🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:13:15 UTC No. 15886257
Rocket Execution Edition
previous: >>15883875
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:13:53 UTC No. 15886261
>>15886257
Everyone post your own original rocket-based death contraptions!
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:19:10 UTC No. 15886276
TOO LATE NIGGA
HAHAHAHHAAHHA
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:20:38 UTC No. 15886282
>>15886257
VS
>>15886260
BITCH I POSTED THE THREAD FIRST
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:23:51 UTC No. 15886295
>>15886282
janny
you know what to do
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:24:39 UTC No. 15886297
don't bump this thread or the wrath of god will fall upon us
just let it die
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:26:12 UTC No. 15886305
>>15886295
owari da
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:26:53 UTC No. 15886307
whya re there too threds up?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:34:13 UTC No. 15886324
>>15886307
me and someone else both staged at almost exactly the same time, just don't bump this thread
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:36:47 UTC No. 15886330
>>15886324
put "sage" in the options field, it lets you post without bumping
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:42:21 UTC No. 15886341
THIS IS SO WEIRD AND CONFUSING.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:58:33 UTC No. 15886388
>>15886330
don't tell me how to sage dummy, i did it in the post you replied to
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:59:32 UTC No. 15886394
>>15886388
was it for you or for the other mouthbreathers still using this thread
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:01:03 UTC No. 15886401
>>15886389
8/10
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:02:07 UTC No. 15886403
>>15886394
well he replied to me so i thought he was trying to tell me, even though the post i had made that he replied to was already saged.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:04:12 UTC No. 15886411
>>15886403
since when did they allow it to work on image posts btw, I don't think it did back uh pre 2010 or whatever
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:09:26 UTC No. 15886432
stop bumping this thread.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:10:47 UTC No. 15886440
>>15886411
idk honestly
also DAMNIT CIRNO FUMO STOP MAKING ME BREATHE MANUALLY
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:11:33 UTC No. 15886442
>>15886432
you were the first post to bump the thread in like half an hour dude, everybody else has been using sage
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:24:19 UTC No. 15886470
>>15886442
youre bullshitting. dont. test. me.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:30:05 UTC No. 15886484
>>15886470
oh my god,
see i fucking told you some retard like this was gonna show up and do this
sage goes in all fields at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:35:36 UTC No. 15886505
>>15886388
sage goes in all fields
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:38:03 UTC No. 15886511
>>15886484
>>15886505
if you just don't respond to him he will be unable to post organically and resort to spam, which is reportable
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:44:59 UTC No. 15886523
>>15886389
I think my art is improving
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 22:47:30 UTC No. 15886531
>>15886523
its not too bad, did you draw the crawler?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 23:01:22 UTC No. 15886566
>>15886531
your post inspired me
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 23:19:44 UTC No. 15886609
>>15886566
this one was slightly disappointing but I think I managed to communicate my artistic vision.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 23:32:58 UTC No. 15886629
>>15886609
so does he have a rope attached to his neck, which is attached to the space shuttle?
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 23:33:49 UTC No. 15886630
>>15886629
yes, that's the idea.
I wanted it to be attached to his foot, but it just wasn't working out.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 23:34:42 UTC No. 15886632
>>15886630
it's good anon, people get the idea i think
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 25 Nov 2023 23:36:55 UTC No. 15886637
>>15886632
thank you, I'm already working on the next one.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 00:50:50 UTC No. 15886815
>>15886630
wont he die though?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 01:15:41 UTC No. 15886849
>>15886815
hes thunderf00t
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 01:41:38 UTC No. 15886908
>>15886849
carry on
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 01:57:15 UTC No. 15886940
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 09:34:25 UTC No. 15887494
>>15886928
>>15886940
Above ground structures need less initial work. Even then, a lot of theoretical mars habitats use regolith for rad shielding, which makes them already kind of underground. Nice pictures, btw.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 10:03:45 UTC No. 15887521
/sfg/ should have underground threads like this one. It's actually more comfortable here than on the other thread.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 11:45:40 UTC No. 15887671
>>15887521
this is why I didn't want to make a general back in 2018, I knew it was a mistake
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 19:47:13 UTC No. 15888387
>>15886523
Could the crawler go faster if it were nuclear powered
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:20:59 UTC No. 15888477
>>15888387
yes? probably. I think keeping it quite slow is a good idea, but not as slow as it is. In any case, the main problem with the crawler is the grift and pork that's tacked onto it (eg. alabama river rocks), which has the side effect of making it barely functional. I think I remember reading about this thing constantly breaking down.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:21:24 UTC No. 15888480
>>15886609
You can just put him in the shuttle if you him to die you know?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:26:57 UTC No. 15888504
>>15886257
Actual previous thread
>>15886260
>>15886260
>>15886260
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:29:10 UTC No. 15888511
>>15888434
That's just a normal american, anon. Apparently he got punched in the stomach by a bully and now uses a wheelchair, he's so inspiring and brave!
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:29:24 UTC No. 15888513
>>15888504
certainly a weird way to stage innit? have people posted two new threads at nearly the same time before?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:30:31 UTC No. 15888519
>>15888513
yes, not that rare but it makes continuity a bit worse
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:30:41 UTC No. 15888520
>>15888513
IDK, but stages have been reused before.
I remember it being a bit unpopular.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:31:14 UTC No. 15888521
SpaceX normalized reusing stages.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:32:57 UTC No. 15888530
What martians serve durina First Landing day feast?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:33:02 UTC No. 15888531
>>15888521
world's first re-usable thread
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:35:21 UTC No. 15888538
>>15888530
caviar? I mean, if they have a lot of fish farms they might be able to make it work.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:36:15 UTC No. 15888540
>>15888452
This amuses me about China and Russia. They look at the USA and SpaceX and Starlink and say to their people "I WANT THAT, I WANT A MEGACONSTELLATION" when they fundamentally can't afford to with their choice of economic and political circumstance. It's like that scene in iron man where Obadiah yells at the gay scientist. ELON MUSK WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN REDMOND WASHINGTON, WITH A BUNCH OF LIBTARDS
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:40:15 UTC No. 15888550
>>15888540
it's funny because megaconstellations like these only fundamentally make sense when you actually have the launch price and cadence to make it viable. china might just make it if they were to use all their different rocket factories but nobody else has the potential ability to sling a similar sized network into orbit.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:42:53 UTC No. 15888555
>>15888540
it's true, real life is exactly the same as capeslop, and my hero, Elon Musk, is iron man
that of course makes tim dodd, the everyday aestronaut, spiderman
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:43:10 UTC No. 15888556
>>15888540
Yeah all the articles about "The future Chinese Century" and how Africa/India/South America will magically line go up and meet and eclipse neoliberal western economies because number on graph are delusional. Its a funny myth that got accidentally spread by stupid western economists who just applied a bunch of intangibles from their own societies to developing ones. If the west shits itself completely in decadent decline and dysfunction the developing world just stops developing. I think that enough smart people have worked at SpaceX, embraced its approach, that even if SpaceX explodes at some point eventually a new company would pick up the torch but obviously the fastest way would be their continued success.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:45:23 UTC No. 15888566
>>15888550
china is already launching satellites for their megaconstellations. its still early though. they launched 3 of them the other day.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:45:35 UTC No. 15888567
>>15888560
wish we had detailed stats on fairings. people track the boosters... haven't seen the same for them.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:46:05 UTC No. 15888568
>>15888550
It would cost China a fortune, but it wouldnt kill them. Something similar killed the Soviet Union, at least in part, so it is absurd for Russia to be pushing it. but they proclaim lots of delusional paper projects so meh
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:46:46 UTC No. 15888569
>>15888566
wow, 3!
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:47:18 UTC No. 15888573
>>15888555
This but unironically
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:47:19 UTC No. 15888574
>>15888569
so? spacex only launched a handful of starlinks early on.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:47:26 UTC No. 15888575
>>15888555
wasted digits
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:48:48 UTC No. 15888580
>>15888574
i'm sorry, im not tony stark
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:52:21 UTC No. 15888590
>>15888567
This way leads to the dark path of counting every fucking bolt
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:55:12 UTC No. 15888596
>>15888567
What the are you planning to do with that information? Feel happy about yourself? jerkoff
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:57:29 UTC No. 15888602
>>15888596
I just want to see how many times they've reused a fairing is all.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 20:59:03 UTC No. 15888608
>>15888602
you would already have this data in full if you were subscribed to L2.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:01:51 UTC No. 15888614
>>15888608
Hey what’s the continental US doing up there? Get back down silly!
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:03:16 UTC No. 15888618
>>15888608
what would happen if the continental US was put on the luanr surface for 30 minutes and then returned to earth?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:04:07 UTC No. 15888620
>>15888618
it would be extremely painful, for you, big guy
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:04:58 UTC No. 15888622
>>15888608
This
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:06:24 UTC No. 15888625
>>15888608
the south pole really can be divided up into large territories for many countries
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:07:35 UTC No. 15888629
>>15888625
not really, the area of interest is the size of rhode island
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:07:59 UTC No. 15888632
>>15888618
for 30 minutes definitely everyone would die, but I wonder what the max time would be to keep everyone alive... we could probably survive one minute
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:09:36 UTC No. 15888638
>>15888632
ok now do 30 seconds
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:09:39 UTC No. 15888639
>>15888625
not according to the artemis accords
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:11:17 UTC No. 15888641
>>15888625
If China infringes on our Lunar territory that is a declaration of war and nuclear weapons can and probably should be used on their Earth territory in retaliation
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:11:45 UTC No. 15888642
>>15888638
I think enough heat and atmosphere would stick around for <1 minute to keep most people alive. Although we'd probably shed enough atmosphere that it causes an insane pressure imbalance when we get back.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:13:32 UTC No. 15888645
>>15888530
Nothing but The Emperor's Finest.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:14:28 UTC No. 15888647
>>15888642
lets just assume the only difference is the pure vacuum and when we get back everything is normal again
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:16:11 UTC No. 15888650
>>15888648
That's not how rocket engines work and it pisses me off every time I see it.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:16:31 UTC No. 15888652
>>15888648
i think those chinkonauts would die from sandblasting before the guns
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:16:52 UTC No. 15888656
>>15888648
I regret watching that.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:19:10 UTC No. 15888663
>>15888650
the show is acurate, it was made by astonauts
https://youtube.com/shorts/KAgdYwM4
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:20:38 UTC No. 15888668
>>15888663
That one ex-spacex jew astronaut moonlighted as a technical advisor for parts of it, yes.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:27:52 UTC No. 15888685
>>15886261
Ok /sfg/ where's the OC?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:28:12 UTC No. 15888687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH9
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:30:43 UTC No. 15888692
>>15887494
This is why we need to fund the Martian Bulldozer (MBD): A heavy-duty automated tractor equipped with regolith plow and deployment hook. Dig trenches, flatten deployment areas, and start building infrastructure to support future missions.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:34:32 UTC No. 15888704
>>15888685
I posted my professional quality art here earlier.
>>15886609
>>15886566
>>15886523
>>15886389
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:40:00 UTC No. 15888718
>>15888692
Caterpillar and Volvo offer fully electric, remotely operated loaders and other construction equipment
Partial automation is probably not too difficult to work out.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:42:12 UTC No. 15888722
>>15888632
You'd lose pressure immediately and then the nitrogen in the blood gases out. I doubt 10 seconds are survivable.
Probably some people in deep bunkers or mines would make it. And scuba divers, since the water can buffer the pressure drop a bit.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:44:41 UTC No. 15888728
>>15888722
In Star Wars Episode 8, The Last Jedi, General Leia goes into space for a long time and survives
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:51:26 UTC No. 15888740
>>15888722
you wouldn't lose pressure "immediately". The moon still has gravity and the atmosphere wouldn't be stripped out entirely at once. It'd go fast, but humans can survive well below 1 bar.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:11:52 UTC No. 15888781
>>15888618
There would be much rejoicing.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:12:55 UTC No. 15888784
>>15888735
In 1966, von Braun dies instead of Korolev. What changes?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:26:35 UTC No. 15888816
>>15888784
USSR does a flyby of the moon around the same time as Apollo flybies, as a result Apollo is taken more seriously so they complete all the scheduled missions to rub Russias face in it.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:41:19 UTC No. 15888837
>>15888784
>>15888784
>Korolev.
I have no idea who that is, but I won't look it up.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:45:12 UTC No. 15888846
>>15888837
don’t bother, he isn’t important
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:52:34 UTC No. 15888851
Space race 2.0: why Europe is joining the new dash to the moon
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https://www.theguardian.com/science
>The European Space Agency’s plan to build a cargo vessel that can convert to a crew ship is one giant step in its ambitions to compete with rival lunar exploration programmes
> By the unanimous agreement of the 22 European countries that fund and govern Esa, which include the UK, the space agency would open a competition for industry to propose a cargo spacecraft to fly to and from the International Space Station (ISS) by 2028. But the gamechanger came in what Aschbacher said next: “We will also conceive it in a way that it is not a dead end, meaning that it’s open and can evolve in the future to become a crew vehicle if member states decide to do so.”
