🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:00:36 UTC No. 16244897
Shartliner Stranded Edition
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Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:05:36 UTC No. 16244906
Good job, sir.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:07:29 UTC No. 16244912
>>16244907
>not the topical version
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:07:31 UTC No. 16244913
>>16244897
SO SURREAL THAT AMERICAN ASTRONAUTS ARE BACK IN SPACE AGAIN AFTER THE SHUTTLE. THATNKS TO BOEING CORP FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN. REAL SPACEFLIGHT ENTHUSIASTS SHOULD BE CHEERING THIS AND NOT SOME STEEL TUBE DUMPSTERFIRE
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:10:58 UTC No. 16244917
>>16244912
My bad. No thruster version?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:12:25 UTC No. 16244920
Worst bait ever
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:13:18 UTC No. 16244921
>>16244918
SLS is so pretty I wish it were a better rocket
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:13:38 UTC No. 16244922
>>16244913
>no 'space flight' in bait
awful show
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:16:44 UTC No. 16244924
>>16244921
I would love this rocket if it could actually launch 4-6 times a year for its current budget
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:16:52 UTC No. 16244925
>>16244921
Its ugly, and I am a contrarian who wants to like it. But I can't. Every aspect of it is gay and uninspiring :P
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:20:31 UTC No. 16244931
>>16244918
didn't most of those CubeSats fail because their batteries were drained from the multiple launch scrubs?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:21:03 UTC No. 16244932
>>16244925
>colon p emoticon
TRANNY DETECTED
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:23:27 UTC No. 16244934
>>16244921
Why did the big dumb booster concept fail?
It worked in pic related with spare shuttle engines
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:28:05 UTC No. 16244938
>>16244933
i just wish theyd kept the structural paint.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:29:43 UTC No. 16244940
Some goober split threads btw. Its a CNN screenshot thread too. Everyone go mark it as 'spamming/flooding'.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:31:31 UTC No. 16244941
>>16244940
It's off by 18 seconds. looks like an honest mistake to me
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:31:44 UTC No. 16244942
>>16244934
The big dumb booster was an attractive idea because it was supposed to be cheap. Shuttle engines aren't cheap because they weren't designed to be and there are hardly any spares anyway. Also that's science fiction.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:34:32 UTC No. 16244945
>>16244941
I'm not trying to antagonize him but it still needs to be removed off the catalogue even if it is. We cant be shitting up the catty and thread OPs cant delete threads only jannies or mods or whatever can so we have to get them to do it. It also doesnt help /sfg/ to be split between multiple threads, discussion is better if concentrated in one thread.
Also even with 18 second difference I always keep a separate tab open and refresh it right before hitting the 'Post' button just in case things like this happen.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:38:13 UTC No. 16244949
>>16244942
Then why does SLS look like a BDB and uses shuttle engines?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:47:03 UTC No. 16244951
>>16244949
the disadvantages of both and the benefits of neither
AKA a classical governmental project
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:49:45 UTC No. 16244953
>>16244918
>inb4 Musk starts paying customers to launch on Starship
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:03:20 UTC No. 16244959
>>16244918
Congress paid for that piece of shit with my money
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:03:53 UTC No. 16244960
>>16244918
>David Willis
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:06:46 UTC No. 16244963
>>16244934
>>16244942
I still want to know what Beal thinks about SpaceX BDB-like stuff with the help of his old facilities. Some space journo should interview him
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:08:53 UTC No. 16244964
Is there 20 years of recycled air on the ISS? How often does the station get a full top off of new nitrogen and oxygen
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:13:02 UTC No. 16244967
>>16244934
Get this
No shit
They really (laughs)
They they they actually
Reuse - get this - the solid boosters
and (out of breath)
they (crying)
THROW AWAY the the the fucking hydrolox engines
Hahahahaha
no no no you don't get it
The
The thing is
These engines
that they throw away
WERE DESIGNED TO BE REUSABLE
HAHAHABAHAHAHAHA
Oh they must mass produce-
NOPE
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:13:49 UTC No. 16244968
>>16244967
does it really matter if its only gonna launch 0.5-1 times per year?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:24:24 UTC No. 16244972
>>16244918
>government agency gets government funding
Gigabrain thinking there anon
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:28:49 UTC No. 16244975
>>16244967
I thought they threw away both.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:35:48 UTC No. 16244980
>>16244918
I makes me so mad that people think like this even though you're trolling
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:36:45 UTC No. 16244983
>>16244918
It looks cool but now that it's been proven that reusable, landable rockets work, non-reusable rockets are a wasteful dead end.
Especially when they are as ridiculously fucking expensive as the SLS.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:46:09 UTC No. 16244991
>>16244968
Yeah when the engines are like 250m a piece it does matter
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:47:07 UTC No. 16244992
what're you gonna set your personal tiger team of superintelligent AI agents out to do first, /sfg/? i'm thinking that starting off on boring shit like materials and electronics probably needs to happen before you move onto the good stuff like engines.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:54:59 UTC No. 16244997
>>16244992
Bioweapons lab that genetically designs a virus that kills Indians only with a 100% death rate. This is important for the future of space flight, despite what it will do to tesla's stock price
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 02:58:48 UTC No. 16245000
>>16244992
In situ resource utilization is what almost all the focus should be on right now once we reach the Moon and Mars
there will be zero progress in /sfg/ without it
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:04:57 UTC No. 16245004
>>16244997
that's not very nice. and India is a competitive spacefaring nation. maybe kill europeans. they can't seem to into space.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:07:37 UTC No. 16245007
>>16245004
just trust me it's important. lots of enclosed spaces with recycled air in our future. just trust me
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:18:00 UTC No. 16245013
>>16244918
This is unironically communism.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:19:32 UTC No. 16245014
>>16245011
Nobody thinks that's a slur anon.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:20:22 UTC No. 16245015
>>16245004
silence poo
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:23:19 UTC No. 16245017
>>16245004
>kill europeans. they can't seem to into space
honestly this, crazy how a continent that loves to talk so much smack about the US still have not sent a man into space on there own.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:33:01 UTC No. 16245024
>>16245004
Shut up shitjeet
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:34:15 UTC No. 16245027
>>16244949
that's what you get when politicians design your rocket
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:40:28 UTC No. 16245031
>>16245015
>>16245024
sorry fags, I'm a hu-white American. but real recognize real and India is putting in the work. keep being racist on 4chan though, maybe it'll make your country better at spaceflight
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:41:37 UTC No. 16245032
>>16245004
>>16245031
He's right. In terms of spaceflight India is well ahead of Yurop
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:42:48 UTC No. 16245033
>>16245031
You have the hands of someone who's never worked a day in your life.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:43:35 UTC No. 16245034
let us have a moment of silence for the 2 astronauts who will be riding the boeing to their deaths.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:44:47 UTC No. 16245035
>>16245033
It's the fuckin military schizo cult of passion
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:45:22 UTC No. 16245036
>>16244918
low price is not low cost
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:47:03 UTC No. 16245038
>>16245034
they signed up for it
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:52:11 UTC No. 16245039
>>16245031
>muh gun
cringe, low IQ
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:56:57 UTC No. 16245042
>>16245031
>month day year
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 03:58:48 UTC No. 16245043
>>16245042
deal with it
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:00:28 UTC No. 16245044
>>16245038
Did they though? Arent they just on a list and NASA assigns their rides?
>ah sorry dude we know you were scheduled for the next crew dragon but we had to shuffle some things around and now you are on starliner
Just fuck my shit up
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:02:10 UTC No. 16245045
>>16245031
>simping for jeets
Honorary street shitter, hand in your gun and toilet. Also you'll be racist when you get 50k poojeets delivered into your neighbourhood.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:04:59 UTC No. 16245049
>>16245042
Go back. Now.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:16:32 UTC No. 16245056
>>16244934
Stephen Baxter is a retard
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:21:54 UTC No. 16245061
>>16245059
found pdf
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:23:09 UTC No. 16245062
So they have a plan for block 2 of the SLS
but do they have a plan to make Orion's service module not suck complete ass
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:24:43 UTC No. 16245063
>>16245062
>block 2
>sls
Pick one
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:25:22 UTC No. 16245064
>>16245059
>>16245061
why isn't the cleansing of former british raj anywhere on this list, this is essential
>>16245031
you ever had to ride a bus with one of these guys? imagine sharing a space station. horrific
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:26:40 UTC No. 16245065
>>16245064
Imagine the reactions when new visitors unseal the hatch
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:27:39 UTC No. 16245066
HEY YOU DUMB NIGGER CATTLE VOTE ON >>16245057 THIS STRAWPOLL ALREADY
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:28:47 UTC No. 16245067
>>16245061
The first two steps on the critical path are a tragedy.
>1. Shuttle
>2. ISS
Doomed. Imagine being so optimistic and watching nothing happen for 30 years
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:31:42 UTC No. 16245070
>>16245066
most pointless poll ever
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:31:49 UTC No. 16245071
Good thank you for submitting your votes anons
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:32:50 UTC No. 16245072
>>16245070
Every poll is pointless since it has no basis on the outcome. What is YOUR point?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:36:21 UTC No. 16245076
>>16245072
mongolian basketweaving forum posts, on the other hand...
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:36:51 UTC No. 16245077
>>16245061
It has that tragic air of 80s and 90s spaceflight enthusiast hope-in-the-face-of-doom.
Was this ever updated?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:38:06 UTC No. 16245078
>>16245076
Sir this is clearly a mexican propellant tank building forum
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:40:34 UTC No. 16245080
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:40:49 UTC No. 16245082
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:41:49 UTC No. 16245084
>>16245080
Kek so true (am burgermutt)
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:46:09 UTC No. 16245085
>>16245081
>>16245084
Next time rename your files, faggot.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:48:23 UTC No. 16245086
>>16245085
No thanks I'm currently phone fagging and that takes too much effort. If that needs to be done to samefag I will post from my PC.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:48:58 UTC No. 16245087
>>16245061
what is shuttle II?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:52:22 UTC No. 16245088
why don't we send a dirigible to Venus?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:53:50 UTC No. 16245090
>>16245087
oh hey i wonder if skyhook anon is still around...
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:57:37 UTC No. 16245095
>>16245090
Why a skyhook? If you can build a tether for a skyhook surely you can also build one for a regular space elevator. Then you don't have to try and dock with a cable at hypersonic speeds
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:01:14 UTC No. 16245100
Oh. It's the 26th the starliner crew returns on. 12 day delay. Will that fuck onboard supplies
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:05:14 UTC No. 16245104
>>16245087
there was a general expectation up through the 1990s that shuttle would be replaced by an improved spaceplane. you'll occasionally see people refer to a particular design with an ejectable cockpit from JSC in the early 90s as shuttle ii, but there were in fact many designs thrown around over many years. the only time we came close to getting a shuttle ii was venturestar.
>>16245095
i'm pretty sure skyhook is being used to mean a space elevator in this case. it's meant different things to different people over the years.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:05:18 UTC No. 16245105
>>16245100
They have to be mad to step back into that deathtrap. I wonder if the NASA niggers are going to can it because another shuttle tier rud would be a pr disaster. They really should just punt the fucking thing away with the canadarm, bring the crew down on the next dragon and tell boeing to get their shit together.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:12:14 UTC No. 16245110
>>16244931
correct. One of the victims was the NEAR solar sail asteroid mission
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:12:23 UTC No. 16245112
>>16245105
>They really should just punt the fucking thing away with the canadarm, bring the crew down on the next dragon and tell boeing to get their shit together
But then Boeing's stock price would go down, and that would be bad for all the congressmen who own Boeing stock.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:19:41 UTC No. 16245116
>>16245112
Would it be worse than them immolating two astronauts
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:23:37 UTC No. 16245121
>>16245116
Uh, yes? Ensuring the profits of billionaire stockholders and insider trading congressmen is literally more important than anything else on the planet. They create jobs, anon. How many jobs have these astronauts created? How many times have THEY been to Bohemian Grove? Exactly.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:24:32 UTC No. 16245125
>>16245031
Huwaito piggu
GO HO!!!
