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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16435718

Flight 6 soon Edition
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Anonymous No. 16435721

It's hard to deny the massive achievement of Mechazilla's catch the other day!

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Anonymous No. 16435729

Space suits are technically spacecraft right

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Anonymous No. 16435732

How bigly is Musk's entry into politics going to pay off for SpaceX when Trump wins?

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Anonymous No. 16435733

>>16435718
Threadly reminder that we haven't been back the ice giants since the voyager probes flew by

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Anonymous No. 16435738

>>16435474
Turns out when you start to mass produce engines and build the tanks out of stainless steel able to be weld together by your average car mechanic you can build the rocket for dirt cheap lel.

Anonymous No. 16435742

It's gonna have the government take away his Tesla subsidies, Saudis take away twitter, and the Antitrust Act take away SpaceX when Trump loses again.

Trump isn't serious about space anyway, a Trump win just means 4 more years of ISS jobs then NASA just ends as his handlers in Congress take over and dismantle it for more military spending and the US occupation of Iran, which is what Trump's owners really wants. You're not going to space with Trump. You're being drafted and paradropped into Tehran.

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Anonymous No. 16435744

>>16435742 meant for >>16435732

Anonymous No. 16435746

Now that SpaceX has perfected the super-heavy booster & Starship, whats their next even bigger project? Is it just going to be the enlarged Starship versions or are they going to come out with something that makes Starship & super-heavy look puny?

Also what happens to Falcon now that Starship is fully functional?
If Starship can do the equivalent of 10 Falcon launches in one go then is there a market for Starship to launch as frequently as Falcon has been doing?

Anonymous No. 16435751

>>16435746
Based 2032 poster

Anonymous No. 16435753

>>16435746
>If Starship can do the equivalent of 10 Falcon launches in one go then is there a market for Starship to launch as frequently as Falcon has been doing?
Who knows what market opportunities will be created when LEO is dirt cheap to access. Starlink already is the first example of it and is projected to be a 100 Billion dollar market in the next few years. Would be cool to see some new forms of manufacturing based around microgravity.

Anonymous No. 16435754

>>16435742
This is the worst post on all of /sci/ right now, just a fractally garbage take.

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Anonymous No. 16435756

"And... It's gone."

Next manned Starliner looks like it's off the schedule. According to the article, the corrupt NASA administration may be trying to throw Boeing a cargo mission as a bailout/bribe to keep the program going.

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Anonymous No. 16435764

> Axiom has configured the spacesuit with a dark outer layer created by Esther Marquis, the costume designer for the alternate space history series "For All Mankind."

So, our Universes are starting to merge.

Anonymous No. 16435765

>>16435754
Trump isn't winning. Musk's best friends have always been on the left. It's Democrats who subsidize his Tesla cars, $8,000 per car in direct cash aid to buyers. It's Democrats who want to spend billions on space missions that require his spacecraft, and it's Democrats that mandated his solar panels/powerwalls on all new homes built in California.

Musk's turn to people who think electric cars are gay and that earth is flat is retarded. He's retarded. His business is much bigger than him, and he represents it poorly. This will become clearer in about two months when he finds himself having to justify all of Trump's anti-science, anti-space, anti-NASA rhetoric while justifying new NASA missions. Democrats can cook up a 2nd SpaceX with subsidies in the exact same way Obama gave him billions to make SpaceX, and Republicans don't believe in SpaceX period.

He's made some bad decisions. SpaceX can stand on it's own without him regardless.

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Anonymous No. 16435766

Their earlier For All Mankindish version.

Anonymous No. 16435768

>>16435765
Where did you get this pasta from? Reddit?

Anonymous No. 16435770

>>16435768
I own a Tesla and got $8,000 from liberals to buy it. $4,000 from the Federal govt and $4,000 from the state of California. Tesla is the core of California's gas car ban, which will be complete in 2035. 2035 is ten years from now.

Only liberal, democratic states are banning gas cars and requiring Musk's product. Musk going for Trump, the guy who wants to ban California from doing this, is enormously stupid.

Anonymous No. 16435771

> The suit accommodates a wide range of crewmembers, including males and females from the first to 99th percentile.

So the "No Fat Chicks" rule remains in effect.

Anonymous No. 16435780

>>16435770
If you're so much smarter than Musk how come he is so much more successful than you?

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Anonymous No. 16435783

>>16435780

Anonymous No. 16435784

>>16435780
He isn't more successful than me. My son isn't a tranny.

Anonymous No. 16435785

>>16435780
That's not the point being made. SpaceX is bigger than Musk.

Anonymous No. 16435786

>>16435785
>SpaceX is bigger than Musk.
Midwit take

Anonymous No. 16435787

>>16435785
SpaceX is Musk. Only reason it's allowed to do all this shit is because he go the majority of voting shares, kept it privately held and is the CEO. The minute this stops being the case you can so goodbye to SpaceX.

Anonymous No. 16435789

>>16435785
>>16435787
>SpaceX is Musk.
And its not just the voting shares of which he has ~75% or so, but also he's the chief engineer and has a critical role in SpaceX not only in the past, but also present and future.

Anonymous No. 16435790

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-g5-LJ5KZM
for anyone that has actually read ignition! then this video will tickle your pickle

Anonymous No. 16435795

>>16435790
I was wondering when this guy would upload again, I don't normally follow YouTube but I like this guy's aussie meth lab chemistry, cool that his video is somewhat /sfg/ related

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Anonymous No. 16435796

>>16435718
it's either going to explode again or destroy the tower. screenshot this because i can predict the future

Anonymous No. 16435797

>>16435796
If you can predict the future, why can't you say for certain if it will explode again or destroy the tower? There should be no "either" if your prediction is definitive.

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Anonymous No. 16435825

Why are normalfags like this? The Martian is one of the stupidest films ever made.

Anonymous No. 16435828

>>16435729
They are human-shaped spacecraft.
>>16435733
We're long overdue for more missions to Uranus and Neptune.

Anonymous No. 16435832

>>16435825
One must be genuinely retarded if they believe Gravity and fucking Interstellar was more realistic than the Martian. The most insulting shit the Martian did in terms of realism was having that dust storm in the beginning being so strong.

Anonymous No. 16435836

>>16435825
b-but, I like The Martian :(, I'm very much aware that the dust storm thing right at the beginning was completely unrealistic, but I think everyone just has to accept it as a plot device and move on. Just think of it as an alternative universe exactly as our own, except that such storms can occur there. Also, it really does show us an interesting glimpse into a timeline where oldspace woke up just when SpaceX was starting, and put in the real effort to get us to Mars, albeit in a kinda inefficient way, thus rendering Musk's efforts not that relevant in this world. Consider it oldspace's last big accomplishment in fiction, before SpaceX came along in real life and disrupted the industry forever, while at the same time creating a turning point in space fiction. Nowadays if you don't take SpaceX or Musk into consideration for these kind of stories, you might as well consider them unrealistic.

Anonymous No. 16435845

>>16435825
They're all shit anon what are you on about?

Anonymous No. 16435847

>>16435845
Yes, but the Martian was downright insulting.
>>16435832
>>16435836
The Martian literally opens with a red sunset. Everything about it is wrong.

Anonymous No. 16435849

>>16435836
Forgot to mention, although SpaceX is not exactly mentioned in Andy Weir's book, they do show up in a promotional piece for the movie, expanding the lore for it. Remember that the book was published in 2011 (writing began in 2009!), while the movie came out in 2015. They basically had their own space station, and helped construct the Hermes spacecraft.
https://www.docdroid.net/Zxk9zKw/the-martian-ares-3-mission-guide-pdf
>The Hermes was assembled in low Earth orbit with the new SpaceX Station serving as an assembly platform. Individual parts were transported to the station piece by piece.
So basically by 2015, when they started trying landing their first rockets, they were considered important enough that they kinda retconned the story a bit, and decided to include them.

Anonymous No. 16435850

>>16435836
Nothing works without the dust storm. The entire movie falls about without dangerously high winds to keep it aloft.

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Anonymous No. 16435851

>>16435849
That Hermes ship is classic old-space jank, I love it.

Anonymous No. 16435853

>>16435790
>you now remember the pickle rick tweet

Anonymous No. 16435854

>>16435847
>The Martian literally opens with a red sunset. Everything about it is wrong.
Compared to falling into black holes and entering the gravitational gateway to your daughter's bedroom lmao?

Anonymous No. 16435855

>>16435847
Autism

Anonymous No. 16435856

>>16435854
Ok what about Gravity. That's pretty realistic in comparison.

Anonymous No. 16435857

>>16435854
I've never fallen into a black hole, maybe that's how it works. I have seen pictures of the sunset on Mars and it's not red.

Anonymous No. 16435861

>>16435849
Interesting bit of an interview with Andy Weir, stating why had he included SpaceX, there would've been no plot basically lol
>Q: SpaceX never appears in your book. Instead, there are the more traditional aerospace companies like Boeing and Lockheed Martin. That surprised me.
>You have to remember that I started writing this in 2009, and they were not a proven company then. If I was writing it now, SpaceX would be in there but I would have to come up with a reason why they couldn’t help out with the mission. They might be too fast. I wanted the cooperation of the Chinese to be in there in some desperate situations and to depend on their rockets. That was a plot element I wanted.
And notice that he said this 9 years ago...

Anonymous No. 16435862

>>16435856
Have you seen the fucking orbital mechanics in that movie? It's god awful. The stay stole the whole opening scene from freaking Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 lmao

Anonymous No. 16435865

>>16435862
You're prepared to make endless excuses for Le Martian, why not Gravity?

Anonymous No. 16435868

>>16435865
Having a too powerful dust storm or the special effects guys fuck up and make the sunset red instead of blue is nothing compared to seeing Geroge Clooney somehow being able produce inertia out of nothing lmao.

Anonymous No. 16435870

>>16435868
>Geroge Clooney somehow being able produce inertia out of nothing
nta you were talking to, but for some reason this is the only scene that I vividly remember from that movie lmao

Anonymous No. 16435873

>>16435746
In orbit assembly, or if you prefer, space welding

Mars missions will necessitate giant modular ships that cannot be launched in one piece from earth and simple docking will not be enough to tie them together

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Anonymous No. 16435874

>>16435851

Anonymous No. 16435876

>>16435868
>Geroge Clooney somehow being able produce inertia out of nothing lmao
It's called QI and it is more logical than standard cosmology

Anonymous No. 16435884

>>16435876
Except for the part where it gives wrong answers to known cosmology.

Anonymous No. 16435885

>>16435884
that's because known cosmology is wrong, not QI

Anonymous No. 16435887

>>16435885
That's not how logical deduction works. Allegations of falsehood need to be backed by evidence.

Anonymous No. 16435918

>>16435742
I don't know if you are being retarded on purpose
anyway, extremely retarded post
fractally wrong is appropriate as the other anon said
wrong assumptions and taking the wrong conclusions from these
basically every single thing is wrong

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Anonymous No. 16435922

Good night /sfg/, dont let the e*rthers bite.

Anonymous No. 16435924

>>16435887
If QI is false, how was George Clooney able to move himself without propellant

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Anonymous No. 16435928

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846586218726990132
I wonder why he thought they had such a low chance on each catch attempt, that translates to like 40-60% of succeeding on each attempt (even if you increase the chance after each one somewhat)

Anonymous No. 16435929

>>16435922
see you tomorrow

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Anonymous No. 16435933

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846705187286557113

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Anonymous No. 16435935

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846689569556558234

Anonymous No. 16435936

>>16435732
its just going to remove the bureucracy somewhat
its not really about speeding up or paying off thats the thing here, its about the alternative being actively harmful and slowing things down on multiple fronts

perhaps the trump admin will give some new mission to NASA targeting mars using SpaceX stuff, but that doesn't really matter
SpaceX will do it whether they get a contract for a few bil or not, its not like they really need it
the critical factor is to get the obstructing bureucrats out of the way and the choices are:
Trump (mostly indifferent) vs Kamala (actively hostile)

Anonymous No. 16435940

>>16435732
Literally nobody will show up.

Anonymous No. 16435941

>>16435940
wanna bet?

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Anonymous No. 16435945

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846771166561657328

Anonymous No. 16435946

>>16435940
Just like your birthday parties?

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Anonymous No. 16435948

>>16435729
no they are spaceplanes

Anonymous No. 16435949

>>16435946
I dont have birthday parties because Im not a fetus. Have regular parties, faggot.

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Anonymous No. 16435953

>>16435945
Elon no!

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Anonymous No. 16435961

>>16435953

Anonymous No. 16435962

>>16435756
lol so the crew side is over then

Anonymous No. 16435963

>>16435928
Probably due to the sheer number of things that could preclude an attempt at the last moment like a failed relight or some other anomaly. Also concerns about the chopsticks on tower A being too long and heavy, which remains true. A lot of work was done on them between then and now adding even more complexity.

>>16435933
So launch them on Falcon 9?

>>16435936
>Trump (mostly indifferent)
Perhaps Trump the person might be, but Trump the politician created the USSF and brought back the NSC. SpaceX succeeding and being at the forefront of space exploration plays into his America first mantra and he would love to be able to take credit for removing bureaucratic roadblocks. He can immediately order the installation commander at Vandenberg to ignore the coastal commission and proceed with the increased launch cadence.

Anonymous No. 16435964

>>16435765
>Democrats can cook up a 2nd SpaceX with subsidies in the exact same way Obama gave him billions to make SpaceX, and Republicans don't believe in SpaceX period.
LMAOO, you are absolutely delusional

Anonymous No. 16435965

>>16435770
it doesnt matter, EVs will become the dominant form of transport not because of subsidies or banning of ICE but because they will simply become the clearer better choice
better in any way and substantially cheaper, right now some of them are already cheaper from a TCO perspective but in the future they will become cheaper looking at the sticker price too, it just takes a while for the masses to adjust

Anonymous No. 16435966

>>16435789
yeah, he chose the steel + landing on the chopsticks despite pushback from most of his engineers for instance

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Anonymous No. 16435971

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846826452282479012

reminder that mobile launch tower 2 for SLS costs about as much as the complete contract NASA gave to SpaceX for HLS
the people have no idea how corrupt and incompetent the SLS shit is

Anonymous No. 16435972

>>16435971
more specifically 2.7bil for the tower vs 2.9bil for a massive moon lander

Anonymous No. 16435973

https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2024/10/02/sls-is-still-a-national-disgrace/

SLS defenders need to be humiliated every chance possible

Anonymous No. 16435974

>>16435825
most is comparative nigga
are you autistic?

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Anonymous No. 16435975

>>16435971
>Effectively

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Anonymous No. 16435976

>>16435975
But whatvif no soelling error?

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Anonymous No. 16435978

fags

Anonymous No. 16435979

>>16435965
Bu-but hydrogen fuel cells!

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Anonymous No. 16435980

>>16435953
>>16435953
get ready for another 2 weeks of hanging out with Bibi

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Anonymous No. 16435983

>>16435933
I think I know why a french dude is so unhinged on /pol/ about SpaceX
glanced over a few threads about SpaceX/Musk after the chopstick landings and a french flag with EDS seemed to be in every thread
lmao

Anonymous No. 16435985

>>16435963
>So launch them on Falcon 9?
Its a news story about Airbus laying off workers, SpaceX and Elon Musk are specifically mentioned as causes why they lost 1.5b during the last two years in their space sector because of the competition
they didn't mention the launch business specifically but I think F9 is probably precisely the problem, its demolishing Ariane 5 and 6s market now

Anonymous No. 16435986

>>16435963
> Trump the politician created the USSF and brought back the NSC
yeah good point, in that respect they do have an interest in making USA even more powerful from a space perspective

Anonymous No. 16435989

No way New Glenn is going to be launched in November, how can a company that never went to orbit expect to go to orbit in the span of one month? Insane.

Anonymous No. 16435993

>>16435965
EVs will remain a niche

Anonymous No. 16435999

>>16435980
You scratch my back, I will scratch yours, right?
Mission accomplished, with the right friends.
Or at least, permission.
Back have been stabbed...

Anonymous No. 16436000

>>16435993
Wrong.

Anonymous No. 16436009

>>16435993
its simply economics, people will choose EVs due to money (and later self-driving ride hail will supersede owned EVs mostly)
ICE will be for enthusiasts a bit like horses now

Anonymous No. 16436018

>>16436009
>ICE will be for enthusiasts a bit like horses now
There's a bit of this already with driving a manual

Anonymous No. 16436025

>>16435764
Get that ugly, fucked up italian flag the fuck off of my space suit please, prada

Anonymous No. 16436027

>>16435766
Wow! Looks like shit!

