🧵 /sumo/ Hawaii Sumotori
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:27:53 UTC No. 208824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1K
>Schedule:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/yea
>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.
>All the sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d
Previous thread: >>202772
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:34:13 UTC No. 208826
>>208824
>Akebono
>Musashimaru
>and Konishiki
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:39:08 UTC No. 208827
>>208826
Famous idols in Japan, or so I've heard.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 20:38:30 UTC No. 208849
Is Koga going to be a life long sumo shitter cleaning toilets and cooking chanko in jonidan till he gets diabetes and croaks?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 23:09:51 UTC No. 208857
>>208849
Peaks at high sandanme. Retires aged 27 and becomes an actor. Becomes an unlikely sex symbol in his mid-30s, coinciding with the New Golden Age of period dramas. Dies aged 59 after choking on mochi at his holiday home.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 09:12:39 UTC No. 208897
I like Kogas unibrow
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 10:23:42 UTC No. 208900
>>208892
>>208824
Rest in peace Chad I wish I was a oldfag and got to watch him sumo live.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 15:41:05 UTC No. 208926
Story on why Shodai has no shikona?
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 15:48:02 UTC No. 208928
>>208926
"Lord of Chaos" was too long when rendered in katakana.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 15:52:42 UTC No. 208932
>>208926
Shodai Monoii Monoii Shodai
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 16:02:25 UTC No. 208936
>>208926
His stable master likes his name, that's about it.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 18:42:05 UTC No. 208969
>>208966
I found the X account that the meme was based off of.
https://nitter.poast.org/thatwinegu
Bizarre stuff.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 18:55:21 UTC No. 208970
>>208969
Must be a bot account, or Jason is literal mental patient
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 19:29:27 UTC No. 208972
>>208970
I'd bet any amount of money that the guy behind that account has posted in /sumo/ before.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 19:36:29 UTC No. 208973
>>208910
>>208966
>>208969
Those are absolutely the same picture, just with a filter applied. The hair, the beard and the ears are a perfect match. What the fuck have we uncovered, anons.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:15:25 UTC No. 208975
Nabatame's awful performance in Nagoya has so thoroughly shamed Futagoyama beya that they still haven't posted any post basho videos on their youtube channel. They're just slowly trickling out the pre basho material and hoping that Aki goes well enough that they can skip posting any material from after Nagoya.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Aug 2024 22:28:08 UTC No. 208984
How much does it cost to send my son to saitama sakae
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 01:07:33 UTC No. 208995
>>208824
i used to watch him whenever they showed sumo on eurosport back in the day with my grandfather. my grandfather died a couple of weeks ago
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 02:53:12 UTC No. 209007
go back to the old thread retards
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:10:57 UTC No. 209020
>>209000
We need someone with Konishikis freak like physiqye in sumo
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:10:30 UTC No. 209028
>>209007
The old thread is smelly and weird.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:14:28 UTC No. 209034
I’m the anon from the last thread. How can you confirm if a tegata is fake? Is there a reputable place to buy them? I really want a hakuho and ryuden tegata but don’t want to end up with a fake.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:22:29 UTC No. 209036
>>209034
If you want a reputable source, you're probably going to have to go to Reddit.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:21:43 UTC No. 209053
>>209034
all of the ones for sale are counterfeits, you can get real ones if you're in a supporter's club
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:43:21 UTC No. 209070
Nabatame down to Ms4e, he is opposite Aonishiki at 4w. They might end up facing off.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:03:08 UTC No. 209073
Shonnanoumi really dropped the ball last bash I hope he can put up some numbers this basho. Hes so close to breaking his limits anime style.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:44:32 UTC No. 209081
keisho will be retired before the end of this year
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:27:55 UTC No. 209082
I'm surprised Onosho went down to Juryo instead of Nishikifuji.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:31:46 UTC No. 209083
>>209082
Same. Onosho got fucked. I guess Isegahama still has a lot of stroke on the banzuke committee.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:35:21 UTC No. 209085
Takayasu Maega 15.
He'S gonna have weak opponets and get an easy yusho.