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:24:44 UTC No. 16245126
>>16245116
They can blame that on pilot error
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:25:32 UTC No. 16245127
https://x.com/johncoogan/status/180
Hand-held sized nuclear fusion device. Costs ~$100K to build.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:27:02 UTC No. 16245128
>>16245127
saaarrrrr fusion is impossible please understand
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:27:36 UTC No. 16245129
>>16245127
not spaceflight and not real
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:29:05 UTC No. 16245130
>>16245129
Can be used in space and founded by former BO employee
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:30:34 UTC No. 16245131
>>16245130
>Can be used in space
incorrect, only real things can be used in space. VC-bait vaporware will not work there.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:31:50 UTC No. 16245132
>>16245131
No no actually watch the vid its interesting and actual spaceflight discussion. Am not the original anon.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:42:53 UTC No. 16245139
>>16245130
>former BO employee
Lol lmao even
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:45:11 UTC No. 16245141
>>16245132
i'm skipping through it and my original opinion stands. like helion they're acting like they're going to get an unproven fusion concept finished and commercialized in short order because hey, spacex did something hard once too. except this is a much harder problem than anything spacex has ever done and we still aren't sure it's going to work at all.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:05:23 UTC No. 16245157
>>16245127
I'm pretty optimistic about fusion and about "vaporware" companies but this is just ridiculous. They're claiming they can get energy from fusion AND they can do it without magnets and lasers somehow AND they can do it in a reactor the size of a PC somehow, that's 3 insane technological leaps in one. Even with all of those it's unlikely the energy produced is profitable.
I don't see it, though it would be cool
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:05:25 UTC No. 16245158
>>16245127
This bullish-bearish terminology needs to fuck off
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:14:59 UTC No. 16245166
>>16245158
why are indians such insufferable pseuds?
lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:17:20 UTC No. 16245168
>>16245166
There are 1.4b of them you will find every type of person in India.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:21:44 UTC No. 16245172
>>16245168
>>16245166
There are psued everywhere in a 8+ billion world. We have multiple psueds who believe SpaceX is a fraud/Musk is a fraud/etc in just space domain. And space industry only occupies ~0.01% of the imagination of people. Each separate domain has their own pseuds.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:22:13 UTC No. 16245174
>>16245168
at least 1.35b of them are insufferable pseuds
change my mind
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:28:59 UTC No. 16245179
>>16245166
Long term occupation by foreign powers selects for smooth talkers and ass kissers
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:32:45 UTC No. 16245182
>>16245179
I'm inclined to somewhat agree with this argument... it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:33:32 UTC No. 16245183
>>16245061
>barely progressed 10 years (1998 tier) in 35 years
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:36:56 UTC No. 16245188
>>16245168
except for one who can poo in loo
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 06:51:56 UTC No. 16245194
https://x.com/jenakuns/status/18039
>From the Source Selection for the MSR studies:
>- Starship used up to landing (and potentially for ascent), with a demo mission targeted in 2029
>- Blue Moon doing entirely propulsive EDL + Blue built hypergolic MAV
>- Aerojet using skycrane + (maybe) hydrolox ascent vehicle
full FOIA'd pdf attached
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:09:48 UTC No. 16245206
>>16245059
>>16245061
we're only 20 years behind schedule, not great not terrible
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:15:08 UTC No. 16245213
Jesus Christ is the Son of God & promises you eternal life if you simply believe Him.*
*He promised to also heal your body. (Just ask Him)*
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:20:27 UTC No. 16245216
>>16245194
Blue Origin can only do all-propulsive EDL with an aerospike
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:23:05 UTC No. 16245220
>>16244690
ayy nudes when?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:23:25 UTC No. 16245221
>>16245213
Done. My back still hurts.
3/10 wouldn't worship again.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:29:47 UTC No. 16245225
>>16245216
you don't need a heatshield at all on mars if you're doing all-propulsive and new glenn would give them more than enough mass to pull it off
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:39:01 UTC No. 16245227
>>16245225
It would be foolish to do it with a bell nozzle, absolutely retardedly inefficient. Mars' atmosphere is a free brake. An aerospike by design must be very heat resistant. Blue Origin has a patented aerospike, and is reportedly incorporating it into Jarvis.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:45:43 UTC No. 16245231
>>16245227
>aerospike
meme
>Jarvis
meme
>Blue Origin
barely not a meme
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:47:19 UTC No. 16245232
>>16245227
>absolutely retardedly inefficient
not when you have excess margin for a sample return and it can save you the trouble of designing something that has to handle aerodynamic entry
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:50:22 UTC No. 16245234
>>16245157
Clearly they're time travelers or assisted by them.
https://avalanchefusion.com/
>working to bring fusion back from the future
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 07:52:56 UTC No. 16245237
>>16245232
Blue Origin is king at overdesigning and complexifying. With BO there is no such thing as extra margin lol
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:21:07 UTC No. 16245262
>>16245095
>If you can build a tether for a skyhook surely you can also build one for a regular space elevator.
false
the material requirements are totally different
the total mass is totally different
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:33:30 UTC No. 16245274
>>16244897
#teamboeing
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:35:52 UTC No. 16245277
>>16245274
>helps them feel seen and heard
what is peoples obsession with being validated by everyone they ever may or may not come in contact with?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:38:46 UTC No. 16245280
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status
>Saturday. Set your alarms for 9:00 a.m. Central [14:00 UTC]. Be sure you're subscribed and have notifications on. If you're a supporter, I'll have the review link ready tomorrow. Excited for you to see this!
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:41:55 UTC No. 16245282
>>16245280
ANY /SFG/ PAYPIGGIES PLEASE POST THE LINK TODAY (FRIDAY) WHEN POSTED
Oldfag at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:53:28 UTC No. 16245284
>>16245282
Spastic
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:56:36 UTC No. 16245286
>>16245284
Hey dude! Tongue my anus!!
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:56:57 UTC No. 16245287
>>16245084
>americans invent name for a certain group of people within america
>non-americans coopt it and just use it to refer to all americans
Is this going to become a recurring thing?
Oldfag at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:58:38 UTC No. 16245291
>>16245286
LAL
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:06:11 UTC No. 16245300
anything interesting from the boeing CEO deposition?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:11:53 UTC No. 16245304
>>16245287
It has been for centuries. Everything from "yankee" to "cowboy" to "neocon" (dumb browns call anyone who supports any use of the US military a neocon) gets aped.
Oldfag at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:17:39 UTC No. 16245309
>>16245286
Cause it was made pretty by a God it would actually be a good thing. Screaming slave boi.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:21:54 UTC No. 16245312
>>16244997
>genetically designs a virus that kills Indians only with a 100% death rate
a particularly bad strain of Hepatitis A would do
>It is usually spread by eating food or drinking water contaminated with infected feces.
then again, their immune system must be so overdrive they might not even notice
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:30:09 UTC No. 16245318
>>16245077
>Was this ever updated?
yes in 1997
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:30:35 UTC No. 16245319
>>16245312
>then again, their immune system must be so overdrive they might not even notice
https://youtu.be/4MK5o9Vhiqk?si=yIe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xn
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:37:04 UTC No. 16245327
>>16245095
>Then you don't have to try and dock with a cable at hypersonic speeds
Its not the speed so much as the rather small time available to mate your cargo pod with the receiver on the skyhook tip
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:51:33 UTC No. 16245340
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:06:29 UTC No. 16245348
>>16244968
>per year?
Try per decade.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:13:39 UTC No. 16245354
>>16245318
newest version is 1997? lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:21:31 UTC No. 16245365
>>16245318
They were pretty optimistic
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:24:26 UTC No. 16245369
>>16245365
>intergalactic stage in 2100
yes, very optimistic.
this is mass effect tier tech development speed.
I still hope we will find some alien artefact that will allow a 500 year technology jump, that would be so fucking cool.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:26:23 UTC No. 16245371
>>16245369
It says
>intragalactic
That means within the galaxy so merely going to Alpha Centauri counts
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:27:41 UTC No. 16245372
>>16245371
oh that's right I read it wrong.
maybe it's possible to get a generation ship to proxima before 2100... if no great filter event happens.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:28:58 UTC No. 16245374
>>16245354
if you closely compare the two you see the meme projects of the late 80s drop out and get replaced by the meme projects of the late 90s
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:33:56 UTC No. 16245381
>>16245374
let's hope Artemis will not become yet another meme project.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:39:31 UTC No. 16245387
>>16245374
Can you return from Mars in such a way as to pick up the route and stop at EML2?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:48:58 UTC No. 16245391
>>16245387
absolutely. gateway has its name because it was justified as a testbed for a future electric propulsion craft to send stuff from NRHO to mars - saves a bunch of time if you don't have to spiral out of earth's gravity well first. it's probably never going to happen but if you imagine a world where we never went beyond falcon heavy it'd make a lot of sense.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:55:12 UTC No. 16245394
>>16245061
>Ad Astra
kino
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:01:32 UTC No. 16245400
>>16245374
since we're talking about meme projects... I didn't know the dearMoon mission was cancelled!
wtf!
any news about that? was it just delayed or...?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:04:06 UTC No. 16245402
>>16245400
Cancelled by MZ after he watched a thunderf00t vid and realized that Musk is con man
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:05:12 UTC No. 16245405
>>16245400
Japanese guy didn't get the memo that SpaceX takes 5 times longer to do things than they say it would take.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:12:35 UTC No. 16245414
>>16245402
LEL
>>16245405
yeah but I was hopeful it was merely elon time and not an outright cancellation! Probably waiting 10 or whatever years more than predicted had its cost too for MZ.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:14:17 UTC No. 16245418
How's the first catch attempt going to fail?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:16:01 UTC No. 16245420
>>16245414
There was also the matter that his little rags business hadn't been doing so well lately. Lose a billion of your money and you will rethink things.
And going up to ISS partly satisfied his urge to go to space.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:16:02 UTC No. 16245421
>>16245418
spectacularly
that's why they're building a second tower already
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:16:14 UTC No. 16245422
>>16245274
>>16245275
>>16245279
Llaughing at their diverstiiy hire eprogram ias all fine, but the real pproblem at 'Boeing' is that they have inherited teh MDD management practices that roughly translate to 'welll whoopsie looks like our aircraft just keep exploding and falling from the sky, sorry about that'
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:21:21 UTC No. 16245429
>>16245096
A habitat. Feels so much like home that you can be born and die within it and not be bothered too much. Important for <1% light speed interstellar travel
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:23:24 UTC No. 16245431
>>16245096
Craftworld from 40k
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:24:43 UTC No. 16245433
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:35:10 UTC No. 16245440
>>16245420
>>16245414
>>16245405
>>16245400
the jap got ripped the fuck off. he was going to fly around the moon on falcon heavy which would have definitely happened by now, but elon did what elon does and persuaded him to spend hundreds of millions more to delay his own flight by a decade, LOL
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:40:12 UTC No. 16245446
>>16245042
>month day year
>June 21, 2024
Yes, its easy to say.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:40:13 UTC No. 16245447
>>16245440
Elon was actually incredible by proving that you can finance multiple (ultimately successful and revolutionary) projects by building one Ponzi scheme on top of the other.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:42:38 UTC No. 16245449
>>16245440
>fly around the moon on falcon heavy
Elon was directly threatened by a senator who told him that if Falcon Heavy publicly demonstrated the capabilities of the SLS, SpaceX would never receive another penny from NASA. This is also what cancelled Red Dragon.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:44:06 UTC No. 16245453
>>16245449
Proofs?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:44:15 UTC No. 16245454
>>16245234
They're clearly referencing the Mr. Fusion from back to the future
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:46:02 UTC No. 16245457
>>16245454
>Mr. Fusion from back to the future
The what from where?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:46:11 UTC No. 16245458
>>16245453
Do you honestly think there would be a primary source for a fucking senator secretly making threats? The only reason we know about it at all is insiders posting anonymously online
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:46:28 UTC No. 16245459
>>16245234
>https://avalanchefusion.com/
this shit is laughable do any investors actually put their money in this?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:47:42 UTC No. 16245460
>>16245450
>marrying a moon rabbit
makes sense
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:48:34 UTC No. 16245461
>>16245059
>>16245061
Rockwell was dangerously based
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:50:37 UTC No. 16245465
>>16244933
Stripes where a extra billion.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:51:38 UTC No. 16245467
>>16245027
Old space is a ugly thing.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:53:07 UTC No. 16245469
>>16245457
>https://youtu.be/ptlhgFaB89Y?si=c-
You must be 18 years old or older to post on 4chan.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:54:27 UTC No. 16245473
>>16245096
A place where you can get a gundam sized monster wafiu
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:54:46 UTC No. 16245474
>>16245469
I'm 23 and I've never heard of this show
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:55:15 UTC No. 16245475
>>16245104
its a shame NASA fully abandoned reusability. Shuttle was an utter flop but they could have remedied so many problems with a new shuttle. I would go as far as saying they were in a better position than SpaceX is today from a position of knowing exactly what the problems are.
