🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 22:59:03 UTC No. 16429704
Reusable Starship Edition
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Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:01:11 UTC No. 16429708
https://x.com/vast/status/184559493
Reposting Vast Haven-2 announcement for those that missed. Its a whole animation of how they will put the station (read 9 separate stations) together so go watch!
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:01:29 UTC No. 16429709
It's happening. We're all going to make it. The future is looking bright.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:03:35 UTC No. 16429711
there are now 3 active sfgs.
Image limits do make things tricky.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:04:29 UTC No. 16429713
>>16429706
theoretically yes
practically nasa will find a way to insert itself into such attempt
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:04:37 UTC No. 16429714
>>16429711
Tell the janniggers to increase image limit for us again. They did it before they can do it again.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:05:30 UTC No. 16429716
>>16429713
>practically nasa will find a way to insert itself into such attempt
they seemed pretty hands off for the other private missions
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:05:37 UTC No. 16429717
>>16429715
>Its over.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:05:47 UTC No. 16429718
additional link to the parallel sfg in case some sfg historian tries to track the previous thread links >>16424354
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:05:55 UTC No. 16429719
>>16429708
Boring, where's my artificial gravity ring?
>>16429715
>I should make another video about solar freaking roadways
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:07:18 UTC No. 16429722
>>16429715
>How can I grift and clickbait my audience now?
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:07:53 UTC No. 16429724
when will we be getting rid of solar panels and going nuclear?
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:10:38 UTC No. 16429728
>>16429727
oddly enough CNET did just that for their article pic
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:10:43 UTC No. 16429729
>>16429716
i'm sure you can tell the difference between a leo trip and a moon landing, especially if the private attempt happens before china and artemis
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:10:52 UTC No. 16429730
>>16429708
First segment
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:12:43 UTC No. 16429733
>>16429730
Then they line them up while center is being constructed
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:13:38 UTC No. 16429736
>>16429729
>if the private attempt happens before china and artemis
I wonder if they would even allow that.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:13:52 UTC No. 16429737
>>16429733
Then they rearrange them on the center and add 4 more additional modules like the original
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:14:17 UTC No. 16429739
>>16429727
(credit to anon in previous thread)
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:15:00 UTC No. 16429740
>>16429737
They will add a big window on the ends
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:15:06 UTC No. 16429741
>>16429739
he's a big guy
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:16:31 UTC No. 16429744
>>16429708
A bunch of 7 meter sized modules, presumably for new Glenn, with a Starship sized core module
Cool
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:16:39 UTC No. 16429745
>>16429740
It will also have an arm and external payload Im assuming for whoever pays
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:17:20 UTC No. 16429746
People don't really appreciate some of the dumber things driving Bechtel's extreme costs to build the NASA launch tower
The insistence on using SRBs means anything they build needs to be able to handle the cloud of hydrochloric acid from the exhaust, which requires extensive protective coatings to be applied on every surface to NASA spec
Because the tower isn't modular the fact that it is being increased in height from the other one means they had to completely redesign it from scratch
(Want to guess when they made their order for the steel they will be using on the tower?)
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:17:29 UTC No. 16429747
>>16429742
>welcome to the club
>>16428814
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:19:13 UTC No. 16429753
>>16429744
Oh shit I didnt see this art before, SOVL and actually achievable if Haven-1 goes well since they will have experience and basically just need to construct the aame thing over and over.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:19:18 UTC No. 16429754
>>16429742
Imagine being so autistic that you have to turn a rocket into a cartoon girl
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:19:43 UTC No. 16429755
>>16429746
Lmao, thanks Trump.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:20:18 UTC No. 16429757
>>16429744
Why do you assume New Glenn? They could also just fly on Starship if it comes to 2028 no? Unless Im wrong in thinking you can pur smaller diameter payload inside a decently larger ship?
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:21:14 UTC No. 16429759
>>16429722
this
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:21:34 UTC No. 16429760
>>16429736
put it in another way, imo there's zero chance of a private moon landing happening before artemis, not because spacex cannot do it, but because the moment they come close to doing it, nasa will at the very least buy a seat for their astronaut and turn it into a nominal us mission.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:22:36 UTC No. 16429761
>>16429715
>all those times I told them it will never work.... will they still believe me now?
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:23:16 UTC No. 16429762
>>16429735
>like, I tooootally hate two-minutes-of-hate-man! updoot me!
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:23:56 UTC No. 16429763
I just want some more HLS interior pics mannnn
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:24:50 UTC No. 16429765
>>16429739
elong is loooooooong
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:25:43 UTC No. 16429766
Theres so many happenings right now and in the like last month or so
>Polaris Dawn
>IFT-5
>Europa Clipper
>Hera
>New Glenn
>F9 return to flight
>Haven-1 final design
>Haven-2 announcement
>Crew-8
>FAA SpaceX conflicts
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:26:33 UTC No. 16429767
>>16429757
They're too long to fit inside Starship payload bay.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:26:45 UTC No. 16429768
>>16429743
Notice 22 comments to 8 likes, it seems like people arent that stupid over there
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:27:07 UTC No. 16429769
>>16429766
Vulcan launched few weeks back. No one cared cause its a dead end tech tree
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:27:46 UTC No. 16429770
>>16429743
>I just don't get why one of these private aircraft companies just doesn't try to reinvent the Wright Flyer.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:28:08 UTC No. 16429771
>>16429743
This is the notX right? LMAO the commie trannies that wanted to escape twitter went there
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:29:31 UTC No. 16429773
>>16429771
So liking Elon is now also commie tranny behavior now? And then you call it X and Twitter in the same statement. You are such an annoying prick, and need to exit this thread.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:30:34 UTC No. 16429775
>>16429773
Commie cult is commie cult.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:31:51 UTC No. 16429777
>>16429765
the resemblance is uncanny
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:32:06 UTC No. 16429778
>>16429708
Is there a reason we can't have bigger docking ports?
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:33:41 UTC No. 16429781
>>16429780
spacex.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:34:17 UTC No. 16429784
>>16429770
>the world's first airplane had an unsymmetrical engine and pilot configuration, canards, and twin pusher props
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:34:46 UTC No. 16429785
>>16429784
you also maneuvered it by flexing the wings.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:34:46 UTC No. 16429786
>>16429780
Presumably, the one currently paying Thales to build more Raffaelos
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worl
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:35:14 UTC No. 16429787
>>16429708
Just like my kerbal games
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:35:34 UTC No. 16429788
>>16429719
>Boring, where's my artificial gravity ring?
Fucking this. It's not even that hard to make it work either.
You need five human-traversable parts: one with the engine in the middle, two stabilizers that are attached on opposite sides to the engine, and two curved habitat modules that attach to the center part.
The stabilizers contain docking ports, ensure the station stays in place when the engine starts rotating the habitat modules and make regular adjustments so the station doesn't accidentally de-orbit.
The entire thing can be sent up through just three launches: the engine and stabilizers should each make up a third of a standard payload size so they can be sent to orbit in a single launch and both habitat modules should take one launch each.
Depending on how big you make the modules, you now either have a curved H-shaped station, or you can make the two curved habitat modules hug the center part to connect both of them and make a continuous circle.
The smaller you make the circle, the faster it'll have to rotate, however. Not sure what the math on that is.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:35:58 UTC No. 16429790
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:37:21 UTC No. 16429793
>>16429777
That's what SH needs, a tail!
(also checked)
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:37:42 UTC No. 16429794
>>16429743
>before elon, after elon
You know, this guy is probably right.
It's insane that people don't recognize just how important the work he's doing is to humanity a thousand years from now.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:38:43 UTC No. 16429796
>>16429784
>>16429785
it also flew tail-first
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:39:54 UTC No. 16429797
>>16429794
It's no accident that he was prophesied by von Braun. Truly great men impact not only the years after them, but also the years before them. Their ripples of influence are so powerful they travel in both directions through time.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:40:10 UTC No. 16429798
>>16429780
axiom is trying to use the busted boeing excuse of only one vendor. can't see how it may backfire with starliner fresh in everyone's mind.
vast wants to launch haven-1 next year. if successful, it will be difficult for nasa to argue against the first and only commercial space station.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:41:35 UTC No. 16429802
>>16429784
>>16429785
And it had anhedral wings.
>>16429796
>tail
that's the canard
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:42:03 UTC No. 16429804
>>16429708
Question: Given its size, how many RPM's should it make to give the tips of the arms 1g of artificial gravity?
Second question: could it survive the stress?
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:42:17 UTC No. 16429805
>>16429780
Orbital Reef is already on its way out. Vast is already making Haven-1 regardless of CLD so I think that being completed succesfully will put them clear in the lead to be picked. I dont trust Northropp when Dynetics fucked up so bad with Alpaca along with there not being much news/progress as of the recent CLD checkup. Axiom maybe but I have no clue how thats going, plus they work in training and flying astronauts as of right now and not as much station building. Same with Nanoracks, Locksneed even pulled out from their agreement so even less confident. I really can only see Vast with how much progress theyve been making with their station. They are using Haven-1 as a testbed and will use that design in most of Haven-2, and Haven-1 will also be the first station up and is relatively low ambition meaning its much more easily achievable than first timing shit like inflatable modules. Also Starship Station variant exists and is getting its PDR in 2028
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:42:44 UTC No. 16429806
>>16429798
boeing's "muh second vendor" excuse never made sense considering NASA also has Soyuz bringing astronauts up.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:43:09 UTC No. 16429808
>>16429735
2024 redditor getting mad at 2011 Redditor
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:44:26 UTC No. 16429811
>>16429780
I like Orbital Reef's look, but it'll probably lose due to cost. Haven seems pretty decent. It looks a little bland but the common modules is a good idea.
Ultimately I think you'll just see a Starship modified to be a single launch space station like Skylab. Maybe modify one to be a station core and dock multiple ships together over time.
Honestly I'm not sure I see the need for such large stations, other than use as propellant depots. Even propellant depots might become unnecessary depending on the ultimate launch cadence of Starship.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:45:09 UTC No. 16429812
>>16429804
why do you need 1g?
640k... I mean 1/3g should be enough for anybody
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:45:29 UTC No. 16429813
>>16429811
>Maybe modify one to be a station core and dock multiple ships together over time.
Dock them radially to the hub like spokes on a wheel, then spin the whole thing up
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:45:57 UTC No. 16429815
>>16429804
Plug in the numbers here
https://www.artificial-gravity.com/
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:48:16 UTC No. 16429819
>>16429704
Back home. That was the most astounding I have ever seen.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:48:48 UTC No. 16429820
>>16429819
The most astounding thing, even
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:50:03 UTC No. 16429822
>>16429815
>Bout 7 RPM and a tip speed of about 50 kmh
What kind of stress forces would we be talking about?
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:51:08 UTC No. 16429825
>>16429806
it actually does make sense. soyuz is not a viable second vendor because america cant just lose domestic manned launch capability if the primary vendor fails, that would look bad. it would be especially bad when the seocnd vendor is a country you have a bad relationship with
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:51:14 UTC No. 16429826
>>16429815
>0.2 g is too low for immediate comfort
I really cannot comprehend how anybody would reach that conclusion. 0.2g is perfect. Enough to keep you in your chair but little enough that any posture you adopt will be comfortable. Very easy to lounge about and relax.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:51:26 UTC No. 16429827
>>16429821
Thats insane
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:52:33 UTC No. 16429829
>>16429816
I want to fuck that tower
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:52:35 UTC No. 16429830
>>16429826
You speak from experience?
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:52:57 UTC No. 16429831
>>16429708
Mir never really died. She just gets reincarnated over and over again.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:53:10 UTC No. 16429833
How Starship Changes Everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF7
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:54:10 UTC No. 16429835
>>16429833
buy an ad
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:55:05 UTC No. 16429837
>>16429833
Fuck off nigger
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:57:15 UTC No. 16429838
>>16429833
be gone
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:57:40 UTC No. 16429839
>>16429715
To his credit he didn’t make fun of the Ship tipping over and exploding. He said it was expected. He was just fixated on
>Musk is le late on his time tables
Which is a dumb argument. He also argued
>Starship is so le big! How could it be possible to be profitable
It is big but yeah, if SX can fly a super heavy lift rocket that big and get the engines / manufacturing costs as low as possible and reuse it as many damn times as possible they can prove thunderf00t wrong.
And to be fair it IS a little bit wild to imagine one-off missions like, say, a single arabsat chartering an entire Starship to go to LEO and this somehow; someway, being cheaper than a F9 flight with a short merlin and a booster that’s been reused 20 times. But Musk is confident Starship can replace Falcon 9 and run at a lower cost so I hope he can do it and prove Phil Mason a bozo
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:58:53 UTC No. 16429842
>>16429804
Without a larger station I think you'd still have the disorientation problem with your feet moving noticeably faster than your head.
Maybe you could spin it really slow and get 0.1g or something. I'm not sure that would be worth losing the benefits of 0g though.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:59:07 UTC No. 16429843
>>16429830
Yes.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:00:52 UTC No. 16429845
The best spin is no spin.
We've been simulating mass as payloads so why can't we simulate gravity?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:00:56 UTC No. 16429846
>>16429833
Fuck off.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:02:05 UTC No. 16429847
>>16429822
About 1 g
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:04:03 UTC No. 16429849
>>16429845
Enough spin to negate the need for velcro is the ideal.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:04:07 UTC No. 16429850
does stretched starship reduce the workload on the heat shield?
does the increased surface area of the heat shield offset the increased energy it takes to orbit the extra mass? thinking of energy bled per m^2 of heat shield
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:04:57 UTC No. 16429852
>>16429845
You need spin so you can have chickens. They can't drink without gravity.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:06:16 UTC No. 16429855
>>16429846
No how about you.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:06:25 UTC No. 16429856
>>16429819
Spectacular shot, anon.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:07:05 UTC No. 16429857
>>16429852
In space we'll have ducks instead. Water fowl are better adapted to zero g.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:09:06 UTC No. 16429862
>>16429845
>why can't we simulate gravity?
Because you need a LOT of mass to create human-measurable gravity.
For example, you'd need about one and a half trillion kg to generate 0.2g.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:09:14 UTC No. 16429863
What is the “spinlaunch” equivalent of landing?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:10:48 UTC No. 16429864
>>16429863
Lithobreaking
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:11:07 UTC No. 16429865
>>16429863
Spinlanding
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:11:19 UTC No. 16429866
>>16429864
The only correct answer kek
B00T at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:12:24 UTC No. 16429868
>>16429866
No.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:12:32 UTC No. 16429869
>>16429863
>what is the landing equivalent of not going to space
not landing?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:13:22 UTC No. 16429870
>>16429863
SMART, only the engines land
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:13:28 UTC No. 16429871
>>16429715
>>16429839
>he didn’t make fun of the Ship tipping over and exploding
sort of, he posited ditching in the ocean as an indication of failure and that starship is never going to work. Which is just stupid and baseless. They aren't flying a true orbit and landing on land or tower catching the ship because of license issues. They have to demonstrate in orbit relight and spacex probably didn't want to relight the engines two times and potentially ruin a chance for reentry and simulated landings. Raptor 2 isn't raptor 3
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:13:49 UTC No. 16429872
>>16429868
Yes!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:14:44 UTC No. 16429873
>>16429863
orbital decelerator
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:16:02 UTC No. 16429874
>>16429871
I think deep down Phil truly doesn't believe at least half the stuff he says and he just laughs it off because the $$$ talks and the anti-Tesla never-Muskers continue to donate and pay his rent and put bread on his table as long as he says how "shteupid Musk is with his shteupid shedule and outlandish rocket design that is no better than a Mercury-Redshtone"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:16:13 UTC No. 16429875
>>16429786
axiom is brankrupt, its over for them
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>>16429780
there arent any good options. axiom is kill, nasa doesnt want to rely on spacex derived hardware for everything, blue origin might be an option, starlab is too useless.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:16:47 UTC No. 16429877
>>16429856
I got this one too. Old vs new.
There's some kind of raw appeal to me about these phone camera shots through crappy binoculars. The framing imparts a neat vibe.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:17:06 UTC No. 16429878
Anybody got that recent video on rocket reuse that was posted here earlier today? I didn't watch it then but I'm bored now.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:18:01 UTC No. 16429879
fully expended FH tomorrow :(
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:18:55 UTC No. 16429881
>>16429863
do a flip
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:19:44 UTC No. 16429882
>>16429794
>BC -> AD -> AE
>We are living in an ancestral simulation created so an advanced civilization can understand themselves in the time of elon
ok whatever just pls giv >>16429795
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:21:02 UTC No. 16429883
so now that the dust has settled, the booster clearly wasnt in a reusable state after landing and it took them many years to get falcon to a state where it could be refurished in a practical way. So there is a long road ahead. we will probably not see reusable hardware until flight 15 at the earliest
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:21:22 UTC No. 16429885
>>16429816
I never do this but I need to commission a meme
The pool kid and skeleton meme but it's booster with ship at the bottom of the ocean
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:21:43 UTC No. 16429886
>>16429875
You forgot Vast, idjit
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:21:48 UTC No. 16429887
>>16429863
you spin a rotor really fast on the ground and match speeds with the spacecraft as it plummets to earth at orbital velocity, then grab it
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:22:23 UTC No. 16429888
>>16429819
Thats no moon...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:22:39 UTC No. 16429889
>>16429845
>We've been simulating mass as payloads
do you think a mass simulator is some machine that simulates the effects of mass???
It's a block of concrete lmao, it's a simulation of PAYLOAD mass
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:22:39 UTC No. 16429890
>>16429886
i didnt as they're the spacex derived hardware station that i was talking about
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:22:52 UTC No. 16429891
When is the next launch?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:23:40 UTC No. 16429893
>>16429863
Rotating orbital tethers
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:23:52 UTC No. 16429894
>>16429889
Mass simulator? More like massive payload simulator!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:24:59 UTC No. 16429895
>>16429883
Booster reuse before October 13th 2025, calling it now.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:25:12 UTC No. 16429896
>>16429891
I think I'm addicted to Starship launches
real life doesn't feel like anything anymore
and all I can think about is how to get my next launch
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:27:01 UTC No. 16429897
>>16429855
You're standing on a shilled video but it's not the high ground
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:27:23 UTC No. 16429898
It'd be funny if Elon decides to just reuse the booster after some repairs.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:29:33 UTC No. 16429899
>>16429846
Threadly reminder that harassing people like this is free
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:29:42 UTC No. 16429900
So what's to stop SpaceX from building a non-reusable Starship and marketing the system as heavy lift rocket with reusable first stage? Since they successfully recovered the booster, doesn't this mean that SLS is effectively obsolete? Seems like they could do the Artemis missions for much cheaper now.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:29:46 UTC No. 16429901
Now that the dust has settled, does Starship really have half a centimeter CEP?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:30:04 UTC No. 16429903
>>16429876
Hows orion's heat shield btw
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:32:31 UTC No. 16429907
>>16429895
Gonna need a booster worth reusing first. And that depends a lot on what kind of cadence they're allowed to have. Right now they're more valuable to take apart for post-mortem.
I think the first reuse will be either a tanker or a pez dispenser.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:34:34 UTC No. 16429908
future historians: the drone ships are named after some scifi books? the tower after a giant robot lizard? the falcons after some scifi kids movie? wtf was wrong with this company...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:35:21 UTC No. 16429909
>>16429704
Will they finally cancel SLS now?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:36:28 UTC No. 16429911
>>16429907
>Gonna need a booster worth reusing first.
I give it two flights until they return a booster that makes a reflight, within one year from today. I'm calling it.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:37:37 UTC No. 16429913
>>16429908
>future historians: THEY WERE CUTTING OFF THEIR KIDS' DICKS AND BOOBS
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:38:06 UTC No. 16429914
>>16429895
so youre saying they will reuse hardware from ift7 in ift8? seems a little early.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:44:18 UTC No. 16429917
>>16429908
Don't forget the BFR thing that was inspired by Doom games.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:50:13 UTC No. 16429923
>>16429917
And dont forget your dad who was inspired to suck my cock :D
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:56:20 UTC No. 16429926
>>16429909
askthis once starship can actually filfill any missions
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:57:16 UTC No. 16429927
>>16429704
Your reaction?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:59:20 UTC No. 16429928
>>16429906
I apologize, Gerst-sama. I wasn’t familiar with Starship’s game.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:00:24 UTC No. 16429929
>>16429927
i've never seen a cruise missile land. I was getting worried with how fast it was approaching the tower. If you told 1970 rocket scientists who landed on the moon we'd do this they would laugh.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:01:44 UTC No. 16429930
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:02:20 UTC No. 16429931
>>16429927
that dude on the left with his mouth agape and hands on his head? that was my same reaction. i checked the launch thread a time or two after the landing and it the thread was at a standstill. nobody posted for a bit after it landed, everyone was in shock i guess.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:02:40 UTC No. 16429932
>>16429927
lol I think I cycled through the four exact poses of the guys in the front from left to right
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:03:14 UTC No. 16429933
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:03:39 UTC No. 16429934
>>16429883
NASA used to fish out boosters from the sea and they wouldn't see another reuse for a year. This thing literally came back to the launch bad upright when most people would be satisfied letting it burn up in the atmosphere or becoming permanent space trash.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:04:38 UTC No. 16429935
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:06:11 UTC No. 16429936
>>16429927
>>16429932
Disbelief -> Amazement -> Celebration -> Joy
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:09:51 UTC No. 16429937
>>16429754
w autist
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:12:10 UTC No. 16429938
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:13:58 UTC No. 16429940
they catch starship with the chopsticks too right? i guess we're a ways away from that... maybe IFT-7 at the earliest.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:14:26 UTC No. 16429941
>>16429898
I could see them at least attempting to perform a full repair just to get a feel for how complex/costly it would be in case of future mishaps.
>>16429937
>no top flaps
Flawed design
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:15:06 UTC No. 16429942
>>16429937
Lewd
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:16:04 UTC No. 16429943
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:16:21 UTC No. 16429944
>>16429885
actually good idea
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:18:23 UTC No. 16429946
how long until falcons are caught like that too
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:18:33 UTC No. 16429947
>>16429754
artistic*
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:19:40 UTC No. 16429949
>>16429704
So what about the hotstaging ring? Doesn't that impact rapid reusability? Or are they just gonna make a ton of these things and keep chucking them into the ocean like frisbees?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:20:43 UTC No. 16429950
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:21:32 UTC No. 16429951
>>16429949
That's only temporary. The next version of starship (due for test 7) won't require an expendable ring.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:22:18 UTC No. 16429953
>>16429949
They're gonna make a new booster design with an integral hotstage.
