🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 16:32:58 UTC No. 16502185
Our new NASA administrator gentlemen
previous >>16499847
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 16:35:58 UTC No. 16502189
>>16502185
>actively puts his life on the line to advance spaceflight
>has a history of success in managing businesses
>has elon's ear
>loved by the spaceflight community
the only thing he lacks is political experience
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 16:49:31 UTC No. 16502209
>>16502185
based thread
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 16:50:18 UTC No. 16502212
>>16502185
This thread is perfect, why would you stage early? Fucking retard. CLEAN IT UP JANNY
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:00:48 UTC No. 16502223
>>16502185
Lori Garver was a better pick. This guy knows nothing about politics or how NSA operates.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:03:26 UTC No. 16502227
>>16501984
a lot of rockets have optional third stages, they are usually called kick stages
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:03:26 UTC No. 16502228
>>16502222
Digits confirm.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:03:37 UTC No. 16502229
fuck you
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:03:49 UTC No. 16502230
>>16502223
I don't see why knowing how National Security Agency operates should be a deciding factor in picking NASA administrator.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:05:26 UTC No. 16502231
>>16502228
would this work?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:05:53 UTC No. 16502232
SLS is DEFINETLY getting cancelled this admin. Holy FUCK its going to be such a good 4 years bros. SPACEX WILL MAKE IT TO MARS FOR THE 2026 HOHMANN TRANSFER WINDOW
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:06:46 UTC No. 16502234
>>16502232
It's up to the congress to cancel SLS.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:06:46 UTC No. 16502235
>>16502207
Polaris 2 was the Hubble repair, which was effectively soft cancelled. Except now it's probably back on in the upcoming admin. Get fucked NASA busybody faggots
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:07:09 UTC No. 16502236
>>16502232
How much would you bet on that? I'd bet 500$ they miss 2026. (In this case, "make it to mars" counts as a successful landing)
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:07:46 UTC No. 16502237
>>16502234
/sfg/ couldn't pass a 3rd grade civics class. Let them have their fun.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:07:53 UTC No. 16502238
>>16502236
Would you also bet $600 on them making the tower catch on flight 6?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:08:20 UTC No. 16502239
>>16502234
What party has control of the house, senate, presidency, and supreme court again?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:11:31 UTC No. 16502242
>>16502239
Just because they're in trump’s party doesn’t mean they want to lose the jobs in their district.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:12:02 UTC No. 16502243
>>16502239
Why do you think SLS survives this long? It is bipartisan.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:12:39 UTC No. 16502245
>>16502242
Um sweaty? Don't you know trump is king now? The incoming FBI director wrote a book about it.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:13:25 UTC No. 16502246
>>16502234
Not really, obama was able to cancel constellation despite congressional opposition. While directing federal funds to their own district wins congress critters votes, doing so at exorbitant expense or at the cost of national security loses votes. If you can convince enough people of one of those 2 then the congress critters will fall in line.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:14:01 UTC No. 16502247
>global ISP revenue is 1.7 trillion
>starlink revenue is 6.6 billion
>2.6 billion people are not connected to the internet
>starlink has 4 million customers
h-how high up does this go
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:15:07 UTC No. 16502250
>>16502247
more than you think, less than you hope
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:16:27 UTC No. 16502252
>>16502185
mentally retarded early stager
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:17:50 UTC No. 16502253
Does anyone know anything about his views on NASA or what he thinks they should be prioritizing?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:17:55 UTC No. 16502254
>>16502251
when Starships start arriving, landing and populating the moon he'll say that SLS could've done it better
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:18:08 UTC No. 16502255
>>16502235
Total /sfg/ victory. Someone send him a 4ASS patch.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:18:18 UTC No. 16502256
>>16502251
NASA had a bad run. Their good run is just about to start.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:18:40 UTC No. 16502257
>>16502251
>My first act as the NASA administrator is to fire the janitor known online as Spaceguy5.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:19:10 UTC No. 16502258
>>16502228
>>16502231
Cancelling SLS opens the door to many possibilities
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:19:19 UTC No. 16502259
>>16502239
SLS has bipartisan senate support you turbonewfag, the pork benefits both parties which is why it was funded in the first place.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:23:23 UTC No. 16502263
>>16502251
Oh man, the seething begins. I exist just to see spaceguy5s spiral into despair as it becomes increasingly obvious issacman is going to cancel SLS.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:23:45 UTC No. 16502264
>>16502257
>>16502257
Based, I remember when he screeched about Jared
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
>Name calling not very mature of you.
>I was part of the 6 month study, you are just reading an article. There output of the joint study was an official recommendation. Some people, that may or may not have an agenda, disagreed with that recommendation.
>The reality is Hubble is very unhealthy, it goes offline regularly and has little-to-no redundancy remaining. There is very little 'risk' to the telescope in this condition. The reward is continued science for potentially decades more.
>Ultimately, it is not our telescope to touch, but I hope someone finds a way to keep Hubble going alongside JWST. Unfortunately, the solar cycle is rapidly removing rescue options, be that Polaris or otherwise.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:24:24 UTC No. 16502265
>>16502253
Well considering he's runs the worlds first and only private missons I dare say he's all in on private space.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:29:22 UTC No. 16502268
>>16502232
Of course it will, that was already clear, the question is timeline, while there are good arguments for it, I'm still not convinced SLS will be cancelled before Artemis II
I'm like
100% convinced it gets cancelled after AIII, 80% after AII, and 50% before AII
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:30:20 UTC No. 16502269
>>16502264
It came to me in a vision
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:34:14 UTC No. 16502272
>>16502232
>SPACEX WILL MAKE IT TO MARS FOR THE 2026 HOHMANN TRANSFER WINDOW
I mean, that would've happend anyways
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:36:34 UTC No. 16502276
>>16502239
Most politically-aware /sfg/bro
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:38:17 UTC No. 16502281
>>16502185
The response from the spaceflight community seems positive from every direction, it really is just spaceguy5 seething lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:41:47 UTC No. 16502284
>>16502281
ESG Hound has yet to drop some cope, same as CSS. Checking thunderthighs right now
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:44:15 UTC No. 16502287
>>16502258
How much extra mass to orbit would New Glenn get if you removed all its landing hardware and expended it?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:44:53 UTC No. 16502289
>>16502284
I doubt thunderf00t even cares. It's clear he knows nothing about spaceflight except that which appears to let him shit on spacex. He couldn't even be assed to read the flight plan for ift4 and was thus confused about pretty much everything he saw.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:46:31 UTC No. 16502292
>>16502264
Imagine how this guy must feel knowing the man he called a manbaby on twitter is now his boss.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:46:59 UTC No. 16502294
>>16502291
Who gives a flying fuck. Infact, glass Yurop immediatly
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:47:05 UTC No. 16502295
>>16502281
>>16502284
>>16502289
Everyone with Elon Derangement Syndrome is on the spectrum between unhappy and Big Mad, and for no other reason than his proximity to Elon alone.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:47:16 UTC No. 16502296
I wonder how much Bezos is seething knowing Elon basically owns the executive branch
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:47:31 UTC No. 16502298
>>16502222
nice digits
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:48:42 UTC No. 16502301
Lol, r/nasa is in a meltdown. I thought they'd be happy about this, but no, all they care about is politics as usual and screaming about orange man and lemon husk.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:49:09 UTC No. 16502302
>>16502248
Berger seems to have all the good sources
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:49:45 UTC No. 16502303
>>16502281
He managed to find 1 other person upset by the news.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:49:57 UTC No. 16502304
>Starship going BRRRRRRRRTTTT
>Starship based telescopes
>Starship based LEO habitats
>Starship based fuel depots
>Starship based human rated launch vehicle
>Starship based starlink dispensers
>Starship based moon transportation system
>Starship based mars transportation system
STARSHIP LAUNCH SYSTEM
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:50:00 UTC No. 16502305
>>16502189
>lacks political experience
Executive experience is more important
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:51:31 UTC No. 16502306
>>16502296
This too shall pass and the turtle will keep on its way.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:52:15 UTC No. 16502308
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:52:23 UTC No. 16502309
>>16502251
>>16502264
>>16502303
>Wake up
>Check /sfg/
>spaceguy5 is seething
Today is going to be a good day.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:53:01 UTC No. 16502310
>>16502296
I doubt he's seething too much considering an administrator like issacman is in his interests too.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:53:29 UTC No. 16502312
>>16502296
why would he be seething in this context
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:53:46 UTC No. 16502313
>>16502287
If we can use Falcon 9 as a guide, it'd be something around 60 tons. You'd get a better boost to performance by adding more thrust to the second stage and sticking a third stage on top
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:53:47 UTC No. 16502314
>>16502234
it's up to NASA to tell them to fuck themselves and fire the contractors
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:55:15 UTC No. 16502318
>>16502314
lol
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:56:49 UTC No. 16502321
>>16502237
>muh political process
>muh legality
>muh precedent
Sorry, that shit's long over if you haven't noticed
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:56:54 UTC No. 16502322
>>16502319
>blue hair reaction
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:57:44 UTC No. 16502324
>>16502304
I want more variety in space arquitecture than 10000 starships with mustaches and glasses
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:57:55 UTC No. 16502325
Our current generation of astronaut and the direction of the US space agency of the future. Full commercialization process.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:57:57 UTC No. 16502326
>>16502321
Oh I have anon... or should I say.... we have.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:59:16 UTC No. 16502328
>>16502324
>pay "variety" that produces 1/10th the result for 100x the price
I dont want DEI shit. I want performance and value for American tax paying dollars. I want full blasting off of space industry and not be held back for affirmative actions for lack luster companies. If they fail to deliver, let new entrants in to compete.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 17:59:57 UTC No. 16502330
Soyuz Kosmos launch in a few seconds
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:00:28 UTC No. 16502332
>>16502330
Glass Russia and Europe
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:01:01 UTC No. 16502333
>>16502325
>Full commercialization process.
Thank God, if we keep the whole "space should be only for science" faggotry we won't ever colonize the solar system
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:01:18 UTC No. 16502334
Holy fucking shit we can’t stop winning, this is unprecedented lmfao
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:02:57 UTC No. 16502335
Okay, but how will this affect the UFOs?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:04:07 UTC No. 16502337
>>16502335
They will now all be identified flying objects
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:04:44 UTC No. 16502340
>>16502251
Time for the pedo brony to find a job in the private sector!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:05:29 UTC No. 16502341
>>16502340
How about he just doesnt get a job in the industry ever again
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:05:36 UTC No. 16502342
Every libtard space twitter fag who wanted a Kamala/Kelly ticket for the vague “benefit of space!” should be bending the knee right now
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:06:40 UTC No. 16502343
>>16502342
They've never cared about space. They've only cared about communism
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:07:21 UTC No. 16502345
>>16502343
>communism
Why do Americans love buzzwords like communism and fascism so much?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:07:32 UTC No. 16502346
>>16502223
Lori garver would just hire all women. she is pro commercial space but fuckstupid at everything else
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:08:10 UTC No. 16502347
>>16502345
Would you fuck off?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:08:24 UTC No. 16502349
>>16502345
One side of the party embraced full on communist fascism. You not realizing this shows either you're a retard or pretending to be.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:08:30 UTC No. 16502350
>>16502328
>I dont want DEI shit.
and who said it needs to be DEI shit? especially now with big Don on the throne and Elon as a hound, ffs we're soon to have 50t~100t to orbit for less than 10m, we finally have some leeway to eterate and think BIG.
instead of making starship into a jack of all trades take advantege of it's lifting capabilities to build purpose built structures in orbit, on the Moon, on Mars, fucking everywhere dammit. Allow yourself to dream a little; spaceports, orbtial assembly yards, moon elevator, lunar mass acellerators. The possibilities are endless.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:08:30 UTC No. 16502351
>>16502345
It tells you immediately when to boo or cheer without having to think too hard.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:08:59 UTC No. 16502352
>>16502347
>instantly sneeding
>>16502349
kek
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:09:41 UTC No. 16502353
People were laughing at Musk for trying to land rockets in 2015.
A decade later and Musk has rocked Boeing’s space sector pretty much shuttering it, and has hand picking the NASA admin
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:10:10 UTC No. 16502354
>>16502341
straight to camp then
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:10:15 UTC No. 16502356
>>16502281
even reddit is happy, and reddit is rarely happy with spacex or elon these days
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:10:57 UTC No. 16502359
>>16502301
>Lol, r/nasa is in a meltdown
and water is wet
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:11:12 UTC No. 16502361
>>16502356
based redditGOD
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:11:44 UTC No. 16502362
>>16502254
>when Starships start arriving, landing and populating the moon he'll say that SLS could've done it better
When Starships are regularly delivering entire bunches of bananas into the Indian Ocean, China will say, what the fuck happened to the Americans, lol.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:12:29 UTC No. 16502363
RIP Axiom
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:13:11 UTC No. 16502365
>>16502259
Who gives a shit DOGE will cut the fat regardless. You have 47 days!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:13:25 UTC No. 16502367
>>16502301
reddit melts down about musk every single day, every hour on the hour. So whats new?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:14:45 UTC No. 16502368
You may even get tired of winning
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:15:12 UTC No. 16502370
>>16502364
coming back to this in 2-4 years is going to be such a weird feeling of smugness and sadness.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:17:06 UTC No. 16502373
>>16502319
You can tell he's a tesla shorter cause they always go for this kind of cope.
>a lawsuit that destroys musk is just around the corner
>musk will be in jail any day now
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:17:07 UTC No. 16502374
>>16502371
the /v/ takeover is complete. Just look, every post is about twitter or reddit reaction. It's over anon, just give up.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:17:11 UTC No. 16502375
>>16502365
>gets stonewalled when a few republicans don't comply
and done
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:17:42 UTC No. 16502376
>>16502371
reddit/twitter general
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:18:57 UTC No. 16502378
>>16502350
>instead of making starship into a jack of all trades take advantege of it's lifting capabilities
>instead
If the capability exists for both, and Starship offers better performance than competitor, why would you want it? If capability doesnt exist, then there maybe some other products that can fill the need. But we shouldn't be pursuing useless needs just to increase the DEI quota. Optimize primarily for # of people in space, # of people on mars, # of people on moon, etc. And let companies duke it out for the best price/performance. If that means 1000/1000 architectures are Starship derivative where the value is greater than other competitors, then 1000/1000 contracts should go to SpaceX. No need for DEI
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:19:09 UTC No. 16502379
>>16502301
Damn I just checked. They overwhelmingly think he's a bad guy because a billionaire. I can't believe how much of a consensus that is. Isn't the idea that any wealth implies exploitation inherently communist?
>>16502345
That's just how it is man, not my fault
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:19:12 UTC No. 16502380
>>16502362
You can't stop this
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:19:21 UTC No. 16502381
>>16502375
DOGE will get stonewalled by an aide responding "Thanks for the suggestion, I'll send it to the senator right now", and directing it right to the SPAM folder.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:22:37 UTC No. 16502387
>>16502312
bezos doesnt get to pick shit, which he desperately would like to. whether its in his interest or not isnt the point. it's a massive power flex of elon to do this repeatedly, and bezos has a long history of envy against him
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:24:20 UTC No. 16502390
>>16502387
>whether its in his interest or not isnt the point
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:25:20 UTC No. 16502392
>>16502391
because she likes SpaceX
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:25:33 UTC No. 16502394
>>16502387
UH OH
STINKY
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:26:09 UTC No. 16502395
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/225784
>MOSCOW, December 4. /TASS/. The Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) conducted a successful launch of the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle from the Plesetsk cosmodrome with a spacecraft in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense. This was reported by the Russian military department.
Today's Soyuz-2-1b has launched. No clue if we'll get any visual confirmation
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:27:24 UTC No. 16502397
>>16502391
Spaceguy5 acts like he had a juicy retirement plan at Boeing lined up that got all fucked up by the ongoing shakeups around SLS.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:27:24 UTC No. 16502398
>>16502391
I was riling him up on bluesky, he sent me a pic of her in a Gitmo halloween costume, and then blocked me
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:27:25 UTC No. 16502399
>>16502395
>polar orbit
>MoD
spysat
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:28:43 UTC No. 16502403
>>16502398
Like a real pic or a photoshop?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:29:48 UTC No. 16502405
>>16502391
When NASA inevitably thrives it will be because of those under Issacman. Any failings, no matter where, will be directly his fault.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:29:49 UTC No. 16502406
>>16502378
>If the capability exists for both, and Starship offers better performance than competitor, why would you want it? If capability doesnt exist, then there maybe some other products that can fill the need.
I might've typed it wierd since I fail to see where we disagree, I didn't say we NEED to force artificial competition, I said that I would like to see more than one type of archtecture being used, by all means we should be using starship for whatever it can do, but things like space habitats and on surface infrastructure are probably gonna be purpose built
>Optimize primarily for # of people in space, # of people on mars, # of people on moon, etc. And let companies duke it out for the best price/performance. If that means 1000/1000 architectures are Starship derivative where the value is greater than other competitors, then 1000/1000 contracts should go to SpaceX.
This is more of a preference difference for me but again I don't disagree with you, although I don't think Elon plans on enfolding the entirety of spaceflight/settlement
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:30:08 UTC No. 16502407
>>16502390
the post was about bezos being jealous of elon's ever-increasing power, mr brainlet
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:30:14 UTC No. 16502408
All things considered, Bridenstine-Nelson-Isaacman is a really good run for NASA.
I didn’t think I’d like ballast bill, but he’s been good. A million times better than Bolden, that’s for sure
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:30:44 UTC No. 16502410
>>16502403
A real pic, it was pretty funny. Would post it, but blocked and can't find it easily online.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:31:26 UTC No. 16502412
>>16502391
Because she would kill SLS at the first chance
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:31:27 UTC No. 16502413
>>16502410
What circumstances led to lori wearing a gitmo costume?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:32:40 UTC No. 16502414
>>16502375
Give me a list of these "republicans" and I will solve our little problem...
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:32:44 UTC No. 16502415
>>16502399
https://x.com/RussianSpaceWeb/statu
>A Soyuz rocket lifts off from Plesetsk with a military payload, most likely the ninth Lotos-S1 electronic intelligence satellite.
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat
>The Russian Lotos-S1 (14F145) satellites are one component of the next generation ELINT satellite system Liana. A development version was flown as Lotos-S (14F138). The Liana system replaces replaces both the Tselina-2 with Lotos satellites and the naval US-PM with Pion-NKS (14F139) spacecraft.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:32:46 UTC No. 16502416
>>16502408
Yeah I thought he'd be fucking terrible but despite policy directives it seemed like he personally was converted by Starship
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:32:53 UTC No. 16502418
>>16502413
being based?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:33:50 UTC No. 16502419
>>16502391
>Twitter
he has a browser addon to chance mentions of X to Twitter? holy seethe haha
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:36:33 UTC No. 16502420
>>16502419
It just looks like that anon, blame elon.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:36:54 UTC No. 16502421
>>16502408
The best thing Nelson did was nothing. This admin has been effectively on autopilot. The bare minimum
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:36:57 UTC No. 16502422
>>16502419
The guy's just anti-SpaceX, he's anti-Musk, SpaceX, Tesla, X, etc.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:37:57 UTC No. 16502424
>>16502422
The whole ecosystem.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:38:26 UTC No. 16502425
>>16502419
>Being buttblasted over X vs twitter
>accidentally pointing out even elon hasn't fully made the transition yet
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:39:17 UTC No. 16502428
>>16502419
Looks the same for me.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:39:39 UTC No. 16502429
>>16502427
Communism on full display. Ironic the tranny is trying to make fun of reddit with that picture.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:40:17 UTC No. 16502430
>>16502421
Yeah well considering Nelson effectively conceived SLS it’s pretty impressive seeing how bullish he is on SpaceX
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:41:49 UTC No. 16502432
I don't really care, but american politics are fucking weird
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:42:14 UTC No. 16502433
>>16502235
lmao jared approves it and then goes and performs it himself
based
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:42:21 UTC No. 16502434
>>16502431
Lmfao we are in the best timeline
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:43:40 UTC No. 16502437
>>16502432
Its simple. Those who want less government in their life vs those who want you to worship the government as their god/nanny. Its the story with most politics in the west.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:49:14 UTC No. 16502441
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:51:53 UTC No. 16502446
>>16502301
It's always eye opening when I go to a community so set against accomplishing anything useful.
Not to mention ignorant, Someone there is using bill nelson being an astronaut as a reason why he was qualified to be admin lol.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:52:48 UTC No. 16502448
>>16502364
grim.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:53:08 UTC No. 16502449
Are you guys basing your optimism on anything other than his relation to Elon?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:53:26 UTC No. 16502450
>>16502301
NASA should be melting down. Time for housecleaning
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:54:04 UTC No. 16502452
>>16502301
It's not possible that anyone who likes space would dislike this pick, but also the ones who hate space would particularly hate new admin
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:54:30 UTC No. 16502453
>>16502449
Well he's also a successful business man so he should be at least competent at running an organization efficiently.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:55:24 UTC No. 16502455
>>16502449
Were you born yesterday? Do you live under a rock?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:56:49 UTC No. 16502456
>>16502449
Yes. Elon says
>jump
and I say
>will that be with a rimjob reacharound master?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:58:49 UTC No. 16502462
>>16502449
Yeah, because we know who he is and are not some retarded tourist like you. Go back.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:59:22 UTC No. 16502463
>>16502449
Self made billionaire with a passion for space to the point where he's spent hundreds of millions of his own money with no return? Yeah that's the guy I want steering things at NASA. Knows how to run an organization and wants to see real stuff happening
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:59:49 UTC No. 16502464
>>16502301
Are redditors physically capable of thinking in anything besides marvels terms?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:00:50 UTC No. 16502467
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:02:33 UTC No. 16502470
>>16502467
>Why would one want to build a civilization on a hostile rock
Is this retard unaware that there is a functionally infinite amount of hostile rocks out there, with 0 non hostile rocks?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:02:35 UTC No. 16502471
>>16502449
He is a modern day private astronaut
He's a successful businessman
He's very pro space exploration and manned human exploration
He's very pro SpaceX
He's very pro human exploration
He's very pro mars mission
He's runs multiple successful businesses and knows the ins and outs of running a large organization
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:02:50 UTC No. 16502472
>>16502465
>The next 30 years
NO NO NO THIS CANT BE REAL
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:03:43 UTC No. 16502475
>>16502465
define "stable"
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:04:16 UTC No. 16502476
>>16502470
Its a generic brainlet take. Particularly popular amongst the left.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:06:47 UTC No. 16502479
>>16502464
being valued at 14X the nasa budget, everyone knows spacex is desperately in need of govt handouts to function
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:07:42 UTC No. 16502483
>>16502474
>planning
Look at the history of SLS plans and tell me what they indicate about the chances SLS will send people to the moon before 2029.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:10:09 UTC No. 16502484
>>16502475
no communist shittery, no ww3
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:10:54 UTC No. 16502487
>>16502474
>he thinks Artemis 3 (is it 4 now? 5? lol) will land on the Moon hahahaha
>in the next 4 years HAHAHAHA
nigga they cant built more than 1 SLS every two years. the cadence alone prohibits using it. let alone Boeing's inevitable and well deserved bankruptcy
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:13:46 UTC No. 16502493
>>16502487
Boeing is the important part here. Thanks to SpaceX space isn't a free lunch anymore. New CEO is trying to get them out of space to focus on their core business. They might get a fuck huge severance check for SLS, Starliner, etc to keep everyone happy but at that point who cares
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:16:55 UTC No. 16502497
>>16502493
the IP should be sold off, and the engines put BACK into museums
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:17:19 UTC No. 16502498
>>16502464
lol
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:18:49 UTC No. 16502501
>>16502467
Why would anyone want to climb a hostile mountain?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:23:46 UTC No. 16502507
>>16502395
>>16502415
i fully expect it to develop a leak and call me a nazi within a week
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:25:26 UTC No. 16502509
>>16502487
>Boeing's inevitable and well deserved bankruptcy
There's no American company to replace them, so they'd get bailed out.
inb4 you think Boeing is a space company
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:27:54 UTC No. 16502512
>>16502457
i was worried he would decline because he wanted to stay more hands on with spacex and private manned spaceflight.
good to know he'll accept the nomination.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:31:29 UTC No. 16502517
>>16502457
He accepted?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:33:53 UTC No. 16502522
>>16502364
SpaceX is set for dismantling, Starship has already been shut down by environmentalists, Musk is in British custody after being summoned to trial there over hatespeech (US extradited him with glee).
