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Anonymous No. 16262490

Chinese Excellence Edition

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Anonymous No. 16262494

they call it long march because it takes a long march from the test stand

Anonymous No. 16262496

RULO

Random Unscheduled Lift Off

Anonymous No. 16262498

>>16262494
new and strange editing technique

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Anonymous No. 16262499

don't let us die /sfg/... at least ask elon for a lift for us...

Anonymous No. 16262501

>>16262499
Nobody cares shut up

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Anonymous No. 16262504

Clear watching the post launch conference and doing her thing providing EN translations again. Thank you Clear!
Clear is also suffering from a twitchy eye today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tf-2im7OCY

Anonymous No. 16262505

when is clear interviewing elon

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>>16262282
>I want a credible explanation for this extreme drift the H3 loves doing

This island, H2 did them as well.

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>>16262509
isn't it a terrible choice for an island launch site if they can't launch straight south?

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>>16262511
Florida launches also require a dog leg for polar orbits.

Anonymous No. 16262521

Elon should forcefeed clear English lessons and have her host the official streams

Anonymous No. 16262522

Don't be so negative about the Chinese fireworks, that rocket has enthusiasm, it can't wait to fly.

Anonymous No. 16262529

>>16262517
and KSC doesn't have to deal with the inconvenience of being on an island, a real one where you can't just drive in over a bridge. the only good reason to pick an island off your mainland's coast is so you can launch to whatever inclination you want.

Anonymous No. 16262536

>>16262529
>the only good reason to pick an island off your mainland's coast is so you can launch to whatever inclination you want.

Actually the best reason you would pick an island is so you can have unlimited launch cadence without the populace sneeding about starships blowing out their windows every hour. Unfortunately tanegashima has like 20k people on it.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16262561

Black presence in space must be increased

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Successful H3 launch is successful

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>>16262490
Why does the middle of the rocket start smoking as its falling? Proton did this too

Anonymous No. 16262590

>>16262581
I think a lot of it is just the smoke and partially burnt fuel getting sucked up into the low pressure area behind the falling rocket.
The lower half of the booster is also where the fuel tank is, so if there are any leaks or ruptures the fire is going to be very fuel-rich, making it dark and sooty.

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Anonymous No. 16262610

>>16262490
We dont normaly see these kinds of leaks of china fucking up because of the great chinese firewall.
CCP is going to crack down hard now.

Anonymous No. 16262613

>>16262490
unironically a successful test

Anonymous No. 16262616

>>16262613
Part of these kinds of tests is looking if their is damage to the engines and structure after the test.
Cant do that now.

Anonymous No. 16262622

>>16262610
The firewall is easy to circumvent for anyone even a little tech savvy. Really viral shit like this doesn't even need to breach it since it can spread enough on their own platforms before it is stamped out. The consequences of hurting national feelings is the bigger problem than the lack of easy access to outside media platforms.

Anonymous No. 16262628

>>16262610
CCP isnt going to do shit lol. You're a fucking retard

Anonymous No. 16262629

>>16262581
Not built to spec of free falling while tumbling, so cracks and leaks are to be expected.

Anonymous No. 16262631

>>16262628
Educate yourself, wumao.

Anonymous No. 16262644

>>16262581
>>16262610
>Rocketry With Chinese Characteristics

Anonymous No. 16262671

>>16262631
HA you can eat my shit

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Anonymous No. 16262704

>>16262490
"Once rocket go up,
Who care where come down?
That not my department,"
Says Wengchang von Blaun!

Anonymous No. 16262719

It's okay when SpaceX blows up a rocket

Anonymous No. 16262722

>>16262719
depends how they blow up, for some reason this seems to be too difficult to understand

Anonymous No. 16262723

>>16262719
SpaceX doesnt drops it's boosters on american homes.

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>>16262723
if they did you'd defend it

Anonymous No. 16262730

>>16262728
if it was on your house then yes

Anonymous No. 16262747

>>16262610
Ah yes, barely missing a village with a hydrazine stink bomb. I see nothing has changed, very implessive

Anonymous No. 16262776

>>16262498
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Anonymous No. 16262779

Can’t really explain why but my thought process is:
>proton rocket flips and blows up
I point and laugh at the incompetency
>china drops boosters on populated areas and lets a static fire rocket loose
I shrug and say it’s fine. A little crazy, but fine

Anonymous No. 16262781

>>16262719
It's always okay to blow up a rocket if it's kino.

Anonymous No. 16262793

>>16262581
>If engine is pointing up you are having a bad problem and you will not be going to space today

Anonymous No. 16262796

>>16262793
XD

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SPEHS

Anonymous No. 16262810

>>16262719
I’m ok with china blowing up this one too.

Anonymous No. 16262859

LISTEN TO ME, THE ASTRONAUTS AREN'T STRANDED
they are just having an undefined extension (months, years, who knows) to their trip

Anonymous No. 16262866

>>16262490
whoah what happened there

Anonymous No. 16262868

Hi it's me Tim Dodd the everyday astronaut welcome back to Starbase

Anonymous No. 16262869

>>16262868
thats insane

Anonymous No. 16262874

>>16262590
>I think a lot of it is just the smoke and partially burnt fuel getting sucked up into the low pressure area behind the falling rocket.
This. You can see dust getting stuck like this behind cars.

Anonymous No. 16262877

>>16262494
It's named after the Long March, which had 32 days.

Anonymous No. 16262879

>>16262728
I would

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>>16262859
I'm not homeless, I'm merely housing-challenged.

Anonymous No. 16262881

>>16262869
yeah
>>16262880
person experiencing homelessness (not made up)

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Anonymous No. 16262882

which beverage is Elon Musk enjoying?

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>>16262866
s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶c̶ dynamic fire

Anonymous No. 16262886

>>16262882
estrogen

Anonymous No. 16262900

>>16262882
nectar of the gods (diet coke)

Anonymous No. 16262902

>>16262900
Tooth-solvent trash

Anonymous No. 16262906

>>16262882
Rum-coke on ice it seems, with a bit of lime.

Anonymous No. 16262908

So it's monday. Still no starliner update? Really getting that noggin joggin nasa

Anonymous No. 16262909

>>16262882
RP-1

Anonymous No. 16262910

>>16262902
You are weak

Anonymous No. 16262923

>>16262517
West Palm beach is about 35 miles east of KSC, launching straight south would go over (highly populated) land

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JAXA slides on future reusability

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>>16262925
this shit is like 4 years old and you’re only posting it becuase you saw it on twitter

Anonymous No. 16262929

>>16262928
yes and?

