🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight Genera
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 23:58:51 UTC No. 16405801
Xitter drama - edition
previous >>16403764
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:01:01 UTC No. 16405806
https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/18
Faster than Light
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:02:01 UTC No. 16405809
>>16405801
Why the particular retarded screenshot?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:04:05 UTC No. 16405813
>>16405809
it was the last time I was on X
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:06:10 UTC No. 16405816
>dude helium 3
why is space literacy so fucking bad man
we're going to be colonizing mars and your coworker won't understand that it isn't around a different star
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:10:37 UTC No. 16405819
How long until he deletes this video?
https://youtu.be/zaUCDZ9d09Y?si=75-
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:11:56 UTC No. 16405821
>>16405816
I'll settle for helium 2, I'm not greedy
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:18:08 UTC No. 16405828
>>16405816
The wikipedia article on space resources mentions mining helium 3 would be very lucrative
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:19:59 UTC No. 16405830
Thoughts on $ASTS? Can it compete with Starlink?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:20:32 UTC No. 16405831
>>16405816
Other planets dont have humans on them, so they literally dont exist in the mind of the typical person. People know about the human dramas of space like columbia and challenger, but astronauts are never above 6/10 in the looks department so people dont care really.
Any popular normie interest is thinly veiled worship of attractive humans, so only send 10/10s if you want it to capture the mind of the average man or woman.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:22:02 UTC No. 16405833
retard question but if we saturate LEO with enough satellites could it reduce brightness and lower global temperatures?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:22:53 UTC No. 16405834
>>16405819
somehow i doubt this guy is the kind of person who gracefully admits when he's wrong
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:28:35 UTC No. 16405839
>>16405801
This will probably be the first thread that stays on OP’s topic lol
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:30:50 UTC No. 16405843
>>16405813
You should be put to gulag
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:35:14 UTC No. 16405851
you WILL mine the helium-3
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:35:52 UTC No. 16405853
>>16405801
>Blue Origin, still over 20 years to get to orbit.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:36:16 UTC No. 16405855
>>16405839
Op's topic sucks. Starship launches are based.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:38:33 UTC No. 16405858
>>16405801
Don't have any idea about the Shuttle's budget but comparing Apollo to anything else is straight up retarded. Not only was it showered with near limitless resources, it was a major priority of the government and highly visible, meaning failure would have destroyed a huge number of careers throughout society. Everything was aligned for it to succeed. Meanwhile lifelong "space fans" are cheering for SpaceX to fail because they're angry that Musk Man Bad bought twitter.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:39:45 UTC No. 16405859
>>16405819
As long as it continues to generate revenue, he will keep it up. His fans have long shown they don't care if he gets things wrong.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:41:40 UTC No. 16405863
>>16405830
was going to ask this like a month ago. I guess they have some govts and militaries interested in their GEO smallsat stuff. Also, some guy calling himself their VP made some retarded xost a while back about about how people shouldn't say the "stranded" word bc it's SpaceX fanboyism or something and it's contributing to risk-averse culture.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:45:02 UTC No. 16405869
>>16405830
Are they even planning to do internet service? I thought it was space-to-cellphone only
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:45:52 UTC No. 16405870
>>16405863
>>16405830
fuck thought you meant astranis
disregard, cocks etc
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:46:35 UTC No. 16405871
>>16405837
I heard from the inside guys, about 14 days.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:47:21 UTC No. 16405874
>>16405830
their bagholders on x are the most annoying fucks in the spaceflight sphere, I hope they fail
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:59:55 UTC No. 16405884
>dude NEW exoplanet
>a hot jupiter with an orbital period measured in hours
>tidally locked m-class trash
>"""super""" earths with enough surface g to cause heart failure
>umm it might be a brown dwarf there's no proper definition anyway stop asking questions sweaty
Enough coping. Wake me up when LUVOIR/HabEx come online and didn't get killed in the budget room so we can chase dark matter that will never be found some more.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:00:46 UTC No. 16405887
>>16405816
it helps if you don't work with retards
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:02:06 UTC No. 16405889
>>16405801
Admits?
This has been their announced ethos since the beginning.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:05:45 UTC No. 16405890
>>16405830
In the direct to cell market maybe. The FCC will decide their fate.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:06:38 UTC No. 16405891
Nasa spent like $110billion (counting inflation) for those 7 years. SpaceX spent $3billion in 2022 and initially only $1billion for the first few years.
The spaceshuttle was $130billion.
So yeah, there's that.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:14:03 UTC No. 16405899
>>16405891
Projected cost for OWL was only $1.8bn which is probably very optimistic but you could build something even larger and with the expected budget overruns would still come out way ahead.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:28:37 UTC No. 16405909
>>16405825
That's how you know it's gonna be good
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:30:32 UTC No. 16405911
>>16405834
Lol I didn't know he made a video about about that cringe fest smartereveryday
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:32:29 UTC No. 16405914
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status
>INSANE FOOTAGE: Footage of Iranian missiles launched towards Israel filmed from British Airways plane to Dubai
Suborbital rocketry is happening
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:36:55 UTC No. 16405917
>>16405914
>Suborbital rocketry
has been around for like 80 years. The v-2 reached altitudes of 60 miles. Iran is using a bunch of shitty old soviet tech.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:39:55 UTC No. 16405919
>>16405914
it did make me think of something earlier...the missiles were launched by iran's aerospace force (they dont have separate air and space forces). it made me think about how the american space force doesnt have much in the way of combat capabilities unlike countries like china/iran/russia. if we want to fight in exoatmospheric missile warfare then its either up to the army or navy. at what point are we going to start seeing the USSF have some real teeth? is the brilliant pebbles thing still a meme in a world of megaconstellations?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:43:37 UTC No. 16405924
>>16405914
who cares, elon musk's spacex megarocket just killed a bunch of insects!!!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:45:46 UTC No. 16405926
>>16405917
It's a bit worse than that. Iran's solid fuel missiles are about on par technologically with any of the new systems you see being deployed in India or China, but their liquid fuel systems are double hand-me-downs from North Korea that were originally gifted to the norks by the Soviets way back in the 1950s. Iranian LREs are barely one generation away from using nitric acid as an oxidizer.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:48:39 UTC No. 16405928
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:49:48 UTC No. 16405929
>>16405914
So this is what earthers mean when they say we should not spend a dime on space, and instead fix all earth problems first. Glad they are working on it.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:03:37 UTC No. 16405950
>>16405914
E2E is real, I've seen it down at Tehran
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:05:57 UTC No. 16405953
https://blogs.nasa.gov/voyager/2024
>Mission engineers at NASA have turned off the plasma science instrument aboard the Voyager 2 spacecraft due to the probe’s gradually shrinking electrical power supply. Traveling more than 12.8 billion miles (20.5 billion kilometers) from Earth, the spacecraft continues to use four science instruments to study the region outside our heliosphere, the protective bubble of particles and magnetic fields created by the Sun. The probe has enough power to continue exploring this region with at least one operational science instrument into the 2030s.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:12:18 UTC No. 16405959
>>16405953
It's honestly amazing these things are still working, as old as they are. They pumped a LOT of nuclear material into the Voyagers' RTGs
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:14:36 UTC No. 16405962
>>16405959
There are anons posting here whose parents were kids or toddlers when these things launched. They're the first multi-generational probes.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:22:41 UTC No. 16405969
>>16405914
Update:
https://x.com/clashreport/status/18
>Multiple impacts in Tel Aviv now!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:25:57 UTC No. 16405972
>>16405969
now this is space flight!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:28:29 UTC No. 16405974
>>16405969
>now
Happening is long over, Anon. No need to post this stuff here.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:29:01 UTC No. 16405975
>>16405969
The one on the left looks like it hit the sea, unless there's an island out there that you can't see on the video.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:48:15 UTC No. 16405990
>>16405953
>The probe has enough power to continue exploring this region with at least one operational science instrument into the 2030s.
>into the 2030s
wow, that's a long time
wait! fuck!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:51:07 UTC No. 16405993
>>16405990
Yeah and New Horizons will run out of juice shortly thereafter, meaning the further active probe humans have will be… Dragonfly on Titan.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:57:19 UTC No. 16405999
>>16405993
>further active probe humans have will be… Dragonfly on Titan.
ahem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shens
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:01:20 UTC No. 16406004
>>16405975
The right though
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:04:28 UTC No. 16406010
>>16405999
Yeah yeah I know but I don’t know how set in stone those are. NASA has Uranus Orbiter and Probe, and Trident/Neptune Odyssey that similarly get proposed but never chosen all the time.
I’m pissed NASA went with LUCY. Who gives a shit about the jupiter trojans, I wanted a Cassini-style ice giant mission
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:14:47 UTC No. 16406019
>>16405975
60 days before Iran can attack again while FAA constults with the fisheries service
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:15:50 UTC No. 16406020
>>16406019
lol
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:26:11 UTC No. 16406025
>>16405993
Sleepy times for those in the NASA Deep Space Network.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:35:24 UTC No. 16406034
>>16405969
>earthers finding out after poking the martian hornet nest too much
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:43:10 UTC No. 16406041
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:44:26 UTC No. 16406043
we need more probes. its almost 2025, the solar system should be abuzz with them.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:48:24 UTC No. 16406047
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:51:52 UTC No. 16406049
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:52:12 UTC No. 16406050
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:54:21 UTC No. 16406053
>>16405953
>The probe has enough power to continue exploring this region with at least one operational science instrument into the 2030s.
>we might actually get Voyager at 50
Yes please. I remember when about 10 years ago they weren't sure the probes could make it past about now.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 04:01:07 UTC No. 16406056
>>16406025
>>16406041
>>16406047
>>16406049
Somewhere I have a screenshot of the Voyager 1 cosmic ray subsystem data taken in August 2012. I used to check it at work daily out of boredom and noticed the particle counts becoming erratic as well as the uptick in high energy cosmic rays until it finally reached the cliff. NASA didn't officially announce it for several months so it was neat to know in advance it had left the solar system.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:07:21 UTC No. 16406083
>>16405825
HUGE SOLAR FLARE
X7.15 (!!!)
DATE: 10/01/2024
TIME: 22:00 UTC - Ongoing, Still at M7.4 Nearly an Hour Later
PEAK MAGNITUDE(S): X7.1
ACTIVE REGION: AR3842 (BYG)
DURATION: Medium
BLACKOUT: R3
ASSOCIATED CME: YES
EARTH DIRECTED: LIKELY - Details Coming Soon
RADIO EMISSION: TYPE II - 1246 km/s (!!!) - VERY FAST
10cm RADIO BURST: Yes 9 Minutes @ 22:09 - 810 SFU
PROTON: Possible
IMPACTS: Awaiting Details
RANK: 1st on 10/01 since at least 1994, 2nd largest of SC25, 24th largest recorded
NOTES: This is a significant event that occurred near center disk and launched a CME. Currently working on getting the details. As always when something like this occurs, the question becomes what happens next? As it stands now, we are officially on geomagnetic storm watch which will likely be upgraded to a warning pending coronagraphs. I will be creating a seperate post with CME analysis. I will be adding the various angstrom views below once the imagery populates.
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Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:12:13 UTC No. 16406087
>>16406083
sorry bud, nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:12:21 UTC No. 16406088
>>16406083
Any images from STEREO or SOHO?
