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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16403764

Starhopper - edition

previous >>16401095

Anonymous No. 16403767

Hello wonderful person

Anonymous No. 16403768

>>16403767
Anton fell off. He used to be interesting when he would visit objects in space engine.

Anonymous No. 16403770

Hey hey

Anonymous No. 16403771

Ho ho

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starship based orbital laser platform

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Anonymous No. 16403774

look at those teeth

Anonymous No. 16403775

>>16403770
>>16403771
The FAA has got to go, hey hey

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Anonymous No. 16403780

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/engineers-investigate-another-malfunction-on-spacexs-falcon-9-rocket/
>A Falcon 9 rocket is scheduled to launch October 7 with the European Space Agency's Hera spacecraft to visit the binary asteroids Didymos and Dimorphos and investigate the system after the impact of NASA's DART spacecraft in 2022. DART tested an asteroid deflection technique that could move an object off a collision course with Earth.
>Three days later, on October 10, SpaceX is supposed to launch NASA's $5.2 billion Europa Clipper mission on a Falcon Heavy rocket to begin a six-year journey to Jupiter, where it will explore one of the giant planet's icy moons. The Falcon Heavy uses essentially the same upper stage design as the Falcon 9.
>Both of these missions will require two burns of the upper stage's Merlin vacuum engine to send the Hera and Europa Clipper spacecraft out into the Solar System. They also have limited launch windows to depart Earth and still reach their destinations. Hera's launch period runs from October 7 through October 27, and Europa Clipper's window extends from October 10 through November 6.

Europa clipper is supposed to launch in 10 days, but the launch window is almost a month long

Anonymous No. 16403783

>>16403780
falcon is going to fly again on wednesday.

Anonymous No. 16403787

>>16403753
One of the most emotionally powerful images taken in space.

Anonymous No. 16403794

>>16403774
live from the Vulcan rollout

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Anonymous No. 16403808

https://x.com/NASAOIG/status/1840771670165913662

what will they find?

Anonymous No. 16403811

>>16403780
I love using Europa Clipper as an example to show how SpaceX saved taxpayer money.

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Anonymous No. 16403813

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1840766670819999996

https://www.faa.gov/media/84326

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>>16403813

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Anonymous No. 16403816

>>16403814

Anonymous No. 16403817

>>16403813
>>16403814
Scott, I don't care about airplane mechanics, I want to see Starship enter the launch market. All these words mean nothing and are a distraction from the primary issue.

Anonymous No. 16403818

>>16403808
gave boeing too much money for not enough good reasons, limited pushback on boeing schedule delays and their root causes resulting in those delays getting worse, overall not delivering the redudant US access to space as intended

Anonymous No. 16403819

>>16403814
>>16403816
Doesn't the chevron ruling make this no longer legal?

Anonymous No. 16403821

>>16403819
Sort of, the Chevron ruling being OVERTURNED means that judges no longer have to listen to FAA chicanery.

Anonymous No. 16403822

>>16403808
probably similar problems as with the SLS i.e. incompetent people working there as technicians, bad communication between different parts of the organization (I think this was already shown previously, two different software teams got pissed at each other and didn't talk so there was no integration testing before the actual launch), ignoring clear problems (the difference compared to SpaceX here is no hardware rich development and testing, so the problems don't get solved until they absolutely have to which delays everything)

Anonymous No. 16403859

https://x.com/KurtisVanKampen/status/1840465059178594350

Anonymous No. 16403862

>>16403819
It depends on how the law is written. The FAA can no longer just show up in court and claim they are right because they are the FAA. For context, the case that overturned Chevron came about because a federal agency said fishing boats in new england had to have federal inspectors aboard to ensure they don't overfish. The courts had found this to be reasonable, but then the agency went further by saying not only did they have to have the inspectors aboard, the boat would also have to pay $800 a day for the inspector. This would have bankrupted them so they sued the agency for regulatory overreach and won.

Anonymous No. 16403867

>>16403819
It means the FAA decisions can be challenged and overturned in court.
You still need to actually challenge them.

Anonymous No. 16403887

>>16403862
>you're not allowed to fish
>you have to bring one of us on board if you want to
>also it'll cost you $800 a day
>pay up or no fishing for you! :)
Death to regulators

Anonymous No. 16403889

>>16403818
writing this I had forgotten all the issues that the flight tests had. Boeing are going to get torn to shreds and if NASA could've taken action to right the ship early on they'll get toasted too

Anonymous No. 16403893

https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1840775240667824339
>With S30 fully disconnected from SQD support, the work platform has been retracted. Definitely starting to look like a de-stack is imminent.
stack destack stack destack stack destack stack destack stack destack stack destack

Anonymous No. 16403907

>>16403893
I'm reading erics book and just got past the part where elon got pissed about destacking the falcon 9 mockup.
Reminds me of that.

Anonymous No. 16403910

>>16403780
>prior stage 2 issue was because a customer wanted an additional LOX sensor which got added and caused the issue
No part best part.
>terminal EDS dude in comments having a melty over an off nominal deorbit burn saying astronaut lives were at risk
They really do live in some sort of simulacrum.

Anonymous No. 16403914

>>16403910
why would a customer care about additional lox sensors?

Anonymous No. 16403926

>>16403811
The worst is when you talk to oldspace NASA and industry people (like on that Artemis discord) and they try to say launching on FH didn't save NASA a billion dollars because if you do accounting tricks and don't count various buckets of money SLS costs less on paper than it actually does.

These sort of prople will say saving hundreds of millions on launch costs is irrelevant if the payload costs billions.

Anonymous No. 16403933

Quality control issues cropping up on second stages of F9s rather than the boosters which can be landed and inspected after flight for defects is a great sign for upper stage reuse enjoyers

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Anonymous No. 16403941

>>16403933
it's like you forgot about this event which is barely a month old.

Anonymous No. 16403944

>>16403813
Maybe FAA should stop regulating and let the free market decide which planes deserve to fly

Anonymous No. 16403952

>>16403941
>booster landings are impossible
>if it tips over even once its a quality control issue even if it already flew a dozen times
ywnbaw

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Anonymous No. 16403956

>>16403941
>booster that has a rating for 10 flights exceeds its estimation by 130%
>this is a failure

Anonymous No. 16403957

>>16403952
you're retarded

Barkan No. 16403959

>>16403957
soon.jpg

GWG0X

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Anonymous No. 16403977

Anonymous No. 16403981

>>16403977
based (though fictional)

Anonymous No. 16403984

>>16403977
it's true I was the inhaler

Anonymous No. 16403985

https://x.com/dominickmatthew/status/1840320375311176047
>3.6MB
>'too large'
This board is fucked

Anonymous No. 16403986

>>16403822
>bad communication between different parts of the organization
We don't have the full picture on this yet but when we do we're going to see poor communication on a scale we couldn't previously imagine.

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Anonymous No. 16403992

>>16403977
>>16403981
based on a true story

Anonymous No. 16403996

>>16403814
>>16403816
Sorry Scott, safety comes first

Anonymous No. 16403997

>>16403887
Idk if you have noticed but ocean life populations are getting reamed by industrial fishing and their willful disobeying of catch laws. In my country they were required to install cameras on their boats in case accusations were brought forward. Guess what? Every single time fishing companies have been taken to court the cameras have been faulty. "Sorry sweetie the sea is a harsh environment, the cameras just failed :^)". Pick a different industry to defend against government niggers because every fucking fishing nigger should be wearing ankle monitor tier body cameras.

Anonymous No. 16404000

>>16403997
like most problems, this would be solved if we just mass executed the chinese

Anonymous No. 16404001

>>16403977
That kid grew up to be Buzz Aldrin

Anonymous No. 16404004

>>16404001
His name was Albert Einstein

Anonymous No. 16404005

>>16403977
then all the hyperboreans stood up and clapped

Anonymous No. 16404010

>>16403984
It's true, I was behind that mask.

Anonymous No. 16404013

https://x.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1840816188991189340?t=GhC5X1XIW-yMqDlB13m0cQ&s=19

Starlink being distributed with Trump's visit to hurricanes/flood victims.

Barkan No. 16404014

>>16404013
English, now

DRHTK2

Anonymous No. 16404015

>>16403977
>A natural history museum or museum of natural history is a scientific institution with natural history collections that include current and historical records of animals, plants, fungi, ecosystems, geology, paleontology, climatology, and more.

>Natural history is a domain of inquiry involving organisms, including animals, fungi, and plants, in their natural environment, leaning more towards observational than experimental methods of study.

>mask section
>astronaut section

Anonymous No. 16404019

>>16404013
Orange Man... good?

Anonymous No. 16404026

>>16404015
trust me bro, I witnessed it myself

Anonymous No. 16404032

>>16404013
Total silence from reddit

Anonymous No. 16404033

>>16404000
Chinese are the worst, but every country does it. Fishing companies are some of the most greedy fucks to ever grace the face of the earth. IDK how they even sell fish anymore looking at the prices now.

Anonymous No. 16404039

>>16403944
this. this is the principle that enabled african aviation to thrive. colonial era regulations kept them on the ground till the 1990s.

Anonymous No. 16404043

>>16404013
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1840820616125169747

Anonymous No. 16404057

>>16404032
Commies get the rope

Anonymous No. 16404059

>>16404033
overfishing is like voting in a so-called democracy
regardless of what you do as an individual, the eventual outcome is going to be determined by what a bunch of other assholes do, so your own actions are irrelevant to the outcome you get

the answer is to make people bid on the right to fish
it doesn't matter what you do with the money, but spending it on building fish populations sounds reasonable
you'd have to enforce compliance internationally in most cases, though, which makes the whole scheme impractical

Anonymous No. 16404064

>>16404059
Again: simply exterminating the Chinese solves 80% of the problem.

Anonymous No. 16404066

/sfg/ - Fishing Law General

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Anonymous No. 16404067

>>16404066
/sfg/ - safe fishing general

Anonymous No. 16404069

>>16404066
If you don't want fishing law in spaceflight threads, tell FWS to fuck off from interfering in stage disposal.

Anonymous No. 16404076

>>16404066
When discussing fishing laws is illegal only criminals will discuss fishing laws

Anonymous No. 16404097

>>16404039
it was an apartheid of planes

Anonymous No. 16404099

Roscosmos got a budget increase; 8% above inflation in 2025 and 12% for 2026, compared to the previous (largely flat) budget.
(17% and 30.6% respectively, with 9% planned inflation)
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/21998021

Note that this is the civilian, and not military budget.

