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Anonymous No. 16517696

holiday cheer - edition
previous >>16515906

Anonymous No. 16517699

spacex is controlled by fungoid zombie overlords confirmed?

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Anonymous No. 16517700

>>16517696
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

Anonymous No. 16517701

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1869541146529329634
Whoever this source is, they just keep hitting bullseyes

Anonymous No. 16517702

>>16517701
Have you considered the possibility that Berger is lying?

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Anonymous No. 16517703

shitters clogged

Anonymous No. 16517704

>>16517703
Orbital caca

Anonymous No. 16517705

Fund rapid replacements (and cancel the current iterations of) MSR & SLS ampersand ISS

Anonymous No. 16517706

>>16517703
the funniest Kessler syndrome

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Anonymous No. 16517710

BANANAS CONFIRMED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Eyhq-D9yM

Anonymous No. 16517713

>>16517702
I know better than to doubt him, by this point

Anonymous No. 16517715

>>16517703
Why do you have to wait 5 days to flush the shitter??

Anonymous No. 16517716

>>16517715
No it holds 5 days worth of piss and shit, it doesnt take 5 days to eject it mister ESL.

Anonymous No. 16517718

>>16517716
>Why do you have to wait 5 days for your crew mates to fill the shitter to flush the shitter??
You're autistic man

Anonymous No. 16517719

>>16517718
Because thats retarded. Fill up the tank and then eject it. Why eject 20 more times than necessary.

Anonymous No. 16517724

>>16517719
Are you Indian by chance?

Anonymous No. 16517726

I would labour unpaid on Mars. Who cares about money so long as basic needs are met. Wealth is gay unless you have giant bags to fund megaprojects and even then it's taken an entire planet of filthy rich fuckheads to produce one (1) rich cunt with some drive to manifest our destiny into reality.

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Anonymous No. 16517730

>>16517703
Why would there be odor build up if it was sealed? Are you saying the seals don't work?

Anonymous No. 16517731

>>16517724
Ouch, brownoid self report right there. You hate to see (and smell) it

Anonymous No. 16517733

>>16517703
Can we not vent poop and pee into orbit please. I don't want my glorious band of shining habitats to be fucking Mumbai.

Anonymous No. 16517735

>>16517733
You do know the shit will deorbit and burn up on reentry right?

Anonymous No. 16517738

>>16517735
No, it won't, at least not in the future. No one is going to be reboosting giant fuck off habitats, they will be in super high orbits and the poo will orbit forever.

Anonymous No. 16517746

>>16517738
When the amount of waste produced by earth-orbiting habs becomes worth worrying about, it won't be directly vented but plastic-sealed and taken by one of the satellites in the debris-management fleet to the MEO trash moon.

Anonymous No. 16517749

why is this thread so poo oriented. do we have poos here now or something? isro has made gains but i dont want to share a general with jeets.

Anonymous No. 16517751

The entire pajeet ethnic group will be placed on the no mars list.

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Anonymous No. 16517758

>>16517703

Anonymous No. 16517761

>>16517751
Cry more westoid

Anonymous No. 16517765

/sfg/ - Shit and Feces General

Anonymous No. 16517771

>>16517761
The great flush is coming soon

Anonymous No. 16517784

>>16517731
>Le no you
How clever

Anonymous No. 16517787

/sfg/ मर चुका है.

Anonymous No. 16517789

>>16517787
The amerisharts are asleep, and our continent is cucked so we never hear news at these hours

Anonymous No. 16517792

>>16517787
>>16517789
Go down the drain pipe you revolting dalit creatures

Anonymous No. 16517794

>>16517789
trust the plan, do not redeem
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/isro-begins-assembly-of-hlvm3-for-gaganyaans-first-uncrewed-flight/article69000707.ece
>ISRO begins assembly of HLVM3 for Gaganyaan’s first uncrewed flight
>The Indian Space Research Organisation on Wednesday (December 18) commenced the assembly of the Human Rated Launch Vehicle Mark-3 (HLVM3) for the Gaganyaan mission’s maiden uncrewed flight.
>The assembly of the HLVM3 is taking place at the Satish Dhawan Space Centre (SDSC) in Sriharikota and the uncrewed flight is expected to take place early next year from the spaceport.
>The Gaganyaan project envisages a demonstration of human spaceflight capability by launching a crew of three members to an orbit of 400 km for a three-day mission and bringing them back safely to Earth by landing in Indian sea waters.
>Under the Gaganyaan programme, ISRO intends to carry out three uncrewed missions and one crewed mission. The un-crewed mission is scheduled to take place in 2024-25, and the first crewed mission is scheduled in 2025-27.

Anonymous No. 16517796

>>16517794
>>16517792
Im talking about Europe, idiots. Must be russoids or leftover burgers to be this stupid

Anonymous No. 16517797

>>16517787
looks like the LOTR language

Anonymous No. 16517799

>>16517797
What does arabic look like to you

Anonymous No. 16517800

>>16517796
European spaceflight is all but dead and there's far too little political will right now to revive it.

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Anonymous No. 16517802

>>16517799
I get an irrational fear seeing Arabic text because I've been conditioned to think "big scary bad people".

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Anonymous No. 16517804

>>16517796
europe who? you must have a crewed space program to post in this general.

Anonymous No. 16517806

>>16517799
Jeet, suicide bomber and kike script are all the same black tongue

Anonymous No. 16517808

>>16517799
Dusty shithole, corruption.

Anonymous No. 16517809

>>16517799
green color
yes, i might have autism, and thus experience synesthesia often

Anonymous No. 16517816

I just read on twitter the ISS is about to rupture exclusively. What did you do?

Anonymous No. 16517818

>>16517816
Yankin it

Anonymous No. 16517820

>>16517816
Good, I will masturbate

Anonymous No. 16517821

>>16517816
WE did it, together my friend
>>16517818
>>16517820
jorkin

Anonymous No. 16517822

https://en.as.com/latest_news/nasa-responds-to-rumours-of-uncontrolled-de-orbit-and-catastrophic-failure-of-iss-n/
>NASA responds to rumours of “uncontrolled de-orbit and catastrophic failure” of ISS
>“FEMA anon here”, the worded message from the 4chan online forum begins. “Posting this before the higher-ups lock everything down. Shits going sideways with the ISS”
the hacker known as 4chan

Anonymous No. 16517824

>>16517816
Some Anon on another board made shit up. The ISS' orbital trajectory times haven't changed at all, and any loss of atmosphere is going to be a thruster, whether they want it or not. No change in time means there's no significant leakage happening.

Anonymous No. 16517825

>>16517824
why would anonymus lie so

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Anonymous No. 16517826

>>16517787
HE REDEEMED?

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Anonymous No. 16517827

>>16517822
Why would FEMA be involved? lol

Anonymous No. 16517829

>>16517822
thank goodness the retard posted this on /pol/ and not here. imagine namedropping esefgee and then the media learning about this place.

Anonymous No. 16517830

>>16517829
Can we just kill the journalists so it's not a problem going forward

Anonymous No. 16517831

>>16517829
If they'd posted it here they probably would have been hit with a 500 word rebuttal, dismissed as a retard, and told to shut the fuck up inside 15 minutes.

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Anonymous No. 16517832

>>16517822
The absolute state of NASA. Why go out of their way to entertain a literal poltard

Anonymous No. 16517833

>>16517830
ai is being trained on these journalists. when they are fired and replaced, it will be exactly the same, except aislop journos cant be killed

Anonymous No. 16517836

>>16517806
>randomly brings up yiddish when it wasnt even mentioned
obsessed

Anonymous No. 16517838

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYN8aekrUP4

Anonymous No. 16517842

>>16517829
>the media learning about this place
hmmmm
>"Extremist group in the far-right website 4chan calls to 'kill all earthers'"
>"The so-called space flight general, or sfg, is riddled with musk supporters and space enthusiasts."
>"These anonymous users express their utmost contempt towards anyone who dares mock the south african billionaire, or oppose his mars vision in any way."
>"Repeated death threats towards government officials, journalists, and even harmless animals, such as beetles and plovers, have been found all over the place."
>"Our reporters have also stumbled upon several mentions of mattresses, so-called 'brilliant pebbles', and pisslocks. We don't really know if these are to be taken literally, or they are supposed to be some kind of white supremacist dogwhistles."
>"'We gaan', a popular phrase, which translated from Dutch means 'we are going', brings back memories of the famous Tenerife airport disaster in 1977. Members of the site have been found repeating this mantra over and over again whenever SpaceX would hit a major milestone. We believe this might allude towards a possible terrorist attack being planned."
>"It is of most urgency that such a place, which is filled with blatant racism, misogyny, bigotry, and xenophobia, be scrutinized and then shut down."
>"We have asked Phil Mason, an expert on spaceflight, who holds a STEM PhD and also happens to be a Youtube celebrity, ranking millions of views on the video platform, for his comment, and to also see if he could explain to us the obscure lingo used in the forum."

Anonymous No. 16517849

the space shuttle shouldn't have been cancelled

Anonymous No. 16517854

>>16517849
Thats great Scobee but we need to get this thing rocking, get your crew on board already

Anonymous No. 16517856

Mars is red
Neptune is blue
Musk is based
Starship is two

Anonymous No. 16517857

>>16517854
No, really.
STS wasn't really even that dangerous post-Columbia
NASA finally started taking safety seriously

Anonymous No. 16517858

>>16517806
They are very much not. Arabic and Hebrew are both Semitic languages, while Hindu is Indo-European. These families are related only hypothetically.

Anonymous No. 16517868

>>16517738
Giant spinhabs will recycle the waste biologically. Poop storage or venting is only a problem for smaller stations and spacecraft.

Anonymous No. 16517872

>>16517857
ULA bragging about friction stir welding makes a lot more sense when you realize how fucking hard it was to reduce the mass of the ET over decades.

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Anonymous No. 16517893

Flight 6 was the most boring Starship flight so far. Flight 7 will be boring too, but at least using V2. It won't be till Flight 8 before we finally get something interesting with Starship catch, which probably means orbit since reentry wont become aligned with the tower otherwise. Perhaps first payload deploy too, I dont see why not.

Flight 9 onward should deploy Starlink v3, unless they want to test full scale prop transfer, but that requires two launches, probably within a month span or shorter. After that, focus will be iterations learned from Starlink launches until they are comfortable with reflight. Booster reflight could happen by mid-2025, and if heatshield iteration occurs quickly a ship may refly by end of 2025. After thinking on it, I expect they will focus on reuse iteration before refueling or even better simultaneously if cadence increases

Anonymous No. 16517897

>>16517893
They will do a permanent depot variant and a prop transfer demo in 2025 as part of the Artemis 3 timeline.

Anonymous No. 16517900

Will the next light test feature Starship going orbital?

Anonymous No. 16517902

>>16517897
A permanent depot isnt part of any architecture until Artemis 5, where did you see that included in the 2025 transfer demo? Unless plans have changed. It comes down to priority anyway, and Spacex cares more about Starship reuse than HLS. Not that they can't work on both, but they have been taking a deliberate gradual path with each flight, with seemingly fewer major variable differences between them

Anonymous No. 16517904

>>16517900
no

Anonymous No. 16517905

>>16517897
>permanent depot variant
Why is it always presented as nothing but a cylinder? A propellant depot needs two important things, power supply and good insulation. That's why in many papers they have a sun shade and solar panels. Does it mean that Starship depot has fuel cells?
Apart from that, if SpaceX wants to make their propellant depots more efficient, they should invest in zero boil-off technology, with reliquefaction plant.

Anonymous No. 16517906

>>16517904
Damn, really? But they already did a relight last time.

Anonymous No. 16517918

>>16517902
having tanker ships refill a prop depot would be easier than having them refill HLS because you don't end up as constrained on needing x launches within some short time period due to orbits not aligning beyond that. Depot allows you to refill whenever is convenient because it would have better anti boil off measures in place. Plus every time you dock and undock is a potential failure, so having the depot as the intermediary buys down some of that risk for HLS as it would only need to do it once instead of 12+ times. If the depot is lost for whatever reason, you can just put a new one up and it delays you by a couple months. Losing HLS would be a much more significant delay

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Anonymous No. 16517919

What if Russia landed on Venus?

Anonymous No. 16517921

>>16517726
Mars will require slavery. We should avoid the mistakes of last time though (America), and only enslave our own people.

Anonymous No. 16517922

>>16517919
They did several times

Anonymous No. 16517923

>>16517804
It is insane to me that fucking India has a bigger space program than the UK. What the fuck happened to Europe, seriously?

Anonymous No. 16517926

>>16517856
>Neptune is blue
Oh, sweet summer child.

Anonymous No. 16517932

>>16517893
>deploy Starlink v3
To which orbit? They can only launch to one orbital inclination from Boca Chica and that is not where starlinks are.

Anonymous No. 16517935

>>16517906
this is a new version of the ship, they will probably just redo the 5 and 6 profile to get comparable data to see how the flaps perform

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Anonymous No. 16517961

spehs

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Anonymous No. 16517969

>>16517696
2024 is basically over, no more launches of CockRocket......how many pounds of cargo did StarShit take to orbit so far? 50 tons? 100 tons? 150 tons!? Spoiler, a banana. We were supposed to be orbiting Mars by 2023.....when is the new date? 2026? 2030? Maybe wait for the Space X IPO for Elon to grift more money. Then maybe, perhaps, one day, Elon will make it to Mars....or not....NO REFUNDS!!!!!

Fucking losers, Elon complains of regulations stopping him. Gets FAA green light, still can't launch until April.....fucking KEK!

But hey, Papa Elon has a huge inflatable space man to wow the man children with Funko Pops where their dicks used to be. I fucking hate you Elon cultists with the fiery passion of 1,000 suns......why? Because you people taint the idea and science of space flight as you Pied Pipper the world down dead end roads and retard the progress of all man kind, like some Vulcan scum. You low IQ midwit clapping seals are literal children with no base intelligence, only compliance and black semen fill your heads.

Elon Musk and all who follow his apostate church of space ARE THE GREAT FILTER that stops us from living in space. When they fail, and they will fail, normies will turn against space and demand no money ever be spent on it again. Elon will trap humans on Earth, possibly forever. I hope you retards enjoy 9.8m/s pulling you down till the day you die. This is the gravity well, your prison for all eternity, the jail guards are your own failures and ego. Tragically ironic. Die slowly staring up at the sky you'll never reach losers, you've earned it.