Anonymous No. 16436032

>>16436009
Maybe 70 km range golf carts in Asian bug hives. EVs with usable range for America contain extra half-ton of materials and will never be cheaper than air breathing cars.
Ambient O2 is literally free energy and EVs cannot compete with that physical reality.

Anonymous No. 16436035

>>16436032
you are simply ignorant and wrong

Anonymous No. 16436039

>>16435756
>>16435962
So what are they going to do with all those old rockets that they've reserved for shitliner launches?

Anonymous No. 16436042

>>16435825
At least it has some concept of orbital mechanics, unlike Gravity.
>but muh high-rez see-gee-eyes
If those were the only three poll options, it's like asking "which candy tastes best?"
>shit
>poop
>feces

Anonymous No. 16436059

>>16436032
>EVs cannot compete with that physical reality.
you're right, they can't compete when every ICEFAG is a complete retard

Anonymous No. 16436061

>>16436039
Probably sell them for cheap to someone else. More kuiper?

Anonymous No. 16436064

>>16435854
BRO, ITS SO REALISTIC BRO. DID YOU EVEN KNOW THEY ASKED A PHYSICIST ABOUT THAT SCENE AND HE SAID YEAH!!!!1!!

Anonymous No. 16436067

>>16436042
the reentry scene in gravity was pretty good. if the ho drowned at the end and was killed by gravity (the titile of the film) then it would have been artistic excellence, but of course they had to have a happy ending and ruin it.

Anonymous No. 16436077

>>16436032
>reee it's bad if you can't drive from NY to Florida in one sitting!!!

Why do boomers always say this when they have to get up to pee every hour anyway?

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Anonymous No. 16436079

anyone else impressed by the glide ratio on this thing

Anonymous No. 16436082

>>16436079
what is there to be impressed about? a stupid steel can falls back to the earth. WOOOOOW....

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Anonymous No. 16436083

https://x.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1846797392521167223

https://x.com/julianibarz/status/1846801329030934944

https://x.com/_milankovac_/status/1846803709281644917

https://x.com/AnandSwa/status/1846800351330291819

Anonymous No. 16436086

>>16435714
>t. former-spacexer
we have those here??

Anonymous No. 16436088

>>16435718
What's their job position called?

Anonymous No. 16436093

>>16435714
why did you leave?

Anonymous No. 16436094

>>16436083
has it been trained to have sex with a person yet?

Anonymous No. 16436096

>>16436042
fucking kek

Anonymous No. 16436098

>>16436083
>still not sprinting through an obstacle course that changes each time

Anonymous No. 16436100

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMgpD3gj1o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnUfuogBOw0

Anonymous No. 16436104

>>16436083
But every news outlet is writing how Musk got HUMILIATED for stealing iRobot design and remote controlling them.

Anonymous No. 16436106

>>16435971
>musk saw handmer's blog
How hard do you think he's cumming

Anonymous No. 16436109

>>16436083
>>16436104
>Anand Swaminathan

Anonymous No. 16436117

did they do an interview with the guys that went on the first civilian flight with spacex after they came back?

Anonymous No. 16436120

>>16436117
you mean inspiration 4? they made documentaries about it
if you mean polaris dawn, then yes there are plenty of post flight interviews from that too

Anonymous No. 16436121

>>16435742
18m Starships when?

Anonymous No. 16436122

>>16436120
no motherfucker i mean that one who rode on falcon 1 flight 5 all them years ago.

Anonymous No. 16436124

>>16436120
alright found it

Anonymous No. 16436125

>>16436121
two more weeks

Anonymous No. 16436127

>>16435771
Based

Anonymous No. 16436138

>>16436122
what the fuck

Anonymous No. 16436140

>>16435973
JFC, easy to guess that piece of shit was taking the budgets from a lot of other projects at NASA, but not absolutely killing everything else the entire organisation does this much. Utterly fucking insane

Anonymous No. 16436146

>>16435825
>argues about how realistic fiction is
Are you an infant?

Anonymous No. 16436150

>>16435868
>ゲロゲ
I laffed

Anonymous No. 16436151

>>16435825
Despite it being a major plot point of the movie, sts and tiangon were never operational at the same time.

Anonymous No. 16436156

>>16436151
its an alternate history dawg. apart from that the movie is competely sound.

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Anonymous No. 16436157

>>16436042
poop>feces>shit

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Anonymous No. 16436161

>>16435928
With a probability p of success in one attempt, the expected number of tries until success is 1/p, so three tries until success corresponds to 1/3 chance of success in one try.

Anonymous No. 16436164

>>16435933
Hopefully their rotten way of life and terrible ideologies will go along with them when Europe collapses for the last time.

Seriously, does the rest of the world need Europe for anything? Spaceflight doesn't.

Anonymous No. 16436165

>>16436158
needs a Saturn V paint job

Anonymous No. 16436167

>>16436164
Please no! Some of my friends live there!

Anonymous No. 16436169

>>16435732
>home of the 1st Wawa
I love how this is the most significant fact about that place.

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Anonymous No. 16436171

https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-announces-us-industry-partnerships-to-advance-moon-mars-technology/
>As NASA prepares to land humans on the Moon by 2024 with the Artemis program, commercial companies are developing new technologies, working toward space ventures of their own, and looking to NASA for assistance. NASA has selected 13 U.S. companies for 19 partnerships to mature industry-developed space technologies and help maintain American leadership in space.
>SpaceX will work with Glenn and Marshall to advance technology needed to transfer propellant in orbit, an important step in the development of the company’s Starship space vehicle.

Anonymous No. 16436172

>>16436171
Why the fuck are they still using renders of altair when HLS has been starship for 3 years now?

Anonymous No. 16436173

>>16436077
I had to recharge a rental in the middle of an overnight 150 mile drive because of a cancelled flight, barely made it to a charging station and had to wait for fucking hours for the shitbox to charge.

If you have to drive a short range car it will fuck you sooner or later.

Anonymous No. 16436177

>>16435933
>space conquest technology
I like it, musk should start using that himself.

Anonymous No. 16436178

>>16436157
Flight 5 > Flight 4 > Flight 3 > Flight 2 > Flight 1

Anonymous No. 16436180

>>16436172
Like I said last thread, NASA is pretending Starship doesn't exist. It changes nearly everything they do in a way that would be very painful. 4U

Anonymous No. 16436181

>>16436171
by 2024?

Anonymous No. 16436182

>>16436181
>articles from 2019
kek

Anonymous No. 16436183

>>16436181
>>16436172
look it's a 2019 article lmao

Anonymous No. 16436185

>>16435983
they are often flat earthers and/or moonlanding deniers on /pol/. think i know the frenchanon you mean.

Anonymous No. 16436187

Expendable vehicles make everything easier. If NASA had not gotten tied to the STS LEO bus and oldspace leadership was as dynamic and ambitious as SpaceX, then Mars 1980 would have been a goal rather than a fantasy, and Mars 1919 would have been a reality. Most normies actually think that reality happened. They take for granted that humans landed on Mars at some point and that people visit the moon a lot.

Anonymous No. 16436188

>>16436180
just checked their most recent news, literally nothing about starship at all, just clipper and DEI outreach trash

Anonymous No. 16436190

>>16436187
*Mars 1990 not 1919

Anonymous No. 16436192

>>16436187
the shuttle and its consequences

Anonymous No. 16436195

>>16435993
until the range and longevity of the storage/generation mechanism rivals combustion engines i think you're correct.

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Anonymous No. 16436196

>Most High-density Exoplanets Are Unlikely to Be Remnant Giant-planet Cores
>Some exoplanets have much higher densities than expected from stellar abundances of planet-forming elements. There are two theories - metal-rich formation hypothesis and naked core hypothesis - that explain how formation and evolution can alter the compositions and structures of rocky planets to diverge from their primordial building blocks. Here, we revisit the naked core hypothesis, which states that high-density planets are remnant cores of giant planets that remain in a fossil-compressed state, even after envelope loss....We find that some high-density exoplanets can still possibly be naked cores, but the probabilities are lower than ∼1/2 and ∼1/3 for the ice giant and gas giant scenario, respectively, in 95% of the cases. We conclude that most high-density exoplanets are unlikely to be remnant giant-planets cores.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.12640
then wtf are these ultra dense planets?

Anonymous No. 16436199

>>16436077
>pee every hour anyway?
lol. it must be a (you)r bladder problem

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Anonymous No. 16436203

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-17/michael-bloomberg-nasa-s-artemis-moon-mission-is-a-colossal-waste

https://archive.is/LvAzW

Anonymous No. 16436204

>>16436196
Mercury is a gas giant core.

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Anonymous No. 16436208

>>16436104
Just the usual propaganda channels programming their drones

Anonymous No. 16436209

>>16436203
>By Michael R. Bloomberg
eh. do you think Elon got him spacepilled

Anonymous No. 16436211

>>16436209
Cant trust him fully given Bloomberg publishes so many anti-Tesla and anti-Musk propaganda articles

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Anonymous No. 16436212

peak control room aesthetics

Anonymous No. 16436214

>>16436203

I'm down to shit on Artemis but it seems like this fat cat doesn't want to land people on the moon at all

Anonymous No. 16436217

>>16436203
>complexity
In Artemis terms this is code for
>Starship launches and refills too many times

Anonymous No. 16436223

>>16436209
If you actually read the article then you'll see this is not a spacepilled criticism of artemis.

Anonymous No. 16436225

>>16436223
>The problems start with the mission, which is more political than scientific. There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannot. Technology has come a long way since 1969, to put it mildly. We do not need another person on the moon to collect rocks or take scientific measurements. And the costs of putting people on the moon — and of planning for their potential rescue, should complications arise — are truly astronomical.
Yeah, dudes actively anti-space

Anonymous No. 16436228

>>16436223
don't read things written by jews but good to know

Anonymous No. 16436231

>>16435732
But he's a terrible speaker. Negative charisma.
Does he not know this?

Anonymous No. 16436232

>>16436231
is that why he can convince armies of people to follow him to the ends of the earth?

Anonymous No. 16436233

>>16436231
get a grip tranny.

Anonymous No. 16436235

>>16436165
Paint is 2heavy.

Anonymous No. 16436241

has anyone ever voiced a good reason asto why they removed the white paint on the shuttle ET?
That paint was clearly structural, as evidenced by all the foam falling off when it wasnt painted. Funny how that wasnt a problem on the first 3 flights....

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Anonymous No. 16436242

>give a realistic estimate of a Mars landing in the 2040s
>/sfg/ reeeeees uncontrollably
embarrassing tbph

Anonymous No. 16436243

>>16436241
That wasn't the point, it was thermal stuff, they thought the hydrologs would evap too unless it was white.

Anonymous No. 16436244

>>16436242
>calls it realistic
>not actually working on any rocket that goes to mars
>not actually making anything that would go to mars
>spins up wild fantasy "realistic" takes without any grounding and without any account of external forces
armchair

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Anonymous No. 16436247

>>16436235
just once, pls, it would be kino

Anonymous No. 16436248

>>16436243
the paint served multiple purposes. the insulation was never suppsoed to be exposed to the air. Of course foam will peel off if exposed to supersonic airflow

Anonymous No. 16436249

>>16436242
why do you spam him here? I know you are the one who links every video he posts multiple times. what do you get out of using a website full of people who would gleefully kill you?

Anonymous No. 16436250

>>16436242
this shilling has to be ironic shitposting at this point lol

Anonymous No. 16436252

A Tour of the Lunar South Pole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnv9ZQ0wfaw&t

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Anonymous No. 16436253

X37B is having fun

Anonymous No. 16436254

>>16436247
We're getting white paint on HLS.

Anonymous No. 16436255

>>16436244
The kid literally just spits out his baseless opinion with no explanation or sources and presents it as fact. His Mars landing by 2050 point is exclusively because he wants it to happen after Elon is dead

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Anonymous No. 16436256

>>16436250

Anonymous No. 16436257

STOP POSTING KIKEPLANET

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Anonymous No. 16436258

space exploration?

Anonymous No. 16436260

>>16436255
oh now i realized its just another retard literalwho spammer

Anonymous No. 16436261

>>16436253
Whatever heat shielding it uses, SpaceX needs that. The current shuttle tiles on Starship cant survive entry from anything higher than LEO

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Anonymous No. 16436263

Pads are springing up like mushrooms at Jiuquan.

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>>16436252

Anonymous No. 16436265

>>16436263
China is desperate for launch capacity

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Anonymous No. 16436267

Kinetica 2 crunch test

Anonymous No. 16436268

>>16436263
based changs, chinks on the moon is only a good thing at this point

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Anonymous No. 16436269

cute small french (Sirius space) methalox engine
They want to cluster 42 of them together kek

Anonymous No. 16436270

>>16436267
is it ok

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Anonymous No. 16436273

>>16436268
slants on the moon would begin an immediate inquest on the part of the dumb-as-doorknobs median voters in this country as to why they beat us back. Once the obvious answer becomes clear, the weak elements of our space program can be purged.

Anonymous No. 16436274

>>16436273
exactly

Anonymous No. 16436276

>>16436250
when a jewish tranny is shoving a dildo up his ass in front of you on a regular occasion it's no longer trolling

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Anonymous No. 16436277

>le chink moon shock meme
oh boy!

Anonymous No. 16436282

>>16435971
btw is this the first time Musk has shat on SLS?

Anonymous No. 16436283

>>16436282
Almost certainly not.

Anonymous No. 16436284

Barnard's Star is so back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiR93GN74uQ

Anonymous No. 16436286

Total Kyplanet-poster death

Anonymous No. 16436288

I'm going to eat my own ass

Anonymous No. 16436291

Is Tang actually any good? wanted to import some and try it

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Anonymous No. 16436292

https://x.com/xDaily/status/1846902888968183837

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-17/musk-s-empire-risks-being-targeted-by-eu-for-potential-x-fines
>The European Union has warned X that it may calculate fines against the social-media platform by including revenue from Elon Musk’s other businesses, including Space Exploration Technologies Corp. and Neuralink Corp., an approach that would significantly increase the potential penalties for violating content moderation rules.
>Under the EU’s Digital Services Act, the bloc can slap online platforms with fines of as much as 6% of their yearly global revenue for failing to tackle illegal content and disinformation or follow transparency rules. Regulators are considering whether sales from SpaceX, Neuralink, xAI and the Boring Company, in addition to revenue generated from the social network, should be included to determine potential fines against X, people familiar with the matter said, asking not to be identified because the information isn’t public.

Anonymous No. 16436293

>>16436292
Fuck the EU.

Anonymous No. 16436295

>>16436292
Salty yuropoors just trying to eliminate the competition

Anonymous No. 16436298

>>16436292
Is this normal? I've never heard about a business being targeted because they're owned by the same people as another business before the brazilian thing.

Anonymous No. 16436300

>>16436292
>Piercing the veil in such a public and obvious manner
Christ what is brussels thinking.

Anonymous No. 16436301

>>16436298
No, it's not normal. They're angry about their control mechanisms being undermined and their graft sources being competed out of existence.

Anonymous No. 16436302

>>16436298
no, this sounds like some eu commissars power fantasy and doesn't even sound legal
but the EU has been doing all kind of retarded shit so I wouldn't say its impossible

Anonymous No. 16436303

>>16436292
Abort the Orion nuclear battleship over Europe

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Anonymous No. 16436305

>>16436269
It'd be great if they can finish it before Avio completes the M10. That bitch of an engine has been in development since 2007.

Anonymous No. 16436306

>>16436292
if elon kneeled to brazil, he will kneel to EU

Anonymous No. 16436307

>>16436303
but I live here, do it over brussels please

Anonymous No. 16436308

>>16436292
Euro brain drain is the great filter
All civilizations out there in space probably form their own form of Western society, which undoubtedly falls to no enemy but itself if given enough time

Anonymous No. 16436309

How the United States will Colonize Space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj8ELS6NQbk&t

Anonymous No. 16436310

>>16436306
he already said he will start a very public court case about this if it happens

Anonymous No. 16436311

>>16436309
By nuking europe and africa and tel aviv
now buy an ad already

Anonymous No. 16436315

>>16436310
He will fight for a bit and then back down, like he always does

Anonymous No. 16436318

>>16436309
>>16436284

kill yourself

Anonymous No. 16436320

>>16436315
I would say him backing down is an exception, just because it happened recently with Brazil doesn't make it common, i.e. he is campaigning for Trump in Pennsylvania right now
that isn't backing down, he didn't back down with the advertisers in the US, didn't back down with vision only for FSD, didn't back down with tower catch or any number of things

Anonymous No. 16436322

>>16436320
That's US, but he has no power in any other country

Anonymous No. 16436323

>>16436315
>>16436320
What happened with the Brazil situation?

