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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16407634

Vulcan Cert2 - edition

previous >>16405801

Anonymous No. 16407639

>>16407634
Why is the paint job so splotchy?

Anonymous No. 16407647

Gost blus :DDD

Anonymous No. 16407655

sfg is so dead..................................

Anonymous No. 16407656

>>16407655
It's over

Anonymous No. 16407657

When's the next Starship launch?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16407659

Casey Handjob is a cuck and his wife bangs black bvlls while he larps as elron muskard

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Anonymous No. 16407660

>>16407647
I prefer contractor-plus.

That's where you add a contractor for every contractor.

Anonymous No. 16407662

>>16407655
Launch-starved

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Anonymous No. 16407666

Oh -- again with this stugatz.

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Anonymous No. 16407670

"Hey kids, that's some exciting space mission isn't it?"

Anonymous No. 16407678

>>16407647
Absolutely insane how we've just been writing blank checks for the past 50 years.

Anonymous No. 16407684

IFT-5 in less than 2 weeks!

Anonymous No. 16407685

>>16407634
You have 100 ton payload and 10000 km/s delta v, what would be the payload and what would you do with it?

Anonymous No. 16407687

>>16407685
Tungsten darts and drop it on the FAA

Anonymous No. 16407689

>>16407685
FAA HQ, straight into the sun

Anonymous No. 16407690

>>16407685
>payload
congressmen and senators
>what would you do with it
launch to Venus

Anonymous No. 16407694

>>16407666
Intentionally launching space junk to high energy orbits. Impressive money waster! Also throwing away reusable engines and structures, and depending on bottle rockets for the bulk of thrust, like this is 1500s China.
Oh and by the way, ULA is still for sale but absolutely nobody wants it... maybe he should talk about that? Because this man looks very very tired, demoralized, and wants to retire on a his private luxury ranch and his many beach houses around the world. He doesn't need more shekels, he needs to disappear into the hidden shadow world of disgraced rich people.

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Anonymous No. 16407695

>>16407634
BREAKING NEWS! FELON HUSK CAN ONLY COUNT TO 20! HE IS NOT AN ENGINEER I REPEAT HE IS NOT AN ENGINEER

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Anonymous No. 16407696

https://x.com/_SpaceWeather_/status/1841820289748890091
>Major X9.05 flare from sunspot region 3842. Follow live on https://spaceweather.live/l/flare
>First look at the solar storm produced by the X9-class solar flare—the event is still in progress and it’s too early to say anything about storm intensity and timing, but combined with the solar storm currently on the way to Earth, things look very favorable for aurora viewers as we head into late October 4 and 5. More on this soon.

https://x.com/halocme/status/1841862348346421435
>MOST POWERFUL FLARE IN SOLAR CYCLE 25. It was X9.0 in GOES X-ray measurement. It was quite eruptive, leaving a coronal wave. The eruption/CME seemed to result from magnetic reconnection rather than ideally from a pre-existing flux rope. It may come in less than 3 days.

Looking right down the barrel

>>16407689
The sun will come for the FAA

Anonymous No. 16407698

>>16407694
There are several groups that are very interested in buying. The problem is that the actual value of the company is several billion less than what Boeing and Lockheed want for it

Anonymous No. 16407702

>>16407698
Name me their "top 10" elite dream team engineers who are still SO committed to this shitty company, they would happy go through the hell of a corporate acquisition?
Thats right, they have nothing but old ass, has-been boomers who were about to retire anyway, everyone else bailed for greener pastures, not about to not destroy their career. Making the company literately worthless, aside from their real estate on launch sites, corrupt ins with congress, and already signed contracts.
The field of rocketry about to take off and explode, in a good way. Nobody wants to work for a constant paycheck at a demoralizing, go nowhere company. Embarrassing.

Anonymous No. 16407703

https://alaskapublic.org/2024/10/02/satellite-internet-shakes-up-rural-alaska-schools-amid-rising-costs/

For some reason, I just never thought of Starlink being used by schools

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Anonymous No. 16407705

So what do we think about the October 13-15th NOTAMS? Will we see a non-catch launch of Starship, or did the FAA give a special license?

Anonymous No. 16407711

>>16407705
My vote is non-catch water landing of the booster followed by in-orbit demonstration of a deorbit burn. That would allow them to begin launching useful payloads into a proper LEO, at least.

Anonymous No. 16407715

>>16407702
Okay, one, why are you so weirdly angry about this? And two, none of that actually matters to what I was talking about.

Anonymous No. 16407718

>>16407715
fuck oldspace

Anonymous No. 16407719

>>16407705
Don’t they still need need a new license because the fags at the faa decided the heatshield change requires a license change?

Anonymous No. 16407722

I didn't realize the ULA sniper was a legitimate theory

Anonymous No. 16407723

>>16407719
There appears to have been some pressure from both congress and the military following the lawsuit and hearing.

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>>16407719
>Elon wearing a new shirt? We need another 3 months to LOICENS!

Anonymous No. 16407725

>>16407715
The only thing they have to "sell" is useless, outdated technology, and a bunch of dead weight employees, some signed contracts with US Mil, NASA, and Amazon. After a sale, these contracts should be voided out anyway, that wasn't what the customers signed up for. So really, all they have of value are some facilities, that would need to get extensively rebuilt for anything modern anyway, better for a real company with promise to just seek a greenfield facility and launch pad.
Really... Tory has nothing much to sell here, they bled the company to death.

Anonymous No. 16407726

>>16407719
>heatshield
No, the issue is the hot staging ring and the probability of hitting le fishe.

Anonymous No. 16407727

>>16407685
I think with that kind of launch mass you could do a very neat asteroid redirect mission straight into the FAA.

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Anonymous No. 16407735

https://x.com/VardaSpace/status/1841843462980645340

https://payloadspace.com/op-ed-standardized-launch-reentry-regs-will-support-a-growing-industry/

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Anonymous No. 16407739

>>16407735
>Think of it this way: a traffic officer checks your driving safety via standard safety metrics—the speed limit, functioning tail lights, and so on. The officer does not analyze your probability of causing a casualty via a bottom-up analysis that includes your particular route of travel, the number of kids on the sidewalk, and the material of the buildings on the street every time you go for a drive.
>With a pre-approved standard population map, each applicant wouldn’t need to generate their own population exposure analysis, and FAA analysts could save the time currently spent reviewing each one individually. A standard population map could even have a safety margin built into it, like assuming a Ja Rule concert every night.

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Anonymous No. 16407741

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1841841639758705001

Anonymous No. 16407743

>>16407725
>some signed contracts with US Mil, NASA, and Amazon
These are actually pretty valuable. They're just not worth as much as Boeing would like to get for them.

>a bunch of dead weight employees
These are also pretty valuable, but a lot of them have been leaving for other companies recently so the argument that it's worth buying ULA to get the team isn't as solid as it was 12 months ago

>After a sale, these contracts should be voided out anyway
That is exactly the opposite of how contracts work

>So really, all they have of value are some facilities
This is one thing that ULA 100% does not have. The launch complexes at SLC-41 and SLC-6 are owned by the Space Force and rented by ULA. After the last Delta IV Heavy launch from SLC-37 the USAF inked a new lease that signed that complex over to SpaceX without any involvement from ULA. They did the same with SLC-6 at Vandenberg.

>they bled the company to death
They didn't even do that! Boeing/Lockheed just bet on the market remaining the same as it was in 2010 and when the market changed they were unable to adapt because they couldn't agree to invest in a strategy that the other might profit more from.

Do you actually know anything about what you're so angry at?

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Anonymous No. 16407744

>>16407741

Anonymous No. 16407745

>Starship has potential to give US military capability to overturn MAD strategic landscape
>Government so parasitical and corrupt they cant even step aside to achieve strategic dominance

Shiny stones

Anonymous No. 16407749

>>16407725

>The only thing they have to "sell" is...

Team Evil has a large backlog of government missions. That's a valuable asset.

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Anonymous No. 16407750

>>16407741
https://x.com/JeffGreason/status/1841869517460537506

Eager Space said something similar in one of the videos but I guess its a matter of perspective (was SLS a way for NASA to try to distract Congress so they can do commercial crew, or was commercial crew a token gesture by Congress to try to decrease the criticism)
is there really that big of a difference? seems to me certain people at NASA and congresscritters are basically fused at the hip and then you have people in both places doing their own thing, being horrified at whats happening but not having enough power to do much about it
the only congresspeople that care about space are the ones that have oldspace industries in their states (perhaps increasingly new space lately), the rest don't give a single shit because they don't think space matters

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Anonymous No. 16407751

Which chinese rocket start up will be the first to do reuse?

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Anonymous No. 16407752

https://x.com/tobyliiiiiiiiii/status/1841878451877511305
>Special look at Axiom Space Station hardware:
>Axiom Space Co-founder Kam Ghaffarian recently shared a photo of the space station’s Hab One module.
>The hull will be soon shipped to Texas before its interior and ECLSS systems are fitted.

Anonymous No. 16407754

>>16407752
So are they actually going to launch? Heard they were going bankrupt recently

Anonymous No. 16407755

>>16407735
it's clearly not just spacex who are getting sick of this bullshit.

Anonymous No. 16407756

>>16407743
>After a sale, these contracts should be voided out anyway
>That is exactly the opposite of how contracts work
I think there is a STRONG argument to be made in court, a change of ownership and management to an unknown absolutely changes the reliability, risk, and schedule certainty that these entities signed with ULA for in the first place. If it becomes a different company, gutted and restructured, with the usually experience mass exodus, this constitutes a breech of contract, and an easy out for those who signed. Its just a lesser value product than what was promised.
I get where you're coming from, and I am not attacking you, but this situation still stinks like shit and if I was a signed customer, I would try to get the fuck out by any means possible, thats just common sense.
ULA should just auction off their few valuable assets for cash, fold with dignity (if that is still possible), and call it a day.

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Anonymous No. 16407759

Chad Chinese Village girl rocket enthusiast
(let me get a whiff of that Dinitrogen tetroxide)

vs

Virgin Onions rocket enthusiast far away as possible
(even the Mexicans can get closer)

Will they scrub Heavy Falcon for the 10th?

Anonymous No. 16407762

>>16407759
based chads get cancer from inhaling carcinogenic compounds.

Anonymous No. 16407763

>>16407754
They're praying that the modules pass inspection without issue, the suit team is struggling to make payments

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Anonymous No. 16407769

build rockets that can outperform Starship

Anonymous No. 16407772

>>16407769
>fully expendable

Anonymous No. 16407773

>>16407769
to do that you'd have to start by copying starship and then making it better than starship.

Anonymous No. 16407774

>>16407769
wtf is that engine configuration?

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Anonymous No. 16407775

Space Stations
Which of the proposed stations do you think is going to actually end up being the next to go up into orbit? The Orbital Reef thing likely isn't going to happen by virtue of who is behind it and Gateway is probably a scam. What's actually going to get inserted? Is Axiom going to make good on their "first commercial space station" promise? Will Starlab make it through the oldspace porkbarrel gauntlet? Will the ISS deorbiting usher in an era of Chinese space dominance?

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Anonymous No. 16407776

https://x.com/ashleevance/status/1841859178748629436

Anonymous No. 16407777

sex with starship

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Anonymous No. 16407778

total old space death

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>>16407769
It's just that easy in rocketry.

Anonymous No. 16407780

>>16407778
does that account for failure rate?

Anonymous No. 16407781

>>16407777
Quads of lewding

Anonymous No. 16407782

>>16407780
what failure rate?

Anonymous No. 16407791

Let's make this background mumbling pay shall we sci? Their fucking centerpiece ornament destined for the failure of a species for a few idiots to tip toe on mars briefly.

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Anonymous No. 16407792

https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1841873534903050382

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Anonymous No. 16407793

>>16407792
https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/spacex-starship-launch-texas-november-starbase-19810663.php
>The FAA confirmed Monday that SpaceX has not indicated it wants to fly the fifth mission under the old profile. However, if SpaceX changed its mind, it would have to notify the FAA at least 60 days before, according to federal regulations.
>The 60-day window applies to all commercial space operators, the FAA said.
>It’s meant “to identify if there is additional work that needs to be done to support the upcoming mission,” the agency's spokesman said. “For instance, it may be necessary for the FAA to coordinate a policy or payload review across various federal government agencies that could take several weeks to complete.”

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16407795

>>16407793
FAA niggers actually need to be put up against a wall and shot.

Anonymous No. 16407797

>>16407792
Total earther death

Anonymous No. 16407798

>>16407792
Ready for SpaceX's Special launching operation.

Anonymous No. 16407803

>>16407792
Ignore FAA rulings, do not answer the phone for the FAA, do not open your front door to the FAA, do not pay FAA-originating fines, ignore the very existence of the FAA and act as though they no longer exist.

Anonymous No. 16407805

>>16407745
Government is always the big bad threat to humanity

Anonymous No. 16407806

>>16407756
A company being bought out could be an opportunity to renegotiate those contracts or seek some kind of exit, but it's nowhere near as easy you'd like it tot be. If you buy a company you also buy its contractual obligations. Those contracts already have exit and failure clauses already and those are designed to be quite painful so the contractor can't walk away on a whim. If things worked like that we'd have an endless corporate circle jerk of shell companies buying each other out and restructuring" just to dodge obligations that had turned slightly unpleasant. A buyout and restructuring isn't a breach of contract either, and it's in the buyers best interests not to Bain Capital the company in such a way that they can't fulfill those contracts, since if they can't launch those payloads then the much more painful failure clauses go off in their face.

The most valuable things ULA has are their launch contract for Kuiper (maybe worth $10 billion total if Berger's sources are accurate), their government launch obligations ($4.5B for NSSL-2 and probably about the same for the upcoming NSSL-3), and their staff, none of which can just be auctioned off.

ULA doesn't have a future after NSSL-3 runs its course in 2029, but they can absolutely ride their status quo until then.

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Anonymous No. 16407807

Humanity will never achieve interplanetary status.

Anonymous No. 16407808

What's this about the sun sneezing on us again?

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Anonymous No. 16407809

>>16407634
If they would just fix the teeth they'd have the perfect mascot

Anonymous No. 16407811

>>16407808
the sun sneezed on us
lots of x-rays
it's mildly exciting

Anonymous No. 16407812

>>16407792
Why are they so god damn lazy?

Anonymous No. 16407816

>>16407809
those are lips

Anonymous No. 16407817

>>16407603
Let the free market decide. Fuck NASA

Anonymous No. 16407821

>>16407817
>free market space stations
There's no money in it. It's not like Mars where you can startup a local industrial base. Space is nothing and it's expensive to get to.

Anonymous No. 16407822

>>16407809
It is great how Tory is seen here mimmicking the pursed lips of the anthropomorphic Vulcan rocket standing next to him. Twinsies!

