Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 06:06:12 UTC No. 131264

Previous thread:

>>126728

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 06:30:01 UTC No. 131273

First for WTK yusho and hamster implosion January

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 06:37:55 UTC No. 131274

Kotonowaka yusho this basho. Father’s plan for is just starting.

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 07:19:49 UTC No. 131281

This time for real guys

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 09:23:27 UTC No. 131289

>Basho starts this week
>After that Hakuhos danpatsu-shiki
All is good

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 13:26:18 UTC No. 131297

takakeisho yusho for yokuzuna promotion, it's the year of the hamster

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:42:59 UTC No. 131302

>>131297
>Future Kotozakur-ACK

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:43:19 UTC No. 131303

>>131297
If Takakeisho gets a 14-1 Y or better I will eat a pound of spinach and post proof

I hate Takakeisho btw

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 16:03:48 UTC No. 131316

>>131159
He's right. Choking aside, Takayasu's sumo is fundamentally the best there is in makuuchi at the moment. The other rikishi who are either performing well or are promising - Hoshoryu, the brothers Waka, and Kotonowaka - aren't as consistent. Of those, pnly Wakamotoharu looks as controlled as Takayasu when he's winning.
>>131281
I will not believe, because belief is what kills him.

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 20:30:22 UTC No. 131344

I think this time around I'm gonna ride the banzuke chaos train, so say it with me:
KIRIBAYAMA
YUSHO

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 20:46:19 UTC No. 131346

>>131344
I don't see it happening, at least not yet.
Kiribayama WILL yusho.

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 22:52:49 UTC No. 131359

>>131303
>I will eat a pound of spinach and post proof
how is that punishing yourself?

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 01:55:32 UTC No. 131375

>>131359
I weigh 113 pounds so it is a lot for me
I will be about 1% spinach when that happens

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 03:19:59 UTC No. 131383

1918~19. From left to right, yokozuna Tochigiyama, M12 Datenoya and yokozuna Oonishiki pound the mochi for the special new year's meal.

The leftmost man in the apron looks like a random guy, but he is the former Kataokame: he had been a rikishi for 26 years, from ages 20-46 (1889-1915). He never made it above makushita 3. After his intai, he simply continued on as chankoban at Dewanoumibeya because Hitachiyama (Dewanoumi) was obsessed with his cooking.

Also, if my eyes serve me, I believe the acromegaly-looking dude behind Datenoya is the man who would become the famous giant sekiwake, Dewagatake, fresh off of his first career basho. He'd gone 0-2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2N-_p8wOdw

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 03:39:41 UTC No. 131385

>>131375
holy shit anon. you need to be atleast 100kg to be a western male sumo fan. you should eat that everyday at 113lbs
>its the weight
its that spinach is fine. eat something awful like 10 onions like an apple or a gallon of lemon juice

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:57:37 UTC No. 131420

>>131385
It'd be interesting to find out how many Western sumo fans outweigh at least one man on the banzuke. On the Japanese side a lot of the fans seem to be petite pensioners.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:09:42 UTC No. 131427

>>131420
I'm the same weight as Terutsuyoshi, but 182cm

I can't imagine how small I'd look next to the makuuchi guys. But then, I guess I'd have to take steroids like they do to be in the same leagues.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:50:20 UTC No. 131431

>>131383
Tochigayama has a shoulder muscles on top of his shoulder muscles

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:57:58 UTC No. 131432

>>131385
65kg skinny ass white twig sumo fan checking in, everyone else post their weights in kg. We need to poll this. What is the average weight of /sumo/? Are we as a general thread underweight or overweight if we were put on the banzuke? I personally think more skinny people watch sumo than fat people. I've had fat people get upset when I was watching sumo in the store, because they were fat and self conscious about themselves. So they had to call sumo fat shaming and all this and that, because they were uneducated swine. In the west I think Sumo is hard to watch for fat people because they're overwhelmed with mental gymnastics and cope, that they can't watch another person use their weight positively to succeed and be admonished for it.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:58:31 UTC No. 131433

>ex-Toyonoshima out of NSK because no kabu to loan
RIP

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 15:22:05 UTC No. 131436

>>131432
69 kg 187 cm here but I only started watching 2 years ago

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 18:38:44 UTC No. 131461

>>131432
110kg 185 cm

risen from 90 kilo summer of 2021 between work stress and covid closing fuckign everything i enjoy. I know it's dumb and it never works, but i got my resolution to go back to 100kg by the start of summer, and 90kg by next year.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 19:16:30 UTC No. 131466

>>131432
83 kg 188 cm
Death to all fat Americans

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 19:22:51 UTC No. 131468

>>131432
62kg 174cm and weight pretty much stable for years, watching since covid started

why are you fucks all so tall

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 19:48:42 UTC No. 131472

>>131432
6'4 and 380. Could OHP takakeisho

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 19:51:25 UTC No. 131473

>>131432
190cm 110kg

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 20:00:47 UTC No. 131474

>>131432
160 cm 60 kg

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 21:34:35 UTC No. 131486

>>131472
Are you the guy who claimed to be able to squat 3 takakeishos a few threads ago

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 21:37:18 UTC No. 131487

>>131432
62kg 170cm, I'm apparently just this anon >131468 but more of a manlet

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 21:40:59 UTC No. 131488

>>131432
118kg 190cm here, watching sumo makes me feel like a hungry skeleton

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 22:02:29 UTC No. 131490

>>131486
Yes, and he can. He's sent videos. He benches 1.5 Terunofujis too.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 22:30:31 UTC No. 131496

>>131486
>3 takakeishos
it was ~2.5 takakeisho. hes over 180kg on sumo db now, so more like 2.25
>>131490
i don't recall posting them here, mostly fit

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 22:48:03 UTC No. 131499

>>131496
Damn dude

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 23:16:06 UTC No. 131502

>>131432
181cm and 94kg
I really just want to shed more fat to then bulk up like a motherfucker

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 23:17:01 UTC No. 131503

>>131432
194 cm
113 kg
22 years old
Played American football D-line 6 years


Could I be in sumo guys?

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 23:38:08 UTC No. 131507

>>131488
>>131472
>>131473
>>131487
>>131502
>>131503
What would /sumo/‘s stable be named?

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Jan 2023 23:49:40 UTC No. 131508

>>131507
Yotsubagawabeya (四葉川部屋)
Bakanobeya (馬鹿野部屋)
Shirohatabeya (白旗部屋)

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 00:19:30 UTC No. 131510

>>131507
Kusobeya (糞部屋)

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 03:03:36 UTC No. 131518

>>131432
92kg 172cm, I am built to become /sumo/'s reddit-approved mid-juryoshitter manlet

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 05:36:15 UTC No. 131530

Osaka Sumo, circa 1906: the rikishi wrestling under the name as "Stessel Torataro".

He took his shikona from the name of a Russian general, Anatoly Stessel. The Russo-Japanese War was in full-swing, and Stessel had recently been in the news, apparently for committing comically large blunders resulting in the losses of numerous forts to the Japanese forces, and subsequently surrendering for no reason.
The rikishi in question wrestled under this name for one basho (Natsu 1906), probably both to mock the general and for the sake of publicity, before changing his name back to Shirakawa. He went 1-7-1.
https://sumo-hositori.com/osaka/M39-5.html

I think I'm starting to more concretely grasp why Osaka was seen as the less serious organization.

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 13:22:34 UTC No. 131553

>>131530
>taking a losing record on purpose to own the ruskies
what a patriot

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 16:39:51 UTC No. 131567

Lads, what are you buying from the new JSA store?

https://sumall.sumo.or.jp/collections/all

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:06:52 UTC No. 131571

>>131567
>No Shodai merch

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:13:43 UTC No. 131573

>>131567
thinking about geting that ura watch, but they don't seem to ship those overseas

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:43:06 UTC No. 131585

>>131432
173cm 65kg and I fucking hate obese people, rikishi are cool tho at least they do some hard training.

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:27:08 UTC No. 131593

>>131571
You missed it on page 10 bro

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:28:57 UTC No. 131594

>>131593
>sekiwake
>merely a single banner
>not even featured in the calendar when even Tochinoshin and Enho are there
kwab

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:34:44 UTC No. 131595

>>131593
>Page 10
Its over

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:43:01 UTC No. 131596

>>131567

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:49:16 UTC No. 131597

>Predictions for the upcoming basho?
>yusho
>jun-yusjo
>pleasant surprise
>disappointment

yusho: Hoshoryu
jun-yusho: Kotonowaka
pleasant surprise: Oho special prize
disappointment: Midorifuji

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:53:40 UTC No. 131600

>>131597
>Yusho
Kiribayama, I'm willing this into existence
>jun
Keisho sustains rope bid, can't reach it
>surprise
10 wins for takanosho
>disappointment
Oho MKs and loses ground to Hiradoumi
And for a personal disappointment, Hokuseiho gets a yusho in upper Juryo with one arm

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:01:19 UTC No. 131603

>>131597
>Yusho
Papayasu
>jun
Takakeisho
>surprise
11 for Tochonoshin
>disappointment
Abi

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:13:48 UTC No. 131605

>>131597
>>Predictions for the upcoming basho?
>>yusho
Shodai, chaos agent
>>jun-yusjo
Takayasu
>>pleasant surprise
Oho double digit wins
>>disappointment
Takakeisho goes kyujo around day 10.

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:43:51 UTC No. 131606

>>131605
>>>yusho
>Shodai, chaos agent
I want to beleive

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Jan 2023 21:54:54 UTC No. 131610

>>131603
>Yusho
It's Kotonowaka's time to shine
>jun
Abi. He'll do well, get back in the sanyaku, then go back to putting in 8-7s
Takakeisho will tie Abi for the jun-yusho, falling short in this yokozuna bid
>surprise
Ryuuden is going to have another strong tournament, he's still too good for the rank he's at
>disappointment
Nishikifuji's hot streak will end, he'll get an MK

>bonus disappointment
Asanoyama completely underwhelms from J12w and ends up with a lackluster 9-6.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 02:25:49 UTC No. 131638

so far the average /sumo/ rikishi is 80.7kg (177lbs) and 176cm (5"8')

so we're only a year or two away from a competitive weight. not as bad as I thought honestly.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 02:26:04 UTC No. 131639

Circa 1905, it's Kataokame again.

First, the shikona: 'Kataokame' can be translated as 'kinda ugly'.
Because he never made it above makushita, Kataokame was most well-known to the public as a shokkiri guy. In the context of shokkiri events, he would make faces, dance his "octopus dance" with a broom, and loudly sing songs about his opponent that were composed of "unprintable lyrics". Further, when photos were to be taken of him he would pose in an octopus dance move - prints, postcards and stamps bearing his likeness thus became incredibly popular. There was a point where he was selling on par with the same products depicting makuuchi rikishi.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 02:35:16 UTC No. 131642

>>131639
we need to normalize being a little goofball in sumo again

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 04:36:32 UTC No. 131652

>>131610
>Abi. He'll do well,
he is fighting all the sanyaku at m3. id be suprised if he gets double digits.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 13:21:42 UTC No. 131677

>>131652
He does pretty well against these sanyaku. Only Hoshoryu and Shodai really dominate him. He either beats them regularly or it's a coin flip.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:20:03 UTC No. 131679

Day 1 and 2 matchups have been announced, available on the JSA's site.
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/

Keisho's yokozuna push starts out against Motoharu.
Abi vs Kotonowaka is a surprise opening matchup.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:30:21 UTC No. 131681

>>131677
if you look at his last sekiwake performance, he will be fighting about the same group this tournament. he isn't fighting mostly jobbers. his highest ranking double digit score was m4 with a 10-5.
he also isn't coming off a sat off tournament with extra time to recover. he will be back to being beat up like the rest of the fighters

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:36:38 UTC No. 131682

>>131681
He's only M3, though. He'll still be fighting some midcarders.
From his first two opponents, it looks like they're going to front-load his schedule to see if he's for real.

