🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:12:18 UTC No. 15883875
Starship v2 - edition
previous >>15880707
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:15:31 UTC No. 15883881
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:21:22 UTC No. 15883894
>>15883875
real photo?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:29:48 UTC No. 15883902
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:32:29 UTC No. 15883904
>>15883887
Yeah it's pants on head retarded but at least SpaceX got free tendies to build starship with so whatever
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:35:41 UTC No. 15883907
>>15883904
>itt space cadet making rearded analogy followed by baseless overconfident claim
Sad
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:39:45 UTC No. 15883915
>>15883907
meds
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:43:40 UTC No. 15883922
>>15883875
Anons, is there any interesting launch or event left for spaceflight this year?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:45:39 UTC No. 15883925
https://twitter.com/NASAWatch/statu
Guy who choose starship as an interm admin before retiring passed away
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:46:54 UTC No. 15883927
>>15883922
IVO will do orbital testing of a quantized inertia thruster.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:48:58 UTC No. 15883933
>>15883922
Soyuz launches tomorrow and Electron returns to flight on Monday. Vulcan launches on Christmas Eve barring any delays.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:53:41 UTC No. 15883941
>>15883933
>interesting
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:55:10 UTC No. 15883946
>>15883933
>Electron returns to flight on Monday. Vulcan launches on Christmas Eve barring any delays.
hoping for total failure
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:55:13 UTC No. 15883947
>>15883933
>Vulcan launches
Rumao
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 20:58:06 UTC No. 15883955
>>15883922
In December Landspace is launching another Zhuque-2 and Falcon Heavy will be launching the X-37b for spooky reasons. We'll also get to see if SpaceX can launch 100 Falcons before Jan 1st.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:01:47 UTC No. 15883959
/sfg/ - stupid fucking general
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:01:58 UTC No. 15883960
>“Stephen G. Jurczyk, 61, of Fredericksburg, VA, passed away surrounded by his family on Thursday, November 23 (Thanksgiving Day) from pancreatic cancer. Stephen was born on February 20, 1962, to Walter and Jean Jurczyk in New York, N.Y. He graduated from the University of Virginia where he received Bachelor of Science and Master of Science degrees in Electrical Engineering in 1984 and 1986.” More — Ad Astra Steve.
https://nasawatch.com/personnel-new
Rest in peace
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:02:52 UTC No. 15883961
>>15883925
F
Genuinely. Pour one out for a real one.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:03:23 UTC No. 15883963
>>15883959
You're seething tranny
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:09:22 UTC No. 15883980
>>15883960
No wonder he did what he did. God bless this man, may /sfg/ never forget him
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:14:29 UTC No. 15883985
>>15883925
They killed him didn't they?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:17:29 UTC No. 15883991
Question, will HLS starship skip the sealevel engines on the ship? what about mars ships? since mars atmosphere is close enough to vacuum. so just 6 rvacs? or maybe they squeeze a few more in
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:21:25 UTC No. 15884001
>>15883991
pretty much nothing concrete is known about HLS Starship
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:22:13 UTC No. 15884004
>>15883991
So far the SpaceX renders show a regular 3+3 configuration with the 3 smaller nozzles used for steering. Final approach to lunar landing will be done 1+1, leaving 2 other sets as back ups.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:22:58 UTC No. 15884008
>>15883991
>will HLS or Mars Starship skip sea level engines
no, those are the only engines that are thrust vectored on Starship
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:24:09 UTC No. 15884011
>>15883991
not the most up to date render but only one that shows engines. legs and solar panels have been redesigned
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:25:17 UTC No. 15884012
>>15884011
better resolution
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:26:24 UTC No. 15884016
>>15884008
but HLS will have hot gas thrusters. are TVC engines still needed?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:27:08 UTC No. 15884017
>>15884016
yes
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:28:02 UTC No. 15884020
>>15884016
>hot gas thrusters
nah
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:29:05 UTC No. 15884024
>>15884020
ok, ullage gas thrusters, mr pedantic
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:30:01 UTC No. 15884026
>>15883875
i thought the 2nd starship stage had only 3 vacuum engines. does this mean they packed more fuel onboard?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:31:25 UTC No. 15884029
>>15883887
Is this the same NASA that plans to get to mars in 6 months time on a rocket that doesn't even have a prototype?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:31:57 UTC No. 15884031
>>15884027
Why are 90% of female astronauts ugly? Yummy females should be the only ones allowed, whats the point carrying dead weight if it doesnt look good?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:32:31 UTC No. 15884033
>>15884026
anon I have some bad news...
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:33:09 UTC No. 15884035
>>15884027
>cutie
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:34:49 UTC No. 15884037
>>15884026
that is not a real pic but v2 starship will probably have more engines, be stretched for more fuel
tweet from 2 years ago talking about 9 engines for starship >>15882996
tweet from earlier today talking about last v1 starships >>15882768 >>15882770
tweet from today talking about v2 having more propellant, being lighter and more reliable >>15883495
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:35:31 UTC No. 15884039
>>15884031
They are the top 1% high T women.
Astronaut training selects for masculine traits so they're the only ones that make it
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:37:45 UTC No. 15884044
>>15884027
There's no way they would send up a girl that attractive unless they are pairing with a N.
I hate the modern world
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:39:01 UTC No. 15884046
>>15884027
she is dreamy
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:39:16 UTC No. 15884047
>>15884037
no a real pic in what sense? it looks real to me, but the outside ring of engines seem to be pointing slightly inwards. Is it a video game render? or a photoshop job?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:39:27 UTC No. 15884048
>>15884008
why doesnt it just use the flaps to steer like gridfins?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:39:36 UTC No. 15884049
>>15884027
>cutie
>>15884044
>attractive
Are there boomers posting in my spaceflight general?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:39:51 UTC No. 15884051
>>15884047
you can render 3d graphics in things that aren't video games
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:40:10 UTC No. 15884053
>>15884045
This guy is delusional
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:40:52 UTC No. 15884054
>>15884048
shut up retard
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:41:19 UTC No. 15884056
>>15884047
photoshop i think
https://imgur.com/oTkoU1v
https://twitter.com/TheDenks/status
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:41:40 UTC No. 15884057
>>15884051
it's not a 3d render, it's a mid tier photoshop. are you a retard?
>>15884048
i dont know, you'd think that would work
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:42:23 UTC No. 15884059
>>15883875
I'm glad they are going back to the 6 vac engine design finally. Its by far the sexiest look. The back end of Starship will rival shuttle in sex appeal.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:42:45 UTC No. 15884060
>>15884049
Yes there are boomiepies who cup old space balls and downplay the absolute disaster of the past 50 years in thread right now.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:42:56 UTC No. 15884062
>>15884056
we need a single vectored vacuum engine in the middle. enough of these inefficient sea level fag engines
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:44:17 UTC No. 15884064
>>15884056
why does 2nd stage have the less efficient central engines for gimbal? just a matter of compromise, as vacuum engine bells are too large to have enough space to move?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:44:22 UTC No. 15884065
>>15884056
In this configuration there is no room for the center engines to angle outward and light during the staging, so I assume only the vac engines will light during staging?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:45:10 UTC No. 15884068
>>15884064
for landing on Earth
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:45:19 UTC No. 15884070
>>15884057
>are you a retard?
yeah
>>15884065
go watch the launch stream again
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:45:23 UTC No. 15884071
>>15884062
And you will land how?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:45:43 UTC No. 15884073
>>15883985
they actually wanted to do it before he could select Starship, but you know how slow governments are
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:46:21 UTC No. 15884075
>>15884064
Starship doesn't use the vacuum engines to land.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:46:26 UTC No. 15884076
>>15884065
plenty of room and not needed anyway
>>15884071
with the engine
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:50:06 UTC No. 15884084
>>15884076
ARE YOU BLACK!?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:55:23 UTC No. 15884095
>>15884084
I am an ally
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:59:24 UTC No. 15884110
>>15884031
only Italians should be allowed into space
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:03:55 UTC No. 15884122
>>15884110
nordics are better, just need to remove the shorts
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:06:00 UTC No. 15884128
>>15884110
as an Italian, I agree
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:06:03 UTC No. 15884129
>>15884122
>nordics
>>15884053
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:08:00 UTC No. 15884135
>>15884031
Unfortunately, the Japanese are only allowed so many astronaut spots and the Chinese are right out
I don't know what's wrong with the Koreans.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:08:04 UTC No. 15884137
>>15884122
women should be banned from wearing pants in space
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:09:01 UTC No. 15884140
>>15884046
>blind AND gay
sad
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:10:02 UTC No. 15884143
>>15884095
equally disgusting
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:10:36 UTC No. 15884145
>>15884045
>33
What is with this fucking jewish evil magic number, getting real tired of seeing it everywhere
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:11:20 UTC No. 15884149
>>15884145
number enjoyer bros, should I take my medicine?
it makes me stop seeing the numbers
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:12:24 UTC No. 15884155
>>15884145
Also my battery number when I typed this. Very cool.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:15:22 UTC No. 15884168
>>15884129
there's a cute swedish girl i work with, i like her
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:18:19 UTC No. 15884173
Can one of you nerds give me a qrd on what happened to starship + booster yet or have you not figured it out?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:18:28 UTC No. 15884174
>>15884140
she's a blind lesbo astronaut??
