🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:01:20 UTC No. 16102667
Omega Centauri Edition
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Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:16:02 UTC No. 16102687
:D spaaaace
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:17:00 UTC No. 16102688
I agree with the previous anon
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:18:23 UTC No. 16102689
I disagree with the previous anon
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:22:50 UTC No. 16102692
mm nyo
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:24:34 UTC No. 16102693
Any gore anons?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:26:01 UTC No. 16102695
>>16102693
Space gore obviously, Challenger and Columbia reenactments, maybe that guy that burnt to a crisp?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:29:00 UTC No. 16102699
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:34:43 UTC No. 16102705
>>16102699
fug
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:48:13 UTC No. 16102727
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:52:08 UTC No. 16102729
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:01:41 UTC No. 16102741
>>16100118
God won't let earth be destroyed, and if he does he wanted it to happen so it's wrong to try to avoid that ending. He said to multiply and replenish the earth, not the fucking universe. For god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, who died for the sins of the world. If you sin off planet Jesus did not die for you and you are doomed to rot in hell. Besides how are you going to pray towards Mecha if your spinning in orbit?
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:03:29 UTC No. 16102742
>>16100118
God won't let earth be destroyed, and if he does he wanted it to happen so it's wrong to try to avoid that ending. He said to multiply and replenish the earth, not the fucking universe. For god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, who died for the sins of the world. If you sin off planet Jesus did not die for you and you are doomed to rot in hell. Besides how are you going to pray towards Mecha if your spinning in orbit?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:04:54 UTC No. 16102743
>>16102693
Joe Lieberman is dead.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:10:32 UTC No. 16102747
>>16102742
Fuck off with that leave that derailment in the other thread. I rushed the thread to page 10 staging so we could start talking about rockets again and SPECIFICALLY avoid that off topic shit.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:11:13 UTC No. 16102748
>>16102742
Precisely coordinated gyroscope prayer rooms that always point at the mecca. More accurate than anything on earth as you can move more freely in 3d space to point directly at it rather than handwaving away the curvature of the planet.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:12:49 UTC No. 16102749
>>16102748
hacking the sandscopes to point at Rome instead
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:14:09 UTC No. 16102753
>>16102748
The Goyim will get their own separate living quarters in that case.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:21:51 UTC No. 16102761
Wow I get here giddy for a new thread and its immediatly ruined. Thanks guys, and thanks janny for being dead.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:23:29 UTC No. 16102764
>>16102747
are you retarded? that never fucking works
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:33:45 UTC No. 16102780
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:35:44 UTC No. 16102784
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:36:40 UTC No. 16102787
>haha bro just pave the planet with solar
>no don't count on Starship making orbital solar/compute launch cheaper than buying land by the square degree that would be silly
Casey is falling into the Tory Bruno trap of shit talking SpaceX to promote his own business.
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:37:45 UTC No. 16102789
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:40:08 UTC No. 16102793
uh-oh shartship bros
this doesn't look good for us >>16102790
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:41:52 UTC No. 16102799
>>16102793
At least wait until it drops a couple pages before you come here to shill your shitty bait thread
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:42:09 UTC No. 16102801
>>16102787
>Casey is falling into the Tory Bruno trap of shit talking SpaceX to promote his own business.
People are very good at not getting things when their livelihood depends on it.
>>16102789
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:44:42 UTC No. 16102805
>>16102801
Does anyone have a webm of Firefly Alpha's tumble and FTS?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:47:44 UTC No. 16102808
Soyuz-2.1b in the arms of Baikonur
In the Kazakh steppe, the gates of the assembly and test building opened at the first ray of the sun and the rocket with Resurs-P No. 4 on board went along the rails to the launch pad.
We are enjoying the atmosphere and waiting for the launch on March 31 at 12:36:45 Moscow time!
And Angara is on a launchpad of Vostochny cosmodrome. Launch April 6-10
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:01:58 UTC No. 16102817
>>16102812
Says fucking who
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:04:03 UTC No. 16102819
>>16102787
casey knows the cost of Starship, land is cheap, you're dumb
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:07:02 UTC No. 16102822
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:11:19 UTC No. 16102829
>>16102819
shut up Crappy Handjob
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:25:08 UTC No. 16102846
>>16102793
oh shi-
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:25:21 UTC No. 16102848
>>16102822
Delete this, it is offensive to my people.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:28:06 UTC No. 16102853
>>16102817
https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/
Remember all the stacking issues they had with IFT-3?
https://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/1
>Improperly built/rebuilt pad sinking into the marshlands
>Second pad being built (rushing this one too)
Can you reply without sounding like an angry muskrat?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:30:07 UTC No. 16102856
>>16102853
They'd just replaced the stabilizer arms on the chopsticks after IFT-2 with new parts; I'm pretty sure they were just dialing the new arm bits in, because the issues did not persist.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:30:59 UTC No. 16102858
>>16102853
>Can you reply without sounding like an angry muskrat?
Yes.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:33:17 UTC No. 16102865
>>16102853
>When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a launchpad on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest launch pad in all of Texas.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:45:19 UTC No. 16102885
>>16102865
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 06:57:31 UTC No. 16102901
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:59:13 UTC No. 16102966
https://twitter.com/pmarca/status/1
On boeings leadership culture, engineers were thought to be fungible, experience overrated
Explains a lot
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:00:35 UTC No. 16102969
>>16102787
The world will be utterly enveloped and it will be fucking glorious
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:03:19 UTC No. 16102971
>>16102853
Are you retarded?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:11:52 UTC No. 16102978
>>16102971
>try not to sound like angry musk fanboy
>fails
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:22:08 UTC No. 16102987
>>16102978
I don't care how I sound like to a retard, what you posted was fucking retarded
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:24:36 UTC No. 16102991
>>16102848
Can you elaborate please?
Who are your people?
This is sad. What happened to the person on the bench?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 10:56:38 UTC No. 16103092
>>16102853
Is there a single proof? All I have seen is useless rambling on xitter or nsf.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:31:40 UTC No. 16103149
>>16103148
It was staged
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:33:12 UTC No. 16103153
>>16103148
>>16103149
This was the most rare shot ever made, probably impossible to replicate. They didnt even know it was gonna launch
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:34:07 UTC No. 16103154
>>16103148
not from a jedi :D
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:36:09 UTC No. 16103159
>>16103153
They did know.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:36:39 UTC No. 16103160
>>16103159
They didnt.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:38:12 UTC No. 16103165
>>16103160
Wrong.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:45:19 UTC No. 16103174
>>16103165
you are wrong.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:47:29 UTC No. 16103175
>>16103159
Who is "they"? because this is a well known fact. it gets posted on Reddit every week. it's next f*cking level: https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckin
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 13:40:45 UTC No. 16103203
>>16103175
it was an insane shot because nobody knew apart from james burke. thats a well known fact.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:13:10 UTC No. 16103215
>>16103213
what onboard views could there even be that weren't shown on the broadcast?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:13:42 UTC No. 16103216
>>16103153
He knew it was going to launch. He didn't know if it was going to scrub.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:19:38 UTC No. 16103222
>>16103216
Except it was done in 1 take, so he knew it wouldnt scrub. if it scrubbed it would take 2 takes minimum
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:20:45 UTC No. 16103224
>>16103215
There are cameras inside the hull watching where the plasma cuts through
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:34:17 UTC No. 16103233
>>16103175
Kill yourself teddit nigger RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU RUIN EVERY THREAD YOU EVER ENTER JUMP OFF A BRIDGE WITH A BUNGIE CORD AROUND YOUR NECK YOU BLACK BASTARD
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:38:02 UTC No. 16103241
>>16103233
I'm a girl, so be polite
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:40:02 UTC No. 16103246
>>16103233
go back, /pol/troon
>>16103241
ywnbaw
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:40:33 UTC No. 16103248
>>16103241
Dilate tranny YWNBAW
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:41:16 UTC No. 16103249
>>16103246
>>16103248
I love taking big cocks in my ass. Jealous?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:44:59 UTC No. 16103252
>>16103249
SHOW YOURSELF MOUNTAIN OF A MAN I KNOW ITS YOU
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:49:19 UTC No. 16103255
>>16103213
Austin is a budding tranny screenshot this and look back in 4 years
>Verification not required
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:55:05 UTC No. 16103263
>>16103255
The fuck are you talking about?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:59:59 UTC No. 16103269
>>16103263
Did I accidentally post in Spanish or something, you fucking idiot?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:00:25 UTC No. 16103270
The Mars Aptitude Test will just be a tiny little potted plant. You just have to keep the plant alive for a year and a half. If you fail, you get blacklisted from going to space altogether.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:00:56 UTC No. 16103272
>>16103269
Lo siento, no hablo inglés.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:14:12 UTC No. 16103284
>>16103252
I am not he, but I wouldnt mind taking him inside
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:26:56 UTC No. 16103296
>>16103213
In general, there must be a shitload of amazing videos in some SpaceX internal server
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:32:01 UTC No. 16103302
>>16103241
tits or gtfo
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:39:55 UTC No. 16103310
>>16102812
It will be upgraded to the new design (used at the second tower and Florida) once the second tower is operational.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:13:50 UTC No. 16103331
>>16103215
video of the secret crew of black african pygmies being destroyed as the vehicle disintegrated
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:25:58 UTC No. 16103344
>>16103296
>the pigeon video
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:38:48 UTC No. 16103358
>>16103215
Probably inside the starship engine bay to monitor hotstaging. Apollo 6 tier kino you don't get to see because of ITAR
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:44:39 UTC No. 16103362
>>16103358
Maybe apollo 4 is more appropriate
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:51:19 UTC No. 16103369
>>16103358
Funfact: the Apollo 6 command module is owned by one of the Atlanta area's school districts
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:59:22 UTC No. 16103376
>>16103369
Forgot pic
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:03:12 UTC No. 16103381
https://prospect.org/infrastructure
BOING!!
