🧵 /wip/ - Works in Progress
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Jun 2023 21:46:20 UTC No. 947917
/wip/ - Works in Progress -True Edition
Post your work-in-progress projects, recently finished projects, or things you'd like critiqued here.
Previous thread: >>947775
List of free resources: https://pastebin.com/cZLVnNtB (embed)
/3/ Discord for those interested: https://discord.gg/gbYCEBPuK2
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Jun 2023 21:46:57 UTC No. 947918
>>947917
Penis
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Jun 2023 23:30:58 UTC No. 947926
>>947917
VAGINA
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Jun 2023 04:49:50 UTC No. 947950
can you retards keep it to one thread
>>936854 has been up for 4 months, either use it or get a janny to baleet it
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Jun 2023 15:01:11 UTC No. 947984
>>947950
Stop posting in it, and it will poof. or post too much on it and it will poof. If the thread doesnt have the right imagine, i will hide it.
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Jun 2023 15:50:59 UTC No. 947994
>>947917
https://youtu.be/IDIxqSQlWOs
The car was created using Blender 3D
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:48:07 UTC No. 948005
>>947917
previous thread link is pointing to some guys question lol
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Jun 2023 19:13:16 UTC No. 948006
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Jun 2023 22:00:08 UTC No. 948018
>>947949
Tails' face lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Jun 2023 21:01:43 UTC No. 948165
>>947950
>this retard really thinks anyone can use that "wip" thread
Get out of here, tourist. We got traditions n shit. Not many, and not good, but we got em damn it.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Jun 2023 04:06:21 UTC No. 948194
/3/ is die... What happened?
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Jun 2023 06:21:03 UTC No. 948208
>>948194
Some /pol/ posters made a discord and now people post in those instead of here because the sweet dopamine of someone commenting on your work comes faster.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:33:19 UTC No. 948222
>>948208
/3/ has always been slow, cool your boogeyman autism
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Jun 2023 17:22:16 UTC No. 948264
>>948222
It got slower. It's not a boogeyman. I went into the first discord people made on the first day it was posted and someone was talking about how Mein Kampf helped him get in shape and get his life together. That was only one of the egregious things I saw. You make the board worse by contributing to the problem or by pretending it isn't a problem. Please leave.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Jun 2023 19:42:13 UTC No. 948269
>>948264
>walk into library
>one guy having a schizo episode
>"WHAT THE FUCK GUYS THE LIBRARY IS FULL OF SCHIZOPHRENICS WHAT THE HELL, I BET THIS IS WHY THE LIBRARY ISNT POPULAR ANYMORE"
i can come up with a million more plausible sounding reasons why the board is "slower" other than "muh /pol/
have you considered maybe its because the rise of AI image generation, or maybe its because of retards like you moaning about unrelated shit and not posting WIPs, or maybe its because someone split the thread for no reason? i could go on
theres plenty of other threads on /3/ that have a relatively healthy rate of posts -- a handful of people posting on discord isnt going to kill a board. the posting there is about as fast as /3/
shut up and post WIPs
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Jun 2023 01:44:04 UTC No. 948291
>>948269
retarded on basically every count
Anonymous at Fri, 16 Jun 2023 08:02:59 UTC No. 948522
>>948264
>discord
lol
lmao even
Anonymous at Fri, 16 Jun 2023 13:25:00 UTC No. 948544
>>948291
Go back to discord
Anonymous at Sun, 18 Jun 2023 02:40:45 UTC No. 948693
>>948682
The wings being made out of her skin it's disgusting
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 09:20:50 UTC No. 948802
Ok maybe one post every few days is a bit *too* slow and raises some eyebrows. I preached that /3/ has always been slow before but now I'm not sure it's natural, it's not this slow on a normal day.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:15:17 UTC No. 948834
>>948802
some retard decided to make a wip thread with a different op pic
so now we have 2 for the next couple months splitting the non existent traffic
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:52:04 UTC No. 948906
>>948682
not bad but I'd focus on the eyes, a lot more. look at some better reference of how the eyeballs fit into the head and how the eyelids interact with them
right now it looks like you just cut holes into the head and inflated the edges, even stylized or anime faces can look fucked by doing this
sketchfab can pretty good for reference as you can inspect models from any angle and with wireframes on too, here's a couple I found searching shit like "anime face" or "stylized eyes"
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 15:12:39 UTC No. 948907
trying to make my own basemesh that I can work off in future projects
I never seem to be satisfied with the topology as each time I start a new one it gets better, but I don't want to start from scratch every time I make a new character
people tell me to just grab a random free basemesh from somewhere but how the fuck am I supposed to learn that way? I might as well just sell Frankensteined collages of other people's work on booth or gumroad or some shit
>>948287
damn are those procedural? photogrammetry? hand-painted?
lemmy see the topology man
>>948835
it's giving me half-life 2 synth vibes, you planning on animating it?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:02:30 UTC No. 948909
It took me 3 days and tons of bitching, but I finally got the Painter Prman Preset Browser integration to work for 25.1. No more manually having to wire and convert each and every tex map for every change. The "unfortunate" part is my PrMan render looks much much stronger than my Painter iRay preview
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 22:56:18 UTC No. 948936
>>948935
You beat me to it. Note: The titan didn't have propeller covers on top.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 22:59:44 UTC No. 948937
>>948936
Damn, I liked that curved shape.
In Max I'd use the explosion modifier with negative strenght. In Maya, dunno yet.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:07:47 UTC No. 948939
>>948937
In maya I'd assign a displace attribute with a negative cellular map.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:17:22 UTC No. 948940
>>948937
Nope sorry just confirmed it had the top shroud added for this trip.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 11:54:45 UTC No. 948965
messing around with bloom;
do ignore the clipping sword, I'm retarded
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:59:47 UTC No. 948998
Re-watched Tron Uprising and got the itch to recreate some shots and maybe do a basic animation.
Not used to stylized designs though and already struggling with the artstyle & shaders. Haven't even started trying to sculpt some of the weirdly proportion characters
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:09:06 UTC No. 949056
>>948952
What will these be used for?
>>949055
Looks even more like a Crack whore now
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:58:44 UTC No. 949059
>>949056
>What will these be used for?
Hypnosis fetish stuff
>>949055
I almost like this but you've gotta figure out something for the eyes, that shading on the bridge of the nose only accentuates that there's a space between them and the nose that shouldn't be there. I also think some tear ducts might help.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:07:26 UTC No. 949060
>>947948
>>948952
can I see the cat topology? everyone seems to have different methods for hair tufts and I can never settle on which I prefer.
>>948998
nice! you made a cityscape with those yet?
>>949055
eyes look a lot better now, nice one. Also why does it look like you're doing a high-poly sculpt in Maya?
I've only ever used Maya's sculpt tools to reshape or make blendshapes
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:37:58 UTC No. 949065
>>949060
>Also why does it look like you're doing a high-poly sculpt in Maya?
That's a zRemeshed model with base color, roughness, normal applied.
Should I have been more heavy-handed on the retopology?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:45:53 UTC No. 949068
>>949060
The tuft bits on her are a bit shit because I'm slapping enough hair on everything that I don't even have to render them, just use them as emitters. If I ever try to make a VRC version I'll probably weld them on. They're all sculpted and manually retopo'd, except the bottom cheek one where I realized I could just put a decimate modifier on it and save the trouble.
The rest of her topology isn't really something to be proud of, but it deforms well enough that I don't have to scrap the mesh at least.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:55:19 UTC No. 949070
>>949069
why did you make her so lewd?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 17:56:07 UTC No. 949080
>>949065
oh I was expecting a 3M+poly triangulated mess so you actually exceeded my expectations
I still would hate to rig or animate it or use it in a game though
you could probably get away with rigging it for some poses and renders etc.
but then again I'm unreasonably autistic when it comes to topology for some reason, I always manually retopo my sculpts, zremesh or quadremesh just don't do it for me
>>949068
I wish I had that mentality, I end up scrapping so much shit just because of minor issues.
looks good though, would you try and keep the fur look in VRC though? I never see passable fur in VR unless it's on some very poor avatar with 100k hair cards or some expensive as fuck shader.