> The impetus for Esa to urgently chart its own direction towards a human transportation system came in February, when the agency published a report called Revolution Space: Europe’s Mission for Space Exploration. Authored by a 12-strong team of independent advisers, the document argues that space is undergoing a revolution comparable with the growth of the internet 20 years ago, and that, like the internet, this will affect all domains of life. In many ways, it already has.
> Interest in going to the moon is exploding around the world. Dr Nasr Al-Sahhaf experiences this on an almost daily basis. He chairs International Moon Day, which is observed every 20 July, after being sanctioned by the UN general assembly in December 2021. Sahhaf’s job is to interface with companies and governments across the world that have an interest in celebrating the future of lunar exploration.
> “I found that there is not only global interest in humanity’s going back to the moon, but also there is this clear zest to explore and settle the moon as if to make up for such a long absence since the Apollo missions,” says Sahhaf.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:54:58 UTC No. 15888857
>>15888851
> The downside of this global interest, Crawford worries, is that it could result in some kind of new space race and lunar landgrab unless some form of coordination and eventually governance is agreed upon for activities on the lunar surface. Yet there is a marked lack of legally enforceable agreements.
> Ultimately, whatever international organisation evolves to govern lunar activities, whoever gets there in the first tranche of countries will inevitably be the ones with the greatest say in outer space activities. And that means there is more on the table than just the moon. Many see the moon as a proving ground for the big prize: Mars.
> “I think it is essential for Europe that when humanity decides to go to Mars that Europe is part of that and we have a seat at the table,” says De Winne. “That will only happen if in Europe we have the necessary capabilities.”
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:57:06 UTC No. 15888860
>>15888857
How is that a downside? Competition breeds innovation.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:57:54 UTC No. 15888861
>>15888860
we shouldnt compete though because its bad.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:58:33 UTC No. 15888862
>>15888837
Here are some Marvel analogies for you, which might be more your speed
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 22:58:43 UTC No. 15888863
>>15888851
ESA would not be able to launch astronauts before 2030
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:12:05 UTC No. 15888884
>>15888866
its nover. they are never flying again. They lost their CO2 lisence
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:21:19 UTC No. 15888897
>>15888866
Never.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:24:38 UTC No. 15888904
>>15888740
The entire air column would expand and decompress immediately due to the lower gravity. You'd probably get something like 0.2bar after a few seconds. Humans could survive that for a bit if you lower the pressure slowly, but if it happens fast, you get decompression sickness, like scuba divers ascending too fast. The solubility of the gases in the blood changes and the dissolved nitrogen boils off and forms bubbles in the blood vessels.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:34:55 UTC No. 15888929
>>15888908
where's dragon XL too
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:35:26 UTC No. 15888932
>>15888740
Yes you'd lose t immediately, air pressure on Earth comes from the air's weight alone. It weighs less on the Moon, so it would instantly "jump" and expand until the pressure at the surface fell well below 1/6th of one bar.
However even if you only teleported America and everything in it, with no air brought along, 30 seconds in hard vacuum won't kill you. It'd just badly injure you.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:37:03 UTC No. 15888936
>>15888908
>>15888929
Easy to build, not worth focusing on
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:40:55 UTC No. 15888947
>>15888932
if everyone on the continent was injured badly simultaneously, a lot of people would there
there would be nobody to take care of you and assuming the medical staff was magically uninjured, there would not be enough people to take care of everyone
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:42:09 UTC No. 15888951
>>15888929
Gateway is still years away from launch so there's no need to hurry.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:44:10 UTC No. 15888955
>>15888929
Its kind of strange why they got a contract for dragonxl. whats it's purpose if Starship will be available? I guess it can be sent in one launch instead of 14?
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:50:29 UTC No. 15888965
>>15888929
probably cancelled
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:52:25 UTC No. 15888968
>>15888947
No shit. Didn't say otherwise.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:57:23 UTC No. 15888977
>>15888530
It'll be like Thanksgiving in the US, so focused around what the first colonists could grow most quickly before running out of canned Earth food. That probably means yeasts (beer?), mushrooms, fruit and vegetables that can grow well indoors, and freshwater catfish (tilapia and catfish have similar requirements but tilapia doesn't taste as good).
>>15888556
The myth spread because the economic extrapolation fed perfectly into Maoist theory about the inevitable rise of thirdies and so the shit-libs of the world doubled down on it for twenty years. China failing to complete the Belt and Road will be to Maoist theory what the fall of the Berlin Wall was to classical Marxism, a permanent discrediting. Then we just need to handle the watermelon-green and sexual-politics bullshit and Marx will finally be gone as a force in Western politics.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 23:59:42 UTC No. 15888979
>>15888955
IIRC they got the contract as a company, not for a specific vehicle, and so "Dragon XL" was more politically viable than "Starship resupply lolololol" before Starship had flown.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:04:01 UTC No. 15888989
>>15888977
>China failing to complete the Belt and Road
How did they fail?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:08:32 UTC No. 15888995
Ooh boy, Mars Sample Return drama is getting fuel on the fire. First, there was this interview
https://www.planetary.org/planetary
And now we have reaction reaction. Space policy nerds get your hockey sticks
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/
>As a dubious public service, I humbly offer my translation and light editorializing to help inform less catastrophic space geeks what is happening with MSR. The usual disclaimers apply! I no longer work at, and do not speak for, JPL. I represent only my own opinions. Previously, my opinions on this topic were so obscure, so controversial, and so retrograde that I could barely hint at them in public for fear that the message would be lost.
>But last week, a remarkable interview occurred on Planetary Radio between Casey Dreier – Planetary Science Space Policy director and Orlando Figueroa, the industry veteran who chaired the Mars Sample Return Independent Review Board. The transcript is apparently AI-generated and may have occasional errors. In this interview, the quiet part was said out loud to a surprising degree, creating space for useful commentary. In this post, I provide that commentary on the relevant parts of the interview below in italics.
Get in fags, we're trashing JPL.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:15:26 UTC No. 15889005
>>15888995
NASA is just reaping what they sow.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:16:57 UTC No. 15889009
>>15888995
Can I get a quick rundown? I don't have the patience to read either of those links.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:18:01 UTC No. 15889011
>>15888995
>In particular, we have always known that MSR was going to be extremely technically challenging, but for some unspecified reason a bunch of extra, optional complexity was added.
Why does this continually happen? No stupid schizo theories about congressmen having manipulation super powers
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:20:13 UTC No. 15889014
>>15889009
Those sample returns are never coming home. It's a dead end...and NASA is starting to realize that. Heads are gonna roll.
>I’ve seen many suggestions of privatizing [Mars Sample Return], putting it out to bid, or just dropping a $5b prize for anyone who can bring back the samples. I don’t think this can work. There are a handful of corporations in the US that could actually execute MSR: Lockheed, Boeing (maybe), JPL, and SpaceX. Lockheed and Boeing will not do anything fixed price, especially something so difficult with such an ornery customer for so little money. SpaceX doesn’t need the money anymore so they will take the money if it’s on their path already, but then the sample return lander will be a Starship – a one size fits all hammer that makes everything else look like a nail. Starship, incidentally, can ship a ~100T ERV in its cargo compartment, meaning it can bring back more than a tonne of rocks, which would be awesome! And JPL will say that they can do MSR for $5b but they won’t spend their own money on it in advance, and they don’t like to share with others.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:23:44 UTC No. 15889017
Would you be embarrassed if China recovered Martian samples before the United States?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:25:13 UTC No. 15889020
>>15889014
>SpaceX could do it
>but then the sample return lander will be a Starship – a one size fits all hammer that makes everything else look like a nail
Why is this said like it's a bad thing?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:25:29 UTC No. 15889021
Why is SpaceX dicking around with the construction works at LC-39A? Without a second launch site they won't be able to perform any Lunar mission in a reasonable timeline.
I'm reminding you that they can't launch more than 5 time a year from Starbase.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:27:01 UTC No. 15889025
>>15889021
Expect it to ramp up now that the water deluge plate is proven and they won't have to backtrack on it.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:29:22 UTC No. 15889029
>>15889020
Because thousands of people would have to admit they are frauds who stole money for decades. They wouldn't care that much at the end of the day but it would bruise egos.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:30:10 UTC No. 15889030
>>15889017
Marginally, yes. However I think it could ultimately be for the best since it will remind Congress that using every mission as a slush fund and jobs project has tangible consequences. Better the wake up call happen early.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:35:00 UTC No. 15889035
>>15889020
Because it would invalidate the work of thousands of people at jpl. The MSR vehicle needs to be a bespoke single use rocket with a unique delivery system and a seperate one of a kind rover mission to transport the samples to the rocket.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:35:06 UTC No. 15889036
>>15889025
I guess the plan it to manufacture the whole steel plate, dig arount OLM, install it and then finally place the table. That could be 6 months away.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:36:25 UTC No. 15889040
>>15889020
Because you're schizophrenic.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:38:36 UTC No. 15889042
>>15888908
another muskian lie
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:46:07 UTC No. 15889049
>>15888538
The only "people" who like caviar are Russians because it tastes like cum. For obvious reasons.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:49:47 UTC No. 15889056
>>15889020
Because the point of MSR is to shovel money into JPL for more design work. If there's another thing that can do it (let alone better), then it's a threat to JPL's revenue.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:51:12 UTC No. 15889059
>>15888618
Global tsunamis as the oceans rush to fill in the CONTUS hole and are then displaced again
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:52:36 UTC No. 15889062
Last bits from Casey:
>There is no law of physics that says that Casey and Jack need to be old men by the time MSR succeeds, if it succeeds. NASA’s behavior reflects its incentives. If you want to understand what the incentives are, look at the behavior of the organization. Asking for more than a billion dollars a year indefinitely on a mission with fundamental unaddressed architectural issues that doesn’t even report to the senior layers of management? How did that happen? JPL’s entire business line (exquisitely expensive complex space robots every decade or so) is threatened by Starship, and the response absolutely needs to be a concerted organizational focus, including re-orgs where necessary, around increasing production rate, development rate, and customer value. Not trying to squeeze the last few drops out of the outdated business model. The insane thing is that nearly every program and project manager within JPL understands and recognizes this, and a good number have left for SpaceX, Blue Origin, or other companies. It’s not for a lack of intelligence or will that this process innovation is unable to occur. There’s something deeply rotten in the core of the organizational structure that, like all bureaucracies, serves to protect and defend the bureaucracy and process over all else.
... something deeply rotten in the core of the organizational structure
Reminds me of Feynman's conclusion.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:56:54 UTC No. 15889072
>>15889062
>JPL’s entire business line (exquisitely expensive complex space robots every decade or so) is threatened by Starship
how? deep space robotic exploration is no less complex just because it's suddenly cheaper to get your robots on the right trajectory
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:57:53 UTC No. 15889074
>>15889056
They have no lack of work in designing actually useful test article drones for Mars and Moon colonization but I guess admitting private space will colonize soon psychologically admits defeat.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:58:53 UTC No. 15889076
>>15889020
Because they still don't get it
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:00:07 UTC No. 15889077
>>15889017
Be hilarious if the chinks stole the samples.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:00:32 UTC No. 15889079
>>15888932
why would it not decompress in a wave traveling at the speed of sound
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:02:22 UTC No. 15889086
>>15889062
>reminds me of Feynman's conclusion
Could you please elaborate? Did he say something about spaceflight or a more general subject?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:02:54 UTC No. 15889088
>>15889020
its a threat to JPLs existence like red dragon would have been
a threat to their "business model" in the very least, the money spigot would stop
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:04:03 UTC No. 15889093
>>15888932
>30 seconds of hard vacuum won't kill you
Instant change from 1 atmosphere to no atmosphere would kill you instantly. Rapid decompression is far more catastrophic to your body than simple exposure. Your blood would boil, degas instantly and all the fats and such would precipitate out too, you'd be the embodiment of an American with fat in their veins. Your digestive tract and respiratory system would either collapse in on themselves or violently empty themselves, depending on if the air inside didn't come with them or if it did
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:05:39 UTC No. 15889095
>>15889072
One look at a JPL rover should tell you that the fucking thing is absolutely not a multi billion dollar machine.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:07:10 UTC No. 15889098
>>15889072
Starship would not only get them on the trajectory, it would be the lander as well and eliminate a large portion of the rube goldberg machines JPL is using to land mass on the surface of mars right now
and you are also completely wrong about them not being less complex
yes, they would be less complex, you can exchange more mass for less complexity
mass autism means you have to over-engineer the robotic probe making it much more complex
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:08:23 UTC No. 15889100
>>15889086
I would guess it refers to some comment about shuttle accident investigations and NASAs bureucracy in general, but I don't know/remember the exact quote
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:10:31 UTC No. 15889101
>>15889098
on some parts of Mars maybe, but there's a 0% chance starship is landing on Io or Venus or an asteroid or whatever. For basically every mission not immediately made redundant by SpaceX's Mars plans, it's just an LV.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:11:21 UTC No. 15889102
>>15889101
Starship would float in Venus' atmosphere
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:13:18 UTC No. 15889103
>>15888989
Most of the projects are incomplete or abandoned.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:13:44 UTC No. 15889104
>>15889093
it wouldn't be instant
there's a wave
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:15:58 UTC No. 15889106
>>15889086
>Feynman's conclusion
from memory he succintly pointed at the serious dysfunction within NASA; quick search just now:
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/06/11/
>In looking over the NASA calculations, Dr. Feynman said: ''I saw considerable flaws in their logic. I found they were making up numbers not based on experience. NASA's engineering judgment was not the judgment of its engineers.''
https://history.nasa.gov/rogersrep/
>Official management, on the other hand, claims to believe the probability of failure is a thousand times less. One reason for this may be an attempt to assure the government of NASA perfection and success in order to ensure the supply of funds. The other may be that they sincerely believed it to be true, demonstrating an almost incredible lack of communication between themselves and their working engineers.