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:18:54 UTC No. 15884175
>Jurczyk is dead
WHAT
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:20:15 UTC No. 15884182
>>15884173
boom + boom
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:20:34 UTC No. 15884185
>>15884173
We just don't know
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:22:40 UTC No. 15884189
>>15884173
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/N1akMdMZ
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:24:02 UTC No. 15884197
https://youtu.be/6btgPqRod1c?t=85
>Born October 25, 1935
>Recorded sometime in March 2023
WTF are they feeding this guy?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:24:48 UTC No. 15884200
>>15884189
China is so based
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:25:48 UTC No. 15884203
>>15884197
lead + asbestos >> microplastics
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:28:01 UTC No. 15884208
>>15884122
imagine slamming that ass in zero g
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:28:32 UTC No. 15884210
>>15884173
Superheavy experienced some bad fuel slosh as a result of the hot staging and then leaned a bit too hard into the boost back maneuver. Some Raptors ingested gas and exploded, and that somehow propagated up the fuel lines and RUD'ed the booster. Starship sprung a leak in its LOX tank and when the flight computer saw it wasn't going to be able to make it to Hawaii it blew up the ship. We still don't have any idea what might have caused the leak.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:33:33 UTC No. 15884229
>>15884210
>it occured to me in a dream
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:33:54 UTC No. 15884230
>>15884053
>this man can generate extreme frothing at the mouth from anyone on the political spectrum with a mere tweet
i'm honestly jealous of him.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:34:29 UTC No. 15884234
>>15884197
Fucking hell he only looks about 70 and sounds completely lucid
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:36:09 UTC No. 15884239
>>15884210
I thought it's pretty much settled that the booster's flight termination system was activated
But why the engine failures? Just a cascading failure due to the roughness of the hot staging?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:36:56 UTC No. 15884242
elon is 52. he will get old and die
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:39:10 UTC No. 15884245
>>15883922
SpaceX seems to be serious about trying to do IFT-3 before the end of the year.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:39:51 UTC No. 15884247
>>15884242
not for a while
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:41:08 UTC No. 15884254
>>15884247
his usefulness is already waning rapidly
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:42:39 UTC No. 15884261
>>15884245
No they arent lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:42:55 UTC No. 15884263
>>15884254
Chicom shills at it again.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:43:36 UTC No. 15884264
>>15884242
Thats what I respect about him. He sets insane unreachable deadlines because he understands his own mortality. Zubrin will sadly die before humans land on Mars. And Musk will really be pushing it when it comes to Mars colonization. Everything has to go perfectly and Maybe Musk developes the 18m wide second gen starship by 20 years from now and gets to reture on an early colony. But the most likely outome is that he wont live to see it sadly.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:43:49 UTC No. 15884266
>>15884197
>cosmic birth
ludicrous
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:44:58 UTC No. 15884270
>>15884263
I've only made 1 pro-china post all thread
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:46:06 UTC No. 15884273
>>15884264
He'll die on Mars, and if need be he will die on impact.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:48:25 UTC No. 15884280
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:49:06 UTC No. 15884281
>>15884264
the succession plan has me worried. i dont think he has one
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:49:56 UTC No. 15884282
>>15884012
i keep thinking that a rocket that big will just sink in the soft ground of the moon and fall over.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:50:33 UTC No. 15884283
>>15884270
Being pro-China isn't the only way you guys shill. Most of the time it's generally targeted anti-Western sentiments.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:50:41 UTC No. 15884284
>>15884239
That's what I thought at first, but then a lot of people started disagreeing with it. There was a vague twitter consensus towards the explosion possibility, but we're not really going to know for sure until SpaceX puts out something official.
The thrust from the hot staging pushed the booster back. Since that thrust was the only thing keeping the propellant pinned at the bottom of the tanks, it started moving forward. Then the booster leaned over hard into the boost back turn and the prop started crawling right up the walls of the tank. More pushing from being in line with Starship's exhaust may have made this issue worse. All of that combined to expose the fuel intakes and then Raptors started failing shortly after re-ignition. Raptor's a great engine but gas in the turbopumps isn't something that any engine is going to find survivable.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:51:06 UTC No. 15884287
>>15884273
Can I sign up for that today
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:52:52 UTC No. 15884292
>>15884283
Very smart pigdog
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:54:10 UTC No. 15884294
>>15884287
Millenials like you deserve to live out the Earth hell
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:56:44 UTC No. 15884304
>>15884283
Pro-China and anti-US people (like me) love Elon, anti-Elon people are generally pro-US lefties
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:58:24 UTC No. 15884309
>>15884292
You wumaou are always so transparent.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:58:41 UTC No. 15884310
>>15884304
lefties hate Elon, the US, and humanity
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:59:46 UTC No. 15884312
>>15884304
Have you been living under a rock the last few years?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:59:48 UTC No. 15884313
>>15884281
There certainly isnt one. Noone can replace him. SpaceX is the way that it is because its an example of an absolute monarchy with a competent monarch. All the other launch companies are run by pure oligarchies or at the very best soft monarchies with a very hands off weak monarch, so they naturally become lethargic and parasitic. SpaceX with its power structure is like lightning in a bottle, and if Musks sucessor is indeed an absolute monarch but is incompetent then they will destroy the company in a few short years. The best we can hope for is that one of Musks sons can step up to the plate, but thats extraordinarily unlikely. Sadly the most likely outcome is that once he is gone Musk is seen as this reveered founder, but SpaceX will only pay his ideals lip service and will become an example of oldspace grift, only ever doing what makes financial sense on the near to medium term with their ageing fleet of starships.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:00:22 UTC No. 15884315
>>15884309
i'm from Arizona
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:00:47 UTC No. 15884319
>>15884281
he has made a lot of kids to try to find a successor, X is interested in rockets so maybe he works out and has similar drive
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:02:39 UTC No. 15884320
>>15884313
boeibg 2.0 with no competition sounds like a nightmare
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:03:43 UTC No. 15884323
>>15884313
Normies just dont seem to grasp the concept of a entrepeneur.
Elon is the guy who gets all the right people in one room and steps in to make hard decisions when they can't agree on something.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:04:32 UTC No. 15884324
>>15884155
>Brave browser
based
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:04:57 UTC No. 15884327
>>15884189
One of the best write-ups I've seen and the MTL is really impressive.
It was written by an i-Space employee, cool to see that they're excited about it as much as we are
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:05:27 UTC No. 15884329
>>15884323
he's a meany poopoo head like trump and make people feel bad!! rrrraaaaawrr!!
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:05:58 UTC No. 15884331
>>15884155
>phone poster
Cringe
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:06:44 UTC No. 15884333
>>15884189
Is this from the company that did a hopper test a few weeks ago
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:06:50 UTC No. 15884335
>>15884313
thats why Mars need to get most of the way towards self sufficiency and perhaps given ownership of SpaceX or something somehow before he dies, so even if SpaceX itself becomes less effective, the multiplanetary mission is achieved
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:07:09 UTC No. 15884339
>>15884155
>too stupid to use a clover branch
retard alert
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:08:21 UTC No. 15884342
I can tell that you all arent the same group from before IFT-2. Whoever you all are, just know your posts are good and to keep it up.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:08:22 UTC No. 15884343
>>15884335
That's a pretty good idea. The martians have incentive to keep interplanetary travel as cheap as possible
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:10:55 UTC No. 15884345
>>15883925
He's a hero.
These haunted eyes saw the future without Starship.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:14:15 UTC No. 15884353
>>15884345
The STS-Constellation-Artemis hundred billion dollars stare
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:14:39 UTC No. 15884354
>>15884120
Somehow that ladder seems significantly more ridiculous than the lift. It's just goofy.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:17:03 UTC No. 15884365
>>15884354
It's retarded.
>ok c'mon guys now let's carry 200kg of moon rocks up a three story ladder on our backs
I'm not surprised blorp eventually went to a tanks-on-top architecture.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:17:04 UTC No. 15884366
>>15884242
2050 would he would be 79
Musks father is 77 seems lucid enough, Musk is the richest person in the world so has plenty of access to the best healthcare and medical tech will continue to improve from now until 2050
there is a good chance Musk is still alive in 2050 and beyond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfN
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:18:38 UTC No. 15884369
>>15884366
its funny how musks arms have gotten bigger the more hes aged
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:19:41 UTC No. 15884374
>>15884319
This is why he should have listened to Heinlein and formed a perpetual polygamist group. You just ladder younger spouses and pass leadership that way.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:20:46 UTC No. 15884379
>>15884333
yes
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:23:10 UTC No. 15884384
>>15884335
That would be great from an incentives point of view. The only trouble is how do the Martians practically manage a company based on another planet.
The whole Mars colonization thing has got an air of religious zeal around it which some hate, but I think its a good thing, because we need that zeal to get it done. In a good future, the SpaceX leadership remains ideologically driven and people in management need to take at least one trip to Mars and back as some kind of ritual to stick in their mind
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:23:37 UTC No. 15884386
>>15884369
He's evolving wings.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:24:50 UTC No. 15884388
>>15884374
I don't think polygamy is very stable, people tend to get jealous
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:27:34 UTC No. 15884392
>>15884319
X has got the rocket autism very deeply embedded and he's clearly smart, hopefully Elon can instill the business acumen and first-principles mindset.
>Alright son, you're 25, I'm going to go die on Mars in the colony. The empire is yours now, don't fuck things up.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:28:50 UTC No. 15884394
>>15884384
its going to become a multiplanetary company with operations both on earth and mars
I guess the colony would need to be under US political control for a while though as before Mars actually becomes self sufficient then that really can't be helped
probably going to be a semi-constant problem
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:29:03 UTC No. 15884395
>>15884319
what about the tranny son?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:30:06 UTC No. 15884398
>>15884395
Disinherit and it will ack itself soon enough
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:34:45 UTC No. 15884408
>>15884395
irrelevant
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:34:59 UTC No. 15884410
>>15884384
>pilgrimage to Mars is a mandatory prerequisite for promotion to the C-suite or board of directors of the X Corporation
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:35:42 UTC No. 15884413
>>15884394
It's going to get ugly if it happens. Imagine being born on Mars and having to pay taxes to some jews on a whole different fucking planet.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:39:36 UTC No. 15884418
>>15884282
moon is hard actually
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:40:46 UTC No. 15884421
>>15884388
Human civilization has two stable modes: strict monogamy, or polygyny with differentiated ranks for female partners (not every woman is a wife) and eunuchs (troons).
