🧵 /BJJ/ - Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu General
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 17:13:42 UTC No. 220879
Wiltse is BACK edition
https://youtu.be/F97y6QDnues?si=NY9
>Daily deals
https://www.bjjhq.com
>Instructionals
https://www.bilibili.com
>Smoothcomp
https://smoothcomp.com (not sure why we post this)
>Belt Checker
https://www.beltchecker.com (dead)
>Thread question
stripes are pretty dumb and should be done away with, right?
Previous thread: >>217082 (Cross-thread)
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 17:43:54 UTC No. 220884
Erm, this isn't a picture of an Asian girl
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 17:44:48 UTC No. 220885
>>220879
>Gay jiu-jitsu general
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 18:45:07 UTC No. 220887
>>220879
>warming up with a hot shower general
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 18:59:14 UTC No. 220888
>>220879
>bjj
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 19:05:22 UTC No. 220889
>>220887
Every time you post this you seem even more retarded
Do you think warm up and cooldown are just random terms we use? The purpose is to literally increase the body temperature causing muscle tissue to relax and become more pliable
You can do this by moving around or just applying heat to your body, that's why you use heat to alleviate muscle stiffness and why on a cold day your body is more tight
This simple concept everyone understands has completely mind broken you, I genuinely hope you neck yourself
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 19:37:16 UTC No. 220890
>>220879
>Wiltse is BACK
back in jail?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 19:48:56 UTC No. 220892
>>220879
oh and to answer the thread question
>stripes are pretty dumb and should be done away with, right?
when i started our gym handed them out, but by the time i hit blue the affiliation decided to stop giving out stripes
it's motivation candy, fine for kids and even adult white belts i think. i remember thinking it was cool as hell to get a stripe. even then, i remember excitedly telling my dad about my first stripe and struggling to explain the significance of a piece of sports tape being attached to my belt. it doesnt really make any sense.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 19:50:23 UTC No. 220893
>>220879
Do you need to do jiu jitsu forever or can you just get to blue belt and quit and remember what you need for self defence
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 19:53:02 UTC No. 220894
>>220889
Seething
Just have a cold shower bro
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:00:13 UTC No. 220897
>>220894
go pay some money and be told to run laps you fucking faggot
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 23:06:33 UTC No. 220903
is wiltse on his meds now?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 02:27:24 UTC No. 220911
>"You have little technique and you are all strength+weight" type comments
>They voluntarily give me positions where I can easily use my weight and strength, while I give them all the chances for top pressure in the beginning of a round
I don't get it. Someone explain this please.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 03:32:15 UTC No. 220915
>>220890
He's free and medicated so I finally got him to talk about the blue belt test. Makes me feel pretty good to know a world champion also felt it was difficult to do. I did the Vaghi test too.
>>220893
I'm trying to figure this out right now.
>>220903
Yepper!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 04:04:37 UTC No. 220917
>>220915
>a world champion
I mean...amateur division
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 04:13:53 UTC No. 220919
How do I do BJJ without turning gay?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 04:15:41 UTC No. 220921
>>220911
they're coping
ignore it, and actually crush them harder next time if you do anything. And if they make another comment you say "try getting better at jiujitsu if you have a problem with it"
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 04:18:55 UTC No. 220922
>>220911
>>220921
>My size gives you an opportunity to work on your technique since you can't compensate for poor form with muscle.
:^)
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 05:16:24 UTC No. 220926
>>220897
Loosen up bro
Did you forget your warm shower today?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 05:41:07 UTC No. 220927
>>220919
if you find out, let me know
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 05:42:56 UTC No. 220928
>>220926
post your hairline
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 05:54:18 UTC No. 220929
I'm reminding you to diligently do you supplementary strength and mobility training
a certified big rig tried to blast through my legs and sent his whole bodyweight sideways into my knee
my daily practices meant my hams and hip adductors had extra runway to stretch and absorb the impact. An average person would've lost their MCL and meniscus, but I was unharmed.
so if you decide not to do these things and get hurt, well I have no sympathy for you. you were warned
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 06:56:45 UTC No. 220935
>>220933
Makes sense
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 07:01:45 UTC No. 220936
>>220928
Early 30s and full head of hair
What about you
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 08:50:33 UTC No. 220937
>>220929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZN
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 10:14:56 UTC No. 220939
>>220929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZN
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 12:53:31 UTC No. 220941
>>220940
The difference has already been explained to you in detail and you're being deliberately obtuse because your ego won't allow you to accept you've wasted a lot of time learning the wrong way
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 14:59:58 UTC No. 220943
Any hot shower warmup advice?
Optimal temperature and duration?
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 15:40:17 UTC No. 220946
>>220943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyn
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 17:04:46 UTC No. 220948
what we have here is a salty judo faggot seething that his sport isn't popular and tried to justify static compliant partner repping and doing cart wheels and crab walks for 20 minutes at the beginning of class instead of actually training
he got so unequivocally btfo in multiple threads this past week so he keeps trying to rehash the topics
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 17:26:09 UTC No. 220949
>>220948
no one mentioned judo
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 17:29:17 UTC No. 220950
>>220949
the fag trolling the thread is a judo supremacy retard
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 17:36:09 UTC No. 220951
You know I have seen him brag about it in other threads
So seeing this just makes sense
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 17:51:33 UTC No. 220952
Can y'all stop being niggertarded and talk about JJ? No one is interested in your warmups or lack thereof
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 18:03:31 UTC No. 220953
so what's everybody working on? i've been focusing on entries to the saddle/411 and just looking for leg attacks everywhere
our gym doesn't do a lot of leg locks but i'd like to learn more than just the straight ankle lock
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 18:12:31 UTC No. 220956
>>220953
I am working on attacking from Turtle, I know it is a amazing position but I have been watching pride.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 18:40:24 UTC No. 220961
>>220953
I'm working on trying to come back from injuries. I trained once this month, gonna try to go in tomorrow.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 18:46:00 UTC No. 220962
>>220893
you should quit at the earliest possible convenience
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 20:18:55 UTC No. 220965
>>220953
not getting run over
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 20:38:07 UTC No. 220966
we don't do leglocks in the gi because the friction makes it too dangerous!
Also
In nogi you're allowed to wear gi pants instead of shorts if you want!
Just admit you're avoiding leglocks because you don't know them and need an excuse to get out of it
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 20:56:59 UTC No. 220967
>>220948
Taking hot showers to warmup is a bjj thing?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 21:22:41 UTC No. 220968
>>220967
not in particular, it's something some people do before any kind of workout though
the qrd is
>dumbass retard trying to argue that doing somersaults, burpees, and suicide sprints is the only adequate way to warm up
>gets explained to him you could just not waste your time and warm up by simply doing the activity itself and ramping up the pace over time
>you can even warm up your body just by taking a shower/sauna/steam room before starting your workout
>completely spergs out like it's the most ridiculous thing he's ever heard
>keeps flippantly posting about showers repeatedly in multiple threads ever since then
>just looks like a colossal retarded faggot
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 03:35:01 UTC No. 220974
>>220968
Wow I guess hundreds of years of sports science and top coaches and athletes have been doing it wrong all this time!
They should have just been having hot showers. Those wrestling style warm ups the top athletes do every day? Waste of time.
Drilling and sparring is a waste of time too. Just meditate and visualise it all bro
Protip, multiple people are laughing at you
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 03:52:47 UTC No. 220975
>>220974
You're just making things up
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 05:23:26 UTC No. 220976
>>220966
No one here is going to argue that point
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 08:48:13 UTC No. 220983
*shits up your youtube feed*
>The MOST Effective Guard System in Jiu Jitsu
>The MOST Important Passing Position in Jiu Jitsu
>This Simple Principle Will INSTANTLY 10x Your Jiu Jitsu
>This NEW Passing System is UNSTOPPABLE
>This Principle CHANGES Everything
>This Detail Will INSTANTLY 10x Your Guard Retention
>Side Control Escape - These Small Details Change Everything
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 12:47:45 UTC No. 220987
>>220983
>titles
That's just Youtube meta these days because of how the algorithm works
>content
Honestly pretty good for the target audience - beginners struggling with guard play
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 13:54:16 UTC No. 220990
>>220879
just realised that dima is a blatant homosexual. That man's living his best life
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:04:42 UTC No. 220991
>>220987
He does meme guards, it's simply bad grappling
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:11:44 UTC No. 220992
>>220991
What is a "meme guard?"
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:42:29 UTC No. 220993
>>220992
Overly reliant on lapel grip, inversions, and an overall far above average level of flexibility
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:57:13 UTC No. 220994
>>220991
>bad grappling
Why? Because it's "not realistic"?
