🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:32:10 UTC No. 16373880
Space Ladder - edition
previous >>16371665
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:33:28 UTC No. 16373883
>>16373879
3rd row of sheetpiling being added
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:34:44 UTC No. 16373888
this thread cannot be classified as an /sfg/ thread. Once we reach page 10 we will make a real /sfg/ thread
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:34:56 UTC No. 16373889
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:35:58 UTC No. 16373890
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:36:59 UTC No. 16373892
>>16373890
footing prepare for starhopper before move
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:38:00 UTC No. 16373893
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:39:01 UTC No. 16373894
>>16373893
tower 2 on the 30th
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:40:33 UTC No. 16373897
>>16373888
Don't start with this shit. Last thread was made under the same conditions (bump limit reached, image limit reached before hitting page 10), and nobody complained. Just let it be.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:43:00 UTC No. 16373898
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>This is more than two months later than the mid-September timeframe the FAA previously targeted for determining whether to approve a launch license for the next Starship flight. SpaceX says the Super Heavy booster and Starship upper stage for the next launch—the fifth full-scale test flight of the Starship program—have been ready to launch since the first week of August.
>On the next flight, the Super Heavy booster will follow a different trajectory than it flew on the previous Starship mission in June. This means a stainless steel ring that jettisons from the top of the booster, called the hot-staging ring, will fall in a different location in the Gulf of Mexico just offshore from the rocket's launch and landing site. This change, which SpaceX calls "marginal," prompted the FAA to approve a 60-day consultation with the National Marine Fisheries Service to reassess the impact of the hot-staging ring on marine wildlife.
>The trajectory of the Super Heavy booster returning to land back onshore in Texas, rather than off the coast in the Gulf of Mexico as it did in June, will expose a larger area to a sonic boom. This prompted the FAA to approve another 60-day consultation with the US Fish and Wildlife Service to look at the sonic boom's effect on animals.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:45:29 UTC No. 16373899
>>16373898
> "We certainly understand and appreciate the importance of beating China to the Moon," Coleman told lawmakers Tuesday. "We just had a conversation recently with NASA leadership where that was reemphasized. Our commitment, certainly, is to support this industry and our nation in getting to the Moon before China."
do you? fucking faggot
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:47:36 UTC No. 16373900
>>16373894
*tower 1
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:49:03 UTC No. 16373901
>>16373888
> I'll make a 4th /sfg/! I will!
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:50:14 UTC No. 16373903
I am an environmentalist, but a practical one. it is more efficient to go after massive polluting factories and broad policies (eg use of sustainable lumber and whatever the fuck) versus nitpicking crap like this. idk it irks me a lot
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:50:15 UTC No. 16373904
https://spacenews.com/congress-indu
>A Sept. 10 hearing by the House Science Committee’s space subcommittee on “encouraging commercial space innovation while maintaining public safety” became a forum for complaints about a set of commercial launch and reentry regulations at the FAA, known as Part 450, intended to streamline the licensing process.
>The only person defending the Part 450 regulations at the hearing was Kelvin Coleman, FAA associate administrator for commercial space transportation. He said his office has developed new tools to help license applicants and continues to develop advisory circulars, as well as holds workshops and “office hours” on regulations. A budget increase in fiscal year 2024 has allowed the office to grow to 158 people, and the FAA is seeking a further increase in 2025 to hire additional staff to help with licensing.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:51:14 UTC No. 16373905
>>16373899
Sounds good. I say we trust him.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:54:13 UTC No. 16373907
>>16373904
lmao all that noise so some bureaucrat gets another couple dozen people to boss around
I won't say they aren't needed though, dealing with SpaceX is a full time job for the FAA bit who does that leave for all the other space startups
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:55:59 UTC No. 16373908
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:57:40 UTC No. 16373911
>>16373908
Kamala bros over there really hate Elon.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:57:44 UTC No. 16373912
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:59:59 UTC No. 16373916
>>16373907
AGI needs to come as soon as possible so these bureucracies can be replaced by bots
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:03:08 UTC No. 16373917
>>16373909
People don't think about how dumb government regulation can get. Stuff that sounded good decades ago but doesn't apply now can't be removed without an act of Congress
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:05:49 UTC No. 16373918
>>16373916
you do realize that agi will replace engineers and scientists first? bureaucrats will protect themselves from replacement
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:07:47 UTC No. 16373922
>>16373918
i don't care
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:12:42 UTC No. 16373926
>>16373916
A well-worded prompt fed into a near-term model could efficiently and professionally do what they are supposed to do, no AGI needed
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:32:38 UTC No. 16373937
>>16373927
Will be able to add three more to that list in several hours one Soyuz MS-26 launches, which will make a new record of 19 people in orbit at the same time.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:33:30 UTC No. 16373938
They should do a Venus flyby as Starship matures even if it isn't human rated for launch/landing. Use a private space station as a human depot.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:43:52 UTC No. 16373942
environmentalists: noooo we need to hinder progress as much as possible
everyone else: uhh we can seed the solar system with life and save civilization from climate change
environmentalists: FUCK YOU
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:46:33 UTC No. 16373943
>>16373942
It's not about the Environment, and it hasn't been for a long time.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:53:00 UTC No. 16373946
>>16373888
You don't need to wait if you hit image limit, you'd know that if you weren't a retarded newfaggot. You will never be a janitor.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:54:33 UTC No. 16373947
>>16373927
>>16373937
we're making progress in space
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:14:13 UTC No. 16373969
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:15:14 UTC No. 16373970
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:15:16 UTC No. 16373971
>>16373969
these are the fools damning us all
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:15:24 UTC No. 16373972
>>16373912
I'm sure there's some political context about the FAA critizing some aerospace supplier in Georgia 7 years ago, but McCormick sounds pretty based here
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:26:44 UTC No. 16373981
westerners: we need to slow our technological progress down for browns and to spite elon
china: >>16373978
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:29:46 UTC No. 16373986
>>16373981
It's ok, Trump will fix this when he gets in..
Oh wait
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:42:10 UTC No. 16373995
>>16373981
Isn't it really a non issue that will resolve itself by year-end? We are not on the clock anymore, until China actually blows past us, we can just keep delaying everything.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:43:29 UTC No. 16373997
>>16373995
Complacency kills, especially complacency like this.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:44:34 UTC No. 16374000
>>16373978
Can someone explain why SSRP is so hard? Just fire your engines while falling??
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:46:45 UTC No. 16374003
>>16374000
Firing the engine again isn't hard. Timing it right with the thrust at the right levels to make a zero-altitude, zero-velocity landing while still having some wiggle room to adjust the throttle up or down is the hard part.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:48:32 UTC No. 16374006
>>16374000
The secret to SpaceX's VTVL is the 9 Merlins having a variable thrust ratio of 40% while only having a thrust of 36-85t, which combined with the mass of the F9 first stage @ 22-25t, can easily achieve a vertical landing.
Other companies (globally) are unable to do this due to a lack of engines with appropriate thrust, Europe and the US are really lacking in the RP-1/LOX department until recently.
Most engines have a thrust of >100t, with a 50% throttle of >50t (China's YF-100 for example), which makes vertical landings impossible.
TLDR it just takes a lot of time to develop appropriate hardware even if you have the expertise
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:48:51 UTC No. 16374007
>>16373908
>>16373911
If the average twitter post is retarded, ars' comment section is beyond delusion. Between 2016 and 2020 you'd regularly see massively upboated comments calling for the death of their running president but don't you dare point it out.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:57:21 UTC No. 16374010
>>16373995
>Isn't it really a non issue that will resolve itself by year-end?
no because every launch will require a loicense too and each of them gives the death cult an opportunity to delay starship further
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:15:35 UTC No. 16374022
>>16373044
Reminds me of the air force deliberately sabotaging von brauns redstone rocket so the all american vanguard would get to orbit first. If they hadn't america would've put the first satellite in orbit instead of the soviets.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:15:53 UTC No. 16374023
>>16374022
GEGA PU PUUUU
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:19:05 UTC No. 16374025
>>16374006
There's a reason one of the first Chinese concept for a RLV (CZ-6X from 6 years ago or so) just didn't bother with that and had two small upper stage engines added on the engine bay kek, thanksfully was abandonned.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:19:25 UTC No. 16374026
>>16373898
>you need a TCEQ permit
>no you need an EPA permit
>nevermind you needed a TCEQ permit
>yes we told you it was okay and we even had TCEQ people on site when you used it but that'll be $3500 for not having your paperwork complete
It's even worse than I realized. Also the original environmental assessment included an "incidental takings" clause in the event stuff falling in the ocean harms marine life so this 60 day delay just seems like politics as usual.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:21:54 UTC No. 16374031
>>16374026
its kafkaesque like Musk said, not even the bureucrats know the rules
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:31:24 UTC No. 16374046
>>16374035
They're not doing the spacewalk up high? Then what was the point of going into such a high orbit to begin with, just to say "we did it!"?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:32:16 UTC No. 16374047
>>16374040
>>16374045
Should I stop posting screenshots? Yes or no
this is for other /sfg/ participants too, one no here
I know this was discussed like 6 months ago (probably the same person whining again), but perhaps the general opinion has changed
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:34:22 UTC No. 16374049
>>16374047
Spamming screenshots to quickly reach image limit is egregious shitposting, and you should not do that. If you've got news to share then post a link, if that link is some faggot bitching on twitter then shove it up your ass.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:35:52 UTC No. 16374050
>>16374022
That was strategic and von Braun was too autistic to understand. They needed the Soviets to set the precedent.
>air force secretly sent people to check inside the rocket during fueling to make sure Braun hadn't secretly replaced the dummy payload with a satellite
Tells you a lot about the man
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:36:07 UTC No. 16374051
>>16374047
only post noteworthy ones (like that gorgeous shot of the draco burn), we don't need to know every little detail
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:36:51 UTC No. 16374052
>>16374049
that is not why I was posting the screenshots, I post them because it sometimes sparks discussion
but yes, your opinion is noted
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:36:53 UTC No. 16374053
>>16374049
>>16374051
What is wrong with you fags are you new?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:37:49 UTC No. 16374055
>>16374050
Eh, the early rocketry pioneers all had serious space aspirations. Korelev was allowed to work on the R-7 (and N1 later) because he convinced the Soviet leadership it was a giant ICBM when in fact he just wanted to realize his space dream
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:37:54 UTC No. 16374056
>>16374052
No don't note it, I appreciate you for visiting twitter or wherever so I don't have to. That's why I'm here instead of there to begin with
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:38:48 UTC No. 16374057
>>16374050
>They needed the Soviets to set the precedent.
They didn't know the soviets were ahead of them, this is cope for a stupid decision based solely on pride.
>air force secretly sent people to check inside the rocket during fueling to make sure Braun hadn't secretly replaced the dummy payload with a satellite
Not only that, they made sure the upper stage was fueled with sand.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:38:51 UTC No. 16374058
>>16374047
As long as they aren't off-topic shitpost fuel I think they're helpful and encourage discussion.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:42:27 UTC No. 16374060
>>16374055
Honestly you must have been seriously narrow minded and unfun to work on ballistic missiles in the 50s without considering its spaceflight applications
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:44:48 UTC No. 16374061
>>16374058
That's what I meant by "faggots bitching on twitter", I don't have any interest in seeing 20+ screencaps of ESGhound or CSS talking nonsense and hate seeing that shit spammed for (you)s, it's tiresome and gay.
But I agree with you too, I do not go to twitter and have no plans to, so this is the only place I see posts from there.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:44:48 UTC No. 16374062
>>16374057
Eh, there were some decent intel circa 55-56 on the American side that the Soviet could get an ICBM capable of launching a satellite by late 1957 or 1958, they probably didn’t expect atlas, vanguard and all that to take that long tho.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:48:40 UTC No. 16374066
>>16374055
No my point was that the air force genuinely thought there was enough of a possibility he snuck in a satellite that they risked a life to check in secret. Positively muskian
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:49:46 UTC No. 16374067
>>16374046
Radiation? Micrometeoroid? More direct route for emergency return? Who knows.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:50:36 UTC No. 16374068
>>16374046
>just to say "we did it!"
where do you think you are
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:51:59 UTC No. 16374069
radiation and starlink testing at 1400 km is quite interesting though but essentially its a more advanced Gemini
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:52:22 UTC No. 16374070
i am increasingly rooting for china. they have their own space station. they can build entire modern cities in a few years that look better than everything in the west. they are building out energy faster than europe and america combined
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:52:39 UTC No. 16374071
>>16374046
>They're not doing the spacewalk up high?
they are doing it at 700km
>Then what was the point of going into such a high orbit to begin with, just to say "we did it!"?
yes. but also some radiation experiments on the human body and probably also to test the capabilities of dragon itself
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:53:06 UTC No. 16374072
https://shop.spacex.com/collections
Would you fags buy this? It looks huge, but doesn't seem so detailed, but I guess the actual suit is similarly stylistically bland
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:53:29 UTC No. 16374073
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:53:40 UTC No. 16374074
>>16374069
yes that is what it is exactly, SpaceX replicating Gemini
its a stepping stone to a wholly private human spaceflight programme
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:56:48 UTC No. 16374077
>>16374069
>>16374074
During the mission, they pronounced "Gemini" and "Gemm-en-ee"
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:57:45 UTC No. 16374078
It's getting extremely ripe up there. Sarah Gillis didn't shower for 3 days before the launch.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:59:36 UTC No. 16374079
>>16374070
what's crazy is DoD (2023 china report) says cnsa budget is less than ESA's, granted they use a lot of the military budget on space but still...
they're still behind on the really niche aerospace technologies but 2025+ is going to be interesting
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:00:45 UTC No. 16374080
>>16374078
This was Elon's express order.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:05:34 UTC No. 16374081
>>16374047
Do as you want
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:19:27 UTC No. 16374091
>>16374070
>they have their own space station
So did Russia and USA.
>they can build entire modern cities in a few years that look better than everything in the west.
Ah yes the marvels of modern Chinese civil engineering. Functioning storm drains are optional.
>they are building out energy faster than europe and america combined
What does this even mean?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:22:38 UTC No. 16374094
>>16374047
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVQe8Gn3
as I'm not the only one posting these things, maybe this could work as a guideline (i.e. no ragebait if people find it uninteresting and spammy)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:22:53 UTC No. 16374095
>>16374090
>Pentagon likes Jeff.
>NASA likes Jeff.
>Everyone likes Jeff.
Jeff? That guy who sued NASA and has never launched a military satellite?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:24:12 UTC No. 16374099
>>16374091
>What does this even mean?
This should be pretty self explanatory but here, I'll spoon feed you.
China is currently building as much nuclear power as the rest of the world combined.
And yes, this holds for pretty much their entire energy sector.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:24:40 UTC No. 16374100
>>16374077
Blame all the NASA facilities getting set up in the south for that.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:27:17 UTC No. 16374101
>>16374099
Lmao we could never build a fission reactor in the US with current regs, half the cost would be paying navel gazer bureaucrats alone
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:27:59 UTC No. 16374103
>>16374090
Remember how it wasn't that easy in rocketry.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:30:46 UTC No. 16374106
>>16374099
>nuclear power
So mention that in the post instead of "building energy" which sounds ESL and could mean nearly anything in addition to being completely unrelated to spaceflight.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:31:03 UTC No. 16374107
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:32:19 UTC No. 16374108
>>16374107
lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:32:21 UTC No. 16374109
>>16374090
Nobody likes Jeff
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:34:42 UTC No. 16374112
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:35:30 UTC No. 16374114
>>16374047
No keep doing it, you're doing a great service as I don't have the energy to comb through every fart nowadays
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:36:55 UTC No. 16374116
>>16374094
Any but 'ragebait' and rando 'spitters', those kinds of posts are abject garbage.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:38:06 UTC No. 16374120
>>16374047
Wait what's wrong with posting screenshots?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:40:20 UTC No. 16374122
>>16374120
Uncomfortably political.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:41:01 UTC No. 16374125
Am I the only one that was expecting more pictures, video, or anything from the crew of polaris dawn while they're in space? They haven't even released one picture unless I missed it.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:42:45 UTC No. 16374131
>>16374125
I thought we would as well. Maybe for the space walk, otherwise this might really be Polaris Yawn.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:43:51 UTC No. 16374132
>>16374120
Nothing at all.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:44:39 UTC No. 16374133
>>16374125
they released like two
a clip when they reached apogee and then a clip during orbit raising
>>16373757
>>16373751
>>16373574
>>16373546
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:47:26 UTC No. 16374138
>>16374102
>1kg
brirriant pebbles
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:48:14 UTC No. 16374140
>>16374131
Yeah maybe they're getting ready for the spacewalk, I know they're already doing that pre breathing thing.