It's not jettisoned for performance reasons despite what the black guy nigger said.
It ripped off due to aero loads on flight 3 and they won't bother fixing it when there's a new design coming
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:25:08 UTC No. 16429955
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18454
Simp
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:25:41 UTC No. 16429956
>>16429954
What will they do with Falcon 9? No way it's getting sunsetted.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:26:29 UTC No. 16429957
>>16429956
It will be reserved for the old customers. While Starlink will improve the Starship candence and reliability studies.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:26:40 UTC No. 16429958
People don't realize the extent to which Falcon CEP is cucked by its TWR.
Starship can be almost arbitrarily precise if you just go a bit slower in the final phase.
5mm position error is accurate.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:27:03 UTC No. 16429959
>>16429954
Even in denser areas? I am so tired of my ISP shitting the bed.
I already have starlink at my mountain cabin and it's so fucking good despite the poor coverage/FOV due to the nearby peaks.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:27:35 UTC No. 16429960
>>16429954
>there is a future where I can get off the Charter scam
the world is looking brighter
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:30:51 UTC No. 16429962
>>16429908
>Mechazilla
>An Absence of Gravitas
>Just Read the Instructions
The meaning is lost, but the words remain. It is likely some reference to early M3 life.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:31:45 UTC No. 16429964
>>16429908
The appeal of giant robot lizards is universal and timeless.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:33:23 UTC No. 16429966
>>16429927
I had just woke up, checked X, saw "SpaceX successfully catches Superheavy booster, watched it, and said "holy fuck" out loud. I probably had some dumb expression. Who cares, this is worth being excited over.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:34:22 UTC No. 16429967
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:34:39 UTC No. 16429968
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18456
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:37:58 UTC No. 16429970
>>16429967
>BDSM
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:38:41 UTC No. 16429971
>>16429970
>>16429967
what the fuck
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:40:48 UTC No. 16429973
>>16429968
Just inspected the Starship booster, which the arms have now placed back in its launch mount. Looks great!
A few outer engine nozzles are warped from heating & some other minor issues, but these are easily addressed.
Starship is designed to achieve reflight of its rocket booster ultimately within an hour after liftoff. The booster returns within ~5 minutes, so the remaining time is reloading propellant and placing a ship on top of the booster.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:41:06 UTC No. 16429974
>>16429970
Leon you scoundrel!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:42:44 UTC No. 16429976
>/pol/ doesnt believe that brilliant pebbles is possible
there are so many little minds in the world
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:45:21 UTC No. 16429977
>>16429973
Could you imagine like 20 launches in a single day
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:49:42 UTC No. 16429979
>>16429976
You are sourcing opinions from /pol/ and expect intelligent answers? The average IQ there is roomtemp of course they dont think BP is possible, a majority of them probably think the shuttle is still in service
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:50:09 UTC No. 16429981
>>16429956
No way, Crew Dragon will be around for a decade more at least
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:50:24 UTC No. 16429982
Daily reminder
There’s no reason for humans to go to Mars
Muskrat WILL lose
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:51:16 UTC No. 16429984
>>16429982
Its Felonious Husk, anon. You fucked it up, Muskrats are his followers
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:51:34 UTC No. 16429985
>>16429982
true
nuclear propulsion is the way
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:52:23 UTC No. 16429986
>>16429973
>A few outer engine nozzles are warped
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:53:16 UTC No. 16429987
>>16429985
I cant repost the same image but >>16429733
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:54:43 UTC No. 16429989
guys
GUYS
it worked
did you see it? it worked! They caught the booster!
Like jeez
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:55:25 UTC No. 16429990
>>16429988
Suborbital is currently more exciting than orbital. IDGAF
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:55:27 UTC No. 16429991
I’m drunk and I work for SpaceX, AMA
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:55:37 UTC No. 16429992
when the heavy booster landed, i unironically jumped out of my chair and screamed "KINO ALERT!!!!!!!" 3 times in a row while stomping my feet, and then i adjusted my underwear and sat back down. i am not even joking
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:55:42 UTC No. 16429993
>>16429988
so this is the power of FAA + hurricanes
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:55:47 UTC No. 16429994
>>16429957
>>16429981
What will Falcon's profitability be like with Starship at the helm? Both of them are designed to scale with their profitability being determined by launch cadence. How will they prevent Starship and Falcon from competing against on another initially?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:55:58 UTC No. 16429995
>>16429991
You know the rules, what's the froyo flavor of the day
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:57:26 UTC No. 16429998
>>16429989
Thats insane
>>16429991
Why do you like lying about where you work and is your makebelieve work location Starbase?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:57:28 UTC No. 16429999
>>16429986
so now we know why the nozzles were warped
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:57:40 UTC No. 16430000
>>16429991
Jessie or Kate?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:58:32 UTC No. 16430001
>>16429995
Pistachios
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:00:18 UTC No. 16430005
>>16429995
Methalox
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:00:47 UTC No. 16430007
>>16430000
Chris
>>16429998
I’m Jewish
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:04:31 UTC No. 16430012
>>16429877
Actually spectacular, great photo
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:04:41 UTC No. 16430014
Today was such a huge mental swing between
>come on, of course they can do it. They have mastered F9 landing ,and they have practiced SH booster burn
and
>IT’S GOING TO SWING INTO THE TOWER HOLY FUCKING SHIT NOOO
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:07:20 UTC No. 16430016
>>16429968
>>16429973
Question so, why an hour? Could a tanker dock with a depot, deposit its fuel, then undock all within an hour? Even if you could go that fast what would be the boil off difference if you launched once a day or once a week instead of once an hour?
The only other benefit I see is you wouldn't have to build a lot of stage zeros to launch starlink frequently. Unlike trucking fuel to the launch site, I doubt you can build a full stack of starlink satellites in an hour, so you couldn't even saturate one booster and one tower with starlink production.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:08:38 UTC No. 16430017
How much for a ride in the booster? Couldn't be that much right? After all compared to the weight of the whole thing a few people probably don't matter.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:10:34 UTC No. 16430018
why are people saying that the heavy stage is going to replace falcon 9? how can this big giant rocket be cheaper than a smaller one?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:11:33 UTC No. 16430020
>>16430015
Ahhh interesting. Wonder why it’s so weak. Must be a super thin sheet of metal that isn’t really fastened securely. At least not secure enough for shear wind force or whatever
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:12:49 UTC No. 16430022
>>16430018
Because in theory the only thing you pay for with for Starship and Superheavy is to produce more fuel to fly it again
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:13:02 UTC No. 16430023
>>16430018
Economy of scale or something.
Falcon 9 will still be a thing, but Starlink will move to Starship so I assume Falcon's flight cadence will decrease in the future.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:14:14 UTC No. 16430025
>>16430018
Because spacex found a way to brute force a super heavy lift rocket with sheet metal bound by super autistic welds instead of more expensive methods like milling or composite carbon fiber or whatever, they’re trying to drive engine costs down as low as possible, and the ability to be reused even more than falcon will drive internal costs down that much more after a booster or ship gets reused 20, 30, 50+ times eventually
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:14:49 UTC No. 16430026
>>16430018
Starship is replacing Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy when it's ready. In the future, they will only make and launch Starships
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:14:55 UTC No. 16430027
>>16430022
is starship able to deploy satellites? i thought it was like a big crew capsule
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:15:37 UTC No. 16430028
>>16430027
Yes
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:17:07 UTC No. 16430029
>>16430028
thanks, i'm guessing it deploys them like the shuttle did
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:18:02 UTC No. 16430030
>>16430018
Reuse and also manufacturing processes. Raw materials certainly account for a large amount of the cost but manhours to produce which is directly affected by how long it takes to make, certify, design, etc. the rocket cut heavily into it. Starships are atleast relatively easy to produce due to being made up of many easy to weld stainless steel rings, and the engines are also produced en masse with simplification/cost reduction happening all the time like with Raptor 3. Those are the very basic things we know, theres probably many orders of magntiudes more on cost cutting and stuff behind the scenes we dont know. They also choose to work that more on Starship than Falcon 9, they could probably get lower costs on F9 but theyve decided its better to make the SHLV and improve that instead.
>>16430027
How new are you again?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:18:44 UTC No. 16430032
>>16430018
Because one is fully reusable and one is not
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:18:53 UTC No. 16430033
>>16430027
They have a thing they call the pez dispenser that is optimized for spitting out giant stacks of starlinks that they already tested (not entirely successfully apparently, but nothing a little rapid iteration won't fix. The plan, unless it has changed, is to eventually have the option to open up and spit out larger payloads.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:19:03 UTC No. 16430034
>>16430029
No. Definetly not that way if its Starlink. And even for others it may open a different way.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:20:08 UTC No. 16430037
>>16430027
? Getting to orbit is the only real issue, everything else in space is trivial
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:20:36 UTC No. 16430038
>>16430033
The deployment door better end up being this good
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:20:50 UTC No. 16430039
>>16430016
Optimistically, Starship could only turn around once every 12 hours to launch into the same orbital plane anyway. The plan is to have many ships and fewer boosters. Orbital tanker ops could never occur hourly anyway, they'd be constrained to 12 hours at best, but probably 24. The fast turnaround is going to be for something else (starlink?).
Ideally, neither ship nor booster downtimes should be due to refurbishment. For the latter it would be the time takes to purge and retank and for the individual ships however long their orbital planes take to line up with the launch site for a catch.
Superheavy also doesn't need any manned ground operations to refly, it's locked into exactly the same configuration no matter what it launches whereas with Starships they'll have to have payloads integrated anyway.
Ultimately the launch cadence for a given pad will be constrained by how fast you can stack and tank one complete rocket. You can't cheat with Starship because of the above but if you start the clock with one Superheavy already on the chopsticks, you're already ahead by one stacking operation.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:21:35 UTC No. 16430043
>>16430015
chimes?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:22:06 UTC No. 16430045
>>16430030
>How new are you again?
my discord kitten told me about this so i came to see what was up
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:22:20 UTC No. 16430046
>>16430043
Raceways that run up the sides of the boostah
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:23:00 UTC No. 16430048
>>16430045
So youre from the sharty.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:23:37 UTC No. 16430049
>>16430038
They ultimately don't have a choice but to do it the clamshell way. If they do it like a door the hinges will be exposed and melt during reentry. If they do it like the shuttle the hinges will be exposed and melt on both sides during reentry. Having the hinge on the dorsal side is really the only way
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:24:27 UTC No. 16430050
>>16430035
If they nailed it the first try, then probably yeah. that shit was no fluke
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:24:37 UTC No. 16430051
>>16430048
no i left when /qa/ got shut down and the trannies migrated over
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:27:45 UTC No. 16430055
>>16430035
The two pins look small because the scale of booster, but it's actually 17cm in diameter, fucking huge.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:28:03 UTC No. 16430057
which comes first?
>catching the starship
>getting starship into orbit
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:30:23 UTC No. 16430058
>>16430057
Starship into orbit definitely. Docking starships to refuel them will be next priority, HLS won't even land back on earth with Starship so Elon doesn't really give a fuck about Starship recovery right now
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:30:54 UTC No. 16430060
>>16430049
you can put the hinge anywhere why is that a limiting factor?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:31:33 UTC No. 16430061
>>16429927
I almost söyfaded. Close call.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:31:36 UTC No. 16430062
It's wild how little margin the shuttle had. Starship seems to have a fuckton of margin, lose nearly entire flap hinge and you're fine
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:32:07 UTC No. 16430063
>>16430060
If you were thinking about putting it inside, that messes with your usable payload volume
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:32:29 UTC No. 16430064
>>16430057
Probably starship in orbit. They might also want to see what happens when they try to land it after spending N hours in space before attempting a catch.
>>16430055
>fucking huge.
Smaller than my cock
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:33:12 UTC No. 16430067
why didn't they land starship?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:33:56 UTC No. 16430068
Give it to me straight bros
With the amount of hate that Elon is getting both online and IRL, is there any chance that the government will try to come after his company's in order to bog them down/shut them down, or am I being a schizo?
I want to believe in an interplanetary future so bad...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:33:59 UTC No. 16430069
>>16429927
I came and shidded and farded
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:35:02 UTC No. 16430070
>>16430067
They would need to ask for a new license if they changed the Starship landing area. Even more months of delays.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:35:26 UTC No. 16430071
>>16430067
Had to kill a great white shark that was terrorizing the Indian Ocean. Mission accomplished.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:37:36 UTC No. 16430076
>>16430073
have u been sleeping for 80 years now greg? They nuked the entire public school system because of black peoples feelings back in the 50's...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:38:11 UTC No. 16430077
SpaceX is going to be broken apart once Kackling Kamala rigs the election and puts Elon Musk into prison, or handicaps him one way or another. Humanity is about to be set back by 20 years.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:38:54 UTC No. 16430078
>>16430076
huh?
>europoor
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:40:20 UTC No. 16430080
>>16429991
when is the next flight?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:41:03 UTC No. 16430082
>>16429743
>Why doesn't someone try to reinvent the space shuttle?
>Starship is literally a reinvented space shuttle.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:41:33 UTC No. 16430083
>>16430067
didn't feel like it
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:42:05 UTC No. 16430086
>>16429991
Is the pay really as bad as the job listings show?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:46:21 UTC No. 16430091
lmfao go check the starbase live stream right now, they are projecting mechazilla on the high bay and are all probably inside the bar getting W A S T E D
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:46:27 UTC No. 16430092
>>16429877
Nice, starship will be the equivalent of the galleon.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:47:00 UTC No. 16430094
>>16430077
Yes yes very interesting.... But answer me this one, singular question my boy, my lad. Take heed, it's quite an important question. Simple in nature, but quite profound you see. That question is.... Who?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:47:38 UTC No. 16430095
>>16429986
>>16429999
This is going to be the next major engineering hurdle. Yes, the booster came back, but it will need all its engines replaced before it can fly again. Might as well expend the booster, the engines are the most expensive part!
And with Raptor V3 being built, with no consideration for this new challenge, I worry we will have to wait for V4 before this issue is addressed.
All this makes me wish the team would halt production, address this and the other issues, and build new facilities with what they have learned so far. Launching one or two more V1 Starships seems useless, waiting another 2 years until this engine issue is fixed is pants-on-head.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:50:14 UTC No. 16430097
>>16430095
since only the outer engines were deformed, clearly the landing burn sequence could prevent it.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:50:52 UTC No. 16430099
>>16429991
Can you tell Juncosa to quit poaching our best people from the other teams? It'd be nice to keep making you guys money so you can keep advancing you tech.
I'm not mad, but like three of our guys have already gotten lured to South Texas and they're trying to get ME to go too.
Is Brownsville still a shithole with nothing to do? How cheap are the flights elsewhere if I want to fuck off to a normal climate for a weekend?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:51:14 UTC No. 16430101
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:52:14 UTC No. 16430102
>>16430101
you can see party lights and people inside the bar at the top of the bay
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:52:22 UTC No. 16430103
>>16430097
Maybe do a mid-flight entry burn like F9? I know SH was designed to not require it. Again, new designs to give it enough fuel, or a fix to prevent this to the engines.
Replacing 20 engines each flight is not better then all 33.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:55:00 UTC No. 16430104
>>16430103
it probably only requires chilling the outer engines despite not firing them
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:57:27 UTC No. 16430107
why do they waste so much fuel by venting it during re-entry? just keep it there to spend less on refueling
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:02:09 UTC No. 16430111
>>16430109
Whats the issue? Do you not like internet in space?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:03:26 UTC No. 16430115
>>16429991
I'm drunk and I have questions
What solution for the nozzle damage? Entry burn?
Buoy view (director's cut) when?
Tank cam when?
Have you guys found something better than wavelet compression for CFD yet?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:04:25 UTC No. 16430117
It’s kind of crazy to thing all the engineers at SpaceX can even pull off the feats they do considering the delusions they buy into. A human future on Mars? These people should know better than to believe Mars can be a life raft. Colonizing Mars for a billionaire? Privatizing space?
As someone who absolutely loves space exploration and discovery, I have to constantly run into the reality of what is going on here vs the wonder of the technology itself.
I don't hold it against the engineers for the current climate they have to work in. It's not their fault billionaires like their boss lobby our government to defund NASA and privatize space exploration for their own profits. These engineers just want to advance our exploration and knowledge of space.
But I'm also not a fan of blind, vague "hope" that ignores the reality of the situation, either.
Humanity will not survive our climate disaster by running off to Mars. Anyone who believes that is brainwashed, and there is reporting that at least some people who work at SpaceX do believe that. Which again, is beyond wild to me because these people are educated in the very field to the point they should be fully aware of how absurd the notion is. They know damned well Mars has no magnetic field, and that even a ruined Earth is more inhabitable and survivable due to the fact is has a magnetic field.... and every resource we've ever known already here.
Don't get up in my face with that "people who can actually build things" bullshit as if anyone who dare criticize SpaceX as a corporation and its shitty owner is some loser layabout who can't make anything or contributes nothing. It reeks of the very sort of ego I'm talking about.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:05:42 UTC No. 16430119
If youre in Brownsville and havent gone to Hopper Haus, GO THERE IMMEDIATLY AND GET THE TENDERS AND TACOS
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:06:20 UTC No. 16430121
>>16430111
i guess im just surprised that there are that many connections per module
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:07:35 UTC No. 16430124
>>16429804
>1g of artificial gravity
you don't need or even want 1g, earthgrub, you can live "normal" at .38g, shit even .2g and everything will work the same as down here, you'll even get a bump on your dumb noggin if you fall out of your bunk at .2g, so stop the "must build for 1g" retardation please
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:07:41 UTC No. 16430126
>>16430091
>you will NEVER get wasted with your team who just made spaceflight history
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:08:34 UTC No. 16430127
>>16429715
>he
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:08:41 UTC No. 16430128
>>16430119
tendie tacos with godzilla sauce is too californian for me
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:10:48 UTC No. 16430133
>>16430128
No nigger its tenders and tacos separately, or just get the tenders alone. Buffalo tenders are the best Ive EVER had, and the hardshell tacos have amazing meat and crunchy as fuck. Just try the tenders damn it.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:12:10 UTC No. 16430134
>>16430078
Kids graduate highschool in America now without the ability to read, add numbers, and with chronic absenteeism and never get punished for physical altercations with teachers or other students.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:12:35 UTC No. 16430137
>>16429813
this, one pseudo "starship" will be purpose built as a hub with a ring of docking ports around its waist, then you just dock more conventional design Starships to it like spokes to a hub and guess what if you array them symmetrically you can even give the whole thing a spin if you want
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:15:50 UTC No. 16430139
>>16429819
is this from a North Korean spy sub?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:16:40 UTC No. 16430140
>>16430139
No he was one of those fags on boats infront of Isla Blanca
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:16:48 UTC No. 16430141
wait if these rockets use methane as fuel, then does it mean i can sell my braps to spacex?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:17:48 UTC No. 16430143
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:20:06 UTC No. 16430147
>>16429927
Von Braun would be proud.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:24:26 UTC No. 16430154
>>16429822
>What kind of stress forces would we be talking about?
why can't you get it through your head that it's the exact same "stress forces" things experience here on the surface of the earth? There's nothing "magical" or "pretend" about your artificial gravity, whatever you spin up to 1g will have to be built as strong as something here on the surface of the earth that is suspended and built to be safe for humans to be around and traverse on and "park" vehicles on (you know like Dragon capsules) like a span of the Golden Gate Bridge or a similar object built to "float" unsupported by the surface of the fucking earth
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:24:34 UTC No. 16430155
>>16430152
Birds would not be alive at any of those altitudes anon.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:25:35 UTC No. 16430156
>>16430141
You could sell your braps to higher payers than SpaceX, especially if woman.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:26:14 UTC No. 16430158
>>16429778
they have to match the crew vehicles which all use Shuttle spec ports for now
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:27:37 UTC No. 16430159
>>16430152
what with those starlinks being so far out?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:29:05 UTC No. 16430161
>>16430126
someone dub carameldancing on this
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:30:51 UTC No. 16430162
so lets see, next launch will include:
>orbital insertion
>starship landing in the gulf
>starship recovery by ocean vessel
the mission after that is either:
>satellite deployment or orbital refuel
>starship landing at the tower
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:31:57 UTC No. 16430164
>>16429979
>a majority of them probably think the shuttle is still in service
Actually the /pol/ party line is that space is fake and gay. Also, apparently nukes don't exist.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:33:44 UTC No. 16430166
>>16430162
>>starship recovery by ocean vessel
How? Are they going to build a mini mechagodzilla on a huge barge? They probably can't safely attach flotation devices to it just after splashdown.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:33:47 UTC No. 16430167
>>16430126
I appreciate the doomposting but I absolutely have and am deeply proud of both my team and the party until 4am, not so proud that I basically missed my entire weekend due to the hangover
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:34:32 UTC No. 16430168
>>16430166
same way they recovered superheavy after it landed in the ocean
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:34:55 UTC No. 16430169
No videos/pictures of Elon's reaction? He's usually there for big milestones
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:35:33 UTC No. 16430170
>>16430166
>>16430168
i dont mean landing on a boat, i mean fishing it out of the water
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:38:22 UTC No. 16430174
>>16430169
>he actually thinks felonious cares about mars
OH NO NO NO
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:41:25 UTC No. 16430179
>>16430169
He was playing Diablo instead
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:42:34 UTC No. 16430181
>>16430169
there's a pic of him glued to his phone instead of watching
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:43:18 UTC No. 16430182
>>16430169
Towards the end of the stream. He was busy posting in the sticky.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:46:53 UTC No. 16430183
>>16429780
its called "Commercial LEO destinations" plural. of course they will have multiple contracts. Probably all 3 of them (4 with axiom that isnt part of CLPS) if they dont go bust first.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:49:38 UTC No. 16430185
wait there was an anomaly with crew 8's deorbit?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:51:43 UTC No. 16430186
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:54:05 UTC No. 16430187
>>16430062
They're launching it with half a dozen heat tiles missing for data each time too.
Space shuttle was made of aluminium and was supposed to be a prototype. It wasn't supposed to fly actual missions but gubnment/NASA shenanigans.
A lot to be said for steel skin. Design choices in NASA are amazing feats of engineering but that whole space pen parable definitely applies (even if it's not technically accurate, autists.).