Anonymous No. 16262931

>>16262929
so my point is this general has become “hey look at what the twitter algorithm showed me. I love spitter rofl!”

Anonymous No. 16262958

>>16262910
nta but I always prefered the coke with sugar, not the fake diet coke.

Anonymous No. 16262972

I've been growing portobello shroomies for awhile now for the purpose of hydrazine extraction. does anyone on here know a good source of nitrogen tetroxide?

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Anonymous No. 16262973

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1807816199608406172

Anonymous No. 16262976

>>16262728
hell yeah I would

Anonymous No. 16262978

>>16262931
Yes and? If you got something else relevant, post. Seeting about spitter for no reason other than to seethe is counterproductive

Anonymous No. 16262979

>>16262973
what, if anything, do we make of this tweet?

Anonymous No. 16262982

>>16262923
>West Palm beach is about 35 miles east of KSC
It's in the Atlantic Ocean?

Anonymous No. 16262984

>>16262979
!!

Anonymous No. 16262985

>>16262982
latitude genius

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>>16262879
>>16262976
> muskrats are slavish as ccp bugs
no surprise there

Anonymous No. 16262991

>>16262989
Elon could literally kill my father, rape my sister and mother, drown my dog. He could dwstroy my career and burn my home to the ground. Fuck and impregnate my girlfriend (if I had one). All while I watch in horror, but still I would support him at the end of the day. Anything that gets us closer to Mars and I mean it. I dont think anyone here can really comprehend perfect devotion

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Anonymous No. 16262998

Today I learned that Brazil has a landscape resembling that of Titan. Except on Titan the dunes are made of water and the water is made of liquid methane.

Anonymous No. 16262999

>>16262985
>ESL still doesn't know the meaning of the word "east"

Anonymous No. 16263005

>>16262998
That's just begging for a rainforest

Anonymous No. 16263006

>>16263005
why. Its right next to a real rainforest anyway.

Anonymous No. 16263007

>>16262991
>Fuck and impregnate my girlfriend
elon only does artificial insemination, he never had sex (but you're still a cuck)

Anonymous No. 16263009

>>16263007
why are all his children male

Anonymous No. 16263010

>>16263007
Lmfao if you actually believe this. Holy crap if you ACTUALLY believe this ahahaha

Anonymous No. 16263014

>>16263009
I think he actually had a bio girl recently
>>16263010
it’s true and it’s disgusting cody

Anonymous No. 16263017

>>16263014
>i never saw him have sex
>therefore he never did
dude, he fucks every cute intern that walks in the door. it is what it is

Anonymous No. 16263018

>>16263006
Forest biome > desert biome

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Anonymous No. 16263019

If elon never had sex in his life, then why does everybody think elon cucked johhny depp?

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Anonymous No. 16263023

>>16263019
left one is hotter.

Anonymous No. 16263025

>>16263019
I'm just watching the second part of the Starbase tour and Elon seems very awkward.

Anonymous No. 16263029

>>16263019
Apparently he took a poop in Depp's bed and had a threesome with those two girls (Amber was married). She was ultimately banished to Spain and name changed to Martha Jane Cannary

Anonymous No. 16263031

>>16263017
That’s degenerate

Anonymous No. 16263032

>>16263031
Honestly that's what I've been doing. They always fall for it, they think I'm in love with them

Anonymous No. 16263034

>>16263017
and yet never had a child through normal means, curious

Anonymous No. 16263037

>>16263034
Your sentence makes zero sense.

Anonymous No. 16263038

>>16263032
>that's what I've been doing
how do you do it

Anonymous No. 16263039

>>16263025
First time watching him talk?
He is always akward.

Anonymous No. 16263042

>>16263038
Just be confident (or fake confident) the first few times you meet them. Make them laugh, act like you own the place.

Anonymous No. 16263047

>>16263025
he's the King of Spergs

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How to cope with the fact that Starship launches look mundane?

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>>16263061
I think I like Starship better than Saturn V.
Hard to make myself admit this, but I suppose it’s the natural order of things. Technology is supposed to get better and better and SS-SH represents the next step up from Saturn V.
Space Launch System can guzzle a dick it isn’t even close

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>>16263069
I agree; nostalgia about the old way of doing things stops you from looking at the way new things are better, and obsolete machinery should not have capabilities you wish you still had.

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Post Starship kino

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>>16263019
also made amber heard wear a cosplay costume and posted it on x lmao
I think the post is deleted now though

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1701772977061392643
>She did dress up as Mercy. It was awesome.

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Anonymous No. 16263081

>finally go to space and board the ISS
>it reeks like SHIT
Can you really blame him for becoming disillusioned?

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Anonymous No. 16263082

https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1807838335546568764
>Aftermath. The drop zone of the of SpacePioneer/Tianbing’s Tianlong 3.

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Anonymous No. 16263083

>>16263081
Cant be as bad as MIR.
That place had new lifeforms growing behind the panels.

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At least the first flight was aesthetic

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https://x.com/stormhqwx/status/1807830274794729579
Isn’t this the party boat that would always float by during the hop campaign?

Anonymous No. 16263098

>>16263097
I was pretty sure that boat was a local operation

Anonymous No. 16263101

>>16263097
Different ship iirc, pretty sure it's a charter out of Port Isabel

Anonymous No. 16263105

>>16263082
not terrible, truth be told

Anonymous No. 16263112

>>16262494
Usually, rockets are supposed to do that

Anyway, different company, different rockets

Anonymous No. 16263115

>>16263081
>ISS smells like shit
>Axiom space uses ISS to kick off new space station
>gets infected with shit smell

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16263119

>>16262723
No, they just drop Dragon trunks and Falcon COPVs on farms and camping sites. Apparently, designing them such that they would properly burn up on reentry or drop into the ocean was just too much effort.

Also an ISS battery was recently dropped on a house in Florida
https://spacenews.com/nasa-and-spacex-studying-ways-to-mitigate-dragon-trunk-debris/
https://www.space.com/spacex-rocket-debris-found-washington-farm

Anonymous No. 16263121

>>16263081
>>16263115
damn I remember this. blame the american astronaunt for that.

Anonymous No. 16263122

>>16263081
they just need to roll down a window every once in a while, let the place air out.