Anonymous No. 16404104

>>16404076
Native tribes and indigenous are usually allowed to absolutely RAPE the animal/plant wildlife population, regardless of logic, laws, because common sense is thrown out the FUCKING WINDOW when it comes to "we were here first" attitudes, and thinking their "sacred right" to do stupid and harmful shit like cavemen is still fine, just because they remain low IQ, stupid, and unable to adapt for their ooga-booga ways of old, instead just live on government handouts and end up degenerating into the worst kind of drugs and nigger culture every fucking time. So it whale slaughters, denial of critical infrastructure, and general "but my forefathers were so wise" bullshit, its cringe to the point of hopelessness. Yet, most educated whites still stand up, clap and cheer for their bravery and wise ways.

Anonymous No. 16404108

airbreeding engine

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Anonymous No. 16404110

DOMES

Anonymous No. 16404114

>>16404110
hello investors! things are going GREAT over here at Rocket Lab!
Dont sell now? We remain a solild "hold" maybe even a "strong buy!" ;)

Anonymous No. 16404115

>>16404110
that's the hardest part of building a reusable rocket, taking a photo of guys standing next to domes

Anonymous No. 16404116

>>16404114
you sound mad

Anonymous No. 16404124

>>16404110
cute rocket
maybe they'll be able to launch more than 2 neutron a year by 2028

Anonymous No. 16404129

>>16404110
spacex stans BTFO by charming Peter

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Anonymous No. 16404134

It's funny to see how impolite Elon is, given that often agrees with Paul Graham.

Anonymous No. 16404137

>>16404134
he* often

Anonymous No. 16404139

>>16404134
Didn't Elon say there is a graveyard filled with the bodies of his enemies? The dude is fucking nuts.

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Anonymous No. 16404141

>>16404139

Anonymous No. 16404145

>>16404139
He meant, he delivered the GOODS when the powers that be, with the "experience" and funding, totally failed.
Its a competition, the whole point is to WIN.
Trust the plan.

Anonymous No. 16404153

>>16404145
am I having a stroke or did you just write some schizoid ramblings

Anonymous No. 16404155

>>16404134
For some reason he becomes more rude and arrogant over the years.

Anonymous No. 16404156

>>16404139
Everyone is living out their own unique state of psychosis in this meaningless existence

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Anonymous No. 16404160

>>16404134
he's kind of a dick but at least he makes good rockets.

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Anonymous No. 16404166

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1840836308966785256

~15 minutes of raptor firing. Insanity

Anonymous No. 16404168

>>16404139
metaphorical graveyard, for instance TSLAQ that got destroyed

Anonymous No. 16404170

>>16404168
Not just anti Tesla people, but also "tesla killer" people as well. Along with anti SpaceX people. ULA is literally dead now

Anonymous No. 16404172

>>16404166
Now relight it in vacuum :)

Anonymous No. 16404174

>>16404166
Wake me up when they do hours long burns.

Anonymous No. 16404175

>>16404170
>ULA is literally dead now
source?

Anonymous No. 16404179

>>16404175
that anon is wrong, ula will continue to launch 2 to 5 times a year for the next decade at least.

Anonymous No. 16404182

>>16404134
lol, he was in a bad mood. hope mr graham doesn't take it bad

Anonymous No. 16404185

>>16404182
mr graham does post some very retarded things every once in a while

Anonymous No. 16404191

>>16404110
>not one continuous piece
Enjoy your delamination

Anonymous No. 16404194

How many Shartlink satellites will be able to be deployed with a single Starship launch?

Anonymous No. 16404195

>>16404194
Not that many considering starlink v2 is much bigger

Anonymous No. 16404196

>>16404194
Each of Starlink mini weighs ~830 kg I think. So With LEO @ 200 T, thats 240 sats. But they might upgrade the v2 mini to real V2, which might be 2X heavier?. That would give them ~125 of them, if V2 large weighs ~1600 kg.

If its 150T, then V2 large = 93, V2 mini = 180

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Anonymous No. 16404198

>>16404166
We are so far behind in tech. In the 50s a nuclear engine was being tested . We could have been in route to Mars by the 80s

Anonymous No. 16404199

Im starting to consider Starlink as a really atractive option. I have a vacation house in the middle of nowhere surrounded by montains = no cell service of any kind.

150€ Hardware and then 40€/month . No that bad.

Anonymous No. 16404201

>>16404194
6 million

Anonymous No. 16404202

>>16404199
Fucking Europeans. Thats cheaper than my phone and phone data plan. And thats capped at 5GB lmao

Anonymous No. 16404203

>>16404194
iirc they'll start with 20-25 v2 (40-50 tons of payload), that's iirc the size limit in current by shape

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Anonymous No. 16404206

>>16404198
NTRs are old school. Chemical propulsion is the future

Anonymous No. 16404207

>>16404198
>We could have been in route to Mars by the 80s
yup, mars landing in 1981, permanent bases on the moon and the red planet in the early 90s. Biggest disappointment in history. Instead we got a generation of retards denying the apollo landings, calling space fake, and claiming we'll never get out of this gravity well in our lifetimes. von braun, korolev, glushko, chelomey, etc, all rolling in their graves :)

Anonymous No. 16404210

I'm curious as to how low they're willing to take the subscription price once they no longer need to worry about congestion.

Anonymous No. 16404211

>>16404206
It's objectively true that chemical is better.

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Anonymous No. 16404215

lol

Anonymous No. 16404216

you guys really think it's the FAA? spacex isnt ready!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16404217

>>16404199
If you don't have cell signal, Starlink is the obvious choice. All other satellite ISPs are more costly and less capable.

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Anonymous No. 16404223

>>16404215
not this shit AGAINNNNNN

Anonymous No. 16404225

>>16404215
just like the US constitution prohibits torture, forced confessions and unreasonable search and seizure, the Martian constitution will outlaw the FAA

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Anonymous No. 16404227

>>16404215
https://x.com/BCCarCounters/status/1840852077339177124

Anonymous No. 16404228

does requiring investigation mean f9 is grounded?

Anonymous No. 16404229

>>16404215
do you think they would have if spacex hadn't tweeted about it? is spacex required to report this stuff to them?

Anonymous No. 16404232

>>16404229
they do, if they hid it and they found out it would be another kind of shitstorm.

Anonymous No. 16404234

>>16404228
yes

Anonymous No. 16404237

>>16404215
>rocket doesn't do what it's supposed to (again)
>investigation is required
no shit
The Starship shit is a retarded timesink, but the F9 investigations are good practice.

Anonymous No. 16404244

What are delta/v costs like for transits to Jupiter? I know Juno and Galileo both did a bunch of gravity assists that made the missions take a lot longer than they otherwise would, but Pioneer 10 did a direct Hohmann transfer, didn't it?

Anonymous No. 16404245

>>16402416
fuck you faggot

Anonymous No. 16404251

>>16404215
that's fair

Anonymous No. 16404254

>>16404215
it's glover...

Anonymous No. 16404255

>>16404225
Why dont you go ahead and alter history forever?

Anonymous No. 16404258

one the one hand, fuck the FAA
one the other, 3 groundings in one year and they still launch more than everyone else combined.

Anonymous No. 16404260

>>16404258
I dont like this trend tho

Anonymous No. 16404262

>boing almost kills astronauts
>has major serious issues with their spacecraft
>FAA: *crickets*

>minor issue happens in spacex
>FAA: SHUT. IT. DOWN.

Anonymous No. 16404264

>>16404215
This one I can at least understand a little bit because there is a legitimate risk to public safety if it comes in somewhere it shouldn't. The investigation after the broken landing leg was absolutely stupid and a waste of time/money though

Anonymous No. 16404267

>>16403889
>Boeing are going to get torn to shreds
Probably not, but they fucking deserve to be torn a new asshole. Remember when they were under fire last time? Slap on the wrist and back to doing the same old same old.

Anonymous No. 16404276

its already too late? its humanity doomed ? Everything takes decades and decades. People's IQ dropping like rocks, hundreds of millions of people struggling to live by the day, with absolutely no time or energy to care about space colonization. One crazy person, one ill situation and thousand of nukes erasing all human progress for centuries.
Rampant greed, rampant anger, people scared 24/7 , everything is designed to be harmful , to be negative, to have an effect on you, people with no soul taking decisions, millions of oblivious people being told to look to other side.

What was once my hero, the misunderstood genius with a rough childhood, who "was always thinking about new ways to optimize the machine", who had a clear plan and was willing so sacrifice everything to reach that goal, the person who was a ray of hope and commitment in the increasingly bleak world , now it is transformed in what he used to hate. A shell of the past self.

Now, we walk into the unknown, only a few strings hold still the idea. The concept. The reason that we are here now in this site.

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Anonymous No. 16404277

>another 3-day delay
Oh no, how will SpaceX ever recover?

Anonymous No. 16404281

They're shilling SpaceX being unsafe really hard on orange reddit.

Anonymous No. 16404282

>>16404215
Literal nothingburger unless this statement was totally unprompted and not due to an inquiry.

Anonymous No. 16404291

>>16404262
You know I think NASA astronaut safety is NASA jurisdiction. And they've already shut it down. They're being very cagey about it though. This is true.

Anonymous No. 16404300

>>16404244
It's actually a lot cheaper to get to Jupiter
By the time you get there, you will have run out of delta V, and since you are already at 0m/s, you don't have to spend fuel to slow down

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Anonymous No. 16404301

So what's the plan for spaceflight after the first humans travel beyond the boundary of gaia's ontological anchoring field and immediately have their souls devoured and bodies possessed by demons from the outer realms?

Anonymous No. 16404305

>>16404301
>rub some earth from Earth on your suit
>explore the Cosmos
>fuck Niggermen
solved problem.

Anonymous No. 16404307

>>16404281
Commie trannies malding about SpaceX/Musk. News @ 11

Anonymous No. 16404308

>>16404015
Geology includes the study of other planets. Do you honestly think the guys who went to the moon were up there doing astronomy because they were looking at the moon?

Anonymous No. 16404309

>>16404301
Harness it, obviously
The soul-demon closed cycle engine has fusion levels of theoretical delta V

Anonymous No. 16404310

>>16404301
Find the minimum soul density required for a stable bubble and build an enormous transport ship in orbit. Cargo still plays by the same rules so it's not that bad

Anonymous No. 16404311

>>16404301
a future where humans are limited to earth's SOI but presumable can send robots beyond (as we already have) is actually kind of interesting. no mars colonization, but we can still build plenty of oneill cylinders

Anonymous No. 16404328

>>16404114
Kek

Anonymous No. 16404331

So thankfully these F9 groundings are on the order of only a few days at most, BUT. Doesn’t that mean America [technically] has zero access to space sometimes: as Shitliner is currently grounded and if you add F9 being grounded that means no Dragon 2 launches either (for a few days)

Anonymous No. 16404341

>>16404331
If it ever comes down to Dragon riding a grounded Falcon 9 or US losing the continuous presence streak, you will see FAA folding faster than toilet paper.

Anonymous No. 16404342

>>16404331
no country can go to space on a moments notice

Anonymous No. 16404344

>>16404301
This is why the chinese will dominate spaceflight.

