🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:08:50 UTC No. 16442481
Love In The Void Edition
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EBOK at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:10:50 UTC No. 16442487
Fake Stage
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:11:25 UTC No. 16442488
>>16442487
>IT'S A BALLOON!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:12:58 UTC No. 16442490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpx
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:13:04 UTC No. 16442491
>>16442487
Shut up you brainlet namefag I included page 10 screenshot in stage
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:14:13 UTC No. 16442492
https://x.com/_mgde_/status/1848129
OP source btw
>>16442489
Sorry, it was name of the original
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:14:42 UTC No. 16442493
>>16442489
Every edition with you homos is a gay edition
EBOK at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:17:59 UTC No. 16442497
FUCK THIS HOMO TRADITIONAL THREAD ABOUT ONE FAILED ATTEMPT AT POPULATING MARS WITH A TENT AND SOME SEEDS. NERDSHIP MUST FALL. NOBODY CARES THAT THIS THREAD IS STAGED CORRECT
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:25:17 UTC No. 16442504
>>16442497
Fuck off
EBOK at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:26:28 UTC No. 16442506
>>16442504
Umad
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:35:39 UTC No. 16442515
>>16442503
>implying SpaceX will be allowed to have reactors
this is the only reason they're going to brute-force solar desu
EBOK at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:40:45 UTC No. 16442520
Ma ma ma. I want mars. I want this I want that. Beyond what everyone needs or who doesn't want much.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:43:06 UTC No. 16442522
>>16442514
it's really funny that he put the booster catch as the 'delivered' image. any aerospace company would bite your hand off to be able to deliver that within 10 years of starting a reusable first stage project
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:45:50 UTC No. 16442525
>>16442495
everything is going as planned (as much money as possible is being funneled into the right pockets)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:46:25 UTC No. 16442527
>>16442514
because felon husk will deliver ONLY 500k people to mars by 2050, not a million like he promised. DEBOONKED!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:47:33 UTC No. 16442528
>>16442503
if you have a 3k person colony, pic related doesnt really seem that bad
you need fields and fields of solar panels, so what?
plenty of free real-estate on mars
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:48:17 UTC No. 16442529
>>16442497
Damn all this seethe.
Are you the loser who’s been filling the catalog up with failstages? Is this the equivalent of stomping your feet because you didn’t get your way?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:51:15 UTC No. 16442534
>>16442495
you weren't under the impression that space is easy, were you anon?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:52:42 UTC No. 16442538
Does anyone else really want a Mars colony just so when thirdies shit on America we can refute their every point with >Mars colony?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:53:58 UTC No. 16442542
>>16442538
You can only do that so long as only america has mars colonies.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:54:42 UTC No. 16442543
>>16442506
you're the one posting high energy like a bipolar retard in his manic state, anon.
did you take your lithium yet?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:00:08 UTC No. 16442549
>>16442487
it's staged at page 10, therefore it is not a fake stage, retard-kun.
the ones filling up the catalog are failstages though.
considering we don't usually get this many failstages in a row i think it's the work of a very emotionally unbalanced individual who got his feelings hurt by /sfg/ somehow.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:06:21 UTC No. 16442557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E74
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSR
>build statite close to the sun that has a electron beam generator
>launch spacecraft that has multiple propulsion system
>1st system, electron beam is converted into rocket thrust by magic (this is a rocket because you have propellants on board, the electron beam is used for power delivery by direct conversion to exhaust with the propellant on board)
>you accelerate to 8% c after months
>start windmill rocket and get to 24% c (pic related is the rocket system)
>coast for 20 years
>start slowing down before you get to the next solar system using the interstellar medium with a magnetic or electric sail for a year
>get to other solar system
EBOK at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:08:15 UTC No. 16442559
>>16442557
If it is sun sized, it has seismic effect.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:13:54 UTC No. 16442563
what kind of mass-class will orbital built spacecraft be in 100 years from now?
will supercarrier-sized spacecraft become commonplace then?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:16:44 UTC No. 16442566
>>16442563
They'll just be oneil cylinders
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:19:26 UTC No. 16442570
>>16442563
would have to have some very good reason to build them
perhaps enough traffic that it makes sense and some systems might work better at larger scale than smaller (this is already the case for something like avionics system for small vs big rockets)
maybe something analogous exist for human carrying spacecraft
shielding might be one, some amenities would require a certain number of people for it to make sense to build
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:19:38 UTC No. 16442571
>>16442557
isn't this just a more complicated version of solar electric propulsion?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:20:30 UTC No. 16442572
>>16442566
aren't O'neill Cylinders supposed to be put into a orbit/L-point and stay there? not really go back and forth
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:22:20 UTC No. 16442574
>>16442571
not really, this system is for interstellar travel
(or one of the realizations, he and the collaborator are looking at many things at the same time and there is no single realization yet, not everything is even theoretically worked out yet)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:24:05 UTC No. 16442577
>>16442570
large structures like that would probably make more sense as cycler stations.
keep all your permanent mass for amenities on something that maintains orbit and cycles, and bring the people aboard and offboard in the same type of stripped down spacecraft that we're building now.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:42:36 UTC No. 16442596
>>16442557
I get why he's excited about this but I feel it's going to fall apart on a larger scale, solar winds are very thin (10 particles per cm3 vs. 2.5x10^19 at sea level) and so any system that relies on it is going to be scaled up to gather more of the "external energy" which will lower speed etc etc...
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:53:02 UTC No. 16442604
JANNY CLEANED THE CATTY AFTER 5 FUCKING DAYS FINALLY
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:03:16 UTC No. 16442615
>>16442604
that's coming out of his pay...
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:07:33 UTC No. 16442619
>>16442599
she's a big girl
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:08:06 UTC No. 16442620
>>16442619
heavy
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:09:26 UTC No. 16442621
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:11:37 UTC No. 16442625
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18483
what did he mean by this?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:13:08 UTC No. 16442627
>>16442538
Well you can still say whose boots/flag is on the moon
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:14:17 UTC No. 16442629
>>16442625
taking the red pill in this context means that he wants you to understand slime girls should be artificially created to serve as maids/girlfriends in zero-G environments.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:17:09 UTC No. 16442630
>>16442503
yes
it's a crime that SpaceX isn't allowed to experiment with nuclear material while other companies are
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:17:13 UTC No. 16442632
do you think ISS astronauts get snagged on all the cables and nets and shit hanging around everywhere?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:17:21 UTC No. 16442633
>>16442629
red = mars
take the mars pill
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:20:02 UTC No. 16442635
>>16442633
so we should eat mars?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:21:44 UTC No. 16442637
>>16442635
use mars soil to farm and eat it
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:24:11 UTC No. 16442640
>>16442632
Yes, its a fucking pig sty
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:25:28 UTC No. 16442642
https://x.com/GITAI_HQ/status/18472
Canada ARM status?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:27:10 UTC No. 16442643
>>16442596
The reason he likes this system is that it's based on the Plasma Magnet Sail design which uses magnetic field voodoo to spin up solar wind collecting fields kilometers across from a few meters of coils.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:27:16 UTC No. 16442644
>>16442642
2nd elbow deep in justins neghole
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:28:18 UTC No. 16442646
>>16442640
Wait Skylab had a grid? Why? I never cared about old spacestations but I see the grid on the Starship interior mockup and now also here. Whats the story?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:28:26 UTC No. 16442647
>>16442640
why are all astronauts such fucking disorganized hoarders?
my space station will be kept CLEAN.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:28:44 UTC No. 16442648
>>16442642
just send cranes in with people
this rube goldberg shit is not scalable
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:29:56 UTC No. 16442649
>>16442646
for holding you in place
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:36:07 UTC No. 16442652
>>16442640
ISS won't burn up properly on reentry due to being composed of 50% dead thinkpads after all these years
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:36:14 UTC No. 16442654
>>16442649
Gay. Just use magboots atp and have solid floors.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:36:47 UTC No. 16442656
>>16442652
those magnesium frames are gonna bright
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:42:28 UTC No. 16442661
Every time I hear more about Skylab (against my own will) I more and more begin to hate it.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:42:32 UTC No. 16442662
>>16442626
Mars = Red
Earth = Blue
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:43:55 UTC No. 16442663
>>16442662
Venus and Mercury?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:44:03 UTC No. 16442664
>>16442660
new HLS flight deck mockup?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:44:06 UTC No. 16442665
>>16442630
If you think the over regulation of space flight is bad then look into nuclear. Then combine the two and you have a recipe of engineers wasting their time waiting on bureaucrats for ever.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:44:59 UTC No. 16442666
>>16442599
cute clippy!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:46:09 UTC No. 16442667
>>16442654
But think of the mass!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:49:18 UTC No. 16442671
>>16442514
Has someone actually watched that? I almost want to, but I feel like I'd just get frustrated
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:49:47 UTC No. 16442672
>>16442599
Her mass spectrometer should be under her skirt ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:50:10 UTC No. 16442674
>>16442671
I've never seen a single one of his videos and would have never heard of him had anon not spent years spamming his garbage here.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:51:34 UTC No. 16442676
>>16442664
bunker for apollo ground crews
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:52:06 UTC No. 16442677
>>16442643
>A rotating magnetic field traps charged solar wind to create a large ring current, which induces a magnetosphere. The solar wind pushes against the magnetosphere, creating thrust in the direction of the wind.
Where's the voodoo? You don't believe in artificial magnetospheres or what?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:53:16 UTC No. 16442678
>>16442674
He was once upon a time a legendary figure in the creationist debates. This is what EDS does to a man.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:54:15 UTC No. 16442680
>>16442667
Starship fixes this. That fag that put in those gay grids on that Starship interior mockup cant think for himself and defaults to oldspace thinking patterns of mass autism over eveything else. Put some fucking sovl in it god damn it, magboots would be so fucking kino and gives privacy between levels.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:05:40 UTC No. 16442684
>>16442675
lol the air breathing engines are covered in heatshields from the inside, I wonder how that would work
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:11:33 UTC No. 16442688
>>16442626
>our memes and ideas were never meant for normalfag consumption or the spotlight
>we're the deepest darkest corner of the internet in the minds of the uninitiated
>the site has nonetheless leaked for years but at an acceptable rate
>it's now being blasted into normalfag space by one of the biggest megaphones
Elon has left the main sequence and the Q-boomer transition has begun. Need to delay it somehow until flights to Mars are established.
>>16442662
This is what I will tell my mother and coworkers.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:14:30 UTC No. 16442689
>>16442495
>Onion capsule
fixed it
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:17:47 UTC No. 16442693
>>16442619
Big through the hips? Roomy?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:18:32 UTC No. 16442694
>>16442688
>we're the deepest darkest corner of the internet in the minds of the uninitiated
/sfg/ but some parts of the site are so in normalfag consciousness at this point that they might as well be reddit 2.0 except you can say tranny.
/sfg/ is one of the only parts of this site i still use, most of my activity is on more obscure forums.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:19:29 UTC No. 16442695
>HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
>HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
>HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
>HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
>HLS WILL LAND ON THE MOON IN 2032
YOU WILL LITERALLY LOSE YOUR HAIR AND BET DIVORCE RAPED BEFORE HLS LANDS
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:19:52 UTC No. 16442696
>>16442691
Congress wanted to explore it, NASA did everything they could to not do this mission until forced to. Everything has been turned on its head somehow.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:19:54 UTC No. 16442697
>>16442642
Just about holding on at this point. Pretty much let itself go. Waiting on its latest BIOS update from indian coders
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:21:04 UTC No. 16442699
>>16442695
nobody cares
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:25:09 UTC No. 16442704
>>16442695
Source?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:25:28 UTC No. 16442706
>>16442695
>DIVORCE RAPED
But that means I would have fucked and married a girl by then. So I guess that's a small upside and I don't have much worth taking in a divorce anyway
Captcha: R420D, kek
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:25:58 UTC No. 16442707
How the fuck do space companies with aboutely ZERO business case stay solvent for years? Take Bigelow for example. How in the world did they manage to put a module on the ISS? They never had a business plan. What did they even tell investors?
At least Sierra Nevada does stuff other than Dream Chaser
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:28:58 UTC No. 16442710
>>16442694
Agreed, although I'm certain there are still many out there who still think the le hacker 4chan is a person in a Guy Fawkes mask.
>>16442707
Bigelow is very wealthy, more so then Elon was before Tesla/SpaceX
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:30:37 UTC No. 16442713
>>16442691
God watching people argue politics on twitter is painful
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:30:46 UTC No. 16442715
>>16442707
If you can brute force the money to stay afloat (Bigelow is rich, branson is rich, bezos is rich) then NASA gives you lifeline petty contracts and allows you to do stuff like throw an inflatable module on the ISS because part of NASA’s directive (from congress) is to, vaguely put, “support an LEO economy”
So there’s money to be thrown around. It’s just not enough to keep a company like Bigelow or Virgin alive.
Two exceptions: BO gets away with it because Bezos is stupid filthy rich and has thrown an unfathomable amount of $$$ at Blue Origin. SpaceX got into a good grind of launch service contracts (spooksats, com crew, com cargo) and also starlink has opened the flood gates
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:33:39 UTC No. 16442720
>>16442715
>Bigelow is rich, branson is rich, bezos is rich
Not all rich people are made equal. Bigelow and branson aren't even in the same league as bezos. Thats why virgin orbit failed, branson didn't have the money to keep it going.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:34:57 UTC No. 16442723
>>16442704
Common sense
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:35:27 UTC No. 16442724
>>16442720
Musk didn’t either at the time—but with a little luck and a game plan mapped out even as far back as like 2010 on what they wanted saved them.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:36:02 UTC No. 16442725
>>16442715
>SpaceX got into a good grind
I don't know how soemone fair minded could look at early SpaceX and not conclude that Musk is a genius. You can brute force the money if you are rich, but Musk brute forced the business case.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:44:47 UTC No. 16442736
>>16442715
I think it'll be really funny in 2035 or whatever when blue origin has a functional launch vehicle and provides lunar services to nasa and whatnot, but they're still running new sheppard joyrides
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:47:49 UTC No. 16442738
>>16442723
Skeptic?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:50:20 UTC No. 16442741
>>16442725
The idiot index was applied to everything which saved a lot.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:50:51 UTC No. 16442743
>>16442503
Solar seems to be more scalable, especially with automation. Assuming you can mass produce solar panels in mostly automated factories on Mars and have Optimuses and other robotic systems which can install and maintain the solar panels and infrastructure, it could turn into a self upscaling system for which you just need to mine some silica rich rocks.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:51:50 UTC No. 16442744
>>16442503
mars will run on hydrocarbons. mostly ethanol and methane.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:55:37 UTC No. 16442749
>>16442746
Pathetic
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:56:08 UTC No. 16442750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK1
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:57:23 UTC No. 16442751
>>16442746
This would be bad bait here
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:58:29 UTC No. 16442752
>>16442746
This is why you should be allowed to say nigger on there. If you dont you have these spaceguy5 types that infiltrate everything, even the moderation team. Space isnt some everyone hug it out area anymore. Thats why /sfg/ is better
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:58:36 UTC No. 16442753
Orel hardware
https://x.com/russianspaceweb/statu
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:59:02 UTC No. 16442754
>>16442750
>crying like a little bitch
I'm surprised Musk made it as far as he did with that little performance
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:00:02 UTC No. 16442755
>>16442753
The siphoning of funding is showing.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:00:12 UTC No. 16442756
>>16442746
it's weird how people who are extremely anti spaceflight find there way into niche spaceflight communities
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:00:12 UTC No. 16442757
>>16442753
forgor photo [math]\unicode{x1F480}[/math]
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:00:15 UTC No. 16442758
>>16442746
Whenever this subject is brought up there is always one of these retards with no sense of scale. A Starship launch is pissing in the ocean of atmospheric CO2, it would take thousands of launches before you could even measure an impact.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:01:28 UTC No. 16442760
>>16442757
Landing legs
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:02:00 UTC No. 16442762
>>16442746
>ESG hound paid for the L2 membership
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:02:28 UTC No. 16442763
>>16442750
>You create a new company with an idea that you see as very visionary
>Elon Musk says your company is bad and stupid
what will you do?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:03:17 UTC No. 16442765
>>16442756
As far as a spaceflight website goes, nasaspaceflight is probably as close to mainstream as you'll get.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:03:59 UTC No. 16442766
spacex will probably hace to do 2 hls demo missions. i very much doubt it will be flawless on landing 1
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:04:49 UTC No. 16442767
>>16442766
>they’re not going to catch SH, it will take at least ten attempts
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:04:52 UTC No. 16442769
>>16442766
catch attempt isn't working first try. booster will crash into the tank farm and set them back 2 years
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:06:56 UTC No. 16442770
>>16442757
NAWWWWWW BLUD FAILED HIS BEEF JUMPS AINT NO WAY
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:08:04 UTC No. 16442772
>>16442767
>>16442769
well they had to do 4 flights before a booster catch was sucessful.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:08:59 UTC No. 16442774
>>16442757
all this work just to keep flying Soyuz anyways kek
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:09:14 UTC No. 16442775
>>16442763
Same thing he did when Apollo astronauts doubted him.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:10:01 UTC No. 16442777
>>16442772
well thats ok. they'll have to do at least 5 flights before hls demo is successful, and since they already have I'm sure it'll be fine
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:14:22 UTC No. 16442779
>>16442746
>thread locked
>posts deleted
Looks like he drew the wrath of a more senior janny.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:14:44 UTC No. 16442781
>>16442746
CLEAN IT UP JANNY
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:15:18 UTC No. 16442782
>>16442779
If he didnt get his powers pitched then they side with him
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:15:46 UTC No. 16442783
>>16442746
ROUNDHOUSE KICK EARTHERS
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:16:08 UTC No. 16442784
>>16442779
Good god I didn't even notice jay was a mod.
Now that post makes a lot more sense.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:18:29 UTC No. 16442785
>>16442781
Is this agreeing or disagreeing with that other mod.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:19:00 UTC No. 16442787
>>16442746
I now understand why people call environmentalism a death cult.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:20:19 UTC No. 16442788
>>16442785
Disagreeing. Jay was the one showing off how small his green penis was.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:23:38 UTC No. 16442792
>>16442785
i assume disagreeing because the other mod is clearly a environmentalist, and one of their signature move is to "highlight how small one's carbon footprint is compared to the great unwashed masses."
and also the call out to forum veterans who should know better.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:29:14 UTC No. 16442796
EBOK at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:30:09 UTC No. 16442798
>>16442792
>>16442788
>>16442787
Mouf, now
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:30:27 UTC No. 16442800
>>16442635
it's a suppository
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:31:03 UTC No. 16442802
>>16442753
given their track record with post-soviet military hardware i'm assuming this is either a wooden mockup or a singular prototype that will never be fully finished.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:32:18 UTC No. 16442804
Don’t know how to phrase this eloquently but I think the gist of my question can still be conveyed:
So, assuming no nuclear, the plan right now is to do giant solar farms to run power and ISRU
Is it possible (and fuel efficient) to use methane and LOX (in lieu of gasoline, diesel, oxygen atmosphere) to power everything? Or does this break some sort of conservation of energy law where it requires more power to extract and process methalox than it would to use said methalox to run equipment and power
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:32:57 UTC No. 16442805
>>16442798
i'm giving you a pity (you)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:33:14 UTC No. 16442807
>>16442804
All your methalox comes from solar anyway so it's just fuel cells with extra steps.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:33:57 UTC No. 16442808
>>16442804
anon...
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:34:52 UTC No. 16442809
>>16442804
>Is it possible (and fuel efficient) to use methane and LOX
It would be if there was methane and lox just on mars, unfortunately theres only water and co2 which has to be turned in methalox with solar energy. Since no process is 100% efficient then you're always losing energy along the way.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:35:24 UTC No. 16442810
>>16442804
and where do you think the methane comes from?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:36:52 UTC No. 16442811
>>16442810
what does that have to do with anything
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:38:10 UTC No. 16442813
>>16442804
Kike
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:41:22 UTC No. 16442814
>>16442809
Earth doesn’t have straight gasoline sitting in the ground, it has to be processed (using energy) before it can be turned into a usable form.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:41:36 UTC No. 16442815
next launch when
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:41:42 UTC No. 16442816
>>16442804
oh no...
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:42:31 UTC No. 16442818
>>16442804
it's not a good way to make energy but it's a good store of energy
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:43:03 UTC No. 16442819
>>16442814
Yes, but you're not burning gasoline to power a process that turns water and carbon dioxide back into gasoline, dingus
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:43:57 UTC No. 16442820
>>16442814
Thats because the stuff you get out of the ground isn't usual for energy. Whereas solar power is, so you're just inefficiently turning usable power into more usable power.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:47:37 UTC No. 16442823
>>16442809
Is it more efficient to just use your solar energy as power, directly
versus something like using methalox or fuel cells to power ISRU to get more methane and lox
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:48:35 UTC No. 16442825
>>16442823
>Is it more efficient to just use your solar energy as power, directly
Yes
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:50:33 UTC No. 16442828
>>16442746
what an absolute fucking faggot
>senior member
>global moderator
>8.7k posts
lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:50:51 UTC No. 16442829
>>16442825
10-4, thanks. Sorry if the original question was retarded
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:51:52 UTC No. 16442831
>>16442829
Don't worry about it, learning is the important part.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:52:26 UTC No. 16442832
>>16442815
Starlink Group 6-61 is launching in just under six hours. After that there's an LM-6 launching from Taiyuan tomorrow with an undisclosed payload
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:53:30 UTC No. 16442835
>>16442832
ahh, my two favorite types of space launch: starlink falcon and unknown payload long march
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:53:52 UTC No. 16442836
>>16442835
Many such cases!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:57:46 UTC No. 16442839
>>16442811
it has everything to do with it
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:58:05 UTC No. 16442840
>>16442835
>starlink falcon
If it means less likely loss of video downlink for future launches, cheaper starlink prices and FCC commissioners malding I'm excited.