Who gives a fuck? People who try weird meme techniques don't do it because they think it's practical for self-defense or whatever, they do it because exploring new positions is fun (and maybe to cheese their way through the next comp)
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 15:43:19 UTC No. 220997
wiltse is back on youtube again, his blue belt test story is pretty amusing https://youtu.be/F97y6QDnues
>mile and a half of bear crawls with no stopping
>400 burpees
>body drags and wheelbarrows up and down the mat
>rolling portion where if you get tapped you do 20 push ups
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 15:44:47 UTC No. 220998
>>220997
didnt realize this was already in the OP, oops
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 15:58:44 UTC No. 220999
>>220975
Just take a hot shower
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 16:15:48 UTC No. 221000
>>220994
Nobody gets into jiujitsu because they want to do bjj competitions. People who have been in it for years don't even want to do them
If the goal is to cheese then you're the same scum that tries to win by reeping yourself with the opponents leg do he gets a DQ
Can't expect honor and sportsmanship from gifags
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:16:52 UTC No. 221002
>>221001
Whos that? Does he shower to warm up?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:28:11 UTC No. 221003
>>221002
Lmao what kind of gross faggot are you that you don't shower before class
Nobody wants your coomer stink on them
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:41:05 UTC No. 221006
>>220983
>pencilneck nerd teaching martial art
Wing chun level of grift.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:47:23 UTC No. 221007
>>221003
Does he avoid the warmup in class because he warmed up in the shower?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:53:48 UTC No. 221008
>>221007
If your class does warmups you're in a bad gym and should seek other places to spend your time and money
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:59:10 UTC No. 221011
>>221010
tom is a clown much like greg, so this circus show should be pretty funny to watch
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:01:29 UTC No. 221012
>>221011
Greg is going to talk circles around both of them with technical jargon alone
But if Tom deblass is the best you can come up with for your side of an argument I expect they're going to have a tough night
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:46:49 UTC No. 221023
>>221008
If your gym doesnt include a hot sauna beforehand as standard are you even training?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:51:54 UTC No. 221025
>>221023
Not sure if you realize you're just trolling yourself here at this point
Raise your hand if you wish your gym had a sauna
Mine does because it's a proper facility and not subletting a broom closet with pizzle mats like most of you train on because your teacher sucks and can't attract enough peolle to run a real business
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 19:52:54 UTC No. 221065
>>221010
I hate this shit so fucking much
Ecoschizos believe their way is the only way you can improve and teaching technique is anathema, anti-ecoschizos can't comprehend training methods other than two hours of mindless drilling, both will try to sell you their way as the only true way. Training modalities are a fucking team sport now. Age of unlimited information and this is the quality of discourse we're getting
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 21:39:22 UTC No. 221119
>>221010
>>221065
What the heck is an ecological approach? You do BJJ outside?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 21:56:12 UTC No. 221128
>>221119
Instead of just showing and drilling a technique, it involves a lot of positional sparring with very specific objectives: Get an underhook, break your opponent's posture, establish dominant grips, things like that. It breaks the positional fight down into many "small battles".
It also incorporates "games". For example, first round you try to open your opponent's guard from your knees, second round you are allowed to stand up, to instill that opening up a guard is much easier from the standing position.
It is a good approach because it emphasizes concepts over techniques, shows the "why" alongside "what" and "how", and it involves a lot of sparring. But there are "eco-purists" who straight up don't believe in teaching any technique whatsoever and think that the student should figure everything out by themselves, which is obviously retarded. Plus they like to act like it's some new and revolutionary thing that will change how BJJ is trained forever, when it's something that many coaches were already doing in some capacity
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 22:09:12 UTC No. 221136
>>221128
Yeah that doesn't sound that unusual. It's really just a middle ground between a totally rote drill and actual sparring.
If you're not teaching technique then I don't think you could really say you're teaching Jiu Jitsu. That'd be more like trying to get people to invent their own martial art by putting them in a situation and then asking them to figure out how to achieve some particular aim, then correcting mistakes and trying again.
Which could be interesting I guess, the Montessori School of martial arts.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 22:22:46 UTC No. 221145
>>221136
>the Montessori School of martial arts
That's kinda what hardline eco is. I think it's kinda stupid because leaving every student to reinvent the wheel by themselves wastes both their time and their instructor's knowledge and experience
I feel like eco might be the best way to teach absolute fundamentals and as the students progress you use less and less eco -because they are already familiar with the underlying concepts- and more specific techniques as solutions to particular problems
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 23:52:54 UTC No. 221165
>>221128
>straight up don't believe in teaching any technique whatsoever and think that the student should figure everything out by themselves
this is what happens on the eco reddit and discord however hasn't ever been gregs position, he defers to the fact that a lot of positions have already been figured out by other people and that mimicry is a way people learn things. The contention is running a class by saying copy what I do is wasting everyones time since it doesn't actually skill build especially when someone only has 1-2 hours a week to train and half that time is spent being an uke for some other chucklefuck and not even getting any work in yourself
one of the great efficiencies of eco is that both partners are getting reps in at all times, nobody is ever just sitting there doing nothing
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 07:55:16 UTC No. 221211
>>220889
This is one of the most bitter and seething posts I have seen on this website lmao
Imagine people laughing at you for saying something so stupid and then you double down on your stupidity
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 14:17:07 UTC No. 221277
>>221211
he's from reddit
you should have seen his responses in other threads
he was saying shit like
>"you're lucky this isnt reddit"
he's taking it hyper seriously and even told someone in another thread if they
>"behaved that way at a bjj gym they'd be on the professors shitlist for life."
it was really cringey. lots of grand standing.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:12:49 UTC No. 221347
>>221211
>>221277
You continue to make things up desperately trying to save face
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:47:39 UTC No. 221385
>>221362
I don't know who that is, so stop replying to my posts about it
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:48:55 UTC No. 221387
>>221385
>im only pretending to be retarded
>i didnt mean to make the shower so hot
>>220314
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:50:43 UTC No. 221390
>>221387
You're sitting up every thread talking about showers, its just spam at this point
Hey here's a good idea, if you don't like what someone said in a thread keep it in that fucking thread you collosal retard
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:52:55 UTC No. 221395
>>221390
you're the one who is throwing a tantrum about it like a bitch.
you could have ignored his post
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:58:11 UTC No. 221400
>>221395
You can fuck off too
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:58:46 UTC No. 221401
>>221025
if being pampered if your focus for martial arts maybe you shouldnt be doing martial arts
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:03:05 UTC No. 221403
>>221401
Practicing in shit conditions doesn't make you better
But it does give you a convenient excuse when you never reach the same heights as other people
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:03:20 UTC No. 221404
>>221400
christ is everyone who does bjj this cringey?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:06:47 UTC No. 221408
>>221403
>USING THE SAUNA GIVES ME SUPER POWERS
thank you hot shower scientist
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:24:14 UTC No. 221415
>>221404
>don't even do jiujitsu
>make the majority of the posts in the jiujitsu thread
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:54:13 UTC No. 221424
>>221415
i want you to point out who you think is samefagging
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:00:18 UTC No. 221428
>>221424
and I want you to stop trolling the thread, but here we are
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:02:43 UTC No. 221430
>>221428
that was my first post the entire thread
i usually read first before posting. you're retarded
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:08:54 UTC No. 221432
>>221430
Then you didn't read enough since this twat has been trolling the board for a week now after he miserably lost an argument and you decided to throw your hat in with him
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:23:18 UTC No. 221442
>>221432
the majority of this thread is you being angry
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 03:08:22 UTC No. 221542
>>221277
Loooooool
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 15:28:09 UTC No. 221601
>>221600
based kneedestroy9000
they called me xXxKneeDestroyer666xXx on 360
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:43:42 UTC No. 221666
>>220879
Genuine question. I recently torn my meniscus, it's not a bucket handle tear but it's still annoying
And that was after an lcl tear in my other knee, I didn't need surgery but it took 3 months to rehab
Is bjj a good choice for me given my shitty knees or is it just part of the sport and I should stop doing DLR guards and x and change my gameplan
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:57:20 UTC No. 221667
>>221666
>bjj a good choice for me given my shitty knees
LOL!
>I should stop doing DLR guards and x and change my gameplan
But also this
There will always be a risk to the knees doing this but you don't need to go out of the way to make it worse for yourself
It will however give you a conveniently built in excuse like Nicky Ryan where he fails to achieve anything and can blame it on his knees. Thats the reason he won't get them repaired and we all know it
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:58:48 UTC No. 221668
>>221666
checked
also you're gonna have to change your game as you age anyway dude.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 23:55:48 UTC No. 221716
What is this pass called? I saw this movement in a video for the Anaconda and thought that I could apply it to passing. 1:35 in the video.
https://youtu.be/gQy-mmKJSu0?si=djt
Sorry, I am not good at describing the position. When I am in someone's half guard or a similar position where my opponent's legs prevent me from passing, I will try to isolate the head and arm just like in the timestamp.
Once my hands are locked, it is very easy to crunch the head of my opponent and I can untangle my legs. The pass definetly has a name and I want to find out how to better implement it, since the main drawback is actually getting my far away arm over and potentially getting caught in a Kimura.
The pass itself works quite well though.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 02:46:16 UTC No. 221803
>>221716
cow catcher aka farm boy
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 03:13:33 UTC No. 221807
>>221803
Thanks. It's pretty much the one I use except that instead of going for an underhook, I weave my arm the other way to connect both of my hands. Kind of like going for a guillotine but controlling my opponents arm as well.
Will definetly try the regular variant and see how it goes.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 07:00:52 UTC No. 221828
>>221815
went to a BJJ seminar at a big MMA gym
>there were no-gi and MMA classes going on simultaneously in addition to the BJJ class, all within short range of each other, nothing set up in between to block the noise
>friend's white gi pants turn yellow at the knees due to the mats bleeding off colour
>it's summer time, there is no air conditioning, no blinds on any of the windows so the sun is burning straight onto the mats, making them super hot
>three separate classes going on so imagine the humidity
>had to spar a guy who smelled like cigarettes and cat piss, never escaped out of side control faster in my life
aside from the lack of air conditioning it was fine
pretty mild considering some of the stories you get to read online
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 15:16:36 UTC No. 221853
>>221828
Did it have a sauna at least?
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 15:24:20 UTC No. 221855
>>221853
yes, it had two if you include the mat space
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 16:03:01 UTC No. 221862
>>221855
Don't reply to him
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:58:58 UTC No. 221886
>>221828
>the sun is burning straight onto the mats, making them super hot
Oh man you just reminded me.
When I was maybe 11-12, I took Judo classes and we went to a small inter-gym tournament in another city. The gym hosting it probably wanted to market itself a little and so the tournament was held outdoors, right in the middle of the main square. Except it was over 30°C (>86°F) and around noon and the mats got so hot that you could probably fry an egg and it was almost impossible to walk on them without hopping like a retard playing DDR. Somehow it all went without a hitch though
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 21:57:38 UTC No. 221944
>>221862
he's not me because the shit i would say would be so stupid that you would probably reply to it. I dont really do low effort stuff
Ive only posted ITT like a total of 4 times
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 04:08:32 UTC No. 221975
>erm like, I don't care if there's no science backing up my position, it just feels icky if I don't do static drills ok??