Anonymous No. 16436328

>>16436323
apparently X appointed a person, paid the fines and banned the accounts that the judge wanted to, though I haven't looked into it too much

Anonymous No. 16436329

>>16436292
It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
To call upon a neighbour and to say: --
"We invaded you last night -- we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away."

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask ti explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say: --
"Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away."

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!"

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Anonymous No. 16436332

>>16436328
https://x.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1843773083783471139

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/09/21/musk-backs-down-in-brazil-x-may-return-after-compiling-with-court-orders/
>X’s lawyers said in a Friday court filing cited by the Times that X complied with the orders asking the social network to remove accounts accused of engaging in disinformation, as well as demands from the Supreme Court regarding fines and the assignment of a new legal representative for X in Brazil.

Anonymous No. 16436333

however the brazil situation did show the world how censorious they are, even if X did comply in the end
without this, almost nobody would have known

Anonymous No. 16436334

>>16435732
Well let's just hope Trump wins, because of the other side wins he's fucked. Democrats are known to be spiteful and petty towards their political enemies.

Anonymous No. 16436335

>>16436333
It also showed how you make elon cave, by targetting his other companies, thats why the EU is doing this.

Anonymous No. 16436336

>>16435742
>It's gonna have the government take away his Tesla subsidies
I think they'll be just fine. Tesla is selling cars like crazy.

Anonymous No. 16436337

>>16436335
this wouldn't be targeting his other companies, it would use their revenues in the calculation for the fine
so probably some absurdly high fine but X could just withdraw from the EU

Anonymous No. 16436338

>>16436332
Musks continues to pick up the silliest fights

Anonymous No. 16436339

>>16435784
Doesn't he have 12 kids? 1 of them coming out a failure isn't that big of a deal

Anonymous No. 16436342

>>16436338
free speech is critical if you don't want the world to fall to authoritarian dictatorships

Anonymous No. 16436343

>>16436337
>X could just withdraw from the EU
No way they'd do that.

Anonymous No. 16436345

>>16436339
generally i've seen in most families it's only 1 in 3, or 1 in 4 kids that actually end up successful. A single tranny in a dozen is definitely an achievement itself kek

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Anonymous No. 16436349

>>16436343
if the fine is something like 20 billion then do they have a choice? people in the EU can just use a VPN
I think the brazil thing was mostly about the blocking of Starlink, which hurt people on the ground in brazil too

Anonymous No. 16436350

>>16436333
Normies are so blindly anti-musk they sided with brazil on this.

Anonymous No. 16436351

>went on exploring in Elite Dangerous
>initially interesting but gets stale and I begin only caring about finding high value planets for money
>can't actually truly explore any interesting planets and you can't land on any life bearing water worlds
Will there ever be a space video game that doesn't have shallow space exploration?

Anonymous No. 16436352

>>16436350
yeah its insane

Anonymous No. 16436353

>>16436292
>Entire EU parliament suffers EDS
wasn't on on my bingo card desu

Anonymous No. 16436354

>>16436350
>I mean, it is the law
>>16436351
I play Minecraft with space mods so I can go to another planet and build a factory on it (just like real life)

Anonymous No. 16436358

>>16436354
Minecraft and factories? Did you mean Factorio with the space mod?

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Anonymous No. 16436359

>>16436351
Yes

Anonymous No. 16436361

Does anything come close? It feels like this was the absolute peak in spacex promo content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWFFiubtC3c

Anonymous No. 16436366

>>16436261
>source: I wish you to believe it

Anonymous No. 16436367

>>16436361
I like this video, and I'm not even American.
https://youtu.be/orVonJwofD8

Anonymous No. 16436371

>>16436291
It's fine. It's not a particularly good or subtle flavor but with enough sugar it is sweet.

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Anonymous No. 16436373

>>16436358
>he doesn't know

Anonymous No. 16436374

>>16436292
It looks like Europe has outlived its usefulness.

Anonymous No. 16436376

>>16436307
Then it's your fault. Accept the consequences of your actions like a man, not a euro.

Anonymous No. 16436381

>>16436335
He said he would comply with the law and then he did comply with the law. Where's the incredible gotcha here?

Anonymous No. 16436382

Post some spaceflight wallpapers

Anonymous No. 16436384

>>16436376
I've been voting against this every time

Anonymous No. 16436387

>>16436343
It would be extremely based

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Anonymous No. 16436392

>>16436382
Current home screen

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Anonymous No. 16436394

>>16436382
Current lock screen

Anonymous No. 16436400

>>16436392
>>16436394
>mobile wallpaper
Normoid pls

Anonymous No. 16436403

>>16435765
Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot, you post this gay demoralizing horseshit every single day. Fuck off anon, go to a different site and post there instead.
>inb4 b8
There's no difference between retardation and pretend retardation if you aren't funny with it.

Anonymous No. 16436404

>>16436400
What, you guys don't have phones?
Anyway some type of autism prevents me from changing my desktop wallpaper ever

Anonymous No. 16436406

>>16436083
Why is every employee asian

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Anonymous No. 16436407

post rare pictures of Earth from space

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Anonymous No. 16436411

>>16435854
I'd enter the gravitational gateway of my daughter. If you know what I mean

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Anonymous No. 16436415

>>16436411
Scott, no!

Anonymous No. 16436416

>>16436083
>pick up a 25lb battery tray
So it can finally handle an American new born?

Anonymous No. 16436418

>>16436292
>elon, you just can't take money from one company and put it in another, that belongs to the shareholders
>we can though

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Anonymous No. 16436428

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1846928286502596859

Anonymous No. 16436433

>>16436407
Looks like bump mapping

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Anonymous No. 16436434

>>16436423
What might have been

Anonymous No. 16436435

>>16436394
>Not having a full stack as the lock so when you swipe up it launches, lands on the home screen and locks to restack

Anonymous No. 16436440

>>16435825
I'm a sucker for adventure stories like Shackleton, Lewis & Clark, etc. so I love the Martian. I just watched it again yesterday. All the struggles are trivially solved in an age of rapid/cheap reuse and megatons of upmass/year enabled by Starship. But it's still entertaining. It is a closeish to realistic take on Mars. More realistic than John Carter. Moon (2009) is a pretty accurate take on near future space, but the economics of the plot twist seems unlikely to be worth it.

Casey Handmer has an amusing take on this: https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2021/04/09/the-martian-starship/

So yes, I know its not the most realistic, it is a good story about the triumph of Man vs Mars. The most fragile Mars trip is going to be the first one, but SpaceX will probably have a few staged Starships on location, with (hundreds of) tons of resources and spares and margin for an unexpectedly long stay.
>>16435851
Yeah, its a nice looking ship. It's so large for such a small crew. Compare it to Zubrin's Tuna Can Habs, where people to Mars have slightly more room than Apollo (basically sitting in a van for like 2 years). lol.

Anonymous No. 16436445

>>16436435
Lock screen is the launch, home screen is the landing. I don't want to see the whole stack

Anonymous No. 16436451

>>16436440
Starship makes every mars mission proposal before it look like a joke. Even if we can’t get 1 million people by 2050, McMurdo on mars will be trivial.

Anonymous No. 16436453

>>16436094
>can plug itself in using rear cameras
yes

Anonymous No. 16436459

Still no word on IFT6 objectives?

Anonymous No. 16436462

>>16436453
kate tice should demo it while giving the next starship presentation

Anonymous No. 16436464

>>16436459
Probably shitloads of meetings going on right now to determine that since everything went to well and any assumptions that missed objectives from flight 5 would need to be attempted again on flight 6 no longer apply.

Anonymous No. 16436466

>>16436459
IIRC they're aiming for a precise lithobreaking using the wilber wright building

Anonymous No. 16436467

https://x.com/AstroPeggy/status/1846907269369258030
>Training for Ax-4 has begun
axiom paid their bills?

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Anonymous No. 16436468

>>16436453

Anonymous No. 16436469

>>16435789
He's not an engineer. Musk is many h
things, but not an engineer. He's just another rich white guy, like Jeff Bezos. Bezos will soon be SpaceXs's largest competitor in a year. Bezos has more money and influence with Amazon, which he runs better than Musk runs twitter.

Anonymous No. 16436471

It's middle of October, is 6th flight even happening this year

Anonymous No. 16436472

>>16436469
It is funny that the "billionaire space race" is a guy who built a hundred billion dollar space business vs a guy who dumped a hundred billion dollars into a space business

Anonymous No. 16436475

>>16436469
Your premise is wrong because Bezos is an engineer.

Anonymous No. 16436476

>>16436467
maybe SpaceX gave them more time to pay

Anonymous No. 16436477

>>16436471
>he doesn't know

Anonymous No. 16436478

>>16436471
Not if they decide that the Block 1 ship has outlived its usefulness

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Anonymous No. 16436491

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1846893660341698966

Anonymous No. 16436492

The UK went from space age to third world. I'm writing this one my 500kbps ethernet connection. they are moving 300 more immigrants into my area next year so i expect it to get slower. the upload speed changes noticeably depending on how many characters I write, so I will have to keep this short.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16436494

Xuntian's optical section in dev

>>16436478
probably, people in the know say anything from late november to early january apparently.

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Anonymous No. 16436497

Xuntian's optical section in dev

>>16436471
probably, people in the know say anything from late november to early january apparently.

Anonymous No. 16436498

https://spacenews.com/nasa-further-delays-first-operational-starliner-flight/
>“It’s under data review. We need to have a decision: do we need another test flight?” NASA Deputy Administrator Pam Melroy said when asked about the status of the Starliner review at a press conference during the International Astronautical Congress (IAC) here Oct. 16. She added there was no timeline for completing that data review.
>Another open issue for future commercial crew flights is whether NASA and Roscosmos will continue to exchange seats between Soyuz and commercial crew vehicles.
>Currently, no NASA astronauts are assigned to Soyuz spacecraft beyond Jonny Kim on the next Soyuz mission to the ISS, Soyuz MS-27 in March 2025. Roscosmos officials released in August crew manifests for the following two Soyuz flights, Soyuz MS-28 in late 2025 and Soyuz MS-29 in 2026, that were comprised entirely of Roscosmos cosmonauts.

Anonymous No. 16436501

>>16436492
>500kbps
oh you cheeky cunt. 'ave the gal to whine about such preposterously breakneck speeds?

Anonymous No. 16436502

>>16436498
Q1 2025 cancellation

Anonymous No. 16436504

>>16436404
same I've had the same wallpaper for probably ten years

Anonymous No. 16436505

>>16436492
leave

Anonymous No. 16436507

>>16436491
The chinese can keep up the mantle while we wait for commercial stations to come online.

Anonymous No. 16436510

>>16436505
How do I become an American, pls

Anonymous No. 16436514

>>16436504
I have about 8000 images in a big folder, and my background is set to pull randomly from it every other hour. Now and then I'll head to /wg/ or /w/ and save another few dozen backgrounds that look nice to me at the time. I like variety.

Anonymous No. 16436515

>>16436510
Book a flight to Mexico and jump the border, I'll be waiting for you at Starbase.

Anonymous No. 16436516

Can AST still compete? Starlink is absolutely crushing everything right now

Anonymous No. 16436519

>>16436515
but Trump is going to deport the illegals

Anonymous No. 16436520

>>16436519
Only if you get caught.

Anonymous No. 16436521

>>16436516
maybe
personally I wouldn't bet against elon

Anonymous No. 16436524

>>16436516
The only market they can compete in is the very real "anything but Elon Musk" market.

Anonymous No. 16436527

>>16436521
true

Anonymous No. 16436533

>>16436471
50/50

Anonymous No. 16436538

>>16436507
He said human

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Anonymous No. 16436541

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-17/michael-bloomberg-nasa-s-artemis-moon-mission-is-a-colossal-waste
Wtf I love Bloomberg now?

Anonymous No. 16436543

>>16436541
>A celestial irony is that none of this is necessary. A reusable SpaceX Starship will very likely be able to carry cargo and robots directly to the moon — no SLS, Orion, Gateway, Block 1B or ML-2 required — at a small fraction of the cost. Its successful landing of the Starship booster was a breakthrough that demonstrated how far beyond NASA it is moving.
Speaking to Gateway’s uselessness as well, praising Starship in the process of calling it useless. When did this guy become a knower??

Anonymous No. 16436545

>>16436541
Read between the lines. King Zog over here would prefer that no humans go to the moon at all.

Anonymous No. 16436552

>>16436545
You fucking retard, he thinks the private sector should do it and not have NASA waste hundreds of billions on useless shit like SLS. You are defending SLS and Gateway and ML-2 right now. Consider where you stand before you open your mouth assuming what others think.
He also directly says >>16436543 that SpaceX is far beyond NASA, and
>Meanwhile, NASA is canceling or postponing promising scientific programs — including the Veritas mission to Venus; the Viper lunar rover; and the NEO Surveyor telescope, intended to scan the solar system for hazardous asteroids — as Artemis consumes ever more of its budget.
>Taxpayers and Congress should be asking: What on Earth are we doing? And the next president should be held accountable for answers.
He is clearly stating that SpaceX should be flying people to the moon and beyond at a cost effective rate, AND GIVE MORE FUNDING TO SCIENCE MISSIONS.
THIS IS LITERALLY THE MOST COMMON /sfg/ POSITION.

Anonymous No. 16436554

>>16436552
Him only mentioning using Starship to deliver robots and cargo is odd. If he meant that Starship should be used to send our astronauts as well then why not say that?

Anonymous No. 16436559

>>16436552
>>16436554
He clearly and plainly says he does not want people on the moon.
>The problems start with the mission, which is more political than scientific. There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannot. Technology has come a long way since 1969, to put it mildly. We do not need another person on the moon to collect rocks or take scientific measurements. And the costs of putting people on the moon — and of planning for their potential rescue, should complications arise — are truly astronomical.
I don't know how you two missed this.

Anonymous No. 16436560

Why does falcon heavy need to have too many Gs for astronauts?
They’re clearly comfortable air starting merlins, so they could leave the center core off until near booster burnout to get a ride as gentle as a normal f9.

Anonymous No. 16436564

>>16436554
maybe he doesnt care about that, but doesn't seem to be against private companies doing what they want with that
more about Starship delivering the cargo and robots that NASA would be making for science missions so NASA can focues on the science

he did talk about robots being more cost effective than humans for science, but that is quite a common misconception
didn't really seem to be against humans in space per se, just that humans in space as an excuse for science (assuming they were much less cost effective) is not good
but if he was shown that humans can actually be very effective for science missions too, then perhaps he would change his mind about that

Anonymous No. 16436565

>>16436541
It's only a waste as a moon mission
As a corporate welfare program it is staggeringly successful

Anonymous No. 16436566

>>16436559
its about cost, not some ideological position about human not going to the moon

Anonymous No. 16436567

Esoteric Zubrinism

Anonymous No. 16436569

>>16436566
No, the lines "There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannot. Technology has come a long way since 1969, to put it mildly. We do not need another person on the moon to collect rocks or take scientific measurements." are clearly ideological in nature, not statements of fact.

Anonymous No. 16436572

>>16436564
Oh, well good to know that King Zog won't use his powers to prevent good goys from flying to the moon on their own dime if they wish. Clearly a win for people who are pro-space that this guy will cut all public funding for moon exploration completely but won't ban it outright.

Anonymous No. 16436573

>>16436559
Well I cant speak to what he meant on that. I would still assume that he means if you are only sending them to the moon for a science mission like getting roggs and not to build a permanent prescence, whats the point of sending humans. Artemis is not very serious about putting a permanent human prescence on the moon, thats like an aspiration they benched. Again, later in the article he mentiond that NASA has been cancelling science missions. I think he is essentially saying people can go to the moon probably on Starship (maybe should go), but not for stupid things that rovers can do like rock collection and shit. Which is a fairly reasonable position desu, its a massive waste of money to just go for that. We need permanent prescence and using NASA money on SLS and Gateway is a collosal waste of time and effort that would be better spent on other science missions and improving the plan for permanent US prescence than some rinky dink go up and down maybe supply this station no buildings on the moon.

NASA is not serious about permanent lunar colonization, lets face it.

Anonymous No. 16436574

>>16436569
its a common misconception, does not really seem idological to me unlike planetary protection people seem to have

Anonymous No. 16436576

>>16436572
>cut all public funding for moon exploration completely but won't ban it outright
That's a good thing, considering the abject waste involved with everything SLS comes into contact with. I want boots on the moon but NASA seems to want a permanent work program that delivers nothing but shame.

Anonymous No. 16436577

>>16436573
the only thing NASA is serious about is shoveling money into the pockets of oldspace contractors
missions actually succeeding is just extra work,you have to come up with a new mission

Anonymous No. 16436578

>>16436574
It's ideological cause he doesn't even consider any other reason for people to be there. The idea that the only thing worth doing in space is science for sciences sake is an ideological position.

