🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:09:31 UTC No. 16474712
spacex week edition
previous >>16472823
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:12:26 UTC No. 16474716
>>16474712
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll
Starlink
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:15:37 UTC No. 16474717
In light of recent events, I made a rather conservative estimate of the future of spess colonies
2025 - mars base(spacex), population 10000
2026 - phobos base(spacex), populaton 7000
2027 - ceres base(spacex), population 9000
2028 - jupiter orbital base(spacex), popilation 700
2029 - EVROPA base(spacex), population 12000
2030 - calisto base(spacex), population 8000
2031 - enceladus base(Spacex), population 15000
2032 - mars base(china), population ~1,6 billion
2033 - venus cloud base(spacex), population 7000
2034 - saturn ring base(spacex), population 4500
2035 - titan cuck base(spacex), population less than a dozen
2036 - uranus base(spacex), population 6900
2037 - neptune base(spacex), population 5500
2038 - first colony ship sent to proxima centauri b(spacex), population 150000
2039 - Pluto (spacex), population 13000
2040 - colony ship sent to ross 128b(spacex), population 370000
2041 - asteroid belt stations(china), population uncountable
2042 - colony ships sent to GJ 1061(spacex), population 1250000
2043 - mercury solar death ray (spacex), population classified
2044 - Eris cloning facility (spacex), population >100000000
2045 - agartha base(spacex), population 750000
2046 - Earth-X genocide wars
2047 - earth colony(X empire), population 0.7 billion
2048 - colony ships sent to andromeda galaxy via wormhole(X empire), population several billion
2049 - Sagittarius A* colony(X empire), population ~13 trillion
2050 - Mankind becomes a kardashev type 3 civilization(X empire), population ~70 quintillion
2051 - Moon base(NASA), population 0-10
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:16:12 UTC No. 16474720
>>16474716
>https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1mnxeAX
SpaceX now live
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:19:53 UTC No. 16474725
>>16474673
How will trump and musk help sls? At the rate it's going artemis 2 won't launch before 2027 and that'll probably be uncrewed because of orions heat shield issues. Theres jist no way trump gets boots on the moon before his term is up if he sticks with sls and he can't get the funds to do something faster without canceling it.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:20:10 UTC No. 16474726
so many launches
so many satellites
so few people in space
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:29:32 UTC No. 16474734
He can't keep getting away with it!
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:30:38 UTC No. 16474736
the rare daytime barge landing. cool to have a gap in the clouds to see how the first stage basically comes in sideways across the barge before angling back in again during the landing burn
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:35:46 UTC No. 16474741
>>16474712
>not The Great Elon Musk edition
Killy yourself idiot EDS shill
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:50:02 UTC No. 16474756
In KSP RSS the meta for fully reusable rockets is to have minimum possible lifting surfaces on the upper stage, but a lot more on the bosoter since parasitc mass doesnt matter as much on 1st stage and greater crossrange + lower terminal velocity means you use less fuel returning. Blue Origin seems to have taken this approach, makes me wonder why Superheavy has no aero surfaces beside the gridfins. It could do a glide return with much lower peak heating on the engines and less fuel used in boostback
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:59:17 UTC No. 16474764
>>16474712
This is the worst OP in awhile
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:01:23 UTC No. 16474765
>>16474746
Just in case the government ever needed to get a kiloton satellite to geo
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:02:26 UTC No. 16474768
>>16474764
malicious compliance from the early baker
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:04:36 UTC No. 16474771
>>16474725
why the massive glands?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:09:17 UTC No. 16474776
>>16474725
maybe they'll force orion to dock with dragon so they can safely return the astronauts
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:17:46 UTC No. 16474781
>>16474776
>orion
>safely
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:19:32 UTC No. 16474783
>>16474781
return the astronauts on dragon with orion returning home empty, just like they did with starliner
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:23:00 UTC No. 16474786
>>16474780
Anything Blue Origin is a joke and will remain so until they've successfully launched anything besides their carnival ride.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:26:35 UTC No. 16474787
reminder
>Multiple sources have confirmed that NASA is studying alternatives to the planned Artemis III landing of two astronauts on the Moon, nominally scheduled for September 2026
>Under one of the options, astronauts would launch into low-Earth orbit inside an Orion spacecraft and rendezvous there with a Starship vehicle, separately launched by SpaceX. During this mission, similar to Apollo 9, a precursor to the Apollo 11 lunar landing, the crew would validate the ability of Orion and Starship to dock and test habitability inside Starship. The crew would then return to Earth.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:29:24 UTC No. 16474788
>>16474756
My guesses: (1) aerodynamic stuff is generally more complicated than rockets and I'd imagine harder (though obviously not impossible) to automate, especially factoring in things like wind and the sloshing of propellant that aren't in KSP, (2) first stages with aerodynamic surfaces are costlier to manufacture. There's a lot to be said for keeping things simple and then optimizing the hardware
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:29:37 UTC No. 16474790
>>16474780
SOVL, unironically. New Glenn is the perfect fit. An oversized rocket for an overweight capsule.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:32:23 UTC No. 16474791
>>16474780
Tell me about the fletch why is it there.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:35:17 UTC No. 16474794
test
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:36:05 UTC No. 16474795
>>16474780
Honestly, its the right rocket for Artemis SLS replacement. Also, it absolves Elon and DOGE of favoritism accusations, since it would be handing the capsule launch of the astronauts to a direct rival. Although SpaceX still takes the glory, by landing so many HLS Starships on the Moon, it makes BO look funny in comparison.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:37:17 UTC No. 16474799
>>16474787
>astronauts would launch into low-Earth orbit inside an Orion spacecraft
Which spacecraft can put Orion into LEO?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:38:13 UTC No. 16474801
>>16474787
Why wasn't that the plan from the start?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:38:36 UTC No. 16474803
>>16474799
The bridenstack
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:39:37 UTC No. 16474804
>>16474801
no i think they were supposed to meet up at gateway
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:39:37 UTC No. 16474805
>>16474787
If you're launching Orion then might as well go to the moon with it, it's retarded launching that incredibly expensive vehicle to LEO. Just use Dragon.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:41:09 UTC No. 16474806
fuck you
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:41:18 UTC No. 16474807
>>16474799
Vulcan has the diameter and capacity for an LEO launch
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:47:08 UTC No. 16474812
Hey guys I'm compiling some videos that I think will ultimately be significant in the history of spaceflight, and I'm having trouble finding one. I'm pretty sure it's a rally, and Trump says something like
>and I said EE LAN, can you get us to Mars?
and everyone cheers. There's like 1.5 work year's worth of rally footage out there (3000+ hours) so I haven't had any luck. Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:52:04 UTC No. 16474821
>>16474812
It occurred more than once, but one of them he just paused, mumbled and insecurely said, I think we can.
Because Trump made it a hard deadline with boots on Mars, he knows is questionable and maybe undoable timeline that would result in accidental deaths due to rushing.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:53:03 UTC No. 16474823
>>16474809
sex with anime rocket girls
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:54:24 UTC No. 16474824
>>16474812
I'm not sure Trump is gonna like being in the Shadow of Elon bros...
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:55:43 UTC No. 16474826
>>16474820
Jeff Bezos cant meme
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:56:52 UTC No. 16474828
>>16474826
That makes two tycoons.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:57:49 UTC No. 16474830
>>16474717
You forgot to add +100 years.
This is impossible to achieve in that time frame. If you think that, then your brain is rotten from too much sci-fi slop.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:58:17 UTC No. 16474831
>>16474828
Yes, Zuckerberg and Bezos both cant meme.
