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Anonymous No. 16515906

Static fires completed - edition

previous >>16513299

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Anonymous No. 16515915

>>16515914
SN33

Anonymous No. 16515918

>>16515909
too pointy. would function much better with a blunter nose.

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Anonymous No. 16515920

kek. Ula is trying to move towards missile interceptor game away from launching rockets.

Anonymous No. 16515921

>>16515918
pointy is as pointy does

Anonymous No. 16515923

>>16515915
SN33D

Anonymous No. 16515924

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1868890203123073078

Anonymous No. 16515925

>>16515920
in its death throes and it has launched twice

Anonymous No. 16515927

>>16515923
Sneedship

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Anonymous No. 16515931

Cai Xuzhe and Song Lingdong Did the first EVA of Shenzhou 19, at 9 hours and 6 minutes from 04:51UTC to 13:57UTC. It is the longest EVA ever, surpassing the record set by James Voss and Susan Helms on STS-102 in 2001 (8h56min)

Anonymous No. 16515933

>>16515931
thatā€™s pretty long

Anonymous No. 16515934

>astronauts did a thing
who cares
>astronauts did a thing, china
WWWAAAOOOWWWW SO IMPLESSIVE HAIL CHINA HAIL MAO HAIL XI

Anonymous No. 16515935

>>16515906
how ugly

Anonymous No. 16515936

>>16515933
Ed White would have loved to be outside for that long.

Anonymous No. 16515937

>>16515931
Did they get any bathroom breaks

Anonymous No. 16515938

>>16515935
it looks almost identical, only nerds like us would even realise it was different.

Anonymous No. 16515939

>>16515934
U OK buddy?

Anonymous No. 16515941

>>16515934
off to reddit, faggot

Anonymous No. 16515944

>>16515906
starship must be growing up - it has acne

Anonymous No. 16515949

>>16515934
Who said that?

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Anonymous No. 16515952

https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1868856377369936212

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Anonymous No. 16515954

Elon may be "no engineer", but he seems to be a pretty good businessman.

Anonymous No. 16515955

>>16515954
I do wonder how much spacex takes from businesses like airlines? Feels like spacex will be dominating that market

Anonymous No. 16515958

>>16515934
t. assblasted westnoid getting mogged by china

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Anonymous No. 16515959

>>16515958
>>16515934
Who are you people? You're not regulars.

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Anonymous No. 16515960

Still time to get a vote or votre in on the name for Canada's upcoming lunar rover. Unfortunately, you have to pick from their list of stereotypically dull options. They are no fun:

https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/news/articles/2024/2024-11-20-what-should-we-call-the-first-canadian-rover-on-the-moon.asp

Anonymous No. 16515962

>>16515937
They're chinese so probably not.

Anonymous No. 16515963

>The EU has signed a deal for its IRIS2 constellation of 290 communication satellites that will operate in both medium and low Earth orbit
>The public-private deal valued at ā‚¬10.6 billion (about $11 billion), according to The Financial Times, is expected to come online by 2030.

Anonymous No. 16515965

>>16515960
>Athabasca
>Courage
>Glacier
>Pol-R
LAME

Anonymous No. 16515967

>>16515965
glacier is probably the least gay of those names.

Anonymous No. 16515968

>>16515920
Seems more like they are advertising themselves as an anti-sat vehicle than missile defense.

Anonymous No. 16515969

>>16515965

They're just going to cheat and give it to the "inclusive" Athabasca option regardless.

Anonymous No. 16515971

>>16515969
How is athabasca inclusive?
I went with that one cause it's the hardest to pronounce so maybe it'll make the stream presenter fumble their words.

Anonymous No. 16515976

>>16515971

Explicitly mention "diversity" for that one and...

> Athabasca originates from a Cree word that means "grass or reeds here and there."

And they'll have some Canadian Indians that look Dutch dancing and waving burning branches at the announcement.

Anonymous No. 16515977

>>16515960
Rovey McRoveface

Anonymous No. 16515979

>>16515960
CLR George Floyd

Anonymous No. 16515982

>>16515976
At least it isn't "Freedom" or "Endeavor" or whatever, something new.

Anonymous No. 16515984

Why not call it
C-Rover 1

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>>16515982

Because Canadians are terrified at the idea of Freedom. They dare not even speak that name.

Anonymous No. 16515991

>>16515959
I've been here since 2016

Anonymous No. 16515995

>>16515984
this anon is onto something. Give him a raise, Trudeau!

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>>16515952
>Rough size comparison between the current generation of gridfins.
>Block 1 gridfins at 3.38m long, 2.57m wide.
>Block 2 gridfins at 4.41m long, 2.81m wide.

Anonymous No. 16515998

>>16515960
Poobar Gaangrapeyan

Anonymous No. 16515999

>>16515996
How much weight does this save?

Anonymous No. 16516000

>>16515999
delete your comment now

Anonymous No. 16516001

>>16515984
What aboot "Le Canarover 1"

Anonymous No. 16516003

>>16516001
french are not real

Anonymous No. 16516004

>>16515920
The final act will be to intercept starbase once and for all.

Anonymous No. 16516005

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1869080468160995439
>Single engine static fire demonstrating a flight-like startup for an in-space burn

Anonymous No. 16516006

>>16515952
What is this style of interstage (hot stage ring) called? Itā€™s used a lot in russian rockets. Just wondering if it has some sort of ā€˜officialā€™ term

Anonymous No. 16516009

>>16515954
He's not a good businessman, he's just lucky. Thats why I hate him. And he's a fraud because he's not a engineer. How do I know? Your rom told me about it in bed last night

Anonymous No. 16516010

>>16515996
some people do say that both length and girth are preferred

Anonymous No. 16516012

>>16516005
cool

Anonymous No. 16516013

>>16515999
it might save some if one of the 4 gridfins is deleted even with bigger fins

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>>16516005

Anonymous No. 16516018

>>16516009
my...rom?

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Anonymous No. 16516019

all governments will be under the rule of the emperor

Anonymous No. 16516020

>>16516018
read-only memory

Anonymous No. 16516022

>>16516018
rom di prisco

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Anonymous No. 16516023

>>16516019
Elon has fallen for the endless politics meetings distractions.... he doesn't even work on starship anymore.

Anonymous No. 16516025

>>16516018
he was inflagrante delicto with your Motherboard last night. She told him many unforgettable things.

Anonymous No. 16516027

>>16516023
thats what people said when he bought twitter, yet here we are

Anonymous No. 16516028

>>16516005
>>16516017
The raptor vac has no reason to exist IMO
They are one aft dome modification away from being replaced.

Anonymous No. 16516029

>>16516028
What about trips to Mars and the Moon?

Anonymous No. 16516030

>>16515906
My head hurt [math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math]

Anonymous No. 16516031

>>16516030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_SwD7RveNE

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Anonymous No. 16516032

>>16516005
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1869086065853902968

Raptoe

Anonymous No. 16516033

>>16516019
>ar nige
based

Anonymous No. 16516034

>>16516019
the anglosphere is healing. the new capital of the free world is Mar-a-Lago

Anonymous No. 16516035

>>16516034
UH OH
STINKY

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Anonymous No. 16516037

>>16516032

Anonymous No. 16516039

>>16516034
>>16516035
Sorry, meant to reply to >>16516032

Anonymous No. 16516042

>>16516037
its over

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Anonymous No. 16516043

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1869087627472978040

Anonymous No. 16516045

>>16516029
It would depend on the fuel gained by flattening out the bottom of the dome, the weight savings from not using extended nozzles and the production streamlining from not producing specific vacuum raptors.

IDK if current RVACs even capable of being restarted? Is spaceX even intending for then to be restarted? It hasn't been demonstrated, only the center sea level raptors seem to be the focus for relights and orbit changes.

RVACs only seem to exist because they otherwise fit in the current design.

Anonymous No. 16516046

>>16516043
The deep state plays with matches, unaware theyā€™re striking against the largest star in the universe: UY Scuti.

Elon doesnā€™t just end fights, he vaporizes their illusions with the gravity of truth. Theyā€™ve underestimated the power of a mind fueled by innovation and a mission for humanityā€™s future.

Anonymous No. 16516047

>>16516043
He's learning from trump. Just say buzwords and you can get away with anything you want. Retards gobble it up.

Anonymous No. 16516048

>>16516043
jesus, all the buzzwords

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Anonymous No. 16516050

Was Mercury once Earth-sized?

Anonymous No. 16516051

>>16516003
What a relief!

Anonymous No. 16516053

>>16515934
Go back.

Anonymous No. 16516054

>>16516050
it got bonked and had its mantle stripped off. dont think it was ever Earth sized looking at its core, but maybe Mars sized.

Anonymous No. 16516055

>>16516006
Tehcnically its called the "Thigh Gap". it's quite highly prized.

Anonymous No. 16516057

>>16515987
>artist's impression of pluto
What is this, pre-2015?

Anonymous No. 16516060

>>16516057
Sir, this is Canada

Anonymous No. 16516061

>>16516043
Some wacko libtard is going to kill Elon, aren't they? That would mean the end of spaceflight for the next millennium or so until the next innovator comes around.

Anonymous No. 16516062

https://spacenews.com/starlink-set-to-hit-11-8-billion-revenue-in-2025-boosted-by-military-contracts/

The Starlink will grow LARGER

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Anonymous No. 16516064

Space Radiation how hoes is taste?

Anonymous No. 16516065

>>16516043
Be prepared for more hitjobs as Trump closes in on the final month to becoming president and Musk working to clean the government.

Anonymous No. 16516069

>>16516064
Shouldn't you be dead if the radiation is that high?

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Anonymous No. 16516070

>>16515920
Spacex chuds cannot handle the 20d chess moves from ULA.

Anonymous No. 16516073

>>16516069
Oh you actually thought the super scary invisible death rays (BE AFRAID) were harmful?

Anonymous No. 16516076

>>16516064
>report to government
lmao nope

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Anonymous No. 16516078

https://youtu.be/0V5X5q4GG40
Hey, Japan is going to try and launch KAIROS again, after the first one blew up early this year.

>>16516073
I saw what happened to Hisashi Ouchi.

Anonymous No. 16516079

>>16516076
kek

Anonymous No. 16516082

>>16516078
Mountain launches will always have a James Bond secret evil lair feel to it

Anonymous No. 16516084

>>16516061
so long as he doesn't just go stroll around out in the open with no one watching his ass, he should be fine. if some random can walk up to you, pull and gun, and end your life, you aren't really trying. That shit should have been taken down the moment he reached for his weapon.

Anonymous No. 16516089

>>16516064
What does the cutoff section about abnormally high readings say?

Anonymous No. 16516090

>>16515920
Wouldn't an interceptor need to have the ability to be launched literally anytime. Doesn't seem suitable for a hydrogen fueled rocket. More for hypergolic fuels or solid fuels

Anonymous No. 16516091

>>16516089
hide under a desk

Anonymous No. 16516095

>>16516089
write your last word on the back of this card

Anonymous No. 16516098

>>16516064
Schrodingerā€™s cat

Anonymous No. 16516100

>>16516089
The end of the sentence is omitted as unnecessary because you won't make it that far.

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>>16516089
stay a bit longer

Anonymous No. 16516108

>>16516106
no witnesses

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>>16516106
More irritating than Chernobyl.

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>>16516064

Anonymous No. 16516115

>>16516113
>noise appears comcentrated on the object as though it was refracted by the cameraā€™s lens

Anonymous No. 16516118

>>16516113
drop and run? i need to think about that for a minute

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>>16516113
same question for this weird bowling ball

Anonymous No. 16516121

>>16516115
Make it better then

Anonymous No. 16516123

>>16516064
its ok unless you have radioactive stuff injected into your body like that cat.

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>>16516120
I loved the week of people drawing anime girls testing with this thing

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>>16516120
Ever gazed upon the blue flash, Master Gibbs?

Anonymous No. 16516127

>>16516115
the post was made by a tranny, what do you expect?