As expected he talked circles around the smoothbrains, but the funniest part is the guy that challenged him to the debate brought in Tom to do all the talking for him
https://youtu.be/zOP_gvJuM_4?si=GRN
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 04:34:54 UTC No. 221979
>>221975
The second half especially is a lesson in futility, Dan genuinely seems to have an IQ in the 80s. It's like he's talking to a wall
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 05:16:28 UTC No. 221986
>>221975
why can none of these guys invest in a microphone and webcam setup
the audio quality alone is so horrible that i can't stand listening to this just due to that alone
but that aside, it's just so weird to try and turn this into a debate, and to act so combative against someone teaching things in the way they prefer (this goes to both sides of the "argument")
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 05:40:42 UTC No. 221989
>>221986
He's mad because Greg said instructionals aren't worth the money so he swooped in to defend Danahers honor like a good little cultist
even though Greg never fired any shots at John directly, just the idea that learning that way is ineffective
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 10:01:27 UTC No. 222015
>>221989
>instructionals aren't worth the money
Besides the point, but I think it really depends
Many just present a loosely collected assortment of techniques, which is pretty worthless. Others delve into the concepts and goals behind a specific position or technique, those are the actually useful one. Danaher in particular likes to go into autistic detail and explain the why behind every little step, which is a kind of instruction that I really like
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 14:24:14 UTC No. 222040
Why is staph so common in bjj but not other grappling arts?
Ive also noticed that a lot of bjj professors have a bad habit of not cleaning the mat as often as they claim.
The school im currently going to the mat is riddled with pubes and body hair and just random items that you cant see due to how small they are or mat coloration
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 14:48:38 UTC No. 222041
>>222040
Brazilians
They don't even flush their toilet paper, just crumple it and throw it in the waste basket
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 14:53:51 UTC No. 222042
>>222041
The only reason i can think to do that is if you have an older septic system.
I know when i was a kid at my families ranch we'd have to put it in the trash because the septic system couldnt handle it. But there's no excuses if it just goes into sewage
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 14:56:58 UTC No. 222043
>>222040
the mats at my gym have never been washed to my knowledge, at most someone will wipe the dust and debris off with a dry rag when it gets too much
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 15:21:42 UTC No. 222048
>>222046
we're a pretty small gym, typical class gets 6-8 people on average
i've trained for over three years and never had any skin conditions and i'm very rarely sick, i train 3 times a week consistently
it comes down to the smaller numbers, good personal hygiene on part of individual members, cooler climate and dumb luck, i guess
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 15:59:17 UTC No. 222051
>>222042
But then they come to a different country and keep doing it for cultural reasons
Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 21:02:02 UTC No. 222093
>>222015
System or deep looks at single moves
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 00:31:23 UTC No. 222125
>>222095
>replying to *HIM*
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 00:35:05 UTC No. 222127
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 03:22:02 UTC No. 222132
>>222015
he over explains though, 30+ hours of the feet to floor instructional boils down to
>use collar ties and snap downs to create a posture dilemma
>if they go forward control them in a 4 point position and use your front headlock series of choice
>if they stay tall move to the back and achieve a rear body lock using your back chase of choice
>bring them to the ground using your rear takedown of choice
>attack the back using your back attack series of choice
he says a lot without really saying anything
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 03:33:08 UTC No. 222133
>>222132
so he just explained something that you learn in class?
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 03:41:04 UTC No. 222135
Does anybody teach BJJ in a semester kind of format? Like you have a schedule of classes for a couple months where you start at the beginning and work through material in a logical first-principles kind of way?
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 04:39:24 UTC No. 222139
>>222135
No but if you want a beginner to low-mid level class plan look at slime mold grappling Foundations.
>https://slimemoldgrappling.com/les
It isn't finished yet but you can teach some one the basics with out doing a lot of work on your end.
I not a big fan of eco for learning skills but over all it is good for learn and having fun.
Week 1 is pinning and naked chokes from the back and escaping from those positions.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 04:49:54 UTC No. 222140
>>222133
If your instructor teaches any strategy at all it's an outlier case
That's why there is an instructional market at all, most of the people teaching this shit are completely inept retards
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 05:11:12 UTC No. 222143
>>222140
>most of the people teaching this shit are completely inept retards
Yes 100%
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 05:48:13 UTC No. 222145
>>222127
correct
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 07:22:23 UTC No. 222153
>>222132
>watching feet to floor
There's your problem. Danaher's competence rapidly falls off the moment he steps outside the pure jiujitsu realm.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 11:46:27 UTC No. 222161
>>222135
My gym does something like that. There is a "recruitment" (closest translation) class that starts from the absolute fundamentals and then after a couple of months the students are shuffled out to regular classes while the recruitment class starts over
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 16:54:46 UTC No. 222183
>>222153
Eddie bravos rubber guard book has more information for learning effective half guard than John's half guard DVD and the first 30 pages of that book are about smoking weed and raw dogging groupies
When that retard gets to the point faster you got a problem
My opinion if you want to see what new wave is doing just watch film. His dvds aren't worth it
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 17:03:28 UTC No. 222187
>>222145
No wonder. Kids are just disease vectors. Might not need to clean your mats if nobody under the age of 18 is ever on them.
>>222161
That sounds interesting. Do they have any attendance issues with the recruitment class and if so how do they deal with those?
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 17:50:56 UTC No. 222199
>>222187
>Do they have any attendance issues with the recruitment class
Dunno, but I don't think so. Rarely are there classes where there isn't at least 10 people on the mat, regardless of level. Even if a relatively small percentage sticks around, it's a big (by local standards), relatively important city so there's never a shortage of potential customers
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 20:42:00 UTC No. 222224
>>222135
we have a beginners class which happens before the advanced class
you can go to any class you want but if you go to the advanced class we will not slow anything down to help you, keep up or get out you have a class if you don't understand how jiujitsu works
and if you aren't a blue belt you're going to be pestered constantly to go to the beginners class if you aren't going
Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 21:49:48 UTC No. 222234
>>222183
I have studied both and I got to disagree
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 04:52:53 UTC No. 222290
>>220879
I have never understood why people liked this guy or hated him.
Buzzsaw passing was pretty okay.
Could someone fill me in?
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 06:41:55 UTC No. 222298
>>222290
The flo documentary made daisyfresh (the most overhyped team in modern history) seem like an endearing gaggle of goofballs trying their best and he was their best player
But also he's an unironic schizo that's a danger to himself and others when he goes off his meds
As with all mentally ill people you should wish him well and keep your distance
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 12:17:14 UTC No. 222311
Hi everyone I joined a BJJ gym yesterday for the first time
We didn't do any warmups or stretching, instead we all had a hot shower together which lasted around 15 minutes (including drying)
Is this normal ?
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 22:17:02 UTC No. 222366
>>222298
>you should wish him well and keep your distance
Very sensible, more people should think like this.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Feb 2025 22:45:04 UTC No. 222368
>>222298
how do these people get the go ahead to keep training?
Actual question.
Like if i found out someome had some schizoid bpd and was a genuine danger to people i wouldnt let them on the mat.
There's a difference between a spaz who initally wants to hurt people because he's new and wants that adrenaline rush and just a genuine schizoid who became skilled who will just dialated-pupils levels of going crazy
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 06:09:00 UTC No. 222399
>>222368
daisy fresh in particular are basically just a team of murder hobos that were taught BJJ, think teenage mutant ninja turtles
half of those guys use training as a way to keep themselves in check, or at least that was the impression i got from watching the documentary, i'm not sure how things are now
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 10:13:35 UTC No. 222410
>>222368
Bipolars are fine when they're medicated. They're only a problem when they're off their meds for whatever reason, then it's a question of how fast they start spiraling into either mania or depression
Also, manic episodes aren't always as severe as what we've seen with Wiltse, his was a more extreme case
I think training is perfectly doable if the coach is informed and knows how to recognize when someone is off their meds, so he can keep them off the mat until they're stable again
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 13:59:31 UTC No. 222412
>>222410
Bipolar isn't real. Just another made up bullshit for pampered westerners to feel special
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 16:38:42 UTC No. 222428
>>222412
Tell that to my ex Jess. One minute she's sweet and affectionate, the next minute she threw a plate at my head and was raging.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 17:11:27 UTC No. 222435
>>222428
Wouldn't wild emotional swings like that be closer to Borderline?
Bipolar is cycling between states of depression and mania, the former being self-explanatory and the latter basically making the person act like they're tweaked out on meth
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 17:51:02 UTC No. 222438
>>222435
Manic-depressive usually shows up with cluster b personality disorders, You can have more than one thing wrong with you
I have a family member that's unraveling and it's becoming unsafe, I've had to break up 2 physical altercations this week
It's to the point where we're discussing options of involuntary outside intervention
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 19:54:52 UTC No. 222447
>>222438
If they're refusing medication or psychiatric intervention, you may be able to have them involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital, if your country allows that. But I would use that as a last resort, if there is no other way
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 20:47:36 UTC No. 222453
>>222435
bpd isnt real
it's just an excuse for women to be shitty
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 21:08:55 UTC No. 222458
>>222447
Really don't want to do that, but it's likely if there was a knife on the counter when the blow up happened it would've been a bad outcome because you can see nobody is home once that switch flips, and you can see it ramp up more and more like an excited psychosis
No reasoning can happen just physically overpowering until it burns out
Didn't call the police even though it would've been justified but as they say, there's no situation the police can't make worse
We said just go to the Doctor and tell them you are having difficulty regulating your emotions which is causing you to have sudden extreme outbursts
And they can see if it's a hormonal issue or give you something but, If you don't do that we will have to take action ourselves and the consequences will be worse than if you voluntarily do it
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 05:30:59 UTC No. 222489
>>222399
>basically just a team of murder hobos that were taught BJJ
Wish there was more teams/gyms like this
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 12:07:14 UTC No. 222502
>>222489
It's a very niche thing because the training environment it creates is *only* suitable for pros that have nothing else going on in life
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 17:28:57 UTC No. 222523
>>220983
Jon Thomas is actually good and legit though.
