Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 21:01:36 UTC No. 16571634

>>16570279
Are you willing to join the military to get experience? You also need the security clearance which is expensive to get.

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 22:02:11 UTC No. 16571726

>>16571634
Might get more info on joining the military and commissioning, also for other countries.

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 23:59:18 UTC No. 16571814

I just started a 6 month internship at a large multinational in the semiconductor space but the thing is that I just received a positive response from a UN-affiliated International Organisation I had also applied to.

The thing is I would have to cut my current intership short by two months to be able to participate in this second one. Should I resign after 4 months or pull through?

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 02:54:36 UTC No. 16571908

>>16571632
I've noticed a corrollory between famous/successful engineers and bachelors degrees in physics instead of engineering. What is up with this?

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 02:58:10 UTC No. 16571912

>>16571908
corollary*

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 08:03:00 UTC No. 16572047

>>16571908
Never met a physics grad in Engineering. They all end up as Faka Scientists.

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 08:11:38 UTC No. 16572051

>>16572047
what industry are you in?

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 08:43:41 UTC No. 16572059

>>16572051
Automotive

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 19:37:00 UTC No. 16572484

>>16571908
I am not famous, is that because I also did a PhD?
t.Physicist

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 06:39:43 UTC No. 16572980

How the fuck is it considered normal to upload a deanonymised preprint of your paper when it is under peer review in machine learning? Why did I join this retarded dog and pony show of a field when my talents would indicate I would be better off as a sommelier or playboy? Why has god seen it fit to make me into the play slave of a cadre of nefarious effective altruists?

Mysteries of the universe.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 06:51:36 UTC No. 16572982

Doing a PhD has been the most heartbreaking and pointless exercise in my life, one littered in pointless and heartbreaking exercises.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 07:30:43 UTC No. 16572999

I wish people wouldn't just randomly tweet things about me, but im willing to be Christlike and accept that they don't know I'm being gangstalked.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 07:56:59 UTC No. 16573019

Everything I have ever persued or desired in life has hurt me. Maybe with this realisation I have taken one step closer to transcending this cycle of death and rebirth.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 08:19:49 UTC No. 16573040

>>16572999
If I see the guy that did this I'm going to physically assault him (a bite? High velocity karate chop to the neck?) and I don't care if it gets me arrested. I'm already in hell, what do I have to fear about prison?

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 15:35:30 UTC No. 16573272

>>16572980

Peer review in the natural sciences at least is generally not double blind. In other words, you don't know who the reviewers are but the reviewers know who you are. Not entirely sure why this has persisted for as long as it has.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 17:32:22 UTC No. 16573351

>>16573272
The conferences I submit to claim to be double blind yet people are flapping their damn gums about my paper on X the everything app so what happens if one of these shitbirds ends up my reviewer?

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 17:58:11 UTC No. 16573374

>>16573272
Trying to make it double blind is a largely pointless exercise; in all but the largest research areas, the list of people working on a particular topic (especially in niche areas) is small enough that anyone a journal brings on as a subject matter expert for a submission is going to know who the submitter is.
>Hello Dr. Anon. Our journal is interested in having you review a paper submitted to our journal on your area of expertise - as you are recognized as one of only two experts in the world specializing in the application of nonlinear collisional gyrokinetic theory to plasma turbulence and shear-driven waves during transient magnetic reconnection in the magnetosphere. As per our journal's guidelines, we cannot reveal the name of the author, and appreciate your discretion in this review process.

Single blind review isn't perfect either (for the same reason), but at least keeping the identities of the reviewers anonymous lets them feel more comfortable giving their objective criticism of an article.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 18:10:35 UTC No. 16573394

>>16573374
No body knows who I am because

1. I'm totally new to the field
2. I'm an alpha male top g who moves in silence and realises not everything needs a response.

Additionally double blind would be good for me because I am a victim of a life long conspiracy perpetrated against me for simply being myself.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 18:20:36 UTC No. 16573401

>>16573374
I agree that in some or even many cases it might be like this. But in my particular field at least it's not nearly always the case. There are some super niche papers for which you can tell the author from just reading the title. Even from those same groups you get more generic papers.

All of that is sort of besides the point though. Of course double blind review would likely not be perfect. But not even trying to do this very basic thing which is routinely employed in other academic areas just because it might not work perfectly all the time seems odd. Especially since it does not seem like a change that would require very substantial efforts from the publishers.

I don't have an axe to grind on this one as my groups and institutions were well-known. If anything, I benefited from the biases and definitely think that someone submitting the same work from a different institution would have likely ended up at lower tier journals.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 18:21:54 UTC No. 16573403

>>16573394
>I am a victim of a life long conspiracy perpetrated against me
take meds

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 18:24:12 UTC No. 16573406

>>16573403
If you knew me you would speak so rashly

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 18:25:37 UTC No. 16573407

>>16573406
*Wouldn't

See they made me mess that up

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 22:18:30 UTC No. 16573621

>>>/adv/32680542
>>>/adv/32680543
tl;dr I want to study Mathematics--more interested in Pure Mathematics rather than Applied--should I take the rigorous version of the Calc 2 course being offered? Does it make all that much of a difference? I don't believe there's a professor teaching a rigorous version of Multivariable. Won't proofs be introduced later on anyway? What's the benefit of being introduced to this way of doing things earlier on?

Haven't studied Calc 1 concepts since the Summer, lazy faggot and don't want to wake up that early. What do?

I have until today to make my decision.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 22:54:48 UTC No. 16573643

>>16573621
I should make note of the fact that the professor teaching the rigorlicious course doesn't really teach during lecture. He assigns pages to read from the manuscript of the book he's writing which are to be read before the corresponding class session. It's pretty much self study. He uses class time to answer any questions we might have had regarding the assigned reading. I've self studied before, but I'm not as quick with it as compared to just sitting in lecture, having the important points taught, and then absorbing everything without much effort on my part other than perhaps a bit of review later down the line when an exam comes up.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 23:14:47 UTC No. 16573656

>>16573621
You'll only get an actual rigorous glimpse into Calculus in general when you take your analysis course battery.
If I were you, I'd pick the most convenient option and start studying analysis.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 00:44:14 UTC No. 16573709

>>16573621
>>16573643
I think that's actually quite a good way to learn, I'd approach it like I'm gonna read the manuscript, try some problems and ask him for help with missing intuition, the logic behind how he would approach problems.

I think doing a more rigourous course earlier, providing you are ready for it and there's really only one way to find out, is a good idea because you'll have more practice of mathematical thinking and problem solving as opposed to just plugging and chugging which won't help you much in pure math.

Additionally you know you can always just go to this guy's office and ask him, the squeaky wheel gets the oil you have to be shameless in asking for things in this bitch of an earth

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 00:45:49 UTC No. 16573710

>>16573656
Heh... So foolish... he will be better prepared for the travails of analysis if he has already spent time learning how to properly approach mathematics

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 02:48:03 UTC No. 16573788

>>16571632
Would a MS in Materials Engineering be enough to get a gig in a high energy physics or semi conductors lab?
I don't want to be a 55 year old chinaman's bitch boy for 4 years getting a phd

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 06:29:38 UTC No. 16573948

Should I do the MBA cope or the MS cope?

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 06:35:46 UTC No. 16573949

>>16571908
because they can't get physics jobs with just a b.s. so they settle for engineering jobs that will train them. They git gud because they have a solid grasp on the fundamentals underlying all engineering disciplines

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:04:52 UTC No. 16574349

They are psychologically extruding me into a thin paste on X the everything app. It's possible you have contributed to my torture by "liking" a meme about the work I was enslaved into doing.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 17:22:03 UTC No. 16574433

Coming to the end of my EE degree and I’ve become autistically obsessed with Nanoelectronics. Are there any jobs in it or is it just the realm of research at the moment? I’m doing my MS next year but I can’t imagine spending another 3-4 years as a starving PhD student with shaky postdoctoral prospects after that.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 18:11:27 UTC No. 16574466

You know you are in rough shape when you start thinking that life in prison would represent a greater degree of freedom than your current life.

I would be so good at pointless psychosexual violence as it is all I have ever known.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 18:26:07 UTC No. 16574481

>>16571908
Physics majors are higher IQ and have better math skills.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 18:49:28 UTC No. 16574504

>>16574433
What do you mean? Electronics at the nano scale have existed for decades.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 23:09:03 UTC No. 16574854

Any TAs here?
I've worked the past 2 semesters as a TA in engineering, grading homework/tests and teaching weekly recitations. I've noticed something kind of interesting. The men tend to turn in complete garbage for homework assignments, often incomplete and hastily written like they just scribbled something down at the last possible second to get partial credit, but then tend to do pretty well on the exams. Meanwhile the girls turn in meticulously written homeworks that get excellent marks but then they totally bomb the exams. I pointed out this trend to the professor and he found it disturbing since his theory is that homework should reinforce knowledge in preparation for the exams. The sex divide is stark though. Is it really as simple as the girls being more conscientious but just dumber? Have any other TAs here noticed something similar?

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 23:42:58 UTC No. 16574881

>>16574854
Homework has been proven useless decades ago to their point where it has been completely abolished in several countries. Hilarious that people with no background in educational sciences are considered to be good teachers

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 00:12:38 UTC No. 16574899

>>16573948
Go for MBA if you're Ashkenazi/Brahmin/female and underprivileged.
Go for MSc if you're Chinese/white.
Go for either (or neither) if you're not one of the above.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 02:50:33 UTC No. 16575011

Field engineering is actually pretty dope. I don’t have much in the way of paperwork deliverables, it’s mostly emails and phone calls and driving around from site to site. The money is pretty tits too.