I believe
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:58:13 UTC No. 209094
I'm glad /xs/ survived the purge (even though /sumo/ is the fasted thread on the board my miles).
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:26:42 UTC No. 209099
>>209069
>kotoshoho m4
I hope he can break through and join kotozakura at the top hes had a solid run of KKs Maybe he can start putting up some 10+ win bashos
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 15:36:09 UTC No. 209113
>>209088
Sure, going oh-fer from M5 does warrant a drop to juryo, but I did not think he deserved to fall when Nishikifuji kept his rank.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:18:52 UTC No. 209120
How come whenever the new banzuke comes out theres never anybody posting
>looks like the banzuke committee did a great job organizing the banzuke, looks like everyone ended up just about where they should be. I sure do like sumo, it may not be perfect, but it is managed very professionally, which I appreciate.
but there are always dozens of posts of
>HOLY SHIT THOSE FUCKING MORONS ARE SUCH IDIOTS OMG!!! I CAN'T BELIVE THE PUT THAT GUY HALF A RANK LOWER THAN I THOUGHT HE SHOULD BE. M13 WEST!?!?!?! WEST!?!?! WHAT WRONG WITH THOSE FATSOS!?!?! WERE THEY ALL DRUNK OR ARE THEY JUST INCREDIBLY STUPID!?!?!
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:25:47 UTC No. 209122
>>209120
Because they nearly always do at least one thing that comes clean out of left-field with absolutely zero forewarning or predictability.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:44:26 UTC No. 209123
>>209122
that wouldn't make it a bad job, though
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:48:30 UTC No. 209124
>>209123
The thing is, doing one thing that makes absolutely no fucking sense has massive knock-on effects on the rest of the Banzuke. Relocating one wrestler two ranks because -reasons- means basically every wrestler between those two ranks is out of place now. And it's never just one wrestler, it's always two, three, or more.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:27:13 UTC No. 209131
>>209124
>doing one thing that makes absolutely no fucking sense has massive knock-on effects on the rest of the Banzuke
You're getting it the wrong way round. They make as few strange moves as possible so as to be able to make stable, easy-to-guess placements for everyone else. Removing their ability to make those rare strange moves would turn every banzuke into a nightmare and a farce.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 19:45:20 UTC No. 209136
>>209131
>Yamanoumi is the sixth M5 AGAIN, banzuke team should commit sudoku
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Aug 2024 06:24:53 UTC No. 209164
>Keisho will retire as a yokozunalet
maybe he should've try to keep the slop down a little bit, fat fuck
>>209120
>slobbering on JSA cock
200 yen have been deposited to your account
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Aug 2024 12:12:16 UTC No. 209176
>>209120
banzuke autism is the least interesting part of sumo. the hairdressing is more interesting.
>he went 7-8 and went down slightly
>other guy went 5-10 and went down more
amazing
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Aug 2024 18:10:33 UTC No. 209208
>>209176
Banzuke autism is an insight into the mostly closed-off world of JSA politics.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Aug 2024 18:35:44 UTC No. 209211
>>209176
>banzuke autism is the least interesting part of sumo
It's fun when it's documenting newly set records or strange stuff. Like: who's had the longest single makuuchi stretch without ever achieving kachikoshi? Shit like that is fun and interesting.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Aug 2024 18:37:21 UTC No. 209212
>>209211
>who's had the longest single makuuchi stretch without ever achieving kachikoshi?
The answer?
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Aug 2024 19:19:34 UTC No. 209215
>>208849
Will look and fight like Moriurara soon.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 10:56:10 UTC No. 209265
My guy in Makushita, Higonoumi up to 25E
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:45:58 UTC No. 209283
Any news on Kazuma if he will enter this basho?