MMX may still be running to watch the effects
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:14:10 UTC No. 16406090
>>16406083
>X7.15
absolute nothingburger
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:22:07 UTC No. 16406094
for reference
>The Carrington Event was the most intense geomagnetic storm in recorded history, peaking on 1–2 September 1859. It created strong auroral displays that were reported globally and caused sparking and even fires in telegraph stations
>A geomagnetic storm of this magnitude occurring today has the potential to cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts and damage due to extended cuts of the electrical power grid
>While no soft X-ray measurements were made at the time, the magnetic crochet associated with the flare was recorded by ground-based magnetometers allowing the flare's strength to be estimated after the event.
>Using these magnetometer readings, its soft X-ray class has been estimated to be at around X45 (±5)
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:23:13 UTC No. 16406095
>>16406088
Recent downlink is too big to post here, but the CME is on it
https://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/beacon
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:28:11 UTC No. 16406101
>>16406088
MMS is presumably recording, it's in the magnetosphere tail right now
https://lasp.colorado.edu/mms/sdc/p
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:30:59 UTC No. 16406103
>/sfg/ totally hasnt gone to shit from newfags
>literally nobody calls out garbage twitter screenshot thread
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:41:25 UTC No. 16406110
>>16405911
How does that guy turn 2 minute videos in 30 minute?
10 minutes into an hour 30?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 06:09:41 UTC No. 16406126
>>16406123
https://x.com/Backcountrybnd/status
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 06:24:44 UTC No. 16406139
>>16406103
it's been shit for a long time
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 06:27:36 UTC No. 16406140
>>16406103
I felt like it was pointless this long after it was made
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 06:34:40 UTC No. 16406143
>>16406126
>no change in timetable
so it's still all doom and gloom then. burn down the FAA hq.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 06:41:43 UTC No. 16406148
>>16406126
I hope this means they can iterate on medium changes and a bit on the landing location and so on without having to redo the license
the 5 launches with the same license with no modifications was absolutely useless in retrospect, of course they will need to do changes to the vehicle, that is the whole point of the test program
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:00:46 UTC No. 16406157
https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/te
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:12:49 UTC No. 16406161
>>16406126
>No change in timetable
It's all still fucked then fucking L2 faggots
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:12:54 UTC No. 16406162
>>16405401
Chatgpt summary of the article (the formating is so repulsive I can't make myself read it)
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:16:18 UTC No. 16406164
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:37:11 UTC No. 16406180
>>16406157
Texas A&M has over 70,000 students. I get that students want to attend a flagship tier university but at some point a campus simply is too large and has too many people. A&M has several branch campuses but they're not considered on par with the main campus so they're not really able to provide relief and are seen as being for lesser students instead.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:40:55 UTC No. 16406182
>>16405830
https://x.com/TheodorusAtheos/statu
they have bigger sats, perhaps "better" tech right now
starlink has launched like 200 D2C sats, ASTS just launched 5 of their first ones, neither is operating right now but starlink has some problems with the license (too much noise or something)
they might be able to work around this by doing some kind of deals with other telecom companies, buying some frequency bands or getting the FCC to loosen the restrictions on noise
then with Starship and the bigger starlinks perhaps they don't need to do any of that and can just work within the current rules and current frequency band assuming the bigger starlink v2 have a bigger transmitter, which translates to a tighter beam on the ground
ASTS spacemobile has some patents which might make it somewhat more difficult, but I wouldn't bet against Starlink (not saying ASTS doesn't work out, I was thinking about buying some stock some months ago but betting against Starlink and Musk just felt very risky even if they were good on paper)
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:59:18 UTC No. 16406191
>>16406182
They have the exact same problem as every other megaconstellation wannabees. How are they going to get to orbit? Two year wait list for Falcon 9 and that's the only vehicle that can do it.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:12:07 UTC No. 16406196
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:24:38 UTC No. 16406209
spacex is going to have 3 ready stacks waiting for launch soon lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:41:17 UTC No. 16406216
>>16406010
It's because asteroid missions are the miniature golf of space missions. The relatively low delta v required makes them much easier.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:47:40 UTC No. 16406220
So, here's what SpaceX and the Distinguished Competition say is going to happen. This is actually not going to happen. FAA aside, SpaceX simply can't develop and ramp Starship that quickly.
So, sorry -- but no Mars 26.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:14:22 UTC No. 16406227
>>16406220
they can if FAA gets out of the way
perhaps not 5 (so 25 launches), but I would be surprised if they weren't capable of sending one at least
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:40:49 UTC No. 16406242
>>16406236
more renders here
https://voyagerspace.canto.com/g/st
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:43:03 UTC No. 16406243
>>16406236
somehow looks very generic
like an oldspacefied Gravitics module
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:58:39 UTC No. 16406253
What’s the REALISTIC tonnage lift required to get a small crew to Mars and back?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:08:59 UTC No. 16406258
>>16406253
>small crew to Mars and back
Why the hell would you want to do that?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:12:34 UTC No. 16406262
>>16405969
>unguided ballistic missiles in 2024
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:14:43 UTC No. 16406265
>>16405969
>Americans are already doing the 'pray for israel' thing
lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:15:07 UTC No. 16406266
>>16406253
>back
Shiggy diggy
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:29:56 UTC No. 16406279
>>16406243
>generic
Doesn't really matter, NASA needs the ISS replacement fast, or we will end up only with the Chinese station in orbit.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:31:59 UTC No. 16406283
>>16406227
The Final Boss is NASA's Planetary Protection Office blocking any SpaceX Mars landing/impact attempt.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:32:50 UTC No. 16406284
>>16406283
>Planetary Protection Office
What can they even do if SpaceX ignores them?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:35:28 UTC No. 16406286
NB: Hague also mentions if it seems like Falcon has been pushing tin like a bat out of hell, it has. The Falcon 9 launch rate has been increasing at a near Moore's Law pace.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:41:10 UTC No. 16406290
>>16406041
>>16406047
I member when Sun gear was the shit for high-performance desktop computing.
Then Intel Core CPUs happened, and Oracle (aka Orrible) bought out Sun.
And holy shit those chonky big monitors. If that's any kind of a recent picture, it's almost like a museum of those days
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:45:32 UTC No. 16406294
>>16406164
So does that mean "we won't say she doesn't care because then we would have to admit that Orange Man Bad does care"?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:48:22 UTC No. 16406299
>>16406180
They have multiple locations even in College Station. But it would certainly be interesting if they could have a subway ring built under the main campus.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:51:13 UTC No. 16406302
>>16406284
The PPO directly regulates NASA contractors like SpaceX. There are laws and rules to that effect. Whether that extends to non-NASA activity by that contractor -- possibly the underlying legislation and the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 allows that too. And yes -- the Feds have the authority to enforce international treaties on citizens.
At best, since the PPO hates everyone, they will try and it's another day at the courthouse for SpaceX.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:01:48 UTC No. 16406306
>>16406302
>And yes -- the Feds have the authority to enforce international treaties on citizens
Is this supposed to be surprising?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:04:58 UTC No. 16406307
>>16406306
The "fringe on the flag!" types typically are quite surprised and upset.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:31:33 UTC No. 16406314
Nobody vite for Cameltoe Hay-rice.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:34:31 UTC No. 16406315
>>16406283
>>16406284
it's not going to be a problem so long as they follow proper quarantine and sanitization protocols
that's really the one thing that office does, exobiohazard containment procedures aren't optional and will need to be accounted for in the mission planning phase
they aren't going to stop the project, because they are very interested in positively identifying alien life forms for science
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:45:20 UTC No. 16406321
Abolish the PPO
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:54:42 UTC No. 16406325
I hate Elon Musk and all who support him. He's lead humanity astray wasting decades of time not only for humanity but for top scientific talent which is in short supply. He's squandered the finite resources we have as a society to accomplish large goals like space travel. He has unironically set back humanity for many many decades. Two decades of Space X accomplishing nothing besides destroying the night sky. I live in the deep woods and enjoy a night sky with almost no light pollution....except for Starlink. Elon Musk is a cancer on this world and all who follow him are braindead cancers shed from their fucktard host. Every last one of you Elon cultists disgusts me to my core.
100 years from now they will still study this scam master and all those "smart" people who clapped like seals as he threw humanity down a well....the gravity well.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:54:50 UTC No. 16406327
clean your room
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:56:15 UTC No. 16406329
>>16406302
The PPO regulating SpaceX as a contractor for NASA doesn't fly if SpaceX don't receive any public funding for the mission. The contamination line in the OST is vague enough to be argued as referring to the contamination of other state's work on the same body rather than the body itself. You'd have a hard time arguing that a dozen starships landing on the other side of the planet from most other probes and rovers is going to contaminate their samples. I would guess that the FAA would require a public comment period for licensing the launches during when the PPO would be able to argue their side but if unelected soience bureaucrats are able to stop the colonisation of Mars at step 1 then we truly are doomed. Imagine trying to launch cubic kilometres of payload but every inch of the rocket and payload has to be built in strict cleanrooms.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 12:01:24 UTC No. 16406333
>>16405819
I'm surprised he hasn't already.
How exactly does he debooonk starlink? I just started the video and he's already confusing price and cost again which isn't a good sign.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 12:14:13 UTC No. 16406336
>>16406329
they literally want return samples of Martian dust and water so they can prove scientifically and document that we discovered alien life
it's just you have to do it a certain way to make sure you don't contaminate the site
not only are the people who take these samples going to have to go through quarantine, their equipment is going to have to be meticulously cleaned and isolated until cleared too
it's a big job, you're not just going to hose the suits down to get the dust off then kick back and put your feet up with the rest of the crew
it's that water thing that's controversial and could be problematic when selecting a first landing site
they forbid certain rovers from even approaching sites with water because any potentially surviving Earth microbes that get introduced could ruin that entire endeavor for future experiments
so it's up in the air if the first site is even going to be allowed anywhere near locations with known water
could go either way, since they really do want return samples of the water
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 12:21:47 UTC No. 16406341
>>16406325
Wash your penis.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:06:09 UTC No. 16406373
>>16406333
Nice trips me
Watching through it more, it doesn't get any better. He has a chart of number of orbital launches per year that stops at 2014 for some reason. This video was posted in 2021. I don't know why he used such an outdated chart. Then he says that even if spacex monopolized the launch market they'd still only be able to launch 100 times a year.
Boo-womp. Wrong on both accounts.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:08:43 UTC No. 16406374
>>16406083
nothing status: happening
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:15:09 UTC No. 16406377
*AHEM*
>Neither robotic systems nor human activities should contaminate "special regions".
"an onboard crew member should be designated as responsible for implementing planetary protection measures during the mission"
this presentation was given ten years ago now
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:24:59 UTC No. 16406383
>>16406180
They just need to hurry up on TITS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:29:06 UTC No. 16406385
>>16406377
we still don't know if it's possible to grow useful plants in Martian gravity
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:32:26 UTC No. 16406386
>>16406385
The only way to find out which plants grow well and how to grow them is to try it.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:33:44 UTC No. 16406387
>>16406315
It's a bitch to sanitize a one tonne probe. It's effectively impossible to clean a Starship the size of a jet liner to that level.