Add Bill Gates to the list too
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:02:03 UTC No. 16474834
>>16474804
I mean, docking in LEO should be the original plan. HLS is still an unproven vehicle, and they wanted to do a manned Moon landing right away.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:04:01 UTC No. 16474836
>>16474812
have you used chatgpt yet? My google skills are really good, but it sometimes saves me time when I'm trying to find some obscure name or facts.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:08:22 UTC No. 16474839
>>16474834
The whole Artemis plan is retarded. 2024 was a completely fake date for artemis 3 too. Seemed like NASA was trying to copy Musks style in that regard. The lunar landing will happen in 2028, which is what NASA originally expected. No doubt there will be at least 1 HLS mission with crew but no Lunar landing along the way
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:11:10 UTC No. 16474840
>>16474839
>The lunar landing will happen in 2028
I'm extremely skeptical of this due to nasas procrastination on the heatshield problem. I don't expect artemis 2 before 2027. Maybe if we're lucky we get artemis 3 in 2030.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:12:07 UTC No. 16474843
>>16474809
what is tha... BY GOD NEW GLENN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:13:33 UTC No. 16474845
>>16474809
>what is tha... BY GOD NEW GLENN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:13:35 UTC No. 16474846
>>16474725
they won't, SLS is dead (== good)
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:16:24 UTC No. 16474852
>>16474845
At least SLS is real
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:22:29 UTC No. 16474854
>>16474297
it's cold at night because the earth's emitted power is high, and the felt temperature on the surface is dominated by convective effects, not radiative
>>16474596
the serious names were a mandate because 10 named their shit snoopy and charlie brown and NASA decided that was embarrassing
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:25:45 UTC No. 16474856
>>16474723
Boca Chica is so beautiful this time of year
>>16474756
tanks are heavier and wings are lighter in KSP than in reality
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:26:29 UTC No. 16474858
>>16474780
3 stage new glenn is sex
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:35:07 UTC No. 16474861
>>16474812
I hope Elon keep a low profile, he's getting too close to the sun, which is bad.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:36:10 UTC No. 16474862
>>16474861
What happens if Elon gets too close to the sun, so to speak?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:37:23 UTC No. 16474863
>>16474862
His wings melt and he falls into the ocean
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:40:04 UTC No. 16474866
>>16474862
Killed by the CIA. Certain people do not want Mars to happen. The only possible threat to America is a second America with more white people and less regulation, 86 million miles out of nuking range
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:49:12 UTC No. 16474876
>>16474809
This was from when SN9 flew and crashed right around the time SLS fouled up its first long duration engine test, iirc
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:50:50 UTC No. 16474879
>>16474717
Lmao even a manned mars mission in your lifetime is not guaranteed
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:52:08 UTC No. 16474881
>>16474879
Now that trump is president it is, short of him dying in a freak car accident tomorrow or something.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:55:39 UTC No. 16474884
>>16474876
here
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:11:09 UTC No. 16474901
>>16474897
7m diameter
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:12:44 UTC No. 16474902
>>16474897
>hydromeme
Why?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:20:55 UTC No. 16474903
>>16474897
Have these guys ever successfully launched a rocket?
I mean even BO has a successful liquid propelled rocket (and billions of dollars). What do these guys have?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:25:13 UTC No. 16474910
>>16474903
RFA-1 is supposed to be launching from SaxaVord, so they've been crawling through the same regulatory hell that finished over Virgin Orbit. Blowing up a first stage during testing back in August hasn't helped them any
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:27:39 UTC No. 16474913
>>16474836
Alright I asked it and it made something up to agree with me
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:28:37 UTC No. 16474915
>>16474903
>What do these guys have?
Static fired S2 and a uh, partially static fired S1 that blew up when they tried to fully static fire it.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:31:49 UTC No. 16474917
>>16474717
> 2025 - mars base(spacex), population 10000
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:35:57 UTC No. 16474925
>>16474756
propellant is cheap and wings are expensive, efficiency doesn't matter if it costs more, & higher peak heating isn't an issue that costs less to solve with wings vs a bit of TPS.
>>16474780
An improvement of $3 billion vs SLS, now just replace the $1 billion thing on top.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:37:46 UTC No. 16474927
What are they even going to try with Flight 6? Same shit or are they going to at least try a reignite? Also, when the fuck are we gonna see a Starship 2.0 prototype in flight?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:38:08 UTC No. 16474928
>>16474917
you must be a member of mensa
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:39:38 UTC No. 16474929
>>16474917
Let him cook
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:41:21 UTC No. 16474931
>>16474928
Mensa these balls
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:42:21 UTC No. 16474932
>>16474931
fuckin got him lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:43:54 UTC No. 16474933
>>16474927
the launch profile is mostly similar but they will test a raptor relight during the coast phase, different more aggressive re-entry profile and less tiles on the ship, a bit different booster landing procedure (though probably looks similar to us)
block 2 starship is going to be on flight 7
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:56:53 UTC No. 16474944
I don’t understand why BO is jumping from non-orbital flight to a heavy lift vehicle with a reusable first stage. I don’t think they have a chance in hell of pulling this off. From what I understand BO has been hemorrhaging talent to SpaceX for a long time
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:58:38 UTC No. 16474948
>>16474944
I don’t think they’ll get reuse on the first try like they want, but I don’t see any reason the rocket won’t work. Both stage engines are flight proven.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:03:58 UTC No. 16474954
>>16474910
You have any insight onto what exactly the brits are demanding of them to launch?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:07:18 UTC No. 16474958
>>16474949
is the place.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:07:54 UTC No. 16474961
>>16474944
It's actually that easy in rocketry.
>I don’t think they have a chance in hell of pulling this off.
90% they will, they have a bit of experience with NS.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:08:46 UTC No. 16474962
>>16474949
Space Shuttle is ther most beautiful craft ever built. Physical perfection. Perfect form. Starship does not come close.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:12:29 UTC No. 16474964
>>16474962
Space Shuttle was powered by kino alone
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:18:03 UTC No. 16474968
>>16474965
stickin my fist in your ass while you do it ;)
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:19:21 UTC No. 16474972
>>16474897
>https://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs
>https://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs
I prefer it over the ArianeGroup proposal
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:20:50 UTC No. 16474977
>>16474965
>I'm over here stroking my dick I got A20130236012 on my dick right now. I'm just stroking my shit I'm horny as fuck man I'm a freak man like for real
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:25:02 UTC No. 16474981
RAHHH BOOSTER IS ON THE LAUNCHPAD WE ARE GOING
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:26:51 UTC No. 16474984
>>16474982
It's easier to make money elsewhere and buy your mission.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:27:53 UTC No. 16474985
>>16474984
I want my own rocket.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:29:28 UTC No. 16474988
>>16474985
There's too many launchers already. Just buy a Starship trip
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:30:14 UTC No. 16474989
>>16474799
>Which spacecraft can put Orion into LEO?
Falcon Heavy, 6 SRB Vulcan and New Glenn all have the performance to.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:30:29 UTC No. 16474990
>>16474949
>space shuttle
ew
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:33:47 UTC No. 16474992
>>16474988
Can you just buy a Starship wholesale? I want to own the upper stage and pay SpaceX to launch it (and me) into LEO, then pay for refueling flights so I can take my Starship wherever the fuck I please.
>nooo you can't go to Saturn
What if I can?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:45:18 UTC No. 16474997
>>16474992
This will be done in the future. Planes were originally basically only for the inventors in the field, but now anyone can get a small plane like a Cessna and fly. Same with cars, will just be a bit before they allow it. I would think that this happens first on Mars than anywhere else due to them not having to follow US regulation of Trump gives Elon the go ahead to be a self managing colony as its completely owned by SpaceX.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:45:57 UTC No. 16474998
>>16474992
With any luck starship and its “competitors” will be the last generation of rockets that functions under the “launch service provider” model. Hopefully future generations will function more like airlines/airline manufacturers. Airbus doesn’t sell rides on their planes, they sell their planes to other companies who operate them.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:47:23 UTC No. 16475000
>>16474992
I mean you definitely aren't piloting a Starship so you'd probably pay them to manage the entire travel side of things. If Starship works as planned I don't see why someone with $20 million in 2050 can't just fill the ship with five years of life support/food/water and head to Saturn. Might need to double or triple that cost if you want to come back though.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:49:47 UTC No. 16475003
Could a Superheavy with no Starship on top get to LEO? Could you refill an entire stack in space, expend the entire booster to accelerate, and use a fully filled Starship to decelerate? How quickly would that get you to Mars?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:55:27 UTC No. 16475004
>>16474992
kek, I would do the same if I had the money, anon. Buy a Starship, fill it up, and then make a one-way trip to Eris/Dysnomia.
