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Anonymous No. 217298

race you to the tawara edition

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Anonymous No. 217303

>>217298
Reminder

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Anonymous No. 217322

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Anonymous No. 217341

>>217331
Why didn't they fuck?

Anonymous No. 217356

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56GGgGaV7rs

Anonymous No. 217366

To be honest guys
it's depressing me that I will never get to be a yokozuna or perform a dohyo-iri

all because I was born in America and had never heard of sumo until I was too old to try it

it's like having a stillborn dream

Anonymous No. 217367

>>217366
The flipside of your dream Is having chronic back pain and dying of a heart attack at 60

Anonymous No. 217368

>>217367
Probably still accurate.

Anonymous No. 217370

>>217368
Nah my back is in good shape and and I'm in decent condition. Probably still die younger though since I'm 6'4".

Anonymous No. 217371

>>217370
I hope you do.

Anonymous No. 217372

>>217371
I hope they don't, just to cancel out yours.

Anonymous No. 217373

>>217372
Thanks bro

>>217371
Don't worry, manlet jealousy is just a fact of life for men like me, I don't take it personally

Anonymous No. 217376

>>217366
There are approximately 60 million Japanese men alive today. Only seven of them have worn that rope. The odds would have been against you, even if you were Japanese.

Anonymous No. 217377

>>217366
Technically you can be a yokozuna if you find one of the regional stone lifting competitions and win it. They use sumo ranks too, including yokozuna.

Anonymous No. 217381

>>217377
A fun idea. I could definitely do that. I used to compete in the highland games so it's right up my alley.

>>217376
Not to dox myself but I have set a couple strength records. I don't doubt my abilities.

Hell, if the JSA raised the max age to my current age I'd fly to Japan tomorrow.

Anonymous No. 217415

Asanoyama's comeback, does he win makushita?

Anonymous No. 217416

>>217415
Is he actually returning for the January basho? If he's been recovering well, it should be a 6-1 minimum, but I imagine some random MsTD schmuck will get a lucky win on him to deny the zensho-yusho.

Anonymous No. 217417

November 2025: Asanoyama makes it back to makuuchi and snaps chicken legs' ankle again

Anonymous No. 217418

>>217331
>"kimarite, uwatedashinage"

Anonymous No. 217422

>>217366
If you weren't a high level athlete in a sport growing up, it wasn't going to happen no matter where you were born

Anonymous No. 217424

>>217422
I dunno about that fellow, but in my youth I was the best foosball player this state has ever seen, I could easily have been yokozuna.

Anonymous No. 217425

>>217424
Haha, don't sweat it bro. The aspersions of the weak don't bother me, they never have. Frankly, it must be quite sad to have so little self confidence. I feel bad for you guys lol.

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Anonymous No. 217442

>>217425
It isn't normal or confident for a random American to think he could rise to the top of ozumo. It's the arrogance of an inflated ego. It's precisely that arrogance which has prevented you from being as successful as you think you could be. It doesn't matter how much weight you can lift or how loudly you shout that your detractors are just jealous of your power, if you can't muster up the strength to humble yourself then you'll forever look at men like a Yokozuna with envy.

Anonymous No. 217445

>>217442
You over value sumo their technical skills are so fucking bad they donā€™t understand what an under hook is on top of their other shit. Thereā€™s a reason why mongols dick whipped them for 20 years to the point they made a rule to stop foreigners from taking over their primitive grappling sport.

Anonymous No. 217447

>>217445
>their technical skills are so fucking bad they donā€™t understand what an under hook
For sandamne shitters sure, but anyone who makes yokozuna is at least competent at wrestling, including the oshi specialists.

Anonymous No. 217448

>>217447
>yeah but the highest rankers knows what they teach grade schoolers

Anonymous No. 217450

>>217445
>>217448
Stop exaggerating. You can see guys doing underhooks/overhooks at jonokuchi level. It's asinine to think guys who spend their whole lives wrestling can't figure out a concept universal to all grappling arts.

Anonymous No. 217460

>>217445
Cope.

Anonymous No. 217466

Weaklings mad lol

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Anonymous No. 217467

To be honest I thought you guys would commiserate because we all love sumo, but it seems the general self-opinion here is that you'd never make it, you'd never do anything of worth, you suck, and you're weak. Bros, I think that is just sad. Why be like this? Who would want to hang out with people like this?

I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.

Anonymous No. 217469

>>217467
Nabatame deserves to be demoted. He was the lowest rank in juryo and he had a losing record, so he should be reduced in rank accordingly. Its unfair to sumo fans and the the other rikishi to give him favoritism, he did nothing to earn a juryo rank so he shouldn't have one.

Anonymous No. 217471

>>217467
You look at top rikishis and think "I could do better than him". That's insulting to anyone who actually loves sumo.

Anonymous No. 217472

>>217471
That's not insulting at all. It's only insulting if you're a shitey little worm like you.

Anonymous No. 217474

To be honest guys
it's depressing me that I will never get to be a jonidan or get a 0-7 make-koshi

all because I was born in America and had never heard of sumo until I was too old to try it

it's like having a stillborn dream

>this is what losers actually think your aspirations should be like
Pathetic, truly. Pathetic. If this is your attitude, you're a fucking loser.

Anonymous No. 217482

>>217467
You are mentally ill. Please stop using the internet.

Anonymous No. 217484

>>217469
Lmao stay mad

>>217467
I think I could have easily made it to top 30 makushita. Everyone below that are certified shitters.

Anonymous No. 217498

>rikishi are technical
>proceeds to lose the next 20 years to wrestlers that know the basics
>dominated so bad they had to make a rule to stop getting shit on by foreigners
I love sumo but itā€™s such a shit grappling sport from a technical standpoint and if you disagree youā€™ve never put on a gi or been on a grappling mat. How can you dispute the whenever 4 of the top 10 greatest are foreigners and only 1 of the Japanese goats are recent the others are before the 90s.

Anonymous No. 217500

>>217498
>muh foreigner domination
There's plenty of foreign wrestlers who never make it past being maegashitters. Asashoryu and Hakuho are outliers.

>if you disagree youā€™ve never put on a gi or been on a grappling mat
post your belts, medals, and trophies

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Anonymous No. 217501

>>217500
>b-b-but muh outliers
>doesnā€™t win a title for a DECADE
>only started winning because they were forced to step up their grappling and the one foreigner rule so they could lessen the ass blasting

Sumo is a valid and technical grappling art btw

Anonymous No. 217502

>>217501
>didn't post rank
confirmed for never putting on a gi or been on a grappling mat

Anonymous No. 217520

>>217502
Grappling is for literal homosexual faggots

That's why rikishi aren't into it

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Anonymous No. 217521

>>217501

Anonymous No. 217524

Somehow...Chris has returned

Anonymous No. 217530

>>217501
Sumo isn't a "grappling art", sumo is sumo. The man who wins the title is the man who does the best sumo. The JSA doesn't care about your faggy martial arts, and nor do we.

Anonymous No. 217533

>>217524
He didnā€™t talk about kotozakura crazy how he can win a title and start a legit Yokozuna run but gets no flowers. If I was zak this would fire me up no partying just work and rest.

Anonymous No. 217540

>>217524
Did you think he was gone? You can see on his patreon he's constantly posting footage of 15 year old boys wrestling.

Anonymous No. 217546

>>217540
I would never go on patreon

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Anonymous No. 217557

恈?

Anonymous No. 217569

imagine 20 years into the future, hakuho and futagoyama both reach 65 years old and retire, hakuho has raised 4 yokozunas and a dozen ozekis, dominating sanyaku and taking how countless emperors cups, but futagoyama regardless having raised only one sekitori who peaked at m4, is far wealthier than hakuho because he put videos of rishiki farting on youtube

Anonymous No. 217571

>>217569
Two sekitori.

Anonymous No. 217573

>>217569
Old man Futagoyama isn't making it to 50, let alone 65.

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Anonymous No. 217574

Do yā€™all think zak had it rough growing up with his gramps who was from a rough and tougher time in sumo? I imagine his pops was rough too being trained by zakura I

Anonymous No. 217575

>>217571
1.5 sekitori

Anonymous No. 217576

>>217569
>hakuho has raised 4 yokozunas and a dozen ozekis
>Hakuho raising good prospects
lol
lmao
He got carried hard by Makushitter Tsukedashi candidates. Dudes like Isegahama run circles around Hakuho in the raising sekitori department.

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Anonymous No. 217582

>>217571
Soon to be 3 Mita will make it next year.

Anonymous No. 217583

>>217582
Mita won't make it, he is a midget. Smaller than Midorifuji.

Anonymous No. 217585

>>217583
He's only 2cm shorter than Ura

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Anonymous No. 217589

>>217298
>Schedule:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/year_schedule/

>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx

>All the sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d

>>213766

Unrelated, what are your hopes for sumo in 2025?

Anonymous No. 217590

>>217589
Having an actual yokozuna for more than one year would be pretty sick. I started following sumo for Aki 2020 and by then Hak+Kak were already one foot in the grave, and we only got about one good year out of Teru before his everything started shitting the bed too
I'd like to see nephew get the rope because I find is retarded shitheel antics enjoyable, but I'd settle for zACK or onosato

Man, remember when Kiri and wktkkg seemed like possible yokozuna candidates? A year ago somehow feels so far away...

Anonymous No. 217594

>>217590
The clown era hasn't peaked yet. The next Yokozuna will spend a year jobbing to rankers.

Anonymous No. 217597

>>217594
mortal lock guarantee onosato is 9-6 the basho after he gets the rope

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Anonymous No. 217603

>>217589
>Unrelated, what are your hopes for sumo in 2025?
At least one new yokozuna by the time they get to London. I think Hakkaku is hoping for that too.

Anonymous No. 217607

Sumo stable rankings (unofficial)
1. Iseghama - Yokozuka + 6 overall in makuuchi, undoubtedly the top stable
2. Oitekaze - 6 sekitori, sekiwake highest
3. Kise - 6 sekitori, most in juryo
4 Sadogatake - ozeki + 1 in makuuchi and another in juryo
5. Arashio - 2 in sanyaku + ching chong juryo
6. Takadagawa - 2 M13s + 2 in juryo
7. Tatsunami - ozeki + 1 in makuuchi
8. Nishonoseki - ozeki + 1 in juryo
9. Tokitsukaze - 2 in makuuchi + chaos magik
10. Sakaigawa - 2 in makuuchi
11.Hakkaku - 1 in makuuchi, soon to be 2
12. Kataonami - 1 eternally in makuuchi, another about to make a brief appearance before heading back down to juryo
13. Hanaregoma - 1 in makuuchi, 1 in juryo
14. Isenoumi - 1 in makuuchi, 1 in lower juryo
15. Onomatsu - 1 in lower makuuchi, 1 in lower juryo
16. Fujishima - 1 in makuuchi (but its bushozan), 1 in juryo
17. Nakamura - 2 in upper juryo
18. Shikoroyama - 1 Abi
19. Tokiwayama - 1 Takanosho, 1 former ozeki
20. Futagoyama - 1 in makuuchi, 1 dingleberry dangling off the absolute ass end of juryo
21. Kokonoe - somehow manages to have 1 in makuuchi & 1 in juryo and still be worse than Futagoyama
22. Ikazuchi - 1 Shishi


how good is this ordering and which did I get in the wrong order?

Anonymous No. 217608

>>217607
Ajigawa unaccounted for. Naruto unaccounted for. I don't want to be that guy, but did you consider the potential sekitori within those stables or are you just counting the current ones?

Anonymous No. 217609

>>217607
>>217608
Also it's missing Kasugano.

Anonymous No. 217612

>>217546
It took me two seconds to get from his channel to his patreon when you started posting the "Chris is dead" stuff.

Anonymous No. 217613

>>217586
>while you were failing to fuck hostesses due to your gut fat, I was studying the blade

Anonymous No. 217619

>>217607
Tamanoi? You missed quite a few heya, fren

Anonymous No. 217620

>>217589
>what are your hopes for sumo in 2025?
A world tour so I can go grab some autographs on real hand prints.

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Anonymous No. 217621

>>217589
>what are your hopes for sumo in 2025?
The return of Shunjuen

Anonymous No. 217622

>>217589
The gay boyfriends match fixing scandal. It's only a matter of time in such a homoerotically charged environment.

Anonymous No. 217626

The beya system is an embarressment. Imagine being 30y old and having to share a giant room with 18y olds just because you're in makushita.
You obviously can't have a girlfriend in this environment, have to entertain their juvenile speech, have to do chores for a 20y old just because he's juryo...

Name one other sport where an athlete's professional life is just one never ending bootcamp.

Anonymous No. 217628

>>217607
Better to put them in tiers, I think.
Those stables with one sekitori and a dozen shitters are all basically equal.

Also, you missed a bunch of stables.

Anonymous No. 217635

>>217626
Git gud

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Anonymous No. 217636

>>217607
>No Dewanoumi

Anonymous No. 217641

>>217590
Wtk was never going to make ozeki let alone yokozuna

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Anonymous No. 217646

>>217626
You do realise you can just retire from sumo whenever you like, don't you? Nobody is forcing those 30 year old perma-jobbers to hang around with teenagers or do chores. Of course, when they do quit, whether that be at 25 or at 45, they'll have to work awful low-paid jobs and live lonely lives in tiny apartments. They can't and won't suddenly stop being losers. For many men like this, life in a stable, with all its drawbacks, is an infinitely warmer, happier, and more appealing prospect than life on the outside. They've been there since they were 15 - they're completely institutionalised.

Anonymous No. 217647

>>217646
if their stable has a good supporters club then they end up with pretty good jobs

Anonymous No. 217649

>>217626
Itā€™s hard for zoomies to understand but some people are not afraid of working. They donā€™t want to sit alone in their goon cave and jerk off to tranny porn all day.

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Anonymous No. 217651

>>217642

Anonymous No. 217652

>>217647
>if
Look at that abortive attempt at a stable rankings list above. Sure, if you're in a prestigious and well-connected stable, someone might take pity on you and pull the relevant strings. But there's only ever so many chanko restaurants waiting for a middle-aged loser to run them at any given time, and if your oyakata has failed not only in turning you into a competent wrestler, but also in introducing you to a proper network of contacts, you're shit out of luck.

Anonymous No. 217674

>>217646
>>217652
There's a reason they tell everyone that sumo is a way of life, and not a sport.

Anonymous No. 217678

>>217619
>Tamanoi
not a real stable, having 1 shitter in juryo doesn't make the grade

Anonymous No. 217701

Who are going to be the protagonists of the 2025 season?

Anonymous No. 217716

>>217651
They were working him hard

Anonymous No. 217717

>>217621
lmao like that'll ever happen

Anonymous No. 217738

a new ep of doskoi sumo salon has been dubbed

Anonymous No. 217739

>>217738
Sugoi

Anonymous No. 217745

https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/mica-collection-mica-ertegun-new-york-online/utagawa-kunisada-1786-1864-1245/238241?ldp_breadcrumb=back

Anonymous No. 217746

>>217701
Whoever gets the rope first

Anonymous No. 217755

>>217717
The Return is coming

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Anonymous No. 217769

>>217586
Ura of the Shining Peace will spearhead the glorious return to his native Osaka Sumo until our demands are met

Anonymous No. 217774

>>217701
Kotozakura is already the protagonist of sumo

Anonymous No. 217783

I promise that I won't job in January, /sumo;

Anonymous No. 217784

>>217783
Ganbare!

Anonymous No. 217785

>>217783
I don't believe you, Onokatsu

Anonymous No. 217796

>>217746
vertical or horizontal?

Anonymous No. 217806

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp4nU5CJstY

Anonymous No. 217830

Onosho has retired.

Anonymous No. 217832

>>217830
Man, gonna miss him. He was usually good for an exciting fight.

Anonymous No. 217835

>>217832
Damn that sucks he was undersized but had that fucking dawg in him

Anonymous No. 217841

>>217830
Thats a shame. Loved his victory over Hakuho during the first covid tournament.

Anonymous No. 217843

onoshover

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Anonymous No. 217844

RIP

Anonymous No. 217858

>>217844
Christ walking amongst the masses

Anonymous No. 217881

>>217701
I hope someone will get a jump in skill like Kiribayama did a couple of years ago and start a ozeki run. Could be Kotoshoho, or Gonoyama.

Anonymous No. 217882

>>217881
It might be time for kotoshoho to take a jump in skill but we donā€™t know the extent of his knee injuries for some reason it seems to bother him every other tournament. Zak had a knee problem but has recovered spectacularly despite being way heavier.

Anonymous No. 217895

>>217881
Could be Oho. He's still quite young and he's been able to survive in the joi all year, more or less.

Anonymous No. 217900

>>217895
I want to believe in Oho and the genetics of Taiho, but I don't know. The guy doesn't inspire anything. Yeah it was pretty cool to fight through the broken orbital in the basho before last, but the last one was a total wet fart.