>unknown payload long march
Payload is explosive upper stage.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:00:36 UTC No. 16442843
>>16442839
My interest in the topic has already waned
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:03:27 UTC No. 16442844
>>16442804
Do you mean on Mars? Methane on earth is a byproduct of most oil wells in varying fractions. Much of the methane produced at wells isn't even used due to lack of infrastructure at the well heads and is just flared.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:07:29 UTC No. 16442849
>>16442814
you get much more energy out of it in the end than you put in, this is not the case with the sabatier reaction
with oil drilling and processing, you get a hydrocarbon soup and when you refine it, you generally filter out a range of hydrocarbons, turning longer chained ones into shorter chained ones mostly and when you combust that with free oxygen in the atmosphere (which you don't need to extract, its just there) you get out a lot of energy and basically turn those very long hydrocarbons + free oxygen into carbon dioxide and water
with the sabatier process on mars you would be taking very short "chained" molecules in the form of water and carbon dioxide and turning them into the shortest chain hydrocarbon there is, methane (1 carbon, 4 hydrogen)
due to the preservation of energy, you are never going to get more energy out of this process than you put into it, so you have to get extra energy from somewhere, for example solar panels or a nuclear power plant
burning oil is an exothermic reaction, creating methane is an endothermic reaction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJX
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:10:35 UTC No. 16442850
>>16442654
>free floating strong magnets around a bunch of exposed computer equipment
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:10:52 UTC No. 16442851
>>16442849
i can't believe you had to spoonfeed him like that.
anyone who can't intuitively see why that's a bad idea, i'm honestly not sure how he even figured out how to use the internet if that's a serious proposition to him.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:11:40 UTC No. 16442852
>>16442851
maybe he slept through chemistry
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:12:45 UTC No. 16442853
>>16442851
nta but I assumed he might be ESL and his post was at the limits of what he could articulate
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:13:29 UTC No. 16442854
>>16442849
thanks
>>16442851
have a good day
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:13:33 UTC No. 16442855
>>16442830
anyone know who this is?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:15:30 UTC No. 16442859
>>16442851
Stop discouraging them.
If people stop asking dumb questions then how else am I gonna sperg out about all this stuff I know?
Everyone gets mad at me if I do it for no reason.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:16:09 UTC No. 16442860
>>16442840
This one shouldn't explode. Despite having the same number the LM-6 and 6A hardly have any parts in common and have completely different upper stages.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:16:20 UTC No. 16442861
>>16442858
Lmao, looney tunes beaners.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:17:56 UTC No. 16442863
>>16442858
>can build rockets
>doesn't understand rip currents
many such cases sadly
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:18:23 UTC No. 16442864
>>16442858
heaven gained an angle today.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:18:35 UTC No. 16442865
>>16442858
Texas gets a ton of rip currents that can be super deadly by dragging you out, freaking you out, and exhausting you into a drowning
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:19:38 UTC No. 16442866
>>16442746
Absolutely soul crushing to know that there are multitudes out there who think like this and spend their whole lives actively working to oppose progress
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:20:21 UTC No. 16442867
https://x.com/KevinKileyCA/status/1
CA Congressman talking about the SpaceX-Coastal Commission lawfare
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:21:05 UTC No. 16442868
>>16442858
this is proof positive that spacex needs to be shut down.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:21:34 UTC No. 16442869
>>16442859
yeah i feel you anon, sometimes i also try to find posts to unload spergtism onto.
but really, come on.
>uhhh what if we took fuel with us and we turned it into fuel durrrrr
i really struggle to not roll my eyes and make fun of that level of speshul
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:22:26 UTC No. 16442871
>>16442869
have a good day!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:23:10 UTC No. 16442874
>>16442858
>humans can build machines that seed other worlds with life
>some big bathtub can just take their life instantly with no recourse.
the flesh is weak.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:24:18 UTC No. 16442877
>>16442871
you too
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:24:28 UTC No. 16442878
Launch new glenn already you hack bald twat
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:24:54 UTC No. 16442879
>>16442858
Do not underestimate the ocean
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:26:08 UTC No. 16442880
>>16442874
Earth's oceans are insanely hostile compared to most of the solar system.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:26:08 UTC No. 16442881
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:27:10 UTC No. 16442882
>>16442881
makeup on a pig.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:32:12 UTC No. 16442884
>>16442880
kinetically speaking? yeah they kind of are, i guess gas giant winds might be able to rip you apart but for the most part everything else not fit for human habitation just makes you choke or overheat or freeze.
only on earth is there a medium covering 2/3 of the surface that will actively try to wring your neck, pull you in or smash you against a rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuU
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:33:05 UTC No. 16442885
>>16442884
Also it's an ionic soup that conducts lightning strikes and tries to eat metals.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:33:52 UTC No. 16442886
>>16442881
slampig redpill era?
maybe she will awaken when some of her close friends and co-workers suddenly go apeshit at her for daring to question the political motivations of these people.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:35:09 UTC No. 16442889
>>16442885
oh yeah that too, leave an aluminium craft on the moon for 200 years and most that will have happened is bleached paint.
leave it in salty water for a few years and it's damaged beyond repair
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:35:42 UTC No. 16442890
what you need to understand about California is that it's such a monoparty state that it is necessary for politicians there to draw lines within party policy to distinguish themselves from one another.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:35:42 UTC No. 16442891
>>16442881
>>16442882
take kermit's wife's name out your damn mouth
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:36:01 UTC No. 16442892
>>16442874
>>16442880
People panic and forget they can float. The tides here in TX are rather mild but certain areas can develop strong currents. The water clarity is also often poor which adds to the panic response in my opinion.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:37:31 UTC No. 16442894
>>16442891
>>16442881
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
how did i never notice this?
slampig is right!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:38:45 UTC No. 16442895
>>16442892
so what do you do when a ripcurrent drags you away from shore? not fight it, be stuck away from land and die of thirst?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:40:04 UTC No. 16442897
>>16442894
i like how the aircraft telemetry gets absorbed into his suit
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:40:55 UTC No. 16442898
>>16442895
swim parallel to the shore, accept that you’re gonna be spit out way the fuck down the beach, but that it’s better than fighting in vain to try and swim perpendicular back to shore
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:42:40 UTC No. 16442900
>>16442895
Swimming parallel to shore usually works, most currents only last a few hundred yards at most, often less. I got scuba certified and one of the things they made us do is float/tread water for several minutes and then swim 200 yards.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:48:44 UTC No. 16442904
>>16442898
>>16442900
yep, most of all don't panic.
i've been stuck on the opposite end of a massive river stuck between two moving river barges before because my friends dared me to swim across, never lost my breath and never priotized swimming over staying above water, but i think there's a lot of continental people that never grew up near large sources of water and were never taken to swimming lessons.
those people have a big chance of just psyching themselves our, panicking and drowning because of it.
possible that spacex employee was originally from some bumfuck midwestern town and never had much contact with water.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:49:20 UTC No. 16442905
>>16442895
swim really hard directly to shore
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:51:32 UTC No. 16442906
>>16442904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp1
at least he was white and had a chance, here's what brown people do when they encounter water.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:51:32 UTC No. 16442907
>>16442870
Hey good for them. Vulcan will never be Falcon 9, or Starship, or even New Glenn, but at least it gets contracts I guess.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:53:53 UTC No. 16442908
>>16442906
three retards go into a pond, don't know how to swim and drown?
I don't want to watch more than a few seconds
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:55:02 UTC No. 16442910
>>16442909
source?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:55:03 UTC No. 16442911
>>16442906
it honestly impressed me how quickly they managed to drown themselves.
did they do the crab bucket thing and keep pulling eachother down or something?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:55:06 UTC No. 16442912
>>16442892
b-but I don't float, anon.
water is scary
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:55:38 UTC No. 16442913
>>16442858
How many people have to die from the industrial waste water dumped on to the beach, before the government does something?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:57:36 UTC No. 16442915
>>16442881
Kek she's dressed rather modestly for that interview
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:57:56 UTC No. 16442916
>>16442910
china
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:58:01 UTC No. 16442917
>>16442908
Have you guys seen the video of that caver who freaks out and almost drowns everyone else? He couldn’t find air for a split second and then his body just went into freak out mode grabbing everyone, trying to pull them under.
As we get more and more and more people in EVA suits when life inevitably explodes on the Moon and Mars, we risk more people freaking out during an EVA. I don’t think the average joe should be allotted a space suit. Granted it’s not as deadly as communal swimming. But still. Someone freaking out during an EVA is a problem!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:58:36 UTC No. 16442918
damn bro water is scary.
sometimes i forget how scary water is
only more impressive that the white race managed to conquer it in a way nobody else did.
we will do the same with the deadliness of space.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:59:26 UTC No. 16442921
>>16442916
but how did the chinese figure out the moon can kill them?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:00:06 UTC No. 16442922
>>16442917
you can even have the same problems with oxygen mixes getting all fucked up and people becoming delirious and drunk.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:00:16 UTC No. 16442923
/sfg/ is alive (we die at night)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:01:30 UTC No. 16442924
>>16442923
it's 9pm though?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:02:03 UTC No. 16442925
>>16442924
it's noon you retard
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:02:38 UTC No. 16442926
>>16442925
Its 3pm you nigger
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:02:38 UTC No. 16442927
>>16442918
this is why space will be a great filter for lesser people's.
it's basically the ocean on steroids.
it's an environment inhospitable to humans without a specially built vessel, tools, and the ability to plan long term, navigate great distances, keep stock of supplies, and react quickly to dangerous developing circumstances.
DEI might try to enter space, but space will spit it out like a piece of chewed gum.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:02:51 UTC No. 16442928
>>16442924
1400 Starbase time
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:03:39 UTC No. 16442929
>>16442928
>>16442925
>>16442926
>>16442924
>>16442923
what time is it on mars?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:03:55 UTC No. 16442931
>>16442927
Thats because felonious fusk is a racist chud and has a monopoly over the industry
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:04:55 UTC No. 16442933
>>16442929
time to land humans there, heyo
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:05:00 UTC No. 16442935
>>16442904
Yeah I made the ill advised decision to swim across the cut at Caye Caulker which divides the island. The outward leg was fine but needed to hurry back to catch the boat. There was a bit of a current that we didn't realize existed which made it more difficult and I had been drinking quite a bit which didn't help things. During the swim back I got tired to the point I couldn't swim anymore. Rather than flail around like a retard and cause a scene I just rolled on my back and floated for a bit until I regained enough energy to swim the final 50 yards.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:05:49 UTC No. 16442937
>>16442925
1:05 on my machine
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:05:50 UTC No. 16442938
>>16442927
>DEI might try to enter space,
They won't use a space suit, but they will be controlling the air mixtures on your suit and probably the maintenance as well.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:07:19 UTC No. 16442939
>>16442917
there is going to have to be some basic training for EVA suits however simple they get like with basic scuba stuff
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:07:59 UTC No. 16442940
>>16442910
>In China, despite warning signs erected along the banks of the Qiantang River, a number of fatalities occur each year by people who take too much risk with the bore
Webm from a thread about chinese people drowning on futaba.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:08:16 UTC No. 16442941
>>16442937
Am or pm? Subhuman status tbd by this
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:09:03 UTC No. 16442943
>>16442832
imagine naming your rocket after that time when a bunch of commies carried that fat lazy fuck Mao around for a thousands of miles like he was already emperor.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:09:10 UTC No. 16442944
>>16442927
>Artemis XIII, 2029
>sudden starship tank explosion after TLI
>AYO, HOUSTON HOL UP
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:15:01 UTC No. 16442946
>>16442935
same thing, made it to the other side of the river just fine but then i had to somehow slip between traffic to get back when i'd already spent most of my energy getting there.
i thought i'd found a gap but then another barge rounded the corner to my left and i was forced to start swimming slightly more into the current to avoid that one, which also brought me closer to the path of the barge coming from the other side.
in the end i cleared the 2nd barge with about 7 meters to spare, after that i just floated for a bit before swimming the final stretch.
never understimate how much exercise swimming is, especially if you're a couch potato like me.
what may seem like a 2 minute walk on land is an impossible journey for most people through even calm waters.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:16:50 UTC No. 16442948
/sfg/ - Swimming Fatigue General
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:17:14 UTC No. 16442949
/SFG/
Swimming Fuckups General
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:17:48 UTC No. 16442950
>>16442949
I failed my swim test twice
t. navy
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:19:29 UTC No. 16442955
>>16442950
how'd you fail them?
t. curious anon
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:19:40 UTC No. 16442957
>>16442950
no big deal, i'm told most in air force cant fly
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:19:54 UTC No. 16442958
>>16442917
Another area where scuba training would help. Yet even with training every instructor has a story about the one retard who panicked and either died or got brain damage after panicking the moment something off nominal occurred. This is usually in the beginner classes but sometimes in the more advanced stuff.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:20:58 UTC No. 16442960
>>16442957
they can, just not for very long.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:22:19 UTC No. 16442961
>>16442917
no but i did recently see this video of a half-negress panicking and nearly drowning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFC
EBOK at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:23:45 UTC No. 16442963
>>16442962
So fucking gey general
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:24:56 UTC No. 16442966
>>16442963
>namefag calling others gay
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:25:15 UTC No. 16442967
>>16442955
jump in a pool wearing overalls, 2 mins of treading water (not touching the sides or botttom) followed by an immediate swim to one end of the pool then back, and hauling yourself over a ledge. First one I couldn't manage treading water, touched the bottom, insta fail. second I managed the 2 mins, went to start swimming, didn't go anywhere. Just didn't move at all, shitty baggy overalls idk. Managed it the third time, brute forced the swim and yeeted myself out at the end with seconds to spare, I swear that ledge was like over fucking half a meter above the end of the pool
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:28:09 UTC No. 16442970
>>16442967
>jump in a pool wearing overalls
Were you allowed to remove them like common sense would indicate?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:30:05 UTC No. 16442973
>>16442967
i mean i consider myself pretty unathletic but i've lived right next to a river my whole life and i've swam pretty decent distances in full clothing.
was there a time limit for the swimming part, or were you wearing heavy combat boots, because then i might understand, otherwise sorry to say anon but that doesn't seem very difficult from the way you're describing it.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:30:26 UTC No. 16442975
>>16442970
no, you have to put them on. It's to simulate if you were on a ship that started to flood, since engies wear them 99% of the time anyway
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:30:40 UTC No. 16442976
>>16442970
YOURE FUCKING RETARDED AND DONT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:31:27 UTC No. 16442977
>>16442973
yeah the swim was timed, 3 mins, more than enough for everyone else but I cannot swim for shit and hadn't been in a pool for 15 years lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:32:09 UTC No. 16442978
>>16442970
>just take the time to remove your clothes while your ship is sinking
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:33:03 UTC No. 16442979
>>16442977
>t. fat slob coping
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:33:10 UTC No. 16442980
>>16442977
naruhodo
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:33:32 UTC No. 16442981
Mars will require delta-v and feature delta-p.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEt
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:35:01 UTC No. 16442984
>>16442979
skinny lanklet, fatties float ofc
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:35:25 UTC No. 16442985
>>16442978
>>16442976
>>16442970
In the water you fucktards. Don't tell me it's impossible either because scuba involves similar training to deal with becomming ensnared.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:37:42 UTC No. 16442987
Haven't paid attention since last hop. Hows the loicensing going now, do they need a new one? They should have another stack ready to go soon, right? Are they allowed to fly it? Two weeks?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:38:07 UTC No. 16442988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIP
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:38:09 UTC No. 16442989
>>16442985
if we met i would wipe that gay smirk off your face.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:38:57 UTC No. 16442991
>>16442987
no new info from spacex regarding the next step
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:39:09 UTC No. 16442992
>>16442987
as far as i know they're good to go for IFT-6 license wise
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:39:10 UTC No. 16442993
>>16442987
tldr 4 months ironically. 2 weeks unironically.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:39:46 UTC No. 16442994
>>16442987
they don't need a new license if they want to launch the same flight profile, but there's a good chance they'll want to alter it and require new approval
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:40:07 UTC No. 16442995
>>16442985
Starship flew over the UK without a TV loicence and is now grounded until 2026
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:41:08 UTC No. 16442996
>>16442995
meant for >>16442987
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:42:18 UTC No. 16442997
>>16442988
fuck that
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:44:50 UTC No. 16443000
>>16442998
Does anyone care? Its Bulagaria A, and B Artemis will be cancelled soon with a Dump presidency.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:45:01 UTC No. 16443001
>>16442998
Akhtually they joined it a year ago
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:46:18 UTC No. 16443003
>>16442991
>>16442992
>>16442994
>>16442995
thx, appreciated. hope we'll see 2 or 3 more before next year
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:46:38 UTC No. 16443004
>>16442661
skylab was fucking based and you're a faggot
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:47:11 UTC No. 16443005
>>16443000
>Artemis will be cancelled soon with a Dump presidency
why would trump cancel his own space initiative
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:47:13 UTC No. 16443006
>>16443000
why does drumpft want to cancel the program which was started under his presidency and which is nearing success?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:49:10 UTC No. 16443008
>>16442989
I don't hang out with faggots
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 19:51:41 UTC No. 16443012
>>16443000
He started Artemis and the Accords you fucking retard. It's actually super funny that he made it so appealing to Congress that Biden couldn't kill it.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:07:56 UTC No. 16443022
>>16442991
wasn't there something about going for a ship catch next time? thought i saw a spacex tweet posted here talking about next plans.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:10:05 UTC No. 16443024
>>16443022
No, ship catch is officialy next year, IFT 6 is planned for this year (tentatively 2nd half of november)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:11:11 UTC No. 16443025
>>16443024
well alrighty then. i'll be happy with whatever they decide to do so long as the booster catch works out
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:16:37 UTC No. 16443031
>>16443025
>>16443024
>>16443022
Source? Also how the fuck would they do a ship catch if they havent gone orbital yet, it literally cant come back like the booster can unless it goes fully orbital
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:19:21 UTC No. 16443032
>>16443031
yeah, its got to orbit of course, but that doesn't seem like much of an issue. are their any issues with that? just a little extra boost.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:21:42 UTC No. 16443033
>>16443031
ignore him, hes bullshitting.
relight isnt on the cards for ift6 either for some reason so we will have to wait for ift7 at the earliest. maybe they want to fully solve burnthrough first.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:23:50 UTC No. 16443036
>>16443033
Still no source, fag. Tell mec what internal meetings youre hearing no relight on IFT-6 from huh
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:26:11 UTC No. 16443039
>>16443036
nta, but their outstanding license from flight 5 is valid for flight 6
it's entirely plausible that they go and wring the FAA's nuts for a modification again but until they do flight 6 can only utilize the previous flight plan
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:27:34 UTC No. 16443040
>>16443031
>ship catch next year
musk's tweet https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18461
>IFT 6 in ~a month
reddit
>IFT 6 this year
Berger
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:29:19 UTC No. 16443041
>>16443039
Wrong, the FAA's statements was that SpaceX do plan modification for IFT 6 but that it doesn't need additional approval.
Could perfectly be a IFT-3-like relight.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:34:13 UTC No. 16443042
>>16443022
>>16443024
>>16443025
>>16443031
there's talks of working with australia to recover a starship 2nd stage.
maybe on IFT-6 they'll install some of those little stubby crush core legs they used for the suborbital test campaign and land it off australian shores on a drone ship.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:35:23 UTC No. 16443045
>>16443042
they should land it somehwere in the australian desert. Would be an awesome test for landing on unprepared surfaces. hopefully they vaporize some abbo
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:36:30 UTC No. 16443046
>>16443045
land it on ulululu or whatever the fuck that big rock is called
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:37:02 UTC No. 16443047
>>16443041
They stated that the modifications for flight 6 are "within the scope of what was previously analyzed" and that any further modification would need another review.
Even if you choose to interpret that statement as if they're allowed to refly any of the previous missions, that still doesn't allow for orbit.
The IFT-3 (attempted) relight was prograde. It never went into orbit, the relight wasn't going to put it into orbit, and it was never de-orbiting by lighting the engine either way (that didn't light and couldn't be lit because the reaction control failed anyway)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:39:37 UTC No. 16443051
>>16443047
fuck off ESGclown!
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:39:56 UTC No. 16443052
>>16443040
Gb2r, and saying Berger isnt a source either unless u provide link u fat plebbitor
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:41:45 UTC No. 16443053
>>16443052
>Berger isnt a source
>He doesn't know
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:42:58 UTC No. 16443055
>>16443053
Hello faggot. Wheres the article/twitter link from Berger. If u dont provide in next post ur proven a fraud.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:43:52 UTC No. 16443056
>>16443051
>everyone who disagrees with me is a twitter troon
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:46:48 UTC No. 16443058
>>16443055
I don't need to post proof. I believe that it is real.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:51:59 UTC No. 16443063
>>16443034
this one's gonna have 4 solid boosters, so that's kinda neat
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:53:45 UTC No. 16443064
>>16443063
Payload needs to be extra shaken, not stirred?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:55:08 UTC No. 16443066
>>16443063
Especially since the GEM-64XL's currently have a 25% failure rate.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:55:24 UTC No. 16443067
>von Braun married his 18 years old cousin when he was 35
based...so based...