>nooo, you have to human rate it first!
just sign a waiver.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:56:38 UTC No. 16475005
You would be surprised by the amount of people that would voluntarily go on a 1 way trip to Mars.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:59:48 UTC No. 16475008
>>16475005
yeah have fun with your mars base populated exclusively by suicidally depressed loners
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:01:01 UTC No. 16475009
>>16475008
Mars will cure depression. You don't think so and you're wrong.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:05:25 UTC No. 16475013
>>16475003
It's hard to say without exact weight and performance numbers, but some people (redditors) have looked into the idea and the answer seems like a tentative yes. Having an extra ~9km/s to work with would allow you to use significantly faster trajectories to Mars, although you might run into some issues if the standard aerobreaking profile exceeds what Starship is capable of and you start needing to use retropropulsion to survive Martian entry
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:07:55 UTC No. 16475014
>>16475013
>superheavy is a smallsat SSTO
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:13:31 UTC No. 16475016
>>16475014
Technically yes. Most people assume that an SSTO has enough fuel to land after it gets to orbit, but if you ignore that part you could probably deliver some Electron-sized payloads
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:14:13 UTC No. 16475017
>>16475003
>>16475013
>>16475014
It's definitely not an SSTO. Stop sucking off SpaceX.
Original Interplanetary Transport System was meant to be an SSTO but now neither are capable.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:15:04 UTC No. 16475018
>>16475003
>refilling an entire super heavy + starship stack in LEO
enceladus in 4 months here we go
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:18:09 UTC No. 16475021
>>16475017
I’ll concede it being an SSTO but I’m not going to stop slobbering on spacex’s juicy cock.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:22:05 UTC No. 16475026
>>16475018
>enceladus in 4 months here we go
Death to slow drifts, let's fucking GO
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:23:10 UTC No. 16475028
ArianeGroup really seems to hate the concept of a methalox upper-stage. Their preference is to first develop the disposable hydromeme upper-stage (left), and maybe do the methalox reusable upper (right) sometime later
And I do mean HATE, their proposal document was full of passive aggressive snark
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:26:15 UTC No. 16475030
>>16474824
Are these doom posts genuine? You aren't really this dumb, right? You give off non American citizen vibes
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:27:49 UTC No. 16475031
>>16475030
Were you born in 2008?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:29:49 UTC No. 16475033
>>16475028
>Initially propose large 2xMethalox reusable stages (also wtf is that S2/S1 ratio... That SUSIEship should be twice longer)
>It has shit performances to higher orbit therefore we'll use hydrolox expendable stages
???? have they heard of refuelling or kick stages?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:31:09 UTC No. 16475034
>>16475003
>Could a Superheavy with no Starship on top get to LEO?
The dV is like 8, you need 9, so just shy. You could however, God forgive me, put a superheavy on top of another superheavy
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:31:18 UTC No. 16475035
>>16475031
Answer my question first, then I'll answer yours.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:31:59 UTC No. 16475036
>>16474717
lol
lmao
rofl
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:34:26 UTC No. 16475038
>>16475018
>enceladus in 4 months here we go
a quick flyby then off to interstellar space since you can't brake
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:35:32 UTC No. 16475039
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:36:07 UTC No. 16475041
>>16475036
Unironically SpaceX could so some cool shit for the 2028 olympic games. At least carrying the flame in orbit. Maybe cislunar space too?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:42:07 UTC No. 16475047
>>16475041
>carry the flame to orbit
>it goes out
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:43:00 UTC No. 16475049
>>16475028
They already have hydrolox infrastructure at Kourou so it's not that big of a deal as for SpaceX
Additionally, they put huge amounts of cash, time and effort into developing hydrogen engines (and they are relatively decent ones at that).
>full of passive aggressive snark
French being French
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:46:34 UTC No. 16475050
>>16475047
Do you think engineering a torch that works in zero g would be a difficult task?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:47:16 UTC No. 16475051
>>16474902
Anything hydrogen gets fat cheques from European governments because "green" even though it's the most wasteful way of storing energy we've come up with.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:49:35 UTC No. 16475054
>>16475050
It depends what you mean.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:53:54 UTC No. 16475056
>>16475041
>>16475050
We can invent a space torch.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:54:22 UTC No. 16475058
>>16475054
>just fill your hab with rocket exhaust bro
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:54:49 UTC No. 16475060
>>16475051
There are people in europe who have wet dreams of repurposing the entire gas pipeline network of the EU to distribute hydrogen and heat homes&power the entire EU industry on it.
How they are going to produce that much hydrogen and how they are going to pump hydrogen, that is known to leak like a sieve trough pretty much anything, in those pipelines is also a mystery.
But greenfags are that way, close down the nuclear plants first, think about how to replace the power production later, we all can see how well that went for germany.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:56:45 UTC No. 16475062
>>16475060
If you add a carbon atom to every four hydrogen atoms it gets way easier to store and use
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:00:17 UTC No. 16475064
fuck you
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:01:01 UTC No. 16475065
Space is an NPC getto.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:01:44 UTC No. 16475066
>>16475028
Arianespace isn't going to promote methalox upper stage engines when they make hydrolox ones.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:03:06 UTC No. 16475069
>>16475058
Just roll down the windows a crack to air it out.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:03:37 UTC No. 16475070
>>16475060
The objective of the exercise is not to deliver anything at all, only vague promises. Vague promises guarantee government subsidies, once subsidies are in it's suddenly found "not economically viable" and everyone working on the project go somewhere else for more government subsidies.
You see it with on and off shore wind power, battery factories and endgame for now - hydrogen.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:04:37 UTC No. 16475071
>>16475062
Transforming that methane into hydrogen, which incidentally is the most efficient way of producing hydrogen wastes 70% of the energy stored in the methane.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:04:40 UTC No. 16475072
>>16475068
Hey yeah, how the hell would she know yet?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:05:59 UTC No. 16475078
>>16475076
ISS 2.0 Cuckshed Boogaloo.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:06:31 UTC No. 16475080
>>16475076
MY PENIS
IN THE TUBE
SEX NOW
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:17:04 UTC No. 16475084
>>16475076
Probably just ISS 2 without the russians
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:19:30 UTC No. 16475088
>>16475076
top 10 most expensive pictures
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:19:43 UTC No. 16475089
>>16475084
so just an american space station
ASS?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:21:24 UTC No. 16475091
>>16475089
if it was our fourth station it could've been called 4ASS...