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 20:42:31 UTC No. 209304
>>209283
He certainly shouldn't enter. As far as I know he's up and walking again but if I was his master I wouldn't even consider letting him fight until at least November.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:23:38 UTC No. 209378
Chris really missed an angle on his video about the all stables practice, giving no coverage whatsoever to Takanosho, the Nagoya JY winner. With Teru out, Takanosho should be seen as a top contender as much as anyone.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:57:13 UTC No. 209381
>>209378
Terunofuji is out of the practice? Or next basho? I hadn't heard the latter.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:29:05 UTC No. 209383
he isn't going to go from his current condition to being able to deliver yokozuna sumo in a little bit over a week
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:48:21 UTC No. 209384
This British kid who recently joined Minato beya did so because he saw it as a way to escape and possibly survive the genocidal replacement regime thats currently wiping out all of the natives in the UK
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 22:10:00 UTC No. 209385
>>209378
Who gives a fuck about takanosho hes peaked and getting older hes not consistent like hosh and zak
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:25:23 UTC No. 209395
>>209378
Onosucko getting yelled at for being a pussy with no heart at all stables practice. I hope he tanks to Jonidan.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 04:20:18 UTC No. 209408
>>209385
>Who gives a fuck about takanosho
I do
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 17:53:25 UTC No. 209441
>>209395
you're in for an unpleasant next decade if onosato triggers you that badly
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:24:44 UTC No. 209444
>>209395
i bet your favorite is abi
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 21:24:05 UTC No. 209457
>>209444
abi is everyone's favorite
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 23:22:37 UTC No. 209468
>>209457
no. i hate abi most
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 00:22:10 UTC No. 209469
>>209444
Wrong
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 09:55:28 UTC No. 209490
>>209486
Not by me I wish sumo had better highschool coverage so I could have discovered him as soon as possible. Hakuoho is scary good watch he will pass up onosato and takerfuji if he stays healthy. Hes just as strong as them but wayyyyy more technical his shishi fight sold me.
This kid is the future
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 10:14:11 UTC No. 209491
>>209490
>if
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:17:37 UTC No. 209498
>latest futagoyama video opens with koga going 0-5 in practice bouts
kek, what is this ugly fuck going to do when kikuchi gets too good for him? Can't be long now.
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:12:32 UTC No. 209506
>>209498
He's still 18, you know. I don't know why people act as if he's already a middle-aged lifer with no prospects for improvement. There are very few men who hit their peak at 18.
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:12:36 UTC No. 209507
>>209498
kikuchi is more likeable and outspoken, hope he rolls over koga soon.
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:20:56 UTC No. 209508
>>209490
>Hakuoho is scary good watch he will pass up onosato and takerfuji
Guess we might see in September if they both actually show up.
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 15:07:27 UTC No. 209512
When are those sneaky japs at the JSA going to give Hakuho Miyagino back. Onoshito can haze people all he likes but poor Hokuseiho does a little cheeky ball slapping and wallet gluing and all of a sudden its the end of the world.
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 15:32:23 UTC No. 209514
>>209467
Every time I watch him I'm always stunned how massive he was. Not even like Konishiki was, his frame and height was just incredible for a rikishi.
Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 15:51:12 UTC No. 209515
>>209514
The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. To me, Akebono set the standard for being the big man in a sport full of big men. If we ever see his like again, we'll be very lucky.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 01:40:40 UTC No. 209554
>>209515
Ichinojo had his chance, but he drank it away.
Its worth noting that Mongol empire was short lived and underperformed it's potential pretty much because Genghis' successor was a drunk.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 01:44:15 UTC No. 209555
>>209515
>The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long
I don't think his heart attacks and strokes had anything to do with his size given, you know, Konishiki and Musashimaru are still fine
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 01:53:14 UTC No. 209556
>>209515
>>209554
Big men like that need linebacker training. If they stick with just sumo training or something like judo then they get stood up and knocked off balance too easily, so they bloat up too much to try and compensate. The next big (in both senses) yokozuna is going to be a failed football prospect.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 10:07:53 UTC No. 209585
>>209556
you need to have good mobility and a solid foundation in combat sports to do well in sumo. american football will just wear you down
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 10:20:34 UTC No. 209587
>>209555
My grandfather smoked from the age of 9 to his death (of old age) at 86, but it's still reasonable to say that smoking shortens your lifespan.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 10:28:45 UTC No. 209588
>>209587
my granfather who quit smoking in his 40s lived until he was 92. the other who didnt died in his 60s. i wouldnt have any memories of watching sumo with him if he didnt quit when he did i think
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 11:40:29 UTC No. 209591
>>209587
>shortens your lifespan
I'm certainly not arguing against that point. What I meant was only that he was atypically young to die even for someone of his profession, and the continuing survival of Konishiki and Musashimaru still makes him the minority when we factor in size.
