Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:26:05 UTC No. 16443520

>>16443511
this is the best introduction to computational neuroscience: https://compcogneuro.org/book
i found the more advanced stuff inaccessible before i read it
before it there was a book in 2001 by the same author, and before that there were the PDP books

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:30:13 UTC No. 16443521

>>16443511
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:40:26 UTC No. 16443526

>>16443511
>it is impossible to understand human society without reading these 2 books
I have read neither and understand it better than their authors, Yuval I have heard of and it was a midwit's take...so I'll skip all his works.

What makes you think (You) understand hueman society?...because it illuminated you. So does a red pill to a normie, look at Scott Adams.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:43:24 UTC No. 16443528

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:48:57 UTC No. 16443532

>>16443526
sapiens is half true and half jewish nonsense
he has some based takes, e.g. values some of us see as inherent truths, such as "all humans are born equal" are simply wrong
equal in what way? he then fails to apply this to niggers, because it's jewish nonsense
he explains banking well, and how capitalism relies on a perpetually growing economy, plus the prehistory bits are nice

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:00:06 UTC No. 16443547

>>16443532
that's because there is no scientific consensus on role of IQ in genes, yes IQ exists but there is little evidence that its largely genetic and not just influenced by nutrition and environment. yuval is a scientific and rational person, so he wont put claims that are yet to be proven.

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:01:18 UTC No. 16443550

>>16443532
>inherent truths, such as "all humans are born equal"
Bedrock of coherent society, otherwise it becomes master/slaves, like Marx's dualism.
>capitalism
Bullshit take of pure Mathematical conceptualization, like a robot.

>>16443500
>capitalistic
Latin word meaning "head,".

Neither Marx, Yuval, nor "society" understands what "Kapitalism" is, comrade.

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:04:12 UTC No. 16443557

>>16443547
>yuval is a scientific and rational person
His "midwit take" was an irrational, emotional, and ignorance based, comment. Hence why I dropped him.
>so he wont put claims that are yet to be proven
[draws in smoke]
Sheeeit....
[exhales]

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:06:10 UTC No. 16443560

>>16443547
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Heritability
>Heritability measures for g factor in infancy are as low as 0.2, around 0.4 in middle childhood, and as high as 0.9 in adulthood.
consensus is that IQ is largely environmental for children, and largely genetic for adults
nutrition is also a factor, but suggesting IQ is not genetic is pretty fucking regarded of you

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:12:33 UTC No. 16443570

>>16443557
>sheeeit...
kek, he pushes his cognitive revolution theory in Sapiens, which he says began ~70,000 years ago
this is based on an uptick in cultural artifacts after that date, e.g. stadel lion-man
aboriginal australians split from all other groups ~75,000 years ago, and thus missed his cognitive revolution
but he never addresses this

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:21:27 UTC No. 16443579

>>16443570
>~70,000 years ago
Fair enough, I use 40,000 years as a general dateline for my specific lineage in huemans, but [searches]...
>430,000 years old
...is much older, but...
>40,000 years ago, after which all physical evidence of them vanishes.
Ended at the same time, how about that...

I know what remained from them in Huemans and its continued existence to this day, but /sci/ isnt into real science and all. Its a New York Times bestseller and /g/, /b/ and /x-lite/ Reddit board now.

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:22:28 UTC No. 16443582

>>16443579
>searches
For Neaderthals*.

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:25:31 UTC No. 16443585

>>16443579
>my specific lineage
Rh-, not Neaderthals.

Fucking sucks I cant read books and shit like in OP, I would do nothing but rewrite it as I read and that shit is frustrating. Like reading a shitpost and not being able to reply to correct the record. My autism it too strong for such suffering.

Time...huemans need time to sort out this shit before I can continue dragging them back into the future.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:30:55 UTC No. 16443590

>>16443579
neanderthals split from humans a long time before 430,000 years ago
i think that's the date for the neanderthal/denisovan split, but i cba to check

train of thought
one of the earliest - iirc - human/neanderthal hybrids found in europe was ~40,000 years old, and a genetic dead end
so surely neanderthals survived a bit longer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe%C8%99tera_cu_Oase

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:46:51 UTC No. 16443611

>>16443590
>so surely neanderthals survived a bit longer?
I deal with them daily, whatchya chattin' 'bout Willis?...or did you think Cognition was compounded Molecules?

Chemist's perspective of Medicine, which Medicine is upstream of Psychology, so a Chemist wouldnt see it looking down [the wrong Path].

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:49:24 UTC No. 16443612

>>16443611
>Chemist wouldnt see it
Same reason Chemists (DNA) thought Evolution was "random mutations over millions of years". It took Mathematicians to rigorously disprove that.

