🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:21:38 UTC No. 16444916
Flight 6 hardware Edition
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Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:24:34 UTC No. 16444927
>>16444916
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:28:32 UTC No. 16444933
>page 9
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:29:09 UTC No. 16444935
>>16444933
>251 images
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:29:12 UTC No. 16444936
>>16444933
>what is the image limit
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:29:29 UTC No. 16444938
>>16444933
Image limit retard
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:34:59 UTC No. 16444946
>>16444944
solar panels make it look like a factorio base
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:37:13 UTC No. 16444949
>>16444944
take up less space than car parks in 300 people american town
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:37:23 UTC No. 16444950
>>16444944
there's no way the government would allow colonists to get their hands on weapons grade uranium
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:37:34 UTC No. 16444951
>>16444944
we already talked about this last thread
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:40:33 UTC No. 16444955
>>16444944
>then that is what we will do
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:41:26 UTC No. 16444958
>>16444951
Excuse me for thinking about where the power for ISRU, the key component of serious Mars missions, is coming from
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:41:34 UTC No. 16444959
>>16444950
You don't need, or even want, HEU to run a nuclear reactor. Particularly when you're powering a city/colony with predictable power needs, rather than a warship.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:41:49 UTC No. 16444960
>>16444950
The government literally can't do shit past LEO.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:42:10 UTC No. 16444962
>>16444944
seems pretty trivial to me.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:42:26 UTC No. 16444964
Please do not talk about space flight in this thread; we already talked about it in the last thread.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:43:11 UTC No. 16444965
>>16444960
They can refuse to export it, unless threatened with credible threats of kinetic bombardment.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:44:11 UTC No. 16444966
>>16444944
Oh no no no
Solar chads... our response?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:45:47 UTC No. 16444969
>>16444944
Imagine being the guy who has to sweep the dust off of all those panels every day.
Would you go to Mars if that was going to be your job?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:46:20 UTC No. 16444970
>>16444966
>Solar chads
no such thing
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:46:29 UTC No. 16444971
>>16444944
First hailstorm is gonna wreck that thing.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:46:58 UTC No. 16444972
>>16444969
sure, why not? sounds like an easy job.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:47:16 UTC No. 16444973
>>16444944
how many times do I have to post this
https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/1
>When Zubrin pointed out that it would require 6-10 football fields of solar panels to refuel a single Starship Elon said "Fine, that's what we will do".
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:49:37 UTC No. 16444980
>>16444970
Ok now ask the same question about Mars
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:51:04 UTC No. 16444982
>>16444973
Musk is forced to use an inferior option out of political necessity? Yes. Isn't it infuriating?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:52:03 UTC No. 16444984
>>16444973
It'll be the plan until one day Elon suddenly announces that actually nuclear is great after all.
>we're going to land falcon 9 first stages with parachutes
>actually propulsive landing is great
>we're going to land dragon capsules with propulsive landing
>actually parachutes are great
>we're going to reuse falcon 9 second stages
>actually expendable is great
>starship is going to be carbon fiber
>actually steel is great
>starship is going to use a concrete pad
>actually water deluge is great
>we're going to use solar panels on mars
YOU ARE HERE
>actually nuclear power is great
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:52:59 UTC No. 16444987
>>16444942
>/sfg/ falls for electric universe Immanuel Velikovsky catastrophism slop
It's called the Dzhanibekov effect, and not only has /sfg/ fallen for it so has NASA and the USSR as it's been the subject of a large number of zero-G missions on mir and the iss.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:54:49 UTC No. 16444989
>>16444984
he isn't anti nuclear.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:55:55 UTC No. 16444991
>>16444987
The Earth going breakdancing because of it is a little bit fringe, surely?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:56:36 UTC No. 16444992
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:56:41 UTC No. 16444993
>>16444944
Solar on Mars is purely a backup, it's too far from the Sun
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:57:37 UTC No. 16444996
>>16444989
He wasn't "anti-steel" when he thought carbon fiber was his best choice. The point is that he is readily willing to change his approaches and doesn't feel wed to his past decisions. As soon as nuclear becomes a politically/economically viable option for SpaceX it is likely he'll embrace it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:58:34 UTC No. 16444999
>>16444944
uhh, you do know that with bulk buying 575w panels at $100 each, you can get 6MW with 11,310 panels, which altogether is only $1,131,000 right?
At just below 28kg each panel, that's also just a total of 315 metric tons btw
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:58:44 UTC No. 16445000
>>16444992
fuck I need to get that expansion
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:59:41 UTC No. 16445002
>>16444991
Physics doesn't apply to planets I guess.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:59:54 UTC No. 16445003
>>16444999
Nuclear chuds irrevocably destroyed LMAO
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:00:38 UTC No. 16445004
>>16444999
s-smart frogposter?!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:01:07 UTC No. 16445005
>>16444999
>>16445003
If panels were the expensive part of solar systems, sure. But they're not.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:04:07 UTC No. 16445008
>>16445005
Tesla already make industrial scale inverters, send a few powerpacks and it'll be fine man
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:04:20 UTC No. 16445009
>>16445005
If only they could leverage business ties with a large solar company or some sort of electrical manufacturer for the other expensive parts of a solar system, like batteries and inverters and shit.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:05:19 UTC No. 16445011
>>16444999
That's ridiculous kek
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:06:11 UTC No. 16445013
>>16445009
yeah, too bad we can't all get what we want :(
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:11:27 UTC No. 16445015
>>16445009
>Support frames
>Power conditioning equipment
>Battery systems
>Temperature regulators
>Maintenance tasks
>Labor
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:14:18 UTC No. 16445019
>>16445015
Optimus jannies
>Elon, what is my purpose
>you sweep solar panels on Mars
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:17:45 UTC No. 16445022
>>16445015
>temperature regulators
Boring company
>battery systems
Tesla
>support frames
SpaceX
>Solar panels
Solarcity/Tesla
They're already set, this isn't NASA opening billion dollar contracts for their second cousins to sit on their hands, the answer is that they're just gonna make it all themselves for manufacturing cost + labor and shoot it into space.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:19:12 UTC No. 16445023
>>16445022
does solarcity actually do anything
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:19:24 UTC No. 16445024
>>16444996
>>16444944
Solar is the delightfully counterintuitive option, which is why it will happen
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:20:32 UTC No. 16445025
>>16444944
Which is cheaper?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:20:54 UTC No. 16445026
scrub
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:22:53 UTC No. 16445027
>>16445024
the nice thing about rockets is they are awesome. they're big, they're loud, they're super powerful, they go places fast.
the awful thing about solar is it's boring as fuck. it just sits there. it generates meh power. it doesn't make any noise. the panels are small there are just a lot of them.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:24:10 UTC No. 16445029
>>16445024
There's counterintuitive and there's counterphysical. Martian solar to do the needful is the latter.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:24:15 UTC No. 16445030
Has there been any research into making solar panel with Mars soil?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:25:47 UTC No. 16445032
>>16445023
They did bring some pretty cool products to market but Elon's cousins did a fraud and he bailed it out.
Since he bought it they mostly do powerwall and big battery installs for government, imo they're waiting for solar panel tech to mature while focussing on vertically integrated tech from Tesla (batteries).
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:26:15 UTC No. 16445033
>>16445022
The Boring Company doesn't build temperature managing equipment, but a sealed room does insulate against swings in temperature.
Solar City doesn't actually make panels, which is the biggest problem here.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:27:26 UTC No. 16445036
Booster 13 is being lifted onto the launch mount. It's only been nine days since Flight 5
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:30:48 UTC No. 16445038
>>16445027
It's what will happen, not what I want to happen
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:31:07 UTC No. 16445039
>>16445036
SLSsisters...
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:33:08 UTC No. 16445042
The dust on Mars is statically charged, right? Is it possible to harness that for power?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:37:48 UTC No. 16445044
>>16445042
Some of it, sometimes. No.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:38:53 UTC No. 16445045
>>16445036
no brakes on the musk maglev
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:39:37 UTC No. 16445047
>>16445036
he can't keep getting away with it!!! think of the piping plovers!!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:40:05 UTC No. 16445048
>>16445033
The boring company makes holes in the ground.
Holes in the ground do temperature regulation passively. The only reason homes aren't passively temperature regulated is because of enormous red tape bullshit increasing the cost 100x. Used to do core samples for the local coal mine, it was 1 million bucks per hole (2001 bucks). 900k of that was red tape cost, out of the remaining 100k half of it went to making the bank happy and 50k was left for the company.
In reality new estates should be established with a common temperature sink bore installed. If you could eliminate the red tape cost you could have a thermal plant for ~50k installed and just pipe the ~15 degree C heat around to share between 150 houses.
No such issues on mars. Shitty geothermal gradient but they can use that big ol' heatsink of rock to regulate whatever temperatures they want.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:42:45 UTC No. 16445057
>>16445033
Oh forgot Solar City shit.
Yeah Tesla softly got out of the solar panel game. Issues with suppliers. They sacked everyone on solar at Buffalo, but since then they've refit the factory and re-hired manufacturing engineers.
They've been doing something there. Musk never wanted to give up on solar and he's spoken coyly about manufacturing panels again more recently. They have the capability.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:42:54 UTC No. 16445058
>>16445053
Complaining about dept of labor OSHA violations is crazy
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:44:02 UTC No. 16445059
>>16445058
Worship of regulation lawfare is so cult like
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:44:24 UTC No. 16445060
its been forever since elon was like "fuck it were hotstaging". Where is the integrated hotstaging ring? You'd think a prototype for it would be hanging around.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:44:52 UTC No. 16445061
>>16445031
kek
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:45:06 UTC No. 16445062
>>16445060
Block 2, secret squirrel stuff, 2025.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:45:41 UTC No. 16445065
>>16445053
What the fuck does the department of transportation have to do with Neuralink?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:46:32 UTC No. 16445066
>>16444996
Guarantee it's already happening or at least in the early stages.
So quickly anons forget about him getting invited to tour Los Alamos.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:46:34 UTC No. 16445067
>>16445058
Is spacex actually a dangerous place to work compared to typical construction or did I read a hit piece? Seems like you couldn't horseshit real injuries and the worker's story.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:47:19 UTC No. 16445068
>>16445065
Monkeys weren't transported in monkey specific truck with monkey specific seat belts in monkey specific cage.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:47:50 UTC No. 16445069
>>16445063
This has the same gorgeous 90s boomer energy as airship to orbit
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:49:37 UTC No. 16445071
>>16445006
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status
>SpaceX scrubbed the launch of the Starlink 6-61 mission "due to unfavorable recovery weather conditions." Liftoff is now targeting 5:47 pm ET (2147 UTC) on Wednesday, October. 23.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:50:12 UTC No. 16445072
>>16445067
SpaceX has 10X more construction work taking place than "industry avg" in space industry. And they said SpaceX is bad because its 2X worse than "industry avg". Same thing was said of Tesla when they were building a new factory in a year vs 5+ years of other factories and claimed it was worse.
The moral dilemma is this. A doctor kills 10 patient working on 100 patient in 1 year vs a doctor kill 1 patient working on 10 patient per year for 10 years.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:51:19 UTC No. 16445073
>>16445068
I can't tell if you made that post in jest or not but after looking it up that may as well be the case.
Neuralink has actual medical doctors working with them, right? I doubt they would neglect sanitization procedures.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:51:36 UTC No. 16445074
>>16445068
Speaking of monkeys, still can't believe that the general public was was actually outraged at Neuralink for experimenting with them, while they are fine with the other 999999 companies doing the same out there lmao.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:51:46 UTC No. 16445075
>>16445067
I think you can search OSHA investigations by company on their public database, and then it's trivial to compare the per-capita rate to the rest of the job market.
I am too lazy to do so, but my gut instinct is that their injury and incident rate is not high enough to justify whatever scrutiny the Department of Labor is putting them under.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:51:48 UTC No. 16445076
>>16445061
>kicks employee in the water logged flame trench
>you can't scare me elon, NSF interviewed the FAA and without a storm water permit you can't even static fire here
>that gives us plenty of time to get the sharks out
>wha-
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:53:02 UTC No. 16445077
>>16445074
They don't care. They just got told about it in a tone that makes it sound bad, and they don't want to miss the apparent direction of the wind on a subject they know and care nothing about.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:55:06 UTC No. 16445078
>>16444946
conveyor belts would prolly work on mars
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:55:08 UTC No. 16445079
>>16445074
>general public
They dont care. They are just fed whatever propaganda slop that comes to their eyes from the standard propaganda outlets like Reuters/APNews/etc. I view these agencies as going to McDonalds for information about the state of the world. "Wow the world only eats burgers and fries?" "Wow Musk bad!! Wow"
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:55:28 UTC No. 16445080
>>16445074
>still can't believe that the general public was was actually outraged at Neuralink for experimenting with them, while they are fine with the other 999999 companies doing the same out there lmao.
People have no idea what goes on in the world until the internet tells them to be mad at elon for doing it
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:55:33 UTC No. 16445081
>>16445053
Maybe stop being a chud on Twitter (not calling it X). Donate to democrats, and lick Kamala's coochie
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:55:34 UTC No. 16445082
>>16445074
They're not told to care about it so it doesn't exist. The only things that exist are the things that they're directly told exist. They don't have the capability to imagine any part of the universe beyond the latest set of headlines.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:56:38 UTC No. 16445084
>>16445081
New whistleblower news dropped. Kamala working with British labor/communist party to kill X.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:59:26 UTC No. 16445086
>>16445084
The British, such a formidable foe. I'm sure Musk is trembling
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:01:00 UTC No. 16445088
>>16445073
Spotlight being shined on Musk's company is just political in nature. There are no such thing as a perfect person in this world, nor a perfect company nor a perfect anything. Given a million different pages of regulator, everyone is a criminal if the spotlight is shined on them. Thats why these things are absolutely irrelevant. You can find anything wrong with any company in the US. The same arg could be applied to any hospitals where someone threw the gloves in the wrong garbage bin and claim its "bio hazardous" and other big words to claim its an unsafe hospital.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:01:01 UTC No. 16445089
>>16445085
hey, mimas is not to scale there
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:04:05 UTC No. 16445090
>>16445089
Own that fraud
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:09:09 UTC No. 16445095
>>16445089
>mimas
Even Dysnomia is bigger than that moonlet.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:16:24 UTC No. 16445101
>>16445095
Wtf it actually is. How small is Mimas??
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:17:15 UTC No. 16445102
>>16445091
the most interesting aspect of this
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:22:11 UTC No. 16445106
>>16445102
Actually jk, comets being larger than phobos is pretty insane. I didn’t realize hale bopp was that threatening
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:24:11 UTC No. 16445107
>>16445067
If you're reading about SpaceX in the media, it's a hit piece.
Reuters ran a piece that compares *serious injury claims* across the aerospace injury with "Injuries, illnesses *and* serious injury claims" from SpaceX.
Still came out not looking that bad honestly.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:25:56 UTC No. 16445109
>>16445101
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_
Seems to be the smallest of all the well-known, round moons. One could argue that satellites like Puck are smaller, but those are more spherical-ish, so depends on who you ask.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:28:18 UTC No. 16445111
>>16445107
>If you're reading about SpaceX in the media, it's a hit piece.
If SpaceX does something "bad" then it's "Elon Musk's SpaceX". If it does something "good" then it's just "SpaceX". No kidding, you can easily fact-check this.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:30:54 UTC No. 16445112
So just checking wikipedia, super heavy is 275 tons, starship is 100 tons, together 385 tons.
I think I heard starship is speculated to be capable of 20 tons to LEO right now. Where can they get 80 tons off the dry mass? Are mass savings on the second stage a bigger deal because mass on the second stage remains for the whole flight?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:32:32 UTC No. 16445115
>>16445112
They aren't even using Raptor 3 yet sweaty
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:35:04 UTC No. 16445118
>>16445109
So this random piece of shit moon with absolutely ZERO reasons to colonize is more famous than important colonizations points for the outer system like Enceladus and Titan because its vaguely shaped like that one thing from the popular reddit franchise.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:36:44 UTC No. 16445120
>>16445115
Does more thrust without changing anything else about the rocket mean more payload because less gravity loss? I assume raptor 3 is lighter too, and I know about the shielding situation. Just wanted to know how thrust works. I think that also means you can carry more fuel and still lift off the ground in time not to destroy your launch pad, which is why they are extending starship.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:37:20 UTC No. 16445121
>>16445120
gravity losses are a constant
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:39:45 UTC No. 16445123
>>16445112
As in, to hit 100 tonnes to LEO?
~5-10 tonnes from hot stage ring integration and shavings.
Raptor 3 engine weight alone reduces 38 tonnes. Then there's reduction in heat shielding minimization in engine bay, piping optimization.
~10 tonnes from skin thickness reduction.
Still considerable weight to lose from internals, they haven't started optimizing their frozen methane filter system yet.
Block 2 starship has 25% more fuel, both stages have ~25% more thrust. Starship could meet 100 tonnes by next year.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:40:25 UTC No. 16445124
>>16445121
what about the never stop throoooosting meme when they announced hot staging. I thought the faster you got the orbit the better and if you dropped thrust for a moment you gimp yourself
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:42:09 UTC No. 16445127
>>16445123
>just 2 more years and then we will have a payload lol !
