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Anonymous No. 16369583

Siphon Station Edition

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Anonymous No. 16369588

>>16369583
first for mattress

Anonymous No. 16369589

>inb4 why not a polaris OP
because it's probably getting delayed again lol.

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Anonymous No. 16369591

>>16369583
pop sci shit

post real spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16369592

>>16369589
Kek

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>>16369591
>post real spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16369600

Why do people still insist aerospike engine nozzles are a good idea? They have more mass than a bell, are harder to cool than a bell, and get worse isp at both vacuum and sea level than a bell nozzle.

Anonymous No. 16369604

>2026 MARS: Cargo
Create your list of initial starship cargo check lists.

My priority starts with energy security first.

>Solar panels (via Starship being upright and extending solar panels on sides)
>water extraction
>ISRU (gas energy)
>gas generator storage
>basic excavated shelters, either expandable habitat or 3D printed ones
>bunch of robots/drones that gather resources
>solid satellite communication points on the ground

Anonymous No. 16369608

>>16369591
>>16369599
The more I compare new vs old space, the more remarkable it is that I ever respected old space crap. Overcomplicated overengineered overdesigned nonsense.

Anonymous No. 16369611

>>16369600
People like novel ideas and aerospikes “look” more sci-fi. It is an easy pitfall to just assume that it eliminates the need for sea level/vac engines + a shorter profile as you can eliminate long bell nozzles [so it works for something like Stoke’s rocket that can’t fit bell bottoms] but people do not consider the HUGE downsides you mentioned.
Aerospikes are the hydromeme of engine design

Anonymous No. 16369612

>>16369591
trained response.
good goyim, do not believe in megastructures, they're impossible, never attempt them!

Anonymous No. 16369614

>>16369600
They improve specific impulse, not reduce it. Compare the J-2 with the XRS-2200, built around the same turbomachinery:
>J-2: 421s Vacuum, 200s Sea Level
XRS-2200: 439s Vacuum, 339s Sea Level

Anonymous No. 16369616

>>16369608
What else were we supposed to do? The ISS was designed in the late 80s and launched in the late 90s.

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Anonymous No. 16369617

>>16369608
Everyone works better when they have a clear and well understood mission they're working to achieve as quickly as possible.

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Anonymous No. 16369618

>>16369485
>can the fungal-like nanobot AI shaped like a cute girl alter my benis on a molecular level to be bigger while it's inside her?

Anonymous No. 16369620

>>16369608
the human mind can only create judgements based on the contrast it has available to it.
in contrast to absolutely nothing instead, oldspace was pretty cool.
in contrast to newspace however it's fucking lame.
a child that lives it's entire life underground in the darkness will think nothing of it unless he knows there is something more above him.

Anonymous No. 16369621

>>16369067
Isn't this the same guy who made the moon first video?
He does nothing but bitch about musk and his plans and he thinks anyone buys that he's not an EDS channel?

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Anonymous No. 16369622

IFT4 Q1 2025

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Anonymous No. 16369623

>>16369583
shitty picture

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Anonymous No. 16369625

It's happenning
>Verification not required.

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>>16369622
IFT-4 happened already

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Anonymous No. 16369629

>>16369623
Can someone edit him to have a gun

Anonymous No. 16369634

>>16369604
>2026 Mars Cargo

How many ships are we sending? I say if one can be sent a dozen can be sent.

>starlink constellation
>geos constellation
>bunch of solar powered battlebot style rovers with google street view software. These can be crowdsourced so they take a 360* view and the most clicked on destination is where they explore the next day once they charge up (inefficient but would generate excitement)
>hab mod with mouse utopia
>boring machine
>automated farm in a box
>metholox generators
>power generators
>shit ton of Optimus and dog robots
>science mod

Anonymous No. 16369635

>>16369617
An organization must have a jihad to motivate its workers and push them to a goal.
SpaceX has a jihad. The workers put in long hours with minimal pay toward a clear goal for love of the game. Managers and top brass keep the train moving and fix any problems as soon as they arise.
Blue Origin wants this but doesn’t have it—“millions of people living and working in space” is not the same as “we need a fully reusable TSTO to land humans on Mars and sustain them with cargo” a la SpaceX.
Modern Boeing (and every other oldspace corpo) surely don’t have a jihad aside from upper management playing politics to win cost+ contracts. “Shareholder value” is certainly NOT a motivator for the average worker.

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Anonymous No. 16369638

Why did they kill it? Not like they had an abundance of resupply craft.

Anonymous No. 16369639

>>16369638
It lives on through ESM

Anonymous No. 16369642

>>16369635
>you are now reminded of Dodge v Ford

Anonymous No. 16369644

>>16369600
The way stoke is doing it might make sense. 2nd stage reusability has a mass penalty either way

Anonymous No. 16369645

>>16369623
>cool gas giant mining OPS make him seethe.
what are you, black?

Anonymous No. 16369646

>>16369635
Peter Thiel talked in some interview recently (supposedly, didn't watch it) that the reason why Paypal mafia people are successful is due to three things he tried to instill in them (one of them which you mentioned, the jihad/mission/purpose)
>extreme bias for action
>cultish sense of purpose
>one thing at a time

not sure if these were something Thiel came up with himself or its something that he observed at paypal or some kind of culture they had which the paypal mafia have then taken with them (including Musk), but all of those seem pretty familiar
BO does 5 different random ass research projects at the same time, at least before Limp came in, they have or had no bias for action (could in fact be bias to inaction) and the sense of purpose seems pretty vague to me
make access to space cheap so we can have space entrepreneurs sometime in the next generation? ok, kind of vague
make life multiplanetary? now that is a pretty clear and ambitious goal

Anonymous No. 16369647

>>16369642
>Ford v Ferrari

Anonymous No. 16369648

Wen next flight?

Anonymous No. 16369649

>>16369642
Texas has corporate law which allows corporations to pursue things that are not purely about shareholder profits I'm pretty sure

Anonymous No. 16369650

>>16369648
two more weeks

Anonymous No. 16369655

>>16369583
Cool op, is this siphoning plasma from the sun or something??

Anonymous No. 16369656

https://youtu.be/oGWRURx8CGs?si=xMMrtD6IQRfrdbHo
Will this guy ever stop having terrible takes?

Anonymous No. 16369657

>>16369648
One more fortnight

Anonymous No. 16369658

>>16369649
>pursue shareholder profits
Doesn't that only apply to publicly traded companies?

Anonymous No. 16369660

>>16369656
why does everybody think that orbital refilling is going to be some extremely complex thing? Shelby subversion and mind virus?

Anonymous No. 16369663

>>16369660
Its the orbital docking 16x for one ship and in-space fluid transfer of hundreds of tons of propellant I bet.

Anonymous No. 16369664

>>16369663
orbital docking is a solved problem and IFT-3 demonstrated in-space fluid transfer from one tank to another

Anonymous No. 16369665

>>16369604
>2026 MARS: Cargo
>Create your list of initial starship cargo check lists.

General ISRU & Basic Manufacturing
>Machine that electrolyses molten oxides into metals including but not limited to iron, silicon, and aluminum
>Machine that grinds metals into powders
>Machine that 3D prints metal parts using powder feedstock
>Machine that prints with regolith
>Machine that melts basaltic regolith and extrudes it as fibers
>Machine that spins thread from basalt fibers
>Machine that weaves basalt fibers
>Machine that collects and compresses Martian air for fractional distillation & storage of 99% pure gasses
>Machine that digs up regolith, skidsteer sized
>Machine that screens regolith by particle size (Rocks can be crushed, gravel is good for roads, sand is good for shielding, dust is good for printing)

Power supply & Storage
>Modified TESLA megapack, weighs ~40T & holds ~4 MWh, peak discharge power of nearly 1MW
>remaining cargo mass in photovoltaics, with design focus on maximum generation per kg rather than per square meter

Propellant ISRU
>Machine that generates oxygen from CO2
>Cryocooler array to liquify synthesized oxygen & oxygen boiloff vapors
>Machine that collects water from ice-bearing regolith dug up by previously mentioned machine
>Machine that electrolyses water & performs Sabatier reaction
>Cryocoolers for methane

Return fuel
>Starships that carry methane for ensuring return capability on early crew missions, until local propellant production can keep up

Spare supplies
>Uncrewed Starship with habitat section stuffed with freeze-dried food supplies for added redundancy and added living volume for crew to inhabit

May be worth sending a closed cycle fuel cell for more expandable power storage. Need more storage? Add more volume to supply tanks. Easier than doing ISRU battery production.

Anonymous No. 16369666

>>16369655
No it's not cool! Space should not be cool
>space is dismantling a planet to fuel outward expansion
No! Space it when you spend two hours maneuvering a foam and cloth capsule the size of a tuk tuk

Anonymous No. 16369667

>>16369660
I think it's just people surmising that because it hasn't been done at scale before it must be extremely difficult.
They don't know the real reason is that a certain senator deliberately strangled the tech.

Anonymous No. 16369668

>>16369665
>return fuel
lmao
LE MAO EVEN

Anonymous No. 16369669

>>16369666
Very appropriate satan post.

Anonymous No. 16369670

>>16369656
Being a moon fag is how you can maintain an interest in space while also having EDS. I watched one of his videos recently and he was wrong about almost everything, by the facts. I'm not saying his opinion is wrong (it is), the facts themselves are wrong.

Anonymous No. 16369671

>>16369611
Reminder that Stoke doesn't call their thing an aerospike, just that having a million combustion chambers in a ring produces an "aerospike-like effect", and the reason it looks like that is to dual-purpose the engine coolant channels as heat shield coolant channels

Anonymous No. 16369672

>>16369665
You need a machine to sort the undifferentiated dirt into different metals. This is pretty troublesome because it doesn't exist yet. Everything after this step can damn never be stock, but for step one you have to invent this.
>>16369668
We're talking about trip one dummy

Anonymous No. 16369673

>>16369672
There's no return fuel for another 10 years because the people going there aren't planning on coming back. Unless its for NASA specific ones

Anonymous No. 16369674

>>16369604
Considering its a test mission if anything in 2026, send a test payload. Some rinky dink rover made by a college team or something for cheap just to prove that anyone can have their shit sent for cheap. That way its low stakes and you can still get some value out of a success. This is assuming only 1 flight is being sent there.

Anonymous No. 16369675

>>16369674
If its self-funded, Teslas will be along the ride. Tesla cars and Tesla bots. Possibly as collab with shared cost

Anonymous No. 16369676

>>16369614
Now compare the RS-2200 to the RS-25.
Note how the RS-2200 was planned to exceed the RS-25 vacuum Isp by only 3s, whereas the RS-25 actually exceeded the planned RS-2200 sea level Isp by 19s, *and* was much lighter than the RS-2200 was planned to be.
Also note how the real world performance of the XRS-2200 was significantly worse than what was initially thought was feasible. Aerospikes aren't good.

Anonymous No. 16369677

>>16369616
We were supposed to keep the Gemini program's spirit alive

Anonymous No. 16369678

Vaginal vs anal... but which one is SpaceX and Blue Origin?

Anonymous No. 16369679

>>16369673
My guess is the only way it happens is if NASA and the US government can take credit. Remember red dragon? The US can just say no. If colonization needs to be proceeded by a NASA style mission then that's a pretty small price to pay. As much as I'd like the first boots on Mars to be Isaacman moving there, I don't think that's how it'll go down.

Anonymous No. 16369680

>>16369670
The moon first video? Yeah it's really an amazing tour de force in poorly thought out arguments. Half the things he criticizes mars for apply equally well or moreso to the moon.

Anonymous No. 16369681

>>16369679
Starlink/Starship was specifically created so that they can be self-funded due to lessons learned from Red Dragon issue.

Anonymous No. 16369682

>>16369678
Very strange question anon.

Anonymous No. 16369683

>>16369681
We're on the same page here. My point is that the government can prevent them from launching at all, like they're doing right this second

Anonymous No. 16369684

>>16369620
It's worse, I had always been confused by the extreme cost and complexity of spaceflight but every source told me it was because space was just THAT HARSH on hardware, which also confused me because if space was so bad for tech then why do spacecraft manage flying with zero physical upkeep for decades?
I was told with such confidence that I had no choice but to accept it as reality, when I should have listened to my own thinking all along.

Anonymous No. 16369685

>>16369683
That depends entirely upon which government is in charge and how far theyre willing to stop SpaceX. The act of stopping SpaceX will incur a a very negative and strong penalty to the government and to the US itself.

First by not partnering with SpaceX and second by trying to slowdown/stop SpaceX for domestic politics. China wont have any qualms about it and instead will speed up their own efforts. Eventually DoD and the elites will either shit their own pants or they will line up behind Musk.

Anonymous No. 16369688

>>16369685
I admire your optimism but congress doesn't even know China has a space program. It isn't obvious to me they're even aware the Soviet Union has collapsed. I'm with you on the military to an extent. The air force and space force have an interest right now, but they're still being prevented from launching due to an infraction that ended up being worth a fine of $3700. All I'm saying is if mission one has NASA teir redundancy and that's the cost of a city I can move to in my lifetime, I'm fine

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Anonymous No. 16369689

>EVERYONE
What's your favorite planet/dwarf planet, moon, spaceflight company (not SpaceX we would all choose it), mission, probe, and rogget and why?

Anonymous No. 16369690

>>16369688
>congress doesn't even know China has a space program
lol dire but true

Anonymous No. 16369693

>>16369689
Venus, the Moon, Rockwell, Magellan, Magellan, Conestoga, BECAUSE THEY’RE BASED

Anonymous No. 16369695

>>16369644
Stoke's design makes sense because it's an actively cooled heat shield & an array of many combustion chambers that can be turned off to throttle very deeply for landing, not because of any aerospike effects.

Anonymous No. 16369697

>>16369645
Gas giant mining is cool but that concept art is too silly/unrealistic. It may as well be 1930's space cartoons with ray guns and babes in space suits. Actually I'd rather see the babes in space suits desu

Anonymous No. 16369698

Double penetration vs throatfucking... but which one is SpaceX and Blue Origin?

Anonymous No. 16369702

>>16369589
Is it ever gonna launch?

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Anonymous No. 16369707

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1833133480953475271

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Anonymous No. 16369708

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1833131753378099640

https://news.ntv.co.jp/n/fbs/category/life/fs582baa3c91184b8997a86dbc47dae23b

Anonymous No. 16369710

>>16369707
>they are so desperate they are trying to scam people using starlink
you see why i hate financels?

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Anonymous No. 16369711

>>16369708

Anonymous No. 16369714

>>16369710
probably just run of the mill scammers, crypto has attracted a lot of them

Anonymous No. 16369715

>>16369708
wow a starlink terminal did its job that it was guaranteed to do im so surprised. why make it about starlink and not about fucking telesurgery that seems a whole lot cooler dont it?

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Anonymous No. 16369719

https://x.com/zebulgar/status/1833135539203215462

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Anonymous No. 16369720

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1832960331737653692
Reminder that Polaris Dawn might fly tomorrow (lol, lmao even)

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Anonymous No. 16369721

>>16369720
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1832985581942379000

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Anonymous No. 16369724

https://x.com/Andercot/status/1833008120773406739

Anonymous No. 16369725

>>16369719
Ironically SpaceX only dropped launch costs for themselves. The lead time is two years too. The wider market is actually pretty much the same.

Anonymous No. 16369727

>>16369719
well ofcourse. starship would still be in its 'testing phase' and stilll mostly dedicated to Artemis at that point. prices also drop over time like falcon did with reusability as the systems are refined to be as efficient as possible. the more you launch the cheaper it gets, and we wont have launched many reusable starships by then that are dedicated to customer payloads. the final costs may be closer to $50/kg but as it stands now its going to be regular prices until then. F9 sits at about $2.7k per kg now so theres still reason to purchase F9 flights no? maybe im wrong about the price.

Anonymous No. 16369728

>>16369719
Just because it's that cheap for SpaceX doesn't mean it will be that cheap gor everyone. They'll need competition before there's any pressure to lower prices. I recall a spacenews opinion piece by someone with EDS that complained the extra margin was subsidizing SpaceX's other work. No shit

Anonymous No. 16369732

>>16369604
Send up a habitation module and man-capable rovers to test them on Mars
Send at least one Starship capable of returning to Earth and test it

Anonymous No. 16369733

>>16369727
>F9 sits at about $2.7k per kg now
It actually sits at about 1.1k$ per kg based off estimated internal costs for spacex.

Anonymous No. 16369735

>>16369728
>I recall a spacenews opinion piece by someone with EDS that complained the extra margin was subsidizing SpaceX's other work. No shit.
The EDS phenomenon truly deserves study. Imagine if someone started whining about paying for the profit margin on their car to fund R&D for future products?

Anonymous No. 16369738

>>16369656
what's the tl;dr on this? don't want to give elon obsessed youtube grifters a view. how exactly does he justify setting targets as a bad thing?

Anonymous No. 16369739

>>16369702
They had ONE opportunity and blew it because of a leak that didn't even affect Dragon.

Anonymous No. 16369740

>>16369665
This seems like a lot to do in two years. Is there any evidence that SpaceX is working on any of this, or even has employees who could be working on it, or a facility where they might be doing it?

Anonymous No. 16369741

>>16369728
Yeah its basically free money for SpaceX if their service is cheap for them but is still competitive against others.

Further there's the issue of anti-competitive behavior that could spell legal issue if they lower prices too much. Where they would be seen as killing businesses unreasonably.

>keep prices same
people complain
>lower prices
people complain

Anonymous No. 16369742

>>16369689
>Planet
Mars
>Moon
Phobos, I just can't wait to turn it into a gas station
>Spaceflight company
Whoever is newspace and make payloads, too many people trying to make launchers
>Mission
I think ADM would have been cool
>Probe
MMX (see Phobos) or Dragonfly
>Rogget
Starship

>>16369715
Telesurgery is old news

Anonymous No. 16369744

>>16369738
I listened to like 5 minutes and got bored, he didn't say why being ambitious is bad at that point yet

Anonymous No. 16369746

>>16369741
>Further there's the issue of anti-competitive behavior that could spell legal issue if they lower prices too much. Where they would be seen as killing businesses unreasonably.
Unfortunately I can already see a politically motivated administration using antitrust authorities on SpaceX because of Starlink and their market dominance in other aspects. Basically Musk is getting punished... for innovating in ways that other companies can't match.

Anonymous No. 16369747

Okay, the sun is about half a degree in the sky, which means an object behind the sun would be hidden for about half a day, longer if the object is orbiting in the same direction as Earth.

Does this mean Mars has occasional communication blackouts to Earth of more than 12 hours?

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Anonymous No. 16369748

>>16369742
>newspace and payload
Not sure if Redwire is newspace but they got some pretty cool satellites.

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Anonymous No. 16369749

>>16369738
I think his pinned comment is the summary.

Anonymous No. 16369750

>>16369678
>a lot of fucking around without creating anything
>an affront to God
Blue Origin is clearly anal sex

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Anonymous No. 16369751

>>16369748
This ones my favorite from them its called Sabresat which is a fucking metal name. I changed my mind though since I didnt consider it but Vast is my favorite overall, Redwire is my favorite satellite creator.

Anonymous No. 16369752

>>16369746
Politics is about power dynamics and not about anything else. The hard truth that people will learn if they dig deep enough and understand how it works. Peel off all the goody two shoes and thats whats left.

Anonymous No. 16369753

>>16369749
Ah yes the classic "SpaceX employees are doing good work but Elon is ruining it" passive aggressiveness, what is wrong with these people

Anonymous No. 16369754

>>16369733
>most expensive way to ship on Earth is express air freight from US to China for $8
>shipping to space is 140x the cost
Mars bros....

Anonymous No. 16369755

>>16369741
they will have to lower prices at some point if they want to drive demand up anyway regardless if the competition gets some booster reuse going
perhaps in the short term (5 years) SpaceX is going to be busy enough with the testing campaign, HLS, Starlinks and preparing for Mars Cargo and Mars Crew that they don't need to drive demand due to unused starship launch capability

Anonymous No. 16369756

>>16369755
They'll drive down prices as they aim to scale up while also having more than enough launches to surpass their own Starlink launch needs.

Remember, 30K sats.

Anonymous No. 16369757

>>16369754
lol, try sending something next day am
you can't send a postcard to the next city over for $8

Anonymous No. 16369758

>>16369749
that doesn't explain anything
it just takes "unrealistic expectations is bad" as a given which I'm not sure I agree with even if we assume crew in 4 years would be completely impossible (its not)

Anonymous No. 16369759

>>16369755
>lower prices at some point if they want to drive demand up
Demand is already higher than supply with starlink. A custom F9 launch has a two year lead time

Anonymous No. 16369762

>>16369757
We're talking about SpaceX's internal costs. If they kept the same margin as UPS next day I'm sure it would be worse

Anonymous No. 16369764

>>16369758
Being poorly thought out is kinda that guys M O. Just watch his moon video if you want a taste of his reasoning abilities.

Anonymous No. 16369766

>>16369747
The blackout takes about two weeks
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-blackout-solar-conjunction-2021

Anonymous No. 16369773

>>16369747
>>16369766
we need to set up some relay satellites.

Anonymous No. 16369776

>>16369773
Yeah if a relay only costs one starship then there's no reason not to put one into every Earth and Mars lagrange point

Anonymous No. 16369777

I wonder if morons ever stumble in to these threads and cant understand a single thing we say

Anonymous No. 16369779

>>16369719
>>16369725
>>16369728
>>16369741
The competition should be thanking SpaceX for not charging as little as they could and making them even more cost uncompetitive. Instead SpaceX employs the enhanced profit margins to fund Starship development.

>>16369746
Funny how ULA was never subjected to this legal rationale but SpaceX probably would be.