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Anonymous No. 16407824

check this out

Anonymous No. 16407825

>>16407817
The free market will decide that theres no market for space stations.
It's currently in the same bootstrap paradox as reusable launch was before spacex, space station viability is incredibly sensitive to launch costs so no ones making space stations because theres no cheap enough launcher for them because theres no space station to go to because theres no cheap enough launcher...

Anonymous No. 16407826

>>16407824
smart reuse

Anonymous No. 16407827

>>16407821
Ahem...FUCK NASA AND LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE. IF THERE'S NO BUSINESS CASE OR PASSIONATE AUTIST INTERESTED, THEN IT SHOULDNT HAPPEN

Anonymous No. 16407828

>>16407825
I should say crewed launcher to head off the obvious criticism.

Anonymous No. 16407829

>>16407817
>fuck NASA
With that attitude, we'll end up with Tiangong being the only station in the orbit. The free market is not always the answer.

Anonymous No. 16407832

>>16407829
No. NASA is the biggest hurdle to American boots on the Moon. Their management, culture, work ethic, and decisions have been horrendous for decades

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Anonymous No. 16407835

https://x.com/BellikOzan/status/1841898608666571135

Anonymous No. 16407837

>>16407775
Vast's Haven 1? It's pretty simple and can be launched by falcon 9/heavy (I forget which) so it'll probably get up first, it's just a shame it's a test station and won't be up there for very long iirc

Anonymous No. 16407841

>>16407793

So those "five permits" approved in advance actually weren't. That's real cute.

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Anonymous No. 16407842

>>16407824
https://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/1841888364837965855
>As we await the HOS Ridgewind to come back from its 2nd Booster 11 salvage operation, I thought you might find these images interesting.
>These show the aftermath of section of Booster 11 being hoisted out of the water but from a new angle. Also, we see close ground shots of parts of the aft end at Massey’s (near Starbase) undergoing inspection.
>I have heard at least 26 of the Raptors have been recovered but they are trying to get all 33 and what they can salvage from the thrustpuck.
>Curious to see what all they bring back to port after the 2nd salvage mission … likely this weekend or early next week!

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>>16407842

Anonymous No. 16407849

>>16407793
Fucking gut this organization, my God

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Anonymous No. 16407850

Powerful.

Anonymous No. 16407853

>>16407850
Who?

Anonymous No. 16407856

>>16407829
Sitting around in LEO is not a goal in itself. The point was to get some experience with people living and working in microgravity, which we had enough of decades ago. We know it's not livable long term.
10x more important now to figure out what different fractions of Earth gravity do to the body, esp Moon and Mars level.That means getting to the lunar surface for longer stays or simulating with artificial gravity stations.
NASA, though, is stuck with its inertia wanting to do the same things over and over, and drags others down with it (eg CLD program).

Anonymous No. 16407860

>>16407837
I have the opposite view. Having a station that has an expiration date in years instead of decades like the ISS is a good thing. More opportunities for new designs to go up.

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Anonymous No. 16407861

>>16407696
>twitter
fucking pleb

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Anonymous No. 16407866

its called shaping the narrative. he's trying to normalize the idea that starlink is a government asset. there have been many loud calls by the left to nationalize spacex. this could be a step towards that.

Anonymous No. 16407870

>>16407866
>its called shaping the narrative
It's called lying.

Anonymous No. 16407871

>>16407866
>nationalization
nonsense, it's just politician twisting the facts to make himself look good

Anonymous No. 16407872

>>16407866
Thank you Joe. See they arent slowing SpaceX down

Anonymous No. 16407873

>>16407866
>loud calls by the left to nationalize spacex

but only that company
NOT g**gl* or Norfolk Southern OKAY

Anonymous No. 16407889

>>16407856
I think the original purpose was to be where astronauts transferred from the shuttle to the moon or Mars vehicle. I can't believe fifty years of manned spaceflight has all been in service of a bus stop to nowhere

Anonymous No. 16407901

>>16407866
It’s called being a walking corpse that can only string together a complete sentence on a good day and flubs every other word.

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Anonymous No. 16407904

>>16407792
>>16407793
Fucking christ, Elon just move to China, the han deserve to win against this shit.

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Anonymous No. 16407908

>>16407866
>Joe Biden himself he has deployed satellites

Anonymous No. 16407915

>>16407792
>>16407793
Sounds like there's some shitflinging going on behind closed doors between the FAA and the Coast Guard.

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>>16407634
rocket fuel is a psyops

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>>16407908
Where's that pic that has "Jeff Bezos, 0 tons to LEO"? We need to add "Joe Biden, 300kg to LEO"

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Anonymous No. 16407935

>>16407932
Can you believe boeing has access to one of these things and STILL can’t get starliner to work

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Anonymous No. 16407937

>>16407935
These crafts are able to travel time. Not to mention who owns boeing.

Anonymous No. 16407941

can the UFO schizos fuck off

Anonymous No. 16407943

>>16407941
This, we need our safe space.

Anonymous No. 16407947

Was this guy's SLS rant posted here yet? https://idlewords.com/

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Anonymous No. 16407949

>>16407941
Just post this, it drives them crazy

Anonymous No. 16407950

>>16407941
IPO
Identified posting object.
It's fag residue
And it's coming from you

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Anonymous No. 16407956

>>16407660
>that webm
And anons here make fun of ariana 6 for being a tax money scam...

Anonymous No. 16407958

>>16407941
sorry chud, electrogravitics is the future of spaceflight. Chemical propulsion’s days are numbered.

Anonymous No. 16407964

>>16407956
well it is
it's just that Europeans are poor and thus have less money to steal from their governments

Anonymous No. 16407971

>>16407964
Eh, depends on the euro nation.
You have to understand that a few nations in europe are pretty much funding the entire thing while the rest are greece tier poorfags.

Anonymous No. 16407972

>>16407956
>Ariane 6 MAIN elements of industrial organization
I assume it would get worse with a more detailed breakdown, but all they needed was enough detail to get everyone's national flag on the jpg. That's the important part.

Anonymous No. 16407975

>>16407972
I was going to make a reply to tell you it's like airbus, it's a multi nation company but they make it work, but comparing the shitshow that is ariana to airbus would be a insult.

Anonymous No. 16407976

>>16407949
who is this guy?

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Anonymous No. 16407977

>>16407971
France, Germany, and Italy contribute 60% of the ESA budget. The UK comes in 4th with just under 9%, which is wild given how completely uninterested their government usually is in space. Everyone else is contributing pocket change.

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Anonymous No. 16407978

>>>16407603
Manned LEO is a waste of time
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-study-provides-new-findings-on-protecting-astronauts-bones-through-diet-and-exercise/

Anonymous No. 16407981

>>16407977
How is belgium funding more then the netherlands?

Anonymous No. 16407982

>>16407978
And you are a waste of oxygen.

Anonymous No. 16407990

>>16407958
call me when you manage to test something on orbit

Anonymous No. 16407995

>>16407809
>>16407816
>>16407822
You're such a boring faggot

Anonymous No. 16407996

>>16407981
It's a bit of a head scratcher. I thought it might be because Belgium just has more economic interest in space activities, but when you compare their economies Belgium's space sector is only about half the size of the Netherlands'.

Anonymous No. 16408001

Is it just me or has the overton window on SLS and the FAA shifted in the past couple of weeks, feels like this was a long time in the making

Anonymous No. 16408002

>>16407978
It'll be funny to see the pie graph for expenditure when the Mars city is fully self sufficient. If you include the full ISS price in attributing studying how humans fare for a few months in microgravity, then figuring out how humans would handle the trip there would be some double digit percent of the entire cost. Very funny

Anonymous No. 16408005

>>16408001
Things are shifting all over the board, and very little of it in a pleasant direction. A lot of discontent and distrust of government that was simmering in the background is starting to find more openly hostile expressions.

Anonymous No. 16408008

>>16407922
i'm gonna give your schizopost a pity-(you)

Anonymous No. 16408012

>>16407978
more rocket bullying pls

Anonymous No. 16408015

>>16407995
crocodilian hands typed this post

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>>16408012

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>>16408012

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Anonymous No. 16408023

>preparation for artemis ii stacking
oh shit
>NET -7985 hours
wtf

Anonymous No. 16408025

>>16408023
don't care, my good will for this piece of shit dried up a few months ago.

Anonymous No. 16408026

>>16408005
>All over the board
I mean it's not just here, seems like the space journo's are now getting fed up
>>16408023
Artemis 2 is NET Sept. 2025

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Anonymous No. 16408027

>>16408023
Hey, less than one year!

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Anonymous No. 16408031

>>16407725
Tory has he's "not done yet" with Vulcan, exciting times ahead

Anonymous No. 16408034

>>16408002
>constructing, operating, and reaching one(1) Starship-sized station will have cost some significant fraction of the entirety of Mars colonization
The normalfag mind couldn't possibly comprehend the paradigm shift that's coming

Anonymous No. 16408036

>>16407978
>"nooo, we can't just go to other celestial bodies, we first need to know how the human body would fare in those conditions!1!"
>spends 50 years not doing either of those things anyways
>zero spinhabs or centrifugal gravity modules launched up to this date
well

Anonymous No. 16408039

>>16408031
the funniest part is bruno is not an idiot so you know he willingly omitted that starship can just use the spare mass to launch the payload with a kickstage that will perform any of these "high energy" designs.

Anonymous No. 16408042

>>16408039
they're all scared shitless anon; starship's complexity is their only saving grace

Anonymous No. 16408048

>>16408036
Can't believe that in 67 years of spaceflight, artificial gravity was only properly tested in space only once, during Gemini 11 in 1966, when they tethered two spacecrafts together and made they spin a bit, generating 0.00015 g. That's it, can't find anything else up to this day.

Anonymous No. 16408049

>>16408042
i wasn't very aware of it at first, but i've noticed an uptick in panic from common EDSers as well as spacex "competition" every time starship checks another "likely impossible" hardware requirement off the list.
first it was whether or the 2nd stage flip idea would even work, then it was whether a 1st stage of such thrusting magnitude wouldn't just destroy itself, then it was starship's unique method of staging, then it was reaching orbit.
re-entry not working was one of their last lines of defence, after this the only thing copers have left to hide behind are the catch mechanism and in-space refilling (that last one is so weak it's hardly even worth mentioning.

every time they lose another goalpost, and they're running out of places to move it, the panic is real and visible.

Anonymous No. 16408051

>>16408027
Maybe if SLSchan stopped throwing away her shoes every time she goes out I'd actually feel bad

Anonymous No. 16408055

>>16408031
>>16408039
The funny part is how Tory is willing to post marketing material that blatantly lies about the capabilities of his competitors rockets

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Anonymous No. 16408056

>>16408051
Also, she's not cheap.

Anonymous No. 16408057

>>16408039
This and pretending in-orbit-refueling is impossible, even though he has hyped it on twitter with for ULA with ZERO personal timeframes.

Anonymous No. 16408061

>>16408039
FLYING A KICKSTAGE IN THE PAYLAOD BAY IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE. SHUTTLE NEVER DID IT.

Anonymous No. 16408063

>>16407792
>>16407793
it makes me unfathomably mad that humanity is being held back from the stars by some powertripping dolores umbridge type bureaucrats

Anonymous No. 16408064

>>16408001
>SLS
It was always shit.
>FAA
SpaceX vs FAA public fight on going. Biden admin castrating children and holding everyone back for politics.

Anonymous No. 16408073

>>16408061
Shuttle didn't do anything that would remind anyone that a normal rocket would be better by every metric.

Anonymous No. 16408075

>>16408026
It's not just space topics or space journos. Bad disaster response after the hurricane and poor immigration policy have taken the zeitgeist from disgusted with the government to openly hostile towards it. Coverage of Artemis' disastrous progress is getting a boost from those overall trends. It's no longer considered impolite to say openly that the government is doing a bad enough job that they should be made to stop.

Anonymous No. 16408077

>>16408055
Tory is acutally one of the more honest ppl (infographic aside) he acknowledges Starship will work. Some people are just in utter denial: https://x.com/search?q=from%3Aspaceguy5%20starship&src=typed_query&f=live

Anonymous No. 16408082

>>16408061
The Shuttle did in fact have and use a kick stage out if its payload bay.

Anonymous No. 16408084

>>16408082
ONLY SRB KICK STAGES BUDDY.

Anonymous No. 16408086

>>16408061
Galileo

Anonymous No. 16408091

>>16408082
>At launch, the orbiter and probe together had a mass of 2,562 kg
Solid kick stages are fine for accelerating tiny probes but you're going to need a proper cryo stage for big spacecrafts
That will come much much later and is more complicated than people think.

Anonymous No. 16408100

>>16408086
>Galinegro
AHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous No. 16408102

>>16408023
Oh no no no SLS bros

Anonymous No. 16408106

>>16407835
Death to institutional bureaucrats who see power as their goal and budgets as part of their fiefdom.

Anonymous No. 16408109

>>16408084
>>16408091
>>16408100
>you can’t just put a kick stage in a payload bay
>AAAAHHH STOP PUTTING KICK STAGES IN YOUR PAYLOAD BAY!!!one!

Anonymous No. 16408110

>>16408049
Just can't wait until HLS touches down safely with the first crew, maybe then they'll finally get it

Anonymous No. 16408114

>>16408110
I cant wait until it smashes into the lunar regolith and makes a plume visible with an amateur telescope

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Anonymous No. 16408116

>>16408109
No

Anonymous No. 16408124

>>16407711
>lauching payloads
stfu, it's not anywhere near the top of their priority list. oh and the only orbit they can launch from boca chica is not where they need lots of starlinks.

Anonymous No. 16408125

>>16408114
"again"

Anonymous No. 16408128

>>16408027
Yeah right

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Anonymous No. 16408143

>Peak plasma density from the 1st flare arrives during the daytime
I just want another Aurora bros

Anonymous No. 16408146

>>16407976
>>16407949
No idea but he looks like a faggot

Anonymous No. 16408156

>>16407949
Kinda handsome ngl

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Anonymous No. 16408159

>>16408039
>bruno is not an idiot
Maybe not an idiot, but he's clearly well out of his depth when it comes to Starship.

Anonymous No. 16408164

>>16408143
mutt or EU daytime?
i want another aurora too but muttgluttons have been hogging them all

Anonymous No. 16408167

>>16408164
They steal all the eclipses too

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Anonymous No. 16408172

>>16408167
>>16408164
All of space belongs to us

Anonymous No. 16408173

>>16407809
why does that rocket have such a malicious grin?

Anonymous No. 16408180

>>16407842
the thumbnail made it look like there was a box of family size honey nut cheerios in the foreground

Anonymous No. 16408186

>>16408180
haha :)

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>>16408031

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>>16407655
>sfg is so dead
Good.

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>>16408012

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whats wrong with this thread

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Anonymous No. 16408217

>>16408213
It turns out i have a lot of rocket bully photos like anon requested.
Think this is the end
>>16408012

Anonymous No. 16408220

Wanted to update everyone yet again that I hate the FAA and also FEMA since it seems they've spent all their funding on immigrants

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Anonymous No. 16408224

>>16408215
Don't take this the wrong way, but you're one of those mediocre artists who could benefit immensely from learning ComfyUI, especially now that FLUX has hit the scene. Just saying.