>Let us make recommendations to ensure that NASA officials deal in a world of reality in understanding technological weaknesses and imperfections well enough to be actively trying to eliminate them.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:21:11 UTC No. 15889113
>>15889072
Starship eliminates mass autism meaning it's possible to mass produce standard probes with plugin attachments as necessary
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:21:14 UTC No. 15889114
Someone please post "I'm sick of NASA and their lies" meme. I think I lost it
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:43:01 UTC No. 15889135
>>15888871
>posting about your children on 4chan.org
>posting about your infant daughter on 4chan
maybe you should do some thinking about not being a piece of shit
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:51:53 UTC No. 15889140
>>15888871
post feet pics when she's born
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 01:57:26 UTC No. 15889144
>>15888871
Why? Just 3D print it in your garage for $5
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:17:36 UTC No. 15889162
>>15888648
>scifi not written by nerds
always a recipe for disaster
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:18:43 UTC No. 15889165
>>15888908
>>15888929
Where is Falcon 5, dammit??
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:21:02 UTC No. 15889169
if musk goes to mars, it's all over
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:22:52 UTC No. 15889172
Data from Kepler reveals reason behind shrinking exoplanets
--
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/202
> Interestingly, among the 5,000+ exoplanets that have been discovered and cataloged by NASA, ESA, and other agencies, there is a strange absence of exoplanets whose sizes are between 1.5 and two times the size of Earth (between super-Earths and sub-Neptunes). In a new study using data from NASA’s now-retired Kepler Space Telescope, scientists may have found evidence for why this size gap exists — the cores of the exoplanets are pushing away their atmospheres from the inside out.
> Scientists believe that the sub-Neptune exoplanets are the possible cause of the size gap, as previous studies have shown that sub-Neptunes are susceptible to atmospheric loss. The exoplanets can lose their atmospheres if they don’t have enough mass, and therefore enough gravitational force, to keep their atmospheres. If this theory of atmospheric loss is true and the sub-Neptunes don’t have enough mass to hold on to their atmospheres, they’d likely shrink to the size of super-Earths, explaining the size gap between super-Earths and sub-Neptunes.
> Christiansen et al.’s results allowed the team to conclude that photoevaporation could not have occurred within Praesepe and Hyades, as there would be very few exoplanets with atmospheres within the star clusters if photoevaporation had occurred. This means that core-powered mass loss is the leading theory behind atmospheric loss in sub-Neptunes.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:36:44 UTC No. 15889189
>>15889165
I'm still waiting on stratolaunched falcon , musk is a LYING rat.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:44:07 UTC No. 15889196
>>15889193
2 more fortnights
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:44:53 UTC No. 15889197
>>15889062
>Asking for more than a billion dollars a year indefinitely on a mission with fundamental unaddressed architectural issues
For a moment there I thought you were talking about SLS.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:46:11 UTC No. 15889198
>>15889134
This is neat. A fun sci-fi novel idea I've had for a while is an alternate history where a bunch of big Native American tribes decided to pool the profits from their casinos and start an aerospace company that eventually colonized Mars.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:48:29 UTC No. 15889202
>>15889198
>Mormon/Injun wars on Mars
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:49:23 UTC No. 15889204
>>15889202
Utah is already full of bare red rock.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 02:54:56 UTC No. 15889212
>>15889197
there is nothing wrong with sls apart from being extraordinarily expensive and underpowered due to not having a second stage. It fundamentally works for what they are trying to use it for, and it works with extraordinary precision due to the fact that its all extrmely well known 70's hardware
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:01:51 UTC No. 15889223
>>15889198
>tfw you will never relax after a long day of digging tunnels on Mars with your space pickaxe by dropping by the local indian colony to play the slots and buying clove cigarettes.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:03:13 UTC No. 15889224
>>15889220
I know you're shitposting, but with hindsight, it would've been foolish to actually pursue Falcon 1's development further once they had the resupply contract for the ISS with Falcon 9.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:05:12 UTC No. 15889225
>>15889224
Yeah I'm just shitposting. I'm trying to track down the magazine in which I first heard of Elon Musk and SpaceX but I can't seem to find it. I thought it was Popular Science or Scientific American but I can't find it in either of those. From what I recall the article profiled several private rocket companies and had a big image of Elon Musk and talked about his plans. Nothing I've found so far matches my memory though.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:09:41 UTC No. 15889229
>>15889218
"dotcom millionaire Elon Musk" just sounds so wrong
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:10:03 UTC No. 15889230
>>15889222
>maiden launch
>41% fail
clearly new rockets are troons
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:21:18 UTC No. 15889240
>>15889229
it is wrong
he's a dotcom billionaire
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:23:12 UTC No. 15889244
how can water be extracted on Mars in large enough quantities for fuel generation? I understand there is permafrost but I don't understand how it can be used without human labour
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:27:26 UTC No. 15889248
>>15889240
it was correct when it was written (unless the writer fucked up), which is part of the point. just weird to see how much his stature has changed
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:30:46 UTC No. 15889256
>>15889244
Mars is covered in a thin layer of dust and then kilometers of permafrost
Just dig out the ice, warm it until it boils, collect the water vapor and dump the solids
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:38:16 UTC No. 15889264
>>15889256
Easier said than done, you're talking about a major excavation, a veritable quarry on another planet.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:42:49 UTC No. 15889269
>>15889134
>DO NOT OPEN
What are you supposed to do with it?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:45:17 UTC No. 15889271
>>15889198
>Red man goes to the red planet
heh
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:47:04 UTC No. 15889275
>>15889269
Bring back down, plant, and compare with seeds that didn't go up.
https://images.nasa.gov/details/iss
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:47:06 UTC No. 15889276
>>15889264
Inevitably this will require robotic fleets numbering in the thousands of regolith harvesting/ processing/ transporting units for even small permanent settlements. We're still a long, long way from this being feasible. First step is Starship being able to finally put 1000's of tons of hardware down on the surface
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:49:42 UTC No. 15889279
>>15889144
kek
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:51:59 UTC No. 15889284
>>15889193
>Less than a month until Vulcan attempts to fly
FTFY
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:53:20 UTC No. 15889286
>>15889276
Each Starship puts what, 150 tons into LEO? Assuming they can each land 150 tons on the Martian surface as well, which seems dubious, that's 7 Starships to Mars just for the first thousand tons. And those Starships will be stranded there at least until propellant production can begin, if not scrapped on the spot. Reusability requires Martian infrastructure that will be very expensive to create without reusability already in place.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:54:16 UTC No. 15889288
>>15889193
>those solid boosters
I am vomit
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 03:59:00 UTC No. 15889293
>>15889198
We need indigenous people to populate Mars. The historical pattern of White colonization and displacement of the natives requires it. We simply don't have sufficient precedent for colonizing uninhabited territory. It's why Antarctica and the oceans are still uncolonized.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:01:03 UTC No. 15889295
>>15889036
That's definitely a 2025 thing
Screen shot this
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:03:08 UTC No. 15889300
>>15889297
patrician's choice
absolute unit
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:03:57 UTC No. 15889301
>>15889300
Aged like the shuttle
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:06:46 UTC No. 15889304
>>15889301
>>15889297
>>15889300
being in space adds about 5 points.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:08:54 UTC No. 15889307
>>15889198
>drop injuns on mars
>decades later the white man comes along to claim his stakes
>indian wars 2.0 happen
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:09:51 UTC No. 15889308
>>15889286
It seems obvious to develop Starship variants that would land on Mars and act as on-site fuel production plants that are never meant to leave. Separate Starships would act as temporary habitats and laboratories until larger habs could be constructed with inflatables from Earth. The first few decades would be spent getting water collection going followed by mining and eventually basic manufacturing. This is all technically possible, it's just a question of whether or not we will ever see enough launches in our lives to even begin the process
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:15:34 UTC No. 15889323
>>15889308
As I see it, packing a methane production plant into a starship makes sense but dropping a bunch of robotic bulldozers onto Mars to start permafrost harvesting would be a significant challenge. Starship has a propellant capacity of a 1.2 thousand tons, so they'll need to process several thousand tons of Martian soil and permafrost at least. The logistics of this seems daunting, particularly if it's meant to be done using robots (no humans around to service them...)
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:17:03 UTC No. 15889326
>>15889286
>Martian development will be expensive
Thanks for your input. Good thing that starlink is printing billions of moneys.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:18:22 UTC No. 15889328
>>15889326
He needs that BRILLIANT PEBBLES contract coin.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:25:36 UTC No. 15889342
>>15889330
PATHETIC
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:25:44 UTC No. 15889343
>>15889330
Why don't they paint towers red anymore? I do not care for the white/gray/black aesthetic.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:28:51 UTC No. 15889349
>>15889342
good shit. I kneel.
>>15889343
fish and wildlife implications.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:30:40 UTC No. 15889352
>>15889349
ah yes I see, the color red causes emotional distress for ocelots
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:34:11 UTC No. 15889361
>>15889352
there was also concern that a shark might see it
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 04:36:20 UTC No. 15889364
How large a rocket would be needed to bring 1 ton of payload from Mars surface to LMO with current thrust figures for hypergolics? Flying out multiple stages and keeping one in orbit for the transfer back to LEO is probably more efficient than a full Mars surface to LEO or Earth surface, even.
T. Brainlet who's curious about MSR privatization feasibility.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:03:47 UTC No. 15889375
>>15889352
it's a common thing, in Spain they banned all red buildings for fear that a bull might ram into it
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:16:07 UTC No. 15889381
Btw that faggot early stager and Krystoid Noa made the last thread. I also think he made this thread and staged them simultaneously just because of the way the 'Previous' line is the same (possibly unmedicated idea). I have not forgotten what you did with the IFT-2 threads.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:19:56 UTC No. 15889385
>>15889381
KYS dramafag
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:20:10 UTC No. 15889386
>>15889381
Dude probably fucks that cat. Kill all furries.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:21:03 UTC No. 15889387
>>15889381
Proof, claims it as his video and the last thread was posted before 5 hours ago. Unless someone wants to reverse search this and turn up that it wasnt his video and he's lying I think it's pretty cut and dry.
>>15889386
Was gonna say that.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:25:38 UTC No. 15889389
>>15889387
He just deleted that tweet btw kek.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:30:35 UTC No. 15889392
>>15889330
moar pls
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:39:08 UTC No. 15889400
Going to delete this post right after. Don't reply.
>>15874424
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/15872
This here is the first instance of the webm on Nov 19. Filename is "Rapidsave.com It Was My Cat-s10uj9wu4b1c1". I wasn't sure what "rapidsave" was so I searched for it and found out it's a site used to save videos from reddit.
From there I searched
>site:reddit.com "it was my cat"
and found probably the original reddit post by Danubxd on /r/StarshipDevelopment on Nov 19. From a quick glance, I don't think danubxd is a furry.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:39:13 UTC No. 15889401
>>15889381
I don't give a damn who makes any OP, I scroll past the original post after the first half dozen posts in a thread and never see it again. People who whine about OPs being improperly formed deserve a bullet in the head.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:42:57 UTC No. 15889406
>>15889401
I didnt even mention anything about the OP being incorrect though? I just said they were similar between the two, I dont have an issue with how the OPs were made.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:47:16 UTC No. 15889412
>>15889401
gettin real defensive over an anon that isnt you
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:52:40 UTC No. 15889419
KSP 2 better come out soon or /sfg/ is dead
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 05:57:35 UTC No. 15889428
>>15889419
Hows the sun on Orcus.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 06:45:28 UTC No. 15889473
https://twitter.com/peterrhague/sta
>humans must be forcibly kept on Earth - otherwise space coloinists will go bad and destroy the Earth with asteroids.
NUKE E*RTHERS!!!