Anonymous No. 16404346

Imagine being China right now. Laughing all the way to orbit while dropping boosters onto their villagers kek, gg

Anonymous No. 16404347

>>16404342
Go to space? Yes, that's called SLBM/ICBMs, these can be launched on a moment's notice.
Payloads no, but it's also not impossible.

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Anonymous No. 16404348

>>16404331
The FAA did once agree to this MOU about not messing with Commercial Crew.

Anonymous No. 16404350

>>16404342
America can

Anonymous No. 16404352

>>16404347
none of those can reach orbit therefore they cannot "go to space"

>>16404342
It would not be hard to have orbital class solid rockets hanging around, even though noone does it

Anonymous No. 16404364

>>16404352
Some of the largest ICBM definitely can reach orbit, question is if their operational load is low enough to reach it with a trajectory change; chinese and russian definitely have FOBS program, and the chinese may even have operational FOBS on some ICBMs

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Anonymous No. 16404365

>>16404342
>no country can go to space
>to space
ahem

Anonymous No. 16404366

>>16404365
Honestly where would we be without Bezos. Industry leader

Anonymous No. 16404369

>>16404308
does it include masks, too?

Anonymous No. 16404374

>>16404365
>a tube containing an environment where people can live that's in space but not in orbit around any planet
behold, an o'neil cylinder

Anonymous No. 16404379

>>16404366
Without BO? Quite a bit less talent pool in the newspace, BO has been the second incumbator for Astronautics skill behind SpaceX over the past 15 years. Also important for keeping the DC-X teams and skills around.
Some quite interesting R&D done with NASA over the years that wouldn't have happened.
No BE-4 so Vulcan is AR-1 powered.
Quite a bit less investment in test infrastructures in the cape, stennis, alabama...

Without Kuiper, on top of that, ULA and especially Arianespace's prospects would be bleaker, a good bunch of investments were met to meet the orders, SMART would probably be dead, Ariane 6 upgrades too.

Overall while operational capabilities wouldn't be different the non-SpaceX american astronautics would be at least subtly if not noticeably lagging compared to ours.

Anonymous No. 16404380

I cant imagine how disgusting a 100-person mars trip would be with little shot diarrhea nuggets and pee dropolits in the starship. I think i'm gonna be sick

Anonymous No. 16404382

>>16404342
astra could have

Anonymous No. 16404384

>>16404366
I hope his project Kuiper for suborbital satellites goes well. It'll take some effort to replace the entire constellation every 5 minutes.

Anonymous No. 16404386

>>16404342
Starship is stacked and ready to go

Anonymous No. 16404387

>>16404380
6 months space voyage is nothing like sea voyage that's for sure

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Anonymous No. 16404390

https://x.com/S3Clips/status/1840858826071031954

Well?

Anonymous No. 16404391

>>16404384
Suborbital refueling
Suborbital space stations
LEO lunar landers
Lunar mars colony
O’neill cylinders

Anonymous No. 16404392

>>16404301
>mfw the Warp is real and the only thing keeping us from Chaos is Gaia's consciousness field shadowing humans from the Warp

fuq

Anonymous No. 16404394

>>16404311
>>16404301
We'll have to do it like Eve Online with remote clones or something

Anonymous No. 16404396

>>16404387
have you gone on a nautical voyage? that would be exciting, might find buried treasure

Anonymous No. 16404397

>>16404390
bigger meme than spinlaunch

Anonymous No. 16404398

>>16404387
>Arr, look at ye earthlubber barfin up enough buckets to fill a full dee-po is his stomach dribblins' was combustible
>aye, just making a bit of fun lad. You'll get your spingrav legs in a microsol.

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Anonymous No. 16404400

>Starships 55,56,57,58,59,60 awaiting launch pending regulatory approval

Anonymous No. 16404405

>>16404391
Suborbital Lunar flyby. You know it's actually possible.

Anonymous No. 16404407

>>16404405
Ahhhh the good old days when I was just rawdogging KSP and I couldn’t get to orbit, but I could get absurdly far out suborbital flights and it still roused excitement

Anonymous No. 16404416

>>16404379
SMART is dead. It's just a mix of owner cope from Boeing and Lockheed and an attempt to make ULA look more valuable that it really is for the potential sale

Anonymous No. 16404417

>>16404405
I'm doing it right now

Anonymous No. 16404418

>>16404407
me designing a shitty monster of a launch vehicle that for some reason couldn't get to the mun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SppruC0G5k
"yup, needs more engines"

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Anonymous No. 16404423

>post yfw europa clipper is doomed because the FH MVac shits the bed in its second burn

Anonymous No. 16404432

>>16404423
Stop, it would actually be so embarrassing. Bruno would gloatpost like there’s no tomorrow

Anonymous No. 16404433

>>16404423
Great! So we don't have to spend six years waiting around on a search-for-life probe to return the intended "inconclusive" results that JPL wants to justify a Europa lander for the late 2040s

Anonymous No. 16404442

>>16404423
>current year
>still no successful falcon heavy core booster landing
that time didn't count because it was lost to rough seas afterwards.
embarrassing.

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Anonymous No. 16404444

>>16404407
no joke this is how i reach the moon in SFS, skips the whole gravity turn and earth orbit phase the moon just picks me up, EZ

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Anonymous No. 16404446

>>16404444
>>16404444
wrong screen for my moon lander but yeah

Anonymous No. 16404447

>>16404444
This will be New Glenn’s maiden launch trajectory lmfao

Anonymous No. 16404448

>>16404444
>sfs
cringe game for incel chuds who can't handle inclination change

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Anonymous No. 16404450

>>16404446

>>16404448
its fine when I dont want to think in 3D sometimes, can't wait for SFS 2 though

Anonymous No. 16404452

>>16404444
>>16404407
don't give jeff who any ideas

Anonymous No. 16404453

>>16404452
>>16404447
I don't think you could do this in real life could you even?

Anonymous No. 16404455

>>16404450
I'm not looking forward to it. the game seems to have a fanbase of midwit middle schoolers who see it as a funni physics simulator. they're the reason why there's no in-game delta-v info or maneuver planner since that would make the game too "complicated" or something

Anonymous No. 16404458

>>16404453
direct-inject to “TLI” (or at least a lunar encounter)? No parking orbit? It’s possible.

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Anonymous No. 16404462

>>16404458
So theoretically possible then? Neat, kinda like a BLT but skip the Earth orbit phase and the long loop back

Anonymous No. 16404464

>>16404433
What do you mean? JPL has dragged its feet for decades and had to be ordered by congress to do the mission after they backed our of JUICE and EJSM. They'd much rather be chasing more rocks on Mars and beating around the bush for 'signs of water' again than actually looking for life in a place literally made of water. They were ordered to do a lander as well but its looking like they're going to weasel out of it once again.

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Anonymous No. 16404466

>>16404455
Don't care, humans.

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Anonymous No. 16404473

>>16404352
>none of those can reach orbit
the Minotaur IV which is a retired ICBM booster with and upper stage on top can do orbital easy
the Minotaur V can do lunar and interplanetary

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>>16404458
Luna 20 & 24 and Lunokhod 1 & 2 all went from their TLI trajectory straight into their landing burn sequence.

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Anonymous No. 16404478

>>16404474
But no one has yet done the lunar equivalent of Percy's trajectory yet

Anonymous No. 16404483

>>16404466
I hate those little kerbal things like you wouldn't believe. fucking green beans, we need a real spaceflight simulator in 4k 60fps made by a AAA video game publisher.

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Anonymous No. 16404486

>>16404301
>demons

Anonymous No. 16404490

>>16404483
>AAA
get ready to pay 60$ for the season pass to get a chance to unlock the elite NTR

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Anonymous No. 16404491

>>16404483
It's humans finally in SFS2 in my pic, 1m tall humans

Anonymous No. 16404492

>>16404483
This is all you're getting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tDnWHSuNS4

Anonymous No. 16404499

>>16404492
huh, I actually remember having seen a Gemini/Mercury simulator some time ago in this general, so it was called Reentry. Seems cool, despite the 90s graphics. However, I would expect something more procedural and free to do whatever the player wants, a sandbox. This looks like your actions are very limited, and you are just following along with the script. I still admire the dedication of the developers, though, true space autists like us, it's just that in real life nobody would play a spaceflight simulator, it's a very niche genre.

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Anonymous No. 16404512

overkill?

Anonymous No. 16404515

>>16404512
Don’t give a shit unless the axes are labeled

Anonymous No. 16404518

>>16404515
guess

Anonymous No. 16404519

>>16404512
The time looks like a two-engine burn to depletion on a fully fueled Starship.

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Anonymous No. 16404520

>>16404518

Anonymous No. 16404522

how long until normies begin to use the deorbit issue as proof that SpaceX is failing just like tesla and xwitter

Anonymous No. 16404523

>>16404512
"Cannot warp faster than 1x while the ship is under acceleration"

Anonymous No. 16404525

>>16404522
Normies still assume the shuttle is flying around the Moon so who cares

Anonymous No. 16404528

>>16404522
I've already encountered some retards saying that SpaceX is a horrible company and should be nationalized because... they contaminate our waters. Yeah, all thanks to those hit-pieces about the Clean Water Act and discharging water into those wetlands, the horror. What amuses me the most is how the rest of the industry can keep dropping boosters into the ocean like nothing and face no public backlash whatsoever kek

Anonymous No. 16404529

>>16404528
erm they only launch like once a year chud so its okay when they do it (also i work for them)

Anonymous No. 16404534

>>16404199
Wfh
Paid 800$ for hardware and 120$/M for service
Granted I don't have a real alternative short of crawling back to verizon.

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Anonymous No. 16404539

>>16404512
Sound chart of the test. Looks like it was a relatively flat thrust level for the duration of the test.

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Anonymous No. 16404541

>>16404390

Anonymous No. 16404542

>>16404223
zubrin still ignores my emails

Anonymous No. 16404544

>>16404301
Faith in the Emperor is a sure defence against the Ruinous Powers

Anonymous No. 16404545

>>16404301
This is where cybernetic implants come in.
With enough silicon filling in for organic processes, the demons will have nothing to get hold of.

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Anonymous No. 16404557

>>16404547
sexo

Anonymous No. 16404579

>>16404547
where was this picture taken from?

Anonymous No. 16404587

>>16404579
iss

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Anonymous No. 16404591

>>16404587
yeah no shit. where? node 2 doesn't have any windows to my knowledge and the angle from a dragon docked in one port to the spacecraft in another looks like this.

Anonymous No. 16404622

>>16404591
idk Petit's post says from Crew-8 dragon

Anonymous No. 16404624

>>16404512
Probably, once the engine has reached steady state there isn't much difference whether it runs for five or 15 minutes. Still neat to see and desu if you can do it just to see whether that's correct why not?