It seems pretty difficult to get stuff like that to blend into the mesh without using flat shading or weird normal transferring tricks (pic related) I've tried it myself but it never seems to look right
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 18:13:47 UTC No. 949084
>>949080
No, I don't think it would be worth trying to keep a finer fur texture in an engine unless you were doing some wizard shit with like Ornatrix. With default blender tools it's going to look weird or be heavy, and plus, you'll just look out of place next to all the other avatars with flatter materials. Something like this would be cool - https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/gra
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 19:39:06 UTC No. 949094
>>949069
why did you not give her stirrups? could've been even lewder
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 03:40:45 UTC No. 949121
>>949055
She got dat Persona 5, 1000-yard fish-eye stare.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 05:20:28 UTC No. 949124
I'm probably gonna go nuts when I'm able to afford a pc and a gpu with more than 2gb of vram, it is quite jarring to see my poor pc struggle.
>>949055
gotta love pixie I always keep her until the end game
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 06:42:26 UTC No. 949133
>>948942
ive seen an imploding sub, was that yours?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:13:46 UTC No. 949140
>>949139
it doesn't hit the same if sam's not the perpetrator....
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 03:54:46 UTC No. 949229
>>949228
>Almost done remeshing
dios mio...
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 04:23:59 UTC No. 949230
>>949229
That's with the subsurf on, I didn't put all of those points down. Doesn't seem that crazy to me, though I did try to surround more muscle groups with edge loops this time.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 07:12:31 UTC No. 949235
>>949234
I would like a iced cream
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:03:55 UTC No. 949245
>>949234
turkish ice cream man movements
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 18:35:55 UTC No. 949272
>>949271
lol
lmao even
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:09:23 UTC No. 949282
>>949271
Everything looks somewhat acceptable except the hip area is ABSOLUTELY fucked
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:51:32 UTC No. 949284
>>947917
I'm sorry if it's wrong thread to ask, but is it possible to save a selection of edges and load it for similar object, or same object from previous save in 3ds Max? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, I can save the named selection set, but it appears only for the object I was working on and only on it's exact modifier, if I'll change anything it won't be there.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:08:14 UTC No. 949285
>>949284
with raycasts
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:03:02 UTC No. 949287
>>949234
>mint ice cream
So this is the kind of degenerate person who does 3D as a hobby...
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:11:32 UTC No. 949289
>>949287
Actually it was supposed to be blue but I screwed up the bit shifting.
>>949245
Two scoops for you!
>>949235
I'm still a little fuzzy on how to implement rotation properly. I can get it to rotate in x, or y, or z, but only as if they were a 2D plane relative to another variable. I've had to root the odd one out. The odd movement was supposed to just be a full spin in x and z but y got mixed in.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jun 2023 04:45:01 UTC No. 949313
>>949271
That looks like you're getting somewhere, but you might need to look away from it for a few days and come back to it so you can see what's wrong with it. There's a lot of issues going on there.
>>949272
He's trying to learn and you're laughing at him. Despicable.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jun 2023 10:26:46 UTC No. 949330
>>949313
thanks, it's WIP and I know the hands, hips and stomach are fucked. Only had like 3 days to work on this
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jun 2023 18:48:10 UTC No. 949359
Should I bother with fibermesh for fur and hair if I'm planning to retopo and export to blender for posing/animation? I'm kinda assuming it would be smarter to just do all of that in blender.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:28:23 UTC No. 949391
>>949376
What's Beast Boy up to this time...
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:16:58 UTC No. 949419
>>949370
Looks pretty good, I hope to create a character at least this good one day. So far I haven't tried modeling anything organic at all. Did you sculpt at all for this?
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Jun 2023 20:54:44 UTC No. 949432
>>949419
Thanks anon, no sculpting involved
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:01:21 UTC No. 949450
>>949133
No, mine was just for fun.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:49:11 UTC No. 949458
>>949455
looking cool so far
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:37:17 UTC No. 949475
>>947917
how can i give it more depth? volumetric scattering? some clouds in the middle of the megastructure? adding more variations to the buildings but how do give a better sense of scale?
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:52:57 UTC No. 949492
>>949455
>>949476
The sides should probably be dominated more by the lats than the serratus muscles, but good work so far.
>>949475
DoF and some variation would help. Less flat lighting probably would too.
the chair nerd at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:56:40 UTC No. 949525
>>949523
Don't like the camera blur I 'd seed up the shutter at least twice. Also I wouldnt loose the sun glare. You can have both a depth haze and a nice sunlit background. Another element yo add a sense of scale is identical track with similar trains on the background so the eye can see the scale of the scene. Ir tou can have an ovegrown bit in the background it can be a good way to add scale using tiny trees. Looks promising.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 19:46:29 UTC No. 949532
>>949525
>Don't like the camera blur I 'd seed up the shutter at least twice
its gonna be an animation hence the blur
>>949525
>Also I wouldnt loose the sun glare. You can have both a depth haze and a nice sunlit background.
which sun glare?
>>949525
>Another element yo add a sense of scale is identical track with similar trains on the background so the eye can see the scale of the scene. Ir tou can have an ovegrown bit in the background it can be a good way to add scale using tiny trees. Looks promising.
the choo choo is going all the way so by the end of the shot the scale will be shown hopefully, i thought about trees but i just want to go fully concrete look like blame!
the chair nerd at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:42:55 UTC No. 949541
>>949532
>which sun glare?
To compensate for the haze rendering your contrast down I would turn up the direct sun value so it adds more contrast to the lighting. Even with a haze this would definitely produce some glare in some some of the buildings and cool reflections on some of the windows n shit. See picrel.
>its gonna be an animation hence the blur
Ah ok
> i thought about trees but i just want to go fully concrete look like blame!
aH OK.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 22:36:45 UTC No. 949544
>>949541
that bridge can't support its own weight, not to mention a train on top.
the chair nerd at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 22:47:08 UTC No. 949547
>>949544
Water is wet also it's not my WIP.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 05:12:22 UTC No. 949572
>>949523
>>949532
>>949571
This reminds me of the minecart systems I would build in the Nether in Minecraft
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 06:13:50 UTC No. 949574
>>949573
Naw I didn't mean it like that. I don't think I have any surviving examples of any high-effort Nether railways I've built, but the cavernous 3d noise environment with the long railways and smoggy atmosphere brought back some memories.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:06:55 UTC No. 949580
Can someone give me an idea for a simple scene to render?
I wanna throw this character into a proper full setting, maybe do a short animation, work on my render and composition skills mainly.
Criticisms on the character welcome as well.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:35:34 UTC No. 949584
>>949580
Nice little french coffee shop exterior. Some pastels might work well with the light colors on the character.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:08:00 UTC No. 949587
>>949586
also, the skirt needs work. it looks too structured. like it's made out of paper or card.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:30:06 UTC No. 949590
>>949580
she looks like she's curiously looking up into something, so I instantly thought of an aquarium
I reckon it could be a decent render challenge - a bunch of caustics all over the place, maybe throw in some neon tetras and bubbles too
like other anon said - the skirt could look a little less stiff, but overall she looks pretty good!
did you make that from scratch? I wouldn't mind seeing the wireframe
the chair nerd at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 15:14:27 UTC No. 949601
>>949571
Personally I like it much more now. Good work anon irs getting there.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 04:51:16 UTC No. 949649
>>949590
Hehe, the seal is cute.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 13:32:46 UTC No. 949692
>>949649
But what if it's a Manatee??
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:00:13 UTC No. 949776
>>949692
>>949590
There was a solid span of like 6-7 years where I just forgot that Manatees were real.
They're just so forgettable. Like an animal made up by a child or something.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 06:44:26 UTC No. 949961
>>949956
Looks good anon
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:12:02 UTC No. 949986
>>949957
Hypnosis device?