Anonymous No. 16436580

>>16436576
If there's no public money to travel to the moon in particular, Elon won't do it

Anonymous No. 16436581

>>16436572
>cut all public funding
Are you retarded? Scratch that you definetly are since you are spazzing out about muh juice. He literally says there that SpaceX can accomplish this and at a fraction of the cost, he also clearly states that we should still be sending things to the moon. That obviously says that funding should go to SpaceX for ALL of these missions due to their reusability and capabilities, which means MORE funding goes to SpaceX. Quite literally /sfg/s exact position on Artemis and you still have to complain that a super mainstream and popular journalist is spreading it to the masses because you are obsessed with shoving /pol/ rhetoric everywhere you can. This is obviously not cutting all public funding and you are maliciously strawmanning his argument because you are a deranged /pol/ack that needs to go back. >>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16436582

>>16435825
it's objectively the most realistic of the 3 movies there

Anonymous No. 16436583

Lunar quartz coffee tables

Anonymous No. 16436584

SpaceX be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn4k2TPIJf0

Anonymous No. 16436586

>>16436584
I remember this episode of looney tunes.

Anonymous No. 16436587

>>16436578
thats not what he is saying
isn't NASA supposed to be a science organization?

Anonymous No. 16436588

>>16436583
Martian granite countertops

Anonymous No. 16436589

>>16436580
Simply pay them for it, then. No need to pioneer a billion-a-launch rocket, no need to engineer new hardware, no requirement to build up your own mission architecture.
Just pay SpaceX and tell them what you want, they will deliver.
>>16435825
I did not care for Interstellar. Gravity is stupid but pretty to look at. The Martian is enjoyable to watch.

Anonymous No. 16436590

>>16436580
Bezos will

Anonymous No. 16436591

>>16436587
No, that is what he's saying, maybe he meant something different but thats what he said. I directly quoted it to you.
You might believe he meant something different but you cannot derive you're preferred interpretation from what he said.

Anonymous No. 16436592

Jeff Benzos

Anonymous No. 16436593

>>16436581
Literally states SpaceX should be sending all these things NASA has (which as an EXAMPLE he said robots and cargo) to the moon and you somehow think he wants no NASA money to go to SpaceX. He ALSO SAYS
>As someone who greatly respects science and strongly supports space exploration, the more I have learned about Artemis, the more it has become apparent that it is a colossal waste of taxpayer money.
OBVIOUSLY he wants space exploration to happen when he says he STRONGLY SUPPORTS IT and only singles out Artemis as in need of rethinking

Anonymous No. 16436594

>>16436588
This would have caused the boomers to actually fund a mars program

Anonymous No. 16436595

>>16436581
/sfg/'s position on Artemis is that it should be remade around SpaceX to send PEOPLE to the moon. This eiwige terminal-peddler mistakenly believes that the American desire for progress will be sated by gay ass robots to do soience in the face of Chinese boots and flags. Midget Mike is sorely mistaken.

Anonymous No. 16436597

>>16436292
He just wouldnt pay it lmao

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Anonymous No. 16436598

>>16436592

Anonymous No. 16436601

>>16436384
Maybe consider killing politicians

Anonymous No. 16436602

>>16436584
accurate depiction of 21st century rocket programs

Anonymous No. 16436605

>>16436595
You fucking retard, he very obviously gave those AS EXAMPLES. He said he strongly supports space exploration, you think that somehow doesnt include people?? You send cargo and robots to the moon AHEAD of humans landing, which is exactly how SpaceX and Elon said they would plan a Mars landing. You assume the absolute worst because you are a deranged autist and cant be happy when he leaves even the most obvious things slightly vague. A MAINSTREAM OUTLET IS CRITICIZING ARTEMIS AND CALLING FOR RETHINKING AND PRAISING SPACEX IN THE PROCESS, QUITE LITERALLY CALLING FOR THEM TO RECEIVE MORE MISSIONS AND FUNDING. You should be ECSTATIC that this is becoming a mainstream opinion.

Anonymous No. 16436606

>>16436605
>you think that somehow doesnt include people??
I don't, but he clearly does as he states twice in the article.
I don't know why you're fanboying so hard over michael bloomberg of all people.

Anonymous No. 16436607

>>16436601
the European Union might fall apart in the next few years

Anonymous No. 16436610

>>16436607
A positive development but may not be enough

Anonymous No. 16436611

>>16436541
spaceguy5 is quaking in his boots rn

Anonymous No. 16436613

>sen has 4k cameras on the ISS
>only uploads 720p clips
...?

Anonymous No. 16436619

>>16436560
they cant because... THEY JUST CANT OKAY!!!1!

Anonymous No. 16436621

>>16436613
pay for L2.

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Anonymous No. 16436624

>>16436468
god i want to fuck a cute nandroid and get her pregnant so bad why did you have to remind me anon.
when will elon make them real?

Anonymous No. 16436626

>>16436622
That’s uhhh kinda a lot of fire in the engine bay

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Anonymous No. 16436627

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1846967709461844067

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Anonymous No. 16436630

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1846957249744589273

Anonymous No. 16436631

>>16436627
He knows its over

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Anonymous No. 16436632

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1846957051840221487

Anonymous No. 16436633

>>16436631
He just wants to sell it, but there are no buyers

Anonymous No. 16436635

>>16436630
Wasnt there a national program that had billions of dollars in it to do this exact same thing? Maybe not specifically Starlink but still, how is this a first if that program exists.

Anonymous No. 16436636

>>16436627
That's all you got, cowboy?
There is a new Sheriff in Rock Ridge.

Anonymous No. 16436637

>>16436635
yes, 42 bil and after 3 years nobody has been connected yet (though apparently some money has been distributed, idk)

Anonymous No. 16436639

>>16436630
>>16436635
It and SLS have some things in common

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Anonymous No. 16436640

>>16436491
https://spacenews.com/nasa-weighing-options-for-continuous-human-presence-in-leo-after-iss/

Anonymous No. 16436641

>>16436635
>he doesn't know

Anonymous No. 16436643

>>16436630
Based Maine!
I thought that was a blue state.

Anonymous No. 16436644

>>16436643
Blue states work properly if they're majority white.

Anonymous No. 16436647

has spacex hoovered up every competent aerospace engineer in the US or is it just that all other agencies and companies have become so rotten due to DEI and general decay that they are unable to function?

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Anonymous No. 16436649

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846953813044818241

Anonymous No. 16436650

>>16436643
>paying to connect all the newly imported niggers to the internet for free
>not a blue state policy

Anonymous No. 16436653

>>16436650
Immigrants don't live upcountry where running fiber is unaffordable. These subsidies exist to directly benefit white sister-fuckers.

Anonymous No. 16436654

>>16436647
yes

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Anonymous No. 16436657

>>16436423
Fixed. Great work NASA

Anonymous No. 16436658

>>16436644
Imagine that, wanting nice things, but still voting for self destruction of the rest of our nation.
How about ALL 22 million illegals relocate to Maine, and other deep blue states, exclusively?
This is blue state policy, so enjoy! The red states should be free from that plague, we never wanted it.

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Anonymous No. 16436661

>>16436657
lmaooo

Anonymous No. 16436664

>>16436660
blorg?

Anonymous No. 16436666

>>16436664
Phantom.

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Anonymous No. 16436667

>>16436657

Anonymous No. 16436670

>>16436225
>There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannot
Rover shills are mentally ill

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Anonymous No. 16436671

https://x.com/GoToImpulse/status/1846972930871513180

Anonymous No. 16436674

>>16436468
Dress up as a fox and we have a deal

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>>16436671

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Anonymous No. 16436679

>>16435742
>Trump isn't serious about space anyway
You don't know about the Golden Retriever project.

Anonymous No. 16436680

>>16436664
It'd have to be ULA. The only other non-SpaceX rockets launching from Vandenberg right now are Firefly's Alpha at SLC-2W and Northrop's Minotaur at SLC-8, and neither of those come anywhere close to needing 60 launches per year. Phantom hasn't even started on their pad at SLC-5 and aren't even thinking about any launches before Q1 2026 (and are probably a scam), New Glenn launches out of SLC-9 are even more hypothetical, and we don't even really know if ABL is still functioning as a company. ULA and Vulcan are the only other serious business in town.

Anonymous No. 16436684

>>16436640
>That comment puzzled some attendees, who had assumed that continuous human presence meant having people in space continuously. In a later briefing, she called that concept “continuous heartbeat.”
NASA: having heartbeat counts as human

Anonymous No. 16436685

>>16436674
you could even give her a moveable tail attachment anon.
the golden age of robotics will free mankind from the tyranny of flesh-women.

Anonymous No. 16436688

>>16436684
This administration just keeps getting worse.

Anonymous No. 16436689

>>16436292
funny how they only say this after spacex finished launching their shit

Anonymous No. 16436695

>>16436684
>having heartbeat counts as human
Nobody tell women

Anonymous No. 16436697

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/1g5fs72/spacex_sues_california_panel_alleges_political/

even reddit commenters think the california commission overstepped (mostly), which is somewhat surprising to me
maybe due to not being one of the sacred topics like race or sex that can't be criticized or discussed

Anonymous No. 16436698

>>16436697
You need to go back

Anonymous No. 16436702

>>16436695
oof

Anonymous No. 16436704

>>16436671
>26 newtons
That’s it? Children's toy rockets produce more than that.

Anonymous No. 16436706

>>16436704
it's basically a glorified RCS thruster

Anonymous No. 16436707

>>16436697
That sub treats SpaceX with kid gloves. Post that to a general news sub and watch the insectoids vomit their munt protein all over their screens in indignation.

Anonymous No. 16436708

>>16436688
To the liberal, most things with heartbeats are more important than humans

Anonymous No. 16436710

>>16436292
Looks like white people have outlived their usefulness. Time for Musk to realize this and join the asians.

Anonymous No. 16436711

>>16436697
of course the spacex reddit will support spacex. step outside of some space reddits though and the comments will be completely different.

>It can’t bring stronger charges to the defendant. But it can bring punishment to the judge. In California there is a commission that can remove judges for misconduct, and they can also face criminal charges
imagine being the judge that has to rule on this. they'll quickly become a political target if they're not already buddies with the commissioners. if they rule against the commission then they could face severe repercussions.

Anonymous No. 16436712

I'm getting starship withdrawal, everything is boring

Anonymous No. 16436714

>>16436697
go back to dreddit you worthless mutt

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Anonymous No. 16436716

https://x.com/GruyereSpace/status/1846951124705697873

Small swiss student team builds rocket powered (N2O/Isopropanol)VTVL hopper that flies to 100m and came back.

Their budget was quite literally 1,000 times lower than the equivalent ESA program that will barely fly higher.

Anonymous No. 16436717

>>16436716
Watch them all graduate and come to america where aerospace jobs actually exist.

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Anonymous No. 16436718

*saves tax payers tens of billions*

Anonymous No. 16436719

>>16436697
spacex subreddit supports spacex, wow who woulda thought. now go back, retard

Anonymous No. 16436722

>>16436718
You’d probably still need ICPS because of how leo optimized starship is. Which means running hydrogen plumbing at starbase.

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Anonymous No. 16436727

Bad news.
Cody is getting yiffed as we speak.

Anonymous No. 16436732

>>16436727
At least he's got protective gear, hopefully life support to avoid breathing in disgusting furry-air.

Anonymous No. 16436733

>>16436722
Just launch it from Florida. Regardless, it would have more than enough capability to TLI even without the ICPS.

Anonymous No. 16436734

>>16436722
There's only two ICPS units left and the DCSS production line has been dismantled for a few years now. Better to use a Centaur V if you're going to grab something off the shelf. Or you could commission Impulse Space to design a bigger version of Helios.

Anonymous No. 16436735

>>16436727
serves him right for whining about mars colonisation.
hope the germs wafting off those creatures breach his spacesuit and contaminate his existence instead.

Anonymous No. 16436739

>>16436734
The real high iq cots option would be gs2

Anonymous No. 16436740

>>16436718
ROCKET. PARTS. ARE. NOT. LEGO.
We have been over this.

Anonymous No. 16436741

>>16436710
What Asians have the same ambitions as American whites?

Anonymous No. 16436744

>>16436741
>implying Musk is american white
Lmao

Anonymous No. 16436745

>>16436740
oldspace mentality

Anonymous No. 16436746

>>16436744
Retard

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>>16436624
soon

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>>16436740
It. JUST. WORKS.

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Anonymous No. 16436755

>>16436740
Well maybe they should be, ever think of that?
>>16436747
Nandroid enjoyers will inherit the outer space.

Anonymous No. 16436764

>>16436740
Ok for real though, other than designing an interstage, adding the required gse to the launch site, and recalculating some control algorithms, what’s stopping you from mounting any second stage on any big enough booster?

Anonymous No. 16436766

>>16436755
You should be thrown out in the tundra, Ivan.

Anonymous No. 16436767

>>16436755
>Well maybe they should be,
they should be and no, he'd didn't think of that

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Anonymous No. 16436769

>>16436747
>>16436755
glad to see other robofuckers ITT

Anonymous No. 16436772

>>16436769
Fuck off shartytard.

Anonymous No. 16436774

>>16436772
not from the sharty, i was taking a break from 4ch while that whole thing went down and only learned about it later, that image is just from nanbooru.

Anonymous No. 16436775

>>16436764
G loading, aerodynamics and vibration.

Anonymous No. 16436776

>>16436766
>"is...is that a....RUSSIAN FLAG!?! NOOOOOOO!"
Mindbroken
>>16436767
Standardization can only decrease complexity, seems like a no-brainer.

Anonymous No. 16436777

>>16436739
Probably, but it's hard to make any solid judgements on that until we actually know how much propellant it carries, what its dry mass is, and what the final specs for the BE-3U are. Some of the best numbers we have for those are guesses from nearly a half-decade ago.

On the other hand, a Centaur V is 4.8 tons dry with 55 tons of propellant, and the double RL-10C-1-1s have 212 kN of thrust at 454s isp.

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Anonymous No. 16436778

>>16436755
Mars will be bros and robots only

Anonymous No. 16436783

>>16436777
What's the source for these Centaur V numbers? I remember a ULA graphics showing 54t of propellant.

Anonymous No. 16436784

>>16436740
Rocket parts have been lego since the beginning of the space age. The stage swapping we've got now is nothing compared to the 1960s. Everyone was mix and matching upper stages and ICBMs back then.

Anonymous No. 16436786

>>16436776
Why are you quoting what is already greentexted, god youre a pretentious newfag prick

Anonymous No. 16436790

>>16436786
(you)

Anonymous No. 16436791

>>16436766
zigger falseflag post.

Anonymous No. 16436792

>>16436786
Those are meme arrows used to make fake stories green, I'm not sure what you mean by "quoting"

Anonymous No. 16436793

>>16436791
back to >>>/k/

Anonymous No. 16436794

>>16436792
He's probably just new around here, let's be patient

Anonymous No. 16436795

I've got it, I know how Elon can keep the flaps on Starship from melting. All he has to do is pour a couple of jugs of radiator fluid in there (maybe some good GM Dexcool, you know the orange stuff) and put like a 100 psi venting radiator cap on there and as soon as those babies get "rainbow" hot that 50/50 coolant/water mix will flash to steam and it will vent out the radiator cap (you know just like how it's supposed to on your car if it's overheating so your engine doesn't melt) thus taking a huge amount of heat with it. Any car guys here know what I'm talking about?

Anonymous No. 16436796

>>16436793
not from /k/, just pointing it out.

Anonymous No. 16436798

>>16436795
they might have already solved it by moving the flaps out of the plasma
or at least so that the hinges aren't directly in the plasma plume

Anonymous No. 16436799

>>16436792
No, greentexting is used to represent quotes as seen >>16436559 here. You are putting quotation marks inside of a greentext, which is redundant because greentext represents quotes which I am pointing out. You also still prove my point, because your ‘fake story’ is also just a fake quote of me to try and poke fun at it. So why use quotation marks on what is already in greentext?

Anonymous No. 16436800

>>16436798
the forward hinges seem the be the only real problem.
if they move those out of the plasma stream it should probably be fine.

Anonymous No. 16436802

>>16436799
lurk moar

Anonymous No. 16436803

>>16436783
I'm not sure where specifically the 4,800 kg dry mass came from, but I think it was someone running some autistic number crunching based off of Vulcan's Cert-1 performance and a Tory Bruno tweet that said the CV actually weighed less than 5 tons.

Anonymous No. 16436804

>>16436795
But how will the whole system be rapidly reusable if you have to top off the radiator fluid all the time?

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Anonymous No. 16436806

>>16436798
I still like my idea.