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 06:51:54 UTC No. 15889478
>>15889473
How do we solve the space sex problem?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 06:51:57 UTC No. 15889479
>>15889473
We will do this.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 06:59:28 UTC No. 15889490
>>15889473
Future space colonist who would destroy the e*rth with asteroids reporting in
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:05:18 UTC No. 15889493
>>15889062
It's actually kind of funny I'm reading this now. Suddenly a shocking amount of NASA decisions since the 2000s make sense as they try to get away from JPL
APL getting more work running missions, Other lower tier (and vastly cheaper) universities getting development jobs, private firms like kinetX and SwRI doing stuff only NASA (Ames, KSC, GSFC) used to do before. Psyche was the straw that broke them though: JPL had gone from merely extremely expensive to an actual risk, and that's when NASA's immune system went into overdrive. They may have had differences with JPL before but as soon as risk enters the picture NASA has an allergic reaction. MSR blowing the budget in an environment where JWST was finally in the rear view mirror must have pissed off everyone from the OIG to the national academy (which --specifically-- called out MSR as a budget risk on the decadal survey long before anything was public)
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:13:40 UTC No. 15889498
>>15889330
Is this the Saturn V launch. If so was it snowing in Florida?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:19:19 UTC No. 15889503
>>15888860
Wars bad, nevermind all the innovation and all the tryharding it breads. We once did it with America, I say we do it again with Mars and the Moon
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:26:50 UTC No. 15889512
>>15889473
a) They're correct
b) Fuck them for trying to stop it
c) Their city will be the first to burn
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:34:22 UTC No. 15889518
>>15889473
The extinctionists get all uppity when it's their life on the line
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:42:15 UTC No. 15889529
>>15889473
Why would belters help mars?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:52:20 UTC No. 15889545
>>15889529
Closest planetary settlement, if they want to sell anything to the inner solar system without having to pay extra for fuel, they will sell it on Mars.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:00:26 UTC No. 15889552
>>15886257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7R
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_(
Killing walmart christmas shoppers under the earth.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:01:00 UTC No. 15889553
>>15888540
>>15888556
its just a another pipeline of shithose of falsehoods ziggers and xiggers are spraying everywhere. Part of their demoralization propaganda campaigns. Everybody who saw these shitbirds behave during the ukraine war, specially on 4chan during the first weeks, recognizes this from also this bizzare brics space cope they are pushing
never underestimate the power of dirt cheap turd world data centers and literal scripted bots
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:11:22 UTC No. 15889565
>>15889545
Not unless torchships exist. Synods between the Belt and Mars are terrible. It's often faster to go directly to Earth.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:13:19 UTC No. 15889570
>>15889552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGi
https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Coco
Just be before capricorn
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:33:21 UTC No. 15889596
SUSIE is happening and that makes /sfg/ seethe
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:37:29 UTC No. 15889600
>>15889529
>implying Martian chads couldn't just drop Deimos and Phobos on e*rthers
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:43:37 UTC No. 15889606
>>15889596
It actually makes me happy because it shows SOMEONE other than Elon has a real shot at second stage reuse.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:54:50 UTC No. 15889628
>>15889596
sussy
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 08:56:56 UTC No. 15889632
>>15889606
it's more of a Hermes reimagined with reusable service module
second stage still gets thrown away
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 09:07:07 UTC No. 15889643
>>15889632
oh that's super gay then
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 09:09:24 UTC No. 15889644
>>15889307
it should subvert your expectations and business savvy casino injuns are displacing NASA settlers running things like government bureaucracy
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 09:20:00 UTC No. 15889660
>>15889381
Fuck off dude, i was the one who posted this OC thread. I’m gonna take a wild guess you’re him and you’re the one who keeps accusing everyone.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 09:54:00 UTC No. 15889712
>>15889705
Ask ARSE.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 09:56:10 UTC No. 15889715
>>15889705
Why did you post webm from penal colony?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:04:24 UTC No. 15889728
>>15889705
1958
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:21:58 UTC No. 15889754
>>15889106
Thanks anon!
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:22:47 UTC No. 15889756
>>15889343
The red paint used on these was red lead oxide (minium) based.
The pigment actually reacted with iron rather that covered up the surface with plastic goop holding it on, like red paint you can buy now.
You could use iron phosphate instead these days that can do similar thing as the lead paint, but it's dark grey.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:27:06 UTC No. 15889761
>>15889343
For me, it's green.
Also, why does the Soyuz launch tower look so kino?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:43:18 UTC No. 15889786
>>15889381
I don't care as long as he doesn't spam his fetishes here
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:46:20 UTC No. 15889791
>>15889256
if what you say is true then its actually bad. it massively complicates settlement. humans will have to live on a dry patch.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:46:51 UTC No. 15889792
>>15889791
Humans live on permafrost all the time here on Earth.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:54:27 UTC No. 15889806
>>15889792
permafrost is scarcely settled, especially when the permafrost is under a thin layer of topsoil. don't even get me started on mining.
the reason is that your settlement, or whatever youre doing, will produce enough heat to disturb the integrity of the permafrost. that would be especially true for an underground Mars settlement. it seems like mining through kilometers of that would be a nightmare which makes resource extraction nearly impossible.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:55:08 UTC No. 15889808
>>15889791
It's only true in some areas.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:55:59 UTC No. 15889811
>>15889806
You're forgetting that the permafrost IS the resource for Sabatier synthesis of methalox. They can structure the settlement like an open quarry.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:56:13 UTC No. 15889812
>>15889806
Russians build on it all the time. All you have to do is build your structure on 1m high stilts.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:07:49 UTC No. 15889823
>>15889811
>Sabatier synthesis of methalox
Pure fantasy
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:10:17 UTC No. 15889824
>>15889823
True it was made up by science fiction writer John Sabatier, who used it as a main plotpoint
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:17:54 UTC No. 15889831
>>15889761
It appeals to the male sensibilities of holding a phallic object with a solid grip
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:23:45 UTC No. 15889841
>>15889823
It's a real process, but it's unlikely SpaceX will get the licence from the FAA for synthesizing methane on Mars
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:32:32 UTC No. 15889851
>>15889841
>6 month delay because FWS want a full ecological report on possible impact to potential microorganisms surviving in the permafrost
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:36:55 UTC No. 15889856
>>15889841
They don't get a say.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:54:41 UTC No. 15889863
>>15889761
the soyuz tower and hold down clamps look so weird. its like the soviets discovered alien tech and tried to copy it in a shitty tractor factory way
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:11:12 UTC No. 15889868
>>15889823
you can literally order an entire sabatier methane plant if you wish to do so
https://www.hz-inova.com/wiki/etoga
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:12:57 UTC No. 15889873
>>15889868
the question is how do you get thousands of tonnes of water into your machine out of the martian permafrost?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:26:06 UTC No. 15889879
>>15889873
Digging it up and melting it, duh.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:32:53 UTC No. 15889885
>>15888995
>the fetch rover is solar powered, but that means it can’t operate in dust storm season and can’t run very quickly.
Solarfags in shambles.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:42:40 UTC No. 15889891
>>15889889
>SF fintech
>spacex
????????????????
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:44:34 UTC No. 15889892
>>15889891
might be a third party hiring firm that hires for SpaceX, uber and dash (in the picture) + fintech in general
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:45:18 UTC No. 15889893
>>15889892
>This is on blind (the app). You can post to everyone on the app, or just to people at your company. When shit is going down at your company, blind is basically the only safe place to gossip (stuff like Slack will be monitored).
>The "SpaceX" by their name just means they worked there at one point. By their own text they don't work there anymore. Blind doesn't reverify where you work (usually, but they can). And you can't switch employers, you have to make a whole new account. So a lot of people never update it after they leave jobs.
>That said it's also undoubtedly a fake story, blind is full of fake stupid stuff like this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMusk
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:46:17 UTC No. 15889895
>>15889889
It's a perfect hiring filter.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:55:57 UTC No. 15889901
>>15886940
Is this midjourney?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:57:46 UTC No. 15889902
>>15889896
Who the fucks is into Indians?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:07:59 UTC No. 15889909
Why did G-d create different races. He is the initiator of all racism
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:10:23 UTC No. 15889913
>>15889902
Scat fetishists
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:12:29 UTC No. 15889916
https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/
> These are also simplified models to make simulation easier to work with. In future i might make more versions of this
> Additionally if anyone would like to suggest possible changes I could make to this to create a more accurate simulation, Please do leave a response of your ideas.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:13:31 UTC No. 15889918
>>15889916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9W
> SpaceX Starship Booster 9 Tank Slosh simulation
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:15:40 UTC No. 15889920
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:24:13 UTC No. 15889929
China makes progress on Raptor-like engines for super heavy rocket
---
https://spacenews.com/china-makes-p
> HELSINKI — China is progressing with a program to develop full-flow staged-combustion-cycle methane engines to power its reusable Long March 9 super heavy-lift launcher.
> Work to develop full-flow staged-combustion-cycle methane-liquid oxygen rocket engines producing 200 tons of thrust includes progress on overall design and components.
> Clusters of 26 of the reusable engines will power the first stage of China’s Long March 9 super heavy-lift launcher, according to designs presented earlier by officials from the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp. (CASC), China’s main space contractor. CASC is understood to be targeting 2033 for a first test flight on the massive rocket.
> The paper notes research began in China in the 1980s and that 10-ton and 80-ton-thrust methalox engines have now been developed. The latter have undergone successful hot fire tests and mark advancements in engine reliability and reusability.
> The paper states that core indicators make the engine comparable to the SpaceX Raptor engine that powers Super Heavy/Starship. As the world’s second full-flow staged-combustion-cycle methalox engine it is superior to Blue Origin’s BE-4 and other domestic and international methane engines, the paper claims. The latter engines have a higher thrust, however.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:25:15 UTC No. 15889931
>>15889929
https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/sta
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:34:38 UTC No. 15889939
>>15889929
>China is progressing with a program to steal full-flow staged-combustion-cycle methane engines to power its also stolen reusable Long March 9 super heavy-lift launcher.
ftfy
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:36:42 UTC No. 15889943
>>15889916
>>15889918
>>15889920
How do most of the engines even still light in that scenario?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:39:15 UTC No. 15889946
>Astra secures $2.7 million in additional financing
https://spacenews.com/astra-secures
How are people still giving money to Astra? (And anyway that amount probably pays only one week of expenses)
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:46:15 UTC No. 15889954
>>15888995
This entire concept was ridiculous from inception. Why send a rover after the real rover to re-pickup the rocks that the other one picked up and dropped? Not to mention the complexities of this whole scheme making it highly unlikely to see the light of day and succeed.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:51:56 UTC No. 15889961
>>15889014
A Starship can't leave Mars without refueling in-situ. So as much as I want to see a Starship hopping around, taking an excavator scoop of Mars from different places and maybe a few core samples before returning, I don't think you can make that work without a ludicrous fleet of tankers refueling tankers refueling tankers refueling Tankers all the way to Mars
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:20:18 UTC No. 15889981
>>15889014
>SpaceX doesn’t need the money anymore
SpaceX won.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:22:03 UTC No. 15889983
>>15889913
<insert pol AI image>
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:23:59 UTC No. 15889986
Fluid hammer.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:24:27 UTC No. 15889987
>>15889969
>didn't know that info about that starship hop when it exploded in the fog.
That's because it's a conspiracy. Munley literally just made that up. You couldn't see the vehicle explode so him talking about how the explosion originated at the common dome is nothing more than speculation
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:24:38 UTC No. 15889989
>>15889856
Is it possible the methane could land on a shark?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:27:11 UTC No. 15889993
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:29:13 UTC No. 15889994
>>15889987
wasn't it just FTS? I was under that impression
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:31:42 UTC No. 15889998
>>15889994
it was fluid hammer.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:36:59 UTC No. 15889999
>>15889998
I was talking about SN11 exploding in the fog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN7
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:37:04 UTC No. 15890000
>>15889998
do you have a SpaceX affiliated source confirming this? OR is this just wild speculation trying to bring attention away from the Raptors?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:41:35 UTC No. 15890005
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:44:43 UTC No. 15890008
Aliens destroyed starship during fog launch they also did the same during ift 2 and that's why we haven't seen any footage of it.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:49:25 UTC No. 15890012
>>15890007
That looks non-nominal
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:51:00 UTC No. 15890013
>>15889987
Hullo was also wrong about the CO2 coming out of the engine area of booster during engine shutdown being propellant.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:51:27 UTC No. 15890015
>>15889946
WHY WON'T YOU FUCKING DIE ALREADY
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:10:39 UTC No. 15890029
>>15890015
The secret investor desperately keeping them alive is…………… the United States Federal Government!!!
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:28:08 UTC No. 15890043
>>15889954
The samples that Percy dropped are backup ones, but sending a rover to pickup samples from another rover is still pretty retarded
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:32:08 UTC No. 15890044
>>15890029
when will the government realize that spay sexploration technologies is the only government funded gib factory allowed!!1!!
