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Anonymous No. 16472823

Starship launches to become a weekly event thanks to Musk's partnership with Trump edition
Next launch in 5 days

previous >>16470821

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Anonymous No. 16472826

JUST

Anonymous No. 16472827

Probability of SLS cancellation?

Anonymous No. 16472829

>>16472827
50/50, for real this time

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Anonymous No. 16472831

It's just getting started.
>>16472827
50/50, either it happens or it doesn't.

Anonymous No. 16472834

man, the SLS discord is not taking the news well lmao

Anonymous No. 16472837

>>16472834
Poast

Anonymous No. 16472838

Elon Won

Anonymous No. 16472839

>>16472834
please screenshot

Anonymous No. 16472840

>>16472834
I dont care about trannies seething

Anonymous No. 16472841

>>16472827
I think SLS will get the axe. Orion and EUS will be kept around and reintegrated into Falcon Heavy. It's a behemoth of a capsule, but a useful one nonetheless and has gone around the moon successfully at least once. It does have heatshield issues, but those can be solved at a cost far lower than $4Bn/launch for SLS Block 1 with a $2Bn launch tower.

Also, I think SpaceX will inevitably turn Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy over to the US government to manage and operate, while it owns Starship and all successor architectures. This gives USG a dissimilar redundancy for its own flights and missions, independent of Starship, and SpaceX will become another supporting contractor to USG as basically glorified tech support for whenever something goes wrong with an upper or core stage. Even if Starship is flying routinely to Moon and Mars, Falcon 9 and Heavy are still way too godly to shelf, considering there's no equivalent flight hardware across the continental US that can match operational reliability AND flight capability.

Anonymous No. 16472843

>>16472831
Holy shit is that graph accurate? What final payload for Starship are you assuming?
>>16472840
I do, >>16472834 please show us

Anonymous No. 16472845

>>16472840
i care about trannies seething
>verification not required

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Anonymous No. 16472846

>>16472823
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

Anonymous No. 16472847

>>16472841
Block 2 is gone for certain. Maybe SLS will run on until Artemis 5-6 thats already booked/paid for.

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Anonymous No. 16472848

>>16472846
>with a starship, you can go anywhere you want

Anonymous No. 16472849

I'm a useless NASA employee, I'm /worried/ guys.

Anonymous No. 16472852

>>16472841
>Orion and EUS will be kept around and reintegrated into Falcon Heavy
too much of a hassle, that would take lots of resources that could be instead focused on improving starship. Although, I can see Musk accepting this alternative if Orion ends up being too difficult to kill. I hope they might just as well go with Starship instead of Falcon Heavy.

Anonymous No. 16472854

>>16472843
>Holy shit is that graph accurate? What final payload for Starship are you assuming?
Yeah.
429,125kg for Falcon 9
64,805kg for everything else
100t Starship payload
Since this is quarterly, that would be 6 Starship launches or 600,000kg

Anonymous No. 16472855

>>16472840
you would simply have hidden that post if that were true

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Anonymous No. 16472857

Reposting end thread life news

Anonymous No. 16472858

the other thread is ALREADY dead wtf why did janny insta-archive it as soon as we staged

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>>16472857

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>>16472849

Anonymous No. 16472864

>>16472858
board is moving quick today, for the same reasons we're all excited here
>>16472854
that's an insane visual, thanks

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>>16472857
>>16472861

Anonymous No. 16472866

>>16472854
>Since this is quarterly
ohh I see now. Now imagine the future charts including all the gorillion tanker launches.

Anonymous No. 16472867

>>16472861
>just move the staff to another HR department

dismantling successful lul

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Anonymous No. 16472869

SLS joins the ranks of legendary rockets that got to orbit once and never again, like Black Arrow!

Anonymous No. 16472870

>>16472869
same fate as the deathstick, I mean, Ares I.

Anonymous No. 16472871

>>16472867
probably civil suits if they outright fired them (since they'll all be non-white straight males). But if you think the current HR department will allow newcomers to have any power or take their resources then lol. lot of them will get performance reviewed out

Anonymous No. 16472872

>>16472857
Remember how "Biden will go after SpaceX/Meme" was considered schizopost? But was the actual truth all along? Now we have Musk in the whitehouse. Biden missed out by antagonizing Musk and now Trump will become the great president who brought humans to the Moon and Mars.

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Anonymous No. 16472873

what ridiculous time we live in

Anonymous No. 16472876

>fluke of economics and politics leads to NASA funding for space startups
>15 years later one of those companies has surpassed NASA on launch by several orders of magnitude
what are the implications of Elon reformatting the entire government in the same way?

Anonymous No. 16472877

>>16472871
They aren't changing anything, DEI is all across the company

Anonymous No. 16472879

>>16472872
Didn't biden say some snarky comment about elon and rockets and it sounded like he didn't know starship/hls was apart of the current administration's moon mission?

Anonymous No. 16472880

>>16472876
Don't get your hopes up. When it comes down to it, government is inefficient on purpose.

Anonymous No. 16472881

>>16472877
that's been a thing since the 60s friend

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Anonymous No. 16472882

why doesn't the google ai work for this question?

Anonymous No. 16472883

>>16472879
I don't think Biden ever once acknowledged anything about space or spacex or nasa or any of it. His press secretary did at one point, but was forced to apologize for it.

Anonymous No. 16472884

>>16472879
"Good luck with YOUR moon rocket" or some snarky shit.

Anonymous No. 16472885

>>16472876
It blows my mind that it feels like neil armstrong & others were right. In a normal universe all private providers would've failed like boing. They would've done that shit on purpose just to claim fixed cost doesn't work. Commercial space only worked because elon got insanely rich and is a genuine futurist.

Anonymous No. 16472886

>>16472854
Another thing to consider is the Chinese ramping up their numbers later this decade, something that Elon has said whenever that upmass-to-orbit graph has been brought up. Basically, SpaceX would for sure still dominate the industry, with 90-99% of launched mass, while China gets the remainder. The rest of the industry will be a rounding error.

Anonymous No. 16472887

>>16472632
AAHHH IM GOING CRAZY SAVE ME THUNDERF00T AAAAHHHHHHH

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Anonymous No. 16472888

>>16472882
grok W even with the fake tweet lol

Anonymous No. 16472889

>>16472882
https://search.brave.com/search?q=which+president+started+the+artemis+program&&summary=1

Anonymous No. 16472890

>>16472870
>LES fires, capsule clears, as booster breaks up
>Orion chutes pop, just in time for the still-burning SRB fuel fragments to fall on them, burning massive holes
idk sounded pretty kino to me

Anonymous No. 16472891

Can someone explain space force in colorado vs alabama and tell me what my opinion is

Anonymous No. 16472893

If SLS is cancelled, what is left with Boeing? Starliner is mostly dead already.

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Anonymous No. 16472895

>>16472882
This is what Copilot says.

Anonymous No. 16472896

>not THE GREAT ELON MUSK edition
>not SLS CANCELLATION edition

What the fuck you stupid nigger I'm going to strangle you

Anonymous No. 16472897

Vivek is a fucking idiot

Anonymous No. 16472898

>>16472896
SLS is just rumor right now. THE GREAT ELON MUSK edition is appropriate lmao. A missed chance, maybe next thread we might get some more confirmation on SLS

Anonymous No. 16472899

>>16472885
great man theory proven once again
>>16472893
oh shit I forgot an SLS cancellation would basically be Boeing done with space. they're trying to get out of Starliner, they're trying to sell ULA, what else is there?

Anonymous No. 16472903

>>16472897
The guy from Morrowind?

Anonymous No. 16472904

>>16472852
I proposed the idea as Musk basically offering a fig leaf to the team overseeing SLS contracts and JPL or whatever at NASA. Where they can continue their project, but on a platform that has the flexibility to launch capsule and additional hardware up at a cadence vastly superior to SLS. NASA's biggest weakness is that the bulk of its budget gets dumped into SLS, which is a fire pit for cash--while its other programs and contracts suffer trying to suck the last drops of milk from a nearly expended tit. It's unhealthy and unsustainable. SLS has to go, but other programs related to it that add onto it or are expected to interact with it in space, shouldn't, if they're useful.

Anonymous No. 16472905

>>16472897
republicans are going hard for the curry vote. please understand

Anonymous No. 16472906

>>16472897
Name some dumb things he has said about space flight

Anonymous No. 16472907

>>16472897
I want to say the purpose of keeping him around is for the whole good cop bad cop idea. Elon's the good cop, Vivek's the bad cop. His job will be to do the politicking while Musk does the questioning and slashing.

Anonymous No. 16472909

Can Falcon Heavy deliver the Gateway to the NRHO orbit?

Anonymous No. 16472910

>>16472909
Falcon Heavy can deliver all of Gateway to NHRO. It could do it in under a year too. But it's not the limiting factor.

Anonymous No. 16472911

>>16472909
no
HALO+PPH is being sent to a, iirc, 100,000 km apogee elliptical orbit, that's FH's limit. that's still a good 800 m/s short of NRHO

Anonymous No. 16472915

>>16472911
PPE* sorry.

It could probably launch I-Hab to TLI but definitely not do the NRHO insertion itself.

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Anonymous No. 16472916

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1856538263915225194

Anonymous No. 16472917

>>16472907
he's an idiot at politicking too.

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Anonymous No. 16472918

>>16472916
Basically this
Bridenstack without the ICPS
Orion falls within the structural margin for the USDV btw

Anonymous No. 16472919

>>16472917
Well, he's being setup to fail. It's kinda obvious.

Anonymous No. 16472920

>>16472897
known among knowers as a CIA asset. also look closely, he's basically doing an impression of a person all the time

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Anonymous No. 16472921

You're laughing. Thousands of SLS contractors are about to be out of a job and you're laughing?

Anonymous No. 16472922

>>16472916
or just cancel orion altogether since it costs too much

Anonymous No. 16472923

>>16472909
A falcon heavy with only like 30% stretched upper stage tanks could do everything including sending Orion to NRHO, massively narrow the gap between 3 stick recovery FH and 2 stick recovery FH and give high energy architecture faggots an aneurysm.
That they never built a custom upper stage for FH is the greatest blunder.

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Anonymous No. 16472925

>>16472917
if that were true he wouldn't be part of the trump admin as after the primary he was fully behind him

Anonymous No. 16472926

>>16472925
He just went behind the candidate that was universally favoured.(before Harris)
Plus trump needed money for his campaign, it was a perfect match.

Anonymous No. 16472927

Musk fought the US government and he won

Anonymous No. 16472928

>>16472897
>>16472917
You could've explained why in your two off topic posts but you didn't. Thanks for the seethe

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Anonymous No. 16472929

>>16472921
Who will buy the river rocks now???

Anonymous No. 16472930

>>16472926
>Plus trump needed money for his campaign
did he? they finished pretty solidly in the black

Anonymous No. 16472931

>>16472929
Why couldn't they use gravel or a road again

Anonymous No. 16472933

>>16472849
You could try being useful.

Anonymous No. 16472935

>>16472928
Axovant was pure fraud and he completely failed at running Roivant.
He's a retard.

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Anonymous No. 16472936

>>16472879
>>16472884
You're thinking of this

Anonymous No. 16472938

>>16472927
My man, it hasn't even BEGUN. He's got a target the size of Jupiter on his back now and is about to piss off a boatload of the worst kind of people.

Anonymous No. 16472939

>>16472931
Because the gravel wouldn't come from Shelby's district.

Anonymous No. 16472946

>>16472931
There's road and gravel underneath. It's actually four layers of stuff.

Anonymous No. 16472949

>>16472939
I'm so glad he's dead

Anonymous No. 16472959

>>16472791
>>16472797
Brave people in a now vanished timeline sent a single proton back in time and made Trump turn his head at that exact moment. They did it knowing they would be erased, but that it was for the greater good.

Anonymous No. 16472963

>>16472959
It does feel like what's happening now is the sort of thing that doesn't happen. Nothing ever happens posters on suicide watch

Anonymous No. 16472966

>>16472963
Ot their groomed retard tranny assassin was always meant to fail. Didn't expect to have him get that close. They rolling back the agenda for a bit to make sure their dollars are worth something for a bit longer and that the country doesn't rip itself apart in the near future. Turning down the temperature for the frogs.

Elon might be playing them though, 4d chess and all that.

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Anonymous No. 16472969

So some guy drops in and says SLS discord is seething and when like 6 people ask for screenshot its not posted? Faggot move, anon.

Anonymous No. 16472975

I'm kind of surprised all the Starship flights had very little delay once the fueling has started. Its incredible for such a massive new project like this to have very little delay in fueling procedure and launch process.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16472976

Vote now: https://commoninja.site/sfg

Come on, EVROPA!

Anonymous No. 16472977

>>16472897
>Vivek is a fucking idiot
Education: Yale Law School (2013), Harvard University (2007)
Net worth: 1 billion USD (2024) –

hm..your statement doesn't seem to check out

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Anonymous No. 16472978

I just read the news. Holy fuck.

Anonymous No. 16472979

>>16472907
Elon is absolutely the bad cop lmfao

Anonymous No. 16472980

God, Artemis is such a fucking mess. When it came to Apollo, everyone knew they had a job to do and they put their heads down and got on with it.

This is ultimately a result of DEI (and don't try and convince me otherwise, trannies, because I saw the footage of Apollo behind the scenes and it was 99.9% young white males).

Anonymous No. 16472981

>>16472976
fuck off ip grabber
>>16472977
>he thinks going to ivys equates to intelligence

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Anonymous No. 16472982

>>16472949
he's alive and well, turned 90 this year

Anonymous No. 16472983

>>16472977
>>16472935

Anonymous No. 16472984

>>16472980
>DEI
It really predates the current DEI ascendancy. Artemis/Constellation is just a big corporate welfare program that occasionally tries to do something spaceflight related

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Anonymous No. 16472987

https://x.com/edwards345/status/1856510214113206473

Unstoppable Force > Immovable Object. Finally solved the age old conundrum.

Anonymous No. 16472988

>>16472976
feels good being the tiebreaker vote between jupiter and e*rth

Anonymous No. 16472995

>>16472841
>I think SLS will get the axe. Orion and EUS will be kept around and reintegrated into Falcon Heavy. It's a behemoth of a capsule, but a useful one nonetheless and has gone around the moon successfully at least once. It does have heatshield issues, but those can be solved at a cost far lower than $4Bn/launch for SLS Block 1 with a $2Bn launch tower.
Nah. Just scrap Orion entirely. It'll take a long while for NASA to crew certify ground-launched Starships (not to mention re-entry with crew), so until then just send people up on a Dragon capsule and dock in Earth orbit with (a second) HLS that can be used as a glorified Earth-Moon shuttlebus. Return astronauts to Earth on Dragon via the same HLS shuttlebus.

>Even if Starship is flying routinely to Moon and Mars, Falcon 9 and Heavy are still way too godly to shelf, considering there's no equivalent flight hardware across the continental US that can match operational reliability AND flight capability.
Starship is planned to have lower operating costs than Falcon. What would be the point?

Anonymous No. 16472996

>>16472987
>this work will conclude no later than July 4th, 2026

WHAT? They not even giving my man the full four fucking years???? Only two and a half to try and dismantle the demon system?

Anonymous No. 16472997

>>16472996
Wait bad drunk maths, ONE AND A HALF YEARS????


it's

Fucking

Over

Anonymous No. 16472999

>>16472996
>>16472997
The dismantling needs to happen quickly to give as little time to react as possible. Planning for it to take longer than the midterms would open up a big possibility for obstruction. Besides, you know how it is. Plan to take four years and it'll end up taking eight.

Anonymous No. 16473000

>>16472997
How many times have I fucking told you to stop hitting the sauce you dumbass

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Anonymous No. 16473003

kikeIV9250 is now in full SLS shill mode, you fucking shitbird paycheck leech.

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Anonymous No. 16473006

>>16473003
>literal who

Anonymous No. 16473007

>>16473006
Hes a known /sfg/ poster, mr newfag

Anonymous No. 16473008

>>16473007
OK retard

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Anonymous No. 16473009

Elon, don't be a faggot.

Anonymous No. 16473010

>>16473009
It's true tho

Anonymous No. 16473011

I'm scared someone will assassinate Elon. That would mean the end of Starship and the mission to Mars for decades, if not centuries. He does have decent bodyguards with him all the time, right?

Anonymous No. 16473013

>>16473011
yes and has said he has increased it lately and joked about it, he is very aware

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16473015

>>16472988
Feels good with a cock up my asshole

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Anonymous No. 16473018

Just woke up and saw the SLS news
I hope Berger still has his operatives in the SLS discord, I want to see the seething

Anonymous No. 16473024

>>16473013
Man, what can you even do against a real hardened glowie though? Some dude shoots you with idk some fucking polonium injector nano dart from his cellphone as he walks past. Get one of those fibre optic spool controlled drones and it drop it on his head. I'm sure I haven't even scratched the surface.

Anonymous No. 16473026

>>16473024
The glowies are participating. Agent Ramaswamy is there to make sure Musk doesn't meddle with the wrong funding streams.