Anonymous No. 16263124

>>16262723
No, they just drop Dragon trunks and Falcon COPVs on farms and camping sites. Apparently, designing them such that they would reliably burn up on reentry or drop into the ocean was just too much effort.

Also an ISS battery was recently dropped on a house in Florida
https://spacenews.com/nasa-and-spacex-studying-ways-to-mitigate-dragon-trunk-debris/
https://www.space.com/spacex-rocket-debris-found-washington-farm

Anonymous No. 16263131

>>16262499
They didn't survive the launch. NASA trying to figure out how to fake their return.

Anonymous No. 16263134

>>16262610
We see these literally every time they happen

Anonymous No. 16263141

>>16263119
>>16263124
If you read the articles you would find out that most of the time they burn up in return but sometimes pieces survive and they are looking in to it so it will always burn up in the future.
They admit there is a problem, and they are trying to fix it, this is not only spaceX, but nasa who wants to adress the problem.
You can find these articles on google with no problem.
Now compare that to CCP china that has been dropping it's stages for half a century now on rural china and doesnt seem to give a fuck, knowingly dropping hypergolic stages on them.
The most recent test with the rocket that ripped itself from the platform and went up, china claimed the onboard computer shut down and the rocket was nowhere close to civilisation, meanwhile we know both of those are massive lies.
We see the engine blow up, not a shutdown, and from the several vidoes and from maps we can see how close the towns where.
All fucking lies by the CCP.

I know you wumao's are going to turn this in to a "see its okay if spaceX/the US does it" hypocrit thing, but that's bullshit.
I'm sick and fucking tired about you wumao's always trying to pull a whataboutism, it's so cheap and pathetic.

Anonymous No. 16263142

>>16263134
No we dont.

Anonymous No. 16263152

>>16263141
>sometimes pieces survive
Hence why I added "reliably"

>they are trying to fix it
>Now compare that to CCP china that has been dropping it's stages for half a century now on rural china
Xichang is the biggest source of the problem and it had its first launch in 1990. They're also slowly working to fix the issue - the fix is Wenchang - so I guess they're excused too.

Anonymous No. 16263155

>>16263134
>>16263142
We can't know

Anonymous No. 16263160

>>16262719
>>16263124
>but what about
Putting aside that SpaceX's fuckup doesn't excuse your government's malicious disregard for human life.
An inert structural member that has unintentionally survived re-entry isn't the same as knowingly and repeatedly raining nitric acid on your own populace chang. Bottled cancer raining from the sky every time you launch isn't a "oops it happened again teehee" contingency, it's the default outcome your space agency expects and your government doesn't give a solitary fuck it happens.

Anonymous No. 16263163

>nsf thinks tower 2 will be fully stacked by mid august
that's fast

Anonymous No. 16263164

>>16263152
China has been testing&launching rockets from deep inside china since the start of the cold war, and the first stages had to go somewhere all those decades.
What you are saying is bullshit.
And the only way to "fix" it is to have the stages do a controled landing like falcon 9, but i dont see the chinese pulling that off as good as spaceX did.

>>16263155
Yeah that happens in a communist hellhole that has complete control over the media.

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Anonymous No. 16263169

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpc8Kcg8lNE
>SpaceX Gears Up for First Super Heavy Booster Catch! | Starbase Update

Anonymous No. 16263174

>>16263163
Remember just few days after IFT-4 launch when Musk said he was going to catch at next attempt?

People then predicted it would take 6months - 1+ years to build the second tower. And thus if IFT-5 fails to catch, SpaceX would be set back by 1+ years because of lack of towers.

Horse shits

Anonymous No. 16263179

>>16263174
it will take a year to build the second tower, stacking the tower doesnt mean its finished. they still need to add the wench, elevator, launch stand, etc.

Anonymous No. 16263180

>>16263179
-t boeing engineer

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>>16263163
that is based on the big crane config and some paperwork given to the FAA (I guess its so high it might be a flight hazard?)

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>>16263186
heights of the configs

Anonymous No. 16263190

>>16263141
>china claimed
Space Pioneer claimed

>We see the engine blow up, not a shutdown
While SP is certainly trying to put a positive spin on things, this is not necessarily technically a lie. The computer was probably programmed to immediately shut the engines down if it detected anything wrong with any part of the propulsion system.

>the rocket was nowhere close to civilisation
The sentence SP used was 火箭跌落在距离试车台西南1.5公里的深山中,箭体跌落山中后解体。本次试验地点远离巩义市区. Google Translate translates this as
>The rocket fell into a deep mountain 1.5 kilometers southwest of the test platform, and the rocket body disintegrated after falling into the mountain. The test site is far away from the urban area of Gongyi
"Far away" is relative. Although, translating just 远离, it apparently just means "away" or "removed", with no "far" in it by itself, that's something Google Translate added. I have no idea what the exact connotations are of 远离 in terms of magnitude. Again, it seems SP is trying to put a positive spin on things without technically lying.

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/6K2mdDWviOlk30oU-JH90Q

Anonymous No. 16263199

>>16263160
They're exactly the same thing. Both are cases of not bothering with the effort to go the extra mile to reduce risk to the public down to zero. The only difference one can argue about is in the degree of risk.

Anonymous No. 16263203

>>16263164
I don't think Taiyuan and Jiuquan have nearly the same level of population density in the drop zones

>complete control over the media.
Evidently, either the control is not complete, or they do not care about exercising control on this matter, because otherwise we wouldn't be seeing any of this at all

Anonymous No. 16263204

>>16263190
First, we only have their word that it even had a shutdown computer, second, if it had one, it did jack shit by the looks of it.
Third, they where very lucky it went the way it did, because on the opposite side of the launchsite the towns where a lot closer.

Anonymous No. 16263207

>>16263203
>I don't think Taiyuan and Jiuquan have nearly the same level of population density in the drop zones

>It's okay because less people live there.

And we know the CCP is trying to crack down hard on VPN's in china, because all these leaks usually find their way over the great chinese firewall via VPN's.

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can they make ship 12m while keeping booster 9m?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16263226

>>16263207
>It's okay because less people live there.
Yes, at a certain level it is. Vessels traffic every part of the high seas, even east of New Zealand, yet it's still considered an acceptably safe place to crash space junk. There is no place that is entirely and always void of people. Actually, the South China Sea might be a more dangerous place to drop stages than the Gobi wastes around of Jiuquan.