>>16374133
That was all external though right? We've not seen anything from the actual crew.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:48:28 UTC No. 16374141
>>16373888
kys, image limit reached on image board
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:51:11 UTC No. 16374142
>>16374140
yeah, I guess they want to keep it private during the experiments
maybe they will after the spacewalk and re-pressurization
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:53:25 UTC No. 16374144
>>16374102
>1kg for less than $1000
Read, nigga.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:57:28 UTC No. 16374153
>>16374100
>>16374077
I live in the south and have never ever heard anyone pronounce Gemini like that except in regards to the Gemini program (although that might be because I'm also in Appalachia and we talk a little different). They obviously mandated it because the media was pronouncing it like that too.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:00:03 UTC No. 16374156
>>16374153
They also used a weird name for the moon, like "Selune" or something. "Approaching periselune", they would say
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:06:04 UTC No. 16374166
>>16373888
Read >>16374159
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:09:06 UTC No. 16374171
>>16374091
>What does this even mean?
energy is the currency of physics. in the coming ai age energy will decide the winner
>marvels of modern Chinese civil engineering
funny whenever people shit on china they always post some backwater shit. they never post something from the modernized parts like the high speed trains that are better than everything in the western world. thats like defining the usa with a picture of homeless drug zombies. every country has big problems, what matters is the trend. and the current trend is that spacex arent allowed to launch starship for no reason while china is working on dozens of huge projects at a rapid pace
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:10:23 UTC No. 16374174
>>16374156
>When farthest from the Moon (at apoapsis) a spacecraft is said to be at apolune, apocynthion, or aposelene
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:11:54 UTC No. 16374177
>>16373978
Onboard view
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:12:34 UTC No. 16374178
>>16374047
I remember this discussion, newsfags post screenshots if they feel its appropriate it helps to garner attention for whatever youre posting which is important in this pretty fast general if you want something discussed. Dont listen to that retard, newsfags are cool and give the general cool things to discuss, we dont find allot of the smaller missions or companies or satellites otherwise. I will vote in that poll but continue posting screenshots anyways that retard will probably do something autistic and spam votes for no on new IPs.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:12:49 UTC No. 16374179
>>16374177
kino
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:14:36 UTC No. 16374181
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:15:30 UTC No. 16374183
>>16374177
cool
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:16:42 UTC No. 16374185
>>16374177
rockets are cool
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:16:49 UTC No. 16374186
>>16374177
am i stupid or does this look inefficient? couldnt they have done the landing with less fuel by thrusting later and stronger?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:17:45 UTC No. 16374188
>>16374177
What are those bits falling off at the start, is it like the temporary insulation tiles that some Chinese and French rockets use up til launch?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:19:02 UTC No. 16374190
>>16374186
It probably just is inefficient, it is a demonstration after all.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:19:18 UTC No. 16374192
>>16374177
China will grow larger
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:19:24 UTC No. 16374193
>>16374090
50/50
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:21:40 UTC No. 16374198
>>16374188
It's probably just ice.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:22:19 UTC No. 16374199
>>16374177
operational F9 clone when?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:22:22 UTC No. 16374200
>>16374177
Now just wait a second here one god damn minute
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:23:23 UTC No. 16374202
>>16374200
Where did the fucking landing pad go?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:25:23 UTC No. 16374204
>>16374202
It's flat anon.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:25:34 UTC No. 16374205
>>16374202
Probably buried in the ground
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:31:36 UTC No. 16374210
>>16374200
>>16374202
stop noooticing
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:33:17 UTC No. 16374212
>>16374202
you can very clealry see it in the non-compressed video...
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:41:54 UTC No. 16374220
>>16374171
That anon should have focused on the interesting things the Chinese space program is doing instead of another 'china good west bad' post. There clearly has been some thought put into their missions to fill gaps in scientific capabiity from missions that NASA/ESA/JAXA have already done.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:46:53 UTC No. 16374226
>>16374199
Two weeks
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:59:03 UTC No. 16374239
>>16374186
They had lots of margins for this demonstration, just based on their tank size and announce residuals they probably had enough fuel for a whole ass karman line hop.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:07:28 UTC No. 16374252
Just killed that 30 post /sfg/ thread.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:08:27 UTC No. 16374255
>>16374252
noooo
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:15:11 UTC No. 16374259
https://x.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/
>>>/wsg/5676867
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:17:13 UTC No. 16374263
>>16373916
Thomas Edison's first invention was a vote tabulator he designed for Congress so their votes, which aren't secret, could quickly be added up and published. He thought this would make Congress operate more efficiently and be better for keeping the public informed. Congress rejected the invention because they didn't want votes to be counted efficiently nor for the public to have an easy view into their activities. It would be a century later, after many state legislatures converted to electronic voting from the desk of each legislator, that Congress finally relented and started using electronic means to rapidly count votes.
Government often does things in an inefficient and obfuscated manner because the inefficiency and obfuscation are tools for purposes desired by those in charge rather than due to inability to be efficient and open.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:25:18 UTC No. 16374271
>>16374259
Kill yourself thread splitting hawaiian furnigger I remember the shitstain you made of IFT-2
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:27:07 UTC No. 16374274
>>16374259
Neat
>>16374271
????
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:28:53 UTC No. 16374276
>>16374259
first video from inside the dragon during this mission?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:30:22 UTC No. 16374279
>>16374276
>>16374259
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
oh that was from inspiration4, synced up to the orbit raising vid for this mission
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:30:31 UTC No. 16374280
>>16373880
Anybody know when the space walk is supposed to occur tomorrow? I looked at a dozen "news" sites to no avail and google is unhelpful.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:33:07 UTC No. 16374283
>>16374280
https://nextspaceflight.com/events/
1 in the fuckin' morning
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:33:24 UTC No. 16374284
>>16374280
Thursday September 12 at 2:23 AM ET
>>16373665
>>16373866
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:34:58 UTC No. 16374289
>>16374284
>>16374280
so 16h 9min
and 15h 9min until the livestream starts
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:35:04 UTC No. 16374290
>>16374280
imagine being trapped on that tin with 3 people for this long. Orion's much bigger and i think i'd still go crazy in that
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:35:17 UTC No. 16374291
>>16374284
>Hi my name is jared, my friends call me “rookie” and I schedule shit at the worst time known to man
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:37:02 UTC No. 16374294
>>16374283
>>16374284
Thanks! See you tonight lads. Hopefully we get good pics and nobody dies.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:37:07 UTC No. 16374295
>>16374291
>Hi my name is elon, my friends call me “e” and I schedule shit at the worst time known to man
Ftfy
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:46:21 UTC No. 16374303
>>16374283
Oh well. It’s better than the launch time and more worth watching so I’ll stay up for it.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:46:24 UTC No. 16374304
Are we sure the FAA are even humans? I think it's more likely they're interdimensional demons who fear us spreading out to the stars and escaping this hellworld
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:49:56 UTC No. 16374305
>>16374304
>Are we sure the FAA are even humans?
Who ever suggested that they were?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:54:22 UTC No. 16374308
>>16374304
It's government bureaucracy, a machine designed for the sole purpose of creating work for itself to do.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:56:58 UTC No. 16374312
>>16374310
They would finally just kill him. Elon is so fucking autistic.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:58:46 UTC No. 16374313
>>16374310
Not very. The administrative state is has been growing deep roots for a very long time. Elon would serve in that post for four years at the most. Career bureaucrats is incredibly good at tossing up road blocks and creating delays. He might get rid of some surface waste, but four years isn't enough time to get his hands on any of the roots.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:00:09 UTC No. 16374315
>>16374290
Wonder if snoring is an automatic DQ for astronauts.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:00:34 UTC No. 16374316
>>16374310
You are retarded and should go back to grifing crypto on xitter
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:04:20 UTC No. 16374319
does todays date have any connection to spaceflight?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:04:46 UTC No. 16374321
>>16374315
Probably. Even ignoring the annoyance, isn’t snoring indicative of breathing problems while asleep? Not something you want your astronauts to have, unless youre specifically studying the effects of weightlessness on it.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:07:30 UTC No. 16374326
>>16374077
I pronounce it guh-mee-knee
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:09:04 UTC No. 16374330
>>16374090
What's the point of a super heavy suborbital rocket?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:10:41 UTC No. 16374331
>>16374090
Jeff who?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:11:15 UTC No. 16374332
>>16374330
there is none, simple.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:13:48 UTC No. 16374335
I keep running into people (internet people) who think SpaceX is getting these massive government subsidies all the time. Then they'll link a thing and it's actually a contract for delivering a thing or building something, in other words somebody is paying them to deliver a product. They just seem to have hard time wrapping their head around that it's not suddenly just free money if it's a government agency making the order
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:15:28 UTC No. 16374337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mav
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:15:41 UTC No. 16374338
>>16374120
If we hit the image limit on irrelevant screenshots of leftist retards on twitter we can't post pictures (or PDFs) related to SPEHS
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:16:44 UTC No. 16374341
>>16374337
God bless puccia
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:16:51 UTC No. 16374342
>>16374279
Why?
>>16374283
Fuck me, this is why nobody cares about space. They should be posting loads of videos and pictures, and doing things at reasonable times.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:18:06 UTC No. 16374344
>>16374280
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1833387
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:19:00 UTC No. 16374346
>>16374341
Pockcockmock
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:22:07 UTC No. 16374350
>>16374338
Just start a new thread? You're just making up problems that don't actually exist.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:23:22 UTC No. 16374353
>>16374335
That comes from arianegroup begging the ESA for money trying to claim the americans are unfairly subsidizing spacex lol.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:25:11 UTC No. 16374355
>>16374171
>they never post something from the modernized parts like the high speed trains that are better than everything in the western world
The maglev is nothing special (the one in Shanghai is too short to really save much time on the way to the airport).
The high speed trains are nice, but the experience is similar to a slow airplane with more room and less time boarding and deboarding. The seats are the similar, with a little more room to recline and more leg room in front. The free WiFi is nice, I guess, but if you already have 5G there's no reason to use it.
In practice I take it when my destination doesn't have a commercial airport, of which there are far fewer in China. So it ends up being a much slower replacement for a plane ride. Overall it's fine unless you have an annoying asshole sitting next to you.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:28:10 UTC No. 16374359
>>16374357
Did they get EPA approval?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:28:41 UTC No. 16374360
>>16374355
a lot of these projects were started due to China's need to have growth numbers in the double digits but it bleeds money and have low utilization rates - which is why ppl supporting HSR in the US is nuts.
But their plan was to make Western China more useful (most chinese live along the eastern coast and central China) but not much has changed there.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:29:10 UTC No. 16374361
>>16374354
imagine sitting here for 5h and getting scrubbed day after day
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:29:41 UTC No. 16374362
>>16374263
winner
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:30:10 UTC No. 16374363
>>16374359
for what?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:31:40 UTC No. 16374368
>>16374355
>The high speed trains are nice, but the experience is similar to a slow airplane with more room and less time boarding and deboarding.
You’re underselling how valuable thar fast on and off is. A lot of short flights get their length doubled just by how much of a pain it is to get through airports and get the plane on and off the ground. This would be significantly worse for point to point rocket transport, one of the reasons it will never be a thing.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:31:42 UTC No. 16374369
>>16374290
Just call to your cat for help.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:32:54 UTC No. 16374372
>>16374295
In an alternate universe Elon is called Lonny and everyone just thinks that's normal.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:34:50 UTC No. 16374374
>>16374310
>"What is it exactly that you DO here?"
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:37:18 UTC No. 16374375
>>16374363
For getting their wastewater all mixed up with the ocean that's currently flooding over Starbase
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:38:46 UTC No. 16374377
>>16374350
It was a real and constant problem before the image limit got raised. If people autismally screenshot every post on X it could become a problem again.
Could it be there's a reason you don't remember that?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:38:48 UTC No. 16374378
>>16374341
why is this rocket so dirty? its because it is reused, right? no expendable rocket is that dirty, right?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:41:46 UTC No. 16374379
>>16374368
Let's be perfectly frank. They do it because they can't build enough planes and the population isn't rich enough to fly often enough to justify the cost if they could.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:42:05 UTC No. 16374381
>>16373880
THEY DIDNT JUST MURDER A DOG IN SPACE THEY ALSO KILLED POOR GECKOS!
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:42:31 UTC No. 16374383
>>16374378
i think its just a light coating of that insulation foam (or powder?) they use
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:43:05 UTC No. 16374384
>>16374381
when human mating experiment?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:45:09 UTC No. 16374386
>>16374381
imagine performing an autopsy on week old space gecko corpses to determine the cause and time of death
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:45:24 UTC No. 16374387
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
>Nearly a decade ago to the day, I stood in the international terminal of Houston's main airport checking my phone. As I wanted to board a flight for Moscow, an announcement from NASA was imminent on commercial crew. Ten years later, some thoughts on where we are:
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:47:37 UTC No. 16374388
>>16374384
Contact Sunni and Butch, it's not like they have anything better to do 'til February. If nothing else it'd be a good stress reliever.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:54:39 UTC No. 16374391
>>16374313
>this agency isn't fit for purpose. Get rid of it and offload a few of its responsibility to a related bureau. Devolve the rest of its former powers back to the states
>next agency, please
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:56:36 UTC No. 16374394
>>16374381
What about this kot
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:58:07 UTC No. 16374399
>>16374394
Do not send cats to the outer space.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:59:39 UTC No. 16374401
>>16374388
they arent allowed to do that
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:00:22 UTC No. 16374403
https://youtu.be/Pb3Qdncwh8k?si=0Xo
https://youtu.be/JTga5hvLjGs?si=mBc
These are super funny in retrospect. Recommend watching the commercial crew video in full, the funny part about the astronaut awards is literally all of them flew SpaceX already but they announced the Boeing guys first
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:01:17 UTC No. 16374405
>>16374401
her hair is fucking disgusting
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:05:21 UTC No. 16374407
>>16374394
>>16374399
>fr*nchcels killed this cat after SURVIVING space 2 months later for a fucking autopsy
When interplanetary wars begin to happen, target these barbaric franks first
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:07:55 UTC No. 16374411
>>16374407
Nobody ever says Italy.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:08:34 UTC No. 16374412
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/183
>He adds that environmental reviews are the pacing item for Starship flight 5 license modification; safety review also not complete but it will be done before environmental.
They know theyre in the wrong and trying to find any angle possible to defend their obviously politically biased actions.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:09:54 UTC No. 16374414
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:11:37 UTC No. 16374416
what is the reason FAA found it necessary to involve the FWS at all? they need to have some plausible reason for this
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:11:55 UTC No. 16374417
>>16374414
The 'changing information' was ESG Hound who accuses SpaceX of everything he can while providing no proof other than his nameless sources (read trust me bro)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:14:15 UTC No. 16374420
How much would it cost for Musk to buy Ted Cruz and Governor Abbot to just override the FAA and say "send it" anyways
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:14:19 UTC No. 16374421
>>16374401
What's NASA gonna do, send them to their rooms? Come up here and stop us from fucking, faggot.
>>16374411
Italy hasn't mattered since the fall of the Western Empire.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:15:44 UTC No. 16374425
>>16374414
>they get majority of our resources and 80% of overtime.
No shit, they launch 80% of the rockets. What a lazy non excuse.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:18:03 UTC No. 16374428
>>16374425
I think its over 80%, might be closer to 95% of the stuff that FAA processes
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:19:55 UTC No. 16374431
>>16373916
I do not wish to be replaced by lines of code
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:21:16 UTC No. 16374432
>>16374094
Who wants to see Elons off topic rambling here? Whole ass site devoted to them called x try it out.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:21:21 UTC No. 16374433
>>16374431
its going to happen
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:22:44 UTC No. 16374434
>>16374431
If you can, you should be.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:22:56 UTC No. 16374435
>>16374391
>blocked by a court
>Congress blocks Elon's actions
He's not going to be Emperor of the federal bureaucracy, he's going to be a tiny part of it. Even with Trump's backing, he won't be able to do what you're fantasizing about. At best, he will be able to write lots of reports to call public attention to waste in various agencies and hope the government that created that waste will eliminate it.
All of this has been done before. Ron Paul used to release annual reports that were mostly ignored by everyone regarding the worst examples of government waste. Nothing changed. Now his son Rand Paul does that same thing every year to the same indifferent reaction.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:23:39 UTC No. 16374437
soyuz launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c59
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:23:41 UTC No. 16374438
>>16373946
Ufortunately, we've become infested with twitter screen shot posters, so the image limit will be hit more and more often.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:23:46 UTC No. 16374439
>>16374432
the most substantial refers to the most substantial space comments, I edited it and left out a few words and now it seems to imply substantial commentary about anything
it was just supposed to be "most important space stuff" vs "all space stuff", the latter being stuff where he just says something already known or its some space related shitpost etc
off topic rambling is not one of the choices at all, or is not supposed to be
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:24:11 UTC No. 16374441
>>16374006
I once read somewhere that the biggest breakthrough was the software, that the necessary computation was only proved to be solvable on current hardware in the last two decades, and whoever wrote that paper was on SpaceX's payroll.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:25:33 UTC No. 16374443
>>16374434
okay but what if you get replaced
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:26:10 UTC No. 16374446
something just crossed my mind, the Soviets were making like 100 R-7s a year back in the day - they can thereotically put up their own starlink
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:26:28 UTC No. 16374447
>>16374446
Not in their current economy
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:27:05 UTC No. 16374449
>>16374443
Unlike you I won't be.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:27:29 UTC No. 16374452
>>16374441
We've talked about this previously on /sfg/. NASA was doing autonomous propulsive landings on the moon in the 1970 with can't remember which lander. Essentially computers from 40 years ago are good enough for propulsive landing.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:28:10 UTC No. 16374453
>>16374435
Yeah no need to point out voting won't fix shit. Still twenty years from Mars separatism maybe even longer on this planet of bucket crabs.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:28:30 UTC No. 16374454
>>16374449
what's your job
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:28:30 UTC No. 16374455
>>16374452
>40 years ago
Do you know how to count retard?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:29:00 UTC No. 16374456
>>16374431
Are you nothing more than your profession?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:30:36 UTC No. 16374458
>>16374447
You might be correct but if the last couple of years have demonstrated anything, it's that the west doesn't know dick about the realities of Russia's economy. Which is amusing and ironic since during the Cold War, the west constantly made errors in the other direction, over estimating the strength of the USSR's economy.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:31:07 UTC No. 16374459
>>16374454
I'm studying paleontology at MUN currently.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:31:22 UTC No. 16374461
>>16374280
>I looked at a dozen "news" sites to no avail and google is unhelpful.
SpaceX has their own fucking website. Did you look there, brain donor?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:31:25 UTC No. 16374463
>>16374441
i don't actually think the software is that sophisticated, the breakthrough was absolutely the propulsion, those engines are not necessarily difficult, they're just different to what most manufacturers are doing (Energomash, Aerojet, CASC etc)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:33:54 UTC No. 16374469
>>16374461
SpaceX is unironically not a reliable information source on SpaceX
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:34:48 UTC No. 16374471
>>16374431
I kind of do want machines to take over labor. The whole point of a tool is to make things easier, right?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:35:26 UTC No. 16374473
>>16374463
Guess Lars Blackmoore(guy that implemented NASA's propulsive landing algorithm in SpaceX rockets) talked some sense into Elon and got him to go with linux
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:35:33 UTC No. 16374474
There are currently 19 people in orbit, surpassing the previous record of 17 set in May of last year.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:35:35 UTC No. 16374475
>>16374463
> Reinventing ERP software
Seems like a waste of everyone's time. Just use a commercial package.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:35:55 UTC No. 16374476
>>16374452
>can't remember which lander.
