🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:22:52 UTC No. 16364614
Is it going to make it down edition!
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Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:24:03 UTC No. 16364619
blushift had a good fire
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:24:35 UTC No. 16364623
please god I hope starliner makes an uncorrectible roll maneuver during reetnry
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:26:22 UTC No. 16364629
>>16364614
OP some constructive criticism if I may:
Good edition
Bad pic
Bad staging on page 9
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:27:02 UTC No. 16364633
>>16364616
5 months ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:27:57 UTC No. 16364636
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:28:23 UTC No. 16364638
>>16364616
LAST WEEK
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:28:56 UTC No. 16364643
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:30:18 UTC No. 16364646
>>16364638
No, they're still waiting to launch from Baikonur. The NASA stream was clear about that.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:30:32 UTC No. 16364647
REJECT THREAD EARLY STAGE We stage at page 10 you fucking retarded newfag
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:31:27 UTC No. 16364651
>>16364647
Is this the type of poster you normally get /sci/?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:32:21 UTC No. 16364654
>>16364651
yes
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:33:39 UTC No. 16364657
>>16364651
/sfg/ is special. We're like 10% of the posts on the entire board, and singularly responsible for the image cap being bumped. New threads posted before the old one sinks to page 10 tend to get hot pocketed. Please use proper thread hygiene while you are here.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:33:42 UTC No. 16364658
>>16364654
That sucks. I'm normally in /bant/smg/. Don't come to /sci/ often, but I saw it needed a new thread.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:36:08 UTC No. 16364662
>>16364658
we stage on page 10
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:36:10 UTC No. 16364663
>>16364658
What the fuck is wrong with you
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:37:05 UTC No. 16364664
>>16364658
>I'm normally in /bant/smg/
Go back.
>>16364660
>Gamergate is now a literal star war as Elon has to deal with these freaks to put us on Mars
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:37:20 UTC No. 16364666
>>16364634
kino
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:37:32 UTC No. 16364667
>>16364636
India is not a serious country
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:38:03 UTC No. 16364668
>>16364663
>>16364664
Do you want to talk about my stock market gains today? It was a good day. Regardless the other thread is almost dead anyway so be happy I baked. For free!
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:40:09 UTC No. 16364674
>>16364668
We don't keep money on the computers 'round here.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:42:14 UTC No. 16364678
>>16364674
muzzle loading with a spacesuit must suck. how do you rip off the paper case with your teeth
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:42:25 UTC No. 16364680
>>16364674
I misread "claim jumpers" as "clam jumpers" and I imagined clam-based Mars landers with robot legs and rocket engines.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:42:31 UTC No. 16364681
which station(s) is in the lead to replace ISS? the nasa-backed ones, not axiom/vast.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:43:25 UTC No. 16364683
>>16364681
axiom
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:43:29 UTC No. 16364684
>>16364681
axiom isn't backed by nasa?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:45:07 UTC No. 16364688
>>16364680
>clam-based Mars landers with robot legs and rocket engines.
Now you have to show us what you have in mind by building it in KSP and posting it here.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:45:48 UTC No. 16364689
>>16364683
>>16364684
axiom is it's own thing
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:47:16 UTC No. 16364690
>>16364689
its backed by nasa too
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:48:19 UTC No. 16364692
>>16364689
what's your definition of nasa-backed then, if axiom doesn't count
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:48:26 UTC No. 16364694
>>16364660
this dude is falling apart, search on twitter rn lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:51:31 UTC No. 16364701
>>16364698
space rat
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:51:50 UTC No. 16364702
>>16364689
>>16364681
Axiom gets funding from NASA. It's the most realistic space station. Starlab also has a high chance and I think it also has NASA funding. Vast is good too but only because it's so simple and is fully funded by one Crypto guy.
After those three I guess you could include the Russian Orbital Station. I think it's at least get its two first modules up. Also I think I read Starlab still wants Russian cooperaiton so that might bump their odds a bit too.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:53:50 UTC No. 16364706
>>16364690
>>16364692
>>16364702
im talking about starlab/orbital reef/nanoracks/northrop stations
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:57:08 UTC No. 16364711
>>16364702
you have orbital reef too with BO and Sierra but if that ever happens, its going to be later than the others
gradatim ferociter (lol)
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:57:37 UTC No. 16364712
I work for boing and NASA is just trying to sabotage us, we have no issues
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:59:17 UTC No. 16364714
>>16364712
I expect Starliner to land without issue yeah, sucks for Butch and Sunni really i guess
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:02:44 UTC No. 16364718
>>16364714
And if it didn't and they were killed the ISS would be retiring early. Artemis delayed 5 to 10 more years. Plus Starship would have less money for development and slow that down. Basically the entire human spaceflight system would be paused.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:05:29 UTC No. 16364721
>>16364706
Starlab/Nanoracks is the same thing and Northrop canceled their Oops! All Cygnus! station proposal so it's now just Starlab vs. Orbital Reefer.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:05:46 UTC No. 16364722
>>16364706
Starlab = Nanoracks = NG
Last time I heard they say they are on track for 2028, so it seems it has a fighting chance to go up before ISS decommision.
Orbital reef will happen, if only because of BO, but god knows when.
Short term only Axiom and Vast are likely to send any hardware up. Axiom is quite far down the road. Vast's plan is simple but we don't know much about the company. My guess is Axiom will launch first but Haven-1 will be the first free floating commercial space station as Axiom's module will still be attached to ISS.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:06:41 UTC No. 16364725
>>16364718
nah, it would all be blamed on boing
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:06:55 UTC No. 16364726
>>16364721
>>16364722
>cant even get a simple space station going
the industry outside of spacex is a joke
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:08:13 UTC No. 16364728
>>16364725
It gets worse because Russia can't operate the space station without US help, so they would also end their space program or very extended pause. Chinese would no longer have any competition slowing them down.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:14:22 UTC No. 16364738
>>16364718
>the ISS would be retiring early
Why? NASA would just by six more Crew Dragon flights to round out the rest of the missions up to Expidition 85 or whatever.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:17:22 UTC No. 16364741
>>16364728
i feel like at this point we need a country to build a space program that is easily accessible by the global community. for example china puts up a core station module and allows commercial and foreign organizations to attach modules to it. spaceflight is too expensive and closed off. an open source approach would help get things done.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:20:49 UTC No. 16364744
>>16364728
Russia could probably operate the station in a limited mode without any help from NASA, since most of the stations' service functions are in the Russian segment. You might not have commutations through TDRS, but issues like that are more inconveniences than show stoppers. China is on a completely isolated track and isn't being effected by any of this.
>>16364741
>for example china
That's a really bad place to start an idea
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:21:47 UTC No. 16364747
>>16364706
>>16364711
Orbital Reef is getting cancelled. At best it might get a module up in 2030.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:22:49 UTC No. 16364749
May Shartliner touch down hard on top of congress that mandated it.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:28:47 UTC No. 16364758
>>16364755
ITS OVER
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:30:15 UTC No. 16364762
>>16364634
space is so cool bros
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:32:20 UTC No. 16364763
>>16364755
I hate how this AI has no clue about specific spacecraft and launch vehicles, this is what I got when I asked it for an Apollo CM/capsule orbiting next to Salyut-3.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:33:58 UTC No. 16364765
>>16364763
you want good results you gotta do it yourself or pay for it
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:41:46 UTC No. 16364773
>>16364763
At least it's vaguely Space. I don't think it understands what a capsule is.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:43:52 UTC No. 16364775
>>16364773
>>16364765
I think this one was trained on a shitzillion movies and tv shows, I wonder if it'd give better results if you fed it all recorded footage of spaceflight next?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:44:24 UTC No. 16364776
>>16364755
>fire really do fall up in space
amazin
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:44:53 UTC No. 16364778
>>16364763
the whole ai experience has taught us that being good at CAD requires way more talent than being good at painting landscapes
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:52:10 UTC No. 16364783
>>16364776
heat rises in a vacuum too
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:52:36 UTC No. 16364784
>>16364778
With art you can be low accuracy but high precision. A landscape is a landscape, and it doesn't need to be correct to be pretty. AI's ability in that area does not diminish the talent of an artist.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:54:25 UTC No. 16364787
>>16364741
>i feel like at this point we need a country to build a space program that is easily accessible by the global community
This is literally the ISS. Every crew launch in history was from either KSC or Baikonur until China put a man up in 2005.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:57:47 UTC No. 16364790
>>16364741
Is this trolling? Are you just uninformed? This approach led to nothing happening for 50 years. Now that the private sector is speeding things up you want to go back to that?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:58:38 UTC No. 16364792
>>16364614
If this blows up on reentry, I would be so happy.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:00:10 UTC No. 16364793
>>16364783
>rises
which way does it go?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:00:40 UTC No. 16364795
>>16364792
the media will somehow blame it on "elon musk's spacex"
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:01:30 UTC No. 16364796
>>16364792
I want total parachute failure so that everybody gets a few minutes of elation after reentry but before it slams into the desert floor.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:01:50 UTC No. 16364797
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:03:11 UTC No. 16364798
>>16364796
I'm pretty sure it'll be fine but this would be the funniest outcome
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:03:47 UTC No. 16364799
>>16364744
>Russia could probably operate the station in a limited mode without any help from NASA, since most of the stations' service functions are in the Russian segment.
I don't think Russia paid anything for the power upgrades NASA did. Roll out solar panels, lithium batteries. Russia already wanted to abandon the space station early. They couldn't afford to maintain it alone.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:04:51 UTC No. 16364800
>>16364796
that would be the best result, yes
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:10:26 UTC No. 16364805
>>16364796
>Safe, simple, stupid, reliable parachutes, guys!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:12:18 UTC No. 16364807
>>16364741
I propose we call it something to welcome global partners from all over the world, something like the International Space Station perhaps?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:16:36 UTC No. 16364809
>>16364807
Nah, that's gay.
How about McSpaceport?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:19:07 UTC No. 16364811
>>16364658
>>16364668
DONT MAKE A THREAD IF YOURE A NEWFAG, this is like the most obvious thing to any person that has used this website for more than 1 day. We have dedicated bakers that literally push threads out of the way to stage for us at page 10 and we dont need newfag early bakes man. This is not /smg/, culture across generals and especially boards is extremely different. You atleast made a good thread I can say that, and generally the /smg/gers I've interacted with are good people.
>>16364647
Not doing that, its an early stage but the OP is atleast good and generally correct. I wouldve done that if he fucked the Previous link like that other thread.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:20:09 UTC No. 16364812
>>16364799
I'm not sure if those power upgrades would be necessary for maintaining the Russian part of the station, especially now with Nauka coming up with new solar panels and batteries. Definitely would be in some kind of power save mode though similar to how MIR operated for a while after the Spektr module (which contributed something like 50% of the power) got bonked by the Progress.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:23:51 UTC No. 16364813
>>16364629
Pic doesnt really matter nearly as much, thats far more subjective than most of the other points. I still wouldnt split threads, I'll just push the other thread to 10 so we can stop bitching about this and get on with the thread.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:32:00 UTC No. 16364826
Escapade delayed until next year
Sorry JEFF
https://blogs.nasa.gov/escapade/202
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:32:45 UTC No. 16364829
>>16364814
MSR is stupid. Instead of having a rover picks up the sample, we should send multiple small landers with the sole task of landing, drilling, collecting, then launching the samples to be picked up by an orbiter that will return to Earth.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:35:29 UTC No. 16364834
>>16364826
wouldn't the transfer window be well closed by then? or is NG just so overpowered for escapade that they're gonna bruteforce some stupid trajectory?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:37:48 UTC No. 16364837
>>16364814
China's Mars sample return is unga bunga simple and will literally just be a sample return from a random location in their landing ellipse (which will be huge, because the lander is planned for a no-orbit direct entry). If they succeed it will be because they didn't do anything more difficult than they've done already. It's designed to be first, and that's it.
>>16364829
Don't look now, but Artemis is going to do the exact same thing on the Moon that they're doing on Mars, except their sample return is going to be the Endurance rover linking up with Artemis III
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:38:23 UTC No. 16364838
>>16364826
Based (308933) 2006 SQ372 poster
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:39:59 UTC No. 16364843
>>16364838
Nobody else posted it
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:40:46 UTC No. 16364844
>>16364829
MRS is stupid because it should have been undertaken at any point before now. MSR was originally slated to be a part of one of the later Mars-Voyager missions in the mid 70s. We've been perpetually replanning this mission for the last half century. Just drop it and start making serious plans for a crewed mission.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:41:37 UTC No. 16364845
>>16364834
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/18321631
Scott Manley says a Venus flyby is possible but will take two years.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:41:56 UTC No. 16364846
>>16364834
>launch mass: 180kg
For a payload that small on a rocket roughly in-between a Falcon 9 and Heavy, I'm not even sure there's really such a thing as a "launch window"
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:43:30 UTC No. 16364849
>>16364837
> Y-you successfully returned the first samples from Mars the wrong way! Abloo bloo!
Guess what goes in the Book of Space Records? Especially since those multibillion MSR samples are never leaving Mars at all.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:44:30 UTC No. 16364850
>>16364837
>China's Mars sample return is unga bunga simple and will literally just be a sample return from a random location in their landing ellipse (which will be huge, because the lander is planned for a no-orbit direct entry). If they succeed it will be because they didn't do anything more difficult than they've done already. It's designed to be first, and that's it.
Still better than the nothing that will come from NASA's autistic insistence on the plan involving separate catch rovers, retrieval rovers, Mars launch vehicles, and Earth return vehicles. Seriously they decided on that model in the 70s and have continuously killed any plan that deviates from it
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:44:44 UTC No. 16364851
>>16364849
Yeah, and it's a shame that that's all they're going for. The whole reason MSR even exists as a decadal survey priority is because NASA can't do an in situ analysis for life
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:48:48 UTC No. 16364854
when will starliner come down? how many bongs remain?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:52:57 UTC No. 16364857
>>16364837
>China's Mars sample return is unga bunga simple and will literally just be a sample return from a random location in their landing ellipse (which will be huge, because the lander is planned for a no-orbit direct entry). If they succeed it will be because they didn't do anything more difficult than they've done already. It's designed to be first, and that's it.
A sample is a sample. If u get btfo by implessive chink engineering that's on u.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 00:55:46 UTC No. 16364861
Drop Earth soil all over Mars before anyone can get a pristine sample.
>noooo the science!
Fuck you I'm gardening
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:05:24 UTC No. 16364868
>>16364861
least intelligent /sfg/ger
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:05:31 UTC No. 16364869
>>16364845
>C3=55km2/s2
Jesus. There's trajectories to Jupiter that come in at only half that energy
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:05:37 UTC No. 16364871
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:08:38 UTC No. 16364874
>>16364871
Why did anon delete this?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:09:14 UTC No. 16364875
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:11:38 UTC No. 16364877
>>16364869
Bottomline: BO fucked up so hard they can't salvage it before the window closes up, and now the two satellites need to take a two year detour.
That should have been the headline.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:13:46 UTC No. 16364879
>>16364850
You know what would be even better? If different countries made the different components. That way it's guaranteed to not work.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:14:04 UTC No. 16364880
>>16364591
>Can Orion be used for just basic LEO stuff
LEO is too hot for its cooling system.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:20:27 UTC No. 16364885
>>16364877
We might be a little more than an hour away from watching an unexpectedly uncrewed Starliner carve out a new crater at White Sands. Some rightwards schedule slippage barely qualifies as fucking up, especially when NASA deliberately placed a pocket change bet on an unfinished rocket. Remember, these little guys were supposed to launch with Psyche back in July 2022.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:23:33 UTC No. 16364889
>>16364846
New Glenn's payload drops off hard the farther you go beyond LEO. Worse than Falcon 9 in fact, which is funny considering Blorg went with hydrogen for the upper stage. Bad mass ratio I guess.
It doesn't have much extra capability on a Mars injection, especially not an inefficient one
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:32:34 UTC No. 16364897
Sar-liner pulls up short due to engine malfunction. Becomes a fireball headed for Downtown Las Vegas. Vandenberg desperately launches ABMs to try and bring it down before it kills thousands.
Gonna be a fun night.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:35:14 UTC No. 16364902
>>16364897
Wouldn't it be more likely to hit the pacific or beanerville considering the planned trajectory?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:37:18 UTC No. 16364905
>>16364902
White Sands is pretty solidly inland, so I wouldn't expect a splashdown unless something fucks up really bad during deorbit burn. When does it burn anyway, or did it do it already and now its just falling towards PE?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:38:07 UTC No. 16364906
>>16364905
I think about another hour.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:39:07 UTC No. 16364908
Oh yeah I'm staying up past my bedtime to watch this one
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:41:11 UTC No. 16364910
>>16364897
where to watch starliner burning up kino?
any livestreams up?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:41:19 UTC No. 16364911
>>16364905
Honestly hoping that it all goes well. I'm just south of white sands, so I'll get a prime view of the saarliner fireball as it comes in. I'll try to get some pics, but no promises because I broke my tripod the other day.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:41:40 UTC No. 16364912
>>16364910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:42:12 UTC No. 16364913
>>16364670
>composites
bad idea, that stuff is implosive
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:42:13 UTC No. 16364914
>>16364912
thank you for spoonfeed anon
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:42:41 UTC No. 16364915
>>16364914
yer whalecum
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:43:01 UTC No. 16364916
>>16364741
Congress has forbidden NASA to do anything with China.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:46:18 UTC No. 16364920
>>16364911
Whatever happens I hope you get a good view of it anon, pics are cool too.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:48:43 UTC No. 16364924
>>16364885
really the only important thing about escapade is demonstrating low-cost interplanetary spacecraft development, but massive schedule slippages like this are the best way to jack up the program cost
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:51:11 UTC No. 16364927
>>16364913
stockton rush was based and I yearn for the day someone applies his philosophy to spacecraft.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:54:25 UTC No. 16364929
>>16364927
Yup he’s only an idiot in hindsight. Yes he should have heeded warnings and signs, but everyone clowns on him and I don’t think it’s fully warranted. You can’t make fun of the spirit of adventure. He’s based.
People like james cameron (known narcissistic asshole) come out swinging with stupid phrases like
>well, erm, everybody knew it was going to fail. I knew it was going to fail. I knew they were dead, actually!