I'll take a wait-and-see approach. He seems healthy. His style is conducive to high variance, so if he gets hot, he could string together some wins.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 22:33:49 UTC No. 131735

>>131597
>yusho
Takakeisho
>jun-yusjo
Takayasu
>pleasant surprise
Wakamotoharu hanging w/ high rankers
>disappointment
Hoshoryu
Mita

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:00:51 UTC No. 131741

Moriurarara-bros, is it this year, or is it this year?

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:27:37 UTC No. 131745

>>131741
You don't have to retire until you're 65 and he's...oh, my god, he's only THIRTY-FIVE?!

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:39:31 UTC No. 131747

>>131735
>>disappointment
>Mita
What does a Mitakeumi disappointment even look like at this point? Explosive diarrhea while performing shiko in the middle of the dohyo?

He's already going to go down as having one of the most unimpressive ozeki reigns in history.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:42:05 UTC No. 131748

>>131747
>What does a Mitakeumi disappointment even look like at this point?
Descent to lower maegashira, of course.
>He's already going to go down as having one of the most unimpressive ozeki reigns in history.
And yet, his yusho count is greater than some yoko's.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:45:13 UTC No. 131749

>>131748
>And yet, his yusho count is greater than some yoko's.
Exactly. Here was a guy (I say 'was' like he's retired, he's only 30) who clearly had all the talent in the world but could never hold it together to live up to his potential.

His whole career is a disappointment.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:59:22 UTC No. 131753

>>131749
Here's yokozuna Mienoumi's first experience at ozeki. He was 28. Mitakeumi's time at ozeki was his age 29 year.
While I'm not suggesting the man could make yokozuna, it's not really fair to say that Mitakeumi's career is over - and it's insane to say his career is a disappointment. He has spent around 5 years at sumo's 3rd highest rank.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 00:13:52 UTC No. 131755

>>131753
>and it's insane to say his career is a disappointment.
I really don't think it is.*
He started Ms10TD, made makuuchi within a year, sanyaku within two years...and then capped out. This man should be a yokozuna or at the very least a Kisenosato-esque ozeki. Lots of guys are mainstays in the upper maegashira/junior sanyaku ranks ranks.

When a 200million dollar movie is expected to make a billion dollars at the box office and only makes 800million, that's still 600million profit, but you expected a billion, so you can't help but think of it as coming 200million short.

*assuming he never regains ozeki or wins another title.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 01:04:07 UTC No. 131760

Anyone watching the dohyo purification ceremony live?

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 03:37:42 UTC No. 131771

>>131760
no

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 08:28:11 UTC No. 131803

>>131681
>>131682

I had a look at his 12-3 and the only people he fought from sanyaku were Wakatakakage and Hoshoryu. he met Takakeisho in the playoff and that's it. I think he's strong but with his current attitude, he's about the same as all the other sanyaku. I think he's 'better' than the rest of the rikishi outside of Terunofuji, but he really does seem to only play the part when he has something to prove. if he doesn't want to win, he will not, but if the JSA pisses him off, he'll quite happily collect trophies, elbowing Takayasu in head if need be.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 10:27:50 UTC No. 131806

No grand sumo preview on NHK this basho?

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 11:05:42 UTC No. 131807

Takkakeisho 13-2Y Yokozuna promotion.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 11:51:59 UTC No. 131808

>>131807
Yes. The seethe will last a hundred years.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 16:42:46 UTC No. 131811

January 22, 2023. Ryōgoku Kokugikan Arena, Tokyo, Japan.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 17:53:04 UTC No. 131816

I'll say it loud and I'll say it proud. Wakamotoharu yusho. That is all.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 20:43:11 UTC No. 131828

>>131806
It was the 2022 Overlook featuring Miyagino (Hakuho). It was really interesting and surprising but very refreshing to hear anyone in the NSK talk very honestly about any of the wrestlers. Usually rikishi and stablemasters stick to their script.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 20:51:11 UTC No. 131830

>>131806
>>131828
It's not on the NHK website anymore but here's this YouTube video recording of the program.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hq6GU8zz0g0
>>131816
He's my second favorite rikishi right now. He's been so damn consistent throughout his Makuuchi career. He performs so authoritatively and always looks in control during nearly all of his bouts.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 20:53:10 UTC No. 131832

>>131830
Sorry, that link is shit, here's a better one.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=60DtwqwPGkM

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Jan 2023 23:25:55 UTC No. 131852

>>131297
>>131303
I only support takakeisho when he’s up against Terunofuji #notmyyokozuna

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Jan 2023 03:48:04 UTC No. 131865

1955, Hirohito is hyped to watch some sumo

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Jan 2023 05:54:17 UTC No. 131866

Anyone doing the /sp/ thread ?

I'd rather not be the one because i suspect i'll fuck it up

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Jan 2023 06:08:27 UTC No. 131867

>>131866
if you prefer this to the one you made
>>>/sp/128144516

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 8 Jan 2023 12:15:25 UTC No. 131884

slight update

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Jan 2023 12:16:31 UTC No. 131885

slight update

If anyone can think of a better name for hokuseiho, let me know. I was really grasping at straws.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Jan 2023 16:00:05 UTC No. 131903

>>131885
>If anyone can think of a better name for hokuseiho,
enano mental

While he may be physically huge, he's a mental midget. Every match he forgets about one of limbs.

Also, you forgot Atamifuji, el tomate autista

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Jan 2023 14:26:41 UTC No. 131981

any clubs in the UK where I can give this sport a go? looks like fun

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:53:11 UTC No. 131994

>>131981
There's one in Derby and one in Doncaster, think they're both owned by the same bloke. They're the only ones I know about.
Been meaning to check one out, since I'm pretty close to both and they do a 'first time's free' session, but they closed up shop for le birus and didn't update their website for fucking ages, so nobody had any idea what was going on there for the better part of 2 years.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Jan 2023 01:19:37 UTC No. 132014

>>131885
>señor chaplin (cerca del exito)
kek

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:26:57 UTC No. 132049

>>131420
125kg 190cm so i think i'm a bit off there

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:27:17 UTC No. 132050

>>131885
Needs Raza mas poderosa (gran barrera) in E tier

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:37:41 UTC No. 132053

aoiyama zen yusho

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:14:29 UTC No. 132101

>>132053
this is the way

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:35:09 UTC No. 132189

>>131981
The guy who runs the "World of Sumo" youtube channel runs one in Scotland

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Jan 2023 16:10:38 UTC No. 132282

>>131885
For those of us who don't speak Taco Bell

What?

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Jan 2023 17:26:42 UTC No. 132295

>>132282
lurk more

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Jan 2023 19:08:13 UTC No. 132313

>>132282
lurk moar, but also if you want to figure it out faster then consider the routes one normally takes in the digital age when they want to figure out what a taco bell speaker wrote online

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Jan 2023 08:17:26 UTC No. 132369

>>132282
it's a shitpost chart about Dragon Ball by brain-damaged people that brain-damaged people think is funny

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Jan 2023 08:47:54 UTC No. 132370

>>132369
REEEE HAVING FUN IS REDDIT FUCK OFF NORMIEEEEEEEEEEEEEES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:34:13 UTC No. 132373

>>132370
it's been 7 years and you still think 'haha le ebic spanish' is funny

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Jan 2023 10:50:19 UTC No. 132375

>>132373
Spanish is inherently funny, and you're revealing yourself as a huehueing mestizo monkey by disagreeing.

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Jan 2023 19:14:31 UTC No. 132405

>>131885
You forgot the parentheses around Ultra Instinct.
Also you need to swap Takakeisho and Mitakeumi.

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Jan 2023 20:30:38 UTC No. 132408

>>132375
One joke repeated every day for 7 years cannot be funny, it can only be crystallized autism

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Jan 2023 00:43:38 UTC No. 132422

>>132408
Where do you think you are?

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Jan 2023 00:50:43 UTC No. 132423

>>131885
Tetas Grandes Im fucking dead

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 15 Jan 2023 10:34:32 UTC No. 132441

>>132373
Thank G-d someone on this app has their head screwed on straight. Mocking POC languages is not, and has never been, funny. Wait til I tell reddit about this, heads will roll.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Jan 2023 19:53:39 UTC No. 132460

>>132441
sumoxirs...we got too cocky...

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 16 Jan 2023 18:05:22 UTC No. 132544

>>132373
Yikes, that's hella problematic. You better go back to r*ddit and tell everyone.

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Jan 2023 23:47:24 UTC No. 132578

>>132544
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF MY HECKIN SPICARINO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! YOU JUST CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Jan 2023 00:23:07 UTC No. 132583

I just wanted to let everyone know I was the first person to call Wakatakakage "WTK". Back when he was in juryo, I just started doing it and it really caught on.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Jan 2023 03:02:36 UTC No. 132595

>>132583
I personally prefer calling him cacage

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Jan 2023 22:06:05 UTC No. 132664

>>132583
for me it's waka laka

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 02:51:26 UTC No. 132770

Sumo more like homo
GOTEEM

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 13:32:55 UTC No. 132799

>>132770

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 20:47:24 UTC No. 132828

>>132770

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:25:48 UTC No. 132842

looks like takakeisho fucked his yokozuna chances this basho :(

Anonymous at Fri, 20 Jan 2023 20:26:02 UTC No. 132941

>>132842
doesn't he only need to win with no particular score? He's still in the race, it's just a tight one.

Anonymous at Fri, 20 Jan 2023 20:34:14 UTC No. 132942

>>132941
No. The only guaranteed Y promotion, statistically, is back to back yushos. The YDC already set the bar at 15-0, and everyone expected 14-1 yusho would also be good enough, and MAYBE 13-2 yusho, but if the best he can deliver now is 12-3, it's not gonna be it.

Anonymous at Fri, 20 Jan 2023 20:38:48 UTC No. 132943

>>132942
ah, right. Rough then. I feel like with his stamina(or lack of) he's pretty fucked since there'll always be a few matches where the opposing rikishi will manage to stall until he loses steam.

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Jan 2023 01:43:37 UTC No. 132981

>>132942
plus terunofuji is coming back in march, and if his surgery went well that's going to make it even tougher for takakeisho to put together a yokozuna run

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Jan 2023 04:18:37 UTC No. 132990

>>132981
>plus terunofuji is coming back in march
The last word was that he may need even more time. After trying to train, he was back in the hospital because his knees had exploded with inflammation. That was two weeks ago.

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Jan 2023 04:36:51 UTC No. 132992

>>132990
jesus, if he ends up just retiring the upper division is going to be in real bad shape

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Jan 2023 12:16:35 UTC No. 133031

>>132990
Last I heard was that he was targeting the April tour for return.

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 12:01:02 UTC No. 133148

>>131273
>First for WTK yusho and hamster implosion January
welp
all the waka brothers did pretty good but bad call on the hamster, my man

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 14:19:58 UTC No. 133160

Will Ryuden's kk train finally come to a halt next basho?

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 14:38:15 UTC No. 133162

>>133160
>Will Ryuden's kk train finally come to a halt next basho?

I think he'll still get a winning record but it will probably only be 8-7.
He's M5 and won't be bumped up too far. He'll mostly be facing the same crop of wrestlers except for few more sanyaku and a few less mid-card jobbers.

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:14:08 UTC No. 133168

With January basho over, it's time to debate what will be Miyagino oyakata's hairstyle after his danpatsu shiki on Jan 28th. I hope he gets something similar to Haruma's

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:18:15 UTC No. 133169

>>133168
Imagine if he went the full hakkaku, anon. Wouldn't that be scary?

