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🧵 What is science?

Anonymous No. 16631807

No, really. What is it?

Anonymous No. 16631812

>>16631807
Science is an arms race to gain total control of the entire universe. It's obvious yet all scientists deny this while simultaneously writing that they are paid to develop interventions through knowledge of the relationship between X and Y.

Anonymous No. 16631813

google.com

Anonymous No. 16631815

>>16631812
who are we racing against? those little green fellows in alpha centauri?>>16631813

Anonymous No. 16631849

>>16631807
>grug see thing do
>grug ask how thing do
>grug think reason for thing do
>grug make thing do for many times so grug know for sure reason good

Anonymous No. 16631851

>>16631807
an evidence-based method of understanding

Anonymous No. 16631852

>>16631851
no that's philosophy

Anonymous No. 16631854

>>16631852
>i think, therefore it is
Philosophy has lead not to truth but mostly to retards justifying their retarded belief without any evidence or ever actually looking at the world.

Anonymous No. 16631885

>>16631807
>What is science?
>No, really. What is it?
See:
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Anonymous No. 16631891

>>16631854
>If anon is a pepe and all pepe are green then anon is green.
>Nooooo you can't say that without looking at the world!

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Anonymous No. 16631896

>>16631891
>If all swans are white and this is a swan it is white
I'm glad you recognize that all philosophy is the black swan fallacy.
The last "discovery" made by philosophy is how that shit doesn't tell you anything unless you do brutish legwork to actually inform you.

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Anonymous No. 16631899

>>16631896
Show me the peer-reviewed studies that prove that the laws of physics will be the same tomorrow as they are today. I'll wait.

Anonymous No. 16631900

>>16631899
I just performed a drop test of an object and it fell down, as it has done in the past since forever. Please provide a philosophical counterexample

Anonymous No. 16631902

>>16631896
you forgot the perfect argument:
I define swans to be white so that's not a swan
just define anything you like as existing, and instantly the thing comes into being

Anonymous No. 16631903

>>16631900
How dare you use logic and reason specifically induction rather than science? You're basically extending experimental evidence by philosophizing about it. That being said: Last Thursdayism is a philosophical counterexample.

Anonymous No. 16631905

>>16631903
In the timeline I'm from Thursdays don't exist. What do you think science is if not inductive and detuctive reasoning? Are you retarded?
>we see objects fall, it seems they fall in a way predictable by this formula
>if that formula is right, then a heavy and light object should fall at the same speed
>after dropping a bowling ball and a baseball off of a tower, I see they hit the ground at the same time

Same thing with the black swans, science accounts for them easily by being able to just say "no that was wrong, time to find a way to explain both black and white swans"

Anonymous No. 16631906

>>16631902
That's why you publicly define your terms before you do the research otherwise you're committing fraud. Again: this is logic and reason about the scientific method which is philosophy.

Anonymous No. 16631908

>>16631906
>all thinking is philosophy
I had some really amusing philosophy earlier watching a monkey throw shit in a zoo exhibit. I bet he was doing some interesting philosophizing as well in there.

Anonymous No. 16631912

>>16631905
>>16631908
You're taking for granted that you apply a particular logic to your observations and that everyone agrees on that logic. It is not the observation itself that determines whether your hypothesis is true or false but the rules you and your peers agree on. Philosophy and mathematics examine those rules and the scientific method applies those rules.

Anonymous No. 16631915

>>16631912
Logic was made to conform to reality in the same way science is. Suppose tomorrow, somehow, A => ~A
Ask yourself, would we still use the same "laws" of logic? No, obviously we'd drop the law of non-contradiction because, as weird to think about as it is, it contradicts now with reality as it stands.

Anonymous No. 16631932

>>16631915
Since logic is instrumental and inherent to our experience of the world, in your case for making accurate and reliable predictions, at least a part of logic exists before we deduce logic from experience.

Anonymous No. 16631935

>>16631932
Humans and animals generally are made to seek patterns because patterns make easy reliable responses.
If reality being some way is "logic" and all thinking is "philosophy" then you are retarded.
Logic is something we do to try and apply reason to reality, and if reality was different we'd have different rules of logic.

The fact you failed to grasp even the simplest hypothetical surrounding stuff being slightly different leads me to believe you are a lost cause. Stick to philosophy >>>/lit/

Anonymous No. 16631941

>>16631935
>Humans and animals generally are made to seek patterns because patterns make easy reliable responses.
So your logic is subservient to survival and reproduction in the survival game created by your brain that you call reality. Is it not possible that reality outside your perception and cognition follows another kind of logic?
>If reality being some way is "logic"
You're retarded for not realizing that your experience prior to any thought is already binary, comparative and measurable. Your logical thoughts reflect the way your brain has constructed your experience.
>hypothetical surrounding stuff being slightly different
What is geometry?