Anonymous No. 16516128

>>16516113
Would it be illegal to laser etch the same labels onto a bunch of normal steel rods then leave them everywhere?

Anonymous No. 16516131

>>16516128
Anything is legal if you don't get caught anon, wipe off any fingerprints and distribute them while wearing gloves.

Anonymous No. 16516132

>>16516128
There's 3d print files for it. Just search "Cobalt-60 3d print file"

Anonymous No. 16516133

>>16516120
>the reddit core

Anonymous No. 16516134

>>16516128
yes. do it anyway. enjoy your life. carry on....

Anonymous No. 16516136

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt-60#/media/File:HD.16.084_(12523991564).jpg

Anonymous No. 16516138

>>16516133
it'll kill your brain dead

Anonymous No. 16516140

fags

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Anonymous No. 16516144

https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1869108913620353406
>SpaceX is preparing to launch the latest pair of O3b mPOWER satellites for SES. These are the first the include the upgrades in response to power issues seen on the first few of these satellites.
>New launch time of 4:30 p.m. EST (2130 UTC). Read more about the mission below.
https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/12/17/live-coverage-spacex-to-launch-o3b-mpower-satellites-for-ses-on-falcon-9-rocket-from-the-kennedy-space-center/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NborEAJneK4

Anonymous No. 16516145

>>16515906
Why is Musk not delivering?
I mean fundamentally speaking Starship is nothing more but a big rocket.
And yet neither the landing part (optional) nor the orbital part seems to be working.
We are not landing on the Moon any time soon as it seems Starship is not gonna leave prototype stage during this decade.

It took Saturn V just 10 years to go from a plan on a piece of paper to a man walking on the Moon.
Starship is already taking longer with nothing working in sight...
Why is that?

Anonymous No. 16516147

>>16516145
I think it mostly boils down to a lack of available talent.

Anonymous No. 16516148

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1gqxvNEaykgxB

in endgame wtf

Anonymous No. 16516157

>>16516145
budget, number of personnel, complexity of project? could be. maybe just dont be such a ninny, you know? it's coming and when it does you ninnies will hopefully feel very very bad about your current behavior.

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>229762 GĒƒkĆŗnĒŹ¼hĆ²mdĆ­mĆ  (provisional designation 2007 UK126) is a trans-Neptunian object and binary system from the extended scattered disc, located in the outermost region of the Solar System.
What the fuck? Even the soulless astroonomer names are better than whatever this is supposed to be.

Anonymous No. 16516161

>>16516159
When you name something after a street in some 3rd world country

Anonymous No. 16516163

I get giddy thinking about Martian colonists one- or two-hundred years from now declaring independence from Earth and becoming fully self-sustaining. And then colonies popping up elsewhere, in the skies of Venus, on the Jovian moons, Titan, and eventually space empires and warfare becoming a thing.

Anonymous No. 16516167

>>16516163
Yeah fantasy land day dreams tend to make schizophrenics giddy

Anonymous No. 16516169

>>16516159
>GĒƒkĆŗnĒŹ¼hĆ²mdĆ­mĆ 
I refuse to recognize the validity of this supposed "word".

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Anonymous No. 16516172

Imagine how much money Elon will make when he discovers the shallow oil wells in Mars

Anonymous No. 16516173

reminder that saying "hitting water at that speed is as bad as hitting concrete" is one of the most cringe and redditish thing you could say.

Anonymous No. 16516176

this is worse than OOMOOAH MOOAH

Anonymous No. 16516177

>>16516176
Oogabooga

Anonymous No. 16516178

>>16516177
We were space fairers and shit

Anonymous No. 16516179

>>16516173
well what is hitting water at that speed as bad as hitting?

Anonymous No. 16516181

>>16516157
>it's coming
There's no guarantee it's going to be successful.
They're no way near demonstrating refueling in space.
While all they're trying to do seems feasible in principle it's just taking way too long.

Time matters.
Being able to do something cheaper, but in 5x amount of time (so not really cheaper nominally, just cheaper per unit of time) is not really that impressive.
Not just my opinion.
Opinion of the whole free market world - as it greatly prefers short-time returns over (even bigger) long-term ones.

It's just a function of how long single human life is.
If people lived for 1000 years then maybe it would be different.

Anonymous No. 16516183

>>16516145
SpaceX hasn't been working full time with infinite budget on Starship for 10 years, what the fuck are you talking about

Anonymous No. 16516185

>>16515960
Leafy McRake.

Anonymous No. 16516186

>>16516181
oh you are going with the cope of "it took x years too long so its irrelevant"

Anonymous No. 16516187

>>16516181
what if, anon, nobody cares about your opinion?
what if, anon, we just want to see man walk on mars, and think this is the best show in town?

what if, anon, you weren't such a party pooper...a debby downer..you know?

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Anonymous No. 16516189

spehs

Anonymous No. 16516191

>>16516183
By the time Musk finally delivers Starship to NASA they'll "forget" (again like with Saturn V) how to build SLS.

Anonymous No. 16516192

>>16516179
asphalt

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Anonymous No. 16516196

3 hours until KAIROS-2 explodes

Anonymous No. 16516197

>>16516189
its soh shineh

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Anonymous No. 16516199

>>16516191
what? what are you talking about

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>>16516189
space really is that easy

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Anonymous No. 16516207

>>16516191
Not a single part of the Shit Launch System relies on hand crafted esoteric fuel injector plates only hand-craftable by generations long dead.
And that's a sad thing.

Anonymous No. 16516210

>>16516199
The usual clickbait popsci shit about how they "lost" the technology to go to the moon when infact it's just there's nobody around anymore that can even begin to produce the injection plates of the F-1 engine.

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Anonymous No. 16516211

>>16515934

Anonymous No. 16516214

>>16516181
>While all they're trying to do seems feasible in principle it's just taking way too long.

>spaceflight stagnates for decades
>i sleep
>one man with a vision and fuck ton of money finally steps up and kickstarts the future of spaceflight
>HURR DURR THEY'RE TAKING TOO LONG IT'S JUST A GRIFT WE'LL NEVER HAVE MEN ON MARS
Kys

Anonymous No. 16516217

>>16516181
>If people lived for 1000 years then maybe it would be different.
Cathedrals were built by generations. The people who laid the first bricks wouldn't live to see it complete. Dedicating your life to something for the future generations to enjoy is the greatest thing a man can do.

>A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.

Anonymous No. 16516220

>>16516148
Bit of flex with the Starlink. I wonder if this particular test is for specific change they did recently for lower latency?

Anonymous No. 16516223

https://x.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1869126814943289577
>NASA and SpX are postponing Crew-10 launch to late March 2025. It will use a new Crew Dragon and they need more time to get it ready. That means Butch and Suni will stay even longer. They're now part of Crew-9, which won't come home till Crew-10 is there.
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2024/12/17/nasa-adjusts-crew-10-launch-date/

Anonymous No. 16516224

>>16516210
>>16516199
People seem to think blueprints and instructions are all you need to build something. There is a terrifying amount of information locked away in the minds of the people who develop and manufacture products that never gets written down. Eventually those people leave, retire and die

Anonymous No. 16516225

>>16516220
it was also on an airplane

Anonymous No. 16516226

>>16516224
SLS is completely irrelevant and should be cancelled
whether people forget to build it also equally irrelevant
the programme should not exist, its an abomination

Anonymous No. 16516227

>>16516226
We need SLS to keep the primes busy while SpaceX eats their entire market. Think of it like the ISS is for the Russians

Anonymous No. 16516229

>>16516217
Partially-build cathedrals just remain in place.
Space exploration is a dynamic process where not only you have to maintain interest of the society but more importantly your own manufacturing processes and production lines.
Meanwhile companies rarely survive just a single succession in the same state as before, especially not companies involved in industries of such size and complexity as space exploration.

Anonymous No. 16516230

>>16516227
not so sure about that, DOGE is coming and there are other disruptive companies like SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16516231

>>16516144
Streams up, T-50:00. Weather doesn't look the most cooperative

Anonymous No. 16516232

>>16516231
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1869126283789242629
>New T-0 is 5:26 p.m. ET. Teams are keeping an eye on weather conditions

Anonymous No. 16516233

>>16516045
There is no reason to believe RVac cannot be restarted.

Anonymous No. 16516234

>>16516210
>>16516224
"People don't know how to do this anymore" is not synonymous with nobody can do this anymore. The original engineers had to figure out that shit from scratch, and new engineers can do that too. Hell, they even have the advantage of better tools for it. Stop bellyaching about lost tech and start wondering if it should be found again instead.

Anonymous No. 16516237

>>16516223
NASA's shortsightedness in ditching the extra seats on Dragon continues to bite them in their ass.

Anonymous No. 16516241

>>16516172
>oil
>mars
grow up

Anonymous No. 16516244

>>16516172
itā€™s mostly going to be peat they find on mars. not glamorous or enough to make you filthy rich, but a useful hydrocarbon fuel non the less.

Anonymous No. 16516246

Reminder, 180 Falcon launch next year and a dozen or two so Starships.

Anonymous No. 16516247

>>16516172
>What is delta-V
He could discover a mine of eager petite cat-girl latina nymphets willing to suck every white man (no matter how ugly) cock and it would still make 0 economical sense to bring them back to Earth.

Anonymous No. 16516251

>>16516234
Way to miss the point. Have fun hand drilling your artisanal injector plates by the way.

Anonymous No. 16516252

>>16516210
Wouldn't it take far longer to actually make all that Apollo-era technology too because of diminished US manufacturing since the 60s? I heard something like that before. Surely NASA losing Apollo-era blueprints is just misinformation spread by moon landing deniers. Most people I talk to don't even know we landed on the moon more than once

Anonymous No. 16516253

We need a descent probe into Jupiter with a camera.

Anonymous No. 16516254

>>16516247
Delta-V would make a nice name for a catgirl

Anonymous No. 16516257

>>16516252
>Most people I talk to don't even know we landed on the moon more than once
God I hate the public

Anonymous No. 16516260

>>16516252
The artisanal manufacturing techniques being replaced with modern processes = lost technology to them.

Anonymous No. 16516262

>>16516257
That's what 50 years in the LEO mines does to the public perception of space

Anonymous No. 16516263

>>16516253
Probe into Uranus is much more important.

Anonymous No. 16516264

>>16516144
https://x.com/SpaceX/live
SpaceX is live

Anonymous No. 16516265

https://x.com/joroulette/status/1869133928579428724
>A power outage at SpaceX's Hawthorne, CA building during the Polaris Dawn mission in September knocked out ground control of the spacecraft for at least an hour before Jared Isaacman and his crew conducted the first-ever private spacewalks. Story w/@marisaataylor

What's cheaper than a redundant system?

Anonymous No. 16516268

>>16516251
Perhaps you missed the point: people obsess too much with old technology. Nostalgia gets in the way of doing better than the old technology.

Anonymous No. 16516271

What the fuck is this stock footage shit?

Anonymous No. 16516274

>>16516265
No part.

Anonymous No. 16516275

>>16516234
If we wanted to build the Saturn V today, it would take longer than it did starting from scratch

Anonymous No. 16516276

>>16516234
Wtf are you even arguing for

Anonymous No. 16516277

>>16516145
it's because your entire post is a fantasy dreamt up by someone who suffers from attention seeking behaviour, likely from a lack of the right amount of parental care and affirmation as a child

Anonymous No. 16516279

>>16516275
>>16516276
See >>16516268

Anonymous No. 16516281

>>16516264
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ70hxuE264

Anonymous No. 16516283

>>16516176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxBUWoKa8aI

Anonymous No. 16516284

>>16516275
If you wanted to build the SLS today it would take longer than it did in 2019.

Anonymous No. 16516285

>>16516284
KEK damn, true

Anonymous No. 16516287

>>16516247
You are delusional. People will buy Mars oil just for the status

Anonymous No. 16516288

>>16516268
You have no point. The point was retards think we "lost" the technology. In reality we lost industry knowledge and motivation to manufacture

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Anonymous No. 16516289

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1869147318743928926

Anonymous No. 16516290

>>16516279
Not reading all that

Anonymous No. 16516292

>>16516289
whats the point of this

Anonymous No. 16516295

>>16516292
Beats the shit out of hearing nothing for 4+ months while Starship sits on the pad waiting.