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:55:21 UTC No. 16430188
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:55:39 UTC No. 16430189
>>16429949
at launch the four "gridfins" should be vertical and act as a "hot staging ring", (yes, each one could even be curved and form 1/4 of a 9m ring) then after separation they should rotate down to horizontal and act as gridfins
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:57:30 UTC No. 16430192
>>16430182
>that creature sitting next to him
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:57:52 UTC No. 16430193
this new vast station is impressive. it transitions very well from dragon to starship.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:58:19 UTC No. 16430194
>>16430184
>reputable media outlets
>BBC
>NYT
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:59:01 UTC No. 16430195
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 03:59:23 UTC No. 16430196
>>16430158
Yea but the ports that just connect station modules to each other could be larger.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:00:34 UTC No. 16430197
>>16430166
They need landing legs for the moon and Mars. Tower catch is not strictly necessary.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:00:58 UTC No. 16430198
>>16429976
>>16429979
>>16430164
you sound like young pompous jew nerds, scram
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:01:40 UTC No. 16430199
>>16430196
same problem, it's all one port design so crew can dock to a half built station
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:02:40 UTC No. 16430200
>>16430198
>defending /pol/s intelligence
Do you also buy in to flat earth?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:04:07 UTC No. 16430202
>>16430201
EVA egress, very similar to the ISS.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:04:17 UTC No. 16430203
>>16430201
it is a cupola, those are window protectors
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:05:59 UTC No. 16430206
>>16430201
The top "door" is just a movable MMOD shield for the big window at the top of the cupola.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:07:03 UTC No. 16430207
>>16430200
>flat earth
that's a JIDF psy-op to discredit the valuable JQ education being provided by /pol/ to the naïve world at large, but you know that don't you Seth
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:07:24 UTC No. 16430208
>>16430201
Its just a cupuola. Watch the video on Twitter, its a modified Haven-1 basically. I put up a summary at the start of the bread
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:08:58 UTC No. 16430209
>>16430203
>>16430206
>>16430208
so its a cupola? did they say why? there are already two windows per module arent there?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:09:05 UTC No. 16430210
>>16430207
Does anyone know what this fag is talking about? This just seems like CIA schizophrenia from a /pol/ escapee to me
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:09:35 UTC No. 16430211
>>16430199
You just have to plan the construction better. Launch the first module with one small port and one big port, then expand on it from there.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:10:06 UTC No. 16430212
>>16430209
Ill scan the Vast article they put up, I forgor to read that earlier
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:11:47 UTC No. 16430214
>>16430169
His busy getting wasted and dancing to techno right now "in da club"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:14:09 UTC No. 16430217
>>16430210
>HELP I'm being attacked by an anti-semite, help me JIDF!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:17:41 UTC No. 16430222
>>16430212
>>16430209
Nothing about why, but they say 16 total windows from the Haven-2 module stations.
Also side note to the fag that said Haven-2 modules cant fit in Starship, its literally the same diameter as Haven-1 but 5 meters longer, it guaranteed fits in Starship. Its the core module thats 7m diameter, so I dont know how but you seem to have gotten your info mixed up.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:19:01 UTC No. 16430227
>>16430225
We as in 4ASS or we as in humanity
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:19:08 UTC No. 16430228
why do i never see any sign of intelligence from frogposter posts? curious...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:19:26 UTC No. 16430229
>>16430207
>/pol/
>providing valuable education
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:20:13 UTC No. 16430233
>>16430222
can haven-2 be launched with falcon 9/h?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:22:12 UTC No. 16430235
>>16430225
>>16430227
4ASS Smallsat Deployment System
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:22:21 UTC No. 16430236
>>16430229
I kekd
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:22:54 UTC No. 16430237
>>16430233
foust says falcon heavy
>Haven-2 will start with a single module launched on a Falcon Heavy as soon as 2028.
https://spacenews.com/vast-releases
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:24:38 UTC No. 16430239
>If selected in 2026, Vast plans to have the first module of Haven-2, an evolved and NASA-certified version of Haven-1, fully operational in orbit by 2028.
>"if"
hmm...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:25:25 UTC No. 16430242
>>16430233
Not 100% but I lean towards no. Picrel was original Haven-1 design, not sure if the black area at the bottom is ‘empty’ space but even then that 5m is too much considering average human is 1.63m tall and you can see a comparison there. Again final design has changed but I dont think the overall structure dimensions have enough to allow this extra height to fit.
Does anyone know of FH fairings are longer than F9 or are they the same?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:26:26 UTC No. 16430244
>>16430237
Oh damn. My bad I guess it is FH. Damn how do they fit that bitch on there then? You can see >>16430242 and it doesnt look like it would
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:27:11 UTC No. 16430247
>>16430242
FH uses the same fairings for now, it's only used for more energetic orbits or denser payloads (or both, like the roadster).
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:28:11 UTC No. 16430248
>>16430244
dont forget the two dorms. has to be custom fairings or none.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:31:02 UTC No. 16430252
EnSOULadus vs Your-Rope-ACK!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:31:24 UTC No. 16430253
who is GARY CHURCH and why is he so funny in the SpaceNews comments
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:41:07 UTC No. 16430262
>>16430247
god I can't wait for Starship Heavy
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:00:42 UTC No. 16430286
>>16429754
imagine being so autistic that you can't enjoy anime girls themed after your favorite things
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:03:59 UTC No. 16430291
>>16430286
I can't enjoy anime girls in general.
Every time a female speaks in an anime, I want to cover my ears to stop hearing her screeching, high-pitched, whiny voice. I have no idea how people find it endearing or arousing when an anime girl screams "ONIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII-C
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:04:53 UTC No. 16430293
>>16429708
Is that thing really stuck together with tiny little APAS-derived docking ports?
We need to quickly standardize a normal-sized docking/berthing port for normal-sized starships, before someone actually builds something that stupid.
You can keep IDSS and/or CBM adapters on some of the exposed ports to dock legacy vehicles, but when you want to expand the station by docking a new module, you'll get a full-sized hallway you can move cargo/furniture/etc. through, instead of a tiny manhole.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:07:33 UTC No. 16430295
>>16430291
I get a little chub when they speak
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:07:58 UTC No. 16430296
>>16429991
does anybody on the team have a practiscore page and who is your best shooter
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:09:39 UTC No. 16430298
>>16430029
>>16430027
they haven't designed the cargo bay doors yet for the cargo version
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:18:16 UTC No. 16430306
europa clipper tomorrow.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:22:01 UTC No. 16430311
>>16429956
It's going to take a very long time to get starship human rated, falcon 9 crew will have a job.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:24:12 UTC No. 16430314
>>16430308
>are ya winning, son?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:25:53 UTC No. 16430319
>>16430316
yeah well how long until military ballistic missiles first stages start returning to launch site?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:27:48 UTC No. 16430321
>>16430319
That's a different set of constraints. No civilian payload ever takes longer to integrate than a rocket takes to refill with liquid propellant.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:29:25 UTC No. 16430322
>>16430035
the arms actually bounce off the booster multiple times, they have cushioning
>>16430015
>>16430043
>>16430046
the word is "chines", with an 'n'
>>16430220
stupid frogposter
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:32:23 UTC No. 16430326
Still todo:
Deorbit burn
Catch ship
Prop transfer (full scale)
Starlink/Pez deployment
Reflight booster
Reflight ship
Chomper variant
Tanker variant
Depot variant
Starship V2
Starship V3 (longship?)
Raptor V3
HLS life support/crew cabin, air lock, etc
HLS hot gas thrusters
Landing legs for P2P/Mars/Moon
Anything I'm missing? SpaceX wants to go to the Moon uncrewed next year. I don't think that's possible, since they need to master prop transfer, meaning multiple ships and probably booster and ship full reuse, meaning ship catching. Idk if the uncrewed HLS will have the full get up of HLS requirements like legs or airlocks etc, but they def need all the other stuff
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:33:21 UTC No. 16430327
>>16430326
launch from cape is a big one. gotta convince NASA that 39a next door won't blow up.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:36:39 UTC No. 16430330
>>16430327
They have 3 towers but only 1 launch mount. The launch mount took so long to get set up. And all are outdated designs too thanks to learning from current stage 0. Ofc the eventual towers must be taller and mounts uprated for Raptor 3, chopsticks shorted, etc
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:37:18 UTC No. 16430331
>>16429767
V3?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:38:54 UTC No. 16430335
>>16430332
do it faggot, see what happens
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:39:12 UTC No. 16430336
>>16430332
no stop
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:41:40 UTC No. 16430340
>>16430332
kek
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:42:51 UTC No. 16430341
>>16430039
>Optimistically, Starship could only turn around once every 12 hours to launch into the same orbital plane anyway.
Short-term: If doglegging to equatorial reduces propellant delivered to orbit by 75%, but lets you launch 12x as often, you're still filling it up 3x faster.
Long-term: If you're sending dozens of starships to mars, park them (or depots they will rendezvous with) in appropriate orbits, and cycle through them every 24 hours.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:44:30 UTC No. 16430345
>>16430326
I think Ship V2 might be required for ship catching, since the hinge burn through will need to be resolved befire ship can fly over populated areas
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:45:33 UTC No. 16430346
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/184
>One bit of news from the briefing: SpaceX's Julianna Scheiman says the Crew-9 F9 upper stage anomaly took place when the Merlin engine ran 500 milliseconds longer than planned on its deorbit burn, causing the reentry outside the designated zone.
nothingburger anomaly
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:45:36 UTC No. 16430347
>>16430345
if you live under a starship flight path, tough luck. should have thought of that before you moved there bro. I see it the same as people that complain about noise when living next to an airport.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:46:44 UTC No. 16430348
>>16430342
1 million sfgs on /sci/ by 2050
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:48:13 UTC No. 16430352
>dutch troon seething about /pol/ again
you love to see it
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:48:27 UTC No. 16430353
whats next for starlink after direct to cell and gigabit speeds?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:48:45 UTC No. 16430355
>>16430039
they can't access the second chance for the orbital plane from Boca Chica, only a few inclinations are available
also the second pass for the orbital plane is not 12 hours apart, because it's a shallow slice off of the wave and not down the middle
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:48:57 UTC No. 16430356
>>16430352
Haha I’m not him. It’s just funny we have 3 sfgs in the catalog at the moment.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:50:18 UTC No. 16430357
>>16430347
Not even the top fag mayor pete can save spacex on this one. sorry
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:50:42 UTC No. 16430358
>>16430353
$5.99 a month for 24/7 monitoring of your property with starlink stats that have cameras onboard.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:56:45 UTC No. 16430364
>>16429863
That telescoping rocket catcher on rails that some guy came up with in the 50s or 60s.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:02:40 UTC No. 16430369
thunderf00t's stream is an incredible watch, cope from start to finish. Bringing up the incorrect mercury levels and claiming even after correction they were a thousand times above the limit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:07:19 UTC No. 16430373
>>16430369
>21:40
>so stunned from this point that he is speechless on the landing for 2, maybe 3 minutes.
The cope was palpable. Honestly feels so good.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:08:16 UTC No. 16430374
>>16430369
if musk can create mercury by spraying water on a hot stainless steel plate, he deserves whatever he wants. that's fucking transmutation.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:13:52 UTC No. 16430376
>>16430369
>the comment section
Wow I am amazed we are even allowed to post comments at this point. Complete and utter seethe at his denial of this event. Every single one is trashing his take. Glorious.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:23:26 UTC No. 16430379
>>16430369
not gonna watch that, but the comment section is hilarious.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:31:43 UTC No. 16430382
>>16430376
>>16430379
This is 180 from his earlier launch streams, most comments were EDS retards. Cracks were forming in his IFT4 stream. Thunderf00t has slowly gained an audience of people who mock him, but does he care? he gets views either way.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:32:32 UTC No. 16430383
>>16429812
>>16430124
Mars gravity is not enough to sustain normal bodily functions or childhood development.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:33:15 UTC No. 16430384
>>16430380
No Elon, no SpaceX. The company will shit the bed when he's gone, nd it will be sad to watch
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:39:24 UTC No. 16430389
>>16430380
It was Elon who refused to have legs on the ship and several other key engineering decisions. Without Elon, SpaceX would only be 5+ years ahead of the competition instead of a potential 20+ years
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:39:24 UTC No. 16430390
>>16430380
It's reminds me of the stupidest argument I read..
>Nationalize Spacex and give it to NASA
Retards thinking congress who have put the space industry in the state it's currently in would not imminently order NASA to cannibalize Spacex and sell it off to ULA/Boeing/Lockheed to pack the pork barrel. The lack of understanding from anti-musk 'intellectuals' makes me sometimes wonder who between them and Musk needs to touch grass more.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:40:09 UTC No. 16430392
>>16430380
If they did that SpaceX would fall apart and they would stop all aspirational goals, go public and start the death spiral of chasing permanent profit growth.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:40:26 UTC No. 16430394
>>16430388
5 years yes, but they are trying to do it in 1
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:41:04 UTC No. 16430395
>>16430380
What's with seethe-oids and using dissembling English insults like "bell end"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:43:11 UTC No. 16430397
>>16430394
There are plenty of mouth breathing retards here who think it wont happen until after 2030. Also no they aren't. Artemis 2 is still a year out.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:44:51 UTC No. 16430399
>>16430397
I think 3 years for uncrewed landing. 6-7 for crewed
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:45:02 UTC No. 16430400
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:45:22 UTC No. 16430402
>>16430388
the moon landing is supposed to happen long before 2029
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:46:37 UTC No. 16430403
>>16430399
Why would it ever take that long?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:46:39 UTC No. 16430404
>>16430332
Frogs are synonymous with ironic ragebait
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:51:47 UTC No. 16430407
>>16430403
Because >>16430326
As of now, the only HLS-exclusive hardware has been an elevator and air lock mockup.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:56:54 UTC No. 16430411
>>16430406
stupid frogposter
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:59:24 UTC No. 16430415
>>16430414
You are a nigger
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 06:59:36 UTC No. 16430416
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:02:23 UTC No. 16430417
>>16430308
im i forgotten........
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:02:35 UTC No. 16430418
>>16430411
Answer the question fairyfag
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:04:12 UTC No. 16430420
>See the clip of the catch from the top of the tower
>Remember someone asked Elon to put a camera up there
Anyone know where that tweet is
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:04:19 UTC No. 16430421
>>16430415
star ship is a black girl
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:04:56 UTC No. 16430422
>>16430418
faggot
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:12:02 UTC No. 16430431
did I miss a heavy launch or was that delayed? BO today right?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:12:40 UTC No. 16430433
>>16430407
>>16430326
Think about everything they have done since starhopper and then think about how much work they have been doing not in the public eye.
>HLS life support/crew cabin, air lock, etc
Will be very similar to dragon systems, and have been worked on since the HLS award 3 years ago, so I would assume this will be something that basically appears out of nowhere for the public observers
>HLS hot gas thrusters
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/14077544
>Landing legs for P2P/Mars/Moon
I don't see how this would take a year.
As for everything else it's not all neccesary, propellent transfer is the bottleneck and SpaceX doesn't seem concerned. They can expend ships to get the job done.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:13:50 UTC No. 16430435
>>16430402
Plenty of people here think itll be after 2030
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:14:26 UTC No. 16430436
>>16430433
Boo hiss
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:16:54 UTC No. 16430439
>>16430431
everybody fooken scrubbed except for Starship
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:18:20 UTC No. 16430441
>>16429794
Imagine some EDS gets teleported to 2462 and they measure the year by Elons birthday LOL they would have a conniption.
I agree btw, will prob happen.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:19:20 UTC No. 16430443
>>16430441
Hey dildo, answer the question >>16430406
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:28:10 UTC No. 16430446
>>16430443
What happens if you miss one day
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:30:12 UTC No. 16430448
>>16430446
Banished to Compton, Urf
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:37:59 UTC No. 16430452
>>16430388
Because still needs dozens of launches, best case, to get a working Starship, depot, tankers, Moon space station and lander.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:45:44 UTC No. 16430455
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:47:54 UTC No. 16430457
>>16430436
Ok but just imagine what kind of ludicrous mission would require fully expending a starship+super heavy. That would be like 'oh fuck asteroid' levels of needing a ton of delta v in a single launch.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:50:06 UTC No. 16430459
>>16430448
That seems fair. Alright I accept.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:53:46 UTC No. 16430461
>>16430454
Jessie is my belter waifu
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:03:08 UTC No. 16430468
>>16429877
>it's been a long road
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:08:16 UTC No. 16430475
>>16430471
Cum from the future when everyone watched the booster be caught.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:08:38 UTC No. 16430476
>>16430471
it was me, i couldn't hold it in when they caught the booster
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:17:41 UTC No. 16430484
>>16430383
>source: ripped violently from my rectum
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:20:12 UTC No. 16430486
>>16430457
It really wouldn't be worth it unless there was something with an absolutely irreducible payload mass (an unfueled nuclear reactor with integral shielding) or an instantaneous launch window (the asteroid) and even then you would have people asking why it had to be done in one launch when you could do it with two reusable ones instead
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:29:24 UTC No. 16430501
>>16430484
It's true. Next time you have to shit, try it in reduced gravity. The turd just won't break free.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:32:05 UTC No. 16430507
>>16430433
You're entitled to your opinion. I've been following SpaceX closely for a decade and I stand by my prediction. Screencap it if you like. I'm not clowning on SpaceX/Elon or being cynical, I'm interpreting based on what minute knowlege I do have about SpaceX achievements and past performance to come to a realistic number.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:32:07 UTC No. 16430508
>>16430505
ask them what it's like to have friends
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:33:45 UTC No. 16430510
>>16430454
Jessie on that ozempic grindset
>>16430471
Transmutation of concrete and water into mercury, poisoning the grounds for eons
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:34:14 UTC No. 16430511
I still feel the actual ship should be able to land on the ground like it did originally, especially if it’s going to mars and etc
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:34:27 UTC No. 16430512
>>16430486
Did you forget that Skylab, a Saturn V 3rd stage with a few solar panels, life support systems and shielding weighted almost 80t ? When Moon base Alpha starts building it will need huge modules, with probably nuclear power, moon rovers, airlocks, heavy scientific equipment and many many other things that easily weights +100t
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:51:36 UTC No. 16430526
>>16430507
I agree, but it's less to do with SpaceX capabilities and more to do with the slow bureaucracy of the US government in granting SpaceX permission to fly humans and OLD space hold on congress that will lead to unnecessary obstacles and roadblocks. SpaceX would be taking people to Mars before 2030 if the US wasn't a corrupt oligarchy.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:02:37 UTC No. 16430532
>>16430531
Both NASA and SpaceX knew that those dates were unrealistic. Only armchair experts like him care about that shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:05:03 UTC No. 16430536
>>16430531
to be fair to thunderf00t Starship should've already landed on the moon 4 years ago...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:05:18 UTC No. 16430537
What did the Chinese think about the catch? We already got a slice of the Japanese perspective last thread.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:13:18 UTC No. 16430540
>>16430531
>says starship has no customers
>proceeds to post details regarding a customer
what did the moron king of debooonkers mean by this?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:14:42 UTC No. 16430542
What will Muskrats do when rechudlicans lose the all 3 branches of government and Felon is thrown in prison and SpaceX is nationalized
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:16:41 UTC No. 16430544
>>16430537
They realized they are still trying to replicate a Falcon 9 while SpaceX is in his second generation of reusable rockets ...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:16:52 UTC No. 16430546
>>16429719
>Boring, where's my artificial gravity ring?
no real need in orbit or traveling to mars
you need it for extended missions, i.e., several years
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:26:11 UTC No. 16430551
>>16429719
Spin it this way
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:26:17 UTC No. 16430552
How do you solve the problem of Earth-Mars transfer orbit duration without using a nuclear engine ? It is currently at 7-8 months.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:26:58 UTC No. 16430553
>>16430552
How will you solve this Muskrat??>>16430542
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:30:01 UTC No. 16430556
>>16430454
needs an edit or something idk I'm not creative enough
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:30:07 UTC No. 16430557
>>16430552
isnt it 3 months for starship with a full tank of gas?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:37:38 UTC No. 16430564
>>16430531
According to NASA, the next goal is uncrewed landing. Why is he seething so hard? SpaceX is cool! I think somebody should beat Thunderf00t's ass. When I grew up if you run your mouth like a fool one too many times you got taught a lesson
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:40:49 UTC No. 16430570
>>16430557
ummm , no . Using a typical hoffman transfer (the most fuel efficient) is 7-8 months . Maybe if you use a more fuel intensive manoeuvre (waiting for Earth to be slightly closer to Mars ans burning for longer ) it could cut it to 5-6 months maybe ? But then a new problem arises , you will enter Mars at probably 12-13 km/s ... HOT
Either way, half a year in interplanetary space is not good.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:40:52 UTC No. 16430571
>>16429804
Looks like about 30 m radius
Anything over 2 RPM would look and feel stupid. You don't want to see the stars and planet whizzing by non-stop, you want them to glide by majestically.
From spincalc that gives you about lunar gravity, with about 6 m/s tip speed
If you increase it to 3 RPM that gives you approximately martian gravity, with 10m/s tip speed
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:41:52 UTC No. 16430572
>>16430035
Statistically speaking, I'm sure that there will someday be a catch failure.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:43:43 UTC No. 16430573
>>16430035
>so little margin for error every single time
There is actually a lot of margin for error. 10 meters. The arms will go to the rocket wherever it is. This is why I was confident this landing will succeed.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:45:08 UTC No. 16430575
>>16430570
>hoffman transfer
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:47:02 UTC No. 16430578
>>16430575
what is the problem ?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:47:36 UTC No. 16430580
>>16429927
impressive very nice
lets see jeff bezos rocket
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:50:20 UTC No. 16430586
>>16430578
It's "Huffman transfer"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:55:32 UTC No. 16430590
https://x.com/stillgray/status/1845
>Elon to be Secretary of Cost-Cutting under Trump admin
>Elon promised Trump he would get us to Mars by the end of his term
Apologies for the Ching Chang Chong post. I wonder how much fat Elon can cut in the executive branch, should be interesting. On the Mars subject, is this not exactly verbatim what Zubrin used to fantasize about?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:00:29 UTC No. 16430593
>>16430586
actually is Hohmann transfer
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:03:02 UTC No. 16430597
>>16430590
Have they even designed life support and the interior of the ship ? This would take nasa decades to do I doubt Elon can do it in 5
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:05:30 UTC No. 16430599
Now you know why the FAA, under the direction of this corrupt admin, wanted IFT5 in late November, after the election was over. They did not want Elon (and Trump by extension) to have another big win before election day. But the FEMA/Starlink disaster and bad press forced Biden's handler's hand. Buttyjudge and Elon worked out a deal, no more clowning on FEMA in exchange for cutting FAA red tape. Maybe the admin hoped the landing would fail and use it against Musk. It's no coincidence too that Tesla had their product unveil the sane week. Trump shifting positive in the polls, Elon literally paying people cold hard cash to get voters registered in PA. Elon is going scorched Earth, and the Earthers have underestimated him yet again.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:06:38 UTC No. 16430600
>>16430597
they did Crew Dragon in 5
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:14:15 UTC No. 16430605
>>16430531
>Orbital launch test
Coming up next. Shouldn't be difficult at all.