Anonymous No. 16369782

>>16369779
>Funny how ULA was never subjected to this legal rationale but SpaceX probably would be.
Yep, and in fact the media is already agitating for it.
https://www.thesling.org/the-antitrust-case-against-spacex/

Anonymous No. 16369785

>>16369782
>[Beck] and other industry executives said they were convinced that SpaceX had set the price for its Transporter service — where small satellite companies can book slots on a Falcon 9 launch — with the explicit goal of undermining the financial plans of emerging competitors. Transporter’s low price — initially $5,000 per kilogram — was below what some industry executives calculated was SpaceX’s basic cost. They concluded that SpaceX could only offer such a low price by subsiding those flights with some of its government contracting revenue.
What a load of shit. I honestly want to see this go to trail just so these snakes can eat shit when spacex reveals the actual numbers.

Anonymous No. 16369786

>>16369782
>>16369785
kind of hilarious that jeff bezos of all people is testing the waters for crushing spacex with an antitrust suit

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Anonymous No. 16369790

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt2uho5n3ZA
>Starship To MARS in 2 YEARS? | Starbase Update

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>>16369785
>>16369786
>>16369782
Bunch of horse shit from fuckers that cant compete competitively.

F9 nominally is $2500/kg and ride share is ~$5000/kg or something. SpaceX is more profitable on rideshare than on mass launch.

Anonymous No. 16369794

>>16369663
Docking is easy. There's little difference in challenge between transferring one kilogram of propellant and transferring 1000 tonnes of propellant.

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Anonymous No. 16369795

Reposting cool shit from the vault.

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Anonymous No. 16369798

Magnetic shield at Mars L1
https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/news/how-to-give-mars-an-atmosphere-maybe/

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Anonymous No. 16369801

I still want to know if this is possible or not.

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Anonymous No. 16369803

>>16369798
Wouldnt this magnet need to be absurdly strong and impractically large. I feel like you would just be giving Mars a 3rd moon at that point. Let me read this one second.

Anonymous No. 16369804

>>16369672
>You need a machine to sort the undifferentiated dirt into different metals.
Not at all, you melt the soil and apply voltage to two electrodes, and at varying voltages you electrolyse different oxides. Iron oxide breaks down before the others, so even if your ore is only 10% iron by weight your single step refining process will net you almost pure iron.
We already have this tech working and demonstrated on Earth.

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Anonymous No. 16369807

Airbus station, that was a cool project to do a writeup on here.

Anonymous No. 16369809

>>16369673
SpaceX will have a return flight option for the first missions. They are not stupid, they know that the pool of people who are willing to go live the rest of their lives in a pioneer Mars settlement is extremely tiny compared to the pool of people who would be willing to go live and work on Mars for one or two sinodes.

All talk of "Mars is a one way trip" comes from that Mars One scam back in the early 2010s. Elon has made statements referring to "possible one way trip" as a more polite way of saying "astronauts who apply need to understand that they may fucking die trying to do this".

Anonymous No. 16369811

>>16369674
They'll likely send at least two Starships, set to arrive weeks apart, so that if attempt 1 fails they still have a chance to try again with patched software rather than waste a sinode and need to fly more uncrewed tests.

Anonymous No. 16369813

>>16369809
Dumb. The resources needed to get refuel from ISRU would take all up energy the resources for the next 4-6 years of the base. It becomes completely pointless at that point.

The first people going there would have to be staying there permanently. And I think there are quite a few dozen or so that can pay for it and have the will for them to not only stay there but help build out the colony for the future generations.

Anonymous No. 16369814

>>16369678
SpaceX is vaginal. Clean, feels the best, produces life, very straightforward, basically zero preparation needed, and isn't riddled with AIDS.

Anonymous No. 16369815

>>>>16369803
>In the future, they say, it is quite possible that an inflatable structure can generate a magnetic dipole field at a level of perhaps 1 or 2 Tesla (a unit that measures the strength of a magnetic field) as an active shield against the solar wind. In the simulation, the magnetic field is about 1.6 times strong than that of Earth.
1-2 tesla just seems... wrong for something that is supposed to maintain a planetary shield. I dont know maybe Im the brainlet but something isnt adding up there. SOMETHING has to make this impractical.

Anonymous No. 16369816

>>16369679
>Remember red dragon? The US can just say no.
They said no to procuring RD, under threat of shutting SpaceX out of other contract opportunities.
Starlink will soon be netting SpaceX more profit than NASA's entire annual budget. This has obvious implications.

Anonymous No. 16369817

>>16369794
Not really, for 1kg, just use some kind of bladder and you're good. It becomes really impractical with 1000 tonnes.

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Anonymous No. 16369818

>>16369795
cool graphic but actually europa's oceans look more like this.

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Anonymous No. 16369823

>>16369795
>>16369818
has anyone here watched the movie Europa Report?

Anonymous No. 16369824

>>16369815
Tesla is a weird unit (magnetic fields are weird in general)

Anonymous No. 16369825

>>16369823
Yep.

Anonymous No. 16369827

>>16369689
>What's your favorite planet/dwarf planet, moon, spaceflight company (not SpaceX we would all choose it), mission, probe, and rogget and why?
>Earth best planet (we live here)
>Ceres best dwarf planet (most relevant to near future space industrialization)
>Moon is best moon (see Ceres rationalization)
>SpaceX (they literally revolutionized the space industry and all of the best competitors are just emulating SpaceX anyway)
>SpaceX's mission to build a sustainable settlement on Mars
>Cassini was goated
>Falcon 9 has given the entire launch industry a swift kick right up the ass (Starship will be my favorite as soon as it starts launching regularly)

Anonymous No. 16369828

>>16369817
Anon, they already have pumps capable of moving tons of propellant in the engines, they just need to do it slower and drive it electrically.

Anonymous No. 16369829

>>16369795
You got the Project Lyra gif? Someone asked for it yesterday and I didn't have it to post.

Anonymous No. 16369830

>>16369815
You don't need a particularly strong field it just needs to be big enough such that the inverse squared field strength is sufficient at the required radius from the source. Something like 40μT to be comperable with Earth.

Anonymous No. 16369831

>>16369723
Octopuses live in water so the same energy limits don't really apply to them

Anonymous No. 16369832

>>16369719
>thinks cost and price are the same thing
dumbass

Anonymous No. 16369834

Now that the dust has settled, was the starship water deluge system in violation of the EPA?

Anonymous No. 16369835

>>16369834
no

Anonymous No. 16369836

>>16369740
Most of these machines can be extremely simple. These aren't NASA probes, they are working machines attended by humans who can troubleshoot, repair, and modify equipment as needed, if needed.

Anonymous No. 16369837

>>16369824
Is that 1-2 Tesla maintained all the way out to the edge of the field or to the core? Like how strong is this feckin thing they dont say enough

Anonymous No. 16369839

>>16369834
The dust has not settled. And no

Anonymous No. 16369840

>>16369777
In an ideal world we'd never know, because newfags would remember they should use google to ask basic questions about spaceflight rather than ask autists who have obsessively studied spaceflight for years

Anonymous No. 16369842

>>16369834
The water deluge system aids greatly in dust reduction, the dust settles quickly.

Anonymous No. 16369844

>>16369827
This is the most basic, predictable and safest list I've ever seen. Where is your imagination? I also said not SpaceX, do you just not look at anything but SpaceX? There are allot of interesting projects in the industry. Colonization is of course the most important thing there is right now but expand your horizons man, the boom brung by SpaceX allows allot of cool stuff to come in tow.

Anonymous No. 16369847

>>16369834
I don't know, why don't we ask an expert on the matter?
https://x.com/ESGhound

Anonymous No. 16369848

>>16369828
The problem is that in zero-g the propellant isn't going to settle nicely in the bottom of your tank. The obvious solution is using thrusters during the transfer, but that won't give you a lot of g.
I don't doubt SpaceX will succeed, but it's probably not a walk in the park either.

Anonymous No. 16369850

>>16369848
Piston drive the tanks. Push on one side for pressure pull on the other for vacuum.

Anonymous No. 16369852

>>16369777
the first time I came here the general was talking about old french rockets and engine cycles and I had no idea what any of it meant so I left and didn't come back for several months.

Anonymous No. 16369853

>>16369777
>>16369852
kek

Anonymous No. 16369855

>>16369852
me personally i was just instnatly hooked even though i didnt understand much of it at the time, i was spoonfed the answers and resources on everything since i asked nicely and stated i was a newfag upfront. ive observed that not many people take that path for whatever reason, if you truly want to learn stuff in /sfg/ thats the best way to do it imo instead of just waiting for things to randomly show up or pretend like you understand everything.

Anonymous No. 16369858

>>16369813
>Dumb. The resources needed to get refuel from ISRU would take all up energy the resources for the next 4-6 years of the base.
Wrong. Only need to make oxygen at first since we're delivering the methane until ISRU is up, and we only need tp refill one or two Starships per sinode. A single Starship can deliver a battery capable of storing 4 megawatt-hours with a solar array capable of generating tens of megawatts. This one power supply alone can already generate enough power to refill one Starship LOX tank in much less than one sinodic period, even though it can only work for around 10 hours a day. Send 4 of these Starships and you can refill one Starship with all ISRU LOX & methane per sinode, with enough energy leftover to keep dozens of people alive AND producing industrial materials & components for growing the base on the side.

Early missions being dominated by the need to set up ISRU propellant is worth the over 1000x increase in the interested labor pool size, and the domination of ISRU needs wanes dramatically as the base grows. After primary resource production and propellant production, the next industries to develop on Mars are probably photovoltaics and energy storage. Photovoltaics are obvious, and require a decent vacuum chamber for producing the panels in a simple process, but energy storage may be move tricky. My guess is they'll build vacuum flywheels for simple energy storage in the early days, since all of the components involved will be relatively easy to produce in-situ.

Anonymous No. 16369859

>>16369840
but the autists give better info thats more digestable than google and tearing through research papers just to understand one concept. its also more fun to interact with real people and learn that way instead of a search engine. also not every question asked is basic if you want to understand what we talk about in here. i think newfags should ask questions if they have any, it atleast provides discussion and if theyre upfront about it i dont see why not. unless its like the most basic question of 'what gravity does the moon have'

Anonymous No. 16369860

>>16369855
I just skim over Wikipedia for space and spaceflight related matters and then come to this thread and pretend I'm an expert in everything.

Anonymous No. 16369861

>>16369860
wikipedia is generally a pretty good source if youre just gonna regurgitate answers but its best to really understand whats going on. rather than just know what to say. thats why i like asking here about things i dont know much about since people can actually answer specifics that i dont understand.

Anonymous No. 16369864

should i start linking starship update videos by NSF here? these are the high quality ones with commentary not the boring no commentary daily ones.

Anonymous No. 16369866

>>16369815
Like penises, the size of a magnetic field matters more than the intensity. To get a magnet with a surface strength of a tesla or two is very easy, but we need a magnet that will still be a few microtesla a thousand kilometers away from its surface, which would imply an insane magnetic field strength at the surface if the magnet stayed small.
Thus, what we actually need is an enormously wide electromagnet that produces a few tesla at the surface of the coil, as the massive size of the coil creates a similarly massive field, because something something inverse cube law.
Also, since the giant magnetic field is deflecting solar wind, which has momentum, what you're actually building is a giant magnetic sail, and as a result you must actively balance the thrust force of plasma ramming into your magnetic field with the Sun's gravity, via a counterweight and throttling of the magnetic field strength. It'd be a constant delicate balance.

Anonymous No. 16369869

>>16369642
Literally no true Scotsman fallacy, the lawsuit.
If you want to change a company as a shareholder then exercise your vote, otherwise piss off.

Anonymous No. 16369870

>>16369817
>bladders
Not compatible with cryogenic fluids.
We've transferred cryogens on orbit without a bladder. There's no reason to think doing the exact same thing on a larger scale will not work. Low head pumps are very simple and well understood.

Literally the only issues with prop transfer have always been seals and settling. Seals must prevent significant leakage during transfers, ideally zero but hey a kilo here and there isn't the end of the world. Settling the propellants can be done with slow acceleration (even a few cm/s works), either propulsively with little thrusters or rotationally by spinning about an axis. Both have little challenge to them.

Anonymous No. 16369875

>>16369656
I watched the first 30 seconds, this kid is gay. Clearly his brain is not devwloped as well. His voice is nerdy and gay

Anonymous No. 16369878

>>16369844
>This is the most basic, predictable and safest list I've ever seen.
It's predictable when there are obvious best answers to a question, sure.
>Where is your imagination?
Thinking about all the feats of engineering we'll achieve using those objects as our low hanging fruit targets & how one company is making it all possible
>I also said not SpaceX, do you just not look at anything but SpaceX?
Every space company is trying to be SpaceX now, and none of them are as good at it than SpaceX. Also, most new space companies owe their existence directly to SpaceX's success. I'm aware you said no SpaceX, but that discounts basically everyone who isn't pockockmoc, the euros, or boing (they all suck).
>There are allot of interesting projects in the industry.
None of them are my favorite, and they're all tiny compared to Mars colonization, both in terms of actual scope & scale and in terms of forcing progress in the industry.
>Colonization is of course the most important thing there is right now but expand your horizons man, the boom brung by SpaceX allows allot of cool stuff to come in tow.
SpaceX is my favorite and their mission is my favorite because without SpaceX & their mission NONE of those others would exist. Are you old enough to have been a spaceflight fan in the 2000s and 2010s? We owe everything to SpaceX and the few at NASA who actually fought to help commercial space. Everything.

Anonymous No. 16369879

>>16369848
You don't need much g to settle tanks. ULA did experimentation and found that less than 1/100th of one g was still enough to settle propellants almost immediately.

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Anonymous No. 16369881

>>16369875
Yeah they hire fags on there, they have this guy I think running some of the cams and writing scripts, but still the info is good to have and can start discussions. Youre not gonna stop using google because they hire fags unless youre some insane politicel

Anonymous No. 16369884

>>16369741
Lowering prices only triggers lawsuits if the price is below cost for the company.
If the price is still above operating cost then it’s fair game.

Ironically, Amazon’s entire existence has basically been operating entirely at or slightly below cost.
So if anything it’s blorgin that’s getting funded by anti-competitive tactics.

Anonymous No. 16369885

>>16369850
Gas piston, use differential ullage to push fluids across, like flushing a toilet.
>>16369859
Newfags ask questions like "what do you mean when you say electric rocket", which changes what was intended to be a discussion around the capabilities and uses of electric propulsion spacecraft into intro to spaceflight 101.
Like talking about girls with the lads at 17 and your 11 year old brother is in the same room trying to be part of the conversation.

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Anonymous No. 16369887

>>16369878
>everyone is trying to be spacex
can you say that to satellite developers that were active before starlink and in different businesses than providing internet? can you say that to commercial space station companies? can you say that to asteroid mining companies (8v&oe theyre a meme)? can you say that to extraterran ground operations developers?

Anonymous No. 16369890

>>16369855
Yeah that's the thing, if you earnestly ask a question then half a dozen autists will each spend 10 minutes answering it and their day will be better for it. Not recognizing that you're uninformed and claiming Starship can't land on the moon or you need nuclear thermal propulsion before you can go to Mars or something gets a different reaction

Anonymous No. 16369891

>>16369885
>what do you mean when you say electric rocket
i asked that question to argue semantics because it was funny :^)

Anonymous No. 16369893

>>16369891
also it was propulsion not rocket

Anonymous No. 16369901

>>16369881
Not NSF retard

Anonymous No. 16369903

>>16369656
by terrible do you mean correct?

Anonymous No. 16369904

>>16369901
Looking at the high ranking job names, such as eglartarinist for leader of population, and there are further ranks higher I can't currently sense. The 'prototypical actor', is in the highest rank, something like osprodosenctor, but thats not the actual word. Just letting you know there are some high ranking more complex versions of jobs. I'm the prototypical actor, and I was thinking about being something to do with population(as it includes world design, head artist is in the name).

Anonymous No. 16369905

>>16369901
stop pontificating.

Anonymous No. 16369906

>>16369904
Competition is possible on 1, but who knows how long it will take. There are a variety of different valid competitors if the product (1) is a prototype.

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Anonymous No. 16369907

Holy shit these people are fucked in the head

Anonymous No. 16369908

>>16369903
No, no I don't.

Anonymous No. 16369910

>>16369907
What demands do these people expect musk to make of nasa?
They sure like to be vague in their concerns.

Anonymous No. 16369911

>>16369907
I wish people were capable of taking a true thing, in this case: musk says dumb things on X, and not extrapolating into false things, in this case: musk handles very little of spacex's business.

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Anonymous No. 16369912

>>16369901
Retarded nigger kys

Anonymous No. 16369915

>>16369908
ok. hands off now. Youre a fucking retard and this whole sub is laughing at you.

Anonymous No. 16369917

We did it reddit

Anonymous No. 16369918

>>16369904
>>16369905
>>16369912
The gay video I was commenting on is not NSF retard

Anonymous No. 16369919

>>16369915
Lmao

Anonymous No. 16369920

>>16369907
>he's never done <made up thing> before so we should <x> so he doesn't do <made up thing> he's never done

Anonymous No. 16369921

>>16369887
Yes, I can.

Anonymous No. 16369923

nsf bad

Anonymous No. 16369925

>>16369915
>sub

Anonymous No. 16369926

>>16369923
I like their camera angles on starbase more than labpadre's

Anonymous No. 16369927

nasa soi flight

Anonymous No. 16369928

>>16369891
>>16369893
>I was only pretending to be retarded
Fuck you.

Anonymous No. 16369929

>>16369927
Yes they are soi but if you arent watching their cam angles for everything except IFTs then youre missing out.

Anonymous No. 16369931

>>16369929
I do like their cameras except when I hear people talking or I'm forced to watch some space shuttle shit when I just want to check conditions at CC/KSC

Anonymous No. 16369933

>>16369875
>this kid is gay. Clearly his brain is not devwloped as well. His voice is nerdy and gay
So he would fit here perfectly

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Anonymous No. 16369938

>>16369935
A wild overestimation of the permanence of african birthrates.

Anonymous No. 16369941

>>16369933
Correct, I do ;)

Anonymous No. 16369945

>>16369599
God the new buildings are ugly soulless shit, they should have just built larger tents

Anonymous No. 16369946

>>16369941
You are not that scrawny twig and we all know it

Anonymous No. 16369947

>>16369935
Post the Starship slave variant

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Anonymous No. 16369948

>>16369935
Mars is an apartheid state

>>16369945
Wrong

Anonymous No. 16369949

>>16369945
You can't just put several tents together and call it a factory, it's not that easy.

Anonymous No. 16369950

>>16369910
> What demands do these people expect musk to make of nasa?

Exclusivity in human launch. >50% of non human mass to orbit. Launch sites at Cape Canaveral.

Anonymous No. 16369951

>>16369949
>its not that easy in factoryry

Anonymous No. 16369952

>>16369950
>Launch sites at Cape Canaveral
There are vacancies

Anonymous No. 16369953

>>16369950
>Exclusivity in human launch.
Why would musk want this and if he does why has he yet to demand it?
>50% of non human mass to orbit
lol as if he has to demand this.
>Launch sites at Cape Canaveral.
Spacex already has launch sites at cape canaveral

Anonymous No. 16369956

>>16369831
the point is that on earth there are fucktons of tetrapods: animals evolved from a particular kind of fish
the aliens will not be evolved from that particular kind of fish
that being the case an argument needs to be made that they would have a tetrapod body plan (non-tetrapods on Earth generally do not) and then you'd still need to argue that two of the limbs would be arms with hands (most tetrapods on Earth do not have arms or hands)

Anonymous No. 16369957

>>16369935
>unironically thinks the best argument against muh raycism is population projections from early 21st century for 24th century
>doesnt consider the idea that most people dont even want to go to space
>doesnt consider that a global population would be doing this and not just africans
>doesnt consider that it would likely be those NOT on earth using starship
why this stupid argument? there are so mant holes to poke in this that it would be exhausting to do so. if anything he is a racist for thinking only africans would be in space for this and not anyone else.

Anonymous No. 16369960

>>16369953
BO (and by extension EDS sufferers) are still seething that SpaceX got exclusive use of the historic LC-39A complex while they underbid and were too faggoty to even bid for exclusive use. A stark contrast of mentality between the two.

Anonymous No. 16369961

>>16369836
the first batch of shit going in 2026 needs to operate autonomously

Anonymous No. 16369965

>>16369618
still waiting for the Dungeon Meshi images to roll in...

Anonymous No. 16369966

>>16369965
Stop....

Anonymous No. 16369968

>>16369957
Wait til he finds out the human brain is still growing and evolving and that it’s happening at a faster rate outside of Africa than within.

Anonymous No. 16369970

>>16369961
Or just remotely.

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Anonymous No. 16369973

SORTIE CAN

Anonymous No. 16369974

Huh. With all the methods being used to delay spacex I think the same sort of people will also try to delay a future space elevator (environmental reasons?). Could mars see one before earth?

Anonymous No. 16369977

>>16369866
>via a counterweight and throttling of the magnetic field strength. It'd be a constant delicate balance.
are thrusters not the conventional solution to this sort of problem?

Anonymous No. 16369978

>>16369785
the competitor in this case is Rocketlab, Beck keeps whining about this in every interview

Anonymous No. 16369979

>>16369978
oh you did say Beck explicitly lol

Anonymous No. 16369980

>>16369970
Fair, although operating remotely with minutes of lag is not easy either

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Anonymous No. 16369981

>>16369974
>Could mars see one before earth?
Yes. The lesser gravity means you can make it with plausible near-future materials and there's a giant extinct volcano on the equator. There also isn't (yet) satellite megaconstellations around it to impact your megastructure.

Anonymous No. 16369982

>>16369864
can you edit out their faggoty voices?

Anonymous No. 16369983

>>16369981
Q from James Bond, but with a piece

Anonymous No. 16369984

>>16369869
That's not a real no true Scotsman fallacy.

