Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:11:45 UTC No. 16470825

7 days until Flight 6

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-6

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:12:16 UTC No. 16470826

thats not elon

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:13:40 UTC No. 16470829

>>16470826

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:19:19 UTC No. 16470833

>You honestly think that the per-hour production (aka productivity) of workers scales linearly past 40 hours per week? Most of SpaceX's engineers are young so perhaps they don't peak until 45 or 50 hours per week, but after that it falls off rapidly. The total production probably maximizes at 55 hours / week for the younger engineers and closer to 30 hours for anyone over 50. The only advantage to having your employees stay beyond that point is to establish a pressure-loaded corporate ethos.

lol euros

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:19:47 UTC No. 16470834

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/russia-fine-i-guess-we-should-have-a-grasshopper-rocket-project-too/

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:20:20 UTC No. 16470835

those greedy corpo suit bastards trying to turn me into a slave so they can lose money...
why won't they just pay me a full salary to work 25 hours a week
and take 3 months a year vacations
plus all the muslim holidays

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:20:49 UTC No. 16470836

>>16470834

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:23:00 UTC No. 16470839

>>16470836
those landing legs are huge!

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:23:20 UTC No. 16470840

>>16470825
>tfw Starship testing rate is about to go crazy

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:24:46 UTC No. 16470842

>>16470840
call me when they do a full orbit + landing of the 2nd stage sir

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:26:05 UTC No. 16470845

>>16470836
I'll give them points for skipping ahead to methane engines.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:26:10 UTC No. 16470846

>>16470842
Okay post your number.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:27:06 UTC No. 16470847

How big would a planet have to be (in Earth masses) for leaving it with chemical rockets to be impossible?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:29:23 UTC No. 16470849

https://spacenews.com/expending-expendables-more-launch-companies-betting-their-future-reusability/
>“I don’t think reusability per se will equal survival,” said Giulio Ranzo, chief executive of Italian launch vehicle company Avio, at the Satellite Innovation conference. His company makes the Vega C, a small solid-fuel rocket, with no plans to incorporate reusability.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:30:08 UTC No. 16470850

>>16470847
you would just have to add more stages

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:30:59 UTC No. 16470852

>>16470847
it would never be impossible, just add more stages

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:33:11 UTC No. 16470855

>>16470852
What if you run into material strength limits of stacking heavy stages.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:36:34 UTC No. 16470859

>>16470855
just make the rocket fatter

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:37:50 UTC No. 16470860

>>16470849
does his company plan to incorporate a third launch?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:46:11 UTC No. 16470865

>>16470849
>He argued that a key factor driving reusability is the high launch cadence it enables. For SpaceX, he noted, this is critical because of its large customer base in the U.S. government and its own Starlink constellation. “If you live in a part of the world with no such anchor customer, I don’t know what you are going to do that cadence,” he said.

To be fair to him, even for nations that do have that capacity, it's hard to begin to figure out where you should start with such unprecedented capabilities, but they don't seem to be trying.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:50:20 UTC No. 16470868

>>16470821
He can't keep getting away with it because he's the best that's one man embarrasses NASA on a daily basis a institution that's almost 100 years old NASA should be disbanded immediately

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:51:21 UTC No. 16470869

>>16470868
*He can

Voice to text f**** me over on The daily

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:55:05 UTC No. 16470870

>>16470865
If equador could put 2000 tons a year into LEO, they could launch their own global constellation + tourism space station + earth observation sats

You don't need any particular regional customer, since anything in orbit is necessarily global

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:56:29 UTC No. 16470872

>>16470865
The cadence is delivered by a resounding vision for the future. Starlink exists because Musk needed to figure out a way to make huge gobs of money to pay for Mars, which was going to basically be a money sink on the company's balance books for the next 2 decades. No investor is willing to part with their cash if the selling point is: "if you give me money, you won't see anything back for another 30 years and we're just going to set it on fire for R&D the entire time."

Every country that has an aerospace launcher and is looking at reusability needs to come up with some vision that defines them in the future, and then build their launcher around that, with secondary goals focused on low earth orbit delivery, station delivery, or something else along the way. Otherwise, you might as well not build anything, and just pay SpaceX money to launch your stuff--because your impetus to succeed is a void, and that makes you geopolitically not worth much.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:58:03 UTC No. 16470874

>>16470825
only a half two weeks left.

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:59:48 UTC No. 16470875

>they unironically think drumpf cares about space

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:00:02 UTC No. 16470876

>>16470872
Correct: which means there's no business reason for Avio to exist.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:00:37 UTC No. 16470877

>>16470834
they're not going to do shit.
staple of the soviet union's successor state has been to promise shit that they don't have the capacity or knowhow to do anymore.
god it's gotta be miserable to be one of the few remaining old-ass engineers working in russia, knowing that a gutted educational system means that younger generations will never be able to replace the work that you do.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:01:14 UTC No. 16470878

>>16470875
>Using "Drumpf" like anyone cares, as if it's supposed to matter
I give it 10 to 1 odds that you get angry about dead-naming.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:01:46 UTC No. 16470880

>>16470849
your rocket is too small to benefit from reuseability anyways so it doesn't matter, you're fucked anyway.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:01:58 UTC No. 16470882

>>16470875
>man whom established the USSF doesnt care about space

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:01:59 UTC No. 16470883

>>16470810
It doesn't matter if the government isn't unfairly influenced by a given company. If they lose their competitive edge than another company will pop up to replace them.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:04:52 UTC No. 16470886

>>16470875

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:05:56 UTC No. 16470888

>>16470880
the cost of solids is in their fuel anyways, so reuse is a waste of time

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:06:05 UTC No. 16470890

>>16470865
i've noticed this is a weird cope that other launch orgs use all the time.
No, re-using your rocket is cheaper, PERIOD.
and that cadence? it follows naturally as a result of your product being significantly cheaper.
more people are able to build and then launch satellites on your rockets when the entry price isn't ridiculously high.
it's a self-defeating mindset, your cadence is low because you're too expensive.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:06:12 UTC No. 16470891

>>16470875
He cares about aesthetics and legacy, and guess what that means. If speeding up Mars means that Elon gives Trump credit where it isn't due, he'll do it

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:06:22 UTC No. 16470892

>>16470877
>a gutted educational system
don't forget their ukranian meat grinder

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:07:02 UTC No. 16470895

Forgive me if this is a retarded question but why is there talk of catching the ship with the tower when we've already seen it land on its feet? Is it safer/less likely to explode?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:07:06 UTC No. 16470896

>>16470888
re-using solids is a waste of time, period. shuttle should've taught everyone that by now.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:08:29 UTC No. 16470897

>>16470892
>boys who would have been rocket scientists are instead blown up by a $300 drone
I hate war so much I can't stand it. It makes me so angry it's unreal
>>16470895
Saves mass and time. You're catching it with the same arms that will place it on top of the booster.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:08:54 UTC No. 16470899

>>16470890
They don't actually particularly care about the industry particulars or the future of it all, they just want to keep their little industrial niche open for business.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:09:09 UTC No. 16470900

>>16470895
- you don't have to carry a tower to space and back like you do legs
- you don't have to pick it up and move it before you can launch it again

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:09:46 UTC No. 16470901

>>16470895
so far the landing legs they used on the short hop tests were temporary one-use designs, they had crush cores and were destroyed after every launch.
they're eventually going to have to come up with a permanent design for moon and mars landings, but for earth landings you might as well use the cool catching mechanism because otherwise you're adding needless mass onto your vehicle.
even the landing legs they will use might only be optimized for dealing with mars gravity, which is mass-wise cheaper than lugging around heavy duty landing legs built for earth.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:09:48 UTC No. 16470902

>>16470883
>If they lose their competitive edge than another company will pop up to replace them.
If a company gains a monopoly it will always have unfair advantages. It is already ontop and to displace them doesnt just require being better, you have to be much much better and get lots of outside support.
SpaceX only survived in the early days because the government was unfair to oldspace on the COTS program. If we look at it objectively, oldspace rockets already existed and falcon 9 was a paper rocket. If thegovernment didn't foster new space companies then ULA would be the only game in town still, despite being worse than even China.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:12:45 UTC No. 16470905

>>16470897
>>16470900
>>16470901
Makes sense thanks

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:13:36 UTC No. 16470906

>https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1855988318158344467
More HaoLong pics

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:14:22 UTC No. 16470909

>>16470892
i have a friend in russia and he tells me you have to either be really poor or really fucking dumb/indoctrinated to be sent into the meatgrinder. a large amount of the important, educated population with engineering/other skills already fucked off and left the moment they announced partial mobilization (those that had the money anyway, the ones that didn't including him, are saving up as quickly as possible to gtfo).
as you can understand this has further gutted their high-skill workforce and is why i see literally no chance of russia building their own re-useable booster anywhere in the next 30 years (if it's even still around in it's current form, that is.)

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:15:37 UTC No. 16470912

>>16470909
okay pigger shill. oinklenskyy will sign a capitulation this year under the orders of trump. will you still whine and squeal then?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:18:08 UTC No. 16470914

>>16470912
Not spaceflight. No one else reply to this

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:18:52 UTC No. 16470915

>>16470909
>>16470877
>>16470892
this has got to be the most hilarious western cope i have ever seen.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:19:34 UTC No. 16470917

>>16470912
is this supposed to be bait? i voted for trump.
look you can believe me or not, but are you seriously surprised that a country that was already doing poorly before a massive war killing untold numbers of their child-producing population is doing worse now?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:20:04 UTC No. 16470919

>>16470915
Quit seething, let's have a discussion. You think they'll have a reusable booster?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:23:04 UTC No. 16470921

>>16470915
>>16470912
>russia is mentioned in a less than positive light
>instant damage control
lol, tell me how they're going to build their reuseable rocket when it took them almost 20 years to get angara operational, mr. tourist?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:23:34 UTC No. 16470922

>>16470917
who is doing worse? Russia or the ukraine?
Western forces have spent BILLIONS to stop Russia and they have learnt that nothing can stop her.
>>16470919
It's already in development and will be ready soon. By the time the operation is done there will be an explosion in industrial power and capital investment to the space sector. Russia will dominate and rival that of the US. Together with China we will take a base on the Moon. The plan is no joke and it will be built next decade. All the while the International Station will be replaced by a superior station in polar orbit of indipendent Russian design.