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 16:53:14 UTC No. 949993
>>949957
stared at this for slightly too long and now I'm a sissy
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 17:59:10 UTC No. 950001
>>949957
Looking forward to cumming to the final product.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 18:48:39 UTC No. 950013
>>949986
Yes
>>950001
Based, I'll probably post the finished prop to sketchfab and such when my animation's done so other degenerates can use it. Need to tweak a few things with the spiral and give it a nicer texture still.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 19:02:07 UTC No. 950018
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 19:26:53 UTC No. 950026
>>950016
It's a procedural material, I just need to play with the math to make the center of the spiral "tighter" than the outside with some exponential falloff thing. Not in a big hurry, can do that any time before the final render.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 20:33:54 UTC No. 950038
>>950017
Impressive, very nice.
I'm always a sucker for procedural buildings. Cities are a right pain in the ass to do by hand.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 21:26:11 UTC No. 950048
>>950017
Cool stuff anon. I recently grabbed Houdini, mostly for FX stuff but I am also interested in its value for procedural modeling. Any tutorials you'd recommend?
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 22:11:34 UTC No. 950064
>>950038
Thanks man. If you don't need interior, Houdini has released a building generator in its tools. It's very easy to use if you already know Houdini
>>950048
Thanks. Ngl, the best ones are on their website. If you're already familiar with the software, it's the best.
https://www.sidefx.com/tutorials/
The good thing about them is that they have a varierty of tutorials that covers all lot of different stuff you can do with it. So you can come up later with your own stuff by mixing all of that. Check the project Titan videos for example.
Also watch some of their talks and webinars. They have industry (and indie) guys explaining how they use proceduralism in their workflow (or other stuff since you're also into VFX).
I have like a ton of downloaded courses and tuts in my hard drive that I don't even watch because I rely on their website. I'm a beginer too.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jul 2023 03:41:09 UTC No. 950101
>>950017
Impressive. How do you make something like this?
Python scripting?
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jul 2023 13:57:16 UTC No. 950134
>>950101
Thanks m8. No it's more of a mix of the node system in Houdini (visual scripting) and VEX code (the "programin language" of Houdini)).
Altough I think it's definitely possible to do it in Python as well.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jul 2023 22:37:22 UTC No. 950165
>>950096
>>950097
how did your roblox grift end up working out
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jul 2023 13:11:59 UTC No. 950234
>>950134
all you did was bunch of extremely basic logic. This wouldn't even be good for 20 years ago.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jul 2023 13:42:37 UTC No. 950238
>>950234
take your insecurities elsewhere and leave the lad alone, weirdo.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jul 2023 16:14:13 UTC No. 950253
>>950234
>>950238
I always wonder what pushes people to act like that
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jul 2023 23:38:35 UTC No. 950314
>>950303
Drag the toes in together, the middle/base parts of them will probably have to clip some but it's worth it to make the tips shape together properly.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jul 2023 17:04:03 UTC No. 950482
>>950481
Very nice work
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jul 2023 17:40:51 UTC No. 950483
>>950481
Why do I see so many people modeling guns lately? That seems like something where there's probably already a large supply of usable stock models. Are you doing something in particular with them that needs new ones?
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jul 2023 18:33:24 UTC No. 950485
>>950483
Maybe, but I'm mostly making these to help myself get used to Blender and Substance Painter. I don't really "do" anything with the stuff I make.
Modeling stuff is fun and guns offer an interesting challenge. Decent variety of shapes, different parts that need to fit together just right, plenty of available reference images and all that.
They're also just right for me in terms of project size. Anything bigger and I risk losing interest. My last project was quite a bit bigger and just about killed me, so back to guns it is.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jul 2023 03:48:49 UTC No. 950517
This isn't relevant to anything going on, but ages and ages ago I asked if anyone knew what the key was to bring the menu back up after you added an object and then clicked off it before choosing everything you wanted and accidentally closed the menu.
For example you add a cylinder, give it 22 verts when you meant to give it 12, then click somewhere and closed the menu and now you can't change the number of verts without deleting some edges or deleting the cylinder and adding it back in.
At the time I got told it couldn't be done, but I knew it could because I had seen it on a video it was just impossible for me to find the video again. Turns out I've just found it again by complete accident and the key is f9. It works for any closed menu not just after adding objects, but it'll only open the last menu closed. So if you added the cylinder, then closed the menu, and then resized the cylinder, it would only bring up the resize menu.
I'm sure now a lot of people will know exactly what I was talking about, but I'm going to say that a lot of people won't know about it either and it's a really handy little thing to know.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jul 2023 08:12:14 UTC No. 950537
>>950517
I'm almost certain someone told you to press f9, and either you or someone else went on a schizo tirade about how that wasn't what you were talking about and Max can do it at all times and that Blender is a piece of shit because it can't. All the while people are telling you what button to press.
If it wasn't you, it definitely was someone. Like a year or so ago.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:08:45 UTC No. 950554
>>950537
Nah definitely wasn't me. I don't know anything about Max neither so it must have been someone else.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:47:42 UTC No. 950563
>>950537
It is pretty retarded that you can't access that menu after you've moved the object or done anything else to it, though.
the chair nerd at Thu, 6 Jul 2023 15:40:03 UTC No. 950568
>>950541
Technically its ok although contrast does not let you see the subjects (tanks). The framing could be better it would appear that the protagonist of the image is the ditch.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jul 2023 15:42:14 UTC No. 950569
>>950541
Looks like a realistic diorama because of the scaling, if that's what you're going for.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jul 2023 16:37:23 UTC No. 950581
>>950569
Fuck, right the scaling is off. Somehow didn't notice it myself. Thanks!
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jul 2023 21:22:04 UTC No. 950623
>>950563
I agree, but apart from it disappearing when you do an action like move or scale (or any of the options that shows up in f9 menu), I kind of understand why you can't. It'd be weird to do all sorts of shit to a model that used to be a cylinder and then change its verts from 32 to 6. That would cause all sorts of shit.
It's not quite the same, but geo nodes kind of does that now.
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Jul 2023 00:47:34 UTC No. 950655
>>950650
Limbs are too skinny. Mainly forearms, hands, calf, and lower thigh. And the arms might be a tad bit too long
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Jul 2023 21:00:46 UTC No. 950742
>>950233
More guns, this time the fabled 1911, possibly my favourite handgun. It's funny that in many videogames it's a starter gun when in reality it hits like a truck, only downside being the small magazine capacity so you gotta make those shots count, not that your foe will survive more than 1 if unarmored.
This one is also low-poly at 1800 faces
>inb4 "that isn't low poly at all!"
Understandable reaction, but considering a gun is right up in the player's face it's arguably the only kind of item worth spending a good couple thousand faces on. Older games like Modern Warfare 2 (2009) optimized their games by making 2 versions of the same gun: 1 for the 1st person player model, and 1 for the guns you see NPCs carrying around. I was mindblown when I found that out
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Jul 2023 21:27:59 UTC No. 950743
Dippy
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 12:42:48 UTC No. 950806
>>950650
with things like this it's hard to critique, human proportions are all over the place in real life, the only thing on your sculpt that feels off is the neck - it looks a little too craned forward...
I'm on my own anatomy journey I have yet to settle on an understanding of what an average human looks like. I always end up staring at my model thinking something looks off
also post your topology when you can, I'm getting pretty alright at retopo so I may be able to give some actually useful input
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 15:44:15 UTC No. 950819
>>950650
>>950806
IMO the major errors are
>why is the space below the stomach fat so smooth
>the insertions for several points are either missing definition or are wrong (biceps/quads, butt, etc.)