Anonymous No. 16436807

>>16436795
regular aqua is the best evaporative coolant
boring, I know
>>16436798
yeah, there's a reason why they moved them on the newer versions already

Anonymous No. 16436808

>>16436776
if juts one company can make their stuff easily stackable and exchangeable (engines, tanks etc) then they will have an advantage. if it could be done across numerous companies then yikes, things might get really simple.

Anonymous No. 16436809

>>16436802
No counterargument because you didnt know that was its purpose so you project onto me. Brainlet put in his miserable place.

Anonymous No. 16436812

>>16436741
American whites are too busy worshipper niggers. There's a reason why SpaceX was founded by a South African white.

Anonymous No. 16436813

>>16436804
that's just one more Mexican he has to hire, who tops off the radiator fluid and maybe checks the tire pressure while he's at it

Anonymous No. 16436815

Chances of SpaceX revisiting transpiration cooling in five years?

Anonymous No. 16436816

>>16436815
never say never, with Musk in charge they'll always push the envelope in one field or another. Don't think that was even tried was it?

Anonymous No. 16436817

>>16436815
50/50, you know why

Anonymous No. 16436818

>>16436799
>>16436809
Remain angry, please.
>>16436815
0%

Anonymous No. 16436819

>>16436792
only plebbitors that automatically think of the greentext screenshots they had handpicked for their favorite sub think arrows are for fake stories only. i think you should consider going back

Anonymous No. 16436820

>>16436799
>meme arrows used to make fake stories green
was supposed to be a joke about the redditor impression of 4chan built exclusively around those stories that start with
>be me
I'm a totally different anon lol

Anonymous No. 16436821

>>16436819
I came here today from reddit

Anonymous No. 16436823

>>16436820
bro >>16436819

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>>16436807
>regular aqua is the best evaporative coolant
>boring, I know
the flaps are filled with frozen water at launch, it's hot water when it lands, thus no burn throughs on the flaps

Anonymous No. 16436825

>why are you guys arguing about using the greater than symbol in the space thread?

Anonymous No. 16436826

>>16436825
<I don't know what they're on about, personally.
>t.anon (you)

Anonymous No. 16436827

>>16436804
get out and top the flapfluid off during coast periods

Anonymous No. 16436828

>>16436815
only if it would potentially be lower turnaround than tiles, and we still don't know how well they work yet. I assume even current tiles are still far better than anything shittle had though

Anonymous No. 16436829

>>16436823
what

Anonymous No. 16436831

>>16436829
I replied to them backwards on accident

Anonymous No. 16436832

>>16436831
you dont seem very intelligent. what is your iq?

Anonymous No. 16436836

>>16436832
89, but im a visual learner so IQ tests dont play to my strengths.

Anonymous No. 16436839

most intelligent /sfg/ poster

Anonymous No. 16436840

>>16436836
you're hired t. NASA

Anonymous No. 16436841

>>16436839
kek

Anonymous No. 16436843

>>16436828
>better than anything shittle had though
only two shapes, is that correct? and not nearly so many funny shapes to fill. seems more efficient

Anonymous No. 16436846

>>16436843
every single one of shittles 10,000 tiles were all unique, made of flimsy silica, were only glued on, and the majority of them needed replacing after every flight.

Anonymous No. 16436849

interesting space fact: did any of you know that the shuttle tiles were made of silica and if you heated one in an over until it was red hot after taking it out you could pick it up with your bare hand after just a moment to cool down. that's how well it retained heat. I bet none of you knew that.

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>>16436849
I did in fact know this

Anonymous No. 16436852

>>16436849
yes we have seen that video a million times

Anonymous No. 16436854

>>16436849
No, I did not. Thank you for this cool science fact!

Anonymous No. 16436855

>>16436849
bet they crumbled easier than a digestive though, pathetic

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Anonymous No. 16436858

How exactly are they going to catch starship?
Right now they use small steel sockets under the flaps. But thar seems near impossible to quickly grab while hovering. Any other exposed steel would melt. Can't use the flaps themselves because tiles are weak, even the way the catch arms rubbed against the booster would destroy all the tiles lining the sides.
I guess the only solution would be some sort of large deployable hooks?

Anonymous No. 16436859

>>16436858
legs

Anonymous No. 16436860

>>16436858
Kys

Anonymous No. 16436862

>>16436858
maybe modify the catch arms in a way so starship could have hooks just on the front, put the deployable part on the tower
so you would have a different mechanism for the booster and starship (but integrated into the same chopsticks

Anonymous No. 16436863

>>16436859
this, it needs to be able to land anywhere else anyway, starship catch isn't a priority beyond increasing turnaround of future tanker variants

Anonymous No. 16436864

>>16436803
Thanks, I had vaguely assumed 59.5 wet/54 dry

Anonymous No. 16436873

Cancel Artemis

Anonymous No. 16436875

Elon is live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTQgSFP7n-A

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Anonymous No. 16436877

why is this /sfg/ today

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Anonymous No. 16436878

>>16436875
>scan or regret

Anonymous No. 16436879

>>16436875
anon, I...

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Anonymous No. 16436881

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/artemis-ii-almost-certainly-will-miss-its-september-2025-launch-date/

Anonymous No. 16436882

>>16436877
The streams are crossing.

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Anonymous No. 16436884

>>16436881
>new borgir

Anonymous No. 16436886

>>16436859
>>16436863
If the booster doesn't need legs why does starship? Excluding the moon and Mars
>starship catch isn't a priority beyond increasing turnaround of future tanker variants
If it wasn't a priority they would have already launched payloads by flight 4

Anonymous No. 16436888

>>16435980
disgusting

Anonymous No. 16436889

>>16436877
the intelligence needed to appreciate spaceflight and dreams of conquering space is the same intelligence needed to realize and understand that women need to be replaced with android replacements that can feel real love, capable of automatic gene splicing so they can have healthy children with you despite being robots, completely obsoleting the fleshbags.

Anonymous No. 16436890

>>16436881
just went through that like 10 mins ago, stop reading my mind /sfg/

Anonymous No. 16436892

>>16436849
Isn't spacex using more or less the same stuff for tiles?

Anonymous No. 16436895

>>16436886
moon, Mars, e2e, crossrange landing

Anonymous No. 16436896

>>16436491
Good the Leo meme needs to end

Anonymous No. 16436902

>>16436498
How would they even manage another Orion test flight? Can falcon heavy or Vulcan get Orion high enough?

Anonymous No. 16436906

>>16436895
E2e isn't going to use legs
>cross range landing
Are talking about military use?
Delusional

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Anonymous No. 16436907

>>16436858
What about like this, its like the tower catch except you're sliding down one side on the back of the ship. Then instead of a foot you have a hook. And it hangs on one point. No tiles risked, and the nose has a lot of structure, this should be above any payload stuff. The only thing I'm concerned about is the ship crumpling where it contacts the tower because it's probably not meant to have things pressing into the side.

It would be nice to catch it with the launch tower for re-flying tankers but you might have to settle for catching it with a different tower if you can't make chopsticks that can do both. Maybe this thing would work in modified chopsticks on one side and in an open position.

Anonymous No. 16436908

>>16436633
Even for free what is a company going to do with thousands of union workers? The interest on a whole new facility is likely less. Not to mention anyone that could use the isogrid benders already has em now. Maybe Sierra Nevada Corperation.

Boeing is going to face a similar problem soon.

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Anonymous No. 16436909

>>16436248
>Columbia would not have been lost if the upper half of the ET on the side facing the shuttle had been given a coating of this

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Anonymous No. 16436912

>>16436849
That's insane

Anonymous No. 16436915

>>16436292
glass europe, NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuLAVxrtWy0

Anonymous No. 16436917

>>16435787
Musk is easily over half, but Gwynne and Mueller are like 15% each

Anonymous No. 16436919

>e2e
Never happening, we've been over why MANY times

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Anonymous No. 16436920

why i am getting this kind of advertisement on a blue board ?? (im sorry, off topic)

Anonymous No. 16436921

>>16436919
>we've been over why MANY times
Nta, but Fuck off faggot

Anonymous No. 16436923

>>16436920
booba

Anonymous No. 16436924

>>16436919
you calling mommy shotwell a liar??

Anonymous No. 16436925

>>16436924
Momala is calling her a liar. Just like Moskal, shes a fake and a fraud.

Anonymous No. 16436926

>>16436920
You don't use any form of adblock? I can't imagine subjecting myself to fucking advertisements throughout the day. I never consented to be advertised at and I take steps to prevent the unwanted corporate contact entirely.

Anonymous No. 16436927

GAO report :

The new report, published Thursday, finds that the Exploration Ground Systems program had several months of schedule margin in its work toward a September 2025 launch date at the beginning of the year. But now, the program has allocated all of that margin to technical issues experienced during work on the rocket's mobile launcher and pad testing.

"Earlier in 2024, the program was reserving that time for technical issues that may arise during testing of the integrated SLS and Orion vehicle or if weather interferes with planned activities, among other things," the report states. "Officials said it is likely that issues will arise because this is the first time testing many of these systems. Given the lack of margin, if further issues arise during testing or integration, there will likely be delays to the September 2025 Artemis II launch date."

An independent review team has completed an assessment of NASA's work on the heat shield, but NASA has not publicly commented on these results or its decision moving forward. In response to questions from Ars this week about a decision on whether to take corrective action, an agency spokesperson said, "The Artemis I heat shield investigation process is still underway, so NASA has not made any decisions yet."

Anonymous No. 16436928

>>16436924
shotwell masturbates so hard dreaming getting fucked by musk, meanwhile her husband has to deal with a dead bedroom. its truly tragic really.

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Anonymous No. 16436933

I still not understand the refueling architecture. The tanker has stretched tanks all the way to the header tanks up above ? or it is like the whole payload bay is like a second fuel tank .

Anonymous No. 16436934

>>16436933
Yes

Anonymous No. 16436936

>>16436933
youre an idiot. dont post here again.

Anonymous No. 16436938

>>16436933
Yes and yes except that other part

Anonymous No. 16436939

Update on the environmentalists that tried to stall the Starship test. The lawfare is on in full force
https://www.chron.com/culture/article/spacex-tceq-permit-19838475.php
>The South Texas Environmental Justice Network said in a press release Tuesday that the community was "distraught by the negative impacts of the launch" and is frustrated with the "lack of concern for public safety and health." When Starship launched on Sunday, it happened after Elon Musk's company curiously finessed a last-minute launch license from the Federal Aviation Administration. Launches were previously said to be delayed until November.
>Now, those opposed to SpaceX are preparing to gather outside a public meeting the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) is holding in Brownsville on Thursday to review a permit SpaceX is seeking. The organization says it plans to hold "Fuera SpaceX" signs and hand out information about its concerns specifically over SpaceX's proposed permit to discharge deluge water they describe as polluted into a delicate ecosystem.

Anonymous No. 16436940

>>16436924
I would love to be inverse birthed by her, but she's a salesman not an engineer and isn't a great authority on what's possible. She thinks we're going to invent ftl and meet aliens

Anonymous No. 16436944

>>16436934
what if one of the tankers full of fuel has to do an abort without reaching full orbit ? (like basically flight 5 trajectory) . Could a tanker reenter normally with his main tanks nearly empty and huge 150t of fuel mass at the front ? Or they just dump all the fuel before reentry

Anonymous No. 16436945

>>16436944
Maybe

Anonymous No. 16436948

>>16436939
calling it now: environmentalists cause indefinite delay of starship tests just by rowing boats into the exclusion zone to protest

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Anonymous No. 16436949

>>16436933
I'm more interested in what the docking is going to look like, where are the prop transfer ports going to go? How are they going to solidly attach and stay together? HLS is going to need to be able to have things docked to it two ways, both for initial prop transfer and then later for crew transfer.

Anonymous No. 16436950

>>16436939
>discharge deluge water they describe as polluted into a delicate ecosystem.
Even if the water was actually polluted, this makes no sense. SpaceX was allowed to build and launch there. Flame trenches are a part of that.

Anonymous No. 16436951

>>16436948
Eventually, they'll run out of people willing to get arrested and fined.

Anonymous No. 16436952

>>16436949
i am still betting for hold arms just like the catch tower. You can see it ? 2 pairs, like little arms , near the "pez dispenser" and the other pair lower. That will stabilize everyting. For the actual transfer... idk .. maybe just use good old pumps (built inside each of every tanker)

Anonymous No. 16436953

>>16436952
>contact, initiate leglock

Anonymous No. 16436955

>BRIDENSTINE TO LEAD NASA MARS SAMPLE RETURN STRATEGY REVIEW

WE ARE BACK

https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/bridenstine-to-lead-nasa-mars-sample-return-strategy-review/

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Anonymous No. 16436958

>>16436911
same energy

Anonymous No. 16436959

>>16436955
BIG JIM

Anonymous No. 16436960

Question for (you):

Did launching Flight 1 (B7 / S24) was a mistake ? I mean, that Booster spent 2 years from production to launch, i dont even consider him Block 1, more like Block 0.5. It was old... like really old. Many parts dating back to early 2021. Those Raptors were very very very old , they never tested all the 33 raptors at the same time correctly.

It was a big gamble that costed the team 7 months of precious time

Anonymous No. 16436961

>>16436955
>In June, NASA awarded 10 study contracts and added an 11th earlier this month to submit ideas on a quick-turnaround basis. The industry proposers received $1.5 million fixed-price study contracts.
>The Bridenstine-led Mars Sample Return Strategy Review Team established yesterday will examine those options “for a complete mission design, which may be a composite of multiple studied design elements” and report “by the end of 2024.” Other members are:

>Greg Robinson, former program director, James Webb Space Telescope
>Lisa Pratt, former planetary protection officer, NASA
>Steve Battel, president, Battel Engineering; Professor of Practice, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
>Phil Christensen, regents professor, School of Earth and Space Exploration, Arizona State University, Tempe
>Eric Evans, director emeritus and fellow, MIT Lincoln Lab
>Jack Mustard, professor of Earth, Environmental, and Planetary Science, Brown University
>Maria Zuber, E. A. Griswold professor of Geophysics and presidential advisor for science and technology policy, MIT

Anonymous No. 16436962

>>16436960
it wasn't.
getting flight data, any data, was more valueable than spending more time fucking around and working off of assumptions.

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Anonymous No. 16436963

>>16436594
keked and so true

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Anonymous No. 16436964

>>16436955
Please put him back in charge of everything, 2017 Jim era NASA was actually comfy, so much hope

Anonymous No. 16436969

>>16436653
>These subsidies exist to directly benefit white sister-fuckers.
is that anything like being a baby-dick sucker?

Anonymous No. 16436972

>>16436960
it's still always a good reference point, especially if you're flying updated generations of hardware every launch or so. Old raptors or not, still would have fucked the pad either way without the steel plate and deluge

Anonymous No. 16436978

>>16436083
>Together, multiple bots build a shared understanding of their environment
Isn't that what the robot enemies in Mass Effect did? Sounds risky

Anonymous No. 16436985

>>16436083
Martian simulated environment testing would be nice (also zero g testing on a orbiting dragon)

Anonymous No. 16436987

>>16436978
swarm intelligence isn't new

Anonymous No. 16436988

>>16436955
HE HUNGERS... FOR ROGGS!

Anonymous No. 16436989

>>16436978
>Isn't that what Voldemort in Harry Potter did? Sounds risky

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Anonymous No. 16436990

>>16436955
THIS IS HUGE
WE ARE SO BACK
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous No. 16436992

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847024043536404569

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Anonymous No. 16436994

>>16435732
please protect Elon and keep him safe

Anonymous No. 16436995

>>16436992
He's speaking now? nearly missed it

Anonymous No. 16436996

>>16436992
Damn Elon's looking good. I'm glad the memes got to him

Anonymous No. 16436997

When is the next Kyplanet video dropping?

Anonymous No. 16437000

>>16436992
>tan MAGA hat
based

Anonymous No. 16437002

>>16436997
Shut up you sound like you got swirlied in high school

Anonymous No. 16437009

>>16436992
the past 5 years have been a wild ride

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>>16436783

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Anonymous No. 16437014

>>16437009
the future's so bright, we'll need more than shades to see it

Anonymous No. 16437016

>>16436992
anyone else's stream a bit shit?