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Anonymous No. 16408225

On this day:
Shuttle Atlantis flew for the first time, 1985 (39 years ago)
Wally Schirra launched on a six orbit flight during Sigma 7 (yes that’s the real name), 1962 (62 years ago)
Germany launched a V-2 to a record-breaking altitude of 85 km… trivial by today’s standards but it’s crazy to think how at one point THAT was humanity’s extent to the heavens, 1942 (82 measly years ago)

Anonymous No. 16408242

>>16407812
They don't want SNEEDLON CHUCK and his CHUD ROCKET launching before the election.

Anonymous No. 16408245

>>16408224
nta
die

Anonymous No. 16408248

>>16408225
Schirra was a Sigma.

>Be the only person to fly on all three Apollo-era capsules
>Retire from NASA before the moon landings even take place
>Refuse to elaborate further

Anonymous No. 16408259

>>16408159
Gwynne Shotwell basically killed ULA by posting the hotfire video. "Your CEO doesn't even believe this is possible but it works." Now they're just a legacy contractor selling tubes on top of other people's engines.

Anonymous No. 16408266

>>16408084

Shuttle-Centaur. FFS read some space history before you mouth off.

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Anonymous No. 16408267

>>16407752
It's already over. As soon as you add storage compartments and hardware it will be as cramped as the Russian segment

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Anonymous No. 16408271

Lord, what a stupid idea.

Anonymous No. 16408274

>>16408271
Shut up! It was an ambitious and cool idea and was killed because a few people got cold feet. I’m not sure why a liquid booster was considered too dangerous for the payload bay but somehow an SRB in the payload bay was considered fine

Anonymous No. 16408275

>>16408267
This is why nine meters should be the minimum diameter for all space station modules.

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Anonymous No. 16408283

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Anonymous No. 16408285

>>16408283
Based public bathroom man

Anonymous No. 16408288

>>16408266
NEVER FLEW MOTHERFUCKER. NOW SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE

Anonymous No. 16408292

>>16408274
OUTGASSING OF PROPELLANTS CAUSING. YOU KNOW... A BOMB IN THE PAYLOAD BAY!!???
IF AN ASTRONAUT GOES ON THEIR CIG BREAK THEN ITS ALL OVER

Anonymous No. 16408293

>>16408292
Counter point: shuttle was found to have something like a 1-in-9 chance of failure early in its history anyways so why not put a LRB in the payload bay? Only adds minimal risk at that point desu

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Anonymous No. 16408294

its over

Anonymous No. 16408297

>>16408275
If you can't jog around the perimeter of the module like they did in Skylab, then it's basically trash.

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Anonymous No. 16408301

>>16408299
Magellan is top 3 coolest missions ever launched, everything was pretty much parts or reused designs. Modularpilled. Every space probe should be this way

Anonymous No. 16408302

>>16408204
>aspirational starship flight $5,000,000
>dragon flight $250,000,000
I'm going to guess NASA is the only customer that would push for this setup

Anonymous No. 16408311

>>16408293
1 IN 9? IM 31 AND I HAVE A 1 IN 9 CHANCE OF EVER FINDING LOVE (IVE BEEN TRYING FOR 2 DECADES) AND I WOULDNT SAY THAT PSRTICUARLY HIGH. WAKE ME UP WHEN ITS 1 IN 1

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Anonymous No. 16408318

>not having caps lock rebound to another control key
please tell me there aren't people not doing this

Anonymous No. 16408320

A million hubbles. A billion JWST. A trillion w/e spacex makes since nasa doesn't have the ability to continue

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Anonymous No. 16408321

>>16408320
Just take advantage of the stock starlink setup and launch an entire array

Anonymous No. 16408322

>>16408311
We’re all getting a space gf in 2025 trust the plan

Anonymous No. 16408327

Musk is kind of a retard for thinking direct democracy would ever work on Mars.

He might know a lot about some things, but when it comes to other subjects he's dramatically ignorant.

Anonymous No. 16408330

>>16408327
Literally who cares. The focus should be getting hardware and small groups of humans there first. If you’re logging on to /sfg/ to discuss le government of mars you’re a faggot; these things will not matter for another 60+ years and even then it will simply be the government of a small american town with a mayor and city council and everyone pulling their weight

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Anonymous No. 16408339

>>16408327
direct democracy seems to work better for smaller populations

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Anonymous No. 16408341

the future is underground

Anonymous No. 16408343

>>16408339
that's just true communism

Anonymous No. 16408347

>>16408285
Do you think he goes and cums on the walls of their bathrooms just to get back at them?

Anonymous No. 16408348

Now that the dust has settled

Anonymous No. 16408350

>>16408318
The fact that caps lock and escape aren't swapped by default really bottles the mind.

Anonymous No. 16408351

>>16408327
I'm a cold anarchist myself

Anonymous No. 16408352

>>16408339
>>16408343
Pretty ironic that communism could actually work in small tight-knit, high-IQ, communities like what we would expect on early mars.
Initially funded by billionaire capitalists, of course.

Anonymous No. 16408353

>>16408330
>it will simply be the government of a small american town
pffff
hahahahahaha
no

Martian civics is a centrally important subject for any colony project and it's better discussed early than late
like, how do you select your leadership bro
is it a military command structure or civilian leadership

>le voooote
lmao how quaint
yes, allowing rich earthers to buy themselves a ticket and hence a vote will have NO negative consequences trust me bro
they have done such a good job with Earth, I'm sure those monied and very competent individuals are the BEST choice for any colonization project

"Mars, like all other “celestial bodies”, is legally regarded as the “province of all mankind” in the Outer Space Treaty. The Agreement prohibits national appropriation with respect to planets and other space objects, or any part of them. Accordingly, Martian bases, stations, settlements, and colonies will be regarded as operating under the jurisdiction of their originating nationality. Private corporations will likewise operate under the law of their originating jurisdiction, as will any colonies they may establish."

Have fun with your colony governed under current American legal code, or even better a Chinese one.
Yes, that's good enough. No way to improve that system.
The FAA WILL exist on Mars since you have no desire to tackle this problem beforehand.

>dude it'll be just like Jamestown but easier
top kek
they had a charter

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Anonymous No. 16408354

https://x.com/MarsCuriosity/status/1841998999802315044

Anonymous No. 16408356

>>16408351
military dictatorship is more thematic

Anonymous No. 16408360

>>16408271
If there was a run way could the shuttle land on Mars?

Anonymous No. 16408364

>>16408354
me when I have to mass autism

Anonymous No. 16408366

sex in zero g will be freaky. it will unlock incredible new positions which are not possible under our earthly bonds.

Anonymous No. 16408368

Why don't more images of planets in the solar system use off-nadir imaging? Seems like we're leaving a lot of detail on the table.

Anonymous No. 16408369

>>16408353
I’m simply not interested in discussing government in space it’s a dumb topic
>>16408366
I’m simply not interested in discussing sexual intercourse in space it’s a vulgar topic

Anonymous No. 16408373

>>16408354
it's so rover

Anonymous No. 16408384

>>16408327
>>16408339
Not smaller population, but high trust single culture. It doesnt work for multi-cultures.

Anonymous No. 16408387

for me, it's dividing the crew into sections responsible for operating and maintaining essential systems like security, power, life support, communications, weather monitoring, psychological profiling, horticulture, medicine, navigation and landing coordination, etc and shuffling them in staggered fashion one or two at a time between different sections periodically for cross training purposes

each section so constituted would hold self-contained and regular elections to select a representative from their section to serve on the Supreme Council, which itself would write binding legislation based either on a 2/3 majority system or unanimity
they could be invested with the power to elect a dictator in times of emergency, but that might not be necessary unless there were some kind of deadlock between members on a particularly important issue

no term limits, if you keep getting reelected by your section that indicates you are the most qualified
for these government functions to proceed, every essential system must first report fully functional first
if there were a critical failure in one of these systems, it's the task of the government to coordinate relief efforts and identify the problem before continuing with their prerogative operations

what am I missing here

>>16408366
all the sex positions are already discovered, zero g changes nothing

but the sex ops division should have a seat on the council, even if they aren't subject to rotation (rather, those who volunteer would be relieved of their duties by the next scheduled volunteer to prevent burnout) and are an opt-in service available to each section
they would probably coordinate with the psych section to assist in building profiles

Anonymous No. 16408388

The PRC will be the first country to have a person land on mars in 2083

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Anonymous No. 16408389

>>16408366
did you also read the one just translated on sadpanda?

Anonymous No. 16408399

>Wernher von Braun wrote science fiction about Mars
>their Supreme Leader is literally called "the Elon"

can't make this shit up if you tried

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Anonymous No. 16408403

>Views across the country may surpass those in May
https://x.com/TDSwx/status/1842027423564521748
Gotta charge up my camera and keep an eye outside this time, last time I only got a snap with my phone right before it faded.

Anonymous No. 16408405

>>16408366
Don't care. Significantly more interested in the possibility to cuddle with an SO without the bed in the way to promote overheating and gravity making a full embrace usually uncomfortable. Low-g may actually be the sweet spot but it remains to be seen.
These are the things NASA should be testing on the ISS.

Anonymous No. 16408413

>>16408327
Direct democracy after the invention of computers, keep in mind. Most people would probably set their vote to match a person or party of their choice. Maybe blockchain something something for security

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Anonymous No. 16408415

In our other timeline, Musk endorsed Harris and he's caught THREE fucking boosters so far. How's this timeline going?

Anonymous No. 16408419

>>16408415
Tell me a bedtime story, anon

Anonymous No. 16408421

>>16408415
>Musk endorsed Harris and he's caught THREE fucking boosters so far.
No, he hasn't. They'd still be pissed at him for not unionizing Tesla or for censoring Twitter the way they wanted. These are the kind of people for whom no apology is ever enough; they will always want you to grovel more. That's why it's essential that they be broken and driven out of power forever

Anonymous No. 16408424

>>16408421
elon should have donated to more democrats and sucked bidens grandpa cock. he doesnt know how to play the game

Anonymous No. 16408425

>>16408403
>Poor
Well, fuck. The good news is that it looks like the cloud cover in new england should be getting progressively clearer between 1 and 7 AM on Saturday. The bad news is that that's between 1 and 7 AM.

Anonymous No. 16408432

>>16408389
nta but it was weird how manga/anime always does it first. There's still no Starship in TV/movie aside from SENPAI shits

Anonymous No. 16408434

>>16408415
>Musk supporting socialist who wants to nationalise his companies

Anonymous No. 16408437

>>16408424
He knows how to play the game, you're just in the wrong team. You're in the commie castration tranny cult and think anyone who hasnt castrated "doesn't know" how to play the game

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Anonymous No. 16408448

whatever happened with that star that was supposed to go nova and be visible in the sky?

Anonymous No. 16408453

>>16408415
His companies simply cannot function in the regulatory job grift scheme like boeing or other legacy industries

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>>16408448
explosion still traveling space

Anonymous No. 16408472

>>16407659
I don't care for him either

Anonymous No. 16408474

>>16408353
I think this is the same retard who was losing his mind over "noo you have to do mars something this way like I say" several threads ago but I don't remember what it was because I saw he was just being a retard and scrolled past all his posts.

Anonymous No. 16408478

>>16408091
Impulse space?

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842046777299468419

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842041476424798645

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842042655804362941

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Anonymous No. 16408500

Isn't this a bit unwise?

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>>16408499

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>>16408500
No, it's going to be fucking awesome.

Anonymous No. 16408507

>>16408500
New OP images soon!

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Anonymous No. 16408508

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1841946850674540694

Anonymous No. 16408510

>>16408507
based

Anonymous No. 16408512

>>16408507
Cringe

Anonymous No. 16408513

>>16408500
kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJq-F51QblI

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Anonymous No. 16408514

>>16408495

Anonymous No. 16408515

>>16408513
we need to become multiplanetary

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Anonymous No. 16408522

Time until Vulcan Cert-2 launch window opens is 4h 20min
the launch window stays open 3h

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FnkBUSH1R8
launch pad is live (like always it seems)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPztD5zwgYY
NSF live in 2h 50min (1h 30min before launch window opens)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec_4DHUylEg
Spaceflight now live in 3h 20min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAUatH8O6Ng
official stream starts 20min before launch window open

Anonymous No. 16408527

>>16408515
Yes

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Anonymous No. 16408528

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1841990814194663877

Anonymous No. 16408530

>>16408522
The payload is what I'm really excited about!

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Anonymous No. 16408532

>>16408530
its cool I promise

Anonymous No. 16408533

>>16408500
I hope he doesn't speak, he's a terrible speaker and has nothing in common with a Trump rally audience

Anonymous No. 16408534

>>16408532
The US government and a highly esteemed military contractor would NEVER LIE.
China and Russia wont even bother tracking this one. Because they, like you and me, have trust, and faith in the people in charge, and their organization of integrity.

Anonymous No. 16408539

>>16408528
Technically, Starlink operates in partnership with the Biden Administration every moment of every day it broadcasts under its FCC license, and it sure would be a shame if anything happened to that

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Anonymous No. 16408540

>>16408366
>bonds
You have it backwards. The idea of being RESTRAINED by the gravity of Earth is what will turns people on

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>>16408528
>>16408539
Guess who's career is over, as of Friday, October 4th, 2024?