>connection of hand mesh and arm mesh does not look like a wrist
>hips should have more bony definition on the forward side and come out more
Won't go into the face since I think that's more subjective in terms of what works and what doesn't for 3D models but I do think you should try doing a face study where you go for realism sometime.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 19:45:36 UTC No. 950834
>>950481
very nice, i like it
>>950483
not everything needs to be for a product anon, this kind of thinking is slopmaxxing
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 19:46:44 UTC No. 950835
>>950650
holy shit major nerd neck
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jul 2023 11:15:23 UTC No. 950889
>>949532
Very cool. I'm curious as to how you approached the modeling of the city - did you make everything by hand or create modular parts to duplicate and scatter?
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jul 2023 15:43:42 UTC No. 950909
>>950834
>not everything needs to be for a product
Guns themselves are already soulless products so I just don't really see what anyone would get out of practicing making them when it's not even a skill with a lot of demand. I'm just wondering why so many more people are doing them than other products like, I don't know, a complex office chair design, or a car engine, or anything else along those lines.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jul 2023 17:06:17 UTC No. 950914
Finally took one of my models into Unreal, do you guys think this looks ugly?
My mind is warped and I really don't know if this is up to standards in terms of quality.
I kinda would like to apply for a job soon, do you think a couple of projects with this quality will do? plus some sculpts.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jul 2023 17:11:08 UTC No. 950917
>>950915
This still has some weirdness going on with the ao but I'm working on fixing that
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jul 2023 20:36:58 UTC No. 950936
>>950909
Do you live in some sort of parallel universe where the most popular games are Grand Theft Armrest and Call of Carburetor?
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jul 2023 22:19:58 UTC No. 950942
>>950909
people tend to practice and produce stuff they like or find fun, same reason so many artists are motivated to make cute girls and coomer shit.
not me though I get off on sleek office chair designs and intricate architectural details
>>950927
that's some good shit right there, 10/10 would hang on wall
did you use a specific reference? cos I'd be even more impressed if you just came up with that out of thin air.
I've no idea what jobs are like at the moment, but I reckon that'd be a good portfolio piece regardless
you got a wireframe pic handy?
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jul 2023 22:22:38 UTC No. 950944
>>950927
I think it looks fine, but the procedural scratches on the eyes are kinda bothering me
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 00:26:31 UTC No. 950952
>>950909
ah now i understand, you must have autism
that would explain the inability to understand others points of view
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 05:12:07 UTC No. 950977
>>950976
Mentors I've talked to have always said to only publish your own work, stuff like megascans is fine if it's minor stuff like set dressing visible through the window of an interior environment.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 07:30:12 UTC No. 950984
>>950889
>did you make everything by hand or create modular parts to duplicate and scatter?
created a variety of different buildings for each "structure" then used the blender particle system to scatter them in a vertical way, i feel like it can look better if i figured out how to use geonodes.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 07:31:22 UTC No. 950985
>>950914
>>950915
>>950927
real cool, how do you even uv unwrap something like a mask to even texture it?
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 09:54:43 UTC No. 950989
>>950655
>>950819
>>950835
Thank you guys, I'll work on it.
>>950806
I've never actually retopologized a sculpt before. I always sculpt, get very autistic with the details, burn out and move to a different project.
This one I want to take all the way and learn all the aspects of making a full usable rigged model no matter how bad but aesthetics matter to me a lot.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 14:13:30 UTC No. 950999
>>950989
if you're as autistic about perfection as I am - then I'd advise you to just learn manual retopo and just stick with that.
I've given basically every automatic retopo tool a go and the inconsistency of the results are just never good enough for me, it's just not there yet, even with perfect settings and guide curves and all that shit I still ended up scrapping everything in the end.
Now my approach is manually dragging verts and loops around to exactly where I need them.
Don't get me wrong, sometimes the results are passable, but I'd only ever use them for non-deforming organic shit, like a rock or tree stump, never a character though.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 17:26:03 UTC No. 951015
>>951008
That looks fuckin sick mate! I'm curious to see how it looks with the lights moved around like you said.
I've always wanted to make a model that uses painted normals ever since I watched that guilty gear artstyle GDC talk, but I've no idea how to even begin to approach it. Are you painting the normal map texture, or painting vertex weights that influence the normals? I've heard there's a few ways of doing it but they all sound equally insane...
>>951013
>extrude arms
>extrude legs
>try to make a head
>realize box-modelling characters is a nightmare unless you know what you're doing
If you're an absolute beginner I'd give sculpting a go, it's a lot more fun way of learning character modelling/anatomy imo, you still have to retopologize after though.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 17:32:33 UTC No. 951016
>>951015
yeah this seems way too difficult. i tried to model the legs separately and link them but i have no clue how to get the edge flow going properly. i'll try to make something in zbrush then.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 18:56:54 UTC No. 951027
>>951015
since i'm trying to both keep the poligon count low and be able to paint small details into the textures i'm settling for just painting the normals.
For now the texturing is very sloppy and quick mostly to see if it would even work at all, also if i stick to this i probably shouldn't mirror the uv's when i do a "clean" version
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 19:23:38 UTC No. 951030
>>951013
Give it boobs. Really big and saggy boobs that flop around and squirt milk everywhere.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jul 2023 19:57:30 UTC No. 951031
>>950977
guess its gonna be just practice then
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jul 2023 06:33:02 UTC No. 951069
>>950927
Looks awesome, but I agree with the other guy, scratches on the eyes don't make much sense to me. It doesn't really look bad at a glance but if you want people to look at it closely in a portfolio that could stand out.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jul 2023 09:07:30 UTC No. 951079
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jul 2023 09:18:59 UTC No. 951080
WIP. Gotta refine the eyelashes and get to work on retopoing the base mesh. Something about the hair is bugging me. This is my second time ever making hair so I'd appreciate some critiques. Thanks.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jul 2023 13:26:21 UTC No. 951100
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Jul 2023 20:50:03 UTC No. 951176
>>951063
way too dark breh, I can't see a thing
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 14:02:05 UTC No. 951272
>>951268
>first presentable project
Nope its bad.. Not being mean. It has the typical noob error of geometry artifacts in the bottom part of the cup.
There can be two causes. Non smoothed shading or bad cylinder capping.
I suppose you are still not familiar with the concept of cylindrical capping or surface smoothing so lets use this opportunity for you to learn a good modelling principle and no deviate like so many faggots.
Post a mesh of the cup from the bottom and we'll go from there.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 14:40:44 UTC No. 951274
Again with fixed artifacts.
>>951272
>It has the typical noob error of geometry artifacts in the bottom part of the cup.
I'm not so certain; this was set shade smooth and with subdiv. While the pole is a bit naughty and that tight band of loop cuts is dumb (wtf plasticity?), the rest of the geo looks fine, right? Not sure how relevant, but I fixed the weird shadows with adaptive subdiv. Given https://www.reddit.com/r/blenderhel
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:13:15 UTC No. 951276
>>951272
>>951274
Some more information. Maybe I'm retarded. Couldn't recreate the redditor's issue. The rest is trying again with a new exported mesh, this time with cleaner geometry from setting a minimum spacing. Are the normals fucked? It can't be that this is because of the pole topology?? Again, setting to adaptive subdiv fixes the issue.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:21:07 UTC No. 951278
>>951274
>I'm not so certain
>this was set shade smooth and with subdiv
>While the pole is a bit naughty and that tight band of loop cuts is dumb (wtf plasticity?), the rest of the geo looks fine, right?
> but I fixed the weird shadows with adaptive subdiv.
>it might be a blender bug.
Ok I give up. You just admitted to have a pole in your geometry and the only way you are solving it is with aggressive subdivision and then think that even if you pressed some check buttons that might just be a bug of the program cuz your reasoning must be flawless.
>Not sure how relevant
Yeah you also can just take a piece of crap and dorodango the shit out of it until you get a smooth surface. Do you even know what poles cause to refraction? Did you even bother to look up the terms cylindrical capping and shader smoothing?
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:25:54 UTC No. 951279
>>951276
>It can't be that this is because of the pole topology?? Again, setting to adaptive subdiv fixes the issue.