Anonymous No. 16369985

>>16369984
>>16369983
And if you need one, ask me for about 7 on the sides

Anonymous No. 16369987

>>16369984
kek

Anonymous No. 16369988

>>16369987
Me game. Me film. Me music. Me artwork.

Anonymous No. 16369993

>>16369864
>no commentary daily ones.
But those are the good ones? Are you brain damaged?

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OK I see this thread is doomed

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Anonymous No. 16370002

>>16369915
I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast

Anonymous No. 16370003

>>16369997
tag yourself I'm auxiliary power and networks

Anonymous No. 16370004

>>16370002
:| if you knew how retarded I was you'd probably cause a paradox to occur where all other retards died because the concept was interjected 'how can they be retarded', ',they're not like him'.

Anonymous No. 16370005

>chopsticks successfully catch super heavy
>tower wobbles so badly the entire thing collapses
It's so fucking over.

Anonymous No. 16370006

>>16369935
I hate these fucking birth rate extrapolating retards
It isn't as if as birth rates decline there won't be additional incentives to have more children.
Tax rates will be even lower for families with children, more resources will be spent per child on education, each child will have more access to better teachers and universities, etc
The danger isn't that we will eventually have no children. It's that only worthless niggers and foreign invaders will have children.

Anonymous No. 16370008

>>16369935
what the fuck

Anonymous No. 16370009

>>16369935
I don't think they're people at all

Anonymous No. 16370010

>>16369950
>no one got the joke
autistic ass hobby

Anonymous No. 16370012

>>16369974
there's already little reason to build a space elevator on earth
it's a nice idea, but incredibly impractical when you have working alternatives

Anonymous No. 16370013

>>16370005
>super heavy falls off the chopsticks
>clangs off the tower and lands on the orbital tank farm exploding
>the ensuing shockwave knocks people down and breaks all glass for 100 miles
It will be over

Anonymous No. 16370014

>>16370012
Ah a fellow tethered space ring launcher believer

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Anonymous No. 16370015

hey guys I just invented a space elevator for use on the moon. what do you think?

Anonymous No. 16370017

>>16370010
I suppose actors using business as a brand and means of making money, have rules, and limit themselves. Businessman seems to be unlimited when used as a title, like it doesn't matter what businesses you put together or whether or not your manhood matters where the business is concerned. In a different sense, a man associated with business, but not title, it's fine. You can make this cut when deciding what job you want in whatever letters you want to put it in, but technically it is a poor cut.

Anonymous No. 16370018

>>16370002
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?

Anonymous No. 16370020

>>16369961
No it doesn't, those can wait for people to show up to operate them. They aren't mission critical because the first crew missions will involve sending the return fuel from Earth.

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Anonymous No. 16370022

Some of you (not many) may visit my lunar treehouse

Anonymous No. 16370026

>>16370022
>using oak instead of redwood for this example
He had one job

Anonymous No. 16370028

>>16370022
Okay now do Mars

Anonymous No. 16370029

>>16369977
No, thrusters cannot do that task because they would run out of propellant in hours & require constant resupply forever. On the contrary, by placing a counterweight beyond the Mars-Sun L1 point and varying the current flowing through the magnetic loop, the push from the solar wind can be counterbalanced with zero need for propellant.

Anonymous No. 16370030

>>16370022
>>16370020
>>16370018
fags

Anonymous No. 16370031

>>16369693
Could they have turned a profit with private Conestoga?

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Anonymous No. 16370033

>>16370026
That would be *too* tall
>>16370028
just cut the numbers in half

Anonymous No. 16370035

>>16370033
Thanks bro

Anonymous No. 16370036

>>16370006
Incentives don't work very well for increasing birth rates actually, the only working policy for increasing birth rates that exists so far is whatever Mongolia is doing

Anonymous No. 16370039

When is the drop test supposed to happen? I've been hearing about it for what feels like weeks.

Anonymous No. 16370041

>>16369890
>you need nuclear thermal propulsion before you can go to Mars

you need nuclear thrust propulsion before you can go to Mars
it would shorten the length of the trip significantly, which is important for radiation exposure

NASA and DARPA both agree on this point
Musk thinks it's a good idea too, he just wants to used direct injection because the government insists on doing the development of the system themselves and won't let him get involved

which puts the timeframe for a mission outside his control and in the hands of bootlickers
that's the only reason

if Musk could develop that technology further than he already has, he would
they just won't let him try because "muh nuclear", "muh government regulations", "muh you want to put nuclear material on a rocket that will scare other countries"

any long term mission on Mars will *require* nuclear powered facilities, you need absurd amounts of power to create propellant in situ like Musk's plan
so you can't get around the need for a set of reactors in space anyways

Anonymous No. 16370042

How is the weather looking for tomorrow?

Anonymous No. 16370043

>>16370041
All wrong, we've gone over this.

Anonymous No. 16370044

>>16369935
wow its rare to see someone say something so stupid it is completely wrong in multiple levels

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Anonymous No. 16370046

>>16370036
just restrict contraception to mothers who already have 3 or more kids
>muh freedom
get out of the 20th century stupid

Anonymous No. 16370047

>>16370042
50% chance of

Anonymous No. 16370051

>>16370043
okay random anon
you're smarter than NASA and DARPA
Musk is on record saying NTP is better for in-space transit
cool story bro

Anonymous No. 16370052

>>16370046
Didn't doing that make Romania have a schizo meltdown?

Anonymous No. 16370053

>>16370043
Just don't even bother lol, a dozen anons spent an entire thread telling him he's wrong

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>>16370022
>genetically engineered moon trees to filter radiation and maintain a pressurized volume

Anonymous No. 16370056

>>16370043
Ignore him. He will post about airship next.

Anonymous No. 16370057

>>16370047
If they don't launch the hurricane is going to cuck them, right?

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>>16370055
>self repairing lunar ecosystem with no mechanical parts

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Anonymous No. 16370060

>>16370059
We should do this!

Anonymous No. 16370061

>>16370055
I like this idea better than the air mattress

Anonymous No. 16370062

>>16370053
just because the government is shit and is preventing technology from advancing and political hacks are attacking SpaceX for no reason doesn't mean you have to pretend that the technology is pointless or unnecessary

it very clearly is not poinless or else von Braun wouldn't have forwarded his own NTP project

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Anonymous No. 16370064

>>16370055
>>16370059
>>16370060
What would terminal velocity be on the Moon assuming 1 atm pressure? Could you dive into water from any height and survive?

Anonymous No. 16370066

>>16370056
none of you have a plan to deal with the extremely fine and even aerosolized martian dust, or the electrical interference those storms create

Anonymous No. 16370069

>>16369634
The problem with any projection for any mars colony is that we literally don't have like, any of the required technology in mass production. We could probably ramp up solar panels and hydroponics since there's already production for it, but ISRU units, hab modules, methlox generators. Who makes this shit at the moment? And at a scale to support a mars colony? Mars shit is going to be another decade before we get any of this shit online at least.

Anonymous No. 16370072

>>16369982
Mute the video dork

Anonymous No. 16370073

>>16370061
Unfortunately air mattress (which is also posted by me once a day) already exists while genetically designed organisms do not.
>>16370064
I did the math on this once and though I forget the result I remember it being disappointing. Due to structural concerns your air pressure would probably be much less than 1atm as well

Anonymous No. 16370074

>>16369971
Uni is loafing :3
>>16370062
I wonder if von Braun died a doomer. Obviously he got to see the pinnacle of human achievement (of which he was ze architect) but his whole life was a slow yet steady rise to grandeur—in Germany he was limited by supplies, upon escaping to America he had limitless options and resources and money, especially once Apollo started. But then to see Apollo/Skylab die and Shuttle get tossed in the wood chipper with compromises and Mars pretty much shelved permanently for political reasons… must have been such a blackpill to take to the grave.

Anonymous No. 16370075

what kind of government and state apparatus should the martian colonists institute

should they be totally independent from Earth
what happens if a government from Earth tries to invade Mars and do a hostile takeover of the facilites

is the Mars mission going to need weapons

Anonymous No. 16370076

>>16370069
Hab modules will be sacrificial tipped over wet workshop Starships for a while.

Anonymous No. 16370077

>>16370075
not within the scope of /sfg/ really, more of a page 9 topic. I’ll circle back to you later

Anonymous No. 16370078

>>16370000
Checked

Anonymous No. 16370079

>>16370076
That could work, but do we have any data backing up that a starship hab module can make it over there and still be livable enough to house people? People really don't like to take a gamble on shit like that when you just die if it doesn't work.

Anonymous No. 16370080

>>16370075
fuck off ntp fag

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Anonymous No. 16370082

>>16370074
Disgusting niggertroon kys colon three user.

Anonymous No. 16370083

>>16369665
3d printed metals and powder based metals have a ton of processing beyond just printing them, and are way more likely to harbor defects like being overly pourus and not as strong as traditionally casted materials.

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Anonymous No. 16370085

>>16370075
Corporatocracy. No contest.

Anonymous No. 16370086

I know the Hohmann transfer window is literally the only time we ever go to Mars but how bad is it really to go outside of it? How much further out can we extend the window before it becomes pointless?

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Anonymous No. 16370088

How can planetcucks even compete?

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>>16370086
Transfer window?

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>>16370055
>looks interesting
>look up title from filename
>same author as Blame
how does he do it

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370093

>>16370088
You cant if a dyson array exists. IF. Until then planethads will be flopping our cocks on dysonxisters.

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Anonymous No. 16370097

Remember Elons dishonest advertising? And you want us to buy his new Mars timeline?
lolno

Anonymous No. 16370098

>>16370088 #
You cant if a dyson array exists. IF. Until then dysonxisters will have to grovel at planethads feet for power.

Anonymous No. 16370099

>>16370086
https://trajbrowser.arc.nasa.gov/traj_browser.php?maxMag=25&maxOCC=0&chk_target_list=on&target_list=Mars&mission_class=oneway&mission_type=rendezvous&LD1=2024&LD2=2026&maxDT=10&DTunit=yrs&maxDV=15&min=DV&wdw_width=-1&submit=Search#a_load_results

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Anonymous No. 16370101

>>16369622
>>16369626
stupid frogposter

Anonymous No. 16370102

>>16370090
>get halfway up to speed
>cable under tension breaks
>ring shatters
>now traveling at 3% the speed of light with no recourse

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Anonymous No. 16370104

>>16370101
Go away /sfg/ was better without you.

Anonymous No. 16370106

>>16369678
Starship literally farts out methane

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>>16370093
>>16370098
>wellniggers bix nooding in fear
as they should

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Anonymous No. 16370110

x.com/spacex

>Flight 5 of Starship Super Heavy will splash down in the Gulf of Mexico after structural testing verification of the Chopsticks and Tower One

Anonymous No. 16370111

stupid fucking gey NPC get

kys now

Anonymous No. 16370112

>>16370106
>erm akshually methane doeshnt shmell like brapsh, itsh the hydrogenh shulfide

Anonymous No. 16370113

>>16370099
>venus flyby
>arrives at mars orbit
>mars isn't there
>have to come back later
kek

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370114

>>16370110
OH SHIT GTFIH EVERYONE

Anonymous No. 16370115

>>16370102
backup pusher plate to switch into emergency Orion mode. You can easily spare the added mass

Anonymous No. 16370116

>>16370069
We have two years m8. All he needs to do is demonstrate reentry and lending and say we’re a go for Mars who wants in? The starship factory can produce as many ships as groups exist who want to send up experiments on the initial run. I’m not suggesting a full colony of worth of infrastructure. Just whatever projects people want to try. The cargo bay is what, 8 shipping containers? Send up a wire guided boring machine and see what you can make it do through remote control. Just put the call out for who wants to send stuff to try.

Anonymous No. 16370117

>>16370085
each corporation has their own internal regs and officers, the system that would have to be pioneered on Mars would have to be unique

I have my doubts about the usefulness of voting when it comes to a martian environment.
But what kind of body then is going to make executive decisions, author binding legistlation, and adjudicate disputes?

Anonymous No. 16370119

>>16370114
>>16370110
AHHH IT WAS FAKE I GOT BAITED FUCK YOU

Anonymous No. 16370121

>>16370115
That's actually a really good answer

Anonymous No. 16370122

>>16370116
In my humble opinion:
Next mars transfer window is a ton of tests.

The following transfer window is cargo, supplies, pre-loading the surface with everything needed.

Three windows from now will be humans. The first human landing attempt can be done the previous window but it would be flags-and-footprints. A long stay, yes, but nothing planned to be sustainable or permanent. Just a “arrive, set foot, say some words, wait until you can leave”

Anonymous No. 16370123

>>16370013
it's like watching white people use chopsticks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZuB6FQez0M

Anonymous No. 16370124

>>16370122
Seems reasonable.

Anonymous No. 16370125

>>16370110
next time include an x link to krystal porn

Anonymous No. 16370126

>>16370020
if it can wait for people, why did you fucking sending it in 2026 ahead of everything else that needs to get tested?
gay retard answers only

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370127

>>16370123
It is yt ppl using chopsticks, dumb crackas cant do shit without black power

Anonymous No. 16370129

>>16370015
it's very nice, Jeff

Anonymous No. 16370131

>>16370117
>it's another authoritarian state will work off earth fag
Humans are the same on Earth and Mars. Human systems will work the same on either body. Implementing systems based on your supposition will result in as much disaster as doing so already has on Earth.

Anonymous No. 16370132

>>16370036
don't let women divorce or work outside the home
simple as

Anonymous No. 16370134

>>16370132
Or vote, and yes extremely based. Not even in a sexist way. This is simply how it should be

Anonymous No. 16370138

>>16370125
Hawaiian scum

Anonymous No. 16370140

>>16370051
you misunderstood Elon, what he said was NTP for in-space transit is better than NTP for launch services

Anonymous No. 16370143

>>16370104
I never left

Anonymous No. 16370144

>>16370140
>NTP for launch services
Nigga what

Anonymous No. 16370145

>>16370144
Elon was responding to some REALLY retarded people that day
this should not surprise you

Anonymous No. 16370147

>>16370069
>solar panels
We're currently deploying an acre of solar every 12 seconds. Mars would not impact this industry at all.
>hydroponics
Several companies including Kimbal Musk's Square Roots are working on hydroponics. Hydroponics isn't really a problem anyway, people don't eat that much food by mass.
>hab modules
We're landing entire apartment buildings on the surface
>methlox generators
A couple companies are working on methane generators and liquid oxygen can be produced as a byproduct
>ISRU
This is the one that's a problem. No one has a way of separating undifferentiated Martian dirt into it's constituent elements. Once you have this you can implement Earth standard machinery and build a self sustaining city but you need that first step.

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Anonymous No. 16370148

New Pressure Fed just dropped... and he wasn't kind to IFT-4 (spacex fanboys don't watch this)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9FRUResvlo

Anonymous No. 16370151

we need little robots that can clean the dust out of hard to reach places
the more I think about the dust problem the more I consider it to be the single most intransigent environmental difficulty facing any long term mission

maybe you could implement some kind of sonic vibration tech to shake the dust off
but the martian atmosphere is so thin that it wouldn't be very useful in any kind of projective form outside

>>16370131
I'm not saying it needs to be authoritarian, though that's not the worst option.
There's no reason why democracy is the best option, in fact that's almost guaranteed to create interpersonal problems between the colonists.

The difference between the psychology of Mars colonists and their Earth counterparts is impossible to qualify right now.
We can already see the pitfalls of democracy on Earth. It splits people into blocs, creates serious divisions in society.
That's existentially dangerous on Mars.

You can't just have people going on strike either. That endangers everyone.
Having everyone vote on every little decision that has to be made is going to end badly, because everyone has different specializations and won't have the best opinion on anything that is outside their wheelhouse.
Which creates a rapid regression to the mean effect on the quality of work. Whereas ideally you want the person who is most qualified with their system making decisions relating to it.

There should be some kind of ruling council. Total power can't be allowed to accumulate in the hands of an individual.
Maybe a form of limited representative democracy would work, but that has the aformentioned psychological problems with encouraging power struggles.

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Anonymous No. 16370152

>cringe faggot youtuber drama
I don't care, let's talk about M.O.O.S.E. instead
when is Red Bull going to sponsor me to test this?

Anonymous No. 16370155

>>16370079
You misunderstand, it's a dedicated uncrewed wet workshop Starship that gets tipped over and filled with stuff from other cargo Starships on arrival.

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Anonymous No. 16370160

>>16370156
get new material, you're reposting shit from literally the previous thread that we've all already seen

Anonymous No. 16370161

>>16370069
We squashed this bug a few threads ago marstard. 99% of the work is the launcher and the logistics and SpaceX are figuring that out right now. Once Starship can get orbital, land, and deliver cargo to the Martian surface [almost] everything is trivial.
The only two issues are:
a) Power generation. Worst case scenario it’s purely solar. Which would suck. But Musk is sort of anticipating that at this point. It will take a LOT of solar panels to keep the lights on, power “industrial” work, and power ISRU. Which leads me to my next point…
b) In-situ resource utilization. We know how to do it. The chemistry and tech is well understood. But we don’t ever bother doing it to-scale here on Earth because it’s easier to pump LNG out of the ground. Trying to ISRU enough fuel and oxidizer for even just one Starship to return to Earth will be, annoying. Not impossible but annoying and will likely come with headaches before we get good at doing it effectively and in large quantities.
But don’t be mistaken these are not insurmountable things. As I said earlier the hardest part of the equation is getting a huge rocket that can launch often, in great numbers, take a ton of cargo to mars, and can deliver humans to mars. Guess who’s working on that and succeeding right now? SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16370162

>>16370160
Nta but you should stop being such a tight ass about on topic stuff

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Anonymous No. 16370164

the hardest part is going to be getting this contraption out of an airlock, I think
>>16370162
faggot

Anonymous No. 16370168

>>16370160
;c

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Anonymous No. 16370169

we should import as many earthers to mars as possible.
my reasoning is beyond your comprehension.

Anonymous No. 16370170

>>16370161
NTA

Solar panels are going to be basically non-functional during a planet wide dust storm. The same dust makes them a bitch to clean off too.
You need a nuclear reactor for power generation.

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Anonymous No. 16370171

>>16370168
is this you

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Anonymous No. 16370175

>>16370171
A cheap imitation. Pathetic.

Anonymous No. 16370176

>>16370151
>ntp fag knows how to design the perfect government
can you PLEASE stop posting your opinion in these threads man, you don't know fucking ANYTHING

Anonymous No. 16370180

>>16370104
stupid frogposter

Anonymous No. 16370181

>>16369956
>the aliens will not be evolved from that particular kind of fish
If they were insects or something, would they evolve intelligence? You have to consider what kind of failure of a creature would even end up brainmaxxing and relying on artificial equipment, instead of just biting things to death like they've always done. Or what kind of climate and environment even promotes that as a survival strategy over just about anything else. Other apes are still doing fine chilling in the woods chewing grass or eating the occasional small animal, humans just seem like a giant fluke even in this tiny family of animals. The brain also consumes an enormous amount of energy, so at some point all those extra limbs of an octopus or spider thing would be a chokepoint for further brain growth. Or if they were getting plenty of energy, there would be no pressure to become more clever, like with those other apes

>then you'd still need to argue that two of the limbs would be arms with hands
That just seems reasonable if the things build tools. Would suck building computers with just a beak or four legs. Having fine motor control for fingers has been a trade-off in raw strength due to changes in muscle structure. A chimp can't do fine movements with its hands like humans, but they can climb with ease since their muscles are good for explosive strenght rather than fine movements. The more you spec those limbs into tinkering with stuff, the less useful they end up for moving around. Then you kinda just end up with two noodle arms

Anonymous No. 16370182

>>16370155
>tipped over
>complex and risky maneuver to reduce usable volume
why would you do that

Anonymous No. 16370185

>>16370176
stick it up your ass little rocket man

if you don't care about and have no plan to mitigate martian weather you have NO buisness even talking about this subject in the first place

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Anonymous No. 16370188

1 million starlink terminals from bastrop, tx

Anonymous No. 16370189

>>16370041
NTP does not shorten a trip to Mars, it makes it so your craft will need less propellant mass

Anonymous No. 16370190

>>16370170
dust storms do not reduce solar irradiance by that much, they only turn direct solar irradiance into indirect solar irradiance via scattering
as long as you're using solar photovoltaics instead of solar thermal with mirrors you'll be fine, and in the absolute worst dust storms when the sky gets dark you'll just turn off the water electrolyser (which is like 90% of base power consumption)
>>16370175
>Apu version: 2021-05-25
>Cirno FumoFumo version: 2021-07-31
interesting

Anonymous No. 16370191

>>16370188
https://x.com/Starlink/status/1833213876135203265

Anonymous No. 16370192

If Mars had colonies and military bases all over the planet, do you know how laughably easy it would be to defend against outsiders? You could shoot down any misiles or landing craft with ease by just taking their trajectory and intercepting. Its already been proven that asteroid redirection is possible and you can also intercept probes on their way to redirect an asteroid. Many colonies could also be made in underground lava tubes. You could also reinforce a location from anywhere around the planet if they dont have a beachhead and fully surround them. Escape is impossible and communications between Earth and Mars take far longer than Mars to Mars, leaving home base with a significant advantage if on site leadership is strikes or assassinated. It is even easier to defend than the US.

Anonymous No. 16370194

Is SpaceX allowed to bring RTGs to Mars?

Anonymous No. 16370195

>>16370188
Gonna need a whole lot more. Chop chop!