>Propellant transfer test
Now this will require 2 Starships in orbit at once, which will be very interesting.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:15:39 UTC No. 16430607
>>16429715
>"At least I still have hyperloop"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:15:52 UTC No. 16430610
>>16430604
imagine working flight traffic control for it
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:19:02 UTC No. 16430613
>>16429863
A Chinese village catches the stage.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:21:18 UTC No. 16430617
>>16429715
>Fooled my stupid audience once again
>Little do they know I am a first round investor in SpaceX
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:22:56 UTC No. 16430618
>>16429715
He's turning into a founding father
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:31:10 UTC No. 16430625
>>16430599
feels kinda sad this whole launch was Trump's political stunt
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:31:48 UTC No. 16430626
>>16429900
Cause spacex doesn't want to do that, they want the whole thing to be reusable.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:32:11 UTC No. 16430627
>>16430599
>Tesla had their product unveil the sane week.
which product did Tesla unveil
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:34:10 UTC No. 16430629
>>16429739
You know it's real because it looks so fake.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:39:49 UTC No. 16430636
>>16430627
Optimus Prime the bot, only seen friggin everywhere..
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:47:26 UTC No. 16430643
did ift5 use raptor 2s?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:53:48 UTC No. 16430646
>>16430643
It’s “Starship flight test 5” also known on the patch as “Flight 5,” and yes it used Raptor 2s
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:01:04 UTC No. 16430654
>>16430035
Look up how farmers use their tractors, anon.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:03:11 UTC No. 16430655
>>16430433
I dunno. So far SpaceX has been really just throwing everything at one problem at a time. Only thing running in parallel was the engine development.
Our first glimpse at their payload dispenser pretty much confirms this as it was was incredibly rudimentary two flights ago.
I'm really not expecting a full life support interior just coming out of stealth, ready to use, based on what we've seen so far.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:05:31 UTC No. 16430656
>>16430057
>>16430058
>>16430064
They can't catch Starship unless it's already in orbit. Rotation of the Earth would put the launch site out of reach by the time it comes around
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:06:51 UTC No. 16430657
>>16430062
>lose nearly entire flap hinge and you're fine
yeah but you would be kilometers off from the tower requiring a bailout before landing
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:11:06 UTC No. 16430661
>>16430117
you can solve the climate problem on Earth AND go to Mars at the same time you know
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:12:15 UTC No. 16430663
Is it true that all main sequence stars generally appear white to the naked eye? Even the K and M type stars? I wouldn't have a 2700K lamp hovering over the sky during the day if the sun was replaced with such a star at an equivalent distance to receive the same amount of solar energy?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:14:11 UTC No. 16430665
>>16430646
Was this the first flight to use Raptor 2?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:14:56 UTC No. 16430666
>>16430162
>starship landing in the gulf
wasn't there a deal signed with Australia regarding starship recovery?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:19:19 UTC No. 16430673
>>16429949
ring gets hotstaged because the booster is so much above design weight that the landing tanks arent big enough to carry it back to the pad
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:22:18 UTC No. 16430678
>>16429970
There is no way to sugarcoat this...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:25:12 UTC No. 16430683
>>16430406
why are frogposters so gay?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:26:22 UTC No. 16430689
>>16429934
they recovery was mindblowing, im not dispuiting that. but the thing is clearly not reusable without extensive work. i would go as far to say that its more damaged than any recovered falcon ever was. not doing an entry burn clearly exposed it to some shit. very very far from the goal of 'inspect, refuel and go'
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:27:26 UTC No. 16430694
>>16430643
>>16430646
>>16430665
they've been using Raptor 2s since ift-1
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:28:03 UTC No. 16430696
>>16429973
Will that particular booster fly again?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:31:02 UTC No. 16430701
>>16430696
Wouldn't hold my breath. Engines that didn't warp will likely get ripped off for firing tests, engines that did warp will likely get sliced up for material testing.
And the booster itself took some damage on the landing burn.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:33:44 UTC No. 16430706
>>16430436
I don't even mind it. Steel is cheap, their engines are cheap and plentiful, and it'll be hundreds of tons to LEO or a really big probe to anywhere quick
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:34:01 UTC No. 16430708
>>16430033
>LUVOIR
>HabEx
Brings a tear to the eye
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:36:35 UTC No. 16430711
>>16430552
What's the problem? That's a normal ISS stay in an ISS sized space
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:37:45 UTC No. 16430715
>4 people per module
>8 modules + 1 core module
are they really going to put 32 people on the vast station?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:38:27 UTC No. 16430717
>>16430663
your dad generally appears white to the naked eye because hes high caste. about stars, im not so sure.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:38:52 UTC No. 16430719
>>16430505
bump
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:39:57 UTC No. 16430722
>>16430715
nope. internal volume is only a quater of the challenge. look at historical space stations.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:41:35 UTC No. 16430728
>>16430505
>"bubbly, fun, quirky"
sayit with a straight face and you will get hired. its a shit test.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:41:44 UTC No. 16430729
>>16430722
how many you thinking then?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:43:42 UTC No. 16430730
>>16429986
two problems here
:1 leaking methane burning adding extra heat
:2 the outer engine being exposed to higher wind speed
I think they need to lower the skirt so the engine aren't as exposed.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:44:24 UTC No. 16430731
>>16430702
Pass-fail is not the way to rate these events. Some of them are true pass or fail items, but the important ones are on a spectrum, and should be given a score of 0 - 100, with annotation detailing reason why points were deducted from one milestone to the next. Also Wikipedia, turned to shit about a decade ago, at the same time everything else on the internet went to shit. I wonder who is responsible?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:44:43 UTC No. 16430733
>>16430728
What is a shit test and why does HR do them
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:49:19 UTC No. 16430737
>>16430731
>I wonder who is responsible?
oh I know this one! It's (you)!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:50:09 UTC No. 16430738
>>16430599
>Trump shifting positive in the polls
no he isnt. all they are doing is spamming biased polls to give the impression they are wiggling the average. neutral pollers have shown no shift. You fell for the most basic smoke and mirror trick there is
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:16:38 UTC No. 16430755
>>16430730
Maybe the engine nozzle can be made from thicker steel
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:20:57 UTC No. 16430761
>>16430095
retarded post, guy
lurk more and post less
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:23:47 UTC No. 16430764
>>16430117
>hello fellow spaceflight enthusiasts
get raped
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:26:17 UTC No. 16430765
Ship 31 don't even got the new ablative layer on it and that shit takes a month to replace. Someone tell me why the Block 1 ship will ever fly again.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:27:01 UTC No. 16430766
>>16430666
I dunno if anything was decided about that but surely shipping starships back to the US would take way too long, especially if you want rapid reusability.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:29:12 UTC No. 16430770
>>16430730
Would any of that be a problem if these were raptor 3s though?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:29:23 UTC No. 16430771
>>16430730
The engine fires, bell damages, and landing with skirt on fire will continue until Raptor 3 is ready to fly, unfortunately.
Prepare for the next several boosters to return with damage, probably well into next year.
Needs a major redesign to fix it.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:30:21 UTC No. 16430773
>>16430771
so how will they fix the bell damage with raptor 3?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:30:26 UTC No. 16430774
>>16429874
In other words, he's a grifter. Agreed.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:34:42 UTC No. 16430778
>>16430771
Active cooling with cryogenics during ass-end heating, for all 33 engines, not just the ones that are operating.
Also tweaked flight profiles, shielding, redesign of the structure itself for aerodynamics.
Now they know for sure which points got absolutely roasted, and finalize the corrective action.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:39:44 UTC No. 16430779
>>16430326
They would have already done it if not for the years of regulatory delays
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:42:38 UTC No. 16430784
Did Starship botch its landing? Telemetry had it going 50 kph when it "touched down".
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:43:16 UTC No. 16430786
>>16430353
More coverage and higher density, send more traffic through space, etc
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:43:50 UTC No. 16430788
>>16430784
nah it looked great
you could even see a couple frames as it came softly down on to the water where the engines were still lit underwater
was epic
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:47:31 UTC No. 16430795
Its been 24 hours now, and I am still euphoric.
Get that cadence up, I never wanna come down!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPB
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:47:32 UTC No. 16430797
>>16430755
aren't they made from high nickel alloys or something
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:48:34 UTC No. 16430798
>>16430784
They came at more of an angle than they did last time so the were translating a lot but the speed dropped down to 6-7kph before the telemetry started showing the ship icon tilting over
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:53:00 UTC No. 16430802
Just got done with the HR interview and she really did ask me what would your ex-coworkers say about you.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:54:25 UTC No. 16430804
>>16430788
>>16430798
Yeah I watched it again, it actually looked alright. Just a bit odd. It was still going 50 for a few seconds and only completely decelerated during the last second or two before the engines turned blue-green from the water. At first I thought the water decelerated it but since the color was a dead giveaway, I guess I can lay that to rest.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:55:31 UTC No. 16430807
>>16430802
"y-you too"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:57:30 UTC No. 16430809
>>16430804
Yeah the altimeter makes it a bit more difficult to judge, as both 10m and 900m read out as 0km on the public telemetry
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:58:01 UTC No. 16430811
>>16430774
for anyone who didnt see his face when it landed
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:58:15 UTC No. 16430813
>>16430807
I said something along those lines yes. It's not easy being autistic. sometimes I wonder if Elon was doing a job interview and they asked him "what do you think your weaknesses are?" how would he respond? Would he just walk out the interview?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:58:22 UTC No. 16430814
>>16430802
You should have said, they were jealous as fuck that you had the BALLS to exit that go-nowhere-fast company, and they wanted to stay in touch and network, so they can follow your lead. You are moving on up, and they are sadly stuck in the worst of wage cages, but powerless to do anything about it. Many such cases!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:59:19 UTC No. 16430815
>>16430813
He'd probably rape the interviewer, knowing him
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:00:13 UTC No. 16430818
>>16430811
>long hair
>pink shirt
What massage is he trying to send?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:00:52 UTC No. 16430820
do they do active cooling w/ the cold fuel to cool the engine nozzles? if now what do they use to cool the nozzles?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:01:55 UTC No. 16430822
>>16430689
Returning any booster is the first step into figuring out how to get it back intact.
The reentry heating happened before the landing burn and it did not stop it from igniting all necessary engines and retaining control to land very precisely.
It's easy to point that it's damaged, but the fact it sits on it's launch mount is more validation of the design than any damage being a setback.
If the heating was a huge problem, you just wouldn't have a landed booster.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:05:09 UTC No. 16430824
>>16430813
elon is a world class bullshit artist, he would stutter a lot but leave them thinking hes a genius
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:08:18 UTC No. 16430828
Can someone explain why this booster catch is more technically impressive than the moon landing ? Yeah it requires more fine tuned control but now we have modern computers and better materials. Or even starship, we already know how to produce turbo jet engines, what are the technical reasons that prevent just scaling previous models.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:09:31 UTC No. 16430831
>>16430820
They do, modern nozzles have integrated cooling channels for the cryo-prop to run through before being used for combustion, the issue is that you can only make the nozzle so heavy/durable as mass is being used up elsewhere, in this case the Raptor V2's still need a heavy heatshield to protect more sensitive parts from the heat of the engines and re-entry. V3 is designed in such a way to eliminate the need for the heatshield and offer greater thrust.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:10:45 UTC No. 16430832
>>16430828
the moon landings weren't as precise. That's about it. These autonomous landings aren't very challenging from an engineering perspective. NASA was landing probes on the moon autonomously 50 or 40 years ago.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:11:09 UTC No. 16430835
>>16430505
"I thought you and I were friends."
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:11:49 UTC No. 16430837
>>16430828
Apples and oranges anon, the weight, mission complexity and landing environments are totally different. A lot of the impressiveness comes the sheer size of the vehicles involved.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:13:18 UTC No. 16430838
>>16430421
Starship is a Mexican girl if anything. She's the giant, 150 ton doter of Pablo the welder.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:13:20 UTC No. 16430839
>>16430828
>why this booster catch is more technically impressive than the moon landing ?
It happened.
>what are the technical reasons that prevent just scaling previous models
Physics doesn't scale like that.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:14:35 UTC No. 16430842
>>16430828
>>16430832
The engines used where dead simple in the landers
You will not find such fine control of any full flow staged combustion engines to the degree super heavy has demonstrated.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:15:08 UTC No. 16430844
>>16430537
I told a Chinese person about it as it was happening. She wasn't terribly impressed.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:17:54 UTC No. 16430845
>>16430839
>It happened
back to >>>/pol/
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:18:11 UTC No. 16430847
>>16430537
They are somewhat impressed
https://m.weibo.cn/search?container
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:19:43 UTC No. 16430848
>>16430604
They're aiming to build thousands of starships capable of multiple flights per day. It's going to be a lot more frequent than every two hours.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:27:29 UTC No. 16430857
>>16430847
>according to xinhua news agency
>according to phoenix technology
>video of it happening right below
i know theyre in a bubble controlled by government media but is it considered not real if they dont name one of the news outlets?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:28:53 UTC No. 16430858
>>16430610
Imagine the tens of thousands of jobs it'd create if they ever scale up that high. Pic related is the team for a singular test facility. Florida must be salivating at the opportunity.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:28:58 UTC No. 16430859
>>16430599
>Elon literally paying people cold hard cash to get voters registered in PA.
Faggot
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:30:32 UTC No. 16430861
>>16430858
the amount of job listings SpaceX and Starlink have are insane
1000s of them
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:31:31 UTC No. 16430863
>>16430663
Not spaceflight
Fuck off
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:33:35 UTC No. 16430865
Equipment rolling out to the pad including the booster transport
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:42:01 UTC No. 16430868
>>16430210
To translate; there is a conspiracy theory that states various intelligence agencies (CIA, Mossad, etc) are purposefully spreading/promoting stuff like flat earth, space doesn't real, and other really stupid conspiracies, as a well poisoning tactic to make discussing the actual shady shit those agencies do more difficult.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:45:20 UTC No. 16430870
If elon was a genius he would remove HR departments from SpaceX and Tesla
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:46:52 UTC No. 16430873
Two falcon launches today, 90 minutes apart.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:48:25 UTC No. 16430875
>>16430873
Falcon heavy is three launches actually. It's literally three falcon 9 rockets attacked to each other and they fly in synchrony
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:49:00 UTC No. 16430876
>>16430875
No
It isnt
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:53:35 UTC No. 16430880
>>16430875
Hmmm good point. I guess it’s 4 falcon launches in a 90 minute span bevause there’s a starlink launch out of vandenberg too.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:53:56 UTC No. 16430881
>>16430868
>lol sure yeah "Mossad spent decades gathering blackmail material for every prominent figure in the United States", do you believe the moon landing is fake too? lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:54:59 UTC No. 16430883
>>16430880
Wait no vandenberg is tomorrow. 4 in floriday today.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:55:48 UTC No. 16430886
>>16430881
>Mossad spent decades gathering blackmail material for every prominent figure in the United States
apparently so
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:56:47 UTC No. 16430888
>>16430870
who would he have sex with?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:57:56 UTC No. 16430889
>>16430117
Faggot commie
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:57:57 UTC No. 16430890
we had eclipses, and auroras, and while we wait for the nova: comets
>Tsuchinshan-ATLAS, also known as Comet C/2023 A3, will be at its brightest, and likely visible to the naked eye, for a week or two after Oct. 12, the day it’s closest to Earth—just look to the western sky shortly after sunset. As the days pass, the comet will get fainter and move to a higher part of the sky.
>The second comet, C/2024 S1 (ATLAS), just discovered on Sept. 27, should be visible around the end of October. The comet will pass closest to Earth on Oct. 24—look low in the eastern sky just before sunrise. Then, after swinging around the Sun, the comet may reappear in the western night sky right around Halloween.
https://arstechnica.com/science/202
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:59:30 UTC No. 16430891
>>16430890
apparently they're quite visible from the iss
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:01:20 UTC No. 16430894
>>16430888
female intern engineers
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:01:35 UTC No. 16430895
>>16430891
if people expect us to beleive this is real at least get rid of the crappy space engine watermarks.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:01:56 UTC No. 16430897
>>16430886
>lol "Israel's war is the direct result of hostile foreign agents bribing and blackmailing elected and unelected officials"?, yeah I bet you think the earth is flat too huh
something must be done about science misinformation
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:02:04 UTC No. 16430898
>>16430893
>starship can only do 40 tons, 75 tons max!
who am i to believe, spacex or some malding redditor
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:02:21 UTC No. 16430899
>>16430881
>Mossad spent decades gathering blackmail material for every prominent figure in the United States
got a source?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:03:30 UTC No. 16430901
>>16430893
I too like to pull out numbers out of my ass, the truth is that no one knows the actual numbers. Maybe it can do even less, who the fuck knows
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:03:41 UTC No. 16430902
>>16430899
Oh yeah all the mainstream media reported on it and every social media lets you talk about it, dumbass
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:10:51 UTC No. 16430911
god i wish i had a plate of aluminum to autisttically grind into an isogrid on my 10 million dollar CNC
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:11:48 UTC No. 16430914
>>16430894
this would markedly reduce the effectiveness of spacex. better to have the sex servants segregated in non technical jobs
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:13:30 UTC No. 16430917
>>16430893
they might be dropping from 4mm steel to 3mm steel in places. easy mass fraction just from that. plus the fins shrink and the tiles are getting thinner in places.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:15:11 UTC No. 16430920
Tesla Robot Taxi Predictions on 10/10 - We Robot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAe
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:16:29 UTC No. 16430923
>>16430893
Just went back a few months in this guys comment history. He reallly doesn’t like spacex…
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:20:46 UTC No. 16430930
>>16430923
imagine spending so much time on things you hate instead of things you like
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:26:36 UTC No. 16430942
>>16430930
I like hating
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:27:06 UTC No. 16430943
>>16430893
orange reddit niggers
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:27:55 UTC No. 16430944
self driving has been working for a long time now, its more just regulation and worrying about edge cases for years now
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:29:26 UTC No. 16430948
>>16430944
there's only one legit self driving company and that's waymo, but what does this have to do with spaceflight?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:33:42 UTC No. 16430956
>>16430948
self driving cybertrucks will spin donuts around the mars rovers
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:34:06 UTC No. 16430958
>>16430893
>>16430923
This person is also entertainingly wrong about GPS accuracy capabilities, an ESL, and is proud of being unqualified in aerospace. Disregard everything he/she/it types.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:37:21 UTC No. 16430962
nsf is live for falcon heavy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JU
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:40:18 UTC No. 16430966
lol this is the europa mission?
Whats their budget while it just fking coasts to jupiter i wonder
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:40:49 UTC No. 16430967
>>16430948
next you'll say ULA is the only legit rocket company
lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:42:29 UTC No. 16430970
whats the config on europa clipper? expendable?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:42:56 UTC No. 16430972
>>16430970
fully expendable afaik
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:43:30 UTC No. 16430973
>>16430972
wow rip boosters.....
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:43:42 UTC No. 16430975
>>16430970
Fully expendable
They need all the juice they can get
This was supposed to launch on SLS, but yeeeeaaahh
They are recovering fairings though, 2700km away from launch site
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:43:48 UTC No. 16430976
>>16430972
yeah, and maximum thrust. they're sending it as fast as possible.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:44:54 UTC No. 16430978
>>16430970
Yes. And it's arguably still not powerful enough. It will have to do gravity assists to get there
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:45:02 UTC No. 16430979
Now that we have the booster on ground, what sort of modification will SpaceX do to make the next flight more refined? Angle of attack mod or hardware mod or combo?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:45:34 UTC No. 16430980
>Side boosters: B1064-6 and B1065-6; 290d 14h 59min turnaround
>Side booster history: USSF-44, USSF-67, Echostar 24, Psyche, USSF-52.
>Side booster recovery: None
>Center Core: B1089
>Center Core history: New booster!
>Center Core recovery: None
RIP to the boosters
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:46:02 UTC No. 16430981
>>16430818
>should've trooned out 25 years ago
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:46:23 UTC No. 16430982
>>16430980
Hopefully it will be worth it
Europa Clipper will detect Europan life in 2030
Checkit
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:46:51 UTC No. 16430985
why don't they just refuel the second stage in orbit and reuse the boosters
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:47:39 UTC No. 16430986
>>16430978
Would a single superheavy have enough power?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:47:48 UTC No. 16430987
>>16430985
Because it's never been done before
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:48:52 UTC No. 16430989
Arriving 2030
We need starship.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:49:53 UTC No. 16430992
>>16430930
>>16430923
I can probably explain the reason to hate.
If you have been in any community long enough, it doesn't take long to notice the fussing around everything is not so much about what is done but how it's done.
People who hate on SpaceX all day probably loved spaceflight, but they only loved it when in the context of the 60s-2000s when government led everything. Now that private companies are leading in ways that are completely opposite to how NASA did things, they don't like spaceflight anymore.
Space flight isn't about the best and brightest in one agency, with the world's best manufacturers hand assembling things anymore.
Now is dirty mexicans mass welding stainless together in Texas with an autistic and narcissistic billionaire leading the charge. He's upset at this fact now, especially when the media tells everyone to hate him.
The rage over things changing is something to behold.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:49:57 UTC No. 16430994
>>16430985
They don't have refueling infrastructure for Falcon upper stages because they're focusing on making it work for Starship.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:50:39 UTC No. 16430995
>>16430966
it's probably, what, 3-6 engineers that will be charging most of their time to the project while it's drifting plus another 3 dozen or so who won't be charging any time to it until it gets to jupiter or if something comes up. plus time on the DSN. maybe a million a year while it's coasting?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:51:49 UTC No. 16430997
>>16430976
Gonna be cool to watch this thing bookin
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:52:20 UTC No. 16430999
>>16430982
Space is fake, Earth is hollow.
Checkit
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:52:42 UTC No. 16431000
im reading about brilliant pebbles now and i thought it was just a concept that never got off the ground, but they actually launched 3 of the pebbles for testing, all of which failed
wtf
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:53:15 UTC No. 16431001
there is no life in europe
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:53:16 UTC No. 16431002
>>16430995
100m a year...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:54:13 UTC No. 16431004
>>16430604
They are going to really need those sea platforms working soon. Once it gets to that point people will shut it down faster than the concord
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:54:53 UTC No. 16431005
>>16431002
https://www.planetary.org/charts/eu
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:55:25 UTC No. 16431007
>>16431002
for realsies? while it's coasting? are the having everyone on the project charge to it full time for the years between launch and jupiter intercept?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:56:25 UTC No. 16431009
>>16431005
75-100 million a year to supervise a satellite coasting dormant in space
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:57:42 UTC No. 16431012
>>16430989
how to pass time until 2030????????