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:55:29 UTC No. 16443068
>>16443045
no dude the abbos that it misses will try to snort the methane.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:56:08 UTC No. 16443069
If I’m a control engineer at Sierra Space I would just kms right now. Tory is currently doing laps with what is arguably a new oldspace rocket; meanwhile dreamchaser isn’t ready for flight lmfao
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:56:08 UTC No. 16443070
>>16443042
sounds fun
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:56:30 UTC No. 16443071
>>16443063
hope they don't give this payload shaken baby syndrome.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:56:43 UTC No. 16443072
>>16443066
that's why they need the extras, for redundancy.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:56:53 UTC No. 16443073
>>16442503
That's a normal sized solar farm
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:57:08 UTC No. 16443074
>>16443069
Prove it, gayboy
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:57:30 UTC No. 16443075
>>16443069
>doing laps
this was their second certification flight and it failed.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:58:40 UTC No. 16443076
>>16443071
Are you speaking from your own experience?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:58:47 UTC No. 16443077
>>16443067
Cut from a different cloth
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:01:44 UTC No. 16443078
>>16443075
I didn’t expect it to be ready for its first flight and it has now flown twice. I’m not calling Vulcan-Centaur revolutionary (I called it oldspace kek) but it is, at the very least, flying and being take seriously.
Makes you wonder if those leaks about Sierra being an incompetent retarded org are true
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:05:54 UTC No. 16443079
>>16442758
More like millions of launches.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:06:00 UTC No. 16443080
>>16443076
no i'm speaking from the experience of vulcan's first payload where vulcan gave it shaken baby syndrome and destroyed the payload.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:08:00 UTC No. 16443083
>>16443079
so yuo'er saying starship launches will be a problem for global CO2 counts
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:08:57 UTC No. 16443086
>>16442917
this is why psych profiling is going to be super important for vetting candidates, and why we shouldn't be selling tickets to richfags
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:10:40 UTC No. 16443087
>>16442967
wow that's embarassing anon
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:11:41 UTC No. 16443089
https://www.satellitetoday.com/conn
>Intelsat confirmed on Monday the Intelsat-33e satellite is a “total loss” after a recent anomaly. Intelsat first reported a service outage on the satellite on Oct. 19. U.S. Space Forces-Space (S4S) on Saturday confirmed the satellite broke up in orbit. S4S is currently tracking 20 pieces of debris while conducting ongoing analysis and reported no immediate threats. Intelsat said on Monday the operator is coordinating with satellite manufacturer Boeing and government agencies to analyze data and observations. The operator has started a failure review board to find the cause of the anomaly.
>Intelsat-33e was built by Boeing based on the 702MP satellite bus and entered service in 2017 at 60 degrees East orbital position. It has a mixed C-band, Ku-band and Ka-band payload. The satellite is part of the Intelsat Epic high throughput satellite (HTS) series, which consists of IS-29e, IS-33e, and IS-32e all based on the same Boeing platform. This is the second in-orbit failure for the Epic fleet — IS-29e failed in 2019 after the propulsion system sprung a leak and the satellite could not be recovered.
Boeing is reaching Soviet levels of hardware quality across all departments
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:12:19 UTC No. 16443090
>>16442884
Could we remove the oceans?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:13:13 UTC No. 16443092
>>16443080
Sounds like youre coping with being a standars deviation below mean IQ
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:13:15 UTC No. 16443093
>>16443000
Why would they cancel Bulgaria?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:14:01 UTC No. 16443096
I don’t want to run a strawpoll or anything but I generally take it (in my head at least) that a majority of /sfg/ considers:
>Saturn V the coolest rocket ever
>Falcon 9 / Heavy the coolest “active” rocket
Has SS now dethroned Saturn V? I keep telling myself I’m waiting until it’s officially “active” before definitively changing my mind. But
a) it’s flying more than ‘active’ rockets like SLS and Vulcan, etc.
b) That tower catch pretty much cemented it as an active rocket to me holy shit
It may not be putting payloads into LEO, but it fucking works for all intents and purposes. I think it has overtaken my beloved Saturn V now
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:14:33 UTC No. 16443098
>>16443086
Oh fuck off protocol-fag. No one is going to be following your three-hour decontamination protocol every time they take a walk.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:15:10 UTC No. 16443100
>>16443042
they should land it in the outback
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:15:23 UTC No. 16443101
>>16443090
uhh, based? ship them to mars
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:16:12 UTC No. 16443103
>>16443096
>Saturn V the coolest rocket ever
I've never thought this. It's just another expendable meme rocket, admittedly large.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:16:30 UTC No. 16443104
>>16443089
>two satellites made by boing in recent years
>they both blew up in orbit
no refunds
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:16:31 UTC No. 16443105
>>16443096
falcon 9 is a very respectable rocket but IDK if it's "cool" fh is cooler, that's for sure
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:17:44 UTC No. 16443107
>>16443103
It’s so cool how can you not be obsessed with it. The more I learn about Saturn V the more I am blown away. Helps to see it in person, as well.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:17:47 UTC No. 16443108
>>16443096
I love the Saturn V more than boomers love their corvettes, it will forever be GOAT in the context of its era, Starship is just where always should have been by now
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:17:55 UTC No. 16443109
>>16443103
Based. Modern rockets are 1000x cooler and cheaper than that fucker, and anons only like it because the Shuttle era sucked so badly
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:20:23 UTC No. 16443112
>>16443096
Saturn V is a bit of a normy pick for best old rocket. We're all rocket autists here. There's always going to be that one guy who pops up to mention how the Delta II was a spaceflight workhorse for like thirty years.
Starship is cool but its still getting started. Give it some time to get some actual operational history before we talk about it dethroning anything
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:23:08 UTC No. 16443115
>>16443096
I like Soyuz
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:23:28 UTC No. 16443116
>>16443115
Gey russoid
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:24:15 UTC No. 16443119
>>16443116
Wrong, try again :)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:24:23 UTC No. 16443120
>>16443115
soviets? more like sovliets
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:24:51 UTC No. 16443122
>For example, the hangar’s concrete foundation needed steel rebar for strength. Mosdell said Musk would not approve the purchase order due to cost. The launch site team found cheaper materials from China, but Musk still refused it, questioning the need for rebar at all. “Any civil or structural engineer knows that’s ridiculous, so we just broke the purchase orders down into smaller amounts, below his approval level, and moved on,” Mosdell said.
autism
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:26:07 UTC No. 16443125
>>16443115
That's not a rocket
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:26:50 UTC No. 16443126
>>16443115
It has my respect for being so old and being such a workhorse, and deserves its own place at the table, but it’s not the best. It’s a basic ICBM, arguably second generation only after the V2s that the Russoids originally got post-WWII. Upgraded heavily for the modern day but still a basic stick of a rocket that BARELY gets any meaningful payload to space. It’s one degree of separation removed from tiny sounding rockets and New Shepard and Electron.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:28:08 UTC No. 16443128
>>16443126
sounding rockets are cool tho
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:29:01 UTC No. 16443129
>>16443096
digital launch footage will simply never compare to film kino
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:29:19 UTC No. 16443130
>16443122
>"Elon pls"
>no"
>"o-ok sir"
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:30:20 UTC No. 16443131
>>16443122
Romans didn't need rebar
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:30:27 UTC No. 16443132
>>16443099
not a single time ever have I done so
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:30:51 UTC No. 16443134
>>16443122
>so we just broke the purchase orders down into smaller amounts, below his approval level, and moved on
It's that easy in budgetry.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:32:42 UTC No. 16443135
>>16443131
Romans probably didn’t have giant concrete slabs that needed to support mega cranes and dry weight rocket tanks and vehicles lol
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:34:09 UTC No. 16443136
>>16443135
>he doesn't know
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:36:34 UTC No. 16443138
>>16443122
like what the german did to keep stg44 development going
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:36:50 UTC No. 16443139
>>16443096
satV was a good looking rocket and powered guys to moon. it'll always be a beauty. SS wont ever look as good but when it starts doing what its capable of it'll be amazing.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:36:57 UTC No. 16443140
>>16443135
Ever heard of roman concrete novus fagius?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:37:15 UTC No. 16443141
>>16442949
>>16442948
kek, hivemind
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:38:48 UTC No. 16443143
>>16443141
Join us, or be assimilated.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:39:42 UTC No. 16443144
https://youtu.be/KTtdF4gmxpk
This might be one of Eager's top vids yet
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:40:26 UTC No. 16443145
Quick someone post a Kyplanet video to make Eagershill seethe
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:41:05 UTC No. 16443146
>>16443143
I'd rather bee myself
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:41:06 UTC No. 16443147
>>16443128
for me, it was Bumper-WAC
>>16443129
theres some GREAT satV launch footage around. love eeet
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:42:10 UTC No. 16443149
The Colonization of the Moon - Part One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKo
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:42:48 UTC No. 16443151
>>16443146
we're going to need comedians on mars
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:48:11 UTC No. 16443154
>>16443128
Your mom sounded my cock last night
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:48:21 UTC No. 16443156
>>16443144
Every day my hate towards Boeing grows larger
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:48:23 UTC No. 16443157
>>16443145
>>16443149
samefag, don't bother posting edited (You)s later
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:48:42 UTC No. 16443159
>>16443096
If you exclude Starship, I'll have to give N1 the coolest rocket. There's a some nice aesthetics going with N1 that wont be matched until Starship.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:50:04 UTC No. 16443161
>>16443149
>2033: a united EU moon colony, Orion Base, is established
>2036: Russia finally gets its own moon base started
There's more, but as far as fanfiction goes this one's pretty stupid
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:50:31 UTC No. 16443162
>>16443004
Skylab was the mostest basedest thing to ever orbit Urf.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:51:00 UTC No. 16443163
>>16443128
many sounding rockets have an apogee of +1,000km, vastly surpassing blue urine's carnival ride lmao.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:51:07 UTC No. 16443164
>>16443157
Mobile, cant be edited. Sorry fag, cant deny this.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:52:08 UTC No. 16443167
>>16443154
Ew.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:52:15 UTC No. 16443168
>Musk kept the pressure on, constantly telling the teams they needed to complete the first stage within two weeks.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:52:24 UTC No. 16443169
>>16443149
>>16443161
Give these EU and Russian fanfiction, I would guess this video is atleast a decade+ old. It seems so out of touch with reality right now. Both EU and Russia are fading into irrelevance at warp speed.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:52:47 UTC No. 16443171
>>16443157
WRONG dumbass I'm neither of those anons
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:53:03 UTC No. 16443172
>>16443164
i wish i could piss in your mouth and shit down your throat, liar.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:53:30 UTC No. 16443174
>>16442998
Russia fucked up massively with Ukraine and they have also stated that they don't want to be a part of any accords with the US moving forward post ISS sunset. So the Artemis Accords is to basically establish the equivalent of NATO but for space, wherein you have all these signatories contributing, but unlike NATO, US has ultimate say on what goes and doesn't go--because SLS, Starship, and BlueMoon are all US architectures and everyone else has jack shit. It's a new trade, science, and world order in essence, to create conditions by which Russia is isolated, China is doing its own thing, and its a competition of east vs west again at geopolitical scale. It also adjoins the presitge and research agreements to the hip of all these countries with the US in a way that says "you can leave at any time, you can leave and potentially go to China too--but we'll be always decades ahead of you, so its in your best interest to stay with us and not start dumb shit like Russia did, and we'll be good and merry."
Time will tell how this shakes out, if it ends up being a useful accord or if it becomes SLS 3.0 where insane amounts of money is spent with no real gain.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:53:57 UTC No. 16443175
>>16443161
>chances of a European moon base before 2100: 0%
>chances of a Russian moon base before 2100: 0%
If SpaceX didn't exist, I'd also say an American base is at 1-5%.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:53:57 UTC No. 16443176
>>16443172
Cope, gfys
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:55:01 UTC No. 16443179
The Colonization of the Moon - Part Two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC7
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:55:15 UTC No. 16443180
>>16443168
>What did you get done this week?
Musk still asking the question every single day.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:56:25 UTC No. 16443181
Why is this posting a literal who tranny video seething about Musk?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:57:25 UTC No. 16443182
>>16443122
His obsession with cutting costs and vertical integration is to be admired, but simultaneously, his extremism in the matter can also back fire.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:59:53 UTC No. 16443185
>>16443169
You could technically run a flags-and-footprint lunar program using the Angara 5. You'd need more URM production than Khrunichev has been able to show off yet and a lot more budget than anyone in Moscow wants to provide, but it is at least possible. It also even more slightly technically possible to run the same kind of program with the Ariane 6, but you'd need to devote all of ArianeGroup's yearly production to pull it off maybe one landing.
The only rockets anyone is considering building right now that are capable of building and maintaining a lunar base are Starship and Long March 9.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:59:57 UTC No. 16443186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGa
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:00:09 UTC No. 16443187
>>16443182
Yeah. Especially with something as ubiquitous as concrete, you just need to accept you aren't innovating or finding some miraculous cost savings
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:00:43 UTC No. 16443188
>>16443182
Meh, no one is 100% perfect, otherwise he wouldn't be human.
>his extremism in the matter can also back fire.
In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, he gets things done at the end of the day.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:02:24 UTC No. 16443189
>>16443187
If you dont question standard practice you wont get anywhere in life, all you're gonna do is coast on someone's path. To change things in life, you need to pave your own road in your image.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:02:27 UTC No. 16443190
>>16443187
but what if there is though?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:04:02 UTC No. 16443191
>He telephoned Thompson, then driving the Ford Flex down yet another Louisiana byway. After berating Thompson, Musk ordered him to summarily fire Carlson. The physicist was sitting next to Thomspon, oblivious to the conversation. Thompson replied that he was not Carlson’s supervisor and did not have the responsibility. Musk said that if Thompson did not fire Carlson, he would fire Thompson first, and Carlson second. The call ended. Thompson turned to Carlson and nonchalantly said everything was fine. They drove on down the road. Musk never raised the issue again.
What did he mean by this?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:06:42 UTC No. 16443193
>>16443185
nta, but I think there's no much point in saying that certain countries could "technically" do certain stuff. We could've technically been on Mars by 1980, yet here were are. As long as there's no interest or ambition, it's not gonna happen, period. Europe or Russia don't care about space, they are happy with keeping their own pork barrels. Once their "rivals" get to the moon, they will at most say "oh, what a shame" and move on.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:06:46 UTC No. 16443194
>>16443191
>Mayo monkeys be like:
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:06:49 UTC No. 16443195
>>16443191
4D chess
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:08:11 UTC No. 16443199
>>16442858
Wow. I heard "Boca Chica" mentioned on the radio news today, but I didn't catch that it was a Spacer that drowned.
>>16442913
It's all that damned Dihydrogen Monoxide that they dump into the water.
>>16442863
PSA: if you get into a rip current, swim parallel to the shore until you get out of it.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:08:36 UTC No. 16443200
>>16443191
https://www.fastcompany.com/9111691
Read up.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:08:41 UTC No. 16443201
>>16443189
>>16443190
I get it, but this isn't rockets. With concrete, a couple trillion dollars globally goes to tens of thousands of companies and every single one is incentivized to innovate. There's a larger market and a lower cost of entry.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:08:47 UTC No. 16443202
>>16443189
There's nothing wrong with questioning standard practice, but certain axioms of construction are there for a reason. The reason for using rebar for construction is because the ground is always settling in the world, and in an area like boca chica which is at sea level and surrounding by a wetland on all sides, pure concrete pours for a tower is idiotic. Pure concrete is what existed at the launch pad during IFT1, which failed because the ground underneath wasn't reinforced in a way with rebar piles to redirect the energy deep into the earth. So the raptor blowtorch plap plap'd the ground's cheeks so furiously, it liquefied and caused a destabilization event of the concrete blocks. Which then led to the flame getting through the cracks and launching pieces the sizes of warehouses into the air. So, in this one specific, extreme case, Elon's an actual idiot--where his extreme insistence on cutting cost would have massively backfired with subsequent flights if not for his subordinates basically getting around his autism by atomizing the work orders until he basically just looked at the numbers and said "cool, do it."
If this was literally anywhere else with more stable ground, it probably would have been okay. But it's not. Starbase sits on the equivalent of a water bed and if swing a sledge hammer at it with all your might, bad things are gonna happen without adequate reinforcement.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:09:13 UTC No. 16443203
>>16443191
>I want a pointy missile
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:09:38 UTC No. 16443204
>>16442953
needs her instead
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:11:58 UTC No. 16443206
>>16442995
but starship doesn't have a telly, and no you can't come inside
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:12:04 UTC No. 16443207
>>16443164
So one from your home IP and one from your phone IP
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:12:14 UTC No. 16443208
>>16443202
>are there for reason
You question it. Some times Musk gets wrong, most times Musk gets it right. Musk works first principle mode. Not standard practice mode. Thats because standard practice is an all size fits all and plays safe for no meaningful reasons for singular case purpose. If standard practice is legitimate, then it can be derived from first principles thinking entirely (given appropriate axioms), but as you know, most of the time, standard practice is just bloated regulations.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:13:08 UTC No. 16443210
>>16443193
To expand on this, I also do wonder from time to time up to what an extent large countries can achieve spaceflight feats, if they really cared about it. I have the impression that many, if not all of the G-20 members, can easily achieve Apollo-level of milestones if they brute-force their way into it, perhaps by spending a considerable chunk of their GDP. Sure, engine technology is a bitch and whatnot, but they don't have to reinvent the wheel, and could just steal it like China did.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:14:16 UTC No. 16443212
>>16443200
>>16443191
Musk runs his company like military does theirs. In an ideal military leadership. Leaders are responsible for everything. If leaders dont follow orders of generals, then they get fired.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:14:27 UTC No. 16443213
>>16443100
>they should land it in the outback
I know a place they could land it.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:15:43 UTC No. 16443214
>>16443191
kek, based musk
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:19:55 UTC No. 16443219
>>16443207
You are so delusional
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:20:58 UTC No. 16443222
>>16443191
I mean whatever Musk is doing seems to be working
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:21:17 UTC No. 16443223
>>16443208
The thing though is that he wasn't questioning it, he was refusing to accept it because the cost of the work order was above the minimum that he would tolerate. It had nothing to do with construction itself, and more to do with the cost of construction. That is the fundamental issue here, because it ignores the actual physics based requirements of WHY you need rebar, especially at Boca Chica of all places. There's actually several very good reasons to use rebar, even if they cost a bit more, over pure concrete pours:
1. It allows for energy to be directed from concrete into these metal piles and travel directly into the ground
2. In the event of any geological or blastological destablization events, that energy would also travel via the metal channels deep into the ground
3. The amount of concrete you have to use in the pour to build the structural piles to support the tower and shower head drops considerably, which in turn massively reduces COST
and finally
4. Rebar w/ concrete maintains structural rigidity so that dozens if not hundreds of booster catches on the tower, which causes the entire thing to wobble, doesn't over time lead to stress fractures and eventually causes a major foundational issue.
So atomizing the cost at face value without understanding the entire picture of why you need it, is idiotic and ironically, counter to first principles. Elon was completely wrong and his civil engineers basically worked him, because arguing the point would be laborious with no gain.
Tl;dr, his civil engineers opted to ask for forgiveness than permission, because they knew their boss, for all the smarts that he is, can be a bull headed moron sometimes.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:21:22 UTC No. 16443224
>>16443068
don't be rama rama
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:21:32 UTC No. 16443225
>>16443122
>>16443191
sauce
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:23:52 UTC No. 16443228
my turn
>Managers said automatic safety sensors halted the line whenever people got in the way. Mr. Musk became angry, according to people familiar with what happened. His high-profile gamble on mass-producing electric cars had lagged behind since production began, and here was one more frustration.
>The billionaire entrepreneur began head-butting the front end of a car on the assembly line.“I don’t see how this could hurt me,” he said of vehicles on the slow-speed line. “I want the cars to just keep moving.”
>A senior engineering manager then told Musk that it was a safety measure, according to the Journal’s report. Musk didn’t buy it, and reportedly told the employee to “Get out!”
angry musk is something else
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:26:45 UTC No. 16443230
>>16443228
This was caused by being a pothead btw
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:27:37 UTC No. 16443231
>>16443223
>its only cost of construction
Nah. You're basically ignoring his engineering mind entirely and only pointing towards his economics mind. In reality, its both. Now there is question on whether his engineering axioms are complete or not, but thats to be debated
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:28:13 UTC No. 16443235
>>16443063
>logo of a blacksmith with a double ended hammer
>designed by someone who has never used a hammer in their life
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:28:26 UTC No. 16443237
>>16443202
>>16443223
Hold on, doesn't the quote so hangar? I thought this was about the highbay
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:29:18 UTC No. 16443238
>>16443227
options, and click sauce and edit them out by adding # in front
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:29:20 UTC No. 16443239
>>16443227
it's a setting
disable sauce
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:29:57 UTC No. 16443240
>>16443227
retard
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:30:37 UTC No. 16443241
>>16443239
>>16443238
Thank you
>>16443240
Kys nigger
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:33:09 UTC No. 16443243
>>16443228
based, regulations slowing things down again
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:35:33 UTC No. 16443246
>>16443239
>>16443238
Anything on the >> or am I shit out of luck? Im not a codemonkey if it wasnt obvious enough
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:35:59 UTC No. 16443247
>>16443237
Ultimately, the principle remains the same. Rebar is used in all foundations for several reasons: it mostly has to do with reinforcing structural rigidity and adding strength to the foundation, so that when the ground settles, it doesn't crack the foundation easily. Pure concrete pours might seem like a good idea, but they're not--at least not for any facility that's going to be moving around a huge amount of mass constantly. Plus the amount of concrete you need to make up for the lack of rebar is nearly double. There's also the issue with regulations which can rat fuck you if you did pure concrete vs rebar + concrete.