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:40:56 UTC No. 15884422
>>15884384
It's the endgame of corporate feudalism. Companies will begin to compensate employees with untaxable perks rather than taxable currency, so they'll begin to value loyalty and internal promotion over bringing in mercenary outsiders. Company housing, company childcare, company store, company cafeteria. Positions will pass down bloodlines. They will gradually become more and more ideologically insular. Corporate mission statements become personal credos become holy scripture. Eventually, the true believers take the corporation private, freeing it from outside influence.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:41:50 UTC No. 15884426
>>15884419
https://twitter.com/Ringwatchers/st
https://ringwatchers.com/article/s2
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:42:51 UTC No. 15884427
>>15884426
https://twitter.com/Ringwatchers/st
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:44:32 UTC No. 15884433
>>15884239
>I thought it's pretty much settled
>it occured to me in a dream
>>15884284
>twitter consensus
kill yourself
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:47:36 UTC No. 15884442
Is Starship V2 gonna further delay the HLS development timeline?
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:48:06 UTC No. 15884443
https://twitter.com/Ringwatchers/st
> Raptor Diagram #6 | 21st November, 2023 | "We're going to need a 4th one of these soon..."
https://ringwatchers.com/diagrams/r
https://twitter.com/Ringwatchers/st
> They are all raptor 2's on here. When spacex started producing raptor 2's they started back at 1.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:49:53 UTC No. 15884445
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:51:12 UTC No. 15884447
>>15884445
I wonder if they have scrapped a bunch or if they are just in storage somewhere
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:52:17 UTC No. 15884450
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:57:52 UTC No. 15884462
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:58:54 UTC No. 15884466
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:59:56 UTC No. 15884468
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:01:50 UTC No. 15884471
>>15884282
>>15884418
imagine if everything else that landed on the moon just got lucky and some places actually have hundreds of feet of lightly packed dust
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:02:16 UTC No. 15884473
>>15884229
>an angel appeared to me in a dream and told me it was okay to just make shit up and lie about it
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:03:17 UTC No. 15884475
>>15884242
you first!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:04:29 UTC No. 15884477
>>15884394
I hate feds so goddamn much
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:04:58 UTC No. 15884478
>>15884287
Sure, bro. You don't even need to go to Mars.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:05:11 UTC No. 15884480
>>15884476
cislunar economy is more practical, sustainable, and important in the short term
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:05:58 UTC No. 15884483
>>15884471
I am going to sift it for ores
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:06:27 UTC No. 15884486
>>15884444
quads checked and hello newfriend.
this is a frame from the WB-57 video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOv
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:06:27 UTC No. 15884487
>>15884313
>Noone can replace him
that makes no sense
he's even older
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:07:45 UTC No. 15884490
>>15884476
getting to the moon is much easier and thus cheaper and landing on the moon is easier because lower gravity and no atmosphere
its just a lower hanging fruit for rover missions and the like
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:08:51 UTC No. 15884492
>>15884471
apollo had a contingency for this IIRC
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:09:17 UTC No. 15884494
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:09:39 UTC No. 15884495
>>15884486
webm. Looking back, how the FUCK did Starship get away with this?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:11:24 UTC No. 15884500
>>15884494
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:11:41 UTC No. 15884501
>>15884284
If you look at the video frame by frame I'm pretty sure the explosion starts right at the same place the FTS was installed at which really makes me think it was FTS and not some random explosion
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:12:04 UTC No. 15884503
>>15884495
sturdy
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:12:19 UTC No. 15884505
>>15884495
she's a fat overweight hog
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:13:02 UTC No. 15884508
>>15884505
she's just curvy, aerodynamic if you will
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:13:28 UTC No. 15884510
>>15884496
Bugs me that the flame isnt porple
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:14:14 UTC No. 15884511
>>15884496
cool
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:20:40 UTC No. 15884523
>>15884476
>military starships
finally a response to the ayy menace
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:26:27 UTC No. 15884528
>>15884490
>landing on the moon is easier because lower gravity and no atmosphere
The lack of atmosphere actually makes it harder because you can't aerobrake.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:27:26 UTC No. 15884531
>>15884495
>1970-01-01
epoch fail
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:29:25 UTC No. 15884536
>>15884528
you need a bit more deltaV but I would argue its easier overall
on mars you need elaborate systems
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:35:18 UTC No. 15884543
>>15884495
Build like brick shithouse.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:36:56 UTC No. 15884545
>>15884495
nippon steel folded 1000 times
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:37:03 UTC No. 15884546
>>15884495
rocket stronk
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:37:13 UTC No. 15884547
>>15884523
more like, time for ODSTs
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:38:34 UTC No. 15884548
>>15884528
aerobreaking on Earth and Venus is easy because you can do final landing with parachutes and buoyancy respectively
Mars makes aerobreaking harder because you still need to land propulsively, which turns everything into either an acrobatic flippy dance or a rube goldberg machine
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:41:31 UTC No. 15884551
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:45:54 UTC No. 15884558
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:46:58 UTC No. 15884559
>>15884545
This but unironically
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:47:28 UTC No. 15884560
>>15884494
>>15884551
>>15884558
We did it reddit!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:50:02 UTC No. 15884562
>>15884559
I thought this was graffiti under a bridge by the thumbnail
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:51:28 UTC No. 15884564
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:53:11 UTC No. 15884566
>>15884560
Did what?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:54:53 UTC No. 15884567
>>15884566
"It"
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:55:13 UTC No. 15884568
>>15884564
the eternal bureucrats
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:56:20 UTC No. 15884570
>>15884564
whats he talking about 'it worked'?
He abandoned memesat launchers as soon as NASA gave him enough money
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:56:22 UTC No. 15884571
>>15884558
G
(3 minutes until it starts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oed
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:57:30 UTC No. 15884572
>>15884570
it did work didn't it? one successful launch
the article mentions a bigger version of Falcon as well
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:57:53 UTC No. 15884573
>>15884564
God he looks ugly
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:58:37 UTC No. 15884575
>>15884563
>it worked
No, it exploded three times lmfao this guy
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 00:59:11 UTC No. 15884576
>>15884572
the whole angle musk was going with in that talk was saying small memelaunchers are good and rideshare is bad, when rideshare is exactly what worked so well for lowering memesat cost to space
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:01:02 UTC No. 15884578
>>15884571
lol
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:05:26 UTC No. 15884582
BUY THE STAGE0 TSHIRTS GOY
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:05:43 UTC No. 15884583
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:11:49 UTC No. 15884585
>20 refuelings for a lunar lander
>boiloff
Bezos bros were right.
But I guess NASA is even more interested in not landing.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:12:47 UTC No. 15884588
>>15884496
Are these a 4chan made thing?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:13:25 UTC No. 15884590
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:14:12 UTC No. 15884592
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:14:54 UTC No. 15884595
>>15884588
yeah, but spacex liked my design
https://shop.spacex.com/collections
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:16:37 UTC No. 15884596
SpaceX will be able to do landings without SLS/Orion, but will Blue Origin have that capability?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:17:34 UTC No. 15884600
>>15884596
of course, they can dock to starship
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:17:59 UTC No. 15884602
>>15884495
Failure to disconnect created a uniform surface area 400ft long, which made it harder for it to breakup.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:27:46 UTC No. 15884610
>>15884606
Er, where did he get our meme from bros?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:28:39 UTC No. 15884613
>>15884610
he is the guy constantly ironyposting about how good blue origin is
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:30:36 UTC No. 15884615
>>15884610
he’s in these threads. Has been for ages
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:31:17 UTC No. 15884616
>>15884610
it wasnt our meme. we stole it from xeeter
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:33:44 UTC No. 15884619
>>15884495
world record largest blunt
420 y'alls
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:35:11 UTC No. 15884620
ITS OVER.
am i hearing this right, they have to pump C02 into the engine bay in order to not have the engines explode?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:37:55 UTC No. 15884622
>>15884620
pretty damning, and yeah it's true. dumped all my spacex stock when i heard
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:39:50 UTC No. 15884623
>>15884620
its over
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:44:40 UTC No. 15884627
>>15884620
TELL ME IT AINT TRUE. IM SHAKING.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:45:07 UTC No. 15884628
CSI wanted for one of the engines explode during IFT-2 lol
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:50:15 UTC No. 15884633
>>15884628
they only didn't explode because they were pumping 15x the amount of c02 down there. it's over. half the payload is c02 at this point.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:54:18 UTC No. 15884636
>>15884633
this is crazy and horrifying
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:54:29 UTC No. 15884637
>>15884620
are you implying there is something wrong with this?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:54:33 UTC No. 15884638
>>15884633
just have to yolo it without any shielding so there are no places for methane gas to concentrate for the MOX bombs
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:57:21 UTC No. 15884639
>>15884620
>>15884633
This black guy is just making shit up lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:59:05 UTC No. 15884641
>>15884620
Two carbon atoms??