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:21:54 UTC No. 133170

>>133168
>it's time to debate what will be Miyagino oyakata's hairstyle

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:26:07 UTC No. 133171

>>133160
I want him to get a yusho next tournament so he have one yusho from every division

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:56:44 UTC No. 133193

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 20:02:56 UTC No. 133195

>>133193
>local takanosho in great mood

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 20:10:13 UTC No. 133196

Just the thought that there's a real possibility that there will be no ozeki after the march tournament is surreal

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 20:24:29 UTC No. 133197

>>133196
There will always be because yokuzuna are permanent ozeki.

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:00:04 UTC No. 133199

>>133193
Is the woman in the white sweater with the little kid TKK's wife and son?

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:31:24 UTC No. 133203

>>133199
apparently

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:50:37 UTC No. 133207

>>133197
You know what he means, baka

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:33:04 UTC No. 133211

Yea or nah?

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:43:52 UTC No. 133213

>>133211
I think that's the most likely scenario.

Maybe, maybe, they might re-promote Tamawashi to komusubi and move Wakamotoharu up to sekiwake.

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:33:42 UTC No. 133233

>>133211
They might just keep Tobi at M1e for an even 3 komusubi 3 sekiwake. Though that's not happened in a few decades.

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 01:58:52 UTC No. 133249

>>133193
>>133203
Yep, Cacakeishō fucks his wife.

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 05:32:27 UTC No. 133265

>>133233
>keep Tobi at M1e
i though that, but its never happened once since 1969

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 06:49:53 UTC No. 133269

Tell me about Chris.
There doesn't seems to be anything wrong with him besides some cringe behavior here and there

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 07:05:04 UTC No. 133271

>>133269
He's a psycho who isn't very good at hiding it with a massively inflated ego.
He has claimed responsibility for Sumo Prime Time existing because he harassed Kyoukai members outside of a stable asking them to hire him to make English-language content - however, because they didn't hire him to do what he supposes was his idea, he also vocally hates them and shits on the channel.
He used to make unprompted posts on sumo forums telling people who had published books on sumo that their book was inaccurate trash and he'd be willing to "fix" it for them for a fee, because no English speaker is more tapped into sumo culture than he. He stalks around outside of heya frequently enough for them to ask him to stay away. Gunning has said that Chris is also close friends with an actual sumo stalker who has had legal action taken against them.
Chris claimed a decade ago that he had already by that point spent over $30,000 "trying to get closer to sumo" - it is apparently the sole reason he lives in Japan.

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 07:27:28 UTC No. 133274

>>131432
63kg 175cm watching since last year

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 08:10:58 UTC No. 133275

>>133269
Idk, he can read wrestler's minds, he's a very powerful enemy to have...

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 08:54:26 UTC No. 133278

Special prize winners:
Kiribayama (technique)
Kotoshoho (fighting spirit)

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:57:51 UTC No. 133282

>>131432
>75kg
>168 cm
It's the bulking season for me

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:58:02 UTC No. 133295

>>133193
What a chad.

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 14:13:17 UTC No. 133307

>高村正彦委員長(80)は「『レベルの高い優勝じゃないから、それはちょっと』という意見が圧倒的だったと思います」と説明した。
YDC chairman Takamura Masahiko explained, "The overwhelming sentiment among our members was that [promotion] was not quite fitting because it wasn't a high-level yusho."

>さらに来場所の綱とりの位置付け、求められるラインについては、諮問される立場であることから「そういう話は全くなかった。結果を見てからの話でしょう」と静観の姿勢を示した。
When asked about the status of his tsunatori going into next basho and if they had set a score they would like for him to achieve [in order to be promoted], Takamura took a cool-headed position: "We haven't discussed that at all. The results have to come first."

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 15:42:32 UTC No. 133318

>>133307
Koumura*
I hadn't bothered looking up his name reading

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:32:06 UTC No. 133322

>>131432
175cm
66kg

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:21:37 UTC No. 133332

>>133203
Sorta blows my mind for some reason. I'd have figured he'd wait for a while but I guess the hambaga really revs up the libido.

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:53:09 UTC No. 133334

what gives it away?

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 19:01:47 UTC No. 133336

>>133334
the face and body (things you recognize people by) although off my memory I think the nose is too wide

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 19:13:08 UTC No. 133339

>>133334
I was gonna say it's missing the giant wart/bump/mole on the top of those nasal bridge but no it's there

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Jan 2023 19:36:33 UTC No. 133341

>>133336
>>133339
gor me? the boobs

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 01:45:37 UTC No. 133372

>>133307
Shouldn't he become yokozuna with a yusho, no matter the score?
It would be very arbitrary to deny him promotion if he has an yusho because "the win was not dominant enough"

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 01:46:38 UTC No. 133374

>>133372
I'm meaning the next one, not this.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 02:03:26 UTC No. 133375

>>133372
>Shouldn't he become yokozuna with a yusho, no matter the score?
If he wins a yusho in Osaka, yes, he will have two in a row and his promotion would be undeniable.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 07:44:53 UTC No. 133399

>>133372
>>133375
Still, those are the their by-laws rather than in-writing absolute commandments. The YDC cannot make any unilateral pronouncements or decisions; they must be asked for their opinion by the Judging Committee. I think a LOT of people misinterpret the direction of this relationship - they exist to curb the authority of the NSK to promote whoever, rather than to force their favored candidates onto an unwilling NSK.

For example, the YDC couldn't promote him if he took Osaka with an 8-7 regulation, 21-way playoff win, even if they are technically obliged to do so - because they would never be asked. The Judging Committee wouldn't even imagine allowing it to be considered.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 07:48:32 UTC No. 133400

>>133399
I'd love to see Takakeisho take part in a gigantic ass playoff after taking just 1 bout a day.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 09:24:16 UTC No. 133408

>>133400
but anon, they all have gigantic asses

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 09:35:47 UTC No. 133410

>>133334
the name in the top right

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 10:35:07 UTC No. 133414

Tamanishiki beer ad.
For strength, you want Tamanishiki! For taste, you want the outstanding flavor of Asahi!!

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:23:26 UTC No. 133417

>>133399
Sure, but that's also a case of making up the most ridiculous scenario possible. We all know what the YDC's role is.

If Takakeisho wins a yusho (or anyone else does for that matter) it will be with 12 or more wins. (11 win yusho have happened only three times in the modern era, a 10 win yusho has never occurred in the modern era.)
In that event, the JSA will ask the YDC to weigh Takakeisho's merits, they will say "looks good to us." and he'll get promoted.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:28:58 UTC No. 133418

>>133414
Love this

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:49:05 UTC No. 133421

>>133417
Sure, I agree, but I was trying to address the 'undeniable'/'guaranteed' part of the statements. We're living in an era with a banzuke format that hasn't been seen in 125 years; it seems fair to point out that sometimes shit happens.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 12:23:38 UTC No. 133425

Waka bros, will the Ozeki title ever be ours?

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 12:51:46 UTC No. 133428

>>133425

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 15:23:48 UTC No. 133439

Wonder if Hakuhos danpatsu-shiki will be televised in Mongolia

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:31:52 UTC No. 133450

Evolved Hamsterzuna sumo

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:32:52 UTC No. 133451

>>133414
what do we get if we want appendicitis?

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:34:46 UTC No. 133453

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:43:01 UTC No. 133455

>>133453
Disgrace.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 18:18:02 UTC No. 133461

>>133455

The rest of the banzuke must be awfully disgraceful then, since every one has henka'd numerous times, to Keishos one single time.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 19:00:11 UTC No. 133463

>>133461
Henkakage did it even this basho.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:12:20 UTC No. 133475

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:53:20 UTC No. 133477

>>133475
Ura won, but at what cost?

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 21:01:34 UTC No. 133478

What does it smell like?

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 21:13:48 UTC No. 133479

>>133478
Victory.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 21:18:26 UTC No. 133480

>>133478
The fresh air of the steppe and horse juice.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 21:23:26 UTC No. 133481

>>133451
nothing different from what you're doing now

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 22:54:39 UTC No. 133489

Who here watches the early matches? Theres some good fights there, along with some real clown fights. Even the judges have been filmed laughing during them. I'm enjoying Ikuzachido making his way up. This mutt is doing good, and I hope will do better
>https://youtu.be/13s2I_fy2iY

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:16:13 UTC No. 133492

>>133489
i finish work at midnight, so i generally catch the end of makushita upward. I'll admit it's more of a background thing until i hear the juryo dohyohiri

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:38:30 UTC No. 133493

>>133479
So like napalm?

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:47:03 UTC No. 133494

>>133477
Considering his performance in the rest of the basho, I guess the JSA banned the use of magic powers

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 00:10:26 UTC No. 133498

Will Hakuho's ceremony be streamed anywhere?

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 03:57:11 UTC No. 133511

>>133477
FOR UNLIMITED POWER!!!

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 07:23:37 UTC No. 133519

Its offical. He is going to juryo along with Tamashoho, Tomokaze and Tokushoryu

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 07:57:51 UTC No. 133521

RIP jason's youtube channel

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:14:22 UTC No. 133523

>>133521
Why wasn't it Chris?
Could you imagine his meltdown if his channel gets taken down for some reason?

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:18:31 UTC No. 133524

>>133523
How could it be Chris? He makes his own footage, almost exclusively.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:46:09 UTC No. 133526

>>133524
I was talking more in a general sense, weirder shit happened on youtube
Imagine he gets hacked, or a bot campaign mass reports his video, stuff like that happens relatively often

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 09:13:00 UTC No. 133527

>>132981
>>132990
This is probably Takakeisho's last chance at getting promoted ever. Terunofuji not coming back in March means Keisho needs to pull off the same thing as he did last basho, beating up on the Hiramaku extremely quickly and conserve his energy for the Sanyaku. In my opinion, Keisho lucked out big time with getting such an easy senshuraku this time. He probably won't have that much luck next time so he needs to give it his 110%.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 09:14:58 UTC No. 133528

>>133193
Where is posture princess? I thought she was part of Takakeisho's fan club, I would assume she would get invited to these types of pictures. I didn't catch her on TV last basho.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 09:17:50 UTC No. 133530

>>133528
In hiding so it doesn't seem like she just leaves when the masks are removed.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 09:22:06 UTC No. 133532

>>133455
The Wakatakakage henka the next day was absolutely undeniably kino. It was my favorite moment in the post-Hakuho era.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 13:35:10 UTC No. 133542

>>133521
Hopefully someone back his shit up since he's too much of a boomer to know how.
I'm assuming since Sumo Prime Time the NHK probably googled non-Japanese sumo and saw all those channels rebroadcasting.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 13:35:52 UTC No. 133543

The famous Raiden folding-fan tegata.
Poem on the fan reads:
>"With the mark of Raiden's hand, the blows of which can be heard from 100 ri (400 km) away, one may pass through barriers."
This is playing on the origin of 'sekitori' and meaning that Raiden's reputation is so great that just being associated with him is enough to command respect.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 16:46:05 UTC No. 133572

Pictured: Two great yokozunas

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 16:49:44 UTC No. 133573

This is Tamashoho, your newest Mongolian sekitori. Say something nice about him.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:02:01 UTC No. 133577

>>133528
Da real Posture Princess

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:08:50 UTC No. 133580

>>133572
Is that kid young ochiai

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:20:59 UTC No. 133582

>>133580
Hokuseihou.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:23:59 UTC No. 133583

Bros, pewdiepie went to this basho. Doesnt get to it till 17:30
>https://youtu.be/HJABwePm8RE

>>133492
Sorry you cant watch the clown matches, bro. I meant even lower, like the first 3 divisions. You see some funny shit there, with skinny teenagers fighting guys in their 40s, and 500 pounders. And the athletic guys really get to shine down I'm the lower 3 divisions.

>>133521
Well, eventually NHK was going to catch on after recording matches for a decade now

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 19:53:47 UTC No. 133594

Any news on Tochi? Will he continue in juryo?