Also, rebar costs way less than concrete: https://homeguide.com/costs/rebar-p
>>16443231
You're wrong though. That quote, which is the origin of this, has fuck all to do with engineering and entirely to do with cost. The irony of your refusal to see by first principles is laughable. You should quit while you're ahead.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:37:40 UTC No. 16443250
>>16443247
Thats your assumption.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:39:04 UTC No. 16443253
>>16443246
Delete everything on the list, tbqh. The reverse search images functionalities are useless these days and age and serve no real purpose. Its a vestigial function of the old 4chanX code before google nuked their search capabilities entirely.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:39:40 UTC No. 16443254
>>16443246
lol it's just a radio button
no need to edit the lines
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:40:33 UTC No. 16443257
>>16443250
You'll have to explain to the class how: >>16443122, has anything to do with engineering
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:43:04 UTC No. 16443261
>>16443257
it incentivizes the engineers to solve the problems as cheaply as possible to not have to through with similar stunts
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:43:32 UTC No. 16443262
How will they improve the flap shielding for next time?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:43:32 UTC No. 16443263
>>16443255
Beautiful shot of the fog and clouds on the ground, always wanted to see what the upper stage looked like in space too
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:43:56 UTC No. 16443264
>>16443261
Except the problem was not solved and the cost did not fucking change you idiot.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:45:08 UTC No. 16443266
>>16443264
they solved it with this stunt instead of with engineering
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:46:23 UTC No. 16443268
>>16443266
They didn't solve anything. Doing extra steps to achieve the same outcome is not solving a problem. Your mental gymnastics should qualify you for the retard olympics.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:46:50 UTC No. 16443269
>>16443247
Not saying you're wrong because tensile strength of concrete = shit and the cheapest driveways have bar even when the contractors don't give two fucks. But I wouldn't repeat that it's cheaper than concrete without doing a volume calculation. I don't know if a square foot of concrete is 4 inches deep or 12 inches deep. Also bar is placed closer together than 1 foot in a waffle pattern so it's not like 1 foot of bar = 1 sq foot of concrete.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:48:12 UTC No. 16443271
so what would happen after 8 years if elon became president and directed 11% of gdp to space?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:48:49 UTC No. 16443275
>>16443271
Great things.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:50:50 UTC No. 16443277
>>16443257
You're confused. The writing looks to be about cost. But thats not all. What left unsaid is the big part. The same thing has been done again and again with Musk. The "cost" arg isn't something out of thin air, but something Musk has in mind what a true cost of engineering product should be. You haven't read enough on Musk's stories from Berger's other books nor understand where Musk is coming from. There's various stories about Musk forcing others to design something that cost well below 1/10th of the original stated "market price". This has been embedded in the entire company culture where they have vertical integration for everything they cant find true appraised value to engineering functions. Its not an arbitrary money, its true value appraised by Musk himself for the value of the engineered product in mind.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:55:13 UTC No. 16443280
>>16443269
True, but given that they have to drive the piles pretty deep into the Earth in Boca Chica because of how jello-y the ground is, Any surface level volume calculations are kinda moot, given the sheer number of piles they have to do for the bays and the launch site in general. As such, my argument would be that the volume amount of concrete necessary would vastly exceed the cost ratio of rebar + concrete even if you went with the most expensive of rebar options.
Like I said in the very beginning, Elon's first principles thinking and cost cutting is to be admired, but certain construction axioms exist for a reason.
>>16443277
That's true, I have not; those books are on order for this week though. ^ ^
That said, I've read enough over the many threads here and stuff that Berger and from Musk's biography on X to be aware of the examples you've provided. Despite those factors, I would still argue that he's in the wrong here. IFT1 is physical proof of why rebar is needed and IFT 2, 3, 4, and 5 are additional, reinforcing proof, of why his engineers going around Elon's dumbfuckery was a good idea ultimately. Elon himself has stated on camera and on record that he's wrong many times, but its a matter of how wrong and how he can learn from it. We don't know if he learned anything from this, and we'll probably never know. The only points of evidence we have is with IFT1, we saw slabs of concrete the size of 18 wheelers fly because the pad underneath the launch mount had no rebar and everything after that had rebar.
Any argument beyond that is moot.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:55:17 UTC No. 16443281
>>16443096
Saturn V is grandpa WW2 vet cool
Falcon 9 is edgy special forces tacticool
SS is space marine in power armor cool
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:56:58 UTC No. 16443283
>>16443227
why?
its useful if you want to find the sauce for goon posts
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:59:07 UTC No. 16443287
>>16443277
How gay are you for Musk anon?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:04:56 UTC No. 16443292
>>16443280
>IFT1
There were rebars for IFT1. It just wasn't enough. And they had already known there were some issues but they just didnt know how much of an issues. So they had planned for backups just in case, prior to the launch. And when I say "they" I meant the team of engineers doing the technical reviews/debates. Its now like a round table of engineers debating and doing number crunching to find an optimal design path.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:10:50 UTC No. 16443295
How do we know rebar had anything to do with the launchpad being pulverized? The engine exhaust presses evenly on the surface right? So it's not like there is sheer stress. I thought the problem was the concrete got overheated and lost strength. Intuitively if they had the shower head but no rebar why would it fail? Would it crack along the outside perimeter?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:13:04 UTC No. 16443297
>>16443107
The first stage taking the whole stack to Mach 7 blew my mind
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:16:36 UTC No. 16443300
>>16443255
fairings are so cute
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:18:39 UTC No. 16443302
>>16443281
Good enough analogy, yeah
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:28:11 UTC No. 16443312
>>16443271
Does he also allocate the budget? If not, then the SLS will begin launching at slightly more than once per year
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:35:25 UTC No. 16443320
>>16443297
If Superheavy was expended it'd probably achieve similar mach numbers at burnout.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:37:35 UTC No. 16443324
>>16442503
That's actually smaller than I expected it to be, and I didn't have any problem with going 100% solar on Mars in the first place
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:37:38 UTC No. 16443325
>>16443180
Not get sued by Blade runner producers :)
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:47:46 UTC No. 16443329
>>16443262
If you can't tell the difference with the V2 Ship's flap on your own there isn't much we can do for you.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:50:39 UTC No. 16443331
I didn't believe you guys about pressure fed astronaut but I'm 3 minutes into his IFT-4 video and goddamn is this guy a faggot.
Even dumber in retrospect with IFT-5.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:51:07 UTC No. 16443333
starliner status?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:52:05 UTC No. 16443335
>>16443333
no launch date, not even net
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:53:30 UTC No. 16443336
>>16443333
Grim, Boeing is probably going to have to redesign the thruster 'doghouses'.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:57:40 UTC No. 16443338
>>16443331
he's also a fan of the OTRAG rocket
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:57:59 UTC No. 16443340
>>16443333
Quads, not good outlook right now.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:59:05 UTC No. 16443341
>>16443338
A fan in the sense he appreciates the retarded absurdity of the idea or he actually think it'd work?
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:59:52 UTC No. 16443343
>>16443333
Delayed till 2026+?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:00:50 UTC No. 16443344
>>16443255
>>16443300
F9 fairings are honestly one of my favorite spacecraft
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:03:03 UTC No. 16443345
>>16443341
there is a reason hes called presure fed astronaut. he is obsessed with low tech mass manufacture designs like pressure fed engines or otrags.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:03:27 UTC No. 16443346
>>16443300
no, they're an animet objects
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:08:00 UTC No. 16443348
>>16443333
NET 2033
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:08:32 UTC No. 16443349
>>16443345
What a retard.
And he has the gall to call casey handmer retarded.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:12:52 UTC No. 16443352
>>16442944
>Artemis 13
>2029
We'd be lucky to get to Artemis 4 done by 29'
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:18:04 UTC No. 16443356
>>16443012
>so appealing to Congress
It basically ensures the American hegemony in space, I don't think even Biden was so opposed to it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:18:24 UTC No. 16443357
>>16443352
>HLS uncrewed AND crewed demo
>same year
It's POSSIBLE, but it'd make me nervous. How many lunar landings between HLS demo-1 and the HLS crewed demo? Because my guess would be in the 0-1 range.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:20:56 UTC No. 16443358
>>16443352
The SLS hardware for Artemis II should be ready sometime next year, but I don't see any way they have the next booster for Artemis III ready before sometime in 2027. SLS production is nowhere near the state it needs to be to produce one rocket per year
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:25:36 UTC No. 16443360
>>16443131
>Just import hundreds of tons of volcanic ash from Italy
>Mix it in a highly experimental process because no one has invested in developing roman concrete in 1600yrs
>Wait a 100yrs for the pores and cracks in the concrete to recrystalise from the sea air
It's just that easy
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:33:14 UTC No. 16443364
>>16443352
Does SLS also need environmental reviews for every launch in case they hit a shark or a whale? If so, I don't know how they expect this timeline to be any close to reality...
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:39:57 UTC No. 16443366
Looks like this was overlooked because of the F9 fairings clip but
>https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/stat
>The launch site clearly held up very well during Flight 5's launch and catch if they roll out Flight 6's Booster 13 on Tuesday and then Static Fire it on the 23rd!
>Primary Day: Possible Closure Oct 23, 2024 from 6:00 p.m. to 12:00 a.m.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:42:06 UTC No. 16443368
>>16443364
>Be a science student in 2020
>Do a science fair project demonstrating a giant robot catching a steel Atlas V returning from space with it's arms
>Get expelled for being a retard
>In 2024 everyone says it's not even hard to do
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:42:23 UTC No. 16443369
>>16443364
No but they need to torture 10 seals when they need to finish a CDR otherwise Shelby's ghost adds a year in delays
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:47:27 UTC No. 16443371
>>16443349
in fairness pressurefedastronaut isnt a retarded shill who laughs in the face of reality. he actually did a trade study of otrag and concluded it was impossible to make work. then he did another with his own more complex higher performace otrag and it still didnt work.
despite that though he thinks starship would be better off using pressure fed engines because they are far easier to maintain and reuse. its true but the problem is obviously low isp
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:51:37 UTC No. 16443375
>>16443371
FFSC would be great for reuse too if spacex weren't pushing it so hard.
who knows, maybe it still will be, they've preformed miracles before
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:55:20 UTC No. 16443379
>>16443378
Also the retard that made this didnt account for the header tank
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:55:29 UTC No. 16443380
>>16443378
where are the giant windows
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:56:37 UTC No. 16443383
>>16443378
needs more crackhead nests everywhere
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:57:50 UTC No. 16443385
>>16443379
Where is the HLS docking port go? Some renders have shown it docking nose-first and I've wondered the same thing about what that means for the header tank.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:00:36 UTC No. 16443386
>>16443379
>>16443385
no header tanks on starships that aren't preforming belly flops
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:01:10 UTC No. 16443387
>>16443375
>if spacex weren't pushing it so hard
youre right. spacex pushing the material limits of raptor so much is sure to do bad things for reusability. I think theyve accepted this and will hotswap engines on the ground. Raptor 3 clearly isnt designed with lifespan and serviceability in mind since it cant be opened without cutting it in half lmao. but yeah maybe they will do a miracle.
I think in 5 years it could become apparent that New Glenn is a more reusable booster than falcon 9 or superheavy. be4 is nowhere near the material limits on purpose.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:05:52 UTC No. 16443392
>>16443386
If there is crew they will be reentering an atmosphere.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:07:41 UTC No. 16443393
>>16443392
they will transfer to an orion capsule.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:08:11 UTC No. 16443394
>>16443392
[loud buzzer sound]
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:11:33 UTC No. 16443397
>>16443391
>most successful rocket ever
>failed
I don't understand.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:12:06 UTC No. 16443398
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/184852
>Successful mission of CZ-6 launched at TSLC
The payload is described as a ground-based radar/optical surveillance calibration target for orbital objects monitoring equipment.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:14:51 UTC No. 16443403
I wonder if the Soviets ever accounted for project orion, and designed their own pulse nuclear ship
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:16:04 UTC No. 16443404
>>16443397
soyuz has flown more times.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:17:32 UTC No. 16443405
>>16443391
>>16443404
so has black brant
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:19:59 UTC No. 16443407
>>16443392
Not on HLS, that's staying at Gateway between missions anon. Once it's out there why bring it back?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:20:42 UTC No. 16443408
>>16443371
The problems with pressure fed engines for launch go far beyond low Isp.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:20:46 UTC No. 16443409
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:24:29 UTC No. 16443410
>>16443409
crazy how every rocket looks small and unimpressive now
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:25:05 UTC No. 16443412
>watching scott manleys europa clipper video
>finally gets to the part about the cameras
>8 MEGAPIXEL CAMERA
WTF?!
no seriously wtf my 10 year old phone has a better fucking camera
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:25:46 UTC No. 16443413
>>16443410
yeah but that is a small and unimpressive rocket
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:29:47 UTC No. 16443419
>>16443404
Do people consider Soyuz 11A511, Soyuz-L, Soyuz-M, Soyuz-U, Soyuz-U2, Soyuz-FG, and Soyuz-2 all to be the same rocket?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:33:00 UTC No. 16443421
>>16443419
NTA
I do
But I’m also a psychopath who considers the SM-65 Atlas missile from the circa 1950s the same thing as a modern Atlas V even though this can be argued against.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:33:44 UTC No. 16443423
>>16443412
sorry but if you want better cameras then increase nasa funding. that stuff is expensive.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:34:50 UTC No. 16443424
>>16443419
are falcon 9 v1, v1.1, ft, block 4, and block 5 the same rocket?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:35:13 UTC No. 16443425
>>16443410
It is. The LM-6 is SAST's answer to the Minotaur-C and Epsilon. Vega-C lifts the same payload as two of these.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:35:14 UTC No. 16443426
>>16443408
redpill me on pressure fed engines?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:44:16 UTC No. 16443434
>>16443426
useless hunks of junk. no i will not elaborate
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:49:09 UTC No. 16443438
>>16443096
Basically what >>16443281 said.
But in terms of aesthetics nothing will ever top the Saturn V.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:49:23 UTC No. 16443439
>>16443421
The more I learn about obscure rockets, the less I'm sure which one belongs to which family. It's all a mess. At the end of the day, it's just some names made by people.
>>16443424
This one is tricky. I recall Musk having said that Falcon 9 v1.0 and current versions are so different to each other that they are basically two different rockets. However, SpaceX has advertised them as the same one. Seems there's no true, objective guideline on how to classify rockets, and when a launcher should have a different name. Reminds me of the Ship of Theseus.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:56:13 UTC No. 16443447
>>16443438
youre staring at its superior in the OP.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:58:28 UTC No. 16443449
so how do i explain to my mom that im into loli?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:58:32 UTC No. 16443450
>>16443436
Getting propellent off the Earth is going to keep being a nightmare until the moment some gets produced elsewhere.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:59:16 UTC No. 16443451
>>16443449
kill yourself first then leave a note saying why you did so. ywngts
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:10:00 UTC No. 16443465
>>16443449
Not my fault they look so fuckable
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:30:00 UTC No. 16443483
>>16443450
Could be 50 starship launches to refill the depot and it would still be cheaper than one SLS launch.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:52:31 UTC No. 16443501
>>16443483
Good lord that's sobering.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:10:06 UTC No. 16443508
>>16443063
>>16443072
But wouldn't having more SRB (shitty rocket boosters) also increase the chance of catastrophic failure?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:14:08 UTC No. 16443510
Neutron status?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:15:06 UTC No. 16443512
>>16443510
activated
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:18:36 UTC No. 16443514
>>16443508
I assume they've done some kind of internal study that proves there's not actually any issue and everything is fine
The good news is that if it blows up this time there'll be real consequences
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:20:30 UTC No. 16443515
>>16443235
dewalt flexvolt hammer
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:22:14 UTC No. 16443516
>>16443510
no expectation until the rocket operates nicely
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:22:34 UTC No. 16443517
FTS status?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:25:05 UTC No. 16443519
>>16443364
SLS is not launched from a nature reserve
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:31:26 UTC No. 16443522
>>16442503
>>16442630
at least if trump wins theres a much higher chance spacex will be allowed to use nuclear
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:40:51 UTC No. 16443527
>>16443522
You sound like a gay nigger baby
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:45:04 UTC No. 16443529
>>16443289
The GEM-63XL "Widowmaker" has a demonstrated failure rate of 25% -- 2 Vulcan flights using a total of 4 SRBs with one catastrophic nozzle detach.
Good luck Antigua. Heads up!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:45:34 UTC No. 16443530
>>16443527
that's not a nice thing to call someone
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:47:33 UTC No. 16443531
>>16443530
which part you take offense to
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:52:13 UTC No. 16443537
>>16443529
Vulcan will never be “human certified” anyways
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:54:56 UTC No. 16443540
>>16443450
why don't we just setup like a really long hose
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:01:59 UTC No. 16443552
>>16443537
It will unless Boing! cancels shartliner. All the remaining Atlas Vs are spoken for.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:03:36 UTC No. 16443555
>>16443552
Why cancel it? You just fly the remaining six operational missions and then declare the project a completed success
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:07:40 UTC No. 16443562
>>16443552
are they? I thought they were reserved for starliner
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:08:09 UTC No. 16443563
>>16443562
You thought wrong.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:09:21 UTC No. 16443565
>>16443562
Thought the remaining stock was half for Starliner and half for USGov missions?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:11:02 UTC No. 16443566
>>16443565
I'm pretty sure amazon bought a few for kuiper
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:11:56 UTC No. 16443568
>>16443566
Shart and piss.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:19:45 UTC No. 16443578
>>16443568
iPeed. iPood. iPaid
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:25:38 UTC No. 16443586
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Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:26:00 UTC No. 16443587
>>16443555
>Why cancel it?
Because Starliner still doesn't work, there were multiple failures with the thrusters and whatever else the after flight report finds. Since Boeing has lost and continues to lose billions on the program, they have no incentive to throw good money after bad fixing the problems. And they know their besties at NASA won't come looking for your money back.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:28:10 UTC No. 16443589
>>16443586
Visit our NSF forums and enjoy retired NASA employees with inflation indexed government pensions shouting at you.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:33:25 UTC No. 16443593
death to all europeans
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:34:50 UTC No. 16443596
>>16442756
a lot of these people only supported spaceflight insofar as it was government run and aligned with their dreams of a communist utopia in space
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:34:59 UTC No. 16443597
>>16443540
Geostationary depot connected by semi-rigid space-hose.
-4ASS proposal
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:36:01 UTC No. 16443599
guys emergency qwuestion: does margarine expire? i bought it last year, it says expires auguest 2024
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:37:51 UTC No. 16443601
>>16443597
>24,000km of pump pressure
>pumping cryogens on the equator
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:38:14 UTC No. 16443602
>>16443599
Yes. Its extremely deadly when expired too. You didnt eat some on accident right??
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:40:04 UTC No. 16443603
SpaceX gonna own global telecom, all mass to orbit and is about to have the first gas station in space and people are still stuck thinking it's a shady ghost company stealing a couple of billion dollars from the government to prop up Tesla shares.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:42:35 UTC No. 16443606
>>16443603
>we gotta put a gas station in orbit so i can buy me some space cheeseburgers and hotdogs or whatever
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:44:57 UTC No. 16443609
>>16443603
this need to be posted everywhere lol
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:51:33 UTC No. 16443614
>>16443606
Let's see your country's space program.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:53:18 UTC No. 16443615
>>16443614
Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh, my God.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:56:44 UTC No. 16443619
>>16442503
solar has practically 0 UPS cost so even if it takes up all that area it lets you make a bigger base
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:57:47 UTC No. 16443621
>>16443619
Shut up nucleartard
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:59:06 UTC No. 16443623
>>16443601
Pressure provided by a lake
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:59:34 UTC No. 16443624
>>16443210
>>16443193
honestly, despite the general consensus here that only china and america will care about space this century, i do believe that other nations will begin trying to catch up around the 2030s, but they'll have to brute force it by spending a large portion of their GDP and probably won't be able to cultivate a large commercial industry
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:02:12 UTC No. 16443626
>>16443602
I made kraft macaroni and cheese and i forgot i ate the last stick of butter last monday, so i found margarine. it didnt smell or have mold, i ate the whole thing. it's really dangerous??
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:02:17 UTC No. 16443627
>>16443275
>>16443312
assuming he allocates the budget too
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:04:42 UTC No. 16443630
>>16442503
funny enough, our need all those panels just to refuel a single ship. to say nothing of sustaining the colony, or refueling multiple ships
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:05:46 UTC No. 16443633
>>16443626
You should update your will while you still can.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:11:46 UTC No. 16443640
>>16443633
this is not something to joke about. my stomach does feel weird
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:14:59 UTC No. 16443642
>>16443640
>my stomach does feel weird
Then see a doctor. No one can say for certain without testing the margarine that you ate already.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:15:43 UTC No. 16443645
>>16443642
i can't afford that, why do you think i was eating expired food?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:16:31 UTC No. 16443647
>>16443645
Margarine isn't food even when expired.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:19:48 UTC No. 16443650
>>16443602
Why wouldn't you warn him sooner before he ate it? Are you trying to kill /sfg/?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:24:33 UTC No. 16443652
>>16443645
Well why bother asking us if you are dead set on stomaching it? You identify eating expired margarine as the problem, when the actual problem is you are sick. The expired food part is irrelevant. Are you sick enough that you have to see a doctor?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:29:43 UTC No. 16443657
/sfg/ - Spoiled Food General
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:31:13 UTC No. 16443659
>>16443657
goddammit, you beat me to it lmao, I was already looking for a word that starts with s
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:00:35 UTC No. 16443682
zero gravity encourages fermentation
space alcohol
>>16443098
there will be a quarantine chamber
and a super quarantine enclosure in that chamber for cleaning purposes
"The second phase of this research is focused on the optimization of fermentation in enclosed environments (i.e. space stations and habitats) to help crews make safe palatable food with minimal infrastructure. It is difficult and often impossible to grow fresh produce in space environments and there is limited access supply chains and food variability. A prototype for a Space Fermentation Chamber is in development to manage and capture data on fermented food products, working towards a closed-loop food system with near term benefits targeting food waste management and the preservation of limited fresh ingredients. Not only can the Space Fermentation Chamber grow food, but it could support the ecosystem of future space stations, using recycled water and feeding CO2 back into plant growth systems. This system will involve crew support, and we are taking a phased approach to develop a rigorous flight testing platform for developing and improving the technology, system, and applications for the biological samples (i.e. raw materials and fermented food products). Hardware currently under development for a Space Fermentation Chamber will be tested on an upcoming parabolic test and working towards future internal missions to the ISS.