>>220997
I took the Vaghi blue belt test and it's exactly like he describes it. They haze you for 2 hours. I threw up. You do bear crawls, run across the mat with a partner on your back, squat in place and so on. The only break I got was doing sit ups or wall sits, then they beat your ass for 1 hour with 6 minute rounds, no break, hope that someone rolling with you is an upper belt that likes you and basically just holds you down for the round without hurting you bc you can't defend urself. I did a scissor sweep from closed guard during it and felt really proud of myself. I somehow drove myself home and I don't remember how. They also eat donuts and drink gatorade and mentally fuck with you the entire time basically anyone can show up and yell shit and troll you while you're doing it.
Funniest thing was watching a morbidly obese coach who was running the test get a massage in the middle of the mat from this Mexican girl that the entire gym fucked.
>>221003
I do recommend to shower before class.
>>221128
This kind of training can be good but I think you can get some bad habits like hesitation because you opened the guard but didn't immediately go for a pass bc you gamed just opening it over and over
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 17:37:36 UTC No. 222526
>>222453
I worked with a Russian psychiatrist who believed that BPD was an American only thing. Never heard him say that but other people attributed it to him and I can see it. It probably exists globally but manifests itself in different ways based on the culture. Don't know really anywhere else where it's so socially acceptable for women to cut themselves and have tantrums as it in the the USA.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 18:33:09 UTC No. 222534
>>222523
that whole situation sounds super gay
>Jon Thomas
as for this fag, I'll need to see him roll nogi before I decide if he's good or not because lapel guards aren't good grappling they're just taking advantage of loopholes in the rules
I think I got him pegged the same way as this one faggot in japan when I was a blue belt and he was a purple belt that was a gumby tying me up with the gi and I couldn't do much about it. Then he won asian pans the following weekend and was promoted to brown belt
a week later I rolled with him nogi and it was a completely opposite story, I completely blew his shit out, was passing him at will, then he started getting grimy and cracked me two times with in the head his knee so I popped my elbow into his mouth and he rage quit and stormed off. He had nothing without his crutch to hold me in place for him
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 19:58:54 UTC No. 222552
>>222523
>I took the Vaghi blue belt test and it's exactly like he describes it
jesus christ man, you're doing pajama wrestling, not joining the marine corps
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 20:38:05 UTC No. 222564
>>222523
>They haze you for 2 hours. I threw up. You do bear crawls, run across the mat with a partner on your back, squat in place and so on. The only break I got was doing sit ups or wall sits
What does this have to do with skill in BJJ? Any athlete would perform more or less the same for half this test.
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:38:40 UTC No. 222607
>>220879
Andrew Wiltse Archive Oct 24 (free content only no paid instructionals) (222.52GB)
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2f06f62c5a5f29d
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 18:45:02 UTC No. 222613
>>222560
she gives you a bj while doing bjj while watching bj penn
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 19:02:02 UTC No. 222619
>>222564
the reason:
>it make you feel like big brotherhood with your gym and training partners men... you shared da same struggle... everivon had to do eet...
the real reason:
>just an excuse for some brazilian with a superiority complex to lord over you like some cult leader
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 19:57:07 UTC No. 222621
>>222619
Brasil is da real samurai ooos
This is such a fruity activity
I'm only going for heart health because it's more exciting than jogging
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 22:32:28 UTC No. 222630
>>222560
Jordan's been with her since middle school for the record, this isn't someone he met from bjj in case anyone is wondering
>>222619
>just an excuse for some brazilian with a superiority complex to lord over you like some cult leader
None of my instructors are Brazilian, my main instructor isn't, the gym owner isn't and Rodrigo Vaghi himself is (technically) Italian.
The real reason is probably just to make you tough and not quit.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 01:17:20 UTC No. 222641
>>222630
>The real reason is probably just to make you tough and not quit.
sounds pretty gay
and additionally an instructor should never set physical standards they themselves could not achieve
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 01:47:44 UTC No. 222642
>>222641
All the instructors also did the test themselves. I think you like to complain.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 02:18:03 UTC No. 222644
>>222642
there's no way that obese man is doing bear crawls
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 02:53:05 UTC No. 222649
>>222630
>None of my instructors are Brazilian, my main instructor isn't, the gym owner isn't and Rodrigo Vaghi himself is (technically) Italian.
he means the culture you retard
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 02:54:33 UTC No. 222650
>>222619
>>it make you feel like big brotherhood with your gym and training partners men... you shared da same struggle... everivon had to do eet
i swear to fuck whoever thinks that community and comradery is actually built like this got dropped on their head repeatedly as a child.
if this is how it worked there'd be prison riots left and right when all the gangs realize they're all in prison.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 02:57:11 UTC No. 222652
>>222619
As much as BJJ is meant to be anti-bullshido, it sure does a lot of the same things bullshido does.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 03:00:11 UTC No. 222655
>>222652
BJJ is currently at popular as karate was in the 80s. Except BJJ doesnt wanna sort itself out.
It's like that angry teenager that doesnf wanna explain to their parents how they feel they just want their parents to understand
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 03:09:47 UTC No. 222659
>>222652
>>222655
I think anything that's popular gets ruined because it's popular. Too many people breeds idiocy.
Maybe I'll get back into Aikido...
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 03:17:30 UTC No. 222661
>>222659
>I think anything that's popular gets ruined because it's popular. Too many people breeds idiocy.
i agree with you on other martial arts but bjj has been like this since it's conception.
The gracies were always sore losers and a lot of schools in the US their lineage hails from the gracies.
Getting taught by them wont make you an idiot or a bitch like them. But their cultural mark is left forever in the sport/martial art.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 03:20:55 UTC No. 222663
>>222661
and it's reflection is all the people that try to act like a tough guy just because they train, acting like that gets you killed.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 04:48:05 UTC No. 222672
I keep telling you people the tides are turning
As long as they keep insisting people wear a gi jiujitsu will die soon
There has always been resistance to the fruitier components and now that other options are popping up all over the place bjjs getting left in the dust
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 05:07:04 UTC No. 222673
>>222672
Don't most places offer no-gi? I don't know any places in my area that only do gi.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 05:39:09 UTC No. 222675
>>222644
to be honest each belt adds 20 lbs
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Feb 2025 06:07:45 UTC No. 222676
>>222673
Because there's no longer a market for gi only, they have to at a minimum offer both
But you can just do nogi only and your business will be fine, in fact it may flourish even more
All the major promotions are nogi now, the youth sees the gi and belts and thinks it's gay just like karate and they're not wrong
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 03:05:20 UTC No. 222756
>>222676
honestly, no gi just looks like shitty wrestling
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 04:26:41 UTC No. 222760
>>222650
>prison riots left and right when all the gangs realize they're all in prison.
I agreed with up too that point, it is a big problem when to much of one gang is put in a block together.
They need to be mixed in equal with other gangs to prevent this.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 05:01:53 UTC No. 222765
>>222672
>>222676
Gi is only a symptom of gay. Still plenty of gayness going on in no-gi only schools.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 05:09:10 UTC No. 222767
>>222760
sometimes i forget how brutally retarded the average person on this website is
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 05:21:19 UTC No. 222769
>>222756
But the wrestler will tap and that makes them gay
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 13:06:53 UTC No. 222789
>>222769
if slamming was allowed in most gyms he'd have slammed you a billion times before he tapped
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:07:03 UTC No. 222797
>>222789
Nah
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:58:33 UTC No. 222800
>>222797
what if he slammed you and you submitted him in a hot shower?
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:50:36 UTC No. 222808
Origin belt looks like shit, and worse yet it has leather on it which means it isn't getting washed
Wash your belt you faggots
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 21:30:14 UTC No. 222853
>>222808
Can i wash it in....a hot shower?
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 00:49:35 UTC No. 222887
>>220879
So what do you guys think about Gracie Barra gyms?
I'm going to have to join one. Eye watering expensive since I don't have their Gi but oh well.
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 01:40:54 UTC No. 222891
>>222887
incredibly jewish, they're a clothing company not a jiujitsu company
to put it another way, you get a blue belt and when people ask "where'd you get it from?" and you say gracie barra you'll be met universally with an eye roll
reminder in life, if someone wont give you pricing over the phone don't do business with them. They're afraid you'll walk before they can do their scripted pitch which is an admission the value of what they're selling doesn't speak for itself
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 01:46:42 UTC No. 222892
>>222891
Different anon, but I'm doing a Gracie Barra place because it's the only one in my area that I can do two times a week instead of once a week. I know nothing, is it so bad I should find somewhere else? Is it good enough for basics before I downgrade for once a week?
My plan was to go 2/3 times a week for a year or so, then step down to 1/2. I can afford this spot but obviously I wouldn't mind spending less for an equivalent/superior instruction.
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 02:12:34 UTC No. 222894
>>222892
do what you can afford
GB being the walmart of jiujitsu doesn't necessarily mean local options are any better
if you like it and feel like it's worth your time then stay there, or shop around and do trial classes at other places to see what they're like
how much they charging you?
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 02:26:59 UTC No. 222895
>>222894
It's about a $170 a month, a bit more steep than the other places. The thing is I am not short for places to do BJJ, but this spot just happens to be convenient in ways the rest kinda aren't.
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 03:12:31 UTC No. 222898
>>222891
that's literally any school with the word gracie in it
Gracie Slampigs bjj
Gracie braphogs bjj
Gracie Powershitters bjj
Anything with gracie should just be avoided
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 04:14:26 UTC No. 222901
>>222895
I think that's expensive for what you get especially since they make you buy their equipment too
but convenience is part of that value equation
>>222898
basically this
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 04:19:36 UTC No. 222903
>>222901
Damn...well I'm at least going to go try some more free classes then.
