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Anonymous No. 16594942

Gaganyaan - edition

previous >>16591650

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Anonymous No. 16594949

first for starliner

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Anonymous No. 16594952

Elon is now attempting to politicize the stranded astronauts.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892584783064052114?t=Pdb7-L7MuW9hapOu3gXTug&s=19

Anonymous No. 16594963

>>16594952
Now? he's been doing it for the past month or 2

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Anonymous No. 16594972

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892968811625672853

Day 2

Anonymous No. 16594981

>>16594972
LETS GOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAH
Fuck the Kellys

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Anonymous No. 16594985

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892970327904342216

Anonymous No. 16594986

>>16594952
>>16594972
Do lefties think attempting to scold Elon's language in order to avoid the ramifications of the Biden admin (not NASA) refusing SpaceX's offer for political reasons does not stand out?

Anonymous No. 16594990

>>16594986
There's no evidence that Biden refused Elon Musk's offer to take them back for political reasons. The plan was always for them to come back in February 2025. This shit takes time.

Anonymous No. 16594992

>>16594990
>The plan was always for them to come back in February 2025
Retard

Anonymous No. 16594994

>>16594986
Elon's too autistic for the language police to have any influence over him. It's wonderful to see

Anonymous No. 16594997

>>16594992
>No argument

Anonymous No. 16594998

New Frenulum is flying on Tuesday.

Anonymous No. 16594999

>>16594990
I heard the original plan was to bring them back on june 16th

Anonymous No. 16595002

>>16594997
You moving the goalpost to
>erm it was actually the plan the whole time!
isn’t an argument

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Anonymous No. 16595003

>>16594998
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1892955768506163510

thought you meant New Glenn
lame

Anonymous No. 16595005

>>16595003
Why has Limp not killed this gay ass carnival ride yet

Anonymous No. 16595007

>>16595003
What did you think "frenulum" referred to?

Anonymous No. 16595009

>>16595003
>New Shepard's crewed NS-30 mission is targeting a two hour hold at T-10:00 followed by a scrub on Tuesday, Feb. 25 with the scrub window opening at 9:30 AM CST / 15:30 UTC.

Anonymous No. 16595010

>>16595005
I think it's somehow actually profitable.
they just built a new one last year

Anonymous No. 16595011

>>16595010
It’s not profitable they’ve said so publicly

Anonymous No. 16595018

>>16595002
>>16594999
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/nasa-moves-up-target-to-return-butch-and-suni-but-not-for-political-reasons/
https://time.com/7011415/nasa-boeing-starliner-astronauts-press-conference/

Everything since August of 2024 says that the plan was to bring them back in February. Where is the proof that Elon offered up a rescue mission and was denied? Musk fans are so retarded, I swear to god. I fucking that you "people" have infested this board.

Anonymous No. 16595019

>>16594990
>The plan was always for them to come back in February 2025.

No it wasn't.

Anonymous No. 16595021

>>16595018
>Where is the proof that Elon offered up a rescue mission and was denied?
The CEO of SpaceX said this happened and I’m inclined to believe him, sorry if this offends you

Anonymous No. 16595022

>>16595018
>Everything since August of 2024 says that the plan was to bring them back in February.

You are being dishonest.

Anonymous No. 16595025

>>16595018
Liar. And now you’re mad people are believing Musk? In a general literally started as a boca chica tank watching thread with extreme interest in SpaceX?
Lurk more before posting retarded shit next time

Anonymous No. 16595030

In other news, now that this whole “women ruin everything” trend is going around with helicopters and planes crushing, the story of Serena Auñón-Chancellor drilling holes on the ISS is gaining traction again on twitter and people think she did it

Anonymous No. 16595031

>>16595030
>Bots are bringing up Russian lies again
SHOCKER

Anonymous No. 16595036

>>16594972
I hate the laundering of credentials that are not just irrelevant to the main point but also trying to gaslight people into ignoring the original shitpost by the astronaut.

Anonymous No. 16595037

>>16594972
>another 1200+ posts in 24hrs thread
i guess its something to tide us over until we get to flight 8

Anonymous No. 16595038

>>16595031
What sucks is this is an account I actually enjoy
https://x.com/anc_aesthetics/status/1892835239199674711
And as far as I understand it: it was a completely fabricated lie pushed by a domestic russian media company. Rogozin rolled with it but Roscosmos made a formal “clarification,” basically an apology, when NASA and Ballast Bill got angry. Additionally, it was discovered she couldn’t have done it based off of her logged hours, and additionally it was discovered that the module was filled with drill marks made by retarded drunk energomash or energia (can’t remember which) contractors who built the module. Basically the whole thing was a fabricated lie to CYA for stupid russian contractors who don’t know how to build

Anonymous No. 16595039

>>16594985
fuck biden's attacks on spacex, but at least he kept spaceflight largely the same instead of taking an axe to it all

Anonymous No. 16595042

>>16595019
>N-no you're wrong!
>>16595021
>The CEO of SpaceX said this happened and I’m inclined to believe him, sorry if this offends you
The person he's talking to is the literal commander of the ISS. I'm going to believe him over a crony that has been shown to constantly lie and scam people.
>>16595022
>Y-you're being dishonest! I won't show any proof of that though
>>16595025
I'd believe the literal commander of the space station over a con artist like Elon.

Anonymous No. 16595045

>>16595039
Just my tin foil hat theory, but if starliner actually worked as intended and Vulcan-Centaur/SLS wasn’t delayed as much as they were they would have brought the hammer down a lot harder on SX

Anonymous No. 16595046

>>16595039
He attacked everything Musk related. He wanted to kill SpaceX by hurting their Starlink business by denying contractual win to provide rural America with internet. They also tried to kill Starlink by labeling it a monopoly. And they tried to kill Starlink by sabotaging the negotiations between DoD/SpaceX.

All thats shown is that democrats are rats that can never be trusted. That includes those astronauts who suck the WEF dick.

Anonymous No. 16595047

>>16594981
This, so sick of that sanctimonious crap.

Anonymous No. 16595050

>>16595042
Oh so you’re just an imbecile then, I see lol

Anonymous No. 16595051

>>16595042
>I wont believe the head of the company thats got the space craft
Reminder, you delusional commies lost the election.

Anonymous No. 16595055

ballast bill the crypt keeper to the first private spacewalker
has there been a better upgrade ever?

Anonymous No. 16595056

>>16594972
I'm just curious. Whatever happened to the astronaut rule about not being political.

Anonymous No. 16595057

>>16595050
>No argument.
>>16595051
>No argument.
I'll believe the person who's actually commanding the ISS, over someone who's been constantly shown lying.

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Anonymous No. 16595058

>>16594990
There is a witness account actually

Anonymous No. 16595060

>>16595057
Someone who cant tell a man from a woman, isn't in their right mind. You trannies lost the election.

Anonymous No. 16595061

>>16595045
seems very plausible

Anonymous No. 16595062

>>16595057
Name a Musk lie.
I’ll give you a freebie: him saying his car is “in orbit around mars”
Name one more.

Anonymous No. 16595063

>>16595057
What does he command the ISS to do, a backflip?

Anonymous No. 16595064

>>16594990
>It was all a series of (((coincidences))).
>STOP CONNECTING THE DOTS.

Reminder, you delusional trannies lost the election.

Anonymous No. 16595065

>>16595042
>I will believe someone with no knowledge of the subject over someone with direct knowledge of the subject

Why is this not a shock.

Anonymous No. 16595067

>>16595062
that isn't really a "lie", more of a simplification for the normies

Anonymous No. 16595070

>>16595062
Uhmm.... actually it is orbiting around Mars, just like the planet Pluto is orbiting Earth... go back to elementary school.

Anonymous No. 16595072

Wasn't it Kelly who democrats wanted to be Kamala's VP?

Anonymous No. 16595073

>>16595065
I will believe someone who has not been shown constantly lying about things to someone who hasn't been shown constantly lying.

Anonymous No. 16595074

>>16595070
periodic table goes up to genesis
hEaVy EleMenTs

Anonymous No. 16595075

>>16595062
Musk once claimed The Boring Company had “verbal government approval” for a New York-to-Washington D.C. Hyperloop in 2017, which federal officials denied, and he’s overstated product timelines—like the Tesla Cybertruck, unveiled in 2019 but delayed for years despite deposit-taking. Critics also point to his Neuralink claims, such as a 2024 statement that a patient could control a mouse with a brain implant, which lacks independent verification.
More recently, Musk has faced backlash for amplifying false political claims on X. In 2024, he posted that Democrats were importing “illegal voters” via asylum seekers to rig elections, citing exaggerated figures like “two million new legal voters” in four years. Fact-checks, such as one from the Brennan Center for Justice showing non-citizen voting is negligible (0.0001% of votes in 2016), debunked this. Similarly, his 2023 endorsement of an antisemitic conspiracy theory—calling it “actual truth”—drew White House condemnation as a “hideous lie,” tied to historical violence like the 2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting. Musk later apologized, admitting it was a mistake, but the incident underscored his tendency to promote unverified claims.

Anonymous No. 16595078

>>16595072
yeah he was a strong contender or something

Anonymous No. 16595080

>>16595062
One well-documented case involves Musk’s 2018 tweets claiming he had “funding secured” to take Tesla private at $420 per share. This statement triggered a surge in Tesla’s stock price, but it later emerged that no firm financing was in place—only preliminary talks with Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund had occurred. A federal judge ruled the tweets were false and reckless, leading to a settlement with the SEC where Musk and Tesla each paid $20 million in fines, and Musk stepped down as Tesla chairman. Critics, including shareholders in a class-action lawsuit, argued this misled investors, costing them millions when the stock fluctuated wildly after the deal fell apart.

Anonymous No. 16595081

>>16595075
You asked grok for a musk lie lmaoooooo how embarrassing!!

Anonymous No. 16595083

>>16595073
see
>>16595062

Anonymous No. 16595085

>>16595083
Okay. Here:
>>16595080
>>16595075
Another frequent point of contention is Tesla’s autonomous driving technology. Musk has repeatedly promised full self-driving capabilities were imminent—saying in 2016 it would be ready in two years, and in 2021 claiming Tesla was “very close” to driverless cars by year-end. Yet, internal Tesla communications, like a 2021 memo from the autopilot software director to California regulators, admitted Musk’s timelines didn’t match “engineering reality.” As of early 2025, Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) system still requires human supervision, and its crash record—linked to hundreds of incidents and multiple fatalities—has fueled skepticism about Musk’s rosy projections.
Musk’s Hyperloop concept is another example. In 2013, he pitched a high-speed transportation system that could shuttle passengers from Los Angeles to San Francisco in 35 minutes, claiming it was feasible and cost-effective. He later founded The Boring Company to pursue related tunneling projects, but the results—like a short test tunnel in Hawthorne, California—fell far short of the grand vision. Critics argue Musk oversold the idea’s practicality, with no operational Hyperloop system materializing despite years of hype.

Anonymous No. 16595086

>>16595081
It could literally be just a chatbot.

Anonymous No. 16595087

being optimistic on timelines is not a lie

Anonymous No. 16595090

>>16595073
Your opinion is worthless.

Anonymous No. 16595092

>>16595075
>Musk once claimed The Boring Company had “verbal government approval” for a New York-to-Washington D.C.
Verbal agreement isn't a lie. Your confusion is thinking verbal agreements mean anything. Musk's overhyping verbal agreements mean nothing.

>overstated timelines
Not a lie, just wrong timeline prediction, due to various factors that are beyond his control like war/covid factory shutdowns.
>critics say neuralink is fake
It works, there are ~4 human patients with it now. Critics are liars
>democrats were importing illegal voters
They imported millions of illegals. Election cannot be verfied in many democrat states and they made sure to ban any verification process. Further the house seat depends not on citizenship but on population. So its rigging the vote.
>fact check, Brennan Center for Justice
A liberal or progressive nonprofit law and public policy institute. Unreliable propaganda strikes again.
>actual truth
Agreeing with an opinion isn't a lie

Anonymous No. 16595093

>>16595081
>playing with grok 3 today
>ask it for info in my field
>it cites my work as the main source for it's information
hmm

Anonymous No. 16595094

>>16595085
>repeatedly promised
You mean made predictions, hopeful statements. Millions of Tesla are driving FSD today. The technology is here.

>Hyperloop
Whitepaper Musk put out for the world to build a hyperloop. The world failed.

Anonymous No. 16595096

>>16595093
That's gotta feel good

Anonymous No. 16595098

>>16595093
Interesting

Anonymous No. 16595100

>>16595092
For the Hyperloop/New York-to-D.C. tunnel claim in 2017, Musk tweeted that The Boring Company had “verbal govt approval” for a route. Federal and local agencies, including the U.S. Department of Transportation and New York City officials, later said no such approval existed in any formal or meaningful capacity (per The Verge, “Elon Musk’s Boring Company ‘verbal approval’ claim disputed by officials,” July 20, 2017). If Musk did have a casual conversation with an official, calling it “approval” inflates a noncommittal exchange into something it wasn’t. That’s not a lie in the sense of inventing a conversation that never happened—it’s a stretch of interpretation, hyping an informal nod into a done deal. Critics see this as misleading, but as you suggest, it hinges on Musk’s pattern of overhyping rather than a provable intent to deceive.
This nuance applies elsewhere too. Take the Tesla “funding secured” tweet: Musk claimed he had verbal commitments from Saudi investors (detailed in his SEC defense filings, August 2018). Legally, “secured” implies finalized backing, which didn’t exist—hence the SEC’s fraud charge—but Musk could argue he wasn’t lying, just overconfident in loose assurances. The pattern isn’t about verbal agreements being meaningless in general (they can matter in business), but about Musk presenting them as more concrete than they are.

Anonymous No. 16595102

>>16595092
The "lies" are literally AI slop responses.

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Anonymous No. 16595103

>europoor hours
>calm, civil discussion on spaceflight and relevant political events
>americunt hours
>endless shitflinging, 5th grade tier insults, tranny spam, off-topic politics etc etc
why are yankies such massive adhd spergs? Is it the flouride?

Anonymous No. 16595104

>>16595100
it wasn't even "loose" assurances really, the comments from Musk years later even are that he was very confident the Saudis were in agreement with it going forward, but then re-negged
maybe they did re-neg or maybe Musk misintrepeted something and saying "ok" but not really meaning it is a cultural thing for the Saudis
the only reason Tesla and Musk took the plea deal with SEC was that if it went to court and dragged on, the banks told Musk that they would end the lines of credit that Tesla had at the time, which would basically instantly kill Tesla
so they were forced to take the plea deal even if Musk thought he had a realistic chance of beating it in court
it was basically lawfare from the SEC (not necessarily from the admin at the time, but perhaps some other influences like other car companies lobbying someone etc)
Musk has been steping on a lot of toes for a long time and not just with Tesla

Anonymous No. 16595106

>>16595100
This is immediately identifiable as slop. The repeated "—" gives it away among other things. I don't even have a "—" on my keyboard

Anonymous No. 16595107

>>16595103
Europe needs to be nuked and sent back to stone age where the land can be used for future Martians (pure blood American)

Anonymous No. 16595108

>>16595103
Uh sir this is the spaceflight general. I'm not sure why a European would even be here?