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:42:09 UTC No. 15890049
https://youtu.be/j9WFmItGrKk?si=ELJ
booster slosh fluid hammer simulation
why can a youtuber do it but not musk?
it’s over i tell you
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:48:53 UTC No. 15890051
>>15890049
>>15889918
the negative gs from the Starship slowing the booster down made the propellants float up, then they slammed 9 engines on in a split second which threw all of it back down
just have to do it gentler than that
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:58:18 UTC No. 15890058
>>15889929
>>15889931
FUCK YEAH GO CHINA
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:58:47 UTC No. 15890059
fluid hammer.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:03:31 UTC No. 15890066
>>15890043
I knew from the very moment it began caching those samples that nobody was ever going to touch them.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:05:09 UTC No. 15890069
>>15890012
The Glen Canyon Dam barely survived in 1983
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:06:00 UTC No. 15890071
>>15890068
https://twitter.com/Phrankensteyn/s
> With reduced dry mass due to less load, 20 outer Raptors exchanged for 10 RVacs (they are basically sustainer engines), Superheavy could deliver ~100 t to LEO as an SSTO with low insertion + circularisation. Not reusable though, so I wouldn't recommend it.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:07:01 UTC No. 15890075
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:12:30 UTC No. 15890083
>>15889863
Soviet space tech is undeniably the closest thing we have to alien tech
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:15:00 UTC No. 15890088
its so dead lately
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:17:13 UTC No. 15890092
>>15890083
Why are they so backwards then?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:17:55 UTC No. 15890094
>>15890012
Workers repairing martian tunnel after meteor-strike induced earthquake
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:19:18 UTC No. 15890096
>>15889863
Yeah I used to joke about how it looks like tentacles touching the Soyuz but always got zero (you)s
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:24:47 UTC No. 15890102
>>15890088
beats the ift lead up spam
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:27:49 UTC No. 15890106
PREVIOUSLY ON /SFG/
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:33:22 UTC No. 15890113
Dragonfly will have an amazing suite of amazing instruments
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:34:41 UTC No. 15890117
>>15890106
>"From...the Earth?"
>"You're delusional if you think they're going to static fire again today"
>"It's going to explode." (And it did!)
NOW, BACK TO /SFG/
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:39:23 UTC No. 15890129
>>15890092
real life aliens are dumb Mexicans
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:39:54 UTC No. 15890133
>finally watch ad astra because of the previous posting
>thought it was supposed to be relatively accurate
>they fly between planets in a few weeks
>moon and mars have earth gravity for some reason
>why is the mars base so dark red?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:42:04 UTC No. 15890139
>>15890068
No issue with you posting this here, since it's infinitely better than some other things that are posted, but SSTO are shit and won't happen (as long as we're using chemical propulsion at least). It would be great if autists could stop sperging about it.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:42:52 UTC No. 15890141
>>15890133
everything on mars will be painted red.
everything on the moon will be painted gray.
I don't make the rules
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:42:55 UTC No. 15890142
>The Dragonfly Gamma-ray and Neutron Spectrom-
eter (DraGNS) is one of the lander’s four primary in-
struments, and its goal is to measure Titan’s bulk ele-
mental composition at each of the landing sites.
DraGNS will measure the elemental abundances of C,
N, O, H, Na, Mg, P, S, Cl, and K, if present on Titan’s
surface with abundances each of greater than 1 wt.%.
DraGNS is currently in its preliminary development
phase, and its design is being matured based on various
requirements, constraints, and opportunities
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:44:26 UTC No. 15890143
whatever happened with the bacteria on venus
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:46:58 UTC No. 15890146
>>15890143
you mean the phosphene
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:47:04 UTC No. 15890147
>>15890133
i heard that movie is incredibly boring
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:47:06 UTC No. 15890148
>>15890143
it was bullshit hype from the start
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:47:51 UTC No. 15890149
fluid hammer
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:48:07 UTC No. 15890150
>>15890147
pretty much, still kind of comfy vibe
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:49:07 UTC No. 15890155
>>15890148
>>15890143
>>15890146
Sara Seager should be arrested for fraud. Avi Loeb too
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:50:54 UTC No. 15890159
>>15890149
meat hammer
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:53:21 UTC No. 15890163
>Titan has a daily temperature variations of 1k
Why can't Earth have temperature variations this low? Instead we overheat during the day and freeze during the night bros
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:53:35 UTC No. 15890164
>>15890051
>then they slammed 9 engines on in a split second
You have no idea what you are talking about despite there being multiple videos.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:59:20 UTC No. 15890176
>>15890163
beacuse on titan you are always freezing no matter what time
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:06:14 UTC No. 15890189
>>15890164
hes drunk dont talk to him. hes the same schizo who was spamming fluid hammer.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:13:15 UTC No. 15890206
So how is dragonfly going to deal with rain on titan? Are they waterproofing/methaneproofing it?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:14:32 UTC No. 15890207
>>15890200
Boost it high enough to leave it up there for good, why not? Fund the mission with whatever the FAA was gonna get that year, they can live on pennies for a change.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:19:52 UTC No. 15890214
>>15890206
Rain is very rare on Titan apparently. I think I read it only happens every few hundred years
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:20:43 UTC No. 15890219
>>15890214
are you retarded?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:26:07 UTC No. 15890229
>>15890207
>boost it
Would the ISS even survive in a higher altitude? It already has problems with thermal regulation and requires active cooling. If they shut everything off, would it weather the heat cycling of the longer days/nights?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:26:59 UTC No. 15890231
>>15890214
i wouldn't be so sure, here is an interesting paper on the topic (before huygens landing so take with a grain of salt)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:27:56 UTC No. 15890232
>>15890229
no, it would disintegrate like a peperweight and cause kessler syndrome on steriods thanks to the toilet on the russian module expelling ice like bullets.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:31:25 UTC No. 15890235
>>15890229
if ISS were boosted into a higher orbit, it would likely exploded
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:35:15 UTC No. 15890238
>>15890229
it would split into three parts, one part would crash into the moon, another part would return to leo, and another part would splash into the ocean off the coast of japan.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:37:43 UTC No. 15890241
in all seriousness, just boot 'er, turn the lights off, depressurize. done.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:50:56 UTC No. 15890254
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoj
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:54:28 UTC No. 15890258
>>15890254
>1 year ago
Lol
Lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 17:59:45 UTC No. 15890271
>>15890229
Throw a space blanket over it when you leave.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:01:00 UTC No. 15890274
>>15890258
got his one on repeat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7K
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:19:23 UTC No. 15890298
If SpaceX are serious about reusing starship hudnreds or thosuadns of times then shoukdnt they be actively stress testing all of the parts over thousands of cycles right now?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:22:53 UTC No. 15890307
> #FLTA004 update: Our next Alpha flight called Fly the Lightning will launch a dedicated payload for @LockheedMartin as we continue to support the responsive space needs of our customers. This mission will help get on-orbit capabilities in the hands of U.S. warfighters faster. The Firefly team is concurrently ramping up for Alpha FLTA005 for NASA. Get more details on our upcoming missions here: fireflyspace.com/missions/
https://x.com/firefly_space/status/
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:23:51 UTC No. 15890309
>>15890298
All that will come after they prove they can launch them successfully, there's no point testing stuff that might not even be on the production version.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:28:01 UTC No. 15890314
>>15890307
Cringe
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:28:21 UTC No. 15890315
>>15890229
>Thermal regulation
That's because it undergoes 90 min cycles of day/night. In a high orbit it can be in sunlight 100% of the time, and bbq roll to stay the same temperature.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:31:48 UTC No. 15890320
>>15890307
Based
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:36:52 UTC No. 15890324
>we're making a new Hubble, without a shield!
>this NEEDS to be in an inaccessible space, so we can use IR!
>the JWST is fine guys, beyond expectations
>oh, dont worry about that spot, we're still aligning
>*cough* we-we're good, jsut a few more sparkles in the raws
>we can fix it in post!
>don-d-don't worry, it's just one mirror, there's no rocks out here
>just a few hits
>this is a learning experience
>starship will solve this with a new one
when will NASA (re)learn that there will ALWAYS be unexpected complications when sending shit out to space? spend billions on a single shot and expect the consequences.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:42:52 UTC No. 15890329
>>15890043
Rube Goldberg machine
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:52:30 UTC No. 15890336
>>15890324
document on the accumulated error after the first year btw
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:57:27 UTC No. 15890341
>>15890336
how bad is it?
projected lifetime?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:58:30 UTC No. 15890343
>>15890141
Vehicles and buildings on Mars will be painted cyan or bright green for contrast
much like they are painted orange or red in the Arctic
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:58:53 UTC No. 15890344
>>15890341
it's OVER
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:59:44 UTC No. 15890345
>>15890342
congrats to them on their falcon 5 equivalent test article i guess
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:01:48 UTC No. 15890349
>>15890344
oh no! not my heckin -0.5 microns!
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:02:05 UTC No. 15890350
>>15890342
If nooglin reaches orbit before Starship, I think I'll have to kill myself
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:05:00 UTC No. 15890354
>>15890342
wen hop
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:06:23 UTC No. 15890356
>>15890349
this thing is not lasting 20+ years as hyped in the slightest with those mirror distortions
if one is already out of alignment and post-correction error is already sliding up, before motors start to wear down, post-capture corrections to ghosting aren't gonna save it
there are rocks in space. dont think you can escape them.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:10:13 UTC No. 15890362
>>15890350
it doesnt matter. starship will probably get to orbit mutiple times next year, then dozens the year after.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:17:25 UTC No. 15890365
>>15890362
cope.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:21:56 UTC No. 15890367
>>15889473
I haven't read it yet, but have listened to a podcast with the 2 authors. I found the host, Adam Conover, insufferable- a smug, ignorant fool. He kvetched about the poor astronomers not being able to see stars anymore due to megaconstellations, and kessler syndrome. I fully expected to hear him to bring up the FWS talking points like 'muh beetles, sharks, ocelots, sharks, whales' but thankfully he didn't.
The book sounds intersting, and I like SMBC for the economics content, but like most science-related comics such as xkcd, they go full retard when dealing with certain topics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ0
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:22:14 UTC No. 15890368
>>15890143
Never trust an astronomer, they're all liars. This is why we need to go to space and see things for ourselves.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:23:11 UTC No. 15890370
>>15890368
astronomers: nooooooo you cant just go there you will contaminate it and ruin the natural beauty
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:23:18 UTC No. 15890371
>>15889478
rape.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:23:28 UTC No. 15890372
>>15890071
Could be an option if you want to have an excuse to leave a whole Superheavy in orbit to be picked up later for making a big station.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:29:34 UTC No. 15890378
I cant cope with how stinky elon is.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:29:41 UTC No. 15890379
>>15890367
three insufferable faggots, how horrible
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:33:31 UTC No. 15890384
>>15890378
I actually like Elon's Musk
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:36:39 UTC No. 15890385
>>15890367
>Weinersmith describes being "raised Jewish, in an only casually religious environment".
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:37:06 UTC No. 15890387
>>15890342
BASED BASED BASED
WAKEY WAKEY ELON FUCKING BASTARD
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:38:24 UTC No. 15890389
>>15890385
pure coincidence
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:40:23 UTC No. 15890390
>>15890367
this is awful
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:40:35 UTC No. 15890391
>>15890385
>Books
>Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration
wow, another coincidence
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:41:28 UTC No. 15890393
>>15890385
death cult, or least the leftist ones. not sure about those hasidic ones.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:42:26 UTC No. 15890394
WE CANT GO TO MARS
YOU HAVENT THOUGHT THIS THROUGH
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:43:47 UTC No. 15890397
YOU CANT HAVE BABIES IN SPACE
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:44:07 UTC No. 15890398
>>15890397
proof?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:46:27 UTC No. 15890400
>>15890398
I SAID SO OKAY YOU JUST CANT
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:48:22 UTC No. 15890404
>>15890400
ok I'm sorry I didn't know.
really too bad though
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 19:51:43 UTC No. 15890408
>>15890404
read my book
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:04:52 UTC No. 15890423
>>15890367
These people are fucking delusional. Shitting on capitalism, commercial spaceflight, starlink, all while doing a video call OVER STARLINK. AND THEN SUGGESTING LAYING PIPE AND FIBER OPTIC IS CHEAPER LMFAO WHAT THE FUCK
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:10:04 UTC No. 15890429
>>15889020
Because it invalidates the sample return anyways
Why go through the trouble of picking up random packaged samples when you could harvest a few tons of rocks on the landing site instead
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:11:20 UTC No. 15890430
if spacex builds too many starlink satellites we might run out of precious metals. all the satellites will deorbit and turn to dust, then all of it is lost. eventually we will be all out of ore, and we just turned it to dust
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:11:44 UTC No. 15890431
>>15890423
they'll say anything for shekels
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:12:14 UTC No. 15890432
>>15890430
ezpz just mine asteroids
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:13:36 UTC No. 15890434
>>15890408
HUMANITY MUST BE KEPT ON EARTH BY FORCE TO NOT DISTRACT FROM CLIMATE EQUITY
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:15:30 UTC No. 15890437
>>15890367
>SMBC
Those comics are all the same. The punchline is always some brown science woman being pointlessly pedantic and yelling.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:15:34 UTC No. 15890438
>>15890008
with shitty welding?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:19:54 UTC No. 15890446
>>15890429
because the perseverance samples are from a range of biomes?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:28:13 UTC No. 15890466
>>15890367
He's one of those democrat bots that spread DNC propaganda
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:29:48 UTC No. 15890468
>>15890446
lol
lmao even
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:32:20 UTC No. 15890471
>>15890341
>>15890336
It's fine. The surface quality was better than required or expected, and the changes to scheduling mean that it will likely still be in spec in 20 years. Note that it wouldn't cease to be useful even if it was degraded that far.