100 years of SLS, forever.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:34:12 UTC No. 16502523
>>16502517
sometimes i forget who is truly behind musk's ascension to power.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:40:55 UTC No. 16502530
>>16502223
His job will be easy. The only things he need to to is award all NASA contracts to SpaceX and fuck Blorigin over at every opportunity. That's likely why he was nominated.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:41:38 UTC No. 16502532
>>16502509
>purchase regulators
>make it impossible to compete with you
>collapse
>now you can't make planes
>still no one else can make planes
>no planes
Whatever form of government Mars has should definitely include something to prevent this from being possible
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:43:50 UTC No. 16502536
>>16502365
DOGE is just a new Grace commission with a funnier name. It can't do anything without Congressional approval.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:43:55 UTC No. 16502537
>>16502465
>>16502457
>>16502461
>>16502431
Can you feel it? The timeline is healing. Never forget they tried to claim it wouldn't affect spaceflight.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:44:22 UTC No. 16502539
>>16502530
>fuck Blorigin over
Highly doubt this will happen. Musk hasn't given any indication he wants this and SpaceX doesn't need it. There's no feud here, just Bezos throwing a tantrum
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:46:55 UTC No. 16502541
>>16502532
>purchase regulators
>make it impossible to compete with you
>collapse
>now you can't make planes
>still no one else can make planes
>no planes
Your description of the US aviation sector today sounds like what the US space sector will likely look like in 20-30 years judging by the way things are currently going
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:49:10 UTC No. 16502542
>>16502530
>fuck Blorigin over
Not needed at all, they do it to themselves. The power move is to do nothing or talk them up as the outcome is the same regardless.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:53:28 UTC No. 16502545
>>16502539
IDK, jared doesn’t make it sound like he’s keeping blue balls around
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:57:28 UTC No. 16502546
>>16502539
It's not like Musk would advertise anti-competitive intent.
The way it'll likely turn out is that SpaceX will get enormous government contracts while every potential rival gets scraps. Thus SpaceX will have enormous amounts of money for R&D to stay far ahead of everyone else, while the competition will fall further and further behind (It doesn't matter if ULA or Boeing or even Northrop Grumman get government contracts, because they're too dysfunctional to ever use their revenue to design a competitive product). SpaceX will continue to use their technological advantage to have huge margins, which they will use to further fund R&D and perpetuate the status quo.
Blorigin is the only potential competitor who has a significant private war chest, both from Bezos' wealth and likely preferential treatment for Kuiper contracts due to Bezos' connections to the Amazon board, hence why they're the only ones who will need particular effort in fucking over.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:57:29 UTC No. 16502547
>>16502530
why does everyone seethe so much about Blue Origin here? I genuinely want every rocket to be successful you sound mentally ill
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:58:24 UTC No. 16502549
>>16502547
>why does everyone seethe so much about Blue Origin here?
Especially given they have yet to do literally anything
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:58:29 UTC No. 16502550
>>16502461
That daughter is definitely not his
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:59:05 UTC No. 16502552
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:59:50 UTC No. 16502555
>>16502547
I didn't think fucking over Blorigin is a good thing. I just said what I think is the reason why Elon Musk made sure his buddy and business partner was nominated for NASA administrator.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:59:51 UTC No. 16502556
>>16502373
>You can tell he's a tesla shorter
He actually is one.
And he also backed one of the other EV companies that has already folded.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:01:20 UTC No. 16502558
https://x.com/NASA/status/186439643
Artemis update tomorrow
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:02:16 UTC No. 16502559
>>16502558
I didn't think SLS cancellation would happen THIS fast
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:02:21 UTC No. 16502560
>>16502546
>It doesn't matter if ULA or Boeing or even Northrop Grumman get government contracts, because they're too dysfunctional to ever use their revenue to design a competitive product
>Blorigin is the only potential competitor who has a significant private war chest, both from Bezos' wealth and likely preferential treatment for Kuiper contracts
BO has had plenty of money and twenty years to reach orbit. BO getting even more money will not make them go any faster. They aren't any different from ULA/Boeing/NG in this respect.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:04:30 UTC No. 16502561
>>16502537
I'm saving all these posts to make a collage in 4 years.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:04:45 UTC No. 16502563
>>16502549
That’s not true, they have a very technically advanced sounding rocket that they chose to use as a toy.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:08:03 UTC No. 16502565
>>16502547
Blue earned the hate it gets when it sued NASA over the original HLS bid that it felt entitled to.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:09:14 UTC No. 16502567
>>16502560
>BO has had plenty of money and twenty years to reach orbit.
BO has not had "plenty" of money for more than half of those 20 years. Bezos pouring money into Blorigin is a relatively recent phenomenon.
BE-4 development started in 2011. It's not surprising if it takes 13 years to develop a rocket that would be the world's most advanced if it wasn't for SS/SH. Raptor started work around the same time, and SS/SH only recently became barely operational as a launch system.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:11:02 UTC No. 16502569
>>16502565
The HLS contract should never had been given to just a single provider. It's good that this was eventually rectified.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:11:48 UTC No. 16502570
>>16502547
At this point BO has been a net negative for space. Lawsuit after lawsuit. We like space here.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:13:07 UTC No. 16502573
>>16502556
Specifically the company run by a known scam artist lmao. He was so blinded by Elon hate that he gave money to a known swindler
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:13:35 UTC No. 16502574
>>16502565
This. There were also lawsuits about patenting drone landings, and use of LC-39a
>>16502569
ok, jeff
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:14:10 UTC No. 16502577
>>16502569
You would be correct if a second provider was real (there aren't any).
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:15:05 UTC No. 16502578
>>16502536
>DOGE is just a new Grace commission with a funnier name
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace
>created by executive order in 1982
>purpose was to reduce the government debt by eliminating government waste
>slogan was "drain the swamp"
>most recommendations were ignored by congress, but a few were approved
wtf history is repeating itself
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:15:11 UTC No. 16502579
Get you a President that posts Starships on his blog
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonald
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:15:42 UTC No. 16502581
>>16502569
Explain why
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:15:52 UTC No. 16502582
>>16502558
inb4 the Artemis II Orion's heat shield needs to be replaced meaning a destack and a huge delay
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:16:05 UTC No. 16502583
>>16502579
I already have one
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:16:24 UTC No. 16502585
>>16502319
What did people expect? Elon Musk's Twitter purchase + $200 million PAC to elect Trump wasn't a donation, it was an investment from which he expects returns.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:18:08 UTC No. 16502586
>>16502584
Color me shocked!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:18:41 UTC No. 16502587
>>16502431
>name calling isn't very mature of you
>t. i am calling you immature
why are the tribe all like this? zero self awareness
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:18:47 UTC No. 16502588
>>16502579
GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:19:20 UTC No. 16502589
>>16502569
>The HLS contract should never had been given to just a single provider.
Blue should have actually tried, both their and the Dynetics vehicles were jokes.
Jeff was publicly humiliated and it led to them bidding a substantially better vehicle for the second round.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:20:40 UTC No. 16502594
>>16502588
Anon this is a rocket forum not your personal blog, you don't need to transcribe everything you're doing
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:21:17 UTC No. 16502595
>>16502581
Because otherwise there will only be one moon lander. If NASA wants to go to the moon more times than the initially contracted ones, it will have to negotiate with a monopoly provider. If it wants to break that monopoly, it will have to give a contract to another company to develop a second lander, which will mean a years long hiatus of moon landings. So better give that contract now.
Furthermore, NASA spending should be not just for space exploration, it should also be for industrial policy. That means creating a healthy industrial ecosystem where there are no monopolies and no singular concentrations of expertise in the private sector.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:22:40 UTC No. 16502596
>>16502595
I was unaware NASA had issues contracting with a monopoly provider. Is this a recent phenomenon?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:22:48 UTC No. 16502597
>>16502578
>They fell for it
>AGAIN
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:23:26 UTC No. 16502599
>>16502578
migabros wtf is this
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:23:35 UTC No. 16502600
>>16502589
AFAIK the reason the first BO proposal was such a joke was because the initial HLS contract emphasized speed of development to meet the 2024 target. It wasn't the lander design BO wanted to build.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:23:47 UTC No. 16502602
>>16502595
monopolies are good faggot
read Thiel
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:24:58 UTC No. 16502603
>>16502596
Just because you ignore a problem, doesn't make it not a problem.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:28:27 UTC No. 16502606
>>16502602
What has Thiel come up with that a century of economic mainstream thinking missed?
In mainstream economic theory, there are of course special cases where monopolies are superior. An example is the case of "natural monopolies", which is when the advantages of scale outweigh the advantages of competition. Examples are power grids. Such monopolies must be heavily regulated or even outright owned by the state, because otherwise they will become massive rentseekers and a drag on the economy.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:28:33 UTC No. 16502607
>>16502605
no not by a longshot
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:29:03 UTC No. 16502609
>>16502303
>giant spacecraft land on the moon and mars
>earthing back home: we had a good run...
The Fountainhead is a book about reality. There are people that don't care about success or failure, they just care if we succeed or fail with their permission.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:29:09 UTC No. 16502610
>>16502578
>history is repeating itself
Time is cyclical.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:29:28 UTC No. 16502611
>>16502547
I want them to work faster. I once expected them to have had a successful rocket working for years by this time with work on the next rocket started.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:31:19 UTC No. 16502613
>>16502605
The current one literally went to space lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:31:27 UTC No. 16502614
>>16502569
Why is more than one provider for that part necessary while other parts could fail with no backup?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:31:54 UTC No. 16502616
>>16502588
why are you making that noise?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:32:13 UTC No. 16502618
>>16502605
Why do you think Bill was called ballast?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:33:25 UTC No. 16502619
https://x.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/
>NASA will hold a news conf tomorrow, Dec 5, at 1:00 pm ET, to provide an update on Artemis. In- person at NASA HQ and online (NASA+). With Bill Nelson, Pam Melroy, Jim Free, Cathy Koerner, Amit Kshatriya, and Reid Wiseman.
>Hopefully they'll finally say what the problem with the Orion heat shield is. They said in Oct they'd found root cause of the "char loss," but wouldn't disclose it. The heat shield for Artemis II is already built so they have to figure out how to fix it.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:34:29 UTC No. 16502621
>>16502578
>wtf history is repeating itself
Trump has an extremely long and sharp memory and he is clearly a fan of the last chief executive from outside of the political establishment, Ronald Reagan, so he repeats a lot of the moves Reagan made. If you were to read a bunch of old newspapers from the 1980s and late 1970s you'd be able to start predicting everything Trump will do.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:35:53 UTC No. 16502623
>>16502530
>>16502547
Blue origin needs to be successful if you want to see price wars
That said if they can't bid as low as spacex, too bad
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:36:23 UTC No. 16502625
>>16502614
It's not so much about redundancy as it is about reducing the cost of future missions by increasing NASA's negotiating leverage with its contractors. It's likely that NASA will want to purchase many many moon landings in the future, due to the likely Space Race 2.0 with China.
Also: the job that's being done by Orion/SLS shouldn't have been a monopoly either
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:36:43 UTC No. 16502626
>>16502618
Reminder that Bill is why that teacher got bumped onto Challenger.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:37:39 UTC No. 16502627
>>16502623
>too bad
For everyone that isn't Elon Musk, indeed.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:37:56 UTC No. 16502628
>>16502584
>sls towers cost 5 billions
>esa scaffold won't move
they say rocket science is hard but clearly stage zero is even harder
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:41:02 UTC No. 16502630
>>16502606
Competition takes money away from innovation. Since we live in an innovation based economy, competition is bad. Starship exists because the Falcon 9 has no competition. The Mars city will only exist because Starlink has no competition. Monopolies are good.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:42:20 UTC No. 16502631
>>16502630
Monopolies are only good when there's an ambition other than making competition go out of business.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:43:16 UTC No. 16502633
>>16502628
It will probably end up being bottleneck for SpaceX too, I do wonder how much of starship battering it can take.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:44:32 UTC No. 16502634
>>16502595
SpaceX being a natual monopoly because its competitors are dogshit is neither a bad thing or a fault of SpaceX or NASA.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:45:21 UTC No. 16502637
>>16502430
When he conceived SLS he thought it would work.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:48:12 UTC No. 16502640
>>16502631
>competition
Can you read
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:48:21 UTC No. 16502641
>>16502605
I thought this was the general for spacefags?
grim
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:48:26 UTC No. 16502642
>>16502639
>Taps the sign
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:49:33 UTC No. 16502643
>>16502630
I assume the implicit assumption here is that the monopolist who decides how the monopoly rents will be allocated will be Thiel or one of his buddies.
An economist would probably reply that competition causes innovation by incentivizing it, as well as eliminating the dinosaurs who cannot or will not innovate. If companies cannot obtain money for R&D from operating profits due to competition causing low margins, then companies can raise the money from capital markets or state industrial policy.
You should ask whether your theory can explain a contemporary phenomenon: how can China have such intense competition in EVs, batteries, photovoltaics, wind turbines, etc, and yet they are world leading and innovating fast
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:51:57 UTC No. 16502644
>>16502640
Anon said it in a dumb way, "monopolist behavior" is when a company abuses its position to undermine and/or place hurdles in the way of potential competition.
Like the stuff Apple has been getting in trouble for with their app store.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:52:02 UTC No. 16502645
>>16502634
>being a natual monopoly because its competitors are dogshit
That's not what "natural monopoly" means, at least not in economic theory. Natural monopoly means that an inability to compete with the market leader is a phenomenon that is inherent to the underlying technology, irrespective of skill or business acumen.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:53:12 UTC No. 16502648
>>16502639
>he got tired of winning
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:54:11 UTC No. 16502649
>>16502645
reusable rocket is the underlying technology
barrier of entry is the upfront investment into reusable rocket tech
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:54:41 UTC No. 16502650
>>16502643
>how can China have such intense competition in
IP theft and wage slave labor
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:56:14 UTC No. 16502651
>>16502644
i tend to compare spacex to valve/steam in terms of their position in the market.
they're both merit-based monopolies with leaders that have strong ambition and drive and their own moral standards, grooming their children to become heirs and continue their vision. both are also private companies that are not nearly as beholden to stockholders.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:56:16 UTC No. 16502652
>>16502643
This is a communism adjacent 0 sum argument. You would innovate despite having 0 competition because your innovation would bring in more money. That's what we see.
>China
Because the world can't get enough. Supply/demand. They're rolling in it right now. Also subsidies.
>>16502650
Not here. China's just ahead of us.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:56:43 UTC No. 16502653
>>16502649
And why is that a natural monopoly?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:58:07 UTC No. 16502655
>>16502648
More like we don't trust a victory until after we're certain that the enemy is dead
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:59:03 UTC No. 16502657
>>16502650
Who are they stealing from, seeing as they're at the cutting edge of technology? Alien flying saucers that crashed on the Tibetan plateau and that they didn't tell anyone about?
If low wages was the key to China's industry, that model should have broken long ago, considering the meteoric rise of Chinese average wages
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:59:48 UTC No. 16502658
>>16502644
>competition
What am I missing here
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:02:43 UTC No. 16502661
>>16502655
Even then I wanna kick the corpse a couple times just to be sure.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:02:50 UTC No. 16502662
>booster catch at night
I really want to see this. Do you think it'll happen next year?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:03:16 UTC No. 16502664
>>16502652
>You would innovate despite having 0 competition because your innovation would bring in more money. That's what we see.
That's often not what we see. There are several reasons to this. One is just that organisations tend to become stale and dysfunctional over time. If there is no competition to eliminate stale and dysfunctional companies, then this staleness and dysfunction will perpetuate in the economy.
However, the biggest reason is "creative destruction". This is when an innovation cannibalizes the existing capital. A good contemporary example is EVs. Car makers didn't really want to build a good EV because it would cannibalize their existing product lines and associated factories. They had to be forced to do so by competition from new entrants such as Tesla.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:03:46 UTC No. 16502665
>>16502657
>Who are they stealing from
Every non Chinese company that operates in China is subject to IP theft.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:05:00 UTC No. 16502667
>>16502662
The FAA does not allow night catches.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:05:09 UTC No. 16502668
>>16502623
Makes you wonder how long Bezos will keep losing money on BO until it goes tits up
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:06:06 UTC No. 16502669
Here's a post explaining why monopolies might not be bad
https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/statu
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:07:09 UTC No. 16502671
That $350bil valuation? LOW. WEAK. SAD!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:08:10 UTC No. 16502673
>>16502669
Spaceflight?
>inb4 spacex
WRONG.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:09:10 UTC No. 16502674
>>16502671
>400b with jared as nasa chief
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:10:19 UTC No. 16502676
>>16502653
>Why is it a natural monopoly when their underlying technology allows for them to launch 10-50x more than their competitors per year?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:12:17 UTC No. 16502678
>>16502231
No.
ICPS + Orion is decent bit above even the nominal amount that FH can yeet to LEO, and FH has never gotten even close to that to any Orbit, instead being used to yeet lower masses to higher energy orbits like GTO, or escape trajectories. I have heard that the upper stage is structurally incapable of lifting the theoretical mass to LEO.
>>16502258
This, but expendable, might be enough.
I do not hate it.
>>16502245
>what even is a parable?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:17:43 UTC No. 16502681
>>16502667
Lord Elon and Vivek sir disagree
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:19:11 UTC No. 16502682
>>16502668
That doesn't say that monopolies are good for R&D. In fact, it says that monopolies are BAD for R&D. It says that oligopolies might be good for R&D:
>More comprehensively, in 1967, he demonstrated that there was an "inverted-U" relationship between R&D intensity and concentration
>In essence, when markets are too consolidated, firms lack the incentives required to invest in innovation, and when they're too large, they lack the means. R&D needs scale, and little firms don't have it; R&D needs reasons, and why would a monopolist care?
I must take issue with using a regression analysis as proof of anything. It might be a conflation of cause and effect. It might be that it's not lack of competition that causes R&D intensity, rather it is that R&D intensity is what causes the barriers to entry that ward of competition.
Also, I take issue with this claim:
>When monopolies stagnate or they fail to maintain their positions virtuously, creative destruction ensues and the temporary monopolist can be displaced by new competitors: innovative rivals and price-competing imitators.
That can only happen if there are companies in tightly related sectors who are waiting in the wings and ready to pounce on weakness. Seldom is anyone going to develop super high tech completely from scratch with no experience; the barriers to entry will be too high.
In any case - this whole need of using monopoly rents to fund R&D can be avoided by having efficient capital markets that can provide money to R&D.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:20:58 UTC No. 16502684
>>16502676
That's not "natural monopoly".
Other companies could, theoretically, develop equivalent technology, if they had the funds. Natural monopoly is when there is no theoretical way to be competitive with the market leader.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:21:34 UTC No. 16502685
>>16502678
Launching Orion on commercial vehicles would involve two launches and an in orbit docking.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:21:44 UTC No. 16502686
>>16502408
Don’t forget, honorable mention steve jurczyk
>awards Starship the HLS contract
>dies and refuses to elaborate
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:22:07 UTC No. 16502687
>>16502678
I think New Glenn could launch Orion to TLI and still reuse the booster if it had the right upgrades to a second and third stage
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:23:06 UTC No. 16502690
>>16502685
Even four (!) fully expendable Falcon Heavies would be a fraction of a single SLS cost. Offload it to New Glenn and FH who cares at this point
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:23:45 UTC No. 16502693
>>16502684
>no theoretical way to be competitive
that's one way natural monopoly may form but it's not the actual definition
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:24:19 UTC No. 16502694
>>16502690
>four (!)
wtf do you need 24 FH launches for
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:24:41 UTC No. 16502696
>>16502686
Seriously underrated dude and moment
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:24:50 UTC No. 16502697
>>16502684
No one cares about your definition.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:27:02 UTC No. 16502704
>>16502685
You might be able to pull off a lunar Orion mission with a pair of Vulcans. One Vulcan to launch the capsule to LEO and a New Glenn to launch the booster would give more significant margins
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:28:24 UTC No. 16502705
>>16502694
Building a 1000 ton Mars cycler?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:28:38 UTC No. 16502707
>>16502695
What a sad end to a sad story.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:29:17 UTC No. 16502708
remember jared was working on a private astronaut training company? i wonder what will happen to it now that he's moving on to nasa.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:29:52 UTC No. 16502709
>>16502704
Throw ULA or BO a bone. Hefty contract to whip up either a Centaur V or a GS2 that launches and docks with Orion and goes to the Moon. Let’s revive ACES
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:30:51 UTC No. 16502711
>>16502695
SLS bros...
It's so fucking over
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:31:07 UTC No. 16502712
>>16502695
i dont get how congress is going to approve canceling sls. the dems still control half of it.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:31:56 UTC No. 16502713
>>16502695
Quick /sfg/, make a proposal for getting Orion without SLS!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:32:49 UTC No. 16502714
>>16502712
What possible rationale could they muster up NOT to, when SpaceX is right there being orders of magnitude cheaper?
>>16502713
Man-rate FH
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:34:05 UTC No. 16502715
>>16502714
>What possible rationale could they muster up NOT to
easy. try and hobble trump as much as possible. lawmakers do it to the other side all the time.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:34:12 UTC No. 16502716
>>16502713
Reusable starship booster
Create a disposable starship 2nd stage
Use Orion as 3rd stage
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:34:41 UTC No. 16502717
>>16502681
SIR
SIR
DO NOT REDEEM!
SIR DOGE WILL BE VERY ANGRY
DO NOT REDEEM THE ROCKET SIR!
SIR!!!!!
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:35:34 UTC No. 16502718
>>16502707
I will comfort her.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:35:55 UTC No. 16502719
>>16502713
Falcon Heavy launches Orion and Vulcan/New Glenn launch a space tug stage that will dock to it in LEO. Use existing docking hardware from something like the Cygnus on the space tug. There, now you made everybody in the private industry happy and no monopoly.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:37:04 UTC No. 16502720
>>16502714
>What possible rationale could they muster up NOT to, when SpaceX is right there being orders of magnitude cheaper?
That's the entire problem lol. It will not bring jobs and money to their states.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:37:04 UTC No. 16502721
>>16502709
Launching Orion on a Vulcan and docking it to a modified Centaur V launched on New Glenn is probably the option that requires the least new hardware to be developed.
The problem with all of these ideas is that Orion is still a mess of a spacecraft that only marginally less slow and expensive than SLS. Even if it could be launched on a partly reused three-stage New Glenn you run right into the fact that that spacecraft itself costs several billion dollars and takes multiple years to refurbish between flights. Even with a good booster you barely see any improvement in mission cadence.