Anonymous No. 16437017

>>16436969
Takes one to know one

Anonymous No. 16437024

>>16436992
He's such a stuttering sperg lmao. It's hard to listen to

Anonymous No. 16437027

>>16437024
His audio is fucked

Anonymous No. 16437028

>>16436846
oy vey

Anonymous No. 16437030

>>16436985
>Martian simulated environment testing would be nice
this, I want to build a big (near) vacuum chamber and be able to get it to "Martian" conditions inside, then I charge companies to test their products in it so as to get their "Mars Certified" stamp from me, also I would love to introduce different species of moss and lichen and other biota into it and see if anything eventually can survive

Anonymous No. 16437032

>>16437028
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16437043

>>16437030
that's a nice business idea

Anonymous No. 16437046

>>16437043
thanks, nobody steal it pls

Anonymous No. 16437047

>>16436992
they shut it down

Anonymous No. 16437052

Rememeber when the space industry was laughing at SpaceX for putting landing legs on a booster? How far weve come.

Anonymous No. 16437053

>>16437027
>>16437047
I was listening to the shitty spaces from his phone and didnt even know there was a video stream

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Anonymous No. 16437064

How often should we check on Europa Clipper, /sfg/?

Anonymous No. 16437065

>>16437064
About once a minute

Anonymous No. 16437071

>>16437027
That's just how he sounds

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Anonymous No. 16437073

>>16437014
The future's so bright, we won't need eyes to see

Anonymous No. 16437076

eager space: based or cringe?

Anonymous No. 16437081

>>16435825
>neither Apollo 13 nor The Right Stuff are listed as options
I hate plebs so much.

Anonymous No. 16437084

>>16435861
the plot of the Martian but instead of sending a rescue mission it's about Mark Watney making the thousand mile trip halfway across Mars to the SpaceX base

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>>16436373
based

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Anonymous No. 16437087

If you are a /sfg/got, you MUST voot for Drumpf this election.

Anonymous No. 16437089

>>16437076
eager larper

Anonymous No. 16437090

>>16437087
so cumala will ban spacefaring and civilization? seems a bit extreme?

Anonymous No. 16437091

>>16437090
Mosk said so, so it must be truth

Anonymous No. 16437093

>>16436627
I'm glad he's prioritizing the important things

Anonymous No. 16437094

>>16437089
I haven't yet heard him say anything which is wrong. He probably posts here.

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Anonymous No. 16437095

Just in time to save the thread

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Anonymous No. 16437096

Repent sinners

Anonymous No. 16437097

>>16437084
Handmer did a short story version of the Martian where it's taking place in a Starship context.
As I recall Watney gets left behind accidentally and is making his way through a vast automated industrial site with starships coming and going, overwhelmed with supplies but with no easy way to tell which ship contains food and which contains concentrated nitric acid or whatever. It was cool.

Anonymous No. 16437098

>>16435732
>When Trump wins
Honestly might see some big spending increases in space spending, the space force and commercial space are going to his legacies moving forward and a manned landing in the 28 launch window isn't impossible

Anonymous No. 16437099

>>16437096
Praise the Omnissiah

Anonymous No. 16437100

>>16437087
Elon musk needs me?! OK. I'll do it. I'm going to bat for you Elon.

Anonymous No. 16437101

>>16437096
why as this painting made? didthe creator intend it ironically or unironically?

Anonymous No. 16437103

>>16436567
new hoi iv ideology

Anonymous No. 16437105

>>16437101
https://www.conorwalton.com/index.html

honestly no idea

Anonymous No. 16437106

>>16437090
>so cumala will ban spacefaring and civilization?
not exactly but she will give all the money that would have gone towards it to blacks as ""reparations""

Anonymous No. 16437107

>>16436253
>86 km
isn't that kinda high still? they should be much closer to 70km if they want real deceleration

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Anonymous No. 16437109

>>16437105
lmao

Anonymous No. 16437110

>>16437106
they should call it niggerations lol :D

Anonymous No. 16437111

>>16437107
They want to change orbit inclination with as little energy loss as possible.

Anonymous No. 16437113

>>16437097
I would actually pay to see this (and it could star Ben Affleck, ha get it, not Matt Damon but instead... forget it)

Anonymous No. 16437114

>>16437109
ironic or unironic?

Anonymous No. 16437115

>>16437106
And the FAA under that admin would continue the intentional slowdown of Starship testing we've seen over the last few years, and this year specifically. I want that to stop, Trump wants SpaceX to succeed so he can brag about it, our interests are aligned on this issue.

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Anonymous No. 16437117

>>16436919
flights 4 and 5 were e2e tho

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Anonymous No. 16437118

>>16437105
kino

Anonymous No. 16437120

I don't understand why kemala presidency has anything to do with how retarded and slow FAA is? They'll be retarded and slow either way.

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Anonymous No. 16437122

should the US just declare that these are the borders of THE UNITED STATES OF MARS?

Anonymous No. 16437125

>>16437114
still no idea. Looks he's actually a really decent artist though, the complete ambiguity is nice for once

Anonymous No. 16437126

>>16437120
It's an executive branch organization. The president is responsible for it.

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Anonymous No. 16437127

>>16437122
No, I want the whole thing.

Anonymous No. 16437128

>>16437120
>why do black women hate progress and the glories of space

Anonymous No. 16437129

>>16436815
Depending on how much mass they have to add to make the tiles safe enough, which seems to be slowly creeping up. IIRC they turned away from methane sweating due to added complexity and mass from plumbing.

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>>16437122
this could be their flag

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Anonymous No. 16437132

>>16437118
Frogs

Anonymous No. 16437134

>>16437128
>space
>aint nobody got no time fo that shit

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Anonymous No. 16437135

>>16437130
No it's this

Anonymous No. 16437136

>>16437095
bau bau

Anonymous No. 16437137

>>16437127
>reports are coming in that Chancellor Musk has annexed New Sudetenland and SpaceX tanks are crossing into the Polish territories...

Anonymous No. 16437139

>>16437135
that's reserved for the japanese colony

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>>16437118
>>16437132
one of us?

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Anonymous No. 16437147

>>16437142
/sfg/ has been proposing this for a while in one form or another

Anonymous No. 16437150

>>16437142
Total FAA Death?

Anonymous No. 16437151

>>16437142
Anyone dreaming of replacing the FAA with OST needs to explain how launch/re-entry air traffic interactions are going to work

Designated launch/re-entry corridors are the only way, but KSC's TFRs dramatically impact MCO and cannot be permanent

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Anonymous No. 16437152

>>16437135
Wrong, it's a sphere. You mount it on a pole

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>>16437122
>your hab is on the north side of the Valles Marineris
>match with a hot chick on tinder
>she lives on the south side of the Valles Marineris

Anonymous No. 16437157

>>16436769
There seems to be quite a bit of consistency in the types of anons found in /sfg/. They usually have many of the same overlaps in interests of things outside of the thread.

Anonymous No. 16437160

does anyone know if Kennedy had consulted with anyone before choosing to go to the moon, or did he just made an arbitrary choice to one up the commies and sort the requirements after the fact?

Anonymous No. 16437162

>>16437160
You could have just done a web search
https://www.nasa.gov/history/the-decision-to-go-to-the-moon/

Anonymous No. 16437164

>>16437151
>the agency SHALL issue the TFR(s)
>the agency SHALL issue the NOTAM(s)
>the agency SHALL do so within 72hrs
It's that easy

Anonymous No. 16437177

>>16437160
he probably got an oooh! out of Marilyn by joking about it so then he bounced the idea off his brother Bobby and then maybe asked Buckminster Fuller if it was possible

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Anonymous No. 16437180

>>16436263
oh boy, more boosters dropped on chinese villagers
>>16436384
this should be helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSM6fBdmuso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=687HCq5cXvc
>>16437154
stupid frogposter

Anonymous No. 16437181

>>16437151
When we get to the flight rates which necessitate permanently restricted airspace space flight operations should be reliable enough that they don't need Xbox huge flight corridors.

Anonymous No. 16437194

just don't fly over a launch tower retard

Anonymous No. 16437202

>>16437194
This, go around asshole

Anonymous No. 16437209

>>16437194
>>16437202
yeah, just make the airspace from 0 to 100k ft for 10km around any launch tower off limits, assholes

Anonymous No. 16437215

>>16437209
>>16437194
>>16437202
how about just employ air traffic controllers who tell planes to get out the way when a rocket is lifting off like they would at a runway

Anonymous No. 16437216

>>16437194
>window pics of a starship taking off as you fly past
Kino

Anonymous No. 16437217

gotta ask, how long until some nut in a Cessna crashes it into a fully fueled Starship on the pad at like t - 10 minutes because he's mad about the beetles?

Anonymous No. 16437218

>>16437217
Like an environmentalist has enough money for a plane

Anonymous No. 16437221

>>16437217
could be 2 more weeks?

Anonymous No. 16437222

>>16437215
ummm that sounds like extra work and responsibility for them, you're gonna have to talk to their union about that

Anonymous No. 16437225

>>16435945
>no you can't send anything with potential microbes to Mars before we got a chance to analyze Mars microbes
>no we have no plan to actually analyze Mars microbes with a dedicated mission at any point
Literal comedy routine.

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Anonymous No. 16437228

>>16435945
There is no life on Mars. There never was any life on Mars. The only life that will ever be on Mars is the life humans send there.

Anonymous No. 16437232

>>16436722
Tack on extra $150 million in infrastructure costs. The taxpayer still comes out ahead.

Anonymous No. 16437234

>>16437217
He'd never make it past the SpaceX flak cannons.

Anonymous No. 16437240

>>16437086
damn that looks good

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Anonymous No. 16437241

>>16437234
SPACEX NEEDS PATRIOT BATTERIES RIGHT NOW MR PRESIDENT!

Anonymous No. 16437243

>>16437217
this why E.R. Musk needs to build secret towers in Hokkaido.

Anonymous No. 16437244

>>16437241
We cannot allow, a star-ship gap!

Anonymous No. 16437245

>>16437228
There is life on Mars, you've seen it down on Viking

Anonymous No. 16437247

>>16437245
>add water and heat to perchlorates
>they decay into oxygen
>cook the rest of the perchlorates off and add water again
>no oxygen
must be bugs!

Anonymous No. 16437250

>>16436203
This is a thinly veiled proposal to cancel Artemis outright and replace it with robot landers.

Anonymous No. 16437253

>>16437247
perchlorates is a conspiracy. There is no evidence for perchlorates on Mars.

Anonymous No. 16437257

>>16437151
>needs to explain how launch/re-entry air traffic interactions are going to work

Better than those interactions happening every 2 months

Anonymous No. 16437258

>>16437122
>mars space port is in boca chica, New Texas, USM

Anonymous No. 16437259

>>16437087
Not asking about politics here, just /sfg/ users and what it's like to be them

Is there anyone who regulars here that is being tested by elon's transformation? I just wanted to ask if you were doing ok. Also designating a no bully zone around any replies.

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Anonymous No. 16437262

Anyone able to find the original that isn't a literal phone screen recording?

Anonymous No. 16437263

>>16437259
>>Is there anyone who regulars here that is being tested by elon's transformation?
I predicted his embrace of the Republican party years ago, extrapolated from the realization that SpaceX is building hardware which can launch massive strategic defense constellations. The only way to secure such contracts is with a Republican president in the White House. Democrats have never cared for strategic defense.

Anonymous No. 16437265

>>16437263
is that you brilliant pebbles poster

Anonymous No. 16437266

I hope musk doesn’t join the office for government efficiency or whatever. He already wastes too much time on Twitter.
I’m sure he could do good things as he did with twitter but space is more important.
We can’t miss out on becoming a space ferrying civilization because Elon got sucked into Washington’s distopia.

Anonymous No. 16437270

>>16437265
of course

Anonymous No. 16437273

>>16437266
But other technologies are wrapped in red tape screaming for help

Anonymous No. 16437275

>>16437266
If he can shit directly into the government maybe he'll feel less temptation to shit onto twitter.

Anonymous No. 16437277

>>16437266
>I hope Elon doesn't do anything to further his goals outside of a narrow range of things that I approve of. Anything that doesn't jerk off my dopamine is a waste of time and I wish he'd be smart enough to understand that

Anonymous No. 16437285

>>16437277
yeah but if we're being real, Tesla has outlasted its usefulness and should probably be cut loose at this point. Starlink has secured SpaceX's cash flow so the Tesla scheme (raising money though absurd P/E) is no longer needed, and besides, operating Tesla is the most likely Musk endeavor to get him into serious legal trouble.

Anonymous No. 16437294

>>16437285
How did a dumbass /g/ post get here?

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Anonymous No. 16437295

https://x.com/culpable_mink/status/1847025233280282930
Totally forgot Shelby once threatened Jim Bridenstine over his proposal to launch Orion on Falcon Heavy.

Anonymous No. 16437297

>>16437285
>Never mind that Tesla's motors, powerpacks, metallurgy, and assembly line organization have been vital to the Starship program, they're a distraction that's outlasted its usefulness
My guy, just how retarded are you trying to appear here? Elon's goals are in direct opposition to what the statist degrowthers want to do with this planet. There was always going to be lawfare from the state.

Anonymous No. 16437298

>>16437294
Have you even seen Tesla's P/E? Making money by pumping absurd levels of hype for future product into investors won't work forever and Elon is better off quitting that scheme while he's ahead.

Anonymous No. 16437299

>>16437295
Forcing spaceX to do plumbing for liquid hydrogen is almost as bad as just asking them to do a methalox third stage

Anonymous No. 16437304

when is peak viewing of this gay comet? i waited 45min after sunset, clear sky, cant see shit

Anonymous No. 16437305

>>16437275
Kek
>>16437273
You have to pick battles and he has already shown to be exceptional on this extremely important battle.
>>16437277
Who are you quoting?

Anonymous No. 16437306

>>16437304
skill issue

Anonymous No. 16437307

>>16437304
There is no comet

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Anonymous No. 16437308

>>16437304

Anonymous No. 16437310

>>16437298
P/E is price to earnings ratio. Hype doesn't increase earnings and it just raises the price when people buy. You're just buzzwording.

Also people buy tesla stock because they are growing and have low market share, so there's no ceiling in the way. They also deal in intersecting technologies that branch out into other revenue streams so all the eggs aren't in the car basket. Solar power, batteries, autonomous driving/AI, superchargers, semi, vehicle insurance, heat pumps, robots. Tesla batteries, electric motors, and interior design goes into spacex spacecraft, that's just what I know about. Data captured by cars and robots improves AI, and AI improves cars and robots. Elon wouldn't have been able to walk in and hostile take over twitter without tesla software engineers. And you're like "yeah he should throw away some chess pieces" lmao.

Anonymous No. 16437322

>>16437310
>>P/E is price to earnings ratio. Hype doesn't increase earnings and it just raises the price when people buy.
That's the point retard. Tesla's P/E is astronomical, investors have been pumped up with so much hype that Tesla cannot possibly ever accomplish what investors expect of them. Eventually the "FSD in two more weeks" shit isn't going to work on investors anymore. Elon should get out now and let it collapse under some other chump's watch.

Anonymous No. 16437323

what's next for failx now that they had the shitship heatshield fail AGAIN and are meant to be landing humans on the moon THIS YEAR but failed.

Anonymous No. 16437330

>>16437323
You don't need a heatshield to land people on the moon

Anonymous No. 16437332

>moon
>heatshield

Anonymous No. 16437335

>>16437322
If it's overpriced short sell it and we'll continue our conversation from your cardboard box. Also a company's stock price correcting is not the end of the company if they have more revenue than expenditures.

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Anonymous No. 16437337

First HLS landing is an unmanned tech demo. How do (you) ensure it doesn't tip over?

Anonymous No. 16437345

>>16437273
imagine if he unlocked nuclear.
its vital for Mars misisons of any kind, let alone a city of a million people. its even vital for the moon.
Not to mention the nuclear propulsion you could build for an interplanetary ferry. An Interplanetary Transport System, if you will.

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Anonymous No. 16437346

Eager jumpscare

Anonymous No. 16437353

>>16437337
Same way I do it in KSP: huge RCS thrusters on top

Anonymous No. 16437359

>>16437353
don't forget to turn the dampers on the landing legs up!

Anonymous No. 16437367

>>16436955
Just when you think it’s as over as it will ever be… a “we are so back” rises

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Anonymous No. 16437372

The hexaweb

Anonymous No. 16437375

>>16437337
Same way Larch Bellamy did: I'll just let the gyros handle it.

Anonymous No. 16437383

>>16437262
This sort of shit has become a global pandemic. You have the file on your phone, just post the file!! No need to screenshot!!

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Anonymous No. 16437385

My collection grows

Anonymous No. 16437387

>>16437385
Faglet, everyone knows real men collect mementos for every launch instead of the cheap plastic shit they sell you online.