>>15890324
>don-d-don't worry, it's just one mirror, there's no rocks out here
Nobody ever said that. Impacts were expected, and the mirrors and sunshield were tested for it. The impact rate now matches expectation.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:32:26 UTC No. 15890472
>>15890446
I picked up a cool rock in my back yard and one at the park and some sand from walmart's parking lot.
it's good to have such a diverse range of environments in my mineral collection.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:35:47 UTC No. 15890481
>>15890344
Who cares, Starship will launch one 20 times bigger before it breaks completely.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:39:21 UTC No. 15890490
>>15890472
JPL completely fucking shit their pants from this post
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:41:27 UTC No. 15890498
Wait a minute...why can't Jewish people just stay home and mind their business? Why are they trying to stop me from going to Mars?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:43:00 UTC No. 15890501
>>15890367
>You Don't Actually Want to Live on Mars
Are they saying it as some sort of a revelation? I don't think that anyone thinks that life on Mars will be better than on Earth. People want to do this not because it's easy (it's not easy at all), but because it's something that has to be done for the future of Mankind.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:46:11 UTC No. 15890510
>>15890092
The alien word for up is "down"
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:47:23 UTC No. 15890511
>used to get zero (you)s
>still getting zero (you)s
kek
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:48:24 UTC No. 15890515
>>15890141
otherwise it would be impossible to tell which planet you were on
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:49:48 UTC No. 15890517
>>15890298
they don't even know what parts will be in the production version yet, dingus
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:49:54 UTC No. 15890518
>15890511
maybe stop trolling 24/7 to get (you)s fag
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:52:39 UTC No. 15890526
>>15890371
Artemis a.k.a send a woman and a black is way ahead of you
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:52:54 UTC No. 15890528
>>15890471
>Nobody ever said that
you can see the panel yourself in >>15890344, motors are already getting slow enough to skew observation error
>>15890481
>this is a learning experience
>starship will solve this with a new one
keep eating the slop, when your phone gets cracked "within expectations" while it's in warranty(mission), it's bad luck for anything that happens after.
>Just buy a new one
tell that to the good old, #repairable hubble; best JWST this could do after it's exhausted is to use remaining fuel to crash into a comet to get a final image of some dust.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:54:35 UTC No. 15890531
>>15890000
Wasted quads
Raptor unreliabilityniggers are still peddling this narrative even now, such desperate cope
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:54:48 UTC No. 15890532
>>15890385
>His hobbies include charging interest and destroying host civilizations.
I can't believe that left that in!
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:56:01 UTC No. 15890536
>>15890385
>His hobbies include charging interest and destroying host civilizations.
I can't believe they left that in!
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:02:10 UTC No. 15890546
>>15890526
i can cope with a fuck pig for the astronauts to enjoy on the lunar surface, but why send a monkey? we are going backward from human spaceflight.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:04:47 UTC No. 15890547
>>15890546
You wont be doing shit off this planet coomer. YWNGTS
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:05:31 UTC No. 15890548
So dearmoon is getting pushed at least 5 years right? Starship has never refuelled in space, it’s never carried passengers, it’s never managed to not explode within 5 minutes of flight. And it was supposed to be flying THIS YEAR.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:06:16 UTC No. 15890549
>>15890546
victor glover is based
it's actually a fucking shame he's on artemis ii, because that virtually guarantees no future moon LANDING opportunity for him
glover deserves to land on the moon more than any other candidate, and that has nothing to do with his skin color. nasa once again manages to be as infuriating as possible by picking the only black man that is so obviously NOT just a diversity hire, and then sticking him on a flyby mission insead of boots on regolith.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:06:55 UTC No. 15890551
>>15890518
read the post I didn't reply to, dumbass
not trolling at all
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:07:56 UTC No. 15890554
>>15890551
>>15890518
oops,
as usual the retard was me
off to do a quick suicide or two
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:10:00 UTC No. 15890558
>>15890365
But you’re the one who’s coping. Why are you saying cope?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:10:42 UTC No. 15890560
>>15890501
no anon, you are being religious about it
you aren't allowed to have a belief or goal that's not centred around hedonism for all
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:15:32 UTC No. 15890569
>>15890549
I mostly hate nigger but i agree with this anon’s sentiment, he’s one of the new astronauts that really does seem competent and refuses to play along with the le diversity spiel whenever it’s brought up.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:17:34 UTC No. 15890573
>>15890549
He'll retire and join SpaceX as a starship captain
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:22:34 UTC No. 15890582
>>15890577
2 working weeks.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:27:07 UTC No. 15890587
We did it, baldbros
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:27:28 UTC No. 15890588
>>15890200
>based
We're going to chop it up and bring it back down on Starship
Hang it up in a big hangar somewhere in Florida or Texas with a shitty replica of the Russian segment instead of the real thing
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:32:56 UTC No. 15890594
I for one am ready to start stanning Bezos after BO finally reaches orbit
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:33:52 UTC No. 15890596
>>15890573
Its better this way.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:34:08 UTC No. 15890597
>>15888837
Why so cross, anon?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:35:28 UTC No. 15890599
>>15890594
I will continue to tell you to kill yourself. Fucking hell you niggers just can never get enough of le Felongated Huskrat bad can you. You can stay forever in LEO while we're on a Mars, Ceres, Callisto and Titan.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:35:32 UTC No. 15890600
>>15890367
Their souls are weighed down by gravity
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:36:47 UTC No. 15890601
***B R E A K I N G***
Potential New Glenn first stage flight hardware spotted outside at @blueorigin’s campus near the Kennedy Space Center.
This looks to be the LNG/LOx tank section of the first stage - now sporting a much anticipated livery.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:38:47 UTC No. 15890607
>>15890601
Nobody cares about your inefficient Falcon 9 ripoff, its a decade too late. Back to Starship!
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:40:00 UTC No. 15890610
>>15890594
Its promising that Bezos got rid of the old CEO and seems to be hands on, and the fact that he has a deadline for those Mars cubesats.
The thing thats very unpromising is that in BO promotional marerial they cosntantly say that it will take many generations to start exploiting the resources of space, so in other words the company line is to have zero ambition.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:40:10 UTC No. 15890611
>>15890075
>default MS office colors
Based, especially if made in powerpoint
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:40:13 UTC No. 15890612
>>15890548
where do you get 5 years? They can do dearmoon whenever the HLS life support systems and orbital refilling are ready, don't even have to wait for NASA with SLS (but I would think they will wait to do it after Artemis 2 just not to piss off NASA)
don't need to wait for a launch window for the moon for 26 months
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:41:01 UTC No. 15890613
>>15890607
>inefficient
its more efficient than Falcon anon
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:41:43 UTC No. 15890616
>>15890548
dearmoon is years away, obviously. Starship would have to be rated to launch humans and reenter at lunar velocities. A Starship flyby is only marginally easier than a Starship exclusive lunar landing (assuming they've already figured out the kinks with HLS): you just don't need to fuel it up all the way.
The only way it happens within the next 5 years is if they use HLS and do some weird Artemis-style boarding/unboarding in LEO. But that would be wildly inefficient and at that point they might as well get Dragon/Falcon Heavy certified and do a landing.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:47:18 UTC No. 15890630
>>15890616
dearmoon comes after isaacman's fight and tito's flight anyway
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:48:15 UTC No. 15890632
>>15890616
Its hilarious how Elon swindled that Japanese idiot so hard and got him to invest billions into starship. wht did he even say to him? lmao.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:49:30 UTC No. 15890636
>>15890632
>dropping billions to help get you a ride around the moon
worth
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:50:55 UTC No. 15890642
>>15890577
holy fucking shit musk get shit on
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:58:16 UTC No. 15890654
>>15890630
Isn't Tito dead?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:58:33 UTC No. 15890655
>>15890636
The flight was initially slated for falcon heavy but Elon grifted hard and got the guy to invest billions in delaying his own flight by a decade lol
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:59:25 UTC No. 15890658
>>15890654
nah but hes pretty old
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:00:07 UTC No. 15890659
>>15890658
I'm pretty sure he's dead.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:01:15 UTC No. 15890663
>>15890659
wrong tito, im talking about dennis tito, the first space tourist
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:02:25 UTC No. 15890665
>>15890663
tito led yugoslavia anon...
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:05:27 UTC No. 15890676
>>15890672
is this cheating?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:05:55 UTC No. 15890683
>>15890672
they've done a dozen videos about this by now
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:06:46 UTC No. 15890686
>>15890676
>bum to biker transition
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:07:10 UTC No. 15890688
>>15890676
why does that mother fucker look like a seal? and for some reason i get the impression he loves eating pussy and will get throat cancer from it
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:08:33 UTC No. 15890691
>>15890680
how soon?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:09:51 UTC No. 15890695
>>15890691
1 fortnight
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:09:52 UTC No. 15890696
>>15890685
>i know the future broooo listen to me, im expressing confidence
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:11:02 UTC No. 15890699
>>15890676
I kinda want that sweater
is there any way for me to legally acquire one without giving any money, even indirectly, to NSF?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:12:29 UTC No. 15890703
>>15890699
Yes, DIY.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:13:46 UTC No. 15890705
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:15:18 UTC No. 15890710
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:16:57 UTC No. 15890715
>>15890710
video speculates that the 4 ships might be necessary to have for launches during possible factory downtime while production changes from tent based (pic) to starfactory based (next reply)
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:18:00 UTC No. 15890716
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:30:16 UTC No. 15890741
>>15890676
pussy destroyer.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:33:25 UTC No. 15890747
>>15889140
You do know he'll just put the baby on the deck and take a picture with his own feet in the frame. Just like how /k/ shows their guns.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:39:14 UTC No. 15890755
>>15889961
Just get the people who planned Black Buck to work for SpaceX.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:45:04 UTC No. 15890762
>new glenn is 7m
it looks half that
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:45:47 UTC No. 15890763
>>15890200
>boomers leaving a pile of garbage to new generations because they can't let go
>they "worked hard" so that justifies everything
very cringe
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:46:06 UTC No. 15890764
>>15890385
>Weinersmith
I'm not surprised he is.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:49:16 UTC No. 15890770
>>15889198
>For All Mankind S4 E10
>After Happy Valley gets destroyed by an illegal alcohol still explosion
>Survivors, guided by an angry suitless Ed Baldwin meet the evac point only to meet the 6 Nations Mars Colony, founded in secret by launching Martian "probes" supposed to promote Goldenpalace.com 10 years before.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:50:53 UTC No. 15890775
>>15890430
just mine the atmosphere
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:52:12 UTC No. 15890780
>>15890762
That's because it is
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 22:54:01 UTC No. 15890782
>>15890528
The quote is still true, unless you think orbital dynamics has been disproven. L2 doesn't collect debris. The impacts are not orbiting L2, they are in solar orbit.
>you can see the panel yourself in >>15890344, motors are already getting slow enough to skew observation error
The actuators are only used perodically, every few weeks. Tthey don't run during obervations. Nothing is getting slower. In fact they have to align it less and less, it is far more stable thermally than required.
> best JWST this could do after it's exhausted
"Note that it wouldn't cease to be useful even if it was degraded that far."
Also note that Hubble has never been in spec. They never fixed the faulty primary, only designed instuments to largely correct. The actual spherical aberation requirement was never met. Being out of spec does not make something instantly useless.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:00:00 UTC No. 15890792
https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/s
> NEWS: ARK Invest has released their @SpaceX investment thesis.
>"ARK believes SpaceX has no competitor capable of rocket reusability; All-in, we believe that the satellite connectivity market could approach $100 billion annually over the medium term, and Starlink is well-placed to win the lion’s share given their unique positioning; If Starship is successful in achieving rapid reusability, ARK’s research suggests there should be a $270 billion annual revenue opportunity for point-to-point transportation."
https://ark-ventures.com/commentary
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:07:46 UTC No. 15890806
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:07:56 UTC No. 15890807
>>15890792
>ARK’s research suggests there should be a $270 billion annual revenue opportunity for point-to-point transportation.
