🗑️ 🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:09:31 UTC No. 16474712
spacex week edition
previous >>16472823
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:12:26 UTC No. 16474716
>>16474712
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll
Starlink
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:15:37 UTC No. 16474717
In light of recent events, I made a rather conservative estimate of the future of spess colonies
2025 - mars base(spacex), population 10000
2026 - phobos base(spacex), populaton 7000
2027 - ceres base(spacex), population 9000
2028 - jupiter orbital base(spacex), popilation 700
2029 - EVROPA base(spacex), population 12000
2030 - calisto base(spacex), population 8000
2031 - enceladus base(Spacex), population 15000
2032 - mars base(china), population ~1,6 billion
2033 - venus cloud base(spacex), population 7000
2034 - saturn ring base(spacex), population 4500
2035 - titan cuck base(spacex), population less than a dozen
2036 - uranus base(spacex), population 6900
2037 - neptune base(spacex), population 5500
2038 - first colony ship sent to proxima centauri b(spacex), population 150000
2039 - Pluto (spacex), population 13000
2040 - colony ship sent to ross 128b(spacex), population 370000
2041 - asteroid belt stations(china), population uncountable
2042 - colony ships sent to GJ 1061(spacex), population 1250000
2043 - mercury solar death ray (spacex), population classified
2044 - Eris cloning facility (spacex), population >100000000
2045 - agartha base(spacex), population 750000
2046 - Earth-X genocide wars
2047 - earth colony(X empire), population 0.7 billion
2048 - colony ships sent to andromeda galaxy via wormhole(X empire), population several billion
2049 - Sagittarius A* colony(X empire), population ~13 trillion
2050 - Mankind becomes a kardashev type 3 civilization(X empire), population ~70 quintillion
2051 - Moon base(NASA), population 0-10
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:16:12 UTC No. 16474720
>>16474716
>https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1mnxeAX
SpaceX now live
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:19:53 UTC No. 16474725
>>16474673
How will trump and musk help sls? At the rate it's going artemis 2 won't launch before 2027 and that'll probably be uncrewed because of orions heat shield issues. Theres jist no way trump gets boots on the moon before his term is up if he sticks with sls and he can't get the funds to do something faster without canceling it.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:20:10 UTC No. 16474726
so many launches
so many satellites
so few people in space
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:29:32 UTC No. 16474734
He can't keep getting away with it!
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:30:38 UTC No. 16474736
the rare daytime barge landing. cool to have a gap in the clouds to see how the first stage basically comes in sideways across the barge before angling back in again during the landing burn
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:35:46 UTC No. 16474741
>>16474712
>not The Great Elon Musk edition
Killy yourself idiot EDS shill
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:50:02 UTC No. 16474756
In KSP RSS the meta for fully reusable rockets is to have minimum possible lifting surfaces on the upper stage, but a lot more on the bosoter since parasitc mass doesnt matter as much on 1st stage and greater crossrange + lower terminal velocity means you use less fuel returning. Blue Origin seems to have taken this approach, makes me wonder why Superheavy has no aero surfaces beside the gridfins. It could do a glide return with much lower peak heating on the engines and less fuel used in boostback
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:59:17 UTC No. 16474764
>>16474712
This is the worst OP in awhile
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:01:23 UTC No. 16474765
>>16474746
Just in case the government ever needed to get a kiloton satellite to geo
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:02:26 UTC No. 16474768
>>16474764
malicious compliance from the early baker
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:04:36 UTC No. 16474771
>>16474725
why the massive glands?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:09:17 UTC No. 16474776
>>16474725
maybe they'll force orion to dock with dragon so they can safely return the astronauts
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:17:46 UTC No. 16474781
>>16474776
>orion
>safely
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:19:32 UTC No. 16474783
>>16474781
return the astronauts on dragon with orion returning home empty, just like they did with starliner
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:23:00 UTC No. 16474786
>>16474780
Anything Blue Origin is a joke and will remain so until they've successfully launched anything besides their carnival ride.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:26:35 UTC No. 16474787
reminder
>Multiple sources have confirmed that NASA is studying alternatives to the planned Artemis III landing of two astronauts on the Moon, nominally scheduled for September 2026
>Under one of the options, astronauts would launch into low-Earth orbit inside an Orion spacecraft and rendezvous there with a Starship vehicle, separately launched by SpaceX. During this mission, similar to Apollo 9, a precursor to the Apollo 11 lunar landing, the crew would validate the ability of Orion and Starship to dock and test habitability inside Starship. The crew would then return to Earth.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:29:24 UTC No. 16474788
>>16474756
My guesses: (1) aerodynamic stuff is generally more complicated than rockets and I'd imagine harder (though obviously not impossible) to automate, especially factoring in things like wind and the sloshing of propellant that aren't in KSP, (2) first stages with aerodynamic surfaces are costlier to manufacture. There's a lot to be said for keeping things simple and then optimizing the hardware
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:29:37 UTC No. 16474790
>>16474780
SOVL, unironically. New Glenn is the perfect fit. An oversized rocket for an overweight capsule.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:32:23 UTC No. 16474791
>>16474780
Tell me about the fletch why is it there.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:35:17 UTC No. 16474794
test
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:36:05 UTC No. 16474795
>>16474780
Honestly, its the right rocket for Artemis SLS replacement. Also, it absolves Elon and DOGE of favoritism accusations, since it would be handing the capsule launch of the astronauts to a direct rival. Although SpaceX still takes the glory, by landing so many HLS Starships on the Moon, it makes BO look funny in comparison.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:37:17 UTC No. 16474799
>>16474787
>astronauts would launch into low-Earth orbit inside an Orion spacecraft
Which spacecraft can put Orion into LEO?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:38:13 UTC No. 16474801
>>16474787
Why wasn't that the plan from the start?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:38:36 UTC No. 16474803
>>16474799
The bridenstack
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:39:37 UTC No. 16474804
>>16474801
no i think they were supposed to meet up at gateway
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:39:37 UTC No. 16474805
>>16474787
If you're launching Orion then might as well go to the moon with it, it's retarded launching that incredibly expensive vehicle to LEO. Just use Dragon.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:41:09 UTC No. 16474806
fuck you
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:41:18 UTC No. 16474807
>>16474799
Vulcan has the diameter and capacity for an LEO launch
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:47:08 UTC No. 16474812
Hey guys I'm compiling some videos that I think will ultimately be significant in the history of spaceflight, and I'm having trouble finding one. I'm pretty sure it's a rally, and Trump says something like
>and I said EE LAN, can you get us to Mars?
and everyone cheers. There's like 1.5 work year's worth of rally footage out there (3000+ hours) so I haven't had any luck. Does anybody know what I'm talking about?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:52:04 UTC No. 16474821
>>16474812
It occurred more than once, but one of them he just paused, mumbled and insecurely said, I think we can.
Because Trump made it a hard deadline with boots on Mars, he knows is questionable and maybe undoable timeline that would result in accidental deaths due to rushing.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:53:03 UTC No. 16474823
>>16474809
sex with anime rocket girls
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:54:24 UTC No. 16474824
>>16474812
I'm not sure Trump is gonna like being in the Shadow of Elon bros...
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:55:43 UTC No. 16474826
>>16474820
Jeff Bezos cant meme
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:56:52 UTC No. 16474828
>>16474826
That makes two tycoons.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:57:49 UTC No. 16474830
>>16474717
You forgot to add +100 years.
This is impossible to achieve in that time frame. If you think that, then your brain is rotten from too much sci-fi slop.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:58:17 UTC No. 16474831
>>16474828
Yes, Zuckerberg and Bezos both cant meme.
Add Bill Gates to the list too
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:02:03 UTC No. 16474834
>>16474804
I mean, docking in LEO should be the original plan. HLS is still an unproven vehicle, and they wanted to do a manned Moon landing right away.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:04:01 UTC No. 16474836
>>16474812
have you used chatgpt yet? My google skills are really good, but it sometimes saves me time when I'm trying to find some obscure name or facts.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:08:22 UTC No. 16474839
>>16474834
The whole Artemis plan is retarded. 2024 was a completely fake date for artemis 3 too. Seemed like NASA was trying to copy Musks style in that regard. The lunar landing will happen in 2028, which is what NASA originally expected. No doubt there will be at least 1 HLS mission with crew but no Lunar landing along the way
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:11:10 UTC No. 16474840
>>16474839
>The lunar landing will happen in 2028
I'm extremely skeptical of this due to nasas procrastination on the heatshield problem. I don't expect artemis 2 before 2027. Maybe if we're lucky we get artemis 3 in 2030.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:12:07 UTC No. 16474843
>>16474809
what is tha... BY GOD NEW GLENN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:13:33 UTC No. 16474845
>>16474809
>what is tha... BY GOD NEW GLENN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:13:35 UTC No. 16474846
>>16474725
they won't, SLS is dead (== good)
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:16:24 UTC No. 16474852
>>16474845
At least SLS is real
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:22:29 UTC No. 16474854
>>16474297
it's cold at night because the earth's emitted power is high, and the felt temperature on the surface is dominated by convective effects, not radiative
>>16474596
the serious names were a mandate because 10 named their shit snoopy and charlie brown and NASA decided that was embarrassing
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:25:45 UTC No. 16474856
>>16474723
Boca Chica is so beautiful this time of year
>>16474756
tanks are heavier and wings are lighter in KSP than in reality
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:26:29 UTC No. 16474858
>>16474780
3 stage new glenn is sex
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:35:07 UTC No. 16474861
>>16474812
I hope Elon keep a low profile, he's getting too close to the sun, which is bad.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:36:10 UTC No. 16474862
>>16474861
What happens if Elon gets too close to the sun, so to speak?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:37:23 UTC No. 16474863
>>16474862
His wings melt and he falls into the ocean
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:40:04 UTC No. 16474866
>>16474862
Killed by the CIA. Certain people do not want Mars to happen. The only possible threat to America is a second America with more white people and less regulation, 86 million miles out of nuking range
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:49:12 UTC No. 16474876
>>16474809
This was from when SN9 flew and crashed right around the time SLS fouled up its first long duration engine test, iirc
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:50:50 UTC No. 16474879
>>16474717
Lmao even a manned mars mission in your lifetime is not guaranteed
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:52:08 UTC No. 16474881
>>16474879
Now that trump is president it is, short of him dying in a freak car accident tomorrow or something.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:55:39 UTC No. 16474884
>>16474876
here
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:11:09 UTC No. 16474901
>>16474897
7m diameter
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:12:44 UTC No. 16474902
>>16474897
>hydromeme
Why?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:20:55 UTC No. 16474903
>>16474897
Have these guys ever successfully launched a rocket?
I mean even BO has a successful liquid propelled rocket (and billions of dollars). What do these guys have?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:25:13 UTC No. 16474910
>>16474903
RFA-1 is supposed to be launching from SaxaVord, so they've been crawling through the same regulatory hell that finished over Virgin Orbit. Blowing up a first stage during testing back in August hasn't helped them any
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:27:39 UTC No. 16474913
>>16474836
Alright I asked it and it made something up to agree with me
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:28:37 UTC No. 16474915
>>16474903
>What do these guys have?
Static fired S2 and a uh, partially static fired S1 that blew up when they tried to fully static fire it.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:31:49 UTC No. 16474917
>>16474717
> 2025 - mars base(spacex), population 10000
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:35:57 UTC No. 16474925
>>16474756
propellant is cheap and wings are expensive, efficiency doesn't matter if it costs more, & higher peak heating isn't an issue that costs less to solve with wings vs a bit of TPS.
>>16474780
An improvement of $3 billion vs SLS, now just replace the $1 billion thing on top.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:37:46 UTC No. 16474927
What are they even going to try with Flight 6? Same shit or are they going to at least try a reignite? Also, when the fuck are we gonna see a Starship 2.0 prototype in flight?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:38:08 UTC No. 16474928
>>16474917
you must be a member of mensa
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:39:38 UTC No. 16474929
>>16474917
Let him cook
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:41:21 UTC No. 16474931
>>16474928
Mensa these balls
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:42:21 UTC No. 16474932
>>16474931
fuckin got him lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:43:54 UTC No. 16474933
>>16474927
the launch profile is mostly similar but they will test a raptor relight during the coast phase, different more aggressive re-entry profile and less tiles on the ship, a bit different booster landing procedure (though probably looks similar to us)
block 2 starship is going to be on flight 7
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:56:53 UTC No. 16474944
I don’t understand why BO is jumping from non-orbital flight to a heavy lift vehicle with a reusable first stage. I don’t think they have a chance in hell of pulling this off. From what I understand BO has been hemorrhaging talent to SpaceX for a long time
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:58:38 UTC No. 16474948
>>16474944
I don’t think they’ll get reuse on the first try like they want, but I don’t see any reason the rocket won’t work. Both stage engines are flight proven.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:03:58 UTC No. 16474954
>>16474910
You have any insight onto what exactly the brits are demanding of them to launch?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:07:18 UTC No. 16474958
>>16474949
is the place.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:07:54 UTC No. 16474961
>>16474944
It's actually that easy in rocketry.
>I don’t think they have a chance in hell of pulling this off.
90% they will, they have a bit of experience with NS.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:08:46 UTC No. 16474962
>>16474949
Space Shuttle is ther most beautiful craft ever built. Physical perfection. Perfect form. Starship does not come close.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:12:29 UTC No. 16474964
>>16474962
Space Shuttle was powered by kino alone
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:18:03 UTC No. 16474968
>>16474965
stickin my fist in your ass while you do it ;)
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:19:21 UTC No. 16474972
>>16474897
>https://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs
>https://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs
I prefer it over the ArianeGroup proposal
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:20:50 UTC No. 16474977
>>16474965
>I'm over here stroking my dick I got A20130236012 on my dick right now. I'm just stroking my shit I'm horny as fuck man I'm a freak man like for real
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:25:02 UTC No. 16474981
RAHHH BOOSTER IS ON THE LAUNCHPAD WE ARE GOING
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:26:51 UTC No. 16474984
>>16474982
It's easier to make money elsewhere and buy your mission.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:27:53 UTC No. 16474985
>>16474984
I want my own rocket.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:29:28 UTC No. 16474988
>>16474985
There's too many launchers already. Just buy a Starship trip
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:30:14 UTC No. 16474989
>>16474799
>Which spacecraft can put Orion into LEO?
Falcon Heavy, 6 SRB Vulcan and New Glenn all have the performance to.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:30:29 UTC No. 16474990
>>16474949
>space shuttle
ew
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:33:47 UTC No. 16474992
>>16474988
Can you just buy a Starship wholesale? I want to own the upper stage and pay SpaceX to launch it (and me) into LEO, then pay for refueling flights so I can take my Starship wherever the fuck I please.
>nooo you can't go to Saturn
What if I can?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:45:18 UTC No. 16474997
>>16474992
This will be done in the future. Planes were originally basically only for the inventors in the field, but now anyone can get a small plane like a Cessna and fly. Same with cars, will just be a bit before they allow it. I would think that this happens first on Mars than anywhere else due to them not having to follow US regulation of Trump gives Elon the go ahead to be a self managing colony as its completely owned by SpaceX.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:45:57 UTC No. 16474998
>>16474992
With any luck starship and its “competitors” will be the last generation of rockets that functions under the “launch service provider” model. Hopefully future generations will function more like airlines/airline manufacturers. Airbus doesn’t sell rides on their planes, they sell their planes to other companies who operate them.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:47:23 UTC No. 16475000
>>16474992
I mean you definitely aren't piloting a Starship so you'd probably pay them to manage the entire travel side of things. If Starship works as planned I don't see why someone with $20 million in 2050 can't just fill the ship with five years of life support/food/water and head to Saturn. Might need to double or triple that cost if you want to come back though.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:49:47 UTC No. 16475003
Could a Superheavy with no Starship on top get to LEO? Could you refill an entire stack in space, expend the entire booster to accelerate, and use a fully filled Starship to decelerate? How quickly would that get you to Mars?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:55:27 UTC No. 16475004
>>16474992
kek, I would do the same if I had the money, anon. Buy a Starship, fill it up, and then make a one-way trip to Eris/Dysnomia.