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:22:33 UTC No. 16475093
>>16475089
Well the euros will be there too
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:28:32 UTC No. 16475103
>>16474717
>2032 - mars base(china), population ~1,6 billion
only possible if china sends me and 50 women by 2030
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:28:43 UTC No. 16475104
>>16475100
go play elite dangerous in VR
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:31:46 UTC No. 16475107
>>16475072
They have a spring contraption for measuring mass. The SLAMMD.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:34:03 UTC No. 16475111
>>16475107
>Sunni got SLAMMD in space
Sounds messy
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:36:25 UTC No. 16475112
>>16475068
fucking kek
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:40:58 UTC No. 16475116
>>16474962
Energia was the most beautiful lift system ever built.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:42:16 UTC No. 16475119
When are they going to start sending up Lunarlink and Marslink satellites?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:43:17 UTC No. 16475120
>>16475116
STS looked better. Between the orange, the aspect ratios of the srbs, and the design of the orbiter itself.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:44:32 UTC No. 16475123
>>16475100
I love them, too. Here's one I made for Sedna some time ago.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:44:33 UTC No. 16475124
>>16475119
marslink wont happen because by the time it's ready, the colony will be up and running and there wont be a need for nasa to send unmanned missions to mars anymore
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:45:43 UTC No. 16475126
>>16475123
That just looks like our moon with the red turned up.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:45:53 UTC No. 16475127
>>16475120
>the aspect ratios of the srbs
That's want entirely ruined it, and the SLS as a consequance, aesthetically. The thin ass SRB against that massive, thick orange tank looks fucking awful.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:45:56 UTC No. 16475128
>>16475047
Dirty little secret: the flame on the torch during the rely often gets blown out. They keep a backup of the flame in a lantern which is used to light the torch again the next morning but the torch that is blown out is just re-lit with a lighter.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:46:38 UTC No. 16475129
>>16474820
Pale blue dot, is orgin
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:48:37 UTC No. 16475130
>>16475107
She didn't say her mass was unchanged, she said she weights the same as when she arrived.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:49:11 UTC No. 16475131
>>16475116
Think you'll find N1 was the best looking rocket ever.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:49:51 UTC No. 16475132
>>16475124
The Martians themselves will need Marslink way more than rovers
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:49:57 UTC No. 16475133
>>16475130
Well I guess that’s true no matter how much they starve her
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:50:05 UTC No. 16475134
>>16475126
well yeah, that's more or less what I did lol. Here you have one from Venus, which I found on this general. Same vibe.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:51:30 UTC No. 16475136
>>16475132
would they? if everyone is located in a single settlement then it seems like the communications would be fine with just your regular wifi, cell, and other terrestrial radio
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:51:36 UTC No. 16475137
>>16475127
>-z,+z,-y,+y
>Not calling it Port, Starboard, Aft and Bow
shameful display
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:51:57 UTC No. 16475138
>>16475131
it’s so whimsical
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:52:03 UTC No. 16475139
>>16475134
Now it's Io's turn!
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:52:16 UTC No. 16475140
>>16475136
But how would they post on /sfg/?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:52:28 UTC No. 16475142
>>16475123
>>16475134
Thanks for sharing. The cold, icy landscapes are my favourite because they remind me of a dream I had when I was a kid.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:52:52 UTC No. 16475143
>>16475116
Energia was nothing special and Buran lacked the Shuttle perfection. It was jsut a faker, didnt even have the phatt ass of shuttle
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:53:54 UTC No. 16475145
>>16475143
Objectively better than the Shuttle.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:54:04 UTC No. 16475146
>>16474854
Leo propellant depot, how rare are largish objects in orbit hit by debris?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:54:11 UTC No. 16475147
>>16475140
probably a different communications architecture
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:55:03 UTC No. 16475148
>>16475139
Europa by the same artist.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:55:23 UTC No. 16475150
>>16475146
in LEO you can simply track all objects large enough to hurt you and shield against everything smaller with whipple shields
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:57:17 UTC No. 16475153
>>16475136
There's definitely going to be very remote specialised outposts/mines/factories that will need a continuous comm link like oil platforms on Earth. Not to mention the explosion of robotic workers/rovers when they can be live controlled by some guy in a chair on mars.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:59:14 UTC No. 16475157
>>16475139
Io, Io, were off to kill Io
with a bucket and spade and a hand grenade Io! Io, Io, Io!
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:03:45 UTC No. 16475162
>>16475142
>cold, icy landscapes are my favourite
Same. It feels as though you are so far away from everything you've ever known. Utter radio silence, tinnitus embraces you, only your thoughts are to be acknowledged. Nothing matters here, for all problems ceased to be. Were you to pass away, not a single soul would ever know. You and the landscape share no border, it all conflated into one. Solitude is your companion.
>a dream I had when I was a kid
Oh, do tell us.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:07:51 UTC No. 16475169
>>16475127
You will really hate SLS with the EUS upper stage then.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:11:00 UTC No. 16475173
>>16475169
Good thing it will never be built lmao.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:12:46 UTC No. 16475175
>>16475165
I still don't know what Trump's plan for space is
All I've gotten is some vague notion of deregulation for spacex
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:14:49 UTC No. 16475177
>>16475041
The torch was carried several time to orbit, though it wasn't lit up, because space agencies hate fun.
The real challenge would be to make it part of the relay, ie, keep it burning during launch, orbit, then deorbit.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:15:23 UTC No. 16475178
>>16474780
the SLS of the future
something stupidly expensive which only exists to make SpaceX look better
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:15:52 UTC No. 16475180
>>16475175
so far its vague but we've seen
>SLS canceled
>desire to get artemis 2 to the moon before his term is up
>desire to get starship to mars before his term is up
>expanded space force
>brilliant pebbles 2.0
some speculate that he'll push to get space command moved to huntsville alabama too
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:16:02 UTC No. 16475181
>>16475136
To connect to Earth
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:17:09 UTC No. 16475184
>>16475180
oh yeah and
>desire to get artemis 3 on the moon before his term is up
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:18:50 UTC No. 16475186
>>16475184
Isn't this contradictory with cancelling SLS?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:19:42 UTC No. 16475187
>>16475186
Only if you require Artemis to use SLS. You don't HAVE to use the orange rogget at all if you don't want to, why should you if the alternatives are orders of magnitude cheaper?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:19:46 UTC No. 16475188
>>16475175
Probably because you never looked.
https://spacenews.com/gop-platform-
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:20:04 UTC No. 16475189
>>16475166
Too many engines. No way a vehicle with that many engines can ever be made reliable.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:25:24 UTC No. 16475191
>>16475187
Realistically, Could starship become crew rated for moon to earth reentry in 4 years?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:25:27 UTC No. 16475192
>>16475188
>As recently as the early 2000s, it cost nearly $10,000 to put one kilogram into low-Earth orbit. By 2015, SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket could do it for $2,720. Today, launching the same payload costs as low as $1,500. With intense market competition and SpaceX’s huge new Starship rocket, we foresee pricing below $1,000 by the end of the decade. The last time we saw such a combination of falling prices and improved performance, it was in the integrated circuits that drove the personal computing and internet revolutions. Moore’s Law sustained global U.S. technological and economic dominance for decades. The Republican platform embraces the possibility of a similar boom in space.
we gaan
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:26:55 UTC No. 16475193
>>16475189
It turns out having your engines in multiples of 9 gives the most reliability.
https://youtu.be/ki5UBcXOIUs?si=xXI
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:27:06 UTC No. 16475194
>>16475188
>Greg Autry is the author of Red Moon Rising: How America Will be China on The Final Frontier.
>be
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:27:14 UTC No. 16475196
>>16475191
Why bot just use Orion but transfer sooner? Not dragging it to nrho means the heat shield as it is isn’t a problem and drops the requirements for a rocket that carries it by a lot.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:28:46 UTC No. 16475197
>>16474717
>2025 - mars base(spacex), population 10000
low level b8
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:36:06 UTC No. 16475203
>>16474812
I think that's the Pennsylvania rally. There haven't been too many where ELAN appears with Trump
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:42:43 UTC No. 16475216
>>16475203
I don't know for sure that Elon was that deep in it yet
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:47:36 UTC No. 16475224
>>16475189
>he doesn't know
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:01:26 UTC No. 16475231
>>16475166
>no engine-out redundancy in the second stage
FOOLS
>>16475189
GREATER FOOL
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:02:45 UTC No. 16475232
>>16475193
>multiples of 9
That's only according to his model. If you can have engine-out redundancy with 8 engines or a minimum of 10 engines, then the rest of the numbers are difference. Eager uses 9 in his model because that's what Falcon 9 has.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:04:46 UTC No. 16475233
>>16474861
Elon is going to buy the Sun.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:07:12 UTC No. 16475234
>>16475233
No fair, I was gonna buy that
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:50:30 UTC No. 16475253
>>16475252
sovl. I yearn for the reality where SpaceX never got off the ground.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:58:46 UTC No. 16475260
>>16475258
What’s so funny?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:59:07 UTC No. 16475261
>>16475260
Why dont you tell me Jeff?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:59:37 UTC No. 16475262
>>16475148
ice dragon?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:05:06 UTC No. 16475264
>>16475258
Love this stuff. Makes it so easy to argue they aren't a monopoly while they rake in $30b/y
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:05:34 UTC No. 16475266
https://x.com/GoToImpulse/status/18
>Introducing Deneb, a powerhouse hydrocarbon engine designed for unmatched performance.