Anonymous No. 16437389

>>16437285
>Tesla has outlasted its usefulness and should probably be cut loose at this point.
It probably already has in spirit. That last tesla presentation had very little Elon in it, it seemed. It was all show with no substance

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Anonymous No. 16437391

damn Boeing got told
https://futurism.com/the-byte/nasa-abandons-starliner-upcoming-missions

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Anonymous No. 16437396

Now that the dust has settled, why shouldn't Elon put Starlink as a mass simulator for flight 6? What's the estimated metric tonnage to LEO currently anyway? If they can do 400+ sats a mission than they can fill their 12k shell in like 12 launches

Anonymous No. 16437397

>>16437391
I hate popsci headlines

Anonymous No. 16437398

>>16437396
>400+ sats a mission
That was last-gen Starlink, the ones intended to launch on Starship are bigger.

Anonymous No. 16437400

>>16437387
I have pubes from every girl i fucked

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Anonymous No. 16437402

>>16436992
I was there. Would’ve asked him something sfg approved but too many normalfags with the worst possible questions ahead. Trying to get a ticket for tomorrow.

Anonymous No. 16437405

>>16437400
I said every launch not every slut youve encountered. You dont collect things for every shit you take so why this? Do manwhores really?

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Anonymous No. 16437410

Dogs will not be allowed on Mars. Mars will be a cat planet.

Anonymous No. 16437419

>>16435732
The single greatest act of regulatory capture in US history. It'll literally be his job to restructure regulatory agencies in his own favor.

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Anonymous No. 16437422

>>16437405
I collect rocks too

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Anonymous No. 16437427

yep, im thinking she's hot

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Anonymous No. 16437428

>>16437410
Both dogs and cats suck. I prefer parrots, though it's a shame that most birds are unable to swallow in a zero-g environment, so they would have to be hand-fed all the time before getting there.

Anonymous No. 16437436

>>16437427
Yep, Im thinking youre a coal burner

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Anonymous No. 16437445

>elon unironically thinks supporting trump will get him to mars quicker

Anonymous No. 16437452

>>16437445
Trump's ego is fueled by big flashy American space achievements. Kamala's handlers want to actively delay everything Elon does.
Do the math, retard.

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Anonymous No. 16437453

>>16437452
Well fuck you too then

Anonymous No. 16437454

>>16437402
Based, hope you get to ask your question.

Anonymous No. 16437457

NASA is so fucked lmao

Anonymous No. 16437458

>>16437402
Ask him why he didn't use liquid flourine as an oxidizer for Starship.

Anonymous No. 16437461

>>16437457
Why

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Anonymous No. 16437463

>>16437458
Nigga what

Anonymous No. 16437468

>>16437402
Just ask here, I'm convinced he lurks. As for getting an answer just wait for a sign.

Anonymous No. 16437469

>>16437468
Youre a pest.

Anonymous No. 16437470

>>16437463
minmaxing the rocket equation by having the rocket itself be the fuel for the oxidizer

Anonymous No. 16437472

>>16437445
It will
And it's obvious

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Anonymous No. 16437474

>>16437410

Anonymous No. 16437478

https://x.com/farzyness/status/1847051545428299822

Anonymous No. 16437479

>>16437410
Cats will be livestock on the Haitian sector

Anonymous No. 16437480

>>16437478
elon needs me?

Anonymous No. 16437482

>>16437470
the fabled caseless booster

Anonymous No. 16437483

>>16437480
You're Elon's strongest soldier

Anonymous No. 16437485

Guys felon husk said you need to go vote for drumpf because muh future of da world and kamabla will doom us to never go to mars eventhoughhowever nothing ever happens

Anonymous No. 16437486

Elon out there doing everything and anything barely short of straight up buying Pennsylvanians votes kek

Anonymous No. 16437487

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847058080841744540

Anonymous No. 16437488

>>16437485
You haven't been paying attention for the last few years I'd you think nothing has happened

Anonymous No. 16437490

>>16437470
recyclable rockets

Anonymous No. 16437493

/sfg/ is kill

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Anonymous No. 16437494

>>16437487

Anonymous No. 16437496

>>16437493
source?

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Anonymous No. 16437497

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847116693094445377

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Anonymous No. 16437499

>>16437497
After the FAA receives its whipping the FCC is next.

Anonymous No. 16437502

>>16437478
Many young people asking interesting questions

Anonymous No. 16437505

>>16437480
make sure you spill your spaghetti telling him all about /sfg/

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Anonymous No. 16437508

Pisslocks will be accepted tech in our lifetimes.

Anonymous No. 16437509

>>16436948
People would get fined to hell and you can't use charity funds to pay them off.

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Anonymous No. 16437510

>>16437478
>its possible that a handful of votes the election
>decides the fate of civilization

Anonymous No. 16437513

>>16437427
Bet she has a hairy pussy!

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Anonymous No. 16437514

>>16437505
kek

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Anonymous No. 16437515

>>16437505
>>16437514

Anonymous No. 16437516

>>16437513
Oh yes, very much so ;)

Anonymous No. 16437519

>>16437516
Also a cute ring of hair around her slightly gaping pink anus? :0

Anonymous No. 16437521

>>16437519
HAHA

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Anonymous No. 16437526

These got deleted btw

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Anonymous No. 16437528

https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1847058141269446939

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Anonymous No. 16437529

>>16437528
https://www.johnkrausphotos.com/Galleries/Launches/Starship-Flight-Test-5

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>>16437529

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Anonymous No. 16437531

>>16437530

Anonymous No. 16437532

>>16437526
Ok now THIS is shitposting

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>>16437531

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>>16437533

Anonymous No. 16437558

>>16437526
Honestly kinda based

Anonymous No. 16437565

>>16437458
kek imagine his autism derailing his rally

Anonymous No. 16437569

>>16437565
Someone ask him about space elevators!

Anonymous No. 16437571

Has Melon ever played KSP? He seems to have a really trash taste in video games.

Anonymous No. 16437573

>>16437571
Why would Fantano ever play KSP? Hes not a space guy

Anonymous No. 16437574

>>16437573
Who?

Anonymous No. 16437577

>>16437574
>he doesnt know

Anonymous No. 16437580

>>16437375
>Larch Bellamy
He didn't land do good

Anonymous No. 16437581

>>16437571
I feel like he would feel constrained by KSP. He wouldn't like autistic games where you're forced to obey strict rules and being railroaded into doing something a certain way (see also: Factorio)

Anonymous No. 16437585

>>16437571
If he really wants people to start liking space, maybe he could invest a tiny bit of his vast fortune into making an AAA, ultra-realistic spaceflight video game that could run in more than 2 frames per second, that features real-sized astronauts instead of those green bean things you all call kerbals. is that too much to ask for? or is starship getting to sedna and back more likely to happen?

Anonymous No. 16437587

>>16437581
After reading Isaacson's book I'm convinced he would call the developer and yell at them like they were engineers at a Starship development meeting and they they should return to 1st principles before deciding if something can or can't be done in the game.

Anonymous No. 16437588

>>16437585
So, updated Orbiter?

Anonymous No. 16437601

>>16437581
Speaking of Factorio, who else is calling in sick next week?

Anonymous No. 16437603

>>16437387
someone sounds mad that they failed to collect all the patches thus far :)

Anonymous No. 16437605

>>16437259
>tested by elon's transformation
Musk hasnt changed much. Hes been mixed libertarian for the past 20+ years, anti-regulation, anti-big gov, pro-America, etc. Elon's stayed the same. Whats changed is the shift of the political parties who are now changing their positions. Back 20 years ago, Rs were in favor of censorship and war. Now its the Ds in favor of heavy mass censorship and pro-war party. Abuse of federal agency to target political enemies from the D are corruption of politics as well.

Anonymous No. 16437606

>>16437581
>>16437587
That's an interesting observation about the difference between engineers and leaders.

Anonymous No. 16437608

>>16437445
We've been telling you this for 4 years

Anonymous No. 16437609

>>16437142
ABSOLUTE FAA DEATH

>>16437266
If he can even cut down 1% of the gov jobs, 1% of the regulations, its a good thing. I feel like the byzantine is rooted too firmly and is unable to be rooted out

Anonymous No. 16437611

>>16437391
>futurism
woke garbage tabloid

Anonymous No. 16437614

>>16437445
>he's still in denial of the reality of political lawfare against spacex/musk over the last 4 years

Anonymous No. 16437615

>>16437142
Holy shit, no one ever complain about Elon's twitter whining ever again.
>>16437151
literally just tell airlines to fly at their own risk? enough with the nanny state

Anonymous No. 16437623

>>16435928
>I wonder why he thought they had such a low chance
Because they've landed hundreds of Falcon 9's now and know the early margins?

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Anonymous No. 16437625

Could a nuclear thermal upper stage (instead of ICPS) on an expendable FH send an Apollo CSM + Lander to TLI in a single launch?

Anonymous No. 16437628

>>16436241
Mass.
Anemic hydrogen will always be anemic hydrogen even if you bring the biggest fucking SRBs in the world to shake you to jelly.

Anonymous No. 16437637

>>16437623
early margins?

Anonymous No. 16437639

>>16437637
Margins for success early in the program. Still on my first cup of coffee but didn't think I'd have to be that specific for people to understand.

Anonymous No. 16437643

>>16437625
With an ISP of ~800 seconds on a ~20 ton second stage (basically the same as DCSS) and an 80% propellant mass fraction, with an Apollo Command and Service Module and Apollo Lunar Module as payload, the nuclear upper stage could apply a Delta-V of 2.963 km/s. This is slightly short of the 3.12 km/s needed for a trans-lunar injection burn from Low Earth Orbit, but increasing the gross mass of the nuclear stage to 25,000 kilograms would give 3.478 km/s of Delta-V, which would be more than sufficient and still within the stated gross mass lifting capabilities of the Falcon Heavy.

Anonymous No. 16437645

>>16437643
arigato, ChatGPT-sama

Anonymous No. 16437646

>>16437643
Would you even need the falcon second stage? As i understand it the MECO velocity and altitude is very high if in fully expendable config (pretty much in orbit already), just make the nuclear upper stage bigger

Anonymous No. 16437648

>>16437646
Without an upper stage, Falcon Heavy would still be very short of the Delta-V needed to put the rest of the payload in orbit, and that would necessitate a much larger nuclear upper stage than a piddly 20,000 kilogram one, and you'd need a lot more engines to make up for the gravity losses.

Anonymous No. 16437651

>>16437639
I still don't understand your point
you think musk thought they would have the same probabilities as during F9 landing attempts and did not reach the conclusion based on the actual engineering?
a lot what they learned is transferable, that is why I didn't understand your point (still not really sure desu)

Anonymous No. 16437682

>>16437486
Honestly if Trump wins the election thanks to PA going his way by a small margin the seethe directed at Elon will be ridiculous.

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Anonymous No. 16437685

>>16437487
>Musk quoting Disney
Careful, the timelines are merging

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Anonymous No. 16437687

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1847091614780740040

Anonymous No. 16437689

>>16437682
it already is, will be interesting to see how it can ramp up from here
I think what will get people really mad is if he starts cutting jobs from bureucracies

Anonymous No. 16437690

>>16437687
HE WAS A WEEK LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
FELON HUSK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16437692

>>16437687
SEVEN days late! see what an unacceptable fraud, hopefully felon will be jailed soon for his scams

Anonymous No. 16437693

>>16437689
>>16437682
I mean that is when you really get the unhinged hate where a person dedicates their free time to it (which they will have a lot of because they are unemployed)

Anonymous No. 16437694

>>16437687
Pretty much everything from the starship update 6 months ago is exactly as he estimated, successful booster catch, orbital refuelling by mid 2025 etc

Anonymous No. 16437712

>>16437694
>orbital refuelling by mid 2025
unlikely but possible

Anonymous No. 16437716

>>16437712
assuming no more massive licensing delays I think 2025 orbital refueling is a lock

Anonymous No. 16437722

>>16437651
>I still don't understand your point
Well, that's a you problem.

Anonymous No. 16437757

>>16437571
yeah he's mentioned it a few times
i think he also replied to their account when they showed off a WIP model for a nuclear engine they were making for KSP2(RIP)

Anonymous No. 16437769

>>16437685
disney looking remarkably like hitler there

Anonymous No. 16437771

>>16437488
No I haven't been paying attention (other than to spaceflight).
There have been 0(zero) negative impacts on me thus far because of this. Politics is fake and gay.

Anonymous No. 16437774

>>16437628
was it worth the dead astronauts? foam strikes werent happening until after the paint was removed?

Anonymous No. 16437777

>>16436241
>NASA
we have laborynthian reviews ontop of reviews ontop of reviews and won't do anything unless its tested 10x and safe
>Also NASA
Remove the paint and expose the insulation foam to hypersonic winds! WHAT COULD GO WRONG !!!1!! Tee-Hee!!!!

Anonymous No. 16437778

>>16437716
Its going to be tough for them to get 2 starships in orbit at the same time to dock and do what is only a demo, but using full size vehicles.
A true refueling mission is much more than can be achieved in 2025, even by SpaceX. They simply must have 4+ operational towers, and reusable vehicles, before they can get a useful ship refueled to the point worthy to actually depart for the Moon of Mars.
If Musk gets his way, construction crews have their work cut out for them. Building more towers, with the complete tanks farms, mechazilla parts, flame trenches, etc is simply a construction marathon. Not to mention the environmental lawsuit nightmare to come.
I'm optimistic, but 2025 might only see one empty ship park next to another empty ship, and it wont be more than a squirt of my sperm. Not "refueling".

Anonymous No. 16437779

>>16437778
would be a good test of the heat shield if they fill the ship up a little and burn to an eccentric orbit with perigee in the atmopshere

Anonymous No. 16437783

>>16437778
what do you think "refueling" entails that makes it need 4 operational towers?

Anonymous No. 16437788

>>16437779
They cant even get the heat shield to survive a minimal orbital reentry, why would they need to test with even more velocity?
That would be a good test for the Orion capsule, not Starship.

Anonymous No. 16437789

>>16437783
Because they have to catch both the boosters, and ships. They will need at least 4 towers, 2 in TX and 2 more in FL. And, that is just for Artemis...

Anonymous No. 16437790

>>16437774
The shuttle stack was a cursed vehicle with or without paint.

Anonymous No. 16437791

>>16437778
even a partial refuel of only 1 tanker to a ship counts imho, another milestone down that crabs claim is impossible

Anonymous No. 16437792

>>16437774
There'd still be risk of ice strikes, its inherent in the design of having your reentry surface right next to a yuuge cryogenic tank

Anonymous No. 16437793

>>16437789
they can catch the booster and ship with the same tower and they can launch using one tower, its just going to take more time and more launches due to propellant venting

Anonymous No. 16437796

>>16437788
but it does survive orbital re-entry? what the fuck are you talking about
the only section that has had some problems is a hinge where the gas flow gets sped up due to restricted flow
its a special case which is already solved for Block 2 and even then, it wasn't a crippling problem for the ship on flight 5

Anonymous No. 16437799

>>16437788
this is for the future. surely they want to figurre out the heatshield at some point right?

Anonymous No. 16437802

>>16437791
Checking a box doesn't mean we are sending multiple ships to Mars in the next window.
I expect a refuel level appropriate for a Mars journey and landing will fully need 10 tankers worth of fuel, and zero boil off systems in place. Its ridiculously ambitions to think its going to hit those goals on time. They will, but late.

Anonymous No. 16437803

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/biden-administration-curtails-controls-on-some-space-related-exports/
>“They’re easing restrictions on some of the less sensitive space-related technologies and on spacecraft-related items going to our closest allies, like Australia, Canada, and the UK," the senior Commerce official said. "These changes will offer relief to US companies and they’ll increase innovation without comprising the critical technologies that keep our nation safe."

the Australian starship base takes another step towards reality

Anonymous No. 16437813

>>16437792
the engineers thought of this and the ET got very little ice thanks to the insulation. try to spot any ice in a video and you will struggle. as far as I know all the tile damage was caused by foam, which peeled off because it was exposed to supersonic air due to retarded paint haters.

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Anonymous No. 16437815

How would you handle the tile problem?

Anonymous No. 16437817

>>16437815
just make them not ablate, simple as

Anonymous No. 16437819

>>16437815
there is already normalization of deviance going on with the flap hinge burnthrough being seen as 'safe enough to survive'. this will inevitably kill a crew unless elon goes deomon mode on it.

Anonymous No. 16437822

>>16436923
>>16436920
I checked her twitter. That bitch is a mudshark and her face is photoshopped in the ads. You're welcome.

