Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:01:17 UTC No. 16432432

>there are now 4 sfg in the catalog at once
huh

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:02:09 UTC No. 16432433

>makes new thread about a probe that won't be there for years instead of the hot news of the week

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:03:23 UTC No. 16432435

>>16432432
Image limit staging, quit your bitching its always been legitimate
>>16432433
Literally the last two threads have been IFT-5 related. If you want a whole week of IFT-5 only OPs just say the word.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:05:19 UTC No. 16432436

>>16432432
That plus 1000+ reply launch thread. It's indeed been an event.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:06:01 UTC No. 16432437

>>16432432
We just witnessed history being made. It's to be expected.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:06:23 UTC No. 16432438

Two seater MMU?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:11:41 UTC No. 16432443

spacex is going to need alot more launch pads soon

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:12:45 UTC No. 16432446

Did you guys buy your patches?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:12:55 UTC No. 16432447

>>16432435
He is right, this whole week should be either OFT-5 or Europa Clipper

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:13:56 UTC No. 16432450

>>16432446
Fuck off troon

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:14:07 UTC No. 16432451

>>16432446
and the shirt

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:15:46 UTC No. 16432454

>>16432446
things i will spend money on
>kpop
>anime
>video games

things i will never spend money on
>youtube donations
>space *merch*

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:19:44 UTC No. 16432459

Is it safe to assume the FAA is going to play nice from here on out?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:21:52 UTC No. 16432463

>>16432459
no

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:24:41 UTC No. 16432467

Nope,

Not getting out of this chair.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:28:23 UTC No. 16432470

>>16432459
no lol

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:29:35 UTC No. 16432472

I've reached out to the moderation team, hopefully they come and do something about your reckless faggot staging when they wake up

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:29:36 UTC No. 16432473

>>16432459
well they did get told
this is from SpaceXs blanket starship launch license

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:30:08 UTC No. 16432474

>>16432467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF0MsE0miXA
reminder that Courage's parents were sent into space :(

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:30:19 UTC No. 16432476

>>16432463
At least we'll have Pete on standby

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:31:27 UTC No. 16432478

>>16432435
it has never been legitimate lol

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:31:41 UTC No. 16432479

>>16432432
gee /sfg/ how come hiro lets you have FOUR threads?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:32:41 UTC No. 16432482

>>16432459
maybe. i feel like biden-harris are trying to lure people over. we see swing states like michigan and georgia leaning towards voting for trump. and now we have things THAAD going to defend israel and kamala going on joe rogan. i could see the FAA being told to give spacex leeway until the election is over. if kamala wins then the clamp down will begin in earnest. if trump wins then the leeway will continue. either way, october could be safe for spacex.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:33:51 UTC No. 16432483

>>16432443
It's honestly sad that the gov is giving tax payer money to a private space company instead of just giving it to NASA to accomplish everything that SpaceX is.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:37:25 UTC No. 16432487

>>16432483
NASA hasn't accomplished squat in 30 years
would be a waste of money
nothing but dried up old space

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:40:30 UTC No. 16432490

will nasa even be around in 30 years?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:41:20 UTC No. 16432491

>>16432446
Yes!
>>16432454
official spacex merch is based tho

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:44:24 UTC No. 16432493

>>16432490
Of course. NASA will be performing ACTUAL science while SpaceX tries to turn a profit on the back of taxpayers.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:00:22 UTC No. 16432496

We're doin anal tonight!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:06:58 UTC No. 16432500

>>16432490
if so hopefully just doing like 1 probe to an outer planet per decade plus 1 Hubble/JWST tier scope launch per and just enough budget to cover both

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:12:17 UTC No. 16432505

>>16432446
I got two different shirts. The torch seemed tempting, but I don't have any use for it.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:17:33 UTC No. 16432509

>>16432482
what does kamala have against spacex? other than elon supporting trump.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:18:00 UTC No. 16432510

>>16432505
I got the spacex laser etch stainless steel wall art. pricey but so fuckin cool

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:25:06 UTC No. 16432511

So how much Δv will a fully refueled vacuum-spec'd Starship in LEO have?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:32:24 UTC No. 16432516

>>16432511
Not enough

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:34:06 UTC No. 16432520

>>16432511
enough for Mars

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:39:07 UTC No. 16432523

How is starship going to store cryogenic fuel for the trip to Mars long term?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:41:30 UTC No. 16432524

>>16432511
depends on how much payload it has

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:43:25 UTC No. 16432526

>>16432523
Active refrigeration with solar power and radiators. LOX and LCH4 aren't LH2, they're easy enough to keep chilled and contained.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:51:37 UTC No. 16432533

SPEHS

>BFR WAS A BETTER NAME AND I'M TIRED OF PRETENDING IT'S NOT.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:52:25 UTC No. 16432535

>>16432533
frfr no cap

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:10:13 UTC No. 16432548

>>16432535
Ong blud spittin fax

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:18:15 UTC No. 16432557

Now that the dust has settled, when will IFT-5 be considered a failure?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:19:04 UTC No. 16432558

>>16432557
2 days ago when it exploded in the Indian ocean lol

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:23:05 UTC No. 16432562

>>16432557
It certainly didn't cure cancer

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:24:37 UTC No. 16432563

>>16432557
It's your job to proves that it wasn't,and if I don't like your answer you lose, back to square zero

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:28:47 UTC No. 16432566

Hawk Tuah on #DearMoon?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:34:03 UTC No. 16432569

Hack tuah

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:42:04 UTC No. 16432571

>>16432264
Are you American?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:45:13 UTC No. 16432573

Will we ever get a model kit of Starship?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:56:18 UTC No. 16432581

>>16432563
See >>16432558

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:59:26 UTC No. 16432584

>>16432573
Just get a cardboard mailing tube and paint it silver. That's it.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:24:29 UTC No. 16432618

reminder we're entering a golden age of space warfare

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:27:02 UTC No. 16432620

>>16432459
I think the FAA (Dems by proxy) gave IFT-5 the approval last minute just so the media could have a field day on Musk when the booster would eventually miss the tower and explode. But everything went better than even SpaceX expected and it gave Musk another popularity boost, which is insanely funny

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:28:35 UTC No. 16432621

>>16432566
>kit
Hot

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:29:13 UTC No. 16432623

>>16432618
L U N A B U R N S
U
N
A
B
U
R
N
S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bct3MwkxE0Y

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:30:03 UTC No. 16432625

Anyone have the wrbm for the booster onboard view of the catch?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:37:04 UTC No. 16432632

>>16432625
>>16432046

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:40:40 UTC No. 16432639

More Starlink

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:44:30 UTC No. 16432643

>https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1846122296508875258
More Starlink

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:48:13 UTC No. 16432645

>>16432432

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:48:52 UTC No. 16432646

>>16432632
I just can't get enough of how fucking stupid all of this sounds and looks but yet it works
>lmao let's catch it on chopsticks on a big ass tower and hope it just doesn't strike it at Mack 4
>Also it's just standing on two 17cm brackets
>Yeah it's steered by a bunch of shaky grids too
I love it so much

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:01:00 UTC No. 16432649

>>16432490

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:04:40 UTC No. 16432654

how did they get away with it?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:05:14 UTC No. 16432655

lol, one retard is having a meltdown because stonetoss reposted his video about thunderfoot

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:09:04 UTC No. 16432656

>>16432432
newfags, crossboarders, and the retards that enable them in the m*d "team"
people not only don't lurk, they actively view the idea with distaste as if they're some kind of fucking crusader bringing the glorious culture of threads being bumped off after limit within a day instead of weeks or months, spamming their faggot fucking images from whatever hellscape social media they come from, off topic garbage, and complete lack of knowledge
They take pride in asking the same question that's been asked (and answered by equally retarded anons) each thread, several times a thread
I vote we simply execute newfags

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:17:03 UTC No. 16432661

>>16432645
Is anyone even posting in the other 3 threads?
Too lazy to follow them all.
The webcast of Europa Clipper was the shittiest one so far. What the fuck happened to NASA? Now they are a role model for... uneducated browns? NASA should STFU completely during the launch, remain totally silent and let SpaxeX handle it, until the deployment is complete, then hand it off to the payload owner.
Why the fuck were they using that antique data system on the most important Falcon Heavy ever? And then they kept talking about it, how they can only manage 20 kb/s, sometimes blacked out completely, then had to fire up some old analog tube amp they salvaged from a junk 70s CRT TV they found, and wait to acquire signal. NASA is really that bad? No telemetry and terrible views, when they simply could have used Starlink, until DSN was needed. The whole webcast left a shitty taste in my mouth, something here is NOT right.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:17:14 UTC No. 16432662

>Musk tweeting that they plan ship catch ("full stack reuse") in 2025
even if they only catch the first ship in the first half of 2026 that's pretty crazy. Even for Artemis I had assumed they'd just be mass producing expendable ships for filling the depot

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:25:31 UTC No. 16432667

4 SpaceX launches in 3 days, must be a record!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:28:50 UTC No. 16432671

Whatever happened to BLC1?
There's been a bunch of tabloid articles published recently about a new documentary that will claim it was a technosignature after all, but from what I've read the group that discovered it was convinced it was a nothingburger.
https://archive.is/TBCXX
Were there some new developments I missed, or is this just griftoids rehashing old news?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:29:11 UTC No. 16432672

>>16432433
Has thunderf00t coped about this yet?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:30:04 UTC No. 16432674

>>16432661
Other threads hit image limits so the only people posting there are only likely doing so accidentally. Thread splitting is dumb when it’s a pre-page 10 thing but image limit is more acceptable. /sfg/ is busy rn
Yes I agree. But the real redpill is that even SpaceX streams suck at their core. They have some troon who manually cycles through the different camera angles and the graphics department sucks. SpaceX just happens to have HD cameras and cool shit to look at. But the presentation could be way better.
Yes NASA broadcasts are fucking awful. No one understands the art of public engagement via a good presentation; all these gen x and millennial producers know is trinkets and buzzwords and playing it safe and there’s no soul to any of it

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:37:21 UTC No. 16432681

>>16432533
Yeah but normalfags took the double entendre/doom reference poorly.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:39:54 UTC No. 16432683

>>16432573
No, because Starship is a private rocket by a private entity with associated trademarks/copyrights. Shuttle, and every other rocket before was public domain.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:39:57 UTC No. 16432685

>>16432674
They had long lasting video glitches, lag, and huge problems on the sound board, shit video production all around, not to mention the bad cameras and even in space, using a clearly inferior data system when its a Starlink-equipped launch vehicle.. None of the speakers sounded prepared or qualified, except a few mission managers, the enthusiasm was clearly staged, and its was all incredibly dumbed down so much, I guess this was targeted to recent migrants, women, and blacks who believe math and science is racist and misogynistic. Its politically forced NASA suicide, I cant stand it anymore.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:40:14 UTC No. 16432686

