🧵 /BJJ/ - Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu General
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 02:48:26 UTC No. 217082
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu General: you know why you're here edition
>Daily deals
https://www.bjjhq.com
>Instructionals
https://www.bilibili.com
>Smoothcomp
https://smoothcomp.com (not sure why we post this)
>Belt Checker
https://www.beltchecker.com (dead)
>Thread question
stripes are pretty dumb and should be done away with, right?
Previous thread: >>211050
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:59:09 UTC No. 217087
FEET
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 18:24:38 UTC No. 217115
>>216947
I feel like women can tell when you're acting weird
I for one have a restrained style in general, and I have to go out of my way to explain that I would prefer to choke a woman out than joint lock her
But that's just because I prefer chokes over joint locks
Don't be a fucking weirdo because it makes women seek out other gyms or some shit
And you're a fucking dick if you make someone leave your gym, because you've turned off someone to you as a training partner, and you've fucked with your gym's revenue stream
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 18:33:47 UTC No. 217116
>>216947 #
>cant help but face her arm pits or chest
sniff as loudly as possible
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 18:36:46 UTC No. 217117
Amazing how many of you can't tell she's into it. Including the moron that posted.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 18:44:01 UTC No. 217118
>>217117
japanese pussy folded 10000000000000 times
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 22:32:43 UTC No. 217126
>>217115
I am rolling with her again and she doesn't have any problems. I don't change my style while rolling with people because I have only one style.
>>217117
Well, I hope your right.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 00:32:15 UTC No. 217136
>>217133
You are putting yourself at a disadvantage because of the wizard sleeves and relaxed fit
The jiujitsu gi is designed to skirt the rules as much as possible so there's less material to grab on to
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 00:33:05 UTC No. 217137
>>217133
IBJJF no. Others probably technically no, but they tend to be less particular. If for no other reason than the refs are getting paid with pizza. Schools case by case. Probably not for your first few weeks/month.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 01:26:38 UTC No. 217144
>>217136
the virgin metagaming skinnygi versus The Chad Relaxed Nagewaza Wizard
>>217137
What's the point of hybrid gis like the one linked below? Is it simply an over-built BJJ-legal gi that holds up better to extensive throwing?
https://hyperfly.com/products/judof
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 02:09:59 UTC No. 217149
>>217144
who the hell even knows, only sponsored people and beginners have expensive gis
everyone else just buys amazonium and whatever they can find on sale
and I certainly don't care about the "legality" of some brazilian faggots telling people what the correct dimension of their 18th century japanese garment is supposed to be
it's not even a real sport
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 20:57:30 UTC No. 217200
>>217180
A guy at my gym does something similar, he's somehow flexible and long-legged enough to thread his feet inside your armpits when you're in mount and lift/pull you back. It's very effective and lowkey infuriating as fuck, especially because it immediately gives him a very easy straight ankle lock
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 20:59:53 UTC No. 217201
>>217181
Jesus, that's fucking nasty. That guy will be doing a Keaton Batman impression for the next month
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 22:30:31 UTC No. 217206
>>217181
That is a amazing slam
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 23:30:04 UTC No. 217209
>>217181
If there is adult judo gyms there should be greco gyms for adults.
Or just wrestling gyms.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 05:50:32 UTC No. 217224
>>217180
We did something similar in class once except grabbed the lapel and passed it over and stomped into the pocket
It was dumb and didn't feel like it worked then, I've tried it since and it still never worked
And even if it did I can't imagine it's ever going to be the path of least resistance
If you can't elbow escape how you gonna leg press them off you
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 18:54:17 UTC No. 217297
Is lifting 3 times a week and doing bjj 1 times a week managable without over training?
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 19:57:24 UTC No. 217306
>>217297
in the days before the coof I was doing a hardcore brosplit bodybuilding routine, high volume 90 minute sessions 5x a week + porrada jiujitsu training 4x a week
on top of that my job was teaching group fitness classes, cardio kick, MMA so I was in the gym 11 hours a day easily
never felt better than when I was doing that, wasn't even using caffeine either. It's like the workouts would restore my energy. If it was the morning and I had a long stretch of classes ahead of me to run I'd sometimes go to one of those womens aerobics classes with the stair steppers and the little dumbells before I started for the day and that would pump me up and I'd be cruising until lunch time
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:23:07 UTC No. 217307
>>217297
Most people aren't fit enough to over train
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 21:19:31 UTC No. 217310
>>217307
you can still over train if you are unfit retard
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 21:42:07 UTC No. 217312
Went back to bjj after a year of not training. What pisses me of is one guy just does ankle picks, leg locks, ankle locks, whatever shit like that, hate that shit.
>>217133
Never mind the gi. I want to learn that throw.
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 21:51:24 UTC No. 217313
>>217297
Yeah. I try to lift and train three times a week each and it's no problem. Though age plays a role, if you're an elderly gentleman over 40 you might find recovery harder. Anyway, try it and you'll see for yourself. Overtraining is only really a thing for pro athletes, you're almost certainly not training with that kind of intensity
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 21:59:16 UTC No. 217315
>>217310
Overtraining is a condition. Being tired isn't, trainlet.
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 22:59:16 UTC No. 217317
>>217312
>I want to learn that throw.
Koshi-guruma, the high-altitude judo version of folkstyle wrestling's headlock takedown. It's one of my favorites.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 05:58:19 UTC No. 217333
>be in class all the time because nolife
>teacher does the same lesson for a week
>doing it for like the 4th time
>I further the sequence beyond what hes showing because I already known the move as he showed it
>transition it into a choke and a back take
>He's watching me do it
>Asian girl in class
>be her partner
>do the moves
>show her "I've also been finishing it like this and getting on the back from here"
>then for the first time all week he adds another part and shows the choke and back attack I had been doing as part of the lesson
>Asian girl goes oh so that's what you were trying to do
>trying to do? nigga he got the move from me!