Anonymous No. 217902

>>217881
Abi will be ozeki

Anonymous No. 217904

>>217900
>Yeah it was pretty cool to fight through the broken orbital in the basho before last
That was the moment it hit me that he just might actually have what it takes. He was still headbutting dudes afterwards. He didn't used to look like he cared about winning very much.

He's a slow learner, to be sure, but he is improving. Compare footage of him this year to last and he's hitting much harder on the tachi-ai, he's driving people back. Even with his soft body you can visibly see he's started hitting the weights more.
He needs to refine his tactics more and his footwork is getting better, but it's not anything close to Wakamotoharu or Kotozakura's.

>but the last one was a total wet fart.
True but, on the whole, he spent the last five basho in the joi and basically went .500, so he clearly belongs. If he can put the last finishing touches on his sumo, with his durability, he could be a force to be reckoned with for years. Naturally, of course, those last steps to go from "really good" to "great" are the very hardest to achieve, but he's right there.

Anonymous No. 217918

>>217881
>Kotojobber getting a jump in skill.
No. It's going to be Shishi

Anonymous No. 217922

>>217904
What you said about "caring about winning" is by far the biggest issue for a lot of otherwise incredibly promising men. I see far too many matches where someone gives up and stops resisting before even touching the tawara, and too many big strong boys that seemingly don't want to hurt their opponents too much, and they lose as a result of that. As somewhat of a gentle giant myself, I understand where they're coming from, but at the same time, they're professional fighters and they're doing themselves and their fans a disservice. I want to see them fighting like they genuinely hate each other.

Anonymous No. 217927

>>217922
This is actually kind of the modern era, the "sportsmanship era". In like the 1980s the wrestlers weren't routinely giving each other a hand up on the dohyo, checking that the other guy is OK, and so on. They would just shove the fuck out of each other and go to their side to wait for the gyoji's announcement.

Anonymous No. 217939

>>217881
Wakataka will make an ozeki run starting from March (January won't be good for him), and then explode his knee again.

Anonymous No. 217955

>>217939
WakatakakACK

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Anonymous No. 217959

>>217958
never seen the crowd smile like that and it had to be to a serius beef

Anonymous No. 217961

>>217958
>Kisenos-ACKto
this was actually humiliating

Anonymous No. 217975

>>217958
What on earth was he thinking? Kisenosato was an excellent wrestler and fully capable of going toe to toe with the big boss man on a good day, and putting up a reasonable fight even on a bad day.

Anonymous No. 217976

Is sumodb dead?

Anonymous No. 217981

>>217958
Hakuho was fucking a prick. Thank God he's the GOAT, putting up with 20 years of this bullshit would be painful otherwise.

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Anonymous No. 217997

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMw2it8dQY

Anonymous No. 218000

>>217981
He didn't start that way. He was pretty respectful of his opponents during a fair portion of his yokozuna career.
Imagine that you are the top guy, and everyone has a chip on their shoulder when they fight you. It gets tiresome when its as lopsided as 45-16

Anonymous No. 218005

>>218000
There was more to it too, I wrote a post on it a while ago, you can probably still find it in the old threads

I'll take a look too

Anonymous No. 218006

>>218005
the thread it was in is dead
alas

Anonymous No. 218007

>>218006
Archives are up for xs. its slow enough that finding the sumo threads are easy if you remember where

Anonymous No. 218009

>>218000
I do remember reading that he was considered a good boy compared to Asashoryu.

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Anonymous No. 218010

>nerdy homely sumo fangirls

dibs on right

Anonymous No. 218011

>>218010
nevermind right has a kid, I'm switching my dibs to middle

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Anonymous No. 218012

Koga is already worse than Kikuchi, how is that even possible? He has lost a million times against Kikuchi in the last video and that taking into account that Kikuchi is a baby with no fighting spirit leaves Koga as a useless fighter with no talent.

Anonymous No. 218013

>>217922
>>217927
I also think it's more they sometimes don't know when to turn the "sportsmanship mode" off and on. Like it's fine to want to see if the guy is okay once you knock him off the dohyo but if he is still within the in the ring, you should be wanting to fling his ass into the upper part of the stands.

>I see far too many matches where someone gives up and stops resisting before even touching the tawara
In fairness, I think it's also because they want to keep a sense of control if they fall off and don't want to fuck themselves up with a bad tumble.

Anonymous No. 218014

>>218010
I feel like I recognise the girl in the middle - is this just a case of dey arr rook same or is she someone notable?

Anonymous No. 218015

>>218014
She does the MC'ing during the Q&A bit later so she must be employed by or related to the stable somehow

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Anonymous No. 218022

>>218005
>>218006
NTA, just curious on this topic.

Anonymous No. 218023

>>217976
It'll be back by next basho.

Anonymous No. 218041

>>218022
Those old bastards are so finicky
One of these days they should actually make a gyoji commit seppuku in the dohyo

Anonymous No. 218057

>kotozakura vows to make Yokozuna soon for Kitanofuji
Yeah heā€™s the mc

Anonymous No. 218062

>>218057
Kotozakura will usher in a new year and a new era for sumo. No longer will we have four or five clown bashos a year, no more will we see the san'yaku embarrass themselves, no more will we wait in vain for some real sumo. Count the days, it begins.

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Anonymous No. 218073

>>218057
That's a lot of extra pressure to perform in January

To be honest I have no faith in Zak although I would like it if he succeeded
I just don't think he will
Hosh is going to come out gunning
and you know Onosato is going to be on point, so will Takerufuji
AND the Yokozuna is coming back

Whoever wins January is going to be Yokozuna tier

Anonymous No. 218074

>>218073
>Whoever wins January is going to be Yokozuna tier
Watch it be another M17 yusho.

Anonymous No. 218076

>>218073
Takerufuji's girl feet won't last though 15 days of high level competition. He is a career mid tier makuuchi wrestler, on par with someone like Shonannoumi who starts getting MKs when they get single digit ranks

Anonymous No. 218077

>>218073
Onosato will a non factor he canā€™t beat a on game nephew or Zak it took them at their lowest the basho before to beat them

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Anonymous No. 218078

Onosato's right arm out left arm block has been figured out, it's over

Anonymous No. 218087

Banzuke is out.
>https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

Anonymous No. 218088

>>218087
>Tamashoho M16
Good for him

Anonymous No. 218089

>>218087
This looks like a Tsurugisho juryo yusho, I can feel it in my blood.

Anonymous No. 218090

>>218087
I just noticed that sandanme got cut from 100 to 80 ranks.

Anonymous No. 218091

Aonishiki and Shishi bout confirmed for week 1

Anonymous No. 218092

how do i into sumo? i want to talk about sumo and watch sumo and understand it

Anonymous No. 218093

>>218092
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d
Use the links here, has everything from streaming (provided it hasn't been terminated by the NHK ninjas) to sumo culture. Tournaments start on the second Sunday of every odd month and last for fifteen days.

Anonymous No. 218102

>>218092
Expressing any sign of interest in sumo already makes you one of the most devoted sumo fans outside of Japan. The rest happens organically - this time next year you'll have forgotten what life was like before you became a sumo fan.

Anonymous No. 218112

>nabatame promoted on a losing record
gay

Anonymous No. 218117

>>218112
Unless you meant to complain about him not being demoted for a losing record, his rank is still the same, Juryo 14 East.

Anonymous No. 218125

>>218089
Tsurugisho is the J3w this time

Anonymous No. 218126

Gonna be interesting to see if Aoishiki can keep on cranking out the KKs now that he is surrounded by a bunch of former makuuchi guys. No more free wins for him from bottom of the division sissies like like Nabatame this time. Nearly everyone he faces is going to outweigh him by at least 20kg and they're nearly all savvy vets.

Anonymous No. 218128

>>218126
I feel like everytime this is mentioned, he manages to find a solid KK; but I feel like this basho may be the one to actually slow him down.

Anonymous No. 218131

>>218128
I keep on wonder if or to what extent Aminishiki has taught him the extensive bag of techniques he employed. If Aonishiki's ability is limited to 'stay low, be strong and push' then he might be out of luck this time around, if he starts whipping out some of Aminishiki's old tricks then he might be able to overcome the size and experience differential he is facing.

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Anonymous No. 218135

>>218092
The next tournament is on January 12. Watch some matches, pick a guy whose style you like, and follow along.

Here are the highlights from the last tournament to get you started:
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/

Anonymous No. 218144

>Hakuoho back in makuuchi
Do people care about him anymore ?

Anonymous No. 218145

>>218144
Hakuowho?

Anonymous No. 218146

>>218144
I care. I think he'll be a fascinating case study of heya influence on rikishi.
If Hakuouhou were to turn back into a wrecking ball the moment he and Hakuhou get out of Isegahamabeya, wouldn't that demonstrate that different approaches to training benefit different rikishi, and evince a need for the possibility of changing heya?

Anonymous No. 218148

>>218144
I do he has amazing technique for his size if only his body could hold it together

Anonymous No. 218155

>>218144
I do, here's hoping he stays up there too.

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Anonymous No. 218156

Chris says that Teru is officially going to be competing in January
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MW6Fnn7P-k

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Anonymous No. 218168

>>218135
What is gigachad doing there?

Anonymous No. 218169

>>218168
Enjoying some sumo, like all chads do.

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Anonymous No. 218171

>>218169
They even made him Shimpan

Anonymous No. 218189

>>218156
>Chris says
Terunofuji has made no such declaration. In other words, he's saying that Terunofuji is in because Terunofuji would have to say something if he were out and he hasn't, meaning he has no news to share.

Anonymous No. 218192

>>218171
They made him Yokozuna.

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>>217958
This is why Hakuho is the GOAT.
>Kisenosato mata's to try to disrupt Hakuho
>Hakuho knows the game and pretends to be angry
>Kisenosato mata's again to try and make Hakuho even more angry and throw him off his game
>Hakuho plays along and acts furious
>Kisenosato launches off the tachiai expecting Hakuho to attack him furiously
>Hakuho henka's and laughs
The GOAT won this match before the tachiai. The mental aspect of sumo is something that most don't understand or even take into consideration.

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Anonymous No. 218203

>>218088
>>Tamashoho M16
I like his hustle.

Anonymous No. 218204

>>218200
Takakeisho going full bald would be pretty funny imo

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Anonymous No. 218205

>>218092
For you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cN9snHWCRA

Check out sumopedia: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/sumopedia/

Watch the basho. It won't take long for you to get in the groove. Sumo is one of the best combat sports in the world.

Anonymous No. 218206

>>218135
Great match!

Anonymous No. 218211

>>218156
Even Chris does not say that.

Anonymous No. 218279

>>218211
Chris says, I believe it, that settles it

Anonymous No. 218291

Merry Gripsmas, ya filthy animals!

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Anonymous No. 218324

Merry Merry

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Anonymous No. 218332

Merry Sumo.

Anonymous No. 218352

惔ćƒŖćƒ¼ć‚ÆćƒŖć‚¹ćƒžć‚¹ć€ē›øę’²ä»²é–“ćŸć”

Anonymous No. 218358

Red alert, Futagoyama-chads, those bastards at Tatsunami have launched a Youtube channel named "Sumo food - Tatsunami Beya". We need to figure out what our response should be before they gain traction.

Anonymous No. 218369

>>218358
whoever wins the most matches in the next basho keeps the name

Anonymous No. 218371

>>218358
I was just watching their video
impressive how thoroughly they copied Futagoyama's content structure
but that's not a bad thing

Anonymous No. 218374

>>218371
In 2030, new sumo fans will argue over the superiority between Sumo food - Tatsunami Beya or Sumo food - Futagoyama Beya.

Anonymous No. 218375

>>218374
In 2030, only one will have a yokozuna on the channel. No one will be arguing.

Anonymous No. 218376

>>218375
In that case, I look forward to Sumo food - Ajigawa Beya.

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Anonymous No. 218385

Merry Christmas from the biggest koto supporter

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>>217331

Anonymous No. 218405

>>218375
Koga will be a force to be reckoned with, I agree. The 2025 growth spurt will be ridiculous.

Anonymous No. 218406

>Onosho retired
oh maaaaaan... i always enjoy his cross-arm tachiai. i remember i was so bummed about it when he stopped doing it

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Anonymous No. 218407

Kyokutaisei intai

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>>218358
thanks for the tip

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>>218407

Anonymous No. 218413

I watched that Tatsunami and its way better than Futagoyama. Meisei & Kiriyuko are a much more dynamic pair of leads than Yoga & Nabatame are

Anonymous No. 218418

>>218413
Behead those who insult Futagoyama

Anonymous No. 218422

>>218406
>i remember i was so bummed about it when he stopped doing it
He must have been yelled by his coaches at for that.

Even my wife watching asked
>Doesn't that kind of give away his timing completely and let the other guy get just enough of a jump to where they wont call a false start?

Anonymous No. 218426

I think I'd go crazy trying to watch sumo in person because of how long it takes to set up each match

Anonymous No. 218427

>>218426
between matches is when you review stats and shitpost to the /sp/ thread
I also do a set of pushups squats or situps between each match, but you couldn't do that watching in live in nippon

Anonymous No. 218431

>>218427
>gaijin doing bodyweight squats in one of the ring seats between matches
Tbh I'd love to see this on camera, complete with the baffled commentary, I think you should do it, no such thing as can't

Anonymous No. 218435

>>218426
I'd finger my japanese gf during downtime

Anonymous No. 218436

>>218427
>I also do a set of pushups squats or situps between each match

>no shiko
do you even /sumo/?

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Anonymous No. 218439

>I'll try a henka
>nothing beats a henkACK

Anonymous No. 218440

I got people in my jiujitsu class to do sumo with me
We make a circle with 4 belts

At first nobody wants to do it but once they try they get addicted

Anonymous No. 218443

>>218439
>fans would rather watch two fat fucks smash into each other than this high octane technique filled match

Anonymous No. 218444

>>218443
if it can't beat a fat fuck then your octane isn't worth shit

Anonymous No. 218445

>>218444
>beat the fat fuck but with specialized rules favoring the fat fuck
Shut your fatass up

Anonymous No. 218446

>>218439
What does "Jun Sumo" mean in the filename?

Anonymous No. 218447

>>218446
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanami_Jun

Anonymous No. 218448

>>218447
Ah. Thanks.

Anonymous No. 218450

>>218426
zoom zoom

Anonymous No. 218452

>>218443
fat fucks can also have high octane technique filled matches

Anonymous No. 218453

>>218452
They can but most of them are wins from either falling over like retards or until one side gives up and gets tired

Anonymous No. 218454

This again?

Anonymous No. 218456

>>218445
>specialized rules favoring the fat fuck
yeah it's called sumo, you sure you're watching the right sport?

Anonymous No. 218461

Why don't you just watch Ssireum, other folk-wrestling or even amateur sumo if you care so much about weight impeding on your ability to enjoy sumo? You're complaining about this as if it's going to change at any meaningful moment during your lifetime even though you should know it's not.

Anonymous No. 218463

>>218456
Whatever you fat retard you act like being big and fat is a skill when 99% itā€™s not and will lead to getting youā€™re ass beat in anything other than sumo.
>>218461
I still enjoy sumo but you canā€™t deny the old days of sumo were way more technical because there werenā€™t 200 kg land whales in the sport

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Anonymous No. 218464

>IT'S NOT A FUCKING SPORT!!!!

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>>218464
>erm actually hakuho nagoya 2021 day 15 poster, the nsk's public business plan report doesn't reject the notion that sumo is a competitive sport, but rather acknowledges it as an another aspect of sumo's current purpose

Anonymous No. 218468

>>217298
Ok

Anonymous No. 218469

>>218463
This old lie again? There have always been big, beefy wrestlers alongside smaller, more ripped wrestlers. It's a metagame that constantly shifts, depending on the talent available and the specific rules at the time. Sumo is absolutely dependent on individual performance, so each individual will strive to have the physique and the tactics that will give him the best results. If that means gaining or losing weight, that's what he's going to do. It doesn't matter if he looks ugly or if he wouldn't do well in MMA, the only thing that matters is getting his wins on the dohyo.

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Anonymous No. 218470

>oh boy another manlet fighter
>only managed 4 kk in joi in his whole career
soo exciting

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Anonymous No. 218471

>>218470
Uh...

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>>218471
>m8 clown basho win
Yes, and? I already know

Anonymous No. 218474

>>218472
The clown is you.

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Anonymous No. 218475

Didn't fight either ozeki or the komusubi in the running, only fought two sanyaku that were borderline between kk and mk, and finished the last day with an 8-6 m1. M8 would be like m11-m13 on todays basho with how top heavy it was in 1968
Yes, his win was peak clown basho. Even tokushoryu fought a guy in the hunt and an ozeki for the last two says3

Anonymous No. 218476

>>218475
Forget that he went 2-13 at komusubi in the next tournament
kwab

Anonymous No. 218477

>>218476
How many cups do you have?

Anonymous No. 218478

>>218477
15 in my cupboard.