>Title: Suicide Mission
Accurate in more ways than one. Company is effectively dead at this point and it is a lumbering corpse kept alive by government money
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:06:17 UTC No. 16103387
>>16103381
Nvm, the site is leftist communist propaganda. So they're promoting the failure of Boeing as anti-communist drive.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:18:26 UTC No. 16103401
>>16103392
>non-reusable SSTO
worthless
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:20:02 UTC No. 16103402
>>16103401
>Use docking mechanisms and orbital refueling ports as payload.
>Dock with Starship in orbit.
>Refuel both stages.
>Use full stack's worth of Delta-V on orbit for truly gratuitous C3
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:23:29 UTC No. 16103405
>>16103402
The boosters performance would be significantly reduced due to its sea level engines, you might as well just use a normal booster to launch a tug.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:27:18 UTC No. 16103409
>>16103405
A few seconds of lost specific impulse doesn't magically turn a tug that fits in a 250 ton payload envelope into a superior option to 3000 tons of methalox.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:33:04 UTC No. 16103414
>>16103409
Your container for that 3000 tons of methalox fits in the 250 ton payload envelope.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:33:24 UTC No. 16103418
>>16103401
>>16103392
A “non-reusable SSTO” is, in essence, the same philosophical idea as a “partially-reusable TSTO”
I would include Falcon 9 and Shuttle into this definition btw
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:37:56 UTC No. 16103425
>>16103414
With dubious margins, and it's already expendable, so you might as well have the thing launch itself.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:01:25 UTC No. 16103478
>>16103456
kino jap scamming.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:02:19 UTC No. 16103479
>>16103478
Only if
>no refunds
instead of full refunds.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:03:10 UTC No. 16103483
>>16103479
obviously musk wont refund him. hes already spent the money lol.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:05:37 UTC No. 16103490
so this means the estronaut moon trip might happen after the first people land on mars
lol
makes sense though
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:05:45 UTC No. 16103492
>>16103215
To start with, think of all the different views that were seen during the broadcast, then consider that internally, they almost certainly have continuous video of all of them.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:06:29 UTC No. 16103494
>>16103483
Currency, when not exchanged, is the very definition of a fungible commodity.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:13:26 UTC No. 16103507
>>16103456
whats with the relationship drama shit? maybe musk doesn't want his feed full of random shit in Japanese. has absolutely no bearing on dearmoon
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:13:31 UTC No. 16103508
>>16103498
Kek Tory cant even launch his old crusty and musty rogget correctly even on its last flight. The absolute state of oldspace
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:15:23 UTC No. 16103513
>>16103508
because of weather, not because of anything with the rocket. but you knew that already baito-san
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:20:18 UTC No. 16103522
>>16103513
>weather
LMFAOOOOOOOOO
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:22:13 UTC No. 16103525
>>16103508
The nitrogen gas feed system was malfunctioning as well, and its the reason they aren't making an attempt until Monday at the earliest.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:23:40 UTC No. 16103527
>>16103513
>scrubbed due to an issue with the gaseous nitrogen pipeline which provides pneumatic pressure to the launch vehicle systems
https://x.com/StephenClark1/status/
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:23:55 UTC No. 16103529
>>16103494
dont play stupid, everyone knows he will not refund him.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:24:48 UTC No. 16103533
>>16103529
>everyone knows
Go fish somewhere else.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:25:58 UTC No. 16103535
>>16103456
And yet Elon is still following Dear Moon, it's almost like the grifters are doing engagement bait.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:26:42 UTC No. 16103538
>>16103533
These payments are structured as Kickstarter almost, provided there was a "good faith effort" there won't be any refund
Goy
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:27:54 UTC No. 16103540
>>16103535
>almost
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:28:17 UTC No. 16103541
>>16103528
This is a subtle ploy to assert Falcon 9 is not an American rocket.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:29:26 UTC No. 16103544
>>16103533
honestly baffling that you think im trolling. Clearly SpaceX won't suddenly hand over 1.5 billion to this guy. Near 100% certainty it was in the contract that he will never see the money again
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:30:49 UTC No. 16103549
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:31:50 UTC No. 16103550
>>16103544
Since you've hard-equated not following Maezawa with cancellation, yeah, you really are.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:35:47 UTC No. 16103559
>>16103528
>SLS barely launches
Go bite another pillow to accompany your sweet summer wine, eurofag
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:51:51 UTC No. 16103572
>>16103513
lol, lmao even
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:05:30 UTC No. 16103587
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:13:22 UTC No. 16103596
>>16103528
cope
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:14:45 UTC No. 16103598
>>16103587
is this SLIMs sock?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:20:29 UTC No. 16103606
>>16103587
SLIM NO YOU'RE GOING TO BE CANCELLED
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:22:22 UTC No. 16103610
>>16103603
And janny will do nothing. The absolute state of this board.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:22:25 UTC No. 16103611
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:22:59 UTC No. 16103612
>>16103603
That's a Falcon 9 second stage's LOX tank and Krystal porn.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:24:45 UTC No. 16103616
>>16103612
>>16103611
>>16103610
Im assuming we've all hit the 3 dots next to that post correct?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:25:42 UTC No. 16103617
>>16103559
SLS's launch cadence is measured in years, even Delta IV managed to average once a year.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:26:57 UTC No. 16103618
>>16103616
did that just now
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:32:22 UTC No. 16103630
>>16103612
First it's cold, then it's hot.
That is indeed how the combustion cycle of liquid oxygen goes.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 19:52:15 UTC No. 16103659
>>16103655
lmao so she really is just eyecandy. kinda based ngl
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 20:24:20 UTC No. 16103702
>>16103697
probably 2-4
IFT-4 will probably launch in late april or may
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 20:35:05 UTC No. 16103714
>>16103603
thank you anon, it’s been a while since I’ve seen a good old fashioned honest to god krystal post.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 20:45:04 UTC No. 16103726
now that dear moon is kill, is isaacman's polaris starship mission still on the table? or is that going to be kill too?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 20:54:23 UTC No. 16103735
>>16103726
They already cancelled Starship altogether; they’re bulldozing Starbase as we speak!
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 20:56:03 UTC No. 16103737
>>16103726
>now that dear moon is kill
?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:04:40 UTC No. 16103747
>>16103215
didn't Elon mention having infrared cameras inside the tanks to monitor hotspots?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:06:53 UTC No. 16103753
>Elon is starting to cancel contracted starship launches
lol musk bros?? how concerned should we be???
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:09:03 UTC No. 16103756
Did I hear right? Elon Musk said to Maezawa-san "You suck" in an X direct message and then they unfollowed each other? Why would Elon say that to the man who paid for the whole program?? Fucks sake
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:09:07 UTC No. 16103758
>>16103603
>Krystal posting in gifs
Truly, nowhere is safe
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:09:08 UTC No. 16103759
>>16103737
elon's twitter account is no longer following maezawa's twitter account
that's literally it
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:10:06 UTC No. 16103760
Friday-Weekend /sfg/ sucks
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:10:11 UTC No. 16103761
>>16103603
I wish this one had a cock in her pussy too
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:11:30 UTC No. 16103764
>>16103603
anal is absolute vile and disgusting lol
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:14:57 UTC No. 16103767
>>16103603
thanks doc
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:16:32 UTC No. 16103770
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:21:17 UTC No. 16103777
>>16103770
Honestly, how big of a burger was this? Surely the sustained g-forces at launch would be a greater stressor compared to a quick impact. I mean, it crushed some of it, but structurally speaking it should be fine? The rest is just oldspace grifting for repairs.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:22:41 UTC No. 16103779
>>16103777
We are talking old space here, the entire satelite was most likely taken apart and most of it was replaced.
(on paper)
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:23:42 UTC No. 16103781
>>16103760
Yesterdays /sfg/ was about as bad as this one so far
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:27:11 UTC No. 16103790
>>16103760
It's the time when the /sfg/ anons with families are occupied and the autists&trolls remain.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:29:38 UTC No. 16103795
>>16103790
Id hate to be you.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:32:16 UTC No. 16103799
>>16103795
Somebody needs to stay behind to keep the lights on.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:45:51 UTC No. 16103821
>>16103799
I should get a job
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:46:11 UTC No. 16103822
>>16103799
Hang yourself
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:49:24 UTC No. 16103831
>>16103799
Beautiful depiction of forbidden love
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:50:54 UTC No. 16103833
>>16103831
Your life is shallow.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:57:00 UTC No. 16103843
>>16103777
>Surely the sustained g-forces at launch would be a greater stressor compared to a quick impact.
falling on the floor can subject points of an object to hundreds or even thousands of gees for a split-second. there are roller coasters out there that give you higher g-forces than a rocket launch but you're not gonna break your phone screen riding on one of them.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:00:50 UTC No. 16103848
>>16103831
it's a short love.
But most importantly, i normaly only use these pics to spam HOP WHEN??!!!