Cucked once again
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:34:01 UTC No. 217436
anybody from the other thread a few weeks ago remember old bill who started at age 75 and said his goal was to get a blue belt before he dies?
well he's dying, gonna happen any day now. They gave him a black belt
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:13:30 UTC No. 217446
>>217436
thats a nice gesture
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:24:23 UTC No. 217458
>>217453
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 11:44:32 UTC No. 217508
>>217496
Kek
Good thing that the ref was a good sport about it
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:02:21 UTC No. 217510
>>217496
if you tap the ref don't you automatically win?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:39:02 UTC No. 217525
>reasonable success in competition at white belt
>get blue belt, been choked out in under 2 mins in both tournaments i've done so far
competing again in few weeks and not confident I will perform. Dropped a weight class so hoping that will help out. still feels fucking bad
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:35:43 UTC No. 217527
>>217525
>have student belt
>get schooled
>be sad
why?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:37:05 UTC No. 217528
>>217525
the important thing to remember about jiujitsu competitions is; the rules are gay and arbitrary
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:34:15 UTC No. 217544
>>217525
at white, winning usually comes down to athleticism
you're most likely fighting dudes with 1-2 years of grappling experience at most, if they're not sandbagging hard
at blue, you have people like you that just got their belt, and you're mixed in with dudes that are at the end of their blue, nearing purple, meaning they couldve been grappling anywhere from 4-6 years total
just give it some time
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:31:40 UTC No. 217598
>>217592
BJJ?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 01:34:06 UTC No. 217601
>>217592
Guarantee you look worse with no family while being worse at BJJ.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 02:59:55 UTC No. 217606
>>217605
Explain further
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 11:39:44 UTC No. 217623
Got my black belt in BJJ yesterday. It doesn't get easier bros but remember why you love training and keep going.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 13:42:21 UTC No. 217627
>>217623
congratulations anon
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 14:00:09 UTC No. 217629
>>217623
Congrats dude
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 18:14:08 UTC No. 217639
>>217623
Congratulations.
What advice would you give to a white belt that isn't "just keep going to class" ?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 22:39:59 UTC No. 217657
>>217627
Thank you
>>217629
Thank you
>>217639
Try very hard not to have both shoulders on the mat and use both hands to stop someone grabbing your head.
You are strongest in the direction you're looking, so when you try to sweep you should look in the direction you want to go and let your body catch up to your head.
The details of a submission setup are more important than the final movement of the submission, so focus on the stuff that comes first and the cool stuff will happen way more easily.
Take your training seriously but don't take yourself seriously or you'll get sick of it and burn yourself out.
Don't ask "what if" questions to someone when they show you a technique. There are so many variables and linked techniques that it can be better to discover your own ways to connect positions, and that "what if...?" Question might lead your brain off in the wrong direction.
In the same vein, try to absorb a technique even if you think you won't use it. The details might help you beat others who use it.
There are exceptions to a large number of "rules", but it's easier to learn the rule and make an exception later than try to learn each rule with its exceptions at the same time.
Always remember why you started :)
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 00:00:06 UTC No. 217666
>>217657
First sentence is two seperate pieces of advice sorry
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 00:32:36 UTC No. 217670
>>217666
kek
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 01:42:41 UTC No. 217673
>>217639
lemme give it to you straight, jiujitsu isn't real and the quicker you realize it the faster you'll git gud
the reason you get ethereal non-answers when you ask questions is because nobody can even define jiujitsu as an art let alone tell you how to do it
so throw what you think it is out the window and accept this as your definition, jiujitsu is the goal of immobilizing another persons body as it leads to strangulation and breaking
this is done by following a set of principles and strategies
broadly the road map is, attacking the periphery (arms legs head) in order to gain control and immobilize the center mass (chest, back, hips), and re-attack the periphery with submissions
immutable principles include controlling the inside position. inside position is a spectrum, its not yes or no. If you're controlling more inside position than your partner then you're winning
strategically this includes occupying the space between his armpit and hip and not allowing him to occupy the space in yours
there are no submissions that can be applied in a controlled manner without immobilizing the center mass, generally with connection to the hip in some way
if your butt is directly under your head you can't be swept and must be tilted off that center line
if your bottom leg is not pinned you can stand up any time you want to
there is no method of control on a 2 dimensional plane
when you keep these things in mind and roll with the intention of meeting these conditions you're unbeatable technically
then it becomes a game of athleticism and who can meet these conditions first
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 08:08:38 UTC No. 217689
>>217673
>Jiujitsu isn't real
>Describes some of the most important jiu jitsu principles to use in order to beat your opponent
So... Is it real or not? A coach will tell you all of that info. It just doesn't make sense to read it as someone who has never grappled and is only relevant once you have some idea what you're doing so that's why you always get airy fairy shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:11:00 UTC No. 217708
>>217689
it's not real, I can define judo, I can define styles of karate and kung fu, I can define greco, freestyle, scholastic wrestling
jiujitsu cant be defined like that and the answer you'll get as to why is "it's different things to different people" oh wow thank you professor I understand now! except no, thats just an admission it doesn't exist
proven further by the fact that on an individual basis everyone is expected to have a distinct "game" you are meant to cultivate on your own by trying different things out
the mere fact that you can be a person that chooses to go for take downs and pin people or a person that chooses to sit on the floor with their legs in the air and everyone is supposed to say "yeah that's just a personal preference"
nigga that isn't even the same art form
so jiujitsu doesn't exist. The best you can hope for is to declare what the goal of jiujitsu is, and that's to get submissions and the principles are how you accomplish that
everything else is just noise
and it takes half a lifetime to get a black belt in this garbage because generally they DONT teach principles, they teach moves in isolation and independently of each other which you're supposed to just copy and repeat and fill in the blanks between them on your own
exactly the opposite of how it should be done
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:17:53 UTC No. 217709
>>217689
>Jiujitsu isn't real
it really isnt
it's an amalgamation of stolen arts
>the ground work from jujutsu and judo
>the wrestling stance and holds from wrestling
>the arm bars from judo
>the take downs from jujutsu and judo
judo is an isolation of JJJ but BJJ is pure stolen arts
it's not an original martial art
many people think it is because it's as popular as karate was post vietnam.