I realized they pay me the amount they do because most white collar guys with any credentials don’t want to wake up at 4 am to be on a jobsite at 6 am and go home at 5 pm, all while possibly standing around in 30 F degree weather and dealing with a bunch of surly tradesmen.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 03:40:08 UTC No. 16575038

>>16574481

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 05:10:32 UTC No. 16575073

>>16574881
>educational sciences
You can't be serious.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 11:09:47 UTC No. 16575236

>>16574854
That is my experience as well. Even more obvious in oral examination. Ask a male student what a supremum is and he will say an minimum upper bound. Ask a female student and she will talk for 30 minutes about her sexual orientation.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 14:10:40 UTC No. 16575361

How are Ireland and Scotland's universities for a math graduate program? Are they competitive (as in difficult to enter) and are they any good?

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 20:05:14 UTC No. 16575610

>>16575361
I had the best years of my life doing an informatics masters degree in Edinburgh. I now work with someone who studied mathematics there and he liked it so much he moved back. It is the best place I have ever lived.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 20:28:08 UTC No. 16575641

>>16575610
Thanks for the input, anon.
I've researched a bit about Edinburgh university, seems like a plausible option for me at first glance.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 20:37:01 UTC No. 16575655

>>16575641
I think Glasgeeeew, Edinburgh and St. Andrews are all well respected (at least in the uk, and my experience is that scottish unis are more highly recognised abroad than most english unis outside of imperal/ox/camb).

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 20:45:27 UTC No. 16575664

Sorry Mom, I can't get a job: I have a tragic and mythopoetic worldview.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 07:53:06 UTC No. 16576191

I need to write a personal statement for my grad school application. Are there any effective copes I can use to explain away my horrific undergrad transcript, which spans across 10 years, includes 2 flunk outs, and includes numerous Ds in my core junior/senior level classes?
It would seem almost impossible to be admitted but I think they're just happy to have any money at all flowing into the program (it's for an online MS) and I am an alumnus.
In the past I've used the "I was a working poor" excuse but that isn't really a good cope in this situation since I will be working while taking the classes.
I'm objective enough to realize that, if we're being honest, I'm just not grad school material, but I have to at least try before writing it off. Really the only reason I want the degree is because it shaves off 2 years of experience to get the next job grade.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 10:58:11 UTC No. 16576290

>>16576191
Unironically write the truth. You are more goal oriented now and more mature. You will give it some sincere efforts etc.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 18:23:47 UTC No. 16576618

>>16576290
The truth is my performance suffered dramatically because I was an alcoholic and addicted to gooning.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 19:02:43 UTC No. 16576658

Im depressed about not getting a postdoc. Really dont understand why I were denied everywhere. Low prestige school and being a white man didnt help.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 19:23:47 UTC No. 16576685

>>16576658
If you are in the US it might be due to the fact that your research sector is currently being destroyed by being frozen out of public grants.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:01:59 UTC No. 16576755

Why is there higher rate of male baldness in STEM men compared to other intellectual professions? Higher androgen receptivity increases ability of critical thinking? Or is it about other professions caring more about their image and taking drugs for it?

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 01:28:37 UTC No. 16576949

>>16576755
A lot of guys in STEM are incel and are trying to degreemaxx to cope.

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 01:59:10 UTC No. 16576963

are there any STEM careers where I can realistically contribute whilst being of absolutely mediocre intellect, or is that just unrealistic

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 04:22:59 UTC No. 16577062

>>16576658
>being a white man didnt help
cope

>>16576685
This. The future of scientific research in the US is bleak. NSF and NIH are likely to functionally cease to exist within the year.

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 04:44:29 UTC No. 16577068

Is an honours bachelors degree in Pharmaceutical Science completely worthless or should I be more optimistic

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 05:50:02 UTC No. 16577111

>>16576963
Engineering

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 09:28:32 UTC No. 16577263

>>16571908
they literally all become data scientists
They only really perform well in niche new fields that havent really matured, people argue about Dijkstra or Lamport but forget that back then, literally no one else but them were working on their problems.
Nowadays physicists cant find shit in their own field because all the low hanging fruits are gone so they flock to machine learning conferences instead and just reapply techniques theyve learned in their class to ML problems to look smart, but at the end of the day, CS grads doing empirical shit make better papers. Remember the KAN paper craze? How are KANs doing? Everyone was glazing the theory like crazy but turns out the models are unusable in real life scenarios, so at the end of the day we are still doing empirically developed AI models and it wont change anytime soon.

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 09:36:47 UTC No. 16577274

Any PI or otherwise people who have been in a grad school admission commitee?
I come from Europe (ETH) and took a physics minor for my masters (major in EECS). Ive never done any physics otherwise and my gpa is about 5.25/6, my specialization (EE) is 5.5, but my physics grades (bunch of atomic, statistical and quantum stuff) put a huge dent on my transcript, some professors argue that picking a harder field for my minor is going to compensate for lower grades, others argue I shot myself in the foot and I should have just gone for CS classes and rack up 6s as admission comittees use GPA as a hard filter because they're too lazy for actual holistic reviews.
I really think I could reach good schools like Caltech and move to the US, but now Im not so sure.

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:25:11 UTC No. 16577314

>>16576963
You could be a wonderful lab tech.
The ones who are/think they are smart and are bitter about "only" being a lab tech are no fun. The ones who are happy just fucking around in the lab without the stress of grants and shit are worth their weight in gold.
Don't think it pays amazingly though.

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 13:25:15 UTC No. 16577420

BS math from no name SLAC, now working as SW dev for big name DoD contractor.
Personally I want to pursue an MS in math. In terms of ROI, I suspect a masters in data science, CS, or any other meme is possibly better. I also get the feeling that being passionate about a field like math is better than following the money for something I am currently working in but don't really give a shit about, as that is how I obtained this position, as CSlets cannot into formal algo development among other things.

What would you do? I could do math at JHU or Columbia, pretty confident I could get in. Employer has a program in place with Umich for their data science program which would possibly be more direct promotions.....

I have little professional experience, you guys seem to know a lot, please advise!

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 18:45:41 UTC No. 16577708

>>16576963
Many engineers are not particularly bright and do just fine

>>16577314
It's a cool job but as you mention the pay is bad and I don't know that there is much career progression to be expected. Additionally it's a power dynamic a bit like doctors and nurses. Being treated as a second-class person (not by everyone but you'd be surprised) is not nice.

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 21:01:21 UTC No. 16577798

>>16577708
>power dynamic
Oh yes.

Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 22:24:25 UTC No. 16577894

I live in a mid-sized town, stuying STEM and just had my contract extended for another 6 months as a working student (2.5 days a week), the pay and work atmosphere are great (research division in automotive) however the exact technology I am working with is something I am personally not that convinced of or interested in (it's not the work itself that is boring) and I feel like I am cornering myself if I stay in this domaine.

However, in the bigger neighboring city there is a research institute doing stuff that I am very interested in photovaltics/materials science and experience from there (for 6 months for example) might allow me to break into other areas such a semiconductors (since PV is basically semiconductor electronics) later but it would mean a 2h commute (one way) and likely a 20% paycut.

What do? Focus on the money and give up on the delusional thought that there is work you can be passionate for?

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 07:37:09 UTC No. 16578206

Is it possible to get a job in embedded systems programming without knowing how to implement FFT? I know what a Fourier transform is and I can calculate one by hand, but I've got no idea how to actually implement one as a computer algorithm.
For the record, I once tried spending like a week wrapping my mind around the CORDIC algorithm, and took nearly a week just to figure out how to wire a microcontroller to an LCD display. My IQ is 104 (very low).

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 12:49:01 UTC No. 16578356

>>16578206
Just look it up on wikipedia

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 15:39:09 UTC No. 16578483

Moving to japan soon for a phd with only an eight year old gaming laptop and a phone to my name. Should I get just a tablet or start pc building the minute I land

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 19:11:58 UTC No. 16578674

Just got my first grad school acceptance (Auburn, physics)!
By chance anyone there? Do you like/dislike it? Planning on going to the visit but that's not until March.

>>16576191
Explain why. I flunked out of college (engineering) my first go round, and then swapped to physics and did much better.
D's in upper div courses is really bad though, don't know if you can fix that.
Also if you're still applying when people are expecting responses I assume you're looking at next year or...?

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 20:40:57 UTC No. 16578768

I shouldn't have done my PhD in Canada, I should have just gone to the states.

I hate myself and feel like I will never amount to anything

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:55:51 UTC No. 16578840

>>16578206
>Is it possible to get a job in embedded systems programming without knowing how to implement FFT?
Sure. I did embedded programming for a few years. It was plenty of assembly programming and developing algoritms but I never used FFT. In many cases you can find application notes on FFT for most processors and save yourself from reimplementing it.

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:58:06 UTC No. 16578842

>>16578483
>Should I get just a tablet or start pc building the minute I land
Why? I would expect the university to provide some tools.
And have you started Japanese language classes yet? A friend of mine did a PhD in Japan and enrolled in a super intensive course before he got there.

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 23:12:17 UTC No. 16578963

>>16578483
Enrolling in a course is kinda a waste. 90% of your learning will be done through pure immersion once you get the basics down through self study.

T. Lived in Japan for a year

Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 23:15:10 UTC No. 16578968

Why the fuck does being a construction manager pay way more than being an actual design engineer? I have almost zero deliverables, I get paid way more to stand around a job site babysitting contractors than I ever did as a stamping engineer doing design. What the fuck bros?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 02:13:22 UTC No. 16579095

>>16578674
>D's in upper div courses is really bad though, don't know if you can fix that.
Yeah that's my main concern, it's probably over. It's the same school I did my undergrad in so I'm just imagining a panel of professors who's classes I took looking at these Ds and realizing exactly how retarded I am since it was their classes.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 02:36:40 UTC No. 16579112

>>16579095
There's zero chance you're getting in then, unless you're literally fucking one of them or something.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 02:40:25 UTC No. 16579115

>>16578768
What was I thinking
I'm gonna be the best ever.
No more dooming

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 03:16:30 UTC No. 16579132

Seems like I finally probably got a job after almost 2.5 years. Really cool place to work for too.
I had an “Intro” call with HR yesterday where he welcomed me and said they were excited to bring me on board. Just one more call with the person who is going to tell me about benefits and salary.
Lately I have come to know what it really means to be depressed.
I know there are a few other people here having a hard time finding work too. Don’t give up lads. Try to make contact with people in your field who went to your college or that you’ve known in the past. Even if you’ve never met before. Just say you’re trying to find the right place to work and are wondering what they think of their company and if they’re hiring. Eventually someone WILL help you if you’re polite. You can even be autistic and most people will still be nice to you

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 06:18:06 UTC No. 16579211

>>16574481
>Higher IQ
No.
>Better at math
Usually.