>Oh is the bad geometry the cause of the problem? No it cna't be I just used a tool with a name that has the word 'adaptive' so it must solve the problem for me.
YES DUMMIE! The problem is in your triangular pole. And even if that cup is just a practise object the goal of practicing is bettering your work not pressing buttons to hide problems.
For the love of god do the pole again with a correctly done cylindrical cap and then learn in a practical way what it does to your geometry.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 16:21:09 UTC No. 951285
>>951278
>>951279
My understanding was that poles only distort shading in their *proximity* due to the difficulties in calculating local gradients, whereas the shading errors appear on both sides of the foot as well as on the sides of the bowl - quite distant from the poles.
>dorodango the shit out of it until you get a smooth surface
>tool with a name that has the word 'adaptive' so it must solve the problem for me.
My understanding is that topology poles *cannot* be fixed by subdivision, which is why they're annoying. I pointed out that adaptive subdivision fixes it because this is unexpected according to that understanding.
>And even if that cup is just a practise object the goal of practicing is bettering your work not pressing buttons to hide problems.
The goal was to learn plasticity and cycles. Plasticity is CAD so getting a mesh out of it necessarily involves pressing buttons. I'm learning plasticity because polymodelling is a swamp filled with exactly this kind of autism.
>Do you even know what poles cause to refraction? Did you even bother to look up the terms cylindrical capping and shader smoothing?
I honestly thought I knew what those were, but maybe youtube tutorials aren't reliable here.
Since I honestly do want to learn, here's two renders. One with the shown grid fill solution to the pole, and another with the poles straight-up deleted. It looks like there's still errors in both the quad solution and the cap-less render, so is it that "poles" in this case isn't referring to the actual vertex, but the edge flow around it? But then how does this differ from pic in >>951278 for the foot? Does it have to do with the weird topology around the base of the bowl?
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 17:55:32 UTC No. 951294
>>951285
>>951289
>Since I honestly do want to learn, here's two renders.
Ok nice insight I'm calm now. As for the geometry it doesn't matter if you have capped and used quads to finish the bottom of the cup. If that circle is too small it will still behave like a pole. It's not about getting quads all around its about eliminating stress point on the geometry that cause differential mesh densities in a surface In picrel 'study3' yeah youvé capped the cyilinder but it's still too small so the surrounding geomtery still has a triangular shape that will definietly generate a diferential mesh density between the center and the border of the base.
Meshes should be equally dense everywhere specially on objects that need it so like translucent or refractive properties.
>But then how does this differ from pic in >>951278 (You) for the foot?
The capping should maintain the flow of curvature you intend to make so it doesn't end up like a flat center. I always support having as little gase geometry as possible befor smoothing because contrary to logic less geometry will give you more control in some situations.
>>951278 Picrel check the quad mark but most importantly it gives control of the whole mesh base center using a single vertex whereas in your study you've backed yourself into a corner trying to control a center with two polygons in the capping. Either you have complete symetry or you don't so the cup should have 'symetrical' subdivisions. This is why most cylinder meshes ar multiples of 2 and 3. Making a cyilinder with 3,6,12,18,24 sides is much better that your 14 sides.
That is why in >>951278 picrel the mesh transitions so smoothly from 8 sides to 4 sides and from 4 sides to a single point.
>>951289
Ok. Not familiar with blender but doesn't surprise me that they can't do caustics. But I've never talked about caustics. The artifacts I still see in 'study3'I would bet good money that they are not in the caustics but in the refraction.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 21:14:13 UTC No. 951299
>>951080
If I had to say, I find this part a bit weird, maybe try putting the side hair strand on top of the front one or something like that. It might be the angle too, but that cheek is looking a bit weird to me.
Dont take my advice too seriously as I'm also a beginner at this, keep the good work, anon.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 21:49:13 UTC No. 951302
>>951285
It's not your fault. Use a real renderer (one that actually works) instead of Cycles and everything will be fine.
And I don't know if you've noticed but the resident topology experts have no clue what topology is and/or how it works.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 22:20:55 UTC No. 951304
>>951302
I still can't see what's wrong with the glass.
And to be honest if you hadn't told me there was some sort of apparent, glaring, horrible issue with the poles, I never would've known to begin with.
It's a perfectly fine, if entirely boring and mundane, glass composition.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 22:33:56 UTC No. 951305
>>951304
The only issue I can see with your picture is that the shadow of the glass as rendered by Cycles is possibly the ugliest thing I've ever seen.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 22:47:30 UTC No. 951306
>>951305
It's not my picture, I'm not that guy.
the chair nerd at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 22:49:17 UTC No. 951307
>>951296
Omfg a chair. I know a thing or two about chairs so I have a few comments.
1. The wheels can be a diferent diameter than the central axis support but in chair design the best choice is to have the same radius for the axis cover. It lets the chair be safe around corners and it catches less dirt on daily use.
2. The hydraulic cylinder must have a receptacle at least as long as the shaft.
3.Armrest seems a bit too thick to have that sharpness. If you are going for a rigid foam arm rest those are usually more curved in the to to prevent localized wear on the front portion.
Otherwise great chair. I love chairs. If you want to post more chairs feel free to post them I love chairs.
If you want the next level in chairs you could try and model a Chesterfield Arm Chair or an LC2. both use extensive leather and could be the opportunity to be an intro to wrinkles and textile sim.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 23:03:03 UTC No. 951308
I've been sculpting a boss from a game but I might need to shrink the human part since the battle sprits are chibish.
Does anyone have any good recourses for baking normal maps from sculpts?
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jul 2023 23:39:57 UTC No. 951310
>>951308
Follow this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrf
Never bake high poly sculpts using Substance Painter. Marmoset is the way.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 01:02:09 UTC No. 951317
>>951307
How did you find your way into a Netflix show? Do you have connections?
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 11:03:42 UTC No. 951353
>>951307
>2. The hydraulic cylinder must have a receptacle at least as long as the shaft.
do people go into that much detail for modelling for film and animation? or is it for bim? i usually just look at the reference and do by best approximation for the shapes.
fixing the armrest as well
>>951307
>If you want the next level in chairs you could try and model a Chesterfield Arm Chair or an LC2. both use extensive leather and could be the opportunity to be an intro to wrinkles and textile sim.
i have already tried a chesterfield arm but i wan to practice the curve parts of models in the sense the back rest of the chair is very hard to model for me, i make extrusions for the front and when i switch to the side view its hard for me to make the curve any tips on that? is it just moving the verticies and hoping the shape comes out right?
the chair nerd at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 15:39:26 UTC No. 951410
>>951317
I'm rich so I pay my own Netflix.
>>951353
>do people go into that much detail for modelling for film and animation?
Not if the style is more cartoony but take a look at your picrel, the piston it traverses the wheel base and almost reaches the floor. It's a common design feature of office chairs that lets you fit a reclining mechanism.
> switch to the side view its hard for me to make the curve any tips on that?
I'd like to see a wireframe but it seems you have far too much base geometry before the smoothing part. It generally gives you less control because you have to manage more vertices.
> is it just moving the verticies and hoping the shape comes out right?
In practice yes but in theory you should treat vertices almost like beziers and define the curve by its smoothing result. When I model chairs I usually make the whole chair in as little polys as I can to get the overall shape and the I start detailing the mesh where it really needs it.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 17:42:17 UTC No. 951429
>>951410
it around 270k tris with smoothing, i can cut a lot of it down especially in the legs which looks really dense with sub div on
>>951417
not right now, i just want to practice modelling and get that grind on. been thinking about switching to 3dsmax for vray since majority of the jobs in my country uses 3ds and rarely blender pops up.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 20:15:16 UTC No. 951452
trying to figure out how to rig the back, however i feel like no matter how much i work on it the lines on the character will make it obvious that all the shit is just painted on, i might try blending different textures and see if it could work
the chair nerd at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 20:31:25 UTC No. 951454
>>951429
>Mesh
Yep. Your modelling suffers from a disease that affects 99% of hard surface modellers when they start modelling. Don''t worry. I had it and it and it has a cure.