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 15:57:48 UTC No. 222935
>>222903
Anything with gracie in it should be avoided because it could be a massive mixed bag.
Gracie places may not even let you train unless your from another gracie place. A lot of them dont even roll with their students they're just gi salesmen.
The instruction is bound to be a mixed bag ranging from literally showing you the move once and expecting you to land it first try to showing you multiple times and correcting and teaching you as you go like proper teaching.
They make bjj seem fun but a lot of problems in modern bjj stem from fucking gracie places.
You're gonna be paying in the hundreds worth of cash and the head instructor can charge you as much a they want for equipment depending if you're on their shitlist snd they'll just pressure you into paying an obescene amount for a gi that can be bought online for like $140 (Renzo Gracie schools do this lol)
no they wont give you patches
no they wint let you train if you're from some place they never heard of
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:00:18 UTC No. 222937
>>222935
every bjj horror story ive read online it somehow ends up being a fucking gracie school
>my professor was a complete and utter dick to me and popped my knee
>oh what school
>"it was imretardGracie school"
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:06:35 UTC No. 222939
>>222937
and most gracie places are fucking packed because the first people new martial artists learn about when they get into bjj is the gracies.
More peoolr means better bjj and variety but worse instruction because the instructor depending on how prepetually concussed they are may focus on their favorites or their compeition students
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:21:09 UTC No. 222945
Gracie HQ says no rolling until blue belt
How's a nigga supposed to get a blue belt having never practiced before?
Just memorize their "self defense" moves and do the performance with a compliant faggot
Might as well be taking karate at that point
I think the practice for gracie barra is 3 stripes before you can roll
I know it's 3 stripes before you're allowed to nogi
Why? Because they need to milk you for gi sales for a year first
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:32:32 UTC No. 222947
>>222945
honestly if karate places and tma places stopped pairinv adults with kids they'd be better introductions to martial arts than the horrible mixed bag bjj is
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:34:05 UTC No. 222948
>>222947
if someone isnt willing to put up with bjjs bullcrap they may never wanna do martial arts again and assume that all martial arts are like that
or that every bjj place is like that
>new spaz white belt used strength
>LETS POP HIS KNEE THAT'LL TEACH HIM
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:42:22 UTC No. 222951
>>222948
It's a consequence of there not being a true governing body. On the upside, anyone can run their school however they want, on the downside there are literally zero standards for schools or instructors so the quality ranges wildly
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:52:43 UTC No. 222953
Wait until they find out the ibjjf and gracie barra are the same company
You may not be going to a gracie gym but you're subsidizing them if you go to those tournaments
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 17:02:26 UTC No. 222956
>>222939
and dont be fooled by reviews online.
Many instructors pressure their class into giving them a good review. First place i went to would lecture about giving the school a good review on facebook or google and you'd somehow end up on a shitlist if you didnt
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 17:06:27 UTC No. 222957
>>222956
Lol everywhere I've worked we give people free things if they give 5 star reviews
Like purple boxing gloves which are in the shop on display but not for sale, with a sign "ask how to get them"
Like it's an exclusive club
Currently in the locker rooms there's a QR code, leave a review get 20% off this month's membership
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 17:15:18 UTC No. 222958
>>222957
that's so fucking scummy for people that care more about quality teaching
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 17:16:47 UTC No. 222959
>>222956
>>222957
>>222958
Basically any company that's anything less than 100% established does that. They know that many, many people find things through online reviews.
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 17:42:30 UTC No. 222963
>>222958
The boxing place was a total pump n dump, opening up all over chicken pox, selling memberships at a big discount if you pay in full for a year or class packages, mandatory to buy our gloves and hand wraps, lol good luck if the location stayed open for that full year
Don't worry your membership transfers over to the other locations :^)
What do you mean it's too far away? it's in the contract you signed that your membership remains valid as long as you live within 25 miles of one of our locations
I guess we can let you out of your contract early for a small fee of 3 months membership
The place was a total scam, and I would tell everybody never to go there but I also continued to work there because I needed a job
Then I moved on to an MMA place which was not an outright scam so much it was planet fitness tier for martial arts
Classes were low quality by design, The purpose was to make shallow cuts so people would then pay for private lessons to learn good stuff, plus promotions cost money and it was mandatory to wear our stuff. The reason this was not an outright scam is because there was a full gym so you could just use this place as a gym membership to workout and then there were these jiujitsu classes as well, And for under $100 a month I don't know what you're expecting
Now currently where a work it is not a scam, The owner and the instructors all give a shit and are trying to provide the best value possible to people however, there is some salesy stuff going on
The current and new owner is buying out all the local gyms can, As of now there's 7 total in the network he has equity in and one more coming down the pipe, 2 he owns outright
And the plan is timing it so when the leases expire around the same time 5 years from now he's going to rugpull everything and open up Central mega gym
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 20:16:54 UTC No. 222999
>>222887
I don't like GB and actively discourage anyone from going there because of how much they are like a McDonalds, they make everyone wear their shit and nothing else, even if your school is "cool" and doesn't do this, they will eventually catch on and make you do it. Any gym that is "white gi only" can fuck off while we're at it.
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:56:03 UTC No. 223017
>>222999
well this is of course because a black gi will fade over time and look broken in and cool, a white gi will get stained and grimy so you need to replace them more frequently
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 23:19:38 UTC No. 223024
>>222891
>reminder in life, if someone wont give you pricing over the phone don't do business with them.
They were very upfront actually. I did ask a lot of questions to cover all flanks though. I am getting used to the ways of this Hebraic world
>>222999
It's scary how your trips are quite acurate. A guy there (I went to the trial) told me they used to allow normal Gis but then they switched and they are all uniformed now.
I will have to join anyways. It's the only decent place in my peace of shit country, even though we are glued to Brazil.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 00:19:50 UTC No. 223032
>>223024
well there's your problem, everyone knows the worst thing about jiujitsu is brazilians
the quality of your jiujitsu experience is inversely related to the number of brazilians you're in proximity to
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 01:15:48 UTC No. 223041
>>223032
Why's that?
As an outsider I do feel BJJ is more American Jiu JItsu currently anyways.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 01:54:26 UTC No. 223046
>>223041
Just a bad culture
they're the worst kind of thirdie that's hypernationalist but for some reason left their home country??
All they do is talk about how great Brazil is and all the ways Brazil is better and yet...You're here trying to greencard scam your way to permanent residency
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 01:59:54 UTC No. 223047
>>223041
>I do feel BJJ is more American Jiu JItsu
There is a split in bjj vs Jiu-Jitsu
A lot of guys at the renzo gyms in new york said brazilians would cheer for brazilians from other gyms instead of there team mate who aren't brazilians.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 02:21:05 UTC No. 223049
>>223047
we call it the jiujitsu mafia, gotta kiss the ring to the brazilians. That bubble is bursting thankfully
there was always this thing where you have grey area moves like aoki locks or what exactly constitutes a reap or a neck crank, and I tell the beginners all the time "that's illegal unless you speak portuguese"
https://youtu.be/7wqhbfKeAxI?si=59B
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 03:07:21 UTC No. 223054
>>223046
I see. But IMO they are not the worst kind of immigrant thirdie overall, but maybe in BJJ they are.
>>223047
From the sidelines I can only say that AJJ is winning. Brazilians, especially the Gracies are not in the spotlight anymore.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 05:02:05 UTC No. 223063
>American Jiu-Jitsu
What is it?
Is it Nogi?, Wrestle jitsu?
If I learn wrestling and attack the front headlock am I doing AJJ?
>t. Norwegen
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 05:15:23 UTC No. 223065
>>223063
No-gi, which will eventually just morph into catch-as-catch-can wrestling again someday.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 05:32:01 UTC No. 223066
>>223054
Because the American values are superior
The Brazilians are low trust people, They will be sneaky and do whatever it takes to win rather than face their adversary honourably
The American doesn't just care about winning but it's how you win that matters, That's instilled at a young age
The Brazilian will purposely try to win by getting their opponent disqualified and by cheating, And they will jump up and celebrate believing that is the same as if they won fairly
Because of this mentality they believe in hoarding any knowledge they have and never letting anybody know, they want to keep tricks and new discoveries to themselves and use them as a surprise attack. This is why the Brazilian will not let you go train at other gyms, If they don't want their "secrets" to be stolen
The Americans on the other hand will communicate with each other, they will openly share information with rivals, The American will tell you exactly how he intends to win and then do it anyway
And this is what drives progression, All the information always being shared everybody trying to outdo each other
This mentality is why the Americans are completely leaving the Brazilians behind, Because we see the value in a fair contest against our opponent at their best. An easy win isn't really a win at all
>>223063
It's a deeper cut than that, It's wrestling as well as leg locks. Those are the 2 defining stylistic features
But to go full AJJ you need to adopt the cultural attitude as well
No imaginary hierarchy, no bowing to pictures of dead guys, no undue respect treating the teacher like you're a servant and below him gargling his balls
You treat other people in the sport as colleagues with the same goal of pushing each other towards improvement, not enemies that need to be destroyed
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 07:30:47 UTC No. 223073
>>223065
>No-gi, which will eventually just morph into catch-as-catch-can wrestling again someday.
I don't think winning by pin will become popular for some time
>>223066
>It's a deeper cut than that, It's wrestling as well as leg locks. Those are the 2 defining stylistic features
DDS and Daisy Fresh did make a big slaps with both of those.
> You treat other people in the sport as colleagues with the same goal of pushing each other towards improvement, not enemies that need to be destroyed
Colleagues is a good word for it, and the way you talk about it is close to 1950-1960s American engineering
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 07:32:06 UTC No. 223075
>>223073
>a big slaps
splash
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 07:40:40 UTC No. 223077
>>223075
My mind now goes to slapping a boner on the surface of the water in a bath tub
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 13:45:38 UTC No. 223084
>>223049
>grey area moves like aoki locks
Isn't aoki just a diet inside heel hook?