Mariner?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:35:56 UTC No. 16374477
>>16374468
You expect quality out of russians?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:36:37 UTC No. 16374479
Arianespace CEO kvetching about SpaceX sending billionaires to space on French TV
(no, can't post the screenshot sorry, we need that space for frogs)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:36:57 UTC No. 16374480
>>16374463
An interesting dechud comment? That's uncommon
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:37:06 UTC No. 16374481
>>16374438
Better 1000 twitter screen shots than one of your whiny lil bitch posts.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:37:53 UTC No. 16374483
>>16374463
but i will just say SpaceX has done wonders with their welding techniques and how they work with alloys which improves TWR and mass fraction a lot. If you look at the Zenit, very close performance numbers with F9 but vastly underperforms.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:38:32 UTC No. 16374484
>>16374438
Hey newfag image limit staging happens with every large event like Dawn or IFTs. Maybe shut the fuck up if youve only been here a week at max.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:38:33 UTC No. 16374485
>>16374361
They be edging the astronauts fr fr ong.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:39:10 UTC No. 16374486
>>16374481
t. twit
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:40:17 UTC No. 16374488
>>16374485
Cap
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:40:37 UTC No. 16374489
>>16374484
nta but way to out yourself as a newfag. We used to not stage even if we hit image limit. Even before the mods raised the image limit just for /sfg/. Something you don't remember because you weren't here
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:42:40 UTC No. 16374491
>>16374479
Post a link then.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:44:03 UTC No. 16374494
>>16374491
its twitter, can't do that
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:45:52 UTC No. 16374496
>>16374405
No gravity will do that to you, don't be a jerk.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:46:03 UTC No. 16374497
>>16374495
Thank you wise frog poster
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:46:46 UTC No. 16374498
>>16374497
this includes stuff like Starship and Polaris Dawn streams
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:47:14 UTC No. 16374501
>>16374495
Feel free to report those posts for making you cry like a hurt girl.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:49:11 UTC No. 16374504
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:50:37 UTC No. 16374508
>>16374494
No I mean post a link to a screenshot on imgur or catbox.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:52:13 UTC No. 16374510
>>16374508
that would just be twitter with more steps
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:56:43 UTC No. 16374514
>>16374479
Could you photoshop the screenshot onto an image of a frog to make it on topic?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:58:22 UTC No. 16374518
Why are frogposters always the worst we have. Yesterday it was that delay is good fag and today its ban all spaceflight news coverage by banning xitter posts
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:58:26 UTC No. 16374519
>>16374514
hmm
that sounds like skirting the rules a bit
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:58:40 UTC No. 16374520
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:59:20 UTC No. 16374521
>>16374383
Leave and never fucking come back.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:01:51 UTC No. 16374526
>>16374383
>being this new
You could just ask what it is again. Or google white stuff on rocket
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:10:05 UTC No. 16374534
Still cant believe a /pol/ack unironically said gatekeeping bad in here earlier.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:10:48 UTC No. 16374535
>>16374432
But I don't want to make a Twitter account nor do I want to use it.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:11:44 UTC No. 16374537
>>16374535
Nitter exists
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:12:34 UTC No. 16374538
>>16374535
xcancel
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:14:53 UTC No. 16374540
>>16374526
>Or google white stuff on rocket
Just make sure you have safe-search turned on.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:15:40 UTC No. 16374541
Starlink direct-to-cell has demonstrated emergency alerts on all LTE capable phones
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:19:08 UTC No. 16374544
>>16374541
starlink is truly a miracle technology. Soon getting lost or stranded will be nearly impossible.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:22:01 UTC No. 16374548
>>16374544
unfortunately they don't have the license to operate it right now as far as I know
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:24:37 UTC No. 16374553
>>16374414
>they get the majority of our resources and 80% of overtime
And yet they can still make rockets faster than you can do paperwork? That's a pile of steaming bullshit taller than Starship.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:27:38 UTC No. 16374554
>>16374537
It's really annoying to have to copy and paste every Twitter link into a nitter link every time it's posted
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:28:43 UTC No. 16374558
>>16374554
Then make a xitter account. Decide between convenience and principle, we are not going to change how we post links for the 1% that dont do it the same way.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:29:37 UTC No. 16374560
>>16374554
Libredirect
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:30:00 UTC No. 16374561
>>16374554
Boo hoo nigga make an X account. Use a burner email of you care so much.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:30:35 UTC No. 16374562
>>16374558
should not post any links at all to that chud site
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:32:49 UTC No. 16374565
>>16374562
Terrible bait but have a (You) anyways
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:32:59 UTC No. 16374566
At some point Elon's behavior is going to be an impediment to Mars. He just offered to impregnate Taylor Swift. Is he losing it on drugs or is this his usual autistic misunderstanding of humor? Yes I'm mad, I want to go to Mars
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:34:30 UTC No. 16374568
>>16374565
Elon Musk is a nazi
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:34:54 UTC No. 16374569
>>16374568
You're a nazi
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:35:28 UTC No. 16374570
I’m a nazi
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:40:19 UTC No. 16374574
>>16374566
This is not bait by the way, I'm genuinely upset. What the fuck is he doing.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:40:24 UTC No. 16374575
>>16374566
you can't go to mars without an X account
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:41:25 UTC No. 16374576
>>16374571
noo the imagelimit
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:41:32 UTC No. 16374577
>>16373683
Trying to power a hot-air balloon with decay heat seems like an odd choice. Surely a fission reactor would become lighter at much less than 30km scale.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:44:22 UTC No. 16374578
>>16374577
How much heavier is a fission reactor going to be than just bringing some radioactive shit?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:45:34 UTC No. 16374581
Limp made a post about the thermal protection system on New Glenn called Comet
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:46:01 UTC No. 16374582
>>16374576
>No you cant images because... YOU JUST CANT OKAY!?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:46:36 UTC No. 16374583
>>16374582
noo
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:47:54 UTC No. 16374584
>>16374581
link? screenshot? greentext?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:48:24 UTC No. 16374585
>>16373903
It is not about environmentalism, it is about politics. Elon has been naughty and is being punished.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:49:55 UTC No. 16374586
>>16374584
We have to conform to what that one anon wants. This is how posting in /sfg/ in an imageless, and linkless general.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:49:58 UTC No. 16374587
>>16374584
they add it only to certain parts due to weight optimization, the strakes are also designed to withstand 2 inches of "growth" due to changing temperatures during flight
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:52:50 UTC No. 16374592
Limp also posted an image of the first stage, seems like they have integrated some more sections into it compared to the Everyday Astronaut tour video part 2, looks like a strake, the engine section and interstage have been integrated
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:54:50 UTC No. 16374594
this dude drops a good point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoL
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:57:59 UTC No. 16374596
>>16374007
Ars used to be good, then it morphed into Arse
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 17:59:42 UTC No. 16374598
Musk is a brainlet lets face it
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:00:30 UTC No. 16374599
>>16374594
>we can't colonize mars because it will be hard and dangerous
Fuck off.
If these people were in charge we'd still be living in caves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIU
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:00:57 UTC No. 16374600
>>16374594
Can't watch the video but laughing at the IQ of the people in the comments.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:01:53 UTC No. 16374601
Your bait is terrible lets face it
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:04:16 UTC No. 16374602
>>16374601
Your mothers cunt is terrible lets face it
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:04:23 UTC No. 16374603
>Ariane 6
>European officials defend the program, saying it provides crucial independent space access for its member states
Why do euros pretend like the US would ever deny them launch services? I'm not trying to argue against the EU having their own launch systems but this seems silly.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:05:20 UTC No. 16374604
>>16374600
Space literacy is so fucking bad
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:06:22 UTC No. 16374605
>>16374603
its a jobs program for the french
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:06:39 UTC No. 16374606
>>16374600
>unironic cloudcity fags that are only arguing against mars because musk wants to go to mars
Delusional.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:07:16 UTC No. 16374607
>>16374603
The israelis thought the same before america denied them launch services.
If america would deny their greatest ally launch services then europe should be worried.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:08:01 UTC No. 16374608
>>16374600
Which is harder to build, floating cities or the gainz train?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:09:19 UTC No. 16374610
>>16374608
uhm, sweaty. please explain why venus isnt viable when its better than mars in any way?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:11:12 UTC No. 16374612
>>16374174
why can't they just say lunar apoapsis, why do so many spacefags need to have special words for everything. Are they also going to do this for every other body in the solar system?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:12:53 UTC No. 16374613
>>16374578
A small fission reactor should produce way more heat than an RTG, but the example I could find was the curiosity rover which had 11 lbs of Pu238 which produced 2kw of heat compared to kilo power at 28kg of uranium for 5.5kw of heat.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:13:01 UTC No. 16374614
>>16374607
I would only ever deny Australia on the grounds that whatever the payload is, it's probably dangerous and unnecessary and will be used while we're asleep.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:23:46 UTC No. 16374623
>>16374614
They didnt deny Varda entry. Why arent you returning the favor
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:35:24 UTC No. 16374640
Felonious Moskal Husk NEEDS TO GO!
https://x.com/BenSharpie64/status/1
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:36:00 UTC No. 16374641
https://x.com/davill/status/1833920
>Some of you recently asked additional questions about Comet, the thermal protection system we created for #NewGlenn, and whether we’ll paint it on our vehicle. We could—but have chosen not to
It’s over. New Glenn is ugly now
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:37:36 UTC No. 16374644
>>16374310
>Trump somehow wins
>Trump also somehow remembers to make this happen
>The first thing Elon does is completely restructure the FAA
>Immediately quits afterward
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:39:31 UTC No. 16374645
>>16374641
I'm all for showing the bare metal if the paint serves no structural purpose like on shuttle, but why the fuck did they paint a livery on the fuel tank if they are going to show the other parts bare?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:50:23 UTC No. 16374653
>>16374435
>blocked by a court
Unitary executive theory is borderline dogma in fedsoc circles, and even the most limited interpretations of the president's authority over the executive branch would leave room for massive action.
>Congress blocks Elon's actions
If Trump wins then Congress will be solidly Republican. And they can't do anything to curb the President's authority without getting him to agree or overriding his veto.
>All of this has been done before.
I think the baseline expectation is something closer to the investigation Reagan conducted, which did have an impact (though not a dramatic one).
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:51:08 UTC No. 16374654
>>16374623
>Since the signing of the Technology Safeguards Agreement by President Biden and Prime Minister Albanese in October 2023, which provides a legal and technical framework for the handling of sensitive aerospace technology, SCA is reported to have been working with NASA, with a view to US space launches from Australia
Nevermind, I guess you're cleared
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:54:23 UTC No. 16374655
>>16374640
He actually is such a retarded weirdo though. Hes not going anywhere though since he holds a stakeholder majority in SpaceX.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:57:05 UTC No. 16374659
>>16374645
The tank section is made of aluminium, isn't it? Maybe that paint also gives some protection.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:57:18 UTC No. 16374660
>>16374641
Why does it need strakes?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:59:25 UTC No. 16374663
>>16374640
fucking kek
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:00:17 UTC No. 16374664
>>16374613
Fair nuff, with Starship mass autism will no longer be an issue so maybe it could be reduced in size? I want to see what equation were used for it doe maybe I could do some maffs and figure out what it would be then. Also I want to know how fast pumps could inflate a 30 km radius balloon in Jupiters atmosphere and if it goes past the 100 bar level by the time if gets to neutral buoyancy.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:00:37 UTC No. 16374665
>>16374660
Apparently the drag they create more than pays for its weight in saved landing burn propellant.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:03:10 UTC No. 16374667
>>16374665
How many landing burns have they done again?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:03:19 UTC No. 16374668
>>16374603
Countries are paranoid as shit. Most hide it very well publicly, but every major power has a plan for if their allies turn hostile or collapse overnight. Nowadays the EU is two cunt hairs away from itself being a sovereign state and it does not trust the US to be an ally indefinitely. And if you think of the EU as a true united country (which is what its bureaucratic leaders aspire towards) then the US is already its most direct economic competitor and maintains an occupying force on the continent through backdoor deals with its subdivisions.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:03:55 UTC No. 16374669
>>16374474
19 people on 9/11. spoopy
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:03:59 UTC No. 16374670
If Elon gets kicked out of SpaceX and the company continues on at an even better pace due to lessened regulatory lawfare, what will you say then?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:05:18 UTC No. 16374673
>>16374672
Puta madre ijo de mierda
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:08:05 UTC No. 16374675
>>16374670
I will say free starship rides for useless bureaucrats
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:09:04 UTC No. 16374676
>>16374675
what about this
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:10:03 UTC No. 16374677
>>16374667
How many landing burns have YOU done again?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:10:04 UTC No. 16374678
>>16374672
>starliner and Polaris dawn overlap has given us a new record of 19 people in space
How long will this record stand? Will we get another multi mission overlap before ISS decomissions? With ISS gone, how long will it take to rebuild that capacity with new stations?
Will China and America have active moon missions at the same time?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:11:22 UTC No. 16374680
>>16374670
Can you explain how he gets kicked out as he has a supermajority of voting shares. Wouldn't he have to do something really criminal with SpaceX.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:11:50 UTC No. 16374682
>>16374676
it was all done inside a film studio. no flat earther was convinced the earth was not flat. sorry
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:12:08 UTC No. 16374683
>>16374676
Looks like fun colon caret close parentheses.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:23:53 UTC No. 16374693
>>16374680
Im asking the questions here.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:25:19 UTC No. 16374696
#MuskIsCreepy and #MuskIsAWeirdo are trending.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:28:35 UTC No. 16374700
>>16374696
If the shitlibs want people to support them they really need to stop acting like 13 year old girls. It's really off putting to see junior high brat mannerisms coming out of a "respectable bipartisan free thinker" in his mid-thirties.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:30:14 UTC No. 16374703
>>16374700
Elon said he would impregnate Taylor because she stated her opinion online. Peak incel.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:30:44 UTC No. 16374704
>>16374700
I wish I could agree with you but unfortunately this works on most people
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:34:23 UTC No. 16374708
>>16374401
>bread
go home ESL
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:35:09 UTC No. 16374709
Imagine being Jared Isaacman right now. Elon is so fucking stupid
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:36:05 UTC No. 16374713
>>16374703
When people used to post things like this you used to be able to figure out what their angle was pretty quickly. Now it's like the algorithm that's driving has fed on itself too much like some kind of incestuous ouroboros and every post just feel like its verging on Ron Pearlman levels of incomprehensible derangement. You spend more time being confused by it than anything else.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:37:11 UTC No. 16374715
>>16374713
Dude
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18337
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:39:46 UTC No. 16374718
>>16374715
And?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:41:19 UTC No. 16374720
>>16374718
And what?? Elon is too big and too involved to be shit posting like a 12 year old. Shit like this is a genuine threat to Mars
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:41:34 UTC No. 16374722
>>16374718
Incel
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:45:37 UTC No. 16374726
>>16374672
>nonamerican are 100% male
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:46:43 UTC No. 16374728
>>16374718
Post hand with timestamp
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:46:49 UTC No. 16374729
>>16374720
It's not and it never has been. Claiming that it is instead of the actual threats from the regulatory state is a much bigger issue. It's just a poor repackaging of the "we shouldn't do X until Y happens" argument.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:46:57 UTC No. 16374731
Musk has KDS and its making him dumber
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:47:54 UTC No. 16374733
>>16374653
>even the most limited interpretations of the president's authority over the executive branch would leave room for massive action.
Did you forget what happened to Mulvaney?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:49:45 UTC No. 16374737
>>16374735
>the final chapter
The epilogue
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:52:23 UTC No. 16374743
>>16374729
He couldve been more professional online about it like the SpaceX account is but instead when valid complaints are brought nobody sees, cares or even pays attention to it in the regulatory world as hes seen as a manchild that nobody can negotiate with due to his awful habbit of posting shit like this or they just straight dont want to negotiate it because he is so vehemently opposed to the people that can change what he wants. Also whats wrong with waiting to do something so that another FAR MORE IMPORTANT THING can happen first??? You sound like youre trying to discount a valid argument as a fallacy when its obviously not.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:57:17 UTC No. 16374755
>>16374743
Or, if he really wanted to make change happen instead of talking his ass off to look worse he could just fund PACs for his causes like a regular shadowy billionaire that ACTUALLY gets things done with their money.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:59:12 UTC No. 16374758
>>16374743
This is a phenomenal point. It completely invalidates the complaints about bureaucracy to the average person. If he had kept up the visage of autistic environmentalist and then complained about the government stifling progress, everyone would be behind him. Fuck I'm mad.
>>16374729
The regulators are an issue, but if you weren't also autistic, you'd understand that there are strategies to work around the impediment. He could've shut the fuck up and bribed like everyone else. They already have more money than Boeing, and they had to kill 700 people and be grounded by the rest of the world's aviation regulators before the FAA lifted a finger.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:59:40 UTC No. 16374759
>>16373880
>a fucking cope cage
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:00:26 UTC No. 16374760
When is the space walk? 2 days?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:01:04 UTC No. 16374761
>>16374760
Tonight 2AM EST
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:01:21 UTC No. 16374762
>>16374586
>This is how posting in /sfg/ in an imageless, and linkless general.
Disabling images would be some hard-core gatekeeping.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:02:00 UTC No. 16374764
>>16374733
>Did you forget what happened to Mulvaney?
There was an effort to prevent him from taking his position as acting director of the CFPB over what the law said re. appointments. The case was never fully litigated, let alone at the appellate level. Though I admit my knowledge is imperfect on the precise result of that particular episode, because it's out
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:02:02 UTC No. 16374765
>>16374760
Scrapped. They don't have a license to vent air into space.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:02:31 UTC No. 16374766
>>16374761
>09:00 of my time
I guess I know what I'll be doing tomorrow morning.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:03:33 UTC No. 16374767
>>16374765
Theyre not venting the air you blockhead they pull a vacuum first and then once closed they repressurize.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:04:07 UTC No. 16374769
>>16374463
Drew worked at SpaceX? Respect.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:05:22 UTC No. 16374770
>>16374758
>He could've shut the fuck up and bribed like everyone else.