With love,
SkyHook-Chan

Anonymous No. 16517970

>>16517969
Thats crazy

Anonymous No. 16517972

>>16517746
exactly. free market method of problem solving

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Anonymous No. 16517973

Ooooooofffffffff

Anonymous No. 16517975

>>16517923
Dysgenics + communist subversion + regulatory destruction of industry
Europe doesn't make much anymore, certainly the UK doesn't. Our populations have become dumber on the genetic level due to welfare and other dysgenic practices. The only thing Europe innovates in are regulations!

Anonymous No. 16517976

>>16517969
thats bananas

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Anonymous No. 16517978

>$3 Billion dollars
>People literally only care about a surface photo of the lakes
>Land it in a boring, flat area with no liquids
>Take a single fucking photo
>In portrait orientation
And this why ESA should be banned from planet exploration missions.

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Anonymous No. 16517979

It is a failure.

Anonymous No. 16517982

>>16517970
Yeah

Anonymous No. 16517983

>>16517806
>black tongue
no one has ever dared to utter those words in this place

Anonymous No. 16517984

>Vast announces deal with SpaceX to launch two human spaceflight missions to the International Space Station.


https://x.com/vast/status/1869737994011480120

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Anonymous No. 16517986

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/space-exploration-nasa-trump

>Space scientists are making predictions based on things Trump and his allies have said in the past. Naming Isaacman as his pick to be the next NASA administrator reflects priorities for space exploration that had already been telegraphed during the election: getting boots on the ground of another world, as quickly as possible.

Anonymous No. 16517987

>>16517969
>how many pounds of cargo did StarShit take to orbit so far? 50 tons? 100 tons? 150 tons!?
Gary from the 3 gorges dam collapse general
>how many days has it been at 200 meters? 3 days? a week?

Anonymous No. 16517988

>>16517978
>bbbut it's important science!!!!
Would you pay 3 billion dollars for this mission?
>nnnno
Then it's not important.

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Anonymous No. 16517989

Stephane Israël is gone
replaced by David Cavaillolès

https://newsroom.arianespace.com/arianegroup-and-arianespace-announce-the-departure-of-stephane-israel-ceo-of-arianespace-and-the-appointment-of-his-successor-david-cavailloles?lang=eng

Anonymous No. 16517990

>>16517978
And what's more - NASA's Dragonfly will have the capability to explore much of Titan's surface from an aeriel view and cover hundreds of kilometers over its lifespan. Where are they going to take it? At the equator, again. And it won't be visiting the lakes at all. A once in a lifetime opportunity and they're going to blow it. What a load of shit.

Anonymous No. 16517991

>>16517989
Finally, not that I think it'll matter much but getting the guy with his head in the sand out is a good thing.

Anonymous No. 16517993

>>16517984
so doing the same thing as Axiom? I guess to get used to space station operations

Anonymous No. 16517996

>Bezos, Musk, and Trump had dinner together
Is it happening?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16517999

>>16517969
Cool.

Anonymous No. 16518000

>>16517983
ntma

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Anonymous No. 16518001

>>16517989
>>16517991
c'est fini

Anonymous No. 16518003

>>16518001
Well fuck, Doubt this clown will be much better.

Anonymous No. 16518006

>>16518001
>David CAVAILLOLES, former Inspector of Finance
I have transcended the need for the early life section

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518007

here's your license
>unzips cock

Anonymous No. 16518008

>>16517116
>>16517145
I watched (listened) to this video. The title makes it seem significantly more controversial than it actually is. She ultimately concludes that Mars colonization is unlikely to happen without geopolitical pressure (like the Moon landings), and that while Musk isn't motivated by money to do it, he is heavy overpromising in regards to the timeline of colonization and the amount of people willing to volunteer for it, and will likely struggle to finance it even with his wealth (I disagree here, SpaceX is already making a killing via Starlink). At no point is she personally against colonizing Mars or the current efforts of SpaceX.

Anonymous No. 16518009

>>16518008
This is the conclusion normal anons came to. And of course the Elon Dick Suckers lost their minds over it.

Anonymous No. 16518011

>>16518008
not now = not ever

Anonymous No. 16518013

>>16518008
>>16518009
>She ultimately concludes that Mars colonization is unlikely to happen without geopolitical pressure
And do you retards think it is just a coincidence that Elon is buddied up with Trump, and Trump is now posting about Mars? Elon is playing politics with the goal of creating that geopolitical pressure

Anonymous No. 16518017

>>16518001
Early life check?

Anonymous No. 16518019

>>16518013
Elon is currently orchestrating one of the biggest political fuck ups we've seen, and trump's not even in office yet. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

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Anonymous No. 16518020

It's beyond a joke at this point.

Anonymous No. 16518021

>>16518019
Did you get that opinion from a youtuber?

Anonymous No. 16518028

>>16518021
Yes.... yes.... let the cope flow through you

Anonymous No. 16518036

>>16518013
She talked about that as well. Or rather just mentioned it.

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Anonymous No. 16518038

Old computers used in Apollo missions at 10 minutes 35 seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcNekvIxjTo&t=635s

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Anonymous No. 16518040

>>16518038
oops

Anonymous No. 16518041

>>16518028
yes twitter will fail, just wait
tesla is about to go bankrupt
Starship is a failure
its all coming together

Anonymous No. 16518051

>>16517961
the X-33 was doomed from the start and It's a good thing it didn't go foward

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518058

>>16517696
>>16517093 >>16517095 >>16517098 >>16517100 >>16517105 >>16517106
imagine being such a Musk fanboy bot.
couldn't be me.

Anonymous No. 16518059

>>16518051
its was a bit of a dinosoar anyway

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518060

>>16518058
these too
>>16517118 >>16517171 >>16517187 >>16517341 >>16517347 >>16517425

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518064

fuck you

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518069

>>16518058
>>16518060
back to bluesky tranny

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518071

>>16518058
>>16518060
Here’s your (You) big guy, (You)’ve earned it.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518072

>>16518064
Idiot.

Anonymous No. 16518085

https://x.com/randpaul/status/1869723449377030385

Elon for Speaker
I love this retarded timeline

Anonymous No. 16518090

>>16518085
Elon hasnt got time to be the speaker.

Anonymous No. 16518092

>>16518085
US Govt runs on apathy, unaccountability, and respect of tradition, fewer laws than you'd think. The unelected regulatory state has been doing the work of legislature, which is illegal, and now thankfully determined so by the Supreme Court. Everything is up for interpretation to some extent. If people expect the next 4 years to be ordinary based of precedent, they are in for a rude awakening. God bless

Anonymous No. 16518093

>>16518085
Its hilarious but not serious.

Anonymous No. 16518096

>>16518092
inshallah but no guarantees.

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Anonymous No. 16518097

https://x.com/SpaceIntel101/status/1869763819398144008
>Orbital Launch no. 152 of 2024
>Tianqi-33~36 | Galactic Energy | Sept 05 | 0934 UTC
>Galactic Energy successfully launched Tianqi 33-36 on its Ceres 1S Y4 solid rocket from a sea launch vessel off the coast of Rizhao, Shandong.

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Anonymous No. 16518101

>SpaceX test launches Starship rocket

>SpaceX has test-launched its Starship rocket at the Kennedy Space Centre in Florida.

>Elon Musk's company hopes the spacecraft will be a key tool in the mission to colonise the Moon and Mars.

>Crews practised an in-space manoeuvre in the latest trial, replicating an in-flight start with a single engine.

>The official Flight 7 launch is scheduled for January 11.

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/spacex-test-launches-starship-rocket/video/2197d45af90e97f9ba05a0b32638ff1a

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Anonymous No. 16518104

>>16518101
huh?

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Anonymous No. 16518105

Vast did a thing again.

https://x.com/vast/status/1869783399457849453

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Anonymous No. 16518109

>>16517696
Last night at like 3am i suddenly had the urge to engage in space autism and put a bunch of shit into desmos
So I'm trying to solve the question "how many refueling flights will starship actually need for Artemis?" question once and for all.
To do that, I need estimates for several values that seem realistic:

>s+p
whats a good estimate for the dry mass of the lunar starship variant?
On the one hand we can ditch the flaps and heat shield, on the other we need landing legs, life support systems etc.
So Im currently going with an even 100t for the lunar starship + another 50 tons of payload, for a total dry-mass of 150 tons. (p + s)

>m
second problem is, how much payload of fuel can we get from earth to LEO in specialized tanker starships?
I'm currently going with 100t which is a conservative estimate IMO

>i
wikipedia says 380s for raptor vac, added the slider because just 1s of isp more or less can make or break a flight

>z
so how much delta-v do we actually need to get to the moon? map in pic related claims 8.2km/s if you "perfectly" utilize aerobreaking, hence saving a good chunk of req delta v to get back to earth.
its 11.32 km/s if you don't use any aerobreaking at all to get back to LEO.
The current path is
>LEO -> GTO -> MT -> C/E ->LLO -> LS ->LLO -> C/E -> MT
Now, how much of the 2.44 and 0.68 km/s to get back to Earth from Moon-Earth Transfer do we actually need? 5%, 10?

>t
I think block 2 is larger, so more fuel possible? currently 1500t bc wikipedia


With a fully fueled Lunar starship, Artemis mission is obviously possible, see pic related and would even using very conservative/pessimistic estimates require a maximum of 15 flights,
Question is, how low can I push that number, how should I tweak the individual variables?

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/l7dyo20fdp?lang=de

Anonymous No. 16518111

>>16518109
Learn Matlab please

Anonymous No. 16518113

>>16518111
>>16518109
Also do this for New Glenn kek

Anonymous No. 16518114

>>16518113
blue moon will need fewer refueling (and reoxidizering) flights because BO is going to mass autism the shit out of it.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518116

>>16518007
sorry she swings another way

Anonymous No. 16518117

>>16518111
Not even Matlab, Octave is free

Anonymous No. 16518118

>>16518111
is mathlab fun? complicated?
I'm assuming since I actually enjoy playing around with stuff like this I'd be able to figure it out?

>>16518113
The math shouldn't change and all the sliders are there, so this one should work for New Glenn too.
just need to look up Blue origins stated values for their engines ISP and dry and wet mass of New Glenn n stuff, gimme a moment.

>>16518117
so mathlab costs money, and octave does the same shit but free?

Anonymous No. 16518119

Anyone watch a launch out of Vandenberg before? How close is the viewing area compared to KSC?

Anonymous No. 16518120

https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Ariane/Second_Ariane_6_at_Europe_s_Spaceport
>Second Ariane 6 at Europe’s Spaceport

Anonymous No. 16518121

>>16517703
how the fuck do we avoid kessler syndrome with indian stations launching shit everywhere in 10 years time?
Designated shitting orbits?

Anonymous No. 16518122

>>16518104
Based on the video it seems these dumbasses thought falcon 9 was starship.

Anonymous No. 16518123

https://x.com/SCRD_Rocketry/status/1869514832355131578

Anonymous No. 16518124

>>16518121
Atmospheric drag + vacuum suction to break it apart

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518126

>>16518121
>Designated shitting orbits?
kek, the future is brown

Anonymous No. 16518127

>>16517703
Could they be using vacuum drying process to remove moisture/water from the waste and then oven baking the waste to reduce them to carbon ash and then letting the ashes be sucked out via vacuum?

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518128

>>16518116
rocketgirl yuri? Fine with me.

Anonymous No. 16518131

>Indians launch shit all over space
>The bacteria adapts to various space environments
>The universe is seeded with life by jeets
Now I wonder if God is the jeet of the heavens.

Anonymous No. 16518136

>>16518118
Its coding but to do math.

Anonymous No. 16518141

>>16518123
that’s pretty cool. I wish them the best of luck with their spaceshot.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518144

>>16518116
irrelevant

Anonymous No. 16518145

maybe NG static fire today?

Anonymous No. 16518147

>>16518102
cute girl on rocket

Anonymous No. 16518153

That Chiquita mommy was quite hot, I have to admit

Anonymous No. 16518157

>>16518145
Maybe you'll get a job today?

Anonymous No. 16518160

Why did anybody clown the creation of the Space Force? Its an obvious thing that needed to happen. I remember a few anons in here making fun of it when the news dropped.

Anonymous No. 16518161

>>16518157
Leave him alone

Anonymous No. 16518163

>>16518113
p = 1 ton
s = 4 tons (that seems really low for the dry ship mass desu, but chatgpt said so?)
m = 29 tons (which again seems really low, but idk?)
f = 1 (because tank capacity t is 29 tons apparently?)
i = 445s BE-3U vac engine, finally something where I can get the info
z = 0.05 just as starship calculation
t = 29 tons, (again dubious source)
all those values seem incredibly low, while it doesn't need any refueling flights, as New Glenn LEO cap is 45 tons, while the total weight of the vehicle including payload is only 34 or 35 tons, at least according to chatgpt, I couldn't actually find any data on that anywhere else, tho I could probably make some guesstimates based on the thrust and amount of engines.
So can New Glenn moon mission only send like 2 tons to the Moon or something? the fck is going on?

Even if I adjust the values optimistically and add the missing 10 tons of fuel to fully use the launch capability of the New Glenn, I can only get like 5 tons of payload to lunar surface and back to earth.

Anonymous No. 16518164

>>16518160
because orange man bad

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Anonymous No. 16518167

>A planet must have cleared the area its orbit
Daily reminder that J*piter is NOT a planet

Anonymous No. 16518170

>>16518167
but the moon is. go figure

Anonymous No. 16518171

>>16518157
no chance.