Anonymous No. 16408544

>>16408533
hopefully he appears inside of some pope-mobile, with bulletproof glass, taking Q & A @ X via Starlink
Please don't stutter

Anonymous No. 16408559

>>16408540
>New Shepard from Temu

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Anonymous No. 16408561

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842083027435794673

Anonymous No. 16408565

>>16408474
>t-tldr
oh look it's the I WONT CLEAN MY ROOM triggered manbaby here to demonstrate his complete ignorance of decades old SOP again

clean
>planetary
your
>protection
room

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Anonymous No. 16408571

>>16408565
>you have to follow these guidelines for decontamination written when the number of decon events would be single digits per week because... you just do ok?
when there are thousands of people living on mars you're going to need to come up with better SOPs than "spend 2 hours every ingress and exit on decon and cleaning your shit"

Anonymous No. 16408574

>>16408565
>decades old SOP
Not interested in your decades old SLOP

Anonymous No. 16408575

>>16408571
Until you can prove to my satisfaction that there are no Martian microbes waiting to annihilate the colony, the 2-hour protocol stays
Protip: I am VERY difficult to satisfy

Anonymous No. 16408576

>>16408571
by that point we will have determined if there is any exobiological threat to human life and hopefully have found microbes in the water
it's only really important for the first few missions, until we retrieve a representative sample for study

>2 hours every ingress and exit on decon
more like 21 days dude
they quarantined the Apollo astronauts for 21 days when they got back because they stepped on the moon
last I heard PPO wants to have these quarantine measures in place *during* the first manned mission to Mars because the probablility of microbes existing on Mars is far higher than the moon

>cleaning your shit
that's still going to be important so you don't fuck your seals with the dust you would otherwise track in though
the moon dust on the Apollo missions was very bad, literally ate away layers of their boots/visors and comprimised the vaccum seals of their sample containers it was so abrasive
Mars dust is fine as talcum powder, aerosolized, and sticks to things because it has a static charge
though it probably won't be uniquely abrasive as moon dust because of erosion it's still going to be a bitch to mitigate and that procedure WILL involve laborious cleaning

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10377461/
>With the new objectives to extend human space exploration missions to the red planet, exposure to Martian dust cannot be ruled out, assuming that some dust and soil will be brought inside the Martian habitat by returning astronauts, as was the case during the Apollo missions to the Moon. However, even less factual data exists for Martian soil and dust compared to lunar dust.

even less factual data exists for Martian soil and dust compared to lunar dust
this is why PPP is important for the first few missions at least

Anonymous No. 16408580

>>16408508
probably send tesla energy infrastructure

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Anonymous No. 16408582

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/ulas-second-vulcan-launch-will-pave-the-way-for-military-certification/
>If Friday's test flight goes well, ULA is on track to launch at least one—and perhaps two—operational missions for the Space Force by the end of this year. The Space Force has already booked 25 launches on ULA's Vulcan rocket for military payloads and spy satellites for the National Reconnaissance Office. Including the launch Friday, ULA has 70 Vulcan rockets in its backlog, mostly for the Space Force, the NRO, and Amazon's Kuiper satellite broadband network.

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>>16408582
>Bruno said the Centaur V design, as it is today, offers as much as 12 hours of operating life in space. This is longer than any other existing rocket using cryogenic propellants, which can boil off over time.
>"What we are looking to do is to extend that by orders of magnitude," Bruno said. "And what that would allow us to do is have a in-space transportation capability for in-space mobility and servicing and things like that."
>Bruno hesitated to share details of the experiments ULA plans for the Centaur V upper stage on Friday's test flight, citing proprietary concerns. He said the experiments will confirm analytical models about how the upper stage performs in space.
>"Some of these are devices, some of these are maneuvers because maneuvers make a difference, and some are related to performance in a way," he said. “In some cases, those maneuvers are helping us with the thermal load that tries to come in and boil off the propellants."

apparently they are doing some boiloff experiments or whatever

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>>16408586
old VP and chief scientist talking about boiling off hydrogen instead of oxygen and that they have experimented to get it down to 10% per year without cryocoolers
sounds pretty good

Anonymous No. 16408594

>>16408224
nta but consider suicide you subhuman dreg.

Anonymous No. 16408600

>>16408389
sauce?

Anonymous No. 16408601

>>16408507
kill yourself nigger

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Anonymous No. 16408602

https://x.com/NASA_Marshall/status/1841941294207082707
> @NASA’s Deep Space Optical Communications technology demonstration broke yet another record this summer by sending a laser signal from Earth to #NASAPsyche about 290 million miles away. That’s the same distance between our planet and Mars!

long distance laser communication demonstrated

Anonymous No. 16408604

>>16408602
it's strange that these laser links have only started taking off in the last few years.
what was stopping TDRS from being a laser based system?

Anonymous No. 16408608

>>16408582

> $7 billion to develop a disposable rocket in the 21st Century

Please clap.

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>>16408604
TDRS-1 was launched 41 years ago, built around technology, on a baseline specification that's probably closer to 50 years old. Lasers and optical receivers were much, much less developed in the 1970s than they are today.

Anonymous No. 16408615

>>16408611
dang, i thought i remembered TDRS being like 30 years old or something.

Anonymous No. 16408623

you WILL submit regular stool samples to your embedded PPO protocol enforcement responsible mission specialist for microbial profiling and you will LIKE it too

Anonymous No. 16408624

>>16408623
your funny meme was already unfunny before this day started.

Anonymous No. 16408625

>>16408624
spit in the cup

Anonymous No. 16408626

>>16408625
spit on my cock.

Anonymous No. 16408627

>>16408626
Manbabys such as yourself get a free ticket back to earth in the brig or a one way trip out the airlock - your choice.
Now shit in the bag.

Anonymous No. 16408628

>>16408627
>retard is still demanding all sorts of things, screaming into thin air
i am going to take a fat unprotected shit on mars and there is nothing you can do about it faggot.

Anonymous No. 16408633

30min until launch window opens

Anonymous No. 16408634

>>16408628
Ok have fun but don't complain when you get locked out of the base for shitting outside the designated area.

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Anonymous No. 16408635

>>16408522
weather is GO

Anonymous No. 16408637

>>16408635
Have decon procedures been followed? We're not go otherwise

Anonymous No. 16408638

>>16408634
why are you threatening things you have no authority over, lil' man?
you get no say in this, cope and seethe, mars will be infected by earth life and any independently formed microbes there will get rekt because they didn't git gud like earth life did.
>t-there are consequences to your actions dont get mad at me
is the same type of wording that petty leftards use.

Anonymous No. 16408640

>>16408638
>any independently formed microbes there will get rekt
You have no right to do this

Anonymous No. 16408642

>>16408640
you have no right to stop me, the only thing you can do is theorize about fantasy laws that will stop me.

Anonymous No. 16408643

>>16408637
I just checked in for a second

Anonymous No. 16408644

>>16408627
>>16408634
>>16408640
Different anon here but this guy is 100% right and I agree with him

Anonymous No. 16408645

Why is this faggot larping as a Martian janitor?

Anonymous No. 16408647

>>16408644
you are not a different anon, you're losing the argument and thus trying to consensus crack.

Anonymous No. 16408648

>>16408635
They're launching a slab of concrete, why the fuck should they care about weather?

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Anonymous No. 16408649

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAUatH8O6Ng

stream started

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Anonymous No. 16408650

>>16408647
Not so

Anonymous No. 16408651

>>16408648
the rocket itself is not a slab of concrete

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>>16408649

Anonymous No. 16408653

>>16408651
No, but it will probably shake the concrete apart too.

Anonymous No. 16408654

>>16408650
>B-BUT MUH INSPECT ELEMENT
yeah that's not convincing, sorry you lost the argument and mars belongs to human microbes, cope with the situation by crying your eyes out.

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>>16408652

Anonymous No. 16408657

>>16408653
yep the reason why they need a second certification mission is because they gave the previous test payload shaken baby syndrome, /sfg/ tried to pretend this wasnt true but it's obvious the reason why that lander failed is they shook it to pieces.

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Anonymous No. 16408658

>Very exciting and important launch
slab of concrete, kek

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>>16408650
You missed a spot

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>>16408658
they should have put the vulcan mascot suit with the smiling teeth into orbit instead.

Anonymous No. 16408662

>>16408660
holy shit PPcunts absolutely fucking annihalated.

how will they ever come back from this?

Anonymous No. 16408663

>>16408657
>/sfg/ tried to pretend this wasnt true
I've been talking about shaken payload syndrome since the result was in.

Anonymous No. 16408665

will there be penis inspections before the mars flights
because if there is, i'm not going

Anonymous No. 16408666

>>16408663
sure there were some who never stopped pointing it out, like you and me, but many were still trying to "fair" to ULA at the time and you heard a lot of coping that a new rocket flying for the first time with very vibratory solid rocket motors somehow wasn't shaking anything, when that's a problem many different rockets using solids have experienced.

Anonymous No. 16408667

>>16408665
what's wrong with your penis, anon?

Anonymous No. 16408668

> A new target launch time has not been identified

Anonymous No. 16408669

window is 3h

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>>16408661

Anonymous No. 16408671

>>16408667
Yid demanded a tip when he was born.

Anonymous No. 16408672

>>16408667
That's for the Sisters of the Immaculate Inspection to determine

Anonymous No. 16408673

>>16408660
kino edit anon, arigatou

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Anonymous No. 16408674

https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1842140050546438615

Anonymous No. 16408675

>>16408649
>weather charts and explanations by a launch weather officer
They are putting lot of effort into their broadcast.

Anonymous No. 16408676

>>16408670
they should paint this on the rocket

Anonymous No. 16408677

>>16408674
Somebody shat in the engine bell, in violation of protocol

Anonymous No. 16408678

>>16408665
>>16408667
>>16408671
>>16408672
No working penis = no mars ticket
sorry fellas, gotta keep the martian populus virile, Penis Protection Agency's not gonna let you in.

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Anonymous No. 16408679

https://x.com/AndrewParsonson/status/1841910758000509141

Anonymous No. 16408682

>>16408628
bro, you can't just shit your pants on Mars
the EVA suits aren't designed with pajama butt flaps

>>16408647
lmao >>16408627 isn't even me
that's just someone else who jumped in

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Anonymous No. 16408684

https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1841594321788600390

if the chinese beat NASA to the moon this time, will politicians and the general population care?

Anonymous No. 16408686

>>16408682
>eva suits aren't designed with pajama buttflaps
i will modify mine with a backside airlock just to spite people like you
>that's someone else who jumped in
then why did you try to hide your samefagging by using inspect element as >>16408660 pointed out?

Anonymous No. 16408688

>>16408670
i am infiltrating ULA HQ and hanging this above both the male and female toilets.

Anonymous No. 16408689

new T-0 in 30min

Anonymous No. 16408690

What will be the actual requirements to get picked as a mars colonist? Will it be the same pilot experience requirements as NASA?

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Anonymous No. 16408693

>>16408686
>why did you try to hide your samefagging
what
how is the PPO this absolutely triggering

Anonymous No. 16408694

at what age are a vulcan rocket's teeth fully developed?

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Anonymous No. 16408695

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPztD5zwgYY

Anonymous No. 16408696

>>16408690
no, it'll be any kind of extreme competence that's useful in that environment, as well as the ability to stay calm and not give into instinct in long-term stressful situations.

oh and also virility, they will all be superhuman sexy gigachads/stacy's with extremely high reproductive cell counts and sexual hunger who will breed like rabbits.

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>>16408674
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1842143050128122181

Anonymous No. 16408699

>>16408693
>point out that you were triggered enough to samefag
>instantly accuse someone else of being mad
nobody else is triggered but you, you're upset that your fantasy got stomped.

Anonymous No. 16408700

>>16408387
>all the sex positions are already discovered, zero g changes nothing
False, axial rotations are impossible in even low gravity

Anonymous No. 16408702

what caused the Mars' dynamo to fail and it's magnetosphere to vanish, causing the loss of it's atmosphere

that shit doesn't just happen as a matter of course

Anonymous No. 16408703

>>16408700
you can imagine if you're both holding onto eachother while spinning quickly, you only have to use your muscles to thrust inwards and the centrifugal force will do the thrust exit for you.

Anonymous No. 16408705

>>16408702
It's a small, shitty planet. It cooled off and its core shat itself.

Anonymous No. 16408706

>>16408702
Nuclear war

Anonymous No. 16408707

>>16408540
>wellniggers are catty bottoms
So true

Anonymous No. 16408708

>>16408702
things do in fact just happen as a matter of course, not everything needs direct action/intervention to happen, some things just happen.

Anonymous No. 16408709

>>16408703
Spinning a girl till she nearly passes out will be the new "choke me daddy" for space thots

Anonymous No. 16408710

>>16408700
both spinning in opposite directions while standing like logs

Anonymous No. 16408712

people are talking about 1 on 1 sex positions but orgies are where it gets interesting.
imagine a ring of people all oral sexing eachother.

Anonymous No. 16408713

>>16408705
but Pluto is even smaller and shittier, and still has an active core
something very significant happened to Mars and it's obvious, but nobody wants to talk about it

Mars is literally the only planet that doesn't have a magnetosphere, that's fucking weird considering how similar it is to Earth

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Anonymous No. 16408716

>>16408708
Sometimes things happen for no reason
https://youtu.be/-rmf5EqJVDw?t=11

Anonymous No. 16408717

>>16408712
my god, frozen cum will become a serious orbital debris hazard.

to prevent this, swallowing should be mandatory in space, women will have no choice in this, even if it requires irrumatio.

Anonymous No. 16408718

>>16408706
even if we detonated every nuclear weapon on the planet, we couldn't kill the magnetosphere
maybe if we simultaneous airburst the atmosphere would be kill
but the core would still function

>>16408708
no, they don't
there's no reason Mars' dynamo would stop just on it's own but not Pluto's
something big must have happened

Anonymous No. 16408719

>>16408716
rubber was a good movie.

Anonymous No. 16408720

>>16408713
Pluto has no magnetosphere lmao
Neither does Venus

Anonymous No. 16408721

>>16408717
>irrumatio
Wut

Anonymous No. 16408722

>>16408718
no, not really, different planet, different circumstances, it could've just petered out on it's own.

also wtf are you talking about, pluto's magnetic field is signficiantly weaker than that of mars.

Anonymous No. 16408723

>>16408721
>he doesn't watch or read eastern sexual cartoons
newfag.

Anonymous No. 16408726

>>16408721
>>16408723
it's not even necessarily a japanese thing, even though japs do love to use that word a lot, the word itself is just latin in origin.

Anonymous No. 16408729

>>16408696
This is fine

Anonymous No. 16408730

>>16408721
it's just another word for forced oral.

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Anonymous No. 16408731

go for launch

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Anonymous No. 16408734

/SFG/ - Sex and Fucking General

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Anonymous No. 16408735

>>16408731
>haz gas

Anonymous No. 16408736

Here we go bros

Anonymous No. 16408737

>>16408721
Gross pervert way of saying "throat-fucking"

Anonymous No. 16408739

>>16408735
holding is short for vulcan holding in it's farts.

Anonymous No. 16408741

>>16408737
>throat-fucking is more elegant than a single sleek latin word
cringe and wrong.

Anonymous No. 16408743

Is Jeff Bezos there and watching?
After all, these are the engines his shitty company delivered, about 10 years LATE.

Anonymous No. 16408744

>>16408743
he is watching and shitting his pants out of fear that his engines will possibly fail live, contrary to PPO reccomendations

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Anonymous No. 16408747

The 6 booster configuration looks really kino

Anonymous No. 16408751

>>16408747
>SRB have blue flame
Also, ABORT

Anonymous No. 16408753

SCRUB LMAAAAOO

Anonymous No. 16408754

Bro what is it now

Anonymous No. 16408755

>>16408753
no scrub, just resetting to t-7

Anonymous No. 16408758

>>16408747
finally after all these years, ULA has a symmetrical booster config.

Anonymous No. 16408759

absolutely embarrassing

Anonymous No. 16408760

ULAsisters...