Mars Colonization is impossible while regulatory tyranny continues. You cannot solve this problem by trying to coexist with it.
>It completely invalidates the complaints about bureaucracy to the average person
It does not. Those complaints would have been ignored, discredited, or attacked just as hard regardless. Why is this hard for you to understand?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:07:44 UTC No. 16374774
>>16374417
Same guy who claimed that rocketry was just a front for SpaceX's real mission, illegal natural gas fracking.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:10:42 UTC No. 16374776
>>16374459
So nothing. I can build a machine to do that.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:16:20 UTC No. 16374783
>>16374764
I meant his government reorganization plan. Went absolutely fucking nowhere.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conte
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:20:56 UTC No. 16374787
https://x.com/bccarcounters/status/
>spacex submitted their environmental data last month
>faa literally has their hands tied requiring them to contact another agency about it
And so the blame passes to spacex
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:22:41 UTC No. 16374791
>>16374787
>late november 2024
Ok so expect 2025.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:23:54 UTC No. 16374792
>>16374767
nah you're wrong
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:24:20 UTC No. 16374793
Felonious Huskrats BTFO
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:26:57 UTC No. 16374797
>>16374787
>IFT-5 is at best scheduled for during the election
Yeah its definetly getting the two more months treatment. SpaceX shouldve submitted their shit earlier. FRAM-2 will happen before IFT-5
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:29:09 UTC No. 16374803
> Federal Communications Commission chair Jessica Rosenworcel said Wednesday she wants to see more competition to SpaceX's internet satellite constellation Starlink.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:29:22 UTC No. 16374804
>>16374767
> Why yes, I do believe Dragon has a set of vacuum pumps and storage tanks that can pump down the capsule then repressurize. If fact, I'm going to be very insistent about that.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:30:59 UTC No. 16374807
>>16374803
Get ready to see F9 grounded for Starlink reentering over the wrong location
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:31:52 UTC No. 16374809
>>16374803
Why not administer it like any other ISP? Let him build the infrastructure and then license other companies to use it? I don’t see a way to force competition into that particular market. Nor would I want to see it.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:32:34 UTC No. 16374813
>>16374767
They are using a vacuum pump? Are there any details of this?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:33:34 UTC No. 16374815
>>16374809
how would that work exactly? this is not fixed infrastructure
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:33:52 UTC No. 16374816
>>16374804
Moron of course they do. If they just left all the air in the thing when opening up Jared would get BTFO. Do you ever think about what you say?? That air is fucking important too you think theyre just gonna throw it out when they need to keep cycling it?? They need to CYCLE IT if you havent heard yet or dont understand what happens. It would OBVIOUSLY be easier to pull all the air out and then put it back in instead of reentering the atmosphere with 0 atm anyways. How the fuck do you think it would work when they came back in at 0 atm in a 1 atm environment???
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:34:00 UTC No. 16374817
The impregnate Swift comment was based and no amount of pretending or sucking up would have spared Elon from the elite's wrath. Do you retards think he woke up one day and decided to unmask for the lulz? No, he realized that his goals have directly angered multiple interest groups. His desire to launch a meritocratic off-world colony was going to get him attacked even if licked the administration's toes on national TV. He's pissed off the slave importers, he's pissed off the MIC, and he'd pissed off the slavecattle. There's no compromise between them and his multi-planetary ambition.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:34:23 UTC No. 16374819
>>16374809
Isn't it basically a free money printer for them, I don't see what motivation they would have to let other people use their shit and cut into their profits
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:36:02 UTC No. 16374822
>>16374813
No. Because that's not how it works on Dragon. They vent to vac then refill from their normal air supply. Hence, the reduced duration of the mission.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:37:17 UTC No. 16374823
>>16374816
are you serious?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:37:20 UTC No. 16374824
Wait, they can't repressurise the capsule?...
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:37:32 UTC No. 16374825
>>16374817
Gb2r/The_Donald
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:37:35 UTC No. 16374826
>>16374815
Same way cell towers work. Make compatible hardware and let others license to use it. Cell towers are stationary but the handhelds are mobile. Starlink is the opposite where the end user is stationary but the relays are mobile. Technically it shouldn’t be much different.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:39:13 UTC No. 16374829
>>16374817
the EDS trannies have no balls (literally) and no testostorene, they can't comprehend standing up to yourself
only submitting to the mob
Musk saying crazy shit widens the overton window and protects other people who can then say a little bit less crazy shit and then it doesn't seem so crazy anymore (maybe it wasn't crazy in the first place?)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:39:16 UTC No. 16374830
>>16374816
Yes, did say you were wrong and then were going to be insistent.
Here's how you win. Pull up the Dragon specs, and show us the vacuum pumps and storage tanks. Hint: don't get confused by the normal air storage tanks because everyone will point at you and laugh.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:40:14 UTC No. 16374831
>>16374824
yes but only once or so
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:40:19 UTC No. 16374832
>>16374819
It would still be a money printer. You’d just be letting a third party connect their hardware for a fee. But, that’s the only way I could see competition to starlink happening. What’s the FCC going to do, force Dish to get good?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:41:15 UTC No. 16374835
>>16374826
so first the FCC says this technology is too shit, no subsidies for you and now they want to basically take it away from SpaceX and give it away to everyone?
fuck off
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:41:52 UTC No. 16374836
>>16374816
>>Moron of course they do. If they just left all the air in the thing when opening up Jared would get BTFO
It's only one atmosphere of delta p, spaceships ain't saturation dive chambers.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:42:35 UTC No. 16374837
>>16374832
the hardware would be satellite specific, and standardizing it in a way that others could connect to it at this point would slow things down massively
maybe they do standardize it in the future like Tesla did with their chargers (NACS)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:42:54 UTC No. 16374839
>>16374835
>[idea] Is Stupid, Here's Why It Will Never Work
>fast forward
>[idea] is creating an unfair monopoly
Is it just me or does this keep happening
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:43:03 UTC No. 16374840
two more weeks
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:43:05 UTC No. 16374841
>>16374816
Dragon has a large enough air reserve to re-pressurize the capsule multiple times. Also, you only need to use one punctuation mark. Writing LIKE this??? just makes you look like a retarded faggot.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:45:10 UTC No. 16374843
>>16374839
whats even more retarded, the FCC just rebuffed the subsidies thing recently when a third party (some consumer) sent a question or something to them
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:45:58 UTC No. 16374846
>>16374817
I think he's actually on pretty good terms with MIC. They like the potentials that Starlink offers and know that no one else is going to be able to offer anything as good any time soon. They're also pretty appreciative of Falcon bringing down launch costs and increasing launch availability. The ones he's pissed off are the ones threatened by Twitter breaking their censorship monopoly or Tesla not letting them grift as much in union fees.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:46:05 UTC No. 16374848
>>16374836
The process is:
Two days of lowering the capsule pressure by venting and changing to a pure O2 mix. Then suit. Vent to vacuum. Hatch open. Hatch closed. Repress from regular air tanks to normal pressure and mix.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:48:38 UTC No. 16374853
>>16374787
Abolish the FAA and jail anyone who had any part in this deliberate slowdown.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:50:27 UTC No. 16374855
>>16374837
>the hardware would be satellite specific
Eh? Look. Boost mobile pays AT&T to run on their cell tower network. How would some other company building their own transceiver and paying starlink to use their satellites impossible?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:54:41 UTC No. 16374857
>>16374855
its not impossible but it would mean spacex would have to give the technology away and its still under very fast development
SpaceX probably hasn't got back the dev and buildout costs of the system yet either, or if they have then they are probably pretty close to 0 at this point
SpaceX builds the constellation, develops all the technology for the satellites and the dishes, then gives away the dish technology to and would still be forced to build out the constellation?
what are you even proposing here?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:58:23 UTC No. 16374859
>>16374741
spaceflightfags: polaris dawn is improving the capabilities of private spaceflight, helping to pick up the slack lost by nasa
normies: EVIL BILLIONAIRE JOY RIDES
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:59:01 UTC No. 16374861
what makes this proposal even more retarded is that there are multiple companies trying to do the same thing
just because they suck ass, SpaceX should be forced to give away the technlogy? come on now
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:00:22 UTC No. 16374862
>>16374787
mars 2026 is off the table due to democrats. kennedy is screaming in his grave.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:01:34 UTC No. 16374864
>>16374803
leftists yesterday: starlink bad, we need less satellites
leftists today: starlink bad, we need lots of alternatives
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:01:35 UTC No. 16374865
>>16374848
just open the door lol
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:03:27 UTC No. 16374868
>>16374857
The government could recognize a "natural monopoly" and give SpaceX certain rights and responsibilities to manage it. Like the phone system before deregulation.
Never happen, because Dems hate Elon.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:04:40 UTC No. 16374869
The people saying that the way E is behaving is totally correct and actually is ¿useful? is beyond me. Like, you either have less than 18yo or you are dumb. If you think that tweeting absolute bullshit/garbage and putting a very large group of people(tens of millions) against you is something that wont affect Mars goal, you are not thinking clearly. MARS is the ultimate goal, Elon for the most part of his life fought very very hard to event attempt to reach that goal only to throw it all into the bin in the last 3-4 years .
"Yeeah lets own the libs, Trumb baby i want to suck you off, FAA baaaaad haha stupid bureaucrats...im 54 btw "
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:05:28 UTC No. 16374870
>>16374865
> pressure the same on both sides
> open door
Yes. Does your cage at the Detention Center not work that way?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:05:34 UTC No. 16374871
>>16374868
but that would be bad, why not let other constellation builders compete normally?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:05:37 UTC No. 16374872
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:06:34 UTC No. 16374874
>>16374869
shut up N
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:08:47 UTC No. 16374875
>>16374871
You want another 60k satellites up there.
>>16374868
Yeah. This is what I mean. That’s the only way you get competition to starlink.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:09:03 UTC No. 16374877
>>16374859
Liquify every normie.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:09:55 UTC No. 16374878
>>16374877
Compost your enemies.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:09:59 UTC No. 16374879
>>16374875
>You want another 60k satellites up there.
yes? Why wouldn't I
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:10:09 UTC No. 16374880
>>16374869
Blow it out your ass, faggot.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:11:00 UTC No. 16374881
>>16374416
A jettisoned hot staging ring falling on a dolphin 100nmi offshore is fine but 5nmi offshore is problematic. That is the reason as far as I can tell despite the original enviromental assessment containing an incidental takings clause addressing the matter.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:12:55 UTC No. 16374882
Newsflash (though no links or pictures), competition is good actually, government mandated monopoly is bad
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:14:17 UTC No. 16374883
>>16374872
>>16374874
>>16374880
Keep acting like complete morons
BTW , next launch is 2,5 months away
>ooops another 60 days needed
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:16:39 UTC No. 16374887
>>16374883
Eat shit and die.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:16:42 UTC No. 16374888
>>16374869
>if you have the wrong opinions gov't agencies should treat you unfairly and deny you services
You are the reason 3rd world shitholes are the way they are.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:18:44 UTC No. 16374891
>>16374883
>reddit spacing
Go suck off a shotgun, faggot.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:18:55 UTC No. 16374893
funny how mars went through a great oxidation event in its early history and there are fossils all over the surface yet the possibility of life having been there is still up for debate.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:23:52 UTC No. 16374895
Lol saw a really retaded post by CSS
Lmao even
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:26:03 UTC No. 16374897
8h hours until Polaris stream
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:26:10 UTC No. 16374898
>>16374888
we dont live in fairy tail world with equality and goodness but you can take 2 different approaches to what Elon has been doing. Either play the 2 face/mask strategy where you skeep your friends close and your enemies closer, work in the background , try to elect members in different government bodies so they will help you in the future, be friend with x or y so you have benefits. It doenst matter if you are a hardcore ring-winger , you are getting stuff done .
Or be current Elon, everyone trying to put sticks in all his companys wheels, people only sees you as an evil billionaire, not an autistic genius with a bold goal. Very sad
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:26:49 UTC No. 16374899
>>16374803
>Rosenworcel
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:27:39 UTC No. 16374901
>>16374898
Yes that's literally a third world mindset. Die screaming.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:27:54 UTC No. 16374902
>>16374672
would have been nice if polaris dawn was shown above but maybe at this point they are below ISS orbit?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:28:01 UTC No. 16374903
>>16374895
>retaded post by CSS
Redundant, they're all retarded.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:28:15 UTC No. 16374904
>>16374891
Nta but reddit spacing is a newfag trap that is only ever mentioned on /pol/. You fell for it, I fell for it when I first got here years ago. It is deeply shameful but normal for newfags. There are redditors but the spacing of your posts so that it is easier to digest and separate ideas is not an indication of them.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:28:16 UTC No. 16374905
>>16374883
Fuck off
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:28:18 UTC No. 16374906
>>16373946
you do, in fact, need to wait
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:29:23 UTC No. 16374909
if elon was a normie who could suck off bureaucrats then there would never have been a spacex. that's the hand we've been dealt
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:29:58 UTC No. 16374910
>>16374899
Hello, 4ICE? Id like to report an overstayed welcome.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:30:39 UTC No. 16374911
>>16374902
They are not
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:31:29 UTC No. 16374913
>>16374899
It gets worse:
>Rosen
>wordcel
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:31:34 UTC No. 16374914
>>16374909
He couldve just understood that normies suck off bureaucrats and conformed until all his major goals were accomplished and had his own corporatocracy set up on Mars that nobody could regulate.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:33:03 UTC No. 16374915
>>16374914
finally someone with more than half a brain
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:33:35 UTC No. 16374916
>>16374799
KAMIKAZE
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:34:13 UTC No. 16374917
>>16374899
>>16374910
stupid frogposters
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:34:22 UTC No. 16374918
>>16374865
>t. byford dolphin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEt
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:35:11 UTC No. 16374921
>>16374917
Go away please. Thanks.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:36:07 UTC No. 16374922
>>16374910
come on, a bureaucrat with a name so close to containing 'wordcel' can't just not be noticed..
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:41:53 UTC No. 16374925
>>16374914
We will never get to mars until the bureaucrats power is broken. Please start using your other five brain cells and understand this.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:43:02 UTC No. 16374926
>>16374000
they were afraid to try
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:44:24 UTC No. 16374928
>>16374899
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessi
>Rosenworcel is Jewish.
She's also married to a lawyer whose entire firm is built around representing clients before the FCC, but I'm sure that's not an issue.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:44:26 UTC No. 16374929
>>16374914
What if instead of doing that he had everyone who opposed him executed?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:44:49 UTC No. 16374930
>>16374641
so this is the power of shitty BE-4 TWR…
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:46:51 UTC No. 16374932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvu
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:50:13 UTC No. 16374935
>>16374803
>almost two-thirds of the satellites that are in space right now and has a very high portion of internet traffic... Our economy doesn't benefit from monopolies. So we've got to invite many more space actors in, many more companies that can develop constellations and innovations in space
Out of touch comment from someone who's never lived in a rural area and tried to get broadband or tried using legacy satellite internet services.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:51:39 UTC No. 16374936
>>16374839
I remember when they were saying this about commercial spaceflight 20 years ago.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:53:16 UTC No. 16374939
>>16374925
bureaucrats power is what keeps corporativism/cleptocracy (basically modern USA) running. Its like saying "we want free healthcare, 100k$ median salary, and basically no taxes ... aaand also cheap houses in good neighborhoods for everyone"
bureaucrats power will not disappear, even if you spend you life fighting against it . Elon wont solve shit
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:53:42 UTC No. 16374940
>>16374869
100% agree. Mars is the goal. Just like how bureaucrats doing nothing would speed up Mars, Elon not tweeting would speed up Mars. I like spaceflight. I hate the SLS because I like spaceflight. If Elon, after all his contributions, fucks up at the finish line? Creates this vehicle and then ruins any chance it'll be used? I'll shit on his grave
>im 54 btw
I forget this constantly.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:53:57 UTC No. 16374941
>>16374929
>>16374925
This would never happen short of a revolution which would never happen or be succesful in a modern America. The best strategy which is plainly obvious is use corruption or try to blend in to get what you want instead of blathering on about it online and making yourself look like a fool, burning bridges with those that hold power and losing public support that is imperative for elected officials to have which in case you havent noticed was far higher before he started sperging out as democrats supported the environmentalist facade and republicans were entirely indifferent if not supportive of more spaceflight. Mars is being now impeded because Musk isnt playing to win.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:54:56 UTC No. 16374942
>>16374932
>music over the radio
kek
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:56:19 UTC No. 16374944
>>16374888
Fucking moron. If sticking to your principles means NO MARS then throw them into the fucking garbage can and bribe the worthless bureaucrat scum
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:57:10 UTC No. 16374945
>>16374941
>>16374940
>musk isnt playing to win
>fucks it up at he finish line
best way ive heard it described yet
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:58:01 UTC No. 16374947
>>16374944
exactly.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:58:22 UTC No. 16374948
>>16374914
"You electrified the industry. You did that."
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:58:38 UTC No. 16374949
>>16374940
>Elon not tweeting would speed up Mars.