Anonymous No. 16263227

>>16263207
>It's okay because less people live there.
Yes, at a certain level it is. Vessels go to every part of the high seas, even east of New Zealand, yet it's still considered an acceptably safe place to crash space junk. There is no place that is entirely and always void of people. Actually, the South China Sea might be a more dangerous place to drop stages than the Gobi wastes around of Jiuquan.

Anonymous No. 16263230

>>16263223
what would be the point?

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1807632775664771336

Anonymous No. 16263244

>>16263204
I don't know what you mean by "shutdown computer". I don't think there needs to be a special computer for that.

The computer shutting the engines down in case of a malfunction being detected would be an entirely normal and sensible way to prepare a test like this. It's a very reasonable to think that the computer would have been programmed in such a manner.

>if it had one, it did jack shit by the looks of it.
What do you base this assessment on? To me it looks like the engines performed normally, until some kind of malfunction caused a kerosene leak (black smoke) at which point the engines began to wind down. This wind-down may have been due to the malfunction itself, or it may have been due to the computer detecting the malfunction and shutting the engines down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dU9uWN3fYQ
It certainly didn't run out of propellant, as we could see from the explosion on impact.

>they where very lucky it went the way it did
Certainly

Anonymous No. 16263250

>>16263207
>all these leaks usually find their way over the great chinese firewall via VPN's
They're apparently not doing much to censor such "leaks". I could find such news and videos on Weibo with a simple search.
https://s.weibo.com/weibo?q=%E5%A4%A9%E5%85%B5%E7%A7%91%E6%8A%80%E5%B7%A9%E4%B9%89
https://s.weibo.com/weibo?q=%E7%81%AB%E7%AE%AD%E5%9D%A0%E8%90%BD%20%E8%B4%B5%E5%B7%9E

Anonymous No. 16263252

>>16263073
>drone gets shaken by shockwave at 0:36
kino

Anonymous No. 16263254

>>16263250
Somebody click that link because trust weibo even less then tiktok.

Anonymous No. 16263257

>>16263230
more engines and easier landing on moon

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I have been wondering for a while now, could we use lasers and sails to propel satellites and avoid orbit decay, hence, keeping them for longer? Or is the added mass of the sail + the cost of(probably a gigawatt) a laser too expensive to work?

Anonymous No. 16263263

>>16263260
think about what causes orbital decay and think about what effect a sail would have on that.

Anonymous No. 16263265

>>16263260
Of you want a satellite orbit to last forever just put it in a higher orbit
Sail+laser is for interstellar flybys

Anonymous No. 16263267

>>16263077
how did he pressure her into wearing such a silly costume? Bribes?

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Anonymous No. 16263276

>>16263082
Looks like they decimated the whole extant population of Ginkgo Biloba

Anonymous No. 16263278

>>16263270
this is just another spaceflight "challenge" that gets solved by doing away with mass autism. launch a 10 ton air filtration system. launch big ass replacement filters for it every 6 months. smell gone never to return.

Anonymous No. 16263279

>>16263160
>unintentionally
That's an interesting way of saying they considered it too expensive or cumbersome to design it in such a way that it would certainly burn up or fall in the ocean. It's not like they paused launching to redesign Dragon after this happened; it has happened several times. So they've clearly very intentionally decided to accept this risk.

It's not like CASC is intentionally aiming at villages when they launch either

Anonymous No. 16263281

>>16263267
https://youtu.be/m37G-06ibAU?si=K6KGCpt1y8XQ5b3w

Anonymous No. 16263282

>>16263257
I mean why would you make them different diameters? thats retarded

Anonymous No. 16263283

>>16263270
>NASA just announced a partnership to put an Indian in the ISS
oh no no no no no

Anonymous No. 16263284

>>16263278
just fly up some plants and shit.

Anonymous No. 16263285

>>16263270
there’s no smell on the ISS if you just remove atmosphere

Anonymous No. 16263286

>>16263285
An IVA-only station… unique!

Anonymous No. 16263287

>>16263079
keynote

Anonymous No. 16263292

>>16263285
What if we had open-vacuum space stations of sorts. Instead of trying to keep everything hermetically closed everyone just wears a durable space suit and is permanently inside a spacesuit.

Anonymous No. 16263298

>>16263285
do submarines smell as bad as the ISS? surely submarine atmosphere keeping tech can be adapted to space.

Anonymous No. 16263299

>>16263292
I’ll piggyback with an even dumber question: why did they even bother pressurizing the CSM/LM during apollo? Couldn’t they have just been a vacuum capsule with IVA suits?

My guess is that we do these things (give astronauts pressurized vehicles and stations) because we realize the need for human comforts, to a degree. You wouldn’t want to go do a 365ish day stint on the ISS and be in the same IVA suit the whole time.

Anonymous No. 16263304

>>16263298
Well also submarines routinely surface and probably have their entire interior airmass renewed pretty often. I think the record for a submarine submersion is only like 200-300 days.
The ISS has 20 years of recycled air

Anonymous No. 16263309

>>16263304
>The ISS has 20 years of recycled air
what if we calculate in all the air capsule that dock bring in?

Anonymous No. 16263315

>>16263309
Hmm yeah I don’t know the logistics of it but I’m sure they actually bring up air (chiefly oxygen) from time to time. I guess when I said ‘recycled air’ I didn’t literally mean it has the exact same air as fuel 1999 or whatever lol. Just that it’s very stale, moldy, smelly air that has to be recycled for long periods

Anonymous No. 16263316

>>16263292
What is the point of 365/24/7 manned space stations anyway

Anonymous No. 16263319

>>16263270
just send up a tank of O2 and N2 every couple months wtf

Anonymous No. 16263320

>>16263316
clearly not to do animal reproduction experiments in space

Anonymous No. 16263321

>>16263267
Most of the time girls will just do whatever you tell them.

Anonymous No. 16263322

>>16263316
to collect 30 years of experimental samples (that get destroyed because of some female astronaunt shitting in space anyway)

Anonymous No. 16263328

>>16263270
Also the freefall means you have blobs of water lurking out of sight acting as breeding grounds for bacteria.