Anonymous No. 16408761

Slow and steady

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>>16408755
>reset count

Anonymous No. 16408764

>>16408761
loses the race

Anonymous No. 16408765

START THE COUNT

Anonymous No. 16408767

S-STOP THE COUNT

Anonymous No. 16408768

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Anonymous No. 16408769

>>16408722
it isn't
Mars has only an intermittent and splotchy magnetic field generated by magnetic particles in the soil and dust, no magnetosphere because dynamo is fail
which is why space weather is even more relevant to Martian climate than Earth's

Pluto does have an active core, and currently it isn't known whether Pluto even has a magnetic field.
Everything said about that is speculation about obseved rotation.

>could've just petered out on it's own
that does not make sense

Anonymous No. 16408770

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykMguz43ncs

Anonymous No. 16408774

>>16408769
it does, in fact, make sense, it's smaller, and has less momentum, and also no large moon to keep pulling on it.

Anonymous No. 16408775

Why is he sitting like a fag?

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>>16408769
Latest thing I read is that there's something fucky about the mantle.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06601-8
Like it's set up in such a way that a dynamo could never properly get going

Anonymous No. 16408777

Reminder that cold interstellar clouds are a menace we have no defence against

Anonymous No. 16408780

>>16408776
Mars is so lame tbqh

Anonymous No. 16408781

>>16408776
maybe the thicker crust is preventing heat from effectively escaping at the edge of the mantle and thus not generating enough convection for a field?

Anonymous No. 16408783

nothing ever happens

Anonymous No. 16408784

>>16408777
why are they a menace?
basedence told me that some of them taste like raspberry.

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>>16408781
That seems to be the gist of the paper. The core is kept too hot and isn't convecting enough for the effect to take place. All comes down to different size of the planet I think.
I guess we'll have to make a magentosphere the old fashioned way

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Anonymous No. 16408786

>>16408784
Maybe have caused an ice age

Anonymous No. 16408787

>rocketship

Anonymous No. 16408788

>>16408785
i am more a proponent of artificial magnetospheres like these because they also provide better coverage from cosmic rays than an L1 electromagnet.

Anonymous No. 16408789

I feel a scrub is coming

Anonymous No. 16408790

>>16408786
but the ice age was kino and part of the reason why white mankind evolved in the way it did.

Anonymous No. 16408792

>>16408788
Yeah I really like the plasma torus idea. It's well worked out in the paper. The L1 station idea seems like it would be trying to piss into a flowerpot from across the room

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Anonymous No. 16408794

why is she so late?

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Anonymous No. 16408796

Guys, when Tory says Vulcan is the most advanced rocket in the world, we should probably believe that.

Anonymous No. 16408797

>>16408793
Nice view at least

Anonymous No. 16408798

>>16408796
Those are stupid names for kids

Anonymous No. 16408799

Whats the deal with blorigin, are we still getting a New Glenn launch?

Anonymous No. 16408800

>>16408792
people talk a lot about the Lagrange option because aesthetically the image of a large shield on one side of the planet splicing apart the solar wind like moses looks more kino.

Anonymous No. 16408802

>>16408796
>locator sniper detector
Dang, they've got so many snipers in the field they need a machine to keep track of them

Anonymous No. 16408803

>>16408794
constipation.

Anonymous No. 16408804

>>16408785
my thinking is giant impact reheat event

Anonymous No. 16408805

>slick 41

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Anonymous No. 16408807

>>16408790
Having glaciers scrape your cities off the planet is bad.
I wonder if the dust particle flux from the cloud would make spaceflight difficult

Anonymous No. 16408808

>>16408806
It's been stuck at T-7 minutes for the past hour

Anonymous No. 16408809

>two more holds

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Anonymous No. 16408811

>>16408807
Ice age would take thousands of years to have effect. We'd have plenty of time to set up solar reflectors in orbit.

Anonymous No. 16408812

>>16408774
>>16408776
>>16408785
and yet even Pluto's core is active
it spins
Mars' core doesn't spin, it's inactive

that does not make sense
it is unique, because there is still liquid water there, and geological evidence of an atmosphere
didn't happen 4 billion years ago imo

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Anonymous No. 16408815

>>16408812
shut the fuck up

Anonymous No. 16408816

>we have no other concerns

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Anonymous No. 16408817

new t-0 in 25min

Anonymous No. 16408818

Their mission control sounds disorganized.

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Oh no you guys it's on fire

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Anonymous No. 16408823

>>16408818
just less experienced.
keep in mind spacex mission control launches often multiple times per week.
these guys MIGHT get five launches in a year.

Anonymous No. 16408824

>>16408812
Ask no further questions about the forbidden interior of Mars. It is not your concern.

Anonymous No. 16408825

>>16408799
They can't get it up, they got Limp.

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Anonymous No. 16408827

>>16408826
>engines have diapers
oh nonono

Anonymous No. 16408831

>>16408827
in compliance with PPO standards.

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Anonymous No. 16408833

>>16408827
They look kinda full

Anonymous No. 16408836

>>16408826
uh oh poopy!

Anonymous No. 16408837

>>16408833
They had to "hold" for a while now

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Anonymous No. 16408838

>>16408826
CLEAN IT UP, JANNIE

Anonymous No. 16408839

Showing a previous launch while the current one is on hold is fucking stupid

Anonymous No. 16408841

i'm going to bed, not interested in the 144p flight coverage anyway.

gn bros.

Anonymous No. 16408842

Showing a future launch while the current one is GO is fucking brilliant

Anonymous No. 16408846

>>16408838
>lips

Anonymous No. 16408847

it matters because vulcan is an evolution of atlas (uses a lot of the tech minus BE-4 integration)

Anonymous No. 16408849

THIS is what a launch looks like
the adults are now in the room

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Anonymous No. 16408850

go for launch, hold released

Anonymous No. 16408852

so i guess we won't be seeing much blue from the be-4's after launch?

Anonymous No. 16408853

Countdownbros, we are SO back

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reminder that the first stage with the BE-4s is dropped before reaching orbit, so still nothing produced by BO has yet reached orbit

Anonymous No. 16408860

watch it fail lmfao

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Anonymous No. 16408862

T-1:30

Anonymous No. 16408863

>>16408846
those are clearly teeth

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Anonymous No. 16408868

boogity

Anonymous No. 16408869

LUNCH

Anonymous No. 16408871

the girl commentator is very loud

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Anonymous No. 16408872

woosh

Anonymous No. 16408873

>legacy of *retarded niches that we use to cope with the fact that we are a dying company*
wew what a cringe liftoff speech.

Anonymous No. 16408874

talking about reliability not even 5 seconds into liftoff is not exactly safe, is it

Anonymous No. 16408875

that SRB is looking a little flakey

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Anonymous No. 16408877

why hasnt ula been sold yet

Anonymous No. 16408878

SRB is sharting itself

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Anonymous No. 16408879

on its way to stealing FH's contracts HaHA!

Anonymous No. 16408880

something seems to be falling off

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Anonymous No. 16408881

>>16408871
>>16408874
What?

Anonymous No. 16408882

>high energy
ugh, embarrassing marketing

Anonymous No. 16408883

I've forgotten how gross this rocket sounds when it launches, like a huge fart

BRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP

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Anonymous No. 16408887

>>16408879
>cheaper than FH
falcon heavy is way cheaper though, that's a lie, why are you lying?

Anonymous No. 16408888

BE-4 is still at 100% reliability btw

Anonymous No. 16408889

>>16408887
Falcon Heavy isn't HIGH ENERGY though

>>16408888
kek quads

Anonymous No. 16408890

>>16408887
it was real in my mind

Anonymous No. 16408891

>>16408880
looked like chunks or something being jettisoned

Anonymous No. 16408892

mmm delicious gravity losses from a stupid sustainer memestage.

Anonymous No. 16408893

I forgot how boring expendable launches are

Anonymous No. 16408894

>animation

weak

Anonymous No. 16408895

SRB jettison delayed? looks off-normal.

Anonymous No. 16408896

>>16408894
weak sauce

Anonymous No. 16408897

>>16408893
they're not, cameraless launches are boring

Anonymous No. 16408898

uh, was that an explosion?

Anonymous No. 16408899

no onboard????

Anonymous No. 16408900

>>16408894
Would it kill them to put a gopro on Centaur?

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Anonymous No. 16408902

Quality stream as always, Tory.

Anonymous No. 16408903

12FPM (frames per minute)

Anonymous No. 16408904

>>16408895
yeah some funky shit went down, don't worry i'm sure the investigation will be buried :^)

Anonymous No. 16408907

>old white male mission control
a concerning sight

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>>16408900
can't spare the mass

Anonymous No. 16408909

>>16408908
nice payload lol

Anonymous No. 16408910

>faggots in stream chat complaining about pollution from vulcan
Do roggits really cause that much pollution like antispace fags claim? I would imagine the average factory in China spits out 1000x as much pollution in a day as a single rocket launch does

Anonymous No. 16408911

>>16408903
>animation has lower framerate than spacex live feed
even ISRO did it better

Anonymous No. 16408912

>>16408909
high energy bro

Anonymous No. 16408913

>>16408910
just newspace cope about SRBs

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Anonymous No. 16408915

BECO came about 8 seconds late because the nozzle on one of the SRBs exploded

Anonymous No. 16408916

>>16408900
It takes a lot of infrastructure work to get a good HD video stream after the rocket gets out of sight of the cape. SpaceX can only pull it off with starlink and even with that it took them some time to get all the issues worked out. ULA only has the TDRS birds for downrange comms and geostationary satetlies aren't great for livestreaming

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Anonymous No. 16408917

Here me out: ULA is primarily a launcher for government assets. They do not want adversaries to see how the rocket stages/maneuevers itself in space

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>>16408916
Get Starlink then

Anonymous No. 16408920

>>16408915
Not really what ULA wants anyone to see on a certification flight

Anonymous No. 16408921

ula streams so are fucking awful, this is why no one likes thems

Anonymous No. 16408922

>>16408910
>CO2
>water
>pollution
Maybe the SRBs do but these people have no concept of scale. It's not even a rounding error in total.

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Anonymous No. 16408923

uhh...

Anonymous No. 16408925

>>16408920
Yeah but at least it's something that can easily be blamed on northrop

Anonymous No. 16408927

>>16408916
>SpaceX can only pull it off with starlink
SpaceX did onboard video long before the first starlink satellites went up.

Anonymous No. 16408928

Who made those scuffed SRB's? Shit was flying off like crazy

Anonymous No. 16408929

LMAO, they lost a SRB nozzle
Mission = Failure

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Anonymous No. 16408930

>the nozzle fell off

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Anonymous No. 16408931

>>16408915

Anonymous No. 16408932

This anomaly requires FAA investigation

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Anonymous No. 16408933

SRB jettison delayed ~20s from officially timeline.

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Anonymous No. 16408934

its over

Anonymous No. 16408935

looks like they aren't getting that DoD cert then lmfao

Anonymous No. 16408936

>>16408923
What's that, then?

Anonymous No. 16408937

another certification test failed
and that after that announcer woman blurted off that cringe line about reliability lol.

Anonymous No. 16408938

>No telemetry
They fucked it up proper, didn't they?

Anonymous No. 16408939

so they are going to need a Cert-3 now?

Anonymous No. 16408940

>>16408937
>>16408938

AFAIK the vehicle's still in the nominal mission parameters.

Anonymous No. 16408941

>>16408935
Nope. Early 2025, Concrete Block: The Sequel
Stay Tuned!

Anonymous No. 16408942

>>16408930
well how was it untypical?

Anonymous No. 16408943

>>16408939
well the rocket did not have a nominal mission considering part of one of the SRB's fucking ripped off, i doubt space force is interested in launching on this piece of shit for now.

Anonymous No. 16408944

>>16408936
don't worry about it

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Anonymous No. 16408945

>>16408939
no it was totally successful

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Anonymous No. 16408947

Good shot of the nozzleless SRB going full tilt

Anonymous No. 16408948

>>16408942
Well, you see typically the nozzle does not fall off.

Anonymous No. 16408949

>>16408943
ULA buys the SRBs from a 3rd party, so,
SEE YOU IN COURT!!

Anonymous No. 16408950

>>16408945
Wikiniggers, it's not even inserted into orbit yet and already rush for it

Anonymous No. 16408951

>>16408942
well there are a lot of rockets going around the world all the time and very seldom does anything like this happen.

Anonymous No. 16408952

FAA status?

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Anonymous No. 16408953

>>16408945
nozzles falling off the SRB is a new staging procedure I guess

Anonymous No. 16408954

>>16408927
Yeah, but they didn't have continuous launch-to-landing streaming until pretty recently. All of the times Falcon 9 would pass into a dead zone and then pop up sitting on a droneship were times when it was passing out of direct line of sight with the cape. It's hard to get good video from Centaurs because they usually don't start up until Atlas or Vulcan are well below the horizion

Anonymous No. 16408955

This is why we test

Anonymous No. 16408957

Now that the dust has settled, WHAT THE FUCK WERE THOSE SPARKS???

Anonymous No. 16408958

>>16408940
Because it's only carry a few small payload, so there is a lot margin to save the mission, but not bigger payload.

Anonymous No. 16408959

>>16408952
ULA fleet = grounded indedinitely

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Anonymous No. 16408960

Another shot

Anonymous No. 16408961

>20 second extra burn required on the 2nd stage due to that booster fuckup
yep not getting any contracts like this lol.
TIME FOR ANOTHER CERTIFICATION FLIGHT.

Anonymous No. 16408962

>>16408953
best part is no part!

Anonymous No. 16408963

>>16408952
Full Licensing granted for all future Vulcan Test Flights

Anonymous No. 16408964

Didn't the nozzle explode on a test for NGs omega rocket that was never finished too?

Anonymous No. 16408965

>>16408962
The best part is no fucking training wheel SRBs.

Anonymous No. 16408966

>>16408955
this is not a test flight, but a certification flight, to show it all works.
oldspace niggers use this cope all the time, they whine about spacex's iterative development but then when their demonstration/certification flight fails they play it off like it was "just a test"
same thing with starliner, you saw EDSfags say it was "why we test" when that was supposed to be the certification flight with people on it to show that it just works.

Anonymous No. 16408967

>>16408957
Guessing it was the SRB acking out

Anonymous No. 16408968

>>16408957
Presumably the right SRB nozzle committing sudoku

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>>16408957
SRB nozzle detached shortly after take off

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Anonymous No. 16408971

>"Vulcan has been EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL!"
Yeah, it killed its first payload and on its second flight the nozzle on one SRB fell off. Well done.

Anonymous No. 16408972

Qualified employee forgot to tighten the bolt

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Anonymous No. 16408973

>SRBs are reliab-

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Anonymous No. 16408975

>>16408969
The nozzle itself ruptured even earlier than that, given the plume shape as of about... I want to say T+8 or so seconds?

Anonymous No. 16408976

>>16408969
Impressive it managed to recover from that.
As soon as I saw that I was sure it was fucked.

Anonymous No. 16408977

>>16408973
within expected parameters

Anonymous No. 16408978

>>16408969
OH NONONONONONONO RELIABILITYBROS

Anonymous No. 16408979

>>16408976
>managed to recover
There's a reason they're not showing telemetry and that's because it didn't recover, it sent it into the wrong orbit.