>nooo, you have to human rate it first!
just sign a waiver.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:56:38 UTC No. 16475005
You would be surprised by the amount of people that would voluntarily go on a 1 way trip to Mars.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:59:48 UTC No. 16475008
>>16475005
yeah have fun with your mars base populated exclusively by suicidally depressed loners
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:01:01 UTC No. 16475009
>>16475008
Mars will cure depression. You don't think so and you're wrong.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:05:25 UTC No. 16475013
>>16475003
It's hard to say without exact weight and performance numbers, but some people (redditors) have looked into the idea and the answer seems like a tentative yes. Having an extra ~9km/s to work with would allow you to use significantly faster trajectories to Mars, although you might run into some issues if the standard aerobreaking profile exceeds what Starship is capable of and you start needing to use retropropulsion to survive Martian entry
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:07:55 UTC No. 16475014
>>16475013
>superheavy is a smallsat SSTO
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:13:31 UTC No. 16475016
>>16475014
Technically yes. Most people assume that an SSTO has enough fuel to land after it gets to orbit, but if you ignore that part you could probably deliver some Electron-sized payloads
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:14:13 UTC No. 16475017
>>16475003
>>16475013
>>16475014
It's definitely not an SSTO. Stop sucking off SpaceX.
Original Interplanetary Transport System was meant to be an SSTO but now neither are capable.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:15:04 UTC No. 16475018
>>16475003
>refilling an entire super heavy + starship stack in LEO
enceladus in 4 months here we go
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:18:09 UTC No. 16475021
>>16475017
I’ll concede it being an SSTO but I’m not going to stop slobbering on spacex’s juicy cock.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:22:05 UTC No. 16475026
>>16475018
>enceladus in 4 months here we go
Death to slow drifts, let's fucking GO
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:23:10 UTC No. 16475028
ArianeGroup really seems to hate the concept of a methalox upper-stage. Their preference is to first develop the disposable hydromeme upper-stage (left), and maybe do the methalox reusable upper (right) sometime later
And I do mean HATE, their proposal document was full of passive aggressive snark
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:26:15 UTC No. 16475030
>>16474824
Are these doom posts genuine? You aren't really this dumb, right? You give off non American citizen vibes
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:27:49 UTC No. 16475031
>>16475030
Were you born in 2008?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:29:49 UTC No. 16475033
>>16475028
>Initially propose large 2xMethalox reusable stages (also wtf is that S2/S1 ratio... That SUSIEship should be twice longer)
>It has shit performances to higher orbit therefore we'll use hydrolox expendable stages
???? have they heard of refuelling or kick stages?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:31:09 UTC No. 16475034
>>16475003
>Could a Superheavy with no Starship on top get to LEO?
The dV is like 8, you need 9, so just shy. You could however, God forgive me, put a superheavy on top of another superheavy
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:31:18 UTC No. 16475035
>>16475031
Answer my question first, then I'll answer yours.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:31:59 UTC No. 16475036
>>16474717
lol
lmao
rofl
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:34:26 UTC No. 16475038
>>16475018
>enceladus in 4 months here we go
a quick flyby then off to interstellar space since you can't brake
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:35:32 UTC No. 16475039
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:36:07 UTC No. 16475041
>>16475036
Unironically SpaceX could so some cool shit for the 2028 olympic games. At least carrying the flame in orbit. Maybe cislunar space too?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:42:07 UTC No. 16475047
>>16475041
>carry the flame to orbit
>it goes out
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:43:00 UTC No. 16475049
>>16475028
They already have hydrolox infrastructure at Kourou so it's not that big of a deal as for SpaceX
Additionally, they put huge amounts of cash, time and effort into developing hydrogen engines (and they are relatively decent ones at that).
>full of passive aggressive snark
French being French
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:46:34 UTC No. 16475050
>>16475047
Do you think engineering a torch that works in zero g would be a difficult task?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:47:16 UTC No. 16475051
>>16474902
Anything hydrogen gets fat cheques from European governments because "green" even though it's the most wasteful way of storing energy we've come up with.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:49:35 UTC No. 16475054
>>16475050
It depends what you mean.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:53:54 UTC No. 16475056
>>16475041
>>16475050
We can invent a space torch.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:54:22 UTC No. 16475058
>>16475054
>just fill your hab with rocket exhaust bro
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:54:49 UTC No. 16475060
>>16475051
There are people in europe who have wet dreams of repurposing the entire gas pipeline network of the EU to distribute hydrogen and heat homes&power the entire EU industry on it.
How they are going to produce that much hydrogen and how they are going to pump hydrogen, that is known to leak like a sieve trough pretty much anything, in those pipelines is also a mystery.
But greenfags are that way, close down the nuclear plants first, think about how to replace the power production later, we all can see how well that went for germany.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:56:45 UTC No. 16475062
>>16475060
If you add a carbon atom to every four hydrogen atoms it gets way easier to store and use
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:00:17 UTC No. 16475064
fuck you
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:01:01 UTC No. 16475065
Space is an NPC getto.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:01:44 UTC No. 16475066
>>16475028
Arianespace isn't going to promote methalox upper stage engines when they make hydrolox ones.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:03:06 UTC No. 16475069
>>16475058
Just roll down the windows a crack to air it out.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:03:37 UTC No. 16475070
>>16475060
The objective of the exercise is not to deliver anything at all, only vague promises. Vague promises guarantee government subsidies, once subsidies are in it's suddenly found "not economically viable" and everyone working on the project go somewhere else for more government subsidies.
You see it with on and off shore wind power, battery factories and endgame for now - hydrogen.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:04:37 UTC No. 16475071
>>16475062
Transforming that methane into hydrogen, which incidentally is the most efficient way of producing hydrogen wastes 70% of the energy stored in the methane.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:04:40 UTC No. 16475072
>>16475068
Hey yeah, how the hell would she know yet?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:05:59 UTC No. 16475078
>>16475076
ISS 2.0 Cuckshed Boogaloo.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:06:31 UTC No. 16475080
>>16475076
MY PENIS
IN THE TUBE
SEX NOW
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:17:04 UTC No. 16475084
>>16475076
Probably just ISS 2 without the russians
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:19:30 UTC No. 16475088
>>16475076
top 10 most expensive pictures
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:19:43 UTC No. 16475089
>>16475084
so just an american space station
ASS?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:21:24 UTC No. 16475091
>>16475089
if it was our fourth station it could've been called 4ASS...
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:22:33 UTC No. 16475093
>>16475089
Well the euros will be there too
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:28:32 UTC No. 16475103
>>16474717
>2032 - mars base(china), population ~1,6 billion
only possible if china sends me and 50 women by 2030
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:28:43 UTC No. 16475104
>>16475100
go play elite dangerous in VR
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:31:46 UTC No. 16475107
>>16475072
They have a spring contraption for measuring mass. The SLAMMD.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:34:03 UTC No. 16475111
>>16475107
>Sunni got SLAMMD in space
Sounds messy
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:36:25 UTC No. 16475112
>>16475068
fucking kek
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:40:58 UTC No. 16475116
>>16474962
Energia was the most beautiful lift system ever built.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:42:16 UTC No. 16475119
When are they going to start sending up Lunarlink and Marslink satellites?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:43:17 UTC No. 16475120
>>16475116
STS looked better. Between the orange, the aspect ratios of the srbs, and the design of the orbiter itself.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:44:32 UTC No. 16475123
>>16475100
I love them, too. Here's one I made for Sedna some time ago.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:44:33 UTC No. 16475124
>>16475119
marslink wont happen because by the time it's ready, the colony will be up and running and there wont be a need for nasa to send unmanned missions to mars anymore
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:45:43 UTC No. 16475126
>>16475123
That just looks like our moon with the red turned up.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:45:53 UTC No. 16475127
>>16475120
>the aspect ratios of the srbs
That's want entirely ruined it, and the SLS as a consequance, aesthetically. The thin ass SRB against that massive, thick orange tank looks fucking awful.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:45:56 UTC No. 16475128
>>16475047
Dirty little secret: the flame on the torch during the rely often gets blown out. They keep a backup of the flame in a lantern which is used to light the torch again the next morning but the torch that is blown out is just re-lit with a lighter.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:46:38 UTC No. 16475129
>>16474820
Pale blue dot, is orgin
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:48:37 UTC No. 16475130
>>16475107
She didn't say her mass was unchanged, she said she weights the same as when she arrived.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:49:11 UTC No. 16475131
>>16475116
Think you'll find N1 was the best looking rocket ever.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:49:51 UTC No. 16475132
>>16475124
The Martians themselves will need Marslink way more than rovers
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:49:57 UTC No. 16475133
>>16475130
Well I guess that’s true no matter how much they starve her
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:50:05 UTC No. 16475134
>>16475126
well yeah, that's more or less what I did lol. Here you have one from Venus, which I found on this general. Same vibe.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:51:30 UTC No. 16475136
>>16475132
would they? if everyone is located in a single settlement then it seems like the communications would be fine with just your regular wifi, cell, and other terrestrial radio
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:51:36 UTC No. 16475137
>>16475127
>-z,+z,-y,+y
>Not calling it Port, Starboard, Aft and Bow
shameful display
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:51:57 UTC No. 16475138
>>16475131
it’s so whimsical
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:52:03 UTC No. 16475139
>>16475134
Now it's Io's turn!
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:52:16 UTC No. 16475140
>>16475136
But how would they post on /sfg/?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:52:28 UTC No. 16475142
>>16475123
>>16475134
Thanks for sharing. The cold, icy landscapes are my favourite because they remind me of a dream I had when I was a kid.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:52:52 UTC No. 16475143
>>16475116
Energia was nothing special and Buran lacked the Shuttle perfection. It was jsut a faker, didnt even have the phatt ass of shuttle
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:53:54 UTC No. 16475145
>>16475143
Objectively better than the Shuttle.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:54:04 UTC No. 16475146
>>16474854
Leo propellant depot, how rare are largish objects in orbit hit by debris?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:54:11 UTC No. 16475147
>>16475140
probably a different communications architecture
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:55:03 UTC No. 16475148
>>16475139
Europa by the same artist.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:55:23 UTC No. 16475150
>>16475146
in LEO you can simply track all objects large enough to hurt you and shield against everything smaller with whipple shields
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:57:17 UTC No. 16475153
>>16475136
There's definitely going to be very remote specialised outposts/mines/factories that will need a continuous comm link like oil platforms on Earth. Not to mention the explosion of robotic workers/rovers when they can be live controlled by some guy in a chair on mars.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:59:14 UTC No. 16475157
>>16475139
Io, Io, were off to kill Io
with a bucket and spade and a hand grenade Io! Io, Io, Io!
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:03:45 UTC No. 16475162
>>16475142
>cold, icy landscapes are my favourite
Same. It feels as though you are so far away from everything you've ever known. Utter radio silence, tinnitus embraces you, only your thoughts are to be acknowledged. Nothing matters here, for all problems ceased to be. Were you to pass away, not a single soul would ever know. You and the landscape share no border, it all conflated into one. Solitude is your companion.
>a dream I had when I was a kid
Oh, do tell us.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:07:51 UTC No. 16475169
>>16475127
You will really hate SLS with the EUS upper stage then.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:11:00 UTC No. 16475173
>>16475169
Good thing it will never be built lmao.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:12:46 UTC No. 16475175
>>16475165
I still don't know what Trump's plan for space is
All I've gotten is some vague notion of deregulation for spacex
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:14:49 UTC No. 16475177
>>16475041
The torch was carried several time to orbit, though it wasn't lit up, because space agencies hate fun.
The real challenge would be to make it part of the relay, ie, keep it burning during launch, orbit, then deorbit.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:15:23 UTC No. 16475178
>>16474780
the SLS of the future
something stupidly expensive which only exists to make SpaceX look better
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:15:52 UTC No. 16475180
>>16475175
so far its vague but we've seen
>SLS canceled
>desire to get artemis 2 to the moon before his term is up
>desire to get starship to mars before his term is up
>expanded space force
>brilliant pebbles 2.0
some speculate that he'll push to get space command moved to huntsville alabama too
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:16:02 UTC No. 16475181
>>16475136
To connect to Earth
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:17:09 UTC No. 16475184
>>16475180
oh yeah and
>desire to get artemis 3 on the moon before his term is up
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:18:50 UTC No. 16475186
>>16475184
Isn't this contradictory with cancelling SLS?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:19:42 UTC No. 16475187
>>16475186
Only if you require Artemis to use SLS. You don't HAVE to use the orange rogget at all if you don't want to, why should you if the alternatives are orders of magnitude cheaper?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:19:46 UTC No. 16475188
>>16475175
Probably because you never looked.
https://spacenews.com/gop-platform-
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:20:04 UTC No. 16475189
>>16475166
Too many engines. No way a vehicle with that many engines can ever be made reliable.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:25:24 UTC No. 16475191
>>16475187
Realistically, Could starship become crew rated for moon to earth reentry in 4 years?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:25:27 UTC No. 16475192
>>16475188
>As recently as the early 2000s, it cost nearly $10,000 to put one kilogram into low-Earth orbit. By 2015, SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket could do it for $2,720. Today, launching the same payload costs as low as $1,500. With intense market competition and SpaceX’s huge new Starship rocket, we foresee pricing below $1,000 by the end of the decade. The last time we saw such a combination of falling prices and improved performance, it was in the integrated circuits that drove the personal computing and internet revolutions. Moore’s Law sustained global U.S. technological and economic dominance for decades. The Republican platform embraces the possibility of a similar boom in space.
we gaan
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:26:55 UTC No. 16475193
>>16475189
It turns out having your engines in multiples of 9 gives the most reliability.
https://youtu.be/ki5UBcXOIUs?si=xXI
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:27:06 UTC No. 16475194
>>16475188
>Greg Autry is the author of Red Moon Rising: How America Will be China on The Final Frontier.
>be
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:27:14 UTC No. 16475196
>>16475191
Why bot just use Orion but transfer sooner? Not dragging it to nrho means the heat shield as it is isn’t a problem and drops the requirements for a rocket that carries it by a lot.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:28:46 UTC No. 16475197
>>16474717
>2025 - mars base(spacex), population 10000
low level b8
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:36:06 UTC No. 16475203
>>16474812
I think that's the Pennsylvania rally. There haven't been too many where ELAN appears with Trump
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:42:43 UTC No. 16475216
>>16475203
I don't know for sure that Elon was that deep in it yet
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:47:36 UTC No. 16475224
>>16475189
>he doesn't know
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:01:26 UTC No. 16475231
>>16475166
>no engine-out redundancy in the second stage
FOOLS
>>16475189
GREATER FOOL
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:02:45 UTC No. 16475232
>>16475193
>multiples of 9
That's only according to his model. If you can have engine-out redundancy with 8 engines or a minimum of 10 engines, then the rest of the numbers are difference. Eager uses 9 in his model because that's what Falcon 9 has.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:04:46 UTC No. 16475233
>>16474861
Elon is going to buy the Sun.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:07:12 UTC No. 16475234
>>16475233
No fair, I was gonna buy that
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:50:30 UTC No. 16475253
>>16475252
sovl. I yearn for the reality where SpaceX never got off the ground.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:58:46 UTC No. 16475260
>>16475258
What’s so funny?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:59:07 UTC No. 16475261
>>16475260
Why dont you tell me Jeff?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:59:37 UTC No. 16475262
>>16475148
ice dragon?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:05:06 UTC No. 16475264
>>16475258
Love this stuff. Makes it so easy to argue they aren't a monopoly while they rake in $30b/y
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:05:34 UTC No. 16475266
https://x.com/GoToImpulse/status/18
>Introducing Deneb, a powerhouse hydrocarbon engine designed for unmatched performance.