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:24:37 UTC No. 16470925

Holy shit the piggers are ANGGGRRRYYYY

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:25:21 UTC No. 16470926

>>16470921
Russia can do iteasily based on prior designs. You forget that Russia had the most sucessful launches of any country in the world. Angara was slow to development due to poor funding.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:25:21 UTC No. 16470927

>2 more weeks to kyiv

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:26:26 UTC No. 16470928

>>16470922
>All the while the International Station will be replaced by a superior station in polar orbit of indipendent Russian design.
I want to believe

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:26:43 UTC No. 16470929

>48 hr ATO
Two can play at that game mr. Pigger.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:26:46 UTC No. 16470930

>>16470921
not almost, exactly 20 years, actually.
the operational non-test launches before 2024 all failed at orbital insertion.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:27:21 UTC No. 16470931

>>16470922
>Russia will dominate and rival that of the US
>the International Station will be replaced by a superior station in polar orbit of indipendent Russian design
>Together with China we will take a base on the Moon
None of this seems realistic.
>>16470925
Which side is called piggers? And why? I'm not involved in this at all

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:27:47 UTC No. 16470932

>>16470833
It's been said if your work is doing what you love you don't work a day in your life

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:27:56 UTC No. 16470933

>>16470928
>>16470931
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orbital_Service_Station#:~:text=A%20new%20space%20station%2C%20named,Earth%2C%20especially%20the%20Arctic%20region.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:28:16 UTC No. 16470934

>>16470922
i never mentioned oinkraine you retarded fucking nigger, i was talking about russia, i don't care about your slapfight or that you're not willing to admit it's a hasbeen shithole.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:29:18 UTC No. 16470936

>>16470925
>NO STOP POINTING IT OUT
lol, you're mad.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:29:50 UTC No. 16470937

>>16470931
>None of this seems realistic.
so no argument from the CIA shill as always.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:30:37 UTC No. 16470938

I do not care about two indistinguishable slav countries bickering. Talk about spaceflight.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:31:01 UTC No. 16470940

why are russia's defenders so insecure? why do they immediately start comparing themselves so irrelevant countries like ukraine when the reality of their post-soviet decay is brought up?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:33:53 UTC No. 16470943

>>16470937
What mental illness do you have where you think someone hanging out in an autistic interest 4chan general is a CIA agent
>>16470933
Yeah, I remember when it was announced. How realistic is this actually happening though?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:34:16 UTC No. 16470944

>>16470922
>a superior station in polar orbit of indipendent Russian design.
Was that before or after Rogozin begged the Chinese to change Tiangongs inclination

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:35:19 UTC No. 16470946

>>16470937
is this post bait? you don't seriously think CIA agents are arguing with you about roscosmos' ability to build something they've never been able to build, right?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:37:00 UTC No. 16470947

>>16470933
>planned
>planned
>planned
do you not understand that this is why people are making fun of you?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:39:10 UTC No. 16470950

>>16470909
>>16470928
The other elephant problem for Russia is that they continue to be in denial that they no longer have the resources of USSR since the break-up. Even without any brain drains, they still aren't an empire anymore. They just can't afford to make entirely new rockets, even if they have smart enough engineers.
So they continue to limp along on 50yo Soyuz designs.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:39:38 UTC No. 16470951

>>16470943
post-soviet shitholes have this almost religious view on the CIA that they are a deity that can do anything anywhere.
basically anything that goes wrong in one of these places or anyone who disagrees with them is the CIA magically pulling the strings.
i don't doubt the CIA has done lots of shady shit but they're incompetent as hell especially now with all the DEI nonsense, they could never pull off 90% of the shit these people claim they did.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:41:44 UTC No. 16470952

>>16470950
i already had my doubts of russia pulling off first-stage reuse before this conflict, now with their further braindrain and economic decay i don't see a chance in hell of them building anything new, another independent module in space is the best we might see from them.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:41:47 UTC No. 16470953

>>16470875
Go back to xitter, troon

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:44:48 UTC No. 16470958

>>16470940
Hitler was right about slavs, truly a race of subhumans.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:45:01 UTC No. 16470959

>>16470947
you do realise what a plan is right?
it is a plan to impliment action. maybe you are used to certain other organizations lying, but when Russia says it will do something it generally does it.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:46:32 UTC No. 16470961

>>16470953
>pointing out the obvious is xittertrooning
i know you're a very indoctrinated normalfag who takes politicians words at face value but this general voted for trump because he's simply a better alternative to the decay of kamala and he'll at worst leave spaceflight the fuck alone instead of trying to destroy it like democrats would.
did...were you under the impression that this place was another MAGA rally or something? did you feel in good company?
elon and trump is a good partnership because elon gets is companies not disrupted and trump gets to be the president who brought the glory of spessflight back to america.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:47:19 UTC No. 16470962

Has anyone got tips on learning maths and physics from scratch?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:47:30 UTC No. 16470963

>>16470896
using solids in the first place is a waste of time and retarded

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:49:31 UTC No. 16470964

>>16470926
okay and now some funding is magically going to happen? that plan is from 2020 and they still haven't built the hopper vehicle
SpaceX built F9 hopper 15 years ago

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:50:18 UTC No. 16470966

>>16470959
No it doesn't lmao.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:50:37 UTC No. 16470967

>>16470922
>Russia will dominate and rival that of the US. Together with China we will take a base on the Moon
lmao
China might very well start doing a moon base, Russia won't be a part of it (see what happened with Tiangong for instance)

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:50:51 UTC No. 16470968

>>16470959
>when russia says it will do something it generally does it
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:51:24 UTC No. 16470971

>>16470961
>does the guy who founded Space Force and Artemis care about space
uh... yes

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:51:58 UTC No. 16470973

>>16470963
it's a good idea if you want to use it as a stealth subsidy to your missile industry

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:52:03 UTC No. 16470974

>>16470966
america sent dogs to bite Russian heels.
And yet Russia is still standing.
Try again.

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:53:06 UTC No. 16470978

>>16470962
just read a book nigger

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:54:11 UTC No. 16470980

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1856002262201503949
>Thank you to all those who have served, including the 1,600+ men and women at SpaceX
>Happy Veterans Day!

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:54:33 UTC No. 16470981

>>16470959
Oh please, 90% of the time Russia does anything, they're doing it for appearances alone and fake how much effort is actually going into it to everyone.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:54:51 UTC No. 16470983

>>16470974
>america sent dogs.
no, i believe russia attacked a smaller version of itself and hit a brick wall, causing massive derangement in the people that kowtowed it as the based white saviour of the white race (it's browner than the US).
i mean, if that was america "sending dogs" then russia was pretty fucking stupid as to fall for the bait.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:55:08 UTC No. 16470984

>>16470974
Greece is still standing too. It's just an irrelevant shithole like yours.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:57:09 UTC No. 16470990

>>16470974
this place isn't a hugbox for slavs, talk about actual rockets that actually exist and are actually being built rather than this potemkin nonsense nex time.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:57:50 UTC No. 16470993

>>16470984
>>16470983
>>16470981
Take it to another board, holy shit you faggots shut the fuck up already god damn you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFuqyR97BFI&ab_channel=NASASpaceflight
Koreasat 6A launching in 25 minutes

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:58:13 UTC No. 16470994

>>16470980
Every sucking vet dick this day

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:00:23 UTC No. 16470996

>>16470951
Fascinating, thank you

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:00:24 UTC No. 16470997

>>16470983
I'm not going to educate you on the illegal maidan coup or any of the brazen provocations that followed to train a country of 30 million to hate and attack Russia. Just rest assured in that and know that, back to the point, Russia is still standing and will journey into space stronger like never before, never forgetting the westen attacks.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:00:27 UTC No. 16470998

>>16470993
>Take it to another board, holy shit you faggots shut the fuck up already god damn you.
I'm talking about how much effort Russia is putting into spaceflight. Cope.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:05:46 UTC No. 16471005

>>16470997
>illegal maidan coup
i heard about this over and over again from you people but never any proof, lol.
what actually happened was ukrainians were promised more intergration with western economies, were denied that, rioted, their sitting president panicked and shot a bunch of rioters, causing more anger and more rioting, then fled the scene to russia.
nobody forced him to gtfo, lol, he never came back and they decided "well i guess we need new leadership now".
>hate and attack russia
do you seriously expect anyone to believe this?
>all that cope afterwards
look i know you have some weird obsession with this country, maybe you live there, but understand that most other people are not as delusional about the level of decay and corruption in either of these countries as you are.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:07:10 UTC No. 16471010

>>16471005
The Russians have a lot of misplaced belief that people love and respect them and that all the bad things happening to them are either The Way Things Are or because someone else cheated them. Their national psyche is incapable of serious introspection without crawling to alcoholism or suicide (or both).

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:08:30 UTC No. 16471011

>>16471010
it's sad because they unironically could rebuild the glory days with their population and resources if they were more self-critical and stopped coping about everything going wrong being the CIA foiling them.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:10:38 UTC No. 16471013

>>16470928
Could Soyuz be used to send Progress to a polar inclination? Thinking how they would go about resupplying that thing

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:12:11 UTC No. 16471014

>>16470997
>just trust me bro
that doesn't work in non-shitholes slavanon.
where's the hardware for your rockets, seriously, show me the prototype landing legs russia is working on.
oh, you can't? it's sekrit dokumints? well nobody cares then.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:16:48 UTC No. 16471016

koreasat launch in 5 mins

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:19:19 UTC No. 16471019

>>16471011
I don't understand why the don't just replicate the Chinese miracle now that China is the one exporting jobs. They could've reindustrialized taking advantage of China the same way China took advantage of us. Why would they send their boys to die to capture farmland when they could've sent them to work? War in the modern era is a fucking retarded endeavor

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:22:21 UTC No. 16471024

Décollage!

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:24:11 UTC No. 16471027

>observation

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:24:59 UTC No. 16471028

stage sep

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:25:33 UTC No. 16471029

>>16470997
I get banned for several days because i said bezos should have done more asskissing like musk did with trump, and this retard the mods leave alone.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:25:47 UTC No. 16471030

>>16471019
china doesn't have the same culture of stealing and mafia state that took hold of russia after the collapse of the USSR.
it's no joke that it's pretty much a mafia with a gas station, and any part of the economy that threatens that mafia or doesn't pay tithes gets nuked.
for instance you'd never get a spacex in russia, if a commercial company started finding success, roscosmos would likely send hitmen to prevent themselves from becoming even slightly less relevant.
then on top of that there's just stealing at every level, everyone steals from every budget and eachother.
this is the muck preventing them from revitalizing themselves.
they have enough people, they have (some) infrastructure and aren't starting from zero, they have the space, they have the resources, what they lack is the introspection necessary to stop being self-pitying bitches and get their act together.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:26:34 UTC No. 16471032

>>16471030
>china doesn't have the same culture of stealing and mafia state
Why do you talk about things you have no understanding of.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:27:25 UTC No. 16471033

>>16470998
>>16471005
>>16471010
>>16471011
Off-topic trash, clean it up janny

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:29:17 UTC No. 16471034

>>16471033
Announcing reports, clean it up janny

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:30:06 UTC No. 16471035

>>16471032
china has *some* culture of stealing but it's not nearly as bad as russia or even the soviet union, which was bad but significantly better than modern-day russia.
corruption in china/the west simply takes on less destructive forms than in post-soviet states, it's still there, it's just not as inhibiting to technological and industrial progress as russia's form.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:30:37 UTC No. 16471036

kino landing burn shot

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:30:50 UTC No. 16471037

LANDED

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:31:07 UTC No. 16471039

LANDING succesful!
holy shit can you believe it?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:31:48 UTC No. 16471040

>>16470964
here is their hopper prototype

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:32:13 UTC No. 16471042

>>16471040
Koo!