Most BJJ school dont exist to spread bjj they exist to sell you a product and they'll tell you any amount of bullshit to make you pay $365 for a gi
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:18:53 UTC No. 217710
>>217709
>the take downs from jujutsu and judo
and wrestling
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:21:59 UTC No. 217711
>>217708
>and it takes half a lifetime to get a black belt in this garbage because generally they DONT teach principles, they teach moves in isolation and independently of each other which you're supposed to just copy and repeat and fill in the blanks between them on your own
>ranking in judo
>knowledge of judo
>time
>skill
>ranking in bjj
>time
>skill
you could teach someone like 5 different arm bars and they can make it ti a high rank not know each name of the arm bar
just calling it an arm bar they can have trouble explaining what situation to use it in and why and they'd still rank
the polar opposite is required in judo because the unspoken assumption that you will eventually teach judo is a thing
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:26:51 UTC No. 217712
>>217711
You could literally merge BJJ with judo and it wouldnt be much different of a martial art
it would just have a heavier focus in ground work than what judo currently has.
It's not in anyway shape or form an original martial art
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:41:23 UTC No. 217714
>>217709
bjj is so focused on selling you a product they wont even teach you certain things to fuel the bjj economy.
There are $150 instructionals of fucking double legs of all things
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:07:12 UTC No. 217723
>>217719
not for nothing but that guy and his clique are part of the same BJJ grift working with fanatics
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 21:24:30 UTC No. 217731
>>217709
Oh it's this faggot again
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 22:59:32 UTC No. 217742
>>217708
>>217709
>Waah waah you can't define it and it's an amalgamation of other martial arts
Yes you knob heads, how do either of those things make it "not real"? Your obsession with a definition of something is simply argumentative and obtuse, and nothing more.
How does the difference between going for a takedown or pulling guard make it non-existent?
It seems like there aren't enough rules for you. You personally need a very clear black and white idea of what you have to do in order to participate.
It's actually very easy to define BJJ with the term "submission grappling". Your goal is to make your opponent give up, and you can do almost anything outside of striking them to achieve that goal. Use your body to hurt your opponents body. That's it. That's why there is no easy way to teach it, and why it takes so long.
The fact that it borrows from ideas presented by other grappling martial arts is undeniably a positive thing. It is dynamic enough to evolve when a new idea is presented that work.
Do you want it to be super purist and still clinging on to old shit that is proven to be useless? Or to invent new rules, like judo did with grabbing the legs, that prevent certain techniques?
It takes a long time to get a black belt because it's fucking difficult. Sorry your mummy couldn't just pay the Karate coach $200 for your belt.
They DO teach principles. Every single good coach will teach you principles of grappling. If not, you have gone to a shit gym and are a poor decision maker.
>>217711
This is the difference between a martial arts that exists in a bubble, and a martial art that exists to test itself in the real world.
If you know 5 jiu jitsu techniques and can use them to win every competition in the world, why shouldn't you have a black belt? You are beating other black belts.
At this point it sounds like you are a judo player who got submitted over and over at a BJJ gym.
>"Why isn't it over after I take him down!? Wtf!!!!!!!!"
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 03:49:07 UTC No. 217756
>>217742
we got ourselves a jabroni over here
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 07:21:54 UTC No. 217763
>>217742
>Every single good coach will teach you principles of grappling. If not, you have gone to a shit gym and are a poor decision maker.
>If you know 5 jiu jitsu techniques and can use them to win every competition in the world, why shouldn't you have a black belt?
Because many of the guys who only know 5 jiujitsu techniques and win every competition are bad coaches who can't teach principles.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 07:34:53 UTC No. 217764
>>217763
If you want to be successful at jiujitsu all you need is to do is follow this fool proof method
be 6'2" or more and do all the anabolic steroids you can afford
You'll get a black belt in 5 years guaranteed, it's not that hard bro
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:47:35 UTC No. 217797
>>217115
One time I refused to roll with a female white belt. I was out of BJJ for a while and as a Christian I realized I should politely reject women as training partners because I don't like to touch women's bodies during a heated session. She insisted I do anyway. The instructor told me to do it anyway.
She ended up "accidentally" scratching the inside of my mouth with her long painted female nails.
>>217453
Easy solution. Just push her face away, and at the same time, reach your hand to break her leg lock. She drops down and you submit her on the ground. Alternatively gently slam her down on her back and make her break her full guard.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:49:51 UTC No. 217798
>>217592
That's not even his family. That's just a girl he has a marital contract with. He pays her money and lets her sleep in his mansion, while she raises his kids.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 18:26:37 UTC No. 217903
think i caught feelings for a new white belt girl
how do i rnc myself to death?