Okay bozo at least he had faith of the heart. Maybe you should have warned him, Mr. Cameron, instead of acting smarter than everyone in the world
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:55:38 UTC No. 16364930
>>16364927
>At some point, safety is just waste
- Stockton Rush
His disregard for safety fell well beyond that point. I'm not saying NASA's strategy is right, but this guy had the same outlook as a gambling addict. Not connecting your controls to what you're controlling? No redundancy? We're talking about a solution that would've cost like $30 and saved 5 lives
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:58:16 UTC No. 16364934
when is shartliner going to explode or disintegrate?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:58:52 UTC No. 16364935
>>16364934
two weeks
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:00:13 UTC No. 16364936
>>16364930
The controls had nothing to do with it. They fucking imploded.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:02:01 UTC No. 16364938
>>16364936
nta but what I think he meant was that it COULD have been just another way it could have gone disastrously wrong. i.e. Titan had more than one critical design flaw aside from just the composite problem that ultimately killed everyone
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:03:14 UTC No. 16364939
>>16364811
You shouldn't have said anything. Now it just begs me to make a new thread again next time. Also your threads are pretty basic. You don't even have any links or anything to carry forward from thread to thread. So strange the reaction also. Like there is something mentally wrong with some of you. It certainly was not an early bake. Unless you only bake when it hits 1000 posts. But 980 seemed good enough to me.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:03:21 UTC No. 16364940
>>16364938
They had some sort of way of dropping their ballast weights by shifting their weight around to rotate the submarine. Not ideal by any means (a fail-safe electromagnet is the correct way of doing it) but it's not accurate to say they were 100% reliant on the game controller.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:03:38 UTC No. 16364941
so is anything going to use the 2024 mars transfer window?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:04:37 UTC No. 16364943
>>16364941
IFT-7
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:05:36 UTC No. 16364944
>>16364938
it had a bunch of design flaws. that's the point. they got away with all but one of them. take those lessons, fix the handful of fatal things, keep the stuff that worked. bada bing bada boom
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:07:26 UTC No. 16364945
>>16364943
god, I wish, they could learn so much and gather lots of data by just sending one single exp*ndable starship not intended to survive reentry. planet contamination folks wouldn't be so happy, though.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:08:00 UTC No. 16364946
>>16364944
I don't know if there's anyone else involved but here's some info. It's been going on for 15 years. I've become acceptant of it. I thought it was part of the problem. Seems like an emergency with all the pain I'm in and how I'm hunted by insects and other people. I got the leed done I think, because I know the tech that is common there like a compass/orb that tells you about people and how hell is made legal in a lower class, middle class, random event thing.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:08:30 UTC No. 16364948
>>16364936
If someone said to me "hey bro want to ride in my private submarine" I would be keen. Then I would see the fucking walmart gamepad and immediately assume that other critical areas had been overlooked, cheaped out on or not assembled properly (spoiler alert: they had) and not go within a mile of the thing. The whole thing was Darwinism in action.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:09:14 UTC No. 16364950
>>16364946
I succeeded yesterday/ day before, as well, but I guess it was blocked.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:14:08 UTC No. 16364958
>>16364948
>anon gets invited onto a private submarine
>"whoa, it's actually like a legit submarine"
>gets murdered by a psychopathic necrophile
Say what you want about Stockton Rush, but it's not like he tried to rape anybody's corpse.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:15:13 UTC No. 16364959
>>16364958
And to bring it full circle, wasn’t that psycho also a founder of copenhagen suborbital??
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:18:26 UTC No. 16364961
>>16364959
Yes, one of the two founders.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:18:42 UTC No. 16364962
>>16364958
Yeah just avoid submarines I guess.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:20:02 UTC No. 16364963
>>16364962
Can confirm, submariners are weird even in the navy.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:20:10 UTC No. 16364964
>>16364958
he only murdered a woman
anon will never be a woman and is unlikely to be submarine rape murdered
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:20:29 UTC No. 16364965
>>16364962
what is a spacecraft if not a submarine in the sky?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:21:13 UTC No. 16364968
>>16364965
a submarine has high pressure on the outside
a spacecraft has high pressure on the inside
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:22:04 UTC No. 16364970
>>16364958
>>16364962
In hindsight, the submarine being named Nautilus was a red flag. Also I think it's probably only a matter of time before this scenario plays out in space.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:24:36 UTC No. 16364975
>>16364964
he'll have to settle for being crushed to death in a composite pressure vessel implosion
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:24:37 UTC No. 16364976
>>16364971
That's crazy!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:25:33 UTC No. 16364980
>>16364971
BO had it worse. Their VAB's entire door was blown off.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:26:13 UTC No. 16364984
>>16364976
yeah
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:26:31 UTC No. 16364985
>>16364965
>>16364968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4R
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:28:38 UTC No. 16364988
>>16364965
One kills you instantly because of the tiniest containment flaw, the other one you have time to patch a leak and it's actually pretty easy, can fix that bitch with duct tape. Granted, there are still plenty of ways to eat it in space.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:29:49 UTC No. 16364991
it's not that easy in submarinery
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:31:37 UTC No. 16364993
>>16364968
spacecraft only have mid pressure on the inside, just one atmosphere, possibly less,
but a submarine can have thousands of atmospheres on the outside, one flaw and you instantly become red mush
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:31:44 UTC No. 16364994
>>16364991
Germans figured it out 70 years ago pretty well.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:33:53 UTC No. 16364998
>>16364889
There are no published Isp figures for the BE-3U. It's probably goat ass by hydrolox standards, barely 400s Isp, or else the stage just has way too low a mass ratio.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:38:54 UTC No. 16365009
IFT 5 bros... Whats taking so long?...
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:39:09 UTC No. 16365010
>>16364968
As far as pressure goes, space is way easier than the ocean. That's what I always say to the inevitable dumbass comparison normalfags make when you talk about space colonization (I know it has happened to everyone here)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:40:21 UTC No. 16365012
>>16364698
Hopefully just another flying saucer, in the worst case it was a piece of the space station.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:40:21 UTC No. 16365013
>>16365009
Not that easy in testification
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:40:51 UTC No. 16365014
>>16364889
>>16364998
It's because the stage has a low TWR and the booster doesn't get it very close to orbit. Add more payload mass and the stage has to fight increased gravity losses.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:41:02 UTC No. 16365016
>>16365009
The FAA are being faggots.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:42:03 UTC No. 16365019
>>16365009
sabotage
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:42:16 UTC No. 16365020
>>16364994
germans figured everything out 70 years ago. see also: rockets
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:42:23 UTC No. 16365021
Wen boeing explosion, it's doing entry around now right
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:42:30 UTC No. 16365022
>>16365009
Eric Roesch (who's address I have found) got the media to cry about an environmental technicality which amounted to a $3500 fine but which compelled a completely unrelated federal agency to grind everything to a screeching halt
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:43:00 UTC No. 16365023
>>16365009
Lawfare by regime aligned groups. Be sure to vote appropriately if we're actually given the chance
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:45:37 UTC No. 16365026
If they recover the booster on flight five do you think they'll already reuse it for flight six?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:47:31 UTC No. 16365028
>>16365009
There's someone you forgot to ask
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:47:36 UTC No. 16365029
>>16365026
no
no reason to, fly newer ones with upgrades
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:48:05 UTC No. 16365030
>with landing scheduled for 12:03 a.m. EDT (0403 UTC) on Saturday, Sept. 7
f that, not gonna see shit anyways
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:48:35 UTC No. 16365032
>>16365026
I doubt it. How long was it before they tried the first reused F9 booster?
Just be happy for the catch, if they do that.
Also fuck that EDS asshole stirring up federal agency fire ant nests.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:49:08 UTC No. 16365033
>>16365026
I doubt it.
The data they can gain from tearing it apart and inspecting each piece is worth more than what they could save by reusing it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:50:01 UTC No. 16365034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0
come and watch starliner crash
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:50:11 UTC No. 16365036
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:52:54 UTC No. 16365039
12.1 million watching the NASA live stream at the moment. How's that compare to NASCAR?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:53:47 UTC No. 16365040
>>16365039
that's the subscriber count, Einstein
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:55:14 UTC No. 16365041
>>16365039
To be fair people tune into NASCAR to see crashes too
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:58:40 UTC No. 16365045
>1 of the 12 RCS thrusters already failed
Oh no no no
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:59:39 UTC No. 16365047
>>16365045
the thrusters aren't really needed now right
they've already done their job
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:00:45 UTC No. 16365050
>>16365047
Those are needed for orientation control after the SM is detached.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:00:53 UTC No. 16365051
>>16365047
Idk anon, they said it was 1 of the 12 on the crew module
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:01:46 UTC No. 16365054
>>16364948
>they didn't fully bolt on the submersible's cap because some of the bolt holes were hard to reach
that's what redundancy is for, so you can ignore it
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:03:09 UTC No. 16365056
>>16365054
this but unironically
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:03:29 UTC No. 16365057
>>16365053
Thank you, Bill.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:03:37 UTC No. 16365058
>>16365053
I was thinking that too.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:03:50 UTC No. 16365059
>>16365054
but they didn't have redundancy
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:05:08 UTC No. 16365061
1/12
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:06:46 UTC No. 16365063
>shartliner can't send any video feed except when connected to ISS
whew
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:09:04 UTC No. 16365067
>>16364998
Bezos said 445s in the Estronaut interview. Which is in line with what the LE-5B gets as well, so no reason to think he was lying
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:09:25 UTC No. 16365068
> Eric Berger - This evening, during tests of the Starliner crew module's 12 RCS thrusters (these are different from the thrusters on the service module), one of them failed. A single failure does not pose a threat during reentry.
How about if another fails?
> No comment! Remove that man!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:10:31 UTC No. 16365070
>12 starship launches per year
cryingbettlejack.png
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:10:53 UTC No. 16365071
>>16365067
Mass ratio and early staging then. Hydrologgs needs either 3STO or a giant sustainer core to work right.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:11:07 UTC No. 16365072
>>16365065
Nevermind they have thermal cameras
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:11:34 UTC No. 16365073
>>16365070
sorry chud ESG hound said no to that
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:12:19 UTC No. 16365074
Can't believe they're still using the Launch America branding
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:12:32 UTC No. 16365075
> Boeing Space - The #Starliner deorbit poll is complete. The spacecraft is "go" for landing. The landing phase will take ~44 minutes from deorbit burn to landing.
"Landing". LOL! Sure thing.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:12:43 UTC No. 16365076
>>16365050
If it doesn't orient right we'll get a funny lightshow
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:12:47 UTC No. 16365077
>>16365070
Can somebody please think of the piping plover??
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:14:37 UTC No. 16365078
>inb4 it lands without any issue
nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:16:46 UTC No. 16365081
>>16365078
>boeing is so untrustworthy that NASA doesn't believe them when they even correctly say there is no issue
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:16:47 UTC No. 16365082
>"We'll start hearing those Mordors err motors"
NASA stream just leaked that the SpaceX lightning welder meme is cannon.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:17:15 UTC No. 16365083
>>16365080
>shitliner lands on some beaner gang banger
wtf I love boing now
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:17:49 UTC No. 16365085
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:19:24 UTC No. 16365089
>>16365081
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:19:30 UTC No. 16365090
> Gene J. Mikulka - #NASA #Boeing #Starliner - Recovery teams have completed their safety briefing and are getting ready for thier duties, two minutes from the Deorbit Burn. OMAC 1500lb Thrusters due to fire at 11:17 PM
Ghost Riders in the sky.......
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:19:43 UTC No. 16365092
it's working fine.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:20:54 UTC No. 16365093
>>16365080
NASA knows its going to explode on reentry, thats why they chose a path thats over empty open ocean where there will be no witnesses. They're going to drop a replacement shartliner out of a 747 off the coast of Mexico and claim that its the real one.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:21:06 UTC No. 16365094
>no issues
wow what a nothingburger
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:21:29 UTC No. 16365095
There goes the service module
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:22:03 UTC No. 16365096
>>16365088
> Lennart Koopmann - Watching the NASA Starliner landing stream and I see Windows 8 (?), Edge, a JVM, a terminal and a dozen … Red Hat? [Laughing emoji]
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:22:25 UTC No. 16365098
If this piece of shit makes it back ok then it just proves space is easy
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:23:01 UTC No. 16365099
>turns out starliner was safe all along and sfg was wrong
boeingbros, we won
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:23:06 UTC No. 16365100
>>16365094
no issues yet
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:24:42 UTC No. 16365102
>>16365094
Two different sets of control thrusters on two independent section of Starliner have now failed in flight. Again.
Nothing burger.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:25:08 UTC No. 16365104
Come on burn up already
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:25:12 UTC No. 16365105
>>16365102
didn't need 'em
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:25:44 UTC No. 16365106
>>16365102
did the capsule explode? no? oh, okay then.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:26:13 UTC No. 16365108
>communications blackout
Starship does not have these problems
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:27:10 UTC No. 16365109
>>16365106
Acceptable attitude toward cargo, but not toward crew.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:27:11 UTC No. 16365110
>>16365108
Boing should put a Kuiper terminal on starliner
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:27:13 UTC No. 16365111
>>16365106
Sir it hasn't even begun entry yet, cease the victory lap
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:27:15 UTC No. 16365112
>>16365108
Boing! didn't want to pay for Starlink.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:28:19 UTC No. 16365113
>>16364641
Someone reply to this if it blows up. I need to sleep
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:28:40 UTC No. 16365115
Get immersed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:29:03 UTC No. 16365117
>>16365111
We watched something reenter just a couple months ago, even if the plasma burns through it's fine
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:29:18 UTC No. 16365118
>>16365108
Is it just the sheer size of Starship that allowed for uplink through reentry, or would Starlink enable a capsule like Starliner to stream video continuously through reentry?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:30:37 UTC No. 16365120
>>16365117
>something
does starliner have an ounce of steel in its aerostructure?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:30:43 UTC No. 16365121
>>16365117
This.
A quick buff and some fresh tiles and she'll be right as rain.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:30:44 UTC No. 16365122
>>16365117
>On Saturday, February 1, 2003, Space Shuttle Columbia disintegrated as it reentered the atmosphere over Texas and Louisiana, killing all seven astronauts on board.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:31:48 UTC No. 16365123
>>16365096
>Windows 8 (?)
That is Windows 11.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:31:54 UTC No. 16365124
>>16365109
it's almost the same thing, the point still stands
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:32:28 UTC No. 16365125
>>16365118
From what I understand it's the size of the thing that makes a hole in the Plasma wake for starlink to talk to, you could even kind of see it on stream. Tiny capsules don't do that so it wouldn't work.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:33:11 UTC No. 16365126
>>16365099
We won't know if it was safe for a month until NASA publishes the inevitable post mortem of problems.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:33:45 UTC No. 16365127
>>16365124
Based kerbal enthusiast
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:34:53 UTC No. 16365129
>>16364614
Why didn’t they bring the astronauts back
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:35:05 UTC No. 16365131
>>16365123
>That is Windows 11.
Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:35:37 UTC No. 16365132
>>16365123
>>16365131
no its not
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:36:09 UTC No. 16365133
>>16365129
It didn't pass the human rated safety review because of the thrusters overheating due to teflon seals gong bad.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:36:15 UTC No. 16365134
>>16365125
That's what I thought too, something like Starliner/Dragon/Soyuz gets fully enveloped by a plasma sheath, right? Starship plowed through and is too big to be fully enveloped, leaving a corridor behind it for a signal to get through.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:36:22 UTC No. 16365135
>>16365124
Almost only counts either in horseshoes or with hand grenades.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:36:25 UTC No. 16365136
>>16365113
FUCK THRUSTER JUST EXPLODED
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:36:54 UTC No. 16365138
>>16365123
A different nerd's take:
> Rafael Rivera - Double-high Windows 10 taskbar from NASA (Starliner re-entry/landing feed). X11 forwarded UI, File Explorer, "Duke" (Java) app, WSH-based app, Edge, Notepad++, cmd, ???, and more forwarded UI. But the "recycle bin in taskbar" hack using toolbars is the hero here
Don't think he's watching this with his girlfriend.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:37:03 UTC No. 16365139
>black sands
oops
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:37:09 UTC No. 16365141
>>16365131
Calm down, Moss. All of the mission-critical software is running on GNU/Linux.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:37:18 UTC No. 16365142
>>16365129
There were a bunch of helium leaks in the propulsion system and they weren't sure the capsule wouldn't do the Indian RCS Shimmy and and enter the atmosphere on the wrong trajectory, causing the astronauts to burn up, or just fail to reenter at all, stranding them to die in LEO unless SpaceX could hack up a Dragon to Starliner docking adapter and rush a NASA crew launch before they died. There were no guarantees this was going to work.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:37:21 UTC No. 16365143
>>16365137
thank you sbarky, very cute
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:37:58 UTC No. 16365144
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:38:16 UTC No. 16365145
>>16365142
helium leeks are a separate issue from the thrusters overheating
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:38:35 UTC No. 16365147
>>16365142
what are the estimate failure chances?
meme and non meme %
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:38:36 UTC No. 16365148
>>16365141
>All of the mission-critical software is running on GNU/Linux.
Did u miss the accidental photos of the saarliner control tablets running Windows after boing told them not to take photos of tablets? Kek
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:39:21 UTC No. 16365151
>>16365138
There is a popular explorer patcher that turns the windows 11 taskbar into one more like windows 10. That said it certainly is not windows 8.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:39:34 UTC No. 16365152
>>16365096
>and a dozen … Red Hat?
That's either W10 with RHEL in WSL or it's some branded RDP/VNC/X11 connection.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:39:40 UTC No. 16365153
>>16365147
>meme and non meme %
50/50
1/70
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:40:05 UTC No. 16365154
>>16365147
>meme and non meme %
99% and I dunno lol
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:41:26 UTC No. 16365156
>>16365153
>1/70
holy shit is this an official figure? thats a fucking embarrassment
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:41:51 UTC No. 16365157
Could we please stop panning the IR camera around to show everyone all the nothing that's happening.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:44:10 UTC No. 16365161
>>16365141
I wonder if NASA has their own spin of a real time Linux.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:45:06 UTC No. 16365162
>>16365156
Not sure there's an official figure since they couldn't get a good enough look inside while it was in space. That sort of analysis just isn't possible. The uncertainty is why there's no people on it. Could be 1/270, could be 1/10, they didn't and couldn't know.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:45:13 UTC No. 16365163
A STARLINER JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:45:38 UTC No. 16365164
>>16365163
mexican OUT
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:45:58 UTC No. 16365165
>>16365105
> While it has been moving away, the flight controllers here on the ground took the opportunity to perform a few tests of Starliner's thrusters. During the test of the Crew Module's twelve small reaction control system thrusters, one of the jets didn't fire when commanded. The reaction control system thrusters on the Crew Module are used to steer Starliner as it makes its way back down to Earth after the Service Module has been jettisoned. Because those twelve jets are divided into two redundant strings of six, Starliner only uses one string during normal operation, so although this means a slight loss of redundancy, it shouldn't keep Starliner from getting through reentry and landing as expected.
So, if a second thruster would have failed on the other string -- loss of vehicle.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:46:44 UTC No. 16365166
>starliner has entered the atmosphere
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:46:44 UTC No. 16365167
>>16365161
Probably more than one. Wasn't ingenuity running on Linux?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:46:50 UTC No. 16365168
>"We're not sure how, but the Starliner return somehow knocked the Earth out of its orbit and it's now spiraling rapidly into the Sun."
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:47:26 UTC No. 16365169
>>16365161
>>16365167
They have their own custom operating system.
https://github.com/nasa/fprime
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:47:31 UTC No. 16365170
is this the part where it turns into a stupid monster movie like Sunshine
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:48:35 UTC No. 16365173
if we're not in the blackout show us the telemetry boing!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:48:47 UTC No. 16365174
WOW A PARKING LOT
THANKS, NASA
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:50:49 UTC No. 16365176
>>16365175
Most inspiring modern NASA media
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:50:56 UTC No. 16365177
>>16365175
inb4 something catastrophically wrong and they're sandbagging with this
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:51:10 UTC No. 16365178
Can't have anything possibly go wrong for investors so they won't even show telemetry.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:51:40 UTC No. 16365179
LIVE VIEW FROM ISS NO WAY
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:52:05 UTC No. 16365181
WOOOOOW
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:52:15 UTC No. 16365182
>>16365141
That's on SpaceX.