Anonymous No. 16595110

>>16595103
you guys are the ones that post fecal fetishism literally every day

Anonymous No. 16595113

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=5UVSTG0_6X0

thread theme song

Anonymous No. 16595114

>>16595093
did that feel better than getting (You) here?

Anonymous No. 16595119

https://x.com/MeinGottNiles/status/1892964601349960190

Anonymous No. 16595123

>>16595107
> (pure blood American)

25% black
25% jew
25% mexican
24% irish

Anonymous No. 16595127

>>16595123
a-and the last percent?

Anonymous No. 16595128

>>16595113
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=h7rReolU_UI

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Anonymous No. 16595130

https://twitter.com/KenKirtland17/status/1892598385305428040

Hey musk, learn to shut your bitch ass up

Anonymous No. 16595131

>>16595127
welsh

Anonymous No. 16595132

>>16595130
you mean privy to?

Anonymous No. 16595133

>>16595130
EDS trannies leaking their axe wounds

Anonymous No. 16595135

>>16595133
damn gurl, you should go to a doctor lest you get an infection

Anonymous No. 16595137

>>16595123
100% Indian

Anonymous No. 16595138

Post more music pls
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=puaPTW0DjqA

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>>16595138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w34fSnJNP-4&ab_channel=weyrdmusicman

Anonymous No. 16595142

>>16595139
this will be me in 40 years

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Anonymous No. 16595143

I'm now a Torybro.

Anonymous No. 16595145

>>16595143
wtf how did you get this picture of my wife and me?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16595148

I hope musk gets assassinated soon.

Anonymous No. 16595149

>>16595148
I hope he doesn't, and since my will is greater than yours the universe will favor my wishes over yours.

Anonymous No. 16595152

>>16595130
Hey Ken was a couple hundred likes worth being publicly labeled a liar?

Anonymous No. 16595158

How long until Elon openly calls someone a nigger?

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Anonymous No. 16595159

Meanwhile, at Star Base...

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Anonymous No. 16595161

How to Spaceflight setup?

Anonymous No. 16595165

grok xD optimus xD the truly meme trip to le mars (trust me the raptors will fire for landing) xD

Anonymous No. 16595170

>>16595148
Reminder, violent death threats and incitement to violence is not protected by free speech. Not in America and certainly not in any other place.

Anonymous No. 16595176

>>16595161
I can't even get my PC to recognize my new TV and all I'm trying is dual-screening.

Anonymous No. 16595177

>>16595161
there's no reason for this

Anonymous No. 16595179

>>16595148
Brah come on

Anonymous No. 16595181

>>>/wsg/5818638
Okay... now THIS is epic.

Anonymous No. 16595183

>>16595158
Shotwell is gonna drop the n-bomb on Bolden when he tries to lobby to stop the confirmation of Jared
t. knower

Anonymous No. 16595184

>>16595170
>""freedom"" of speech
>look inside
>no freedom
US of A is dead

Anonymous No. 16595185

>>16595181
Where might I request medical dues from elon for the stage 4 cancer this just gave me

Anonymous No. 16595188

>>16595138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4FrnrD7jCA

Anonymous No. 16595190

>>16595184
>wdym I can't make direct actionable threats against public figures?!

Anonymous No. 16595192

>>16595184
Sorry no country on earth allows death threats

Anonymous No. 16595194

>>16595188
This is so cool

Anonymous No. 16595196

>>16595170
Wishing someone dies is not an incitement nor a threat.

Anonymous No. 16595200

>>16595192
we should allow challenging people to lethal duels on the Moon and Mars

Anonymous No. 16595201

>>16595196
Calling for assassination of a public figure is both a death threat and an incitement to violence

Anonymous No. 16595204

>>16595201
I'm not calling for shit, just wishing that it happens.

Anonymous No. 16595206

>>16595204
You should make that case with the FBI and a lawyer. Just fyi. You would need it now.

Anonymous No. 16595209

>>16595204
You are mentally ill

Anonymous No. 16595213

>>16595204
https://fox59.com/indiana-news/indiana-man-charged-with-threatening-elon-musk-on-x-arrested-for-felony-intimidation/

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16595214

They made the wrong element of the show gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3pHvH8sPT4

Anonymous No. 16595217

>threaten elon
>get a felon(y)

Anonymous No. 16595219

>astronaut, who doesn't know what he is talking about, publicly calls Elon a liar
>Elon responds by calling the guy a retard
>EDS seethe "waoh Elon how dare you randomly attack someone out of the blue!"

Anonymous No. 16595220

>>16595018
kill yourself NOW

Anonymous No. 16595223

>>16595220
kek

Anonymous No. 16595224

>>16595018
>I fucking that you "people" have infested this board.
retards not welcome

Anonymous No. 16595227

>>16595103
euros aren't welcome here
this is a space thread

Anonymous No. 16595230

>>16595227
lmfao

Anonymous No. 16595231

>>16595108
>>16595227
I'd like to kill you.

Anonymous No. 16595233

we really have a troon with EDS here using grok to whine about elon lol. guess he is out of work now so has nothing better to do

Anonymous No. 16595234

>>16595233
I wonder if its the same troon that made the death threat. Its gonna be interesting if action is taken against him.

Anonymous No. 16595235

>>16595231
you skip your estrogen supplements today or something?

Anonymous No. 16595236

>>16595219
>elon acts retarded as is typical
>gets called out on his lies
>has a melty
neither you nor your sperglord has yet to provide any proof to his claims. I'm sorry you lack the capability for rational thought.

Anonymous No. 16595238

Trump and Elon won
4 More Years

Anonymous No. 16595241

>4 more years of retarded lies, baby babble and stagnation
incredible. I love musky so much!

Anonymous No. 16595242

>>16595219
Reminds me of the same cave diving accident

>accident happens
>everyone wants musk to help out
>musk talk with navy seal divers and they talk about what musk could do
>musk suggest small sub
>brit expat calls Musk to shove the sub up his ass on BBC
>musk calls him a pedo
>everyone tries to claim Musk randomly called someone a pedo
>everyone tries to argue a white old expat that moved to thailand for young pussy isn't somehow a common pedophile understanding

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Anonymous No. 16595243

>>16595236
Whatever you say you kooky nutter.

Anonymous No. 16595246

>>16595242
>reminds me of this thing I made up in my head
Meds. NOW.

Anonymous No. 16595248

>>16594942
Uhhh... dear Elon Musk haters and Elon Musk lovers... I totally understand why you feel the way you are feeling but please..... pleaseeee... PLLLLEAAAAAASEEEEEEEE don't talk about Elon Musk if it is just drama and has nothing to do with spaceflight....

Anonymous No. 16595249

>>16595177
I can't handle more than one monitor. Could buy enough to fill the wall, but instead I alt tab.

Anonymous No. 16595250

>>16595243
this is the pinnacle of EDS arguments. It's almost cute how dumb you are.

Anonymous No. 16595251

>>16595161
1. Get a giant one. Partition the screen real estate.

Anonymous No. 16595252

>>16595231
Ummm... ok?

Anonymous No. 16595253

>>16595248
there's literally absolutely completely nothing of note happening at the moment.

Anonymous No. 16595255

>>16595241
Look he’s not perfect but who other than Musk is even close to getting man to Mars?
If NASA went at it with ‘traditional’ contractors a la Boeing, their timeline would be the circa 2040s with it getting pushed back at LEAST to the 2060s
Bezos just wants bragging rights of landing on the Moon, and the only reason he even has a decent landing architecture now (I say that generously) is because his first serious proposal for HLS was dogshit and even NASA snubbed it.
So yeah until someone else comes along and can offer a workhorse medium-lift rocket and/or a fully reusable TSTO super heavy lift rocket that doesn’t cost the american taxpayer a bajillion dollars, I’m ride or die with musk. Even if he is a cringy little prick at times. He’s the best chance at the red planet and his company is placing where we SHOULD have been 50 years ago

Anonymous No. 16595256

>>16595250
>this is the pinnacle of EDS arguments
And it's easily dismissed as the crazed ramblings of a retard, NEXT.

Anonymous No. 16595258

>>16595248
Flight 8 is next week and it might go orbital.

Anonymous No. 16595259

>>16595242
Yeah that was embarrassing moment for Elon.

Anonymous No. 16595261

>>16595258
“might” doing a lot of heavy lifting here (even more than Raptor lmfaoooo)

Anonymous No. 16595262

>>16595258
They were still supposed to do relight test on flight 7, it's not going orbital.

Anonymous No. 16595263

>erm yeah so basically we are going to fly our outdated booster and ship for the millionth time and not learn anything new after it fucking explodes
Don’t worry though, I’m told this is an iterative development program so I should not be concerned. Trust the plan

Anonymous No. 16595264

>>16595263
you're going on the no-mars list

Anonymous No. 16595265

>>16595255
>who other than Musk is even close to getting man to Mars?
This is why you should be pissed that he's frying his brain on ketamine. If he wasn't surrounded by dickriding Twitter yes men (all Indians and other Asian immigrants, hm) then maybe Mars would be a lot closer. He's a man, men are fallible. Pointing out failings isn't an indictment of everything he is

Anonymous No. 16595266

>>16595263
You dont know what you dont know. Some fixes are procedural and software timings.

Anonymous No. 16595268

>>16595263
>Don’t worry though
K I won't

Anonymous No. 16595269

>>16595265
Too bad you castrated yourself and cannot think.

Anonymous No. 16595271

>>16595265
Many will call you a faggot for this post but I don’t entirely disagree

Anonymous No. 16595273

>>16595269
better than only thinking about castration 24/7

Anonymous No. 16595276

>>16595273
Any analysis from castrated brain is invalid.

Anonymous No. 16595277

>>16595276
correct, which is why ignoring trannies like you is the best course of action for all rational people.

Anonymous No. 16595280

only 5 days left

Anonymous No. 16595281

>>16595277
Rational isn't to castrate yourself.

Anonymous No. 16595286

>>16595277
thats what people (including musk) tried to do for years, it doesn't work,

Anonymous No. 16595287

>>16595281
that's right, lil niggy. I'm glad you're finally beginning to grasp your retardation

Anonymous No. 16595288

>>16595286
Musk was feeding his son puberty blockers during the pandemic he’s a fucking midwit in many respects

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Anonymous No. 16595289

>>16595286
>it doesn't work
that's exactly why they want it to continue

Anonymous No. 16595291

>>16595289
you can't ignore them, you need to destroy them

Anonymous No. 16595292

>>16595286
>>16595288
trannies infiltrated his home and tried to kill his companies.

Anonymous No. 16595294

OH MY GOD A TRANNY JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

Anonymous No. 16595297

>>16595294
Andreas Mogensen??

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Anonymous No. 16595298

>>16595291

Anonymous No. 16595300

>>16595291
Exactly. Its an anti-human cult that was destroying not just his family, not just his company and not just his country, but also the entire western world.

Anonymous No. 16595301

>>16595294
It was the eunuch of donetsk, mr rogozin himself

Anonymous No. 16595302

>>16595297
lmaooo

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Anonymous No. 16595303

>>16595297
nope

Anonymous No. 16595304

>>16595269
Completely zombified response. Waiting for you to explain why Elon dying from organ damage and sleep deprivation after burning all of SpaceX's bridges is actually good for Mars.

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Anonymous No. 16595305

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1893019265550496158

flight 9 might have starship return

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Anonymous No. 16595306

>>16595305
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=140596&RequestTimeout=1000

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Anonymous No. 16595307

>>16595305
holy moly, is it finally habbening??

Anonymous No. 16595308

>>16595307
chopsticks on tower 2 need to be finished and tested

Anonymous No. 16595309

>>16595248
mercury will NOT be disassembled and I will hurl rocks at anyone who suggests it will

Anonymous No. 16595311

>>16595305
Inshallah rocket is success

Anonymous No. 16595314

Starship name is stupid, the whole stack is called starship, but also 2nd stage is also starship.

Anonymous No. 16595316

>>16595305
>flight 9

Anonymous No. 16595317

>>16595309
yeah, we'll just throw it into the sun for shits and giggles
t. Lone Skum

Anonymous No. 16595318

>>16595139
This is so cringe

Anonymous No. 16595319

>>16595314
I’ve accepted it at this point but yeah it’s dumb. Booster and upper stage need names distinct from the entire stack.

Anonymous No. 16595321

>>16595305
we been knew

Anonymous No. 16595322

>>16595319
YOU DARE CRITICIZE ELON MUSK
INSOLENT WORM

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Anonymous No. 16595323

>>16595305
Double catch
Double catch!
DOUBLE CATCH!
DOUBLE CATCH!!

Anonymous No. 16595325

>>16595309
We gotta take it apart, that's what it's there for. wtf else would you even do with it

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Anonymous No. 16595326

>>16594942
Is anyone else excited IM2? It will carry a "rocket drone" called Micro Nova which will go into a permanently shadowed crater and make the first picture from the inside. And when will it land on the Moon? 2026? 2027? No it will happen literally in 2 weeks(-1 day)

Anonymous No. 16595327

>>16595314
Also the stars are not involved at all

Anonymous No. 16595328

>>16595326
yes lots of cool shit on that lander, as long as it actually lands this time

Anonymous No. 16595330

>>16595327
Sun is a star

Anonymous No. 16595332

>>16595318
You are, yes.

Anonymous No. 16595334

>>16595326
>And when will it land on the Moon
2 weeks after launch

Anonymous No. 16595335

>>16595325
>wtf else would you even do with it
use it as the centrally located capital of the solar system

Anonymous No. 16595337

>>16595330
Shut up faggot

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Anonymous No. 16595338

>>16595305
>flight 9

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Anonymous No. 16595339

>>16595325
Colonizing it.

Anonymous No. 16595342

>>16595327
planets were historically classified as stars

Anonymous No. 16595345

>>16595242
I find it funny how everyone globally will forver know him as "the pedo guy"
anyway
Pedo guy he was retarded for randomly attacking him on TV for no good reason
Elon was retarded for making an ass of himself getting excessively butthurt over it

Anonymous No. 16595346

>>16595338
reminder that this was supposed to happen on the current flight. But then shartshit exploded.

Anonymous No. 16595348

>>16595332
terrible nerd singing about popsci slop escapist fag fantasy

Anonymous No. 16595349

>>16595345
>noooo you have to take it in the ass whenever someone shit talks you
Musk's whole persona is "always punch back" against bullies. That has worked for him 100% of the time. The ones defending the unprovoked aggressors are always in the wrong.

Anonymous No. 16595354

>>16595339
I'm all for colonizing it, after it's been smashed to gravel and reconstituted into cylinders with a million times the surface area

Anonymous No. 16595355

>>16595348
You could fit more buzzwords into that post.

Anonymous No. 16595356

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1893019142292406540


Manley just said the astronauts are retarded

Anonymous No. 16595357

>>16595349
so you're in the wrong, I'm glad you admitted it

Anonymous No. 16595360

>>16595354
there's plenty of gravel to be made out in the belt
if you desecrate hermes the gods will punish you

Anonymous No. 16595361

>>16595356
i regret clicking on that

Anonymous No. 16595362

>>16595355
go watch star trek with your four eyes

Anonymous No. 16595365

>>16595356
reminds me of black science guy

Anonymous No. 16595366

>https://www.wired.com/story/blue-ghost-mission-lunar-economy/
what a garbage ass fucking useless article. its amazing that shitters like this make money while shit like thespacereview cant make a cent.