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:49:44 UTC No. 16445132
>>16445123
R2 3590 pounds x (33 + 6) / 2000 = 70 tons
R3 3362 pounds x (33 + 6) / 2000 = 65.5 tons
Do you know something I don't?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:52:44 UTC No. 16445137
>>16445132
No, I fucked up. Pulled that figure off a post without thinking about it.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:57:01 UTC No. 16445138
>>16445063
reminds me of the iceberg aircraft carrier concept
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:58:30 UTC No. 16445139
>>16445112
didn't musk say that the flight 3 starship(aka block I) could do 50~ tons?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:01:11 UTC No. 16445141
>>16445129
Based boomer. Checked his tl the other day and he was reposting Musk's election-posting. I hope he lives to see a thriving lunar base.
Also, he posted this, picrel: https://x.com/realhomerhickam/statu
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:01:25 UTC No. 16445142
>>16445139
Yeah I can't remember where I heard 20 tons, but I remember the accusation that elon's figures on the presentation were suspect
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:01:34 UTC No. 16445143
>>16445123
such a deluded shill lol
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:01:55 UTC No. 16445144
>>16445132
Here ya go.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:05:05 UTC No. 16445146
>>16445142
>elon's figures on the presentation were suspect
nta but when Elon said 45ish tonnes I knew it was much lower. he always highballs the numbers. 20T makes sense. Starship has to carry a bigger heatshield than shuttle without the isp of hydromeme. People make fun of hydrogen, but the shuttle designer's weren't retarded, it simply wouldn't work with something as low isp as methane
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:05:25 UTC No. 16445147
>>16445144
R2 2875kg x (33 + 6) = 112125
R3 1720kg x (33 + 6) = 67080
112 - 67 = 45 tonnes.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:05:30 UTC No. 16445148
>>16445127
>>16445132
>>16445143
>samefagging this hard
EDS sufferers are getting extremely desperate ever since the booster catch.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:06:21 UTC No. 16445149
>>16445015
>Support frames
They're landing 200 tons of steel with every cargo flight
>Temperature regulators
Dumbass Mars is COLD. Solar+electronics will work great
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:07:09 UTC No. 16445152
>>16445147
Wait lol I'm retarded, I'm gonna go touch grass.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:07:30 UTC No. 16445153
>>16445015
>Support frames
Just lay the panels on the ground. It's free real estate up there. Every kilogram of frame is a kilogram of panel you're missing out on.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:08:23 UTC No. 16445155
>>16445149
>Dumbass Mars is COLD. Solar+electronics will work great
Batteries don't like cold.
>>16445153
You need to smooth it out with a bulldozer or else you'll tear up your panels.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:08:32 UTC No. 16445156
>>16445144
>>16445147
Oh, what are vehicle side commodities and hardware mass? Thats where the big savings are
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:09:26 UTC No. 16445158
>>16445112
starshipsisters... Will starship be economically competitive at 20T to LEO?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:12:05 UTC No. 16445160
>>16445155
bulldozer in mars isn't a problem, you're going to need earth moving equipment up there anyway. Also it can be a small, electric, autonomous bulldozer, moving small amounts of soil at a time but working around the clock until the job is done. rocks too large to be pushed can be drilled into and cracked apart using hydraulic rock splitters.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:12:27 UTC No. 16445162
>>16445156
engine shielding, Mexicans to do the thrust vectoring etc.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:13:57 UTC No. 16445163
>>16445148
He told me they were going to shed just over half the weight of the raptors, wikipedia said R3 was a 100kg reduction from R2 because its missing information, it's not EDS to ask what's going on. I'm sure I've done more elon shilling on /g/ than you today.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:14:46 UTC No. 16445164
>>16445158
a fully reusable falcon 9 is still years ahead of everyone else
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:16:02 UTC No. 16445166
>>16445158
it says the social cost of methane is 1,500 per ton
starship uses 10,000 tons of it
that puts a minimum price at 15 million per launch
for 20 tons
its still competitive
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:17:10 UTC No. 16445168
>>16445165
SSTO
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:17:47 UTC No. 16445169
>>16445063
They built spaceships out of ice in Legends of the Galactic Heroes. Obviously the show isn't super-realistic in the realm of sci-fi (and the ice ships were used temporarily) but that was something that broke my suspension of disbelief since I figured the ships would either start to sublimate from heat after equipment and humans were moved in, or would stay too cold to be habitable.
If heat isn't an issue like I thought it was then I could see ice being a good space building material: very common, good radiation shielding, and can be recycled into energy or propulsion if needed.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:17:52 UTC No. 16445170
hilarious how after the abject failure of a vehicle design spacexissies just cope and cope. First it was muh rapid iteration! then when musk drops the truth bomb about how bad things really are its 'starship version 100 will save us, raptor 69 will save us!!!1!'.
Pray tell: why would they build version 1 at all if they knew it wouldn't work?
Truth is they're fucked.
Nobody wants to tell Musk that he bet the company on a failed design.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:18:39 UTC No. 16445171
>>16445169
Pykrete
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:18:46 UTC No. 16445172
>>16445166
You still have the rocket divided by how many times you can reuse it. At what price point does it lose competitiveness?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:19:48 UTC No. 16445174
>>16445166
MINIMUM FUEL PRICE OF 15 MIL!!???
this is the biggest blackpill of all. It's over. So much for 10 mil per launch lmao.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:20:01 UTC No. 16445176
can someone give me a non meme answer as to why I shouldn't be a starship mass to orbit doomer
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:20:03 UTC No. 16445177
>>16445166
>>16445172
and stage zero operation costs
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:22:31 UTC No. 16445179
>>16445164
it's not a fully reusable falcon 9..
it's a superheavy lift launch vehicle with all the costs associated.
starbase costs 4 million per day to run.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:25:33 UTC No. 16445183
>>16445166
>social cost
wtf is this?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:26:01 UTC No. 16445184
>>16445163
>/g/
oh no no no no
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:31:50 UTC No. 16445188
>>16445176
doomer is the right attitude. if they don't somehow triple the mass to orbit and actually made it operationally reusable then its actually over for real. People were sold on the shuttle fantasy too and gradually realised it didn't work so well over it's 30 year service life.
We could well repeat that.
Starship may give us a starker reality check by being physically unable to do HLS.
Or it could struggle through, but never become reusable in an economically workable way. Especially with such anaemic payload for its massive size
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:35:39 UTC No. 16445192
the samefag is strong in this thread
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:36:46 UTC No. 16445193
>>16445192
sfg is three people
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:39:33 UTC No. 16445198
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:40:24 UTC No. 16445199
>>16445189
Are spacesuits electrically conductive?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:40:33 UTC No. 16445200
>>16445192
sfg is like 3 people
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:42:34 UTC No. 16445201
>>16445198
RAPTOR 2 WILL SAVE US
>doesn't save us
...
...
RAPTOR 3 WILL SAVE US
>?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:44:28 UTC No. 16445204
>>16445203
fuck you for posting this gay Chinese lunar lander or something.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:44:47 UTC No. 16445205
>>16445201
>raptor 3 is bad because... it just is okay???
return to reddit, EDS retard.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:45:36 UTC No. 16445206
you do all remember F9 then F9 with non grid engine layout then F9 FT then F9 FT 1.2 then block 4 then block 5 then block 5 FT or whateverthefuck
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:45:59 UTC No. 16445207
>>16445193
>>16445200
but one single hivemind
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:46:29 UTC No. 16445209
>>16445201
Raptor 2 kind of felt like a non-event. It even feels weird using the numbers. Raptor "3" just feels like what Raptor was supposed to be the whole time.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:50:35 UTC No. 16445212
>>16445209
Well that's true. raptor 2 is basically raptor 1, because raptor 1 straight up didn't work. All R1s recovered from the high altitude program had eaten their insides to some extent. Starhoppers engine even failed a few inches before touchdown
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:53:49 UTC No. 16445214
>>16445203
Are those just dust clouds, or something cooler?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 02:59:24 UTC No. 16445220
>>16445166
LNG is like $300 per ton. I don’t know what social cost is. Sounds like communist gobbledegook.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:01:42 UTC No. 16445223
>>16445219
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status
>The 4+m "hammerhead" fairing gives the Long March 2C quite a bit of rejuvenated use after this extremely-long-serving launch vehicle variant crossed 42 years of continuous service under the same name:
I'm pretty sure that 42 years of service makes this the oldest operational launch vehicle, since the current Soyuz variant only came online in 2004
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:03:21 UTC No. 16445224
>>16445129
Praying but this guy had fingers up his ass if they found colon cancer
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:05:25 UTC No. 16445225
Everyone go report this thread >>16445046 so janny sees it faster. Better to activate FTS as soon as possible.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:28:12 UTC No. 16445239
>>16445214
Apparently nothing special
>This GIF shows clouds drifting over Mount Sharp on Mars, as viewed by NASA's Curiosity rover on March 19, 2021, the 3,063rd Martian day, or sol, of the mission.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:35:15 UTC No. 16445243
>>16445065
What does agriculture have to do with brain chips??
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:39:27 UTC No. 16445246
>>16445243
Animal tests?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:42:04 UTC No. 16445251
>>16445243
Neuralink was testing on pigs so I could see why the Department of Agriculture would come into play there.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:58:47 UTC No. 16445270
>>16445251
damn the congress people always getting the latest in medicine
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:29:45 UTC No. 16445309
>>16445251
Seems like some insane over reach for department of agriculture to be investigating just because a farm animal is used, but absolutely no farming is involved
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:30:08 UTC No. 16445310
just voted for humans to mars
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:34:33 UTC No. 16445314
>>16445086
if the "Kamala administration" is working against him that means the international zog entity is and that's nothing to laugh at
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:37:32 UTC No. 16445317
>>16445171
That's just ice filled with straw and it doesn't work either.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:38:58 UTC No. 16445318
>>16445214
Water ice clouds. Same as we get around here.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:41:27 UTC No. 16445320
>>16445169
It's fine desu. Cover the outside in dirt or foil and it won't sublimate.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:42:12 UTC No. 16445322
>>16445318
huh, I didn't know Mars had water clouds. Is there anything resembling a water cycle or does it just sit in the sky?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:43:34 UTC No. 16445325
>>16445322
I think it falls as snow but sublimates before it reaches the ground. Though sometimes frost is seen on the ground. Viking saw this.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:47:05 UTC No. 16445328
why don't we just bring oil to mars on starships and burn it for power?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:50:52 UTC No. 16445331
>>16445314
the jews love trump. watch elons first pennsylvania town hall if you want to see where he stands on israel. he is suckin jew sack and strokin the shaft.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:58:23 UTC No. 16445334
>>16445328
Because thats inefficient.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:00:18 UTC No. 16445336
>>16445328
There is oil on mars
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:04:04 UTC No. 16445338
>>16445322
Mars's water cycle is that it's been in an ice-age for several billion years and it's enormous ocean is now trapped beneath several kilometres of debris.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:04:51 UTC No. 16445340
>>16445338
“Ocean” but its just ice
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:06:25 UTC No. 16445342
>>16445340
Still an ocean.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:07:20 UTC No. 16445343
>>16445342
Antarctica is not an ocean, doofus.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:26:04 UTC No. 16445348
>>16445338
>it's
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:34:47 UTC No. 16445352
>>16445349
hmm, must be a new invasive species from Europa
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:17:25 UTC No. 16445361
>>16445360
the way the ketchup piles up makes sense, but still disgusts me
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:20:31 UTC No. 16445362
>>16445361
Did you see the video? The way he inhales it makes me gag
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:30:35 UTC No. 16445369
>nobody cares about angry anymore
grim
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:32:30 UTC No. 16445370
>>16445338
Sometimes I get mad thinking of how badly we were robbed. Imagine Venus and Mars both being habitable right when we started launching rockets.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:33:19 UTC No. 16445371
>>16445370
but that means there's the possibility that we would have to fight alien life for our right to inhabit those worlds
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:39:12 UTC No. 16445376
>>16445371
If we are launching rockets to other planets and they arent, its not going to be much of a fight.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:40:04 UTC No. 16445377
>>16445369
his EDS and virgin galactiphilia was becoming unbearable
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:47:04 UTC No. 16445381
>>16445223
Under the same name yeah, but CZ-2C has had some modifications.
>Second stage stretch in the mid 90s
>Addition of fins in the mid 2000s
>Various modifications to carry various third stage
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:54:49 UTC No. 16445388
>>16445348
Boomeritis has robbed me of my linguabatics.
>>16445343
Comets are oceans.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:57:51 UTC No. 16445392
>>16445388
I wish I could give you the fastest, hardest bitch slap with the meatiest hand possible across this screen.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:00:05 UTC No. 16445393
>>16445392
If I cover the indian ocean with dirt does it turn into a continent?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:03:27 UTC No. 16445399
>>16445393
If all of that dirt piles high enough to be above water and solid then yes. But that would involve removing another whole continent and putting it where the indian ocean is, further proving me right. Continents arent separated by tectonic playes either because then you have to explain why India isnt its own continent, of why NZ isnt, etc.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:05:36 UTC No. 16445401
>>16445008
Might as well take the opportunity to change the electrical delivery standard while he's at it since they're starting with a clean slate. Return to DC power delivery.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:07:02 UTC No. 16445403
>>16445132
Yes, you didn't take the mass removed ships ideas which was massive
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:08:33 UTC No. 16445407
Starship more like Slaveship. All it will do is transport the people Musk takes advantage of to a place where no regulations can stop him from enslaving them.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:08:57 UTC No. 16445408
>>16445399
So the definition of an ocean is "A large body of liquid which is not covered by a solid"? Are boats islands?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:09:44 UTC No. 16445409
>>16445399
India is called a subcontinent for a reason.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:13:57 UTC No. 16445412
>>16445408
There is no set definition like there is of planets. Google says a large continuous mass of land conventionally regarded as a collective region, which the key words are conventionally regarded as collective region. The only thing that defiend what a continent is, is the common knowledge of what humans consider a region to be. If the entire indian ocean is made of solid land because you put a continents worth of dirt there, the entire region is about the same (land made of dirt with nothing else) and is the size of the massive indian ocean. Conventional wisdom would indicate that a region that is very similar across a large area would be considered the same region, and thus a continent. Retard.
>>16445409
Nigger
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:14:00 UTC No. 16445413
>>16445310
Based
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:15:04 UTC No. 16445414
>>16445413
Cringe vooter
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:16:11 UTC No. 16445416
>>16445369
Always seemed like a faggot to me desu
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:17:01 UTC No. 16445417
>>16445412
yes they're subhumans
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:17:12 UTC No. 16445418
/sfg/ - Sod Fiction General
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:18:19 UTC No. 16445419
>>16445414
You are homosexual
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:19:45 UTC No. 16445421
>>16445419
Sounds like something a cocksucker would say
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:24:16 UTC No. 16445422
i come back to sfg after the catch and faggots here are still dooming about mass and saying starship can't do ~50 tonnes to leo right now because... it just can't ok? thunderf00t is right on this despite being wrong about everything else or something. Ok?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:25:52 UTC No. 16445423
>>16445343
there is an oceans >worth of< water trapped under the surface on Mars in the form of ice
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:27:32 UTC No. 16445425
https://x.com/peterrhague/status/18
>So far the only acknowledgement of the booster catch even happening by the Harris team is to mock Trump for being excited about it. That doesn’t bode well for space if she wins.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:27:42 UTC No. 16445426
>>16445423
Will never melt into an ocean. Fake and gay.
>inb4 terraformeme
Kek.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:29:13 UTC No. 16445428
>>16445421
White (homo)dudes for Harris right?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:32:07 UTC No. 16445430
>>16444916
Can I ask about space and our neighborhood in general in here or is it just rockets? I´ve been trying to find a flat map of the stars and planets around us in a 50 light year radius
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:40:34 UTC No. 16445434
>>16445430
Anything space. We discuss probery and planetary science missions allot, though allot of roggetry. Heres 15 LY, not sure about 50 tho, looking now.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:42:38 UTC No. 16445435
>>16445434
>>16445430
Also how did you find us.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:47:06 UTC No. 16445436
>>16445434
>>16445435
Thanks for the help. Well, I occasionally come here for math problems, so I thought, why not for space? That´s pretty much it. Though I´ll be hanging around for a bit.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:47:50 UTC No. 16445437
>>16445434
C is too damn low.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:48:33 UTC No. 16445439
>>16445437
If exceeding C is at all possible, multiples of C are probably attainable.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:49:57 UTC No. 16445441
Exceeding speed of light is not possible. Its a law of nature for a reason. You do not break those, and you will go 0.99999C and be happy.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:53:30 UTC No. 16445444
>>16445442
If I funelled enough braps into it, would it become a black hole?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:54:03 UTC No. 16445445
>>16445437
Not born in time to explore other solar systems.
Born in time to copy our consciousness and have a robot clone go live forever while our bodies fail us, though.