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 01:59:29 UTC No. 15884643
>>15884639
oh hi musk.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:04:57 UTC No. 15884647
>>15880921
>bezos employing the same cheap chinky knockoff and intellectual property theft tricks for rockets that he got rich by using at amazon.
one trick pony
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:05:54 UTC No. 15884648
>>15884395
>trannyism is "I hate my dad" the disease
funni
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:09:16 UTC No. 15884651
>>15884645
ZOG is in the process of rolling out another fake pandemic for the upcoming election year on the same timeline that they started in 2019 for the 2020 election, maybe that will help /sci/ break it's record for posts per day
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:10:36 UTC No. 15884654
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MHtq
referring to IFT-1 I think
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:11:33 UTC No. 15884656
>>15884595
>israel
what the FUCK
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:12:21 UTC No. 15884659
Super Heavy's braap trail (greenish brown) was a bit distasteful desu.
Maybe it will look better in overhead light instead of a sunrise.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:25:30 UTC No. 15884674
>>15884672
You don't want to go there, its cartel territory
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:26:33 UTC No. 15884677
>>15884674
So many fucking pussies on /sfg/. Go back you weak flimsy faggot
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:30:51 UTC No. 15884683
>>15884672
You can probably hitch a ride, lots of friendly people
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:32:13 UTC No. 15884684
>>15884677
Risking getting beheaded do you can watch a launch 500m closer, lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:33:47 UTC No. 15884685
>>15884684
Higher chance of that happening on the American side. The only American to die anywhere around Matamoros in the last few years was a dumb nigger
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:34:02 UTC No. 15884686
>>15884676
>they will all be launching by 2025
Lol no
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:36:22 UTC No. 15884689
>>15884686
Oh yeah Terran R is 2026
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:36:52 UTC No. 15884690
>>15884684
They apologized
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:39:26 UTC No. 15884695
>>15884691
why are you calling it MLV? are they not calling it Antares anymore?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:40:45 UTC No. 15884697
>>15884684
it's safe
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:40:56 UTC No. 15884698
Scott manley was wrong, yet again.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:41:57 UTC No. 15884701
>>15884697
All those people got their heads cut off
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:44:46 UTC No. 15884703
>>15884701
I just don't like it when someone has a better view of the launch than me, okay?!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:46:55 UTC No. 15884708
>>15884697
what is this potato quality
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:47:16 UTC No. 15884709
>>15884701
naturally
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:47:21 UTC No. 15884710
>>15884703
befriend an ocelot and have it sneak you into the wetlands around starbase
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:47:45 UTC No. 15884711
>>15884703
a reddit thread was linked here before IFT 1 and everyone was practically begging OP not to go to Mexico. it did strike me as jealousy, not actual fear for their safety. reminiscent of the covid mandates and social pressure. Everydayastronaut put out a video about boca chica and what to expect, and even in that he was like "dont even think about going to the mexican side". It all boils down to jealousy basically. every photographer knows the views are better there, but they're all fucking pussies
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:50:28 UTC No. 15884715
lots of people cross the border daily without problems
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:51:09 UTC No. 15884717
>>15884715
they're called mexicans
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:51:16 UTC No. 15884718
>>15884715
look at all these people not wearing masks, not a care in the fucking world. ok guys but youre killing grandma
https://youtu.be/y3QwlKOO1p4
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:51:22 UTC No. 15884720
>>15884709
Death to tiles
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:54:21 UTC No. 15884721
3 weeks until IFT-3
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:03:53 UTC No. 15884724
>>15884620
Simply use the exhaust products from the engines to fill the engine bay.
>>15884645
Starship is now routine.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:04:17 UTC No. 15884726
>>15884721
no that can’t be right. perhaps off by a week?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:05:14 UTC No. 15884727
>>15884726
1 week per every IFT
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:06:15 UTC No. 15884728
>>15884645
ONLY ON X
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:11:08 UTC No. 15884736
IFT-3 just flew over my house
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:17:36 UTC No. 15884743
>>15884736
gross, an earther
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:29:16 UTC No. 15884748
>>15884615
He's one of the guys who always stage early.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:34:13 UTC No. 15884751
>>15884645
It was stupidly early. I had to get up at 4am to watch.
t. west coast
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:36:04 UTC No. 15884752
>>15884620
>>15884639
newfags go back
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:47:35 UTC No. 15884760
>>15884752
i've been here for so very long
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 03:54:25 UTC No. 15884763
>>15884756
being redesigned for QI thrusters
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:18:27 UTC No. 15884782
>>15884695
The Antares 330 uses the MLV's first stage with the A230's Castor 30XL upper stage. The MLV replaces the Castor with a more civilized liquid fueled stage.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:19:24 UTC No. 15884784
>>15884245
They are also serious about boots on Mars by 2022
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:25:14 UTC No. 15884787
>>15883960
>from pancreatic cancer
Dood how you even croak from this basic bitch cancer. He must have denied all treatment
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:26:43 UTC No. 15884790
>>15884784
I never said "serious" was a synonym for "achievable."
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:27:15 UTC No. 15884791
>In preparation for NASA’s launch of SpaceX Starship, a 437th Airlift Wing C-17 Globemaster III cargo aircraft is loaded with life-saving rescue equipment in preparation for a NASA’s launch of SpaceX Starship at Joint Base Charleston, South Carolina, Aug. 23, 2023. In the event of a non-nominal launch, an alert crew would employ the equipment to rescue astronauts and retrieve them from capsules.
https://www.dvidshub.net/image/7991
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:27:40 UTC No. 15884793
>>15884784
Spacex is a fraud confirmed
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:30:31 UTC No. 15884796
>>15884791
Lolwut. Are they talking about Crew Dragon doing an abort?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:32:48 UTC No. 15884799
>>15884796
no clue. I just noticed the descriptions are slightly different under each image in the gallery.
>Personnel from various bases and DoD agencies undergo specific training to collaborate and provide support for NASA and SpaceX missions in the event of potential complications.
>Should SpaceX experience a non-nominal launch, a rescue mission will originate from JB Charleston, carrying out an overwater airdrop to ensure the safety of the capsule and its crew.
> In the event of a non-nominal launch, an alert crew would employ the equipment to rescue astronauts and retrieve them from capsules.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:43:33 UTC No. 15884813
>>15884795
Just two African Americans jiving with each other
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 04:50:12 UTC No. 15884816
>>15884813
shut up elon
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:07:05 UTC No. 15884827
>>15884672
how do you have the presence of mind to look at the map but not switch to satellite imagery?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:08:46 UTC No. 15884830
>>15884697
this looks like DALL-E generated it but I know that the scene itself is real, I'm going insane
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:11:49 UTC No. 15884832
>>15884830
mexican cameras are about 20-30 years behind
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:21:24 UTC No. 15884840
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:23:03 UTC No. 15884842
>>15884840
everyone's so fucking fat
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:25:34 UTC No. 15884844
>>15884842
post body
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:30:50 UTC No. 15884852
Day 51 of the Project Kuiper era.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:34:51 UTC No. 15884858
>>15884795
i geniunely wonder if Elon actually watched the full thing, its 50min long, man is addicted to twitter, and zack can be slight cringe at times. saying this cause hes got one of the most unique and technical perspectives and insights of all the starship youtubers so he's worth watching without distraction imo, every episode is so godamn information dense, desu I even take it 30 min at a time
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:36:15 UTC No. 15884860
>>15884858
shit I guess I answered me own question, prolly takes breaks inbetween too
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:39:43 UTC No. 15884861
>>15884760
>talk about the cool sexy space suit with unusually great range of motion
>0 demonstration of it's feasibility
>fund your speech on the """concept""" by doing speeches on the """concept"""
>grift continues for 15 fucking years
>people eat it up every time
It's all so tiresome
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:43:24 UTC No. 15884864
>>15884861
my neighbor looks like the professor lady and i fucked my neighbor
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:47:23 UTC No. 15884866
so what exactly was the reason the booster RUDed ?
was it the fuel sloshin around, resulting in massive radial forces against the walls of booster, or the valves getting fucked because of sudden stop of flow ?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:49:11 UTC No. 15884870
>>15884866
it was
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 05:56:07 UTC No. 15884874
>>15884870
damn, ULA snipers candlejacked hi-
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:13:24 UTC No. 15884878
>>15884035
space adds like 5 points
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:19:57 UTC No. 15884883
>>15884495
Traditional American engineering
Everything is overbuilt which makes things rather sturdy even if made of shitty materials and operating in adverse conditions.
Starship really does remind me of just any 60/70s American vehicle. You know the V8/straight 6 inside is made out of relative garbage, it's heavy, inefficient but doesn't care about the garbage oil you haven't changed in a year and doesn't grenade itself.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:27:04 UTC No. 15884890
>>15884840
What the fuck is she looking at?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:29:25 UTC No. 15884892
>>15884858
Sounds like endless speculation for hour.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:30:56 UTC No. 15884893
>>15884890
Forgot pic
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:31:37 UTC No. 15884894
>>15884893
she's watching the stream asshole
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:42:23 UTC No. 15884899
>>15884894
But the rocket is the other way
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:54:57 UTC No. 15884905
>>15884899
...well i'll be
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 07:12:05 UTC No. 15884913
>>15884883
Also a focus on being big enough to carry people and their shit comfortably. Riding a Russian capsule is low grade torture.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 07:37:43 UTC No. 15884940
my theory is the deluge/diverter actually did nothing. in reality, the quicker throttle up without loitering on the pad was the real reason the pad remained in good condition
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:09:03 UTC No. 15884956
>>15884943
Looks like Starship is evolving back to ITS, only thing left to do is to make it fatter.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:11:47 UTC No. 15884959
>>15884956
it would never get off the pad. come back when raptor 6 drops
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:12:33 UTC No. 15884962
>>15884943
She was so beautiful bros...