Anonymous No. 16473029

>>16473015
Clean it up janny

Anonymous No. 16473033

>>16472865
Both Falcon Heavy and New Glenn should have the ability to get Orion to LEO, though Falcon Heavy would require some structural mods.

Anonymous No. 16473038

>>16473033
Falcon would some customization to lift a payload as Fat as Orion. Vulcan wouldn't have any difficulty mounting it, but Orion's 26 tons is right at the edge of what a VC6 is capable of lifting; some stretching to improve performance might be required. New Glenn is overkill, and with a third stage might be able to flat out replace SLS.

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Anonymous No. 16473050

>>16472929
Why they never went with trains? Even the Vulcan pad uses them IIRC

Anonymous No. 16473051

>>16473038
The launch mass of a complete Orion spacecraft is ~37 tons.

Anonymous No. 16473052

>>16473051
>37 tonnes

Absolute pork barrel fat fuck. Kill it Elon inshallah.

Anonymous No. 16473053

>>16473050
Those big SRB are incredibly heavy.

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Anonymous No. 16473057

>>16472872
>No you don’t understand! They didn’t cancel any missions and just stalled them while wasting years shilling for global warming satellites! They love space just like you! All the bad stuff was the orange guy’s fault for promising too much!

Anonymous No. 16473062

>>16473009
Nuclear is technically solar with extra steps.

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Anonymous No. 16473064

>>16473053
pussy

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Anonymous No. 16473075

>>16472886

Soon....

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Anonymous No. 16473084

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/for-the-second-time-this-year-nasas-jpl-center-cuts-its-workforce/

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Anonymous No. 16473086

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/12/rocket-lab-rklb-q3-strong-revenue-growth-first-neutron-deal.html

Anonymous No. 16473089

>>16473075
This rig seems more reliable and sensible than the chopsticks, but if SpaceX can make the catching tower a success then nothing will beat it because catching a rocket mid air is fucking awesome.

Anonymous No. 16473091

>>16473009
What are the top 10 in order best sources of energy for the next 30 years

ChatGPT said:
Here’s a ranking of the top 10 energy sources projected to play crucial roles over the next 30 years, based on sustainability, energy output, and potential to scale globally.

Solar Power: Solar energy is abundant, renewable, and now one of the cheapest sources of energy in many parts of the world. Advances in solar efficiency and storage are set to make it the leading energy source, especially in sun-rich regions.

Wind Power: Onshore and offshore wind farms have become very cost-effective and produce large amounts of electricity with low emissions. Offshore wind in particular is expanding due to consistent wind speeds and large coastal energy demands.

Hydropower: As the largest source of renewable electricity globally, hydropower remains essential, especially in regions with significant river systems. Modernization of existing plants and pumped storage advancements will maintain its importance.

Nuclear Power: Nuclear provides consistent, high-output energy with minimal greenhouse gas emissions. While safety concerns remain, advancements in small modular reactors (SMRs) and fusion technology could greatly increase nuclear’s role as a clean energy source.

Geothermal Energy: Although geographically limited, geothermal offers stable and consistent power output. New technologies could expand geothermal potential to more locations, making it a reliable complement to intermittent renewables like wind and solar.

Battery Storage: Although not a direct energy source, battery storage systems are crucial for making renewable sources viable by storing excess power and managing grid reliability. Advances in lithium-ion, solid-state, and flow batteries will be essential for grid-scale applications.

Bioenergy:

Green Hydrogen:

Ocean Energy:

Advanced Natural Gas with Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS):

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Anonymous No. 16473096

>>16473013
>>16473011
https://x.com/america/status/1856525164873150805

Anonymous No. 16473097

>>16472841
>SpaceX will inevitably turn Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy over to the US government to manage and operate
This will never happen

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Anonymous No. 16473099

>>16473091
>KosherGPT

Anonymous No. 16473100

>>16473097
Yeah, no way unless SpaceX goes bankrupt or something and even then someone will have to buy it. By that time, Starship would be more appropriate buy order. And this bankruptcy scenario is entirely unlikely now.

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Anonymous No. 16473101

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856526206729953764

lmao I guess this is one way of circumventing the conflict of interest
just delete the programmes, nobody gets subsidies

Anonymous No. 16473102

>>16473101
He's going to go nuclear isn't he. Man, it's going to be beautiful if it happens.

Anonymous No. 16473103

>>16473050
I used to be so scared of the world, to grow up and be a man in the world, but if you just study a bit you get to build cool big complicated metal things and just be a cool guy secure as yourself as a builder, designer, operator, laison, of child's dream toys, I played with all kinds of erector sets and excavators in sand pits, cool toy trains, it really is so impressive the details of manufacturing, machining, workability with metals for various purposes and tasks, to work with very complex things, that must fill one with pride and wholeness, completeness, okayness, purpose, every thing is good and okay when you are a confident and secure member of something extraordinary,.sophisticated, awe inspiring, and excellent

Anonymous No. 16473105

>>16473101
Benevolent dictator vibes

Anonymous No. 16473106

>>16472916
Why not use a dragon to dock with the HLS in leo?

Anonymous No. 16473108

>>16473101
D

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Anonymous No. 16473111

>>16473101
>Elon spends the next two months compiling a list
>gets added to the administration
>deletes thousands of programs and agencies day one
>resigns

Anonymous No. 16473112

>>16473089

The China rig has no divert options. In straight down, and if you're off, you take out the structure. At least the Zilla has a late divert option to try and save the tower, and a wider approach corridor.

Anonymous No. 16473114

>>16473111
His final act of office, having achieved his goals of streamlining, is to delete his own role as there is no longer a purpose to it.

>>16473091
>gives up towards the end
lmao

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Anonymous No. 16473116

> Berger - My sense is that the solution would be launching Orion on one rocket (probably FH, from 39A) and then docking with a (separately launched) Centaur V and boosting it to the Moon.

Pic kinda sorta related.

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Anonymous No. 16473117

>>16473116
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1856538263915225194

Anonymous No. 16473118

>>16473101
America is capitalistic and competitive. 45 bil for an undelivered promise, while Elon runs a very company that routinely provides that service, I dont know at what cost I'll try to check, how many starlinks for rural internet access

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Anonymous No. 16473119

>>16473117
Welcome back, EDS.
Beautifully poetic

Anonymous No. 16473120

>>16473114
>>gives up towards the end
>lmao
To be fair I deleted that content because the post was over size limit

Anonymous No. 16473121

>>16473118
> I dont know at what cost I'll try to check, how many starlinks for rural internet access

Could have provided terminals for every flyover hick that wanted it for that money. And it's all just fucking disappeared.

Yeah

Anonymous No. 16473123

>>16473118
"The cost of building and launching 1,000 Starlink satellites is estimated to be over $8 billion per year. This is due to the cost of replacing satellites that fall out of the sky, as well as the cost of launching them:
Satellite cost: Each satellite costs around $500,000 to build. The V2 mini version costs more due to its larger size and capabilities.
Launch cost: Each Falcon 9 launch costs around $67 million.
Annual cost: Around $8.2 billion per year is needed to maintain the full strength of the satellite constellation"

Anonymous No. 16473126

>>16473121
>And it's all just fucking disappeared.
Seriously how, isn't there any accounting? A billion dollars is a staggering amount of money, many people could probably live on a million or more for a lifetime, at least greatly greatly help them, 45 bil is crazy, how many houses that can buy

Anonymous No. 16473127

>>16473121
Do many people still not have decent internet access in middle America? How many people about were/are clamoring for this

Anonymous No. 16473128

>>16473126
>45 bil is crazy, how many houses that can buy
45,000 million dollar homes

Anonymous No. 16473129

>>16473121
It's a glacial government program. But there is a difference between earmarking and spending. They haven't spent tens of billions for nothing as le wokeness guy suggests.

Anonymous No. 16473131

>>16473118
In terms of user hardware, that's enough to buy every household in the US a terminal.
It's the same satellites covering every spot on earth over time, they couldn't and don't cluster above cities.
So you could potentially connect rural areas in their entirety with satellites that are sitting around doing nothing since the constellation as a whole is sized to handle urban bandwidth.

Anonymous No. 16473132

>>16473129
Don't care, deleted, goodbye parasite.

Anonymous No. 16473133

>>16473127
>How many people about were/are clamoring for this

If only you knew how bad things really are. Rural america is getting RAPED by a variety of cocksucking monopolies with garbage products. Most of them, unfortunately, are kind of retarded and have to be led by the nose since the television doesn't tell them that starlink exists.

Anonymous No. 16473134

>>16473126
It hasn't disappeared. That's the maximum amount that can be spent under the program the amount that has been allocated to it. And there is some oversight from gao.

https://www.internetforall.gov/program/broadband-equity-access-and-deployment-bead-program
>Final Proposals are due no later than 365 days after the approval of the complete Initial Proposal. Once an Eligible Entity’s Final Proposal is approved by NTIA, the Eligible Entity will receive BEAD Program funds to begin funding BEAD projects.

Are there reasons to get mad at the program? Yes. But you're getting riled up about something you made up in your heads.

Anonymous No. 16473135

>>16473134
OK captain big brain. Want to tell us how much has been spent so far to connect zero (0) people then?

Anonymous No. 16473136

>>16473129
Yes it's not that all the money got eaten by the system necessarily but it IS taking like five damn years to roll out anything at all by current estimates.

Anonymous No. 16473138

>>16473129
What was it spent on? Why was any of it spent on anything other than purchasing from an existing service provider what was claimed to be sought with the money

Anonymous No. 16473139

>>16473135
I don't care enough to try to dig that up. You can wait for the inspector general report.
https://www.oig.doc.gov/wp-content/OIGPublications/Audit-of-NTIAs-Allocation-of-BEAD-Funds-Announcement.pdf

Anonymous No. 16473140

>>16473129
YOU'RE

FIRED

Anonymous No. 16473143

>>16473134
"56
Participating States and Territories

$46b+
Awarded to Date

270+
Internet for All Awardees"

Anonymous No. 16473145

>>16473139
So the government project in charge of spending 45 thousand million taxpayer dollars doesn't even have something as simple as a counter for how much money has been spent and the people have to wait for some other government beauracrats to tell us what has been done? Lol. Goodbye.

Anonymous No. 16473149

>>16473129
>It's a glacial government program

Not any more, time to find real jobs!

Anonymous No. 16473150

>>16473134
"Award Synopsis
To date, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has allocated more than $42.45 billion across 56 states and territories as part of the Broadband Equity Access and Deployment Program."

Is there any info results on progress? Out of the total number of people this program was made for, what percentage of them now have their needs met?

Anonymous No. 16473151

>>16473138
>Why was any of it spent on anything other than purchasing from an existing service provider what was claimed to be sought with the money
Unless of course state by state top secret operation programs. But the public doesn't look at any tax and spenditure records, well case in point, until right now. So there's no need to even make a fake paper trail

Anonymous No. 16473154

We'll see how insane the final program is if it doesn't get axed. If the local government gets ownership of the fiber it can easily be cheaper and better than the usual monopolist broadband providers.
I'm sure Musk would love for Starlink to get included since that locks people into buying from him.
Whether the feds should subsidizing rural broadband in the first place is another matter.

Anonymous No. 16473155

>>16473150
Ah geez dude you really expect us to release that kind of information to the public on a regular basis?.... Fucken slave driver man...

Anonymous No. 16473157

>>16473154
>government owned
nonsense

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Anonymous No. 16473159

>>16472869
Black Arrow was cheap, died because of lack of funds not too too much like SLS

Anonymous No. 16473160

>>16473154
>. If the local government gets ownership of the fiber it can easily be cheaper and better than the usual monopolist broadband providers.
How does that usually work, county to county had their own power grids and stuff. And different, sometimes more and less, public private companies instal and own fiber optic cables? I'm unfamiliar with how starlink works, does it need fiber optic hook up to power lines

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Anonymous No. 16473162

>>16472872
>Remember how "Biden will go after SpaceX/Meme" was considered schizopost? But was the actual truth all along?
we can retire this gif now

Anonymous No. 16473164

>>16472891
Shelby retired and Huntsville, even with Redstone, has been more civilian than military. Colorado become solidified as the center for military aerospace while the civilian side of things becomes even more diffuse.

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Anonymous No. 16473166

We're never getting the full family now ;_;

Anonymous No. 16473168

>>16473166
I forget, can LLL get off the pad? I don't remember how close the margins were.

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Anonymous No. 16473170

The only thing with all this stuff, I'm trying to picture how the media will phrase it
>world's richest guy, who now runs a new government department, cancels the moon rocket and gives more contracts to his own company's space rocket

Anonymous No. 16473174

>>16473170
>Saves america $50 billion dollar by cancelling garbage rocket
>Provides America with a rocket that is 100X cheaper and brings people to Mars/Moon
>At the same time
Make it so!

Anonymous No. 16473177

>>16473170
>cancels the moon rocket and gives more contracts to his own company's space rocket
Because his moon rocket does x y z better for a b c cheaper, maybe

Anonymous No. 16473179

>>16473170
"Evil rich man undermines and defunds government programs"

Anonymous No. 16473182

>>16473166
>SSSL
>SL
>LSSS
What the fuck were they thinking? These rockets all look inbred

Anonymous No. 16473183

>>16473129
its ineffective whether the money has been earmarked or actually spent

Anonymous No. 16473185

>>16473134
GAO keeps writing reports about how shit SLS is all the time, nothing has happened
GAO is almost pointless (I guess they might have brought some of this attention but idk, SLS being a waste of money is clear with or without GAO)

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Anonymous No. 16473186

>>16473170
already calling it corruption with respect to other Musk companies, no doubt the argument will be used for everythign

https://electrek.co/2024/11/12/call-it-like-it-is-tslas-rise-is-not-due-to-performance-but-hope-for-corruption/

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Anonymous No. 16473187

>>16473182
shut up bitch, we're in mourning

Anonymous No. 16473188

>>16473187
why would you mourn this piece of shit? lmao

Anonymous No. 16473191

>>16473186
Its just castrated editor in chief pushing anti-Tesla posts. He's a canadian leftist who cut ties with Tesla/Musk once Musk stopped playing around with covid.

Anonymous No. 16473192

>>16473101
Based.

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Anonymous No. 16473194

>>16473191
isn't that Fred Lambert? but yeah everyone at Electrek have had EDS for a while

Anonymous No. 16473198

Still a bit early to tell how dense the cloud cover will be.

>Mostly cloudy skies early, will become partly cloudy later in the day
> 24% precipitation

Anonymous No. 16473200

>>16473194
Anyone covering Tesla should be. He hasn't sold anyone tickets to Mars on schedules that keep slipping. But he has sold cars on the promise that they are "full self driving capable" and that it's coming soon.

Anonymous No. 16473202

>>16473200
Million people are already driving FSD. Its like claiming no one is using Starlink when they're everywhere.

Anonymous No. 16473203

>>16473202
The difference between what was promised and what was delivered is like the difference between suborbital and orbital. Sure it does part of what it was supposed to.
We'll have to wait until they release AFSD actually full self driving in a decade.

Anonymous No. 16473205

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91RgO2N2rfI
soon

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Anonymous No. 16473208

> “I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. ' And God granted it”

Anonymous No. 16473209

>>16473203
FSD is already here. Its a self driving car. You are just refusing to accept that people are buying, using, by the mass. Next you'll say Falcon 9 doesn't exist because it fails every now and then.

Anonymous No. 16473211

>>16473209
Now this is pure gaslighting and cope of the highest degree.
Have fun with your Cybertruck.

Anonymous No. 16473213

>>16473205
More useless, expensive, and overdue than SLS. Something only Eurofags could achieve

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Anonymous No. 16473214

>>16473193
Don't be rude to SLS-chan! She is trying her best! Not her fault that NASA is infested by the incompetent and the corrupt...

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Anonymous No. 16473215

>>16473211
Cybertruck is based

Anonymous No. 16473216

>>16473214
I can't believe she's fucking dead

Anonymous No. 16473217

>>16473209
and Starship landed on Mars 4 years ago

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Anonymous No. 16473219

>>16473216
I'm glad
SHE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BORN!

Anonymous No. 16473221

>>16473209
It's not there and probably won't be there before 2030

Anonymous No. 16473223

>>16473209
Cars cant drive themselves

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Anonymous No. 16473224

>>16473215
There are several in my town. Looks like they're all driven by soccer moms, which would be really funny if that became the main consumer for them.
>>16473209
Meh. The driving assist technology in Tesla products certainly use that name and if you let them self define the term, sure, it's "Full Self Driving" but the average person hears that and thinks something they could turn on and take a nap on their way to their destination.
>>16473186
Short sellers are going to keep bankrupting themselves with their fantasies.

