🗑️ 🧵 Science of community management and jannies
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:40:13 UTC No. 16081340
Okay jannies we get it. Clearly, for some unstated reason, board relevant posts about the state of the board are verboten (post refs for archive seekers needing context >>16080429 >>16071764). I'll start one of my own that's entirely within the realm of discourse you have all established as acceptable, as demonstrated by the anti-science /xpol/ posting you chronically allow despite blatant rule violations with mere superficial associations to science with taglines such as "scientific reasons for [bait]". With a bit of a twist: There actually are papers on community management and evaluating means/methods for dealing with and defining trolls. In other words, unlike the chronic rule-breaking posts you allow, this post is even on topic.
Discuss the scientific reasons jannies refuse to enforce even basic rules but jump at the chance to delete board relevant threads whenever it's critical of general site failures to do the bare fucking minimum.
And of course research on digital community management, dealing with trolling and what constitutes trolling, developing communities of learning and science online. Look I even attached a relevant PDF! https://www.researchgate.net/public
Naturally as part of this discussion we can contrast the current abysmal state of /sci/ with best practices. Or, frankly, "literally anything but the epitome of the worst example" (i.e. the jannies here). Probably the most conceptually and evidently flawed, facially, is allowing anti-science shilling on a science board.
Discuss.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:44:48 UTC No. 16081351
>>16081340
Part of the issue that most of the jannies have no interest in the board itself, meaning they don't care about it's overall state of well being, all that jannies care about is the joy of having power for the first time in their sad, pathetic lives.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:45:25 UTC No. 16081353
>>16081340
Whups copyfailed the second one without noticing. Serves me right for not proofreading. this is the proper ref >>16072269.
sorry frens
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 16:47:35 UTC No. 16081457
>>16081351
>all that jannies care about is the joy of having power for the first time in their sad, pathetic lives.
I doubt it's quite that simple. Even in evaluations of managerial narcissism that doesn't appear to be the driving modus operandi.
Either way there are proposed evaluations of what makes communities better vs worse and absentee landlords as a general rule are not considered better. https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/1
You can go too far either way, as ought surprise no one. The interesting thing is evaluating another website like reddit suggests a massive disconnect between the jannies there and those here, where reddit overlords want more control and the ones here ostensibly don't want to do anything but delete criticism of themselves.
... Hm. Maybe they're not so different after all. The irony.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 02:05:01 UTC No. 16082330
How the jannies manage this board is strange. They *are* active here. They regularly will remove particularly egregious replies.
However, they seem to refuse to do the same with threads. Take how there are, even with an incredibly generous definition of what is considered on-topic, there are three offtopic threads up right now, one of which has been up for a week.
>>16081691
>>16079617
>>16066141
This seems to be suggestive of either a lack of ability or will to remove threads in the first place. From the previous thread, it seems to be the latter, but that doesn't explain why they try to keep replies relatively clean.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 02:07:18 UTC No. 16082334
>>16082330
I'm lumping higher order moderators with thread removal in the general concept of jannies, to be clear, since it doesn't matter to me either way as it amounts to the same general failure regardless of where in that chain people suck ass.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 03:01:51 UTC No. 16082380
>>16081340
Jannies are simply based, period.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 06:54:23 UTC No. 16082624
>>16082380
t. schizoid