Anonymous No. 16595367

>>16595356
I was expecting a much more prissy, snarky little remark from him. This isn’t terrible

Anonymous No. 16595370

>>16595305
>Catching Ship 35
Imagine the backlash Elon Musk will get when the Starship accidently kills 1000s of people......

Anonymous No. 16595371

>>16595370
one thousands of people

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Anonymous No. 16595372

>>16595062
You see the ISS lights from the ground
"0 impact" on astronomy
FSD timelines are at this point so delayed that some of them were either lies to pump the stock or delusion of an order that puts his reasoning in question
Solar Roof
Funding Secured
Pedo guy

Anonymous No. 16595374

>>16595370
Is there anything of value west of Boca Chica?

Anonymous No. 16595376

>>16595374
thats where the workers live

Anonymous No. 16595378

>>16595374
No, but it could crash east of Boca Chica since it comes from the east.

Anonymous No. 16595379

>>16595362
(you)

Anonymous No. 16595382

>>16595378
Help I always confuse west and east when I think from the American perspective.

Anonymous No. 16595384

>>16595360
>asteroid belt has about 138 times less mass than Mercury
Not good enough.

Anonymous No. 16595385

>>16595382
Wut

Anonymous No. 16595389

>>16595366
>wired
reddit commie article

Anonymous No. 16595390

>>16595374
48,000 beetle nests

Anonymous No. 16595392

>>16595384
>138 times less mass
>spread out over 500,000,000 miles
>sunlight ~2% as intense
Yeah bad news >>16595360, Mercury will be dismantled

Anonymous No. 16595402

>>16595382
-Starship launches in a easterly direction
-Booster, during its boostback burn, reverses direction and goes in a westerly direction when returning to launch site
-Ship, having done an orbit, will still be traveling in an easterly direction when it reenters
-assuming Ship is go for catch, it will belly flop just east of the catch tower and like Booster will translate sideways at the last second into the towers arms

Anonymous No. 16595403

>>16594952
Soyuz could have picked up the crew from the ISS any day of the week.
But oh no, Russia ba'ad, m'kay?

Anonymous No. 16595404

>>16594990
Fucking clown

Anonymous No. 16595405

>>16595402
*ship will be caught with the tiled side facing east, away from the tower

Anonymous No. 16595406

>>16595402
will the tower arms place the booster back on the launch mount within like 50 minutes of booster catch in order to be ready to catch the ship?

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Anonymous No. 16595407

Anonymous No. 16595408

>>16595403
The two of them weren’t just going to take the soyuz home, fucking up Russia’s cosmonaut/astronaut schedule, and all Söyuzes are built on an as-needed basis so it would quite literally have to be a dedicated “butch and suni” soyuz i.e. a rescue mission.
By kicking people off the next Dragon launch they reframed it not as a rescue mission but as a “oh we’ll just bring them home on the next Dragon 2 that’s already heading there”
Saying
>they weren’t stuck because Soyuz was also an option
is completely different

Anonymous No. 16595411

>>16595407
a fucking sewage pipe

Anonymous No. 16595412

>>16595411
That'll be 2 billion dollars plus tip

Anonymous No. 16595414

>>16595403
Soyuz seats need to be custom-fitted and that's hard to do when the crew are already in space. On top of that it takes two years to build a Soyuz MS capsule, so handing one over to a rescue mission would cause an even larger scheduling fuck up than the station is used to seeing.

Anonymous No. 16595415

>>16595406
Booster will be caught with Tower A and Ship will be caught with Tower B.

As it were the chopsticks and catch rails on Tower A are an obsolete
design and not shaped correctly for the landing pins on Ship, only Tower B can catch a Ship until Tower A gets retrofit.

Anonymous No. 16595421

>>16595407
new cuckbox for the passengers to sit in for a year at a time, completely satisfied with the situation trust me man

Anonymous No. 16595422

https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1893037697515622910

26th/27/28 closure of road for next flight

Anonymous No. 16595424

>>16595421
this one would be even worse 3m vs, cozy 5m on ISS

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Anonymous No. 16595433

>>16595305
>reflown booster
>both caught
>second tower
KINO

Anonymous No. 16595434

>>16594986
Musks "offer" was "give me an extra $100m and I'll send up other Dragon instead of just using the one that's already planned".
Is saying no because it's a waste of money politicaly motivated? Yes. Is not wasting money bad? No.

This is just the latest in a long list that makes MAGAfags think they are experts on something they didn't care about a week ago.

Anonymous No. 16595437

>>16595434
if by MAGAfags you mean Elon Musk then you are correct

Anonymous No. 16595440

how can any of us know anything, really? none of us were there. none of us have any idea what actually happened.

Anonymous No. 16595442

So there was a cargo dragon who went to the ISS, boosted the ISS, and then landed back on Earth during this whole time frame

They could have shoved those 2 into that cargo dragon for ZERO extra cost

Now maybe we should talk about why billions of dollars extra are spent on "man rated capsules"...

Anonymous No. 16595443

>>16595440
Shut up dork, I make educated guesses and argue with people who have obviously-retarded takes and even if it’s just Opinion A vs Opinion B, my opinion is still closer to fact

Anonymous No. 16595444

>>16595442
It's all just red tape.
The culmination of all the cuts is the removal of man rating Starship, just as the first manned flight launches

Anonymous No. 16595446

>>16595442
You can just shove astronauts into cargo vehicles it’s that easy in rocketry

Anonymous No. 16595447

spacex makes $7 for every $1 they spend

Anonymous No. 16595448

>>16595443
ok but i don't think you get it. you weren't there. elon was. until you've laced up his space boots and stood in his shoes you don't get to tell him what happened.

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Anonymous No. 16595449

Who is your favorite space flight passenger? For me, it's Anna Lee Fisher. She's super cute.

Anonymous No. 16595451

>>16595449
neil armstrong

Anonymous No. 16595452

>>16595442
They should've thrown them out the airlock with a pair of parachutes. The capsule grift needs to end.

Anonymous No. 16595453

>>16595448
I know, which is why I am more inclined to believe Elon over a eurofag astronaut who publicly called the former a liar and who is one (if not more) degree removed from the talks that happened between NASA, boeing, and Musk’s very own company SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16595454

>>16595437
Are you ttrying to argue that everyone I have seen defending Musk is Musk?

Anonymous No. 16595455

why does elon think that guy is a passenger (aka cargo) anyway?

Anonymous No. 16595456

>>16595449
Laika the dog

Anonymous No. 16595457

>>16595455
It all goes back to Ballast Bill.

Anonymous No. 16595458

>>16595457
Bill had a shitty decision to make, and most definitely didn’t want to be the guy in charge of NASA’s next Columbia incident. He made the right choice

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Anonymous No. 16595459

>>16595454

Anonymous No. 16595460

>>16595434
>Musks "offer" was "give me an extra $100m
Fanfiction. Money wasn't even considered. You are creating fanfiction to justify a conclusion in your head.

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Anonymous No. 16595461

>>16595449

Anonymous No. 16595462

>>16595454
No that would be ridiculous anon, he just pays people to do it like he does with video games.

Anonymous No. 16595463

>>16595461
technically all females going into space are automatically cargo

Anonymous No. 16595464

>>16595460
>Money wasn't even considered
So Musk offered a Dragon flight for free? Interesting claim, as someone always after good PR I'm sure you can find Musk saying that publically 4 or 5 months ago.

>>16595462
True.

Anonymous No. 16595466

>>16595464
>So Musk offered a Dragon flight for free? Interesting claim, as someone always after good PR I'm sure you can find Musk saying that publically 4 or 5 months ago.
Again, fanfiction. Money didn't even enter the discussion. Yet, you're trying to make it about money. Your brain is cooked.

Anonymous No. 16595467

>>16595464
You are mentally ill

Anonymous No. 16595468

People
are
just
cargo
Put them in a suit
And strap them to the wall

Anonymous No. 16595469

>>16595452
a perfect time to test out MOOSE

Anonymous No. 16595471

>>16595468
shut up cargo

Anonymous No. 16595474

https://x.com/CaptMarkKelly/status/1893030621628293576

The lefty troon astronaut brothers are seething

Anonymous No. 16595475

So I’ve been scratching my brain for a bit trying to think about how you couldn’t do humans in a cargo dragon because of the lack of life support but nahh. It’s just red tape.
Apparently NASA had contentions to keep astronauts in the cargo bay of the shuttle and have it re-enter; they would just have to don an EVA suit and set the coolant temperature down very low. So yeah butch and suni could have likely done a cargo return but i’m sure NASA would only want to do that as a last-resort i.e. a disaster on the station such as a serious debris impact that required immediate bug out.
NASA also considered just bringing them back on then crew dragon that was already there, by placing them below the seats on the cargo couch laying down. Again, probably just red tape and they figured it was a dumb idea when they can just have butch and sunita wait [a hella long time] for a fresh capsule like six months later.

Anonymous No. 16595477

>>16595474
What an absolute faggot holy shit

Anonymous No. 16595479

>>16595474
Remember when I said a cosmic ray probably gave the kellys an in-space lobotomy? I stand by this. They are the two biggest fags the astronaut corps has ever produced

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Anonymous No. 16595483

>>16595474
lol sitting in a dragon is like taking the bus, basically zero risk

Anonymous No. 16595484

>>16595474
Ok fuck these guys fr. Dumbass space tourists

Anonymous No. 16595487

>>16595461
THE tomboy

Anonymous No. 16595488

>>16595039
"kept spaceflight the same" as in kept the pork money going to the same people. You seem to think space was for the common good. I would've been surprised if biden pulled one leech off the taxpayer

Anonymous No. 16595489

>>16595483
This is supposed to be some sort of “gotcha”????
>Erm mr musk I have a friend who trained and flew on YOUR product, yet you haven’t flown on it yourself. Curious.
This is the most jewish “comeback” in spaceflight history

Anonymous No. 16595490

>>16595046
Also dont forget he was weaponizing FAA by delaying Starship for 2 years

Anonymous No. 16595491

>>16595046
>Starlink doesn't work, and also it's a monopoly
I hate them so much it's unreal.

Anonymous No. 16595493

>>16595475
Or WH didn't want to give SpaceX and Musk the PR victory of rescuing Boeing's astronauts before election. I thought everyone sort of guessed it but preferred to be polite and not talk about it.
>stop repeating Musk's li-
Fuck off, I could see it from miles away before NASA delayed Crew-9. >>16306373

Anonymous No. 16595494

>>16595493
Idk I’m not arguing that either way. It would have been foolish to send them down on a cargo vehicle unless it was a serious emergency, in my opinion.
w
Whether or not a new crew dragon should have and could have been sent up earlier, but was delayed for political reasons, is another topic. Was this an option that got shut down to prevent a “PR win” for Musk during an election cycle? Idk.

Anonymous No. 16595495

>>16595493
This is obvious to everybody who was paying attention at the time. Those who don't want to admit it are those who hate Trump and Elon in the first place.

Anonymous No. 16595498

>>16595494
>in my opinion.
?
are you an astronaut(passenger) ?

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Anonymous No. 16595499

>>16595475
>astronauts in the cargo bay of the shuttle
That was a "they are dead if we do nothing" rescue plan, like MOOSE you wouldn't use it if you had any other options.
As for using cargo if you are willing to take risks you would just put them on the starliner they rode up.

Anonymous No. 16595500

>>16595494(me)
it’s entirely possible though, I should add.
And if Musk is claiming that NASA, or the biden admin, or whoever, denied this quicker mission and instead wanted to push it back to after the election then I believe Elon.

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Anonymous No. 16595501

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1893019265550496158

Anonymous No. 16595503

>>16595498
It’s a last resort kind of thing. Yes space has too much red tape and we need to return to being ballsy again like the circa 50s and 60s, but I wouldn’t just want to throw butch and sunita on a cargo craft not designed with humans in mind. If you’re going to do that then you might as well just fly them back on Starliner anyways—equal unknowns here.
The better option is wait for a manned dragon.

Anonymous No. 16595505

>>16595434
Money wasn't even discussed my EDS suffering friend.

Anonymous No. 16595506

>>16595501
how's the weather in europa these days?

Anonymous No. 16595507

>>16595503
> not designed with humans in mind.

whats the difference? No manual controls that have never been used? no display?

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Anonymous No. 16595509

>>16595505
Is this off a shill script? >>16595460 said the same thing and I see no reason anyone would honestly think "money wasn't discussed" means "cost isn't an issue".

I have no idea how much a 5080 is going for right now, money "hasn't been discussed" but I do know I can save money by waiting for prices to come down.

Anonymous No. 16595510

>>16595507
No seats, no plug-ins for the IVA suits, yes you can get back without these things but the margin for error is now more slim and it’s dumb to try when you can instead get a properly-equipped manned Dragon 2.

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Anonymous No. 16595514

/sfg/ - Seething Faggots General

Anonymous No. 16595515

>>16595514
You kill the joke by doing this bit twice a thread

Anonymous No. 16595516

>>16595515
that must have been someone else then

Anonymous No. 16595517

We need to deport the reddit trannis back

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Anonymous No. 16595518

>Hey Elon Musk, when you finally get the nerve to climb into a rocket ship, come talk to the three of us.

Anonymous No. 16595519

we don’t need to hit the image limit again just because (((you))) feel the need to share every grok image you generate

Anonymous No. 16595520

>>16595474
Kelly is going to run for prez in 2028, he was supposed to be Biden's replacement before Biden gave democrat leadership the finger for forcing him out.

Anonymous No. 16595521

>>16595520
He aint running shit with his tranny agenda

Anonymous No. 16595523

>>16595520
That’s not what happened at all. Kelly was never slated for shit. A bunch of spitter faggots just assumed a brat ticket of kamala-kelly would be le hecking based

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Anonymous No. 16595524

Who is the best tankwatcher? NSF definitely fell off

Anonymous No. 16595525

>>16595434
>Is saying no because it's a waste of money politicaly motivated? Yes. Is not wasting money bad? No.

Your incentives calculus is wrong. Our government spends 6 trillion and Biden and the executive branch do not care about wasting money. Only parts of the government with a budget care about how the money is spent. Biden could get NASA 100 million, 200 million, whatever, easily. If a spacex capsule failed and starliner was in service we both know what biden would do you double nigger.

>This is just the latest in a long list that makes MAGAfags think they are experts on something they didn't care about a week ago.

Same on the left. This is the problem with everyone calling elon a liar. Elon made a claim that biden rebuffed him because biden is blackballing elon for political reasons. Elon may be wrong, it's bad that elon is claiming this with no evidence, but there's also no way to disprove elon's claim either, no matter how much you know about how nasa is handling the situation. They are doing whats safe enough and as cheap ass possible, but biden can overrule it. You have to have a recording of a phonecall, an email from somebody with a big mouth, or read biden's mind to know if this happened.

Elon needs to explain his personal evidence and side of the story though, even if he can't prove it. That at least provides more surface to falsify his claim.

Anonymous No. 16595526

>>16595524
RGV aerial last I checked

Anonymous No. 16595527

>>16595524
I do not care for the negro as a race but CSI starnig at least seems genuine with the tism and enthusiasm and this seems mean

Anonymous No. 16595528

>>16595525
Elon doesn’t owe you or I shit. He said what he said, he stated his side of the story. And it all started because an astronaut went on the public square and openly called Musk a liar without previous provocation

Anonymous No. 16595529

>>16595525
The onus is always on government to prove they are in the right. Elon's a private citizen. SpaceX is a private company. The gov has to prove they are not doing it to politically hurt Musk/SpaceX. Biden admin h as zero credibility with that regard. Negative credibility because they've been actively sabotaging SpaceX/Tesla/BoringCompany/Neuralink/etc.