The highest IQ's don't bother going to college. I mentored a kid that got his pilots license at 17 and he's not even 20 yet and already getting into real-estate. He'll be a millionaire before He's 30 with zero college degree while you're still working for someone else maybe making six figures.

t. retired at 37

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 08:00:47 UTC No. 16579259

>>16578842
It's for personal use, not that I don't expect them to give me something but I'm not really sure what I'd get at an energy engineering phd
>>16578963
I'm N4 certified but they're making me take a 200 hour intensive course yeah but I wonder if I can bow out early once I've had enough.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 13:34:31 UTC No. 16579399

I am a late bloomer and started a STEM degree in my late 20s. Right now I am working two days a week for a large company that is roughly situated in my field, basically technician tier but ad part of the research division at least and I am planning to switch after a year for more experience. I am right to assume that I will never get a good job if I don't keep working until my graduation date in my early 30s, yes? Or is it already over?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:01:10 UTC No. 16579408

Starting a serious project at a big dick lab next week, and I have 0 lab work experience outside of the mandatory lab practicals required for my degree.
How do I not fuck up?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:05:37 UTC No. 16579411

>>16579408
Make notes for everything, ask other students and technicians how things work, say you are not sure, that you didn't have this as part of your course or that the machines were a bit different.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:16:28 UTC No. 16579416

Does anyone here work at big 4 + Accenture?
Whenever I apply to them they like to call me in for an interview to see what a who studied science but applies for business jobs looks like.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 16:40:37 UTC No. 16579498

>>16573948
I dont think an MBA unless from a top 10 program actually helps engineers in their career

i see so many engineers with MBA's and a lot of them are working midwit intermediate jobs being bossed by people with only undergrad or less

An MS is respectable in its own right as you need to do a research-based thesis. You'll actually learn something and have something to show for it.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 16:58:02 UTC No. 16579509

>>16578968
you probably weren't a partner back when you were design engineer. That's when the money rolls in

yeah construction pays more on average, but do you really want to be shitting in a jiffy john at 50 on a wet winter's day contemplating your life decisions?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 17:41:10 UTC No. 16579541

Guys, what I can do with an MSc in numerical mathematics, some idea of physics (but not something I would like to focus on), some deep learning experience, some HPC experience and decent understanding of parallel programming with MPI and CUDA?
I am too junior for the big tech/AI companies. And I do not think I am good enough to be a quant dev either.
I currently work at a research institute, but the pay is really bad and its contract based so I want out ASAP.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 17:51:16 UTC No. 16579553

>>16579541
Get some certs and then apply for entry level data analyst positions

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 17:57:42 UTC No. 16579560

>>16579553
get some aws or azure certs and apply for entry level shit?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 19:01:59 UTC No. 16579616

Am I an idiot for considering a master's degree?

I never really tried in undergrad. Well socially, academically I did fine, finished with a 3.9 GPA. I was the student that showed up to class and immediately retreated to his dorm to complete assignments, never really engaged with professors outside of class hours, networked, etc. And after years of underemployment I've become all to aware of "It's not what you know it's who you know" as the ruling principle of the economy.

I'm basically asking if a masters is worth it solely for social/networkmaxxing?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 19:05:13 UTC No. 16579617

>>16579616
absolutely not

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 19:49:43 UTC No. 16579633

>>16579112
Damn. It feels weird that I'm just locked out of degree progression forever and there's literally nothing I can do but oh well.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:10:44 UTC No. 16579641

>>16579560
Yes.

You understand that you have 0 years of work experience yes?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:21:55 UTC No. 16579658

>>16579399
I'll be starting my PhD later this year at 28, finishing my bachelor's at 27. It's never over.
What a good job entails is what matters. If you wanted to climb the career ladder and be a face in control of the entire lab, it's probably not going to happen. Ask yourself what job you want, and how your current one helps it. Experience only matters if it's relevant. I'd guess your work experience isn't relevant for what you want to do--otherwise why would you need a degree? So if you can afford it, it's probably fine to drop your job.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:26:47 UTC No. 16579665

>>16579633
I mean getting a D isn't even enough to graduate for major courses at my school.
You could possibly retake courses and get a better grade then go to grad school, but I'd do it at a different college.
By getting those poor grades you showed the professors you were either too stupid or unmotivated to do well, so why would they want to pay you to work under them? Why would they think anything had changed, that you would somehow turn into some star student/employee? Even if you're not doing research, if you struggled that badly (for whatever reason) in undergrad, they're very justified in thinking you'd fail to complete graduate courses.
It's like showing up to a sports team tryout, fucking around and performing really poorly, then saying "damn it's weird that I'm locked out of playing on the varsity team now."

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:10:53 UTC No. 16579765

>>16579641
so basically do whatever every single person in every field of study is doing?
every single person from biologists to physicists is doing azure certifications and applying to data entry jobs

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:13:24 UTC No. 16579766

I was going to go back to university for a PhD but it didn't happen, now I'm stuck being a total loser making 90k a year at 30 and my career is going in the right direction so I can't justify making 50k as a PhD student. I can't take the pay cut to go back for a PhD.

My professor said I'm probably not going to be promoted to a leadership position without a PhD so I'm resigning myself to a life of mediocrity

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:29:16 UTC No. 16579781

>>16579766
there's really no reason you can't take the pay cut
but crying about making 90k is not so convincing anyway

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:30:31 UTC No. 16579782

>>16579765
The dude with Bachelor's degree in biology a power BI cert and an intership at a pharma company writing dashboards is currently dunking on you when it comes to employability. Maybe it's start to shutting up learning to be humble? You have zero work experience or at least a cert to compansate for that and just a degree, wow congratulations.

When will you people learn that there are no entry level jobs in disciplines relating to Data except for being a Data analyst dashboard monkey, lmao.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:31:33 UTC No. 16579783

>>16579766
Just do an industry PhD

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 23:36:20 UTC No. 16579820

Anyone here done a second bachelor's in engineering during their late 20s?

Was always a good student and went to a top school, but picked a completely unemployable major (math).

Currently teaching high school, trying to get into engineering so I can make more than 60k for the rest of my life.

It just seems so strange going back to college for another BS sitting in class with kids who are as young as my current students.

Anyone with experience in this?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:01:26 UTC No. 16579832

>get chem PhD
>entry level QC that only needs a bachelor's or 5 years industry experience required
I'm just gonna NEET until my mom dies, this was all a waste of time.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:08:19 UTC No. 16579835

>>16578963
I've lived in Japan for 4 years and am basically at N4 level. You don't have to learn shit, someone will just help you if you really need it. You have go out of your way to learn it, it doesn't come naturally.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:22:56 UTC No. 16579844

>>16579259
I did N4 and N3 back when there were only 4 levels, and even with those it was not trivial to communicate with people.

>>16578963
>done through pure immersion
AKA getting a Japanese girlfriend. Without, you have to study hard. You can learn the kana in a few weeks but Kanji takes a lot more time.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:25:54 UTC No. 16579846

>>16573621
>tl;dr I want to study Mathematics--more interested in Pure Mathematics rather than Applied
That is essentially advanced unemployability. We just concluded a long series of doom posting from a maths graduate who took a LONG time to get a job.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:33:07 UTC No. 16579851

>>16579832
What was your field? Organic Chem? Analytics?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:49:22 UTC No. 16579861

>>16579783
yes I will try to do that it's my only option.

but it's not "JUST" something you can just do, everyone needs to be aligned.

>>16579781
Yeah I agree, 90k including bonuses is not much for a 30 year old.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 02:02:27 UTC No. 16579900

>>16579665
>It's like showing up to a sports team tryout, fucking around and performing really poorly, then saying "damn it's weird that I'm locked out of playing on the varsity team now."
It's not the same since you could just try out again, but transcripts are permanent.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 02:22:14 UTC No. 16579917

>>16576658
being a white male should help now since the entire system has changed overnight.
everyone ended diversity and inclusion.

open LinkedIn and you'll see only white people getting hired while everyone else is getting fired. The recent executive orders by the president have ended diversity worldwide.

If you don't get an interview in the next 2 weeks, I'd eat a burger

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 02:47:55 UTC No. 16579930

>>16579900
Like I said, you can retake courses and 'try out' again. It's just you're paying a lot of money to do so, and it's not like anyone forgets your failure the first time. You had an extremely expensive process to show you were worth this and fucked it up, but you're not permanently locked out, it's just expensive to try again. And you have to really ask yourself if it's worth it, since graduate degrees typically aren't even a good financial decision in the first place.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 07:13:46 UTC No. 16580051

>Graduate high school in 2010 into tail of recession
>Go to school, take 5 years for engineering because internships lol
>Decide to I want to make money instead of doing what I love and research and go into resource extraction industry
>Resource industry collapses in 2016
>Dance between a bunch of shitty jobs until 2019, finally decide to go back to school
>Covid crashes everything down, don't end up starting till 2022
>Finally starting to do what I love and wishing I had started a decade ago
>Government axing science funding, entire field about to collapse

I don't know what I was expecting finally having hope in my life.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 07:50:26 UTC No. 16580071

>>16579861
>Yeah I agree, 90k including bonuses is not much for a 30 year old.
it's not a huge amount, but it might be more effective to deal with the psychological insecurity than to change the salary

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 10:37:07 UTC No. 16580163

Anybody in EE had a company sponsor their PhD? Just wondering what the experience is like. I'm very interested in semiconductor related research, and my university has had a few companies sponsor PhDs which result in a job at their R&D department after graduating. The positions sort of appear at random though so it's hard to plan ahead for them