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:32:23 UTC No. 16471043

That was a very soft landing.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:32:34 UTC No. 16471044

>>16471040
kek

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:32:46 UTC No. 16471045

Shut up kike

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:33:09 UTC No. 16471046

>>16470865
>>16470849
Why are Italians so lazy? I'm half Italoan but my family has been in America for generations. I work with a Italian kid and he has terrible work ethic. I visited Sicily and they even close the fucking cemetery for siesta. Like wtf?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:33:47 UTC No. 16471047

>>16471045
who are you talking to?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:34:30 UTC No. 16471048

>>16471035
Anon, you literally cant do shit in china without first bribing every goverment worker&local party official involved.
The fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:34:38 UTC No. 16471049

>>16471045
Who the hell are you talking to

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:35:40 UTC No. 16471051

>>16470875
Yes, he unironically does. More than any president we have ever seen. More than, Kennedy, more than Bush

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:35:57 UTC No. 16471052

The SpaceX announcer this time has such a soothing and pleasant voice wow

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:36:22 UTC No. 16471054

>>16471048
China
>give every member of the city council a gold bar
>drop rocket stage on village
Russia
>attempt to start a rocket business
>executed by your state competition

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:36:38 UTC No. 16471055

>>16471048
sure but they still get shit done despite it, russia doesn't. that's what i was trying to point out.
in china (and to some degree western countries) money during the making of the project, and the budget is just inflated.
in russia, the entire budget gets stolen and usually half the hardware that somehow manages to make it out the other end gets stolen as well.
the end product is simply fucked up by russia's form of corruption.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:37:39 UTC No. 16471056

>>16471055
*money is stolen during the making of the project.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:40:24 UTC No. 16471059

>>16470886
>homosexual
>when most trannies are "transbian" or identify as lesbians
lol, /pol/chuds be clueless

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:41:24 UTC No. 16471061

>>16470900
>>you don't have to carry a tower to space and back like you do legs
>what is HLS

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:41:28 UTC No. 16471062

>>16471013
There is no reason to think it couldn't from either of Plesetsk or Vostochny.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:42:40 UTC No. 16471066

>>16471061
Something not carrying 100+ tons of cargo into LEO.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:45:14 UTC No. 16471069

>>16471030
>china doesn't have a culture of stealing and mafia state

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:46:01 UTC No. 16471070

>>16471033
we're talking about the implications that societal decay and corruption have on rocket technology, in the same way the US election affects spaceflight, this does as well, so it's on topic and you need to keep your little howler shut.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:46:59 UTC No. 16471071

>music with some random interspersed speaking

Hate this shit so much, these are the worst tracks SpaceX plays

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:47:09 UTC No. 16471072

https://commoninja.site/sfg

Only eight contestants left! Big one: Mars v Earth.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:47:23 UTC No. 16471074

>>16471069
china's only got bad recently, they were doing pretty damn well under deng.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:48:24 UTC No. 16471075

>>16471072
nobody cares faggot neck yourself

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:49:01 UTC No. 16471076

>>16471070
No, (you) are gay.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:50:10 UTC No. 16471077

>>16471076
the election was spaceflight related and so was this, so you're wrong and you're gay instead actually.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:51:33 UTC No. 16471079

>>16471061
>what is HLS
something that doesn't come back to urf, and only lands in a place with no tower

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:51:43 UTC No. 16471080

>>16471074
Deng was a piece of shit too, but at least he wasnt constantly starting shit with the west.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:55:03 UTC No. 16471082

>>16471080
that's the point, he was smart enough to let rich countries outsource their industry to them. the current chinese administration is basically doing everything they can to undo this economic miracle.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:57:24 UTC No. 16471083

buh bye

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:57:55 UTC No. 16471084

kino lightning storm below

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 17:58:22 UTC No. 16471085

>>16471083
Off to serve the glorious nation of Best Korea

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:19:44 UTC No. 16471100

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXMasterrace/comments/1gorneo/starship_flight_6_just_a_week_away/

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:24:05 UTC No. 16471103

>>16471100
2 more weeks

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:30:36 UTC No. 16471107

>>16471046
>Lazy Italians
Sicilians and Neapolitans are not Italian

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:37:48 UTC No. 16471113

>Spaceplane developer Reaction Engines goes bankrupt

>The company, founded in 1989
Imagine working your entire career
and never flying anything you ever made

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:39:03 UTC No. 16471115

>>16471079
>a place with no tower
For now.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:41:20 UTC No. 16471119

>>16471113
This is why people are working for SpaceX as indentured servants

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:42:42 UTC No. 16471122

>>16471113
Brit here, reaction engines was obviousy a scam. There is no space industry in the UK, reaction engines never got any contracts for space related stuff, Skylon was just a retarded meme. They were grifting contracts off the Ministry of Defence promising to develope the Skylon engine for use in supersonic fighter jets. After 30 years of getting grifted the government finally realised and pulled the plug. As far as I know reaction engines never even got as far as testing one of their engines kek.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:45:51 UTC No. 16471126

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:46:48 UTC No. 16471128

>>16471122
just have an impossible design and coast by on minimum funding for your whole career

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:46:53 UTC No. 16471129

>>16471126
Is this a X-37B copycat?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:47:29 UTC No. 16471131

>>16471126
Impressive!

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:50:44 UTC No. 16471135

>>16471129
>https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1855875068913734045
No, its closest Western analog would be the Dream Chaser

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:57:27 UTC No. 16471139

>>16471135
You mean it's a Chinese analogue of American and Soviet lifting body spacecraft like Dreamchaser.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:58:36 UTC No. 16471141

>>16471139
Of a completely pointless and mass inefficient capsule design

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:13:22 UTC No. 16471154

>>16471141
You are correct the mini 'space planes' are a less efficient design than capsules, one has to decide if their advantages are worth the tradeoff when persuing development of a spacecraft.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:15:04 UTC No. 16471155

>>16471048
>that big shit stain trail in the sky
u sure that wasn't india

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:17:55 UTC No. 16471157

>>16471141
fuck mass efficiency

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:28:58 UTC No. 16471161

>>16471107
They are more Italian than Italians themselves

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:36:13 UTC No. 16471166

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:42:51 UTC No. 16471169

>>16471166
sar

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:46:40 UTC No. 16471171

i will erupt with mountains of cum when starship launches again in a week.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:47:08 UTC No. 16471172

>>16471171
That's physically impossible

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:49:23 UTC No. 16471173

>>16471172
re-using rockets was considered physically impossible yet here we are.
it's quite simple, i erupt the mountain of cum, and quickly use an array blowdryers to dry and harden the outer layer of cum before it tries to find equilibrium and collapses.
your can't do mindset is unwelcome here.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:50:53 UTC No. 16471174

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:51:20 UTC No. 16471175

>>16471173
noone considered it physically impossible
rocket companies were run by grifters and boomers who don't do anything until they are written a check to do it

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:56:51 UTC No. 16471179

>>16471173
>starship has no payload
>strap payload to anon instead
>launch starship
>anon sees starship launch
>Anon erupts Mountains of cum
>this is enough delta V to launch anon and the payload into orbit
>starship can now launch payload (indirectly)

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:01:20 UTC No. 16471183

>>16470940
it's very sad, honestly. Russia lost half their space fleet when they invaded Ukraine in 2014 and 2022 (Dnepr, Zenit, Rokot, and Sea Launch the first time, and then Antares, Soyuz-ST, and Vega upper stage the second time, not to mention losing all their commercial contracts like OneWeb and collaborations like ExoMars) They had a big chunk of their aerospace industry.

Kind of amazing they can keep going with the ISS. I wonder how tense it gets up there as things transpire down the well.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:01:34 UTC No. 16471184

>>16471141
Kino efficiency out weights that

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:02:21 UTC No. 16471186

the video from USDV will be incredible

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:19:14 UTC No. 16471201

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elon-musk-weighing-trump-staffing-decisions-sources/story?id=115730434
Musk is going to run the country because Trump is a moron.
Not the worst outcome desu

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:20:14 UTC No. 16471202

>>16471186
Good God I hope SpaceX does the stream and not NASA. I scream at the screen during the NASA streams
>SpaceX has great cameras, stop cutting to a black woman talking!!!!!

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:22:01 UTC No. 16471203

>>16470821
Genuine question becwuse I can’t find info on it. Have they attempted to light a fire on Mars? I mean a traditional fire not using any weird fuels that don’t necessarily require oxygen. Have they tried to send a rover or robot with specialized tools that could either scrape some magnesium and flint onto fire start material (like for camping) or like the classic dowel spinning into firewood to make heat and friction? Or any other method which should only work on earth?


Asking because they found a field of pure sulfur on that big red nigguh the other day. And it got me thinking about shit and then I wondered this
This isn’t my home board pls no bully

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:23:03 UTC No. 16471204

>>16471203
no. sorry.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:23:40 UTC No. 16471206

>>16471201
and putin controls musk

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:24:50 UTC No. 16471207

>>16471206
israel controls putin

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:26:11 UTC No. 16471208

garbage thread

fuck you

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:26:55 UTC No. 16471209

>>16471201
I love Elon and voted Trump so I say with no malice, Elon is autistic and Trump is socially feminine so if Elon is overstaying his welcome by doing this then he'll have no idea all the way up until Trump says
>alright get this retard out of here
and they have a falling out a month before he even gets into office

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:29:11 UTC No. 16471212

>>16471209
Delete this post

Now

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:29:11 UTC No. 16471213

fuck you

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:29:44 UTC No. 16471214

Fuck little rocket girls in the butt. Make them cry!