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Anonymous No. 16516297

Another boring landing

Anonymous No. 16516298

>>16516292
the point of getting a launch license?

Anonymous No. 16516299

>>16516295
>>16516298
whats the point when spacex isnt ready yet

Anonymous No. 16516300

>>16516292
the FAA is getting in line well ahead of the next test.
the Great Elon does not care to be kept waiting.

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Anonymous No. 16516301

>>16516289
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1869145705417249041
>Green light go for Flight 7 of Starship.

Anonymous No. 16516302

>>16516289
Damn they really are going to launch a shipping container full of bananas

Anonymous No. 16516304

>>16516299
so they can launch as quickly as they are ready? what the fuck
this also shows that the FAA has been dragging their feet if they can just give out these out this easily
won't stop whats coming though

Anonymous No. 16516306

>>16516302
chiquita banana informed the FAA of the consequences if the launch license is not approved in time, the Great Elon does not like it when is space bananas are spoiled due to government inefficiency.

Anonymous No. 16516307

>>16516299
Are you retarded? Just kill yourself, you're clearly not sentient.

Anonymous No. 16516309

>>16516301
>"The FAA continues to increase efficiencies in our licensing determination activities to meet the needs of the commercial space transportation industry," said the Associate Administrator for Commercial Space Transportation Kelvin B. Coleman. "This license modification that we are issuing is well ahead of the Starship Flight 7 launch date and is another example of the FAA's commitment to enable safe space
transportation."
someoneā€™s trying not to lose his job the day trump takes office lol

Anonymous No. 16516311

>>16516297
I enjoyed it. I'm just getting into spaceflight. It's cool that landing rockets in the middle of the ocean is now a regular occurence.

Anonymous No. 16516312

>>16516301
>the bananas are going straight into the fucking ocean
SpaceX Starship Test Success Overshadowed by Wasted 100 Tons of Bananas, Courtesy of Elon Musk
While SpaceXā€™s Starship test flight achieved its mission with a nominal success, the 100 tons of fresh Chiquita bananas it carried became an unexpected symbol of excess and waste. Critics are calling out Elon Musk, the worldā€™s richest man, for the senseless destruction of produce, questioning the priorities behind the space companyā€™s ambitious goals.

Anonymous No. 16516313

>>16516307
strangely defensive reply. take a walk

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Anonymous No. 16516314

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1869147310455967955
>The first section of the water cooled deck for the new Starbase tower 2 orbital launch mount was installed today.
>12/17/24

Anonymous No. 16516315

>>16516297
its a Boring Company after all

Anonymous No. 16516316

>>16516304
SpaceX told the FAA that the bananas are at risk of spoiling if they take too long. The EPA also advised the FAA that it would accelerate climate change if the bananas aren't boiled dried in space soon

Anonymous No. 16516317

>>16516312
If they get there fast enough the bananas can be served to the public in Perth

Anonymous No. 16516318

>>16516309
Elon and Trump improving government efficiency before ever taking office. Hilarious

Anonymous No. 16516319

pretty weird how quickly people get used to Starships basically launching every month

Anonymous No. 16516320

>>16516317
They will recover the bananas and sell them for billions. Holy shit why didn't /sfg/ ever call this?

Anonymous No. 16516321

>>16516314
They have no idea what they're doing. These iterations are too big to get them closer to a serialized version of the launch mount/tower. They are iterating too slow

Anonymous No. 16516323

>>16516319
they can't exactly bring up any of the things previously deemed impossible.

the second it happens it's mundane and we ignore it, please forget goy

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Anonymous No. 16516326

>>16516319
Before you know it they'll be flying bi-monthly

Anonymous No. 16516327

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1869086065853902968

Anonymous No. 16516330

>>16516326
Two weeks

Anonymous No. 16516331

>>16516326
They might need the pipeline and refineries installed before that

Anonymous No. 16516332

>>16516319
People got used to people literally walking on the Moon.
So far Musk and his SpaceX hasn't delivered anything new.

Anonymous No. 16516333

>>16516327
Whatā€™s a raptoe engine?

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Anonymous No. 16516334

>>16516332
?

Anonymous No. 16516336

>>16516334
Done by NASA in the 60s.

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Anonymous No. 16516337

>>16516334
goddard did that 100 years ago

Anonymous No. 16516338

>>16516326
you mean semi-monthly

Anonymous No. 16516340

>>16516001
L'astromobile 1

>>16516005
flight-like, except like, this zero-G stuff (yeah, I know they did demonstrate that in the last flight)

>>16516317
What about the biological risks? Apparently I can't found whether bananas are allowed or not: https://www.abf.gov.au/entering-and-leaving-australia/can-you-bring-it-in/categories/food

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Anonymous No. 16516341

https://youtu.be/YO7M0Hx_1D8

Anonymous No. 16516342

>>16516332
what has boeing lockheed martin northrop grumman etc. delivered?

Anonymous No. 16516344

>>16516340
*can't find

Anonymous No. 16516347

>>16516342
>tu quoque fallacy

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Anonymous No. 16516348

>https://x.com/Moriah_Nagy/status/1869151328444072027
I think it's safe to assume the bananas have arrived at Star Base

Anonymous No. 16516349

CHRISTMAS LAUNCH!! AS I PREDICTEDDDDDDDD

Anonymous No. 16516350

>>16516349
whoops forgot the link

Anonymous No. 16516351

>>16516350
You forgot it again.

Anonymous No. 16516354

amazing atheist

Anonymous No. 16516357

>>16516349
fake

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Anonymous No. 16516358

>>16516301
What about Blorigin, they're still waiting

Anonymous No. 16516362

>>16516358
Space is hard, please understand

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Anonymous No. 16516364

Gravity assists seem OP. You just get unlimited free energy? Why have we not figured out a gravity assist generator yet? We could power the planet off Jupiters gravity.

Anonymous No. 16516370

>>16516364
By OP you mean original poster which by that you mean gay, because OP is a faggot? How exactly do you expect an interplanetary gravitationally assisted object to spin a turbine also? Thats what every generator on Earth does, hydroelectric dams, wind turbines, nuclear plants, coal plants, they all spin turbines to generate electricity.

Anonymous No. 16516372

>>16516364
It's not usually free energy, you steal rotational momentum from the planet. This means Venus gravity assists that stop its gay backwards motion and make it spin a little more prograde actually are free since we want it to spin up and stabilize a magnetic field.

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Anonymous No. 16516374

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uFO6BjWSs
uhmmm, he did it again...

Anonymous No. 16516375

>>16515931
>The PRC made this chinaman work a 19 hour shift without any sleep
Truly implessive.

Anonymous No. 16516376

>>16516372
That is a complete non factor for power generation anon.

Anonymous No. 16516378

>>16516006
Grid fins and Soyuz interstate lattice, is there anything SpaceX won't steal from Russia?
for real though, it's interesting to see SpaceX's willingness to use techniques that were previously seen mainly in eastern designs while ignored by western designers.

Anonymous No. 16516380

>>16516375
See >>16515934. You literally did the thing.

Anonymous No. 16516383

>>16516380
Explain how what they did is a technical accomplishment and not merely an abusive labor practice.

Anonymous No. 16516391

>>16516383
No.

Anonymous No. 16516398

>>16516374
Did what again? Post another clickbait video for the EDS crowd?

Anonymous No. 16516399

>>16516374
Noooo

Anonymous No. 16516410

>>16516378
early on I used to think Falcon 9ā€™a grid fins were so strange. I considered grid fins a very distinctly ā€œRussianā€ thing. Soyuz and N1.

Anonymous No. 16516411

>>16516374
this man has unironically gone senile. He tries to debunk the raptor engine, arguing that the thrust is lower than initial estimates in 2017, says that the excuse of environmental regulations is nonsense, insists that starship STILL hasn't gone to orbit and its payload is 0, that all the money has been spent already, that starship exploded (??) when it soft landed in the ocean, etc etc. Also, he literally lies saying that the launch license for ITF-1 was granted in August 2022, arguing that spacex was simply not ready because they finally launched six months later. he goes all out against kathy lueders, jared isaacman, NASA, marcus house, etc etc. HLS contract is not really fixed-price because they were given more, they delivered nothing, musk has to go to jail for stealing taxpayers' money, but he won't now because of trump.

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Anonymous No. 16516413

>>16516374
>That thumbnail
The projection is real.

Anonymous No. 16516416

We watching KAIROS tonight? 10 minutes 'til stream.

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Anonymous No. 16516421

>>16516410
>I considered grid fins a very distinctly ā€œRussianā€ thing. Soyuz and N1.
A lot of Russian/Soviet missiles use them too, ballistic, cruise missiles and air-to-air. Before SpaceX they were almost completely unused on American hardware.

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Anonymous No. 16516424

I like it when they stow flush with the outside of the vehicle

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Anonymous No. 16516425

>>16516424

Anonymous No. 16516428

>>16516309
https://youtu.be/1XQjZwxfA0k?t=25

Anonymous No. 16516429

JP Tiem!

Anonymous No. 16516432

Why is New Glenn not using grid fins? Is it contrarianism?

Anonymous No. 16516433

>>16516432
Quite literally, old space mentality.

Anonymous No. 16516435

>>16516411
The best job he can get in academia is a "member of a research group" in Prague (aka a lab manager at best) despite getting his doctorate nearly 30 years ago.
He has no other real option but to pander harder and harder to the audience he's accumulated. No matter how ill-conceived his criticisms, no matter how baseless, he'll have a steady and probably growing audience of the liberal intelligentsia who like being mad about Elon. He's sliding down his own slippery slope.

Anonymous No. 16516442

>>16516435
He imploded, torpedoed, sunk, demolished and immolated any chance of having a professional career in a proper western nation by going on his anti-feminism kick. He wasn't even wrong about that stuff, but his anti-feminism combined with his general smelly unkempt physical appearance means that HR departments staffed by women will NEVER allow him to get a proper job in a country like the UK.

It was really a strategic blunder on his part.

Anonymous No. 16516443

>>16516374
he said that starship won't get to the moon in this decade or in the next one. quick, someone archive his video before he deletes it like he's done before lmao

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Anonymous No. 16516450

>>16516424
Utilitarian, orcish, brutalist, modernist (?)
I like it though. Sleek for the sake of simplicity

Anonymous No. 16516451

>>16516449
BASADO

Anonymous No. 16516455

>>16516332
Constant rocket launches at dirt cheap prices while landing the booster is very new

Anonymous No. 16516456

>>16516449
Uhh... isn't this cultural appropriation of latinx folks?

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Anonymous No. 16516463

>>16516374
Me nailing this fucking upmass graph to the front door of every single EDSer.

Anonymous No. 16516464

>>16516456
I'm latino myself. I'll allow it. Ā”Vamos SpaceX! Ā”Muerte a los escarabajos!
>latinx
kys

Anonymous No. 16516467

>>16516463
kek, saved. One thing I noticed, though, is that some retards can't into graphs, so the simplified version without zooming in into the small companies/agencies at the bottom of the list could do a better job in showing the brutal mogging.

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Anonymous No. 16516469

Clear live again for KAIROS Flight 2!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqRLPumKUJg

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Anonymous No. 16516470

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqRLPumKUJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIbTHeBNq7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMklPzc44eo

Kairos Flight #2 attempt #3 in T-20:00

Anonymous No. 16516471

>>16516464
Lo siento, seƱor beaner.

Anonymous No. 16516472

>>16516470
The last one was going well until it exploded.

Anonymous No. 16516473

>Fur Elise
Is that JAXA's timed warning siren lol

Anonymous No. 16516474

>>16516456
>Uhh... isn't this cultural appropriation of latinx folks?
This is Mexican shit. I'm an island chad

Anonymous No. 16516475

>>16516469
Another shamefur JAXA failure tonight, gentlemen?