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Anonymous No. 218482

The japs really jumped the gun naming this the ono-takeru era have the made a name for the zakura-ryu era?

Anonymous No. 218483

>>218482
This dope gets it together for one basho and you think they're gonna name an era after him?

Anonymous No. 218484

ex-Kotoshogiku has his beya's youtube channel now as well.

youtube.com/@hidenoyama

Anonymous No. 218485

>>218483
He put a mf stamp on this year with the most wins it was only a matter of time and I think two years ago he had the 2nd most after wtk. We are witnessing the rise of the second bull of the dahyo!

Anonymous No. 218486

>>218485
He had one more win than Onosato and one less yusho.

There is no world in which a single bout win is better than a yusho.

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Anonymous No. 218488

>>218486

Anonymous No. 218492

>>218488
Very cool match but quite a far cry from Zak's slipiotoshi win over Hosh

Anonymous No. 218493

>>218492
You have no heart.

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Anonymous No. 218494

>>218493

Anonymous No. 218500

If being fat was that much of an advantage then Dewanojo would be a Yokozuna right now

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Anonymous No. 218503

>>218500
Now I have an excuse to post Asanowaka being a cheeky fuck.

Anonymous No. 218507

>>218500
If being fat was that much of an advantage then Gagamaru would've been better than Tochinoshin

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Anonymous No. 218524

Tatsunami has backed down, fearing the wrath of Futagoyama's legion of loyal soldiers. The channel is now called "The Tatsunami Stable - Sumo Foods".

Anonymous No. 218525

>>218524
Futagoyama is yokozuna of sumo channels, shitters need to know their place

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>>218525

Anonymous No. 218528

>>218527
S U M O K I N O

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>>218500

Anonymous No. 218535

>>218534
Goodbye MCL

Anonymous No. 218539

>>218534
4 PM already?!

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Anonymous No. 218542

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqKPWO5T4o

Anonymous No. 218543

>>218542
A classy and very public display of power. On this day, Futagoyama reminded everyone who's in charge.

Anonymous No. 218546

>>218543
Yes, Roga.

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Anonymous No. 218561

daily reminder Chris fans are mentally ill, you can't get much of a dicksucker than this, just why? Chris is absolutely irrelevant to the sumo world, he literally just reads japanese newspapers and turns them into videos for youtube for gaijin
Also
>they have had my business card for the past 3 years.
what a fucking cuck kek, based Hiro for ignoring this faggot.

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>>218561
>>they have had my business card for the past 3 years.
>where the JSA keeps Chris' business card

Anonymous No. 218571

>>218561
>His username is Chrissumo69
I don't know, I'm starting to warm to the guy.

Anonymous No. 218572

>>218561
Chris-chan Sumochu is a precious treasure to the sumo world. We'll miss him when he's gone.

Anonymous No. 218574

>>218572
Maybe he could hurry up and disappear so we can start missing him already.

Anonymous No. 218586

>>218572
Chris should stop with all this fucking sumo shit and get back to what he does best: histories of the 1960s Batman television series

Anonymous No. 218589

>>218524
what do you mean now? it's been called like that since anons posted it >>218358 and >>218408

Anonymous No. 218591

>>218524
>Tatsunami has backed down
Tatsunami has already vastly exceeded Futagoyama's channel. That scene at the end of Tatsunami's video where Hoshoryu rode in on his horse and said "Hey guys I just got back from raiding the neighboring village, I captured this Bactrian camel" and then sliced off one of the camel's humps and started eating it will never be topped by Futagoyama. Roga's "one time my mom served me wolf instead of the usual hot pockets" story is the best Futagoyama will ever do and Tatsunami already one upped it on their first video.

Anonymous No. 218610

>>218591
Kise still mogs. Who can forget the time they gave us a tour of Higohikari's ear collection?

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Anonymous No. 218618

TWO (2) weeks until the next basho!

Don't forget to get your kachiclash picks in

Anonymous No. 218619

>>218618
Can't wait.

Anonymous No. 218620

>>218618
The name Nabatame will soon be synonymous with make koshi.

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Anonymous No. 218621

>>218620
he was so bashful about it in the last video, I can't shit on him anymore
I have faith that Nabatame will get a kachi-koshi this time

Anonymous No. 218623

>>218620
Nabatame is just taking it easy. He doesn't feel like being an Ozeki, yet.

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Anonymous No. 218701

rip sumo, 23 BC - 2024 AD

Anonymous No. 218702

Huh?

Anonymous No. 218704

>>218702
no posts in over 24 hours, sumo has perished

Anonymous No. 218705

>>218704
It's not dead. It's just away on jungyo.

Anonymous No. 218707

there's no jungyou, it's year-end.

Anonymous No. 218710

>>217298
We will have three Yokozuna by this time come december 2025. It is inevitable.

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Anonymous No. 218723

Who are you guys taking? I feel pretty confident about all of these picks EXCEPT the maegashira 6 to 10 slot. None of those guys really feel like winners to me.

Anonymous No. 218726

>>218704
There is nothing left to talk about its time for kotozakura and hosh to show us they want the horizontal rope

Anonymous No. 218727

>>218710
It's all well and good to predict that the current leaders of the pack will make it to Yokozuna - all they have to do is continue to be better than everyone else and at least one of them is guaranteed to make it. But if we have three Yokozuna next December, who takes their places in san'yaku? The joi is a revolving door for jobbers at the moment, and the low end of the division is all over the place.

Anonymous No. 218729

>>218727
Lower sanyaku is always all over the place. It's rare that someone stays there for extended periods of time without either being good enough to make ozeki or slipping up and going back to maegashira after a single losing score. Guys like Mitakeumi are outliers.

Anonymous No. 218730

>>218729
I can't see any Ozeki on the banzuke aside from the lads that are already there. Maybe 2025 will be a mega clown year, and we'll have three Yokozuna and no Ozeki.

Anonymous No. 218731

>>218730
Wouldn't be the first time.

Anonymous No. 218734

Takanosho seems to be in a oscillation mode between M6 double digit wins & M1 double digit losses. At M1 he is going to be facing the ozekis week 1, look for him to knock off one or more of them

Anonymous No. 218735

>>218729
The Waka brothers have been looking super solid, as has Daieisho, and Abi is always going to be Abi. I think the lower sanyaku is doing ok.

Anonymous No. 218744

I notice we don't have any suicide attempts in the sumo thread
Good job sumo bros happy new year

Anonymous No. 218745

>>218744
I'M GONNA DO IT. IF TAKARAFUJI DOESN'T GO 8-7 I'M GONNA JUMP!

Anonymous No. 218746

I'm kinda hoping for chaos lord shodai to make a return.

Anonymous No. 218747

>>218745
NOOO DON'T DO IT THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE OVERHYPED OZEKI THAT YOU CAN WATCH CHOKE AND NEVER REACH YOKOZUNA!!!!

Anonymous No. 218748

>>218747
I NEED HIM TO WIN 7 IN A ROW, THEN LOSE 7 IN A ROW, THEN WIN ON THE LAST DAY OR I'M GONNA JUMP!!!

Anonymous No. 218750

holy shit bros
look at what Isegahama just posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XOXcndQLzQ

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Anonymous No. 218754

>>218750
>4
Whoa.

Anonymous No. 218760

>>218734
atamifuji has been in this hell for a year. considering hes a young 22, i hope he develops into something good with all the first week abuse

Anonymous No. 218765

>>218760
Heā€™s fine kotozakura stayed a pretty long time in joi and now heā€™s on a Yokozuna run. Tomato has a good build itā€™s hard to not see him as ozeki one day

Anonymous No. 218777

>>218750
Futagoyama-bros, how do we counter this? Four of them...

Anonymous No. 218779

>>218750
I'm glad we're seeing more diverse sumo youtube content instead of everyone trying to reinvent the Sumo Food formula.

Anonymous No. 218784

>>218750
it was great, except that dumb fuck hakuho who had to praise himself...twice... what a dumbass. Oyakata Teru and Haruma just had to laugh at his ass.

Anonymous No. 218787

>>218784
I enjoyed that lol. It was very Hakuho. I'm glad they haven't completely broken his spirit.

Anonymous No. 218791

>>218777
The Futagoyama quadruple makushitter interview

Anonymous No. 218792

Who takes over Isegahama in July? Hakuho or Terunofuji or someone else?

Anonymous No. 218793

>>218792
why on earth would they give THE biggest sumo stable to the guy who's currently being disciplined for running his stable poorly?

Anonymous No. 218794

>>218792
It'll be Teru for sure
Hakuho is still Miyagino

Anonymous No. 218795

>>218792
Stock swap with Tateyama to stay on for 5 more years, Teru retires without permanent stock.

Anonymous No. 218798

>>218795
They wouldn't do Teru dirty like that would they

šŸ—‘ļø Anonymous No. 218799

>>218798
Please understand, the wisdom of Asashio is needed to ensure Hakuho stops being a shitpump of a stablemaster.

Anonymous No. 218801

>>218799
Who?

Anonymous No. 218802

>>218798
Please understand, the wisdom of Asahifuji is needed to ensure Hakuho stops being a shitpump of a stablemaster.
(still hungover, shut up)

Anonymous No. 218816

>>218802
Asahifuji knows that if he hands over the stable to Hakuho then Hakuho will ruin the stable and Asahifuji's reputation will grow just as Hakuho's sinks. The more hatred and disappoint people express about Hakuho, the more people will harken back to the days when Isegahama was under Asahifuji's stellar management

Anonymous No. 218820

>>218792
Hakuho and Terunofuji fight it out on the dohyo to decide who gets it. Terunofuji wins, because Hakuho has been too busy advertising the fight and distributing merchandise to train properly, but Terunofuji's knees explode as he bodily lifts Hakuho out of the ring. The newly renamed Kurumaisufuji-beya goes on to achieve great things in the 20s and 30s.

Anonymous No. 218833

>>218723
Enjoy your Takanosho 4 wins

Anonymous No. 218834

>>218833
I still might change it
I switched Meisei for Ichiyamamoto

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Anonymous No. 218870

Follow your dreams

Anonymous No. 218874

>>218870
If you don't have what you want, better get manifesting...

Anonymous No. 218914

>>218870
Hakuho shitposts in /LoA/

Anonymous No. 218961

>no new Chris videos in nearly a week
over?

Anonymous No. 218963

>>218961
they're probably on patreon or something
god I hate that site

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Anonymous No. 218975

important new Jap vocabulary has dropped: futehodo

The faggots at the globohomo Japan Times are massively butthurt about it
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2024/12/31/japan/japans-word-of-the-year/
Imagine their butthurt when all of the Yokozunas are Japanese at the end of 2025

Anonymous No. 218977

>>218961
god willing, Chris is returning to batman content

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Anonymous No. 218985

Almost sumo time
https://files.catbox.moe/1nbnek.mp4

Anonymous No. 218998

Kotozakura WILL become Yokozuna.
Hoshoryu WILL shit the bed and withdraw out of embarrassment.
And you will be happy.

Anonymous No. 218999

>>218975
>Gearoid Reidy
Could they not have at least found an actual Jap to complain about it? This guy's command of English is juvenile enough, and I can only imagine his Japanese is worse.

Anonymous No. 219001

Natto's telegram got shoah'd too. Is it ogre?

Anonymous No. 219005

>>218834
why are you picking people that are overranked clearly on course for 10+ losses

Anonymous No. 219008

>>219001
no...

Anonymous No. 219009

>>218999
Please don't respond to off-topic posts.

Anonymous No. 219010

>>219008
If he's not back in time, which stream would you lads recommend that will give me the least cancer?

Anonymous No. 219011

>>219010
karla

Anonymous No. 219013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33D9vYSxIQU
>young 'uns just running at each other
kino

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>>219013
It's called tobitsuki, "launching in" or "flying in". I've only seen footage of it once before. They practiced it in maezumo in the interest of saving time in identifying who was and wasn't good at sumo, if I recall correctly. It originally stopped around the end of WWII, but was temporarily revived from 1956-1973.

I'd never been clear on what the preservation status of old sumo recordings was, but this footage being from the standard broadcast angle implies that the NSK still has video for every match in every division as far back as the 60s, which I hope is correct. I would love to see 1950s jonokuchi matches.

Anonymous No. 219021

>>219019
Gonna spitball that it was brought back due to rising numbers of entrants, so maezumo would take longer without tobitsuki, and that it was dropped again as economic growth put more emphasis on secondary education, resulting in the current trend of maezumo being highest in March and negating the need for tobitsuki in the rest of the year.

Anonymous No. 219022

New Chris sumo kino came out kotozakura and his father visited kotozakura Iā€™s grave to promise him they will become Yokozuna!

Heā€™s the mc

Anonymous No. 219023

>>219022
WHERE IS THE BATMAN CONTENT

Anonymous No. 219025

>>219022
Chris was a Merton College, Oxford student when Naruhito was there, they're old school chums.

Anonymous No. 219026

>>219010
Random Youtube restreams.

Anonymous No. 219027

Lets say Onosato continues his pattern of alternating Tokyo yushos with 9-6s at the regional bashoes, how many years would he have to keep up that pattern of winning 3 a year but never two consecutive before he would get promoted to yokozuna?

Anonymous No. 219029

>>219027
They wouldn't do it for someone like Kaio, they certainly wouldn't do it for Onosato unless we still remain without an active yokozuna that isn't Terunofuji,

Anonymous No. 219030

>>219029
>unless we still remain without an active yokozuna that isn't Terunofuji
Teru's been part-time for 3 years now. Can we stop pretending like the JSA will overpromote someone like it's a certainty when it hasn't happened in all this time?

Anonymous No. 219031

>>219027
If he never does better than 14-1 -> 9-6 -> 14-1 -> 9-6, they would probably never promote him. He would 'only' be the best ozeki of all time.

Anonymous No. 219032

>>219027
It took Takanohana 7 yushos before he finally got yokozuna, because they absolutely waited until he got 2 in a row. There was a period of a year where he alternated yushos and 11-4s.

Anonymous No. 219045

Heya youtubes power ranking
1. Isegahama, best content hands down
2. Kise, stalwart channel with some of the best variety of content
3. Tatsunami, quality deluxe
4. Tamanoi, very entertaining selection of athletic competition, but subs are trash
5. Minato, poor subs, but compensated for somewhat with the excellent presentation, overseas voyages and enthusiasm of the participants
6. Shikoroyama, would be ranked higher if the posts weren't so infrequent, but excellent quality when they do deliver
7. Hidenoyama, new and subs are poor, but otherwise shows promise
8. Futagoyama, can't believe youtube allows these slobs to be put on public display, yuck

Anonymous No. 219046

The stars have aligned for the upcoming basho and it looks like we're in for a potentially legendary show, there are a number of enthralling story lines at the top of the banzuke, not only the two ozekis chasing the horizontal rope, but a yokozuna looking to shut them down and prove he still controls the top of the mountain and another ozeki who is looking to get a run of his own started.
What make it even more engaging is that opposing them in the early matches is a lineup of komusubis and upper joi that is absolutely stacked with guys who have a strong shot at knocking off anyone in upper sanyaku, Tobizaru is really the only weak link above M3. Gonoyama is kinda predictable, but he makes up for it by being such a wrecking ball. The rest of them; Abi, Wakatakakage, Takanosho, Kirishima (if he is in the form he showed in September), Atamifuji & Oho - are all bound to add to the excitement by showing us upset victories probably every night of the first week. If Kirishitma's neck/spine isn't in shape for full power sumo yet then he will get obliterated, but even without him the week 1 competition for upper sanyaku is stronger that usual. Shodai might beat some high rankers too, he is still capable of it once in a while.

Anonymous No. 219053

>>219045
REAL power ranking:

SSS: FutaGODyama
F: Damn dirty imposters

Anonymous No. 219055

>1 week left for sumo
what? I thought was today... fucking dammit. Weren't bashos supposed to take place on the first sunday?

Anonymous No. 219057

>>219055
No.

Anonymous No. 219058

>>219055
Always the second Sunday of the month.

Anonymous No. 219063

>sumodb 503ing again
and so I face the final curtain

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Anonymous No. 219080

Kotozakura training with a barbell, 1973.

Anonymous No. 219088

>>219063
It's been 503ing and 404ing a lot in December.

Anonymous No. 219089

>>219088
I bet the JSA is doing this

Anonymous No. 219100

>>219080
Wow, I thought Tamawashi was the oldest man in the top division!

Anonymous No. 219103

>>219100
Kirishima's been around since the '50s

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>>219113

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Anonymous No. 219118

My updated picks
also I made a heya for us if anyone wants to join it (Excess Sumo)

Anonymous No. 219119

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ4hkcFJXR4
>9 minute video of a Dewanoumi practice including Sadanoyama sparring
Don't mind if I do. Thanks NSK.

Anonymous No. 219130

>>219030
Nobody has put together results that would even begin a discussion for promotion in the past 3 years, so your point is moot. If they had, I'm certain that Terunofuji would have retired there and then.