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:30:34 UTC No. 16471215

>>16471212
I'm not being a doomer, I'm being a concerned spaceflight fan

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:34:33 UTC No. 16471222

>>16471215
>>16471209
concern troll.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:42:39 UTC No. 16471228

>>16471207
and trump controls israel.
the whole thing is an ouroboros

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:43:20 UTC No. 16471230

Lee Zeldin will be running the EPA. He's been a solid Congressman like Bridenstine was, and is the second New York Representative to get an admin job after Elise Stefanik (UNAmb). Lee Zeldin is also Jewish so posting "the Jews did this" about environmental delays is now accurate.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:47:52 UTC No. 16471234

I'll say it's just as likely that these two workaholics known for aggressively firing people who both enjoy tweeting and diet cokes are basically a match made in heaven and their teamwork ushers America into a new age of prosperity and secures the conditions needed for a Mars city through to self sufficiency. Would love to know how things are on the inside right now.
>>16471222
My concern isn't trolling just because it spread to you lol. That's how normal communication works

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:49:38 UTC No. 16471238

The FAA will be abolished completely. The final block to progress, gone

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:49:42 UTC No. 16471239

>>16471209
This is probably a very likely outcome. I doubt those two will work together very well. Hopefully Trump just puts Elon in charge of stuff that they don't cross paths on then it'll probably work out just fine.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:51:59 UTC No. 16471241

>>16471230
>jewish cabinet picks

Not

Fucking

Again

Please

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:52:02 UTC No. 16471242

>>16470974
>Russian heels.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:52:51 UTC No. 16471244

>>16470849
>"We're going out of business anyway. Why go to the trouble of making reusable hardware? That sounds difficult. If you'll excuse me, it's time for my second nap of the afternoon."
Most self aware euro

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:56:10 UTC No. 16471247

>>16470870
They couldn't build anything worth launching into space even if they had the launch capacity. If you're talking about other countries launching from Ecuador that's a different story.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:59:16 UTC No. 16471250

>>16470875
I wish Trump cared as much about space as the president who established the space force and started the artemis program. I hear that guy also talks to Elon regularly.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:05:32 UTC No. 16471252

>>16471209
All Elon needs to do is name the first moon landing Starship after Trump. And make sure it doesn't blow up.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:07:10 UTC No. 16471253

>>16471252
That happens more than one month from now

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:08:23 UTC No. 16471254

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:12:15 UTC No. 16471258

>>16470962
Read textbooks and do the exercises (this is the important part)

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:14:20 UTC No. 16471259

>>16471258
That is the part that is so trivial that is left for the reader

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:16:54 UTC No. 16471260

>>16471260
grim

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:17:27 UTC No. 16471261

>>16471040
That's a falcon 9, dingus.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:19:21 UTC No. 16471262

Hello, /sfg/. I am a white, 6'2", blue-eyed, blond-haired British male. I am going to be the first person to set foot on Callisto. My first words as I claim this new world will be "Christ is king". Mark my words.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:20:18 UTC No. 16471263

>>16470962
nigga, use the fucking internet, why does this question gets asked 99999 times every single day on this board?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:22:11 UTC No. 16471265

>>16471260
What the fuck

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:24:34 UTC No. 16471268

>>16471262
Sorry, our fact checkers have found this to be false

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:25:50 UTC No. 16471270

>>16471262
There will be no place for r*ligion in the solar system, it'll be just a thing from the past.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:26:35 UTC No. 16471271

>>16471203
There's not enough oxygen to start a fire.
Fires normally need to produce enough heat to stay warm enough to keep burning or they go out, and you probably couldn't do that with the amount of atmospheric oxygen there (basically none).

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:27:35 UTC No. 16471272

>>16471271
It is just another to be reminded that Mars's atmosphere is 1% of Earth's. Meaning that Mars is basically an asteroid pretending to be a planet.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:27:50 UTC No. 16471273

F-9 launch
>Starlin 6-69
>https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1856085347358388704

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:29:41 UTC No. 16471276

>>16471263
There's a pool of a million fatherless zoomers on this site, and when they realize their life is fucked up and shitty they get manic and make a list of stuff they should do. (exclusively nebulous stuff like learn physics or purchase a drop shipping program, nothing productive like getting a driver's license)
Where do you learn about these things? Your authority figure? Your friends? Those are the same thing. Four chan (formerly four channel (formerly four chan)). There's a science board, right? I saw a screenshot of some posts from there in a youtube video, I'll ask there

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:31:22 UTC No. 16471278

>>16470962
Ask grok. But really, use ai assistant.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:33:35 UTC No. 16471281

>>16471261
flacon* 9

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:34:36 UTC No. 16471283

>>16471265
On slow boards it's easy to predict your own post number

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:37:47 UTC No. 16471285

>>16471276
>they get manic and make a list of stuff they should do.
yeah, I sometimes get the feeling that it's just anons with ADHD who get quite excited about learning advanced stuff, but they never go through it and end up procrastinating. Think of like those people who download hundreds of PDFs "just in case" and they never read them lol.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:46:19 UTC No. 16471289

>>16471270

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:48:02 UTC No. 16471290

>>16471230
i trust Elon to clean out all the horrible bureaucrats there.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:48:16 UTC No. 16471291

>>16471285

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:49:05 UTC No. 16471292

>>16471291
Damn that's me. Recently purchased a 16tb hard drive

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:49:19 UTC No. 16471293

>>16471291
I feel attacked

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:51:53 UTC No. 16471297

>>16471289
kek, but in all seriousness, I don't know why they are so obsessed with religion in here. The fact that plebbit is full with pretentious teen atheists doesn't mean that 4chan has to go and do the complete total opposite just for the sake of being contrarian.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:52:45 UTC No. 16471299

>>16471230
>>16471290
also theres this. he seems fine.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:00:31 UTC No. 16471301

>>16471040
>FLACON 9
kek

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:02:43 UTC No. 16471303

>>16471209
its not going to happen, stop bringing this gay leftist fantasy up every thread

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:02:58 UTC No. 16471304

>>16471297
yes it does lol
welcome to 4chan

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:07:30 UTC No. 16471307

>>16471297
Secular, de facto atheist societies don't reproduce. I'm an unbeliever myself but facts must be faced.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:09:15 UTC No. 16471309

>>16471293
Have one where you're a chad with a gf

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:10:11 UTC No. 16471310

>>16471309
literally me (in my deluded and warped imagination)

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:18:21 UTC No. 16471314

>>16471214
BASED
A
S
E
D

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:18:48 UTC No. 16471316

Ares I + Orion to LEO, dock with fully refilled Starship HLS, go to the Moon

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:20:15 UTC No. 16471318

>>16471316
Unironically a better idea than SLS block 1b

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:21:38 UTC No. 16471321

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:22:11 UTC No. 16471322

>>16471321
who cares?

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:23:21 UTC No. 16471324

>>16471262
Miles. go back to shitposting on twitter

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:23:28 UTC No. 16471325

>>16471316
>>16471318
hindsight is 20/20 and constellation was prohibitively expensive. I think had anyone known there would be commercial super heavy lift vehicles they would have kept ares I online, but in the Obama era the idea of even a “heavy lift commercial rocket” was comical, much less a super heavy lift on par with Saturn V

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:23:55 UTC No. 16471326

>>16471316
launch the SLS+Orion on top of a Starship superheavy first stage.
go to mars or some shit

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:25:13 UTC No. 16471327

>>16471297
Space is a clearly Christian environment

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:25:16 UTC No. 16471328

>>16471318
What is unironic is that it would be cheaper to pay to develop a modified Falcon Heavy to deliver an Orion to LEO than it would be to procure a single SLS.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:26:15 UTC No. 16471329

>>16471322
my portfolio

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:27:48 UTC No. 16471330

>>16471322
The Tesla shorters like CSS who lost a lot of money.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:30:02 UTC No. 16471332

>>16471262
I just imagined Armstrong saying "Christ is king" and HOLY SHIT it was so cringe.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:30:58 UTC No. 16471333

>>16471309
PSA: you can just read PDFs right away
changed my fucking life

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:33:27 UTC No. 16471334

>>16471201
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856073530137526564

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:35:07 UTC No. 16471337

>>16470836
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856073111956762853

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:37:28 UTC No. 16471339

>>16471332
I just imagined Aldrin taking communion on the moon and the Apollo 8 crew reading from Genesis and HOLY SHIT it was so cringe
>https://files.catbox.moe/m71t9n.ogg

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:45:25 UTC No. 16471346

>>16471337
Depends on what your needs are. A 10 ton reusable could cover 95% of Russia's launch needs for the foreseeable future

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:46:48 UTC No. 16471348

>>16471215
>>16471209
Go be an insufferable faggot somewhere else

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:47:06 UTC No. 16471349

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1856091979115049385

I wonder if this is some kind of power play from Trump as well or if they genuinely like each other
at face value they share many of the same values and goals at least (that most people do in fact)

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:49:44 UTC No. 16471350

>>16471234
Damn they do have a lot in common when you put it like that

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:53:55 UTC No. 16471355

>>16471334
>>16471349
Don't lose focus Elon
Eyes on the prize Elon
Don't fuck this up Elon
Eyes on Mars Elon

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:53:56 UTC No. 16471356

>>16471254
I dont know about this new sideboob reveal bros

I bet removing all those attachment points if this works though makes a decent weight savings

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:54:20 UTC No. 16471357

Cool hat.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:58:48 UTC No. 16471360

>>16471322
Elon can liquify tesla to fund spacex or his other companies that aid mars colonization, and tesla R&D is helpful for spaceflight and robotics

Basically you need to pay the fuck attention before getting hostile poorfag

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:59:30 UTC No. 16471361

>>16471355
If he doesn't slay the government, he isn't getting to mars. He needs to clear this side quest. SpaceX can take care of itself for a while.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:00:53 UTC No. 16471362

>>16471332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_8_Genesis_reading

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:03:14 UTC No. 16471365

>>16471348
Explain why it's unlikely

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:03:26 UTC No. 16471366

>>16471360
>Elon can liquify tesla to fund spacex
Considering the vast amount of profit that Starlink will bring, I'd say this is now just a backup plan.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:04:31 UTC No. 16471367

>>16471360
You don't liquidate stocks like that, that's for poors. You just take out massive giga nigga loans with the stocks as collateral.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:11:11 UTC No. 16471371

/sfg/ said Starship orbital refuelling is a non-event, but Reddit is saying it's going to be a challenging task and has a lot of problems that can't immediately be solved.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:12:59 UTC No. 16471372

>>16471161
Ok, eggplant.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:13:46 UTC No. 16471373

>>16471371
They will do it first time. Now go away.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:15:26 UTC No. 16471374

>>16471371
Stuff already gets refilled in orbit, I don't understand the challenges involved in scaling up. Just bigger pipes or more time.
I think it's just been memed to death by detractors so they think it's bigger than it is

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:15:53 UTC No. 16471375

is urinating in zero g challenging?
because thats fluid transfer

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:17:04 UTC No. 16471376

>>16471375
Yes. Also not cryogenic.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:17:11 UTC No. 16471377

>>16471375
It is, yeah. NASA hadn't really solved urethral impaction until the late 90s

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:18:05 UTC No. 16471379

>>16471373
>>16471374
I'm hearing that pumping fuel in microgravity is impossible.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:20:01 UTC No. 16471382

>>16471376
temperature literally makes no difference to anything...
a fluid is a fluid

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:20:57 UTC No. 16471383

>>16471374
As far as I know all of the fuel transfers that have been done before used hypergolic propellants, so there's a lot of work with cooling systems and boiloff that's never been done before in space. Pushing the propellant from Progress into Zvezda is probably a pressure driven system and that's not practical at the scale Starship is working at. The problems all have solutions that people have put a lot of thought into but no one has actually built something that works with those ideas.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:21:37 UTC No. 16471384

>>16471379
Just spin enough to generate like 0.05g, it's that easy
>>16471382
Changes your materials options. Fuck I hate valves

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:25:29 UTC No. 16471388

>>16471384
They are already dealing with cryogenics in fueling the rockets, why would there be any concern in space where boiloff is now 1% of what it was on earth

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:32:13 UTC No. 16471392

>>16471388
boiloff is 100% of what it was in earth actually jackass..