>Deneb's ox-rich staged combustion cycle combined with a high area ratio expansion nozzle will deliver 15,000 pounds of thrust — setting it up to be one of the highest-performing liquid oxygen/liquid methane engines ever flown, per its creator, Tom Mueller (@lrocket).
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:08:32 UTC No. 16475268
>>16475266
Looks pretty tidy. Is it, perhaps, only “partially assembled”?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:09:55 UTC No. 16475271
>>16475268
Engines are getting simpler, I like this trend. Maybe eventually they'll be simple enough for a retard like me to figure out.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:11:27 UTC No. 16475272
>>16475258
big if true. another L for spaceX and the muskites.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:16:24 UTC No. 16475279
One of the experiments needed to be done on Moon and Mars is somehow get massive (how big?) glass or plastic, see through and or not, terrariums that are hooked with some of the proposed air and water production and filtration systems, climate control, plants, soils, fruits, vegetables, insects, worms, micro organisms, pools with water life, reptiles and small animals, with
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:25:57 UTC No. 16475285
>>16475232
>Eager uses 9 in his model because that's what Falcon 9 has.
Did you even watch the video?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:27:32 UTC No. 16475286
>>16475258
Blue and another unnamed launch provider.
>>16475260
Probably how AST is getting shit on in court trying to lawfare SpaceX.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:28:10 UTC No. 16475287
>>16475197
>he thinks I'm joking
>he doesn't know about the secret bi-yearly mars transfer maneuver
kek what an imbecile
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:30:09 UTC No. 16475290
>>16475287
It was a stupid thing to post because the mars base already has a population higher than that. It would be like saying I expect the US to have at least 300 million people by 2025
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:32:00 UTC No. 16475291
>>16474897
So they want to merge a F9 first stage with a NG first stage... as a second stage.... with hydrolox....
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:40:20 UTC No. 16475298
>>16475279
I bet cowgirl sex is mindblowing in lunar gravity
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:41:32 UTC No. 16475299
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/18
Airbus (government owned European defense company) says SpaceX would not pass antitrust in Europe
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:41:36 UTC No. 16475300
>>16475271
I think that hotter engines are able to direct more of the plasma in a narrower cone, thus requiring less cooling of the engine and funnel.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:42:37 UTC No. 16475302
>>16475298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77-
with compliments
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:46:43 UTC No. 16475307
>>16475299
America choose unequal sharing of blessings. Europe choose equal sharing of miseries.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:52:00 UTC No. 16475311
>>16475307
Let that sink in. Elon bros just keep winning, do we need to topple their governments too?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:53:12 UTC No. 16475312
https://spacenews.com/chinese-offic
China extending olive branch to US space exploration
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:53:51 UTC No. 16475313
>>16475312
Why didn't they offer this a month ago?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:54:36 UTC No. 16475314
>>16475313
New admin = new chance.
Biden door was closed, so they had no chance.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:55:55 UTC No. 16475315
>>16475314
And further its likely Trump's doors are also closed, but you dont know that if you dont try. It could possibly lead to some greater deal with Taiwan de-escalation, but I doubt it, still even if its 1%, its still a c hance
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:56:45 UTC No. 16475316
>>16475312
the answer is NO, but you can do some of the tedious manufacturing bits if you so like. as long as its really cheap
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:58:43 UTC No. 16475319
>>16475302
It was extremely, extremely, extremely dumb to use hair spray on this photoshoot.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:59:22 UTC No. 16475321
>>16475312
We should give china our weapons secrets.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:01:05 UTC No. 16475323
>>16475125
starship looks more natural with less side tiles desu
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:01:41 UTC No. 16475324
>>16475314
>New admin = new chance.
Trump is super hawkish towards China while Biden was happy to let them expand their influence
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:02:40 UTC No. 16475325
>>16475312
>be a "developing nation" that still recieves billions in aid every year from the west, but at the same time has a spaceprogram and the second largest militairy force in the world.
>be in a tradewar with the US&EU
>use the cartels to flood america with fentanyl
>have army of spies who are stealing US&EU tech so they can reverse engineer it.
>openly be hostile to a nation that produces most of the semiconducters of the world.
>etc....
>ask to join the international space program.
Wow, these guys should join, dont see any problem here.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:05:18 UTC No. 16475329
>>16475324
Biden has slanty eyes himself, those eyebrows creep me right the fuck out, especially in directional lighting
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:06:43 UTC No. 16475331
>>16475324
just simply not true
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:09:36 UTC No. 16475334
>>16475324
Hawkish just means more willing to leverage a trade deal properly. Its better than the stormy waves situation we have today while the president ignores the precarious situation as if nothing is happening due to his dementia. No president in the US will start a war with China, only a delusional would think that is the case here. So hawkishness is just leverage in this case, the potential for change. Trump wants something.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:10:44 UTC No. 16475337
>>16475325
JFK suggested cooperation with the Soviets on a manned lunar mission.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:14:57 UTC No. 16475343
>>16475327
Both Faury and the xigger are right. There is nothing of value in europe.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:16:48 UTC No. 16475345
>>16475337
JFK suggested a lot of things that got him killed by the CIA.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:17:55 UTC No. 16475348
>>16475266
I can't keep track of all the different fuels: qrd on different fuel combos and their advantages and disadvantages?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:20:51 UTC No. 16475352
>>16475345
Trump is restructuring CIA. He has a target on his back. So does Musk right now.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:21:42 UTC No. 16475354
>>16475279
>glass or plastic
Or whatever habitat/base materials planned to be used actually, I just thought terrariums are usually glass and to see in but now I see there's no need for that, mini version of the materials people may someday being using, and set up many live feed cameras inside
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:24:15 UTC No. 16475359
>>16475352
Trump is going to leave the CIA alone, and trump will not release the JFK files.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:25:15 UTC No. 16475362
>>16475348
>hydrazine
>kerolox
>hydrolox
>methalox
4 options, exceedingly complex and risky
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:30:25 UTC No. 16475371
>>16475122
>pathetic
>>pathetic
>>>pathetic
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:32:05 UTC No. 16475374
>>16475253
I'd kind of like the reality where BO got off the ground already.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:33:40 UTC No. 16475378
>>16475299
Airbus is not government owned
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:34:58 UTC No. 16475379
>>16475279
>>16475354
It was already tried and it failed spectacularly. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bio
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:35:32 UTC No. 16475382
>>16475348
>>16475362
and a bunch of other fun fuels
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:37:49 UTC No. 16475385
>>16475327
>>16475299
Euros are so dumb omg
>>16475033
ESA scaled SUSIE down in this infographic? kek
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:38:28 UTC No. 16475386
>>16475378
>Directly
11% French
11% German
5% Spanish
And further many other shares are probably partially owned by these as well through partial ownerships
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:40:43 UTC No. 16475388
>>16475122
>>16475371
someone needs to draw this pic with anime girls
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:45:43 UTC No. 16475393
>>16475379
Yeah that was a while ago, people here talk seriously and non chalantly about oxygen and water production in Moon and Mars habitat like it's walk in the park in the next few years. Put those water, air, climate systems, (food) on a scaled down habitat, with plants, ponds life, insects, reptiles, micro organisms, small mamals, and hook live video feeds all over it, and sensors etc. By this time next year at least 3 of these should be on the moon, year and a half or 2 years if needed. What is timeline for people on moon? How is robotics and 3d printing, and modular habitat air tight construct ability? Where are the moon landing, and these terrarium location candidates, what's to consider, temperature shielding, stabilizing it to ground, solar panels all on the outside.
Also there should be a large tight knit very tight knit cage fenced off area, where a bunch of soil and plants and insects and micro organisms are filled up in, with tiny tiny hole maybe 1 or 2, access to moon vacuum, just to see what would happen?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:56:35 UTC No. 16475412
Dude builds propane/oxygen pulse detonation engine, claims 500+ isp
https://youtu.be/RVETCyR-CoM?t=1758
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:57:46 UTC No. 16475415
Reddit says it's unlikely for the launch to be on Monday.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:03:14 UTC No. 16475424
>>16475415
Just take you estrogen on time, and Reddit will be okay
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:11:15 UTC No. 16475433
>>16475393
wut is blud waffling about :skull:
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:11:23 UTC No. 16475434
>>16475415
Why would I care what reddit thinks? I'm not on reddit, I'm on 4chan, I care what 4chan thinks not reddit. If I wanted to hear what those losers thought I'd go there myself.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:14:47 UTC No. 16475438
>>16475434
those were simpler times, back beforeanyone hknew what a piping plover was, back when the environmentlist FUD was about how grasshopper was disturbing cows
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:20:30 UTC No. 16475441
>>16475438
does anyone have the picture of the plover with superheavy in the background?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:31:44 UTC No. 16475452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mro
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:32:26 UTC No. 16475453
>>16475258
Jeff's Budget (getting paid for testing OMG WE'RE LIKE SPACEX!!!) Launches.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:36:52 UTC No. 16475457
>>16475258
When do the astroonomers start complaining about them blocking out stars?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:37:01 UTC No. 16475459
>>16475434
>the cows are confused
haha
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:37:43 UTC No. 16475460
>>16474717
Most pessimistic SpaceX fan
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:37:47 UTC No. 16475461
>>16475433
One of the cooler space experiments I could think of, and would be surprised if many wouldn't agree
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:46:20 UTC No. 16475469
>>16474780
I don't hate it. Does it have enough DeltaV to yeet Orion into NRHO or whatever Lunar orbit they wanna put Gateway in now?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:51:09 UTC No. 16475473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_8
nah what the hell bruh :skull:
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:52:23 UTC No. 16475475
Red White and Steel
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:54:10 UTC No. 16475477
fuck you
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:54:43 UTC No. 16475478
>>16475393
Water/air on Mars is basically solved as a technology problem, and any volume made habitable for people will also support your creepy crawlies. I'm not sure what there is to learn from what you describe
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:55:16 UTC No. 16475479
you fuck
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:55:32 UTC No. 16475480
>>16475474
Vertical red and white bars.
The sun confirmed original 13 colonies fan.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:55:46 UTC No. 16475481
>>16475415
Reddit says communism is great
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:56:17 UTC No. 16475482
fou yuck
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:56:23 UTC No. 16475483
>>16475480
where is the blue rectangle with the stars in it then? jackass.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:57:16 UTC No. 16475486
>>16475483
retarded gorilla nigger.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:01:34 UTC No. 16475489
>>16475487
What a gay looking launch complex. Still can't beleive this washed up company never delivered the falcon 5 family. What's the point?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:03:58 UTC No. 16475490
>>16475487
How big will Starbase get?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:07:06 UTC No. 16475492
>>16475490
It will begin growing exponentially
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:08:05 UTC No. 16475493
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:11:39 UTC No. 16475495
>>16475490
>>16475492
Its trapped between SPI and Mexico, it can grow a bit more, but I think 4 towers is about the max.
Only one orbital inclination is available from there, which sucks. And its not a friendly site for just manufacture and export. Its R&D with some launch capability too, but SpaceX needs not only Florida but also some willing partners (Australia, please?)
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:15:01 UTC No. 16475499
>>16475495
how the fuck are they suppsoed to get ships to australia jackass?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:15:08 UTC No. 16475500
>>16475495
When the United States invades Mexico to end the cartels, Elon will be awarded some additional formerly Mexican land adjacent to Starbase which he can expand into.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:17:13 UTC No. 16475502
>>16475499
Fly them there
>inb4 E2E is a meme
"NO!"
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:18:23 UTC No. 16475505
>>16475502
how about the boosters incel?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:23:18 UTC No. 16475509
>>16475502
dont fuk with me btw, i reallywould appreciate if you dont fuck with me.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:27:19 UTC No. 16475511
>>16475505
RTLS, dumdum.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:34:01 UTC No. 16475515
>>16475511
what about the hot stage ring? asshole.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:35:00 UTC No. 16475516
>>16475515
I'll let you know when SpaceX figures it out.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:36:43 UTC No. 16475520
>>16474781
I know the mark of a bear paw when I see it. They're fighting space bears and hiding it from the taxpayer. Is the ISS in danger of bear attack? Who put these bears in space? Are the bears communists?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:46:00 UTC No. 16475530
>>16475520
Cease your baseless inquiries into this subject at once.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:51:40 UTC No. 16475533
>>16475285
Yes, I did. Weeks ago. Apparently I nevertheless remember it's contents better than you.
>You may be wondering why the magic number is nine. I chose nine because we know that Falcon 9 is single-engine redundant.
@ 7:32 in that video
If you happened to make a seven engine rocket that had a redundant engine, then the "magic number" would be 7 rather than 9. If your rocket had 12 engines but only one redundant, then the magic number for that rocket would be 12, not 9.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:53:53 UTC No. 16475534
>>16475253
why? If that was the case we still wouldn't have the ability to launch our own astronauts
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:54:42 UTC No. 16475535
fuck you (in a good way)
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:12:05 UTC No. 16475543
>>16475535
thanks mate, i needed that
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:12:12 UTC No. 16475544
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:18:43 UTC No. 16475546
>>16475258
cant wait for the future asstroonomer seething and shitting as we build countless concentric dyson swarms around the gay Earth
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:20:15 UTC No. 16475550
Why haven't they made a starlink style weather satellite constellation? Or are the current handfull good enough?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:20:42 UTC No. 16475551
>>16475266
Lookin good
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:23:02 UTC No. 16475553
>>16475520
Space Bears are not a problem. They keep the Moon Bunny population in check.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:26:16 UTC No. 16475555
>>16475551
why is his body so small? and why can I instantly clock him as a homosexual even though he's not public about it?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:28:23 UTC No. 16475556
>>16475544
hmmmmmmmm no
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:29:35 UTC No. 16475558
>>16475552
are they going to destack it for fts or has that already been done?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:31:32 UTC No. 16475559
>>16475555
soft estrogen face. he got them eyes
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:36:01 UTC No. 16475561
>>16475556
That's plenty big enough to fit a hotstage ring, maybe 2
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:36:07 UTC No. 16475562
>>16475556
ship is as two pieces then weld it on arrival
ez pz
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:49:04 UTC No. 16475570
TONIGHT, ON BOTTOM GEAR
>Richard survives a launch abort!
>"WELL THIS CERTAINLY IS SOME HORSEPOWER ISN'T IT"
>cut to Soyuz launch escape tower igniting at max Q
>James attempts to start a rocket engine!
>"Lads, I think it must be a bit damp."
>cut to green TEA/TEB flash and James being annihilated by a Merlin exhaust plume
>and I test drive the new Boeing Starliner!
>"It seems we've developed a loss of power, something must be cocked up
with the forward thrusters."
>cut to Starliner motionless outside the ISS and unable to dock
>All this and more tonight on Bottom Gear!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:50:11 UTC No. 16475573
>>16475570
when's the mars special coming out
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:52:32 UTC No. 16475576
>>16475570
What da stig doing?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:54:56 UTC No. 16475579
>>16475300
hmmmmm
no, you've totally misunderstood thermodynamics, go back to school kid
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:56:54 UTC No. 16475582
>>16475300
>>16475579
This is the rocket equivalent of thinking cold water boils faster than hot water.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:00:23 UTC No. 16475586
>>16475576
>Some say he's able to generate thrust by reflecting microwaves inside his helmet in a way that violates the law of conservation of momentum,
>and that he actually set foot on the moon shortly before Neil Armstrong, but immediately reentered the lander, finding the surface of the moon to be uncomfortably chilly.