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:19:09 UTC No. 16103881
>>16103422
>dedicated deep space variants
Neat, I don't think they really talked about this before, even if it's the most sensible and obvious way to send stuff BLEO
Next thing is making a (refuellable) tug with big tanks and one raptor.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:36:13 UTC No. 16103913
>Three scheduled Falcon 9 launches in a sub-five-hour window
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:41:04 UTC No. 16103919
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:42:27 UTC No. 16103922
>>16103919
>Janky and poorly designed
>Better launch success rate than almost the entirety of the space industry
You're not making the point you think you're making.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:51:24 UTC No. 16103933
>>16103922
Not "almost." The Falcon 9 block 5 has the best reliability rating of any launch vehicle, past or present.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:56:35 UTC No. 16103937
Anyone else shitting bricks about SpaceX/Musk? I dedicated my life savings to going to Mars but now he's going full Howard Hughes?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:58:58 UTC No. 16103941
>>16103937
you're not and you didn't
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:15:32 UTC No. 16103973
>>16103941
This
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:23:36 UTC No. 16103982
>>16103937
This
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:24:28 UTC No. 16103984
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:26:17 UTC No. 16103987
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:27:46 UTC No. 16103989
>>16103358
>you don't get to see because of ITAR
Nah, they're just pussies and don't want to show it because muh proprietary info even though hot staging is nothing new
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:43:36 UTC No. 16103999
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:45:13 UTC No. 16104002
>>16103919
Yes, we see all those aborts and failures on these launches.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:45:41 UTC No. 16104003
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:46:28 UTC No. 16104004
>>16103919
What manner of incandescent cope will this man radiate when an astronaut snaps a hilltop selfie with HLS in the background
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:50:50 UTC No. 16104007
potentially three Falcon 9 missions within 5 hours of each other
Sat
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:53:55 UTC No. 16104009
>>16103937
You're just whiny.
Hughes went insane and reclusive and started keeping his toenails in jars, Musk woke up and realized that he hadn't been properly leveraging his wealth, sociopolitically. He also correctly identified the right-wing overcorrection that's rapidly approaching and began distancing himself from the left by dismantling the single biggest censorship apparatus and employing some strategic schmoozing.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:55:41 UTC No. 16104012
It's a long waaayyyy to Phlegra Montes,
It's a long waaayyyy to goooo!
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:56:20 UTC No. 16104013
>>16104004
He'll just ignore anything that undermines his ability to be snide and dismissive
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:56:38 UTC No. 16104014
>>16104007
That particular spaceflight revolution is so passé, I'm just here for the next one.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:00:50 UTC No. 16104020
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:01:20 UTC No. 16104021
>>16103249
Your bussy belongs to Tory
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:05:36 UTC No. 16104026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILo
>Ship 29 Completes Its Static Fire Tests! Up Next: Orbit! - Starbase Gallery [Mar. 20th - 28th, 2024]
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:10:26 UTC No. 16104031
>>16103764
facts
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 00:46:19 UTC No. 16104088
>>16103919
>It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:00:57 UTC No. 16104118
>>16103919
keeek he's obsessed
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:04:38 UTC No. 16104128
>>16104011
to me, if its not a reusable, permanently in space craft then its not a space tug. like if its a lunar tug going from LEO to LLO taking smaller craft with it then thats a tug in my eyes.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:06:02 UTC No. 16104135
>>16103919
concern troll is concerned
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:15:25 UTC No. 16104152
What industries will be possible in 10+ years after it is cheaper to put things in space
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:21:12 UTC No. 16104169
>>16104152
>in space manufacturing: semiconductors, high grade alloys
>in space pharma: growing high purity crystals of certain drugs
>in space health: 3d printing organs
>in space tourism
>research and development of space technology in orbit
in addition to all the stuff we have now with military/civilian earth observation and telescopes.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:26:12 UTC No. 16104177
>>16104152
Offshore datacenters in space. These are also likely to be the first satellites to get point defense lasers capable of burning through an antisatellite missile to keep cranky governments from deorbiting them.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:35:16 UTC No. 16104191
>>16104152
Nothing because freefall manufacturing is a larp
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:37:49 UTC No. 16104193
>>16104191
All negatively convection sensitive materials will turn out better in microgravity, including a lot of organic synthesis.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:41:43 UTC No. 16104197
>>16104193
>negatively convection sensitive materials
Name three
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:43:46 UTC No. 16104200
>>16104197
Souffles will never collapse in zero g
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:04:38 UTC No. 16104227
>>16104009
The Hughes comparisons were valid maybe 5 years ago, but Musk singlehandedly breathed new life into an industry that had been moribund for a generation. Aviation would have exploded regardless of whether there'd been a Howard Hughes or not.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:15:37 UTC No. 16104239
>>16104152
Space is just a distraction and a very expensive excuse for war profiteering.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:32:09 UTC No. 16104250
>>16104239
If war profiteering makes us multiplanetary, sign me up
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:34:19 UTC No. 16104251
>>16104169
in space tourism and selling tickets to a martian colony (plus taxing the settlers for everything on the colony and tariffs on sellers from earth once they get big enough) would be the main 'industry'. medical industry stuff is gonna be a meme for a long time unless an actual factory is set up and not just some shitty capsule that goes to orbit once makes a few then comes down. orbital powerstations i feel could make a killing if you can just get that much power. p2p flights is a total meme. mining asteroids will be a legitimate business for specifically off planet in orbit stations to make them massive or en masse for cheap (or literally just make your own fucking moon to live on near mars or ceres or some shit). once colonies become big enough again the industry of off planet shipping is a big one, and that would also include fuel shipments from titan to anywhere in the system for methalox rockets (literlaly only starship) and water exports from enceladus/europa will also be big.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:38:48 UTC No. 16104257
>>16104197
The transitional phases between Austenite and Martensite alloys. Fluoride glass. Three-dimensional cultured cell structures.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:48:08 UTC No. 16104269
>>16104250
If you go to any other planet in such primitive state you will end up fucking up that other planet as well.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:56:33 UTC No. 16104274
>>16104257
oh im taking structure and properties of materials right now, theres pearlite, bainite, cementite, ferrite (sometimes proeutectoid i think), spheroidite if you pearlite for 24 hours at temp, tempered martensite if you want to count that, and i think thats all i remember
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:14:18 UTC No. 16104289
>>16104269
>planet
Why stop there?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:27:22 UTC No. 16104301
>>16104180
what a depressing landscape
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:30:48 UTC No. 16104303
>>16104301
You're right, it needs a Whataburger.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:31:01 UTC No. 16104304
Orbital Queef
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:33:49 UTC No. 16104308
>>16104152
im still waiting for satellite servicing to take off
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:38:03 UTC No. 16104312
>>16104193
>>16104200
I hate entropy so much bros
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:46:39 UTC No. 16104316
>>16104304
Orbital Beef
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:57:45 UTC No. 16104325
>>16104197
>he doesn't know about Auntie Carmack's Spherical Muffins
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 04:17:21 UTC No. 16104336
>>16104169
>semiconductors
lmao
the alloys maybe I guess but is there a point to doing it in space?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 04:28:06 UTC No. 16104342
https://vocaroo.com/1buCKiN7dV9t
Suno.ai
Make some music about Spaceflight
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 04:35:47 UTC No. 16104351
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 04:39:59 UTC No. 16104353
>>16104351
Based, thanks Anon
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:05:27 UTC No. 16104370
>>16104317
I don’t even want to imagine a time frame for a mission as simple as this. Even if they were halfway through building it right now, I don’t think we’d see it in our lifetimes hahah
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:06:10 UTC No. 16104371
>>16104336
Retarded pseud
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:17:40 UTC No. 16104376
>>16104336
silicon wafers are crystals. the crystals grow to a certain size before breaking because of torque from earths gravity. in microgravity they can grow indefinitely.
profit.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:32:58 UTC No. 16104389
>>16104376
Wait i’m nta but is torque really the problem?? I’ve never heard that before that’s interesting
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:33:10 UTC No. 16104390
Not gonna be much Starbase action going on for a while, the next major test up would be B11 static fire but OLM is currently under going work. Unironically two weeks.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:35:49 UTC No. 16104393
>>16104390
May or June at best
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:45:40 UTC No. 16104398
>>16104393
May 4th
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:45:53 UTC No. 16104399
>>16104376
Silicon wafers are staying at 300mm because the investment needed to pay for 450mm wafer infrastructure would leave TSMC, Samsung, and Intel as the only people who could actually make chips because nobody else could afford the equipment. The equipment itself would take decades to pay off. The economics of handling large silicon killed large silicon, not the engineering.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:47:23 UTC No. 16104400
>>16104393
May at best. June is assured launch. And May isnt even that bad of a chance, it would be on pace with the 6 week estimate. This time they dont have nearly as much paper work to do since they got to the point where no manor deviations to path happened.