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:58:09 UTC No. 16580315

>>16580163
but they look at their grades

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 14:04:42 UTC No. 16580322

>>16578963
dont take this anons advice at face value, Ive worked in Japan and most engineering firms that are international will be partially or fully english speaking, and japanese people dont talk to strangers at all so you will almost never actually practice.
You have to go out of your way to learn japanese, if you dont, you will be a forever N4, if you do, you can very much reach N2 in a year of serious studying.
If after 2 years you still didnt get your N2 then youve pretty much never really tried hard enough and you probably havent made a single japanese friend, its fine, but its also a bit sad to live in another country only to cut yourself off from its society.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 15:00:46 UTC No. 16580368

>>16580322
what if you get a japanese girlfriend and then go to japanese blowjob bars very often, will you learn japanese more quickly?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 15:26:40 UTC No. 16580392

>>16576755
I have actual work to do, I don't really care about my hair and get it cut like a military man anyway

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 17:15:48 UTC No. 16580449

I am glad I got a math PhD. They are pretty rare.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 17:50:04 UTC No. 16580473

>>16579132
>after almost 2.5 years.
How the fuck did you end up with such a massive gap?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 18:12:25 UTC No. 16580497

I want to work at an university!! Not some gay engineering firm. I got the PhD, publications, teaching experience, courses in teaching and learning, letters of recommendations, excellent student evaluations, teaching award, 10 page statement of teaching philosophy, dei statement, research plan, thesis supervision experience, outreach activities. Why is it so insanely difficult to teach in higher education?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 19:04:22 UTC No. 16580534

The more I think about it the more I feel that a mathematics degree is the art degree of STEM.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 20:03:04 UTC No. 16580570

>>16580449
A congratulations is always in order.
Now, what is next? Maths degrees have gone from 300k salaries for sure to long term unemployability.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:16:48 UTC No. 16580641

Does there exist a career that exists at the intersection of mechanical engineering, computer science, and space that lets you work with cool technology?

How do you get there?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:31:59 UTC No. 16580660

>>16580570
but if he does get a job, he will be on track to become a CEO or director, PhD Leaders only hire PhDs.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:13:16 UTC No. 16580690

>>16580641
You could join the astronaut corps.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:22:14 UTC No. 16580698

>>16580497
1) It's very competitive
2) They expect you to be fluent in English

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:32:05 UTC No. 16580707

I'm in grad school for physics. I want to work in defense and make weapons. What do I need to do to make that happen for myself?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:35:25 UTC No. 16580711

>>16580690
Do they actually do engineering?
I thought they were just like, satellite image techs or something.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 23:42:50 UTC No. 16580759

>>16580473
I got laid off in September 22, and then decided to finish my Masters degree without seriously looking for work. By the time even by the one year mark when I had my first phone screen I realized the HR women don’t care what you were doing, if they see you don’t currently have a job it’s basically an instant no. Twice in 2024 I went through a two month interview process and got dumped at the very last minute.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 04:57:50 UTC No. 16580977

It's so funny to me how employers have started tailoring their job ads to appeal to millennial and zoomer narcissism.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 05:27:56 UTC No. 16580996

>>16580977
What's really funny is how overselling jobs like this can cause employees to become disappointed with a company.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 08:54:00 UTC No. 16581113

It's so brutal realizing that my transcript is so embarrassing that I can never apply to grad school and that I'm permanently locked out of the system.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 11:23:17 UTC No. 16581176

>>16580711
They have to know how much of the stuff works and I think they also have to get a pilot license. The crew that lands on Mars will have to know a lot about a lot in order to survive.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 11:38:43 UTC No. 16581183

I'm going to blame all my problems on my traumatic childhood and there is nothing you can do to stop me.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:23:32 UTC No. 16581364

>>16580977
This sounds pretty cool though. Too bad China is already dominating battery tech.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 16:10:32 UTC No. 16581435

>>16581364
It sounds like it was written by a 52 year old fag hag.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:57:45 UTC No. 16581634

>>16580660
>PhD Leaders only hire PhDs.
That is not my experience. I guess the pool of applicants gets too small by that criteria.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:59:00 UTC No. 16581639

>>16580711
One of the recent US astronaut intakes was full of people with good degrees but strangely also front line war experience. The Martians have no idea what is coming to them.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:00:17 UTC No. 16581640

So the worm turns:
>LinkedIn to tell job seekers how likely they are to get a response
https://archive.is/6VUSo
>More than 14 million job seekers’ applications went completely ignored in a single quarter last year, according to one hiring platform. Now, sites like Greenhouse and LinkedIn are experimenting with new ways to hold companies accountable for making the hiring process so miserable for applicants.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:36:16 UTC No. 16581689

>>16581640
>Applying directly through LinkedIn

Do people unironically do this? I thought you were supposed to check out the offers at linkedin and then go on the company's website and then apply there, they same way you would use third party flight websites.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:26:03 UTC No. 16581929

>>16571632
phd student bros...
we learned today our research group is being dissolved
we thought we'd lose "at most" our technician and secretary to the university reorganization (retarded budgeting), but no, our one and only professor and supervisor too

we're very active in terms of research and are in multiple research projects involving great companies, but from what I've heard the only thing bean counters are looking at now is education, specifically bachelor courses ("masters don't really count") and of course with one overloaded aging professor we're not doing much of those borderline useless classes

we have basically no idea how any of this is going to go, and HR/admin doesn't either
my brain refuses to accept this as true information, constantly have to remind myself it's actually happening

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 23:45:29 UTC No. 16581992

>>16581929
Mcgill?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 00:42:15 UTC No. 16582027

>applied to Microsoft internship in November
>radio silence until last weeks Monday
>interview 1 on Wednesday: the guy basically showed what they are working on and at the end asked if I'm interested
>"y-y-yes"
>today second interview with a professor who works there
>skimmed his papers and lecture notes today, which I used to ask questions
>the guy basically yapped for an hour about his research
>no leetcode questions
>no real technical questions
>said they will send offer letter this week if I get chosen
>salary $6500-12500 in the posting, at the Microsoft HQ
wtf

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 02:27:10 UTC No. 16582075

>>16580977
>Potential equity participation
Fuck you, pay me.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 02:44:09 UTC No. 16582091

>>16581639
Military experience is HIGHLY preferred for astronauts because the willingness to follow orders is very valuable.
One of the big (potential) problems is astronauts just not doing what they're supposed to. Once they're up there, it's really hard to get them to comply if they don't want to, and even if they never go up again that's a massive loss in the investment. They want people who do what they're told, not ones who decide to extend a spacewalk to stare at the Earth or who take extra days off because they didn't feel like working that day.

>>16581929
Field? Is it from the DEI pauses or something else? I know a few people who are fucked because their program is funded by a DEI grant and honestly I hope they crash out because of it. They didn't deserve to be there in the first place.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 04:22:17 UTC No. 16582155

>>16582027
have fun quiting in 2 years

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 07:51:52 UTC No. 16582256

>>16582091
Nobody deserves to endure gradschool, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 10:06:07 UTC No. 16582337

>>16581992
>>16582091
I'm in yurop, it has no relation to burger DEI at all. Just government restricting funds for unis, universities discovering they mismanaged enormous amounts of money, then deciding to heavily sacrifice research for education.
A quarter of the staff is to be fired.
I'm in physics (optics). As I said, most of our funding comes from projects with companies, but these projects work in a way that this money does not pass through the university whatsoever, which would inflate the numbers for beancounting, so they're probably also mad about that.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:41:53 UTC No. 16582518

>>16582091
>One of the big (potential) problems is astronauts just not doing what they're supposed to. Once they're up there, it's really hard to get them to comply if they don't want to, and even if they never go up again that's a massive loss in the investment.
I can see that, and the first astronauts had test pilot rxperience. It is the battlefield experience that I find concerning.
>They want people who do what they're told, not ones who decide to extend a spacewalk to stare at the Earth or who take extra days off because they didn't feel like working that day.
That sounds like experience as a desperate postdoc.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:54:43 UTC No. 16582663

I have a BS in math, a minor in stats. A Coursera Google certificate for 'advanced data analytics'. Also a certificate for Andrew Ng's ML course. I know some programming (was a CS major).
What is the 'best' industry right now for someone with my skill set to enter? Best taken to mean some combination of how good the job market is, and how hard "getting your foot in the door" is, and pay.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:27:20 UTC No. 16582709

>>16582663
how long ago did you get the BS?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:07:19 UTC No. 16582768

>>16581113
There are a lot of places in Europe that will take anyone

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:09:03 UTC No. 16582772

>>16582663
Phd in statistics is probably your best bet

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:11:31 UTC No. 16582777

>>16582709
1 year ago

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:28:50 UTC No. 16582797

>>16581929
Aren't they required to teach you out?