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:58:18 UTC No. 16431014
>>16431007
I have no idea how it costs so much fr
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:00:03 UTC No. 16431016
>>16431007
Yes.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:00:44 UTC No. 16431017
>>16431005
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:01:32 UTC No. 16431019
>>16431014
india built, launched, and operated a moon lander for less than it costs clipper to drift through space for a year
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:02:32 UTC No. 16431022
>>16431019
Beurocracy...
They bought the flight from SpaceX for around the same amount of money
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:03:33 UTC No. 16431024
>>16431022
Rather than paying 2.5b for SLS
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:03:36 UTC No. 16431025
>>16431017
that's the retainer price scientists charge so they actually come back in 2030 and do the mission
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:05:55 UTC No. 16431031
When you spend $5 billion on a project, failure is unacceptable, so you do everything in a really retarded and expensive way to guarantee success (literally impossible, btw) which necessitates a budget of $5 billion...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:07:14 UTC No. 16431034
>>16431029
Its better than the faggots on the NASA stream
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:08:06 UTC No. 16431037
will NASA have an official stream for Clipper? btw my name is on clipper flying to space
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:08:35 UTC No. 16431039
>>16431037
Its live now but its shit
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:09:57 UTC No. 16431041
>>16431037
Your name had better be Nigel Iggerson
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:10:47 UTC No. 16431042
NASA is go for launch
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:10:50 UTC No. 16431043
>>16431041
Nah I used my real name. (doxing myself to Europans)
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:11:32 UTC No. 16431044
>tune into NASA stream
>hear Indian voice
>immediately close the window
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:12:12 UTC No. 16431048
the amount of mystery meat in that mission control center is astounding
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:12:20 UTC No. 16431049
we gotta stop spending $5 billion for a probe that takes 5 years to reach its destination and only gives us 4 years of science. we need probes that last for decades if we're spending that much.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:12:51 UTC No. 16431050
>>16431041
>>16431037
Not him but I sent up Judy Spizer
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:13:23 UTC No. 16431052
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:13:56 UTC No. 16431054
>>16431052
JPL is a joke
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:14:13 UTC No. 16431056
>>16431043
let me guess- youre a homeless spic who wandered in to the clean room and write graffiti all over the vehicle because they were afraid of being called raycist?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:14:28 UTC No. 16431057
>>16431049
>4 years of science
How will the mission end? They crash it into Jupiter?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:15:15 UTC No. 16431058
>>16431052
so many women
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:15:59 UTC No. 16431062
>>16431057
Ganymede
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:16:55 UTC No. 16431063
>>16431057
we dont know for sure yet according to wiki
>In June 2022, project scientist Robert Pappalardo revealed that mission planners for Europa Clipper were considering disposing of the probe by crashing it into the surface of Ganymede for planetary protection purposes, in case an extended mission was not approved early. He noted that an impact would help the ESA's JUICE mission collect more information about Ganymede's surface chemistry.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:17:22 UTC No. 16431064
>>16431060
I would be nervous as fuck if all those people were looking at what I was doing inside the mission control room
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:18:00 UTC No. 16431066
>>16430914
How? It's not like interns do any real work anyway. Better off letting them be fuck toys for the office, plus men can bounce ideas off them while they fuck.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:19:06 UTC No. 16431069
Anyone else worried about the faulty transistors onboard the spacecraft? Also here's a closeup pic of Europa. Clipper will deliver far better photos still. As you can see Europa has a bizarre rugged landscape with extremely steep cliffs
>>16431063
an extended mission will likely be approved.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:19:46 UTC No. 16431070
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:19:50 UTC No. 16431071
>>16431059
johj
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:20:08 UTC No. 16431072
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:20:17 UTC No. 16431073
>almost 2025
>still dont have probes for every planet and moon in the system
we're so far behind...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:21:20 UTC No. 16431075
>>16431070
Why does this picture looks like it's out of a porn movie?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:21:51 UTC No. 16431076
>make expendable starship upper stages
>make giant probes
>?
>profit
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:23:22 UTC No. 16431080
>>16431025
It'll be passing by mars, will any of its instruments learn anything new from that?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:23:47 UTC No. 16431081
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:25:21 UTC No. 16431084
>>16431076
starship has zero payload beyond LEO >>16429742
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:25:26 UTC No. 16431085
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:26:20 UTC No. 16431086
>>16431084
This is for reusable starship you fucking tranny
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:26:28 UTC No. 16431087
>>16431085
whoah look at those shadows those huge cliffs are casting
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:27:01 UTC No. 16431089
>>16431084
refuel
upper
stage
in
orbit
sirs
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:27:29 UTC No. 16431090
JPL just admitted on the stream that gravity assists actually steal a tiny amount of energy from the planet
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:27:51 UTC No. 16431091
>>16431090
>he didnt know
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:29:01 UTC No. 16431092
>>16431090
Slow down EVERY world, crash them ALL into Sol
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:29:07 UTC No. 16431093
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:29:54 UTC No. 16431095
>>16431090
whitey be stealing our planets energy n shiet
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:30:21 UTC No. 16431096
>>16431076
People probably wont believe me but the future of space science missions are probes launched into LEO by SLS and refueled by Starships.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:30:56 UTC No. 16431097
>>16431090
they speed planets up if you go the other way
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:31:36 UTC No. 16431098
>>16431097
Gravity dessist
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:31:43 UTC No. 16431099
>>16431052
/sfg/ is jelly as FUCK
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:32:41 UTC No. 16431101
>>16431090
Clearly we must send gravity return missions to give back all the energy that was taken by the previous missions.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:33:13 UTC No. 16431102
>>16431096
>probes launched into LEO by SLS
2.5 Billion dollars a probe launch plz t.NASA
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:33:15 UTC No. 16431103
whos the fella breathing heavily
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:36:01 UTC No. 16431108
My heart rate is a bit higher for Europa Clipper than even IFT-5!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:36:11 UTC No. 16431109
Europa clipper will measure the thickness of the crust and maybe the depth of the ocean
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:36:49 UTC No. 16431113
>>16431090
How many Europa Clipper missions are needed to crash Mars into Earth?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:36:59 UTC No. 16431114
>>16431075
jessi hooking up with the nasa announcer
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:37:24 UTC No. 16431115
>>16431109
yeah, in the gayest way possible. we should send a 100 ton tungsten dart impactor to europa
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:38:55 UTC No. 16431120
it's 2024, why is the video and audio quality in the NASA stream still so crap
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:39:00 UTC No. 16431121
>>16431115
what would be the purpose of that?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:39:05 UTC No. 16431122
how come the retards couldn't just keep it under a fucking weight limit that allowed a direct transfer instead of years of circling around
Should have been cancelled a decade ago
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:39:58 UTC No. 16431124
>first woman
>first person of color
a recipe for disaster
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:41:04 UTC No. 16431126
>>16431124
what could go wrong?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:42:04 UTC No. 16431128
>>16431126
probably nothing unless they decide they must be parastronauts too
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:42:17 UTC No. 16431130
>>16431122
Its NASAs largest and most capable probe
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:42:29 UTC No. 16431131
>THREE (3) /sfg/ threads still up and in autosage mode
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:44:28 UTC No. 16431135
>>16431131
science is boring to talk about to most people
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:45:43 UTC No. 16431137
>>16431070
dios mio
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:46:26 UTC No. 16431139
apparently they saved $2bil from switching to Falcon Heavy
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:46:52 UTC No. 16431140
>>16429704
Europa Clipper will explode, they can't let Elon Musk win. Sorry but we must stop Elon Musk.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:47:37 UTC No. 16431141
>>16431139
More than that
This launch will cost 150m
SLS would have cost 2.5b
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:48:57 UTC No. 16431146
>>16431090
Don't mind me, just transferring some kinetic energy from this planet...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:48:59 UTC No. 16431147
>>16431121
measure the thickness of the ice crust
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:49:12 UTC No. 16431149
>>16431139
what would've been their original launch vehicle?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:49:35 UTC No. 16431150
>>16431139
they would have spent that 2 billion if the SLS was ready though
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:50:02 UTC No. 16431151
>>16431126
Well the main issue is that there are apparent quotas, they won't just pick the best people to do the job
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:50:03 UTC No. 16431152
>>16431148
It's how they would have wanted to go
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:50:07 UTC No. 16431153
>>16431149
SLS
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:50:24 UTC No. 16431154
>>16431149
SLS and it would have brought Europa Clipper to Europa in less than 2 years.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:50:55 UTC No. 16431156
>>16431149
SLS
Would have cost way more, but it would have arrived earlier.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:51:08 UTC No. 16431157
>>16431154
Less than 3 years
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:51:27 UTC No. 16431160
>>16431151
glover is a great pick and I don't know anything about koch but I assume she's fine. what racists and misogynists don't realize is the real quotanaut is the canadian.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:52:28 UTC No. 16431161
>>16431115
fill it with plutonium and have it melt and sink through the surface
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:52:36 UTC No. 16431162
>>16431156
Sigh... why couldn't they have let the professionals handle this...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:53:46 UTC No. 16431164
>>16431147
the tungsten wouldn't go through...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:54:08 UTC No. 16431168
>>16431154
>>16431156
>>16431157
could have just launched it in modules and joined it together in LEO
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:54:33 UTC No. 16431170
>>16431164
>accidentally read youtube comments
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:55:05 UTC No. 16431171
>>16431151
NASA astronauts are already drastically overqualified for what they do. Also Glover is based and 100% will quote scripture when he steps on the moon.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:55:15 UTC No. 16431172
>>16431168
>how to turn a 5.2 billion (2 billion) dollar probe into a 20 billion dollar probe
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:55:30 UTC No. 16431174
>>16431154
>>16431157
Imagine when Starship is commercially available and we get probes on direct routes to the outer planets for very cheap
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:55:34 UTC No. 16431175
>>16431170
oopsie daisy I didn't mean to replyarino xD
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:56:49 UTC No. 16431178
anyone's stream started lagging?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:57:11 UTC No. 16431179
>>16431174
could they send a second clipper that gets there quicker than the first one provided starship is commercially viable in short time and they just happen to have a second probe lying around
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:57:28 UTC No. 16431180
>>16431172
take away autistic weight restrictions and you cut costs by 10x
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:57:28 UTC No. 16431181
>>16431157
Oh, you are right.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:57:45 UTC No. 16431183
>>16431178
yea
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:58:26 UTC No. 16431184
>>16431181
That looks so much better than the orange
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:59:52 UTC No. 16431185
>>16431184
the paint just ends up being a considerable added weight
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:00:23 UTC No. 16431186
>>16431178
the youtube's stream is fucked
i switched to twitter instead
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:00:26 UTC No. 16431187
>>16431185
What does this mean for the renders of HLS being all white?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:00:53 UTC No. 16431188
these NSF casters are horrible
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:00:57 UTC No. 16431189
>>16431186
link?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:01:24 UTC No. 16431192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mt
>>16431189
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1DXxydor
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:01:42 UTC No. 16431193
Clear Live for Falcon Heavy Europa Clipper Mission!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mt
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:01:43 UTC No. 16431194
Was europa clipper supposed to launch of SLS?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:01:50 UTC No. 16431195
>>16431181
Rapid response to what? Chase Oumuamua?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:02:00 UTC No. 16431196
working link
https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-vid
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:02:52 UTC No. 16431198
>>16431187
HLS will need to be white. It needs to reflect sunlight. There will also be significant insulation. They'll have plenty of extra mass with no heat shield and basically no payload.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:04:06 UTC No. 16431199
>anomaly
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:04:28 UTC No. 16431200
anomalous temperature treading noted
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:04:35 UTC No. 16431201
oh cool I tuned in just in time to watch the rocket explode on the pad
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:04:40 UTC No. 16431202
>>16431199
Prepare for hodl
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:04:45 UTC No. 16431203
>>16431198
Oh right I forgot they won't need tiles on HLS, that'll be a bunch of mass saved and a little white paint won't offset the savings much at all.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:05:01 UTC No. 16431204
>>16431194
Anon learn how to control+f
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:05:12 UTC No. 16431205
>>16430886
oh, I think you're talking about this then
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:05:27 UTC No. 16431206
the government, NASA, and MIC all have incentives to hide a bomb in clipper and blow it up to blame SpaceX
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:05:32 UTC No. 16431207
>>16431194
yeah
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:05:33 UTC No. 16431208
>>16431193
>I can't enjoy spaceflight unless there's a cartoon little girl on screen
kill yourself
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:05:43 UTC No. 16431209
most expensive spacex payload ever
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:06:00 UTC No. 16431210
ULA SNIPER SPOTTED
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:06:03 UTC No. 16431211
We are a go for launch
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:06:19 UTC No. 16431212
HOLD
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:06:53 UTC No. 16431214
>>16431210
>"it jammed :("
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:06:59 UTC No. 16431215
plz blow up for keks
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:07:08 UTC No. 16431216
Damn look at that fucker go
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:07:15 UTC No. 16431217
5 billion dollars going up into space
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:07:33 UTC No. 16431218
My favourite part is when the announcer says what the launch is about right after liftoff
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:08:06 UTC No. 16431220
and we have LIFTOFF for the europa clipper going to jupiters moon Europa
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:08:23 UTC No. 16431222
Clear max-qute!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:09:01 UTC No. 16431223
funnily enough FH is spacex's most reliable rocket heh
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:09:08 UTC No. 16431224
I expect a Clipper themed /sfg/ thread in 2030 for its arrival
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:09:33 UTC No. 16431225
Farewall side boosters... you did some good launches for the glowies...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:09:40 UTC No. 16431226
Nice. Another spacex win. When is BO launching?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:09:49 UTC No. 16431227
>>16431224
Assuming we all still have electricity and internet then, there will be.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:10:02 UTC No. 16431228
we are chilling
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:10:12 UTC No. 16431229
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:10:37 UTC No. 16431231
booster kun...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:10:48 UTC No. 16431232
>no telemetry
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:10:50 UTC No. 16431233
NOMINAL
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:11:27 UTC No. 16431235
EC and JUICE are based, but we already know a lot about the Jovian system and nothing about the Uranian and Neptunian systems. I demand Trident to be fast-forwarded and given full priority from now, and I expect a launch no later than 2027.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:11:44 UTC No. 16431236
they will recover the fairings btw
kek
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:11:47 UTC No. 16431237
what the fuck is that
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:11:49 UTC No. 16431238
ALRIGHT STAGE 2 DONT FUCK UP AGAIN
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:12:06 UTC No. 16431239
>>16431225
>spacex-sana, we are landing again right? why isn't there enough fuel in my belly?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:12:24 UTC No. 16431240
Fucking beautiful
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:13:01 UTC No. 16431242
>>16431239
>sana
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:13:05 UTC No. 16431243
Hopefully no cock-ups with the second burn.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:13:21 UTC No. 16431245
>>16431239
this person watches anime
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:13:58 UTC No. 16431246
>>16431242
yeah i never watched anime in my life
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:14:01 UTC No. 16431247
spaceflight will only continue to get busier...one day sfg will have to be split up into different generals for different topics...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:14:38 UTC No. 16431248
They should have an infographic of what the ship actually looks like during different stages
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:15:03 UTC No. 16431249
They should do an all-women launch where females control every aspect of it, and when it explodes everyone will know to never mix females and rocketry again (except for nose art on Starship)
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:15:11 UTC No. 16431250
Looks like they got some white engine rabbits rather than rats today
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:16:23 UTC No. 16431252
>>16431235
But anon, SLS will die without that money!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:16:39 UTC No. 16431254
This dude has painted nails. Oh it's a woman nvm
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:16:51 UTC No. 16431255
>>16430738
They wheeled out Obama to chastise black voters, Kamala is drinking beer on TV, going to the southern border, distancing herself from Biden. Walz is pretending to be a tough guy pheasant hunter. These are desperate acts to appear non-reptilian in the face of abysmal internal polling
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:16:59 UTC No. 16431256
>>16431247
there will be a mars only *chan one day
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:17:03 UTC No. 16431257
>>16431209
jwst
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:17:09 UTC No. 16431258
is that a tranny
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:17:32 UTC No. 16431259
>>16431257
spacex makes ariane 5?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:17:39 UTC No. 16431260
>>16431249
New zealand navy did that with a female crew and the ship sank
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:17:43 UTC No. 16431261
A brown woman and a fat dyke. Really? America needs a purge.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:17:49 UTC No. 16431262
>>16431257
thats ariane bro
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:17:59 UTC No. 16431263
>>16431257
not spacex
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:18:38 UTC No. 16431264
>>16430117
>It reeks of the very sort of ego I'm talking about
Ego is controlling what people can and can't build. The only reason Elon needs to go to Mars is that he wants to
The whole point of starship is that it slashes payload cost by another factor of 10. Going to Mars is just icing on the cake. Nasa was content to sit on their asses for decades after the shuttle was canceled. It's their own damn fault that private space caught up and beat them. They wasted much more money than spacex ever had on pointless bs while ceding launch capacity to the russhits and chinks
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:18:56 UTC No. 16431265
>>16431247
>/tsfg/
terra spaceflight general
>/lsfg/
luna spaceflight general
>/msfg/
mars spaceflight general
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:19:01 UTC No. 16431267
>>16431257
europoor trying to steal other's glory again
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:19:07 UTC No. 16431268
>>16431209
jared isaacman?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:19:11 UTC No. 16431269
The glowie launches had the most expensive cargo surely
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:20:23 UTC No. 16431270
>>16431269
Yeah those 100 meter northrtop antennas cost a lot
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:20:40 UTC No. 16431272
>>16430657
Not really, IFT4 still successfully flipped and reoriented for soft landing. I think I would rather be off target by a bit than break up 50mi up like Columbia
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:20:42 UTC No. 16431273
>>16431269
doubtful, these nasa satellites are insanely expensive because you have entire teams that do nothing but work on it for 20 years
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:20:48 UTC No. 16431274
>>16431269
Zuma was only like 2 billion
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:21:41 UTC No. 16431275
>>16431268
kek
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:21:48 UTC No. 16431277
>>16431265
>terra
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:22:04 UTC No. 16431278
so how long before the second burn?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:22:53 UTC No. 16431281
>>16431247
People will be less interested in individual launches
In 3 years, starship fuel depo tankers will be as notable as starlink launches
In 10 years, lunar commercial cargo missions will be ignoreable
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:23:11 UTC No. 16431282
>>16431269
if it was more expensive than it's all artificial expense (cost of going through 'secret' channels and 'secret' development) the actual material and labor cost will never approach these science payloads
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:23:17 UTC No. 16431283
fun fact voyager 2 is the only craft that has visited Neptune.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:23:21 UTC No. 16431284
>>16431101
Hey as long as every congressional district gets a piece of the action...
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:23:29 UTC No. 16431285
Isn't our clown clown world Earth beautiful?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:23:49 UTC No. 16431286
>NASA gets their Europa thing into orbit no problem
>SPaceX can't even land their thing in the sea without it exploding
hahahahahahahaa spacex btfo hahahahaa btfo
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:24:28 UTC No. 16431287
>>16431286
Weak bait
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:24:31 UTC No. 16431288
>>16431283
Lots of craft have visited Uranus though
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:25:11 UTC No. 16431291
>>16431287
You replied
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:25:33 UTC No. 16431292
>>16430890
Too many omens
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:25:55 UTC No. 16431294
>>16431287
it's not bait, it's just a joke, anon
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:26:35 UTC No. 16431295
hmm i missed this from a couple of days ago, but ukraine is blaming recent battlefield losses on starlink. add it to the pile of attacks made against spacex last week.
>there is a burgeoning black market of Starlinks bringing the terminals to Russians on the front, and their proliferation has been an important factor in Russia’s recent gains during its offensive, Ukrainian soldiers said
>The issue has renewed Ukrainian frustrations over Elon Musk, SpaceX’s mercurial chief executive. Some of the soldiers criticized Musk by name, saying his company has not done enough to crack down on illicit use and casting doubt on his desire to fix the problem, saying he appears to have favorable views toward Russia.
>“They just overpowered us,” said an officer in the 72nd Mechanized Brigade, which had defended the Vuhledar area since 2022 and recently had to withdraw. He described the Russian use of Starlink as one of the important factors, along with manpower and weaponry shortfalls, that hastened the fall of Vuhledar this month.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:27:08 UTC No. 16431297
>>16429704
>Reusable Starship
It won't happen. Only the booster will be reusable, and way less than F9 due to the higher structural loads.
When SpaceX analyzes the telemetry of starship, they will realise that it doesn't make any sense to reuse such a vehicle due to the extent of the repairs and rebuilding needed after each flight.
The future is an expendable Starship with just vacuum engines.
Screencap this.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:28:33 UTC No. 16431300
>>16431283
that's not very fun
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:20 UTC No. 16431302
I actually never screencap anything written by a tranny so I won't
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:57 UTC No. 16431304
What a week SpaceX is having, mogging every player in the world, outstanding dominace on every level .
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:30:46 UTC No. 16431305
>>16431295
>wapo
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:31:05 UTC No. 16431306
>I have enabled youtube chat on the NASA video
horrors beyond my imagination
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:32:15 UTC No. 16431307
This stream is incredibly brown and gay. RUD after deployment.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:32:40 UTC No. 16431308
>>16431295
This is quite literally Jeff Bezos shitting on his competition
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:33:25 UTC No. 16431310
>>16431266
why do they wait 10 minutes after engine cutoff to deploy the payload?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:34:35 UTC No. 16431311
>>16431308
But journalists are impartial people that have to provide facts as close to objectivity as possible, what are you suggesting anon? That we can't trust anecdotic quotes on the internet?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:35:23 UTC No. 16431314
>>16431247
space board
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:35:25 UTC No. 16431315
>>16431306
>dumbfuck2001:where is this rocket going?
>retard11:why arent the boosters landing?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:35:33 UTC No. 16431316
>>16429704
BREAKING NEWS!!! THEY ARE INSTALLING EXPLOSIVES ON BOOSTER 12!! IFT6 IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN WITH BOOSTER 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:35:53 UTC No. 16431317
>Biologically clean
First thing I'd do if landed on Europa was toss out my wank tissues. Life shall find a way.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:37:44 UTC No. 16431318
>>16431295
As much as I want SpaceX to succeed Trump winning absolutely means Ukraine loses its much needed funding. I don't mind if SpaceX takes an extra year or two to get to the moon that's still beating China by a large marge.