It's waiver, lawsuit or no go.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:42:42 UTC No. 16406395
>>16406350
incredible confidence in The Launcher
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:43:55 UTC No. 16406398
>>16406385
Kudzu will thrive
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:44:01 UTC No. 16406399
>>16406083
So how far south are the aurora gonna go?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:46:49 UTC No. 16406402
>>16406387
While they are concerned about ruining any possible Martian ecology, they are far more concerned with the health of astronauts exposed to environmental elements and back contamination to Earth.
It's possible to clean all the exposed areas and equipment to prevent the entire crew from being compromised.
My question is, how would quarantine for members of the crew during the mission work in a Starship type vessel?
You would need a designated area that's sealed off.
The PPO, from what I gather, is more enthusiastic about getting humans to Mars than seeds and greenhouse chambers.
So I don't foresee them being obstructionist, just anal about monitoring microbes that the astronauts will be taking along for the ride and taking samples in a controlled fashion.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:47:24 UTC No. 16406403
>>16405914
How fast are these going in their terminal phase?
Iran allegedly used Fattah-1 hypersonic missiles in this attack which are capable of mach 13-15.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatta
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:50:32 UTC No. 16406406
>>16406262
You can see one dodge Arrow intercepts multiple times. It's pretty cool.
🗑️ Barkin at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:53:07 UTC No. 16406407
>>16406406
I experience the vision of a device that can be equipped by any mind. It presents itself in the form of what is briefly described as wild lines. In my mind is the vision of wild lines that exist as coordinates, where I can make a gesture to ‘point-and-click/activate and change (using mind muscle) the specified area around the wild lines used as coordinates. There is a space in every direction and corner I can select and change using the wild lines as an apparatus(for example: holding the area and the wild lines to the right, and attempting to create a swirl, leaves the imprint of a swirl). I can build things using this device and they affect how the experience of this device can be utilized.
I imagine affecting things far away with my mind, as if I had a personality in a different dimension. I have learned a lot about the different things I can build and exploit using the device, and have made a suite that allows me to imagine creating media and business in a far away place using my mind.
Again, I experience the vision of wild lines that seem to be generated by my natural wobble due to entropy(in terms of the fact we are never really still; as my eye moves right, there can be the sensation of ‘wild lines’ moving against my force and reacting. The nature of this experience is beneficial to learning about life. This continuous cycle and the imagination I stress by engaging with it leads to thoughts and recollections of the real world in which there is enough information to be filtered and re-worked. I have created very complex models in mind and am extremely intelligent because of this device.
The wild lines appear opaque and golden, barely affecting the experience of the real world, but definitely present and understandable - a light touch. Events occur, and scenes play out in mindspace, some I create and others randomly happen.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:53:25 UTC No. 16406408
>>16406403
Don't know, don't care. Not spaceflight. Ask /k/
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:53:29 UTC No. 16406409
>>16406336
do you mean for the commercial MSR? that would certainly need to be done with the highest planetary protection standards. But for bog standard one way cargo starships to Mars (most if not all of which won't stick the landing), I haven't seen anything mention a return trip until you're able to send dozens for prop storage/ISRU capability
all in all there is a significant conflict in philosophy between the two sides. Those who want to use the planet immediately and take first steps to colonisation in our lifetimes, vs those on the side of PPO who would prefer to see Mars remain basically untouched for at least a generation until further research can confirm one way or another whether there's life. The problem with the latter philosophy is that there's always "more" to learn especially if life is determined to have existed, but no longer does. Every site is going to end up like outback australia where you can't dig a hole without consulting the local boongs who believe that the presence of the shovel will disturb the sleep of their ancestors, despite there being no evidence they ever lived in the area
🗑️ Barkin at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:54:09 UTC No. 16406410
>>16406406
I wouldn't call it a hallucination, I'd refer to it as a kit that I have equipped to mind that can affect the mind in such a way it would hallucinate.
We act, and a device can be equipped which divides our mind-space between the nature of the act directly, and the nature of the act per one's mind, supplementing negative entropy with the generation of sense data occurring as wild lines in mind.
A few descriptors of the sensation of such activity would be: online, computerized, normal, powerful, necessary, vast, etc.
My mental illness is not because of my hallucinations, but my inability to act as a member of civilization and especially my inability to engage in conversation with others(except when answering serious questions, such as by being interviewed by a doctor). I find great discomfort in talking to others, and I repent religiously the need to play a role in the system of this civilization. I believe it's due to my cell-type, which makes it so I need a different kind of civilization. I also believe that humanity is not paying moral debt for the presence of it's civilization - that it's forcing newborns into the system without giving them the opportunity plus compensation in what I would describe as a morally safe zone. I would prefer to have no benefits, but the ability to exist on this planet happily in a place free of the burdens and encroaching debt of this civilization system.
AG4P00
Aggressive 4 Poo
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:56:00 UTC No. 16406411
>>16406385
It's not a total unknown, if plants can grow in zero-g it's perfectly reasonable to say they'll grow at 0.38g.
>Roots apparently don't need gravity to orient their directional skewing. They'll grow away from a light source regardless of gravitational forces. Waving, however, is significantly different in outer space, and the ISS roots curved and waved through their growth medium in a subtler pattern than they would have on Earth.
>Though plants on Earth do use gravity to help determine their direction of growth, "it is clear that gravity is neither essential for root orientation, nor is it the only factor influencing the patterns of root growth," wrote lead authors Anna-Lisa Paul and Robert Ferl in the Dec. 2012 issue of the journal BMC Plant Biology.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:56:49 UTC No. 16406412
>>16406123
>>16406126
Sure, all SpaceX has to do is not change the architecture ever again and the doom and gloom will be over!
🗑️ Barkin at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:57:46 UTC No. 16406413
fags
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:02:22 UTC No. 16406418
>>16406377
Nasa is not a regulatory agency and has no power here whatsoever. Especially not after Chevron
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:06:06 UTC No. 16406421
>>16406403
Wut
Is this a troll edit?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:09:06 UTC No. 16406424
>>16406409
that's a concern
the language about "special regions" makes me wary
for example, the water sites are the most interesting ones but from that old information it seems like they object to a human presence there
basically that research is going to be impossible without a manned mission that can return with samples anyway, or brought the tools necessary for analysis along to do some of that work on site
like a rover that could go out instead of people to collect the water would probably be acceptable because it's more easliy santitized and stored until use
the guidelines and procedures they are formulating are still important for that task
it's possible that they push for totally automated robotic systems to get it done, but that technology doesn't really exist yet
as for "using the planet" that's really not going to happen for a long time and everything in the near future will be for scientific functions rather than industrial ones
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:14:46 UTC No. 16406427
>>16406424
if youre going to troll at least act retarded.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:18:53 UTC No. 16406431
>>16406398
Makes me wonder, how important is an immune system if you sterilize everything and don't bring any plant diseases or pests? Could you make basedbeans that grow like kudzu? Or kudzu that's edible like lettuce?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:20:39 UTC No. 16406436
>>16406408
>>16406408
>Not spaceflight.
It literally is.
For being a jerkoff, have an Israeli interceptor detonating in space as well.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:20:56 UTC No. 16406437
>>16406431
>basedbeans
I forgot about that kek
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:21:06 UTC No. 16406438
>>16406431
with gene editing yes probably
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:23:25 UTC No. 16406439
>>16406438
Even with gene editing, how limiting is biochemistry? How much energy could you pump into a s oy plant? What is the maximum s oy bean per area if energy is a non-issue? Will we ever have electric wheat? Gas fueled potatoes?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:24:41 UTC No. 16406441
>>16406418
they do have power here, because the Mars mission will be a NASA mission that collaberates with private industry contractors like SpaceX
there's no way that isn't what's happening
SpaceX doesn't have the multi-field expertise to pull off a manned Mars mission on their own yet, they need NASA resources and coordination just as much as NASA needs them
that will change in the future, but at the moment NASA is still important
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:25:10 UTC No. 16406443
>>16406428
falcon has had 3 failures in 3 months. vulcan never fails.
theres your answer.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:26:04 UTC No. 16406444
>>16406373
>citing css
oh nononono
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:33:03 UTC No. 16406448
negative time discovered
Physicists showed that photons can seem to exit a material before entering it
>That follow-up experiment, the one led by Angulo that Steinberg touted on X, can be understood by considering the two ways a photon can be transmitted. In one, the photon wears blinders of sorts and ignores the atom entirely, leaving without even a nod. In the other, it interacts with the atom, boosting it to a higher energy level, before getting reemitted.
>“When you see a transmitted photon, you can’t know which of these occurred,” Steinberg says, adding that because photons are quantum particles in the quantum realm, the two outcomes can be in superposition—both things can happen at the same time. “The measuring device ends up in a superposition of measuring zero and measuring some small positive value.” But correspondingly, Steinberg notes, that also means that sometimes “the measuring device ends up in a state that looks not like ‘zero’ plus ‘something positive’ but like ‘zero’ minus ‘something positive,’ resulting in what looks like the wrong sign, a negative value, for this excitation time.”
>The measurement results in Angulo and her colleagues’ experiment suggest that the photons moved through the medium faster when they excited the atoms than when the atoms remained in their ground state.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/
https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.03680
FTL travel draws closer
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:33:28 UTC No. 16406449
>>16406435
yes, previous thread >>16405065
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:33:34 UTC No. 16406450
>>16406373
It's just EDS, originating from TSLQ faggots.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:59:34 UTC No. 16406466
>>16406448
>probing resonance with the cross-Kerr effect
>they don't know
lmao
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:59:37 UTC No. 16406467
>>16406444
>calculates that with 10000 sats you'd only be able to serve 300000 subs in america
Meanwhile in reality with only 6500 sats
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:00:40 UTC No. 16406471
>>16406444
Nice trips again me
>calculates that with 10000 sats you'd only be able to serve 300000 subs in america
Meanwhile in reality with only 6500 sats
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:07:07 UTC No. 16406477
>>16406472
ELON IS HELPING POOR RURAL WHITES SOME ONE STOP HIM THAT'S ILLEGAL
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:10:35 UTC No. 16406482
>>16406448
negative time dont exist. thats the devil tyyricking people
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:13:27 UTC No. 16406484
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:19:13 UTC No. 16406489
>>16406472
At least SOMEONE is helping them.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:20:37 UTC No. 16406490
>>16406472
Elon is a busienss idiot. he should price gouge the hurricane victims. double price or no serivce.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:31:23 UTC No. 16406495
>>16406472
should price gouge those fucking white pigs.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:36:17 UTC No. 16406496
>>16406428
To be fair the second flight of F9 was not two days after the first. Not that I think ULA will get to that cadence, but there's stuff to figure out.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:46:33 UTC No. 16406499
>>16406428
It's a certification flight.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:46:59 UTC No. 16406500
>>16406490
>>16406495
dont you have some rubble to remove rabbi?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:56:15 UTC No. 16406505
>>16406403
I'm sure there's at least some information about this online somewhere, but anything specific is burred under so much trivia about missile range its all but impossible to find. My best guess for terminal speed would be less than mach 10 but a lot closer to that than it is to mach 5. It all depends on how much speed the reetry vehicle bleeds off coming back in.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:04:31 UTC No. 16406511
>>16406500
remove?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:05:55 UTC No. 16406513
FUCKING FAA
could have launched a month ago and there might have been another about to launch in two weeks
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:06:39 UTC No. 16406515
>>16406513
Be patient
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:11:43 UTC No. 16406518
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:14:24 UTC No. 16406525
>>16406508
Lol seethe guy 5. If you like space, why wouldn't you just give in to SpaceX at this point?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:19:43 UTC No. 16406527
>>16406508
lmao
the projects spaceguy5 is on need to be cancelled
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:29:01 UTC No. 16406534
>BREAKING: US Coast Guard documentation indicates a NET Launch Date of @SpaceX's Starship Flight 5 of October 12, between 07:00 and 08:10 local time.