Anonymous No. 16595530

its’ over
Musk never showed le proof

Anonymous No. 16595532

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJI9Jp8YX8M

Anonymous No. 16595533

>>16595509
Musk claimed SpaceX would work out a way to squeeze it within NASA's budget.
The only reason NASA would turn down the proposal before any talk over cost was they knew they would lost all arguments to reject it once the cost was formally established.

Anonymous No. 16595534

>>16595525
>If a spacex capsule failed and starliner was in service we both know what biden would do you double nigger.
Maybe but I think that's more because Boeing has owned congress for decades rather than partisan bullshit.

>there's also no way to disprove elon's claim either
I don't consider a lack of evidence to be evidence and Musk is 53yo man lying about fucking videogames so I see him as untrustworthy.

The US has a major corruption problem but it isn't a partisan issue, both sides change laws as requested by donors and as of a month ago now donors can just buy political offices to occupy themselves.

Anonymous No. 16595535

>>16595523
You misunderstand the timeline, not as VP. Before biden endorsed kamala as hostile compliance and fucked the party over, they wanted it to go to convention where Kelly would've been a good pick. If you don't think he was a good pick, name someone who had a better chance. Of course after Kamala was endorsed, it became a suicide race and picking kelly for VP would effectively ruin his career and waste him so he's not usable in 2028. So they picked tampon tim.

Anonymous No. 16595536

>>16595534
The dems were selling diplomat slots for decades now

Anonymous No. 16595538

>>16595534
Corruption in US is a partisan issue. You're lying to yourself and to others. Everyone sees it for what your grift is

Anonymous No. 16595539

>>16595532
>they're laughing about elon calling astronauts passengers
its over for the astrocucks

Anonymous No. 16595540

>>16595523
I'm not talking about the Kelly as Kamala's VP thing.

Obama wanted Kelly to be Biden's replacement, Biden named Kamala as his heir before democrats could start the process of picking his replacement.

That is the only reason Kelly's name got floated for VP, but he had no interest in hitching his political future to that trainwreck.

Anonymous No. 16595542

>>16595528
>Elon doesn’t owe you or I shit.

If you're making a claim you have the burden of proof. If you don't have proof at least explain why you believe something in a precise way so people can make up their mind. Elon could believe this narrative for frivolous reasons, or biden put out a cigar on his chest, said "beat it kid" and spun his tires in a mud puddle all over elon. You have no way of knowing unless he says more.

Anonymous No. 16595543

>>16595540
Kelly already became a trainwreck when he entered the political discussion. He tried to accuse Musk of cancelling free Starlink service. Like SHUT THE FUCK UP. Go ask your own president why he's leaking negotiations and stalling negotiations. SpaceX is providing humanitarian services for free. Its not a military service.

Anonymous No. 16595544

>>16595535
No, I understood perfectly and actually agree with biden giving them the finger by publicly endorsing Kamala. But I don’t think Kelly was ever going to be taken as a serious contender for the highest office of the land.
Yeah maybe he would have been one of like 8 people at a convention, should they have called it, but he would have been the blue equivalent of someone like rubio or christie or ted cruz. Someone you see making it far but who isn’t cut out to make it all the way. Dems don’t see him as a serious contender they only see him as, at most, VP material

Anonymous No. 16595545

>>16595540
Obama didn’t want Kelly, you’re smoking crack

Anonymous No. 16595546

>>16595542
With how hostile the Biden admin was about everything Musk related, thats a default safe assumption to make. You would have to prove that Biden wasn't political, which is impossible because that evidence doesnt exist. The counter evidence for Biden being political exists in dozens of cases.

Anonymous No. 16595547

>>16595528
>And it all started because an astronaut went on the public square and openly called Musk a liar without previous provocation

No it started when elon made the claim on hannity. I already think the astronaut should'nt call elon a liar unless you can prove elon is a liar. But in turn if elon is accusing biden of corruption he needs to put everything on the table he can.

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Anonymous No. 16595550

>>16595542
>biden put out a cigar on his chest, said "beat it kid" and spun his tires in a mud puddle all over elon
god I wish this happened. It would be so funny.

Anonymous No. 16595551

>>16595524
RGV Aerial and LabPadre

Anonymous No. 16595552

>>16595547
>I already think the astronaut should'nt call elon a liar unless you can prove elon is a liar.
and he did, in his next post. Not like anyone here can actually do their own research...

Anonymous No. 16595553

>>16595547
Again, what the hell do you want. This evidence likely doesn’t exist as a concrete email chain or a recorded phone call. Musk claimed his side of the story and it’s more likely than not considering how the previous administration jerked him and his companies around. He has more proof than that brain dead astronaut has by calling Musk a liar despite only being an astronaut and not involved with the decision to the degree musk was

Anonymous No. 16595554

>>16595529
They couldn't exonerate themselves either. They would just say "no we didn't get the astronauts immediately because nasa didn't recommend it" and that would be the end of it. If I think they would've done an expedited rescue for a capsule provider that wasn't elon, there's nothing they can show me to change my mind.

Anonymous No. 16595555

>>16595547
Biden's corruption is already on the table. Everyone knows it. We have repeated evidence of it.

Starlink cancellation
Starlink leaks to stop negotiation and paint SpaceX as negative
Investigation into SpaceX for ITAR refugee conflict
Stalling by FAA by a year for Starship over possibility of having to do environmental review
Snubbing of Biden calling HLS moon rocket

Thats just SpaceX related.

Anonymous No. 16595556

>>16595534
>I don't consider a lack of evidence to be evidence and Musk is 53yo man lying about fucking videogames so I see him as untrustworthy.

Yes true, but at the same time, don't trust an astronauts that "knows" the parts he wasn't there for.

Anonymous No. 16595559

>>16595552
His “next post” simply discussed how crew-9 was and is the option. In other words, the sky is blue

Anonymous No. 16595560

>>16595538
>Corruption in US is a partisan issue
I agree that one party is more corrupt but neither have any interest is stopping corruption.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210120160733/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20210205190541/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-pardons-lobbying/2021/02/05/896f0b52-624b-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump

Anonymous No. 16595562

>>16595534
>The US has a major corruption problem but it isn't a partisan issue

If you don't play by the rules it is. Bucking the unions was enough to get elon blackballed by the dems.

Anonymous No. 16595563

every single poster ITT has no idea what they're even talking about anymore and are just pulling made up facts and fantasies out of their asses. Seethe all you want but this is true.

Anonymous No. 16595564

>>16595544
I said name someone else better than him for a reason. You seem to think him being inadequate disqualifies him, but you forgot all democrats are inadequate. Have you ever watched one of their primaries? They literally have no one. A "btw I'm an astronaut" is their best guy.

Anonymous No. 16595565

>>16595563
you are a fully idiotic passenger[cargo]

Anonymous No. 16595566

>>16595552
Yes I saw the non sequitur. We know leaving the astronauts up was cost effective and safe enough for nasa. It has nothing to do with that biden can or can't do.

Anonymous No. 16595567

>>16595563
exactly. none of us were there. none of us have ever been there. we need to shut /sfg/ down because none of us have ever personally flown in space, and it's impossible to have epistemological certainty without direct experience. source: i had epistemological certainty once, and you weren't there.

Anonymous No. 16595568

>>16595563
This general thrives between happenings by arguing trivial differences and semantics. Nuclear vs solar, is starship a spaceplane, were they really stranded…
it’s recreational fun. Some of us are more correct than others

Anonymous No. 16595569

>>16595547
Hannity's interview wasn't the first time Elon has mentioned it, it just gained the most traction.

Anonymous No. 16595570

>>16595248
"Après moi, la Terre seule"

Anonymous No. 16595571

>>16595566
>cost effective
How do you know, and more importantly, how did NASA know? They didn't even ask how much it would cost for SpaceX to rescue them then and not six months later.

Anonymous No. 16595572

>>16595553
What exactly happened when elon approached the administration with his proposal. If there's no evidence then I'm not asking for evidence, just what made elon believe what he believes.

Anonymous No. 16595573

>>16595572
He made it the fuck up

Anonymous No. 16595574

>>16595555
Yeah but the claim wasn't just biden is corrupt. That would be water under the bridge. It's biden left astronauts on a space station away from their families for a year to stick it to elon.

But it doesn't look good for biden either way. Because if that's not true he left astronauts in space for a year to save 100 million dollars or so. I think that would still be unpopular.

Anonymous No. 16595575

>>16595263
just kill yourself and you won't have to keep delusionally seething like this
one instant of pain versus at least 4 more years of this

Anonymous No. 16595576

Our Elon, who innovates in Silicon Valley,
Hallowed be thy stock price.
Thy Mars come, thy tunnels be dug,
On Earth as it is in SpaceX.

Give us this day our daily tweets,
And forgive us our short positions,
As we forgive those who doubt your vision.

Lead us not into combustion,
But deliver us from delays.
For thine is the Tesla, the Neuralink,
And the Dogecoin forever.

Amen.

Anonymous No. 16595577

>>16595572
He’s obviously over embellishing. He said they are stranded, which they aren’t. But i’m still taking his side against an astronaut calling him a liar.
>b-but you are contradicting yourself. The astronaut is calling him a liar for lying!
Yes but this “astronaut” is european and would be nothing without Elon so he needs to learn his place and realize you’re always wrong against an American, period

Anonymous No. 16595578

>>16595560
I dont have all the time. I just read the first 5 list from the wiki list.

>First guy
>An immigration officer who has dedicated 50 years to the service was pardoned for his crimes of "contempt against court".
Not corruption
>2nd
>Pardon of Navy guy who had taken pictures of something he shouldnt have, no real ill intention.
Not corruption
>3rd
>Guy who did some perjury crime of lying, did his time, etc and was pardoned after commuting more than 10 years
Not corruption, just a pardon.
>4th
>Pardoning of an African American boxer that was convicted of going with white woman by racist jury
Definitely not corruption.
>5th
>Guy who lied about $20K donation, not a serious violation and was thus only given 5 year probation
Served 4 years of probations before pardon. Not a real corruption, maybe was sympathetic due to him claiming he was targeted politically. Even if I grant that this is corruption, it barely registers.

Vs

Trillions of dollars in fraud case going on right now. 93% of DC being democrat donor swamp that controlled the federal agencies of the US that was supposed to be non-partisan.

Anonymous No. 16595579

>>16595571
because nasa knows how much a crew dragon mission costs. they've purchased many before. elon saying he'd find a way to squeeze it in nasa's budget is not the same thing as him claiming he'd find a way to make it worth nasa's money. nobody other than you has claimed that spacex was going to price it economically, and you weren't there.

Anonymous No. 16595580

yall bitching about corruption instead of trying to come up with business ideas to expand the industry

Anonymous No. 16595581

>>16595576
Sacrilegious and cringe

Anonymous No. 16595582

>>16595576
you're a fag

Anonymous No. 16595583

>>16595579
NASA never had the opportunity to give input, the Biden admin said no and the option was never considered.

Anonymous No. 16595584

>>16595579
You don't get to claim something is cost prohibitive when you don't even know the cost.

Anonymous No. 16595585

>>16595571
nasa doesn't take a piss without doing math, literally. They absolutely knew how much it would cost to get a capsule up their for rescue rather than waiting for the next crew ride down. But it doesn't matter. I'm trying to talk about what biden would or wouldn't do if he wasn't blackballing elon.

Anonymous No. 16595586

>>16595574
The onus would be on Biden admin to prove their decision wasnt political when everything else surrounding SpaceX was. From demoting and removing Kathy Leuders for picking SpaceX to calling Starlink monopoly. Biden admin was specifically targeting SpaceX in all their decision. So Musk has the absolutely right and default judgement on claiming Biden admin decision was political, he has the supporting evidences to back up his claim. Even if we can never get a mind reading device installed on Biden admin, the external circumstantial evidence, the pattern is enough to easily sway toward as having the right judgement/conclusion on Biden admin being politically corrupt when making the decision.

Anonymous No. 16595587

>>16595553
>The administration needs to prove a negative but poor Elon can't be expected to have actual evidence for claims disputed by literally everyone else except for the EDS
>the previous administration jerked him and his companies around
lol, lmao. You fags really have to repeat this at every point you get for fear someone might actually realise nothing beside the RDOF refusal actually happened. I don't know how you survive with all that doublethink.

Anonymous No. 16595588

>>16595578
>93% of DC being democrat donor swamp
So every 4 to 8 years all corrupt contracts are cancelled by the totally anti-corruption GOP?

You are delusional, the only difference between MAGA and sane people on corruption is sane people know both parties are corrupt but MAGA insist one isn't despite both giving the same contracts to the same companies.

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Anonymous No. 16595589

>>16595588

Anonymous No. 16595591

>>16595583
>source: Felon's geriatric butthole

Anonymous No. 16595592

A friendly reminder that anyone saying a 'rescue' would cost $200 million is relying on you being ignorant of what NASA is paying for in each Crew launch.

Anonymous No. 16595593

>>16595583
>>16595584
>yeah but how do you KNOWWWWWW that elon wouldn't have flown the crew dragon for free if NASA just asked? you don't know that bro! maybe he would've charged negative dollars! even though he's never said anything to indicate this might be even close to true, i can still contrive a scenario in my head where it still makes sense! it worked when i imagined it in my head! you weren't there bro!

Anonymous No. 16595594

>>16595577
>He said they are stranded, which they aren’t.
In common language, yeah that's misleading to the public, which is who he was talking to so that's on elon. But on the other hand how do you say "they were supposed to be in space for 8 days and instead they get shafted to stay almost a year" with less words. If my one week stay on an island became a year I would absolutely call myself stranded unless I'm sipping drinks and getting my dick wet.

Anonymous No. 16595595

>>16595589
Are you shocked a city full of government employees want a status quo government?
It could also be linked to political literacy as Trump is burning alliances that have been built over decades in his first month.

Anonymous No. 16595597

>>16595594
in your scenario you would never even be on the island because whiny feminine fags aren't allowed to take expensive ships out to sea.

Anonymous No. 16595598

>>16595595
City full of gov employees aren't "both sides". Its one side. The corrupt swamp is one party. We saw how corrupt the Biden admin was. How corrupt the media was by lying and covering for everything Biden did. With the covid lie, the hunter biden lie, the lie about the war, the lie about Bidens cognitive decline, the lie about Harris, the edits about Harris, the intense negative coverage of Trump, etc. The corruption is one party and one party only.

Anonymous No. 16595599

>>16595594
In common language "stranded" is accurate wording for Butch and Suni's ride breaking down and their having to wait half a year for someone to come pick them up.

Anonymous No. 16595600

>>16595593
The point, dimwit, is you cannot claim NASA dismissed the offer due to cost, because the cost was never established.

Anonymous No. 16595601

>>16595583
>NASA never had the opportunity to give input, the Biden admin said no and the option was never considered.

Weird how nobody at nasa blew has blown the whistle on that even though it would skyrocket their career overnight

Anonymous No. 16595602

It wouldn't cost NASA anything, they would bill Boing for fixing their problem

Anonymous No. 16595604

>>16595601
Only high level talk was had which likely only consisted of handful of senior Biden people.