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:01:30 UTC No. 133595

>>133594
We don't officially know who's being demoted yet. The reason why makushita promotions to juryo get announced so early is so they can start getting paid. By the same token, Tochinoshin is likely going to wait until the rankings are announced to make his decision, as that would be an extra month of makuuchi salary.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:07:01 UTC No. 133597

>>133594
Anything other than Makushita-to-Juryo, Ozeki and Yokozuna promotions are only announced 13 days before the start of the next basho.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:28:21 UTC No. 133602

>>133519
He looks too soft for Juryo. He's covered in baby fat. And he needs a much harder tachiai. Rooting for him.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 22:15:53 UTC No. 133610

>>133594
I imagine he would continue until he drops out of juryo. Getting paid is getting paid and each basho increases his retirement payout.

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:44:07 UTC No. 133614

>>133610

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 00:43:21 UTC No. 133615

>>133614
>get to the top sumo division
>literally live for the sport for years
>destroy your body
>reduce your life expectancy by 20 years
>still have to borrow money from your family to build a house in shitty eastern europe
sad

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 00:49:43 UTC No. 133616

>>133615
Unsurprising; real estate is a massive upfront cost, and so long as he's a sekitori he has guaranteed salary+mochikyukin that he can use to guarantee payments. It'll only be an issue when he drops out of juryo and subsequently retires, but he's probably already setup his next job ahead of time.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:09:34 UTC No. 133623

>>133616
>>133614
>>133615
guess well see him floundering around in juryo till he makes enough to pay back the debt

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:20:29 UTC No. 133625

>>133521
who the fuck do I watch now... Was just finishing learning and caught up almost all of 2022

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 03:30:36 UTC No. 133633

>>133614
Does he live outside the stable and spend all his money or something? Surely he's earned enough to afford $1 mil.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 04:15:45 UTC No. 133636

>>133625
natto. jason said he'll do update videos on a new channel.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 05:45:40 UTC No. 133641

>use nhk footage
>surprised when you get nuked

EAT SHIT NHK FAGS ABEMA FOR LIFE

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 05:55:05 UTC No. 133642

>>133641
Englishcels seething hard while cheerwagon chads stay winning

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 06:02:23 UTC No. 133644

>>133633
He had a Japanese mistress and lived together in his apartment. I'm not sure he is still doing that tho

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 16:23:57 UTC No. 133675

We all know Hakuhō is the GOAT rikishi, but who is the GOAT oyakata?

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:07:28 UTC No. 133680

>>133675
>who is the GOAT oyakata?
The fifth Dewanoumi (yokozuna Hitachiyama) tends to get a lot of votes. Mentored or recruited at least 4 yokozuna and 3 ozeki, oversaw Dewanoumi winning 10 consecutive makuuchi yusho, may have been directly responsible for the popularization of chanko.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:18:28 UTC No. 133682

Happy lads

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:49:44 UTC No. 133687

>>133675
Hakuhō when Ochiai starts his utter dominance. Do we know Ochia's shikona yet?

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:59:36 UTC No. 133689

>>133687
None. Hakuho was overwhelmed by Ochiai's utter dominance and didn't have time to come up with a shikona yet.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:04:17 UTC No. 133691

>>133687
None yet. Even Hakuho was surprised by how fast Ochiai got promoted to Juryo so he didn't have time to come up with an appropriate shikona, so at least the first basho in Juryo will be with his family name.

One of the most popular suggestions bouncing around both Japanese and English language communities is 'Ōtori', as the kanji for 'ho' used in Hakuho's shikona, 鵬, can also be read as 'Ōtori', and the 27th Yokozuna, Ōtori Tanigoro, was a member of a former installment of Miyagino-beya.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:18:24 UTC No. 133693

>>133691
the 27th yokozuna spelled it 鳳 though
the first rikishi with the character 鵬 was 48th yokozuna Taihō

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:22:21 UTC No. 133695

>>133693
He did, that much is true, but this is shikona land. There's a million and one different ways to write the same damn name, and an equally large amount of ways to read any individual character.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:26:04 UTC No. 133696

>>133691
>Ōtori
That's a bit much for a juryo promotion, don't you think? I would save a name like that for ozeki or yokozuna.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:48:22 UTC No. 133699

>>133696
I'm just the messenger, not judging. I kinda like it, though. Simple, effective, and one hell of a statement of intent.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:27:12 UTC No. 133705

>>133699
Personally, I'm partial to the Hōō idea. There's always a lot less fuss and baggage with ozeki names.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:31:04 UTC No. 133706

>>133705
What if he goes full meme and pretentious with shit like Raiden?

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:42:18 UTC No. 133708

>>133706
Hak already has Raihō

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:47:50 UTC No. 133710

>>133708
Not Raiho, but full on Raiden

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:52:23 UTC No. 133711

>>133710
All of Hakuho's rikishi have 'ho' in their shikona, if using one.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:57:57 UTC No. 133712

>>133711
Ishiura still uses his family name.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:58:32 UTC No. 133713

>>133696
Shikona are supposed to be ambitious, it's very rare for them to change after they make sekitori.
>>133712
>if using one

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:58:54 UTC No. 133714

>>133712
>if using one

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:00:21 UTC No. 133715

>>133713
Harumafuji didn't adopt a shikona until he became Ozeki.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:04:24 UTC No. 133716

>>133715
Harumafuji is a rare example. Emphasis on rare. Kotonowaka said he would if he made ozeki IIRC. But they're two examples of the hundreds of sekitori over the past 20 years, so not the norm.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:15:44 UTC No. 133718

>>133713
>it's very rare for them to change after they make sekitori.
here's the yokozuna who have: Harumafuji, Takanohana, Wakanohana II, Wakanohana III, Kotonowaka, Hokutoumi, Futahaguro, Tamanoumi, Tochinoumi, Kashiwado, Asashio III

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:39:57 UTC No. 133720

>>133718
Out of the ones you listed, only Harumafuji, Tamanoumi, Hokutoumi, Takanohana, and the two Wakanohanas actually changed their shikome, the rest wrestled under their real name before adopting a shikome, which remained unchanged. So that's 7 yokozuna out of 73, or 7 out of 33 since the YDC was formed. Either way, still "very rare" just for yokozuna, let alone all sekitori ever.
There is no yokozuna Kotonowaka, there is a yokozuna Kotozakura who adopted that shikome in the lower divisions and kept it through the rest of his career. You're thinking of current komusubi Kotonowaka, whom I acknowledged as wanting to change his shikome to Kotozakura in the event he makes ozeki.

If you have any issues with what I have said so far then you either have problems comprehending English, problems comprehending Japanese terminology, problems understanding basic statistics, or problems following a conversation topic Ensure you solve any problems you may have before replying.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 20:43:15 UTC No. 133721

>>133720
holy shit calm down

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 21:16:16 UTC No. 133725

>>133705
>Hōōin Kyōma

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Jan 2023 21:45:13 UTC No. 133727

>象ヶ鼻

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 06:38:22 UTC No. 133771

>>133715
Ama was his shikona before he changed to Harumafuji when he made ozeki. It wasn't his real name or anything

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 08:08:41 UTC No. 133772

>If you have any issues with what I have said so far then you either have problems comprehending English, problems comprehending Japanese terminology, problems understanding basic statistics, or problems following a conversation topic Ensure you solve any problems you may have before replying.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 08:27:09 UTC No. 133773

What is the deal with Kinbozan? I hear lots of people saying he's going to be great. I haven't seen much of him but I saw him on day 14 against Tsurugisho and he seemed mediocre. Am I missing something?

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 08:30:23 UTC No. 133774

>>133773
He injured his right arm

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 08:32:00 UTC No. 133775

>>133774
Well, hopefully it's quick to recover. I'll reserve judgment until after next time then.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 08:33:37 UTC No. 133776

>>133773
>big
>strong
>making consistent progress up the banzuke, not really slowing down
>not japanese
If he can avoid major injury and just refine a bit more, he'd already be good for a 6-8 year run as a middle to upper maegashitter that tangos in sanyaku once or twice

You also watched a match he lost, I recall being more impressed with his early performances this last basho and just generally with him in makushita

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 09:51:53 UTC No. 133779

>>133680
Wow. 14 fucking sekitori in makuuchi.
What is "HD" btw?

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 10:20:47 UTC No. 133781

>>133779
>What is "HD" btw?
"Haridashi", which meant your shikona would be off on the side of the banzuke for symmetry reasons. It was the old way of marking someone who isn't in the top two of a rank - we just write Y2e, O3w etc now.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 10:58:10 UTC No. 133782

>>133779
Harley Davidson, bikes weren't popular back then, so having one was a really big deal

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 11:20:27 UTC No. 133783

>>133781
>>133782
Hmm, makes sense, ty.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 14:57:03 UTC No. 133789

The origins of sumo, according to the 1884 book, 'The Complete Record of Sumo'.
>It is written in 'The Intimate Life of Emperor Wu of Han' that the Emperor greatly enjoyed this entertainment, in which men donning bull masks with horns on them would face each other in contests of strength. Though different to today's sumo, this was its origin.

The drawing is a reprint from the Chinese encyclopedia 'Sancai Tuhui', published in 1609.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 19:08:04 UTC No. 133804

>>133789
I like this more than 2 dudes kicking each other for land gibs

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 19:12:20 UTC No. 133805

>>133789
>Chinese
This can’t be true Japan Nationalist bros…

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 19:12:27 UTC No. 133806

>>133804
What about one god ripping off another god's arms just because he felt like it?

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 19:31:47 UTC No. 133807

How would /sumo/‘s stable Yotsubagawabeya (四葉川部屋) name our rikishi?

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 21:37:49 UTC No. 133818

>>133807
First half of your shikona is your anime waifu's name, second half is a condensing of the stable's name

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 21:59:26 UTC No. 133820

>>133818
kagamisato...

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 22:23:43 UTC No. 133823

>>133818
>your anime waifu's name
She's the official unofficial mascot of this site. It's fitting.
>>133807
I feel like everyone should have either 閉 or 症 in the name (taken from 自閉症, Japanese for autism. I'm not including 自, because that simply means "self" and that's boring). 症 means "symptoms" or "illness," though it doesn't have any cool alternate readings to make word puns with. 閉 means "closed", and it does have several alternate readings.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 22:46:46 UTC No. 133827

>>133823
>閉症山
Toshouzan
>閉症蟇
Heishouma
> 剝閉症
Hokutoshou
>正代
Shoudai

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 23:00:28 UTC No. 133829

>>133823
don't forget the stable's gyoji, 木村邪尼之助 (Kimura Jannynosuke)

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Jan 2023 23:20:26 UTC No. 133830

>>133829
that doesn't work at all, it ought to be something more like
>拭守掃除郎 (Shikimori Soujirou)

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 05:53:41 UTC No. 133850

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 07:11:52 UTC No. 133854

>>133805
honestly it would be more devastating for the japanese psyche if it turned out somehow to be Korean

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 07:14:31 UTC No. 133855

>>133850
imagine him trying out in maezumo

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 08:58:23 UTC No. 133860

>>133827
>>正代
>Shoudai

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 09:04:35 UTC No. 133861

>Had a dream where Oho went 11 straight wins
NEXT BASHO
SANSHO CONFIRMED

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 09:19:52 UTC No. 133862

THERE HE IS
LMAO

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 09:40:19 UTC No. 133865

>>133862
Not bad at all. I dig the haircut.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 09:47:29 UTC No. 133866

>>133865
Takes some of the years off of him.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 10:24:47 UTC No. 133868

>>133862
Nice one, based

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 12:38:47 UTC No. 133873

>>133850
Without Seagals teachings, Hakuho would never have made it out of Sandame

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:35:55 UTC No. 133874

What the fuck?