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:14:01 UTC No. 15884964
>>15884239
>>15884210
its a split between flight termination and RUD on its own. The uniform way the booster dissasembled without majory pieces seems to indicate a command termination
both stages inbetween do have over 200-300 kilos of explosives strapped to them
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:15:51 UTC No. 15884967
>>15884964
the black person confirmed FTS
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:17:08 UTC No. 15884970
>>15884858
wasnt this the doomer dooming on about how its going to take years before the olm is fixed back in april?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:17:25 UTC No. 15884972
>>15884795
He said good video. if he really liked it he would have said great video.
>>15884892
>>15884860
>>15884860
I just skip though to parts that are most interesting to me.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:19:47 UTC No. 15884974
>>15884956
and add big legs to the upper stage for landing on rough surfaces
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:20:13 UTC No. 15884975
>>15884674
cartel crash test dummies are not there you giant homo. They mostly operate where the narco routes are which certainly aint going through boca chica
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:21:06 UTC No. 15884977
>>15884974
The legs will have to happen anyways
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:27:59 UTC No. 15884981
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:31:23 UTC No. 15884984
is Moonraker a good space flick
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:31:50 UTC No. 15884985
>>15884975
>Starbase, Boca Chica becomes a nexus for cross-border and interplanetary crime
Kino
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:32:47 UTC No. 15884986
>>15884981
How is it landing on moon or mars
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:34:31 UTC No. 15884989
>>15884986
there are smarter people than me can figure it out
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:37:27 UTC No. 15884991
SpaceX is an isekai.
>there is another world, possibly with catgirls
>truck-kun drags the ships to the pad and the astronauts to the ships
>Elon is a weeb
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:45:40 UTC No. 15884999
>>15884991
elon musk is obi wan kenobi
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:51:20 UTC No. 15885008
there is something about /sfg/ that screams to me "diarrhea diarrheaaa" over and over in my mind and i cant get it the fuck out
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:53:38 UTC No. 15885013
>>15885008
It's either that one part from the Moon Base Alpha video or you're Indian and that word is just the background noise of your brain
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:55:34 UTC No. 15885018
>>15885013
mama mia, papa pia. you might be right
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:55:57 UTC No. 15885019
aeiou
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:06:55 UTC No. 15885031
>>15884648
The "hate dad" part came after Musk took a dive into right wing politics after his came out as trans. Musk blames liberals for corrupting his kid and his kid hates him for reacting that way.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:11:15 UTC No. 15885035
>>15885031
troons are idiots by definition
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:19:55 UTC No. 15885046
clear is a troon but you guys accept him
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:28:13 UTC No. 15885052
>>15884830
SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:31:21 UTC No. 15885057
>>15885046
>but you guys accept him
No I just got tired of telling vtuber-autismos to go away, and now I ignore them like you're supposed to do
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:35:05 UTC No. 15885059
>hls starship will be made from aluminium not stainless steel
it's OVER.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:41:35 UTC No. 15885065
>>15885046
I do not
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:50:29 UTC No. 15885075
the fact that hls requires a complete redesign is embarrassing. ITS would have bene able to do the lunar landing on the base model. god I miss that rocket.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:00:44 UTC No. 15885084
>>15884748
He just wants to show off his rocking beach bod and yet we keep rejecting him.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:05:51 UTC No. 15885095
>>15885059
Where is this information from
If you say el deuce I will post fumos at you
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:13:56 UTC No. 15885105
>>15885059
not true.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:14:53 UTC No. 15885108
>>15885095
You should post fumos anyway.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:19:32 UTC No. 15885111
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:44:43 UTC No. 15885137
>>15885108
No I'm trying to sleep
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:49:45 UTC No. 15885141
>>15884242
Joe Biden is 81 and is still the US president. Musk will be fine.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:52:53 UTC No. 15885145
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:01:32 UTC No. 15885149
>20 launches in rapid succession
What is "rapid"?
Does this niggr Elon not know that either you have 20 pads ready and launch at the same time, or you have to wait 24h between one launch and the next until the orbital plane of the target passes above the launch site?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:14:04 UTC No. 15885165
>>15884970
better version
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:16:23 UTC No. 15885167
>>15884943
what a wrong chart
>2019-2023
lmao, current starship shape was already being made in 2020
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:22:22 UTC No. 15885179
>>15885149
Twice a day actually. Although I think Boca Chica is heavily limited in available inclinations so you're right in that case. Three launch opportunities per day with Florida and Boca Chica
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:28:16 UTC No. 15885196
>>15885179
Don't forget that they also need shitloads of fuel
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:29:11 UTC No. 15885198
>>15885149
>only 20 pads
oh ye of small mind
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:05:16 UTC No. 15885225
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:12:30 UTC No. 15885235
I've been running some deltaV numbers, and you could probably make a pretty decent 'core to orbit' 1.5 stage reusable system using falcon heavy.
The side boosters would land themselves and you could put some kind of wing system on the core stage, like the energia concepts.
Ideally you would use less Merlin engines on the core, possibly with slightly expanded nozzles for higher vacuum ISP, there is considerable excess thrust with 9 engines and no second stage.
Figures are around 40tons excess mass total (on top of the 20t core dry mass) that can be split between reusability hardware and payload.
You could maybe cut 5 tons or so off the baseline core dry mass by removing landing legs and engines, to help cover re-entry hardware.
I'd assume somewhere around 20 tons fully re-usable.
Over all methalox would probably be a better setup for this kind of architecture, as kerolox is heavy for a second stage and with a common propellant you can keep the same cross feed capability.
But nevertheless seems like it could be done using a lot of falcon heavy hardware.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:41:49 UTC No. 15885289
>>15885235
Methane is a good sweet spot between kerosene and hydrogen, in terms of isp and density. Plus you get the commonality and less coking. Literally BUILT for reusability.
>40tons excess mass total (on top of the 20t core dry mass)
Shuttle/Buran was like 100 tons empty with all the wings and shit. And Starship is 80-100t and that's just a metal tube. It would be hard to get your upper stage mass low enough.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:49:01 UTC No. 15885305
>>15884991
nah it's time travel
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:52:25 UTC No. 15885309
>>15885196
>Don't forget that they also need shitloads of fuel
that's kind of the point
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:53:30 UTC No. 15885311
>>15885289
it's a big part of what makes spaceplanes heavier than regular rockets like starship. you're adding a ton of mass just be be able to handle all the aerodynamic regimes an aircraft needs to, which means not just the wings, the entire spacecraft has to be reinforced, anything thats not just a metal cylinder under pressure going directly up or down is going to be significantly heavier.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:56:48 UTC No. 15885316
>>15885289
If starship is 100-150 tons empty that would make it about 10% dry mass (funnily enough that's about the same as a normal Hydrolox stage like centaur or the Saturn 1B).
That would mean a 40-45 ton dry mass on a falcon 9 core stage, bear In mind though that higher prop density of kerosene and aluminium construction could make it a little bit lower.
The fineness of the falcon 9 stage would be a disadvantage Vs starship however as it helps to be blunt for Re-entry.
However the the long length could also allow a side mounted payloads.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:11:53 UTC No. 15885332
>>15885326
what would that acheive? spacex needs government permission, not government money.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:14:43 UTC No. 15885335
>>15885326
proof? where is chinas super heavy lift launch vehicle? im waiting.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:15:59 UTC No. 15885336
>>15885332
spacex does need government money. why do you think they cancelled red dragon when nasa pulled funding?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:18:47 UTC No. 15885342
>>15885336
because their customer pulled out? Spacex could rely on starlink and transporter missions for funding, if they needed to.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:23:23 UTC No. 15885351
>>15885225
Not anymore, it's gentle missionary sex, as God intended.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:23:28 UTC No. 15885352
>>15885326
Chinks cant even permantly man their own spacestation in orbit.
How are they going to have a moonbase in 7 years?
Are these people delusional?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:25:30 UTC No. 15885354
>>15885326
That's what happens when not even NASA cares about human spaceflight.
>>15885352
You're the one being delusional. China has already leapfrogged Russia, a country with decades of experience. If it wasn't for SpaceX, they would have surpassed NASA too.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:25:51 UTC No. 15885356
>>15885326
The chink boogeyman is good for SpaceX
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:29:08 UTC No. 15885360
>>15884197
>astronauts are chads who stay healthy into old age
shocking.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:32:21 UTC No. 15885365
>>15885342
so they need a paying customer to ever go to mars?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:33:23 UTC No. 15885366
>>15885354
Leapfrogged russia in what way?
By building a space station?
Russians did that the 80's.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:34:42 UTC No. 15885368
>>15883927
>NASA testing schizo meme technologies that break known laws of physics
where did it all go wrong?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:36:25 UTC No. 15885371
>>15884676
the only one of them that's gonna launch in 2025 is falcon 9
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:36:57 UTC No. 15885372
>>15884045
Starship would be better if it had 100 smaller engines.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:37:05 UTC No. 15885373
>>15885368
wtf has nasa got to do with it?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:40:15 UTC No. 15885374
>>15885366
more like russia tripping over itself and falling down
they can't make space hardware without holes drilled by drunkards, and engines that THROOST when they shouldn't
they still have yet to come to terms with the fact that they are no longer an empire
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:40:21 UTC No. 15885375
>>15884242
he WILL retire on Mars
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:41:10 UTC No. 15885376
>>15885372
Yes.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:42:11 UTC No. 15885379
>>15885365
>Company needs paying customer to do thing
No way, shocking turn of events
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:42:22 UTC No. 15885380
>>15885336
Because of politics and JPL
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:42:47 UTC No. 15885381
>>15884242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l7
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:44:20 UTC No. 15885383
>>15884281
We are making clones of Elon as we speak
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:44:21 UTC No. 15885384
>>15885379
I AGREE. so SpaceX needs government money.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:44:58 UTC No. 15885385
>>15885379
They dont, it will make it politically easier to give credit to NASA though and some extra mo ey and expertise wont hurt
But they dont strictly need it
Starlink is about to become a cash cow
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:45:37 UTC No. 15885386
>>15884284
>The thrust from the hot staging pushed the booster back. Since that thrust was the only thing keeping the propellant pinned at the bottom of the tanks, it started moving forward.