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 16:10:47 UTC No. 223090
>>223084
It's a heel hook break but the grip classifies it as a straight ankle lock...sometimes
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 15:41:37 UTC No. 223181
Can a bicep slicer cause intense front shoulder pain? Few hours after training i had a really bad pain that lasted 2/3 days and that's the only thing that happened to that arm.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 16:09:46 UTC No. 223183
>>223181
Bursitis
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 16:23:57 UTC No. 223185
>>223181
Not as far as I know
Did you maybe break fall with that arm or overstress it in other ways? Sometimes that just happens and you need to give it a bit of rest
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 17:15:18 UTC No. 223187
>>223183
>>223185
Yeah probably it was just inflammation due to overuse, now it's gone i was just wondering what happened.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 17:32:40 UTC No. 223189
>>223187
It's probably nothing, but keep an eye on it just in case. If it becomes a recurring issue, consult a doctor because there might be something wrong
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:14:16 UTC No. 223204
>>220919
Masterbait before class
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:41:20 UTC No. 223207
>>223204
you have to become a master of baiting people in bjj
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:32:48 UTC No. 223277
>get into a shooting match drunk with two strangers
>think about fighting them
>the ground is concrete and there's two of them so a takedown is too risky
>decides to verbally deescalate and just go away
so anyways does bjj suck for self defense? in that situation bjj was worthless. should I just do boxing instead?
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:37:31 UTC No. 223278
>>223277
In that situation boxing would be worthless as well. If they have three brain cells between them, one's always on your back and there's not much you can do there
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 14:13:17 UTC No. 223282
wasn't there someone a few threads back saying they liked to goof off by doing aikido techniques?
https://youtu.be/j3_5vQKEaUk
seems like fun
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:34:09 UTC No. 223288
>>223277
>get into a shooting match drunk with two strangers
Dude if you've all got guns you don't need to worry about whether you're grappling or striking.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:37:06 UTC No. 223289
>>223282
That was something that occurred to me early on, I used to do aikido way back in the day. The most common complaint about any/all aikido techniques is
>Nobody's going to just walk up and grab your wrist in a real fight
Yet quite often, the first thing that happens when we start some BJJ sparring standing is that the other guy shuffles up and grabs my wrist.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:43:58 UTC No. 223313
>>223289
>Nobody's going to just walk up and grab your wrist in a real fight
>when we start some BJJ sparring standing
well yeah, bjj is not a real fight
i think the layman's most common reaction is to go for a collar grip and start punching from there if we're talking about fighting on da streetz
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:58:14 UTC No. 223314
>>223313
Or sucker punch. Many guys who like getting into bar fights have a good sucker punch. They get up in your face, witness check, and then lay you out.
Didn't some BJJ guy get ambushed in the parking lot by a guy with a knife and manage to disarm him fairly recently?
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:04:31 UTC No. 223315
>>223314
the guy didnt have a knife (i think) it was in new zealand
it was some schizo trying to rob someone.
I honestly think it was fake because the guy went out of his way to run into a coffee shop and everything and scream "I AM A 3rd degree BJJ black belt i dont need assistance"
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 02:51:32 UTC No. 223355
>>223315
>I honestly think it was fake
I agree, and don't forget handing his phone to someone telling them to record it instead of actually calling for assistance from the authorities himself
since he claims he was getting chased for several blocks
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 03:10:29 UTC No. 223358
>>223313
It's the most real fight I get into though. EAT THIS SANKYO NIGGA HIIIYAAAAA
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 05:02:20 UTC No. 223364
I have it on good authority that guillotines don't actually work and the only reason you're tapping is they hurt and you're being a pussy about it
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:06:28 UTC No. 223376
>>223364
>and the only reason you're tapping is they hurt
Is this not considered a legitimate reason to tap? I tap when I get ouchies. I don't like ouchies.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:50:19 UTC No. 223423
>>223366
>>223376
These are the false positives the gym environment gives you and then you do it against someone who doesn't care and you're left wondering what the deal is
Mason proved it, he said go ahead and put a guillotine on me and lock it up, It doesn't work
And it didn't hurt, he just cooked in there until the arms were tired enough to escape
The move is sold as a choke and it doesn't put people to sleep. It's a bad move
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:25:18 UTC No. 223443
>>223423
Theoretically all joint locks fall into that category too if we're talking about self-defense in non-consensual encounters. What if you put somebody in a joint lock but he doesn't know it's a lock and just keeps fighting? You going to break his arm? Go to court with him in a brace crying about cruelty?
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:26:05 UTC No. 223451
I've never worn a rash guard or done no gi. Usually just wear a t shirt under my gi.
Thinking about getting a rash guard.
I'm a medium with clothing. 6'1 and 78kg so I'm slim... would medium do me fine?
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:33:21 UTC No. 223452
>>223451
Always go one size up
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:39:54 UTC No. 223455
>>223443
I don't disagree with you, That's why jiujitsu for self defense is highly overrated
The circumstances in which a submission hold of some kind would even be appropriate are small
That's without yet factoring in causing someone pain increases their rage meter, If you're down there trying to break something realize you're also making the calculated risk to flood their body with more adrenaline and endorphins
So if you twist somebody's arm or their knee and have not completely mechanically destroyed it so it can no longer be used you may have just made the situation worse for yourself
A slight tear or dislocation is not going to cut it in this situation the way it would in a competition
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:07:04 UTC No. 223501
>>223500
It's simple, cancel your credit card and never go back
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:15:37 UTC No. 223507
>>223500
Congratulations on making brown belt
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 05:08:42 UTC No. 223513
this one time over 10 years ago at this point a guy shit himself and it's still talked about fairly regularly to this day, all these people that never even met the guy will eventually hear about him by name and the story of how he shit himself during class
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 07:05:54 UTC No. 223521
>>223517
Chael says there are probably 2-3 legitimate submissions per year in the UFC
Almost all of the taps you see are because the guy is tired and taking the cowards way out
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 07:28:37 UTC No. 223522
>>223521
>The move is sold as a choke and it doesn't put people to sleep. It's a bad move
Literally the first clip is someone being put out by a guillotine.
>Chael says there are probably 2-3 legitimate submissions per year in the UFC
Sonnen himself has won and lost by submission (including via guillotine). I'm not sure what your point here is.
>Almost all of the taps you see are because the guy is tired and taking the cowards way out
That's how a submission works: you tap because you're in pain and under the threat of either great physical harm or unconsciousness. Being tired plays into it, sure, but you have to admit that these guys are professional athletes with a lot of money and prestige on the line. They absolutely do not want to give up.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:52:35 UTC No. 223536
>>223066
americanized bjj is just gonna re-evolve into catch wrestling and it's already doing so with more and more people wanting to do no gi.
it's just japanese catch wrestling at this point since Jiu Jitsu cane from JJJ
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:56:45 UTC No. 223538
>>223536
and the fact that it's just revolving into catch wrestling is stupid considering how often bjj practicioners shit on other arts and boast about how bjj is ultimate
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:02:10 UTC No. 223539
>>223536
>>223538
Well, it is probably inevitable that Americans with American cultural legacies would trend back towards the wrestling style we invented for ourselves the first time. There's just something in the blood that makes us trend that direction. But it will be with a permanent mark from BJJ in the future.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:04:55 UTC No. 223543
>>223539
that shit already looks like a throw/taken down you'd see minus the choke.
Straight up body slamming someone like ushiro goshi or ura nage.
We're literally advancing backwards but with brazillians
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:03:59 UTC No. 223552
>>223522
Chael Sonnen never lost a fight mate.
>>223452
I'll have to get a second opinion
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:50:08 UTC No. 223562
>>223522
I won't admit anything, it only works if you're a pussy and anyone that did go unconscious did so because they quit first and stopped resisting
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:24:05 UTC No. 223566
>>223552
Go your own size, it's supposed to be tight.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 03:09:17 UTC No. 223606
>>221828
Sounds incredibly based, would train there. One of the best gyms I've ever trained at was basically a big garage with no AC, hot Tennessee summers with the windows and door open, 40 shirtless men fighting MMA. The mats would get so covered in sweat it was a giant slip and slide. Amazing times, one of my training partners from that gym is fighting in the UFC right now.
You sound like a big pussy though. You should ditch your stained pussy boy gi and go train that MMA or nogi class and maybe you'll man up and stop worrying about air conditioning and the sun.
Sincerely though, those gritty dingey gyms that have been around for 25 years always produce way better fighters than those clean florescent BJJ mcdojos that have sprung up in every strip mall near you in the last 5 years
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:33:17 UTC No. 223649
>>222887
This noob again,
what do you guys think about John Danaher as a coach and as someone to learn foundational BJJ from?
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 23:15:54 UTC No. 223654
>>223649
From what I've heard - very good instructor and will answer/help you if you ask him, but won't otherwise pay you much attention unless you're a promising competitor
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 23:39:52 UTC No. 223656
>>223649
He talks a lot and slowly, is his information good? Sure
Is it worth the time sink? I don't think so
Search his name in the link in the OP then watch at 2x speed with a note book
You're going into an academic lecture not a tutorial
>>223655
I don't know what high level movements he needs to do when coaching. All his stuff is really simple and he sits on the wall most of the time anyway
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 23:59:59 UTC No. 223658
>>223657
This is the American jiujitsu way, if we see someone acting gay or retarded we call him a gay retarded faggot
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 00:02:32 UTC No. 223660
>>223658
Based.
Big reason why I train with my instructor.
'Merica!
I went to visit another local gym ran by a Brazilian a few years ago. They were jogging around the mats for the warm up. He overheard someone say "retarded" and told him "we don't say that here" he doesn't have retarded kids so I don't know why he was being such a butthurt little faggot over it because the only people I know of who get butthurt over hearing the word retarded have retarded family members.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 07:34:27 UTC No. 223671
My favorite Danaher story: https://youtu.be/6sQb3lqXJEA
He could be the most talented jiu jitsu instructor and the biggest asshole ever, but I'm still never going to finish one of his instructionals simply because he is so tiring to listen to.