Man I wish I was the robo-clone.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:55:02 UTC No. 16445447
>>16445444
Anything would become a black hole given enough braps.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:55:47 UTC No. 16445448
>>16445434
We're very lucky the nearest star system to us is a triple star system with a yellow and orange dwarf and not just a red dwarf
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:04:24 UTC No. 16445454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05r
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:06:48 UTC No. 16445456
>>16445442
I get unreasonably uneasy and unnerved that there are celestial objects out there RIGHT NOW that are unfathomably big.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:09:17 UTC No. 16445460
>>16445441
It's just not fair though. I don't care if this makes me sound like a petulant child. It's infuriating that there are millions of stars in the galaxy but the nearest ones still take almost an entire human lifespan to reach with currently plausible technology. Even my great-grandkids probably won't have the experience of metaphorically stepping foot in more than two star systems. How can there be so much to explore but no method of exploring it in a reasonable timeframe? It's supposed to be our destiny as humans to colonize the entire galaxy but it will take use centuries to colonize the nearest star systems, it's like the universe is spitting in the face of life itself, reminding us that we're nothing more than a chemical anomaly on an ordinary star in the fringes of the galaxy, reminding us that we're not destined to be masters of the universe.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:14:39 UTC No. 16445462
>>16445460
It isnt the limit of the speed of light. Its the limit of aging. You direct your whining at the wrong thing, one is much more feasible to overcome than the other.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:20:03 UTC No. 16445466
>>16445460
It's a filter for species that haven't yet mastered their biology, yeah.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:20:42 UTC No. 16445468
>>16445460
We will spread through the galaxy using the stars as stepping stones. You're thinking of it all wrong. You, as an individual, are a small part of one large machine; humanity. Whether you're one of numerous engineers working on rocket designs, an astronaut who will die of old age on a generation ship to Alpha Centauri, or simply a spectator, we all play our part in advancing the human race. Individualism has destroyed the west.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:20:53 UTC No. 16445469
>>16445430
That's actually a harder question than you might think because we keep finding new brown dwarfs. If you mean real luminous stars and don't care about up to the minute exoplanet data then here.
https://projectrho.com/public_html/
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:23:31 UTC No. 16445472
>>16445456
At first glance I thought this was some weird anarchist flag.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:27:48 UTC No. 16445475
>>16445460
just solve biological immortality or mind uploading first
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:32:06 UTC No. 16445478
>>16445475
Its been solved. Look at jellyfish.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:35:39 UTC No. 16445479
>>16445478
for humans, the examples in other species shows it should be possible in principle in humans as well
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:35:47 UTC No. 16445480
>>16445460
This bitch universe is not going to tell us what to do, have faith in what our descendants will be capable of. Who knows if one day they will find a way to become omnipotent, and manipulate existence itself at their will. Indomitable human spirit >>> cruel indifference of the universe. Otherwise, why even bother.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:38:38 UTC No. 16445482
>>16445480
Dunno, maybe dont and stay here on Urf
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:44:36 UTC No. 16445486
>>16445053
Reminds me of Hideo Kojima saying something along "If everyone likes my new game that means that I haven't invented anything new"
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:45:18 UTC No. 16445487
>>16445053
i remember looking at neuralink jobs and you had to know a bunch of regulatory shit to get hired there
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:48:55 UTC No. 16445489
I wonder if United Rentals will expand their business to Mars too
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:52:12 UTC No. 16445491
>>16445328
>why don't we just bring oil to mars on starships and burn it for power?
we'll ship stuff like oil and coal to mars eventually
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:57:54 UTC No. 16445495
>>16445456
The weirdest part to me about such big objects is the implied light lag. 1 AU =~ 8 light minutes so that star is multiple light hours across.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:58:59 UTC No. 16445496
>>16445065
>>16445073
Neuralink was found to be transporting no infectious substances in the end but they were transporting some hazardous chemicals improperly and had to pay a pretty nominal fine of $2.5k.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:04:55 UTC No. 16445501
>>16445439
You'd need to exceed c by thousands of times interstellar travel anything close to fast. But the idea of interstellar trucking also sounds quite "kino". Pic related.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:09:23 UTC No. 16445503
>>16444935
>>16444936
>>16444938
faggot newfags lol
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:10:10 UTC No. 16445504
>>16444950
Any nuclear facilities will be operated by NASA
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:11:07 UTC No. 16445505
>>16445501
sauce?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:13:26 UTC No. 16445506
>>16445505
Don't know about the art, but the character is from Mouthwashing. It's a short psychological horror game set on an interplanetary cargo vessel.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:18:06 UTC No. 16445510
>>16445506
does it have rape scenes?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:20:20 UTC No. 16445512
>>16445510
No, but that's all I'll say to avoid spoilers.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:25:51 UTC No. 16445514
>>16445512
aww what a shame, no sexo downer rape
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:29:21 UTC No. 16445515
>>16445224
Such is life when you hit a certain age.
Now bend over and cough.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:34:12 UTC No. 16445520
Nuclear is a silver bullet for climate change
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:44:56 UTC No. 16445530
>>16445520
If anthropogenic climate change is real, we don't know what the cause is yet.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:47:57 UTC No. 16445531
>>16445441
The speed of light has only gotten weaker over time. It's inevitable that at some point we'll figure out how to break it for our own purposes.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:48:47 UTC No. 16445532
>>16445520
Gets the job done and costs more than regular bullets? Sounds about right.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:51:59 UTC No. 16445537
>>16445487
In an ideal world, you wouldn't have to deal with regulatory bullshit and instead focus on engineering but they have to focus on spending money on regulatory lawyers because of politicized attacks against the company
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:59:54 UTC No. 16445538
Pics related. Tesla's new 11 Megawatt solar panel on a 30 acre mega-super charging station that houses 168 supercharging stations which will come online in mid 2025.
Instead of Superchargers, think Mars colony habitats that can house couple hundred people there.
EBOK at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:06:25 UTC No. 16445539
Turds
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:12:44 UTC No. 16445543
>>16445360
Why, Mr. Dominick, why. That was far too much ketchup—you can’t do that!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:15:36 UTC No. 16445545
>>16445501
You don't need to exceed c at all for interstellar travel to be fast from your perspective
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:29:52 UTC No. 16445557
>>16445545
A remark as obvious as it is useless.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:56:03 UTC No. 16445566
>>16445538
Neat
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:00:21 UTC No. 16445569
>>16445557
As it invalidates the point of the post it was referring to, no
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:17:37 UTC No. 16445575
>>16445501
>>16445506
well, that was one ride of a game, thanks anon, i guess
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:27:09 UTC No. 16445579
>>16445358
>rich person buys news to push influence but I'm not constantly reminded of it
(:
>rich person buys news to push influence but I am constantly reminded of it
):<
It's true, normalfags are this retarded!!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:28:54 UTC No. 16445580
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:29:17 UTC No. 16445581
>>16445358
>tranny
That's a kike.
EBOK at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:31:04 UTC No. 16445582
>>16445580
Because a the center of a star is a square, if you ever try to imagine a star with it's size, you'll always drop off the corner and it fits. You can imagine stars and measure them without pain.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:34:47 UTC No. 16445583
>>16445439
>If exceeding C is at all possible
(It isn't)
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:36:52 UTC No. 16445585
>>16445580
believe in the elon who believes in you, anon
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:08:19 UTC No. 16445596
>>16445376
wokespergs would say thys we aren't allowed to. Sometimes I wonder how great things could have been if interplanetary rocketry was invented 400 years ago. Imagine.
There would be Heroic tales of British imperialists arriving with a gatling gun and slaying 1000 Martians to establish a town in one of their holy sites
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:11:04 UTC No. 16445598
>>16445371
>>16445376
>interplanetary colonization in the age of terrestrial decolonization
We'd have ended up with Martian and Venusian ghettos on Earth and very few humans on those planets
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:14:26 UTC No. 16445599
>>16445557
Play a space violin for your dead girlfriend on arrival, then get to making a new one.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:17:16 UTC No. 16445605
>>16445602
Thanks. The second bar graph made it too complicated for normalfags
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:18:14 UTC No. 16445606
Fermi paradox solution: Aliens have really good telescopes and just send a relativistic kill vehicle to solar systems synchronized with the species first forays into interstellar travel, chasing them from star to star while watching in high definition for lolz.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:20:54 UTC No. 16445607
>>16445605
I think it'd have more impact for redditors if you just substituted "Russia" and "China" though.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:23:21 UTC No. 16445609
>>16445602
Is this for 2024?
I thought roscosmos way fell off this year thanks to the war?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:24:32 UTC No. 16445610
How much money will Starlink be getting from airlines a few years from now?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:32:23 UTC No. 16445617
>>16445609
It's for Q1 2024
>>16445610
25k planes times ~20k per month is about 6 billion annually.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:37:39 UTC No. 16445619
>>16445610
> The total worldwide fleet size currently counts 28,674 aircraft, with 23,513 active and 5,161 grounded, and we can see a favourable trend over the last three months. In comparison to the previous month, there is a 3% increase in active aircraft and an 11% decrease in grounded aircraft.
>30 Jun 2022
lets say there are 20k aircraft
OpenAI said airliners pay 1k-5k per month per airplane (which sounds kind of low to me but fine)
that would give you revenues ranging from 240mil to 1200mil per year
looking at the market size, google gives
>The global in-flight entertainment and connectivity market size was valued at USD 6.37 billion in 2022 and is projected to grow from USD 7.48 billion in 2023 to USD 21.03 billion by 2030, exhibiting a CAGR of 15.9%.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:39:23 UTC No. 16445620
>>16445617
100k commercial shipping boats out there as well. Probably lower demand plans for those, but still ~8k per month probably spread out between big bois and smaller ones.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:40:06 UTC No. 16445622
>>16445602
This graph doesn't really do anything. Either people say it was made by a shill, or then like "well they're just sending their own satellites, it doesn't really count"
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:41:21 UTC No. 16445623
>>16445622
One can only cope so far though. "Oh they only own all global telecommunications big whoop" doesn't really ring right.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:42:12 UTC No. 16445625
>>16445622
>Either people say it was made by a shill, or then like "well they're just sending their own satellites, it doesn't really count"
Why are you hung up on this?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:44:15 UTC No. 16445626
>>16445625
I guess some people still think you can wake up normoids.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:44:47 UTC No. 16445627
>>16445610
Tree fiddy
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:48:58 UTC No. 16445628
>>16445625
I'm just saying, I've seen people here talk about it like just post that graph, but if someone insists on being anti-SpaceX then they'll still find a way. Another fun thing I see is when someone just says "stop sucking Musk's dick" or something, when they're the first person who's even mentioned Musk lol
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:58:42 UTC No. 16445630
>>16445622
>"well they're just sending their own satellites, it doesn't really count"
This is my favorite one because not only are they launching the mega constellation, they own it. So after that they have to switch to spacex has gone into debt to do this, even though industry analysts say they are profitable. Even if spacex was in debt, it would be way less debt that a competitor attempting it with disposable rockets.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:01:16 UTC No. 16445633
>>16445630
The final argument is "Starlink is shit anyway, it has too high ping for online games"
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:03:45 UTC No. 16445635
>>16445633
works fine
had it since beta and few issues
I'm not a sweaty FPS guy but it was fine for WoW and diablo 4.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:09:55 UTC No. 16445638
>>16445625
NTA but there is no bigger blow out than that graph, its easy entertainment. Normie's worldview is completely divorced from reality just from their news sources lying by omission. There are plenty of people that don't even know about falcon 9, dragon, or that spacex is the only provider that takes astronauts to the ISS and back. It's also an odd exception, usually normies know who the leaders are in any given industry, past or present. But spacex has been crushing it for a decade. And it's really going to take the moon landing and "what the god fuck is that, how is that so big, fuck me" to wake people up.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:12:44 UTC No. 16445643
>>16445602
It would be huge if someone could figure out how much of that mass is starlink, because I wonder if they would still launch more mass if you left out starlink
Also this is total spacecraft upmass, I wonder what the graph looks like if it's just payload
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:15:52 UTC No. 16445646
>>16445635
>WoW and diablo 4.
grim
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:18:32 UTC No. 16445650
>>16445630
there's a starlink thread on /g/ right now where one dude thinks that spacex (elon) are losing $100m per launch on F9 by selling them so cheap but because that's only 10-15b a year he can afford to take the hit for good PR
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:23:36 UTC No. 16445653
>>16445650
Even with elons wealth, how long could he lose that much money before going bankrupt?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:26:47 UTC No. 16445658
>>16445646
Elon plays Diablo 4 on Starlink so the peering is stupid good.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:28:16 UTC No. 16445660
>>16445657
>>16445652
>>16445654
Who cares?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:29:05 UTC No. 16445661
>>16445635
Yeah sn't it under 100ms? I'm pretty sure my ping is like 70ms usually, with my rickety wifi setup
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:30:00 UTC No. 16445662
>>16445657
Hes downing a brewski, clearly nothing good.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:30:49 UTC No. 16445663
>>16445654
"What can I say to pass this off as being unimpressive?"
He's a typical NPD with fixation issues, everything he does is rehearsed internally by thinking about how others will perceive him vs "the bad guys".
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:32:20 UTC No. 16445665
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:34:48 UTC No. 16445669
>>16445654
I think this screencap is a bit misleading, since he was more just nodding like "not bad" and it's not so much a frown as that "not bad" face. Still, it was funny how much he underplayed that whole thing
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:38:41 UTC No. 16445672
>>16445666
Where's this from? Interesting choice slapping the Blorgin color scheme on their not-Dragon with a not-X logo though
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:39:02 UTC No. 16445673
>>16445666
jesus they really have no fucking shame, they're so good at copying homework.
however they are cursed to never surpass anyone whom they're good at copying shit from, they can steal shit down to every last detail but chinks struggle with the creativity part so actually lapping their rivals in technology by doing the hard work themselves is forever behind a locked door they can't open.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:41:20 UTC No. 16445676
>>16445669
it's pretty obvious at this point that while he's clearly got EDS, and he probably wants spacex to fail, subconsciously he understands how fucking retarded all his talking points are.
but that's not the point, he is literally financially incentivised to never check himself on his own bullshit, because there is an army of crab bucket EDS havers that will pay top dollar for former basedence man to affirm their hatred with facts and logic.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:42:50 UTC No. 16445680
>>16445672
so one is the company's name? rocketaholic or deep blue aerospace?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:43:21 UTC No. 16445681
>>16445666
This thing.
This thing is gonna kill some people proper.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:43:55 UTC No. 16445682
>>16445666
so which one is the company's name? rocketaholic or deep blue aerospace?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:44:36 UTC No. 16445684
>>16445672
>rocketaholic
nah it would be rocketholic
for some reason chinks and japs love using holic in their names like that.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:44:53 UTC No. 16445685
>>16445682
Deep blue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:45:53 UTC No. 16445686
>>16445682
It's deep blue aerospace.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:46:46 UTC No. 16445687
>>16445686
wait this is a suborbital? disappointing.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:47:18 UTC No. 16445688
>>16445686
They're putting it directly on a booster?
Is this just chinese new shepard?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:47:28 UTC No. 16445689
>>16445686
that's where the passengers are going when this thing lands and then instantly starts sinking.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:52:18 UTC No. 16445693
>>16445690
I appreciate them being upfront with their failures rather than hiding as the chinese normally do.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:56:37 UTC No. 16445695
>>16445693
You misunderstand, gwailou. They did hide their failures.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:56:44 UTC No. 16445696
>>16445690
>looks like dragon
>copies blue origin while having blue in the name
Peter Thiel was right about these guys
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:57:50 UTC No. 16445698
>>16445695
They just posted a ad of their rocket exploding.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 13:58:39 UTC No. 16445699
>>16445698
Yes, that was their success.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:00:52 UTC No. 16445701
>>16445699
It really wasn't
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:10:30 UTC No. 16445711
based on my very intelligent modelling of propellant deliveries between flights 3 and 4, and 4 and 5, I predict flight 6 taking place in the last week of november
>roughly 160-180 CH4 and 550-600 LOX tanker deliveries between each flight including prop used for static fire campaigns
>CH4 tankers at most 5-6 per day, LOX 30 ish
>already had 29 CH4 and 114 LOX tankers since flight 5
add in some buffer time as you don't want dozens of tankers showing up the day before launch, and you get late november. Maybe early december at the latest
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:11:17 UTC No. 16445712
>>16445711
Fake and gay, it will happen on the anniversary of IFT-2 which is Nov 18
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:13:14 UTC No. 16445716
>>16445712
november 18 is technically possible based on those figures but they'd need to be shipping in new daily records to meet it with some time to spare
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:20:47 UTC No. 16445722
So why do extremist MAGAs think they will actually go to the moon with FakeX’s Scamship? Is it because they always fall for lies and frauds?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:21:28 UTC No. 16445724
>>16445711
It takes about 350 truckloads for a full launch's LOX and CH4.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:22:05 UTC No. 16445725
>>16445711
They really should build a pipeline.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:26:32 UTC No. 16445731
>>16445358
https://x.com/Astro_Angry/status/18
I thought he had bit of critical thinking, but obviously he is unable to come up with a scenario in mind where such a thing is possible
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:27:25 UTC No. 16445733
>>16445728
Ran and funded by MAGAts
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:33:59 UTC No. 16445738
>>16445731
His argument is retarded. No need to make immigrants vote dem when they do it for free.
I am reminded of the stat that turks living in germany vote for the communists while the same turks voting in turkish elections vote for erdogan.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:38:27 UTC No. 16445744
>>16445733
They literally wrote Black Lives Matter on flight hardware you dumb newfag.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:39:48 UTC No. 16445746
>>16445744
source? thats right you have none
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:40:07 UTC No. 16445747
>>16445728
What the fuck, why is the DoD creaming their pants at rocket availability at Kodiak to the point where they’re willing to bail out a shitty company???
Just give Rocket Lab or Firefly a free Kodiak site or something.