Anonymous No. 16518173

>>16518127
>sucked out via vacuum
>sucked
no

Anonymous No. 16518176

>>16518160
Because it does nothing

Anonymous No. 16518177

>>16518167
Plutojew detected. PWNBAP

Anonymous No. 16518179

>>16518160
Because Trump

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Anonymous No. 16518180

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1869804191394443660

New Glenn hotfire today (maybe)

Anonymous No. 16518181

>>16518180
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/12/blue-origin-may-hot-fire-its-new-glenn-rocket-as-soon-as-today/
>Theoretically, at least, it remains possible that Blue Origin could launch New Glenn this year—and the company's urgency certainly speaks to this. On social media this week, some Blue Origin employees noted that they were being asked to work on Christmas Day this year in Florida.
>About 10 days ago, the company said its rocket would be ready for a launch this year. New Glenn will be carrying a prototype of the "Blue Ring" space vehicle, which provides power and propulsion to payloads for deployment beyond where they are dropped off by the rocket. However, as of Thursday, it's unclear whether Blue Origin has obtained final regulatory approval for a launch from the Federal Aviation Administration.

Anonymous No. 16518182

>>16518160
Because it's just the rebrabded gayest part of the Air Force instead of starting fresh with orbital drop shock troops, torch drives, and radiant rocks

Anonymous No. 16518183

>>16518180
>may
Too used to being disappointed by this company.

Anonymous No. 16518186

>>16518180
Oi! do they got a loicense for that hotfire?

Anonymous No. 16518189

>>16518182
>its bad because it doesnt fund my favorite slop scifi bullshit that in reality would be retarded wastes of money or impossible
Nice

Anonymous No. 16518192

>>16518189
instead it's just a bunch of nerds in cubicles doing nothing

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Anonymous No. 16518197

>>16518180
ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16518198

>>16518180
Why is Blue so tight lipped? They dont share any details and havent shared anything for the past 10 years

Anonymous No. 16518199

>>16518198
Results over rhetoric ;)

Anonymous No. 16518202

>>16518160
There was a pervasive mindset in the USAF that space assets were for supporting USAF actions rather than treating space as its own domain.

Anonymous No. 16518204

>>16518202
The USAF was also institutionally captured by oldspace who were more than happy to be fat and lazy.

Anonymous No. 16518206

>>16518127
>baking shit
The smell would permeate the metal itself

Anonymous No. 16518207

>>16517919
That would imply a very different physical universe, so they won't.

Anonymous No. 16518208

>>16518127
What a complete waste of time and energy. This is a post mass autism world. Just send up more fresh water.
I will not drink the shit water.

Anonymous No. 16518209

>>16518180
>>16518197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm8wRjD3xVA

Anonymous No. 16518212

>>16518160
Because it should have been the space Corp with navy ranks not faggot ass air force ranks.

Anonymous No. 16518213

>>16518167
Jupiter is the king of the Solar System.

You will bow down to the United Jovian Empire in due time.

Anonymous No. 16518214

>>16518206
Vacuum drying removes all the smell, break down the bacterias, etc. You can even do the vacuum experiment on earth

Anonymous No. 16518217

This 97-year old general still serves its space fantasies the old fashioned way

Anonymous No. 16518220

>>16518167
depends what the meaning of the world "cleared" is.
More precisely it is said to "dominate all the mass of its orbit", which it does by being more than 50% and then some. Pluto isnt even the most massive object in its orbit let alone gravitationally dominant.

Anonymous No. 16518223

someone said something on a speaker system

Anonymous No. 16518228

Why the fuck doesn't BO say anything about anything? Bezos is such a fucking weirdo.

Anonymous No. 16518239

>>16518197
Bluesky link?

Anonymous No. 16518245

>>16518228
its his rocket, its none of your business. now get back to work, pleb.

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Anonymous No. 16518251

are boson stars real?

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>>16518251
haha they have a funni shape

Anonymous No. 16518258

>>16518245
If he wants public hype for his rogget then he's got to show us something to get hype about.

Anonymous No. 16518261

>>16518153
kek

Anonymous No. 16518264

I don't care about this. When Flight 7?

Anonymous No. 16518265

>>16518264
January 11th

Anonymous No. 16518267

>>16518264
Two more weeks

Anonymous No. 16518268

>>16518265
That's too far away.

Make it happen before Christmas.

Anonymous No. 16518270

Why is Berger shilling for New Glenn?

Anonymous No. 16518271

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16518273

>>16518268
Do not launch until Christmas

Anonymous No. 16518274

>>16518239
You might be confusing Bezos for Bruno.

Tory made a fool of himself on twitter and tried to blame Elon.

Anonymous No. 16518275

>>16518271
Stop crying

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Anonymous No. 16518277

Hello, old friend.

Anonymous No. 16518280

Ok, then how did Starship go from paper to launch pad so fast?

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Anonymous No. 16518282

>>16518277
Something poinant

Anonymous No. 16518283

>>16518270
Yeah why would the rocket reporter want the second best rocket to become operational? Why isn’t he happy with the best and no others?

Anonymous No. 16518284

>>16518283
You mean 3rd or 4th best? The best is reserved for F9. 2nd best will be Starship. 3rd best maybe vulcan. 4th best maybe New Glenn.

Anonymous No. 16518291

>>16518284
Falcon is only the best because none of the better ones are operational yet. and in what world is vulcan better than nooglin?

Anonymous No. 16518295

>>16518291
None of the better ones will beat F9 operations/capacity for another 2-3 years, thats Starship I'm talking about. For non-Starship, they wont be beating F9, EVER.

Anonymous No. 16518297

>>16518291
~180 falcon launches 2025 is the goal. Not a single rocket in sight will match that for the next 5-10 years, or ever in the case of non-SpaceX rockets

Anonymous No. 16518298

>>16518291
Nobody says nooglin except twitter trannies. Go the fuck back right now youre probably one of those kiked anime pfp niggers or the furfag

Anonymous No. 16518303

Eject spitter troons via airlock

Anonymous No. 16518305

>>16518295
>>16518297
NG lifts 45 tons in one go. It can launch less than half as often as falcon and still beat its upmass.
>>16518298
I’m sorry anon but you are incorrect. I only use X insofar as I click the links posted here and I learned the term from this general.

Anonymous No. 16518306

>>16518303
That's too merciful

Anonymous No. 16518309

>>16517842
kek

Anonymous No. 16518311

>>16518305
>NG lifts 45 tons in one go
lets see

Anonymous No. 16518312

No static fire for New Glenn today

Anonymous No. 16518313

>>16518305
Lying through your teeth is a common jewish tactic. So youre either the canuck or the yuro

Anonymous No. 16518318

Blue Origin has no possibility of making enough 2nd stages to launch 100 times a year

Anonymous No. 16518320

>>16518284
>>16518283
I would have disputed putting Vulcan ahead of Glenn until we learned of the ~20 ton payload loss for Glenn. It isn't so clear cut now.

Anonymous No. 16518324

>>16518320
>GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK
>I LOVE TORY BRUNOS NUT
Fucking phony pulling up BS claims of NG losing payload, get your source or gtfo fucking ULA cock sucker

Anonymous No. 16518326

>>16518324
Are you okay anon? That was quite a strong reaction.

Anonymous No. 16518330

>>16518280
SpaceX is the 1. preferred workplace for new engineers and they are expected to work insane hours + they have Musk
Musk has an almost unprecedented combo of intelligence * hard work * determination * risk taking over decades
if you assume those traits are mostly uncorrelated, then its very rare for a person to have a combo of these traits
for instance if you just look at intelligence, even if you look at people with 3 standard deviations over the mean (145), then that is 0.15% of the population
assuming the population is the "west" is around 1 bil, 0.15% of that is still 1.5 million people, not that rare
but take 4 uncorrelated traits that each in the top 1% (so someone with an IQ of like 135) and multiply them together and you have 100 of these people in a population of 1 billion
so I think it has to be some combo of traits like that for Musk, its not just intelligence

Anonymous No. 16518334

>>16518280
Dont forget 2 years of FAA delay too on their EIS paperwork nonsense.

Anonymous No. 16518338

BO was also mismanaged for much of its life, the new (competent) CEO has been there like less than a year? so it takes time change things and make the organization more effective

Anonymous No. 16518375

>>16518330
>dood elon musk is CRAZY and INSANE and A GENIUS
he had nothing to do with making the raptor engines

Anonymous No. 16518377

>>16518375
yes its a coincidence

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Anonymous No. 16518378

>Elon Musk has been denied a top secret government security clearance due to his contact with foreign nationals
kek
So the only place Elon can freely move about in his own company is the parking lot, the cafeteria and the offices

Anonymous No. 16518379

>>16518377
grimes is the actual brain behind spacex

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Anonymous No. 16518382

Anyone else fascinated by Perseverance photos, or am I the only one? I know it's just rocks, but it's more than that for me. It's a world with totally different characteristics - a white-brown sky, a distant sun, orange sand, lower gravity. A world totally barren, waiting for us to make our mark on it, and we are looking at it right now, in HD. I wish everyone else was as autistic as me.
https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/figures/PIA26378_figD.png

Anonymous No. 16518384

>>16518382
that picture could easily be taken in arizona

Anonymous No. 16518385

>>16518384
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16518386

>>16518384
it is from arizona, I took it

Anonymous No. 16518387

>>16518378
The foreign nationals is just a matter of reporting that you met with them. The drug part sounds very pretty but he toked in front of everyone because mr dmt weed lord offered. lmao
As far I understand even talking to Putin or Xi shouldn't void your security clearance if you adhere to the protocols.

Anonymous No. 16518389

>>16518001
>Sustainability
Guess they'll ban themselves from rocketry

Anonymous No. 16518390

>>16518387
its the last desperate attempt of obstruction with accompanied FUD articles to go with it

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Anonymous No. 16518391

>>16517842
my sides have left the solar system

Anonymous No. 16518401

how many launches a year does BO need to be profitable
50?

Anonymous No. 16518409

>>16518330
>intelligence * hard work * determination * risk taking over decades
Throw in multipliers for opportunity and ability. If Musk were born in an Indian slum and got run over by a car when he was 10 he never would have been able to accomplish any of this.

Anonymous No. 16518411

>>16517842
>"We have asked Phil Mason, an expert on spaceflight, who holds a STEM PhD
I mean, this isn't unrealistic at all lol, considering that CNBC asked fucking ESGHound for his comment some time ago, while also citing his "findings" on regulatory bullshit.

Anonymous No. 16518420

>>16518411
Apparently he released a new video complaining about SpaceX again but I'm not going to bother watching, much less linking to it, but I'm sure someone will be unable to resist doing so.

Anonymous No. 16518423

>>16518420
>I'm not going to bother watching
don't worry, mainstream journalists will do it for you

Anonymous No. 16518427

>>16518423
*obsolete hacks

Anonymous No. 16518429

>>16517919
Wow, the ai did a good job of making them look russian, though that doesn't look like venus

Anonymous No. 16518430

https://x.com/ProfBrianCox/status/1869794673000362066

Neat. We can now theoretically detect if anyone is using warp drives even if they're in another galaxy way out there. The signal would be so strong even for someone going 10% speed of light

Anonymous No. 16518432

>>16518008
>>16518009
if you delay it indefinitely into the future it will simply never happen. either it happens now, or never at all.

Anonymous No. 16518436

>>16518430
Is Brian Cox based?

Anonymous No. 16518437

>>16518384
i live in arizona and i've been to every part of the state. no, it could not have been

Anonymous No. 16518438

>>16518430
One step closer to finding my Vulcan wife

Anonymous No. 16518450

>>16518436
No he has EDS

Anonymous No. 16518451

https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1869865193171497454

Anonymous No. 16518453

>>16518451
Not spaceflight fuck off

Anonymous No. 16518465

>>16518270
Because SpaceX needs competition

Anonymous No. 16518472

https://www.universetoday.com/169993/advanced-civilizations-could-be-indistinguishable-from-nature/
>Environmentalism is also a Great Filter

Anonymous No. 16518473

>>16518451
such a disgusting libtard

Anonymous No. 16518474

>>16518324
Who are you quoting?

Anonymous No. 16518477

We're going to "colonize Mars," yet we can't even bring back stuck astronauts from orbit. It must be so stinky on the ISS, I wonder if the MIR smelled clean as fresh alcohol wipes. heh

Anonymous No. 16518478

>>16518477
Fuck off, UKfag.

Anonymous No. 16518479

>>16518477
Dragon was not planned for the flight cadence it has to sustain due to Boeing's failures. They have to build a new one.

Anonymous No. 16518482

>>16518430
it's impossible to detect gravity waves at that high of frequency

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Anonymous No. 16518485

https://x.com/ripplebrain/status/1869791929761968585
https://www.amerikanets.com/p/yuzhmash-and-oreshnik-demystified
Someone bought a bunch of commercial satellite imagery and broke down the results of the Russian Oreshnik strike on Yuzhmash a month ago

>I believe these images confirm Ted Postol’s assessment that the Oreshnik’s kinetic projectiles deliver the approximate energy of a 250kg bomb, though the nature of this energy is different. The projectiles are moving so quickly that they punch a hole through most anything until they hit the ground. When we see severe enough roof failure to get a good look at the damage, we see an impact crater 100ft in diameter and a lot of dirt. This implies that the projectile is penetrating into or through the foundation of the building. These structures were built by the Soviets and are extremely tough, so if the projectiles are capable of punching through them and reaching earth (or pulverizing the foundations enough that they look like earth), they’re delivering a lot of energy.
>The Russians have solved the problem of how to cost-effectively attack dispersed targets with a ballistic missile. That doesn’t make it an all-powerful doomsday device, and it would likely take many Oreshniks to render a large facility like an air base (or Yuzhmash) completely inoperable. But the Russians do have the capability to mass produce them, and have openly stated their intent to do so, which makes the system a potential strategic game changer.

Anonymous No. 16518487

>>16518485
>The Russians have solved the problem of how to cost-effectively attack dispersed targets with a ballistic missile.
lol, lmao. This is even more wishful than the years old thinking that SpaceX's tank production was so cheap that they'd displace the commodity storage tank market.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518493

CHECK it out!
https://www.youtube.com/live/JQqjghKuUMc
Miss Piggy is BACK on Off Nominal podcast today, a valued guest with lots to say

Anonymous No. 16518495

>>16517923
Regulations and beyond extreme elvels of underfunding, and due to how ESA works with that one stupid rule about nation maximum input or something

Anonymous No. 16518497

>>16517893
Around Q2 of 2025 (May), the ship to ship test should happen, according to NASA timeline

Anonymous No. 16518500

>>16518485
>have openly stated their intent to do so
As if the russian's saying they're going to do something counts for anything, where are the T-14's or the su-57 squadrons.
>makes the system a potential strategic game changer
It's just an IRBM with a MIRV payload, he's pulling the "cost effective" bit out of his own arse.