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:33:28 UTC No. 16471393

thoughts on this?
https://www.raillynews.com/2024/11/almanya-uzay-ucagi-testlerinde-onemli-asama-kaydetti/

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:34:43 UTC No. 16471394

>>16471392
?
You are literally vacuum insulated perfectly on all sides in a vacuum

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:36:25 UTC No. 16471396

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1855835855690338645
>Liftoff at 04:03UTC on November 11, Kinetica-1 Y5 launched 15 satellites from Jiuquan. This is the first time Kinetica-1 is equipped with D3.35m fairings.

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1855954695547941348
>FPV drone photography is getting popular in shooting launch videos

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:40:42 UTC No. 16471398

>>16471396
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1855836228219990098
>This is also the first time that Kinetica-1 launches for a foreign customer with an Omani IRSS-1/OL-1 remote sensing satellite. The other 14 are Shiyan-26-A/B/C, Jilin-1-GF05B, Jilin-1-PT02A03, Yunyao-1-31~36, Xiguang-1-04/05 and Tianyan-24

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:41:57 UTC No. 16471399

>>16471396
holy kino

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:47:17 UTC No. 16471404

>>16471394
there is this little thing called the SUN!

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:47:59 UTC No. 16471405

>>16471355
I wonder how Elon got by all these years without hearing this from you.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:50:28 UTC No. 16471407

>>16471379
>gently accelerate both ships
>now you're not in microgravity anymore
now leave, you fucking retard

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:51:45 UTC No. 16471408

>>16471396
amazing drone shots. western launch suppliers could never

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:52:25 UTC No. 16471411

>>16471396
>expendable drone
ngmi

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:52:43 UTC No. 16471412

>>16471371
NASA propaganda that people have started to believe not based in any technical problems but just due to Shelby being against orbital depots so much that people started self-censoring around the word and concept of orbital propellant depot
and now people mistake this taboo with the technical problem as being difficult

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:56:05 UTC No. 16471416

>>16471393
she's cute but I already have a foxgirl wife

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 23:56:12 UTC No. 16471417

Why is starship fuel transfer depicted back to back when that makes the least sense in mspaint?

I don't see how you would get all the fuel from the tanker to the depot. Also the center of gravity is off and constantly changes.

Inline you can get all the fuel and the center of gravity is consistent, but shit is in the way. But the tanker can deploy a boom like aircraft. Or the nose can open and a seam in the TPS is accepted. Space shuttle had landing gear and a hatch down covered by TPS didn't it? So this might be trivial. A tanker isn't a crewed vehicle anyway.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:02:04 UTC No. 16471419

>>16471333
but then I couldn't collect as many

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:02:13 UTC No. 16471420

>>16471417
forgot the tanker needs header tanks but i dont think it changes much

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:03:58 UTC No. 16471421

>>16471417
Probably because that's where the QD panel is on starship and there are already fluid lines present to fill and drain the tanks.
The depot might have a QD-like contraption that's shoved into the tanker starship's panel. There's no reason to put the ships under acceleration using raptors, RCS will suffice, and in that case why couldn't the acceleration be laterally through the axis joining the two ships. The depot variant won't have a heat shield, you have all the room to build propellant settling thrusters with as wide a nozzle as you want opening out of its side.
Just open the valves, thrust and let """gravity""" carry the propellants into the depot. No need for pumps or spinning.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:05:56 UTC No. 16471423

>>16471421
or you just
boil off your fuel a little bit, pressurize the tank, and push the fuel to the other vehicle

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:06:06 UTC No. 16471424

>>16471375
pee it's easy because it's pressure-fed
pooping is what's hard, because it needs gravity to help it come out

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:08:20 UTC No. 16471426

>>16471423
Propellants still need to be settled for that to work or you're pushing mostly gas and small blobs of propellant into the other ship. You can help it along with a pressure difference, sure, but you can't get away from needing acceleration

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:12:56 UTC No. 16471432

GET THE FUCK IN HERE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEFQUq_5xRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEFQUq_5xRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEFQUq_5xRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEFQUq_5xRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEFQUq_5xRs

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:20:52 UTC No. 16471435

>>16471417
>why does SpaceX depict fuel transfer in the orientation they aee going to perform it

Think about it harder and look at the changes on the V2 ships that accommodate it.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:21:04 UTC No. 16471436

>>16471432
>Blunderf00t
Shan't. Go cry for more EU funding, fag.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:28:27 UTC No. 16471440

>>16471421
Oh i'm retarded thanks

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:29:32 UTC No. 16471441

>>16471417
Eager had a video on this a few weeks back, basically boils down to either
>Using ullage thrust to settle the propellant
Or
>Cryogenically cooling the recieving tank to vastly lower the tank pressure compared to the refilling ship.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:29:42 UTC No. 16471442

Elon Morsk

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:29:54 UTC No. 16471443

>>16471426
a slight rotation is all you need for that
in any direction

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:30:25 UTC No. 16471444

Elonicvs Muskutoos

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:44:25 UTC No. 16471452

>>16471432
This is just sad now. He's sitting in a Croatian shack with a dead end job and a youtube channel genuinely trying to convince his followers that he's smarter than a man with several successful technology companies and the ear of the leader of the free world.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:54:09 UTC No. 16471461

So why arent in ice Europan colonies planned? Would the ice not block that hostile radiation belt that seems to be the main issue of trying to live there? And at that point you would also have a limitless source of water. Im sure you could also find a cave on the surface somewhere or atleast an easy place to burrow deep into the ice. If you have limitless water, you have limitless oxygen as well? Would be a good environment for hydroponics, aquaculture, etc. What am I missing here?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:55:15 UTC No. 16471462

>>16471424
>Currently, fecal waste is not processed for water recovery, but NASA is studying this capability.
Imagine drinking water extracted from your and your coworkers' poop

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:56:33 UTC No. 16471465

>>16471462
Id rather not. Give the shit to the plants they need water too, thanks. I can stand reclaimed piss but not reclaimed shit.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 00:57:22 UTC No. 16471466

>>16471432
it's just sad at this point

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:00:36 UTC No. 16471467

>>16471462
ok, I'm imagining it. now what?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:02:16 UTC No. 16471469

>>16471461
>So why arent in ice Europan colonies planned?
When are you morons going to realize that ice moons don't have metals and therefore they are useless?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:04:12 UTC No. 16471472

800 years from now, the Martians take their first steps outside completely unaided by a pressure suit. Carbon Dioxide PPM is too high to breathe, but the air blows with a soft breeze.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:05:20 UTC No. 16471473

>>16471469
I dont take opinions from spaceplane loving nigs

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:06:53 UTC No. 16471474

Explain why you dont support aquaponics.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:08:56 UTC No. 16471476

>>16471474
Also aquaponics is not hydroponics for newfigs

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:09:22 UTC No. 16471477

>>16471472
I HATE HATE HATE TERRAFORMING
LEAVE MY SERENE DESOLATION ALONE

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:16:01 UTC No. 16471483

>>16471474
I do though.
Martians will have lots of healthy tasty fish

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:17:40 UTC No. 16471485

https://youtu.be/QxphA7uzKTA

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:18:08 UTC No. 16471486

>>16471379
It is. But Elon always proves us wrong so I give up

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:24:17 UTC No. 16471487

ITS TIPPING OVER

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:24:43 UTC No. 16471488

>>16471461
>under Europa's ice
What sort of forces do you imagine are squeezing out those geysers?
Pinned under the thinnest ice you'd experience pressures similar to the average ocean floor on Earth. When we start colonizing our oceans we can revisit.
>>16471469
You'll hit rock eventually.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:27:12 UTC No. 16471492

>>16471476
>using machines to replicate a small ecosystem for food instead of just using machines to make food

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:33:44 UTC No. 16471499

>>16471488
>You'll hit rock eventually.
Its too far down. Even with lower gravity the pressures at those depths rule exploitation out.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:37:29 UTC No. 16471503

Anyone kind of concerned that /g/ went to having 1-2 elon threads up any any time to fucking zero every time I've looked for the passed few days? I hope OP is doing ok

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:37:43 UTC No. 16471504

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:38:42 UTC No. 16471505

>>16471503
I don't care about what the trannies and commies at /g/ are doing.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:45:39 UTC No. 16471508

>>16471503
Fuck off back to >>>/g/ retard we dont want your kind here

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:52:58 UTC No. 16471510

>>16471508
>we

they/them

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:54:01 UTC No. 16471512

>>16471510
Why are you telling me your pronouns, multiboarding nigger? Do you think I care or something?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:54:03 UTC No. 16471513

So wen ship catch? They need at minimum the second tower right? Unless they hustle superheavy off while starship runs a bunch a bunch or orbits?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:54:08 UTC No. 16471514

>>16471510
how much amss savings are they getting from the trimmed tiles?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:55:34 UTC No. 16471515

>>16471514
Grams are being counted because both vehicles are still pig FUCKING FAT. We boomerspace now.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:55:44 UTC No. 16471516

>>16471488
Explain. Mines on Earth go deeper than they would with a colony and you can still work just fine in there.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:56:07 UTC No. 16471517

>>16471514
maybe a ton at most, but removing tiles at the midway point enables them to add catch hardware on later ships

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:58:39 UTC No. 16471518

>>16471499
I see it as a technology problem not a physics problem. No aspect of this is even close to solved and we certainly won't see it, but who knows.
>>16471516
Underwater?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 01:59:45 UTC No. 16471519

>>16471514
30 tons to LEO -> 30.5 tons

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:01:47 UTC No. 16471522

Starship catch is retarded, just use legs

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:02:00 UTC No. 16471523

>>16471518
I said underice. Do you need me to say in ice instead?? I literally mentioned surface level caves too.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:06:36 UTC No. 16471525

>>16471512
>me
>I

Where did your other personalities go? Why is this one lonely?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:06:50 UTC No. 16471527

>>16471523
Oh woops, yeah I see. How active is that ice?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:07:05 UTC No. 16471528

Breeding my wife is retarded just use ivf

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:09:51 UTC No. 16471530

>>16471528
a woman cannot get pregnant if she doesnt reach orgasm

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:32:30 UTC No. 16471547

>>16471530
Why lie when you know from experience thats not true?