However, for argument's sake let's say that Terunofuji pulls out early in Hatsu, neither Hōshōryū nor Kotonowaka put up promotion-worthy numbers, and Ōnosato wins convincingly. That situation might just be palatable enough for the JSA to allow Terunofuji to retire, with the drawing card for 2025 being who will gain promotion out of the three ōzeki (where at least one inevitably succeeds).

The brass just aren't going to allow for a lengthy period without a yokozuna on the banzuke, without a credible replacement waiting in the wings - of whom we currently have three.

Unless Terunofuji somehow pulls some magic bullshit out of his arse and regains his 2020-2021 form, this is the best time for him to bow out and let the next generation take over. He's got his 10 yūshō after all.

Anonymous No. 219132

>>219130
Unless I misunderstood, he said in >>218750 that he wants 4 more.

Anonymous No. 219134

>>219130
Protip: Teru isn't on the verge of considering retirement. He isn't all that old, as long as he can continue to collect 1 or 2 cups a year he will stick around.

Anonymous No. 219135

>>219134
Teru is already 7th all time for most absences by a yokozuna, and is one more skipped basho away from tying Akebono for 6th. Everyone is being lenient with him now because he's the only yokozuna and has kept his nose clean outside the ring, but the moment it looks like there's at least one new yokozuna that's here to stay for a while, pressure will mount for Teru to preserve the dignity of the rank.

Anonymous No. 219136

I hope to develop the same flexibility as a sumo

Anonymous No. 219137

>>219136
*rikishi

Anonymous No. 219138

>>219137
gazuntite

Anonymous No. 219139

>>219138
*Gesundheit

Anonymous No. 219140

>>219139
https://youtu.be/gVXWNbPjMYc?si=vO0r1dKcFX9RXdJ3

Anonymous No. 219146

>>219045
Futagoyama's ratings have been falling so they fired their cameraman in hired a 'retired' (aka post-wall) JAV actress to take over in hopes of adding some sex appeal on the cheap to recover their lost ratings and ad revenue.
Future Futagoyama plotlines: female idol group moves in next door, their plumbing breaks and they come to Futagoyama to ask if they can use Futagoyama's bath, then Kikuchi rapes them all (he is still a minor so he knows he can't be charged with any crimes)

Anonymous No. 219148

>>219130
>The brass just aren't going to allow for a lengthy period without a yokozuna on the banzuke
Prove it.

Anonymous No. 219150

>>219146
>rapes
It's hard for a guy to wrap his head around but sumo wrestlers don't need to rape anybody, the fatmaxxing gets bitches wet for some reason.

Anonymous No. 219151

>>219146
i personally don't like the close-up takes he does, he should chill with it, no need to get up in the nose of everyone.

Anonymous No. 219154

What Futagoyama needs is both Mita and Nabatame having a solid hold in sekitori ranks and taking the camera along with them outside the heya to show the sekitori benefits

Anonymous No. 219156

>>219134
>He isn't all that old
33 is not ancient, but it's about the average age yokozuna retire, and many of those weren't so broken down that they could only appear 1-2 times a year

Anonymous No. 219157

>>219154
Mita would just take the camera to the gym and film himself working out for an hour. Boy's a machine.

Anonymous No. 219164

>>219151
Dude watched too many Sergio Lenone movies

Anonymous No. 219165

>>219135
Arguably 2 yuuuuuuusho!s a year (& 4 incompletes or total absences) preserves the dignity of the rank better than 6 10-5s would

Anonymous No. 219168

>>219135
>Teru is already 7th all time for most absences by a yokozuna
That doesn't look as galling when you consider that ~35 of the 73 yokozuna never competed in more than 20 bouts a year.

Anonymous No. 219169

>>219168
And at least one of those 73 yokozuna wasn't even real!

Anonymous No. 219171

>>219169
>one of those 73 yokozuna wasn't even real
I bet it was Kashiwado. You never really hear anything about him

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Anonymous No. 219172

>>219171
>I bet it was Kashiwado

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Anonymous No. 219189

>>219169
It's obviously "Hakuho". Do these people really expect us to believe a random Mongolian turned up one day, shattered all the records, and then just left? He'd at least be running a stable if he had really existed, wouldn't he?

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Anonymous No. 219234

>>219220
the one at 0:16 isnt so much a throw as a spike

Anonymous No. 219235

>>219234
Wasn't official anyway.

Anonymous No. 219236

Sumo webm maker can you post some kotozakura I webms pls <3

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Anonymous No. 219238

>>219236

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Anonymous No. 219239

>>219236
>>219238
Getting feisty with Taiho.

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>>219239

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Anonymous No. 219241

You can really see the resemblance here.

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Anonymous No. 219244

Last one.

Anonymous No. 219271

Nokneesnofuji will be in January basho

Anonymous No. 219276

Even Nattoā€™s Telegram channel got nuked. Dammit.

Anonymous No. 219278

>>219136
*sumotori

Anonymous No. 219281

>>219271
You learned that from watching this excellent video by Chris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhKsulR4MJQ

Why did you fail to credit your source? Chris is epic, everyone loves him

Anonymous No. 219298

>>219281
>Onsato is Terus handpicked heir
So cool. I kind of thought it'd be someone from his own stable (Takeru? ATF?) but I agree 'Sato is yokozuna material.

Anonymous No. 219303

Hoshoryu wins January. Count it.

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Anonymous No. 219305

Onosato Yusho
Teru JY
Hosh and Zak both blow it

Anonymous No. 219307

>>219305
I don't see Teru making it to senshuraku.

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Anonymous No. 219309

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKOkosjBybA

Anonymous No. 219310

>>219307
he'll make it, Teru has the spirit of the samurai, he'll make it even if he ends up having to get his knees amputated

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Anonymous No. 219326

>>219303
I believe.

Anonymous No. 219360

I hope ktz ainā€™t having yusho hangover

Anonymous No. 219373

>>219281
Chris, I need more of your insight into Adam West. please

Anonymous No. 219375

>>219307
Teru on 6 months rest is money in the bank for at least 12 wins

Anonymous No. 219376

>>219326
Loses on day 1, two other losses in week 1, finishes 8-7

Anonymous No. 219377

>>219326
This bitch should now be on a Yokozuna run thatā€™s that nepotism working for him

Anonymous No. 219378

>>219377
Make your next drink water.

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Anonymous No. 219380

>>219378
>>219377
I'll bring him some Chikara Mizu^tm

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Anonymous No. 219402

Soon

Anonymous No. 219410

>>219402
takerufuji isn't in that pic, but is still outside the joi so he stands a chance of having a strong first week and making a run at the cup

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Anonymous No. 219412

>>219410
>run

Anonymous No. 219426

neph looks good, did 9 matches with zakura, won 8.

https://x.com/OneLoveLulit/status/1876224698981491055/video/2

Anonymous No. 219428

>>219375
Maximum of 12 wins. He's not getting any younger, and every time he completes a basho he does more damage to himself. I don't think he's going to be in good enough condition to beat any of the Ozeki in the final few days.

Anonymous No. 219429

>>219426
He can win all the practice matches he wants but needs to win the actual matches that matter seems like to me kz2 is downloading data.

Anonymous No. 219443

damn bros this basho is going to be WILD

can you feel the hype

Anonymous No. 219445

>>219443
Iā€™m mostly worried that Iā€™m not going to watch any of it due to NHK fuckery.

Anonymous No. 219448

>>219445
yes it's ridiculous for them to be so tight fisted when sharing with us when half of Japan is wearing Dodgers gear

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Anonymous No. 219450

Was there any follow up to those weird pictures of Jason that anon found on shitter?
https://nitter.poast.org/thatwineguy68

Anonymous No. 219451

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Qx3wvqTOQ

šŸ—‘ļø Anonymous No. 219453

>>219448
I enjoy how they make life difficult for foreigners, I respect their racism

Anonymous No. 219463

Can you pay those cheap japs to watch the basho in a similar format to what natto offered? I would pay upwards of 150 dollars a year to have consistant recordings available for makushita and up.

šŸ—‘ļø Anonymous No. 219478

>>219453
Shut up faggot

Anonymous No. 219480

>>219276
Dumb nigger should know when to quit. NSK has his number and won't let his dick go.

Anonymous No. 219483

>>219480
never give up, never surrender

Anonymous No. 219519

>>219463
no because hiro is to lazy to get the clips all put together until like 2-3 days after the happen. the fansubbers are kinda cringe tryhards for getting that stuff out like 10 minutes after the last bout ends.

Anonymous No. 219538

>>219519
>cringe tryhards
This is the otaku spirit. It doesn't matter how niche or embarrassing your hobby is, you pursue it passionately and without shame. Without the services of otakus, the world would be a smaller and more boring place. It is one of the saddest aspects of modern life that being genuinely, unironically earnest is now considered something to be mocked.

Anonymous No. 219554

>>219538
Based Otaku appreciator

Anonymous No. 219559

Big news!
Onosato is going to tie his oichonmage topknot for the first time!

source: wherever Chris read it

Anonymous No. 219562

>>219519
I would bet there is enough downtime in between matches to do nattos edits.

Anonymous No. 219565

I'm starting to believe that Kotozakura will completely shit the bed this basho and just withdraw and cry himself to sleep.

Anonymous No. 219571

>>219360
>>219565
Not having yusho hangover is what separates the yokozuna from the fraudkozuna. Teru doesn't get enough credit considering both his contemporary ozekis and the new wave have failed miserably at getting it.

Anonymous No. 219579

Its retarded how everyone is suddenly expecting Zak and Horseshitryu to compete for the cup after having had all of one good showing in a row. They were both 8-7 in September, why has that been forgotten?

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Anonymous No. 219582

>>219579
I didn't forget it

Anonymous No. 219583

>>219579
Just because I want it to happen so Teru can finally retire his knees doesn't mean I think it's a lock to happen.

Anonymous No. 219587

>Roga will be kyujo for the start of the Hatsu basho
Rogabros...

Anonymous No. 219588

>>219579
Well it's about time they step it up a notch.

Anonymous No. 219590

>>219579
They had pretty decent years especially kotozakura with two jys the most ones in a year and only one single digit showing. I think youā€™re just a seething bitch what you should really be seething about is nephew being on a run despite having no title.

Anonymous No. 219592

>>219579
Zak just had the classic pre-yuusho hangover

Anonymous No. 219593

>>219579
I don't see many here thinking Kotozakura will compete for it. Hoshoryu on the other hand, has been absolutely dominant in all stables practice.

Anonymous No. 219594

>>219593
It's all part of Zak's master plan
as Sun Tzu said "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak"

Anonymous No. 219595

>>219593
> dominant in practice
Itā€™s practice not like itā€™s actual go time sumo ktz should still be be favorite heā€™s the reigning champion

Anonymous No. 219597

>>219587
futagoyama is such a sissy stable

Anonymous No. 219598

>>219595
>In front of the YDC
>Not real
Fuck off, freshie.

Anonymous No. 219602

>>219587
as long as Nabatame finally manages a kk

Anonymous No. 219605

>>219598
Like any of that shit will help him get the rope what only matters is what happens during fight time he didnā€™t show up when it mattered he got sent to the clay like a bitch against big zak

Anonymous No. 219614

>>219602
>I got my first KK in juryo on the third try
its already over for nabatame, he should look into opening a chanko restaurant or something, even if he manages an 8-7 and moves up to the lofty rank of J12 he is never going to make it

Anonymous No. 219617

>>219614
Nabatame is going to go 15-0

Anonymous No. 219623

>>219443
>damn bros this basho is going to be WILD
>can you feel the hype
This should be the most exciting basho in years and I'm probably not going to get to see any of it because I can't spend two weeks staying up until 3 in the morning watching sumo.

>NHK sometimes gives you replays the next day
Except on fucking weekends and like 24 hours later. Basically just, "they're up when they're up." If I want to avoid spoilers, I can't even read the basho threads on /sp/.

How do those cheap fucks not realize the whole reason the tour in London will work at all is because of people stealing their content?

Anonymous No. 219624

>>219605
> any of that shit will help him get the rope
it 100% will help him get the rope if he wins this basho and they are really considering a promotion.. remember that he isn't coming off of a win. he needs anything extra like that to convince them 13-2jy was a yusho equivalent and he is a cut above the others. it could also be the difference between kotozakura not getting a promotion if he goes 13-2 losing only to onosato and hoshoryu.

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Anonymous No. 219625

>>219594
He is gathering DATA trust fatherā€™s plan

Anonymous No. 219629

>>219623
>I can't spend two weeks staying up until 3 in the morning watching sumo
I bet you don't even HAVE a bicycle.

Anonymous No. 219630

>>219595
>ktz should still be be favorite heā€™s the reigning champion
That just means he's even more likely to lose since nobody not named Terunofuji has been able to pull off consecutive yusho.

Anonymous No. 219632

>>219623
The NHK World highlights air at 11:30 AM Eastern the same morning as the matches so you only have to avoid spoilers for a few hours after you wake up and then you can backread on the /sp/ thread. The YouTube uploads only come after they rerun the highlights 4 times so if you wait for those you'll always be at least a full day behind and will have to live in a bubble for 2 weeks to avoid spoilers.

Anonymous No. 219635

>>219632
nta, but i wouldn't mind being a day behind if i had the stats natto puts up. its nice to have all that shit before the matches because it helps keep it fresh in the mind for the 15 days

Anonymous No. 219636

>>219630
KTZ2 is super consistent and heā€™s fighting for much more than himself we might see an all time performance from him this tournament he really showed that inner dawg his last outing

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Anonymous No. 219637

wait a minute
I just realized that, if you intentionally read Kotozakura's kanji in a specific way, it can be written "Kino"
ē“- kin
ę”œ - ou, but the standardization sumodb uses would reduce it to just 'o'

ē“ę”œ - kino

Anonymous No. 219646

>>219587
Hokutofuji and Bushozan are kyujo for the start of the basho as well.

Anonymous No. 219655

>>219632
>>219635
Kintamayama was putting his stuff on YouTube last basho, if I remember correctly, and would just take it down within a couple days to avoid getting copyright struck.

Anonymous No. 219656

Funny how I can look up the most popular shit in the world owned by the biggest most legally autistic corporations possible all for free no problem, but nobody's capable of keeping fucking sumo highlights up for more than a few weeks at a time.

Anonymous No. 219657

>>217881
I think Atamifuji and Oho are the prime candidates for that, but they need a change on their mindset, they clearly don't fight with everything they have

Anonymous No. 219658

>>219656
I wish the big man would just start uploading torrents on some public tracker. And maybe keep a discord or something for the community aspect only.

Anonymous No. 219660

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Results.aspx?b=202501&d=1

Day 1 has a lot of kino bouts. Hoshoryu vs Kirishima and Terunofuji vs Wakatakakage are bangers.

Anonymous No. 219667

>>219656
There's probably a single unhinged nationalist Japanese otaku that's responsible for 95% of this
That's how it usually goes

Anonymous No. 219682

>>219637
Well done retard

Anonymous No. 219683

>>219682
thank you very much

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Anonymous No. 219686

>>219656
lol butthurt gaijin faggot
u mad

Anonymous No. 219687

>>219686
Tell it to a Mongolian, little man

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Anonymous No. 219694

>>219637
/our/ fruaking guy!

Anonymous No. 219696

>>219637
looks more like daieisho than zak

first day matchups are out:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/
Terunofuji - Wakatakakage
Kotozakura - Takanosho
Kirishima - Hoshoryu
Onosato - Tobizaru

Abi being left out of the mix of upper sanyaku matches on the first day seems a little strange. Onosato gets the easy win instead.

Anonymous No. 219697

Day 2 matches also out

Anonymous No. 219700

>>219697
>Teru vs Takanosho day 2
lmao

šŸ—‘ļø Anonymous No. 219701

>>219700
And Zak vs Kirishima
which according to the Spiffy breakdown I just watched, is almost guaranteed to be a Zak loss

Anonymous No. 219702

I misread the schedule, Kirishima is fighting Onosato day 2 not Zak

Anonymous No. 219720

>>219656
Stop being a bitch and just go to the stream replays and fastforward through them to the matches you want.

Anonymous No. 219721

>>219696
>Abi being left out of the mix of upper sanyaku matches on the first day seems a little strange.
No it doesn't. That's where K1e fights in this situation.

Anonymous No. 219722

Can someone give me a cryptic clue on how to find natto now? Even his little website is gone.

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Anonymous No. 219725

>>219724
y tho

Anonymous No. 219729

>>219722
He's been incommunicado since his Telegram got wiped.

Anonymous No. 219730

Anyone watching the ring purifying?

Anonymous No. 219731

>>219730
Thank you for the reminder.

Anonymous No. 219732

>>219730
Yeah, someone is having a coughing fit right next to the fucking microphone.