>Deneb's ox-rich staged combustion cycle combined with a high area ratio expansion nozzle will deliver 15,000 pounds of thrust — setting it up to be one of the highest-performing liquid oxygen/liquid methane engines ever flown, per its creator, Tom Mueller (@lrocket).
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:08:32 UTC No. 16475268
>>16475266
Looks pretty tidy. Is it, perhaps, only “partially assembled”?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:09:55 UTC No. 16475271
>>16475268
Engines are getting simpler, I like this trend. Maybe eventually they'll be simple enough for a retard like me to figure out.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:11:27 UTC No. 16475272
>>16475258
big if true. another L for spaceX and the muskites.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:16:24 UTC No. 16475279
One of the experiments needed to be done on Moon and Mars is somehow get massive (how big?) glass or plastic, see through and or not, terrariums that are hooked with some of the proposed air and water production and filtration systems, climate control, plants, soils, fruits, vegetables, insects, worms, micro organisms, pools with water life, reptiles and small animals, with
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:25:57 UTC No. 16475285
>>16475232
>Eager uses 9 in his model because that's what Falcon 9 has.
Did you even watch the video?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:27:32 UTC No. 16475286
>>16475258
Blue and another unnamed launch provider.
>>16475260
Probably how AST is getting shit on in court trying to lawfare SpaceX.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:28:10 UTC No. 16475287
>>16475197
>he thinks I'm joking
>he doesn't know about the secret bi-yearly mars transfer maneuver
kek what an imbecile
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:30:09 UTC No. 16475290
>>16475287
It was a stupid thing to post because the mars base already has a population higher than that. It would be like saying I expect the US to have at least 300 million people by 2025
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:32:00 UTC No. 16475291
>>16474897
So they want to merge a F9 first stage with a NG first stage... as a second stage.... with hydrolox....
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:40:20 UTC No. 16475298
>>16475279
I bet cowgirl sex is mindblowing in lunar gravity
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:41:32 UTC No. 16475299
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/18
Airbus (government owned European defense company) says SpaceX would not pass antitrust in Europe
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:41:36 UTC No. 16475300
>>16475271
I think that hotter engines are able to direct more of the plasma in a narrower cone, thus requiring less cooling of the engine and funnel.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:42:37 UTC No. 16475302
>>16475298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77-
with compliments
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:46:43 UTC No. 16475307
>>16475299
America choose unequal sharing of blessings. Europe choose equal sharing of miseries.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:52:00 UTC No. 16475311
>>16475307
Let that sink in. Elon bros just keep winning, do we need to topple their governments too?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:53:12 UTC No. 16475312
https://spacenews.com/chinese-offic
China extending olive branch to US space exploration
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:53:51 UTC No. 16475313
>>16475312
Why didn't they offer this a month ago?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:54:36 UTC No. 16475314
>>16475313
New admin = new chance.
Biden door was closed, so they had no chance.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:55:55 UTC No. 16475315
>>16475314
And further its likely Trump's doors are also closed, but you dont know that if you dont try. It could possibly lead to some greater deal with Taiwan de-escalation, but I doubt it, still even if its 1%, its still a c hance
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:56:45 UTC No. 16475316
>>16475312
the answer is NO, but you can do some of the tedious manufacturing bits if you so like. as long as its really cheap
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:58:43 UTC No. 16475319
>>16475302
It was extremely, extremely, extremely dumb to use hair spray on this photoshoot.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:59:22 UTC No. 16475321
>>16475312
We should give china our weapons secrets.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:01:05 UTC No. 16475323
>>16475125
starship looks more natural with less side tiles desu
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:01:41 UTC No. 16475324
>>16475314
>New admin = new chance.
Trump is super hawkish towards China while Biden was happy to let them expand their influence
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:02:40 UTC No. 16475325
>>16475312
>be a "developing nation" that still recieves billions in aid every year from the west, but at the same time has a spaceprogram and the second largest militairy force in the world.
>be in a tradewar with the US&EU
>use the cartels to flood america with fentanyl
>have army of spies who are stealing US&EU tech so they can reverse engineer it.
>openly be hostile to a nation that produces most of the semiconducters of the world.
>etc....
>ask to join the international space program.
Wow, these guys should join, dont see any problem here.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:05:18 UTC No. 16475329
>>16475324
Biden has slanty eyes himself, those eyebrows creep me right the fuck out, especially in directional lighting
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:06:43 UTC No. 16475331
>>16475324
just simply not true
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:09:36 UTC No. 16475334
>>16475324
Hawkish just means more willing to leverage a trade deal properly. Its better than the stormy waves situation we have today while the president ignores the precarious situation as if nothing is happening due to his dementia. No president in the US will start a war with China, only a delusional would think that is the case here. So hawkishness is just leverage in this case, the potential for change. Trump wants something.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:10:44 UTC No. 16475337
>>16475325
JFK suggested cooperation with the Soviets on a manned lunar mission.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:14:57 UTC No. 16475343
>>16475327
Both Faury and the xigger are right. There is nothing of value in europe.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:16:48 UTC No. 16475345
>>16475337
JFK suggested a lot of things that got him killed by the CIA.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:17:55 UTC No. 16475348
>>16475266
I can't keep track of all the different fuels: qrd on different fuel combos and their advantages and disadvantages?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:20:51 UTC No. 16475352
>>16475345
Trump is restructuring CIA. He has a target on his back. So does Musk right now.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:21:42 UTC No. 16475354
>>16475279
>glass or plastic
Or whatever habitat/base materials planned to be used actually, I just thought terrariums are usually glass and to see in but now I see there's no need for that, mini version of the materials people may someday being using, and set up many live feed cameras inside
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:24:15 UTC No. 16475359
>>16475352
Trump is going to leave the CIA alone, and trump will not release the JFK files.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:25:15 UTC No. 16475362
>>16475348
>hydrazine
>kerolox
>hydrolox
>methalox
4 options, exceedingly complex and risky
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:30:25 UTC No. 16475371
>>16475122
>pathetic
>>pathetic
>>>pathetic
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:32:05 UTC No. 16475374
>>16475253
I'd kind of like the reality where BO got off the ground already.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:33:40 UTC No. 16475378
>>16475299
Airbus is not government owned
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:34:58 UTC No. 16475379
>>16475279
>>16475354
It was already tried and it failed spectacularly. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bio
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:35:32 UTC No. 16475382
>>16475348
>>16475362
and a bunch of other fun fuels
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:37:49 UTC No. 16475385
>>16475327
>>16475299
Euros are so dumb omg
>>16475033
ESA scaled SUSIE down in this infographic? kek
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:38:28 UTC No. 16475386
>>16475378
>Directly
11% French
11% German
5% Spanish
And further many other shares are probably partially owned by these as well through partial ownerships
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:40:43 UTC No. 16475388
>>16475122
>>16475371
someone needs to draw this pic with anime girls
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:45:43 UTC No. 16475393
>>16475379
Yeah that was a while ago, people here talk seriously and non chalantly about oxygen and water production in Moon and Mars habitat like it's walk in the park in the next few years. Put those water, air, climate systems, (food) on a scaled down habitat, with plants, ponds life, insects, reptiles, micro organisms, small mamals, and hook live video feeds all over it, and sensors etc. By this time next year at least 3 of these should be on the moon, year and a half or 2 years if needed. What is timeline for people on moon? How is robotics and 3d printing, and modular habitat air tight construct ability? Where are the moon landing, and these terrarium location candidates, what's to consider, temperature shielding, stabilizing it to ground, solar panels all on the outside.