Your strategy is to comply with being raped and hope your rapist stops raping you
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:59:54 UTC No. 16374952
>>16374949
You're so fucking stupid you've forgotten what we're even talking about. Or you're as autistic as Elon and don't understand the game. You just lost it btw
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:01:06 UTC No. 16374953
>>16374944
Imagine actually seriously entertaining the notion that we won't get to Mars because of mean tweets.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:01:13 UTC No. 16374954
>>16374928
Lol, you had to look that up to know?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:01:58 UTC No. 16374955
>>16374918
only one atmosphere difference
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:02:09 UTC No. 16374956
>>16374953
Apparently the Biden regime is only hostile because Musk tweets too much.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:02:20 UTC No. 16374957
>>16374949
The situation was that the people who rule and will always rule the government were good to him before and when he went and started publicly denouncing them and everything they stood for they turned around and fucked him over which was a clearly obvious outcome that couldve easily been avoided until he was out of their sphere of influence. You are misconstruing or misunderstanding the argument at its core.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:02:24 UTC No. 16374958
>>16374944
Principles is the only way we ever get to Mars. Abandoning good principles and becoming just another part of dysfunctional earther tyranny gets us stuck here forever. They will never allow you to go to Mars because they're smart enough to understand that doing so put you beyond their power, and that makes you a threat. They will never allow a significant threat to their power to exist. You either break them, or you stay on Earth forever. Those are the only possible paths.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:02:44 UTC No. 16374959
>>16374942
>>16374951
>bell in space
how is that even possible
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:04:06 UTC No. 16374960
>>16374959
Newton’s third law
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:04:11 UTC No. 16374961
>>16374955
Even nine atmosphere's doesn't seem like a whole lot but our perception is skewed since we're at about 1atm all the time.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:04:21 UTC No. 16374962
>>16374959
You just have to manually swing it
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:04:21 UTC No. 16374963
>yeah guys my principles are that we should kill all bureaucrats 8v&oe that will never happen
>what do you mean the bureaucrats are impeding my business now that i pissed them off
Morons
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:04:38 UTC No. 16374964
>>16374954
I wanted to see if I could find any direct ties between her and the people the FCC is supposed to be regulating. Usually this is pretty easy, like she would have worked as a high level executive at comcast or something before going to the FCC, but a tangential family tie is about the second most common outcome.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:05:04 UTC No. 16374965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijm
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:05:07 UTC No. 16374966
>>16374959
inertia is quantized
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:05:47 UTC No. 16374968
>>16374961
One atmosphere of difference isn't sufficient to cause explosive decompression. The air just wooshes out. Your ears won't even hurt because you'll be wearing a pressure suit because otherwise you'd suffocate.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:07:49 UTC No. 16374970
>>16374958
Dog some tiny Texas environmentalist office is hold it up right now, you aren't fighting shit. You play nice, convince the military there's a strategic advantage to having a computer chip factory out of China's reach, and they fund the self sustaining city for you. There is a path to Mars but Elon isn't taking it
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:09:45 UTC No. 16374973
>>16374970
Literally this. Im wondering how many braindead /sfg/gers are unironically arguing otherwise or if its one of two fags that are being loud
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:12:01 UTC No. 16374975
>>16374970
TCEQ isn't holding them up, they can just pay the fine again if it mounts to that. If they try to pull some FAA shit they will have the governor and legislature breathing down their necks but so far they're mainly just following the law. It was the conflicting EPA guidance making a mess of things early on but that seems resolved.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:12:23 UTC No. 16374976
Thanks God SpaceX still has Mars as the ultimate goal and pre-2020 Elon trained some superb people to keep the company on focus. Today i can firmly say Elon has no longer Mars in his mind as top priority
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:13:27 UTC No. 16374977
elon loves america and doesn't want to see it destroyed
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:13:57 UTC No. 16374978
>>16374976
why do you say that, why would Mars not be his top priority right now
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:14:31 UTC No. 16374979
>>16374977
WE FUCKING DO FUCK URF YOU DUMB NIGGER WE WANT TO GO TO MARS AND GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM EARTH
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:15:32 UTC No. 16374982
You aren't going to Mars, calm down.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:15:33 UTC No. 16374983
>>16374976
fuck off FED.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:16:13 UTC No. 16374985
Jared is so based it’s unreal. Living legend. I hope jared keeps making billions and pours it into advancing what is needed to get off this rock robyn
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:16:16 UTC No. 16374986
>>16374603
Happened to the Brits, it's why they don't currently have a space program and their subs use American Tridents
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:16:25 UTC No. 16374987
>>16374899
>Jessica
>Rosen
>wor[d]cel
3/3
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:16:31 UTC No. 16374988
>>16374977
>Earther Elon
grim
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:16:44 UTC No. 16374990
>>16374977
>the immigrant finally exposes himself as an earther
knew it. now we can finally move on as hes proven himself to be an anti-mars retard
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:17:42 UTC No. 16374991
when is fram2
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:18:39 UTC No. 16374993
>>16374977
So Elon is an e*rther now? I think that says enough about whether >>16374976 is true.
>>16374991
December this year, pretty cool mission but I dont think they have any EVAs planned :(.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:19:38 UTC No. 16374996
I haven't checked out sfg for a few months, why are posters suddenly saying Muskrat is disinterested in Mars?
Are the election year realpolitik decisions Musky is making getting politisperg panties in a bunch?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:20:24 UTC No. 16374997
You need America to get to Mars.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:20:49 UTC No. 16374998
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel
>Following our in-orbit formulation of Ritonavir Form III, we're announcing a collaboration with @SSPCentre to pioneer mathematical modeling of gravity's role in crystallization. This groundbreaking work links polymorphism to gravity, an enabler for processing via microgravity.
Varda news fellas, gather 'round.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:21:14 UTC No. 16374999
>>16374970
The fact that a tiny environmental office is able to hold up shit is the exact reason why we need to fight. You don't play nice with them because you will never be able to appease them. These are people who believe that colonizing Mars is wrong and must be stopped, and will use whatever power they have to achieve that. There is no accord to be found with those kind of people, and they will never allow anything to exist outside of their reach because they believe that their reach should be absolute.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:22:04 UTC No. 16375000
>>16374985
It's what I would do (and what I'm striving to do)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:22:53 UTC No. 16375002
>>16374603
That's exactly what we did back in the 1970s and they were so buttmad about it they actually got their shit together for long enough to finish the Ariane 1.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:23:04 UTC No. 16375003
>>16374996
>realpolitik
Are you baiting? It is the exact opposite
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:23:31 UTC No. 16375004
Do you realize that this year we will have only 3 launches of Starship ? After "late November" there is no way to launch again.
Even if next year they launch 5 times is still not remotely enough to understand orbital refueling and/or get experience on reusing the booster/ship.
With this cadence 2025 and 2026 will be "wasted" on refuling and reusability. Still nothing about Life support system, far away comms, fuel boil off rate, radiation , Raptor performance after spending 1 month in space .... AND ALL OF THIS without even doing a landing practise on the moon. Time is running out like crazy
>>16374985
Absolutely. Living the dream like it should be. He is doing everything right to be on one of the crew to land on the moon.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:23:34 UTC No. 16375005
I will no longer listen to E*rther propaganda in this general. You exposed yourself as such and even admitted that Elon currently cares more about America than he does the martian colony.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:24:37 UTC No. 16375007
>>16374997
Exactly. The America that enabled elon to create SpaceX must still function to some degree for all this to happen. It is love but it is instrumental to his goal.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:25:18 UTC No. 16375008
>>16374999
Dude, Boeing killed 700 people and the FAA still wasn't going to do anything because Boeing owns them. It took CHINA grounding the 737 for them to do it. This is not ideological, it is by design. They impede to the limit of the law or you pay them to fuck off. This is not what you think
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:25:55 UTC No. 16375011
>>16374996
He's a bit too chuddy apparently for speaking the truth about the need for a Mars colony, efficiency in government, and the cure for Taytay and other cat ladies is to get pregnant in order to correct their neurochemical imbalances.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:26:55 UTC No. 16375013
>>16374970
>some tiny Texas environmentalist office is hold it up right now
So, destroy that office?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:27:04 UTC No. 16375014
If Musk had a stratospheric rigid airship launch system he would not be gimped by faux environmentalist shill obstructionism about beetles and fish.
Because all that shit would be happening near space.
Those terminally retarded people are probably secretly foreign agents who want to stymie American space capabilities.
Food for thought, as the powers that be latch onto literally any excuse they can to slow him down.
They want to delay his tests until after the election for political reasons, because he is outspoken about resisting the current regime.
Can't have morale being improved by a successful test of new technology by someone politically opposed to them.
He should devote resources to cooperation with other companies already invested in the concept to accelerate development.
Doubly so if after two months they just do it again as everyone expects.a
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:27:07 UTC No. 16375015
>>16375007
It is somewhat amusing that rich people only discover civic responsibility when they want permission to do something
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:27:13 UTC No. 16375016
>>16375008
>They impede to the limit of the law or you pay them to fuck off.
And for some reason you see this as something that should be accommodated rather than corrected
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:30:27 UTC No. 16375018
>>16375008
This.
All Boeing shills should be airlocked and their operations nationalized.
You don't see LM pulling this shit.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:31:19 UTC No. 16375020
Anybody in here advocating Musk pay attention to politics instead of avoiding it at all costs is an Earther subverting your Martian ambitions to get you to pay your attention to politics instead of towards Mars. Eyes on the prize people.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:31:40 UTC No. 16375023
>>16375016
SPACEX IS A ROCKET COMPANY NOT A GOVERNMENT PARTY YOU FUCKING MORON!!! THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO FIX THE GOVERNMENT, THEY'RE WORKING ON MARS!!!!
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:32:43 UTC No. 16375025
>>16375004
At some point the Artemis audits will list HLS as ‘significantly behind,’ and all SpaceX can say is
>we are literally trying bro what the fuck.
NASA really needs to step in now and do whatever is in its authority to help speed it up. SX could just move dev to Florida but we’ve already seen Tory and Bezos complaining about the idea. They claim launch testing interrupts their own operating (snakes).
Even if it takes walking into Kamala’s oval office and begging her for support (in a worst-case-scenario) this is something Elon needs to be prepared to do. Bill Nelson (or whoever his replacement could be?) needs to be prepared to let SLS go, or at the very least help foster Starship and not let it get politically strangled.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:32:49 UTC No. 16375026
Is Ketamine really that bad ?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:33:12 UTC No. 16375027
>>16375016
There's no correcting it retard, just Mars or no Mars
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:33:19 UTC No. 16375028
>>16375014
>Those terminally retarded people are probably secretly foreign agents who want to stymie American space capabilities.
Correct.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:33:37 UTC No. 16375031
>>16375018
>nationalized
The only people who might be worse at running Boeing than the current management is the current management class of the government. At least with the current establishment there's the chance Boeing could go into bankruptcy and die, or get bought out and have its few remaining functional parts salvaged. If it gets nationalized it stays incompetent while also becoming immortal.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:34:30 UTC No. 16375032
>>16374869
>upside down taco marks
>>16374898
>third world corrupt brain
This poster is Mexican and needs to be deported.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:35:16 UTC No. 16375033
>>16375026
Clearly.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:35:56 UTC No. 16375036
>>16375023
>>16375027
Top shelf faggot thinking here, guys. Earth won't let you get to Mars unless you fix Earth first. If you really want Mars, then the forces here that will do everything to stop you are your primary concern, and breaking their ability to impede you is your most important goal.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:37:47 UTC No. 16375039
>Not bribing the beauracrat a politician class because muh ethics
Oh well, guess we won't get off this shithole before a fiat currency, demographic and knowledge collapse turns the entire planet into Brazil 2 but even shitter. Thanks Elon.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:38:54 UTC No. 16375041
>>16375014
>stratospheric rigid airship launch system
Steam punk is cool and all…
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:39:11 UTC No. 16375042
>>16375036
HAHAHA did you .... did you just said "unless you fix Earth first" ....
>imagine thinking that earth can be fixed
c'mon people lets be somewhat serious
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:39:16 UTC No. 16375043
>>16375033
stupid frogposter
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:41:00 UTC No. 16375044
>>16375013
>On May 23, 2023, the Texas Legislature adopted the TCEQ Sunset legislation, SB 1397
They already did, it was abolished last year by the state legistlature but doesn't take effect yet.
https://www.tceq.texas.gov/agency/s
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:41:01 UTC No. 16375045
>>16375036
>fix Earth first
You did not just say that here holy shit man
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:41:02 UTC No. 16375046
>>16375042
If we don't strip the managerial class of most or all of their power then we never get to Mars. It's that simple. If you think that's impossible, then so if getting to Mars.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:41:46 UTC No. 16375047
>>16375036
This is literally the classic
>we cant go to mars unless we fix earth first
Thinking presented by environmentalists. You are digging yourself a deeper and deeper grave. You are likely the immigrant Trump OP as well arent you?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:42:12 UTC No. 16375049
>>16375046
You're such a faggot. This is video game tier understanding of how the world works
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:42:43 UTC No. 16375050
>>16375036
Cut the ropes that bind you before you attempt to fly.
>>16375044
>May of last year
>office still isn't shuttered
This shit should've been an empty lot for sale one month after it was shut down.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:42:49 UTC No. 16375052
>>16375045
I told you here he was an earther. >>16375020 he is only making it more and more obvious as the conversation continues and more freudian slips occur.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:42:58 UTC No. 16375053
>>16375046
You're such a faggot. This is video game tier understanding of how the world works
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:43:15 UTC No. 16375054
>>16374940
>im 54 btw
he just turned 53, he was born June 28 of 1971
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:44:15 UTC No. 16375055
>>16375046
Retard
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:44:38 UTC No. 16375056
>>16375049
>>16375053
A corrupt bureaucracy refuses to allow you to get to Mars, as you getting to Mars is directly contrary to their desire to control everything. What do you do?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:45:32 UTC No. 16375058
>>16375056
Call anon a faggot and move on.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:45:43 UTC No. 16375060
>>16375056
Are you the trump OP yes or no.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:45:49 UTC No. 16375061
>>16375056
They arent a homogenised hivemind you dumb cunt. You just need to pay off the people at the top and it all follows from there.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:46:19 UTC No. 16375062
>16375046
>This guy thinks the nuke-from-orbit and remove the atmosphere posting was ironic.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:46:32 UTC No. 16375063
>>16375023
Earth politics will affect Martians regardless until they achieve independence and a functioning defense force.
Governments will pretend they have the authority to terminate the mission and force evacuation.
If we can't fix Earth, or a part of it, any Mars project is doomed.
Imagine exporting the cancer to Mars.
It must be cut out first.
>>16375041
It really is cool. And definitely possible, if you have enough high altitude airships.
Technology like that would have more applications than assisting spaceflight, which is why it would be profitable.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:47:27 UTC No. 16375064
>>16375061
>You just need to pay off the people at the top
Your kind will not be welcome on Mars.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:48:01 UTC No. 16375065
>>16375063
>we need to fix earth first again
He DOUBLED DOWN NO FUCKING WAY
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:48:36 UTC No. 16375066
>>16375063
British politics will affect Americans regardless until they achieve independence and a functioning defense force. The crown will pretend they have the authority to terminate the colonies and force evacuation.
If we can't fix England, or a part of it, any American project is doomed. Imagine exporting the cancer to the new world. It must be cut out first.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:49:15 UTC No. 16375067
>>16375065
He's literally a Mexican. He's too dumb and brown to understand why the logic fails.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:49:38 UTC No. 16375069
>>16375064
At this rate no one is going to Mars so congratulations on your ethics I guess?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:51:01 UTC No. 16375070
yknow i was kind of siding with the elon needs to be political crowd for a while but saying
>we need to fix earth first
>elon cares more about america than mars
is really not helping your case
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:51:02 UTC No. 16375071
>>16375069
>"We're corrupt, you have to play our game, if you don't you can't leave, and it's your fault"
And you wonder why people wish violence on you
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:51:05 UTC No. 16375072
>>16375061
You can't pay them off because money isn't their real desire. It's power. They feel that they should have the authority to regulate every decision and tax every action, and setting yourself up on Mars as something independent of their power runs directly against this. They'll say that you can't go settle Mars because of some planetary protection bullshit, but the real reason is they will not ever allow anyone to be outside of their ability to have power over them. They'll keep everyone on Earth for the same reason the the Berlin Wall was built and no amount of money is going to change that.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:51:39 UTC No. 16375074
just be a boing, simple as
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:51:48 UTC No. 16375075
>>16375063
>If we can't fix Earth, or a part of it, any Mars project is doomed.
A dying man can create offspring as long as at least one of his seed makes it to the destination before he expires.
Not a perfect analogy but you can see where I'm going with this when it comes to a self sustaining colony.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:52:28 UTC No. 16375076
>>16375065
All mission critical components and equipment will have to be manufactured on Earth for the foreseeable future.
You aren't getting around that problem.
Pretending otherwise is even more dangerous, it's just ignoring the issue.
IDGAF about your LARP fantasies.
Mars colony will need Earth to survive for many, many cycles.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:53:15 UTC No. 16375077
Do South Africa and Brazil have good space programs?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:53:30 UTC No. 16375078
>>16375072
The money is fake and gay.
This anon gets it.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:54:00 UTC No. 16375079
>>16375072
i perfectly understand your point and i understand that if nothing changed you will be under their yoke all the time but ... how ... how do you change the system ? i dont see a way
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:54:13 UTC No. 16375080
>>16375071
Stop putting words in my mouth you fucking spastic. I don't like them either, but that's not the point. The system cannot be fixed so you either have to physically remove it all with mass violence or do what every other richnigger does until you achieve your goals. Elon isn't about to start a revolution against the US government so what is he meant to do?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:55:40 UTC No. 16375081
>>16374571
I don’t know what I am anymore… no one represents my interests, it feels like. I hate troons and lefties and crabs so I know who I am voting for—and I’ve long since left the cringy “libertarian” and “classical liberal” phases behind.
Guess we don’t always need to fit in a box, idk. Are there any “-isms” that describe what >we should be?
Von Braun was Schutzstaffel but only because he was an autist. Musk gave his son hormone blockers and now regrets it and his pendulum has swung hard the other way (he claims to be centrist but come on now he’s obviously had some sort of recent awakening, probably caused by a lot of different factors.) I wouldn’t say I’m accelerationist or technocrat or whatever.
I just want to expand to Mars and beyond but nobody seems to care. Sometimes I really wish aliens WERE real. Imagine a hostile entity that lived at Proxima. It would unite Earth and make us expand space tech so rapidly
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:57:08 UTC No. 16375082
>If we can't fix Earth, or a part of it,
>elon loves america and doesn't want to see it destroyed
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:59:23 UTC No. 16375083
>>16375079
Musk needs to broaden his sphere of coordination with other private interests and companies until the diameter of influence reaches critical mass.
There are avenues for this to happen.
Imagine him even offering launch services and the like to other counties.