Anonymous No. 16370196

>>16370194
no but NASA might
also RTGs will not provide enough power to run the electrolyzer and thus nobody cares

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Anonymous No. 16370199

>>16370185
>Martian weather
Not my problem

Anonymous No. 16370200

>>16370170
I implied nuclear / nuclear+solar was the better option in my post. And dust storms aren’t going to kill off a solar-only settlement. As I said: the real problem is the sheer amount of panels you need. Think of too many panels, and then add even more panels to that. And you still have a power deficit! It’s going to take a retarded amount of panels [if you aren’t using nuclear] [[because of stupid regulations]] [[[but there will probably be nuclear because NASA is gonna want in on it]]]
>>16370194
Literally no point how would an RTG be at all useful except for warming your hands lol

Anonymous No. 16370203

>>16370192
ALSO ALSO the Hohmann transfer window has a set time so you know when to expect attacks if there are any coming. Good lord now that I think about it there are so many advantages that a united Martian state would have in defense.

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Anonymous No. 16370204

>>16370199
>dust collects in dimples
I think it is your problem

Anonymous No. 16370205

>>16370196
Might be useful if dust ever covers the solar panels and you have no other way to keep the lights on

Anonymous No. 16370206

>>16370199
What is this thing

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Anonymous No. 16370208

>Mars will be a dominant military power in the system
The Expanse and its consequences have been a disaster etc.

Anonymous No. 16370210

>>16370057
I just realized the launch tonight is from Florida and I am retarded

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Anonymous No. 16370211

>>16370205
I volunteer for the dangerous and difficult talk of blowing dust off of the solar panels

Anonymous No. 16370213

>>16370210
lol were you thinking it was Texas??

Anonymous No. 16370214

>>16369719
oh no, $4k to $8k per kg, the horror
i remember 20 years ago when people were thinking $10k per kg was only going to be a scifi dream in our lifetimes

Anonymous No. 16370215

>>16370190
>as long as you're using solar photovoltaics instead of solar thermal with mirrors you'll be fine, and in the absolute worst dust storms when the sky gets dark you'll just turn off the water electrolyser (which is like 90% of base power consumption)

Why not park solar satellite panels in orbit and wirelessly transfer the energy they produce to the base via microwave or lazer?
Does the martian atmosphere not allow it?

I like the idea of utilizing low-energy nuclear reactions to create electricity and transmute elements.

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Anonymous No. 16370217

>>16370170
looks like your argument just got... wiped out

Anonymous No. 16370218

>>16370208
It will though. Think about all the advantages there is. Venus is an uncolonizable hell hole and Mercury has absolutely nothing. The outerplanets have multiple moons they can set up bases on and launch attacks from no matter what, and Ceres has too low gravity plus multiple other planitesimals they can still set up in like Vesta.
Mars is the only one of any planets other than Earth that is well suited for interplanetary defense. It is the gateway to the outer solar system and is close enough for trade but also far enough for ease of military response to threats and the ability for isolationism.

Anonymous No. 16370219

>>16370215
Why do you feel the need to throw out every dumb idea that comes into your mind in to the midst of the thread, and reddit space while you do it?

Anonymous No. 16370221

>>16370215
because the microwave receiver you need to collect that power is bigger than the solar panels you need to replace them lol
also the government won't let you because it's a superweapon

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Anonymous No. 16370224

>>16370211
>>16370217
>Oh? You're approaching me?

Anonymous No. 16370225

>>16370217
Nissan, Sentra, 2017

Anonymous No. 16370226

>>16370218
And obviously Phobos and Deimos would already have been colonized and held at that point but if they do capture one of the moons you can just nuke it to shit if necessary.

Anonymous No. 16370227

>>16370181
>I feel like they'll probably have two arms
thanks, very helpful

Anonymous No. 16370230

>>16370151
>we need little robots that can clean the dust out of hard to reach places
just hire some space mexican janitors/maids

Anonymous No. 16370231

>>16370195
Billions must enjoy high speed, low cost satellite internet

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>>16370224

Anonymous No. 16370234

>>16370194
Someone should set up a breeder reactor and nuclear centrifuge facility in space (ideally past LEO) or on Mars so colonists can get fissile material for RTGs/reactors (and self-defense nukes) without Earthoid governments intervening.

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>>16370224
anon please

Anonymous No. 16370237

>>16370213
I stopped watching Falcon9s so I forgot anything other than Starbase exists

>>16370226
I kinda hope they land on Phobos the same year they do on Mars. Technically it would only be a little extra delta v considering it has almost zero mass right? Starship's size and delta v keeps growing so I don't see how they couldn't send one if they really wanted to

Anonymous No. 16370238

>>16370217
>rubbing fine abrasives around on your solar panels

hmm yes what a splended idea

Anonymous No. 16370240

>>16370236
>australian
>female
>undergrad
thanks, I will give this the attention it deserves

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Anonymous No. 16370241

>>16370227
I feel that I extrapolated why they would have two arms. It just makes sense when you think about it. And considering there are millions and millions of species on Earth but none of them are close to human level, intelligence doesn't seem like something that just inevitably happens

Anonymous No. 16370242

>>16370234
You’d be squeezed to death here on Earth (blockade and stoppage of launchings for resupplies) or, your nuclear breeding facility would simply be blown up by glowies and mossad

Anonymous No. 16370243

>>16370236
>we eventually found out through lengthy research you can just hold a magnet over the panels and they go away lol
So this is where all the tax dollars go huh

Anonymous No. 16370244

>>16369604
don't forget the frozen pizzas and hot pockets

Anonymous No. 16370245

>>16370240
anon a retarded female australian undergrad was able to solve this issue, think about how easy it must be

Anonymous No. 16370246

>>16370240
to be fair many australian woman are very manly

Anonymous No. 16370247

>>16370244
Tyrell-Wallace Corporation space gf

Anonymous No. 16370248

>>16370217
dude the dust is literally too fine and sticky from the static to use even tiny windshield wipers
and how do you wipe the wipers when the dust settles in their joints

>>16370221
LENR is a superweapon now?
Dude people have been making these devices on their own in small teams for a long time now.

>the government won't let you
fuck them that shit would make life way easier on Mars and on Earth

Anonymous No. 16370249

>>16370238
>focusing only on the MOST retarded option in order to discredit your opposition

Anonymous No. 16370250

>>16369604
A giant windmill

I know it wouldn't do anything it I just think it would be cool if they put one there. For science

Anonymous No. 16370251

>>16370242
Hmm you're right
and asteroids have very little uranium so that's not a feasible possibility.
I suppose the only other option is to make fusion net positive, or find a way to smuggle lots of fissile material into space.

Anonymous No. 16370252

>>16370251
thorium breeder

Anonymous No. 16370253

>>16370204
Fleet of vacuum drones running 24.5/7
>>16370206
Newfag

Anonymous No. 16370254

>>16370219
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKE

qq autist

Anonymous No. 16370256

>>16370253
What is it though.

Anonymous No. 16370257

>>16370252
Thorium has the same issue as uranium more or less
I guess Mars will have to stick with solar panels and maybe wind turbines

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Anonymous No. 16370258

https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1833215801194680566
HLS AIRLOCK SPOTTED

Anonymous No. 16370261

>>16370253
vacuum won't work, ambient air pressure is too low, you need positive pressure blowdown
combine that with some electrostatic wand or magnet or whatever and it'll solve your problem
>>16370257
wind turbines don't work very well on Mars, due to aforementioned low air pressure
>>16370257
you do not know that, because we haven't done any prospecting on Mars and the current data already suggests Thorium has been concentrated by water action on Mars

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Anonymous No. 16370262

>>16370226
>if they do capture one of the moons you can just nuke it to shit if necessary.
Enjoy the Kessler effect on steroids confining Martians within their atmosphere

Anonymous No. 16370263

>>16370254
Newfag. Space energy is literally half a century out of date. You'd know that if you didn't show up two days ago
>>16370256
Here
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/domes-are-very-over-rated/

Anonymous No. 16370264

>>16370261
just fly your drones low over whatever and the propwash will blow it off.

Anonymous No. 16370267

Why is everyone obsessed with muh mars, fuck off!!! I want to get in with a company doing manufacturing on the moon and get to work there, maybe have moon sex with a qt azn girl at the same company. Just develop the fucking moon first damn it.

Anonymous No. 16370268

>>16370267
por que no los dos??

Anonymous No. 16370269

>>16370262
>muh kessler!!! muh environment!!!
Shut up fag youre overblowing that theory. You want one better then? Scatter a bunch of radioactive waste all over the surface. There, and as retaliation for trying to take sovereign Martian property, sling the moons at Urf with this waste on board. Or just use Phobos/Deimos as nuclear dumping grounds in the first place so nobody ever gets the bright idea to land there.
>>16370267
Shut up newfig you dont belong.

Anonymous No. 16370270

>>16370267
Fuck off kyplanet

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Anonymous No. 16370271

>>16370195

Anonymous No. 16370272

>>16370271
This looks identical to Starfactory

Anonymous No. 16370273

>>16370267
I don't hate Luna but it is too close to Earthoids for comfort. We need to go to the furthest feasible habitable celestial body, i.e. Mars.

>manufacturing on the moon
Probably won't even happen unless you meant to imply that you will be manufacturing goods to be used on the moon. Shipping goods out of a gravity well will probably never be profitable and the only reason Earth will be shipping manufactured goods to other bodies is simply to help those other bodies become self-sufficient.
Most likely almost all manufacturing will be done in massive space stations where you won't need an absurd amount of delta-v to transport it to another body.

You know what your job on the moon is going to be? Cleaning moon dust off of everything. And moon sex will be strictly outlawed.

Anonymous No. 16370274

>>16370272
Yeah, same fucking company

Anonymous No. 16370275

>>16370273
what’s Luna?

Anonymous No. 16370276

>>16370273
>moon sex will be strictly outlawed
Based, fuck earth and its subsidiaries.

Anonymous No. 16370277

>>16370273
We need to get to the galilean moons

Anonymous No. 16370280

>>16370273
>no moon sex
Space is fucking cancelled. What's the fucking point?

Anonymous No. 16370282

>>16370274
I didn't know they would be making everything in the same factory, that sounds kind of retarded

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>>16370275
>being this new
Get out.

Anonymous No. 16370284

>>16370269
how much debris will be in mars orbit if you nuke a moon you dummy? escape velocity is 10 m/s

Anonymous No. 16370285

>>16370283
Luna? You mean the Moon? No one calls it Luna but larpers and newfags (you)!

Anonymous No. 16370286

>>16370285
it's called Luna

Anonymous No. 16370287

>>16370284
I just gave you a better defense if you dont like nuking moons. Also also targeted strikes to reduce destructive payload would still work just fine as these beachheads on the moons likely wouldnt have enough anti-IPM capabilities to fend off all of Mars for 2 years while waiting for reinforcements. It would also be easy enough to shoot out important resources like oxygen tanks and pressurized habs, or clear the bases like trench warfare if necessary. Now that I think about it those positions are kind of impossible to defend in a 2 year war of attrition while waiting for backup.

Anonymous No. 16370290

>>16370164
you’re not allowed to use this if you’re over 30, the landing would fuck up your back for the rest of your life

Anonymous No. 16370291

>>16369782
> But the New York Times story tell us that in 2023, “SpaceX secured $3.1 billion in federal prime contracts, according to the data, nearly as much as the combined amount the federal government committed for space transportation and related services from its nine competitors, from giants like Boeing and Northrop Grumman to startups like Blue Origin.”

Startups like Blue Origin, which was founded before SpaceX
lmaoo

Anonymous No. 16370295

>>16370290
same as regular parachutes then

Anonymous No. 16370296

>>16370286
gb2r

Anonymous No. 16370297

>>16370285
Did I call it Luna retard? No I didnt. Its just more than obvious what that refers to. Youre also projecting since you asked that question, youre larping as an oldfag, I suggest you dont do that and either lurk moar or gtfo.

Anonymous No. 16370298

>>16369782
>>16370291
Poor impoverished Jeff Bezos :(

Reminder that you do not hate journalists enough. You think you do, but you don't.

Anonymous No. 16370299

>>16370297
It was a sarcastic question

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Anonymous No. 16370300

>>16370296

Anonymous No. 16370302

>>16370298
The more people say this retarded phrase the more I start to hate the poster. We get it, journalists suck its been 8 years of this shit now shut up already.

Anonymous No. 16370303

>>16370299
It clearly wasnt and youre using that as a get out of jail free card, lurk moar.

Anonymous No. 16370304

>>16369698
dp is gay and throatfucking doesnt make girl orgasm

Anonymous No. 16370305

>>16370297
>>16370300
I invite all of (you) idiots to search the archive for “luna” and see how it has always been treated. That’s all I have to say on the matter

Anonymous No. 16370306

>>16370305
some schizo having a melty every time I call our moon by her name is not evidence that it's not her name

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Anonymous No. 16370308

>/sfg/ right now
Maybe its time to discuss something else.

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Anonymous No. 16370310

>>16370304
>throatfucking doesnt make girl orgasm
So what? Irrumation is based you pansy

Anonymous No. 16370312

>>16369746
>>16369782
>>16369786

wtf I hate these scumbags so much
they are the ones deliberately holding humanity back for retarded monopoly money FIAT line go up reasons

literally punishing someone for being too competent and filling a role none of them are able to

>>16370298
Journalists are indeed trash and are one of the many propaganda arms of the state.
Investigative journalism doesn't exist anymore.

>According to the Wall Street Journal, “SpaceX’s grip on the launch business means many government agencies and satellite operators must tether their ambitions to the company’s timetables and capabilities.”
Oh?

WELL IF THAT WERE A PROBLEM YOU SHOULDNT HAVE GUTTED THE SPACE PROGRAMS FUNDING TO LAUNDER TAXPAYER MONEY INSTEAD
HOW MANY LITERA ***TRILLIONS*** THAT WENT TO BANK BAILOUTS COULD HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT

WE WILL NEVER KNOW AND JOURALISTS DONT CARE
THINK ABOUT STORMY DANIELS INSTEAD
LMAO DIE

Anonymous No. 16370315

>>16370302
You don't hate journalists nearly enough.

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Anonymous No. 16370316

>>16369803
>>16369815
It's more practical than the other options of either nuking Mars's core over a billion times or building giant magnets on the poles of Mars. If the shield does get pushed out of the precise spot, it won't instantly remove Mars atmosphere and shouldn't take that much force to put it back into the right orbit. We could just build multiple for redundancy.

Regardless, the magnetosphere question is the largest unsolved problem when it comes to terraforming Mars and none of the options are easy and we can't really being terraforming Mars until it is solved. It sucks how the second-most habitable planet in our star system is still so very far from being habitable.

Anonymous No. 16370317

Yeah Mars is cooler than the Moon but you faggots are all retarded. My homies and I are going to hang out on the moons of Jupiter and in space stations around it's orbit. I'm going to be the first Jovian military dictator. You retards will be crying when we're the only non-earthers with any resources.

Anonymous No. 16370319

>>16370317
>dies from jupiter's massive radiation belt

Anonymous No. 16370322

>12 hours away from polaris dawn launch
just launch it already fuck

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Anonymous No. 16370324

>>16370317
When did Marsfags ever put down Jovianmooncels? By all means man be the king of that planetary system, but its Saturn that will hold all the negotiating power in your side of the system since it has Enceladus and Titan for natural resources. Mars would also control a good portion of the trade to the outer system unless you want to pay much higher prices by avoiding them. Jovian colonies are stuck in the middle of two great powers, though the position can be used well offensively by slinging trojans at whatever you want by utilizing Jupiter's gravity, though that would be a pretty telegraphed move that could be intercepted or preemptively striked.
>>16370319
>yfw callisto exists

Anonymous No. 16370325

>>16369600
I like using them in ksp :-}

Anonymous No. 16370326

>The growth of ridesharing and ESPA rings to operate and deploy small satellites means that operators can begin playing an increasingly sophisticated “shell game” by transferring mission and priority among multiple satellites, which was impossible with multi-billion-dollar, bus-sized satellites. Prior to rideshares being popularized, the median time to determine an object’s orbit and mission was 3.3 days. For recent rideshares, this process can now take weeks. The record for the most satellites deployed in a single launch is the Space-X Transporter-1 mission, which deployed 143 different satellites in 2021. This massive, near-simultaneous release of satellites created a significant challenge to accurately differentiate and track specific vehicles. Intentional application of similar methods to confuse adversaries in a crisis or conflict could yield an advantage to the United States.
https://mitchellaerospacepower.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Small-Satellites-Answering-the-Call-for-Space-Superiority-FINAL.pdf

This was an interesting passage to see this disadvantage of massive rideshare missions possibly being used as an advantage against advisories. Just dumping buckets of satellites all at once to make cataloguing and differentiating them a challenge.

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Anonymous No. 16370327

>>16370324
is that even a frog what the fuck is that thing please never post again

Anonymous No. 16370330

>>16370324
You get ONE MOON (of any significance) outside of the radiation belt. That's all the habitability Jupiter provides. So much for your dream of a grand Jovian empire.

Anonymous No. 16370332

Saturnian colonies will be a trade empire, Jovian colonies will be military societies, Martian colonies will be a SpaceX controlled gateman of the inner and outer system, Urf will be a wasteland.

Anonymous No. 16370333

>>16370330
Make underground/underice colonies or radiation shielded (read water covered) buildings. Problem solved!

Anonymous No. 16370335

>>16370330
I will live on Io and there is nothing your magnetic field can do about it

Anonymous No. 16370336

>>16370330
that's enough of a foothold to build the device to drain the radiation belt

Anonymous No. 16370337

>>16370333
What even is the point of living on a Jovian moon if you can't even look up at the night sky and see Jupiter because you live underground?

>>16370335
There are worse things to worry about on Io than radiation.

Anonymous No. 16370338

reminder low gravity reduces penis size

Anonymous No. 16370340

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ym494x_Wi0

Anonymous No. 16370341

>>16370337
There is nothing your sulphur dioxide covered surface can do to stop me from building a base on Io

Anonymous No. 16370342

>>16370338
I think a few debbie downer anons in this thread have been spending extended time in low gravity.

Anonymous No. 16370344

>>16370338
Don't skip jelq day.

Anonymous No. 16370345

>>16369676
The RS-2200 was a gas generator engine, and the RS-25 is staged combustion. Aerospikes aren't good, but not for the reasons stated.

Anonymous No. 16370346

>>16370340
The FAA will need a few centuries to think about that

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>>16370338
>planetcels and mooncels seething over their frail bodies while I look like this after living in a von Braun station spinning fast enough to simulate living in 10g

Anonymous No. 16370351

>>16370347
based

Anonymous No. 16370352

>>16369749
This kind of post only ever comes from people who rabidly hate Elon Musk, believe he's a liability, and can't square that with SpaceX or Tesla's success.

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Anonymous No. 16370353

>>16370347
What you will look like is this after snapping your neck since you tripped once and had a major concussion to your head idiot.

Anonymous No. 16370354

>>16370051
>you're smarter than NASA and DARPA
NASA thought reuse wasn't viable. DARPA never invented it either. Shows how smart they really are.

Anonymous No. 16370357

>>16370346
Simply point the exhaust at FAA HQ

Anonymous No. 16370358

>>16370353
*what (You) will look like after I snap your neck with my pinky finger after a decade of living in 20g

Anonymous No. 16370362

shut the fuck up you retards, humans can't survive much beyond 2g for long periods

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Anonymous No. 16370363

>>16370347
based

Anonymous No. 16370364

>>16370362
quitter talk, ngmi, enjoy being a fragile twig

Anonymous No. 16370366

>>16370064
>What would terminal velocity be on the Moon assuming 1 atm pressure?
Take terminal velocity on Earth and divide by 6.
>Could you dive into water from any height and survive?
Most people would survive hitting water at 34 km/h, yeah

Anonymous No. 16370367

>>16370347
Your blood will drain to your feet. How do you plan on dealing with that, fag?

Anonymous No. 16370369

>>16370358
>wake up
>veins herniated in your sleep again

Anonymous No. 16370370

>>16370367
a healthy diet and lots of exercise

>>16370369
you can't make gainz without sacrifices

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Anonymous No. 16370371

>>16370340
>engine pulse rate far too low
>no dust cloud deployed ahead of the probe
his worst video since starraker

Anonymous No. 16370372

>>16370066
So hazardous that our solar powered 90 day rovers only lasted A DECADE
As for dust that gets indoors, I prescribe a deep inhale to help you relax, because nanoscopic mineral dust is probably as bad for you as the nanoscopic plastic dust you currently eat and breathe every day.

Anonymous No. 16370373

>>16370353
stupid and weak frogposter

Anonymous No. 16370374

>>16370338
it also makes titties float around
it's a crime that there are no publically available nude photographs of women in a zero g environment so we can examine in detail the behavior of their weightless mammaries

are there any reports from female astronauts who squeezed their funbags in space
we need to know how different they feel in space versus on the ground

native born martians would probably be taller and lankier than terrans because of the reduced gravity

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Anonymous No. 16370375

>>16370370
You know what really grinds my gears? Schizos.

Anonymous No. 16370376

>>16370069
>a decade
So you agree we'll have all this tech basically immediately? Cool, but why are you FUD posting though

Anonymous No. 16370377

>>16370367
Wear a g-suit to start and your body will acclimatize in a couple weeks.

Anonymous No. 16370378

>>16370267
>anon's only chance to possibly get laid someday requires the moon to be colonized first
EL EM AY OH

Anonymous No. 16370380

What's the weather like for Polaris Dawn tomorrow?

Anonymous No. 16370382

>>16370377
>yeah dude your body will totally acclimate to 10G
cant wait to see these execution stations in action.

Anonymous No. 16370383

>>16370372
yeah I would rather try breathing toxic mars dust than the nanoplasics already suspended in the atmosphere desu
but I'm too fucked up to ever think about making the trip and have very few technical skills so they wouldn't take me anyways

how the fuck did all the nanoplastics end up in fucking clouds anyways
does evaporation really carry them up there
makes me think it's the chemtrails or some other deliberate chicanery to make everyone retarded

Anonymous No. 16370384

>>16370248
wipers plus lubricant, just like on URF

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>>16370382

Anonymous No. 16370386

>>16370380
Do you really need to know to be excited for it?