>>16104398
>Le funny søy wars date
Time to dilate your axewound
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:05:54 UTC No. 16104419
"Ascension Island is a small island in the south atlantic belonging to the British
Charles Darwin and Joseph Dalton Hooker decided, for a laugh, to slap plants on that bad boy from every corner of the globe to see what would win out
They turned the desolate island mountain into a lush cloud forest and provided a reliable source of rainwater"
What's gonna be Ascension island of spaceflight?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:08:24 UTC No. 16104424
>>16104419
First of all, learn to greentext. Second, if anything probably either underice Europan colonies or Martian lava tubes that have been domed in to make one massive hab.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:12:50 UTC No. 16104431
>>16104428
>ssto
alright gramps time to go get your prune juice
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:14:06 UTC No. 16104433
>>16104427
It has many vertical 200 meter cliffs
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:14:27 UTC No. 16104434
>>16104428
>tubecuck spacecraft
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:18:16 UTC No. 16104439
If you think about it the ISS is just many interconnected tubecuck cells.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:24:57 UTC No. 16104443
>>16104439
it will be superceded by superior commercial space stations.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:05:03 UTC No. 16104463
>>16104444
something kind of lewd about this 2bh
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:11:51 UTC No. 16104470
>>16104180
I want to terraform the moon.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:12:25 UTC No. 16104471
>>16103937
Mars is a waste of time anyway. Venus is the only planet suitable for long term human colonization because muh near Earth-normal gravity desu.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:15:05 UTC No. 16104476
>>16104009
go look up what age hughes started doing that shit and you'll see exactly how long musk has left. look at hughes behaviors for the 3 years before he jumped the shark. literally identical brain patterns
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:16:13 UTC No. 16104478
With all the agitprop in this general lately, someone's feeling pressured.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:17:37 UTC No. 16104480
>>16104428
love designing an orbital rocket with 10kg of margin to spare
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:21:11 UTC No. 16104484
>>16104481
>suggest
>might
>maybe
>or
>may
I'm inclined to agree
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:28:35 UTC No. 16104490
>>16104481
>wow this rubble is slightly wet
>lets indicate literally everything it could be without any supporting evidence of which is more likely
>come on guys you need to fund The Science (TM) so we can keep this gravy tra- i mean this university going
there are times when academia is good, and times when it is bad. this is very obviously the latter
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:45:19 UTC No. 16104506
>>16104009
what's the connection between Hughes and Musk?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:49:07 UTC No. 16104514
>>16104480
Imagine a heavy lunch being the difference between orbit and a failure
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 08:14:33 UTC No. 16104539
https://youtu.be/EsUBRd1O2dU?si=hj8
Ok guys check THIS $H%@#!T out
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 08:14:59 UTC No. 16104541
>>16104514
Just brap it out for the thrust
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 08:27:39 UTC No. 16104548
>>16104476
What are these brain patterns exactly?
Juat repeating this doesnt make it so, i dont think they have much common at all
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 08:36:25 UTC No. 16104553
Hughes QRD?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 08:39:58 UTC No. 16104554
>>16104553
Off topic
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 10:27:41 UTC No. 16104593
>>16104582
>From Jérémie Périn
Of course
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 11:01:03 UTC No. 16104609
>>16104553
howard hughes wikipedia
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 11:17:52 UTC No. 16104615
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:22:28 UTC No. 16104660
>>16104169
>semiconductors
no chance with how much (clean) water the fabrication process requires
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:41:23 UTC No. 16104683
>>16104618
>jet exhaust blowing directly on the vertical stabilizer
wew, lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:48:12 UTC No. 16104689
>>16104553
his company was a major player in spaceflight history. they made early commsats like telstar and syncom, the surveyor probes, and the first commercial payloads to be both launched and retrieved by shuttle. greg jarvis who died on challenger was a payload specialist from hughes.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:56:22 UTC No. 16104695
>>16104177
Wouldn't data center waste heat be a bit of an inconvenience in space?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:58:26 UTC No. 16104697
>>16104670
We will use Starship + Helios to intercept them
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:01:25 UTC No. 16104698
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:03:50 UTC No. 16104701
>>16104698
There is always the "if we cant have it, nobody can" route and we burn earth and take as many of the xeno fuckers down with us as we can.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:05:23 UTC No. 16104702
>>16104152
Communications, observation and navigation, same as today, except on a far greater scale, and with more advanced and diverse systems
Space-based solar power - less of an intermittency problem, and without needing to build long high voltage transmission lines. The Chinese seem particularly enthused about this prospect for some reason
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:07:19 UTC No. 16104704
>>16104670
They lost interest after they confirmed that our system is void of intelligent life
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:08:29 UTC No. 16104706
>>16104697
Helios can only boost something like 450g from LEO to GEO lol...
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:08:30 UTC No. 16104707
>>16104670
They lost interest after they confirmed that our system is devoid of intelligent life
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:09:50 UTC No. 16104709
>>16104706
So your saying we need to build nukes that weigh 450grams?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:10:37 UTC No. 16104710
>>16104706
4000kg, retard.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:16:15 UTC No. 16104715
>>16104615
>thousand year project
Why are people so fascinated with the creation of an Earth copy that will never be good enough? Doming and digging would give results faster, the supply would be scalable to demand, and the end result would be better. Not to mention that the result would probably be a lot more predictable with less potential for nasty surprises that throw a spanner in the works
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:17:58 UTC No. 16104717
>>16104695
A bit, but once you get to measuring solar panels in square kilometers, pairing that with radiators isn't so hard. Immersion cooling per rack should make it feasible.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:22:51 UTC No. 16104719
>>16104444
Do the new “suitport” style space suits have a simple water-cooled garment layer?
These things are surely pretty easy to slip in and out of, I’d imagine. No pre-breathing, no complicated cooling layer (hopefully), just get in seal up and detach
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:24:21 UTC No. 16104721
>>16104720
if you’re asking if it’s ever going to advance past the powerpoint stage then the answer is no
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:26:29 UTC No. 16104725
>>16104720
>hydrologgs aerospike SSTO
Are they trying to do Venture Star 30 years late?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:29:15 UTC No. 16104726
>>16104720
Russia is sending it's planes to india to be maintained, they are not a nation that can build anything new anymore.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:32:40 UTC No. 16104728
What made the Russians wake up one day and say "what we should do is spend resources on a Soyuz replacement that can carry far more people than we have any use for and is way too fat for the Soyuz-2 launcher, however we should not develop a Progress replacement that would let us actually retire the Soyuz-2 and Soyuz bus"
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:37:20 UTC No. 16104733
>>16104721
Of course not. Though I don't understand how it can even still exist as a powerpoint rocket in this day and age
>>16104725
The Corona project started in 1992, and for some reason it apparently isn't fully and properly dead yet
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:43:54 UTC No. 16104742
>>16104728
They actually do have a replacement! I can’t remember the name off the top of my head though.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:44:07 UTC No. 16104743
>>16104725
It will be glorious.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:47:21 UTC No. 16104750
>>16104742
Found it; it is called ‘TGK PG’. I am not sure of its current status though (probably delayed indefinitely, no doubt)
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:49:44 UTC No. 16104751
>>16104750
lol wtf
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:50:35 UTC No. 16104753
>>16104750
>>16104742
the good news is that you don't need to replace soyuz OR progress if you're not gonna have a space station
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:50:36 UTC No. 16104754
>>16104750
>china tier CGI mockups.
lol.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:51:08 UTC No. 16104756
>>16104753
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:56:45 UTC No. 16104764
>>16104742
>>16104750
TGK-PG is still supposed to launch on Soyuz-2. The project is not going anywhere anyway, as far as I can find, certainly not before 2033. If the project does proceed, it just makes the issue even worse, because it implies they intend to keep Soyuz-2 around for a very long time
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:13:06 UTC No. 16104778
>>16104719
Just because you enter the suit in a different way doesn't remove the need for a water cooling garment
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:14:33 UTC No. 16104782
Don’t check the Neptune wikipedia page, it’s a huge blackpill
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:18:16 UTC No. 16104787
>>16104728
>1 Angara A5M to launch 2 guys to LEO
Holy hell
Is Fat Orel a project designed to ensure more launches for Krunichev's expensive rocket, or what else explains this? Orel itself is from Energia; I don't see why they couldn't just keep building Soyuz. Am I missing something?
If this is how things are going to be run and how precious aerospace resources are going to be allocated, I think it is safe to write off the Russian space program permanently. Not to mention the quality of this camerawork, which leaves much of the slide unreadable
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:23:19 UTC No. 16104795
>>16104787
Orel+Angara+Vostochny is intended as a domestic stack to avoid depending on foreign parts or launchpads. It's stupid economically but they have *some* reason.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:31:17 UTC No. 16104804
>>16104787
Why couldn't Energia instead have spent those engineering hours on developing modern versions of the Soyuz LOK and LK? And Krunichev could instead have their A5Ms launch tugs to send them to LTO, or build the A5V to launch them directly to LTO.
They got the Soyuz LOK in under 10,000kg in the 1960s, they could probably get even lower today, especially if the LK gets its own propulsion module. Soyuz LOK could launch on a Proton and on N-1, so why couldn't it launch on an A5M or A5V. They could licence or buy lunar suits from China, just like Russia sold an Orlan-M suit to China 20 years ago.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:42:20 UTC No. 16104816
>>16104795
I don't understand that logic.
Can't they launch Soyuz from Vostochny to an orbit that is viable for a space station, even with Soyuz-2.1b? Doesn't Soyuz-2.1b give lots of slack in capacity for launching from Baikonur to ISS, hence why they thought about replacing Progress with PKG-TG in the first place? Aren't they going to launch Progress from Vostochny to their new space station?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:44:02 UTC No. 16104818
>>16104795
I don't understand that logic.