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:30:07 UTC No. 16582799

I feel suicidal.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:41:12 UTC No. 16582809

>>16582256
Why? I'm looking at offers now trying to decide between schools and waiting for a few more decisions to come back.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:41:39 UTC No. 16582810

>>16582797
Kinda. Before all this they told everyone that PhD students in dissolved groups would be transferred to an "appropriate" supervisor. There's basically no one good enough in these particular subjects, and even if they found a guy, it would involve endless and potentially impossible bureaucracy to re-do the project agreements, since there are NDAs and my supervisor leads the project. It involves multiple universities, half a dozen companies and some national funding bodies.
We're hoping the funding bodies pressure the university to stop being retarded. A sensible plan would have been to tell us to stop making more projects and dissolve when the current ones end, but they did this instead.
For now we have to be very careful about HR, and lawyer up asap.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:55:10 UTC No. 16582819

>>16582809
Bad for your men's mental health mate, the mentals get bad.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:56:11 UTC No. 16582820

It's a crime that this countries premier educational facilities overlooked a sweetie pie genius like myself, but it's ok, I forgive them.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:31:14 UTC No. 16582852

>>16582819
Because of the pay, work/life balance, or...?
You've not explained at all other than saying "It's bad" again.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:39:40 UTC No. 16582855

>>16581113
I finished my BS with basically exactly a 3.0 and got into a Grad school that is good enough that people say "oh that's a good school" when I tell them where I got it from. They don't really care if you get a high enough score on the GRE

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:54:03 UTC No. 16582972

>>16582852
Listen asshole if you need me to hold your hand and do the fucking research for you how do you ever expect to get a PhD? Jesus Christ.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:06:27 UTC No. 16582984

>>16582852
The pay is shit because it's a stipend, not a salary. If your PI has no funding, you will have to teach too, because then the college pays you.
Work/life balance is abysmal, I remember having to come work in the weekends and holidays. You neglect your social life, hobbies, and recreation. If it's really bad, your fitness and health take a toll. Since you're in STEM, expect to die alone as well and possibly poor.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:32:43 UTC No. 16583021

>>16582984
I'm only a semester in but I'll still take it over doing tech support again.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:59:50 UTC No. 16583070

>>16582855
My total GPA across all institutions was 2.96.
But my GPA for the college I got my degree from was 2.56.
Even worse, my GPA for my core major classes was exactly 2.0. I made 4 Ds in upper division core classes. I graduated on a technicality, I think my college even changed the official rules for graduation requirements after I escaped with my degree.
It's so over. I could probably get a good GRE score since I'm good at gaming standardized tests, but the carnage of my transcript will never be overlooked.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:02:36 UTC No. 16583073

>>16582855
>>16583070
Also they said the GRE is not required for admittance so they probably don't care about it much.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:36:23 UTC No. 16583117

>>16582810
My PhD supervisor quit/got booted out for fucking a student early into my second year. His students were transferred to other PIs who generally did not know or care about the research. The funding stopped and suddenly there was no money for conferences or anything else, the only reason I got paid was that I had old emails where my funding specifics were agreed upon in writing that I could use to fight with admin.

Covid happened a few months after so everyone had bigger issues anyway.

I got out with a PhD but it pretty much killed my academic career before it even began. Basically I was my own PI and most senior lab member from midway through the second year and it went about as well as you'd expect. The publication record was so-so, there was no way to follow up on projects, all collaborations died, I had zero conferences and so on. Did a postdoc trying to resuscitate my career but gave up after that ran into some headwinds as well.

So yeah, try to avoid that and if it does happen just face the music and go do something else.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:16:50 UTC No. 16583173

>>16583117
So what are you doing now? I'm trying to get a backup plan just in case this PhD thing doesn't work out.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:18:30 UTC No. 16583174

>>16582768
This. Move to Europe but keep American politics in America

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:25:54 UTC No. 16583184

>>16583117
Thanks for the advice. We're still very early in the process so we'll see how this pans out.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:30:23 UTC No. 16583194

Is it possible to just "become" a math professor at some university? Or do you need connections and social engineering?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:56:54 UTC No. 16583226

>>16583073
I actually took the GMAT, not the GRE. You might need to take that one, it was really easy.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:37:51 UTC No. 16583285

>>16582972
Believe it or not, a lot of people seem to enjoy it. All of the people I've spoken to in fact. And you have yet to list a single tangible complaint.

>>16582984
The offers I have all start with TAs for a year or two before you're moved to being paid as a research assistant, but it doesn't seem awful. I know it takes a lot of time, and that is a concern but I don't see how STEM is somehow going to result in dying poor. The whole point was to make more money, otherwise I'd have kept working my menial job. Every metric I've seen shows that at worst grad degrees are a wash if you drop out with a Masters quickly in terms of pay. At least if you're willing to work for the private industry, not trying to be an academic.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 02:16:06 UTC No. 16583310

>>16577111
>>16577708
i was told growing up engineers had to be smart, or is that only for the highest end curve of engineering gigs?

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 02:31:22 UTC No. 16583320

>>16583310
desu it's just completely incorrect
I think a 100 IQ individual could be an absolutely unremarkable engineer

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:18:39 UTC No. 16583511

>>16583285
What kind of fucking retards are you talking to. In fact don't tell me and never respond to one of my posts again.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:20:06 UTC No. 16583512

>>16582972
High iq post desu, I cannot count the number of people who have wasted time and worsened their mental from doing ill-advised STEM PhDs. Not to mention the countless ones who have been pyschicallt abused by effective altruists in bizarre humiliation rituals.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:35:42 UTC No. 16583514

My highest ambition was to be an accessory in someone else's career search at a large AI lab and doing a PhD made that a reality. So it's not all bad. Maybe once the paper I spent every weekend for the past 4 months working on and after I had the worst panic attack anyones ever experienced defending. I'll be qualified to scrub the fucking toilets at (((BIG NAME AI STARTUP))) while my coauthor (who did the square root of fuck all) enjoys the success that my white trash upbringing has so cruelly denied me.

This is your brain on a PhD you smug pig fuck

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:37:50 UTC No. 16583515

It's not all that bad I got to go to a conference centre and relive childhood socialisation traumas and get really nasty thin ill-fitting t shirts from the careers booths.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:45:24 UTC No. 16583519

>>16583515
Can you send me one please?

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:52:03 UTC No. 16583524

>>16583519
I've used them all as greasy rags but sure send me your address and some money for shipping and I'll get them right to you fedex

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 13:57:47 UTC No. 16583642

I still have the water bottles I got from price water coopers after getting rejected after the interview.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:17:46 UTC No. 16583690

does taking graduate courses in undergrad looks good when i apply for a grad school? I don't really have anything other than few scholarships and my gpa. mfs publshing papers in undergrad in journals like acs, prb, prl like it's nothing how do i even compete with them

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:47:18 UTC No. 16583712

>>16583690
You are better of taking some English language courses before thinking about taking graduate courses dude

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:55:02 UTC No. 16583722

>>16583712
but i dont want to learn this stupid ass language

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:00:56 UTC No. 16583731

>>16583690
I took a graduate course as an undergrad but then I got a C so it ended up being a massive humiliation.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:51:21 UTC No. 16583778

Not from the US but two years after your first job no one cares about crap like the name of your Bachelor's/Master's thesis or your grades/gpa. Is it the same over there?

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:06:31 UTC No. 16583796

Got rejected in the third interview round for a scientific intership at a very prestigious semi-conductor multinational in the city over which I would have commuted to. Despite my lab and instruments experience they told me that I lack specific experience with semi-conductors outside of some supplementary college courses I took.

Problem is now I don't know how I could make up for that other than getting a working student job at this scientific institute researching photovoltaics. PV is basically semiconductor work, right? Do you think this would allow me to compensate for my lack of experience so I could apply again within a year? Problem is this would mean an effective paycut compared to my current student ob.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:30:24 UTC No. 16583812

What STEM degree specifically has the worst effort to reward ratio you think? I. e. it's hard as fuck as well as challenging and compared to other degrees it doesn't necessarily even come with good job prospects. My vote would go to the chemistry major

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:53:16 UTC No. 16583829

>>16571632
DON'T DO IT ANON STAY AWAY STEM CAREER IS A MEME YOU WILL BE JOBLESS STAY AWAY

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:05:44 UTC No. 16583841

>>16583812
Math might be a close second. Really any of the more "academic" oriented majors have a low reward for extraordinary effort.
I remember a time when I was torn between choosing engineering or physics I have a way of consistently choosing the worst possible set of actions to fuck myself over but in this case I chose engineering and I'm so glad I did. Fuck academia.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:32:37 UTC No. 16583853

>>16583174
Wdym?

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:01:11 UTC No. 16583877

>>16583514
AI PhDs are a dime a dozen. Unless you have really respected conference papers published, good luck.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:04:01 UTC No. 16583883

>>16582768
PhDs in Europe are terrible experiences, though.
Funding is directly tied to your supervisor and he has all power over you.
And guess, what?
The only supervisors who have to hire somebody from abroad are the ones who are so terrible that none of their master students want to work with them.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:24:49 UTC No. 16583895

Government funding for UK PhDs has been cut drastically so my PI has started taking on Saudi PhD students because the Saudi government pays for everything

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:57:16 UTC No. 16583922

Whatever you do, don't work in utilities. What a fucking nightmare. It's amazing that we even have electricity at all.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 21:11:37 UTC No. 16583993

>>16583877
No, unfortunately it looks like my paper will be hated, just like it's first author. I wasn't plugged into the effective altruist trans polyamory house mafia.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:00:23 UTC No. 16584087

>>16582091
>not ones who decide to extend a spacewalk to stare at the Earth

That’s exactly what Ed White did and he was an Airforce Officer. They don’t want military because they follow orders, it’s because they remain collected in life or death situations and effortlessly move through a technical procedure with complete muscle memory.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:05:45 UTC No. 16584093

>>16583922
Public or Private? Private side is dope, good ass money for sitting in my comfy work truck sending status reports and making phone calls to contractors.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:06:22 UTC No. 16584095

>>16582091
>Military experience is HIGHLY preferred for astronauts because the willingness to follow orders is very valuable.

This is bullshit. After the ISS strike they stopped putting military up there because they all are advsnturist hardasses and running experiments 16 hours a day bores them to death. That's why they went with scientists instead from the on and until now.

t-shirt buying anon !!Ri9TpUhkIv1 at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:22:16 UTC No. 16584105

>>16583524
Tell you what, give one or two a good wash and you've got yourself a deal, send a picture of it first though

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 00:26:08 UTC No. 16584140

>>16584093
Public. It's so brutal.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 00:28:03 UTC No. 16584144

>>16584140
scientifically speaking it is literally so over

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 01:10:07 UTC No. 16584183

>>16583778
Yes, so long as you stay within whatever specialty you started as a job. If you want to do a major change they'll glance at your degree, but not the GPA.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 01:13:05 UTC No. 16584187

>>16583812
Bachelor's? Math. You can't really get the big rewards on math until graduate level, and while undergrad isn't super hard it is significantly harder than the other majors that have much better job prospects.
Chemistry has great job prospects I don't know why you think it's bad. Unless you meant you didn't want to take a soul crushing pharma job, in which case literally what is the point of chemistry? That's the entire field.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 08:55:52 UTC No. 16584463

>>16584187
>Chemistry has great job prospects I don't know why you think it's bad

Total bullshit. You seem to confuse chemistry with chemical engineering. A Chem major below a PhD is considered useless. Even for lab tech roles employers will prefer workers that have been to vocational/trade schools instead of college grads. Don't lecture me on my own field.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 09:01:52 UTC No. 16584466

Fraunhofer
Helmholtz
Max Planck
Leibniz

Which institute should I pick?

