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Anonymous No. 16587560

>dood philosophy is heckin dead! don't you know we have SOIENCE™ to explain the universe?!
>uhh uhhh well akshually we made a bunch of bullshit up to scam the tax payers
OH NO NO NO SOIENCE SISTERS

Anonymous No. 16587585

>>16587560
It's over. Science is dead.

Anonymous No. 16587586

name 1 (one) [a single fucking thing] that philosophy has done to improve the human condition

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Cult of Passion No. 16587590

>>16587586
>PhD stands for Doctor of Philosophy and is considered the highest postgraduate achievement you can earn.

Anonymous No. 16587703

>>16587590
legacy reasons

Anonymous No. 16587711

>>16587703
legacy of making shit up to sound profound? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shFUDPqVmTg

Nihilism is the only philosophical thought that's profound, and its profoundness lies in simplicity of rejecting everything, and saying
>it's all fucking made up, nothing matters, do whatever you want

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Anonymous No. 16587713

>>16587590
it's a Crystal Method song off their album Tweekend.

Anonymous No. 16587721

>>16587711
>>it's all fucking made up, nothing matters, do whatever you want
no that's cope and you trying to subvert reality.
>fuck everyone gonna fuck shit up
that's literal cope and seething on your weak ass part. also nobody cares you idiot

Anonymous No. 16587722

>>16587721
>figment of my imagination screeching that I won't listen to his neurotic nonsense

Anonymous No. 16587724

>>16587722
nobody cares about your temper tantrum

Anonymous No. 16587726

>>16587724
You're just a voice in my head, you don't exist. Seethe.

Anonymous No. 16587727

>>16587726
sure buddy. try that with food and water see how it works out for you

Anonymous No. 16587740

>>16587586
everything in philosophy improves the human condition
if you don't think about why you do what you do (i.e. philosophy) then you're an animal, a slave to instinct

Anonymous No. 16587742

>>16587740
>some philosophy can be useful
does not mean
>any philosophy can be useful

Anonymous No. 16587747

>>16587742
no one is asking for a logic lesson bratishka
if you have something meaningful to say go ahead

Anonymous No. 16587749

>>16587747
people use the fact that philosophy was and still is useful to shove in braindead retarded philosophical takes.
they're free to, not advocating to shut them up, just dont' cry when people shit on them

Anonymous No. 16587802

>>16587740
>he doesn't know philosophy is just yet another convoluted expression of instincts
You're always a slave to instincts because instincts is literally what you are. Philosophy is just agent detection, pattern seeking and other adaptations that were selected for because it made survival easier. Humans are animals, that's not up to argument, you're a multicellular, eukaryotic, heterotrophic organism with no cell walls that is or has been capable of locomotion on at least one of its developmental stages.

Anonymous No. 16587804

>>16587802
the act of doing philosophy can be animal but the ideas you produce are not a multicellular organism

Anonymous No. 16587811

>>16587802
the point really is that by for example being moral you have "improved the human condition"
it doesn't matter what animal means

Anonymous No. 16587842

>>16587802
>Philosophy is just agent detection, pattern seeking and other adaptations that were selected for because it made survival easier.
Philosophy is mapping all of that and by mapping we distance ourselves from what we are mapping and gain a little bit more agency than we would otherwise have and so we become a little less animalistic animals.

Anonymous No. 16587848

>>16587811
That's a very dangerous point. In reality. Only ruthless violence can truly improve human condition. Helping others is not only weakness of self, but weakness of us all. To bring back those who failed so hard that they would've died a thousand years ago, is to elevate and revere failure. The weak should have no choice but to fear the strong. Their only chance at life being hatred for weakness of self, and yearning to become strong. To overpower the strong, so you can be the one to ruthlessly abuse the weak. This cycle of violence must never end, because when it does, so will humanity.

Anonymous No. 16587851

>>16587842
You have no agency. Statistically speaking, you're only alive because others were retarded enough to keep you alive.

Anonymous No. 16587853

>>16587848
this poster is an example of how american education (its overemphasis on science without philosophy) has lowered the human education and produced something beast brained

Anonymous No. 16587856

>>16587853
Bird brains are often associated with "stupidity", but birds know the value of eugenics, and you don't. Your brain is literally worth less, than a pigeon's.

Anonymous No. 16587860

>>16587851
>you're only alive because others were retarded enough to keep you alive.
True. That's the human condition for everyone.

>You have no agency
There's stimulus and there's response. When there's no delay between stimulus and response one is said to be impulsive like a wild animal. Thinking however and inhibition in general creates a delay between stimulus and response with more possible outcomes even when selection of one of those outcomes is determines. Basically thinking and philosophy is the way in which the system feeds itself more data to calculate risk/benefits of possible decisions.

Anonymous No. 16587864

>>16587860
You never experienced a real stimulus. Also quickly thinking is how humans before us conquered the world. It wasn't impulsive either.

Barkon !8v8vr3ErDk No. 16587870

>>16587864
Sorry about your brain

Anonymous No. 16587871

>>16587864
>You never experienced a real stimulus.
What is the difference between a real and an unreal stimulus? I guess you mean like I haven't been surprised by a hungry bear in the woods yet forcing me to decide immediately and adequately unlike in the socially controlled environment where I spent most my life.