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Anonymous No. 219737

>>219730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJiev-WxTUo

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Anonymous No. 219739

>one of the best and arguably the best yokozuna ever
>uses a bike like this
And some fools still doubt the bike theory

Anonymous No. 219740

>>219739
I'm not a bicycle autist, is that a good bicycle?

Anonymous No. 219744

>>219740
Yes. About as good as you get from a giant carbon fiber hard tail. like 4/5k depending on group set

Anonymous No. 219748

>>219739
>>219744
Why do they design the gears so small now? I get the feeling that the maximum speed you can reach will be much lower.

Anonymous No. 219751

>>219748
>Why do they design the gears so small now? I get the feeling that the maximum speed you can reach will be much lower.

It's actually about the same. Notice it's only a single chainring in the front, as opposed to the two from years past. The cassettes in the back have a much wider range, though, so there's no need to have a front derailleur (which can be finicky and prone to drop the chain) but you can still have a wide range of gears.

Normal bikes these days come with a 30 or 32t chainring and a massive 10-45 12-speed cassette.
Ten or fifteen years ago, you'd have something like a 36/24 two-ring chainset and an 11-34 9-speed cassette.

Turning your pedals at 60rpm in your highest gear (a gear you rarely use anyway) with the 32-10 you're going 16.1mph, with 36-11 you're going 16.5mph. Not that much of a difference.

Anonymous No. 219754

Can you guys not talk about fucking cycling

This is a sumo thread

Anonymous No. 219760

>he doesn't know

Anonymous No. 219762

>>219754
Are you new? It's a well-known topic in /sumo/. The hypothesis is that a rikishi's capability and potential is directly reflected by his choice of bike. Rikishi aren't allowed to drive, so nearly all of them own bikes and use them often - a sloppy man who isn't interested in being the best he can be will choose a bad bike, a man who understands quality and strives for perfection will choose a good bike. It sounds silly on the face of it, but the more you look into it the more it makes sense.

Anonymous No. 219765

>>219762
They do that because they have to.

Cycling is for fucking faggots and cyclists are insufferable cocksuckers.

Anonymous No. 219769

>>219765
tsmt, its no coincidence that asaSHITryu had a fancy bike and ended up being kicked out of sumo.

Anonymous No. 219771

>>219765
Of course they do it because they have to - but because they do it, and their choices can be compared against each other, it functions as a useful metric. If they didn't ride bikes we'd be comparing their cars.

Anonymous No. 219772

Less than 12 hours to get those kachi clash picks in
We're finally here, it's felt so far away when the last basho ended

Anonymous No. 219773

>>219765
t. Got cucked by a mountain biker

Not our fault your gf is the town bicycle, bro.

Anonymous No. 219774

>>219773
That would imply cyclists have sex with women which we all know is impossible as they are all gay

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Anonymous No. 219781

>>219771
>we'd be comparing their cars
How do you explain this? Career high M5w.

Anonymous No. 219782

>>219774
>That would imply cyclists have sex with women
Or, you are gay, and a mountain biker had sex with your boyfriend

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Anonymous No. 219783

Behold Onosato's oichonmage

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>>219765
>you

Anonymous No. 219787

>>219724
was this the cryptic clue...? it's too cryptic...

Anonymous No. 219788

One last bump

Anonymous No. 219796

IT HAS BEGUN!

Anonymous No. 219797

Jonokuchi matches have started.
>>219788
We are far past bump limit.

Anonymous No. 219798

>Ikazuchihayate
7 mora. Nice.

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Anonymous No. 219800

>>219797
>>219797
>Jonokuchi matches have started.
They sure have, and with a bang!

Anonymous No. 219801

>>146616397
>>146616397
>>146616397

Anonymous No. 219802

>>219801
>>>/sp/146616397
?

Anonymous No. 219803

>>219801
What the fuck, why didn't the crossboarding work?
>>146616397
>>>/sp/146616397

Anonymous No. 219814

>mybike autism theory is now commonly accepted
>>219765
riding a bike doesn't make you a walkable city cyclist fag retard
>>219781
You can clearly see there's another not Ishiura guy in the drivers seat. Ishiura was alao pretty close to Hakuho, so there's plenty of cross over with people they know. Its also very popular to rent cars like. Less own them out right. It could even be Ishiura being picked up as an advertising campaign for a company that rents the cars. Basically, that picture doesn't tell us anything

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Anonymous No. 219854

>>219814
>It could even be Ishiura being picked up as an advertising campaign for a company that rents the cars

>he doesn't know

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šŸ—‘ļø Anonymous No. 220076

>>220075
Total nigger death.

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Anonymous No. 220198

TERUNOFUJI INTAI
https://x.com/mainichiphoto/status/1879884593047973976

Anonymous No. 220286

>>220198
sleep well big knees

Anonymous No. 220388

Teru tribute from Isegahama youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnDlQ2Dazg

Anonymous No. 220418

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I07pcW0aXo

Anonymous No. 220426

>>220418
not watching your clickbait

Anonymous No. 220470

Sumo coming to Paris.
https://x.com/sumokyokai/status/1880844436093222965

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Anonymous No. 220782

>>217298
I have an interest in sumo but i know basically nothing about it. How accurate is Baki's depiction of sumo and ancient sumo? Taking into account the degree of embellishment that comes with all entertainment. Also, fuck me. My lower half is as hairy as these two.

Anonymous No. 220783

>>220782
I don't know what this is, but
>shorts
>kicking
I'm going to guess not very accurate.

Anonymous No. 220785

>>220783
This is the alleged ancient form of sumo. It's pointed out how peculiar the kicking was. The manga makes the distinction between that and the grand sumo i.e modern sumo.

Anonymous No. 220792

>>220785
So, pre-Tokugawa. AFAIK, pretty much everything known about that period of sumo is from legends.

Anonymous No. 220793

>>220782
Baki's sumo arc is nothing like sumo and not what you should expect. If you're interested in sumo just watch an actual tournament.

Anonymous No. 220796

>>220782
Baki in that case is describing the actual earliest described sumo fight between taima no kehaya and nomi no sukune
Note that fight took place circa 30 bc and the earliest written reference to it is a history book from like a thousand years later
Also note that the word "sumo" can also translate as something like contest so basically any official fight back then was sumo regardless of the ruleset

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Anonymous No. 220984

>KOTOKWABKURA
>KOTOSHITKURA
>KOTOJOBBERKURA
>KOTOZ-ACKKKK!

Anonymous No. 220995

>>220984
you just cannot take this guy seriously with that dumb expression he does before a bout.. Onosato hurry up.

Anonymous No. 221018

I fear that JSA will just set up a short term yokozuna if Hoshoryu can't keep this up

Anonymous No. 221019

Oh damn I didn't even know this board existed.

>>221018
The fuck does that mean? Promote Onosato on a 6 month contract?

Anonymous No. 221024

>>221019
They'll reactivate Hakuho for a year

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Anonymous No. 221028

>>221024
>Hakuho...we have one last job for you...

Anonymous No. 221030

>>221028
>Objective: Survive as Yokozuna until reinforcements arrive

Anonymous No. 221031

>>221024
Hakuho leaves NSK, self identifies as 15 year old japanese boy and joins Tatsunami stable so he can beat the shit out of Hoshoryu in the practice ring

Anonymous No. 221032

My wife and I are disappointed to hear of the promotion. Regardless of the perceived ā€œneedā€ for someone in that position, and regardless of the manā€™s accomplishments, we feel that he lacks the character for it.

If he does well and honors the promotion, then I wish him well. But we see too much of his uncle in himā€”his bad temper and a proclivity for violence beyond what is necessary for the sport of Sumoā€”and fear that things could end badly.

Anonymous No. 221033

>>221032
Is this an engagement post? Outside the ring Hoshoryu isn't violent in the least, he's carefree and jokes about all the time. It's only when some fat fuck has the gall to stand across the dohyo from him that Asashoryu comes out in him.

šŸ—‘ļø Anonymous No. 221034

>>221032
>But we see too much of his uncle in himā€”his bad temper and a proclivity for violence beyond what is necessary for the sport of Sumoā€”and fear that things could end badly.
You and your wife are one
Is this some hot take from japanese twitter?

Anonymous No. 221035

>>221032
the only resemblance is the looks. i havent seen any bad temper in Hosh. He may smug a bow here and there when he loses, but that's about it.

Anonymous No. 221036

>>221035
He doesn't not bow, he just does it too quickly when the gyoji just happens to not be facing that way. And honestly it's not like the JSA cares so long as it brings numbers in (see: Asashoryu).

Anonymous No. 221037

Canā€™t the Jsa turn down recommendations ydc just does the recommendation and not the actual promotion

Anonymous No. 221038

>>221037
yeah

Anonymous No. 221039

>>221036
>see: the guy that was constantly embroiled in controversy and got forced out

They do care and even that little burst of emotion after his win is going to count against Hosh.

Anonymous No. 221040

>>221037
They can, yes. It's not official until the meeting. The YDC is just advisory, but they scheduled the approval meeting, and will likely approve it.

Anonymous No. 221041

But isn't it the JSA who is calling for the YDC to make a recommendation? Why ask if you're just going to ignore what they say?

Anonymous No. 221042

Announcing that the YDC are convening to discuss Hoshoryu publicly in the middle of the arena with a huge crowd of spectators watching plus live on television and then not promoting him would be so fucking dumb lmao

Anonymous No. 221043

Give him the rope if he turns into a kimboshi farm force him to retire

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Anonymous No. 221044

>>220995
>CAN YOU SMELL
>WHAT THE ZAK
>IS COOKING

Anonymous No. 221045

>>221044
>THE PEOPLE'S -ACKBOW!!!

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Anonymous No. 221046

There's a girl in the sumo food bowling episode who's super cute and I want to marry her :3c

She's probably about 40 knowing Japan.

Anonymous No. 221047

>>221046
That's the okamisan, she is married and has a highschool age sun with Futagoyama oyakata

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Anonymous No. 221048

>Hoshoryu getting promoted to yokozuna
>Meanwhile Asanoyama in shambles and down in sandanme next basho
Stay away from hookers

Anonymous No. 221049

Is Sponichi a reliable source? They're outright saying the YDC said yes.

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Anonymous No. 221050

Some wrestler who is rising through the ranks pretty fast in the lower divisions

Anonymous No. 221051

>>221047
I'd love to see her oil wrestle with Emmi from Shishi's stable.

Anonymous No. 221052

>>221049
I think a lot of people are jumping the gun here and construing the shimpan recommendation as the promotion itself

It's not even the next day in Japan yet, it's the night after

Anonymous No. 221053

>>221050
Daiki? Any relation to Onosato?

Anonymous No. 221054

>>221049
The YDC did recommend it, but they are just an advisory body they have to approve it officially.

Anonymous No. 221055

>>221052
Actually it's almost 5am. Up with the rising son.

Anonymous No. 221056

>>221053
Family name first in Japanese.

Anonymous No. 221057

>>221053
That's his first name, dummy.

Anonymous No. 221058

>>221054
Yes, but it was the JSA who asked the YDC to recommend it.

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Anonymous No. 221059

>>221057
>>221056
Huh?

Anonymous No. 221060

>>221059
Onosato is his shikona

Nakamura Daiki is Onosatos real name

Anonymous No. 221061

>>221059
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daiki

Anonymous No. 221062

>>221059
Lmao I realised right as I clicked post how dumb I was. Oh well.

Anonymous No. 221063

>>221062
It's okay, Britbong. We forgive you.

Anonymous No. 221064

>>221050
yeah i noticed him as well, dude was facerolling all but 1.

Anonymous No. 221066

>>221058
They still have the meeting to finalize it.

Anonymous No. 221068

>>221060
>Nakamura Daiki
>doesn't join Nakamura-beya
You had one job...

Anonymous No. 221070

>>221068
He didn't believe in the SCIENCE Nakamura stable was going to bring and decided to stay in bumfuck nowhere Ibaraki (inside a huge castle)

Anonymous No. 221071

So my fantasy team was completely fucking hosed this time around.

>Picked Oho hoping for a breakout but changed to Atamifuji in the end
>Thought Churanoumi was a free pick because he looked so good last basho

Thanks a lot fatsos.

Anonymous No. 221073

>>221066
Asahi Shimbun is also saying it.

Anonymous No. 221074

>>221073
Yes, they are.
>The Japan Sumo Association is expected to decide Hoshoryuā€™s promotion to the 74th yokozuna at an extraordinary meeting of the board of directors on Jan. 29.
It's finalized on the 29th. So it's not finalized yet as I said.

Anonymous No. 221075

>>221074
Of course, but the only thing that could stop it is if the YDC says no, which there's no chance they will.

Anonymous No. 221076

>>221075
The YDC already said yes, and I'm not arguing that he won't get promoted. I'm just saying it's not official... yet.

Anonymous No. 221077

>>221076
No you have it backwards, the YDC meets today. The JSA asked the YDC for the meeting. The JSA is already on board.

Anonymous No. 221078

>>221070
Feisty!

Anonymous No. 221080

>>221071
Lol I made those same picks

Anonymous No. 221081

If heā€™s that good he can wait to get two yusho itā€™ll happen eventually! - JSA about takanohana

Anonymous No. 221082

>>221081
Yeah, but we don't have an Akebono this time.

Anonymous No. 221083

>>221081
People debate Kaio v Takakeisho but in reality Takanohana was the greatest ozeki of all time.

Anonymous No. 221084

>>221077
I see that in another article, I thought the YDC had already met based on how positive the headlines were. But it still says final JSA approval is on the 29th, so after that meeting they have to rubber stamp it (since they already initiated this process I'm sure they'll do so).

Anonymous No. 221085

>>221084
Right. It wouldn't make sense to not approve something they already asked for. If it's not a done deal then it's a big embarrassment, quite frankly.

Anonymous No. 221086

>Skip the yusho hangover by getting a stroke jun-yusho instead
>Get told you need 14 wins next time
>Get 12 then win a three way playoff to bring your total basho wins to 14
>All of this happened by the grace of Oho
I have no idea if I'm impressed at what Hoshoryu has achieved, or disgusted by it.

Anonymous No. 221087

>>221086
>stroke
Strong. Looks like the stroke is all mine.

Anonymous No. 221088

>>221086
>no idea if I'm impressed
He needs to follow it up with another win, that's certain. Hope he can handle the pressure.

Anonymous No. 221089

Interesting tidbit: it was Takadagawa, the former Akinoshima, who was a stablemate of Takanohana who pushed hardest for the emergency promotion meeting.

Anonymous No. 221090

>>221088
At least one this year for sure.

Anonymous No. 221091

>>221089
Takanohana opposes the promotion of anyone who hasn't won 6+ yushos at ozeki.

Anonymous No. 221092

>>221088
Gonna be Hosh and Ono going at it this year I hope, with Takeru sometimes peeking his head in and Daieisho going 8-7 as he rightly should. None of this 11-4 nonsense.

Anonymous No. 221093

>>221083
Raiden is, you mean. The rest are fighting over 2nd place.

Anonymous No. 221094

>>221086
I don't like it for the simple fact that it relied on Oho's performance and not solely on Hoshoryu's.

Anonymous No. 221095

>>221092
Kirishima and Oho set to throw a wrench in those plans, I think.

Anonymous No. 221096

>>221094
That's why I'm still adamant he has to win next time or people will doubt him.

Anonymous No. 221097

>>221095
Kirishima maybe, but Oho still has a lot to prove.

Anonymous No. 221099

>>221094
Yeah I'm completely with you there. I imagine the JSA was thinking along those lines too until Hosh dumpstered the playoff.

Anonymous No. 221100

>>221099
Yup.

Anonymous No. 221101

>>221099
Dumpstered rank and filers like he shouldā€™ve done against the three mk megashitters he lost to

Anonymous No. 221102

>>221101
And where were the sanyaku while this was going on? 5/8 sanyaku got losing records this basho. Oho has been a sanyaku in the making for a while, though Kinbozo can fuck off back to juryo. Or better yet Kazakhstan. Absolutely distraught at Onosato losing to him.

Anonymous No. 221104

>>221102
Zak is hurt and onosato put on a decent basho sekiwake and komusubi are just glorified rank and filers still doesnā€™t change the fact hoshitryu lost to rank and filers that went 6-9 5-10 and 7-8

Anonymous No. 221105

>>221104
>sekiwake and komusubi are just glorified rank and filers
Opinion discarded.

Anonymous No. 221107

>>221104
>zak is hurt
well maybe he should have stopped early instead of feeding free wins to everyone, that would have given him more time to heal with less strain. Now the end result is the same, kadoban

Anonymous No. 221108

>>221104
I found it interesting to hear that Hoshoryu said he gets most fired up against other ozeki. It's almost as if he doesn't take maegashira seriously and it causes dumb shit like being thrown by Atamifuji who I didn't even know COULD throw. All he has to do is take everything ultra seriously which desu a zuna promotion will probably do for him. Super interested to see how he performs in March now, the confidence boost for him will be extreme. Guy's gonna be like Mike Tyson who didn't even compute the possibility that he could lose a fight in his prime.