Anonymous No. 16408981

partial-failuresisters, we're so back.

Anonymous No. 16408982

>>16408969
>asymmetric thust
>that yaw moment
oof

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Anonymous No. 16408983

Tory hasn't tweeted in half an hour... vulcanbros...

Anonymous No. 16408984

>>16408981
partial-success*

Anonymous No. 16408986

>>16408983
Tory's a good kid. Deserves his company to get acquired and given a substantial severance pay.

Anonymous No. 16408987

>>16408979
no this payload is just light enough that vulcan had shitloads of leftover delta-v it could use to correct, it had to use 20 EXTRA seconds of 2nd stage thrust to save the payload.

NSF is on stream right now coping that them being able to recover is a good thing, completely ignoring that with a normal multi-ton government payload this thing would've been fucked and not get to orbit.

certification failed, try again ULA.

Anonymous No. 16408989

>>16408987
>Listening to NSF

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Anonymous No. 16408990

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1842169172932886538
>Yeah, that's not nominal.

Anonymous No. 16408991

>>16408982
don't think tory bruno is going to be posting a bullseye tweet for this flight
lmao

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Anonymous No. 16408992

>>16408973
successful mission t: wikipedia

Anonymous No. 16408995

>QUICK! PLAY THE CENTAUR RELIABILITY FOOTAGE!

Anonymous No. 16408996

>>16408992
The perfect example of a fiery but successful launch. ULA continues to pave the way.

Anonymous No. 16408997

>>16407634
Casters look like they're held at gunpoint. It's boeing so they probably are.

Anonymous No. 16408998

>>16408989
i only turned on their stream after the failure to see them cope.

Anonymous No. 16408999

>>16407634
You probably wont believe me but expendable rockets are the future.

Anonymous No. 16409000

>>16408999
based

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Anonymous No. 16409001

https://x.com/baserunner0723/status/1842168448119447786

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Anonymous No. 16409003

ULA's lucky burn through happened facing away from the core stage lmao

Anonymous No. 16409004

>>16408983

Tory is Life's punching bag.

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Anonymous No. 16409006

this could've all been prevented if teams had de-toothed all the gators in the launch site area.

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Anonymous No. 16409008

HE STILL HASN'T TWEETED (he usually does min by min commentaries)
What does he know?!

Anonymous No. 16409009

>>16409008
Boeing sisters....

Anonymous No. 16409010

>>16408982
The rocket did a damn good job compensating for that massive loss of thrust.

Anonymous No. 16409011

this launch gave me IFT-2 vibes
>early sunrise launch
>no onboard views
>anomaly occurs
>meco looked like when S25 exploded

Anonymous No. 16409012

>>16409006
this could've all been prevented if vulcan had lips.

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Anonymous No. 16409014

>>16409011
the payload also got vibes.
shaken baby syndrome.

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Anonymous No. 16409016

https://x.com/baserunner0723/status/1842166128669270205

Anonymous No. 16409017

So how does this impact all the Vulcan launches currently lined up? Does everything get bumped one down the line?

Anonymous No. 16409018

>>16409010
Payload mass on the lighter side wasn't it? Something heavier to GTO probably fucked.

Anonymous No. 16409019

>LOOK AT HOW METICULOUSLY WE PAINT OUR ROCKETS!
If only you spent half the energy on designing a better one without SRBs, Tory.

Anonymous No. 16409020

>>16409019
srbs are nigger tier engineering

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Anonymous No. 16409022

>>16409016

Anonymous No. 16409023

>>16409008
Its an anomalous failure of the vehicle within seconds of liftoff, and going to be blamed on a subcontractor, so he has to remain silent until the court date. No fun tweets that will come back to bite him. Their stream will terminate abruptly.
This case could drag on for years, as both parties blame each other, and delay court dates again and again

Anonymous No. 16409024

>2024
>Still using SRBs

Anonymous No. 16409025

Do note that it's not necessarily because they burnt longer than what was shown that they had to compensate. Maybe the additional burn time was simply because of the delayed launch later in the window, and they forgot to update the stream interface.

Anonymous No. 16409026

>>16409018
If it was carrying a larger, heavier bird to a higher orbit this would have probably caused a significant issue with the insertion.

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Anonymous No. 16409027

>>16409022

Anonymous No. 16409028

>>16409011
STS-51-L vibes from the off nominal appearance of the SRB. Was expecting an explosion any moment when that sparking began and off axis plume.

Anonymous No. 16409029

>>16409017
It means we're not going to be seeing any space force launches on Vulcan before H2 2025

Anonymous No. 16409030

>>16409025
>coping this hard

Anonymous No. 16409031

>>16409017
would you put your payload on the rocket?

Anonymous No. 16409032

Never relax around SRBs.

Anonymous No. 16409033

>>16409025
nigga, they lost proper SRB thrust a few seconds into flight. after such a massive loss in TWR early in flight the 1st and 2nd stage would have to deal with ridiculous gravity losses trying to compensate for the depressed trajectory.

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Anonymous No. 16409034

The original use case of the GEM family was based tho

Anonymous No. 16409035

SMART reuse for the SRB nozzles

Anonymous No. 16409036

>>16409032
They should have triggered the FTS immediately.
What they did was unsafe, and I plan to sue them, and the FAA myself. Join my Class Action, or go it alone

Anonymous No. 16409037

>>16409034
i hope some day the US builds an ICBM called the manlet.

Anonymous No. 16409038

>>16409035
more like SHART reuse amirite?

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Anonymous No. 16409040

>>16408976
These GEM-63XLs are built pretty sturdy. If something like that had happened to one of the old GEM-40s that rocket would have been raining down in chunks

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Anonymous No. 16409041

TSL Total SRB Love

Anonymous No. 16409042

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1842172643425853463

Did they lose the entire bottom half of the SRB case?

Anonymous No. 16409044

>>16409032
kek, I remember reading about that being a NASA policy during STS. Special procedures needed when those things were in the VAB.

Anonymous No. 16409045

>>16409033
>>16409030
If it did compensate then it's even better, it shows how resilient and reliable ULA's rockets are!
The DOD will love this.

Anonymous No. 16409048

hot, straight and normal :)

Anonymous No. 16409049

Another PERFECT S2 restart.
S2 restart are hard! Not everybody can do it reliably, but ULA can!

Anonymous No. 16409050

>>16409025
Don't worry. I'm sure Vulcan will be a very successful small sat launcher.

Anonymous No. 16409051

>>16409029
Could SNC bite the bullet and put Dreamchaser on a certification flight?
>>16409031
Nah, my spin gravity frog utopia experiment deserves better

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Anonymous No. 16409053

DADDY TORY

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>>16409042
looks like

Anonymous No. 16409055

>>16409045
no, it shows that if they were to have taken any of their payloads on this thing, they would've wasted tons of taxpayer money as it would've fallen back to earth, never reaching orbit.

stop coping.

Anonymous No. 16409056

>>16409052
I think that might actually be the bottom dome and throat of the SRB case.

Anonymous No. 16409058

They failed, they will not make orbit

Anonymous No. 16409059

>>16408992
>the ol' razzle dazzle

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Anonymous No. 16409060

>we did have an observation on SRB-1, otherwise nominal

Anonymous No. 16409061

>that's the great thing about these certification flights
BITCH, THIS WAS NOT A TEST FLIGHT, STOP COPING.

Anonymous No. 16409063

>>16409051
Dream Chaser was supposed to be on THIS flight. ULA only launched a brick because SC wasn't ready and the DoD toe-tapping was getting too intense

Anonymous No. 16409064

Tory you fucking snake. THE SRB NOZZLE FELL OFF.

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Anonymous No. 16409065

>gorgeous launch

Anonymous No. 16409066

>>16409054
>hot staging ring

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Anonymous No. 16409067

>>16408987

> NSF coping

Oh are they ever. "Robust System" *roll eyes*

Anonymous No. 16409068

>who doesn't like a rocket launch?

Anonymous No. 16409069

HAHAHA now they will NEVER sell ULA!!
Billions of $$ were lost today. HAHAHAHA

Anonymous No. 16409070

>>16409063
dreamchaser being late really saved their asses here.

this thing would NOT have gotten to orbit if it was carrying dreamchaser.

also pisses me off because imagine if the dreamchaser team got wind of it and decided to just jetisson the fairing+second stage and fly it back to an airbase.

we missed some real fucking kino because dreamchaser was late.

Anonymous No. 16409072

>>16409065
smooth talker

Anonymous No. 16409073

Tory is so professional.

Anonymous No. 16409074

How much performance did they lose, do we know what kind of orbit they reached?

Anonymous No. 16409075

observe this dick tory

Anonymous No. 16409076

AN OBSERVATION

Anonymous No. 16409077

Tory must be pissed at NG right now if this ruins vulcan certification.

Anonymous No. 16409078

>>16409074
They probably lost at least half the thrust and specific impulse from the right SRB.

Anonymous No. 16409080

Nothing to see here folks, move along

Anonymous No. 16409081

>>16409060

"Trajectory was nominal throughout. We came to our first insertion on the orbit that we intended, so that is good. We did however have an observation on SRB number 1, so we will be off looking at that after the mission is complete. Other than that the flight was nominal."

"So, you're saying it was nominal?"

"No comment! Have this woman removed!"

Anonymous No. 16409083

>>16409074
even if they reached their target orbit it doesn't absolve them of anything.

this payload weighed 1.5 tons, comparatively small next to typical DOD sats, or even dreamliner which was SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIS ROCKET.

you bet your ass that DOD is not happy with this.

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Anonymous No. 16409086

>they cutoff the replay before the SRB sharted

Anonymous No. 16409088

> shows that 1/4 (25%) of the GEM 63XLs that have flown have suffered an anomaly. This number feeds into some sort of model to determine the probability of mission success for future USSF missions.


"But aside from that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play?"

Anonymous No. 16409089

SRB nozzle vs F9 S2
which is worse?

Anonymous No. 16409090

>spacex launches and lands orbital rockets bi-weekly
>other companies can't even get the launch part right
K E K.
E
K
.

Anonymous No. 16409092

Those solid rocket boosters really are high energy, even nozzles can't contain them

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Anonymous No. 16409093

GEM?
more like COAL

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Anonymous No. 16409096

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1842175432214340093

Anonymous No. 16409097

>>16409092
China makes better SRBs. China should buy ULA, there are so many synergies

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>>16409044
qrd? I hate SRBs so much its unreal

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Anonymous No. 16409099

https://x.com/StephenClark1/status/1842167129811886383

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Anonymous No. 16409100

Will they recover the nozzle???

Anonymous No. 16409102

>>16409100
How deep is the water?
I can be there TODAY.

Anonymous No. 16409103

>>16409100
there's a 60 day comment period from FWS before they'll be allowed to send someone out to retrieve it

Anonymous No. 16409104

You would think they would learn not to use SRBs after the shuttle shitshow

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Anonymous No. 16409106

https://x.com/DutchSpace/status/1842167485707034903

Anonymous No. 16409107

>>16409096
>there was an observation
Name for SpaceX's next droneship

Anonymous No. 16409109

>>16409077
>Maybe those NSL missions should launch on our upcoming Antares 300 :^)
Did he think NG sees them as anything over than a Boeing/Lockheed puppet?

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Anonymous No. 16409110

https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1842178051083215351

cuts off before sharting lmao

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Anonymous No. 16409111

"Nicknamed 'The Widowmaker' the GEM 63XL..."

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>>16409098
The front fell off.

Anonymous No. 16409115

>>16409100
Insider here
Bazos is already phoning his F-1 recovery crew to fish it out into his collection

Anonymous No. 16409116

>>16409098
IIRC non essential personnel had to evacuate and could not be in or near the VAB during SSRB stacking which delayed lots of other things naturally.

Anonymous No. 16409118

Why doesn't Elon revalutiionise the srb like he done the lrb??

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Anonymous No. 16409121

https://x.com/_mgde_/status/1842178511093580209

Anonymous No. 16409122

>>16409110
SRBs needed diapers also

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Anonymous No. 16409125

“This new motor optimizes our best-in-class technologies and leverages flight-proven solid rocket propulsion designs to provide our customers with the most reliable product,” said Charlie Precourt, vice president, propulsion systems, Northrop Grumman. “Evolving the original GEM 63 design utilizes our decades of GEM strap-on booster expertise while enhancing capabilities for heavy-lift missions. And its gots electrolytes, which is what rockets crave."

Anonymous No. 16409126

>>16409100
>>16409102
60 DAYS

Anonymous No. 16409127

>>16409118
Even North Korea started using Kerlox recently, soon only the old space will be using them

Anonymous No. 16409130

>>16409125
>And its gots electrolytes, which is what rockets crave
Thanks, Morton-Thiokol.

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>>16409121

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>>16409121
burnthrough at 6s

Anonymous No. 16409136

>>16409131
is there something special on that location for a burnthrough to happen? or could it have happened into any direction as easily?
these >>16409125 look pretty symmetrical

Anonymous No. 16409139

>>16409118
not reusable
there are other new startups doing SRBs though, like Anduril

https://spacenews.com/anduril-gets-19-million-contract-to-develop-solid-rocket-motors-for-u-s-navy/

Anonymous No. 16409140

>>16409118
literally the only reason why SRB's are even used in space launch is to feed defence contractors, that's literally the only reason.

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Anonymous No. 16409142

"But your booster still disintegrated in flight."

"Picky picky picky."

Anonymous No. 16409144

>>16408696
>they will all be superhuman sexy gigachads/stacy's
So anon will never get a chance, as usual.

Anonymous No. 16409145

>>16409140
I thought reliable dumb thrust was the reason. No complex turbopumps and plumbing. They can't even get that part right.

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Anonymous No. 16409146

https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1842180231634850004/
kino shot

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Anonymous No. 16409147

https://x.com/wapodavenport/status/1842174324964278606

NOO ITS AN OBSERVATION

Anonymous No. 16409148

>>16409140
They're still used because they were a cheap way to add some extra performance. The earliest outlines for the Atlas V and Delta IV didn't include them, but the Delta IV Med ended up needing them because of RS-68 under-performance and the Atlas V leaned all in on the dial-a-rocket idea instead of going after the Atlas V Heavy

Anonymous No. 16409149

>>16409145
>I thought reliable dumb thrust was the reason.
This is only useful if you bought into the hydromeme.

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Anonymous No. 16409150

spacex watched, but will they learn?

Anonymous No. 16409151

>>16409146
Think about how wild a shot this would have been if the whole rocket had exploded

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Anonymous No. 16409152

"And many of those hundreds will not explode. Can't really give you a firm estimate, but...."

Anonymous No. 16409154

>>16409147
Vulcan proves it's robustness.