I call it 'vertex pushing' and its a consequence of starting your model with garbage geometry that you don't actually need.
For example in your backrest i see a lot of geometry that you must've started using a subdivided plane or a box and you've spent hours trying to drag rows and rows of vertices in order to achieve the curve you wanted. In poly modelling you should always remember: 'Less geometry will give you more control' and 'Only add geometry where its absolutely necessary'.
I think it was better to make a video so you can see what I mean by that.
In the example of bad modelling you can see that I try to imitate what many modellers do and its trying to drag and push rows and rows of vertices witch is not only a bad practice but a horribly inefficient one.
In the example of good modelling you can see that I try to only make the geometry that I need to control the curved surfaces and that I use symmetry and smoothing modifiers to my advantage. Why would y want to drag 100 vertices when the smoothing modifier does that for me?
I added a better example that tries to eliminate the use of loops during the modelling process. Loops are obviously necessary to control the edges in your geometry but if you add them too soon you'll loose the curvature of those edges if you need to modify the overall shape so you should consider advanced smoothing options like Open subdiv in max or trying to stack loops into separate modifiers.
I kid you not if you model efficiently you could model chair like that the Herman Miller Lino in less than one hour and use it as a prop for a photo realistic render.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:05:48 UTC No. 951461
>>951454
holy shit thanks anon, we need more anons like you, what did you change in the better modelling section? it was too fast and compressed to notice what you did differently. What would you recommend to practice? i was thinking of modelling a shoe next
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:08:45 UTC No. 951462
>>951452
That's a really nice shoulder rig.
And yeah, I think blending textures might work, but it'll definitely make things more complicated. Especially if you're supporting the whole movement, you've got 360 degrees of rotation for the arms going around, and then whatever the range of motion is for the arms going forward.
I guess you could maybe do a texture for like 6 degrees of motion for the 360 and blend those, and then like 2-4 for the forward motion. In T-pose the 360 and forward would share a texture, so you would only have to do that once.
If done right though it could look neat.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:20:16 UTC No. 951464
>>951461
> what did you change in the better modelling section?
Fuck I just notices I recorded the window but not the full program. What I changed was that I erased the edge loops and changed the turbo smooth for an open subdiv modfier and played with the weight of the edges. This lets you get the shape correctly before commiting to a loop that will complicate the modelling process.
>What would you recommend to practice?
A show seems pretty good practice.It has hard parts like the sole. Soft parts and the laces will be a good insight into parametric modelling.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:20:39 UTC No. 951465
>>951461
>what did you change in the better modelling section?
He used a base mesh that had the bare minimum of polygons required to get the desired shape. Allows you to just slap on subdivisions and then control the shape of the final mesh by manipulating that base mesh.
Like he said, fewer polygons = more control. Let the subdivisions do the heavy lifting.
the chair nerd at Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:22:54 UTC No. 951466
>>951465
Yes this.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 03:52:01 UTC No. 951497
>>951464
>played with the weight of the edges.
i assume this is same as edge creasing in blender , thanks once again anon
>>951465
i will give it a try and be conscious of the extrusion i make
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 12:07:05 UTC No. 951542
>>951540
Yeah that’s enough, if I were you I’d just sculpt the shoe in zbrush and retopo and extract normals/disp (or vector disp if you use renderman) and donezo
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 12:09:35 UTC No. 951543
>>951542
i want to practice box/poly modelling right now, picking up sculpting and a new program will be pretty dumb without my modelling fundies right?
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:23:59 UTC No. 951553
>>951540
Because I'm and old fag that never picked up sculpting I'd do it all on poly and I'ts not hard. Give me the blueprint and I could show you how. I agree with anon that the best way is to sculpthat but you might learn a thing or two on detailed poly modelling.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:33:20 UTC No. 951554
>>951553
https://www.nike.com/t/killshot-2-l
this is what i am using
i am going crazy anon, its hard to find good references that match up, the sole view is not aligning with the top view so its hard to guide vertices.
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:43:59 UTC No. 951556
>>951554
Ok I'll give it a go this weekend. Never modelled a shoe but with good thechniques you can model anything.
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:48:57 UTC No. 951558
>>951554
>i am going crazy anon, its hard to find good references that match up, the sole view
I used to work in a big corporate interior design firm as the lead 3d modeller. I had to model pieces of furniture with nothing more than a small picture taken from a cellphone. That will be a good part of your work so better get used to lacking refs. Cheers.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:53:59 UTC No. 951564
>>949370
you need help with texturing?
I'm practicing anime style texture
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:55:56 UTC No. 951566
>>950254
need folds and wrinkles
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:20:20 UTC No. 951567
>>951543
Hey yeah sorry, this is a good thing to do for practice, when I was @ ESMA we did this in my first year and that really forced me to step my hard surface skills up (my stupid ass decided to model a pair of timberlands, needless to say I suffered lol).
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:23:57 UTC No. 951568
>>951554
References shouldn’t be your sole guide, 1:1 replica models are usually done by LIDAR because it’s extremely autistic to do it by hand since we’re not engineers looking to print or model structural stress in CAD or some shit. Try to get it to look as good as possible, what I usually do is use maya’s shit sculpting tools on a very Low poly mesh that I subdivided and gently nudging things where I want them once a base mesh is completed, trust me anon, most people can’t see the difference and the texturing done after usually sells the deal. Also listen to the chair guy he knows his shit too
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:28:39 UTC No. 951570
>>951558
>>951567
>>951568
thanks anons, so far its 20k tris and i thought after i finish modelling i will use a lattice and get that curved overall shape because bending the shape during modelling is apparently too hard for my brain to comprehend
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:48:32 UTC No. 951573
>>951571
You keep topology down which is good, that Nike logo part is too much though, I reckon you could reduce twofold before you start curving, will make it more manageable imo
Also I’m not sure a lattice might work here, even if you use a very dense one you might still have issues with the thickness of your mesh and different parts of it spaghettifying or something, it might work though but prepare yourself for trouble.
Keep us posted I wanna see the end result as I don’t have access to my computer sadly :(
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:54:59 UTC No. 951575
>>951568
>most people can’t see the difference and the texturing done after usually sells the deal.
Best advice. Don't model anything you are not supposed to. In 99% of the cases that sole is better off as a normal texture or a sculpted mesh. I'm just going on 100% poly modelling because you want to polish skills.
>extremely autistic to do it by hand
It is.
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:15:46 UTC No. 951577
>>951540
I would still add a perimetral loop just because you'll need to control the sole profile shen smoothing.
Take a look a this one: https://www.blendernation.com/2020/
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 17:41:51 UTC No. 951600
>>951599
>forced perspective is fuckin hard
What do you want to achieve?
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 17:46:36 UTC No. 951601
>>951600
I'm trying to recreate pic related with some adjustments, including a greater distance between the house and the riverbed, aiming for a pre-rendered CG aesthetic (thus the shit texturing and flat lighting)
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 18:12:12 UTC No. 951603
>>951601
Yep the reference ok. I'd bet good money that it was painted using a camera lucida wich tipically has a moderate zoom effect.
I've calculated the fov and it should be around 33 degrees.
Since you are working in blender try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrE
Cheers.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 18:13:56 UTC No. 951604
>>951603
Damn brother, thanks a ton. Really appreciate it. I'll watch the vid, but do you have any general tips on perspective matching?
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 18:15:09 UTC No. 951605
>>951603
If you need a flat reference for that here's the real location.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/4
the chair nerd at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 18:17:18 UTC No. 951606
>>951604
>do you have any general tips on perspective matching
Yes. Don't try to match the details perfectly (the usually never fit) Try to always match the bigger picture specially something prone to distortion like a painting.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jul 2023 22:28:20 UTC No. 951640
>>951564
Not really, im trying to get everything done by myself
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jul 2023 15:36:28 UTC No. 951699
>>951695
Baby hands
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jul 2023 16:04:12 UTC No. 951701
>>951622
nice result. what tuto?