Sankei Sports says that it's a suborbital fracture he suffered in the bout against Chiyosakae, and that he had surgery 2 days ago. That's why he wasn't in the hanazumou matches.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:43:23 UTC No. 133875

>>133850
At this point Seagal is fatter than Hakuho.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:45:42 UTC No. 133876

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7jTd1wzXWw&ab_channel=%E7%9B%B8%E6%92%B2%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8D%E3%83%ABSUMOCHANNEL

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:57:32 UTC No. 133877

>>133874
>punished enho

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:20:22 UTC No. 133880

>>133850
https://youtu.be/ccLyDrbjBm4?t=1382
timestamp

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:38:58 UTC No. 133881

>>133880
>Steven Seagal-sama
>"EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHH???!!"
Japanese are cute

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:50:35 UTC No. 133884

>>133880
>Yoshi Ikuzō and YOSHIKI
holy based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzRVEQDxiOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkq9J9BDmXc

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:46:19 UTC No. 133887

>>133876
>All the fangirls gushing over Enho and yelling his name whenever he appears.
lmao

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:15:42 UTC No. 133888

>>133876
Enho out there looking like the original Emperor Palpatine

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:37:31 UTC No. 133891

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZalWNIlAP-k&ab_channel=HM%27sDiary
Even Demon Kakka was present

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 18:50:38 UTC No. 133896

>>133528
She's been in hiding since she saw the doujin of her.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 19:03:49 UTC No. 133898

>>133896
>the doujin
LINK PLEASE

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:03:17 UTC No. 133910

>>133805
>>133854
By odd coincidence, I found what seems to be a knockoff version of the same book that redrew the picture and does actually label it "Korean sumo".

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:55:34 UTC No. 133923

Yet another version, this one from 1791, saying it's Takemikadzuchi-no-kami vs Minakata-no-kami.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 21:22:32 UTC No. 133931

>>133923
A relatively well known story in Japanese folklore. The amatsukami (heavenly gods) decided that the kunitsukami (terrestrial gods) weren't being orderly and productive enough and decided to impose order. One of the leaders of the amatsukami was the thunder god Takemikazuchi. The kunitsukami Takeminakata refused to follow the amatsukami without being beaten in a challenge of strength. The two gods wrestled, and Takemikazuchi crushed Takeminakata's arms to claim victory, exiling Takeminakata to Lake Suwa.

This story, along with the rest of the folklore written down in the Kojiki and Nihon Shoki, was likely invented as a metaphor for the introduction of Confucianist legalism from China and solidifying of the authority of the central court, as a way of appearing more legitimate to mainland China.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 22:41:35 UTC No. 133940

>>133931
Right, but what I'm now interested in is - why place that into the framework of the original unrelated drawing, instead of producing a new one? Doesn't that seem strange, or do I not know enough about middle-late Edo art traditions?

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:16:16 UTC No. 133943

>>133940
Because like 90% of feudal Japan culture is stuff they imported from the mainland, reinterpreted to fit Japanese culture. Comes with being an isolated archipelago that also closed itself off to the rest of the world for hundreds of years. Reworking of imported culture, including mythological stories, is absolutely not exclusive to Japan, they're just the most prominent and obvious example in current year due to how all this stuff developed around the rest of the world over the past few hundred years for various reasons.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:24:57 UTC No. 133944

>>133943
The Shoki and Kojiki were published over 1,000 years before this. It's not like Sino-Japanese cultural trade started in Edo.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:31:16 UTC No. 133946

>>133944
Yes, and? That means over a thousand years of those stories being told and retold to become common knowledge, so when someone sees a picture from the mainland that supposedly depicts the first folk wrestling match, it gets reinterpreted to fit the local understanding. It's not like the Japanese image is an exact replica of the Chinese one, but a redrawing, portraying the same events, but in a different context.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:40:23 UTC No. 133947

>>133946
>It's not like the Japanese image is an exact replica of the Chinese one, but a redrawing, portraying the same events, but in a different context.
The >>133910 redraw is also a Japanese one.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 05:55:00 UTC No. 133976

>>133862
Looking sharp! Enjoy retirement Miyagino-oyakata

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 07:25:40 UTC No. 133994

Uncle-watchers, any twitter reactions to note?

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 10:44:40 UTC No. 133997

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2sIgvWrV6M&ab_channel=HM%27sDiary
Japanese nationalist seething

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 11:25:11 UTC No. 133998

>>133931
I don't remember asking you

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 12:54:23 UTC No. 134000

>>133997
Nobody seethes less at other national anthems, the Japanese being inclined to learn and sing along with other peoples anthems, rather than booing them like the anglo scum.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 17:16:09 UTC No. 134025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH_XD-V6ccA

Inosuke failure compilation. God bless that incompetent fuck.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 18:46:15 UTC No. 134030

>>133789
History writing before 1950 is largely inaccurate.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 19:24:46 UTC No. 134032

>>134030
>implying sumo history documents can't be trusted
>implying Akashi isn't real just because he's made up
lol ok

Isley !2ySisYPHus at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 20:24:50 UTC No. 134034

>>134025
Sasuga Innosuke

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Jan 2023 22:16:13 UTC No. 134050

1922. Various scenes of the lads relaxing on jungyo.

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 03:55:35 UTC No. 134082

>>134034
>when you get a whiff and the worms come out to nip your finger

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 11:20:30 UTC No. 134120

>>133489
Haven't seen Blakuho Negrosaki before, but I do enjoy watching some of the lower matches for sure.

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 14:34:55 UTC No. 134124

What is (you)r brand of sumo?

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:12:42 UTC No. 134128

>>134124
Thrusting and failing cause I am a skinny manlet

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:37:13 UTC No. 134131

>>134025
As is tradition with Japanese culture, you can be an incompetent retard but due to seniority you command something. At least they know not to promote him all the way up.

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:40:24 UTC No. 134133

>>134124
In my ideal scenario something like Terunofuji. Just be stoic enough to not lose until the opponent fucks up/you get a strong grip.

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:09:25 UTC No. 134135

>>134124
Ippon seoi nage
Maintain proper distance and go for ippon seoi nage

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:37:33 UTC No. 134136

>>134124
dive headfirst out of the dohyo

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:46:07 UTC No. 134138

>>134124
An advanced version of Aoiyama's style, but I use my huge tits as extra limbs to slap the opponent

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:51:43 UTC No. 134140

>>134124
I'm Abi shaped but slightly shorter. So a shitter, slower, less coordinated Abi style.

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:38:22 UTC No. 134146

>>134124
Moriurara style
Every time, I close my eyes, shit my mawashi, fall down, ten leave, yet I retain a single rabid stan in the form of Chris Gould.

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:59:49 UTC No. 134148

>>134146
lmao

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:08:44 UTC No. 134149

>>134124
Launching myself on the shinpan, gyoji or the audience in order to inflict maximum damage

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 19:21:22 UTC No. 134158

>>134124
I'm the henkaman!

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 19:22:51 UTC No. 134159

>>133489

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Jan 2023 21:31:34 UTC No. 134169

Konishiki I, c. 1896

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 02:21:51 UTC No. 134203

>Definitely getting promoted
Bushozan (J1w, 9-6)
Hokuseiho (J2w, 9-6)
Kinbozan (J5e, 11-4)
Daishoho (J6w, 12-3)

>Definitely getting demoted
Ichinojo (M7e, 0-0-15)
Tochinoshin (M11w, 2-3-10)
Chiyomaru (M16w, 4-11)
(Plus one extra slot for Okinoumi's intai)

Do we think they'll give Asanoyama a promotion (J12w, 14-1) and, if so, whose spot would he take?
Oho (M8w, 4-11), Chiyoshoma (M11e, 5-10), Tsurugisho (M15e, 7-8) or Mitoryu (M15w, 7-8)?

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 02:45:47 UTC No. 134206

>>134203
In recent history, the Kyoukai has had a tendency to levy one-or-two extra punishments on rikishi who have gotten suspended or raised trouble. Denying Asanoyama any banzuke luck here is perfectly in line with punishment moves they've made in the past.

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 03:14:31 UTC No. 134208

>>134124
medium tachiai, get migi yotsu asap, yorikiri or sukuinage
quite similar to taiho

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:01:07 UTC No. 134211

>>134124
Plan A
migi-yotsu yorikiri
Plan B
Kotenage
When I’m feeling fancy
kirikaeshi

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 07:55:32 UTC No. 134226

>>134124
manlet annihilation. on everyone.

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:10:55 UTC No. 134228

>>134226
>tfw his last terutsuyoshi liftout is probably the last time we see him lift an opponent out ever

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:37:33 UTC No. 134269

>>134228
Nah him and Enho will both be in Juryo next basho so we might get to see it one last time

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 05:22:11 UTC No. 134307

1794. Daidouzan, the protagonist of sumo, surrounded by his lessers (Tanikaze, Raiden, etc)

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 09:07:56 UTC No. 134320

>>134307
luv how expressive these lads are and the range of male pattern baldness on display, really helps you imagine them at ringside in life

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 09:16:48 UTC No. 134322

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_sumo#Deaths
>Deaths
>This section is empty. You can help by adding to it.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 09:18:24 UTC No. 134323

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_sumo#Deaths
>Deaths
>This section is empty. You can help by adding to it

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 09:26:16 UTC No. 134324

in case you are wondering about da fish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWE6DICAw_I

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 14:29:56 UTC No. 134368

>>134320
>and the range of male pattern baldness on display
Usually intentionally shaved, and you can see that with a couple guys having scalp stubble. The haircut is based on the ones used by samurai, which is styled to let their heads fit into their helmets easier. Not done anymore since the samurai class was abolished.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 14:32:36 UTC No. 134369

>>134307
They mirin those puffy cheeks

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 15:15:41 UTC No. 134376

>>134307
Me at top left

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 17:48:51 UTC No. 134386

>>134307
Topmost right is just an dirty old man version of a giga Chad

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 18:26:42 UTC No. 134388

Why don't rikishi have facial hair? Is it some kind of sumo rule that they must shave, or is it all tradition/expectation that they should all shave?

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 18:29:33 UTC No. 134389

>>134388
As with most things in Japan, most of the "rules" aren't officially written down, because it's assumed that they're common knowledge. Going clean shaven is one of those expectations. It's not officially written down, because it's assumed that rikishi have the common sense to not show up in a stupid looking pedo stache or some half-grown facial pubes. And since rikishi are in the public eye in one way or another pretty much every day, they don't have time to grow a proper beard even if they wanted to.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 18:42:32 UTC No. 134393

>>134389
>It's not officially written down
Yes, it is.
https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASM2V4TZ4M2VUTQP01C.html

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 19:01:29 UTC No. 134396

>>134388
>>134389
>>134393
Very occasionally you'll see dudes with some stubble or light growth even during a basho.
I can recall having seen Terunofuji, Akua, and Hoshoryu all having visible facial hair at least once in the past year.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 19:44:55 UTC No. 134397

Who will get him, and how much seething will there be?

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:00:57 UTC No. 134398

>>134388
Wrestlers can get away with a bit of stubble, they're big, high test dudes, so a five o'clock shadow's going to happen from time to time and there are historical deptictions of rikishi with long facial hair (full beards, sidelocks, moustaches, etc.), however in modern sumo "obscene beards" are not permitted.
You can see where they're coming from with that if they you think about it. Consider how disadantageous would be to yourself if your beard touched the clay before your opponent's body did in a throw, or how unfair it would be to your opponent if his style of sumo is striking at the head and neck (Like Abi) and you deliberately grew a beard to force hairpulls.
Not worth the trouble it would cause.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:14:30 UTC No. 134399

>>134397
I don't know who that is and none of the image searchers are helping.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:19:32 UTC No. 134400

>>134399
Nakamura.
There's a number of oyakata who are pissy that Hak is trying to buy every good prospect he can get, and want him to fail to land Nakamura.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:28:45 UTC No. 134401

>>134400
>There's a number of oyakata who are pissy that Hak is trying to buy every good prospect he can get
Well, what about them stepping the fuck up and offering good conditions to said talent?