Anonymous No. 16404632

>>16404525
Normies at my office were recently talking about the Starliner fiasco, and expressed concern that the astronauts would now be forced to ride home on Elon's unproven spaceship. The consensus seemed to be that they should just wait until "NASA can come and get them." They literally think that SpaceX just cobbled together something in the past few weeks specifically to "rescue" the astronauts, and that it's at risk of exploding like the rest of their rockets.

Anonymous No. 16404646

for the pluto fans out there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9OU6N2VKB4

Anonymous No. 16404683

>>16404646
full song https://open.spotify.com/track/4y68MbR4SBc8UcnvQgzvdA

Anonymous No. 16404697

I got a chance to pick a typical anti-muskrat's brain why he thinks Elon is just hot air when it comes to Mars.
>he thinks getting to Mars/space is the "trivial" part
>quickly runs out of arguments; says something like "have you ever seen successful space colonization? Checkmate, this means it can't happen in the future"
My posts start here: >>/v/690532797

Anonymous No. 16404699

>>16404697
>>>/v/690532797

Anonymous No. 16404715

>>16404699
Prob a Thunderf00t fan or something lel

Anonymous No. 16404716

>>16404697
one thing that plebbit and this website have in common is that both are filled with EDS lol

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Anonymous No. 16404719

SPAAAACEEEEE BIRTHDAYYYYY

Anonymous No. 16404728

>https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1840876337894211979
FEMA will provide 30 Starlink

>meanwhile SpaceX donates 500 Starlink with Trump

Anonymous No. 16404730

>>16404719
YAY WE DID IT

Anonymous No. 16404732

All the longshoremen from Texas to Maine are on strike. I believe this means ULA can't ship any rockets to Florida.

Anonymous No. 16404733

>>16404732
they need to automate and modernize unironically

Anonymous No. 16404736

>>16404733
The unions are shitters but they can do basic math. It's the end of them if all the ports automate. I hope state governments or the feds send them back to work at bayonet point.

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Anonymous No. 16404738

>>16404728
lol

Anonymous No. 16404739

>>16404736
these retards campaigned against containerization too. Not automating ports will only further erode the US' competitiveness and productivity as everyone else in the world moves on with employing longshoremen in more productive roles rather than dumb labor and busywork

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Anonymous No. 16404743

making some crew-9 webms

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Anonymous No. 16404745

I'll be glad when this election is over, gah

Anonymous No. 16404748

>>16404745
will you? what if harris wins?

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Anonymous No. 16404753

>>16404745
>pluto is actually a little bit paler in true color
well, at least it's got some beige, orange, and brown, as opposed to the one gorillion boring gray minor planets out there.

Anonymous No. 16404754

>>16404748
what of it? spaceflight will go on regardless of what happens in DC

Anonymous No. 16404755

>>16403816
>from otherwise well meaning people
Who believes this truly? The FAA is solely antihuman

Anonymous No. 16404756

>>16404754
i have no hope

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Anonymous No. 16404757

>>16404738
*fweeeeeeet*

Anonymous No. 16404758

>>16404755
Scoot Mangley is a pilot so if he badmouths the FAA he gets personally grounded.

Anonymous No. 16404759

If anything happens to Elon then I'll move to china and let my tax money there fund space

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Anonymous No. 16404766

>>16404759
based, go china

Anonymous No. 16404767

>>16404719
When did 4ASS launch this bitch into orbit? ERRM, why wasn't there a stream??!

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Anonymous No. 16404769

https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20240928-MH-AJN01-0001-SpaceX_Crew_9_Isolated_Launch_and_Landing_Views-M9466

Anonymous No. 16404771

>>16404767
Sorry, we used Astra $20 IP cameras and a can on a stick for a ground station. It's still buffering.

Anonymous No. 16404778

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1840987806388179258

Anonymous No. 16404781

>>16404778
Trump is surprisingly active in this Starlink initiative, it's election season after all I guess.

Anonymous No. 16404783

>>16404745
It has been absolutely awful here due to it, yes.

Anonymous No. 16404791

>>16404781
Even when he was in office in term one he did shit like this. Remember the McDonalds meal? That was out of his own pocket because the government was shut down including the White House chefs.

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Anonymous No. 16404796

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHHtqhlOyNA
>New OLM Build Underway as Starship’s Full Stack Comes to Life! | Starbase Update

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Anonymous No. 16404797

https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Press_Releases/ESA-DLR_lunar_analogue_facility_inaugurated
>LUNA will contribute to optimising our preparations for activities on the lunar surface through research into technologies and innovation for space exploration. This involves robotics as well as artificial intelligence, the utilisation of local resources and resource-conserving cycles all the way through to regenerative energy systems

I wish there was a a larger focus on insitu food production. I want to figure out how to grow mushrooms on the moon and mars using mostly resources acquired on site.

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Anonymous No. 16404806

>>16404797
Best I can do is uh... asparagus in faux regolith.

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Anonymous No. 16404822

>>16404796

Anonymous No. 16404824

>>16404781
Presidents used to be active. Trump follows the line of Presidents who take initiatives. Meanwhile, the white house cant even say anything. They have to get FEMA to donate 20? Starlinks which the FCC claimed didnt worked and claimed it was a monopoly at the same month by the same person.

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>>16404822
the ship that recovered parts of the booster from the previous flight is out there again

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>>16404825

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>>16404829

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>>16404831

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Anonymous No. 16404835

>>16404833

Anonymous No. 16404844

>>16404400
Has SpaceX at least applied for a licence for these launches ahead of time, or are they going to wait until the last possible second again?

Anonymous No. 16404847

>>16404844
Fuck off retard

Anonymous No. 16404850

>>16404844
They're going to launch without license and ban all fed accounts from Twitter if they do anything about it.

Anonymous No. 16404854

>>16404844
you're fired

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Anonymous No. 16404855

75% minimum

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Anonymous No. 16404881

>>16403774

Anonymous No. 16404884

>>16404881
Teethvirgins BTFO
Lipbros winning as usual

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Anonymous No. 16404888

Guys

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>>16404179
>It is the 41st millennium.
>For ten thousand years, the Emperor of Mankind has sat immobile upon the Golden Throne.
>His ships cross the span of the Galaxy, guided by the psychic beacon he projects ceaselessly.
>ULA remains on track to meet its Artemis goals in about two years.
>For in the grim darkness of the far future, every contract is cost-plus.

Anonymous No. 16404900

>>16404844
SpaceX is not very good at following the law

Anonymous No. 16404926

>>16404888
Would.

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Anonymous No. 16404935

How can Earth be in the habitable zone if the surface of the moon heats up to the boiling point of water? Our sun ie clearly too luminous. Our current ice age must be a fluke from 400-500 million years ago that is being corrected now.

Anonymous No. 16404936

>>16404926
Kiwi detected.
I get it though, this Rocket Lab merch probably pulls pussy over there on the islands. For you guys, thats a really cool thing to have, and I heard the chicks there are relatively easy

Anonymous No. 16404939

>>16404936
New Zealand girls are all alcoholic BPD whores

Anonymous No. 16404941

>>16404935
the atmosphere is a large heatsink

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Anonymous No. 16404942

>>16404941
NOT GOOD ENOUGH DAMN IT, NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Anonymous No. 16404943

>>16404942
air pressure lowers on the cold side and raises on the warm side causing convection, otherwise known as weather.

Anonymous No. 16404945

>>16404941
How much farther away or less luminous the sun would need to be in order for airless temps to not exceed 50c on the day side?

Anonymous No. 16404946

>>16404939
aren't they everywhere

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Anonymous No. 16404951

>>16404939
Blessing, or a curse?
It looks like a paradise to me, including the easy pussy, you guys are fucking lucky. Don't fuck it up with a bunch of stupid migrants flooding in to ruin your society.

Anonymous No. 16404957

>>16404939
i could fix them

Anonymous No. 16404958

>>16404941
that and all the water

Anonymous No. 16404959

>>16404951
too late

Anonymous No. 16404961

>>16404951
Nah she's properly fucked mate. Don't be fooled by the tourism advertising.

>tfw only avenue into space career is through a company that is going to fail soon

Cursed shithole Islands.

Anonymous No. 16404962

>>16404951
>NZ bigger than UK
Wtf, trippy.
>only 4m ppl
Perfection. You literally don't need more. Especially if you want to keep those bortle 0 skies.

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Anonymous No. 16404964

>>16404736

Anonymous No. 16404965

NameExoPlanets kinda sucks. Outside of the very first and most well studied examples, it is way too early to assign names to what should remain light curve catalog numbers. We don't know enough and there's too many of them.

Anonymous No. 16404966

You're a fool if you think the future of interplanetary travel is anything other than laser sails. Lasers have been following a moores law style path for the last half century and show no signs of slowing down. Chemical rockets are ridiculous for anything other than getting out of some shithole pl*nets gravity well. Beamed propulsion will be like the steam railroad compared to chemical rocket horse and cart.

>just wait 20 months for your 6 month journey to mars in a tin can bro

No, I dont think I will, I will be taking the space road instead, thank you.

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>>16404961
Rocket Lab wont go away, even if Neutron fails.
Just think about how favored you are, compared to other formerly respected countries that have rapidly turned into shitholes. Just travel a bit and then appreciate your gorgeous home enough to defend it to the death.
Electron is perfectly capable of hauling a megatonnage MIRV to anywhere that needs it, you should use this if needed. I give you the permission.

Anonymous No. 16404971

>>16404967
>gorgeous home

Walked the length of the country, we have a famous thru hike here. North Island is totally wrecked by intensive dairy farming, South Island is just as bad and has the added bonus of huge pine plantations fucking everything up. The New Zealand you see on Lord of the Rings is basically just the Southern Alps and some other pockets of national parks. Also we are getting 9999999999 Indians every year and we don't have giant sprawling cities to house them like other countries so they just stack them like firewood in every crevice around the nation. Oh and don't take your dog to a river downstream from intensive dairy farms, the water kills them when they drink it :)

The list of fucked shit goes on and on, the tourism department has done a goebbels tier job promoting this country.

Anonymous No. 16404975

>>16404945
>airless temp
That depends on the surface material

Anonymous No. 16404980

fags

Anonymous No. 16404981

>>16404971
Indians are the WORST, aside from Africans. Even Muslims and Asians are preferable to fucking Indians. They will RUIN your country, and fast. You already have shit in your rivers, there is about to be a LOT more where that came from. Indians love cows, but they also are really keen on river-shitting.
You could nuclear war with India, but they also have nukes, and launch vehicles, and could retaliate.
Can't you just elect radical Māori as your president, congress, and judges, and they reverse this bullshit and rapidly deport all of them? After all, its their land, and Māori don't take kindly to invasions. They just might be your ticket out of this pending destruction.

Anonymous No. 16404985

>>16404935
The atmosphere does all the legwork to keep the global planetary temperature within a pretty narrow range, blocking excess heating during the day and preventing excess loss at night.