Does Chris Kemp have insanely good insider connections and networking? Is he Chosen or something, oi vey. The fact Astra is still alive despite being the most incompetent company ever is insane
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:41:16 UTC No. 16445749
Uncrewed New Shepard verification flight in 20 mins - 15:00UTC
>https://www.blueorigin.com/live
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:43:01 UTC No. 16445750
>>16445746
https://x.com/Astra/status/13042075
dipshit
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:43:59 UTC No. 16445753
>>16445728
it’d be kinda funny if astra got a redemption arc
>>16445747
44 million dollars is nothing. If they can get another launch provider for it they win and if they can’t it’s not a huge loss.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:46:07 UTC No. 16445754
>>16445753
>it’d be kinda funny if astra got a redemption arc
I’m tired of this word getting thrown around. Redemption arc this, redemption arc that—how about shitty companies like Blue Origin and Astra get what they fucking deserve for once and face the consequences of their (in)action and allegiance to mediocrity
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:46:12 UTC No. 16445755
>>16445746
Why are you so stupid? Anon just proved you wrong with a single image, and it's one everyone on /sfg/ saw years ago already. Why were you so sure that he was wrong? Why were you so confident without even bothering to check first for yourself? Now you look retarded.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:47:08 UTC No. 16445757
>>16445749
Verifying what?
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:47:31 UTC No. 16445758
>>16445755
>>16445750
hey retards, i was fucking with you if calling you MAGAs wasnt obvio enough.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:50:03 UTC No. 16445761
>>16445754
But that wouldn’t be funny.
astra goes under? no big surprise there.
rocket 4 launches once a month? Post the sideways liftoff gif to mock them for their past failings.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:56:27 UTC No. 16445771
>>16445766
FH is a SHLV
but it can’t lift any more than F9
musk’s lies go back a long way.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:56:33 UTC No. 16445772
>>16445766
The explanation is Fraudlon Bust lied to me and I need my diaper changed
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:58:34 UTC No. 16445773
>>16445747
It's because Astra's rockets cost practically nothing. $4 million or whatever to throw up a cube sat is half the price of an Electron, and Astra's vehicles are readily transported by plane to places like Australia. $44 million is jump change to the DoD, and it's a potentially high reward capability.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:01:20 UTC No. 16445775
>>16445747
Kemp definitely has a charisma that beck lacks. Just look at the astra vs rocket lab documentary to see the difference between them.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:05:53 UTC No. 16445780
>>16445775
Beck forgot about mewing
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:07:28 UTC No. 16445783
>>16445779
>exited
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:08:16 UTC No. 16445784
>>16445775
Kemp shares lead paint wherever he goes and that's how he secures the contract.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:08:49 UTC No. 16445785
>>16445779
suborbital, boring
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:11:12 UTC No. 16445788
>>16445785
but have you seen the cool party trick the rocket does where it lands itself?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:12:06 UTC No. 16445790
>>16445757
>an uncrewed verification flight debuting our second human-rated vehicle
Wut. New booster design or new capsule?
Why the fuck are they even still doing dev on this sub- you know what, never mind. Have at it Bezos.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:13:12 UTC No. 16445792
>>16445784
I still can't believe that actually worked.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:13:33 UTC No. 16445793
>>16445785
>>16445788
>>16445790
Its only the very best operational human-rated rocket from America's (currently) second place rocket company has to offer... nothing to see here!
BTW, New Glenn will be operational before Starship, easily beating Falcon 9 & even heavy. Making Blue Origin #1 in the world. THIS YEAR.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:14:20 UTC No. 16445796
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:14:30 UTC No. 16445797
>>16445790
They just fly the new rocket once with nobody on it to make sure it works. Can you imagine riding on a rocket that isn’t flight proven? What an insanely risky idea.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:18:21 UTC No. 16445800
>>16445779
Stream is LIVE!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:19:44 UTC No. 16445802
>>16445657
>"That doesn't look right"
>It's just the rocket tilting a degree off the pad as rockets are supposed to do
Phil the Whine Aunt isn't good at this.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:21:59 UTC No. 16445805
>>16445650
/g/ is worse than thundercuck when it comes to anything Musk. Probably cause it's full of pedos and trannies
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:23:42 UTC No. 16445808
>>16445793
and the kicker with new Glenn is that they will offer launches for ~35 mil. HALF what falcon 9 costs lmao.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:23:58 UTC No. 16445809
>>16445666
>cursed Satan dragon
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:25:13 UTC No. 16445811
>>16445779
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1eaJbaPV
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:25:28 UTC No. 16445813
>>16445808
Thats half falcon 9's price, not half the cost.
Still, at least we'll finally start to see the results of reducing launch costs now that theres some competition.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:26:31 UTC No. 16445814
WHY ARE THESE COCKSUCKERS HOLDING I HATE YOU JEEEEEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFFF!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:27:04 UTC No. 16445815
>>16445779
>>16445811
Sir, this remains a SPACE FLIGHT thread.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:28:44 UTC No. 16445818
>this is the best competitor to Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, and Starship
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:29:34 UTC No. 16445819
>>16445796
Not a dick, faggot.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:29:43 UTC No. 16445820
>>16445815
FYI all starship launches to date have been suborbital
this is basically the same thing (t. thunderfoot)
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:29:46 UTC No. 16445821
>>16445817
It’s not, it’s a money sink lmfao. It’s been confirmed to not turn a profit I have NO CLUE why it hasn’t been cancelled with full resources diverted to New Glenn
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:30:29 UTC No. 16445824
>>16445819
Wrong, that is clearly a phallacy
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:31:27 UTC No. 16445825
>>16445779
>altitude in feet
>speed in mph
>all those technical issues in the stream
SpaceX really does spoil us
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:32:27 UTC No. 16445826
>>16445808
The in-house cost for a Falcon launch is around $15M
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:32:58 UTC No. 16445827
>>16445817
They were only gonna have one but then it exploded, so they had to (?) make another one.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:33:45 UTC No. 16445828
>>16445826
competition will force them to start selling nearer to cost.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:37:20 UTC No. 16445833
>>16445808
That's an introductory price so Bezos can "earn money while testing", something he was quite furious he was not allow to like he claimed SpaceX did with their landing tests.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:38:18 UTC No. 16445834
>>16445833
lol
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:39:41 UTC No. 16445836
>>16445834
$35m for a New Glenn is a massive loss.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:42 UTC No. 16445838
>>16445836
explain how it's a massive loss if they recover the booster?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:41:51 UTC No. 16445841
>>16445838
They ain't recovering shit on the first launch. They're not even going to make orbit.
They have NEVER launched anything but a glorified sounding rocket.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:42:55 UTC No. 16445842
>>16445766
Boy, do I have the perfect Eager Space video for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNF
tl;dw they're so focused on making the Raptor simpler and more powerful to reduce weight and gain thrust, and they want a bigger rocket to carry more propellant, also more thrust lets them get into orbit more quickly. There's a fancy graph showing how much delta v changes affect the Starship payload compared to Falcon 9
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:43:21 UTC No. 16445843
SpaceX supporters in this thread are utter clowns.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:46:42 UTC No. 16445846
>>16445843
>SpaceX supporters
If you like space you support SpaceX, it's that simple
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:48:31 UTC No. 16445847
>>16445846
>Support Elmo the clown just because of a hobby you have
No.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:48:48 UTC No. 16445848
>>16445843
>SpaceX supporters
Is there some other kind, you wretched women?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:49:54 UTC No. 16445850
I am a little worried about a Blue Origin that can get to orbit. SpaceX needed and needs to be profitable, Blue Origin doesn't and won't. They have infinite money. Elon is rich from a rocket company, Bezos is rich already and can dump it into a rocket company forever. They could sell launches for $59.99 if they really wanted. A shit rocket company completely destroying a good rocket company would not be good.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:51:03 UTC No. 16445852
>>16445847
>infantile name calling
This is perfect trolling, that's exactly what they sound like
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:52:06 UTC No. 16445853
>>16445850
What's the point of running a non-profitable company if there's no strategy to eventually become profitable though? Seems like a pointless flex to launch stuff at a loss indefinitely, even if you're a gigabillionaire and don't gain any joy from anything else anymore
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:54:14 UTC No. 16445856
>>16445850
Thunderf00t is right that SpaceX price gouge massively and haven't passed the price benefits of reusability on to the consumer. They lowered prices a lot when F9 first started flying recovered boosters, but then prices went back up to cream off as much money as possible.
If Space launch becomes a barely profitable venture for SpaceX then they won't be able to afford to develop superheavy lift launch vehicles.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:55:01 UTC No. 16445857
>>16445853
Sell at a loss until your competition goes out of business then utilize monopoly status to jack up prices. Doesn’t work for rocket companies as the DoD will do anything to keep competition afloat.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:59:27 UTC No. 16445863
>>16445862
No difference, do whatever's more convenient for you.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:59:42 UTC No. 16445865
>>16445862
Early. The rigging happens day of or the last day or two before and relies on "turnout headroom" of people who haven't already voted. Do it today if you can.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:00:55 UTC No. 16445869
>>16445857
They can sabotage rival companies ability to develop new launch vehicles even if the company won't go bankrupt outright. There is a worst case scenario where Starship completely fails and SpaceX goes bankrupt so has to abandon Starship development. They get bailed out by the government but are ghettoized to Starlink and DOD missions using the now uncompetitive F9 and F9 heavy. Then blue develops new Armstrong and SpaceX is in an even worse spot.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:03:15 UTC No. 16445871
>>16445856
That's my concern. SpaceX is in the unique position of having a money printer and motivated engineers, and if that goes away we lose Mars colonization.
>>16445853
Bezos doesn't need it to be profitable. Your bimbo's plastic surgery and your yacht upkeep aren't even close to enough to expend a hundred billion dollars. He hates Elon Musk. His motivation in space isn't O'Neil cylinders, it's beating Musk
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:03:48 UTC No. 16445873
>>16445865
Ill go on the weekend.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:04:36 UTC No. 16445874
>>16445869
the success of super heavy already gives spacex the ability to launch 100 tons of 9m payloads with a disposable second stage. that is the worst scenario which is still miles ahead of all competitors.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:05:46 UTC No. 16445876
I'M COMING TO BAT FOR YOU ELON!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:07:39 UTC No. 16445879
>>16445871
>His motivation in space isn't O'Neil cylinders, it's beating Musk
I don't think this is true, or at least not totally true.
Remember that bezos did star BO before musk started spacex, everything I've heard about bezos said that everything he's ever done has been leading up to making a rocket company and he's a huge fan of sci-fi.
If his primary motivation now is beating musk, it's not because he hates him, it's because musk beat him to becoming the 'space guy" bezos always conceived himself to be.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:08:08 UTC No. 16445880
>>16445874
sucess of superheavy is likely at this point but not guaranteed.
it took years from first landing for spacex to make f9 refurbishable in a practical way. superheavy will need a lot of work to get there, and presently they don't even have an easily refurbishable launch pad for the thing
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:10:17 UTC No. 16445882
>>16445871
I’d like to see the true, honest-to-God inside numbers. I doubt anyone (even spacex) truly expect to ever be meaningfully cash positive just by building rockets and offering launches.
NASA and DoD contracts only get you so far, and offering commercial launches to the open market is a dumb balance of “how much can I overcharge” vs “who needs to fly and has the money to fly anyways”.
Starlink is the real game changer, I think. It turns the whole damn thing into one big profitable business. Let’s contrast to ULA, for example–who are looking to sell. Who tf would want of buy ULA knowing their business model is
>NSSL launches
>offering commercial launches
And that’s IT… you have to pay for engines, you have to pay to build your single-use rockets, you have to pay rent at all your facilities, you have to pay for ground equipment and their transportation boat fleet, and you have to pay payroll. Launching private customers once every few months isn’t going to cut it.
Oh you also need investors but they want something back out of it so.
Anyways this is all to say that without Starlink, even SX would probably be burning cash. Starlink actually makes the whole damn thing worth it and offers a way to put “money under the mattress” to save for future r&d or Mars or whatever you want
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:10:39 UTC No. 16445883
>>16445880
If Harris wins its actually over.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:11:59 UTC No. 16445886
>>16445879
I think we agree. Musk is going to be remembered as the scifi space billionaire genius, and not Bezos. Bezos is already 60. BO did nothing for 25 years. It's already over. All he has is resentment left, suing through environmental groups, suing outright, underhandedly competing on contracts for launchers and lander's that don't exist.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:13:57 UTC No. 16445887
>>16445882
We're on the same page, but BO's answer to Starlink is Kuiper and we're back at the start. BO can run at an absurd loss forever, no loans or shareholders to pay back, just money burned. They could offer free space internet for a decade
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:14:17 UTC No. 16445888
those from the early days of falcon may remember orbital sciences aka orbital atk who were spacexes rival in the COTS program. crazy how they got liquidated for just over 7 billion, meanwhile spacex is worth 200 billion.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:14:45 UTC No. 16445890
Blue has objectively the worst streams in a whole aerospace industry.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:17:40 UTC No. 16445896
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18488
Hiroshima was the first city to be nuked.
London will be the first to to be hit by a lunar mass driver
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:18:13 UTC No. 16445897
>>16445886
The whole step by step ferociously thing is what SpaceX actually does. BO does many steps at once timidly.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:18:32 UTC No. 16445898
>>16445887
Yup. New Shepard alone is proof of it. Generates no money, but Bezos has obviously made it clear that it’s some sort of priority. I have no idea why (maybe he wants the optics of ‘oh look we do human rocket flights so we are serious’ or something who knows)
And yup he has deep pockets and will be willing to undercut SX because of it. Which, I will argue, kind of has a silver lining of keeping SpaceX in check and ensuring SX chases cheap rockets and cheap launch costs and doesn’t get complacent.
But it’s unsustainable for Blue Origin.
Jeff is chasing optics; Musk has been chasing the Mars project for like 20 years now and wants it to be as cheap and realistic as possible.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:18:40 UTC No. 16445899
>>16445887
maybe you forgot, but Musk owns 6 companies, all of them multibillion and Tesla has a real possibility of becoming the most valuable company ever
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:22:29 UTC No. 16445907
>>16445899
>Tesla has a real possibility of becoming the most valuable company ever
I’m not necessarily anti-electric and I’d say I’m a 2 (that is to say, I like Musk a whole lot) but this makes me seethe. Tesla isn’t THAT impressive lmao. I don’t love him enough to buy a shitty tesla
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:24:01 UTC No. 16445910
>>16445899
Electric cars are a technological dead end and Tesla is not an industry leader in robotics or AI
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:24:47 UTC No. 16445912
>>16444587
>>16444701
you're both retarded
rent free
I told you already that I don't make threads.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:25:06 UTC No. 16445913
>>16445910
You are a genetic dead end
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:25:20 UTC No. 16445914
>>16445910
lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:25:28 UTC No. 16445915
>>16445883
As much as I want SpaceX to succeed Trump winning absolutely means Ukraine loses its much needed funding. I don't mind if SpaceX takes an extra year or two to get to the moon that's still beating China by a large marge.
And as we just saw this week the democrats actually seem willing to work with Musk if enough pressure is applied so it might not even be different under kamala anyway.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:27:20 UTC No. 16445917
>>16445916
he is from Troon
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:28:12 UTC No. 16445920
>>16445910
Definitely not a technological dead end, and I hate tesla cars but they’re probably going to lead AI and robotics so
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:28:21 UTC No. 16445921
>>16445915
posted it again award
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:28:32 UTC No. 16445922
>>16445915
>Ukraine
Fuck off
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:28:49 UTC No. 16445923
>>16445887
Kuiper is Amazon, not BO. That's only cash positive if Amazon acquires them.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:29:33 UTC No. 16445924
>>16445915
I'd catch my booster there if you know what I mean
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:30:14 UTC No. 16445925
>>16445924
I dont. Elaborate.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:30:25 UTC No. 16445926
>>16445915
Why do you want more bloodshed, Anon?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:31:02 UTC No. 16445927
>>16445917
Its true, he is from the Land of Troons
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:32:18 UTC No. 16445929
>>16445923
seriously what is Blue Origin’s business model after Jeff Bezos isn’t around anymore? Jeff is 60. This means BO only has 20, 25ish more years statistically of a free bankroll and after that it’s just like everyone else
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:32:46 UTC No. 16445931
>>16445915
Ukraine is losing more than money right now. The longer the war goes, the more it has a chance of escalating and going global. The war needs to be cooled/stopped at all cost. If you care about Mars/SpaceX, then you would want to negotiate a deal between Russia/Ukraine. Same with China/Taiwan. WW3 is stupid way to die out.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:33:10 UTC No. 16445932
>>16445925
I would slap my dingdong between those bazookas
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:34:10 UTC No. 16445933
>>16444973
>only 6-10 football fields of solar panels to refuel a fuckhuge starship
...what's the problem?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:34:40 UTC No. 16445934
>>16445932
malfunctioning AI? That's not even a picture from WW2. What bazookas are involved?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:35:49 UTC No. 16445935
>>16445923
it doesn’t really matter because it’s money that goes to jeff which he can then funnel back into blue. Maybe not as efficiently as starlink but it’s still funds for blue.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:35:51 UTC No. 16445936
>>16445766
>20 tons
Is spaceguy5 coping with Flight 5 by spreading more misinfo?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:36:03 UTC No. 16445938
>>16445929
Guys on this much steroids and HGH don't live to 85, I don't care what doctors you have. He traded lifespan for lifestyle. I'd be shocked if he even has a decade.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:38:15 UTC No. 16445941
>>16445808
Blue is not offering New Glenn launches foe $35 million.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:42:17 UTC No. 16445944
>>16445936
Think about it.