Anonymous No. 16516476

>>16516470
Why didn't Japan ever become a real space power? It's a country full of nerds

Anonymous No. 16516477

>>16516476
Public interest in space in japan is basically nonexistent

Anonymous No. 16516479

>>16516476
They're too busy watching anime and eating noodles.

Anonymous No. 16516480

>>16516476
Japan is basically apathy, the country.

Anonymous No. 16516481

>>16516480
Just like the rest of the first world.

Anonymous No. 16516482

>>16516372
venus has a dynamo
uranus has a dynamo

> Mars 2 and 3 magnetometer experiments report the existence of an intrinsic planetary magnetic field, sufficiently strong to form a magnetopause, deflecting the solar wind around the planet and its ionosphere. This is in contrast to the case for Venus, where it is assumed to be the ionosphere and processes therein which are responsible for the solar wind deflection. An empirical relationship appears to exist between planetary dipole magnetic moments and their angular momentum for the Moon, Mars, Venus, Earth, and Jupiter.

Date Acquired
August 7, 2013
Publication Date
February 1, 1974

>>16516469
wow just in time

Anonymous No. 16516483

>>16516477
There's some pretty big crowds there today to watch the launch

>>16516476
First, they were held back by the demilitarization after the war. It's hard to develop rockets when you're not allowed to develop things that are too close to ICBMs. Once they got out from under that it was the 1980s and the Shuttle program had them chasing Hydrolox+Solids just like Europe. That led to them designing the H-2 which was just a very Japanese version of the Ariane 5, complete with the hypothetical minishuttle that was supposed to ride on top. They've been slowly working to refine that into something that's economically workable ever since.

That's just launch vehicles, though. They're pretty good when it comes to payloads, although they are held back there by not having a budget as large as Europe or America.

Anonymous No. 16516485

>>16516469
she is so hot and knowlegable

Anonymous No. 16516488

>>16516481
I wish there were another western country apart from the US where it's possible to be really free, and one is able to achieve their dreams no matter how big they are. The rest of the first world is loaded with too much bureaucracy, taxes, big government, restrictions, etc. There's also this sense of complacency, where achieving a quiet, and stable life where you have a house, car, job, and wife, is the peak of life, and there's NOTHING more after it.

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Anonymous No. 16516489

SpaceX is going to be in so much better shape when these clowns are gone.

Anonymous No. 16516490

Clear is so excited

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Anonymous No. 16516491

Banana lore is getting interesting

https://x.com/Chiquita/status/1869199065709469809

Anonymous No. 16516493

Clear counting!

Anonymous No. 16516494

It will blow up and clear will CRY

Anonymous No. 16516495

inb4 it blows up on the pad

Anonymous No. 16516496

hauling ass off the pad

Anonymous No. 16516497

damn, what the hell was that TWR

Anonymous No. 16516498

>>16516490
I love my wife :)

Anonymous No. 16516499

VERY HONORABRU DOGLEG

Anonymous No. 16516500

Holy shit that was a hell of a manoeuvre

Anonymous No. 16516501

Good night, /sfg/

Anonymous No. 16516502

Lol rip

Anonymous No. 16516503

OWARI DA

Anonymous No. 16516505

Uhhh why is it spinning?

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Anonymous No. 16516507

>>16516505
GNC failure

Anonymous No. 16516508

ohhhhhh

Anonymous No. 16516509

clearfag, are you ok?

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Anonymous No. 16516510

Well RIP KAIROS-2

Anonymous No. 16516513

Japan canā€™t into solids

Anonymous No. 16516514

KEK, SHE'S CRYING

Anonymous No. 16516515

Did the FTS on the booster even activate?

Anonymous No. 16516516

Well, that was exciting. See you in another year, Kairos

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Anonymous No. 16516518

Elon Musk supports banana death squads
t. WaPo soon, probably

Anonymous No. 16516519

Another happy JAXA ā€œflightā€ for the books

Anonymous No. 16516521

>>16516515
I think this time the FTS was set to be a little bit too permissive.

Anonymous No. 16516522

>>16516519
Space One isn't JAXA

Anonymous No. 16516524

>Clear counting on stream to identify is separation occurred when there's still a visible condensation trail
Feel bad for the clear cope TBDesu, its a total mission loss

Anonymous No. 16516525

Well, I suppose our favorite youtube skeptic is going to debunk JAXA next, right? I wonder if he'll ever even be aware of this flight.

Anonymous No. 16516526

Owari da, entire company will commit sudoku tomorrow

Anonymous No. 16516527

>>16516505
it's a good trick

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Anonymous No. 16516528

>>16516491
Is this like Moon Man and Mr. Sun?

Anonymous No. 16516532

>>16516526
Space One is a joint venture by IHI, Canon, Shimizu Corp, and the Development Bank of Japan. The only way it goes under is if the partners decide that correcting whatever happened this time isn't worth the investment

Anonymous No. 16516533

>the rest of the world can't even compete
lmao, it's spacex vs. everyone else combined, and they are mogging them.

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>>16516268
>people obsess too much with old technology.
>Nostalgia gets in the way of doing better than the old technology.
You speak heresy

Anonymous No. 16516536

>>16516518
>chiquita found liable for colombia paramilitary killings
huh, i looked it up and turns out it's true lol
normies and the media are going to have a field day with this after ITF-7

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Anonymous No. 16516538

>that wild sharp turn during the early ascent
Well at least they didn't blow up the pad

Anonymous No. 16516539

>>16516536
fruit company histories are wild

Anonymous No. 16516540

>>16516518
>Chiquita Brands International, formerly known as United Fruit Company
No fucking way. Of banana republic fame? Can't make this shit up

Anonymous No. 16516541

>>16516537
i-is it drifting MID-AIR?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA

Anonymous No. 16516543

>>16516536
itā€™s pretty well known, at least here in the US, that our banana companies went out and messed around in extremely politically unstable south america countries like this back in the late 1800s/early 1900s. Itā€™s one of those strange things everyone just accepts

Anonymous No. 16516544

>>16516543
its where the term Banana Republic stems from

Anonymous No. 16516545

>>16516544
Yes [math]\unicode{x1F34C}[/math]

Anonymous No. 16516546

>>16516539
When you're forced to do business in shithole countries with no security or infrastructure, you're bound to get a little dirty.

Anonymous No. 16516547

>>16516546
make mars a banan republic

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Anonymous No. 16516548

>>16516537
Too much thrust. It's performing a thaadesque energy management spin.

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Anonymous No. 16516551

>>16516545
banana

Anonymous No. 16516580

>>16516514
After this stream I will comfort her with my pen0r

Anonymous No. 16516582

>>16516489
it's really funny that this thread has been able to consistently call out these hitpiece articles as soon as they've been published, and now we find out Biden has been PAYING for them
spacex really dodged a bullet with trump being reelected

Anonymous No. 16516586

>>16516582
Another one just came out from Reuters TODAY lmao, can't make this shit up

Anonymous No. 16516589

>>16516580
put my penor in too HAHAHA

Anonymous No. 16516596

>>16516301
Why arent any of you jews discussing this?

Anonymous No. 16516598

>>16516596
because we already know/think that launch isn't going to be until january 11th. No NOTAMs or NOTMARs published etc so even if they moved up from that date it would be at earliest two weeks from now

Anonymous No. 16516600

so it's going to be a shipping container full of banana right

Anonymous No. 16516609

>>16516600
>shipping container full of radioactive material
We don't need the drones showing up at Starbase next

Anonymous No. 16516611

>>16516600
Next time it will be firm cucumbers

Anonymous No. 16516615

>>16516483
>That led to them designing the H-2 which was just a very Japanese version of the Ariane 5

H2 and H3 are Japanese versions of Delta IV medium

Anonymous No. 16516620

>>16516586
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/dec/16/elon-musk-government-security-clearance
>Elon Musk will not receive highest-level government security clearance ā€“ reports
>Musk currently holds a ā€œtop-secretā€ clearance that took years to obtain after he discussed use of marijuana on a 2018 podcast with Joe Rogan, according to the outlet. But that may not be enough to have access to information about US government payloads in his rockets.
>SpaceX lawyers and executives reportedly concluded that if the company sought a higher level of clearance than Musk currently holds, he risked being turned down and potentially stripped of the clearances he currently holds.
>But the Journal noted that the issue could become irrelevant when Trump returns to the White House next month.
B-BUT HE SMOKED POTT AAAGHHHHHH

Anonymous No. 16516626

>>16516620
A reminder that classification is solely the POTUS authority and any other government entity with the authority to is doing so with the POTUS authority being delegated to them.

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Anonymous No. 16516637

>>16516615
The H3, yes, but only because convergent evolution bent the H-IIA back towards what the Delta IV had originally intended to be. The H-2, no so much.

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Anonymous No. 16516642

>i think we should authorize musk to-
not another word. that man is clearly unhinged, giving him clearance for anything is the wrong choice 10/10 times

Anonymous No. 16516644

>>16516642
give him the solar codes, I trust Him.

Anonymous No. 16516649

>>16516642
The government shouldn't even exist, let alone "clearance" and classification

Anonymous No. 16516650

>>16516620
There is no higher level clearance than top secret. WTF are they on about?

Anonymous No. 16516654

>>16516649
Average lolberts understanding of the world. You think Mars will be some utopian no government landscape but it wont be.

Anonymous No. 16516655

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/1hgjwdz/elon_musk_and_spacex_face_federal_reviews_after/

ITS OVER
musk is going to lose his security clearance and have to sell his position at spacex
the company will go public
no mars for you
eat shit

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Anonymous No. 16516657

why are you still talking about starship when it has already been deboonked by a real scientist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uFO6BjWSs

Anonymous No. 16516658

>>16516654
It's literally that right now

Anonymous No. 16516659

>>16516650
The histrionic statist's favorite pastime is making up fanfiction to be upset over

Anonymous No. 16516661

>>16516650
ayylmaos

Anonymous No. 16516664

>>16516655
There's a refreshing amount of despair in the comments. These children have been utterly beaten down

Anonymous No. 16516667

>>16516649
Based, we won't make the same mistakes on Mars.

Anonymous No. 16516668

>>16516658
There is nobody to take advantage fo that idiot. You want no government and no laws? Take to the high seas, fag. Atleast you can get there UNLIKE Mars. And by the time (You) get there, Musk will have established a corporatocracy with SpaceX as its overlord, the exact opposite of what you want.

Anonymous No. 16516669

>>16516661
That would be compartmentalized. But, it doesnā€™t exist in a classification higher than top secret.

Anonymous No. 16516670

>>16516620
Musk is worried about WW3, so naturally he is concerned if the DOD is putting WMDs on his rockets. Will he continue to support the Jew up through the inevitable invasion of Iran and creation of Greater Israel? Does it even end there if they succeed?

Anonymous No. 16516671

>>16516655
GO BACK GO PLEBBIT YOU STUPID NEGRO HYPERKIKE COCKSUCKING MOTHERFUCKER

Anonymous No. 16516672

>>16516654
Average statist's understanding of the world. Your days are numbered.

Anonymous No. 16516674

>>16516668
You're being a little hysterical

Anonymous No. 16516677

its actually over muskbros
spacex is going to be nationalized

Anonymous No. 16516678

Elon is trying to get Majestic-12 clearance

Anonymous No. 16516679

>>16516657
see >>16516374, my dear zoomer kraut

Anonymous No. 16516680

>>16516674
Eat shit and die

Anonymous No. 16516681

>>16516677
>spacex is going to be nationalized
Yes, by the Martian Republic in 2100.

Anonymous No. 16516682

>>16516680
Oppan gangnam style

Anonymous No. 16516683

>>16516348
banans for starbase employees to have with their uncrustables

Anonymous No. 16516684

>>16516678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaABVOLkBvw

Anonymous No. 16516687

>>16516678
>Majestic-12
the fuck is th-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_12
holy rabbit hole

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Anonymous No. 16516688

>>16516677
>spacex nationalized, replaces NASA
>elon becomes shadow-president of the USA
works for me

>>16516678
elon always struck me as a bob page type figure. kinda looks like him too

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Anonymous No. 16516694

>>16516688
>Elon loves Deus Ex because he self-inserts as Bob Page
It all makes sense

Anonymous No. 16516701

Trust the plan.