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Anonymous No. 16409155

>>16409136
The throat of the nozzle (solids and liquids in general) is highly stressed

Anonymous No. 16409156

>>16409150
>not even Starlink can keep up with our desired launch cadence, so we're working on reusable mass simulators to make up the difference

Anonymous No. 16409158

>>16409154
America's Ride to Space™

Anonymous No. 16409159

>>16409098
https://x.com/northropgrumman/status/1134183680765845504
>#NorthropGrumman successfully completed the test of OmegA’s first stage; the motor performed nominally with an observation noted at the very end of test involving the aft exit cone of the nozzle. Tune in to the press conference starting at 2:05 p.m. MDT

I didn't know that "observation" was actually established industry lingo

Anonymous No. 16409160

>>16409134
Considering this explosion happened only 6 seconds in, and the FAA did not terminate the flight immediately, I will be suing the FAA, along with several private companies.
They will NOT fly again for several years.

Anonymous No. 16409161

>>16409159
Oldspace version of RUD

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Anonymous No. 16409163

"What does 'FRAGILE' mean?"

Anonymous No. 16409164

>>16409145
they have so many downsides.
1 history proves they're not much more reliable than liquid fueled sideboosters
2 they're not really that much cheaper than people always harp on about, it's not a very significant difference.
3 throttling a solid rocket motor throughout flight to deal with max Q is not easy, and because it's literally patterned into the solid fuel it's not easy to make major changes to a rocket's trajectory before launch on the fly.
4 as you might know they're impossible to turn off, this is a massive risk factor in human spaceflight especially.

Anonymous No. 16409167

>>16409155
yeah but I mean could have the burnthrough and subsequent explosion happened inwards towards the first stage, instead of outwards?

Anonymous No. 16409168

>>16409163
GEMs are fragile

Anonymous No. 16409169

>inbred Utah mormons fuck up the layup on yet another nozzle section

Anonymous No. 16409171

>>16409164
>they're impossible to turn off, this is a massive risk factor in human spaceflight especially.
It also makes it literally impossible to trigger the FTS on stage 1 of the Vulcan. Is there a separate FTS charge on all 2, 4, of 6 SRBs, as well as the core stage 1, and stage 2?
Having 8 different FTS systems seems ridiculous and dangerous, and we all know the SRBs are going keep going, become uncontrolled nigger chasers as soon as the center rocket is lost.

Anonymous No. 16409172

>>16409164
>history proves they're not much more reliable than liquid fueled sideboosters
Are they really more reliable?

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Anonymous No. 16409173

NASA's alternative for SLS.... still uses SRBs!

Anonymous No. 16409174

>>16409167
oh idk lol, I imagine that would have fucked the BE-4

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Anonymous No. 16409175

"Hey hey Marcus House here and -- yeah wow -- what a dog's breakfast for Vulcan Cert-2."

Anonymous No. 16409176

>>16409173
Don't know what the real enemy is, SRBs or LH2

Anonymous No. 16409179

>>16408495
>if candidate X doesn't win, we can't go to mars
>candidate Y wins
>blame every single setback on them

Anonymous No. 16409181

>>16408651
Yeah, a slab of concrete has value that exceeds the cost to produce it

Anonymous No. 16409182

>>16408684
>resulting in PRC partnerships and treaties across south America and Africa
Why should I care? Is he trying to say those countries matter? Kek

Anonymous No. 16409183

>>16409176
SRB. nothing wrong with LH2 for upper stage, in fact if FH had a third stage it can replace SLS. Raptor used to be LH2 before 2015.

Anonymous No. 16409184

Srbs are NEVER going away you fairies lmao

Anonymous No. 16409185

>>16408661
Why are its lips cracked like that?

Anonymous No. 16409186

>>16408665
>he didn't save his certificate from junior high

Anonymous No. 16409187

>>16409145
>>16409164
back when the shuttle was designed this whole srb reliability thing was valid. liquid rocket engines werent mature enough. F1 had terrible isp comparible to a solid, and was estimated to have a much higher chance of failure than a solid. Engine failure on Apollo would be ok, but on shuttle it would be fatal.
Since then oldspaceheads have just repeated the srb reliability thing even though its no longer true and doesnt even make sense on non shuttle style vehicles.

Anonymous No. 16409188

>>16409176
Both, two sides of the same oldspace coin

Anonymous No. 16409189

>>16409185
To remind any foes, ULA has the most powerful lobbyists in Washington.
It is a warning.

Anonymous No. 16409191

>>16408696
>who will breed like rabbits
All the women will be 30+
I'm sorry to ruin your fantasy

Anonymous No. 16409193

>>16409191
Some of the offspring will have Down's Syndrome or other genetic mistakes, Mars policy is to cull these as soon as the deformity is spotted, we are NOT doing special education on goddamn Mars.
The spread of retardation is already complete, with Global coverage like Starlink has.

Anonymous No. 16409196

>>16409013
I'm no rocket scientist but I think this part is supposed to still be on the rocket during this phase of flight

Anonymous No. 16409197

>tfw the chef added too much cayenne pepper to the SRBs again

Anonymous No. 16409199

>>16409152
Priced it out once those GEM-63XL are ~6$ MILLION per booster in the best case scenario (VC6)

Anonymous No. 16409203

Ess Are Bees

Anonymous No. 16409204

>>16409176
LH2 is reasonable as 2nd and/or 3rd stage fuel when you want to go beyond Earth orbit
SRBs are only good for missiles

Anonymous No. 16409206

You can see the damaged nozzle disintegrate when it hits the main engine plume after separation. Thing was barely holding together.
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1842164787309936775

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Anonymous No. 16409207

>>16408807
We will adapt

Anonymous No. 16409209

>>16408712
You are gay

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Anonymous No. 16409211

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1842189834594779626

Anonymous No. 16409212

>>16408712
blue ring?

Anonymous No. 16409213

>>16408969
>outsource engine production
>get garbage engines
It sucks to suck

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Anonymous No. 16409214

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1842194041892405360

Anonymous No. 16409215

>>16409211
Easy, any and every black man, especially in government, can be bribed. It probably only took a low single digit millions number to accomplish.
Secretly, South Africa is super proud to have birthed a man like Elon, though they will never admit it. At least they're sensible enough to take the bribe and make exceptions to their stupid racist laws.

Anonymous No. 16409216

>>16409214
Could ULA just fly nlss payloads that don't need srbs? The rocket itself seemed fine.

Anonymous No. 16409217

fags

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Anonymous No. 16409218

>>16409214
>United Launch Alliance Successfully Launches Second Vulcan Certification Flight

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Anonymous No. 16409219

>>16409218
>The Cert-2 mission served as the second of two certification flights required for the U.S. Space Force’s certification process and ULA has now completed all requirements for certification. ULA continues to work closely with the U.S. Space Force as they take the next few weeks to review the data and compare it to ULA’s first certification mission to ensure that the vehicle performed as expected and there are no additional items that need review. Once the evaluation is complete to the Space Force's standards, the Vulcan rocket will be certified to launch national security missions.
>All rockets are not created equal. ULA is the nation’s most experienced, reliable and accurate launch service provider delivering unmatched value, a tireless drive to improve, and commitment to the extraordinary. Vulcan’s inaugural launch marked the beginning of a new era of space capabilities and provideshigher performance and greater affordability while offering the world’s only high energy architecture rocket to deliver any payload, at any time, directly to any orbit.

seems like they are just going to ignore the "observation"

Anonymous No. 16409220

>>16409214
>new era of capabilities
But what does it actually do

Anonymous No. 16409221

>>16409219
payload was delivered sucesfully. if there is an engine out on starship everyone says no big deal. so treat ula with same standards :)

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Anonymous No. 16409222

Guys, I had an observation during my drive to work, everything is nominal tho

Anonymous No. 16409225

It seems stupid trusting other companies with the most important part of the rocket

Anonymous No. 16409226

>>16409222
You got to work, that means everything went fine!

Anonymous No. 16409227

What's the next major launch? Europa Clipper?

Anonymous No. 16409229

>>16409221
so FAA investigation and 6 month delay?

Anonymous No. 16409230

>>16409222
As long as it reached destination!

Anonymous No. 16409232

>>16409229
there were never investigations about engine out events ons tarship, there were investigations about catastrophic failure every launch

Anonymous No. 16409234

>>16409229
At least 2 years, with the multiple lawsuits against numerous companies I am drafting up as we speak.
Also, the FAA will be sued for compromising public safety. A critical SRB explosion just 6 seconds in, and they DID NOT order the FTS trigger?
Not safe, and against their own fucking rules.

Anonymous No. 16409235

>>16409227
Hera and Clipper

Anonymous No. 16409236

>>16408877
No one wants union workers now that shelby is out of congress.

Anonymous No. 16409237

>>16409193
Is there a test yet for low functioning autism? Or will composting be allowed a few years after birth?

Anonymous No. 16409239

>>16409048
>Three words that cannot be used to describe Tory's taste in porn

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Anonymous No. 16409242

https://x.com/davill/status/1842197447432634657

Anonymous No. 16409243

For a ULA launch SRB failure is considered nominal because the whole company is designed to fail.

Anonymous No. 16409251

>>16409242
Amazing! Go Blue!

Anonymous No. 16409253

>>16409232
what if a SRB nozzle drops on a dolphin? ever thought about that

Anonymous No. 16409254

Well at least this launch demonstrated how capable the BE-4s are.

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Anonymous No. 16409257

https://x.com/AbelAvellan/status/1842181681790300282
>Ahead of schedule, see photo from last night! The first BlueBird is getting ready to operate. At 700 sq ft in area, our BlueBirds are the largest-ever commercial communications arrays in low Earth orbit, specially designed for space-based cellular broadband to everyday smartphones – Size matters!

Anonymous No. 16409258

>>16409253
It's the titanium crown of the new dolphin king

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Anonymous No. 16409260

>>16409257
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1842188507621790117

Anonymous No. 16409261

>>16409257
>>16409260
That's a big fuckin' satellite

Anonymous No. 16409263

>>16409260
lmao
astrofaggots on suicide watch

Anonymous No. 16409265

LEO constellations are evil.

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Anonymous No. 16409267

My conspiracy theory is that musk named his rocket starship just so brilliant pebbles is finally launched he can call it star wars.

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Anonymous No. 16409268

>>16409267
>conspiracy theory
that was always the plan anon

Anonymous No. 16409269

>>16409260
was it made by public enemy number 3, elon musk? no? then it's not a threat to astronomy

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Anonymous No. 16409271

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842201782040072352

Anonymous No. 16409274

>>16409242
there going for a black and white color scheme now? looks cooler, but so much for the gayass blue livery

Anonymous No. 16409276

funny how spacesex has done ZERO work on mitigating boiloff.

Anonymous No. 16409279

>>16409276
Probably unnecessary for methalox. Only a major issue for hydromeme.

Anonymous No. 16409280

>>16409260
Total astr*nomer death

Anonymous No. 16409284

>>16409279
it is an issue for methalox, believe me. Especially if they want it to last at least 6 months.

Anonymous No. 16409285

>>16409176
both together.
the sustainer 1st stage hydromeme paired with solid cockets are just a bad joke and it needs to stop being told already.

Anonymous No. 16409286

>>16409185
those are teeth, you already knew that when you chose to respond though, you're trying to push a narrative but nobody's buying it, lipfag.

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Anonymous No. 16409290

>>16409288
why does that delta ii have lips?

Anonymous No. 16409291

>>16409209
>instantly thinks of male on male when orgies are mentioned
sorry anon, but you're projecting, congrats on coming out of the closet.

Anonymous No. 16409292

>>16409271
He's not wrong. Anyone who says he is wrong on this one, is on par with flat earthers and other really stupid conspiracy theories, and should be rejected from any position of influence

Anonymous No. 16409293

>>16409212
where on the body?

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Anonymous No. 16409294

The failure appears to have originated somewhere in this assembly

Anonymous No. 16409297

the FAA offices need to be observed

Anonymous No. 16409298

>>16409294
Oh shit I see it, there's 2 defects, there in the blue coats

Anonymous No. 16409300

>>16409290
those are teeth you asshole.

Anonymous No. 16409301

>>16409232

>catastrophic failure every launch!!!

May we see the "catastrophic failure" on the most recent Starship launch?

Anonymous No. 16409302

Happy Sputnik anniversary day

Anonymous No. 16409303

>>16409297
the FAA orifices need to be observed

Anonymous No. 16409306

>>16409271
It's not that easy.
The FCC has to prove space to cell transmissions will not disrupt the very careful arrangement of various channels that the phones operate in (the "cell" part of the cell phone), so I imagine they're looking to see if Starlink is accurate enough to only beam down into a specific cell without causing interference in others.

Anonymous No. 16409307

>>16409284
>source: trust me bro

Anonymous No. 16409308

>>16409298
You have made a correct and notable observation.
This will be entered into evidence at the pending litigation trials to come.

Anonymous No. 16409309

>>16409284
Never been tried desu, like spin habs, on-orbit refueling, ship-sized solar sails etc.
It's almost like we've done nothing at all for the last few decades

Anonymous No. 16409310

gators and turtles

teeth and lips

wellfags or cylinderniggers

solarcunts and nuclearcunts

Anonymous No. 16409311

>>16409306
they could give out emergency authorization during disasters like this, what does interference matter if all the cell towers are fucked anyway?

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>>16409286
the things that looks like eyes are its mouths
the so-called teeth are eyelids

Anonymous No. 16409314

>>16409242
I don't understand. Why does a company that supposedly has a real rocket now want to keep operating a suborbital carnival ride?

>New Shepard is a fully reusable sub-orbital launch vehicle developed for space tourism by Blue Origin.
I will never stop laughing at this sentence.

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Anonymous No. 16409315

>>16409294
looks like only a small ring from the bell fell off, not the whole thing. is there a seam around here?

Anonymous No. 16409320

>>16409315
After everything else had burned off, yeah.

Anonymous No. 16409321

>>16409291
>imagine a ring of people
no, that dude is a fag
he's implying these are not all women
he's fantasizing about a bunch of dudes having sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYY9_k8zl74

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Anonymous No. 16409322

You think you hate boeing enough but you don't

Anonymous No. 16409323

Great news, Europa Clipper still target for 10/10 launch, sound like F9 deorbit issue are resolved and not big deal.

https://x.com/NASA_LSP/status/1842200426474619276

Anonymous No. 16409325

>>16409297
kek, based

Anonymous No. 16409327

>>16409323
going to be a busy 10/10 with europa clipper launch and teslas robotaxi event

Anonymous No. 16409331

>>16409286
Fuck off same fagging faggot. No one cares

Anonymous No. 16409333

>>16409322
sounds like it was NASA that fucked up here majorly
the requirements might have been retarded but NASA came up with something even more retarded

Anonymous No. 16409334

>>16409323
Question for Tory Bruno, how is the Europa Clipper launch not considered "high energy"?
I sure hope those Korean transistors that don't meet spec wont kill it upon arrival. Because it sure takes a long time to arrive...

Anonymous No. 16409335

>>16409334
To think by the time it will arrive there will be most likely be humans living on Mars.