Venturestar was a masterclass in retardation. Whoever approved an SSTO (or 1.5 stage to orbit or whatever it was) was nuts
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:56:00 UTC No. 16245476
>>16245474
Good, that means no hollywood jew will think about making a woke reboot to profit of nostalgia.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:56:05 UTC No. 16245477
>>16245469
anon 18 year olds were born 17 years after this movie came out
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:57:02 UTC No. 16245478
>>16245475
>Venturestar was a masterclass in retardation. Whoever approved an SSTO (or 1.5 stage to orbit or whatever it was) was nuts
No.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:57:39 UTC No. 16245479
>>16245474
hes a 60 year old millenial who has forgotten that its not 2014 anymore
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:58:02 UTC No. 16245480
>>16245474
jesus fucking christ
you have no memory of pic related?
zoomers are disheartening for real
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:58:28 UTC No. 16245483
>>16245469
>manchild is angry because someone didn't consume the same product
lol
grow up
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:59:31 UTC No. 16245485
>>16245478
aerospikes are meme tech with lower performance in all regimes than bell nozzles. the only advantage is that they can be used as a heat shield, which venturestar was not even going to do. It was scrapped because the tanks were too heavy and the specific impulse of the engine was el atrociad
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 11:59:35 UTC No. 16245486
>>16245483
dude BTTF is a fundamental piece in the current scientific zeitgeist
it single-handedly motivated millions of european scientists to pursue a high effort, low reward career.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:01:46 UTC No. 16245489
>>16245486
Okay, good for them.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:04:33 UTC No. 16245493
>>16245440
yep he essentially ripped of the Japanese guy
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:05:36 UTC No. 16245496
>>16245473
sounds good to me
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:07:24 UTC No. 16245498
>>16245478
Aerospikes are pure autism. Fixating on a particular aspect - needing different nozzle shapes - above all else. Meanwhile, the actual solution (many small engines, some vacuum some not) was totally ignored.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:09:12 UTC No. 16245499
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:09:29 UTC No. 16245502
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:10:13 UTC No. 16245503
>>16245473
>ice layer protection
ok hear me out: ablative ice heatshields
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:12:01 UTC No. 16245508
>>16245498
the actual solution was having your vacuum and non-vacuum engines be the same engine, and it was a solved problem at the time goldin decided he wanted to go SSTO. why the greatest SSTO engine of all time wasn't considered is a total mystery to me.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:13:47 UTC No. 16245510
>>16245479
>>16245483
>It's current year unc
KYS
>>16245459
They're betting on moonshots, even if they only put in like 50k, if it works that'd transform in tens of millions.
Also to stay on topic some more detail on commercial MSR.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:21:28 UTC No. 16245522
>>16245510
>>16245459
the stupidity of VCs should never be underestimated. there are plenty who will dump cash into anything that says "fusion" on the label without taking 30 minutes to try to learn the difference between pie-in-the-sky companies and ones with viable designs like commonwealth's tokamak
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:24:35 UTC No. 16245525
>>16245508
SSTO is kino
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:26:33 UTC No. 16245527
>>16245478
enjoy your external cargo cuck canister lol
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:34:01 UTC No. 16245537
Do you think a timeline where nasa chose to go with something besides the shuttle would be a better or worse timeline?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:36:03 UTC No. 16245539
>>16245496
she can kiss my rocket anyday
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:37:54 UTC No. 16245542
>>16245539
Hi jeff bezos.
When is new glenn lauching?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:39:09 UTC No. 16245544
>>16245537
I think more about the timeline where the russians sold musk their old rockets and spaceX took a completly different route based on russian rocket tech and failed.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:42:46 UTC No. 16245552
>>16245544
The timeline where the russians sold elon the rocket is the timeline where spacex never gets started because has no reason to make his own rockets.
As well, spacex in our timeline takes most of their rocket design from the russians, musk said that the biggest influence on him was old soviet flight manuals. You can see this with the grid fins and kerolox cycle.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:45:37 UTC No. 16245554
>>16245087
Don't Call me a Homo
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:46:01 UTC No. 16245555
>>16245537
everyone likes to imagine better ones but shuttle's expensiveness ended up being an asset for nasa at times. their budget was going to get cut to the point that it could barely sustain a manned LEO program and no more, and if they'd gone with anything cheaper the cuts would've been more drastic. something like big G seems fun in retrospect but everyone in nasa at the time knew it meant doomsday.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:46:35 UTC No. 16245556
>>16245537
>Shuttle alternatives
NASA started shuttle development before Apollo 11. The only way would've been if NASA kept developing its' SHLLV technology into rockets like the Nova concept or NLS.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:52:49 UTC No. 16245561
>>16245510
>spacex has "excellent support from JPL"
Thats interesting, considering JPLs supposed extreme opposition to red dragon. Is this spacex playing politics or has JPL decided to switch camps?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:01:18 UTC No. 16245568
>>16245478
That was for the Space Shuttle
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:06:35 UTC No. 16245576
>>16245510
When are they going to make a decision?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:10:01 UTC No. 16245578
>>16245194
Who the fuck is whitting aerospace?
Their website is blank.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:11:56 UTC No. 16245582
>>16245450
wtf she's flat
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:21:42 UTC No. 16245599
>>16245598
It missed the ocean, sadly
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:24:22 UTC No. 16245603
>>16245598
I hope one of this pieces lands on me and cuts off one of my legs so I can apply for official NASA neetbucks
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:25:01 UTC No. 16245604
>>16245598
some things like fecal matter and thrash can safely be thrown out the airlock
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:31:12 UTC No. 16245612
Seems like a majority of /sfg/ thinks that IFT-5 is before mid August. If you havent yet vote in >>16245057
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:33:19 UTC No. 16245613
>>16245612
it is in two weeks
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:41:58 UTC No. 16245625
>>16245598
>Because this case falls outside the Space Liability Convention, there is no mechanism for a US citizen to seek claims from the US government for damage from space debris.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
grim
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:42:52 UTC No. 16245628
>>16245031
Oh Effeminate One, did you know that pissrael has patented technology to identify individuals based on the veins in their hands?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:42:55 UTC No. 16245629
>>16245613
squared
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:52:54 UTC No. 16245634
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:59:30 UTC No. 16245640
>>16245598
given the number of supposedly "demisable" stuff that end up on the ground, it seems the models saying "yeah this is going to burn up entirely in the atmosphere" are shit. I wouldn't be surprised if they find Starlink pieces in random places in the future
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:07:54 UTC No. 16245651
Why is SpaceX prioritising reusability instead of making Starship operational first? They could do a full orbit and decceleration burn on the next launch, maybe with another payload door test again, but they chose not to.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:11:37 UTC No. 16245657
>>16245651
Thats not how you design things fuckwit. Do you build your gaming PC with all the important bits like a good GPU and CPU in the beginning or do you first build it as your standard shitty office PC for no reason and THEN put in the gaming parts? No, you build it for what it needs to do first and dont do unnecessary detours. God some of you are so retarded
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:12:48 UTC No. 16245658
>>16245651
Well,
>orbit
Been done 10,000 times
>door
Really?
>reusable second stage
Never been done in a meaningful way.
Hard parts first
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:14:16 UTC No. 16245661
>>16245657
I have an old optiplex that I put a gtx 750, and ssd, and more ram in. whole thing cost $115 and it runs ps2/gamecube emulators great
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:15:03 UTC No. 16245664
WHERE'S MY FUCKIN TOUR TIM, YOU SAID IT RELEASES 9:00 AM FOR PATREON
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:15:10 UTC No. 16245665
>>16245661
Nobody cares retard. Not related to the analogy and not spaceflight fuck off
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:16:11 UTC No. 16245667
>>16245664
9AM west coast maybe?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:16:35 UTC No. 16245668
>>16245651
>Why is SpaceX prioritising reusability instead of making Starship operational first?
because they have falcon 9 and heavy so they can already keep the business going while they perfect starship
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:16:51 UTC No. 16245669
>>16245665
based irascible gatekeeper anon
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:17:40 UTC No. 16245670
>>16245664
spaceflight standard time is central US time
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:17:49 UTC No. 16245672
>>16245665
I also have an old atlas icbm that I put russian engines and a new centaur second stage on. runs high energy missions great
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:21:31 UTC No. 16245677
Tim Dodd spreadsheet reminder
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:24:10 UTC No. 16245681
>>16245677
good times
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:26:04 UTC No. 16245685
>>16245677
how long ago was it
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:27:39 UTC No. 16245686
>>16245677
those were the days
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:28:34 UTC No. 16245687
>>16245287
Non-Americans will continue to ape California and New York so long as Hollywood exists
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:28:42 UTC No. 16245689
>>16245625
Then there must similarly be no mechanism for the US government to seek claims from a citizen for damage to the ISS from Earther weaponry
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:29:52 UTC No. 16245691
>>16245687
I think it's getting better. A lot of young people prefer foreign entertainment, (including me).
Oldfag at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:30:03 UTC No. 16245692
Switch this fucking thread of now, get it off mah sci.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:30:33 UTC No. 16245693
>>16245405
Japanese fella lost all his money and didn't feel generous anymore
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:32:04 UTC No. 16245694
>>16245651
Bc they are moving fast as shit and the difference between trying to get reusability right out of the gate vs figuring it all out later would only be like a 1 or 2 year difference overall, and they figure they can keep up with all their time table projections anyways.
No one has been able to whip up engines, entire super heavy lift rockets, and implement changes on a whim the way SpaceX currently does.
Now for someone like BO I would say it would be smarter to do expendable first just to get the damn thing flying already
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:34:03 UTC No. 16245698
Remember to report the namefag, he comes from the rest of /sci/ and sounds like B*rkun
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:34:36 UTC No. 16245700
>>16245629
A cubic month?!
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:34:42 UTC No. 16245701
>>16245677
I was there
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:37:40 UTC No. 16245706
>>16245691
I have lived in foreign lands and it is truly depressing how much American TV and films foreigners watch. Doubly so if you're talking to one who can speak English.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:46:21 UTC No. 16245714
>>16245677
Absolute kino
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:55:32 UTC No. 16245723
>Sunspots AR3712 and 13 are so large, they're altering the sunrise, the two sunspots were easy to see as the sun rose in morning.
Both have 'beta-gamma-delta' magnetic fields that harbor energy for strong X-class flares.
https://x.com/ExploreCosmos_/status
just cool auroras or tech apocalypse /sfg/?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:02:15 UTC No. 16245728
>>16245723
Nothing but clouds and rain for me for the next five days, so bet on spectacular auroras.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:03:23 UTC No. 16245729
>>16245723
pretty nothingburger
Oldfag at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:04:00 UTC No. 16245730
>>16245728
Mouf
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:04:28 UTC No. 16245731
>>16245723
>tech apocalypse
I dont think a lot of /sfg/ anons would survive in that world.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:09:09 UTC No. 16245737
>>16245723
It'll miss us
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:09:41 UTC No. 16245738
>>16245651
Because theyre out of money, they cant keep destroying 36 raptors every launch, thats why theyre so worried about starship being reused.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:11:40 UTC No. 16245740
>>16245731
Some of us will. Some of you won't.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:12:08 UTC No. 16245741
>>16245658
>orbit
>Been done 10,000 times
Mm ive ner seen starship in orbit, or are you so retarded to think falcon 9 is the same thing as starship?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:12:31 UTC No. 16245742
>>16245737
F in advance for Venus
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:13:45 UTC No. 16245745
>>16245738
Musk just got paid over 50 billion by tesla.
Spacex ain't running out of money anytime soon.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:13:48 UTC No. 16245746
>>16244964
it's probably still mostly the same nitrogen but the oxygen is getting constantly cycled through
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:17:14 UTC No. 16245752
>>16245742
Venus could stand to loss some of that atmosphere the fat bitch
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:17:43 UTC No. 16245753
>>16245731
It'd take like half a day for any educated midwit to make a basic generator with all the random shit we have around.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:19:32 UTC No. 16245754
>>16245740
Nobody will in a worst case scenario carrington event.
All the nuclear plants&chemical plants in the world need a entire army of technicians and working infrastructure to keep them safe.
We would have a world full of pressure cookers full of deadly shit slowly reaching a boiling point until they pop and spread their poison all over the world.
Industry fires would spread like wildfire and the smoke&ash would destroy all flora&fauna.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:20:10 UTC No. 16245756
>>16245742
God I love the S-IV
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:21:32 UTC No. 16245758
>>16245723
only hope of me being freed from 4chan
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:22:03 UTC No. 16245759
>>16245731
I definitely would not.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:22:36 UTC No. 16245761
>>16245754
>Nobody will in a worst case scenario carrington event.
Incorrect, failure of imagination and will.
Reminder that humanity survived Toba. Some of us will be fine, most of you won't.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:24:09 UTC No. 16245763
>>16245753
>>16245754
>>16245761
>>16245758
>>16245759
Funny thing is the whole issue with solar flares taking out our electronics is that so much of our infrastructure is built on dated non-grounded plastic enclosures. A modern PC in a metal case (not one with a big glass window btw) that's actually grounded i.e: UK plug or UPS would probably be fine
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:25:40 UTC No. 16245765
>>16245763
I understand the metal case part but why is grounding important?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:26:30 UTC No. 16245766
>>16245763
Now replace all the transformers who blew up that deliver power to that pc that is just fine.