Shuttle and Starship have similar sized fuel tanks and stage from their boosters at a similar point in flight. Shuttle uses hydrome so has way better specific impulse, plus the entire ET isn't made from stainless steel or covered in heavy ceramic tiles.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:44:44 UTC No. 16445949
>>16445938
when he outlines musk your jaw will drop. watch out for the rooftops this week.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:45:48 UTC No. 16445952
>>16445934
bazookas are rocket launchers
rockets are /sfg/ related
therefore Ellie's fat tits are perfectly on topic
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:47:53 UTC No. 16445955
> Whereas Boeing lost $1.4 billion in Q2, it reported a net loss of $6.1 billion for Q3, with free cash flow negative by nearly two billion dollars, and lots of missed analyst expectations.
And so much for Starliner.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:49:09 UTC No. 16445958
>>16445725
They tried but environmental permits were shot down
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:49:46 UTC No. 16445962
>>16445955
This year?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:51:17 UTC No. 16445968
>>16445962
I don't know, I just asked chatGPT and those were the numbers it gave me
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:52:19 UTC No. 16445970
>>16445962
More recent quarter. Boeing announced them this am before the conference call later today. $6 billion loss in a single quarter.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:52:26 UTC No. 16445972
>>16445962
YES
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:53:31 UTC No. 16445974
>>16445968
Pretending to be other posters now? So you've gone completely insane.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:54:53 UTC No. 16445977
>>16445970
>>16445972
How long can boing take such loses before they just die?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 16:59:05 UTC No. 16445981
>>16445974
I don't know who you think I am, I just thought it would be funny.
>>16445979
Neither are true but you're welcome to reenact your image
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:00:22 UTC No. 16445983
>>16445977
They just dliuted their stock to raise cash so they can continue for a few more years like this. Chapter 11 after that, but unlikely to just go away any time soon due to national security implications.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:04:29 UTC No. 16445984
>>16445980
There's likely an argument put forward that it's an NG issue and not a Vulcan issue so go ahead and certify.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:05:16 UTC No. 16445985
>>16445977
Boeing will be fine, as long as their spacecraft don't start randomly exploding.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:05:26 UTC No. 16445986
>>16445944
I think you are a faggot and if you aren't trolling, I'm sure you are going to keep moving those goalposts
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:06:50 UTC No. 16445989
>>16445980
won't somebody think of the sharks and whales
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:07:10 UTC No. 16445990
>>16445984
Nozzles falling off Vulcan is a New Glenn issue?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:07:53 UTC No. 16445993
>>16445944
Shittle didn't have a first stage like Super Heavy
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:09:03 UTC No. 16445996
>>16445990
Northrop Grumman made the solids
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:09:28 UTC No. 16445997
>use the least charitable mass estimates of an unoptimized prototype
>deliberately run these numbers against the less powerful and heavier prototype engine
>make a chart that supports whatever conclusion you want
>heh looks like you don't have mass to orbit
every time
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:10:40 UTC No. 16445999
>>16445944
shuttle must come back because it's always crewed. super heavy's second stage has other options.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:11:44 UTC No. 16446002
I don’t know what Musk is smoking with the idea to drop to 3 gridfins on superheavy. He’s said before that they meed more control authority in one direction than the other, and there’s not a great way to get that with 3 fins. If it turns out theyre overbuilt and they want to save weight, shrink the 4 and the motors controlling them.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:12:07 UTC No. 16446004
>>16445996
Ah -- see what you meant. Vulcan has final responsibility for everything .We didn't make that part we used doesn't change that. A demonstrated 25% SRB critical failure rate is a pretty big problem.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:14:34 UTC No. 16446008
>>16445990
Northrop Grumman, if I'm DoD I probably accept ULA's argument since they succeeded in spite of NG's booster shitting the bed. There's nothing they can change on Vulcan to address the issue.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:14:59 UTC No. 16446009
>>16446004
The failure wasn’t critical.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:16:35 UTC No. 16446013
>>16445984
>Aerojet Rocketdyne made the thrusters, therefore it isn't Boeing's issue, so go ahead and certify Starliner.
Boeing probably unironically trying this.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:18:14 UTC No. 16446016
>>16446002
I wonder if they will try going back to three landing legs on Falcon.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:19:47 UTC No. 16446019
>>16446016
Hell no, not with the hoverslam snapping a leg causing the loss of a 20+ flight booster. Maybe they add one
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:20:50 UTC No. 16446024
>>16446008
All is Vulcan. The SRB are integral.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:21:37 UTC No. 16446027
>>16445910
what's next then, oh wise one? seeing as combustion vehicles are already hugely declining
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:22:07 UTC No. 16446030
>>16446013
I think new CEO wants to kill it and is why we've heard so little. But otherwise they probably do, yet in Boeings they also gave Aerojet the specificiations for the design. I don't think that is the case with the GEM 63XL.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:23:05 UTC No. 16446033
>>16446009
> Nozzles fall off all the time.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:25:09 UTC No. 16446035
>>16445944
(you) would he interested to know that even FH with a measly kerolox upper stage performs better past LEO than Blue Origin’s upcoming “efficient” hydrolox GS2 beast of an upper stage—because factoring in huge tankage + insulation mass eats all the benefits. Hydrolox is useless. There are zero advantages besides high isp on your spreadsheet and clean engines, negated if you can do ORSC with kerosene which the USA couldn’t do which is the only reason they perused hydrogen engines
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:26:05 UTC No. 16446036
> Boeing lost $6 billion on $17 billion in revenue.
Pretty impressive.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:27:05 UTC No. 16446038
>>16446033
The rocket can lose a few parts if it wants. As long as it gets to the target orbit it’s all the same.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:32:58 UTC No. 16446042
>>16445983
The stock dilution only got them 25 billion, if they lose 6 bil every quarter then they won't last a year.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:34:38 UTC No. 16446043
>>16446038
The allegations that the rocket is just designed to deliver as much delta-v a possible and to hell with the consequences, that’s ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous. Those are very, very strong casings.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:40:14 UTC No. 16446048
>>16446036
>CFO Brian West said the company expects to burn more cash in the fourth quarter, that the company expects negative free cash flow for full-year 2025
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:41:09 UTC No. 16446050
>>16446048
TBD
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:42:12 UTC No. 16446052
>>16446048
>stock price barely moves
ffs, die already
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:42:18 UTC No. 16446053
>>16446009
The only reason it "wasn't critical" was because Vulcan was flying with essentially no payload. Cert-2 lost something like 20-30% of it's payload capacity when that SRB popped.
https://x.com/torybruno/status/1827
>We were approached by several serious customers, but they were unfortunately too late to catch a September CERT2 launch. So, in addition to the mass simulator, there will be several experiments to support advanced technology insertions planned for Centaur V in the future
"Advanced technology insertions" probably meant deep space maneuvers following SECO and a long loiter period. There was no sign that these ever took place because they had to burn through all of the deltaV they had just to hit their initial target orbit.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:42:25 UTC No. 16446054
>>16446036
>Boeing hasn’t had a profitable year since 2018
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:42:33 UTC No. 16446056
Did you guys hear Dumpy likes hitler? Hes gonna put us all in martian concentration camps!!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:43:27 UTC No. 16446057
>>16446052
Priced in
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:44:45 UTC No. 16446059
>>16445912
which is why you...went out of your way to respond a thread later to defend the person that did?
your story doesn't add up anon.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:45:29 UTC No. 16446061
Reminder, Musk will pollute Mars with CO2.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:46:03 UTC No. 16446062
>>16446035
New Glenn can lift twice the mass to LEO that Falcon Heavy can but needs a third stage to become a high energy rocket.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:46:21 UTC No. 16446063
>>16445931
starting ww3 because your neighbours wouldn't let you have land is quite petty and retarded and should never be taken seriously under any circumstance, we all deserve annihalation if russians and by association humanity is that gay.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:46:27 UTC No. 16446064
>>16446061
And then gas us with it in his and Rumps lunar and martian concentration camps
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:47:22 UTC No. 16446065
>>16445926
i don't know anon, why doesn't russia leave ukraine right now? they invaded, they can leave any time.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:47:56 UTC No. 16446066
>>16446062
And guess what a third stage does to that LEO metric…
New Glenn is so dumb
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:47:58 UTC No. 16446067
>>16446065
Juice
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:48:17 UTC No. 16446068
There's a faggot b8posting itt
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:49:27 UTC No. 16446069
>>16446068
Could you point out the posts to us
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:49:59 UTC No. 16446070
>>16446056
You're going to need to do a lot better than that
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:51:36 UTC No. 16446074
reminder that falcon heavy gets 63,8 tons to leo and those that cope by pointing out the maximum load of the payload adapter forget that it states right next to that to contact spacex if you heavier payload because they will come up with a beefed up adapter literally overnight to suit your mission.
falcon heavy is a superheavy launch vehicle, you are free to seethe at this factoid.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:51:38 UTC No. 16446075
>>16446070
Found who this >>16446068 anon was talking about
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:52:55 UTC No. 16446077
>>16446069
yeah this one >>16446062
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:53:14 UTC No. 16446078
>>16446074
Wow, sixty three comma eight whole tons???
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:53:18 UTC No. 16446079
>>16446063
>we all
You can volunteer to neck yourself. Mars is the only goal here.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:54:10 UTC No. 16446082
>>16446078
yes, or 63.800 kg
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:55:11 UTC No. 16446084
>>16446079
can't get to mars if we just let thirdie shitholes step all over foreign policy and ruin supply chains.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:55:24 UTC No. 16446085
>>16446082
That’s like 140 lbs, what a shitty rocket
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:55:31 UTC No. 16446086
>>16446016
>>16446019
They aren't going to mess with the design of falcon this far into starship
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:57:07 UTC No. 16446087
>>16446085
no, 63.800 kg is the same as 63,8 metric tons
are you arithmetically challenged by any chance?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:57:36 UTC No. 16446088
>>16446086
Not those anons, and perhaps nothing major, but they’re still going to fix things that need fixing - and will continue to do so for another 10, 15 years
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:58:56 UTC No. 16446089
>>16446074
>they will come up with a beefed up adapter literally overnight to suit your mission
I buy that but I still don’t buy the 63 number. Maybe 25 or 30. At triple what f9 is asked to support you’re going to star running into other failure points.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:00:38 UTC No. 16446091
>>16446089
what you "buy" is not relevant, 63 and then some is the payload to LEO and that's final, there is not argueing with this, they advertise this to customers, if a costumer comes up with a payload that heavy and goes to spacex and they deny, they can hang spacex on the publicity hook for all to see, there is literally no reason or incentive to lie about this.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:01:17 UTC No. 16446092
>>16446089
They can do it
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:04:48 UTC No. 16446097
>>16446084
I'd rather let Russia nuke entire Europe out of existence than let US be dragged into an extinction war before Mars colony is setup. If EU tries to pull us in, I'd vote for a party to nuke Europe pre-emptively instead.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:07:06 UTC No. 16446100
>>16446097
>extinction war
it's not much of a war when you're dealing with russia, it's pretty much a rotting corpse at this point.
basically committing suicide by cop in ukraine is testament to this.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:07:20 UTC No. 16446102
>>16446097
Kek
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:10:09 UTC No. 16446103
>>16446097
uhh, based? end ESA's suffering pls
t. yurpoor
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:11:45 UTC No. 16446105
>>16446097
I've always argued we should nuke china as a warning to Russia. They'd eternally back down from fear, changs would be gone and we'd all have some sort of peace.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:11:59 UTC No. 16446106
>>16446097
Russia takes all of Europe, China takes all of Asia, US takes all of the Americas, Africa stays a primitive shithole that nobody sends anything into. Now its just 3 major players in the world and everybody can agree to keep to themselves other than for trade. Now Mars colony can flourish with world peace. There, everything has been solved, solution is nuke Europe, American isolationism and conquest.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:13:04 UTC No. 16446107
>>16446097
>Appeasement
Ahh because that never backfires
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:14:07 UTC No. 16446109
>>16446107
Take to a different board, faggot.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:15:38 UTC No. 16446112
>>16446097
Yeah I'm with you
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:15:41 UTC No. 16446113
>>16446106
>for all mankind timeline
I want a best korean mars gf
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:20:40 UTC No. 16446114
>>16446106
>russia takes all of europe
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:21:55 UTC No. 16446116
>>16446109
i think i'll stay on this board thank you, weren't we all agreeing that appeasement is bad and when someone kicks you, you should kick back harder?
might as well give in to kamela's demands with that attitude, elon should appease the democrats then right?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:22:43 UTC No. 16446119
>>16446114
I am proposing a timeline where everyone fucks off and thats only possible with the impossibility of Russia taking Yurope. Your /k/ is showing, pig.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:24:03 UTC No. 16446121
https://x.com/Boeing/status/1849050
>Today, Boeing President and CEO Kelly Ortberg shares his views on the challenges we face and our focus going forward. Read his third quarter message here:
https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-r
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:27:18 UTC No. 16446125
>>16446121
A company is it's employees. I just don't see them turning it around. What could they do to bring qualified people to Boeing, instead of the obvious alternatives? I'm drawing a blank.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:28:10 UTC No. 16446126
>>16446059
Why do you assume I'm defending anything?
>IFT-5
Complaining about 5 /sfg/ threads in the catalogue because of your "image limit" autism is warranted. I wasn't the first to complain about it, nor the last.
literally just stop posting le animu pepe clockwork orange shed reaction images that are off topic and it wouldn't be an issue
>respond a thread later
I don't lurk this general all day every day.
Moreover, if I were "failstaging" to thread split and troll I wouldn't even respond to your impotent bitching about your personal boogeyman.
>>16446106
>>16446097
trust me when I say these types would be the prime candidates to run any Mars colony into the ground within five years
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:29:53 UTC No. 16446129
>>16446125
Well for starters they're getting rid of thousands of managers and DEI hires
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:30:37 UTC No. 16446131
>>16446121
focused on exploding satellites
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:30:47 UTC No. 16446132
>>16446119
>randomly mentions /k/
>pig
????
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:31:19 UTC No. 16446133
>>16446121
how about you reveal the names of those who coordinated hits on the whistleblowers instead
then we can put them to the executioner's block, and you can work on rehabilitating your "legacy" after their heads literally roll
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:32:14 UTC No. 16446134
>>16446126
>image limit
uhh who do you think i am, retard? i agree with staging at image limit, what are you on about?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:33:19 UTC No. 16446135
>>16446126
Good thing I dont want to run the Mars colony or any body of government and I had made up a ridiculous situation for goofs which obviously wasnt meant to be taken seriously.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:34:49 UTC No. 16446138
>>16446134
>i agree with staging at image limit
then you should be directing your antipathy at the retards posting meme reaction images instead of content, instead of phantom /pol/ crossposters that simply don't exist
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:35:06 UTC No. 16446139
>le animu pepe clockwork orange shed reaction images
What is this
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:35:43 UTC No. 16446140
>>16446126
>literally just stop posting le animu pepe clockwork orange shed reaction images that are off topic and it wouldn't be an issue
no
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:36:03 UTC No. 16446141
>>16446138
>phantom /pol/ crossposters that simply don't exist
they do, and they're everywhere since that one crossboarder advertized this place to everyone.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:36:49 UTC No. 16446142
back to back to back to back to back Raptor relight test (possible Raptor 3) 5 consecutive short burst relights . Enjoy
https://x.com/i/status/184914922918
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:38:10 UTC No. 16446144
>>16446135
it's not a ridiculous situation
we are literally closer to nuclear war ATM than at any point since the 80s
or worse, a new industrial forever war conflict of genetic and cultural erasure that wouldn't escalate into a nuclear war because it's literally part of the "elite" program to cull the plebs and reap the profits of their death
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:39:01 UTC No. 16446145
>>16446142
Real question is, what will Raptor 4 look like? How many pipes can they eliminate?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:39:26 UTC No. 16446147
>>16446142
Super sexy raptor
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:40:18 UTC No. 16446149
>>16446139
see >>16446034 >>16445979 >>16445952 >>16445938 >>16445927 >>16445915
literally every one of these images are irrelevant to thread topic
>>16446141
you're an idiot
fuck off back to bed now
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:40:33 UTC No. 16446150
>>16446114
If Russia had some balls and went full Afghanistan to fix their fertility issue. They could literally just walk into Europe and claim it in 30 years.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:41:27 UTC No. 16446152
>>16446074
A friendly reminder that Falcon Heavy is a high energy Falcon 9 and not a SHLV.
Falcon Heavy has the performance to lift more mass to LEO than the Falcon 9 but the second stage used by both rockets is not structurally capable of lifting 60+ tons of payload regardless of the adaptor.
The PPE/HALO Gateway modules are the upper limit of what Falcon Heavy can deliver to orbit.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:41:32 UTC No. 16446153
>>16446126
>trust me when I say these types would be the prime candidates to run any Mars colony into the ground within five years
>i want a martian governor who would rather let Mars die because of Earther politics than focus on Mars itself
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:42:40 UTC No. 16446154
>>16446145
I think Raptor 3 is like Merlin 1C . Great evolution respect to the older versions (1B and 1A ) both in reliability and power. Raptor 4 will be like todays Merlin 1D , even more power, extremely reliable, easily reusable , etc .