Also there should be a large tight knit very tight knit cage fenced off area, where a bunch of soil and plants and insects and micro organisms are filled up in, with tiny tiny hole maybe 1 or 2, access to moon vacuum, just to see what would happen?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:56:35 UTC No. 16475412
Dude builds propane/oxygen pulse detonation engine, claims 500+ isp
https://youtu.be/RVETCyR-CoM?t=1758
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:57:46 UTC No. 16475415
Reddit says it's unlikely for the launch to be on Monday.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:03:14 UTC No. 16475424
>>16475415
Just take you estrogen on time, and Reddit will be okay
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:11:15 UTC No. 16475433
>>16475393
wut is blud waffling about :skull:
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:11:23 UTC No. 16475434
>>16475415
Why would I care what reddit thinks? I'm not on reddit, I'm on 4chan, I care what 4chan thinks not reddit. If I wanted to hear what those losers thought I'd go there myself.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:14:47 UTC No. 16475438
>>16475434
those were simpler times, back beforeanyone hknew what a piping plover was, back when the environmentlist FUD was about how grasshopper was disturbing cows
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:20:30 UTC No. 16475441
>>16475438
does anyone have the picture of the plover with superheavy in the background?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:31:44 UTC No. 16475452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mro
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:32:26 UTC No. 16475453
>>16475258
Jeff's Budget (getting paid for testing OMG WE'RE LIKE SPACEX!!!) Launches.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:36:52 UTC No. 16475457
>>16475258
When do the astroonomers start complaining about them blocking out stars?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:37:01 UTC No. 16475459
>>16475434
>the cows are confused
haha
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:37:43 UTC No. 16475460
>>16474717
Most pessimistic SpaceX fan
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:37:47 UTC No. 16475461
>>16475433
One of the cooler space experiments I could think of, and would be surprised if many wouldn't agree
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:46:20 UTC No. 16475469
>>16474780
I don't hate it. Does it have enough DeltaV to yeet Orion into NRHO or whatever Lunar orbit they wanna put Gateway in now?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:51:09 UTC No. 16475473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_8
nah what the hell bruh :skull:
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:52:23 UTC No. 16475475
Red White and Steel
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:54:10 UTC No. 16475477
fuck you
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:54:43 UTC No. 16475478
>>16475393
Water/air on Mars is basically solved as a technology problem, and any volume made habitable for people will also support your creepy crawlies. I'm not sure what there is to learn from what you describe
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:55:16 UTC No. 16475479
you fuck
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:55:32 UTC No. 16475480
>>16475474
Vertical red and white bars.
The sun confirmed original 13 colonies fan.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:55:46 UTC No. 16475481
>>16475415
Reddit says communism is great
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:56:17 UTC No. 16475482
fou yuck
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:56:23 UTC No. 16475483
>>16475480
where is the blue rectangle with the stars in it then? jackass.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:57:16 UTC No. 16475486
>>16475483
retarded gorilla nigger.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:01:34 UTC No. 16475489
>>16475487
What a gay looking launch complex. Still can't beleive this washed up company never delivered the falcon 5 family. What's the point?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:03:58 UTC No. 16475490
>>16475487
How big will Starbase get?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:07:06 UTC No. 16475492
>>16475490
It will begin growing exponentially
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:08:05 UTC No. 16475493
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:11:39 UTC No. 16475495
>>16475490
>>16475492
Its trapped between SPI and Mexico, it can grow a bit more, but I think 4 towers is about the max.
Only one orbital inclination is available from there, which sucks. And its not a friendly site for just manufacture and export. Its R&D with some launch capability too, but SpaceX needs not only Florida but also some willing partners (Australia, please?)
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:15:01 UTC No. 16475499
>>16475495
how the fuck are they suppsoed to get ships to australia jackass?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:15:08 UTC No. 16475500
>>16475495
When the United States invades Mexico to end the cartels, Elon will be awarded some additional formerly Mexican land adjacent to Starbase which he can expand into.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:17:13 UTC No. 16475502
>>16475499
Fly them there
>inb4 E2E is a meme
"NO!"
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:18:23 UTC No. 16475505
>>16475502
how about the boosters incel?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:23:18 UTC No. 16475509
>>16475502
dont fuk with me btw, i reallywould appreciate if you dont fuck with me.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:27:19 UTC No. 16475511
>>16475505
RTLS, dumdum.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:34:01 UTC No. 16475515
>>16475511
what about the hot stage ring? asshole.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:35:00 UTC No. 16475516
>>16475515
I'll let you know when SpaceX figures it out.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:36:43 UTC No. 16475520
>>16474781
I know the mark of a bear paw when I see it. They're fighting space bears and hiding it from the taxpayer. Is the ISS in danger of bear attack? Who put these bears in space? Are the bears communists?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:46:00 UTC No. 16475530
>>16475520
Cease your baseless inquiries into this subject at once.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:51:40 UTC No. 16475533
>>16475285
Yes, I did. Weeks ago. Apparently I nevertheless remember it's contents better than you.
>You may be wondering why the magic number is nine. I chose nine because we know that Falcon 9 is single-engine redundant.
@ 7:32 in that video
If you happened to make a seven engine rocket that had a redundant engine, then the "magic number" would be 7 rather than 9. If your rocket had 12 engines but only one redundant, then the magic number for that rocket would be 12, not 9.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:53:53 UTC No. 16475534
>>16475253
why? If that was the case we still wouldn't have the ability to launch our own astronauts
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:54:42 UTC No. 16475535
fuck you (in a good way)
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:12:05 UTC No. 16475543
>>16475535
thanks mate, i needed that
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:12:12 UTC No. 16475544
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:18:43 UTC No. 16475546
>>16475258
cant wait for the future asstroonomer seething and shitting as we build countless concentric dyson swarms around the gay Earth
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:20:15 UTC No. 16475550
Why haven't they made a starlink style weather satellite constellation? Or are the current handfull good enough?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:20:42 UTC No. 16475551
>>16475266
Lookin good
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:23:02 UTC No. 16475553
>>16475520
Space Bears are not a problem. They keep the Moon Bunny population in check.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:26:16 UTC No. 16475555
>>16475551
why is his body so small? and why can I instantly clock him as a homosexual even though he's not public about it?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:28:23 UTC No. 16475556
>>16475544
hmmmmmmmm no
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:29:35 UTC No. 16475558
>>16475552
are they going to destack it for fts or has that already been done?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:31:32 UTC No. 16475559
>>16475555
soft estrogen face. he got them eyes
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:36:01 UTC No. 16475561
>>16475556
That's plenty big enough to fit a hotstage ring, maybe 2
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:36:07 UTC No. 16475562
>>16475556
ship is as two pieces then weld it on arrival
ez pz
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:49:04 UTC No. 16475570
TONIGHT, ON BOTTOM GEAR
>Richard survives a launch abort!
>"WELL THIS CERTAINLY IS SOME HORSEPOWER ISN'T IT"
>cut to Soyuz launch escape tower igniting at max Q
>James attempts to start a rocket engine!
>"Lads, I think it must be a bit damp."
>cut to green TEA/TEB flash and James being annihilated by a Merlin exhaust plume
>and I test drive the new Boeing Starliner!