I don't have a reaction pic for this.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:09:25 UTC No. 15890810
>>15890806
>>15890807
yes that seems kind of insane, but I didn't bother to check the current long-flight airplane industry revenues
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:10:27 UTC No. 15890813
>>15890807
NORAD radar operator dying inside.jpg
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:10:30 UTC No. 15890814
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:13:02 UTC No. 15890821
>>15890813
Sergeant, this man has been infested by the goold. Take him to holding on Level 28.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:14:08 UTC No. 15890825
>>15890792
>>15890807
https://www.statista.com/statistics
airline revenue in total is about 800B, 270B would be about 33% of that so I think the 270 is simply long-haul airline TAM (total addressable market) as they talk about the "opportunity", not that SpaceX would necessarily capture all of it themselves
even assuming that they stayed the only company with the necessary tech for like 10 years (not that much of a stretch), you would still have problems with launch sites and landing sites and whatever, but I guess if you launched just off coasts that would still save a lot of time compared to long-haul flights that fly over oceans
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:14:33 UTC No. 15890826
>>15890825
What happened in 2020?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:16:07 UTC No. 15890831
>>15890826
gremlins destroyed half of the airplanes in the world and it took a while to fix them
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:16:09 UTC No. 15890833
>>15890792
These people are fucking insane
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:17:07 UTC No. 15890834
>>15890792
Shit. ARK being bullish is negative news for SpaceX
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:17:32 UTC No. 15890836
>>15890826
Two Boeings started crashing
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:19:17 UTC No. 15890840
>>15890833
satellite connectivity market being 100 bil per year isn't that far fetched when you add all the freight ships and other commercial ships in the world + all airplanes and these pay a premium
and providing starlink for 10$ per month in the developing world is still a lot of money as there are a lot of people in these countries
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:20:48 UTC No. 15890846
>>15890601
>>15890342
https://twitter.com/Phrankensteyn/s
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:21:12 UTC No. 15890849
>>15890792
even at half those numbers, spacex would be pulling in $185 billion a year before getting into actual revenue from launching things into space
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:21:54 UTC No. 15890851
>>15890846
fuck
> Remember this from the 2018 manual? Here, I concluded that the first stage might be capable of holding ~1.2 kt prop. @_mgde_
's picture supports this. Total rocket mass at reasonable values then is ~1.56 kt -> At about 1.71 ktf thrust, that's a TWR of 1.1. I don't believe it...
> -> BE-4 uprating expected (AND possible!).
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:22:00 UTC No. 15890852
>>15890792
>ARK’s research suggests there should be a $270 billion annual revenue opportunity for point-to-point transportation."
Batshit retarded lmao. 100b is a reasonable top end market cap for satellite comms though.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:24:42 UTC No. 15890856
>>15890840
That's not what I'm shitting my pants over. it's the 270 billion point to point revenue that is buttfucking retarded. I got diarrhea comin outta my asshole
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:25:00 UTC No. 15890857
>>15890849
point-to-point is speculative at this point, but it would be nice, they could really ramp up spamming rockets to mars with the additional revenue from that
starlink is going to be a massive cashcow though, I remember Musk (or Gwynne Shotwell or perhaps some random SpaceX report) saying that they expected 30 bil from starlink a year
has anybody seen some theoretical cash burn rates for a mars colony buildup anywhere? How much is needed?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:27:10 UTC No. 15890864
>>15890857
If you can't do it with tens of billions a year in revenue then it's never happening. But I'm pretty fucking sure you can.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:27:25 UTC No. 15890865
>>15890846
>Blue Origin says theyre gonna do something
>They do it— no bullshit hype, no messing around
>It looks exactly like the renders
>It will deliver on all its promises
The polar opposite of some other company I know
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:28:21 UTC No. 15890869
>>15890857
the colonists will be paying for the colony
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:28:30 UTC No. 15890870
>>15890834
It'll never go public so they can keep dreaming
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:30:12 UTC No. 15890873
>>15890857
point to point is gonna get mogged as energy prices continue to plummet and supersonic aircraft come online. Q* predicted it. US military and the people of Haiti will appreciate p2p tho
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:31:20 UTC No. 15890875
being a public company is a death sentence now. just look at whats happening to all of these big internet websites. starlink should probably stay private for a long time, maybe always.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:31:45 UTC No. 15890877
>>15890869
that is not sustainable at all, you need big initial investments to get it up and running
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:32:04 UTC No. 15890878
>>15890601
Fucking finally.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:32:45 UTC No. 15890879
>>15890865
I want to them fucking launch
please just do something jesus
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:33:04 UTC No. 15890880
>>15890857
Point to Point is one of those things that just isn't going to happen outside of maybe time critical delivery of military shit. There is just no way you are getting passengers to get into a giant stick of fiery doom that accelerates and decelerates at multiple g's.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:35:19 UTC No. 15890882
>>15890870
SpaceX is already in their Venture fund portfolio, though the fund seems to have a shitload of other random shit as well, SpaceX is probably a tiny portion overall
it doesn't need to be public to be in a fund
> We offer our view of SpaceX because it is part of the total ARK Venture Fund portfolio. To see the most updated portfolio, please click here.
https://ark-ventures.com/portfolio/
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:35:22 UTC No. 15890883
>>15890880
people never expected spaceships to be captured on chopsticks
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:35:22 UTC No. 15890884
>>15890875
we will see if starlink is a viable business or a meme op very soon. If Starlink goes public its 100% so SpaceX can dump a loss on investors at IPO. it will never go public if its actually viable and profitable.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:35:54 UTC No. 15890885
>>15890879
I will honestly take back everything i ever said about that bald son of a bitch if blue origo rises up and joins forces with elon to kill ula and boeing and SLS and China
COME ON BLUE YOU GOOD DOG YOU
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:36:23 UTC No. 15890886
>>15890867
its called BLUE engine 4. what do you think, retard??
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:36:29 UTC No. 15890887
>>15890873
supersonic aircraft would still be slower no?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:36:41 UTC No. 15890889
>>15890851
As long as it's greater than 1.0 it'll still work, and there's no reason to say they have to fill the tanks all the way. With Blue Origin being as opaque as they are it's really hard to say anything about New Glenn's performance details with any certainty.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:40:48 UTC No. 15890893
>>15890887
Yes, but it has the potential to be leagues more economical. not to mention overland flight will be allowed since the sonic booms are muted. No getting around starship booms
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:41:34 UTC No. 15890894
>>15890893
starship aint in the air retard colossal faggot.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:46:23 UTC No. 15890896
>>15890884
lol thats not how it works
Tesla is public and profitable
SpaceX taking a profitable Starlink public would depend on if they have enough cashflow already to fund all near term development
if they do, it makes no sense to IPO it
if they need a lot of capital quickly then IPOing makes sense (lets say it would take like 5 years to get the same capital from cashflows from operations)
not having enough capital could be due to not able to raise cash from investors from one reason or another (lets say Starship had detonated on the launchpad, Starship development went slower and didn't progress for some reason, they couldn't have fixed Raptor reliability or whatever), then perhaps it would have made sense to IPO starlink and thus sell part of it to keep funding Starship but also keep most of it for future cashflows
it seems like that they are able to raise capital easily enough, so IPOing starlink doens't really make that much sense, but saying the only reason to IPO starlink would be if Starlink itself is not going well is bullshit, there are reasons completely independent of Starlink
and again, when they IPO it doesn't mean they have to sell all of it, SpaceX could keep a big chunk (I think)
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:47:25 UTC No. 15890897
>>15890893
Starship is going to be loud only at the launch point and entry points
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:49:47 UTC No. 15890900
>>15890659
Tito broz I don't feel so good
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:52:19 UTC No. 15890901
>>15890691
1.2 Ms
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:55:01 UTC No. 15890904
>>15890894
Actually it is
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:55:20 UTC No. 15890905
>>15890699
3D print it
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Nov 2023 23:56:02 UTC No. 15890906
>>15890896
>Tesla is public and profitable
Are you retarded?
Tesla went public because Elon was broke and couldnt raise additional venture capital privatly. If he was rich at that time Tesla would be private today.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:01:13 UTC No. 15890914
>>15890897
Wrong. You will hear booms over a thousand miles as starship reenters.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:01:49 UTC No. 15890916
>>15890906
you are saying IPOs mean the company is going to be a "loss" or whatever retarded and unviable
absolutely retarded
raising money privately vs raising money through a IPO is still raising money and SpaceX has been raising money privately every so often
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:02:01 UTC No. 15890917
>>15890896
Taking starlink public would be a fucking disaster. Schlomo would scoop up big shares and relentlessly sue Elon if he tried to use profits for Mars. (((Fiduciary responsibility))) is the most fucking insane Jewish horseshit ever and I hope that the (((dodge brothers))) are screaming in hell.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:05:22 UTC No. 15890924
>>15890917
yeah I hope they don't do it for the sake of SpaceX and the mars colony and I doubt they will because they seem to be able to raise through private rounds adequately, starlink itself is also starting to generate a lot of revenue
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:06:52 UTC No. 15890925
>>15890916
In one case, you choose your investors. And in one case you dont. You stupid fucking ass-sucking shitcock
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:08:07 UTC No. 15890927
>>15890917
Yup
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:08:20 UTC No. 15890928
>>15890925
yes, but your initial post was about IPOing companies being nonviable
that is absolutely retarded
IPOing being worse for control is a different subject altogether
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:08:26 UTC No. 15890930
>>15888995
wow, that Handmer article was excellent. I think the coolest things I learned are in comparison to our glorious past. For example, how high-tech was done in in the 50's and 60's:
"Kelly Johnson and his team at Skunk Works designed and built the A-12 (SR-71 Blackbird precursor) in about 28 months with a crew of 25 engineers and fewer than 50 technicians, no computers, no analysis, just sliderules and nicotine. And they had to invent stealth tech, computerized celestial navigation, and titanium metallurgy at the same time. " So the A-12 took 2000 person-years to be built, including lots of novel technical discoveries. Big projects nowadays take hugely longer.
I work in a big tech company. Whenever I see a 10,000 person organization, I always think about how much they could do if they were effectively managed (and could jettison all the dead weight). From the little government work I've done, I can imagine the waste on their side is far worse.
Another choice Handmer quote:
"The solution is to discover what is preventing fast action and fix it. NASA as an organization has now, for some time, been teetering on the brink of total institutional incapacity and COVID, in some ways, pushed it over the brink. The US built the world’s first nuclear submarine, including the world’s first nuclear power plant with controlled fission, in about three years. Until we ask “Why is stuff so slow and expensive at NASA?” we will never get to the root of the problem. The answer to this question is that NASA’s behavior perfectly reflects its incentives."
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:09:18 UTC No. 15890931
>>15890928
actually I'm a different anon, I just needed to fight you
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:10:24 UTC No. 15890932
>>15889889
based, filter out those obvious NPCs
and let the other NPCs seethe harder
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:12:11 UTC No. 15890935
>>15890930
I've heard this idea called the Competence Crisis, and it is worrying in other places too. I think this is one of the reason's Elon is so intent on going to Mars, and fast.
Article:
Complex Systems Won’t Survive the Competence Crisis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/0
And also this youtube video about the failure of the South African state (and especially its power grid): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iin
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:12:36 UTC No. 15890936
>>15890916
Tesla was making MASSIVE losses for a decade before it started turning a profit, thats why they went public anon
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:13:48 UTC No. 15890937
>>15890930
I wonder how much of this is because of affirmative action and how much is just general bureucratic stagnation and rot
Aerospace probably wasn't too sexy of a field before SpaceX re-invigorated it recently and most of the best talent just went to tech
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:15:18 UTC No. 15890940
>>15889102
would sending a starship loaded with scientific instruments to venus not be a huge opportunity then? why is this not shilled?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:15:54 UTC No. 15890942
>>15890935
South African decline is basically purely due to affirmative action and the following mismanagement, incompetence and corruption
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:17:25 UTC No. 15890944
>>15890936
nope, that isn't why they went public
they went public to grow faster, they were having losses because they were growing fast and could have slowed down to show profits (which they did at times), but that would have meant much smaller profits in the long term due to slower growth
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:19:33 UTC No. 15890947
>>15890893
>>15890897
>>15890914
Retards, this chart is available in every environmental review for a Starship launch
Yellow is rough and people are going to notice green
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:20:45 UTC No. 15890948
>>15890947
i guess P2p only works in florida then. Bros how do we squeeze 270 billion out of this?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:22:38 UTC No. 15890950
>>15890947
who cares if people notice it lmao
people notice run of the mill airplanes too
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:24:01 UTC No. 15890951
>>15890826
People suddenly developed the ability to fly unaided. It was pretty big news.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:26:36 UTC No. 15890956
>>15890944
lets roll back to spacex. in a modern context where spacex does not suffer from lack of willing venture capitalists and starlink ahs the potential to be a cash cow allegedly, why would they IPO for a short term cash influx but long term smaller share of profits?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:30:24 UTC No. 15890963
Why are you so angry
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:31:35 UTC No. 15890966
>>15890956
they wouldn't of course, other than perhaps initial seed investors in SpaceX wanting an exit
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:33:05 UTC No. 15890970
>>15890963
I enjoy it.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:43:49 UTC No. 15890984
>>15889498
Apollo 12 thunderstorm launch
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:53:20 UTC No. 15890996
>>15889392
okay m8
https://youtu.be/GtfgBBQTpxA?si=Qye
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:53:26 UTC No. 15890997
ITS SO OVER.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:54:43 UTC No. 15890999
>>15890810
>oversize load
that's a lot of cum
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:59:33 UTC No. 15891008
>>15890947
That's for a full stack. Obviously 33 engines is going to be way more intense.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 01:00:22 UTC No. 15891010
>>15891008
That's reentry
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 01:12:28 UTC No. 15891028
>>15891010
no its not, its for launch.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 01:13:58 UTC No. 15891029
>>15890994
i need to fuk her. suck tities
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 01:14:14 UTC No. 15891030
>>15891028
Launch is mostly circular with a weird flared bit on the ocean side, and doesn't have the huge tail extending over the entire gulf of Mexico
Let me go find it
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 01:33:10 UTC No. 15891043
>>15890691
Two weeks unironically
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 01:51:30 UTC No. 15891054
the only reason all 33 engines were firing was because spacex was inhibiting the fail safes. they were firing fucked engines but did it anyway bc they knew how bad it would look to investors to shut any down
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:02:42 UTC No. 15891077
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:09:25 UTC No. 15891084
>>15890610
The problem is that he's right. There is no economic case to made for any activity going on past geostationary orbit. That'll change eventually but those variables shifting can't be anything other than a generational process.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:09:31 UTC No. 15891085
>>15891077
oh no no no bezossisters
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:14:56 UTC No. 15891088
>>15891054
Anon if the engines were truly fucked it would have been visible in the exhaust. They clearly just got cucked by fluid dynamics when hot staging killed the boosters speed.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:23:35 UTC No. 15891094
>>15891077
I think about this so often
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:26:26 UTC No. 15891099
>>15891084
but I want my heckin Mars base like in Marvel!