Anonymous No. 16595605

>>16595598
>With the covid lie
Covid was under Trump, this is why it's impossible to have serious discussions with you people.

As for the rest YES DEMS ARE CORRUPT, SO ARE PUBS.
I'm, calling for an independent corruption investigation that charges everyone no matter their party. You are insisting only one party is corrupt while the GOPs largest donor is in an office created just for him.

Anonymous No. 16595607

>>16595586
>the accused should prove a negative

No, you're two layers into nonsense there

And again, biden being obviously guilty of some things doesn't mean he's guilty until proven innocent on everything

Anonymous No. 16595608

>>16595600
elon could tell us what his number would have been at any time if he felt so moved. for some reason, he doesn't feel like letting any of us know.
>>16595586
this at least is groping towards the heart of the matter, at least in elon's head: the biden admin gave him unfair treatment, often in ways which were obviously irrational and self-damaging, because they didn't like him. this is obviously true. this much is true. it explains why elon is mad at the biden admin. he has the right.
>So Musk has the absolutely right and default judgement on claiming Biden admin decision was political
however, this is not true. just because the biden admin made a clearly irrational decision designed to fuck over elon in rural broadband, it does not follow that any decisions they make are therefore irrational. with butch and suni, they made a rational decision. that's not the same thing as saying it was the correct decision. it may not have been. but it wasn't an obviously stupid decision either.
i'd be a lot more sympathetic to elon if he stuck to cases where he did legitimately get fucked over instead of making up fake ones because he's mad.

Anonymous No. 16595609

>>16595598
Reminder to always doubt everything everyone tells you, especially when it comes from someone even remotely related to politics, lest you turn into this kind of troglodyte.
There is no honest politician. There never was and there never will be. You have to be either underage or mentally challenged to even consider anything to the contrary.

Anonymous No. 16595610

>>16595598
I hope you at least get paid more than a janitor for this

Anonymous No. 16595611

>>16595594
He should have simply said something along the lines of “they were supposed to be in space for 8 days and instead they get shafted to stay almost a year”

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Anonymous No. 16595612

>>16595305
>flight 9 is 3 months long

Anonymous No. 16595613

>>16595607
He's not guilty of some thing, he's guilty of all things because its not just SpaceX he targetted. Its not just contracts that Biden targetted. Its people in the admin that he targetted that he saw as being favorable to SpaceX for winning the HLS. He targetted Tesla. He targetted Twitter that he bought. He targetted Neuralink by delaying few years. He targetted Boring Company. He targetted everything Musk was involved with. With multiple dozens of lawsuits filed against him.

This isn't once, twice, thrice, 4th, 5th, this is dozens and dozens of times going after Musk on everything. Biden is guilty of EVERYTHING.

Anonymous No. 16595614

>>16594994
He's a sociopath, not autistic. You'd think on a board like /sci/ people would easily be able to determine the difference.

Anonymous No. 16595615

>>16595597
The post doesn't contain any complaints but I'd change your maxipad before you go around calling anons feminine

Anonymous No. 16595616

>>16595326
>the moon
what century are you from?

Anonymous No. 16595617

>>16595594
They were stranded regardless of what you may say. Boeing was their ride. It failed to pass minimum safety standard. The Biden admin choose to not pick the offer from SpaceX. They delayed the decision by nearly half a year before finally accepting the truth.

Anonymous No. 16595619

>>16595599
I can't agree because every normie asked me if the astronauts were going to die and I had to explain that space station is always staffed with crew being shuttled up and down

Anonymous No. 16595621

If you bitch about Trump you're a retard.
If you bitch about the Biden admin you're correct.
Simple as.

Anonymous No. 16595622

>>16595621
four legs good, two legs bad!

Anonymous No. 16595623

>>16595619
People have limits. Normies aren't asking if the space station will die. They're asking if the people that are on the mission are getting screwed over. They are.

Anonymous No. 16595624

>>16595622
Service guarantees citizenship.
You're a wizard, Harry.
We will throw rocks at them.

Anonymous No. 16595625

>>16595365
I don't like that guy

Anonymous No. 16595630

KSA is looking very kino bros

Anonymous No. 16595631

>>16595161
she looks stunning and brave!

Anonymous No. 16595636

>>16595604
If the "no" order comes top down that would leave a trail because everyone who supposed to do an assessment wouldn't have done an assessment. Or they did an assessment and were denied, which is 1000x worse. They could come forward and say the nasa president said no and that's final. It would be a huge scandal.

Here's what happened. Nasa did an assessment and determined it's safe and the cheapest option to leave the astronauts up there. Maybe biden knows its the right thing to do to get them down by paying more money even if its not a safety issue, but doesn't because he's an asshole that hates elon. We'll never know.

Anonymous No. 16595637

>>16595613
Yeah I'm going to accuse him of something else tomorrow and he doesn't even know he's guilty of that yet. lmao

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Anonymous No. 16595638

>>16595630
After KSP2 and Nate Simpson completely failing to understand what people want I'm so happy we are getting KSA.

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Anonymous No. 16595639

In other news.

https://spacenews.com/pld-space-signs-agreement-to-launch-from-spaceport-in-oman/

A European spaceport in Oman.

Anonymous No. 16595640

>>16595636
The determination wasn't made until atleast months later. Prior to that, if SpaceX had made the offer earlier and was rejected outright, then they didn't do any assessment or determination on the safety/cost factor and was dismissed outright as non-politically viable option. Non politically viable because 1) Biden optics 2) Boeing optics.

Anonymous No. 16595642

>>16595617
Understand the post. If you understand the situation, "stranded" is fine. If you don't know shit about space like most people "standed" is misleading.

Anonymous No. 16595643

>>16595642
Its not misleading. You just dont like the implication.

Anonymous No. 16595645

>>16595636
If the Biden admin said "no" then no assessment would have been performed let alone requested, NASA wouldn't be involved.

Anonymous No. 16595647

>>16595636
>Nasa did an assessment and determined it's safe and the cheapest option
Did they? Show the assessment made.

Anonymous No. 16595648

>>16595623
Well maybe normies in your life know more about space

Anonymous No. 16595649

>>16595648
They are more than sensible, even if they cant communicate. The instincts are in the right place.

Anonymous No. 16595650

>>16595434
you're trolling and a retard and you will be put in a railcar

Anonymous No. 16595651

>>16595623
>They're asking if the people that are on the mission are getting screwed over
Only the crew know that, sadly astronauts can't speak openly without risking their jobs so if they say they are happy to get more time people assume they are lying but they could actually be happy to get more time.

Anonymous No. 16595652

>>16595645
what part of a lot of people would notice this and blow the whistle do you not understand

Anonymous No. 16595653

>>16595651
Not just risking their job, but also their pride, and sense of common goods.

Anonymous No. 16595654

>>16595449
me (temporarily embarrassed Martian)

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16595655

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1893070697993236724

Anonymous No. 16595656

>>16595652
>lot of people would notice this and blow the whistle
I am pressing X to express doubt in this conclusion.

Anonymous No. 16595657

>>16595647
Again, if they didn't determine the best course of action formally any whistleblower could come forward and be a maga hero and skyrocket their career. You're asking the wrong guy.

Anonymous No. 16595658

>>16595639
sounds reasonable? oman is really stable as far as middle eastern countries go.

Anonymous No. 16595659

>>16595643
Yeah I don't like that it implies something that's not correct to normal people who don't know anything about space. Shake hands on it

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Anonymous No. 16595660

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1893077546935201834

Anonymous No. 16595661

>>16595640
Biden's ass is covered then. He or anyone else defending him can always claim biden said no to elon/spacex because the white house was waiting on nasa's determination that wasn't finished yet.

Anonymous No. 16595663

>>16595661
If NASA was trying to determine, then all options would be on the table.

Anonymous No. 16595664

>>16595657
>whistleblower could come forward and be a maga hero and skyrocket their career
yeah exactly like those boeing whistleblowers who skyrocketed straight into heaven

Anonymous No. 16595666

>>16595524
>pictured: two autists posting at each other

Anonymous No. 16595668

>>16595656
You're an idiot. I'm not saying this to hurt your feelings. You're saying no one at nasa would both notice no meetings were held and no internal experts were consulted about a high profile problem concerning the safety of astronauts that became international news, and a new administration is in town blowing shit up and salivating to hear about it.

Anonymous No. 16595669

>>16595652
>if it happened why didn't anyone know

You mean like the inorganic top down push against using the term "stranded"?

Anonymous No. 16595671

>>16595668
99% of NASA wouldnt be privy to the discussion in the first place. If it was politically sensitive, then experts wouldnt be in the picture at all. They can be later on, but for the initial stages, it can just be denied out of conveniences as they have more than enough time to deny and give Boeing/Biden leeway

Anonymous No. 16595672

>>16595663
If the Biden admin said "no" then it would never get to the point where NASA would even consider making a determination.

Anonymous No. 16595673

>>16595594
They're not stranded. They just choose not to teleport home.

Anonymous No. 16595674

>>16595672
Biden admin's default was already no for SpaceX/Musk. Thats why SpaceX was rejected outright before determination was taken place. The thought of Musk even winning or suggesting he could do it, yes, himself, all by himself, would have been absolutely abhorent to Biden admin. The Ballast absolutely refused to speak the word "SpaceX" for the first year. Need I remind you.

Anonymous No. 16595675

>>16595663
Your point being? The white house could ask nasa if they could bring the astronauts home with a new ride ASAP, but nasa would already be exploring that option in their assessment and would tell the white house if that was necessary for safety. Again we don't even know how the whitehouse said no to elon because he never described that part of the story. It could've been "no, not right now" or "go kick rocks fag lmao", either of which could be interpreted is go fuck yourself by elon.

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Anonymous No. 16595676

>>16595595
>political literacy

Anonymous No. 16595677

>>16595664
Well this would be biden's fault, not boeing, so they don't give a shit

Anonymous No. 16595678

>>16595675
"Go after him"
"Good luck with your moon rocket"
"I hate Billionaires"

Thats a no.

Anonymous No. 16595679

>>16595623
The space station is going to die in less than two years. Bring that fucker down

Anonymous No. 16595680

>>16595668
>I'm not saying this to hurt your feelings
Post your tits, lady.

Anonymous No. 16595682

>>16595636
>argument by fantasy
why do we suddenly have so many retarded faggots?
I know there were always a few, but it's like we have 10 retards at all times now
is this what all the fired federal employees are doing with their time?

Anonymous No. 16595683

>>16595669
I know what CYA is. Language in press statements is not comparable to not doing a risk assessment before leaving astronauts in space for a year. That's worlds apart.

Anonymous No. 16595684

>>16595660
OH NO NO NO

Anonymous No. 16595685

>>16595658
>euro spaceflight
>reasonable
why do they have to go to oman to launch imaginary rockets?

Anonymous No. 16595687

>>16595685
maybe launching from the US is too much of a hassle

Anonymous No. 16595688

>>16595671
You're still talking about dozens of people across different teams. The best conspiracy you could dream up is they did a safety assessment and then the top people at the table ignored it. That conspiracy requires the lest number of people of the highest rank. But to say no assessment happened is full retard

Anonymous No. 16595689

>>16595675
Why would the Biden admin ask NASA after telling SpaceX "no".

Anonymous No. 16595690

>>16595673
>everyone at sea is stranded

Anonymous No. 16595691

>>16595688
You're saying that the Biden admin wouldn't be able to install few dozen loyalists in their admin and remove anyone who would be seen as a threat? Wow. They must really be incompetent. All other president can change tens of thousands of employees at will.

Anonymous No. 16595693

What I think likely happened: The NASA administration weighed the options, ideally wanted to return them on Starliner to save face for Boeing and turn the whole thing into a nothingburger, but figured the chance of a possible disaster this close to an election where Bill—chosen by Biden and therefore optically a democrat NASA administration—would get the blame for Columbia 2.0 when the news cycle was already run amok with boeing planes being dangerous, would absolutely tank Kamala for the public. They weighed the options, didn’t even give a shit what the Biden administration said or thought (maybe they consulted with them directly, maybe not; but my point is that this was probably purely a Ballast Bill & Co. consideration and he was rooting for kamala and knew she didn’t need bad press) so NASA independent decided the best course of action was to defer it to a Crew Dragon return that would take place AFTER the election.
It’s a middle ground solution. No one knew who was gonna win the election so kicking it down the road made it a “later problem”. Yeah it sucked for boeing optically but it meant they could avoid the phrase “rescue mission” and instead just say they were shuffling things around to be safe. They figured yeah it sucks to turn Butch and Suni’s planned 8-day stay into a 6-month stay but it was logistically possible and both astronauts were probably briefed and told it was the best thing to do considering all the factors.
It was somewhat foolish of Musk to go on the media tour recently and say “they were left for dead, they were stranded”
Yes I think NASA could have chartered a Dragon to pick them up earlier, but they were trying to avoid the optics of them needing to be “saved” immediately.

Anonymous No. 16595694

>>16595685
Because Europe is a terrible place to launch rockets from and because of that they have almost exclusively used French territory in South America.

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Anonymous No. 16595695

>>16595690
>they could row back to shore at any time

Anonymous No. 16595697

>>16595672
Biden saying no doesn't prevent nasa from doing an assessment. That would just be extremely dangerous for biden. What if the assessment determined that the astronauts could easily die with egg all over biden's face. He would want to know that.

Anonymous No. 16595698

>>16595693
They avoided one optics to fall to another. The second is lot worse because its got a lot more evidence due to Biden admin consistently, aggressively, and incessantly targeting Musk.

Anonymous No. 16595702

>>16595697
>That would just be extremely dangerous for biden
It wouldn't, and it wasn't

>He would want to know that
He very much did not care in the slightest.

Hostile officials in the White House said no because of political reasons, and that was as far as it went

Anonymous No. 16595704

>>16595697
>Biden saying no doesn't prevent nasa from doing an assessment

Actually it does.

Anonymous No. 16595707

>>16595689
They don't have to ask. Nasa would tell them what needs to be done, and eventually they tell the public. But the whitehouse would want to know regardless because if the astronauts were in danger and something happened the political fallout would be huge. Imagine if the whitehouse told elon no, one of the astronauts gets sick in serious condition, then we found out nasa was told not to consider expedited rescue like some anons are suggesting here. Biden would be FUCKED all because he denied himself information. It makes no sense. If he told elon "no" it was always "no unless nasa tells me I have to use your help"

Anonymous No. 16595709

>>16595693
If they were ever in any real danger I don’t doubt Bill would have had SX go pick them up early. Even if the Biden administration started seething, I think Bill would have been there for his boys and girls and told the biden admin to get fucked and to stop worrying about political optics. He wasn’t ever anti-spacex

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>>16595695
>they could row back to shore at any time

Anonymous No. 16595711

Someone just needs to put in a FOIA request for “any and all information related to the decision-making process for the return of the crew of Boe-CFT”

Anonymous No. 16595712

>>16595693
>It was somewhat foolish of Musk to go on the media tour recently and say “they were left for dead

did he really say this

Anonymous No. 16595713

>>16595707
I do love the absolute denial of the possibility that an admin which sued SpaceX for obeying the law would make other politically motivated decisions.