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:06:26 UTC No. 16471575

>>16471010
>The Russians have a lot of misplaced belief that people love and respect them and that all the bad things happening to them are either The Way Things Are or because someone else cheated them.
they think a lot of the same assholes who used to mistreat them and who kept a boot on their neck are now trying to do it again after relocating

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:10:26 UTC No. 16471582

>muh joos!!
>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:31:39 UTC No. 16471596

dead gemeral. RIP /SFG/

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:33:50 UTC No. 16471597

>>16471596
>no typing for 20 minutes
>dead
>doesnt use /sfg/ specific image
ask me how I know youre a retarded zoomer from /pol/

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:34:00 UTC No. 16471598

we're doing a IFT-1 rewatch in the 'cord

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:38:08 UTC No. 16471599

wtf

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:38:37 UTC No. 16471600

>>16471598
Back to the sharty you wojak spamming nigger

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:46:12 UTC No. 16471603

>>16471599
When is he due?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:47:20 UTC No. 16471605

>>16471599
Elon Musk Heavy FT v 1.2

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:51:42 UTC No. 16471610

>>16471599
Martian chestburster about to break its way out. Very sad to see him go.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:52:56 UTC No. 16471611

>>16471599
could be worse

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:54:24 UTC No. 16471612

>>16471599
>>16471603
>disrupts the woman industry by having the babies himself
based

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:01:27 UTC No. 16471617

>>16471612
best woman is no woman

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:28:56 UTC No. 16471626

>they unironically believe musk isnt fat

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:30:48 UTC No. 16471628

who cares nigga

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:48:46 UTC No. 16471642

i care

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:59:28 UTC No. 16471646

space fat general

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:59:45 UTC No. 16471647

>>16471617
We have the robots under development, secret artificial womb project making excellent progress. Soon women will be rendered obsolete!

- x

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:04:14 UTC No. 16471648

I am scared guys. Imagine what Elon would do if he was truly cornered, and couldn't get to Mars. If someone or something more powerful than him stood in his way. What wouldn't he do?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:07:36 UTC No. 16471651

>>16471646
kek
>>16471648
he should have his own nuclear weapons, so that he could hold the whole world hostage

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:07:53 UTC No. 16471652

>>16471462
why would I need to imagine it?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:09:45 UTC No. 16471654

>>16471477
If you want to live in a shithole stay on Earth
I hear California is pretty bad

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:14:16 UTC No. 16471659

>>16471648
More powerful than POTUS? Nothing to worry about this term.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:19:37 UTC No. 16471665

>>16471659
Elon aint getting us to Mars in 4 years, so now what?

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:22:05 UTC No. 16471666

>>16471659
>More powerful than POTUS?

House and senate dems and traitor republicans can and will try to fuck things up. Shit, that fucking traitor cunt Mitch McConnell is ALREADY doing it. The fight has only just started. Trump should just point the DOJ at every sitting member of house and senate, no political bias. Tell them to uncover the mounds of dirty laundry those fuckers no doubt have and fuck them all up wholesale.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:27:00 UTC No. 16471667

>>16471666
Checked and balancepilled

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:29:42 UTC No. 16471668

>>16471504
>>16471513
They will extend the tower catch Starship above the booster.

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:33:07 UTC No. 16471669

>>16471665
he literally can. all regulation will be cleared out of the way because he is basically trumps right hand man at this point, he is on track to become the worlds richest man EVER and he has said before that spacex plans to have something ready for the 2026 window open IN ADDITION to what they want to do for artemis. by the end of trumps term when the next window opens theres no question humans will be going unless the midterms are that catastrophic but i really doubt it.

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:38:51 UTC No. 16471670

>>16471669
So Trump is Hitler and Elon is von Braun/Goebbels rolled into one?

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:46:50 UTC No. 16471675

>>16471670
No we have a Jewish Goebbels. Trump made him Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:47:52 UTC No. 16471676

>>16471675
>more jew picks

It's over isn't it. Nothing ever happens.

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:51:01 UTC No. 16471678

>>16471676
>stupid underage newfaggot
Miller has been hardcore anti immigration on Trump's team for the past nine years. During the interregnum he started his own law firm to sue institutions and companies for prioritizing foreigners over Americans.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:55:02 UTC No. 16471683

>>16471678
its a jew obsessed /pol/ack what can you expect with election season. choices so far have been great, hopeful for nasa administrator pick to be good

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 06:05:02 UTC No. 16471693

>>16471492
What if we skip the machines altogether and just use a large ecosystem?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 06:07:05 UTC No. 16471695

>>16471072
Only two rounds left: Earth v Jupiter and Evropa vs Mimas. I'm surprised Mimas made it so far. Unfortunately Marsfags lost this time. Vote now!

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 06:41:27 UTC No. 16471724

>>16471522
The mass margins are extremely slim as it is

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:15:15 UTC No. 16471743

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1856137907716661484

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:26:25 UTC No. 16471744

>>16471743
>>>/n/

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:27:12 UTC No. 16471745

>>16471396
I hate the FAA
>I hate the FAA
I hate the FAA
>I hate the FAA
I hate the FAA
>I hate the FAA
I hate the FAA
>I hate the FAA
I hate the FAA

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:30:07 UTC No. 16471746

>>16471745
I bet hes gooning in that tent

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:37:00 UTC No. 16471749

https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1856023732600426920

Story about liquid oxygen

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:49:35 UTC No. 16471752

>>16471668

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:51:36 UTC No. 16471754

>>16471599
chat is this real?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:04:23 UTC No. 16471756

Monday the 18th.
Partly Cloudy.
24% precipitation.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:04:51 UTC No. 16471757

>>16471754
back to discord
>>16471756
ermmm that was 19% yesterday

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:07:52 UTC No. 16471758

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856229511148241198

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:08:18 UTC No. 16471759

>Musk went on a warpath against the sitting president so he could launch his Mars rocket unimpeded

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:08:24 UTC No. 16471760

>>16471452
Healthy young man goes to Prague, gets pumped with massive amounts of cheap beer, doesn't feel good and changes - ALCOHOLISM. Many such cases!

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:08:41 UTC No. 16471762

>>16471752
This fotograf is doctored

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:11:50 UTC No. 16471766

>>16471762
source?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:14:14 UTC No. 16471767

>>16471766
haha so funny man

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:14:48 UTC No. 16471768

>>16471759
it was a self defense situation

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:16:22 UTC No. 16471770

>>16471768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Ui8BdIYRk

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:23:22 UTC No. 16471774

>>16471768
Understandable, have a nice day elon. Make sure to liquidate a bunch of them while you have the chance.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:26:41 UTC No. 16471776

heres your titan pic, now cancel dragonfly immediatly.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:32:58 UTC No. 16471777

Russia keeps burning money on fake project that will never fly.

The nuclear tug is designed for deep space exploration. According to calculations, Zeus can deliver cargo weighing up to 10 tons to the Moon or Mars. For comparison, modern technologies allow vehicles weighing up to 2 tons to be thrown onto the Red Planet.
Due to the characteristics of the engines, the nuclear tug slowly picks up speed, and then slowly slows down. Therefore, it will take a lot of time for him to travel short distances. For example, Zeus will reach the Moon in 200 days, but at long distances a nuclear tug will give odds to anyone. For example, it will reach Jupiter in a year and a half.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:33:57 UTC No. 16471778

people still pay attention to russian spaceflight?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:46:00 UTC No. 16471781

>>16471777
Despite their retardation in spaceflight, russian nuclear industry is both huge and competent. I'm sure they could make the engine, but the rest of that giant craft? lol lmao even

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:48:34 UTC No. 16471783

>>16471778
You better pay attention. Russia will start to create hopper for Amur-spg reusable rocket in the next year. Most likely will be 3rd nation with reusable rocket. Has many scientific projects and plans for superheavy rocket and interplanetary expansion

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:23:47 UTC No. 16471794

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/there-are-some-things-the-crew-8-astronauts-arent-ready-to-talk-about/

what happened? some mental health problem?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:24:50 UTC No. 16471796

>>16471794
>One of the most famous incidents involving hospitalized astronauts was in 1975, before the passage of the HIPAA medical privacy law, when NASA astronauts Thomas Stafford, Deke Slayton, and Vance Brand stayed at a military hospital in Hawaii nearly two weeks after inhaling toxic propellant fumes that accidentally entered their spacecraft's internal cabin as it descended under parachutes. They were returning to Earth at the end of the Apollo-Soyuz mission, in which they docked their Apollo command module to a Soviet Soyuz spacecraft in orbit.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 09:32:04 UTC No. 16471799

>>16471794
Space madness...scary

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:08:11 UTC No. 16471819

>>16471794
>"grabbing her legs and using her as an end effector"
Hot

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:08:37 UTC No. 16471820

>>16471794
they prolly shit their pants or something gross like that and they just dont want to talk about it to anyone except their doctors.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:13:50 UTC No. 16471821

>>16471820
it sounds like the zerog fluid in their brains caused a woman to go space crazy and the doctors dont want to admit it is normal female behavior

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:20:20 UTC No. 16471826

Anime rocket girls get fucked in the ass by me!

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:22:50 UTC No. 16471827

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMfLYCnvWV4
>It's GO Time! Flight 6 is So Close | Starbase Update

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:31:36 UTC No. 16471830

>>16471826
Kys

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:01:11 UTC No. 16471836

>>16471821
fact checked true and real

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:04:49 UTC No. 16471838

>>16471794
>have some minor medical issue following long duration 0g excursion
>released from hospital after one night, doctors saying you are fine
>ELON MUSK IS PUTTING ASTRONAUTS IN DANGER (implied)

you really, absolutely and truly don't hate "journalists" as much as you should

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:06:31 UTC No. 16471839

>>16471830
you just proved your gay

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:08:34 UTC No. 16471841

>>16471838
I thought NASA started that by saying SpaceX needs to focus more on astronaut safety. This was right after the Crew8 retrieval

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:09:43 UTC No. 16471842

>>16471781
>russian nuclear industry
>competent

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:14:30 UTC No. 16471843

>>16471842
Yeah, ok, the gen1 plant built on day 0 of nuke tech that failed due to commie retardation and would have been still safe if the operational parameters weren't redacted by commie apparatchik government fuckheads. versus Russians providing great reactors for any kind of use to nations everywhere over the globe for the last 30 years with 0 issues. They know their glowing rocks. Kill yourself /k/ike.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:16:09 UTC No. 16471846

>>16471843
gb2>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:16:42 UTC No. 16471847

>>16471846
after you go back /k/

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:17:24 UTC No. 16471848

Im raping cats. hallejuhah im rapen cats

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:23:09 UTC No. 16471849

>>>/wsg/5732155

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:26:42 UTC No. 16471851

>>16471843
It's Russian state policy to fund euro "green" anti-nuclear groups so they can sell more oil & gas.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:28:33 UTC No. 16471852

>>1647184
zased

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:30:46 UTC No. 16471855

>>16471851
erm, maybe don't be fucking retarded then????