>>16365148
uh oh
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:52:26 UTC No. 16365183
Imagine it asplodes on the live view
Kino
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:52:30 UTC No. 16365184
only 5 more starliner launches ever right. because atlas
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:53:23 UTC No. 16365186
>>16365184
The ISS won't be around long enough for 5 and sharty will never be cheap enough for private flight ventures.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:53:48 UTC No. 16365187
>>16365184
ISS won't last till then lol
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:54:08 UTC No. 16365188
>>16365161
>>16365148
Mars Observer failed due to an uncaught java exception
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:54:30 UTC No. 16365189
>>16365186
>>16365187
what are they going to do with the leftover atlases?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:55:00 UTC No. 16365191
>>16365188
classic jeetscript L
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:56:33 UTC No. 16365192
imagine the Berger article he had pre-written for failure we'll never read.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:56:43 UTC No. 16365193
>>16365180
>due to a clerical error, they put the two astronauts on board by accident
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:57:10 UTC No. 16365194
IT EXPLODED
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:57:12 UTC No. 16365195
KINO KINO KINO
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:57:34 UTC No. 16365198
just heard the sonic boom in NM
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:57:41 UTC No. 16365199
>>16365189
Kuiper lol
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:58:31 UTC No. 16365200
Aww I wanted it to explode.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:58:43 UTC No. 16365201
>>16365198
starliner literally just flew over your house?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:58:58 UTC No. 16365203
IT'S OVER
(For NASA)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:59:04 UTC No. 16365204
>>16365201
actually, yes
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:59:10 UTC No. 16365205
>>16365194
I wished
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:59:35 UTC No. 16365206
Heatshield away. I can see the airbags.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:59:50 UTC No. 16365209
Okay this is kino, I will admit it
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:59:57 UTC No. 16365210
Boeing did it... they won...
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:00:22 UTC No. 16365211
>starliner lands
>butch and suni emerge
>claim to have no knowledge of there ever being a change of plan
>???
>then who is on the ISS?
>check ISS comms
>unintelligible screaming
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:00:25 UTC No. 16365212
>>16365209
the infrared view is prety neat I grant
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:00:48 UTC No. 16365213
>>16365210
It’s over… we lost
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:01:02 UTC No. 16365214
APOLOGIZE
APOLOGIZE TO BOEING RIGHT NOW.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:01:10 UTC No. 16365215
the thing that sucks most about starliner is not that it sucks, it's that it doesn't suck enough. being bad enough they didn't bring crew back on it was funny, but then it made it with only non critical issues.
full functionality on time, or big explosions I say
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:01:15 UTC No. 16365217
Very cool camerawork throughout
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:01:45 UTC No. 16365220
Elon is live on X.
He's dissolving SpaceX....
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:02:03 UTC No. 16365223
TOUCHDOWN
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:02:15 UTC No. 16365224
NO MORE TEST FLIGHTS NEEDED
next startliner flight is a crew mission
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:02:22 UTC No. 16365226
>>16365216
A lot better than they'd be in visible light this time of night that's for sure.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:02:25 UTC No. 16365227
Boing!
I kneel
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:02:47 UTC No. 16365228
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:03:05 UTC No. 16365229
the biggest losers in all of this are the two people bumped from the next Spacex crew launch
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:03:10 UTC No. 16365230
>>16365214
They're still going to have to completely redesign the thrusters on the service module
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:03:16 UTC No. 16365231
>>16365215
It will have a series of problems assessed in the after action report that add further delays, it will get to fly again with people but with Boing's speed they won't get many missions before ISS deorbit.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:03:25 UTC No. 16365233
Somehow, Starliner returned.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:03:31 UTC No. 16365234
>>16365214
Second independent set of thrusters on the Command Module failed immediately upon first use. Starliner will never fly again because Boeing won't pay to fix the problems.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:03:32 UTC No. 16365235
APOLOGISE
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:03:35 UTC No. 16365236
We did it Broes
It's over for the MUSKRAT
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:04:57 UTC No. 16365237
>Didn't explode
>Didn't get stuck in a retrograde orbit
>Safely landed
>two astronauts are now LITERALLY stuck in space for nine months
Kneel, Muskrats. If Elon hadn't meddled in this process, Suni and Butch would be home right this minute.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:05:54 UTC No. 16365238
>>16365237
they would be in new mexico. arguably worse than being stuck in space.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:06:17 UTC No. 16365239
>Boeing won
>SpaceX dissolved
I am very happy right now
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:07:45 UTC No. 16365241
>>16365238
This, New Mexico is not fully terraformed.
NM residents, cope.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:08:47 UTC No. 16365242
>>16365240
nice long orange streak
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:09:23 UTC No. 16365243
>>16365211
Ah that's just Ramirez.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:10:20 UTC No. 16365245
>proven herself to be a safe ride home
shut the fuck up lmfao
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:11:27 UTC No. 16365247
>>16365239
The adults are now in charge we won't let a narcissistic egomaniac billionaire pollute our skys with his space junk and little escape plan to fly to mars after polluting the world with his o-zone destroying tin cans!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:12:54 UTC No. 16365251
>WE ARE INEVITABLE
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:12:59 UTC No. 16365252
Very unfortunate. A win for Boeing is a loss for mankind.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:14:11 UTC No. 16365254
yeah, this is now /sfg/- /starliner's fans general/
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:14:14 UTC No. 16365255
unmodellable throoster gremlins i kneel..
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:14:30 UTC No. 16365257
So it seems the grift will continue
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:15:32 UTC No. 16365258
>>16365257
They will surely have to redesign and test out a new thruster doghouse.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:15:36 UTC No. 16365259
Did someone post the thread to /g/ again or is this one guy being funny
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:15:59 UTC No. 16365260
I wanted it to blow up for the keks :(
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:16:33 UTC No. 16365261
>Here's how Starliner can still explode
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:17:30 UTC No. 16365262
>>16365261
Arm a bomb onboard and then set it off. Why Boing would do this? Dont ask me
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:17:40 UTC No. 16365263
>>16365261
I am currently driving to white sands, pipe bomb in hand
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:18:13 UTC No. 16365264
>>16365259
/pol/ stopping by to troll. Their mission is to ruin every board just like they ruined their lives.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:21:11 UTC No. 16365268
>>16365266
Good morning saar.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:22:54 UTC No. 16365272
>>16365266
no I don't think I will
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:22:59 UTC No. 16365274
>>16365258
Aren't they in a lawsuit with the company that made the original one? Or was that something before? At least the teflon issue is an easy fix
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:26:15 UTC No. 16365278
>>16365271
This was the part that actually had me the most worried. NASA and Boeing have had a lot of time to chew over the thruster problems and brainstorm solutions. If there was an issue with the chutes no one would know about it until you popped the cover to deploy them.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:26:35 UTC No. 16365280
>>16365275
cringe political compass meme
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:27:47 UTC No. 16365283
>>16365281
Happens to the best too, Anon. Good try.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:27:49 UTC No. 16365284
>>16365274
There was a lawsuit between Aerojet and the subsubcontractor they outsourced their valve work to, but I think that got settled a while back.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:28:17 UTC No. 16365286
>>16365188
Should've written it in Rust
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:28:18 UTC No. 16365287
>>16365281
And of course by the time I could fix it (about 3 seconds) the fireball was gone, leaving only the trail
Anyway it was cool seeing it (with my eyes) and hearing the sonic booms.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:28:31 UTC No. 16365288
>>16365281
Just say you were going for a stylized, more abstract shot (it is really cool you saw it though, I'm jealous)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:29:26 UTC No. 16365290
>>16365275
No way??? That has never happened before!!!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:29:44 UTC No. 16365292
>>16365286
NASA only allows certain languages and Rust isn't one of them
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:30:50 UTC No. 16365293
>>16365290
space shuttle was just a large capsule attached to a giant cargo trunk
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:31:33 UTC No. 16365296
>>16365293
and wings, don't forget that it has wings
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:32:09 UTC No. 16365297
>>16365296
It didn't need them if not for DoD autism
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:32:47 UTC No. 16365298
>>16365293
That's not the worst analogy
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:33:23 UTC No. 16365300
>>16365297
it already flew like a brick. I struggle to imagine it landing in the timeline where it had the tiny as designed wings
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:34:50 UTC No. 16365303
>>16365298
>starliner
>orion
>ppts
>dreamchaser
>no buran
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:35:33 UTC No. 16365304
>>16365303
It never flew comrade. Let it go
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:35:41 UTC No. 16365305
>>16365303
Rightfully so. During its only flight it didn't even have life support systems installed.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:35:59 UTC No. 16365306
>>16365253
gayest city in arizona
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:36:40 UTC No. 16365308
BOEING WON GET OVER IT FAGGOTS
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:37:01 UTC No. 16365310
>>16365305
as opposed to orel and dreamchaser which...
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:37:57 UTC No. 16365311
>>16365310
and orion...
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:45:03 UTC No. 16365317
>>16365316
Good for him, but I don't think I'm going to be able to resist the urge to call him Diet Tate
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:45:35 UTC No. 16365319
>landed safely
nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:46:36 UTC No. 16365320
>>16365253
Starliner is finished when the HOA Karens learn of this
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:47:36 UTC No. 16365321
>>16365316
go back to the sharty offtopic soijak faggot ur not welcome here.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 04:54:28 UTC No. 16365327
>>16365266
I'm sorry you're gay.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 05:04:25 UTC No. 16365330
>>16365321
meds now
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 05:23:57 UTC No. 16365344
Uh bros this is a SHITLOAD of ejected FOD. Like way too fucking much. One of the primary risks associated with parachute deployment systems is liberated ejecta smashing into the canopy (be it main or drogue) and tearing a hole clean through it. There is just no fucking way this much liberated material from the backshell, of any type or timeline, is intentional or controlled.
There's a non-insignificant chance that the huge amounts of yellowing we saw of Starliner's exterior was in fact UV degradation of the materials (especially of the adhesives typically used to retain backshell components) and could have weakened them due to the extended stay on ISS. Compare Dragon, which looks basically just as pearly white when it undocks after six months as it does when it arrives, and you can get a sense of just how much of a beating the materials took.
It suggests to me that Boeing never intended Starliner to stay in orbit as long as it did, and knew that their materials would essentially microcrack until they crumbled if they were up there for that long. Of course, this is not something that would have concerned NASA when they decided to keep the crew on orbit, since really the only failure mode associated with that risk would be shredded chutes and ISS would be completely fine. However, it may very well have played into their decision making to keep them in orbit, in addition to the thruster chicanery.
>t. materials guy who knows certain things
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 05:31:30 UTC No. 16365347
>>16365344
I did actually think the capsule was breaking up for a second. That was a huge plume.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 05:32:44 UTC No. 16365348
post flight presser time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IN
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 05:43:22 UTC No. 16365354
Berger question time!
>Boeing didn't show up for some reason
lol lmao
>it's been a decade since CCrew - has the experiment worked and what's the future of commercial space?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 05:43:52 UTC No. 16365356
oh shit Dreamchaser is confirmed going to the ISS next year
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:18:07 UTC No. 16365374
>>16365344
Cool cope, MuskRat.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:24:17 UTC No. 16365378
Nobody cares anymore. Back to deadness and twomoreweeksposting
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:27:21 UTC No. 16365380
>>16365348
So their ideal solution to the thrusters is WONTFIX don't use them too much.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:28:34 UTC No. 16365382
>>16365366
>drops mic
>ghosts NASA
>refuses to elaborate
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:35:19 UTC No. 16365388
>>16365265
It actually doesn't look that fast.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:39:01 UTC No. 16365389
>>16364658
this is exactly why we should always automatically reject threads made before page 10
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:40:02 UTC No. 16365390
>>16364634
nice
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:42:09 UTC No. 16365396
>>16365380
It's literally not worth it for the remaining lifetime of the ISS.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:42:43 UTC No. 16365397
chances of polaris dawn launching this week?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:44:38 UTC No. 16365399
God, could you guys imagine the fucking catastrophe that would occur if something happened during Dragon 2's return trip with Suni and Butch?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:45:44 UTC No. 16365404
>>16365374
There is objectively way more FOD this time on drogue deploy than on the footage from OFT-2. Regardless of what vehicle you're seeing, this kind of thing is immediately concerning to those of us in the know about what we're looking at. I'll bet the recovery system engineers are shitting their pants right about now. They definitely have some root cause work to go do.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:46:51 UTC No. 16365405
>>16364614
i just woke up! i am so excited to watch the polaris dawn mission today!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:47:45 UTC No. 16365406
>>16365399
Good thing it never will.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:49:37 UTC No. 16365407
>>16365404
Hypothesis: cheap ass piece of shit coatings and such got blasted by radiation and turned into the space ship version of apple crumble
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:49:49 UTC No. 16365408
The identity of the other suspected alt, @ermnmusk, was confirmed by court exhibits seen by HuffPost, which first reported on the deposition.
That revelation was just one of many striking moments in a bizarre and heated two-hour questioning session, which often saw the opposing lawyers talking or shouting over each other.
The deposition comes as Mr Musk is being sued over a series of tweets from last June in which he boosted false claims that a 22-year-old Jewish man named Ben Brody had participated in a neo-Nazi rally as an undercover agent provocateur.
Mr Brody has sued the billionaire businessman seeking damages for the wave of harassment and threats that he suffered in the aftermath of Mr Musk's tweets. Mr Musk's lawyers meamwhile contend that his conduct did not constitute libel.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:50:43 UTC No. 16365410
>>16365405
We have Polaris Dawn at home
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:54:40 UTC No. 16365416
>>16365404
You only saw that shit because it was in infrared. In normal visible light you wouldn't see anything out of the ordinary. Don't exaggerate.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:55:52 UTC No. 16365419
>>16365408
spaceflight?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:55:59 UTC No. 16365420
>>16365410
When will Starliner carry private, commercial passengers? And who is daft enough to choose it over Dragon
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:58:10 UTC No. 16365422
>>16364939
Link spam is gay
Dont stage if you dont know how it works
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 06:59:56 UTC No. 16365426
www.flickr.com/photos/nasawebbteles
Did Webb’s look at early galaxies really break cosmology? (Spoiler alert: nope!)
The issue? How to explain unexpectedly bright early galaxies. If these galaxies were bright because rapid star formation was making them more massive than they should be, then maybe something was wrong with the standard model of cosmology. New research shows that some of those early galaxies are actually much less massive than they appeared. Much of the light from these galaxies likely comes not from stars, but from hot disks of matter surrounding their central black holes.
When the supermassive black holes at the center of galaxies rapidly consume the gas that orbits them, friction in the fast-moving gas emits light and heat. As a result the galaxies look much brighter than if the light were just emanating from stars alone. When these outlier galaxies were removed from the data analysis, the remaining galaxies fit the model predictions. Crisis averted!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 07:23:31 UTC No. 16365450
>>16364811
>dedicated bakers that literally push threads out of the way to stage for us at page 10
That's retarded autism and defeats the purpose of waiting till page 10
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 07:27:10 UTC No. 16365453
>>16365450
Better than thread splitting or early stage shitty threads or off topic stages that get the whole thread deleted (like what happened with two threads ago)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 07:34:25 UTC No. 16365460
>>16365453
You're so cucked by the jannies it makes ones head spin.
The entire fussy thread-baking protocol is entirely out of fear of the jannies
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 07:52:15 UTC No. 16365479
>>16365462
Thrusters were redundant enough (and probably pulsed enough) to back the capsule off from the station and maintain attitude control long enough for the re-entry burn to finish. If the pulses were enough to overcome the doghouse overheating they may just do that from now on without any redesign because it is way too late in the program's life to do it
That's a long way from "fine," but it kept the whole thing from being a complete disaster for Boeing
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:04:01 UTC No. 16365489
>>16365397
Extremely poor, the forecast is worsening. The main problem is this frontal boundary draped over FL that won't fuck off in addition to it being the peak of the hurricane season. Even without any actual storms at the moment a disturbance can become a hurricane in 5 days.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:13:51 UTC No. 16365492
>>16365462
retard. scott manlet from troon, scottland
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:16:38 UTC No. 16365493
>>16365462
I mean, caution is justified
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:18:15 UTC No. 16365494
>>16365460
yes but it also keeps the discussion on topic and in one thread and newfags out
works pretty well
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:20:59 UTC No. 16365497
>>16365494
I mean if you want to start some war about spamming and making off topic threads on /sci/ go ahead
but that would be retarded and you are mainly getting pissy because people are telling you to fuck off
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:23:36 UTC No. 16365499
>>16364670
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18321
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:24:37 UTC No. 16365500
>>16365499
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18322
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:24:47 UTC No. 16365501
>>16365493
Visors down and locked they could have made it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:59:42 UTC No. 16365512
>>16365499
that submarine was in the right for using this supermaterial
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:00:31 UTC No. 16365513
>>16365499
>>16365500
steel is great until giant flying I-beams start coming your way
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:03:15 UTC No. 16365514
>>16364971
You're not a real space center until you’ve been rocked by a hurricane or two. It’s a tradition I suppose
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:09:44 UTC No. 16365517
>>16365500
>game-changer
Okay hold your horses there Elon: even I am an autistic word hyphenator, but this is incorrect. You only hyphenate words that vibe together
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:13:38 UTC No. 16365519
you're not a real space center until you have clouds forming inside
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:19:53 UTC No. 16365524
you're not a real space center until you have made it to the bottom of the wikipedia List of spaceflight-related accidents and incidents page for workers passing away in strange ways
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:22:53 UTC No. 16365528
>>16365521
MSNBC is legitimately neurotic, they can’t even report their own legal last names without lying
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:26:15 UTC No. 16365529
>>16365527
I would not be opposed to some sort of X kill aquad who go around the globe extra-judiciously confiscating their own equipment back and just taking out people who get in the way. They can operate under Martial (heh get it Mars) Law
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:28:14 UTC No. 16365533
>OIG report about contracted EVA suits coming
this'll be good
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:30:43 UTC No. 16365536
>>16365499
>chudlon admitting spacex cuts cost by compromising on materials
Lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:30:44 UTC No. 16365537
>>16365493
You can hate the Shuttle program all you want but Columbia was such a cool and historic orbiter and it’s super shitty that she had to go out this way.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:31:46 UTC No. 16365541
>>16365118
size, plus the fact that there are Starlink satellites available in that direction
I don't think the plasma hole lets you talk to the ground directly
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:32:34 UTC No. 16365542
>>16365527
>confiscation of Starlink equipment
so this was all just a thinly veiled attempt to reverse engineer their tech, presumably handing it over to another company?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:34:56 UTC No. 16365547
>>16365542
Think about it, if 5 other companies finish "spontaneously developing" a Starlink competitor, that weakens their market position and ensures they're still reliant on government funding for decades to come.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:37:20 UTC No. 16365549
>>16365542
>confiscation of Starlink equipment
Where the fuck is the US State dept in all of this? Blinken is worthless and an absolute cuck so he should be good for going down there and sucking Lula's dick.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:38:06 UTC No. 16365551
>>16365533
another trashfire no doubt
though collins decided to end their programme, maybe things aren't going so badly for axiom
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:39:07 UTC No. 16365552
>>16365536
the point is to get mass to orbit cheaper, yes
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:39:44 UTC No. 16365555
>>16365419
it's about Elon, the lord of space
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:40:24 UTC No. 16365556
>>16365549
it's insane, political polarization in the USA has now created a situation where the State Department won't defend the most advanced Space/Telecomms company in the world from having sensitive assets illegally seized by a member of BRICS with a psuedo commie government... because le chud elon commented "Wow!" on a social media post they didn't like. Imagine showing this shit to someone from 50 years ago.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:40:35 UTC No. 16365557
>>16365549
We are in the midst of the weakest administration, likely the worst ever in history, who let our enemies stomp over us and our so-called “allies” abuse us. Don’t expect action from them unless it immediately benefits them both politically and financially! Very bad people!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:41:12 UTC No. 16365558
Musk is not pro free speech. He simply pro speech he likes. I he allowed content critical of (((them))) he would legit lose all his advertisers
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:42:45 UTC No. 16365560
>>16365542
I highly doubt that spacex in brazil has some sensitive equipment
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:43:46 UTC No. 16365561
>>16365558
Only advertisements I see on that website are weird AI generated ones anyways
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:44:17 UTC No. 16365562
>>16365493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGN
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:44:28 UTC No. 16365563
>>16365560
I'd argue any access controlled/non consumer grade equipment related to Starlink should be considered sensitive. It's hard to overstate how important this tech is and how desperate other countries are likely to be to replicate it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:46:19 UTC No. 16365567
>>16365542
>>16365563
to be fair even if that was the case it would ultimately be good for space technology and space as an industry. more competition = more innovation
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:46:28 UTC No. 16365568
>>16365560
ground stations
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:47:36 UTC No. 16365572
>>16365558
like he already did? lol
there is all kinds of speech, something you can't do usually is to call for violence but you can discuss pretty much anything
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:47:37 UTC No. 16365573
>>16365558
It’s too off-topic but yes, we know.