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 18:45:29 UTC No. 217906
>>217903
2 realities to confront
1, only the top dog at the gym gets the girls
2, she's going to be gone by the summer anyway because white belt
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:28:46 UTC No. 217924
Quarterly evals tomorrow, wish me luck bros
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Dec 2024 02:16:10 UTC No. 217928
CJI2 will be Quintet style team matchups
https://x.com/lockinjiujitsu/status
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Dec 2024 16:46:52 UTC No. 217987
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Dec 2024 17:36:22 UTC No. 217994
>>217924
>quaterly eval
>bjj
sounds like a shit test for whether or not you keep your rank
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 07:23:50 UTC No. 218043
>>217082
long ass rant but whatever
>bf starts giving no gi classes
>purple belt but he's a huge bjj autist, loves to learn, loves to teach
>has at least 12 permanent students, they even stay 30 minutes after bf's class just rolling
>bf's class is chill but useful, if you're late you just warm up and start, you can talk with anyone as long as you don't fuck around
>people enjoy his class, dump the og class because it's boring
>og teacher gets a bit pissy
>throws some shitty comments here and there
>treats some bf's students like crap
>everything starts to get tense between them
>fast forward to today
>open mat
>og teacher gives an announcement
>every class will have to follow these rules from now on
>no talking in class
>if you're late you have to make 30 burpees as a punishment
>if you want to compete you have to train for two full weeks, every day, before the tournament, if you don't do it you won't be allowed to compete
>you have to prioritize going to bjj class over anything else (some people come late to class because they also do judo)
>bf is pissed
>all his class is pissed
>he doesn't want to do it
>tries talking to og teacher
>"white learns from blue learns from purple learns from brown learns from black, this is my gym and i know what's best, you've been a teacher for just a year"
>og teacher is too retarded to change his mind
>bf so overwhelmed he's considering leaving teaching and training altogether
he'll probably gonna go to another gym but damn, what is it with black belts and their ego?
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 07:40:03 UTC No. 218044
>>218043
He should call the teacher a homophobe
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 15:43:26 UTC No. 218054
>>218053
yeah after the open mat and the announcement he got a lot of messages from people saying 'let me know when and where are you going to cause I'll go with you'
i asked him how was the deal to open his own gym and he's not that into it at least for now, he just wants to find another place to roll and maybe keep giving classes, he's mostly angry at the whole situation because og teacher wasn't like this before, he just got retarded when a famous bjj dude from here came to visit a couple months ago
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 15:59:46 UTC No. 218058
>>218043
A girl in my Asian foot fetish chat room?
https://youtu.be/pdb9QtYePlo?si=j4p
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 16:24:24 UTC No. 218060
>>218058
too autist to have irl frens, not pretty enough that people don't care about it, sorry to invade anon
also yeah, the main problem is that the gym is owned by just one dude, so everyone has to listen to him
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 18:10:26 UTC No. 218069
>>218060
Guy sounds like a fag, and if he tried to tell me as a grown man I need to be "punished" for showing up late to my hobby which I'm paying for. After I got up off the floor from laughing so hard I'd cancel my membership on the spot, charge back the most recent payment he collected, and might even be petty enough to start subletting space in a karate school or some shit to run my own jiujitsu classes just to fuck with his bottom line
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 18:13:10 UTC No. 218071
>>218070
He's such a dork
Like it's incredible he's a giant strong muscle man with excellent ability and yet every time he opens his mouth I have an uncontrollable urge to shove him into a locker
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 18:31:10 UTC No. 218072
>>218069
something like this happened
>one of bf's students is a guy that has been practicing judo for over 6 years
>bf always mentions how much this guy has helped him when it comes to grips and takedowns
>a tournament is announced, everyone in bf's class wants to compete
>they pay the inscription fee and everything
>og teacher shows up to some bf's classes and mentions the tournament
>"if anyone wants to come to my class we can do some extra practice for the tournament"
>judo guy goes to some og teacher classes, not all because he also does judo
>og teacher confronts him about it, he said it was joking but judo guy ended up pissed and dropped the tournament
>"you should skip judo and come here"
>"you're not training to compete in judo are you? you're training for a bjj tournament"
>"it's okay if you skip judo it's just for a couple weeks"
judo guy also stopped going to bf's classes after that, bf had to actually apologize in the name of og teacher
i sincerely hope og teacher loses all of his students
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:48:34 UTC No. 218081
>>217209
THere's one gym near me that does wrestling classes for adults and it's not popular at all
>>217306
only works before you're 30
>>217297
depends on your age and health
>>217325
that was smooth af i like ezekiel from there like that
>>217453
I would just calmly walk out of bounds and force a standing reset, actually, demand a standing reset
>>217497
He's supposed to dive his thigh into the back and chase from there
>>217623
grats
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:27:38 UTC No. 218085
Just posting this cringe shit everyone has already seen because I like it
https://youtu.be/_Wo80ysvUZg?si=gXN
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 22:44:31 UTC No. 218098
>>218072
Guy sounds like a cunt. Name and shame, so we know who not to give our money to
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 00:43:39 UTC No. 218108
>>218043
>you have to prioritize going to bjj class over anything else (some people come late to class because they also do judo)
>most bij people: "bjj isnt a cult"
>literally every other school: if you life doesnt revolve around me or my school then you cant do bjj
why do you guys tolerate this shit kek.
I think what's even more funny is that you tout bjj as the intellectuals martial art yet the majority of the population that practices if cant see that some of it's cultish
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 00:52:29 UTC No. 218109
>>218072
>i sincerely hope og teacher loses all of his students
ive sene this before in bjj
he's not. he's likely got students all over the place talking about how great he is. I went to a BJJ school where the professor would threaten to rape and beat his students on a regular basis over minor things.