USA aren't the only ones interested in Mars.
International expansion would create an incentive for US plutocrats to play ball themselves.
Flip the script.
Of course, this would start a war too. The plutocrats aren't just going to let that happen without a fight.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:59:55 UTC No. 16375084
>>16375079
I'm not gonna lie, but at the moment we're kinda running dangerously low on good options.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:01:11 UTC No. 16375086
>>16375083
>Imagine him even offering launch services and the like to other counties.
it already happens through axiom and probably vast soon
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:01:18 UTC No. 16375087
>>16375083
That’s kinda what Axiom is. Isn’t saudi arabia chartering a complete flight on Dragon with their astronauts via Axiom? SpaceX is sort of the new Interkosmos
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:01:58 UTC No. 16375088
i dont care about Polaris, i want to see astronauts descending into the dark realms of Shackleton crater
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:02:42 UTC No. 16375090
i care about Polaris, i don't want to see astronauts descending into the dark realms of Shackleton crater
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:03:18 UTC No. 16375091
>>16375088
spacex would send a dragon there if they wanted but it would quickly draw the ire of nasa and congress and elon would get arrested and spacex shut down
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:03:37 UTC No. 16375092
>>16375088
One step at a time. Jared wants to see SS man-capable. Only a matter of time before “private dragon missions” become “private lunar landings”
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:04:35 UTC No. 16375093
>>16375080
>you either have to physically remove it all with mass violence
Yeah
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:04:38 UTC No. 16375094
>>16375091
Nawwww, dragon isn’t lunar-capable and they don’t want to go through the headache of it now that Starship is the main focus
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:05:27 UTC No. 16375095
>>16375081
There is nobody that represents our interests of an interplanetary people. Not until we get off this world. The only thing we can do to help is get a job at SpaceX and take those long hours for low pay until we are out there. I am happy being that, and if indentured servitude is what is required to live and work on Mars for SpaceX, I would gladly accept it. The best there is to describe our beliefs is interplanetary expansionism. It is my core tenet that we colonize our system that is our God given right, and right now there is no room on Earth for us. So we must leave it behind as fast as possible.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:06:55 UTC No. 16375096
>>16375087
>>16375086
I don't know a great deal about SpaceX operations.
If SpaceX costs are really as low as anons have said, he could offer these services to less inordinately wealthy countries to set up their own satellite systems.
That internationalism would create a buffer against US antitrust actions.
That would really tick many powerful interests right off. At first they would try to shut it down.
But supposing some of his infrastructure falls outside their jurisdiction, it would allow operations to proceed.
Rather than Mars being a US exclusive project, it becomes an international one.
That would scare them into cooperating.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:07:12 UTC No. 16375097
>>16375094
starship is grounded for the forseeable future thanks to herr harris
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:09:43 UTC No. 16375100
Do you think they will let SpX send a cargo version of SS to Mars in 26? I dont think it wont even be ready by that time ...
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:13:11 UTC No. 16375103
>>16375036
>>16375063
>actually pulling a "fix Earth's problems first" but from the other side
Horseshoetheorybros, we got another one
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:13:12 UTC No. 16375104
>>16375097
Its grounded because SpaceX submitted new data about the path way too late and FAA had requirements (yes they were forced to) to have an indepth review of it with another agency.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:13:51 UTC No. 16375105
>>16375097
The regulations are out of control but not because of some puppet master controlling SpaceX as some marionette. It’s just shitty regulation and an administration that is, really more than anything else, extremely disinterested moreso than actively hostile.
Don’t get me wrong, being disinterested can be bad in many ways. And a certain orange man could certainly be way more beneficial. But this is an “industry problem” more than a political problem I say. I’ve never seen biden or kamala go in front of the mic and say Artemis HLS bad, Starship bad, Dragon bad. If anything they’re elected officials (thinking of Bill Nelson, Pam Melroy, etc.) LOVE spacex publicly speak highly of them.
Kamala/Biden are just missing that bridge of a person who can actively explain how bad it is rn and why it’s important. They need someone to sit them down and point out how important this is. This is where Nelson is failing—that should be his job
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:16:13 UTC No. 16375107
>>16375103
At the very least this conversation has proven beyond a doubt that the fags who are saying Musk should be political are E*rthers and can be immediatly taunted and disregarded. They are likely the same niggers that are constantly bringing up US politics in here unprompted to try and get us to vote for whichever candidate they prefer.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:19:20 UTC No. 16375108
>>16375093
That would cause a systematic collapse of all the networks and trade routes Musk relies on to operate his factories.
Not realistic.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:21:14 UTC No. 16375112
>>16375093
How do you think a civil war, mass death from cities starving, destruction if infrastructure and energy grid, supply chain collapse, foreign nations pumping weapons into different splinter factions, etc etc etc will affect the mars timeline anon kun?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:21:35 UTC No. 16375114
>>16375096
There is nowhere outside their jurisdiction. They feel that their jurisdiction is everywhere. Rocket Lab has to get approval from the FAA before launching Electron in New Zealand
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:21:41 UTC No. 16375115
>>16375108
None of these e*rthers play to win because that method wouldnt get us to care about politics, it would do the opposite. Thats why they recommend retarded solutions like that since it aligns with their real goal and will make morons think theyre right.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:23:01 UTC No. 16375116
>>16375107
Okay pie in the sky LARP shill.
Earth politics don't matter on Mars.
It's not like a thermonuclear war breaking out on Earth would adversely affect the survival of a Mars colony.
Sure the Martians could come home with some of the tech needed to restart civilization, but getting back would be impossible for a very, very long time.
Interplanetary civilization isn't about one planet in exclusion to another. It's about both planets mutually improving one another and providing critical redundancies for species survival.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:24:02 UTC No. 16375118
>>16375115
Shut the fuck up.
Your terminally retarded LARP isn't going anywhere.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:24:22 UTC No. 16375119
>>16375112
Accelerate.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:25:15 UTC No. 16375121
>>16375116
>>16375118
Interesting timing and language...
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:25:22 UTC No. 16375122
the answer is to get the ship+booster ready and then make extremely petty
>we are ready to launch
>we are waiting on the FAA
>this is holding up Artemis
>China will beat us to the Moon
posts with the official SpaceX account. Make the posts daily. Every morning say “day 58 of waiting to launch. We are now 18 months behind schedule compared to where we could be. Please note this delay is consequential and, unfortunately, does not rest on anything we are in control of” and do it every single damn morning
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:26:10 UTC No. 16375123
>>16375114
>There is nowhere outside their jurisdiction. They feel that their jurisdiction is everywhere
That's not true. Their highly inflated opinions don't really matter.
There's only so much their monopoly money can buy.
>Rocket Lab has to get approval from the FAA before launching Electron in New Zealand
That's because it's a US company, right?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:26:34 UTC No. 16375124
>>16375122
This but also mail animal heads to the FAA
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:27:04 UTC No. 16375126
>>16375114
Varda needed a re-entry license.
Do you need an FAA license to land on the Moon? To take off from the Moon??
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:28:03 UTC No. 16375128
>>16375121
Fair point.
Both those posts are mine however.
And you can't address the fact that Earth politics will be retarded and affect life on Mars for the foreseeable future.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:28:23 UTC No. 16375129
Guys. Mars will not happen unless we develop a smart enough AI to develop wormhole technology which we can use to teleport the people I don't like somewhere else
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:31:00 UTC No. 16375130
>>16375126
They haven't established that yet, but there's no reason that they couldn't. The bureaus are unelected groups with no simple counter to their authority and the power to create regulations that carry the same weight as congressionally passed law. There's nothing to stop them from dreaming up the need for "lunar transit papers" and making everyone else go along with the idea.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:32:17 UTC No. 16375134
>>16375122
SpaceX should retweet every Chinese launch, state or private, with hashtag ThanksFAA.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:33:52 UTC No. 16375135
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:34:10 UTC No. 16375136
>>16375134
kek
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:34:13 UTC No. 16375137
>>16375122
Do this Elon. Make sure to dump the daily post at the top of everyone's feeds too.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:36:20 UTC No. 16375139
>>16375072
>You can't pay them off because money isn't their real desire. It's power.
this, they already own the printing presses and every company/asset/position of any real value and have access to as much money as they want or need, their real goal is eliminating us as their only competition and then ruling the world as the "chosen" 1% for eternity
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:37:55 UTC No. 16375141
>>16375135
demoralization shill detected
Mars cannot survive without Earth until proven otherwise.
Deal with it.
The Mars project is supposed to improve life on Earth for everyone.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:40:40 UTC No. 16375146
Shill pretends he's going to Mars.
In reality he's just trying to con you into thinking Earth doesn't matter.
Don't fall for the b8.
We all know Earth is mission critical.
And that those who currently dominate her really aren't.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:41:44 UTC No. 16375148
>>16375139
>>16375141
you are an earther. running our logic in circles so it can reach your true goal will not work anymore. i do not listen to earther scum. janny should nuke this thread asap because you retards have made anons not liking something elon is doing in to 'do exactly what my party says'. this thread is literally just /pol/ tier discussion and its entirely your fault.
if you think mars colonization is done for improving earth, you really havent listened to a single thing elon has said and dont care one bit about colonization. the whole point of going to mars is to 'expand consciousness' as elon puts it. the whole point is the point that the pilgrims came to america for, the point that colombus sailed in to the endless ocean for, for the sake of the innate human desire of exploration and expansion of the unknown and the need to escape a hostile home planet.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:43:56 UTC No. 16375150
>>16375146
>>16375141
>you need to care about earth if youre ever going to mars and caring for earth involves burning bridges with all the important people that control it for nothing in return
And you call us shills? This is abject sabotage of a colony.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:44:20 UTC No. 16375152
Dude just let the cabal run earth and stop the Mars mission.
Don't do anything about it because Mars exists, trust me Earth resources are irrelevant.
ishygddt
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:44:39 UTC No. 16375153
>>16375146
>Earth is critical [to the mars project]
true
>and those who run Earth aren’t mission critical
False
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:45:43 UTC No. 16375158
>>16375152
if you cant tell yet, nobody likes you or believes you here anymore. you would be better off trying to convince people on /pol/ than here, hint hint on your next destination.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:46:43 UTC No. 16375160
>>16375105
What do you think of how Pence handled the Space Counsel?
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:46:55 UTC No. 16375161
>MOOOOOODS
>KILL THIS THREAD RIGHT FUCKING NOW
shill talk
>>16375150
>burning bridges with all the important people that control it
They aren't important, of mission critical.
They are replaceable.
Earth is not replaceable.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:48:00 UTC No. 16375162
>my solution is kill everyone that allows the world to run as is
nice solution
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:48:07 UTC No. 16375163
>muh /pol/
What a disgusting wretch you are
you care nothing for your mother, and will never go to Mars
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:50:05 UTC No. 16375167
>>16375162
Anyone who has paid even the smallest bit of attention to how the world is running would rejoice at the chance to watch it burn
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:52:43 UTC No. 16375169
>>16375160
I don’t feel too personal about it one way or another but berger and other space twitter leftyfags who show up on my timeline state he was way more hands-on (inb4 the photo ha ha, that’s not what I meant) than Kamala has been.
Granted this is on a scale of “kind of involved”
to “not involved”. The space council is dumb overall it puts too much power in people who otherwise don’t give a flying fuck about space and only works if you have some autistic VP who likes trains plains and rockets.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:52:49 UTC No. 16375170
Who's working on something like this that will allow two or three moon or Mars "explorers" to live comfortably while traversing rough terrain at a few miles per hour? Please don't tell me NASA are the only ones and only have a billion dollar non-functional prototype based on a 30 year old design.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:53:50 UTC No. 16375171
>>16375148
>janny should nuke this thread asap because you retards have made
calm down, Seth
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:54:25 UTC No. 16375172
>>16375170
JAXA/Toyota
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:54:59 UTC No. 16375174
>>16375162
You should probably find somewhere else to post instead.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:56:43 UTC No. 16375177
>>16375162
Wait this is based though. War of the world Martians had a point, you know…
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:57:52 UTC No. 16375179
>>16375172
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar
nice, thanks
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 23:59:53 UTC No. 16375180
>>16375179
It’s so ugly but yeah JAXA is apparently committed to supplying it so it’s [supposedly] more than just an “idea,” it’s actually happening.
It needs a redesign though
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:00:37 UTC No. 16375181
>>16375177
doing that before we are off planet is retarded. so is trying to remove them from power or remove the power from them as they will obviously hold on to it. especially when your method of 'removing the power' is making a fool of yourself online.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:01:01 UTC No. 16375182
>>16375179
They made a transformer toy of this design recently, it turns into Optimus Prime because of course it does.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:01:35 UTC No. 16375183
>no doubt this retard autismo shill is reporting all my posts ITT as we speak just like he did the last thread
I hate retreatist demoralization doom posters who encourage bootlicking and sycophantic whoring more than you can possibly imagine.
Dude, just play ball with the murdering corpofascist bloodsucking leeches who will dominate Mars too if you let them.
lmfao
okay then
they will never let you accomplish the mission because it endangers their total hegemony over human affairs
full stop
get that through your head
You have to bypass or usurp them, and even if you manage it they could still attempt a shootdown or several.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:02:48 UTC No. 16375184
>>16375179
I think it's cute, looks fairly practical too.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:06:07 UTC No. 16375186
>>16375181
Whatever dude, why don’t you try dreaming a little. You’re committed to the idea of a lunar colony and a martian colony–but trying to scale back a little bureaucracy is too far-fetched for you? Good heavens! That would be like trying to climb K2! Heaven forbid we try to make our system a little better let’s just wallow in the filth instead!
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:09:01 UTC No. 16375188
>>16375186
All we need to is play nice and they'll let us have Mars
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:10:18 UTC No. 16375189
>>16375183
If Musk had "played nice" SpaceX never would be the juggernaut it is today.
Anon is an old-world, last-century EARTHER.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:12:35 UTC No. 16375192
>>16375188
I’m convinced that gets you wins in the short run but not in the long run. Playing the centrist has only been detrimental, if you’ve been paying attention since 2010. Too many unironic slippery slopes. Too many people hungry for power and foaming at the mouth for people to take inaction so they can do what they want. Playing fence sitter doesn’t get you mars, it gets you grounded because they don’t want you going
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:13:10 UTC No. 16375193
>>16375183
>play nice
>WAIT I MEANT DONT PLAY NICE
>"EARTHER"
such is the way of the LARP faa shill
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:14:49 UTC No. 16375196
>>16375188
Why would they do that?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:16:01 UTC No. 16375197
>>16375188
gayest post in this thread
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:16:04 UTC No. 16375198
>just pull your space program up by your bootstraps, look the government straight in the eye and give it a firm handshake. THAT'S how you get ahead in life, son!
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:18:09 UTC No. 16375200
>>16375170
>moon or Mars "explorers"
I hate to break it to you, it would be cheaper to build a rover on Mars and operate it remotely from Earth than build it out for life support.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:19:41 UTC No. 16375203
>>16375200
retarded or bait, call it.
A human could do all of the combined science of lunar and martian rovers since the beginning of the space race in one work week unironically
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:20:21 UTC No. 16375204
This is what happens when you invite /pol/. Deranged pseudo revolutionary talk with no bearing on reality. This is not what these threads are for.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:22:04 UTC No. 16375205
>>16375188
>>16375186
>>16375193
you do realize its entirely obvious when you samefag right?
>>16375204
yup. you can thank that /bant/ tourist too this has been the fallout of him making that thread when we told him to fuck off.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:24:04 UTC No. 16375207
>muh /pol/
you're an embarrassment
they aren't sending their best
>don't think of solutions
>put your head in the sand and IMAGINE mars
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:24:58 UTC No. 16375208
>>16375204
The government is directly stopping spaceflight development for entirely political reasons. What do you expect?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:26:59 UTC No. 16375211
>>16375208
The point of the conversation was that Elon specifically is playing the game wrong. The solution proposed by this >>16375207 delusional nigger was to kill everyone. This is not a constructive conversation
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:27:40 UTC No. 16375213
>>16375208
This, and some of us warned /sfg/ it would do this back in 2021. They called us crazy.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:34:21 UTC No. 16375217
>>16375192
>slippery slopes
This is a fallacy
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:34:42 UTC No. 16375218
>>16375211
cool retard strawman, shill
there are multiple people posting ITT even if you're not one of them
SpaceX needs international infrastructure before operations are secure
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:35:29 UTC No. 16375219
>>16375217
Lolno
Get back in your time machine anon, 2004 is calling you.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:35:29 UTC No. 16375220
>>16375208
Just shut up and talk about space ok
Shut up shut up shut up
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:40:43 UTC No. 16375226
space is fake and gay
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:40:55 UTC No. 16375227
Nuke california
Nuke FAA HQ
Commies and bureaucrats needs to be nuked to save Earth and Mars.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:43:00 UTC No. 16375232
>>16374612
I prefer "lunar apogee"
>Uhm sir actually "gee" means "earth"
I don't give a fuck
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:43:08 UTC No. 16375233
>>16375226
polaris dawn first private mission to break the firmament
(the firmament is 1200km up)
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:43:33 UTC No. 16375234
>>16375227
IN REAL LIFE
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:44:21 UTC No. 16375236
>>16375205
Guess again dipshit
I'm none of those people
In fact this is my first post itt
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:49:27 UTC No. 16375242
>>16375240
You have actual autism, the annoying adhd kind. The kind where people can tell when you haven’t taken your medicine.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:49:59 UTC No. 16375243
>>16375241
looks pretty flat to me, idk
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:50:05 UTC No. 16375244
>>16375242
I'm not that anon dumbass
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:50:42 UTC No. 16375245
The top of your head is flat, numbskull
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:56:16 UTC No. 16375251
Anyone who posts CGI fake space images in this general should be permarangebanned.
That is propaganda and you know it too.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:59:12 UTC No. 16375253
>>16375241
Dumb question but who first figured out the aether was bullshit and that it was a vacuum that permeated the universe?