>>16432681
it would have been better to call the whole stack “ITS” or “BFR,” and then refer to the booster as SH and the upper stage as SS.
I’m not a fan of both the full rocket being called “Starship” and the upper stage being called “Starship”. Having to specify which SS you are talking about is annoying

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:41:01 UTC No. 16432688

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:41:51 UTC No. 16432690

Mega Moon Rocket

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:49:49 UTC No. 16432693

So what is the best way to hold a large satellite at L1 long term while a plasma sail onboard is being impinged by the solar wind?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:50:47 UTC No. 16432695

>>16432672
>It's behind schedule
He's running out of material but due to the number of viewers with EDS, it doesn't really matter if he has anything rational to say or not.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:52:27 UTC No. 16432697

>>16432693
>L1
between which two bodies?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:54:22 UTC No. 16432699

https://www.shipbyairship.com
Talked to an anon here about this recently
>No passengers so no Hindenburg panic
>New materials better at minimizing H leaks
>Hydrogen easy to make from water+electricity, even in transit

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:56:43 UTC No. 16432700

>>16432699
Also can blimps work on mars?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:03:14 UTC No. 16432706

>>16432697
Mars-Sun or Venus-Sun

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:14:05 UTC No. 16432710

>>16432573
Estes has a flyable Falcon 9, so a Starship likely will be available at some point. Probably will have to wait for the design to be more stable. They've long sold multistage model rockets so a version with the booster is also likely. Parachute return instead of powered landing is almost guaranteed.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:17:50 UTC No. 16432713

>>16432620
Problem for them is that they keep drinking their own Kool-Aid and truly believe the consensus inside their bubble can determine reality. Just look at Phil Mason and his "Debris field guaranteed" video. He was sure everything would go to shit because he has spent the last five years convincing himself of a narrative based on wishes instead of reality.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:27:36 UTC No. 16432716

>>16432336
not even NASA PPO has this opinion
if this retard knew anything about them he'd know they very much want to send people there within 20 years to study the effects for science

we can do both, pretending otherwise is false choice dichotomy

>>16432435
nobody fucking cares about the image limit
stop posting twitter screencaps and pepe ffs

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:29:32 UTC No. 16432719

>>16432716
Just stop talking about it like a retard. It's obvious the last morons just spammed for funni.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:31:30 UTC No. 16432720

Maybe kyplanet isn't as cringe as I thought...

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:32:43 UTC No. 16432723

>>16432720
bro do you have a parasocial relationship with this guy or something?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:45:44 UTC No. 16432729

>>16432671
It was a technosignature but it just turned out to be a boring early-industrial civilisation, pretty pathetic.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:46:45 UTC No. 16432732

>>16432533
I preferred ITS best of all
>Interplanetary
>Transfer
>Ship
It's perfect

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:48:12 UTC No. 16432733

>>16432723
Just saw it while looking through eager space's (who I do have a parasocial relationship with) replies.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:49:00 UTC No. 16432735

>>16432699
wtf are those little balls on the back?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:50:24 UTC No. 16432737

>>16432699
based

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:51:02 UTC No. 16432738

>>16432720
How is point 2 and 4 wrong?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:54:58 UTC No. 16432741

>>16432738
point 2 is wrong, starship has only been in development for like 6 or 7 years and is already test launching.
4 is right but like it's really stupid cause it'll just disappear when starship is fully reusable.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:56:27 UTC No. 16432743

>>16432661
A certain previous president made outreach to "browns" a top priority for NASA and it seems to have accomplished that goal.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:58:26 UTC No. 16432745

>>16432743
Yeah, and it also accomplished goal 2, have a complete user base of fags on sci

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:59:21 UTC No. 16432746

>>16432643

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:01:17 UTC No. 16432749

>>16432700
Since everyone else ignored you,
The Martian atmosphere is primarily composed of carbon dioxide (around 95%), with smaller amounts of nitrogen (around 2.7%) and argon (around 1.6%). The atmospheric pressure on Mars is approximately 610 Pascals (Pa), which is significantly lower than Earth's, representing less than 1% of Earth's sea-level pressure.
For a blimp to work, it must be lighter than the surrounding atmosphere. You can do it with the lightest gasses H2 and He, and heat, but the buoyant force and lifting power is going to be very small, even with a huge and very thin, light balloon. So to answer your question, yes, but kinda not practical. Not enough atmosphere to lift mass efficiently.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:02:54 UTC No. 16432750

>>16432745
And to be fair, that same president is the one who signed the law (Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act of 2015) opening up commercial space flight as we know it now.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:04:10 UTC No. 16432752

>>16432746
Not too bad. Could see that as corporate wallpaper.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:06:44 UTC No. 16432755

>>16432750
Started by Bush, as before 2004 NASA was keeping private spaceflight effectively illegal, and also began restricting the FAA regulation overreach that would put into a chokehold any private efforts

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:07:44 UTC No. 16432756

I would love to know how reusable raptor actually is.
Also ICEchads vVINDICATED. Looks like SpaceX improved the ICE filtration in the tanks, and guess what??... IT WORKED

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:08:58 UTC No. 16432757

>>16432426
Is Europa clipper still flying witha lander, or was that canned?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:10:02 UTC No. 16432758

>>16432756
there's still a mass and reuse turnaround time penalty, as the water ice will melt and end up as a liquid that won't vent out like everything else in the tank

>>16432757
clipper was never going to have a lander, but is supposed to be scouting out landing locations for a future mission (probably not landing before we're all living in retirement homes)

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:10:11 UTC No. 16432759

>>16432735
Propellers is my guess. For attitude control.
pic unrelated from Mars Perserverance

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:11:21 UTC No. 16432761

>>16432758
>clipper was never going to have a lander
SHIT! its over.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:11:40 UTC No. 16432762

>>16432490
Depends on whether or not they fill their ranks with former SpaceX.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:12:38 UTC No. 16432764

>>16432758
i have no idea how they propose to drain the tanks. getting the insides of your engines wet seems like recepie for steam explosions

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:12:48 UTC No. 16432765

>>16432358
>>16432753
>>16432754

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:13:53 UTC No. 16432766

>>16432765
>muh jerbs
People on mars are not gonna be short on jobs.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:14:29 UTC No. 16432768

>>16432764
ULA sniper on retainer

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:15:48 UTC No. 16432769

>>16432511
Around ~8300m/s with a 100mt payload on board. Which would be able to get you to a direct transfer to Saturn. This with all the landing gear and heat shield.

If you want to make some deep space starship with no landing gear, sea level raptors nor a heat shield you would reach perhaps reach 9000m/s for a 100mt payload which could just barely make you able to launch into a direct transfer to Neptune under an ideal launch window.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:18:11 UTC No. 16432773

>>16432758
>>16432764
What's wrong with having a small drain at the lowest point of the tank (or 3 symmetrically)?
Pump in some hot water, wait 5 minutes, pull the plug, water washes away into the marshes. The FAA, FWS, EPA and SaveRGV cry out as one and are silenced. Close the drain, purge it with inert gas and retank.
Yeah it adds 5 minutes to the tanking operation, big deal. Heat exchanger probably still better.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:21:03 UTC No. 16432776

>>16432766
i worry that lots of people who have the money to go to mars will be ones that dont want to work, they just want to live a lavish semi-adventurous lifestyle while expecting everyone else to do the work.
>have money
>think mars is cool
>go to mars
>expect to be a youtuber while raising a garden and going hiking
>collect easy money and have fun

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:21:52 UTC No. 16432778

>>16432765
>people smart enough to find and post in this thread complaining about 14 fully reusuable starship launches being "too many" or "a waste" for a single fully loaded starship to mars low orbit
you guys still don't get it

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:28:02 UTC No. 16432784

>>16432773
how do you get all the water to boil away after the inside of the tank has been filled with ice and then boiling water? or do you just tolerate water pollution in the tanks every flight?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:28:48 UTC No. 16432785

>>16432773
now guarantee that plug can be built into a ring without compromising structural or tank stability during all stages of flight

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:30:34 UTC No. 16432788

>>16432690
What would have been an actually good name for SLS?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:30:49 UTC No. 16432789

>>16432776
people with money not wanting to do something is the primary job creator

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:30:54 UTC No. 16432790

Latest Elon tweet:

> "outer engine nozzles are a little warped from high heating & strong aero forces"

LMAO a little warped. And that has happened to SHs nozzles. Imagine the structural damage in the way more charred and wind-crushed Starship steel body.

Reusefags, its not looking good.

Maybe that's why they went with steel, to scrap the vessel after maybe 2 or 3 flights with luck.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:32:24 UTC No. 16432794

>>16432784
You don't boil anything, the hot water just melts the ice in a hurry so you don't wait around. All of it then drains under gravity out of the rocket onto the ground when you open a hole in the container it's in.
>>16432785
There are 66 holes in the bottom of the tank already, each with a big ass valve. And none of them compromise the tank structurally. I promise you three more holes are going to be perfectly fine.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:32:36 UTC No. 16432795

>>16432789
so you're saying they'll bring servants and workers with them?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:32:43 UTC No. 16432796

Any explanation as for why the middle engine circle of SuperHeavy was spewing fire? Was that from the side fire at the bottom?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:37:42 UTC No. 16432800

>>16432790
Nozzles are far more vulnerable though. The fact that only.the outermost engines got warped when there was no cooldown system used, something they already have, says a lot.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:38:01 UTC No. 16432801

>>16432788
Energia

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:38:08 UTC No. 16432802

>>16432743
I remember this kid, he disassembled an alarm clock and put it in a pencil case, then kept setting it off in class waiting for a teacher to get him in trouble over it. His family got so much free shit before skipping the country, bad times.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:38:12 UTC No. 16432803

>>16432794
>66 holes
are you retarded or pretending to be retarded?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:40:48 UTC No. 16432807

>>16432803
no but you might be

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:46:54 UTC No. 16432809

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846147246124859619
>Hopefully early next year, we will catch the ship too

>early next year for ship catch
do any ships even have catch points?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:48:06 UTC No. 16432811

>>16432809
The Block 2 ship, maybe

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:51:51 UTC No. 16432812

When does SpaceX start offering their own space camp and maybe even commission a space camp movie like happened in the 1980s? Those inspired two generations of children to become interested in aerospace and related STEM careers.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:52:57 UTC No. 16432814

>>16432812

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:54:41 UTC No. 16432816

>>16432688
Vgh...