The ukraine war, where the russians have been targeting the power net has show how vital transformers are and how little we actually have in reserve world wide.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:27:05 UTC No. 16245768
>>16245764
/sfg/ mocked me for the crappy paint job on my vulcan centaur model the last time I posted it
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:27:58 UTC No. 16245769
>>16245766
>how little we actually have in reserve world wide.
We need the copper to build EVs please understand
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:28:52 UTC No. 16245771
>>16245765
Infrastructure isn't protected, transformer damage would likely cause short circuits so you'll need good grounding.
>>16245764
Does the Lego LEM count?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:29:25 UTC No. 16245772
>>16245761
In a worst case scenario the entire world would be poisoned by nuclear plants melting down and chemical plants fires spreading forever chemicals all over the world.
The survival of humans in world would be very hard on the fact that everything they will eat will poison them.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:35:03 UTC No. 16245776
>>16245764
I put together these steel models from time to time. But I'm really picky with the ones I buy.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:40:25 UTC No. 16245783
>>16245772
I don't think that's true at all, anon. We've seen plants melt down, we've seen chemical plants burn, these things have already happened before and the world kept turning. There would probably be some nasty no-go zones for a while but the whole world wouldn't be one, that's a gross exaggeration on par with thinking a nuclear plant makes a mushroom cloud when it fails.
>>16245764
Before my shitty printer died I printed a tiny Starship and Superheavy, about 4 inches or so when stacked. I cut a little bit of paperclip to make a post then melted it into the top of Superheavy, now it connects to a corresponding hole in the bottom of Starship so the stack holds together. It doesn't look great but it's fun to swoosh around.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:42:51 UTC No. 16245785
>>16245783
>it's fun to swoosh around
you make noises when you do that, don't you
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 15:45:45 UTC No. 16245788
>>16245783
>I don't think that's true at all, anon. We've seen plants melt down, we've seen chemical plants burn, these things have already happened before and the world kept turning. There would probably be some nasty no-go zones for a while but the whole world wouldn't be one, that's a gross exaggeration on par with thinking a nuclear plant makes a mushroom cloud when it fails.
Your talking about scenarios where the entire nation and the world came together to stop the plants from melting down in to the ground water, and decade long clean up work.
Same with chemical plants, these chemical plants burning down were always stopped by firefighters and afterwards a massive clean up is needed.
But how do you stop a industry fire when the waterpumps dont work, how do you do a massive cleanup effort when you cant even put food on the table becasue the entire food economy has collapsed?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:00:29 UTC No. 16245804
>>16245785
It's weird if you don't
>>16245788
I think your sense of scale is wildly off, anon. I doubt the Amish would even notice a complete collapse of "society" right away. I don't live anywhere near chemical plants or nuclear facilities, there's just nothing close enough to me to worry about that way, maybe you live closer to such places and have good reason to worry.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:05:10 UTC No. 16245808
>>16245804
Reminder that last year one derailed trail in rural american destroyed a shitload of flora&fauna, and they had to do a massive cleanup.
Now have the same but all over the world, and you cant clean it up.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:10:03 UTC No. 16245810
>>16245808
That's one town anon. In Pennsylvania there are about 950 places big enough to be called a "town". There are 49 states in addition to Pennsylvania. Anon, the Earth is a very large place! We couldn't fuck it up that bad on purpose if we tried, let alone by accident/neglect.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:11:31 UTC No. 16245811
>>16245800
I would love to see starship on mars in 2029 but this will probably just be another timeline for thunderf00t to be smug about.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:12:20 UTC No. 16245812
>>16245810
>We couldn't fuck it up that bad on purpose if we tried, let alone by accident/neglect.
>he posted with microplastics in his balls.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:15:59 UTC No. 16245816
>>16245812
hysteria about microplastics is a white woman phenomenon
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:21:52 UTC No. 16245824
>>16245537
shuttle was unironically ahead of it's time, which was its problem.
That's the entire reason they had all the retarded parts.
The SRBs for example, because if the booster turned off at any point it would be fatal and when Shuttle was developed there were no liquid fuel engines in the world which were reliable enough.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:24:47 UTC No. 16245828
>>16245816
This, anon is an hysterical female and is therefore ignored.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:25:39 UTC No. 16245830
>[!] BREAKING: FLORIDA MAN SUES NASA [!]
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:27:26 UTC No. 16245832
>>16245598
airlack
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:28:02 UTC No. 16245833
>>16245824
>The SRBs for example, because if the booster turned off at any point
lol that is not why they made the boosters srbs. That was so icbm manufacturers had a reason outside the military to keep making solid rockets.
You fell for NASAs bullshit, they have a habit of making nonsense technical arguments for things they do for political reasons. Perfect modern example is orion. The reason why orion is so heavy and underpowered is so nothing besides SLS can lift it. But if you read NASAs technical arguments for why it is this way you'll see them claim the small rocket boosters on atlas are an unacceptable risk but the large solid rocket boosters on SLS are perfectly fine.
They say whatever gets NASA the most funding.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:28:20 UTC No. 16245834
>>16245824
NASA was forced to use SRB's to keep the pork barrel going and to subsides American ICMB maintenance. Having the SRB's being shipped via barge in part was the reason for there being O-rings in the first place
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:28:27 UTC No. 16245835
>>16245450
Is this yuri?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:29:22 UTC No. 16245836
>>16245824
Shuttle used SRB for the same reason SLS does, lobbying and military industrial base subsidies.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:34:42 UTC No. 16245846
>>16245453
>Proofs?
It was revealed to me (and the anon who posted >>16245449, I assume) in a Hacker News post. (The Red Dragon part, at least.)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?i
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:40:33 UTC No. 16245859
>>16245833
NASA being honest about that stuff would be briefly hilarious until all their ongoing projects got canceled.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:42:27 UTC No. 16245863
>>16245859
Honestly I don't think it would amount to much. Actually doing something useful is not the point of NASA.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:45:51 UTC No. 16245868
Why does NASA have to be the ones to keep icbm manufacturers in business? now that we have the space force they can be the ones requesting icbms strapped to the sides of rockets and we don't have to do this little song and dance to pretend we actually care about solid rockets for space launch
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:48:51 UTC No. 16245874
>>16245731
look around, we're already in a tech apocalypse. 500,000 tech jobs were lost in the last 18 months in the US alone.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:50:42 UTC No. 16245877
>>16245800
this is why elon said the other day that they want to land on mars asap. because they can make money from it.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:52:36 UTC No. 16245879
>>16245874
They will be fine, they can always flip burgers and suck dick.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:52:37 UTC No. 16245880
>>16245874
AI obsoleting so much of the financial and tech jobs will be such a relief.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:53:29 UTC No. 16245883
>>16245868
>Why does NASA have to be the ones to keep icbm manufacturers in business?
During the shuttle era NASA was the only org to do anything with rockets.
Nowadays theres absolutely no reason to do launch vehicles with SRBs.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:54:10 UTC No. 16245886
>>16245800
Seems pretty fine. The current pace of Starship seems like it would be on track to deliver Artemis so Mars a few years later isnt crazy.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:55:20 UTC No. 16245891
>>16245880
What's the point of a population of 8 billions when the majority of labor gets automated?
We are in danger.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 16:56:46 UTC No. 16245892
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:00:21 UTC No. 16245896
>>16245891
To consume and produce exceptional individuals. The point isn't that every person contributes equally, it's that with more people there's a larger chance of great people being born.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:01:01 UTC No. 16245898
>>16245004
>GAG A NYANN
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:01:38 UTC No. 16245900
>>16245891
>Anon still believes most "people" have some kind of inherent value
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:03:09 UTC No. 16245903
>>16245898
Back to >>>/a/ >>>/lgbt/ >>>/v/
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:04:30 UTC No. 16245904
>>16245834
“NASA was forced to do this”
“Ummm yeah well NASA had no choice… they HAD to do that”
At some point it stops being a game of ‘congress said’ and starts being the reality of ‘NASA is just as political and stupid with decisions as congress is with the purse’
NASA put man on the Moon and launched Skylab—but after that it’s been go fever, academic politics, and bad choices even when there were options. I’m not apologizing for the same brain rot that got us oldspace complacency
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:06:09 UTC No. 16245905
>>16245904
Learn to greentext your quotes newfag
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:15:07 UTC No. 16245913
>>16245898
that's a man
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:15:32 UTC No. 16245915
>>16245004
every space program, literally every single one: spaceships are white
india: MAKE IT POOP COLORED SAAR
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:18:24 UTC No. 16245922
>>16245915
SLS retard back to >>>/pol/
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:20:59 UTC No. 16245925
Estrogenated Astronaut dropped the tour video btw. Still not paying tho
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:23:22 UTC No. 16245928
>>16245922
sls is a rocket
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:24:23 UTC No. 16245931
>>16245904
>NASA is just as political
The top positions are political appointments of management is political, but I'm not going to pretend that the average engineer working there has any real say on the overall directions of their programmes.
Nixon had won the space race and wanted to introduce budget cuts but couldn't be seen to abandon space altogether so decided on building LEO infrastructure, the very idea of a fully reusable shuttle and booster were abandoned because of a lack of future funding and political willpower to see such a programme to fruition.
The OMB forced NASA to chose SRB's over liquid boosters even though liquid offered a lower cost/flight, in the conclusions of the final report of the programme definition NASA even acknowledges that environmental conditions would affect launches.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:27:18 UTC No. 16245934
>>16245915
I take it you've never actually seen any spacecraft. or even photos of them
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:27:45 UTC No. 16245936
>>16245931
Morton-Thiokol needed jobs too.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:31:49 UTC No. 16245939
>>16245898
too based for this general
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:32:55 UTC No. 16245941
>>16245915
Is that a non-white spacecraft?????????!
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:33:47 UTC No. 16245942
>>16245936
Those fuckers too, begging for money from USAF after they got their own projects cancelled and then being forced by the DoD and NRO to hand over primacy on the design process is further proof that NASA wasn't completely in charge of the programme.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:34:26 UTC No. 16245943
>>16245915
SAVE ME NIGGERMAN I"M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNEEE!
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:36:53 UTC No. 16245946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPh
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:37:19 UTC No. 16245948
>>16245942
I'm just glad NASA has shifted to buying "launch services" and taking Congress's hands out of the design process.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:39:38 UTC No. 16245957
>>16245194
How come no sample return rendezvous with the ISS and uses a regular return flight to re-enter. Seems like is could save a lot of complexity.
Could use the nanoracks airlock.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:42:41 UTC No. 16245960
>>16245958
>SUSIE
>just a mini starship
Zubrin wins again
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:46:27 UTC No. 16245968
>>16245764
I think it would be fun to build a working model (I don't have the tools or ability) or code a simulation.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:46:44 UTC No. 16245969
>>16245960
It seems to be just a starship rip off yeah.
Why do oldspace always try to do orbital reuse first? Thats the way harder step.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:47:53 UTC No. 16245971
>>16245768
>my vulcan centaur model
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:53:18 UTC No. 16245981
>>16245957
Mostly because it means you can't do a direct aerobrake entry and requires more propellant for docking maneuvers.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:54:05 UTC No. 16245985
>>16245972
Nigger
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:55:18 UTC No. 16245988
>>16245946
>That ILRS concept render
Absolutely grim, it's an antenna and a few solar panels that are visited by Apollo-era landers
>>16245985
Seethe more
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:56:14 UTC No. 16245991
>>16245969
Oldspace is stuck in expendable booster hell without a Starlink scale project to self fund iterative booster development. Starship is going to destroy most of what's left besides deliberate subsidy of Starship competitors by governments.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:59:33 UTC No. 16245997
>>16245991
>Starship is going to destroy most of what's left besides deliberate subsidy of Starship competitors by governments.
I don't think the government will subsidize expendable launchers. There are other companies like BO and RL planning rockets geared towards constellations, more likely I think is that the likes of boeing and lockheed martin will just cede the launch market to newspace.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:00:32 UTC No. 16245998
>>16245988
Niggers
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:22:52 UTC No. 16246027
>>16245998
Where??
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:26:33 UTC No. 16246029
>>16245997
>boeing and lockheed martin will just cede the launch market to newspace
If you'd asked me a decade ago I'd've said they would sooner assassinate Elon Musk. Boeing has been pretty clear on the latest earnings calls though, they just want out.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:29:17 UTC No. 16246031
>>16245972
Cute!