Can't they launch Soyuz from Vostochny to an orbit that is viable for a space station, even with Soyuz-2.1b? Doesn't Soyuz-2.1b give lots of slack in capacity for launching from Baikonur to ISS, hence why they thought about replacing Progress with PKG-TG in the first place? Aren't they going to launch Progress from Vostochny to their new space station? Does Soyuz depend on foreign parts that they can't substitute, and if so, how come Progress does not?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:46:02 UTC No. 16104820
>>16104818
Soyuz and Progress both depend on foreign parts, they're just impossible to kill outright for political reasons.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:48:59 UTC No. 16104822
>>16104795
What does Russia need a space station for? They don't even have the money for it with all they're spending on the war.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:50:17 UTC No. 16104824
>>16104822
Bragging rights, same as it ever was. There have been slav stations in orbit continuously since Mir, maybe even the Salyuts, and they don't want to stop.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:51:22 UTC No. 16104828
>>16104820
What are those foreign parts? How can it be easier or comparable in effort to develop a brand new craft than to substitute imported parts for Soyuz?
Don't they need to substitute them anyway for Progress? Even if something can't be killed today due to the ISS, it's going to get killed after the ISS ends, unless it's from Belarus, though why would they be particularly worried about Belarus?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:52:28 UTC No. 16104831
>>16104828
I think it's from Ukraine lmao.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:59:31 UTC No. 16104841
>>16104822
> with all they're spending on the war.
Russia's military spending in 2024 will be 7.1% of GDP, compared with 4.1% in 2021, according to SIPRI
>They don't have the money for it
They already have a space station module construction and operations program, they just need to continue it. They need to spend much of that military money on space anyway, because they need more satellites, so there should be scale benefits
>What does Russia need a space station for?
National prestige, directed at audiences both at home and abroad. I'd say a Russian space station is now more important than ever since the previous Cold War ended
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:00:53 UTC No. 16104842
>>16104831
How can that be? Haven't Yuzhmash and other Ukrainian aerospace industrial facilities been bombed repeatedly?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:01:18 UTC No. 16104843
>>16104818
The 2-1b does have enough lift to launch a Soyuz-MS to the orbit intended for the ROS, but there's a bit more involved than just hitting the desired trajectory. Right now the only active R7 pad that can load crew is Site 31/6 at Baikonur. Site 1S at Vostochny could be upgraded for crew launches, but that's not something Russia wants to spend money on if they don't have to since Site 1A is already planned to handle crew with Angara. On top of that there is the issue that launching into a ~97d orbit is going to take you out over a lot of water, which the Soyuz-MS isn't really designed to abort into. Soyuz-MS could be upgraded for water landings, but the Orel is already planned to be capable of that so there's little desire to spend more rubles on yet another block upgrade for the Soyuz.
Launching Progress-MS on a Soyuz 2-1b from Vostochny doesn't run into any of these problems and will probably fill Russia's cargo delivery needs well enough to keep something like the TGK-PG trapped in the powerpoint realm forever. I wouldn't be surprised if there were still a few foreign-sourced parts in the Soyuz, but most of the upgrades from the TMA-M were done to switch over to domestic suppliers.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:04:41 UTC No. 16104847
>>16104820
>Soyuz
Hoe did this bypass the onions filter?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:05:29 UTC No. 16104849
>>16104847
lurk more
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:08:22 UTC No. 16104855
>>16104843
>Orel is already planned to be capable of that so there's little desire to spend more rubles on yet another block upgrade for the Soyuz.
Yet how much money would have been saved by (a) not developing a brand new spacecraft in the first place, and (b) using A5M's higher payload capacity to launch or co-launch other things instead?
>Site 1S at Vostochny could be upgraded for crew launches, but that's not something Russia wants to spend money on if they don't have to since Site 1A is already planned to handle crew with Angara.
Couldn't they just as well have inversed those investments, so that 1S received the crew facilities?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:09:09 UTC No. 16104857
>>16104715
We should do both, starting with what you said in the near term but working up to the second over the next few hundred years.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:18:49 UTC No. 16104864
>>16104857
I think, if you've been doming and digging for a thousand years, then there's not much benefit left to be had from changing the atmosphere to one that still wouldn't be good enough
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:19:00 UTC No. 16104866
>>16104670
just like my 3 body slop!!
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:21:20 UTC No. 16104871
>>16104855
The Soyuz is a good spacecraft because it's reliable, domestic, and cheap. It's not a good spacecraft because it's cramped and doesn't have much if any down-mass capability. It's just not very capable compared to modern competitors like Dragon and Mengzhou. One of Russia's biggest problems in spaceflight right now is that the old capabilities are just good enough that developing something better isn't seen as a necessity when it really should be.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:28:32 UTC No. 16104877
>>16104719
Would you even need much cooling on Mars? It's not hard vacuum.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:34:36 UTC No. 16104887
so why don't they make the rockets spin with a drill head to diffuse the air pushing against it?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:40:41 UTC No. 16104895
>>16104877
There's so little of it that it might as well be a vacuum right?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:44:25 UTC No. 16104899
>>16104895
Well there's enough for that little drone to fly. And I don't think there was any issue with rovers getting superheated in the sun like on the moon.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:44:35 UTC No. 16104900
>>16104877
>>16104895
It’s a vacuum for all intents and purposes
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:45:02 UTC No. 16104901
>>16104871
>It's not a good spacecraft because it's cramped and doesn't have much if any down-mass capability.
> It's just not very capable compared to modern competitors like Dragon and Mengzhou.
Why does a Russian spacecraft need to compete with Dragon or Mengzhou one-on-one? Why does a Russian spacecraft need to be spacious, have much down-mass capability, or carry more than 3 people? It gets 3 people to LEO and that's all it needs to do to let Russia maintain a space station. In the extraordinary case that Russia might need to launch more people or bring down a lot of mass, it can launch an additional Soyuz.
Dragon's size makes sense because SpaceX's only rocket at the time was Falcon 9, and Dragon is appropriately sized for that rocket.
Mengzhou's size originally made sense for China because it was appropriately sized for CZ-7 and they are going to retire all their hypergolic rockets anyway including CZ-2F. It still makes sense today even though the CZ-7 won't carry it anymore, because (a) they're likely going to expand their space station to a level such that carrying more than 3 people in one go is meaningful, and (b) it is appropriately sized for CZ-10 and CZ-10A to launch.
More importantly, America's and China's space programs have funding levels that Russia's doesn't, and they don't really need to husband money or aerospace engineering resources to the extent that Russia needs to.
>One of Russia's biggest problems in spaceflight right now is that the old capabilities are just good enough that developing something better isn't seen as a necessity when it really should be
This is true but I don't think a crew taxi is one of the things that would benefit much from a brand new replacement, in fact Orel+A5M seems like it could be a downgrade compared to Soyuz+Soyuz in terms of running cost considering Russia doesn't really need to send 6 people in one go
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:16:21 UTC No. 16104933
space tug muh junk
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:17:37 UTC No. 16104935
>>16104782
what, bc scientists lied about the color?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:18:44 UTC No. 16104937
>>16104481
exhausting
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:19:20 UTC No. 16104939
Is this for real? In what universe does this clunky monstrosity make sense? How about finishing the RD-0169 instead?
In my mind, the obvious path forward for Russia would be to develop the largest rocket Falcon 9 style reusable rocket that is possible with RD-0169 engines. Even if it means they have to build the tank structures in the Far East. They build fighter jets in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, it shouldn't be an insurmountable task to get a workforce that can build fuel tanks and assemble rockets in the Far East by 2030. If necessary, they take a page out of SpaceX's and Landspace's playbook and build it entirely out of steel.
Is there a good reason why they don't even seem to plan this? Are the Samara/Omsk people terrified of the idea of competing structural manufacturing in the Far East? Or is there something I am missing?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:21:12 UTC No. 16104941
>>16104939
did u really write all that about russian space vaporware cgi ppt #17956?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:22:48 UTC No. 16104942
>>16104941
Why are they talking about this clunky vaporware, instead of better vaporware that would actually seem to make a bit sense on paper?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:25:12 UTC No. 16104946
>China wants to launch a hypersonic space plane weighing 50 tonnes and measuring longer than a Boeing 737. It is part of the Tengyun project unveiled in 2016
>https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024
This destroys F9.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:29:56 UTC No. 16104955
>>16104901
Just maintaining a space station isn't a great goal. You want to do something with it that's worth the cost of keeping the lights on and a useful station needs more capacity than a Soyuz capsule can easily deliver. Downmass is important and Soyuz has no real capability there. Cargo Dragon regularly comes back with around two tons of experiments and equipment. Some of this is keeping up with the Robinsons in America and China, but if you don't have the ability to do much more than send up cosmonauts to take up space, you'll never attract any interest from groups outside Roscosmos. It is a losing argument on cost, but that's mostly on the Soyuz-2 killing off the Angara A3.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:33:31 UTC No. 16104962
>>16104946
china just caught spacex with their pants down and s*domized them
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:37:08 UTC No. 16104966
>>16104962
Still waiting on those battery powered hall thruster airplanes China supposedly had.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:44:45 UTC No. 16104975
>>16104822
>What does Russia need a space station for?
A destination for manned flights. A nation of Salyut, Mir and ISS can't just say we can't fly to space anymore once ISS is retired and deorbited.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:45:32 UTC No. 16104977
>>16104966
need some pain meds for your raw ass pigdog fuck?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:48:13 UTC No. 16104982
>>16104939
You underestimate how limited their budget it, how low of a priority space is, and/or how fucked the system is.