The average life expectancy of a sekitori is supposedly 62, and they tend to die suddenly. Akebono was 47 when he had the heart attack, and essentially never left the hospital after it. Probably the pro wrestling turn played a significant role, if not the primary role.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 15:47:03 UTC No. 209606
>>209591
I agree that he was very young, even for a (large) rikishi. However, averages and statistics in general can be very misleading and not at all intuitive. I don't have the data to say whether the average age at death for sekitori is low because of a lower percentage of men that make it into their 80s, or a higher number of men who don't make it out of their 40s, for example. I think when you consider that men exceeding 200kg are rare even in sumo, your sample size is going to be too small to draw a proper conclusion anyway. After all, fellow Hawaiian Takamiyama fought at above 200kg too, and he turned 80 this summer - for all we know, the superheavyweights might turn out to have a higher average life expectancy than the "average" sized rikishi. I suspect that this isn't the case, but either way, we'd need to look a good few decades into the future to find out exactly how much younger than average poor old Akebono was for his size.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 16:19:01 UTC No. 209607
>>209588
I read that it takes 15 years for your lungs to recover so by 55 your granddad was safe (as in back to non-smoker levels), yeah.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 16:21:51 UTC No. 209609
>>209585
Combat sports only matters in terms of upper body grappling. Stuff like judo and bokh obviously have it but not exclusively, whereas being a lineman in American football is literally all about upper body grappling while remaining mobile. There's a reason why the Hawaiians succeeded despite no wrestling experience, because they had football experience.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 18:42:33 UTC No. 209613
>>209556
>The next big (in both senses) yokozuna is going to be a failed football prospect.
A failed football project could play in the AFL and still have a bigger salary than anybody in sumo.
>>209609
>There's a reason why the Hawaiians succeeded despite no wrestling experience, because they had football experience.
Akebono was a basketball player. Musashimaru played football but also competed in Greco-Roman wrestling.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Sep 2024 23:29:20 UTC No. 209631
>>209585
>>209556
>>209613
not that anon, but linebacker training would have more mobility and agility training than judo or other things. would it necessarily transfer is debatable. half the things that would better you to take pursuit angles and coverage would be useless. also backers aren't supposed to get caught up on individual pushing matches, so thats not great example.
>failed football prospect.
unlikely since by the time you figure that out you are too old. if you didn't make it d1, its doubtful your just going to switch to sumo easily post highschool and meet all the requirements in time. its not like baseball where the mlb can just poach whoever they want
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 20:52:55 UTC No. 209699
>>209588
Smoking is only unhealthy for people over 40 years old. What the massive anti-tobacco propaganda movement says is at odds with the data collected on the topic. The single largest and longest term study of tobacco use found that people who quit smoking before age 40 have the same life expectancy as people who never smoked.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 22:22:25 UTC No. 209712
>>209699
>Implying life expectancy = quality of life
Go back to /pol/, retard. I bet they convinced you vegetables were cancerous too.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 22:41:53 UTC No. 209715
>>209609
>being a lineman in American football is literally all about upper body grappling
most of the moves commonly used in sumo would be called as penalties in football, linemen would have a built up a lifetime of bad habits that they would have to unlearn to become effective sumo wrestlers.
>linebacker in a sumo match: dodges opponent's tachiai and runs past him out of the ring
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 05:50:33 UTC No. 209741
>>209699
retard
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 06:04:44 UTC No. 209744
>>209378
>hopes for a back to back yusho from some random maegashitter
first time?
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 17:15:25 UTC No. 209778
interesting development about our long lost friend wallet-glue-zeki in the latest chris video
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 17:29:11 UTC No. 209779
>>209778
Fuck off
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 19:17:08 UTC No. 209790
>>209778
Hokuseiho deserves another shot.