Anonymous No. 16518501

>>16517990
It could possibly visit the lakes if they can have connection there, power shouldnt be an issue since it has a RTG as power source

Anonymous No. 16518508

>>16518280
Elon has enough know-how to tell when his employees are fucking about, unlike the probable usual chief that just looks at the funny drawing from the engineering and signs on them

Anonymous No. 16518512

>>16518430
spoilers, we won't.

Anonymous No. 16518515

>>16518128
Make the left appear nervously sweating, and replace the right with a muscular steel man.

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>>16518479
Yes, it is literally Boing's fault that the next crew launch is delayed. They were supposed to do half of the ISS crew launches, and so far they've only gotten as far as their first crewed launch, and screwed that pooch.
SpaceX planed for a certain number of Dragon capsules to launch, and didn't expect to need to build more. But since they've been covering Boing's missed launches, they needed a new Crew Dragon, and it's running late.
If Starliner had actually been doing its job, SpaceX wouldn't have to be making an extra capsule to rescue Boing's incomplete mission.

Anonymous No. 16518521

>>16518436
Lol no

Anonymous No. 16518523

umm SFaGbros... candace just exposed us...

Anonymous No. 16518525

>>16518485
lmao. pure zigger propaganda.

>load your shitty rockets full of conventional warheads and call it a new ICBM
>the ballistic trajectory imparts massive kinetic energy to your garbage bombs, so even when they fail to go off they still launch tons of dirt into the air
>Claim that the structures that you hit were PVRE SOVIET CONCRETE and thus 1000x stronger than anything else
>wrap things up by saying you can produce these rockets simply, cheaply, and basically the west should surrender right now!!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16518537

Thank to Elon, we have no longer a working government right now, so Starship will never fly again.

Anonymous No. 16518541

>>16518537
They are now calling him President Musk

Anonymous No. 16518543

>>16518537
correct

Anonymous No. 16518549

>>16518537
>Implying we had a working government
Good one! I've got one for you too:
>Op is heterosexual

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518551

>>16518541
Oh man Trump isn't gonna like that one.
Is it over for Ol' Musky?

Anonymous No. 16518560

>>16518551
Trump and Elon are aligned on the bill.

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Anonymous No. 16518562

Talk about space not politics, mongoloids. Alternatively, >>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16518578

>>16518485
hey that guy is my friend, all the eurofaggots strawmanning him here can fuck right off

Anonymous No. 16518601

https://news.mynavi.jp/techplus/article/20241219-3089718/
>I wrote an article about the failure of the Kairos 2 launch. President Toyoda was positive this time as well, but the failure of the RTF for the 2nd launch is a big blow to the company. Depending on the cause of this failure, the launch of the 3rd launch may be significantly delayed.

>Although the flight conditions were clearly not normal, the sequence continued, with the first stage separating in approximately 141 seconds (planned to be 148 seconds), the second stage igniting in approximately 142 seconds, and the fairing separating in approximately 168 seconds (planned to be 148 seconds). 175 seconds). However, the aircraft's autonomous flight safety system interrupted the flight at approximately 187 seconds, as the aircraft was about to exceed the preset flight range.
>Although it was not a normal flight the aircraft was able to reach the end of its first stage combustion and achieved a maximum altitude of 110.7 km. Although the mission of placing the satellite into orbit could not be accomplished it was able to reach outer space.
>At a press conference after the launch the company's director Mamoru Endo explained the problems that occurred during this flight. However, all we know at this point is that, "an abnormality occurred in the nozzle drive control." The specifications of Kairos have not been made public, but according to Director Endo this TVC uses an electric actuator. In addition, TVC allows pitch control and yaw control but roll control cannot be performed if it is a type with only one nozzle in the center like Kairos. The Epsilon rocket, which has a similar configuration, is equipped with a side jet for roll control. According to Director Endo, the first stage of the Kairos does not have a jet and does not perform roll control.

Anonymous No. 16518602

>>16518109
>how much payload of fuel can we get from earth to LEO in specialized tanker starships?
The entire volume of Starship can be used for propellant.

Anonymous No. 16518604

Jesus fuck like all of the 8 complaints elon had about the first spending bill were literally all lies. he was straight up believing garbage about it from libs of tic toc. Goddamn

work for me next week is going to be a shitshow, even though I'm on a nasa gov contract that is still funded

Anonymous No. 16518612

>>16518604
>work for me next week is going to be a shitshow
Yeah, you deserve it, you fucking leech.

Anonymous No. 16518613

>>16518604
Elon is playing 4d chess, with Mars in mind as an end-goal
You wouldn’t get it

Anonymous No. 16518615

>>16518604
You mean tic tac?

Anonymous No. 16518620

>>16518604
>all of the 8 complaints elon had about the first spending bill were literally all lies
I doubt it, you're probably just wrong in your worldview.

Anonymous No. 16518634

>>16518523
MOOOM PHINEAS AND FERB ARE MAKING A ROCKET COMPANY IN THE BACKYARD

Anonymous No. 16518636

>>16518604
I don't care, defund the entire government and fire your ass

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Anonymous No. 16518638

We need Big Fucking Modules again. None of this post Shuttle cuck can nonsense.

>>16518604
t. believes CNN like some dumb earther

Anonymous No. 16518643

>>16518601
Budget rocket, I doubt it will fly again

Anonymous No. 16518645

>>16518604
>literally all lies
So? It accomplishes the task

Anonymous No. 16518653

>Starship Flight 7 is TBD now after Musk shutdown our government
It's fucking over, the next 4 year will be disaster.

Anonymous No. 16518654

>>16518653
FAA already approved the license though

Anonymous No. 16518658

They should send musk and Trump up in a starship and leave them up there to see how long it takes before they are butt fucking one another. I would put money on one month.

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Anonymous No. 16518660

>>16518658

Anonymous No. 16518661

You will never be a Martian musktrannies

Anonymous No. 16518664

>>16518654
You still need FAA and other agencies issues NOTAM and NtoM before flight.

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Anonymous No. 16518667

>Gateway - HALO Static Test Complete. Location: Turin, Italy Date: July 9, 2024 Photo Credit: Thales Alenia Space
https://images.nasa.gov/details/jsc2024e055360

Anonymous No. 16518671

>>16518604
At this point I no longer care. Anything to weaken the government is good.

Anonymous No. 16518676

>>16518604
Get a better world model, yours doesn't work

Anonymous No. 16518707

so uhhh what was that nuglenn test about?

Anonymous No. 16518709

>>16518667
Gonna be neat seeing people in this eventually after seeing it like this. Yknow, assuming.

Anonymous No. 16518711

latest news from chinese space:
-First CZ-8 launch from Hainan commercial pad #1 carrying qianfanis postponned, likely to January.
-Lijian-1 next week may be delayed a bit to early january.
-70 launches this year is not possible anymore
-2 suborbital hopper launches announced from Haiyang spaceport in January, one (Space Epoch's) will have a controlled splashdown after a mid-altitude flight, other (CASC's) will likely land on a barge after a flight profile simulation at 75km altitude.

Anonymous No. 16518714

>>16518707
Aborted static fire. From good source.

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Anonymous No. 16518715

>>16518714
BObros...

Anonymous No. 16518720

>>16518707
nothing apparently

Anonymous No. 16518722

>>16518661
Just try and get in our way crab

Anonymous No. 16518725

>>16518251
I honestly don't even know if black holes are real. Modern science is gay, more concerned with protecting its own theories rather than actually seeking truth. There's clearly shit wrong with the Lambda model but nobody is willing to question anything. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if plasma cosmology is right on a few things. Don't even really know if the CMB is an actual black body or just something we don't understand, especially since we filter the image to match what we want it to be, so we could be fucking it up just to reinforce said theories that are probably wrong.

tll;dr science is gay.

Anonymous No. 16518727

>>16518653
just launch anyway, best part is no part, best government is no government, simple as

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Anonymous No. 16518728

Why don't we have Epstein style torch drives yet /sfg/? What the fuck?

https://www.jspf.or.jp/JPFRS/PDF/Vol8/jpfrs2009_08-1602.pdf

Anonymous No. 16518735

>>16518429
It looks a bit like the venera images.

Anonymous No. 16518737

>>16518728
Cooling is a really big problem when your exhaust is a nuclear fireball and inducing said nuclear explosion via fusion is really, really hard. Just build project orion, the nuke numbers are actually kind of reasonable. Project orion is basically a fusion drive anyway.

>elon unfucks government and builds a massive project orion fleet

please lord I don't ask for much, but this....

Anonymous No. 16518741

>>16518438
Same, except for me it's my Eldar wife

Anonymous No. 16518743

>>16518728
1. laser fusion is really hard
2. we can't build 12m wide circles in space yet
3. the epstein drive was a lot more advanced than the one in that paper, more like this:

https://toughsf.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-expanses-epstein-drive.html

Anonymous No. 16518745

>>16518743
I like that site but something tells me that guys numbers are way off on almost everything he comes up with.

Anonymous No. 16518747

>>16518745
they are admittedly generous "yeah this might work" numbers for SF authors rather than engineering docs

Anonymous No. 16518752

It would be reasonable, if regs didnt get in the way, to construct SSTO nuclear spaceplanes from TRISO based reactors. TRISO fuel cant melt down and its safe enough that you could literally crash it and scatter it everywhere and little kids could eat it and poop out the triso pellets with zero cancer risk.

Triso reactor -> helium loop turboramjet -> scramjet -> once in upper atmosphere shutdown scramjets and use high thrust plasma drives. Chemical rockets wont cut it for power output without this rube goldberg bullshit spacex is trying.

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Anonymous No. 16518756

>>16518752
There's this idea that I've never heard of before and have absolutely no idea what the fuck it even is but supposedly it's a fusion design for surface to orbit. It's called a reciprocating fusion engine.

https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist3.php

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268482356_Earth_to_Orbit_based_on_a_Reciprocating_Plasma_Liner_Compression_of_Fusion_Plasmoids

Anonymous No. 16518759

>>16518743
>1. laser fusion is really hard
Admittedly the only real problem
>2. we can't build 12m wide circles in space yet
I don't think that's really an issue in regards to "is it possible or not" but rather just a logistical issue that can be fixed. So more of a money issue than anything else.
>3. the epstein drive was a lot more advanced than the one in that paper, more like this
This design gives you something that isn't far off from what the Epstein drive could do in the expanse.

>>16518737
>Cooling issue
The pellet gets detonated 200-300 meters away from the ship and given the design of the pellet, most of the nasty radiation gets blown away from the ship reducing shielding requirements and the need to radiate the heat away.

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Anonymous No. 16518760

Why don't spaceplanes bounce off the atmosphere to reduce speed before making their reentry so that heatshields don't have to be literally the biggest fucking bitch to deal with?

Anonymous No. 16518763

>>16518756
>projectrho
Boomer brainmelt. Avoid at all costs.

Anonymous No. 16518765

>>16518760
play ksp and you'll realize why this won't work

Anonymous No. 16518770

>>16518760
This would work, but it's "too hard"
People unironically say this when Boeing is achieving this with their space plane right now

Anonymous No. 16518771

>>16518765
I literally do this in KSP tho. Keep pitching up until you start gaining altitude at like 30km. If you're too high, then you pitch down because reentry heating doesn't matter in game.

Anonymous No. 16518777

>>16518760
They do, skip entry is still pretty spicy.

>>16518756
John Slough has been working with plasma physics since the 90s. He also invented the plasma magnet sail and the ELF thruster and is now working with Helion Energy. His designs are very theoretically cool but never seem to get out of the lab.

Anonymous No. 16518779

>>16518777
I still don't understand how the reciprocating drive is supposed to work, especially in regards to how it's supposed to also be used for launch vehicles in atmosphere.

Anonymous No. 16518780

>>16518760
space is hard is why

Anonymous No. 16518784

>>16518777
>His designs are very theoretically cool but never seem to get out of the lab.
I know what you mean. This makes me feel like he's a sort of grifter, intentional or not.
Greason is a second-degree grifter, making a living grifting off Slough's old ideas.

Anonymous No. 16518785

>>16518728
BELTA BLASTA

Anonymous No. 16518789

/x/ here, Germatria for "SpaceX", a very powerful reading.

Gold rush
Ancestors
Gentrification
Summit
Polonium
Bitcoin Bandits
Simulated
The Big short
Math code god is here
ELON MUSK DEAD
APOTHEOSIS
GOD ELON THRONE

woah

Anonymous No. 16518791

I don't think you realise just how mathematically rare it is that you get MULTIPLE SPECIFIC PERSON MENTIONS LIKE THAT

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Anonymous No. 16518794

>>16518789
>GOD ELON THRONE
GOOLDEN THRONE

Anonymous No. 16518798

>>16518794
i thought elon was supposed to be fabricator-general?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RisrZ4wC064
i think he is fine with god emperor though

Anonymous No. 16518803

>>16518714
Can they do ANYTHING right?

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Anonymous No. 16518805

MARS IS ETERNAL. WE SHALL MAKE THE OCEANS RISE AND THE SKY BREATHE. WE SHALL TURN THE VALLEYS GREEN AND OUR CHILDREN SHALL SING.

MARS IS ETERNAL

Anonymous No. 16518837

/sfg/ јe мpтaв.

Anonymous No. 16518838

>>16518837
Burger. Sleep. Yurop. Dead. Simple.

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Anonymous No. 16518841

>>16518838
Fine. Guess these are Chinese and Indian hours.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518850

President Elon Musk.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518852

>>16518850
All hail Musk

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518855

>>16518850
he's gonna disrupt the government industry now

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518871

1 r4p3d 4 c47 4nd un4l1v3d 17

Anonymous No. 16518874

>>16518756
I don't have access to the full paper but based on my knowledge of Slough's other designs it looks like it's basically a fusion equivalent of a turbofan, using a field-reversed plasma to create fusion pulses (like an ELF thruster turned up to fusion temperatures) and then drawing air through the engine to heat and boost thrust. I'm not sure what makes it reciprocating.