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:30:22 UTC No. 16246032
>>16246029
Boeing and Lockheed need to go back to making more airplanes, especially Lockheed getting back into the civilian airline game with their Hercules and some new jetliners. The recent Boeing quality control issues show the danger of a domestic monopoly.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:32:36 UTC No. 16246037
>>16245998
I don't like those guys
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:41:53 UTC No. 16246052
>>16245304
>dumb browns call anyone who supports any use of the US military a neocon
I see you
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:42:21 UTC No. 16246053
>>16246027
On the moon
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:51:19 UTC No. 16246061
>>16245958
Not likely. The payload capacity of reusable upper stages on medium or even heavy lift launch vehicles is too poor to justify the expenditures in the booster.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:05:28 UTC No. 16246079
>>16245738
*39
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:06:38 UTC No. 16246081
>>16245677
qrd NOW!
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:08:00 UTC No. 16246083
>>16245692
nigger
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:08:59 UTC No. 16246084
>>16245677
Too bad no one on sfg is stupid enough to pay for that ahit now
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:09:09 UTC No. 16246085
>>16246081
2nding
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:10:20 UTC No. 16246087
>>16246081
You had to be there
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:11:06 UTC No. 16246088
>>16245898
isnt this the vtuber that did the pomf pomf song before they were a vtuber?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:14:15 UTC No. 16246091
>>16246085
>>16246087
i found this in the archive
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:16:47 UTC No. 16246096
>>16245768
I recommend going to ask /tg/ how to paint things
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:17:48 UTC No. 16246100
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:23:46 UTC No. 16246103
>>16244912
should've been "leak helium in ten manifolds"
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:25:04 UTC No. 16246104
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:26:10 UTC No. 16246106
>>16245785
bizarre mechanical venus rover instead of simply using a stirling heat pump to cool off the electronics to normal temperatures
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:27:11 UTC No. 16246107
>>16245800
remember when it was supposed to land on mars in 2020
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:29:00 UTC No. 16246110
>>16246084
in a way it's a sign of how sophisticated the average /sfg/er is.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:29:03 UTC No. 16246111
>>16246104
"in" instead of "on" always seemed strange to me about this image.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:29:40 UTC No. 16246113
>>16246107
Could have happened Red Dragon in an alternative time where Musk gave up on space colonization dream.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:30:00 UTC No. 16246114
>>16246111
coon spasms are not known as bastions of intellectual thought, anon
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:30:15 UTC No. 16246115
>>16246091
>it's already been 2 years since that
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:33:12 UTC No. 16246118
>>16246111
It's very old so the zeitgeist hadn't yet absorbed the moon as a place to stand on rather than an abstract celestial body. Same as the HG Wells book "The First Men In The Moon"
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:33:30 UTC No. 16246119
>>16245031
Those hands have never seen a single day of labor.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:35:24 UTC No. 16246122
>>16245958
This image reminded me of something I was confused about, why is Starliner allowed to land on land but Crew Dragon isn't?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:35:53 UTC No. 16246124
>>16246118
That's a crazy thing to think about.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:38:57 UTC No. 16246128
>>16246122
It's not about "allowed." It's just designed to do that, in the same way that Soyuz isn't designed to do very well if it lands in the water.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:48:58 UTC No. 16246147
>>16245972
>>16246031
Indeed
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:53:34 UTC No. 16246153
>>16245483
>BTTF Kino
>Consumer slop
You must be 30 to post here
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:57:53 UTC No. 16246156
>>16246141
yeah, martian dwellings are going to be made mostly out of pine 2x6's, sheetrock, and plywood. with aluminum siding and fiberglass insulation.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:57:58 UTC No. 16246157
>>16245503
regenerated with the urine produced by the crew?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:01:54 UTC No. 16246159
>>16246141
3D printed house has issues with regulations on Earth. We can't just rend a 3D printer for house and print one on a land you own. You need to go through all sorts of bureaucracies. And there's no such thing as a place without bureaucracies on land as every piece of land on Earth is under some sort of legal jurisdictions. Even if you travel to the middle of nowhere to build a 3D printed house on a land you buy, you need permits and such
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:03:56 UTC No. 16246161
>>16246156
Lots and lots of scrap
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:09:27 UTC No. 16246168
>>16244897
Media is starting to dogpile them too
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:13:06 UTC No. 16246170
>>16246161
looks like a slum
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:17:27 UTC No. 16246174
>>16246159
surely you dont need permits to throw up a shack in the sahara
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:17:32 UTC No. 16246176
anyone got the everyday astronaut upload yet
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:17:55 UTC No. 16246177
>>16246170
Wouldnt you know you fucking pigger scum
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:18:08 UTC No. 16246178
>>16246170
It's one of "those" neighborhoods.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:18:46 UTC No. 16246181
>>16246177
fuck off ztard. your hero putin will ack before you win.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:23:43 UTC No. 16246186
>>16246181
You seem mad.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:24:57 UTC No. 16246188
https://x.com/SheriffGarza/status/1
Coming Tuesday, static fire test?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:26:25 UTC No. 16246190
>>16246177
>be zigger
>traumatized by the pigger
>have to mention them every single hour of the day out of the blue to complete strangers
mindbroken
anyway, when the fuck is someone gonna early leak that goddamn estronaut tour.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:31:46 UTC No. 16246196
https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1
Starlink/SpaceX + Comcast collaboration to expand services
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:54:22 UTC No. 16246212
It's hot. Real hot.
Across the country, Americans are experiencing record-breaking heat.
NASA is here to help. The data we collect—through our fleet of satellites—helps the world track and navigate extreme weather in real-time
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:55:22 UTC No. 16246213
>>16246190
unbelievably based pic
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:00:31 UTC No. 16246225
>>16246141
It'll include 3d printing but it won't be shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIr
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:02:59 UTC No. 16246229
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:03:33 UTC No. 16246231
>>16246141
Looks like the proontingfag is back.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:06:10 UTC No. 16246238
I can't decide if I want to live inside a proonted habitat, bored tunnel habitat, inflatable habitat, or metal cylinder habitat.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:09:32 UTC No. 16246242
>>16246238
reminder that thomas edison had mastered poured habitats in the 1910s and they were more luxurious than marshabs will EVER be
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:12:40 UTC No. 16246244
>>16245771
>Does the Lego LEM count?
Yes
>>16245783
Estes sells a Falcon 9 rocket but so far no Starship. They're probably waiting for it to get out of the development stage.
>>16245776
Think I had that type of model in my stocking one year but it was a bus or something so it got lost in the bottom of my closet. The ones you have look nice.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:14:37 UTC No. 16246246
>>16246196
Very cool
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:16:21 UTC No. 16246247
>>16245783
based autistic toy woosher
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:17:43 UTC No. 16246248
>>16246159
Going to throw the "actually" card and say there are a couple of small areas that are unclaimed by anyone because doing so would invalidate other larger claims. Then there's Marie Byrd Land, which is as annoying to build in as it would be on Mars but in different ways.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:18:47 UTC No. 16246249
Why China is winning the EV war (It's the battery)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkx
Didn't watch but the title is interesting
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:22:03 UTC No. 16246251
>>16246249
i am so trolled right now. congrats anon. you got me.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:22:12 UTC No. 16246252
>>16246249
Did you get lost on the way to /evg/?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:23:25 UTC No. 16246255
back you go >>>/g/
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:23:42 UTC No. 16246256
>>16246247
Iowa needs to put her tits away so we can focus on the rogget
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:24:37 UTC No. 16246259
>>16246196
Why would they let Comcast resell their service? There must be some significant upcharge Comcast is planning to add for providing nothing extra to the value proposition.
Orrrrr looking at the news, this is making the rounds. Guess Comcast is desperate to roll out something, anything, and Starlink is more than happy to finally get the money they were originally going to make from the program anyway
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:25:13 UTC No. 16246261
>>16246251
why are you trolled
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:26:49 UTC No. 16246262
>>16246196
>>16246246
I understand jeff has his own rocket business but it’s a shame Amazon couldn’t close a deal with Starlink. The two of them combined could have turned space into a trillion dollar economic sphere. They could have built their own internet from scratch if they wanted
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:27:47 UTC No. 16246264
>>16246262
They are building an internet from scratch
Guess who can't tap space and is starting to get a little concerned about that fact
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:31:49 UTC No. 16246270
>>16246249
Incomplete and disingenuous.
They only mentioned China from China's POV, but nothing about rest of the world. One particular take is this.
>China forced Tesla to use Chinese battery
Tesla buys huge amounts of batteries from China because its just cheaper. Tesla wanted Panasonic to make more, but they aren't expanding or expanding slowly. Tesla made their own. Tesla has the largest battery infrastructure in the US, none of these are mentioned. I get that Bloomberg is owned by a Biden voting Billionaire and the reporters lean towards that, but if you're excluding 90% of the world and only focusing on China's story, its an incomplete story at best.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:33:19 UTC No. 16246271
>>16246256
she'd have to go on a diet first.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:34:43 UTC No. 16246274
>>16246271
That won't be happening
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:36:15 UTC No. 16246275
>>16246274
yeah okay bro
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:38:07 UTC No. 16246277
>>16246275
>>16246271
Niggers
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:41:23 UTC No. 16246280
>>16246249
opening line:
>In 2024 Ford Motors Quebec production on their F-150 Lightning
???
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:42:37 UTC No. 16246281
>>16246277
Where??
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:43:52 UTC No. 16246283
>>16246277
you.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:45:51 UTC No. 16246284
>>16246259
Two reasons I can think of: first is redundancy. If Comcast goes down, which it does, your business connection is automatically switched over the Starlink. The other is for large Comcast customers who have locations that aren't serviced with regular Comcast infrastructure. Maybe you have five hundred stores and 430 of them are in Comcast service areas and the other 70 aren't. This lets you deal with just one provider for all your internet connectivity needs.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:51:04 UTC No. 16246296
I'm just skeptical that you would want such a vital piece to be dependent on a completely novel technology. How would those big printers even work? All the demos I've seen use concrete, which is made from fossils, which only exist locally. Also your printer would need to be moved to Mars, and your buildings would be limited by the printer size. That's a big problem when 90% of your square footage is necessarily open floor factory. This is a huge problem for there to be no immediately obvious right answer.
>>16246225
>>16246229
Those robots are science fiction right now and there's nothing more to say about that.
>>16246242
This is what I'm thinking, if you have a pourable construction material then panelized construction would be way easier. Hell if Starship works then CMU construction might make the most sense.
>>16246231
You have schizophrenia
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:58:08 UTC No. 16246300
>>16246296
>You have schizophrenia
Whatever you say, proonter.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 21:59:27 UTC No. 16246304
>>16246285
no matter how much you force this gay rocket as a meme nobody cares.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:00:07 UTC No. 16246307
>>16246304
it's a beautiful shot, anon
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:02:33 UTC No. 16246310
>>16245582
That's so hot
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:03:12 UTC No. 16246312
>>16246262
if Jeff had been an ally to Elon instead of a shit-talking, lawsuit bringing, contract stealing little bitch we could have had SpaceX squared and probably had a Stanford torus being built by reusable Starships by now
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:11:19 UTC No. 16246322
>>16246312
This, Bezos is a fucking idiot. Why does he care about the rocket part so much? They aren't even mentioned in BO's mission statement. There are enough problems to be solved and I imagine enough of an interested market to justify research into habitats starting immediately. He could be half the Starship customer base without noticing a change in his bank account.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:11:21 UTC No. 16246323
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:18:20 UTC No. 16246330
>>16246118
>Same as the HG Wells book "The First Men In The Moon"
Its called that because the ayy bugs the Earthmen encounter live underground you ignoramus
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:21:57 UTC No. 16246332
>>16246170
rustsuckers are animals living in filth
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:22:18 UTC No. 16246333
>>16246322
>>16246312
entrepreneurship is just the ancient drive for personal glory and fame slightly sublimated. you don't put your name in the history books by teaming up with the competiton. it's easy to decry the irrationality of it, but founding space startups at all is irrational by most people's reckoning.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:23:46 UTC No. 16246336
>>16246322
if he had put as much time money and effort into developing a LEO station (luxury hotel? first vacation home owned by a billionaire? how about both- a timeshare) as he has his little penis rocket carnival ride and all his other long-over-budget and long-overdue rockets the thing could have been lofted by a half dozen Falcon9s or a few Falcon Heavy by now and he could be sitting pretty and be seen as the tip of the spear "space guy" and not just nipping at other's heels
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:25:02 UTC No. 16246339
>>16246333
What the hell are you talking about? A guy who bought land in 1750 to grow cabbages is an entrepreneur. You're talking about ego impeding the free market
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:27:35 UTC No. 16246344
>>16246333
>it's easy to decry the irrationality of it
it's even easier to decry his impeding progress by others and him squandering money and talent, he's actually harmed humanity with his petty and misguided "efforts" so far
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:28:39 UTC No. 16246346
>>16246212
How does that help me? I'm still hot.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:31:41 UTC No. 16246349
>>16246346
Stop asking questions
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:34:18 UTC No. 16246351
>>16246336
Doesn't he pull out ten billion a year? He could launch like 10 ISSs of mass on the falcon 9 every year
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:35:33 UTC No. 16246355
>>16246337
A billion dollars don't buy you game.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:36:14 UTC No. 16246356
>>16246351
not his problem. find your own customer, elon.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:38:14 UTC No. 16246357
why should we even bother colonizing mars before we have a self-sustaining moon base capable of assembling and launching rockets?
not having to launch from the surface of the earth would be way more fuel efficient and also would allow for you to build rockets that don't need to care about aerodynamics (so you could have one with a large habitation ring without worrying about aerodynamic drag ripping it off on ascent)
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:38:14 UTC No. 16246358
>>16246296
The little ones sure, but work is already underway for autonomous robots to do the same thing
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:39:25 UTC No. 16246360
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:40:18 UTC No. 16246361
>>16246346
GO
INTO
THE WATER
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:41:18 UTC No. 16246364
>>16246356
currently his problem is that he doesn't have anything in orbit despite prices going way down. his ego is the reason he doesn't have a space hotel, that's it
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:42:42 UTC No. 16246365
>>16246361
gee, thanks nasa
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:44:37 UTC No. 16246368
>>16246339
the free market's success owes entirely to its ability to innovate, and you have no innovation without the possibility of building your own little business empire to control monopoly rents for a time. that's schumpeter in a nutshell. all the stuff about efficient allocation of goods in equilibrium is just window dressing.