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 09:10:44 UTC No. 16584473

>>16584466
Bouncer turned me away at Helmholtz but they've always got banging tunes at Fraunhofer mate. Bloody Nordic tunes.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 09:19:16 UTC No. 16584478

>>16584105
I lied mate, I've kept them in pristine condition. Here's one with a funny slogan and inexplicably feminine arm holes.

When I saw this one I flew into a completely inexplicable rage haha

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 09:20:20 UTC No. 16584479

>>16584478

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 13:46:33 UTC No. 16584741

American BSc:
>120 credits in 4 years
EuroGOD BSc:
>180 credits in 3 years

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 18:45:25 UTC No. 16584971

>>16584741
Your retarded ECTS system means that translates to 6 hours of study time a day per semester and that includes lectures/labs. And how Eurotards define “study” time is intentionally vague.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 18:55:04 UTC No. 16584979

>>16584971
Germans know how to work

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 19:53:06 UTC No. 16585044

>>16584979
>>16584979
lol bullshit. Euros barely have any assignments or projects. You don’t even have to attend lectures. Your grade is almost entirely some one shot final that you can game by studying previous years exams or getting hints from upper classmen. It encourages laziness and procrastination.

The American credit system works out to 3 hours a day of JUST lectures and labs. Total study time isn’t calculated or considered. Because of this, our professors have free rein to hammer their students with time sucking assignments and projects. Euros can’t/don’t do this because it’s all about “total study time”.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:29:30 UTC No. 16585070

Some mixed news here
>Are PhDs losing their lustre? Why fewer students are enrolling in doctoral degrees
https://archive.is/3ZtAs
>Numbers of people enrolling in PhD programmes have dropped in a handful of countries in the past few years, which policy specialists are calling a worrying trend. From Australia and Japan to Brazil and the United Kingdom, there are concerns that high living costs, low stipends and limited job options after graduation are deterring people from pursuing doctoral degrees.

So it might be getting easier to enter a PhD program, which is unexpected as mor people return to do a PhD during times of financial troubles. And are job opportunities getting more scarce? It is not clear if that is in academia or in industry.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:15:29 UTC No. 16585163

>>16585044
Time sucking assignments that have little to no academic value like homework in high school.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:16:30 UTC No. 16585165

>>16585070
>which is unexpected as mor people return to do a PhD during times of financial troubles

lolwat

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:20:22 UTC No. 16585172

>Grades and exams in the US
Because of curving I only got a B- for this course, please professor let me write a chatgpt bullshit essay to get an A

>Grades and exams in EU
50% of you failed the exam, 30 got a D and only two people got an A. Those who failed this exam a third time will be expelled and barred from studying this major or related ones for the rest of their lives.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:29:44 UTC No. 16585190

>>16585163
>academic value
word salad

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:32:00 UTC No. 16585193

>>16585172
I have a German friend who went to a prestigious German university. He failed an exam 3 times and the last step before flunking out was an "oral examination" where he just went to the professor's office and was asked about concepts related to the class. They passed him and that was it. I really don't know why Euros pretend their university system is so hardcore. The American university system is absolutely full of retards but there is plenty of leniency in the Euro system.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 23:33:17 UTC No. 16585271

>actual retard applied for a PhD in another country
>average grade thought bachelor and master is always around half (10/20)
why would you even

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 00:14:36 UTC No. 16585300

>>16585271
>thought
throughout*

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 01:04:00 UTC No. 16585341

>>16585193
It's just normal ego stroking.
The reality is that outside of the highest tier of foreign universities American ones are preferred domestically, although European ones tend to be highly specialized which can be good if you actually stick to that specialization--but most don't.
Additionally, there's likely zero name recognition and a foreign degree will be looked down upon by hirers unless it's from a massive place like Oxford, where it'll probably be seen as equivalent to a random American one, like the big local state school. I'd expect this to be swapped in Europe, but since America is the financially attractive place to live most people are trying to enter it not leave.
Also, in many fields foreigners have abysmal pass rates for standardized tests, like in medicine. As a result their education is considered worthless, regardless of if it's harder or even better in reality.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 01:40:53 UTC No. 16585359

anyone successfully moved from consulting to simply technical writing / tech publications? fuckin done with consulting, ten years.
>environmental science / geo / hydro

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 04:49:04 UTC No. 16585444

>>16585172
I've spent my share of time in Northwest Europe. You people are not nearly in the same league of people as you all talk yourselves up to be.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 06:31:27 UTC No. 16585509

>>16585172
>>16585044

Did my degree in Cambridge. Grades were around 80% final exams. Finals for all courses of the year were within a one-two week period at the beginning of summer. No retakes, extremely time-constrained exams, curved meticulously, 70% was the cutoff for a top grade.

Extremely stressful and unpleasant. Did many of my exams sleep-deprived because of stress. I'm glad I never have to sit an exam again.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 07:31:13 UTC No. 16585530

>>16585509
No you didn't

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 07:32:49 UTC No. 16585533

>>16585070
Enrolling doesn't equal applying and before you ask no I did not read the article go fuck yourself.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 15:10:51 UTC No. 16585764

>>16585172
>europoors are proud of having artificial difficulty

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 15:48:35 UTC No. 16585793

>>16585172
>europoors proud of artificial difficulty

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 16:54:37 UTC No. 16585835

Can you get a job from knowing MCMC, SMC and other inference methods or am I doomed for my crime of wanting to do something PRINCIPLED instead of slop it up in AI?

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:03:41 UTC No. 16585843

Do you need a PhD to become an Optical Engineer or is an MS with optics-focused research good enough?

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:33:04 UTC No. 16585866

>>16585843
A bachelor's is enough, I don't know why you think you'd need a graduate degree.
Unless you want to be a PI or something.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 19:02:38 UTC No. 16585932

>Engineers are in high demand, jobs want you!
What they don't proceed to say is that this is only for the most boring, niche sectors of engineering, anything interesting is already taken.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 19:28:48 UTC No. 16585951

>>16585932
The case for literally all industries is that passion projects are paid less. If it's fun, you need less incentive to do it.
It's obvious and self-evident.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 21:14:50 UTC No. 16586038

>>16585932
what they're really talking about is supply chain management and software engineering.
all the geologists, biomedical engineers, physicists, and economists go into IT, and not even soft IT they become javascript and c# programmers. They do hardcore programming.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 01:38:21 UTC No. 16586230

>>16585932
>I don’t get my dream job out of college!!

Whiny little cunts that don’t think they have to pay some dues. You all fancy yourselves to be Tony Stark or some shit.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:31:29 UTC No. 16586499

>>16585843
depends whether you want to work at Luxottica or Zeiss, lel

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:53:23 UTC No. 16586517

>>16585193
He apparently didn't tell you that you can only do that once for your entire degree. How easy that oral examination is also depends on your professor.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:57:09 UTC No. 16586519

>>16585193
>where he just went to the professor's office and was asked about concepts related to the class

So that's literally another exam? He failed 3 times and had to do a fourth oral exam or otherwise he would have been out? What's your point again?

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:58:12 UTC No. 16586521

>>16585764
>>16585793
"Artificial difficulty" as you call it is just a standard systematic way of having the students learn from their mistakes...

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 11:46:12 UTC No. 16586547

>>16586499
Worse things I could be doing with a EE degree than making glasses

>>16585866
I've barely learned about optics during my Bachelor's, just the basics about making lasers, optical comms and lithography. MSEE goes much deeper into it. From job listings it seems like companies want an MS at the minimum too. But I can't be bothered for a PhD unless a company pays for it and gives me a job after

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:43:32 UTC No. 16586578

During my student job I realized a actually like repetitive lab work, running tests and verifications, filling out spread cheats etc.

Is 25 too late to get an autism diagnosis.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 13:03:37 UTC No. 16586593

>>16586578
that's not much of an indicator but you can do this test if you like https://embrace-autism.com/raads-r/
even if you are autistic though it's not like a diagnosis leads to any treatment so there's not a lot of point imo

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 19:55:51 UTC No. 16587071

>>16586547
>From job listings it seems like companies want an MS at the minimum too.
Have you gotten a job before? Even unrelated to your field?
One misconception I see a lot of young people have is that the 'requirements' and 'recommended' skills/qualifications are actually that. The requirements are more like the desires, and the recommended like a bonus. If it says MS/Ph.D. you're probably underqualified, but if it says just MS it's worth applying if you like the resto f the listing.
No idea where you live, but I was able to find plenty of applicable listings in less than five minutes on Indeed for California. They even mention only needing a BS, many specifying EE being preferred. If you're not willing to move, then you may not be able to be an optical engineer regardless of education or expertise level.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 23:11:58 UTC No. 16587337

engineers are to scientists what technicians are to engineers
know your place

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 00:15:43 UTC No. 16587392

>>16586519
I'll spell it out for you since you're too stupid to understand on your own.
The point is that it obviously wasn't an actual exam, it was a friendly chat about the syllabus.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 00:15:46 UTC No. 16587393

>>16587337
I made an AI generated caste system for the races.
If a stemcel tries to find jobs outside his designated caste, he's going to struggle.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:08:21 UTC No. 16587477

>>16587392
So your friend had a one time oral exam and a friendly professor gave him a last minute pass so years of study wouldn't go to waste since otherwise he would be completely banned from his studies?

How does this sound better? How is this in any way comparable to the rampant fraud, grade inflation bullshit present in the American system?