A few days ago he commented (positively) on a Tucker Carlson post that featured a guest questioning the holocaust numbers or something; then he got ze call and deleted it. They yanked his leash so hard he ended up community noting the guy and he was bragging about the community note. Elon is based most of the time but he is ultimately just another marionette at the end of the day who will do shit like ban Kanye for posting a star of david swastika while saying he protects “free speech,” i.e. whatever Elon feels is free
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:48:40 UTC No. 16365574
>>16365567
Oh fuck off commie. You’re a slant-eyed chink with jewish hands
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:49:11 UTC No. 16365576
>>16365573
but that isn't censorship, the podcast is still up, Musk just said he didn't listen far enough
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:50:42 UTC No. 16365578
>>16365574
>free market cuck when the free market lets them scam poor people nonstop with intellectual property laws
YEAAAAAH WE LOVE FREEDOM HECK YEAHHH
>free market cuck when they have to deal with global competition
AHHHHH HELP GOVERNMENT SAVE ME MRS HARRIS MA'AM I'M SORRY FOR BEING A CHUD ON TWITTER PLEASE HELP
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:51:16 UTC No. 16365580
>>16365576
I deleted it–I realized I wrote a paragraph after saying it was off-topic lmfao. But you’re right. It’s still tiresome nonetheless. It’s the bragging about the community note for me.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:52:27 UTC No. 16365581
>>16365580
You're right obviously. Classic case of the controlled opposition bot getting too big for his boots and getting slapped down.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:52:47 UTC No. 16365583
>>16365578
Thanks for proving my point. Clocked you!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:53:37 UTC No. 16365585
>>16365578
unhinged lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:54:16 UTC No. 16365587
>>16365542
Doesn't really matter, anyone could build a starlink terminal if they really wanted to. It's just a phased array comms radar, not that hard. The hard part is in launching 999999999 bajillion satellites.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:54:46 UTC No. 16365589
>>16365583
shouldn't you be sending a letter to the government begging them to save your favourite billionaire capitalist's """intellectual property""" instead of whining on the internet?
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:57:25 UTC No. 16365592
i fartee and poop came out
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:58:17 UTC No. 16365595
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:58:31 UTC No. 16365596
>>16365563
It's not THAT complex, anyone with an electronics industry can put together a similar product with some high iq people and dev time. This isn't a national security security issue. Admittedly still gay and cucked but idk what anyone expects from the United States government circa 2024.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:58:39 UTC No. 16365597
>>16365405
Polaris Yawn
Polaris Con
Polaris Gone
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:58:48 UTC No. 16365598
You know what a real free speech site looks like? It looks like 4chan. Here you actually don't get banned for posting opinions even if they are unpopular. Twitter will always be dependent on advertisers and allowing free speech on Twitter would financially ruin it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:59:50 UTC No. 16365601
>>16365596
What about the satellites themselves though?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:59:51 UTC No. 16365602
>>16365598
>Here you actually don't get banned for posting opinions even if they are unpopular
OK I am staging at page three then
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:00:54 UTC No. 16365603
>>16365009
They arent ready
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:01:49 UTC No. 16365604
>>16365587
>>16365596
Fair enough and I see your point, but if you don't think there was anything valuable there why even bother going after Starlink equipment specifically? It's not like they can sell it off in the same way they can with cars and aircraft.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:02:58 UTC No. 16365605
>>16365602
fuck off you hostage taking circumcised jew cock sucking terrorist
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:04:44 UTC No. 16365608
>>16365592
this means you experienced thrust in the opposite direction, this is spaceflight
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:05:17 UTC No. 16365609
>>16365601
It's the exact same thing as the ground terminal, just scaled up and stuck onto a satellite bus. Again admittedly it's not off the shelf and would need dev work but it's not that complicated, remember how quickly they got sent into orbit after Elon announced starlink? This isn't even close to the difficulty of an ITAR rocket engine. Laser comms is probably a different story though, but it's not like they have any satellites chilling in a favela warehouse.
>>16365604
>why even bother going after Starlink equipment specifically?
Elon man bad and cucking me, important big commie judge man.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:06:17 UTC No. 16365611
>>16365598
and it's totally the advertisers that wanted to ban the word "cisgender" and not the faggot in charge whose feelings it hurt, sure
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:07:31 UTC No. 16365613
>>16365558
He already lost most of them. There is no way X is making money. Going full Henry Ford would risk the government wresting SpaceX away from him.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:07:48 UTC No. 16365614
>>16365612
This is a blue board, stop posting disgusting gore shit. Makes me sick looking at that.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:08:29 UTC No. 16365615
>>16365609
>This isn't even close to the difficulty of an ITAR rocket engine
I wish to know how they keep turbines cool in modern rocket engines
>>16365612
why is the engine of the left booster different than the engine on the right booster
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:09:31 UTC No. 16365617
>>16365598
Some opinions get to go further off-topic than others. A certain amount of that is pretty hard to avoid, however.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:09:39 UTC No. 16365618
>>16365608
what is the isp of poop coming out of ass? assume median poop size and speed
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:09:47 UTC No. 16365619
>>16365611
his own ideology plays a role too sure. As you can see he is losing money by doing that. Imagine how much money he would lose if twitter had 4chan tier free speech.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:11:27 UTC No. 16365620
>>16365615
>I wish to know how they keep turbines cool in modern rocket engines
Me too man. I guess you can regen the outside but wtf do you do about the rotor and blades? In the estronaut interview Elon alluded to it being a whole conversation and they decided to not cool the blades so how tf does it not melt???
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:14:15 UTC No. 16365623
>>16365619
If he made verified a buck or two a month, no credential sign up, fired all the tranny and jeet jannies and made the website a not unusable piece of shit, it would be printing. State department would feed him polonium soup if he turned twitter into normie 4chan though.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:17:01 UTC No. 16365624
>>16365462
>put bullet into revolver
>spin cylinder
>put revolver to your head and pull the trigger
The most likely outcome is that you live. Does this make Russian Roulette a smart game to play?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:17:21 UTC No. 16365625
>>16365620
Jet engine turbines go to about 1700, and if they could go higher Jet engine could have higher power density and efficiency. So this is a big are of interest in Jet engine design. I wonder how they do it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:20:07 UTC No. 16365628
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:27:30 UTC No. 16365637
>>16365624
I think Manlet knows this, he’s just saying the media has dogshit spaceflight takes for clicks
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:33:24 UTC No. 16365644
>>16365641
Personally I think the OIG will say mostly what we all expect:
>NASA is still experiencing roll-over supply chain issues from le pandemic
>R&D costs have probably doubled from their original figure, or at least are projected to double by 2028
>Nuclear fuel source for RTGs will be an issue and will require a few billions more than anticipated
>MSR is so fucked it’s going to likely have to push Dragonfly into the mid-2030s
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:33:48 UTC No. 16365645
>>16365641
>the beans came out
its over
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:35:54 UTC No. 16365649
>>16365641
OIG has zero power, they are knowitall faggots. Fire them along with the contractors
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:36:51 UTC No. 16365650
>>16365649
?
They are actually kind of based, anon. They audit the shit NASA doesn’t want to talk about/share
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:37:08 UTC No. 16365652
>>16365644
I'd rather they throw and instrument out and simplify the Dragonfly than have another delay.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:37:52 UTC No. 16365653
>>16365649
t. Boeing project manager
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:40:03 UTC No. 16365655
>>16365652
that won’t even come close to fixing a price problem
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:40:45 UTC No. 16365656
>>16365655
how do we fix the price problem
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:42:00 UTC No. 16365658
>>16365653
what part of "along with the contractors" did you not understand? dumbass
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:42:12 UTC No. 16365659
>>16365649
Kill yourself
NOW
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:43:08 UTC No. 16365660
>>16365649
NASA should be defunded
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:44:15 UTC No. 16365663
>>16365659
t. government busybody
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:44:27 UTC No. 16365664
>>16365656
Stop contracting out to zipties&more in the middle of nowhere, kansas at $4,000 a ziptie. When you do this for every fucking part on the entire program your costs go through the roof. This is precisely why MSR is about to get completely axed and reworked as a commercial venture.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:46:21 UTC No. 16365665
Department of Government Efficiency shall rape NASA and its terrible spending habits
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:47:33 UTC No. 16365666
i will rape nasa
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:47:35 UTC No. 16365667
>>16365662
dragonfly is a piece of shit
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:48:47 UTC No. 16365668
>>16365665
>Department of Government Efficiency shall rape NASA and its terrible spending habits
DOGE?!?! XDDDDD WHHAAAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:48:54 UTC No. 16365669
>>16365614
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:48:57 UTC No. 16365670
>>16365667
Silence lakefag
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:50:56 UTC No. 16365671
>>16365663
t. Jewish cost plus demon
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:52:25 UTC No. 16365672
>>16365662
Program was started under cheeto Hitler, its cancellation is good long term. the more programs Nasa cancels, the more likely the blob can survive in perpetuity under congress radar. ideally all space programs are cancelled because programs cant fail and money cant get wasted if there is no programs
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:53:33 UTC No. 16365674
>>16365665
Yeah it would be sweet if Elon was given a giant axe to obliterate government pig troughs. Might be able to kick that currency collapse bucket another 10-20 years down the road if applied correctly. Sucks that it will never, ever happen.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:53:44 UTC No. 16365675
>>16365665
Fighting bureaucracy with even more bureaucracy
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:54:00 UTC No. 16365676
>>16364660
Isnt this a pedophile?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:14 UTC No. 16365678
>>16365662
Nigga you going to be dead before dragonfly shows you some generic shitty sand and roggs. The whole insistence of rovers only going to desert ass landscapes makes me think the schizos might have something going for them. No Martian polar rover? No Martian rover in the chaos or multi kilometer high cliff wall valleys? No Titan lakes helicopter? Just rovers cruising around what might as well be Arizona? Hmm idk man getting kinda sus
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:58:55 UTC No. 16365679
>>16365677
then why are they hiding
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:59:40 UTC No. 16365680
>>16365668
I'm sure things will work out fine this time with this advisory council and they will not fall out again. Remember when politicians used to put out serious proposals, doesn't apply to just Trump, instead of just some slogans Bim Bam DOGE. We will just fire half the govt and it will work out. "No, we haven't started any sort of preparatory work to research concrete policy for implementation, why do you ask?"
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:00:57 UTC No. 16365681
>>16365137
why is she toching her vag*na
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:02:22 UTC No. 16365682
>>16365681
lol
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:02:42 UTC No. 16365683
>>16365680
yes you are right, we need to have meetings and discuss and prepare and research and run it by the lawyers and regulators and faggots. you make good points all around
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:04:08 UTC No. 16365685
>>16365683
Hahah
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:07:16 UTC No. 16365688
>>16365680
>We will just fire half the govt and it will work out
You could unironically give every government employee a coin to toss, if they flip tails they are fired. Results would be a massive improvement, especially all the useless fuckers quitting over extra "work". Unfortunately we don't live in such a comfy universe and Elon is retarded for thinking this shit will ever happen.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:07:16 UTC No. 16365689
>>16365679
boeing chads are loud and proud on X. as millions of spacexsisters and stans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:12:10 UTC No. 16365693
>>16365690
Will they really cancel a program that's over $100m in the hole? over problems that spacex could solve in a weekend with a software patch?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:13:27 UTC No. 16365696
>>16365378
Back to arguments about terraforming Venus that last 3 threads
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:14:05 UTC No. 16365699
>>16365693
There’s a nonzero chance here
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:16:45 UTC No. 16365700
>>16365595
>1.
This what killed them.
>2.
Tumbling and roll rates were low enough that a conscious human could mitigate it. Prevented by mitigating item 1.
>3.
This is where the dice get rolled if you didn't asphyxiate.
>4.
Dynamic loading was within the design certification limit of the ACES suits. Pressure certification was to 100k ft however the report highlights that the actual limit of the suits is not known for the environment they were in.
>5.
They had parachutes although it is questionable if they would still function due to high temperatures affecting the nylon.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:18:30 UTC No. 16365701
>>16365696
Terraforming venus is not only possible, but likely, and objectively more important than terraforming mars. We can do it, watch Isaac Arthur videos for the plans
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:18:55 UTC No. 16365702
>>16365690
They are losing money, are demoralized, unmotivated, talent is fleeing like an evacuation zone, there are greener pastures. The public fucking HATES Boeing now (thanks to us), trust is gone. They should just call it a sunk cost and do something else.
And yes, SLS is next.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:20:05 UTC No. 16365703
>>16365693
>Will they really cancel a program that's over $100m in the hole?
Shareholder man says yes
>over problems that spacex could solve in a weekend with a software patch?
Idk if redesigning and certifying new doghouses qualifies as a software patch nigger.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:21:03 UTC No. 16365704
>>16365702
Nasa will happily cancel every other program, functional or not, before they cancel SLS
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:22:10 UTC No. 16365705
>>16365703
It could be easily solved with a software patch
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:23:41 UTC No. 16365706
>>16365705
Ogey
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:23:53 UTC No. 16365707
>>16365704
Its done after the first landing, due to momentum. But administration changes and common sense will return, it has to. If it doesn't, we really are doomed to fail.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:25:26 UTC No. 16365709
>>16365693
> $100m in the hole
The Boeing write down on Starliner so far is $1.6 billion. And they still don't have an operational vehicle.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:34:01 UTC No. 16365715
Why hasn't the Alpha Centauri system recieved proper names yet?
If it were up to me, they'd be named after Egyptian deities, since they are criminally underutilised in astronomy, and are the OG Gods along with the Ancient Greek ones.
For example, ACa could be Ra, and ACb could be Horus. PC could be Osiris. PCd could be Montu, PCb could be Aker, and PCc could be Hathor.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:35:43 UTC No. 16365716
>>16365715
Which brave and stunning poc people would you like the systems planets to be named after?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:37:06 UTC No. 16365718
>>16365618
What bodily excretion has the best specific impulse? Shid, fard, cum? Spitting or sneezing?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:39:45 UTC No. 16365720
>>16365715
Egyptians never gave a shit about space (read: the heavens). That's why all the constellations are Greek.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:43:15 UTC No. 16365722
>>16365667
>>16365678
high probability of these two posts being issued by same person. Also Dragonfly will go to Titan soon enough.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:46:25 UTC No. 16365723
>>16365715
As an Egyptian temple enjoyer I support this
>>16365718
sneezing would be my guess. Highest exhaust velocity. Lungs have a chamber pressure of up to 0.1 bar
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:46:50 UTC No. 16365724
>>16365701
>watch Isaac Arthur videos for the plans
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:48:52 UTC No. 16365725
>>16365715
Proxima Centauri Cb being the closest should be called Principium, to denote it's significance as our first step into the galaxy
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:50:09 UTC No. 16365727
>>16365722
>Dragonfly will go to Titan soon enough.
They haven't even finished the design, let alone bending metal or testing. It won't make their current 2028 launch.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:52:31 UTC No. 16365729
>>16365727
Gee why is it so hard to design a cryo drone
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:52:50 UTC No. 16365731
>>16365722
schizo
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:54:04 UTC No. 16365732
>>16365720
The Egyptians did care about space and frequently aligned their colossal works to the stars.
Unfortunately, in the centuries since, they've become unaligned. It used to be that the sun would set between obelisks, for example.
Egyptians also had a really cool name for circumpolar stars: the indestructibles.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:54:46 UTC No. 16365733
>>16365715
Sagittarius A* is a retarded name for our own galaxy’s central black hole. Just call it Sagittarius—why does it need the regarded astroonomer-assigned name from when it was first discovered as a radio anomaly?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:56:09 UTC No. 16365734
anything new from that gravitational wave observatory as of late
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:57:13 UTC No. 16365735
>>16365734
Nah half of it is in Louisiana, which the OIG cited as being filled with lazy unmotivated workers for NASA
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:06:04 UTC No. 16365741
>>16365716
The Egyptians were white.
>>16365720
That's not true. Temples were aligned to stars, and they used astrology to predict floods.
>>16365725
>latin words
Yawn. Gods are much more culturally significant. Is the hell world Venus beautiful to you? Is Neptune a sea world?
>>16365733
Scientists are retarded and autistic. They need to be sending landers with 4k cameras to all the planets and moons we know of. Normal people don't give a fuck about muh scientific data like how fast the wind speeds on Venus are.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:07:42 UTC No. 16365743
>>16365741
>They need to be sending landers with 4k cameras to all the planets and moons we know of
Hence the Dragonfly mission. If Dragonfly lands it will increase the popularity of space drastically
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:12:23 UTC No. 16365744
>>16365701
His terraforming vid started with "wormholes might be useful"
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:14:12 UTC No. 16365746
>>16365743
>Hence the Dragonfly mission
Oh, do I have some news for you.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:17:28 UTC No. 16365749
>>16365724
Don't forget to gwab a snack
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:23:43 UTC No. 16365754
>>16365744
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:24:54 UTC No. 16365755
This is now the official apologize to boeing&starliner thread.