And as we just saw this week the democrats actually seem willing to work with Musk if enough pressure is applied so it might not even be different under kamala anyway.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:40:23 UTC No. 16431320
>>16431318
>I want america to be destroyed that will help space flight
>viva la raza
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:41:15 UTC No. 16431322
>>16431316
Chat, is this real?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:42:41 UTC No. 16431323
>>16431316
I don't understand this reusable FTS explosives meme
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:42:46 UTC No. 16431324
>>16431320
Why is America getting destroyed? lmao if you bend to nuclear blackmail you won't be safe even if you retreat to North America.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:44:10 UTC No. 16431325
>>16429927
Laughing, clapping and jumping in glee
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:45:10 UTC No. 16431326
>>16431320
Please don't reply to /k/ bait
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:46:00 UTC No. 16431327
>>16431318
she needs to quit the space YouTuber meme and have a dozen children instead
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:48:55 UTC No. 16431330
>>16431226
>When is BO launching?
I keked
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:50:41 UTC No. 16431333
>>16431318
I think we should fund Russia
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:51:17 UTC No. 16431334
>>16431277
Are you an Earth purist or something?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:52:02 UTC No. 16431335
>>16431334
"Terra" is retarded
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:54:47 UTC No. 16431338
Are we 100% positive that dark matter isn't just normal baryonic matter that isn't a star? Like 85% of the universe by mass could just be cold planets in the void, right?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:55:14 UTC No. 16431340
>>16431295
I'm pretty sure Russia isn't winning this war because they got a few black market starlink terminals, probably has more to do with their numerical superiority in tanks and artillery and men and al the other stuff.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:55:46 UTC No. 16431342
>>16431338
IIRC that doesn't explain some things. Dark Matter interacts weakly with itself or something like that.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:57:02 UTC No. 16431343
>>16431340
>I'm pretty sure Russia isn't winning this war
correct
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:57:37 UTC No. 16431345
>>16431322
Kill yourself normalnigger
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:58:32 UTC No. 16431346
>>16431310
give everybody a chance to go take a pee
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:01:30 UTC No. 16431353
"Nominal Orbit Insertion"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:02:01 UTC No. 16431354
>>16431342
I wonder how many constants in physics are only constant because we measure them from the same place
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:03:34 UTC No. 16431357
>>16431354
Big G is almost certainly derived from other things rather than being a true constant.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:03:37 UTC No. 16431358
>>16431354
Imagine if there is a place or time where light speed is faster and we just happened to exist at the fucking worst place
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:05:11 UTC No. 16431360
>>16431358
the universe isn't expanding, redshift is just light slowing down over time (or speeding up? idk I didn't actually think about this shitpost)
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:09:32 UTC No. 16431364
Good separation on Clipper
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:09:58 UTC No. 16431365
Goodbye Clipper!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:11:05 UTC No. 16431366
BREAKING NEWS THEY DONT GET A SIGNAL FROM EUROPA CLIPPER ITS OVER
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:14:21 UTC No. 16431373
AOS
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:14:54 UTC No. 16431377
>>16431324
>lmao if you bend to nuclear blackmail
Did you see the 20 minute long standing ovation he got? believe me the Sampson Option is real and we already bent the knee
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:15:19 UTC No. 16431379
>>16431335
It's latin.
Bow to the sacred language you heathen.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:16:08 UTC No. 16431381
>failed vent
UH OH
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:16:25 UTC No. 16431382
Proof that we send too few probes if AOS calls for applause.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:17:25 UTC No. 16431384
>>16431382
Yup, the DSN is basically held together with hopes and prayers also
>Coughing on the loop
gross
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:17:39 UTC No. 16431385
>>16430663
Yeah pretty much. They're so bright that the yellow/orange tinge is minimal.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:17:49 UTC No. 16431387
>>16431343
you do know the zog in kiev only survives as long as the western money and arms spigot is turned on full blast right, and that can't last forever
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:17:51 UTC No. 16431388
FAILER VENTING, PROBLEMS
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:18:00 UTC No. 16431389
I wonder if spacex for missions like these do more checks for the boosters and 2nd stage compared to starlink ones.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:18:55 UTC No. 16431391
>>16431387
It actually can lol. We're spending <0.5% of US GDP on it right now.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:19:10 UTC No. 16431392
>>16431384
I hope someone comes up with a private DSN startup. That would be way more useful compared to another meme launcher.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:20:08 UTC No. 16431393
>>16429778
Until Starship routinely flies, there's no need, as there's no vehicle that can take advantage of a larger docking port at this time.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:20:13 UTC No. 16431394
>>16431392
starlink would do it if there was any money in it whatsoever
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:20:54 UTC No. 16431395
so is starship no longer "fully reusable" because of the hot staging ring?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:21:40 UTC No. 16431397
>>16431395
They'll fix that in later booster revisions.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:21:44 UTC No. 16431398
>>16431394
I don't think starlinks have the same deep space reach of those giant dishes
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:21:46 UTC No. 16431399
>>16431395
starship isn't fully reusable because of the methane and lox
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:21:46 UTC No. 16431400
>>16431391
too bad normal non-bloodsucking parasite people want peace, not the permanent brother wars you've been engineering
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:22:40 UTC No. 16431401
>>16431395
Yes. Also they don't reuse fuel, Elon Musk is scam.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:22:40 UTC No. 16431402
>>16431379
>written in english
Faggot
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:24:16 UTC No. 16431403
>All this war posting
Fuck off back to >>>/pol.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:26:18 UTC No. 16431407
>>16430893
Anyone who mentions the rocket equation like some kind of gotcha should be put in a camp
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:28:28 UTC No. 16431409
>vent problem
Europabros... Is it... Over?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:30:22 UTC No. 16431412
>>16431411
this is europe's mentality too
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:31:18 UTC No. 16431413
>>16431411
>we dont have aspirations so we dont need to keep up
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:31:53 UTC No. 16431415
>>16431400
>the permanent brother wars you've been engineering
do you also believe the Earth is flat?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:32:08 UTC No. 16431416
>>16430121
4 crew per module, 6 modules in total, for a crew of 24 people on average at any given time. At any given time 12-16 would be doing experiments of some kind and sending that data back, other 12-8 would be doing other activities that may involve significant bandwidth requirements too, local to orbit or out to deep space or the Moon. It doesn't take much to saturate a single gigabit connection anon. That's only 120MB/s. The raw bitstream from New Horizons, for example, would fully saturate that connection for over a month every time it does a data burst back towards the Earth.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:32:30 UTC No. 16431417
>>16431411
Honestly yeah. Some entities are better off buying flights and seats and saying thank you. This bizarre state where 90% of real talent is focused on developing launchers is leaving a pretty obvious gap
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:33:07 UTC No. 16431418
>>16431411
This mentality is why they are a vassal state of America
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:33:33 UTC No. 16431419
>>16431417
>This bizarre state where 90% of real talent is focused on developing launchers is leaving a pretty obvious gap
You think they should be focused on making chips?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:36:07 UTC No. 16431423
>>16431280
i really like evil women
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:36:48 UTC No. 16431424
When solar panel deployment
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:39:20 UTC No. 16431426
>>16431419
Focussed on making payloads
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:40:32 UTC No. 16431428
>>16431424
idk
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:41:19 UTC No. 16431430
>>16430893
Let's pretend for a second that its 75T to LEO fully reusable. There's nothing on the planet that can put 75T into orbit and be ready to fly again 24h. Even Falcon Heavy can only do 63T to LEO, and its turn around time is around 2-3 weeks. People get so hung up on numbers, they fail to account for the time element of the equation. The Alpaca lander had a negative mass payload capacity. Blue Origin's lander is basically 5-7T. Starship is 10x that at its most conservative estimate. That's huge. 75T is 2 payloads to get to a fully deployable ISS 2.0 station. 3 if we're being generous. It took us 20 years to build the ISS and with only a 75T reusable Starship, we can do it in a month. That reduction in time is the most valuable element of this gain, not on whether it can deliver 200T or 100T or just 75T. People like these consistently miss the forest for the trees.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:43:16 UTC No. 16431434
>>16431430
Yeah, even a Falcon 9 tier payload, plus immediate reuse, would change everything.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:45:30 UTC No. 16431435
>>16431391
The thing is people are getting tired of so much of OUR money (but it's only half of a percent for this one, goy!) going to fund YOUR schemes. If you want to pay for an endless war in Europe out of your own pockets that's one thing but using your control over our governments to make us pay big for something so unprofitable and ultimately harmful as this has got to stop.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:48:30 UTC No. 16431440
>>16431415
all antisemites do, they believe the sky is a dome and the Earth is only 4k years old and that "We aint descended from no dang monkeys neither!", fucking trailer park trash deserved to be replaced
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:50:12 UTC No. 16431441
>>16431440
Kek
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:52:09 UTC No. 16431444
There's just too many downsides to trying to maintain a domestic LV program at this point. Everyone should give up and focus on building payloads for the new normal. Launch has been solved. Only China has a good reason to keep up with their program.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:52:14 UTC No. 16431445
>>16431430
That long central truss always felt more like a ship's keel than a space station to me. The ISS will ultimately have less in common with future stations than with Venus or outer system manned missions.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:58:52 UTC No. 16431452
why don't we use a helium based rocket fuel? that way the rocket is really light during liftoff!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:59:35 UTC No. 16431455
>>16431452
Helium is inert
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:04:14 UTC No. 16431459
>>16431452
>helium based rocket
you mean nuclear fusion rocket?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:06:10 UTC No. 16431460
>>16431436
I suppose its good to have the strategic autonomy a domestic launch provider gives you, even if its not competitive with SpaceX. It looks like that's all Japan and the EU are after
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:07:24 UTC No. 16431462
>>16431392
I've been advocating for this for a while now. When Starship comes online it will be possible to launch giant radio telescopes to orbit and avoid having to locate in radio quiet zones.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:07:58 UTC No. 16431463
Elon : The next generation Starlink satellites, which are so big that only Starship can launch them, will allow for a 10X increase in bandwidth and, with the reduced altitude, faster latency
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18458
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:11:43 UTC No. 16431466
>>16431452
Hydrogen is even lighter, why don't we use that? ;)
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:12:30 UTC No. 16431468
Martin Shkreli booster landing reaction
https://www.youtube.com/live/yO5oai
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:12:55 UTC No. 16431469
>Fastest Falcon launch ever: 45648 km/h
>Europa Clipper will reach Mars in just about 4 months (FEB 2025)
Holy shit
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:17:46 UTC No. 16431474
>>16431462
If they could reprise KH sats for Hubble they can reprise Magnum for a new DSN
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:18:18 UTC No. 16431476
>>16431469
Holy shit
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:21:13 UTC No. 16431482
>>16431469
And new Falcon speed record: 12680 m/s (earth-centered inertial)
https://x.com/edwards345/status/184
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:24:25 UTC No. 16431485
>>16431463
I told you retards that starlink satellites would keep bloating and that starship wouldn't change anything since almost all their launches will be dominated by starlink with government contracts being squeezed in somewhere.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:25:32 UTC No. 16431490
>>16431485
why is bloating a bad thing
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:27:24 UTC No. 16431499
>>16431463
"order of magnitude" Elon does it again. I love how much of his success comes from the markets really liking order of magnitude increases
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:28:28 UTC No. 16431505
>>16431490
For Starlink services its not. But for anyone wanting to launch on Starship it sucks. 2 year wait list for a Falcon 9 right now and I don't see that changing with starship. Satellite ratio/launch is not going to be any better.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:28:39 UTC No. 16431506
>>16431469
>my daily commute in 2 seconds
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:30:10 UTC No. 16431510
>>16431469
That's how fast my name is flying to Mars as we speak
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:30:50 UTC No. 16431512
>>16431318
You posted this yesterday
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:38:21 UTC No. 16431525
>>16431519
Plasma magnet solves this
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:38:22 UTC No. 16431526
>>16431505
Oh yes it is. With full reuse and RTLS every launch, cadence will begin to accelerate. Multiple that by new launch sites, SpaceX is going to have 5 completed Starship pads within the next 5 years, and by then cadence will easily exceed current F9 cadence on a single pad
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:42:19 UTC No. 16431530
JD Vance : I believe the destiny of this country is to conquer the stars. Whatever your views of Elon's politics, this is something that should inspire all of us.
https://x.com/JDVance/status/184583
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:43:29 UTC No. 16431532
>>16431525
I'm tired of you and your damn plasma magnets
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:44:05 UTC No. 16431534
>>16431530
>"conquer"
that's a problematic term.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:45:55 UTC No. 16431538
>>16431534
Why are you quoting what you already greentexted
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:46:38 UTC No. 16431539
>>16430958
>an ESL
Are you calling me retarded
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:46:44 UTC No. 16431540
>>16431436
They're not really supposed to be competitive. They had ideas that the H-2 could have been competitive back in the late 80s but that died hard. Right now they just want a domestic rocket that they can put sensitive government payloads on that's also not a financial disaster to launch. They don't have any of the ego issues that Europe has against buying commercial services from outside providers.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:47:40 UTC No. 16431541
>>16431539
Nta but I am
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:49:05 UTC No. 16431543
>>16431540
>They don't have any of the ego issues that Europe has against buying commercial services from outside providers.
They don't?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:50:14 UTC No. 16431544
>>16430863
fuck off
>>>/n/
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:51:09 UTC No. 16431547
>>16431540
What they have is a domestic launcher that likes to explode
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:54:25 UTC No. 16431552
>>16431545
>refilling flights 3268 off nominal
>fleet grounded indefinitely
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:58:59 UTC No. 16431556
>>16431545
Its trans Martian injection just like it trans lunar injection
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:01:44 UTC No. 16431559
>>16431543
Europe's never stopped being salty over the State Department screwing over Symphonie back in 1972. That was only reinforced by NASA spending the next few decades screwing Europe over on group projects while treating them like a varsity league space power (even if it is mostly true). Japan's relationship with America in space has been a lot more professional and hasn't had any major issues of eurodramatics.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:02:08 UTC No. 16431561
>>16431556
the martian is trans? good for her
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:04:40 UTC No. 16431565
re: Japan's launch industry, one good reason to maintain this is to retain skills and talent that can be repurposed into ICBMs etc.
Many seemingly useless govt investments double as defensive measures. Subsidising domestic farming (see: UK) is a good example - it helps to enssure food independence in the event that shipping to the island collapses
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:05:52 UTC No. 16431566
exomarsbros....
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:06:36 UTC No. 16431568
I have schizo dreams that predict the future from my own point of view (empirically verified)
One of them is of me walking on the moon from the moon base to an outpost and back. Like a guided tour walking through a historical site. You will be allowed to do an actual space walk on foot as a tourist.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:07:43 UTC No. 16431569
>>16431559
I love working with JAXA, they're absolute bros
Contrast with the chaos that was Rosetta, DLR and CNES were fighting over data release schedules like two kids fighting over who gets to go first at show and tell
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:14:35 UTC No. 16431579
it just dawned on me that the falcon heavy mission recently was europa clipper. i swear that was meant to fly on sls? people have been talking about it flying on sls for like 10 years
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:17:16 UTC No. 16431581
>>16431540
They had hoped for some level of commercial success for H3. Pic related pointed to multiple commercial launches by 2028. But unlike the Europeans, Japanese launchers have never reached Ariane 5 level of success, so they are not bitter about being beaten by Falcon 9.
If Falcon 9 does not exist, H3 would be in a pretty good position.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:18:05 UTC No. 16431582
>>16429708
Manned LEO is a waste of time
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:18:10 UTC No. 16431583
>>16431579
sls called in sick this morning. it'll pick up one of fh's shifts some other time
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:23:05 UTC No. 16431587
>>16431579
Boeing konnte nicht genügend geld für einen SLS Start sichern. Der Start von SLS ist nicht erfolgt
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:23:52 UTC No. 16431589
>>16431579
SLS was first in line for Europa Clipper but they did some investigations and figured out that SLS produces so much vibration that it fucks with the craft so they chose FH
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:27:48 UTC No. 16431593
>>16431295
>wapo
Who do you think *owns* the press? Hello
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:28:01 UTC No. 16431594
>>16431587
Oh no! It's the hodenverstümmelung!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:29:23 UTC No. 16431595
so curiosity got the best of me, and I wanted to see how the rest of this website reacted to yesterday's launch and.. oh god, it's reddit 2.0, EDS everywhere.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:29:26 UTC No. 16431596
>>16431526
You're assuming that will be allowed to fly as many launches as they want. They don't even have a permit for 25.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:29:31 UTC No. 16431597
>>16431318
Not much will change if Zion Don wins. That applies especially to spaceflight.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:34:03 UTC No. 16431601
>>16431596
But they will, it's just a matter of time.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:35:19 UTC No. 16431606
>>16430382
>but does he care? he gets views either way
I think so. He wants to be Skeptical Science Sage not Bozo the clown
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:36:24 UTC No. 16431607
>>16431579
The real reason is that Boing was not able to build another SLS quickly enough to squeeze it between Artemis I and II.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:38:47 UTC No. 16431611
Uhhh bros why is Elon joking about taking his cock out
www dot facebook dot com slash reel/1151824402560228
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:39:42 UTC No. 16431614
>>16431596
Neither did F9 when it first began flying
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:49:26 UTC No. 16431628
>>16431614
Falcon 9 landing offshore on drone ships with minimal launch noise is not the same as superheavy and starship.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:51:01 UTC No. 16431632
>Starship shifts the demand curve for space launches to the left by 2 orders of magnitude
What are people going to send up to LEO when it costs $100/kg?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:52:33 UTC No. 16431634
>>16431601
I don't know if you have noticed but it's actually becoming harder to launch if you are Elon, not easier.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:55:04 UTC No. 16431638
>>16431574
WHOLESOME
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:56:27 UTC No. 16431640
>>16431632
there's unironically value in just putting raw materials in orbit. Just toss up tanks of water and rolls of steel and bags of sand and dirt. Call it moon 2, joking at first, but at some point you stop joking.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:56:56 UTC No. 16431643
When was the last we ever saw changing from 4mm to 3mm steel rolls?
>>16431632
space billboards. pandora's box will open
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:58:57 UTC No. 16431648
>>16431644
Does the exhaust plume look better or worse than on Saturn V?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:59:07 UTC No. 16431649
>>16431632
Myself
And maybe a decent telescope to style on the astrophotography community
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:00:03 UTC No. 16431652
>>16431583
>>16431587
>>16431589
>>16431607
espeically funny because these deep space missions were sold as a jsutification for sls since it was said they were impossible without it
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:01:16 UTC No. 16431654
>>16431649
this
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:03:19 UTC No. 16431659
>>16431648
Saturn V was just kerolox so it's an opaque fire.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:03:40 UTC No. 16431660
>>16431655
skill issue
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:04:23 UTC No. 16431663
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:05:15 UTC No. 16431666
>>16431660
yeah i think it meant to say that
there was no actual man hiding behind the tower who stepped it and caught the falling thing
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:06:11 UTC No. 16431670
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:09:41 UTC No. 16431674
>>16431632
Maybe I'll send a dildo or something, and giggle at the thought of a dildo flying around up there
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:09:43 UTC No. 16431676
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:10:03 UTC No. 16431677
>>16431662
Those windows will not exist. And by the way, the pressure vessel for Starship will be much much much smaller than you think , not the incredible 1000 cubic meter everyone thinks. Basically a 2 floor 2m in height cylinder , with one of the floors non-pressurized .
Basically the volume will be something like : pi * radius ^2 * height = 3.14 * 4.5m^2 * 2m = 127 cubic meters .
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:11:32 UTC No. 16431680
>>16431677
maybe 3 meter in height
3.14 * 4.5m^2 * 3m = 190 cubic meters .
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:12:19 UTC No. 16431682
>>16431676
which ai is that
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:12:38 UTC No. 16431683
>>16431677
>Those windows will not exist.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:14:02 UTC No. 16431684
>>16431683
Thats a pesky 1.6 - 1.7 m in diameter. The one in the photo looks like its 5 to 10 meters . IMPOSSIBLE
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:14:15 UTC No. 16431685
>>16431677
>2 floors at 2m high
You are retarded
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:14:16 UTC No. 16431686
>>16431658
Honestly pics like this >>16431646 would be the simplest way to show the scale. A human is a better reference than another rocket that you haven't seen in person
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:14:21 UTC No. 16431687
>>16431628
Good work detective. What's your point? F9 would do RTLS every time if they could. And FAA does not distinguish RTLS flights and droneship flights
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:15:39 UTC No. 16431691
>>16431676
skill issue again
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:16:03 UTC No. 16431692
>>16431606
Maybe thats why he was so quiet.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:16:06 UTC No. 16431693
>>16431687
>What's your point?
Erm, skyscraper sized objects ripping massive sonic booms on a daily basis close to where lots of people live?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:16:23 UTC No. 16431694
>>16431686
that's a big ship
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:16:46 UTC No. 16431695
>>16431652
Not to polish an orange turd, but it was only just possible with FH
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:17:10 UTC No. 16431696
>>16431691
Got a better response from o1.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:17:11 UTC No. 16431697
>>16431685
idiot ! , look at this real mockup . its maybe 2 to 2.5m in height . Now imagine it fully circular and below it , the unpressurized cargo area .
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:18:13 UTC No. 16431699
>>16431693
Used to be a bunch of boomers that lived there, but we've systematically removed them like you would any kind of termite or roach
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:18:31 UTC No. 16431700
>>16431640
No... What about space mining.... Bros, was it a bad idea the whole time..?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:19:20 UTC No. 16431702
>>16431693
erm what the sigma?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:19:37 UTC No. 16431704
>>16431699
Dude it's like 10/15 miles from brownsville and south padre Island
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:21:33 UTC No. 16431707
was it actually Elon that proposed the idea or someone else?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:23:25 UTC No. 16431712
Incredible new view of the catch from the tower
https://x.com/i/status/184592292431
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:24:57 UTC No. 16431715
>>16431712
love the sound effects
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:26:44 UTC No. 16431718
>>16431712
Kino
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:27:14 UTC No. 16431722
>>16431712
Fake
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:28:31 UTC No. 16431724
>>16431411
Weak mindset
You need that USA grindset if you want to get anywhere. With that reasoning why even have an H3? Why does japan even desire independent launch capability, when they could just pay SpaceX to send something up on Starship
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:29:41 UTC No. 16431729
/sfg/ - Shopped Footage General
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:30:27 UTC No. 16431732
>>16431724
>USA grindset
You mean SpaceX grindset
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:31:31 UTC No. 16431735
what's the status of the second tower?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:31:36 UTC No. 16431737
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:32:50 UTC No. 16431738
>>16431737
this shit is never going to work
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:34:06 UTC No. 16431741
arm just whacks the fucking thing lol
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:34:27 UTC No. 16431743
>>16431318
You need to accept that Europe is already lost in general, not just Ukraine. There's no point in trying to save them.