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Anonymous No. 16518875

>>16518109
>wikipedia says 380s for raptor vac, added the slider because just 1s of isp more or less can make or break a flight

You do realise that sea levels have to be used for every in-space burn for gimballing (+ throttling reducing ISP) which drops average ISP to 350-360s. I don't like that delta v chart, use NASA's one; it has issues to discuss, but it's more broadly useful then the numbers you've got going on.

>>16518163
>s = 4 tons (that seems really low for the dry ship mass desu, but chatgpt said so?)

Holy shit you fucking moron don't use fucking chatgpt as your source for dry/wet mass numbers. Writing aid or pointing in right direction is fine, but the whole problem of hallucinating stuff is awful for specific numbers. There is a 16 ton dry mass number on wikipedia (which is from Blue) and took me 5 seconds to find. It'll launch with as much propellant as possible to LEO on New Glenn, but not fully fueled. You can figure out wet mass by deriving it from the delta v requirements of NRHO->Lunar surface->NRHO.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518877

Musklet will get shot if he keeps interfering in state business without being an elected official.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518879

>>16518877
the days of congress operating in the dark doing what they please is over

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518880

>>16518877
Your threat has been forwarded to the FBI. Thanks

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518883

>>16518877
Literally the only thing he did was point out the contents of a bill and offer to fund the campaigns of people who could do a better job in Congress. Both of these are not just lawful, but Constitutionally protected actions. If they tried doing their jobs instead of loading bills with frivolous waste instead, Elon wouldn't have any ammo to use against them.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518890

>>16518493
I would fuck her in the nose. God what a fat boar

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Anonymous No. 16518894

if you live in europe, kill your government officials

Anonymous No. 16518903

>>16518894
>kill your government officials
ftfy

Anonymous No. 16518920

Saw a black Model S with the license playe SPACEX S. Austin area but I doubt it was Elon. But if it was, what was he doing near Firefly Aerospace?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518926

>>16518880
Oooooooo scurry! Watch them so nothing when I sneak in to Blumpfs golf club and do what anyone with over 80iq would do.

In Minecraft.

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Anonymous No. 16518927

>>16518838
The eternal anglo never sleeps

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518928

>>16518883
That's literally how every bill every has worked though.

Anonymous No. 16518930

>>16518875
Okay, using your map I need 8.8 km/s delta v to get a payload from LEO to the moon and then back to earth.
using the reduced i=350s and 100t shipmass + 1500t of fuel in LEO I can get an additional 25t of payload to and from the moon.


with regards to my chatgpt use with respect to the New Glenn numbers, I actually could not find any numbers on wikipedia, tho maybe I'm just blind or retarded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Glenn
could you spoonfeed me where you got that info from?

NRHO->Lunar surface->NRHO.
shouldn't it be LEO -> Lunar surface -> Earth surface?
thats a whole bunch of extra delta-v needed.
furthermore
>There is a 16 ton dry mass number on wikipedia (which is from Blue) and took me 5 seconds to find. It'll launch with as much propellant as possible to LEO on New Glenn
Since New Glenn has a 45t to LEO cap, that'd mean a 16t dry mass + 29t of fuel...
Thats a mass ratio (m_wet/m_dry) of 2.81:1, which seems INCREDIBLY LOW, compared to e.g. Starship or other rockets with values approaching 20:1.

At least with the 8.8 km/s a m_dry = 16t vehicle simply cannot get to the Lunar surface, let alone back to earth again on a 45t payload cap New Glenn rocket.
So why exactly do I only need to go NRHO->Lunar surface->NRHO when I'm starting in LEO?

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Anonymous No. 16518934

>>16518890
Classic /sfg/

Anonymous No. 16518941

>>16518485
Might be useful against super hardened targets but in general you don't want most of your weapon's energy being driven into the dirt.

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Anonymous No. 16518969

>>16518451
What is with the knuckle dragging retards in the replies?
Like I wanna believe this one is making fun of OP but everyone seems to be taking it seriously.

Anonymous No. 16518971

>>16518969
>20 years ago he would have gotten nowhere
20 years ago the dude was spit on by some Ruskie bureaucrat which spurred him to create a spaceflight company.

Anonymous No. 16518972

>>16518928
It isn't, and it's time to stop pretending it's okay that it has been working that way.

Anonymous No. 16518989

Wait so like will Santa also deliver presents to children on the Moon and Mars when we have colonies?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518994

>>16518972
But it literally is?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518996

>>16518994
No, it literally is not.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16518999

>>16518996
Literally every bill has some kind of back and forth trading if you want bipartisan support.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519001

>>16518999
This isn't "back and forth trading." Congress has transformed into a body that measures its success by how much Federal funding is going to their electoral districts, damn everything else. That is not a historically normal state of affairs, and it is robbery of the treasury and the American People to do this with deficit spending.

Anonymous No. 16519008

>>16518620
and you're probably just based

Anonymous No. 16519010

>>16518989
Moon children will get gifts from the Moon Bunnies.
Mars children will receive gifts from the Void Dragon.

Anonymous No. 16519011

>>16518803
"Trust the plan, it will launch the first time!"
lol, the power of old-space engineering

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519015

>>16519001
>polcel finally learns how a democracy works

G*d your dumb

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519017

>>16519015
Go back to Tumblr, tourist.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519023

>>16519017
Stop sucking Elons dick when he goes over the line.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519030

>>16519023
you are so fucking stupid
this is what citizens should do
congress is there to serve the people, they work for the people

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519034

>>16519030
I say congress should shoot you. Why don't they serve me???

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519037

>>16519030
So they should stop funding to rural areas because they don't benefit most of the country who live in cities?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519040

>>16519037
>rural areas don't benefit cities
Who grows the grain in your morning cereal?
Who raised the cows for your steak dinner?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519043

>>16519023
What line, precisely, did he supposedly cross?
The Constitution explicitly guarantees that the Government must:
>Allow the citizens to petition their government for remission of grievances
>Allow the citizenry the freedom to speak, even when the government, or other citizens working through the government, don't like it
Before you say some nonsense about campaign financing, remember that the choice of spending money is an act of free speech.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519044

>>16519040
Lazy people crying for subsidies instead of doing enough work to fund themselves.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519047

>>16519044
>t. Chaz tier farmer

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519052

>>16519047
>t. lazy organic farmer crying how Monsanto farms do triple yields

Anonymous No. 16519054

https://www.youtube.com/live/Fq4IlftNI1A

1 hour till Rocket Lab Electron.

Anonymous No. 16519055

>>16518920
SpaceX is about to get grounded by the FAA. Rats fleeing a sinking ship.

Anonymous No. 16519057

>>16518715
Change bezos for starship

Anonymous No. 16519059

>>16518760
It requires a precision which hasn't been possible. The atmosphere isn't uniform and shit flying through it on fire is hard to control. But with modern drone tech you can probably do it.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519060

>>16519052
Not even a farmer, guy.

Anonymous No. 16519066

>>16518728
Because they killed Epstein.

Anonymous No. 16519073

is it just a coincidence that the Earth takes exactly one day to rotate?

Anonymous No. 16519074

>>16518280
So fast? Bro they have been developing the raptor engine since 2011, and the first starship concep was made in 2016

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Anonymous No. 16519075

>>16518472
>hmm, should we accept the conclusions of our own research?
>that would imply defunding us so... no.
>but we should still accept the parts that get us more funding!

Anonymous No. 16519076

>>16519073
erm, sweaty it akshully takes the earth 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds to do a full rotation, not 24 hours.

Anonymous No. 16519079

>>16518852
big smile
big smile

Anonymous No. 16519080

>>16518711
There was also the maiden launch of ZhuQue-2E planned for December. Is that still on?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519082

>>16517922
>>16517919
the soviet union did, russia has a very poor track record of sending anything beyond LEO

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519086

>>16518116
all she needs is a little cock correction, literally every lesbian woman i've ever known eventually stopped having relationships with other women and backtracked to "i'm a bisexual" after getting with a man and never having a homosexual relationship ever again, even my stepsister (no i didn't dick her) did this.

this casual bisexuality you see in women is actually a natural dynamic that's pretty well documented, women can't be in proper romantic "love" with another women, but a majority of them are not as opposed to same-sex sexual activity and don't see it as "icky" the way two normal men do.
my hypothesis is that this is basically an instinct that helps multiple women get along with eachother in a harem relationship where one man has a committal relationship with multiple women.

so to get back on topic, these rocketgirls might shlick it with eachother, but they're really only doing it to release sexual frustration and would both team up to bow down to your cock the moment you offered it.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519092

>>16519034
>>16519037
complete non-sequiturs
fucking retards

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519093

>>16518485
can you stop peddling this meme already? russians hardly "mass produce" anything anymore.
i thought this war had taught people to stop taking ziggers at their word, they literally invented all of the incredulous deception tactics that all leftists use today, they never stopped using those themselves.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519095

>>16519086
oh my lesbophobia in my /sfg/ thread...

Anonymous No. 16519100

>>16519054
stream finally live after a short delay

Anonymous No. 16519102

>>16519100
...and then they IMMEDIATELY announce a scrub. pffft.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519109

>>16519086

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519110

>>16519095
just because i challenge the existence of lesbianism as described by those who peddle it, doesn't mean i'm afraid of lesbians, so no i'm not "phobic" i just see things for what they are, lesbians more often than not are just women with issues that are either spiteful of or scared of men and cope with their lack of male relationships by releasing sexual frustration with other women.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519112

>>16519110
Ok but who?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519113

>>16519112
what?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519114

>>16519113
WHO THE FUCK ASKED????????

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519115

/sfg/ - Sapphic Females General

Anonymous No. 16519116

>We are standing down from today’s launch attempt for @Synspective to take a closer look at sensor data.

>We have back-up opportunities in the coming days, so standby for the new launch date shortly.

https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1870120015376330840?t=rMdPrB1LXFgxUETr8Fbr2A

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519117

>>16519114
this isn't bluesky, nobody "asks" for discussion or counter-argumentation, but it happens anyway, because we live in a (mostly) free society.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519119

President Musk having a D1 crashout over his spending bill getting voted down.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519120

>>16519117
Ok but who?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519123

>>16519120
did you ask to mean who
>those who peddle it
means?
pretty obviously self-described lesbians and their political supporters, obviously.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519124

>>16519123
ok but who?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519125

The immovable troll meets the unstoppable schizo

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Anonymous No. 16519126

>>16519115
in this general we support rocket love and call out those who oppose it.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519130

>>16519124
i think you have a mental illness, you should consider getting a councelor of some kind to help you through this
>>16519125
being retarded or pretending to be retarded isn't trolling, it makes no difference which one it is either, the latter only points to a strong attention-seeking behaviour caused by a deprivation of love and attention early on in life.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519131

>>16519130
Ok but who?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519134

>>16519126
all of these would instantly bow down to the cock if offered.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519135

>>16519126
very based. I masturbate every day to the thought of starship having hot lesbian sex in orbit with another starship tanker

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519136

>>16519131
see >>16519130

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519137

>>16519134
>he thinks his tiny wiwwle pathetic peepee could satisfy let alone attract the attention of any rocketgirl
/sfg/ is deluded

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519139

>>16518789
>ELON MUSK DEAD
>APOTHEOSIS
>GOD ELON THRONE
huh

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519140

Musk really drives the dutch faggot insane lol

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519141

>>16519135
yes, and then starship-chan turning around to me, visibly sweating and gulping while she admires my member, then being prepared and loosened up by other rocket girl harem members before i make love to her as they all wait their turn in anticipation.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519143

>>16518871
>un4l1v3d
90 8@CK

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519144

>POV: You tried to fuck a rocket girl

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519146

>>16519137
>seething because his lesbian fantasy got ruined by reality
you can go sit in a closet and watch two girls rub their genitals together but most people aren't cuckolds.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519147

>>16519144
where did you get this video of my penis after a rocketgirl touches it??? It's private info, please delet

Anonymous No. 16519148

>>16518251
>Needs a new particle
Nope fake and gay.

Quark stars are real though. Most of what we call black holes are probably quark stars. There is no reason quark stars shouldn't form. But black holes are clearly a ridiculous result of GR and when someone has a theory of quantum gravity, it will probably prevent black hole formation.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519149

>>16519144
hot
also simple solution, inconel condom.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519150

>>16519146
Anon, you came in here talking about your dicks and your lesbian step sister, and got all mad about imaginary anime girls being lesbians.

No one cares. No one asked. Go away.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519151

>>16519146
>reality
>rocketgirls are real
let me reiterate myself
ahem
/sfg/ is deluded

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519152

>>16519150
>my dicks
i talked about general heterosexual relationships, why did this make you so upset?
>no one cares
nice of you to speak for everyone, but i didn't ask for your advice either.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519153

>>16519152
I don't care either. Please leave or get on topic.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519155

>>16519153
i am on topic, we are talking about rocketgirls and the ways in which you can make yurifags seethe by mentioning simple factoids.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519158

>>16519155
>SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE
>HAHA YORE MAD
>IM SUCH AN EPIC TROLL LOLOLOL
for homework, analyze your behavior and try to write down the reasons why you're constantly embarrassing yourself with your spergouts

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519159

>>16519134
this desu

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519161

>>16519158
>i am mad that you are pointing out a simple biological fact that invalidates my fantasy about fictional women having sexual relations with eachother
i'm not sure why you used capslock there, i was not screaming at you.
i'm honestly not trolling, i'm not really sure why this got such a visceral reaction from you specifically.

Anonymous No. 16519163

Why does the Martian sunset feel more comfy than the Earth sunset? Blue just feels more right for twilight.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519164

>>16519161
>visceral reaction from you specifically.
>everyone I don't like is one person
mate, at least three people told you off so far and countless more if we include your previous meltdowns.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519165

>>16519134
true, someone should commission a doujin where some faceless self-insert rocket nerd buckbreaks a group of lesbian rocketgirls and turns them into his harem.

Anonymous No. 16519167

Where can I learn orbital mechanics?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519168

>>16519164
ngl anon you're having hallucinations and i think you need to calm down, just because you samefag to do consensus cracking doesn't mean everyone else does.