Nothing is gonna happen he's gonna keep getting new students even casual students
welcome to bjj
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 01:03:16 UTC No. 218111
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 01:16:05 UTC No. 218114
>>218108
people who believe they have a high iq tend to fall for cults the most of all because they think they'll be able to see through one
people that are kinda dumb always have people trying to take advantage of them so they can see through it
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 04:15:32 UTC No. 218127
Don't screen shot and post us on read-it you fat spic
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 04:25:05 UTC No. 218129
>>218127
??
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:04:49 UTC No. 218141
>>218109
>rape threats
that guy was a faggot using bjj to grope as many guys as possible
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:24:39 UTC No. 218142
>>218108
i blame the tryhards who think martial arts are serious, it's just a fucking sport
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:29:02 UTC No. 218143
u rack disciprine
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:44:44 UTC No. 218152
>>217082
Just did my first ibjjf comp
>won one match by points, almost had an armbar but the timer ran out
>lost one match by submission
>lost another by points when I got taken down in the beginning but managed to recover and get back up but the fight stalled
How's my record for a first comp? I've been training for a year and half but never competed due to time constraints and work responsibilities
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 19:02:13 UTC No. 218158
>>218129
someone screen shotted a post ITT and posted it on the cuck plebbit website
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 19:04:42 UTC No. 218159
>>218152
pretty good my first and only ibjjf I lost 2-0 from a sweep
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 19:05:11 UTC No. 218160
>>218158
for what purpose?
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 19:31:36 UTC No. 218164
I say competitions are a scam and dumb
>I want to test myself
can you already beat everybody in your gym? if the answer is no then what is there to test exactly?
your test is every time you roll in the gym if you're doing better or not
only once you're the top dog in your gym like me is it appropriate to venture out and start looking for challenges
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:38:49 UTC No. 218172
>>218161
What belt are you? How many times have you competed since?
Have you identified holes in your game?
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:36:42 UTC No. 218174
>>218158
link?
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:46:09 UTC No. 218175
>>218164
The detail you need to understand to beat that guy you're struggling with at your gym might be something that's taught more clearly at another gym. Competitions are a decent way to learn from other schools' grapplers but you could achieve that by traveling and training at that school for a day or two yourself.
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:00:42 UTC No. 218176
>>218172
>What belt are you?
blue
>How many times have you competed since?
i think i competed about three times at white and twice at blue
>Have you identified holes in your game?
yes competing has made them glaringly obvious but most of it is just nerves and being completely clueless when it comes to preparing for a competition mentally and physically
i compete in -82 kg in the gi and -79 kg in no gi
i hover around 80 and 78 kg typically
leading up to a competition ive noticed that i always lose weight and go down to like 75 kg
i also cant sleep for weeks leading up to the event so ive decided competing is not for me
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:44:20 UTC No. 218178
>>218174
https://old.reddit.com/r/bjj/commen
He just screenshotted this thread and used it for content.
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 01:20:35 UTC No. 218180
>>218069
So you'd quietly cancel your membership
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 01:28:16 UTC No. 218182
>>218180
honestly the best solution.
Local bjj gyms talk, last thing you want is to be watched closely when you go to a different one or be heavily scrutinized
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 01:30:35 UTC No. 218183
>>218180
I'd mog him in front of everybody
Whats he gonna do, beat me up?
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 03:00:32 UTC No. 218191
>>218182
i'm gonna do exactly that, it's a shame since before og teacher went full retard he actually tried to teach something.
we disagreed with some of his choices, like he preferring attendance during a set period of time over actual progress and skill to give promotions, but it wasn't so bad overall, we had a nice group
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 07:00:16 UTC No. 218198
>>218176
My friend you need to manage your stress levels. You should compete more. I know people still in white belt and have competed in the double digits
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:30:39 UTC No. 218208
How to cope with being below 70 kg as an adult male. I don't want to start bodybuilding, should i just accept my fate?
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:55:22 UTC No. 218209
>>218208
Don't roll with fatasses
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:59:45 UTC No. 218210
>>218209
im 68kg what counts as a fatass?
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 12:57:18 UTC No. 218213
>>218209
NTA, but same-ish weight
It's not just fatasses, in my gym the average person has like 20kg on me, it's really fucking hard sometimes
But I try to look at it positively, if I can survive a round with a >90kg slab of beef without getting submitted, even if I'm on the defensive the whole round, that's still a valuable skill
>>218208
If you can spare the time, start lifting. It sure as fuck won't hurt you to be stronger and heavier
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 12:58:11 UTC No. 218214
>>218212
no joking i have the same british cat
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 18:19:52 UTC No. 218252
>>218183
Canceling your membership isn't mogging anyone. You quit and now have to find a more inconveniently located gym. Don't talk tough lmao when you're clearly a pussy. If you were a tough guy youd challenge him to MMA rules for fun
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 18:23:47 UTC No. 218253
>>218213
>It's a valuable skill
No, it will instill false confidence in you. That 90kg lump of muscle isn't going to play nicely in your guard. you're gonna eat headbutts and GNP so quickly you will be pissing and shitting your panties
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 19:50:56 UTC No. 218254
>>218208
start bodybuilding
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:17:37 UTC No. 218258
Ex-scholastic wrestler here. I know BJJ has this cult mentality in their schools, but what about Judo and Sombo?
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:31:55 UTC No. 218261
>>218258
Judo is very welcoming and will try hard to keep you at their school without being cultish.