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:30:20 UTC No. 134402

>>134401
Hard to compete with money

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:39:15 UTC No. 134405

>>134402
what money? They all receive the same salaries and basho payments

You could have a point with saying everyone wants to be under the GOAT, but smart prospects should go to actual stables with records in promoting to sekitori status like Isegahama.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:51:33 UTC No. 134406

>>134405
Stable's money, obviously.
Miyagino clearly has the most wealth out of all stables at this point, who knows what is being offered to new recruits.
This can also directly correlate to quality of daily life and access to facilities. Not sure if he followed through but Naruto has stated he wants every rikishi to have an individual room, for instance. If he had the budget he would have done this right away.
Or look at Kisenosato's new stable building with the luxurious double dohyo.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 20:55:56 UTC No. 134407

>>134406
>Or look at Kisenosato's new stable building with the luxurious double dohyo.
in fucking Ibaraki prefecture in bumfuck nowhere on a highway with just a supermarket and konbini in front of it.

At lest Hakuho wanted to open his new place in Roppongi or a similar area.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 21:11:00 UTC No. 134409

>>134405
>what money?
For prospects looking to join a heya, there's usually some thousands changing hands. If you join a heya who didn't pay and you wash out, you have nothing. If you join a heya who paid $5k for you and you wash out, you have 5k to help build your life in the real world.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 21:11:28 UTC No. 134410

>>134307
>W/L ratio of 91%

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 21:30:34 UTC No. 134411

>>134397
He has a yokozuna-capable frame but I fear that he's gotten too fat too early, a mistake that most tsukedashi wrestlers make by design
Hope Miyagino gets him instead of Nishonoseki, if the latter does, then he's bound to be a perennial choke artist

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 22:06:00 UTC No. 134416

Why’d all the NHK scrapers get nuked just now they’ve been doing this shit for years. Who reported them?

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 22:22:35 UTC No. 134419

>>134368
I always thought hokotofuji looked like a samurai but he does have a little balding going on.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 22:23:07 UTC No. 134420

>>134405
Were you not paying attention to how many celebrities, power brokers, and other big-wigs were at his retirement ceremony? Hakuho's spent his yokozuna tenure trying to get as many high-end connections as possible, and that means money flowing into his stable via his sekitori's supporters clubs. It's enough that he was trying to get a new stable built in fucking Ginza, the highest-end luxury neighbourhood in all of Tokyo.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 22:25:24 UTC No. 134421

>>134416
Periodic sweeps have always happened. This is Natto's 5th or 6th channel. Kinta, on the other hand, had mostly been left alone for over a decade.
Realistically, this could be a new hire flagging everything in sight, or it could be an attempt to push people towards the paid sumo archive service. That would imply a degree of coordination between the NSK and NHK, though, and I don't think the NSK is smart enough for that. Probably things will quickly normalize again.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 22:30:44 UTC No. 134423

>>134397
Nakamura is the new kotobro

Sadogatake-chads stay winnings.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 23:20:13 UTC No. 134430

>>134421
Worst outcome is that Natto switches to ABEMA TV feed

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Feb 2023 23:34:51 UTC No. 134433

>>134421
Even if I had cable TV Japan is only SD with the provider here. So I don't want to pay for it. NHK should modernize and not just offer their channel through traditional providers. I agree though it's not about getting people to pay for services.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 02:15:10 UTC No. 134446

>>134420
>in fucking Ginza
fucking hell. not sure if good idea or not.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 05:39:53 UTC No. 134461

>>134421
I see so many comments saying the NHK and even the sumo association is at fault. It's their stuff, they can stop people from rebroadcasting it if they wish. NHK World has its own highlights (only for the top division and the most recent basho) but they do make it available. Why do people act like there is no official way to watch it?

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 06:13:16 UTC No. 134463

>>134461
>NHK World has its own highlights (only for the top division and the most recent basho) but they do make it available. Why do people act like there is no official way to watch it?
NHK World absolutely doesn't make it all available. And various other cable packages with NHK won't let you watch it, either. No one is going to pay the NSK several thousand dollars to watch the last 10 years of sumo on VHS (I'm assuming they haven't updated their release format in decades). If this takedown frenzy isn't a passing wave like the ones we've seen in the past but a new standard, I would expect to see foreign interest in sumo bottom-out to 1970s levels in only a handful of years. If NHK doesn't want that to happen, they would do well to either knock it off - or to offer real sumo-viewing packages for foreign fans. Piracy is a service problem.


>saying the NHK is at fault ... they can stop people from rebroadcasting it if they wish.
They are at fault, which has got nothing to do with whether it's right or wrong.

>NHK World has its own highlights (only for the top division and the most recent basho) but they do make it available
these are some MLB blackout-tier excuses. Show me the fucking 4-hour broadcasts that I am asking for as the consumer, and provide me an archive of past basho. That's all any foreign sumo viewer wants. Even the English commentary and subtitles are extraneous (and fucking awful)

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 06:20:16 UTC No. 134464

>>134463
Well in the US and Canada you can watch it live at least via TV Japan. Lots of other sports don't have extensive archives of past events, so having just the previous basho seems pretty normal. Having it all available would be nice, but do they even do that for Japanese audiences?

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 08:55:03 UTC No. 134474

>>134416
>Who reported them?
Chris
He wants to impress NHK for his own gain

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 13:22:47 UTC No. 134494

>>134416
>Who reported them?
Me

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 15:48:16 UTC No. 134502

>>134463
chris-sumo levels of fanfiction. no other sport does all the shit you want. stop being a whiny entitled bitch.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 16:07:40 UTC No. 134503

>>134502
It isn't wrong to want some standards, you bootlicker. Not everybody is content to subsist on shit and defend the ass it comes from, though you might be.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 17:43:39 UTC No. 134523

Anyone have that hakuho vid that starts with kisenosato matta

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 17:54:19 UTC No. 134525

>>134523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrZW8LzPLks&ab_channel=Maarike11
This one?

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 17:55:10 UTC No. 134526

>>134525
No, it had bunch of other matches in it too

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 18:38:36 UTC No. 134533

>>134503
>muh standards are de standards
wrong faggot. as above, they're meeting the standard.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 18:47:31 UTC No. 134537

>>134464
>Having it all available would be nice, but do they even do that for Japanese audiences?
Which is what makes it a service problem.
In the past, when I have watched Japanese compilation vids of bouts from the 2010s, I have seen more than a small number of Kintamayama clips - because the Japanese fans don't have access to the material otherwise, either. If the NHK isn't monetizing it and Moti isn't monetizing it, what does it matter if it's there? And now it is gone, and an important sumo resource is lost, at least for the time being.

It sure would be nice for them - whether the NSK or NHK - to provide me an opportunity to give them my money in exchange for desired services.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 19:03:41 UTC No. 134545

>>134537
Their desired service is sumo fans from abroad travelling to Japan on a regular basis, paying for tickets to watch it live, and buying lots of merchandise. Historically, getting sumo onto foreign TV screens has never been a high priority for them, presumably because they don't forecast much earnings from it. It's all very well for people to say that they would pay top dollar for it if it was available, but anonymous expressions of support is not enough to justify a major business decision. When or if sumo gets easier to access outside Japan, it will be the result of years of market research and analysis, not from just looking at Kintamayama's view count. Of course this sucks for gaijin sumo fans who will have to put more effort in to following the sport, but realistically there's no reason for anyone in Japan to cater to us unless its profitable.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 19:10:11 UTC No. 134547

>>134545
>gaijin sumo fans will have to put more effort in ... but realistically there's no reason for anyone in Japan to cater to us unless its profitable.
What does that have to do with issuing takedowns?

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 21:04:54 UTC No. 134558

>>134547
Copyright striking has been becoming more and more common on Youtube in recent years. It's not rare or unexpected that using copyrighted footage can result in your channel being nuked.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 21:05:30 UTC No. 134559

I can feel it in my bones.
Another high-ranking one is going to be punished for partying too hard

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 21:24:09 UTC No. 134561

So how long until these dumbasses realize there are video hosting sites other than YouTube? Most of them go through sumoforum or reddit anyway, so it's not like they have to worry about lower "engagement."

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 21:31:47 UTC No. 134564

>>134558
Sure. But there's no reason to stop uploading 'to respect NHK's wishes' or whatever the fuck

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 22:13:59 UTC No. 134567

>>134564
Of course not, I pirate everything I can get my hands on and always have, so I'm both familiar with and sympathetic to copyright holders and their eternal quest to crack down on this sort of thing. The only thing that's surprising about this round of takedowns is that people like Kintamayama and Natto have been getting away with it for so long, that and the unbelievable optimism in some corners of the sumo community that the crackdown means that a legitimate way to watch top division highlights is coming.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 22:35:12 UTC No. 134569

>>134561
They can still go after someone's provider if they are hosting the videos. If you get a server and host your own website they can go after the company that hosts the server or sue you personally.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Feb 2023 22:44:48 UTC No. 134570

>>134567
>sumo community that the crackdown means that a legitimate way to watch top division highlights is coming.
and they're probably wrong to think it.
people are also acting like someone in Japan cant watch the highlights either. why watch couple hours of live footage when you can just catch the youtube highlights after work. i didn't bother with the livestreams when i was living in korea since it was difficult to be available to watch it midday with other things going on in life.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 00:25:47 UTC No. 134580

>>134569
NHK is only now figuring out YouTube exists, no way in hell they're aware of any of the alternatives.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 00:27:24 UTC No. 134581

>>134580
What's the best source for archiving bouts then? The NHK World highlights?

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 02:05:31 UTC No. 134598

>>134581
Bilibili seems to have a large amount of sumo footage.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 02:17:05 UTC No. 134600

>>134598
I'll look and see what's highest quality I suppose.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 12:07:35 UTC No. 134632

So what can Kotonowaka do (at this point) to get some consistency?

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 12:12:00 UTC No. 134633

>>134561
I know for a fact that Natto is considering Rumble and Odysee.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 12:16:27 UTC No. 134635

>>134632
私の相撲

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 15:56:50 UTC No. 134642

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 18:09:08 UTC No. 134660

>>134635
jibun, not watashi

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 21:47:16 UTC No. 134688

>>134632
What’s not consistent about him? He hasn’t had a mk in a year from m6 and higher except for his Covid pull out in may. If he ever goes 5-0 it’s a guaranteed Y.
He is the most well rounded rikishi right now.
Push
Thrust
Belt wrestle
Hakuho like craftiness and tawara dancing

If he ever finds a winning mentality it’s over for sumo he’s too big and too good.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 21:58:13 UTC No. 134694

January 1919, still during the era of the East-West battle rules.

>Monoii are an ever-present part of sumo, and some say that the sport would be much lacking without them. Photographed here are the judges trying to mollify the East-ringside rikishi, oozeki Kyuushuuzan and yokozuna Oonishiki [after a decision that went against the East]. Judges from right to left are Ikadzuchi, Ounomatsu and Kumagatani; the gyouji is Shikimori Kandayu.

This one is interesting because it implies a very different dynamic between Association officials and the rikishi. That tension, of course, would boil over 13 years later, at Shunjuuen.
But just imagine Asashouryuu shouting at Kaiketsu to not fuck up the calls that could affect his yusho chances.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 22:19:27 UTC No. 134703

>>133680
Thinking of Shunjuuen made me remember - Dewanoumi was also personally responsible for recruiting Tenryuu, who organized the whole strike. The man's fingerprints are everywhere.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 22:28:44 UTC No. 134704

>>134688
he's only one year younger than keisho and has fulfilled most of his physical potential, unless he wants to grow another set of tits and become ichinojo because his father clearly isn't going to make him build muscle since we all know how fat he was
he has a good frame and can bully rnfs but he's too weak, too slow, and doesn't have strong enough technique for me to ever say he has serious yoko potential
would argue that shoho has more potential considering he's doing better at 23 than waka did, plus he's taller and not as heavy

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 22:54:55 UTC No. 134708

>>134688
>He is the most well rounded rikishi right now.
Pun intended?