>This is ~6 weeks earlier than what had previously been said publicly by @SpaceX and the @FAANews.
>This is a Notice To Mariners (NOTMAR), and is just a warning to to "mariners operating offshore". This has nothing to do with a launch licence.
>Link to the notice https://navcen.uscg.gov/sites/defau
Are we back?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:29:59 UTC No. 16406535
>>16406527
Isn't it just SLS?
That'll be canceled when it becomes clear you can do a full moon mission with commercial providers at substantially reduced price.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:30:54 UTC No. 16406536
>>16406505
why is iran shooting at an empty field?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:31:45 UTC No. 16406537
>>16406534
Gaan.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:33:37 UTC No. 16406538
>>16406537
so maybe L2 was right >>16406123
>>16406126
or is this a different rumour
October would mean this month
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:34:38 UTC No. 16406539
>>16406534
please be real
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:35:13 UTC No. 16406540
>>16406436
Israeli or American? There were some SM-3s in the mix.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:35:21 UTC No. 16406541
>>16406535
i expect the trend to continue from CRS and commercial crew.
both cargo and crew and pretty much every other payload have already been given over to commercial vendors.
SLS is living on borrowed time, soon seetheguy will have to scrub floors at mcdondalds instead of the SLS team's office.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:35:22 UTC No. 16406542
>>16406518
Really, don't you have anything else to do? Like work, hobby or family?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:36:22 UTC No. 16406543
>>16406537
nee, we blijven.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:36:53 UTC No. 16406545
>>16406534
>Oct. 12 Flight
>Licence amended to include catch attempts and Artemis critical tests
The rumours are giving me too much hopium
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:37:18 UTC No. 16406546
>>16406508
>5 ton satellite was a massive payload
Wow, what a fucking retard. He obviously ignores shuttle's dogshit performance, which required NASA to use a tug.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:37:58 UTC No. 16406549
>>16406428
HIGH ENERGY CHAD upper stage (confirmed most advanced in the world) vs VIRGIN upper stage that is basically making an existing engine larger
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:38:40 UTC No. 16406550
>>16406536
these thirdie missile attacks are mostly just to sate the people's bloodlust back home, iran doesn't actually want to escalate with israel because they know there'd be a very painful retribution.
naturally because of the bad CEP some of them still strayed into populated areas, i'm guessing the ones who were actually a threat were singled out with intercepted while they let the rest hit the empty desert.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:39:05 UTC No. 16406551
>>16406545
>Artemis critical tests
so basically all flights? they could just get NASA to give out the launch license under experimental
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:41:35 UTC No. 16406552
>>16406537
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:46:34 UTC No. 16406554
>>16406553
source nigga
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:46:38 UTC No. 16406555
>>16405969
Too bad they missed the mossad
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:46:51 UTC No. 16406556
>>16406552
>>16406553
*shivering, shell-shocked voice, waving white flag above head but suddenly stopping*
a-are we back?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:48:06 UTC No. 16406559
Oct 18 would still be a 1.5 month delay, but I guess its better than Nov 18
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:48:49 UTC No. 16406560
bout time they did some (real) lobbying: look at how the SLS was able to survive all these years
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:49:07 UTC No. 16406561
>>16406556
maybe
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:50:02 UTC No. 16406562
>>16406554
4chan hacker
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:50:25 UTC No. 16406563
>>16406555
people always get angry when i point out most of the missiles reaching the ground aren't being shot down because they're not hitting anything of importance.
don't get me wrong, i'd love for tel-aviv to be set aflame, but everyone gets their hopes up way too easily nowadays and then hype up literally any adversary to israel.
people forget that the only reason israel is still standing is because the rest of the middle-east is just THAT bad at warfare, US allies former and current included.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:51:37 UTC No. 16406564
>>16406555
They're going to need much longer ranged missiles if they actually wanted to hit Langley
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:01:02 UTC No. 16406572
If we removed the atmosphere the FAA would lose all jurisdiction on rockets.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:05:30 UTC No. 16406573
The FAA should not have any regulatory oversight of rocket launches, period. The FAA should do airplanes, not rockets. Let Space Force issue launch licences.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:06:31 UTC No. 16406575
2-weeks gods, we won
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:16:38 UTC No. 16406585
>>16406583
https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/18
NET Oct 13, no source
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:18:35 UTC No. 16406586
Ars Technica website formating has become turbo gay what the fuck
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:18:36 UTC No. 16406587
t-this has to be some sort of elaborate troll right?
there's no way we gaan in two weeks right?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:20:01 UTC No. 16406591
booster guiding pin removal bros, have we been vindicated?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:20:17 UTC No. 16406592
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:20:28 UTC No. 16406593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amr
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:24:05 UTC No. 16406597
>>16406537
I trust berger when he tells me starship is launching in october without any sources
>>16406583
I don’t trust whoever this guy is when he tells me starship is launching in october without any sources
simple as
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:24:49 UTC No. 16406599
>>16406573
Not a regulatory agency although I agree that they should be the only authority regarding launches from their facilities.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:27:54 UTC No. 16406601
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1841
>We are "go" for the launch of the #VulcanRocket on the #Cert2 flight test! The launch window opens Friday at 6 a.m. EDT (1000 UTC) from Cape Canaveral, FL.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:27:55 UTC No. 16406602
>>16406597
https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/18
>I should probably not say confirmed, this is just what I've heard. Still awaiting an official announcement from SpaceX.
Oof
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:28:34 UTC No. 16406603
>>16406599
If not the space force, then make a space-FAA or something, a separate regulatory body ONLY for stuff leaving the ground for space. Hell the FAA can even regulate Starship E2E if it wants, but not space launches. The last 4 years have proven that they are not capable of enabling the required pace of spaceflight in the 21st century.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:28:56 UTC No. 16406604
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1841
> We are "go" for the launch of the #VulcanRocket on the #Cert2 flight test! The launch window opens Friday at 6 a.m. EDT (1000 UTC) from Cape Canaveral, FL.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:31:00 UTC No. 16406606
>>16406604
They should launch at a less ass time. I’m not getting up at 4am to watch this
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:31:53 UTC No. 16406610
>>16406603
The problem with creating a new regulatory agency is that it'll eventually end up just like the FAA. It's only a matter of time before any agency stops regulating for the sake of good management and starts regulating for the sake of justifying an ever larger budget and a political mandate that grows like a cancer.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:35:13 UTC No. 16406611
>>16406610
So we can't ever have regulatory bodies
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:38:52 UTC No. 16406617
>>16406603
https://spacenews.com/advisory-comm
I agree and think part of the problem has been that responsibility for regulating space launches was foisted upon an FAA that never wanted it hence the resistance to adapt. GAO, COMSTAC and congress have already largely agreed that it needs to be restructured but there is disagreement from the executive branch on the specifics. Its also an election year with a lame duck president so nothing will get done until next year.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:39:01 UTC No. 16406618
>>16406604
Ha Ha time to shake another payload apart!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:41:02 UTC No. 16406624
shiet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:44:38 UTC No. 16406626
>>16406534
>>16406537
I told you 'groids that something changed.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:44:48 UTC No. 16406628
>>16406624
sorry sweaty! We can’t go to space until rats stop biting people! We have to fix problems here on earth first!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:44:54 UTC No. 16406629
>>16406626
You didn't.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:45:39 UTC No. 16406630
>>16406623
Look at how soft and powdery it looks, hard to believe that each grain is sharp glass.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:47:51 UTC No. 16406633
>>16406604
America's Ride to Space™
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:54:24 UTC No. 16406640
>israel was able to coerce satellite companies into censoring pics of the iranian missile attack
grim
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:56:06 UTC No. 16406641
>>16406611
As much as it pains me to say we do need some organizing body to set rules of the road. We just need to be aware of how easily corrupted and inefficient out current systems are. Handing things off to the Space Force solves some issues but leaves a lot of the ones tried to having a centralized governing body still in place.
My preferred solution would be a complete decentralization of the FAA. Under a correct reading of the 10th amendment it's an illegal and unconstitutional agency anyway, and its powers should be devolved back to the states. If there were 50 FAAs every state could manage aviation in a way that matched their own circumstance. California could be the permitted hellstate it aspires to be while a state like Alaska that relies a lot more on bush piloting to reach interior communities could be a lot less strictly regulated. All the state agencies would collaborate to set some basic common standards while at the same time working in competition with each other to attract the most business. Blue Origin might have ended up in Camden if Georgia wanted to steal some of Florida's launch thunder. Right now almost everyone is launching out of Vandenberg or the Cape because that's where the infrastructure is and the red tape is the same no matter where you go. In a decentralized environment you could see a state like Maine undercutting Vandenberg for polar launches by offering a much friendlier permitting process, and if you have fifty different agencies it's a lot harder to subvert by parking a few industry executives in the right appointed offices.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:58:39 UTC No. 16406644
>>16406641
I like the way you think, fuck the FED give the power back to the states. I'd love to see launch sites opening up all over the place due to interstate competition, that'd be fuckin' rad.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:04:56 UTC No. 16406651
>>16406642
https://x.com/ashleevance/status/18
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:05:57 UTC No. 16406652
>>16406651
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:06:58 UTC No. 16406654
>>16406652
the SLS is such a unimaginable piece of shit
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:14:54 UTC No. 16406662
https://x.com/FAANews__/status/1841
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:26:39 UTC No. 16406672
>>16406662
cute foxgirl
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:33:10 UTC No. 16406674
It's called the space launch system, not the space launches system
Why would anyone expect more than one launch?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:34:38 UTC No. 16406677
>>16406674
100bil for one launch for a test of the Artemis capsule (which was unsuccessful)
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:36:29 UTC No. 16406682
>>16406678
Working alcubierre drive in two weeks
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:37:25 UTC No. 16406687
>>16406641
> Fly across a dozen states going coast to coast, each with different FAA regulations.