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:56:09 UTC No. 16432817

>>16432812
they are
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-job-listing-new-ad-astra-school-texas-ranch-2024-3

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:56:14 UTC No. 16432818

>>16432812
They should be training the first batch of permanent Martians now, while they're young.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:57:32 UTC No. 16432820

>>16432720
He's recently realized what Starship actually is (some talking points make me think he just read handmer's blog) but he's unable to reconcile it with his EDS. His last video was a disjointed incomprehensible mess. He said people on Mars 2050 at the soonest

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:00:14 UTC No. 16432822

We Launched bros
now is the time to rebuild

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:00:22 UTC No. 16432823

BREAKING: Argentina offers to host SpaceX launches
https://x.com/innovacionar/status/1845861632418738570

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:01:19 UTC No. 16432824

>>16432820
I'm sad he deleted that video before I got to see it.
Can you give me a quick rundown of what he said?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:01:58 UTC No. 16432827

>>16432823
massive ITAR issues with that
I don't see SpaceX launches moving from the US anytime soon

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:03:15 UTC No. 16432829

>>16432776
Commodities on Mars will be so expensive that it basically won't be possible to transfer Earth wealth in a meaningful way after the ticket purchase. Labor shortage will drive up labor cost and ship times + scarcity will drive up commodities. For a while Martians will be living paycheck to paycheck from a factory job that pays them over a million a year. If a normal guy's yearly salary is a million bucks, what is your million made on Earth really worth?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:03:46 UTC No. 16432830

>>16432823
Shitty launch location regardless

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:05:38 UTC No. 16432832

>>16432827
Plus Argentina swings even more wildly to the left and to the right than the US does. A decade from now they'll have a president that wants to nationalize everything and put the economy on a five year centralized plan.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:05:40 UTC No. 16432833

>>16432830
Great for polar

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:05:48 UTC No. 16432834

>>16432830
I, for one, hope nerdship fails

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:06:10 UTC No. 16432836

>>16432827
maybe australia could do starship launches if they really want to do 100s a year, they're already under a special umbrella with the AUKUS agreement

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:06:11 UTC No. 16432837

>>16432829
>won't be possible to transfer Earth wealth in a meaningful way
Pool whatever you have left with others to buy a starship and get a % of all incoming cargo that comes on it. If that wasn't immediately obvious to you then you were raised poor

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:06:17 UTC No. 16432838

>>16432817
>paywalled

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:07:29 UTC No. 16432840

>>16432620
FAA was forced to use the language "expediate it immediately" in their requests because SpaceX saw through their political nonsense and is sueing them. Then there are dozen or more congressmen going after FAA because of their delays. Typically the agency was supposed to be neutral but with them acting bit political and out of line, its being targetted

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:07:59 UTC No. 16432842

>>16432833
Already got that covered.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:08:31 UTC No. 16432843

>>16432838
https://archive.is/muENb
You are feeble

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:09:38 UTC No. 16432846

>>16432824
Didn't realize he deleted it. He might've done so from my comment lmao. Sometimes browsing this place all day makes me forget normal discourse elsewhere else lacks some of the intensity I'm used to.
Anyway he basically talks about how great Starship is, he's totally in the Starship camp now. However he thinks the moon should be first, he believes in space mining, he believes the only reason to go to a different body is to mine it for Earth, he doesn't think Starship is enough for a manned trip to Mars, and he thinks Elon Musk is a mascot that doesn't do anything at Starbase. I left a long timestamped comment explaining this to him. I'm not sure why people think Elon needs to be a "good person" to be a good engineer. Some people just can't reconcile it.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:10:30 UTC No. 16432848

Remember how hard they were rushing to finish that parking garage mural? They didn’t show it anywhere in the flight 5 livestream.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:12:03 UTC No. 16432850

>>16432842
And a redundant proposal further north

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:13:21 UTC No. 16432851

>>16432846
>Elon needs to be a "good person" to be a good engineer
>"good person"
Yeah they just want him to buy into the WEF death cult. Support Hamas, support castration ideology, support degrowth, support non-citizen voting rights to US election, support illegal immigration, etc etc.

Thats their code word.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:13:34 UTC No. 16432852

>>16432837
Cargo starships will not make a return trip, maybe ever. Starships on Earth are cheap, energy and water on Mars less so. They're also made of valuable metals

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:14:03 UTC No. 16432854

>>16432846
Intersectionality requires complete ideological purity in all things.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:16:07 UTC No. 16432856

>>16432852
Yup poverty mindset

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:16:11 UTC No. 16432857

>>16432846
It really is shocking the amount of people who think those that disagree with them politically are incompetent. I disagree enough with other very smart people to know they're generally uncorrelated.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:16:29 UTC No. 16432859

>>16432850
>After a year-long search, the Michigan Aerospace Manufacturers Association has announced the location of a new vertical-launch spaceport in the state.
>The Sterling Heights-based trade organization has identified a location just north of Marquette in the Upper Peninsula as the best site from which to launch rockets from launch pads. The location along the shores of Lake Superior will serve as a splash site in case of any problems during launches.
>Oscoda-Wurtsmith Airport, south of Alpena on the state’s east coast, already has been selected as the top candidate for rockets to launch from beneath airplane wings, otherwise known as horizontal launches.
We control the horizontal. We control the vertical. The Outer Limits (of Michigan).

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:18:48 UTC No. 16432860

>>16432856
You don't seem to understand basic economic principles

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:19:36 UTC No. 16432861

>>16432852
Starships are basically a whole base station unto themselves with redundant supplies for a complete habitat. It will have energy(solar+battery) + lifesupport + electronics + storage + etc. Each Starship could theoretically support a small village of Mars colonist as a starter/base station. So populate these Starship across a couple sq km and connect them all together for a connected Starship colony. Then use a tunneling machine to connect the various mini villages/bases together for fast transport access/shared life support resources (electricity grid/heating/water pipes/gas pipes/etc).

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:22:11 UTC No. 16432865

>>16432861
>>16432860
retard.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:22:21 UTC No. 16432866

>>16432861
I was talking about the cargo ships specifically, just a metal tube full of pallets. They'll probably break them down for materials. Otherwise yeah I agree, it'll be a while before any residences are built on Mars. There will be several acres of factory before it makes sense to move out of your Starship

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:23:31 UTC No. 16432867

A Tour of the Lunar South Pole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnv9ZQ0wfaw&t

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:23:36 UTC No. 16432868

>>16432686
"I Can't wait for the next flight of SS V2"

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:23:41 UTC No. 16432869

>>16432865
elaborate your point or don't post

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:25:27 UTC No. 16432871

>>16432802
Yeah someone made a video showing the exact clock from amazon he used, broke it apart, and placed it in a suitcase.

Normies got fucking played. "Fuck having laws and boarders and shit!"

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:25:33 UTC No. 16432873

>>16432686
The should have called the stack STS (Space (exploration technologies corp.) Transport System

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:26:55 UTC No. 16432874

>>16432868
KEK

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:28:02 UTC No. 16432876

>>16432867
Based Kyplanet, love that channel!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:28:33 UTC No. 16432877

>>16432803
33 engines need both fuel and oxidizer, tourist.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:30:16 UTC No. 16432879

>>16432859
If anything ever launches off the UP again, I'll be there to watch. Last year a friend and I camped at pic related and set off a few model rockets there.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:31:08 UTC No. 16432881

>>16432877
bullshit from someone who knows nothing about what they are talking about. ice is only a problem in the OX TANK so there are only 33 HOLES

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:33:33 UTC No. 16432884

>nozzles bended
>big fire at the base of the booster, with middle engine ring leaking burning gas
Why is nobody discussing this? That booster is structurally done for many engines are not flyable again.
I bet this happened in IFT4 as well.

SH is not just an oversized F9, it's bigger mass creates bigger problems. The entire engine plate was glowing red during descent, that might be indicative of this thing reaching greater speeds due to inertia. I don'r remember any F9 base plate glowing red.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:38:25 UTC No. 16432892

>>16432884
Because we have no fucking idea how they'll deal with it, either if they'll change the re-entry profile or add mass to engine bells.
Also read the fucking thread.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:38:55 UTC No. 16432893

>>16432884
Because its fixed for Raptor 3 and the new versions of superheavy, newfag

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:39:45 UTC No. 16432894

>>16432884
>Why is nobody discussing this?
It might be no big deal. We haven't seen how raptor 3 would handle it. The goal of this flight was the tower catch, SpaceX just does things one at a time. They now have the flown booster, and can look in depth at what happened. That fact is what made F9 the best launcher ever built. They have shit to figure out but it's the type of thing they're good at figuring out

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:40:55 UTC No. 16432896

>>16432893
How does a better engine fix the engine plate glowing red?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:41:49 UTC No. 16432897

>>16432896
Active cooling by using plumbing

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:41:58 UTC No. 16432898

>>16432884
It's moot until we see Raptor 3s
The heat also clearly didn't stop it from landing, that speaks more to the robustness than some fire and glowing.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:43:32 UTC No. 16432900

>>16432896
Passive shielding vs active cooling

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:43:40 UTC No. 16432901

>>16432632
Thank you
>>16432646
It doesn’t sound dumb at all. Tbh landing legs seem way more stupid.
>lets make our retrieval mechanism dependent on unique hardware for every single rocket AND lets force it to deal with ground effect!
Nah i think a singular system that only requires the rocket to be in a point in space is the better option.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:43:57 UTC No. 16432902

>>16432896
New cooling system

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:46:09 UTC No. 16432905

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:49:47 UTC No. 16432908

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:51:40 UTC No. 16432910

>>16432884
>nozzles bending
thicker material or different trajectory to reduce aero loading. Not impossible to resolve
>big fire at base of booster
yeah venting gas through booster QD ignited by landing burn flame, fixable
>middle engine ring leaking burning gas
the job of an engine is literally to leak burning gas at hotter temperatures and higher pressures than a fire, it's fine
>engine plate glowing during descent
things get hot when you ram air at them at mach 5, the glow you were seeing was the engine heatshields do their job. Pic related shows the nozzles themselves as dark. R3 will probably do away with this phenomenon because they ditch heatshields for integrated cooling channels

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:53:08 UTC No. 16432912

>>16432905
My question is how do you anchor a dome into the ground without the air pressure blowing it off its foundations? Are they attached to super secure anchor bolts in the bedrock and the rest of the foundation buried under tons of brick/regotith?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:56:20 UTC No. 16432917

>>16432491
I'd get the mechazilla shirt if international shipping from anywhere but china wasn't so fucking expensive.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:56:50 UTC No. 16432918

>>16432897
>>16432900
That might fix the engine bending, but not the engine plate getting roasted.

They should remove the skirt entirely and let the air pass through instead of getting stuck in there.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:58:08 UTC No. 16432921

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:59:42 UTC No. 16432924

>>16432910
>the job of an engine is literally to leak burning gas at hotter temperatures and higher pressures than a fire, it's fine
It might be fine, but doesn't the burning gas mean that some engine pipes got broken?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:00:46 UTC No. 16432927

>>16432921
Some drawfag please make a SH neesama descending with the underskirt on fire.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:02:15 UTC No. 16432930

>>16432840
>>16432509
>>16432459
I honestly think it's just some oldspace assholes or whatever at the FAA holding things up, Biden and Harris probably didn't give a fuck either way so it was up to congress to sort them out.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:08:23 UTC No. 16432939

>>16432918
Like another anon said it really might not matter.
The aft section is the most complex section of the booster, it suffered through some very intense heating but executed its landing perfectly.
Super heavy isn't Falcon, it's stainless is much more robust under high temperatures as compared to the aluminum lithium alloy of F9

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:10:43 UTC No. 16432941

>>16432918
Cool. How many rocket engines have you designed up till now?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:14:34 UTC No. 16432945

>>16432912
regular ass pilings like we use for anchoring buildings on earth?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:14:48 UTC No. 16432946

>>16432939
>it suffered through some very intense heating but executed its landing perfectly.
Steel glowing red is steel being bent. Blacksmiths hot the steel until it's almost red before working with the hammer for a reason.