I had to rewrite each and every one of these fields to make a coherent picture of it all...
[lights another after putting one out]

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:55:09 UTC No. 16443617

>>16443590
>split
Then reHybridize. A recycle system of Evolution to make new and incorporate into the "pilot wave" entity. The main director of the planets Ecolosystem.

Otherwise each beefly would choose a different insect (or whatever) to mimic...they didnt "look" with their eyes, thats an atomized individual in perspective.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:11:48 UTC No. 16443641

>>16443532
Why Nations Fail is similarly stupid. Again the underlying assumption is that all humans are interchangeable worker units and the only reason for any divergence whatsoever in anything is geographical and socioeconomic factors. And of course that leads with it tunnel vision and a connect-the-dots conclusion-first-evidence-later type reasoning that is unfalsifiable and fails to explain anything outside of its narrow domain. Simple: NW Europeans having an average IQ of 100 and mestizos ~85-90 explains much the South American and USA/Canada/Australia/New-Zealand divergence on top of explaining other things like 'hispanic' behavior in America, be it crime or school performance.

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:15:29 UTC No. 16443644

>>16443617
>reHybridize
Ive been keeping an eye out for years for a citation I found years ago that I cant find anymore, related to Noah's Ark, and the reason for the whole story. Lineages, Hybridization, clearing the slate (unsure if known before hand or was an emergency reset), but "Nephilim" and all that. Its not "arbitrary stories", but Genomics research from Stone Age peoples. Making a people then taking a limeage of it and incorporating it into the main species, happeming repeatedly throughout Earth's history.

I remember it being a girl snuck on board, but all I can find is the movie but Im almost certain it wasnt that...but it wouldnt be the first time a movie acted as an addendum to Scripture, Passion of the Christ had a could things in it that were not stated in the Bible but were spit on. Too accurate to be "by chance". Where "Revelation" comes from at all.

That whole beefly thing...the information signal it received to become that bee's mimic and not anything else.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:23:29 UTC No. 16443651

>>16443644
the information for the beefly comes from the discrimination of the predator
the same principle allows GANs to work (remember those?)

>>16443641
>all humans are interchangeable
i hate this midwit stuff lol
i don't want my people to be replaced by other people, even if they are culturally identical (they're not)
in the same vein, i wouldn't want humans to be replaced by aliens, even if they shared our values
call it kin selection driven by inclusive fitness

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:42:46 UTC No. 16443664

>>16443651
>discrimination of the predator
Theres that "Chemists" perspective again, using handwaving Maths to god of the gaps an unknown to you. Why not become a firefly, those are full of bad tasting chemicals, animals dont eat them. Youre reaching Atomist...
>remember those
No, I researched Atomic Engineering, not Chemistry (until now, Ive been reviewing a 101 course while I LARP through Europe).

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:45:03 UTC No. 16443666

>>16443664
>The basic Generative Adversarial Networks (GAN) model is composed of the input vector, generator, and discriminator.
Ahh, yeah, no, thats hyper simplex but not axiomatic. I thought you meant;
>which is a multi-step process that identifies and gets rid of excess or damaged proteins or structures (organelles) within cells.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:54:27 UTC No. 16443672

>>16443664
i do compsci not chemistry, which is why i mentioned GANs
afaik they rely on the same principle of inferring information from a discriminator
it's a neat trick that actually works, but idk if that's all there is to it in the real world

>>16443666
yeah GANs are relatively new (proposed in 2015)
i implemented one in C from scratch (no midwit libraries that abstract over the interesting stuff) a few years ago
people need to stop using those fucking libraries - they literally steal understanding from you

i tried discord once and joined a machine learning server with thousands of members
nobody had ever attempted to implement a GAN from scratch
nobody had ever discussed SNNs before
they were all copy-pasting the same code to use the same libraries to implement the same MLPs

they were probably all indian too... disgusting

Cult of Passion at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:00:58 UTC No. 16443684

>>16443672
>compsci
>As GAN uses deep neural networks as generators, poor interpretability is also a common problem.
Anon...youre-...[sigh]...
>it's a neat trick.
Before you posted this I literally thought of saying "This sounds like a "This one wierd trick." kind of thing."