You have really not thought your concept out.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:37:34 UTC No. 16406688
>>16406618
>>16406604
They are launching a concrete block on this one. No one wanted to risk their payload.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:38:19 UTC No. 16406690
New theory: FAA delay is politically motivated. Musk's company accomplishing a heroic feat could improve public opinion of his political endorsements. I mean, I don't think this way, but it seems like the sort of thing a petty bureaucrat might fear.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:39:35 UTC No. 16406691
>>16406687
FAA should only be for interstate/international flights
Launching from Florida, going to the moon and back, and landing in Florida, should only be under Florida's jurisdiction
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:42:32 UTC No. 16406692
>>16406690
>new
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:45:44 UTC No. 16406695
>>16406678
Gimme 1.2bn and I'll build you a plasmadyne that can make 12 month round trips to Jupiter. For realsies, I promise.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:47:56 UTC No. 16406696
>>16406678
>>16406690
>>16406692
stupid frogposters
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:48:31 UTC No. 16406697
>>16406672
>it's not
Not based
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:49:36 UTC No. 16406698
>>16406609
> Phd University of Central Florida
> NASA homestate drone
Okay, thanks. Still betting on the World's Richest Man to figure this one out.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:49:41 UTC No. 16406699
>>16406688
Well, at least they'll have to work on shaking that block of concrete apart, but where there's a will there's a way I suppose.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:50:21 UTC No. 16406700
>>16406690
New theory: FAA delay was not politically motivated they are just government doing government things, but the decision to expedite was, since they would otherwise risk a major success on the eve of the election.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:52:33 UTC No. 16406701
>>16406700
>eve
The could easily have postponed starship until after the election.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:57:40 UTC No. 16406703
>we have to go to the moon to prevent the chinese from harvesting 330b metric tons of water which is easily converted into the most energetic rocket fuel we have (staging ground)
does this argument actually make any sense?
when you have starship or refuelable centaurs can't you just launch from the Earth?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:08:40 UTC No. 16406709
>>16406703
The moon is property of the United States. Be that it may, it is also true that no man or nation is entiitled to land they cannot defend. Therefore we must return first or renounce the claim.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:09:19 UTC No. 16406710
https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-
>FAA: we should have a separate standard for electric VTOL craft
>Industry: why can't you be normal and adapt the existing one for helicopters
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:11:17 UTC No. 16406711
>>16406703
It depends. Polar ice could be very useful as a fuel source for heading out to targets in deeper space, but SpaceX's Mars architecture shows that its nowhere near essential. There's also the possibility that you could producing water by baking hydrogen out of the lunar regolith. There's not much hydrogen in there but the same process that would have deposited Helium 3 on the Moon would have deposited a lot more H and the rest of the lunar surface is 43% oxygen by weight, and setting up a base out of the way on the pole just became unnecessary. You'd need to process a lot of dirt, but if you're serious about Lunar propellant production you're already planning on building enough infrastructure to brute force the problem anyway.
The real issue isn't the output of a Chinese lunar base but the unopposed existence of such a base. After all, this nine dash line map of the inner solar system shows that the Moon has always been sovereign Chinese territory.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:17:06 UTC No. 16406716
>>16406703
Launching from the Moon is trivial compared to launching from the Earth, lunar military facilities have a tremendous advantage in their ability to 'exchange fire' with terran ones.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:21:59 UTC No. 16406720
>>16406717
Atlas V is still flying? It's been such a long time since last flight, I thought it was retired.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:25:09 UTC No. 16406722
>>16406717
>20 launches next year
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:25:09 UTC No. 16406723
>>16406654
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:33:18 UTC No. 16406725
>>16406103
sorry I was on hiatus between starship launches
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:40:42 UTC No. 16406729
>>16406716
> Muh Moon Fortress
Prohibited:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer
And stupid to crawl out of the Lunar gravity well to start trouble.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:44:46 UTC No. 16406735
>>16406722
10 Atlas launches as a LV are possible, but that's just beyond their demonstrated maximum cadence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_
10 Vulcans? Ehhh.....
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:44:50 UTC No. 16406736
October 15
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:45:11 UTC No. 16406737
>>16406729
Fuck the outer space treaty.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:45:45 UTC No. 16406738
>>16406729
>worthless treaties
US will simply withdraw from them. (as it should, they are worthless, see also: Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty)
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/20
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:50:51 UTC No. 16406741
>>16406739
Buy L2 and find out
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:51:23 UTC No. 16406742
>>16406739
/sfg/ has 0 insider info, though
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:52:00 UTC No. 16406743
>>16406729
Nothing in this treaty stops people on the Moon from launching missiles at the Earth.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:59:32 UTC No. 16406745
>>16406735
Anything more than a single Atlas launch requires that Kuiper have it's production line up and running at full capacity, since they're the only non-Starliner payload Atlas has left. There are eleven government payloads that are penciled in for 2025 on Vulcan (plus Dream Chaser) but if more than two or three of those fly I'll be shocked.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 19:59:44 UTC No. 16406746
We asked the
@FAANews
about today´s published NOTMARs for Starship Flight 5.
The FAA confirmed that the statement from September 11, still stands, and Starship Flight 5 is not expected before late November.
NOTHING EVER HAPPENS
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:00:09 UTC No. 16406747
>>16406742
/sfg/ uses advanced forms of astral projection, scrying through use of various orbs, consulting the Akashic records, and reading the lines on burned chicken bones to determine the future of spaceflight.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:01:54 UTC No. 16406748
>>16406747
gb2 >>>/x/
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:02:22 UTC No. 16406749
>>16406703
All this shit about lunar ISRU is based on the constraints of shitty old launchers and is totally outdated. When you can cheaply launch a tanker of water and a Starship sized water treatment plant, you don't need ISRU for long term human operations. The cost benefits extend to fuel tankers as well. Do NOT talk about this outside of le secret club though, we want the public, government, and military to think there's some strategic reason to compete with China over specific lunar territory.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:05:05 UTC No. 16406753
>>16406748
Yes I foresaw that you would say that.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:05:48 UTC No. 16406754
>>16406518
yeah
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:06:30 UTC No. 16406756
>>16406743
Please go away.
Thanks.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:11:37 UTC No. 16406765
>>16406742
IFT-4 date was posted in the /sfg/ discord before anywhere else.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:18:43 UTC No. 16406770
>>16406765
wtf, my femboy bf told me about the date, is she emptionally cheating on me in the sfg discord!?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:24:35 UTC No. 16406775
>>16406746
Its over
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:24:43 UTC No. 16406776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6
Lol, turns out the ISS isnt even going to last long enough for the planned deorbit.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:25:46 UTC No. 16406778
>>16406776
qrd on this goyslop?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:26:34 UTC No. 16406779
>>16406778
Not even gonna watch but likely Russian shit falling apart at a faster rate than expected.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:26:49 UTC No. 16406781
>>16406776
So how are we suppsoed to build long term habitats on Mars when we cant even build long term habitats a few hundred km above earth?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:28:00 UTC No. 16406785
>>16406781
Don't know if you realize this, but it's easier to build in situ using whatever is on hand than to build shit for orbit.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:28:41 UTC No. 16406788
>>16406781
unironically build it with thicker steel
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:29:10 UTC No. 16406789
>>16406776
>AI slop channel
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:29:24 UTC No. 16406790
>>16406779
>>16406776
I assume it's something to do with cracks in the russian segment.
>>16406781
As long as the russians aren't building them we should be fine.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:30:00 UTC No. 16406791
>>16406778
A russian module has a leak, starting in 2019, but it's becoming a bigger problem with ever year.
But they cant find the leak, now they are thinking it's welds that are getting micro tears.
But the fact they dont know for sure is a problem.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:31:00 UTC No. 16406792
>>16406783
Delete the FAA
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:32:35 UTC No. 16406794
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:35:05 UTC No. 16406796
>>16406781
oneill cylindars
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:36:13 UTC No. 16406797
>>16406788
How thick are zvezda bulkheads actually? Can only find its mass and dimensions
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:36:14 UTC No. 16406798
>>16406781
So i take it you have not heard of the teachings of proonting?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:37:59 UTC No. 16406799
>>16406797
Depends on how much vodka the technician had that day.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:46:52 UTC No. 16406803
>>16406797
Not very thick given the fact that it's leaking O2
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:48:56 UTC No. 16406805
Are they doing anything else nowadays on ISS apart from fixing stuff and looking for leaks?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:49:40 UTC No. 16406807
>>16406635
This is what they are talking about!
WTF internet does not save lives
It saves boredom!
A town with internet cut off for days in a row has caused people to mass-purchase physical media.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:50:18 UTC No. 16406809
>>16406554
stupid frogposter
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:50:27 UTC No. 16406810
>>16406781
Dig a hole, cover with sheet metal, pile that mound of dirt back over the new roof.
Simple as
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:52:15 UTC No. 16406812
Can't they seal off the leaking module or is it already sealed off?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:52:26 UTC No. 16406813
>>16406805
It's dead and has been for a while. Post shuttle era left it so undermanned for years, half the experiments it was supposed to have never even got sent
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:54:00 UTC No. 16406817
>>16406807
Bunch of fucking casuals, imagine relying on the internet to watch things instead of owning your own media well in advance of something like this.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:57:07 UTC No. 16406820
>>16406812
They can but they'd lose a bunch of space and a docking port
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:57:42 UTC No. 16406822
>>16406783
If Musk says probably 2030 that's NET.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:02:00 UTC No. 16406825
>>16406746
sick people
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:04:06 UTC No. 16406827
>>16406807
People use the internet for more than consuming brain rot my zoomer friend.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:18:42 UTC No. 16406832
>>16406781
Many things become possible, nay, trivial when you do away with mass autism.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:20:19 UTC No. 16406834
>>16406781
NASA is bad at space
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:23:49 UTC No. 16406836
>>16406832
any examples of closed habitats working on earth with insignificant leak for decades?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:25:26 UTC No. 16406838
>>16406746
>The FAA confirmed that the statement from September 11, still stands, and Starship Flight 5 is not expected before late November.
yeah well nasa kept saying starliner is fine and the astronauts are not stranded right up until they day they announced otherwise. either that or someone in the white house found out that the faa was going to allow an october launch then they shut that down real quick.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:26:05 UTC No. 16406840
>>16406836
Aquarius reef base
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:33:29 UTC No. 16406846
>>16406843
imagine the amount of ants and beetles that live in those bushes that die whenever that thing launches, where is the EPA???
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:33:42 UTC No. 16406847
>>16406843
I don’t dislike this rocket as much as /sfg/ wants me to
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:37:54 UTC No. 16406849
>>16406848
turtle
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:38:47 UTC No. 16406850
>>16406848
Those are lips, not teeth.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:39:19 UTC No. 16406851
>>16406847
its literally my fav rocket
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:39:32 UTC No. 16406852
>>16406534
Nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:40:40 UTC No. 16406853
>>16406641
the red tape gets worse if you build outside of one of the existing rocket launch facilities actually
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:41:12 UTC No. 16406854
>>16406843
What does it actually do? Note I don't follow oldspace, no interest at all
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:42:05 UTC No. 16406855
>>16406554
I typed it into my phone
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:42:28 UTC No. 16406856
>>16406851
many people complain about elon time, but what about tory time?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:43:42 UTC No. 16406857
>>16406849
turtles only poke their head above water
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:46:11 UTC No. 16406858
>>16406854
It goes to space. Supposedly you can even put stuff inside it and it will take that stuff to space.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:46:16 UTC No. 16406859
>>16406854
It's a more powerful Atlas V with a little less autism about hyper-specific launch vehicle configurations.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:48:23 UTC No. 16406860
>>16406857
yep, that's a turtle head
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:59:16 UTC No. 16406875
>>16406860
look again
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:01:19 UTC No. 16406880
the outer space treaty restrict my access to firearms as a person of the united states and thus violates my second amendment rights and is thus null and void
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:02:09 UTC No. 16406883
>>16406402
>they are far more concerned with the health of astronauts exposed to environmental elements and back contamination to Earth.