Anonymous No. 16519170

>>16519167
books probably

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519172

>>16519168
>newfag can't read filenames/timestamps
of course

Anonymous No. 16519173

On Christmas Eve, the Parker Solar Probe will make its closest approach yet to the Sun. It will come within just 3.8 million miles (6.1 million km) of the solar surface, flying into the solar atmosphere for the first time.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519174

>>16519172
i haven't used any images whatsoever today or yesterday, so i'm not really sure why you're hallucinating about this.

Anonymous No. 16519175

>>16519173
how is this related to lesbian rocketgirls being dicked straight?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519176

>>16519175
you're getting it wrong, lesbian rocketgirls getting cock corrected is part of the spaceflight topic, not the other way around.

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Anonymous No. 16519178

hey guys check out this drawing of rockets as cute girls

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>>16519178
nice drawing

Anonymous No. 16519192

>>16519115
almost has the same name as my favorite newsgroup back in the day.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519193

>>16519178
>>16519184

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519201

>>16519184
i think starship would have a playful southern twang in her voice and SLS would have a cute, higher pitched and very uptight/formal transatlantic accent.

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Anonymous No. 16519203

>>16519173
Sun-diving is rad

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519204

>>16519203
rad as in the radiation bath you'll be taking that will kill you very quickly.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519205

>>16519126
>sisters
>>16519135
and that makes it even hotter

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519206

>>16518877
>european opinion
Not spaceflight
Unimportant musings from a dying land
Kill yourself before you experience a worse alternative

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519207

>>16519203
>ison the sungrazer
the sun is edible???

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519209

>>16519134
they are all capsules or upper stages, so they all ride the BRC (big rocket cock)

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519211

>>16519201
>SLS would have a cute, higher pitched and very uptight/formal transatlantic accent.
wouldn't it be the other way around? since SLS is mostly built in Alabama, Lousiana and Mississipi? Starship could still have a texan accent though

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519212

>>16519209
yes, mine

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519214

>>16519034
Because you're not American

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519215

>>16519204
Just avoid the radiation, skill issue
>>16519207
Everything in the universe is edible by something.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519216

>>16519184

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519217

>>16519173
it should go closer

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519218

>>16519211
i mean, that's true, but i felt it would be more fitting since starship is a pureblooded texan with sun-kissed skin with a spunky go-getter tomboy attitude and SLS is very federal/governmental in nature, very stuck in her ways, plus she's not only built in alabama, there are many many components and subcontractors from all over the US that contribute.
i picked transatlantic specifically since it's usually quite a formal accent and isn't really around anymore, it was more popular in the time where SLS's parts were concieved (the shuttle program).

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519219

>>16519218
>ywn hear SLS-chan accidentally spill her southern accent and get all flustered about it
WHY. EVEN. LIVE.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519223

>>16519219
imagine her yelling out
>"OH MAH GAWD!"
as she climaxes and then quickly realizes and covers her face in embarrassment, prompting starship-chan to console her.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519225

>>16519161
Fuck off retard. Not your blog. Everyone wishes you would die.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519227

>>16519223
>hey it's awright girl, you can show him this side a' you, he loves awl of you!

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519234

>>16519227
>>16519223
>>16519219
>>16519218
Where the fuck did these "people" come from?

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Anonymous No. 16519235

Cease the erotic roleplay, heathen swine.

>A SpaceX Falcon 9 will launch 4 MicroGEO satellites for Astranis. The satellites are designed to be much smaller than typical GEO sats and are therefore deployed closer to GEO, cutting down on the time between deployment and operation.

>Of the four satellites, one named "AGILA" will provide broadband access to the Philippines through Orbits Corp, two named "NuView-A and NuView-B" will be leased to Anuvu to provide internet connectivity to airplanes and cruise ships, and the final satellite named "UtilitySat", which will be reconfigurable on orbit, will temporarily provide replacement services for the failed Arcturus satellite.

It will be the 17th flight for booster #B1077, which first launched in 2022 when it flew Crew 5 to the ISS.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519236

>>16519223
>prompting starship-chan to console her.
only after laughing like a hyena about it
>>16519234
anime site

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519240

>>16519234
anime website, anon.

Anonymous No. 16519241

>>16519235
>GEO internet satellites
>in 2025 -11 days

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519243

>>16519236
>>16519240
Take it to A3 if you want to write elaborate smut about the rocketgirl drawings.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519244

>>16519234
welcome newfren

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16519245

>>16519236
>>16519240
>Anime site = ERP on a SFW board

Anonymous No. 16519249

any news on the long march that supposedly launched this morning?

Anonymous No. 16519250

>104 deleted posts
reminds me of the good ol days

Anonymous No. 16519252

>>16519249
the Rizhao one? apparently everything went smoothly

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Anonymous No. 16519253

>one of my posts was caught up in the mass deletion

Anonymous No. 16519256

>>16519249
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1869734334120460442

Anonymous No. 16519259

>>16518941
Yuzhmash is famous for having extensive underground workshops. The Soviets built it to take WW3 on the chin without slowing down production

Anonymous No. 16519260

>>16519256
thats the ceres-1 that launched yesterday. there was a cz-3b today

Anonymous No. 16519261

>>16519260
the TJSW-12 then? when fine by the looks of it, it was a military sat so no more info on it

Anonymous No. 16519263

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1870155411372028339
reveal yourself and fuck off

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Anonymous No. 16519266

>>16519263
what's the matter anon?

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Anonymous No. 16519267

https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/1870142869786534076
>A Long March 3B lifted off from Xichang at 1512 UTC, sending communication technology experiment-12 satellite (TJS-12) towards GEO. Nothing revealed except generic statement on uses. This was a domestic record-equaling launch #67 for China in 2024.

Anonymous No. 16519285

>>16519263
Please keep sinophobia out of /sfg/, thankjs

Anonymous No. 16519287

SpaceX is planning on operating another droneship next year, right?

Anonymous No. 16519291

>>16519287
speaking of it, what came out of those oil platforms?

Anonymous No. 16519293

>>16519291
too slow for starship I think

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Anonymous No. 16519304

I think you all know the answer too

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Anonymous No. 16519306

>>16519259
>Yuzhmash
yes, izhmash

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Anonymous No. 16519308

>>16519305
cheeky

Anonymous No. 16519310

>>16519304
huh? didn't they come back like, a month ago?

Anonymous No. 16519314

>>16519304
They probably keep santa hats on ISS year round

Anonymous No. 16519315

>>16519304
The ISS has a fully furnished closet filled with holiday decorations, same as the rest of us.
>>16519310
No, they were supposed to come back in February but I heard that got pushed back a month.

Anonymous No. 16519316

>>16519310
No, dragon problems so it got delayed even more

Anonymous No. 16519319

>>16519304
This reads like satire. More than the guy's other posts.

Anonymous No. 16519332

>>16519304
they look close to death what is he saying

Anonymous No. 16519335

>>16519304
>you don't get you be with your kids for Christmas morning because Boeing wanted to hire Shaniqua instead of Tom
The rage he must be feeling must be intense

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Anonymous No. 16519337

https://x.com/ThePrimalDino/status/1870182722250887592
>ARTEMIS II UPDATE: Another booster segment has been stacked onto the mobile launcher!
>This does start the booster clock, but as we saw last launch, NASA can extend that clock with paperwork to basically no detriment to the vehicle

It's sixteen long months until April 2026, assuming there are no further delays

Anonymous No. 16519338

>>16519335
they knew the risks
And NASA not being ready to launch an extra mission is really fucking ridiculous, they literally lost a shuttle because of this situation but never learned that lesson

Anonymous No. 16519339

>>16519291
They have more important things to worry about. Just like how they basically shut down all work in Florida for several months. They will come back to the oil rigs eventually.

Anonymous No. 16519342

>>16519338
Isn't that more SpaceX's fault for not having the 7 crew version like they promised
:^)

Anonymous No. 16519346

>>16519337
man, they sure are slow

Anonymous No. 16519348

>>16519342
Isn't that more NASA's fault for rejecting the 7 crew proposal
:^)

Anonymous No. 16519352

>>16519348
can't have extra unused seats in a capsule
what would the media think :)

Anonymous No. 16519355

>>16519352
Just fold them down, nbd

Anonymous No. 16519362

>>16519355
its not that easy in space flight!!

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Anonymous No. 16519363

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>>16519362
But it might be that easy in capsulery

Anonymous No. 16519366

>>16519365
you can't just put racing car seats in a capsule
space
is
hard

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Anonymous No. 16519367

>>16519365
holy shit

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Anonymous No. 16519368

What the fuck is going on up there

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Anonymous No. 16519372

>>16519367
>folding seats are reta-

Anonymous No. 16519373

>>16519367
nice argument faggot

Anonymous No. 16519374

>>16519368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG4YaEcNlb0
24/7 streams don't last forever? Sometimes they stop and need to get reset?

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Anonymous No. 16519386

https://x.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1870199574486196399
>And Lichtenstein makes it 52! Half of the members of UNCOPUOS now have signed the Artemis Accords, a milestone eagerly awaited by Mike Gold, the "father" of the Accords.

>update the map
>it doesn't look any different

Anonymous No. 16519388

>>16519304
How can they go so long trapped up there without food or water? Why is Elon letting them deteriorate like this? Frightening

Anonymous No. 16519391

>>16519386
how dare you imply that liechenstein is not important

Anonymous No. 16519393

>>16519363
LETS GO

Anonymous No. 16519397

>>16519374
They need time to calculate their next simulated stream

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Anonymous No. 16519407

>>16519386
I guess since the "United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Use of Outer Space" is supposed to be important, we might as well throw that up on the board too

Norway and Finland are both COPUOS and ESA members, so we'll probably see them sign on with Artemis sometime in 2025.

Anonymous No. 16519410

>>16518604
Silence, libtard.

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Anonymous No. 16519412

Spray earther bureaucrats with nuclear salt water reactor exhaust.

Anonymous No. 16519415

>>16519304
I don't get it. What's he implying? Sound stage on Earth?

Anonymous No. 16519418

>>16519415
Probably. That's the usual claim made by the "space is fake" nigger retards.

Anonymous No. 16519419

>>16519415
He's not actually implying anything. It's bottom shelf engagement bait.
>"But we all REALLY know what's really going here, right? Be sure to comment with what we really know is going on, and like and share to make sure everyone else knows what's really going on too!"

Anonymous No. 16519420

>>16519419
NASA secretly has star trek fabricators on board the space station that the astronauts can use to make anything they like.

Anonymous No. 16519421

>>16519415
all ISS footage is filmed on earth

Anonymous No. 16519423

>>16519421
>NASA is fabricating all the Starliner drama and is subjecting Boeing to an entirely fictitious humiliation ritual just for the lulz
holy based

Anonymous No. 16519426

>>16519423
no there are actually astronauts trapped up there
it just isn't those 2

Anonymous No. 16519427

>>16519423
Oh it's all to lend authenticity. "Space is fake" fags are THAT threatening to them apparently.

Anonymous No. 16519429

>>16519407
>>16519386
does china really have that little control over mongolia?

Anonymous No. 16519430

>>16519426
>"The real astronauts we sent up are trapped due to Boeing incompetence, so we're going to have to keep you on this Mr. Beast sound stage for the next seven months."

Anonymous No. 16519431

>>16519430
They are actors, thats their job

Anonymous No. 16519432

Is there some way to send cheesey movies to these imprisoned astronauts? I'm talking real cheesey, the worst I can find.

Anonymous No. 16519434

>>16519304
Is it possible the Santa hats were sent on one of the cargo shipments sent to the ISS since June? Nope, has to be a conspiracy

Anonymous No. 16519435

Fortuna is the closest thing in the modern day that Martian society will be like. You cannot refute this btw, its obviously going to be a corporatocracy.

Anonymous No. 16519439

>>16519429
Mongolia was one of the third round of signatories to COPUOS back in 1961, and they probably only joined to give the USSR a bit more presence when they joined in the same year. They have a positive view of space activities today but aren't making much investment into developing them. They're a lot like the remaining non-Artemis ESA nations; they just don't have that much skin in the game so there's little incentive to join any major initiatives

Anonymous No. 16519440

>>16519435
sounds based

Anonymous No. 16519442

>>16519434
>cargo can go up and down
>but people cannot

makes lots of sense nasa

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Anonymous No. 16519447

https://x.com/pronounced_kyle/status/1870193292396417220
>These satellites will only be on Earth for about eight more hours.

Anonymous No. 16519449

I know this is a couple of days old, but wtf
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musks-drug-means-isnt-145556489.html
>Elon Musk's Drug Use Means He Isn't Allowed to Enter Certain SpaceX Buildings
>As the Wall Street Journal reports, that's because the mercurial entrepreneur could risk having to reveal his frequent contacts with foreign nationals, most notably Russian president Vladimir Putin. Sources also told the newspaper that Musk's long-rumored drug use — said to range from ketamine to LSD — could be an issue if the CEO were to apply for a higher security clearance.
>Musk isn't even allowed to enter most facilities where work related to SpaceX's Starshield spy satellite program is being carried out
>Musk also isn't clued into what exactly his space company is launching when it comes to classified cargo.
>That sets him apart from his peers. According to the WSJ, CEOs at competing companies, including Boeing, the United Launch Alliance, and Lockheed Martin, have the necessary authorizations to get a peek.

Anonymous No. 16519450

>>16519447
what could possibly be sensitive enough that they have to dress up like that to work on it

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Anonymous No. 16519454

>>16519449
B-BUT HE SMOKED POT AGGHHHH

Anonymous No. 16519468

>>16519442
elon used to say a person can survive the launch on even the first cargo dragon flown. was he lying?

Anonymous No. 16519469

>>16519432
They'll have to sit and watch them all while we monitor their minds

Anonymous No. 16519471

>>16519449
name the source or its all bullshit

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Anonymous No. 16519472

>>16519447
I wanna work in space, thinking it's all exciting, exploding, balls to the wall shit. But I know it's all just going to be coddling circuit boards in a clean room.

Anonymous No. 16519479

>>16519442
Just stick them in a crate with a heatshield on the bottom, they'll be fine

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Anonymous No. 16519484

>>16519479
Too complex

Anonymous No. 16519487

>>16519484
Man Out Of Space Easily

Anonymous No. 16519488

>>16519484
>FOAMING COMPLETE

Anonymous No. 16519495

Guys, we need to think of ways /sfg/ anons can get to Mars. Gofundme? max credit cards? We need YOUR ideas

Anonymous No. 16519498

>>16519495
Indentured servitude. Paid for trip by SpaceX since you work for them and they need you there. Best options I can think of, Im going for route 2.