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 06:06:38 UTC No. 16443689

>>16443684
>obtain information about an unknown distribution via a discriminator proxy with this one weird trick
>indians will tell you it's impossible

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:33:57 UTC No. 16443863

Books I recommend:

The Gervais Principle
The Man who Mistook his Wife for a Hat
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions

EBOK at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:38:03 UTC No. 16443866

Shut up nerds, books are for the nerd and the nerd has failed because of book reading. The nerd has never created a good book.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:55:55 UTC No. 16443924

>>16443866
/thread
go chase pussy stop reading this loser bs

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:31:08 UTC No. 16444038

>>16443511
Harari is a piece of shit, anything you thought you gained from him was illusory.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:50:29 UTC No. 16444052

>>16443521
>anti-democracy, anti-leftism, anti-socialism, pro-autocracy, anti-liberalism, anti-egalitarianism , pro inequality
Jews are pro socialism, or pro (extreme monopolistic) capitalism?? I don’t get poltards’ contradictory logic.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:19:52 UTC No. 16444086

>>16444052
4chan isn't the entire planet.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:50:41 UTC No. 16444321

>>16443526
Sapiens is a midwit-tier book and Yuval himself comes off as the biggest midwit in interviews.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:52:45 UTC No. 16444326

>>16443511
>recommended by bill gates and the new york times
you will understand nothing if you read these books. they don't want you informed, they want you propagandized.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:29:17 UTC No. 16444762

>>16443560
It would be absurd to imply that nutrition is the difference between the average layman and von neumann for instance, which is why I can't ever take the egalitarian "it's just environment" argument seriously. You can look at the US taking this rhetoric to the extreme with "disparate impact", it's a joke.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:36:06 UTC No. 16444768

>>16444052
there's no contradiction. jews try both.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:37:09 UTC No. 16444769

>>16443511
>the world is an ECONOMIC ZONE and that's all that matters
incorrect.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:39:38 UTC No. 16444774

In practical terms any country that receives investment will have a growing economy. This can be slower than needed if the investment is spent in low efficiency projects but that still leads to growth.
Lack of investment=poverty.
Its as simple as that.
Every poor country simply lacks investment, theres no reason to believe most countries will ever get investment money, capital likes to concentrate in regional hubs, not spread out, it makes logistics much easier.
Like, if you wanted to start a movie production company you would do so in Hollywood, as the supply chain, investors, labor and customers are already there, so the more a hub growns the more its likely to attract more investment.
Its just natural for most land to remain fallow or used for farms or mines, and for industry to concentrate in a few very developed regions.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:40:10 UTC No. 16444776

>>16443547
>yes IQ exists but there is little evidence that its largely genetic
lol

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:23:33 UTC No. 16444829

>>16443547
>no scientific consensus on role of IQ in genes
>what is "g"
bro you can't possibly be this retarded, you gotta be a troll

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 22:52:35 UTC No. 16444882

>>16444774
>capital likes to concentrate in regional hubs, not spread out, it makes logistics much easier.
no, all capital wants is a decent ROI, which for a labor or consumer base depends heavily on the proclivities of the local population.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 07:48:20 UTC No. 16445438

>>16443511
The Bell Curve

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:44:29 UTC No. 16445485

>>16444882
>, all capital wants is a decent ROI, which for a labor or consumer base depends heavily on the proclivities of the local population.
The local population tendency is to migrate to where capital is, and for capital to concentrate
suppliers, universities, customers, workers, financiers and consumers tend to agglomerate in the same region, because it makes no sense to just be physically far from your working partners
Local populations dont have any proclivities, those that chase capital do so and move, those that accept a life of poverty stay where they are

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:07:22 UTC No. 16445540

>>16443511

>sapiens

kek that jew is a fucking hack. read meta narratives by jay dyer you midwit.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:59:25 UTC No. 16445568

>>16443560
>but suggesting IQ is not genetic is pretty fucking regarded of you
Technically everything is genetic

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:07:50 UTC No. 16447079

>>16443526
>picture
India was once a cultural centre of the world. Then things went really bad.
Has any nation ever recovered from a decline?

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:19:06 UTC No. 16447086

>>16447079
India and most countries in the world are wealthier than they have ever been. Anything bad that you see in India today, was worse in the past

Cult of Passion at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:58:05 UTC No. 16447120

>>16447079
Hotel KALI-fornia...you check any time you like....but *ewe can never leave*!

EBOK at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 13:44:31 UTC No. 16447143

>>16447120
Mouf now stupid fag

Cult of Passion at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:07:51 UTC No. 16447161

>>16447143
>Mouf
Coprophagic, quasi-transgendered, maladapted man-child.

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:46:08 UTC No. 16447218

>>16443511
>Yuval Noah Harari
>"(Hebrew: יובל נח הררי [juˈval ˈnoaχ haˈʁaʁi]; born 1976) is an Israeli medievalist, military historian, public intellectual, and writer"
Reminder to divest in Israel because they abuse science to push their propaganda and pseudo-science.

The red pill is to look into who circumcision rates are so high particularly in America.

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:54:27 UTC No. 16447320

>>16447086
>Anything bad that you see in India today, was worse in the past
That must have been horrific. Yet India was, somehow, a cultural epicentre. How could that be possible then? Also, why didn't India progress as fast as other countries?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 03:03:08 UTC No. 16448281

>>16447320
>Yet India was, somehow, a cultural epicentre.
Caste system.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:34:24 UTC No. 16448396

>>16443511
I thought about reading Why Nations Fail by Robinson because he just won the Nobel Prize. But I kind of think it's probably just economic autism.