Anonymous No. 16370389

>>16370382
You can start it at 1G and gradually increase to 10G over the course of 2 years.

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Anonymous No. 16370390

>>16370382
YOUR body might not be able to acclimate to 10g because you are genetically weak and don't work out, my body on the other hand will adjust perfectly fine and I will be like Goku after he spent months training up to 100g

Anonymous No. 16370391

>>16370367
I squeeze my feet muscles to force the blood back into my head
>noo you can't do that
Fighter pilots literally do

Anonymous No. 16370392

>>16370075
They should pick the solution that keeps the doers in charge and the bureaucrats stuck in greenhouses rotating plants 90 degrees daily.

A Mars colony is defacto independent as soon as they can produce all technology thwy need to survive & grow in situ without anything from Earth, which will take a very long time. As for operational independence, I think the Martians will be almost totally free to determine their own best path forward, though grand plan strategy will come from Earth for at least a while. Very soon after the first people land on Mars, those people will become absolute subject matter experts compared to anyone on Earth.

Anonymous No. 16370393

>>16370297
>gtfo
I tried this, but I'm here forever

Anonymous No. 16370394

>>16370079
>do we have any data backing up that a starship hab module can make it over there and still be livable enough to house people?
They will by the time they are doing Moon missions, let alone Mars. Not a real concern.

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Anonymous No. 16370397

For a while it looked like a launch window for PD might open up around the 13th - 15th but the latest model runs are taking a giant shit on that possibility.

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Anonymous No. 16370398

>>16370302
>We get it, journalists suck its been 8 years of this shit now shut up already.
Wrong!

Anonymous No. 16370399

>>16370378
It's like Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars series. The past part about leaving Earth is... you could have sex

Anonymous No. 16370401

>>16370315
>>16370302
He thinks he does, but he doesn't.

Anonymous No. 16370405

>>16370083
>3d printed metals and powder based metals have a ton of processing beyond just printing them, and are way more likely to harbor defects like being overly pourus and not as strong as traditionally casted materials.
Nice FUD, fuckass. All problems solved by inspecting and testing the part after print. Obviously work after printing is required, I didn't imply there wouldn't be. Also, being "not as string as cast" literally does not matter one iota. You make the part as strong as it needs to be to perform the function, and 3D printing is the option with the least work required in this context, so it's the best. Eventually Mars will have 200,000 tonne drop forges and shit, but we are talking about day 1 equipment and capabilities here.

Anonymous No. 16370406

>>16370390
your capillaries just explode at a certain level of g force

it doesn't matter how good your cardio is when that happens
nothing you can do to augment that, capillaries are tiny for a reason

Anonymous No. 16370407

>>16370302
>t. journalist

Anonymous No. 16370408

>>16370357
You need to build it first, and the FAA will need a few millennia to think about that

Anonymous No. 16370409

>>16370324
>go to jupiter
>can never leave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09839DpTctU

whatever happens to the jupitards they won't be r problem anymore

Anonymous No. 16370412

>>16370409
our* problem

Anonymous No. 16370413

>the virgin hohmann transfer
>the chad retrograde direct ascent

Anonymous No. 16370414

>>16370409
Who needs to leave their colony when you can threaten planetary bombardment anywhere in the system? Also Im a Marsfag not a Jupiterfag, just saying they have a position

Anonymous No. 16370417

>>16370102
>unfurls second medusa chute-nozzle

Anonymous No. 16370418

>>16370338
>condoms are a bit too tight
>measure penis
>turns out I need to wear the largest size

Anonymous No. 16370419

>>16370338
Maybe for you it does.

Anonymous No. 16370420

Honestly the solar system doesn't do it for me. All the choices are gay, faggoty compromises not worth the effort. Time to look for something better.

Anonymous No. 16370422

>>16370409
They can't breed either

Anonymous No. 16370423

>>16370399
some of that guy's writing could be good (not the global warming fag shit) if he didn't feel the need to include first person descriptions of sex with niggers

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Anonymous No. 16370424

>>16370420
Not so fast urfugee, pay the toll or get rolled

Anonymous No. 16370425

>>16370126
To end up with more cargo on Mars than you would have during the first Crewed attempt if you had not pre-staged cargo. Everything sent in the first landing tests should be redundant backups for cargo to be sent in the future alongside crew. Basically it's making use of an opportunity to increase robustness and capability.

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Anonymous No. 16370427

>arguing over which gravity well sucks the most
you will never be a real spacer

Anonymous No. 16370428

>>16370406
100g is tolerable if the duration is milliseconds

Anonymous No. 16370429

>>16370382
fat retards get up to 800 lbs on earth
5G is definitely possibly

Anonymous No. 16370430

>>16370392
I think any long term mission is going to need redundant specialists, so that in the case of an accident where you lose someone who was highly qualified to operate a certain system you have someone elso who can pick up the slack until you get or train a replacement.

The martian government should be equally redundant.

As for bureaucrats, you don't even need to think about them existing until you get a self-sufficient settlement operating and have to consider interplanetary commerce. They are pointless eaters at any early stage.

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Anonymous No. 16370432

https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1833217094751600772

HLS airlock prototype or something delivered to starbase

Anonymous No. 16370433

>>16370144
Never heard of timberwind? You must be new, but we all knew that.
>>16370147
>No one has a way of separating undifferentiated Martian dirt into it's constituent elements
Yes we do, it's called molten oxide electrolysis. You don't just get garbage mixed metal alloy out of zapping lava, you get one quite pure metal per voltage threshold, starting from lowest binding energy with oxygen to highest.
We already do this, now, today, with lunar rock simulant, which is really just inorganic rock. Zero reason to think it would not work on Mars too.

Anonymous No. 16370437

>>16370424
>got cucked by theia
>malding for over 3 billion years

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>>16370432

Anonymous No. 16370440

>>16370148
Looking forward to this guy's future descent into madness as Starship just keeps getting better.

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Anonymous No. 16370442

>>16370429
>definitely possibly
fuck

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Anonymous No. 16370444

>>16370438

Anonymous No. 16370445

>>16370432
so they threw it in the dumpster?

Anonymous No. 16370448

>>16370151
The dust doesn't matter, what is your problem? Yes I'm aware of perchlorates: they aren't an issue at that concentration. Yes I know about the heavy metals too, and even the cosmic ray generated activation products. Those also do not matter at that concentration. You wanna clean up the dust in the corners? Grab a vacuum and a mop retard.

Anonymous No. 16370449

>>16370386
I'd like to know if it's worth staying up

Anonymous No. 16370451

>>16370428
you're describing gravity therapy
there's no centrifuge that meets your specifications

Anonymous No. 16370456

>>16370451
Actually I was describing accelerometer data from Formula 1 crashes in which the driver walked away or only had minor injuries.

Anonymous No. 16370457

>>16370432
they will need to integrate that quick if they are going to fulfil the artemis 2024 contract...

Anonymous No. 16370459

>>16370451
project Orion, actuate the dampener on and off

Anonymous No. 16370460

>>16370181
Everything you think you are deducing is actually fantasy not based in reality.

Anonymous No. 16370461

>>16370459
you're not getting very far on 1 millisecond of 100 gees.

Anonymous No. 16370463

>>16370461
G-suits son, haven't you flown a fighter jet?

Anonymous No. 16370464

>the dust doesn't matter
lmao
sure thing buddy
aerosolized dust particles accumulating in hard to reach places of critical systems with moving parts is no big deal

we can just let a fleet of Starships sit on the martian surface for years before humans even touch down with no problems at all

Anonymous No. 16370466

>>16370461
Hey I never proposed it as a vehicle, just as an instrument for gravity therapy. Think of it more like a nuclear gainz hotel

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Anonymous No. 16370469

>>16370464
We can develop the tech

Anonymous No. 16370470

>>16370182
He'd probably say "to shield it", not understanding that A: the dose rate on the surface of Mars is comparable to the ISS, ie no big deal, and B: a wall could be printed or built from blocks to fully encapsulate a Starship for shielding purposes while it stood upright, and finally B: it may simply be less work & faster to fabricate a flat shielded surface hab from scratch than it may be to retrofit a Starship's propellant tanks into additional habitat volume.

Anonymous No. 16370471

>>16370466
Can this gains hotel help me pick up your mother?

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Anonymous No. 16370474

https://x.com/AnthonyFGomez/status/1833130782069518800

horrific what SpaceX did with that deluge water

Anonymous No. 16370475

It looks the 2024 NIAC Symposium stuff got uploaded
https://web.cvent.com/event/c3bf8346-776e-49dd-a45a-b74db57c2c29/websitePage:62aed4de-2e00-4397-8c11-0f9fa20e143b

Anonymous No. 16370478

>can't escape mom's gravity well
>stuck in her basement

Anonymous No. 16370479

>>16370192
>>16370203
baby's first second-order effects thinking (gibberish but it's an attempt)

Anonymous No. 16370480

>>16370479
What do you not understand or disagree with in those messages nigger.
>inb4 everything
Specify why it is all wrong then or youre a pseud

Anonymous No. 16370482

>>16370478
I am in this situation and I can't figure out how to get more metaphorical delta-v.

Anonymous No. 16370483

>>16370474
>They put TAPWATER in that and liquid NITROGEN

Anonymous No. 16370485

>>16370482
Simply have sex incel

Anonymous No. 16370487

>>16370204
Literally not a problem.
>>16370206
Concept for a volumemaxxxed Mars pressurized habitat. Basically a giant air mattress with breathable atmosphere inside which can cover essentially unlimited area, but usually is discussed with the implication that each would cover up to hundreds of square kilometers, and contain radiation hardened settlements capable of weathering a complete depressurization if necessary.

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Anonymous No. 16370490

>>16370414
to steal earther women, obviously

Anonymous No. 16370491

>>16370490
Why would you want inferior E*rther women....

Anonymous No. 16370492

>>16370417
yeah just carry a backup lol
>>16370423
your complaints might be related

Anonymous No. 16370493

>>16370238
Your posts actively degrade the quality of the thread. You treat ideas as intellectual fast food: you get lost in generating them and don't think to vet your thoughts against reality before you spout them here, sounding like a child trying to tell their father about how a car works.

Anonymous No. 16370494

>>16370344
kek

Anonymous No. 16370496

This is what lack of spaceflight does to a general

Anonymous No. 16370497

>>16370456
are those accelerometers attached to the driver's body? because that short pulse gets stretched across time (and therefore reduced) by the various seat belts and other safety mechanisms

Anonymous No. 16370499

>>16370248
>dude the dust is literally too fine and sticky from the static to use even tiny windshield wipers
So sticky wind blows it away almost as fast as the dust settles.
>and how do you wipe the wipers when the dust settles in their joints
Joints that don't care about dust are achieveable.
Dust cannot settle into a joint that is enclosed in an impermeable flexible barrier.
Two duster arms allows one arm to dust the other.

Try thinking before saying nonsense.

Anonymous No. 16370502

>>16370496
We are discussing space colonization which is directly related to spaceflight as space colonization presuposes spaceflight
Also two more weeks

Anonymous No. 16370504

>>16370497
I don't know the attachment points but they exist for safety. Each car has a medical alarm that gets triggered if an accleration of >30g is detected during a crash. This means the driver has to go to the hospital for ovservation even if he says he's fine.

Anonymous No. 16370506

IFT4 wasnt orbital it was suborbital! Starship is no better than New Shepard

Anonymous No. 16370508

>>16370267
Hey retard, what do you think the 1000 Starship fleet is gonna do between Mars launch windows? The Moon is RIGHT THERE and we'll have plenty of launch capacity to space, with a vehicle that can deliver directly to the Moon's surface (owing to refilling in orbit). The Moon will be settled at the same time Mars is being settled.

Anonymous No. 16370509

>>16369858
Or just send a bunch starships with batteries
Isnt the energy density of flywheels absolute shit?

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Anonymous No. 16370511

>>16370506
You forgot this

Anonymous No. 16370512

>>16370496
spaceflight is happening faster this year than any year before

Anonymous No. 16370513

>>16370506
Blue Shepherd has flown useful payloads, how many as Starship deployed?

Anonymous No. 16370515

>>16369864
Yes link any interesting spaceflight related video
If it looks boeing, i will simply ignore, if not then cool

Anonymous No. 16370516

>>16370269
>>16370287
You're kinda dumb huh

Anonymous No. 16370518

>>16370512
>ift-5 taking longer than ift-4
>dawn repeat delays
>blorigin isnt flying their payload
>two f9 failures
>faa cucking spacex
im sorry can you say that again?

Anonymous No. 16370519

>>16370304
Throatfucking can make any woman orgasm as long as you're also fingerblasting her

Anonymous No. 16370521

>>16370504
so no, the g-force on the accelerometer is not directly comparable to the g-force on the driver

Anonymous No. 16370522

>>16370306
The Moon is not a woman, and Luna is just another language's way to say "the Moon".

Anonymous No. 16370523

>>16370521
>so no
I didn't say that

Anonymous No. 16370524

>>16370474
would it be possible to remove all the water?

Anonymous No. 16370525

>>16370516
Would you like to explain the gaps in my logic so I can grovel at your feet? Or will you just sit back and say nothing again proving yourself to be a pseud?

Anonymous No. 16370527

>>16370518
>2024 even 2024 event
>scheduled to launch in less than 12 hours
>more info about new glenn than we recieved in the last 5 years combined
>two exciting events in an otherwise mundane aspect of spaceflight
>business as usual
2024's been pretty good so far

Anonymous No. 16370529

>>16370316
A magnetosphere is not needed.

Anonymous No. 16370533

>>16370521
>F1 drivers have accelerometers in their ear pieces so that accurate data can be gathered on the forces acting on the driver, which is particularly important after a crash.
Now the shut the fuck up nerd

Anonymous No. 16370534

>>16369708
holy shit.
starlink has so many implications, i forgor that this was one of them.

Anonymous No. 16370537

>>16370534
For me its the study of animals in remote places

Anonymous No. 16370540

>>16370513
Unironically SS has probably deployed more inspiration than NewShep and has lead to more people getting interested in space, and more children wanting to peruse engineering science and math.

Anonymous No. 16370542

>>16370527
>>scheduled to launch in less than 12 hours
PD? lol, lmao

Anonymous No. 16370543

>>16370513
Jeff.... this is embarassing

Anonymous No. 16370551

From an ethics stand point, do you support important missions like dragonfly, future europa lander, etc. requiring a clean room and trying to ensure it’s as clean as humanly possible?

Anonymous No. 16370553

Finally... silence.

Anonymous No. 16370554

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous No. 16370555

>>16370551
no

>>16370553
kek

Anonymous No. 16370557

>>16370551
AHHH YOU DICK
ALSO no I do not support gay requirements like that unless its for space agencies. Do not impede independent engineers from putting their cargo in to space when it becomes cheap enough to do so for gay environmental reasons like this, when most life would be buried in underice oceans IF ANY! (Hint there is none)

Anonymous No. 16370558

>>16370475
T-FINER looks promising

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Anonymous No. 16370559

>countdown started

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Anonymous No. 16370561

>>16370551
>do you support important missions like dragonfly, future europa lander, etc.
No, exobiology in the outer solar system is a cheesy popsci grift and its making your mind into mush

Anonymous No. 16370562

Thank you, Based Jimmy

Anonymous No. 16370563

>>16370529
It is for long-term terraforming (i.e. centuries, millennia). Without a magnetic field, Mars's atmosphere will be whittled away by solar winds.

Anonymous No. 16370564

>>16370561
What if there are important cures for diseases or crazy drugs that are only made by strange alien microbes?

By disturbing their ecosystem or introducing invasive Earth microbes, we could lose that information.

Anonymous No. 16370566

>>16370564
Your only reason for doing so is this irrational theory that SOMEHOW these microbial single celled life forms will be the cure for cancer 8v&oe their biological systems may be nothing like ours and its more likely our body rejects them from anything. Get your head out of your ass and think with reason

Anonymous No. 16370567

>>16370564
That’s a far-off hypothetical. It’s better to assume every planetary body is simply devoid of life.
Now it’s another question though if we sent a super-barnyard lander to, say, enceladus’ ocean and did no cleanup or devon of it whatsoever and we found it’s oceans teeming with microbial life. Then we have a “what if we just fucking accidentally genocided this natural world with earth pathogens” dilemma on our hands but the chances of this happening are extremely slim

Anonymous No. 16370569

>>16370566
>their biological systems may be nothing like ours

It's not necessarily the microbes themselves that are medicinally useful.
Could be their waste or other byproducts that are important instead.

Anonymous No. 16370570

>>16370567
*decon
also sorry for messing up its and it’s, I am legit ESL

Anonymous No. 16370572

>>16370569
See picrel >>16370561 and return to Earth

Anonymous No. 16370573

>>16370567
>better to assume every planetary body is simply devoid of life
that's not a sound assumption to make
in fact, I can remember somewhere around more than a decade ago the Russians discovered extraterrestrial bacteria from a microcomet impact that they scraped of the side of the ISS

that article is probably long gone now
microbial life is probably way more common than we can assume

>“what if we just fucking accidentally genocided this natural world with earth pathogens” dilemma on our hands but the chances of this happening are extremely slim

shit like this happens quite regularly on earth
it will happen in space too

Anonymous No. 16370575

>don't go there because there might be useful microbes we could use if we went there
Are they going to teleport to Earth?

Anonymous No. 16370576

>>16370325
in Ksp the aerospike has decent efficiency and good thrust to weight ratio, the opposite of real life.

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Anonymous No. 16370578

>>16370567
Given the frequency of impacts every world in the system has been repeatedly bombarded with bits of every other world. There never was a cordon sanitaire but instead material exchange from the beginning

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Anonymous No. 16370587

>next mars windows are in 2026 and 2029
so thats why elon is pushing for 4 years for manned missions, because its our last chance in this decade.

also interesting that the timeline has stayed in the same since 2022, pic related
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1504173360456077313

Anonymous No. 16370589

>>16370578
Me on the farthest left

Anonymous No. 16370592

>>16370345
Doesn't make the RS-2200 not-shit.

Anonymous No. 16370593

>>16370575
Did you forget that an important and dangerous part of space exploration is discovering new lifeforms that can be benefitial to all mankind?

It's not all about hauling space rocks for their minerals.
New medical technologies from extraterrestrial microbes are a huge incentive too.

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Anonymous No. 16370594

Thank you, Based Jimmy

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Anonymous No. 16370595

>>16370589
are you natty?

Anonymous No. 16370596

>>16370593
>extraterrestrial microbes
Still purely theoretical, for all we know the rest of the solar system is sterile as a mule.

Anonymous No. 16370597

>>16370587
he would be lucky to land on moon by 29 let alone mars....

Anonymous No. 16370598

>>16370593
You can't discover them without going there was my point

Anonymous No. 16370599

>>16370597
Muskrats btfo

Anonymous No. 16370600

>>16370362
we left humanity behind long ago

Anonymous No. 16370602

whats the maximum gravity you could live in for your entire life?

Anonymous No. 16370603

>>16370596
if its not it'll be earth bugs blasted there by impacts anyway

Anonymous No. 16370604

>>16370602
That depends on how long you want that life to be.

Anonymous No. 16370606

>>16370602
0g

Anonymous No. 16370607

>>16370602
Jellobabies.

Anonymous No. 16370608

>>16370148
another banger from pressure fed SIGMA

Anonymous No. 16370609

>>16370460
>anon confirms Earth isn't real

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Anonymous No. 16370610

>>16370602
For years at a time? 1.41421 g

Anonymous No. 16370612

>>16370596
>purely theoretical

they are not anymore
This shit I read more than a decade ago, I can remember it.

>>16370598
sure, that's true
the risk of cross contamination is always part of taking any sample
but there are ways to mitigate this risk, including sterilization procedures

one risk that we haven't touched on yet is the one posed by alien microbes to the human specimen
martian dust could carry infectious microbes
returning astronauts will need to be quarantined for a time to examine them for side effects that we don't want spreading into the general population

Anonymous No. 16370613

>>16370602
You develop heart problems above 1.2g over time. And below you develop them if you ever return to 1g after years of living < 0.8g. Source is my ass.

Anonymous No. 16370614

>>16370613
Can I read this source?

Anonymous No. 16370615

for the record, this period I'm talking about is the one when Obama nixed the US carriage to low Earth orbit capabilities as part of his spending cutbacks

back when we relied on cooperation with the Russians to ferry our astronauts to the ISS

that's roughly when the Russians scraped extraterrestrial bacterial from a microcomet impact off the side of the ISS

Anonymous No. 16370616

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKm0TgbVdg
Ahh the sound of singing cables.

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Anonymous No. 16370617

0g is bad for the eyes so logically 2g would give you the eyes of a hawk

Anonymous No. 16370619

>>16370612
>they are not anymore
May I see these extraterrestrial microbes?

Anonymous No. 16370621

>>16370619
kek here comes his schizo reply about venus microbes or a wow! signal

Anonymous No. 16370624

>>16370148
kek he called eager space a larper
eager bros...

Anonymous No. 16370628

>>16370619
dude you want me to dig up proof from an article I read more than a decade ago
you know how much they have scrubbed since then, it's not a pretty sight

see >>16370615
that's just what I remember my dude ISTG not just making it up

Anonymous No. 16370629

>>16370621
le viking data
>>16370624
That confirms my suspicions. Eager beaver is the man

Anonymous No. 16370630

>>16370592
It doesn't, but the actual one thing that isn't shit about it is its efficiency.