Anonymous No. 16595717

>>16595711
[spoiler]enjoy your black bars[/spoiler]

Anonymous No. 16595718

>>16595702
I've noticed all the conspiracy theorists who know the mosts about conspiracies would immediately fail if they ever tried one lmao

Anonymous No. 16595719

>>16595707
>Biden would be FUCKED
At what point in his presidency was Biden ever in any way effected by public opinion? The operant policy of the Biden white house was that public opinion (and reality) was whatever they felt it was. Biden was "sharp as a tack" because they said he was. The economy was doing great because they said it was.

How are you too dumb to understand this shit?

Anonymous No. 16595720

>>16595713
They were sued for not obeying the law. US Person != US Citizen

Anonymous No. 16595721

>>16595704
Telling elon no isn't even a communication let alone a command to nasa

Anonymous No. 16595724

>>16595719
>At what point in his presidency was Biden ever in any way effected by public opinion?

November

Anonymous No. 16595725

>>16595720
Which is why SpaceX won the case my sweet summer child.

Anonymous No. 16595726

>>16595713
strawman. Politically motivated decisions = retard decisions.

Anonymous No. 16595728

>>16595724
Valid

Anonymous No. 16595729

In the simplest terms this whole discussion boils down to:
Keeping them on the Station as long as they did was a retarded decision.
Was it a cost thing or a political thing? Trying to save money by skipping an immediate evac, or trying to save face by denying Elon a heroic rescue in a frenzied election cycle

Anonymous No. 16595730

>>16595693
Why do you think the election played any role at all
Why do you keep ignoring all the real issues that an extra mission would've caused that are easily avoided by the solution in place

Anonymous No. 16595732

>>16595721
>telling Elon no isn't a communication with NASA

You are so close to to understanding.

Anonymous No. 16595735

>>16595730
Name the real issues, and keep >>16595592 in mind.

Anonymous No. 16595736

>>16595725
>DoJ of the administration that Musk bought dropping the case means SpaceX won the case
Bribing the cops to get them off your back after you broke the law doesn't mean you didn't break the law

Anonymous No. 16595737

>>16595732
That this thread is in /sci/ and /sci/ is in this thead?

Anonymous No. 16595738

>>16595730
I’m am WAY too intoxicated on some heavy hitting stouts to try and decipher what the fuck you are asking. Rephrase it in simpler terms without typos lol

Anonymous No. 16595740

>>16595736
Corrupt officer being removed = corrupt case being dropped

Anonymous No. 16595741

>>16595730
Had there been an actual assessment within NASA that looked into the actual cost of a rescue mission and then reached a conclusion to not do it. Musk is saying there wasn't because NASA never asked SpaceX for a quote. Do you know of any?

Anonymous No. 16595742

>>16595730
>Why do you keep ignoring all the real issues that an extra mission would've caused that are easily avoided by the solution in place

Arent most of these problems deleted by a new capsule?

Anonymous No. 16595743

>>16595729
But it wasn't a retarded decision, it was the decision that maximises science work and minimises friction, i.e. the logical one from the standpoint of actually running a space station instead of only thinking about what it will look like to the public.

Anonymous No. 16595744

>>16595729
>Keeping them on the Station as long as they did was a retarded decision.
how do you know this? what did it cost nasa to keep them up there for this long? a few million bucks in overtime pay? i'm sure they wished they could have come down earlier, but that's no basis for running a space agency.
>trying to save face by denying Elon a heroic rescue in a frenzied election cycle
this is another point where the elon apologist case falls apart. how would it have been heroic? their lives weren't in danger. the only danger they were facing was that they were going to be inconvenienced by having to stay on the ISS longer than they wanted. it sounds fun to say "rescue mission" but in practice everyone would have gotten bored with it after a day. i'm sure elon likes to imagine that he would've gotten lauded as butch and suni's savior, but that says more about his own psychology than it does about nasa decision-making.

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Anonymous No. 16595746

>>16595741
>Musk is saying there wasn't because NASA never asked SpaceX for a quote

Did he actually say this or is it just implied? Does it matter when nasa knows the price of a crew dragon? So we're effectively pointing out nasa didn't come to elon to ask if he would do a discount or something? And at this point do I see the biden meddling if nasa did an assessment of leaving the astronauts on the station for the next ride and determined the safety risk was acceptable, and a new capsule would never be cheaper than that, so they didn't ask elon?

Anonymous No. 16595747

>>16595743
>>16595744
if NASA crunched the numbers and realized it was cheaper to just keep them up there for six months versus paying for another dedicated crew dragon, then so be it. Butch and Suni got the short end of the stick, but it was something I suppose they planned for in contention. And then yeah, Musk trying to use this as a cheap political win or whatever on hannity was dumb.
I won’t go as far as to say it was appropriate for an astronaut to call Elon a liar publicly though. That’s a separate discussion (and it was very inappropriate, and no wonder Musk called him a retard—that’s a very elon thing to do lol)

Anonymous No. 16595749

>>16595735
>>16593261 (make the cost whatever you believe it would cost)

>>16595738
I can't help you if you cannot read.

>>16595741
Cost is not the only issue at hand. Musk is saying they didn't consider his offer, but besides his credibility that doesn't mean the possibility of sending up another Dragon wasn't considered independent of that, in fact for a short while there were some rumours of exactly this.

>>16595742
Only the ones of possibly having an extended time of understaffing, all the scheduling issues and unnecessary effort remain.

>>16595740
Even if the officer was corrupt, SpaceX still broke the law.

Anonymous No. 16595750

I'm working on the dragon upgrades program for the next crew dragon. it's not ready you morons.

E lied about vidya, if he just says something that doesn't mean it is true

Anonymous No. 16595752

Astronauts need to learn to shut up and fall in line. That’s the real issue here.

Anonymous No. 16595753

>>16595750
How soon would Endurance have been ready when Starliner happened?

Anonymous No. 16595754

>>16595750
are you gonna use the ISS deorbit dragon to redirect the asteroid?

Anonymous No. 16595755

>>16595753
2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16595757

>>16595750
hurry the fuck up then

Anonymous No. 16595758

>>16595747
Nasa's decision is irrelevant though. Biden could bring them home sooner at extra cost, and elon is accusing him of not doing it for political reasons. The crime scene is inside biden's mind, not nasa. There's no proof of elon "using the situation for a cheap political win" even if it could be true, that's why you can't call him a liar and back it up. IDGAF if its an astronaut doing it.

Anonymous No. 16595759

>>16595750
flavour now

Anonymous No. 16595761

>>16595749
>all the scheduling issues and unnecessary effort remain.

The rescheduling happened because you had to delay crew to bring home the astronauts on an existing capsule. If new capsule go up, new capsule go down, it's closer to if butch and sunni just left on the boing.

Anonymous No. 16595762

>>16595758
But why should he do that when there is no point? Why should he interfere with NASA's decision which would surely draw actually legitimate ire?

Anonymous No. 16595763

>>16595736
>Bribing the cops to get them off your back

Do you have any idea of how much cope you are huffing right now?

Anonymous No. 16595764

>>16595761
That still requires getting a launch planned with all associated ISS issues, plus you still need the new suits. It's all academic anyways because there was no new capsule.

Anonymous No. 16595765

>>16595763
>New administration comes in
>Case against prominent megadonor suddenly dropped
Do you? This is as simple as 1+1.

Anonymous No. 16595766

>>16595753
It should have and could have been ready by then. Time between flights is typically 8 to 12 months. Endurance last flew Aug 2023. Starliner CFT flew 10 months after this.

Anonymous No. 16595767

>>16595758
>The crime scene is inside biden's mind, not nasa.
even if elon's version of events was true biden would have had no personal involvement. he's never evinced any interest or knowledge of spaceflight. frankly, he had more pressing things on his mind during june/july/august 2024 than the boeing starliner. IF anything even remotely like this happened, it would've been some deputy chief of staff making a phone call to some nameless aide to ballast.

Anonymous No. 16595768

>>16595764
Wait so the launch infrastructure can't handle an extra dragon? Are you sure about this? niggetGPT tells me the fastest turnaround at LC-39A was 27 hours with falcon 9s

They still require new suits to ride down on the already scheduled dragon, just with less time pressure as an expedited rescue.

Anonymous No. 16595769

>>16595758
Nah sorry bro, I’m a 2 and love Elon but I’m not buying it. Why the fuck is this Biden’s prerogative to demand all this money to be spent to “bring them home” like they’re hamas prisoners or something lmao. NASA said too bad so sad butch and suni, we aren’t comfortable putting you on starliner and the easiest way to do this is to just keep you there and send you back on a reshuffled Crew-10

Anonymous No. 16595770

>>16595764
>It's all academic anyways because there was no new capsule.

So maybe we shouldn't make shit up that a new capsule was unpossible

Anonymous No. 16595771

>>16595758
This post is so retarded made me flip-flop on the discussion. You should feel ashamed at how dumb you are

Anonymous No. 16595772

flame trench unhinged today

Anonymous No. 16595773

>>16595765
The case was already over before the election my coping friend.

Anonymous No. 16595774

>>16595772
why would a trench need a hinge?

Anonymous No. 16595775

>>16595771
A new capsule wasn't required, it is a
straw grasp.

Anonymous No. 16595777

For the sake of argument let’s reframe it. Let’s assume Musk was out there campaigning for Kamala. Holding town halls in swing states to get get Her™ elected. Being a superlib trying to get as many migrants in as possible, as many men transitioned as possible, tripling USAID…
Would Butch and Suni be back on Earth right now? Saved with a Dragon 2 before the election?

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Anonymous No. 16595778

soon

Anonymous No. 16595779

>>16595769
Biden doesn't have a budget, so the cost is nothing to him. I agree the political win of bringing home astronauts is small too, but it's a feel good executive order of not fucking over astronauts and the public would like it, so it would improve chances of re-election no matter how small. Cheapskating on astronauts pushing 60s years old when you whore out for everyone else isn't good optically. I think the age really looks bad. These astronauts have seen this and done that and they don't need a surprise purgatory from friends and family when young astronauts would jump at 9 months on the ISS.

Now if the solution is building a new boing capsule he would sign that shit instantly, but that would also be political so I'm not sure it means much.

Anonymous No. 16595781

#FuckMars

Anonymous No. 16595782

>>16595771
Other than I don't care an astronaut threw shade at elon, I only stated facts and not opinions. If you're injured that's not on me

Anonymous No. 16595783

>>16595768
What? No, that's not what I'm saying. Just that having a capsule available isn't the be-all end-all because you still need to schedule everything, make the suits, and expend time that you otherwise could use elsewhere because it's just not needed (the suits are needed either way though). More importantly by not sending the capsule on a near-pointless retrieval, you can use it for another mission. The fact that Endurance would just barely maybe have been ready and that fram2 now gets delayed because the new Dragon isn't ready shows that capsule time is surprisingly tight so you'd really rather only fly when absolutely necessary.

>>16595770
Sorry, I don't know what you're trying to say. There was no new capsule at the time, if there was (C213 was probably already under construction, but it still isn't ready so it definitely wasn't then), it'd have helped but that still doesn't necessarily make sending it up to get Butch and Suni the most logical solution. There simply are more factors that go into it.

Anonymous No. 16595784

>>16595775
Bringing them home as soon as possible isn't required either. You can't remember what we're talking about

Anonymous No. 16595785

>>16595777
maybe? but if they'd pulled the trigger on a "rescue" mission it still would've been a dumb and wasteful decision. if the point you're trying to make is that democrats are bad and hypocrites fine, but you could make that point better without using sophistry to cover for stupid shit that elon says.

Anonymous No. 16595786

>>16595773
sure

Anonymous No. 16595788

>>16595777
Probably not, because NASA made the decision, not the White House.

Anonymous No. 16595792

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-could-cut-ukraines-access-starlink-internet-services-over-minerals-say-2025-02-22/

>U.S. negotiators pressing Kyiv for access to Ukraine's critical minerals have raised the possibility of cutting the country's access to Elon Musk's vital Starlink satellite internet system, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.
>Ukraine's continued access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, the sources said.
>Starlink provides crucial internet connectivity to war-torn Ukraine and its military.
>The issue was raised again on Thursday during meetings between Keith Kellogg, the U.S. special Ukraine envoy, and Zelenskiy, said one of the sources, who was briefed on the talks.
>During the meeting, Ukraine was told it faced imminent shutoff of the service if it did not reach a deal on critical minerals, said the source, who requested anonymity to discuss closed negotiations.
>"Ukraine runs on Starlink. They consider it their North Star," said the source. "Losing Starlink ... would be a massive blow."

Anonymous No. 16595795

>>16595792
the deal's gonna be signed as soon as tomorrow so this is kinda moot

Anonymous No. 16595799

>>16595795
Probably, tho you never know with how stubborn Zelensky can be.

Anonymous No. 16595800

>>16595690
some people at sea are in fucking boats, you absolute nigger
just so I don't have to spell it out for you in another post: the ISS cannot land

Anonymous No. 16595801

>>16595730
>all the real issues that an extra mission would've caused
that you admit you don't know if anyone actually did a study on
that you are making up out of whole cloth

I cannot stress this enough: kill yourself

Anonymous No. 16595802

>>16595792
>It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal

Anonymous No. 16595803

>>16595792
this was said days ago

Anonymous No. 16595805

>>16595801
Anon, I don't need a study to determine that not sending an extra mission up there is clearly simpler than doing it, I'm not NASA. If you engage your brain you may even be able to make your own assessment instead of being told what to think. Novel concept, I know. >>16593261

Anonymous No. 16595806

>>16595777
>For the sake of argument let’s reframe it.

The decision would have been left to NASA to make rather than the Biden admin flatly shooting it down.

Anonymous No. 16595807

>>16595788
NASA was not part of the decision, this is what the EDS crowd is in denial about.

Anonymous No. 16595808

>>16595800
Yeah so don't say anyone who doesn't have the option to teleport home is stranded

Anonymous No. 16595810

>>16595792
America's negotiators are mad at Zelensky because he lied about what happened during their meeting(s).

Anonymous No. 16595811

>>16595807
wtf is this new delusion? We know that NASA made the decision, every available source corroborates this. Are you really just going to deny reality now?

Anonymous No. 16595813

>>16595693
>a democrat NASA administration—would get the blame for Columbia 2.0 when the news cycle was already run amok with boeing planes being dangerous, would absolutely tank Kamala for the public.
This makes too much sense to not be what actually happened.

Anonymous No. 16595814

>>16595806
Just because biden shooting down NASA is implausible doesn't mean he couldn't intervene for an expedited return. If elon was eating out kamala's furry critter every night and biden wanted butch and sunni back in time for sunday service, nasa can't say no. They can say "b-b-but mr president-" and that's about it.

Anonymous No. 16595815

>>16595795
Lol no.

>>16595799
Trump has offered the same deal Putin did a year ago with the only difference being Trump wants rare earths.
Why the fuck would Ukraine agree to that when the US is only ~30% of their support?

Anonymous No. 16595818

>>16595807
Hit [Return] or [Catalog] there to go back to /sci/

Anonymous No. 16595819

>>16595781
How?

Anonymous No. 16595820

>>16595807
>NASA astronauts aren't transported by NASA
Kek, the delusion is next level. Think of it this way, I travel a lot for work and my employer books and pays for my fights, same thing for NASA and their astronauts.