And we might find out tomorrow that the heat shield is fucked up beyond all fixing
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:37:47 UTC No. 16502722
Top moments in no particular order:
>watching FH demo live, fairings opening to a tesla with starman
>SH tower catch
>Astra powerslide; furiously refreshing /sfg/ and laughing my ass off
>watching HLS procurement live, SpaceX Starship wins, bonus points for the story to BO holding an emergency meeting and crying because they found out the news at the same time the public did
>Opening twitter and seeing jared fucking isaacman nominated as NASA admin
Honorable mentions: NASA linking a k-12 website for ALPCA, FAA public chica public zoom meeting, starhopper, SN15 landing, Soyuz LES firing on a live human launch, Ares I-X because I saw it in person
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:40:12 UTC No. 16502723
>>16502708
Four years from now you can get astronaut training from the former NASA administrator. Fits his plans perfectly
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:41:13 UTC No. 16502724
>>16502713
>Bridenstack no longer possible
I've got nothing
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:42:14 UTC No. 16502726
>>16502695
is it possible to get tired of winning?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:43:23 UTC No. 16502729
Why are we so afraid of docking a spacecraft with a stage in orbit? We have been docking shit for 60 years. Is the added complexity that severe?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:45:08 UTC No. 16502731
>>16502558
what's the point of this really
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:45:52 UTC No. 16502733
>>16501880
>>16501880
ABM systems (do you even know what those letters stand for?) do not protect you from cruise missiles. Comprehensive cruise missile defense is completely impractical. Perfectly defending a country from counter-value nuclear strikes cannot be done, and even one nuclear strike against a coastal city succeeding is more than enough deterrence to maintain peace.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:46:43 UTC No. 16502734
>>16502731
Kek they’re probably going to announce a 1 or even 2 year delay. Heat shield issues, shits falling behind, time tables have already been missed, still dealing with le pandemic setting us back, space is hard, etc
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:47:33 UTC No. 16502735
>>16502319
Is he still pretending to be a republican?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:48:46 UTC No. 16502736
>>16502185
Wait what fucking Isaacman is the new NASA admin? I'm almost getting tired of winning at this point.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:50:48 UTC No. 16502740
>>16502736
He still has to be confirmed. This can be delayed pretty long, especially considering precedent set by the Trump Admin, and the slim majority means senators will use it as a power play.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:51:03 UTC No. 16502741
>>16502449
The man has a demonstrated passion for spaceflight. He demonstrated it by spending a considerable amount of his own money to put his own life on the line to experience spaceflight. He's not some dumbshit bureaucrat who couldn't less if he were in charge of NASA or the USDA.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:51:20 UTC No. 16502742
>>16502713
Launch on Vulcan/ACES, then refuel from a LH2 depot or a series of tankers. You can run this only with Vulcan if you really want, but New Glenn and Starship would be more ideal for depot work
Launch Orion on a Vulcan VC6 and dock it to a Centaur V launched on standard New Glenn. CV weighs more than NG's max payload so it'll need to get itself the rest of the way to orbit, but it's got 11 km/s in the tank without a payload so it should have more than enough margins to get Orion to TLI
Launch Orion on an upgraded three-stage New Glenn
Launch Orion on a Falcon Heavy, then use a second FH to put a mostly fueled upper stage into LEO to use as a tug
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:52:11 UTC No. 16502744
>>16502537
>the Hubble Space Telescope will be PERSONALLY fixed by the director of NASA
We are on the best timeline, and this is all thanks to Elon. The Great Man theory has been proven true.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:52:46 UTC No. 16502745
>>16502740
The rats in congress are more concerned with Attorney General, Department of Defense, and the FBI. NASA's not really going to come up on their radar
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:53:54 UTC No. 16502746
>>16502744
NASA head office will be in LEO by the end of the decade.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:54:47 UTC No. 16502747
>>16502678
that's incorrect, it's just the payload adapter, which is irrelevant for a capsule.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:58:04 UTC No. 16502750
>>16502722
Don't forget Nauka spinning the ISS around until it ran out of fuel (which did technically solve the problem).
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:59:07 UTC No. 16502751
>>16502747
Something does need to hold the ICPS.
I also have concerns about the stability, since Falcon is already quite long, and putting a big third stage on it only makes it longer.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:00:14 UTC No. 16502752
>>16502750
how do they consistently fuck up horrifically in the funniest of ways? first that, now this fucking (possible hypergolic) leak recently.
they truly are god's funniest mistake.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:00:31 UTC No. 16502753
>>16502751
Put it on Starship with an expendable second stage instead.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:02:41 UTC No. 16502757
>>16502752
All the old heads from the Soviet era died off and the new ones get paid so little that they can barely afford to eat. Any Russian engineer with any competence will seek towards the private industry or military.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:02:56 UTC No. 16502758
>>16502693
A market having barriers to entry is not the definition of a natural monopoly. "Barriers to entry" is a simple explanation some pop econ sites might present to you however that's not the actual definition. Almost every markets has barriers to entry, some very small, others greater.
The definition of a natural monopoly is when the economies of scale are so great in relation to the size of the market, that the no 1 actor in a market *always* has a cost advantage, no matter how big they are. I dug out my old microeconomics textbook, and this is what it says almost word for word: the average total cost falls with scale over the whole relevant output range, i.e. that for which you can find customers who are willing to pay a price that's above the production cost.
This means that the market will always become monopolized, because a monopoly is the only stable equilibrium. It also means that it might be beneficial to allow a monopoly, assuming it is regulated, because the benefits of scale outweigh the benefits of competition.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:05:08 UTC No. 16502759
>>16502695
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
CANCEL SLS
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:07:51 UTC No. 16502762
>>16502682
This post was meant as a reply to
>>16502669
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:08:09 UTC No. 16502763
>>16502752
don't forget doing the first ever (unintended) RTLS with proton
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:09:38 UTC No. 16502765
>>16502759
if sls is canceled then that means gateway will be canceled. america wont need to rely on international partners for a moon base anymore. and that's going to make europe very very very angry. expect sanctions on the US space sector soon.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:12:13 UTC No. 16502767
>>16502759
I’m sure they can recycle some of the program. Perhaps they can use the aluminum propellant tanks to make bicycle wheels.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:12:14 UTC No. 16502768
>>16502765
artemis accords aren't going anywhere
neither is artemis
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:13:43 UTC No. 16502769
>>16502768
europe doesnt want to bum a ride to space, they want to own the hardware
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:13:49 UTC No. 16502770
>>16502744
Great Man theory was always true. The only reason anyone thought otherwise is because the achievements of individuals are prevented and extinguished by commitees of nameless ghosts for the past several decades. Especially evident in govt, science, academia, and large companies.
Striving for personal greatness, wealth, and pride is not politically correct, it's selfish, colonial, individualist. Instead share (dilute) individual achievment into oblivion so no one gets credit. Hell, academics at one point signalled awarding all the CERN scientists Nobel prizes for the Higgs discovery instead of Higgs himself. I remember them trying to downplay his efforts at the time, for a field literally named after him.
Eventually nothing is achieved as no one has incentive to do so. Cultural marxist collectivism is insidious.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:14:24 UTC No. 16502773
>>16502765
they won't need to rely, but europeans will be allowed to come as a consolation price and will probably start doing something irrelevant (like canada-arm tier) when the base is expanded
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:14:24 UTC No. 16502774
>>16502758
I found a diagram that explains natural monopoly well
LRAC = long run average (total) cost (per unit of product) for a company
$ = cost of production / price of sale
Q = quantity (of product)
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:16:47 UTC No. 16502775
>>16502769
>they want to own the hardware
As if we have a choice on the matter anymore.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:17:26 UTC No. 16502776
>>16502765
If Gateway gets axed I can see the international angle moving towards a permanent lunar base. That's technically in the plans already but is currently so far out into the 2030s it doesn't have any solid elaboration. Contributing structure and equipment would give international partners a lot more ways to contribute than they have small Cygnus-derived space hut.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:18:19 UTC No. 16502777
>>16502733
AWACS and fighter jets can provide cost-effective protection against cruise missiles, unless the missiles are super fast, or you have a truly enormous coast line to protect
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:19:33 UTC No. 16502780
>>16502600
yeah no, it was pitched as "fast development" in the exact way as SLS was. ie muh legacy heritage components, contractors, shared effort. In reality it was the least likely to ever get built.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:19:38 UTC No. 16502781
>>16502769
Then they should build some hardware, simple as.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:19:44 UTC No. 16502782
>>16502769
the vague, inevitably unrealized promises of future collaboration are not going anywhere, and that will always be enough for ambitionless europeans
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:26:31 UTC No. 16502790
>>16502715
hobble him how? we're firing 80% of the nasa workforce. if congress wants to send the checks direct to boeing and locksneed, that's fine. the rocket in the meantime is not being built and is taken out of the mission architecture.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:27:47 UTC No. 16502791
>>16502790
>the rocket in the meantime is not being built and is taken out of the mission architecture.
How are you going to fund the replacement?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:28:11 UTC No. 16502793
>>16502713
I already posted this >>16502258
Haters can't claim there's a conflict of interest if you give the Orion launch job to a competitor
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:30:19 UTC No. 16502795
>>16502686
rest in peace sir
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:31:30 UTC No. 16502798
YOU claim SLS “needs to survive” through congress because of shuttle legacy jobs, but NASA claims they don’t have enough millennials and zoomers willing to work in stinky old new orleans at Michoud
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:31:33 UTC No. 16502800
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:31:52 UTC No. 16502801
>>16502720
To make it an easier sell to the Congress critters who hold the purse strings, couldn't it be proposed that those contractors be redirected to more useful projects? That way their districts still get the jobs + money, but just get them to make some actually useful shit. Habitation modules for a Moon base, maybe toss the solid rocket guys a military contract to build a bunch of IRBMs or something. I am not a fan of jobs programs for the sake of jobs, but if they are going to exist at least try to get something useful out of them.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:32:02 UTC No. 16502802
>>16502765
>that's going to make europe very very very angry.
Who gives a fuck? AUKUS made France "very very very angry" but America still did that. What happened? Nothing. Europeans seething is literally (LITERALLY) a non-issue. Europeans can't into space so who cares what those earthers lost up their own bureaucratic assholes think? They literally loath efficiently getting things done, call it "fascism", fuck those losers.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:33:34 UTC No. 16502806
>>16502722
SN8 had the most soul
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:34:03 UTC No. 16502807
And to think that all this happened because some Russian general didn't want to sell Elon an ICBM back in 2002, and instead chose to spit on his shoes...
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:34:15 UTC No. 16502808
>>16502777
>>AWACS and fighter jets can provide cost-effective protection against cruise missiles,
No they cannot. They can protect a small area centered around a carrier group but cannot protect every single American coastal city, 24/7.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:35:04 UTC No. 16502811
>>16502750
Yesss lol that was so entertaining. Forgot about that
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:35:15 UTC No. 16502812
>>16502807
Mike Griffin was there, so if we're being real there were already plans and machinations going on even back then.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:36:02 UTC No. 16502814
>>16502807
rogozinwiththetimemachine.jpg
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:38:01 UTC No. 16502818
>>16502791
?? discretionary spending. 50 million for an orion+FH adaptor.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:40:11 UTC No. 16502821
>>16502815
lol I hadn’t considered this
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:40:56 UTC No. 16502823
>>16502543
Why the hell not, I say. It would be what a good leader would do.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:41:36 UTC No. 16502824
>>16502713
*solves the problem*
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:42:16 UTC No. 16502825
>>16502751
>I also have concerns about the stability, since Falcon is already quite long
Literal nonissue.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:43:12 UTC No. 16502828
>>16502824
Genuinely though, why wouldn't this work?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:43:41 UTC No. 16502830
>>16502824
>that fairing and adapter with the nasa logo
that'll be 2 billion usd plus tip
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:43:49 UTC No. 16502831
>>16502824
Is this render considering a reusable SH? My gut says if you commit to an expendable SH (still cheap as hell for NASA to buy it from SpaceX for each launch) you probably just directly connect a Centaur V + ESM + Orion. None of this second stage shenanigans
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:45:09 UTC No. 16502834
>>16502825
Isn't it? The Center of Drag is also further forward due to the larger diameter of Orion.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:45:22 UTC No. 16502835
>>16502558
>ballast bill leading the call
that doesn't sound like good news for the heatshield
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:45:39 UTC No. 16502836
>>16502828
It would
>>16502830
all built in house at spacex. nasa isn’t allowed to touch it
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:46:51 UTC No. 16502840
>>16502815
SLS will fly at least twice, maybe three times, as those rockets are already paid for.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:47:54 UTC No. 16502842
>>16502831
That sounds more complicated and expensive desu. It would have more than enough DV to reuse SH in this configuration. Much easier and cheaper to just throw away an expendable second stage.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:48:34 UTC No. 16502844
>>16502808
Given 10km radar altitude and 20m target altitude, the radar line of sight radius is 430km. So the detection diameter could be 860km, assuming the radar is good enough. The US western seaboard is about 2,000km, eastern seaboard is about 3000km, gulf coastline about 1,500km, total about 6,500km.
6,500/860 = 7.6
To allow for some overlap in the detection circles, say about 15 AWACS at any one time to cover it. Given rotations in a ratio of 3:1, you'd need about 45.
In practice, a supersonic missile will be flying a lot higher than 20m above the surface most of the time, to avoid drag and thus increase range.
In the not too distant future, it will probably also be possible to both detect and track fast missiles from space from their heat.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:50:00 UTC No. 16502846
>>16502818
What discretionary pot of money is that? Congress approves spending and what it can be used for. Furthermore, Congressional authorization bills often can include specific requirements for what NASA must and must not do
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:50:32 UTC No. 16502847
>>16502839
>Human for scale
Is there one? The picture's too crunchy to tell.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:51:26 UTC No. 16502849
>>16502847
Exactly
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:52:31 UTC No. 16502852
>>16502605
Nelson went to space. Issaacman is definitely the first NASA admin to touch hard vacuum. That's a BIG leap in credibility forward.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:52:42 UTC No. 16502853
>>16502719
basically this, SLS is so fucking expensive that you can throw basically every US nuspace company (plus blorg and ULA) a bone for fixed price services and still come out 10x cheaper
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:53:35 UTC No. 16502854
>>16502844
You don't need a supersonic cruise missile. A subsonic cruise missile flying very close to the deck can go undetected for long enough that vectoring in interceptors to stop it in time isn't possible. To have any chance at all you would need an ENORMOUS amount of inteceptors in the air at all times, which means an even greater number on the ground, complete with crew.
Those interceptors aren't actually in the air protecting the entirety of both US coastlines at all times, as they would be for a carrier battle group. Neither are the AWACS. The kind of protection you're talking about is practical when you're trying to protect a small number of ships, not the entire coast. The cost would be immense, Brilliant Pebbles is peanuts by comparison.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:55:14 UTC No. 16502856
>>16502776
The euro cuckshed module among 20 landed starships will be a hilarious image
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:57:07 UTC No. 16502860
>>16502765
Who gives a shit gateway is a waste of time unless it's going to be a propellant depot (it's not)
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:58:37 UTC No. 16502863
>>16502765
This is a troll post but there simply is not that much hardware already built or deep in development from international partners that is not going to work as a surface module instead
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:58:41 UTC No. 16502864
>>16502765
Please
Gateway was always such a meme
>iss... but smaller.... And in a weird orbit!
Why don't they study an ANT colony
ON THE MOON
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:59:11 UTC No. 16502865
Got a new phone the other week, Pixel 9 Pro XL, and wanted to test out the astrophotography feature. Stuck it on a tripod and waited for some busy satellite passes to occur, this was the best one from that evening and I'm quite happy with it.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:59:37 UTC No. 16502866
>>16502815
Kek
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:00:06 UTC No. 16502867
>>16502854
>>16502844
And another thing:
>a missile
>singular
How many missiles can a single airplane shoot down? How many missiles can a single SSGN fire at a city? For this math to work in favor of the city you need a MASSIVE amount of aircraft in the air for every single potential target. This only works when you have a very small number of targets you're trying to protect; like carriers.
Play Harpoon
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:00:09 UTC No. 16502868
>>16502356
https://old.reddit.com/r/technology
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:03:50 UTC No. 16502874
>>16502815
SLS flying less than N1 would be crazy
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:08:15 UTC No. 16502876
>>16502776
Can they make it a moon base that's actually permanently occupied and not for only a few weeks a year?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:08:18 UTC No. 16502877
>>16502839
He was probably bummed he didn't get to see a booster catch live, any of us would be, but he'll probably come back to watch a future flight. Maybe not flight 7, but he'll be back.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:09:45 UTC No. 16502879
>>16502877
Prolly the first Florida Starship launch since it will be literally a 1 hour flight for him, that one can be a catch on the first try right?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:10:30 UTC No. 16502880
>>16502864
>Why don't they study an ANT colony
>ON THE MOON
That would be neat, I wanna see how they react to being on the moon.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:11:26 UTC No. 16502882
>>16502866
so, I'm trying to find how a generic cargo version would look for Энepгия, but so far I only came across blueprints and models showing a cylindrical fairing mounted on the main booster like picrel. I suppose that was the main idea for this configuration. Polyus was a special case, given that it didn't really need a fairing and was a spacecraft on its own.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:12:44 UTC No. 16502884
>>16502398
send all bluskiis to the gulag
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:13:20 UTC No. 16502885
>>16502879
>that one can be a catch on the first try right
The tower looks ready, but I haven't been paying attention to Florida. Maybe?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:14:00 UTC No. 16502886
>>16502882
I'm not aware of any pieces being built.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:14:38 UTC No. 16502888
>>16502876
It shouldn't be hard to evolve HLS or Blue Moon into a system that can handle crew rotations to the Moon at the same cadence Dragon handles sending crew to the ISS. Starship or Blue Moon's cargo variant will have enough payload capacity and launch cadence to send up the equipment needed to build the initial outpost, although Starship would allow for much more considerable designs.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:15:01 UTC No. 16502890
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:16:10 UTC No. 16502892
>>16502867
>How many missiles can a single airplane shoot down?
An F-15EX can carry up to 22 air-to-air missiles
>How many missiles can a single SSGN fire at a city?
A Russian Yasen-M can carry 32 missiles in silos plus extra missiles substituting for torpedoes in the torpedo room. An American Ohio SSGN can carry 154 missiles
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:20:23 UTC No. 16502896
>>16502882
>>16502886
iirc they actually built hardware for this for the Energia launch that would first test out the landing system for the boosters, which would fly in mid 1990. It would launch two satellites and also have a Proton block D stage inside the cargo fairing which would get those satellites into their final orbits. But the launch got cancelled at the end of 1989. It was written in the memoirs of one of the Energia project leaders, but can't recall who it was. Read it like 3 years ago. Had to google translate it.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:21:40 UTC No. 16502899
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:23:46 UTC No. 16502901
>>16502892
If you wargame it out you'll find that the math for defending the entirety of America from counter-value cruise missile strikes simply doesn't work. And that's why it isn't even attempted.
This is a very weird hill for you to chose to die on.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:25:21 UTC No. 16502903
>>16502185
Inshallah SLS will die.
Do you guys think spaceguy5 will:
a) Get laid off, or
b) Quit in a seething rage before that has a chance to happen?
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:26:06 UTC No. 16502904
>>16502901
Yeah, you'd need something covering not just the American sky, but the entire planet. Some intelligent stones perhaps
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:26:40 UTC No. 16502905
>>16502903
He absolutely won't quit, because where else would he go? Private industry doesn't want such unproductive waste-oids
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:28:27 UTC No. 16502906
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:28:58 UTC No. 16502908
>>16502904
We're talking about cruise missiles. Brilliant Pebbles for ballistic missile defense, it can't do shit to cruise missiles. Comprehensive defense against ballistic missiles is (now, with reusable Falcon 9 and even moreso with Starship) very cheap. Equivalent defense against cruise missiles is impossible.
This means America can defense itself against counter-force nuclear strikes, but not from counter-value nuclear strikes. That in turn means that deterrence-based peace is maintained.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:32:41 UTC No. 16502911
>>16502896
>>16502899
thanks, we were so close then to see one of these beauties flying in real life. What a shame, I guess it was bad timing due to the fall of the Soviet Union in the early 90s.
Moreover, we also lost the opportunity to see what other projects could follow afterwards. There were the Energiya-2 and Vulkan launchers. The former was supposed to be fully reusable with the boosters coming back as gliders!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6G
Meanwhile, the latter, was a more advanced version on steroids: 8 Zenit boosters, and a whole new upper stage, aiming for 200 tons to LEO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r7
We were robbed...
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:32:51 UTC No. 16502912
>>16502903
Do we have any idea what he actually does? There was a rumor going around a year ago that he was just a janitor, which might actually give him a better chance of survival than if he worked in some technical capacity
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:33:04 UTC No. 16502913
>>16502839
No, but roll with it.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:33:21 UTC No. 16502914
>>16502547
They should have been competition for SpaceX, with launches instead of lawsuits. I can't even care about them now until they actually launch something other than a carnival ride.
>>16502549
That is literally the reason why.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:34:49 UTC No. 16502917
surreal how back we are.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:40:39 UTC No. 16502921
>>16502633
Even then, SpaceX can still rebuild a new tower faster and cheaper.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:41:37 UTC No. 16502922
>>16502917
We're TOO back
I don't like it
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:42:42 UTC No. 16502925
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:43:09 UTC No. 16502926
>>16502912
A janitor at NASA would actually be doing real work on the regular. Spaceguy5 is the kind of guy who dicks around all day and attends a few meetings a week and thinks himself very important for all of this, but would immediately crumble if made to get a real job. This is why he loves NASA so much, a government agency where people aren't held accountable for their lack of productivity is the only place where people like him can thrive.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:43:27 UTC No. 16502927
>>16502917
doomposters got too cocky, gaanposters rise up
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:43:54 UTC No. 16502928
https://x.com/cas_space/status/1864
>Kinetica-2 Update: Work on the 2nd Stage fuel tanks has been completed. The 3.35m aluminium fuel tanks are designed to be sturdy and low-cost. With Kinetica-2, CAS Space will provide our global clients with a reliable and affordable option for megaconstellations.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:44:45 UTC No. 16502930
>>16502917
We're only back for four years, so Elon better make this count.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:45:18 UTC No. 16502931
>>16502429
>>16502427
>MUH COMMMIIEEEESSS!!!
Shut the fuck up you disgusting redditor
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:45:47 UTC No. 16502932
>>16502928
Too many Chinese companies to keep track of
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:46:20 UTC No. 16502933
>>16502722
>first FH dual booster landing
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:48:29 UTC No. 16502935
>>16502903
A team of psychoanalysts will be assigned to determine the exact amount of money he needs to be paid to continue getting humiliated in increasingly elaborate ways for the amusement of the upper administration at NASA.
>For three weeks, my job has been to paddle around this water feature outside the Administrator's office in a tiny boat made of scrap from the SLS H2 tank while singing showtunes
>If I stick around another six months I'll have enough to retire
>They're paying me in Tesla stock
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:48:48 UTC No. 16502936
>>16502722
any presentation or event from a musk company is always a good comfy moment here in sfg
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:49:48 UTC No. 16502938
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:50:46 UTC No. 16502939
>>16502922
I'm beginning to wonder if the shuttle era was the fluke and things progressing is normal. Imagine this pace all the way through the first interstellar ships
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:52:33 UTC No. 16502941
>>16502757
even Roscosmos is now making streetcar trams
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:52:41 UTC No. 16502942
>>16502936
>and that's uh- we're expecting half an order of magnitude of- an order of magnitude by the way is times ten, so half an order of magnitude would be five. so we're expecting half an order of magnitude of
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:58:15 UTC No. 16502946
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:58:27 UTC No. 16502947
>>16502939
The shuttle-era was normal, this is the fluke. You're not going anywhere and we have more important (never-ending) problems to worry about down here on Earth. You're delusional, now stop having dreams and ambitions and get back in the pod.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 23:59:09 UTC No. 16502948
>>16502765
fuck NHRO
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:00:21 UTC No. 16502949
>>16502865
VERY cool anon. Not enough hobby astronomy here.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:01:10 UTC No. 16502951
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:01:31 UTC No. 16502952
>>16502828
Not only would it work, it also won't shake the payload to death
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:05:21 UTC No. 16502953
>>16502876
Unlike Antarctica, there aren't entire months when the weather is too bad to get in and out.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:07:09 UTC No. 16502954
>>16502952
>A 33 strong cluster of the worlds most powerful engines are more payload friendly than 2 SRBs
KWAB
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:07:15 UTC No. 16502955
>>16502750
it spins like that every 90 minutes anyway you know, just in the opposite direction.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:08:48 UTC No. 16502956
>>16502955
That makes it okay then.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:10:56 UTC No. 16502958
>>16502956
makes it not a catastrophe since the ISS is built to handle that sort of thing multiple times daily.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:13:33 UTC No. 16502961
>>16502953
I hope pic is illegal. Bubble over and colonize the entire far side, make it look like Earth from the back, I don't care. Don't fuck up my view
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:16:48 UTC No. 16502965
>>16502961
You don't want to be able to point at the spot where people are living on the moon and see the glimmer of light from that place?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:17:01 UTC No. 16502966
>>16502961
TED
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:18:24 UTC No. 16502967
>>16502965
I get pissed when my neighbor leaves his light on which is functionally the same
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:19:28 UTC No. 16502969
>>16502967
Actually now that I think about it it isn't functionally the same at all. Imagine a new moon with city lights. Like a little cluster of stars moving across the sky
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:21:47 UTC No. 16502971
>>16502961
shut the fuck up
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:23:25 UTC No. 16502973
>>16502961
shut up, urfer
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:25:56 UTC No. 16502976
>>16502846
NASA decides what rockets it uses and for what missions. Develop SLS all you want, it won't land a man on the Moon
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:33:23 UTC No. 16502986
>he thinks rockets are real
ohnonono
should we tell him?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:35:00 UTC No. 16502989
>>16502986
>He thinks reality is real
Next thing you will say is that the ego is not an illusion of cognition. Begone!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:35:18 UTC No. 16502990
I can't stop watching the jiggling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:35:31 UTC No. 16502991
>>16502989
Quit talking to myself.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:35:52 UTC No. 16502992
(You) are actually a Boltzmann brain floating around.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:36:44 UTC No. 16502993
>>16502990
how many booba space channels are there now? jesus. they're cornering the market
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:37:59 UTC No. 16502994
reading alot of comments about isaacman. seems like the anti elon crowd are pro science mission / anti human spaceflight.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:40:17 UTC No. 16502995
>>16502994
libtards always were.