>Booster exploded because rocket scientists forgot to take Newton's 3rd law into account
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:47:08 UTC No. 15885388
>>15885384
Yeah, tranny shit and Raytheon funds should be reallocated
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:47:39 UTC No. 15885390
>>15885386
its embarassing.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:49:48 UTC No. 15885393
>>15884462
>Jesus Christ ascends to heaven, year 33 AD (Colorized)
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:50:47 UTC No. 15885395
>>15885390
List of boosters landed by anyone else
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Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:50:49 UTC No. 15885396
>>15884476
NASA is already out of funds, such a program would require the cancelation of MSR
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:50:58 UTC No. 15885397
>>15885390
not easy status: it is
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:53:22 UTC No. 15885399
>>15885366
USSR space program >>> Modern Russian space program.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:54:00 UTC No. 15885400
blue origin? more like purple beginning.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:55:38 UTC No. 15885403
>>15885386
Sounds like this could be fixed by making sure that the booster keeps its upward momentum during staging. Don't know how difficult that is, though.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:56:15 UTC No. 15885405
>>15885059
aluminum is an inferior metal. Just a few days ago I was cutting aluminium with a steel saw like it's fucking butter!!!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:58:24 UTC No. 15885408
>>15885326
I hope this triggers another space race to build a lunar base
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 14:00:37 UTC No. 15885413
>>15885403
Actually the solution could be quite simple, don't turn off so many engines next time they hot stage.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 14:00:52 UTC No. 15885414
>>15884893
Nice dress, she cute
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 14:20:58 UTC No. 15885440
>>15885386
>>15885403
>>15885413
If you have too much thrust the ship doesn't get off or recontacts destroying both.
They were likely being conservative so that at least they can keep the ship.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 14:24:21 UTC No. 15885445
>>15885440
You're hilarious coming up with this weapons grade copium. keep going!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 14:38:22 UTC No. 15885468
>>15884122
>>15884137
>>15884208
Finally good discussion in /sfg/
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 14:39:25 UTC No. 15885470
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:15:50 UTC No. 15885536
>>15885528
maybe i'm a psychopath, but i think it would be cool to use this for executions.
just have the entire engine bay horizontal on a gimbal and just have people line up in front of it, make it sweep left to right and poof, criminals gone.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:20:39 UTC No. 15885544
>>15885372
Raptor's at an optimal size for power to weight ratios and there's not a lot of area to recover that isn't already going towards nozzles unless you make the engines gratuitously, excessively small, and that'd severely compromise thrust.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:25:21 UTC No. 15885552
>>15885544
i'd say power to weight is less important than power to volume desu.
raptors are super compact for the thrust they put out.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:28:31 UTC No. 15885559
>>15885552
are you drunk?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:31:54 UTC No. 15885569
I wonder if SpaceX is not releasing footage on board due to not wanting to give ammunition to people trying to stop them (like people filing lawsuits, lobbiers from other companies trying to slow them down, oldspace, musk haters etc)?
and then after Starship is flying pretty regularly and not having many failures, they can release most of it
they are much more open than spaceflight companies in general which is good for the fans but also gives more info to anti-spacex or anti-space whatever people which might result in slow downs
for instance, didn't SpaceX originally want to do a powerplant on site, get a pipe directly from brownsville for natural gas for the powerplant + a propellant plant cleaning this natural gas for purer methane + even doing their own liquid oxygen, nitrogen, co2 whatever on site
but they cut those because it would have increased the enviromental assessment and that was probably partly due to ESG hound and others whining about it so much
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:33:35 UTC No. 15885571
>>15885559
if raptors were the same weight, but BE4 sized, how would you fit them under the current diameter? you would have to make some wider base just for them or more likely make the stack much fatter
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:34:05 UTC No. 15885574
>>15885569
Now I'm wondering, did it even have onboard cameras?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:34:18 UTC No. 15885576
>>15885559
what i'm saying is the weight is less important than the amount of space the engines take up on the bottom of the booster. more space per engine means less engines.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:35:01 UTC No. 15885577
>>15885574
IFT 1 had them, it would be incredibly weird for them not to have it considering the way they are testing it.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:41:25 UTC No. 15885589
>>15885352
>Are these people delusional?
nope they are just doomposting to gauge more resources and permissions from the rattled politicians and bureaucrats that have, at best, superficial understanding of realistic capacities
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:41:43 UTC No. 15885592
>>15885571
starship would be better if it were wider. its only so thin as a residual trait from the massive downgrade from ITS to starship 1.0 back when they were using carbon fiber.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:43:23 UTC No. 15885594
>>15885326
implessive...
>>15885366
>Leapfrogged russia in what way?
by having consistent access to space even if its just ancient sojuz knock offs
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:43:40 UTC No. 15885595
>>15885571
To make an informative reference point, this is seven Raptor nozzles overlayed on the nozzle of a Space Shuttle SRB.
A five segment SRB produces ~16 MN
Seven Raptor 2s produce ~15.8 MN
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:43:58 UTC No. 15885597
>>15885592
maybe, but then you have even more space for engines
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:46:08 UTC No. 15885602
>>15885592
An increase in nozzle diameter that does not yield a comparable, offsetting increase in thrust will ultimately require a shorter booster.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:56:41 UTC No. 15885613
>>15885602
a wider and shorter starship would be superior to a narrow falcon shape starship
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:59:30 UTC No. 15885616
>>15885613
Unless that comes with a longer payload bay, not in any way that matters.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:09:30 UTC No. 15885626
Kourou worker says they’re aiming for Ariane 6 1st launch in late April then first operational launch in November
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:14:17 UTC No. 15885630
>>15885616
wider vehicle means lower bending moments which means thinner tank walls, and wider vehicle means slower terminal velocity which means less fuel used for landing.
falcon had to remain thin to traverse US highways. Starship with return to launch site should be as fat as possible.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:16:30 UTC No. 15885634
>>15885630
The bending moments probably don't matter in this context, since the vehicle's structural integrity in flight is meant to come from internal tank pressure (~5 bar, iirc). The throw weight of the system is already excessive for anything but fluid payloads as it is.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:20:02 UTC No. 15885639
>>15885634
but fluid payload is critical component of the whole system
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:21:42 UTC No. 15885643
>>15885639
Any increase in capacity needs to eliminate flights from primary mission configurations to be worth it.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:25:21 UTC No. 15885649
>>15885643
probably not difficult considering hls will take between 14 to 20 flights, and thee is the added bonus of greater landing tolerances if the vehicle is fat
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:28:09 UTC No. 15885656
can hls actually hover under lunar gravity?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:33:10 UTC No. 15885668
>>15885649
If it takes 14 to 20 flights, subtracting one for the ship itself, the actual capacity is only 63 to 92 tons, unless they're losing truly incredible amounts to boiloff.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:42:49 UTC No. 15885691
>>15885668
NASA present numbers indicate 14 flights, and those are based on optimistic numbers provided by SpaceX (different from the aspirational pr numbers on their website).
Elon openly says that starship dry mass is way above where they would like, and I very much doubt payload to a useful orbit is more than 90 tonnes
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:45:26 UTC No. 15885700
>>15885691
>Elon openly says that starship dry mass is way above where they would like, and I very much doubt payload to a useful orbit is more than 90 tonnes
That puts the ship at no less than 60 tons overweight. Maybe 50 tons if there's significant mass reduction opportunities in the booster.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:45:51 UTC No. 15885702
>>15884610
>he's here
Elon if you're here use the word "legend" in a tweet or something
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:46:13 UTC No. 15885704
>>15885691
>>15885668
im not a doomer on starship tough, the booster is satisfactory if ift2 performance is to be expected, and maybe ship v2 has significant improvements
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:47:52 UTC No. 15885707
>>15885700
engine performance is probably not what is advertised which contributes to the sub nominal mass to orbit
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:51:08 UTC No. 15885715
>>15884866
4 of the engines failed to reignite, all on the same side. very likely too many to reliably maintain attitude control, once the ship detected that it trooned itself
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:52:17 UTC No. 15885720
>>15885715
You didn't watch the launch.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:53:27 UTC No. 15885722
Is it me or does it feel like old space is hoping for SpaceX to self destruct so they can go back to build rockets like they've have been doing so? I'm asking because I see oldspace willing to pivot to reuseable rockets.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:55:58 UTC No. 15885723
>>15885722
*UNWILLING
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:56:26 UTC No. 15885724
>>15885722
Oldspace has a genius strategy.
>Invest no money in any innovation
>Grift eternally
>SpaceX monopolizes all western launches
>Govt, gives you 30 billion gibs contract to make a starship knock off
Its that easy.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:56:39 UTC No. 15885726
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:59:48 UTC No. 15885727
>>15885722
unable, not unwilling
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:02:30 UTC No. 15885729
>>15885720
>>15885726
I watched the launch, it happened quick. After they go out of view, more engines go offline, one central and 3 more inner ring before they all shut down and the booster terminated
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:05:15 UTC No. 15885737
>>15885724
There's just not good justification for this mess.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:06:08 UTC No. 15885739
>>15885723
>carpet
Regolith collector, but comfy. Bring a vacuum.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:07:21 UTC No. 15885744
>>15885737
what is that?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:09:19 UTC No. 15885751
>>15885729
The problem wasn't a failure of ignition though, save for the one. The rest is probably a propellant slosh induced failure from the large transient loads caused by the rapid flip maneuver.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:11:01 UTC No. 15885755
>>15885751
hi scott manley. advertise somewhere else.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:14:31 UTC No. 15885765
>>15885755
Not Scott. The cascading engine failures fits unless you're one of those oldspace weirdos who is absolutely desperately clinging to the Raptor Failure hypothesis.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:15:48 UTC No. 15885770
>>15885179
But they won't probably be allowed to launch towards the NE from Boca Chica, there are lots of highly populated areas in that direction.