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Feb 2023 23:40:07 UTC No. 134713

>>134708
Ohnoyusho keisho and chiyomaru are pretty spherical

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Feb 2023 00:22:28 UTC No. 134716

>>134694
>Shikimori Kandayu
Unbelievable that he's still working a hundred years later, Japanese tenacity is the envy of the world.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Feb 2023 07:42:08 UTC No. 134742

>>134688
>He is the most well rounded rikishi right now
Weird way to spell Kiribayama

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Feb 2023 07:49:23 UTC No. 134744

>>134742
word, his sumo is satisfying to watch
if he can get a little stronger, ozeki is inevitable

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Feb 2023 13:10:02 UTC No. 134753

>>134567
>he unbelievable optimism in some corners of the sumo community that the crackdown means that a legitimate way to watch top division highlights is coming.

Optimism is a coping strategy. It's healthier to maintain a positive attitude than accept the realization that, pretty soon, it may be extremely inconvenient/impossible to watch sumo.
>just watch it live on a stream at 2 in the morning, bro

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 01:43:44 UTC No. 134812

June 8th, 1931.

At age 39, six full years after his intai, former yokozuna Tochigiyama shocks spectators and professionals alike by defeating active oozeki Tamanishiki (soon-to-be yokozuna) and sekiwake Tenryuu to claim the championship gold in a three-day competition called "The First Annual Grand Japan Sumo Tournament".

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 02:59:25 UTC No. 134819

>>134812
he was clearly extremely gifted, being one of the strongest and most successful yokozuna ever before retiring early after a 7 year reign
what makes his career more impressive is that he was only 104kg/229lbs, in the top 3 divisions there are only 2 wrestlers who weigh less than that, enho and miyagi

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 03:13:38 UTC No. 134820

>>134819
>what makes his career more impressive is that he was only 104kg/229lbs, in the top 3 divisions there are only 2 wrestlers who weigh less than that, enho and miyagi
That's how it is now, but during his yokozuna tenure Tochigayama was roughly average for both height and weight among sekitori. He was the lightest yokozuna, but there was one ozeki and 11 sekiwake lighter than him.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 04:06:45 UTC No. 134824

>>134820
>He was the lightest yokozuna, but there was one ozeki and 11 sekiwake lighter than him.
That's incredibly exceptional, though. We're talking about one ozeki ever.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 04:12:41 UTC No. 134826

>>134824
One ozeki over his yokozuna tenure, from 1918 to 1925, not of all time. Meanwhile in the same timeframe about 2/3 of lower sanyaku were lighter than him.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 04:32:04 UTC No. 134830

>>134826
Alright, I figured out the query for the lightest weight of all ozeki + yokozuna. He's still pretty far down there. But the list explodes with 80-kg guys if you add sekiwake and komusubi.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 13:40:02 UTC No. 134847

>>134463
>>134421

Well all you idiots have been begging for them to give attention to their "international fans", and now you've got it. Hope you are all very happy with yourselves.
Of course if it wasn't for Chris badgering them, they would have remained happily ignorant of the existence of the "foreign fanbase" and youtube sumo would still only be subject to the very occasional desultory sweep.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:55:19 UTC No. 134884

>>134847
>

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 19:24:15 UTC No. 134888

>>134830
this doesn't mean much without average weights for the time.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 21:03:18 UTC No. 134899

>>134888
I'm not trying to look at average weights, I'm just trying to establish he was one of the lightest ever to achieve the highest ranks. But you can do that yourself if you add the Height & Weight column.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 21:19:32 UTC No. 134901

>>134899
>of the lightest ever to achieve the highest ranks.
which is inself meaningless. nobody is arguing against that point, but say that making sanyaku at his bodyweight was exceptional and comparing him to modern enho is stupid.
it is not exceptional to be sanyaku at 104kg when he was in the upper half in terms of bodyweight for the time. that would be like looking back 100 years from now in the era of 230cm 300kg rikishi and saying takakeisho was exceptionally light for making yokozuna at ~165kg

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Feb 2023 21:55:54 UTC No. 134907

>>134901
>and comparing him to modern enho is stupid
I wasn't doing that, that was someone else.

Also, there's a problem with the weights we use anyway, because sumodb only provides one weight because there wasn't consistent tracking during this era. The available literature says Tochigiyama didn't reach 103 kg until after his yokozuna promotion; that he was 101 kg, then deliberately put on 2 kg, and oscillated around 101-105 for the remainder of his career. This effect gets much wilder for hiramaku, who weren't weighed as often - half of the listed figures are probably off by 5+ kilos for the hiramaku in any basho of this period.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Feb 2023 02:43:14 UTC No. 134930

>Takakeisho making a variety show appearance
>What should we have him do?
>I don't know, have him eat some noodles live

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Feb 2023 02:45:08 UTC No. 134931

>>133862
It has already grown out a bit on the sides and looks nice. He's commentating the Fuji TV 1-day tournament right now.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Feb 2023 08:57:47 UTC No. 134944

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Feb 2023 15:01:06 UTC No. 134951

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NarE6yizZRM&ab_channel=SanchirboldRyuo
Footage from behind the scenes and after party of Hakuhos danpatsu-shiki

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Feb 2023 15:58:26 UTC No. 134954

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqQhl45BPh0&ab_channel=%E3%81%84%E5%8A%A9%E5%A4%AA%E9%83%8E%E3%80%90%E5%A4%A7%E7%9B%B8%E6%92%B2ch%E3%80%91-sumoch-

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 00:57:38 UTC No. 134998

>>134954
uploader is a little poser bitch but nice footage

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 01:21:06 UTC No. 135002

>>134954
what the hell is wrong with Kitanowaka wasn't he a high school yokozuna or something he looks like shit as of recent his tachiai has no power whatsoever and he seems to be completely out of it

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 08:04:11 UTC No. 135017

June, 1945. Futabayama performs his final dohyouiri in the bombed-out old Kokugikan.
He would fight his last career match this same day, beating komusubi Sagamigawa by yorikiri.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 08:58:32 UTC No. 135020

>>135017
Fun fact, the kokugikan was a valid military target. They assembled schoolchildren made incendiary balloons there, that they launched hoping to cause forest fires across North America

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 15:03:29 UTC No. 135037

>>135002
I think it started after he had a thigh injury earlier in the year. He almost completely changed his brand of sumo, very chaotic and relies much more on pulls. I used to think it was because he was trying to work around the injury but it has gone on for way too long. I hope he turns it around, Kitanofuji just cannot stop complaining about him in his columns

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 15:18:59 UTC No. 135040

https://twitter.com/nishonosekibeya/status/1622437102632992768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1622437102632992768%7Ctwgr%5Ed5158e2827769611cbff9dec3ca4b6c308aef384%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sumoforum.net%2Fforums%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fnishonosekibeya%2Fstatus%2F1622437102632992768
Future is here

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 15:21:13 UTC No. 135041

https://twitter.com/nishonosekibeya/status/1622437102632992768
Nishonoseki trying some modern tools in his coaching

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 15:28:43 UTC No. 135042

>>135041
Pretty cool. Also, the sheer size of that training hall. Mogs places like Arashio stable to death.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 16:55:00 UTC No. 135050

>>135041
One step closer to the definitive Sumo videogame, although I would happily settle for a coach/stable simulator

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 17:23:03 UTC No. 135053

>>135050
I think a stable simulator is far more likely. The problem with grappling games of any kind is there's too many small movements happening rapidly that a video game can accurately simulate them in any way that the player has control over. Even pro wrestling games are janky for this reason and they're based on performative entertainment rather than competitive sport.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 23:25:00 UTC No. 135099

>>135041
Too bad they don't have any interesting prospects.

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 01:07:00 UTC No. 135109

>>135037
>Kitanofuji just cannot stop complaining
FTFY
but we love him for it anyway

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 01:22:16 UTC No. 135111

>>135053
>Ozumo Oyakata Simular 2023
Sasuga

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 04:46:44 UTC No. 135122

>>135053
you could easily do grappling mechanics like a wwe game. no ground game makes it easier to do. 10s rounds and touchdowns would be harder to balance than making grappling

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 06:00:59 UTC No. 135126

>Yokozuna Isekai

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 06:15:13 UTC No. 135128

>>135126
is it good? I've seen the cover art posted here and there.

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 06:20:43 UTC No. 135129

>>135128
only two chapters translated

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 07:47:33 UTC No. 135136

>>135126
There's a sumo LN out there that's officially licensed in English. It's called Grand Sumo Villainess. I quit after the first chapter. It's really trashy. It's about a woman in fantasy medieval times that awakens a power within her where she can beat people up with kimarite and has magic powers. It turns out in her previous life, she was in a school sumo club. It's just as good as any of the other otome game villainess isekai; that is to say, it's shit.
Here's the first chapter if you want to give it a go: https://j-novel.club/series/grand-sumo-villainess

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 08:51:48 UTC No. 135145

>>135136
the only good sumo manga is Bachi Bachi and its sequels

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 09:24:05 UTC No. 135150

>>135145
but does it have cute girls

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 09:57:39 UTC No. 135155

>>135150
yes

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 09:30:24 UTC No. 135295

>>135155
I will now read your manga.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 14:55:30 UTC No. 135314

>>135145
>the only good sumo manga is Bachi Bachi
Wrong.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:33:33 UTC No. 135329

>>135145
Where could one read it

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 22:54:53 UTC No. 135366

>>135329
idk

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 00:28:18 UTC No. 135385

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDZyyQT0xK0

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 02:09:49 UTC No. 135405

>>135042
>Also, the sheer size of that training hall.
Land in Ibaraki is pretty cheap.

But yeah, all credit to Kisenosato for trying to optimize a system instead of just sagging into the traditional methods without question.

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 02:43:40 UTC No. 135425

More recent history.
May 12, 1974; Takamiyama vs Wajima.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU29ale_6ck

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 06:11:22 UTC No. 135449

>>135405
>credit to Kisenosato
He's a fan of NFL football and studied it during his college days. They probably inspired him to take some different approaches in sumo.

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2023/02/08/kiji/20230208s00005000047000c.html

Former Yokozuna Rare Showdown: The Super Bowl: The same tactics in football as in Sumo, an inter-personal sport.

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 07:48:18 UTC No. 135455

>>135385
>N64 sumo game
WHAT THE FUCK???????

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 16:19:37 UTC No. 135480

Why is it considered a faux pas in the Anglophone sumo fandom to call rikishi "sumos" when the Japs get to use "osumosan"?

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 17:55:10 UTC No. 135488

>>135480
because of gatekeeping weebs.

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:11:34 UTC No. 135490

>>135480
>osumosan
That's Mr Sumo for you

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 23:15:47 UTC No. 135527

>>135480
>>135488
Osumosan is a form of direct address. As in
>Hey, Sumo Guy (Osumosan), you dropped your wallet!
because you don't know his name but want to be polite and acknowledge his status.

Rikishi (and sumotori) isn't used to address anyone. As in
>Bro I saw a bunch of rikishi earlier. One of them dropped his wallet so I said, "Hey, Osumosan, you dropped your wallet!"

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 23:18:56 UTC No. 135528

>>135527
>>135480
You'd think it'd be osumosenshu though.

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Feb 2023 00:46:16 UTC No. 135534

>>135528
No, neither of those words work like that. Sumotori is basically the idea that you mean though, as kind of meaning 'sumo-doer'

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Feb 2023 04:05:37 UTC No. 135547

>>135527
There's a bunch of instances I can think of on Sumo Prime Time where Japs use it as a general term. You hear "osumosan" way more than "rikishi" during the rare non-honky fan interviews, though it's usually rendered in the subs as "rikishi". And in the recent gyoji video, when Kimura Chishu was explaining how sumoji is supposed to resemble a wrestler's body, he says "osumosan no taikei" which is translated in the subs as "the rikishi's body".