-Q

Anonymous No. 16516702

Thrust the plan.

-QI

Anonymous No. 16516703

2 weeks

-E

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Anonymous No. 16516706

https://x.com/Kosmograd_Info/status/1869249352155447359
>This is a photo of the Kairos rocket No. 2. This was approximately 110 seconds after liftoff. As you can see from the flight wake, the aircraft was tumbling as it flew. At this point, the first stage motor had already finished burning, so the smoke was from remaining fuel and I believe there was very little thrust being produced.

Anonymous No. 16516707

Funding secured

Anonymous No. 16516712

Teams complete three successful Falcon 9 missions in under 24 hours

Anonymous No. 16516719

>>16516712
don't bother, SpaceX has been debunked today. Maybe we'll have to start rooting for rockets that skeptics don't ever talk about, like SLS or New Glenn.

Anonymous No. 16516724

>>16516364
This could be done by sending a stream of pellets from jupiter to earth, then back again. This will be a major source of Jovian income in future.

Anonymous No. 16516728

SHE IS STILL STREAMING WHAT THA FAAAAAAAAAK
https://www.youtube.com/live/g837F0-er_E
CRAZY GURLL

Anonymous No. 16516729

>>16516728
This is a new stream of the post-incident press conference

https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1869259473069727782
>Reports from press conference: https://youtube.com/watch?v=A0aNPyTafr4 via @nvslive; key points typed out by @clearusui
>A Thrust Vector Control (TVC) failure occurred at T+1:20, before 1st stage burnout (~T+1:30)
>1st stage sep (T+2:28), 2nd stage ignition & fairing sep (T+2:55) did occur.

Anonymous No. 16516732

>>16516729
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1869260398391894195
>FTS was activated at T+3:07 after the vehicle strayed off course towards the west, at about 100 km altitude.
>1st stage SRM burn itself was normal.
>Space One themselves have set some ā€œstage goalsā€ for the KAIROS flight test(s), this time completing up to Stage 3.

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Anonymous No. 16516736

>>16516032
minor spelling mistake

Anonymous No. 16516737

>>16516061
>>16516084
Elon has the best security in the solar system. There's no way to come at him.

Anonymous No. 16516738

>>16516678
elon would shit his pants if he got MAJIC clearance and found out that UFOs were real and that their technology was even possible. It would render the concept of chemical or even nuclear propulsion for rockets totally irrelevant
>spend millions of dollars per launch of starship to carry 100 tons to Mars
>or just hop in your anti gravity UFO that bends spacetime and move your shit there like you were loading and unloading a truck every 10 minutes

Anonymous No. 16516742

>>16516738
Boeing has the technology already

Anonymous No. 16516743

>>16516738
I kinda want to see what would be like if SpaceX took a shot at UFO tech. If LockMart or NorGrum or Boeing got ahold of UFO tech like what UFO people say, I don't see why not with SpaceX

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Anonymous No. 16516751

>>16516743
He would get shot for trying to actually use the super tech for useful things.

Anonymous No. 16516752

>>16516748
Damn, throwback

Anonymous No. 16516762

Type 1 here. Not going to lie some of this "drone" stuff is pretty crazy. Been deep in the rabbit hole. Be nice if the ayylmaos just jumped us straight to warp drive.

Anonymous No. 16516765

>>16516762
Exterminatus

Anonymous No. 16516767

>>16516738
UFOs probably still have a nuclear powerplant. Barring some wacky zero point physics even a QI based SSTO design would need an onboard reactor.

Anonymous No. 16516770

>>16516762
What the fuck is type 1. Are you implying youre from a type 1 kardashev civilization? That is pure larp, especially if you dont know what the drones are. Is it some form of autism I dont know about??

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Anonymous No. 16516779

Saarliner status?

Anonymous No. 16516784

>>16516779
no one has deboonked it, therefore it's still legit

Anonymous No. 16516787

>>16516767
unless it really is that easy in field generatorery, where the power requirements to perform the manoeuvres logged on radar are several orders of magnitude lower than what we could currently describe in theory, there must be some meme power source at play

Anonymous No. 16516788

>>16516762
The drones with running lights that follow FAA regulations?

Anonymous No. 16516792

>>16516762
>Type 1 here
huh? you mean, like, you are a 1 in the scale of musk-cocksucking?

Anonymous No. 16516794

>>16516770
Body type 1

Anonymous No. 16516799

>>16516788
The orbs are not running lights

Anonymous No. 16516800

>>16516770
Newfag tourist find the nearest bridge and do a double backflip fuckhead

Anonymous No. 16516801

>>16516799
Lmao

Anonymous No. 16516806

>>16516800
Why dont you answer the question retard. Surely youre not just pretending to know so you can fit in right?

Anonymous No. 16516809

>>16516806
Go back tourist

Anonymous No. 16516811

An orb just flew over my house

Anonymous No. 16516812

Knew it

Anonymous No. 16516813

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16516814

>>16516813
good night, anon

Anonymous No. 16516819

CIA NIGGER PLASMA BALLS IN THE SKY TONGUE MY ANUS

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Anonymous No. 16516822

strange hours

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Anonymous No. 16516823

Get fucked

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Anonymous No. 16516827

malding

Anonymous No. 16516838

>>16516770
He's got the beetus.

Anonymous No. 16516842

>>16516738
I unironically think part of why Elon is so dismissive of UFOs is because it would be a huge blow to him psychologically if he spent his life's work struggling to barely make Mars colonization possible with chemical propulsion while glowniggers were sitting on gravity hack bullshit the entire time.

Anonymous No. 16516844

>>16516842
he is dismissive of UFOs because he isn't a retard
simple as that

Anonymous No. 16516847

>>16516844
I mean it's the correct call on his part regardless in a similar fashion to how personally believing in 100% meritocracy is the correct thing to do as it results in the best possible outcome even if your potential is still capped by things outside of your control like nepotism. Or like the whole game theory argument about how it's best to act as if God exists because even if he doesn't you don't lose anything whereas if he does exist you get to go to heaven.

Anonymous No. 16516850

>>16516842
This is why he hates nuclear

Anonymous No. 16516870

>>16516850
he doesn't hate nuclear, in fact he advocates for more of it

Anonymous No. 16516873

>>16516847
>whole game theory argument about how it's best to act as if God exists
what's this, an updated version of Pascal's wager? Also, you could say that you are indeed losing something when you believe in god or whatever: basically wasting a good chunk of your life worshiping such deity (perhaps not that true in the 21st century, though), restraining yourself from a myriad of things/acts (pork, anyone?), following certain rules, and last but not least, you are ideologically chained to this god and thus not really "free" in life. Of course, this is always assuming that there are only two scenarios: either God, as in the one in Christianity, exists or not. But if you add the many, and many deities that humanity has come up with throughout its existence, then this whole analysis turns kind of pointless. You only had 4 situations at first, because there were 2 questions or axes to begin with (god exists/ doesn't exist, and I believe or don't believe). Now, when you add hundreds of more deities, you'll end up with hundreds of axes in this new compass.

Anonymous No. 16516875

>>16516873
(cont.)
If you believe in one of those gods, now falling into a certain quadrant in the compass/spectrum, then you are not believing in all the others, and thus, you will go to all those respective hells. But if you happen to believe in multiple of them, just to be safe, even though most religions are contradictory to each other, then you will still be punished by some of them, due to worshiping the incorrect deity. It's like playing roulette. You might as well take the default position, not believing in anything, skip this entire mess, and go on with your life. If if turns out that a deity is gonna punish you forever for not believing in them, then you were already fucked the moment you were born into this universe. A reality where a creator or deity basically coerces you into believing in them, who also does not directly show themselves, and instead is always ambiguous, hidden, and expects us all to take a leap of faith, while discouraging empirical and rational methods like the scientific method, is already a hell on itself.

Anonymous No. 16516886

>>16516875
>instead is always ambiguous, hidden, and expects us all to take a leap of faith
Not if you take these things to be 'self-evident.' Also if you're the main character.

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Anonymous No. 16516890

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1869307605778338088

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Anonymous No. 16516903

>>16516890
>suck eggs
what did he mean by that?

Anonymous No. 16516910

>>16516903
No one thinks like the first option. The only question is how many can you get in a single explosion.

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Anonymous No. 16516929

I am a brainlet, will square footage cost for zero g manufacturing in space ever become cheaper than on earth in the next 70 years

Anonymous No. 16516934

>>16516929
maybe for some niche products, but not most

Anonymous No. 16516936

>>16516910
i always accidently alert them and then wing the battle

Anonymous No. 16516937

>>16516443
He still hasn't deleted the starlink video

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Anonymous No. 16516938

Is this true?

Anonymous No. 16516939

>>16516938
Are you retarded?

Anonymous No. 16516940

>>16516939
No, I'm just bad at arguing. The moment someone tells me I'm wrong I begin questioning myself, no matter the subject.

Anonymous No. 16516941

>>16516940
It's badly framed. They know how to manage Musk, but they don't push him out to do it.

Anonymous No. 16516942

>>16516938
>Space *space* X
Stopped reading right there

Anonymous No. 16516943

>>16516767
Aliens recognize that energy conservation isn't real. They do what they want and have no power requirements.

Anonymous No. 16516946

>>16516938
tesla is not suffering, its about to become the most valuable company in the world

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Anonymous No. 16516948

>>16516938
>tesla
>suffering
This guy is retarded.

Anonymous No. 16516950

>>16516940
They have literally no idea what they're talking about. They hate Musk so they immediately assume that every negative opinion about him is true. Most of those tards watch video from some retarded skeptic and act like experts.
Now think about it, if Musk was some clueless rich guy, would he really be able to found and run all those companies? Would he even try it? Just read Liftoff if you want to know how stuff really looks like.

Anonymous No. 16516963

>>16516938
It's true, all of it. Rename Tesla to Muskworks Inc

Anonymous No. 16516998

>>16516292
FAAoids don't want to get fired

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Anonymous No. 16517000

>>16516678
SpaceX mission to the Phobos anomaly when?

Anonymous No. 16517003

>>16516313
No, he makes a good point. Stop being a retarded faggot, or at least don't post about it here.

Anonymous No. 16517004

>>16517000
Probably pretty soon. I did the calculations in a previous thread but tldr is that a fully fueled starship can easily do a mission from the surface of mars to either of it's moons.

Anonymous No. 16517012

>>16516341
such a small banana

Anonymous No. 16517017

>>16517012
It's more than enough, some might even say it's too much banana

Anonymous No. 16517028

>>16517000
You know, I get that people are hopeful about the future but putting the Washington Monument on Phodos is a bit too silly

Anonymous No. 16517029

>>16517012
the banana is in the eye of beholder

Anonymous No. 16517032

>>16516506
https://youtu.be/atuFSv2bLa8

Anonymous No. 16517033

>>16516518
wtf I love bananas now

Anonymous No. 16517034

>>16517012
it suits her, that is, if you know what I mean

šŸ—‘ļø Anonymous No. 16517035

>>16516536
You are now aware that the phrase "banana republic" refers to a country whose government was overthrown by the US military on behalf of fruit growers.

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Anonymous No. 16517038

>>16517012
here's one big enough for (you)

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Anonymous No. 16517039

>>16517038

Anonymous No. 16517040

>>16516940
>The moment someone tells me I'm wrong I begin questioning myself
That's dumb, stop doing that. Most people are full of shit and/or retarded.

Anonymous No. 16517041

>>16517029
You're supposed to put them in your mouth

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Anonymous No. 16517042

>>16517039
not enough? I gotchu man

Anonymous No. 16517043

>>16517040
>Most people are full of shit and/or retarded.
Then the guy you replied to is likely to be full of shit or retarded and he should question himself.