>>16431691
Did he also come up with the stacking using the tower and the stainless steel?
>>16431712
Wow, the hover precision needed for that to even be possible in the first place is crazy.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:34:36 UTC No. 16431745
>>16431737
it looks so easy
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:34:41 UTC No. 16431746
>>16431387
I'd have given you this in 2023, but it's late 2024 anon.
Russia simply doesn't have a sufficient superiority in AFVs and artillery anymore. If today all western arms aid stopped (including EU aid), Russia wouldn't be able to mount an offensive to finish taking Donetsk, and even zaphorizha is out.
Even if they sell themselves for the entire Nork military. It's just static frontline and trench warfare from here on out.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:34:52 UTC No. 16431747
>/int/ is seething about SpaceX
Why does /int/ get so mad?
To quote German anon
>You can cope and seethe but it’s literally true. The sole reason spacex exists in the first place is government gibs and bfr and the entire mars meme is so ridiculous that not even china takes it seriously and builds normal rockets instead What spacex is good at is reusability and medium payloads to LEO. There’s been zero major advancements anywhere else and no, „le precise landing but this time it lands on some clamps instead of the ground“ is nothing groundbreaking
Also Portuguese anon
>Inst the threads About how amazing mutt progress is while ours is making bottles gayer. And if you really want to argue About rockets a fucking 60 years old soviet design still BTFOs whatever space x is doing. Hell i remember a few years back they bought old soviet engines in bulk because they were much better then anything they made
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:36:44 UTC No. 16431751
>>16431749
Hopper over there just being cute.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:36:47 UTC No. 16431752
>>16431747
Another SpaceX thread? I made one yesterday.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:38:18 UTC No. 16431757
>>16431747
EU is literally developing an expendable rocket in 2024 lol
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:38:26 UTC No. 16431759
>>16431712
I wonder what kind of electronics they use to control the step motors, arduino?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:38:27 UTC No. 16431761
>>16431747
>why are retards retarded?
gee anon, I dunno
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:39:58 UTC No. 16431763
>>16431759
this is the entire control logic board.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:40:08 UTC No. 16431764
>>16431747
isn't /int/ full of /pol/ tier retards?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:41:23 UTC No. 16431767
>>16431764
Worse, it's the most normalfag board, full of their cattle-tier opinions.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:41:46 UTC No. 16431768
>>16431757
Also, can i remaind you about ... im almost laughing , .... VEGA ....
>Lets use 3 stages ....
>Aaaand they need to be solid rocket motors, all of them
>Barely any payload to orbit
>Keeps failing
>3 stages solid rocket motors in 2024
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:42:52 UTC No. 16431772
>>16431704
Sorry sweaty, Starlink is vital to national security :)
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:44:11 UTC No. 16431774
>>16431772
Might have been a valid argument 20 years ago before everything was retarded.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:45:12 UTC No. 16431776
>>16431759
runs of raspberry pie
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:45:52 UTC No. 16431777
>>16431757
I rather not link the /int/ thread here since its still up on that board, but if you want to argue with them go right ahead. Nearly 200 posts as of right now
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:46:59 UTC No. 16431779
>>16431763
is that a shunt resistor next to the USB jack? why?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:47:12 UTC No. 16431780
>>16431774
Before you were retarded?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:47:32 UTC No. 16431781
>>16429715
This guy... the only semi-decent video I've seen from him was when he agreed with Destin on the topic of NASA and Co. doing a piss-poor job at communicating the complexities of the new Artemis mission.
Everything musk related and he is just getting a spasmic seizure... Like, dude, take some chill-pills or something.
>>16429937
I see nothing is safe from rule 34 artists XD
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:47:58 UTC No. 16431783
>>16431697
>And below it
No, all current airlock mock-ups have it a small section on the same level of as the unpressurised cargo bay.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:48:17 UTC No. 16431784
>>16431759
there's a dude with a pair of binoculars and a logitech controller
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:48:46 UTC No. 16431786
europa clipper tracker is online
https://eyes.nasa.gov/apps/solar-sy
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:48:55 UTC No. 16431787
>>16431749
Look at that shock wave blast the whole area! How many animals were killed by that!?!?!?!?!? THIS HAS TO STOP
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:50:31 UTC No. 16431792
sound post and /wsg/ post if you don't have the extension
>>>/wsg/5707044
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:50:47 UTC No. 16431793
>>16431737
Are they gonna get rid of the pins and land on the fins?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:50:50 UTC No. 16431794
Five and a half years! I'll be dead by then for sure.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:51:51 UTC No. 16431797
>>16431793
Probably best not to land on something with an electric motor attached. The pins aren't that heavy.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:54:07 UTC No. 16431800
>>16431732
More or less yeah but I’ll remind you that even with its fuckery, NASA does better missions than ESA or JAXA or POCKOCMOC or India. USA is advanced enough to grift things like Perseverance and still mog everyone else. It’s sort of biting us in the ankle now though with things like MSR. To be seen if China will end up getting the win here, or if USA can do what it has historically done best and ramp-up resources and money and push it over the goal line and get a Mars sample return that is more spectacular than anything China could retrieve
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:54:28 UTC No. 16431801
>>16431797
The best part is no part, anon
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:56:13 UTC No. 16431803
>>16431559
>Symphonie back in 1972
What? Trying to look info for it, can't find it.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:56:24 UTC No. 16431804
>>16431793
Other way around. They were going to land on the fins then realized for many reasons it is a bad idea and went with the lift points instead
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:58:12 UTC No. 16431805
Are the ship lift points protected by anything because some parts that were sticking out during reentry looked very red
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:59:00 UTC No. 16431809
>>16431747
Even if this WERE true, how is it a “gotcha” against SpaceX? I’ve never understood this. If some “““private””” Russian or Chinese company was catching reusable super heavy lift boosters with a tower and pushing people as far out as the Gemini program and building a skyscraper lunar lander it would still be impressive even if they were just a shadow branch of the govt masquerade as some independent company.
SpaceX is actually doing these things, and yes while they get hefty contracts from NASA and the DoD and while yes, they probably wouldn’t exist without a bunch of govt contracts early in their history that kept them on life support when they were struggling, they’re still independent and have independent investors and now generate their own money independently. NASA didn’t instruct them to do reusable F9, to build two Super Heavy Lift Rockets, to fly people to orbit outside of NASA programs, etc.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:59:13 UTC No. 16431810
>>16431749
>Build launch complex on swamp
Are they stupid?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:59:25 UTC No. 16431811
>>16431804
The guy on stream seemed to think catching the ship is gonna take a lot longer to figure out, I wonder why, seems easy enough
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:02:15 UTC No. 16431818
weird how people discuss starlink nowadays when i remember reading about the startups of the late 90s and early 2000s who all tried to start megaconstellations and went bankrupt. i think it was during the initial earth to earth presentation that starlink was announced. i thought they may have gone a bridge too far.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:02:16 UTC No. 16431819
>>16431810
KSC is also built on a swamp.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:03:00 UTC No. 16431820
>>16431805
They're just big chunks of steel, no help needed.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:06:19 UTC No. 16431825
>>16431768
Solid's haven't completely lost their economic case. You just need to be content with small payloads and need a lot of extracurricular work to get the economies of scale moving. India's SSLV is as cheap as it is because it's 99% an Agni V missile with a double-length first stage. If it didn't also have to carry classic Indian bureaucratic and commercial inefficiencies it could have stolen some business from Rocket Lab.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:06:57 UTC No. 16431826
oh so it is uncrewed and i kept reading unscrewed (which is a more common word).
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:07:10 UTC No. 16431827
>>16431632
>$100/kg (internally)
Next gen Starlinks
SpaceX funded Mars missions
>$1000/kg (external customers)
Everything else
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:10:15 UTC No. 16431835
>>16431747
1) Europe hates American success cause we're practically cousins who are outshining them
2) Europeans are stagnating and they want to blame everything on Capitalism instead of their own government policies
3) Musk represents the best of America and he is seen as a threat to their communist governance
4) Endless seething and coping
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:12:04 UTC No. 16431838
How likely is it for the regime to try and rewrite the history and give all the credit for space exploration to NASA and the federal govt ? The way it is an "indigenous day" today, they could also one day erase any mentioning of a certain far right figure and just casually mention SpaceX, a small subsidiary that did some work for NASA and the big government.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:13:07 UTC No. 16431839
>>16431838
Depends on who wins the election.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:13:44 UTC No. 16431841
>>16430531
>10x over budget on a fixed price contract
Dunning-Kruger
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:15:32 UTC No. 16431844
>>16430095
>the engines are the most expensive part!
Way to show you don't know shit, dude.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:16:27 UTC No. 16431846
>>16431835
This is the average eurocuck who hates Musk.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:16:48 UTC No. 16431847
>>16431838
He flew too close to the synagogue so he will be intentionally written out of history books
Right now Henry Ford is hardly ever mentioned but his invention of assembly line production and the car and the American middle class industrial worker was considered so revolutionary he was praised worldwide, even by communist and fascist leaders.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:16:55 UTC No. 16431848
>>16430117
If the opinions of the real world experts who are accomplishing incredible things seem stupid to you, it's actually because you're stupid, not them.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:17:03 UTC No. 16431849
>>16431810
Not very much choice if you don't want people around and being near water
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:19:18 UTC No. 16431853
>>16430184
>the media who hate elon aren't talking much about his accomplishments, therefore they don't matter!
People think we have a good handle on keeping AI aligned to human interests when we haven't even figured out how to get humans to align to human interests.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:19:50 UTC No. 16431854
>>16429735
>girlmeat
WWW buffalo bill transformers go into asylums
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:20:19 UTC No. 16431857
>>16431803
Symphonie was going to be the first geostationary communications satellite that wasn't a spin-stabilized soup cap. Having three-axis control using gyroscopes allowed it have a much larger power budget than its competitors, which allowed it have a lot more and more powerful transponders with more communication channels and better signal reception. Unfortunately, it was also supposed to launch on the Europa rocket, which was canned in 1971 after its sixth consecutive test failure. That meant that the satellite team had to go shopping for a launcher, and since the Soviets weren't interested America was the only option in town.
This was a problem as the State Department owned a controlling interest in the Intelsat consortium, which owned almost all of the smaller soup cap satellites that Symphonie was about to render obsolete. They got their launch license and Symphonie-A & B were launched on a pair of Delta 2914s in 1974 and 75, but on the condition they not be used for commercial purposes.
Europe was so rightfully pissed over this that they got their act together and designed the Ariane 1.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:21:53 UTC No. 16431859
>>16430319
>ballistic missiles
>in a world with brilliant pebbles
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:22:00 UTC No. 16431860
>>16431857
Source?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:24:32 UTC No. 16431866
>>16430326
>Deorbit burn
EZ
>Catch ship
EZ
>Prop transfer (full scale)
EZ
>Starlink/Pez deployment
EZ
>Reflight booster
EZ (may take a few weeks to turnaround at first)
>Reflight ship
EZ (may take a few weeks etc)
>Chomper variant
EZ
>Tanker variant
EZ
>Depot variant
EZ
>Starship V2
EZ
>Starship V3 (longship?)
EZ
>Raptor V3
EZ
>HLS life support/crew cabin, air lock, etc
LIFE SUPPORT IS EASYYYY
>HLS hot gas thrusters
EZ
>Landing legs for P2P/Mars/Moon
EZ
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:26:44 UTC No. 16431870
>>16431790
I'm imagining what a multi-flight booster might look like, the pearlescence is going to be kino
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:30:03 UTC No. 16431877
>>16431847
It'll be harder to do that with Elon because of the successes of SpaceX, Starlink, Starship, Tesla, and Neuralink. He's disrupted way too many sectors and services simultaneously to be written out of history now.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:33:13 UTC No. 16431882
>>16431440
>all antisemites do, they believe the sky is a dome and the Earth is only 4k years old and that "We aint descended from no dang monkeys neither!"
As an anti-semite this is libel. Eratosthenes was an Aryan genius. Meanwhile over at the synagogue...
>The rabbis of the Talmud believed that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the Earth every day. There is a debate about the length of the solar year in the Talmud, and its consequences and the rare Jewish ceremony of the Blessing of the Sun (Birkat Hahammah) are discussed. The view of the talmudic rabbis is contrasted with that of the contemporary Greek astronomers. While the rabbis of the Talmud argued about the size of the flat Earth, the Greeks had determined the Earth to be a sphere, had calculated its circumference and had moved on to consider other questions.
https://academic.oup.com/book/1751/
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:36:31 UTC No. 16431884
>>16431455
>doesn't know about metastable helium
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:37:27 UTC No. 16431886
What will stop SpaceX from simply putting a fully fueled falcon upper stage and its payload for these kinds high energy missions? Could probably get a direct transfer to Titan with Dragonfly that way.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:38:29 UTC No. 16431887
>>94152322
>>94150390
I went ahead with it and the results seem good so far. I might have gone too thin in some places, but anywhere I could see a milky color I sucked up with a dry brush and distributed evenly. They're drying now, but look a little better in some cases.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:38:43 UTC No. 16431888
>>16431886
it's not that easy in rocketry
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:40:28 UTC No. 16431889
>>16431857
Interesting history. Thanks
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:41:41 UTC No. 16431890
>>16431860
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symph
>1972: The failure of the Europa II launch vehicle and the abandonment of the program (which had been led by the ELDO) triggers a crisis; it is uncertain if development should continue or, if so, how the satellites will be deployed. After some governmental hesitation, the program continues. The satellites will be launched by the American Thor Delta 2914 satellite-launch vehicles, at the cost of a restrictive agreement; any commercial use of Symphonie is forbidden by the U.S. State Department.
The Wikipedia article is pretty bloodless (and I think ESL'ed from a foreign language fork) when it turns the controversy into a footnote. If you want to read all the seething and fist-shaking and furious promises of revenge you've got to dig into some published accounts of the early history of the ESA and the development of Ariane.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:42:48 UTC No. 16431891
>>16431886
Uhmm rockets aren't Lego! Why? Because I say so!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:43:22 UTC No. 16431895
Peeps, why isn't SpaceX sending Starships and whatnot already to Mars, with food and whatnot?
They can stay there, waiting, until the first humans get there.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:45:15 UTC No. 16431898
>>16431895
They still need to test whether they can refuel a starship or else they won't have the fuel to make it to the moon or mars. Ie IFT7 and IFT8
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:47:47 UTC No. 16431900
>>16431891
They are not and spacex learned it with fh
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:56:20 UTC No. 16431913
>>16431908
"they all laughed at me"
"well they're not laughing now"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:03:41 UTC No. 16431917
>>16431659
Sexy ass fucking rocket WHEW I love her
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:05:06 UTC No. 16431919
>>16431649
You can't afford $20,000, fatty
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:09:10 UTC No. 16431928
>>16431898
I see. Ty ty
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:17:22 UTC No. 16431933
>>16431393
I mean for connecting the station modules themselves. You'd still want smaller ports on the end to dock spacecraft. Pic related
Obviously using the same port everywhere allows you to configure it in any order, but it's not that hard to just plan your launches to construct it in a certain order.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:22:17 UTC No. 16431939
What provides electricity in the rocket? Just batteries?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:23:46 UTC No. 16431940
>>16431933
No one involved has the money or time to design and prove a new port standard. SpaceX has, but a new bigger port isn't necessary for Mars.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:24:30 UTC No. 16431941
My Boomer dad says everyone thought the space shuttle was going to be the le reusable cheap LEO machine, but obviously that wasn't the case
I hope we see the same starship booster launch twice in one week at some point soon. It's the only way to dispel the fears of expensive refurbishment process
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:26:30 UTC No. 16431945
>>16431474
And what would this be good for, space laser #36825?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:27:00 UTC No. 16431946
>>16431939
I'd say so yeah
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:27:30 UTC No. 16431949
noone involved in the shuttle program would have thought it was going to be cheap or reinvent anything
and naturally government programs don't reduce costs, they have budgets that they need to spend
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:31:41 UTC No. 16431954
whatever SpaceX does internally to design, implement, and test software needs to be studied. The kind of avionics they pull off first try always astound me, even in the face of hardware failure.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:32:58 UTC No. 16431956
>>16431954
>first try
They've admittedly had a bit of practice from landing F9 for some time now. Doesn't make the tower landing any less impressive.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:33:59 UTC No. 16431958
>>16431941
>everyone thought
It was what it was sold as to everyone. Of course they thought it.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:34:07 UTC No. 16431960
the software is like the easiest part of it all
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:34:37 UTC No. 16431961
>>16431960
tell that to boeing
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:34:46 UTC No. 16431963
>>16430890
not spaceflight
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:35:33 UTC No. 16431964
>>16431949
>they have budgets that they need to spend
This is something most people don't understand. If budgets from the state don't get spent, they get less funding the next fiscal year, so they throw it away on whatever in the end.
>>16431961
Boing had more hardware issues on the shitliner than that programming errors. To be expected from a program they don't actually want to continue since it's bleeding money for them.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:35:35 UTC No. 16431965
>>16431954
Leadership molds the company. The one that needs to be studied is Musk. Berger's books are great side effect analysis. But you still see some aspects of how Musk operates from time to time. Like when F1 was being launched, Musk was thinking about how to acquire material parts for Falcon 9, even in the middle of the launch countdown. This left some of the guys confused as to why Musk wasn't "in the moment". Musk not only has a "long term" vision but also is actively involved in all process of acquisition of resources, which he offloads to his lieutenants to carry out his orders.
Critics accuse musk of only hiring "yes men" but Musk only hires "yes men" because they get the job done. The orders are to be either 1) followed 2) ask Musk/other how to do so. Not "NOOOO IT CAN BE"
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:36:32 UTC No. 16431967
>>16431954
Many have described SpaceX as a software company that just happens to have good hardware lol. Obviously a bit of an exaggeration (don’t discount material design miracles from raptor, building intense pressure tanks out of sheet metal with silly little welds, etc) but the point of the saying is to emphasize the 2000 IQ coding that they are capable of
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:38:33 UTC No. 16431969
>>16431075
Because there's a not particularly old woman with heavy makeup and obviously styled hair who has a very emotive expression on her face and a lot of her skin is visible.
The lighting is probably a factor, too.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:38:52 UTC No. 16431971
>>16431968
Slightly annealed and mildly battered. I worry about about the engine bells that went all wonky and if it'll influence their re-entry profile or eat the loss in added weight.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:39:10 UTC No. 16431972
>>16431968
looks completely fine, refuel and go again!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:39:14 UTC No. 16431973
>>16431968
Gonna be parked outside in the Starbase as a tourist attraction. Fucking thing is a history maker
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:40:28 UTC No. 16431975
>>16431968
The lack of soot really is something to behold
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:40:42 UTC No. 16431976
what's the chance that spacex kills a crew in artemis?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:41:29 UTC No. 16431978
>>16431976
50/50
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:41:38 UTC No. 16431980
>>16431976
Fairly low since NASA are absolute safety cucks and won't let anyone onto one until it's been tested out the arse.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:41:49 UTC No. 16431981
>>16431976
an artemis crew? 0
eventually? 100
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:43:05 UTC No. 16431983
>>16431968
Are they gonna park this one outside Starbase like they did in Hawthorne?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:45:02 UTC No. 16431987
>>16431983
Put it next to the Saturn V in Houston
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:45:13 UTC No. 16431989
https://x.com/GeorgieC/status/18458
After seeing the Starship launch and the Superheavy catch, Falcon Heavy launch here seems bit underwhelming
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:45:23 UTC No. 16431990
They're publishing new views from the Starship launch:
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845954
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845958
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:45:31 UTC No. 16431991
>>16431929
heh, with all the fog I thought this was a snowy Russian launch image!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:49:31 UTC No. 16431999
https://x.com/rfa_space/status/1845
>Congratulations to @SpaceX
, what an incredible feat of engineering! Mars, here we come.
>At the same time, the coin has a second side: it shows and confirms that #Europe has completely lost touch. Can it still catch up? No chance. At least not the way things are going at the moment.
>...
>What we need immediately and systematically are state anchor customers, substantial investment, and a framework that allows and promotes unbureaucratic, fast and risk-taking development.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:52:48 UTC No. 16432004
>>16431418
>This mentality is why they are a vassal state of America
It's primarily because they were conquered and an occupation government was installed. The pre-war Japanese were extremely competitive and warlike, so you can't blame their defeat and utlimately the occupation on this mentality either.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:59:40 UTC No. 16432015
>>16431534
>Giga Vance : I believe the destiny of this country is to rape the stars. Whatever your views of Elon's politics, this is something that should inspire all of us.
Are you happy now?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:01:51 UTC No. 16432018
>>16431593
Elon was talking about Jeff Who!?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:01:51 UTC No. 16432019
>>16431968
Still looks great apart from the chunk out of that strake.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:03:35 UTC No. 16432020
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:05:44 UTC No. 16432025
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:10:08 UTC No. 16432030
>>16431976
I'd be more worried about the Orion portions of the mission
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:10:22 UTC No. 16432031
>>16431958
How does know starship is different?
This might be a really easy question, i just have no context for shuttle hype so I can't compare
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:15:38 UTC No. 16432035
>>16431747
It's common to many delusional people: their situation is so bad that if they accepted the truth they would simply lay down and die.
So instead they tell themselves it's not really true and that things are really much better, and they violently reject any suggestion to the contrary.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:16:18 UTC No. 16432038
Why did scott say this?
https://files.catbox.moe/i60vvy.mp3
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:17:05 UTC No. 16432040
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845966
THIS FUCKING CAM VIEW
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:17:13 UTC No. 16432042
>>16432031
>How does know starship is different?
Gut instinct.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:18:49 UTC No. 16432043
>>16431941
Its called Falcon 9. Its already 1/10th to 1/20th the cost of Shuttle launch per KG and launches more than shuttle.
When Starship gets rolling, the scales are gonna go bonkers.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:21:10 UTC No. 16432046
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:21:14 UTC No. 16432047
>>16432040
Fuck yeah baby this is awesome
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:22:41 UTC No. 16432048
>>16432040
Ohhhh
I finally understand how catching works. It actually looks much simpler than I thought. I used to think it's aiming for some hole.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:24:00 UTC No. 16432049
>>16432046
Dampeners/cushins are great
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:24:56 UTC No. 16432050
>>16432046
Unbelievable!!!