This research has direct Earth benefits as well since space is one of the best tests of sustainability, relying on closed loop systems. If the Space Fermentation Chamber proves successful in closed space habitats, it could also provide terrestrial solutions where resources are scarce."
>This experiment was supported by the NASA-funded Translational Research Institute of Space Health (TRISH).
you know what ruins ferments
microbial contamination
why you sterilize your equipment
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:01:51 UTC No. 16443685
>>16443682
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl
It is highly possible to obtain high-quality microbial products in appreciable amounts, as aerospace technology is advancing continuously. Genome-wide genetic variations in microorganisms can be triggered by space microgravity and radiation. Mutation rate is high, mutant range is wide, and final mutant character is stable. Therefore, space microorganism breeding is growing to be a new and promising area in microbial science and has greatly propelled the development of fermentation technology. Numerous studies have discovered the following improvements of fermentation potential in microorganisms after exposure to space: (1) reduction in fermentation cycle and increase in growth rate; (2) improvement of mixed fermentation species; (3) increase in bacterial conjugation efficiency and motility; (4) improvement of the bioactivity of various key enzymes and product quality; (5) enhancement of multiple adverse stress resistance; (6) improvement of fermentation metabolites, flavor, appearance, and stability. Aerospace fermentation technology predominantly contributes to bioprocessing in a microgravity environment. Unlike terrestrial fermentation, aerospace fermentation keeps cells suspended in the fluid medium without significant shear forces. Space radiation and microgravity have physical, chemical, and biological effects on mutant microorganisms by causing alternation in fluid dynamics and genome, transcriptome, proteome, and metabolome levels.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:03:34 UTC No. 16443687
>>16443685
James Woodford
29 February 2024
>A fermentation experiment on the International Space Station produced miso paste with a flavour distinct from two samples that were fermented on Earth
the first deliberate food fermentation ever conducted off Earth
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:03:58 UTC No. 16443688
>>16443682
Can semen be made into alcohol? Trying to think of ways to recycle nut since you dont want to waste anything on Mars.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:08:28 UTC No. 16443690
>>16443688
mars will have mandatory semen retention outside of breeding
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:33:01 UTC No. 16443720
stop believing in felon husks LIES
https://youtu.be/nKUKoqswDSg?si=fKz
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:39:35 UTC No. 16443722
>>16443687
Yeast exists on the ISS so brewing and baking are possible
You could potentially make space cheese on the ISS, although it would probably taste awful
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:51:38 UTC No. 16443729
>>16443439
The only objective way is by name, because even within a family rockets differ wildly in configuration
Hell just look at the Delta family, the II was kerolox/hypergolic and the IV was hydrolox
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:53:59 UTC No. 16443730
>>16443722
Under the space environment, mutant DNA occurs at a global chromosomal level because of the deletion, replacement, or insertion of bases, which is higher than on the earth (Mulkey, 2010) and improves the fermentation potentials of microorganisms, such as Lactobacillus acidophilus (Shao et al., 2017), Saccharomyces cerevisiae (Liu et al., 2008), and Bacillus subtilis (Nicholson and Ricco, 2019).
On November 1, 2011, the Shenzhou VIII spacecraft began a large-scale space microbiology experiment equipped with 15 microorganisms (Su et al., 2013). The study revealed changes in bacterial invasion, antibiotic resistance, and environmental adaptation. The mechanisms may be caused by various factors, including genome, transcriptome, proteome, and metabolome. On the same date, engineered bacterial strains with recombinant human interferon a1b were launched into the space station. Five mutant engineered bacterial strains showed significantly higher production of recombinant human interferon a1b and one strain with twofold increase in antibiotic activities (Wang et al., 2014). The mutant tetrodotoxin strains via spatial mutagenesis can be used for industrial production of toxins.
The effect of the space environment on production of antibiotic actinomycin D by Streptomyces plicatus was tested in US Space Shuttle STS-80. The space flight reduced the number of cells in CFU/ml of S. plicatus and increased the productivity of actinomycin D (Lam et al., 2002). Deletion of the ribosomal protein gene in the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae was detected after flight in the Russian space station, suggesting that space radiation containing high-linear energy transfer causes deletion-type mutants (Fukuda et al., 2000). In another study, three fungal species, Aspergillus sydowii, Penicillium palitans, and Rhodotorula mucilaginosa, grew in the Japanese Space Station KIBO for 7 years and the fungi are still increasing and expanding over time (Satoh et al., 2021).
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:55:04 UTC No. 16443731
>>16443730
Aerospace biotechnology opens a way for effectively cultivating new varieties and special germplasm resources and has a bright future ahead. With the improvement of fermentation products, there is a boom in modern industry and agriculture. With the continuous development of world spacecraft, space methods will be applied to various areas, pushing for more reliable studies on space microorganisms. However, there are still some challenges for space microorganism research. Apparently, there is still a lack of effective methods to avoid the generation of harmful mutant microbes, and some of them may be deadly.
Post-spaceflight lab screening lacks methods for controlling the direction of mutagenesis, and more mutagenesis pathways need to be further explored and investigated. Most human pathogenic isolates from space stations have been found to be multidrug-resistant, such as sulfamethoxazole, erythromycin, and ampicillin, which will cause a dilemma in the antibiotic industry.
>human pathogenic isolates from space stations have been found to be multidrug-resistant
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:57:28 UTC No. 16443734
>>16443329
>V2 Ship
Never even looked at it
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 07:00:25 UTC No. 16443736
>>16443366
So if rollout a tally happens today, flight 6 might happen very rapidly
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 07:07:04 UTC No. 16443740
>>16443729
I propose a points system:
>identical 1st stage - 1/2 point
>identical 2nd stage - 1/2 point
>classification retained if solid boosters are optional
>new classification if solid boosters not optional
>liquid fuel boosters/1st stage - 1/3 points
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 07:14:53 UTC No. 16443747
>>16443736
inb4 it's a b12 static fire
flight 6 has the potential to be the dullest starship launch yet. The only new objective would be an in-space relight of the raptors on the ship, everything else possible on a short turnaround time with minimal FAA interference has already been demonstrated. V2 launches can't come soon enough
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 07:15:43 UTC No. 16443748
>>16443729
And then, there's the Chinese naming scheme. Where adding one extra letter at the end of a rocket's name means it's a launcher from a complete different family lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 07:32:25 UTC No. 16443752
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18485
>And it will improve significantly when Starship starts launching the third generation satellites at 350km altitude (5 ms speed of light round trip latency) with larger antennas that allow for multi-gigabit bandwidth
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:01:01 UTC No. 16443764
why the fuck is nasa so gay about getting microbrobes on europa or mars I WANT TO COLONISE SPACE NIGGERS IF THERE IS NO LIFE THERE WE WILL CREAT IT AND IF THERE IS MAY THE BEST MICROBE WIN
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:03:29 UTC No. 16443765
>>16443763
We'll never know if they have real re-usability. For all we know, they'll just de-orbit the booster on top of a town then post a mock up video of it landing.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:06:27 UTC No. 16443770
>>16443764
>i want to colonise space niggers
Disgusting coal burner
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:08:48 UTC No. 16443772
>>16443765
so far thunderf00t hasn't debunked them, they are legit
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:09:15 UTC No. 16443774
>>16443770
would space have coal?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:13:40 UTC No. 16443780
>>16443772
Man, the VTVL demonstrations in that vid up until 2024 are uncanny valley tier. I know chinese business, those rockets are like 50% electric flywheel by mass.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:14:15 UTC No. 16443781
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/
Daily reminder that SLS is a piece of shit
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:21:53 UTC No. 16443789
>>16443781
https://on.soundcloud.com/CxGvTxRnd
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:27:35 UTC No. 16443800
>>16443392
Just dock with a dragon capsule
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:49:02 UTC No. 16443828
>>16443344
Unironically, they are spaceplanes
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:53:57 UTC No. 16443833
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:54:34 UTC No. 16443834
>Payload calls Starship's low-cost manufacturing a "breakthrough in rocketry," with SpaceX on a path to eventually reduce the cost of a single flight of a fully reusable Starship rocket to less than $10 million. However, Starship is still very much a development program, and Payload estimates it currently costs around $90 million for SpaceX to build a fully stacked Starship rocket. The vast majority of this cost goes toward the rocket's 39 Raptor engines and labor expenses.
So nothing stops SpaceX from just launching like 4 disposible Starships with no landing hardware to refuel the HLS if Starship's reusability gets delayed? Just reuse the booster. It would only cost what? 20 Million to build one Starship? Launching four expendable ones would cost less than a Vulcan launch lmao.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:56:09 UTC No. 16443836
>>16443833
the engines, 3 are using methalox and the rest keralox
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:57:47 UTC No. 16443837
Clear's exclamations during the booster catch were pretty erotic desu
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:58:06 UTC No. 16443838
>>16443836
>literally all of them are GG-cycled
Lame
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:58:41 UTC No. 16443839
>>16443834
yeah I guess
they haven't reused the booster yet though and Musk has said that he hopes they can catch a ship in 2025 and the orbital refilling should happen in 2025 too
re-launching Booster 12 with small repairs and replacing the engines with warped bells would be pretty kino
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:03:06 UTC No. 16443841
>>16443836
most of them have expendable smallsat launchers providing some revenue a bit like rocketlab
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:05:29 UTC No. 16443843
>>16443833
>iSpace
based
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:08:37 UTC No. 16443844
>>16443834
The neat thing about re-usable rockets is that they reduce the cost of fully expendable launches as well.
Both of the side boosters on the europa clipper launch had seen 5 previous launches and were two years old. More profits for SpaceX, more savings for NASA (who fucking need it).
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:16:23 UTC No. 16443849
>>16443839
2025 is the year of starship. They gotta get a depot into space then launch test the block 2 starship. 25% more thrust on both stages, 25% more fuel on starship, integrated hot staging shield, weight reductions, flaps out of the plasma flow. That's gonna be something.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:30:23 UTC No. 16443857
>>16443465
CUTE
would help her put on/get out of her suit
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:32:13 UTC No. 16443859
Isn't Starship already safer than Shuttle? The former already had 2 successful landings despite loss of tiles and burn throughs. When the same happened to Shuttle, it resulted in Columbia disaster and the other time it was saved by a metal antenna, which prevented a loss of vehicle.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:48:56 UTC No. 16443875
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:52:29 UTC No. 16443878
>>16443859
The shuttle was aluminium.
Engineer's best friend on paper. Spectacular and absurd failure modes, even the shitty space-age alloys that NASA and the navy cooked up.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:56:12 UTC No. 16443883
>>16443875
>Mission was 3 flights over 45 days
>Instead did 72 flights over 3 years
Meanwhile, the rovers shut down because they couldn't allocate any weight for cleaning the solar panels.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:12:39 UTC No. 16443890
>>16443875
>developed for less than $25m, because JPL was spending its own money.
based noticer
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:18:24 UTC No. 16443891
>>16443883
I'm still SO MAD.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:20:53 UTC No. 16443892
>>16443891
Sad given the scientific data from this one changed fundamental assumptions about the planet's geology whereas the RTG powered ones have basically just confirmed what we already knew.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:22:22 UTC No. 16443896
>>16443883
it's not that easy in wiper-y
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:24:13 UTC No. 16443898
>>16443891
>>16443875
"On 14 June 2021, the Director of the Mars Exploration program, E. Janson, and the Principal Mars Explorer, M. Meyer, directly addressed all the staff of the Mars 2020 project. During this address they cautioned the staff to keep their Ingenuity enthusiasm in check, and concentrate on collecting samples. On the same date, in their report to the Planetary Advisory Committee (PAC), the helicopter was mentioned only in the past tense, e.g. "...placed Ingenuity and completed the technology demonstration phase..." "
lmao ingenuity buttblasted mars bureaucrats so hard.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:26:01 UTC No. 16443900
>>16443891
MARTIAN DUST ISNT A PROBL-ACK!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:27:24 UTC No. 16443904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0E
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:30:00 UTC No. 16443909
>>16443096
The saturn V is cool and all but the N1 was the peak of rocket aesthetics and nothing even comes close.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:30:08 UTC No. 16443910
>>16443898
its a threat to their gravy train
NASA really needs massive reform
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:36:26 UTC No. 16443912
>>16443909
>nothing even comes close
wrong
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:39:44 UTC No. 16443914
>>16443352
Artemis will exclusively use Starship variants after 2028
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:47:02 UTC No. 16443917
>>16443912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9H
comfy videos where they visit some abandoned burans
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:47:20 UTC No. 16443918
>>16443720
>karen
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:48:59 UTC No. 16443919
>>16443115
>>16443119
>>16443909
>>16443912
Russian rockets are very aesthetically pleasing and tickle my autism. Lots of greebles and little details. Meanwhile everyone else does "plain white tube #42481"
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:52:45 UTC No. 16443921
>>16443781
Uhhh, can you stop posting this RETARD?????
Like come on, this is the same guy who said you could TERRAFORM mars for 10 BILLION dollars in 10 YEARS?????
Embarrassing desu
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:54:45 UTC No. 16443923
>>16443921
fat people are so disgusting
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:56:38 UTC No. 16443926
>>16443720
that's a tranny
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:56:59 UTC No. 16443927
>>16443912
The energia we got was okay, it would've surpassed N1 if they got the full moon stack but sadly that never happened.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:00:20 UTC No. 16443929
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/0Ph7a3fU
Space Pioneer having only 500 employees is quite impressive, most private LSP have/had ~twice the headcount at similar development stage (one medium launcher operational and a heavy launcher in late development, usually the most ressource intensive part)
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:11:27 UTC No. 16443936
>>16443412
Welcome to spaceflight. FWIW the camera also has a tiny field of view & is meant to take many pictures that form one large high definition image. Europa Clipper will produce images of Europa at far better resolution than any camera before.
>>16443519
yeah it is
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:17:44 UTC No. 16443939
>>16443917
Quiet and desolated Russian/Soviet places have such a characteristic ambience to it, hard to describe it, but they feel so comfy and nostalgic. Just imagine, constant white noise in the background, some snow and wind outside, grayish colors everywhere, everything looks depressing as shit, and you feel like you are stuck in the 90s/early 2000s.
This other unrelated video somehow shows it perfectly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2A
Half Life's soundtrack goes hand in hand with the experience.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:21:24 UTC No. 16443942
Hello haven't been here in a week do we have new on how they are planning to mitigate engine damage during superheavy reentry.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:21:25 UTC No. 16443943
>>16443096
>Saturn Vee
>*sips*
>Now THERE was a rocket
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:22:15 UTC No. 16443944
>>16443942
Raptor 3's fix it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:22:25 UTC No. 16443946
>>16443921
>TERRAFORM mars for 10 BILLION dollars in 10 YEARS?????
Using mobile phones no less (as I understand it)
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:22:51 UTC No. 16443947
>>16442503
s-solarbros
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:23:37 UTC No. 16443948
>>16443946
I thought it was with orbital mirrors?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:25:25 UTC No. 16443950
>>16443931
Wild that Starship is on the horizon and NASA basically still hasn't reacted to the Falcon 9
>>16443941
I'm so ready for the post flight music video
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:25:45 UTC No. 16443951
>>16443947
And to think just a few little ceramic pellets of nuclear fuel can replace all of that, and more.
Self-heating rocks are one of God’s magical gifts to man
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:25:57 UTC No. 16443952
>>16443948
Yeah made in mobile phone factories. He says instead of making chinkshit phones, use the factories to make microsatellites consisting of a mirror and an ion drive. Then just spam them at Mars.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:27:17 UTC No. 16443953
>>16443952
Whats the problem with this?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:27:48 UTC No. 16443954
>>16443953
It's silly
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:28:49 UTC No. 16443956
>>16443954
You're silly
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:30:17 UTC No. 16443957
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:30:30 UTC No. 16443958
/sfg/ is AWAKE
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:31:06 UTC No. 16443959
>>16443849
>still no propellant transfer hardware seen on ships
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:31:40 UTC No. 16443960
>>16443954
It's only silly to imagine that anyone but Martians will be motivated to do it. Areoengineering will come after self sufficiency, when a Martian economy based on rapid growth needs to point itself somewhere else
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:32:00 UTC No. 16443961
>>16443957
You agree with PFA
Q.E.D.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:32:17 UTC No. 16443962
>>16443951
Well said. These thing have so much energy in them it's insane.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:32:57 UTC No. 16443964
>>16442503
Not so fast, nuclearfags
https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/1
>When Zubrin pointed out that it would require 6-10 football fields of solar panels to refuel a single Starship Elon said "Fine, that's what we will do".
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:33:39 UTC No. 16443965
>>16443963
but it's mid-day?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:34:28 UTC No. 16443966
>>16443962
do those tiny ass fins actually do anything?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:36:10 UTC No. 16443967
>>16443964
The plan was nuclear from the very beginning, its just that he wasn't allowed to say it, not back then, not now, but soon. Soon he will vocally press for full nuclear Mars, this has been obvious for a decade or more. Now SpaceX has a track record that is unbeatable, the government is going to have a hard time saying no to launching BIG reactors to Mars.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:36:11 UTC No. 16443968
>>16443964
Why do that when 1 starship with 1 NPP would be enough?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:36:11 UTC No. 16443969
>>16443966
compensate for the lackluster control algorithm
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:39:00 UTC No. 16443970
>>16443966
lost technology blyat, they build it because it's always been built like that, don't need to know why. it just works
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:40:06 UTC No. 16443971
>>16443968
Gubnment says no, basically.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:41:07 UTC No. 16443972
>>16443964
>>16443971
So unfair that Lockheed, Northrop, and friends can play with nuclear material all they want, but for SpaceX this is a big no no lmao, it'll be like the FAA issue all over again.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:41:45 UTC No. 16443973
>>16443967
Gov wont allow SpaceX to get nuclear fusion. Shotwell said it in one of the closed door talks at a university few years back
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:42:03 UTC No. 16443974
>>16443964
>Elon said "Fine, that's what we will do".
Elon also said chopsticks would work and look where that got us.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:42:24 UTC No. 16443975
>>16443972
>FAA kill
>FCC kill
>CCC kill
Nuclear regulatory commission next. Repent sinners
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:42:39 UTC No. 16443976
>>16443972
Are there any police on mars to bitch at them?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:44:15 UTC No. 16443978
>>16443976
There's always the Space Cops
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:46:42 UTC No. 16443981
>>16443978
>Mfw even space cops get the airlock
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:47:48 UTC No. 16443983
>>16443978
>>16443981
Space Marines > Space Cops
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:49:34 UTC No. 16443984
>>16443983
Space Cadets
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:49:51 UTC No. 16443985
>>16443983
That's gay
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:55:57 UTC No. 16443987
>china wants to do a venus atmosphere sample return
oh cool
>NET 2050
we gotta get away from this multidecade bullshit
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:56:12 UTC No. 16443988
>>16443985
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall -- you need me on that wall.
We use words like "honor," "code," "loyalty." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.
I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand the post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're entitled to!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:58:07 UTC No. 16443990
>>16443987
kek, being a space enthusiast is just suffering.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:02:37 UTC No. 16443994
>>16443990
it's like if people in 1900 wanted to conquer the south pole, but then kept putting it off until 1950 unless they could verify the flag wouldn't 'pollute' it
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:04:01 UTC No. 16443995
>>16443994
isn't this why you need special permission to visit Antarctica?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:07:17 UTC No. 16443998
>>16443995
>anon discovers the root of the 'Antarctica not Mars' death cult trannies
they will restrict space with this too if we let them
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:09:44 UTC No. 16444000
>>16443942
by cooling them with internal channels
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:10:42 UTC No. 16444001
>>16443994
>Oldspace is Scott's Terra Nova
>Newspace is Amundsen
At last I truly see
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:10:45 UTC No. 16444002
>>16443954
so you have no counter argument
lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:10:53 UTC No. 16444003
>>16443964
>noo you can't possibly build a Mars colony it would take hundreds of launches
>Musk: thousands
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:11:13 UTC No. 16444005
>>16443941
>>16443993
Source?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:12:29 UTC No. 16444007
>>16443990
blease don't cancel Dragonfly even if it costs 3 billion
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:12:48 UTC No. 16444008
>>16444000
Dey already do that.
There's a bunch of possibilities about what it could be from. Sonic booms while at max heating might have wanged them, could have even been differential heating/cooling during take-off from the water deluge system.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:14:30 UTC No. 16444009
>>16444001
Esoteric Zubrinism is Shackleton lmao, it goes all kinds of fucked up but somehow pulls through in the end
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:14:40 UTC No. 16444010
The Moon and Mars should be designated as a south pole of sorts. Nobody should be able to own it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:15:10 UTC No. 16444011
>>16443989
for a initial base probably yes (if it was easy to get), but for a self sufficient city, kind of depends how easy the materials are to get and process relatively speaking
how abundnat are fissile materials on mars compared to the stuff that can be fashioned into solar panels?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:15:41 UTC No. 16444012
image they had a few cubic centimeters of Venus atmosphere. How would you even go about analysing such a miniscule amount .
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:16:11 UTC No. 16444014
>>16444008
they do it a lot more on raptor 3 than raptor 2, so much so that they can remove some shielding
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:16:25 UTC No. 16444015
>>16444011
if they're anything like naval reactor designs, will only need to refuel once every 30 years though
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:17:04 UTC No. 16444016
>>16444005
some rando from SpaceX leaking shit on twitter
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:17:11 UTC No. 16444017
>>16444010
no, they should be colonized and that requires ownership
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:17:35 UTC No. 16444019
>>16444017
they could simply rent it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:19:57 UTC No. 16444020
>>16444001
No Amundsen did meme expeditions that were of no practical use other than planting a flag. His traversal of the northwest passage in Fram - a floating meme - is particularly of this kind.