If the thermal protection is not enough and the engine plate takes this kind of structural damage then it might not be able to safely stand the full thrust of 33 raptors again in a second launch with all the fuel loaded.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:18:21 UTC No. 16432950

>>16432941
I don't need to. It is aerodynamic common sense. Compressed hypersonic air is not a good thing to retain. Just let it flow away.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:18:27 UTC No. 16432951

>>16432946
Not only is this a solvable issue. It’s not even an especially hard issue as these things go.
you’re a faggot doomer trying to cope with the fact that elon just proved superheavy reusability is viable.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:19:20 UTC No. 16432952

>>16432446
This is the one patch I would buy if they didn't ask 25 yuros to ship it to frogland.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:21:45 UTC No. 16432955

>>16432951
Did anyone ever doubt super heavy reusability? Spacex has been reflying boosters for years. Closest I heard was concerns about number of engines in comparison to N1.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:24:04 UTC No. 16432957

>>16432946
Stainless glows within its working temperature range and has double the temperatures resistance as carbon steel.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:29:59 UTC No. 16432964

Don't deadname the flights, they're not IFT anymore

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:36:13 UTC No. 16432970

>>16432964
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-5
>Starship's Fifth Flight Test
FT-5 it is.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:36:38 UTC No. 16432971

>>16432950
Noted. Oldspace could use someone like you

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:37:12 UTC No. 16432974

>>16432964
theyre flights and also integrated and tests, so they are integrated flight tests. IFT1/2/3 etc. is cooler than F1/2/3

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:40:07 UTC No. 16432977

>>16432950
>common sense
Fuck off retard

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:41:37 UTC No. 16432980

>>16432950
R3 boosters will not have a skirt nor heat shields.
There will we much less of a stagnation zone.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:48:11 UTC No. 16432986

>>16432977
he's just a little skeptical

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:53:57 UTC No. 16432990

The dry mass reduction from switching to raptor 3 will also reduce heating from re-entry. At least until they add more engines and stretch the booster.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:56:40 UTC No. 16432993

>>16432837
Wow, if anyone could do that and print money, what does that imply about the price of buying a Starship?

I refrain from commenting on the circumstances of your birth.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:58:35 UTC No. 16432994

>>16432884
stop reading spaceguy5's FUD

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:58:45 UTC No. 16432996

Stats on Europa Clipped. So, a cargo Starship can deliver a fully fueled Clipper Class probe to LEO -- probably with enough extra fuel to allow a fast transit without years of gravity assists.

Would be nice if NASA started to design probes reflecting that.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:00:28 UTC No. 16433001

>>16432912
Make it heavy.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:01:49 UTC No. 16433005

>>16432884

Those are old revs of the engines, so they were already scrap. Not for the reuse stream.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:02:09 UTC No. 16433006

>>16432950
>common sense
>rocket engine design
You don't even understand the meaning of the terms you're using.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:05:32 UTC No. 16433010

>>16432500
Here’s how you save NASA, turn everything NASA does into being the survey team for humanity’s reach for the stars.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:10:00 UTC No. 16433013

>>16432996
B-But Bruno-kun said Starship was USELESS past LEO!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:11:56 UTC No. 16433017

>>16432996
If starship is actually below $100/kg you could just design your satellites with some 80/20 channelled aluminum, a backpacking phone charger solar panel, and a smartphone

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:13:17 UTC No. 16433021

>>16432964
I still call it OFT on here because it makes one anon get really mad

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:14:48 UTC No. 16433022

>>16432662
Will catching Ship entail any further challenges compared to catching Booster?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:16:09 UTC No. 16433023

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:17:15 UTC No. 16433026

>>16433021
I still think of the ships as "SN(number)"

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:17:21 UTC No. 16433027

>>16433013
>>16432996
>fast transit
Doubt it.
It takes like 24km/s to reach Europe directly.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:20:20 UTC No. 16433029

>>16432996
Now imagine if you put one of those highly efficiant stages Impulse Space Propulsion are building like Helios, built exactly for these kinds of missions, on top of that.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:23:41 UTC No. 16433035

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:24:19 UTC No. 16433037

>>16432951
>you’re a faggot doomer trying to cope with the fact that elon just proved superheavy reusability is viable.
Chill out with the teeth grinding, muskerite fag. I just advocate for a less retarded design.
Nobody ever doubted booster recoverability, it was pretty much taken for granted since f9.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:24:39 UTC No. 16433038

>>16433035
Incredible!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:27:03 UTC No. 16433040

>>16433027
You can remove like 1/3 of that if you time it well with the gravitational assists from the other jovian moons. Will take a little while longer though.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:27:56 UTC No. 16433042

https://x.com/rfa_space/status/1845808087594365287

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:28:29 UTC No. 16433046

>>16433035
good luck reusing this empty steel garbage can.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:29:56 UTC No. 16433049

>>16432868
oh jew

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:31:33 UTC No. 16433051

>>16433046
Why not? They can have it launching again in a jiffy.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:33:57 UTC No. 16433056

>>16433037
>Nobody ever doubted booster recoverability

There it is.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:34:17 UTC No. 16433058

>>16433042
truth nuke

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:37:22 UTC No. 16433059

>>16433017
Makes me wonder, will universities start sending probes around the solar system? Starship puts activities within the budgets of way more science organizations than NASA. I wonder if a venusian steel balloon hopper built and launched by MIT would finally redirect NASA to a Starship based approach

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:37:23 UTC No. 16433060

>>16433042
it's over, I can't wait to become an american one day

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:38:36 UTC No. 16433062

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1846211353750524089

Booster being lifted now to be transported back

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:39:36 UTC No. 16433063

>>16433037
>Nobody ever doubted booster recoverability, it was pretty much taken for granted since f9.
no it wasn’t chopstick catch was an impossibility right up until the moment it happened. Before that it was raptor reliability and before that it was belly flop and before that it was flying water towers ever amounting to anything.
At this point all the “can it be done” challenges are behind them. It’s just a question of ironing put the kinks.
Also taking recovery for granted because falcon can do it but not taking refurbishment for granted despite the fact that falcon does it is retarded and you’re clearly grasping at straws.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:39:44 UTC No. 16433064

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:40:44 UTC No. 16433066

>>16433059
>>16433017
the sat would need some form of propulsion though unless its a cubesat for leo. the propulsion would cost a cool 100k at least.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:41:38 UTC No. 16433067

>>16433035
E2E starship is going to be a crazy ass ride

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:41:56 UTC No. 16433068

>>16433064
so elon is a glorified tard wrangler?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:42:47 UTC No. 16433070

>>16433066
That's so little money

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:44:48 UTC No. 16433072

>>16433066
/sfg/ could come up with a hall effect thruster for less than that

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:46:30 UTC No. 16433073

>>16432993
You seem dimwitted so it's good you refrained. Money is the most worthless of assets to own after all.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:48:48 UTC No. 16433074

>>16433068
Tard speaker but also redpilled after growing up in SA

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:52:09 UTC No. 16433076

>>16433068
No, that post is too cynical. He does know how to utilize engineers though. Non-engineer management can throttle your engineering talent like nothing else. SpaceX is engineers all the way up, Boeing by comparison is MBAs all the way down

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:53:20 UTC No. 16433077

>>16433074
>redpilled after growing up in SA
The opposite. He basically escaped the country to avoid being drafted. It took a lot to get him to the current point

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:53:55 UTC No. 16433079

>>16433067
>E2E starship

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:54:33 UTC No. 16433080

>>16433063
Booster reusability is doable, but not in its current state. We also might see less flights per unit compared with f9 due to the greater structural loads.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:55:56 UTC No. 16433083

>>16433070
thats an 'at least' estimate which happens if kick stage companies like impulse are very sucessful.
it will be a huge gamechanger allowing random ecelebs to launch a plaque of their twitch subs to the moon, but a university will have to do it as a once in a generation type thing unless they get big donations.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:56:03 UTC No. 16433084

>presidental campaigns caring about spacex
if you think this, you should take your meds

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:56:41 UTC No. 16433085

>>16433042
This is why I root for RFA.
I hope they make it.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:56:55 UTC No. 16433086

>>16433084
Your cunt is going to lose and we are going to Mars.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:57:18 UTC No. 16433087

>>16433086
I don't have a cunt.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:58:04 UTC No. 16433088

>>16433080
fuck off ky(ke)planet, i know its you.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:58:56 UTC No. 16433089

>>16433064
As a formally diagnosed autistic engineer, I can confirm this is mostly true, though the failure part isn't so much about fear of failure itself but about the consequences from the outside such as being fired or having some MBA bro, former frat boy screaming at us all day.
Not sure what Musk is doing to be able to alleviate those fears but my guess is he speaks in our own language saying that failure is expected sometimes and can be a good thing if we learn something from it that puts us closer to the path to success. That kind of thing would go a long way to getting us to loosen up and focus on the tasks at hand instead of trying to manage the consequences from above if something doesn't go right on the first attempt. Using a term like RUD (Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly) to put a humorous spin on an explosion is one way of showing he's looking for convergence to the right path rather than expecting everything to go right the first time.
>>16433068
Weaponized autism is quite the valuable resource if you know how to weld it correctly.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:59:40 UTC No. 16433090

>>16433072
Lets make a satellite and put it into orbit.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:59:58 UTC No. 16433091

>>16433089
>weld it correctly.
apt typo

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:00:01 UTC No. 16433092

>>16433085
the guy leading rfa is an elon wannabee, very unsettling.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:01:51 UTC No. 16433095

>>16433092
Acting autistic is inherently a kraut trait

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:04:13 UTC No. 16433098

>>16433086
hello, based department?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:06:15 UTC No. 16433100

>>16433084
Why wouldn't a President want to tie a success in spaceflight to their campaign? It's a pretty easy win, all you have to do is loudly 'support' a thing and the people eat it up.
Which begs the question why only one campaign is bothering to try?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:06:28 UTC No. 16433101

>>16433092
To be a musk wanna be you need few things

1) understanding of fundamentals (finances/physics/regulations)
2) high pain threshold
3) high stakes in their work
4) high courage
5) FINDS A WAY
6) never takes no for an answer (unless it violates fundamentals)

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:10:49 UTC No. 16433104

>>16433027

Show math. This a Europa flyby series or orbit, not a landing. There used to be a dv calculator online, but can't find it with new "AI Enhanced" Google.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:13:36 UTC No. 16433107

>>16433100
the electorate does not give a shit about space. for republicans there is a vague tangential national pride aspect which they care about. thats why they were shuttle shills then oldspace shills. dems dont even care about the national pride aspect, and they view human spaceflight as a negative since many dont think humans have a right to colonize the stars.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:14:45 UTC No. 16433110

>>16433027
There’s no way Europe takes that much dv I got there just the other month on an a380

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:15:30 UTC No. 16433112

>>16433107
Trump talked about the booster catch at a rally. He's been talking about boots on Mars since 2016 and now that he's friends with Elon he's personally interested in seeing Starship succeed.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:15:59 UTC No. 16433113

>>16433110
did you find any intelligent lifeform there?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:16:59 UTC No. 16433114

>>16433107
>the electorate does not give a shit about space
Then let's change that. It can be done, it must be done. If tens of millions of people can be made to care about a children's yard-game played by millionaires (broadcast to sell ad-space), then they can be made to care about anything.
>many don't think humans have a right to colonize the stars.
They must be reeducated, forcibly if necessary.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:17:32 UTC No. 16433116

>>16433113
No I just went to measure how much ice there was and the depths of some of their water.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:19:56 UTC No. 16433119

>>16433100
SpaceX flying around water towers is not gonna cut it. Manned moon landings might actually score points, but it's too far for anybody to care about (yet).