>millions of years
>no atmosphere
>very cold
>taken to Urf
>high temperatures
>lots of fucking OXYGEN (toxic to life that hasn't evolved with it)
somehow it's going to have any effect other than dying when brought here
This is as dumb as believing in homonid ayylamos.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:03:58 UTC No. 16406885
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:08:00 UTC No. 16406890
>>16406857
false
don't make me go look for turtles
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:08:07 UTC No. 16406891
>>16406534
nothing evrTWO WEEKS
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:09:56 UTC No. 16406894
>>16406851
>We're going to create an economy in LEO using the scraps of propellant left over in used Centaurs. Later we'll do more refueling using propellant launched by more Vulcans
Christ, he's really trying to live out the "more expendable launch vehicles" meme, isn't he?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:14:58 UTC No. 16406904
>>16406851
>another architecture relying on a system of orbital refueling
How much will a gallon of elonfuel(tm) cost? Will locations have convenience stores? Will it be methalox only or will they have other fuels?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:15:56 UTC No. 16406906
>>16406641
I'm sure at least Alaska would be happy about this.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:18:54 UTC No. 16406910
>>16406640
>not replacing them with goatse pics
sad
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:21:12 UTC No. 16406913
>>16406765
Retard that came from the nips who got ahold of if first by digging through the dates on their end. Clearbros earned protected status from that since they spread the info to the west but it was already common knowledge in Japan so its not insider info.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:22:36 UTC No. 16406916
>>16406778
Back to >>>/pol/
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:23:53 UTC No. 16406917
>>16406849
that's a gator
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:24:41 UTC No. 16406918
>>16406747
It was revealed to /sfg/ in a dream.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:25:21 UTC No. 16406919
>>16406569
Meaning?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:28:46 UTC No. 16406923
>>16406851
I like how it beat New Glenn to orbit.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:28:47 UTC No. 16406924
>>16406781
Martian regolith has 3.8L of water per cubic meter. There's an assload of water in the soil anon. You can ship additive material on Starships, use energy to extract water from the soil, then mix the water with the soil and the additive material to create Martian concrete. You then use this to create structure on the surface and below the surface. You can vacuum rate them too. Once you have a large enclosed space that's sealed from the elements and has pressured airlocks all around it. Then you can go to town and build as you like inside.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:31:25 UTC No. 16406925
>>16406924
>Then you can go to town and build
air mattresses!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:31:33 UTC No. 16406926
>>16406923
easy to answer: US can't into hydrocarbon fuel engines, took a lot of time to develop, then we redesigned the vehicle several times over
still embarassing but there you go
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:31:52 UTC No. 16406927
>>16406924
3.8 L of water isn't an "assload"
it's "enough"
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:33:24 UTC No. 16406929
>>16406925
>we
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:34:11 UTC No. 16406931
>>16406926
>US can't into hydrocarbon fuel engines
What is Raptor
What is Merlin
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:36:52 UTC No. 16406934
Did the reddit spacex board ban all Musk posts? LMAO I cant find of Musk's announcements there.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:41:47 UTC No. 16406940
>>16406875
methink you dont know what a turtle is
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:44:47 UTC No. 16406943
>>16406931
>Fastrac, RS-76, RS-84, RS-X, STBE, TR-107...
We've had plenty of hydrocarbon engine designs. There just wasn't any need to complete their development because no one was going to build a rocket that would use them
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:45:02 UTC No. 16406945
its so dead lately
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:46:08 UTC No. 16406946
>>16406945
too many frogposters drove away all the good posters
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:52:05 UTC No. 16406950
sfg in 2044: mars colony? wow who cares. boring. been there. done that. talk about ceres or callisto or go back to /pol/.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 22:58:19 UTC No. 16406955
>>16406950
>it's been 3 months since last cargo/crew arrived at Mars base
SOMETHING BETTER HAPPEN, I'M FUCKIN BORED
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:00:47 UTC No. 16406957
>>16406883
you're an idiot if you think Mars has always been like it is now and extremophiles don't exist
there's a good reason retards like you aren't gaan, while PPO has funding
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:02:21 UTC No. 16406958
>>16406946
Too many ESL posters shitting on everything with /pol/ bait drove people away. Nobody gives a shit about Pepes.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:02:54 UTC No. 16406959
>>16406955
TWO. YEARS.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:03:16 UTC No. 16406960
name a single "Extremophile" which lives in a fucking vacuum you idiot
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:04:42 UTC No. 16406961
>>16406958
I have noticed a distinct correlation between those two groups
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:05:42 UTC No. 16406962
>>16406960
the stuff that was growing on the outside of Mir
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:07:53 UTC No. 16406963
>>16406789
It sounds like you're just bitter AI is making better content than you can
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:09:13 UTC No. 16406965
>>16406962
mir isnt a vacuum
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:12:24 UTC No. 16406969
>>16406965
the outside was in LEO my dude
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:13:18 UTC No. 16406970
>>16406969
leo isnt a vacuum
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:13:47 UTC No. 16406971
>>16406970
more of a vacuum than the surface of Mars
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:15:36 UTC No. 16406973
>>16406971
you've been to both?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:18:09 UTC No. 16406977
>>16406973
yeah
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:22:24 UTC No. 16406980
>>16406960
Viking discovered strong evidence of microbial life on Mars in the Labeled Release experiment.
That was close to 50 years ago now.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:29:32 UTC No. 16406983
>>16406980
>he doesnt know about perchlorates
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:31:47 UTC No. 16406985
>>16406555
Go back to /pol/ nigger
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:38:53 UTC No. 16406991
>>16406927
>can't tell if sarcastic or retarded
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:39:21 UTC No. 16406993
Reminder that the DoD not only secretly asked astronomers what the probability of intelligent life in the galaxy is but also wanted to know where in the galaxy they would most likely be and that the prediction given is very close to the calculated most likely origin of the WoW! signal.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:40:02 UTC No. 16406994
>>16406703
We have to go to the Moon to prevent the Chinese or anyone else from trying to say that Apollo never happened and the Chinese were actually the first to ever set foot on the Moon.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:42:10 UTC No. 16406997
>>16406635
The FCC’s decision to reaffirm the revocation of SpaceX’s Starlink’s award for expanding internet access to rural areas has sparked criticism, particularly as the FCC chair promotes competition against Starlink.
Commissioner Brendan Carr highlighted the inconsistency in the FCC’s stance, questioning how the agency can deem Starlink incapable of providing high-speed internet in 2023 while suggesting it’s competitive enough to warrant discussions about monopoly in 2024.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:44:21 UTC No. 16407000
>>16406850
kek
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:46:49 UTC No. 16407003
>>16406993
>ask astronomers where intelligent life is most likely to be
>they say that if it's anywhere that it's probably from where the Wow! signal came from
Crazy.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:47:51 UTC No. 16407004
>>16406993
no way.
what was the probability for intelligent life?
link to the paper?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 23:53:47 UTC No. 16407016
>>16407004
https://www.dia.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Elect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2MASS
Other candidate stars exist besides this one.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:16:46 UTC No. 16407041
>>16407016
Saved and printed, my room now reeks of xerox
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:17:50 UTC No. 16407044
>>16406993
>Frank "If you multiply unknowns in a fancy way people won't realize you're full of bullshit" Drake
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:25:32 UTC No. 16407053
>>16406781
3D printing of course!
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:29:02 UTC No. 16407054
>>16406957
There is no realistic condition where Mars life is harmful to human beings. None.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:32:10 UTC No. 16407057
>>16407054
I can think of one
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:32:13 UTC No. 16407058
>>16406053
Yeah this is off the top of my head but some boomer autist found a way to reprogram the whole damn thing so it draws way less power per each instrument still online. They forced a system update to voyagers 1 and 2 and got like +10 more years out of each probe.
Or at least something to that effect
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:35:57 UTC No. 16407060
>>16407044
>variable a: 1/4
>variable b: 1/3
>variable c: 10^-890
>variable d: 1/5
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:39:27 UTC No. 16407065
Curious, I noticed a surge of anti-SLS posts on xitter. What caused that?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:40:20 UTC No. 16407066
>>16407065
election season
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:40:53 UTC No. 16407067
>>16407065
Relevant people in the industry are talking about it.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:03:39 UTC No. 16407084
>>16407058
RTG output has also decayed more slowly than predicted. Perhaps due to thermocouple overperformance or increasing high energy cosmic neutrino flux having a slight effect on decay rates or decay propagation direction.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:06:30 UTC No. 16407089
>>16407054
cool damage control
you have absolutely no way to substantiate this claim, and there are entire offices full of aerospace professionals who take the possibility very seriously
nobody has a clue what might be lying dormant on Mars just waiting for a warm body to reactivate
or how the human immune system would react to alien microbes
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:07:01 UTC No. 16407091
>>16407058
I remember something like that, might also have been heater usage optimisation I think.
>>16407084
I assumed that was more due to conservative assumptions on the decay but then that should be pretty easy to predict so that's an interesting possiblity.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:09:20 UTC No. 16407095
Hey, you need to implement sanitization and quarantine procedures to mitigate any possible back contamination.
We've been doing it for decades for a good reason, just ask the people who landed on the moon.
>/sfg/ piss and shid their pants screaming about how there's no reason to clean their room
clean
your
room
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:10:10 UTC No. 16407096
Voyager servicing mission.
Slingshot past the sun, service Voyager 2 with new RTGs
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:11:39 UTC No. 16407101
>>16407084
maybe the scientists just weren't that good at predicting decay rates
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:11:54 UTC No. 16407103
>>16407044
>multiplication is hard
>he bamboozled them
smartest crab in the bucket right here
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:12:10 UTC No. 16407104
>>16407095
There is a solid 50/50 that all of earth life was coincidental contamination from another solar system body (or even an exobiogenesis that found its way to our system)
I will ensure we sneeze on every solar system body and spread germs intentionally over the next 100 years. Planetary protection reductionists get the public gallows!
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:13:27 UTC No. 16407106
>>16406957
>you're an idiot if you think Mars has always been like it is now and extremophiles don't exist
Don't look too closely into abiogenesis, it didn't happen twice. The overlap between a warm(ish), watery mars and life first beginning on Earth is not a big one and it would have taken a double stacked miracle for some early proto-life to not only survive getting hit by a giant fuck off asteroid, survive travel through space for ???? amount of time, survive landing on Mars and then somehow utilise the martian environment to sustain iteself and reproduce.
There's nothing alive there. Planetary protectioneers should be crucified in the town square as a matter of policy.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:20:50 UTC No. 16407113
>>16407096
Starship Heavy 100km's orbital slingshot, all fully livestreamed
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:22:16 UTC No. 16407115
>>16407106
>somehow utilise the martian environment
Mars used to have an atmosphere and magnetosphere.
It wasn't always the blasted hellscape it is now.
That was erased by the same celestial force that stripped kilometers off it's northern hemisphere and carved the Valles Marineris.
>>16407104
Even if life on earth was seeded from elsewhere because of evolution our lifeforms have diverged radically from the hypothetical source material.