So in practice once per 24h.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:16:11 UTC No. 15885771
So for the SABRE engine they were supposedly planning on injecting just plain air into the combustion chamber, what kind of effects would this have on chamber pressure? and would there have been a lot of undesirable nitrogen products from all of the N2 inside the combustion chamber?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:16:20 UTC No. 15885772
>>15885755
Scott doesn't post on chans. He is an SA og.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:17:28 UTC No. 15885774
>>15885751
I'd argue it's a failure to stabilize after attempted ignition
either way the problem was too many engines failing
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:19:37 UTC No. 15885779
>>15885774
Engines seemed fine, It's the plumbing that's at fault.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:20:42 UTC No. 15885782
>>15885774
did the engines fail or did the plumbing and whatever fail
I would argue its not a problem with the engine if not enough propellant is provided with the right pressure but with the system upstream
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:21:52 UTC No. 15885785
>>15885744
SLS pipping.
>>15885739
I'm saying forget these fancy 3d printed structures or tin cans on the surface of mars, they should bring micro reactors and build underground living space.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:22:10 UTC No. 15885786
>>15885779
>>15885782
engines failed, cope and seethe. 100% engine failure rate so far ha
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:23:17 UTC No. 15885787
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:24:16 UTC No. 15885791
>>15885774
The engines are burning steadily within two seconds of ignition. This absolutely is not a failure in lighting them.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:26:34 UTC No. 15885795
>>15884419
This nigga is wearing earrings, lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:28:29 UTC No. 15885798
>>15885795
He reminds me of a Russian meme which shall not be posted.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:32:25 UTC No. 15885807
>>15885798
You mean the liberator?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:33:36 UTC No. 15885811
>>15885772
I wonder if he still has an account there.
I'd bet not, he seems more sensible than that.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:34:09 UTC No. 15885813
>>15885787
Hit an aquifer, dig a canal and link cities together by unnaground rivers. Stock 'em with fish and other foodstock.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:36:46 UTC No. 15885814
>>15885787
>>15885813
The martian geofront will be sublime. Experiencing underground rivers in complete darkness is an almost spiritual experience.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:36:51 UTC No. 15885815
>>15885813
undeground lakes would be pretty cool
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:39:27 UTC No. 15885819
>>15885813
>>15885815
It could be like a Venice but underground.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:45:01 UTC No. 15885828
>>15885813
>>15885819
yes, and the underground rivers will be called 'the martian canals'.
oh wait
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:48:15 UTC No. 15885834
>>15885819
That dome is entirely too flat for the tension load the gas pressure would impose.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:51:25 UTC No. 15885837
>>15885811
It's illectro, he posts from time to time. There are some subforums that aren't yet beyond redemption. Otherwise it's run over by SJWs and full bright red commies.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:53:00 UTC No. 15885840
>>15885795
i think he fucks men....
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:55:13 UTC No. 15885843
>>15885782
given the perfect performance of all 33 engines up to stage separation, I'd argue it's propellant wiggling around fucking things up. 3 raptors at minimum thrust (40%) pushing up with 3 sea level and 3 vacuum raptors at full thrust pushing down is a losing battle in my book. It seems like even 3 raptors staying at full power wouldn't cut it
>>15885791
potato potato, we're speculating anyways. I'm not saying lighting them failed, i'm saying the process of ignition failed. If you light it and it sputters and dies that's a failure, no?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:57:21 UTC No. 15885846
>>15885837
Is he paying to post there? If I remember right you have to pay for the """privilege""" of posting on SA now.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:57:29 UTC No. 15885847
>>15884492
Well? What was it? How were they planning on dealing with just sinking into the Moon?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:59:40 UTC No. 15885854
>>15885847
it would probably have just been hitting the abort button
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:07:34 UTC No. 15885869
>>15885772
Scott showed up in the live chat of the Astronomy Live presentation seconds after I posted the link in /sfg/. He is a lurker.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:08:59 UTC No. 15885871
>>15885843
>I'm not saying lighting them failed, i'm saying the process of ignition failed.
You'd still be wrong. The engines failed to stay lit, but that is not proximal to an ignition failure.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:09:44 UTC No. 15885873
>>15885828
real martian canals this time
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:09:54 UTC No. 15885875
>>15885785
extremely based image
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:10:11 UTC No. 15885877
i have to pee
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:11:10 UTC No. 15885879
>>15885877
Don't pee in the canal, we all have to drink that
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:11:13 UTC No. 15885880
>>15885877
contribute to the pisslock.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:12:30 UTC No. 15885882
>>15885819
why did the dome meme take off? it was never a viable solution unless you're already on on a planet with a dense atmosphere and magnetosphere.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:12:37 UTC No. 15885884
>>15885814
>Martian Geofront
The First Wonder of the New World
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:15:18 UTC No. 15885890
Asuka
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:15:22 UTC No. 15885891
now that thunderf00t is an ally, what rank will he be given in the martian military?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:20:38 UTC No. 15885901
>>15885891
compost
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:22:45 UTC No. 15885903
>>15885882
No one wants to live under the ground
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:24:17 UTC No. 15885907
the cave provides
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:25:39 UTC No. 15885912
>>15885900
This image makes my penis feel small
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:27:03 UTC No. 15885913
>>15885907
anon knows
the crust provides
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:27:55 UTC No. 15885914
>western bloc
usa, france, japan, south korea, israel
>eastern bloc
russia, china, iran, north korea
eastern bloc is holding us back
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:29:03 UTC No. 15885915
>>15885914
countries that can launch payloads into orbit*
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:29:55 UTC No. 15885916
>>15885913
looking at this chart I think we need a 30 km deep hole for 20 Degress C. Although this doesn't really matter, heat flow in the underground is so slow you could build the tunnels at any depth and they would lose very little heat.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:35:43 UTC No. 15885926
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/s
>As I noted in my recent ASPI report, Australia’s north and space, the launch sites at Nhulunbuy in the Northern Territory and Bowen in Queensland, and the proposed launch site at Weipa in northern Queensland, are well placed to take advantage of the earth’s rotational energy to achieve orbit at a lower cost. In addition, the southern launch sites at Whaler’s Way in South Australia, and another proposed for Albany in Western Australia, are ideal for launching payloads into polar and sun-synchronous orbits, given the southern orientation and proximity to open ocean.
>The potential therefore needs to be considered that the US–Australia agreement on launches and returns could open up the possibility of exploiting the SpaceX Starship’s capabilities, including its proposed point-to-point capacity for rapid ‘rocket logistics’, including for defence and national security missions.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:35:54 UTC No. 15885927
>>15885925
*next year
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:36:43 UTC No. 15885928
>>15885927
yeah right
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:39:59 UTC No. 15885934
>>15885925
>italian rocketry
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:41:00 UTC No. 15885937
>The main sections of the first module are being welded together in Italy right now “and we expect delivery early next year” to Houston, leading to launch in 2025. The second module will launch in 2026 and those two together can accommodate up to eight crew members.
https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/
14+ people on the iss permanently
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:42:07 UTC No. 15885939
>>15885903
I would like to live under the ground, but the government won't let me just dig holes
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:43:19 UTC No. 15885942
>>15885925
>isogrid
finita est
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:43:42 UTC No. 15885945
>>15885926
a starship factory there too, or multiple
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:44:44 UTC No. 15885948
>>15885942
They really cant imagine it any other way
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:44:51 UTC No. 15885949
>>15885916
that chart might be out of date, I'm not sure, since I think they discovered recently that Mars has a thicker crust than was expected.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:45:28 UTC No. 15885951
>>15885942
Isowaffle mass autism makes perfect sense when it's going to use electric propulsion.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:46:09 UTC No. 15885953
>>15885939
your basement bedroom?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:47:07 UTC No. 15885954
>>15885953
I wish I had a basement, I'd never stop digging.