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 19:56:16 UTC No. 209797
>>209790
All he needs to do is change his name and wear glasses. They'd let him back in for sure.
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 20:00:35 UTC No. 209798
>>209797
People would notice immediately due to his inimitable style of sumo.
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 20:33:46 UTC No. 209800
>>209798
Couldn't he just switch arms?
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Sep 2024 20:41:00 UTC No. 209803
>>209800
No, he wouldn't be doing his own style of sumo then. He'd lose for sure.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:08:20 UTC No. 209815
>>209778
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on glue.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 02:19:55 UTC No. 209823
>>209778
Honestly this was hakuho's fault not controlling his student its not like he beat them with a metal bad just a little hazing. A Dogeza and a fine payed to the affected wrestlers would be enough.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 03:41:33 UTC No. 209828
>>209823
You're never getting the trust back in the heya after he's been stealing from wallets. Not in a million years.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 05:56:34 UTC No. 209841
>>209786
As expected of a wrestler who lasted +13 years as a sekitori.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 06:41:47 UTC No. 209843
>>209790
I really do miss him, standing there all majestic like with one arm hanging free, swaying in the wind.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 06:56:18 UTC No. 209844
>>209828
Seemed okay with it if it went on for a year. Just sell him to a different stable after he pays fines to the stolen from wrestlers.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:32:43 UTC No. 209848
>>209844
We don't know what the timeline of events was. It could have been getting progressively worse over the year, culminating in the wallet stealing and MGS2 hijinks. Maybe he started out the same as Onosato has, and went further each time he wasn't punished.
>sell him to a different stable
NSK doesn't do that.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 11:14:42 UTC No. 209850
>>209786
A king.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:05:40 UTC No. 209879
>>209848
What you've heard of wasn't the worst of it, just the worst that the JSA is prepared to publicly admit to. I was told by my good friend Taro Detarame, a sumo insider of some renown, that Hokuseiho is very lucky he didn't get arrested for some of his actions. There's more than one kind of wallet you can glue shut, after all.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:25:58 UTC No. 209880
>>209381
The latest Chris video says Teru is not going to be competing for Aki.
Chris also says that KiriSHITma thinks he is going to be making ozeki again my March.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 01:31:30 UTC No. 209894
>>209880
>The latest Chris video says Teru is not going to be competing for Aki.
That's not really a surprise. He wasn't doing any practice matches on tour, and his body is no longer capable of recovering from a 15-day tournament in just six weeks.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:07:40 UTC No. 209906
>>209880
KiriSHITma's only shot at regaining ozeki is tons of injuries in the upper ranks. The banzuke was extremely weak back when he managed to squeak his way in the first time around. Taknosho back in the joi particularly spells bad news for KiriSHITma, Taknosho is lifetime 14-2 against him
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:06:21 UTC No. 209909
Kirishima is fucking boring I don't see how anyone likes hes my hakuseiho
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 05:13:49 UTC No. 209910
>>209880
NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHAT CHRIS THINKS HOLY SHIT
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:53:49 UTC No. 209927
>>209911
That guy's just been having a stroke about Kirishima for years now.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 17:19:14 UTC No. 209950
Another great update on sumo news from Chris today. Is this really Keisho's last hurrah?
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 17:42:08 UTC No. 209952
>>209950
I can't imagine him getting 10 wins. If he does it'll be as Chris quoted him as saying - ugly, dishonourable sumo for the sake of winning at all costs. Once you abandon "My Brand of Sumo" then it's all over. He can't honestly expect to be able to henka his way through every other tournament in the hopes that his neck miraculously heals itself and he can return to form. If I was his master, I'd tell him to avoid the win-at-all-costs mentality and focus on providing the crowd with the strongest and most dignified sumo he can still manage, and retire immediately after the tournament if he fails to reach 10 wins.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 20:47:32 UTC No. 209969
>>209952
TakaKEKisho will juggernaut this basho and die on the dohyo
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 21:51:22 UTC No. 209979
>>209969
They don't call it Wacky Aki for nothing.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 22:10:40 UTC No. 209981
>>209969
A fitting honorable death for the man that gave everything to sumo
He is the heart of sumo
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Sep 2024 22:26:00 UTC No. 209983
>>209969
I'll be the first to give him a posthumous "his yokozuna run begins NOW"
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 02:09:37 UTC No. 210009
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 08:09:39 UTC No. 210036
>>209983
kek
El Hamtaro Muerto [Tier SSS]
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 08:15:14 UTC No. 210037
with Teru out, cup is up for grabs again.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 08:57:36 UTC No. 210039
>>210009
t. akakeisho
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 11:14:10 UTC No. 210047
>>210037
Still waiting for kotozakura to do something but idk I kinda wish he'd sit and heal up before his injuries become a real problem.