>science missions
IFLS, lots of easy do-nothing jobs for useless stem dweebs on earth
>manned spaceflight (traditionally)
Only a few alpha chads get to fly, everybody else sits at home and either appreciates it (right wing) or seethes at the inequality of it (left wing)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:40:51 UTC No. 16502996
>>16502994
>pro science mission
nah, it's only in this context. the moment a scientific payload is launched, then all of a sudden we have to fix urf's problems first.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:42:07 UTC No. 16502999
>axiom station is kill
>gateway station is kill
space station bros...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:43:20 UTC No. 16503000
>>16502999
O'Neill Cylinder or nothing
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:43:35 UTC No. 16503001
>>16502954
kill whites are bastards
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:51:13 UTC No. 16503004
Homer Hickam is so fucking based
https://x.com/realhomerhickam/statu
https://x.com/realhomerhickam/statu
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:51:39 UTC No. 16503005
are there any other space picks trump has to do? noaa? space force? faa space?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:54:05 UTC No. 16503007
>>16503006
I hate leftoid smugness
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:54:55 UTC No. 16503008
>>16503006
spacefags: we want nasa to be successful
that guy: its not about nasa succeeding, but that others should fail regardless
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:55:24 UTC No. 16503009
>>16503006
>cutting edge tech
B-but I thought that the whole point of SLS was the reuse of old, proven technology from the Shuttle era...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:57:41 UTC No. 16503011
>>16502767
the boosters would make very large ICBM's
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:58:35 UTC No. 16503012
>>16503010
Doubt Isaacman is petty enough for that, even if well deserved.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:58:43 UTC No. 16503013
>>16503006
>flawless
if we ignore the heatshield perfectly designed to cook astronauts to well done. delicious!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:58:48 UTC No. 16503014
>>16503004
He’s just like me fr
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:00:21 UTC No. 16503018
>>16503016
It's a wider downcomer.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:00:41 UTC No. 16503019
>>16503016
jefferies tubes
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:01:23 UTC No. 16503021
>>16503006
even in 2017 it made far more sense to bulk buy launches from SpaceX than to continue any SLS boondoggles
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:01:40 UTC No. 16503022
>>16503016
escape tunnel
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:02:40 UTC No. 16503023
>>16503016
concentric tanks on depot?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:03:03 UTC No. 16503025
>>16503016
>Doesn't match the diameter of a downcomer
It's probably a higher capacity header tank.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:03:47 UTC No. 16503026
possible new spaceplane spotted at china's x-37b's airfield
>A satellite image taken on November 29 that The War Zone obtained from Planet Labs shows the white-colored object, along with several smaller ones, which look to be vehicles and support equipment, at the southwestern end of the desert airstrip’s runway.
>What the larger object on the runway might be, or even its exact shape, is unclear. Though it looks broadly cylindrical from above, its body is also seen casting a distinctly wedge-shaped shadow. Some obscuration of markings on the runway may point to the presence of short stubby wings at one end. It has an overall length of around 32 feet.
>The recently observed object is comparable length-wise to the U.S. Space Force’s two secretive X-37B mini-shuttles (just over 29 feet long), though that alone does not mean there is a relationship between the two.
https://www.twz.com/space/mysteriou
my guess is that it's a test article
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:05:35 UTC No. 16503028
>>16503006
He's a fed
https://x.com/Spaceguy5/status/1864
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:05:37 UTC No. 16503029
>>16503026
hmmmm
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:06:40 UTC No. 16503030
>>16503016
new booster header tank, avoids the lox tank ice crystals issue by ignoring it
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:07:52 UTC No. 16503031
>>16502639
>guys we beat the beast system by voooooting
Top kek. They probably let it happen because 1. They needed a pressure relief valve from all the clown world shit, roll it back 10% for a bit and people are less likely to start fedposting. 2. The USD was absolutely fucked in a few years of the old government trajectory. They are letting Elon in to clean house so they can get maybe another 10-15 years instead and they have more say than the pig trough feeders so sorry military industrial complex and dmv shaniqua.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:08:12 UTC No. 16503032
>>16503006
The most advanced tech on SLS are 50 year old engines.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:08:56 UTC No. 16503033
>>16503016
Hey it's the tube from the meme
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:09:13 UTC No. 16503034
>>16503031
It's more that the arabs attacked Israel and so they arranged for Trump to win
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:11:10 UTC No. 16503036
>>16503028
>They're not going to fire me just because they canceled everything that I work on! It's not legal for them to do that! I'm a federal employee so I'm owed a paycheck!
January can't come fast enough
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:14:21 UTC No. 16503038
>>16503013
Hes talking about SLS not Orion
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:15:26 UTC No. 16503039
>>16503038
SLS will never fly without Orion so the point is moot
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:16:56 UTC No. 16503042
>>16503039
wrong
https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:17:24 UTC No. 16503043
>>16503039
It’s only going to fly without orion after Artemis II or III lol. You have 47 days!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:17:39 UTC No. 16503045
>>16503029
i figure they could tell if its the same type by the shadow. since they think its something else then maybe its something new.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:21:15 UTC No. 16503050
>>16503042
>block 2
>happening
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:25:52 UTC No. 16503056
>>16503050
SLS Block 2 is the only option to get large amount of mass to the moon. And no, don't say Starship. It can't even go beyond low earth orbit. Either it will happen or we will never get a moon base.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:28:50 UTC No. 16503060
>>16503056
Large amounts of mass? With ICPS?? Oh, or the non-existent EUS
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:30:16 UTC No. 16503061
>>16503060
You have been sucking that Musk sauce too much.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:32:22 UTC No. 16503064
>>16503016
We discussed this the other day my tourist friend, it is a LOX header tank for the booster.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:35:15 UTC No. 16503067
>>16503056
NASA gave out 2 Lunar cargo contracts, neither went to Boeing.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:38:44 UTC No. 16503070
>>16503012
hes not, straight up. spaceguy5 very specifically only attacks people that cant or wont impact his livelihood. isaacman is too nice of a guy to do that, wish he wasnt since that would be the funniest shit ever but it is what it is. id much rather have jared than some other cut throat DC talking head. honestly cant think of a better pick.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:44:26 UTC No. 16503072
>Current Starlink satellites at ~550km are ~65 times closer than geosynchronous satellites.
>Our next generation satellites will be at ~350km, so >100 times closer.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:45:41 UTC No. 16503074
>>16503072
>Our next generation satellites will be at ~350km
How quickly will their orbits decay?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:49:14 UTC No. 16503080
>>16503072
elon "order of magnitude" musk does it again
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:50:22 UTC No. 16503082
>>16503074
As long as it takes to use up all the argon
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:50:59 UTC No. 16503083
>>16503072
iss about to start playing frogger
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:51:06 UTC No. 16503085
>>16503010
He'll just implode in his own rage and become a black hole.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:52:22 UTC No. 16503087
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:03:16 UTC No. 16503096
>>16503010
Yes, when SLS is cancelled.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:03:47 UTC No. 16503097
>>16503083
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:04:16 UTC No. 16503098
>>16503019
kekt
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:06:23 UTC No. 16503100
>>16503097
>>16503098
kek
hivemind
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:14:47 UTC No. 16503102
>>16502398
>>16502410
He just reposted it, lmao.
https://x.com/Spaceguy5/status/1864
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:17:53 UTC No. 16503105
What's the likelihood that Isaacman steps down from flying on future Polaris missions and gives his seat to someone else, such as possibly Poteet?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:19:15 UTC No. 16503106
>>16503105
50/50
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:23:01 UTC No. 16503111
>>16503102
is it me or the guy kinda looks like an older version of jreg?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:23:34 UTC No. 16503112
>>16503102
Based Lori
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:24:03 UTC No. 16503113
>>16503056
At that cost it's never going to get enough mass to the moon.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:24:45 UTC No. 16503114
>Use the SLS to fly tonnage to some weird lunar orbit
>then load it into an HLS by hand
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:27:12 UTC No. 16503115
New chinese grasshopper by Space-Epoch (箭元科技) at Haiyang spaceport.
4.2m wide, about 27m tall, basically a bit wider and shorter than the old SX Grasshopper, open cycle methalox powered, stainless steel structure, it will do a ~mid altitude hop before a controlled splashdown. Space Epoch wants to demonstrate the viability of powered splashdown (then towed or brought in a ship) for recovery and reuse.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:27:44 UTC No. 16503118
>fram2 delayed to NET spring
whats with the delays?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:29:18 UTC No. 16503119
>>16503115
Sorry, actually may be high-ish altitude, probably similar to the Starship SN tests, but with more deportation to aim for the high seas.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:33:28 UTC No. 16503121
>>16503118
it's not that easy in rocketry
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:36:15 UTC No. 16503124
>>16503074
~few weeks to months
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:37:17 UTC No. 16503125
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:37:29 UTC No. 16503126
the list of astronauts who ended up serving as NASA Administrators:
>Richard H. Truly (1989-1992) - STS 2, STS 8
>Frederick Gregory (2003) - STS-51-B, STS-33, STS-44
>Charles Bolden (2009-2017) - STS-61C, STS-31, STS-45, STS-60
>Bill Nelson (2021-2025) - STS-61C
>Jared Isaacman (2025- ) Inspiration4, Polaris Dawn
stolen from spacenews comment section btw
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:39:47 UTC No. 16503128
>>16503125
>observing the Antarctica bases from space
sounds kino
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:43:10 UTC No. 16503132
>>16503126
First private astronaut as NASA admin.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:47:56 UTC No. 16503138
>>16503135
alabama will get some of the lost jobs back since space command will likely relocate to there, but what about the other places?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:51:33 UTC No. 16503142
>>16502722
Don't forget flap-chan
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:52:14 UTC No. 16503143
>>16503138
this is the one thing that is not a win
colorado space command is perfect
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:56:37 UTC No. 16503144
>>16503138
That isn't how it works. When politicians talk about job growth (at the local or state level) they are specifically talking about two things happening at the same time:
>Everyone with a job currently has a job.
>New jobs become available, even if it means that they have to import people to work those jobs.
If SLS is canned and all those STS-era Boomers and Xoomers are out of work, it won't help Alabama politics in the slightest if Space Command goes there because those people have no transferable skills into Space Command and they're all old as fuck and couldn't enlist in the military even if they wanted to. The only way that they can redress this problem is by giving those people hefty payouts/transfer opportunities to some do nothing job that is intended to serve as creative dismissal where they leave on their own after a few years. You can only make those Boomers/Xoomers happy, and the Alabama politicians happy if you keep an equilibrium somehow. Either by giving all the STS folx the boot when SLS is cancelled, and forcing them to move out of the state to find work elsewhere or go to some new job that NASA dangled in front of them that is also out of state. Or, alternatively, you somehow keep those people (you can't) and also bring in new jobs. There's going to be some pissed off Alabama Senators sooner rather than later.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:57:11 UTC No. 16503146
>>16503138
Who gives a fuck
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:02:36 UTC No. 16503147
>>16503138
River rock suppliers in shambles.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:03:12 UTC No. 16503149
>>16503135
kek, more like 900 minutes, oort poster
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:09:41 UTC No. 16503152
>>16502722
>watching re-entry *live* from a camera on a space craft
I had so many feels watching that IFT-2 re-entry.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:10:58 UTC No. 16503153
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/statu
>LAUNCH! SpaceX Falcon 9 B1081-12 launches Starlink Group 9-14 from SLC-4E, Vandenberg.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1864506
>SpaceX livestream (three in a row now from Vandy where the livestream began after the actual launch):
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:11:58 UTC No. 16503154
>>16503153
what are they hiding in vandeberg
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:15:50 UTC No. 16503156
>>16502722
That first Falcon 9 twilight launch shitting streamers of rainbow RCS gas arcs across the night sky was fucking KINO
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:47:54 UTC No. 16503171
/sfg/ mortuus est.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:49:43 UTC No. 16503172
>>16503171
>545 posts in 11 hours is dead
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:51:21 UTC No. 16503173
>>16502605
first NASA Admin who has done a spacewalk
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:53:16 UTC No. 16503174
>>16503173
It wasn't a spacewalk.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:53:31 UTC No. 16503175
>>16503171
Unless you want to speculate about what's going on at Vandenberg there's really not that much to talk about until the PSLV launch in seven hours
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:55:02 UTC No. 16503178
>>16502356
>>16502361
why does r*ddit want me to colonize the Jovian moons?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:56:04 UTC No. 16503179
>>16503172
Ita.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:57:00 UTC No. 16503181
>>16503174
first NASA Admin exposed to the vacuum of space outside his spacecraft for over 5 minutes
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:57:43 UTC No. 16503182
Surely you can name at least ONE moon from Jupiter that is not Io, Callisto, Europa, or Ganymede, right anon?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:59:09 UTC No. 16503183
Elon replied to Hullo There for like the first time in years
and its about how he thinks ISS should go which Troonman wants to preserve
kek, must be seething
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 03:59:37 UTC No. 16503184
>>16503183
Ahahaha
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:00:13 UTC No. 16503185
>>16503183
>first time in years
doubt
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:00:44 UTC No. 16503186
>>16503030
But what about rapid reuse...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:01:04 UTC No. 16503187
>>16503182
Im gonna go with Themisto, I remember it because it was the name of a mission in Warframe on Jupiter. Assassination of Alad V
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:02:04 UTC No. 16503189
So Isaacman huh. Wow, that was out of left field. That must have been elons condition, trump stfu and left him pick his nasa head of choice. A fantastic pick too. It's categorically OVER for old space.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:03:30 UTC No. 16503193
>>16503114
>this was the actual plan
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:03:33 UTC No. 16503194
>>16503152
>IFT-2
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:05:10 UTC No. 16503196
>>16503178
jupiter will be the east asia of the solar system
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:06:47 UTC No. 16503197
So... if for some reason Isaacman is too busy with his new role, who's gonna be the commander for the next Polaris missions? Tim Dodd? Nothing surprises me anymore at this point.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:08:06 UTC No. 16503198
>>16503197
>lets put the literal redditor with no flight experience on the mission to save hubble
Great plan
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:08:51 UTC No. 16503200
>>16503198
He can be the ballast.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:09:14 UTC No. 16503201
>>16503194
it's been so long I forget which flight was which, and I'm too tired to look it up
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:10:26 UTC No. 16503203
>Boeing wants out, may get a deal
>merit based contracts will all go to SpaceX
The next couple years of NASA will seem like comically obvious corruption to the unknowledgeable normie
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:10:58 UTC No. 16503204
>>16503198
Reminder that he was unironically chosen to go in dearMoon. He still must be seething about that...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:11:00 UTC No. 16503205
>>16503185
i remember they were talking about spaceplanes in a thread a few months back
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:12:58 UTC No. 16503209
>>16503203
muh subsidies!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:17:58 UTC No. 16503211
>>16503183
Scott is probably laughing with his wife and children, eating a nice home cooked dinner while elon is alone typing on his phone, eating mcdonalds and drinking redbull all night tweeting.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:20:04 UTC No. 16503213
>>16503211
doesn't he sleep in his factories?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:20:20 UTC No. 16503214
>>16503211
Looks like he's in a twitter space rn actually
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:26:49 UTC No. 16503219
>>16503203
even the unknowledgeable normie has seen boeing's planes, and likely also starliner 'stranding astronauts'. the moment you show them the graph of launches to orbit by company they will immediatly understand.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:29:37 UTC No. 16503222
>>16503219
Uhhh.... what the heck is an orbit anyways?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:30:20 UTC No. 16503223
>>16503219
>graph of launches to orbit
This kind of mogging is really unprecedented, an order of magnitude above the rest of the planet combined. Can't think of any examples in other industries.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:49:43 UTC No. 16503233
what if we just give the ISS to the yuros and let them deal with it
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:53:03 UTC No. 16503237
>>16503233
wouldn't be legal. each of the 4 agencies has a certain share of the cost burden. both of maintenance and end of life.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:57:21 UTC No. 16503239
>>16503233
what if instead we deorbit the ISS with you in it
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:58:47 UTC No. 16503242
>>16503223
The launch rate alone is unprecedented, but they're putting a lot of stuff up with each flight, too.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:59:39 UTC No. 16503243
>>16502657
>Who are they stealing from
Tesla, mostly.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:15:55 UTC No. 16503258
>>16502646
I fucking hate this cringelord, let's kill him with hammers
not Jared, he's cool
>>16502722
SN4 explosion though and going frame by frame to try to suss out what the fuck is happening
there was so much detail there
>>16502901
assume we have perfect tracking of all Russian undersea assets and it works just fine, actually
that's not strictly true but it's close to true
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:26:17 UTC No. 16503262
>>16503006
>cost overruns are normal
>wasting tax payer dollars is normal
what an entitled cunt
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:36:18 UTC No. 16503268
>>16503266
Where'd that come from?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:38:03 UTC No. 16503270
>>16503268
https://x.com/longmier/status/18645
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:39:44 UTC No. 16503271
>>16503189
Yeah and it means Trump is really listening to Elon which is quite interesting.
Can you believe that we got Donald Trump back? It actually happened
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:40:15 UTC No. 16503272
>>16503270
Thanks Anon
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:41:01 UTC No. 16503273
>>16503269
Why do they hate Lori, tho? She's awesome
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:41:36 UTC No. 16503274
>>16502621
Even the slogan
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:41:45 UTC No. 16503275
>>16503273
Her cosplay ~20 years ago was too based
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:43:39 UTC No. 16503276
>>16503273
She's basically the reason why Starship won the HLS bid instead of going with Blue Origin. The Old Space guys started getting really bent out of shape towards all things SpaceX and Musk at that point and it's only gotten worse over time.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:45:55 UTC No. 16503277
>>16502237
If congress doesn't cancel it Trump will primary all of them
Yes, even the democrats.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:47:17 UTC No. 16503278
>>16503183
the space station is joever
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:59:34 UTC No. 16503279
>>16503269
>the fascists marching into NASA HQ
Don't tease me like that ESGfaggot...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:01:35 UTC No. 16503281
>>16503126
have any of them done spacewalks?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:02:36 UTC No. 16503283
>>16503278
>elons first reply to this faggot for years is to just immediately to shit on him right after he got the fags arch nemesis elected personally
Thank you controller overlords this is a great spectacle.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:05:46 UTC No. 16503287
I voted trump and it already paid off
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:11:45 UTC No. 16503291
>>16503174
it was as much of a spacewalk as Alexei's or Ed's, in my opinion
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:12:23 UTC No. 16503292
>>16502547
BO engages in lawfare
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:12:45 UTC No. 16503293
>>16503269
Jared is a fascist?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:14:05 UTC No. 16503294
>>16503021
SLS wouldn't make sense with that cost even if SpaceX didn't exist.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:15:42 UTC No. 16503295
>>16503287
just wait until he gets in the white house
its gonna be some good shit
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:22:42 UTC No. 16503298
>>16503274
And Reagan stole that from Margaret Thatcher.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:29:12 UTC No. 16503301
Ticket to mars will cost one bitcoin. You should really have two though.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:29:52 UTC No. 16503302
>>16503293
another one of those jewish nazis
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:35:48 UTC No. 16503305
>>16503302
many such cases
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:09:23 UTC No. 16503324
>>16502839
Maybe but not in the way you think.
The US has precious few things it can point to that nobody else has (because it sold them all). Reusable rockets are basically one of the last traces of american exceptionalism left. So he doesn't like the rocket per se, just what it represents as a national icon. And that's fine, as long as that means more space dollars.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:19:32 UTC No. 16503332
>>16503102
ok she's alright
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:20:19 UTC No. 16503333
>>16503294
if SpaceX didn't exist then they would have to do the SLS, or pay 250 million an Atlas V launch in some sorta old space shitfest
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:22:52 UTC No. 16503335
>>16503143
Fuck that, already enough useless govt bodies in libtarded CO
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:23:49 UTC No. 16503337
>>16503333
They could have scrapped the SLS and tried again to find a cheaper way to do it, or work on a new one at the same time after wasting the money.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:25:51 UTC No. 16503339
>>16503186
ice will melt silly
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:29:56 UTC No. 16503342
>>16503269
Lori literally hasnt changed her policy opinions at all.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:32:26 UTC No. 16503344
>>16503337
>Cheaper way to do it
Kerolox first stage, lose the SRBs or make them liquid, find out how Boeing managed to convince NASA the entire Centaur stage needed a redesign despite having ACES right there
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:35:49 UTC No. 16503346
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18645
Dyc ready to go, 10mb per beam
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:42:35 UTC No. 16503347
business idea: NSSL style phases and lanes but for artemis services
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 07:49:11 UTC No. 16503348
>>16503344
Tell Aerojew Shekeldyne that for 165M a pop the damn engines had better be capable of airlighting and several restarts and use the whole core as a second stage on top of some orsc/ffsc kerolox booster. Then fuse ICPS directly into the service module and add cryocoolers for long endurance ZBO.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 08:07:55 UTC No. 16503354
https://x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/statu
Bezos wants to work with musk on DOGE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 08:22:36 UTC No. 16503365
Okay but whens the next Starship launch?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 08:25:29 UTC No. 16503367
>>16503365
january 11
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 08:31:37 UTC No. 16503371
>>16503354
As long as deregulation is top of mind I dont care who does it. Just get the fuck out of the way so companies can prosper.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 08:36:26 UTC No. 16503375
>>16503354
https://youtu.be/s71nJQqzYRQ?t=13m5
here's the timestamp for bezos discussing the DOGE and elon. seems positive
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 08:53:40 UTC No. 16503381
>>16503353
>Jared Isaacman will be an outstanding NASA Administrator and leader of the NASA family. Jared’s vision for pushing boundaries, paired with his proven track record of success in private industry, positions him as an ideal candidate to lead NASA into a bold new era of exploration and discovery. I urge the Senate to swiftly confirm him.
Big approval from Big Jim
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 09:28:19 UTC No. 16503391
>>16502626
No, Jarvis, the payload engineer
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 09:37:49 UTC No. 16503395
>>16503283
His end of life plan is to boost it to higher orbit so it can be a floating relic instead of deorbiting. Or something.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 09:38:55 UTC No. 16503396
>>16503395
boost it to a literal graveyard orbit
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 10:23:34 UTC No. 16503417
>>16503396
yes anon that's why they are called graveyard orbits
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 10:52:19 UTC No. 16503431
>>16503102
queen
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 10:54:24 UTC No. 16503432
>>16503138
Alabama river hunter-gatherers will be relocated to Starbase.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:04:18 UTC No. 16503440
>>16502254
Or claim he was never against Starship, he just had "some concerns", and then say he wants to look forward instead of being stuck in the past. People like that rarely will fully admit they were wrong.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:07:11 UTC No. 16503441
>>16502379
>I can't believe how much of a consensus that is.