It's best to look up on the national directories(USJA, USJF, USA Judo)if in the US to see if the school is legit.
Judo has a completely different culture from bjj and is based off of two street-type of respect and kindness/professionalism. You arent forced to spar people like you are in BJJ and it's not like bjj where the head instructor seems cool at first but after a few weeks of being there he shows his true colors since he thinks you arent gonna leave
similar to >>218252 situation
Judo is less about money and more about learning Judo and it's various teachings aside from the martial art and spreading judo whereas what BJJ is about is completely varying depending on the school.
Some places are about spreading bjj
some places are abouy making you pay $365 for a gi you can buy on fuji for $140
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:32:56 UTC No. 218262
>>218261
>two street
two way street*
as in when you go in
they'll be respectful to you first before you even begin speaking
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:35:31 UTC No. 218263
>>218262
Judo is heavily gatekept.
in ordet to even compete you need to be registered in one of the national registries and the intructors that can rank have to pay various fees to even hold a license to have a school, give rank and pay for a membership to rank.
None of that exists in bjj whatsoever
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:42:45 UTC No. 218264
>>218252
retards talk with their fists, intellectuals like myself talk with our jewish lawyers and connections in the police department
I'd embarrass him verbally in front of everybody in the room and if he laid a hand on me I take his business from him
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:46:31 UTC No. 218265
>>218264
If there are no cameras and most people like that instructor they'll just lie and say you attacked him dumbass
most schools dont have cameras
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:47:07 UTC No. 218266
>>218263
BJJ is gatekept in exactly the same way with the IBJJF
it's even more predatory with them though
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:48:15 UTC No. 218267
>>218266
Most competitions arent hosted by the ibjjf stop kidding yourself
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 20:50:24 UTC No. 218268
>>218267
mostly submission grappling, not BJJ
people conflate the two but bjj isn't actually all that popular, NAGA, ADCC, goodfight, these are not bjj competitions
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 22:33:32 UTC No. 218272
>>218261
Half of your shit is applicable to judo experiences
It's literally down to the gym and the culture of the gym
Also
>Being forced to spar
What the fuck is the fun of doing the sport if you don't get to do it
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 23:17:33 UTC No. 218273
>>218272
>Being forced to spar
>i wanna take a break, im tired
>professor: "Roll with him"
>"I think im gonna get hurt if I dont take a break"
>professor: You either roll or go home
>have to go home half way through class because your """"professor""" who urges you to come to class even when your tired or not feeling it told you to
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 23:21:49 UTC No. 218274
>>218264
As I said before youre a pussy. He'd just laugh and tell you to fuck off. I know in your beta little mind you totally owned him but in reality everyone just shrugs as the dyel beta quits his membership after already paying 1000s over the years. Stay mad lol
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 23:23:47 UTC No. 218275
>>218273
Martial arts are there to push the person above their limits and test character if you want le gentle happy hobby go pick flowers with grandma
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 23:49:56 UTC No. 218278
>>218275
>ushiro goshis you
>AHH WTF NO SLAMMING IN BJJ
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 00:41:20 UTC No. 218282
>>218274
I've made more money from martial arts than I've spent on it over the years
I'm at the point where I at least go for free if not get paid to be there
>>218275
that's hooey, martial arts doesn't give you magical anime energy
drink plenty of water, have electrolytes, keep the room a comfortable temperature, rest your muscles, rehab your injuries, wash your fucking belt
anyone that would deny a person these things is a bad instructor living in a fictional world
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 01:44:06 UTC No. 218285
>>218273
Sounds like a gym problem
We're paying clients and we're not forced to do shit by anyone but yourself
But never, and I mean never have I been "so tired I feel like I'm going to hurt myself"
You literally only hurt yourself if
>You're full power trying to hard to win
And
>You have a preexisting energy
If you can't separate your tryhard tendencies from your technique and safety first, then you were going to get injured at some point anyways. Completely independent from "how tired" you are
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 01:45:16 UTC No. 218286
>>218285
>Energy
Meant injury, but my point still stands your reason is bullshit
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 02:19:50 UTC No. 218289
>>218285
it's a brazilian problem more than anything
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sxAo
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 02:39:02 UTC No. 218293
>>218258
Judo is heavily regulated. There's always going to be a few bad apples, but overall, judo governance makes sure there isn't ego trips like BJJ fosters or black belt factories/McDojos. Judo is very no-nonsense and you have to earn your belts and gradings through randori and learning how to break falls as well as execute technique.
Not sure about Sambo, but from emehat I hear, they can be tough but no worse than what wrestlers go through.
>>218289
It really is. Brazilians are a very macho culture and BJJ creates hot heads who start fights and break limbs/choke people out because they can get away with it. The instructors won't punish them, it adds more street cred to their school. And they lack a governing authority like the IJF with judo or FILA with wrestling to expel them from official competition.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 02:45:15 UTC No. 218296
>>218261
Yeah judo is non-profit. They only charge what's necessary to keep schools open. BJJ was always about money; which is why the sport was primarily for the middle and upper classes in Brazil while Luta Livre was the poor man's sport since they couldn't afford the gi.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:02:37 UTC No. 218297
>>218293
ironically brazilians being all macho they're also a global capital for gays and trannies
think about it, brazil is so gay that brazilian is an entire genre of gay porn
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:13:05 UTC No. 218299
>>218296
What even is the big deal about nonprofit
My gym owner preaches kindness and minimal effort outside of competition aspirations
What's cringe is assholes trying to pull that kobra kai shit and feeling entitled to the money you're being asked to pay
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:23:40 UTC No. 218301
>>218299
Kano wanted to spread judo to the world; he truly was a great man. He didn't care to make himself rich but wanted judo as a means to improve people. I don't worship people but I damn well respect Jigoro Kano and what he did.