Musk fags and bezos troons need not apply.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:26:45 UTC No. 16365758
this thread is actually not an /sfg/ thread
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:27:37 UTC No. 16365760
>>16365683
Well, don't be surprised if we get a shit show again, where the Trump admin barely gets any of their agenda through, even while holding both houses, because they didn't prepare at all. This is Mr. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated" after all.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:27:41 UTC No. 16365761
>>16365755
Starliner lost.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:28:10 UTC No. 16365762
>>16365549
Cant start shit so close to election.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:36:37 UTC No. 16365766
>>16365690
Boeing are staying silent because they're hoping everyone forgets what a shitshow this last starliner launch was, their plan will be to wait a few months then announce whatever they've already decided.
Personally I don't think it's gonna go how they want though, they're either gonna keep fucking things up or behind the scenes fuckry will keep leaking until they end up having to sell everything and shut the company down.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:38:52 UTC No. 16365770
>>16365766
They are going to push trough until they get at least one succesfull mission and then cancel the whole thing in the dark of night and never talk about it again.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:41:53 UTC No. 16365774
>>16365770
I honestly don't know if they have the talent to do one successful mission before the ISS deorbits.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:43:29 UTC No. 16365776
>>16365774
Probably not, but they need at least win before they cancel the project to go "see, it worked!!"
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:51:42 UTC No. 16365788
catch wen
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:54:03 UTC No. 16365790
>>16365776
I get a feeling that their only win is gonna be that the one that just landed wouldn't have actually killed the astronauts if they'd been on it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 12:59:27 UTC No. 16365794
>>16365790
I already see the future discussions on this.
>starliner was a complete joke!
>UUHH, actually, that one time it returned safely to earth!!!!!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:03:13 UTC No. 16365797
https://youtu.be/RTEWLSTyUic&t=1h36
https://youtu.be/T8ghnnCRQJs
Lol we've had electro static anti grav tech for at least 40 years. We all would be zooming in personal flying cars right now if not for the deep state + oil cartel.
Imagine having a vehicle the size of a small public bus out your front door which can lazily drift through the skies taking in the view or kicked into top speed and see you arrive on the other side of the globe in under an hour. For me? I'd live in a quaint wooden house situated smack bang in one of the most remote places in world, the Mongolian steppe. And once a week I'd hop in my 'car' get my weekly shopping from the finest organic foods market in Europe and then zip back home. Oh I forgot to mention, this tech can also be configured to put out energy, not anti grav waves, so you would have a box in the corner of the house the size of a shoe box that puts out limitless clean energy and all for free. The technology to liberate us all exists and is being hidden. A lot of suicides and accidents occurring for the people who make scientific advances in this field...weird, depression and clumsiness is contagious it seems
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:08:06 UTC No. 16365800
>New Horizons launched in 2006
>It reached the Moon's orbit in just nine hours
>It reached Jupiter in one year
>At this speed it would've reached Pluto in 2020-2021
>The gravity assist from Jupiter knocked off five to six years of its travel time to Pluto
>It would still take another eight years to reach Pluto
>New Horizons finally reached Pluto in July 2015, and completed its flyby in just 22 hours
>It would take another 15 months to transfer all the collected data back to Earth
New Horizons may be my favourite mission so far. Getting such clear photographs of a planet so far away is such an incredible feat.
>Pluto is on average 0.000625 LY away from the Sun
>Proxima Centauri is 4.24 LY away
The scale of space is incomprehensible.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:24:24 UTC No. 16365813
>had and still has the best universities in the world
>was home to many of the greatest modern scientists, astronomers, and other professionals
>conquered and owned most of the world at one point
>has less of a space prescence than fucking india
I hate this fucking country. Churchill fucked everything up. And for God's sake, that name and branding is terrible. It should've been HMSA instead.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:31:43 UTC No. 16365818
>>16365800
nyooom
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:37:49 UTC No. 16365823
>>16365800
>>16365818
In 80 years, will we have hi-res photographs of Proxima b?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:40:15 UTC No. 16365827
>>16365533
My guess is NASA wouldn't stop changing requirements, like on ML-2
This is one reason SpaceX holds tight to FFP contracting
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:40:51 UTC No. 16365829
>>16365823
We could have them in our lifetime if we were willing to fund a giant death laser for breakthrough starshot
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:40:52 UTC No. 16365830
>>16365492
it's sarcasm you dummy
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:44:43 UTC No. 16365835
>>16365829
>if we were willing to fund
Lol
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:44:58 UTC No. 16365836
Falcon 9/X-37b was almost a fully reusable mission
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:47:55 UTC No. 16365839
>>16365800
>NASA's Parker Solar Probe is the fastest human-made object ever, reaching speeds of 394,736 miles per hour (635,266 kilometers per hour). This is nearly 400 times faster than a fighter jet and 500 times faster than the speed of sound.
And at these speeds, getting to Proxima Centauri would take 7200 years.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:48:24 UTC No. 16365840
>>16365823
Man I remember that big blurry image on the bottom left being THE picture of Pluto for a while.
As for images of Proxima b there's always the Breakthrough Starshot concept for hurling a swarm of microsats at it and boosting their speed with lasers.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:49:02 UTC No. 16365842
>>16365813
>conquered and owned most of the world at one point
Shitty third world countries aren't most of the world. in the 18th century 80% of the world was Europe
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:50:05 UTC No. 16365844
>>16365839
The scale of our own stellar neighborhood is ridiculous. Not to mention the size of the entire milky way, or the size of the entire planet observable universe.
Yet at the same time, it’s all navigable nonetheless if you have a hypothetical ship that can output 1g of constant acceleration
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:51:02 UTC No. 16365846
>>16365823
that computer generate image on the left looks night like the real image on the right. Anyway we may get good images of proxima b soon using computational methods
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:53:51 UTC No. 16365850
>>16365846
I think the one on the right was also an estimation based off of low res imaging.
Pluto’s look was estimated pretty damn well
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:53:58 UTC No. 16365851
>>16365839
a 7 stage nuclear lightbulb engine could easily reach 1% C
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:54:23 UTC No. 16365852
>>16365840
its crazy (insane, just the size of it etc) to me that even a hubble tier telescope couldn't get a clearer view than that. I know that they're designed for deep space imaging rather than objects in our own solar system but still
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:56:31 UTC No. 16365854
>>16365662
NASA is inefficient and in need of major reform
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:58:05 UTC No. 16365856
>>16365852
Hubble images objects which are way bigger in angular size than some small planet.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:58:15 UTC No. 16365857
>>16365676
who? I have no idea
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:58:50 UTC No. 16365858
>>16365281
>The More You Know
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:59:21 UTC No. 16365859
>>16365683
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:00:01 UTC No. 16365860
>>16365844
>hypothetical ship that can output 1g of constant acceleration
Shame how tricky those are to find
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:00:35 UTC No. 16365861
did boing and nasack stream saarliner live just so they could save face by telling the public
>hey, look, it landed exactly where we wanted it to!
?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:00:47 UTC No. 16365863
Reminder that this method could be used to produce images of exoplanets. Essentially by merely measuring the color of the planet many time over the rotation of the planet, it's possible to produce some sort of image using a computer algorithm
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:02:08 UTC No. 16365864
>>16365612
>duct tape on the nozzle
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:02:51 UTC No. 16365866
>>16365863
Besides chemical remote sensing data “indicating an ocean,” have deep space planetary scientists ever been able to confirm any expoplanet that—for certain—has oceans and continents? Beyond a shadow of a doubt?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:05:39 UTC No. 16365870
>>16365860
Medusa pulse nuclear propulsion ship
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:06:40 UTC No. 16365872
>>16365866
not sure but I do think NASA is confident some planets have water oceans. Something that's not too hard to achieve a planet simply has to be the right distance from the sun. Now some of the ocean worlds are probably completely covered in water without land.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:09:55 UTC No. 16365873
>>16365863
Why can't we do this for KBO like Eris and Haumea?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:10:50 UTC No. 16365874
>>16365823
Boots on the ground in 80 years.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:10:52 UTC No. 16365875
Earth is the only astronomical object known to presently have bodies of liquid water on its surface, although several exoplanets have been found with the right conditions to support liquid water.[7] There are also considerable amounts of subsurface water found on Earth, mostly in the form of aquifers.[8] For exoplanets, current technology cannot directly observe liquid surface water, so atmospheric water vapor may be used as a proxy.[9] The characteristics of ocean worlds provide clues to their history and the formation and evolution of the Solar System as a whole. Of additional interest is their potential to originate and host life.
In June 2020, NASA scientists reported that it is likely that exoplanets with oceans are common in the Milky Way galaxy, based on mathematical modeling studies.[10][11]
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:12:38 UTC No. 16365879
>>16365875
I am so fucking envious of future civilization like 1,000 years from now who will know so much more about the universe. I wish I had a time machine. Maybe I’ll cryogenically freeze myself or upload to the machine
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:15:30 UTC No. 16365885
>>16365879
Get on a 1g ship and blast off to betelgeuse and back. Relativistic affects would mean 20 years for you, 1,000 years for earth
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:18:54 UTC No. 16365887
>>16365879
Sometimes I feel that way, but then I remember that we are living in the generation of the pioneers of space travel. The Moon landings were less than six decades ago, that's literally nothing. We have the most important role right now, that will determine the future of humanity hundreds and thousands of years in the future.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:19:28 UTC No. 16365889
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:22:14 UTC No. 16365892
>>16365887
Good point. I hope history remembers those who are opposed to accelerationism in this very important/pivotal time period. The crabs, the planetary protectionists, the progressives. Right now it seems you are called crazy for saying men are men, women are women, and the moon and mars and beyond need colonizing. Things will get better. They must, for the sake of our species
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:24:09 UTC No. 16365897
>>16365690
why do people desperately want boeing to stay? oldspace loser mentality
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:27:43 UTC No. 16365901
>>16365870
I remember reading somewhere that Orion fuel pellets are actually quite reasonably sized. I wonder what the theoretical “burn time” could be for a ship? Could you carry enough nuclear fuel bombs to constantly provide blasts for, say, a decade straight? That’s a tall order.
If it IS possible, you’d really only be limited by supplies to keep everyone fed and healthy. But seeing how there’s really no limit to how big your ship could be I’d say your cargo space would be pretty much infinite for all intents and purposes.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:28:58 UTC No. 16365902
>>16365879
Imagine getting to peruse the Library of Worlds from your own personal spaceship. It's all I've ever wanted.
>>16365887
It's barely been a century since mankind first figured out powered flight, using some wood and canvas.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:29:45 UTC No. 16365905
>>16365851
>nuclear lightbulb engine
Doesn't work. The reaction itself is opaque, even if you can find a way to avoid your bulb dissolving like sugar
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:34:20 UTC No. 16365912
>>16365901
Mars is a test. As soon as we figure out the minimum viable product for an industrialized civilization on a hostile body, we'll be able to send a ship to a different star. The Orion drive is basically solved, right? Is there any handwaving materials or anything?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:35:13 UTC No. 16365913
>>16365902
>Pic
https://youtu.be/Q55Uc2JCqo8
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:41:10 UTC No. 16365917
>>16365912
Nope it’s possible, they went full autism with their preliminary reports and basically got everything figured out save for final approval. Crewed variants needed a bigger dampener so the crew didn’t get obliterated by the sheer force of the bombs against the pusher plate transferred to the ship but I think Medusa (a “pull” instead of a “push” that captures more of the explosion and transfers it to kinetic energy) doesn’t have this problem plus it has the additional benefit of being a much smoother acceleration profile as opposed to “bursts” you’d feel as a crew member on a conventional Orion ship
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:41:59 UTC No. 16365919
>>16365892
The worst people are the ones opposed to space travel. They ask "why?", "what's the point?". And to them I respond "where is your humanity?". Curiosity and the desire to explore for the sake of it are innate human traits, possibly the most important ones, together with our ability to think abstractly and our nobility. We may be living in the generation of the pioneers, but embedded between them are just as many pessimists. There are many, many reasons as to why they exist, but I won't go in to them. It may seem as though we are surrounded by darkness, but the stars always break through the night. Continue focusing on the light, and don't let the shadows consume you.
>>16365902
Exactly. We've come so far in such little time, and sometimes the unknown can overwhelm us. Like I said - it's our natural instinct to want to know more. But we should be more appreciative of what we do know, because it's an absolute shitton. Imagine how Galileo would react if he saw the photographs of the moons he discovered. Galileo died knowing he would never see what they truly looked like, and yet his contributions were never forgotten, the same way the people of our time will never be forgotten, thousands of years from now.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:42:25 UTC No. 16365921
>>16364821
Wait what the fuck, is this going to use aerocapture specifically to get into orbit? I can't think of a single mission that used aerocapture into orbit; aerobraking to lower the orbit or skipping orbit entirely and going straight into descent doesn't count.
ExoMARS's Trace Gas Orbiter used aerobraking to lower its orbit, but it injected into mars orbit using thrusters first. The aerobrake came later and was *only* to lower the orbit, not establish it. Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter also used aerobraking to lower its orbit, but it also achieved orbital insertion exclusively with thrusters. 2001 Mars Odyssey also used thrusters to insert into Mars orbit.
Are the changs actually doing something new instead of just copying homework?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:44:12 UTC No. 16365924
antinatalism is the way
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:45:51 UTC No. 16365928
>>16365924
counterporductive colonists will be put to work on the phobosian work camps.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:46:37 UTC No. 16365931
>>16365917
>Drag the ship through every explosion
Is this a bad idea?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:48:04 UTC No. 16365933
>>16365931
No it’s based
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:50:44 UTC No. 16365938
>>16365928
>phobosian work camps
The worst offenders will be made to run hurdles.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:53:26 UTC No. 16365944
>>16365800
>New Horizons may be my favourite mission so far. Getting such clear photographs of a planet
Pluto is not a planet
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:54:52 UTC No. 16365947
>>16365944
Fuck off ((((IAU)))).
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:02:06 UTC No. 16365958
>Father, where did our home get its name?
>>16365725
>Well son, the empire from which our civilization is derived, Rome, once also expanded into the unknown...
>>16365715
>Well son, some NIGGERS were FURRIES
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:03:20 UTC No. 16365959
>>16364885
>>16364877
NASA always saves bad news for friday nights
goddamn fucking lobbyist controlled corrupt shithole government money laundering scumbags protecting corporate interests by releasing news when it can't tank stocks as bad
I hate oldspace, but never enough
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:06:24 UTC No. 16365961
>>16365947
If the telescopes had been better back then other transneptunian bodies would have been found and its planetary status would have gone the same way that of Ceres did.
The Moon, however, is a planet.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:21:52 UTC No. 16366012
>>16365961
There are give or take 20 planets in the solar system.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:24:22 UTC No. 16366016
>>16365265
>>16365270
what a stud
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:26:21 UTC No. 16366018
>>16366012
No, they would have to mass more than the Moon, which is the smallest planet
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:29:29 UTC No. 16366022
>>16366012
>>16366012
This. I'm so tired of the bigoted old view of there being only 8 planets or whateber
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:31:37 UTC No. 16366025
Gas giants aren't real planets. They're just big piles of hydrogen and shit, more like a lazy star than a world.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:48:29 UTC No. 16366046
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:55:50 UTC No. 16366054
>>16366046
I ain't clicking that shit nigga
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:01:48 UTC No. 16366059
>>16366054
"We are developing electronics that can operate continuously on the surface of Venus at 500*C (932*F)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:06:30 UTC No. 16366064
>>16366059
venus needs more missions
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:07:05 UTC No. 16366065
>>16366035
>hooray, now more scammers can get into contact with our grandmothers!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:07:33 UTC No. 16366066
>>16365561
or coomer gacha games
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:09:57 UTC No. 16366070
>>16366065
>grandma sends money to Zimbabwe
>Zimbabwe sends money to Starlink
>Starlink sends money to SpaceX
>SpaceX spends money on Mars
Thanks grandma
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:12:47 UTC No. 16366075
spacex has a single boat & helicopter for recovery. starliner seems to have a lot more
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:13:16 UTC No. 16366076
>>16366071
Shouldn't the flag be upside down?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:15:59 UTC No. 16366077
>>16366075
you can operated dozens of pickup trucks for the cost of one boat
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:21:46 UTC No. 16366082
>>16366070
wtf, I will no longer redeem
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:23:23 UTC No. 16366084
>>16366077
How are they going to get that thing onto a pickup truck? The trucks you see there are just for hauling those mustache guys around.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:24:57 UTC No. 16366087
>>16366084
Semis with a flatbed trailer are also cheap to operate
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:32:33 UTC No. 16366104
>>16366071
Why are modern trucks so ugly?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:42:44 UTC No. 16366115
>>16366104
Unironically pedestrian safety. Getting hit by a truck is like getting hit by a multi-ton brick: your head and feet get sheared clean off if you're lucky. They had to round the edges to make getting hit by one merely crippling instead.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:44:25 UTC No. 16366118
>>16366025
Ok and if you removed all that hydrogen and were left with the dense core and liquid hydrogen oceans far bigger than earth what would you say
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:46:39 UTC No. 16366120
AAAAAAAAAH LAUNCH THE FUCKING ROCKET ELON STOP THE 2 MORE WEEKS
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:52:00 UTC No. 16366126
>>16366120
We're at least 6 weeks away from launch
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:06:06 UTC No. 16366138
>>16366118
Can I stand on it?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:06:17 UTC No. 16366139
>>16366126
*months
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:07:33 UTC No. 16366140
>>16366138
Are you less dense than liquid hydrogen?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:11:52 UTC No. 16366145
>>16366120
Every time you post like a retarded faggot another week gets added to the countdown
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:20:19 UTC No. 16366151
>>16365715
It consists of three stars: Rigil Kentaurus, Toliman, and Proxima Centauri.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:22:46 UTC No. 16366153
>>16366140
I don't know, I'm fairly dense
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:24:05 UTC No. 16366155
>>16364660
that's a man
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:27:33 UTC No. 16366157
>>16366071
>cuck vests
>cuck helmets
>a fucking flag pole
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:34:11 UTC No. 16366161
>>16366157
>splashdown in the stinky ocean
>has to be rescued from drowning by homosexual navy men
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:38:18 UTC No. 16366167
>>16366161
I didn't even mention the wands. It's a fucking pickup truckomeone yet someone told this dude to go stand out there and wave them like that guy is taxiing the shuttle carrier aircraft.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:39:52 UTC No. 16366169
>>16366071
Fly that shit at half mast
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:44:05 UTC No. 16366173
>>16365718
You dont think it's cum? I can blast the walls off my house when let loose 3 days built up cum
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:45:04 UTC No. 16366175
>>16365623
They're already close to that. Tucker Carlson did a video interview of some fag with a big account questioning the normie WW2 narrative. It didn't get taken down. The political shrieking was unbelievable. Elon is going all in on Trump because he knows otherwise he's going to be a political prisoner by 2026.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:46:15 UTC No. 16366177
>>16366175
Trump is a zionist.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:49:29 UTC No. 16366180
>>16366177
and?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:59:50 UTC No. 16366195
https://youtu.be/tR1HTNtcYw0
grabbing aliens arent real
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:01:05 UTC No. 16366196
>>16366195
>aliens are like this
>aliens are like that
aliens are like lichen
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:02:33 UTC No. 16366197
>>16366035
im surprised africa is so slow on the uptake. i know its a corrupt shithole but people have got to be seeing dollar signs and opportunity regardless.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:03:31 UTC No. 16366198
>>16366175
Holy fucking cute
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:04:39 UTC No. 16366199
>>16366196
We discovered them on Mars, but JPL plays retarded so we pay them to send more shitboxes
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:05:21 UTC No. 16366200
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:08:52 UTC No. 16366204
what a joke the ISS is, they just spend billioions of dollars a year to do this friggin glamour project, have nothing to show for it, and when its all cancelled they are back to the beginning
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:10:19 UTC No. 16366205
>>16366204
And we still don't know what happens when you get pregnant in space
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:10:38 UTC No. 16366207
>>16366204
wow what a brave and interesting take
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:17:02 UTC No. 16366216
>>16366208
YouTube version 4K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7L
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:18:22 UTC No. 16366218
>>16365818
Reminds me of when I tried to just fly out of the system in Outer Wilds, watching everything slowly fade away
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:18:53 UTC No. 16366220
>>16366197
I've been enjoying some really nice wildlife streams thanks to it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:22:32 UTC No. 16366224
>>16366204
the least they could do is investigate the effect of one and a half years in space, the travel time to Mars
but no, sixth month regular stints and a year max
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:24:20 UTC No. 16366229
>>16366204
That wasn't the original plan, they had cool things in the works. Blame the demons from hell we call congressmen, and the complicit satan worshipers the cattle elect as executive.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:26:38 UTC No. 16366234
>>16366204
it was cool at least
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:28:50 UTC No. 16366238
>>16366229
It was maybe an interesting idea, but then they just carried it on for 30 years for no real purpose
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:29:44 UTC No. 16366240
>>16366234
I don't want to see it go, bros.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:32:36 UTC No. 16366247
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:37:30 UTC No. 16366256
reminder that this is not an /sfg/ thread and posts don't have to be space related
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:38:49 UTC No. 16366257
>As an experiment on the station, he wore the same special underpants for a month without washing them
Name that astronaut
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:40:09 UTC No. 16366258
>>16366257
Elon Musk
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:40:17 UTC No. 16366260
>>16366234
reminder that Saturn V send something with a slightly smaller habitable volume to space in one go
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:41:04 UTC No. 16366261
>>16366257
all of them?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:41:31 UTC No. 16366263
>>16366225
That would go tanks dry unreasonably quickly. The actual AJ10-137 already had an Isp of 314s thanks to the big engine bell but way less thrust/mdot than an RVac. By the time you finish modifying Apollo to work with an RVac you basically get a smaller (and thus worse due to square/cube law) Starship.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:41:32 UTC No. 16366264
>>16366235
Dragon will never look this cool
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:45:45 UTC No. 16366269
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:46:53 UTC No. 16366272
webm pl0x
https://x.com/sbarky38/status/18284
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:48:49 UTC No. 16366276
>>16366229
>space station is a repair shop for satellites
how was that ever going to work? Where they just going to hope that broken satellites were still maneuverable and had enough delta-v to get there? And then refuel them in space too?