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Anonymous No. 16404987

>>16404964

Anonymous No. 16404988

>>16404987
Whatcha gon' do with all that junk
All that junk inside that trunk?
I'ma get, get, get, get you drunk
Get you love drunk off my hump
Whatcha gon' do with all that ass
All that ass inside them jeans?
I'ma make, make, make, make you scream
Make you scream, make you scream
'Cause of my hump (hump), my hump, my hump, my hump (what?)
My hump, my hump, my hump (hump), my lovely lady lumps
Check it out

Anonymous No. 16405001

Functionally Against America

Anonymous No. 16405017

>>16404939
name a country containing white women where they arent like this?
sucks man, i just love aryan feet. want them in my face. dont want the drama and bitchiness asociated with it.

Anonymous No. 16405023

>>16404884
what do you mean, that stingray has teeth.
and what do you mean "usual"? lipniggers still haven't won a single time!

Anonymous No. 16405024

>>16404985
not to mention spreading it around, moon might be hot on it's sun side but it's extremely far below zero on the dark side, or really any area in shadow.

Anonymous No. 16405027

>>16404833
Good to see that stupid plot of land is behind us.

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Anonymous No. 16405032

https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1840556711448355261

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>>16405032
https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1840873133387157663

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>>16405039
https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1840950322140692558

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Anonymous No. 16405043

>>16405039
>mars has no valuable natural resources

Anonymous No. 16405046

>>16405043
What does Mars have that can be produced in-situ from those resources and exported elsewhere?

Anonymous No. 16405048

>>16405046
More important is what it doesn't have; niggers, indians, and the FAA!

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16405049

>>16404935
Dense atmospheres store heat and insulate the ground, which averages out temperature. Mars can get to 20 °C during the day and then drops into the -100's the second the sun sets because thermosphere is too thin to retain much.

Anonymous No. 16405050

>>16405046
144 million square kilometers of vacant land. what value does a rock have until you mine it? what value does a field have until you plant crops on it?

Anonymous No. 16405051

>>16404935
Dense atmospheres store heat and insulate the ground, which averages out temperature. Mars can get to 20 °C during the day and then drops into the -100's the second the sun sets because the atmosphere is too thin to retain much.

Anonymous No. 16405053

weird how people always make this weird assumption that mars is somehow a ball of pure silicon oxide with literally no useful resources. is it just deathcultism?

Anonymous No. 16405054

>>16405051
some martian summers have the day temperature at a comfy 30 °C

Anonymous No. 16405055

>>16405032
Dr Philtill - The great Obliterator of Fudders

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Anonymous No. 16405057

What do you think of chinas design for a lunar lander?

Anonymous No. 16405060

>>16405053
zero-sum communist thinking

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Anonymous No. 16405063

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1841098798828790091

Anonymous No. 16405064

>>16405057
That looks like a trash can with a bunch of shit stuck to it.

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Anonymous No. 16405065

>>16405063
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/heres-how-to-revive-nasas-artemis-moon-program-with-three-simple-tricks/

unusually long article from berger

Anonymous No. 16405066

>>16405039
They know that a Martian colony won't be right away, don't they? It will start as a temporarily manned outpost, then a permanent base which will expand and slowly turn into a colony. The important part is that the development of the outpost from base will take many years, if not decades. SpaceX won't be shipping dozens of people there every period, as first we will have to learn how to live there.

Anonymous No. 16405067

>>16405039
Why are some people so afraid of gravity? Is this a trauma response? SSTO is easy on Mars

Anonymous No. 16405068

>>16405051
Would mars be warmer of we thickened its atmosphere or would it just be more consistent in how cold it is?

Anonymous No. 16405069

>>16405053
Learned helplessness from the Moon being a weird shithole

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Anonymous No. 16405070

>>16405065

Anonymous No. 16405071

>>16405069
>>16405053
if anything mars should have more useful heavy metals in the crust considering it's a lighter planet, hasn't really had old crust dissapear through plate tectonics and as a result should be a hyper enriched version of the shield rock we find most of earth's mines in.

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Anonymous No. 16405073

>>16405070
lmao the SLS stans aren't going to like this

Anonymous No. 16405076

moon is an unusually plesant location. when i stand on the moon i think tranquil.

Anonymous No. 16405081

>>16405073
> Should Gateway be canceled, the biggest losers would be SpaceX and Johnson Space Center in Houston. SpaceX has a contract, potentially worth billions of dollars, to supply the Lunar Gateway over a 15-year period. SpaceX has plenty on its plate, so losing a logistics contract like this is salvageable. As for Johnson Space Center, teams leading the Gateway project could transition to working on more robust surface activities.

Anonymous No. 16405086

>>16405076
When I stand on the moon I think airless shithole

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16405087

>>16405068
In the short term, mars would at the very least have less extreme swings in temperature which might mean lower highs and higher lows. It would be warmer of average.

In the long term, it's hard to say how the climate would evolve. Water vapor clouds reflect sunlight and infrared emitted from the ground. Snow on the ground reflects sunlight. It could actually be colder after the climate stabilizes.

Anonymous No. 16405091

>>16404754
>spaceflight will go on regardless of what happens in DC
Unfortunately I don't think you're right, anon. That's where we're at.

Anonymous No. 16405092

>>16405068
In the short term, mars would at the very least have less extreme swings in temperature which might mean lower highs and higher lows. It would be warmer on average.

In the long term, it's hard to say how the climate would evolve. Water vapor clouds reflect sunlight and infrared emitted from the ground. Snow on the ground reflects sunlight. It could actually be colder after the climate stabilizes.

Anonymous No. 16405093

>>16404797
I bet green bean bushes would vine out to a quarter mile under lunar gravity.

Anonymous No. 16405094

>>16405073
I know Gateway was meant to keep the money flowing to nasa for manned moon shit but wouldn't a base be way better?

Anonymous No. 16405095

>>16404797
Food is unironically the easiest part of all this. The life support for humans gets you nearly all the way there as far as air and water. Then you can have the people sterilize their shit for soil. The three nutrients are just a matter of mining, and one is already a byproduct of life support

Anonymous No. 16405096

>>16405094
yes

Anonymous No. 16405097

>>16405095
Growing algae is easier than what you're proposing

Anonymous No. 16405103

>>16405097
I don't want to eat algae, I am a human.

Anonymous No. 16405104

>>16405103
you will eat the algae and be happy

Anonymous No. 16405107

>>16405103
In addition to eating it, you can use it as animal feed. Will you eat fish?

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Anonymous No. 16405108

>>16405104
I will not eat the algae.
>>16405107
Fish is good.

Anonymous No. 16405110

>>16404391
kek

Anonymous No. 16405113

>>16404520
brb, suicide

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Anonymous No. 16405114

Jigs dinner will be the universal holiday meal of martians.
Discuss.

Anonymous No. 16405115

>>16405108
I think you should reconsider algae. It's not like I proposed mealworms! Seaweed are just multicellular algae and certain cultures love that. You could make sushi.

Anonymous No. 16405120

>>16405073
New Glenn GS2 would be a better SLS upper stage than centaur V

Anonymous No. 16405121

>>16405120
GS2 is not operational yet

Anonymous No. 16405125

>>16405121
Neither is block 1b so the point is moot. Even the most ardent NG haters don’t expect problems with GS2 or for the rocket to take longer to be operational than sls block 1b

Anonymous No. 16405127

>>16405125
yes but Centaur V is operational already

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Anonymous No. 16405129

some relatively interesting launches coming soon (not just the nth starlink launch)

Anonymous No. 16405131

>>16404797
Just like everything else it will be a lot easier to establish how to do it once it's actually possible to try it.

The alternative is the approach of modern day NASA. They'll spend decades debating the virtues of various methods using increasingly sophisticated and correspondingly speculative theories only to then declare victory after dumping some beans sprouts onto a pile of sand and gravel.

Anonymous No. 16405132

>>16405127
Fine. SLS Centaur can be block 1b and SLS GS2 can be block 1c

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Anonymous No. 16405133

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1840813112192057663

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Anonymous No. 16405135

https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1840821959371673873

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>>16405135

Anonymous No. 16405137

>>16404888
The rocket company for delusional child molesters.

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>>16405136

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>>16405138

Anonymous No. 16405141

>>16404935
The ocean also serves to regulate temperature

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Anonymous No. 16405143

>>16405140

Anonymous No. 16405144

>>16404966
I am a fool

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Anonymous No. 16405145

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/01/impulse-spacecraft-delivery-startup-raises-150-million-led-by-founders-fund.html
>“This means that we’re sufficiently funded through the development of Helios and the upgraded version Mira and out past the first flights of both of these products,” Mueller said.
>Impulse’s next mission, LEO Express-2, is set to launch later this year. Then it plans to launch an updated version of its Mira vehicle in late 2025, perform a demo mission with Helios by mid-2026 and debut its “GEO Rideshare” missions by 2027, according to the company.

Impulse Space raised 150mil

Anonymous No. 16405146

>>16405137
Sounds like my kind of company!

Anonymous No. 16405148

>>16405001
Feds Against America

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16405154

>>16405041
This dumb fucker is trying to lecture us about economics and has never heard of comparative advantage

Anonymous No. 16405160

>>16405145
Reminder tom mueller accidentally retweeted gay porn on his personal account

Anonymous No. 16405161

>>16405160
based

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Anonymous No. 16405165

>>16405063
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1841127055502532624

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Anonymous No. 16405167

https://x.com/lrocket/status/1840877878613066208

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Anonymous No. 16405169

>>16405167
>t

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Anonymous No. 16405170

>>16405169

Anonymous No. 16405171

>>16405169
>>16405170
erics head is too fat for his body

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Anonymous No. 16405173

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841124599724937529

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Anonymous No. 16405175

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1841125903859843305

Anonymous No. 16405176

>>16405169
Meanwhile, Elon was playing Diablo 4 or doomposting on xitter from his basement.

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Anonymous No. 16405180

https://x.com/cnunezimages/status/1840842619158741452

Anonymous No. 16405187

>>16405138
spot the gator

Anonymous No. 16405194

>>16405175
the ball is starting to roll.
everybody realizes now is the time to take musk's starlink cock or get left behind by all other aircraft operators who are doing this.
this is going to generate so much funding for mars.

Anonymous No. 16405198

>>16405187
*gators
there's three in that image.

Anonymous No. 16405212

>>16405194
yeah seems like most were not aware or were waiting to see how it works before adopting it and now they are scrambling

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Anonymous No. 16405216

https://x.com/anduriltech/status/1841140977127604404

Anonymous No. 16405217

>>16405216
>In 2025, Anduril will launch its own self-funded mission, powered by Apex’s Aries bus, featuring upgraded mission data processing and new infrared imaging capabilities, marking the next phase of their collaboration. This next mission will serve as an essential tech maturation demo, and it will be the foundation for Anduril and Apex’s commitment to regularly deploying more mass to orbit.