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:44:18 UTC No. 15891117
>>15890143
"A woman-led team discovered phosphine signatures on Venus.
You might disagree. You might even have some evidence to the contrary. But you have to ask yourself: is this really worth losing my job over?
A woman-led team discovered phosphine signature on Venus."
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:50:39 UTC No. 15891124
>>15890792
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:03:05 UTC No. 15891139
>>15891088
Yeah but let's play devil's advocate here. First launch of fucked engine looks ok to the tankwatcher. land and launch it again, i say. launch 3 times a day, i say. the fact that it "looked" ok doesnt mean shit for one launch. how bout a thousand launches
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:03:05 UTC No. 15891140
>>15891116
we told you a hundred times
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:05:02 UTC No. 15891141
>>15891094
it's a meme, but what if they are secretly on the cusp of completing all of them
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:07:54 UTC No. 15891144
>>15890857
You retards they arent talking about point-to-point on Earth. THEY MEAN ON MARS HOLY SHIT
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:09:56 UTC No. 15891146
>>15891054
>source: it confirms my prejudices
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:12:28 UTC No. 15891149
>>15891146
you are prejudiced in favor of spacex
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:15:29 UTC No. 15891155
>>15890792
>ARK believes SpaceX has no competitor capable of rocket reusability
Spacex has no legitimate competition in the launch market, period
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:20:30 UTC No. 15891164
>>15891149
SpaceX could cancel Starship completely and still be 10 years ahead of every launch company/country.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:30:22 UTC No. 15891172
>>15890155
John Michael Godier too while we're at it
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:36:12 UTC No. 15891177
>>15891154
>I don't understand this reusable flame diverter meme
on an unrelated note, why does it look so much like wood? the rust gives it the same color as cedar, sure; but there's even an end grain and the ablated region looks like scorched or burnt wood
what if the alabama river rocks grift extended to non-reusable wooden pad infrastructure - fucking california launch tower lumber and ohio forestry service flame diverter timber. imagine the pork
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:46:16 UTC No. 15891188
>>15891177
>wood
it looks like bricks to me
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:49:02 UTC No. 15891193
>>15891177
you really really need to take your meds
if you don't have meds see a doctor ASAP
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:51:13 UTC No. 15891195
>>15891172
fuck this guy
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:54:40 UTC No. 15891200
ive been farting and eating goldfish crackers all day and now on my second serving of pizza rolls. god i hope i can go to mars eventually
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:54:51 UTC No. 15891201
>>15891116
dude. Where have you been? They were the first to get a methane rocket into orbit this year!
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 04:16:06 UTC No. 15891224
>>15891162
Neutron basically, but way better
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 04:17:50 UTC No. 15891228
Time for another starlink
SpaceX Stream
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1O
Spaceflight Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0
NSF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Y
Clear
???
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 04:21:26 UTC No. 15891234
Max-Qute!
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 04:32:30 UTC No. 15891239
What if we aerobrake in the extreme upper atmosphere of Uranus? Then we reach Uranus in record time, and proceed to explore Uranus for extended periods.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 05:07:03 UTC No. 15891268
>>15891239
what if i aerobraked my payload into your mothers uranus
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 05:15:28 UTC No. 15891271
>>15889929
they will progress implessively as soon as the biden admin has finished enforcing immigrant hiring policies on spacex through lawfare
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 05:15:57 UTC No. 15891273
>>15891228
with this launch, Falcon 9 has caught up with Thor and classic Atlas as the most used US launch family at 274 launches, and will take the lead in a couple days with the Korean milsat launch.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 05:17:40 UTC No. 15891275
I hope SpaceX R&D is working on a way to destabilize Mercury and send it on a path to hit Earth.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 05:54:42 UTC No. 15891295
>>15890857
>How much is needed?
3
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 05:58:34 UTC No. 15891298
>>15891077
I need this with the captions replaced with "empty warehouse", "suborbital rocket", "decades without progress", "cardboard mockup", etc
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 05:59:38 UTC No. 15891300
>>15891154
it's not that easy in deflectory
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 06:00:57 UTC No. 15891303
>>15891195
no, thank you
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 06:04:36 UTC No. 15891306
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 06:20:08 UTC No. 15891318
>>15891275
I hope SpaceX R&D is working on a way to move Mercury closer to the Sun to make it tidally locked.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 06:40:11 UTC No. 15891346
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 07:07:03 UTC No. 15891383
>>15891054
>if you turn the engines on, you lose
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 07:13:00 UTC No. 15891393
>>15890577
ok, but where are the actual engines?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 07:20:29 UTC No. 15891405
>>15891393
on vulcan
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 07:36:51 UTC No. 15891431
>>15891154
absolutely BTFO by bidetCHADS
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 07:38:02 UTC No. 15891434
>>15891172
Is this fuck still harping on about UAPs and ayy lamos?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 08:25:37 UTC No. 15891490
>>15891431
using a trench is just so uncivilized.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 08:43:45 UTC No. 15891511
>>15891154
So for ultimate reusable launch pad you would need deluge combined with flame trench?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 08:51:43 UTC No. 15891520
>>15891154
How is this an issue? It's literally just steel plates.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:05:33 UTC No. 15891531
>>15891154
I'm honestly not convinced that a deluge is cheaper, considering the metal plate ablates.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:22:42 UTC No. 15891551
>>15891054
> how bad it would look to investors to shut any down
you mean musk? besides him there are only a handful of close buddies who resign any decision making of their shares for a chance at risk venture. Revenue wise capturing the overwhelming majority of commercial launches+ starlink revenue they are set even without gov contracts
you are talking out of your ass its so painfully obvious
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:26:48 UTC No. 15891554
>>15890324
I wonder what the sunshield looks by now
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:28:19 UTC No. 15891555
>>15891551
it's just a bait post, chill out
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:29:14 UTC No. 15891556
>>15890344
At least we don't have to worry about refueling now.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:32:34 UTC No. 15891559
>>15890398
why do you think they never tried to even reproduce bugs in space?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:33:46 UTC No. 15891562
>>15890900
Bros, Yugoslavia is breaking up...
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:34:13 UTC No. 15891563
>>15890867
From what I undestand, they're running pretty fuel rich. Expect a lot of orange in the plooom.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:40:18 UTC No. 15891571
>>15891434
Yeah that's his side grift on his Event Horizon channel
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:46:22 UTC No. 15891576
>>15890398
Dick can't get hard in less than 1G
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:47:56 UTC No. 15891578
>>15891172
mfw i have fallen into Event Horizon, with John Michael Godier
https://youtu.be/33aPPLPX2RY
Newest episode is up! Robert Zubrin
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:49:05 UTC No. 15891580
>>15891576
watch me
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:54:35 UTC No. 15891586
>>15891576
When are we going to get some rando billionaire going to space and straight up saying "I am going to ejaculate in space for science and no one will stop me."
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:55:56 UTC No. 15891587
>>15891586
when dearmoon flies
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:57:54 UTC No. 15891588
>>15891586
Space is a serious business
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:58:10 UTC No. 15891590
>>15891586
astronauts are fucking liars
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:19:49 UTC No. 15891606
>>15891586
Nobody has cum in space not because nobody thought about it but because it is extremely painful
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:30:12 UTC No. 15891615
>>15891606
if I pull you off will you die?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:36:44 UTC No. 15891620
>>15891578
>Newest episode is up! Robert Zubrin
Great! Two grifters
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:38:44 UTC No. 15891624
>>15891531
>replacing expendable metal plates every few launches is cheaper than a reusable deluge system
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:40:22 UTC No. 15891625
>send popular e-thot and guy to space
>condoms/viagra/dick pump
>stream it live
>charge 20 bucks
>????
>profit
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:41:47 UTC No. 15891626
>>15891624
>>15891300
>>15891511
>>15891520
Are you all clinically braindead?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:44:35 UTC No. 15891628
>>15891625
>stream it live
Only on X
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:01:26 UTC No. 15891645
>>15891586
my manhood did not greet me with energy dot jpg
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:10:56 UTC No. 15891652
when's the next launch, faglords?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:15:26 UTC No. 15891656
In conventional design crewed capsules like Orion and the Apollo command module, how do the service modules interact with the capsule when there is a heat shield in the way?
and what are the practical differences between Starliner (made by boing) and Orion (made by locksneed) ?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:22:18 UTC No. 15891658
>>15891628
do you think elon would subsidize the launch if i made it X exclusive?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:25:50 UTC No. 15891664
>>15891625
the thing that shocks me is that they sent hookers to space dozens of times on space shuttle and never thought to pay them for their work.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:27:55 UTC No. 15891666
>>15891656
There's a latch that connects around the heatshield (the thing on the right)
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 11:46:01 UTC No. 15891679
>>15890873
Q*?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 12:00:59 UTC No. 15891690
Well Musk Sisters, who is going to be first to ride the back flipping self destructing rocket to hell....ugh I mean Mars?
Isn't it a delicious example of Doublethink to call it a “rapid unscheduled disassembly"...then at the same time say you never expected it to succeed aka, it was supposed to blow up. So if you expected Starship to blow up....how was it unscheduled? Didn't you literally schedule the launch expecting it to disassemble in mid flight at some point....or no? Make up your mind Musk Cultists!
KEK
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 12:20:30 UTC No. 15891710
>>15891690
kek the image
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 12:22:08 UTC No. 15891711
Someone stage
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 12:25:35 UTC No. 15891714
Thread has staged.
Ignition:
>>15891713
>>15891713
>>15891713
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:26:56 UTC No. 15891784
>>15891559
There were plans to start testing with lower organisms but the production of potentially viable offspring raises serious ethical concerns in an experimental nigger breeding program.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:28:17 UTC No. 15891785
>>15891615
for you
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:34:25 UTC No. 15891790
>>15888556
Only way the west dies is if it kills itself (which shitlibs are trying very hard to do)
>>15888568
It might also give them the demand to build reusable rockets, as then the political and economic reality will align
>>15888851
Colonization is cool, europe returning to it's roots, shame they don't have a launch system (A6 is a meme)
>>15889062
>>15889072
That and starship eliminates risk -> More DV, shorter mission times, less time for shit to go wrong
Cheap DV, becomes possible to launch 2 probes + for the price of a ULA launch, risk falls again. So on and so forth.
>>15889086
Basically "managers" running the show when it should have really been engineers doing the engineering deciscions.
>>15889222
SpaceX clearly doomed to fail, F9 will never fly
>>15889889
Filter out the retards
>>15889896
Pajeets seethe
>>15890200
We should bring down chunks of it, and service hubble while we are there
>>15890367
It would suck, but in the same way that colonizing america sucked, worth it in the end.
>>15890851
Christ she's girthy, took them long enough, but looking forward to see it fly
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:35:53 UTC No. 15891791
>>15891664
anon that was a teacher not a hooker
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:36:34 UTC No. 15891792
>>15891790
this thread staged bub
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:40:56 UTC No. 15891796
>>15891792
okay, I'll make sure not to post in this one
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:41:58 UTC No. 15891798
>>15891796
good plan! me, too
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:42:56 UTC No. 15891801
>>15891792
Yes But I am retarded and didn't scroll down to check before I wrote it
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:46:38 UTC No. 15891807
>>15891801
that's okay. just don't keep posting here
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:57:44 UTC No. 15891820
>>15891792
Thanks for the reminder
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:58:45 UTC No. 15891822
>>15891792
link?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:08:05 UTC No. 15891836
Does anyone know if the thread has staged or not?
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:32:16 UTC No. 15891872
>>15891870
It's fart gas
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:58:39 UTC No. 15891907
>>15891870
Copper, ie running engine rich.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:34:02 UTC No. 15891943
Does this man really believe his own Mars BS? I keep hearing that he is smart and all... Is this a case of self delusion? (unless we have been lied about the martian environment)
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:35:42 UTC No. 15891944
>>15891943
He farts.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:51:07 UTC No. 15891963
>>15891870
imagine the smell