>>16246344
one could similarly look at late republican rome and decry all the infighting and intrigue as a squandering of talent, but a more astute historian could look at it and see that it was the heightened sense of conflict that produced great men and forced outward expansion. there is no caesar without a crassus and there is no musk without a bezos.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:45:05 UTC No. 16246369
>>16246312
no we wouldn't. We need competition. ULA was a manufactured monopoly and look what's happened
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:47:04 UTC No. 16246371
https://spacenews.com/house-intelli
Russia has nuclear anti-sat weapon that can put out EMP in LEO and destroy good chunk of satellites. Possibly creating kessler syndrome.
Biden officials wont divulge information. For the fear that it would undermine US support for the war in Ukraine.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:47:13 UTC No. 16246372
>>16246363
define prooonterfag for me
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:48:28 UTC No. 16246373
>>16246371
>Russia has nuclear anti-sat weapon that can put out EMP in LEO
the US has had that for like 60 years. look up starfish prime.
Now fuck off ESL zigger
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:50:10 UTC No. 16246376
>>16246372
You had to be there.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:50:35 UTC No. 16246378
>>16246371
biden won't divulge the information because we have nothing beyond circumstantial evidence and speculation. if you're going to be making accusations on an international stage you need to have something more than "it's in a funny orbit".
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:51:25 UTC No. 16246379
>>16246351
yes, I was going minimal but you are correct if he hadn't dumped it all into developing all of these pie-in-the-sky rockets he could have assembled a really impressive structure in LEO, a few dozen Falcon 9 launches over the last half a decade could have built him quite the floating castle by now and kept it inhabited with him and his people (you know, sycophants and hispanic MILFs)
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:53:33 UTC No. 16246380
>>16246371
Russia also claimed they have hypersonic rockets, but then the the ukkies shot one out of the sky with a patriot rocket.
Russia also claims they have a wunderwaffe that can destroy all of the united kingdom in a tsunami.
Meanwhile russia is fighting ukraine with 40 year old tanks with optics of the last century.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:54:44 UTC No. 16246381
>>16246379
Living in space would suck ass without artificial gravity.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:55:48 UTC No. 16246385
>>16246371
>put out EMP in LEO and destroy good chunk of satellites
That's not how it works
>Possibly creating kessler syndrome.
That's not how that works either
>Biden officials wont divulge information
For the same reasons that they won't divulge any info about HAARP being a secret weather control weapon
>it would undermine US support for the war in Ukraine
How is it supposed to do that?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:56:06 UTC No. 16246387
>>16246371
>Biden officials wont divulge information
because it doesn't exist
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:56:26 UTC No. 16246388
>>16246381
And it would be pretty much impossible because of fluids building up long term in places in the body in low G that they dont really have a solution for now.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:57:09 UTC No. 16246390
>>16246371
This triggered the bots lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:58:07 UTC No. 16246392
>>16246386
>tankie comes in spreading propaganda.
>people call him out on it
>retards go "fucking /k/ shitting up the board again!!!"
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 22:59:08 UTC No. 16246394
>>16246392
Fuck off /k/ike
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:00:04 UTC No. 16246395
How did Biden trannies become the dominant voice on /k/? What the fuck happened to that board?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:00:25 UTC No. 16246396
>>16246392
He’s right y’know kek
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:00:29 UTC No. 16246397
>>16246392
the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee is a tankie, confirmed
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:01:12 UTC No. 16246399
>>16246395
It's all glowniggers and easily duped morons
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:03:07 UTC No. 16246403
>>16246369
old-space and their old-space ways could have been killed off by an alliance of Bezos and Musk, as is, if old-space or their even just their infuriating practices are alive and well 10 years from now it will be thanks to Bezos I'm sure
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:06:05 UTC No. 16246405
>>16246373
retard, we have a hundred times more to lose up there than they do so what does it matter that we could do it too, why would we, you dumb kikel?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:07:12 UTC No. 16246406
>>16246402
ill suck biden's cock if I see the NERVA in my lifetime
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:09:05 UTC No. 16246407
>>16246406
>we're excited to announce a partnership with the future of American space flight: ULA and Blue Origin
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:09:16 UTC No. 16246408
>>16246381
52 one week visits per year by paying customers wouldn't "suck", tard, think of how he tries to entice suckers into paying for his little rocket hop and how he could charge a hundred times more for one of these adventures, now do you get it?
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:12:17 UTC No. 16246410
>>16246407
guess I'll shoot myself
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:14:05 UTC No. 16246413
>>16246406
I see what you're doing. You are much younger than Biden. You are trying to get out of the deal hoping he will die soon? Even if NERVA complete by 2050 Biden will be dead, so you are trying to get out of paying the deal anyway
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:14:58 UTC No. 16246414
>>16246371
>le kessler syndrome
>in LEO
go back to r*ddit
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:15:35 UTC No. 16246415
>>16246413
you can still suck a corpse's cock
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:16:06 UTC No. 16246416
>>16246410
Oh my sweet summer child.
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/upl
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:16:19 UTC No. 16246417
>>16246357
IIRC (and someone will correct me if I'm wrong), Mars is only twice the delta-v as the Moon. Simply going to Mars and back is much easier than setting up an industrial manufacturing system on the Moon.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:16:26 UTC No. 16246418
>>16246413
ill scheme however hard it takes to get advanced propulsion systems
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:20:45 UTC No. 16246422
>>16246414
Thank you for covering me there anon.
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:25:03 UTC No. 16246426
>>16246141
It'll require heavy machinery but Martian cities will be in pressurized glass-topped artificial canyons
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:29:47 UTC No. 16246436
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:36:41 UTC No. 16246444
>>16246402
>former
reeeeee stop closing plants you fags
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:48:03 UTC No. 16246454
>>16246416
whywould you call yourself ultra safe nuclear corporation? retarded name. blue origin is a flop name too. One thing musk is great at is coming up with a banger name
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:00:17 UTC No. 16246470
>>16246371
>For the fear that it would undermine US support for the war in Ukraine
>Oy vey, this is serious, much much more serious than our southern border being wide open or the dollar's precipitous decline in value!
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:02:09 UTC No. 16246472
>>16245625
insurance should cover it no? this is specifically NOT an act of god
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:04:16 UTC No. 16246476
>>16246426
Aren't the rocks themselves poisonous? I don't think this works either. Is beautiful though
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:04:31 UTC No. 16246477
>>16246312
>>16246322
Bezos should have unironically leveraged his Amazon expertise and essentially built a new generation aerospace supply chain to feed the new space beast that is growing. Instead, he made a vanity project and will forever be remembered as a salty bitch within the aerospace world.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:07:27 UTC No. 16246480
>>16246371
The thing with EMPs is that they're not directional. They can't be focused. They're an expanding bubble once triggered. They may take out a huge portion of satellite infrastructure in orbit, but at the consequence of taking out a lot of your own infrastructure and spy hardware and your allied hardware TOO. Something something bold move cotton,
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:08:02 UTC No. 16246482
https://x.com/RyanHansenSpace/statu
Catch test render
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:08:48 UTC No. 16246485
>>16246444
>On Dec 4 1995, the NRC received anon. allegations re the Maine Yankee Atomic Power Station.
>That the licensee for MY, knowingly performed inadequate analyses of the emergency core cooling system and the containment to support applications for increases in the licensed maximum reactor power level.
>bunch of other stuff such as on-site engineers not giving true statements on steam dump valves
>Company running the plant shuts it down instead of regulator
Seems like a classic case of some higher-ups kept asking for higher MWt limits to just make easy money while ignoring proper upkeep
>https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:10:06 UTC No. 16246488
>>16246436
can you find some new pics to post? you've posted these already
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:12:02 UTC No. 16246490
>>16246480
Russia doesnt have many. US has a lot. Specifically Starlink and many other small sats that do recons. Further they know where their sats are and they know where US sats are. There region where Russian assets is none-minimal in LEO and US LEO sats are maximized is quite a lot. So plenty of opportunity.
When Musk taunted "we can put up sats cheaper than you can launch rockets to take down sats", they propped this solution instead.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:13:16 UTC No. 16246492
>>16246141
It'll be habs and cabs for first generation. Followed by heavily copying architecture out of South America like Brazil and Argentina, where they build INTO the mountain faces rather than create a depression in or remove the mountains entirely like burgers, in order to create city. Which allows you to have an external face and a cavernous internal structure supported by the mountain. In the case of Mars, it'll be particularly important as you'd want all your flora/fauna as much as possible heavily shielded by rock and dirt to the effects of solar radiation and statically saturated Martian regolith. Generation 2.5 will also evolve to include: >>16246436. Gen 3 will expand this further to have domed cities with transparent alloys in combination of mountain and cavernous cities/facilities. The biggest limiting factor to the pace of development will be rate of water extraction from martian soil and location of underground brine aquifers which will be distilled and purified for use by humans, flora/fauna and manufacturing/mining/production facilities.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:15:02 UTC No. 16246498
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:16:14 UTC No. 16246503
>>16246498
Is this the most insane idea in rocketry that actually made it past sketches?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:16:58 UTC No. 16246504
>>16246490
>Russia doesnt have many. US has a lot. Specifically Starlink and many other small sats that do recons. Further they know where their sats are and they know where US sats are.
Entirely irrelevant. For an EMP to be significantly effective to be able to impact a statistically significant portion of US assets and the starlink network means that it will have to be very strong, and if its very strong, no Russian or Chinese or any other its allies who have hardware in orbit will be safe. Also, if and when they decide to use this, they will have to pull their cosmonauts from the ISS first or they'll doom them to asphyxiation a 100km above the surface as every means of coming home becomes a floating coffin. And when they do pull all their cosmonauts, that immediately violates the treaty between the US and Russia on ownership and peaceful cooperation between the two. Russia pulling the cosmonauts would be as blatant as holding up a giant fucking red flag the size of your mom that Russia's about to starts some major shit.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:17:24 UTC No. 16246506
>>16246492
>le radiation meme
I think I remember hearing it isn't actually that bad.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:17:26 UTC No. 16246507
>>16246503
Propulsive landing
Bellyflop maneuver to save energy for landing burn
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:17:41 UTC No. 16246508
>>16246498
They'd better run this test using the acceleration data from Booster 11's landing burn
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:19:31 UTC No. 16246510
>>16246504
A small scale detonation that kills couple hundred Starlinks is probably worth it to Russia. You now realize the initial weapon doesn't have to kill all the sats, but rather demonstrate it on small enough scale to threaten the US. Particularly, threatening Starlink could do that.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:23:03 UTC No. 16246513
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:24:45 UTC No. 16246517
>>16246504
Pretty sure no country would let the lives of a handful of civilians in an inherently dangerous job jeopardize a massive & risky military operation. If Russia used a space EMP, those astronauts are toast.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:25:15 UTC No. 16246519
>>16246477
this, he will be forever remembered by me as the guy who hosed William Shatner down with champagne after his little ride up and back down in Jeff's embarrassingly phallic looking toy rocket, oh and I think he ate a lizard once too
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:32:24 UTC No. 16246528
>>16246506
Its about establishing long term tolerances for the flora and fauna we intend to grow and have on the surface of this planet. Humans are willing to risk and tolerate a lot of dangerous shit in the name of adaptation, including death. It's more serious if the radiation poisons your crops, which you are going to consume at scale. Most importantly though, 9/10 times, it's likely not going to be serious but in the 1/10 chance when you have a solar maximum period with X class flares spewing tons of material and charged particles out into the system and say if Mars is in its path. THAT is where this protection matters the most. Because Mars' atmosphere is a mere 1% the density of Earth's, and its magnetosphere is mostly gone at this point relative to Earth. So the amount of protection from this ionized radiation is vastly lesser than Earth.