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jul 2023 17:28:06 UTC No. 951709
Made with nomad sculpt on iPad. I’m afraid that the only way I can get better is by learning how to draw, but the sole reason i picked up 3dcg was because I wasn’t improving with drawing, and sculpting seemed more intuitive to me.
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jul 2023 20:47:02 UTC No. 951735
>>951701
this one
https://flippednormals.com/product/
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jul 2023 23:11:04 UTC No. 951754
>>951696
No fucking clue.
My guess is like you said. Take a bunch of cubes at different sizes/ratios and start sculpting. Bake normals and assemble by hand or lay them out procedurally.
I guess you could also take a trimsheet approach. Bake a bunch of normals edges and bevels of different bricks to a texture, unwrap all of your bricks the same way, and then pick and choose areas to use from the trimsheet (pic related, hopefully it makes sense).
Like say you had a texture broken up into 9 brick edges, then you have a bunch of cubes at different sizes and ratios like before (or even handle that procedurally), you unwrap each face to one of the 9 squares in the UV, and since the seams between each of the 9 squares would match up to make a bevel, they'd all match up no matter which of the squares you pick. Then just use another texture for the diffuse and whatever else, I think stretching wouldn't be too much of a problem for bevels and normals, but if you're stretching and squashing the bricks too much the diffuse texture might look a bit off. So triplanar/object coordinates would be best for the regular texture, but UV for the bevels.
Then as before, assemble the wall by hand, or use some procedural method.
I'm not sure if that's something that people do or would do, or if there's a better way, but that's probably how I'd tackle it.
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jul 2023 23:27:43 UTC No. 951757
>>950911
context?
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Jul 2023 08:36:40 UTC No. 951798
>>951754
Honestly just triplanar the shit out of it, that’s usually what I do when I can’t be fucked. Works great 99% of the time especially for organic matter. I usually bake out the diffuse and correct the spec and rough maps and try to make a bump map that works ok because again, normals are just overkill if your shit is going to sit in the BG and will be comped out anyway
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:32:16 UTC No. 951830
>>951718
very cool! would love to see the finish sculpt
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Jul 2023 17:41:53 UTC No. 951846
>>951696
There's an addon that comes with Blender that lets you make brick walls. I used it to try and make a shitty castle (pic related), but I gave up on it.
I'm sure you can fuck around with it to make the blocks bigger or whatever and then you can just adjust them the way you like afterwards.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Jul 2023 20:20:36 UTC No. 951863
>>951798
Yeah obviously I would do that, but since he was asking about bevels and scuplted shit, I figured I'd offer up some kind of solution.
From a distance, I'd just throw on a bevel shader some triplanar repeating textures, and then do some extra layers for like lichen and shit to break it up. But if it were up close, I think the trimsheet thing is what I would do.
Actually, I'm thinking of picking up that solution and running with it for something of my own. Especially since really all you have to do is sculpt 1-2 bricks to get the faces/bevels you need for the texture, and then you can mix and match them for any number of bricks. And if you keep the layout consistent, you could do all sorts of different textures and swap them out. Like one texture with really distressed bevels, and another with perfect ones, then you can re-use assets. Which I guess is one of the benefits of trimsheets with consistent layouts.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 08:19:24 UTC No. 951900
>>951863
Never used trim sheets before but honestly I’m more and more interested in video game workflows like these for tedious and annoying shit like these
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 08:21:17 UTC No. 951901
>>951846
What's it like living in a castle?
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 08:30:51 UTC No. 951902
>>950911
But this is perfectly good and sensible advice?
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 16:04:54 UTC No. 951928
>>951924
Good luck with the turret, actually anon are you planing to model a notch to slot the turret and allow it to rotate?
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 16:11:39 UTC No. 951930
>>951901
No wifi, no tv, no phone chargers, boiled food and crenelations. Basically a zoomer's nightmare.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 17:31:10 UTC No. 951937
>>951901
I always wanted to live in a castle. I wanted to buy that one from Satan's Chimney, but it turned out 95% of it was a set and it broke my heart.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 18:07:25 UTC No. 951941
>>951928
>actually anon are you planing to model a notch to slot the turret and allow it to rotate?
Yes, absolutely. Should be pretty easy. I might have to make some changes to the shape of the turret to make sure it clears all the details on hull. Ideally, I would like to have a gun with adjustable elevation, but I'm not sure if I have the skill to implement something like that yet.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 20:41:24 UTC No. 951948
>>951900
The more work you can get done as a single person, the more you can do for a single project.
Video games are all about efficiency since they don't want to pay people and they want to get shit out the door real quick, so paying attention to GDC talks every now and again for novel workflows and stuff is pretty handy. Even for normal 3d work.
I think the one about the wind and vegetation in Horizon Zero Dawn was a pretty neat one that I've always been meaning to give a try, but never had a reason to. Can't say much about the game since I haven't played it (though the way the MC looks in the game always reminds me of the autistic "Enchantment!" dwarf in your camp in Dragon Age Origins), but some of the devs working on it really know their shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 23:08:56 UTC No. 951956
New video worked up in UE5.1
I still need to improve on camera work and take recorder, some of my vehicles came out jittery until I stopped using "reduce keys"
https://youtu.be/HZKwq5OLJpw
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:41:25 UTC No. 952015
>>951941
I’m sure there’s a few tutorials or courses you can rip online. Actually you could probably figure it out by drawing simple schematics. Anyway looking forward to it, if you don’t mind dropping your files in .obj once you’re done I could even texture and light it.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:44:40 UTC No. 952018
>>951948
Dude yes horizon zero dawn blew my tiny mind when I saw it run on a friends ps4, I still don’t understand how these people made it run on (relatively) ancient hardware, do you have links to videos or papers where the devs discuss their workflows?
the chair nerd at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:41:58 UTC No. 952045
>>952041
>Uses flat shader, has flat results.
Apply the concept of foreground, middle ground, far ground and background.
Don't use 2 planes but 3. Blend them into your sky color gradually to simulate haze and focus.
Learn the concept of negative space and rule of planes.
https://mitchalbala.com/book-excerp
the chair nerd at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:45:49 UTC No. 952047
>>951956
Wow trippy I love it.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:54:49 UTC No. 952076
>>952073
press u, and "smart uv project"
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:57:51 UTC No. 952078
>>952073
>>952076
also, apply transforms(rotation and scale,cntrl+a, in object mode), or try to press shift+n to recalculate normals
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:12:03 UTC No. 952080
>>952078
I've tried it but nothing worked
>>952076
Haven't tried that but I've already done a quick retopo and it works great now
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:58:25 UTC No. 952089
>>952064
Make a script to do it. I can't tell you how, since I've got no clue how to script, but this is definitely one of those times to do it.
Though my retarded ass would probably make a keyboard macro of like "F2>end>-col>enter>down" and then just spam the macro a bunch. A script would probably be easier if you know a bit about that 2bh.
>>952018
There's sites that backup different GDC talks, like this ( https://www.gdcvault.com/free ), barring that, there's the Youtube channel ( https://www.youtube.com/@Gdconf ). Some presentations they only have slides on the websites though, so there might be shit on one but not the other.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 21:26:50 UTC No. 952101
>>952094
She thicc!
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:06:43 UTC No. 952114
Using geometry nodes for generating procedural eye lashes.
I'm satisfied how they look from a distance but would like to have it look more real in super closeup.
I guess adding randomness will help and some logic to prevent intersection.
This doesn't have to run during animation but will be baked as a particle system hair so it doesn't have to run fast.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jul 2023 04:34:03 UTC No. 952123
>>952114
>have it look more real in super closeup.
Have you actually looked at close up pictures of eyelashes? I'm not shitting on you, but that's where I'd start if I were focused on micro details like that.