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Anonymous No. 16473226

Best of both worlds

Anonymous No. 16473227

>>16473224
>they could turn on and take a nap
Fake definition. The same argument I've heard about autopilot name. About everyone will think one way. All nonsense. The million+ people using it certainly knows what the capabilities are and what the limitations are. The car wont go 10 seconds without it forcing you to takeover by beeping at you if you take your eyes off.
So the nonsense about "average person" thinking that is just another way of laundering credibility from people that have never used it. It just reminds me of the "experts say", "anonymous sources say", "nytimes says" "other guy says". No ownership of statement = no credibility. No actual experience = no credibility.

Anonymous No. 16473228

>>16473226
This is actually inadvertantly a good visual of how much reuse cuts into your margins, even with the hydrolox handicap

Anonymous No. 16473229

>>16472857
>Department of Government Efficiency
You fucking irl shitposter, Elon. lol

Anonymous No. 16473230

>>16472996
Spending 4 full years making things efficient is not very efficient, anon.

Anonymous No. 16473233

>>16473127
There's a reason NASA and other government institutions stream in 720p still and that's so that Elmer Dinkle in Bumfuck, Nowhere can watch it on his "internet connection".

Anonymous No. 16473235

>>16472857
you can't improve the efficiency of governments. they are inefficient by design. All Elon will do there is pave the way for SpaceX.

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Anonymous No. 16473236

>>16472857

Anonymous No. 16473237

>>16472861
I expect Boeing to quickly catch up to Airbus now.

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Anonymous No. 16473238

>>16472924
>he doesn't use an ad blocker

Anonymous No. 16473240

>>16473235
All organizations can be turned efficient with the right leadership and execution. Tesla/SpaceX was founded as such by Musk. Twitter, he bought, was extremely inefficient and he cut that beurocratic fat by 90% and made the site better/faster/efficient.

Anonymous No. 16473249

>>16473237
787 production will now hit 1 frame per week by the end of 2025

Anonymous No. 16473254

>>16472760
Holy fuck I can't wait to see spaceguy5's meltdown when this gets announced.

Anonymous No. 16473256

>>16473254
He's the mod of sls board on reddit and he deleted the thread about SLS possibly being canned

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Anonymous No. 16473260

>>16473254
>>16473256
They will all come to kneel

Anonymous No. 16473264

>>16473200
it is coming soon

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Anonymous No. 16473267

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856637946129998153

its all coming together and you still doubt Musk

Anonymous No. 16473270

>>16473267
Its why Boring Company is part SpaceX owned.

Anonymous No. 16473271

>>16473256
Oh man an entire board full of redditors seething about SLS cancelation? I can't wait.

Anonymous No. 16473272

>>16473123
F9 internal is like $15mil

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Anonymous No. 16473273

>>16473237
Decades of damage takes a lot of time to recover from and Boeing might not have enough runway for that. Though there's no way to know the probability of it happening, I'm seeing lots of rumors about Boeing being broken up with the aircraft portion being purchased by GE. Not sure if anyone would want the Space division whole but maybe some of the IP and physical assets would be valuable.

Anonymous No. 16473274

>>16473154
>If the government gets ownership it can easily be cheaper and better
Euro hours are something else lmao

Anonymous No. 16473275

>>16473273
aerospace grade mouse

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Anonymous No. 16473280

>not the 'Great Elon Musk' edition
Wasted stage.

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Anonymous No. 16473281

>>16473267
>tunnels
e-elon... no...

Anonymous No. 16473286

>>16473273
>GE
>purchasing anything

Anonymous No. 16473288

>>16473267
He's so autistic and I love it

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Anonymous No. 16473290

>>16473267
It's all falling into place

Anonymous No. 16473294

>>16473290
Fucking Moon Bunny possession.

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Anonymous No. 16473296

What does this mean for Dragonfly? That's all I care about from NASA these days.

Anonymous No. 16473297

>>16472841
>I think SLS will get the axe.
The administration is going to look hard for spending to cut. How could anyone justify keeping SLS in that environment? And of course, the guy in charge of making the cuts is none other than Elon.

I can't wait to see the SLS brony become homeless.

Anonymous No. 16473298

>>16472865
Do Orion next!

Anonymous No. 16473299

>>16473286
They spun off pretty much everything that wasn't aerospace related. Now that they're purely an aerospace company, it would make sense for them to jump on a one time opportunity to get significant aerospace assets at a depressed price.
>The division operated under the name of General Electric Aircraft Engines (GEAE) until September 2005, and as GE Aviation until July 2022. In July 2022, GE Aviation changed its name to GE Aerospace in a move executives say reflects the engine maker's intention to broaden its focus beyond aircraft engines. In April 2024, GE Aerospace became the only business line of the former General Electric conglomerate, after it had completed the divestiture of GE HealthCare and GE Vernova (its energy businesses division).

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Anonymous No. 16473301

>>16473296
If SLS and MSR get the axe and NASA can focus on payloads (notably heavy payloads that can be built quicker and easier) then we're sending 20 dragonflies at once to map a significant portion of the surface (none will visit the lakes)

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Anonymous No. 16473303

>>16473297
I suspect that the reason for bringing in Vivek Ramaswamy is so he can be the face of anything dealing with parts of the government in areas that Musk's companies are involved. This would be to reduce to appearance of a conflict of interest, even if we all know Musk is influencing the decisions.

Anonymous No. 16473304

>>16473303
Yeah, I was wondering about that possibility, too.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16473307

>>16473303
My personal theory in my head is that Trump is as annoyed with this guy as I am so he set him up to be the fall guy for his new best friend

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Anonymous No. 16473308

>>16473296
Wow, can't wait to colonize that cryogenic shit colored landscape!

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16473309

>>16473307
why would he be annoyed with vivek?
if anything he would be annoyed with musk. Vivek just kisses Trumps ass but Musk expects stuff.

Anonymous No. 16473315

>>16473309
There's no shortage of brown nosers in the world but an extreme shortage of those who have a rocket company that can bring glory to the country, and by extension, its leader.

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Anonymous No. 16473317

>>16473294
fucking moon bunnies? count me in!

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16473322

>>16473315
Pence was running space policy in the first Trump term. Trump cares so little about space that if he develops any reason to dislike Musk he will quickly forget that particular advantage.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16473327

>>16473322
The only reason why Pence had anything to do with space is due to Trump bringing back the Space Council. Then there's the Space Force, the only new branch of the military since the 1940s.

Anonymous No. 16473336

>>16472931
Didn't meet the design criteria (waste tax money in Alabama)

Anonymous No. 16473337

>>16473117
I'm a retard without a fucking clue but isn't vulcan a new rocket? Is it human rated?

Anonymous No. 16473338

>>16472982
Satan needs a little more time to get his best torturers ready.

Anonymous No. 16473340

>>16473337
All of the existing and the recent onset EDS sufferers in the replies scrambing to justify anything but SpaceX warm my cold heart.
>no vulcan isn't man rated
>no new glenn isn't man rated either
>the abominable chud will have to do that too, oh the humanity

Anonymous No. 16473345

>>16472996
>>16472997
If they planned to take 4 years there's the real possibility of the whole thing being scrapped before it's started. If they finished in less than two years, would still have veto power for two more years to prevent changes from being rolled back, even in an absolute worst case scenario. Plus it gives time for the policies to bear fruit before the next presidential election.

It will be interesting to see how much time Elon spends on this. He's already shown himself capable of doing more than any ten men, though, so it will probably be fine.

Anonymous No. 16473349

>>16472996
Maybe they're planning to speed it up while the Republicans are still in the majority. With the mid-term, there's a possibility that they would miss the chance with the Dems gunning for the seats.

Anonymous No. 16473351

>>16473062
False

Anonymous No. 16473354

>>16473340
>>16473337
Vulcan actually does make sense (if it can lost something as heavy as orion, idk).
Vulcan has high c3 and is made for that sort of thing. It would be a nice welfare handout to prevent total SpaceX monopoly. That's a good thing because it means oldspace has a vested interest in not getting Artemis cancelled in the next administration.

Obviously falcon heavy could also probably do it, but it would require a lot of work. They would need to launch with only the side boosters then air light the center core which would take development effort. Vulcan can just fly as is.

Anonymous No. 16473358

>>16473101
You can just tweet Elon something you hate about the federal government and if you get his attention he'll consider removing it. This is the best timeline.

Anonymous No. 16473360

>>16473345
The dude probably already had the plans in mind years ago when the Biden administration fuck with him couple years back.

Anonymous No. 16473362

>>16473123
Is this AI? If the cost of 1 satellite is $5 million including launch costs (it isn't) it would cost $5 billion to launch 1000 every year. Why do they need to be replaced every year?

Anonymous No. 16473364

>>16473354
random question, are you or have you ever been Tory Bruno?

Anonymous No. 16473366

>>16473267
all according to keikaku

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Anonymous No. 16473367

>>16473358
magatards actually believe this. How long until reality sets in, and nothing changes?

Anonymous No. 16473369

>>16473367
Read more carefully. Elon considering removing something doesn't mean it will actually be removed.

Not only are you a huge faggot, but your whole post is retarded. That is not a coincidence.

Anonymous No. 16473375

>>16473340
human rating isn't that hard when you're putting an existing proven capsule and LES on top. An Artemis program launched by a combination of:
>FH
>Vulcan
>NG
>eventually starship
would be extremely based

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Anonymous No. 16473377

>>16473375
>proven capsule

Anonymous No. 16473380

>>16473377
literally no problems. why do you ywan atstarshiplosing 20% of its tiles yet scream at some abrasion on the orion shield well within safety margin?

Anonymous No. 16473381

https://spacenews.com/nasa-faces-disruptive-presidential-transition/
new fovst article up.

Anonymous No. 16473384

>>16473381
>Panelists, though, expect Musk to play a role, directly or otherwise, in reshaping NASA in the next administration. “We’ll have a discussion with Elon. He’s earned a seat at the table,” said Scott Pace, director of George Washington University’s Space Policy Institute who served on the NASA transition for the incoming George W. Bush administration.
these fucking gay niggers think he didnt deserve a spot at the table when he heads fucking spacex.

Anonymous No. 16473386

>>16473384
>At one point in the discussion, she asked the panel if they thought the Space Launch System and Orion programs would continue in the next administration. None of the panelists raised their hands. “Not as they are,” Pace said.
well berger was right on the money.

Anonymous No. 16473387

>>16473375
human rating is not even a thing
billion dollar sat's are way more delicate and expensive than humans

Anonymous No. 16473391

>>16473380
>the main support beam of the bridge cracked a 3rd of the way through when a car crossed it, that means we have a 3X safety factor!
>why don't you wanna send a bus full of people across?

Anonymous No. 16473392

>>16473391
take this same approach with shartship and it will literally never be safe enough to fly people.

Anonymous No. 16473394

>>16473392
The difference is starship changed the heat shield whereas nasa has been procrastinating on orions heat shield since they discovered the problem.

Anonymous No. 16473395

>>16473394
NASA already knows what caused the problem. Theyve fixed it.

Anonymous No. 16473398

>>16473380
starship and orion have vastly different development methods

Anonymous No. 16473399

>>16473395
They would have put an article out if they did

Anonymous No. 16473401

>>16473395
>source, my ass

Anonymous No. 16473402

Elon couldn't fix twitter, why does anyone think he will somehow succeed with government.

Anonymous No. 16473403

>>16473399
They learnt their lesson about talking to the press. if they said the cause then it would create another wave of sensational articles. Trust NASA.

Anonymous No. 16473404

>>16473395
how did they fix it?

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Anonymous No. 16473406

FIVE DAYS UNTIL STARSHIP FLIES AGAIN

Anonymous No. 16473408

>>16473097
yeah that part didn't make much sense to me either

Anonymous No. 16473409

>just keep massive boondoggle programs around because "they are useful"

capsules are fucking trivial, Orion should be cancelled, everyone involved fired, and all hardware destroyed

Anonymous No. 16473410

>>16473123
doesn't seem factual

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Anonymous No. 16473412

New pics of Stoke's FFSC engine

Anonymous No. 16473414

>>16473404
>>16473398
Trust NASA. Patriots are in control.

Anonymous No. 16473416

So if Starship is flying less than a week from now, it begs the question, what would be happening if Kamala won?

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Anonymous No. 16473417

>>16473406

Anonymous No. 16473418

>>16473412
What a rats nest

Anonymous No. 16473420

>>16473416
Nothing? Apart from Elon having meltdown, they already had a license. The question is how long they will wait for orbital launch license

Anonymous No. 16473422

I'm really fucking worried and I want Elon to win so bad.
I don't even live in the US.
Fate of western (possibly global) civilization is at stake and I can feel it in the air.

Anonymous No. 16473423

>>16473418
A bunch of sensors I reckon. Won't be on the final product.

Anonymous No. 16473424

>>16473409
Put it into a newly created Museum of Government Waste and put all the most embarrassing shit that gets cut with DOGE in there as a reminder
Orion and SLS alongside transgender rat HIV studies

Anonymous No. 16473425

>>16473422
He already won.

Anonymous No. 16473428

>>16473425
You think they'll just give up now?
His life is at risk.

Anonymous No. 16473429

>>16473416
increasing concern for the water quality at boca chica, and a new report surfaces proving that some dolphins get sad when rockets land on drone platforms.

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Anonymous No. 16473430

>>16473111
"Great! All this money we saved can go strait to ISRAEL!"

Anonymous No. 16473432

>>16473416
Elon would be in jail.

Anonymous No. 16473434

>>16473430
Go back to >>>/pol/

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Anonymous No. 16473435

SLS bros...

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Anonymous No. 16473436

>>16473435

Anonymous No. 16473441

>>16473435
Seeing the seethe from spaceguy5 alone would make this worth it

Anonymous No. 16473442

all because they are too scared to just assemble a spaceship in LEO

Can't grift enough I guess if it isn't redesigning a new vehicle from scratch and planning 2 decades to do it

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Anonymous No. 16473443

https://x.com/spaceguy5/status/1856591492157956413
Ummm bros whats happening here

Anonymous No. 16473444

>>16473428
The ULA snipers have been dealt with, they won't be a problem any longer.

Anonymous No. 16473445

>>16473435
i want to see it happen

Anonymous No. 16473449

>>16473443
Based????

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Anonymous No. 16473451

>>16473443
>still mindbroken by berger

Anonymous No. 16473452

why is the nose of starship so pointy hen it presents obvious disadvantages?

Anonymous No. 16473453

>>16473451
>richest man in the world needs to fundraise and campaign for a candidate

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Anonymous No. 16473454

>>16473435
The Bridenstack WILL BE REAL

Anonymous No. 16473455

>>16473451
>experts
lol

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Anonymous No. 16473456

>>16473443
Just arguing for more funding for block 1b

Anonymous No. 16473458

I'm gonna coom when SLS gets axed finally

Anonymous No. 16473459

>>16473406
We are in a world where this isn't even the biggest spaceflight happening of the week

Anonymous No. 16473460

>>16473428
It will be fine. He's going to cut funding for the CIA's domestic assassination division.

Anonymous No. 16473462

>>16473456
>NASA will dictate policy to the president
I think there might have been some fentanyl in his copium. Normally it's not this powerful.

Anonymous No. 16473464

>>16473451
Elon gets all the contracts anyway lol

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Anonymous No. 16473468

This guy is too easy lol

Anonymous No. 16473469

>>16473456
this guy needs to brush up his CV, maybe get a janitor job at McDonalds instead of NASA

Anonymous No. 16473472

Seeing a lot of comments saying nothing is going to happen with DOGE
I think the first layoffs need to hit before it really starts to sink in for most people

Anonymous No. 16473473

>>16473117
>>16473354
I don’t think Vulcan can even get Orion to LEO without all 6 strap ons. Given that they have a demonstrated 25% failure rate I don’t think that would be a good idea.

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Anonymous No. 16473475

>>16473101
>Elon musk going through the government employe roster

Anonymous No. 16473478

>>16473472
Let them talk.

Anonymous No. 16473482

>>16473473
Assuming the probability of failure for each booster is independent they'd have almost a 20% percent chance of success. Were there to be astronauts on board?

Anonymous No. 16473483

>>16473118
>>16473101
The reason it hasn't achieved much is because almost none of that $42B has been deployed yet. The program has so far mostly been stuck in bureaucracy and approvals processes

Anonymous No. 16473486

>>16473183
There's a major difference between a $42B expenditure being approved by a congressional spending bill, and $42B actually being spent. In the former case, the government still has the money available, and in the latter case, it does not.

Anonymous No. 16473491

>wake up
>spaceguy5 seething

ah, it is a good day today

Anonymous No. 16473494

>>16473462
The budgetary allocation is made by the relevant congressional committees

Anonymous No. 16473495

>>16473482
When you phrase it that way, it’s better than SLS so I guess they might as well do it.

Anonymous No. 16473496

>>16473456
SG5 will still be insisting nothing but SLS can send people to the Moon after SLS is canceled and we are on our 10th commercial landing.

Anonymous No. 16473498

>>16473454
It would take longer to get the ICPS from ULA than it would be to make an entirely Starship based architecture

Anonymous No. 16473499

dont spend so much time thinking about silly twitter people frens. it doesnt lead to anything

Anonymous No. 16473501

>>16473499
I don't even have a twatter, I only see those posts here. I wish I never saw them at all.