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:47:00 UTC No. 16446157
>>16446114
you might laugh but if their military wasn't so abysmally corrupt they actually could have done it two years ago
the EU is a laughingstock, every major NATO country in Europe has been deliberately neglecting their military obligations for decades in the name of funneling migrants in and giving them free shit
they think the USA gravy train supplements can just go on forever and their voters are either too retarded, greedy, or complicit to realize that simply isn't true
if shit were to pop off now there are enormous swathes of the US population who would simply refuse to fight for the feds or for Europe and would face the consequences
oops, domestic policy has consequences SNS
>>16446153
>martian governor
wow, so you simply have no idea how any Mars colony would govern itself huh
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:50:14 UTC No. 16446163
>>16446142
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/statu
Another angle
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:50:42 UTC No. 16446164
>>16446142
HOLY SHIT
THEY HAVE BEEN FIRING AND REFIRING THE ENGINE 20 TIMES THUS FAR ...IN A ROW ...NON STOP ...
RAPTOR 3 MY BELOVED I LOVE YOU SO MUCH
https://x.com/i/status/184915874067
https://x.com/i/status/184915874067
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:50:54 UTC No. 16446165
>>16446142
They just did 30something relights back to back
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:51:58 UTC No. 16446166
>>16446121
Dawg your company is down BAD if your CEO is talking about the glory of the “former legacy” lmfao
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:53:51 UTC No. 16446169
>>16446164
Big deal, I've lit my methane stove hundreds of times
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:54:01 UTC No. 16446170
raptor reliability bros…. I’m not feeling so good….
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:56:04 UTC No. 16446172
Damn, respect.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:56:56 UTC No. 16446173
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:59:32 UTC No. 16446175
If flight 6 is a do over of flight 5 with an in space engine relight they can probably do it pretty early in november with no license delays.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:01:06 UTC No. 16446176
>>16446168
This type of relight capability is necessary for dominance of the space
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:03:14 UTC No. 16446178
>>16446175
I think you are correct.
>image to anger the spastic
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:03:25 UTC No. 16446179
>Full flow staged combustion engines are the hardest to light because blah blah blah
>SpX does 35 relights in a row until they understand how even the last dropplet of fuel behaves
We keep winning
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:03:29 UTC No. 16446180
>>16446175
Replacing tiles alone puts it in the 2nd half of November.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:09:51 UTC No. 16446187
>>16446186
I smell cope
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:14:18 UTC No. 16446190
>>16446164
>>16446168
>elon: how many times in a row can raptor be relit?
>engineer: uhhh....
>very unpleasant convo ensues
And now they know and the engineer will get to keep his job.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:14:20 UTC No. 16446191
>>16446178
nice picture anon
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:16:36 UTC No. 16446194
>>16446191
Thanks I stole if from you.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:19:12 UTC No. 16446196
>>16446149
Jeff Bezos is as relevant to spaceflight as Elon Musk so my picture is relevant to the thread topic
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:29:06 UTC No. 16446205
Notice how the stooge shuts his mouth when he realizes how stupid he sounds after anons start making fun of him
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:30:09 UTC No. 16446207
>>16446152
>reminder of my fantasy that exists inside my head
it is by definition a superheavy launch vehicle as it can launch superheavy payloads in the range of 50-100 tons
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:32:05 UTC No. 16446210
>>16446207
It has to be able to launch 50+ tons into LEO to be a SHLV, it can only launch ~20 tons.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:32:53 UTC No. 16446212
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:36:23 UTC No. 16446214
>>16446164
the mogging is so hard, there's many jet engines that cannot relight in flight that often.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:36:59 UTC No. 16446215
>>16446213
you could cope about BE-4 not running full thrust or something
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:37:21 UTC No. 16446216
>>16446213
Raptor is only half the weight of Be-4 yet it’s curb stomping Blue Origin in every single metric
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:37:33 UTC No. 16446217
We have seen a lot of parts from Block 2 Ships (Ship 33 is basically ready , Ship 34 is almost ready), but we have barely seen Booster Block 2.
If you were in charge of Booster Block 2 upgrades, what would you change / upgrade (realistically, do now say drop dry mass to 100t when todays booster weights 240tons )
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:40:45 UTC No. 16446220
>>16445821
Here's something:
https://x.com/davill/status/1849131
>This morning’s New Shepard NS-27 flight not only debuted our second human-rated vehicle for the program but also sent 12 payloads to space and back. Five of our Blue programs were involved with this mission, and I wanted to highlight two of them here—NS Navi and lidar for our lunar program. NS Navi is our new launch vehicle navigator. It flew for the first time on the crew capsule as the primary navigation system and on the booster for performance evaluation. The system is scalable architecture to support both New Shepard and New Glenn. We also tested two different lidar (light detection and ranging) sensors for our Lunar Permanence program. We are validating their performance in the range and speed envelope in a way that is similar to what our MK1 lunar landing trajectory will be. This testing will help ensure that the onboard navigation system can precisely and softly land on the lunar surface.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:41:35 UTC No. 16446221
>>16446186
schizo meltdown
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:42:34 UTC No. 16446222
>>16446220
okay so testing stuff for their lunar lander, makes sense I guess
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:44:38 UTC No. 16446223
>>16446210
no, it has the capability, therefore it is able, therefore it is SHLV.
it can launch 63 tons.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:49:16 UTC No. 16446232
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:49:43 UTC No. 16446233
>>16445063
>Iceships
I Neel
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:50:09 UTC No. 16446234
>>16446222
It's not going to ever get them their dev budget back (unless they start flying several times a month and open that second launch site in Saudi Arabia that they were talking about) but it is a good platform for working on propulsive landings. If New Glenn does managed to stick its first landing it'll be because of work done with New Shepard. Blue might not get that much revenue from passengers and payloads on NS but they do get reputational prestige from those missions that shouldn't be discounted, no matter how much /sfg/ loves shitting on suborbital launches.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:51:59 UTC No. 16446237
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:52:08 UTC No. 16446238
>Biome
On Earth, biomes serve to organize or classify communities of plants and animals that share key characteristics of their environment. The biome framing calls attention to those aspects of our portfolio that deal directly with the human body and the communities of microbes that will accompany us on our early space voyages.
>Envirome
Our Envirome research integrates creative interior design, industrial design of day-to-day artifacts, health and wellbeing diagnostics, and environmental stimuli to support inhabitant flourishing.This research platform builds towards a near-future where space-faring humans can both survive and thrive wherever the future takes us.
>Exobiome
Outside the meticulously crafted shells that will ferry our fragile human biology through the extreme environment of space, we find an expansive domain to explore. SEI has just scratched the surface of the exobiome — that which lies just outside or beyond our vision for life in space.
>Flight Missions
The Space Exploration Initiative takes an iterative approach to prototyping — from parabolic flights, to suborbital launches, to the International Space Station and the surface of the moon.
>Parabolic Flights
Parabolic flights enable researchers across the Media Lab, MIT, and outside collaborators to test projects in microgravity.
>Suborbital Flights
Suborbital flights flown by Blue Origin provide suborbital research access for the MIT community.
>International Space Station
International Space Station missions allow researchers to study the effects of zero-g, radiation, and launch loads on their hardware.
>Lunar Missions
Cross-Institute lunar missions are being coordinated by both SEI and MIT AeroAstro to launch payload experiments designed for lunar environments.
>MIT Space Exploration Initiative
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:52:59 UTC No. 16446239
>>16446238
ChatGPT
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:53:47 UTC No. 16446241
>Suborbital flights flown by Blue Origin
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:54:48 UTC No. 16446242
>>16446239
you're fucking retarded
how many times do I have to say it
I copied all that shit from their own website last night and have been waiting till you ridiculous morons shit the bed to spam it.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:55:48 UTC No. 16446244
>>16446173
>BE-4 after one relight
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:56:01 UTC No. 16446245
>>16446242
What this is the first time Ive replied to you.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:57:08 UTC No. 16446248
>>16446245
Lol he thought you were me
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:58:18 UTC No. 16446251
I heard this was the zionist general for sucking yiddish cock and worshipping Kikelon Jewsk?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:58:30 UTC No. 16446252
>>16446223
I think Falcon Heavy is more limited by fairing volume than payload mass. A 63,000 kg object that could fit into a standard fairing would be extremely dense for a spaceflight payload.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 19:59:59 UTC No. 16446253
>>16445125
>頭の大盛
kek
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:00:40 UTC No. 16446254
>>16446252
that's absolutely true and i agree.
i'm just sick of people twisting reality and claiming that it can't carry that weight because they "feel" like that's unrealistic, as if their feelings have any say in the matter.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:02:13 UTC No. 16446258
>>16446217
Add tribal decals
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:03:24 UTC No. 16446261
https://x.com/NASAArtemis/status/18
>Welcome to the Artemis Accords, Cyprus. The Republic of Cyprus has become the 46th nation to commit to the peaceful and safe exploration of space. Ad astra!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:04:18 UTC No. 16446263
>>16445289
$8 / day was significantly more than it cost the average american family to buy groceries in the 1970s
just like now, giving them money is the same as just throwing it away
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:04:40 UTC No. 16446265
>>16445303
needs thinner waist and bigger ass
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:05:11 UTC No. 16446266
>>16446217
Do something so that grid fins don't get warped after hotstaging
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:05:19 UTC No. 16446267
>>16446248
>>16446245
both of you are retards
that's why I have to keep saying it
god damn, how far this board has fallen
and to think there was a time, long ago but not that much all considered, when it made me feel retarded instead
not anymore, sad to say
many such cases
you will meticulously sterilize your fermentation equipment per TRISH regulations
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:06:38 UTC No. 16446270
>>16446266
they don't get warped after hotstaging, who convinced you of this?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:06:55 UTC No. 16446271
>>16446264
as someone who knows next to nothing about rocketry, that really is impressive and fills me with determination
maybe one day I can be that reliable too
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:09:07 UTC No. 16446275
>>16446265
That doesn't make any sense
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:09:13 UTC No. 16446277
Orbital refuelling is going to be so fucking kino
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:10:13 UTC No. 16446278
>>16446270
https://x.com/r3a9an_k_/status/1848
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:12:07 UTC No. 16446281
>>16446277
? It’s like the most boring part and pretty much everyone softly agrees that it should be cut and dry. Unless you’re talking about the back-to-back launches and tower catches required to make it go off quickly
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:12:49 UTC No. 16446282
>>16445673
you are now aware that 学 (xue2) means both to study and to mimic or imitate
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:13:51 UTC No. 16446283
>>16446164
"Chug chug chug!"
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:14:47 UTC No. 16446285
>>16445746
die
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:15:01 UTC No. 16446286
>>16446278
Ablative grid fin paint.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:16:49 UTC No. 16446288
>>16445766
the test hardware is not the same as the production version
several important systems still need to be finalized, so there's no point in attempting make a final production version yet
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:19:04 UTC No. 16446290
>>16445779
>main engine cutoff
there's no second stage
even their terminology is full of lies and misrepresentations
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:23:34 UTC No. 16446294
>>16446267
What the fuck are you even talking about. I didnt read your long ass suspiciously GPTed post.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:24:24 UTC No. 16446296
>>16446169
ScamX destroyed
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:26:06 UTC No. 16446298
>>16446294
>he doesn't know about TRISH
lol
lmao even
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:30:46 UTC No. 16446303
>>16446298
>Transgender Recommended Institutions Supporting Harris
Why out yourself like this?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:33:41 UTC No. 16446307
>>16446305
>file name
Hi Niall
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:34:20 UTC No. 16446308
>>16446305
That shouldn't be possible
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:35:56 UTC No. 16446310
>>16446305
lol
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:36:20 UTC No. 16446311
>>16446305
>>16446308
This is possible, and we have been shown.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:36:37 UTC No. 16446312
>>16446307
https://github.com/EltonChou/Twitte
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:37:13 UTC No. 16446313
>>16446305
NOOO BUT HOW ARE THEY GONNA RELIGHT IN IN SPACE HAHAHAHAHAHA
raptor reliability issue anons BTFO
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:39:33 UTC No. 16446317
>>16446305
are they just gonna keep going till she blows? destructionmaxx
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:40:09 UTC No. 16446319
>>16446317
Im gonna keep going until I blow if you know what I mean
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:40:50 UTC No. 16446321
>>16446223
Falcon Heavy, such as the fully expended vehicle that launched Europa Clipper, does not have the ability to launch 63 tons of payload into LEO.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:45:44 UTC No. 16446326
>>16446169
>>16446296
good way to gas yourself with nitrogen dioxide, apparently
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:46:05 UTC No. 16446327
>nuclear war before mars colony
b-bros
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:47:38 UTC No. 16446331
>>16446327
nuclear is much more efficient for space travel
they're thinking in 4d
earth will orbit mars
screencap this
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:47:41 UTC No. 16446332
Crew-8 undock stream
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1849190
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:48:36 UTC No. 16446333
>>16446305
zero refractory period
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:48:50 UTC No. 16446335
>>16445063
is it not... cold?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:49:08 UTC No. 16446336
>>16446327
nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:49:54 UTC No. 16446337
Jessie is mogging this NASAwho
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:49:58 UTC No. 16446338
>>16446321
it does have that ability and you are coping with this simple reality for some reason
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:50:17 UTC No. 16446339
>>16446239
Retard https://www.explore-space.mit.edu/
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:51:31 UTC No. 16446342
>>16446321
It does though, this is like arguing 1+1 ≠ 2
Are you, by chance, tory bruno or something? Having a nice cope?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:55:09 UTC No. 16446349
Trying to make a tally of upcoming chinese launches:
They're at 51 so far this year (1 partial failure that was fully salvaged, one failure), 52 with Shenzhou 19 assuredly coming next week.
Past few years have had regularly 15-16 launches in the last two months of the year, which would put the total at least on par with their record from last year (67 launches), now trying to see the launch opportunities:
Commercial:
CALT Jielong: 0, not compatible with Haiyang sea launch schedule we have
ISpace Hyperbola: 0, No information on July failure investigation, and focused on their sea-based VTVL demo.
CAS Kinetica: They plan 2, 1 has NOTAM, 2 seems possible given current turnaround, lots of payloads too
Galactic Energy Ceres: They plan a lot, now the reality is different, 1 Sea Ceres 1S has assembled hardware shown and planned for November, Another Jiuquan Ceres 1 is long delayed from early september, 2 seem possible, more unlikely but possible based on previous turnaround time
Orienspace Gravity 1: Hardware shown stages 2 months ago, plan a sea launch later this year, unsure but not impossible.
Landspace ZQ-2E: Announced for "winter", unlikely to fly this year, just did SF.
Space pioneer isn't mentionning Tianlong 2 launches. TL-3 are 2025
Overall ~4 seems more likely; ~7 max
Wenchang:
CZ-5: Difficult one, 2 are left for this year, possibly one with Guowang constellation, but that'd require some record tunaround. Hardware was shown for 1.
CZ-7: Tianzhou 8 assured in ~3 weeks, no time for another.
CZ-8: Lots were planned for this year. 1 was recently doing integration test at Hainan Commercial pad (HICAL, with Qianfan sats), seems likely, unlikely they can fit more from HICAL, Maiden CZ-8A is still supposed to launch in december from Wenchang proper, unsure it can happen now with Tianzhou delays.
CZ-12: Underwent WDR, soon ready for launch,good odds for this year but can never be sure with maiden launches.
Overall maybe 4 is likely, 6-7 max.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:56:06 UTC No. 16446351
>>16446217
Switch to carbon fibre. You don't need the heat resistant properties of steel (as much as Starship does. Also first stage CFRP doing re-entry has been proven with Electron), and once you've locked down the design, you no longer need the rapid prototype iteration that steel provides.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:56:10 UTC No. 16446352
>>16446349
Inland launch centers:
Hard to tell, but trying:
CZ-6A is in a Qianfan launching (and debrismaxxing) series, very good odds for at least one, if not two launches based on past cadence.
CZ-3B has its 100th launch before the end of the year, won't be more
CZ-2C has "multiple launches planned", sounds possible, Q4 2023 had 3 (currently 1 now)
CZ-6C had one additional launch planned, doubt it will happen.
CZ-2D seemingly planned for early november;
SAST's CZ-2D and CZ-4 familly are the ones that are really down compared to previous years, whether they catch up to comparable numbers or not is where there can be a difference of 5-9 launches.
Probably too early for a chink-37B launch on CZ-2F, landing was only last month
CZ-11 is hard to tell, one isn't impossible but I wouldn't count on it, there have been huge gaps before
KZ-1A having 1 or 2 launches is a clear possibility based on previous years.
Among these, I'd say there's probably a bottom estimate of 4-5, and high one at maybe ~15.
Counting everything, I think there are very good odds for at least 64-65 launches this year, there's probably 50% odds for reaching 68 or more and surpassing last year's, ceilling is probably at or a bit below 80.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:57:35 UTC No. 16446355
not reading all that
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:58:21 UTC No. 16446357
>>16446275
it doesnt have to make sense, i just want bigger ass
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:59:39 UTC No. 16446359
>>16446349
>>16446352
looking forward to more sub-100-yard hand-shot chink launch footage kino
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:00:55 UTC No. 16446362
>>16446347
>pretend to be retarded
>people call you retarded
i wonder when baittards will learn.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:00:55 UTC No. 16446363
>>16446347
The roles have been reversed this time
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:03:59 UTC No. 16446366
>>16446347
Fuck off sbarky
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:09:18 UTC No. 16446371
I'll be glad when all future space stations have starlink built in from day 1 so we don't have these awful videos
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:09:53 UTC No. 16446373
>>16446347
stay here sbarky we love you
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:13:33 UTC No. 16446376
>>16446373
Who is we?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:15:13 UTC No. 16446378
>>16446376
the anons who post on /sfg/ and hold /sfg/ consensus opinions.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:20:15 UTC No. 16446382
>>16446342
>>16446338
The Falcon Heavy that launched Europa Clipper would not have been able to take 63 tons to LEO.