That consensus is enforced by down votes and bans.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:15:14 UTC No. 16503445
>>16503138
A woman I dated in college works in space command. We're both from Alabama so if her job gets moved from Colorado to Alabama, I'm going to laugh my ass off as she never wants to go back there ever again. This was her dream job that she worked a long time to get so I'm not sure if she'd find something else in the Springs or suck it up and move back to Bama.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:19:16 UTC No. 16503447
>>16503144
Space Command has some civilian jobs and Alabama would be happy to have more military personnel move to the state. Some of the SLS folks would be able to find other aerospace jobs but many would simply retire. There's not much of a downside if Space Command to Alabama comes bundled with SLS cancellation, though obviously the state would prefer to keep SLS going and get Space Command.
I assume it is slated to go to Huntsville and not Montgomery. Huge quality of life difference between the two.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:36:08 UTC No. 16503454
>>16503039
>The capsule failed so the rocket failed too!
Retard
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:47:19 UTC No. 16503461
>just boost the largest and most fragile thing in orbit to GEO+300
I bet there's a hilarious overlap of people advocating this and starlink Kessler complainers
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:47:27 UTC No. 16503462
>>16502722
The astra powerslide was it for me because thats the one time I got people to watch it with me and as soon as it happened everyone turned to me and asked if that was supposed to happen.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 12:25:06 UTC No. 16503489
>United States Attempting to Detect Other Countries Tinkering With the Climate
secretly geoengineering the Earth
>Experiments to alter the climate are starting to take place all over the world ... the United States is now building a system to detect when and where it's happening.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the Department of Energy are aiming to start tracking "solar geoengineering" endeavors. ... the general idea is often to use some form of chemical aerosol, injected high up into the planet's stratosphere, to reflect sunlight back away from the Earth and reduce the effects — though not the underlying cause — of climate change.
>though not the underlying cause
>implying
... NOAA is working to strengthen its surveillance and recognition of these projects as institutions and individual groups are increasingly undertaking pilot tests of geoengineering concepts in quests to "hack" the climate.
As a result, the agency's Chemical Sciences Laboratory has begun deploying large balloon "sentries" with equipment to detect aerosol levels in the clouds. ... these balloons report back the locations and amounts of any unusual aerosol concentrations in the stratosphere so the NOAA can begin to track where geoengineering is taking place.
Along with trying to figure out what other countries are doing, the NOAA's forthcoming aerosol tracking program could also help its scientists learn more about the longer-term effects of these projects.
New Mexico's Sandia National Laboratories — which works with the DOE — developed an algorithm decades ago that can retroactively tell where a burst of aerosols was released and how big it was.
"The effect will possibly last months, and even maybe a couple of years, depending on how much aerosols they’re injecting,"
>muh balloons
We need large rigid bodied stratospheric airships with this monitoring equipment so that we can move them around instead of just floating balloons.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 12:31:28 UTC No. 16503495
>>16503472
Ehhh. Long march rockets are interesting but I wish they had distinct liveries. Every single LM looks the same. From LM11 that’s basically just a truck missile to LM9 which will be gigantic—they all look the same and don’t have any soul or character
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 12:42:27 UTC No. 16503505
>>16503476
What is it about rocket autists and bimbos
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 12:45:44 UTC No. 16503509
>>16503489
What we need is to dump several hundred tons of sulfur dioxide into the upper atmosphere so anti human psychos need to find a more transparent reason to try to convince us to turn off our industry
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:08:26 UTC No. 16503526
>>16503495
That's why I love them, they're basically lego!
CZ-6A? A stretched CZ-5 booster with ICBM-derived srbs from AASPT!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:21:09 UTC No. 16503530
>>16502379
>They overwhelmingly think he's a bad guy because a billionaire.
Fortunately redditors aren't quite so stupid as to support someone saying this out loud.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:46:06 UTC No. 16503540
>>16502379
>inherently communist?
yes. because a large portion of the population are inherently communist
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:54:06 UTC No. 16503542
>>16503476
holy shit. She's phoning it in so hard. If she wasnt too dumb to use ai i would say it sounds like a monotone AI synthesis of her voice.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:56:06 UTC No. 16503544
>>16503530
>>16503540
>wealth from innovation is the same as wealth from exploitation
After the health insurance guy got murdered I've seen people calling for Elon to be next. I'd like to give them credit and say they've read Marx or something, (hardly credit as his ideas were already outdated a century ago) but I think they're just stupid and resentful. I don't like where this is going.
O God, please get me to Mars as fast as possible
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:04:01 UTC No. 16503545
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:06:09 UTC No. 16503547
>>16503530
>>16503540
>>16503544
>>16502379
Cattle oppinions are so depressing. They don't even know the names of actual parasitic billionaires, but target those diamonds in the rough who actually use their capital for good, because tv said they bad.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:11:52 UTC No. 16503548
^
richfags feeling nervous
bet you're the
>Net worth is a direct measure of one's ability to create value.
>the market is an IQ test, and you failed
poster
lmao
oh yeah dude the same people who offshored most of your industry to save a few pennies on the dollar by using slave labor and suicide nets to make lower quality products, they're the smart ones and produce value for your society
oh no, did we accidently capture your regulatory agencies through lobbying
surely there will be no real consequences for aerospace related interests that are definitely on topic, for example the FAA and FCC starlink contract debacle
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:13:34 UTC No. 16503550
>>16503548
Speak plainly please.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:16:04 UTC No. 16503552
>>16502324
The actual benefit of meaningful diversity is that you have multiple competitive options. Doing something retarded in the name of diversity does not accomplish that. You are misguided or arguing in bad faith, likely the latter.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:17:29 UTC No. 16503554
>>16503550
there are untold trillions of dollars worth of precious metals just chilling in the asteroid belt and utilitarian mining operations to that end would destabilize the puppet show that passes for a global economy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:17:54 UTC No. 16503555
communists go on the no mars list
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:23:48 UTC No. 16503560
>>16502398
Thank you for your service
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:24:45 UTC No. 16503561
>no you don't understand
>nobody is allowed to stop me from offshoring your critical industrial capabilities for a marginal increase in profits
>what's a national security, oh wait reinstate the draft RIGHT NOW
>who needs the technology and industry to support a functioning space program that's anything more than a glorified boondoggle anyways
How many Chinese nationals are you going to sell tickets to Mars?
Health insurance company executives and their ilk fleeing the planet too I suppose.
Surely they won't be useless eaters and have the skills necessary to help support colony ops.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:26:20 UTC No. 16503562
>>16503555
it's not even communists, most are social democrats or democratic socialists, truly the worst and most annoying group of the left. at least unironic communists wanted to go to space.
>>16503558
I don't even get what his point is. Should we just continue giving literal subsidies to companies like boing and locksneed, who have been stealing hundreds of billions of taxpayers' money for the last 50 years? If he's got a problem with billionaires, then he won't like Blue Origin or RocketLab, either.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:28:08 UTC No. 16503563
>>16503562
Just as a reminder, Peter Beck became a billionaire I believe like last month. I guess he's evil now, the engineers did it, steals the credit, etc etc.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:28:52 UTC No. 16503564
>>16502449
He's not a politician
He wants to make meaningful progress in manned spaceflight
He's already convinced that SpaceX is the best means to achieve those goals
What more could you ask for? Reanimated Wernher?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:32:38 UTC No. 16503565
>>16503564
I'd also take a reanimated korolev.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:33:07 UTC No. 16503566
>>16503547
It's single degree logic. Billionaire I see: bad. Billionaire I don't see: doesn't exist.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:34:25 UTC No. 16503567
>>16502475
No disruptions to the economy or American society in general significant enough to interfere meaningfully with Elon's Mars colonization project.
He's claiming he can succeed if he's not stopped by societal collapse.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:36:36 UTC No. 16503570
>>16503554
>asteroid mining tard
Not even starship enables this. It isn't happening. We're also using debt based fiat so flooding the market with metals wouldn't change anything. If there's any commodity that maybe would effect this it's oil, but this was viewed as a weakness a couple years ago when China ramped up nuclear and solar so even that might not be a thing anymore. Also
>expanding through the heavens out of resentment
Shameful
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:37:09 UTC No. 16503571
>>16503564
Von Braun's not dead, hes frozen. and one day they're gonna thaw out the Braun and hes going to be in a pretty mean mood when he says the current state of human space exploration. I would not want to be an earther when that happens.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:38:23 UTC No. 16503574
>>16503561
Are you going to have a fit all day again? Making yourself mad, replying to no one? You know how pathetic everyone here thinks you are?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:39:30 UTC No. 16503576
>>16503571
He and the reanimated head of Walt Disney can start the next pogrom
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:40:49 UTC No. 16503580
>>16502547
>I genuinely want every rocket to be successful
>I genuinely want massive waste at taxpayer expense
Kill yourself, and choose a really gruesome way to do it
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:51:55 UTC No. 16503585
>>16503243
Tesla grows from Chinese BEV industry growth. They're selling record numbers and eating all the lunches of all the legacy car companies combined over there. Tesla is the ONLY foreign company left in China thats making cars at mass produced level. And Musk is HUGE in China. ~45% of Tesla market is China. Other 45% being US. And the rest spread out througout the world.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:53:21 UTC No. 16503587
>>16503353
Greg was someone I welcomed, but Isaacman is someone that I definitely didnt see coming but absolutely will be critical for NASA moving forward.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:54:31 UTC No. 16503589
>>16503585
>They're selling record numbers and eating all the lunches of all the legacy car companies combined over there
You're over selling it a bit. yes all the old car companies are being buried but tesla isn't the main beneficiary, it's BYD
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 14:57:20 UTC No. 16503590
>>16503544
>>16503547
kind of unnerving how twisted many peoples outlook is and how easily they can be led to demand the death of the latest object of the 2 minutes hate. But its been that way for a long time so i expect no change.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:00:02 UTC No. 16503593
>>16503570
>flooding the market with metals wouldn't change anything
top jej
fiat is funnymoney for playing shell games with real estate, it's literally 1s and 0s that are arbitrarily brought into existence by the bank every time someone takes out a loan, it's literally makebelieve nonsense
they aren't loaning you money that already exists, they're loaning you money they handwaved into existence when you agreed to sign on the dotted line
rare earth minearals and the like have actual geostrategic significance, and access to significant deposits in space would be a VERY real game changer for the global economy
>China Announces a Ban on Rare Minerals to the U.S.
>Dec 4 2024
>banned the export of rare but critical earth minerals used in the manufacture of important semiconductors to the United States
nobody is going to space to find oil, that's silly
it would be easier to produce petroleum products on earth using algae
>Not even starship enables this.
were you under the impression starship is as advanced as spaceflight can get
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:01:34 UTC No. 16503595
>>16503589
Wrong. Tesla is one of the main beneficiary of it. So is the BYD. But the Chinese car industry has low single digit profit margins so they go out of business every now and then. The media narrative you eat up with "Tesla collapse 2 weeks" is your own brain capacity issue. If you're still eating those propaganda, I dont know what to tell you.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:03:53 UTC No. 16503597
>>16503595
>The media narrative you eat up with "Tesla collapse 2 weeks" is your own brain capacity issue.
I never argued this. Please stop making up strawmen.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:08:24 UTC No. 16503599
Reminder, fuel/oxidizers are being prepped over the last few day or so. They're going for another test fire soon.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:12:00 UTC No. 16503601
>>16503454
Yes actually, since you will never see a cargo SLS fly. It's a package deal chuddy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:18:33 UTC No. 16503603
>>16503563
Errm Peter WHO?? Is he associated with Elon at all? I need to know whether to hate him and fling shit or not
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:25:18 UTC No. 16503607
>>16502578
Surely nothing has changed in American politics or society in the last 40 years.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:25:20 UTC No. 16503608
>>16503598
Non-starlink falcon launch in under an hour too
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1MYxNMdq
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:26:14 UTC No. 16503609
>>16503608
The Euro humiliation ritual continues
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:32:25 UTC No. 16503610
>>16503593
Most coherent /sci/ schizo
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:41:34 UTC No. 16503618
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:42:09 UTC No. 16503619
>>16503610
/sfg/ is healing
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:58:11 UTC No. 16503625
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:58:18 UTC No. 16503626
>>16503562
>social democrats or democratic socialists
just call them what they are, nazis
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:01:37 UTC No. 16503632
Is satellite radio still relevant? This question is being asked honestly, I’m not trying to be cheeky or trying to slightl seriusxm.
Do enough people love satellite radio to warrant it being a profitable thing? Why not just use “radio” over the internet, what’s the point? To listen to music in the car with no internet or radio connection I suppose?
Sounds super duper niche and sounds like something Starlink sort of captures the market of.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:04:00 UTC No. 16503634
Perijeet
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:04:32 UTC No. 16503635
>>16503625
me when I sperg out to normies about how we could've been on mars by 1981, had not been for greedy politicians and defense contractors
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:06:13 UTC No. 16503636
>>16503632
My parents use satellite radio in their car all the time but nobody I know in their 20s or 30s uses it, so take that anecdote as you will.
Most new cars seem to offer it as an option, but who knows if people are buying it or if it’s just an attempt to prop up relevance.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:07:41 UTC No. 16503637
>>16503635
>greedy defense contractors
Companies are supposed to be greedy, that's how they work
>greedy politicians
I still don't understand how enriching yourself to the detriment of the state isn't punishable by execution
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:08:54 UTC No. 16503638
>>16503636
This is my experience as well. Younger boomers to older millennials use it. Internet has gotten so widespread now that most people can just use cellular anywhere within and, now, even between cities. Stream music, stream podcasts, etc. Spotify and apple music negate satellite radio it seems.
Which sucks though because podcasts are alright, but we seem to be losing classical live radio formats like news, comedy, sports talk, live music with a DJ. Sad
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:10:37 UTC No. 16503641
Liftoff
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:10:51 UTC No. 16503642
>>16503638
I still download everything and load it on to my phones local storage. Fuck streaming.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:11:15 UTC No. 16503643
This is boring. Rockets were more interesting back when there was a chance that they may explode.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:12:34 UTC No. 16503645
>>16503642
Same but only because my last phone stopped charging and I switched back to a 10+ year old one I had laying in my junk drawer, since all I use it for is playing MP3s anyway.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:12:56 UTC No. 16503646
>>16503643
The Vega-C launch might be interesting
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:13:20 UTC No. 16503647
>>16503638
>>16503642
love podcasts, but for music I admit that I still download the mp3 audio files from youtube, and then transfer them to my phone lmao. never used spotify, the fuck is that, I shouldn't need internet connection to listen to music.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:14:39 UTC No. 16503648
This is soo booooring
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:15:08 UTC No. 16503650
>>16503637
>Companies are supposed to be greedy, that's how they work
labor is how they work, capital is what allows for that labor to be organized in the first place
greed is how companies die, it's how embezzlement saps away at their foundations and eats into the quality of their product
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:16:54 UTC No. 16503652
>>16503649
it’s wrapped in a nice warm blankie.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:19:20 UTC No. 16503655
damn you could see those resistojets position the booster left and right to land, really cool
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:21:01 UTC No. 16503658
>>16503656
b-but he smoked pot...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:21:06 UTC No. 16503659
>>16503653
1 hour and 40 minutes from now
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:22:26 UTC No. 16503663
>>16503653
Hopefully they take questions from the audience, I want to see pissed off Nelson again
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:22:40 UTC No. 16503664
>>16503653
>inb4 Artemis II NET Q4 2026
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:24:54 UTC No. 16503666
>>16503664
quite optimistic, I see
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:26:45 UTC No. 16503668
>>16503664
>we lied about moving Artemis 2 right because we didn’t want biden getting credit
>new launch date Jan 21
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:30:29 UTC No. 16503672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAP
>we will leave the decision on the next steps for Artemis II and Orion to the next administrator, good luck!
post yfw
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:40:11 UTC No. 16503677
best music right now
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:40:23 UTC No. 16503678
>>16503653
CANCEL ARTEMIS
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:41:32 UTC No. 16503679
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:43:26 UTC No. 16503682
>>16503681
this but actually the complete opposite
he can't stop winning
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:44:09 UTC No. 16503684
boaters mentioned
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:45:56 UTC No. 16503686
fuck that was cool
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:47:43 UTC No. 16503688
>>16503681
but they told me the engineers did it, not him. This means that the engineers are the ones who suck?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:51:34 UTC No. 16503691
>>16503642
i do that or explore what i can get on the radio. in the states you can often get the same talk shows etc all over the place which is nice. nothing like that up here apart from the fucking CBC commie stations
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:55:16 UTC No. 16503693
>>16503638
AM/FM broadcast radio has been slowly dying since the 80s, sadly. Once 3.5mm input or bluetooth became standard in most cars it was just a matter of time before this happened.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:03:50 UTC No. 16503701
>>16503681
European/communist mindset
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:07:10 UTC No. 16503707
>>16503681
Name 1 (uno) thing musk has revealed that fucking sucks.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:09:53 UTC No. 16503709
>>16503707
https://shop.spacex.com/collections
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:10:54 UTC No. 16503710
https://x.com/pronounced_kyle/statu
rotating detonation engine
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:11:15 UTC No. 16503711
>>16503707
Does it have to be space related?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:11:49 UTC No. 16503712
>>16503681
They really try to push this cope while he's still the most powerful private citizen on earth huh
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:12:32 UTC No. 16503713
>>16503711
but the CT is great
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:15:12 UTC No. 16503716
>>16503711
>innovative, performant vehicle with a striking appearance
>sucks
you may have eds
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:16:35 UTC No. 16503717
>>16503711
that was a funny blooper but it wasn't the car's fault, some retard forgot to close windows properly
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:16:59 UTC No. 16503719
>>16503717
>>16503716
>>16503713
EDS (Elon Dick Sucking)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:17:11 UTC No. 16503720
Do we really even need NASA anymore? Trump should just shut it down.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:18:34 UTC No. 16503724
>>16503720
We need NASA to build the probes that fall outside of NOAAs jurisdiction.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:18:50 UTC No. 16503725
God I hate all the Elon dick sucking in here, like, he isnt gonna fuck you.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:21:04 UTC No. 16503726
>>16503593
a bank cannot create money idiot
they have a finite amount of money on their books that how a bank run happens
It's only the central banks that can print more money and loan it to other banks
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:21:38 UTC No. 16503728
>>16503719
>My ego requires my subjective opinion to be correct
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:22:05 UTC No. 16503729
>>16503724
deep space probes have exactly ZERO return on investment
Same as all astronomy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:22:37 UTC No. 16503731
>>16503720
yeah, clearly
they retain broadly applicable expertise and information pertaining to different fields all related and critical to space exploration that are not replacable
not everything is mere rocket science
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:23:02 UTC No. 16503732
>>16503719
It's not Elon's fault that you don't know how force distribution works
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:24:59 UTC No. 16503734
>>16503725
You don’t know that
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:28:51 UTC No. 16503736
>>16503711
Honestly what are the chances his public company would need to solve difficult problems working with stainless steel at the exact same time his private company was building a steel rocket. Elon is so lucky
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:31:34 UTC No. 16503738
>>16503726
>a bank cannot create money idiot
someone doesn't know how loans work in the US
protip, they aren't loaning you money that already exists
instead, as soon as you agree to their terms those funds are created out of thin air because the fiat currency everyone uses is backed by the debt you just incurred personally
that interest you're paying back, the bank didn't actually take on any risk because the funds they lent you didn't even exist before
that's how they're making money, you pay them for the service with the interest
their balance sheets exist so long as the outstanding balance of your debt remains unpaid
as soon the debt is paid off in full, the 1s and 0s in their computer are nulled
the debt cycle is what keeps their shell game functioning
>Banks, through the process of extending loans to creditworthy customers, create deposits. Commercial banks are licenced by government to be deposit institutions. This means they have certain priveleges such as holding reserve accounts with the central bank and being able to create bank deposits denominated in the state unit of account (eg. USD, GBP, etc).
>When I seek a loan from a bank (often to fund investment or asset purchases) I exchange my IOU (my liability) (eg. mortgage agreement with my signature) for a deposit asset. The bank holds my IOU liability as its asset and I hold the bank's deposit liability as my asset. New broad money is created in the process but the net change in financial equity across both parties is zero. The bank's balance sheet simply expands, as does mine. We both have new assets and new matching liabilities.
>When the principal of my loan is repaid, I am returning the bank's own liability (newly created deposits) back to them in exchange for my own IOU. The contract and debt is extinguished/redeemed and neither of us have residual financial claims on each other vis a vis the loan agreement. The bank cannot go on to spend its own IOUs.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:31:46 UTC No. 16503739
>>16503726
Fractional reserve lending with 0% reserve requirements. A normal bank can and is printing money.
>>16503729
That's why a government organization does it dumbass, it wouldn't happen otherwise
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:46:09 UTC No. 16503744
>>16503719
you are going on the no mars list
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:48:32 UTC No. 16503748
>>16503720
Yes. X-planes, testing commercial rocket equipment, space telescopes, deep space probes, basic research, managing a DSN, etc. are all valuable things NASA provides.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:51:22 UTC No. 16503751
>>16503748
thats how you get an institution with 20 billion dollars a year budget that doesn't actually do anything
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:54:00 UTC No. 16503754
>>16503751
No. You get such an institution by allowing DEI shit.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:55:40 UTC No. 16503757
>>16503748
We don't need any of those things.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:57:05 UTC No. 16503758
>>16503757
retarded nigger
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:57:15 UTC No. 16503759
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:58:12 UTC No. 16503760
>>16503759
OC? in my /sfg/??
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:58:20 UTC No. 16503761
>>16503751
No, drip feeding sls and maintaining iss is how you blow 20 billy a year on nothing.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:00:41 UTC No. 16503764
>>16503763
>Leadership News Conference
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:00:47 UTC No. 16503766
Someone already has a hot-mic
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:01:33 UTC No. 16503768
Participants:
-NASA Administrator Bill Nelson
-NASA Deputy Administrator Pam Melroy
-NASA Associate Administrator Jim Free
-Catherine Koerner, associate administrator, Exploration Systems Development Mission Directorate, NASA Headquarters
-Amit Kshatriya, deputy associate administrator, Moon to Mars Program Office, Exploration Systems Development Mission Directorate
-Reid Wiseman, NASA astronaut and Artemis II commander
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:01:43 UTC No. 16503769
>>16503763
Hot mic watch out
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:01:56 UTC No. 16503770
did someone say holy shit just now?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:03:32 UTC No. 16503773
>livestream already down
This is going to be a good one
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:03:46 UTC No. 16503774
>>16503763
Wtf is wrong with the stream
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:04:06 UTC No. 16503775
alright its back
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:04:11 UTC No. 16503776
>>16503768
Reid Wiseman, nice
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:05:03 UTC No. 16503778
FGO loading screen ahh music
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:05:19 UTC No. 16503780
grab your popcorn fellas, this is going to be a shitshow
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:05:56 UTC No. 16503781
Cancel SLS
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:06:24 UTC No. 16503783
>>16503760
nature is healing
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:06:57 UTC No. 16503784
lol what if boeing wants to do a complete pull-out of Artemis
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:07:34 UTC No. 16503785
>NASA has decided to cancel SLS and purchase Starship
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:08:25 UTC No. 16503788
IT
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:09:25 UTC No. 16503790
IS
LIVE
RN
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:09:41 UTC No. 16503791
Losing her voice
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:09:58 UTC No. 16503792
WELL MAYBE SHE SHOULD LOOK FOR IT
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:10:05 UTC No. 16503793
HE SAID THE THING
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:10:16 UTC No. 16503795
>space is hard
oh no
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:10:19 UTC No. 16503796
Space
Is
Hard
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:10:21 UTC No. 16503797
SPACE IS
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:10:34 UTC No. 16503798
>space is hard
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:10:44 UTC No. 16503799
Lmfao
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:11:44 UTC No. 16503801
SLS and Orion are canned, calling it now
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:12:45 UTC No. 16503804
MODIFIED ENTRY TRAJECTORY
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:12:45 UTC No. 16503805
modified trajectory
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:12:48 UTC No. 16503806
>>16503759
scratch "Space is Hard"
"heat shield safe"
"test"
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:12:53 UTC No. 16503807
RIP Artemis II crew
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:13:00 UTC No. 16503809
"Uh just have it come in more shallow, that'll do it"
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:13:10 UTC No. 16503810
Rip Artemis II crew
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:13:16 UTC No. 16503811
Honestly surprised they're not changing anything.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:13:23 UTC No. 16503812
Nothingburger then. Why have a press conference then? I wanted a funny cancellation to spite 47
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:13:46 UTC No. 16503813
>>16503809
space is literally so easy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:14:48 UTC No. 16503816
You can laugh all you want, but spacex also will need to deal with heat shield disintegrating
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:15:11 UTC No. 16503817
>have "problem"
>don't care
>have no problem
space is so easy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:15:31 UTC No. 16503818
>>16503816
EDS. The heat shield is perfect.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:15:41 UTC No. 16503819
space is... demanding
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:15:44 UTC No. 16503820
>>16503759
CONTRACTS TO DEVELOP HUMAN LANDER SYSTEMS
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:15:51 UTC No. 16503821
>going to the moon is "deep space"
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:15:51 UTC No. 16503822
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:16:02 UTC No. 16503823
>>16503816
I will laugh becuase Orion has had 20 years to address this, with an unlimited piggy bank.