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Anonymous No. 16473505

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1856734807927247251

its happening

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Anonymous No. 16473507

>>16473505
https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1856732026508107871

Anonymous No. 16473509

>>16473507
>>16473505
Ermmmmm bros are you tired of winning yet

Anonymous No. 16473513

>>16473505
>>16473507
Damn, he's being given the red-carpet treatment from Trump's circle, remains to be seen if this jovial atmosphere will last let alone yield positive results. After all, Trump had abysmal records of having people in his administration staying loyal to him and vice versa.

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Anonymous No. 16473514

If Trump said: "we will go to Mars", then it will happen no matter what.

Anonymous No. 16473516

>>16473514
>"we will go to Mars-" *crowd starts cheering*
>"We will go to Mars and we will STAY on Mars" *crowd goes wild, Elon runs up and starts doing star jumps on the stage*

Anonymous No. 16473524

>>16473516
i have no problem with this

Anonymous No. 16473527

>>16473452
it needs to be pointy. otherwise it wont strike fear in americans enemies.

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Anonymous No. 16473547

https://x.com/NASAArtemis/status/1856727979251957831
>Welcome to the Artemis Accords, Denmark
>Denmark is the 48th nation to commit to the safe and responsible exploration of space that benefits humanity

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Anonymous No. 16473548

>>16473468
SpaceGuy5 gets DoGEed

Anonymous No. 16473551

>>16473547
>denmark
the news yesterday made it sound like it was going to be an important country

Anonymous No. 16473552

>>16473547
>angola
what contributions to spaceflight has this great nation made?

Anonymous No. 16473553

>>16473551
Who's missing and important?

Anonymous No. 16473554

how do you define what counts as a megaconstellation? it has to be more than a few hundred sats right?

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Anonymous No. 16473555

>>16473301
It will take 8-10 years for a Dragonfly eployed at the equator region to reach the north lakes. Why don't they just drop them at the lakes first? Not even a Mars rover can last that long, nevermind an experimental quadcopter a billion kilometers away.

>>16473308
Enjoy dying of cancer in your irradiated, toxic desert.

Anonymous No. 16473556

>>16473547
I want white supremacy all across the galaxy.

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Anonymous No. 16473562

>>16473553
The only real important countries left that Artemis could pick up would be someone like Turkey, Indonesia, or Taiwan. Africa doesn't matter and the rest of central Asia is all close ILRS allies

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Anonymous No. 16473565

Does anyone know good Nazi historical sites in Munich to visit?

Anonymous No. 16473567

>>16473555
>Why don't they just drop them at the lakes first?
They're probably scared of losing it in the drink as it lands. They should drop something into the lake on purpose though, just to see what's down there.

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Anonymous No. 16473570

>>16473562
There's propaganda value in getting a Taiwanese onto the Moon before PRC, but I don't think that is likely.

Anonymous No. 16473571

>>16473570
but that would agitate mainland China

Anonymous No. 16473572

>>16473562
looks like most of the major players are spoken for. the only wildcard is turkey.

Anonymous No. 16473573

>>16473547
We need to prioritize decolonization of antarctica

Anonymous No. 16473574

>>16473516
based

Anonymous No. 16473576

>>16473548
It'll be hilarious when he gets laid off, and then employers never hire him because of his social media meltdowns

Anonymous No. 16473579

>>16473573
I think you mean colonization of antarctica.

Anonymous No. 16473581

>>16473573
We need to prioritize decolonization of earth (from Mars)

Anonymous No. 16473583

>>16473507
Is that his new incubator?

Anonymous No. 16473585

>>16473505
how does an autist such as Musk deal with these situations?

Anonymous No. 16473586

SLS jobs will be lost
space force national guard jobs will be gained

Anonymous No. 16473587

>>16473572
Turkey, Indonesia, Jordan, Vietnam, and the Philippines are the five that are worth keeping an eye on. Turkey and Indonesia are both really good at playing off East vs. West to their benefit and they have long-standing interests in space. Jordan is the last undeclared country in the Middle East that's both rich enough and stable enough to care about space travel, and Vietnam and the Philippines are the biggest economies in S.E. Asia that haven't picked a team yet.

>>16473570
The only chance would be if we stuck a Taiwanese astronaut on Artemis III, but that doesn't mean it's not completely impossible. Kjell Lindgren is Taiwanese-American and flew as the mission commander on Crew-4, but right now he's the Deputy Director of the Flight Operations Directorate so his career's probably moved on from being crew.

Anonymous No. 16473588

>>16473587
my guess is that indonesia will likely go to ILRS, with jordan, vietnam, and philippines going to artemis

Anonymous No. 16473589

>>16473562
Artemis seems to have more useful members. USA is obviously doing the heavy lifting, but after them there is France, Germany, Canada, Australia, India and Italy. Most of these can actually contribute something. Meanwhile, ILRS has pretty much only Russia and China, and Kazakhstan, which serves as a launch site.

Anonymous No. 16473590

>>16473587
If Yugoslavia was still a country, would it be interested in space travel?

Anonymous No. 16473593

>>16473590
serbia signed up for ILRS

Anonymous No. 16473594

>>16473589
the artemis accords aren't really about collaboration. It's just a non-binding space law agreement as a pretense for picking sides in the new space race.

Anonymous No. 16473595

>>16473579
This, warm the planet up so we can finally utilize the frozen continent. Just think of all the archeology that lies underneath the ice.

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Anonymous No. 16473596

>>16473576

Anonymous No. 16473598

>can't even colonize Detroit
>but they want to colonize mars

Anonymous No. 16473600

Is anyone watching this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFgXUXeGh6g
U.S. House Oversight Committee holds a hearing on reports of “unidentified anomalous phenomena” (UFOs), with testimonies expected from former Department of Defense and NASA members.

Anonymous No. 16473602

my pp hard

Anonymous No. 16473603

>>16473600
Fuck off >>>/x/

Anonymous No. 16473604

>>16473595
>all the archeology
you mean palaeontology, archaeology is only human remains. there are probably some cool dinosaurs and marsupial fossils down under though.

Anonymous No. 16473605

>>16473567
Not in the lakes, retard, near them. So we can actually get photographs of them before the thing shits itself randomly and we don't get any Titan pictures for another 3 decades.

Anonymous No. 16473606

>>16473600
inb4 its not aliens

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Anonymous No. 16473611

>>16473600
zamn

Anonymous No. 16473614

>>16473603
>>16473606
The government has been hiding something about UFOs and a majority of congress is actually pissed about that. Because, this UFO secret involves a HUGE chunk of black spending, and they have budget control.
Its spaceflight, and also now. Its live.

Anonymous No. 16473615

>>16473614
nothing ever happens. Next you'll tell me the sun will send us all into the stoneage because of long wires.

Anonymous No. 16473619

>>16473615
Its about revealing government corruption. Where is all the UFO hush money going?

Anonymous No. 16473620

>>16473600
everyone who believes this shit is a schizo

Anonymous No. 16473621

>>16473619
there isnt any to begin with.

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Anonymous No. 16473622

>>16473555
>Saturn being that size in Titans sky
>Saturn being visible at all
horrible dishonesty for the meme-est of moons

Anonymous No. 16473623

>>16473621
>no government corruption
Are you kidding me?

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Anonymous No. 16473624

>>16473604
>you mean palaeontology
No, no I do not anon.

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Anonymous No. 16473625

>>16473611
Luna!

Anonymous No. 16473628

>>16473623
no hush money I was talking about idiot. Simply because people could just leak it online anonymously. theres no way you could keep a secret this big and "hush money" is not the answer.

Anonymous No. 16473630

>>16473588
Indonesia is impossible to get a read on. They've got strong economic and diplomatic ties to China, but they've successfully rejected any agreements that would make them a Chinese vassal state. Most of their satellite fleet was built in the west and launched by European or American rockets, but they have contracted some payloads and launches from China. They tried to get SpaceX interested in building a Falcon 9 launch site in their country, and while that didn't go anywhere the offer is still open and might be revisited when SpaceX starts proliferating Starship launch complexes. Indonesia signed a 2019 agreement with China on cooperating and the peaceful use of space, but they've also doing a few collaborative projects with the ESA. Honestly, if anyone were going to find a way to join both Artemis and ILRS it'd be these guys.

>>16473589
Egypt-South Africa and Venezuela-Nicaragua are geographically essential if you want to build up a real deep space network.

Anonymous No. 16473635

>>16473630
>They tried to get SpaceX interested in building a Falcon 9 launch site in their country
prime space launch location

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Anonymous No. 16473637

Blue Origin guy got murdered by his nutty dyke daughter
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14073763/corey-burke-jeff-bezos-murders-father-timothy-election-night-meltdown.html

Anonymous No. 16473638

>>16473637
looks like a job opened up for a soon-to-be jobless sls employee

Anonymous No. 16473640

>>16473637
Jesus Christ...

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Anonymous No. 16473641

>>16473628
Have you seen the military budget?
https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fy24_ndaa_conference_executive_summary1.pdf
A lot of money is black projects, and UFOs is a large one.

Anonymous No. 16473642

>>16473637
Actually the employee was the one who did the killing

Anonymous No. 16473643

>>16473625
i would send my probe down to the luna surface if you know what i mean...maybe conduct some core sample drilling.

Anonymous No. 16473645

>>16473637
yeah but he probably said it in a really rude way

Anonymous No. 16473646

>>16473637
Why is 800 thousand highlighted? That’s not that much in Seattle.

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Anonymous No. 16473648

>>16473637
You can't make this shit up

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Anonymous No. 16473649

>>16473637
Nah, the daughter is the one that works at Blue Origin. Seems that the election threw her in some sort of excited delirium state
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14073763/corey-burke-jeff-bezos-murders-father-timothy-election-night-meltdown.html

Also killed him with an ice axe. Same as that guy Trotsky lol. Can't make this shit up

Anonymous No. 16473651

>>16473611
>>16473625
loona posting has escaped /trash/
the west has fallen

Anonymous No. 16473652

>>16473649
literal nutjob trannies running recruitment/training over at BO and people wonder why its a s hit show

Anonymous No. 16473653

>>16473649
what the fuck is wrong with people

Anonymous No. 16473654

>>16473649
>>16473648
kinda cute!

Anonymous No. 16473655

>>16473649
oh this was election night LOL
Typical TDS

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Anonymous No. 16473656

>>16473643
please elaborate. In extreme detail.

Anonymous No. 16473657

>>16473656
I hate you niggers so much

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Anonymous No. 16473659

>>16473651
As soon as she's involved with anything spaceflight related I'm going to start spamming

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Anonymous No. 16473661

>>16473657
you have to go back newfag

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Anonymous No. 16473662

>>16473655
Fact check! Due to a relative infrequency of patricide among the patriotically challenged, this does not represent a case of "Typical TDS"

Anonymous No. 16473669

>>16473649
What even is a 'power lesbian'?

Anonymous No. 16473673

>>16473648
Repulsive people.
>>16473653
I blame the hyperbolic legacy press. Also the dyke, but MSM had blood on their hands too.

Anonymous No. 16473674

Is this anime space girls general or what?

Anonymous No. 16473675

>>16473669
a parasite. That's all most people need to know

Anonymous No. 16473676

will vulcan save ula or what

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Anonymous No. 16473678

>>16473657
Don't fight the urges

Anonymous No. 16473679

>>16473674
Yea

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Anonymous No. 16473681

>>16473676
results over rhetoric

Anonymous No. 16473682

>>16473681
>loses part of its engine
>doesnt give a shit
>finishes mission anyway
what a stud

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Anonymous No. 16473683

>>16473674
As long as its topical

Anonymous No. 16473684

>>16473681
spacex snipers did this

Anonymous No. 16473685

>>16473681
what exploded

Anonymous No. 16473687

>>16473682
It lost 30% of it's total performance, only hit its target orbit because it wasn't carrying a real payload, and didn't have any reserve left to perform the deep space maneuvers it was planning to

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Anonymous No. 16473697

>>16473683
Poor thing

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Anonymous No. 16473698

>>16473678
holy shit that's so cute
I love rocket yuri
Can't wait for the docking and fuel transfer mission!

Anonymous No. 16473699

>>16473698
>Rocket yuri
This is an actual genre now? Is there any limit for degenerates in this world

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Anonymous No. 16473702

/sfg/ - Space Female General

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>>16473702

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>>16473699
no and no
I wish there was more though

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>>16473699
No

Anonymous No. 16473712

>>16473707
Hideous

Anonymous No. 16473719

nsf may as well as become a daily live show at this point

Anonymous No. 16473727

>>16473719
>using nsf for anything other than starbase live
>ever taking a nsf video off mute
ISHYGDDT

Anonymous No. 16473733

>>16473682
A reminder that Cert-2 would have failed if an actual payload, like the Dreamchaser that was originally supposed to have flown, had been on board instead of a small dummy payload.

The lost nozzle cost the SRB ~1/4 its total impulse.

Anonymous No. 16473737

>>16473637
no wonder BO gets nothing done if they employe insane DEI retards like this
this can't have been a hire based on merit?

Anonymous No. 16473738

how tanker looks like

Anonymous No. 16473743

>>16473738
im more curious about how depot look like

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Anonymous No. 16473745

>>16473654
lol are you fucking serious

Anonymous No. 16473747

>>16473226
i like it a lot

Anonymous No. 16473751

Do ablative heat shields work in ovens or just in situations like reentry where the airstream strips them away?
Thinking about wrapping a venus lander in a fat shell of ablative to hopefully buy a few hours.

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Anonymous No. 16473755

Inshallah the execution of SLS will be broadcasted live on the internet's public square!

Anonymous No. 16473760

>>16473755
this can't be real. There's no way this will actually happen, right? I'm just huffing to much hopium, aren't I? Please, someone clear-minded tell me I'm a retard for believing this.

Anonymous No. 16473762

>>16473755
name one government spending that's not space related that Elon will slash funding for: (protip: you can't)

Anonymous No. 16473763

how depot looks like?

Anonymous No. 16473765

>>16473224
>>16473215
Cybertruck looks less imposing or out of place than I thought it would.
Maybe it's all the other fatass pickups you have in US.
It's kind of funny how the Model S looks completely bland and normal in EU, but kind of out od place on the road in US because it's a small sedan, but Cybertruck kind of doesn't stick out (as far as proportions go, the shape is still odd).
I wish I had a chance to get a close look at one. Maybe next time. Here in the communist block they are still quasi-illegal and cost 10x.

Anonymous No. 16473766

>>16473762
Is rural internet space related?

Anonymous No. 16473767

>>16473755

> All Old Space employees dragged out of their cubicles and beheaded in the town square.

Oh, this could get interesting.

So, SLS dead. MSR dead. Anything else at the top of the list?

Anonymous No. 16473769

>>16473682
>Launch 1 - shake the payload apart
>Launch 2 - use some minimal payload simulation that in no way, shape or form replaces an actual payload, lose shitloads of delta v, only be able to insert in orbit due to how small the payload was
Vulcan has launched twice now, both actual failures. Vulcan is a flop.

Anonymous No. 16473770

https://x.com/DOGE/status/1856783252071354727

It's official gov account now.

Anonymous No. 16473773

>>16473770
Shitposter in Chief.

Anonymous No. 16473775

>>16473755
imagine the seethe when JPL gets gutted

Anonymous No. 16473776

>>16473755
>leaderboard for most insanely dumb spending of tax dollars

Your thoughts on what will be topping this list?

Anonymous No. 16473778

>>16473770
imagine the lawsuits after it's revealed that Elon holds millions in dogecoin

Anonymous No. 16473779

>>16473775
Do they even do anything that we need anymore? Rocket Lab came in recently and copied their entire MSR architecture for a fraction the price

Anonymous No. 16473780

>>16473776
Israel

Anonymous No. 16473781

>>16473779
>Rocket Lab came in recently and copied their entire MSR architecture for a fraction the price
tl;dr me on this, is this about sending up an electron on a starship?

Anonymous No. 16473782

>>16473778
So the entire market cap of that shitcoin?

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Anonymous No. 16473784

>>16473780
no not like this!

Anonymous No. 16473785

>>16473781
No. NASA put out a request for alternate MRS proposals and Rocket Lab's a copy of JPL's original design, mars lander, ascent vehicle, earth-return orbiter, just for a fraction of the billions JPL was asking for and with a much better timeline.

Anonymous No. 16473786

>>16473785
that's fucking hilarious, is there a PDF?

Anonymous No. 16473790

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfo4k5lmBQw
>Major OLM Progress! Starbase Flyover Update 65

Anonymous No. 16473791

>>16473784
Not even Elon can afford to piss off the banking clan. Remember the last time they thought he went off the plantation and the humiliation tour he was forced through?

Anonymous No. 16473792

>>16473760
If you read between the lines, DOGE is a toothless advisory board that can only make "suggestions. It's the political equivalent of giving your little brother an unplugged controller so he thinks he's on the team.