Anonymous No. 16370631

>>16370383
why do we have an ESGHound ballwasher in the thread?
/sfg/ needs a feature that enables voting on whether or not a particular poster's head should be remotely vaporized and then does it if the vote carries

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Anonymous No. 16370632

>>16370615
>Russians scraped extraterrestrial bacterial from a microcomet impact off the side of the ISS

Anonymous No. 16370634

>>16370612
Among the first steps from any remote samples would be characterizing the life if found. Assuming amino acids are present then what is the chirality? Earth based organisms have L-isomer amino acids in proteins. However D-isomer based organisms could exist, which would pose a compatibility problem. No amino acids whatsoever would be new biology and cross contaimination is unlikely to matter but that's an experiment in and of itself.

Anonymous No. 16370635

>>16370391
I tried this, but the only thing that happened was that I shit my pants

Anonymous No. 16370636

>>16370634
Oh look it’s the abiogenesis clown

Anonymous No. 16370637

>>16370148
lmao and at the end of the video he basically says "have sex incel starship isn't gonna give you a girlfriend"

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Anonymous No. 16370638

>>16370628
>dude you want me to dig up proof from an article
Yes?

Anonymous No. 16370639

>>16370636
nta, shitposter kun

Anonymous No. 16370640

>>16370632
Yeah.

I read about that shit happening while Obama was still president.
The Russians effectively owned the ISS during the time period in question. Because they were the only ones still operating a transit service that could actually dock with it.
US astronauts got the the ISS using Russian vehicles for at least a couple years yo, I don't exactly remember how long it took to reestablish US capabilities.

Anonymous No. 16370642

>>16370634
>what is the chirality
ta
probably right handed

that's the dominant chirality of most life on earth IIRC

Anonymous No. 16370643

>>16370631
Hes been around he generally reposts EDSer vids like LightningL3g, ESG, CSS, etc. for (You)s. Just ignore him and he goes away for a while.

Anonymous No. 16370644

>>16370383
>how the fuck did all the nanoplastics end up in fucking clouds anyways
I guess people's drying machines spraying plastic fibers into the atmosphere every time they wash anything made of synthetic fibers probably has something to do with it. Also tire particulates, if you're comfortable calling those a plastic.

Anonymous No. 16370645

>>16370561
Thank you, Based Janny

Anonymous No. 16370646

>>16370624
eager brutally voicemogs him

Anonymous No. 16370647

>>16370564
Dumbest, gayest post in this thread

Anonymous No. 16370649

>>16370646
Hahah

Anonymous No. 16370651

>>16370569
Stop doubling down on your retardation
Learn to recognize when you're wrong or condemn yourself to life as a retard

Anonymous No. 16370653

>>16370496
i intentionally made this OP about isaac-arthur style future megastructures because there was no actual spaceflight going on and i figured this would be superior to the alternative of schizo political shitflinging.

i'd rather have an autist explain to me at length why HIS idea for long-term colonization of mercury is better than my own than have more election year derangement, so far it's worked pretty well.

Anonymous No. 16370654

>>16370575
kek

>>16370578
pan spermia means sperm everywhere

Anonymous No. 16370655

>>16370635
Keep practicing

Anonymous No. 16370656

>>16370433
Is it done at industrial scale? Plenty of stuff exists in lab conditions. My point with the other stuff is that it can basically be sent to Mars with very little extra development needed. Basically all industrial processes will work with 0 development besides putting them on a pallet and shoving them into a rocket. Step one is metals from dirt though, and it isn't apparent to me that step one is solved. SpaceX is notoriously good at solving step one though so I'm not too worried

Anonymous No. 16370657

>>16370653
Have to admit this thread has gone pretty well. Gonna shift my own to be this sort of style as well.

Anonymous No. 16370658

>>16370644
word

there's also the use of human waste product from sewer systems in agricultural fields
they are absolutely littered with mp's

>>16370638
me too, give me a minute

>Scientists have detected living bacteria "from outer space" in samples collected from the exterior of the International Space Station (ISS) during spacewalks, cosmonaut Anton Shkaplerov told Russia's state-owned TASS news agency.

These spacewalks were conducted by cosmonauts, who collected material from the Russian part of the ISS using cotton swabs, which were sent to Earth for analysis, Shkaplerov said.

"And now it turns out that somehow these swabs reveal bacteria that were absent during the launch of the ISS module," Shkaplerov told TASS. "That is, they have come from outer space and settled along the external surface. They are being studied so far, and it seems that they pose no danger."

In the brief TASS report, Shkaplerov does not elaborate on how the Russian researchers arrived at their extraterrestrial conclusion. As CNET notes, it seems like Earthly contamination would be tough to rule out, given how hardy many microorganisms tend to be. Some bacteria, and tiny micro-animals known as tardigrades, have demonstrated the ability to survive for extended periods in the harsh conditions of space.

>And terrestrial organisms may have accidentally made their way to the ISS before, if a controversial 2014 claim by Russian space officials is to be believed. Back then, space station official Vladimir Solovyov announced, also via TASS, that sea plankton and other microorganisms had been spotted in cosmonauts' spacewalk samples.

2014 checks out with my recollection of reading about this, though I swear I heard about it a year or two before that I could be wrong.
It disturbs me as much as you might be to know the Russians could have exclusive access to extraterrestrial bacteria.

Anonymous No. 16370659

>>16370578
Good point good point

Anonymous No. 16370661

>>16370602
There's no maximum. If the gravity is sufficiently high your life will end immediately and your whole life will have been lived.

Anonymous No. 16370662

>>16370564
What a fucking moron

Anonymous No. 16370664

>>16370642
>IIRC
It's left handed, there is a tendancy for right handed proteins to be toxic hence the compatibility issue if it were found to be different.

Anonymous No. 16370665

>>16370651
>>16370647
that's not a rebuttal
the fact you even bothered to take the time out of your day to type out this slop betrays your cognitive inadequacy

Anonymous No. 16370667

>>16370564
TESCREAL hands typed this post

Anonymous No. 16370668

>>16370597
I'm pretty sure it's actually more difficult for Starship to land on the moon

Anonymous No. 16370669

>>16370657
whenever there is no active spessflights to discuss you just dangle the keys in front of them, the OP tends to set the mood of the thread.

Anonymous No. 16370670

>waaahhh the space coof is gonna get us if we go to europa everyone stay in your pods

Anonymous No. 16370672

>>16370615
please fuck off man

Anonymous No. 16370674

>>16370655
I just keep ruining more pants :-(

Anonymous No. 16370676

>>16370664
bro I actually looked this up a few years ago
there's no way I just forgot that most organic structures on the planet have a right handed cardinality

wtf is this Berenstein ass Mandela effect shit

Anonymous No. 16370677

>>16370658
Are you ESL? This is not extraterrestrial. The ISS is basically in the atmosphere

Anonymous No. 16370678

>>16370267
they arent mutually exclusive

Anonymous No. 16370679

>>16370668
*Luna

Anonymous No. 16370681

>>16370672
oh no, did I triger your autism by mentioning the Americans relied on the Russians to get to the ISS for a few years because Obama killed the program

trust me, I see as many problems with that as you do

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Anonymous No. 16370682

>>16370640
Nine years. STS-135 was in 2011, Crew Dragon DM-2 was in 2020.

Anonymous No. 16370683

>>16370658
I don't think that's very substantial proof anon, it's more likely that some Earth shit grew there after launch than it is that interplanetary microbes settled on the ISS.

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Anonymous No. 16370684

*blub* *blub* *blub*

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Anonymous No. 16370686

>>16370681
Lurk for a year before you post again, dumbass.

Anonymous No. 16370687

>>16370676
You may have been thinking of the S/R nomenclature. Not sure why someone thought we needed to change it.

Anonymous No. 16370688

>>16370682
wow, thanks for the information based knower

>>16370683
It was convincing to me at the time.

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Anonymous No. 16370691

>>16370684
WTF? Did mother nature get a EPA permit to do this??????? HOW IS THIS ALLOWED

Anonymous No. 16370692

>>16370688
I thought the Mars asteroid with the maybe-bacterial-fossil in it was more convincing, personally. I still remain unconvinced that it wasn't biological.
>>16370689
Poor little 'liner
>>16370691
Bet the ocelots are livid

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Anonymous No. 16370694

>>16370689
Bratty capsule

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370695

>>16370689
I want to fuck her so bad bros. i love when little girls cry hnnnggg

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370698

>>16370694
>>16370689
Back to xitter you go

Anonymous No. 16370699

>>16370687
>You may have been thinking of the S/R nomenclature. Not sure why someone thought we needed to change it.

What? Who changed it and when?

I was interested in cardinality and chirality for other reasons and off-handedly decided to check the known biochem.
So you missed me on that making any sense on my end.

Anonymous No. 16370700

>>16370698
anime website

Anonymous No. 16370701

>>16370698
fuck off

Anonymous No. 16370703

>>16370698
X.com is based,it's founded by Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla/SpaceX/Neurolink/BoringCo/XAI and cofounder of OpenAI

Anonymous No. 16370704

>>16370699
>I was interested in cardinality and chirality for other reasons
How's the meth lab coming along?

Anonymous No. 16370711

>>16370704
If these concepts are applicable to the average home meth lab, that is news to me.

I was onto some abstract nonsense at the time.
To this day the word "cardinality" still confuses me because of the different ways it is used by different people in different fields.

Anonymous No. 16370713

>>16370668
its much harder to land on mars because it requires long term storage of cryogenic propellants without significant boiloff, as well as requiring the turbomachinery in the raptors to reliably turn on after years of exposure to space. Not even mentioning the fact that you need a propellant factory already on Mars...

Anonymous No. 16370714

>>16370711
If you're trying to meth-max you want the D-isomer

Anonymous No. 16370716

what kind of meth are we talking about here? liquid or gas meth and whats our combustion ratio?

Anonymous No. 16370720

>>16370714
You clearly know more about this than I do.
I happily concede that.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370721

>>16370700
>muh anime website
Why don't you skitter to the weirdo coomer boards section then? It's there for people just like you.

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Anonymous No. 16370722

>techbros think that space is free cooling

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Anonymous No. 16370724

>>16370674
Why are you wearing them? The rest of /sfg/ posts in the nude

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Anonymous No. 16370726

This discussion about chirality (and meth) is making my wonder why the chemistry general has never managed to stay active. Surely there would be lots of legitimate chemists and braindead retards who want to talk about chemistry?
It would funny if some retard asks how to make meth and instead of telling them that they should reduce ephedrine with phosphorous and iodine, we just tell them to mix ammonia and bleach in an poorly-ventilated area.

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Anonymous No. 16370729

>>16370721
This potato is what's at the top of my page right now

Anonymous No. 16370730

>>16370721
Why don't you fuck off and stop trying to be a backseat janitor who does it for free?

Anonymous No. 16370731

>>16370724
enjoy your vacation mr breast poster

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Anonymous No. 16370732

>>16370686
>le Nixon ruined everything meme
Take your own advice

Anonymous No. 16370734

>>16370726
kek

Anonymous No. 16370735

>>16370730
kek that anon wasnt even the original (me >>16370698 youre MAD mad

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Anonymous No. 16370737

>>16370729
Top of mine.

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Anonymous No. 16370738

>>16370561
Thank you, Based Jimmy

Anonymous No. 16370741

attempting to reuse raptor is going to be hilarious. musk said they will "cut open" raptor 3 to refurbishit. WTF lmao.

Anonymous No. 16370744

>>16370522
I'm gonna fuck the moon
>>16370523
that doesn't make it not true
>>16370533
this does, however
thank you for backing up your claims

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Anonymous No. 16370745

>>16370741
fr fr on jah no cap cuh? is raptor not bussin?

Anonymous No. 16370746

>>16370716
Psychomotor stimulants are known to cause some impressive sharting, of which the gas fraction a certain percentage is CH4. As for combustion ratio a static fire test is not recommended only a spin prime.

Anonymous No. 16370751

>>16370741
>>16370745
cap

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Anonymous No. 16370758

>>16370744
>I'm gonna fuck the moon

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Anonymous No. 16370759

Deep Blue Aerospace had a launch attempt of their suborbital hopper yesterday (for a first 10 km VTVL test, then 100km after), scrubed but are trying again today

Anonymous No. 16370761

>>16370744
>thank you for backing up your claims
They aren't my claims you fucking imbecile. You wanted to play le skeptical armchair scientist and have a faggoty pedantic internet argument even going so far as to inject your unfounded suppositions as fact and got shut the fuck down.

Anonymous No. 16370762

>>16370711
meth is a chiral mirror of fucking OTC anti-sniffle juice

Anonymous No. 16370765

can we stop talking about meth and start talking about methane please.

Anonymous No. 16370767

>>16370765
stimulants will be essential for future spaceflight missions, you don't understand

Anonymous No. 16370769

>>16370759
That sure is a big flame diverter, but I'm working on western construction costs
They probably dug it with a bunch of shovels in a week

Anonymous No. 16370771

>>16370765
how else am I supposed to fund lunar brutality

Anonymous No. 16370774

>>16370724
Oh, no! My chair is ruined.

Anonymous No. 16370776

>>16370741
it will just work fine

Anonymous No. 16370779

Are we going?

Anonymous No. 16370782

>>16370779
failed the 7 trips, we are not gaan. one fucking job man

Anonymous No. 16370790

>>16370741
that's how you disassemble welded structures like that, it's just how it works
it's not even hard if you know what you're doing

Anonymous No. 16370792

>>16370790
>>16370599

Anonymous No. 16370796

>>16370790
yeah just weld it back together it will be fine lmao

Anonymous No. 16370798

>>16370722
It is, space is the ultimate "externalize your costs" location. Once launch costs go down it starts getting extremely attractive.
Need room? Space is infinite. And they actually do make more of it.
Need power? SSO and you'll never be out of sunlight. You actually run on SBSP without the transmission losses.
Need bandwidth? Elon is launching more commsats every week.
Launch a radiator big enough and your cooling is free for as long as that radiator functions.
Need secure disposal? Built-in incinerator right below you.
No use taxes, no property taxes, no maintenance fees.

The only problem with all of this is that the whole business case is designed for servers that never need servicing. MTBF in datacenters is measured in /hours/. Solar flares will fuck you up. Bit flips will happen all the time. You're basically going to have to launch an enormous amount of spare capacity kept idle to get any longevity out of it.

Anonymous No. 16370799

>>16370724
based fellow /sfg/ nudist

Anonymous No. 16370800

>>16370796
putting it back together is a whole process, yes, but it's not harder than welding it together in the first place

Anonymous No. 16370802

>>16370798
just put your server monkey on station

Anonymous No. 16370803

>cutting and welding 3d-printed parts
yeah, what can go wrong

Anonymous No. 16370804

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-YcVLq98Ew
>the data centers in spaaaace startup doesnt work out mathematically according to hullo
what now? do investors sue for getting scammed?

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Anonymous No. 16370807

>>16370769
Apparently they built an equivalent launch site in 3 months in the middle of the gobi desert (actually quite far away from Jiuquan, like 100km+ away), which is where it's currently being tested.

Anonymous No. 16370808

starship is $1 per pound

Anonymous No. 16370809

>>16370798
>no maintenance fees.
Maintenance fees are going to be extremely high compared to ground-based counterparts. Spacewalks and orbital servicing missions are never going to be cheap compared to contracting terrestrial plumping, electrician, or IT work.

>No use taxes, no property taxes
This is painfully naive. Right now the government takes everything that is practical and then a bit extra through the various licensing requirements for spaceflight. As soon as it thinks it can justify a new way to steal more of your money that is exactly what it is going to do.

Anonymous No. 16370810

>>16370803
I don't think it's 3d printed, I thought it was cut and welded pipe

Anonymous No. 16370811

>>16370804
he did not say that

Anonymous No. 16370812

17:05:34 No.16370802
17:05:59 No.16370803
17:08:34 No.16370804

oh no...
>tfw

>>16370811
>>16370810
>17:14:25
>17:15:26

oh no no no no no
hee ahhahahahahahahaha
*heeeee*

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Anonymous No. 16370814

>>16370214
uh what? ILS Proton was already doing $2,500/kg (like $4,000 today with inflation) to LEO 25 years ago.

Launch price actually hasn't really gotten down much, what has gotten down is reliable launch price, Proton wasn't reliable, and Ariane or Atlas were more expensive. F9 gives ~2000 ILS Proton or Starsem Soyuz prices with unmatched reliability, and rideshare.

Anonymous No. 16370815

>>16370741
not my area, but seems if it's still possible to inspect them and it greatly helps reusability and manufacturability, isn't that a good trade? like they'll make so many you can just swap them out if something looks iffy and then do the surgeries "offline" before bringing them back into service. idk.

Anonymous No. 16370816

>16370812
look, a schizo

Anonymous No. 16370818

no
don't point out the numbers and timestamps being exactly a minute apart

Anonymous No. 16370819

>>16370812
oops

Anonymous No. 16370821

>>16370798
>Space is infinite
>SSO
lol, pick one

Anonymous No. 16370822

>>16370812
that first one is just a coincidence actually

Anonymous No. 16370823

this whole board is 4 people repliying to themselves and occasionally each other.

Anonymous No. 16370824

>>16370823
false, me and you are the only ones here

Anonymous No. 16370825

>>16370825
no you

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Anonymous No. 16370827

>>16370825

Anonymous No. 16370829

>>16370814
Falcon 9 could have brought down launch prices a lot more but it didn't need to because its only real competition was Proton and Ariane 5. The only real competition it has now is Ariane 6 and Vulcan, so circumstances haven't really changed. Starship will lower the $/kg more but that's only because it'll have to compete with other reusable launch vehicles like New Glenn and Nova, and it'll only bring things down enough to make it the best option on the market. The rest will get pocketed as profit.

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Anonymous No. 16370832

>>16370825

Anonymous No. 16370833

>>16370825
how the fr*ck did you do that

Anonymous No. 16370834

>>16370833
it's not terribly difficult on a slow board like /sci/
I saw someone do it on /v/ once, now that was impressive

Anonymous No. 16370835

>>16370834
>>16370833
real niggas used to do that shit on /b/ back when it was busy

Anonymous No. 16370836

>>16370833
IIRC you can even do future posts
>>16370837

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370839

>>16370838
fail

Anonymous No. 16370845

orbital data depots

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370849

>>16370833
get >>16370847

Anonymous No. 16370850

>>16370825
damn son

Anonymous No. 16370856

>>16370850
Whered you find this

Anonymous No. 16370857

>>16370856
trapaholics mixtape, we make it look easy

Anonymous No. 16370858

>>16370825
insane

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>>16370825
That's insane

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Anonymous No. 16370860

WE GAAN

Anonymous No. 16370863

6 hours until launch (maybe, probably not)

Anonymous No. 16370866

>40%
hey guys I'm flipping a coin to see if they launch tonight. heads the will tails they scrub. just a second

Anonymous No. 16370867

>>16370860
fuck I have a job interview tommorow goddamnit elon

Anonymous No. 16370868

>>16370866
>a coin
you should flip 5

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Anonymous No. 16370870

>>16370866
sorry fellas, looks like it scrubs tonight.

Anonymous No. 16370871

>>16370418
i had the same problem
i just dont wear condoms anymore

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Anonymous No. 16370876

>>16370870
the Space Jew says otherwise

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16370877

Every time I see a photo of sarah gillis I get depressed that I don’t have a space gf

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Anonymous No. 16370878

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/nasa-will-proceed-with-final-preps-to-launch-europa-clipper-next-month/
>After four months of testing similar transistors on the ground, engineers determined the transistors on Europa Clipper could withstand the extreme radiation the spacecraft would encounter around Jupiter, without any changes to the mission's flight plan or trajectory.

Anonymous No. 16370880

>>16370876
>returns to earth during peak hurricane season
thats gotta be nerve wracking

Anonymous No. 16370882

>>16370713
There isn't any boil off in the header tanks and you can just send insulated tankers. So no and no. Relight after 8 months might be a problem but who knows

Anonymous No. 16370883

>>16370741
They'll just toss them if they're broken. At the planned Starship production rate they'll be making 50 a day

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Anonymous No. 16370884

What's the blonde chick's name and expertise? She's a qt3.14
>>16370880
Can't be much worse than going to space to begin with. Imagine the kino when they're stuck in space and have to consume each other's emissions to survive because the weather unexpectedly turned bad.

Anonymous No. 16370889

alright fags, whos staying up for this lunch?

Anonymous No. 16370892

>>16370884
eating shit provides no calories as its already 'waste' that took out as many calories as possible, similar situation with piss where its just whatever the body didnt need. there is no point in doing so, you may as well just starve instead of eating shit. why do you think so many in history have died of starvation if we couldve just ate shit this whole time?

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Anonymous No. 16370894

>>16370825

Anonymous No. 16370897

>>16370889
ME
getting some jack in the box. it's so disgusting but I can't stop

Anonymous No. 16370898

>>16370892
This post fucking reeks of reddit bugmanism, don't you have any sense of humor at all? Fuck you. You didn't even respond to the actual constructive part of the post where I wanted to learn what the qt's job was.

Anonymous No. 16370900

>>16370563
Solar wind loss is not relevant on those timescales

Anonymous No. 16370901

>>16370898
thats because i didnt know what her job was. why would i respond to that if i didnt know? also thats a shit joke

Anonymous No. 16370902

>>16370894
save us star citizen

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Anonymous No. 16370903

>>16370889
nah, liftoffs are boring

Anonymous No. 16370910

>>16369600
They're a leftover from the 90s when launch costs seemed impossibly high so people were looking for gimmicky loopholes
cf. space elevator

Anonymous No. 16370911

>>16369620
I never liked oldspace because the vehicles looked like ramshackle contraptions barely holding together
Yes that includes the LEM
Starship looks like a real spaceship

Anonymous No. 16370912

>>16370898
https://polarisprogram.com/team/anna-menon/

Anonymous No. 16370913

>>16370911
My brother in christ Starship looks like a ramshackle contraption barely holding it together

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>>16370911
>ramshackle contraptions barely holding together
sovl
>real spaceship
onions-fi slop

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Anonymous No. 16370915

>>16369866
This is how you do it.