By the time the V2 made it up this far, really the only high altitude craft of any kind was bombers and balloons that still were pretty rudimentary. Low altitude; that is. I guess you could make the inference that air becomes thinner so it must be a gradient into nothing. It’s just strange to envision a world where scientist knew planets were spheres held together by gravity, they had just never measured that vacuum directly or even gotten something to orbit like the math said you could do. The v2 was the first sounding rocket that could confirm these inferences
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:02:06 UTC No. 16375256
>>16375242
>join shit flinging political thread
>post mattress like every day
>subjected to extraordinarily accurate dismantling of my character
Unexpected. I'll be back tomorrow
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:02:51 UTC No. 16375257
>>16375253
einstein? fairly sure by ww2 scientists already knew it's mostly empty up there. didn't need v2 to verify anything.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:03:47 UTC No. 16375262
>>16375241
The V2 rocket was basically a miracle. Could any one have done it other than von Braun? Could von Braun even have done it without divine providence?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:04:22 UTC No. 16375263
>>16375200
it was my question and nobody asked if it would be "cheaper", retard
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:04:38 UTC No. 16375264
>>16375262
I could've but I'm built different
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:07:23 UTC No. 16375268
>>16375256
Now I feel guilty. I respect you, marschad
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:10:46 UTC No. 16375272
>>16375261
I think people get so used to seeing earth that they don’t appreciate just how unique and weird it is. Blue ball of lucious water, ice caps, swirling clouds and and storms and lightning, volcanoes, and green continents. Green… how weird and peculiar. Because the chemicals there became self replicating and a ton of it just uses the local starlight as an energy source. There probably isn’t another planet like it, maybe at all - for all we know.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:10:52 UTC No. 16375273
>>16375253
Pascal in the 17th century supposedly extrapolated the Kármán line after fucking around with barometers at different altitudes.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:12:12 UTC No. 16375276
>>16375274
I think it's the dragon cameras that are shitty, not the signal
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:12:56 UTC No. 16375279
>>16375274
Could be rad interference causing noise
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:13:01 UTC No. 16375280
>>16375275
Because space-tomboys are peak
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:13:57 UTC No. 16375281
>>16375247
>FCC: Starlink is fake and shouldnt get funding
>FCC: Also, a month later, Starlink is a monopoly and needs to be stopped
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:15:33 UTC No. 16375284
>>16375262
Tsiolkovsky was just one generation too early. Goddard, of course. I don’t know about glushko and korolev had they not gotten their share of post-war germans. Oberth is probably the most important “not von braun”
But yeah it was divine providence. Lots of right place, right time, pure luck etc. But no doubt von Braun was an etcher of history through hard work to get what he wanted
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:15:34 UTC No. 16375285
>>16375261
What makes photos of Pluto more orange than others planets? Just the distance from Sol?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:18:08 UTC No. 16375288
>>16375285
More organics, I believe. From its tenuous atmosphere with methane and such. Breaks down, similar to why Titan is orange.
I think the idea goes: it’s bigger than most other gray moons so it holds an atmosphere that can undergo geochemical reactions, thus it’s a different color
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:19:48 UTC No. 16375290
>>16375272
>There probably isn’t another planet like it, maybe at all
I bet you a dollar there's more than one.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:21:37 UTC No. 16375293
>>16375285
Tholins
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:25:48 UTC No. 16375295
>>16375272
There aren’t green planets, there are purple ones though
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:30:01 UTC No. 16375298
>>16375279
also known as the spicy space
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:30:55 UTC No. 16375299
>>16375261
One of those does not belong in the chart.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:31:36 UTC No. 16375300
>>16375299
checked.
remove e*rth
TED
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:31:52 UTC No. 16375301
>>16375298
>dead pixels centered around the ostensibly radioactive object instead of filling the image uniformly, as though the radiation is lensed by the glass optics
common mistake
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:33:25 UTC No. 16375302
>>16375299
gotchu homie
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:36:16 UTC No. 16375306
>>16375261
why does Earth have a transparent atmosphere (save for clouds) but Venus, of similar size and composition, basically has an opaque shitty global weather pattern 24/7 that blocks the surface from visible wavelength view?
Overcast: the planet
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:38:21 UTC No. 16375307
>>16375261
>venus has its atmosphere
>mercury is gray
>neptune is light blue-ish, instead of dark blue
>pluto is orange instead of dark red (remember that false color pic)
kek, this was made by an autist like us, completely correct. I hate it when normies get the planets' colors wrong.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:40:18 UTC No. 16375308
>>16375306
Because we evolved to see through the Earth's atmosphere? Lol
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:44:22 UTC No. 16375310
>>16375306
>>16375308
wait I’m so dumb, its atmosphere is anything but similar to Earth’s. It’s late and I need sleep
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:45:26 UTC No. 16375311
>>16375310
don't sleep too long you'll miss the polaris space walk.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:46:57 UTC No. 16375312
>>16375288
>>16375293
Haha, i didn't know Pluto even had an atmosphere, though it makes sense it would be able to hold on heavier elements for a while. Thanks!
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:51:43 UTC No. 16375318
>>16375312
Pluto has a reusable atmosphere
>When Pluto is close to the Sun, its surface ices sublimate (changing directly from solid to gas) and rise to temporarily form a thin atmosphere. Pluto's low gravity (about 6% of Earth's) causes the atmosphere to be much more extended in altitude than our planet's atmosphere. Pluto becomes much colder during the part of each year when it is traveling far away from the Sun. During this time, the bulk of the planet's atmosphere may freeze and fall as snow to the surface.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:56:39 UTC No. 16375319
>>16375318
also, say goodbye to the chance of seeing pluto's atmosphere with your own eyes in your lifetime
>New Horizons made it just in time [...] When winter comes in 2030 — remember that one Pluto year is about 248 Earth years — new research suggests that Pluto's thin, Nitrogen-heavy atmosphere will completely collapse, condensing and freezing into a layer of solid frost, according to CNN. It's an epic cosmic event, involving temperatures of nearly 400 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:59:25 UTC No. 16375322
>>16375319
Better colonize it now for a century of Christmas weather!
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:04:12 UTC No. 16375326
>>16375319
>an entire atmosphere collapsing
this is a pretty fucking metal concept
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:05:46 UTC No. 16375327
>>16375319
Billions of dollars to ukr and mossad, zero for a project orion clipper to visit Sedna and Eris
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:08:35 UTC No. 16375329
>>16375327
>muh joos muh ukroid
shut up bro go back to /pol/ if you had said artemis and sls it wouldve been fine
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:09:29 UTC No. 16375330
>>16375329
gonna cry? I was just pointing out we spend money on dumb things I’m not a boogie man from the continent board. You’re seeing ghosts
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:14:27 UTC No. 16375333
>>16375330
no youre just such a sperg that you cant help but put joos and ukraine in everything you think of. you immigrants make it obvious every time you show up here. get a clue, the rest of the website hates you idiots and theres a reason its called a containment board. curb your habits and lurk moar or go back, conform or leave.
>inb4 /pol/ isnt bad
cutting that off from you now.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:18:29 UTC No. 16375336
Jesus fucking christ, what is this, a feddy get-together?
Anyways who is to blame for us not launching like we fucking should?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:19:01 UTC No. 16375337
> Sharing your private space capsule with two wild haired space cuties, while they have to strip in and out of spacesuits in front of you.
Whatever he spent was totally worth it.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:22:32 UTC No. 16375340
>>16375247
Enough Republicans voted to confirm them. Stop whining.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:23:54 UTC No. 16375342
>>16375336
>anyone who calls me out for being a mn immigrant is a fed
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:23:59 UTC No. 16375343
>>16375337
it's not well publicized but polaris dawn will also be testing the viability of human conception in microgavity.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:24:28 UTC No. 16375344
>>16375336
The managerial state doesn't like feeling like they're the most important thing in the universe. When someone else achieves something they feel bitter and miserable and they only way they have to cope with that is to try and destroy that thing. They've proven they deserve death.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:25:20 UTC No. 16375345
>>16375247
>politics on the science and math board is good actually
fuck off.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:27:29 UTC No. 16375346
>>16375253
It was understood by the time of Newton that there was no air up there. Aether persisted for years as a kind of Dark Matter that had no physical properties other than as a medium for light.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:29:01 UTC No. 16375347
>>16375261
Fix'd
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:30:46 UTC No. 16375349
>>16375347
>cuts out pluto
>leaves ceres
retard
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:31:08 UTC No. 16375350
>>16375347
Why is Urf still there and why is it red
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:31:36 UTC No. 16375351
>>16375349
Ceres is by far the largest member of the Asteroid Belt. Pluto is just another KBO, completely unremarkable.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:32:37 UTC No. 16375354
>>16375044
FAA next
Remember to go out and vote
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:32:37 UTC No. 16375355
>>16375336
>Anyways who is to blame for us not launching like we fucking should?
Elon for being a chud
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:32:48 UTC No. 16375356
>>16375351
I have a larger member around my asteroid belt if you know what Im sayin
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:33:26 UTC No. 16375357
>>16375356
I'm not sure I understand could you explain?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:33:38 UTC No. 16375358
>>16375354
But whom for? I was leaning Trump but I've heard that he was unhinged in the debate so iono anymore
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:34:40 UTC No. 16375360
>>16375356
Sir that is a medical emergency
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:36:15 UTC No. 16375362
>>16375354
You have made this general awful. I know its you Trump OP, it always has been. You never could answer what the rocket equation was.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:39:16 UTC No. 16375365
>>16375357
My benis big
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:41:52 UTC No. 16375369
>>16375358
fully comped since late 2017
still, space force is on the books now
let's see if that changes
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:42:05 UTC No. 16375371
2025 cant come soon enough bros. I want to get back to arguing about solar vs nuclear, well vs spin, clouds vs tubes, allathat. The last thread was so reminiscent of it, I miss those days.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:42:11 UTC No. 16375372
New records:
19 people in space
4 people exposed to space
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:44:30 UTC No. 16375375
>>16375372
Dragon has not openned yet dork.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:46:57 UTC No. 16375380
>>16375371
>solar vs nuclear
I mean we all know the answer to this one
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:47:28 UTC No. 16375381
>>16375107
You need earth to stay functional until the colony is self sustainable, this should be obvious
Either you have cognitive dissonance about the politics involved or you are retarded, trying very hard to make it seem like you dont really care about musks politics but still whone about the most inconsequential fucking things
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:47:57 UTC No. 16375383
>>16375371
>well vs spin
The correct choice here is apparent to anyone not afflicted with down syndrome
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:48:58 UTC No. 16375384
>>16375371
>clouds vs tubes
hmmm.... neither >>16375240
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:49:12 UTC No. 16375386
>>16375350
>why is it red
Ausfailia
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:50:01 UTC No. 16375388
>>16375383
spinning in a well. it's so obvious
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:53:00 UTC No. 16375391
>>16375115
Retard, you just need to keep things functional enough for 20-30 years minimum until self sustainability and keep the politics so that you arent prevented from going
Obviously Musk thinks that just being passive and compliant would not work i.e. the woke mind virus turning USA communist and SpaceX getting nationalized for instance would prevent the colony plans as one example but of course there are other blocking situations
Avoiding the situation might simply not work, this is trying to deal with the problem head on
Its not about fixing earth, ots about keeping it functional for the time being
Demographic trends might not be fixable, the political situation might be able to be kept in a semi-stable state for the required time however
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:53:59 UTC No. 16375392
No dragon stream or are they only turning it on when they do the spacewalk?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:55:19 UTC No. 16375393
>>16375392
2 AM EST so 30 minutes out I believe.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 02:59:59 UTC No. 16375395
>>16375148
I fucking knew you imgae seething faggot were an EDS faggot
So that is the reason you dont want CSS and the like posted and mocked, it mocks your beliefs too
Fucking unbelievable
Absolute fucking faggot
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:00:50 UTC No. 16375396
>>16375388
I actually have something for this
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:01:01 UTC No. 16375397
>>16375158
Fuck off tranny
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:01:52 UTC No. 16375398
>>16375384
Based. You should make a diagram of how this would work for a full colonial settlement. I wanna see where the solar panels and gates outside go on this thang.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:04:58 UTC No. 16375399
>>16375188
>This is what EDS fags actually believe
SpaceX had to play uncomfortable right from the fucking start, have you forgotten the lawsuits to compete and congress hearings
Waiting like a cuck would mean spacex would be dead
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:07:51 UTC No. 16375403
>>16375211
No, the propsed solution is to change the bureucracy just like Musk is trying to do
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:10:18 UTC No. 16375404
>>16375248
Thats banned now bro, the EDS fag said so
Cant be spamming the thread and using up that precious image limit
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:10:52 UTC No. 16375405
>>16375403
>spastic tweets will surely 'change' the bureaucracy
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:11:54 UTC No. 16375406
>>16375404
I was not the fag who said stop the links and images. I said >>16374178
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:12:05 UTC No. 16375407
Here's some size comparisons. This spin city has a radius of 240 meters so you have 1g and basically no one is dizzy. Each sawtooth in the cutout is a block roughly 80 meters across, each with a step of 14 meters to the next one. It's 2km tall but height is arbitrary.
>>16375398
All infrastructure would probably be underground. You'd need ring trains that match speed and dock. Realistically you'd have two structures, the city and some sort of housing around it. They couldn't be touching so maybe some magnets I don't know
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:14:43 UTC No. 16375408
>>16375355
Elong being the way he is (not giving up even with massive pressure) is the reason spacex is where it is
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:15:04 UTC No. 16375409
>>16375342
not that kinda fed you gravity-cuck
>>16375344
When we establish orbital colonies, much less Lunar and Martian populations, we must rid ourselves of managerial busymen who profit off of inaction and delay.
>>16375355
Are we to cater to the demands of those who wish to see us suffer? Are we to give in to the whims of those who would rather see our enemies succeed and ourselves fail?
We got to the fucking moon without half the advanced shit we have today. All we have is busybodies and suits to blame for our inability to prosper, and we oughta cast them off.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:16:30 UTC No. 16375411
>>16375402
I swear the day something happens to musk this general will unironically be in suicide watch lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:16:48 UTC No. 16375412
>>16375405
unscrupulous motherfucker
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:16:53 UTC No. 16375413
>>16375362
Its not the trump OP, I'm actually the OP right now
But you really, really have to be a retard to not see a clear difference with the choices this election season
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:16:56 UTC No. 16375414
>>16375407
So wait this rotor city is on a planet or floating out in space? The angled water at the bottom is telling me that its in a well. Im assuming the slopes are to counteract the gravity? What is the angular speed that it goes at and how much power would it suck up? What is the centripetal force on them then in Gs?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:17:25 UTC No. 16375415
>>16375402
what did he do this time?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:17:54 UTC No. 16375416
>>16375358
Who do you think?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:18:08 UTC No. 16375417
>>16375414
>how much power would it suck up
0 once it's spun up if you have it on good bearings
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:18:42 UTC No. 16375419
>>16375415
Pravda said he was a bad man
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:19:32 UTC No. 16375421
>>16375415
He made fun of Taylor Swift
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:20:43 UTC No. 16375422
>>16375413
Did I ever say I wasnt voting red? The choice is obvious for anyone who browses this website, we dont need shilling day in day out on this. It just makes discussion quality so much fucking worse on boards that dont want politics on them like say the math and science board.
>>16375417
How often would the bearings on that go bad though? Seems like a really good idea for a city on smaller astronomical bodies though, spinning in well is actually cool and makes sense! Youre a good spinfag, please post more ideas and concepts you find you seem like a very logical person.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:20:49 UTC No. 16375423
>>16375369
Space Force patriots are in control
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:20:56 UTC No. 16375424
>>16375405
He is doing quite a bit more than that and you know it
Bending to the commubists is bot a long term viable strategy
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:21:59 UTC No. 16375427
>>16375406
I was joking
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:22:32 UTC No. 16375428
>>16375424
Not starting this argument up again you can read the other 200 posts if you want more responses. Seethe at those but do it privately so we can continue discussing rotor cities and Dawn
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:24:33 UTC No. 16375429
>>16375415
He said he was going to impregnate Taylor Swift.
>>16375392
NSF will go live in 1 hour and 50 minutes approx, we'll see.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:28:34 UTC No. 16375431
>>16375429
what's wrong with that? shit i'd do it too
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:29:43 UTC No. 16375432
Here's a visual of how water would behave in this setup. This is all made using the real numbers by the way. The steps on the edge are roughly 11 degrees, and because centrifugal gravity is lower the further in you go, the steeper it gets. Water forms this bizarre pit. Fishing on the edge and looking out would be terrifying.
>>16375398
>solar panels
Forgot to mention something interesting, if this is built in the south pole and you use a giant mirror to illuminate the light tube, then you may have ports in the spin city. Large heavy freight is best brought to the center where you're fighting moon gravity only, but if sunlight is coming in through the roof you need to use the bottom. You're still in a well, so your water will be at the bottom. Ports on the moon
>>16375414
Sorry yeah, the moon. Unlike living on Mars with the long trip, living on the moon may end up meaning living on Earth. People today take regular trips between New York and Shanghai, but imagine if doing so meant constantly passing out and bone fractures. This is a solution.
>What is the angular speed that it goes at and how much power would it suck up?
104mph and I don't know
>What is the centripetal force on them then in Gs?
Exactly 1, it makes like 0.98G which, added to the moon gravity (hypotenuse of course), gets you 1
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:30:21 UTC No. 16375434
>>16375355
>>16375409
>Are we to cater to the demands of those who wish to see us suffer?
Look let's just play it safe and we'll be allowed to do cool space stuff
There's no point rocking the boat
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:32:52 UTC No. 16375436
>>16375434
but thats wrong, Musk already had to fucking rock the boat to get DoD and NASA contracts in the first place
FAA has to change for the required cadences to happen
you can't comply yourself out of that
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:33:50 UTC No. 16375437
>>16375433
Sir... this is Popeyes...