Newspace has no historical analogue.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:20:22 UTC No. 16444021
>>16444015
that doesn't matter
what matters is the effort locally for a given amount of power, solar panels would require batteries or energy storage of some sort but might be simpler ultimately
nuclear requires finding uranium or whatever, enriching it and building nuclear plants in the case where you want a fully self-sufficient colony
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:20:29 UTC No. 16444022
>>16444014
I was more of the opinion that the heat shielding in the engine bay they were talking about was there to protect the aerospace spaghetti, and by removing the spaghetti they could minimize the shielding.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:21:23 UTC No. 16444024
>>16444019
rent from whom (owns it)?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:21:53 UTC No. 16444025
>>16444024
presumably the government
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:23:26 UTC No. 16444026
>>16444024
The United Nations
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:23:32 UTC No. 16444027
>>16444021
I meant do both. Getting a shipment of a few tons of processed fuel every couple of decades will absolutely allow you to jumpstart that solar industry. Imagine how much you can accomplish in 60 years
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:24:24 UTC No. 16444029
>>16444025
>>16444026
so somebody does own it then?
what you are suggesting sounds like communism to me
communism doesn't work
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:25:09 UTC No. 16444031
>>16444026
hawk tuah
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:25:25 UTC No. 16444032
>>16444027
yeah true, as long as they can get nuclear then they should probably do it
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:28:33 UTC No. 16444036
What's the lowest possible windspeed on the surface of the Earth?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:29:34 UTC No. 16444037
>Cancel the SLS. Cancel Orion. Cancel Gateway. Cancel the launch tower. Cancel the engines.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:31:26 UTC No. 16444040
>>16444036
50/50, when it’s either blowing or not blowing
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:34:27 UTC No. 16444042
>>16444037
That'd be great
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:36:24 UTC No. 16444043
>>16443228
Okay tangent but this reminds me of how Universal and Disney ride ops differ from shit parks like Six Flags. At Universal and Disney during ride dispatch they do it fast and efficient, the ride ops just stand in a yellow painted square inches from the ride vehicle entering and exiting, saving time in each dispatch and maximizing throughput, however Six Flags requires their ride ops to lock themselves behind gates, and are so overly autistic about safety that their dispatch times are 50% higher than Universal or Disney.
Basically, if Universal and Disney trust their teenage ride ops to stay inside the yellow square and it improves efficiency, why go so autistic about safety. Musk was in the right here.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:41:52 UTC No. 16444045
>>16443988
Still not hiring you.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:45:34 UTC No. 16444048
>>16444046
1 of 1000 (produced this year)
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:50:26 UTC No. 16444050
https://spacenews.com/foust-forward
Foust, what are you doing...
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:50:28 UTC No. 16444051
>>16444046
I like to imagine that Shotwell just took the rest of the day off after posting her reply to his "partially assembled" comment.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:52:29 UTC No. 16444054
>>16444046
it looks fake
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:53:12 UTC No. 16444057
>>16444016
>rando from Spacex leaking
Doesn't it come from the VP of starlink engineering?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:54:08 UTC No. 16444058
SpaceX employee got ate by shark off Boca Chica Beach
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/l
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:54:30 UTC No. 16444059
>>16444046
Reminder that for a reusable vehicle to make any economical sense, it has to be reused at least ten tim- ugh, I MEAN 100 TIMES.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:57:17 UTC No. 16444062
>>16444050
>somehow, a merlin vacuum failing is the orange man's fault
tiresome
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:59:15 UTC No. 16444063
>>16444058
based (20161) 1996 TR66 poster
also, total shark death. they have now joined forces with the beetles and the dolphins.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:59:54 UTC No. 16444064
>>16444054
I imagine that's what Bruno keeps saying.
I know a lot of the shit comes down to new materials processes enabling it but fuck it makes every competing engine look like a science fair project.
>>16444059
People still say this even though raptors only (currently) cost 1 million a pop, despite SLS's engines costing what.. 150 million each?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:03:08 UTC No. 16444067
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:03:39 UTC No. 16444068
>>16444064
It's well under 1 million now, remember the target for raptor 3 was 200000$ per engine.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:08:11 UTC No. 16444072
>>16442895
blow out the air in your lungs and walk back to shore on the bottom
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:10:18 UTC No. 16444075
>>16444046
I still can't comprehend how simple it looks.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:17:43 UTC No. 16444084
>>16444057
yes
https://x.com/michaelnicollsx/statu
>Looks like a painting
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:20:27 UTC No. 16444087
>>16444058
>>16444063
Based sharks, getting sweet revenge from the unwarranted, unannounced attacks from orbit with large stainless steel structures that explode upon impact. Not to mention, we eat their fins, and slaughter them to take their livers to make literal hemorrhoid cream. This is a slap in the face insult.
There is a reason why they have survived continuously for 400 hundred million years, while countless lesser species emerged and perished. Its a perfect design, fully optimized.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:23:56 UTC No. 16444089
>>16444087
Shark fins typed this post.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:37:42 UTC No. 16444097
>>16444089
Your species has a very small window of opportunity to make life multi-planetary, and thus, survive long term. That window is rapidly closing, and you ALL will perish. Your feeble "light" will soon be extinguished.
And guess what? We sharks will still be here, thriving as top predator.
Lets make a deal, we will stop killing SpaceX employees, IF, and only IF, you transport self sustaining shark populations to the oceans of Europa, and Enceladus. Make us multi-planetary, as we deserve, and we forgive you.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:38:39 UTC No. 16444100
>>16443981
this movie takes place in the same world as Alien for me
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:39:07 UTC No. 16444101
>>16444087
Sharks are punk ass bitches who swim away at top speed when a REAL apex predator turns up. And they don't have dicks just gay little 'claspers' lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:39:44 UTC No. 16444103
>>16444050
>Musk has not been silent on X in general, with his posts currently dominated by political topics. When he has mentioned SpaceX in recent weeks, it has often been to complain about “lawfare” by the FAA (for delaying the license for the next Starship launch and fining SpaceX for other license violations) and the FCC (for revoking rural broadband subsidies for Starlink.) There’s been far less on other SpaceX activities, including the recent upper-stage anomaly.
why is lawfare in quotes? what a faggot
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:40:23 UTC No. 16444104
>>16444090
I simply do not understand the concept of “beamed power” and probably never will. Seems so hand-wavey to me
>yeah bro I’ll generate the power over here and… uhhh… just get a downlink, bro, I’ll send you 30 kWh through the sky bro
Like what? It’s done through microwaves? So it’s like wifi, but power??
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:41:25 UTC No. 16444106
>>16444101
Good luck surfacing for "air" on Enceladus and Europa, faggot.
You will NOT survive, didn't you see Star Trek IV?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:42:27 UTC No. 16444107
>>16444104
>So it’s like wifi, but power??
Yeah
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:42:49 UTC No. 16444108
>>16444087
total shark death
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:46:58 UTC No. 16444113
>>16444106
Humans love our playful yet powerful ass, they're taking us with them to space. You cartilaginous fags? You die with the Earth lol
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:49:06 UTC No. 16444115
>>16444063
sharks are bro-tier
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:49:27 UTC No. 16444117
>>16444103
He's just trying to downplay it as if to argue its not happening.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:49:34 UTC No. 16444118
>>16444113
We must uplift as many animals as possible.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:50:35 UTC No. 16444120
>>16444103
>>16444050
The only reason to write this shit is because you're getting paid. Nobody would write this for fun/informative purposes, and nobody who's already following spaceflight news cares to read a basic blog on the topic. This is JUST to get paid, which I can't fault him for.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:54:26 UTC No. 16444123
>>16444115
this. people who hate sharks have just been fed lies by hollywood. the number of people who are killed by sharks every year is miniscule so theres really no reason to be afraid to go in the water in an area known to have sharks.
even when a shark does (accidentally) bite a human it usually spits it out because human's dont taste good.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:54:54 UTC No. 16444124
>>16444118
I'm listening to Infinity's Shore in parts now, Christ this author sure likes to reiterate what's happened to remind the reader of context, repeatedly.
>anon said, using his keyboard to convey electronic signals to his computing device. The device sent those signals through the endless sprawling expanse of cyberspace, traveling fast as photons, to land squarely on the smartphone screen of anon, still drinking his morning coffee as he sat in his favorite chair reading this message
No wonder this is a multi-book series
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:56:03 UTC No. 16444126
>>16444113
You are so stupid, you intentionally beach yourselves in either suicide attempts, or a lack of situational awareness. Both of these are equally bad for your survival prognosis. You don't see sharks doing this, what are you, deluded trannies who mass suicide? Humans invented dynamite for you.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:56:19 UTC No. 16444127
in suborbital spaceflight news, USC RPL launched their second successful spaceshot. this being only the third or fourth (depending on how you count) successful amateur rocket to reach space and likely the highest to date.
https://x.com/USCRPL/status/1848594
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:57:42 UTC No. 16444129
>>16444126
They're trying to colonize the land, obviously.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:57:52 UTC No. 16444130
>>16444124
>Infinity's Shore
Haven't read it. I get my uplift fiction from eclipse phase which is only as autistic as the players want.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:59:39 UTC No. 16444132
>>16444051
she spent the rest of the day victory shlicking
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:02:37 UTC No. 16444133
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:02:52 UTC No. 16444134
>>16444126
Settle down selachimorphoid
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:04:12 UTC No. 16444136
>>16444064
>SLS's engines costing what.. 150 million each?
more like $450m at this point. Each.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:06:21 UTC No. 16444138
>>16444134
Its not about the brain, its about the BOD.
Lets see (You) persist for 400 million years, through one catastrophe after another. I'll be here.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:07:06 UTC No. 16444139
>>16444104
how do you think signals are wirelessly transferred? They're EM waves that induce a current in a conductive antenna, which propagates to the electronics. A beamed power device literally just scales up the power of the emitter and receiver until the "signal" is capable of running machinery on its own.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:09:40 UTC No. 16444141
Forget about heatshields, use sharks instead!
https://youtu.be/qoEZaBiCh9I?si=zoP
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:09:43 UTC No. 16444142
>https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1848
Multi-Gigabit speed for Starlink with V2 antennas
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:12:31 UTC No. 16444148
>>16444130
Book 5 in a 6-part story, 7 if you count the compendium book that's just about the setting/ayy races.
>2 billion year old multi-species civilization spanning 5 galaxies
>each species is uplifted by an older Patron species from pre sapient animal life, in turns uplifts other species much later
>unbroken chain stretching back 2bn+ years, tales say more galaxies were linked by culture in deep past
>galactic culture tasked with managing trillions of worlds, letting some go fallow to produce new sapient life ripe for uplift, granting million year leases for other worlds to be used by galactic races
>uplift chain started by a Progenitor race, now long-gone and the source of many myths, beliefs
>wild pre-sapient species do NOT uplift themselves, humans appear to be exception, galactic culture does not like this one bit
>inb4 "but then who uplifted the Progenitors?"
Nobody seems to be asking that so far, so idk
>>16444138
Turtles did that too, you don't see them bragging about it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:14:13 UTC No. 16444153
>>16444138
>mammals take to the sea 50 million years ago
>predate and clown on cold blood bozos who've been there 8 times longer
We know those tiny brains of yours don't work too well but make an effort. The bipeds are laughing at you!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:14:24 UTC No. 16444154
/sfg/ - Sharks and Fins General
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:25:07 UTC No. 16444158
>>16443063
I can't wait to observe the observations
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:27:35 UTC No. 16444161
>>16444157
>stare long enough into the void, sometimes it will stare back into you
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:27:52 UTC No. 16444162
>>16444153
I'll bet those suits are tethered to your blowhole, aren't they faggot?
Sharks will enjoy the oceans of Europa, and multiply until the food supply is in balance, without wearing any gear. We also don't need light to see, and can tolerate a wide range of water temperatures. Your stupid tech would mean you hover at the surface, just under the ice shell, like you're afraid of something. Meanwhile, Ill be diving to 100 km depths, to harvest those sweet, sweet chemosynthetic buffet.
Stay in the shallows, mammal. The voluminous depths, where the good stuff is, will be exclusively ours.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:28:05 UTC No. 16444163
>>16444157
Wow, they're making science-fiction a reality!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:31:53 UTC No. 16444165
>https://x.com/headi420/status/1848
>168k likes
It's unironically over if Trump loses, isn't it?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:34:40 UTC No. 16444167
>>16444165
These aren't real people, they are bots. Along with you
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:35:05 UTC No. 16444168
>>16444165
Botted likes + EDS contrarian likes + you’re depression doomerposting a literal who + 45 will win + WAGMI in the end trust the plan, Mars will be OURS
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:35:10 UTC No. 16444169
>>16444162
>Sharks will enjoy the oceans of Europa
There's NO dissolved oxygen there dumb dumb and humans would never take you there anyway because they think you're gross and stupid. They're right about that!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:38:39 UTC No. 16444171
>>16444169
Brain enhanced by © Neuralink.
Enough said. Its all about the body, sharks simply have a better design, you cannot win.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:39:15 UTC No. 16444172
>>16444169
You know the oxygen concentration do ya? You’ve measured it yourself? Or, if not that, then you have perhaps read a paper where someone like NASA has measured it? Care to share?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:43:57 UTC No. 16444179
>>16444169
>>16444172
True, and besides, sharks frequent deep-sea hydrothermal vents, where there is no oxygen present anyway. So, why is this a problem on ocean moons? The swim bladder is for buoyancy control, its not a lung.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:45:48 UTC No. 16444180
>>16444171
>Brain enhanced by © Neuralink.
Humans won't do that because its a waste of time spicing up a pea brain and who wants a smart monster anyway?
>>16444172
You think the O2 concentration there will support your gilled up ass? LOL
Go away before I eat your liver
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:47:07 UTC No. 16444182
>>16444180
>Humans won't do that because its a waste of time spicing up a pea brain and who wants a smart monster anyway?
we might do it once like how we trained one gorilla sign language then realized it was a waste of time
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:50:16 UTC No. 16444186
>>16444180
>Humans won't do that because its a waste of time spicing up a pea brain and who wants a smart monster anyway
This is specifically the plot of Deep Blue Sea, where they were engineering sharks to have bigger brains in order to extract anti-alzheimer's juice from them, only it made them super smart and they start eating the station crew.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:52:12 UTC No. 16444187
>>16444179
Sharks don't have swim bladders
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:52:15 UTC No. 16444188
>>16444180
>>16444182
© Neuralink enhanced sharks would act as a client-server model. Like a mainframe with dumb terminals of olden days, the real brains and mission directives are NOT hosted within the shark, only the sensors and basic autonomy like sensing and finding food. Future sharks will do whatever we want them to do, with great capability on all-ocean worlds.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:52:54 UTC No. 16444189
>>16444179
>sharks frequent deep-sea hydrothermal vents, where there is no oxygen present anyway
Holding your breath for a while isn't the same as holding it forever clasperboy
>>16444182
Human only did that because they see themselves in apes, similar to why they're fascinated by cetaceans
Fish? Who cares?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:53:24 UTC No. 16444191
>>16443187
>>16443188
The lesson to be learned from Elon is that you can't beat everyone else by doing the same thing as everyone else, but if you're doing things totally differently than the rest of the world you have to embrace failure as an essential aspect of experimentation.
If his decisions were always right then he would be too conservative to accomplish anything.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:53:34 UTC No. 16444192
>>16444020
Scott died trying to do the same meme expedition.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:56:41 UTC No. 16444194
>>16444188
OK if being disposable bio-servitors appeals to you sharky go for it. We'll be remotely controlling you with our primate pals lol
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:58:55 UTC No. 16444197
>>16444194
The singularity will kill off mammals, because they are weak bodied and fragile.
Sharks and birds will be engineered to become a part of the machine.
Its like you don't have any foresight. (or foreskin)
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:00:47 UTC No. 16444198
>>16444197
>The singularity
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:03:36 UTC No. 16444199
>>16444195
Does Viasat have ANY future?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:04:07 UTC No. 16444200
>>16444195
i-is that a batman mask that elon has on his ceiling??
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:05:43 UTC No. 16444202
>>16444199
Not really lmao.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:06:48 UTC No. 16444203
>>16444200
it looks like Halloween decorations 2bdesu
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:09:11 UTC No. 16444206
>>16444165
>Question: why is team Red Better than team blue for space?
>Answer: random literal who Twitter nonsense
I don't think this election is very important for space. Trump doesn't know how to pass legislation and Kamala will just keep the legislation the same
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:09:28 UTC No. 16444208
>>16444195
why do they wear that shit when
a) it isnt the middle ages
b) they are in an airplane, not in the middle of sand dunes in the sun
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:10:24 UTC No. 16444212
>>16444206
1. wrong
2. Trump hiring Elon to unfuck regulation is going to make rapid spaceflight economically viable
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:11:53 UTC No. 16444215
>>16444206
>Kamala will just keep the legislation the same
Which is bad, you shouldn't want this.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:12:04 UTC No. 16444216
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:13:19 UTC No. 16444219
>>16444206
its extremely different, you are either retarded or willfully ignorant
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:14:14 UTC No. 16444221
>>16444218
Berger >>> Foust
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:14:35 UTC No. 16444224
>>16444212
>Trump hiring Elon to unfuck regulation
Sauce on this?
and let's imagine FAA stays slow. It just slows development test flights. Once you have a working ship, you can keep reusing the same liscense
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:15:22 UTC No. 16444226
>>16444223
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/statu
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:16:23 UTC No. 16444228
>>16444224
have you been purposefully avoiding any and all information regarding this? come the fuck on
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:17:11 UTC No. 16444230
>>16444224
literally just look at Trump and Elon's social media, they're both talking about it
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:17:26 UTC No. 16444231
>>16444228
I've heard the doge memes but I haven't even heard a concept of a plan for how trump will """fix"""" regulation
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:17:52 UTC No. 16444232
>>16444217
we GAAAAANNNN
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:19:17 UTC No. 16444234
>>16444231
OK so you're just fucking retarded then. He cut an enormous amount of regulations in term one and has promised to continue those policies in term two.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:20:37 UTC No. 16444235
>>16444218
He's right though
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:22:27 UTC No. 16444237
>>16444234
>trump cut an enourmous amount of regulations
Like what?
Has trump or Elon quoted any specific regulation they would repeal in 2025?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:25:24 UTC No. 16444239
>>16444237
Abolish the FBI, CIA, radically reform the FAA and FCC, obliterate the department of education, destroy the entire IRS, lay military siege to the Federal Reserve until they wave the white flag and agree that all US debt is absolved.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:25:53 UTC No. 16444240
>>16444237
I refuse to believe you are this incapable of searching the web.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/doc
>what specific regulations
thinking too small, the goal is to cut them in bulk
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:25:57 UTC No. 16444241
>>16444237
In a recent town hall, elon has said entire government agencies will be shuttered and govt workers given 2 year severence time to find a new job. goodbye FAA
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:26:22 UTC No. 16444242
>>16444217
I thought you were supposed to skip 13 in this industry
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:26:52 UTC No. 16444243
>>16444188
There's an animorphs book with this plot, yeerks using neuralinks to make sharks smart enough to be host bodies to use on planet Leera, which is inhabited by psychic frog people living in oceanic cities
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:26:58 UTC No. 16444244
>>16444242
not if you want to go to the moon
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:27:23 UTC No. 16444245
>>16444237
the picture you posted clearly shows the speed of new regulation halting basically, which is a very big change from the trend previously
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:27:59 UTC No. 16444246
>>16444244
Anon I…
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:28:12 UTC No. 16444247
>>16443606
As a non American your opinions are off topic in a spaceflight thread.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:28:52 UTC No. 16444248
>>16444226
new rounder vents
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:31:14 UTC No. 16444249
>>16444197
mammals are much less fragile than birds or reptiles. We're more robust against infection and environmental changes than any cold blooded creature, and unlike birds we have solid bones built to stand up to physical combat. Also, not being oviparous is a HUGE advantage in myriad ways.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:33:50 UTC No. 16444252
>>16444240
It would be nice to have like, one example
Especially FAA/space related
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:34:12 UTC No. 16444254
>>16444127
>even amateurs can do what blue origin does
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:38:27 UTC No. 16444258
>>16443187
granite fibers is the big meme currently
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:38:37 UTC No. 16444259
>>16443764
>be multicellular life that can't exist without genociding bacteria on a scale that makes the worst atrocities of human history look like a joke
>stay away from Mars to avoid stepping on a hypothetical bacterium
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:38:41 UTC No. 16444260
>>16444252
Untethering the FAA from regulation of space launches for one, which is a /sfg/ proposal.
/sfg/ will shape national spaceflight policy moving forwards.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:48:29 UTC No. 16444264
>>16444192
for some reason I thought you were talking about scott manley and thought he'd died trying to fly his plane to the south pole
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:49:32 UTC No. 16444265
>>16444104
I get beamed power from a giant fusion reactor when it's sunny.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:52:10 UTC No. 16444266
>>16444258
I'm not saying there's no innovation, I'm saying a business that isn't in the concrete industry likely won't innovate. When you're in the aerospace industry and there's one other government backed company that has a monopoly (former duopoly) then you'll find cost savings left and right. Rocketry was literally forty years behind the rest of technology and no one involved was incentivized to make anything better or cheaper. Concrete just isn't the same economic environment
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:57:09 UTC No. 16444269
>>16444208
larping as an ay-rab is central to spaceflight
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 15:57:45 UTC No. 16444272
>>16444258
Thought it was fiberglass, or does granite outperform?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:01:58 UTC No. 16444274
>>16444011
There's uranium on Mars for sure.