Anonymous No. 16595821

>>16595819
kek

Anonymous No. 16595822

>>16595815
protip for winning arguments on the internet: don't take a position that something can't possibly happen immediately after the wall street journal has reported that is going to happen within days.

Anonymous No. 16595823

>>16595822
>the wall street journal
So Rupert Murdoch can see the future?

Anonymous No. 16595825

>>16595823
a hell of a lot better than you can, yeah.

Anonymous No. 16595827

>>16595825
But I knew the GWOT was a mistake in 2001.

Anonymous No. 16595828

>>16595813
I was telling anons that something bad happening to the astronauts would be, shockingly, bad for the administration. And that was the most outrageous they had ever heard. We all know biden ordered that butch and sunni would wait for the next ride, also flight surgeons anyone seen doing napkin calculations were taken to an empty house with a marlin on the wall.

Anonymous No. 16595835

>>16595769
>Why the fuck is this Biden’s prerogative to demand all this money to be spent to “bring them home” like they’re hamas prisoners or something lmao.

Actually consider the political risk. If astronauts fall ill on a normal mission, that's life. If astronauts fall ill on a mishap extended mission and you had the ability to retrieve them, and a political adversary asked you to do it, your risk exposure just went up.

But the biden adminstration probably determined that pissing off boeing and the unions by giving elon/spacex a win was more dangerous.

Anonymous No. 16595837

>>16595818
>>16595820
>>16595811
>the Biden admin telling Elon "no" was actually NASA telling Elon "no"

Anonymous No. 16595838

>>16595835
this is a danger to any and all crew on the station, ever. At this point you fools are just writing your own fanfiction

Anonymous No. 16595839

Dumbest draw out topic of the year award

Anonymous No. 16595840

>>16595839
it's only february

Anonymous No. 16595842

So back to the topic, wen starship

Anonymous No. 16595843

>>16595842
two weeks

Anonymous No. 16595844

>>16595837
>Actual statement
>NASA was not part of the decision

>you trying to reframe it
>the Biden admin telling Elon "no" was actually NASA telling Elon "no"

NASA were the ones that said they didn't want people coming back on Starliner in the first place.

Anonymous No. 16595845

>>16595815
>US is only ~30% of their support?
Lol
US intelligence, reconaissance, communication and logistics are unsurpassed.
Remove these and there's no hope ever of anything more than localised counterattacks, and strategic bombing becomes much harder
Remove these + US normalize with russia (which they plan to) and the one hope of russian economic collapse is gone.
At which point every passing day just makes your side weaker in an attrition battle until you sue for peace.

Anonymous No. 16595846

>>16595842
next wednesday

Anonymous No. 16595847

>>16595842
100% next week because the last three flights have been at the most inconvenient time for me, and this pattern of intense suffering will only continue

Anonymous No. 16595850

>>16595847
Chad Starship dabbing on this Anon in particular

Anonymous No. 16595858

For anyone chiming in late, having missed hundreds of posts, don't bother reading anything above this line.
you're welcome

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Anonymous No. 16595859

I want glenny to launch again. and I want it to stick the landing this time

Anonymous No. 16595862

>>16595858
Unironically though

Anonymous No. 16595864

>>16595862
Because I just read 400 useless posts, and now I want my time back.
Learned nothing, I'm dumber now

Anonymous No. 16595866

***IMPORTANT CLEAR MESSAGE***
https://x.com/clearusui/status/1892966094198952342/photo/1

Anonymous No. 16595867

>>16595866
Stop, my penis can only get so erect

Anonymous No. 16595869

>>16595866
what if clear is actually the emperor’s eldest daughter and you breed the entire nation of japan back from the grave with her and she takes full political control and makes you the new emperor with her and you can run JAXA like a factorio sweatshop and you can become top competitor to spacex ha ha

Anonymous No. 16595870

>>16595838
That's the second sentence of my post. Why did you skip over it dipshit? Optically, the 60 year astronauts are supposed to be there for 8 days not 9 months.

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Anonymous No. 16595875

Artemis is progressing.
Elon is preoccupied.
Artemis II will fly before Starship HLS at this rate.
(do not reply to me if you are autistic)

Anonymous No. 16595877

>>16595875
See this is why vanilla artemis was ngmi. You are excited about it but want to exclude autists. This is how you wind up with 20 year delays and shit products.
Your program has gotta be nominally 80% autistic and chalk-full of autism

Anonymous No. 16595879

the great pivoting begins https://spacenews.com/abl-space-renamed-long-wall-as-it-shifts-focus-to-defense-market/

Anonymous No. 16595880

>>16595879
ok so then what did abl stand for?

Anonymous No. 16595884

>>16595879
this is the second one to change the lane, right? i remember reading about another one earlier

Anonymous No. 16595890

>>16595884
That might very well have been abl, too, they announced it a while ago and are making it more official now I guess.

Anonymous No. 16595894

>>16595847
Thanks, can you post your schedule for the year so we know when to expect starship launches then?

Anonymous No. 16595898

>>16595879
It is too bad that ABL's rocked burned down twice, they had some interesting ideas like fueling the second stage through the first stage.

Anonymous No. 16595922

all these fucking retards had better be gone when I come back for the launch

Anonymous No. 16595927

>>16595922
You’ll be stuck with a whole new batch of retards I’m afraid.

Anonymous No. 16595940

>>16594952
>>16594972

>Master grifter and attention whore using media influence to justify grifting even more money off of taxpayers.
water
wet

Anonymous No. 16595942

>>16594985
>H1B good
>Juan the Janitor Bad
>REE ITAR
This is your brain on Elon Musk.
Fun fact: ITAR is about export compliance not corporate hiring.
Rockets aren't classified--the shit they launch is. Still not covered by ITAR because, again, that's about export compliance.

Anonymous No. 16595944

>>16594986
>Only libcucks hate musk the grifter
This is your brain on Twitter.

Anonymous No. 16595946

>>16595018
They basically stick to /sfg/
Pretty sure it's a bunch of H1Bs and they're very retarded.

Anonymous No. 16595956

/sfg/ is "fully retarded"

Anonymous No. 16595964

>>16595942
>In addition to actual shipment of a commodity out of the country, the export regulations also control the transfer, release, or disclosure to foreign persons in the United States of technical data about controlled commodities. The "deemed export" regulation states that a transfer of "technology" (EAR term) or "technical data" (ITAR term) to the foreign person is "deemed" to be an export to the home country of the foreign person.
why would you lie like this?

Anonymous No. 16595968

>>16594942
>Still no booster rollout
It won't happen next week...........

Anonymous No. 16595974

>>16595956
white males are the most oppressed demographic in the west

Anonymous No. 16595998

>>16595974
soon.

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Anonymous No. 16596003

Q4 REPORT IS OUT!!!!111!1!1!!
https://brycetech.com/briefing

Anonymous No. 16596004

>>16596003
can we get the full year 2024 totals?

Anonymous No. 16596005

>>16596003
spacex's share of total global upmass by quarter:
q1 87%
q2 87%
q3 86%
q4 84%
spacex has peaked. it's over.

Anonymous No. 16596006

>>16596005
This is really bad. Elon forgot about SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16596015

>>16595792
>reuters
>experts say

Anonymous No. 16596017

>>16595859
They expected the catch first time, it's going to be a long while

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Anonymous No. 16596022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whV8dJrDgbs
>Why SpaceX Was Forced To Completely Redesign Stage Zero! | Part 2

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Anonymous No. 16596028

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1893082675692380330

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Anonymous No. 16596029

>>16596028

Anonymous No. 16596033

>>16595875
SLS is so fucking kino.
Even if it isn't there

Anonymous No. 16596040

>>16596022
>inb4 OLM2 is not reusable either

Anonymous No. 16596043

>>16596040
making it easily removable for refurbishment would still be a improvement for cadence as you could have multiple pads that cycle

Anonymous No. 16596047

Incredible how weak Elon is to bait, like a few dedicated shitposters could probably get him to kill himself

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Anonymous No. 16596051

This is the right hand man to the leader of the free world

Anonymous No. 16596061

The ISS decommission talk has made me realize the flaw in the old argument about how NASA was wrong to end the shuttle early and have a gap in capability. The flaw is the idea that NASA (or really, Congress) would have properly funded commercial cargo and commercial crew while the shuttle was still flying. You see that situation playing out now where commercial space stations aren't getting nearly enough funding to be viable while the ISS is still active.

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Anonymous No. 16596066

Next Space Station should have artificial gravity

Anonymous No. 16596068

>>16596061
yeah and does it really matter if the US has a gap of a year or two knowing that a bunch of private stations will be coming soon and Starship for instance which can be used as stations too

Anonymous No. 16596074

>>16595942
>ITAR with rocket companies is not about controlling rocket technology

Holy shit anon this goes way beyond never go full retard.

Anonymous No. 16596079

>>16596022
It's amazing that he has put this much effort into trying to convince everyone that the Tower B OLM will be mobile.

Anonymous No. 16596080

>>16595942
>Rockets aren't classified--the shit they launch is.
wrong.

Anonymous No. 16596086

>>16595942
Tranny brain

Anonymous No. 16596090

>>16596086
but enough about you

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Anonymous No. 16596096

Another passenger thinks his retard opinions are worth sharing publicly

Anonymous No. 16596097

>>16596096
god I hate these drooling retards

Anonymous No. 16596098

>>16596096
EDS
Ukraine flag
Euro commies
Trannies

They are still living in a fantasy world. They haven't realized Trump won. That Musk won.

Anonymous No. 16596099

>wake up
>/sfg/ is having a meltdown
>go to sleep
>/sfg/ is still having a meltdown
>wake up
>/sfg/ is STILL having a meltdown
either this general is filled with bots or you niggers have been fully mindbroken

Anonymous No. 16596101

>>16596099
There are plenty of reddit trannies.

Anonymous No. 16596104

>>16596101
yeah, plenty of /pol/ trannies too. As I said, mindbroken. Normal, calm people don't spend two days sperging out over a twitter post

Anonymous No. 16596106

>>16596097
>>16596098
When I stumbled onto Virts' podcast years ago, I thought he seemed like an alright guy. But very quickly I learned how stupid he was, and it kinda broke the façade for me about astronauts being the best and brightest among us.

Anonymous No. 16596107

>>16596106
link to the podcast?

Anonymous No. 16596108

>>16596104
Dilate

Anonymous No. 16596110

>>16596108
this isn't your blog, sperg

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Anonymous No. 16596111

>>16596104
>Normal, calm people

Anonymous No. 16596113

>>16596107
https://youtu.be/0ju8aiyFKvU

Anonymous No. 16596116

>>16596110
Ok Zubrin

Anonymous No. 16596118

>>16596111
>he thinks brainrotted faggots on twitter and reddit are normal
least deluded /sfg/ poster

Anonymous No. 16596119

>post astronaut being stupid
>ukrainophile anon goes fucking nuts
yep, that's euro hours for ya

Anonymous No. 16596120

>>16596104
Castrating yourself does that right? I can smell your axewound

Anonymous No. 16596122

Astronauts being treated as a priest class that talks for the God by the castrated communist people is hilarious.

Anonymous No. 16596123

>>16596120
Correct. That's why you've been shitting and pissing yourself for the past 48 hours.
>I can smell your axewound
nah that's just you

Anonymous No. 16596125

>>16596110
Ukraine is done. And no more security assurances for you leech nigger :^)

Anonymous No. 16596126

>>16596123
Its over for your kind. Trump won this election.

Anonymous No. 16596129

>>16596123
Sounds like you need your diaper changed

Anonymous No. 16596131

>>16596122
>says the guy who considers some adhd sperg to be a priest that talks for the God
it's almost cute how retarded you are.
>>16596126
>It's over for straight white american males
sure seems like it, with how many jeet trannies like you we're importing.

Anonymous No. 16596132

>>16596131
God is those that make impossible become possible. You trannies will never be woman, even if you castrate yourself.

Anonymous No. 16596135

>>16596129
>more projection
again, this isn't your blog, sperg.
>>16596132
>ESL having a melty
kek, I would be lying if I said I was surprised.

Anonymous No. 16596136

>>16596135
>euro tranny melty about Musk 24/7 in a Musk thread

Anonymous No. 16596137

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1893239077266211305?t=cEiuGpk0T7kwJkfDTeim-w&s=19
Cool video posted from God-Emperor Elon Musk on X

Anonymous No. 16596138

So if you’re Elon how do you respond to these rogue, out-of-line astronauts without sounding mad?

Anonymous No. 16596139

>>16596135
>still crying
what's the spergout for?

Anonymous No. 16596141

>>16596137
Its fake CGI.

Anonymous No. 16596142

>>16596113
>click on random spot
>berger saying ISS is aging infrastructure, some of the modules have been up there since 1988

so what is the problem of getting rid of that piece of shit? is this purely because Musk said it or what?
Musk is right, fuck the ISS

Anonymous No. 16596143

>>16596136
>ESL schizo makes up more fantasies
you're only digging your hole deeper, tranny sperg.
>>16596137
yawn, wake me up when it's starship doing that

Anonymous No. 16596144

>>16596138
i call them retards when they say something correct and ignore them when they say something actually retarded

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Anonymous No. 16596145

>>16596137
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1820562095613898976

Anonymous No. 16596146

>>16596142
Its just the tranny commie party malding because they have EDS. Everyone has suggested ISS should be deorbited. Even the last admin agreed and marked it for deorbit. Now Musk is just saying speed it up by few years, they're melting down.

Anonymous No. 16596147

>>16596138
Retards are retards. Whats there to fix? This dance is a two way street. Astronauts are nobodies.

Anonymous No. 16596150

NASA and its uncritical supporters have basically become a cargo cult of the Apollo era, when groundbreaking stuff got done fast and with urgency
SpaceX has taken that mantle a while ago, for a (long) time spaceflight was basically dead

fuck NASA

Anonymous No. 16596151

>>16596139
I can't know the reason for your mental illness. If I had to guess, fragile ego. That seems to be typical for most spergs on this site.
>>16596142
only a small ignorant minority on social media has ever suggested keeping it. And believe it or not, when you give a lot of people the freedom of speech, you will hear some retarded words. Like >>16596150 for example.

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Anonymous No. 16596152

>>16596138
"Hey Andreas, Scott, Terry—appreciate your passion for the mission. I get it, you’ve all been up there, you know the grind. Let’s clear the air: my point wasn’t about you or the astronauts’ commitment—it’s about timing and decisions. SpaceX offered to bring Butch and Suni back months ago; we had the capability. The delay to March with Crew-9 wasn’t our call—it came from higher up, and I believe politics played a role in pushing it past the inauguration. Not saying they’re ‘stranded’ in some dramatic sense—they’re pros, doing great work. But could we have moved faster? Yes. Data backs that: Dragon’s been reliable, we’ve done multiple returns, and the hardware was ready. I’m not here to fight astronauts—I respect the hell out of what you do. Just want the system to work as efficiently as the rockets we build."

Anonymous No. 16596153

>>16596151
Freedom of speech is fundamental to human existence. They are not granted by governments or corporations. They are basic human facts. If your government restricts you, they are against human rights.

Anonymous No. 16596154

>>16596141
>>16596143
Nope it's real

Anonymous No. 16596156

>>16596099
>/sfg/ is having a meltdown
I've seen meltdowns. This is not a meltdown. I suggest you take your medication, you delusional fag.