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Anonymous No. 16263329

>>16263316
We do these things not because they are easy but because humans have autism and america has lots of money and can afford to front the bill for robotic space exploration of the solar system, expensive telescopes, and humans to new frontiers that are more likely than not going to be huge money-making plots of real estate in the future, and even throwing billions-trillion at space it is still but a teeny tiny % of our overall piggybank

Anonymous No. 16263331

>>16263329
this is the actual JFK quote btw

Anonymous No. 16263332

>>16263270
I'm sure the ISS crew is enjoying the visit by the Boeing crew with only one pair of underwear for over a month now.

Anonymous No. 16263335

>>16263328
how do we round up these blobs of water.

Anonymous No. 16263341

>>16263335
Spin the ISS

Anonymous No. 16263351

>>16263341
Ackshually it's already spinning so the same side of the ISS points down at Earth at all times.

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>>16263341
AAAAAAHHH!! THE SPINCELS ARE BACK I'M GOING INSAAANE!!

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Anonymous No. 16263361

https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/1807886185261359356
>Happy launch day y'all! Alpha FLTA-005 now stands ready to fly 8 NASA CubeSats. Weather is green and the team is on track for liftoff from SLD 30 at 9:03 pm PDT. Livestream with @Nasaspaceflight will begin at T-30 minutes to launch. Get notified here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6nYZEVsMc0

Anonymous No. 16263368

>>16263190
Cope all you want but it's a hilariously blatant lie. The computer shut down the engines after they started failing (high in the air) when it should have as soon as it broke free.

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Anonymous No. 16263391

https://x.com/BigTechAlert/status/1807813744321257912

Anonymous No. 16263419

>>16263316
So somebody has a first seat view of earth hitting the fan.

Anonymous No. 16263422

>>16263391
sudo make rocket

Anonymous No. 16263425

>>16263316
Law of the sea applies to space
If US/international astronauts left then Russia could claim salvage rights

Anonymous No. 16263433

>>16263234
In reality, Mechazilla's arms bounce around like a motherfucker when you close them quickly, so they don't get tight enough for the rails to slide under the holding points. I hope they try the catch for IFT5 but those arms are not nearly stable enough based on the recent tests

Anonymous No. 16263435

>>16263425
ISS is remote controlled.
I think they can only do that if the station has lost all connection to earth.

Anonymous No. 16263436

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSiDTgB-NXY
>Will Starship Get Bigger ? Propellant tank sizes and rocket diameters

new eager vid

Anonymous No. 16263439

>>16263436
Eagers last video about why Starship is late was easily his best. People don't have a good grasp on just how much of a performance hit full reuse is.

Anonymous No. 16263440

>>16263433
yeah, musk talked about this in the estrogenaut's vid, the arms are too long, it takes too much power to swing them and too much break power to slow them down.
They need to be shorter to have more control.
That's why the new towers arms will be a lot shorter.
But that means they really need to pin down superheavy coming down to bullseye.

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>>16263057
Those engines relighting after separation

Anonymous No. 16263454

>>16263069
The thing looks like the freight train equivalent of a rocket. It's so fantastically industrial.

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Anonymous No. 16263471

I believe space planes are the future and not rockets

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Anonymous No. 16263473

https://x.com/heospace/status/1807882620606599314
>HEO captured images of the Resurs-P1 satellite in-orbit prior to the debris creation event. We’re seeing that Resurs-P1, P2, and P3 show anomalies around the deployment state of the solar arrays, which could explain what happened. We will be conducting more imaging missions.

Anonymous No. 16263477

>>16263439
>People don't have a good grasp on just how much of a performance hit full reuse is.
Probably more so on the stated margins that SpaceX was working with. On that SpaceX never clearly said how bad raptor one was or just how heavy starship really was.

Anonymous No. 16263478

>>16263368
Is it a lie? They didn't specify exactly when the computer shut down the engines

Anonymous No. 16263480

>>16263473
so it was an accident

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16263484

this fucking DOG didnt even consider the 16m variant. Why be such a stupid nigger and try to do serious analysis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSiDTgB-NXY

Anonymous No. 16263487

>>16263484
>16m
Literally suggested by nobody, at any point, ever.

Anonymous No. 16263490

>>16263487
suggested by ELON MUSK YOU GAS LIGHTING FAAG!!!!

Anonymous No. 16263491

>>16263490
source?

Anonymous No. 16263492

>>16263480
Probably. It could have gotten winged by a piece of uncatalogued debris, but old derelict satellites have the bad habit of exploding more that most people realize.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16263493

>>16263491
KILL YOURSELF.

Anonymous No. 16263494

>>16263493
thought so fag
lmao

Anonymous No. 16263495

>thinks Starship will ever be above 9m

delusional

Anonymous No. 16263497

>>16263495
Not like they're limited by the size of US roads for it, so why the fuck not.

Anonymous No. 16263498

>>16263497
Because felon husk is a scam artist

Anonymous No. 16263501

>>16263495
you're right
the 12m next generation megaheavy will be named something different

Anonymous No. 16263502

EAGER SHITSKIN
>inb4 source

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>>16263436
>video about starship
>starts blabbering on about falcon 9 for almost 10 minutes

Anonymous No. 16263504

>>16263495
Your dreams are small.

Anonymous No. 16263507

>>16263487
>>16263495
Newfags

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1166856662336102401?lang=en

Anonymous No. 16263531

>>16263507
You may want to check your eyes, it seems you're having trouble noticing the difference between 6 and 8.

Anonymous No. 16263535

>>16263471
I believe that I will get a girlfriend one day.

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>>16263495

Anonymous No. 16263539

>>16263507
I'm not going to make an account faggot

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Anonymous No. 16263544

>>16263436

Anonymous No. 16263546

18m implies propellant of 9200+ t (compared to the 1200t starship has now)

Anonymous No. 16263548

>>16263544
>per m2
what why, what’s wrong with comparing to volume

Anonymous No. 16263549

>>16263471
You think so? I’m not so convinced but maybe you have some insight I don’t.

Anonymous No. 16263553

>>16263548
assuming uniform wall thickness and cylindrical tanks, a given volume implies some specific area when you minimize the area with respect to volume
and the area is what tells you how much tank weight (roughly) you have to carry

Anonymous No. 16263555

>>16263544
Do you really need a 17 minute video to say that the square-cube law grows a wet mass a lot faster than its dry mass, and that's good because mass ratios are important?