>>221105
Name the good komusubi from 2024. I'll start:
>Onosato
>Abi
>Daieisho
Everyone else has been a complete fucking jobber. Everyone had such high hopes for the Waka brothers this basho.

Anonymous No. 221109

>>221107
Heal on the dahyo

Anonymous No. 221110

>>221108
Shodai and Hiradoumi, both beat the Yokozuna to be, hence, both are good.

Anonymous No. 221111

>>219739
>giant
hehe

Anonymous No. 221112

>>221094
Any yusho relies on everyone else losing.

Anonymous No. 221113

>>221108
>Daieisho
Speaking of someone whoā€™s just been steadily grinding out consistently good results for two years now.
Since Janā€™23 heā€™s had six double digit basho and only one MK, in the sanyaku nearly the whole time.

Anonymous No. 221114

>>221112
14-1 implies you made them lose. Years from now people going over basho scores may not realise just how close Hosh was to not receiving this rope.

>>221110
Hira is my fuckin dog dude.

>>221113
Daieisho is the ultimate in S1e technology.

Anonymous No. 221115

>>221113
Guy's a goddamned bull. I just wish he could have learned to stay upright earlier in his career.

Anonymous No. 221116

>>221114
Hoshoryu made Oho and Kinbozan lose, twice in the same tournament.

Anonymous No. 221117

Just realized Hoshoryu never fought Abi this time.

Anonymous No. 221118

>>221115
I envision Daieisho as a wild boar when he fights. He's probably the only guy who can beat Hiradoumi in raw tenacity. Go rewatch his fight against Hosh from November, you'll get what I mean. Sure some guys like the Waka bros hit the towara and get comebacks, but Daieisho just brute forces through it all like a complete animal.

>>221117
Onosato fucking WISHES dude.

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>>221118
Bull.

Anonymous No. 221121

>>221110
>beating a Yokozuna
Something hoshoryu has never done btw

Anonymous No. 221122

>>221121
He will once Onosato gets promoted.

Anonymous No. 221123

>>221120
But enough about your wife's plans for this evening.

Anonymous No. 221124

>>221122
lol

Anonymous No. 221125

>>221123
I'm so lonely I wish this was true just so I could have a wife....

Anonymous No. 221126

>>221121
Hoshoryu also hadn't fought a yokozuna for something like two and a half years before his promotion. Not really his fault no one was there once he became stronger DESU.

>>221125
Imagine spending a steamy evening with Daieisho. I don't know if anyone's pelvis could survive. I imagine if he's married that his wife looks as ugly as him.

Anonymous No. 221127

>>221086
>>221099
Anons here are putting too much stock in the playoff wins. Fucking Abi won a 3-man playoff and his was arguably more impressive.

Anonymous No. 221129

>>221126
Eight meetings with Terunofuji and never won once

Anonymous No. 221130

>>221127
>man playoff and his was arguably more impressive.
it wasn't. tacoyasu in absolutely kino choking fashion, was injured in the last match and couldn't fight. it was basically just abi vs takakeisho

Anonymous No. 221131

>>221127
We're putting just as much stock in them as the JSA is. And it arguably fucking wasn't.
>>221129
Nine (where did you even get eight?) but only six when Terunofuji was a yokozuna.

Anonymous No. 221132

>>221129
They fought once in the last two and a half years you actual copter. You think Hosh can't have improved in that time?

Anonymous No. 221133

>>221129
That's less of an indictment of Hoshoryu and more proof of how much a big dick yokozuna Terunofuji was before his injuries.

Onosato, Kotozakura, Kirishima, and Hoshoryu COMBINED are 3-30 against Terunofuji. And those 3 wins came when Terunofuji was on his last legs.

Anonymous No. 221134

>>221133
Terunofuji wasn't yokozuna before his injuries, which only makes his dick bigger honestly. The guy could've been legendary if he only had knees.

Anonymous No. 221135

>>221132
No he had hoshoryuā€™s number but koto had a win why couldnā€™t hosh muster ONE

Anonymous No. 221137

>>221135
>why couldnā€™t hosh muster ONE
Because Hosh had to pull out of that basho near the end due to Zak's fat ass making him do the splits.

Anonymous No. 221138

>>221135
Hosh still struggles against big guys, and Teru was the biggest

Anonymous No. 221139

>>221135
He got hurt that tournament.

Anonymous No. 221140

>>221138
Did you miss the part where Hosh keeps casually throwing Onosato?

Anonymous No. 221141

>>221138
This >>221140 and he beat Kinbozan twice this tournament. What other big guys are there that you want him to beat?

Anonymous No. 221142

If hosh gets promoted itā€™s only because they need to sell tickets abroad

Anonymous No. 221143

>>221142
I'm okay with that.

Anonymous No. 221144

>>221143
Iā€™m not this is a tradition not a spectacle

Anonymous No. 221146

>>221144
>*holds event inside a large arena and broadcasts it on national TV*
WHY DO PEOPLE THINK SUMO IS A SPECTACLE???

Anonymous No. 221147

>>221144
The spectacle is the tradition.

Anonymous No. 221148

>>221135
Terunofuji is simply a nightmare match-up for Hosh. Not only is he way bigger and stronger, but he's also a skilled belt wrestler who's too savvy to run himself into a Hosh throw. Hosh now could take a win off crippled Teru, but Hosh even at his best would struggle against prime Teru.

Anonymous No. 221149

>>221144
And tradition is there's at least one yokozuna, the pre-Akebono period was an exception and only lasted half a year.

Anonymous No. 221150

>>221148
We don't actually know what Hosh's best looks like. For all we know he could only just be hitting his stride. You can only really compare dudes in hindsight.

Anonymous No. 221152

>>221149
>the pre-Akebono period was an exception and only lasted half a year.
It would take less than half a year to just wait until the next basho and remove all doubt on whether Hosh deserves it or not.

Anonymous No. 221153

>Yokozuna talk
I kinda hate hoshityu
I kinda hate kotoACKura
I kinda hate tobizaru
But I really hate Abi. Ozeki never ever lol.

Anonymous No. 221154

>>221152
>Hosh doesn't deserve it because Onosato won
>Onosato doesn't deserve it because Kotozakura won
>Kotozakura doesn't deserve it because Hosh won
Repeat.

Anonymous No. 221155

>>221154
Wouldn't be the worst

Anonymous No. 221156

>>221148
Hosh wouldnā€™t even beat 12-3 teru last yusho

Anonymous No. 221159

>>221154
I would be down for this, it sounds like kino. Maybe another guy can sneak up to ozeki in the meantime

Anonymous No. 221160

I didn't even watch any of this basho because of the lack of natto

Anonymous No. 221161

>>221160
>he didn't know
https://theforevercove.com/

Anonymous No. 221162

>>221161
I already spoiled myself with the results so it seems pointless now

Anonymous No. 221164

>>221059
Not to be mistaken with Hokutofuji Daiki (Daiki Nakamura)

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Anonymous No. 221168

>>221156
Bitch fucking please, Hosh would've given the robotic cunt a run for his money and you know it. Teru's last yusho was clamp or die because he couldn't fight any other way. But god what a great man. Calling him great for winning 10 yushos means jack shit, if his knees hadn't imploded he would've won 20 and been one of the greatest. What a sad story.

Anonymous No. 221170

>>221168
To continue on this, hearing that Teru swore to retire after his next loss when WTK beat him on day one this time fucking broke me. He asked Takeru to dew sweep for him and had his wife and kid in the crowd the next day because the dude expected to break down and fucking die day two. Takanosho and Kirishima should consider themselves blessed that they lost to such a glorious yokozuna before his retirement, and I don't doubt that this is a huge factor in why Kirishima found the fighting spirit to win 10 straight and make people remember why this time last year HE was the yokozuna candidate.

We got to watch a majestic flame burn itself out.

Anonymous No. 221172

Extrapolate your expectations on what is now the very early stages of yet another Daieisho possible ozeki promotion campaign

Here is mine: he has shown in the past that he is very nearly capable of making the grade as ozeki, having come as close as 31 win in 3 consecutive tournaments, or 32 if you count a score he got while ranked M1, but he has never been able to close the deal so far. He is going to turn 32 later this year so if he doesn't make it now he probably never will

Anonymous No. 221173

>>221170
Teru was mid, he had the potential to be great, but he chose to be an alcoholic instead, many such cases

Anonymous No. 221174

>>221173
Bait post.

Anonymous No. 221175

>>221172
Who the hell thinks Daieisho is ozeki material? He's the king of S1e.

Anonymous No. 221180

>>221175
insane people in the mbovo chat thought daiesho was ozeki material. hes trash

Anonymous No. 221181

>>221180
his yusho was right around the time that twitch channel really took off, him sweeping the sanyaku in the first week would have been a lot of the twitch crowd's first impression of sumo

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>>220785
>>220792
>everything known about that period of sumo is from legends
No, there's a great amount of written records. It's just that very little of the truly ancient material is descriptive/narrative, and almost none of it is translated anyhow. Think of long pages of:
>7th day of the 3rd month of the 2nd year of Kan'bo. Sumo at Kyoto. Tsuneyo defeated the Hote Netsuki by groin-kick. Munehira defeated Ujinaga by striking. Tomotaka and Masatsuka drew after a long battle.

Also, the shorts are real.

Anonymous No. 221183

>>221182
I would accept international sumo if they at least wore those kinds of shorts.

Anonymous No. 221184

>>221182
>Tsuneyo defeated the Hote Netsuki by groin-kick
Imagine if 'bozan just kicked Neph in the balls.

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Anonymous No. 221185

>>221042
>Announcing that the YDC are convening to discuss Hoshoryu publicly in the middle of the arena with a huge crowd of spectators watching plus live on television and then not promoting him would be so fucking dumb lmao
The way I read your post was as if the YDC came down from the stands after the playoffs and did a monoii-style discussion in the middle of the dohyou about Hoshoryu's promotion for half an hour, before the YDC chairman got on the mic
>ćˆć‡ć‡ć€ćŸć ä»Šć®å”č­°ć«ć¤ć„ć¦ć”čŖ¬ę˜Žć„ćŸć—ć¾ć™ć€‚å”ä¼šē†äŗ‹ćÆč±Šę˜‡é¾ć«ęØŖē¶±ę˜‡é€²ćØäøŠć’ć¾ć—ćŸćŒć€ę˜‡é€²ć«ćÆäøč¶³ć§ćÆćŖ恄恋ćØē‰©čØ€ć„ćŒć¤ćć€å”č­°ć—ćŸēµęžœć€ę˜‡é€²ć«ćÆäøč¶³ć‚悊态ē¶±å–ć‚ŠćÆē¶šććØę±ŗå®šć„ćŸć—ć¾ć™ć€‚

Anonymous No. 221186

>>221185
Not even bothering to translate that gay shit. Hosh is #74.

Anonymous No. 221187

>>221185
>YDC gunbai dori

Anonymous No. 221189

if he actually gets promoted with this his uncle's gonna tear him apart lmao

Anonymous No. 221191

I'd wait one more tournament, no downside to it.

Anonymous No. 221192

>>221191
Exactly. If he could put up on more performance like this I think he'll have demonstrated he's consistent enough.

Anonymous No. 221196

>>221189
Why?

Anonymous No. 221197

>>221196
13-2JY 12-3Y is weak.

Anonymous No. 221198

>>221197
Yeah but he has no ability to deny a promotion, right? It really isn't up to him if they are so desperate they promote him.

Anonymous No. 221199

this is a desperation promotion of a candidate that is at best marginally qualified, hopefully he will put in the work to eventually earn the gift he is being given but more likely he will sit on his ass and put up a bunch of 10-5s & 9-6s like kakuryu did.
he won't be able to win as easily when all the other wrestlers smell easy kinboshis & shukun shos, everyone is going to be gunning for him.
the last yokozuna candidate that got promoted with anywhere near as weak a performance was kisenosato with 26 wins in a JY, Y pair and that was controversial at the time and did not end up working out well.

Anonymous No. 221200

>>221184
kinBALLZan

Anonymous No. 221201

>>221198
No, but that won't stop him from talking shit

Anonymous No. 221202

>>221199
That's why I keep saying he has to win next time, or people will be skeptical of him. But if he wins next time and even if he sucks after that then at least he would have been promoted regardless.

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Anonymous No. 221203

>>221199
>marginally qualified
8 of the 33 yokozuna since the 6-basho era have been promoted with 25 or worse.

Anonymous No. 221204

>>221032
Sumo isn't a sport. Shameful display.

Anonymous No. 221205

>>221203
How many since futahagaro

Anonymous No. 221208

>>221205
What does that have to do with being qualified?

Anonymous No. 221209

>>221205
he was promoted in '86 so that's Hokutoumi and Onokuni.

sadly, if hosh gets it, he will be the first to get promoted after losing to 3 maegashira. Wakanohana III is the closest one - he lost to 2 maegashira in his 12-3Y to get promotion.

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Anonymous No. 221210

>>221204

Anonymous No. 221215

Okay, sweetys. Let's talk some FACTS. Neph's victory was anything but dominant, which in on itself should disqualify him from getting the rope after a loss. Hosh is clearly straining himself for those results and is insanely likely to underperform as yokozuna during the next basho.
We're also forgetting the fact that this is not his second win in a row, but his second win PERIOD after years in the top division.
Never took a win against the reigning yokozuna either, even Teru, who, while good, is definitely not even remotely close to Hakuho and his uncle.
The people who might promote him will be getting the blame if he becomes a gaijin Kisenosato in the era of everyone being tired of mongols and they know it.

Promoting him now would be nothing short of preferential treatment. And even the braindead mongoloid fans who cheer for it are setting themselves up for a disaster.

Anonymous No. 221216

>>221210
Congrats, you found a katakana that totally proves you right. Now translate the rest of the paragraph.

Anonymous No. 221217

>>221215
nice wall of text, but anyway, hosh did what he had to do, get yusho. it's up to shimpan and YDC to fuck it all up. i like hosh but he should not be promoted, yet. Hopefully YDC doesn't approve it.

Anonymous No. 221218

>>č±Šę˜‡é¾ć€ęØŖē¶±ć«ę˜‡é€²ć—ćŸć£ć¦!NHKć§ęµć‚ŒćŸ!

well, rip

Anonymous No. 221219

https://hochi.news/articles/20250127-OHT1T51160.html?page=1
>The Yokozuna Deliberation Committee, an advisory body to the Japan Sumo Association, met on the 27th at the Ryogoku Kokugikan in Sumida Ward, Tokyo, and decided to recommend Toyonoriryu (Tatsunami), an ozeki who won his second Grand Sumo Hatsu Basho, as the 74th Yokozuna. All nine committee members were in attendance and the decision was unanimous.

Evil spirit bros...it was supposed to be our time in the haru basho...

Anonymous No. 221220

>>221219
good luck neph

Anonymous No. 221221

>>221215
Nice wall of cope.

Anonymous No. 221222

>>221219
>first nephew promoted to yokozuna
>second nephew in jonokuchi
The cycle starts anew. Good luck Hoshoryu, please do not grow to be a kinboshi printer for our sake.

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Anonymous No. 221224

>>221222
unless he will be worse dispenser than harumafuji, he's ok.

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Anonymous No. 221225

>>221216
>Now translate the rest of the paragraph
Do you know what čˆˆč”Œ is?

Anonymous No. 221226

You need a strong yusho!
>kotozakura gets injured
>teru retires
Alright maybe just yushoā€¦.

Anonymous No. 221227

>huuur let's promote a guy who is clearly not good enough in hopes that he will magically adjust himself due to the pressure
Another 1-2 yuusho side rope embarrassment incoming.

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Anonymous No. 221228

Oh, I didn't even need to go as far afield as wikipedia, lol

Anonymous No. 221230

>>221225
You already got caught for being a dumb ESL and you respond by yet again cherrypicking words out of context instead of translating the entire paragraph like you were asked to.
Stop being such an embarrassing sped.

Anonymous No. 221231

>>221230
>>221228
kill yourself

Anonymous No. 221235

I hope Hoshoryu becomes a good Yokozuna, but this promotion feels undeserved. If he is truly good, he would have reached this rank under better conditions, and I do not see Hoshoryu winning in March.

The fact that Kisenosato, for example, won his shin-yokozuna basho does not invalidate the criticism of him being handed the promotion.

Anonymous No. 221236

>>221173
Fun fact: Yokozuna Hoshoryu has been abstaining from alcohol for the past year.

Anonymous No. 221237

Sure, Hosh dropped a couple to some maegashira, but he also beat the sanyaku he faced this basho and also the guys who are going to be the sanyaku NEXT basho. One of those twice. Rope deserved.

Anonymous No. 221238

>>221237
5-10
6-9
7-8

What do the guys with these rankings have in common?

Anonymous No. 221239

>>221238
They all fucked your mother last night?