Anonymous No. 16596157

>>16596152
thats fucking gay and basically boilerplate bullshit
why can't people just speak straight?

Anonymous No. 16596159

>>16596151
It's nice to see you are self aware enough to know your ego is so fragile

Anonymous No. 16596160

>>16596152
damn, imagine if Elon had the social skills to respond in such a way. I feel like we'd skip a lot of the hassle.
>The delay to March with Crew-9 wasn’t our call
that's not right though. It was delayed because the crew dragon had technical issues and couldn't be launched. We already had a discussion on this last thread before everyone went full sperg mode
>>16596156
you haven't seen shit then. Or you're pretending to be retarded.

Anonymous No. 16596161

>>16596142
Who has a problem with it?

Anonymous No. 16596163

>>16596159
I know it's a lot to expect basic English language literacy from an ESL but c'mon man. Try harder next time.

Anonymous No. 16596164

>>16596160
elon said the exact same thing but more concisely

Anonymous No. 16596165

>>16596163
English isn't your first language? I barely noticed, but you should still see a psychiatrist

Anonymous No. 16596166

>>16596161
normies

Anonymous No. 16596168

Elon should have the FBI arrest these uppity fucks

Anonymous No. 16596169

Remember when these SpaceX/Musk trolls were doing it ironic just a few years ago? Now they have become the EDS incarnate themselves by castrating themselves

Anonymous No. 16596170

>>16596164
you're the aspergers faggot I called out before, aren't you?
>>16596165
>pretending to be this retarded
cute. I appreciate the effort, sperg.

Anonymous No. 16596173

>>16596170
oh sperg is short for aspbergers, I see

Anonymous No. 16596176

>>16596168
For real

Anonymous No. 16596177

>>16596166
>he thinks brainrotted faggots on twitter and reddit are normal
>>16596169
we get it bro, you don't have a dick. That doesn't make you a woman though.

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Anonymous No. 16596178

>>16596169
They are beyond saving, but we still believe in ol' Musky

Anonymous No. 16596179

>>16596178
>reddit
Go back

Anonymous No. 16596180

>>16596179
Arent you the EDS retard? Reddit is your home now

Anonymous No. 16596181

I am become meme

Anonymous No. 16596182

>>16596179
Ironic, you should go back. You will NEVER be a woman.

Anonymous No. 16596184

>>16596181
Can we pretend like that never happened

Anonymous No. 16596186

>>16596180
nope, you got me mixed up with the voices in your head.
>>16596182
hey man, I'm not the one browsing reddit here.
>You will NEVER be a woman.
Correct. And (you) will never be a man.

Anonymous No. 16596189

I don't understand anymore who is tranny, who is EDS and who is reddit

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Anonymous No. 16596190

>he's still going
the schizo hath returned

Anonymous No. 16596192

>>16596184
Legalize comedy!

Anonymous No. 16596193

>>16596189
I am all 3
t. Mark Kelly

Anonymous No. 16596194

>>16596189
>tranny
the guy talking about castration every other post
>EDS
false-flagging niggers and reddit tourists
>reddit
everyone shitting up the general for the past two days

Anonymous No. 16596195

>>16596189
See >>16596186 reddit EDS tranny

Anonymous No. 16596196

>>16596194
Don't ever reply to me again faggot

Anonymous No. 16596198

It's probably a Chinese guy

Anonymous No. 16596199

>Elon bad mkay
>he was just lucky
>he never did anything
>muh diamonds mines
>he don't know what software stack is
>COBOL epoch time amirite heh

Anonymous No. 16596200

>>16596189
Just use one word. Leftist. This word encompasses all 3

Anonymous No. 16596202

>>16596199
They have invented an entire alternative fanfictionverse about how Musk/SpaceX/Tesla/Starlink being fake/fraud/bad. Its that bad.

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Anonymous No. 16596203

>>16596195
>>16596196
>t. the guy talking about castration every other post

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Anonymous No. 16596205

>>16596203
Hey stop impersonating me

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Anonymous No. 16596206

>>16596205
and who the fuck are you? This is a spaceflight general. Or was, at the very least.

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Anonymous No. 16596207

>>16596202
Yes but the Howard Hughes arc is making me nervous

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Anonymous No. 16596208

>>16596206
I'm the tranime spammer. I'm a pedo

Anonymous No. 16596209

>>16596207
Look to reason. Ground your truth to common sense and evidence.

Anonymous No. 16596210

>>16596202
doubling down on brain rot does that. they have no agency
https://youtu.be/3x5Qor0YWDU

Anonymous No. 16596214

https://x.com/RealDonKeith/status/1892940869898031299

Anonymous No. 16596215

>>16596214
this is me

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Anonymous No. 16596216

This must be the first time in my life I wish for jannies to do their jobs. Like 75% of the posts ITT are shitflinging and impotent namecalling, the rest are only tangentially related to space because they mention Elon. I really hope these retards go back to twitter, /pol/ or whatever hellhole they crawled out of before next flight

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16596218

>>16596216
Shut up cock suck nigger no one cares

Anonymous No. 16596219

>>16596216
all of it is on topic, its just uninteresting to read 600 posts arguing about astronaut being stranded and if Elon actually did or did not talk about getting them back and if the denial was political or if it even happened

Anonymous No. 16596221

>>16596214
that show is good at times
https://youtu.be/wFgkBmQeWcU

Anonymous No. 16596222

>>16596219
Read the last 200 posts and say that again with no sarcasm.

Anonymous No. 16596224

I think Mutt's Law need an update

Anonymous No. 16596248

https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/1893265913178132950/photo/1

7 v 8 hazard zone updated

Anonymous No. 16596254

>>16596248
but /sfg/ told me the planned RUD went all according to plan and inside the designated area???

Anonymous No. 16596258

/sfg/ should be renamed to /pol/ by the looks of this thread.

Anonymous No. 16596260

>>16596258
Reddit wants you back.

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Anonymous No. 16596261

>/pol/ - Polar Orbit Launches
yeah why not

Anonymous No. 16596262

>>16594942
What are your most recent ideas for spaceflight anons?

Anonymous No. 16596263

>>16596254
the AFTS did go according to plan and activated as soon as it left the expected corridor, but that plan (which was given the green light by the FAA) clearly did not include modeling the kind of failure seen on flight 7. It would be significantly more concerning if the hazard zone wasn't updated to include new information

Anonymous No. 16596266

>>16596209
Yeah an objective view on the situation says he's geeking on ket and busy fixing earth first.

Anonymous No. 16596267

>>16596254
designated shitting island

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Anonymous No. 16596269

>>16596248

Anonymous No. 16596270

>>16596266
Incomplete thought and incomplete reasoning is worse than no reasoning.

Anonymous No. 16596271

>>16596262
a new schizo drive using vacuum decay. No, I won't elaborate. See you in Andromeda.

Anonymous No. 16596276

>>16596270
You can't justify drug addiction as part of some master plan.

Anonymous No. 16596279

>>16596276
umm achtually I just did
update ur world model pleb

Anonymous No. 16596280

>>16596276
Fanfiction comes from half truths and delusion

Anonymous No. 16596283

Does this faggot think he's the fucking riddler or what

Anonymous No. 16596285

>>16596283
kek

Anonymous No. 16596287

>>16596206
don't do that to clear!

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Anonymous No. 16596288

>>16596283
rifles are good

Anonymous No. 16596295

SpaceX is going to have a reusable booster and second stage before they have a reusable (not refurbished) launchpad
kek

Anonymous No. 16596299

>nsf thinks dumping the ISS in 2027 is just some random date
>they think thats when elon thinks human-rated starship will be ready
how likely is this?

Anonymous No. 16596302

>>16596299
100%

Anonymous No. 16596303

If Elon Musk something is going to happen, its going to happen 100% of the time on-time everytime

Anonymous No. 16596304

>>16596299
>50% it happens
>50% it doesn't
>50%+50% = 100%
like the other anon said

Anonymous No. 16596308

>>16596299
Starship can't even make it to orbit without exploding.

Anonymous No. 16596309

>>16596303
wanna buy a bridge in NYC? Elon said it's a very good investment!

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Anonymous No. 16596313

>>>/wsg/5818638
Ok now this is big chungus 3000! I am become meme xDDD I ROFL'D ALL OVER THE FLOOR WHEN ELON SAID THIS! He truly is the meme lord of our generation. Reply to this post with an Xd if you are elon's faithful meme warrior!

Anonymous No. 16596315

>>16595449
gagarin
cute smile

Anonymous No. 16596316

>>16596313
this but unironically

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Anonymous No. 16596319

>>16596316
You need to reply xD or elon won't make you his discord kitten!

Anonymous No. 16596320

>>16596313
This man has 20 kids and he still acts like a memespouting teenager for validation from internet strangers

Anonymous No. 16596321

>>16596320
based

Anonymous No. 16596322

>>16596319
XD hahahah can I suck him off now?

Anonymous No. 16596324

>>16596313
>I-
>I am become meme.
no one laughs
>Yeah. Pretty much.
>I'm just I was living the meme um its like there's living the dream and there's living the meme and that's pretty much what's happening you know.
>Heh

Anonymous No. 16596328

>>16595314
I'm going to start calling it Gigadragon

Anonymous No. 16596329

>>16596324
how DARE you insult Mr. Musk??!?!?
you're going to the no-mars list

Anonymous No. 16596331

>>16596324
Lmao
Probably stressed about grimes spamming him about turning on of their kids into a tranny

Anonymous No. 16596332

>>16596320
This is what happens when an autist is smart enough to know they're seen as a weirdo by everyone else.

Anonymous No. 16596335

>>16596332
dude, elon is fucking high off his nuts there. Why do you think he's wearing sunglasses? He's completely fried and can't comprehend reality any more.

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Anonymous No. 16596337

https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1893235942044979468
>It seems like SpaceX has quietly updated the website page for the Starlink 11-4 mission explaining the cause of the failure to deorbit this second stage.
>It appears the issue was once again another liquid oxygen leak on the second stage.

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Anonymous No. 16596338

Hey /sfg/. Currently enjoying the view of Kraken Mare from the shoreline. How is it back on Earth?

Anonymous No. 16596340

>>16596338
>titanfag
oh no, bring the spergs and trannies back please

Anonymous No. 16596341

Still no official page on the website for Flight 8? Seems like it's a bit late at this point. The other ones were up at least 1-2 weeks in advance.

Anonymous No. 16596343

>>16596341
the previous few flights didn't have mishap investigations to close out

Anonymous No. 16596345

>>16596341
>https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-7
here you go

Anonymous No. 16596347

>chairman of the joint chiefs has been fired by trump
space force about to take over??

Anonymous No. 16596354

>>16596341
They haven't even rolled out the booster. But the money in Polymarket says it's likely to happen, so I believe it will happen.

Anonymous No. 16596355

>>16596343
The launch is in 4 days, retard.

Anonymous No. 16596357

>>16596355
yeah and the mishap investigation isn't closed out. For flights 2-4 they weren't completed until a day or two before the flight itself

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Anonymous No. 16596362

>>16596355

Anonymous No. 16596363

>>16596362
It's true. Cope and seethe tranny.
t. Elon's personal cumdump

Anonymous No. 16596364

>>16596341
26/27/28th

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Anonymous No. 16596367

>>16596347
nvm its going to an air force guy, however he was an adviser for voyager space. voyager are the people behind the starlab space station proposal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/02/22/dan-caine-trump-who-is/

Anonymous No. 16596370

>>16596355
The booster is not even on a pad yet

Anonymous No. 16596372

>>16596370
Thats a 1 hour operation

Anonymous No. 16596374

>>16596354
>>16596370
Cope. 26th.

Anonymous No. 16596375

>>16596337
How long until Dragon shits the bed?

Anonymous No. 16596378

>>16596375
2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16596384

>>16594942
OH MA GOSH THE STOCK MARKET IS OPENING SOON!! I AM SO SCARED THAT MY SPACEX STOCKS WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE OF FELON MUSK

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Anonymous No. 16596390

>>16596384
It's MEME LORD

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Anonymous No. 16596393

https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1893288631781224749
>The liftoff of yet another of the Chinese beyond-LEO launches workhorse - it seems another 2 are planned in March

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Anonymous No. 16596397

https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1893288386405798142
>And it turns out to be another of China SatCom's civilian GEO comsat, ChinaSat 10R - replacement of ChinaSat 10, launched June 2011 on one of the earliest "mundane" Chinese satellite launches that I followed on - launching on this LM-3B successfully at 12:11 UTC
>While its domestic replacements are now coming online one-by-one, its cheapness ensures the Long March 3 series will live on for at least quite a while

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Anonymous No. 16596398

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16596422

rococo spaceflight

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16596425

>>16596422
forgot pic

Anonymous No. 16596432

>i will be 31 when dragonfly lands
I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do with myself until then?

Anonymous No. 16596435

>>16596335
>Why do you think he's wearing sunglasses?
He flies close to the sun.

Anonymous No. 16596441

>>16594972
Elon Musk is an autistic child

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Anonymous No. 16596444

that explains why they're building another dragon

Anonymous No. 16596445

>>16595058
Prove it isn't fake. You can't.

Anonymous No. 16596446

>>16595103
Europe does fuck all in space. Useless bureaucrats.

Anonymous No. 16596447

>>16595231
Now, now, such comments will land you in prison in the EU.

Anonymous No. 16596448

>>16596447
it will land you in prison in the US as well. Freedom is a joke in the 21st century

Anonymous No. 16596450

>>16596432
Fuck you, stupid zoomer.
I will be 85 when dragonfly lands, and I hate your generation so goddamn much.
Self-entitles turds, all of you. You have never worked hard, and never will

Anonymous No. 16596454

>ted cruz is reportedly furious with elon about wanting to bring down the iss early
>ted cruz is senator of texas and chairman of congress's science committee
elon about to get bitch slapped hard

Anonymous No. 16596455

>>16596450
>76 years old
Show wrinkled skin or you are a zoomer.

Anonymous No. 16596456

>>16596450
>You have never worked hard
Neither have you, gramps. You have contributed absolutely nothing to spaceflight and never will. Go buy a coffin already, geriatric fuck.

Anonymous No. 16596457

>>16596444
Well they're doing crew missions that Starliner was supposed to do, so twice the missions than they signed up for... Yeah they might need another capsule.

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Anonymous No. 16596459

>>16596457
spess is hard plz understando

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Anonymous No. 16596460

Manned Venus flyby

Anonymous No. 16596462

>>16596454
Cruz has been a huge proponent of this annoying bipartisan idea to keep the ISS on life support for eternity. I think he wants to keep jobs at JSC or something.
Hell, one of the main political reasons for Gateway is to keep those mission control jobs in Houston

Anonymous No. 16596464

>>16596450
Lower your tone with me earther. You're speaking to a future Martian.

Anonymous No. 16596466

>>16596462
I'm hoping DOGE helps bring about the realization that you can maintain a thousand jobs for less than ten billion a year

Anonymous No. 16596489

>>16596454
just create some space force base in Texas or persuade him that multiple private space stations will bring more jobs into texas

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Anonymous No. 16596491

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekt8SSg51Nw
>These Chinese Startups Are Building Their Own Starship

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Anonymous No. 16596495

>>16596491
both mush and the chinks are btfo'd by african superior craft manship

Anonymous No. 16596521

>>16596096
The flag tells all and I don't need to bother reading.