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Feb 2023 04:21:53 UTC No. 135550

>>135547
I wonder if there's a general egalitarian reason for the difference in usages, given the etymology of "rikishi," whereas "osumosan" is less class-centric "guy who does sumo."

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Feb 2023 05:34:37 UTC No. 135554

December 1, 1887. The start of a 7-day sumo exhibition in Osaka of Japanese rikishi against foreign rikishi. There was a smattering of similar events around the same time, but this seems to have been the biggest. The foreigners were given ranks, & so on the left we have "ozeki Webster", "sekiwake Collins", "komusubi Sweeney", "maegashira Richardson" etc.

Hard to find any details on how it went, but several of the foreign rikishi were sued for taking part because they were breaking contracts elsewhere to appear in the Osaka event (the Osaka sponsor was paying more).

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Feb 2023 11:39:57 UTC No. 135570

Shohozan had this danpatsu-shiki and is looking smily compared to his eternal frown face

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Feb 2023 15:28:32 UTC No. 135579

>>135480
I call them wrestlers.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Feb 2023 05:44:25 UTC No. 135638

>>135570
Looking like a boss.

Miss that dude in the dohyo.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Feb 2023 09:19:16 UTC No. 135657

Gaga has lost shit ton of weight

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:17:14 UTC No. 135664

1920s tuberculosis awareness ad.
>Train your body to be strong!

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:18:33 UTC No. 135665

1920s tuberculosis awareness ad.
>Train your body to be strong!

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Feb 2023 15:15:34 UTC No. 135673

>>135657
He's looking like a boss. Nice to see him slim down.

WTF is he up to? Is he working with a stable?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Feb 2023 15:16:59 UTC No. 135674

>>135657
Height mogged

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:10:40 UTC No. 135763

Jungyo days, c. Meiji 30.
Maybe one of my favorite shots for how much of the crowd we get to see, even if the hand coloring is probably not accurate.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:48:06 UTC No. 135799

>>135763
Why did they let a little boy be a gyoji?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:14:27 UTC No. 135815

>>135799
Because it's jungyo, the ideal time to fuck around

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:57:30 UTC No. 135866

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsOlUdBeA2s
Chris turned comments off on his newest video, probably because it features that Kashiwa Juniors kid with Down syndrome winning matches and he's afraid of people making jokes about retard strength.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 16:26:50 UTC No. 135867

>>135866
Kotomitsuki's son looks like tremendous asshole.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 16:35:15 UTC No. 135870

>>135866
Future of Shikihide-beya looking bright

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 16:46:34 UTC No. 135874

>>135866
JSA figured out the only way for japan to defeat mongols was with actual mongos. Genius.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:03:03 UTC No. 135885

Who has the most sizeable female fanbase?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 20:13:49 UTC No. 135893

>>135885
out of the maegashira definitely Endo

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 04:45:34 UTC No. 135955

>>135885
Endo, Ura, Enho, I suppose.
Honorable mention: Chiyomaru.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:53:20 UTC No. 135974

>>135885
Girls used to get pretty moist for Tochinoshin.
Also it's pretty well-known among Japanese fan circles that Ura's hung like a bull moose, I'm sure that influences the numbers.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:00:07 UTC No. 135986

>>135974
>it's pretty well-known among Japanese fan circles
What, is he posting pictures of his cock?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:48:50 UTC No. 135991

>>135986
He had an Onlyfans

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:11:57 UTC No. 136009

>>135986
He had a mawashi come loose at an exhibition match back in I wanna say 2017? It was memed pretty heavily in the Japanese sumosphere back then.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 18:51:26 UTC No. 136053

This conversation reminded me of this dude
https://www.instagram.com/gocchanko/?hl=en
Ex lower tier rikishi, honestly can't remember his name.
I've heard reports that he also works as a male escort, for those lonely nip women who want to fulfill their rikishi fantasies.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 19:00:22 UTC No. 136054

Jesus Christ Chris's latest post

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 19:26:41 UTC No. 136058

>>136054
Absolutely amazing.
Says nothing of substance and spends the rest of the time jacking himself off in text form.
At this point I have no reason to believe any of his unsubstantiated claims on who he talks to. His cover of having these conversations off camera is perfect, and I'm sure he does have a working relationship with a small group of people. But his past paparazzi like activities to the point of just hanging around outside stables leads me to believe he constantly outright lies or embellishes.
At this point I end up watching most of his videos on mute. A majority of his recent footage has been really good, but god I don't want to listen to that man's mind reading anymore.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:05:36 UTC No. 136074

>>135885
Asanoyama always gets mad amounts of supporting female ganbare shouts during his bouts, even more than most makuuchi guys, though I think he just has mass general appeal. Everyone from the children to the grandpa contingent love him.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:59:22 UTC No. 136153

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Feb 2023 13:57:42 UTC No. 136157

>>136153
Looks very similar to the tuberculosis awareness ad posted a couple of days ago

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 01:56:07 UTC No. 136216

>>135570
I miss him so bad bros

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 04:07:26 UTC No. 136223

>[because of the foreigner slot,] as soon as Terunofuji retires, he can appear at the next shindeshi kensa

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 05:11:35 UTC No. 136227

>>135986
reminds me of that one low ranking rikishi who sent a dick pic to a trap who proceeded to publicly ridicule him on Twitter

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 12:51:27 UTC No. 136251

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwSo8EF5pII
New SPT featuring Takakeisho sweating a hole into the fabric of reality and Hiro being a cringelord.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 12:56:39 UTC No. 136252

>>136251
Very awkward, I like

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:42:16 UTC No. 136261

I've heard that in sumo matches the goal is simply to push your opponent out of the ring But isn't that just brute force? It seems like there's no real technique or skill involved
Why bother with all the rituals and training if it just comes down to shoving?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:52:00 UTC No. 136262

>>136261
You either push the guy out or force him to the ground. You lose if you touch the ground with anything but the soles of your feet, once the match starts. So standard grappling techniques apply, and there's a lot of crossover with judo's standup grappling. But even for "just" shoving there's a lot of technique involved knowing how to properly apply physics, not to mention defending yourself since the other guy also wants to shove you out. It's easy to just shove a training dummy full force, a lot harder when it's an opponent who will shove back, dig his heels in to stay sturdy, sidestep to avoid your shoves, and/or grab a hold of your belt.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:58:54 UTC No. 136263

>>136261
>It seems like there's no real technique or skill involved

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 15:02:00 UTC No. 136264

>>136261
There's a method to the madness. There's basically two types of sumo, oshi-zumō (push / thrust) and yotsu-zumō (belt / grappling).

The push / thrusters rely on an explosive tachia / initial charge, and try to strike at points that will get their opponents weight raised so they are easier to manipulate backwards and out of the ring. This approach takes good technique, speed, strength, and timing, and it can be dangerous as many opponents are very good at countering this approach. When done right, it's an awesome thing to see as you can recognize the technique, speed, and strength blended together to earn the victory.

The yotsu-zumo guys also display an immense amount of skill, and you can see how those original sumo techniques were adopted and used by a variety of other Asian martial arts.

Check out this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cN9snHWCRA

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 15:06:22 UTC No. 136266

>>136261
>Why bother with all the rituals and training if it just comes down to shoving?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crvEQ6yvHjU

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 15:34:38 UTC No. 136269

>>136261
You're 100% right, you should stop watching this sport, and tell everyone you know to stop.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 20:45:41 UTC No. 136289

>>136261
gotta try harder with your bait.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Feb 2023 21:11:19 UTC No. 136291

>>136261

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Feb 2023 08:04:09 UTC No. 136325

>>136289
Looks to me it was successful, look at those (you)

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Feb 2023 09:50:48 UTC No. 136327

>>136261
Go watch UFC then

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Feb 2023 16:01:04 UTC No. 136345

avin a fag

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Feb 2023 16:13:30 UTC No. 136346

>>136345
Damn those are some big feet. What's the current stance on rikishi smoking publically?

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Feb 2023 16:42:30 UTC No. 136347

>>136346
>What's the current stance on rikishi smoking publicly?
Looking around, not smoking at least on camera seems to have been an unwritten rule for quite a long time.
Also saw an article from 2005, when they banned spectators smoking in the Kokugikan, that wrote to the effect of 'while you can still catch glimpses of some smokers in the shitakubeya today (such as Miyabiyama, Kokkai, Kyokutenhou), the rule is expected to eventually be expanded to include the rikishi as well'. Would we even know now if that has already happened? I feel as though the NSK would be embarrassed to admit they have athletes who are smokers in the first place.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Feb 2023 19:19:12 UTC No. 136357

Banzuke is next week right?

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Feb 2023 00:19:11 UTC No. 136381

>>136345
>Flavor Country-shusshin

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Feb 2023 13:15:27 UTC No. 136435

>>136357
Feb 27.

https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/year_schedule

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Feb 2023 13:33:34 UTC No. 136436

>>136347
If there is a stance, it probably wouldn't be made public, since the Japanese would prefer to not have policies that make it look like they constantly need to rein in their guys.

It's known that some wrestlers still smoke (Abi, for example) but in general smoking rates are decreasing in Japan just like everywhere else.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Feb 2023 19:10:52 UTC No. 136481

>>136436
All this reminded me, I have a 'rikishi profiles' thing for makuuchi from around 1911 where one of the questions asked what brand they smoked. I think only two or three said they didn't like smoking.
IIRC the most-favored brand by the numbers was Mikasa.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Feb 2023 03:52:14 UTC No. 136527

>>135366
=/

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Feb 2023 08:29:27 UTC No. 136537

>>136527
You can get the raws off Nyaa, I only mean that no one's translated them.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:20:05 UTC No. 136543

>>136537
I should add that the manga's protagonist starts from the bottom, like in reality. Low makushita guys are daunting and beat the shit out of him in keiko at first, and he gradually makes his way up.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Feb 2023 17:17:19 UTC No. 136664

September 1954: with Tochinishiki being promoted to yokozuna the same tournament as Azumafuji's retirement, there was for a very brief period the only time in history there were five yokozuna. Azumafuji's retirement also meant the end of the pre-YDC yokozuna.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Feb 2023 17:48:47 UTC No. 136667

>>136664
Chiyonoyama lookin HOT

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:13:15 UTC No. 136670

>>136667
I like the round fellow on the right, who is he?

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:17:37 UTC No. 136671

>>136670
Kagamisato

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:24:35 UTC No. 136674

>>136671
Thank you fren

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Feb 2023 06:24:19 UTC No. 136735

found an event where YOU can throw the salt:

https://youtu.be/pKYHu8TtR0A?t=546

it should be added to the section "Shrines and festivals" in the pastebin

at the moment I'm unable to maintain the pastebin
please, some of you guys have to do the updates

I'm sorry

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Feb 2023 08:21:36 UTC No. 136738

>NHK sumo announcer got caught after breaking and entering into a female announcers apartment. He jumped from the third floor of his home when he was being arrested and was taken to the hospital
He was so horny

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Feb 2023 09:07:03 UTC No. 136740

>>136738
The name! I want the name!

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Feb 2023 15:29:37 UTC No. 136760

>>136740
Funaoka. He was the main yusho interview guy.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Feb 2023 19:49:53 UTC No. 136796

>>136760
The "housouseki, housouseki" guy? Absolutely fucking based.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Feb 2023 21:49:01 UTC No. 136817

>>136796
I don't think so, but don't know how to search it. He was also in the booth sometimes.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Feb 2023 12:26:32 UTC No. 136857

Takakeisho heading to his favourite restaurant after yusho celebration at his heyas-ward

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:13:33 UTC No. 136860

>>136857

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:30:14 UTC No. 136861

>>136860
>Genius

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:58:11 UTC No. 136862