Anonymous No. 221240

>>221239
They all fucked hoshzuna

Fify

Anonymous No. 221241

>>221238
11-4
12-3 x2
11-4
12-3 x2
10-5
10-5
What do THESE guys have in common?

Anonymous No. 221242

so who's the first to get a kinboshi off horseshitryu?

Anonymous No. 221243

KNEEL to your new Mongol God /sumo/

Anonymous No. 221244

>>221242
Abi would probably have the first crack at it. I think...?

Anonymous No. 221245

you guys are so hilarious, shittalking place no.1

Anonymous No. 221246

How bad will hoshoryu have to do for them to recommend him to retire

Anonymous No. 221247

>>221246
Consistently worse than the other Ozeki.

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Anonymous No. 221249

>>221246

Anonymous No. 221251

>>221249
>Onokuni x3.
Good for nothing cunt.

Anonymous No. 221252

I'm fine with Hoshoryu as a Yokozuna. Always felt it was a matter of time.

That said, the allegations of bias against Takakeisho just got stronger. He had the same result and was not promoted. They also didn't promote him to Ozeki the first time he had 33 wins starting from Komosubi.
He would have a far better career and a far better rivalry with Teru if he achieved the ranking and could rest when injured.

Anonymous No. 221254

>>221252
His 11-4 jy 10-5 12-pp jy 12-3Y shouldā€™ve really gotten him the rope he couldā€™ve taken time off and then come back tearing people apart

Anonymous No. 221255

>>221252
He did not have the same result.

Anonymous No. 221258

>>221252
>>221254
again, hamster was a 1 trick pony, the second you got his mawashi, he was done.

he would also be totally out of breath just by doing dohyou-iri.

Anonymous No. 221261

>>221258
Doesnā€™t matter he won thatā€™s all that mattered

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Anonymous No. 221262

I wonder how he is feeling right now. Propably seething

Anonymous No. 221263

>>221261
Not as much as Hoshoryu. In 2020 when he went 12-3J, 13-2Y he won 53. In 2022 when had the 12-3D, 12-3Y he won 61.
Hoshoryu won 63 over the past six. Hoshoryu is more deserving.

Anonymous No. 221264

>>221262
Heā€™s always a step behind a step behind in hosh but he has been better than hoshoryu recently and itā€™s not even close most wins in 2024 a win against a Yokozuna. He should be seething he got gifted the rope on a weak ass performance and if he was in peak condition this wouldnā€™t have happened.

Anonymous No. 221265

>>221208
Because the "two yusho or equivalent in a row" standard wasn't adopted until after Futahaguro was kicked out. They're judging Hosh on today's standard, not the standard of 60 years ago.

Anonymous No. 221267

>>221263
>two behind the new ā€œyokozunaā€ with a broken body
Imagine if he was 100%

Anonymous No. 221268

>>221267
Imagine if Hoshoryu had been 100% this past year
Imagine if Terunofuji had
Imagine if Hakuho had
Imagine in one hand, shit in the other. See which fills up first.

Anonymous No. 221269

>>221265
Correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but was Asahifuji the first Ozeki to be promoted to Yokozuna under the updated/tightened standards? Hokutoumi and Onokuni came after Futahaguroā€™s promotion but before his expulsion.

If we look at all promotions from Asahifuji onwards Hoshoryu will be the only one to be promoted on less than 26 wins.

Of course, if Hoshryu rises to the moment and starts cranking out cup-winning performances then it wonā€™t matter but if he sticks around for six or seven years and only wins a handful of cups, that will be a bad look.

Anonymous No. 221270

>>221269
>if he sticks around for six or seven years and only wins a handful of cups
Then he will have been a capable, average yokozuna. Stop comparing everyone to Hakuho.

Anonymous No. 221272

>>221268
>imagine if hoshoryu was 100%
Being sad about your coach dying is no reason to go 8-7 he was 100% heā€™s mid and got promoted for ticket sells

Anonymous No. 221273

>>221270
Show me where I brought up Hakuho or stop putting words in peopleā€™s mouths.

Hoshoryu is 25. We can expect him to be in sumo around seven more years. Historically speaking, that would be a long reign for a Yokozuna. They typically only last a few years. Yokozuna who are promoted young tend to last long (obviously) but also win huge numbers of cups

Imagine if he just hangs around forever and wins a cup every year or every two years?

Anonymous No. 221274

>>221269
Correct, and immediately after Futahaguro retired Asahifuji was turned down for promotion multiple times in late 1988 and early 1989 until he finally won two in a row in 1990.
>>221273
>Imagine if he just hangs around forever and wins a cup every year or every two years?
So, Kakuryu.

Anonymous No. 221275

>>221273
> Imagine if he just hangs around forever and wins a cup every year or every two years?
Kakuryu? Granted, he was older when he got promoted and immediately entered the perma-injured phase of his career.

What happens when Onosato hits high gear and starts gobbling up all the yusho in sight?

Anonymous No. 221276

>>221261
no, that's what you think. they want a complete package for yokozuna, not a guy who can be beaten easily with simple yotsu.

Anonymous No. 221278

>>221274
>>221275
Kakuryu was 29 when he was promoted.

The guys who were promoted when they were 25 or younger are guys like Taiho, Kitanoumi, Takanohana, Asashoryu, etc.
he has a huge standard to have to live up to.

Anonymous No. 221279

>>221242
My guess is Takayasu

Anonymous No. 221280

>>221272
You didn't watch. He had a bum leg.

Anonymous No. 221281

>>221273
>Imagine if he just hangs around forever and wins a cup every year or every two years?
THEN HE WOULD BE FUCKING NORMAL YOU DUMB FUCK. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP HAKUHO.

Anonymous No. 221283

Imagine if Horseshit never wins back to back tournaments and only gets like 3 or less more cups over 8 more years

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Anonymous No. 221284

When does Hoshoryu get his seabream?

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Anonymous No. 221285

>>221284

also:

Hoshoryu's chosen dohyo-iri / rope style is Unryu, same as Asashoryu.
He will be taught the ritual on the 30th by Musashigawa oyakata (former Musashimaru), as per custom, wherein a former Yokozuna from the same ichimon is the teacher.

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Anonymous No. 221286

>>221275
>Onosato hits high gear and starts gobbling up all the yusho in sight
Not going to happen, fellow Onosatobro.

Anonymous No. 221289

>>221286
Onosato is the future cheap throws and pull downs will only work for so long this only his sixth tournament in the joi. Heā€™s just too big and too good

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Anonymous No. 221290

>>221285
thank you, cool info. still can't believe this motherfucker is gonna be a Yokozuna, first time I've seen a new one since I started watching in 2022

Anonymous No. 221292

>>221197
JSA said his JY was a Y in their eyes, so he essentially went 13-2Y 12-3Y with a three win playoff. That's a fine promotion desu.

I fully expect uncle to appear at Tatsunami and spar with neph though. That'll be some good shit for youtube.

Anonymous No. 221293

>>221292
>That's a fine promotion desu.
Wasn't good enough for Takakeisho who did almost the exact same thing

Anonymous No. 221294

>>221293
>It wasn't good enough for this completely different wrestler who did worse
Are you retarded?

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Anonymous No. 221295

>>221262
>I could've had an office job but nooooo, they just HAD to push me into sumo

Anonymous No. 221296

>>221294
>12-3JY and a 13-2Y with a playoff is somehow worse than a 13-2JY and a 12-3Y with a playoff
Are YOU retarded?

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Anonymous No. 221297

>>221296
Yes. It is. A 12-3 runner up is not an equivalent. Unless you have a source saying he was up for promotion at the time? And that's all as may be anyway. Look at the fucking results. Takakeisho was not a contender. He was a question mark.

Anonymous No. 221298

>>221296
The only time a 12 win jun has been equivalent in the post-Futahaguro era was with Kisenosato, which a) was influenced by Kise being the second strongest ozeki in JSA history, and b) was widely panned anyway. 13 wins was strong enough for Hosh's jun to be equivalent.

Anonymous No. 221299

>>221296
>Are YOU retarded?
>Yes.
Great. Thank you.

Anonymous No. 221300

>>221258
The important thing is the results and he got good results when healthy. His problem was never a lack of effectiveness due to being one dimensional.
And if he were promoted to Yokozuna he would be healthier.

They held him to a higher standard than others and at times were unfair to him. I remember one tournament where he got the Jun Yusho (I think Teru won that one) and they complained that "all Ozeki are bad" because the other ones had terrible results.

>>221293
Hoshoryu is not Takanohana's disciple. They might not be in love with Asashoryu but then, Asashoryu is more of a Kinbozan fan and probably is more of a Hoshoryu hater than anyone else.

I have seen a few cases where they said "32 wins will be enough for Ozeki promotion" to a few rikishi while 33 was not enough for Takakeisho the first time around.

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Anonymous No. 221301

'keisho didn't get it because

1) He's a terrible ambassador for the sport considering he's embarrassingly large
2) His style of sumo isn't particularly exciting
3) They already had two yokozuna
4) His 12-3J 13-2Y is nowhere near as impressive as nephew's was. Did they come out before the tournament and say that Takakeisho was up for promotion because they considered his JY to be a Y? No? Well then

When Takakeisho fights you know he's just gonna push. When neph fights he could yorikiri, or he could throw, or he could just pick his opponent up and carry them out. Just look at the kimarite he's used to win his last 3 fights against Kirishima (who this time last year was up for zuna promotion).

Hoshoryu didn't blaze up to yokozuna the way guys like Chiyonofuji or uncle did but he's passed the post imo.

Anonymous No. 221302

>>221301
Healthy Takakeisho was pretty much guaranteed to get 12 wins. This is Yokozuna sumo.

Anonymous No. 221303

>>221281
Show me the Yokozuna promoted that young and put up a performance like that.

Iā€™ll wait. Youā€™re gonna be a while.

Anonymous No. 221304

>>221301
>His 12-3J 13-2Y is nowhere near as impressive as nephew's was.
I'd say his yusho was since he actually beat terunofuji, which hoshoryu literally never did. Other than that they were really similar, actually. Takakeisho even lost to Shodai in his JY. Honestly I'd say his JY was porobably better than Hosh's since he at least lost to Tochinoshin, a former Ozeki. Hosh lost to fucking Abi.

Anonymous No. 221305

>>221303
That's not the point. It would be great if he did that. You seem to think it would be terrible.

>>221302
>Healthy Takakeisho
Didn't exist.

Anonymous No. 221306

>>221304
>I'd say his yusho was since he actually beat terunofuji
Teru was an 8 win M1e in that tournament.

Anonymous No. 221307

>>221304
And I'd say you are oblivious.

Anonymous No. 221308

>>221300
just like barry sander's dad, giving more praise to jim brown than his own son

>>221301
i'm not sure what's up with anons here, but everyone seems to be pampered by hakuho's era or something.. your average yokozuna isn't like that. chiyonofuji and asashoryu etc are the ultimates. We may be happy to even see a yokozuna on dohyou, let alone facerolling everyone.

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Anonymous No. 221309

>>221304
>he actually beat terunofuji, which hoshoryu literally never did
That's because Teru was already peaking while Hosh was just starting his career. Saying Hosh is a bad zuna because he didn't beat Teru in juryo is fucking dumb, Teru should never have been down there in the first place.

Hosh has only gotten better and stronger as time has gone on because that's literally how progress works. Teru never fought ozeki level Hosh once.

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Anonymous No. 221310

Takakeisho had his chance. He had the misfortune of still overlapping with the late Hakuho era, but then for years enjoyed a time of perma-absent yokozunas and aged and injured opponents and couldn't do it.
He was competing with the likes of Asanoyama and Shodai and a bunch of randoms. By the time he got injured, that window of opportunity was gone.

Hosh may not have an impressive score, but if you have any doubts, re-watch his wins and losses from the past year, and especially the past 2 bashos. He is Y tier, by far the most skilled man out there. Yes, he's not an Asashoryu or Hakuho, but he's more like a Harumafuji and that's fine. He's quality, unlike hamster and especially unlike the ozeki shitters we've seen come and go.
If he managed to stay healthy for the next 5 years and gets 1 yusho per year (and we assume Zak or Takerufuji rises up alongside him soon), he'll retire with around 7-10 yushos, which is perfect and indicates a strong Y.

Anonymous No. 221311

>>221308
>Asashoryu was actually a Chessmaster and didn't support Hoshoryu because he knew the JSA would be harsher against Hoshoryu if he did it

Anonymous No. 221312

>>221307
>And I'd say you are oblivious.
Doesn't mean much when I posted actual information and all you can talk about is me, something you probably know even less about than what we're actually talking about.

At the end of the day I'm not even saying Keisho should've been promoted. I'm saying NEITHER of them should be yet. It's premature for Hosh and I haven't seen anyone make a good argument for it. All anyone really has is "Well yeah it's early but maybe he can prove he deserved it..." which isn't a great attitude.

>>221309
>Saying Hosh is a bad zuna because he didn't beat Teru in juryo is fucking dumb
I didn't say that, we were just comparing the strength of JYs. He might be a great Yokozuna, but if he has that potential then there's no harm in waiting for him to show one more good tournament.

Anonymous No. 221313

>>221310
He had a JY+Y combination twice. One of which had as many victories as the one that led to the current promotion

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Anonymous No. 221314

>>221310
This. Takakeisho "what-if-ers" can fuck right off.

Anonymous No. 221315

>>221313
>One of which had as many victories
It did not in the ways that mattered and you need to get that through your tiny peabrain head.

Anonymous No. 221316

>>221314
If the JSA had the same rule for him as they have for everyone else.
For some people, they stated 32 wins would be enough for Ozeki. For Takakeisho, 33 wins was not enough the first time around.

Anonymous No. 221317

The JSA want sumo to be exciting. Hosh's 13-2JY was exciting because the very last fight of the basho was a 13-1 face-off between to two highest rank men in the basho. It was basically the perfect basho. His 12-3Y was exciting because it came down to a three way play off, and our man completely crushed it winning three fights in 20 minutes. The next basho is going to be even more hyped up than this one was.

>>221312
>there's no harm in waiting for him to show one more good tournament
That's two months of formalities that can't be conducted due to sumo not having a zuna to conduct them, when Hosh has already crossed the line set for him anyway (14 wins due to the three way tie EYE EM OH).

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Anonymous No. 221318

>>221314
God damn, Hakuho was so good.

Anonymous No. 221319

>>221312
>I posted actual information
See the attached picture. >>221297.
Takakeisho: 7 double digit wins
Hoshoryu: 9 double digit wins
Takakeisho: 29 absences
Hoshoryu: 6 absences
The information is there.
>I'm saying NEITHER of them should be yet.
Goalposts? Has anybody seen the goalposts? I think some faggot moved them.

Anonymous No. 221320

>>221305
>You seem to think it would be terrible.
again, putting words in peopleā€™s mouths.

No one else is bringing up Hakuho. EVERYONE understands he was an aberration. You donā€™t need to reiterate it. Relax.

Anonymous No. 221321

>>221318
A small child could've made that final push.

Anonymous No. 221322

>>221321
....

Anonymous No. 221323

>>221310
If Hosho sticks around for 5+ years, consistently getting a couple JY year, a Yusho, and otherwise getting 10 wins I would say he's had a good career. The thing I want is someone at the top that puts the chaos in order. Someone who is consistently good and a huge wall for anyone trying to take a cup to get over. Without a strong guy/guys on top things stop making sense.

Anonymous No. 221324

>>221322
Keisho only had 5 seconds of fight in him and that webm is 32 seconds long.

Anonymous No. 221325

>>221320
Then why do you keep bringing up your scenario? Do you think it would be a good thing?

Anonymous No. 221326

Hosh is going to go 14-1 and the retards here will call him a kinboshi printer.

Anonymous No. 221327

>>221325
he brought it up once in his first post you just keep badgering him for some reason

Anonymous No. 221328

>>221327
If he keeps responding, I will continue to point out that he's wrong. Pretty simple really.

Anonymous No. 221329

>>221326
His first match as Yokozuna should be Oho, who should be the west komusubi. It would only be fitting to lose to the man who saved his Yokozuna bid by beating Kinbozan.

Anonymous No. 221330

>>221323
Yep. Expect one or two guys to achieve similar results and get Y promotions, where they consistently put up double digits and challenge for the yusho but noone stomping the whole calendar year like we've used to see in the past decades. I'm betting on chicken legs, then Zak and slightly less favouring Onosato but still a possibility. We'll settle into this by the end of 2025 and that'll be the end of these clown bashos with maegashiras constantly in the yusho race.

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>>221329
I think Gonoyama, actually.

Anonymous No. 221332

>>221329
West will be Abi. Demoting WTK on 7-8 but not demoting Abi on 7-8 would be grossly unfair.

>>221330
Why would you favour Zak over Onosato? Someone who sometimes yushos is a better zuna than someone who always goes 11-4.