SX has a problem with a giant rocket they self-funded like 4 years ago, and they’ll solve it quickly
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:16:07 UTC No. 16503824
China enjoy winning this race
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:16:27 UTC No. 16503825
SPACEX MENTIONED
BOEING MENTIONED
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:17:03 UTC No. 16503828
LOCKHEED ON ORION
>ffs
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:17:07 UTC No. 16503829
nasa is spending more than a billion dollars on space suits from Axiom
what the devil
You don't even need space suits at all, you are in a pressurized environment...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:17:36 UTC No. 16503830
Lock the doors
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:18:04 UTC No. 16503831
>Launch in April 2026
wtf
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:18:07 UTC No. 16503832
>Orion is fucked so let me shit on china real quick
Nice playbook lol
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:18:09 UTC No. 16503833
the moon is claimed by our diverse progressive America, stay away chinaman
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:18:14 UTC No. 16503835
DO NOT CEDE PORTIONS OF THE LUNAR SOUTH POLE TO THE CHINESE
>wow
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:18:34 UTC No. 16503837
what's the deal with the reverb
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:18:56 UTC No. 16503838
>>16503759
so far
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:19:04 UTC No. 16503840
I've seen this episode of For All Mankind before
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:19:15 UTC No. 16503841
NIPPON COLLAB FOR PRESSURIZED ROVER
ITS
HAPPENING
STACKING IN PROGRESS
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:20:06 UTC No. 16503842
>>16503839
>>16503840
Fuck me was season four shit though
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:20:12 UTC No. 16503843
>>16503839
>"In order to prevent China from gaining portions of the lunar south pole, we will be launching a preemptive war against China using all assets in the United States arsenal."
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:21:29 UTC No. 16503844
Apollo heat shield lol
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:21:30 UTC No. 16503845
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:21:57 UTC No. 16503846
>>16503844
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:22:31 UTC No. 16503847
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:22:45 UTC No. 16503849
skip entry is based
like a stone off the surface of still water, a vessel may likewise skip off the surface of the atmosphere
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:22:49 UTC No. 16503850
Oh God the heat shield TRAPS heat now?
That's the OPPOSITE of what it is supposed to do
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:22:53 UTC No. 16503851
I've been speaking with an established patch vendor who has expressed interest in making patches for /sfg/. He's willing to do the 4ASS patch (I sent him this image, but told him that the C needs to not be capitalized), and would be willing to do others.
What would you like to see for /sfg/ patches?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:22:58 UTC No. 16503852
This is like a funeral service
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:23:47 UTC No. 16503853
>>16503852
They're all losing their jobs next month
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:23:58 UTC No. 16503854
>>16503850
muh blocks, muh no test flight after blocks
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:24:46 UTC No. 16503855
>>16503823
>they’ll solve it quickly
I wouldn't be so optimistic considering spacex uses shittle tiles
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:24:53 UTC No. 16503856
imagine if they had cheap reusable rockets and could just you know, run a couple tests instead of spending a billion dollars in ground based guesswork
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:25:32 UTC No. 16503857
>>16503847
One more until BINGO
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:25:44 UTC No. 16503858
Lunar Command Center confirmed
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:25:47 UTC No. 16503859
Can we have Congress stop playing KSP and just can this? Let each state go into private space
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:26:34 UTC No. 16503861
SAFETY WE HAVE TO BE SAFE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:27:05 UTC No. 16503862
>>16503861
OSHA is an all knowing being
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:28:34 UTC No. 16503866
CO ARTEMIS II
WELL FLANKED
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:29:47 UTC No. 16503869
https://x.com/NASA/status/186473307
>155K viewers
>416K total views
The reach for broadcasting on X is so huge
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:30:48 UTC No. 16503872
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:31:12 UTC No. 16503875
AHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:31:19 UTC No. 16503876
Flight 6 mentioned
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:31:34 UTC No. 16503877
>I've seen it in Boca Chica
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:31:44 UTC No. 16503878
>>16503850
You are a fucking retarded nigger.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:31:47 UTC No. 16503879
>>16503850
>This is the one thing we didn't want to happen
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:32:15 UTC No. 16503880
UM
>UM
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:32:20 UTC No. 16503881
Starship is REAL
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:32:39 UTC No. 16503882
I hope the audience questions are vicious
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:32:43 UTC No. 16503883
>>16503878
No u
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:32:43 UTC No. 16503884
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP THE ECHOOOOO
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:32:56 UTC No. 16503885
They have spaceguy5 running the A/V room today
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:33:05 UTC No. 16503886
>>16503720
important to convince congress to deregulate sonic booms
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:33:10 UTC No. 16503887
reverb again
what a bunch of fucking amateurs
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:34:12 UTC No. 16503889
Use some of the funding to get an actual AV team fucking christ
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:34:21 UTC No. 16503890
sound is hard
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:35:05 UTC No. 16503893
>>16503890
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:35:21 UTC No. 16503894
>>16503850
What are you talking about, that exactly what it's meant to do. You can't just reject the heat from tens of minutes of hypersonic plasma, it has to be absorbed. Ever see those videos of NASA handing the glowing red hestshield material block to tourists but it's only kind of warm to the touch?
Fucking tourists
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:36:04 UTC No. 16503897
If we can't communicate between two buildings, how are we ever supposed to get to the Moon?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:36:42 UTC No. 16503898
echo is gone :D
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:37:47 UTC No. 16503900
this is CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:38:08 UTC No. 16503901
Is there any valid reason why, instead of the Lunar Gateway station, we can't just put a ring of Starlink satellites around the moon? It could provide comms to the lunar base, and also comms between any craftand Earth when on the far side.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:38:13 UTC No. 16503902
>>16503899
Ahem, allow me to introduce the new architecture
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:38:57 UTC No. 16503904
https://x.com/DerekdotSpace/status/
>NASA has also released a high resolution photo of the Artemis 1 heatshield, alongside a detailed explanation of the mechanism behind the unexpected char loss during the flight.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:39:44 UTC No. 16503905
>>16503904
Wow it's absolutely fucked
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:39:48 UTC No. 16503906
>>16503904
kino pic
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:40:42 UTC No. 16503909
>>16503902
>You can't just say "Starships and more Starships" for architecture
space is hard
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:40:52 UTC No. 16503910
>>16503894
NASA man says it's bad that the heat shield trapped heat in pockets. NASA man is probably right, I trust him over anon.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:41:02 UTC No. 16503911
>>16503904
It'll buff out
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:41:31 UTC No. 16503912
>>16503904
Newfag here, why does it look like this spot was the centre of the Plasma front? Isn't it supposed to be on the centre?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:41:45 UTC No. 16503914
>>16503904
Just spin it around to spread the heating. Works for me in KSP
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:41:54 UTC No. 16503915
>>16503910
he also said it was well within any margins the vehicle had
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:42:02 UTC No. 16503916
>>16503899
Berger is right a ton of times but this is a stretch. Artemis III I can see. And ArtIV for sur.
But the SLS for ArtII is already ready and I don’t think it’s as easy as just taking Orion + ESM right now and just putting it in a Vulcan or a New Glenn lol
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:42:13 UTC No. 16503917
>Char liberated
SEIG ZEON
Time for the colonies!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:42:51 UTC No. 16503919
>>16503915
Bits are missing.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:43:03 UTC No. 16503920
>>16503916
>I don’t think it’s as easy as just taking Orion + ESM right now and just putting it in a Vulcan or a New Glenn lol
It's that easy in rocketry though
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:43:11 UTC No. 16503921
>>16503904
it's over....
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:43:14 UTC No. 16503922
>>16503904
>Engineers determined as Orion was returning from its uncrewed mission around the Moon, gases generated inside the heat shield’s ablative outer material called Avcoat were not able to vent and dissipate as expected. This allowed pressure to build up and cracking to occur, causing some charred material to break off in several locations.
Gas pressure Anon was right
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:43:17 UTC No. 16503923
So...they couldn't just do a digital press release of this? What a waste of everyones time
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:43:30 UTC No. 16503925
>>16503919
only has to work once
its ablative
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:43:58 UTC No. 16503926
>>16503912
>Isn't it supposed to be on the centre?
No. It's supposed to be slightly off center so it can adjust its trajectory by rolling the capsule.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:44:22 UTC No. 16503927
>>16503912
It's not reentering dead on. Orion and Apollo both had slightly antisemitic centers of mass that lets them generate some lift as they hit the atmosphere and give them a limited amount of maneuverability.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:45:18 UTC No. 16503930
>>16503925
>only has to work once
Only has to fail once too
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:45:24 UTC No. 16503931
>>16503901
That's not what the lunar gateway is for
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:45:25 UTC No. 16503932
>>16503818
probably. im waiting until after a reentry from lunar orbit
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:45:27 UTC No. 16503933
>>16503927
>antisemitic
oyvey
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:45:41 UTC No. 16503934
>>16503927
>anti-semitic
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:46:20 UTC No. 16503936
HE SAID STARSHIP
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:46:34 UTC No. 16503937
>>16503927
freudian slip
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:46:38 UTC No. 16503938
>>16503933
>>16503934
Well Von Braun WAS on the design team for Apollo
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:46:39 UTC No. 16503939
>>16503842
very. one long socialist union drama and NO space stuff. seasons 1 and 2 were great though. 3 was ok.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:46:41 UTC No. 16503940
>>16503930
he already said it was nowhere close to failing
capsules are easy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:47:56 UTC No. 16503941
>germany
it all adds up now...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:48:06 UTC No. 16503944
https://x.com/ThePrimalDino/status/
>it's impossible to add a docking adapter in 18 months.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:48:29 UTC No. 16503945
>>16503851
Hop When? with a rabbit
Offgassing Tape Drive Program
Frogsat 1 (picrel) mission patch
Plasma Magnet Sail Program (an egg beater strapped to a rocket)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:48:42 UTC No. 16503946
>>16503889
>>16503890
how are we gonna get to the moon if we cant communicate between a couple buildings?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:48:48 UTC No. 16503947
>>16503940
>capsules are easy
>10 years after first flight STILL has not flown crew
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:48:56 UTC No. 16503948
Doesn't orion already take years to re enter, can they even do it slower
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:49:17 UTC No. 16503950
IF YOURE ON THE PHONE PRESS STAR ONE TO ENTER QUE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:49:30 UTC No. 16503951
Question time!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:49:43 UTC No. 16503952
>>16503897
ah damn beat me to it lol
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:49:46 UTC No. 16503953
its the EDS journalist, of course he's talking about the next admin
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:50:03 UTC No. 16503954
Ol’ fousty in the background there
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:50:42 UTC No. 16503956
>JARED MENTIONED
JARED MENTIONED
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:51:36 UTC No. 16503958
>5 years is timely
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:51:41 UTC No. 16503960
>the new regime
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:52:04 UTC No. 16503962
EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MEETING THIS MORNING
JARED ISSACMAN SPOKEN TO YESTERDAY
LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING
FUTURE OF NASA
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION WILL ALLOW ARTEMIS II TO BE LAUNCHED TIMELY
FLIP SIDE IS TESTING NEGATIVE MEANS
"NEW REGIME"
THAT IS A DIRECT QUOTE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:52:16 UTC No. 16503963
>new regime
kek nazi NASA is back
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:53:02 UTC No. 16503964
>>16503912
https://youtu.be/HgTNzDCc0gk
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:53:34 UTC No. 16503966
"ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE MATERIALS"
GET FUCKED YOU RETARDS
MAKE SOME EXCEPTIONS
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:53:49 UTC No. 16503968
You should only be given a press pass if you have autism like this guy. I love technical questions
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:54:17 UTC No. 16503969
BLACK GEOMETRY
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:54:35 UTC No. 16503970
>asian: ask a question
>indian: i don't understand your accent
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:54:46 UTC No. 16503971
>>16503969
that's racist!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:55:16 UTC No. 16503972
this heat shield shit is just a joke
>NASA reports on non-issue that needs some work
>people autistically focus on it for years and years
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:55:34 UTC No. 16503973
>>16503917
leave my boy Casval alone
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:56:51 UTC No. 16503975
the timeline
two boosters
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:56:52 UTC No. 16503976
>>16503972
Yeah I made the same post, they're over-focused on analysis and root cause and not on getting shit done
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:56:57 UTC No. 16503977
>the life has a certain defined life
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:58:24 UTC No. 16503981
unanimous unanimous unanimous
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:58:47 UTC No. 16503982
UNANIMOUS DECISION BY EXECUTIVE COUNCIL IS UNANIMOUS
BINDING
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:01:01 UTC No. 16503983
Berger getting all salty on SLS #1 fanboy lmao
>the SLS rocket is going to get canceled and commercial space is going to happen. most likely Orion will get launched into LEO by NG and then dock with an upper stage to get boosted to lunar orbit.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:02:31 UTC No. 16503985
If there's an executive council, are there legistlative and judicial councils too?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:03:08 UTC No. 16503986
>>16503983
“an” upper stage, Berger says vaguely
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:03:08 UTC No. 16503987
>>16503977
yeah the lich is never the most elequent man in the room, but he knows how to talk to congress critters and keep the pork flowing, for good or for ill, which... worked
being in stasis for four years is better than being cancelled
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:03:47 UTC No. 16503988
>>16503985
imagine the NASA fillibusters
>pulls out NTRS and reads random PDF's from 2000's
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:04:09 UTC No. 16503989
>>16503985
>legislative council
congress and the various congressional committees
I think there's one specifically for space
>judicial council
SCOTUS and their less courts
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:04:11 UTC No. 16503990
>>16503986
Probably another Starship lmfao.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:04:14 UTC No. 16503991
>>16503983
Orion deserves to be cancelled way more than SLS
It has absolutely no purpose in existing
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:05:10 UTC No. 16503992
>>16503988
>starts explaining Buzz Aldrin's PHD thesis
NOOO I DON'T WANT TO LEARN HOW TO NAVIGATE A SPACECRAFT USING A SEXTANT AND MY EARLOBE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:05:15 UTC No. 16503993
You can no longer see Saturn through the atmosphere of Titan in SpaceEngine. RIP.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:05:48 UTC No. 16503994
>>16503991
What are you smoking, it’s the opposite
The US has backup options for lunar-capable rockets. What do we have besides Orion
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:07:10 UTC No. 16503995
>>16503994
M.O.OS.E.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:07:32 UTC No. 16503996
>>16503994
Dragon/Shitliner to LEO, and HLS LEO-Moon-LEO
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:08:02 UTC No. 16503998
>>16503994
any of the other dozen crew capsules or just hanging out in the HLS ?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:08:40 UTC No. 16503999
>>16503996
Where do you get fuel from to return to LEO
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:08:51 UTC No. 16504000
>>16503989
the NASA executive council doesn't include POTUS
r-right
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:09:16 UTC No. 16504001
>spacex praised
holy based
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:09:23 UTC No. 16504002
i didnt tune in can someone give me the TLDR for that recent update?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:09:26 UTC No. 16504003
>>16503998
Dozens of other lunar capable capsules?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:09:31 UTC No. 16504004
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:10:39 UTC No. 16504005
>>16503999
Bigger tanks on HLS?
Depot to Lunar Orbit?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:10:52 UTC No. 16504006
>>16503999
Lunar ISRU, provides incentive for the ground crew to work quickly.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:10:53 UTC No. 16504007
>>16504000
yeah, because POTUS has delegated his executive authority to the NASA executive committee
SCOTUS has expressly reserved all final judicial authority for themselves, and pee-pee slapped Congress every time they've tried to delegate their own authority
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:11:24 UTC No. 16504008
>>16504006
Lunar ISRU methalox??
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:12:03 UTC No. 16504009
>ow
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:13:03 UTC No. 16504010
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:13:51 UTC No. 16504011
>>16504008
They just have to find some, it'll be fine.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:15:04 UTC No. 16504012
Everything would be much easier if starship didn't require millions of refuels
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:15:31 UTC No. 16504013
>>16504003
what do you mean by "lunar capable" ?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:15:35 UTC No. 16504014
>a safe and reliable way forward
not interested. Into the trash it goes.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:16:11 UTC No. 16504016
>>16504007
oh shit
thanks son
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:16:48 UTC No. 16504018
>>16504012
It would also be easier if we had reactionless propulsion powerful enough to go directly to space, but what can you do.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:17:09 UTC No. 16504019
>NASA WILL PICK UP THE PACE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:17:29 UTC No. 16504020
>>16504012
Not really. refueling (and reoxidizering) will turn out to be a nothing burger.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:17:40 UTC No. 16504021
not enough anons ITT who can explain how skip reentry works
allow me
it's like a smoothe stone skipping off the water when you throw it with applied spin
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:18:34 UTC No. 16504022
>>16504012
They should run up a space-hose to GEO so fuel can just be pumped directly up to a tether depot.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:18:41 UTC No. 16504023
>>16503719
Bestselling EV truck in the US despite Ford and GM's two year head start. The other trucks must be awful
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:18:55 UTC No. 16504024
>more shitting on china
b-based...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:18:59 UTC No. 16504025
>>16504021
the atmosphere has no surface tension though
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:19:07 UTC No. 16504026
>>16504013
I mean that you can’t just send a dragon or a soyuz or a shenzhou or LUCIE or a dream chaser or a starliner to the Moon. You need huge life support systems and new heat shields to do that and both take extensive r&d to upgrade
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:21:28 UTC No. 16504027
OH SHIT, SLS launch cadance being questioned
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:21:33 UTC No. 16504028
>>16503979
why is it squirting like that?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:22:05 UTC No. 16504029
>>16504021
so in this analogy the surface of the water is the Orion capsule and the stone is the Earth’s atmosphere that will skip off of it?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:22:10 UTC No. 16504030
>>16504026
wiki says the dragon capsule can handle 10 days of free flight which is ample amount of time to make it to whereever Orion is going to go
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:22:23 UTC No. 16504031
>>16504027
they won't answer it. They'll dodge and ignore the question
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:22:24 UTC No. 16504032
>>16504028
barge deluge system
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:22:41 UTC No. 16504033
>>16504028
It's about to become an artificial reef
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:23:38 UTC No. 16504035
>>16504025
wrong
I learned about this facet of orbital mechanics more than 10 years ago now.
In fact, there are vessels Americans can operate that interact with the atmospheric surface which take advantage of this effect.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:24:22 UTC No. 16504036
>asking about cancellation
damn... These questions are crazy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:24:25 UTC No. 16504037
>>16503983
https://x.com/ThePrimalDino/status/
>Ok then could you perhaps enlighten us as to a potential solution. How do you dock Orion to a Transfer stage if it doesn’t have a Docking adapter?
His fucking responses are "But I did not eat breakfast this morning" tier. How fucking retarded is he actually? It's a fucking docking adapter. One that doesn't need to open/transfer fuel or any of that shit. Literally just a docking adapter.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:24:30 UTC No. 16504038
>>16504032
so elon went from best deluge system = no deluge system to tryingto put a deluge system on everything?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:25:02 UTC No. 16504041
>>16504040
Hahah
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:25:14 UTC No. 16504042
>>16504036
Blood in the water
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:25:31 UTC No. 16504043
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:26:14 UTC No. 16504044
>Artemis V is going to be Blue Origin
No it fucking won't, nobody thinks that.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:26:27 UTC No. 16504045
ARTEMIS FOUR
>SPACE X
ARTEMIS FIVE
>BLUE ORIGEN
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:26:47 UTC No. 16504046
>starship will take over everything
YOU HEARD IT BOYS
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:27:53 UTC No. 16504048
>>16504037
>How do you dock Orion to a Transfer stage if it doesn’t have a Docking adapter
big grabby arm on the transfer stage
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:28:52 UTC No. 16504049
>>16504037
Prove him wrong, how would YOU solve it then?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:28:57 UTC No. 16504050
>>16504038
water is very good at dealing with fire after all
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:29:01 UTC No. 16504051
This is what happens when you anger Elon the Great with environmental bullshit.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:30:11 UTC No. 16504052
changing the trajectory means losing 50% of the launch window
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:31:09 UTC No. 16504053
>>16504052
I can’t wait for every artemis launch to scrub and re-launch at fucking 3am when nobody can watch
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:31:53 UTC No. 16504054
>>16504052
Considering how rarely it launches does it matter
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:32:28 UTC No. 16504056
>ELON MENTINED
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:32:34 UTC No. 16504057
DOGE mentioned hahaha
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:32:58 UTC No. 16504058
>>16503851
Found this in my folders
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:33:39 UTC No. 16504059
>>16504058
Shadilay
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:33:53 UTC No. 16504060
EDS bait from Grauniad
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:34:05 UTC No. 16504061
>>16504025
the vehicle has a velocity greater than orbital velocity, however, which will pull it out of the atmosphere a little bit
you could also use lift to pull yourself out
>>16504058
they spelled 4chan wrong
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:34:09 UTC No. 16504062
>spacex praised x2
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:34:13 UTC No. 16504063
>>16504049
>Add an additional section that is nothing but a docking stage onto the aft section of the EUS
>Have the second stage that launched Orion be refueled in orbit while Orion is attached
>Add four points on the outside of the EUS section that will be lock on to four metal rods attached to the incoming stage in orbit as a docking mechanism
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:36:05 UTC No. 16504065
>>16504061
the atmosphere will suck you in with drag
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:36:15 UTC No. 16504066
Stream keeps dying hard for me
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:36:38 UTC No. 16504067
>>16504066
same.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:37:46 UTC No. 16504068
>>16504065
yes! and you can time how deep you go into the atmosphere to manipulate exactly how much drag you experience and when the timings of your lift vs drag vs parabolic trajectory will pull you up and down
if you do it right you go down, up, down, which is a skip reentry
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:37:46 UTC No. 16504069
>>16504066
It skipped from Nelson's nation of law to the Indian for me
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:38:04 UTC No. 16504070
>>16504021
This is the spaceflight version of pic related
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:38:10 UTC No. 16504071
>It's too challenging :(
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:39:01 UTC No. 16504072
Oh boy here we go
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:39:04 UTC No. 16504073
>>16503993
Like real life?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:39:14 UTC No. 16504075
Is Berger not there or on the phone?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:39:52 UTC No. 16504076
>>16503988
NTRS is one of the most underrated NASA services.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:43:18 UTC No. 16504077
I like Amit Kshatriya he seems cool and genuinely interested in getting to the moon
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:44:59 UTC No. 16504080
>conference is now over
thoughts?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:45:24 UTC No. 16504081
wow that ended abruptly
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:45:47 UTC No. 16504082
Why does Jim Free seem to despise SpaceX so much
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:49:40 UTC No. 16504086
was in jp class, any major news from the conference?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:49:48 UTC No. 16504087
>>16504082
he represents entrenched interests (shuttle contractors)
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:51:43 UTC No. 16504092
>>16504088
Kek
>The problem is that you're thinking of problems rather than solutions. Have a great day.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:51:45 UTC No. 16504093
>>16504088
but
if the SLS is cancelled
whats the purpose of Orion ?
Just to get humans to some lunar orbit?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:52:19 UTC No. 16504094
>>16504088
saving this prediction
would be kino if it comes true
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:53:02 UTC No. 16504096
>>16504088
cool.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:53:56 UTC No. 16504097
>>16504092
Berger is so based
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:54:29 UTC No. 16504098
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>So long, SLS?