Anonymous No. 16519499

>>16519498
unconstitutional

Anonymous No. 16519501

>>16519499
point out where on mars's constitution it says you can't do that.

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Anonymous No. 16519502

https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1870245185348624825
>Four new Astranis satellites are poised to launch to a geosynchronous transfer orbit from Cape Canaveral, Florida, at 10:39pm ET tonight

Anonymous No. 16519503

>>16519501
It’s not even unconstitutional in the US.

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>>16519495
Right of plunder

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Anonymous No. 16519505

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2024/12/bandwagon-2/
>On Saturday, Dec. 21st, SpaceX will launch the Bandwagon-2 rideshare mission from Space Launch Complex 4E at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is scheduled for 3:34 AM PST (11:34 UTC), with another opportunity the next day at 3:12 AM PST if the launch should be delayed. This flight carries 30 payloads for a variety of customers, including a synthetic aperture radar satellite for South Korea. The spacecraft are heading for a 45-degree inclination, with deployments expected in circular orbits at around 510 and 570 kilometers in altitude.
>Bandwagon-2 is scheduled for launch less than eight hours after a mission for Astranis is due to lift off from Florida, making it SpaceX’s 131st Falcon mission of 2024, with five more scheduled for the remainder of December. After having a slower third quarter with only 27 launches, this is already the 39th in the fourth quarter of the year. The next SpaceX flight is expected to carry Starlink satellites early Monday morning from Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The next rideshare flight will be Transporter 12 in January to Sun-synchronous orbit (SSO).

Anonymous No. 16519506

>>16519502
>astra is back
based

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Anonymous No. 16519512

Sucks that we have to wait until January 11th.

Anonymous No. 16519517

>>16519495
I will simply be paying for a ticket to the Moon, where I will also be operating ice mines and titanium refineries.
Maxing out credit cards to pay for a ticket to Mars then simply never going back to Earth is a based strategy though. Rather, paying for commodity goods which you then sell for cash to pay for the ticket. Do everything you can to get your credit ceiling as high as possible, leverage it all at once, then literally just leave the planet.

Anonymous No. 16519531

>>16519495
I wonder if some kind of lottery would be possible: you pay any amount of money you want, and get a proportional probability of being selected for one of the ticket the pooled money can buy.

Anonymous No. 16519532

>>16519517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXBiPY8wDT0

Anonymous No. 16519535

>>16519512
My brain keeps trying to make an image of the two towers at starbase forming an 11, a la the world trade center on Sept 11 remembrance images

Anonymous No. 16519543

>>16519499
the constitution limits the powers of the federal government

Anonymous No. 16519551

>>16519342
NASA's own documents list Dragon 2 as having 7 seats. It was their own retarded backseat engineers who imposed the 4 seat limit after the fact and as usual they shot themselves in the foot in doing so.

Anonymous No. 16519555

>>16519551
Hopefully Issacman can revisit this. Losing like half the seats really hurts the space tourism scene, which in turn is strangling NASA's CLDP.

Anonymous No. 16519556

>>16519512
That's nothing compared to how long you used to have to wait for literally anything to happen in spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16519557

>>16519556
I should be able to go down to South Padre for a nice day at the beach, and incidentally see a couple Starship launches

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>>16519556
I know, I sat through the three year wait between SN15 and IFT-1. I, being greedy and impatient, want more, more ambitious, and faster.

Anonymous No. 16519572

>>16519449
Even if all that is true, I don't think he gives a shit about it. His focus is on Starship and Mars. Gwynne has the necessary clearance and she can run shop on that front. Starshield is also based on Starlink, so any gains made there will inevitably pollinate into the other through Gwynne. People really love to make mountains out of molehills.

Anonymous No. 16519590

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=astranis-from-one-to-many
>SpaceX is targeting Friday, December 20 for Falcon 9’s launch of the Astranis: From One to Many mission to a geosynchronous transfer orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. The launch window opens at 11:15 p.m. ET and closes at 2:28 a.m. ET on Saturday, December 21. If needed, a backup opportunity is available on Sunday, December 22 during a 129-minute window that opens at 12:00 a.m. ET.
>A live webcast of this mission will begin about 15 minutes prior to liftoff, which you can watch here and on X @SpaceX. You can also watch the webcast on the new X TV app.
>This will be the 17th flight for the Falcon 9 first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched Crew-5, GPS III Space Vehicle 06, Inmarsat I6-F2, CRS-28, NG-20, TD-7, and nine Starlink missions. After stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

Anonymous No. 16519597

>>16519447
I just want to point out that everyone in that photo is fat

Anonymous No. 16519598

>>16519472
until its not

Anonymous No. 16519601

>>16519484
Find a way to save only the head. thats all that counts really. RETURN THE HEAD

Anonymous No. 16519603

>>16519601
It should be relatively easy to decapitate and deorbit an astronaut's head, the shape is conducive to reentry already.

Anonymous No. 16519605

>>16519556
yeah, used to have to plan your year for a good launch.

Anonymous No. 16519606

>>16519603
place on another body and relaunch. its the way to go.

Anonymous No. 16519613

>>16519512
Looks like a lightsaber

Anonymous No. 16519620

>>16519613
because its a force for good

Anonymous No. 16519621

>>16519620
Bro shut the fuck up

Anonymous No. 16519622

>>16519620
You have to go back

Anonymous No. 16519623

Did Blorigin static fire yet?

Anonymous No. 16519624

>>16519623
2 more weeks

Anonymous No. 16519628

>>16519620
Then why is the blade red?

Anonymous No. 16519629

>>16519628
because its a force for good

Anonymous No. 16519634

>>16519505
>The next rideshare flight will be Transporter 12 in January to Sun-synchronous orbit (SSO).
Carrying either an expecsive space scam or revolutionary breakthrough aboard

Anonymous No. 16519635

>>16519621
>>16519622
only the sith deal in absolutes

>>16519628
red is fine

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Anonymous No. 16519636

>Watching 'tomorrow today' on DW news
>It's about space
>Former ESA director in an interview says that we should not leave earth because it would somehow encourage the destruction of earth by destroying the ionosphere
These are the people betraying Europe... will post the episode if it gets uploaded later.

Anonymous No. 16519637

>>16519634
expensive

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Anonymous No. 16519645

>>16519636
their way of thinking is a lost cause,
they are stagnation, inside and out.

ignore and carry on

Anonymous No. 16519646

>>16519636
We should leave earth because it will encourage the destruction of earthers by way of throwing rocks

Anonymous No. 16519654

>>16519645
something about the saturn v gives it an aura of bigness that starship just doesn't have. I know starship is bigger, but it doesn't *feel* bigger, know'm sayin?

Anonymous No. 16519658

>>16519654
tapered profile

Anonymous No. 16519659

>>16519658
also 10m diameter

Anonymous No. 16519662

>>16519080
Nope, there reportedly was some minor issue that required an investigation, Ceres-1 from jiuquan is also NET early january.

Lijian 1 looking good for an attempt next wednesday tho, a NOTAM was just issued.

Anonymous No. 16519664

>>16519654
It might be based on an awareness of the scale of the apollo command module.
You (we) have seen tons of media on the apollo missions, so anyone interested in space has a decent feel for the size of the command module / lander based on hollywood and other media.
It's harder to get a grasp of scale with Starship because it's pretty rare to have pictures of people sitting next to it, let alone actually being inside its cargo bay. The most we get is telephoto shots from 1000's of yards away.

Pencil-dick syndrome (>>16519654) might be a cause as well, but I really think it's just because we haven't been inundated with media of humans standing next to that chrome whore.

Anonymous No. 16519666

https://x.com/AshleyKillip/status/1870253009407750274

Anonymous No. 16519668

clearly not space flight related

Anonymous No. 16519672

>>16519352
>>16519355
>>16519362
This is why I hope SpaceX puts off "man rating" StarShip as long as possible.

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Anonymous No. 16519673

>>16518711
Ok some additional rumor mill talk about Qianfan.

They're currently built by two companies, Genesat and Shanghai Microsat, each company builds one out of two batch, they're currently being contracted for an initial run of ~320 satellites each to be produced by end of 2025, 1st and 3rd batch were by Shanghai Microsat, 2nd and 4th by Genesat.

Late in november all of the Qianfan satellites of the second batch of Qianfan stopped their orbit raising (800km polar to 1100 km polar), it's now increasingly rumoured that it was because of a problem in their electric propulsion, which is specific to the Genesat-built sats, as a result the 4th batch is possibly being investigated or even recalled. If true that particular CZ-8 launch may not happen until some months.

Anonymous No. 16519676

>>16519407
Remember when DreamChaser was supposed to do a bunch of UN flights?

Anonymous No. 16519678

>>16519468
Aside from less redundancy in the abort engines, what else is different between the two? Also doesn't cargo have a higher G landing?

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Anonymous No. 16519684

>>16519668
>clearly

Anonymous No. 16519686

>>16519676
https://www.sncorp.com/news-archive/sierra-nevada-corporation-enters-talks-with-the-united-nations-on-a-dedicated-dream-chaser-spacecraft-mission/
2016 was a long time ago. That whole program seems to have stalled out around the same time that Dream Chaser lost its commercial crew bid and DC's development timeline started to stretch out to infinity. Sometime after that someone decided that Dream Chaser should fly that mission on an Ariane 6 and that made things even worse. Which sucks, because it's an interesting sounding program that they could easily handle onboard a free-flying cargo dragon if they really wanted to.

It was only a Memorandum of Understanding anyway. That's the sort of bureaucratic thing that says "we like this idea, but no one with any real influence is willing to commit anything to push for it."

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Anonymous No. 16519691

>>16519689
I don't think starship is big enough to facilitate that kind of in space construction. It would have to be at least... 12 meters in diameter

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Anonymous No. 16519703

https://www.amerikanets.com/p/mea-maxima-culpa
>Mea Maxima Culpa: My previous analysis was completely wrong

So, it turns out that not only does the independently analyzed satellite imagery from a few days ago only show old damage to the Yuzemash plant, there's a good chance that western commercial satellite imagery providers are altering their data to conceal the damage caused in the strike.

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https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1870298773559357542
>Different angles of the moment a Houthi Ballistic missile evaded two Israeli air defence missiles and struck Tel Aviv.

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>>16519705

Anonymous No. 16519715

>>16519706
>>16519705
missile defense is fake and doesn't work

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>>16519720
>AstrAnus

Anonymous No. 16519724

>>16519720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BggYOgPmJxo
T-39:00

Anonymous No. 16519726

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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6h
Replying to @Erdayastronaut
Cool

Anonymous No. 16519737

>>16519654
Saturn V is tapered like a skyscraper, so it looks like a huge building. Starship has no sense of scale

Anonymous No. 16519738

It's my opinion that Belters should have no rights and that they should be slaves for Mars and Earth.

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>>16519737
On the other hand...

Anonymous No. 16519742

>>16519720
cool logo

Anonymous No. 16519743

>>16519741
holograms

Anonymous No. 16519744

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1BdGYEnprWgGX
live

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Anonymous No. 16519745

Reminder that you will never be qualified to go to Mars and you will not step foot there

Anonymous No. 16519748

god I love newspace optimism

Anonymous No. 16519749

>space is hard

Anonymous No. 16519754

what if in the 60's you just put a man in the 1st stage and pilotted it to a landing

Anonymous No. 16519755

abort!

Anonymous No. 16519756

ABORT

Anonymous No. 16519757

ABORT

Anonymous No. 16519758

>abort

Anonymous No. 16519759

oooh, a rare post-ignition abort

Anonymous No. 16519760

literally had this weird feeling like 1-2 seconds before ignition that it would go wrongn wtfff

Anonymous No. 16519762

It's over. Elon is done. Goodbye SpaceX.

Anonymous No. 16519763

space is hard

Anonymous No. 16519764

>>16519754
>/sfg/ reinvents the space shuttle

Anonymous No. 16519765

>>16519760
same, at about t-1min I thought "I haven't watched a spacex launch in awhile what if something goes wrong?"

Anonymous No. 16519766

Whose bot is running loose?

Anonymous No. 16519767

>>16519760
note earlier in the day saw one of the Astranis people post something like "this is the last day these sats will be on Earth today" too and was like way to jinx it!

Anonymous No. 16519768

OWARI DAA

Anonymous No. 16519769

>>16519764
1st stage

Anonymous No. 16519770

>>16519759
>edged the ignition too hard

Anonymous No. 16519771

someone's getting fired....

Anonymous No. 16519772

>>16519754
1. Margins were too thin to try and attempt a return of a booster
2. Avionics were just barely enough to land a (super sonic) jet, nevermind a tumbling-turd of a first stage

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>>16519773
The lightning towers will always look great, even if I prefer a rocket that can tank dozens of strikes.

Anonymous No. 16519777

>>16519772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbklYfuXEBo&ab_channel=Hazegrayart

Anonymous No. 16519778

https://x.com/pronounced_kyle/status/1870335039134732290

holy sheet he's seething

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>>16519776
Big Friday Night Lights vibe with this one

Anonymous No. 16519780

>>16519779
the grandiosity of that launch complex is never lost on me

Anonymous No. 16519781

https://x.com/Kyplanet893/status/1870245081573101658

could've had kino

Anonymous No. 16519782

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1870338549255692457
>Standing down from tonight’s Falcon 9 launch of the Astranis: From One to Many mission. Now targeting Sunday, December 22 for liftoff

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Anonymous No. 16519785

Meanwhile, SpaceX continues to obliterate the small launch market

Anonymous No. 16519788

>>16519785
>you can't just do 12 launches in one

Anonymous No. 16519791

>>16519788
https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/spacex-launching-30-satellites-on-bandwagon-2-rideshare-mission-early-dec-21
>SpaceX launching 30 satellites on Bandwagon-2 rideshare mission early Dec. 21

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>>16519706

Anonymous No. 16519793

>>16519785
inb4 small launch cope about how they can launch miniscule payloads into esoteric orbits for cheaper than an F9 launch

Anonymous No. 16519794

as of 12 seconds ago, shutdown adverted btw
t. c span

Anonymous No. 16519802

>>16519673
Thanks for that info on the Chinese sats, anon, can be hard to find that sort of thing on English websites. Kinda sucks for them that they may have had a defective batch.