Anonymous No. 221333

>>221332
Right, Onosato is actually already more successful than Zak.
Still, I see Onosato as Asanoyama 2.0, someone who'll fail to live up to (ultimate) expectations, largely due to having Kisenosato as coach. Somehow I feel Takerufuji will overtake him. As for Zak, I expect he's got a huge motivation boost now with Hosh's promotion.

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Anonymous No. 221334

>>221323
A breakdown of yokozuna by age at time of promotion vs how many yusho they won. (This is a little older so Terunofujiā€™s total is off)

Anonymous No. 221335

>>221203
right but name some of them, they all sucked. hakkaku was the only on that was even marginally successful and he won only one cup in the two years following his promotion.
good wrestlers don't need special treatment to get promoted because they're already banging away 14-1s & zenshos. even zak can put up a 14-1 when he isn't injured.

god save us, hopefully onosato, takerufuji or aonishiki can develop into real yokozunas before horseshit's discount kinboshi giveaways bankrupt the jsa. the zabutons are going to be flying so regularly that tokyo won't see any sunlight at all during basho fortnights.

Anonymous No. 221336

>>221209
>Onokuni
he had a 15-0 immediately preceding his 12 & 13 win JYs
and he still sucked

Anonymous No. 221337

>>221335
> the zabutons are going to be flying so regularly
Arenā€™t they bolted down at one of the arenas?

Anonymous No. 221338

>>221335
>god save us, hopefully onosato, takerufuji or aonishiki can develop into real yokozunas before horseshit's discount kinboshi giveaways bankrupt the jsa. the zabutons are going to be flying so regularly that tokyo won't see any sunlight at all during basho fortnights.
kek, there is chance this could happen though

Anonymous No. 221339

The real question is whoā€™s the next ozeki in the making besides chicken legs

Anonymous No. 221340

>>221333
Zak's problem isn't motivation; it's family. You know that thing American parents do where they push their kids too hard in sports because they want to vicariously redeem their own childhood failures through them? Zak is that kid.

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Anonymous No. 221341

>>221334
So it could go either way, I suppose.

Anonymous No. 221342

>>221339
Right now no one. Daieisho and Kirishima both got the first bashos of what could be a run, but only Kirishima is capable of it and even then he could -ACK at any time.

Anonymous No. 221343

>>221337
It is unclear.

Anonymous No. 221344

>>221215
>The people who might promote him will be getting the blame if he becomes a gaijin Kisenosato
This, if the YDC doesn't commit mass seppuku after horse's inevitable 10-5 or worse debut then they have no honor.

Anonymous No. 221345

>>221342
Itā€™s doesnā€™t have to be right now but I think Aonishiki and hakuoho will be there shortly

Anonymous No. 221346

>>221345
If we're talking lower ranked guys on the up then it's Takeru and Oho.

Anonymous No. 221348

>>221346
Iā€™m not sold on oho yet competition this basho was pretty weak

Anonymous No. 221349

>>221348
Oho isn't on an ozeki run, he's on a run to avoid double digit losses in March.

Anonymous No. 221350

its never even been half as over before as it is right now

Anonymous No. 221351

>>221341
So the average for past that line is 5.56 yusho (if you donā€™t include Chiyonofuji, who was a freak) or 7.06 (including the Wolf)

Figure Hoshoryu wins a single yusho per year for the rest of his career and that would make him slightly above average.

The only real difference though is that the current makuuchi is much weaker than in previous eras and a lone, healthy yokozuna should be more dominant than not.

Anonymous No. 221352

Is Shishi getting a clue or he'll stay as a yoyo wrestler alternating between lower maegashira and Juryo until injury finally puts him out of the salaried ranks and he retires?

Anonymous No. 221353

>>221317
>It was basically the perfect basho

The worst take in this entire thread, maybe even this entire board.

You are out of your fucking mind. Hosh getting promoted off this yard sale is an EMBARASSMENT.

It was a total shit show basho with zero consistency saved by maegashira fucking jobbing to other maegashira. Perfect my fucking ass. Nobody was hype for this crap until the literal moment a playoff happened. And even then, it only went how it was supposed to, which if the rest of the basho had done that, the playoff wouldn't have been needed in the first place. Not one single rikishi showed anything of worth at any point. What, should I be impressed that an Ozeki beat two maegashira? Give me a fucking break. Hosh losing to shitters is why that was a situation to begin with. It was a joke of a basho and your opinion is fucking silly. Fucking twit.

Anonymous No. 221354

>>221348
>>221349
Honestly, Iā€™m just happy he had a good tournament.
I was a Myogiryu fan when I started following Naya/Oho, so my standards are comparatively low. Iā€™m not looking for ozeki, just good hard fights and maybe a cheeky cup win.

Anonymous No. 221355

>>221351
I'm guessing actually that era of weakness is over. Looking back at the top division of 2025 January 10 years later, we may find it a respectable crowd. A lot of guys in there are presumably before their peak now, not way after like how it was in 2022.

Anonymous No. 221356

>>221352
Shishi is a dark horse ozeki or Zuna he has the size just look at them thighs hosh will never be able to throw that man he just needs the skill

Anonymous No. 221357

>>221353
Weak bait, but have a (You)

Anonymous No. 221358

>>221354
He hosed my kachi clash once so Iā€™ve been avoiding him but heā€™s looking great

Anonymous No. 221359

>>221357
Suck a turd out my ass if you want some bait, you dumb bitch

Calling out retards isn't bait, that post wasn't and this one isn't either, you fucking drooling moron.

Anonymous No. 221361

>>221353
>getting this mad but not even understanding that he was talking about November not January
lel

Anonymous No. 221363

>>221353
They hated him because he spoke the truth

Anonymous No. 221364

>>221355
Yeah, thatā€™s what Iā€™m getting at. Right now thereā€™s a lot of talent that still has growth in them (Takerufuji, Onosato, Oho, Hakuoho, Aonishiki, Atamifuji)
Hoshoryu is kind of the oldest of that cohort and matured first.

Once they hit their peaks, the level of competition could really heat up.

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Anonymous No. 221365

>Joke-ozuna

Anonymous No. 221366

>>221339
I just want my boy Daieisho to get there

Anonymous No. 221367

>>221366
I enjoy Daieisho as well but he always chokes

Anonymous No. 221368

>>221361
Yeah I totally misunderstood when he said Hosh's 12-3Y which OBVIOUSLY refers to the November basho that Hosh lost with a 13-2JY, which is why I explicity talked about the yusho and not the jy, because that would make fucking sense.

You are an insufferably arrogant fucking retarded moron.

Anonymous No. 221369

>>221364
>atamamifuji
Sempai thought he could slide tomatoe in there without us knowing

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Anonymous No. 221370

>>221344
10-5 wouldn't be the worst

Anonymous No. 221371

>>221352
He will have a good amount of banzuke real estate below him in March so he could do pretty bad and still stay in the division.

>>221356
His upper body has developed quite a bit since back in 2023 when he was all legs, he even has traps now, he could end up being quite a monster if he keeps on developing at the same pace. Imagine Aonishiki's upper body on Shishi's legs, but proportionate.

Anonymous No. 221372

>>221368
>the very last fight of the basho was a 13-1 face-off between to two highest rank men in the basho
Anon....

Anonymous No. 221373

HORSESHITRYU IS GONNA RETIRE WITH 0 YUSHOS AS A YOKOZUNA

screencap this

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Anonymous No. 221374

>>221369
If his injury is healed in March, look for him to farm mid rankers over the first 10 days and compete for the cup. It'll be his first basho ranked below joi in a long time, he JY'd both of his other two below joi bashoes and that was all the way back in 2023, he is way stronger now if he is healthy.

Anonymous No. 221375

>>221374
Why is he dressed as Macedonia?

Anonymous No. 221376

>>221373
Screenshotting so we can both laugh at this absolutely desperate move by the Jsa and ydc

Anonymous No. 221377

>>221370
>asashoryu 2003: 10-5J
What the fuck happened that basho that 10-5 was the runner up?
>>221368
Buddy you either need to learn to read and calm down if you're serious, or fuck off and stop baiting

Anonymous No. 221378

>>221369
I thought about adding Kotoeiho kek.

Atami will be fine. Heā€™s still only 22 and spent the last year in the joi. People started to figure him out. Heā€™ll go back, learn new tactics, get stronger and have a perfectly fine career like a Takarafuji or Aminishiki.

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Anonymous No. 221379

>>221377

Anonymous No. 221380

>>221372
>>221377
I really can't believe I had to actually quote this for you absolute retards

>His 12-3Y was exciting because it came down to a three way play off, and our man completely crushed it winning three fights in 20 minutes.

NOW WAS I TALKING ABOUT THE JY OR THE Y
Come on you pair of geniuses, bend your mighty comprehension and towering reading abilities to this test and tell me you aren't complete fucking morons (you are).

Goddamn dumbass pieces of stupid retarded shit.

Anonymous No. 221381

>>221345
>Aonishiki
he is still very young and still also on the small side because of that. if he can continue charging up the rankings then he is going to be a monster when he is getting towards his prime in 5 years.

Anonymous No. 221382

>>221380
Then why did you quote the bit about the perfect basho?

Anonymous No. 221383

the evil spirits have infested the thread...

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Anonymous No. 221384

>>221380

Anonymous No. 221386

>>221382
Oh NO you GOT me, that one sentence completely changed the meaning of everything I said! Now everything I said applies ONLY to Hoshs JY and not his Y, even though I was specifically talking about that! Damn! What a blunder!

Get fucked, you stupid retard. Use that comprehension that so bloats your repulsive, swollen ego.

Anonymous No. 221388

>>221353
>saved by maegashira fucking jobbing to other maegashira
Down by two going in to day 12, Hoshoryu convincingly beat the tournament leader to bring himself within one, then won out the rest of the way to give himself a chance, including demonstrating clear superiority over the other two ozeki. When he got that chance, he remained perfect and again convincingly beat both playoff opponents, both of whom he had already defeated in the same tournament.

I, personally, don't think he should've been promoted, but it's obvious the JSA and YDC looked at that display of "never give up" spirit and held it in his favour. They have historically favoured rallying from behind over falling flat at the end. When the chips are down and everyone's exhausted at the end of the long, gruelling tournament, that's when true sumo spirit shines through, or at least that's what they seem to believe. Everyone knows even the greatest yokozuna will drop kinboshi in the first week every so often, it's what they do against the rest of the frontrunners in the second week that makes them true yokozuna.

Anonymous No. 221389

>>221386
>It was a total shit show basho
>Perfect my fucking ass.
Also these two sentences.

Anonymous No. 221391

I think we all gotta take a step back and laugh at the Jsaā€™s desperation for a Yokozuna after them telling us for years they were okay with teru retiring

Anonymous No. 221392

>>221389
Read that post again, you fucking shitwit. That's one characterization which was completely tertiary to my point to begin with.

WHICH IS THE POINT IM MAKING NOW.

Holy FUCK you people are stupid beyond fucking belief. This is like a fucking fever dream of fucking retardation, Jesus fucking christ.

I'm so glad this shit basho is done so I don't have to interact with you total fucking morons any more. Damn the drunk retarded apes that gave birth to such subhuman devolved creatures like you.

Anonymous No. 221393

>>221388
Why is someone as sane as you even here? Go read a book or do something useful.

Anonymous No. 221394

>>221383
It happens after every single basho. In a couple days when the thread goes back to having maybe 4-5 posts per days people will calm down and control themselves

Anonymous No. 221396

>>221394
If only we could see which flag they flew....

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Anonymous No. 221397

>>221392

Anonymous No. 221398

>>221391
Honestly I don't think it was desperation so much as backing themselves into a corner pre-emptively saying the 13-2J was yusho-equivalent. The moment they did that, they opened themselves up to a 12-3Y, or even 11-4Y, being enough to promote. What they should've done and said "given Hoshoryu has already won a yusho at sanyaku, we will consider his promotion if he wins in January with 13 or more wins."

Anonymous No. 221399

>>221388
Good post wasted on its recipient
>>221392
You're a funny guy, I applaud your commitment to the bit

Anonymous No. 221402

>>221398
They said strong yusho and then changed it to yusho

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Anonymous No. 221405

>>221364
takarafuji is older than hoshoryu.
its really only the last three that are young.

Anonymous No. 221406

>>221402
I heard yusho with 14 wins which he did if you count the playoff.
>BUT THE BANZUKE ONLY SAYS 12-3!!!
Seethe. Actually seethe.

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Anonymous No. 221407

>>221383
Let me take care of that for you anon.

Anonymous No. 221409

>>221405
Takarafuji is in fact MUCH older, yes.

Anonymous No. 221410

>>221405
>Hiradoumi shares a birthday with Hitler
uhhh fan club department??? i'd like to submit a new application

Anonymous No. 221411

>>221406
Moving the goal post for the nepo baby

Anonymous No. 221412

At the very least this should shut up the "reee, anti-foreigner bias!" retards.

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Anonymous No. 221413

>>221409
dark days when people only mention my boy because of a typo.

Anonymous No. 221414

>>221412
Heh, good one.

Anonymous No. 221416

>>221413
I miss clicked the autoprompt. it hard to watch him. the strength isn't there and i think he lost the fighting spirit after dropping to juryo. hanging on for the paycheck till the inevitable fall out of salary ranks

Anonymous No. 221417

>>221413
Takarafuji is still only a typo of Takerufuji, sorry.

Anonymous No. 221418

>>221416
He's alternating about the same as he did before he dropped honestly. He hit double digits a couple tournaments back, but once he gets up to mid maegashira he can't hang as well. Just getting old.

Anonymous No. 221419

What would be your style of sumo?
For me, it would be forearm smash to the face -> yorikiri

Anonymous No. 221420

>>221419
I'd not bang the salt off my hand after the throw then my tachiai would be that hand onto the face and over the eyes of my opponent.

Anonymous No. 221421

>>221419
Hit, shift and push out from the side or back. I always think that's sick when it happens.

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Anonymous No. 221422

>>221419
Slap.

Anonymous No. 221423

>>221419
Hassou tobi every match.

Anonymous No. 221425

>>221419
Get the belt and the break their nose or orbital with a sharp elbow they lift out donā€™t see any rule against it

Anonymous No. 221426

>>221425
Probably because if you moved to elbow they would just throw you before you hit them.

Anonymous No. 221427

JSA consistently promotes undeserving mongols because they're afraid of being accused of racism

Anonymous No. 221431

>>221426
Only losers lose to a throw and an elbow from the clinch takes 1 second

https://youtu.be/wC-Wo3HJ9Pw?si=MmJIw0VbPNnJiJ9Q

Anonymous No. 221433

>>221427
>consistently
Name 3.

Anonymous No. 221434

>>221433
Hoshoryu (ozeki), Hoshoryu (yokozuna), Kakuryu

Anonymous No. 221435

>>221431
You sound like you're 12.

Anonymous No. 221436

>>221427
Wow I didn't know Kisenosato was Mongolian.

Anonymous No. 221437

>reddit won
its over...

Anonymous No. 221438

>>221434
If you're going to play that game you should have said Kiribayama.

Anonymous No. 221439

>>221435
And you sound like youā€™ve never been in a fight

Anonymous No. 221440

>>221439
Ditto.

Anonymous No. 221441

>>221431
There's a reason sumo wrestlers don't look like MMA fighters, and there's a reason they don't fight like MMA fighters.

Anonymous No. 221443

>>221441
Iā€™ve watched enough sumo to realize when these fat boys are locked up they donā€™t move a lot one of them could easily pop them with an elbow and get back on the belt rules says not closed fisted strike I donā€™t see anything about elbows

Anonymous No. 221445

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>>221444
>>221444
>>221444
>>221444
>>221444

Anonymous No. 221453

>>221187
>YDC torinaoshi

Anonymous No. 221454

>>221443
Sure there are plenty of ways to injure your opponent, but thats not the point of sumo.
You are misled if you think they would allow shit like that.

Anonymous No. 221455

>>221219
>All nine committee members were in attendance and the decision was unanimous.
Holy shit! I did not expect that. Especially a unanimous decision.

Anonymous No. 221469

>>221418
not talking about his records, more his sumo. he was always like a brick wall, win or lose it. less of that showing through.

Anonymous No. 221470

>>221438
he had 34 wins, a jun, and a yusho in his ozeki run.

Anonymous No. 221478

>>221443
Those fat boys do sumo every day. They are aware of the concept of elbow strikes - they don't do it because generally speaking it doesn't work, and letting go of a good belt grip will usually cause you to lose. If you're very good you can sometimes pull it off - Hakuho did it a few times. Most people aren't as good as Hakuho, though.

Anonymous No. 221489

>>221335
>but name some of them, they all sucked. hakkaku was the only on that was even marginally successful
>Taihou
>Tamanoumi

Anonymous No. 223470

>>217607
Ikazuchi moves up the rankings for sure
Ajigawa gets on the list too
Onosato up to O1e & Shirokuma getting either J1 or a full makuuchi promotion should advance Nishonoseki's rank