Anonymous No. 16263557

>>16263555
no, but it summarized the video pretty well
and the conclusion was also something I've been saying here before
yes, a bigger diameter might be better, but they would have to re-do all of the infrastructure so it doesn't make sense in the short term

Anonymous No. 16263559

>>16263083
https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/ames/ames-science/ames-space-biosciences/multi-drug-resistant-bacteria-found-on-iss-mutating-to-become-functionally-distinct/

Anonymous No. 16263560

>>16263422
>sudo make rocket
*10 missed calls from Blue Origin*

Anonymous No. 16263565

>>16263471
Somebody has to crack the engine issue. Space planes don't seem feasible without an engine that can do air-breathing sub/super/hypersonic flight and THEN switch to onboard oxidizer. Multiple engine types start eating the mass budget fast, and spaceplanes have a crappy budget.

Anonymous No. 16263574

>>16263553
Yeah but the surface area of, say, a cube tank and a sphere tank could be wildly different while containing the same volume of fuel, no?
Your mass will be wildly different if you assume surface area is directly correlated with tank mass

Anonymous No. 16263577

>>16263574
Nobody's making cube or sphere rockets. You want to? Go nuts.

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Anonymous No. 16263583

>>16263577

Anonymous No. 16263588

>>16263583
And how did that go?

Anonymous No. 16263604

>>16263565
God I fucking hope the Brits continue funding Reaction Engines. Not even a spaceplanefag but SABRE seems interesting if they could actually make it work.

Anonymous No. 16263606

>>16263604
The precooler is very impressive and definitely a significant hurdle that they got past.
Unfortunately, these engines have like four or five more hurdles of equal or greater difficulty.

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Anonymous No. 16263608

>>16263607
shotwell_fairing_refrigerator_story.txt

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Anonymous No. 16263611

The New Glenn test article is currently free standing at LC-36

Anonymous No. 16263612

>>16263611
can't wait to watch BO finally make it into orbit after 25 years

Anonymous No. 16263613

>>16263612
I can't wait for it to become overshadowed by a fully reusable vehicle, starship

Anonymous No. 16263614

>>16263611
new glenn is real, you've seen it down at lc-36

Anonymous No. 16263618

>>16263082
It's lucky that it fell down in that little ravine. Most of the blast was deflected up. It it had hit a hillside facing the town, the over pressure would have broken a lot more windows than it did.

Anonymous No. 16263619

>>16263611
Blue Origin seems to be very successful at making test articles

Anonymous No. 16263620

>>16263613
The nice thing about New Glenn is that it's almost a superheavy lift rocket as it is right now. It's got plenty of payload capacity making the second stage reusable and still be the second largest commercial rocket in the world.

Anonymous No. 16263622

>>16263620
>it's almost a superheavy lift rocket as it is right now

I don't think a paper rocket with an untested first stage test article counts as a superheavy lift rocket.

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Anonymous No. 16263628

>>16263622
I wouldn't call it a paper rocket. It's not operational yet, but it's pretty far from just being a powerpoint presentation

Anonymous No. 16263629

>>16263267
> pressure
LMAO

Anonymous No. 16263632

>>16263121
The cost of allowing one fucking bitch where they don't belong: $30 billions wasted.

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Anonymous No. 16263637

>>16263270
>ssnffffffffffffff

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Anonymous No. 16263652

https://x.com/sqm18astro/status/1807305066665419143
>Asteroid 2024 MK [22:24~22:38JST]
>Miraculously, it was clear in Tokyo too, so I was able to take some photos! It was so fast that you could see it moving at 1 second intervals. The width is about three full moons.

We had an asteroid make a close flyby last night. 2024 MK didn't come exceptionally close, only 290,000 km, so it was inside lunar orbit but not near enough to be inside geostationary. That said, it was around 150-250m across so you could spot it with a fairly small telescope.

Anonymous No. 16263655

>>16263267
>pressure
Have you never heard of these women called cosplayers?

Anonymous No. 16263658

>>16262719
blowing up a rocket on a farm in Texas, with clearly defined safety and evacuation zones and the rocket under active control: okay
blowing up a rocket in a swamp in Texas, with clearly defined safety and evacuation zones and the rocket under active control: okay
blowing up a rocket over the ocean off the coast of Florida, with clearly defined safety and evacuation zones and the rocket under active control: okay

a rocket that escaped the test stand several hundred meters from a populated area with no active guidance or control suffering an in-flight failure that cut its flight short falling halfway between the test stand and a populated area: very much not okay

Anonymous No. 16263666

>>16263628
September 29th of this year, and that’s a pretty hard deadline as it’s a NASA payload going to Mars

I’m going to pound sand when it actually works and BO gets hardware in Mars orbit before SpaceX

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Anonymous No. 16263671

>>16263668
whats with this meme? lets get kim jongun and xi on it.

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Anonymous No. 16263675

T-60:00
If anyone is around in California, Nevada, or western Arizona you should have clear skies and a good chance to see something

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Anonymous No. 16263676

>>16263675
Here's the flight timeline so you can line up what you can expect to see when the rocket is visible

Anonymous No. 16263677

I support exploding rockets anywhere and everywhere so long as it advances spaceflight. Who cares about some e*rthers?

Bonus points for kinography.

Anonymous No. 16263681

>>16263637
She's pretty. I bet she's nice.

Anonymous No. 16263689

>>16262866
rocket escaped the test stand and almost hit a city
>>16262973
yeah
>>16263227
everything on the ocean is mobile, and you can just publish a "don't be here" notice before launching so everybody has a chance to not be there when you do

Anonymous No. 16263693

>>16263681
she actually is pretty nice

Anonymous No. 16263698

>>16263471
stupid frogposter

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Anonymous No. 16263705

WHO IS THAT QT???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28SCSyMUKMw

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Anonymous No. 16263706

>>16263676
>>16263675
Dope.

Anonymous No. 16263711

>>16263199
There is such a thing as an acceptable level of risk. The two are not equivalent.

Anonymous No. 16263716

"rocket" finna blow up

Anonymous No. 16263719

WHERE IS CLEAR???

Anonymous No. 16263720

>>16263668
wow that's insane

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Anonymous No. 16263723

>>16263285
Biology requiring atmosphere is a temporary hurdle

Anonymous No. 16263724

>>16262991
wtf i don't remember making this based post

Anonymous No. 16263728

>>16263723
the answer is yes there are theoretical ways to remove atmosphere resistance in the direct path of a rocket

Anonymous No. 16263729

>>16263705
opened the stream with one minute to launch

Anonymous No. 16263730

pathetic

Anonymous No. 16263731

megafail

Anonymous No. 16263732

HOLD

Anonymous No. 16263733

>>16263729
Well I'm glad I wasn't watching for longer

Anonymous No. 16263734

Fuck this shit

Anonymous No. 16263736

hurr durr space is hard guys

Anonymous No. 16263737

>watch spacex stream
>identical to the last 100

>watch other rocket stream
>rocket doesn't launch

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Anonymous No. 16263739

just blow it up at this point, why is the stream still on? stop wasting everyones time

Anonymous No. 16263741

>>16263728
Could the principal of supercavitation be applied to an object soaring through the lower atmosphere?