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Anonymous No. 16370916

>>16370912
>anna menon
>agamemnon

Anonymous No. 16370917

>>16370913
>My brother in christ
<--- 2021 is that way

Anonymous No. 16370918

>>16370914
You know it's real because it's covered in crinkly fabric

Anonymous No. 16370919

>>16370917
but thats the edge of screen

Anonymous No. 16370921

>>16370916
>Agamemnon's family history had been tarnished by murder, incest, and treachery
so she's an extra spicy latina

Anonymous No. 16370922

>>16370919
Keep going

Anonymous No. 16370923

>>16370922
now its my wang

Anonymous No. 16370924

>>16370914
I fucking love the tinfoil wrapped pringles cans floating through the void. It's both eerie and amazing.
>>16370912
thank you, although entirely unsurprisingly unlike my animes the 3d qts do not stay unmarried in service of my imagination. I though I read that she was a SpaceX employee somewhere.

Anonymous No. 16370928

>>16370916
ATREIDES!

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Anonymous No. 16370933

>>16370929
how long did this take you?

Anonymous No. 16370936

>>16370933
Two weeks

Anonymous No. 16370943

>>16370878
I listened to part of that call earlier, is that terribly important? It sounds like it'll be fine.

Anonymous No. 16370946

>>16370936
ǝɯiʇ ɟo ǝƃɐssɐd ʇɔǝɟɟɐ ʎʇiʌɐɹƃ uʍop ǝpisdn ǝɥʇ sǝop

Anonymous No. 16370947

HOUSE ATREIDES ACCEPTS!!

Anonymous No. 16370948

>>16370148
Why is every EDSer fat or balding

Anonymous No. 16370953

inb4 polaris dawn comes home on starliner

Anonymous No. 16370963

>>16370953
do not redeem saarliner ticket!!!

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Anonymous No. 16370977

Ugh I have to make a gantt chart and conops for this project then go gym for an hour before I can watch Dawn take off fuck this is going to be a boring 4 hours

Anonymous No. 16370980

>>16370977
its going to get scrubbed anyways, don't bother

Anonymous No. 16370981

>>16370977
it's going to be even more boring when polaris scrubs at T-12:36

Anonymous No. 16371003

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8fbz_sVfU
28 mins

Anonymous No. 16371013

>>16370946
Time flows backwards here
Polaris Dawn somehow came down with one extra passenger

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Anonymous No. 16371014

Concert in space soon

Anonymous No. 16371016

>>16371014
ngmi

Anonymous No. 16371019

>>16371013
spooky

Anonymous No. 16371024

>>16371014
dresses and skirts in 0g must be amazing, so many opportunities to look up women's skirt without a concrete down direction and gravity

Anonymous No. 16371028

>>16371024
how can you look 'up' a woman's skirt when there is no up?

Anonymous No. 16371030

>>16371028
The enemy's snatch is up

Anonymous No. 16371031

>>16371024
why is that all you can think about when in space?

Anonymous No. 16371032

>>16371028
good point
to rephrase, there are so many opportunities to see what is underneath a woman's dress or skirt
>>16371031
i think about plenty of other space and spaceflight matters, why are you assuming i can only think about women's bodies? besides, humans will need an active sex drive if we hope to populate the worlds we colonize

Anonymous No. 16371035

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yNGaglXzqNxj 25 minutes

Anonymous No. 16371038

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8fbz_sVfU
Get in here.

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Anonymous No. 16371039

>>16371030

Anonymous No. 16371040

>>16371038
no thanks

Anonymous No. 16371046

>>16371030
"enemy gate" still works

Anonymous No. 16371047

>>16371039
has Ian's art escaped containment or are you a fan

Anonymous No. 16371048

>GET THE FUCK IN HERE
GET THE FUCK IN HERE
>GET THE FUCK IN HERE
GET THE FUCK IN HERE
>GET THE FUCK IN HERE
GET THE FUCK IN HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8fbz_sVfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8fbz_sVfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8fbz_sVfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8fbz_sVfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8fbz_sVfU

Anonymous No. 16371050

>>16371038
>>16371048
>NSF

Why?

Anonymous No. 16371051

>>16371050
best angles, you can mute them if you dont like their talking but they have cut down on the shilling in recent streams from what ive seen. also official spacex stream isnt up yet i dont think.

Anonymous No. 16371052

>>16371050
because spacex no longer hosts on youtube

Anonymous No. 16371053

>>16371052
sure they do. I'll get to watch polaris launch just as soon as elon musk stops talking about crypto

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Anonymous No. 16371055

reminder we had an autist at starbase

Anonymous No. 16371057

>>16371047
I think I saved it from /sfg/ actually
>>16371048
I am not staying up another 4 hours, I'll just read about it on here tomorrow morning to see if it scrubbed/launched/exploded

Anonymous No. 16371064

>>16371057
pathetic

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Anonymous No. 16371065

>>16371055
we had multiple

Anonymous No. 16371068

>>16371055
>reminder we had an autist at starbase
uh yeah? it's literally owned by one

Anonymous No. 16371069

>>16371068
elon doesnt post here

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Anonymous No. 16371071

>>16371035
>https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yNGaglXzqNxj
its just hanging?

Anonymous No. 16371072

>>16371069
that you know of

Anonymous No. 16371073

>>16371071
yeah the link got removed from the spacex.com page too

Anonymous No. 16371077

>>16371055
Was anyone else at the first launch with me? I was sitting right by Cristo de los Pescadores.

Anonymous No. 16371078

>>16371073
Scrub?

Anonymous No. 16371079

>>16371078
no scroob so far

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Anonymous No. 16371080

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1833354483101036751

Anonymous No. 16371087

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833358277805039800
We're live.

Anonymous No. 16371089

>>16371087
oh shit closing NSF now

Anonymous No. 16371093

how is the x player STILL THIS SHIT

Anonymous No. 16371097

>>16371093
because scamlon husk is a terrible CEO

Anonymous No. 16371098

>>16371087
>only 45k total views
its over

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>but when she speaks, time for everyone to stop and listen
it just matches it too closely sorry

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Anonymous No. 16371106

https://www.youtube.com/live/cAs5qzu9VwQ
this is a restream that doesn't go down when x stream shits the bed if anyone wants that

Anonymous No. 16371107

>>16371093
because the second they make it full featured they're going to get slammed with YouTube levels of traffic

Anonymous No. 16371108

inspructkerrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Anonymous No. 16371109

>>16371106
thank fuck

Anonymous No. 16371110

>>16371106
im not watching this fatty

Anonymous No. 16371111

>>16371108
he's back!

Anonymous No. 16371113

>>16371108
i want this nigga calling the catch

Anonymous No. 16371116

>>16371105
been spending too much time on /k/ and read
>skinwalker

Anonymous No. 16371117

>>16371113
thats gay

Anonymous No. 16371118

looking sharp

Anonymous No. 16371119

THJEYRE HERE AHHHHH I WANT A SPACESUIT OF MY OWN

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Anonymous No. 16371120

kino

Anonymous No. 16371122

do we have a pic of the HUD yet

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Anonymous No. 16371124

we need an all female mission

Anonymous No. 16371125

You just know Musk tapped both of them personally.

Anonymous No. 16371127

where's the spongebob poster?

Anonymous No. 16371128

>>16371124
>>16371125
shut up and let me enjoy this mission you freaks

Anonymous No. 16371129

well, i'm emotionally invested now

Anonymous No. 16371130

>>16371127
forgot to set his alarm

Anonymous No. 16371133

im tired
wake me up when it launches

Anonymous No. 16371136

>>16371133
set an alarm

Anonymous No. 16371138

>st jude cancer kids get their drawings in space
good for them

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Anonymous No. 16371141

>>16371127
>>16371130
kek, he must be asleep rn

Anonymous No. 16371142

>>16371140
Hate these suits

Anonymous No. 16371143

Holy shit these suits are actually good, they look good, and look much more maneuverable, they actually have a spring in their step when they got out

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Anonymous No. 16371145

SOON.

Anonymous No. 16371148

105k views

Anonymous No. 16371152

I used to whistle into the reciever of an old rotary phone to dial numbers you aren't normally allowed to.

Freaked me out the first time I found out that worked, was nine or some shit.

Anonymous No. 16371153

>>16371127
the lack of a spongebob poster is a good sign we'll actually get a launch today

Anonymous No. 16371154

>>16371148
112k now

Anonymous No. 16371156

>>16371154
I wonder if these are 'views' or 'viewers'. It says views but it could also be viewers since its live.

Anonymous No. 16371157

>>16371156
x viewer counts is dumb. all you have to do is scroll past the post and it counts as a view

Anonymous No. 16371159

>>16371154
all me

Anonymous No. 16371160

when are we getting one of those european cripple astronauts?

Anonymous No. 16371162

>>16371160
When ESA pays for one to go up.

Anonymous No. 16371163

SpaceX employees in their own Dragon heading to space

So cool

Anonymous No. 16371167

I really like the look of those space suits, they look like aliens

Anonymous No. 16371168

>>16371167
They look like motorcyclists

Anonymous No. 16371169

>>16371145
>>16371167
the kino EVA suit

Anonymous No. 16371171

>>16371167
Its such an improvement over the IVA's that they should just switch to these entirely, run up that production/manufacturing process, get it started

Anonymous No. 16371172

>touchscreen panels

For real?
Where are the mechanical buttons and switches?

If your monitor fails everything is fucked.
Having the control system tied in with the display is dumb.

Anonymous No. 16371175

>>16371163
SpaceX should make this staff benefit.
Every year four employees chosen on random get to go to space riding a Dragon.

Anonymous No. 16371176

>>16371171
Seriously NASA needs to offer them a contract at this point

Anonymous No. 16371177

>>16371172
Shut up, retard.

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Anonymous No. 16371179

we need a double dragon mission just for the patch

Anonymous No. 16371180

>>16371177
Based

Anonymous No. 16371181

fat elon

Anonymous No. 16371183

>Medical Officer
>Mission Specialist
>Pilot
>Commander

What other sections will there be for crew in the future?

Anonymous No. 16371185

>>16371183
Flight Attendant

Anonymous No. 16371186

>>16371183
EVA Technician
Comms Officer
Photographer

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Anonymous No. 16371187

>>16371172
it has buttons too

Anonymous No. 16371188

>>16371183
>Space Marshal
>Engineer

Anonymous No. 16371189

>>16371176
Let's see how well they work first, as well as what might be missing for longer duration and lunar use.

Anonymous No. 16371190

>>16371183
janny

Anonymous No. 16371192

>>16371172
Huge midwit energy jesus christ

Anonymous No. 16371193

>>16371187
>HISTORY ERASOR
the what now

Anonymous No. 16371196

>>16371189
>as well as what might be missing for longer duration and lunar use.
Definitely a good point, it'll be interesting to see how they out engineer those problems (dust and radiation immediately come to mind)

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Anonymous No. 16371197

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1833347271003718107

Regulatory paperworks still in process. When will this bullshit end? 2 more years of regulatory delays?

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Anonymous No. 16371198

>>16369583
i just woke up! i am so excited to watch the polaris dawn mission today!

Anonymous No. 16371200

>>16371197
cant wait for a minimum of 10 years of paper work to land on mars

Anonymous No. 16371201

>>16371187
okay that's good
still I would be annoyed at having to use a touchscreen for things that could be done with a big keyboard or some other shit

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Anonymous No. 16371203

>>16371193
You're not going to touch it, are you?

Anonymous No. 16371204

>>16371198
lol, you are finally here sir

Anonymous No. 16371205

>>16371152
what do you mean

Anonymous No. 16371206

>>16371156
every time the stream hangs and somebody refreshes the page, the view number increases by one

Anonymous No. 16371208

>>16371197
Remove Biden admin. Get a new one thats friendly to space exploration

Anonymous No. 16371209

isnt black for the ninja's color a bad idea? shouldnt they be blue or yellow or something? you can hardly see them. what if there's an emergency?

Anonymous No. 16371210

I wonder if they've tried hyperoxygenation breath techniques in training.

Anonymous No. 16371213

>>16371197
based 702 Alauda poster

Anonymous No. 16371218

What is Insprucker yapping about

Anonymous No. 16371220

>the astronauts have to get an enema before departing
wtf

Anonymous No. 16371221

>>16371220
imagine the smell

Anonymous No. 16371223

>>16371220
see? it's not that easy in astronautry, anon

Anonymous No. 16371225

stream froze, nice servers elon

Anonymous No. 16371226

170k viewers and xitter is shitting itself again

Anonymous No. 16371227

>>16371220
Probably an issue between the difference between the suit pressure during EVA and the normal pressure inside the bowels.

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Anonymous No. 16371228

>winxp
wtf update your shit nasa

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Anonymous No. 16371229

I have a speech prepared for T-1 minute

Anonymous No. 16371230

>>16371227
This is also why snibbidi snab victims will ngts. The launch acceleration would be like stepping on a whoopee cushion full of blood.

Anonymous No. 16371231

>>16371230
>snibbidi
Skibidi?

Anonymous No. 16371232

God is there a single restream that isn't complete trash

Anonymous No. 16371233

>>16371226
The stream is screwed up on X as well?

Anonymous No. 16371234

>Launch scrubbed again
Lol whatever

Anonymous No. 16371235

>>16371230
IF YOU'RE CIRCUMCISIONED YOU CAN'T BE AN ASTRONAUT????

Anonymous No. 16371236

>>16371235
No, you didn't know that? Lol

Anonymous No. 16371237

>>16371234
fake and gay

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Anonymous No. 16371238

>back to mars

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Anonymous No. 16371239

>>16371234
Not scroobed idjit

Anonymous No. 16371240

>>16371235
this is why only freemasons and atheists were astronauts

Anonymous No. 16371241

shouldnt have fired everyone at twitter after all

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Anonymous No. 16371243

>>16371232
isn't Clear streaming ???

Anonymous No. 16371245

>>16371243
if she was I wouldn't be asking

Anonymous No. 16371246

PUT THE STREAMS BACK ON YOUTUBE, ELON, YOU SUCK AT STREAMING.

Anonymous No. 16371247

Time to tune back in to NSF. Come in everyone, no bitching and moaning lets go.

Anonymous No. 16371248

>>16371241
He should have fired them but replaced them with competent engineers. I distinctly remember old twitter being a buggy piece of shit too when it came to things like twitter spaces.

Anonymous No. 16371249

>>16371242
elon basterd, should've spent that money on starship instead

Anonymous No. 16371250

okay stream back???

Anonymous No. 16371251

PSA EVERYONE, SpaceX did a deal with NSF and they are getting the exact same angles as them including inside the capsule as stated by them
>>16371247

Anonymous No. 16371252

streamsms backk

Anonymous No. 16371253

>>16371220
Nothing to do with space - it's just Elon's policy.

Anonymous No. 16371254

live again

Anonymous No. 16371255

2hours.....1:30am now

fuuuckk

Anonymous No. 16371256

>>16371247
>>16371251
Only faggots watch NSF have some self respect

Anonymous No. 16371257

>>16371243
>>16371245
can't find her stream, maybe she'll start later

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Anonymous No. 16371258

Two fuckin hours?!
I'm not waiting that long

Anonymous No. 16371259

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1833237128144425387
>What forced Congress' hand was not shame at the price, or a realization that there may not be an SLS available. Rather, it was an internal study finding that the rocket's solid rocket boosters would have shaken the relatively light Clipper violently.

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Anonymous No. 16371260

>>16371255

Anonymous No. 16371263

>>16371253
>mandatory enemas
Has mass autism gone too far?

Anonymous No. 16371264

>>16371243
She had to dilate

Anonymous No. 16371265

>>16371263
No thats just so they dont shit themselves for as long as possible up there.

Anonymous No. 16371266

you will never eat doritos cool ranch in space

if doritos dust is a problem they can solve by reengineering them, they should have no problem with mars dust lol

Anonymous No. 16371267

>NSF is now advertising Pringles goyslop

Anonymous No. 16371269

>>16371267
lmao, everyone knows Lay Stax is better, how lame

Anonymous No. 16371270

zubrin-flavored doritos

Anonymous No. 16371271

>>16371267
Nigger they are literally taking them up in the capsule use your ears for once. Stop making me defend NSF

Anonymous No. 16371272

Time for some space marine 2

Anonymous No. 16371273

doritos flavored doritos

Anonymous No. 16371274

>>16371269
>>16371267
theyre mini blue doritos not pringles. this is also the most redditor snack they couldve chosen.

Anonymous No. 16371275

>>16371271
Based verification can drinker

Anonymous No. 16371276

>>16371272
Play Dawn of War Dark Crusade instead

Anonymous No. 16371277

oh you wanted to snack on some tasty doritos in space
well the dust is going to be a problem

we'll just grease the doritos and make them tiny
no dust no problem

what do you mean there's dust on mars too
fugg

Anonymous No. 16371279

fuck doritos, I want space cheetos, lats make LEO dangerously cheesy

Anonymous No. 16371281

>>16371277
Well you're not supposed to eat the Mars dust either

Anonymous No. 16371282

>/sfg/ - Super Fat General

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16371283

>>16371279
now im reminded of the kpop idol with orange feet and al the feetfags would say its time to get dangerously cheesy and start posting her feet

Anonymous No. 16371285

>>16371283
fucking footfags everywhere

Anonymous No. 16371286

>>16371283
confusedBobBehnken.jpg

Anonymous No. 16371291

I'm glad they didn't choose some kiked charity like doctors without borders or one of the scam cancer 'awareness' charities like GDQ.

Anonymous No. 16371292

>>16371291
What charity did they choose?

Anonymous No. 16371293

>>16371292
St Jude

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Anonymous No. 16371294

>>16370469
We have the technology

Anonymous No. 16371296

>>16370731
Announcing a report is illegal

Anonymous No. 16371298

>>16371183
Musician. Every crew needs one.

Anonymous No. 16371299

Twits in charge of streaming or Boeing financed DDOS?

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Anonymous No. 16371300

>>16370469
>>16371294
We have even more advanced technology

Anonymous No. 16371304

>>16371296
>>16371296

Anonymous No. 16371305

>>16371183
Clown

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Anonymous No. 16371306

i dont want to hear any more bitching that spacex doesnt hire DEI

Anonymous No. 16371308

>>16371183
I am surprised nobody brought up some sort of sex worker.

Anonymous No. 16371309

>>16371187
How do you decide between "Breakout" and "Super Breakout"

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Anonymous No. 16371310

RANCH
or
COOL RANCH

Anonymous No. 16371311

What the FUCK did Kate do to her hair? It looks like Cousin It is sitting on her head.

Anonymous No. 16371312

>>16371310
Ranch is disgusting. Cool ranch doritos taste good. Cool ranch wins.

Anonymous No. 16371313

>>16371306
Dying your hair should be illegal on Mars

Anonymous No. 16371314

>>16371306
What a freak lol

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Anonymous No. 16371315

>>16371309
one of them is super

Anonymous No. 16371316

>>16371310
nacho cheese gang

Anonymous No. 16371317

How much delta-v is in a single fart?

Anonymous No. 16371318

>>16371317
<1m/s

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Anonymous No. 16371320

>>16371311
wtf

Anonymous No. 16371321

>>16371310
3d cool ranch

Anonymous No. 16371322

>>16371321
What.

Anonymous No. 16371323

"the skywalker"
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS

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>>16371310

Anonymous No. 16371326

we need to get away from the need for spacesuits, even starship cant have flight suits if we want space travel to be regular and routine

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Anonymous No. 16371327

>>16371324

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Anonymous No. 16371328

>>16371326
Are you suggesting we evolve in to vacuumorphs

Anonymous No. 16371331

>>16371328
this can be achieved with periodic exposure to vacuum

Anonymous No. 16371332

>>16371331
those who survive the exposure are allowed to reproduce. those who do not get turned into mushroom food.

Anonymous No. 16371336

>>16371193
Pressing this and "emergency deorbit" at once unlocks a combo

Anonymous No. 16371337

>>16371308
>sex worker
You mean a prostitute or a whore?

Anonymous No. 16371340

>>16371320
How did she age 20 years since the last stream?

Anonymous No. 16371341

>>16371337
He means your mom

Anonymous No. 16371342

>>16371332
we must breed a race of space adapted ubermensch

Anonymous No. 16371343

These women are really cringe, talking about the useless knick knacks they're bringing up with them

Anonymous No. 16371345

>>16371332
Not just allowed: required.

Anonymous No. 16371346

>>16371336
What the fuck has musk done with my brain, i just woke up sure, but i read that as “pregnancy orbit”

Anonymous No. 16371347

IT'S HIM

Anonymous No. 16371350

>spacex has a houston office
wtf since when

Anonymous No. 16371351

>>16371346
that's the orbit elon will send shotwell up to

Anonymous No. 16371354

>>16371350
It looks like they do crew research there to work with NASA Houston.

Anonymous No. 16371356

how much do you think this mission costed isaacman?

Anonymous No. 16371357

>>16371356
lol that question pissed him off at the presser event

Anonymous No. 16371358

>>16371351
Might it make sense in certain radiation environments to create a specialized shielded station where pregnant women stay for the duration of their pregnancy?

Anonymous No. 16371359

GO AWAY CUMULUS CLOUDS

HEYYYACHKUH HEEYYAK HUUUH HYAAAAN CHACTKA HEYYYAKA

Anonymous No. 16371360

>>16371358
>the ovulation station

Anonymous No. 16371363

BOOM boom boom boom BOOM boom boom boom
HEEYAA HOOOYAAA HEEEYAAA HOYYA

cmon sfg do the weather dance. lets get green on the board

Anonymous No. 16371364

>>16371357
why would it?

Anonymous No. 16371367

fuck this I'm going to bed, I'll watch the replay

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Anonymous No. 16371368

ASS LASER

Anonymous No. 16371370

Will this be feature length or will it unfold over several hours?