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:37:19 UTC No. 16587500

>>16587477
>How is this in any way comparable to the rampant fraud, grade inflation bullshit present in the American system?
It's literally the exact same thing; you get banned from studies if your GPA is too low

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:38:39 UTC No. 16587503

>>16587500
You can banned from every single US university?

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:46:34 UTC No. 16587512

>>16587503
Legally, no. Effectively, yes. You get declared "Ineligible to Reregister", meaning you can't register for courses at that school without appealing the decision. In order to take courses at another school you would have to apply for a transfer, but having that mark on your transcript makes you extremely unattractive, as you've already failed. Your only option is to go to a community college that doesn't turn away anyone, but they typically only offer lower division undergrad courses. This means that you can't make up the bad grades, you'd have to take years of unrelated courses just to get your overall GPA up, and then pray that you could successfully transfer elsewhere. But, since they'll see your transcript has only lower division courses and they aren't even related to your major, they'll still deny you in most cases.
Depending on the specific institution, they may also not distinguish if you were declared Ineligible to Reregister because of academic probation failures (bad grades), or for another reason (criminal activity/academic dishonesty). The latter are basically going to prevent you from going anywhere, including community colleges.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 11:02:10 UTC No. 16587763

>>16587392
You are wrong. It's still an actual exam. There are plenty of people who fail it. And again, you can only do that once in your major.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:38:59 UTC No. 16589423

Should I continue being mentored by the genius engineer/founder of my branch of the company as an A S.-let technician and potentially become the next him, or should I try to maneuver into a sales engineer position like the GM has been kinda hinting at? I'm in the process of becoming the engineer's CAD monkey at the moment

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:44:30 UTC No. 16589428

>>16586593
>it's not like a diagnosis leads to any treatment so there's not a lot of point imo
legally you're disabled, which means employers will have a hard time firing you and you get to park in handicap spaces. It's like being a king

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:48:52 UTC No. 16589430

>>16583796
photovoltaics sounds like diodes, which would be semiconductors. I say give it a shot, and read up on semis in your spare time while you do. The fact you care enough about them to come back later with more XP says something imo, and it should to them as well

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:51:53 UTC No. 16589432

>>16584463
>A Chem major below a PhD is considered useless. Even for lab tech roles employers will prefer workers that have been to vocational/trade schools instead of college grads. Don't lecture me on my own field.
this is a common theme in techical jobs. I'm in electronics and all the industry vets say that college types don't adapt well. What we really need is for apprenticeships to come back

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:00:21 UTC No. 16589437

>>16580707
Learn electronics and programming, from a hands-on POV. Those will make you very valuable as an engineer

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 20:39:20 UTC No. 16589519

How do you cope with having been forced out of academia?

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 21:14:38 UTC No. 16589548

>>16573621
Majoring in math is generally a bad idea unless you're at an elite university and can break into finance, consulting or software engineering on your pedigree alone. Math at Princeton is a strong signal, math at like, Alabama, is a non-signal. If you're doing calculus *in college*, and didn't already learn it all in HS, you're probably at a university where majoring in math is a bad idea. Assuming you're in the US here.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:01:14 UTC No. 16589585

>>16589519
With ease. I have a comfy job in industry with job security and a nice salary, all the things I never had as a postdoc.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:02:02 UTC No. 16589586

>>16589519
I went for the money and now I can't get back, but it's ok

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:11:42 UTC No. 16589596

>>16589519
Couldn't care less. Science and engineering is great, but academia is a fucking disaster.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:13:36 UTC No. 16589600

>>16589585
300k a year?

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:11:16 UTC No. 16589674

>>16589600
100k salary plus profit sharing that can exceed 300k but is not guaranteed.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:14:53 UTC No. 16589675

>>16589674
I only make 80k plus a bonus of 10k that's not guaranteed but then again I'm european so I'm expected to be poor.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 00:13:41 UTC No. 16589713

>tfw i make $200k a year because I’m a white collar dude that can handle getting up at 5am every day and standing around a jobsite in 30 F weather for 10 hours a day.

I don’t really do anything. I have no deliverables, no direct reports. I just have to baby sit retarded contractors and push the invoice button if they do their job right. This is so surreal considering I started out at some A&E firm grinding design packages for 60 hours a week.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 00:15:03 UTC No. 16589714

>>16589713
it's nice to be american

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 01:24:26 UTC No. 16589744

>>16589713
Being a slavemaster is profitable, we get it.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:20:05 UTC No. 16589826

>>16589744
>>16589744
All the guys I work with are union. The senior dudes make more than I do when you consider OT and per diem. Hardly call what I do being a slave master.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 07:10:37 UTC No. 16589906

>>16585193
Also German here and I am training in public administration. Paper exams are hard but profs always tell you even if you screw up you can still easily compensate it with oral exams and holding powerpoint presentations lol. And ofc obligatory never be sick / miss classes.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 11:42:08 UTC No. 16590065

How do you bring up the question of salary/allowance/stipend/whatever with a new PI? I'm already getting my gibs since this is a goverment program but I kinda want to see how much he's willing to give (dude is an eleven if that matters)

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:19:24 UTC No. 16590199

>>16571632

I have a Math MSc and I am basically unemployable. I was aiming for a job in either numerical mathematics, maybe with application to deep learning tools. I like parallel programming and optimization type work.
However after many a disappointing job search I found out that pretty much every job of that nature only hires seasoned seniors or requires some kind of highly prestigious education/publication record. And I have neither of those.
Currently I am working at a very low repute lab doing something related to HPC and CUDA, but it's only a stopgap. In a few months the contract will end and I will be unemployed and wholly unsuitable for any kind of job.
I don't know where it all went so south for me. I think, maybe its the fact of being born in this shithole continent called Europe and realizing only after my MSc, that pretty much all jobs worth shit in my field are in the US. And somehow nobody told me all along the way.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:39:18 UTC No. 16590221

>>16590199
I can relate. At least you didn't spend 6 years post-msc getting a math PhD and teaching courses for cheap bux. Get a second master in CS?

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:44:29 UTC No. 16590226

>>16590199
>nobody told me all along the way.
The purpose of a degree is to show that you are disciplined enough to conform to the demands of a mediocre office job. No one is expected to contribute anything to any academic field.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:25:35 UTC No. 16590279

I have a math BA summa cum laude from a top 20. I am teaching high school. It sucks, basically taking abuse from dumb jocks all day, the kind of kids who bullied me when I was in high school. It has completely destroyed me psychologically.

I have a literally perfect GRE score (340/340) but almost all master's programs are like "we don't even look at that shit anymore because DEI."

Here are my options:
- MS in EE at a top 30 eng. school (they let me in with no undergrad EE classes)
- MS in Math at a 60ish ranked school
- MS in CS at a 80ish ranked school
-Take another year of abuse in teaching and apply to "data science" MS programs at Ivy League Schools
-Another year of abuse and go to law school even though I hate it and would hate the career (got a 177/180 on LSAT which qualifies me for top 5 school).

Please help. Can you point out any of these ideas that seem totally retarded? Maybe the 60 ranked math MS?

I regret every single day majoring in math. I should have gone to engineering school from the beginning but I fear it is too late to go back.

Universities that let people waste their intellect on majors like math when that student has no intention of a research career in math are engaging in criminal behavior. It is a lie that employers value "quantitative skills" broadly. There is no job that values a math undergraduate over a CS, Eng, Econ, or Finance graduate. If you major in math you will be teaching high school and will have to claw your way into a real career.

As my standardized test scores show I have an elite IQ (tested at 145 on 3 professional tests over a span of a decade) and the end result is that I get stuff thrown at me (literally) by dumb jocks all day as I try to explain to them how to add -3 + 8 = 5.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:46:54 UTC No. 16590321

>>16590279
Go into EE. It gives you the necessary insight to make it in the AI world that is coming up. Print this post and put it on your fridge. Thank me in two weeks.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:47:38 UTC No. 16590322

>>16590279
A genius level iq and yet he's here asking a guy who spent his childhood in special ed for advice... Isn't it so curious how the worm turns...

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:53:07 UTC No. 16590330

>>16590322
I have no doubt that all of my students including those who cannot add and subtract positive and negative integers will be more successful than me for the simple reason that 0 of the skills we are asking these kids to develop in school actually have any application or value in the workplace. I think that has been the most demoralizing part of being a teacher, learning that my entire childhood was a lie.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:17:27 UTC No. 16590350

>>16590279
>Here are my options:
>- MS in EE at a top 30 eng. school (they let me in with no undergrad EE classes)
good idea, I agree with >>16590321
>- MS in Math at a 60ish ranked school
That is a degree in advanced unemployability these days. The floor fell out of that job market.
>- MS in CS at a 80ish ranked school
CS is a slave ship job market where you will be chewed out and ejected when you reach 40. It is as bad as teaching in high school.
>-Take another year of abuse in teaching and apply to "data science" MS programs at Ivy League Schools
Data Science is at the top of the hype cycle, if not already in decline.
>-Another year of abuse and go to law school even though I hate it and would hate the career (got a 177/180 on LSAT which qualifies me for top 5 school).
If law school is interesting, start with EE and do law to become a patent attorney.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:53:38 UTC No. 16590392

>>16590330
I'm just joshing you man I had to recover my ruined life from a maths undergrad too, I now work in AI like the other guy said so we'll see who has the last laugh when all the jobs get automated...

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:54:24 UTC No. 16590394

>>16590279
Since you have a 150 IQ and perfect grades why not become a quant trader? Entrance interviews are basically an IQ test.
Another option would be non-US schools like the Cambridge Tripos grad program that is very well regarded.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:08:12 UTC No. 16590419

PhD in physics

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:13:30 UTC No. 16590426

>>16590279
>graduates some kinda cum lord
>surprised when he has to suck dick for a living

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:23:31 UTC No. 16590445

>>16590279
If you allow High School Kids to bully you, you won't last a second in a real work place.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:36:35 UTC No. 16590457

>>16590445
t. NEET guy living in his mom's basement

Discipline is non existent in schools in 2024 so I just have to take it. You can ask them not to be disrespectful but it does nothing without a consequence. If you raise your voice at them you get reprimanded. You can call parents but 9 times out of 10 they are not supportive of you and see no problem with the brat's behavior. It's you who wouldn't last a second in this workplace.