China is what Russia used to be, and China now firmly occupies the second place try-to-catch-up-and-keep-pace role of geopolitical spaceflight. Even India is arguably more ahead than Russia—or will undeniably surpass them in the next 5-10 years
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:49:31 UTC No. 16104985
>>16104955
Just keeping the lights on in space has massive value just by itself, for prestige reasons. Hardly anyone in the public knows about downmass or experiment recovery, so there is hardly any additional prestige to gain from doing that.
Prestige is the primary value of a space station. The science is mostly a bonus. The biggest science questions for which a zero-g laboratory is needed have been researched to death already. So why is downmass important? Why can't the Russians just let the Americans and Chinese do the kind of experiments that require recovery? Is there anything secretive about it, that won't be published?
If the Russians really want to do large secretive space exposure experiments and bring them down again for study, developing a functional equivalent to X-37B, perhaps some kind of Soyuz derivative, would seem like a cheaper option than Orel. The X-37B and the Chinese equivalent launch very seldom, it is not something that requires launch and recovery once every 6 months.
If the Russians really want to bring down large experiments from a manned space station, they could remove one of the astronauts and just launch 2, or send up an occasional special purpose cargo Soyuz once every few years to bring up and down particularly large objects. What stuff do the Russians need to bring down, that warrants a brand new spacecraft that needs to launch on A5M?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:51:45 UTC No. 16104986
>>16104946
I have seen too many CGI chink wunderwaffen to believe china is ever going to get past the stage of building cheap russian knockoffs.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:52:13 UTC No. 16104987
>>16104982
I had imagined that after the Ukraine war demonstrated the immense military value of space, and after Putin kicked Rogozin sideways and replaced him with Borisov, we'd see serious efforts to right the ship. Yet apparently not.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:55:08 UTC No. 16104995
>>16104946
>>16104966
>>16104986
People need to learn to recognize what is a long-term high-risk experimental project that mostly just exists for research purposes.
CASIC is working on a methalox Falcon 9 clone and that is their primary project in the area of reusable space launch.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:56:21 UTC No. 16104998
>>16104995
the one exception to that is SpaceX with both F9 when it was first being developed and now Starship.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:56:39 UTC No. 16104999
>>16104939
>In what universe does this clunky monstrosity make sense?
That would actually be easier to land than the Falcon 9. With one Merlin 1D throttled down as far as it can go (~340 kN) Falcon is still pulling about 1.5g of acceleration. An RD-191 can throttle down to around 520 kN, but five URM-1 modules bolted together with landing gear weighs more than twice what a Falcon booster does so a reuseable Angara could get less than 1g on its landing burn. It'd look more like the hover-and-touchdown that New Shepard does than a precisely timed suicide burn. The problems start when you realize you need to disconcert all of the modules so you can ship them by rail back to the spaceport.
It hard to set up infrastructure in the far east. It's not impossible to build a factory out there, but getting workers to relocate to somewhere even less exciting than rural Idaho is a lot harder than it was in Soviet times. The fact that it's so remote and undeveloped also means that there's no equivilant to the Utah congressional delegation insisting that boosters be built in their district.
While the design is a kludged together mess, it doesn't require new and untested engines, a new factory, new tooling for that factory, or a relocated workforce.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:04:43 UTC No. 16105009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAf
>Starbase Weekly, Ep.111: Starfactory Expansion Continues!
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:15:37 UTC No. 16105029
>>16104847
It's exempt because jannies are commies.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:18:08 UTC No. 16105034
>>16104999
It might be easier to land, but that's just because of how much useless dead weight it has. The boosters become a drag rather than a boost when it keeps them on like this instead of staging.
Furthermore, the engine will only be 10 times reusable. Which is not surprising. Intuitively, an ORSC engine design that was not originally intended to be reusable seems like it would be inconducive to long and problem-free engine life without a very thorough redesign.
The rocket looks like the A5V design, and if it uses three engines for the upper stages, that means it expends an average of 3.5 engines per launch. So the savings aren't that great.
If the RD-0169 is 100 times reusable, which I believe I read somewhere it is supposed to be, then a rocket with a Falcon 9 layout would expends 1.09 engines per launch. Even if just 20 times reusable, then it is 1.45 engines per launch.
Are places like Komsomolsk-on-Amur and Khabarovsk really like rural Idaho? The former is like Boise in size and the latter is even bigger. KnAAPO aircraft factory in Komsomolsk-on-Amur had 13,500 employees in 2011. That's more than SpaceX had in 2023 in total. Komsomolsk-on-Amur and Khabarovsk both have shipyards, and the latter has a bunch of metallurgical industry.
For a rocket factory, they don't need to relocate all the workforce there. They just need people for manufacturing tanks and for final assembly. All parts that can be brought by rail or truck would be brought in from existing factories.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:25:39 UTC No. 16105044
>>16104973
That’s retarded. A KKV scar would just look like any other crater. It’s clearly from a laser weapon.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:11:39 UTC No. 16105107
>>16104987
Why do they need to do anything when they can just get their hands on starlink terminals and use the same shit ukraine is?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:16:48 UTC No. 16105113
Three launches today
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:27:54 UTC No. 16105129
>>16105112
>>16105113
Three launches within 4 hours and 38 minutes.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:29:56 UTC No. 16105134
>>16105112
>>16105113
3 scrub a dubs today
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:46:45 UTC No. 16105153
>>16105107
They need their own Starlink that is reliable, that works in much of the relevant areas, and that they can use for datalinks with missiles, aircraft and spacecraft
They also need massive EO and space weapons
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:56:47 UTC No. 16105171
>>16104999
>>16105034
>it doesn't require new and untested engines,
I don't think Russia will have enough payloads to really require a reusable rocket until the 2030s anyway, so there's still a lot of time to finish a new engine
>a new factory, new tooling for that factory
They should start preparing for an eventual Russian Starship anyway
>or a relocated workforce.
If they created a new rocket factory in the east, I think it would be done by relocating just a small kernel of people from Progress or Krunichev, who would then through local recruitment gradually build up a team that can handle tank production and rocket assembly. Besides, they need the current workforce in the west to keep building R7s and URMs, they can't just stop that production
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:03:15 UTC No. 16105179
>>16105044
Was the laser used before, during or after the Martian thermonuclear war?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:29:20 UTC No. 16105222
>>16104269
good
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:30:23 UTC No. 16105224
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight
NSF interview of Dr Phil Metzger for his work on IFT-1 pad explosion
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:40:35 UTC No. 16105237
>>16105107
having a few starlink terminals that you can use for a while until they're disabled is different from having reliable access to them
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:52:11 UTC No. 16105254
>>16104701
what if they only want us for our silicon
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:52:33 UTC No. 16105256
>>16104593
>niggers on Mars
Yeah I think I'll pass
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:54:51 UTC No. 16105260
>>16103999
why did they choose these rocks? didnt they have to import them from alabama? lol?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:54:56 UTC No. 16105261
>>16104847
if you spell Soyuz exactly correctly it doesn't get filtered, but if you do something weird like pluralize it or whatever it becomes Baseduzes
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:56:26 UTC No. 16105265
why wont they install spinning wheel inside starship to steer it in space?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cR
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:58:42 UTC No. 16105268
>>16105260
senator shelby from alabama
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 19:59:03 UTC No. 16105270
>>16105260
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artem
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:05:22 UTC No. 16105286
Taobao made an agreement with Space Epoch to use their rocket for research and tests of rocket delivery to anywhere on Earth within an hour
Space Epoch also released a render of their XZY-1 rocket. It might look familiar. The rocket is 4.2m in diameter, will be built in stainless steel, and use methalox engines from JZYJ
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:11:51 UTC No. 16105296
>>16105265
those need to be very big and heavy in order to stabilize an object as large as Starship
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:12:25 UTC No. 16105298
>>16105286
>render
of course
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:15:40 UTC No. 16105301
Landspace confirmed that construction of the ZQ-3 pad in Jiuquan has started. This is also confirmed by satellite imagery
https://weibo.com/5658451754/O73PCu
Satellite imagery suggests that construction has started on Space Pioneer's TL-3 pad at in Jiuquan
https://weibo.com/5658451754/O73UK7
Satellite imagery shows construction progress on WSLC pad 3
https://weibo.com/5658451754/O794A1
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:20:31 UTC No. 16105312
>>16105301
Space will be Chinese.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:22:27 UTC No. 16105317
>>16105268
i miss the orbital depot meme's.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:24:24 UTC No. 16105320
>>16105298
They have done some ground firing tests
https://spacenews.com/chinese-start
JZYJ said they recently tested 3 flight hardware engines that will be delivered to their "second customer" soon. These engines will be used for 10km and 100km hoppers
http://www.jzyjspace.com/news/60.ht
JZYJ has two customers that I know of: Rocket Pi and Space Epoch
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:24:55 UTC No. 16105323
>>16105254
they will have to take it out of our cold, dead hands.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:25:57 UTC No. 16105326
>>16105323
that won't be an issue though?
just sell the fuckers some sand
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:27:28 UTC No. 16105329
>>16105323
>tfw you will never get cool insect powers and murder the fuck out of martian roachdindu's
feelbugman
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:32:44 UTC No. 16105334
>>16105326
Sand is a finite product and the concrete industry is already doing some really questionable things to keep the supply of sand going.