>All we know is, he's called Alexstig Leonstignov.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:05:41 UTC No. 16475593
>>16475553
>Space Bear Propaganda
Пocт лaпa, звepь.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:06:53 UTC No. 16475596
get hyped
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:07:21 UTC No. 16475597
>>16475581
spacex has really sped up the stacking process. look at that ship zoom
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:08:46 UTC No. 16475598
>>16475582
THE INVERSE MPEMBA EFFECT IS VERY REAL AND I WON'T BE CONVINCED OTHERWISE
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:11:45 UTC No. 16475600
>>16475490
Starbase Starfactory is the prototype. The Roberts Road facility has nearly twice as much land under SpaceX's control and the factory there has the potential to get to be as half as big as Giga Austin. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the decade or by mid decade next, SpaceX will build an actual Gigafactory Austin sized facility for Starship/SuperHeavy production as they ramp the sheer volume of Crew and Moonships.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:13:13 UTC No. 16475602
>>16475581
>new upgrade to Mechazilla now allow SpaceX to launch Starship in a new flight profile that allows it to clear the tower without igniting its engines, reach a height of half a kilometer before ignition occurs, allowing SpaceX to shave hundreds of metric tons of fuel, paving the way to a new era of reusability
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:14:42 UTC No. 16475604
>>16475602
Slinglaunch 2025
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:19:03 UTC No. 16475605
>>16475474
sons of liberty
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:19:09 UTC No. 16475606
>>16475604
>who needs raptors when you have a million autists pulling back on a slingshot to punt a Starship into low OP's mom's orbit
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:21:14 UTC No. 16475608
https://twitter.com/danpiemont/stat
ABL space stops its orbital launch activities to focus on missile defense.
No RS-1 ever cleared its pad. Reminder ABL had a 58 launches contract from Lockheed..
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:21:59 UTC No. 16475610
>>16475608
who?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:27:44 UTC No. 16475616
3 days
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:33:42 UTC No. 16475625
>>16475610
ABL - A Bitch of Lockheed
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:34:13 UTC No. 16475628
>>16475608
Smart. Smallaunch isn't a completely dead market segment yet but it only gets harder to break into with each passing year. Meanwhile, there's a desperate demand for anything that's remotely SM-3 equivilant. This is the best move they could have possibly made given current circumstances
Still sucks that we'll never get to see any good RS-1 launch footage
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:43:48 UTC No. 16475639
>>16475457
>When do the astroonomers start complaining about them blocking out stars?
funny how they're silent about the chinese satellites even though they're some of the brightest
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:48:01 UTC No. 16475642
intuitive machines demands more gibs, says artemis should focus on unmanned missions first
https://spacenews.com/intuitive-mac
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:48:50 UTC No. 16475643
>>16475608
Absolute bankruptcy looming
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:55:48 UTC No. 16475647
>>16475600
>Starbase Starfactory is the prototype
This fucking company man
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:00:06 UTC No. 16475649
>>16475478
>I'm not sure what there is to learn from what you describe
What they would be like with moon gravity, just how their biology and the terrarium biosphere would function over time, how plants would react to the differing sun light.
In the other experiment with just plant matters and microbes, small holes in the container, to see what leaked out, precursor to the possibility of atmosphere generation at all, or if the tiniest of holes allowing access to moons vacua, would disrupt the functioning of terrarium cylinder A vs complete enclosed cylinder B.
Maybe there are automatic shades that allow differing amount of sun light.
Yeah really just to see how a terrarium bio of a variety of earthly life forms would function over, months, years, while boxly attached to the moons surface.
The other simpler version, with holes sensor monitor at the holes what kind of interaction is going on there.
Test the habitat tech of oxygen and water and climate control, I mean how automated are those things planned to be, press on and they run smoothly for months straight?
A pond in the terrariums, how will fish do, a fenced in section garden bed open to moon air of plants, that are fed water and soil nutrients, co2 from underneath, see how they do.
Okay it may all be stupid pointless idea, but I thought there was something to it.
Yeah it's a pointless idea.
Is there fear of contaminating the moon, could micro organisms multiply there and take over, what can be used to terraform?
We have a c02 problem, ship it all to the moon, to the miles long plant beds that are seeped co2 from underneath,
Okay I'm back to thinking terrarium might be cool, my only problem was I was thinking too small.
100 x 100 x 100 yd rainforest jungle, that is see through, hooked up with vid cams, but maybe also can be seen vines on trees through a glass cube from earth telescope.
No it's all dumb
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:02:39 UTC No. 16475652
>>16475642
IM is based so I'm cool with this
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:04:34 UTC No. 16475655
Trump on Elon
>he likes this place. I can't get him out of here!
it's over, the feud has started
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:06:22 UTC No. 16475658
>>16475655
Felonbros...
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:09:02 UTC No. 16475663
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:09:03 UTC No. 16475664
>>16475647
orbital propellant depot v1 prototype test article
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:14:45 UTC No. 16475668
>>16475642
where's that moonlink elooooooooooon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:15:11 UTC No. 16475670
>>16475608
>However, over the past few years, we’ve seen our ability to make a meaningful impact in the launch industry diminish. Take a look around. U.S. rockets fly every couple of days, with perfect success. It’s revolutionary. While there is still a need for more providers in certain market segments, those opportunities are decreasing. To succeed in such a demanding effort as scaling up an orbital launch program, you need deep motivation around your mission and potential impact, from many stakeholders. As the launch market matured, those motivations thinned and our path to making a big contribution as a commercial launch company narrowed considerably.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:15:19 UTC No. 16475671
>>16475608
Will be folded into Lockheed Marin right?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:21:41 UTC No. 16475676
>>16475647
Elon said that Tesla's biggest advantage is their manufacturing capability and not specifically their EV tech. Elon routinely cross pollinates talent from Tesla into SpaceX and vice-versa to augment and accelerate projects. Tesla also uses each factory as basically a CICD pipeline, learning from failures and improving in the process. No two Tesla factories at the same. Freemonth led to Nevada which led to Shanghai, which led to Berlin, which led to Austin. Austin is their largest and most advanced and most modern factory yet. SpaceX is following the same playbook. You can think of Starbase, Texas as the equivalent of Freemont where like the Model 3 production, they were building everything in tents. They've now completed the tent phase and are about to enter the proper factory phase. That's v1.0 aka Freemont aka Starbase. Roberts Road will be equivalent to Giga Shanghai. If they ever build a third Starfactory, say in Maine for example (as it's towards the north most tip of the US and closer to polar orbit launch profiles), we'll basically see a factory in vein of either Berlin or Austin.
Like 4-5 years ago, Elon tweeted that he's playing Factorio on speedrun, in real life. All behavior with Tesla and SpaceX completely tracks with that sentiment. Hell, take the new X/Ai data center that was built in Memphis, Tennessee. They built a 100,000 H100 GPU datacenter for model training in 122 days. Jensen Huang literally in an interview said that it takes on average about 4 years to do the same. While the DC in this case is exclusive for this startup and not a general purpose, so a lot of qualification and certification was skipped, it's nonetheless quite ridiculous. It also is first principles design. They didn't have 100MW of power available, so they bought NatGas turbine plants on site to even out the power until they got approved for more. Then they got milisecond power issues during training ramp, so they bought in 100MW megapacks to streamline the power.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:24:26 UTC No. 16475679
>>16475676
>>16475647
So much so that Sam Altman abjectly panicked and went to Microsoft's board demanding they move just as quickly. There's like a dozen other startups now demanding that when DCs are built, natgas turbines are bought on site to accelerate design, build, and success rate. And that eventually tap into Tesla megapacks too, in order to streamline power delivery so inconsistent power delivery during training ramp when GPUs massively scale up power until they normalize is addressed. The sheer degree of optimizations at every level involved are insane, and this guy just keeps pushing the boundary ever forward. It's hard to extrapolate where SpaceX and Tesla and other Elon ventures will be in 10 years, because practically ever year, they reinvent the wheel and make it something radically newer and better to the degree that the competition keeps shitting and pissing their pants, falling over to try to catch up what they pulled off last year.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:25:35 UTC No. 16475681
>>16475676
>Tesla also uses each factory as basically a CICD pipeline
but teslas change much less than other makes of car over time? or do you mean a cicd pipeline for factory design?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:26:59 UTC No. 16475683
>>16475664
I've seen this before
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:27:50 UTC No. 16475684
>>16475681
CiCD of the factory itself. Tesla treats the factory as a whole as just another piece of software that needs to be tested, in a pipeline, and optimized over time. Most car companies have a factory design and they copy pasta it all over the world, optimizing it minimally to account for supply chain constraints. Tesla says "fuck that, each factory is an opportunity to fully refactor the ENTIRE design, and so we will, and anyone that disagrees is fired and asked to fuck off the premises."
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:31:05 UTC No. 16475686
MY SHIT IS FUCKING YELLOWWWW MY SHIT IS FFFFUUUUCKINGGG YEELLLLLOOOOOWWWWW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:32:00 UTC No. 16475687
>>16475681
>but teslas change much less than other makes of car over time
They change from literally month to month. Teslas from Jan aren't same as Teslas from December and like from July/Aug or so. Even though they keep the old model number arch that cars use, the starting year tesla and ending year Tesla are different.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:36:53 UTC No. 16475691
Uhhh I think Elon is acting Secretary of State rn
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:38:35 UTC No. 16475695
>>16475681
where did you even hear that? there is some youtube guy who does teardowns if you're actually interested but it changes all the time.
>Munro Live
major changes (like 48V or switching to ethernet communication) are by per vehicle line though. though sometimes not like how they started gigacasting parts for the model 3 without changing the name
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:38:47 UTC No. 16475696
>>16475691
It honestly breaks every precedent in the book and as much as he's capable, he needs to cut that shit out. If he tries to fly too high by himself, his wings of wax will burn and he'll plummet.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:41:40 UTC No. 16475698
>>16475691
>>16475696
The Trump Administration doesn't take power until Inauguration Day on January 20th, and has no actual political power until then. If it somehow actually got to that point, Elon wouldn't be acting anything until then.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:43:15 UTC No. 16475699
>>16474879
you could die tomorrow
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:44:27 UTC No. 16475701
>>16475681
Tesla doesn't have annual model releases or refreshes like other OEMs, because they continuously iterate on the vehicles. The only time major architecture changes occur is when they do half-decade model refreshes. Model 3 came out in 2018, they refreshed it in 2023. Model Y came out in 2019, they are refreshing it next year. Model X doesn't really get refreshes, but it does get improvements made from lessons learned from the Model 3 and Y lines. Model S is basically a skunkworks project in Tesla. Their top talent all works on it, and the all basically use that platform and architecture to push the physical limit and the bleeding edge of tech to try out all kindsa batshit ideas. Some work, others don't. What works is sold to customers, and then those ideas are trickled down into the Model 3 and Y lines for mass market production/optimization. The Model 3 motor for example, is the mass production version of the Model S motor and the Model Y motor is the same motor. Fun fact, the electric motors that control the gridfins on the super heavy booster and the flaps on the Starship, are Model 3 motors.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:44:29 UTC No. 16475702
>>16475698
he's been present for high profile callsz ukraine discussion, and now met with iranian officials. and with the president of argentina. this seems a little more than just DOGE. US goveenment is becoming his new X
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:44:42 UTC No. 16475703
>>16474780
it's sad performance art
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:47:48 UTC No. 16475704
>>16475691
more like a chief of staff during the transition period as they usually are the ones who have their hand on the political pulse. for whatever trump wants elon around for that
>>16475702
oh wait you're some kind of retard so nvm. dutch maybe?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:50:23 UTC No. 16475706
>>16475448
How would they qualify as a monopoly when all the other players just suck so bad that no one wants to use them (and it's not the fault of spacex), or in some cases no one else is even trying to do the things that they're doing
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:53:28 UTC No. 16475708
>>16475704
he's secretary of trump actually. trump's butler. what a chump
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:04:07 UTC No. 16475724
>>16475696
Fuck off and go concern troll somewhere else
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:26:52 UTC No. 16475732
spaceflight?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:31:05 UTC No. 16475737
>>16475732
would you settle for rocket girls?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:33:28 UTC No. 16475739
>>16475737
if spacex catches starship first try i will do a cum tribute on my starship torch and face reveal
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:57:57 UTC No. 16475748
>>16475696
>Muh wax wings
>t. person who hasn’t even been to orbit.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:05:18 UTC No. 16475753
>>16475655
>>16475658
Elon should ask to be made the DARPA director.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:08:13 UTC No. 16475755
>>16475753
He will be Secretary on UFOS/USOS
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:19:25 UTC No. 16475761
>>16475655
Felonious Moskal Husk needs to learn to respect peoples boundaries.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:24:45 UTC No. 16475764
why isnt HLS vac engines only? You could fit 7 of them right?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:30:07 UTC No. 16475768
Weather still looking good, a bit windy maybe.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:40:14 UTC No. 16475773
>>16474780
We don't fucking know. Bezos' paranoia means we have no fucking idea what capabilities it has.
45 tonnes to LEO when discarding second stage? Wow, that's a whopping 10% improvement over Falcon Heavy.
Apparently it's going to cost less to launch than a Falcon 9.
I hear you can collapse the whole thing down and carry it around in your pocket.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:46:52 UTC No. 16475778
>>16475520
He is literally the bear hunter
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:59:44 UTC No. 16475788
>>16475737
she looks a little uggo, but that plane is well drawn, very sexy
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:14:01 UTC No. 16475790
>>16475764
The bottom of the LOX tank is domed, you can't fit an rvac in the center. There's no justification for having 6 rvacs either, the thrust isn't necessary. 3 sea level raptors are overkill too, it's just you wouldn't want to all lose all thrust vectoring if your only one failed.
In the ballpark of masses we expect from HLS the 3 or so extra seconds of Isp you get from 3 extra rvacs aren't worth it, assuming 3 sea level raptors are firing at 40% thrust the entire time. It nets a loss in performance from the dry mass gain.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:14:54 UTC No. 16475791
>>16475593
That bear is very clearly Chinese.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:17:22 UTC No. 16475793
>>16475764
Would there be room for gimbaling?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:30:16 UTC No. 16475798
after this flight its on to V2 starship, with orbital to come. next year is going to be so fucking hype bros
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:52:45 UTC No. 16475808
>>16475764
>a hydrolox raptor
I wonder what would have to change aside from the name
The expansion ratio would be different, the stochiometry would be off, etc
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:58:14 UTC No. 16475811
>>16475702
Musk was merting with heads of state like milei before getting involved in politics explicitly
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 08:28:46 UTC No. 16475824
>>16475764
Vacuum vs sealevel nozzle is not a big deal, they fly Falcon 9 second stage with a short nozzle if they don't need full thrust.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:13:41 UTC No. 16475852
>>16475842
He would never
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:16:16 UTC No. 16475853
>>16475842
Also I cant tell is this Nelson or Trump
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:18:06 UTC No. 16475854
>>16475692
shit happens
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:18:46 UTC No. 16475855
>>16475854
Poopsie
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:20:46 UTC No. 16475856
>>16475821
Fits inside Starship
No ground prep required
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:30:18 UTC No. 16475861
>>16475352
>Trump is restructuring CIA
lmfao
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:05:46 UTC No. 16475871
>>16475570
>bottom gear
>not max Q
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:10:38 UTC No. 16475875
>>16475499
>how the fuck are they suppsoed to get ships to australia jackass?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:27:21 UTC No. 16475885
>>16475871
Come on man
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:11:16 UTC No. 16475929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGK
>Starship Flight 6 Approaches: Timeline, Tests & The Road Ahead!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:29:33 UTC No. 16475954
>>16475593
>>16475791
Russki bear save money buying space suit from Aliexpress.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:50:24 UTC No. 16475970
>>16475790
Not what you were talking about but this triggered me. My autism cant get over the fact that Starship combines sea level and vacuum engines firing at the same time. It should be one type of engine per stage, as God intended.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:54:56 UTC No. 16475976
I hate that there are some non white people who are into starship. Like, just be into basket ball or something, sweaty.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:59:49 UTC No. 16475978
>>16475976
There is over a billion chinese people into starship.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:17:40 UTC No. 16475985
>only 4 starship launches this year
>would've been 3 if the FAA had their way
spacex has alot of catching up to do
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:26:24 UTC No. 16475991
>>16475985
The rest of the world has some catching up to do
The Chinese are just now testing their first hoppers, that's where SpaceX was 12 years ago
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:32:42 UTC No. 16475996
>>16475979
no, he is going to cut the regulation
not capture it
anybody can compete, the fact that Musk can outcompete everyone doesn't make it regulatory capture
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:32:54 UTC No. 16475997
>>16475992
lmfao
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:40:35 UTC No. 16476003
>>16475670
>Being honest with the reality the situation rather than coping and seething or hiding about corpospeak
Honestly? Sorta refreshing.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:46:54 UTC No. 16476011
>In the United States, Office of Inspector General (OIG) is a generic term for the oversight division of a federal or state agency aimed at preventing inefficient or unlawful operations within their parent agency. Such offices are attached to many federal executive departments, independent federal agencies, as well as state and local governments. Each office includes an inspector general (or IG) and employees charged with identifying, auditing, and investigating fraud, waste, abuse, embezzlement and mismanagement of any kind within the executive department.