>Also quickly thinking is how humans before us conquered the world. It wasn't impulsive either.
I guess you're missing the nuance that warlords were raised and educated to become warlords from the day they were born. When you spent your time reading military history and fighting with wooden sticks against your big strong uncle instead of browsing 4chan you too may come up with a brilliant strategy out of the blue amidst a battle.

Anonymous No. 16587873

>>16587871
Real stimulus would make you understand that ruthless violence without thinking about morality at all, is the only moral choice.

Barkon !8v8vr3ErDk No. 16587874

Philosophy guides science, if we seriously invested in philosophy, there'd be no fake news media, there'd be no leftist con, there'd be no IQ con.

Anonymous No. 16587876

>>16587874
science is degenerate form of religion, religion is philosophy for midwits

Anonymous No. 16587881

>>16587873
>the only moral choice
An animal wants to maximize survival and reproduction points. Slaughtering a cow yields less survival and reproduction points than taking good care of the cow so you can milk her.

Barkon !8v8vr3ErDk No. 16587882

>>16587876
*Slaps you*
*Farts on you*

Barkon !8v8vr3ErDk No. 16587883

>>16587881
Milk me faggot

Taking care of a nice male you can milk heeds survival and reproductive points.

Anonymous No. 16587885

>>16587873
no it isn't, you're discarding everything else for that to make any fucking sense.

Anonymous No. 16587888

>>16587885
Everything else is also known as genetic waste, useless eaters, do you really think earth needs 8 billion people? Because I don't need 8 billion people, and neither do those who run this place.

Anonymous No. 16587890

>>16587883
So all you want to do is regurgitate social-darwinism, misanthropy and antinatalism without considering any possible criticism of such views?

Anonymous No. 16587891

>>16587890
The only criticism I accept is killing me.
Choosing to kill me, makes me correct.

Barkon !8v8vr3ErDk No. 16587894

>>16587891
Milk my farter

Anonymous No. 16587895

>>16587891
No killing is needed when no one adopts such views.

Anonymous No. 16587896

>>16587888
Earth doesn't "need" anything. it's only a power game. not sure how useful you are as compared to literally anyone else. what makes you so special to deserve to be on it? amaze us anon

Barkon !8v8vr3ErDk No. 16587897

Philosophy is coordinated thought, it should happen prior to any science. That's why the world is fucked up, we don't take philosophy seriously.

Anonymous No. 16587900

>>16587896
You'll find out when things go bad, you act like peace will last forever. I've been planning for the sad truth of human nature to show its face my entire life. I will not only survive, but I will be your executioner.

Anonymous No. 16587908

>>16587900
we all die in the end anon, you're fighting for scraps, few extra years, but leave nothing worthy behind. small minds, small solutions.

Anonymous No. 16587909

>>16587908
>we all will die in the end
so kill yourself RIGHT NOW, why do you struggle, faggot

Anonymous No. 16587910

>>16587909
you'll most probably get your head exploded like a melon by some drone or something lol.

Anonymous No. 16587913

>>16587900
if global shit goes down as in wars that elites use to thin the pleb you're in the wrong frame of mind. pleb will be put against pleb and they'll all be cleared eventually. doesn't matter how able you are. you aren't fighting against pleb, you'd be fighting against the elite. no amount of bootlicking will save you. this time it won't work like that. thus >>16587910

Anonymous No. 16587920

>>16587913
It will be pleb vs pleb, I will be killing plebs on my side and running away.

Anonymous No. 16587929

>>16587920
>running away.
that seems to be harder these days. have you even seen the ukraine videos on /pol/?
also wars are dangerous for the elites, pandemics make more sense to thin the lines. they get faster to everybody, like less than one year. you're not pulling that with wars.

Anonymous No. 16587930

>>16587929
That just means that I get to kill more plebs.

Anonymous No. 16587931

>>16587711
baby hasn't even taken philosophy 101 lol

Anonymous No. 16587932

>>16587930
so you are the elite's kamikaze dog? weird job description.

Anonymous No. 16587944

>>16587586
It eventually invented empiricism i.e. science. It also invented liberal democracy and representative republics so kings and shit got told to fuck off. Intangible value.

Anonymous No. 16587950

>>16587944
>invented
Your disrespecting the chicken-and-egg problem. Philosophy reflects the zeitgeist and dare I say no one in power ever changed his mind because he was convinced by a philosophical argument. Instead the reasons for historical changes like the practice of evidence-based medicine, the abolishment of slavery and the rise of democracy are cost/benefit calculations.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16588011

molest me

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Anonymous No. 16588521

>>16587950
egg was first. just look at dinos, snakes, and fish.

Anonymous No. 16589814

Owari da

Anonymous No. 16589821

>>16587586
Considering this is a board devoted to natural and analytic philosophy, and you're reading this post because of logical circuits, I think that's obvious

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Anonymous No. 16589916

>>16587560
>I can predict trends via prolonged observations
>I now know what is/isn't possible in the universe
Somebody had to keep these empiricist pseuds in check

Anonymous No. 16589926

>>16589916
I can predict that on average the temperature in June is going to be higher than in February and all you can do is dream of divine intervention to prove otherwise.