Anonymous No. 16263742

>>16263728
>in the direct path of a rocket
why stop there?

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Anonymous No. 16263743

>rocket is called firefly
>it doesn't glow in the dark with bioluminescence

Anonymous No. 16263745

>>16263742
We don't need to remove the whole thing, just a tunnel between surface and LEO, temporarily.

Anonymous No. 16263746

>>16263743
>rocket is call firefly
>no fire
>not flying

Anonymous No. 16263748

>>16263743
>Firefly
>no fire
>doesn't fly

Anonymous No. 16263750

>>16263748
fuck you that was my joke

Anonymous No. 16263751

So now no twilight laumch? I'm kms?

Anonymous No. 16263754

>>16263750
puny minds in the same rut

Anonymous No. 16263755

>>16263745
>We don't need to remove the whole thing

Weak earther mindset

Anonymous No. 16263758

>keep your eyes on the rocket I guess but it's vandenberg
kek

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Anonymous No. 16263763

???????

Anonymous No. 16263764

>>16263737
Theye so boring. The rocket never launches, Elon just goes on and on about bitcoins

Anonymous No. 16263766

fucking beta cucks

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Anonymous No. 16263767

>Safing operations

Anonymous No. 16263769

what, another hold?!

Anonymous No. 16263770

firefly should just pivot away from rockets

Anonymous No. 16263772

helium problems, figures

Anonymous No. 16263774

What the fuck helium bitch

Anonymous No. 16263780

spacex doesnt use helium. be more like spacex and less like boeing.

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Anonymous No. 16263785

Please understand, helium is extremely difficult to work with

Anonymous No. 16263794

It's not that easy in heliumery

Anonymous No. 16263847

>>16263263
Well, you only have to deploy it when you want to push it back, also, would drag be that impactful? Aerodynamics don't seem that important when designing a satellite.

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Anonymous No. 16263853

Are any of these chud literature? I don't want to waste time downloading something I'll just have to delete.

Anonymous No. 16263881

>>16263853
Not spaceflight fuck off

Anonymous No. 16263882

>>16263853
manchester and junger are very based. american caesar is one of my favorite books ever. hayek is a dreadful writer and anyone who recommends him has never actually read him.

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Anonymous No. 16263912

>beryl has become a category 5 hurricane
apocalypse coming

Anonymous No. 16263918

>>16263912
For the Yucatan. The forecast is for it to weaken to a tropical storm after making landfall and reentering the gulf.

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>>16263912
fixed that for you anon

Anonymous No. 16263927

>>16263918
hurricanes usually slow down and chill in the gulf for a couple of days before heading towards land

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Anonymous No. 16263964

>>16263853
I've only read Masters of Doom, a very, very long time ago. Golden days of Id and Carmack going on to do Armadillo. Comfy. There's a memorable bit where Carmack teaches himself to card count, wins 20k, and gets kicked out. The Berger book kind of reminded me of it in style.
Also, I just searched and apparently the audiobook is narrated by Wil Wheaton lol.

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Anonymous No. 16264021

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1808010887120240952

Anonymous No. 16264024

www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/7/1/us-wants-boeing-to-plead-guilty-to-fraud-over-fatal-crashes-lawyers-say

US wants Boeing to plead guilty to fraud over fatal crashes, lawyers say
Boeing said to have until end of the coming week to accept or reject prosecutors’ offer.

Anonymous No. 16264025

>>16264024
Economy
|
Aviation
US wants Boeing to plead guilty to fraud over fatal crashes, lawyers say

Boeing said to have until end of the coming week to accept or reject prosecutors’ offer.
Boeing
The US Justice Department contends that Boeing violated an agreement intended to resolve a 2021 charge of conspiracy to defraud the US government [Ted S Warren/AP]
Published On 1 Jul 20241 Jul 2024

The United States Justice Department is pushing Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud in connection with two deadly plane crashes involving its 737 Max jetliners, according to several people who heard federal prosecutors detail a proposed offer Sunday.

Boeing will have until the end of the coming week to accept or reject the offer, which includes the giant aerospace company agreeing to an independent monitor who would oversee its compliance with anti-fraud laws, they said.
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The case stems from the department’s determination that Boeing violated an agreement that was intended to resolve a 2021 charge of conspiracy to defraud the US government.

Prosecutors alleged at the time that Boeing misled regulators who approved the 737 Max and set pilot-training requirements to fly the plane. The company blamed two relatively low-level employees for the fraud.

The Justice Department told relatives of some of the 346 people who died in the 2018 and 2019 crashes about the plea offer during a video meeting.

The family members, who want Boeing to face a criminal trial and pay a $24.8bn fine, reacted angrily. One said prosecutors were gaslighting the families; another shouted at them for several minutes when given a chance to speak.

Anonymous No. 16264028

>>16264025
>>16264024
>Boeing prosecutor found dead in suspected suicide

Anonymous No. 16264031

>>16264028
Man it's stressful being around boeing litigation, I should look into that.

Anonymous No. 16264035

>>16264025
>The family members, who want Boeing to face a criminal trial and pay a $24.8bn fine
Isn't this excessive.

Anonymous No. 16264047

>>16264035
maybe but so is SLS getting $23 billion

Anonymous No. 16264105

How long will the current launch bubble last? Surely they can't keep launching rockets like every day?

Anonymous No. 16264108

>>16264105
even when starlink is 'done', they have 45000 sats or whatever, they'll still need to launch at about the same rate to maintain the constellation

Anonymous No. 16264117

>>16264108
starlink is going to look tame and unambitious compared to what's coming once starship is flying 100x a year too

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Anonymous No. 16264138

https://x.com/SpoxSpace/status/1807869202243457483

Anonymous No. 16264162

>>16262779
The not so static fire and the proton should be in the same category, both very stupid mistakes.
Dropping boosters on villages is just crazy though.