>"It seems we've developed a loss of power, something must be cocked up
with the forward thrusters."
>cut to Starliner motionless outside the ISS and unable to dock
>All this and more tonight on Bottom Gear!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:50:11 UTC No. 16475573
>>16475570
when's the mars special coming out
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:52:32 UTC No. 16475576
>>16475570
What da stig doing?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:54:56 UTC No. 16475579
>>16475300
hmmmmm
no, you've totally misunderstood thermodynamics, go back to school kid
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:56:54 UTC No. 16475582
>>16475300
>>16475579
This is the rocket equivalent of thinking cold water boils faster than hot water.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:00:23 UTC No. 16475586
>>16475576
>Some say he's able to generate thrust by reflecting microwaves inside his helmet in a way that violates the law of conservation of momentum,
>and that he actually set foot on the moon shortly before Neil Armstrong, but immediately reentered the lander, finding the surface of the moon to be uncomfortably chilly.
>All we know is, he's called Alexstig Leonstignov.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:05:41 UTC No. 16475593
>>16475553
>Space Bear Propaganda
Пocт лaпa, звepь.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:06:53 UTC No. 16475596
get hyped
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:07:21 UTC No. 16475597
>>16475581
spacex has really sped up the stacking process. look at that ship zoom
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:08:46 UTC No. 16475598
>>16475582
THE INVERSE MPEMBA EFFECT IS VERY REAL AND I WON'T BE CONVINCED OTHERWISE
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:11:45 UTC No. 16475600
>>16475490
Starbase Starfactory is the prototype. The Roberts Road facility has nearly twice as much land under SpaceX's control and the factory there has the potential to get to be as half as big as Giga Austin. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the decade or by mid decade next, SpaceX will build an actual Gigafactory Austin sized facility for Starship/SuperHeavy production as they ramp the sheer volume of Crew and Moonships.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:13:13 UTC No. 16475602
>>16475581
>new upgrade to Mechazilla now allow SpaceX to launch Starship in a new flight profile that allows it to clear the tower without igniting its engines, reach a height of half a kilometer before ignition occurs, allowing SpaceX to shave hundreds of metric tons of fuel, paving the way to a new era of reusability
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:14:42 UTC No. 16475604
>>16475602
Slinglaunch 2025
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:19:03 UTC No. 16475605
>>16475474
sons of liberty
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:19:09 UTC No. 16475606
>>16475604
>who needs raptors when you have a million autists pulling back on a slingshot to punt a Starship into low OP's mom's orbit
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:21:14 UTC No. 16475608
https://twitter.com/danpiemont/stat
ABL space stops its orbital launch activities to focus on missile defense.
No RS-1 ever cleared its pad. Reminder ABL had a 58 launches contract from Lockheed..
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:21:59 UTC No. 16475610
>>16475608
who?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:27:44 UTC No. 16475616
3 days
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:33:42 UTC No. 16475625
>>16475610
ABL - A Bitch of Lockheed
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:34:13 UTC No. 16475628
>>16475608
Smart. Smallaunch isn't a completely dead market segment yet but it only gets harder to break into with each passing year. Meanwhile, there's a desperate demand for anything that's remotely SM-3 equivilant. This is the best move they could have possibly made given current circumstances
Still sucks that we'll never get to see any good RS-1 launch footage
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:43:48 UTC No. 16475639
>>16475457
>When do the astroonomers start complaining about them blocking out stars?
funny how they're silent about the chinese satellites even though they're some of the brightest
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:48:01 UTC No. 16475642
intuitive machines demands more gibs, says artemis should focus on unmanned missions first
https://spacenews.com/intuitive-mac
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:48:50 UTC No. 16475643
>>16475608
Absolute bankruptcy looming
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:55:48 UTC No. 16475647
>>16475600
>Starbase Starfactory is the prototype
This fucking company man
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:00:06 UTC No. 16475649
>>16475478
>I'm not sure what there is to learn from what you describe
What they would be like with moon gravity, just how their biology and the terrarium biosphere would function over time, how plants would react to the differing sun light.
In the other experiment with just plant matters and microbes, small holes in the container, to see what leaked out, precursor to the possibility of atmosphere generation at all, or if the tiniest of holes allowing access to moons vacua, would disrupt the functioning of terrarium cylinder A vs complete enclosed cylinder B.
Maybe there are automatic shades that allow differing amount of sun light.
Yeah really just to see how a terrarium bio of a variety of earthly life forms would function over, months, years, while boxly attached to the moons surface.
The other simpler version, with holes sensor monitor at the holes what kind of interaction is going on there.
Test the habitat tech of oxygen and water and climate control, I mean how automated are those things planned to be, press on and they run smoothly for months straight?
A pond in the terrariums, how will fish do, a fenced in section garden bed open to moon air of plants, that are fed water and soil nutrients, co2 from underneath, see how they do.
Okay it may all be stupid pointless idea, but I thought there was something to it.
Yeah it's a pointless idea.
Is there fear of contaminating the moon, could micro organisms multiply there and take over, what can be used to terraform?
We have a c02 problem, ship it all to the moon, to the miles long plant beds that are seeped co2 from underneath,
Okay I'm back to thinking terrarium might be cool, my only problem was I was thinking too small.
100 x 100 x 100 yd rainforest jungle, that is see through, hooked up with vid cams, but maybe also can be seen vines on trees through a glass cube from earth telescope.
No it's all dumb
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:02:39 UTC No. 16475652
>>16475642
IM is based so I'm cool with this
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:04:34 UTC No. 16475655
Trump on Elon
>he likes this place. I can't get him out of here!
it's over, the feud has started
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:06:22 UTC No. 16475658
>>16475655
Felonbros...
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:09:02 UTC No. 16475663
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:09:03 UTC No. 16475664
>>16475647
orbital propellant depot v1 prototype test article
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:14:45 UTC No. 16475668
>>16475642
where's that moonlink elooooooooooon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:15:11 UTC No. 16475670
>>16475608
>However, over the past few years, we’ve seen our ability to make a meaningful impact in the launch industry diminish. Take a look around. U.S. rockets fly every couple of days, with perfect success. It’s revolutionary. While there is still a need for more providers in certain market segments, those opportunities are decreasing. To succeed in such a demanding effort as scaling up an orbital launch program, you need deep motivation around your mission and potential impact, from many stakeholders. As the launch market matured, those motivations thinned and our path to making a big contribution as a commercial launch company narrowed considerably.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:15:19 UTC No. 16475671
>>16475608
Will be folded into Lockheed Marin right?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:21:41 UTC No. 16475676
>>16475647
Elon said that Tesla's biggest advantage is their manufacturing capability and not specifically their EV tech. Elon routinely cross pollinates talent from Tesla into SpaceX and vice-versa to augment and accelerate projects. Tesla also uses each factory as basically a CICD pipeline, learning from failures and improving in the process. No two Tesla factories at the same. Freemonth led to Nevada which led to Shanghai, which led to Berlin, which led to Austin. Austin is their largest and most advanced and most modern factory yet. SpaceX is following the same playbook. You can think of Starbase, Texas as the equivalent of Freemont where like the Model 3 production, they were building everything in tents. They've now completed the tent phase and are about to enter the proper factory phase. That's v1.0 aka Freemont aka Starbase. Roberts Road will be equivalent to Giga Shanghai. If they ever build a third Starfactory, say in Maine for example (as it's towards the north most tip of the US and closer to polar orbit launch profiles), we'll basically see a factory in vein of either Berlin or Austin.