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:36:26 UTC No. 16375439
>>16375438
https://www.politico.com/story/2015
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:37:28 UTC No. 16375440
>>16375439
https://www.latimes.com/business/la
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:38:28 UTC No. 16375442
>>16375437
can I apply for an image posting license here?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:39:30 UTC No. 16375443
>>16375432
For the park (the green and blue rectangle here >>16375396), you could have artificial rocks and keep the same flat steps as the rest of the city, but some could be left "flat" and have a normal slope. Here's a visual. There are worse hills in San Francisco so it isn't so bad. This is technically the sheer side of the city with respect to lunar gravity so if it slowed down you'd just fall off.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:46:28 UTC No. 16375446
>>16375433
>>16375437
>>16375442
stupid frogposter
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:46:53 UTC No. 16375447
>>16375443
Planetary spinqueers are the lowest of the low
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:46:59 UTC No. 16375448
>>16375443
This is how clouds would form. There's quite a few eccentricities like this resulting from the angle of gravity changing depending on the distance from the center, instead of just the force like in a normal O'Neil cylinder. The curving buildings is another example, like the scale empire state building here >>16375407. Forgot to mention, the lines 2/3rds of the way up the struts represent where Mars gravity would be. It's closer to 25 degrees. Not sure how feasible all this is, I just thought it would be interesting to explore
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:48:01 UTC No. 16375449
>>16375447
It was prompted >>16375388
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:51:22 UTC No. 16375450
damn the audio sucks ass on the polaris videos, shit tier video too
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:00:35 UTC No. 16375453
>>16375448
conical spinning habitats like this were featured in some scifi book I read, but forgot what the name was
I think it was like part 2 of a series (and I haven't read the first one), but there was this weird alternate earth timeline thing going on as well with a timeline where Rome never fell in one and then another where Aztecs were never conquered and constructed O'neill cylinders, but then living "natively" i.e. with like 15th century tech in the O'neill cylinder
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:04:28 UTC No. 16375454
>>16375448
Very cool. If we never figure out how to counteract low gravity effects on humans this would be a good concept to look further in to when colonizing extreme low gravity bodies. If you have any other ideas/diagrams/OC let us know in the future.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:11:04 UTC No. 16375456
>>16375450
They're in vacuum dipshit, I'm surprised we can hear anything.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:12:19 UTC No. 16375459
>>16375456
they are not
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:12:39 UTC No. 16375460
>>16375453
yeah all the examples I could find were conical/parabolic instead of stepped with relatively consistent gravity. Stepped seems more realistic. A trip to the 7 eleven should not cause you to pass out or bump your head on the ceiling. Pic is one I found from a Japanese guy. There are several reasons it is insane
>>16375454
I'm glad you like it. I've never done anything else like it so I have nothing else to post. I've strongly considered handing these images to a 3d artist or concept artist to see what they can do. Seems like a reasonable option in the case where low G heath isn't solved another way so I'm surprised there's basically nothing out there about it
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:15:53 UTC No. 16375462
https://archive.is/2UbGG
https://www.washingtonpost.com/scie
>Augustine said he is concerned that NASA could lose in-house expertise if it relies too heavily on the private industry for newly emerging technologies.
>“It will have trouble hiring innovative, creative engineers. Innovative, creative engineers don’t want to have a job that consists of overseeing other people’s work,” he said.
>But a truism in the industry is that space is hard. The new report contends that NASA has a mismatch between its ambitions and its budget, and needs to pay attention to fundamentals such as fixing its aging infrastructure and retaining in-house talent.
more money for dem programs, thats going to fix it
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:16:31 UTC No. 16375464
>>16375460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao-
found the source. due to the language barrier I can't tell if he's an architect or a schizo
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:16:54 UTC No. 16375465
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:18:24 UTC No. 16375467
>>16375462
>sweeping report by aerospace experts
were they reading these threads
>>16375465
would get you 0.5 more SLS launches per year and get MSR 10% closer (2045)
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:29:16 UTC No. 16375472
>>16375337
that looks fun for maybe 5 minutes before you realize you need to whip out the scrunchie
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:31:24 UTC No. 16375474
>>16374566
When you aim at the queen you best not miss
Taylor swift IS america
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:37:08 UTC No. 16375480
>>16374574
What's the issue? It's a fair offer.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:37:41 UTC No. 16375481
>>16375476
whats funny here is that "giving more money to NASA" is actually just a roundabout way to give more money to the numerous contractors, I don't think most people understand that
NASA has shown itself to be an incompetent manager of rocket projects lately, the problem is not the money but the management
perhaps it would be less bad with less congress meddling but I'm not sure it would actually be appreciably different
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:38:27 UTC No. 16375482
>>16375465
FBC hasn't been practised since the 90s
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:38:35 UTC No. 16375483
>>16375481
can't we just cut out the middle man and increase JPL's budget?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:39:29 UTC No. 16375485
>>16375476
>no link to article or study
Fake and gay
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:40:49 UTC No. 16375486
How're we gonna mine the moon and mars and shit? Will we have to find some bullshit "astronaut" with a hobby in metallurgy if we want to get some space metals?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:42:42 UTC No. 16375488
>>16375483
JPL doesn't care about science either, just job security
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:42:47 UTC No. 16375489
>>16375465
The astounding depth of ignorance. I hate earthers so much its unreal.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:45:09 UTC No. 16375491
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:48:42 UTC No. 16375493
>>16375486
If you didnt take the tone of a condescending prick I wouldve told you.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:49:14 UTC No. 16375495
>>16375485
If only there was an online tool that you could use with the information provided to find the site yourself:
https://behindtheblack.com/behind-t
But, that would require you not being retarded.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:53:04 UTC No. 16375497
>>16375488
Jobs Program Laboratory
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:53:32 UTC No. 16375498
30min until stream should start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daE
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:53:56 UTC No. 16375499
>>16375495
>behind the blacked
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:56:12 UTC No. 16375503
>>16375498
20 minutes. Please learn how addition works
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:56:51 UTC No. 16375505
the initial plan was a free floating walk, right? what happened?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:58:00 UTC No. 16375508
>>16375503
20 min for these unofficial streams
the spacewalk is in 1h 26 minutes, the official stream starts 1h before that
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:59:21 UTC No. 16375510
>>16375505
I don't think that has been confirmed ever
however they didn't feel the need to correct that misconception
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:01:28 UTC No. 16375512
what are the odds of things going terribly wrong? I had a dream yesterday about astronauts dying in a SpaceX spacecraft.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:02:15 UTC No. 16375513
>>16375512
50/50. It happens or it doesnt.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:02:17 UTC No. 16375514
>>16375512
actually kinda high
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:03:14 UTC No. 16375516
>>16375493
Well I wouldn't be such a prick if we didn't basically just receive news that we're gonna regulate ourselves to one planet.
Hope someone else also steps up and makes space moneys
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:04:29 UTC No. 16375517
>>16374094
so the general consensus seems to be (over 75% yes), anything but ragebait or literal whos from twitter
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:06:08 UTC No. 16375519
>>16375510
well it was in the original renders when the mission was announced
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:06:19 UTC No. 16375520
>>16375512
low, unlike Boeing SpaceX actually tests their systems thoroughly (either with destructive hardware rich testing when its uncrewed vehicles, or in other ways when its crewed)
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:06:26 UTC No. 16375521
>>16375514
why is it so dangerous? Isn't spacewalk a solved problem? Haven't SpaceX tested those systems beforehand?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:07:20 UTC No. 16375522
>>16375519
oh yeah true
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:14:18 UTC No. 16375526
>>16374665
doubtful
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:14:24 UTC No. 16375527
When spacewalk?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:14:52 UTC No. 16375528
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1834089
oh and I guess spacex is launching again.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:16:40 UTC No. 16375530
>>16375528
Did I ask?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:19:45 UTC No. 16375532
>>16375528
dude spoiler that shit
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:19:58 UTC No. 16375533
>>16375512
the biggest risk factors i can think of are mmod impact and problems with umbilical. i don't know how quickly they can repressurize dragon if the eva suit is breached or malfunction midway through the walk.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:19:59 UTC No. 16375534
Elon Musk is a disgusting loser
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:20:14 UTC No. 16375535
>>16375530
I don't fucking care if you asked I posted it and I'll post again next time
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:24:30 UTC No. 16375537
>>16375535
Official stream has spazz music up.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:25:22 UTC No. 16375538
>>16375534
if I were Elon Musk I would secretly put myself in the next Starship launch
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:27:30 UTC No. 16375542
>>16375537
shut up retard
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:28:07 UTC No. 16375543
>>16375533
>are mmod impact
what is this?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:28:47 UTC No. 16375544
>>16375543
it's when mmod impact them
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:29:14 UTC No. 16375545
>>16375543
micrometeorite orbital debris
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:30:16 UTC No. 16375546
>>16375545
how fast can those things get?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:32:01 UTC No. 16375549
>>16375546
7+ km/s
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:32:31 UTC No. 16375550
How long till they mention the space doritos? Before or after the walk?
If they save an unopened can people will want to get their hands on it.
>>16375512
Medical officer will be on standby.
Worst thing that could happen is a Skywalker malfunction.
Or some kind of random electrical fire.
RIP Vader
>WHAT
You will be missed.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:32:35 UTC No. 16375551
>EVA scrubbed
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:32:37 UTC No. 16375552
when will we get the first midget black women spacewalk? I'm tired of no diversity in space.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:32:56 UTC No. 16375554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_v
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:33:57 UTC No. 16375555
Did they push it back a few hours?
SpaceX's stream shows 4:50AM for a start time now.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:33:59 UTC No. 16375556
>>16375554
Lol did I ask you to post this?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:35:24 UTC No. 16375558
> 5:58 a.m. ET.
> ET
aliens confirmed
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:35:41 UTC No. 16375560
>The EVA is targeted to start at 5:58 a.m. ET
goodnight everyone, fuck
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:35:53 UTC No. 16375561
>>16375554
lmao the 2nd video showed a sabot segment hitting the target. TAMU's gun lab is not that great
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:37:40 UTC No. 16375564
>>16375562
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mis
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:37:54 UTC No. 16375566
Wow, SpaceX is finally doing what NASA did with Gemini almost 60 years ago lol
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:38:46 UTC No. 16375567
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:39:29 UTC No. 16375569
>>16375333
>you immigrants
kek, you wish
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:39:37 UTC No. 16375570
>>16375560
> EVA
> ET
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:39:57 UTC No. 16375571
I wonder what Rook will do for the next flights. could dragon fling around the moon? Not sure what other exciting things dragon could do in LEO besides more walks.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:41:57 UTC No. 16375573
>>16375566
yeah, but with a compact spacecraft that can fit up to 7 people and a way more sleek space suit. Oh, everything is reusable btw
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:43:09 UTC No. 16375574
>>16375571
>could dragon fling around the moon?
I don't think Falcon 9 is capable of that. Falcon Heavy could do that though.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:43:40 UTC No. 16375575
>>16375566
It's not like NASA is doing anything similar atm.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:46:02 UTC No. 16375576
>>16375574
>>16375571
The question is—can Isaacman singlehandedly fund a private recreation of the Apollo program?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:48:26 UTC No. 16375578
>>16375571
polaris III is going to be a crewed launch on starship. So polaris II could be a starship HLS clone stationed in LEO, then crewed via dragon launch + dock, for life support checkouts or an apollo 8 style slingshot
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:48:35 UTC No. 16375579
>>16375571
robotic arm on the dragon in tandem with a real spacewalk
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:49:11 UTC No. 16375580
>>16375576
of course, the moon is not that hard, we already have the following hardware:
> Falcon Heavy
> Dragon
we would only need some moon landing gear in a modified version of Dragon.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:49:14 UTC No. 16375581
Is this the first time 4 people expose to space at the same time?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:49:29 UTC No. 16375582
I'm still convinced they'll literally just put a crew dragon in the starship as a backup. It's only 13 tons.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:50:07 UTC No. 16375583
>>16375581
yes (maybe)
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:50:35 UTC No. 16375584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgN
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:51:08 UTC No. 16375585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIa
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:51:44 UTC No. 16375586
>>16375581
what happens if that woman gets some female hysteria during the space walk procedure, gets out of her restraints and jumps out of Dragon?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:52:57 UTC No. 16375587
sfg is 52% of /sci/ traffic. Are any other boards this lopsided to one general?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:53:48 UTC No. 16375588
>>16375580
Could the Super Dracos get them back up from the surface to a lunar orbit?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:54:54 UTC No. 16375589
>>16375587
KPG on /mu/
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:55:09 UTC No. 16375590
>>16375587
/mu/ with kpop general
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:55:56 UTC No. 16375591
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 05:56:05 UTC No. 16375592
>>16375586
we clap like seals
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:00:52 UTC No. 16375594
>>16375593
they hold it in for 5 days
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:01:17 UTC No. 16375595
>>16375507
Looks more like flamethrower than a proper rocket plume desu
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:05:08 UTC No. 16375597
>>16375483
JPL is one of the single worst agencies in NASA. They never do anything that'll threaten the gravy train of robots to Mars every five years if they can help it.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:07:46 UTC No. 16375598
>>16375596
dude on the left looks like a tard
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:14:26 UTC No. 16375601
>>16375598
I was going to make joke about being insentitive towards mongoloids but I think the pic is probably just a bit bad
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:20:28 UTC No. 16375604
Whats the chance of FCC/FTC trying to break Starlink from SpaceX since they now said its a monopoly? Also that it doesn't work, therefore it shouldn't get rural funding as well.
Isn't this a huge implication for Mars colonization plan?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:23:34 UTC No. 16375605
>>16375462
>Augustine bitching about sustainability in a contracting environment that his fucking name is on the report which created it
NASA turned into the National Park Service of space under his watch: underfunded, understaffed, and neglecting maintenance of its massive liabilities that represent some of the best ideas and achievements in US history. It exists to steer money into contractor pockets because Reagan thought the government doing anything by itself was communist propaganda. It doesn't help that everything they do personnel-wise is shackled to government pay scales and everything purchasing-wise has to be justified to an extent that even the most stingy company would consider wasteful
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:29:18 UTC No. 16375608
>>16375604
Starlink has now become more known in the normiesphere. It's now "Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink CEO Elon Musk"
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:29:43 UTC No. 16375610
>>16375604
I think it was more about giving funding to competitors, but who knows
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:32:57 UTC No. 16375613
Yeah Im going to bed. Someone make the new thread for me while Im out, I aint stayin up for this sheit, maybe make it that one anons rotary city or something with Dawn EVA idk. Night /sfg/
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:33:46 UTC No. 16375614
>>16375593
are they gonna cut the feed when one of them pops like a balloon
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:38:01 UTC No. 16375617
>>16375613
I'm going to make the next OP dedicated to Trump for you
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:38:35 UTC No. 16375618
>>16375604
Its illegal to connect the dots here and on reddit.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:38:36 UTC No. 16375619
>>16375614
will it be a pop like:
>Outland
>Total Recall
>Big Trouble in Little China
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:39:06 UTC No. 16375620
>>16375619
Scanners
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:41:06 UTC No. 16375622
>>16375621
Reddit trannies jannies dont want people to connect dots
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:41:34 UTC No. 16375623
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:43:21 UTC No. 16375625
>>16375623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Py
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:44:03 UTC No. 16375627
>>16375619
Live and Let Die
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:44:34 UTC No. 16375628
>>16375621
https://spacenews.com/congress-indu
There are even multiple articles on it, yet jannies want to ban discussion
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:46:37 UTC No. 16375632
>>16375619
>>16375620
>>16375627
nahhh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acz
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:49:31 UTC No. 16375633
>>16375632
jeez I copied a clip that didn't include the end part https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhb
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:50:05 UTC No. 16375634
>>16375586
life support tether yanks her back like a paddleball and we get to listen to her crying like a retard on stream while the rest of the crew makes her float in the retard corner
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:52:35 UTC No. 16375636
2h until stream start
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 06:57:40 UTC No. 16375638
this is the first new EVA suit design in 43 fucking years btw
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:08:58 UTC No. 16375652
https://x.com/AST_SpaceMobile/statu
ASTS space mobile is launching their first satellites which are going to offer commercial service
these are a direct competitor to Starlink direct to cell and at least in the short term should offer better service (not only texts and calls but data too for cellphones)
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:10:03 UTC No. 16375657
>>16374766
Dammit, I overslept.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:10:13 UTC No. 16375658
>>16375652
this is kind of a meme stock so a lot of retail investors are probably going to be watching
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:11:16 UTC No. 16375661
>>16375638
The Chinese are using old Soviet designs? lol
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:12:57 UTC No. 16375664
>>16375657
it got delayed by 3h
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:18:49 UTC No. 16375673
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:00:33 UTC No. 16375719
>>16374271
I also remember, and will never forgive
at least he's not that wojakposting dead kennedy faggot
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 10:33:29 UTC No. 16376133
>>16374776
I'd like to make friends with your machine.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:05:54 UTC No. 16377041
>>16374941
Meh, a civil war is likely sooner or later. Hopefully the right side wins. Maybe they'll emancipate white Americans this time.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:09:09 UTC No. 16377048
>>16374970
The military doesn't give orders to the government in the United States. It's still the Republicans and Democrats who decide between themselves what happens.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:10:53 UTC No. 16377052
>>16375014
>airship
gayest, dumbest post in this thread
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:47:55 UTC No. 16377132
>>16375042
>imagine thinking that earth can be fixed
I refer you to previous work by Messrs. Nobel, Maxim and Kaczynski
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:54:25 UTC No. 16377145
>>16375072
good post in a bad thread
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:58:36 UTC No. 16377154
>>16375096
>If SpaceX costs are really as low as anons have said, he could offer these services to less inordinately wealthy countries to set up their own satellite systems.
The costs are not really important. Flights are a limited resource at present and people will pay staggering amounts for them. Even if the costs were lower you'd have to decide who gets to ride. In a free market this is determined by who values it the most (as indicated by what they're willing to pay)
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:00:34 UTC No. 16377156
>>16375105
>extremely disinterested moreso than actively hostile
wrong and gay
please leave
don't come back
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:03:50 UTC No. 16377163
>>16375130
I long for a world where bureaucrats live in constant fear of citizens
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:18:08 UTC No. 16377181
>>16375423
Ground Nonviolence
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:10:04 UTC No. 16377401
That walk looked so fake...