Hair doesn't just clip out of your skin, which imo would be something to pay attention to and solve for more realistic close-ups. Darkening the area underneath where they sprout out might also go a long way.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:01:47 UTC No. 952172
>>952143
The face ruins it all
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jul 2023 22:50:26 UTC No. 952211
>>952073
You should just mark a seam along top and bottom, no?
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jul 2023 10:59:09 UTC No. 952263
>>952064
edit -> batch rename -> set name -> suffix
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jul 2023 20:10:37 UTC No. 952325
Starting to make progress on the turret. Topo for the base shape turned out to be more complex than I thought it would be and I needed to make several attempts. There are shading issues, but I don't need it to shade well since it will be strictly for 3D printing.
>>952015
>If you don’t mind dropping your files in .obj once you’re done I could even texture and light it.
I'll give that some thought. Keep in mind that almost every detail is booleaned onto a base shape, so the topo and unwrapping will be extremely messy.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jul 2023 03:36:47 UTC No. 952387
Made some progress on the commander's cupola. It's not totally accurate, but I'm pleased with the level of detail. I would say I'm about 65% done with the turret. I still want to invest a few more hours into it. Using Booleans for most of the details has been fun. It's nice to not have to worry too much about topo.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jul 2023 06:54:06 UTC No. 952400
>>952325
Oh shit that would be a problem, I use renderman which is VERY touchy when topology isn’t good, especially with reflections
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:46:05 UTC No. 952405
>>952387
should loose that shiny thing.. tanks are not covered in glossy paint for obvious reasons.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:51:30 UTC No. 952453
Is that gun chad around? I need some advice from him on the grip. I suppose anyone could help me really, but I know he knows how to into guns.
I can't quite figure out how to make the front of the grip (which I think is called the front strap) and behind the trigger rounded. It's square atm and when I try to make it more rounded it just gets fucked up.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jul 2023 17:40:30 UTC No. 952460
>>952432
i tried following a tutorial with hard ops and ngons without the addons and i dont get the workflow, there are so many ngons.
>>952453
really would love his advice on where to get started in modelling a gun
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:00:15 UTC No. 952462
>>952460
I'm probably not the best one to give advice considering I'm looking for it myself, but I probably would have blocked it out and then put a subdiv on it to eliminate the ngons. Then just moved the verts to where they needed to be and added any loopcuts that I needed to add.
A bit like I've done here, for some fixture that I don't know the name of where a bolt goes, but more to your specification. I'm sure you know what I'm rambling on about.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:44:35 UTC No. 952467
>>952405
>tanks are not covered in glossy paint for obvious reasons.
I'm aware. I plan to 3D print it with somewhat glossy filament though, so it's a nice way to get an idea of what the final product might look like. Plus I find it helps me understand the shape of the surface better. Keep in mind that I don't plan or doing any sort of serious rendering with it. It's strictly for 3D printing.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:40:11 UTC No. 952568
>>952414
Billboards. Put your tree as an image texture on a single plane, instead of actual geometry (pic related is one of mine, alpha texture is on the normal map instead of the diffuse).
If it's close up to the camera, use actual geometry, but if it's far, use billboards. Might help to bake a normal map for the tree texture as well to give it a bit of light interaction. Using the viewport render from the camera you make the billboard texture from, and using the normals matcap makes normals just fine without baking.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:51:29 UTC No. 952569
>>952325
>>952387
should have just used plasticity. It would have taken a small fraction of the time and looked better
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jul 2023 21:06:12 UTC No. 952571
>>952568
Figures. Thanks I'll try it out!
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jul 2023 02:20:02 UTC No. 952614
>>952569
I doubt it would have taken a fraction of time, as I would need to learn the software package. I'm fairly content with the rate of progress anyway. It's for fun, not money. Once it's 3D printed, I really don't think there's going to be a substantial difference in how it looks.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jul 2023 23:40:16 UTC No. 952742
>>952460
I'm the guy who made >>950481
I'm not really an expert on modeling guns, though. This is only my second attempt at one, and the main reason it looks halfway decent is that I have years of experience modeling other crap to varying states of completion.
That being said, I more or less got started doing Tim Bergholz' revolver tutorial a few months ago.
If i had just wanted to model a gun I wouldn't have used a tutorial at all, but I was also looking for an intro to Blender and Substance Painter to learn the whole game asset worklflow thing (I come from Max and used to do mainly arch viz) and it seemed like an alright choice for that. Looking back, I think I'm pretty happy with it.
After I was done with that I immediately started on my first project, which resulted in pic related. I basically just stuck to the workflow I learned in that tutorial, but gathered my own reference material.
Do not underestimate that part of the process. Having good references is critical. Use Google image search. Watch disassembly videos on Youtube. Take notes and screenshots. I spent two or three days gathering several hundred reference images, organized them in PureRef and used them to create a composite image I could use within Blender.
After doing a quick blockout to see if everything fit together I just started modeling and kept going until it sort of looked alright. I know it sounds dumb and probably isn't very helpful if you don't have that much experience, but in the end that's how you really learn. Gotta bang your head against that wall.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jul 2023 23:46:32 UTC No. 952743
>>952742
>>952432
FYI, this is what my reference image in Blender looked like. If the one in that screenshot is all you have it probably won't get you very far.
Try to get shots from multiple angles and adjust them in Photoshop so they match up in terms of position and size.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 10:01:45 UTC No. 952794
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 12:15:42 UTC No. 952816
>>952794
It's mostly just the parts that would be visible from the outside. I did model some parts that you wouldn't see without disassembling the gun, but that was mostly because that made it easier to check if all the moving parts fit right in terms of size and position.
Based on the stuff I've seen since then I may have gone a little overboard there, but it was my first attempt so I tried to play it safe.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:50:51 UTC No. 952834
>>952816
very fucking cool dude, i just blocked the 3 main pieces and started modelling it, maybe i should break it down further but i want focus more on environments so not sure if i have model it even more pieces
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 14:57:22 UTC No. 952843
>>952834
You'll have to learn how to model either way. The fundamentals are more or less the same, and if you think you can get away with using simpler shapes or skimping on the details just because it's environment art you'll be in for a rude awakening.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 17:28:44 UTC No. 952854
>>952843
>skimping on the details just because it's environment art you'll be in for a rude awakening.
nono i am definitely focusing on the details. the shot i am working on is just going to show the exterior of the pistol and the bullets, so i just modeled the top, the handle and its cylindrical extrusion and the trigger as block outs. now I am going to model the holes and engravings. should i have also modelled the interior mechanism? i feel like that takes more time and it wont be even visible in the end product
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 20:51:16 UTC No. 952878
>>952854
That anon would probably say "yeah", but in all honesty if it's a static background prop, you could have just as easily taken an image plane of the gun, cut it out and give it some thickness in the right places, and maybe some bits poking out, and no one would give a shit or be the wiser. It'd be textured automatically since you cut it out of an existing image, and it'd come with all the nice little details that your brain would fill in since it's a background prop and doesn't get close enough to the camera for your brain to pick up that it's just a texture.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jul 2023 09:54:08 UTC No. 952954
>>952878
i am trying to avoid that workflow, i spent the majority of the last year making makeshift trimshifts and modelling shit and it does get results but if i bring it to something like unreal engine it will fall apart since most of my scenes are held up by cycles. my modelling skills took a huge dip when i was modelling via images.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jul 2023 06:26:56 UTC No. 953337
>>950927
i know something's good when i have the urge to steal it. great job.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jul 2023 00:16:57 UTC No. 953423
Don't make me use that other stank ass wip thread.
I am NOT posting on a wip thread without a hobbit hole in it.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:44:26 UTC No. 953462
On today's episode of "things that seem easy to model but actually aren't", a bicycle. Low poly, at 1200 faces, with moving parts like the front end, saddle, pedals, wheels. Feels nice
>>953423
Based
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jul 2023 00:42:03 UTC No. 953566
Trying to learn how to do cartoony fantasy characters. This is my second attempt at a face; the first looked like an awful Bratz doll. The eyes are probably still too big but I'll finish it anyways.