was NASA just making up shit to impress Congress?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:48:53 UTC No. 16366277
I don't want to live longer because I know it will mean much more personal suffering but I also want to live much, much longer, for centuries if not millennia, just to see how humanity takes to the stars. I want to live in a von Braun wheel, I want to be the first settlers on an interstellar world, terraforming it to habitability, setting up the first infrastructure and keeping alive human traditions, but I also don't want to live even another decade because I know it will just get worse.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:50:18 UTC No. 16366281
>>16366263
but starship is like 70m with 9 engines baka
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:52:39 UTC No. 16366289
>>16366260
is there a reason why wet workshops were never investigated further?
toxic fumes? radiation shielding?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:52:52 UTC No. 16366291
>>16366240
Axiom should look into whether its feasible to reuse some of the newer ISS module hardware thats still perfectly good. That way parts of the station could live on and reduce the mass to be deorbited. It's probably not that simple though.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:54:48 UTC No. 16366296
>>16366289
I'm going to go out on a limb and blame the space shuttle
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:55:50 UTC No. 16366298
>>16366281
Yes that's what makes it better.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:56:08 UTC No. 16366299
6 way airlock with a starship docked to 4 of the ports with the remainder reserved for a dragon lifeboat and station expansion. Your new ISS (now XSS)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:59:44 UTC No. 16366307
>>16366291
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raffa
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:00:10 UTC No. 16366309
>>16366289
they failed to install Germans in key NASA positions
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:00:22 UTC No. 16366310
>>16366269
Cute
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:00:24 UTC No. 16366311
>>16366289
>toxic fumes
If that was the issue then I guess they could just pressurize once to aerate the fumes then depressurize it before refilling it for habitation.
>radiation shielding
That shouldn't be too much of an issue if they just put some extra lining in the internal hull
The anon who suggested the shuttle was probably right.
While Starship has plenty of volume in its payload region, I wonder if the fuel storage could be used like a wet workshop to expand the habitable volume past the cargo bay.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:00:37 UTC No. 16366312
>>16366296
Correct! The ETs couldn't be used as wet workshops or left in orbit as depots because the foam would keep falling off to create a debris cloud over time. Centaur and DCSS were too small in volume, and Falcon's upper stage was too skinny. The S-IV was the last workshoppable stage until Starship.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:01:44 UTC No. 16366314
>>16366312
Do you know that for a fact? I was under the impression that the S-IV had internal foam
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:01:56 UTC No. 16366315
https://youtu.be/Fb3mrsUAaFc
Buy Terraform stock, apply Terraform jobs, Terraform Mars
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:02:05 UTC No. 16366316
>>16365563
You can't replicate Starlink without the low cost launch capability, and if you do have the launch capability there's little mystery left.
There would be hard work involved, but not meme tech that you can reverse engineer and suddenly have a constellation.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:03:31 UTC No. 16366320
>>16366312
sounds like noog len will make a very good wet workshop if they ever choose to pursue it,.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:03:38 UTC No. 16366321
What do we make of Godel's incompleteness theorem?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:06:34 UTC No. 16366329
>>16366320
might as well do something with that giant ass expendable upper stage, plus bezos is an o’neill fag so w*t worksh*pping is right down his alley (or “up his tube,” if you will)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:06:35 UTC No. 16366330
>>16366314
Internal is the key word. It was held in by metal.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:09:18 UTC No. 16366336
>>16366320
>>16366329
I will stop hating Bezos if he satisfies my space station autism by turning a New Glenn into a wet workshop.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:09:47 UTC No. 16366337
>>16365609
The satellite constellation is a significantly harder problem, but one that is largely already solved.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:12:59 UTC No. 16366342
>>16366204
Has NASA ever made a big (big) report on everything that went right/wrong with the ISS. Best practices. Things to avoid. What they learned. All done in a big systemic manner to more easily pass on the information? Seems the absolute best thing they could give to all the new companies exploring new stations
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:13:25 UTC No. 16366343
>>16365615
>I wish to know how they keep turbines cool in modern rocket engines
Won't the parts in contact with the working fluid just always be at the same temperature as it? Is that even a problem?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:14:26 UTC No. 16366344
>>16365624
It depends on the value of your life
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:21:08 UTC No. 16366353
>>16365649
They have no direct power other than to collect information. Their indirect power comes from share sharing that information with those in a position to make decisions or to use the information to bully others who may ultimately influence policy or budgets.
Similarly, a single cop can't put you in prison but he can make an arrest and file charges that ultimately lead to that. You would be ill advised to act as though this means cops are powerless.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:22:27 UTC No. 16366358
>>16365311
Orion has life support systems.
>>16365303
A lot of the graphics are severely out of date with all the rightward schedule slippage. If Buran deserves to be on there, so does Starship.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:23:29 UTC No. 16366364
>>16366312
Wikipedia said they considered using the Shuttle ET and were going to fly a test but then Challenger happened.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:25:25 UTC No. 16366366
>>16366312
None of the foam covered cryogenic upper stages (Delta IV second stage, Japan's H-2, etc) shed their foam liners in orbit.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:25:40 UTC No. 16366368
>>16366344
Then by all means, fly on Boeing vehicles.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:29:48 UTC No. 16366377
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:30:30 UTC No. 16366380
>polaris dawn cant land because of landing issues
you think they'll make it so that dragon can land in a wider area? maybe even make it so that it can land on land?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:31:31 UTC No. 16366382
>>16366380
cant launch cuz landing issues*
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:35:03 UTC No. 16366390
>>16366115
Bruh look at how fucking tall the hood is, you're getting your neck snapped and then mangled up in the tires.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:36:04 UTC No. 16366392
>>16366377
God bless
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:36:57 UTC No. 16366395
Wet workshop Starliner and its service module
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:39:02 UTC No. 16366403
>>16366380
>make it so that it can land on land?
I will be over the moon if SpaceX come around to implement that but alas I don't see that happening.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:41:12 UTC No. 16366405
>>16365664
Sample return is gay. Human hands will carry bags of samples back in the near future.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:41:39 UTC No. 16366406
>>16366395
That wouldn't really be a wet workshop, just a space station made up of a single module.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:42:49 UTC No. 16366408
>>16366377
Needs some credits in moonrunes over the top of it
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:43:17 UTC No. 16366410
>>16366380
could just parachute down into a lake or river
but "safety" autism will prevent that
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:43:59 UTC No. 16366412
>>16366406
Put one up and play 0g tennis inside it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:46:34 UTC No. 16366419
>>16365693
When making predictions the only thing you can do is assume that the future resembles the past. In the simplest model, this means they stay $100 million in the hole. If you add a rate of change to the model, this means they will go further in the hole.
What basis do you have for believing that this mismanaged project that is losing money will suddenly become profitable?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:47:39 UTC No. 16366421
>>16366405
yes but a) we need to get a mars sample return back to Earth before the Chynamen even if it’s just a super custom SpaceX-contracted mission to snag a scoop of rocks completely unrelated to the official Perseverance MSR caches, and
b) while you are correct and humans are going to Mars [eventually] it’s still a deep rot problem that is creating issues in other projects like Dragonfly, the supposed Uranus orbiter & probe that’s NASA is looking into right now, Trident/Neptune Odyssey if they ever get selected, some sort of icy world nuclear submarine… these are cool missions that can’t afford to blow up in cost the way NASA missions have been doing
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:47:42 UTC No. 16366422
>>16366412
>0g tennis inside it
I don't think there's enough space for even wall-tennis in a scrubliner.
On a side note, every time I mean to type "starliner" I subconsciously always type "scrubliner" just because of all the memes from earlier this year. Does anyone have a clip of Usui Clear saying "scrubliner" on stream and laughing about it?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:48:23 UTC No. 16366424
>>16366421
what purpose does a sample return mission accomplish
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:49:40 UTC No. 16366427
>>16365705
Even if this were true, it implies Boeing is missing the necessary ability to identify the simple software patch as the solution and the ability to implement it.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:50:09 UTC No. 16366429
>>16366422
I misread Starliner as Starship and started thinking about the sheer internal volume, my mistake.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:51:25 UTC No. 16366430
>>16366429
I don't blame you, maybe people should be more creative with names for their spacecraft
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:51:31 UTC No. 16366431
>>16366120
Forget COVID, the real pandemic has always been Go Fever, as seen here.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:52:47 UTC No. 16366433
>>16366419
I have hope! Come on dude, #TeamSpace :)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:53:09 UTC No. 16366435
Smash an object into Mars with enough energy so that a second spacecraft doing a skip maneuver can collect the ejecta.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:53:28 UTC No. 16366436
>>16366424
At this point it’s just getting it done before China.
I believe the main “official” justification for the MSR regolith caches is that NASA wants “pristine” samples of Mars they can study before any humans have ever visited. Though, this is likely just an excuse. Mars Sample Return has been on NASA’s radar (and JPL’s radar) since like the 1990s and some people within JPL/NASA have invested decades into this in one way or another and do not want the rug pulled out from under them this late in the game. In addition to it being spread super thin across congressional districts. MSR is, in many ways, just as ludicrous a gibs program as Shuttle/SLS have been.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:53:54 UTC No. 16366437
>>16366427
Boeing can contract it out to SpaceX
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:54:29 UTC No. 16366439
>>16366431
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:55:48 UTC No. 16366440
>>16366424
The research rationale is that analyzing samples of Mars in labs here on Earth with help figure out if life existed/exists on Mars and maybe using the soil to help build habitats.
I think really though its just a pride thing, can't have China beat us in another space race even if sample return is a nothingburger compared to actually getting humans on Mars.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:56:36 UTC No. 16366441
>>16366071
Literally what is the point of that flag pole? Did someone plant it after starliner landed? Is it an integral part of the trailer.
Oh wait I just realised that's a crew exit gantry. They're wheeling up a crew exit gantry with a us flag on it to a empty capsule. It was meant to be some inspiring photo opportunity but instead it's a sad reminder that they failed.
Why would boeing take and publish a picture like this, it's fucking hilarious.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:58:38 UTC No. 16366444
>>16366435
This is unironically a smart idea although someone would have to do the math to see if we can feasibly accelerate something to get enough force to make it happen, and if it would be cheaper than just having a probe land on Mars then return.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:58:56 UTC No. 16366445
>>16365720
We use a modified Egyptian solar calendar, the significant modifications having been suggested by an Egyptian.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:59:49 UTC No. 16366447
>>16366208
I like how all the thrusters spaz out when it does one tiny little change, is it really that unbalanced?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:59:53 UTC No. 16366448
>>16366441
it’s a common thing in capsule recovery. China does it with all the shenzhou landings. Russia does it with soyuz return
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:01:23 UTC No. 16366450
>NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams signatures are seen inside NASA's Boeing Crew Flight Test Starliner spacecraft after it landed uncrewed at White Sands Missile Range’s Space Harbor, Friday, Sept. 6, 2024 Mountain Time (Sept. 7 Eastern Time), in New Mexico. This approach allows NASA and Boeing to continue gathering testing data on the spacecraft.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:01:53 UTC No. 16366452
>>16366444
NASA could just beg SX to ready a phobos/deimos sample return for the next window. Easy peasy, give em’ $50 mil for the actual hardware and $150 mil for the launch on a FH
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:02:38 UTC No. 16366454
>>16365844
>ship that can output 1g of constant acceleration
Might as well base your travel plans on a unicorn that shits wishes. They have the same availability.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:07:39 UTC No. 16366459
>>16366071
lmao at the tron costumes
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:08:03 UTC No. 16366462
>>16365715
PCB should have a name related to computing, so Thoth, the god of knowledge
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:08:49 UTC No. 16366463
>>16366118
If you removed the outside the inside would melt and boil
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:10:10 UTC No. 16366464
>>16366448
Yeah, it's just funny that they bothered to fly the flag when they're practising on an empty capsule.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:10:28 UTC No. 16366465
>>16366257
I'm not an astronaut, dumbass
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:10:56 UTC No. 16366467
>>16366454
Nice try, I'm a Bussard ramjet truther. We WILL fly to the Andromeda galaxy in 26 years subjective time
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:10:58 UTC No. 16366468
>>16366459
topkek
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:11:19 UTC No. 16366469
>>16366450
imagine if their crew dragon has a malfunction now
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:11:28 UTC No. 16366470
>>16366289
not enough racism, sadly
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:13:40 UTC No. 16366475
>>16366224
Starship trip could easily be 8 months
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:17:20 UTC No. 16366479
>>16366437
kek, make it so
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:20:41 UTC No. 16366483
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:21:27 UTC No. 16366485
>>16366483
lmfao looks just like the guy on the right
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:27:52 UTC No. 16366498
why would we build a massive station on the outside of an asteroid? is this the future of large rocks once they get mined? will they be the new rust belt once their resources are tapped out?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:28:57 UTC No. 16366500
>>16366424
It keeps the boomers at JPL in scotch and scones for a while longer.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:32:51 UTC No. 16366506
>>16366498
gravity tease
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:33:40 UTC No. 16366507
>>16366483
chad energy
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:39:35 UTC No. 16366516
so bets on if starliner launches (with crew) in a year? they'll have to redo the thruster design and probably find a new contractor + tests so I'm really thinking it won't be under.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:40:33 UTC No. 16366517
>>16366498
>outside
Inside. Radiation and Earther weapon proof. Either way it isn't clear why you would do that. The minimum mass and variety of matter required for self sufficiency or at least sufficient exports to be cost neutral isn't known but I suspect it's higher than an asteroid can support
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:41:06 UTC No. 16366519
>>16366506
>homeless man's artificial gravity
mayhap
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:41:34 UTC No. 16366521
>>16366498
so you can spin it for grav
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:45:23 UTC No. 16366526
>>16366517
cargo stops/refueling will be always useful. mining trips from the belt to a station will be better than direct to buyer. plus you can then have the station do all the various kinds of processing needed of the materials. water is easy to supply (and you'll just wrap the outside sections in big water tanks to cut the space radiation). water to oxygen nbd. big enough mass gives enough room to actually have a hydroponics to a sufficient degree + probably actually soil grown stuff like apple trees. all things better than having to eat the gravity tax by placing all these facilities on some planet
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:45:28 UTC No. 16366528
>>16366521
not sure spinning a pile of gravel up to 1g (away from itself) is a good idea
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:46:31 UTC No. 16366530
>>16366528
>roggs flying everywhere
sounds like it would be a cool defense system though
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:49:30 UTC No. 16366534
>>16366528
just put a tarp over it
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:55:45 UTC No. 16366544
>>16366528
don't spin the asteroid
build two circular rails on it and have carriages run on it at a fast enough rate
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:05:23 UTC No. 16366561
how long until OIG shows SLS needs to be cancelled
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:08:52 UTC No. 16366570
>>16366336
Or if he makes Orbital Reef work.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:15:16 UTC No. 16366583
>>16366526
My point was that asteroid mining is currently infeasible
>gravity tax
The question is at what point the gravity tax is higher than the no established infrastructure, no free air, no billion strong labor force, no established and fast supply chain, tax. Probably a while from now, possibly never.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:20:43 UTC No. 16366585
>>16366583
>talking about "asteroid mining" when noone has even left LEO
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:25:46 UTC No. 16366593
>>16364678
ripping the paper case is optional if you use nitrocellulose based paper
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:26:27 UTC No. 16366594
>>16366561
The OIG and govt accountability office have basically been calling Space Launch System a heaping pile of dog doo over the last 5 years so they’re definitely doing their part
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:28:09 UTC No. 16366596
>>16364811
you're a retard troll and just as bad as the newfag
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:29:59 UTC No. 16366599
there's no reason a wet workshop should involve any cutting. build your oxidizer tank with a hatch in the top.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:52:57 UTC No. 16366626
>>16366605
"By the way, this is a meme I drew around the time the cause of the strange noise was discovered."