Getting at it safely is going to be difficult.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:02:39 UTC No. 16444275
I just blew orange bile out my ass
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:03:04 UTC No. 16444277
>>16443392
I don't understand this reusable astronauts meme
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:04:37 UTC No. 16444279
>>16444269
This garb was invented by the White man of the pontic steppe and the transcaucasus
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:04:42 UTC No. 16444280
>>16444275
Did it smell like fish?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:08:31 UTC No. 16444282
>>16444279
Personally I descend from the ciscaucasus
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:08:58 UTC No. 16444283
>>16444275
t. Long March 2C
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:24:19 UTC No. 16444293
>>16444275
margarine bro...
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:28:34 UTC No. 16444298
>>16444258
basalt
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:30:08 UTC No. 16444301
>>16444218
I don't see anything wrong with that article, politics has clearly rotted his brain. I'm concerned about his meltdown when trump loses and it having consequences to spacex.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:31:27 UTC No. 16444303
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/
>Long March 2F Y19 with Shenzhou-19 stop has been rolled out to the launch pad earlier today. Launch is expected to be on October 29 around 20:00UTC
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:31:29 UTC No. 16444304
>>16443421
you're an idiot, the modern Atlas V is actually a Titan
>>16444272
maybe it's basalt
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:32:30 UTC No. 16444308
yeah, thanks for reminding me
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:51:01 UTC No. 16444322
>>16444311
If every single LM rocket didn’t look exactly the same, this and LM5 would actually stand out. instead, their human launcher looks exactly the same as every other 5T-to-LEO shitstick they spit out
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:56:36 UTC No. 16444334
>>16444316
what's the point of mountains on the moon? it's not like the weather is any different up there
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:02:16 UTC No. 16444342
>>16444334
What’s the point of doing anything, really.
Humans realized they didn’t have to be perpetual hunter-gatherers so now we spend our time in excel spreadsheets, sitting through boring meetings, tallying exoplanets, and categorizing mountains in the solar system. Pattern seeking species with a predisposition to place eachother and the things around us into hierarchies
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:02:21 UTC No. 16444343
>>16444341
Works fine on my machine
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:04:00 UTC No. 16444345
>>16444334
>what's the point of mountains?
To be climbed by Man
>what's the point of mountains on the moon?
To be climbed by Man on the moon.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:04:14 UTC No. 16444347
>>16444344
no need for a v2 hsr. just boat recover the rings like they do with fairings now
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:04:37 UTC No. 16444348
>>16444343
Post from a new IP then get back to me
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:05:32 UTC No. 16444351
>>16444344
>4 manitees, 9 turtles, and 2 baby seals corpses were found crushed underneath the hot stage ring
ARREST FELON HUSK NOW
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:05:56 UTC No. 16444352
>>16444345
But climbing a moon mountain is not the same feat as climbing an earth mountain, because the top is not a harder state of being than the base like mountains on earth. Plus when you always approach the moon from above a peak is little different from a valley.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:06:00 UTC No. 16444353
>>16444348
lmao skill issue
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:06:16 UTC No. 16444354
>>16444311
>>16444315
Its funny looking how four metal sticks can hold that rocket
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:07:28 UTC No. 16444355
>>16444301
TDS has rotted your brain
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:08:26 UTC No. 16444356
>>16444353
Retard
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:13:45 UTC No. 16444361
>>16444316
how do you even measure a height datum for the moon
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:14:46 UTC No. 16444363
>>16444348
hmmmm I simply do not change my IP
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:15:16 UTC No. 16444364
>>16444362
imagine the smell
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:17:11 UTC No. 16444366
>>16444362
gateway is so fucking stupid
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:20:20 UTC No. 16444367
>>16444362
Does it still have no windows?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:21:03 UTC No. 16444368
>>16444362
what a nigthmare
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:21:48 UTC No. 16444369
>>16444367
all visiting vehicles have windows, you don't want to put windows in your space bedroom
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:22:00 UTC No. 16444370
>>16444224
I don't have a source at hand, but I have heard both of them talk about this in the last month.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:23:58 UTC No. 16444372
>>16444369
>you don't want to put windows in your space bedroom
Yes I do
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:25:14 UTC No. 16444373
>>16444365
cute. I didn't know she had merch
>>16444367
it's overweight as is, they can't afford to add glass
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:26:52 UTC No. 16444375
>>16444352
You wouldn't get it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:31:56 UTC No. 16444382
>>16444380
It’s entirely within my budget I just don’t even want it lol
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:32:35 UTC No. 16444383
>>16444380
>0 bids
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:35:35 UTC No. 16444385
>>16444354
Launch mounts are a lot smaller that you'd expect. Here's what the Delta II was sitting on at the pad
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:36:26 UTC No. 16444386
>>16444239
dangerously, unfathomably based
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:40:04 UTC No. 16444389
>>16444362
the absolute fucking state of oldspace grift
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:41:14 UTC No. 16444390
>>16444380
>geff
not fooling me, jeffrey
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:47:53 UTC No. 16444395
>family notices me often watching rocket launches on TV
>get asked why am I not working on rockets
I laughed it off, but now I'm seriously thinking about my life choices. Did I fuck up? I have never had any ambitions in my life.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:50:11 UTC No. 16444397
>>16444395
>Did I fuck up?
Well, what do you do instead?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:52:00 UTC No. 16444400
>>16444395
>Did I fuck up?
depends on what you actually do but given that you live with your family I suspect no much so yes.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:52:04 UTC No. 16444401
>>16444397
Well, I'm not a neet. I work as an engineer, but on sea.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:52:54 UTC No. 16444402
booster 13 rollin'
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:54:02 UTC No. 16444403
>>16444395
I like playing video games but I wouldn't want to work as a video game dev
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:54:19 UTC No. 16444404
>>16444395
>2018
>getting engineering degree with the goal of working at SpaceX
>have a psychotic break more than halfway through and drop out
I just play video games and pretend reality doesn't exist. The recent lawfare almost made me do something bad. I would do what ever I can to advance spaceflight
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:55:23 UTC No. 16444406
>>16444385
Delta II was laughably tiny
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:55:27 UTC No. 16444407
>>16444404
To make it even worse, I'm not American. If I worked in the field, my best option would be RFA, Thales or Ariane.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:56:15 UTC No. 16444408
>>16444157
Wasting time shidding and farting in LEO
Why?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:56:35 UTC No. 16444409
>>16444406
Is that Pathfinder, Spirit/Opportunity, or one of the two still-living rovers?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:56:48 UTC No. 16444410
>>16444398
This picture smells of farts, decay, and B.O. (not Blue Origin)
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:56:52 UTC No. 16444411
>>16444401
Well I wouldn't say your life has been wasted in any sense, in fact it sounds more interesting than the typical number cruncher or screw tightener out there.
If you want to get into space science it's not exactly too late, you already have credentials and work experience, and at any rate there is always the possibility of being an enthusiast, let me give you an example:
>blogger com/profile/08711764306071043709
>Former stone age archaeologist (PhD)
In the end it is a matter of luck, effort and risk acceptance.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:57:04 UTC No. 16444412
>>16444398
>*not exactly to scale
you cant fool me pajeet, that NGLV is pure LARP
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:57:08 UTC No. 16444413
>>16444409
Pathfinder
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:57:38 UTC No. 16444414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9K
Sars, please tell what you think of india space program?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:58:21 UTC No. 16444416
>>16444406
looks alright to me
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:58:28 UTC No. 16444417
>>16444199
Needs to merge with OneWeb, Kuiper, and SirusXm.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:58:59 UTC No. 16444418
>>16444414
ISRO is based, there's an actual chance they overtake Russia as #3 within the next few years
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 17:59:06 UTC No. 16444419
>>16444415
Why does SX want to pursue horizontal transport eventually?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:00:13 UTC No. 16444420
>>16444418
With how things are going thats not very impressive.
>no mention of esa
lel
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:00:53 UTC No. 16444421
>>16444362
a fucking closet
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:01:19 UTC No. 16444422
>>16444420
JAXA is better than ESA
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:02:13 UTC No. 16444423
>>16444420
E-what now? lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:03:20 UTC No. 16444426
>>16444419
My guess is more stable and slightly faster transport with tunnels connecting the launch site to the build site being a potential option.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:03:39 UTC No. 16444428
>>16444413
I thought it looked familiar, sweet
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:04:28 UTC No. 16444429
>>16444422
lmao I thought you were kidding, how does japan launch more than all of europe?
The best part is that not only is europe behind japan, it's behind fucking iran.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:04:41 UTC No. 16444430
>>16444426
tunnels? On the beach?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:06:03 UTC No. 16444431
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:09:26 UTC No. 16444433
>road is blocked
what is going on?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:10:35 UTC No. 16444434
>>16444433
Flight 6, of course
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:11:06 UTC No. 16444436
>>16444430
Under it to avoid needing to get a road closure permit everytime a booster needs to go to the pad. Not really an issue now but it will be in the future.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:12:10 UTC No. 16444438
>>16444434
the booster transport appears to be blocked
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:13:43 UTC No. 16444441
I need a big funny space happening this week. New Glenn tipping over in the VAB or something
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:14:27 UTC No. 16444442
>>16444404
maybe neuralink solves it, would be pretty nice
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:14:57 UTC No. 16444443
>>16444429
Europe has been down for the count for the last couple of years, they retired Ariane 5 before Ariane 6 was ready, the Vega series are also being upgraded and are having teething issues with the new hardware and/or are giant pieces of shit, and the Soyuz with an ESA badge on it deal fell through with the unprovoked imperialist war in Ukraine
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:15:24 UTC No. 16444444
>>16444443
Pitiful, europe is
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:15:27 UTC No. 16444445
checkem
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:15:58 UTC No. 16444448
>>16444444
WOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>16444445
lol fail
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:15:58 UTC No. 16444449
If Elon give 1 million to random voters every day until election, how much will this cost SpaceX?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:16:31 UTC No. 16444450
>>16444444
nice
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:16:36 UTC No. 16444451
>>16444365
i want her to marry me more than anything in the world
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:16:45 UTC No. 16444452
>>16444444
Based
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:16:46 UTC No. 16444453
>>16444449
two weeks
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:16:54 UTC No. 16444454
>>16444443
>unprovoked
should we tell him?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:16:59 UTC No. 16444455
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:17:09 UTC No. 16444456
>>16444419
Barges?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:17:28 UTC No. 16444457
>>16444377
curious to see how damaged it is, it separated at what, 90km up or so?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:17:40 UTC No. 16444458
>>16444444
nice desu ne
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:17:44 UTC No. 16444459
>>16444447
going towards the launch site, so a static fire?
and after that need to just finish the tiles on Ship 31 and they should basically be ready to launch, maybe a short integrated tanking test like they did with the Flight 5 stack
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:17:55 UTC No. 16444460
>>16444449
Elon has 300 billion dollars
there are 300 million americans
so he could give a million $ to every person in america if we wanted.
makes you think
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:20:57 UTC No. 16444464
>>16444404
DM me on the discord, I have some FAA officials names and addresses
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:22:17 UTC No. 16444465
>>16444395
Do you just like rockets and space or do you actually want to work in the industry and advance the field? Those are 2 very different things.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:22:44 UTC No. 16444466
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:22:46 UTC No. 16444467
>>16444444
henlo, based department?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:22:50 UTC No. 16444468
>>16444367
there's supposed to be windows on one of the other modules
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:23:30 UTC No. 16444470
Results over rhetoric
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:24:34 UTC No. 16444471
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:25:02 UTC No. 16444472
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:26:08 UTC No. 16444473
>>16444433
Subscribe to L2 to find out (no really)
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:26:38 UTC No. 16444475
>>16444459
yeah, the road is unblocked now. it seems some of the contractors had no idea they were moving a booster
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:30:33 UTC No. 16444477
>>16444464
Be on the lookout for a Minecraft server event hosted by a character in a Pressure Fed Astronaut shirt
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:31:14 UTC No. 16444479
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:37:47 UTC No. 16444484
>>16444443
>couple of years
Europe has never recovered from the 2008 and to make matters worse, they flooded the continent with shitskins.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:39:12 UTC No. 16444486
>>16444460
anon, your math...
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:40:06 UTC No. 16444487
>>16444465
Probably the latter, since the aerospace industry is quite broad. There are guys doing software, flight simulations, materials engineering, electronics, mechatronics, etc. I toyed with arduino for some time when I was a kid, so now I'm thinking about that route.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:40:40 UTC No. 16444488
>>16444460
that wouldn't work because of inflation or something. if everyone had a million dollars it wouldn't be worth anything
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:42:29 UTC No. 16444491
>>16444177
This is a scene from Sharknado 4 or 5 or something.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:44:50 UTC No. 16444495
they CANT launch in november
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:45:09 UTC No. 16444496
>>16444488
It would only be 1000 anyway otherwise he will run out of money
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:50:17 UTC No. 16444499
>>16444493
>SpaceX attempts to hypnotize FAA to issue launch license, October 2024
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:52:50 UTC No. 16444502
>>16444488
money is fake and gay
they literally just invent it out of thin air everytime someone takes out a loan
this deliberately impoverishes people who save their earnings
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:53:02 UTC No. 16444503
>>16444499
Your regulatory agency is feeling sleepy, very sleeeepy
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:53:08 UTC No. 16444504
>>16444483
Any upgrades on the new ship and booster?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:53:30 UTC No. 16444506
>>16444501
correct
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:54:39 UTC No. 16444510
>>16444506
When will the IAU officially recognize Caelus by his rightful name?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:56:55 UTC No. 16444516
>>16444501
Concerning
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:06:09 UTC No. 16444529
>>16444528
Fuck off aitard
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:07:03 UTC No. 16444532
>>16444528
doesn’t need one. Don’t even put a SpaceX logo on the stack. This is the philosophy to cybertruck. “So iconic it doesn’t need badging”
Throw a red NASA worm on HLS but other than that: keep it simple stupid
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:12:17 UTC No. 16444540
>>16444535
nice ad
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:12:19 UTC No. 16444542
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:12:27 UTC No. 16444543
it'll be interesting seeing how photographers start preferring to present starship... do they present it as a black starship on top of a silver superheavy? Or a full silver stack? Or another angle showing parts of both sides? It's not like the shuttle in that there's a clear top and bottom. I wonder which orientation is going to stick in the public consciousness... I'm betting just the full steel stack.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:12:45 UTC No. 16444545
>>16444535
Shuttle abort modes were fucking psychotic.
Abort to orbit was cool though
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:15:12 UTC No. 16444548
>>16444543
Big black cohete
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:16:23 UTC No. 16444552
>>16444543
I'm sure they will continue to blindly use Starship Mk1 to make it look bad
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:17:46 UTC No. 16444555
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:19:24 UTC No. 16444557
>16444555
kill yourself
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:21:21 UTC No. 16444559
Lifetime ban for this shit, sick of these faggots
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:21:54 UTC No. 16444562
>>16444529
what? scared of a little cockstronaut?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:24:07 UTC No. 16444564
>>16444562
yes, please go away
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:24:20 UTC No. 16444565
>>16444555
premature stage
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:24:48 UTC No. 16444567
>>16444555
Fuck off retard.
He does this every thread.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:26:10 UTC No. 16444568
>>16444428
i need it
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:26:27 UTC No. 16444569
Janny only took down the other threads when I made a new thread about them. Once we stage ai will handle that, so dont worry, just make sure to report that thread so janny handles it as well as the early stage one.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:28:33 UTC No. 16444572
>>16444564
Rape me
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:29:07 UTC No. 16444575
>>16444570
>simply becase I lived in california
>but now I don't, checkmate
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:29:45 UTC No. 16444576
>>16444570
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18488
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:30:47 UTC No. 16444580
>>16444575
yeah the original post was about the exodus of companies from California and 96% of new job creation in 2023-2024 being government jobs
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:33:45 UTC No. 16444583
>>16444576
he's on one tonight
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:34:34 UTC No. 16444584
>>16444576
>>16444570
Is this not implying that all Elon operations will be moved out of CA as he no longer ‘lives’ there?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:36:51 UTC No. 16444587
>>16444559
Fyi its one person. He does it every thread at page 8 so far. I have a game theory that this is the same anon that was complaining about image limit stages during IFT-5 because everyone was btfoing him for thinking they were illegitimate. So now hes posting page 8 stages because hes still that butthurt about it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:41:03 UTC No. 16444592
>>16444570
>>16444576
He's a living proof of the great man theory.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:43:51 UTC No. 16444594
>>16444348
I prefer not to
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:44:52 UTC No. 16444596
>>16444361
Laser?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:45:54 UTC No. 16444597
>>16444362
>"I'm helping!"
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:46:11 UTC No. 16444598
>>16444592
Repent sinners
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:47:36 UTC No. 16444600
>>16444464
>(you)
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:47:55 UTC No. 16444602
>>16444584
maybe, maybe not
he has started to move some of them a while ago
recently SpaceX HQ got moved into starbase, but SpaceX still has the Hawthorne factory, Tesla has multiple factories, design centers and a "engineering HQ", X moved its HQ to Texas and away from the original Twitter building but still has some engineering in other places, xAI just had a hackaton in California in the building where OpenAI got started (which Musk apparently still owns)
I think Musk would love to move everything away from California, the problem is that a lot of engineers live there and a bunch of them are probably not willing to move
so this has to be done gradually and may not be possible to do alltogether
and I mean maybe California gets turned around at some point and becomes less insane
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:55:45 UTC No. 16444607
>>16443529
>catastrophic nozzle detach.
I mean... it could have been worse.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:56:56 UTC No. 16444610
>>16444608
>michelle
opinion discarded
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:57:04 UTC No. 16444611
>>16444607
The vehicle didn't catastrophically disintegrate so that's something I guess
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:57:24 UTC No. 16444612
>>16444607
Worse or better?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 19:59:44 UTC No. 16444616
>>16444563
soooo CUTE!!!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:00:12 UTC No. 16444617
>>16444602
It would probably just be easier to create new factories in Texas, granted it would probably take longer, but trying to move the employees is probably off the table. Elon presumably knows that the Hawthorne employees can and would just go work elsewhere if they didn't want to move, and they'd have a perfect explanation: "I didn't want to work for such an immoral employer," said the engineer to the recruiter from BAE.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:02:38 UTC No. 16444618
>>16444602
He won't have to once Falcon 9 is obsoleted by Starship, it can just wind down. Hawthorne might still be used for MC beyond that though.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:04:52 UTC No. 16444619
>>16444051
Brutal
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:08:22 UTC No. 16444622
>>16444208
It's stylish (in their social sphere) and to be quite honest it's probably pretty comfy
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:08:46 UTC No. 16444623
>>16444226
>super heavy is trying to steer itself with gridfins on the transport stand
cute
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:11:17 UTC No. 16444624
>>16444623
same vibes
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:13:07 UTC No. 16444625
>>16444624
blue tongue flying bastard
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:14:22 UTC No. 16444629
>>16444258
>>16444272
>>16444304
>>16444298
basalt fiber rebar has good tensile strength but doesn't stretch for shit. It has it's place but steel rebar isn't going anywhere.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:15:08 UTC No. 16444631
>>16444377
>>16444457
All they need to do is hose off the salt and they can reuse it again.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:16:39 UTC No. 16444634
>>16444221
You clearly did not read his book. The whole final section is just Berger ranting about Elon's X posts
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:18:08 UTC No. 16444636
>>16444543
>It's not like the shuttle in that there's a clear top and bottom.
Shuttle legacy means that normalfags intuitively understand that black side = bottom.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:19:47 UTC No. 16444637
Love how all the /biz/bros think they're making sound investments when the efficient market hypothesis proves they're literal gamblers
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:19:57 UTC No. 16444638
>>16444611
>>16444612
Had astronauts been on top, they wouldn't have died. As far as SRB failures go it was on the mild side of things.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:20:10 UTC No. 16444639
>>16444637
????????????
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:20:50 UTC No. 16444643
>>16444637
Wrong board bud. Youre looking for /smg/ on >>>/bant/
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:21:15 UTC No. 16444644
>>16444611
perfect precision
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:22:01 UTC No. 16444645
>>16444636
the shuttle had a clear orientation that had nothing to do with the tiles
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:23:35 UTC No. 16444647
>>16444543
Reminder that we can observe a similar phenomenon in the photography of the mountain Drei Zinnen, where photographers choose to only take pictures of one side of the mountain. Picrel.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:24:35 UTC No. 16444649
>>16444642
Both. It will look like a Dragon 2 but scaled up, a little bit of that nuTesla character thrown around where they can afford it.
I think the HLS we will get will be more “utilitarian” than we are all thinking, though. But as I said, SX will inject their own character into it where they can.
Thankfully the guy who worked at Tesla who used to do lead design (who also did designs for dragon mockup) has since quit. He was a huge fat and ever since he left the art deco has taken off. He was a
>WE NEED TOUCH SCREENS
>WE NEED MINIMALISM
>WE NEED TO LOOK LIKE APPLE
silicon valley faggot, and he would have ruined HLS
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:24:41 UTC No. 16444650
>>16444645
Starship too is a spaceplane.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:25:16 UTC No. 16444653
>>16444642
It will have Tesla-like interior.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:25:21 UTC No. 16444654
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:25:32 UTC No. 16444655
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:26:13 UTC No. 16444656
>>16444652
truthful is a faggot
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:26:15 UTC No. 16444657
>>16444652
not clicking that shit nigga.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:26:18 UTC No. 16444658
>>16444645
Because the Shuttle had a clear orientation AND had black tiles, the public now associate black tiles with that orientation. Black tiles = bottom. There will be no confusion.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:26:21 UTC No. 16444659
>>16444652
Stop linking this twitter troon. Had two flags in pfp before, obviously part of alphabet.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:27:44 UTC No. 16444660
>>16444656
>>16444657
>>16444659
Stop chimping out, it's a post about a rocket engine
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:27:53 UTC No. 16444661
In other news, Flight 6 booster is on the move. Also Im going to stop calling them IFTs now since its likely the next flight is actually orbital.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:28:02 UTC No. 16444662
>>16444652
>gayful
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:28:05 UTC No. 16444663
>>16444643
>>16444639
All I'm saying is if SpaceX goes ever public it will be neither a good nor a bad investment.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:28:08 UTC No. 16444664
>>16444649
This mockup? It doesn't feel apple at all. It's more Y2k or whatever you would call it
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:28:30 UTC No. 16444665
>>16444637
>hypothesis
>proves
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:28:45 UTC No. 16444666
>>16444660
gb2x spittertard
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:29:13 UTC No. 16444667
>>16444665
don't engage the flagrantly off topic faggot
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:29:16 UTC No. 16444668
>>16444660
Fuck off troon not giving you ANY viewer metrics you absolute fucking scum.