There are secrets under the ground.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:47:39 UTC No. 15885956
>>15885939
How would they even be able to tell if you illegally dug holes?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:47:39 UTC No. 15885957
>>15885926
Australia seems eager to exploit point to point Starship. Would be a nice spot for a Starbase
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:49:00 UTC No. 15885961
>>15885954
>There are secrets under the ground.
such as?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:49:29 UTC No. 15885963
>>15885961
you must be joking, anon
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:49:35 UTC No. 15885964
>>15885903
They'll prefer my picture over being crammed into sardines on the surface.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:51:41 UTC No. 15885968
>>15885964
I mean in the 1980s/1990s they were talking about underground habitats.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:53:59 UTC No. 15885972
>>15885961
They're secret.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:54:24 UTC No. 15885975
>>15885939
unfortunately, to actually live underground and not just shelter there, you need some way to be able to gather food and water down there. That's a hard problem.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:56:12 UTC No. 15885981
>>15885975
I don't think there's much more food and water on the surface on Mars either :/
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:56:26 UTC No. 15885983
>>15885961
the hall of the muskrat king
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:57:17 UTC No. 15885984
>>15885975
Water shouldn't be a problem, and food cultivation can be done in wide underground spaces with sunlamps. You still have to supplement that diet with some protein though, I wonder if you could get a bunch of chickens to accept living in a big artificial yard underground? Turn on/off the light to simulate a day/night cycle, feed them with grain you grow in your food plots.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:57:42 UTC No. 15885985
>>15885975
an impossible problem
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:57:59 UTC No. 15885987
>>15885975
food will be grown on the surface, water storage will be on the surface too
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:59:58 UTC No. 15885990
>>15885984
That's probably better than some factory farms here on Earth.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:59:58 UTC No. 15885991
Those of you who propose underground habitats on Mars: How do you heat them? You will have immense heating costs because the soil and thin atmosphere will act as massive heat sinks
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:00:45 UTC No. 15885993
>>15885983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDs
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:01:03 UTC No. 15885995
>>15885991
i will snugle up to the cutie mars girlies
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:02:11 UTC No. 15885996
>>15885991
see >>15885913
The planet itself generates heat, and the regolith around you is a great insulator.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:02:28 UTC No. 15885997
>>15885991
with heaters
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:02:29 UTC No. 15885998
>>15885995
they will be lanky and pale.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:03:21 UTC No. 15885999
>>15885991
ISS doesnt have a problem with heat
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:03:45 UTC No. 15886001
>>15885998
stop,i can only get so erect
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:04:19 UTC No. 15886003
>>15885998
if pale girls are the future of off world civilization I'm all for it
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:04:24 UTC No. 15886004
>>15885999
In case you didnt notice, ISS is in SPACE which is a very different environment from ON A PLANET WITH AN ATMOSPHERE
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:05:15 UTC No. 15886007
>>15885991
retarded.
do you think mars has no mantle? no core?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:05:55 UTC No. 15886008
>>15885991
Heat flux through the underground is low. You would actually lose very little heat to the rock. Even on Earth the temperature 2 meters below the ground is constant. 6 months of winter or summer isn't long enough to change it sufficiently
>>15885916
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:06:04 UTC No. 15886009
>>15886003
of course they'll be pale, there's no sunlight
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:06:55 UTC No. 15886010
>>15886008
Also I actually think they might have a problem with heat rejection lol.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:08:04 UTC No. 15886015
>>15885993
the emperor would have loved to hear this performance
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:08:34 UTC No. 15886017
>>15885991
Cuddling with Persaverance's rtg.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:09:04 UTC No. 15886018
>>15885998
pale, yes
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:09:47 UTC No. 15886020
>>15886017
Anon NOOOO
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:10:14 UTC No. 15886021
>>15885925
Fucking pastaniggers and frogs eating up most of ESA's budget and making shit one time use rockets.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:11:22 UTC No. 15886023
>>15886017
warm & spicy
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:11:38 UTC No. 15886024
>>15886021
thats the axiom module
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:13:07 UTC No. 15886027
>>15886024
I still stand by my statement.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:13:19 UTC No. 15886028
>incredibly obvious that boostback relight failed because of propellant slosh/fluid hammer
>retards STILL peddling the narrative that it's raptor reliability
these guys are paid to do this.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:16:02 UTC No. 15886034
>>15886028
When raptors fail on assent during OFT-3, will you apologize?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:17:18 UTC No. 15886035
>>15886028
Lol, spaceX&musk are retarded, this solution has been around for over a hundred years now.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:17:41 UTC No. 15886036
>>15886034
i will forgive you for your sins, until then you're a retarded nigger.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:17:50 UTC No. 15886037
how do astronaut have happy thanksgiving in space? :)
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:18:42 UTC No. 15886039
>>15886035
try doing that with cryogenic vessel that also needs to stay light.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:18:59 UTC No. 15886040
>>15886034
IT WILL GO BOOM ON THE PAD.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:19:18 UTC No. 15886041
>>15886035
spacex is smart
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:19:24 UTC No. 15886042
>>15886037
They put a russian in feather suit and eat potato mash from a tube.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:20:31 UTC No. 15886043
>>15884864
congratulations
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:20:38 UTC No. 15886044
>>15886040
It would be a big surprise if the OLM actually survived the last flight by a fluke, and the next launch completely destroys it all over again
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:22:31 UTC No. 15886048
>>15886044
add this to the common sense skeptic christmas wishlist
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:23:20 UTC No. 15886049
>>15886009
We have the technology
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:23:55 UTC No. 15886052
>>15885141
Bad example! Biden is a literal meat puppet with bits of his brain scooped out.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:24:37 UTC No. 15886054
>>15886049
yeah but they'll probably just get vitamin d in all of their food
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:25:01 UTC No. 15886055
>>15886042
Isnt that a bit demeaning?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:26:28 UTC No. 15886057
>>15886054
I can provide some vitamin D if you catch my drift
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:27:15 UTC No. 15886058
>>15885536
Just imagine how many journalists it could process per hour
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:27:44 UTC No. 15886060
>>15886054
That's good too, I just want to solve the aesthetic problem anon posited. I wonder if those UV lamps could be installed in ceilings to emulate the sun enough and prohibit colonists turning pale, or if they'd just need regular trips to tanning beds. That option would be time-consuming and should be avoided if possible.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:28:30 UTC No. 15886061
>>15885613
>coke can penis Starship
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:28:37 UTC No. 15886062
>>15886060
>pure lily white skin
>aesthetic problem
delusional
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:31:00 UTC No. 15886066
>>15886055
No, they pay him with vodka, and it keeps them from drilling holes in the soyuz.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:36:09 UTC No. 15886077
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:37:11 UTC No. 15886078
>>15885954
Based diggeranon. Never stop digging!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:37:20 UTC No. 15886079
>>15886062
not putting sunlamps everywhere to turn humans "naturally brown" will be seen as racist
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:42:46 UTC No. 15886085
Who started this stupid rumour that Super Heavy flipped too hard because of Starship's engines?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:43:59 UTC No. 15886087
>>15886085
>D-don't believe your lying eyes!
I'm good, thanks
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:48:38 UTC No. 15886099
>>15886058
an evolution of that would be to angle it 45 degrees upwards and act as an IRL kerbal launcher. just build a platform right above it and have people jump into the exhaust.
measure how far the furthest piece of each corpse lands and turn it into a game.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:50:54 UTC No. 15886102
>>15885900
I hope for tanker launches, SpaceX will stage the Super Heavy much higher in atmosphere so that the total number of tanker launches can be reduced.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:52:15 UTC No. 15886110
>>15885926
The only way this actually happens is if FWS/FAA agree that SpaceX should get the same set of licenses and launch flexibility. Which I see as not happening.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:59:34 UTC No. 15886120
>>15885336
They didn't pull out because the money stopped, they pulled out because they were threatened with bureaucratic sanctions
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:04:44 UTC No. 15886129
>>15885900
3 extra engines is 800 tons of thrust so you're not very far off
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:07:58 UTC No. 15886132
>>15886120
someone have that y combinator thread?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:15:55 UTC No. 15886139
>>15885108
>>15885059
reveal the source of your information
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:19:23 UTC No. 15886143
>>15886058
i decided to bring my concept >>15886099 to life
Behold: THE JOURNALIST EXTERMINATOR.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:20:15 UTC No. 15886144
>>15886143
based
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:37:17 UTC No. 15886172
>>15886143
you're awful
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:40:13 UTC No. 15886176
>>15885991
>thin atmosphere will act as massive heat sinks
thin atmosphere means it'll loose less heat, not more
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:43:21 UTC No. 15886180
>>15885770
two launch sites, one in Florida and one in Texas
the Florida launch site has pretty good range north and south for launch inclination
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:43:25 UTC No. 15886181
>>15885966
I hope China actually do this and we get a second space race (without a finish line this time)
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:47:51 UTC No. 15886187
>>15885846
you've always had to pay to post on SA
you used to be required to pay to read too, and they take any excuse to ban you so you need to pay again
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:51:42 UTC No. 15886193
>>15885991
If it's a big problem just use insulation.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:55:57 UTC No. 15886197
>>15886035
>retard chambers
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:01:19 UTC No. 15886214
>>15886143
it would be lethal to stand that close to a rocket exhaust, the noise would kill you
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:03:53 UTC No. 15886224
>>15886214
we'll just make the tower higher then.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:06:56 UTC No. 15886233
>>15886214
Based on what? No one's ever died from that
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:09:45 UTC No. 15886246
>>15886214
just light the engines as they're jumping
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:14:49 UTC No. 15886263
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:16:36 UTC No. 15886269
>>15886263
this anime was really really really bad
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:17:14 UTC No. 15886271
>>15886257
>>15886257
>>15886257
>>15886261
Staging.
>>15886263
DAMNIT ANON I JUST GOT MINE UP, MINE WAS POSTED EARLIER
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:18:05 UTC No. 15886272
>>15886269
Compared to what? I love it! She is cute
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:18:18 UTC No. 15886273
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:18:35 UTC No. 15886274
>>15886271
sorry anon, this looked really fun. Post it again next time.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:19:12 UTC No. 15886277
>>15886272
>cute girls means anime is good
anon there are a million cute anime girls every season, you need to look deeper than that or you could just watch literally any trash and be happy
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:21:41 UTC No. 15886287
>>15886274
fuck it, we'll see whichever one the janny picks to delete. if mine gets deleted i'll post it again next time i get a chance.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:22:29 UTC No. 15886289
>>15886277
i generally avoid anime so i dont have to worry about that too much. cute space vampire girls are really great though
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:23:38 UTC No. 15886293
>>15886287
they probably won't delete anything, as long as we don't bump both we'll be fine and avoid the wrath of god
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:28:44 UTC No. 15886309
>>15886293
you know inevitably some shithead is gonna keep bumping my thread now.
i'll probably have to make it again next time around.