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:58:57 UTC No. 16366631
>>16365266
It landed on land? Could they add tech like this for their shitty planes on complete engine failure?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 21:59:50 UTC No. 16366633
What are we even waiting for?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:02:19 UTC No. 16366638
>>16366596
>everyone who doesnt say what i like is a troll
what part of that statement even made you this mad
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:02:43 UTC No. 16366640
>>16366633
the passage of 14 days
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:03:16 UTC No. 16366642
>>16366640
And what happens after 14 days?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:04:10 UTC No. 16366645
>>16366642
1 more fortnight
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:04:11 UTC No. 16366646
>>16366642
the two weeks starts
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:05:11 UTC No. 16366647
>>16366642
idk, 50/50 that elon time strikes 12
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:06:17 UTC No. 16366649
>>16366642
then you can start to actually try and sugarcoat it
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:07:09 UTC No. 16366652
>>16366642
[deleted]
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:08:14 UTC No. 16366653
>>16366642
the clock to reset
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:08:16 UTC No. 16366654
>>16366652
what did he write?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:09:23 UTC No. 16366655
>>16366654
racist slurs
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:10:00 UTC No. 16366658
>>16366654
he wrote [deleted] moron this isnt rebbit
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:10:15 UTC No. 16366661
>>16366654
The “d-word”
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:10:50 UTC No. 16366662
>>16366654
yeah
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:11:20 UTC No. 16366663
get
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:11:42 UTC No. 16366664
>>16366663
fail
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:12:09 UTC No. 16366666
>>16366663
looooool
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:13:59 UTC No. 16366672
>>16366666
based
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:19:10 UTC No. 16366684
>>16365836
Starship/X-37b is going to be so fucking funny
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:26:26 UTC No. 16366703
>>16366701
concerning
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:30:00 UTC No. 16366708
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:30:18 UTC No. 16366710
>>16366705
hi, retarded idiot here.
wouldn't it be easier to do this on the moon instead of mars?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:31:11 UTC No. 16366711
>>16366710
the cost to terraform the moon is prohibitively expensive
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:31:57 UTC No. 16366712
>>16366710
Not enough shit on the moon. Mars does.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:32:23 UTC No. 16366713
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:32:33 UTC No. 16366714
>>16366712
>>16366711
ah, i see
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:35:21 UTC No. 16366717
>>16366701
Obviously I love what SpaceX is doing as much as everyone else itt but God damn that is such an uninspiring reason to go. It sucks so bad. We should be motivated to build something beautiful in a hostile frontier. The separation of stem and the humanities has been a fucking disaster
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:36:01 UTC No. 16366718
>>16366710
gravity is miniscule, no atmosphere for easy access to O2 and carbon
very little water other than some permanently shadowed craters on the poles (assuming you can't get it from the regolith, there is some chinese study that says you might be able to)
almost no carbon at all
too close to the earth so it won't be independent in any sense and won't be forced to become self-sustaining like mars will have to
the moon is going to have a base and maybe even industry, but it will be an extension of earth and probably dependent on it
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:37:20 UTC No. 16366720
>>16366710
Mars is missing carbon and with no atmosphere you need to build underground to avoid radiation. Mars colonization is actually easier despite the distance.
>>16366711
>terraform
Retard
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:38:46 UTC No. 16366723
>>16366720
terraforming distant worlds is one of the important goals for humans in the far future Elon wants to secure humanity's future
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:40:10 UTC No. 16366725
Is that stupid water permit really the only thing stopping SpaceX from launching?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:41:21 UTC No. 16366727
>>16366724
>2019: 12k satellites? pfff, that's impossible! starlink is gonna fail!
>2024: nooo, musk has too much power, kessler syndrome!1
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:42:04 UTC No. 16366729
>>16366725
they said they were ready like a month ago so probably
now that they have time to kill they are continuing to upgrade the tower
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:43:06 UTC No. 16366733
>>16366724
interesting choice of color
lol
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:43:21 UTC No. 16366734
>>16366725
Water permit is related to the new license, increasing their yearly launch limit.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:43:28 UTC No. 16366735
>>16366723
For the specific question he asked, terraforming doesn't come into it. You also don't need to terraform to live somewhere besides Earth.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:44:11 UTC No. 16366739
>>16366724
>won't somebody think of poor oneweb, who was FORCED to rely on musks rockets because the alternative was soyuz
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:44:22 UTC No. 16366740
>>16366710
Put colonies on the moon, and mars, and other places in the solarsystem. Try all sorts of things at these locations. Starship optimizing for mass to the surface of mars gets you to a generally useful system.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:46:10 UTC No. 16366743
don't make me post the mattress
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:50:16 UTC No. 16366752
>>16366743
>here's your mars base bro
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:51:06 UTC No. 16366754
>>16366749
Terraform Antarctica first.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:51:26 UTC No. 16366755
>>16366749
now THIS is something i can get behind. that dustball is close to a belt and its only good quality is being the furthest out significant moon of a planet. by the time we get there slinging water ice asteroids at moons wont be so expesnive and nobody cares about triton right now! would be perfect world to just dick around with and make a better place as a lost stop in the solar system before trying to go to another system
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:53:10 UTC No. 16366756
>>16366705
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18325
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:54:01 UTC No. 16366759
>>16366754
Terraform Australia, that place is mostly uninhabitable. Shit, terraform Arizona. Phoenix is not fit for human life outside of climate-controlled habitats.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:54:11 UTC No. 16366761
2 more years
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:55:21 UTC No. 16366763
>>16366756
>metabolically
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:56:24 UTC No. 16366764
self sustaining mars city by 2045 but it actually slips to 2050, thunderfoot promptly mocks the slippage and brings up hyperloop again
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:57:35 UTC No. 16366767
>>16366756
>>16366763
kek
It will be an historic mission
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:58:05 UTC No. 16366768
so SpaceX might actually land cargo starships on mars before Artemis 2 happens
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:58:52 UTC No. 16366771
>>16366768
Cargo Starship doesn't even exist
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:58:54 UTC No. 16366772
>>16366763
We will metabolize the eggs and everyone will know everything
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:59:01 UTC No. 16366773
>>16366759
unfortunately the natives are too hostile
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:59:39 UTC No. 16366776
>>16366289
The shittle was too small
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:00:08 UTC No. 16366777
>>16366771
You've seen the prototypes down at Starbase
A functional Orion heatshield doesn't exist
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:00:40 UTC No. 16366779
>>16366756
>musk's timeline is now officially 2030 for first manned landing
it's unironically over, isn't it?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:01:19 UTC No. 16366782
>>16366779
you mean 2028? did you forget how to count to 4 anon?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:01:22 UTC No. 16366783
>>16366772
pringles pls
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:01:31 UTC No. 16366785
>>16366777
I have seen only one prototype of a barrel that has never been used.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:01:50 UTC No. 16366787
2 more transfer windows
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:02:20 UTC No. 16366790
>>16366779
what do you mean? those are basically the earliest possible timelines you could make from today
a bunch of cargo starships to make sure you can land reliably and then crew right in the next possible transfer windonw
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:02:22 UTC No. 16366791
>>16366782
oh wait, I thought he meant 4 years after the cargo starships land.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:03:34 UTC No. 16366793
>>16366779
fuck man why does spaceflight take so slow to advance
as a kid I was hoping I would be able to work on the moon or in a space station in my mid 20s, now I'm approaching my mid 20s and it seems like commercial spaceflight won't be for the common folk until I'm in my mid 40s.
in the fucking 1970s they thought we would be colonizing Jupiter's moons by now
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:03:41 UTC No. 16366794
>>16366785
what takes Lockheed Martin and NASA 10 years takes SpaceX a few months
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:04:32 UTC No. 16366795
>>16366528
is the "all asteroids are piles of dust" poster also the "babies born in less than earth g will be monsters" retard?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:04:33 UTC No. 16366796
>>16366779
It could literally slip to 2038 and I’d still be riding the high because a non-SpaceX timeline would be NASA “aiming for 2060” and that’s assuming ZERO problems
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:04:51 UTC No. 16366797
>>16366783
Where are my launches, Borisov? My cosmonauts are dying out here!
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:05:07 UTC No. 16366798
>>16366793
america wouldn't even have the ability to send humans to space today if it wasn't for spacex.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:06:11 UTC No. 16366802
>>16366797
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:07:08 UTC No. 16366809
>>16366436
>since like the 1990s
It's been going a bit longer than that.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/196
>Automated / unmanned Mars sample return missions.
>November 1, 1967
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/197
>Automated Mars surface sample return mission / system concepts
>October 1, 1969
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/197
Mars surface sample return missions via solar electric propulsion
>August 1, 1971
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/197
>Summary of the proceedings of the Mars Surface Sample Return Symposium
>October 25, 1973
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/197
>Planetary mission summary. Volume 3: Mars surface sample return
>August 1, 1974
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/197
>Mars surface sample return tradeoff studies
>October 1, 1975
Things didn't really start to get serious until the mid-ish seventies when they started planning the missions that were supposed to happen after Mars-Voyager (two giant eleven ton Mars landers that were going to get launched on a spare Saturn V and were eventually downsized until they became the Viking missions) but if the roots of this project went back any further it'd have been cooked up by NACA instead of NASA.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:07:26 UTC No. 16366810
>>16366798
that's the real blackpill, if Elon (literally one man) didn't decide to dump billions into private spaceflight, we would be missing a decade of progress in re-usability and commercialization and oldspace fags would be jerking themselves off over some shitty outdated launch system
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:07:34 UTC No. 16366811
>>16366793
It's slow only to outsiders.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:09:16 UTC No. 16366814
What do you think are the chances for a 2028 manned landing attempt? I was unironically hoping for a 2026 attempt back at the SN1 days, but after all these years of delay after delay, it now seems to me they will most probably do it in the mid 2030s. 50/50 anon, abstain from replying.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:10:16 UTC No. 16366815
>>16366814
50/50
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:11:31 UTC No. 16366819
>>16366814
depends if trump wins or not
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:12:42 UTC No. 16366821
>>16366810
what blackpills me is how easily space could just stop. not even from kessler meme or anything. we just stop building and launching rockets except for the occasional spy sat and maybe a TV sat or two.
in 2011 NASA retired their only crewed launcher with no replacement lined up
in 2024 ROSCOSMOS is on track to launch fewer rockets than any year since 1969
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:13:32 UTC No. 16366822
>>16366814
30%
I think they'll probably have a few fuck up and want to try again to make sure they have things down. They'll be sending a bunch of unmanned Starships.
>>16366819
Oh yeah also this. 0% if Kamala wins.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:14:07 UTC No. 16366823
>>16366810
what blackpills me is how easily space could just stop. not even from kessler meme or anything. we just stop building and launching rockets except for the occasional spy sat and maybe a TV sat or two.
in 2011 NASA retired their only crewed launcher with no replacement lined up
in 2024 ROSCOSMOS is on track to launch fewer rockets than any year since 1961
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:14:13 UTC No. 16366824
>>16366819
Unironically the best answer.
I’ll raise another question for the general: will we actually get to see a reduction, in any capacity whatsoever, of regulations in terms of SS launch licensing assuming a DT win?
The time between Flight 4 and upcoming Flight 5 has been a long time. And as SS gets more and more mature they are going to want to launch every three weeks, every two weeks, every week, multiple times a week… I simply don’t see that happening right now. I’d argue Starship only “works” (as intended) with complete policy change
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:16:08 UTC No. 16366825
>>16366701
Yeah Elon knows it's all going to shit. Unfortunately there isn't enough time. Oh well, maybe I be part of his techno barbarian rapist gang.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:16:29 UTC No. 16366826
>>16366824
Skeptical. Bureaucracy is designed to outlast election cycles.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:17:59 UTC No. 16366827
>>16366824
Is the delay for flight 5 SpaceX being slow? Or is it purely FAA
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:19:38 UTC No. 16366831
>>16366826
executive orders can negate that though then congress can pass specific laws (in this case solely dedicated to slowing spacex)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:20:04 UTC No. 16366832
>>16366827
It is quite literally ESGniggers fault. Elon should hire a hitman to murder him.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:23:03 UTC No. 16366837
>>16366832
man even in the grimdark cyberpunk possible future we would have had a bunch of space shit simply from corpos hiring fixers to kill spastics
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:24:30 UTC No. 16366840
>>16366824
Yes.
>>16366826
Trump has several plans to purge those shitbirds.
>Hiring Elon to head DOGE (Department Of Government Efficiency)
>rolling randomized layoffs followed by rehiring the loyal competent ones who get snibbed
>pushing Congress to repeal civil service protections so straight bulk firing shitbirds is possible
Establishing permanent no-fly/no-sail zones above launch corridors would also be good for cadence, and require a major new Florida canal to provide inland water passage around the zone.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:25:23 UTC No. 16366842
>>16366840
>Trump has several plans to purge those shitbirds
Yeah he's going to drain the swamp for real this time lol lmao even
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:26:40 UTC No. 16366845
>>16366842
>lol lmao even
damn when you can tell it's all seethe and no joy. as expected from some twitter lefty
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:28:11 UTC No. 16366846
>>16366832
kek based
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:28:15 UTC No. 16366847
>>16366845
what's twitter?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:28:39 UTC No. 16366848
>>16366847
the place where you should fuck off
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:29:24 UTC No. 16366851
>>16366832
elon is a busy man. we here at /sfg/ should do him a favor and hire the hitman ourselves.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:29:33 UTC No. 16366852
>>16366845
I would love trump to take the axe to all this bullshit. However unlike you I remember his last 4 years of doing absolutely fuck all about it despite it being his primary election promise.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:29:45 UTC No. 16366853
>>16366832
>ESGHound
wait, so he won? lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:30:49 UTC No. 16366854
>>16366756
>2 more years
2 more week bros... its over
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:31:33 UTC No. 16366859
>>16366853
yeah though of course the biden admin was looking for all avenues to enact lawfare against elon so ESG just gave them one (uhhh you dumped clean water into the aquafer!!!!)
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:33:17 UTC No. 16366862
>>16366853
Yeah, he picked out one typo from a 99999 page document and some fucking journalist ran with it to spit out an article about SpaceX contaminating the site with mercury which made the FAA delay and redo the 25 launches a year permit.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:33:30 UTC No. 16366864
>>16366852
doomspiral away then buddy like you've done your whole life
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:33:49 UTC No. 16366865
>>16366842
Okay but I hope he does. I know it’s a dumb expectation, but consider the fact that (at least in my opinion) most if not all of the lawsuits thrown against him have been completely politically motivated.
He’s distancing himself completely from Project 2025, likely to appeal to moderates—but it is my deep desire that after a presumptive win he fucking knocks the towers of power down to its foundation. At the VERY LEAST: retribution firings, complete overhaul of departments, politically motivated career-ending moves for his enemies. Don’t know if he’ll do it but he should.
I wish he was half as based as his enemies make him out to be. The least he could do is actually ban any socialist, communist, or self-proclaimed progressive from office and issue a bunch of executive orders aiding his political allies such as Musk in doing whatever they want.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:33:56 UTC No. 16366866
Ph>>16365823
That lower right image is pretty good
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:34:53 UTC No. 16366868
>>16366864
Use real words
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:35:11 UTC No. 16366870
>>16366824
>assuming a DT win
>will we actually get to see a reduction, in any capacity whatsoever, of regulations in terms of SS launch licensing
50/50
but unironically, probably. Knowing Elon is buddy buddy openly with Trump now, I'm sure he would ask him for a few favors to clean up a bit on the regulation side, specifically in regards to Starship. Would be good for the whole industry, however.
Thats my microprofessional 4chink take
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:39:07 UTC No. 16366875
>>16366868
jews have this thing where they imagine a future event then their neuroticism brings up the worst possible future and they start kvetching all over the place about how everything is OVER. just like you are doing here it seems.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:39:08 UTC No. 16366876
>>16366859
>>16366862
That guy is unironically dangerous to the human race. What was his address again?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:43:57 UTC No. 16366882
>>16366875
Go back to /pol/
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:48:13 UTC No. 16366888
>>16366779
His fucking timeline is 2044 for a city on Mars. That's *somewhat* ambitious.
For comparison, it took the gay city of Boston 25 years to dig a hole and build a road on Earth.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:51:25 UTC No. 16366891
>>16366814
If I was in charge of the CIA's assassinations division it would be 100%
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:51:45 UTC No. 16366892
wait for page 10, for god's sake
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:56:24 UTC No. 16366896
>>16366887
How strange, I did a deep dive into combustion chamber designs a while ago, but this never came up.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:57:22 UTC No. 16366898
>>16366894
Clear for launch
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:59:13 UTC No. 16366901
>>16366896
wtf why not just do one nozzle? I didn’t even know this was possible
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:00:49 UTC No. 16366903
>>16366852
He had people in the first term that undermined him. Less likely to be the case this time around, now that it's very obvious who the loyal and competent people are.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:01:47 UTC No. 16366905
>>16366903
>Less likely to be the case this time around
retard
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:02:49 UTC No. 16366908
>>16366905
very informative post!
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:02:58 UTC No. 16366910
>>16366905
nta but you’re the dummy here
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:06:01 UTC No. 16366915
>>16366901
Expansion ratio. One big nozzle with the same expansion ratio would be too long for the lander legs.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:07:46 UTC No. 16366917
>>16366901
Doing just surface level digging into this, the reasoning behind it is so that the rocket plume exhaust minimally alters the martian landscape. Curious because the LEM descent engine famously barely made a dent on the lunar landscape, I always see moon landing deniers trying to use this point. But then again Mars has an atmosphere.
>I didn’t even know this was possible
single combustion chamber with multiple nozzles isnt unknown, was just surprised to see this many. Also the viking lander was monopropellant with a catalyst, so working with much much lower pressures.
>>16366915
Huh. Interesting
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:11:20 UTC No. 16366921
>>16366917
Yeah I figured it must have had something to do with a monopropellant and pressures to pull it off. I knew you could combine-cycle engines AFTER the fact, but I didn’t know you could combust your fuel and then just throw it out a bunch of nozzles at once
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:12:19 UTC No. 16366923
>>16366917
Most landers are height constrained and can't do big nozzle(s)+skirt like Starship and SuperHeavy do.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:13:55 UTC No. 16366925
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:18:22 UTC No. 16366932
>>16366925
This is only worthwhile if paired with kerolox LRBs for Maximum Throooooost and saving most of the hydrogen for the upper atmosphere or vacuum.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:20:44 UTC No. 16366933
>>16366923
Right, just surprised that they needed that high of an expansion ratio to get the performance they needed. What's the ratio on the viking?
>>16366925
lol thanks for the pic
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:22:00 UTC No. 16366936
>>16366717
Yeah he needs to drop this shit.
"Terminus" in isolation is an awful name for a city, like the end of the line, desperation, no hope.
In the autismo context of Foundation it's even worse.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:25:46 UTC No. 16366940
>>16366779
He's had to revise his timelines down massively because of the significant delays and push back he's seen regulatorily and the fact that the incoming admin is very hostile to him, ironically, in on part to his faggotry in pissing in the face of the potential president and vp candidate instead of trying to keep things civil.