Anonymous No. 16519808

>>16519794
>shutdown averted
not for nine Merlin engines...

Anonymous No. 16519811

>>16519808
This may come as a surprise, but all Merlins shut down.

Anonymous No. 16519815

>>16519741
Notice how they violate the design principles of New York City. The other buildings taper, not them. That's why they were doomed from the start.

Anonymous No. 16519835

>>16519815
The twin towers were not unique in being vertical. They realized that with a large enough plaza, they could comply with the setback rules and otherwise make a wholly vertical building. There are several examples from that decade throughout Manhattan.

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Anonymous No. 16519838

https://www.youtube.com/live/JQqjghKuUMc
Dont forget to watch: Cute space journalist Loren Gash (formerly of the Vage), and the boys present the 2024 Off Nominees!

Anonymous No. 16519840

>>16519838
>you don't hate the lying legacy media enough
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1870205041417535542
KEK

Anonymous No. 16519845

>>16519838
How long until he calls them Lügenpresse?

Anonymous No. 16519850

>>16519840
Yeah, they should have wrote "elon fan drives a car into a group of people"

Anonymous No. 16519866

/sfg/ 已死。

Anonymous No. 16519869

>>16519840
I don't get it. Isn't this literally objectively correct?

Anonymous No. 16519873

>>16519869
moving the agency from the saudi terrorist to the car is devious behavior

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Anonymous No. 16519908

>>16517986
>elon billionaire bad
Who could be behind this angle? HMMMMMMMM

AHA

Anonymous No. 16519910

>>16519908
Isaacman is also a Jew. It's in the name.

Anonymous No. 16519938

>>16519720
Not only is it a dumb name but don’t go trying to chase the Atari logo, because you’ll never be the atari logo. You’ll just look like a cheap imitation

Anonymous No. 16519939

>>16519472
Starship prototypes were basically built on the beach. The sort of thinking that all satellites need to be built in clean rooms because military spy satellites are built that way is similar to the belief that you can't use stainless steel because no one else uses it so you just can't okay despite nobody actually running the numbers until Elon demanded it.

Anonymous No. 16519940

>>16519939
They still built a factory building in the end, because the results are faster, cleaner, and stronger when they're done indoors without dust and debris getting into the melt pool.

Anonymous No. 16519942

>>16517986
>it's unclear
>anything could happen
hard hitting journalism

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>>16519722

Anonymous No. 16519950

>>16519940
Of course, the efficiencies required for mass production demand it. My point being a lot of the cool stuff doesn't require that sort of environment at all. After Jake McKenzie took over Raptor development his engineering team moved their desks to the production line. There was no seperate production team, at least not initially. There was no proper factory at the time either. The engineers had total control over every aspect of design, production and testing. Very hands on and Elon was in nearly all their meetings during that time period.

Anonymous No. 16519952

Cute voice in MC

Anonymous No. 16519956

What's with this flight profile

Anonymous No. 16519957

>>16517990
They will probably fly it north during mission extensions.

Anonymous No. 16519961

>>16519845
He did, and because of that he had to undergo a humiliation ritual.

Anonymous No. 16519962

>>16519956
Sun Synchronous Orbit with secret customer payload(s).

Anonymous No. 16519968

>>16519962
I missed the first 90 seconds so the speeds after MECO seemed really off but that explains it.

Anonymous No. 16519969

>>16519939
It's amazing how much of spaceflight is "We're doing it this way because that's how it always was done." Also easy to forget that spaceflight has only been (meaningfully) around for like 50 years

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>>16519969
>"We're doing it this way because that's how it always was done."
>Question not the wisdom of the ancients

Anonymous No. 16519984

>>16519957
to get to the most southerly lake known from the equator would take at least 9 months of flight time at max speed (10m/s). It'll never make it

Anonymous No. 16519986

>>16519969
This is why Elon insists on learning all of their lessons the hard way: they don't ever lean on "because it's always been done this way."

Anonymous No. 16519990

>>16518118
not really, matlab is way better. Coding mfs get pissy because it is closed source, but it genuinely has the best documentation of any programming language. It's also free if you pirate it

Anonymous No. 16519991

>>16519968
It seems I was mistaken. The regular Transporters are SSO, while Bandwagon is mid-inclination.

Anonymous No. 16519998

>>16519984
Titan diameter is 5100km. Divide that by 4 to get the distance from the equator to the pole (1275km).

Dragonfly can do 60km per titan day (16 earth days) https://dragonfly.jhuapl.edu/News-and-Resources/docs/34_03-Lorenz.pdf

1275/60 * 16 = 340 days

Time it took for opportunity to reach endeavor crater after announcing the extended mission plan: 4 years https://www.universetoday.com/63858/opportunitys-long-and-winding-road-to-endeavour-crater/


Also your math is wrong. At a continuous 10m/s it would take 35.4 hours

Anonymous No. 16520011

>>16519986
seems to have paid off

Anonymous No. 16520018

>>16519998
You need to work with the circumference of the body, which for titan would be about 16000km. Lowest latitude lake is about 70 degrees north, so assuming you landed due south of it, you'd need to travel about 3000km to get there. 3.75km per Earth day is 1370km per Earth year, so actually about 2 years of hauling ass. That's definitely possible but that presumes no meandering for checking out interesting areas along the way. But even with that you'd expect to reach the lakes within 4 years

Anonymous No. 16520021

Are there any fuel mixtures that would perform better in a vacuum?

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Anonymous No. 16520023

Caelus.

Anonymous No. 16520031

less than 1 min until launch

https://www.youtube.com/live/-7VZB4pHJrQ

Anonymous No. 16520032

>>16520031
Owls well that ends well

Anonymous No. 16520036

>>16520031
all nominal so far, good parking orbit. Deploy in forty minutes.

Anonymous No. 16520038

>Hobbit Lab now has as many launches this year as the entire country of Russia

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16520041

>>16520021
shit and cum

Anonymous No. 16520042

>>16520038
Does anyone know how Rogozin kept his head after losing the NASA contracts for ISS rides.

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Anonymous No. 16520045

Clear Live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Q6YGW3mEI

Anonymous No. 16520048

>>16520042
He went to fight in ukraine with the other russian criminals

Anonymous No. 16520049

>>16520021
bubbas hot sauce

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Anonymous No. 16520054

she cute

Anonymous No. 16520056

>>16519745
maybe you, I'm built different

Anonymous No. 16520058

>>16520054
cute rocket girl is cute

Anonymous No. 16520059

>>16520054
Why's she so fucking cocky? This roggetgirl mocks us with her smug aura.

Anonymous No. 16520061

>>16520059
she comes from money

Anonymous No. 16520071

>>16520054
I want to get up her skirt

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Anonymous No. 16520077

https://spacenews.com/retired-military-weather-satellite-breaks-up/
>The U.S. Space Force reported Dec. 19 that it had identified a “low-velocity fragmentation event” involving the DMSP-5D2 F14 spacecraft. The event took place at 9:10 p.m. Eastern Dec. 18 at an altitude of 840 kilometers, but the announcement did not disclose how much debris had been created by the event. Two commercial space situational awareness companies, LeoLabs and Slingshot Aerospace, said they were also tracking the breakup event. Slingshot, in a Dec. 19 social media post, said they believe the breakup took place before 8:15 p.m. Eastern on the 18th, an hour earlier than the Space Force’s estimate, based on tracking from its optical ground stations. LeoLabs, in a Dec. 20 statement to SpaceNews, said its network of radars was tracking more than 50 objects from the fragmentation of DMSP-5D2 F14.
>DMSP-5D2 F14 is part of a family of spacecraft that have suffered breakups in orbit. The F12 satellite broke up in October 2016, following the breakup of F13 in February 2015. In 2004, the F11 spacecraft broke up, creating 56 pieces of tracked debris. All the satellites had a battery assembly with a design flaw that made them vulnerable to explosion. A similar spacecraft design was used for a line of civilian polar-orbiting weather satellites operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The NOAA-16 satellite broke up in November 2015, followed by NOAA-17 in March 2021.

Anonymous No. 16520079

>>16520077
>All the satellites had a battery assembly with a design flaw that made them vulnerable to explosion
Stupid pebbles

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>>16520054
>military autist from korea
>draws a rocket girl once
>it's absolute peak
love seeing spaceflight become more popular

Anonymous No. 16520118

Where is everyone?

Anonymous No. 16520119

>>16520118
On Earth.

Anonymous No. 16520121

Elon Smell

Anonymous No. 16520128

>>16520118
ive been out launching snow off my driveway. its very very fine...like a powder.

Anonymous No. 16520135

>>16520118
Making Christmas treats.

Anonymous No. 16520136

>>16520118
Christmas time with nothingburger tier happenings. I suspect a bunch of anons stopped visiting as soon as exam season was over. Election season shit also winding down (finally). This is the normal amount of traffic, 1000 posts per thread was abnormal especially for such a long time. 500-700 is normal.

Anonymous No. 16520140

>>16520136
>This is the normal amount of traffic
>3 days ago thread

Yeah normal for /sfg/ after that anti-anime autist had all his countless tantrums and destroyed this general

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Anonymous No. 16520154

If only Nixon had Kennedy’s drive for space. Is probably consider him the best POTUS of all time. It’s like his only downside… the fact that he gave us eternal Shittle for so long :/

Anonymous No. 16520155

>>16520154
Agnew cared more about space than Nixon

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Anonymous No. 16520166

I am in love bros

Anonymous No. 16520167

>>16520154
If it wasn't for the completely pointless Vietnam war, then we would already have bases on Mars. That schizo fag got us one of the worst timelines.

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>>16520166
>mid woman :/
>mid woman, Japan :o

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Anonymous No. 16520173

>>16520172
imagine the smell

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Anonymous No. 16520175

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1870534405963542555
>It's another New Glenn day! First up looks like an attempt at completing a WDR (Wet Dress Rehearsal) ahead of the main show a bit later today, the first-ever Static Fire test of Blue Origin's big rocket. We will go with dedicated coverage for the latter.

Anonymous No. 16520177

>>16520166
astronaut?

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>>16520167
Reminder that Nixon didn't start the pointless war.

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Anonymous No. 16520197

https://x.com/rondaz_4/status/1870547719405871551
>PSLV C60 : SPADEX : FLP : NET 30 December 2024 (16:00 UTC)
>The launch vehicle has been integrated and now moved to the First Launch Pad, for further integration of satellites and launch preparations.

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Anonymous No. 16520212

>>16519741
too soon

Anonymous No. 16520219

>>16519838
Some of you think you hate journalists enough, but you do not.

Anonymous No. 16520222

>>16520171
If you only knew how rare it is to find a woman into engineering

Anonymous No. 16520234

>>16520212
Its been 35 years already

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>>16520240

Anonymous No. 16520245

>>16520244
Literally my first thought as well

Anonymous No. 16520246

>>16520244
>>16520240
time is a flat circle

Anonymous No. 16520248

>>16520240
>>16520244
>engineer rushes to build a rocket to leave a planet filled with hostile blue and green creatures

Anonymous No. 16520256

>>16520246
Carcosa..

Anonymous No. 16520258

>>16520244
lmao

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Anonymous No. 16520264

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDw7nM8_5VE

Anonymous No. 16520272

>>16520264
lol, paper rocket

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>>16520264
hop baldy
HOP ALREADY

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>>16520240
ohshi-

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>>16520248
it's the pink creatures you really gotta watch out for

Anonymous No. 16520281

hey sfg guess what

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>>16520281

Anonymous No. 16520288

>>16520281
let me guess, you like roggets?

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>>16520280
wrong
pink creature is cute

Anonymous No. 16520295

>>16520222
Art hoes are better and much more common

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>>16520290
No! Put it back!

Anonymous No. 16520298

>>16520284
>>16520288
>30
>TONS

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>>16520290
indeed

Anonymous No. 16520327

>>16520297
>Fur
>Jointed legs
It's unfortunately too late

Anonymous No. 16520328

>>16520290
>>16520303
bocchi the cock

Anonymous No. 16520331

>>16520297
oh god i can already imagine a cringy voice over

Anonymous No. 16520393

sfg is dead

Anonymous No. 16520422

>>16520393
oldspace is dead

Anonymous No. 16520429

How do we make rocket girls real?

Anonymous No. 16520430

is kuiper suppoost to be different than starlink in a fundamental way besides being late

Anonymous No. 16520433

“My plan is to use the money to get humanity to Mars and preserve the light of consciousness.”

-Elon Reeve Musk

Anonymous No. 16520436

>>16520422
long live newspace

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Anonymous No. 16520441

long live the $3 for 2 chicken sandwich mobile deal at Jack In the Box

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16520442

So far so good

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Anonymous No. 16520454

Starship seems to be improving cadence at roughly the same rate as the first F9 flights, but from a much lower starting point. I predict Starship will reach the same cadence as F9 today in 60% the time it took F9.
It took F9 about 14 years to reach a flight rate of 15 flights per month. I predict it will take Starship ~8 years to achieve the same flight rate (meaning 6 years to go, since we're nearly 2 years in). The path to reusability and the scalability of Starship is still uncertain, so I think it can plausibly reach the current rate sooner or later than that.
So 15 Starship flights a month by 2031.

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>>16520442
>Advertised Payload to LEO (Tons) vs Cumulative Then-Year R&D Expenditure (Billions)

Anonymous No. 16520458

>>16520456
F9 had more capability than ITS and we had that in 2011. what the fuck is the shitrat muskfuck doing???

Anonymous No. 16520460

>>16520458
>real rocket has more demonstrated capability than concept rocket

going for those really low hanging fruit

Anonymous No. 16520462

>>16520460
F9 was not a concept, it's very real

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STAGING
>>16520465
>>16520465
>>16520465

Anonymous No. 16520482

>>16520054
i want her to tear me to shreds with her piss stream

Anonymous No. 16520516

>>16520023
Yes.

Anonymous No. 16520573

>>16520430
No, it's basically Space Rivian. I suspect the original plan was to use it to build out more Amazon offices and warehouses off grid but now they're shrinking so ayy lmao.