Yes, the party in charge will obviously affect spaceflight, with reps being pro-spaceflight and dems being pro-regulation. But none of that has any effect on the election or the campaigning at all. Schizos in this thread are saying that Biden-Harris are in cahoots with FAA, as if it was a relevant issue to them.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:22:34 UTC No. 16433123

>>16433119
>>Schizos in this thread are saying that Biden-Harris are in cahoots with FAA
>schizos
Everybody point and laugh

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:24:22 UTC No. 16433125

>>16433113
NTA but when I went there somehow a bunch of african colonists got there first.
I was pretty pissed.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:26:13 UTC No. 16433127

so how long does it take now between first starting fuelling up, and launch?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:27:17 UTC No. 16433128

>>16433127
about 2 hours

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:29:37 UTC No. 16433131

>>16433128
it’s over. they’ll never get the flight rate above 12 per day per launch pad

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:30:45 UTC No. 16433132

ESA replied to me on YouTube.

I was kind of a dick and they replied to me in a polite manner and now I feel bad.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:31:32 UTC No. 16433133

>>16433131
only 12 per day? felon husk promised 24, what a fraud, jail him already
t. th00nderfag

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:31:40 UTC No. 16433134

>>16433131
>12 per day
>per launch pad
wasn't even close to happening this decade

check again mid 2030s

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:31:58 UTC No. 16433135

>>16433132
what did you write?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:32:14 UTC No. 16433136

>>16433132
What did they/them say?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:32:38 UTC No. 16433137

>>16433128
decent, I heard that they upgraded the site massively some time ago so it's basically the same fuel time as an F9 despite being far larger

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:34:38 UTC No. 16433138

>>16433132
>Making fun of yuros
Compulsory

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:35:21 UTC No. 16433140

>>16433131
we're only on launch #5

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:39:07 UTC No. 16433141

Bent nozzles my ass.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:39:59 UTC No. 16433142

>>16433141
pi

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:40:30 UTC No. 16433143

>>16433141
Look at the ones in the back.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:40:53 UTC No. 16433144

>>16433100
Because the left hates Musk. He was their Space Jesus until
He opposed COVID restrictions
Moved Telsa out of California to Texas
Moved his own personal residence from California to Texas
Started appearing on the Chud Rogan podcast
Joined President Trump's industry advisory board
And his biggest crime of all: he purchased Twitter, the most effective propaganda arm of the globalists, and allowed it to be used against the left (and the right but they don't care about that part)
All of this is why he's seen as the enemy of the left. No Democrat wants to upset their base by being associated with a traitor against the one true ideology.
Beyond that leftist stuff, there's also many in industry that are mad at him for creating a competitor in space flight and automobiles. He's upset the gravy trains they had going on. Many wealthy people have lost huge amounts of money shorting Tesla, which ended up going up in value, causing them to lose covering those shorts. But they keep trying to get their money back by doubling down on more shorts and getting fucked each time. They need the Musk empire to fail so they can undo their mistakes going up against him.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:42:14 UTC No. 16433146

>>16432964
I'll keep using IFT until they start doing commercial/Artemis launches then I'll switch over to the falcon naming system
>Mission name
+
>5th flight of SH booster 25 etc...

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:43:28 UTC No. 16433147

>>16433141
I need that paint they're using for the engine numbers.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:44:18 UTC No. 16433148

>>16433144
The Tesla shorts are the funniest. The market has been such a spreadsheet racket for for the last fifty years that investors literally had no idea how to treat a company that actually makes something

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:45:07 UTC No. 16433149

>>16433144
>Many wealthy people have lost huge amounts of money shorting Tesla, which ended up going up in value, causing them to lose covering those shorts. But they keep trying to get their money back by doubling down on more shorts and getting fucked each time.
Reminder ESGhound is both a tesla shorter and nikola pumper.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:45:31 UTC No. 16433150

>>16433119
>Schizos in this thread are saying that Biden-Harris are in cahoots with FAA, as if it was a relevant issue to them.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:52:00 UTC No. 16433156

>>16432483
NASA never had any business being in the launch business.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:53:42 UTC No. 16433159

>>16433156
They didn’t have much choice in the early days but they should have gotten out of it sooner.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:00:59 UTC No. 16433169

>>16433148
I enjoyed seeing Bill Gates publicly humiliated when Musk rejected his panhandling due to Gates shorting Tesla.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:01:19 UTC No. 16433171

>>16433149
>nikola
How did that ever get so far? You could find the founders other... endeavors (scams) with five minutes of research.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:02:25 UTC No. 16433172

>>16433112
the situation around trump is the best it could possibly be, its just a shame trump isnt a fresh candidate with two terms ahead. if he was then boots or the moon would definitely happen in his term.
trumps old boots on mars stuff was the same generic halfhearted oldspace shilling which has been happening sine bush senior. the point is to create contracts for boeing and friends to fulfill.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:04:27 UTC No. 16433177

>>16433143
imagine firing the one at the back right with its current semicircle shape. what could go wrong?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:05:39 UTC No. 16433178

>>16433177
Not only would nothing go wrong, it would very quickly revert to being the ideal shape.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:05:46 UTC No. 16433179

How is @spaceguy5 handling this?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:05:54 UTC No. 16433180

>>16433171
People like ESGhound who were convinced tesla was a scam and looking for anything they could put forth as an alternative.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:06:57 UTC No. 16433181

>>16433179
Seems to me to bitching about minor issues like "fire in the engine bay" and "flaps burning through".

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:08:37 UTC No. 16433185

>>16433171
How did a dog-walking startup get a third of a billion doing nothing? "Investors" with a fuckton of money to lose

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:10:05 UTC No. 16433187

>>16433172
You are a stupid nigger. Men to Mars in 2028 is possible now that the tower catch worked.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:13:24 UTC No. 16433191

>>16433187
deluded, but its thiss delusion which madespacex work in the first place so go with it.

Binkle at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:16:35 UTC No. 16433193

>>16433191
milk me, nerdship

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:29:38 UTC No. 16433204

>>16432426
How do they measure speed relative to the center of the earth? Just measure ground speed and then subtract the speed of the earth rotation or it is more involved than that?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:30:15 UTC No. 16433205

>>16433035
It's just that easy in rocketry

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:32:02 UTC No. 16433209

According to Berger, Blue Origin has double SpaceX employees, about 30k.

Holy Shit lmao

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:32:55 UTC No. 16433210

>>16433172
JD Vance will carry on the torch. Nothing to worry about.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:33:02 UTC No. 16433211

>>16433092
Germans can only prosper through LARP

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:33:08 UTC No. 16433212

>>16432557
what did it deliver to orbit? lol

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:36:56 UTC No. 16433215

>>16433212
hope

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:37:14 UTC No. 16433216

>>16433209
he was talking specifically about head count at the cape

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:37:30 UTC No. 16433217

>>16433209
Double the employees, four magnitudes less progress. Money well spent.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:38:27 UTC No. 16433219

Fun fact: looking at the map, Boca Chica is right at the border with Mexico and there doesn't seem to be any checkpoints or guards in that area. So it would be possible to sneak into the US along the beach and watch some launches and go back. Or stay.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:38:48 UTC No. 16433222

small nuclear reactors are back

>On Monday, Google announced an agreement with Kairos Power to purchase nuclear energy from multiple small modular reactors (SMRs), marking the first deal of its kind. The partnership aims to bring Kairos Power's initial SMR online by 2030, with additional reactor deployments planned through 2035. With the energy demands of AI growing, Google has not been alone in encouraging new development of alternative, no-emission power sources.
https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/10/google-and-kairos-sign-nuclear-reactor-deal-with-aim-to-power-ai/

looks like the dream of nuclear power for space colonies is saved

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:40:59 UTC No. 16433224

>>16432749
can starship simply float on venus atmosphere like balloon?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:43:10 UTC No. 16433225

>>16433224
Not the parts that won't cook it to death.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:43:33 UTC No. 16433226

>>16433209
Learn to read you disgusting illiterate low iq animal.
That is not what he said.
YWNGTS

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:44:14 UTC No. 16433227

>>16433219
oh yeah, I guess that would be the mouth of the rio grande. Hadn't even thought about that.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:49:01 UTC No. 16433229

>>16433227
Isn't it technically the anus of the Rio Grande?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:53:00 UTC No. 16433233

>>16433035
is this real thread

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:53:28 UTC No. 16433234

>>16433226
Delusion BO fanboy

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:01:41 UTC No. 16433239

>>16433229
That's a clever analogy, but it's not quite accurate.

While the mouth of a river is where it discharges its water, just as an anus is an exit point, there are some key differences:

Function: A river's mouth is where it releases water and sediment it has collected from its journey. An anus, on the other hand, is a biological opening primarily used for expelling waste products.

Process: Rivers typically flow downhill due to gravity, while the movement of waste through the digestive system is driven by muscular contractions.

So, while the terms might seem similar in terms of being exit points, their functions and processes are distinct

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:02:20 UTC No. 16433240

>>16433239
No offense, kill yourself

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:02:23 UTC No. 16433241

>SpaceX to lay off 10% of its workers back in 2019
I forgot this was a thing

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:04:20 UTC No. 16433243

>>16433241
i cant even imagine layoffs now. they're going to need thousands of more workers soon.

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:04:27 UTC No. 16433244

>>16433240
Yes, wishing someone to kill themselves is considered hate speech.