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:26:52 UTC No. 16432051
>>16432046
kinda bounces a little
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:28:27 UTC No. 16432054
>>16432051
The arms/tower shake a bit, I wonder if they'll try guidewires like a big radio antenna?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:34:48 UTC No. 16432059
>>16432046
the shaking on the gridfins is so violent. if we saw this on falcon it would never make it. the shaking cant be good for reusability
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:40:13 UTC No. 16432066
>>16432059
falcon 9 flew back with molten gridfins
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:40:55 UTC No. 16432067
>>16432059
The shaking will get worse since they want to remove one or even two gridfins.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:45:48 UTC No. 16432071
Any idea if the chopsticks were remotely controlled by an operator or the whole process was fully automatic based on some sensors and radio communication between the tower and the booster?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:47:47 UTC No. 16432072
>>16431939
probably solar panels plus charge controllers and LiPo batteries.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:47:57 UTC No. 16432074
>>16432071
100% automatic
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:51:02 UTC No. 16432079
>>16432071
Both booster and chopsticks were manually controlled with an Xbox controller. Booster right thumbstick, chopsticks left.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:52:22 UTC No. 16432081
>>16432071
Elon personally controlled them via Kinect.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:54:11 UTC No. 16432083
>>16432081
Now I want to play a game on the Playstation 2 Eyetoy where you swing your arms together at the right moment to catch the on-screen booster.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:55:55 UTC No. 16432084
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:58:28 UTC No. 16432087
>>16432066
but they werent shaking
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:58:31 UTC No. 16432088
>>16432081
No he used his phone. That's why he was glued to it during the landing.
That's also why he has so many sons. When starship cadence ramps up, they will assist him
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:58:58 UTC No. 16432089
Now I want to build a miniature replica.
I am thinking of a small quadcopter with a dildo attached to it. it will slowly descend towards the tower with two servo powered arms that would sense the dildo and grab on it. I am going to sketch some diagrams
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 23:59:41 UTC No. 16432090
>>16432067
removing fins is a great path to lower dry mass. im skeptical they can get away with just 2 fins but would be cool if they could
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:03:23 UTC No. 16432095
>>16432079
>>16432081
unironically, you obviously can't control the booster but manually operating the catching arms is feasible. not that it is a great idea, but i can't see why it couldn't be attempted just for fun. it doesn't have to be a split second reaction, so a good gamer would probably manage to activate the arms at the right moment.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:03:41 UTC No. 16432096
>>16432071
lmao imagine if they were actually manually controlled and someone having the job of pressing a button with the right timing otherwise the comnpany loses hundreds of millions of dollars
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:04:39 UTC No. 16432097
>>16432096
would have to be Elon himself. he could do it!
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:07:23 UTC No. 16432098
>>16431954
It's just a couple of PID loops
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:08:43 UTC No. 16432100
>>16432097
he streams his d4 gameplay, he isnt good at pressing buttons
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:11:41 UTC No. 16432103
>>16431954
Motherfuckers are extremely secretive about their designs. They could have published their code on github and also hardware designs with schematics and gerber files and open source everything the way they did it with Tesla.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:19:00 UTC No. 16432106
>>16432103
ITAR
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:24:15 UTC No. 16432108
>>16431971
Who needs round engine bells anyway. Just launch again. It'll be fiiine.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:25:56 UTC No. 16432110
>>16432108
theyll buff out
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:29:00 UTC No. 16432113
>>16431971
the booster is overweight and has higher length to width than was planned in the orignal ITS back when the plan for no entry burn was made. the primary reason they thought they could skip an entry burn was because ofhow wide starship iscomparedto falcon, but at this point the difference isnt so big
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:33:40 UTC No. 16432117
>>16432095
>you obviously can't control the booster
Wrong
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:36:14 UTC No. 16432119
>>16432095
>you obviously can't control the booster
You can't
I can
Same vibes as people saying you can't solo control a tank. I do it every day in sims lok
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:37:09 UTC No. 16432120
>>16429735
literally everybody in that thread including the op are troon communist furries. thank god those people arent going to be involved in space colonization
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:37:56 UTC No. 16432122
Can someone give me plausible ideas on how to build a habit pressure vessel with ISRU on mars/the moon that actually can hold 1/2 atm of pressure and doesn’t require an on site steel mill or textile factory?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:42:07 UTC No. 16432127
>>16429875
if trump gets in again nasa wont care about overrelying on spacex
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:43:54 UTC No. 16432131
>>16429883
the issues are all easily fixable and unlike falcon 9 starship is designed from the ground up for reuse so that is a poor comparison
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:48:00 UTC No. 16432135
>>16430985
isn't that what Blue Origin/ULA plan to do long term?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:48:34 UTC No. 16432137
>>16432122
Cut blocks of stone and stack them.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:50:38 UTC No. 16432139
Man I hope Raptor 3 is going well, it feels like a lot of problems ride on being solved by it.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:52:52 UTC No. 16432141
>>16430117
the raped
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:58:17 UTC No. 16432144
>>16430117
>dare criticize SpaceX as a corporation and its shitty owner
Your opinion is incorrect, discarded.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:02:16 UTC No. 16432148
>>16432100
doesn't he have a WR or something
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:05:38 UTC No. 16432151
>>16430433
this is outdated as hell because V1 will probably be retired by flight 7
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:05:44 UTC No. 16432152
>>16432131
>poor comparison
you really don't know that falcon 9 was also designed from the ground up to be reused?
there is even a video about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWF
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:06:47 UTC No. 16432154
>>16431811
tiles could be damaged from contact
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:10:13 UTC No. 16432157
>>16431817
night time launch would be so kino
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:15:08 UTC No. 16432161
>>16432025
damn, what an angle! Looks like the super heavy came out of a wormhole for the landing
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:27:05 UTC No. 16432173
>>16431318
who gives a fuck whether the slavic shitholes over there are ruled by oligarchs from moscow or oligarchs from kyiv
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:29:14 UTC No. 16432174
Did any /sfg/gers show up to that meetup? It was like 4AM at SPI Denny’s. I didnt go because that sounded like a recipe for getting a knife in your neck as well as being highly federal.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:32:44 UTC No. 16432176
>>16432174
Why are /sfg/ pastey anons such pussies lol
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:39:21 UTC No. 16432179
>>16431989
You are a dumb nigga if you don't know how significant the Europa Clipper launch is.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:46:29 UTC No. 16432187
>>16432179
He's got a bit of EDS. His "anxiousness" is EDS leaking. You're too stupid to understand that. There's a worlds different from a brand new rocket system doing a once thought impossible and a proven and reliable rocket system doing proven things.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:51:02 UTC No. 16432191
>>16432176
>just let me doxx/murder you bro
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 01:59:45 UTC No. 16432201
>>16432187
Ehh... It's kinda justified, any fuckup at any point (either launch or deployment) means $5bn+ and a decades worth of effort just going up in smoke. I'd be pretty anxious too
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:00:43 UTC No. 16432203
>>16432201
No, you're just retarded and trying to cope. A reliable system is reliable. Regardless of $1 payload or $10 trillion payload.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:07:19 UTC No. 16432208
>>16432206
I know right? Beards are so ugly
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:11:28 UTC No. 16432213
>>16432206
reminds me of that blacked meme with the single chick surrounded by the guys
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:12:26 UTC No. 16432216
>>16432213
Thats a man you porn brained coomer retard.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:14:14 UTC No. 16432219
>>16432216
yeah, and?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:14:41 UTC No. 16432220
>>16432215
what does vov stand for?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:20:31 UTC No. 16432224
>>16432220
vague orifice (vagina)
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:25:07 UTC No. 16432231
>>16432218
the mexicans that welded this section are the payload for the next flight
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:27:46 UTC No. 16432233
>>16432230
>8 billion impressions
So, more or less everyone alive saw it? Idk what "impressions" is.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:28:01 UTC No. 16432234
>>16432231
kek
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:29:42 UTC No. 16432236
>>16432233
A post is viewed or interacted with via repost, like, etc. I think.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:30:25 UTC No. 16432237
>>16432174
I made the 4 AM at Denny's post. I never had any intention of going to Denny's. I did watch the launch near a fat guy with some kind of anime shit on his t-shirt, though, so I guess that was basically an /sfg/ meetup.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:33:20 UTC No. 16432239
>>16432236
Sounds like a weird skewed sort of metric to me, but even so it's probably representative of a fuckton of people no matter what.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:36:16 UTC No. 16432241
>>16432220
Vent-off valve? My best guess
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:39:48 UTC No. 16432246
>>16432237
>I made the 4 AM at Denny's post. I never had any intention of going to Denny's.
Based. I was bored sitting in my car at like 3 and couldn't sleep because of how muggy it was, so I was going to walk to Denny's but decided against it in case I encountered a meetup.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:48:56 UTC No. 16432252
>>16432247
>"real men arent andrew tate, they're samwise gamgee"
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:49:12 UTC No. 16432253
What will Muskrats do when Drumpf loses and Momala nationalizes SpaceX and brings back the Shuttle?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:50:09 UTC No. 16432254
>>16432240
>more than $1000 trillion to build a city on mars using oldspace numbers
huh, surreal, but makes sense. in my mind I was always used to the cost of just a couple of flag-and-footprints mission, which I'd estimate at around 2-10 trillion usd in total, all this using oldspace architecture. if you wanna go even further beyond and build a large settlement, call it a city, then it just becomes impossible as it would for sure surpass the global GDP at such rate.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:51:17 UTC No. 16432255
>>16432254
Just say quadrillion, this fuckhead always gets on my nerves
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:52:29 UTC No. 16432257
>>16432247
My wife cried, and she doesn't give a shit about space. I pretty much had to drag her down there, and spent the entire trip berating her with unprompted rocket facts. It really was a spectacular and visceral event though, from launch to catch, and it is very easy to get caught up in the emotion of the crowd.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:52:56 UTC No. 16432258
>>16432254
>big thing impossible because money
Sometimes despite my most fervent desires I wonder whether or not humanity deserves to colonize the stars.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:53:33 UTC No. 16432259
>>16432257
Are you the same guy who gets angry on here then beats his kids up.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:56:14 UTC No. 16432264
>>16432081
>>16432083
wait a moment. i didn't post this. somebody else is posting on sfg from the same location as me lol.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:58:27 UTC No. 16432270
>>16432264
guess theres another person who posts on sfg at my university... great i guess?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:58:41 UTC No. 16432271
>>16432264
Anon attended the /sfg/ meetup I bet. You see why I dont go to these things?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:59:05 UTC No. 16432272
>>16432240
so given that these are elon numbers we think the real values will be what, 10 trillion to get a mars colony to roughly self sustaining?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 02:59:54 UTC No. 16432274
>>16432270
What state? Also you two little fags need to do a meetup.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:00:01 UTC No. 16432275
>>16432108
this, won't the force of the exhaust re-round the bells?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:01:49 UTC No. 16432276
>>16432268
watching the sonic boom shockwaves travel across the condensation mist from the fuel farm feed lines that bleed through the ground and cover the waters of the conservation area is cool as fuck
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:03:27 UTC No. 16432277
>>16432259
No. I beat my kids because of their own personal failings, not my losing internet arguments. Also, the word I was looking for is 'harangue' not 'berate.'
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:04:04 UTC No. 16432278
>>16432247
yikes
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:05:15 UTC No. 16432279
>>16431737
Huh, so they did have a single engine fail to light.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:05:30 UTC No. 16432280
>>16432277
Why do you beat your children you monster.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:05:52 UTC No. 16432281
>>16432279
No, it lit. It just burned out after its initial landing burn was complete.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:07:48 UTC No. 16432283
>>16432203
Yeah, but even reliable systems fail eventually. Either way it's not EDS in the sense he's wondering why they're even using FH but more in the sense that he hopes everything goes well.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:12:40 UTC No. 16432284
>>16432281
Got any other views of it lit before this? I'd imagine it would still be spewing burning propellant if it had.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:13:10 UTC No. 16432286
>>16432173
>oligarchs from kyiv
they are in Tel Aviv for the duration of the war
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:15:55 UTC No. 16432289
>>16432254
Although I'm still unsure as to what an extent oldspace could actually "build" a city on Mars. Imagine a timeline like in the movie The Martian, where NASA and heritage contractors somehow wake up during the early 2000s, congressmen start actually giving a little bit of shit about space, and the race is on. Spend couple of trillions here and there, and you end up with a small base on Mars in the early 20s. Suppose the budget never decreases and missions are not cancelled à la Apollo, then what's next? Spam the ever living shit of the Earth atmosphere with thousands of Ares V till getting a million tons on the Martian surface? Sure, that could inflate the total cost to at least 100 trillion usd? But I don't see how the cost rate wouldn't just go down after so much cadence from this point onwards. Notice that I assumed a worst-case scenario where space technology stayed the same, no new R&D, NTR, etc. The amount of grift and incompetence necessary to reach a 1-quadrillion-usd figure would be unbelievable, I don't know if that level of grift is even possible in the real world lol. Point is, Musk is using current numbers, which are way worse, and assumes that they are static as a form of comparison (nothing wrong with that), so he can show the dire state of the space industry as of today.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:18:47 UTC No. 16432290
>>16432247
All 3 of these posts are retarded
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:22:55 UTC No. 16432294
>>16432215
The FAA makes them wait so long between flights they have to label what stuff is on the ship so they don't forget
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:31:13 UTC No. 16432303
>>16432286
You need to go back >>>/pol/
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:34:50 UTC No. 16432306
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status
>SpaceX is preparing to launch a pair of Falcon 9 rocket missions overnight with a total of 43 Starlink satellites between them. Starlink 10-10 and Starlink 9-7 will mark the 95th and 96th Falcon 9 rockets launched in 2024.
SpaceX never sleeps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6
Live in 60 minutes
T-2:00:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpB
Live in 4 hours
T-4:30:00
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:42:10 UTC No. 16432311
>>16432265
Wait in line, haumeacuck, Eris and Dysnomia are more important.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:43:32 UTC No. 16432313
>>16432306
>with a total of 43 Starlink satellites between them. Starlink 10-10 and Starlink 9-7 will mark the 95th and 96th Falcon 9 rockets launched in 2024.
Holy smokes that's a lot. The rate of acceleration is crazy, NASA BTFO
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:46:32 UTC No. 16432316
>>16432311
Post your own Space Engine gif then or YWNGTE, or any KBO for that matter
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:48:54 UTC No. 16432319
>>16432274
austria
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:51:02 UTC No. 16432322
>>16432319
ew. get back to your turd world uni then and dont tell us again.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:52:58 UTC No. 16432324
>>16432253
>I MAED POOPY PANTS! BLUMPF!!!
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:54:29 UTC No. 16432326
>>16432253
>nationalizes SpaceX
Thats just NASA, the US gov already have a space admin
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:59:21 UTC No. 16432331
just watched the europa clipper stream and it's embarrassingly old space even if it is using a SpaceX rocket
especially hearing the announcer say the views were brought by ground stations right before the video cuts out
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:01:02 UTC No. 16432333
>>16432247
Based Scott
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:01:49 UTC No. 16432335
>>16432247
ngl I teared up a bit
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:02:15 UTC No. 16432336
https://youtu.be/5GjOuqAlFEk
An unfortunate opinion shared my cody
Tldr: Mars should be a nature preserve with absolutely no human contact for the foreseeable future, maybe a hundred years. Until we can be sure there's no life
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:02:52 UTC No. 16432337
I don't think any future Starship flights will match the same level of sheer excitement anymore after seeing the first tower catch. Well I suppose apart from an actual Mars landing, but that won't be live streamed. There's still the ship catch, but now it seems so doable, after seeing that the tower contraption actually works smoothly
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:03:09 UTC No. 16432339
>>16432336
What if there is life but I want to dominate it?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:03:26 UTC No. 16432340
>>16432185
Soon we will have a launch cadence this quick
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:04:38 UTC No. 16432342
>>16432336
How about we instead throw you and him under IFT-6 and have you double grilled with the landing, and then dump your charred husks on Mars just to spite you?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:05:50 UTC No. 16432343
>>16432322
wasn't me. alaska. i actually saw one of the kodiak launch attempts lol
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:06:57 UTC No. 16432346
>>16432337
Theres a difference between orbital insertion and landing and what the Boosters do.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:07:52 UTC No. 16432348
>>16432336
no surprise. he has EDS. comment section is horrific and filled with anti colonization fags
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:08:11 UTC No. 16432349
>>16432343
Oh wait thats right we have an Alaskanon I forgor about that
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:09:17 UTC No. 16432351
>>16432349
yeah. guess we have two now lol
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:10:15 UTC No. 16432352
>>16432336
I like codyslab but his take is cringe
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:14:08 UTC No. 16432353
>>16432336
just like how musk wanted to launch a greenhouse to mars, someone has to launch literal human excrement to mars to kill planetary protection once and for all
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:14:54 UTC No. 16432354
>>16432346
On the other hand the ship has done successful water landings already, so we know that it can do it. Then you just do it into the chopsticks
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:17:32 UTC No. 16432356
>>16432337
mars will have it's own starlink constellation before people even get there
the landing will be live streamed for all
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:21:01 UTC No. 16432358
>>16432356
You are retarded. There is no point in wasting Starships on Starlinks for Mars. Each one takes 14 Earth Starship launches. Just set up a factory on Mars and save money on fuel retard, even less gravity and brings jobs to Martian colony.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:22:20 UTC No. 16432360
>>16432358
I can imagine the job listings on X for Mars Starlink jobs
I assume a relocation package would be included
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:24:46 UTC No. 16432363
>>16432360
But ofcourse, the money saved on fuel usage in making the constellation is worth much more than that spent on transporting some employees.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:29:27 UTC No. 16432365
>>16432336
>Mars should be a nature preserve with absolutely no human contact
REQUEST DENIED
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:33:14 UTC No. 16432368
>>16432365
>he thinks its a request
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:41:08 UTC No. 16432371
>>16432336
Scientists and academics are holding back science and academia
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:42:00 UTC No. 16432372
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:42:01 UTC No. 16432373
>>16432371
Academicists. Someone didnt pass 8th grade english class!
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:44:18 UTC No. 16432376
>>16432373
No I passed, I'm actually fairly smart
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:44:48 UTC No. 16432377
>>16432373
Nobody cares. Even academics say academics these days.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:45:27 UTC No. 16432378
>>16432373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwU
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:52:12 UTC No. 16432380
>>16432336
Yeah a couple monkeys is gonna wipe out the entire Mars biosphere. The hubris lmao. Just don't go to Mars until every square milimeter on and under the surface is searched.
>wait 100 years
Does this guy work for JPL?
>nuke the first human landing site on mars to sterilize it
>good idea
what the fuck is this guy smoking
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:08:10 UTC No. 16432390
>>16432336
I hate crabs so much it's UNREAL bros
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:10:41 UTC No. 16432392
>>16432390
Ywngts and you will be happy
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:11:11 UTC No. 16432393
>>16432373
They're faggots i'm not gonna call them a fancy name
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:17:36 UTC No. 16432398
>>16432336
He's a closet leftist with a weak personality and his gf was right to leave him.
>>16432352
His channel is interesting and well made but I dislike him personally
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:19:30 UTC No. 16432400
>>16432353
ISRO is on the job
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:20:31 UTC No. 16432401
>>16432358
SLS can launch starlinks to Mars as its final mission
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:24:20 UTC No. 16432402
>>16432400
SIRRR, dont forget to close the hatch this time!
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:26:14 UTC No. 16432406
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:38:49 UTC No. 16432413
>>16432401
Humiliation ritual but roggets
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:45:08 UTC No. 16432415
have the jannies just stopped enforcing page 10 staging
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:48:15 UTC No. 16432417
>>16432415
Image limit staging, nigger. They enforced page 10 during the last IFT when someone spammed fake /sfg/s, PRE IMAGELIMIT AND PAGE 10. Accept the fact that image limit staging is, has and always will be legitimate. Just because youre a newfag who wasnt here for IFT-4 doesnt mean you know everything.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:49:24 UTC No. 16432418
>>16432417
To clarify, IFT-5 they enforced, this anon was also clearly not here for IFT-4
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:53:30 UTC No. 16432419
>>16432416
why the delay? there's no way it got delayed for 6 months because of (((weather))), so what's the real reason?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:55:07 UTC No. 16432423
>>16432402
>SIRRR
lmao, i didn't sleep too much and thought for a second there that was the name of some new indian rocket, considering how they usually name them: SLV, GSLV. PSLV, etc
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:58:12 UTC No. 16432430
STAGING (image limit)
>>16432426
>>16432426
>>16432426
>>16432426
>>16432426
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:58:54 UTC No. 16432431
>>16432423
SIR - Space Indian Rocket, Super Indian Rocket, or something like that
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:09:34 UTC No. 16432441
>>16431811
the hard part is getting permission to bring it back in over populated areas, you don't want a repeat of the Columbia disaster with people picking up pieces of Starship from all over Texas
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:52:24 UTC No. 16432494
>>16432374
Somewhere Lily is smirking
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:27:06 UTC No. 16432668
>>16432239
Yes, it's a bullshit metric made up by marketers.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:57:37 UTC No. 16432701
>>16432336
I am a longtime Cody fan, this is funny to me because he even made one of those stupid "pick me for Mars" videos when that Mars colony thing was there, hes been so obsessed with going he wanted to build and setup a simulation at his new land even.. it's funny how he's saying be careful, now that we are actually here
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:04:58 UTC No. 16432753
>>16432358
Do you have any fucking idea how many more flights you would need to build a factory that can turn dirt into satellites you unbelievable retard
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:05:59 UTC No. 16432754
>>16432358
>brings jobs to Martian colony
Brings jobs to a place with an endless labor shortage?? Holy fuck dude
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:09:44 UTC No. 16432847
>>16432359
A real winner in showing Starlink's maturity. Just 20ms outage out of 66 mins of entire flight in space.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:33:26 UTC No. 16432883
>>16432337
I think you're hard underselling the spectacle of the ship catch. The drama of re-entry into belly flop into flip vertical, hover, and catch will completely mog the booster catch. The belly flop into flip is especially iconic and I think it's what will eventually supplant the Shuttle with Starship in the general public's imagination when they think of 'space'.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:50:12 UTC No. 16432987
>>16429715
>steal this look
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 04:28:14 UTC No. 16433906
>>16432424
>Pic
Wouldn't that be an RPRTG