Yeah I hate asshole instructors but that's why you have to scope out schools.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:33:28 UTC No. 218305
>>218293
>Judo is very no-nonsense and you have to earn your belts and gradings through randori
ranking is very school dependent.
Some schools treat randori like a competition which is where grading through randori comes from if your school does that which is the polar opposite of what's spoken about randori in the Kodokan. Kodokan says that randori is just to get better at judo and learn how to apply technique to real time sparring.
Some schools test per belt, some schools just go through the gokyo every now and then to expand judo knowledge and grade you off that and time in grade since it can take months to clear all 40 throws depending on how many classes you have per week.
Rank in judo is a mixture of the following three:
>Knowledge of judo
>time in grade
>skill in randori
You dont need to be a master at all 3 to rank you could have trash randori and make it to a high rank, but have excellent judo knowledge. it's like if you were to make it to brown sankyu and then quit
that knowledge and time in grade stays but the skill doesnt it would be retarded for a brown sankyu to quit and start over at white because they left for 5 years. You earned that rank, ranks are hard earned whether it's through compeition or the three things I listed and de ranking, like in bjj should be unheard of.
That's why it's important to get your certificate last thing you want is to have mediocre randori, make it to green or brown, move and then get tested for green only to go back to orange because you couldnt execute whatever throws were on that other schools tests.
Documentation is very important when moving schools, it also makes tracking down who taught you easier whereas in bjj you have to ask around or roll with them to see if they're actually legit. A lot of stuff bjj does it very old school.
Some schools wont test you and some schools have their own criteria which just loops back to why documentation is important.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:34:29 UTC No. 218306
>>218305
The governing bodies even have their own cirriculum and criteria if you dont wanna make your own.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:37:04 UTC No. 218307
>>218305
And this is why BJJ will never be in the Olympics, they lack.the quality control and oversight that judo and wrestling have.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 04:49:05 UTC No. 218318
>>218307
Also the sport just doesn't make sense. It promotes negative grappling, rewards stalling and playing it as safe as possible
And the scoring criteria is asinine
Muh hooks! Ah yes, the weakest back control configuration. Let's reward that with the most points
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 05:01:16 UTC No. 218321
merry christmas fags, thanks for being here
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 05:09:48 UTC No. 218327
>>218301
I was more thinking that good schools should be entitled to the wealth they deserve
But cringe ass grooming cults are just predatory businesses and don't deserve the following or money they leech from their fanatics
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 05:23:42 UTC No. 218330
>>218327
I see your point. Schools aren't charities and instructors have to pay bills too. But unless they're training professional fighters, I'm not sure if it justifies BJJ schools charging so much.
Yeah the predatory grooming is bullshit. I used to remember in the 2000s how BJJ was worshiped but nowadays quite a few people realize how full of shit it is. I still think BJJ is a great grappling art, but there's no need to be so damned dogmatic.
>>218318
Speaking as a wrestler, BJJ rules should award more points for a successful takedowns. And take into account of rides that US scholastic/collegiate wrestlers utilize. I get why guardwork and sweeps are given so much emphasis because that's their bread and butter. They fight off their backs because you practice how you train and BJJ prepares how to defend from the worst possible position and nullifies the strengths of the guy on top.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 06:40:20 UTC No. 218333
>>218263
It exists in France. The bjj governing body is actually a subsidiary of the national judo org. They even have a registry of official black belts so you can ignore the mcdojos
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 06:52:11 UTC No. 218334
>>218333
France ruined karate by teaching them kata
France ruined judo by normalizing winning by strategically getting your opponent DQ'd
Now they will ruin jiujitsu too
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:31:00 UTC No. 218339
I really wish BJJ had its shit together the same way Judo does, with a competent governing body and at least somewhat standardized curriculum and ranking. Do you guys think such a thing is even possible at this point?
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 17:49:12 UTC No. 218349
>>218282
Holy Christmas cope lmao!
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 17:51:02 UTC No. 218350
>>218282
>I go for free
>I'd cancel my membership on the spot
Someone is getting so buttflustered they're literally making up bullshit on the spot
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 18:04:29 UTC No. 218351
>>218350
You seem to have lost the plot, I'll let you go back and read the reply chain again
Saying what I would do in that situation is not saying I am the one in that situation
You should tap sooner bro, your brain cells can't take much more abuse
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 20:19:35 UTC No. 218353
>>218339
Nope. The IJF was created when Europe's judo federations came together and its 2nd president was Kano's 2nd son Risei (who also managed the Kodokan). So Judo has a long history of standards and proliferating the art throughout the globe. The IJF is far from perfect and some of its rules are stupid beyond belief (like the tease about leg grabs sorta coming back), but at least they have a governing body.
BJJ is too decentralized. Even amongst the Gracies they clash with federations and each other like the late Carlson Sr. talking about the IBJJF
https://www.bjjee.com/interview/car
Or Rickson's organization
https://www.bjjee.com/articles/divi
Then there's the messy image of pit boys and how BJJ openly tote about how they get into street fights. Even Renzo Gracie writes about how he broke a bouncer's arm (in Portuguese) online and how the US legal system prevents them from stomping a dude's ass like they do in Brazil. There's a difference between being a badass and a low impulse control meathead. And BJJ fosters this mentality (which infiltrates MMA too).