>>16444663
It wont go public. Starlink will but SpaceX will not. He made that mistake with Tesla and has repeatedly said he wont make it again.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:29:35 UTC No. 16444669
>>16444656
They're alright when they're not dropping some smoothbrained Canadian take about public transit
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:29:46 UTC No. 16444670
>>16444664
No it was backend engineers who designed your pic. He took this, and made it white.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:30:03 UTC No. 16444671
>>16444617
>It would probably just be easier to create new factories in Texas
yes that is happening, see Giga Austing and starbase for instance
then you have the cluster of stuff in bastrop (Starlink terminal factory, Boring Company HQ and factory, new X building), Neuralink facility between Giga Austin and the Bastrop cluster
Tesla also has a lithium refinery under construction in Corpus Christi and of course SpaceX has the long existing rocket engine testing facility in McGregor, which is in Texas too
with the SpaceX HQ moving to Starbase, it seems like they are trying to move operations gradually into Texas, at least that which can and makes sense
a Dragon or Falcon 9 factory won't likely be built in Texas if I had to guess, they will just keep running the Hawthorne factory until Dragon and Falcon 9 are discontinued some time in the future due to obsolescence
>>16444618
MC?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:31:09 UTC No. 16444672
>>16444669
x is down the hall to the left
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:32:13 UTC No. 16444675
>>16444654
I think they should do leather and woodgrain just to make the contrast with orion that much more insane
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:33:13 UTC No. 16444676
>Space pioneer's valuation may be higher than ULA's
incredible
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:33:52 UTC No. 16444677
>>16444669
>they
Kill yourself immediatly niggertroon
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:34:23 UTC No. 16444679
btw a "funny" anecdote about the Hawthorne factory is that SpaceX wanted to expand the footprint by buying some old real estate on the other side of the road (not sure what it was), but the buildings got zoned as residential
and then the residents in the newly built buildings complain about the noise
I'm too lazy to find a source but I'm pretty sure this was done partly to fuck with Musk (or maybe not directly hate at him but some weird attitude that california bureucrats have towards business people)
this was in like 2018-2020 I think
also, wasn't starship factory originally slated to be built in the port of LA? then they would ship the rockets from there to launch sites using water, but that plan got shuttered after union fuckery
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:34:44 UTC No. 16444680
>You come into possession of ULA after buying it for a buck fifty on a whim
How do you fix it?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:35:52 UTC No. 16444681
>>16444679
I remember some similar story
ITS/Carbon BFR was supposed to be built in a tent in LA's port yes, the tent was there, that's where they toyed with composites structures in 2016-2017.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:36:05 UTC No. 16444682
>>16444680
Declare insolvency and begin liquidation.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:36:25 UTC No. 16444683
>>16444679
Back when Starship was to be carbon fiber, I believe they were going to do it near the Puget Sound. Probably because Boeing is there and therefore the labor experienced with composites is there. I'm guessing.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:39:21 UTC No. 16444685
>>16444637
all market participants do not have perfect information so the efficient market hypothesis does not hold, nor can they necessarily draw the correct conclusions from the same data even if they had it
this is probably especially true when investing into some highly technical company
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:40:34 UTC No. 16444687
>>16444637
Remember that if you're ahead of the normies/new cycle on something, EMH fails
When covid first hit people in china were collapsing, being thrown in wagons, welded in their homes and you could watch it on the internet for weeks but the market had no fucking idea. I was too stupid to know what to buy/short though.
Then a new AI spring hit and its abilities exploded for about a year while the market ignored it, and only one hardware player was dominant and I could've bought nvidia. Well I did, I bought a video card to bake porn on cookie sheets instead of stock like retard.
Makes me really wonder how much the market knows about the satellite mega constellation. Just because something is public knowledge doesn't mean its common knowledge.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:45:30 UTC No. 16444692
>>16444691
To be fair, SX isn’t “working on it.”
They’re perfecting it
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:45:48 UTC No. 16444693
>>16444685
>this is probably especially true when investing into some highly technical company
One doesn't necessarily need to have the technical knowledge to invest into a technical company. I could simply observe a company with technical expertise such as Google invest or not invest into whatever company and judge accordingly.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:46:21 UTC No. 16444694
>>16444685
It's doubly true when the leader of the company in question drives 50% or more of the population into irrational hysterics because they don't like his personal politics. How you you expect the market to be rational about SpaceX when so many of the people who participate in the market are incapable of being rational about Elon Musk? It's farcical.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:48:01 UTC No. 16444696
>>16444691
He was probably talking about the aerospike or something specific and the retard journalism major just randomly threw that quote in the article right after writing a sentence about reusability.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:49:25 UTC No. 16444699
>>16444680
I don't know, copy Falcon 9/Heavy to try to spec into reusability maybe.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:50:00 UTC No. 16444700
>>16444555
trying to get attention online by annoying people is the sign of unsolved mental health problems.
you should visit a psychiatrist for this.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:51:14 UTC No. 16444701
>>16444587
it's probably the same /pol/schizo that went ham in the first place, likely even earlier back when he tried to flood /sfg/ with normalfags.
it truly is a tumor on this website.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:51:47 UTC No. 16444702
>>16444649
space minimalism is based though, shuttle buttonfests are just boomer-tier cope these days
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:51:51 UTC No. 16444703
>>16444691
I like Stoke allot for their full reusability ambition but whos the retard Sull saying SpaceX isnt doing that?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:52:38 UTC No. 16444705
>>16444691
journalists are just retarded
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:54:20 UTC No. 16444707
What will be fashion trends on Mars? Would it be what suit you wear? How tight of a fit you can get your suit to be? Conventional ideas of fashion? Futurism/sleekness? What?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:56:14 UTC No. 16444709
>>16444707
different patches on your overalls
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:56:19 UTC No. 16444710
>>16444707
For numerous reasons, only physically fit people will be allowed on Mars. So you can probably extrapolate Martian fashion from the fashion of sporty people on Earth. Tight fitting synthetic textiles.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:57:50 UTC No. 16444711
>>16444707
they'll have that The Thing fit
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:57:53 UTC No. 16444713
>>16444707
different types of weighted clothing
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:58:06 UTC No. 16444714
>fashion
more like, why isnt there more fantasy stories that take place on mars? almost all of them are scifi.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:58:44 UTC No. 16444715
>>16444714
Because thats homosexual
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:59:00 UTC No. 16444716
>>16444691
SpaceX was thinking about active TPS technology, but ditched it in favor of mechanically simpler tiles. Stoke is actually working on a version of it because it's a central part of their upper stage engine. This was poorly conveyed because journalists are all bad at their jobs.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:00:00 UTC No. 16444717
>>16444716
Cool, thanks for the clarification Shull.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:00:27 UTC No. 16444718
>>16444675
You'd think that the crew and common areas will look a lot like an airplanes lounge/bar area, lightweight and fire-resistant materials throughout whereas the lab and cargo will be typical NASA mass-autism with the cockpit a larger version of dragon
>https://www.humanmars.net/2021/04/
Above is good idea of what I picture in my head.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:01:17 UTC No. 16444719
>>16444707
something that is easy to change into an iva suit or wear the suit over
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:02:26 UTC No. 16444720
>>16444679
>was done partly to fuck with Musk
Please, local officials not knowing how to zone a city is a staple of the US nowadays
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:03:14 UTC No. 16444721
>>16444707
>What will be fashion trends on Mars?
Heinlein teaches us that shirtsleeves environment leads to FULL NUDITY, which is also traditional for Mars
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:03:57 UTC No. 16444722
>>16444716
raptor 3 will be booster's active tps
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:05:00 UTC No. 16444723
>>16444718
I don't know shit about shit but the one thing I do figure is the flight deck for starship has to be on the same level as egress. If not astronauts have to climb ladders which is risky after returning home after atrophy, injury, unconsciousness. Also the spacex ninjas would be going up and down the ladders a lot. Only one person can be on a ladder at a time. Loading and unloading astronauts would be a huge pain.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:05:57 UTC No. 16444724
>>16444702
Fuck you
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:06:38 UTC No. 16444725
>>16444724
not user friendly
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:06:40 UTC No. 16444726
>>16444576
>because I lived in California
No it's because all the talented people need to build shit live in CA
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:06:42 UTC No. 16444727
>>16444721
if we're only sending ubermenschen and sexy nandroids to mars then it should be customary for everyone to be nekkid at all times.
capes are allowed though.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:07:05 UTC No. 16444728
>>16444723
Also if they give the call that the ship is about to blow up and you get to go down the escape slide you may not make it
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:07:40 UTC No. 16444731
>>16444592
>great man theory
We need to make clones to verify this theory
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:08:19 UTC No. 16444732
>>16444725
right which is why i play PC games using a fucking touchscreen and which is why i'm not writing this message with a satisfying clicky mechanical keyboard but rather some obnoxious touchscreen keyboard that constantly misinterprets my input.
fucking idiot, there is a balance to be had between clarity and tactility.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:08:42 UTC No. 16444733
>>16444731
Cloning people is bad because… BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKAY
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:09:03 UTC No. 16444735
>>16444729
>Flight 6 Super Heavy booster moved to the Starbase pad for testing. The move comes just one week after returning the first booster caught following launch
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:09:52 UTC No. 16444736
>>16444731
Cloning only copies somebody's genome, not their mind. Great men are more than their genes.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:10:05 UTC No. 16444737
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:11:04 UTC No. 16444738
>>16444737
they really upped the filter on this image. south texas is bright and orange, not cool and blue.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:11:29 UTC No. 16444739
>>16444727
Capes, battle harnesses and sandals are permissible on Barsoom
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:13:05 UTC No. 16444741
>>16444737
Starbase looking unreasonably stylish.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:14:20 UTC No. 16444742
NSF: dont expect IFT-7 before April
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:16:20 UTC No. 16444743
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status
Here's a thread with lots of starship catch compilations from various people
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:18:19 UTC No. 16444745
>>16444429
>The entire EU has less launch than the Starship program.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:19:26 UTC No. 16444748
>cockpit level access hatch
Likely
>escape slide
They have never been used, it's more likely we'll see SpaceX do a launch abort test like they did with F9
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:22:36 UTC No. 16444751
>>16444742
NSF thought launch was Novemeber. NSF is not a good source
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:23:27 UTC No. 16444752
>>16444739
for ceremonial purposes lorica musculata in shining bronze are also allowed.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:28:24 UTC No. 16444760
>>16444742
Irrelevant source. They've been consistently wrong on SpaceX starship dates and they have no real information
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:28:33 UTC No. 16444761
>>16444751
November launch is only realistic if SpaceX repeats IFT-5. I don't believe that's going to happen as all objectives were achieved .
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:30:50 UTC No. 16444764
>>16444596
but how do you choose zero in order to compare the mountains on the moon vs the mountains on earth
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:31:18 UTC No. 16444765
>>16444761
maybe they will just to be rid of the block 1 ships
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:33:55 UTC No. 16444767
>>16444192
One of the reasons Scott died was that he was hauling mineral samples all the way. Amundsen room no samples and did no science.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:37:30 UTC No. 16444770
>>16444767
>chad flags and footprints winners vs the virgin sample return failures
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:39:51 UTC No. 16444775
>>16444770
In this house Captain Oates was a HERO, END OF STORY!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:46:49 UTC No. 16444784
>>16444775
>Antarctic hero Oates 'fathered child with girl of 12'
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:49:11 UTC No. 16444785
>>16444775
>Gets back from his walk
>"Where the hell are those guys"
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:50:16 UTC No. 16444786
>>16444444
checked. ESA is an embarrassment.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:51:01 UTC No. 16444788
>>16444775
s-sorry anon, ubermensch Shackleton has warped my expectations of getting everyone home alive when it shouldn't ever be possible
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:51:08 UTC No. 16444789
>>16444784
>Hey white man, I bet you were inspired by that story of stoic self sacrifice, you sick fuck
>Well guess what
>You just got DEBUNKED
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:52:05 UTC No. 16444790
>>16444764
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areog
Three short paragraphs, very interesting read.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:54:01 UTC No. 16444793
>>16444784
WTF! I love him now?!?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:56:10 UTC No. 16444795
>>16444775
Kek
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:00:24 UTC No. 16444797
>>16444691
Well, Starship is not fully reusable, they expend the fuel and the oxidizer. These Stoke guys might be onto something.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:00:28 UTC No. 16444798
>>16444660
>>16444656
>>16444669
or revealing that they're like 19 years old with some incredibly smoothbrained takes
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:03:24 UTC No. 16444802
>>16444793
>He died an unmarried virgin at the age of 32, according to biographies. But a biography due out at the end of this month cites evidence that 12 years earlier, as a young army officer, he fathered a daughter in a brief liaison with a girl who was less than 12 years old.
Either he's just like me or he's just like I want to be
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:08:23 UTC No. 16444809
>>16444802
>But a biography due out at the end of this month cites evidence
I bet it doesn't and I don't even know the guy
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:14:23 UTC No. 16444815
>>16444761
They thought IFT-5 was November. Do you have the memory of a goldfish to not know they said that constantly
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:15:28 UTC No. 16444817
>>16444464
FAA officials names and addresses came free with your OSINT. Everybody has FAA officials names and addresses.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:15:56 UTC No. 16444818
>>16444816
"Thus in the period of eleven thousand three hundred and forty years they said that there had arisen no god in human form; nor even before that time or afterwards among the remaining kings who arise in Egypt, did they report that anything of that kind had come to pass. In this time they said that the sun had moved four times from his accustomed place of rising, and where he now sets he had thence twice had his rising, and in the place from whence he now rises he had twice had his setting"
Herodotus, recount of the testimony of the Priests of Ptah, An Account of Egypt
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:18:00 UTC No. 16444819
>>16444112
64 boeing 777's owned by Qatar, commercial air plans maybe ~25k per month, that's 20 million per year, plus 6.4 million in setup cost.
That's one customer.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:22:58 UTC No. 16444825
>>16444731
Musk got smacked around as a kid. He possibly has Acquired Savant Syndrome.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:23:24 UTC No. 16444826
>>16444112
love how the elongated muskrat casually disrupts industries left and right without even trying to. I mean, starlink's originally goal was to bring enough revenue to fund the starship program, now it puts everyone else out of business lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:24:50 UTC No. 16444834
>>16444819
Everyone and their mom is going to outfit with Starlink before Kuiper is even ready to go online.
I’m pretty sure even New Glenn’s recovery ship has starlink terminals right now yeesh
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:28:33 UTC No. 16444841
>>16444816
>>16444818
What the fuck is this plausible??
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:28:50 UTC No. 16444842
>>16444418
Wrong and retarded. ISRO hit a ceiling years ago
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:31:22 UTC No. 16444844
>>16444816
i have no idea what this is
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:32:09 UTC No. 16444846
>>16444841
dunno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x5
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:33:35 UTC No. 16444849
>>16444418
>>16444842
I don't know why this amuses me
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:36:07 UTC No. 16444855
>>16444841
that's the beauty of this place, the line between a a computer simulation made by a schizo and a genius is not easy to discern
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:42:12 UTC No. 16444858
>>16444842
ISRU has never been tried
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:45:22 UTC No. 16444867
>>16444716
Initially it was going to be that the bare steel re-entry surfaces of Starship would sweat methane through millions of tiny holes.
Which is awesome as fuck but introduces a lot of complexity. I don't know the calculations either, whether the weight saving is worth it (probably not).
If they'd gone with it then their active cooling system would have been subject to their issue with the autogenous pressure system generating ice in the methane tank, something they've apparently worked around but not eliminated. So maybe in the future. Maybe even a mix of the two as the porosity of heat tiles means you could just pump methane through them.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:46:47 UTC No. 16444868
When is SpaceX going to get off their ass and install Raptors in Falcon 9?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:47:25 UTC No. 16444871
/v/ is arguing over whether Pluto is a planet.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:48:37 UTC No. 16444872
>>16444871
Tell them it's not but that the Moon is
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:48:44 UTC No. 16444873
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:50:23 UTC No. 16444874
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:50:46 UTC No. 16444876
>>16444871
hit them with this gem: stars are planets of galaxies
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:50:53 UTC No. 16444877
>>16444841
Go look at Africa and Australia on google earth.
Imagine the scenario from the simulation. Then look at the gigantic streaks in the desert on both continents, ones that look like swished mud.
You'll see it pretty quick. They're both very high salinity deserts with ocean sand.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:50:55 UTC No. 16444878
>>16444842
>jeet capsule works
>poos build SARRstation 1 tiangong clone
this alone would put them ahead of ratcosmos at this point
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:51:35 UTC No. 16444879
>>16444876
stars are just gas giants that naturally do fusion
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:52:13 UTC No. 16444880
>>16444816
implications of Antarctica becoming tropical again?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:52:52 UTC No. 16444884
>>16444880
City of the Elder Ones thaws out....
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:53:15 UTC No. 16444885
>>16444880
All the 'MUH ANATARTICA BEFORE MARS' faggots will finally have a point
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:54:14 UTC No. 16444886
>>16444871
>called a planet
>not called a planet
I only care that one day it will be called home.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:55:25 UTC No. 16444890
>>16444886
planet… like kyplanet? someone post kyplanet rn or i will
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:55:52 UTC No. 16444891
>>16444886
ooh that's neat
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:56:42 UTC No. 16444893
>>16444879
Gas giants are just lazy stars
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:58:58 UTC No. 16444896
>>16444886
>no metals
Wow, as useless as Titan but even further away
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:59:37 UTC No. 16444897
>>16444891
Earth pretty much fits between them so it's a pretty absurdly sized station, but I love the imagery. They're tidally locked and their orbit is pretty much circular so this would actually work.
>>16444890
i wish i could kill you through the screen
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:59:53 UTC No. 16444899
Why did everyone fall for the J1407b myth?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezr
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:00:13 UTC No. 16444900
>>16444896
you don't like ice and silicates?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:01:01 UTC No. 16444901
>>16444444
checked and agreed. The ESA is pointless.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:01:26 UTC No. 16444902
>>16444896
solid nitrogen though, ship it all to mars
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:03:59 UTC No. 16444904
>>16444896
>>no atmosphere
>Wow, as useless as the Moon but even further away
Do you see how fucking stupid you sound you god damn cretin
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:08:02 UTC No. 16444906
>>16444904
Luna is a good place to throw rocks at e*rthers from.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:21:56 UTC No. 16444917
HOTSTAGED
>>16444916
>>16444916
>>16444916
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:26:05 UTC No. 16444931
2nd stage has not separated from the vehicle at this time.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:27:30 UTC No. 16444932
>>16444024
I own it.
I'll rent out the moon and Mars but it's $10 million a day.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:28:37 UTC No. 16444934
>>16444931
We're out of images anon it's fine.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:30:30 UTC No. 16444939
This is image limit stage it is legit bake
>>16444931
Please read above.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:31:00 UTC No. 16444942
>>16444816
>/sfg/ falls for electric universe Immanuel Velikovsky catastrophism slop
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:38:29 UTC No. 16444953
>>16444104
It's like when you microwave your pizza rolls, except over long range.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:42:19 UTC No. 16444963
>>16444707
Very high heels for women because it's easy to balance in low grav
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:24:48 UTC No. 16445031
>>16444058
So there WAS a reason for SpaceX to have to do a study about sharks! Except it was needed for expendable employees rather than expendable stages.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:49:31 UTC No. 16445070
>>16444058
Sharks don't eat people, they are fish of peace. He was probably raped and murdered by dolphins or the aptly named killer whales.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:24:19 UTC No. 16445108
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:15:43 UTC No. 16445230
>>16444816
>>16444818
Heterodotus has been vindicated on a shitload of other issues recently.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:30:57 UTC No. 16445350
>>16443747
well at least it'd prove that the tower catch wasn't a proof and give them more reentry data, along with finally opening up orbital flights
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:31:57 UTC No. 16445351
>>16445350
wasn't a fluke*
so it won't be very interesting as a flight but it'll open the path forward for the first orbital test flights
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:36:30 UTC No. 16445373
>>16444157
disappointed in them, they've gotten so much less ambitious. regression to the mean i guess
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:43:49 UTC No. 16445380
>>16444301
trump is literally ahead in several mainstream polls, that wasn't happening this time around in 2020
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:52:00 UTC No. 16445384
>>16444641
impressive shot. now imagine a shot of a starship burning for mars in front of the red planet
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:53:11 UTC No. 16445385
>>16444642
i think it'll be more art deco-ish
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:54:37 UTC No. 16445387
>>16444654
looks like a rouge trader vessel lol
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:01:09 UTC No. 16445396
>>16444711
only correct answer
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:32:21 UTC No. 16445737
>>16444407
If you try hard enough maybe you can become American someday.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:36:20 UTC No. 16445739
>>16444726
And yet Starbase is in Texas. Curious!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:38:05 UTC No. 16445743
>>16444736
Yeah, we need mind uploading. Don't worry, though. There's a great man working on it.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:56:07 UTC No. 16445769
>>16444880
It will be filled with uneducated people who don't like to work