There's also a possibility that he's a named unregistered foreign agent in the 2800 candidates in the DOJ indictment for Russian influencing via cash infusions into social media networks, and if that allegation is in fact true, then any timeline for a city on Mars is completely fucked forever.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:26:54 UTC No. 16366941
>>16366940
>US Citizen
>Unregistered foreign agent
What the fuck kind of fuck-fuck games are the Democrats trying at now?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:29:31 UTC No. 16366946
>>16366941
Per US law, whether you are a citizen of the country or not, if you lobby for another state in any capacity, you need to register with the US government to do so. Paul Manafort was charged as an unregistered Foreign Agent of Russia, because he for years took Russian cash via his lobbying gig and was involved in a lot of really shady shit, and because he failed to register with the US government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forei
FARA is serious business anon.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:30:49 UTC No. 16366950
>>16366941
There are plenty of people with US citizenship covertly working for foreign governments. Don't be fucking retarded anon.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:33:21 UTC No. 16366956
>>16366941
>>16366946
>>16366950
FARA is the ITAR of the lobbying or promoting the talking points of other governments of the political world. If you don't play by the book with it, the government WILL rat fuck you into the graveyards of history as the new immigrant dumb fuck of dumbfuckistan.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:33:36 UTC No. 16366957
>>16366950
the penalty for which should be death but isn't for some reason
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:33:48 UTC No. 16366958
>>16366940
>then any timeline for a city on Mars is completely fucked forever.
it's pretty incredible how an entire species comprised of 8 billion individuals and +100 countries doesn't give an absolute fuck about space or long-term survival, that we have to depend on a single man to do the job.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:35:18 UTC No. 16366959
OP here. Should I make a new thread...lol lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:35:44 UTC No. 16366963
>>16366940
>trying to keep things civil.
There was never any hope of "keeping things civil." Their idea of civility is absolute submission, or if they've decided that you're somehow evil, your complete destruction while you apologize for forcing them to do it to you. Tyrants don't abide competition and they see anyone who has any freedom not given out by the regime as a competitor. The State needs to be the alpha and omega at the center of everything.
That's also ignoring the fact that all of this "foreign agent" doesn't amount to anything more that bullshit lawfare that's only ever applied to people or groups the state wants taken out. It's fine if you're a member of the party in good standing.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:36:02 UTC No. 16366964
>>16366946
>>16366950
>>16366956
He repeated a talking point that came from a Russian news corporation. You're trying to tell me that they're saying this is equivalent to being a foreign agent and requires registration.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:38:01 UTC No. 16366970
>>16366757
>turn on anime about mars
>its just 1960s earth
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:39:17 UTC No. 16366975
>>16366959
no dont worry ill handle it. im pushing other threads so we get to page 10, then you or i could stage. your threads were fine.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:40:36 UTC No. 16366978
>>16366975
mentally fucking ill
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:40:39 UTC No. 16366979
>>16366958
Because aerospace is and always will be aspirational until it can be adequately quantified that the material and economic benefit to the population vastly exceeds the entry cost of achievement. Right now, it will cost anywhere from 1 to 10 trillion dollars to build a city on Mars based on the "always done this way" of government policy. Essentially a number greater than the combined GDP of the entire planet. So its viewed as a vanity project, because the cost and timelines of success, all outlive generational considerations of the majority of the living majority of the planet.
For example, California has spent 6 billion dollars and only built a 1600 ft section of a high speed rail bridge, and every report out of that state keeps pushing the budget projections towards $100Bn to build HSR in just California ALONE. There's 50 states in continental US. It's therefore fair to extrapolate that the relative cost of HSR across all of US of equivalence is 50 x 100 or 5Tn. That's 1/7th the national debt this year racked up. Just to build a new generation railroad.
People can wrap their head around that. So when you extrapolate out that its going to cost a 100x that to build a city on Mars, people in general will say "that's cool, but I ain't gonna fucking pay for it." Which is a reasonable position to hold.
SpaceX is a massive anomaly in the way society as a whole have operated. A proverbial lightning in the bottle. Tesla similarly. They're born of the same man, so in essence can be viewed as the same blob of thought. If you remove them from the equation, we're not getting a base on the Moon until 2050 and that's ambitious. Which means we won't actually get a base on the Moon till 2075.
Over 50% of the living majority on the planet Earth between the ages of 20 and 50 will be long dead before a base on the Moon materializes using conventional government policy and implementation behaviors.
So nobody gives a shit and honestly, can't blame anyone for it.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:40:47 UTC No. 16366980
>>16366975
>im pushing other threads so we get to page 10, then you or i could stage.
what is this mental illness? nothing is stopping you from making a new thread after the bump limit is reached, but instead you necrobump shit threads
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:41:03 UTC No. 16366982
>>16366975
>>16366959
also in relation to this, how would /sfg/ feel if i started making more 'space' related OPs and not as many current spaceflight news OPs? i feel like changing it up a bit idk. discuss more future spaceflight than current since right now current spaceflight is extremely boring, 2 more weeks type lul.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:41:09 UTC No. 16366983
>>16366756
inb4 lawsuits from (((environmentalists))) that spacex is "polluting" mars by crashing starships on the dead planet
inb4 the harris admin thinks they have legal grounds and sics the feds on spacex
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:43:06 UTC No. 16366987
>>16366979
>California has spent 6 billion dollars and only built a 1600 ft section of a high speed rail bridge
That's gross corruption, not the actual cost. Reminder that senator feinstein handed this project to her husband
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:43:58 UTC No. 16366993
>>16366964
Repeating it once or twice is one thing. Doing it over 82 times in a single day as Tim Poolio and his band of faggots got revealed to be FARA violators, shows a pattern of behavior far outside the allowed margin of error. I'm not saying that Elon is a FARA violator. But the DOJ stated that in their not fully sealed indictment, there are 2800 OTHER individuals who wittingly or unwittingly accepted cash from the Russian government to promote and lobby their interests without registering with the DOJ as a foreign agent. Thus, IF, he is a named individual in that massive list. All his aspirational goals go straight to hell, because the DoJ will not allow his faggotry to continue no matter how much benefit he provides to the country.
Potentially getting mixed up in a FARA violation while working with ITAR materials is the mother of all rat fucks, anon.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:44:38 UTC No. 16366995
>>16366980
>>16366978
you... do know that this has been stated before and been done for months right? you just reveal yourself as a newfag. if you dont like how /sfg/ operates at staging just dont involve yourself with it. do you use the rest of the board? you probably dont. so why do you care? its shit whatever happens, go out and check atleast 25% of this board is not science at all. staging at page 10 is tradition so we dont get assraped when janny bans us since newfags staging at bump limit after some time when early staging becomes normalized. we are the most active general on the board by a LONG shot and for that reason we need to self regulate and make sure we dont eat up so much of the catalogue in thread count. just wait like 10-15 minutes and we will be in a new thread and everything will continue as normal! think of it this way, try to hit 1000 posts for this thread before we get there. how about that?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:45:06 UTC No. 16366997
>>16366994
>>16366994
>>16366994
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
>>16366980
I was actually just joking around asking permission. This one is for the really mad people that I made a thread last time...lol
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:45:12 UTC No. 16366999
>>16366987
>>16366979
That's my fucking point anon. That's the DEFAULT SETTINGS OF THIS PLANET. Gross corruption commonly occurring. People have zero fucking faith that anything amazing will happen in their lifetime, because if you remove the one outlier dude who is trying to change the world, everybody else is doing everything conceivably possible, to rule over a fucking pile of ashes.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:46:12 UTC No. 16367002
>>16366993
Assuming the FARA and ITAR accusations are immediately valid is a ratfuck in and of itself.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:47:53 UTC No. 16367007
>>16367001
The mods can gladly delete my thread if they want. Of course a new one will be needed in like 14 posts anyway, so...
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:48:21 UTC No. 16367010
Clean it up jannies
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:48:21 UTC No. 16367011
>>16367002
I guess so. Elon in his conquest to "defeat the woke mind virus" appears to have forgotten that there are some basic rules in US law that you have to follow, and just because you changed the world with auto and aerospace and are the richest man in the world, doesn't mean you're safe from a government that's after your ass.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:48:31 UTC No. 16367013
>>16366997
Good. Jannies don't care if /sfg/ stage at page 9 or 10. They only care where someone deliberately split the thread, at which point it's WHOLLY on that person, not you.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:49:24 UTC No. 16367017
>>16367007
why not just stick to tradition and make a new thread at page 10? it seems unecessary and just provocation to do otherwise if you knew about the standard practice
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:50:01 UTC No. 16367019
>>16366993
>I'm not saying that Elon is a FARA violator
So, based on nothing, you're saying that if something disastrous happens to Elon, it would be disastrous for him.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:50:16 UTC No. 16367020
>>16366995
ive visited sfg on and off for years, i just dont live in any particular general because they all attract the worst kinds of people like you who want to control everything and create issues out of nothing
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:50:28 UTC No. 16367021
>>16366995
actual mental illness
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:50:40 UTC No. 16367022
>>16367013
Ehh page 9 is still splitting unless it’s a happening thread (such as imminent SS launching, Starliner undocking, etc.) or image limit is reached and it’s been stuck on pg 9 for a long time
Other than that it should be a b&
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:51:35 UTC No. 16367026
>>16366941
The very short version is that nothing the "intelligence community" leaks to the public can be verified; this is used to support claims of wrongdoing without actual evidence. Over the past few years it has become more and more common to see it in the news --- nearly always targeting the political enemies of the Democratic Party. To make this spaceflight related, the military and US intelligence needs SpaceX, but they think they don't need Elon, and so they are unsubtly reminding him they hold his leash.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:51:55 UTC No. 16367028
>>16367017
Only making it now because people threw an autistic fit about it. I'm not a newfag. Been on 4chan a very long time. Just spend my time making money on stocks more than other boards.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:52:27 UTC No. 16367030
>>16367020
Rules are rules kiddo, you can’t claim to only occasionally visit and then get mad at well-established precepts that everyone follows
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:52:39 UTC No. 16367031
>>16367011
This is the gayest ass take on the subject you could possibly have
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:52:42 UTC No. 16367034
>>16367028
well maybe chill out a bit anon
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:52:46 UTC No. 16367035
>>16366997
Staged as below the Karman line. Payload never made it to orbit. Anon is a faggot.
>>16367019
No, I'm saying that Elon's tweeting behavior was particularly panicked when Tim Pool got named as one of the potential peeps who accepted Russian cash. To the degree that he tweeted 82 times in a handful of hours along the exact same talking point. And now his personal lawyer is telling other conservative talk show hosts to STFU regarding anything related to the indictment. If he was removed from it, he wouldn't do anything to draw attention to himself in any relation to it. But he clearly can't seem to help himself, with the wagon he's hitched himself too. So ultimately, it probably doesn't matter if he is or isn't directly involved, because he seems to be going out of his way to involve himself.
All of which, has significantly damaging outcomes for his inspirational city on Mars goals.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:54:04 UTC No. 16367039
Won't somebody think about the poor jannies?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:55:31 UTC No. 16367044
Respect our flight proven heritage staging.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:55:58 UTC No. 16367045
>>16366979
>Essentially a number greater than the combined GDP of the entire planet.
Just one small correction anon, but the world's entire GDP (nominal) in 2024 is estimated to be at around 109 trillion USD approx, according to the IMF. Hell, the US alone is at 28 trillion. Spent throughout a decade or more, a 10-15 trillion USD Mars colony could be done if the US really, really wanted it, even if it's in the least efficient way, using SLS-derived architecture to supply a 15ish-people settlement. I know GDP is not exactly the money you have to ready to spend, but I'm using it here just as a metric to put things into perspective. Otherwise, you make a good argument, certainly SpaceX is an exception to the norm.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:56:32 UTC No. 16367048
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:57:38 UTC No. 16367050
>>16367019
>>16367035
You can't talk about building a city on Mars out of one side of your mouth, and from the other say things that make you public enemy number 1. You want the public on your side for this goal to succeed. But if the public loses faith in you, because they increasingly believe that you've lost the plot, then you're just a boy who cried wolf far too many times.
Aerospace is hyperniche to the broader socioeconomic engagements of the dailies across the planet. For it to not be niche, the audience needs to be able to reconcile that believing in something or someone is for the good of the cause, and if the guy who's at the forefront of it, keeps spewing incredibly divisive and sometimes hateful and other times conspiratorial garbage while claiming its parody or memes, but does it all the fucking time, then it degrades the incentive for the broader public to support this very mission.
Being an asshole doesn't win you friends. This rule is a trillion times more important in aerospace.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:57:38 UTC No. 16367051
>>16367035
If you don't have anything intelligent to say on a subject you should waste 150 words demonstrating that you're an idiot.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:57:57 UTC No. 16367052
I've got my finger on the trigger to post the new thread, once we hit page 10 here.
So no one else should even bother or try to beat me. You will lose.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:58:03 UTC No. 16367053
>>16367039
they never do shit here anyways. i dont care what happens atleast janny gets off his ass and starts cleaning up some of the rest of this dogshit whether it be inside or outside of /sfg/ this board is a mess when nobody moderates it.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:58:50 UTC No. 16367056
If jannies really want /sfg/ to only stage at page 10, this and plenty more /sfg/ would have been gone. This "rule" or "tradition" is just bullshit excuse by someone who wants to power trip but couldn't even become a janny.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:58:54 UTC No. 16367057
>>16367045
Fair. I stand corrected on my math.
>>16367051
>waah, I don't like hearing what I don't like
grow up
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:59:03 UTC No. 16367058
>>16367052
ah ok, was going to make one since i was pushing posts, but ill let you go for it, illl keep pushing threads though. thanks for the heads up anon, remember to include page 10 screenshot for this one to have legitimacy!!
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:00:02 UTC No. 16367061
>>16367052
Two steps, ahead. I’m always two steps ahead
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:00:21 UTC No. 16367063
The new thread is direct response to this as I said I would do. I had my fun. Won't make any more threads.
>>16364811
>>16364939
Anonymous !SFGFAGN2II at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:01:18 UTC No. 16367064
test
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:01:31 UTC No. 16367065
>>16367052
go for it now, newest thread would put us on page 10.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:02:13 UTC No. 16367067
>>16367056
Believe it or not they used to be really good about it. it then the /n/anon sabotaged the entire general for a while and they/the mods gave up and let him keep his wrong threads while nuking the good ones. Kind of marked the turning point of /sfg/ (along with the insufferable ARCAspammer)
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:02:40 UTC No. 16367069
>>16367065
Too late unless they want a split.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:03:29 UTC No. 16367072
>>16366940
>There's also a possibility that he's a named unregistered foreign agent in the 2800 candidates
Based on what?
On nothing?
What possible inducement could the Russians have the richest man in the world to Xeet their talking points?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:03:32 UTC No. 16367073
Hypothetically, if Earth got ejected or had its orbit expanded would it still be able to hold on to the moon?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:05:32 UTC No. 16367076
>>16367073
No, Jupiter would scatter it like it did the neptune-sized object they think got lost after the solar system's nebula condensed.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:07:28 UTC No. 16367080
>>16367076
Unacceptable. It is imperative that if and when Earth is migrated that the moon be retained in tow if possible.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:07:31 UTC No. 16367081
uhm, clear for staging?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:08:26 UTC No. 16367086
>>16367067
Believe or not, making yet another /sfg/ when there's already one that has proper link and respectable op is far more likely to attract actions from the jannies then staging at page 9. /sci/ is slow but not to the point where staging at page 9 makes multiple /sfg/ sitting at the bottom, while splitting absolutely would.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:08:42 UTC No. 16367087
>>16367081
Do it. Split the thread! You know you want to.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:08:43 UTC No. 16367088
>>16367081
was waiting for that other anon to bake but he never showed out. got 2 minute cooldown on thread posting but i got next, unless someone steps up between then
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:08:52 UTC No. 16367090
>>16367072
What possible inducement would the DOJ have to lie about any of this?
That's kinda the main point. All of this is based on allegations from a chronically untrustworthy agency, but the allegation alone was enough for them to FISA to communications of a huge list of content creators, as well as anyone who was in communication with them, and anyone who was in communication with those people. So if you talked to someone who talked to someone who talked to Tim Pool, who is apparently a Russian assent now, then the Feds can read all of your everything. Because terrorism.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:08:59 UTC No. 16367091
>>16367073
Nah, cause 3 body problem.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:09:33 UTC No. 16367093
>>16367090
>What possible inducement would the DOJ have to lie about any of this?
Have the DOJ alleged that Elon Musk is accused of violating the Act?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:09:34 UTC No. 16367095
>>16367043
so?
we just had a 1179 post thread stage nominally
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:10:27 UTC No. 16367099
>>16367086
Don’t complain to me I haven’t crafted a new thread in like 2 or 3 years at this point. Lost all desire to bake & stage, and make OC
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:10:56 UTC No. 16367101
Staging soon!
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:11:03 UTC No. 16367102
Don't stage, let sfg die
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:11:17 UTC No. 16367104
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:11:50 UTC No. 16367107
>>16367091
sophons can lick my ass
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:13:13 UTC No. 16367114
>>16367093
No anon, for fucks sake, how can you be this retarded? There are 2800 unnamed individuals in the not yet fully unsealed DOJ indictment. But there's enough behavior by Elon, that does not dissolve himself or disassociate himself from all the NAMED individuals from said indictment, that there's clear concern that he COULD be one of those unnamed individuals. This isn't hard to understand.
If, big but real if, Elon gets named as one of those 2800. All his future SpaceX and Mars plans go to hell.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:13:19 UTC No. 16367115
>>16367101
its been done already anon, you took too long.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:15:57 UTC No. 16367130
>>16366982
never make an OP again faggot
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:20:45 UTC No. 16367152
>>16367114
he will be forced to sell spacex to shotwell at 1 dollar, just like how they did the ukrainian guy at firefly dirty
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:27:47 UTC No. 16367175
>>16367130
Yeah didn't really care but now this stonks newfag is rapidly wearing out his welcome.
Has troon NPD energy.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:29:46 UTC No. 16367183
>>16367069
that's fine
Anonymous !STAGERPedI at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:35:21 UTC No. 16367208
Official /sfg/ threads will be made by me from now on.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:49:50 UTC No. 16367247
>>16367056
M8 fuck off
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 03:12:55 UTC No. 16367349
>>16366071
>>16366459
>>16366483
>>16366507
my fucking sides just reached the moon lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 03:19:58 UTC No. 16367361
>>16366701
>let's just make a city in another planet that no one will be able to reach if we go back to medieval tech, bro
>a city with no high/bleeding tech factories, btw!
hahahahaha
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 04:10:02 UTC No. 16367393
>>16367361
If Earthers ruin themselves and fall back into barbarism, I don't want them coming to Mars
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 04:11:49 UTC No. 16367396
>>16367393
if that happens, you won't survive either way
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 04:40:45 UTC No. 16367433
>>16367396
If I can survive between synods without Earth shipments, what exactly do I need them for in the first place?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 05:41:06 UTC No. 16367479
>>16367361
maybe you missed the "self-sustaining" part?
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 08:07:39 UTC No. 16367626
>>16367104
thanks for doing it properly
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 08:50:49 UTC No. 16367692
>>16366410
>US has giant inland freshwater lakes
>never use them for anything cool
What a shame