Anonymous No. 16517046

>>16517043
well then, isn't the anon that said that most people are full of shit also likely to be full of shit and/or retarded? In that case we shouldn't trust him one bit.

Anonymous No. 16517051

>>16517039
hey that's MY (you)!

Anonymous No. 16517054

>>16517038
*ACK*

Anonymous No. 16517055

>>16517034
>it suits her, that is, if you know what I mean
what did he mean by this?

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Anonymous No. 16517056

>>16517055
banana suit obviously. You illiterate or something?

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Anonymous No. 16517059

>Say hello to Zenith, our full-flow staged-combustion booster engine, built to power Nova to orbit.

https://x.com/stoke_space/status/1869382032952070399?t=TwWUJTRPBy7OrsDqyKZHAA&s=19

Anonymous No. 16517060

>>16517046
That seems like a good argument but you and I are both likely to be full of shit and retarded.

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>>16517059

Anonymous No. 16517062

>>16517061
what a fat fucker

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Anonymous No. 16517063

Imagine being this big and barely having an atmosphere at all. What a gay moon. Everyone laugh at Ganymede.

Anonymous No. 16517065

>>16517063
she could loose some weight

Anonymous No. 16517066

>>16517060
/sfg/ - Shit Filling General

Anonymous No. 16517068

>>16517056
how did she get up there?

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Anonymous No. 16517069

Imagine being this big and not having a magnetic field at all. What a gay moon. Everyone laugh at Titan.

Anonymous No. 16517070

>>16517068
Magic

Anonymous No. 16517073

>>16517069
>Guys magnetic fields are what keep our atmosphere safe! Without it, the sun would magically blow out atmosphere away!
>Oh, Titan and Venus don't have magnetic fields and have thick atmospheres? WELL THEY DON'T COUNT, OK!

Anonymous No. 16517075

>>16517073
wait, Venus doesn't have one?

Anonymous No. 16517077

>>16517075
Very weak induced magnetic field. Venus doesn't have a liquid core.

Anonymous No. 16517082

>>16517077
interesting, guess that's something I'll spend the night reading about

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Anonymous No. 16517083

https://spacenews.com/axiom-space-revises-space-station-assembly-plans/
>The company announced Dec. 18 a revised sequence of modules it will deploy through the end of the decade to assemble its Axiom Station, starting with a Payload Power Thermal Module (PPTM) that will be installed on the ISS.
>Axiom originally planned to install a habitat module on the ISS in late 2026, followed by a second habitat module and a research module. Finally, a power and thermal module, with an airlock, would be attached, allowing those modules to undock from the station around the end of the decade to be a free-flying station.

Anonymous No. 16517086

Is making a ring around the earth spaceflight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC2ccYpjPHE

Anonymous No. 16517087

>>16517063
Mercury is similarly fat (she has a more muscular build though so she looks thinner but is heavier) and also doesnā€™t have an atmosphere.

Anonymous No. 16517089

>>16517087
she'll be even thinner when we're done with her

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Anonymous No. 16517090

Holy shit.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/power-failed-spacex-mission-control-before-september-spacewalk-by-nasa-nominee-2024-12-17/

Anonymous No. 16517092

>>16517083
Another competitor for first commercial space station bites the dust. Next is Gravitics.

Anonymous No. 16517093

>>16517090
Not a story, everything went flawlessly in the end. Nothingburger being presented as news to make SpaceX look bad because they *checks notes* dont control the powergrid.

Anonymous No. 16517095

>>16517090
>CA power grid fails like it does every week because the state is a 3rd world shithole
>This causes Elon an hour delay
>ELON BTFO!

Anonymous No. 16517096

>>16517093
dumb nigger, you didn't read the article. The outage was caused by a leak in the cooling system of the facility. It was 100% spaceX fault.

Anonymous No. 16517097

>>16517087
Mercury shouldn't even be considered a planet. Its a moon of the sun. Pluto holds that 8th planet slot. How can you be a planet without an atmosphere? You are just a big rock at that point.

Anonymous No. 16517098

>>16517090
>The vessel, which carried Isaacman and three other SpaceX astronauts, remained safe during the outage and maintained some communication with the ground through the company's Starlink satellite network.
Journalists need to be put up against a wall and shot.

Anonymous No. 16517100

>>16517090
How are Butch and Sunni doing this morning?

Anonymous No. 16517101

>>16517096
shut up retard

Anonymous No. 16517103

>>16517098
Elon isn't going to sleep with you, bro. Elon just delayed his mission to rescue the stranded ISS astronauts yesterday. SpaceX is crashing and burning even harder than one of his shitty rockets, lol.

Anonymous No. 16517105

>>16517090
>Anonymous source
>"Outage raises concerns about private space mission disclosures"
>They never actually lost contact. They rerouted through Starlink
>The mission completed successfully
>Reuters article highlights that SpaceX *may* not have notified the FAA...even though the FAA doesn't regulate spaceflight. SpaceX did notify NASA.
Fuck, I forgot how bad the fake news media needs to twist every nothing burger into a big deal via anonymous sources.

Anonymous No. 16517106

>>16517090
>>16517105
https://www.reuters.com/authors/marisa-taylor/
https://www.reuters.com/authors/joey-roulette/
These pages show you the most recent handful of articles attributed to these "journalists", anyone else notice a fucking pattern here?

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Anonymous No. 16517113

Sabine and Neil DeGrasse Tyson have both publicly called Elon a scammer now. Walls are closing on SpaceX.

Anonymous No. 16517115

>>16517113
What is her actual arguement?
Knowing her the title is click bait and her point is totally orthogonal.

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Anonymous No. 16517116

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HNgIJqeyDw
>Why Musk Is Wrong About Mars

Anonymous No. 16517118

>>16517090
reuters gonna reut

Anonymous No. 16517119

>>16517113
>>16517116
Summarize it in 3 sentences or less

Anonymous No. 16517120

>>16517113
Their track record as engineers and entrepreneurs speaks for itself.

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Anonymous No. 16517121

>>16517113
>black science man
But has anyone with an important opinion expressed their views?

Anonymous No. 16517123

>>16517119
Shit you've already heard a 1000x times.
Its expensive. People will die. Focus on earth.

Anonymous No. 16517126

>>16517119
>muh magnetic field
>7-9 months trip time (lol)
>muh planetary science
>Musk doesn't have enough money (Sabine agrees with Black Science Man here)
>people won't want to move to Mars

basically all the reddit-tier low info opinions you usually here, kind of laughable how cliched it actually is
she also mentions that its too early, should develop better propulsion systems etc, kind of surprising coming from her, this general assumption that tech just develops by itself
a reason to go to mars is precisely so there is a forcing function for these things to develop, they don't just fall from the sky

tl:dr a list of the most NPC talking points you could have pretty much

Anonymous No. 16517127

>>16517101
>can't even read a shitty article
>says something retarded
>gets called out
>NOOOOO SHUT UPPP AAAAAAAAAA
/sfg/ is retarded.

Anonymous No. 16517128

>>16517113
>>16517116
I'm always amazed by people that can't comprehend doing great things for the sake of doing it, guess the longhouse meme is right

Anonymous No. 16517129

>>16517128
She's German, nowadays, they're nothing more than an obedient slave race.

Anonymous No. 16517130

>>16515918 Because it is reentering on its side, the radius of curvature of the ring sections are really what matters. The bow shock is probably really far from the surface, which is why the starlink communication is possible.

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Anonymous No. 16517131

SABINE JUST BTFO MARSHEADS AND IDIOT MUSK!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HNgIJqeyDw

Anonymous No. 16517133

>still not a single argument
lol, braindead retards can't even repeat what their eceleb said

Anonymous No. 16517135

FUCK MUSK!!!

Anonymous No. 16517136

Elon Dick Suckers in shambles.

Anonymous No. 16517138

>>16517135
he already has 12 children, give the guy some rest

Anonymous No. 16517139

>>16517131
>>16517113
>>16517116
Buy an ad

Anonymous No. 16517140

>>16517136
no, Iā€™m doing alright

Anonymous No. 16517142

marsniggers have been slain. I genuinelly hope Felon shuts down spacex before getting put in cuffs.

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Anonymous No. 16517144

https://x.com/Starlink/status/1869418379997835757

>Coverage like never before is here! One NZ is the first in the world to launch a nationwide Satellite TXT service powered by @Starlink
helping New Zealanders to be better connected, safer, and more productive. Thanks @SpaceX

If I was there I'd go to some deadzone and send a message just because of the novelty.

Anonymous No. 16517145

>>16517116
>18 minutes
I'll listen to this next time I'll go for a walk.

Anonymous No. 16517146

>>16517073
Not to mention atmospheric erosion takes place over millions of years.

Anonymous No. 16517147

>>16517004
I thought a fully fueled starship could return to earth right?

Anonymous No. 16517150

>>16517147
a fully fueled starship can't even get to orbit

Anonymous No. 16517151

>>16517150
Is this the recent ULA cope?

Anonymous No. 16517152

>>16517147
maybe ITS, but in it's current configuration they'll need to refuel on Mars

Anonymous No. 16517154

>>16517150
>>16517152
I think I misunderstood. I thought you meant a phobos mission launched from the mars surface

Anonymous No. 16517155

>>16517146
but how fast can we build it up?

Anonymous No. 16517156

>>16517145
don't bother, there is nothing interesting in it

Anonymous No. 16517157

>>16517155
2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16517158

>>16517126
Why are scientists so prudish about exploring space now? What happened to doing things because they're hard?

Anonymous No. 16517160

>>16517154
oh from Mars surface to Phobos orbit? yeah it can probably do that no problem

Anonymous No. 16517161

>>16517155
Mars is currently losing oxygen at 1.5kg/s if we can do better than that we will be fine.

Anonymous No. 16517162

>>16517161
that's... too low? are you sure that's correct?

Anonymous No. 16517163

>>16517147
I think it requires one orbital refueling from mars to do this.
Way better than earth but still.

Anonymous No. 16517166

>>16517119
She is basically just saying that terraforming Mars isn't feasible currently and that she thinks Mars colonization isn't currently worth it, dangerous and that Elon Musk probably won't gather enough money for it and probably not enough people would want to go to Mars. Her main points are just sociological and economical guesses and at the end she says that its probably possible to live in habitats on Mars if there is enough funding and that it makes sense to go to Mars for the long term Human survival but that current problems on Earth should get our attention and funding and not Mars colonization, at least not yet. She isn't disproving Elon Musk, she is just having different priorities.

Anonymous No. 16517169

>>16517166
>current problems on Earth should get our attention and funding and not Mars colonization
Dumb bitch should look up how much funding actually goes to manned space exploration.

Anonymous No. 16517171

>>16517090
ancient news

Anonymous No. 16517172

>>16517166
>she thinks Mars colonization isn't currently worth it
Who the fuck is she and why should I give a fuck what she thinks? Everyone has opinions, most of them are garbage.

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Anonymous No. 16517173

>>16517162
As usual it is a nothingburger. This is like telling people not to build a beachhouse because of the movement of tectonic plates.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0019103517306917?via%3Dihub

Anonymous No. 16517177

>>16517166
>current problems on Earth should get our attention
This argument makes no fucking sense. We're not on Mars right now and our problems are no closer to being solved, why would completely ignoring the planet change that? Do these idiots think Musk should just donate all his money to charity and close SpaceX? How about you shut NASA and put all its budget into welfare too

Anonymous No. 16517180

>>16517158
cultural changes. we live in a post-heroic society where every innovation should be about helping people rot consuming distratction media more effectively. struggle for a higher purpose is a waste of time. if the society of 1900 magically had modern technology you can bet your ass every european country would have a remarkable space program. even italians would do shit like a manned flyby of venus. the great poweers would be sticking flags in outer solar system moons

Anonymous No. 16517181

>>16517116
>>16517113
https://x.com/skdh/status/1869412313301934207

her tweet about it

Anonymous No. 16517182

>>16517173
>Observations of the Mars upper atmosphere made from the Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (MAVEN) spacecraft have been used to determine the loss rates of gas from the upper atmosphere to space for a complete Mars year (16 Nov 2014 ā€“ 3 Oct 2016). Loss rates for H and O are sufficient to remove āˆ¼2ā€“3kg/s to space.
wtf so building up an atmosphere is technically possible without an orbital shade or an artificial magnetic field on L1? that sounds too good to be true

Anonymous No. 16517184

>>16517181
BUY
AN
AD

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Anonymous No. 16517186

>>16517177
Your point that the world contains multiple problems is a real slam dunk argument against solving any of them.