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Anonymous No. 16405223

silly anon, those are just reflections of those light posts on the water.
see: one, two, thr...
OH

Anonymous No. 16405228

>>16405216
>SN-1
they're really not being subtle about spacex inspiring them.

Anonymous No. 16405230

>>16405228
Did SpaceX trademark the name "SN1" or the "serial-number" naming convention?

Anonymous No. 16405238

>>16405230
sure they didn't, but there's only so many companies that go out of their way to use the exact same naming conventions to for the public.

Anonymous No. 16405241

>>16405223
that's a turtle

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Anonymous No. 16405244

>>16405241
i'm talking about what's in the water, anon.

Anonymous No. 16405250

>>16405073
The chinese literally plan a space station as part of ILRS - they just plan it in the ~mid 2030s - cancelling gateway is stupid, the blowback would likely kill any new western attempt at a space station for quite some time, it's better to delay it, maybe review the way it's sent and supplied.

Anonymous No. 16405251

>>16405250
whats the point of Gateway?

Anonymous No. 16405254

>>16405251
do you really want to not have a lunar space station while the chinese have one and a base?

Artemis must be a long term program, deemphasize gateway, keep it out of the way for A4 or A5, but keep it running.

Anonymous No. 16405255

>>16405251
to be a gateway

Anonymous No. 16405256

>>16405251
So you don't need to bring a new service module with you every time you go to the moon.

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Anonymous No. 16405257

Game over. The US can't even land a robot without falling over and crashing against a boulder, while Red China has already tested their lunar architecture with landings and sample returns.

Anonymous No. 16405258

>>16405256
they have to do that anyway for the trip there and the lander itself tho

Anonymous No. 16405261

>>16405257
nah

Anonymous No. 16405262

>>16405251

An election every two years.

Anonymous No. 16405263

>>16405251
Chaining NASA to the moon, moon mission would be cancelled otherwise after the first landing.

Anonymous No. 16405265

>>16405254
if the space station is pointless, then yeah, why not

Anonymous No. 16405267

>>16405258
But wouldn't Gateway allow for much longer stays than whatever consumables Orion can bring out there? I thought the point was to enable a surface base rather than just doing weekend vacations there. Come to think of it just scrap Gateway and replace it with a permanent Starship station, less work and cheaper.

Anonymous No. 16405268

total gateway death

Anonymous No. 16405270

>>16405263
Meh, the chinese lunar program will tie NASA to the moon as well. Although there may be gaps (just like there will likely be a gap of western space station while Tiangong is running).

Anonymous No. 16405275

>>16405251
Sunk cost plus international partners force congress to keep funding moon missions.

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Anonymous No. 16405277

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1841149319359185382

SpaceX is asking for less strict adjacent band requirements (noise that happens in radio frequencies that are close to the transmitting frequency band)
ASTS space mobile can supposedly give service without looser restrictions

Anonymous No. 16405278

>>16405275
you can do that with a moon base

Anonymous No. 16405280

>>16405277
>all of these direct competitors coming together
man starlink has truly put the fear of god into them lol. positively shitting their pants.

Anonymous No. 16405281

>>16405277
https://youtu.be/TGe6017JwPw

Anonymous No. 16405282

>>16405278
A moon base would be more useful but more likely to run into so many problems before launch that it itself becomes a liability rather than an anchor.

Anonymous No. 16405296

>>16405257
true

Anonymous No. 16405299

>>16405257
wrong

Anonymous No. 16405322

>>16405216
wtf is going on in that last sentence, so much marketing bullshit about taking a photo.

Anonymous No. 16405323

>>16405256
wut? service module is needed for propulsion.

Anonymous No. 16405330

>>16405322
it's a company, what did you expect?

Anonymous No. 16405334

>>16405257
strong

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Anonymous No. 16405336

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1841136095251349617

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Anonymous No. 16405337

>>16405336
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841165332343374115

Anonymous No. 16405338

>>16405169
why cant berger open his eyes

Anonymous No. 16405341

https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.16840
Is the Binary Planet theory back on the table for our moon ot does Apollo still deboonk it?

Anonymous No. 16405342

name one difference (operationally meaningful) between starship and space shuttle?

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Anonymous No. 16405344

This still happening?

Anonymous No. 16405346

>>16405338
weed

Anonymous No. 16405349

>>16405344
Probably not, but NASA can't make up their mind on what they should be doing instead.

Anonymous No. 16405354

>>16405244
turtles live in water silly

Anonymous No. 16405356

space force having a field day today

Anonymous No. 16405358

>>16405251
Uhhh...errr......
The cope answer, without reading any of the other replies to this post prior, is that Gateway makes Artemis uncancelable (somehow). The real answer is that SLS can't get Orion to low lunar orbit so NASA contrived a destination that it could reach

Anonymous No. 16405363

>>16404059
It's moreso the types of fish

Sardines are for all intents and purposes are an infinite supply of food because they reproduce faster than anyone can fish them. But Tuna, Cod and Lobster take several years to mature to the right age to be pulled out of the sea and are much more valuable, so fishing rights are much more important.

I believe with Lobster, who is allowed to catch them rotates along the east coast of Canada and the US community by community, month to month.

Anonymous No. 16405380

>>16405338
the future he sees is too bright

Anonymous No. 16405381

>>16405041
>Mars only exports services, software, and IP
If this is what it takes to finally turn humanity against artificial scarcity, I'm okay with a Mars colony failing.

But the real future is 100% manufacturing and service economy in the belt. Manufacture kinetic weapons, and charge Earthers for the service of not dropping them on them.

Anonymous No. 16405386

>>16405381
you only need to do that kind of service exporting as long as mars isn't self-sustainable
if mars owns and operates companies on earth then that is also a source of cash flow (lets say a foundation from Elons holdings of SpaceX, Tesla etc)

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Anonymous No. 16405392

https://x.com/realhomerhickam/status/1841145299659608282

Anonymous No. 16405393

>>16405392
gigabased

Anonymous No. 16405396

>>16405173
are these people literally using AI to just summarize elon's tweets and retweet them as "news"

Anonymous No. 16405400

BREAKING: Russian section of station's worsening leakage elevates danger to highest level

https://gizmodo.com/growing-air-leak-in-russian-segment-now-deemed-greatest-iss-risk-report-reveals-2000505190

Anonymous No. 16405401

>>16405392
https://homerhickamlifetimes.blogspot.com/2024/09/how-i-got-sacked-by-kamala-harris.html

Anonymous No. 16405406

>>16405400
already covered by berger
>>16399478

Anonymous No. 16405408

>>16405257
weak

Anonymous No. 16405410

>>16405354
the thing in the water is a gator tho.
that thing on the pad there, that's a turtle.

Anonymous No. 16405411

>>16405392
based hickam

Anonymous No. 16405414

How much would a 1 mile tall space elevator save on launch costs?

Anonymous No. 16405418

>>16405392
very based

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Anonymous No. 16405419

https://x.com/cnunezimages/status/1841177602121257074

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Anonymous No. 16405420

https://x.com/cnunezimages/status/1841101970884456824

Anonymous No. 16405421

>>16405419
>>16405420
Wow, more photos of starship sitting around collecting dust. how exciting

Anonymous No. 16405424

>>16405322
They have to lean heavy on the marketing because they are one of the most evil dipshit companies out there. Quite literally building skynet sans the AI. Surely this will end well.

Anonymous No. 16405427

>>16404719
great reference

Anonymous No. 16405430

>>16405392
BASED

Anonymous No. 16405431

>>16405392
At this point, even the normies are tired or annoyed with current administration.

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Anonymous No. 16405433

>>16405392
>Absolute based take
This, NASA leadership is totally paralyzed, CLPS has failed, SLS 1b/Orion/Gateway/SLS-LM are all stuck in design and test hell, let alone the incoming bankruptcy of Axiom.
The entire Artemis programme was cobbled from the ideological leftovers of Constellation without any forethought for commercial partners. You can see this in the complete fuckup of the current design of Gateway and the current concern that HLS would destabilize the station. There's zero communication between the different Artemis teams let alone to NASA leadership.

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Anonymous No. 16405435

Terrestrial planet confirmed around Barnard's by ESA.

https://universemagazine.com/en/about-half-venus-mass-astronomers-find-a-small-exoplanet-near-barnards-star/#:~:text=Barnard's%20star%20is%20located%206,light%20than%20our%20home%20star.

Anonymous No. 16405437

>>16405392
Brutal conclusion, but true.

Anonymous No. 16405439

>>16405435
>too hot to be habitable
Ahhh shit can’t win ‘em all. Still a cool find though. There was a frenzy back in like 2018 about a possible planet around bernard’s star but it ended up being inconclusive. This seems it was finally confirmed. Not many exoplanets are found with a mass smaller than that of Earth

Anonymous No. 16405440

>>16405392
HH has always been very based.

Anonymous No. 16405442

>>16405414
how much would a 1 mile tall mountain save on launch costs?

Anonymous No. 16405443

>>16405251
rude

Anonymous No. 16405444

>>16405439
yeah i was about to say, half the mass of venus is like way lower than most of the super earths they find.
what's the lowest mass exoplanet they ever found?

Anonymous No. 16405445

>>16405392
This administration is absolutely raping American space dominance

Anonymous No. 16405446

>>16405251
Politics

Anonymous No. 16405450

>>16405257
bleak

Anonymous No. 16405457

>>16405337
>>16405336
does increasing the power also mean you can use smaller mobile units?
I want a smartphone that gets a low latency, high bandwidth connection everywhere in the world

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Anonymous No. 16405460

>>16405444
Draugr, orbiting the pulsar Lich, has a mass of 0.02 Earth masses, and is a whopping 2,300 LY away.

Anonymous No. 16405462

>>16405442
Not much. Gravity/aero losses so dominate first stage expense that even airlaunch needs to be hypersonic to pay off.

Anonymous No. 16405466

>>16405460
What is the limiting factor for upper bounds on terrestrial planets? Is it volume or mass? Is there a gray area between “earth-like” and “neptune-like”? Is it a gradient? Or after a certain mass do minerals and rocks just not form and everything is more likely to either be squashed into a dense core/mantle or sublimate into a giant atmosphere like neptune and uranus?

Anonymous No. 16405467

>>16405435
We seem to be discovering a lot of Mercury-analogues these days compared everything being a hot jupiter early on.

Anonymous No. 16405468

>>16405467
Easier to find the giant, massive fatties who are tugging their own stars / blocking out substantial light as they transit. Our planet catalog methods are slowly becoming more refined. It’s still hard to find exoplanets though lol

Anonymous No. 16405469

>>16405467
Because gas giants are much easier to detect.