>>16590350
>>16590321
Yeah I'm going to look into the EE option more fully. Seems like the most versatile.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:04:51 UTC No. 16590491

>>16589906
>I am training in public administration

So you are not a university student, nor studying STEM, so you have no idea what you are talking about.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:07:12 UTC No. 16590493

>>16590199
>I don't know where it all went so south for me.

Being a retard who thought that Data roles such such as those in Deep Learning or ML have entry level jobs, lmao. Get a fucking data anaylist job jesus, then transition to data engineering and then maybe then you could get something in deep learning or something.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:54:06 UTC No. 16590532

Get a PhD in special education

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:26:47 UTC No. 16590562

>>16590491
Correct. That doesn't rule out me going to uni afterwards. I've always enjoyed doing (organometallic) chemistry and am still considering it but studying jurisprudence will very likely yield me better paying job prospects but it isn't as fun.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:56:17 UTC No. 16590768

>go to college to learn engineering
>the early engineering courses (intro and math) are both easy
>spend 95% of my time reading history books for required diversity classes
This first semester is going to be a pain

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:19:24 UTC No. 16590791

>>16590768
history and ethics are both fun, though, only uncultured swine would think otherwise,
as somebody from a Yuropeen uni without any non-STEM classes in our majors I wish we had something like that

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:23:44 UTC No. 16590864

>>16590768
Heaven forfend you have to grapple with some history. Grow up and never post this shit ever again in this thread.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:37:04 UTC No. 16590883

>>16590768
I'm an engineering but studying MEng was boring as fuck and the non-STEM classes were the highlight of my uni days and where I also met my now wife.
I would also much rather study history than engineering, although I love doing engineering more than whatever historians do.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:52:44 UTC No. 16590900

>>16590279
>math BA
lol
lmao
you deserve everything and worse

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:57:54 UTC No. 16591031

Is it possible to learn engineering in a foreign language ?

Planning to join KU LEUEVN but I only speak B2 level dutch, how tough it is going be anons ?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:51:50 UTC No. 16591096

>>16572982
I got the full experience during my 6 month internship / thesis so I'm glad I dodged the hard and difficult shit for a comfy job where I just create dashboards and do some back end / database development.

>>16590493
They have but the pay is atrocious (at least in my country, Netherlands). A data analyst is actually likely to make more in my country than a ML engineer / data scientist. I think like 3 years ago I got an offer from Deloitte for like 3.4k a month for a job that had me work on explainable artificial intelligence models (something I did my thesis on). What the client(s) wanted was genuinely quite difficult to implement, it was 40 hours a week and the pay was just shit. I got an offer at the time from a big bank for 5.5k to create dashboards and write some SQL. Ofc I went with that. I now make 80k eur gross a year on 36 hrs/ week ( in reality 20).

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 05:28:22 UTC No. 16591113

whatsup bros. i made a deesqword server loaded with STEM textbooks. still a work in progress but hopefully this can help some people.
https://discord.gg/XHqYWBAQ

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 11:52:05 UTC No. 16591345

>>16571632
I did my Bachelor and Master in MechE in Germany and want to do a PhD in Germany. But do all the lectures I took during the studies had to be directly related to the subfield of MechE I want to pursue a PhD? I took 5 directly related, 3 closely related but 4 unrelated courses. Some shit relevant to software engineering in case I become jobless and have to go through the code monkey route. My thesis and internships etc. are also directly related to the PhD position I want to apply for. My gpa is 3.8-3.9 something in american system.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:06:04 UTC No. 16591356

>>16591345
And?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:44:00 UTC No. 16591404

>>16590394
He can't become a quant trader from only a T20 especially after he's fallen off the prestige career track by teaching highschool. Those firms trash resumes from all but a handful of super-elite universities.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:58:51 UTC No. 16591419

>>16590279
Your problem is that you weren't thinking about how to get a decent career during college - you should've been preparing a pivot to CS if you already knew you didn't want to do a PhD in pure math, so you should've been doing internships at tech companies each summer, building a project portfolio, grinding leetcode, and doing CS classes alongside math. Now you're even more fucked because the software engineering job market isn't great, and as I said in >>16591404, you've lost some of the prestige your alma mater gave you by teaching HS.

I would probably do the EE MS even though MS's are basically never prestigious in the US - but at least it'll give you a chance to take some CS classes at the same time, start building a coding portfolio, grinding leetcode etc. If you can't break into CS, electrical engineering isn't awful pay-wise. It's pretty boring for a math major, but it's better than teaching literal retards, I'm sure.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 14:21:07 UTC No. 16591432

>>16591404
Not true. I know people from no name unis who got in.
The interview process is like 7 rounds of different IQ tests and then basic probs and stats and shit.
They care way more about your raw IQ than anything else.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:34:57 UTC No. 16591478

>>16591419
You are absolutely right.

My only concern is that EE masters with Math BA (and not EE BA) is going to look strange.

Math BA --> CS MS looks like more of a natural/common transition, even though the job market is complete horse shit.

Is that an accurate read?

>>16591432
I think if I wanted to get into quant I would do a MS QF. There are a number of those programs that would probably let me in. Then that resets the prestige factor and I have access to their career fair to weasel my way in. These programs however are like 99% Chinese and I have no idea why.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:36:03 UTC No. 16591479

>>16591478
Meant to say EE BS.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:51:41 UTC No. 16591498

>>16591478
>These programs however are like 99% Chinese and I have no idea why.

Because those are the kind of jobs that are 100% IQ and skill and 0% soft skills i.e. being tall and handsome.

I am in another niche, but it is also like this. Almost everyone is Chinese. Because it is a hard NERD field where you cannot fake it by being tall and rizzing the HR cutie.

If you are on the other hand both high IQ and tall and handsome you would go for a more high prestige job.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:00:56 UTC No. 16591511

>>16591432
It really depends on which places you apply to, I've seen places that only want to take competitive math contest people, but it's incredibly competitive and challenging in any case.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:14:21 UTC No. 16591525

>>16591345
Is CS really more prestige than EE? I would say that the reverse is true in Europe.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:40:20 UTC No. 16591552

>>16591525
Same in Asia. That's why all IT guys or programmers have the work title of 'Engineer' at Samsung. IT is still stigmatized.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:43:56 UTC No. 16591558

Test

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:09:07 UTC No. 16591638

Is a masters in quantum information a bad idea if you don't want to work in academia?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:14:53 UTC No. 16591642

>>16591638
Not a bad idea if secure a job at one of these quantum grift startups.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:18:05 UTC No. 16591646

>>16591642
yeah, but quantum computers don't exist today, and they probably won't exist for decades. can I still get a job on the field or should I look for another masters?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:24:56 UTC No. 16591653

>>16591638
>>16591642
Quantum grift gets to you. I know many disillusioned QC PhDs who are sad that they specialized in a field they don't believe is feasible of producing anything of value.
But then again, it's not that different from being a mathematician or a mathematical physicist.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:59:40 UTC No. 16591754

>>16591646
Well what do you consider to be 'the field'? Quantum sensing and metrology for example are actual disciplines that have actual actual real-world applications but they are more like subfields of Electrical Engineering.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 20:47:19 UTC No. 16591793

I've been looking in the MD/PHD process and having a hard time understanding what the advantage is job wise. Getting a standard 80/20 split has been very difficult since the 90's, and it's improbable to start up your own lab without having more than 70% protected time. So what exactly do MD PHDS do if they fail to get a grant and start up their own research lab? Do they go 100% clinical, and if not what does a 50% and below research output look like? Is the whole thing just a scam like regular academia?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 23:06:36 UTC No. 16591938

I live in central Europe for a highly specialized tech manufacturing company. While there are some PhDs in the more technical departments the overwhelming majority of the leads and managers is comprised of people with non-PhD degrees that have worked at the company for years, sometimes even done a dual-study track there while the company tends to hire PhD primarily for sales roles, even from unrelated fields because customers love it when they get to talk to a Dr. sales rep.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 23:06:56 UTC No. 16591939

why don't they create a racial quota system so you have to be white so you can do engineering?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 23:08:42 UTC No. 16591940

>>16591939
why would you establish a quota system for the race that's only at 3rd place in Engineering? Isn't this dei?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 23:43:53 UTC No. 16591964

>>16591939
because mayo ass timmies like yourself complain too much

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 00:05:39 UTC No. 16591973

>>16591940
Historically it's the only race that loves building stuff.

The asians made way less forts and what forts they did/do make were weak and prone to crumbling. Don't trust the races that fill up engineering but are actually bad at it.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 01:18:34 UTC No. 16592030

>>16591939
Whites are a fallen race, this isn't the 1700s. Go back to posting BBC porn and speaking in ebonics, that's what your race is known for now.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 09:58:18 UTC No. 16592401

>>16591973
What happened historically is of no importance to the present.
What I see in the present are the Chinese and a few Eastern Europeans dominating the engineering fields I am knowledgeable about.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:32:16 UTC No. 16592756

Got the MSc, what happens now?

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:38:50 UTC No. 16592766

Should I commute 4h a day (total) for an internship at the electromobility research division of a German automotive company?

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:48:07 UTC No. 16592773

>>16592766
Germany's economy is a sinking ship. GTFO asap before shit gets really bad.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:55:05 UTC No. 16592780

>>16592756
PhD

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 15:28:01 UTC No. 16592819

>>16592773
Germany is an industrial country.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 15:46:54 UTC No. 16592843

>>16592819
was*

Germany is finished. It has no 21st century industry and all its 20th century industry is not competitive anymore. It's over.
What competitive advantage does Germany have, anymore? None. All German industry is literally shipping itself to the US East Coast.
You think Germany is going to survive on manufacturing washing machines and toaster ovens in 2025?

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 05:18:55 UTC No. 16594448

>>16591113
is it possible for you to share this on a pastebin or something that doesn't require an account?