>Multiple sources have told Ars that the SLS rocket—which has long had staunch backing from Congress—is now on the chopping block. No final decisions have been made, but a tentative deal is in place with lawmakers to end the rocket in exchange for moving US Space Command to Huntsville, Alabama.
>>16504093
Currently it's the only crewed spacecraft we've got that's capable of deep space missions. Better options will come along but they need time to be developed
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:55:51 UTC No. 16504099
>>16504094
>>16504088
New Glenn carrying Orion would be aestetic and a good use of the big rocket
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:57:36 UTC No. 16504101
>>16503972
I feel like SpaceX could have figured it out in a weekend
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:57:57 UTC No. 16504102
>>16504088
>Cool.
/sfg/ lexicon updated
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:58:58 UTC No. 16504103
>>16504100
LMAO
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:59:58 UTC No. 16504104
>>16504098
Humans are just payload, you could live for a week in a suit with enough power & air supplied until you get to the moon
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:00:18 UTC No. 16504105
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:00:22 UTC No. 16504106
>>16504100
based berger
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:00:52 UTC No. 16504107
>>16504102
Cool.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:01:30 UTC No. 16504108
>>16504100
Wait since when can GS2 dock and refuel itself? That’s impressive if true
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:01:54 UTC No. 16504109
>>16504099
>New Glenn carrying Orion
kino
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:02:07 UTC No. 16504110
>>16504102
gotta update the sfg-wiki in the pastebin
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:02:31 UTC No. 16504111
>>16504100
GS2 is going to function as a propellant depot? First I’ve heard of this. I knew they needed refueling for blue moon but I figured that worked differently.
>>16504101
SpaceX’s paycheck actually depends on them solving problems.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:05:14 UTC No. 16504114
>>16504100
SLS fags on suicide watch
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:06:06 UTC No. 16504115
>>16504088
>The problem is that you're thinking of problems rather than solutions.
Holy shit now all interactions with spacefag5 make sense
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:06:53 UTC No. 16504116
>>16503461
>just boost the largest and most fragile thing in orbit to GEO+300
Obviously they just need to attach more struts and reaction wheels.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:15:35 UTC No. 16504120
>>16503461
It already gets boosted regularly. Just do that but longer.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:19:20 UTC No. 16504123
>>16504104
and they thought Gemini flights were a tough gig
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:21:35 UTC No. 16504124
>>16504116
If you were going to boost the station to a higher orbit you could actually power a pretty impressive ion engine with the station's existing power systems. The ISS could run an array of 60 gen2 Starlink thrusters and get 10 newtons of (mostly) constant acceleration, and would only need about 20 tons of argon to get boosted up into a 900 km orbit
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:22:23 UTC No. 16504125
Zubrin has said literally nothing about the Isaacman pick. Sad!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:23:12 UTC No. 16504127
>>16504120
The point of my post is that if some component developed in the 70s explodes after decades in orbit and the ISS breaks apart in GEO+ then Earth orbit will be ruined for a hundred thousand years. This is basically the worst possible thing you could do if you're concerned about Kessler syndrome. Compared to Starlink, which is low enough to clear out in months to years.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:27:04 UTC No. 16504130
>>16504129
it;s gonna explode
don't ask how I know
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:29:42 UTC No. 16504134
>>16504125
How does this effect Ukraine and help them nuke Putler though?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:29:52 UTC No. 16504135
>>16504132
What is the payload capacity in pumpkins?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:30:04 UTC No. 16504136
>>16504098
>No final decisions have been made, but a tentative deal is in place with lawmakers to end the rocket in exchange for moving US Space Command to Huntsville, Alabama.
WHAT THE FUCK
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:32:14 UTC No. 16504138
>>16504136
makes locating river rockes easier.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:33:24 UTC No. 16504140
>>16504123
let me play roguelikes I'll be fine
>>16504131
kiss it
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:33:33 UTC No. 16504141
>>16504135
Assuming a $50 bill weighs a gram, block 1b can carry enough to pay to launch it. I want to remake this graphic with that information
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:34:39 UTC No. 16504142
>>16504135
About 380 pumpkins to a 700 km sun-synchronous orbit, or 280 pumpkins to a 250x5700 km equatorial orbit
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:35:40 UTC No. 16504143
>>16504142
Impressive, thank you anon.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:40:02 UTC No. 16504146
>>16504140
couldnt even shit in the bag
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:41:14 UTC No. 16504148
Berger seems pissed off today lol.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:42:07 UTC No. 16504149
>>16504148
It's a >nothing ever happens type of day
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:47:52 UTC No. 16504151
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
>Gateway may not be gone, but Gateway in NRHO is likely gone.
huh??
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:50:41 UTC No. 16504154
>>16504153
Only watching to see what the Italians managed to fuck up this time around.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:53:46 UTC No. 16504158
>>16504154
Cool.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:55:55 UTC No. 16504159
>>16503983
hilarious to see David reminded how irrelevant he is
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:57:19 UTC No. 16504160
>>16504156
Why are the Europeans so cool bros?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:57:27 UTC No. 16504161
>>16504151
it basically already exists, it's a pretty useful solar electric propulsion bus demonstration stapled to a small hab module
you can put it anywhere you want
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:58:15 UTC No. 16504162
>>16504160
If you can't be the best, the least you can do is go for style points.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:58:25 UTC No. 16504163
>>16504156
>solid fuel rockets
lol
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:59:45 UTC No. 16504165
>>16504159
>David
In all seriousness: who?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 20:59:47 UTC No. 16504166
>>16504156
Why do Italiens build solid rockets if they don't have domestically produced ICBMs? I can understand France doing that as an excuse, but Italy?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:04:01 UTC No. 16504171
>>16503839
>you need oxygen for fire
>thinking a gun will fire on the moon
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:05:23 UTC No. 16504173
>>16504166
One of Avio's corporate ancestors was an Italian explosives company that was contracted to develop separation and apogee motors for the very early European space program. They upgraded through small SRBs for the Ariane 3&4 and then snagged the contract for the big boosters on the Ariane 5.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:05:33 UTC No. 16504174
>>16504171
Just use an explosive that doesn't need oxygen. We have plenty.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:06:53 UTC No. 16504175
>>16504160
sexy language
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:07:15 UTC No. 16504176
>>16504151
>Gateway ist kill
>SLS ist 75% kill
based. all those faggot anons telling me earlier that because sls had bipartisan support it wouldnt get cancelled need to stfu. its not bipartisan anymore
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:10:12 UTC No. 16504179
I don't want SLS killed right now. I want it to launch, have a failure which activates the LES. I want it to fail spectacularly.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:11:12 UTC No. 16504180
>an impressive 22 missions since 2012
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:11:27 UTC No. 16504181
>>16504171
It will. Gun powder contains oxidizers.
An actual issue, which can be solved, is that moving components can cold weld to each other.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:12:15 UTC No. 16504182
>>16504176
your dad is partisan on my cock. asshole.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:13:23 UTC No. 16504185
>reentry trajectory changes means 50% less launch window flexibility
>SLS will do tanking tests before Orion attached (just ICPS)
>new Red Team capability to reset FTS on pad without rollback
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:14:03 UTC No. 16504187
>>16504184
c'est fini....
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:15:04 UTC No. 16504188
>>16504184
VGH ARYAN MASTERRACE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:16:15 UTC No. 16504192
ngl this rollcall is pretty cool
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:16:31 UTC No. 16504193
>>16502933
god damn thats sexy
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:17:04 UTC No. 16504194
more africans than america
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:17:15 UTC No. 16504195
>>16504171
>you need oxygen for fire
try fully submerge your pistol into water and pull the trigger
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:18:04 UTC No. 16504196
>>16504195
holy retard
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:19:13 UTC No. 16504199
Vega-C explodes after launch. Yes or no?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:19:56 UTC No. 16504200
>>16504199
It is an Italian rocket
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:21:05 UTC No. 16504202
>>16504199
If it does there's a good chance we won't see it. Lot of cloud cover down at CSG today
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:21:06 UTC No. 16504203
Decollage!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:23:25 UTC No. 16504206
euros literally ship all their rockets across the fucking ocean to launch in a colony
can you believe it
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:23:50 UTC No. 16504208
Second stage nominal
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:24:25 UTC No. 16504209
>>16504208
ugh cringe
euro rockets are made to explode not to fly
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:25:07 UTC No. 16504210
lmfao Boeing dropped a satellite
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boeing
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:25:50 UTC No. 16504211
https://x.com/Dr_ThomasZ/status/186
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:26:04 UTC No. 16504212
>cgi
this is why I only watch spacex launches. Would it hurt to slap a gopro or dozen?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:26:05 UTC No. 16504213
>>16504176
nobody said it wouldn't be cancelled, people told you to tone down your newfaggotry and act as if it would suddenly be an easy task because your directionbrained ass assumed it was purely a leftist creation.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:26:09 UTC No. 16504214
>>16504206
Well, we Germans used to launch in Europe, but the British kept complaining.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:26:16 UTC No. 16504216
>>16504209
Give them a break, it's their third launch this year
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:26:43 UTC No. 16504219
Fairing separation and third stage nominal
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:27:42 UTC No. 16504221
>>16504206
https://spacenews.com/orbex-halts-w
The alternative is Scotland
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:27:47 UTC No. 16504222
>stream died
it's over
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:28:13 UTC No. 16504224
>>16504206
I would have used Madagascar
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:28:24 UTC No. 16504225
>>16504221
Polar launches only. To be honest we should just drop spent stages on Moscow.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:28:55 UTC No. 16504226
N'EST PAS NOMINALE
N'EST PAS NOMINALE
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:29:01 UTC No. 16504227
>>16504224
ports closed
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:30:37 UTC No. 16504228
>>16504224
https://europeanspaceflight.com/ita
Kenya is back on the menu
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:30:37 UTC No. 16504229
>>16504210
If i had a dime everytime oldspace dropped a satellite on the floor
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:31:07 UTC No. 16504230
>>16504224
I heard the Italians might reactivate San Marco off the coast of Kenya.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:34:32 UTC No. 16504231
>>16504223
This is what happens when you launch from a third world jungle and don't even have Starlink.
Must suck to be a euro
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:36:12 UTC No. 16504234
This statement from Isaac Arthur, president of the National Space Society, is characteristic of the response: "Jared is a remarkable individual and a perfect pick for NASA Administrator. He brings a wealth of experience in entrepreneurial enterprise as well as unique knowledge in working with both NASA and SpaceX, a perfect combination as we enter a new era of increased cooperation between NASA and commercial spaceflight."
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:36:53 UTC No. 16504236
>>16504233
solid rockets are so pretty...
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:38:27 UTC No. 16504238
>>16504224
just launch east over the sahara from morroco
or from spain and over the med
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:38:33 UTC No. 16504239
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:40:11 UTC No. 16504240
>french asmr
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:40:20 UTC No. 16504241
>>16504214
it was the direction you missed in that was a bit of a bother
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:41:36 UTC No. 16504243
>>16504195
works just fine, depending on the pistol
you can overpressure your barrel due to the water acting like a barrel obstruction, but if it survives that it goes bang just fine
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:42:06 UTC No. 16504244
>>16503381
Where'd you read that quote?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:42:40 UTC No. 16504245
>>16504238
The Med is terrible for setting up marine drop zones. It's way too crowded.
France did launch their first payloads eastward from a missile test site near Hammaguir, Algeria, but there's been some political bad blood between France and Algeria since the 1960s so that's not an option anymore.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:44:12 UTC No. 16504246
>>16504241
To quote the great Tom Lehrer:
"'Once the Rockets go up, who cares where they come down.
That's not my Department,' says Wernher von Braun"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjD
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:45:11 UTC No. 16504247
Daniela a cute
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:46:41 UTC No. 16504248
>>16504228
I love the friendly waters around Kenya!
The boat ride from Italy to Kenya visits some really nice places, they probably make periodic stops along the shore to show the natives of these wonderful territories their impressive missions to study the climate. Its also a good time to be preachy about their increasing carbon footprint too, not to mention the habitat loss for rare species
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:50:39 UTC No. 16504251
>>16504246
man i hate that jew. what a nasty and slimy little ditty
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:52:13 UTC No. 16504252
>>16503561
Are you the airlockfag? Two hour decontamination protocol etc
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:52:48 UTC No. 16504253
>>16504246
This is the most Jewish thing Ive seen all day, and thats really saying something
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:53:26 UTC No. 16504255
>>16504244
xeeter
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:54:32 UTC No. 16504256
>>16504251
>>16504253
I hate a deicide as much as the next guy, but come one, the guy is funny.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 21:58:13 UTC No. 16504259
>>16504256
his National Brotherhood Week song also remains relevant
>"...and everyone hates the Jews!"
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:03:17 UTC No. 16504261
go back
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:06:42 UTC No. 16504263
Mars pressure at the bottom of Valles Marineris is 0.015 atm or 1200 pascals
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:06:46 UTC No. 16504264
>>16504210
Ideally once Starship flights get ramped up satellite manufacturers will be able to drop a lot of the mass autism and build satellites that are durable enough that it won't matter if take a tumble at the factory.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:06:57 UTC No. 16504265
>>16504261
the spillover from other boards is what makes /sci/ great. there is always a nazi on hand to counter any jewish threat. so with the problem effectively neutralized, its self correcting, they cancel out, and we can talk about rockets
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:08:50 UTC No. 16504266
>>16504256
i can appreciate his linguistic talent while deploring his slimy nasty lies.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:11:15 UTC No. 16504267
>>16504266
I agree, but let's keep the /pol/-discussions on >>>/pol/
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:13:47 UTC No. 16504270
>>16504267
i concur
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:18:11 UTC No. 16504273
>>16504269
American Exceptionalism
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:22:53 UTC No. 16504275
>>16503946
underrated post
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:25:27 UTC No. 16504277
>>16504263
For comparison, thats 1% of earth's sea level pressure, which is roughly ~101K. For comparison, top of Everest has 1/3 of atmosphere or at ~33K
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:28:43 UTC No. 16504278
>>16504277
Even more comparisons . At the bottom of Valles Marineris is the same as if you were at 30km of altitude. Where SpaceX want to land Starship on Mars, has the same pressure as if your were at 38km of altitude
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:34:29 UTC No. 16504280
>>16504264
Some types might, others will try to do more with the same satellite.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:35:09 UTC No. 16504281
>>16504279
Reminder, Musk was once a CEO of online payment firm as well. For a second, I thought the full title would be about Musk. lmao.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:35:17 UTC No. 16504282
>>16504278
so you're saying that it could be worse
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:38:08 UTC No. 16504283
just realized, this is the first year without a Proton launch since its debut in 1965
Good thing Angara 5 is available to carry its workload!
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:49:30 UTC No. 16504292
>>16504174
>>16504171
Neither blackpowder nor smokeless powder need oxygen from the air to burn.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:51:14 UTC No. 16504293
>>16504281
I read it first as
>how-did-the-ceo-of-an-online-payme
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:57:18 UTC No. 16504296
https://x.com/francescospace_/statu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMJ
>Italian YouTuber @jakidale posted an exclusive tour inside Thales Alenia Space on YouTube (link below)! We got an up-close look at Gateway's HALO & I-Hab modules, the (new) extended Cygnus PCM, ExoMars' Rosalind Franklin rover & more! Keep reading for a detailed breakdown.
It's such a shame that it's all going to be canceled
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:57:59 UTC No. 16504297
>>16504295
Also he got mad at Jassy fucking everything up lol.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:00:55 UTC No. 16504300
So, 2026 there is a real posibility we hear "we are go for Martian deorbit burn" or " Starships is experiencing peak heating " or "Aaaand touchdown , Starship Endeavour has landed in Amazonia Planitia, the crowd is going wild ..."
"And we have ..., wow that umbelievable, we have live views from Starship from the surface of Mars"
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:02:06 UTC No. 16504301
>>16504300
>live views
7 minute old live views, but I'll hardly care about the difference when it happens.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:03:37 UTC No. 16504304
>>16504300
>Mars in 2026
Lay off the hopium, things are going fine. Moon in 2028 might actually happen and that's enough.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:04:38 UTC No. 16504305
>>16504300
That's crazy.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:04:57 UTC No. 16504306
>>16504304
i can bet my left nut that Elon and the team is pushing for a 2026 Mars Uncrewed mission
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:07:01 UTC No. 16504308
>>16504306
Even just inserting a Starship into Mars' orbit would be significant, even if you didn't try to land it.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:08:33 UTC No. 16504309
>>16504306
They're always pushing for things, doesn't mean they're going to happen.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:10:57 UTC No. 16504310
>>16504304
An uncrewed mars mission with 2-3 starships in Q3 2026 isn't out of the window of possibilities, depends on how their quickly their ground systems can ramp up. They need to sort out a solution to getting enough methalox.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:12:25 UTC No. 16504312
>>16504309
unless orbital refilling demo that is already planned for summer 2025 fails catastrophically, it's not that big a push to send at least one ship to mars in the next window. The hard part is going to be allocating ships to that effort while HLS development is in full swing, especially if ship/booster reuse turnaround times are multiple weeks/months
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:13:28 UTC No. 16504313
>>16504308
One question: ¿does SS has enough fuel to enter high eliptical martian orbit and then do a deorbit burn ? Like i understand that low martian orbit and then landing is pretty much impossible, but high elliptical and then dip the perigee enough so you reenter i think is ok.
You know what is gonna be funny? Seeing SS at around 10km of altitude and still 3000 or 4000 km/h . Martian terminal velocity is like 1100 km/h or mach 0.9
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:13:53 UTC No. 16504314
>>16504304
With this progress it wouldn't be that weird if they sent an unmanned Starship test veichle to Mars in 2026. Would probably make a good objective for the orbital fuel tests and wouldn't require any new tech. Whether it would succeed to land is another question, but the data would be invaluable.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:14:24 UTC No. 16504315
>>16504295
that's not at all what he said in the interview lol. people actually thought bezos stepping down as amazon CEO meant he isnt involved? he's the majority shareholder in amazon, all of his wealth is dependent on its success. he's literally the boss in the same way as Elon is with X/Twitter.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:15:17 UTC No. 16504316
>>16504313
just aerobrake in Mars' upper atmosphere lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:16:34 UTC No. 16504318
>>16504315
>he's the majority shareholder in amazon
he holds like 10%
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:18:06 UTC No. 16504319
>>16504316
good luck trying to bleed off 8-9km/s with a tiny tiny atmosphere and 200-300t of mass . This is not curiosity anymore, we are talking about almost ISS levels of mass
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:18:24 UTC No. 16504320
>>16504316
areoaerobraking?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:19:32 UTC No. 16504323
>>16504312
>>16504316
With the new administration, accidents will not delay the program unless it caused loss of life.
No more months long investigations when they know immediately what to fix and keep going.
With the step up in cadence, this is important, since accidents happen, and it will happen to Starship again.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:23:21 UTC No. 16504324
>>16504319
thats insane
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:23:21 UTC No. 16504325
>>16504292
I believe most common smokeless powders are oxygen deficient, and will thus burn further when they encounter air while still hot
but yes they don't need any outside air to do their job
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:23:39 UTC No. 16504326
>>16504319
You would only need to bleed off like 600m/s to enter Mars' orbit from a Mars hohmann transfer
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:24:22 UTC No. 16504327
>>16504300
they won't name the first cargo starships
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:25:21 UTC No. 16504328
Do you know what i see happening ? Multiple aerobraking passes. Like 2-3 minimum. Dip the ship into the 60km , reduce velocity from 8.5-9km/s to maybe 7 then again to 5.5 and then again to 3.5km/s and reenter . But the heatshield must endure that many multiple passes
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:27:13 UTC No. 16504329
>>16504326
going from Hohmann to eliptical an then to reentry is much more inneficient than just dipping your hole ship into the atmosphere. Yeah, you reduce speeds but you spend much more fuel
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:30:10 UTC No. 16504331
>>16504313
>Seeing SS at around 10km of altitude and still 3000 or 4000 km/h
Just orbit at 10km for a bit to bleed off your velocity
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:32:50 UTC No. 16504335
>>16504329
What fuel? You will just be aerobreaking on several orbit. Only tiny adjustments done to get the perigee right each aerobrake orbit might require it. But that would virtually nothing and could probably be done with cold thrusters.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:34:21 UTC No. 16504338
>>16504328
if the heatshield can endure one pass it can endure infinite passes
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:38:00 UTC No. 16504341
>>16504338
>t. did it in kerbal space program
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:38:45 UTC No. 16504342
>>16504341
that's just how metallic/ceramic heatshields be, anon
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:45:23 UTC No. 16504346
>>16504342
shut the fuck up
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:46:36 UTC No. 16504347
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:50:33 UTC No. 16504349
*MASTER ALARM *
*MASTER ALARM *
*MASTER ALARM *
CH4 tank pressure HIGH
CH4 tank temperature HIGH
*MASTER ALARM *
Raptor number 3 ignition disabled
RCS port number 4 disables
*MASTER ALARM *
Cooling pump diabled
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:55:07 UTC No. 16504354
>>16504349
Terrain
Terrain
PULL
UP
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:56:04 UTC No. 16504356
>>16503365
5 more weeks
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:56:56 UTC No. 16504358
>>16504105
what disability does she have again?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:58:28 UTC No. 16504359
>>16504190
paizuri from starship chan!
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:05:03 UTC No. 16504362
>>16504354
*Commander Jared Isaacmann reports , we are at 25km velocity 2.1km/s , we have had serious heatshield issues , temps and pressures are though the roof , i think i need to go manual*
*ghhhh Houston to Startship, thats not possible *
*...no, its necesary . INITIATE MANUAL CONTROL, FLAPS FORWARD 30 DEGREES, AFT RCS AT FULL POWER , lets go baby , lets put you on the ground *
*ghhh ground to Starship , you velocity is to high*
*INITIATE ENGINE 1 AND 2 IGNITION , ....wait....wait ....NOW bellyflop! *
FFFFFFGGGGHHHHHHHGHGFGGFHHGHGHFH
*...easy ...easyy 10/s lateral , 5m/s lateral ... cmon easy 1m/s lateral DEPLOY LANDING LEGS *
POOOOGGGHHHHH
*....AND TOUCH DOWN , HOUSTON WE ARE STANDING STRAIGH *
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:06:01 UTC No. 16504364
>>16504359
that's right!
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:08:26 UTC No. 16504366
Berger wants commercialization of space to succeed, because it ensures that he'll have a gorillion unique things to report on, which ensures job security for the next sfgillion years. The perpetuation of SLS compromises this. He's now gonna go all in, the way Elon goes all in, on shitting on SLS, given that it's got an over 70% chance of being sent to the graveyard.
Based SLS killer.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:09:18 UTC No. 16504367
>>16504358
lesbianism
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:10:16 UTC No. 16504368
>>16504337
thats it. nice
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:11:11 UTC No. 16504369
>>16504301
will we really get live views considering the bandwidth limitations?
i'd imagine they'll show a telemetry-based animation like ULA does and then do a replay of the landing from the onboard cameras once they finally upload their footage back to earth
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:13:24 UTC No. 16504371
>>16504313
why are you using the upside-down latinx question marks?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:16:34 UTC No. 16504372
>>16504371
the upside down question mark is used to tell the reader the starting of a question. If its not used, the sentence could be hard to read or be misinterpreted. That why
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:18:43 UTC No. 16504374
>>16504372
The sentence staring with the word "Does" is enough. And even if it wasn't, using unconventional syntax does more damage to the conveying of ideas than any marginal benefits to clarity. The language is fine, stop being autistic.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:21:40 UTC No. 16504375
i fell over on a glass and it shattered. my abdomen is leaking guys. heeelp!