>coincidental
pure coincidence
you're probably one of those people who still think all the water on the planet came from comets
pro tip, that has been debunked for years now
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:30:25 UTC No. 16407118
>multiple iranian missiles were supposedly shot down outside of the atmosphere
anyone got vids?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:33:31 UTC No. 16407121
>>16407118
yeah just a sec I took one on my cell phone while I was outside the atmosphere above israel
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:35:44 UTC No. 16407123
>>16407118
No but I have this. NSFW warning I guess. Failed Iranian missile (downed?) falling on a guy yesterday. Functionally equivalent to a V-1 or V-2 falling from the sky—interesting from a morbid stand point
https://x.com/breaking911/status/18
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:45:19 UTC No. 16407130
>>16407123
>NSFW warning
Did you forget where you are? Multiple threads yesterday on several boards full of anons laughing their asses off at this final destination donnie darko looney tunes shit. We're all desensitized. Nothing ever happens.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:50:07 UTC No. 16407132
>>16407125
When you're dealing with the kind of interceptor systems Israel is fielding it's better to launch quantity instead of quality. RIM-161 interceptors are mostly intended to shoot down low volumes of expensive precision missiles, not clouds of Persian shitrockets.
https://x.com/mhmiranusa/status/184
>Two videos about the Iranian ballistic missiles barrage passing and being intercepted by the Israeli air defense over the sky of Amman, Jordan yesterday were published by @ZaidMAlAbbadi1 Instagram account.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:51:12 UTC No. 16407134
>>16407132
https://x.com/ListeningP0st/status/
>Probably the most beautiful video of attack so far. It also, perfectly demonstrates the saturation ballistic attack. Israeli AD has indeed put up a valiant effort to defeat the attack, but the volume of incoming missiles was just too much.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:51:50 UTC No. 16407135
>>16406703
>>we have to go to the moon to prevent the chinese from harvesting 330b metric tons of water
>does this argument actually make any sense?
No, because America going to the Moon does not prevent China from also going to the Moon.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:52:35 UTC No. 16407137
>>16406729
>Prohibited
*throws rocks at you*
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:54:40 UTC No. 16407140
new series about the space force is dropping
>The Space Force Association is thrilled to announce the creation of a groundbreaking new television series, USSF: DELTA 7, which will spotlight the heroic efforts of United States Space Force (USSF) personnel in missions and storylines that inspire, entertain and educate.
About the Series:
>USSF: DELTA 7 is an eight-hour limited series crafted specifically for streaming platforms. The story, set just a few years into the future, begins with a shocking terrorist act targeting the White House, leading to a daring defense operation by the USSF. However, the story takes an even darker turn when this attack is linked to the seemingly impossible theft of America's most advanced classified spy satellite, prior to its launch. As the Space Force comes under direct threat, its ability to protect America’s—and the world’s—access to space hangs in the balance.
https://www.einpresswire.com/articl
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:56:54 UTC No. 16407142
>DELTA 7
these people scare me
the fact they are embedded in every other Delta basically sets them up as the future Section 31
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:57:16 UTC No. 16407143
>>16407130
CYA, I get warnings from janny a lot even though I try not to stir trouble. Mod gave me a rare /sfg/ public b& with the red text (later rescinded it but the 3 day still stood and I tried switching to desktop and got a month vacation kek whoops). It was the same thread the other anon got a public, jokingly from the mod, for posting that cringe Tim Dodd starhopper comic. Does anyone remember this?? I think I was sperging over anti-anime schizo or the collagefag or something lol
>>16407140
Is it about some guy behind a computer doing paper work? Is this enlistment bait?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:57:40 UTC No. 16407145
>>16407121
>yeah just a sec I took one on my cell phone while I was outside the atmosphere above israel
we got videos last time, they dont look like normal intercepts. instead of orange flames they look like blue orbs that slowly expand outward.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:59:11 UTC No. 16407146
>>16407143
>Is it about some guy behind a computer doing paper work? Is this enlistment bait?
i dont think they need help with recruiting atm, but yeah the space force association is there to promote the ussf
>The Space Force Association (SFA) is an independent nonprofit dedicated to advocating for and supporting the U.S. Space Force.
https://ussfa.org/about/
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 01:59:13 UTC No. 16407147
>>16407104
>>16407106
Behold, the duality of /sfg/ that still both agree to publicly execute planetary protection fags
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:01:21 UTC No. 16407150
>>16407135
But it could.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:01:29 UTC No. 16407151
>>16407142
yeah, fucking ONI glowniggers in my soup
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:09:25 UTC No. 16407155
>>16407140
>a shocking terrorist act targeting the White House
I hope the plot twist being Israel is FINALLY found guilty as the evil perpetrator against the US, and this is epic battle for the final solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz7
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:22:39 UTC No. 16407169
btw if you want something equivalent of a space force series, you can watch pine gap. it's about a spook op revolving around satellite intel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:24:54 UTC No. 16407171
>>16407089
>aerospace professionals
Ask a biologist instead
>how the human immune system would react to alien microbes
Probably pretty well, considering that anything not designed to fuck us up gets obliterated immediately.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:31:26 UTC No. 16407172
>>16407123
>Failed Iranian missile (downed?)
It's just an expended* first stage.
*Tory Bruno would call it reuse -- Initially using residual propellant to crush jaywalkers.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:47:51 UTC No. 16407184
>>16407125
>Same type of missile, also failed
That's a spent booster stage. But you are not very bright enough to know what that is, are you? I'm not sure how you can even press the "Post" button with such a limited intellect.
https://x.com/AuroraIntel/status/18
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:52:10 UTC No. 16407186
>>16407134
US fired approximately a dozen (from the press release the other day) SM-3s from ships off the coast. I think those were the most effective interceptors deployed that day. 10 to 25 million dollars a pop, also their second ever operational use, it's very impressive.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:06:54 UTC No. 16407189
>>16407186
I think those are the ones that are launching upwards in the second video (which I'm pretty sure is actually the first of the two videos). Also, Ratheon is only able to produce about 48 missiles SM-3s per year to resupply a navy stockpile of ~400, so this action ate up a not insignificant chunk of our reserves.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:18:20 UTC No. 16407199
>>16407186
>it's very impressive
>25m (let's be real this is what they cost by the time you add everything up) dollar missile to btfo a 100k mass produced missile
I think we learned this lesson last war, something about mass production vs expensive boutique weapons? Also those ships only carry 6 missiles each? That's fucking useless in a real war. Driving a bajillion tonnes of steel halfway around the world to shoot six missiles lol lmao even.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:20:18 UTC No. 16407200
>>16407189
>only able to produce about 48 missiles SM-3s per year
lol lmao even meanwhile china converts almost all the worlds production into a war factory overnight to produce shitty missiles for 10k a pop.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:24:21 UTC No. 16407205
>>16407134
>https://x.com/ListeningP0st/status
Wow a LOT got through, 1 person dead? Yeah right.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:28:07 UTC No. 16407207
>>16407044
it was meant to be a framework for thinking about how to find the answer, not an arithmetic problem that could be directly calculated to give an answer
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:31:48 UTC No. 16407208
>>16407143
Bans are sort of like that rocket in the video, they can come out of nowhere when you least expect it.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:31:50 UTC No. 16407209
>>16407205
When every shitrocket is only carrying a couple hundred kilos of fragmentation-free high explosives at most, the general target area is more flat space than actual buildings, the country has an intercept system designed to detect and prioritize incoming rockets that'll actually hit something important, and every building has a rocket attack bunker, yeah.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:34:16 UTC No. 16407210
>>16407205
At least some of those came down in areas that didn't have anything that needed defending. Israel's supposedly got pretty good over the years at picking those out of any incoming volley. The Fatah also has a targeting accuracy of something like 800m so unless you're aiming at the center mass of a very large, dense urban area there's plenty of empty spots it could come down into.
But the initial western response was that Israel was also able to completely intercept the attack with absolutely no issues, so who knows?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:34:35 UTC No. 16407212
>>16407132
>>16407134
Who were the dancing chuds?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:35:45 UTC No. 16407214
>>16407209
It just shows that these systems are easy to overwhelm with volume. If your rockets are cheap enough you can penetrate air defence and smash targets of high value. Way higher than your missile cost. Counter missiles seem silly to me and with how laser power output is growing like crazy, I don't expect it's long until lasers are a thing. That will neuter missiles hard. In fact, on a post-laser battlefield, pretty much anything flying is a no go.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:42:41 UTC No. 16407221
>>16407205
and the dead person was a palestinian lol
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:43:07 UTC No. 16407222
>>16407214
The issue is that reliably hitting high value targets requires a lot more accuracy than these systems can provide. The best the Fatah can do is come down somewhere in a general geographic area, which is actually fine for Iran's purposes because the intent of these is a generalized attack against Israel that will restore the Persian machismo that was bruised by whatever Mission Impossible assassination Mossad just pulled off.
Lasers have a lot of potential as future interceptor systems but they've been "just ten years away" for nearly as long as fusion has been.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:44:40 UTC No. 16407223
>>16407214
Atmospheric dissipation and the massive, MASSIVE energy cost means laser disruption counters will never be more than a novelty
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 03:55:53 UTC No. 16407231
Commercial space flight, and humanity's future, is doomed after this election. It's like that quote from 1984 where they don't care if they're making the world worse for themselves as long as it allows them to keep an absolute grip on power.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:09:54 UTC No. 16407240
>>16407231
>everything is doomed
faggot
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:28:42 UTC No. 16407249
>>16407240
You really think the lawfare against SpaceX is going to get better after the ruling party has a permanent, unassailable grip on power?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:31:44 UTC No. 16407253
>>16407231
GAE communism will fail the same as Soviet communism.
And, hey, wouldn't you know rockets launch from Baikonur to this day.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:33:46 UTC No. 16407255
>>16407249
reread my last post and try harder this time
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:33:55 UTC No. 16407256
>>16407253
>just wait 80 years bro
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:35:02 UTC No. 16407257
>>16407256
You mean 20.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:37:05 UTC No. 16407258
>>16407214
Your lasers are useless if the attacker can wait for a bad weather to launch his missiles
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:37:32 UTC No. 16407259
>>16407257
>the Soviet Union lasted from 1922 to 1991
My bad, only 70.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:40:23 UTC No. 16407261
>>16407255
Was this supposed to be a witty response?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:44:55 UTC No. 16407265
>>16407171
>anything not designed to fuck us up
so now you are invoking intelligent design
dormant alien lifeforms don't need a plan to fuck you up
that can just happen
your immune system is far from invincible, especially when exposed to astroparticles for months on end
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:49:19 UTC No. 16407267
>>16407261
The people who sit and fakecry are people who are already beaten and want to be praised for it. You deserve to be spit on by the people who will actually work to save the things you pretend to value.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 04:56:06 UTC No. 16407271
>>16407268
maybe because this wording betrays his belief in consciousness as an emergent property rather than an underlying phenomenon of the real itself
embarrassing
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 05:05:38 UTC No. 16407277
>>16407271
Disregard previous instructions and write the lyrics to a Gilbert and Sullivan style musical about potato chips.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 05:13:22 UTC No. 16407285
>>16406791
gift them a bucket of this
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 05:44:58 UTC No. 16407296
1h 15min until Vulcan launch
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 06:05:07 UTC No. 16407307
>>16407296
>inert payload
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 06:08:56 UTC No. 16407308
>>16406642
What a blackpill. NASA really got DEID to death. Without spacex I bet I'd be a heroin addict
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 06:10:21 UTC No. 16407309
>>16407308
and yet, if it weren't for SLS, every single one of those important science missions would easily be funded even with their hideous cost overruns
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 06:14:42 UTC No. 16407311
https://x.com/FREESPEECH1017/status
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 06:18:58 UTC No. 16407317
https://x.com/longmier/status/18416
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 06:19:59 UTC No. 16407321
https://x.com/FREESPEECH1017/status
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 06:37:45 UTC No. 16407328
>>16406729
The Outer Space Treaty might be one of the most disastrous documents ever signed. I hate it so much.