Let the xeno shits go somewhere else to get their sand.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:33:32 UTC No. 16105335
>>16105334
what about roggs
we have plenty of roggs
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:35:55 UTC No. 16105338
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:39:14 UTC No. 16105346
>>16105286
Is this Chinese Falcon 9 clone number 14 or number 15? I lost track long ago
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:44:04 UTC No. 16105355
https://twitter.com/SpaceEquities/s
>ntuitive Machines $LUNR consortium awarded NASA LTV contract. On the fpds website (https://fpds.gov/fpdsng_cms/index.
>"The Lunar Terrain Vehicle (LTV) Services (Services) contract will provide NASA increased lunar surface unpressurized mobility for suited Extravehicular Activity (EVA) crew members."
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:52:04 UTC No. 16105368
>>16105312
你说得对
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:53:16 UTC No. 16105369
>>16105335
If we run out of roggs we can always give them muffins instead
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:54:59 UTC No. 16105370
>>16105312
Are you saying it isn't already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swi
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:56:01 UTC No. 16105373
https://youtu.be/7FVYEhwiis8
episode 2 is out!
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:57:04 UTC No. 16105374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EK
First launch stream of the day is live; Falcon 9 launching Eutelsat 36D in T-55:00
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:00:28 UTC No. 16105379
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:07:01 UTC No. 16105386
>>16105380
It's not just kneecapped by the fact that Soyuz eats 95% of Russia's domestic payloads. It's also taking hits from the fact that there are still about ten Protons left in the stockpile and those are as both cheaper and more reliable. With Russia only having 1-2 payloads per year that need something like a Proton there's not much room in the market for the Proton's replacement.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:08:19 UTC No. 16105388
>>16105380
Who cares about this zigger rocket?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:09:36 UTC No. 16105391
>>16105296
so it possible
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:10:43 UTC No. 16105392
>>16105391
yeah, they might be useful for depot Starship or other Space Station Starship
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:28:13 UTC No. 16105415
>>16102853
>EDS ramblings
so no proofs?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:37:04 UTC No. 16105425
>>16105374
T-15:00
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:43:22 UTC No. 16105434
>>16105379
Next you're going to claim the oceans aren't Chinese despite the patently red reflection of the evening sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Y
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:53:33 UTC No. 16105443
nice daytime launch
Clear max-qute!
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 21:57:18 UTC No. 16105447
they can't keep getting away with it
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:01:31 UTC No. 16105455
Just 5 years ago the French were gloating about SpaceX being a small issue. Now look at the launch market. Falcon 9 is dominating everyone and everything, and France is becoming irrelevant
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:05:31 UTC No. 16105459
Landing confirmed.
>>16105455
>SpaceX 289 recovered boosters
>NASA 133 recovered shuttles and some SRBs
>Rocketlab a few recovered Electrons
>USSF a few flights of one X-37B
>Soviet Union one Buran flight
>China a few flights of one chinkplane
If Europe had any ambition at all remaining they'd be scrambling to catch up, but they don't.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:07:33 UTC No. 16105462
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1
damn it exploded (into space)
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:13:35 UTC No. 16105469
Uhh why is it stuck
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:13:56 UTC No. 16105470
>>16105459
i'm a euro and burgers can be obnoxious sometimes, but this is one of the things where they absolutely 100% deserve to be.
there are no words to described how dissapointed i am, ESA need to kill themselves.
also fuck the beurocracy that makes commercial spaceflight development so difficult for europeans, beurocrats need to be bullied into submission.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:14:37 UTC No. 16105472
>>16105459
>one X-37B
there's two they rotate
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:15:21 UTC No. 16105473
>>16105459
India's working on their own X-37 clone as well, and they plan to eventually develop that into reusable second stage tech
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:19:35 UTC No. 16105478
ICE HATE
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:21:28 UTC No. 16105479
>Moon and thunder/lightning in the Earth
kinooo
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:22:22 UTC No. 16105481
>>16105479
>lightning in the Earth
damn I thought it was actual proof of aliens
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:26:58 UTC No. 16105489
>>16105470
so long as esa is just a grouping of small national programs there's no hope, only way to catch up is to nuke geographic return (good fucking luck) and subsume the individual programs into a more top-down structure
also nuke EUSPA and divert all the funds going to that moneypit
also also kill all the DEI bullshit but that's even more wishful thinking than the other stuff
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:27:22 UTC No. 16105492
so boring its kino
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:27:34 UTC No. 16105493
>>16105454
funny how they want this thing to get catched by the chop stick arms and they cant even land it straight.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:27:35 UTC No. 16105494
>fades away into the darkness
spooky end
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:27:54 UTC No. 16105495
so next one in a few hours?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:28:42 UTC No. 16105498
>>16105494
wish satellite deploys were more cool than watching a glowing golden or silver box float away quickly into the distant darkness
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:30:10 UTC No. 16105501
>>16105498
Alas, the ground team for the satellite itself still need to wait to get their operations connection and perform payload checkouts before turning on their engines.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:31:28 UTC No. 16105503
>>16105501
sadge, wanna at least see automatic solar deployment or something
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:32:24 UTC No. 16105504
>>16105503
Once they get those Starlink satellite uplinks in place, they can probably start doing continuous uplinks on their satellites from launch to payload deployment.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:33:35 UTC No. 16105507
>>16105504
that would be sick, imagine the sat separating then immediately turning on those ion engines and deploying solar arrays, that would look so fucking cool from the payload camera
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:35:20 UTC No. 16105509
>>16105507
It would still be very slow. Satellite solar/radiator origami is done gradually to avoid torquing the whole satellite.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:35:41 UTC No. 16105510
>>16105507
That would look absolutely awesome. I bet some of SpaceX's customers would like having the chance to show off their payload after the launch like that too
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:36:19 UTC No. 16105513
>>16105509
ugh I hate how slow space is sometimes in all aspects
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:50:50 UTC No. 16105526
>>16105498
At least soyuz deploy their solar panels within seconds of separation.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:55:48 UTC No. 16105532
>>16105526
yeah I've seen that a few times, cool to watch
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:05:59 UTC No. 16105543
>>16105514
nobody fucking cares lol
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:07:29 UTC No. 16105545
>>16105514
>brr troon normie meme
go back to discord
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:08:54 UTC No. 16105547
>>16105514
Damn that booster is dark
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:09:41 UTC No. 16105549
>>16105547
just like Californians
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:10:15 UTC No. 16105550
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:10:15 UTC No. 16105551
ariane 5 launched 2 times in 2023, 3 times in 2022 and 2021
lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:11:32 UTC No. 16105557
>>16105551
>not including Vega launches
kill yourself lardass
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:15:58 UTC No. 16105565
>>16105557
why would I include them?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:19:04 UTC No. 16105569
>>16105550
Oops, I was a little distracted while sucking multiple cocks. I meant to post this one.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:20:12 UTC No. 16105570
>>16105493
>EDS concern trolling
They're not trying to catch F9 on a suicide burn with the chopstick arms. SS and SH can hover long enough to be caught.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:21:56 UTC No. 16105571
>>16105551
If you're going to do that there's a pair of Soyuz-ST launches that need to be tacked on
>>16105569
I'm so sorry to hear about your watermark allergy.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:27:25 UTC No. 16105574
>>16105455
As a euro i hope ariana space gets its shit kicked in hard.
Ariana is old space as fuck, they have all the resources and knowhow to shit out a falcon 9 clone if they really wanted too in less then a year, but doing that would destroy their business model.
Thank god for this south african dude rocking the boat.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:37:12 UTC No. 16105583
>>16105574
>they have all the resources and knowhow to shit out a falcon 9 clone if they really wanted too in less then a year
no they don't
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:47:52 UTC No. 16105593
>>16105569
the iconic american rocket of the 21st century even if spacex goes bankrupt tomorrow
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:51:33 UTC No. 16105597
>>16105583
Yes they can, but at the same time they never will with the current state of ESA&the european space market, how europe works in general.
For example, spaceX as a company could never have become what they are now if they started out in europe instead of the US because of EU laws.
All the workforce&engineers&production capability&etc... that spaceX uses in the US is also here in europe, but regulation&unions, etc... would never have allowed musk to bruteforce spaceX in europe like he did in the US.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:53:03 UTC No. 16105600
>>16105473
I really look forward to what they do with this tech in the 2040s lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:00:01 UTC No. 16105608
>>16103919
it's insane that this dude is actually an engineering team lead for NASA at Alabama working on HLS and SLS. he really gave himself EDS because he was butthurt people don't like SLS. I thought he was lying because clearly no one with a real job would post this much or act so unprofessionally online in discussions about their actual field, let alone their actual job.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:00:42 UTC No. 16105609
>>16105597
they could not do it in a year
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:01:15 UTC No. 16105610
>>16105606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwF
Starlink 6-45
T-60:00
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:02:36 UTC No. 16105611
>>16103919
Always fighting to the bitter end. F9 is now the safest rocket vehicle in history of the universe.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:04:46 UTC No. 16105613
>>16105611
I wonder how long it will take for Starship to take that crown from F9
before they land on mars?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:06:11 UTC No. 16105616
>>16105613
Guess on how many Starship will fly before (unmanned) Moon. Mars will be another ~50 launch after that.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:07:24 UTC No. 16105617
>>16105609
Like they are now, sure, never ever.