Its time for him to start being great instead of being other peoples stepping stone to be great.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:26:18 UTC No. 210053
>>209952
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even make it the full 15 days.
If he starts 1-3 or something then he might as well just pack it in. There's no dignity in handing out free wins. Better to be honest with yourself, ignore your ego, and accept that you can no longer compete.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:28:18 UTC No. 210054
>nabatame had to do his juryo promotion party despite already being demoted to makushita
humiliation ritual
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 13:05:47 UTC No. 210056
>>210053
The last time Takakeisho was relatively health-ish was in January 2023. He somehow managed to win another Basho in September but he was clearly not healthy when he did it.
Since then, he is losing to a bunch of people he would steamroll if he had a half decent health. The longer he stays the worse his record will be.
I think even if he somehow manages to henka his way to 10 wins he should just do a surgery as soon as he gets it and return when he is fully healthy, even if it takes a drop to lower maegashira or upper juryo if he takes a year off.
A fully healthy Keisho should be able to return to Ozeki in a year from upper juryo.
But being realistically he should just retire. Being the 2nd best non-Yokozuna ever with 5JY and 3 Y as Ozeki, plus 3JY and 1Y as upper maegashira and komosubi/sekiwake is a pretty good career.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 14:26:13 UTC No. 210065
>>210056
He's not going to return to anywhere near his peak strength, even if he takes two years off. Takakeisho is a man who has pushed himself further than he should have been able to in pursuit of success, in a similar way to someone like Ronnie Coleman (currently doing his best to relearn how to walk, as far as I know). Takakeisho has burned himself out and broken his body in ways that he'll be feeling for the rest of his life. Maybe if he'd made it to Yokozuna and been able to take time off when he really needed it things would have turned out differently. As it stands, I think he's done for and I expect him to retire before the year is out.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 14:44:11 UTC No. 210066
>>210065
the oyakata run begins NOW takakeibros
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 16:29:52 UTC No. 210081
>>210065
>Maybe if he'd made it to Yokozuna and been able to take time off when he really needed it things would have turned out differently.
Yeah. Being able to take time off without fear of demotion would allow him to heal up, but with his small size and cannonballing style he was never going to last. I doubt he would have lasted to age 30 in any case.
He should retire, get his neck fixed, start losing weight, and focus on training up the next generation. He's quite popular so recruiting shouldn't be too difficult.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 18:48:17 UTC No. 210108
>>210081
>He's quite popular so recruiting shouldn't be too difficult.
Come to Takakeisho Beya and learn to be a cripple by the time you're in your mid 20s, learn to become even more predictable than Abi…
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 18:58:50 UTC No. 210110
>>210108
yeah what could the guy who reached the second highest rank in the sport during the reign of the most dominant yokozuna in history possibly have to teach new wrestlers
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 19:01:07 UTC No. 210111
1 sleep before sumo, i'm fucking hype.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 19:02:31 UTC No. 210113
>>210110
Considering that Hakuho is kind of a shit teacher, probably less than you think
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 19:06:32 UTC No. 210116
>>210113
Yeah but Hakuho never had to compete with Yokozuna Hakuho. Back when Hakuho was an Ozeki, Hakuho was still just an Ozeki.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 20:05:25 UTC No. 210122
>>210113
What makes you say he’s a bad teacher. All the guys from his stable seem to like him and some have quit since having to merge with isegahama.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 20:07:44 UTC No. 210124
>>210122
>What makes you say he’s a bad teacher.