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Anonymous No. 16437825

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1847260036315152547

Anonymous No. 16437826

>>16437815
hot swappable aeroshell

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Anonymous No. 16437828

https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1847101348375859239

Anonymous No. 16437829

>>16437815
Stoke Space does not have this problem

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Anonymous No. 16437830

https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1847144424339317049

posted 7h ago so I guess 3h until Everyday Astronaut video comes out

Anonymous No. 16437831

>>16437803
>UK
don't make me post it

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>>16437830

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>>16437833

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>>16437834

Anonymous No. 16437836

>>16436978
>appeal to fiction
You should be ashamed

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>>16437835
>The chine is still intact in this shot! (Assuming that The one in question is not hidden on the other side)
>Erryday: We have it popping off
>What do you think caused it? The relight and whole lot of rocket fuel in that exact spot?
>Erryday:Nah just aero forces. The underlying COPV appeared to be fine. Just cosmetic

Anonymous No. 16437838

>>16437829
apples and oranges

Anonymous No. 16437841

>>16437090
No, she'll just use the government to stop any meaningful progress.

Anonymous No. 16437845

>>16436582
the worse takeaway: people think the fantasy movie Interstellar is as realistic as Gravity

Anonymous No. 16437846

>>16437120
That's just you being retarded and slow. The head of the agency is appointed by the president. When the administration is unfriendly to an organization the agencies respond accordingly.

Anonymous No. 16437849

>>16436584
accurate depiction of isogrid manufacturing

Anonymous No. 16437850

>>16437819
That's why they're moving the flaps back. They're trying to eliminate burn-through, not accept it.

Anonymous No. 16437851

>>16437815
reserving judgement on tile issues until they actually drag one out of the ocean for inspection. It's hard to tell how much of the visible ablation is from around pre designated tileless points. Even if you're replacing the tiles every few flights they have the infrastructure in place to automate most of that process

Anonymous No. 16437852

>>16437819
>this will inevitably kill a crew unless elon goes deomon mode on it.
Starship will never be crew rated. Its a cargo carrier and that's all it needs to be

Anonymous No. 16437853

would be interesting to see which way the spacex team are voting. i would guess shotwell is voting repub because she wants to divorce her husband and be married to elon so bad, dan from the starship broadcast is definitely repub. what about tice and jessie? i think jessie is a lifelong dem.

Anonymous No. 16437862

>>16437852
HLS

Anonymous No. 16437865

>>16437862
HLS never has to reenter so it doesn't count

Anonymous No. 16437869

>>16437853
abolish the 19th amendment

Anonymous No. 16437872

>>16437118
i love surrealist LMs

Anonymous No. 16437877

>>16437160
he didn't invent it that's for sure. there had been a lot of talks before that happened as i remember reading aboot it. Still the best speech delivery ever if you ask me. love it.
>because it is haahd....

Anonymous No. 16437878

>>16437852
>Starship will never be crew rated
a bold claim.

Anonymous No. 16437880

>>16437877
>"we choose to go to the moon, and do the other things"
ruined it for me. he should have not mentioned all the other bullshit, it should have been just about the moon.
>"we choose to go to the moon, not because it is easy, but because it is hard!"

Anonymous No. 16437882

>>16437852
>crew rated
By who? NASA? Who gives a fuck. If Richard Branson can fly people on his death trap to nowhere then Starship should be a breeze

Anonymous No. 16437884

>>16437865
Human-rated implies you put people on it.
HLS will be human-rated, HLS is Starship.
Starship will be human rated, your premise was false. Recant.

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Anonymous No. 16437891

>>16437890
based, SpaceX will now make the Dollar the solar system reserve currency

Anonymous No. 16437892

I am looking for an infographics or page that would should maximum payloads of available launch systems to locations beyond Earth. I only found those that show LEO or GEO. Anyone?

Anonymous No. 16437894

>>16437890
some hack graphic designer is getting paid six figs right now for this slop

Anonymous No. 16437897

haven't seen this posted here yet. Sen's cameras on ISS but actually in 4k unlike on X. stream cuts out a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXb9daWjmII

Anonymous No. 16437901

>>16437890
>uhhh actually the economy is great and that's why Elon can launch rockets! make sure you vote for the lady that makes the economy so great!

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Anonymous No. 16437914

Tower 2 cable chain and two even bigger propellant subcoolers for the tank farm being delivered to the launch site.
Also, convoys of tanker trucks. Big things happening at Starbase, flight 6 soon?

Anonymous No. 16437915

>>16437510
https://x.com/america/status/1847033231985832039

Anonymous No. 16437916

>>16437914
those are victorian era diving bells.

Anonymous No. 16437917

>>16437914
the plan would be nice to know

Anonymous No. 16437921

>>16437914
It means there's no flight soon and they can continue with starbase development

Anonymous No. 16437922

>>16437897
shocked me as a child finding out that we dont have live views of the gas giants from space. the stream would be comfy and there would always be a /pol/ schizo thread about the latest MEGA STORM forming on jupiter

Anonymous No. 16437924

>>16437914
2 weeks

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Anonymous No. 16437925

>>16437901
Asking someone about their view on the economy is in large part measuring if they like the party of the president.
You'd think the US is in recession or stagnating if you just listened to 4chong talk.
>actually that's not real growth but when Mr. Trump was in office it totally was!
zzz

Anonymous No. 16437926

>>16437917
RGV is the best source of speculation and educated guesses with the flyover photo review. Those niggers need to do a flyover every fucking day.

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Anonymous No. 16437928

>>16437830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpxB1S-ohEU
>Starship Launch and Booster Catch Super Cut #ift5

Anonymous No. 16437930

>>16437897
What's the scientific value of using fisheye lenses in space?

Anonymous No. 16437933

>>16437921
The quick work on the existing OLM and chopsticks, along with the massive amount of propellant refilling, with urgency, suggests otherwise. They want all 5 allowed launches this year, from Boca. They will roll out the next booster as soon as possible and start testing.

Anonymous No. 16437935

>>16437510
People can lose few counties/state with just few thousand votes.

Anonymous No. 16437941

>>16437901
They're running on the argument that SpaceX has launched, Elon is successful because of woke politics of California. Its an insane view to have, that defies all that is reality, but when you're bought into the cult, you have to reframe what is happening in the reality to your cult doctrine.

Anonymous No. 16437943

>>16437925
fascinating graph, thank you

Anonymous No. 16437945

>>16437925
so from 2017, 3/4 lines go up until covid fucked everything, and then post 2021 4/4 lines go down even further lmao

Anonymous No. 16437951

>>16437930
fool people into thinking the earth is round.

Anonymous No. 16437952

>>16437933
LOL, see you in 5 months.

Anonymous No. 16437954

>>16437510
This has to be the single least flattering pic of Elon to ever exist.

Anonymous No. 16437955

>>16437945
NO, chud.

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Anonymous No. 16437958

>>16437914
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1847281331757027519

Anonymous No. 16437960

>>16437954
the gold hat is bad taste but otherwise whats wrong?

Anonymous No. 16437961

>>16437960
Have you looked at his face?

Anonymous No. 16437963

>>16437961
he always looks like that

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Anonymous No. 16437966

>>16437961

Anonymous No. 16437967

>>16437955
lines not go up now

Anonymous No. 16437969

>>16437941
The Economist is a Rothschild rag, global California is their desired goal

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Anonymous No. 16437971

>>16437964
The absolute state of the world today.

Anonymous No. 16437974

>>16437259
>Also designating a no bully zone around any replies.
Built for Big Bully Comments

Anonymous No. 16437977

>>16437285
Just wanted to make sure you know how dumb this post is

Anonymous No. 16437982

>>16437400
t. serial killer

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Anonymous No. 16437984

>>16437954

Anonymous No. 16437993

>>16437497
>30,000 Starlink satellites
WE GAAN

Anonymous No. 16438009

>>16437984
why was he getting hosed? humiliation ritual?

Anonymous No. 16438011

>>16437890
Post the article or buy an ad

Anonymous No. 16438012

>>16438009
It was to clean off the salt water before he sat on the fancy boat furniture.

Anonymous No. 16438017

>>16438012
i dont beleive you.

Anonymous No. 16438019

>>16437789
They can launch one full stack and then the other. It requires only one tower. Just put the first Starship in orbit.

Anonymous No. 16438020

>>16437970
>Portland

Anonymous No. 16438026

>>16437815
transpiration

Anonymous No. 16438029

>>16437830
>the photographers are the real heroes
I am back to hating this numale with my whole heart

Anonymous No. 16438033

>>16438017
Transpiration cooling test, you weren't supposed to know

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Anonymous No. 16438037

>>16437984
The book talks about this picture. He really didn't want to be there and couldn't enjoy himself as the Twitter buyout was looming and had begun to realize what he was getting himself into and feeling he had been mislead by the board of directors. SpaceX and Tesla were made in his image and could function in his absence, Twitter acquisition on the otherhand was like the Norman conquest in many ways and would take up a lot of time afterward. Pivoting back to Starship development and looking a lot less blubbery is probably not a coincidence.

Anonymous No. 16438043

>>16438017
It's pretty standard if you've ever been on a nice yacht. Salt has caused spaceprobes to fail.

Anonymous No. 16438046

>>16437925
>unfortunately I have prepared a graphic to distract you from runaway inflation

Anonymous No. 16438047

>>16437984
That one's still not as bad.

Anonymous No. 16438048

So now that musk is such an open partisan and target, what does he do when dems win in future?

Anonymous No. 16438049

>>16437966
"What's the deal with Blue Origin?"

Anonymous No. 16438053

STAGE
>>16438052
>>16438052
>>16438052

Anonymous No. 16438056

>>16438053
Belay that order and put this man in the brig!

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Anonymous No. 16438057

>>16438053
>page 8

Anonymous No. 16438058

>>16438053
Activate FTS on yourself

Anonymous No. 16438061

>>16438037
it did take a while and he did have to cut a lot of heads to remake it in his image
but I think its done now and can function independently to some extent like his other companies

Anonymous No. 16438064

>>16438043
yeah but he's not going to be sitting on a spaceprobe

Anonymous No. 16438067

>>16438053
>page 8
>184/250 images

Anonymous No. 16438068

>>16438064
that's what you think

Anonymous No. 16438071

>>16438048
continue doing what he has done just with increased lawfare

Anonymous No. 16438077

>>16437984
Why do people expect a 50 something year old bozo doing recreational stuff to look good in shirtless paparazzi shots? Is it because humans are just so used to staged and preplanned images of people on vacation on social media and the regular media? And it's easy to make anyone look retarded when you take 500 photos and get to choose which ones you release. This is not something unique to Musk of course. People come up with weird standards for celebrities

Anonymous No. 16438087

>>16437984
Mr. Bezos is helping me find my rocket

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Anonymous No. 16438089

>>16438077
it works both ways

>>16438064
He was a guest on that boat, having this attitude on a probe would get you ejected out the airlock.

Anonymous No. 16438099

>>16437815
Kys redditnigger

Anonymous No. 16438105

>>16438053
Exhausting

Anonymous No. 16438112

>>16438053
You are such a nigger newfag

Anonymous No. 16438115

What do we think of each of these slides from the last update? really interesting

https://www.humanmars.net/2024/04/spacex-starship-update-2024.html#more

Anonymous No. 16438120

>>16438115
Theres no new info. What is there to think about?

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Anonymous No. 16438124

Everyone, dont forget to go report the early stage thread for spamming/flooding so janny kills it

Anonymous No. 16438125

>>16438120
never really looked at it in detail before, a V3 ship going from 52m tall to potentially almost 70m is a huge difference though

Anonymous No. 16438126

>>16438115
>200+ tons to LEO in reusable configuration
Delusional until proven otherwise. I have no reason to blindly trust such a figure without real payload being put up.

Anonymous No. 16438130

Everyones favorite space CEO/leadership (cannot be Elon as he would win by default)?

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Anonymous No. 16438132

>>16438115
Was lunar superheavy always there in the background?

Anonymous No. 16438133

>>16437928
kinomatografie.

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Anonymous No. 16438134

>>16438115
ITS Europa chads...

Anonymous No. 16438135

>>16438130
Tom Mueller

Anonymous No. 16438136

>>16438125
Will they have to change the launch towers to handle the stretch a la SLS or was it baked in from the start

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16438137

>>16438130
Stefan Tweraser

Anonymous No. 16438140

>>16437922
Is there a single good reason we're not constantly sending livestreaming probes into whatever parts of the solar system we're interested in

Anonymous No. 16438144

>>16438140
nasa can't figure out how to build even a simple probe for less than 800 million dollars

Anonymous No. 16438156

>>16438126
Mage the rogget taller :DDDDD
Moar bayloadz :DDD

Anonymous No. 16438158

>>16438134
radiationbros...

Anonymous No. 16438162

>>16438130
Max Haot

Anonymous No. 16438165

>>16438132
I don't understand this. Will there ever be a lunar star ship that returns to earth?

Anonymous No. 16438167

Garrett Reisman has been seething at Trump on twitter. Sad to see

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Anonymous No. 16438170

>>16438165
Loaded with explosives maybe

Anonymous No. 16438171

>>16438165
Maybe, it does require a lunar orbit refueling for hls to get back to earth orbit but it's doable, you can even get the tanker back, landing on earth is a no go however.

Anonymous No. 16438172

>>16438167
gay

Anonymous No. 16438175

>>16438169
nasa should contract spacex to build a space tracking and comms layer just for them to replace TDRS.
call it EDS :^)

Anonymous No. 16438203

>>16437930
if your lenses aren't shitty fisheyes the NOAA and NRO kill you in your sleep for spying

Anonymous No. 16438210

>>16438134
What about Eris though?

Anonymous No. 16438213

>>16438211
>>16438211
>>16438211
>>16438211
staging

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Anonymous No. 16438216

>>16438213
this one is legitimate

Anonymous No. 16438218

>>16438213
Page 10, good job anon

Anonymous No. 16438219

>>16438213
baste

Anonymous No. 16438232

>>16438216
>>16438218
>>16438219
really struggle to see why so many have that difficulty waiting for page 10 to stage.
is it just newfaggotry because of the ebin launch recently or genuine malice from someone obsessed?

Anonymous No. 16438238

>>16438232
They just want their own thread.

Anonymous No. 16438300

>>16437880
>do the other things
i always understood that to mean all the other things needed to get to the moon and have space stations and stuff, but i suppose they meant the socialist programs for niggers.

>>16437890
im ok with this

Anonymous No. 16438303

>>16437914
thats a lot of wheels.

Anonymous No. 16438304

>>16437928
ok, this could be the vid ive been looking for
captcha; 8VGOO

Anonymous No. 16438307

>>16437969
CA wishes it could be Canada. CA isn't even trying compared to us.

Anonymous No. 16438344

>>16438300
>i always understood that to mean all the other things needed to get to the moon
he was talking about bullshit social programs during the same speech. sad.

Anonymous No. 16438380

>>16438344
suuuush dont ruin it lol

Anonymous No. 16438494

>>16438232
Hitting the image limit is a legitimate reason to stage before getting to page 10, any other reason is probably just /pol/ or tourist fagetry.

Anonymous No. 16438559

>>16437335
The market can remain irrational longer than I can remain solvent. I'm not stupid or rich enough to short Tesla, but that doesn't mean Tesla isn't overpriced.

Anonymous No. 16438601

>>16438494
wrong, hitting the image limit is not a legitimate reason to stage

Anonymous No. 16438685

>>16438601
This is an image board retard

Anonymous No. 16438723

>>16437585
kerbals are sovlfvl

Anonymous No. 16438731

>>16437819
Re-entry is a non issue, anyone going to space on Starship doesn't want to come back to Earth.

Anonymous No. 16438820

>>16438685
faggot

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Anonymous No. 16438872

>>16437815
>rebbit says it's a problem so it must be true

Anonymous No. 16438874

>>16437890
>>16438011
I think it's this one. Online title is different though:
https://archive.md/gObt6
There's also this one about Starlink:
https://archive.md/BwTux

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Anonymous No. 16438876

>>16438874
And this one singing the praises of starship vs oldspace
https://archive.md/rHqog

Anonymous No. 16438878

>>16437585
>real-sized astronauts instead of those green bean things you all call kerbals
Kerbals are more realistic for space travel. Humans will have to be Kerbalized in order to truly be at home in space.

Anonymous No. 16438879

>>16437819
>there is already normalization of deviance going on with the flap hinge burnthrough being seen as 'safe enough to survive'
I don't see it that way. No one is planning to leave it like that. They're just marvelling that a spaceship survived any degree of burnthrough.

Anonymous No. 16438881

>>16437815
Permanent magnets in key locations to keep the plasma away.

Anonymous No. 16438882

>>16437682
people will try to assassinate him

Anonymous No. 16438885

>>16437884
"Human rated" refers to launch and landing. HLS will take on crew in orbit. Don't be a little word weasel shit about it.
But I still think it will get crew rated eventually after it has had enough launches to be considered reliable enough.

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>>16438300

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>>16438876
Pretty damning towards SLS