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:22:36 UTC No. 16504376
>>16504375
If this isn't just trolling, call a doctor for medical attention. We're not physicians.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:38:51 UTC No. 16504383
>>16504375
Wrap it up with duct tape.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:48:59 UTC No. 16504388
>>16504369
lol
lmao
Marslink proposals are already in the pipeline
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:52:29 UTC No. 16504389
>>16504388
and they're gonna deploy said marslink during the 2026 window?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:52:31 UTC No. 16504390
fuck you
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:55:36 UTC No. 16504391
>>16504390
good night anon
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:56:34 UTC No. 16504393
>>16504389
yeeeee
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 00:58:19 UTC No. 16504395
>>16504391
good night, sweetie pie
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:00:19 UTC No. 16504397
>No final decisions have been made, but a tentative deal is in place with lawmakers to end the rocket in exchange for moving US Space Command to Huntsville, Alabama.
told you guys. that shit was apparent as fuck.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:03:13 UTC No. 16504398
>>16504393
yeah but that still means the first flights (carrying marslink) won't be streamed
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:03:44 UTC No. 16504399
>>16504397
i also suspect that the creation of a space national guard will be used to offset some of the job losses too. it works out really well, even though nobody thinks a space national guard is desirable. but at least they can fit in with disaster management like hurricanes and wildfires instead of relying on air force personnel trained on space tech.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:12:30 UTC No. 16504404
>>16504383
kapton tape if you are in aerospace though
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:15:08 UTC No. 16504405
>>16504398
It's not like every ship will go in at once, and with Starship you can haul some pretty hefty gear. We might get live views without Marslink, just Starships communicating
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:17:26 UTC No. 16504406
>>16504405
>It's not like every ship will go in at once
Fleet formation departure
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:17:39 UTC No. 16504407
>>16504397
Fine with me
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:25:51 UTC No. 16504413
>>16504397
>Kill SLS but lose NORAD
I guess I can accept this
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:30:33 UTC No. 16504416
>>16504413
norad belongs to northcom, not spacecom
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:31:21 UTC No. 16504417
>>16504416
Orly? I thought spacecom took over the fence
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:39:57 UTC No. 16504419
>>16504417
idk what you're trying to get at. if you're wondering about missile defense then thats the role of the missile defense agency, which is like an inter-agency organization. norad is for more like defense against bombers and other aircraft.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:44:35 UTC No. 16504422
>>16504397
Okay.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:07:52 UTC No. 16504429
>>16503269
>even the Jews are Nazis!
amazing
they really have only one play
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:12:15 UTC No. 16504430
>>16503375
damn, this makes me almost believe Bezos is a decent human being
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:16:08 UTC No. 16504431
>>16503816
you might have noticed that spacex is CURRENTLY TESTING HEAT SHIELD TECHNOLOGY you faggot
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:17:13 UTC No. 16504432
So Bezos said New Glenn is ready to launch and is waiting for FAA
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:17:40 UTC No. 16504433
>>16503927
based
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:17:57 UTC No. 16504434
>>16504093
>>16504099
Orion doesn't get nearly enough hate on /sfg/
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:21:25 UTC No. 16504436
>>16504100
I can't believe how good this timeline is
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:24:35 UTC No. 16504438
Cool.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:25:17 UTC No. 16504439
The Starship can produce mind-boggling effects.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:27:39 UTC No. 16504440
>a tentative deal is in place with lawmakers to end the rocket in exchange for moving US Space Command to Huntsville, Alabama.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:37:42 UTC No. 16504442
https://x.com/sbarky38/status/18648
Look at this!
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:38:19 UTC No. 16504445
If you sell enough river rocks, you get a Space Command HQ
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:43:43 UTC No. 16504446
>>16504434
Orion is a billion dollar a year program that started in like 2004
It's actually insane
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:45:34 UTC No. 16504447
>>16504442
A strange form of brainrot, but kind of cute.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:53:01 UTC No. 16504449
>>16504397
Cool.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:55:23 UTC No. 16504453
>>16504028
it's a bidet to wash rocket asses
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:18:15 UTC No. 16504471
>>16504028
So the booster can see the pad
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:20:54 UTC No. 16504475
>>16504098
new arse
https://arstechnica.com/uncategoriz
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:29:38 UTC No. 16504481
>>16504175
their common language is English...
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:33:39 UTC No. 16504483
>>16504211
>it's covid's fault we're shit!
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:33:42 UTC No. 16504484
>>16502185
Jared cooked.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:48:38 UTC No. 16504493
>>16502547
They would just be a joke if it weren't for their attempts to legally fuck with SpaceX making them an actual hindrance.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:51:12 UTC No. 16504494
>>16504489
>Is there a bathroom nearby? I'm famished
w-what
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:53:15 UTC No. 16504497
>>16504098
Shelby's legacy... gone...
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:02:45 UTC No. 16504505
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:03:21 UTC No. 16504506
>>16504136
Honestly it makes sense, Colorado Springs is fine for chairforcey things but is bad for rocket things.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:03:25 UTC No. 16504507
>>16504489
You fuckin got me
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:04:06 UTC No. 16504509
First starship stage 0, now dronesjips. Next superheavy hostage ring will get a deluge system. Mark my words.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:06:07 UTC No. 16504512
>>16504505
>we haven't met not even one patients with complete remission
Ah, Greek ESLs
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:06:27 UTC No. 16504514
>reading about Gerard O'Neill
>oh yeah, Space Studies Institute is still around, what are they working on
>space solar power
>Woodward Effect Drives (less credible than QI at this point)
>a proposed tin can space station that has gone nowhere in eight years
For fuck's sake is this just academics jerking themselves off?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:16:10 UTC No. 16504518
>>16504514
Always has been. The post-Apollo and Shuttle eras produced some truly broken people. It's understandable, but sad.
I'm glad that I was born just at the right time to have seen how bad things really were, so I could really appreciate what a miracle Spacex is, but not early enough to spend my productive years wallowing in oldspace despair.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:18:05 UTC No. 16504521
>>16502232
The near future for space exploration is looking awesome
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:58:38 UTC No. 16504533
>>16504514
Im bus’ing
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:06:16 UTC No. 16504537
>>16504213
>>16504182
Eat shit and die
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:24:53 UTC No. 16504542
>>16504354
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:26:35 UTC No. 16504545
fuck you
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:33:17 UTC No. 16504552
Big Nigga Jim
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:34:41 UTC No. 16504554
Emailed my two senators about not cancelling SLS.
I love seeing wasted tax dollars to nowhere.
They can just ai the mars landing.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:34:46 UTC No. 16504555
>>16504221
Orbex making a second launch site in the UK was pants on head retarded in the first place.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:38:31 UTC No. 16504558
>>16504556
Never happening plus youre spamming that image
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:40:12 UTC No. 16504560
I can't believe I get to see it die so soon
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:40:36 UTC No. 16504561
>>16504558
it's happening, because it is hard.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:41:36 UTC No. 16504563
Next pick will be Andrew Tate for head of department of woman's affairs
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:42:54 UTC No. 16504566
>>16504561
GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:45:51 UTC No. 16504570
>>16504569
whoops wromg image
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:47:12 UTC No. 16504572
>>16504566
You're a wild one!
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:51:43 UTC No. 16504575
if you cancel sls you will have to redo artemis 1,2,3 which the new architecture
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:52:48 UTC No. 16504576
>design is finalized
>already launched once
Yet somehow it takes years and billions plus a miracle to build and launch the next one? Twenty years to copy/paste the Apollo heatshield to Orion and it still doesn't work? There's no explaining any of this even with the known factors of bureaucratic inefficiency and cost plus contractor grift. I can only conclude there are greater forces at work here that seek to restore humanity to the proper timeline.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:53:21 UTC No. 16504577
What's with all the low quality spam lately
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:59:25 UTC No. 16504581
>>16504576
You underestimate the true power of grift
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:02:23 UTC No. 16504582
>>16504577
Another way to phrase your question:
Why are you still postan?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:06:05 UTC No. 16504583
>>16504575
Cool.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:11:21 UTC No. 16504587
>>16504372
Just read to the end of the sentence?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:18:00 UTC No. 16504591
>>16504576
>design is finalized
You are now aware that the Orion in Artemis I was missing critical life support systems.
Plus the whole completely new upper stage needed after 3 flights.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:19:27 UTC No. 16504592
>>16504583
uh no, not cool. at all. that would delay the program 10 years
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:22:39 UTC No. 16504597
>>16504587
latinxs need spoonfeeding
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:32:10 UTC No. 16504599
>>16504597
*beating
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:36:49 UTC No. 16504603
>>16504599
yeah my dick in they pussy
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 06:44:47 UTC No. 16504608
>>16504589
starships and starship accessories
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 07:14:33 UTC No. 16504616
>How did the CEO of an online payments firm become the nominee to lead NASA?
>by Eric Berger – DEC 5, 2024 1:14 PM
>COMMENTS
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Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 07:16:49 UTC No. 16504618
so they arent changing the heat shield at all for artemis 2 and yet it is delayed 2 more years? why?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 07:20:39 UTC No. 16504619
>>16504616
Yep, the usual suspects are seething about Isaacman's nomination, and not because of the man himself, but because of his association with Elon. EDS and TDS have become dominant fixtures of their entire ideology now.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 07:28:34 UTC No. 16504623
>>16504618
testing, they still need more data to be safe
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 07:33:30 UTC No. 16504624
>>16504136
>>16504397
The pork must flow
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 07:49:51 UTC No. 16504632
>>16504619
Anybody that actively follows spaceflight and isnt personally at odds with him (spaceguy5) thinks its a good pick. Ignore all other opinions, they probably cant tell you the name of every planet without google
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 08:32:43 UTC No. 16504643
/sfg/ è morto.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 08:43:55 UTC No. 16504646
>>16504100
100% this faggot (affectionate) lurks here
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 08:47:02 UTC No. 16504649
>>16504643
We sleepin
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 08:52:46 UTC No. 16504650
>>16504649
martian slaves won't have time for sleeping, get back to work
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 10:04:27 UTC No. 16504677
>>16503595
>Wrong. Tesla is one of the main beneficiary of it.
Straight up untrue
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 10:26:54 UTC No. 16504685
>>16504643
this wonderful mission will never be flown
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 11:04:02 UTC No. 16504697
>>16504475
>Those salty comments
>"WE ARE LIVING IN THE END OF THE US!"
Good fucking lord, man. In 2016, they claimed trannies would be pulled off the streets and killed. Didn't happen. Fucking nothing happened.
I wish we could load all these drama queens onto some chink launcher heading for the sun.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:08:32 UTC No. 16504715
>>16504306
>>16504308
>>16504310
>>16504312
>>16504314
Theses are the same guys that believed when spaceX said they were going to launch red dragons to mars every mars transfer windown since 2018 LMAO, were lucky if we have a moonlanding the next 5-6 years
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:17:11 UTC No. 16504719
>>16504715
hope for the best, prepare for the worst, expect something in the middle ground between the two.
>moonlanding the next 5-6 years
you don't even realize how good this would be. You thought you were some smart nigger for using this as an argument, not understanding that 87% of /sfg/ posters will explosively cum when it happens.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:37:35 UTC No. 16504734
>>16504715
they could, but were short of cash and ultimately sending dragons to mars isn't a useful exercise for settlement development. Now they have loadsamoney and sending ships to mars is a step in the long term plan anyway. Plus as a requirement for HLS they've gotta be able to fully fill a ship in orbit, which gives it enough delta v to go just about anywhere in the solar system
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:44:33 UTC No. 16504736
>>16504160
we used to be
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:49:39 UTC No. 16504738
>>16504734
starship is just too small to send to mars. 100% they'll start developing a bigger version in the next few years
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:51:08 UTC No. 16504743
>>16504300
reading this gave me goosebumps. am i cooked?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:51:58 UTC No. 16504744
>>16504738
I agree but if the heatshield holds up for multiple reentries with minimal refurbishment it's a good start for the next decade or so while 12-15m starship tooling is developed/built
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:52:35 UTC No. 16504745
>>16504159
Has Berger or anyone else addressed any of Willis' points?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:54:48 UTC No. 16504747
>>16504092
Slogans are not a solutions though
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:55:15 UTC No. 16504749
>>16504745
orion goes up on NG
ULA send up a centaur to dock with it
locksneed get paid to develop a docking adapter/mechanism for orion
boing get shown the door
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:57:05 UTC No. 16504750
>>16504749
Is that your own speculation, or does it come from Berger or some other source who potentially has insight into the decision making process?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 12:57:53 UTC No. 16504751
>>16504749
berger has suggested the first two points, the second two are my educated guesses
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:01:45 UTC No. 16504755
>>16504747
Would it be Orion's nose that docks with Centaur? Is Orion structurally capable of handling the stresses of a Centaur burn from the "wrong" direction?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:02:51 UTC No. 16504756
>>16504160
Who?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:04:08 UTC No. 16504757
>>16504171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lG
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:04:20 UTC No. 16504758
>>16504619
I think some people just think that the blatant crony capitalism might have long term deleterious effects on the country
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:07:16 UTC No. 16504760
>>16504758
It might be more blatant now, however crony capitalism isn't in any way new to US politics
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:12:57 UTC No. 16504765
>>16504758
>reducing government spending will ruin the country
real euro retard hours
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:13:34 UTC No. 16504766
>>16504756
I see a capcom, launch director, and flight engineer, what do you see?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:43:45 UTC No. 16504778
>>16504765
That depends entirely on what gets cut, and how the remaining budget is spent
What people are worried about is not so much the principle of cost-cutting, rather, for example, that the government will try to steer procurement contracts and industrial policy depending on which tycoon backed what candidate, rather than what is good for the country
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:49:39 UTC No. 16504783
>>16504685
>without SpaceX the first Mars flyby would be 2048 at the earliest
It really would have been 100 years of SLS.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:56:48 UTC No. 16504785
>>16504744
>decade
>15m
If they understand starship and have raptor totally done I don't see why it wouldn't take a couple years to launch an 18m version
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 13:58:09 UTC No. 16504786
>>16504745
I think his point was that Orion/SLS are not the only arrangement of atoms dictated by physics that makes TLI and lunar return possible.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:01:49 UTC No. 16504787
Isaacman should really put Orion on New Glenn, it's a good way of defeating criticism of favouritism toward SpaceX, and New Glenn is actually really well suited to such a role with its very high ISP upper stage..
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:03:15 UTC No. 16504788
>>16504787
Undeniably looks beautiful comapred to SLS as well.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:03:32 UTC No. 16504789
FAA, NASA or DOD can approve launches
now that Isaacman is going to be a NASA admin, doesn't that mean that they could approve any SpaceX launch under their own bureucracy if FAA is too slow (which I assume will get fixed too if it isn't already)
things are really going to accelerate massively
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:04:26 UTC No. 16504790
>>16504758
It's just a return to tradition. The ability to outright purchase public office was pretty common in Europe until the 19th century. Tax farming was very common. Historically in the UK and elsewhere, you could purchase a military commission.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:04:33 UTC No. 16504791
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1864
Elon Musk is DUMB broo
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:05:16 UTC No. 16504792
>>16504719
>you don't even realize how good this would be
Thats what i mean, moonlandings are possible after 50 years but fags here are talking about their erotic mars dreams
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:05:27 UTC No. 16504793
>>16504787
New Glenn needs to fucking launch already. It's a fucking prop from a company that's never tried reaching orbit.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:06:07 UTC No. 16504794
>>16504786
Yes, however the creation of a completely new arrangement of atoms would take a lot of time, potentially several years.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:07:27 UTC No. 16504795
>>16504791
lmao this is the same guy as this
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:07:49 UTC No. 16504796
>>16504793
early 2025.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:08:23 UTC No. 16504797
>>16504795
he should be thrown out of a helicopter (in minecraft)
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:12:24 UTC No. 16504798
>>16504796
They're not going to succeed on first launch. Maybe if they're lucky they'll get it on the third try.
So try 2028+, not "early 2025".
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:14:13 UTC No. 16504800
>>16504791
NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY MEAN THINGS ABOUT MUSK!!! NOOOOOO I NEED TO POST THIS ON 4CHAN RIGHT AWAY!!! NO ONE INSULTS ELON ON MY WATCH SCUMBAG!
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:15:49 UTC No. 16504802
>>16504798
youre drunk if you think they wont succeed. just because youve gitten used to the haphazard approach doesnt mean adults arent in the room right now. space shuttle worked on first try way before computer modelling of the sophistication we have today
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:16:47 UTC No. 16504803
>>16504800
SLS is getting cancelled and there is nothing you can do about it
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:27:44 UTC No. 16504809
>>16504787
That would be great, if BONG ever finally launches.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:28:04 UTC No. 16504810
>>16504794
20 years at a billion dollars a year? At this point there needs to be a real consideration of sunk cost
>>16504800
I just think it's funny that leftist consensus is that he's an idiot
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:31:20 UTC No. 16504811
>>16504795
Wow, what a coastal midwit. Those are farms on the edge between plains and hills. My only surprise is that there aren't any circle farms there. Go south a bit and they're everywhere.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:32:32 UTC No. 16504812
>>16504788
kinda based?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:32:46 UTC No. 16504813
>>16504810
It's not just about the money. It's about schedule. The US needs to return people to the Moon, ideally before the US election in November 2028, and absolutely before the Chinese land people in 2029.
If it was only about the money, then it makes total sense to immediately can the boondoggle project that is SLS, regardless of the sunk costs.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:35:40 UTC No. 16504816
>>16504802
Go gradatim ferociously back up your ass.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:38:08 UTC No. 16504818
>>16504815
I might hate SRBs. Can I still post here?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:41:41 UTC No. 16504820
>>16504818
I thought that was a requirement.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:42:05 UTC No. 16504821
Total SLS death
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:43:49 UTC No. 16504823
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/
>Booster 14 on the launch mount this morning being prepared for static fire testing on Monday.
>12/6/24
ITS HAPPENING
btw what the fuck is taking so long for BO, its embarrassing
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:49:14 UTC No. 16504826
>>16504823
BO claims they’re ready, and it’s an FAA licensing holdup problem now (I think they’re lying but whatever, I’m just relaying what Bezos is claiming)
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:56:16 UTC No. 16504828
>>16504826
The Elon Musk FAA will kill all space companies in legalese while giving spacex a pass
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:56:19 UTC No. 16504829
>>16504826
>what Bezos is claiming
he's a snake
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:58:18 UTC No. 16504833
>>16504787
Hypothetical spacecraft can't carry actual payloads. Why not just ride a pegasus to space?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:58:57 UTC No. 16504834
>>16504828
And the EDS will cheer it on.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:59:08 UTC No. 16504835
>>16504826
Do you believe it when musk says it's just an FAA holdup?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:01:35 UTC No. 16504840
>>16504835
Yes, because even his own team said that to him in the Diablo leak.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:01:52 UTC No. 16504841
>>16504835
theres probably been some times when they were waiting on the FAA for a day or two because they filed paper work late
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:05:25 UTC No. 16504843
>>16504835
Yes.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:10:46 UTC No. 16504846
>>16504835
Remember when SpaceX blew up the launch pad and spent over half a year repairing it? All FAA delays according to /sfg/.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:22:26 UTC No. 16504851
>>16504846
Much of it was, they had to deal with FAA/FWS nonsense on the redesign and rebuild.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:22:27 UTC No. 16504852
>>16504846
Flight 1 was a surreal disaster. It will go down in history. The rocket was so fucked that it barely made it off the launch pad. It was so fucked that they didnt even have a plan for STAGING...
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:22:47 UTC No. 16504854
>>16504846
like half of it was yes
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:24:26 UTC No. 16504855
>>16504851
>>16504854
This and the cybertruck are the perfect questions to weed out EDS
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:25:38 UTC No. 16504858
>>16504755
Without throttling the RL10s an Orion/Centaur V stack would experience 0.25-0.7g of acceleration riding on a Centaur V, which doesn't sound like it'd be too much. I can't find any specific numbers on the RL-10Cs that the Centaur is using but the general info says that RL10s can throttle down to the 5% range, which should be able to keep forces well within what Orion could handle. I also don't think Lockheed would be very unhappy about getting paid to confirm those figures.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:28:29 UTC No. 16504861
>>16504835
Yes and no. Sometimes it’s obviously the case, especially recently.
First few flights and hop comparing was SX being their own holdup and they blamed the faa to CYA for their HLS milestone misses
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:38:42 UTC No. 16504870
>>16504828
This will not happen
>>16504834
This would happen
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:44:28 UTC No. 16504876
>>16504846
You simply cannot convince anons that the FAA was not stalling SpaceX, because it is a fact that the FAA was stalling SpaceX.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:44:43 UTC No. 16504877
>>16504855
To be clear, EDS here means "Elon Dick Suckers"
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:45:15 UTC No. 16504878
>>16504858
>0.25-0.7g
holy fuck can that even make it to orbit
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:46:18 UTC No. 16504880
>>16504715
Negative nancy, how's it feel being a big fat lady
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:50:29 UTC No. 16504883
https://x.com/SpaceIntel101/status/
>Iran successfully launched the Iranian Army Fakhr1, Saman1 space tug, and a research payload on its Simorgh rocket from Imam Khomeini SLC into 410km LEO (Low Earth Orbit). This is the heaviest payload Iran has ever launched into space.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/i
>The Samān-1 transfer module, along with a CubeSat and a research payload "were successfully placed in an elliptical orbit with a high point of 410 km (255 miles) and a low point of 300 km," said the broadcast.
>"During its eighth launch, it achieved a new milestone by successfully delivering the Samān-1 Orbital Transfer Block and two other research payloads with a combined weight of approximately 300 kg (660 pounds), setting a new national record for the heaviest payload launched into orbit," they added.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:52:13 UTC No. 16504886
>>16504878
Centaur has always been a low-thrust high-efficiency upper stage. It can get to orbit just fine, but it needs Vulcan to give it a lot more of a boost than Falcon would for its upper stage.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:52:32 UTC No. 16504887
>>16504877
Pretty sure it means, total reddit commie death
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:56:27 UTC No. 16504889
>>16504028
old booster shat itself. its an issue with some of the more geriatric models
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:56:39 UTC No. 16504890
Kind of depressing being an adult never making it as an astronaut like >we all wanted to as kids
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:00:42 UTC No. 16504897
>>16504883
When are they going to nuke Israel?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:03:18 UTC No. 16504898
>>16504890
this could change in the coming years, if you don't mind being a moon janny
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:09:13 UTC No. 16504900
>>16504898
I DREAM of sweeping floors on the moon or Mars.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:13:04 UTC No. 16504903
>>16504898
I would literally perform slave labor on the Moon for no money whatsoever
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:15:56 UTC No. 16504905
>>16504878
This is why they stage so high (too high for reuse)
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:21:43 UTC No. 16504910
>>16504855
Cybetruck is the 3rd best selling EV in the US and it hasn't even fully ramped yet
you are as wrong about the Cybertruck as you were about Twitter, or I would guess almost anything Elon Musk related
your seething is clouding your mind, combine this with mid-to-low IQ and no wonder everything that happens is a surprise
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:22:00 UTC No. 16504911
>>16504903
for how long? i tmight get old after a year or so. then what?
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:23:24 UTC No. 16504912
>>16504910
>>16504855
tl:dr your world model is bad
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:26:09 UTC No. 16504913
>>16504910
>>16504912
They are telling workers to not show up for half a week because of low demand. It's a shitty car, and everyone knows it. The only reason you like it is you are an Elon Dick Sucker.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:30:18 UTC No. 16504914
>>16504903
>>16504911
Space X could probably get a lot of free labor for menial tasks if they did a deal like "6months to 1year contract, food and accommodation". Even if there's a substantial base skill floor needed, I'm sure they would be overflowing with aplications.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:32:16 UTC No. 16504917
Time to stage, someone make a new bread we are not using early staged one.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:33:35 UTC No. 16504919
>>16504913
if there was low demand, it would be shut down for months, not days
3 days is a signal of upgrades on the production line
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:34:40 UTC No. 16504923
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:34:50 UTC No. 16504924
>>16504917
Yes sir.
STAGING
>>16504922
>>16504922
>>16504922
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:35:31 UTC No. 16504926
>>16504913
>They are telling workers to not show up for half a week because of low demand
Because of battery supply issues.
The question here is were you ignorant or deliberately lying.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:35:33 UTC No. 16504927
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Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:57:04 UTC No. 16504951
>>16504914
yeah for that length of time id do it for free too.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 19:41:38 UTC No. 16505093
>>16504910
As of Q3 it is #1 bestselling
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 19:57:20 UTC No. 16505104
>>16505093
It's the best selling truck, but not the best selling EV overall; that would be the Model Y.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 23:07:11 UTC No. 16505266
>>16503111
LMAO IT DOES