Anonymous No. 16409336

>>16409322
>The new SRB was so much heavier that its lift capability was actually less than the lift capability of the 4-segment boosters used for the Space Shuttle and required a completely new chemical formulation for its propellant just to get back to, and then squeeze out a tiny little bit more lift capability than the reusable 4-segment boosters it replaced.
They say never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence but I'm having a hard time explaining this with incompetence.

Anonymous No. 16409337

>>16409334
it depends on how much SpaceX wants to expend their boosters, expendable FH performance is very high compared to currently available rockets

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Anonymous No. 16409342

>ULA

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Anonymous No. 16409344

>>16409323

Anonymous No. 16409351

>>16409314
>I don't understand
Because it's already developed and people are willing to pay to use it

Anonymous No. 16409352

>>16409306
FCC just approved Starlink DtC testing in several more states, don't seem like they worry about "interference" issue.

Anonymous No. 16409353

>>16409351
doesn't necessarily mean it's profitable to operate. but jeff is a savvy enough business man, I don't think he'd build a second if the first wasn't making money.

Anonymous No. 16409354

>>16409335
I love the vision

Anonymous No. 16409355

>>16409041
now show the one where the nozzle exploded, just like today's launch

Anonymous No. 16409360

newspace is so cringe

Anonymous No. 16409365

>>16409352
They literally had to allow some limited, non-profitable testing, at a snail's pace, because the companies that are trying to prevent DTC it are also planning to do the same fucking thing themselves, just later, so they wont stop it, just make it really really slow. Which especially pisses off Elon (with good reason) since they have already invested a lot in launching the damn things, well before the competition, who will have an inferior product.
Also those are the usual players, who have bribed congress to do whatever the fuck they want.

Anonymous No. 16409367

newspace is so based

Anonymous No. 16409369

The dunkings will continue until programs are canceled
https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/1842214254948364491

Anonymous No. 16409373

>>16409369
the programs will never be canceled as long as solid rockets are useful for large missiles (always).
you can't risk institutional knowledge for ICBMs going away during times of peace.

Anonymous No. 16409374

>>16409353
I don't think there's any chance of them making back their development budget but as long as they're flying more than one or two times a year it shouldn't be difficult to cover their operational costs. There's also a lot of sounding rocket payloads that would like to ride on a fully reusable vehicle if that makes their mission cheaper than launching on a Black Brant. Being the only company to run a semi-successful space tourism business isn't a bad look either.

Anonymous No. 16409379

>>16409374
>space tourism business
>doesn't go to space
>"tours" last a few seconds
>loses billions
none of those three words are accurate

Anonymous No. 16409381

>>16409373
then just keep test launching icbms so the institutional knowledge stays, would be more useful anyway and probably way more cost effective

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Anonymous No. 16409385

>>16409379
are you the "karman line isn't space" schizo or did you just get your suborbital joyride heights confused?

Anonymous No. 16409386

>>16409379
air ride charity

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Anonymous No. 16409389

>>16409385
>are you the "karman line isn't space" schizo
This describes half of /sfg/. The Karman line isn't space, it isn't even exoatmospheric.
No participation prizes.

Anonymous No. 16409390

>>16409342
OC like this is the lifeblood of this general

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Anonymous No. 16409393

lipnigs fucked up, you made him angry

Anonymous No. 16409395

>>16409369
>Scream it until their ears bleed: solar powered electric grids are unsafe
Good to see him become a nukechad

Anonymous No. 16409397

>>16409373
that was true in the past but SRBs for space applications are pretty different to what they use in DF-41s, Tridents or Topols. Completely different grain geometries and internal structures. It doesn't really preserve institutional knowledge even though it LOOKS similar.

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Anonymous No. 16409398

>>16409379
bigelow had the plan

inflatable space pods need to get to 100 meters diameter and spun to generate artifical gravity

this will be a space hotel or space office, an entire corporate boardroom could relocate to space and never have to worry about rioters upending their control over the economy

the wealthiest executives, the top designers and the best engineers will do all their work in orbit. ID software and Johnny Ive will have offices. Bitcoin billionaires will blow their fortunes just to work in the same megacomplex.

Anonymous No. 16409402

>>16409393
scary teeth

Anonymous No. 16409403

>Russians never use srbs
When did they figure out they suck?

Anonymous No. 16409404

>>16409393
one of the SRB nozzles need to be observed

Anonymous No. 16409408

>>16409403
they never really built many solid ICBM's either.
which was kind of a terrible idea in retrospect because hypergolics just aren't as good for long-term storage as solids are, most of their old ICBM stock is likely fucked by corrosion.

Anonymous No. 16409410

>>16409379
Posts like this prove that a meme-based understanding of the world isn't all that useful

Anonymous No. 16409412

>>16409398
I miss that crazy bustard, imagine if he got the shitliner funding to keep open for a few more years instead

Anonymous No. 16409413

>>16409404
shit you're right, working on it.

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Anonymous No. 16409415

>>16409393
fixed
2000 hours in mspaint

Anonymous No. 16409417

>>16409408
Russian (and older) Chinese ICBMs are actually left dry and only fueled when on heightened alert - which yeah is not a great idea when it comes to deterrence posture but they didn't master composites/alloys tech for solid booster casings until much later.

Anonymous No. 16409418

>>16409408
ok ukronigger. russia is suuuuure depleted of icbms. deluded shill.

Anonymous No. 16409420

>>16408565
Oh, right, thanks for reminding me that it was one of the worst forms of retardation.

Anonymous No. 16409426

>>16409415
lel

Anonymous No. 16409429

>"Two hundred and fifty tons of debris fell within 915 m (3,002 ft) of the launch pad, to include on the grounds of the nearby Air Force Space and Missile Museum. One piece of debris made a hole in a cable track, allowing smoke to enter the blockhouse."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_IIR-1

The last time a SRB exploded at Cape

Anonymous No. 16409431

>>16409429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTmb3Cqb2qw

Anonymous No. 16409432

>>16409410
Posts like this prove that some people actually believe an unprofitable meme rocket that doesn't go to space, funded by a billionaire as a hobby is a "semi-successful space tourism business"

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Anonymous No. 16409433

>>16409415
>>16409404
oh someone else already made an edit
well mine's flashier

Anonymous No. 16409436

>>16409418
why are you bringing up ukraine?
go back to /k/ or /pol/ obsessive faggot.

Anonymous No. 16409440

>>16409389
>exoatmospheric
By that definition a good chunk of the star link constellation dip out of space.
Space should be defined at an altitude of near-vacuum and where an orbit would encounter minimal atmospheric drag

Anonymous No. 16409441

Why haven't we gone back to the Moon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOmBvhsDvHg

Anonymous No. 16409442

>>16409433
Pretty great Halloween costume

Anonymous No. 16409443

>>16409415
kekt

Anonymous No. 16409444

>>16409432
>that doesn't go to space
It does, but even if it didn't people are still willing to pay to ride it or send their payloads up one it

>funded by a billionaire as a hobby
socialist hands typed these envious words

>semi-successful space tourism business
what would you call a business that makes enough cash to keep operating but can't make back it's initial investment?

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Anonymous No. 16409446

>>16409415

Anonymous No. 16409448

>>16409444
It's a vanity project with no useful purpose and you're delusional.

Anonymous No. 16409451

>>16409444
If you spent $10 million dollars making a solid gold toilet and charged people $5 to shit on it for laughs, that would not be an advance in sanitation technology or a profitable venture.

Bezos has of course wasted much more than that on New Shepard.

Anonymous No. 16409454

>>16409451
nice analogy faggot. shame it's retarded

Anonymous No. 16409458

>>16409448
New Shepard has flown over 150 microgravity payloads to date and has launched 32 paying passengers. Not worth the development budget? Sure. Are the rides on it unreasonably expensive? Almost certainly. But it's the idea that it has "no useful purpose" that's truly delusional.

>>16409451
And here we have another post showing why a meme-based understanding of the world isn't all that useful

Anonymous No. 16409460

>>16409458
a golden toilet has a useful purpose too, but if you use the term in that way it loses all meaning

Anonymous No. 16409461

>>16408688
Put it in the gender beutral bathroom too

Anonymous No. 16409463

>>16409461
someone should invent a space toilet for men that's like a well lubricaed dildo you slide up your butt and it slurps your poopies away while stimming your prostate (for fun)

Anonymous No. 16409464

Why haven't we gone back to the Moon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOmBvhsDvHg

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Anonymous No. 16409465

https://x.com/BCCarCounters/status/1842200123922637303

Anonymous No. 16409467

>>16409465
One of the training wheels going pop is very much an "incident".

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Anonymous No. 16409468

>>16409465
https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1842206815813038177

Anonymous No. 16409469

>>16409465
tory bruno is a good boy who supports kamala harris. no need to ground his rocket over a little thing like the nozzle falling off.

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Anonymous No. 16409470

>>16409468
https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1842217915329773681

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Anonymous No. 16409471

>>16409470

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Anonymous No. 16409472

>>16409471
https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1842211106464338045

Anonymous No. 16409476

we're at image limit, should we stage?
we won't be able to post any twitter screencaps or funny vulcan edits at this rate.

Anonymous No. 16409478

>>16409441
What stupid thing does he say in this video?
I'm at work with no speakers so I can't hear it.

Anonymous No. 16409482

>>16409476
yes

Anonymous No. 16409483

>>16409458
over 9000 people shit in my golden toilet
checkmate, muskrats

Anonymous No. 16409485

staging because of image limit hit

>>16409484
>>16409484
>>16409484
>>16409484
>>16409484
>>16409484

Anonymous No. 16409488

No

Anonymous No. 16409489

maybe

Anonymous No. 16409490

>>16409485
I don't like it but I'm not going to thread split about it.

Anonymous No. 16409491

>>16409472
tl:dr Vulcan is under old rules, as is Falcon 9 right now
Falcon Heavy and Starship are under new rules, which seem to be much stricter
at least the list of stuff that is designated as a mishap is much more specific and longer, but it seems kind of complicated and there might be instances where something that would be a mishap under the old rules is not one under the new rules. some of this is also directly under the interpretation of FAA (specifically 4,5 and 6 in the second screenshot that explains what is defined as a mishap under part 450, they explicitly say "determined by the FAA")

Anonymous No. 16409492

>>16409490
i'll be honest i just wanted to keep shitposting funny vulcan stuff, i felt like the latter half of this thread as it waits to hit page 11 without any images was going to be really dull, especially right after a launch.

Anonymous No. 16409497

>>16409288
looks like that Grogura vtuber

Anonymous No. 16409527

>>16409355
already posted
>>16409098

Anonymous No. 16409539

>>16408665
her face when penis inspecting >>16408652

Anonymous No. 16409613

Vulcan launched twice before Starship launched once

Anonymous No. 16409622

>>16409220
In one word? It redunds.

Anonymous No. 16409640

>>16409622
kek

Anonymous No. 16409642

>>16409613
starship already launched 4 succesful test flights.
you're probably a retard.

Anonymous No. 16409659

>>16409322
>Even the reusable 4-segment SRBs
In all fairness, reusing SRBs is a big gay meme.

Anonymous No. 16409661

>>16409432
>semi-successful
"succs" is half of successful, isn't it?

Anonymous No. 16409665

>>16409661
touche

Anonymous No. 16409668

>>16409642
*Test article

Anonymous No. 16409682

>>16409668
that changes nothing about the meaning of the sentence.

Anonymous No. 16409689

>>16409682
It's not a starship

Anonymous No. 16409697

>>16409689
it is a starship.
those were all starship superheavy flights.

Anonymous No. 16409699

>>16409697
Ok you were right all along

Anonymous No. 16409739

>>16409699
correct

Anonymous No. 16409754

That ULA thing is just a disgusting looking rocket honestly, SRBs protruding, nasty sagging diapers around the engines

Anonymous No. 16409764

>>16409268
Michael Griffin hates commercial space right now.

Anonymous No. 16409766

>>16409327
Dont forget McDonalds event as well. The most important

Anonymous No. 16409790

Just woke up

>it's just a routine nozzle detachment bro

lol lmao even.

>>16409754
Agree

Anonymous No. 16409909

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/ulas-second-vulcan-rocket-lost-part-of-its-booster-and-kept-going/
FAA will not require an investigation for Vulcan anamoly. Elon should have sucked off biden and lick the pussy of Mrs. Harris. Tony did, and it paid off

Anonymous No. 16409955

>>16409909
Holy fuck I hate the FAA.
Lamposts would be too good for these niggers.

Anonymous No. 16410006

>>16409955
Everything in its season. People are on the verge of shooting FEMA officials in Appalachia right now. We're currently closer to Things Happening than we've ever been

Anonymous No. 16410026

>>16409219
It's a Space Force licensed launch. The FAA can't do anything but shake a fist at them. That's why there's no grounding orders.

Anonymous No. 16410036

>>16409393
Kek

Anonymous No. 16410050

>>16408077
you really expect me to have a xwitter account? either post a screenshot or fuck off

Anonymous No. 16410060

>>16407751
LandSpace (dumb name) is by a wide margin the safest bet. They already made orbit with their Zhuque-2 and in doing so became the first methalox fueled orbital launcher in history, and Zhuque-3 has been in development for quite a while.
Notice how 3 of the other 4 launchers started off with solids and are just handwaving the pivot to liquid like it's a total non-issue, and more importantly at least 2 of those solids are just off the shelf military SRMs. LandSpace already have good working liquid engines that use the same fuel they intend for their reusable rocket, and they've proven they can get to orbit with 100% developed-in-house hardware rather than slapping a kickstage on a retired ICBM and calling it brand new. iSpace did have that implessive hopper test, the one that blew up... but LandSpace already had successful hopper tests before that. I don't imagine they'll achieve reuse on their first few flights; however, if the FAA drags their feet enough the first (partially) reusable orbital-class methalox rocket may end up being chinese.

Anonymous No. 16410083

>>16410060
Space Pioneer would be in the lead if they hadn't accidentally launched their first stage test hardware. I had LandSpace in the lead earlier on but SP is buying their engines from a CASC subsidiary which let them pull ahead. Now things are more of a tossup. I don't know if we've seen a fully assembled ZQ-3 first stage yet, but SP had a TL-3 S1 with a second well into assembly.

Anonymous No. 16410112

>>16408212
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/relativity-space-has-gone-from-printing-money-and-rockets-to-doing-what-exactly/

hard R might not even launch at this rate

Anonymous No. 16410129

>>16410112
I always said that Relativity should have just kept T1 flying as a marketing stunt while looking for customers for their giant object printing technology. If they're not building the tank walls, pressure domes, or fairings, are the engines the only parts of Terran R that they haven't outsourced?

Anonymous No. 16410183

>>16409754
Vulcan looked disgusting -SRBs protruding- in its sagging diapers on the launchpad. Very very disrespectful

Anonymous No. 16410391

>>16410006
Nothing ever happens, all in