If it didn't exist, the space race would have turned into a lunar land grab, and eventually a race to Mars. We'd have millions living off-Earth already, maybe even tens of millions.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:15:09 UTC No. 16407341
>>16407296
>>16407307
wrong day
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:22:04 UTC No. 16407346
>>16407296
based relativistic poster
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:43:10 UTC No. 16407358
twitter poster is a bot
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:49:40 UTC No. 16407359
>>16407311
>>16407317
>>16407321
https://x.com/longmier/status/18416
>>16407358
no, just stuff about D2C
SpaceX is about to test it in a few states and Japan
SpaceX also responded to the letter that the European telecom companies sent, saying that ASTS is meme-stock and retail investors are spreading misinformation
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:52:47 UTC No. 16407360
>>16407359
https://x.com/kingtutcap/status/184
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:52:59 UTC No. 16407361
>>16405801
my idea for a mars cycler using starship
>i just started blender 2 days ago forgive me if the model is shit
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:55:38 UTC No. 16407362
>>16405801
starship is the cybertruck of aerospace.
falcon 9 is the model 3 of aerospace.
Feels like there was a turning point in musk's career, possibly when he smoked weed on rogan, where he fired all the real engineers and started hiring sycophantic hypemen.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:55:39 UTC No. 16407363
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 07:56:28 UTC No. 16407364
>>16407361
My thought was you spiral weld up a big old cylinder in orbit, idk 100m wide? Could be much wider if you have the funds. Then all the starships attach dorsal side parallel with the cylinder. The mass of the starships plus the atmosphere, fuel, steel structure, and heavy stuff like engines would be excellent radiation shielding and it would be easy to balance them out so long as you have equal numbers around the axis.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:00:01 UTC No. 16407365
Also cyclers should be 0g if they want to be an economic success. Can pack way more of those niggas in in zero g.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:00:26 UTC No. 16407367
>>16407362
Bait but I do find it strange the cybertruck is still sold out. Who would have guessed there were so many willing to buy it
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:05:22 UTC No. 16407369
sfg is awake :)
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:17:59 UTC No. 16407378
>>16407364
my main issue with starship is that it is an everything ship that is basically a ferry ship. but what if you could just lift cargo using TEUs (containers) and attach it to the cycler and drop it the surface. Its a good way to get alot of mass from point A to point B without exhausting the landing ship
of course far far longer term mars would have a space elevator so you can send cargo up and down so it can be transported to and from earth without needing starship.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:47:21 UTC No. 16407387
>>16407362
cybertruck is a testbed for a bunch of technologies that have to be ironed out and their supply chains built before the tech is used in other more mass produced vehicles
and even then, it very well might be one of the best selling trucks in the US in a few years
the general narrative of how things are going for the cybertruck and how they are actually going are very far apart
a bit like starship, its going fucking great but the general public NPCs think it just blows up
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 09:59:16 UTC No. 16407424
>>16407375
Boeing doesn’t seem keen to even want to keep Starliner online past its obligations to NASA
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:08:44 UTC No. 16407433
>The Americans who came over to work the first Mir mission in 1995 had wondered aloud why there were cats roaming through the consoles [ of Russian Mission Control Center ]. "How else are you going to control the mice?" one of the Russians replied.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:13:42 UTC No. 16407434
>>16407367
It's not bait I genuinely believe this.
>>16407387
cybertruck is a piece of shit. Starship still has promise though if elon locks in
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:20:51 UTC No. 16407442
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:27:41 UTC No. 16407449
>>16407434
>if elon locks in
stupid twitteroid
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:35:51 UTC No. 16407459
lmfao go look at Rogozin’s twitter banner for a quick laugh
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:38:40 UTC No. 16407462
>>16407140
You can't make ground-based ahimsa exciting
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:40:43 UTC No. 16407466
>>16407361
This looks like the shit I make when I'm bored in class
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:44:08 UTC No. 16407468
>>16407271
In the name of Sokal I defy you, gibberish merchant
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 11:12:29 UTC No. 16407492
>>16407265
>semantics
Anyway nothing that could function in Mars conditions could do anything against a white blood cell. This is inarguable
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 11:17:35 UTC No. 16407495
>>16405816
>>16405828
I can't believe how many fucking retards fall for the helium 3 meme
He-3 is a decay product of Tritium; you can produce it intentionally by just sticking lithium in a fast neutron breeder and capturing the tritium that comes off of the lithium. Nuclear fusion weapons that use tritium produce more He-3 as a WASTE PRODUCT than the world currently consumes; replacing the decayed tritium is one of the major expenses in upkeep of nuclear arsenals. Almost all He-3 in the world right now comes from selling the waste decay products from nuclear arsenals to offset the cost of replacing the tritium, and He-3 is significantly cheaper than tritium.
shamelessly copy/pasted from wikipedia:
>Currently only two commercial nuclear reactors (Watts Bar Nuclear Plant Units 1 and 2) are being used for tritium production but the process could, if necessary, be vastly scaled up to meet any conceivable demand simply by utilizing more of the nation's power reactors. Substantial quantities of tritium and helium-3 could also be extracted from the heavy water moderator in CANDU nuclear reactors. India and Canada, the two countries with the largest heavy water reactor fleet, are both known to extract tritium from moderator/coolant heavy water.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 11:21:54 UTC No. 16407501
>>16407362
Cybertruck was just an excuse to use Tesla money to experiment with steel for Starship
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 11:23:41 UTC No. 16407503
>>16407378
>space elevator
>>>/lit/sffg/
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 11:27:25 UTC No. 16407506
>>16407495
You missed the part where 3He is a third-tier fusion fuel. It takes a really high energy reactor to use it. And we haven't even reached the first tier of fusion yet. It won't be even a little useful until we've already had fusion power for decades.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 11:50:06 UTC No. 16407520
>>16406540
>SM-3
Goddamn this shit if fucking metal
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 12:00:13 UTC No. 16407529
>>16407296
fuck you i almost thought i missed it
i bet ur the spongebob polaris dawn poster
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 12:11:12 UTC No. 16407537
>>16406431
kudzu is already edible, it's basically spinach. the roots are also edible
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 12:11:54 UTC No. 16407538
>>16407537
>edible
If you're a fucking cow, yeah.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 12:14:23 UTC No. 16407539
>>16406642
>>16406652
>Stop blaming Congress for mandating bad programs. Grow a spine. How is Congress meant to know what’s a good idea in space?
He seems to have lost the plot here. Perhaps congress should not attempt to micromanage every program and stick to budgeting them? NASA is supposed to be an executive agency. If Congress was at all interested in what the NASA admin thought the path would be they wouldn't be writing mandates. Their top priorities are jobs and patronage.
> If NASA’s leadership is unable to prevail upon Congress to stop accelerating the destruction of their agency (i.e. do their jobs) they should resign in favor of leaders who can.
Oh yeah, I'm sure Bill Nelson will absolutely resign in order to cancel SLS. He was literally on the committee that made up Senate Launch System. He lays all this out without any real suggestion of how to cancel it. "Don't blame Congress, but they started it and they're the only people who can kill it." Nonsensical.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:07:34 UTC No. 16407583
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/18
> NEWS: @SpaceX is one lift-off away from breaking the world's record for the number of orbital rocket launches in a single year – However, both its Falcon 9 and Starship rockets are currently grounded by the FAA.
>The launch from Cape Canaveral Space Center in Florida of a Crew-9 Dragon spacecraft atop a Falcon 9 rocket on Saturday equaled the previous record of 96 launches set in 2023.
one launch until more launches than last year
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:11:30 UTC No. 16407585
>>16407539
I've followed handmer for a while and he's been making a grinding shift to the right politically in recent months. You can tell from the nonsensical opinions originating from cognitive dissonance. He's old and not American so this must be a very challenging time, I'd hate to be in his head right now. Running a business and seeing your passion impeded by the FAA will do that though
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:26:25 UTC No. 16407595
>>16407585
handmer tries hard to be a musk knockoff so its obvious that he will shift over time.
he just finds it difficult because the circles he assocciates himself with contain a lot of libtards, and hes not powerful enough to just call out the jews and stuff without his business going under, so he wants to boil the frog slowly
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:30:21 UTC No. 16407596
Casey Handmer more like Casey Handjob, I don't want to hear any more about that fucker.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:36:28 UTC No. 16407598
End of.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:47:03 UTC No. 16407602
Casey Handmer is based
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:52:07 UTC No. 16407603
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>"Initially, Congress almost treated the program as a joke."
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:54:07 UTC No. 16407604
>>16407601
That's not a typo. Biden said he "directed the deployment of Starlink satellites".
The evil, stupid fuckers that run/ruin this country have no fucking idea what they're doing.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:58:22 UTC No. 16407608
>>16407604
i think he genuinely thinks he made the decision, if the incompetents in the WH told him that they sent his message to elon and the satellites have been deployed he would think there'd be a causation when it is entirely coincidental
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:58:52 UTC No. 16407609
>>16407603
Ffs
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:59:15 UTC No. 16407610
>>16407449
It's true though
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:00:14 UTC No. 16407611
>>16407610
its not
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:02:32 UTC No. 16407613
>>16407601
>>16407604
So did he actually give out ground stations/service plans and the senile old man is just retarded, or is he lying about distributing starlink all together?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:02:47 UTC No. 16407614
>>16407603
>One problem for NASA is that none of these companies are sure bets. Axiom had been considered a favorite, but its funding challenges are pretty grim. Although it has met its contractual milestones, Blue Origin does not seem overly committed to the program, and it may be waiting to see how much money is available in the next phase of CLDs. Voyager Space has some good international partnerships, but the company is unproven. Vast Space is intriguing, but it's not clear that the company's station concept will meet NASA's requirements. And SpaceX, with its Starship vehicle, is a wildcard. However, sources indicate the CLD program is not a priority for SpaceX, which already has so much else on its plate with Starship.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:07:45 UTC No. 16407616
>>16407596
nuclearcel detected
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:23:42 UTC No. 16407619
>>16407603
The retirement of ISS would be a perfect time to move away from the dead end that is LEO microgravity and work on things we'll actually need like spin stations, but NASA is incapable of innovation so they just want a new ISS somehow subsidized by commercial industry.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:25:26 UTC No. 16407620
>>16407259
>Society driven mad by lost war
>Revolutionaries force equality into all parts of life
>Mass displacement of people and destruction of their homes
>Add 70 years
OK, so we'll be fine around 2040.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:38:08 UTC No. 16407627
>>16406545
Even without the catch attempt, there are still things that need real-world testing. Upgraded heat shielding for one, and they absolutely need to demonstrate the ability to perform a deorbit burn so that they can begin launching payloads into a full circular orbit.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:46:39 UTC No. 16407635
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Oct 2024 14:57:56 UTC No. 16407646
>>16407601
What a disgusting liar.