>>16246517
The whole point of a military operation is that the enemy doesn't see you coming. If you pull ALL your cosmonauts from the ISS, that violates a treaty and basically would trigger Biden picking up the phone to Russia, dialing up Putin and asking "you really want a war asshole?" It's like wearing a t-shirt that says "imma stab you" while holding a knife in front of someone. You may succeed, but your element of surprise is lost.
>>16246510
Again, you're not paying attention. There won't be anything small scale in this demonstration. There's over 6k satellites in LEO and the EMP is a perfectly spherical expanding bubble. This means that everything in atmosphere is ALSO impacted. An EMP to take out a few hundred Starlinks means everything in a few thousand square kilometers below is also impacted. Say, there's about 100 planes flying over ocean or land here; the EMP takes all of them out, because it 100% will. They're now ballistic bombs. Everyone onboard is dead on impact. Everyone below will die. Where it lands also will see damage. EVERYONE IS NOW PISSED AT YOU. If this is over China, they want your blood. GG.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:34:20 UTC No. 16246529
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:36:43 UTC No. 16246533
>>16246528
Dumb. Space is big.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:36:42 UTC No. 16246534
https://blogs.nasa.gov/boeing-crew-
>NASA and Boeing leadership are adjusting the return to Earth of the Starliner Crew Flight Test spacecraft with agency astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams from the International Space Station. The move off Wednesday, June 26, deconflicts Starliner’s undocking and landing from a series of planned International Space Station spacewalks while allowing mission teams time to review propulsion system data.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:39:22 UTC No. 16246536
All of you popsci faggots need to shut up about EMP. You do not know what you're talking about. EMP is not the potential hazard in this scenario.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:39:48 UTC No. 16246538
>>16246498
>>16246503
>>16246508
Slowly lowering it seems counter productive. It would be more realistic to have placed about a few meters above the chopsticks and then simulate a fall onto them to really test the catch, as that's what the booster is actually going to do. It's not going to be a perfect catch the first time, given the clear lack of margins in fuel on the descent from the past flight. It's probably going to take a few tries maybe up to half a dozen or full before they figure out the fuel margins to perfectly catch it and not worry about the drop. Still, a booster catch of something this massive is bonkers. If it succeeds on the first try, it will move SpaceX which is a league of their own currently though somewhere within reach due to their propulsive landing capabilities cadence, all into an entirely new echelon of aerospace that combined planetary state actors would not be able to compete with.
Elon's risking a lot with attempting to catch the booster the first time. I think everyone else is desperately hoping it basically ballistically takes out the tower, as that will set SpaceX back nearly a year or more, and given lawyers and regulators with hostile activist interests the ability to slow down or stop SpaceX from getting ahead further. In the odd chance they actually succeed, the entire aerospace sector that is competing in the heavy and super heavy lift segment is seriously in danger. As a caught booster via tower would demonstrably lower the cost to orbit per kilogram from a few thousand per kg to a few hundred per kg. It's Wayland Yutani levels of madness.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:44:11 UTC No. 16246539
>>16246528
>It's more serious if the radiation poisons your crops, which you are going to consume at scale.
Retard
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:44:30 UTC No. 16246540
>>16246534
>moved to “some time in July”
AAAAAAAHEHEJRIWORKFIWIRJFJ THEYRE GOING TO DIEEEEEE UGH FUCK BOEING
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:45:16 UTC No. 16246541
>>16246534
>July 20th draws ever closer
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:46:04 UTC No. 16246542
>>16245004
Just kill the dalits.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:49:04 UTC No. 16246544
>>16246540
https://twitter.com/DerekdotSpace/s
>Something I have been told repeatedly by folks who work on Starliner is "If we were worried about the vehicle's safety, we would already be back on the ground." Spending more time in orbit for more data is a REALLY good thing to prepare for operational missions.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:49:47 UTC No. 16246545
>>16246402
Yeah, and it's so radioactive you can't approach within 20 miles
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:52:37 UTC No. 16246547
>>16246545
>Cars 10's of metres away
Kek, that's not how nuclear waste containment work chud
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:52:53 UTC No. 16246548
>>16246533
You'd best hope there's no planes that sphere of influence when it goes off, or your allies will become your enemies that will make sure you never see the light of day again.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:53:15 UTC No. 16246549
>>16246545
chatGPT4o, pull up a source on this 4chan DOT org post
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:55:11 UTC No. 16246550
>>16246534
Comrade Komarov sends his regards
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:56:53 UTC No. 16246552
>>16246544
>"If we were worried about the vehicle's safety,
You should always be nervous about a new vehicle. Fucking POOing
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 00:57:27 UTC No. 16246553
>>16246536
Pigger scared of Russia space capabilities?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:05:14 UTC No. 16246557
>>16246534
Nice more time for helium to leak. This thing is going to run out of prop and leave those poor bastards spinning around in a random orbit until they die.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:12:23 UTC No. 16246561
>>16246528
>The whole point of a military operation is that the enemy doesn't see you coming. If you pull ALL your cosmonauts from the ISS, that violates a treaty and basically would trigger Biden picking up the phone to Russia, dialing up Putin and asking "you really want a war asshole?" It's like wearing a t-shirt that says "imma stab you" while holding a knife in front of someone. You may succeed, but your element of surprise is lost.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:13:54 UTC No. 16246563
>>16246561
I can almost taste the vatnik tears in this post.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:15:11 UTC No. 16246564
good morning fuckers.
another day, another day closer to IFT-5.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:15:15 UTC No. 16246566
https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/s
>Starliner CFT: No new problems have surfaced since the June 26 date was announced eight days earlier, and Starliner commander Butch Wilmore and Sunita Williams are still cleared to undock and fly home at anytime if a station malfunction or other issue crops up that requires a quick exit; as such, they are not "stranded" in space
>>16246557
It's not leaking right now. It won't start leaking again until they restart the propulsion system
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:19:20 UTC No. 16246569
>>16246553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starf
>The explosion released roughly 10^29 electrons into the Earth's magnetosphere. While some of the energetic beta particles followed the Earth's magnetic field and illuminated the sky, other high-energy electrons became trapped and formed radiation belts around the Earth. The added electrons increased the intensity of electrons within the natural inner Van Allen radiation belt by several orders of magnitude. In the months that followed, these man-made radiation belts eventually caused six or more satellites to fail
It's not the EMP that's the potential danger.
Something like this is also a hollow threat. It'd kill a lot of starlink satellites, but it'd also affect a lot of China's Gaofen satellites, and Russia needs China as a potential ally more than it needs to kill of satellite communication in Ukraine.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:21:52 UTC No. 16246574
>>16246476
Not in the slightest. The perchlorate is a thin layer of dust.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:39:45 UTC No. 16246592
>>16246566
>It's not leaking right now
do you really believe it
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:52:14 UTC No. 16246605
>>16246538
too bad they don't have an expendable barge rigged up to conduct this "catch testing"
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:53:16 UTC No. 16246606
>>16246563
kek, you say the most cringy things, anon
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:54:46 UTC No. 16246608
>>16246574
Has this been 100% confirmed? What are the conditions that form it? That would seem more manageable
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:55:05 UTC No. 16246609
>>16246569
>>16246563
Redditor ukroid manlets detected
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:03:06 UTC No. 16246614
>>16246548
>You'd best hope there's no planes that sphere of influence when it goes off, or your allies will become your enemies that will make sure you never see the light of day again.
when does hyperbole cross into hysteria?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:06:56 UTC No. 16246617
is the moon big, /sfg/? i had my guy walk around on it in kerbal and it looked like the biggest thing ever, but when i look at it in the sky it's pretty small. i don't know what to believe now.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:11:06 UTC No. 16246620
>>16246617
it's this big
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:11:13 UTC No. 16246621
>>16246617
here's a fun little trick, hold out a dime at arms length. it will completely cover the moon. that's just how small the moon is. don't believe KSP, it's just a video game.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:14:59 UTC No. 16246626
>>16246620
should ceres be colonized or turned into habitats? how many km^2 of livable area could we scrape out of this thing?
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:15:47 UTC No. 16246627
>>16246626
moon has as much surface area of about 5x united states
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:18:25 UTC No. 16246628
>>16246627
sorry 4x, just checked.
still an insane amount that will never be used.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:21:03 UTC No. 16246631
>>16246626
ceres should just be scrapped yes
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:23:42 UTC No. 16246635
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:27:05 UTC No. 16246640
>>16246635
What the fuck Elon
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:28:41 UTC No. 16246641
>>16246628
~3.85x
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:41:31 UTC No. 16246648
>>16246641
Shut up tubby
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:46:33 UTC No. 16246656
>>16246626
quick math says 182 billion sqkm, or around 350 times the surface area of Earth
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:49:59 UTC No. 16246661
I've not followed the Boing! shitshow because it's Boing! and no one cares. What is the latest? Are the astronauts dead yet?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 02:57:03 UTC No. 16246670
>>16246656
That would be 200 million Island Threes. The current population would fit 40 to a habitat lol. And that's just ceres.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:00:33 UTC No. 16246678
>>16246661
I am just annoyed at the fact if they do burn up and die it's going to totally negatively affect all aspects of the space exploration landscape for years.
With Boing screwing up, you just know SpaceX will feel some of the repercussions as well even though they had nothing to do with it.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:04:48 UTC No. 16246688
>>16246678
>they haven't even managed to kill the astronauts yet
fucking amateurs
Also, right now everyone knows boing is shit, plus I expect Musk to offer a rescue missions at some point.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:17:07 UTC No. 16246711
>>16246688
it'll most likely happen, every day that passes by more hidden problems will emerge I bet. I don't think that piece of junk was designed to be up there for that long by the Boing workers.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:28:36 UTC No. 16246733
>>16246661
it's not that big of a deal and nobody's going to die.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:28:38 UTC No. 16246734
>>16246715
Dont lil bro me you subhuman Muskrat
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:32:19 UTC No. 16246741
>>16246733
>it's not that big of a deal and nobody's going to die
said the challenger engineers that purchased the cheapest orings they could find with 1 star reviews
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:38:14 UTC No. 16246753
>>16246734
what are you going to do after ift-5 succeeds, make more baseless N1 comparisons on here like you did hours after ift-4?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:39:47 UTC No. 16246756
>>16246753
jokes aside what are these guys going to do when there's video evidence of them shitting on what ultimately became the greatest species-level achievement of our time
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:40:51 UTC No. 16246760
>>16246756
fall back on muh full self driving
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:41:07 UTC No. 16246761
>>16246756
they will unironically become Artemis landing deniers to own le musk
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:44:48 UTC No. 16246768
>>16246761
this and become pro chinese lunar program at the same time
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:45:21 UTC No. 16246770
>>16246760
I miss FSD, my trial ended last week
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:46:37 UTC No. 16246771
>>16246756
>>16246760
>>16246761
Ahab's gotta hunt his whale.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:48:09 UTC No. 16246772
>>16246771
PHILIP BLOW UP THE DAMN YOUTUBE CHANNEL
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:48:39 UTC No. 16246774
>>16246756
>"It only worked because NASA engineers designed it for him and the government actually paid for all of it and Elon isn't a real engineer so he deserves no credit and don't you know that Starlink is a scam? Falcon 9 isn't really impressive because Delta Clipper did it first and SpaceX never made any money off of it."