While the term "hate speech" often refers to language targeting specific groups based on factors like race, religion, or sexual orientation, it can also extend to threats or wishes of harm, including death.

Wishing someone harm, especially something as severe as death, can be deeply distressing and harmful to the individual. It can also be considered a form of harassment or intimidation.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:04:43 UTC No. 16433246

>>16433241
Why did he decimate his workforce? Does he think about the roman empire a lot?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:05:54 UTC No. 16433249

>>16432623
damn this is cool.
thanks for showing!!!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:09:03 UTC No. 16433253

>>16432823
kek ojalá, vamos milei

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:09:10 UTC No. 16433254

>>16433244
Fuck off turbo autist

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:14:25 UTC No. 16433258

Straship Block 2

Elon : I’m so glad we finally fixed the forward flap design!

The old one was killing me. Too large and heavy and positioned at 180 degrees, requiring large static aero and not fully stowed, so that pushes the nose backwards during the high heating hypersonic phase of flight, which is the opposite of what you want.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846229867047588216

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:15:46 UTC No. 16433259

>>16433149
Reminder ESGhound is extremely easy to bully

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:23:49 UTC No. 16433268

>>16433219
>us controls a tiny part of the mexican bank of the rio grande
so if you were a beaner trying to set up a farm there, would you have to go through loads of rigmarole with the us govt. salting your crops?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:29:08 UTC No. 16433270

>>16433035
Fuck Overwatch WEBMs, I'mma fap to this all week!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:31:00 UTC No. 16433273

>>16433270
Everyone point and laugh at the anon who masturbates to phallic objects.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:33:09 UTC No. 16433274

>>16433273
I like that too :3

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:37:45 UTC No. 16433283

>>16433244
Kill yourself

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:41:23 UTC No. 16433291

>>16433113
There's life, but no spacefaring civilization. Sad!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:41:58 UTC No. 16433294

>>16433258
how will they get a decent sized payload bay door on this thing?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:42:55 UTC No. 16433295

>>16433119
It's okay to be dumb, but please stop sharing your opinions

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:44:37 UTC No. 16433299

https://x.com/AJamesMcCarthy/status/1846248028489109567

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:47:11 UTC No. 16433303

>>16433294
When they figure out the basic shape of the fucking ship.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:49:43 UTC No. 16433306

this is just pathetic

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:50:46 UTC No. 16433307

B12 heading back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSCWaT_ff_8

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:51:10 UTC No. 16433309

>>16432483
how much are we talking? i only see mentioned of $15bn over the past 20 years.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:51:21 UTC No. 16433311

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSCWaT_ff_8

Booster rolFUCK YOU BEAT ME

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:52:11 UTC No. 16433312

>>16432493
lets get some numbers on it before you get carried away with this line or argument

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:52:31 UTC No. 16433314

>>16433299

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:53:21 UTC No. 16433316

>>16433307
>>16433311
I haven't seen anyone talk about this bit. Clearly not a mission critical failure, but definitely needs to be ironed out for RR to work.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:54:57 UTC No. 16433318

>>16433299
>>16433314

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:55:58 UTC No. 16433320

>>16433307
bye bye!
>>16433316
I heard they were getting rid of those things entirely. not sure if it’s true though.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:57:28 UTC No. 16433321

>>16433314
was this when the nozzles warped?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:57:35 UTC No. 16433322

>>16433307
>>16433311
Imagine how much good data they're going to get out of this thing. Super heavy is going to be as good as F9 before Starship can reliably reenter

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:00:47 UTC No. 16433324

>>16433316
Yeah, not sure if it was a pressure blow-out from something breaking inside, or just the "skin" of the chime getting torn off. It broke at the engine burn, not the high-pressure fall moments prior.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:02:34 UTC No. 16433326

>>16433322
Though F9 still has fuck ups here and there, what scares me is when it'll eventually happens to Superheavy, it will make the tower and launch pad out of service for weeks if not months

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:03:29 UTC No. 16433328

>>16433326
Unless it happens on flight 6 they will have at least 2 olms and towers by then.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:05:03 UTC No. 16433334

Imagine NOT gooning to Starship landings

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:08:04 UTC No. 16433337

I don't know why they want to try again with another Version 1 of Starship. Unless they were catching the ship on a barge, I'd think they should move onto Version 2 to see if the forward flaps fix the burn-through.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:08:30 UTC No. 16433339

>>16433303
Category error

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:11:36 UTC No. 16433342

GAO believes Starship HLS will have a 70% chance of being ready in February 2028

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:12:00 UTC No. 16433343

>>16433337
It's more data and they either test it or throw it out
Even simply in terms of employee morale that's a bad idea

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:12:35 UTC No. 16433345

https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1846265514504401190
>If you listen at 1:45, you can even hear the sonic booms from the hot staging ring!!!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:13:57 UTC No. 16433347

They're going to need super heavy to belly flop too won't they

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:16:28 UTC No. 16433351

>>16433345
kek reminds me of mundane parts fucking exploding on impact after a failed launch in KSP

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:23:30 UTC No. 16433354

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:31:21 UTC No. 16433362

Elon Musk needs me? Okay, I'll do it. I'll vote for you, Elon!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:33:25 UTC No. 16433366

>>16433345
that's insane!

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:04:21 UTC No. 16433386

>>16433314
Why dont they show this view on stream? they did the first one

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:08:09 UTC No. 16433389

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2024/10/15/nasa-updates-2025-commercial-crew-plan/
“potential” Starliner flight in 2025
HAHAHHAAHHHAH

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:11:59 UTC No. 16433391

So they launched Starship, Falcon Heavy and 2 Falcon 9s all in the span on 3 days.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:16:03 UTC No. 16433394

When Flight 6?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:16:12 UTC No. 16433395

>>16432432
To match the cadence SpaceX has achieved with the upcoming 2 Starlink launches + Europa Clipper + IFT5. 4 for 4.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:16:47 UTC No. 16433396

>>16433389
>The timing and configuration of Starliner’s next flight will be determined once a better understanding of Boeing’s path to system certification is established. This determination will include considerations for incorporating Crew Flight Test lessons learned, approvals of final certification products, and operational readiness.
>Meanwhile, NASA is keeping options on the table for how best to achieve system certification, including windows of opportunity for a potential Starliner flight in 2025.

Ooof. Starliner isn't going to get system certification until at least 2026

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:17:20 UTC No. 16433397

the rich are gonna ditch us here on earth while they go play communism on mars arent they

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:19:08 UTC No. 16433399

Workers gathered to witness the return of Booster12

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:20:58 UTC No. 16433401

>>16433399
why are they so shit at framing it?
i havent seen a good hero shot of the rocket with someone standing right next to it
they do a real shit job of conveying how big it is

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:22:45 UTC No. 16433403

>>16433397
>the rich are going to adopt an economic philosophy in which no one has any property or any money to buy anything with
You could at least try not to be retarded

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:23:44 UTC No. 16433405

Man this was such a kino landing, clear sky apart from that one cloud and then it happens to come right through it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzyaud250Xo

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:24:07 UTC No. 16433406

>>16433403
We got quite a few retards and trolls after the launch sticking around

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:25:02 UTC No. 16433408

>>16433406
>>16433403
shut up i post here all the time

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:25:43 UTC No. 16433410

>>16433401
Because they want it to be framed by a large group of people not any one individual. SpaceX down in boca chica is about We not I. In this, they have succeeded beyond Von Braun in the correct way forward.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:26:47 UTC No. 16433412

>>16433410
someone could just walk up to it with a camera dumbass its not that deep

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:30:17 UTC No. 16433416

>>16433408
Then don't post like you're retarded.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:31:23 UTC No. 16433418

>>16433209
Too many chefs in the kitchen, law of diminishing returns, etc.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:45:53 UTC No. 16433434

>>16433209
I swear that new shepard thing is a curse. It's the epitome of the "you must master this thing before moving onto the next one" mentality.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:48:46 UTC No. 16433436

>>16433394
wooden pieces, nice.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:50:37 UTC No. 16433438

>>16433403
Richfags are universally marxists

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:52:41 UTC No. 16433439

>>16433438
Just because they sell you "Che! says Trans Rights!" t-shirts does not make them marxists.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:56:00 UTC No. 16433442

>>16433412
>how to lose your job 101
dipshit

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:24:43 UTC No. 16433453

>>16433342
>2028
That's rough, mind you COVID and the BO suit didn't help at all but still. It might just be a consequence of politicians wanting the moon landing during their own terms.
NASA dithering on Orion and Artemis 2 plus the setbacks in development of Gateway, Axiom suits and the ML means that 2028 is probably a more realistic launch date for Artemis 3.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:25:46 UTC No. 16433455

>>16433394
December-February

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:30:50 UTC No. 16433462

>musk is calling for the end of protection status on boca chica wildlife

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:35:07 UTC No. 16433468

>switches to airplane mode and back
>clears the cache
fuck you jannies, i am back.
fuck you gon do?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:43:24 UTC No. 16433472

>>16433141
Why is 314 (?) painted differently? Was it for some pi joke?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:44:44 UTC No. 16433476

>>16433472
it's literally a slice of pie

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:47:33 UTC No. 16433480

>>16433453
2028 was alwaays the more realistic date. 2024 was a lunatic date which noone really thought possible. NASA stuck to such an ambitious timeline trying to emulate the Musk style, but it was never going to happen. The 'national team' lander would have probably been ready for 2028 too if that was selected. not sayingthey are onpart to spacex though. with the spacex lander we get a free superheavy reusable rocket

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:48:50 UTC No. 16433482

>>16433141
i like the military stencil font they use. very retro.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:49:12 UTC No. 16433483

>>16433476
Fuck's sake

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:49:41 UTC No. 16433484

>>16433468
*rangebans u for abuse*

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:52:45 UTC No. 16433485

>>16433326
Booster is an empty soda can when it comes back. It's not going to hurt the tower, though the shrapnel of exploded steel rings might mess up some ground tanks.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:54:49 UTC No. 16433487

>>16433472
314 is not even PI. there is no dot, and 3.14 is too short to be recognizable. if they used 3.14 in aerospace as an approximation of PI, that would be really bad.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:56:43 UTC No. 16433489

>>16433487
You’re so smart they should hire you to paint the engines.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:56:46 UTC No. 16433490

>>16432683

Oh no. Anyway.....