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:39:25 UTC No. 16471858

>>16471851
>get fooled by dumb fuck basic psyops and remove your already paid for nuclear grid
>noooooooooooo how could they do this to us

jej, cant make this stuff up

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:56:23 UTC No. 16471867

>>16471209
>overstaying his welcome

You are saying it like Donny is just being a nice guy and doesn't owe Elon anything.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:59:27 UTC No. 16471868

>>16471851
>>16471858
Aren't nuclear plants overrated anyway? In France energy is subsidized.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:01:33 UTC No. 16471870

>>16471867
Owe? What's the transaction? Under what court of law will it be enforced? Elon was important when trying to get elected, and now he's elected. Now Elon needs him.
It might be like I said here >>16471234 that they're a match made in heaven and they're best friends for the rest of their days though

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:01:40 UTC No. 16471872

>>16471849
there are probably a bunch of bureaucrats that have done shit that is straight up illegal
they need to be prosecuted, not just fired

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:04:06 UTC No. 16471874

>>16471870
>Under what court of law will it be enforced?
Idk, how do rich people usually control/influence politicians they support?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:20:48 UTC No. 16471881

>>16471826
Fucking a girl in the ass is straighter than fucking her pussy. If someone thinks sex is about the girl enjoying it then theyre gay.

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:22:10 UTC No. 16471883

>>16471874
Blackmail and threats of making them lose reelection.
As far as we know Musk doesnt run a pedo ring, and Trump isnt facing reelection.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:22:31 UTC No. 16471884

funko pops arrived

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 12:49:45 UTC No. 16471898

>>16470847
I think 2g surface gravity means you need a Saturn V to reach orbit

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:05:29 UTC No. 16471908

>>16471826
this anon fucks

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:15:39 UTC No. 16471916

>>16471799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFGfWrJR5Ck

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:50:51 UTC No. 16471937

>>16471838
>the only reason for pissing away billions with ISS is to learn about humans and spaceflight
>we won't tell you what happened

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:53:22 UTC No. 16471939

>>16471884
how much did you spend?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:57:13 UTC No. 16471940

>>16471937
>we didn't learn anything and we didn't update any equipment to modern standards from the decades of experience :)

thanks nasa

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:59:55 UTC No. 16471941

Does Elon Musk remind anyone else of Kyplanet?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:02:19 UTC No. 16471942

>>16471937
CO2 poisoning is bad even in space, thats it
no refunds

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:03:20 UTC No. 16471943

>>16471941
Kyplanet is actually Elon Musks shitposting account with an AI voice

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:06:34 UTC No. 16471944

>>16471821
Women have a biological imperative to drill holes in spacecraft. There's nothing "irrational" or "crazy" about it.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:07:08 UTC No. 16471945

>>16471939
Like $30 all in. These are children's toys still in production. The "collectable packaging" is now at the bottom of my trash can

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:08:30 UTC No. 16471947

>>16471944
lmao

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:13:23 UTC No. 16471949

>>16471944
is it related to guys digging holes in beach sand?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:15:52 UTC No. 16471951

>>16471944
More like Russian "engineers" have a tendency to cover over their fuckups with cheap epoxy.
Remember that famous Proton launch? That had its gyros hammered in with a mallet upside down because they're only supposed to fit in one way.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:18:21 UTC No. 16471953

>>16471404
just do it at night, duh

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:19:53 UTC No. 16471955

>>16471452
absolut krunning-duger

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:21:58 UTC No. 16471957

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1856338097648071118

https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-aerospace-closes-oversubscribed-175-million-series-d-capital-raise-with-new-lead-investor/

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:25:10 UTC No. 16471959

>>16471794
he came back inside with some kind of large spider-like creature attached to his face but thankfully it dropped off overnight during the hospital stay. The crew member has been released into the general population and is reportedly in good health.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:25:13 UTC No. 16471960

>>16471754
i dont know

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:26:30 UTC No. 16471961

>>16471884
wish they stocked those in the stores near me.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:31:11 UTC No. 16471965

>>16471957
these people should thank mr Musk for the free money they are getting

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:48:54 UTC No. 16471975

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856346403729027381

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:51:02 UTC No. 16471977

>>16471975
thats crazy

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:56:36 UTC No. 16471982

>>16471977
Yeah.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:02:45 UTC No. 16471989

How is this allowed?
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1856345400208203910

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:03:15 UTC No. 16471991

>>16471975
Fuck I'm late and gay

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:04:37 UTC No. 16471995

spacex is launching every single day now and literally noone is building payloads to take advantage of that launch rate

other than starlink

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:10:45 UTC No. 16471999

>>16471995
It takes time to build up and build lots of satellites and that takes money that people outside the Department of Defense don't have yet.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:15:40 UTC No. 16472003

>>16471995
I'm waiting on Starship to become operational before building my satellite and sending it into space

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:16:20 UTC No. 16472004

>>16472003
u better get started, 2026 it'll be operational

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:23:18 UTC No. 16472006

SIXTH FLIGHT IN SIXTH DAYS ON THE 3X6 DAY OF THE MONTH

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:28:26 UTC No. 16472010

>>16471975
>>16471989
Do you think spacex can hit 140 launches this year? I thought for sure no after the falcon grounding, but if this rate holds they will.
>>16471995
No one makes enough money off satellites to afford one launch per week, except starlink of course. But 20 different entities launching 2 to 5 times a year is more than enough to sustain any reusable launcher.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:30:48 UTC No. 16472011

>>16471995
shows the market doesnt exist yet for this amount of payload volume.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:33:56 UTC No. 16472012

>>16471995
I AM the payload.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:35:31 UTC No. 16472013

>>16472011
? They could build a new ISS in a month

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:35:56 UTC No. 16472014

>>16471884
Hey I remember you asking about these, I'm glad you got 'em anon.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:37:56 UTC No. 16472016

>>16471777
watch out how the usual "skeptics" won't debunk this, and will instead focus on felon musk as always lmao

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:46:45 UTC No. 16472020

>>16471961
They're all on Amazon

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:49:01 UTC No. 16472021

>>16471995
The whole industry is waiting for Starship (or still hasn't reacted to F9). We'll likely look back on this as a weird dead spot

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:49:27 UTC No. 16472022

>>16472004
Alright off to home depot then

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:50:15 UTC No. 16472023

>>16472014
That was some other guy, I just bought them after reading that conversation

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:53:21 UTC No. 16472025

>>16472022
If Starship is a flat rate to LEO you could unironically make a satellite that's 99% purchased from home depot by mass

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:55:47 UTC No. 16472026

Does anyone have the updated version of this graph for Q3 2024? SpaceX was on track to reach +90% of all Earth payload to orbit this year, aka launching an order of magnitude more than the rest of the world combined. Surely they must have done it already.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:56:49 UTC No. 16472028

>>16472023
Mattel should hire me for marketing, I've already sold over three toys for them.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:59:01 UTC No. 16472031

>>16472025
The year of the mcmaster-carrsat is nigh

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:59:54 UTC No. 16472032

>>16472025
you'll spend more on government permits than you did building the satellite

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:00:46 UTC No. 16472033

>>16471575
haha, your type is so ridiculously easy to manipulate.
did you forget that he's a jew himself?
they will say literally anything to get as wide a range of resentful morons like you on their side.

captcha: BASEDDR2

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:03:31 UTC No. 16472036

>>16472033
Thats an 8 character captcha liar

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:04:09 UTC No. 16472037

>>16472026
This is the company that makes them, and unfortunately it looks like there hasn't been an update since Q1
https://brycetech.com/briefing

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:09:02 UTC No. 16472041

https://x.com/stoke_space/status/1856366622048694648
>Block 2 flight layout! #FFSC #sendit

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:10:09 UTC No. 16472043

>>16472041
That is a really messy engine.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:11:02 UTC No. 16472044

>>16472041
>>16472043
Raptor 1 energy

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:13:41 UTC No. 16472046

>>16472044
Pictured: Raptor 1. Stoke is doing a lot to help the case that Elon Musk's biggest contribution is pushing the engineers to work harder and make better products.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:13:43 UTC No. 16472047

>>16472026
It's going to be 99% of all mass to orbit once Starship starts production flights. And once the Martian colonization fleet is deployed the rest of the world will literally be less than measurement error.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:15:52 UTC No. 16472048

>>16472047
starship will be launching daily and NASA/US military will still be launching billion dollar GTO satellites on the F9

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:17:25 UTC No. 16472049

>>16471783
>russia will
no, russia claims they will
treating anything russians say with skepticism like we do leftists is probably a wise choice right now.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:23:22 UTC No. 16472052

>>16472031
This is quite literately true. Every small shop business tinkerer sources so many raw materials from there.
Although they generally do not provide the valid quality and proof of source certificates of testing all regulated industries require, and all that expensive shit, it really doesn't matter when the satellite is hobby-tier cheap. All that certification is only needed in medical devices, critical military, and other safety related shit where there could be BIG lawsuits resulting from lack of verified paper tails. McMaster-Carr was specifically banned as a source in assemblies from our suppliers, a frequently made mistake. Truth is, a lot of that shit comes from China, India, and other shitty places that cant be trusted, but for a bag of screws, fuck it man

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:24:17 UTC No. 16472054

>>16472036
are you new?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:26:05 UTC No. 16472056

>>16472041
>>16472046
interesting to me is that raptor is much more horizontally compact, even raptor 1's powerhead fits inside it's own nozzle diameter, stoke's engine does not.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:27:27 UTC No. 16472058

>>16472056
Raptor is optimized for packing to squeeze as many engines underneath Superheavy as they can. It doesn't look like Stoke is making any such effort, making for a lot more wire and tube spaghetti and a far lower packing density.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:30:57 UTC No. 16472060

>>16472058
seems strange that it's so important to the eventual TWR of your rocket yet this metric of packing density is often ignored when comparing 1st stage engines.
you can fit 3 whole raptors inside the nozzle diameter of a single F1 engine. raptor's greatest strength is it's thrust per square meter, not it's thrust to weight ratio.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:33:01 UTC No. 16472061

>>16472060
I agree, and the only reasonable explanation I have on Stoke's part is that they've got a breadboard engine, instead of a representative one.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:34:19 UTC No. 16472064

>>16472013
you still dont understand what I said. there is no money to afford a new ISS. nobody can afford to put up satellites at this rate. also im pretty sure F9 is too small to put up most ISS modules.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:34:20 UTC No. 16472065

>>16472041
Somehow still less of an engine-rat’s nest than BE-4

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:38:41 UTC No. 16472069

>>16471995
What other payloads are you thinking of? Since they are the only launch provider that can provide such a launch rate, what guarantees would you have from SpaceX that your megaproject would get fair priority from them? You'd also have to pay a nice premium for your project compared to SpaceX doing its launches internally.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:40:56 UTC No. 16472071

>>16472060
thrust per square meter is only relevant if you are a real space company intending to actually launch stuff, glancing at their 2nd stage design, I highly doubt they are one

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:52:12 UTC No. 16472074

>>16472071
I'm bullish on stoke. What's wrong with the second stage?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:58:32 UTC No. 16472077