Anonymous No. 16371371

weather decision in 8 minutes

Anonymous No. 16371372

>BUILDING CITIES
whew

Anonymous No. 16371373

>>16371358
Well you'd want a solar storm shelter either way. In space you can orient the ship so the propellant tanks are between you and the sun as well.
I reckon by the time you're having planned pregnancies on Mars you're gonna have radiation shielded habitats for everyday use anyway.

Anonymous No. 16371375

>>16371371
Three minutes to scrub.

Anonymous No. 16371376

>teleprompter translated 10nm (nautical miles) to 10 nanometres
kek

Anonymous No. 16371379

>>16371376
That's why you use nmi for clarity.

Anonymous No. 16371381

>>16371371
well, its been 9 mins, what is the decision?

Anonymous No. 16371382

>>16371376
clearly they mean newton meters

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Anonymous No. 16371383

>>16371371
"Kidd Poteet" is not a plausible name
Who is this guy really

Anonymous No. 16371385

>>16371381
They're starting prop load.

Anonymous No. 16371386

it's over

Anonymous No. 16371387

>no go for weather
Pack it up

Anonymous No. 16371388

GO
JUST FUCKING GO

Anonymous No. 16371389

>>16371381
prop load start but weather is still no go

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Anonymous No. 16371391

>no go
no go
>no go
no go
>no go
no go

Anonymous No. 16371392

I'VE GOT
GOOOOO
FEVER

Anonymous No. 16371394

OH MY GOD
WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT
CAN'T HANDLE A LITTLE RAIN

Anonymous No. 16371395

S C R U B
C
R
U
B

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Anonymous No. 16371397

HODL

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Anonymous No. 16371398

>I wish- *cough* I wish i had....watched more....aborted rocket launches *beeeeeeeeep*

Anonymous No. 16371399

>>16370487
>each would cover up to hundreds of square kilometers
for now just say thousands of square meters so people don't brush you off as a delusional tard

Anonymous No. 16371401

>>16371396
5 hours 6 min for me

Anonymous No. 16371402

>2.5 hours
nah fuck it im out

Anonymous No. 16371403

new T0
>2:33am Pacific
FUCK

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Anonymous No. 16371404

FUCK THIS
I'm going back to sleep

Anonymous No. 16371405

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tls8Neie2Q

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Anonymous No. 16371408

if im paying $500 million for a launch then it better be able to launch and land in any weather

Anonymous No. 16371409

hope they can hold it in that long

Anonymous No. 16371410

>>16371399
A hundred thousand square meters is a hundred square kilometers do it's pretty much the same.

Anonymous No. 16371411

>>16371410
wow
one metric square megameter

Anonymous No. 16371413

>>16371407
>watch anything you want
>you decide to watch the hot garbage that is spaceballs

Anonymous No. 16371414

>>16371413
Everything these people do is a meme.

Anonymous No. 16371415

how do we build weather resilient reusable spacecraft? How the hell can anyone expect to launch hundreds or thousands of times a year when you have weeks of constant no-go weather

Anonymous No. 16371416

>>16371415
copy the soviet method

Anonymous No. 16371417

>>16371415
Starship has no abort mode so they wouldn't need to worry about this 10 nm thing.

Anonymous No. 16371418

>>16371415
design them to.

Anonymous No. 16371419

>>16371340
The Wall spares no woman.

Anonymous No. 16371421

>>16371402
>>16371403
Weaklings

Anonymous No. 16371422

>>16371419
Jessie looks gorgeous as ever after starting ozempic

Anonymous No. 16371424

>>16371383
mossad

Anonymous No. 16371425

Nuke the weather to create an opening

Anonymous No. 16371426

break out the cloudbusters

Anonymous No. 16371432

>>16371415
Making the rocket bigger and RTLS-all-the-time fixes a lot of these. Falcon is fussy because it needs barge safety and is super skinny so is extra vulnerable to cross winds.

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Anonymous No. 16371434

>>16371208
>Get a new one thats friendly to space exploration

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Anonymous No. 16371435

yeah sorry im not staying up until 5 am for another potential scroob. at 4:45 the storms seem to reform out where they were in the first place, its a no go you can screenshot this.

Anonymous No. 16371436

>>16371407
>sit in a capsule all night every day for the rest of your life just for them to tell you there were too many clouds
Humiliation ritual

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Anonymous No. 16371437

We gaan.

Anonymous No. 16371438

>>16371415
It'll happen once its neccesary

Anonymous No. 16371440

>>16371415
Starship expands the window of tolerance. Also they want to be extra cautious with human space flight with weather

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16371441

Wait is this a possible halo effect launch? Wouldnt Polaris be launching towards day time at 5 AM to the East?

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Anonymous No. 16371444

seems to be a bit more luxurious than starliner, sweating their fucking balls off

Anonymous No. 16371445

POG?

Anonymous No. 16371446

>>16371444
Yeah Starliner and Orion are practically 20th century, they're so janky. Dragon is the first properly comfy spacecraft interior.

Anonymous No. 16371447

>>16371444
the chairs get stowed away when they're in space too, creating extra room

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Anonymous No. 16371448

Did Kate use more or less time to prepare for this launch, nails are utlra red, hair is all wavy (maybe its naturally like this?)

Anonymous No. 16371449

>>16371448
I can see the pixels

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Anonymous No. 16371451

>>16371448
kate gets her nails did, jessie gets her head shaved

Anonymous No. 16371452

>>16371446
>>16371444
Imagine waiting out the scrubs in a Soyuz

Anonymous No. 16371453

>>16371448
Kate has always been ugly, hilarious you all are just now realizing

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Anonymous No. 16371455

>>16371453
this new look is tranny-coded somehow with the turbo red nails

Anonymous No. 16371456

>>16371448
Jessie looks like a Belter now.

Anonymous No. 16371458

>>16371454
so this is the power of mewing...

Anonymous No. 16371459

>>16371454
Absolutely insane jaw, I KNEEL

Anonymous No. 16371460

>All the excitement just gone because some small clouds on the launch site
Fix this or we will never become multiplanetary species

Anonymous No. 16371461

>>16371456
>now

Anonymous No. 16371464

>>16370148
maybe later

Anonymous No. 16371465

>>16371460
SpaceX is a dead company

Anonymous No. 16371466

>>16370637
so pretty common moving of the goalposts
"Ok, starship works and is as good as they said but why do you care so much?"
lmao

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Anonymous No. 16371467

fuck off already

Anonymous No. 16371468

>>16371080
ready to fly, hasn't it been like a few weeks now
I knew it was the fucking FAA

Anonymous No. 16371469

>>16371453
She used to be younger, blonde, and had big hooters. That covers up a lot.

Anonymous No. 16371471

>>16371468
Pretty much, they had some work to do on the chopsticks still but it almost seems like it's for a lack of other things to do to a certain extent.

Anonymous No. 16371473

>>16371467
Who is generating these clouds out of nothing?

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Anonymous No. 16371475

>>16371473
God fears us taking the heavens

Anonymous No. 16371478

>>16371473
Outflow from Francine to the west

Anonymous No. 16371479

Green range for weather rules

Anonymous No. 16371480

weather is GREEN

Anonymous No. 16371482

>the elbow is looking at 35% of violation, if it tracks like this for the next 20minutes, that will step down

Anonymous No. 16371483

Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range Green range

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Anonymous No. 16371484

seats are in launch position

Anonymous No. 16371485

It's not gomna fly

Anonymous No. 16371486

>>16371479
>>16371480
>>16371483
They need 20 more minutes to think about it, chud. That's 20 more minutes to generate a CLOOOOOUD

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Anonymous No. 16371487

LETSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous No. 16371488

>>16371487
T-MINUS 5 SECOND SCRUB HERE WE COME!!!

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Anonymous No. 16371489

They need to go now before this next wave of clouds gets too close.

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Anonymous No. 16371491

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1833306523553984680

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>>16371491
https://x.com/day_to_Mars/status/1833306676222693472

Anonymous No. 16371493

>>16371489
I SAID ONE HOUR AND TWELVE MINUTES CHUD

ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME?

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Anonymous No. 16371494

https://x.com/tsarnick/status/1833344713103184187

Anonymous No. 16371495

>>16371187
When the first colony starships launch to Mars they will press that history eraser button

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Anonymous No. 16371496

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1833346708614615491

Anonymous No. 16371497

>>16371496
Global warming

Anonymous No. 16371498

>>16371448
wtf, she turned into a hippie

Anonymous No. 16371499

>mandatory enema
>flight gets scrubbed

Anonymous No. 16371500

>>16371456
Is it because she’s black?

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Anonymous No. 16371501

https://x.com/elon_docs/status/1833165657136869411

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>>16371253
Maybe we really are on the Howard Hughs timeline

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>all these posters pulling their hair oit giving themselves sleep deprivation to watch
>meanwhile i just woke up comfy with 9 hours of sleep and a cup of coffee
Burgerland eet je hart uit

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Anonymous No. 16371507

>updated probability of violation is 20%

Anonymous No. 16371508

GO FOR LAUNCH
80% GREEN

Anonymous No. 16371509

>>16371500
It's the cyberpunk haor

Anonymous No. 16371510

>>16371491
https://x.com/dogeofficialceo/status/1833309482757329087

Anonymous No. 16371512

>>16371509
That and her Heinz 57 ancestry yeah.

Anonymous No. 16371514

>>16371510
Can you post more Ian miles Chong tweets?

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Anonymous No. 16371517

>>16371471
it seems like it's always they have some "minimum viable" flight test pretty much ready to go, but then they aren't allowed so they try to use the time to do more stuff.

Anonymous No. 16371518

>>16371220
and they scrubbed like 5 times lmao

Anonymous No. 16371519

>>16371518
Will they need a second enema today?

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Anonymous No. 16371520

chad

Anonymous No. 16371521

>>16371517
how far would spacex be now if they didn't have a bullshit 2 year delay due to EPA bullshit
I'm pretty sure they scrapped multiple prototypes during this time, which they could have flown (and no doubt blown up), but they would have found out about the need for more flame suppression in the engines way earlier, and all kinds of other things
not sure if the delay is the full 2 years, as SpaceX has been developing in the mean time, but who knows
some things you can't iterate without actually testing live

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Anonymous No. 16371523

>>16371501
nobody tell Elon the reason why the science presence in Antarctica is so large is because of all the biology research. despite what /a/ may tell you, there ain't no rabbits on the moon.

Anonymous No. 16371525

habbening

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Anonymous No. 16371526

ARM RETRACTED
LES ARMING
WEATHER GREEN
LET'S GO

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Anonymous No. 16371527

go for section 6, close visor and activate launch escape system

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Anonymous No. 16371528

>>16371527
*arming the LES, not activate

Anonymous No. 16371530

Insprucker is back. Nature is healing. He sounds old though.

Anonymous No. 16371531

>>16371516
I hope he lives long enough to see people walk on the moon again.

Anonymous No. 16371532

>>16371530
He sounds like he woke up at 4:00am for a scrooobed launch

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Anonymous No. 16371535

This mission needs a change of commander.

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Anonymous No. 16371537

WHERE IS HER STREAM???

Anonymous No. 16371538

So where's the toilet on Dragon?

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Anonymous No. 16371539

launch auto sequence has begun
propellant load starting

Anonymous No. 16371540

if it scrubs now, its going to be a scrub for the day

Anonymous No. 16371541

>>16371539
Nothing ever happens

Anonymous No. 16371542

>Official X stream is 720p
Am I doing something wrong or is it really only 720p?

Anonymous No. 16371543

>>16371537
i never noticed all these details.
god bless japanese character design autism.

Anonymous No. 16371544

>>16371473
ULA cloud seeding operation

Anonymous No. 16371545

>>16371542
no I think its just 720p

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Anonymous No. 16371546

>>16371542
He told you so.

Anonymous No. 16371547

>>16371543
She designed her model herself she's such a sweet, sincere, autistic girl I love Clear!

Anonymous No. 16371548

>>16371547
yeah she's cute, i'm glad she got to become representative of the japanese space agency lol.

Anonymous No. 16371549

>>16371548
I'm glad you're here and not outside molesting children.

Anonymous No. 16371550

I remember when she was streaming from an actual potato and her model was choppy as hell.

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Anonymous No. 16371552

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833424823780790674

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833427467911962711

Anonymous No. 16371553

Cryo helium load has started

Anonymous No. 16371554

nice jaw bro

Anonymous No. 16371555

>>16371523
Moon rabbits hide in caves

Anonymous No. 16371556

The EVA suit is crazy fucking slim if it works. It's like 80% of the way to scifi suits.

Anonymous No. 16371557

Any idea which radio frequency bands they use to communicate?

Anonymous No. 16371558

>>16371556
Of course it fucking works, it's not suitable for 7+ hours stints outside though.

Anonymous No. 16371559

>>16371556
this is gen 1 EVA, probably already obsolete

Anonymous No. 16371560

>the HUD isn't baked into the visor
lame

Anonymous No. 16371561

>>16371549
anime website.

Anonymous No. 16371562

why no sticky?

Anonymous No. 16371563

>>16371494
He's right.

Anonymous No. 16371564

>>16371556
They will come out with a real EVA suit and MMU system eventually

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Anonymous No. 16371565

>>16371556

Anonymous No. 16371566

>>16371494
>Epstein had his island
>Musk had his planet
holy based

Anonymous No. 16371567

>>16371562
please let's not do that, i'm happy with the amount of activity in the thread right now we don't need to make our presence known to a bunch of newfags.

Anonymous No. 16371569

>>16371562
Stickies are gay. Fuck them.

Anonymous No. 16371575

>>16371562
my hands are already sticky from choking the chicken to usui clear.

Anonymous No. 16371577

>>16371565
The Gemini suits were worse than the A7L in basically every way. Overheating death traps.

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Anonymous No. 16371578

https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1833391134610956756

the video about heatlh experiments that has been playing a few times

Anonymous No. 16371579

>>16371578
The contacts are pretty cool

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Anonymous No. 16371580

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1833418505213121014

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Anonymous No. 16371581

lets fly lads

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Anonymous No. 16371582

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833385289487614369

SpaceX has been posting a lot of the stuff on stream (the videos etc)

Anonymous No. 16371583

Clear is live

Anonymous No. 16371584

The youtube and twitter streams are so different

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Anonymous No. 16371585

>>16371582
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833386106596774147

vid about the suit design with the massive jaw dude

Anonymous No. 16371586

IS THAT A CLOUD? IM GONNA SCROOOOOOOOOOB

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Anonymous No. 16371588

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833424198103916691

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Anonymous No. 16371589

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833422987262820672

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Anonymous No. 16371591

>>16371543
Looks like schitzo shit desu lmao

Anonymous No. 16371592

>>16371583
wat is clear

Anonymous No. 16371593

>>16371583
What time is it in Nippon? Does she have a job?

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Anonymous No. 16371594

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833387070246551885

Anonymous No. 16371595

>>16371592
Jap tranny spacetuber

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Anonymous No. 16371596

A toast

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Anonymous No. 16371598

>>16371596

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Anonymous No. 16371600

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833384788452950017

Anonymous No. 16371602

Hurry up, I need to go to sleep.

Anonymous No. 16371603

>>16371602
>work night shift
>have night off
owned

Anonymous No. 16371606

Anna looks nervous

Anonymous No. 16371607

ABORT ABORT ABORT

Anonymous No. 16371608

>>16371607
It's HOLD HOLD HOLD retard-kun

Anonymous No. 16371609

>>16371607
>ULA SNIPERS TARGET THOSE HELIUM LINES!

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Anonymous No. 16371611

LET ME IN BITCH ELON BASTARD

Anonymous No. 16371612

Sniper has been granted permission to fire.

Anonymous No. 16371613

GO FOR LAUNCH

Anonymous No. 16371614

How do the burns look like is it straight to the spicy orbit?

Anonymous No. 16371615

FTS ARMED
ROCKET HOLDS THE CLOCK
GO FOR LAUNCH
T-30

Anonymous No. 16371617

I thought the strongback arm was the rocket falling over for a second

Anonymous No. 16371618

EXPLOSION

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Anonymous No. 16371619

liftoff

Anonymous No. 16371620

BRING IT BACK BLOODY BASTARDS!

Anonymous No. 16371621

Just realised this is the first Falcon 9 stream I've seen in like 2 years lol

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Anonymous No. 16371624

max Q 1 Bravo

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Anonymous No. 16371626

successful MECO

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Anonymous No. 16371627

Staged and SES1.

Anonymous No. 16371628

flawless chud victory

Anonymous No. 16371629

>>16371628
>foids in the capsule
It's over.

Anonymous No. 16371630

> 1.5 million people watching in the middle of the night

Anonymous No. 16371633

>>16371629
>jared stop! we have to go back. I forgot the book from my wedding that I promised my husband I'd take with me

Anonymous No. 16371634

>>16371630
It's 3pm in India

Anonymous No. 16371636

>>16371630
>Cannot comprehend timezones elsewhere
t.american

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Anonymous No. 16371637

launch is kinda boring desu

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Anonymous No. 16371638

>>16371629
They're only bad luck on sailing ships and space is not an ocean

Anonymous No. 16371639

FTS safed.

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Anonymous No. 16371641

>>16371634
>>16371636
its dark outside the rocket, retards

Anonymous No. 16371642

>>16371637
spacewalk in 3 days is going to be the interesting thing
and pictures from 1400km, different view than usually that the ISS astronauts have

Anonymous No. 16371643

>>16371637
Good

Anonymous No. 16371645

Some more professionalism Jared I thought you were burning up in there with that yelp.

Anonymous No. 16371646

fucking nice

Anonymous No. 16371647

Good landing

Anonymous No. 16371648

>>16371645
>AAAAAAAAH SAVE ME SHANNON AAAAA
who is Shannon???

Anonymous No. 16371649

Landing looked extra soft today. Probably tweaked it a bit.
Also, should stage because of image limit.

Anonymous No. 16371650

SECO-1 and LANDED!

Anonymous No. 16371651

>>16371636

> Foreigners matter guys!

No, you don't

Anonymous No. 16371652

>>16371648
Shannon, Ireland, one of their ground connections.

Anonymous No. 16371653

>image limit reached
stage it

Anonymous No. 16371654

>>16371648
>shhh anon
what did he mean by that?

Anonymous No. 16371655

>>16371649
Last time they broke one of the legs so yeah

Anonymous No. 16371656

they were literally moving their arms around the cabin in 3-4g like they were back on earth

this shit is so obviously staged, Cape Canaveral the biggest film studio in the world

Anonymous No. 16371657

IMAGE LIMIT REACHED

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16371658

>>>/pol/481164873
>>>/pol/481164873
>>>/pol/481164873
/pol/ is watching

Anonymous No. 16371659

>>16371649
I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if we're going to get any public details about what went wrong on that starlink landing a few weeks back

Anonymous No. 16371661

>>16371658
No one gives a shit

Anonymous No. 16371662

kino view

Anonymous No. 16371663

KINO

Anonymous No. 16371664

>>16371661
>>>/pol/481164873
>>>/pol/481164873
>>>/pol/481164873
Spreading spaceflight is good anon

Anonymous No. 16371667

this is the first time i've watched a dragon launch and it really drives home how much of a pile of crap starliner was, lol.

Anonymous No. 16371668

Look at all those filthy launch delaying clouds down there. Disgusting.

Anonymous No. 16371669

Thread has staged.

Ignition:
>>16371665
>>16371665
>>16371665
>>16371665
>>16371665

Anonymous No. 16371670

>>16371664
Gatekeeping works, retard.

Anonymous No. 16371672

>>16371669
good stage sep confirmed

Anonymous No. 16371680

>>16371669
>inb4 fags complaining about staging at page 7 even though it's at image limit

Anonymous No. 16371691

>>16371680
I'll only forgive it because it coincided with ACTUAL stage separation

Anonymous No. 16371705

>>16371658
>>16371664
you realize the entire rest of the site hates you and wants you to fuck off, right?
nobody likes you, you're a containment board for a reason.

Anonymous No. 16371771

>>16371253
lol

Anonymous No. 16371915

>>16370208
based

Anonymous No. 16371933

>>16370272
this is in Bastrop Texas

Anonymous No. 16371989

>>16370353
lmaoo

Anonymous No. 16372199

>>16370917
Stop pointing at my thumb, faggot!!!!

Anonymous No. 16372202

>>16371053
I already won big

Anonymous No. 16372209

>>16371124
All East Asian female mission
t. libertarian

Anonymous No. 16372213

What streams do you guys like?

Anonymous No. 16372222

>>16371183
Door gunner
Space marine
Directed energy weapon crew
Electronic countermeasures specialist
Nuclear ordnance specialist
Drone pilot

Anonymous No. 16372230

>>16371205
phreaking, like Capn Crunch

Anonymous No. 16372246

>>16371220
You can just go on a low residue diet for two full days before a flight instead. I do it when I have to travel for periods of more than 24 hours when it would be inconvenient to shit.

I find that conventional pasta with smooth tomato sauce (no vegetable chunks such as carrot or onion), white bread, eggs and cottage cheese achieves reliable results.

As long as you limit your fluid intake to the water content of food and small amounts of water, you can also greatly reduce the frequency with which you need to piss.

Anonymous No. 16372248

>>16371279
fuck doritos, I want the machines that are making them

Anonymous No. 16372251

>>16371337
They're technically not prostitutes if it's slave labor.

Anonymous No. 16372255

>>16371398
kek

regular sleep schedulebros, we won

Anonymous No. 16372270

>>16371549
kek, based

ウィアブーは全員死あるのみ!

Anonymous No. 16372479

>>16371136
i did one for 3 and then had to set one for 5 after they delayed it

Anonymous No. 16372991

>>16371183
Whore

Anonymous No. 16373544

>>16372991
Companion