Brian Glick trained under John and I find that he manages to carry through the autistic detail without being as long-winded as John.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:39:14 UTC No. 223681
>>223536
>>223538
>americanized bjj is just gonna re-evolve into catch wrestling
No way BJJ-fags hate pinning.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 11:04:18 UTC No. 223682
>>223656
It's kinda hard to coach when you struggle with demonstrating a move
Is it possible that one of his students will step away from competing to take over as a coach (if under Danaher's supervision)?
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 16:11:20 UTC No. 223689
>>223656
I think his lectures about what is one trying to achieve tactically are quite fascinating, honestly.
>>223657
What did danaher actually say in that podcast anyways? I'm away reddit is throwing a fit but I don't see much value in going there as I thought.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 16:43:32 UTC No. 223690
>>223689
>What did danaher actually say in that podcast anyways?
The biggest take away is he was born in the US and only grew up in NZ so there's no denying that the new wave style is authentically American jiujitsu
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 20:44:20 UTC No. 223702
>>223689
Reddit is big mad because they don't think Jake Shields should have first amendment rights because he's not a left wing nut job.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 23:18:34 UTC No. 223729
>at judo
>bjj guys come to take some classes because they wanna improve standup
>that's cool, bjj is cool
>we go over a couple throws
>bjj guy: "Yeah but, how is this applicable in a street fight"
why are you guys like this?
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 00:34:29 UTC No. 223743
>>223681
Pins are coming back they are just different.
I think mount and taking the back is no different than a pin.
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 00:38:07 UTC No. 223744
>>223729
Consider, most BJJ guys don't want to improve their standup for competitions - most of their opponents will pull guard anyway. So their reason to learn Judo throws is more likely to be specifically for self defense
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 00:52:29 UTC No. 223745
>>223744
Man I have been practicing my standing up,
The amount of times people will just sit down instead of dealing with a collar tie is shocking.
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 04:23:48 UTC No. 223751
>>223729
What's more annoying to me is when BJJ guys think you're going to get your back taken and choked out the microsecond you show your back for a turn throw. This is in spite of the fact that turn throws are more popular in competition than ever before.
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 04:37:15 UTC No. 223752
I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna ask the instructor to give me a black belt
I'll say listen, I don't have a job and if you give me a black belt I'll be able to apply to work at a gym somewhere and have the ability to negotiate a better salary
and lets be honest, how much better am I really going to get? whether you give it to me now or in the future I'm not getting any better, I've gone as far as I can go, I'm out of my physical prime, it's all down hill from here
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:29:55 UTC No. 223824
The level of confirmation bias brainrot here is astonishing
https://youtu.be/zMKzrPreFxI?si=qai
BRO BJJ IS SO EFFECTIVE
gets knocked down
Gives a one liner you know he practiced in front of the mirror
Gets his face smashed in
Bounces his head off the ground
Tries to heel hook and it fails
Then apologizes and grovels while his girlfriend comes to rescue him
Everyone is like wow he let him off easy, he was so disciplined
Nigga what fight were you watching? He tried to finish it an couldn't then just bluffed until he got saved
Dude got fucked, didn't even get one hit in
Just take the L on this one guys instead of going "well he could've won if he wanted to, he just didn't want to"
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 01:00:41 UTC No. 223840
>>223824
>Then apologizes and grovels while his girlfriend comes to rescue him
God I wish that were me.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 01:34:12 UTC No. 223845
>>223824
>"well he could've won if he wanted to, he just didn't want to"
That is kind of the problem with it though, at a structural level. He had a joint he could ruin that could've ended the encounter quite quickly, but he felt the situation didn't warrant it, and the other guy wasn't necessarily aware that he should give up in that moment, so while it could've in theory been effective, in practice it wasn't. And it ended with him being put in that weird situation where he has to let the other guy go on the promise that he's going to be cool. Which I guess worked out in this case? But still risky.
I think the main takeaway is that you shouldn't train to break joints if you're not willing to break them when the time comes. Personally I think there's worse things you could do in life than ruin the leg or arm of a guy that starts bar fights, but a lot of people do hesitate when the moment comes.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 01:56:51 UTC No. 223849
>>223845
He literally tried though, they went through a full spiral and he couldn't finish it, The situation had not changed at all since he'd just tried to do it 2 seconds earlier aside from the realization perhaps that he couldn't finish it
The guy would just spiral again and this time maybe even get his leg free and knock him around some more
It's not like the other guy was backing down at all
This is actually a pretty good data point, Turns out heel hooks aren't the silver bullet people like to pretend they are
Or how they will baselessly claim wearing shoes makes a heel hook even more powerful because you can get a stronger bite on the leg. it seems more like since his foot is able to move around inside of the shoe which is actually the thing you have the bite on, you can't fully trap the toes and the torque bleeds out of the technique
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 05:59:15 UTC No. 223855
Coach says I’m making breakthroughs
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 06:54:47 UTC No. 223861
>>223824
i like how you guys post your own youtube channels here
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 06:57:57 UTC No. 223862
>>223855
that could mean so many things
you could be so close to it
or you could be so fuckin far it's not even funny
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 06:59:17 UTC No. 223863
>>223849
>This is actually a pretty good data point, Turns out heel hooks aren't the silver bullet people like to pretend they are
most things in martial arts arent silver bullets
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:20:47 UTC No. 223874
>>223849
>This is actually a pretty good data point, Turns out heel hooks aren't the silver bullet people like to pretend they are
Anyone who watched Hall vs Topuria and Le vs Tonon should've figured that out by now.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:04:07 UTC No. 223885
>>223729
>how is this applicable in a street fight
I have seen judo & wrestling get used WAY more in street fights than BJJ. How is it applicable? Skulls that bounce off concrete typically don't do so well, that's how.
>but muh gi/no gi
With a good enough grip/modified grip you can still almost all of judo.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:19:30 UTC No. 223888
BJJ alone is just going to get you killed in a real fight.
Getting stuck to your opponent is the worst thing you can do.
It's great to know how to escape, so worth pursuing, but if you want to defend yourself it should be considered supplementary.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:46:39 UTC No. 223890
>>223888
>should be considered supplementary
Trips of truth. Anywhere but combat sports, it is. It's applications are so niche & circumstantial. But because of the popularity it enjoys via sports, it has an endless font of copium spewing simps.
>muh grappling superiority
We are speaking specifically about BJJ. Grappling absolutely is, or could be, considered the lynch pin of any martial arts education. But throws/takedowns are infinitely more useful than any assortment of submissions.
>grappling that makes space & requires little investment
good
>grappling that sacrifices space & literally requires the most investment out of pretty much all martial arts techniques besides acrobatic shaolin shit
Bad. Also it's boring to watch.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:10:12 UTC No. 223891
>>223861
Lol you think I have a channel with 600k subs and I'd be on 4chan?
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:19:47 UTC No. 223892
>>220889
>writing like such a little bitch that I'll call you a faggot even though I agree with your point
Faggot.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:32:36 UTC No. 223893
>>223844
Yes my boyfriend is very happy.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:40:31 UTC No. 223903
>>223891
yes, but granted i am quite retarded
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:16:52 UTC No. 223905
>>223888
>>223890
BJJ is more fun as a hobby though since it doesn't require as much skull-rattling as taking strikes/getting thrown and the depth of technique keeps it engaging for a long time. If you're past the age where you'll ever get in a bar fight again it's a top-notch martial art.
But for self-defense; wrestling maybe? Which I guess judo is too.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:35:41 UTC No. 223907
>>223824
The problem is that guy could have literally done anything else but purposely tried to impress people with a fucking lock that he didnt wanna follow through with matter of fact - if he did follow through with popping his joints the cop wouldng be arresting the guy who punch because all he did was tapp his face a couple of times with weak punches.
Excessive force applies to citizens.
a simple pin would have been enough
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:51:41 UTC No. 223911
>>223905
It's a great sport, and it's useful to know in a fight for sure.
But if you stay attached to your opponent you risk getting double teamed or stabbed.
I'd argue judo combined with something that focuses on striking up close(for better integration) is the best option.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 22:08:49 UTC No. 223917
>>223907
I don't think those were weak punches at all, his head bounced off the ground and made a clunk sound
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:18:57 UTC No. 223921
I will always say Nogi Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai is enough of self defense.
A good teep kick and elbow can shut down a lot of people.
Your standing grappling will be good with sweeps and clinch work from both sports.
If you think it is bad because of guard pulling just don't pull guard.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 04:50:38 UTC No. 223932
It's happening, after all these years I finally did it
You start to wonder if this day would ever come and now it's here, the years of questioning if it's even worth it
But finally here we are, I've managed to use the power dynamic to get a beginner girl to go out with me
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:32:09 UTC No. 223945
>>223921
>Judo and BJJ so you land on the ground and get back off it with minimal injury
Kickboxing so you can punch, take a hit, and understand/appreciate how retarded kicking is if there's a risk of falling
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:49:07 UTC No. 223946
>got uchi mata-ed so hard and fast I somehow dislocated my ankle on impact
>it popped straight back in but has been swollen for 3 days.
well I guess I'll be watchin instructionals for the next 2-4 weeks off the mats.
FUCK
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 09:48:07 UTC No. 223948
Does anyone know of a good gym in Amsterdam? I'm looking for somewhere that has a heavy focus on no-gi, wrestling, and judo.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:28:23 UTC No. 223955
>>223946
Get a boot
Wear the boot
You learn new stuff when down a limb
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:51:59 UTC No. 223958
>>223932
They're easiest to tap right after they cum. Try hitting it from the back, you can slip right into the RNC.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:49:00 UTC No. 223980
>>223946
dont resist the throw when you're in it
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:58:00 UTC No. 223991
>>220879
I think I got Herpes Gladiatorum, when I started Jiu Jitsu I though the most permanent thing that would happen is a broken bone.