Science by System of a Down: "... Science ... predicting the future of things we all know..."

I would imagine the book is just an autistic economic explanation of things we already know. High trust societies that invest in human capital and empower people to do well succeed. Low trust societies that turn people into slaves and spiral into zero sum economic bullshit do worse. The IQ question is wrapped up into this too. Since IQ increases or accumulates over generations in good societies. Not overly permissive societies of course and certainly not the modern mess that is the Western world.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:38:28 UTC No. 16448403

>>16443526
>>16447079
that pic is from 2006. This is the same location today

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 05:56:41 UTC No. 16448455

>>16447320
>Yet India was, somehow, a cultural epicentre. How could that be possible then?
Bad things and good things coexist in India. Its not a difficult to understand.
I also see you are rating the status of India in relative terms, an "epicenter", and not by its intrinsic merits, just in comparison to other places. Pretty typical ape mentality.
I mean, i could show you all the ways in which India today is better than India in the past, but you are only interested in how it ranks compared to others. In your mind, if some other society progressed more than India, it must be that India has regressed. Because it lost some position at some ranking you dreamed off.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 06:59:27 UTC No. 16448516

>>16447079
India does not even have much a written history until around the 1300s. That is to say most of what is known about them until then is from Chinese and Middle Eastern sources. They had a civilization sure, but that's far from being an epicenter.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 07:39:45 UTC No. 16448570

>>16443511
>it is impossible to understand human society without reading these 2 books
You must be at least 18 years old to post here.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:07:49 UTC No. 16449046

>>16448455
>Bad things and good things coexist in India. Its not a difficult to understand.
I am aware of that and I have experienced that in most countries I have visited.
>I also see you are rating the status of India in relative terms,
Sure, using benchmarks is easier and also objective.
>an "epicenter",
Objectively true, as it affected the culture in much of Asia and also Europe.
>and not by its intrinsic merits,
Feel free to tell what you mean. And wouldn't cultural diffusion be an intrinsic merit?
>just in comparison to other places. Pretty typical ape mentality.
Wrong.
>I mean, i could show you all the ways in which India today is better than India in the past,
Please, go ahead. India doesn't rate too well in most 4ch threads but you have an opportunity to inform.
>but you are only interested in how it ranks compared to others.
No. A comparison is a start but I never claimed that was all there was to it.
>In your mind, if some other society progressed more than India, it must be that India has regressed.
Read again, my question was not why it regressed, rather in >>16447320 I asked why it didn't progress as fast as others.
>Because it lost some position at some ranking you dreamed off.
I was not aware of some international ranking list of cultures.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:43:31 UTC No. 16449095

>>16443511
>WHY NATIONS FAIL

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:45:21 UTC No. 16449098

>>16444768
as long as they end up on top, yes

>>16444052
don't play dumb on this board, pilpul doesn't cut it

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:47:44 UTC No. 16449157

>>16449046
>Sure, using benchmarks is easier and also objective.
Your benchmarks are shifting so how are they benchmarks?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:52:27 UTC No. 16449162

>>16449046
>I was not aware of some international ranking list of cultures.
You are doing a ranking, you, yourself.
You compare India to others, and use that to compare India today vs India in the past.
What even is the logic in that? Are you comparing the india of today vs the india of the past, or the india of today vs other countries today? Make up your mind

Cult of Passion at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 17:46:57 UTC No. 16449231

>>16448403
Thats the Bhutan side, the red fence is the border.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 19:51:16 UTC No. 16449425

>>16449157
>Your benchmarks are shifting so how are they benchmarks?
Because the shifting benchmark is about how the world at large changes. My country was under foreign rule for centuries, as were many others, yet things do progress. Using year 500 as a benchmerk is therefore quite unreasonable.

>>16449162
Clearly you do not understand what ranking means. Please leave until you grasp the topic at hand. Then read up on logic. You have understood very little what this is about.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:41:38 UTC No. 16450530

>>16443511
>2 books that are without a bibliography
>understand
Yes.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 14:40:00 UTC No. 16450653

>>16449425
>Because the shifting benchmark is about how the world at large changes.
Thats not a benchmark isnt it? Why are you comparing India to the world at large if you say you want to compare India today to India in the past?
Why dont you just compare India today to India in the past, what does the rest of the world even got to do with it?

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 14:41:49 UTC No. 16450656

>>16449425
>Using year 500 as a benchmerk is therefore quite unreasonable.
It is when you are literally trying to compare India in the year 500 to India in the year 2024. Thats the whole point.