Even in Brazil, BJJ has a very bad reputation which surprised me because of all the street fights, challenge matches, dojo stormings, etc. that Gracies and other Jiu-Jitieros did from the 1950's to 1980's. Judo was seen as a classy and respected martial art and sport. You don't hear about Judoka doing kind of shit on the news like BJJ does. And even if they did, they would get banned and thrown out.
So unless all the BJJ orgs come together, the various personalities quit having egos (too many chiefs not enough Native Americans), and they cull the cult mentality and turning a blind eye to thuggery like Gordon Ryan slapping Andre Galvao. The IBJJF has popularized and expanded BJJ tremendously but they lack teeth in disciplining shitheads.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 20:21:53 UTC No. 218354
>>218351
>I was only pretending!!!
Yeah, I smell new years cope
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 21:23:02 UTC No. 218355
>>218354
Based sub 100 iq poster
Read it again and try to follow the conversation this time
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 21:52:59 UTC No. 218360
Honestly, everyone and their mother has their own BJJ governing body, IJF should just make their own (as Submission Judo™) and become an authority on all Gi grappling. We know them to be a competent enough organization and BJJ is just a slightly tweaked fork of Judo anyway. They'd probably supplant the IBJJF just by the virtue of not being fucking retarded
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 21:54:00 UTC No. 218361
>>218355
>sub
why didnt he tap if he got subbed?
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 22:22:38 UTC No. 218366
>>218360
>Submission Judo™
Some of the judo places near me have been getting into this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosen
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 23:02:52 UTC No. 218368
>>217987
>>217994
My gym does quarterly evaluations, the black belts examine your rolling in different scenarios and give stripes as warranted, never seen demotions.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 23:26:45 UTC No. 218370
>>218360
>Honestly, everyone and their mother has their own BJJ governing body, IJF should just make their own (as Submission Judo™) and become an authority on all Gi grappling.
That would be fucking hilarious. And the recent IJF rules say they're going to allow more time for newaza. I think the powers-that-be realize that they've neglected newaza in favor of spectator-friendly throws and trips. Plus the IJF has a working relationship with FIAS, the governing body for Sambo which doesn't have bad blood or propaganda against judo like BJJ does. Plus there was an interview from years ago that the IJF was pondering over newaza-only tournaments in judo so they definitely see that groundfighting should be explored more.
>BJJ is just a slightly tweaked fork of Judo anyway.
I disagree. I'm far from a BJJ nuthugger but it's a derivative of Judo (and Catch Wrestling). It's basically judo newaza without rewarding as much for tachi-waza (stand-up throws, trips, takedowns) but in much greater depth to set-ups and allowing more submission variance. Definitely stems from it, but it evolved into its own thing like a software fork.
>They'd probably supplant the IBJJF just by the virtue of not being fucking retarded
I can envision the IJF absorbing BJJ orgs in the long-term if they play their cards right. But they'd have to separate the 2 rule sets to not alienate Jiu-Jitieros they've taken in.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 23:41:15 UTC No. 218372
>>218321
Merry Christmas, anon
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 00:11:08 UTC No. 218377
>>218370
>it evolved into its own thing
A worse thing
They've decided that moving through positions (arbitrarily chosen ones) is a better win condition than holding positions
If you pass a guard, then they recover and you pass it again you'll run up the score vs getting nothing if you actually dominantly held it the entire time and they never escaped
How backwards is that shit
That's why the meme of jiujitsu doesn't work of you just stand up is true. Beejers don't know how to pin and control people on the ground
Wrestling and judo do not have this issue where it stops working if the other person doesn't cooperate with it
In jiujitsu people choose to be on the ground because of the gentleman's agreement or some shit
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 00:19:39 UTC No. 218379
>>218377
I agree that BJJ's glaring weakness on the ground is omitting pins, but their positional control and transitions are very dynamic. And you're mistaking the Sport BJJ to the self-defense application which they address in street fighting like having to deal with a dude trying to rain down strikes on you while you're on your back. Old school BJJ schools actually had them train with dealing with ground-and-pound while the defender learns to survive and then exploit an opportunity to choke out or break a limb.
I personally believe if BJJ was more well-rounded with hip tosses, foot sweeps/trips, and other takedowns as well as incorporating pins, rides, and breakdowns, it'd be perfect. But I have a bias since I've wrestled and while I respect the guard because it neutralizes the attacker's superior strength and being on top in favor of leverage and sweeping to flip them over.
No art will be 100% complete because unless you don't need to work and have financial independence as well as nothing but free time, nobody will be perfect in every facet of striking, trapping, grappling, etc. And people have personal biases; some prefer throwing a guy down hard. Others like the intricate posturing that BJJ does. To each their own.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 01:03:53 UTC No. 218384
>>218379
I think BJJ has gone full karate when it comes to fighting and self defense
Thats the choice they made, practicality is the exception not the rule and I won't defend exceptions
It started out with me thinking it's gay and dumb, then I continued to think it was gay and dumb but kinda fun, and now it's not even fun anymore and is even gayer and dumber than I ever thought possible
It's why I'm looking forward to finally being finished with this garbage within this next calendar year and I can quit and never look back while I go do some good old fashioned nogi American jiujitsu just as the founders intended
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 01:50:19 UTC No. 218386
>>218384
The way the US practices BJJ is interesting because of our strong scholastic/collegiate wrestling. It fills in the gaps that BJJ has and I think by the end of this decade, it's going to be the new standard
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 19:31:47 UTC No. 218411
>>218386
In brazil we have luta livre for pure no-gi but it's way less popular than gi BJJ. It's usualy gymbros and MMA fighters that do it. Almost no women and fatsos.