Anonymous No. 16517187

>>16517090
>did not respond to questions
The article

Anonymous No. 16517189

>>16517184
kyplanet calm down

Anonymous No. 16517190

>>16517147
lmao

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Anonymous No. 16517192

>>16517182
>I was BORN on Mars

Anonymous No. 16517195

>>16517192
>pic
I always thought that looked silly but I guess not(ish)

Anonymous No. 16517196

>>16517182
>magnet at L1
We'd still need one for shielding from solar radiation but looks like it, there needs to be more Martian resource studies or surveys though.

Anonymous No. 16517197

>>16517192
Where exactly is this on mars?

Anonymous No. 16517198

>>16517197
A crater

Anonymous No. 16517201

>>16517123
Into the trash it goes.

Anonymous No. 16517203

>>16517113
She's an academic whose primary income comes from pseud youtube video ad revenue. literally on the thunderf00t career path

Anonymous No. 16517204

>>16517198
Which one?

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Anonymous No. 16517205

>>16517131
>>16517116
>>16517113
Ok I listened to the whole thing. She agrees that going to mars isn't economically feasible or that useful scientifically. However, she doesn't agree those are reasons not to try. Her main conclusion is that going to Mars is a good driver for technological development, but we should develop and advance those technologies first (habitation, propulsion and energy production) and then try and colonize mars.

There's a lot of background info she gives that I think /sfg/ is getting stuck in. She certainty doesn't seem to agree with black science man, and also throws some shade a rover scientists who are protective of their niche of the scientific community.

Anonymous No. 16517206

>>16517186
So solve multiple problems at once? The Earth won't completely halt if we go to Mars, we can fix our problems here while the colonists work independently over there

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Anonymous No. 16517220

>>16517205
>but we should develop and advance those technologies first (habitation, propulsion and energy production) and then try and colonize mars.

Anonymous No. 16517226

>>16517204
They never say, why?

Anonymous No. 16517228

>>16517131
>ripped jeans
>how do you do fellow kids

Anonymous No. 16517230

>>16517204
A big one

Anonymous No. 16517231

is your name pronounced Sabina? cuz I want to get all up in your sagina, WHAM!!

Anonymous No. 16517235

>>16517205
>habitation

Slor canyons, lava tubes, tunnels

>propulsion

Chemical is fine, we are hopping to mars, not going 99999AU to fucking Pluto or whatever

>energy

Solar, nuclear if the government can be unfucked


Now kill yourself sabine

Anonymous No. 16517237

>>16517196
that's already way way way better than what I thought it would take, this genuinely made me a little happy, maybe it IS possible to do it in less than a millenia

Anonymous No. 16517245

>>16517161
>>16517162
Presumably the rate would be higher if there were hundreds or thousands times more oxygen on Mars.

Anonymous No. 16517255

>>16517205
Fuck off. The main reason to colonise Mars is to colonise Mars. Now fuck off, brownoid.

Anonymous No. 16517259

>>16517245
Right, but by the time we are at those levels we will have the technology to build an artificial magnetic field.

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Anonymous No. 16517261

>>16517205
she openly says she agrees with black science man in the video and again here >>16517181

>I explain why I side with Neil.

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Anonymous No. 16517265

>>16517245
Also that is not what the paper assumes. They calculate that it would take a 0.8 bar atmosphere 4 billion years to erode.

Anonymous No. 16517266

>>16517205
>She certainty doesn't seem to agree with black science man, and also throws some shade a rover scientists who are protective of their niche of the scientific community.
lol she says science would be done more effective with robots
its 100% full on low info mainstream opinions on everything from robotic exploration to magnetic fields to "help earth first"
not a single original thought and she clearly did only the most basic research on the topic

Anonymous No. 16517267

>>16517261
we all know going to mars isn't going to be economically profitable for earth for 100's of years, but thats not really the point

Anonymous No. 16517268

>>16517205
Very high-cost technological hurdles stood between Kennedy's Rice speech proclamation, and the moon landing in '69.

The same technological hurdles stand between us today and the Mars colony getting established.

This is all very stupid. Fuck earthers, seriously.

Anonymous No. 16517269

We have 264 million years to save Mars' atmosphere before it becomes another soulless no-atmosphere planet like Mercury.

Anonymous No. 16517270

>>16517269
4ASS's solution is to take some of the Venus and put it on the Mars instead, how is a mere detail.

Anonymous No. 16517271

>>16517261
>>16517266
You can agree there is no profit incentive to go to mars, and that rovers are better for science, and STILL believe mars colonization is a worthy goal. You are low IQ if you can't understand this.

Anonymous No. 16517275

>>16517271
she agreed it was a "worthy goal" as an abstract and to do it when the "tech is better", which in practical terms means no mars colonization at all
look at what happened with the moon
she is de facto against mars colonization, I'm not falling for this sophist bullshit

Anonymous No. 16517276

>>16517261
Why are white women like this?

Anonymous No. 16517278

Y du wypipo climb mountain? don they know ders no profit incentive an we have problems down here?

Anonymous No. 16517280

>>16517265
>They calculate that it would take a 0.8 bar atmosphere 4 billion years to erode.
I don't see that anywhere

Anonymous No. 16517281

>>16517275
You're just a seething low IQ retard.

Anonymous No. 16517284

>>16517281
projection
sabines content has become weaker and weaker as the time goes on, she is going the way of thunderfoot it seems

Anonymous No. 16517286

>Musk already seething that DOGE is getting stonewalled by politicians that want to protect their interests, which anyone with a functioning brain could've predicted
lol
lmao, even

Anonymous No. 16517287

>>16517286
Lazerpig is right once again.

Anonymous No. 16517290

>>16517286
Source?

Anonymous No. 16517292

>>16517286
>advisory counsel gives advice
>advice is ignored
wow

Anonymous No. 16517293

>>16517286
Who knew that politics has more friction than running companies with dictatorial powers.

Anonymous No. 16517296

>>16517293
explains why government is shit and muskā€™s companies constantly breakthrough

Anonymous No. 16517302

The banana company going all out on this starship marketing. Will probably pick some up next time I get groceries lol

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Anonymous No. 16517306

>>16517116
what a fucking retard. anybody who is actually into space knows this has been discussed ad infinitum for the past 70 years. it's only faggots who are reflexively anti-space and watch some popsci video telling them why space colonization is impossible that think these issues aren't discussed

Anonymous No. 16517307

>>16517287
>my heckin' cool and funny eceleb was right
That dude talks like he has a cock constantly in his mouth

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Anonymous No. 16517309

>>16517113
>>16517116
its annoying how the comments on these videos are always completely anti-colonization. these retards will never support it no matter how much progress SpaceX makes it seems. they hate the idea of colonization not being overseen by some global bureaucracy

Anonymous No. 16517310

>>16517308
>red heat shield tiled starship
would be kino

Anonymous No. 16517314

>>16517180
True. People make fun of the west has fallen meme but it isn't even really an exaggeration. Western society has massively fallen from its zenith, and has lost the will to do great things, even if its more technologically advanced today.

Anonymous No. 16517317

>>16517307
You would know what that sounds huh anon

Anonymous No. 16517319

>>16517317
yeah, everyone knows considering how often you suck him off

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Anonymous No. 16517320

>>16517105
>nothing burger into a big deal via anonymous sources.
Apologise

Anonymous No. 16517325

>>16517314
I went through my entire redpill phase as a kid because of the implications for spaceflight. Apollo wrapped up at the same time that the woke cultural revolution defeated WASP america, so it doesnt take a genius to see the impact. America was the only western country to retain a heroic society after WW2, and it lost it in the cultural revolution of the 60s.

Anonymous No. 16517338

>>16517307
Lazerpig is a retard, I once watched like 15 minutes of one of his videos and stopped once he admitted that the entire hour long tirade was based off one study done in the 50's and everything else contradicted it.
Cherry picking faggot.

Anonymous No. 16517341

>>16517090
>a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter
80% of this clown's stories this year are pure muskseethe.

Anonymous No. 16517346

>>16517338
I've only seen his previous video about the f35 where he makes a lot of good points using the f111 as an example of why dog fighting and planes like the a10 are completely obsolete. Then shits on that boomer that hated on the f35 hard which was fun. Though he is a pretentious faggot so I didn't watch anything else.

Anonymous No. 16517347

>>16517090
Reuters got paid $300 million by the Biden admin to slander Elon's companies.

Anonymous No. 16517348

>>16517346
Gellman amnesia.
I wouldn't be able to trust anything he says now that I know he cherry picks and brags about it.

Anonymous No. 16517349

I can't believe someone would waste time writing articles on a website when children are starving in Africa. Journalists are basically genociders.

Anonymous No. 16517350

>>16517347
>TWITTER SAID SO
Insane how this flipped from triggered leftists to triggered right wingers.

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Anonymous No. 16517353

Yo check out this island fucking up the clouds from space

Anonymous No. 16517356

>>16517350
>twitter said so

The documents posted on twitter you mean my coping democrat friend.

Anonymous No. 16517357

>>16517353
that island is clearly on the ground and not in space.

Anonymous No. 16517362

imagine running a government department high on ketamine. It's so

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Anonymous No. 16517363

>>16517356
>THE PICTURES ON TWITTER TOLD ME SO OK???

Anonymous No. 16517367

>>16517363
they do be like that

Anonymous No. 16517380

>>16517363
And?

Anonymous No. 16517383

>>16517286
seething worked and now the orange man is against it

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Anonymous No. 16517403

kek

Anonymous No. 16517406

I have a felony charge for doing somehting I'm not proud of..

Anonymous No. 16517407

>>16517406
those urfers deserved it, you did nothing wrong anon

Anonymous No. 16517410

Hurr durr aluminium fatigue

Anonymous No. 16517412

>>16517166
>current problems on Earth should get our attention and funding
coool, I agree, can't wait to shut down pointless and hedonistic multi-billion-dollar industries like hollywood, football, sex toys, and videogames, and use all that money to solve poverty and hunger. I'm sure urfers will have no problem doing that. After all, they care about earth problems, right?

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Anonymous No. 16517413

https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/12/18/space-force-says-first-national-security-vulcan-launch-now-anticipated-in-spring-2025/
>The first national security mission for United Launch Allianceā€™s Vulcan rocket might not occur until April 2025 at the earliest, the U.S. Space Force said.
>The third flight for the Vulcan is set to carry a payload for the U.S. Space Force on a mission dubbed USSF-106. But before that happens, Vulcan needs to complete its certification to launch missions under the National Security Space Launch (NSSL) Phase 2 contract.
>ā€œThe government team has not completed its technical evaluation of the certification criteria and is working closely with ULA on additional data required to complete this evaluation,ā€ the spokesperson said in a statement. ā€œThe government anticipates completion of its evaluation and certification in the first quarter of calendar year 2025.ā€
I guess we can call Vulcan's last launch a failure since the hope it would get certified was the only payload it was carrying

>Bruno said last week ULA is still drilling down to a root cause of the issue and wasnā€™t ready to go into detail on that. But he said ā€œitā€™s not the first time that I have liberated a nozzle in my several decades of building rockets...So long way of saying, [we have] a pretty good idea what happened and minor modifications that would be necessary and desired to correct that [are] already underway.ā€
Does this mean that the stockpile of GEM-63XLs they were building up can't be used? You can't really modify a monolithic SRB after you've built it

Not a lot of good news for Vulcan but a huge pile of cope

Anonymous No. 16517415

>>16517413
wasn't this piece of garbage supposed to be launching kuiper satellites already? kek, bezos is in shambles

Anonymous No. 16517417

>>16517413
Imagine if they could just launch a lot of rockets to identify all issues and resolve them by testing.