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:57:05 UTC No. 16433492

>>16433487
>No fun allowed
Go back to boing

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:58:22 UTC No. 16433493

>>16433489
that's probably more money than the janny is paid.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:59:46 UTC No. 16433495

>>16433487
I prefer apple, myself.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:01:39 UTC No. 16433499

>>16433141
This thing could be used as a giant open space tanning lamp. Could take care of the entire beach in California.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:25:07 UTC No. 16433528

>>16433493
I suggest we double the wage

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:26:54 UTC No. 16433531

Mad Mike is building a cosmology.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:27:08 UTC No. 16433532

>>16432912
Make it double layer filled with water for weight

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:28:15 UTC No. 16433534

>>16432776
Two words: Indentured Servitude

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:29:20 UTC No. 16433538

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:30:21 UTC No. 16433541

>Pathetic

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:30:53 UTC No. 16433542

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:31:04 UTC No. 16433544

>>16432974
>IFT1/2/3 etc. is cooler than F1/2/3
No it isn't lol
You're just used to it and coping
>theyre flights and also integrated and tests,
Integrated is superfluous, what other condition with you have a flight test in?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:31:58 UTC No. 16433545

>>16432974
faggot

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:32:17 UTC No. 16433548

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:32:49 UTC No. 16433549

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:33:22 UTC No. 16433550

this angle shows it's more scorched than it seemed from other angles

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:34:38 UTC No. 16433552

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:36:08 UTC No. 16433553

>>16433538
>future
>forgets the past 10 years
lmao

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:37:31 UTC No. 16433555

>>16433553
Reuse is the future even though no other company is even working on it lol

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:42:35 UTC No. 16433559

>>16432654
they look nothing alike

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:43:23 UTC No. 16433561

>>16433550
hotstaging?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:51:51 UTC No. 16433571

>>16433538
Why is this so profound? Just a canned statement from a donothing org

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:57:55 UTC No. 16433578

Wouldn't Starship need an ISS size cooling system and radiators for such a large crew on a long flight?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:58:19 UTC No. 16433579

https://spacenews.com/china-launches-second-batch-of-18-satellites-for-thousand-sails-megaconstellation/
>A Long March 6A rocket lifted off from Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center, north China, at 7:06 a.m. Eastern Oct. 15. The China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation announced launch success over two hours after liftoff. The Long March 6A upper stage deployed the flat panel Qianfan (or “Thousand Sails”) Polar Orbit-02 group of 18 satellites into polar orbit for Shanghai Spacecom Satellite Technology. The project is sometimes referred to as G60 Starlink.
>The mission will be followed closely for a number of reasons. The Long March 6A, developed by the state-owned Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology, has, despite successful launchers, suffered issues with its upper stage fragmenting. Its last launch—which carried the first 18 Qianfan satellites—broke up into a cloud suspected to number more than 700 pieces of orbital debris. SAST has so far not responded to requests for comment.

More debris incoming

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:00:09 UTC No. 16433581

>>16432964
I'm going to keep calling it Irbital Flight Test until they start doing proper orbits.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:01:24 UTC No. 16433584

>>16433542
>>16433541
Enjoy my 5min paint skills

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:02:14 UTC No. 16433585

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:02:24 UTC No. 16433586

>>16433578
Probably, since it has roughly the same volume but with a worse volume to surface area ratio meaning without radiators it will cool off even worse. I've seen some concept art of Starships with solar panels sticking out, so maybe they could do that but with radiators .
The stainless steel might radiate heat off better than the ISS but I wouldn't know, could another anon confirm that?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:04:10 UTC No. 16433587

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:05:56 UTC No. 16433590

>>16433587
And you all said refueling flights for Starship were gonna take a long time

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:06:58 UTC No. 16433591

>>16433586
A TRAB could probably solve some of the heating issues

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:17:08 UTC No. 16433595

Starlink is one step closer to operation India.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:21:44 UTC No. 16433604

>>16433578
>>16433591
It probably just comes down to mass (as with everything in spaceflight). If a TRAB has a higher cooling efficiency to mass ratio than radiator panels, they'll probably use one of those. Or they might not even bother with a TRAB if it doesn't produce worthwhile electricity.
As Starship gets further from Earth and the Sun, there's less sunlight providing radiative heat so the cooling problems are reduced just by going to its destination. A majority of the heat on the ISS comes from the sun so there might be a point on the trip to Mars where heat from the sun becomes a non-issue and it can radiate away the heat from the crew/machines just fine.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:23:47 UTC No. 16433608

>>16433544
>what other condition with you have a flight test in?
The immediately preceding series of flight tests where Starship hopped with no 1st stage?
Or flying the booster by itself, either with a reduced fuel load (hop to low altitude, land on tower), or else full load with some kind of aero cap in place of the hotstage ring?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:24:04 UTC No. 16433609

sirs how many rupees for space internet sirs my village very poor

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:28:47 UTC No. 16433612

This is how you can tell the difference between a real rocket and a toy. NS belongs in the dump not a museum

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:31:44 UTC No. 16433614

>>16433595
DO NOT REDEEM FREQUENCY SIRS

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:32:21 UTC No. 16433615

rockets belong in the ocean actually

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:32:54 UTC No. 16433616

>>16432964
what channel?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:33:39 UTC No. 16433618

>>16433612
cringe, what purpose does this exhibit serve?

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:34:58 UTC No. 16433619

>>16433618
it shows how much money bezos gave them

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:38:22 UTC No. 16433622

>>16433615
Based and pool torpedo pilled

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:39:22 UTC No. 16433624

>>16433612
>>16433618
I want to see William Shatner's shat stains inside there.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:43:08 UTC No. 16433629

>>16433615
They belong in a loving embrace

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:45:44 UTC No. 16433632

>>16433629
she needs to look beat up desu

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:45:47 UTC No. 16433633

If you can't enjoy rockets without turning them into cartoon people, you don't like rockets.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:46:11 UTC No. 16433634

>>16433604
I wonder if the heat from the sun could be usefully reduced by simply sticking a big sheet of mylar between Starship and the Sun while in transit. Of course then you would need to have the solar panels sticking out of the shade, so might not be worth it.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:46:47 UTC No. 16433635

>>16433633
If you can't enjoy rockets when they're turned into cartoon people, you don't like rockets.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:48:51 UTC No. 16433640

If you can't enjoy people without turning them into cartoon rockets

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:49:40 UTC No. 16433641

>>16433640
Those are clearly lips

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:49:52 UTC No. 16433642

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:50:54 UTC No. 16433643

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:51:14 UTC No. 16433644

>>16433642
You are shitting up the general. Consider rope

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:51:38 UTC No. 16433645

lunar dust is my drug

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:55:29 UTC No. 16433648

>>16433634
There are other options than solars, one proposal for Starship power is to literally just have a bunch of Tesla battery packs even though that sounds retarded because li-on batteries are known to combust and it's a lot of extra mass.

The bigger issue with the mylar sheet idea is that it would need to have a "parallel" trajectory with the transit of Starship's Hohmann transfer to make sure it's always blocking the sun, along with having the proper orientation, so it would need to carry it's own propellant to make these adjustments and that point you're just launching another spacecraft so it might be a very expensive solution.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:57:22 UTC No. 16433652

>>16433643
You are shining up the general. Consider hope

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:57:29 UTC No. 16433653

>>16433640
I don't enjoy people regardless of whether they are turned into cartoon rockets or not.

Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:58:52 UTC No. 16433654

>>16433644
>The no anime tranny is back
Oh no not the Nth discussion on mars/moon/venus colonisation or the millionth FAA insult.
Clipper and IFT-5 are done, sfg can have down time.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:01:00 UTC No. 16433657

>>16433219
Zoom in on that image and you will find a couple of white pickup trucks parked near the river. Who do you think they belong to?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:01:42 UTC No. 16433658

>>16433644
bithreadly reminder if you hate anime you're a newfag

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:03:46 UTC No. 16433660

>>16433634
The idea is to point the engines at the sun to shade the entire ship, and rely on enough radiative cooling from the sides to keep the tanks chilled. The living quarters might need heating

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:05:22 UTC No. 16433662

>>16433578
The ISS can't avoid the sun because it's so spindly and stupid.
Starship can point ass-first at the sun and reduce a lot of heating.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:06:36 UTC No. 16433664

>>16433658
Is that twice a thread or once every two threads?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:12:15 UTC No. 16433666

>>16433664
yes

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:13:04 UTC No. 16433667

Jeff Bezos says that landing propellant is very mass expensive compared to aero surfaces.

Witht hat in mind would starship booster benefit from strakes? They would make it more aero-stable on the way up and would mean boostback and landing require less delta v from the engines

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:15:16 UTC No. 16433668

New Glenn hasn't even hopped yet
His opinion is pretty irrelevant on reuse
Mass cost of the 1st stage is far less relevant too, theres a reason the Starship is going to belly flop

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:16:00 UTC No. 16433669

>>16433648
>li-on batteries are known to combust
you would probably need to make a special deep space starship in this case, but the batteries could be mounted on pyrotechnic bolts to drop if they start combusting

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:25:15 UTC No. 16433672

>>16433667
He probably isn't wrong, but BO has a minuscule launch record compared to SeX and New Shepard is mogged hard by every SpaceX rocket so his judgement is questionable.

With something as large as SH booster, actually flipping it to use aerodynamic surfaces for braking is a whole nother engineering challenge, getting the bellyflop to work with Starship alone was hard enough because of fluid dynamics and something a long and cylindrical as SH booster might have structural integrity issues with a belly flop maneuver. And designing it to carry less fuel means that there's less carry capacity and delta-v for fully-expendable launches of SSH.

Maybe some kind of deployable aero surfaces could work, isn't that Falcon 9 does with it's weird landing legs?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:32:01 UTC No. 16433675

>>16433672
seems to me superheavy doesnt have wings because of elons best part no part autism. falcon and superheavy already use themselves as lifting bodies and glide back to the landing site. with strakes you can have a steeper glide angle and lower terminal velocity

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:33:52 UTC No. 16433678

>>16433658
>>16433654
Who said I hate anime? Clearbros are great, you useless niglets have done nothing but shit up the general. Also
>defending the FAA
Can we get this guy a poop sandwich?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:39:31 UTC No. 16433681

>>16433675
wing surfaces still add mass which means it will still consume more fuel, along with adding extra drag in the ascent. the fuel saved from aerobraking for reuseability just might not be significant enough to be worth it from a cost standpoint

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:45:31 UTC No. 16433684

>>16433042
>>16433058
kek

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:48:19 UTC No. 16433686

>>16433314
Fuck it, Starship is now officially > Saturn V on the rocket tier list

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:53:18 UTC No. 16433688

LAUNCH of Gaofen 12-05 (Civilian-Military dual use SAR observation with 30cm resolution), on CZ-4C (serial number Y59) from Jiuquan pad LC-94 at 23:45 UTC, 49th Chinese launch of the year.

launch footage:
https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:5090014531354654?from=old_pc_videoshow

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:55:25 UTC No. 16433691

>>16433688
launch and satellite patches

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:00:32 UTC No. 16433695

Why haven't we gone back to the Moon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOmBvhsDvHg&t

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:01:30 UTC No. 16433696

>>16433695
buy an ad

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:03:58 UTC No. 16433698

>>16433695

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:05:27 UTC No. 16433699

>>16433698
what is it with you shuttle haters and irrationally scapegoating it for YOUR failures?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:07:43 UTC No. 16433702