Anonymous No. 16473793

>>16473745
the brunette has sex appeal yeah

Anonymous No. 16473797

>>16473790
>ALL THESE FUCKING ACRONYMS

Anonymous No. 16473799

>>16473792
We'll see. Republicans will be controlling all 3 houses, so they can actually do some slimming down.

Anonymous No. 16473800

>>16473799
I'm sure politicians will be in favour of losing their cushy job

Anonymous No. 16473802

>>16473792
anyone who thinks Musk has been given any sort of legislative or executive power just doesn't know how the government works

Anonymous No. 16473804

>>16473802
No, we know how the government works. We just hate how the government works and are demanding that it work differently, or else

Anonymous No. 16473807

>>16473767
both of those are dead all on their own. dont need Elon's help

Anonymous No. 16473816

>>16473267
About time he said it out loud, all my tunnel snake niggas already knew this

Anonymous No. 16473818

>>16473793
faggot

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Anonymous No. 16473819

So there will be a banana zero g indicator in S31's payload bay.

Anonymous No. 16473820

>>16473819
no space for it

Anonymous No. 16473822

>>16473755
>making the firing of thousands of people and ruining their lives in to a public game show
This sounds like some sort of squid game shit

Anonymous No. 16473825

So what's Flight 7 going to be? Assuming 6 is a complete success

Anonymous No. 16473826

>>16473825
orbital and maybe payload or at least dummy payload

Anonymous No. 16473827

>>16473800
Bureaucrats and politicians aren't the same. The politicians who put the bureaucrats there won't necessarily be pleased to see them gone. The ones who didn't will be happy to.

Anonymous No. 16473828

>>16473825
my guess would be starlink deployment and another expendable starship. Maybe even superheavy reuse.

Anonymous No. 16473829

>>16473819
Starship can't handle the added weight right now

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Anonymous No. 16473830

>>16473791
>Remember the last time they thought he went off the plantation and the humiliation tour he was forced through?
No. Remind me.

Anonymous No. 16473831

>>16473829
It's okay it'll be weightless once it's in space

Anonymous No. 16473833

>>16473820
Kek

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Anonymous No. 16473834

>Decades have passed since a space station primary structure has been manufactured in the United States. Vast is changing that. Our Haven-1 qualification primary structure is in its final stage of welding at our HQ facility. Next, the completed structure will go to our Mojave, CA facility for a critical test to demonstrate its ability to handle the pressure and dynamic loads of launch and operation.

Anonymous No. 16473835

>>16473834
lots of words to say they don't have anything ready

Anonymous No. 16473836

>>16473819
LOL... my phone has a milimeter sized 3 axis accelorometer and yet SpaceX can't inegrate such a simple technology into their rockets... maybe they should hire some Apple engineer for a change.

Anonymous No. 16473837

>>16473834
we will mill orthogrids out of plate aluminum until the sun stops shining on the earth

Anonymous No. 16473840

>>16473836
>t. nasa dei hire

Anonymous No. 16473841

>>16473837
Will this stop with Starship? Especially with a space station that's mostly empty, you could totally just weld up a steel module, right? Assuming it's cheaper than expending a ship to build out

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Anonymous No. 16473843

Tianzhou 8/CZ-7 Y9 has been moved to the launch pad, launch Friday 1536 UTC

Meanwhile, a Taiyuan launch in a bit under 2 hours, could be a CZ-4B/C or a CZ-6A

Anonymous No. 16473844

>>16473841
There's 0 reason to not put everything you want from a space station inside a starship and just use it as is.
>expending
No, just return it whole hog when it's time to go home. Crew, experimental data, dirty socks and everything else.

Anonymous No. 16473845

>>16473830
That picture was during his humiliation tour.

Anonymous No. 16473846

>>16473844
I wonder if they'll do this. Spend 8 months in LEO with no resupply and then come back. Test the Mars trip

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Anonymous No. 16473848

>>16473843

Anonymous No. 16473849

>>16473846
to do so the ship will need to look very different. White HLS isnt a meme, they need thermal blankets like on shuttle. It will look cooler that way so im not opposed to it.

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Anonymous No. 16473850

>>16473830
Urf will pay for this

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Anonymous No. 16473851

>Did some math a while back and dual Falcon Heavies can carry Orion to TLI. No in-space stages or ICPS needed. Expendable FH launches with no payload and leaves a partially fueled upper stage in LEO with a docking adaptor. Second FH carries Orion. They dock and boost to the moon
https://x.com/deltaIV9250/status/1856535501538234662
is it really that shrimple?

Anonymous No. 16473853

>>16473851
I mean sure, that seems to be the prefered option, although it's maybe better to do that on a New Glenn S2, since it will have a higher launch rate than falcon heavy.

Anonymous No. 16473854

>>16473851
No, as rockets are not lego and you can't just put orion on it without shitloads of modification

Anonymous No. 16473857

>>16473853
Also NG S2 are already being designed to be "tankers" and independent spacecrafts that can maneuver and dock.

Anonymous No. 16473858

Is SpaceX contractually obligated to not do their own Lunar/Mars landings before they do NASA's?

Anonymous No. 16473860

but what about gateway

Anonymous No. 16473861

>>16473849
The thermal environment on a trip to mars will be far harsher than LEO with starship flying through Earth's shadow for part of the orbit.
Every item on the checklist that has to be dialed in for the trip to Mars also makes Starship overkill for LEO and Moon ops.

Anonymous No. 16473862

>>16473851
or you could refuel a 2nd stage with reused F9 launches

At that point, why are you sending an orion capsule at all when the HLS is flying seperately

And why are we reenacting the Apollo program decades later when the whole lunar base bullshit setup could be done remotely

Anonymous No. 16473863

>>16473858
SpaceX still needs NASA help and they also have to do demonstration landing

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Anonymous No. 16473865

>>16473861
put it in a HEO that won't be eclipsed
>>16473860
No more cash for cuckboxes bullshit

Anonymous No. 16473866

>>16473860
The what?
Did you forget to take your meds anon?

Anonymous No. 16473867

>>16473862
>At that point, why are you sending an orion capsule at all when the HLS is flying seperately
How do you return?

Anonymous No. 16473868

>>16473867
Return?

Anonymous No. 16473869

>>16473867
what return?

Anonymous No. 16473870

>>16473867
RETVRN?

Anonymous No. 16473871

>>16473865
anon, that other anon's objection was starship needing additional insulation, if you put it in HEO or SSO it'll be worse not better

Anonymous No. 16473872

>>16473871
the whole point is testing Mars transit conditions jackass.

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Anonymous No. 16473873

Would be nice if they have a buoy far enough away that we can see the bellyflop happen from a good angle.

Anonymous No. 16473874

>>16473867
You send two Starships on a TLI, one to ferry the crew and another to be used as HLS

Anonymous No. 16473875

>>16473872
if you read the chain of replies it starts with the premise of a space station in LEO baka

Anonymous No. 16473877

>>16473873
Maybe we will have more footage as it will return during daylight this time

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Anonymous No. 16473878

>Debris flyby that took place during USA EVA 84 (Jan 20 2023) near the end of the spacewalk. The SSRMS (Canadarm2) was the only camera that took a video of the event and how it moved from aft to forward

jfc

Anonymous No. 16473879

>>16473877
That's what I mean.

Anonymous No. 16473880

>>16473851
Feb 2018, day of FH test flight, Elon said you could do a Moon landing with 3 FHs

Anonymous No. 16473881

>>16473875
shut up idiot

Anonymous No. 16473883

>>16473878
that was some very slow debris. I would think an encounter like that would happen at many times the speed of a bullet.

Anonymous No. 16473884

>>16473878
Never happened

Anonymous No. 16473885

Orbital railguns when?

Anonymous No. 16473886

>>16473883
Pretty sure flyback means it's something an astronaut dropped.

Anonymous No. 16473891

>>16473886
wow, didnt know there was a significant chance of dropped items rendevouzing with the station again like that.
If Starship makes space travel 100x cheaper its a matter of time before some social media influencer 'throws a ball around the world'

Anonymous No. 16473892

>>16473885
Why use railguns when you could use missiles? Conventional navies turned down railguns for the same reason

Anonymous No. 16473895

>>16473892
Because missiles are gay and lame.

Anonymous No. 16473896

>>16473891
it would be a cool challenge to catch it when it comes back around

Anonymous No. 16473897

>>16473891
>>16473896
I think you could make a sport out of this.

Anonymous No. 16473901

Zero G pro wrestling

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Anonymous No. 16473902

>>16472903
that's spelled with a c

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Anonymous No. 16473903

Freefall foxy boxing

Anonymous No. 16473906

>>16473880
Which 3?

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Anonymous No. 16473907

>100 MW concepts for space radiators operating at 1000K:
https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6608507
>There's sketches and estimates kW/kg figures for innovative designs like the belt loop and rotating balloon radiators, but the most interesting is the glass filament design that exceeds 67 kW/kg
https://x.com/ToughSf/status/1856743837911151038

Anonymous No. 16473908

>>16473880
He's such a faker lol. why doesnt he do it to prove it?

Anonymous No. 16473910

>>16473878
>this will only get worse with more starlinks
Grim

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Anonymous No. 16473911

>>16473267
https://x.com/boringcompany/status/1856750432909234401

Anonymous No. 16473914

>>16473911
>Elon talking to himself again

Anonymous No. 16473915

>>16473910
starlinks dont contribute to space debris since 1: they deorbit themselves with their ion engines at end of life. 2: if they lose contact completely they deorbit in a few years due to atmospheric drag since their in such a low orbit.
non issue

Anonymous No. 16473917

>>16473914
now we just need adrian dittman to chime in.

Anonymous No. 16473919

>>16473908
it would require a really smally lander

Anonymous No. 16473920

The Boring Company wasn't created for Mars, it was created for expeditions to the center of the Earth.

Anonymous No. 16473922

>>16473822
"But my feelings!" does not work anymore.

Anonymous No. 16473923

And here some anons used to be adamant that Boring Co. had nothing to do with the Mars project. Awful lot of "I told you so" happening these days.

Anonymous No. 16473924

>>16473854
You jest but FH would need some structural mods to handle the mass of a complete Orion spacecraft.

Anonymous No. 16473925

>>16473920
Starship isn't a rocket, it's a new kind of propulsive drill. That's why they made it so pointy. The world just isn't ready yet, so they're shooting it up instead of down

Anonymous No. 16473926

>>16473860
Gateway exists to give SLS somewhere to go.

Anonymous No. 16473929

>>16473923
Some people probably think the Tesla EVs aren't just R&D for low atmosphere jeeps too

Anonymous No. 16473930

>>16473926
Gateway exists to give dozens of astronauts and makework science projects somehwere to go. How do you maintain space cooperation with Europoors without an international space station?

Anonymous No. 16473932

>>16473930
what europoor rocket can take a capsule to lunar orbit

Anonymous No. 16473938

>>16473932
Good point and very short sighted of NASA

Anonymous No. 16473940

Why didn't SpaceX pursue metallic tiles?
NASA knew ceramic tiles were a dead end and created metallic tiles for venture star.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20040095922/downloads/20040095922.pdf

Anonymous No. 16473942

>>16473940
Recreating the shuttle tiles but less retarded was the quickest option available to get something working. They will have to R&D something better for Mars and Lunar return but these work for now.

Anonymous No. 16473943

>>16473932
SpaceX already flies every European astronaut minus those who fly on Soyuz. America will bus them to the Gateway and hold them as hostages in any future negotiation.

Anonymous No. 16473946

>>16473940
Metallic tiles are substantially heavier and extremely expensive.

Anonymous No. 16473949

Why didn't they move the flaps back earlier?

Anonymous No. 16473950

>>16473949
No inflight data, dumb dumb.

Anonymous No. 16473952

ain't it strange how other companies decide on the physical design of their rockets before they even start building
meanwhile SpaceX just kinda fudges with shit as they go along

Really says a lot

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Anonymous No. 16473956

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1856821851256676833
>Booster 13 has rolled out of Megabay 1 today and is expected to rollout to the launch complex overnight for upcoming Starship test flight 6 at T-minus 5 days and counting!
>11/13/24

Anonymous No. 16473957

>>16473950
Why didn’t they have inflight data earlier?

Anonymous No. 16473960

>>16473946
I doubt it. Otherwise they wouldnt work on the SSTO Venture Star. (yes it never flew, but NASA did trade studies and concluded it viable)

Anonymous No. 16473961

>>16473920
Manned mission to Theia

Anonymous No. 16473962

>>16473952
>meanwhile SpaceX just kinda fudges with shit as they go along
Other space agencies have less capital to risk and their reputation is on the line with every test and launch, meanwhile SpaceX has managed to turn the equation inside out and now failures are understood as another form of success.

Now it would take a long chain of continous failures before SpaceX is treated like other space companies.

Anonymous No. 16473963

>>16473956
>all these american retards who commute in pickup trucks

Anonymous No. 16473964

>>16473957
Stop pretending to be retarded

Anonymous No. 16473965

>>16473963
bait

Anonymous No. 16473968

>>16473822
Maybe they shouldn't have been leeching off of TAXPAYER MONEY

Anonymous No. 16473969

>>16473946
PICA was extremely expensive and SpaceX made their own for pennies

Anonymous No. 16473971

anyone got the pic of the cybertruck towing an rvac clobbering a drone?

Anonymous No. 16473978

>>16473858
>contractually
No. All under the table. The tables have recently turned though

Anonymous No. 16473989

>>16473940
The last starship did have a few metallic test tiles on the side, but they melted.

Anonymous No. 16473991

>>16473956
>Cyber truck is missing a hub cap
Kek

Anonymous No. 16473993

>>16473989
THEY WERE MADE FROM ALUMINUM JACKASS

Anonymous No. 16473996

>>16473993
Is aluminum not a metal?

Anonymous No. 16473998

>>16473993
everything heavier than helium is a metal

Anonymous No. 16473999

water is metal

Anonymous No. 16474001

>>16473999
It has two helium molecules though so it's only one/third metal

Anonymous No. 16474002

>>16473830
He had to go see wooden doors with shapiro

Anonymous No. 16474005

drumpfts appointments keep getting crazier and crazier. i rly doubt that gaetz one goes through. leaves me questioning who the fuck hes going to put on the NASA admin, i get hes basically unleashed but need a reasonable pick that actually makes it thru senate is needed (which gaetz 100% doesnt). unless im wrong in that NASA admin needs to be confirmed by senate?

Anonymous No. 16474006

>>16473998
Hydrogen is metal in gaseous form

Anonymous No. 16474007

>Scientists blast Elon's controversial Starship tower for dumping millions of gallons of metal into surrounding wildlife reserve.

Anonymous No. 16474008

>>16473392
>take this same approach with shartship and it will literally never be safe enough to fly people.
>>16473394
Is there a starship with a cockpit that some tesla bots and crash test dummies can be strapped in to see how they fare? Of course the coming up launch is too soon and it would look bad if the first test with dummies comes back with watermelons splattered everywhere

Anonymous No. 16474009

>>16474005
Hulk Hogan NASA admin

Anonymous No. 16474010

>>16474005
>drumpfts appointments keep getting crazier and crazier
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Anonymous No. 16474011

>>16473956
The second successful tower catch will be wild, everyone's seen the first by now but two in a row will prove the first wasn't a fluke.

Anonymous No. 16474014

>>16474009
WE'RE GOING TO MARS BROTHER

JUST LOOK AT THIS SHINY METAL MISSILE URRRRROOOUUUH

Anonymous No. 16474015

>>16474010
bad if you want them to actually be appointed. senate leadership changed but theres only so far you can go before senators in bluer states have to put their foots down to keep their office. and if you put them thru via recess appointments then you have vengeful senators which with only 4 needing to defect to kill any bill is something you dont want.

Anonymous No. 16474016

>>16474015
New repub leader is also traitor rino shitcunt who hates the annoying orange

Anonymous No. 16474017

>>16473784
Why are WASPs such obedient jewish slaves?

Anonymous No. 16474019

>>16474016
he actually knows how to herd cats, hes better than cornyn thats for sure. rick scott is a blumpf loyalist but his record is pretty shit here in FL and he is not good at leading people from when he was in previous leadership positions. generally, thune was the best option we had to actually get things done even if hes not 100% a loyalist. just let vance be the policy advocate (hopefully more focus on space since hes on the national space council by default)

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Anonymous No. 16474020

>>16474005
>>16474009
Imagine this guy appointed NASA administrator.
What would be his first action?

Anonymous No. 16474021

>>16474017
can you fuck off?

Anonymous No. 16474022

>>16474021
No?

Anonymous No. 16474023

>>16474020
1000% send all nasa funding to ukraine and launch SLS directly at the kremlin. not a single doubt in my mind

Anonymous No. 16474024

>>16474023
Zubrin is spineless, he would never do something so based.

Anonymous No. 16474025

>>16474020
are you sourcing ideas for your position bobby?

Anonymous No. 16474027

>>16474020
Immediate launch of all available vehicles at Moscow and cancellation of starship program unless they build mini starship.