Does Elon even know about this? It's like everyone forgot we already have an office responsible for government efficiency. You just need to give it more power.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:50:59 UTC No. 16476016
>>16476011
He wants to be like Milei. Afuera!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJF
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:17:27 UTC No. 16476045
>Impulse Space buys three Falcon 9 launches
>WASHINGTON — Impulse Space has purchased three Falcon 9 launches for its Helios transfer vehicle for missions starting in 2026, including one for the Space Force.
>Impulse Space announced Nov. 14 that it signed a contract with SpaceX for the Falcon 9 launches. Each launch will carry the company’s Helios transfer vehicle, a high-energy kick stage the company introduced in January to transport payloads quickly between orbits.
>The first launch, planned for mid-2026, will be the first flight of Helios. The transfer vehicle will transport the company’s smaller Mira vehicle, carrying a commercial optical payload, from low Earth orbit to geostationary transfer orbit on the Victus Surgo mission for the Space Force and Defense Innovation Unit. Impulse Space received a $34.5 million contract for Victus Surgo and another mission, Victus Salo, Oct. 3. Impulse Space said the schedule and payloads for the other two Helios launches will be determined later.
>“Securing these launches allows us to showcase the full potential of Helios,” Eric Romo, president and chief operating officer of Impulse Space, said in a company statement. “Delivering spacecraft to high energy orbits rapidly and economically changes the equation for commercial communication operators and national security missions like Victus Surgo.”
>Helios is powered by a liquid-oxygen, liquid-methane engine called Deneb that produces 15,000 pounds-force of thrust. Impulse Space separately unveiled a developmental version of Deneb Nov. 14, claiming that the engine is “one of the highest-performing liquid oxygen/liquid methane engines” developed. The company said tests of Deneb will begin soon.
https://spacenews.com/impulse-space
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:19:49 UTC No. 16476051
>>16476016
I can't help but notice that most of those right-wing politicians are often frauds.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:23:27 UTC No. 16476056
>>16476011
It doesn't spell DOGE so Elon wanted his own.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:37:03 UTC No. 16476068
>>16476056
So it's just a shitcoin grift?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:40:06 UTC No. 16476073
>>16476011
Everyone with 100+ IQ knew that DOGE was just a sandbox for Elon + Vivek to play around in while real politicians got to work.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:41:15 UTC No. 16476074
>>16476069
>31 views
>Literally who's in a slap fight on twitter
Why are you sharing this with us.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:42:28 UTC No. 16476076
>>16476073
Elon will have egg on his face when this admin is busienss as usual. he promised so much.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:43:29 UTC No. 16476078
>>16476074
Bottom one is a better source on spaceflight developments than Eric Berger.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:46:26 UTC No. 16476080
>>16476074
There are a lot of people here who derive their worth from shitting on sub 90 IQ people.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:47:23 UTC No. 16476081
>>16476073
>autist gets fooled by evil policians
Sad to see
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:51:19 UTC No. 16476085
>>16476073
It's a way for him to waste a lot of time
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:58:13 UTC No. 16476094
>>16476025
kino
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:58:16 UTC No. 16476095
Hey you retards and faggots, what's happening with spaceflight this morning
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:59:03 UTC No. 16476096
>>16476086
Inspiring anon. Thank you
(Will delete in a sec cause off topic)
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:03:02 UTC No. 16476099
>>16476095
Only Long March-7 Y9 • Tianzhou-8 in one hour or so.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:04:32 UTC No. 16476100
>>16476069
Yeah now he’s just completely making stuff up. Claiming HLS as the main bottleneck for Artemis is a great litmus test for low IQ.
Pathetic, really!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:06:10 UTC No. 16476102
>>16476095
another Starlink probably idk
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:06:26 UTC No. 16476103
>>16476080
Mad?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:06:59 UTC No. 16476104
>>16476069
This is a really gay post format.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:10:12 UTC No. 16476109
>>16476081
>"I don't start fights but I finish them"
If he gets cockblocked...is he going to go nuclear?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:11:12 UTC No. 16476111
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:11:33 UTC No. 16476112
>>16476109
Trump has all the power. He is president and could bankrupt Musk tomorrow.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:15:06 UTC No. 16476114
>>16475076
They could spend tens of billions making something else that's even more useless out of it and call it Sunk Cost Station.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:20:18 UTC No. 16476116
>>16476109
he'll go solar
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:21:55 UTC No. 16476119
>>16476109
He'll fold, like a good servant. Last time he got too cocky, he had to undergo a whole humiliation ritual.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:22:49 UTC No. 16476120
>>16476078
Reminder that spaceguy5 thought bergers scoop about starliner was just deliberate nasa disinfo to weed out leakers.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:23:18 UTC No. 16476122
>>16476109
He'll drop to his knees like last time
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:24:09 UTC No. 16476125
>>16476120
it was. Patriots are in control.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:24:36 UTC No. 16476126
>inb4 spacex goes sideways because elon is too busy playing in his sandbox
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:25:39 UTC No. 16476128
>>16476125
>starliner didn't actually return without crew
Who was in it when it landed then?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:26:22 UTC No. 16476129
>>16476128
the ghost of ISS
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:27:39 UTC No. 16476131
>>16476128
they gave the crew treat by leaving them on the station.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:30:55 UTC No. 16476135
>>16476125
>Patriots are in control.
Where? Because you're definitely not talking about America.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:39:58 UTC No. 16476147
>>16476094
I take a long look at a fully stacked starship with objects for scale nearby and can't help but it's just not that big
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:42:01 UTC No. 16476149
>>16476094
that poor bird
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:42:36 UTC No. 16476152
>>16476147
elon fellators will seethe, but he's right
should have built a 27m starship instead
this pencil rocket is just too tiny to be of any use
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:43:52 UTC No. 16476158
>>16476152
try 64m, Zubrin
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:44:02 UTC No. 16476159
>>16476152
why did they not change back to 12m when they decided to switch to stainless steel??
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:47:15 UTC No. 16476163
>>16476158
>he's still measuring his rockets in meters
quitter attitude
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:47:49 UTC No. 16476166
>>16476149
Its not like the birds cant hear the propellant farm kick into high gear, the ultra-loud venting from the subcoolers and other equipment.
Birds have wings for a reason, they can fucking leave if something starts happening.
It takes hours to fill this fucking thing, if they want to stay in the blasted zone, no tears shed, thats just a dumb animal.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:47:57 UTC No. 16476167
Joos in spess when?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:50:15 UTC No. 16476171
>>16475985
>would've been 3 if the FAA had their way
nah, if it had been a late november Flight 5 they would have replaced tiles on S31, static fired B13 before it, and Flight 5->6 would have had a slightly shorter turnaroudn, a month max, would have been tight but feasible to fit in december.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:51:00 UTC No. 16476173
>>16476167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZ
We're Jews out in space
We're zooming along
protecting the Hebrew race
We're Jews out in space
If trouble appears
we put it right back in its place
When goyim attack us
We give 'em a smack
we'll slap them right back in the face
We're Jews out in space
We're zooming along
protecting the Hebrew race
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:52:10 UTC No. 16476174
>>16476159
Retardation.
Elon was probably demon mode and demanded they build it asap no matter the diameter. Not switching up was a HUGE mistake, likely the biggest of the whole program. Realistically they should have gone at least 18m because it plays bigly into the strengths of stainless. Stainless is easy to build with but much lower performance than carbon composite, so there is no reason for the vehicle to not be COLOSSAL when made of stainless.
Not to mention that HLS starship is doomed dueto insanely low tolerance to uneven landing ground, thanks to the pencil shape.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:55:31 UTC No. 16476176
>>16476011
they aren't doing their job or have no actual authority to do anything about the fraud and waste they see
OIG keeps writing reports about how incompetent Boeing is with respect to SLS, how retarded the tower building is for SLS and the problems with Orion
over and over and over again they keep doing these reports
nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:55:51 UTC No. 16476178
>>16476167
*ahem*
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:57:31 UTC No. 16476179
If Starship was giga wide, just how many engines would it have? It already has 33 with the current diameter
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:57:55 UTC No. 16476180
>>16476179
33, you just make them really big.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:57:58 UTC No. 16476181
>>16476045
this kills the Vulcan high energy cope
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:58:58 UTC No. 16476184
>>16476069
lmao I can't wait to see what kind of meltdown he has when SLS is actually cancelled
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:59:09 UTC No. 16476186
>>16476179
no need to add more if its short and wide
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:59:36 UTC No. 16476187
>>16476179
ITS config at 12m
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:59:59 UTC No. 16476188
>>16476073
no
when will you retards learn?
dont bet against Elon Musk
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:00:23 UTC No. 16476189
>>16476179
18m starship would have ~130
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:02:07 UTC No. 16476192
>>16476189
>27 meter Starship with 200 engines
das it mane
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:02:25 UTC No. 16476193
>>16476179
shorter and wider starship would weigh slightly less, less skin for the same volume
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:02:49 UTC No. 16476194
>>16476188
Anon... This is the logo. You might as well go out and buy bingus token.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:02:50 UTC No. 16476195
>>16476192
fucking imagine
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:03:40 UTC No. 16476197
>>16476194
>unpaid job that you can only get if you have blue checkmark on twitter
amazing
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:03:53 UTC No. 16476198
>>16476192
27m starship would have ~300
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:04:20 UTC No. 16476199
>>16476174
I mean, what's the difficulty if they decided to switch back now? is stage zero really that hard to build? or is it because the foundation of a new launch tower will take too long to cure? they already have all the knowledge, they just have to scale it up.
>inb4 it's not that easy
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:05:20 UTC No. 16476204
>>16476109
cockblocked by whom? House? the obstructionists will have a Musk backed candidate running against them in their districts
Senate? probably depends on when the senators term is ending, some of them will have 6 fresh years now so perhaps Musk has already lost interest at that point if SpaceX and his other companies aren't getting fucked with at that point, but for the senators with 2 years to go before re-election, this backing of a rival candidate might happen
Trump? probably not go against him too explicitly but try to get a better aligned candidate running, but Trump going against Musk at this point really seems like a leftist power fantasy, its wishcasting
unlikely to happen, of course there are probably going to be some compromises but "cockblocked" implies getting stonewalled or something
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:06:21 UTC No. 16476207
>>16476126
like SpaceX went sideways when Musk bought twitter? lol
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:06:44 UTC No. 16476209
>>16476200
chinese rockets all look the same to me. i dont like their slitty little engines either.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:07:30 UTC No. 16476212
>>16476199
scale it up after it actually works
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:07:37 UTC No. 16476213
>>16476194
>You might as well go out and buy bingus token.
I don't keep money on the computers.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:08:36 UTC No. 16476215
>>16476204
>obstructionists will have a Musk backed candidate running against them in their districts
>Musk realized Soros did all that with 40x less money than he has
I'm about to get tired of winning.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:09:01 UTC No. 16476216
>>16476199
They might have knowledge but not time
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:09:16 UTC No. 16476218
>>16476174
you just don't understand priorization and iterative development
its easier to use the smaller 9 diameter vehicle as a development platform even if the ultimate goal is to have a bigger vehicle
when it works and a larger diameter seems necessary, then they just make a larger vehicle (and the necessary infrastructure)
its that fucking easy
meanwhile they can keep using the actually working 9m diameter rocket
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:10:06 UTC No. 16476219
>90m starship would have ~3300 engines
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:11:25 UTC No. 16476223
>>16476174
fuck off doomer
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:12:55 UTC No. 16476227
>>16476199
They have to redesign and rebuild everything. Switching diameter is hard and would take at least a year.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:14:24 UTC No. 16476232
>>16476200
>cargo
>4 boosters
Are they launching a module?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:15:25 UTC No. 16476234
>>16476192
imagine the beetles
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:15:27 UTC No. 16476235
>>16476218
>>16476223
>Just rebuild everything from scratch bro
>It's that easy bro
The reason they stickwith9m is sunk cost, and thecost gets sunk more and more the longer they go.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:15:29 UTC No. 16476236
>>16476232
Nah, just cargo ressuply, CZ-7 always has 4 2.25m diameter boosters
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:17:32 UTC No. 16476239
>>16476200
>tfw you'll never be part of a space station watch party
why even live
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:18:03 UTC No. 16476240
>>16476235
it is, it would just have been retarded to do some huge one first
even with this 9m one you lose 33 engines per booster, that might have actually been one of the main reasons to keep it at this size at least initially
the bigger the vehicle is, the more difficult everything becomes
more engines, might have to widen the roads, takes longer to build, makes more noise so enviromentalists cry more and on and on
this might be close to the MVP for a fully reusable vehicle with some appreciable mass to get things going
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:18:04 UTC No. 16476241
>>16476235
It's probably because even at 9m it will be excellent at launching starlinks
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:18:49 UTC No. 16476242
>>16476200
I like how Russians and Chinese keep yapping as if the power of their voice keeps the rocket going.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:19:18 UTC No. 16476243
>>16476209
Won't blame you, it's an acquired taste
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:19:27 UTC No. 16476244
>>16476194
how is that relevant in any way?
SpaceX just added a carboon banana to the booster
sillyness and effectiveness are uncorrelated
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:20:40 UTC No. 16476245
>>16475608
aNOTHER bANKRUPT lAUNCHER
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:21:07 UTC No. 16476246
>>16476227
so not really that hard at all
a year is nothing for a rocket program and they can do that parallel to actually launching stuff with the 9m starship
and again 9m is fine too, this whining is retarded
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:21:38 UTC No. 16476247
>>16476244
Silly on a massive rocket that actually is cool? Fine.