>>16432426
A couple times a day I feel this enormous sense of relief that IFT-5 was such a gigantic success.
I feel like it was a kind of causal choke point affecting much more than just the pace of progress in the Starship program. I think any major flaw in the mission—like the ship breaking up on reentry even if the booster catch worked—would have placed the world on a worse path into the future. Instead, there are good vibes in the air. I can't really point to a single example of why I'm so relieved, but I think IFT-5 had a positive ripple effect that may never be fully understood.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:08:35 UTC No. 16433703

>>16433699
I don't hate the shuttle, it was pretty cool, and it made sense in the context that it was started.
However it factually bound american heavy lift and human exploration to LEO.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:09:53 UTC No. 16433706

>>16433702
Between IFT-4 and IFT-5, the only space-related headlines that came out at all were space politics bullshit. The vibes day in and day out were completely diabolical. We needed an engineering victory to get things back on track.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:11:06 UTC No. 16433709

>>16433695
is he your boyfriend or something?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:11:58 UTC No. 16433710

>>16433695
>>16433696
>>16433698
>>16433699
>>16433702
>>16433703
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THESE ARE ALL KYPLANET.
HE HAS BEEN RUNNING A HYBRID AD CAMPAIGN HERE AND ON PLEBIT FOR MONTHS

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:13:22 UTC No. 16433712

>>16433710
Just report for advertising and move on

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:13:26 UTC No. 16433713

>>16433702
I'm starting to get tired of seeing people who never cared about starship or spaceflight trying to give their two cents in my feeds

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:26:27 UTC No. 16433727

>>16433713
Rightoids that worship M*sk are all tripping over themselves to suck his cock and hail him as a hero for landing a rocket (something NASA did in the 70s)

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:27:43 UTC No. 16433728

>>16433612

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:28:14 UTC No. 16433729

hotstage ring spotted

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:33:17 UTC No. 16433733

>>16433728
they unironically spent 4 days doing this
what the fuck

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:34:58 UTC No. 16433735

>>16433612
why is a rocket that's never been to space in a museum?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:43:43 UTC No. 16433740

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:44:13 UTC No. 16433741

>>16433612
>>16433728
What a thoroughly disappointing use of square footage in the Smithsonian. That's the main building too! I hope this is an extremely specific "Space Tourism" gallery because that's the only way this shit makes any sense.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:44:59 UTC No. 16433742

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:45:37 UTC No. 16433744

>>16433740
do ho ho

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:45:49 UTC No. 16433745

>>16433741
would be kino if they put a spaceshiptwo in backflip config over it

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:47:50 UTC No. 16433747

FUCK I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THE EUROPA LAUNCH.
GOD DAMMIT I BLAME /VP/

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:47:51 UTC No. 16433748

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:48:31 UTC No. 16433750

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:48:49 UTC No. 16433752

>>16433747
Gotta watch 'em all

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:50:52 UTC No. 16433754

>>16433752
did either of the starlink launches get a single post here? must have missed them . amazing how routine it is

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:58:18 UTC No. 16433759

>>16433754
I don't remember when exactly elon said he hoped Spacex could manage to make launches routine and boring, but incredibly, they've succeded

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:01:50 UTC No. 16433760

>>16433026
The real one would be renumbering them as Mk. ns

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:06:13 UTC No. 16433765

>>16433616
Eager Space, don't remember which video

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:06:46 UTC No. 16433766

>>16433760
When did they switch from Mk. to SN? Mk3? I know they were onto SNs by SN5

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:13:15 UTC No. 16433770

there's another startup?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:15:48 UTC No. 16433771

>>16433745
the hall of technological dead ends

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:16:39 UTC No. 16433773

>>16433770
>return cargo from space to Earth
Right, like processed asteroids!!
Another scam

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:17:16 UTC No. 16433775

>>16433608
Completely obsolete activities, for historical value only.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:18:18 UTC No. 16433776

>>16433770
Way of the dodo in 2 years or less, yawn

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:32:06 UTC No. 16433783

>>16433728
AHHHHH THEY ARE SO SLOW, GRADATIM FEROTICERAHDJKF2#

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:33:07 UTC No. 16433784

>>16433766
iirc Mk. 3 became SN1

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:34:23 UTC No. 16433785

>>16433579
>have to launch 648 chinese starlinks before the end of next year
that's 36 launches, which isnt impossible, but can china even pull that off? are we about to see a surge in chinese launches?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:37:53 UTC No. 16433789

>>16433642
Sucks that it never got to fly before starship. Now it just feels like a waste. I wish SpaceX went with that design for dragon.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:40:44 UTC No. 16433793

Guys how do I get a space loving gf? At best, whenever I spill my spaghetti on my space love autism girls will humor me at best, or actually get disgusted at worst. How do I find the one to go to the Mars launches with?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:46:19 UTC No. 16433796

shits starting to look like silicon valley

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:49:21 UTC No. 16433797

>>16433793
be tall and handsome and they will do anything you want

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:51:36 UTC No. 16433800

>>16433785
Zhuque-3 and Tianlong-3 are supposed to have their first flights sometime next year, along with the Long March 12. The Long March 8A is supposed to be going into mass production so it can launch 50 times per year. China's commercial solids are still launching from barges because there's too much of a traffic jam at their inland launch sites. The Hainan commercial spaceport should be on line, since the LM-12 is going to be flying from there, and Xichang just got a commercial expansion approved.

We should be seeing a surge already, but China's second-generation launch systems all seem to keep running into some kind of roadblock. The LM-5, 6, and 7 were going to launch enough that they were going to completely replace the LM-2, 3, and 4, but that never panned out. Now China is starting to throw all the shit at the wall at the same time to time to try so it can try to add up to something. I'm not sure what is going on in the back end, but there's something that's holding China back from accelerating the way it wants to.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:51:38 UTC No. 16433801

I want to fuck cartoon rocket women

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:52:13 UTC No. 16433803

'ello and hey-hey! talk about flight five.

https://youtu.be/Flv1W6AR-cU?si=Q1vw0JyPtn3G3ZVA&t=64

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:52:38 UTC No. 16433807

>>16433801
Do that in private and stop posting your garbage. Only Clear is /sfg/ approved.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:55:47 UTC No. 16433812

>>16433807
You're a faggot wannabe janny

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:55:47 UTC No. 16433813

>>16433803
Something about those fins… I’m not a fan of V2 hopefully it grows on me

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:55:49 UTC No. 16433814

One thing I will say about going in person is that the hype is kind of lost compared to /sfg/ posting simultaneously. Sure its there but I dont know, for me it ended much faster than I thought it would. Brownsville overall was nice though, and obviously great launch. The highlight though was the wait for liftoff and visiting Starbase, very strange. Did anyone else have similar experience?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:57:08 UTC No. 16433815

>>16433812
Kill yourself nigger your spam is annoying and you defend the FAA

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:58:55 UTC No. 16433816

>>16433813
Looks like a squid

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:01:00 UTC No. 16433819

>>16433816
Yeah kek

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:01:52 UTC No. 16433821

>>16433814
I watched it streamed to my tv with my dad at 10 pm ausfag time. It was great, switching back to /sfg/ after it landed was amazing hype. I think I preferred it this way over actually being there. I would someday like to see in person a booster and ship take off, land, then restack and take off again

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:03:33 UTC No. 16433822

>>16433816
If you karate chop Starship right below the header tank it dies and immediately turns translucent.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:06:12 UTC No. 16433825

>>16433814
the experience is not the same with our sfg bros kek

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:08:36 UTC No. 16433827

>>16433816
de geso

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:08:59 UTC No. 16433828

>>16433827
exactly what I was thinking, does anyone have the de geso starship edit?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:10:41 UTC No. 16433831

>>16433828
this?
>>16424225

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:11:21 UTC No. 16433833

>>16433831
yea that

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:14:24 UTC No. 16433838

>>16433750
What? They couldn't have left a de-ITAR'ed raptor in there? Lame

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:15:35 UTC No. 16433840

>>16432699
immediately shot down by cheap drones or small arms fire from the ground. pirates dream come true

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:17:11 UTC No. 16433842

>>16433750
>starhopper upskirt
hmm

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:20:44 UTC No. 16433846

Solar is so dumb, the scale needed for even basic outpost power and fuel production on Mars is insanely preposterous

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:24:20 UTC No. 16433850

>>16433846
Everything about the conquest of Mars is insanely preposterous
That's why it must be done

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:24:22 UTC No. 16433851

>>16432509
elon is anti union and unions are anti elon

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:26:47 UTC No. 16433853

>>16433846
ahem
https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/11-feb-2020/broadcast-3459-dr.-robert-zubrin
>When Zubrin pointed out that it would require 6-10 football fields of solar panels to refuel a single Starship Elon said "Fine, that's what we will do".

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:27:03 UTC No. 16433854

>>16433815
crying little bitch who can't handle some pictures LMFAO

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:29:23 UTC No. 16433858

>>16433853
>When Zubrin pointed out that it would require 6-10 football fields of solar panels to refuel a single Starship Elon said "Fine, that's what we will do".
based
Although I wonder if SpaceX could get clearance to use RTGs or experiment with nuclear power. A handful of RTGs might be better than a fuckton of solar panels.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:30:12 UTC No. 16433859

>>16433858
RTGs are worthless for serious power. They just provide trickle power for instrumentation.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:31:13 UTC No. 16433860

>>16433853
Zubrin is wrong by virtue of being a jewish faggot
Musk is wrong by virtue of being a bullheaded contrarian
1 fuel pellet of uranium could replace an entire field of solar panels. I think Musk realizes it’s unrealistic from an “internal” standpoint i.e. too much red tape; ergo he has sort of accepted that panels will probably need to he spammed to the red planet. But that doesn’t mean he’s correct in that it’s the best way to do things. It would be like saying SS could be done with 100 hypergolic engines instead of 33 FFSC methalox engines. Yes it works but there are better solutions

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:33:49 UTC No. 16433864

>>16433858
Solar would be technically simpler, but depending on when SpaceX gets around to this some of the reactor ideas that are being cooked up for Artemis might be available.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:38:54 UTC No. 16433866

>>16433858
I remain convinced that Musk's visit to Los Alamos will end up being part of Spacex skunkworks getting to play with the fun rocks as part of a program to develop next-gen submarine reactors and first-gen space ship/station/outpost reactors.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:41:25 UTC No. 16433868

>>16433860
>"uranium is superior"
>goes on to explain why uranium is inferior
Relying on fissionables from Earth is just giving the USG a way to fuck you in the ass whenever it wants.
Nuclear is only practical if you can ISRU it with Martian fissionable fuel.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 03:41:51 UTC No. 16433870

>>16433866
even religiously pro-SpaceX spitterfags who show up in my algorithm like truthful and dsik or whatever his name is think that “iterative design” SX shouldn’t be allowed to pursue nuclear reactors lol