I realize this is difficult for you to accept but without a new second stage Falcon Heavy is structurally limited to the same maximum mass that Falcon 9 is.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:23:13 UTC No. 16446384
>>16446382
Not sure why people are denying it
SpaceX literally said during USDV selection that they needed a new adapter and structural changes for the ~30 tons deorbit vehicle.
OIG also literally said it in one of those gateway reports
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:27:11 UTC No. 16446386
>>16446384
The best thing about internet is that you can be skeptical about everything and sound smart. Thundernigger has 1 million subscribers.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:27:17 UTC No. 16446387
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escal
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:28:32 UTC No. 16446388
>>16446387
Remind you of anything?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:31:39 UTC No. 16446391
>>16446387
So doubling down, also known as coping
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:46:15 UTC No. 16446401
Falcon is about to launch again.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:47:18 UTC No. 16446402
>>16446305
This is likely a scenario test for engine relight demonstration they have to do in orbit for their HLS milestone, and I'm guessing they were experimenting with different fuel mixture ratios for relight to see how the engine performs.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:48:07 UTC No. 16446404
>>16446401
It did the thing
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:53:20 UTC No. 16446407
>>16446106
Sounds like "1984"
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:56:16 UTC No. 16446409
and it stuck the landing. always good to see.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:56:52 UTC No. 16446411
>>16446401
It didn't blow or tip. Impressive.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:57:50 UTC No. 16446412
>>16446382
it would have, it literally only needs the little cap known as a payload adapter to be slightly beefier.
>but without a new second stage
nope, second stage can handle it just fine, it's literally just the payload adapter, which is interchangeable and not part of the 2nd stage.
it can be changed at literally any time.
which means that falcon heavy can carry 63 tons to orbit.
stop coping.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:00:23 UTC No. 16446413
>Despite the two candidates’ vastly different platforms, voters can expect stability in U.S. space policy as a result of this year’s election.
>Given their past leadership, it is unlikely that either candidate will seek to dramatically alter the long-term missions the largest government space organizations have underway during the upcoming presidential term. And neither is likely to undercut their predecessors’ accomplishments.
https://theconversation.com/both-ha
how do people get paid to write this drivel? anyone here would have a more informed take. its obvious that kamala would be much worse, even detrimental, for spaceflight than trump.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:01:45 UTC No. 16446415
>>16446412
If swapping the payload adaptor was all it took then there would not be mass issues with PPE/HALO.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:03:42 UTC No. 16446416
>>16446415
nope, PPE/HALO exceeds the mass limits of the adapter that they can easily customize for any launch above it's standard when necessary, as they have advertized.
it can carry 63 tons to orbit.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:04:46 UTC No. 16446417
>>16446413
Lie by omission is great to advance a political narrative.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:05:46 UTC No. 16446419
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:07:07 UTC No. 16446421
>>16445819
JOHNSON!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:10:50 UTC No. 16446424
>>16446416
>Falcon Heavy cannot launch a slightly overweight PPE/HALO but totally can launch 63 tons to LEO
Said as you are accusing others of cope.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:12:00 UTC No. 16446426
>>16446278
easy just let them warp and stay warped
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:13:47 UTC No. 16446429
>>16446421
Propellant is stored in the balls
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:14:29 UTC No. 16446430
>>16446351
>Switch to carbon fibre!
No. Because CF is 100 times the cost of steel and Booster would require rather a lot of it.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:14:43 UTC No. 16446431
>>16446033
true
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:15:09 UTC No. 16446432
>>16445654
>already landed this in kerbal, not even hard
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:15:37 UTC No. 16446433
>>16446033
>>16446431
the back fell off
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:16:56 UTC No. 16446434
>>16446278
>>16446286
>>16446426
The gridfins on Block 2 boosters are depicted lower down for this exact reason.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:17:56 UTC No. 16446436
>>16446429
Soviets are so retarded
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:19:34 UTC No. 16446438
>>16446436
BALL
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:20:50 UTC No. 16446440
>>16446278
>>16446434
Notice how it looks similar to buckling in rail lines when it gets really hot? 304 stainless has a linear coefficient of thermal expansion of 17.3. Differential heating is making each hole expand a little differently, and because each cell is constrained by its neighbors, the only way they can expand is outward. They shrink down and go back to normal as they cool.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:21:30 UTC No. 16446441
>>16446438
I love the different design philosophy. I tried to make a space race in KSP and made the US/USSR use all different parts.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:22:36 UTC No. 16446442
>>16446431
nozzles are not critical hardware
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:23:17 UTC No. 16446443
>>16446213
where's the row for how much it costs to make one?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:25:29 UTC No. 16446445
>>16446215
slow
and
steady
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:27:10 UTC No. 16446446
>>16446438
Behold, a space station
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:27:30 UTC No. 16446447
>>16446434
They also made the gridfins radially symmetrical at 90 degrees apart, why were they squeezed together in the first place?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:28:10 UTC No. 16446448
>>16446447
>that pic
"muh dick"
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:30:19 UTC No. 16446449
>>16446447
I'm spit balling but it may have had to do with early ideas about using the grid fins to catch the booster.
Putting them together means they can distribute the load landing on all 4 fins
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:32:56 UTC No. 16446451
>>16446447
how many more cubic meters would a starship v3 have?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:35:15 UTC No. 16446453
Guess 9 m width was too friggin small huh
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:37:39 UTC No. 16446457
>>16446453
proof?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:37:40 UTC No. 16446458
>>16446453
I don't know why Musk didn't switch back to 12m once they decided to use steel, a bummer.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:39:07 UTC No. 16446459
>>16446453
18m flat pancake is in fact peak rocketry
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:40:50 UTC No. 16446461
>>16446453
>>16446459
Elon should've said fuck it and gone 18m. It would have been immune to any windsheer including thunderstorms. And more importantly it would be extremely stable landing on the moon, with similar height to width as the LEM
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:42:07 UTC No. 16446462
>>16446451
a whole cubic kilometer
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:45:25 UTC No. 16446466
>>16446462
but that was for v1 starship, i don't think they are doubling up the capacity for v3
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:46:58 UTC No. 16446469
>https://sattrackcam.blogspot.com/2
>Over the past two months, perigee has been kept on the equator (argument of perigee kept near 180 degrees). That is a situation where during a perigee pass, there is the possibility to change the orbital inclination. So it is possible that near the end of the aerobraking sequence, the orbital inclination (currently 59 degrees) will be changed to a lower value, e.g. around 40 degrees as with previous X-37B missions in LEO.
What is the relationship between this spaceplane doing aerobraking and then changing the inclination of the orbit with the perigee near the equator? Isn't aerobraking just the equivalent of an opposite intrack thrust?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:50:48 UTC No. 16446472
>>16446469
the wings produce lift so if you pitch to one side during the aerobrake it turns your trajectory
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:52:12 UTC No. 16446474
>>16446472
hmmn... has this been observed or stated?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:52:32 UTC No. 16446475
>>16446459
closer to a circle the better
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:56:29 UTC No. 16446478
>>16446459
Until Starship is a UFO shape I am not interested.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 22:59:03 UTC No. 16446481
>https://x.com/SpaceX/status/184922
>Deployment of 23 @Starlink satellites confirmed, completing our 100th successful Falcon flight of the year!
TOTAL SPACEX SUPREMACY
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:02:28 UTC No. 16446485
>>16446474
How do you think crew capsules steer during reentry?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:04:27 UTC No. 16446488
>>16446485
the people inside move from one side to the other
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:04:50 UTC No. 16446490
>>16446481
On second thought, they need to reuse boosters 1000 times so that it makes financial sense.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:05:52 UTC No. 16446491
>>16446487
>her
take a (You) for your well crafted bait.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:08:22 UTC No. 16446494
>>16446462
>Cubic kilometre
he did it again
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:09:21 UTC No. 16446496
>>16446494
Are you ironically falling for the meme or just plain stupid
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:16:00 UTC No. 16446502
>>16446447
>why were they squeezed together in the first place?
musk explained in some interview (the new estronaut tour?) that they need more control authority in the out to sea/into land direction than the up/down the coast direction, so the gridfins are positioned to deliver that.
>They also made the gridfins radially symmetrical at 90 degrees apart
are you sure that's not 3 gridfins?
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:25:48 UTC No. 16446504
>scaffolding removed
>no overpressure notice
looks like a B13 spin prime tonight
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:25:52 UTC No. 16446505
>>16446462
about ~900 m^2, so approximately a cubic kilometer. we're gonna be living on oneil cylinders with that kind of volume
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:40:55 UTC No. 16446516
interesting that we haven't heard a peep of the behind the scenes stuff that lead to an early flight 5 license.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:45:04 UTC No. 16446517
the rat ship is sinking...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1a
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:47:15 UTC No. 16446519
>>16446517
Blatant antisemitism
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:48:14 UTC No. 16446521
>>16446516
>FAA: we wish to consult because the thing might land in the ocean over there instead of in the ocean over there
>FWS: are you retarded? stop wasting our time
Stated more politely and in writing of course.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:49:56 UTC No. 16446523
>>16446517
thunderjew
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:53:37 UTC No. 16446529
>>16446519
>>16446523
the duality of /sfg/
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:57:43 UTC No. 16446532
>>16446517
What is this fucking retard rambling on about now? I really hope frumpy gets a landslide just to piss off all the EDS spastics
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:59:33 UTC No. 16446535
>>16446517
reminder that thunderf00t used to be an anti-gamergate YouTube
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:00:35 UTC No. 16446537
>>16446517
reminder that thunderf00t used to be an anti SJW gamergate youtuber
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:03:51 UTC No. 16446538
>>16446517
reminder that youtube used to be an anti-thunderfoot gamergater
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:05:19 UTC No. 16446539
I miss Oppy
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:13:38 UTC No. 16446546
>>16446539
fuck you. kill yourself.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:16:32 UTC No. 16446548
I miss Clear
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:17:08 UTC No. 16446549
>>16446546
nah you be moving real oppy rn nigga
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:18:09 UTC No. 16446551
>>16446548
why?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:18:57 UTC No. 16446552
>>16446548
Practice your aim
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:19:17 UTC No. 16446553
klaxon going at OLM
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:20:52 UTC No. 16446554
>>16446539
I miss Ginny
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:21:22 UTC No. 16446555
>elon confirmed 12m starship in future
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:22:53 UTC No. 16446556
>>16446555
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18492
>Starship will lengthen in the next few years.
>10 years from now, there will probably be a much wider diameter Starship too.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:28:49 UTC No. 16446559
>>16446556
>>16446555
>12m = nearly 40ft freedom units
Imagine the possibilities for crewed upper stages, my God
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:33:17 UTC No. 16446565
>>16446559
Spaceballs will happen in our lifetime.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:35:04 UTC No. 16446568
>100th falcon 9 flight of the year
>one (1) post on sfg
crazy
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:36:46 UTC No. 16446570
>>16446517
Why do they all think he's going to jail
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:37:23 UTC No. 16446572
>>16446568
my stats show 99th f9, 101st falcon family, and 4 posts about it.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:37:23 UTC No. 16446573
>>16446568
only the most inane shit is discussed today for some reason
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:37:57 UTC No. 16446575
>>16445805
/g/ are luddites. They've been bearish on every new tech development
1) Crypto
2) AI
3) Rocketry
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:37:58 UTC No. 16446577
>>16446517
I'm just going to guess what this is about because its more fun than watching the video
Thunderfoot realized that because trump is going to win the election, he can claim elon was on the brink of collapse before trump's windfall 2nd term will save him, even though he's already claimed elon's companies are propped up with corruption during both republican and democrat regimes so it never made any difference
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:47:33 UTC No. 16446588
>>16446516
Maybe enough non-cretins in congress called them out and the bureaufats started to sweat about having their trough filled/budgets rubberstamped. But idk.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:52:29 UTC No. 16446592
Cancel Artemis
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:01:55 UTC No. 16446600
>>16446570
Wishful thinking of genuinely unwell, childishly ignorant minds.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:23:00 UTC No. 16446621
>>16446616
https://www.axios.com/authors/alotz
Ew, an axios shill
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:25:55 UTC No. 16446627
a lot of ableism from leftists against musk for his autism.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:27:50 UTC No. 16446630
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:29:07 UTC No. 16446633
>>16446624
gb2x
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:30:20 UTC No. 16446634
>>16446624
>general public
>knowing that mir existed
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:31:05 UTC No. 16446635
>>16446616
2 weeks
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:38:56 UTC No. 16446643
>>16446616
Remember the platform of neurodiversity just bullied elon for his Asperger's at a rally and everyone cheered
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:40:17 UTC No. 16446645
The last 2 hours are a case study in why OLM A is a gigantic shit and can't be demolished soon enough. I'm pissed off just watching that. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:53:27 UTC No. 16446658
>>16446441
For All Kerbalkind is a neat KSP multiplayer series you should check out
Two dudes essentially playing RP-1/RO like Buzz Aldrin Space Program Manager
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:59:15 UTC No. 16446662
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:00:06 UTC No. 16446664
>>16446658
I'm glad they still do it. So many series get started then have an abrupt end. Especially ones involving multiple people. Scott Manley woukd randomly end interesting series back when he was actually interesting and played ksp a decade ago. Now he's like the penguinz0 of shallow opinions on space stuff
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:00:34 UTC No. 16446666
>>16446662
I can't even imagine how awkward that party was
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:01:13 UTC No. 16446667
>>16446624
didn't the spitter guy with the gura pfp make a video on this?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:04:34 UTC No. 16446669
>>16446662
when you look closely at the other people in this picture it makes it 10x better. it's. a a profound show of Musks autism. Everyone in the picture looks extemely uncomfortable apart from him, and the employees are just going along with the boss acting weird so they don't get fired. Meanwhile, there is Musk, stroking a pose and finding himself hilarious as always.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:06:30 UTC No. 16446671
>>16446634
something something overestimating the average person's knowledge in a subject matter that you're interested in
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:07:10 UTC No. 16446672
>>16445817
Same reason that blue origin had to bribe NASA to be included in Artemis.
Bezos signed up to the "billionaire space race" in earnest as a dick measuring contest and he still can't get over the fact that while he and Sir Richard Branson were burning cash to be the first "luxury space tour" provider, SpaceX completely monopolized space without even acknowledging them.
He just keeps making shit to stay relevant and attract investors. New Glenn is his first attempt at actually entering commercial space, and without staying relevant and attracting investors with headlines, he has no hope at all of pulling it off.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:10:00 UTC No. 16446675
>>16446658
Speaking of, I'm surprised we never got a game of that going here
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:12:12 UTC No. 16446677
>>16445879
Bezos was literally sued by his shareholders for letting his agenda against Musk blow out Kuiper spending enormously.
He had to bribe NASA to the tune of 2 billion dollars to stay relevant and the entire world thinks he's a joke because all he has is a tiny phallic bottle rocket.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:12:41 UTC No. 16446678
>>16446675
Dare the impossible: PBEM High Frontier to completion
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:14:19 UTC No. 16446680
>>16446677
the fact that kuiper hasn't been a new Glenn exclusive payload is wild. i don't know how bezos copes.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:19:56 UTC No. 16446688
>>16446677
Reminder the guy they hired for kuiper is the same guy Musk had to fire to get starlink moving
>you bloody bastard bitch
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:23:29 UTC No. 16446691
>>16446688
Now he's on the NSC
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:27:44 UTC No. 16446695
>>16446688
guy looks like Christopher scolese. Must be a particular phenotype of failing-upwards aerospace grifters
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:28:02 UTC No. 16446696
>>16446680
It's because New Glenn isn't anywhere near ready.
Imagine having to just buy out all remaining Atlas V's to pretend to stay relevant (and avoid associating with SpaceX, as outlined in court documents)
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:28:15 UTC No. 16446697
>>16446691
It's sort of a miracle that anything works at all in a world where shit like this is possible
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:30:19 UTC No. 16446700
>>16446697
Like most things in life, the NCOs run this shit like the Mafia
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:31:27 UTC No. 16446702
>>16446696
I was a believer that NG would fly in August. I'm losing hope in Bezoschan. 25 years and no orbital rocket... CRAZY.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:39:48 UTC No. 16446708
Tank farm startup
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:40:25 UTC No. 16446709
>>16446702
Sorry bud, best I can do is "Spring 2025, at the earliest".
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:46:16 UTC No. 16446711
>>16446709
I feel like I've been betrayed by a good friend.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:57:51 UTC No. 16446720
>>16446708
NIGHT TIME STATIC FIRE HERE WE COME HOLY FUCK ITS HAPPENING
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:03:02 UTC No. 16446723
>>16446720
>inb4 morning static
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:04:07 UTC No. 16446724
>>16446721
I think every day you dont spend ripping off starship is another day you will be behind
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:04:23 UTC No. 16446725
>>16446720
no overpressure no static fire
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:05:05 UTC No. 16446726
>>16446725
Fugg I really want to see one tho
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:10:52 UTC No. 16446731
>>16446720
Spin prime at best, but maybe not even that. Tank farm has gone quiet. They were embarrassingly slow clearing the pad, couldn't figure out booster pins, couldn't figure out how to move the dance floor. Public road and beach closure for no reason at all unless something changes. Static fire is tomorrow if they can somehow get back on schedule.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:26:47 UTC No. 16446742
it's happening
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:28:09 UTC No. 16446744
>>16446742
it is?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:38:14 UTC No. 16446753
>>16446742
Nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:41:08 UTC No. 16446755
>>16446753
Boeing workers announced that they will stay on strike.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:55:30 UTC No. 16446760
>>16446724
Yea. Copying makes you look like a bitch, but at the same time NOT copying would be a total waste of resources trying to reinvent the wheel.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 03:56:59 UTC No. 16446762
>>16446443
And also how fast they can make them
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:04:21 UTC No. 16446767
>>16446555
>>16446556
>>16446559
Much Larger = 15m or 18m
12m is baby-tier
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:05:59 UTC No. 16446768
>>16446517
somebody send this graph >>16445602 to thunderf00l.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:16:09 UTC No. 16446772
goddamn elon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u8
I seriously don't understand how he thinks this behavior is good for getting humanity to mars.