Anonymous No. 16517420

>>16517415
>Bruno said ULA has 20 missions on its 2025 manifest, but couched that number by saying that the final tally at the end of the year will partly depend on the readiness of the payloads. He said the 20 launches are split fairly evenly between Atlas 5 rockets and Vulcan, with slightly more for the former.
>With Vulcan potentially waiting until spring to launch again, Bruno said there is the possibility that a launch for Amazonā€™s Project Kuiper satellite internet constellation could move to the front of the launch line in the new year. Amazon purchased nine launches for its satellites on Atlas 5 rockets and 38 on Vulcan rockets

That's dependent on Kuiper having any payloads finished for ULA to launch. There were fifteen months between the launch of the Starlink prototypes and the first test launch, and then another six months before the launch of the first batch of V1 units. Kuiper's prototype launch was nearly a year ago, and their hardware teams aren't moving at SpaceX's speed.

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Anonymous No. 16517422

Starship super heavy MECO statistics:
>40 miles
>5000mph
>159s burn time
This is similar to the Saturn V' S-IC and it requires 5 hydrolox J-2 engines to get to orbit. S-II is also much lighter than the Ship.
Bros... Is this system ever going to work?

Anonymous No. 16517423

You guys seen Verse Project?
>1:1 replica of the solar system
>community driven economy, wars etc.
>can explore every inch of your favourite planet/moon
>no loading screens like star citizen
>demo is out

I haven't seen much of it, but the premise is very interesting and basically all I've ever wanted from a space game. I don't need a fancy custom star system, a deep story to follow, or Star Wars-type alien races everywhere. Just let me explore space.

Anonymous No. 16517424

>>16517423
buy an ad

Anonymous No. 16517425

>>16517090
>>16517098
You think you hate journalists enough already, but you do not.

Anonymous No. 16517426

>>16517422
The J-2 tops out at 1033 KN. The engines on Starship produce 2530 KN, and it has more of them. The J-2 was an underpowered engine for the Saturn V's flight profile.

Anonymous No. 16517427

>>16517271
>rovers are better for science,
All the science that rovers can do is completely pointless if not to further the goal of putting human settlements on Mars.

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Anonymous No. 16517428

>>16517403
Do retards actually fall for these "insider" /pol/ posts still?

Anonymous No. 16517430

>>16517428
Retards will fall for anything that tells them something they want to believe. Half of /pol/ still believes that copypasta about the woman who drilled a hole in a soyuz also smearing her poop on all the walls of the space station and somehow making the station radioactive by misusing a wrench or some incoherrent nonsense like that.

Anonymous No. 16517431

>>16517428
inside 'er? well if you insist

Anonymous No. 16517432

>>16517431
in sis? well if you say so

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Anonymous No. 16517434

>>16517431
>>16517432
God damn it guys

Anonymous No. 16517435

>>16517427
also rovers are shit for science, the ROI is like 1000x better with human exploration if you compare activity on the moon

Anonymous No. 16517436

>>16517276
Constant need for attention.

Anonymous No. 16517442

>>16517428
I think it's funnier that NASA even responded

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Anonymous No. 16517443

Where should the official /sfg/ meetup be?

Anonymous No. 16517446

>>16517443
discord obviously

Anonymous No. 16517454

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1869508343494312330

Anonymous No. 16517455

>>16517454
>Elon Musk, 2018:
>Maybe that plan works out, but I will seriously eat my hat with a side of mustard if that rocket flies a national security spacecraft before 2023
>Eric Berger, today:
>Could have said 2Q 2025.

Anonymous No. 16517456

>>16517443
Callisto

Anonymous No. 16517462

>>16517172
She's a failed postdoc turned grifter

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Anonymous No. 16517463

Be honest, you want to see her blast off

Anonymous No. 16517465

>>16517456
We will create the United Jovian Empire. I've started working on a flag design.

Anonymous No. 16517468

>>16517428
the fact that NASA responded makes me want to believe it

Anonymous No. 16517470

NASA Admin Bill Nelson just said he will unveil an alternative Mars architecture in Jan(before Trump takes office for the next admin to consider).

Anonymous No. 16517471

>>16517468
It's an understandable impulse, but a catastrophic air leak like that would be very visible just tracking passes and everyone would be saying it's doomed. There's been zero deviation in the station's trajectory, down to the millisecond.

Anonymous No. 16517472

>>16517463
Fingerblast off maybe

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Anonymous No. 16517473

>>16517403
sometimes you just get a stark reminder on normalfag social media that the average human is literal cattle too dumb to understand the very basics of how gravity works.

Anonymous No. 16517474

>>16517472
Ok WOW

Anonymous No. 16517479

>>16517470
that's cool but it will go straight to the shredder if it's not based around starship

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Anonymous No. 16517494

Martians are the same as you or I, just normal people. You can't even tell the difference bigot

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Anonymous No. 16517497

If you're really a space autist, name these three moons without looking them up.

Anonymous No. 16517498

>>16517497
Huey, Dewey and Louie

Anonymous No. 16517499

>>16517497
insignificant space dust compared to Venus
I doubt they even have carbon

Anonymous No. 16517500

>>16517497
Ed, Edd n Eddy

Anonymous No. 16517501

If two astronauts dueled EVA with swords, would blood cold-weld to a steel blade?

Anonymous No. 16517504

>>16517501
no because both are oxidized

Anonymous No. 16517511

https://x.com/KathyLueders/status/1869522257321832720

Bananas

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Anonymous No. 16517530

>>16517494
Longfu is loooong

Anonymous No. 16517532

>>16517501
Only identical metals cold-weld, because the atoms don't know which piece they're supposed to be in. Dissimilar materials can't cold-weld.

Anonymous No. 16517542

>>16517463
mogged hard by starship-chan

Anonymous No. 16517543

Even if they have respectable degrees from respectable universities, every time I hear someone ā€œof authorityā€ trying to debunk, downplay, raise concerns, etc. about the Musk mars project they always just rehash really retarded ideas and worries that have already been proven wrong. Radiation? Transit time? People might die? Like seriously this is the best counter argument??
This is all to say: I really think Musk is goingā€”or at least, has the ability ā€˜on paperā€™ to actually build an ecosystem (starlink money, a working super heavy lift rocket that can refuel, trust and cooperation of NASA, the just goes on) that will get humans there. And the last three-four(ish) years have shown just how much NASA is loving them as their new primary contractor. For fucks sake, spacex basically just hand-picked the incoming NASA administrationā€¦ a reality NO ONE could have seen coming in like circa 2015. The tables have completely flipped. Itā€™s Elonā€™s playing field and heā€™s not only providing the equipment but rewriting the rules.
Neil DeTard Tyson and that dumb euro professor posted above and thunderfag and CSS et cetera are going to have to walk back their doubts one day. One day soon, in fact. Mars is closer than it has ever been, and you can point to one guy for that

Anonymous No. 16517548

>>16517532
Blood and steel both contain iron.

Anonymous No. 16517557

>>16517121
>>16517116
>>16517113

>>>/wsg/5761728

Anonymous No. 16517559

>>16517548
lol and salt has sodium in it. but it doesnt blow up when you put it in water, what gives?

Anonymous No. 16517560

Labor will be mandatory and unpaid on Mars, and it will be for the SpaceX corporatocracy, lolberts will refute this.

Anonymous No. 16517561

>>16517463
I just want to see it explode on the pad with several fatalities

Anonymous No. 16517562

>>16516372
untrue, it steals orbital momentum from the planet, which causes it to fall in towards the sun slightly every time

Anonymous No. 16517563

>>16517560
yeah whatever you also get child brides

Anonymous No. 16517564

>>16517560
How is SpaceX going to make a profit off of Martian labor if there's no feasible way to export anything back to Earth?

Anonymous No. 16517570

>>16517564
Did you know that significant portions of developed economies produce goods and services that are entirely digital?

Anonymous No. 16517576

>>16517570
You are actually retarded if you think SpaceX is going to run a tech industry for Earth consumers on Mars with a latency time of up to 40 minutes between Earth and Mars depending on where they are in their orbits. Most people can't even tolerate three seconds of latency.

Anonymous No. 16517581

>>16517576
Let's not be so hasty to throw around words like "retard."

Books, films and software are created digitally and don't require any particular latencies. Likewise for engineering, data analysis, etc.

Anonymous No. 16517582

>>16517286
That "seething" looks like it succeeded in killing the bill
lol
lmao, even

Anonymous No. 16517585

>>16517581
the martian economy is going to be based on exporting low gravity porno

Anonymous No. 16517587

>>16517564
>no feasible way
starships

Anonymous No. 16517588

>>16517581
>Books, films and software are created digitally and don't require any particular latencies. Likewise for engineering, data analysis, etc.
All this can be done on Earth and even with the additional labor cost will probably be cheaper than the logistics of outsourcing this to an entirely different planet that will have it's own issues to deal with.
I agree that labor on Mars will likely be unpaid but it won't be for the sake of SpaceX's profit since there's no feasible way to turn a profit with the sheer distance that Mars is away from Earth and the complicated logistics of it all. The labor will instead be used to build the colony, like a Jamestown or other early colonial European settlement situation.
Most Martians won't even have the time to care about exports to Earth since all that will matter to them is building the colony. Things like books and movies won't even be a consideration for Martian matters until they actually have the surplus labor to do things like make books and movies instead of mining/construction/maintenance/breeding.

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Anonymous No. 16517591

https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1869303432982770084
It's over.

Anonymous No. 16517593

>>16517293
>absolute garbage just continues by inertia because "i love representational democracy"

Anonymous No. 16517594

>>16517591
ScamX has been fooling us with inflatables this whole time!

Anonymous No. 16517595

>>16517591
wtf it's an inflatable party rocket

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Anonymous No. 16517600

She is no longer asking ...

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Anonymous No. 16517602

THAT'S IT?!?!

Anonymous No. 16517603

>>16517602
bananas only last a week, so I knew they wouldnt be launching them on the next IFT which isnt until next year.

Anonymous No. 16517604

>>16517602
could have donated 100 tons of bananas instead

Anonymous No. 16517605

>>16517602
Aw. I was hoping to see them dump a bunch of bananas in space.

Anonymous No. 16517606

>>16517602
kek. its over.

Anonymous No. 16517619

>>16517602
Thatā€™s bananas

Anonymous No. 16517621

>>16517619
>When the plantations supply
>Fruit that's dropped in the sky
>That's bananas

Anonymous No. 16517627

>>16517602
There's no banana peeling this

Anonymous No. 16517632

>>16517602
>/sfg/ is wrong
>AGAIN

Anonymous No. 16517634

>>16517632
that's plantains

Anonymous No. 16517666

>>16517602
>THAT'S IT?!?!
That's all it can carry

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Anonymous No. 16517670

https://x.com/dfuji1/status/1869487113269662134
>Earlier today, around 4:00 a.m. on December 19, 2024, a fairly large satellite was seen re-entering the sky above Western Japan. After checking its orbit, it was determined to be the orbital module of China's manned spacecraft, Shenzhou 17, which was launched on October 26, 2023. It continued to orbit the Earth even after the astronauts returned.

Anonymous No. 16517673

>>16517670
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!1

Anonymous No. 16517676

>>16517670
beats it breaking up in orbit I guess

Anonymous No. 16517681

>>16517602
well, thunderf00t was right, turns out starship's max payload capacity is one single banana

Anonymous No. 16517694

stage INSTANTLY!!

Anonymous No. 16517697

STAGING
>>16517696
>>16517696
>>16517696
>>16517696
>>16517696

Anonymous No. 16517767

>>16517307
He's literally a faggot.

Anonymous No. 16517950

>>16517497
Snap, Crackle and Pop

Anonymous No. 16517953

>>16517603
Why would they order bananas for cargo when the next flight is a whole year away? Is Elon Musk stupid?

Anonymous No. 16517954

>>16517621
classy