Anonymous No. 16631942

>>16631899
>>16631891
Why are philosophers always seething because of the success of science? Is it because their own "discipline" is totally worthless and has produced nothing interesting in its entire history?

Anonymous No. 16631945

>>16631941
>what is science
>what is geometry
>let me tell you why I'm right about it though, even though I don't know what it is
Very cool posts, my mentally retarded friend.

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Anonymous No. 16631947

>>16631807
It’s how we know facts.

Anonymous No. 16631969

>>16631807
Pattern recognition pretending to be something more.
>>16631900
>since forever
Sure, if modern science, or human history, is "forever".
>>16631942
You seeth like a biblefag when people call out their beliefs. Far as I see it philosofags doing a public service.

Anonymous No. 16631970

>>16631969
>Sure, if modern science, or human history, is "forever".
You have evidence that the nature of gravity has changed?

Anonymous No. 16631982

>>16631970
>muh gravity
>95% of the observable universe is unexplainable by current known theories of gravity
Let me put this in terms you indoctrinated human calculators can understand. Instead of 95% been unexplained, even if 100% is explained, the point still stands.
Observing what something has done for a limited amount time do not equate to understanding what it can or cannot ultimately do. To claim otherwise is religious in nature.

Anonymous No. 16631984

>>16631982
So... no? Cool.

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Anonymous No. 16631990

>>16631984
>So... no? Cool.

Anonymous No. 16632001

>>16631990
>erm, I don't need evidence to prove my point, just accept it or your a christcuck
Mudslime shit

Anonymous No. 16632003

>>16631807
The systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.

Anonymous No. 16632004

>>16632003
and yet the observation that vaccines cause autism is ignored because of the science

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Anonymous No. 16632013

>>16632001
>Mudslime
Good try /sci/fag, but not everyone is an indoctrinated cultist like you. Do project more.

Anonymous No. 16632014

>>16632013
>n-no...

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Anonymous No. 16632015

>>16632014
No.

Anonymous No. 16632016

>>16632015
In only a few more replies you'll be sure to convince us that gravity went in reverse 100,000 years ago and tha Mohammad split the moon in half, I believe in you!

Anonymous No. 16632018

>>16631807
An autistic enterprise whereby we try to make a coherent picture of the universe by a billion little isolated niches making a repeated series of chaotic marginal improvements is a disorganized fashion. The best part is that all of these niches often are unbelievably autistic and rigorous about their own concerns, while putting extreme effort into using as many simplifying assumptions as possible from other adjacent niches.

We hope that by chasing being the least wrong we can manage that one day we'll collectively drunkenly stumble into being right.

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Anonymous No. 16632020

>>16632016
>you'll be sure to convince
Nobody is dumb enough to attempt to convince cultists. They are only good for poking fun at.

Anonymous No. 16632022

>>16632020
Don't worry dude, the lying CIA media NASA government glow-in-the-dark spy shills are hiding the reverse gravity fields from 1823 and you'll show the world in no time!

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Anonymous No. 16632029

>>16632022
>H-he's not a mudslime, we must try another angle of attack! He must religiously believe in something like us!
Miss, but keep trying.

Anonymous No. 16632030

>>16632029
Don't worry about that science guy, obvious all science is a cult. Antigravitics represent!

Anonymous No. 16632032

you niggers can't into philosophy of science
read Kuhn

Anonymous No. 16632034

>>16632032
i love going nose deep in Kuhnt

Anonymous No. 16632038

>>16632018
Don't worry, I'm an autist, I'm ready for studying science

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Anonymous No. 16632039

>>16632030
>u antigrav u antigrav!
I don't know if antigrav is possible. But what I do know is if it were possible it aren't going to be you pencil pushing braindead cultists making that breakthrough.
Time for you to go back and churn out more questionable papers. Next month's rent aren't going to pay itself.

Anonymous No. 16632042

>>16632039
Don't worry dude, everyone accepts you on faith! We're all here for your major lore drops!
When you said earlier that gravity is fake, I felt that ressonate with my higher plane chakra frequencies, this antigrav shit is gonna be the bomb! Maybe we could make it into a bomb? More lore please!

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Anonymous No. 16632047

>>16632042
>>16632030
>h-he must be a new ager, new ager!
It was fun poking at you /sci/fag, hope you had as much fun as I did.

Anonymous No. 16632049

>>16632047
My posts are only the highest quality and I really cared about the ongoing discussion, I'm sure you could tell.
Good luck with the antigravity shit, dude!