Silly on an advisory board that is clearly just for show and to placate the masses? Cringe.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:22:26 UTC No. 16476249
>>16476247
I'm glad we have (you) to tell us which is which
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:22:33 UTC No. 16476250
>>16476219
we need to go bigger
we have the technology
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:22:39 UTC No. 16476251
>>16476247
you are retarded
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:23:13 UTC No. 16476252
>>16476249
No problem anon, I know retards have a tough time with it.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:23:25 UTC No. 16476253
>>16476246
>9m is fine too
>this is fine
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:24:41 UTC No. 16476254
>>16476250
We need to go nigger?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:26:22 UTC No. 16476257
>>16476253
its still massive compared to anything right now and if they actually make it reusable, it will be much cheaper than anything right now, even F9
so yes its fine
what matters is the cost of mass to orbit, not some aestethic sense you have
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:26:54 UTC No. 16476260
>>16476240
>makes more noise so enviromentalists cry more
even sane people would get pissed at the sound levels a 18m+ launcher would produce at a high flight cadence
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:28:19 UTC No. 16476263
>>16476257
>having almost the same payload volume as new glenn fairing is fine
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:28:42 UTC No. 16476265
like think about the criticism here? the fully reusable rocket "only" has a cargo bay the size of 9m diameter x 10m height, can't fit anything useful into that no
and its going to take a WHOLE FUCKING YEAR
holy shit a fucking year, to build the necessary infrastructure for a fatter rocket
come on man
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:28:59 UTC No. 16476266
>>16476263
new glenn is pretty big too.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:29:55 UTC No. 16476267
>>16476263
yes, fully reusable MVP vehicle
its more than fine, its going to be so much better than anything out there
are there any payloads that are volume limited now?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:30:57 UTC No. 16476270
>>16476260
then those sane people should move
the US is a big place
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:32:38 UTC No. 16476273
>>16476265
AT LEAST a year, probably 3. How would theylaunch from 39-A while rebuilding the tower and pad etc.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:33:55 UTC No. 16476275
>>16476273
oh no a year, oh the humanity
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:34:50 UTC No. 16476276
>>16476267
Sure, but it's just going to be a starlink vehicle and the meme about the big payloads is just going to be a dream.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:35:29 UTC No. 16476278
>>16476250
A superheavy booster twice as wide as it is tall would be 8235 engines
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:37:07 UTC No. 16476281
>>16476276
what big, monolithic payloads?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:37:27 UTC No. 16476282
>>16475791
你才是熊!你全家都是熊!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:39:33 UTC No. 16476289
>>16476276
>>16476273
>>16476265
-What are the foreseeable future payload requirements?
-What are the max sizes of things desired to be starshipped over the next 7-10 years?
-How large of a payload cabin is required to achieve that?
How feasible is that scaling with how many engines required?
-Does the math say shapes and proportions will check out?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:39:35 UTC No. 16476290
>>16476284
retarded larp
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:40:36 UTC No. 16476293
>>16476011
You might have noticed that they accomplished fucking nothing.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:43:02 UTC No. 16476297
>>16476289
No one is going to be making big payloads if there's no vehicle to carry it
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:43:53 UTC No. 16476298
>>16476292
You might have noticed that they accomplished fucking nothing.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:45:42 UTC No. 16476299
>>16476290
Yeah they should implement your commie bullshit instead
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:46:15 UTC No. 16476301
>>16476299
They should focus on getting propellant transfer done lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:47:45 UTC No. 16476303
>>16476289
>No one is going to be making big payloads if there's no vehicle to carry it
>>16476297
If there is a sincere desire to build on the Moon, and Mars,
Oh I geuss the other thing is it doesn't matter if you make the payload chamber that much bigger, if you can launch 500 ships one after the other:
But it is still true, limited size limits the size of payload, but is there any advantage or case where you would want extremely large payload, instead of modules?
Large structures and tanks that currently do not fit in payload, that would be better than welding in space or on surface
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:49:33 UTC No. 16476304
>>16476278
do you even realize how long it would take to fuck each of those engines?
we're gonna need all anons from /sfg/, maybe even all of /sci/ to pitch in for this one
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:50:20 UTC No. 16476305
>>16476283
maybe its more fun than it looks
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:52:32 UTC No. 16476308
>>16476274
i thought spacex was already at $250 billion valuation, but either way, to the moon! literally.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:54:08 UTC No. 16476313
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century:
Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others;
Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected;
Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it;
Refusing to set aside trivial preferences;
Neglecting development and refinement of the mind;
Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
For there is but one essential justice which cements society, and one law which establishes this justice. This law is right reason, which is the true rule of all commandments and prohibitions. Whoever neglects this law, whether written or unwritten, is necessarily unjust and wicked.
Marcus Tullius Cicero,
The authority of those who teach is often an obstacle to those who want to learn.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
What is morally wrong can never be advantageous, even when it enables you to make some gain that you believe to be to your advantage. The mere act of believing that some wrongful course of action constitutes an advantage is pernicious.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:00:00 UTC No. 16476321
I want my 150t and 1000m^3 elon, where are they?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:02:07 UTC No. 16476323
how many cubic football fields would 64m starhip host inside its payload bay?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:02:10 UTC No. 16476324
AHHH I DONT WANT TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY FOR LUNCH
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:04:03 UTC No. 16476327
>>16476324
you can watch falcon on sunday
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:04:59 UTC No. 16476328
>>16476283
People with more money than sense, or Jeff gave them cheap package deals to fill seats and cause hype.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:05:01 UTC No. 16476329
Are any /sfg/ers going to be there on Monday?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:05:14 UTC No. 16476330
>>16476284
I'm sorry, but upon further review democracy and direct democracy are often not good and intelligent, especially not on a dangerous scape as mars, though if using such a slogan to entice universal support and hope I suppose that's one thing.
Plato and Aristotle and some of those who came before them were right:
The splintered, atomized, and less than perfectly ideal public cannot be given too much control over the whole:
But this stands solely on the grounds of the rulers and leaders being virtuous and having the peoples best interests.
If Elon and a small group of wise and knowledgeable elders and youth knew the ins and outs of all possible systems and benefits, of the fragile far from earth life sustaining systems: they would merely need to speak or PowerPoint to all the possible options, hear out and discuss any from the public that did not come to mind, and then cross benefit analysis.
Rule and leadership depends on logic, reasonabilty, rationality, virtue, nobility, honor, integrity, love and respect of ones nation and the fellow citizens whom help make and share in its glory.
We are all aware of the sometimes shadow in the back of the mind as school boys, who hear of Aristotles ethics and virtues, virtue signaling, ha, who needs it. What a fool to be virtuous, noble and honorable, what a sucker, to not rape and steal as long as noone is looking. What a pathetic loser it is to be good, when there is so much to gain by not. But if one grows up for some time, and looks around the world, they may develop a sense for the possible profundity of truth, of our fellow citizens who do embody such pure and noble qualities, the joys and goodnesses they pay and are paid in are multiplied throughout the kingdom, and are worthy.
Mom but all my friends are doing it.
Son, if all your friends were being unvirtous and unethical would you?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:06:45 UTC No. 16476332
>>16476328
I wonder how many of jeff's hops you can ride for the price of one inspiration 4 or fram 2
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:07:18 UTC No. 16476333
>>16476329
Nah its basically same profile as flight 5 Im just gonna watch online.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:07:31 UTC No. 16476334
>>16476332
No idea, but why would you go on Jeff's carnival ride if you could choose?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:08:21 UTC No. 16476336
>>16476334
yes but only if we're doing hard science with tangible practical benefits. suborbital sightseeing is a nonstarter.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:08:22 UTC No. 16476337
>>16476244
>>16476247
Silliness is a feature. Every single Trump proposal is so ridiculous that no one believes it will happen until reality is hitting them over the head with a sledgehammer. Making it ridiculous allows people to cope that it's not really happening, which gives them zero opportunity to react.
Speed and audacity work well together here.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:08:56 UTC No. 16476338
>/sfg/ filling with communist nonsense again
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:09:13 UTC No. 16476340
>>16476334
>go on Jeff's carnival ride if you could choose?
I mean, despite the memes, I'm sure EVERYONE here would say yes to that.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:10:38 UTC No. 16476343
>>16476227
>a year
Wow, even a doomer like you admit that Spacex can retool and rebuild everyting for a gigantic new rocket in one year when it would take old space two decades to do the same!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:10:54 UTC No. 16476344
>>16476327
I can watch Falcon any day!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:11:02 UTC No. 16476345
>>16476340
If I could choose? Not a snowball's chance in hell. The choices being actually going to space or going straight up in a joke.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:12:16 UTC No. 16476346
>>16476292
Only in archaeological evidence
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:13:38 UTC No. 16476350
>>16476337
Just like the wall right?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:16:27 UTC No. 16476356
>>16476334
>4 days in a dragon capsule
$45 million + weeks of intense contingency training
vs
>10 minutes of cool views and a little bet of weightlessness
>several luxury vacations around the world
>a brand new yacht
$40 million
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:17:04 UTC No. 16476357
>>16476313
What are they going to do about it, cut off my head? - Cicero
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:18:07 UTC No. 16476358
>>16476340
I wouldn't
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:19:37 UTC No. 16476362
>>16476350
Just like with the 2016 and 2024 elections, right?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:22:35 UTC No. 16476367
>>16476362
>>16476350
Take it elsewhere you huge gay babies.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:23:25 UTC No. 16476369
>>16476362
And do nothing. Yeah that's my point.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:27:23 UTC No. 16476376
>>16476293
Read my last sentence again.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:34:19 UTC No. 16476382
Next hop when?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:35:55 UTC No. 16476386
>>16476382
2 weeks - 11 days
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:37:50 UTC No. 16476389
>>16476292
>intelligent life
why do you retards always jump straight to intelligence. we'll be extremely, once in a species lucky to even find fossil bacteria. current bacteria is even more remote.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:38:07 UTC No. 16476390
>>16476045
Helios just makes Falcon 9 even more dominant, shame that it wasn't available for Europa Clipper.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:40:47 UTC No. 16476396
>>16476382
>>16476386
I thought it was on the 18th
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:40:57 UTC No. 16476397
>>16476292
It will be geologically completely identical to Earth's oceans down to the hydrothermal vents, but completely sterile.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:41:15 UTC No. 16476398
>>16476078
SG5 uses his job at Marshall to give credibility to his asnine lies.
My personal favorite of his was trying to claim the 9 engine Ship was a result of Flight 1 even though Elon had been publicly talking about it more than a year before.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:45:52 UTC No. 16476405
>>16476398
SG5? Aren't they currently deployed to P3C-117?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:03:40 UTC No. 16476418
>Shotwell: "We just passed 400 launches on Falcon and I would not be surprised if we fly 400 Starship launches in the next four years."
>The 1000 launches a year by 2028 comment by musk wasn't an actual goal
ngmi
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:18:13 UTC No. 16476435
>>16476418
>100 starship launches a year starting next year
yeah right
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:18:48 UTC No. 16476437
>>16476292
You can barely find intelligent life on Earth these days
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:20:07 UTC No. 16476438
>>16475352
>CIA can't get to Elon directly so they kill his son
>public and mass execution of entire CIA ensues
One can dream
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:22:18 UTC No. 16476442
>>16476292
imagine how tasty those alien squids must be
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:22:42 UTC No. 16476444
>>16476435
>exponentially increasing cadence
Yeah maybe in fantasy land
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:23:32 UTC No. 16476445
>>16476435
Nah, more like
25 in 2025, once a week in 2026 (basically needed for their plans), then 100 in 2027; 200 in 2028, adds up to about 400...
Peak F9 yearly launch rate will likely be around 300; imo Starship reaches peak F9 launch rate in 2029-2030; Starship will be cheaper than F9 (cost is largely cadence) by the start of the next decade.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:26:54 UTC No. 16476449
>>16476444
that is exponential jackass. nobody mentioned the exponent was big...
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:27:56 UTC No. 16476450
Tell a spaceflight related joke
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:29:17 UTC No. 16476453
>>16476449
ahh yes, [math]*10^0[/math], my favorite order of magnitude
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:29:27 UTC No. 16476454
>>16476445
Once starship is operational however, I would expect F9 to drop drastically.
The V2 minis on F9 are a stopgap and aren't good enough.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:29:49 UTC No. 16476455
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:30:14 UTC No. 16476456
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:31:39 UTC No. 16476459
>>16476449
Starship is designed ground up to be reusable, and returns to the launch site. No barge, not much refurbishment. With every starlink launch printing money, we'll see Starship go exponential way faster than F9
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:32:29 UTC No. 16476461
>>16476454
2025 will still be occupied with a lot of HLS testing and 2026 by a LOT of tanker launches for HLS (at least the demo) and the mars mission.
2027 will be the "first" calm year where SX will be able to fully use Starship for Starlink.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:34:45 UTC No. 16476465
>>16476389
He's asking about Europe. It even has multicellular life.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:36:40 UTC No. 16476466
>>16476450
Astra
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:37:43 UTC No. 16476468
>>16476269
>Used custom GPS reciever to launch a missile
I'm honestly surprised this is legal
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:38:39 UTC No. 16476470
>>16476459
Falcon 9 was designed to be reusable too. To the best of their ability and knowledge then.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:40:09 UTC No. 16476471
>>16476470
no it wasnt
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:40:31 UTC No. 16476472
>>16476461
Despite the HLS activity. Starlink is still priority one, always has been. Every fieldable starship outside of 26 was designed as a starlink launcher.
They haven't even started working on a tanker variant or docking/prop transfer hardware.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:44:09 UTC No. 16476475
>>16476471
It's infuriating that 95% of people into SpaceX now are newfags. How do you not know it was designed to be fully reusable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWF
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:45:51 UTC No. 16476480
>>16476450
It only takes 3 hours for Tianzhou to reach Tiangong, you wouldn't exactly call that a Long March
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:46:34 UTC No. 16476482
>>16476475
>Muse - Uprising
Love it, what a good video, basically an AMV lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:46:52 UTC No. 16476484
>>16476465
ugh evropa...
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:48:46 UTC No. 16476486
>>16475702
https://x.com/cb_doge/status/185618
the owner has spoken
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:50:26 UTC No. 16476488
>>16476465
fun fact: in my native language, Spanish, both the continent and the Jovian Moon are translated as "Europa", so they are the same word. I suppose it's the same for many other languages.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:52:31 UTC No. 16476490
>>16476472
>They haven't even started working on a tanker variant or docking/prop transfer hardware.
pure cope.
we WILL see visible docking and prop transfer hardware being ground tested within 4-5 months and on pad or in flight in a bit over 6 months.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:53:25 UTC No. 16476493
>>16476475
It was designed to start actually launching things so they could start making money. It was iterated to be reusable. For God's sake they stuck parachutes on the booster once
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:55:21 UTC No. 16476494
>>16476472
>They haven't even started working on the variant with no tiles, header tanks, or doors
Yeah removing all that stuff is going to be really difficult
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:56:05 UTC No. 16476495
>>16476490
>prop transfer being tested on pad in a bit over 6 months
Starship sex at Boca?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:56:39 UTC No. 16476498
>>16476475
I was under the impression reusability was something they added later, but apparently it was supposed to be fully reusable from the start
https://web.archive.org/web/2008081
and I do remember that video, I was still under the impression that reusability was something they tacked on ad hoc but with the main thing making the vehicle itself cheap to build
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:58:08 UTC No. 16476501
>>16476498
Kek I forgot SpaceX made them change the EELV acronym
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:58:53 UTC No. 16476503
>>16476486
i thought he was the president
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:08:11 UTC No. 16476517
>>16476389
I think theres a substantial possibility that theres currently complex multi-cellular life on europa. Also think theres a good chance it once existed on mars.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:09:44 UTC No. 16476519
>>16476475
>concept video
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:10:12 UTC No. 16476520
Now that Elon is President, can't he just tell the FAA to stop enforcing the laws? We might go to Mars in a few months
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:10:53 UTC No. 16476522
>>16476488
Europa vs Eurooppa in my language, it's also nice that Uranus is just a name and not a butt joke.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:12:51 UTC No. 16476525
>>16476514
ese es mi presidente, vamos milei
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:14:15 UTC No. 16476527
>>16476520
2 weeks actually
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:15:02 UTC No. 16476528
>>16476522
When will Finland into space?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:15:15 UTC No. 16476529
>>16476526
We couldn’t do it even if we wanted to
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:16:18 UTC No. 16476532
>>16476529
I bet we could, and I do want to.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:16:23 UTC No. 16476533
>>16476526
ceres doesn't really need mars to be its moon.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:16:26 UTC No. 16476534
>>16476528
never
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:16:33 UTC No. 16476535
>>16476514
We're finally getting the Atlantic Breakaway Space State we need.