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:50:17 UTC No. 16246777
>>16246774
starship isn't impressive because progress refueled the iss first and anyone can land on the moon, plus it was supposed to be done in 2025 and competent aerospace companies always finish everything on time
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:50:24 UTC No. 16246778
>>16246774
who are we quoting here?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:52:12 UTC No. 16246780
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 03:52:13 UTC No. 16246781
>>16246778
"them"
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:00:32 UTC No. 16246787
>>16246781
The fags? It cant be jews since you didnt echo it.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:08:09 UTC No. 16246795
>>16246777
>competent aerospace companies always finish everything on time
i dont think even musks detractors could say that with a straight face
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:10:36 UTC No. 16246797
>>16246771
Heh
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:16:21 UTC No. 16246799
>>16246795
When other aerospace companies are behind schedule it's fine because space is hard. When SpaceX is behind it's because they're incompetent scam artists who live only to steal money from the government. Please understand
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:19:24 UTC No. 16246803
>>16246756
the spacex engineers did all the work. elon's companies are set up so he can't get involved in them. if he had his way he would run it into the ground
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:26:21 UTC No. 16246814
>>16246803
SpaceX works so well because of Elon champ, if it was another company with a left wing culture there would be negative progress because of all the unqualified DEI hires shitting things up.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:26:39 UTC No. 16246815
>>16246795
I got into an argument with someone about that today. They told me with a straight face that he always lies and never delivers anything on time. His explanation was that Elon did this to build up hype so that he could get more investors. I then pointed out that everything in space is always late, and that JWST was supposed to launch in the 90's. It actually shut him up because his brain had to reckon with NASA being so hideously late. I've found that whenever someone criticizes SpaceX, all I have to do is start talking about NASA's fuck ups and watch their brain try to square it.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:28:56 UTC No. 16246817
>>16246815
You shouldve then gone further and talked about how Elon isnt SpaceX himself and that SpaceX officials usually state reasonable, on time dates whenever they do. And then gone even further and compared their schedule to NASAs or Blorigin to really nail it home how fucking miraculous SpaceX is to the rest of the spaceflight industry.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:31:29 UTC No. 16246820
>>16246815
>SpaceX critics know nothing about spaceflight besides whatever Apollo documentary they watched in school
every time
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:33:04 UTC No. 16246823
>>16246814
wrong he just has a cult of personality that draws all the good engineers to his companies and leaves none for the rest of the industry. that's why blue origin and rivian don't succeed and I want them to because despite claiming to hate billionaires I'll simp for one if it opposes husk.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:36:19 UTC No. 16246827
>>16246815
I haven’t seen this mentioned explicitly on /sfg/ but it’s my personal opinion that there are a lot of people who simply dislike tesla: electric cars, overvalued stock, annoying fan base, cars with silly problems and time schedule slips that make the news—point is, people just see this annoying reddit billionaire tesla guy. And these same people (the general public) don’t really follow space or spaceflight like at all, so they just do a 1:1 and say SpaceX also suck because of Mr. Musk.
Besides the grift I think this could explain thunderfoot. He found the hyperloop idea bogus, then criticizes tesla. Before he knows it he’s way out of his league trying to find evidence that reusing rockets must somehow be a scam of some sort. The numbers are being fudged, it’s just a redstone rocket, Musk is sucking up NASA money and he said he would land Man on Mars in 2021 or whatever aaaahhhhh
They know nothing about how bad spaceflight was during the Shuttle era. They don’t know how fucking dogshit anemic the 90s and 00s were, trying to launch mars missions on tiny ass Delta IIs. They figure Musk is some liar loser guy and SpaceX is accordingly some sort of scam
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:37:53 UTC No. 16246828
>>16246827
>they don't know
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:37:58 UTC No. 16246829
>>16246823
hello Jeff
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:40:13 UTC No. 16246834
>>16246817
I've found that it's all about balance. If you go too hard, you just become off as a simp. Therefore, just pointing out something that even a normie is aware of (Shuttle, JWST, etc) and using that as the basis for the argument without going too deep or aggressive will cause a lock up in their narrative. I'd probably never try this on someone who is a huge SLS shill (for instance) because they are locked in and can just shrug off failures, delays, bloated budgets, etc. with liberal application of hatred for Musk. It's hard to not become autistic on this topic though, I'll agree. Your gut reaction is to shove every single factoid you have in your brain down their throat, but that just causes people to spin away from the conversation. A single, salient point that can't be dismissed works far better, or so I think.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:40:53 UTC No. 16246836
>>16246823
There's actually a point here. SpaceX is the first pick for most of the top graduating aerospace talent, and Elon's said a few times that if he could get more good engineers he'd hire them on in a heartbeat. A lot of the rest of the industry doesn't get it's good talent until after they've worked a term or two with SpaceX.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:43:33 UTC No. 16246839
I hate Tesla because I don't want to drive around in a gay looking microwave
however I like SpaceX because they are our only hope for developing our presence off Earth
without SpaceX I don't even want to begin to imagine where we would be currently in /sfg/
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:44:19 UTC No. 16246840
>>16246839
another non-reusable launch to the ISS, WOOOO
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:44:48 UTC No. 16246842
>>16246834
based interaction off imageboards enjoyer
>>16246803
I do like the idea that people think you can become a hundred billionaire on accident, or even by scamming. No understanding of the real world at all
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:48:35 UTC No. 16246849
>>16246840
imagine watching only like 8-12 orange American rockets launches a year, and our astronauts still going up with Russians in 2024
it would be grim
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:49:35 UTC No. 16246851
>>16246849
and by orange I mean ULA slop and not SLS
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:51:36 UTC No. 16246854
>>16246827
Something all self-made people have in common is that they tried ten other things first. Musk is unique in that a few succeeded at once, but that doesn't mean there weren't failures. I wonder if the reddit skeptic crowd sees the failures and thinks it means something more than it does
>>16246839
I wonder where the lack of SpaceX brain drain would've put Blue Origin by now in this AU.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 04:57:48 UTC No. 16246860
>>16246854
>I wonder where the lack of SpaceX brain drain would've put Blue Origin by now in this AU.
Probably more or less the same, people love to work for SpaceX because of their optimistic company culture.
BO is as corporate and sterile as it gets. Sometimes I believe Bezos lies about being a space nerd.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:01:36 UTC No. 16246866
>>16246862
>Elon saves them
oh no what a show off he only did it to boost his own image
>Elon ignores them, lets Boing fight their own battles but they die
oh no Elon could have saved them but he didn't!!! what a selfish "billionaire"
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:03:48 UTC No. 16246872
>>16246839
>without SpaceX I don't even want to begin to imagine where we would be currently in /sfg/
It wouldn't even exist. It didn't come about until sometime after falcon heavy from memory.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:12:31 UTC No. 16246893
>>16246839
Everyday I am thankful that we have left the dark ages of 2000s era Shuttle simping
>OMG the next launch is in three months!!!11
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:21:57 UTC No. 16246906
>>16246381
are you joking?
0g is one of the main appeals of being in space.
If giant rotating drums are going to be a thing, it'll only be because they're absolutely medically necessary.
>>16246715
I honestly think he may have died from his mystery illness.
RIP CSS, one of God's accidents.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:23:22 UTC No. 16246907
>>16246893
feel bad for people that wasted their entire adult life watching shuttle launches
or the same people that had to watch the "iss" being built for reasons unknown
at least they had prime star trek/star wars they could cope with tbf
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:23:31 UTC No. 16246908
>>16246839
>Blue Origin would stay a Bezos hobby project, so no New Glenn or anything else
>NSSL Phase 2 would get split between an AR1 powered Vulcan and fucking OmegA
>COTS probably fails; Kistler dies as expected and without Dragon 1 to validate the program there's no push to get Cygnus in as a replacement.
>ATV might keep flying though, there was actually a Boeing proposal to launch it on a Delta IV Heavy. Prob. more HTV missions from Japan too.
>the lack of Antares/Cygnus won't alter Northrop's desire to eat ATK, but it could stop them pursuing larger launchers, so maybe Vulcan just ends up flying solo as "America's Rocket"
>if CCDev doesn't get canceled it'd end up divided between Starliner and Dreamchaser. With real funding DC beats Starliner but not as dramatically as Dragon did, and there no big list of Axiom/Inspiration/Polaris missions
>NASA has to buy a lot more Soyuz flights before that happens
>Rocket Lab, Astra, Relativity, Firefly, et al just don't happen without SpaceX to chase
>Virgin Orbit still might. Virgin Galactic is still around and without New Shepard they've got a clear field to claim all the suborbital glory they want. /sfg/ is very impressed by their efforts and Branson is seen as a visionary
>without their early pseudopartnership with SpaceX OneWeb dies as WorldVu. the launch market just isn't capable of supporting the needs of a very large satellite constellation
>We'd all be impressed by how much shit China is launching, but without the commercial boom in the West they never get their own push to expand into semi-independent spaceflight projects, so it's just long marches from here to the end of time
>The Long March 9 sticks with its expendable 2016 jumbo CZ-5 design.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:25:36 UTC No. 16246911
>>16246907
>at least they had prime star trek/star wars they could cope with tbf
except enterprise sucked and got cancelled and the prequels weren't any better all on the heels of columbia. it was a dire time.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:28:57 UTC No. 16246916
>>16246911
>except enterprise sucked
gb2r
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:30:11 UTC No. 16246918
>>16246907
>sf slop
It's just fantasy in space.
At least star wars cribbed from decent fantasy I guess.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:40:24 UTC No. 16246931
>>16246911
2003-2016 was truly grim dark age but I never stopped being a space flight enthusiast
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:44:59 UTC No. 16246937
Reminder that Elon is literally a redditor
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:01:42 UTC No. 16246958
>>16246937
That's ok! I forgive him :)
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:05:59 UTC No. 16246962
>>16246937
He still has his penis and he's not a marxist. I dont believe you.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:09:47 UTC No. 16246971
STUCKLINER
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:12:50 UTC No. 16246975
No, Starliner is not stuck in space. No, Butch and Suni are not stranded. We’ve got a good spacecraft and a happy and healthy crew. In fact, Suni gave our team a call this afternoon, showed us all around the space station and gave us a bit of encouragement to lift our spirits.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:16:17 UTC No. 16246977
>>16246962
I didn't know Rogozin was a redditor.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:21:41 UTC No. 16246983
>>16246975
You've seen it docked to the ISS up in space
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:27:04 UTC No. 16246989
>>16246916
The temporal cold war shit was dogshit and took up way too much space
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:30:04 UTC No. 16246994
>>16245381
it's already a meme project, it's delayed too much and costs too much when considering most of it's major components are freaking pre-existing ones already designed and built from previous programs... it's already as expensive as the Saturn V which had everything built from scratch.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 07:04:37 UTC No. 16247026
>>16246994
>it's already as expensive as the Saturn V
not even close
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:13:12 UTC No. 16247085
>>16246390
>get made fun of
>samefag “woooow you’re all so mad bro, r-reeeekt hahahaha”
Embarrassing, just take the L and fuck off back to nu/pol/ lmao.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:15:53 UTC No. 16247086
>>16246395
They didn’t, they’re actually the main voice on /pol/, as well as a variety of shitskins, that board is no longer white or hetero at all.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:20:30 UTC No. 16247095
>>16246513
>more zigger PTSD episodes.
Man, hohols fucked up your brain, dude.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:24:38 UTC No. 16247101
What do I say to a girl that obviously wants to fuck but has some weird shit holding her back from doing it
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:30:07 UTC No. 16247107
>>16247101
Ask her if she wants to watch rockets.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:32:01 UTC No. 16247108
>>16246756
they are trapped in their grift and will continue telling their audience what it wants to hear
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:42:09 UTC No. 16247123
Vulcan has teeth, did you guys know this?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:58:25 UTC No. 16247142
I want to FUCK a lesbian rocket-girl artist
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:50:43 UTC No. 16247185
>>16246756
Hyperloop.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:51:12 UTC No. 16247188
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Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:07:37 UTC No. 16247237
Are the bots broken?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:20:06 UTC No. 16247249
>>16247221
>>16247226
>>16247229
>>16247230
>>16247232
>>16247234
>>16247235
report all these bots
are jannies sleeping?
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:20:50 UTC No. 16247251
>>16247249
It's on multiple boards. Jannies are shit as usual.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:22:52 UTC No. 16247255
>>16247237
I'm not a bot but I'm also broken
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:26:05 UTC No. 16247256
>>16247249
>>16247251
And there are still anons who believe they are talking to real people here and the bot problem is made up.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:32:50 UTC No. 16247266
>>16247249
/sci/ is quite possibly the least jannied board on this god forsaken website
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:35:12 UTC No. 16247268
>>16247266
With 3 posts per minute or whatever, it's not exactly prioritized.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:37:31 UTC No. 16247273
>>16247268
And yet this general is the only thread worth a damn on the whole site.
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:58:38 UTC No. 16247345
A few hours ago France and China got together to do some science
https://twitter.com/SpaceIntel101/s
>CASC to launch SVOM on its Long March 2C from Xichang SLC. SVOM (Space Variable Objects Monitor) is an LEO observatory by a Chinese-French collaboration to study gamma-ray busts
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 13:51:58 UTC No. 16247410
>>16247345
China has launched american payloads before. A long time ago. I think cooperation is cool
Anonymous at Sat, 22 Jun 2024 14:05:09 UTC No. 16247415
Staging:
>>16247414
>>16247414
>>16247414