No, I'm not a troll.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:44:05 UTC No. 16446781
>>16446772
I'm not going to look at that.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:46:14 UTC No. 16446783
>>16446781
elon is not critically thinking when he tweets. It's dangerous.
It's literally impossible to say this without appearing as a le concern troll anti elon off topic poster around here, and I get that. Fine. But I really am worried.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:50:52 UTC No. 16446785
>>16446783
I don't care about twitter so I don't look at it. I look down on people who do.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:54:43 UTC No. 16446790
>>16446783
>It's dangerous.
You're a tourist and a political hack.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:57:04 UTC No. 16446791
>>16446790
I posted one of the first three sfgs, but thanks
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:58:59 UTC No. 16446794
>>16446791
And I'm John Cena. The post prior was a textbook concern troll.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:00:02 UTC No. 16446796
>>16446794
thus my lamenting that it's impossible to discuss the subject (Elon's "!" posting etc) without appearing as one. I get it, I call people out for it all the time too.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:02:54 UTC No. 16446799
34 times
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:04:32 UTC No. 16446800
>>16446772
Isn't this the dude that caught cancer from the vaccine?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:08:48 UTC No. 16446803
>>16446772
Not watching that fag. What are these lies?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:10:07 UTC No. 16446805
>>16446783
He just operates belligerently outside of the "omg SOURCE" misinformation trolling paradigm.
People should be allowed to talk. He is endangering his projects, but it's arguably more dangerous to let the world carry on with this nonsense.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:11:24 UTC No. 16446806
>>16446800
Vaxtard spotted. Back to the catalogue you go
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:20:37 UTC No. 16446821
>>16446806
Nah he's unironically the dude that caught cancer from the jab.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:25:57 UTC No. 16446823
>>16446821
>>>/pol/
fuck off please
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:50:36 UTC No. 16446834
>>16446772
I've never made it through one of this guy's videos without being angry.
He starts the video with a theme of self improvement that we all repeat lies because we don't fact check. By the end of the video he is reprimanding elon not just for fucking up like everyone else, but outright accusing elon of not caring about the truth with no evidence other than he repeated lies, but this is supposed to be a common hazard to everyone according the video's premise.
Also an ulterior motive is extremely obvious. "Oh I just remembered a video I did where I fact checked myself, let me do that for another person, this has nothing to do with them being a powerful campaign force for politics I disagree with right now".
But here's just where I really ball my fist. I think this guy really believes he's putting out a helpful message even if he doesn't notice his own bias. But the most important part is right under his nose. He admitted that it took a long time to fact check some of these claims. I know from common sense he spent hours doing this. Now consider the rate that you encounter new claims on the internet. It's not only a full time job to be well informed, it's literally impossible. This is a way bigger component to the problem than personal apathy. Because no amount of caring will shorten the time it takes to fact check yourself.
And for this reason, picking elon for this exercise makes even less sense. He's an extremely visible and contentious X account and everything he posts will be immediately checked against good community notes. Elon also knows this. So why would he, the owner of multiple companies, spend the time to fact check when his audience will do it for him. The most efficient way to spend his time is to just post everything he suspects is true, and his world view will be corrected in near real time. If he was careful about what he posted like this moron suggests, he would go on suspecting or believing things that weren't true in silence.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:41:17 UTC No. 16446860
>>16446859
Pluto is not a planet. Mars, Saturn (solely for its moons)
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:42:02 UTC No. 16446862
>>16446860
>Pluto is not a planet.
Yes it is.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:43:07 UTC No. 16446863
>>16446862
IAP disagrees, not debatable unless you want to invalidate the entirety of the IAP
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:45:04 UTC No. 16446865
>>16446863
>invalidate the entirety of the IAP
That's how Pluto got re-classified in the first place.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:47:05 UTC No. 16446867
>>16446859
Jupiter is not a planet (Greeks and Trojans)
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 07:12:19 UTC No. 16446877
>>16446413
lol, Trump has said multiple times on stage that Musk promised him people could land on mars in 2028
how is that not a big change?
and if DOGE truly starts rolling, NASA has a lot of retarded shit going on that needs to be cut and reformed
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 07:14:28 UTC No. 16446881
>>16446859
Neptune and Luna
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 07:34:28 UTC No. 16446885
>>16445850
Are you retarded? Just look at the projected profits of Starlink in the upcoming years. That shit alone justifies developing Starship. Fucking insane how much pure cash it will being in. It's already having a revenue of 6.6 Billion.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:02:15 UTC No. 16446918
>>16446487
Imagine how quickly we could progress if governments were nonexistent.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:12:33 UTC No. 16446922
>>16446859
Earth and Saturn
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:32:00 UTC No. 16446936
>>16446800
lol what a retard,what is the problem with that statement?
women are much weaker than men on average and it is biological
the fact that he brings this up makes it so much more retarded
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:42:56 UTC No. 16446947
>>16446800
>>16446772
may the cancer consume him, suffer not the weakling to live. i am so sick of feminized men
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:47:17 UTC No. 16446951
>>16446950
https://www.pcmag.com/news/cellular
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:50:02 UTC No. 16446954
>>16446556
hasn't he talked about this previously too?
it just makes sense when you look at the pencil starship
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:51:03 UTC No. 16446955
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:52:58 UTC No. 16446956
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:54:58 UTC No. 16446958
>>16446956
lol please
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:59:20 UTC No. 16446962
>>16446961
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18492
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:02:19 UTC No. 16446965
>>16446957
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/18
digital transformation going on in africa
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:03:24 UTC No. 16446966
>>16446961
Felon Husk just admitted in this tweet that the Starship launch was a failure. Just accept it Felon Husk fanboys, Starship will never reach orbit, its over.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:04:54 UTC No. 16446967
>>16446966
Those are called hops, not launches
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:05:57 UTC No. 16446969
>>16444916
Thoughts?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:09:01 UTC No. 16446972
>>16446969
I think it's a perfect match
most other Islamic countries have moon on their flag also
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:11:55 UTC No. 16446974
>>16446969
A shadow of its former self, you gasp at the colorless vacuum, but there is only dust...
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:12:07 UTC No. 16446975
>>16446972
very funny. The moon will be whites only once we colonize it
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:13:08 UTC No. 16446976
>>16446974
Once we build a metropolis on the falkland islands and use oil exports from it as an economic springboard to the stars we will be a world power once again!
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:15:37 UTC No. 16446978
>>16446956
FTS triggered
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:22:06 UTC No. 16446983
>>16446978
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:32:15 UTC No. 16446992
>>16446989
How does Casey Handmer make money on a day-to-day basis? Does he still have a main job, or does he just grift the internet as an “idea guy” who blogd and tweets about space ideas to pay piggies
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:32:46 UTC No. 16446993
>>16446989
What happened to those projects to use the sun as a telescope lens?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:39:15 UTC No. 16446996
>>16446992
He founded a p2x startup Terraform Industries which has raised some millions of dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nng
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:42:13 UTC No. 16447002
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:44:16 UTC No. 16447004
>>16447002
but its still page 9
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:45:03 UTC No. 16447005
>>16447002
good edition, but you still have a few threads before page 10
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:46:04 UTC No. 16447006
>>16447005
okay not even a few, its 11 fucking threads
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:55:57 UTC No. 16447022
hold in the count at t-40 seconds, range is no go
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:59:47 UTC No. 16447025
>>16446992
He grifts California with his solar bunkum
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:01:36 UTC No. 16447029
>>16446993
Solar gravity focus telescope is a popsci meme not to be taken seriously
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:02:11 UTC No. 16447030
>>16446936
I can only imagine he's quibbling over the exact percentage, he can't honestly believe the distribution of male and female strength is the same right?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:04:38 UTC No. 16447032
static fire today
https://x.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:08:53 UTC No. 16447035
>>16446680
>exclusive to a rocket that is years late
you have to actually launch a rocket to get to orbit
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:11:41 UTC No. 16447037
>>16446956
>STAGGING!
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:12:39 UTC No. 16447038
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:13:04 UTC No. 16447039
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:16:40 UTC No. 16447042
SpaceX but instead of being cringe it’s actually cool
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:18:04 UTC No. 16447043
>>16447042
>in addition to*
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:19:12 UTC No. 16447044
>>16447006
time to bump some junk in the catalogue then
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:28:43 UTC No. 16447050
>>16447042
Honestly the "California tech company" elements are going to make for a hellish Mars city
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:45:06 UTC No. 16447058
BUSINESS IDEA: Side boosters for side boosters
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:46:47 UTC No. 16447060
what's biden's biggest thing he's done for spaceflight? im looking at the relaxing of ITAR restrictions and it's significant but im not sure if it would be in the top 3 or not.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:48:07 UTC No. 16447061
>>16447058
Now you're thinking with space shuttle
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:49:53 UTC No. 16447063
>>16447058
already been done
>>16447060
Uhhh he got the commercial crew program going as the head of the national space council? Which is why SpaceX exists? Biden has been the best space president since Kennedy
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:50:12 UTC No. 16447064
>>16447060
Getting Trump elected in 2024.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:51:11 UTC No. 16447065
>>16447063
>head of the national space council
Biden was never head of the space council.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:53:26 UTC No. 16447067
>>16447060
does HLS selection count
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:54:47 UTC No. 16447068
>>16447065
Well whatever the VPs job is, I don't know
>>16447067
No because the people responsible were pushed out (one possibly killed). State funded Starship development was basically snuck by the admin
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:57:35 UTC No. 16447069
>>16447068
>Well whatever the VPs job is, I don't know
When biden was VP the VP had nothing to do with space.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:22:38 UTC No. 16447088
>>16447032
after that just need to wait for S31 tilework
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:22:53 UTC No. 16447089
>>16447061
I hate hydrolox
but on a relative scale the shuttle ET was cool as hell and they pumped them out like hot cakes and it will forever be better than SLS’s redesigned, expensive, and shitty orange tank
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:35:54 UTC No. 16447100
>>16447063
The NSC had been dead for many years during Biden's time as VP. Trump brought it back. You're a fucking retard.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:41:59 UTC No. 16447103
What is it with NASA manned deep space mission planners and asserting that astronauts need enough room in the habitat to play american football or something, or they will go crazy and kill themselves?
Put an average NEET in a 2x2 meter box on his way to Mars and his mental health will improve
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:51:27 UTC No. 16447112
>>16447061
whats the launch vehicle with the hydromeme drop tanks called? I always thought that one was very cool as a kid
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:52:48 UTC No. 16447114
>>16447103
NEETS are too cowardly to get in a rocket
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:57:23 UTC No. 16447118
>>16447100
I didn't look it up I just thought it would be really funny if that were true
It is still ironic that Obama -> CC -> Starship and Trump -> Artemis -> SLS though
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 13:25:57 UTC No. 16447132
>>16447118
Historians will say this
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 13:39:38 UTC No. 16447140
>>16447118
Obama did say he would revive NSC but then never did.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 13:47:08 UTC No. 16447146
the last 40 years of spaceflight have largely been the dark ages of malaise and stagnation. can we please forget them and move on? past mistakes should never be resurrected, the future looks bright
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 13:50:21 UTC No. 16447150
>>16447146
I got into space in the late 2000s and luckily found SpaceX which was a ray of hope. Being a space fan in the 90s and early 2000s must have been DARK.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 13:54:10 UTC No. 16447151
>>16447150
I was like 12 when I first started getting into space in 2012, and I found out the shuttle was cancelled the previous year. We were riding with the Russians and Obama made NASA focus on the weather. As a kid I was like
>it's so over
SpaceX was neither guaranteed nor deserved. Every day something in space happens is euphoric
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 13:56:40 UTC No. 16447155
>>16447151
excuse me this is a boomer general
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:01:03 UTC No. 16447157
>>16447155
The future is now, old man.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:05:24 UTC No. 16447158
>>16447155
I'm married and mow my lawn every weekend, I don't want to hear it
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:15:57 UTC No. 16447166
>>16447151
Yeah, it was so over on so many levels, it was insane. Even early SpaceX were effected by it and just focused on 'lowering the cost of space launch' rather than reusability, because in the public mind Shuttle had thoroughly discredited the economics of reusability and to pursue it was a joke. It also left a bad taste for manned spaceflight in general, so the JPL "launch a rover every quater century" lobby won.
SpaceX existing when it did is completely miraculous, nobody who knows the history can say that Musk is not the greatest man of our time.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:17:14 UTC No. 16447168
>>16447157
they will inevitabily try to trim delta v off this landing burn. How will it look in 10 years?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:19:39 UTC No. 16447171
>>16447168
It will look like a crash until the dust clears, every time
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:25:15 UTC No. 16447178
>>16447166
The single greatest argument for great man theory. I don't think it will be debatable. There will be a city on a different planet this century due to the actions of one man.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:29:28 UTC No. 16447183
>>16446878
a dwarf planet isnt a planet though.
its not an adjective noun phrase but a compound noun with a different meaning. unless you are talking about "minor planets" that covers literally everything in the solar system down to the smallest rock.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:31:37 UTC No. 16447186
>>16447183
>planet
Meaningless abstraction from the ether.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:31:52 UTC No. 16447187
>>16447183
>>16446878
the word you're looking for is "planetoid", which means everything that's round
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:32:32 UTC No. 16447188
>>16447061
>middle one
you know, this looks quite similar to the SLS
>ho ho, oh no, pattented space shuttle derivative, old ULA recipe
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:32:54 UTC No. 16447189
>>16446351
>completely redo something that's already working
This is possibly the worst idea of all time
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:33:34 UTC No. 16447191
>>16446878
This, IAU trannys can dilate.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:35:33 UTC No. 16447194
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:39:41 UTC No. 16447201
>>16447168
In 10 years it will be a huge electromagnetic pipe tower, like in this video, just reversed.
https://youtu.be/N7tIi71-AjA
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:43:12 UTC No. 16447209
>>16447194
What's the point of creating another thread when there's two up already?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:43:55 UTC No. 16447212
>>16447209
previous threads are illegitimate
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:44:05 UTC No. 16447213
>>16447209
board culture you stupid nigger
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:45:05 UTC No. 16447215
>>16447213
Spamming isn't considered 'culture'
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:49:55 UTC No. 16447223
>>16447215
lmfao what a fucking tourist
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:53:42 UTC No. 16447229
>>16447223
>Reeee I'm stoooooging
Get over yourself you fucking autist. Just use the next available thread rather making up retarded reason to make another thread
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:02:48 UTC No. 16447248
>>16447209
to discourage early staging which should ultimately decrease the number of simultaneous threads
this is assuming a normal situation without the presence of a butthurt thread splitter
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:03:48 UTC No. 16447250
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:04:12 UTC No. 16447251
>>16444950
Too bad, there's uranite on Mars
Jews lose
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:16:07 UTC No. 16447266
>>16447194
so the page 10 sperg was the trump OP poster. interesting
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:25:01 UTC No. 16447273
>>16447266
no, he's a different faggot
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:39:15 UTC No. 16447294
man it's impressive how belligirent and autistic people are
one simple rule that you should stage after page 10 and some autists go out of their way to intentionally early stage out of spite because their feefees were hurt.
it really is impressive just how autistic and antisocial some of the people on this website really are.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:44:46 UTC No. 16447305
>muh feefees
lmao
your ridiculously petty and infantile insults have literally no effect on target
these types don't disrupt threads because their feefees are hurt
they do it to confuse people who are unfamiliar with general etiquette and gradually deplatfrom or otherwise degrade the forum of discussion
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:45:58 UTC No. 16447307
>>16447050
but a mars city there will be
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:48:32 UTC No. 16447308
>>16447305
he very very clearly did do exactly that on IFT, he spent like half an hour whining about his stage getting rejected and then spilled his spaghetti everywhere.
all these early stages are built on the tears of one obsessed retard who felt slighted.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:52:40 UTC No. 16447313
>>16447310
>>16447310
>>16447310
>>16447310
staging at page 10
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:57:18 UTC No. 16447324
>>16447313
Shut the fuck up you fucking nerd we stay here. Onto the next article of conversation:
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:59:28 UTC No. 16447332
>>16447324
>aislop
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:24:13 UTC No. 16447379
>>16444984
based if true
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:28:13 UTC No. 16447386
So what the hell is the actual thread?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:35:07 UTC No. 16447406
>>16447386
the one that was actually staged at page 10
>>16447310
>>16447310
>>16447310
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:55:59 UTC No. 16447473
>>16445460
It's not our destiny as humans to colonize the galaxy. It's our destiny to create the ones who will colonize the galaxy.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 17:11:58 UTC No. 16447514
>>16447473
The destiny of mankind: to create the astrochicken