Anonymous No. 16589928

>>16589926
A wild nuke appears and June becomes a winter month. Gotcha scientists! You conveniently left that unpredictable uncertainty out of your self-confirmation biased weather prediction model. He who will never be a woman was right all along. I'm so defeated. I must concede to his/her big brain logic.

Anonymous No. 16589933

>>16589926
I would bet money on June been hotter than Feb.
But I would never claim Feb couldn't be hotter than June.
Learn the difference pseud.

Anonymous No. 16589945

>>16587560
Oh, is it that time of the year where philosophytards need to be shamed and humiliated in public again?

Anonymous No. 16589949

>>16587749
>just dont' cry when people shit on them
People can only shit on other people's ideas because of philosophy.

Anonymous No. 16589951

>>16589949
So much this. When you shit, you are doing philosophy. This anon did a big stinky philosophy in the toilet.

Anonymous No. 16589971

>>16589933
You unironically argue for Last Thursdayism.

Anonymous No. 16589980

>>16587586
It created economics and helped defeat communism.

Anonymous No. 16589996

>>16589971
>It's either muh materialism or da bible
Reality isn't so simple if you are not chugging one brand of koolaid or another.

Anonymous No. 16590027

>>16589996
It's not about materialism or da bible. It's about your fallacious reasoning. Nothing ever happens and still you go on about "you can't refute the possibility of happenings happening".

Anonymous No. 16590049

>>16589926
>divine intervention
Are volcanic eruptions divine?

Anonymous No. 16590058

>>16589928
>unpredictable uncertainty
Exactly, "unpredictable uncertainty" is how we found general relativity and quantum mechanics. These are useful models, but we have no way of knowing if they're universally correct

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Anonymous No. 16590171

>>16590027
>Stop spreading your fallacious reasoning!
>Nothing happened during my limit observations
>Therefore I can claim for sure the possibility of happenings is non-existent
Classic empiricist

Anonymous No. 16590254

>>16590171
Thanks to what you call classic empiricism my basement, unlike yours, is not full of toilet paper even after so many possible economic collapse scenarios. Each time you shat yourself about falling banks, life threatening viruses, power outages, natural disasters, civil unrest, nuclear weapons and what not I was living a carefree life of nothing ever happening. One day you will die and realize nothing happened after all because you see: your whole life is a limited observation, such a small scope through an already small window of time in a little sandbox that empiricism reigns supreme. You thinking outside that box is like studying the quantum mechanics of talking to a girl.

Anonymous No. 16590260

>>16590254
>t. will get -ACK'd before 2030

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Anonymous No. 16590281

>>16590260
Then screenshot and reupload when 2030 you player of a big wooden wind instrument.

Anonymous No. 16590311

>>16590254
>I can live carefree because of empiricism
What you are really saying is things had been good for you therefore you can stay afloat but if things starts to go bad and stay bad you tailspins down a negative spiral.
Your "carefreeness" is dependent on an external world of past experiences. You were never carefree.

Anonymous No. 16590341

>>16590311
I guess I really need to spell it out for you: everything is fake and gay. They are in control. They always have been in control and always will be in control. They can be relied upon to do everything in their power to keep the world from being spontaneous and authentic. They will never let anything happen but the illusion of change. The show must go on. Everyone must be kept busy solving sudokus on hamster wheels and as a reward receive currency that must be spent so that the currency flows back. We're born on a farm, we will die on the farm and the farm even includes an escape the farm game to keep everyone entertained in the meantime.

Anonymous No. 16590373

>>16590341
Careful, you are starting to tailspin.

Anonymous No. 16590388

>>16590281
Why do you have pictures of little girls saved to your computer

Anonymous No. 16591155

>>16587586
Science

Anonymous No. 16591187

>>16587586
Honestly, I can only name the ways in which it has made the human condition worse.

Anonymous No. 16592310

>>16589951
When you shit in a bathroom and dispose of your waste instead of eating it like a mindless dog, you are doing philosophy.

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Cult of Passion No. 16592524

>>16592310
>dispose of
>not neutralizing the threat with a double tap to the coil
A noble savage is still a savage, you barbarian...

Toilets are replacable...honor is not.

Anonymous No. 16592528

>>16592524
That shitter clearly hasn't been shot even once, let alone double tapped, so it obviosly doesn't replaced, poser.

Anonymous No. 16592887

>>16587560
>>16591453
Check out my philosophy, its not hard

Anonymous No. 16592896

>>16592887
Your lack of argument shows a lack of love for Sophia. It's not hard because it's a limp dick

Anonymous No. 16594089

>>16587590
I look like this and I think this

Anonymous No. 16594096

>>16587856
You're just throwing around statements. Don't you want to elaborate on them?

Anonymous No. 16594097

>>16587560
Science is Woke DEI. Based Trump and Elon will eliminate it and replace it with Private Business Ventures powered by AI. Progress will skyrocket. We're about to hit the stick on the hockey stick, boys.