>Trump
>Milei
>Bolsonaro
>Bukele
>Polievre
>KSC
>Wallops
>Maine
>Duluth
>Starbase
>Vandenburg
>Kodiak
>Kwajelein
>Alcantara
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:16:58 UTC No. 16476538
>>16476522
based finnanon.
>Uranus is just a name and not a butt joke.
Same here. They might as well change the English name, it's ruined already. Also, I get to say the kino names "Sol" and "Luna" without sounding pretentious lol
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:17:03 UTC No. 16476539
>>16476292
In the past there lived the greatest minds on Europa. Alas, all good things must come to an end.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:20:17 UTC No. 16476545
>>16476533
Why not? Why can't it be Mars' moon? It would make both of them more interesting. We should push it in the exact position so it causes total solar eclipses, like Luna from Terra.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:20:33 UTC No. 16476546
>>16476459
we may see exponential exponentialzation
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:25:07 UTC No. 16476556
>>16476529
There's a bunch of water. I bet you could build a factory that turns water ice into fuel and then fires it. How long would you need to fire a couple hundred raptors before it slowed enough to eventually reach Mars? A decade?
>>16476526
What do you need a moon for? If you can get it that close just slam them together. Solves a whole bunch of problems
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:26:44 UTC No. 16476560
>>16476556
how long would it take mars to stop being an uninhabitable lava ball after we smacked ceres into it?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:28:22 UTC No. 16476562
>>16476538
It should have been Caelus
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:28:50 UTC No. 16476563
>>16476556
The energy required to move something even as small as ceres is well outside of our capabilities anon, come on
>my gut feeling says we can do it
Yeah well the math says otherwise
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:29:37 UTC No. 16476565
>>16476545
back of the napkin calculation shows Ceres would have to be ~160,000 km from Mars to be the same size as the sun from its surface. about 2.5x closer than the moon is to Earth so its not an unrealistic distance. about 24 mars diameters.
the energy needed to move something that massive would be next to impossible though.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:29:38 UTC No. 16476566
>>16476563
Your math is wrong then.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:30:58 UTC No. 16476569
>>16476528
https://www.iceye.com
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:33:24 UTC No. 16476574
>>16476445
>25 in 2025
lol
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:35:12 UTC No. 16476577
>>16476558
>says starlink will be profitable this year
so the claims of it being profitable before were bogus?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:35:36 UTC No. 16476578
>>16476558
>make some money on Starlink
Does she mean cash flow positive or actual breakeven?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:35:39 UTC No. 16476579
>>16476569
>A Finnish company operates the world's largest SAR constellation
I wasn't aware of this, proud of you Finnanons
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:35:40 UTC No. 16476580
>>16476574
Yes, 25 in 2025.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:35:50 UTC No. 16476581
>>16476574
it already flies once every month. twice a month next year is not unreasonable.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:36:25 UTC No. 16476584
Terra and Luna when?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:37:02 UTC No. 16476585
>>16476577
Probably was in one quarter and then not in the next, etc
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:37:20 UTC No. 16476586
>>16476577
she says there were quarters it was profitable
I guess it depends what type of profitability you look at, how is the depreciation of the satellite constellation taken into account for instance, was it gross profitability or after everything (including taxes)
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:37:24 UTC No. 16476587
>>16476562
I annoy people I know in real life by ranting about this.
same with the moon being a planet
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:48:16 UTC No. 16476598
>>16476579
>A Finnish company operates the world's largest SAR constellation
Until SpaceX decides to slap it on some of their Starlinks.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:50:53 UTC No. 16476603
>>16476579
>SAR
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:00:47 UTC No. 16476615
SH V2 when?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:09:22 UTC No. 16476629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ4
>SpaceX Caught a Rocket With ‘Chopsticks.’ What Will Musk Try Next? | WSJ
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:20:55 UTC No. 16476640
reminder starship even at its maximum size is the size of a large shuttle in scifi. we've got a long way to go before we get actual "starships", which are usually measured in kilometers in length.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:31:37 UTC No. 16476650
fuck you
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:31:44 UTC No. 16476651
>>16476640
That means that two starships together are sci-fi territory?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:34:11 UTC No. 16476654
>>16476640
Something needs to be done about fuel taking up 90% of the space first.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:35:32 UTC No. 16476656
>>16476654
step 1: get a lot of nukes
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:37:40 UTC No. 16476657
>>16476654
Fuck Tsiolkovsky for inventing the rocket equation
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:38:01 UTC No. 16476658
I wish something would happen, its Friday and I'm bored
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:38:47 UTC No. 16476659
Let's say a test habitat is made on the moon: how is consistently fresh water made available? Easy(?) answer is continual shipment of fresh water tanks I geuss. But you don't want to be on the moon oops very low on water hope that shipment gets here soon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:38:55 UTC No. 16476660
>>16476654
Even an interstellar vehicle that uses antimatter would be 90% fuel if you want to get where you're going at any reasonable speed
>>16476656
This would still be mostly fuel
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:40:55 UTC No. 16476663
>>16476659
ISS water recycler is like 98% efficient. Drop a Starship with a few tons of water and a base of 1000 people is fine for years. You can even store extra outside
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:47:16 UTC No. 16476677
>>16476587
>same with the moon being a planet
never stop your righteous monomania based anon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:48:13 UTC No. 16476680
>>16476660
>Even an interstellar vehicle that uses antimatter would be 90% fuel if you want to get where you're going at any reasonable speed
interstellar fuel depots
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:48:40 UTC No. 16476684
>>16476660
>This would still be mostly fuel
retard. You use the nukes to take control of the world and make everyone focus on inventing new tech
turn the sun into a wormhole and you can go anywhere with 0 fuel
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:48:59 UTC No. 16476685
>>16476660
>Even an interstellar vehicle that uses antimatter would be 90% fuel if you want to get where you're going at any reasonable speed
Jim wouldn't lie to us!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:49:56 UTC No. 16476687
>>16476560
Took Earth multiple millions of years after Theia
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:50:29 UTC No. 16476689
>>16476558
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:52:15 UTC No. 16476694
>>16476659
You'd build the first base somewhere on the poles where you can mine ice.
>>16476640
gib 2500m Kugelraumer
>>16476654
First steps are RDEs for atmospheric operations and nuclear drives for space operations.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:52:55 UTC No. 16476696
>>16476687
>Theia
fake news
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:53:25 UTC No. 16476697
>>16476558
>>16476689
How old is she now?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:54:45 UTC No. 16476700
>>16476517
>think theres a substantial possibility that theres currently complex multi-cellular life on europa
How could that be verified. If several submersibles are sent how would the information be gotten back?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:56:05 UTC No. 16476702
>>16476689
so i suppose this is her replying to the retards that think contracts=subsidies
https://old.reddit.com/r/MurderedBy
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:57:48 UTC No. 16476705
>>16476685
The ISV is mostly a propulsion system. The solar sail on the end is for the trip out from Earth and the radiators are part of the engine. The balls store the antimatter. The payload is the little thing just before the big mirror.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:04:08 UTC No. 16476716
>>16476702
You need to go back.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:05:16 UTC No. 16476719
Tropical storm heading for boca chica
Launchbros...
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:07:19 UTC No. 16476727
>>16476724
oh god
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:09:23 UTC No. 16476731
>>16476724
hehe benis :-DDDD
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:09:27 UTC No. 16476732
>>16476719
It's barely clear of Yucatan on Monday. Sounds like bullshit.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:09:43 UTC No. 16476733
>>16476724
>walk even slightly behind her and she'll bat you into the wall whenever she turns a corner
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:10:19 UTC No. 16476736
>>16476724
>didn't draw it coming out from her crotch
kys
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:11:24 UTC No. 16476737
>>16476587
>The moon is a planet
>Annoy people irl
We could tell anon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:11:25 UTC No. 16476738
>>16476724
At least Europe did something of value this week
I cant think of anything else
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:11:33 UTC No. 16476739
>>16476705
Humans in the Avatar universe have some sort of megastructure around the sun. They use it to produce the antimatter for the ships. The acceleration away from Earth is done by stellaser. The antimatter decelerates them in Alpha Centauri, then accelerates them away, then the stellaser decelerates them around Sol again. Current timeline they're building a similar megastructure around Alpha Centauri, so they'll have a stellaser there too. This means propellantless ISVs. Seems like a realistic infrastructure for a multistellar civilization
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:12:09 UTC No. 16476742
>>16476724
Is...is Europa Clipper a b-boy?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:13:38 UTC No. 16476745
>>16476737
everything in the sky is a planet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:19:50 UTC No. 16476752
>>16476745
oh no no, IAUbros...
>Some planetary scientists reject the 2006 definition of planet, and thus would still consider some of the objects on this list to be planets under a geophysical definition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoph
>Another widely accepted geophysical definition of a planet includes that which was put forth by planetary scientists Alan Stern and Harold Levison in 2002. The pair proposed the following rules to determine whether an object in space satisfies the definition for a planetary body
>A planetary body is defined as any body in space that satisfies the following criteria:
>Be low enough in mass that at no time (past or present) can it generate energy in its interior due to any self-sustaining nuclear fusion chain reaction
>Be large enough that its shape becomes determined primarily by gravity rather than mechanical strength or other factors, so that the body would reach a state of hydrostatic equilibrium.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:21:00 UTC No. 16476754
>>16476689
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:27:56 UTC No. 16476760
>>16476754
>we never do it on time, we're very sorry about that
lol
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:29:17 UTC No. 16476761
>>16476760
well at least they do it, the same can't be said for many other companies
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:29:38 UTC No. 16476763
>>16476760
Cost plus contractors have even less reasons for delivering on time. They get paid to sit with their thumbs up their arse anyways.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:29:51 UTC No. 16476764
>>16476752
That definition just makes way more sense. Holy fuck I'm mad. Upset! ANGRY!!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:31:31 UTC No. 16476768
>>16476705
NTA but made me think about how cool the design is. Apart from unobtanium, Avatar had a much richer and more developed scifi human future than Interstellar. The landing shuttle in Interstellar is so stupid, it's like 90% interior and 10% fuel and engines, yet it clearly gets thousands of m/s of delta v from magic. Not to mention the worm hole and time tesseract in the black hole are straight goofy, way goofier than unobtanium.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:33:34 UTC No. 16476772
Why won't they show their HLS interior designs?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:34:04 UTC No. 16476774
>>16476772
Probably because they're still in flux.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:34:11 UTC No. 16476775
>>16476754
>we never do it on time
what was even the point in saying this?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:34:44 UTC No. 16476777
>>16476772
I don't know
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:35:33 UTC No. 16476780
>>16476761
>>16476763
>>16476775
Why are you offended?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:36:08 UTC No. 16476781
>>16476775
It acknowledges that they run late, and that this doesn't stop them from fulfilling their contracts and managing to make a buck while doing so. Most contractors bid on the expectation of everything going perfectly, and the second there's any kind of schedule slip, oopsy, the project now costs 20% more for every year of delay.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:36:35 UTC No. 16476782
>>16476780
Why are you so autistic you think any of that was offended?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:38:09 UTC No. 16476784
>>16476705
that antimatter must be pretty fucking dense for that to work and that lightsail is laughably small
>>16476739
>Humans in the Avatar universe have some sort of megastructure around the sun. They use it to produce the antimatter for the ships. The acceleration away from Earth is done by stellaser.
that's why it's hilarious when all we see of Earth is le cyberpunk dystopia with human powered vehicles on the streets
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:41:54 UTC No. 16476788
>>16476781
I know, but it's pointless to say it. Is there even one single instance of a space project/product being delivered on time? does such a thing even exist? That quote just looks bad on the company. Then people wonder why we have the term "elon time", while nobody mentions rogozin time, bruno time, lockheed time, etc. Same with the phrase "at spacex we specialize at converting the impossible to late", when spacex is the fastest by far in the industry.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:43:05 UTC No. 16476791
>>16476654
>Something needs to be done about fuel taking up 90% of the space first
Is that why side boosters became a thing
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:43:18 UTC No. 16476792
>>16476784
>that antimatter must be pretty fucking dense for that to work and that lightsail is laughably small
That's just the laser and whipple shield. The actual solar sail is on the other end of the ship, retracted in the boom between the main engines and radiators.
>>16476788
It is not pointless to say it: Gwynne is saying that being late doesn't automatically stop a project from being on budget.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:43:57 UTC No. 16476793
>>16476784
>human powered vehicles on the streets
>flintstones is a cyberpunk dystopia
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:45:54 UTC No. 16476795
how can i tell if a starlink train is going to be overhead? i want to see one.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:46:31 UTC No. 16476797
>>16476788
>it's pointless to say it
Are you actually braindead? She was talking about cost plus contracts and how if they take longer, it costs the customer more whereas when SpaceX takes longer with their fixed price contracts, it does not.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:47:29 UTC No. 16476799
>>16476752
>Be low enough in mass that at no time (past or present) can it generate energy in its interior due to any self-sustaining nuclear fusion chain reaction
What a useless inclusion, it's a planet if it's not a star? Are there even any examples of a rocky body where this is happening? I'd assume a gas giant would just be consumed should a self-sustaing nuclear reaction happen.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:48:12 UTC No. 16476800
>>16476795
how can i tell if your dad is going to be a prostitute? i want to jizz on his face.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:48:29 UTC No. 16476801
>>16476792
>That's just the laser and whipple shield. The actual solar sail is on the other end of the ship
Nifty design
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:50:16 UTC No. 16476803
>>16476801
awesome.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:52:11 UTC No. 16476805
>>16476795
https://findstarlink.com/
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:55:24 UTC No. 16476810
>>16476694
>You'd build the first base somewhere on the poles where you can mine ice.
I don't know anything about chemistry, is moon ice as edible as earth ice? Any radioactivity fears for long stays on the moon?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:56:16 UTC No. 16476813
>>16476788
>Is there even one single instance of a space project/product being delivered on time?
>We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:01:08 UTC No. 16476820
>>16476818
>Which major world of the Solar System is your favourite?
Earth. That's why the rest of the terrestrial worlds should aspire to be like Earth.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:01:10 UTC No. 16476821
>>16476818
can't go wrong with this beautiful woman
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:02:00 UTC No. 16476822
>>16476818
>major world
anything that is spherical counts
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:02:30 UTC No. 16476823
>>16475448
We will leave those euros behind again.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:02:34 UTC No. 16476824
>>16476805
thanks
>>16476800
fuck you
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:02:39 UTC No. 16476825
>>16476820
Listen, Titan is trying its best.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:03:10 UTC No. 16476828
>>16476822
Wrong.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:04:03 UTC No. 16476829
>>16476828
why? elaborate
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:05:06 UTC No. 16476830
>>16476274
https://www.reuters.com/technology/
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:05:33 UTC No. 16476833
>>16476829
I would say 2,000 km diameter is the lower limit.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:06:04 UTC No. 16476834
>>16476011
OIG is there to investigate inefficient or fraudulent programs that were agreed upon. DOGE apparently is looking for which of these programs don't need to exist. they do different things in concept.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:09:30 UTC No. 16476836
>>16476292
I'm afraid that was wiped out a couple decades ago
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:13:06 UTC No. 16476842
>>16476793
Avatar urf also has the super bright neon and holograms that are the cyberpunk sine qua non
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:13:26 UTC No. 16476843
>>16476700
>think theres a substantial possibility that theres currently complex multi-cellular life on europa
>How could that be verified. If several submersibles are sent how would the information be gotten back?