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Anonymous No. 16474028

>>16473998
take your AIDS elsewhere astroonomer

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Anonymous No. 16474030

>>16473989
aluminium coated tiles, which melts at the temp stainless starts to fail, to gauge the heating in the areas where catch hardware needs to go

data from Fight 5 clearly made SpaceX confident in stainless's ability to handle that level of heating given how S31's TPS was stripped down

Anonymous No. 16474031

>>16473452
>when it presents obvious disadvantages?
Such as? Isn't aerodynamic important

Anonymous No. 16474032

zoobrine is zased, he hates pootler and invented ministarship. what more could you ask for in an administrator?

Anonymous No. 16474033

>>16474032
Not being jewish
Unfortunately that disqualifies him

Anonymous No. 16474034

>>16474031
>Such as?
lower payload volume and weird ass payload bay shape making thepractical internal volume even smaller.
And higher peak heating on the nose during reentry.

Anonymous No. 16474035

>>16474033
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16474036

>>16474028
why did NASA go throughthe rigmarole of developing a whole new suit for artemis instead of using constellation suits?

Anonymous No. 16474037

>>16474030
i can't believe it was that easy in rocketry

Anonymous No. 16474038

>>16474035
>yes I want my politicians to have dual loyalty
And other statements dreamt up by the utterly deranged

Anonymous No. 16474039

>>16474034
I think it will eventually be changed to a simple dome top. It will look absolutely heinous but will allow for the header tank space to be properly utilised, payload bay not a retarded mess and simpler re entry. Tradeoff will be worse aerodynamics during initial stage of launch in thick atmo but improving superheavy will counter this. Yeah. eseffgee gonna hate it.

Anonymous No. 16474040

>I want politicians
you don't belong here pal

Anonymous No. 16474042

Hypothetically, could you hide a spaceship in the core of a planetary body? Or is being at the center of a planet not actually going to result in weightlessness?

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Anonymous No. 16474043

>At 6:42 on November 14, 2024, the ocean salinity detection satellite Haiyang-4 01 was launched by the Long March 4B Y53 carrier rocket at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center. The launch mission was a complete success.
>This mission is the 545th launch of the Long March series of carrier rockets and the final launch of the Long March 4 series of carrier rockets in 2024.

>The satellite is equipped with payloads such as a comprehensive aperture radiometer and active and passive detectors
>After being launched into orbit, it can fill the gap in my country's high-precision global ocean salinity detection capabilities, improve China's ability to obtain data on marine dynamic environmental factors, and enhance the accuracy and quality of China's marine forecast products
>It can meet the business needs of marine environmental forecasts, marine ecological forecasts, water cycle monitoring, short-term climate forecasts, and global climate change research, and take into account soil moisture measurements, providing supporting data for marine industry applications and related industry applications such as agriculture and rural areas, disaster reduction, and meteorology, forming application product capabilities.

Anonymous No. 16474044

>>16474042
>>16473964

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>>16474043
Launch patch, that one had gridfins for a controlled crash.

Anonymous No. 16474046

>>16474043
I sometimes worry how much information can be extracted from a country's activity that goes beyond just straight up optical/Infra/SAR photos

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16474047

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16474049

>>16474047
You fuck

Anonymous No. 16474050

>>16474046
The three you mentioned allowed for pretty much all the eye of sauron shit you could ever want. Only other thing I could think is a giant fuck off phased array receiver for snooping on any kind of EM communications. I wonder if that can be SAR dual purpose even?

Really looking forward to the global kill grid constellations monitoring every single moving thing on the planet in real time and feeding it back to nascent AIs.

Anonymous No. 16474052

>>16473472
>Seeing a lot of comments saying nothing is going to happen with DOGE
>I think the first layoffs need to hit before it really starts to sink in for most people
The nature of economy, the infinite types of jobs, varying levels and groupings of complexities, is very unlike any economy on earth before, when for 1000s of years there were like only 1000s of possible jobs, now there are millions or billions,
Coupled with the increase post industrial revolutions, post computer age, post automated factories, post ai, of mechanical efficiency making human operation inefficient or redundant:
The nature of economy now, and in the future is strange.
X amount of people are fired from government jobs, what can they possibly do, go on unemployment, get jobs elsewhere. What when more and more people, less and less jobs available, andor less qualified people for them.

For people who don't have jobs, how do they know what field or job to pursue?

You fire 20,000 or more government workers, they go on unemployment? They have pensions? Unemployment then government just paying people to not work,

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Anonymous No. 16474054

https://x.com/sen/status/1856752049465041407
>Our cameras filmed a flyby of an object below the ISS. Any guesses what it could be?

Anonymous No. 16474056

>>16474052
They can go pick cotton as restitution to the American people for the countless amount of dollars they have sucked out of the peoples pockets with their parasitic uselessness.

Anonymous No. 16474057

>>16474054
chinese spysat

Anonymous No. 16474058

>>16473483
>The reason it hasn't achieved much is because almost none of that $42B has been deployed yet. The program has so far mostly been stuck in bureaucracy and approvals processes
The linked website said 45bil+ has already been awarded or given or whatever.

Anonymous No. 16474059

>>16474052
>X amount of people are fired from government jobs, what can they possibly do
Get marched into the sea.

Anonymous No. 16474060

>>16474054
one of the millions of random LEO objects

Anonymous No. 16474061

>>16474058
the government doesn't pay you up front for shit

Anonymous No. 16474062

>>16474050
>feeding it back to nascent AIs.
Project Maven seemed to work along that line, is just that is filled with a shitload of secrecy, so it is hard to separate the system from the legend.

But I was thinking about things like of finding the relationship between things like salinity, cloud formation or air composition and say, levels of industrial activity or the kind of products that a factory could be outputting.

Anonymous No. 16474064

>>16474020
something about tiny "starships" and midget astronauts, then gets institutionalized

Anonymous No. 16474067

>>16474054
UFO

Anonymous No. 16474068

https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1856725762130260383
I really do think the water purity thing was the final nail in the coffin to make Elon go all in

Anonymous No. 16474070

>>16473567
>They're probably scared of losing it in the drink as it lands. They should drop something into the lake on purpose though, just to see what's down there.
>>16473605
With current state of the art drone technology and gopro with wifi. Why don't these observation craft have like 1000 drones and gopros bought from Walmart to just swarm out in all directions when approaching, in a play the odds attempt to get the most data/visuals as possible for these Uber expensive rare journeys?

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Anonymous No. 16474073

>>16474020
SLS is canceled and NASA begins immediate devlopment of a real Shuttle-derived launch vehicle

Anonymous No. 16474074

>>16474068
retard

Anonymous No. 16474077

>>16473468
It's unexpected how following spaceflight has been good for my personal growth because you see people that are living breathing cautionary tales

I think it's just impossible for me to be a hater because I've seen how it ends too many times.

Anonymous No. 16474078

>>16474068
So I guess Vivek will serve as the political guy who navigates the legal side of things while Elon is more into the technical side of things, what regulations to cut, and what to fire.

Anonymous No. 16474081

>>16474073
I dont know what it is called, but the particular obscure ares version with the hydrogen drop tanks was so cool

Anonymous No. 16474082

Quickly counting
>R7 familly launch success streak record is 146 in the early 90s.

>"old gen Long march" had a 131 orbital launches success streak , + 2 transatmospheric launches between 2020 and 2024, last failure was an optional YZ-1S kick stage partial failure (satellites still reached correct orbit), chinks don't consider it as a Long march failure tho; if you're being generous 156+2 success

>If you're being this generous (Old gen CZ have quite different S1, even if they use the same tech and engines, also made by 2 different companies) you may as well consider Atlas familly's 174 launch streak since 1993 (the one partial failre in 2007 was salvaged)

Anonymous No. 16474083

>>16473451
>major contrats to elon + an apointee job to elon

Wait elon got a major contract since the election? What was it? Also when did doge become a real government appointment? It's a civilian role to give your opinion to the budget office

Anonymous No. 16474088

>>16473435
>shareholder lunch starship

Anonymous No. 16474090

>>16474044
Fuck you.

Anonymous No. 16474091

>>16474078
Vivek is 100% running the day-to-day with elon coming in during manic periods to draft up all the bullshit that's been bothering him for the last few decades of business

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Anonymous No. 16474094

>>16473956
They make it look so easy

Anonymous No. 16474096

>>16474091
>autism-fueled rampages

Anonymous No. 16474098

>>16474096
The best kind

Anonymous No. 16474103

>>16473614
>The government has been hiding something about UFOs
Most likely it is:
Public, there might be UFOs, we think there might be, we require this amount of money to build satellites and aircraft and radar and such to investigate the ufo phenomenon

Anonymous No. 16474107

>>16473956
where is the 24m variant?

Anonymous No. 16474109

>>16473755
It is kind of cool to use platform x as a quasi-ish form of direct democracy, on challenge is bots

Anonymous No. 16474114

>>16473998
My autistic ass is annoyed at the fact that non-metals are called... nonmetals. Why not creating a new original name for them?

Anonymous No. 16474115

>>16474109
>It is kind of cool to
>>16474109
>It is kind of cool to use platform x as a quasi-ish form of direct democracy, only challenge is bots
Future step is everyone registers there social security number to their verified smart phone account and voting platform to literally have every citizen directly vote on things in real time.

Only problem is not every individual has all relevant info off hand, which is the source of the convention of debates and representative leaders, back to Rome, orators and senators and Cicero. Representatives perform their debates and rhetoric to their local publics in ads and campaign trails to represent them.

It does bring up a lot of questions. What percentage of things should every American citizen have a direct vote on, if the tech exists to make that easily possible.

Anonymous No. 16474116

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cM2uSpC8rM
time to check out some uninformed takes presenting themselves as informed

is there any actually good video on realistic space warfare? not the submarines shooting lasers across the solar system at each other, but stuff for the next 100 years.

Anonymous No. 16474117

>>16474054
venus

Anonymous No. 16474120

>>16474103
If you watched it, you will know it goes deeper. Really credible people are testifying before congress, and leaking extraordinary things. There are sightings of incredible technology all the time that defy physics, and also interact and react, even threaten and pursue our pilots, and actively monitor high sensitivity sites (military and nuclear) with great preference. Then there are the sworn claims of recovered said advanced tech, and even some biological specimens (alien bodies). But it seems to be ultra advanced AI drones and not biological, for the most part.
These sightings are real, and they MUST be declassified, not stigmatize reporters both civilian and military, and find out what the hell is going on. We have a right to know, or at least study it, for real this time. This is a REAL danger, if they are here, and fucking with us.

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Anonymous No. 16474121

https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1856854759074054468

Anonymous No. 16474123

>>16474109
>>16474115
Then again there is the fact, and this is a strong aspect of American history, policy, government spending, taxes. Not every American pays the same amount of taxes.

Should there be a proportionality of votes according to amount of taxes paid?

Again, people can be dumb and arbitrary, and pay a lot of taxes, can they vote to use their share of taxes to blow up a big balloon full of confetti and pop it over a field?

It's often said the largest companies and richest avoid taxes, as a kind of payment for them, for providing x amount of jobs, that generate y amount of commerce, and z amount of employees who are taxed.

Anonymous No. 16474124

>>16474120
i aint never seen a ufo video that thunderf00t didnt sucesfully debunk.

Anonymous No. 16474125

>>16474116
Laser tech has been making massive strides and showing no signs of stopping. Missiles in space stand 0 chance in the future, especially since atmospheric dispersion is not an issue and you can plink them from a million miles out. Given the limitations of railguns needing regularly replaced heavy as fuck and expensive barrels, as well as the visibility of everything in space, frankly I see the future being pointing lasers at each other until the enemy cooks. Easy to point your laser at a cunt from 999999 miles away while their .01c railguns cant hit shit as you shuck and jive. Whoever has the best heat dispersion and most efficient laser system wins. Sounds mega gay and cringe which is why it's going to happen.

Anonymous No. 16474126

>>16474121
shai-hulud ass

Anonymous No. 16474128

>>16474116
>16 mins in
>little of value said
>ctrl+w

Anonymous No. 16474130

>>16474121
>Confidential
uh huh, pull the other one
It's fucking Bezos

Anonymous No. 16474131

>>16474128
>>16474116
How does this milkdud narrate forso many big goyslop channels?

Anonymous No. 16474132

>>16474121
>2026
reminder that haven-1 is going up mid next year.

Anonymous No. 16474135

speaking of vast

https://x.com/vast/status/1856799637887488125
>Decades have passed since a space station primary structure has been manufactured in the United States. Vast is changing that. Our Haven-1 qualification primary structure is in its final stage of welding at our HQ facility. Next, the completed structure will go to our Mojave, CA facility for a critical test to demonstrate its ability to handle the pressure and dynamic loads of launch and operation.
final stages of welding is crazy, hopefully they post those pressure tests

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Anonymous No. 16474136

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1856856980591431984
>Liftoff at 22:42UTC on November 13, Long March 4B Y53 launched a Ocean Salinity Observing Satellite (Haiyang-4-01) from Taiyuan

Anonymous No. 16474137

>>16473669
Possibly a ftm? They get some test and chimp out from not having a benis. Man-made horror-comedy beyond our comprehension.

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Anonymous No. 16474140

>>16474136
>The first stage is equipped with grid fins to mitigate the impacts on possible landing area

Anonymous No. 16474142

does ANYBODY care about chink f9 ripoffs if they dont land? i know i certainly dont.

Anonymous No. 16474143

>>16474136
>chinese have red exhaust
>spacex has blue exhaust
india is going to have brown exhaust arent they...

Anonymous No. 16474148

>>16474132
i bet it won't

Anonymous No. 16474151

>>16474052
literally all they need to do is change hiring/firing/raise requirements. they don't need to cut any money, just inject it with something resembling a free market. realistically all that will result from this is cutting money and regulation without increasing efficiency. people will get hurt and our systems will work worse

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Anonymous No. 16474154

>>16474073
>SLS is canceled and NASA begins immediate devlopment of a real Shuttle-derived launch vehicle
NASA should stop wasting money in launch vehicles, start making nuclear engines and giant spaceships to be launched with Starship and assembled in orbit.

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Anonymous No. 16474155

>>16474142
But they do land.

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Anonymous No. 16474158

>>16473834
>milled grids

Anonymous No. 16474160

if orion is forced to launch on falcon heavy then dragon should be forced to launch on new glenn

Anonymous No. 16474161

>>16473878
Is the graniness an artifact or reality? And that stripped blue pattern above their head

Anonymous No. 16474162

>>16474158
whats wrong with it? thats weight saving

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Anonymous No. 16474164

>>16474081
this one?

Anonymous No. 16474165

>>16473961
Elon is going to Argatha

Anonymous No. 16474167

>>16474160
Orion on new glenn

Anonymous No. 16474168

>>16474164
the one with shuttle external tanks as drop tanks for the 1st stage

Anonymous No. 16474169

>>16473915
>they deorbit themselves with their ion engines at end of life
How long they last, and don't alot of com sats function pretty long

Anonymous No. 16474171

>>16474169
they may be up there for a while, but their orbits are tracked and they can dodge debris. debris is only a problem when its un controlled.

Anonymous No. 16474172

>>16473915
>if they lose contact completely they deorbit in a few years due to atmospheric drag since their in such a low orbit.
What about the other shells?

Anonymous No. 16474173

>>16473940
>Why didn't SpaceX pursue metallic tiles?
What kind of metal? Was it thought ceramic does something better, heat transfer or something, or weight situation

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Anonymous No. 16474174

>>16474154
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4702054_Mars_Direct_A_Simple_Robust_and_Cost_Effective_Architecture_for_the_Space_Exploration_Initiative

>While the Mars Direct architecture can be initiated solely with the use of chemical propulsion, it is particularly amenable to the introduction of nuclear thermal rockets (NTR) as soon as that technology becomes available. The reason for this is that the Ares launch vehicle can deliver NTR stages directly to a nuclear safe (700 km) orbit, and the architecture involves no LEO infrastructure positioned below this orbit. In addition, the modest size, mass, and per-unit cost of NTR engines makes NTR the advanced propulsion technology of choice for use in the expendable Mars Direct mode. Such expendable utilization would be unthinkable for multi-MW nuclear electric propulsion (NEP) units, for example, the mass of which are typically an order of magnitude larger than NTRs.

>In keeping with the overall approach of the Mars Direct architecture, then, namely the elimination of the need for orbital infrastructure, NTR technology is incorporated into the plan simply as a third stage to the Ares launch vehicle. Such a configuration is shown in Fig. 10. The NTR stage has a specific impulse of 900s, a power of 900 MWth, and a thrust of 45,000 lb. With the addition of this stage the Ares can throw 70 metric tons on to a minimum energy trans-Mars injection trajectory (C3=15), an increase of about 50% over the 47 metric ton TMI all-chemical Ares baseline.