He let some big psycho terrorize all his students for a long time
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 20:51:19 UTC No. 210130
>>210122
It's not necessarily that he's a bad teacher (although he seems to be doing much better under experienced supervision), it's that even though he's unquestionably the greatest rikishi of all time, that doesn't translate into being the greatest oyakata of all time. Conversely, there are and always have been many stables run by comparatively mediocre rikishi that have nonetheless churned out star after star. As a case in point, Isegahama-oyakata reached Yokozuna at the ripe old age of 30, spent only two years at the rank, and won la mere 4 tournaments. He has successfully raised Harumafuji and Terunofuji, both of whom far eclipsed their master's achievements. A poster from 1992, when Asahifuji retired, might have said something like "Come to Asahifuji Beya and learn to lose over and over again to the san'yaku".
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 01:42:32 UTC No. 210156
Churanoumi looked sharp in Kise beya practice bouts in their video dated Sept 3. Ura and Kinbozan did not participate.
Matchups for the 1st two days are out for jakuuchi and day 1 for juryo. Takerufuji opens up against the chinaman.
Shodai back in the joi, last time he was ranked that high he pulled off a 4-11, but still managed to score a kinboshi. Thats a huge asterisk on Teru's 9th basho as far as I'm concerned. Losing to the 4-11 guy is not yokozuna sumo.
Prediction: Onokatsu basho, 2024 seems to be the year of the noob
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:19:52 UTC No. 210158
>>210124
You sound like a zoomer fag. Hazing has always been a part of sports until the last 10 years. Little shits need to learn their place.
>>210130
How can you judge hakuhos production after being stripped of his beya after only a few years? The japs hate hakuho because he is a mongol and punished him way too hard because of it. Gay ass onosucko is hazing all the little shits in his beya and hasn’t even gotten a slap on the wrist.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 02:46:22 UTC No. 210161
>>210158
>Little shits need to learn their place.
They did. Their place is in the stable, and Hokuseiho's is going to be in a Family Mart because he's a fucking moron.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 03:00:42 UTC No. 210162
>>210158
Hakuho broke the cardinal rule of being a shisho, which is not staying in your own house. They're called "heya" for a reason. How it's supposed to go is it's supposed to be the shisho's actual home, and he hosts the wrestlers, junior okayata, and other personnel within them. Therefore, someone like Onosato gets leniency because it's assumed that the shisho has proper supervision over his own home and knows firsthand whether Onosato's actions are appropriate or not; any disciplinary actions are therefore only for the sake of saving face among the sumo-ignorant public. Hakuho did not live in his own home and had no supervision over it, therefore the actions of Hokuseiho were considered to be the result of Hakuho's lack of supervision resulting in his own home devolving into anarchy.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 09:18:16 UTC No. 210176
>>210162
but r/sumo told me it was just because the japanese are vicious anti-mongol racists?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:33:44 UTC No. 210178
>>210130
>Conversely, there are and always have been many stables run by comparatively mediocre rikishi that have nonetheless churned out star after star.
The Miyagino that coached Hakuho was a perma Juryo shitter with only 2 basho as a maegashitter
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 10:35:14 UTC No. 210179
>>210158
Hakuho should have learned before to NOT rock the boat and act like hot shit just because you were a good wrestler. Should have learned from Kisenosato.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 11:53:36 UTC No. 210182
>>210179
Hakuho always had an attitude problem. Remember when he tried to call a mono-ii on his own bout?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:23:40 UTC No. 210188
>>210161
>>210162
>>210179
The japs are ungrateful. Baluchi saved sumo during all the match fixing scandals and this is how they repay him.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:19:10 UTC No. 210195
>>210188
>Hakuho
That’s what I get for being a phone poster
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:08:14 UTC No. 210214
Terutsuyoshi made his MMA debut.
https://youtu.be/mDQsOFUJF04?si=ii_
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:18:14 UTC No. 210217
>>210214
Kudos to him for actually winning but what the fuck kind of production is this? Why are there Jedi monks spectating?