"According to NASA, the liquid ocean beneath Europa's icy surface is estimated to be between 40 to 100 miles (60 to 150 kilometers) deep, with the ice shell itself being around 10 to 15 miles (15 to 25 kilometers) thick"
Doesn't look like that's happening any time soon, unless there is some type of really strong pointy super sonic piercing dart missile, and if say 20 or so we're launched in a row with increasing width so like an un connected train of rock ice picks, the last one being a motorized drill and just to test how deep this technique could bore
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:14:52 UTC No. 16476844
>>16476801
sail is still far too small wtf
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:16:23 UTC No. 16476846
>>16476833
>2,000 km
completely arbitrary. You leave out worlds like Titania, Oberon, Rhea, Iapetus, Makemake, etc etc. If we are trying to set up a limit in km, then you might as well go down to 800km. There are only 34 confirmed celestial bodies, excluding the sun, with >400km radius anyways. There are many more known bodies with a smaller radius that are still spherical, like Dysnomia, Enceladus, or Miranda, but at this range you'll start encountering dozens, if not hundreds in the near future, of KBOs and objects from the Scattered Disk that are or could be spherical. And that's not even including the Oort Cloud itself.
I'd say 40ish worlds is okay, compared to the 740,000 minor worlds in our solar system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:17:19 UTC No. 16476849
>>16476810
>is moon ice as edible as earth ice? Any radioactivity fears for long stays on the moon?
should be perfectly drinkable and there's no radiological danger, no
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:19:18 UTC No. 16476854
>>16476849
What about moon dust in muh ice
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:20:12 UTC No. 16476856
>>16476764
>That definition just makes way more sense. Holy fuck I'm mad. Upset! ANGRY!!
Tomato potato a rose by any other name, call them small planets that orbit larger ones or moons for short
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:20:33 UTC No. 16476857
>>16476578
She seems to be the logical type, so she probably means that even with all the costs they got more money than they put in.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:21:32 UTC No. 16476859
>>16476818
planets orbit stars, moons orbit planets
simple as
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:21:59 UTC No. 16476860
>>16476846
nah, heliocentric orbit and bigger than the smallest planet, the Moon, keeps things manageable
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:22:31 UTC No. 16476861
>>16476859
you're close, actually the things that orbit planets are also called planets
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:23:35 UTC No. 16476862
>>16476860
>the smallest planet, the Moon
you misspelled pluto, anon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:23:44 UTC No. 16476863
>>16476854
just vacuum distill it nigga, you'll be fine
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:24:35 UTC No. 16476866
>>16476862
how do you mess up spelling ceres that bad?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:24:45 UTC No. 16476867
>>16476405
not the stargate team, the internet troll
totally different
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:25:43 UTC No. 16476869
>>16476866
begone, belter, you are not welcome here
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:27:23 UTC No. 16476870
>>16476862
>pluto
If we'd've had better telescopes it would have been classed as just the first Kuiper belt dwarf planet and all this shit would have been done and dusted by the 1940s
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:29:20 UTC No. 16476873
>>16476871
What the fuck are you linking?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:30:16 UTC No. 16476874
>>16476873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJ
hmm
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:35:56 UTC No. 16476881
>>16476877
>ground based telescope
gay
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:36:11 UTC No. 16476883
>>16476877
This could be 100m in space
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:37:19 UTC No. 16476884
>>16476881
Built by Chilean welders for €1B
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:38:05 UTC No. 16476885
>>16476877
cool, I wonder how pain in the ass is building it there
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:39:49 UTC No. 16476887
>>16476877
this thing is going to be useless in 10 years when other megaconstellations are up kek.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:40:09 UTC No. 16476888
CASC-CALT has announced that they'll do "low altitude tests" of the Long March 10A in 2025, no more details, but it is largely interpreted as a VTVL test of the wire catch system. Maiden orbital launch is still planned for 2026.
This will likely complement the ongoing high altitude VTVL test campaign by CASC-SAST for the development of the Long March 12A/B
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:40:47 UTC No. 16476891
>>16476877
astronomers would rather build a 10km-long ground based telescope, and kill millions of beetles in the process, than to launch one single space telescope.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:42:20 UTC No. 16476893
>>16476877
>a little south of it
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:42:59 UTC No. 16476895
>>16476860
>the smallest planet, the Moon
based and binary-planet-pilled
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:44:06 UTC No. 16476898
>>16476891
astronomers are some of the most fervent space-is-hard-ers
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:46:32 UTC No. 16476903
go back
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:47:02 UTC No. 16476904
>>16476891
Space telescopes are too expensive and too complex
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:47:10 UTC No. 16476905
>>16476901
this alignment chart is ass
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:47:21 UTC No. 16476906
>>16476901
what does directly orbit mean? the earth orbits the moon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:48:41 UTC No. 16476907
>>16476888
Does CASC have a hopper yet?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:49:14 UTC No. 16476908
>>16476887
As I understand it we cannot do (computational) synthesized apertures for most of the spectrum yet, so big telescopes are still useful.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:51:12 UTC No. 16476910
>>16476754
https://x.com/wapodavenport/status/
https://spacenews.com/shotwell-pred
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:52:24 UTC No. 16476911
>>16476821
wait till you see her naked. yeah thats a yikes from me
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:53:06 UTC No. 16476912
>>16476907
CASC SAST (Shanghai section) built two, one (largely unknown, we only have one picture) small one that made small hops in early 2023 , and a larger one (3.8m diameter, easily the size of a small launcher) that did a 12km altitude hop last june. They want to do a 75km altitude launch profile simulation with it before the end of the year.
CASC CALT (Beijing section) doesn't have one yet.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:53:46 UTC No. 16476914
>>16476911
hot
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:53:52 UTC No. 16476915
>>16476910
Only 400?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:54:58 UTC No. 16476918
>>16476910
>She predicted that Starship will rapidly eclipse the company’s existing Falcon family of rockets, which has launched more than 400 times. “I would not be surprised if we fly 400 Starship launches in the next four years,” she said. That will be in parallel with Falcon 9, but she suggested that vehicle could be retired, along with the Dragon spacecraft used for crew and cargo missions, in as little as six to eight years as customers move to Starship.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:55:53 UTC No. 16476919
>>16476912
Thanks for the info anon
Between all the CASC subdivisions and the private sector Chinese spaceflight is hard to keep track of
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:56:27 UTC No. 16476921
>>16476915
Musk has more ambitious goals I think, this 400 number is due to F9 being launched 400 times
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:56:49 UTC No. 16476922
>>16476877
Its not gay, its based. Literally
>>16476893
Yes Hitler retired in South America. I heard its a pretty cool place
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:56:54 UTC No. 16476923
400 launches in 4 years? lol they will run out of payloads long before that
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:57:48 UTC No. 16476925
>>16476923
it takes 400 launches just to fill up one depot for HLS
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:57:57 UTC No. 16476926
>>16476901
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:58:23 UTC No. 16476927
>>16476923
Over half of would be launches for refueling
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:58:39 UTC No. 16476928
>>16476923
there are more starlinks than grains of sands in the universe
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:58:50 UTC No. 16476930
they're going to need to build a dozen launch towers to get to 400 launches in 4 years
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:58:59 UTC No. 16476931
>>16476925
HLS will be cancelled, Orion will never take humans in the moon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:00:09 UTC No. 16476934
>>16476923
starlink isnt the only large constellation. oneweb, telesat, that new google project, the 3 or 4 military ones, the EU one...
we may see alot of fucking satellites soon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:01:03 UTC No. 16476935
>>16476930
God its going to be so kino
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:01:56 UTC No. 16476938
>>16476923
They're going to need a fuckton of launches just to drop enough material onto Mars.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:02:12 UTC No. 16476939
>>16476934
astroonomers seething
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:02:28 UTC No. 16476940
>>16476784
The movie is not subtle that the company is evil. Civilizations able to field several interstellar vessels do not have an energy crisis
>>16476772
Because it's fucking embarrassing. Despite years to come up with something they couldn't figure out what to do with a Starship so it just has 40 foot ceilings
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:03:19 UTC No. 16476941
>>16476930
2 towers in Boca, 2 in Florida, that makes a launch per week per tower. easily doable.
>Verification not required.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:06:24 UTC No. 16476944
>>16476940
>Civilizations able to field several interstellar vessels do not have an energy crisis
I know and I've argued the point on /tv/ but they worship Jim, purveyor of giantess catwoman pussy there, so they won't listen
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:07:59 UTC No. 16476946
>>16476930
>they're going to need to build a dozen launch towers to get to 400 launches in 4 years
They only need ~2 launches a week between the four towers that will be at Boca Chica and KSC.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:08:10 UTC No. 16476947
>>16476940
they are gonna put 2 or 4 people on the HLS
Coming from a tiny fucking capsule
What a joke
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:09:31 UTC No. 16476950
>>16476940
Despite the effort to make them cartoonish villains the humans are the good guys.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:10:56 UTC No. 16476952
>>16476940
>>16476947
>using the render that is explicitly labeled as not representative
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:11:31 UTC No. 16476953
>>16476788
The Lunar Rover was designed, built, and delivered in something like 8 months. It was ahead of schedule and under budget.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:13:02 UTC No. 16476954
>>16476951
thats a man
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:17:34 UTC No. 16476956
>>16476951
Wh's ths sexy señorita?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:19:11 UTC No. 16476957
>>16476931
>>16476930
Will robots build chop stick tower on the moon, how will a safe landing be assured, sky scraper in little gravity on hard to be the most assured legs on assured footing, the idea of capsule landers or space plane does seem like something, any chance a starship lander could have thrusters on its belly, to flop descend smoothly
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:20:36 UTC No. 16476958
>>16476957
chopsticks arent needed for the moon
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:22:56 UTC No. 16476960
>>16476951
by a fucking ad
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:41:51 UTC No. 16476965
>>16476960
NSF is literally the only channel you can justifiably say this about. No one posts estronaut here, so it's not worth mentioning, but too many post NSF slop.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:43:27 UTC No. 16476967
>>16476965
estronaut puts out a video once a month and its usually garbage
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:44:50 UTC No. 16476970
Why does /sfg/ slow down during euro nighttime?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:47:34 UTC No. 16476971
>>16476967
No one posts his streams or other content here is my point. thunderf00t is posted more frequently than he is. NSF doesn't need anyone posting their fucking shit here. They never have anything important worth posting about, and they don't even have the best angles.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:48:06 UTC No. 16476972
>>16476967
Don't lie, his facility walk-throughs are fun to watch
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:48:38 UTC No. 16476973
>>16476972
wow, that's crazy!
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:50:51 UTC No. 16476975
>>16476970
we compensate for our shit space industry by megaposting
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:51:07 UTC No. 16476977
>>16476970
>anon finds out /sfg/ is filled with self-deprecating europeans
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:57:51 UTC No. 16476983
>>16476975
Retard question. Why are those engine nozzles so red-hot?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 22:59:09 UTC No. 16476984
>>16476558
She started to talk like Elon.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:00:18 UTC No. 16476985
>>16476881
>space cringed telescopes
even gayer
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:00:50 UTC No. 16476986
>>16476972
the facilities themselves are cool. estronaut himself is the worst person the tour could be given to.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:01:26 UTC No. 16476988
>>16476835
It was determined that any limnology would drive it over budget and so was cut
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:02:26 UTC No. 16476989
>>16476844
It isn't just a solar sail, they fire a stellaser at it
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:03:46 UTC No. 16476992
>>16476986
Everything about it was bad.
The people themselves are just fake, gay, and unlikable.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:04:19 UTC No. 16476993
>>16476986
Can't say I agree, while he's cringe he asks decent questions and let them actually speak which is a rarity nowadays.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:08:32 UTC No. 16476997
>>16476983
They're near lots of fire
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:09:48 UTC No. 16477000
>>16476992
>hey I just happened to be standing right here, this is the best place I ever worked
>thank you Jeff Bezos, you're the greatest in the aerospace industry
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:11:03 UTC No. 16477002
>>16476724
>>16476727
>>16476731
>>16476733
>>16476736
>>16476738
>>16476742
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:13:53 UTC No. 16477009
>>16477000
that was all real btw
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:14:24 UTC No. 16477011
>>16477002
I thought that was cum on her back at first
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:15:44 UTC No. 16477013
https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024
Starship will be taxed by the Biden admin
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:19:20 UTC No. 16477019
>>16476891
>https://findstarlink.com/
they are simply selecting for the smartest beetles. get with the program or get extinct. its that simple
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:19:41 UTC No. 16477020
>>16477013
Oh no!! Halt the programs immediately, I cant pay the minuscule fine, need the money for ketamine
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:21:55 UTC No. 16477023
>>16476935
is this real?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:22:58 UTC No. 16477025
>>16477023
its was newfriend. It was.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:27:24 UTC No. 16477039
>>16477025
'twas but a jest, a call upon an ag'ed reference of old
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:28:33 UTC No. 16477041
OUR STARSHIPS WILL BLOT OUT THE SUN
https://spacenews.com/shotwell-pred
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:28:55 UTC No. 16477043
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:30:02 UTC No. 16477049
>>16477043
and also forgot
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:31:39 UTC No. 16477056
>>16476986
You think Bezos would do a guided tour with someone who would grill him for using isogrid on the common dome?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:32:44 UTC No. 16477061
>>16477002
Fixed hand
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:48:37 UTC No. 16477107
>>16474717
My back hurts just from imagining swimming a few laps in water that curves upwards the entire time. Alternatively I'm imagining choking trying to swim crawl stroke across water that curves upwards to the left and right of me.
Keep your spinning meme stations, I'd rather dive through a fucking piss lock.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:51:38 UTC No. 16477112
>>16476884
imagine wasting billions of dollars on a stupid worthless telescope.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 00:04:26 UTC No. 16477136
>>16477112
A lot of investors just cant get over the idea of putting something up a rocket that can blow up vs building something on earth that cant blow up.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 02:33:16 UTC No. 16477383
>>16476931
I been sayin this for YEARS. Just put landing legs on Orion
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 02:45:56 UTC No. 16477396
>>16476651
two starships together is dolphin sex
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 02:49:16 UTC No. 16477404
>>16476925
>it takes 400 launches just to fill up one depot for HLS
What the fuck….
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 02:53:29 UTC No. 16477411
>>16476849
>ice
>radioactivity
Water ice only contains hydrogen and oxygen, the only way it can be radioactive is if contains tritium, or non-water impurities. And tritium doesn't stay in your body.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 02:55:41 UTC No. 16477414
>>16476935
look at all those future Starship launch pads
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 04:09:16 UTC No. 16477457
>>16476684
>turn the sun into a wormhole
what
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 09:05:26 UTC No. 16477620
>>16476167
God doesn't seem to want them there, look at Challenger and Columbia.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 09:06:20 UTC No. 16477621
>>16475033
>>16475028
wait, they're planning a partially reusable superheavy lift vehicle now?
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 09:19:36 UTC No. 16477630
>>16474897
>>16474901
>>16475291
>let's combine Falcon 9, Starship, and New Glenn
Feels like a gypsy scam rocket.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 10:59:38 UTC No. 16477677
>>16475647
just like elon was serious about getting trump elected, he is serious about mars colonization. its the only explanation for why he'd want so much production capacity.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 14:24:37 UTC No. 16477812
>>16477425
jewlover beats a jew? Curios scenario.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:16:34 UTC No. 16477847
>>16477812
I love my wife and i beat her all the time so whats your point.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:40:02 UTC No. 16477867
>>16476253
header tanks are cope
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 16:55:31 UTC No. 16477934
>>16476988
Really?
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 17:13:35 UTC No. 16477950
>>16477812
more jews voted for Kamala but more zionists are in the Trump cabinet
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 17:35:24 UTC No. 16477977
>>16477950
Another epic victory for American patriots!
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 18:18:51 UTC No. 16478018
>>16477867
Fluid dynamics would like to disagree.