>The performance of the NTR augmented Ares is limited by the fact that the NTR must be fired from LEO, and the baseline 2 stage Ares vehicle is not optimized for LEO delivery, as with 250,000 lb thrust its second stage is under powered. (The 250 klb thrust is optimized for direct trans-Mars injection.) If the thrust of the second stage is increased, the LEO delivery capability can be increased, and the TMI throw also increased accordingly.

Anonymous No. 16474178

>>16474174
Go home dr. zubrin, the supper bell is ringing at the old folk’s home

Anonymous No. 16474179

>>16474169
The official figure getting thrown around is 5 years and the oldest ones on station are actually 5 years old (give or take a few days).
The lower they fly the pricier station keeping is, other comsats (you're thinking of GEO) only compensate for drift, starlinks have to overcome drag on top of that and orbit raising and lower to phase into the correct plane after launch.
Which is all besides the point since their development cycles are shorter than their on orbit lifetime. Laser interconnects were worked in as an upgrade, then direct to cell and after starship starts flying full sized ones, other customers will want hosted payloads so they'll keep getting replaced as they fall victim to scope creep.

Anonymous No. 16474181

>>16474039
>I think it will eventually be changed to a simple dome top. It will look absolutely heinous but will allow for the header tank space to be properly utilised, payload bay not a retarded mess and simpler re entry. Tradeoff will be worse aerodynamics during initial stage of launch in thick atmo but improving superheavy will counter this. Yeah. eseffgee gonna hate it.
Has there been any legit consideration of that? You think if so, it will roll out over successive flights losing thinness each time, to determine the merits of shape? Or may consensus be now no change really is intended or needed?

Anonymous No. 16474184

>>16473681
>>16473769
>>16473733
if that was Dreamchasers flight realistically what could Sierra Nevada have done to save at least the spaceplane portion?

Fuck though imagine being a Dreamchaser/Sierra employee watching that launch knowing that could've been your fucking launch ruined

Anonymous No. 16474185

>>16473702
love this artist so much, space yuri peak

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Anonymous No. 16474188

VGH SO MVCH SOVL

Anonymous No. 16474189

>>16473702
remove the skanks and its a great image.

Anonymous No. 16474190

>>16474189
this anon is homosexual

Anonymous No. 16474192

>>16474181
>consensus be now no change really is intended or needed?
they arent focused on the payload volume or mass reduction right now so havent given it much thought. if the nose was a dome then the forward flaps wouldnt have even had the burnthrough on the v1 ships.
moving the flaps backward is a silly workaround which solves one problem but makes it even harder to have a payload bay door on that curved nose surface.
once they get serious about integrating a payload bay door then they will suddenly have the genius idea to make the ship dome topped so the door can have hinges on a straight surface like shuttle. they will also be able to move the forward flaps back to where they were on the v1 ships.

Anonymous No. 16474193

>>16474174
> namely the elimination of the need for orbital infrastructure
Lets do our silly mars destination apollo program in a single launch because we are autistic and only care about boots & flags

Anonymous No. 16474194

>>16474181
>Has there been any legit consideration of that?

There's a joe rogan clip where Elon says he wants it pointy because of the dictator movie, not a joke, acknowledges aero effects are negligible. Bet he is regretting that.

Anonymous No. 16474195

>>16474040
you will never get rid of politicians, you merely replace them

Anonymous No. 16474200

>>16474070
>With current state of the art drone technology and gopro with wifi. Why don't these observation craft have like 1000 drones and gopros bought from Walmart to just swarm out in all directions when approaching, in a play the odds attempt to get the most data/visuals as possible for these Uber expensive rare journeys?
??
Why doesn't every launched probe or fly by visualizer whatever, have 1000s of mini-ish cheapish drones it drops to swarm out across the surface with video cameras that can send back the feed?

Anonymous No. 16474201

space is hard stop asking questions

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Anonymous No. 16474203

https://x.com/nvslive/status/1856864625826181446
>[1 hour left] 2024.11.14 11:00~ Launch of the S-520-34 Sounding Rocket. We will be live streaming the launch of the "Liquid Propellant Rotating Detonation Engine System Flight Demonstration Experiment," which was postponed due to the earthquake.

>Outline of the experiment [Liquid Propellant Rotation Detonation Engine System Flight demonstration experiment]
>Based on the success of the space demonstration of the Detonation Engine System (DES)* on the observation rocket S-520-31, the objective is to develop a rotating detonation engine system (DES2) using liquid fuel (ethanol) and oxidant (liquefied nitrous oxide), and to actually operate it in space and evaluate its propulsion performance.Large-capacity data (digital images) acquired during the operation of DES2 is collected by the onboard inflatable data recovery system (RATS2).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7iCbxtSVPE

Anonymous No. 16474205

>>16474068
>water purity thing
What water purity thing
There is nothing more important than the purity of a mans precious vital fluids

Anonymous No. 16474206

>>16473662
yeah, this is extreme TDS lol

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Anonymous No. 16474207

>>16474168
I've been scanning all over different post-shuttle era projects but i cant find this, sounds cool though. Kinda like NLS-1 minus the STMEs on the strap on cores?

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Anonymous No. 16474208

KWAB

Anonymous No. 16474209

>>16473760
it's just going to be another implementation of the office of the inspector general
unironically just another wasteful redundant department

Anonymous No. 16474211

>>16474207
sure enough this guy has an animation of one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xiWn4n8JE

Anonymous No. 16474214

ermmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm who asked

Anonymous No. 16474215

>>16474120
All these occurancces many occur near military bases? Wouldn't think there would be a lot of clear security cameras getting good views of the area, and not one clear zoomed enhanced video of ufo ever?

Anonymous No. 16474216

>>16474211
love Haze Grey. Stupid ass design though

Anonymous No. 16474218

>>16474188
>Elon Musk's vision for Deimos, aspirationally completed by 2017

Anonymous No. 16474219

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16474220

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16474221

>>16474216
it would've worked incredibly if the SRBs weren't so heavy

Anonymous No. 16474222

>>16474161
Are you a little slow?

Anonymous No. 16474223

>>16474219
Do you really want to?

Anonymous No. 16474224

>>16474223
Weirdo

Anonymous No. 16474225

>>16474208
>democrat propaganda machine: trust us bro

Anonymous No. 16474226

>>16474225
>DURRRR ITS FROM DUH DEMONRATS IT CANT BE TRUE MUH LIBTURDS
you realize most info you get is from dems right

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Anonymous No. 16474227

I like Ceres

Anonymous No. 16474228

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1856522880143745133
>1.1M Views

How??? This is Bergers highest ever impression btw

Anonymous No. 16474229

>>16474125
What they use magnifying glasses, how beam so much laser power so far through atmos? Or chills in orbit, then descends using laser as falling?

Anonymous No. 16474230

>>16474226
You lost

Anonymous No. 16474232

>>16474005
>leaves me questioning who the fuck hes going to put on the NASA admin,
It's going to be brilliant pebbles anon

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Anonymous No. 16474233

>>16474121
>More Virginia launches
I'll try to get us some up close footage.

Anonymous No. 16474234

>>16474211
In trying to find info about that config. of Jupiter I found this document (doi:10.2514/6.2007-6231) JWST took so fucking long to launch back in 2007 they're like "yeah yknow JWST will launch soon and you'll need to service it eventually and we could do that which Ares I couldn't (p. 63)

Anonymous No. 16474235

>>16473861
>>16473865
>>16473871
going into shadow doesn't really matter, being in LEO is hotter than being in a HEO or interplanetary at 1 AU due to radiated heat from the earth occupying half of the freaking horizon

Anonymous No. 16474236

>>16474228
really? hasn't elon replied to or quoted him at some point?

Anonymous No. 16474237

>>16474228
>1.1m views

All me

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Anonymous No. 16474238

>>16474234
found it: doi:10.2514/6.2006-7517
p. 42

Anonymous No. 16474240

thank you

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Anonymous No. 16474243

>>16474227
look at all the free real estate

Anonymous No. 16474244

>>16474123
>Again, people can be dumb and arbitrary, and pay a lot of taxes, can they vote to use their share of taxes to blow up a big balloon full of confetti and pop it over a field?
This is where the power of the (united) people come in, 50x wealthy tax payers want money spent on this, 10000x public at large contributes y amount of dollars, how clear is their say on what they want it spent on. What are the options and limits of options

Anonymous No. 16474246

>>16474238
unironic KSP design

Anonymous No. 16474248

>>16474151
>people will get hurt and our systems will work worse
How do you, would you overall assess the state of the nation
What are some major issues, and what are some major methods of fixing them

Anonymous No. 16474250

>>16474222
No, very

Anonymous No. 16474251

>>16474151
You're fired!

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Anonymous No. 16474252

Will martians have their own version of ebonics?

Anonymous No. 16474254

>>16474252
Belters

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Anonymous No. 16474257

>>16474246
"We're gonna take the Ares V motors, and tweakscale them 50% bigger! that'll do"
same thrust as a raptor 2 with an extra 30-40 sec isp?

Anonymous No. 16474258

>>16474252
No we won't be taking niggers to mars

Anonymous No. 16474259

>>16474184

Anonymous No. 16474260

Ayo mang we gotta be droppin dat rog on dem urfers frfr

Anonymous No. 16474261

>>16474192
screencapped

Anonymous No. 16474263

>>16474252
It will probably be the opposite. Martians will speak what will be considered an archaic form of English and their language wil be the closest living example to how we spoke, meanwhile what is considered formal language on Earth will be like Jamaican patois today.

Anonymous No. 16474264

gay rocket scientist extraordinaire

genderless with a hint of girl, just gaying in her gay ways

t4t sapphic

Anonymous No. 16474265

>>16474264
>average spitterer be like

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Anonymous No. 16474266

space house
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1015-Fantasy-Dr-Davenport-FL-33896/351952944_zpid/

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16474268

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16474269

>>16474200
>1000s of mini-ish cheapish drones it drops to swarm out across the surface with video cameras that can send back the feed?
Is it feasible (what are the coming up desired planet/moon imaging missions?) To have video camera drones (100 to 1000 or so) be self controlled and send back video feed?
Or self controlled drones would be very improbable, and sending back stream of video feed from 1000 drones would be improbable?

The mother ship fly by'er, opens the hatch, drops her babes, they swarm in all directions: each of them sends 2 streams of audio visual feed for playing the odds redunancy, 1 to the mother ship and 1 feed to Earth or earth satellites.

Scale from 1 to 1,000,000 how expensive/difficult would that be? (2 answers, expensive scale? Difficulty scale?

Anonymous No. 16474270

the bot is back

Anonymous No. 16474271

she/her | Space stuff, rocket stuff, trans stuff, transit stuff |

Anonymous No. 16474272

>>16474270
he's not a bot dude, he's chill. Probably got banned when the janny was banning everyone for posting about the election.

Anonymous No. 16474273

>>16474266
its like an alien's idea of a space house. just terrible wall art etc.

Anonymous No. 16474275

>>16474227
Craters are from asteroid strikes, is it thought the material disintegrates on impact, or are there asteroids buried under crater sites?

Anonymous No. 16474276

>>16474266
while I remember space camp fondly, I don't think I'd want to live there forever. It is difficult to even tell what's happening in these pictures. So much wall art and so many props

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16474278

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16474279

>>16474271
I know who's bio this is. Funny watching them go mask off that being gay is more important to them than space ever was.

Anonymous No. 16474280

>>16474278
You have to post fuck yous that make sense anon

Anonymous No. 16474281

>>16474280
NTA but I post fuck yous as a bookmark.

Anonymous No. 16474282

>>16474279
they're deleting their twitter too apparently

space trannies in shambles rn after Elon/Trump's win (Bigly)

Anonymous No. 16474283

>>16474270
>the BUGS are back

Anonymous No. 16474284

>>16474192
The payload bay door appears to be on the side of ship, not nose

Anonymous No. 16474286

>>16474279
>i wont support spaceX anymore or retweet them or feel any joy ever again watching Starship because SpaceXs owner is transphobe/right-winger

Like how is that SpaceX's fault lol, why are trannies so bad at nuance and so melodramatic, good riddance

Anonymous No. 16474287

i'll post fuck you when i please nigger

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16474288

fuck you?

Anonymous No. 16474289

>>16474269
>The mother ship fly by'er, opens the hatch, drops her babes, they swarm in all directions: each of them sends 2 streams of audio visual feed for playing the odds redunancy, 1 to the mother ship and 1 feed to Earth or earth satellites.
>Scale from 1 to 1,000,000 how expensive/difficult would that be? (2 answers, expensive scale? Difficulty scale
Eventually this will be done but each drone will have its own hatch full of bio materials and others to experimentally seed the planets, with tracker in the mix so the location can be checked at a later date

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Anonymous No. 16474290

>>16474264

Anonymous No. 16474291

>>16474281
I fuck you post as well but it has to make sense

Anonymous No. 16474292

no fuck you

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Anonymous No. 16474293

>>16474266
This is amazing! I wish I could live there

Anonymous No. 16474294

>>16474121
it's fucking Kuiper isn't it

Anonymous No. 16474295

>>16474293
Kys

Anonymous No. 16474296

>>16474281
>>16474291
>the fuck-you poster is more than 1 person
well, now my entire worldview is destroyed. what else, are you all unironic earthers as well?

Anonymous No. 16474297

>>16474235
from the forbidden centaur LEO propellant depot paper:
>Summary of LEO thermal environment
>Solar Radiation: 429.2 BTU/hr/ft^2/degF
>Earth's IR lllumination: 70.2 BTU/hr/ft^2/degF
>Earth's IR Eclipse: 35.1 BTU/hr/ft^2/degF
According to this being in low orbit ranges from at worst 16% higher flux and at best 91% lower flux than being in deep space or HEO, in permanent sunlight, at Earth's altitude.
If earth's emitted power were anywhere near the sun's even for a horizon to horizon coverage it wouldn't god damn be so cold at night would it.

Anonymous No. 16474298

kill your shit?

Anonymous No. 16474299

>>16474291
Sometimes a bunch of e*rthers post while I am getting the captcha done

The fuck do you want from me

fuck you

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Anonymous No. 16474301

>>16474296
yes and we should Eartherise (earth rise) all the planets in Sol

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Anonymous No. 16474303

>>16474302
Grim

Verification not required

Anonymous No. 16474304

>>16474301
>we should Eartherise (earth rise) all the planets in Sol
more like Erase instead
fuck the s*l system

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>>16474304

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>>16474303
fuck you

Anonymous No. 16474309

Is there such a thing as a terravator

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Anonymous No. 16474313

>>16474306
you can't @ someone when fuck you posting idiot.

learn the rules of the game.

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Anonymous No. 16474318

>>16474314
>terraformed mercury
holy memeplanet

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Anonymous No. 16474319

>terraformposting
Don't get me started, you've been warned.

Anonymous No. 16474320

>>16474188
>square buildings in vacuum

Anonymous No. 16474322

>>16474233
Anon you gotta clean it up anon pls

Anonymous No. 16474323

>>16473434
but he's a chumbud from /vt/ tho

Anonymous No. 16474333

>>16474319
why don't we do this?

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>>16473792

Anonymous No. 16474336

>>16474323
no streams gonna do that to a nigga

Anonymous No. 16474337

>>16474333
We can't.... we frogot how

Anonymous No. 16474339

>>16474333
You'd have to do it at night.

Anonymous No. 16474341

>>16474320
>he thinks its in a vacuum

Anonymous No. 16474342

I can tell you everything about rockets except what a centaur is. What the hell is that

Anonymous No. 16474343

>>16474342
its a human and a horse combined

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Anonymous No. 16474345

>>16474306
>ywn walk through the warm wet forests of terraformed Venus
>ywn experience the genetically engineered flora softly glowing through the four month long night
Freeze me in a block of ice and lock it away for a millennia

Anonymous No. 16474353

>>16474345
im going to say something and it starts with an R

Anonymous No. 16474362

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfu8VxWVeYI
Starlink launch in 8 min

Anonymous No. 16474364

ruck you

Anonymous No. 16474365

>>16474269
If someone smart reads this please respond

Anonymous No. 16474366

>>16474275
>Craters are from asteroid strikes, is it thought the material disintegrates on impact, or are there asteroids buried under crater sites?
This too, if anyone smart happens to know the answer, thanks

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Anonymous No. 16474368

woosh

Anonymous No. 16474369

STUFF FALLING OFF

Anonymous No. 16474376

Today is the 55th anniversary of SCE to AUX

Anonymous No. 16474378

Isn't giving Elon a government position problematic in terms of finance ethics given that SpaceX receives funding from the government? Kind of becomes a conflict of interest no?

Anonymous No. 16474380

>>16474365
The technology is there to make 1000 Ingenuity’s, we just dont have the infrastructure for all that data. The DSN is already overloaded and adding 1000 video feeds that are constantly running with the newest specs would mean that almost none of the data youre getting can come back. Doing this would require massive upgrades and overhauls to the current network which nobody wants to pay for until SpaceX gets everything ready for the colonization process at which point you can just have people explore or with ground drones instead. Also reconnaisance orbiters get all the important data you want requiring far less anyways. Project overall would require massive upgrades to data transfer (expensive), construction of bleeding edge copters perfectly designed for Mars that wouldnt last very long like rovers do, and will be unneeded within a short time period. Its not the most expensive or unfeasible process, but still redundant and improbable so I’ll rate it a 50,000. Im assuming this is for Mars, different for other planets.