>>16472074
to spiky :(
pseudo aerospiky that is.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:58:46 UTC No. 16472078

>neither SpaceX nor Tesla make their own batteries
fraud moment

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:00:14 UTC No. 16472080

>>16472074
LH2, some sorta aerospike nonsense, regeneratively cooled reentry vehicle, micro launch vehicle leaves nothing left for any margins, certainly can't go beyond LEO

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:00:17 UTC No. 16472081

>>16472078
Why would spacex make batteries? They’re a rocket company.
Why would you bring up tesla? This is the space thread.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:01:49 UTC No. 16472082

>>16472078
you talking about this?
https://www.techopedia.com/news/lg-inks-deal-to-supply-spacexs-starship-rocket-batteries
>LG Energy Solution has reportedly struck a deal to provide the cylindrical lithium-ion cells that will help power SpaceX’s next-generation Starship rockets.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:02:12 UTC No. 16472083

>>16472081
>They’re a rocket company
They're an ISP albeit

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:04:42 UTC No. 16472085

>>16472082
Ye

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:08:23 UTC No. 16472089

>>16472083
Why would an ISP make batteries?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:09:18 UTC No. 16472091

>>16472078
Tesla does, but they haven't really scaled it yet and right now they buy most of the cells from third parties

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:12:22 UTC No. 16472095

>https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/russia-fine-i-guess-we-should-have-a-grasshopper-rocket-project-too/
>to have a reusable first stage and methane-fueled engines
The rocket's name is amur-lng, so it seems like there is a certain focus on straight using their gas deposits. The only thing is that according to this page
>http://www.braeunig.us/space/index.htm
The oxydizer would be oxygen, and for a ratio of 2.77, it should deliver around 300 s of Isp, which is actually a bit higher than the oxygen/kerosene mix spaceX uses for the same thing and even has a lower mixture ratio.

Is this purely an economical decision out of Russia or is oxygen/methane a better mix? Or maybe they are not using oxygen as the oxydizer(is there anything else to properly oxydize methane)?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:13:48 UTC No. 16472098

>>16472080
Now that reusability has been proven I think it's worth exploring different methods of reentry. Anyway yeah the thing is downright tiny, it's a smallsat launcher at best. It isn't going beyond LEO. The main market Lapsa talks about all the time is space station resupply.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:14:38 UTC No. 16472101

>>16471884
nice buttplug and dildo collection

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:16:50 UTC No. 16472104

>>16471959
Love a happy ending, Blessed.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:20:14 UTC No. 16472107

>>16472078
The LG batteries seem to be a continuation of partnership. LG is must what be powering F9 or starlink currently and SpaceX is happy with results.

>>16472091
Tesla for all intents and purposes make their own batteries. It's just an extremely close relationship with OEMs.
Panasonic produces batteries in the gigafactory for example. It's panasonic doing all the legwork in the final chemistry and manufacturing processes but it's Tesla footing the bill for the factory and investment.
It's an odd relationship and I don't understand why Tesla necessarily needs LG or Panasonic when they have such a huge R&D team themselves and control so much of how the batteries are designed anyway.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:23:14 UTC No. 16472109

>>16472078
Tesla basically owns LG and Panasonic's battery divisions at this point, Panasonic even shares production space at Giga Nevada

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:27:09 UTC No. 16472111

>>16472107
>>16472109
Interesting.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:29:00 UTC No. 16472112

>>16472111
get back to work Elon

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:29:43 UTC No. 16472116

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
2h
Becoming multiplanetary will greatly increase the lifespan of our civilization and it is the critical next step to becoming multistellar

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:31:22 UTC No. 16472118

>>16472116
Based kardashev scale worshipper

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:32:28 UTC No. 16472119

Multistellar is a gay meme. Focus on colonizing our system first

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:33:06 UTC No. 16472120

>>16472116
There is an argument to be made that going interstellar is dangerous and unnecessary, as distance will cause cultural/genetic drift and your offspring can come back and kick your ass. And indeed with full utilization of the solar system humanity can support immense populations for over 2 billion years

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:33:46 UTC No. 16472121

>>16472119
Colonizing our system is a gay meme. Focus on colonizing Earth first

MEGA

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:34:32 UTC No. 16472122

>>16472120
>your offspring can come back and kick your ass
I'm still holding out hope that the previous civilization comes back to do this soon.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:34:45 UTC No. 16472123

>>16472120
or a billion times more resource using populations for 2 years

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:34:49 UTC No. 16472124

>>16472112
!!

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:35:45 UTC No. 16472125

>>16472122
>What the fuck happened to Venus?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:36:25 UTC No. 16472126

Tethered flying ship colonies on venus when

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:36:38 UTC No. 16472127

>>16472120
if theyre human and they win, good?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:38:27 UTC No. 16472129

>>16472120
How many more dead star systems could you twist into a form that serves humanity, for the cost of an interstellar war? It is not likely

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:38:58 UTC No. 16472130

>>16472126
Never. No flooooating cities either. Why? NO METALS, that's why.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:40:42 UTC No. 16472132

>>16472120
If we can do it, someone else can do it, and probably did it first. If the survival of humanity and the biosphere of Earth is a priority, we need a lot more than one star.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:42:02 UTC No. 16472133

>>16472095
they're not going to build this at all, it's a concept that will never actually be built, you'll see a half-assed mockup at best.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:42:22 UTC No. 16472134

>>16472129
>how many more factories could you build to serve humanity, for the cost of a single world war? It is not likely

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:43:27 UTC No. 16472135

Starship of the future

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:43:35 UTC No. 16472136

>>16472130
tons of metal on venus surface, same as every other planet
Just need to keep electronics cooled which is a trivial issue

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:43:45 UTC No. 16472137

>>16472134
why is she stupid?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:44:00 UTC No. 16472138

>>16472133
Although I do concur, it still fascinates me the idea of changing the rocket fuel when the tried and tested design seems to use something different.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:44:30 UTC No. 16472139

>>16472136
How do you keep electronics cool on venus?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:48:19 UTC No. 16472143

>>16472138
i mean, i agree, it's just that talking about amur feels like fantasizing about the effectiveness of some battletech mech design and it's technical details when it's completely fictional.
unless russia somehow unfucks itself in the next 5 years and steals more german scientists through a time portal i don't see them building this, let alone at scale, as others have pointed out they've had enough trouble getting angara working as is.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:49:45 UTC No. 16472146

>>16472139
magic

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:50:34 UTC No. 16472149

>>16472137
because it's cute!

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:51:04 UTC No. 16472150

>>16472139
just plug the refrigerator in. make sure your inverter can handle the startup surge of the compressor motor, wouldn't want to blow a fuse all the way out there.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:53:00 UTC No. 16472152

>>16472149
Aho!

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:53:06 UTC No. 16472153

It's super weird that the brain works fine in space

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:53:58 UTC No. 16472155

>>16472149
fair point, cats are absolute fucking morons and they're cute as well.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:54:00 UTC No. 16472156

>>16472149
>retarded
yikes, that's hecking problematic ableist bigoted language, and is just totally gross honestly, do better shitlord

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:54:09 UTC No. 16472157

>>16472150
How do you keep the refrigerator from melting?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:55:09 UTC No. 16472158

>>16472156
stop making fun of me, i say this unironically and it's not fun to joke about that stop it.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:56:10 UTC No. 16472160

>>16472157
another refrigerator, obviously.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:57:21 UTC No. 16472161

>>16472160
Why not just put venus in a fridge at that point?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:57:23 UTC No. 16472162

please stop posting all these anime girls. my pp hard

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:58:54 UTC No. 16472164

>>16472161
that's the logical endpoint.
just stuff the entire planet in a Miele refridgerator.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:00:02 UTC No. 16472166

>>16472161
but then the atmosphere freezes out and I can't have retarded floating cities

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:00:26 UTC No. 16472167

>>16472162
the artist for >>16472155
is namako daibakuhatsu also known as takorin

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:01:37 UTC No. 16472169

>>16472167
Shut up nigger

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:01:52 UTC No. 16472170

>>16472139
Cool Venus.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:02:13 UTC No. 16472171

>>16472166
flood the atmosphere with silicate particles before freezing it, turning the entire atmosphere into a frozen aerogel that can keep suspending your floating city.
now you can have your memeballoons and access to the surface, best of both worlds.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:02:41 UTC No. 16472173

Ten years ago today.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:04:27 UTC No. 16472175

>>16472157
use a special space refrigerator, but this idea has merit >>16472160. The Matroyshkooler concept is currently in the theoretical stage of development

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:04:44 UTC No. 16472176

>>16472139
you pump cool water down from the habitat, it boils, goes back up on its own, etc

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:05:45 UTC No. 16472178

>>16472169
make me you scrawny faggot.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:06:58 UTC No. 16472179

>>16472134
This is true though. The world wars were a lesson we had to learn, but we learned it. Innovation and industrialization is the way forward, and capturing more farmland is as antiquated as the musket.
Also, the people that inhabit the stars will be the descendants of Mars. The elon of Epsilon Eridani would not make the same decisions as the chancellor of Germany

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:08:39 UTC No. 16472181

>>16472178
fuckfuckfuck

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:11:33 UTC No. 16472183

>>16472179
The problem is people can become so disconnected both genetically and ideologically that they would think nothing of hitting your shit with planet killers or building grey goo or other horrific shit. Its safer to just build tall in one solar system.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:12:29 UTC No. 16472185

The people voted for major government reform

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:14:05 UTC No. 16472186

>>16472160
This is basically how we cool things down to cryogenic temperatures now is it not? 2 or so heat pumps in series. If it can go from 70f to -350f no reason it can’t go from venus temps to just cool enough for your electronics to function.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:14:08 UTC No. 16472187

How long until we get an anime where LITERALLY ME gets stuck on Mars with half a dozen cute girls?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:14:26 UTC No. 16472188

>>16471794
got preggers from space sex and had an abortion

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:16:06 UTC No. 16472191

>>16472183
>grey goo

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:16:55 UTC No. 16472192

>>16472191
When we've reach the point of interstellar colonization then all sorts of wacky shit can happen. Thinking otherwise is cope.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:17:46 UTC No. 16472193

>>16472135
why dont theymake the end more bulbous? surely that would reduce peak heating on the nose as well as give more payload space.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:20:36 UTC No. 16472198

>>16472185
That sounds like cap. The majorities in senate and house look to be slim.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:21:38 UTC No. 16472199

>>16472192
le magic disassembler nanobots ain't happening

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:22:56 UTC No. 16472201

>>16472199
Fine then relativistic missiles or rocks. There is little benefit to leaving the solar system.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:23:39 UTC No. 16472202

>>16472199
is this art a meme or something?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:24:15 UTC No. 16472203

>>16472201
>There is little benefit to leaving the solar system.
Fine, you can stay behind like a loser if that's what (you) want.