I kinda wish that happened or get Herpes, I am going to doc to see if it see.
I hope I am wrong.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:22:48 UTC No. 224027
>>223991
Report the gym to the local health department.
Purposely spreading herpes is a serious health violation dude. Place is about to be shut down
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:25:30 UTC No. 224029
>>224027
This is why you talk to your students about their past or health related issues to learn if they're even fit to do martial arts.
This is more than just a combat sport literally every other class someone fucking bleeds on me.
My gi has old blood stains all over it
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:42:23 UTC No. 224032
So, I went to a Gracie Barra gym to get started in BJJ, the atmosphere is ok, the instructors look very capable and people training there seem to be serious in training. But, guess what, I NEED to have a Gracie Barra GI to train there, they say it's because of "standardzation", but I went to look for it, and it's fuking expensive! Fuck the Gracies and their mafia, needing to buy stuff from them in order to be able to train is the ultimate bullshit there is
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:43:44 UTC No. 224033
>>224032
If it rankles you, you'll just have to find some other non-Gracie place to start.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:48:46 UTC No. 224034
>>224032
all of the problems in modern bjj stems from gracie schools doesnt matter if it's gracie barra, allegiance, humatia or renzo schools
>standardized gi
>calling instructor professor
>extreme excessive bowing
>cult mentality
>encouragement of street fighting, generally being an asshole and a bully
>spreading of germs
a lot of these schools are very old school and call back to brazillian day. They keep the AC off snd genuinely believe steam build up from body heat snd sweat will help sanitize the room.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:01:18 UTC No. 224035
>>224034
and the fact tbat nepotism is completely rampant in the sport doesnt help.
There's a chance a favorite student could train while on the recovery end of a cold or with herpes as stated earlier in the thread and risk spreading their sickness.
You can have a messy home and good hygiene by washing your gis and showering multiple times a days, washing your face etc. I remember some dude came to class smelling like complete shit and he was still allowed to train.
here's a good rule of thumb:
>if you have time to shower before class do so
>if you dont use wipies
>if you cant use wipies come to class smelling good
>if you cant come to class smelling good dont go to class
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:01:35 UTC No. 224036
>>224032
This is why I don't participate in the ibjjf or acknowledge the achievements of anybody that does
It's just a way for the gracies to make money by charging annual membership fees for both the academy and the individual athletes + an additional tournament fee
You might not go to a gracie school but you're going to pay them either way
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:09:42 UTC No. 224037
>>224033
It's still the best gym for me to train, but it would be better if there wasn't stuff like this
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:27:13 UTC No. 224041
>>223844
No my wife hates it when I over-under pressure pass her while fucking her.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:31:03 UTC No. 224042
>>223991
Don't touch your eyes when you have an itch/blisters and take Valtrex every day, should take care of it, I haven't had an episode in years with meds
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:39:23 UTC No. 224043
>>224041
>helicopter passing her while fucking
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:54:16 UTC No. 224044
>>224037
Yeah I got bilked the same way even though I've only attended the no-gi for years now.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:18:06 UTC No. 224047
it's time to start implementing drug tests, no weed smokers allowed
I'm so sick of these faggots spacing out and being a nescience to everyone
last night this one guy heel hooked me during a gi class and went oh shit dude sorry lol, I forgot
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 20:07:20 UTC No. 224048
>>224047
drug tests and background checks would probably close so many bjj schools down
so many black belts have been to prison
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:26:19 UTC No. 224049
>>224027
It was a few months back I put a pause on my membership since I thought it was just a bad case of athletes foot, but the fact the rash has not went away with 3 cans of Tinactin. So with google I saw a photo showing a similar cluster of blisters.
>>224042
I understand it is easy to deal with but I already have 4 permanent medical problems a 5th is just mentally horrible.
I would have preferred to just get my arm snapped since that can heal and I can forget about it.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:40:14 UTC No. 224050
>>224049
jesus fuck dude. If it's herpes out the name of the place. Dirty ass bjj places lets stds train. Literally a health violation in the sporting world to do that.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:43:46 UTC No. 224051
I have pretty persistent athletes foot, as soon as I stop using the spray it comes back
I think it's because I drink too much kombucha
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:52:03 UTC No. 224053
>>224050
I am getting a test at a clinic tomorrow if it is positive I am going to email the coach and permanently stop training there. I may stop Jiu-Jitsu permanently too but I don't want to think about quitting a sport I really enjoy, only a year into training.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:03:22 UTC No. 224054
>>224049
yeah cluster of little blisters is a herpes simplex for sure and it itches like a mosquito bite that never goes away
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:06:09 UTC No. 224056
>>224053
Tell them everything at the clinic man. If you're sexually active etc.
I assume you arent since you're saying you got it from bjj
if you email the professor you may have to tell him everything or who you think you may have contracted it from
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:08:13 UTC No. 224058
>>224056
and if you are im assuming you have sex with someone who doesnt have it or someshit idk
im retarded
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:08:27 UTC No. 224059
>>224053
Positive test or not, you probably have it, you can have a negative test and still have it, depends on how your viral load is and what stage it is in, I got tested towards the end of my last outbreak, my first and only test after having it for a VERY long time, and it was a "likely positive" not a for sure positive result.
What submission would you use on this succubus that blocks your path to the clinic?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:10:09 UTC No. 224060
>>224055
Lol i got hpv from a girl from joliet,, what's up with that place?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:10:41 UTC No. 224061
>>224055
Fuck I really hope your wrong, I just got my first strip and a permanent virus
>>224056
Your correct when I was training it was the first time I was physical touching other people in two years.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:13:40 UTC No. 224062
>>224059
>What sub?
None just keep passing her and then letting her reguard for the whole ten minute round.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:15:35 UTC No. 224064
>>224062
>10 minute edging session with extra steps
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:16:56 UTC No. 224065
>>224064
Yes
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:21:31 UTC No. 224066
>>224060
That's where she lives now but she's from Morris. Nothing to do there I guess?
>>224064
"Why can't I pass the closed guard?"
looks like she got rid of her instagram but still is on spacehey and tumblr
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:24:31 UTC No. 224067
>>224061
if you take meds for it you should be able to train still.
just gotta keep it in check to make sure you dont spread it
Kuma at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:45:20 UTC No. 224069
Fun idea: Turn BJJ from gay nohomo to actually gay by telling young gay men it's a great place to meet daddies.
Do this enough and the entire sport will be considered gayer than Turkishoilwrestling.
All the non-fag BJJ guys will transition to Judo.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:57:49 UTC No. 224072
>>224067
>>224071
Well damn,
Tbh I don't know why I see taking pill every day as such a horrible thing.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 00:04:59 UTC No. 224073
>>224069
why is gripping people by the butt hole an actual move in turkish oil wrestling dude
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 00:28:46 UTC No. 224074
>>224072
>Tbh I don't know why I see taking pill every day as such a horrible thing.
It's not the pill that's the problem it's that people who spread it go out and fuck or train when they know they have it and do it anyway, it's the betrayal of trust you have for someone as a training partner or spouse/girlfriend/hook up
gonna keep posting this hoe till she goes dark on all her socials and feelsbadman.jpg sadfrog in life
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 01:02:50 UTC No. 224077
>>224074
this
someone at your gym knew they had herpes and didnt medicate
if the head coach knew too then it's a health violation.
Shit can easily not be a health violation by taking a pill everyday that makes it non contractable
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 01:05:05 UTC No. 224078
>>224077
>someone at your gym knew they had herpes and didnt medicate
100%
There was a narrow window of time where I got it and didn't know 100% what it was but that was my 1st outbreak before I went to a doctor. I don't know how you can get this over and over again and not go hmm I should do something - you can't, you know you got it and you know when you shouldn't be messing with anyone where they can touch that area
also PSA you can self infect and you can get different types so you can have hsv1 and hsv2 and shingles all at the same time
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 01:24:37 UTC No. 224080
>>224078
I scratch my balls and get a few blisters there is that hsv2?
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 01:27:03 UTC No. 224081
>>224080
>blisters
Blisters are bad, if you have clusters of small blisters you need to see a doctor.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 01:36:23 UTC No. 224082
>>224081
It was in the past and my mom said blisters where just athletes foot and jock ick so I just used Tinactin which didn't work.
Heading to a doc tomorrow
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:26:33 UTC No. 224085
>>224082
>atheletes foot
on your face or on areas that dont get a lot of air flow?
like your feet or your cock and ball
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:27:33 UTC No. 224086
>>224085
because it should be impossible to get it on areas that get tons of air flow unless you have a sweating disorder or are constantly damp on your face
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:48:51 UTC No. 224089
what an unattractive skank, I'd swipe left before the profile even finished loading
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 03:21:03 UTC No. 224090
>>224085
The Blisters where only my feet and near my pubes.
I work in a kitchen and my shoes would not dry out over night some times, so I would wear damp shoes for like 8h straight.
So I really did think it was athletes foot but Tinactin has done nothing, So idk
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:52:40 UTC No. 224175
>>224069
>Oil checking is a legitimate trick
>Being shirtless is no negotiable
>It's a great honor to apply the oil to your opponent
A gayer sport does not exist
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 23:09:29 UTC No. 224177
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 05:23:34 UTC No. 224192
alright bros, she said yes to a date
I hope I don't screw it up
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 05:33:03 UTC No. 224193
>>224192
lmao if you told me when i was a kid in high school i was gonna get hereps then years later laugh about it with my bros online and they were going to joke about fucking the girl that gave it to me, i would say no fucking way you are crazy, wtf
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:41:00 UTC No. 224210
>>224177
literally
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 20:19:18 UTC No. 224226
>>224193
Life feels good man
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 14:47:49 UTC No. 224264
>>224245
I wonder what her role in this whole thing was.
Was she some sort of psycho that got him off his meds on purpose?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 16:12:08 UTC No. 224270
>>224264
>Was she some sort of psycho that got him off his meds on purpose?
what? a woman would never...