Anonymous No. 16474382

>>16474369
Its called ice

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Anonymous No. 16474384

>>16474378
Silence, you!

Anonymous No. 16474387

>>16474369
>>16474382
fairing plugs

Anonymous No. 16474388

>>16474151
>just inject it with something resembling a free market
Twitter was also free market doesn't mean it's efficient.
The real question is if any of the military will fall under doge as well. Apart from ss and Medicare it's the next most expensive thing in the budget

Anonymous No. 16474389

>>16474378
Since when did Trump care about optics? As far as his administration goes, Elon's position is hardly the most controversial.

Anonymous No. 16474394

>>16474116
>is there any actually good video on realistic space warfare?

Some basic fundamentals about orbital mechanics and the relevance of launch site locations is a good place to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmFb-4KVG4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIXiK41yl_w

Anonymous No. 16474396

>>16474227
Ceres deserves to be with Mars. Those tiny asteroids aren't shit compared to ceres.

Anonymous No. 16474398

>>16474380
No wasn't thinking of Mars, was thinking other planets anons are always talking about wishing more images, only reason you couldn't use off shelf drones slightly modded would be need to custom mod it to work in target atmosphere?

I'm saying one of those fly by missions to this or that planet or moon, cheap drone tech is abundant, a/v feed can be sent back to fly by mothercraft

Imagine 1000 drones flying around earth recoding HD a/v of different locations... but on all the other planets

Anonymous No. 16474399

>>16474378
No, its just an advisory role to cut across all of the gov, not about contractual fundings

Anonymous No. 16474404

>>16474378
No, fuck off

Anonymous No. 16474411

>>16473649
he's got pretty smooth arms though

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Anonymous No. 16474419

>>16474001
>It has two helium molecules though so it's only one/third metal

Anonymous No. 16474420

>>16474419
Typical mudslime mentality

Anonymous No. 16474433

How will the SpaceX board of directors respond to the growing calls for independence from the motherland due to rising taxation and governmental overreach on Martian soil?

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Anonymous No. 16474441

wtf
>https://x.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1856950984980738082

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Anonymous No. 16474453

>>16474441
>it's real

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Anonymous No. 16474454

Multiple launches per day almost every day now

Anonymous No. 16474456

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1856893117686816917

Starlink for Cuba?

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Anonymous No. 16474457

>>16474454
At what point do we simply stop tracking every single launch? Not like we track each and every plane taking off.

Anonymous No. 16474458

>>16474457
People will still track it, but for /sfg/ most dont care about normal F9 launches now. We do care about the special launches. When we get weekly Starship flight, that will happen the same too.

Anonymous No. 16474461

>>16474458
wrong starship flights are much more sovl, plus inspace docking.

Anonymous No. 16474462

>>16474461
So they say with F9 and Falcon Heavy

Anonymous No. 16474463

>>16474462
no they didnt. also what else would there to be to look forward to then other than special starship missions (which would then also become far more common)?

Anonymous No. 16474466

>>16473963
It's Texas, what did you expect? There, you either get a big car or get run over.

Anonymous No. 16474468

>>16474457
I yearn for the day the goblina and the other dickheads vacate the webcasts, all the tourists fuck off and i can go be the foamer equivalent of spaceflight I always wanted to be.

Anonymous No. 16474469

>>16474468
Expand on this.

Anonymous No. 16474471

a little under 50 days until we reach the best year for spaceflight ever. its going to be so fucking hype bros

Anonymous No. 16474473

>>16474468
>>16474469
Shuttle-era NSF was like this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFfQkTHOWg

Anonymous No. 16474479

>>16474441
any bets who will it be for real?
My money is on William Gerstenmaier

>inb4 Jim Bridenstine
>inb4 Gwynne Shotwell

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Anonymous No. 16474487

>>16474469
I have had it up to here hearing the diverse, multicultural, mystery meat latinx bumbling over her own words and talking over mission control exactly, the same, way, every, single, time. Every, single, flight. For 300 flights in a row. You stupid cunt with your ass out.
Shut the fuck up.
That shit flies with such surgical precision never beheld by man you can put its flight plan into your phone and it'll spit out the 20 meter window on the ground where you need to park to see it transit the moon. You have that shit printed out on a timeline down to the second. The callouts happen every, single, time. At exactly, the same, time. And you can't after 300 times doing this shit get clued in as to when you need to shut the cunting fuck up and let the mission control audio come through. Her voice is like flossing my cranium ear through ear with barbed wire.
I am tired of hearing vaguely factual variations of what max q means while mission control interrupts you to call out max q, every, single, flight, cunt. Shut the fuck up and let me hear the rocket. At least the dude has the presence to shut the fuck up when there isn't anything to say.
Early SpaceX youtube where they had a hosted webcast and a technical webcast were the golden age.
This company can pluck a flying grain silo out of midair but cannot beat 2010 era justin tv production quality it is beyond the pale.
Put the rocket on the screen and mic so i can hear the turbines, and a cam in the lox tank like the good old days and play classical over the coast and lock the latina out of mission control and I'll be eternally grateful. You cunts

Anonymous No. 16474494

>>16474487
And starlink webcasts are the comfiest experience currently. I am so glad they fucked off out of starlink launches at least and dread the possibility they'll cease coverage entirely.
I just want them to stop cutting right after SECO 1.
>yes i want to watch 40 minutes of a nozzle extension cooling over Mozart thank you

Anonymous No. 16474496

>>16473215
i forget how primitive and ramshackle boca felt 5 years ago. like orks building a spaceport

Anonymous No. 16474506

>>16474473
kek, that video smells like 2005

Anonymous No. 16474514

>>16474005
the senators and congressmen who get in the way are going to become targets
Musk has vowed to finance the campaigns of opponents in their districts
this is a unprecedented mandate, don't get in the fucking way
after the government is reformed then I would guess Musk loses a bit of interest (though supposedly America PAC is going to keep going in some form), but these things need to happen now

Anonymous No. 16474516

>>16474020
zubrin absolutely despises Trump

Anonymous No. 16474518

>>16474015
which is worse, a vengeful senator or vengeful voters?

Anonymous No. 16474521

>>16474052
they get a fucking job just like everyone else (or go on unemployment if they prefer that)

Anonymous No. 16474524

>>16474506
its 16 years ago which is apparently 2008 now.

Anonymous No. 16474526

>>16474125
ships are going to be cooking each other lmao

Anonymous No. 16474529

>>16474496
It still is orcs. Do you not know how many beaners make up SpaceX?

Anonymous No. 16474530

>>16474516
He seems to despise the democrat party leadership more lately. Still not as bad as his Putler seethe but that election REALLY fucked with his view on his party.

Anonymous No. 16474531

>>16474518
Senator when you have 2 years to accomplish goals. Being an incumbent in this day and age is an inherrent disadvantage so either way youre fucked, theyd rather be petty. Most of these vengeful senators are in states that wont vote them out either like Kentucky.

Anonymous No. 16474535

>>16474266
>we are *not* going

Anonymous No. 16474537

>>16474307
this needs to happen

Anonymous No. 16474538

>>16474319
lmao

Anonymous No. 16474541

Why does spaceguy5 always get into like 50 long chain reply arguments. Every time I check his page he ticks me off even more.

Anonymous No. 16474542

>>16474487
based

Anonymous No. 16474543

>>16474531
Musk should buy Kentucky

Anonymous No. 16474544

>>16474541
he is probably autistic

Anonymous No. 16474546

>>16474544
There are some parts of the spectrum that need to be blocked off.

Anonymous No. 16474551

>>16473235
You can minimize the inefficiency of the government by minimizing the government, which is what the DOGE will do.

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Anonymous No. 16474558

>>16473770
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856946632618557797

don't see anything relating to Musk overseeing his welcome, to the contrary actually
seems to be cope

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Anonymous No. 16474560

>>16474558
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1856898430410326283
>President Trump is working late into the night tonight at Mar-a-Lago with @elonmusk by his side

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856947186585510382
>Lovely dinner

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Anonymous No. 16474561

>>16474473
This video is a goldmine desu
>Boomer Powerpoint slideshow
>SSME-watch as the precursor of today's Raptor watch
>Ares-coaster
>Babby concept sketch pic related
>The exact same Mars deep space mockups
>Orion boilerplate that ended up launching 10 years later
>Topped off by epic movie soundtrack

Anonymous No. 16474564

>>16474558
*overstaying

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Anonymous No. 16474565

>>16474560
https://x.com/margommartin/status/1856880252615610474

Anonymous No. 16474568

>>16474227
Why don't we push Ceres into Mars orbit so it finally has a proper moon?

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Anonymous No. 16474570

PEBBLE STATUS: ACTIVATING

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Anonymous No. 16474571

Does /sfg/ have good taste?

Anonymous No. 16474572

>>16474571
Neptune number one.

Anonymous No. 16474573

Still holding at partly cloudy and 24% precipitation

Anonymous No. 16474588

>>16474441
>Not Wernher von Kerman
ngmi

Anonymous No. 16474590

>>16474571
>no Mars
YIKES

Anonymous No. 16474596

It’s so funny to me that most of the CSM / Lunar Module names were serious—such as Aquarius, Endeavour, Intrepid
Meanwhile john young and gene cernan were like
>anyways here is the CSM Charlie Brown

Anonymous No. 16474600

>>16474441
Yup, I’m thinking this “rich new buyer” of the KSP IP is indeed Elon

Anonymous No. 16474605

>>16474600
what?
lmao

Anonymous No. 16474611

>>16474600
Elon does not splurge money on shit that doesn't support the mission.

Anonymous No. 16474613

>>16474611
You don’t see the vision

Anonymous No. 16474615

>>16473702
Imagine the coriolis

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Anonymous No. 16474616

>>16474596
How did they get away with it? It would be like naming it Dragon Yotsuba or Starship Geso

Anonymous No. 16474618

>>16474616
The silent generation was simply enthralled by charlie brown and snoopy

Anonymous No. 16474622

>>16474205
I think he meant the deluge system that ESGhound freaked out about cause they accidentally converted mercury to the same unit.

Anonymous No. 16474625

>8 launches away from tying last year's total number of launches
soon

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Anonymous No. 16474626

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfo4k5lmBQw

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Anonymous No. 16474631

>>16474626

Anonymous No. 16474638

>>16474558
and all you have to do to get him to go anyway is to rein in the FAA and let him launch shit already, then he goes back to the boca

Anonymous No. 16474640

>>16474521
>they get a fucking job just like everyone else (or go on unemployment if they prefer that)
A new city needs to be built, so all the hard to find job laborers, all the un and under employed, all the anxious and uncertainy, all those who play video games 9 hours a day but feel they might not actually want to, all the meek and downtrodden and weary or whatever it is masses, need a new start, to be a part of the welcoming construction of a burgeoning haven, to see in what way they may be able to help. Of course that's a bit outlandish, only the absolute top of the shelf strongest and smartest are able and needed to build cities, anything less would be slow, dangerous, and in the way, so I suppose it would be partly for them once completed. But who knows.

I've in passing mentioned a disruptive for many lucrative for many idea, and the power of its possible impact is scary, in relation to the lack of infinite freedom earth being distantly akin to a prison, and knowing how ethnicities operate in prison, and knowing that America is a microcosm of the world.

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Anonymous No. 16474656

How is he taking the news?

Anonymous No. 16474657

>>16474656
in denial

Anonymous No. 16474659

>>16474656
Its not news, its rumor.

Anonymous No. 16474664

any hints of who the next nasa admin could be?

Anonymous No. 16474673

>>16474656
Denial. He says a Trump/Musk regime will HELP SLS.
If he's right and they somehow get it launching 5x a year for 300mil a launchthen it wont be bad for what it is, but I don't see it.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16474678

>>16472823
Nigger sneed

Anonymous No. 16474682

>>16474673
How will trump and musk help sls? At the rate it's going artemis 2 won't launch before 2027 and that'll probably be uncrewed because of orions heat shield issues. Theres jist no way trump gets boots on the moon before his term is up if he sticks with sls and he can't get the funds to do something faster without canceling it.

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Anonymous No. 16474693

mike drop.

Anonymous No. 16474697

>>16474693
>elon hasn't inspired people

Anonymous No. 16474698

>>16474693
This billionaire Elon whining is to distract you from the fact that, having a non shit exec matters for the outcome, actually. It's the exact opposite of what they're shilling. How many stories of great workers getting fucked by bad exec decisions that ultimately doom the company?

Anonymous No. 16474702

>>16474616
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_10#Call_signs_and_mission_insignia
tl;dr: Apollo 10 was lower profile than 11, pun, Snoopy was already linked to the space program and everybody knew Peanuts

(funfact, the first French sat was named Astérix)

Anonymous No. 16474704

>>16473351
Uranium is created in supernovas which are a kind of solar power

Anonymous No. 16474706

Is Trump going to tire of Musk? I'm scared bros

Anonymous No. 16474707

>>16474706
I'm more worried that Starship will fail and we'll be stuck.

Anonymous No. 16474708

>>16474673
Boeing is desperate to divest from spaceflight altogether, is he paying attention at all? And SLS is killing itself. By the time it is even available and capable of doing Artemis 3 or 4, Starship will be matured

Anonymous No. 16474709

>>16474704
Solar is nuclear power with extra steps rather

Anonymous No. 16474714

>>16474712
>>16474712
>>16474712

Anonymous No. 16474743

>>16474698
>>16474693
The term Organizing Prinicple comes to mind but I seriously don't know where I've heard it before, sometimes you read something once and it lingers in your head, is that a term in use

Anonymous No. 16474748

>>16473762
Department of Education
Automaker subsidies
IRS

Anonymous No. 16474749

>>16474704
>>16473351
When nuclear fusion occurs, the benefit is that it releases energy to capture, what type of energy does it release?

Anonymous No. 16474750

>>16474707
>I'm more worried that Starship will fail and we'll be stuck
What are the concerns with starship being unable to maintain orbit? Or should that never be a priority, as that is rarely or never its purpose and intention

Anonymous No. 16474752

>>16474611
>>16474487
You don't understand how much SpaceX does to capture a certain part of the labor market.

Anonymous No. 16474755

>>16474678
oh lawd he said it
>>16474693
That's why the most competent young engineers are are streaming towards NASA, right?

Anonymous No. 16474758

>>16473836
It's difficult to tell sarcasm from genuine mental retardation online if only because in some forums there are many genuine retards. In the future please explicitly label your post as either trolling or retarded.

Anonymous No. 16474761

>>16473853
>use a meme rocket from a suborbital rocketry company
How many orbital flights does BO have?

Anonymous No. 16474762

>>16473878
There's no way that was random debris. It's moving about as fast as the astronaut.

Anonymous No. 16474779

>>16473952
If you're doing the same old shit as everyone else you can just reuse old designs, models and data. When you are doing something genuinely innovative you cannot.

Anonymous No. 16474789

>>16473891
DUDE PERFECT!

Anonymous No. 16474793

>>16474693
This is the kind of dumb stuff angry people say when they hate someone and need to deny their success.

Anonymous No. 16474798

>>16474068
he realized that he can use the attorney general to sue the agencies via chevron and get the feds to pay for it

Anonymous No. 16474841

>>16474514
>Musk has vowed to finance the campaigns of opponents in their districts
>this is a unprecedented mandate
lol

Anonymous No. 16474842

>>16474693
nothing gets accomplished without competent leadership

Anonymous No. 16474847

>>16474842

Oh yeah, who was the "competent leader" behind the Sistine Chapel, or the Mona Lisa, etc....?

If you need a "leader", that's because you're a follower ;)

Great men blaze their own trail. They don't play "Follow the Leader".

Enjoy your never ending Plebian existence!

Anonymous No. 16474851

>>16474847
Michelangelo? Da Vinci?
are you retarded on purpose
leadership doesn't mean the source of funding

Anonymous No. 16474914

>>16474001
>>16473999
Water is an alloy of metallic hydrogen and metallic oxygen

Anonymous No. 16474918

>>16474005
>NASA admin needs to be confirmed by senate
I have heard there's a plan to make them all recess appointments to get all the appointees in on day one.

Anonymous No. 16474923

>>16474918
the senate would need to go into recess for that to happen

Anonymous No. 16474937

>>16474923
>recess
Before or after gymnasium class?

Anonymous No. 16474939

>>16474114
Light gases

Anonymous No. 16474952

>>16474693
Flat out wrong. Mine came from SpaceX the company, not any of those Saturn era guys OR Musk. Musk is eh desu, I like him because hes pushign forward the agenda of single issue space voters like me.

Anonymous No. 16474957

>>16474937
if you don't know the technical details of the Senate's fucked up rules, don't try to comment on them