Like 4-5 years ago, Elon tweeted that he's playing Factorio on speedrun, in real life. All behavior with Tesla and SpaceX completely tracks with that sentiment. Hell, take the new X/Ai data center that was built in Memphis, Tennessee. They built a 100,000 H100 GPU datacenter for model training in 122 days. Jensen Huang literally in an interview said that it takes on average about 4 years to do the same. While the DC in this case is exclusive for this startup and not a general purpose, so a lot of qualification and certification was skipped, it's nonetheless quite ridiculous. It also is first principles design. They didn't have 100MW of power available, so they bought NatGas turbine plants on site to even out the power until they got approved for more. Then they got milisecond power issues during training ramp, so they bought in 100MW megapacks to streamline the power.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:24:26 UTC No. 16475679
>>16475676
>>16475647
So much so that Sam Altman abjectly panicked and went to Microsoft's board demanding they move just as quickly. There's like a dozen other startups now demanding that when DCs are built, natgas turbines are bought on site to accelerate design, build, and success rate. And that eventually tap into Tesla megapacks too, in order to streamline power delivery so inconsistent power delivery during training ramp when GPUs massively scale up power until they normalize is addressed. The sheer degree of optimizations at every level involved are insane, and this guy just keeps pushing the boundary ever forward. It's hard to extrapolate where SpaceX and Tesla and other Elon ventures will be in 10 years, because practically ever year, they reinvent the wheel and make it something radically newer and better to the degree that the competition keeps shitting and pissing their pants, falling over to try to catch up what they pulled off last year.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:25:35 UTC No. 16475681
>>16475676
>Tesla also uses each factory as basically a CICD pipeline
but teslas change much less than other makes of car over time? or do you mean a cicd pipeline for factory design?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:26:59 UTC No. 16475683
>>16475664
I've seen this before
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:27:50 UTC No. 16475684
>>16475681
CiCD of the factory itself. Tesla treats the factory as a whole as just another piece of software that needs to be tested, in a pipeline, and optimized over time. Most car companies have a factory design and they copy pasta it all over the world, optimizing it minimally to account for supply chain constraints. Tesla says "fuck that, each factory is an opportunity to fully refactor the ENTIRE design, and so we will, and anyone that disagrees is fired and asked to fuck off the premises."
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:31:05 UTC No. 16475686
MY SHIT IS FUCKING YELLOWWWW MY SHIT IS FFFFUUUUCKINGGG YEELLLLLOOOOOWWWWW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:32:00 UTC No. 16475687
>>16475681
>but teslas change much less than other makes of car over time
They change from literally month to month. Teslas from Jan aren't same as Teslas from December and like from July/Aug or so. Even though they keep the old model number arch that cars use, the starting year tesla and ending year Tesla are different.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:36:53 UTC No. 16475691
Uhhh I think Elon is acting Secretary of State rn
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:38:35 UTC No. 16475695
>>16475681
where did you even hear that? there is some youtube guy who does teardowns if you're actually interested but it changes all the time.
>Munro Live
major changes (like 48V or switching to ethernet communication) are by per vehicle line though. though sometimes not like how they started gigacasting parts for the model 3 without changing the name
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:38:47 UTC No. 16475696
>>16475691
It honestly breaks every precedent in the book and as much as he's capable, he needs to cut that shit out. If he tries to fly too high by himself, his wings of wax will burn and he'll plummet.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:41:40 UTC No. 16475698
>>16475691
>>16475696
The Trump Administration doesn't take power until Inauguration Day on January 20th, and has no actual political power until then. If it somehow actually got to that point, Elon wouldn't be acting anything until then.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:43:15 UTC No. 16475699
>>16474879
you could die tomorrow
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:44:27 UTC No. 16475701
>>16475681
Tesla doesn't have annual model releases or refreshes like other OEMs, because they continuously iterate on the vehicles. The only time major architecture changes occur is when they do half-decade model refreshes. Model 3 came out in 2018, they refreshed it in 2023. Model Y came out in 2019, they are refreshing it next year. Model X doesn't really get refreshes, but it does get improvements made from lessons learned from the Model 3 and Y lines. Model S is basically a skunkworks project in Tesla. Their top talent all works on it, and the all basically use that platform and architecture to push the physical limit and the bleeding edge of tech to try out all kindsa batshit ideas. Some work, others don't. What works is sold to customers, and then those ideas are trickled down into the Model 3 and Y lines for mass market production/optimization. The Model 3 motor for example, is the mass production version of the Model S motor and the Model Y motor is the same motor. Fun fact, the electric motors that control the gridfins on the super heavy booster and the flaps on the Starship, are Model 3 motors.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:44:29 UTC No. 16475702
>>16475698
he's been present for high profile callsz ukraine discussion, and now met with iranian officials. and with the president of argentina. this seems a little more than just DOGE. US goveenment is becoming his new X
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:44:42 UTC No. 16475703
>>16474780
it's sad performance art
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:47:48 UTC No. 16475704
>>16475691
more like a chief of staff during the transition period as they usually are the ones who have their hand on the political pulse. for whatever trump wants elon around for that
>>16475702
oh wait you're some kind of retard so nvm. dutch maybe?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:50:23 UTC No. 16475706
>>16475448
How would they qualify as a monopoly when all the other players just suck so bad that no one wants to use them (and it's not the fault of spacex), or in some cases no one else is even trying to do the things that they're doing
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:53:28 UTC No. 16475708
>>16475704
he's secretary of trump actually. trump's butler. what a chump
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:04:07 UTC No. 16475724
>>16475696
Fuck off and go concern troll somewhere else
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:26:52 UTC No. 16475732
spaceflight?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:31:05 UTC No. 16475737
>>16475732
would you settle for rocket girls?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:33:28 UTC No. 16475739
>>16475737
if spacex catches starship first try i will do a cum tribute on my starship torch and face reveal
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:57:57 UTC No. 16475748
>>16475696
>Muh wax wings
>t. person who hasn’t even been to orbit.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:05:18 UTC No. 16475753
>>16475655
>>16475658
Elon should ask to be made the DARPA director.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:08:13 UTC No. 16475755
>>16475753
He will be Secretary on UFOS/USOS
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:19:25 UTC No. 16475761
>>16475655
Felonious Moskal Husk needs to learn to respect peoples boundaries.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:24:45 UTC No. 16475764
why isnt HLS vac engines only? You could fit 7 of them right?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:30:07 UTC No. 16475768
Weather still looking good, a bit windy maybe.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:40:14 UTC No. 16475773
>>16474780
We don't fucking know. Bezos' paranoia means we have no fucking idea what capabilities it has.
45 tonnes to LEO when discarding second stage? Wow, that's a whopping 10% improvement over Falcon Heavy.
Apparently it's going to cost less to launch than a Falcon 9.
I hear you can collapse the whole thing down and carry it around in your pocket.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:46:52 UTC No. 16475778
>>16475520
He is literally the bear hunter
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:59:44 UTC No. 16475788
>>16475737
she looks a little uggo, but that plane is well drawn, very sexy
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:14:01 UTC No. 16475790
>>16475764
The bottom of the LOX tank is domed, you can't fit an rvac in the center. There's no justification for having 6 rvacs either, the thrust isn't necessary. 3 sea level raptors are overkill too, it's just you wouldn't want to all lose all thrust vectoring if your only one failed.
In the ballpark of masses we expect from HLS the 3 or so extra seconds of Isp you get from 3 extra rvacs aren't worth it, assuming 3 sea level raptors are firing at 40% thrust the entire time. It nets a loss in performance from the dry mass gain.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:14:54 UTC No. 16475791
>>16475593
That bear is very clearly Chinese.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:17:22 UTC No. 16475793
>>16475764
Would there be room for gimbaling?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:30:16 UTC No. 16475798
after this flight its on to V2 starship, with orbital to come. next year is going to be so fucking hype bros
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:52:45 UTC No. 16475808
>>16475764
>a hydrolox raptor
I wonder what would have to change aside from the name
The expansion ratio would be different, the stochiometry would be off, etc
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:58:14 UTC No. 16475811
>>16475702
Musk was merting with heads of state like milei before getting involved in politics explicitly