Anonymous No. 16405470

>>16405342
theoretical launch cadence 1000 times faster
10 times more payload
no refurbishment between launches
cheaper by 4 orders of magnitude
completely automated operation
starship will be safe enough for manned missions
starship will be produced in the thousands

Anonymous No. 16405471

>>16405251
Its only point is so they could use their anemic rocket to nowhere to go somewhere. Not enough delta v.

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Anonymous No. 16405473

>>16405468
75% of exoplanets are found using transit. There's still so much shit "nearby" we haven't found yet.

Anonymous No. 16405474

>>16405381
These aren't necessarily the result of artificial scarcity. For example, most software is written, maintained and deployed by a single organization for its own business purposes.

Anonymous No. 16405475

>>16405467
Anything that orbits close to the star is easier to detect than something orbiting further away

Anonymous No. 16405476

FLOP-G

Anonymous No. 16405478

You know back when I was more of a normie watching popsoi youtube I used to get mad at those “native” hawaiians trying to block the new telescope. But now I think I share common ground with them.
Fuck astroonomers; go build space-based architecture

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Anonymous No. 16405480

https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1841194912722624518

post about CAB (Civil Aeronautics Board) and how its existence basically prevented the creation of new airlines
after it was abolished ticket prices dropped

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Anonymous No. 16405482

>>16405392
holy shit, Homer

Anonymous No. 16405483

>>16405472
cool mars base

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>>16405480
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841195335592390821

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Anonymous No. 16405486

It's no wonder NASA is fucked up. China already won SR2.

Anonymous No. 16405488

>>16405457
d2c is happening separately, not sure how high bandwidth its going to be
but perhaps ASTS spacemobile will do with their bigger satellites

Anonymous No. 16405489

>>16405478
if you can use mexican welders to build big rockets, why not use chilean welders to build big telescopes? no grumpy natives in atacama.

Anonymous No. 16405491

>>16405342
>name one difference (operationally meaningful) between starship and space shuttle?
One is a space plane
The other is a shuttle orbiter

Anonymous No. 16405493

>>16405480
I hate bureaucracy so much its unreal

Anonymous No. 16405494

>>16405342
orbital refueling

Anonymous No. 16405495

What would we realistically gain from colonizing Mars?

It would be completely dependent on earth for 1000+ years

Anonymous No. 16405501

Abolish the FAA

Anonymous No. 16405502

>>16405495
Wait until they finally admit that human fetuses don't develop properly in 0.38g.

Anonymous No. 16405503

>>16405495
1. A colonized Mars
2. No it wouldn't

Anonymous No. 16405506

>>16405495
>1000+ years
No

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>>16405470
>theoretical launch cadence 1000 times faster
theoretically, Shuttle was supposed to fly every week, with the fleet of 7 launching every single day
>10 times more payload
so far looks more like 2x
>no refurbishment between launches
as was Shuttle supposed to
>cheaper by 4 orders of magnitude
in Elon's cash (it's much like Elon's time)
>completely automated operation
no more artisanal rocketships is good, yes
>starship will be safe enough for manned missions
hopefully
>starship will be produced in the thousands
if the funding keeps on rolling

Anonymous No. 16405511

>>16405495
some of us have autism and simply want to do it because we grew up reading inspirational stories about how man will one day conquer the moon and mars.
The fathers of rocketry like von braun and tsiolkovsky read science fiction books as children and decided to combine math with realistic options for getting an object into an artificial orbit, just as the moons and planets orbited.
You don’t need a reason, why are you looking for one?

Anonymous No. 16405514

>>16405511
>You don’t need a reason, why are you looking for one?
Sustaining a mars colony of any notable size would require trillions of dollars worth of subsidies annually indefinitely, in order to recoup that investment you would need mars to generate some kind of economic surplus or it would be mostly wasted

Anonymous No. 16405515

>>16405514
Good thing musk has lots of money and starlink will practically print it for him. He’s doing it for the tism. If you have a problem with that you can try regulating him and preventing it but then you’re just a salty asshole

Anonymous No. 16405516

>>16405515
What do you get out of colonizing mars that you don't from colonizing the moon?

Anonymous No. 16405517

>>16405495
Mars could be independent in less than 100 years, or 1000 years could go by without any progress. For example what happened between the years 400 and 1400? Nothing.

Anonymous No. 16405518

>>16405516
Why does it have to be one or the other

Anonymous No. 16405519

>>16405516
Freedom

Anonymous No. 16405520

>>16405473
you can imagine there's tons of close exoplanets where the chance to detect it simply hasn't arizen in our lifetime yet because it hasn't transited due to weird fucked up inclinations or very distant orbits.

Anonymous No. 16405521

>>16405518
The moon already has something extremely valuable to harvest, which Helium-3. It has less gravity so launching rockets off the surface would be easier. It has water and fuel precursors, so life is more sustainable. It's closer.

Mars has all of the problems with habitability - most even worse - that the moon does but no clear valuable resource to extract.

Anonymous No. 16405522

>>16405516
What do you get out of climbing Everest that you don't from climbing Matterhorn, and why can't you do both?

Anonymous No. 16405523

>>16405522
I agree climbing mountains is stupid

Anonymous No. 16405524

>>16405521
Lmaoo

Anonymous No. 16405526

>>16405516
why are you asking this question, what are you going to do if you get an answer that doesn't satisfy you, cry?
if you think it's a waste of time, there's far bigger wastes of time and money out there, go complain about those.

Anonymous No. 16405527

>>16405523
nigger post

Anonymous No. 16405528

>>16405517
I imagine earth will still be exporting computer components, medicine, and luxury biologics (furs, wood, etc) for a long time

Anonymous No. 16405530

>>16405516
Colonising Mars?

Anonymous No. 16405532

>>16405530
The goal of spacex is to colonize mars specifically

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Anonymous No. 16405533

>>16405523
You just admitted you're non-white. Explains a lot.

Anonymous No. 16405535

>>16405527
>>16405533
>Why go to the Americas?
>Because there is a bunch of virgin unused land that can be exploited

>Why go to mars?
>Stop asking questions

Anonymous No. 16405537

>>16405470
>theoretical launch cadence 1000 times faster
magic numbers which will never happen
>10 times more payload
more like 0.5x more payload
>no refurbishment between launches
fake and complete fiction. its not even theoretically possible without massive changes.
>cheaper by 4 orders of magnitude
says who? so far starship costs several billion per flight if you divide cost by number of launches
>completely automated operation
no
>starship will be safe enough for manned missions
shuttle was. it was only deviations from safety protocol which caused the losses of vehicle
>starship will be produced in the thousands
magic numbers

Anonymous No. 16405539

>>16405535
>exploited
I've never seen anyone use this phrase who was not a thief looking for justification to steal from people who have things that you want.

Anonymous No. 16405541

>>16405537
How was Columbia a deviations from safety protocol?

Anonymous No. 16405542

>>16405535
>nonwhite trying to justify his thought pattern
you lack the genes that stimulate curiosity and expansion in white people, it's no wonder our way of thinking is alien to you.

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Anonymous No. 16405543

>>16405523
>Imagine outing yourself so easily

Anonymous No. 16405544

>>16405488
my understanding was that the original direct to cell service would be ultra low bandwidth, text messages only and only usable in areas without cell coverage

Anonymous No. 16405545

>>16405537
you are either retarded or pretending to be retarded.

Anonymous No. 16405547

>>16405542
White people sailed west in the first place because they wanted spices and silk from Asia without having to pay exorbitant taxes levied by muslims

Anonymous No. 16405549

>>16405502
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF ALL THE DEFORMED CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN MY HEAD?

Anonymous No. 16405550

>>16405414
well there's your answer -> >>16405462

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Anonymous No. 16405551

https://x.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1841178530148991179

Anonymous No. 16405552

>>16405549
>Someone points out a problem with your autistic fantasy
>Scream like a child

Anonymous No. 16405553

>>16405552
>create fantasy problem because of autism
>people tell you it's a fantasy
>scream like a child

Anonymous No. 16405554

What is the point in Gateway again? It's just a smaller ISS in Lunar orbit that requires days to get to and from rather than a couple hours? How is this useful in any way?

Anonymous No. 16405555

>>16405551
inb4 it's just a hydrazine lander/launcher in a Starship

Anonymous No. 16405556

all anti-mars colonisation earthers must die

Anonymous No. 16405557

>>16405553
Astronauts need several weeks of rehabilitation from being in space for a few months, I guess that's a fantasy problem too

Anonymous No. 16405559

>>16405502
the womb is zero G

Anonymous No. 16405561

>>16405554
A way for Europe to feel involved

Anonymous No. 16405563

>>16405342
Go outside LEO
Built in 100s per year rather than one every few years

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Anonymous No. 16405564

>all anti-mars colonisation earthers must die

Anonymous No. 16405565

>>16405557
>w-well look here's this unrelated problem that has nothing to do with developing children in 1/3 earth gravity environments
>g-guess that's a fantasy p-problem t-too!
your frustrated cynicism is not really helping you here anon, consider calming down and asking yourself why you're whining about a fantasy scenario that has literally no basis in scientific reality.

Anonymous No. 16405566

>>16405564
that's the kind of face earthers give me when i tell them they're not human for being scared of exploration and colonisation lol.

Anonymous No. 16405567

>>16405565
The lack of gravity lowers bone density which would obviously have disastrous consequences for the body's development retard.

Anonymous No. 16405569

>>16405567
can you show me the research paper where they tested whether or not human fetuses develop normally on lower or zero-g environments anon?
i don't remember anyone ever taking a baby up to the ISS so maybe you know something i don't.

Anonymous No. 16405570

>>16405569
I don't need to read a scientific paper to understand shit smells and I don't want to eat it

Anonymous No. 16405573

>>16405344
>HUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

Anonymous No. 16405577

>>16405559
Star Trek IV is not the one with the whales.

Anonymous No. 16405581

>>16405507
>>16405537
if you're going to post retarded bait, save us all some time and drown yourself instead

Anonymous No. 16405582

>>16405521
>He-3 kiddie
Lurk more and stop consooming popsci

Anonymous No. 16405584

>>16405495
>It would be completely dependent on earth for 1000+ years
wrong, gay and absolutely retarded
mars is completely isolated from earth almost all the time because it's on the other side of the solar system
a colony that is dependent on earth for more than occasional resupplies would fail immediately

Anonymous No. 16405586

>>16405514
>Sustaining a mars colony of any notable size would require trillions of dollars worth of subsidies annually indefinitely,
>source: it came to me in a vision while I was having gay sex

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Anonymous No. 16405588

>>16405489
The reason is the desire to have a telescope of similar size class both the northern and southern hemisphere. ELT and Giant Magellan are already under construction at Atacama. TMT has already lost a decade thanks to the natives and we didn't get any space hardware out of it. That's just not how the world works.