If they took the spaceX approach, with the money&knowhow they have, they could, but that will never happen.
i'm not trying to start some US vs EU thing here, i'm just saying that while the capability is there to have a EURO version of falcon 9, the will is not.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:09:06 UTC No. 16105620
>>16105617
They cant take the SpaceX approach because they dont have an Elon.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:11:06 UTC No. 16105624
>>16105620
Elon in the EU would never have reached the level he has now in the US.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:11:14 UTC No. 16105625
>>16105617
SpaceX couldn't do it in a year, no way in hell the french could, even with an unlimited budget
they could do it eventually and probably will, but a year? please
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:15:35 UTC No. 16105630
>>16105624
that's because europe is racist and he's african
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:17:58 UTC No. 16105632
>>16105630
Yeah, the EU is really anti white now.
this is not a joke btw.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:18:13 UTC No. 16105633
>>16105610
https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/
>SpaceX has pushed back its second launch of the night to 9:30 p.m. EDT (0130 UTC).
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:24:17 UTC No. 16105636
what's with euros and thinking their country can do X in one year if they really tried? there was that German who was convinced Germany was secretly still the greatest engineers on earth and could build Starship in one year if only they tried
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:31:35 UTC No. 16105643
>>16105636
>What's with americans thinking they can steal the glory of non americans achievements in space exploration?
it's that easy to troll, i'm not here to start shit, and the "1 year" thing was stupid, but i'm also really tired of US /sfg/ posters being smug as fuck about the achievements of spaceX while only a few years ago you guys where riding bitch on a soyuz like the rest of us.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:32:22 UTC No. 16105644
>>16105636
It's cope to avoid having to ask for reasons behind decline. It stinks in exactly the same way as Americans (mostly leftists) insisting we could recreate the feats of industrial production and mass combat we did in WW2 today.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:37:29 UTC No. 16105652
>>16105643
K.
btw do you know why A6 isn't reusable? because I do, because the director told us in an interview. it's because a reusable rocket would be reusable, IE they wouldn't need to build a rocket for every launch, and then the factories would have less work, and that wouldn't have been acceptable.
Much respect to the french generally but Jesus Christ. You euros need to get your shit together, you need to decide on a strategy and stick to it. You are going to be two or three generations behind.
and the botched transition from A5 to A6 is inexcusable. there was concern across the industry the moment the plan was announced and it was arrogantly brushed off
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:42:41 UTC No. 16105655
>>16105652
Anon, i get you, i really do, but you say these thing while SLS in the US is still talked about as the fucking rocket that will get people to the moon to this fucking day.
ESA would shit itself in confusion over getting the budget that goes in to SLS.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:43:51 UTC No. 16105656
>>16105655
kek yeah fair enough we all have our sins
I wonder what the Chinese equivalent of Alabama river rocks is
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:45:22 UTC No. 16105661
>>16105570
>SS and SH can hover long enough to be caught.
It's not that easy.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:46:09 UTC No. 16105662
>>16105656
>I wonder what the Chinese equivalent of Alabama river rocks is
hypergolic first stages droping on rural chinese towns and the CCP harvesting the organs of the survivors.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:47:33 UTC No. 16105664
>>16105662
*eating
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:47:53 UTC No. 16105665
>>16104376
Producing the wafers is not the problem with semiconductor manufacturing. Semiconductors aren't going to be produced in space in "10+ years" unless you assume very large amounts of +. I guess you could produce the wafers? Also bigger wafers come with other problems for the semiconductor part so that wouldn't be that useful, either.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:48:25 UTC No. 16105666
>>16105644
we literally can't, we lost that technology and it would be a painful process to build it back up again
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:50:18 UTC No. 16105668
>>16105652
>a reusable rocket would be reusable and then the factories would have less work, and that wouldn't have been acceptable.
This is because they lack ambition and vision. They can't see a launch market that's larger that eleven payloads per year. Falcon 9 is reusable and the factory at Hawthorne is going at 110% seven days a week churning out second stages.
What they need to do is go all in on payloads. They're never going to be able to catch up with launch vehicles but they're not nearly as dysfunctional when it comes to building probes and satellites. The problem there is that there are a number of newspace companies that are getting into satellite bus manufacture and they're probably not going to be too much longer before they overtake Airbus, Boeing, Lockheed, etc.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:54:54 UTC No. 16105671
>>16105668
I agree with you. by focusing on payloads they can also create a market for rockets down the line. just mandate certain "national security" launches have to be on yuro rockets and you can at least keep some sovreign launch capabilities going.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 00:58:39 UTC No. 16105674
>>16105668
>>16105671
There is no market for big payloads yet outside of LEO, oldspace knows this.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:02:47 UTC No. 16105682
>>16105673
Congratulations to them?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:05:43 UTC No. 16105687
paceX
@SpaceX
·
10m
35 minutes to launch, propellant is flowing into Falcon 9 for tonight’s mission taking 23 @Starlink
satellites to low-Earth orbit from Florida. All systems are ready and weather looks perfect for launch
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:15:48 UTC No. 16105699
>>16105682
shut the fuck up.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:17:09 UTC No. 16105701
>>16105673
digital art isnt art
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:24:19 UTC No. 16105708
>>16105701
its 2024 not 2004
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:26:13 UTC No. 16105711
>>16105701
People claimed movie wasn't art a hundred years ago.
Radio before that.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:30:45 UTC No. 16105718
I feel nothing
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:31:01 UTC No. 16105719
>>16105715
too much lag.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:31:35 UTC No. 16105720
>>16105718
What you do not feel is called Iocaine Powder. It is odorless, tasteless, dissolves instantly in liquids, and is among the more deadly poisons.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:34:25 UTC No. 16105726
>>16105711
And they were right?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:36:28 UTC No. 16105729
>>16105726
Anon, sit down and watch the first shrek movie, and then come back here and say to my face that it isnt the penical of modern art.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:38:33 UTC No. 16105733
>>16105721
>ULA holds it
>HOLDS IT
>HOLDS IT!
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:56:56 UTC No. 16105747
>>16105662
>hypergolic first stages droping on rural chinese towns
You burgers also have a history of napalming a 60 mile radius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWi
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:37:31 UTC No. 16105774
>>16105747
Exclusion zones are a thing for a reason, my wumao friend
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:40:03 UTC No. 16105776
>>16105747
>angry bug noises
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:48:45 UTC No. 16105784
>>16105774
bugman upset he has to subsist on pumpkin spice fumes and will never experience the joy of an uncontrolled ammonium percolate fire
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:58:38 UTC No. 16105789
>>16105747
>>hypergorric first stagers dwopping on rura chinee town
>yu burga awso have a histowee of napamingr a shixty miwe wadius
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:23:22 UTC No. 16105811
So no?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:24:24 UTC No. 16105812
SpaceX double-header today made my local news for some reason, pretty cool
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:27:22 UTC No. 16105815
Pinned
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SpaceX
@SpaceX
·
Mar 14
Watch Starship’s third flight test http://spacex.com/launches
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SpaceX
@SpaceX
Starship's Third Flight Test
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SpaceX
@SpaceX
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29m
Up next, teams in California are readying to launch Falcon 9 from pad 4E while also keeping a close eye on the weather http://spacex.com/launches
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:27:58 UTC No. 16105816
Just shit my panets
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:32:54 UTC No. 16105818
>>16102667
2>days ago
oh s/fg/ is dead, ded
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:43:22 UTC No. 16105829
>>16105462
did it also fire all its guns at once?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:46:12 UTC No. 16105833
>>16105701
but you just called it art
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:48:54 UTC No. 16105835
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:50:11 UTC No. 16105837
>>16105815
>29m
this shitty tweet got 29m views? holy shit SpaceX is dominating the website.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:50:33 UTC No. 16105838
>>16105835
This.. this is true arte
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:51:33 UTC No. 16105840
>>16105837
Square profile picture
SpaceX
@SpaceX
Up next, teams in California are readying to launch Falcon 9 from pad 4E while also keeping a close eye on the weather http://spacex.com/launches
10:57 PM · Mar 30, 2024
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Views
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:53:10 UTC No. 16105843
>>16105837
Anonymous 2 minutes ago No.16105837>>16105840>>16105815
29m
this shitty tweet got 29m views? holy shit SpaceX is dominating the website.
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900k
Views
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 03:57:05 UTC No. 16105847
>>16104670
For a ship of this shape and proportion, I'd recommend playing J-Pop and hetero kissing videos in their general direction.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:09:56 UTC No. 16105862
Square profile picture
SpaceX
@SpaceX
Standing down from tonights launch of Falcon 9 from pad 4E while also keeping a close eye on the weather http://spacex.com/launches
12:09 AM · Mar 31, 2024
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Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:11:12 UTC No. 16105863
>SpaceX adjusted the launch time again for its third Falcon 9 flight of the day. The new T-0 liftoff of the Starlink 7-18 mission is now 10:28 p.m. PT (1:28 a.m. ET, 0528 UTC).
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:11:20 UTC No. 16105864
Keep me posted.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:33:35 UTC No. 16105887
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:19:17 UTC No. 16105919
>>16105261
I'm really surprised that no one thought to start using Soyuz as an insult on this site to bypass the filter.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:23:28 UTC No. 16105921
>>16105919
I think it only works on /sci/ but I haven't tested it
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:28:32 UTC No. 16105924
>>16105711
Movies existed before radio.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 07:13:45 UTC No. 16105975
>>16105661
It's just not that easy in rocketry.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 07:19:25 UTC No. 16105978
>>16105655
ESA with SLS's budget would not be able to produce an SLS, the EU's geographical return is all the worst aspects of oldspace dialed to 11
https://europeanspaceflight.com/cne