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:20:06 UTC No. 210222
>>210214
This is a Mortal Kombat stage
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:21:34 UTC No. 210223
>>210214
I see all the sumo training prepared him to tank all the shots to the head
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:55:16 UTC No. 210224
>>210194
>always
>but for a few years the JSA wanked him off because they hated Asashoryu more
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:58:02 UTC No. 210225
>>210194
I wonder if his run as sole yokozuna shitting on everyone caused him to huff his own farts, and his injury in 2015 reminded him he was mortal, that there were serious contenders coming for him including the other two yokozuna at the time, and that he needed to last 5 more years to make it to the Olympics (which ended up being longer).
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 19:16:31 UTC No. 210230
>>210178
Kise is run by an M1 and they have as many salarymen as anyone
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:01:46 UTC No. 210233
>>210230
>salarymen
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:16:26 UTC No. 210235
>>210230
M1 is pretty "high". The previous Miyagino was a M14 ONCE and then perma Juryo shitter.
And example of a Juryo shitter that can't train is Oho's oyakata who is an J4
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 22:23:39 UTC No. 210245
Nabatame vs Chiyomaru tonight
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:29:17 UTC No. 210248
>>210214
TEST YOUR MIGHT
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:30:13 UTC No. 210249
Make the thread hoes
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 23:49:24 UTC No. 210252
alright see y'all in the /sp/ thread
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:15:01 UTC No. 210253
My kachi clash picks
Kotozakura
Onosato
Kotoshoho
Wakatakakage
Onokatsu
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:53:57 UTC No. 210255
>>210253
>Kotozakura
reportedly suffering from a number of injuries
>Kotoshoho
2-13 last time he was in the joi
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:05:25 UTC No. 210256
>>210253
Onosucko going to go 1-14 and get demoted straight to jonidan and be forced to clean toilets.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 01:36:01 UTC No. 210258
Aki basho officially underway
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Anonymous at Sun, 8 Sep 2024 21:56:23 UTC No. 210415
>>210194
are there any sumo wrestlers worth talking about right now? i havent payed a lot of attention since these guys were doing their thing
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 09:52:07 UTC No. 210458
>>210415
Some people may not like it, but the answer to this question is undoubtedly Onosato. His trajectory is fantastic, and unlike fellow rising stars Hakuoho and Takerufuji, he's actually increasing his rank rather than getting injured and falling back to Juryo - so far, anyway. Personally, I think Ozeki is a certainty, possibly before the year is out, and I think it's highly likely that he'll be the Yokozuna to beat well into the 2030s.
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Sep 2024 22:52:08 UTC No. 210513
>>210458
>trajectory
Nobody is rising faster than Aonishiki. Onosato's 9-6 last time out suggests that he might have finally hit a level where the competition is on his level, but it was probably just too much post yusho distractions interfering with his training.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 17:01:02 UTC No. 210578
>>210513
Aonishiki has thus far only faced low-rankers - while he's certainly one to watch it's far too early to speculate on his potential in the top division.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 17:23:33 UTC No. 210583
>>210415
>are there any sumo wrestlers worth talking about right now?
Takerufuji. Oonosato is the big topic right now because he hasn't gotten injured yet, but Takerufuji exhibits a calm in his sumo which is almost clinical and which allows him to beat anyone. Any time Oonosato gets into trouble, he seems to panic. Of the two, I would expect Takeru to have the longer (and superior) tenure at a high rank.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 16:43:18 UTC No. 210823
Japanese question: if you are displaying two banzuke on the wall next to each other, what order do you put them in? Does oldest to newest go from left to right, or from right to left?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 19:17:52 UTC No. 210839
>>210823
East slightly outranks West, and East is printed on the right side of the banzuke - therefore the older banzuke should be to the right of the newer one, befitting its seniority.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:12:03 UTC No. 211128
>>209020
So you want Maegashitters to be even less mobile and injury prone than they already are?
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 16:30:08 UTC No. 211136
>>211128
I want the biggest, strongest men in the world to smash into each other at full force for my entertainment. I don't care about safety or aesthetics or fitness.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 16:38:23 UTC No. 211139
I haven't seen raise the dohyo posting in a while