Anonymous No. 16405591

>>16405584
>a colony that is dependent on earth for more than occasional resupplies would fail immediately
Which is why a mars colony is a bad idea

Anonymous No. 16405592

>>16405559
neutral buoyancy and zero G are not the same
for example a buoyant object still has internal forces that an object in zero G does not

Anonymous No. 16405596

>>16405241
turtles only poke their head out

Anonymous No. 16405597

>>16405592
ok then "microgravity"

Anonymous No. 16405614

>>16405495
>>16405523
exhibit A that starlink is a bad thing. This anon’s mud hut should NOT have internet.

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Anonymous No. 16405615

>>16405539
>don't steal from the indiginous martians

Anonymous No. 16405619

>>16405597
>uses wrong terminology
>is corrected
>uses even worse terminology
Kek, even ignoring the whole issues around microgravity as a term, 0.38g isn't microgravity, NASA and ESA place microgravity at 10^-6g

Anonymous No. 16405621

>>16405551
Watch it be the exact same plan but it costs a quarter as much and is done five years earlier if you just don’t give it to JPL and ESA.

Anonymous No. 16405622

>>16405615
They had to invent more bullshit rationalizations for why Muh Colonialism Bad for the solar system, but they did it anyway.
>Don't go to space, you'll just create more places for people to be oppressed

Anonymous No. 16405623

>>16405591
No, that is precisely why its a good idea, it would be independent by necessity (unlike the moon)

Anonymous No. 16405629

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841207137420132549

Anonymous No. 16405630

>>16405582
still has more resources than the dead sponge that is Mars

Anonymous No. 16405632

>>16405619
No one gives a shit what NASA or EEsa says

Anonymous No. 16405634

>>16405622
>you'll just create more places for people to be oppressed
Only if non-whites decide to leech and follow as they always do, maybe.

Anonymous No. 16405635

>>16405630
Wrong

Anonymous No. 16405636

>>16405629
But I though Elon was evil Mr Monopoly with the moneybags greedy capitalist fat cat piggy?

Anonymous No. 16405643

>>16405634
Non-whites see whites as a resource to plunder.

Anonymous No. 16405650

>>16405636
100 starlink systems = $6,000 to generate enormous positive publicity.

Anonymous No. 16405651

>>16405250
>>16405588
The sky is distractingly dark there

Anonymous No. 16405654

>>16405410
You're insane

Anonymous No. 16405655

>Stop creating competition
https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacexs-cellular-starlink-faces-lawsuit-threat-from-european-telcos

Anonymous No. 16405656

>>16405655
Sue away, euroscum.

Anonymous No. 16405661

>>16405563
>Go outside LEO
this is the only legit answer
Shuttle wouldnt have been so bad if it could be orbitally refuelled and sent to the moon a few times

Anonymous No. 16405688

>>16405337
Which means that Starlinks have significant capacity per satellite that's untapped and the current network probably can support way more scale than originally believed. Huge revenue uplifts if approved with the same mesh in orbit. That's wild if true.

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Anonymous No. 16405704

>>16405337
Tragedy of the commons the post

Anonymous No. 16405705

>>16405495
The potential to offload huge amounts of industry onto a world that can't be polluted in a way that's damaging to the biosphere, because it has none; and any pollutants in the atmosphere is a strategic and structural benefit, as increasing the density of it over time increases radiation protections to everything on the surface. All the goods generated from this industry can then be shipped back to the Earth because on Mars, being 36-38% of Earth's gravity, nearly any rocket created is an automatic SSTO--and a Starship + SuperHeavy would be capable of putting 300T back to Earth direct trajectory without needing in orbit refueling. You could turn that planet into a huge economic hub that just pushes mass back to Earth and Moon to the tune of tens of millions of tons over the coming decades. This in turn means that huge industries on Earth can be dismantled and the strategic ecological threat that is industrial pollution and climactic impact falls of the nearest cliff with no hope of survival on impact.

Long story short: colonizing Mars solves climate change and saves the planet.

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Anonymous No. 16405707

>le ebic black starship guy thinks engine chill down is unique to raptor

Anonymous No. 16405708

>>16405703
How exactly are they supposed to download the update if they don't work

Anonymous No. 16405709

>>16405708
They work out of the box always the moment they're plugged in, because there's enough satellites overhead that any standing active dish will be saturated with signals from orbit. What doesn't "work" is the software saying "hey the packets I'm receiving, forward to the things connected to me and back to orbit." So the software update Elon's talking about says "during disaster conditions, ignore the account/payment requirement and act as simply a proxy instead of a payment terminal for service." This is quite reductive, but reasonably accurate to order of events.

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Anonymous No. 16405711

>>16405707

Anonymous No. 16405713

>>16404987
plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap REACH ORBIT REACH ORBIT REACH ORBIT REACH ORBIT

Anonymous No. 16405717

>>16405703
https://x.com/tomgrantham07/status/1841248155721220204

>>16405708
If dish is pointed to the sky and online, it will auto update firmware

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Anonymous No. 16405719

>>16405435
>>16405439
125°C, presumably day side, is no worse than the Moon. So if it has an atmosphere it may be quite earth-like.

Anonymous No. 16405723

>>16405267
The primary purpose of Gateway is to cope with SLS being unable to reach the moon in one go. The secondary purpose of Gateway is to have something out there to justify not just canceling everything.

Anonymous No. 16405724

>>16405707
this is what it looks like when someone thinks they're smarter than they actually are

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Anonymous No. 16405728

>>16405486

Anonymous No. 16405731

>>16405707
This is why I hated him from the start. All you have to do is be a retard and say things confidently and the bigger retards believe you.

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Anonymous No. 16405732

>>16404967
Cryogenic fueled ICBMs are hit garbage.
Hell even Hypergolic liquid fueled boosters are generally seen as second tier.

Anonymous No. 16405733

>>16405707
He's just another seething EDSigger

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Anonymous No. 16405736

>>16405521
>Helium-3
The ultimate sign of a popsci midwit.

Anonymous No. 16405742

>>16405521
>Helium-3
This is worthless.
It's more useful to collect hydrogen which is trapped in the lunar soil, along with the oxygen that's part of the minerals.

Anonymous No. 16405744

>>16405719
Lulwut? An atmosphere would make it hotter, the paper already assumes an earth like albedo of 0.3 not to mention this titbit at the end
>All candidate planetary orbits would be located inwards from the HZ of the star, with orbital semi-major axes of between 0.019 AU and 0.038 AU. Thus, all the candidate planets would be irradiated to a greater extent than the Earth, with incident fluxes of between 2.4 S⊕ and 10.1 S⊕, and their equilibrium temperatures, assuming an albedo of 0.3, would be in between 440 K for the inner planet and 310 K for the outer planet.
Here's the link
>https://doi.org/10.1051/0004-6361/202451311

Anonymous No. 16405745

>>16405629
He's just doing this to indirectly help Trump win. If I was in that area I would refuse the free internet out of respect for democracy.

Anonymous No. 16405748

>>16405732
>from a weather boy to a war criminal

Anonymous No. 16405749

>>16405745
This. Literally this. A Thousand 1000X this.

Anonymous No. 16405752

>>16405745
>indirectly
Not really lol it’s pretty damn obvious

Anonymous No. 16405754

>>16405744
>310 K for the outer planet.
That's not too bad, what are you complaining about

Anonymous No. 16405757

>>16405745
>>>>>indirectly
My man he has pledged tens of millions to the campaign.

Anonymous No. 16405758

>>16405643
Bit harder to build a rocket to Mars than get in a barely floating piece of shit boat from Africa.

Anonymous No. 16405760

>>16405745
Depends on how paranoid you are. Western NC outside of Asheville is as red state as it gets, and the faster it recovers the more people will be able to vote in the election. It is even a swing state. What does this mean for spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16405764

finally looked at berger's article and what a massive disappointment it was
what we wanted: a comparision of kamala's vs trump's space politics
what we got: delusional fanfic

Anonymous No. 16405767

megagravity

Anonymous No. 16405770

>>16405719
>presumably day side
Why would you presume that, instead of an average?

Anonymous No. 16405773

>>16405336
telecoms about to experience true elon autism powers that led to Raptor dev "approaching the limits of known physics" lol

Anonymous No. 16405774

>>16405770
Because it suits the conclusion I wanted to reach

Anonymous No. 16405775

>>16405758
They get similarly angry about white flight, so I can't imagine these phenomena are unrelated.

Anonymous No. 16405777

>>16405775
Access to whites, wherever they are in the solar system, is a right for brown bodies

Anonymous No. 16405779

>>16405774
kek, based

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Anonymous No. 16405780

https://x.com/spacewxwatch/status/1841251168187793908
>X7.1-class solar flare in progress

Anonymous No. 16405782

>>16405779
oops, I meant biased

Anonymous No. 16405784

>>16405780
https://x.com/spacewxwatch/status/1841247226107936940
>Gigantic X7.1 class solar flare in progress. Won’t have time to post about it tonight as I’m working this event! Will take #24 on the most intense solar flares ever recorded. Probably will see an Earth-directed halo CME. Enjoy!

fireworks incoming

Anonymous No. 16405789

>>16405707
I remember some anon here awhile back saying bezos was one of his funders. I kind of believe it.

Anonymous No. 16405791

>>16405516
Aerobraking

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Anonymous No. 16405793

>We were supposed to have a permanent moon colony by 2024

Anonymous No. 16405795

let it die

Anonymous No. 16405797

stockton rush
aka
stockton musk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XMkahqtjtE

Anonymous No. 16405799

>>16405789
Wouldn't be the weirdest thing. It brings to mind an old Linux lawsuit where Microsoft paid a dude to shill their position to the public

Anonymous No. 16405804

STAGING

>>16405801
>>16405801
>>16405801
>>16405801

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Anonymous No. 16405810

>>16405780
>>16405784
>xitter
stop being a zoomer for 5 minutes

Anonymous No. 16405811

>>16405719
>>16405435
cool, I like Barnard's Star :)
So far, this is the state of exoplanets around the closest stars to our planetary system:
Alpha Centauri: Proxima (1 confirmed, 1 disputed, 1 candidate), Rigil Kentaurus (1 candidate), Toliman (1 candidate).
Barnard's (red dwarf, 5.96 ly): one confirmed, three candidates
Luhman 16 (binary brown dwarf, 6.50 ly): still no candidates
Wolf 359 (red dwarf, 7.86 ly): one candidate
Lalande 21185 (8.30 ly): two confirmed, one candidate
Sirius (binary main-sequence and white dwarf, 8.71 ly): no candidates
I still think we are at the infancy of exoplanet detection, so I'd expect many more discoveries in the coming years, specially taking Starship into account, as well as its low price and high launch capability. Just imagine the kind of telescopes it could take into orbit. Also, don't forget about the whole field of exomoons, there could be many out there in the habitable zone orbiting superneptunes.