Anonymous No. 16264165

>>16264162
yeah man that's insane

Anonymous No. 16264168

>>16262779
for me proton's so funny because i've done the same thing in kerbal many times setting the control point upside down and it looks exactly the same when it happens

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Anonymous No. 16264183

>>16264138
>ERECFUCC

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Anonymous No. 16264189

>>16264138
reminder that SpaceX is doing twice the launches they were contracted for because Starmaligner keeps getting delayed

Anonymous No. 16264194

>>16264108
they'll do refreshes/redesigns of the sats as well so there will always be an incentive to launch. really a great market even more so with how absolute dogshit all ISPs are (though mine is good so might be some west coast luck there)

Anonymous No. 16264196

>>16264105
>>16264108
When starlink is 'done' and launch cadence dips they'll rake in pallets of cash from starlink subscriptions without the ongoing expense of launches. The global commercial launch market collapsing because SpaceX launched everything is very bad, the starlink launch backlog collapsing because SpaceX launched all of them will open the cash floodgates.

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Anonymous No. 16264228

https://www.nbd.com.cn/articles/2024-07-01/3449671.html

"“我们发动机太好了,性能太强了。”上述工作人员说。他还表示,火箭(意外)升空后,公司主动关机让火箭掉下来,“这是我们先设置好,它必须关机,都是有预案的”。

"Our engines are too good, the performances are too strong." The said staff member said. He also said that after the rocket (accidentally) lifted off, the company took the initiative to shut down the engine to let the rocket fall, "This is what we set up first, it must be shut down, all pre-planned."


Unbelievably based chink.

Anonymous No. 16264229

>>16264228
So he’s either telling the truth and this is based or he’s lying, becuase hullo manlet claims the engines exploded and that’s the only thing that stopped this stage from becoming a rapid unscheduled ICBM lol

Anonymous No. 16264231

>>16264229
The test was supposed to last 30 seconds, they did send the order to shut it down after 30 seconds, sadly it exploded after only 15-20 seconds :(

Anonymous No. 16264239

>>16263689
>everything on the ocean is mobile, and you can just publish a "don't be here" notice
You can do the equivalent actions on land, if you care to, because people are mobile. Static objects like houses can be insured or paid compensation for

Anonymous No. 16264242

Why is BO slower than ULA?

Anonymous No. 16264247

>>16264242
because Blue Origin’s mascot (the very essence of the ethos of the company) is a turtle—whilst ULA’s is a rocket with big lips

Anonymous No. 16264249

>>16264247
Every company needs a mascot. What is SpaceX’s?

Anonymous No. 16264250

>>16263711
What is the acceptable risk exactly? How do you weigh the risk against the economic/military/scientific need to launch? How do you balance the risk of launching inland versus the military need to keep your launch sites protected?

Have you calculated the risk and benefit posed by SpaceX launches and concluded whether the risk vs benefit is acceptable? Big chunks falling on things like camping grounds suggests the risk might not have been that low. Dragon is mostly a vanity project anyway, and the benefit of launch is quite low, compared to for example observation, navigation and communication satellites that are critical military/economic national infrastructure, so the threshold of what is acceptable risk should be far lower for Dragon.

Unlike CASCs large and mostly empty aluminium balloons, Dragon chunks and COPVs are hard to see, fall with high terminal velocity, and arrive with no advance warning

Anonymous No. 16264252

>>16264242
The external customer probably had first dibs on the first batches of flight engines

Anonymous No. 16264258

>>16264249
Jessie
https://youtu.be/NLyrHGAXsRo

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Anonymous No. 16264261

>>16264249
goate 3:)

Anonymous No. 16264262

>>16264249
Flap-chan.

Anonymous No. 16264271

>@FCC
to
@ITUradiocomms
: It's not 'practicable for LEO constellations to deny coverage to selected geographic areas.

Based FCC

Anonymous No. 16264274

>>16263853
>chud
Stop being a little kid, you're a grown adult ffs

Anonymous No. 16264277

>>16264271
>practicable

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Anonymous No. 16264282

>>16264249
>he doesn't know

Anonymous No. 16264287

>>16263190
No, 远离 does mean far removed. 远 is far and 离 is separate.
t. not using google translate

Anonymous No. 16264292

>>16264277
Yes, that is correct English pajeet

Anonymous No. 16264294

>>16263471
Mental illnesses are common in the United States. It is estimated that more than one in five U.S. adults live with a mental illness.

Anonymous No. 16264297

>>16263495
It's true that starship won't double in width, but only because the larger class of vehicles will have a different name.

Anonymous No. 16264298

>>16263574
The graph assumes the existing starship geometry with different diameters. It's like you didn't even look at it.

Anonymous No. 16264302

>>16264271
What does that mean.

Anonymous No. 16264306

>>16263270
>Astronauts do not have access to fresh air via a window
Source?

Anonymous No. 16264317

>>16263565
It's a retarded idea. With just some napkin math you can see that getting enough intake airflow to match the oxygen flow rate of a rocket requires impractically high air flow at the intake (gaseous air has extremely low density and is 80% not oxygen).

Once you have accelerated to a speed where might have enough incoming air for the gay air breathing engine to be beneficial, you'll already be running out of atmosphere.

Anonymous No. 16264319

>>16263724
I know it's not my post, because I couldn't just stand there and not help Elon.

Anonymous No. 16264322

>>16263748
>>16263746
kek, bretty gud

Anonymous No. 16264328

>>16263853
You have to read the Gallic War. One man changed the history of the world because he wanted to and murdered and enslaved millions of French while doing it. Caesar was based beyond belief. It's not surprising that people worshipped him.

Just the fact that it's autobiographical and from a significant historical figure makes it interesting. You won't find anything better to read.

Anonymous No. 16264331

>>16264328
>One man changed the history of the world because he wanted to
Sounds familiar. Remember this is on Elon's reading list.
>murdered and enslaved millions of French while doing
I believe in you, Elon.

Anonymous No. 16264334

>>16264302
It means Starlink still can send signal to unauthorized country like Iran or North Korea.

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Anonymous No. 16264336

Mockup of Russian Start-1M rocket capable of launching 500kg payload to LEO. First launch planned for 2026

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Anonymous No. 16264338

>>16264249

Anonymous No. 16264344

>>16264331
he has spiritually mogged millions of French by embarrassing Arianespace

Anonymous No. 16264348

>>16264336
Any particularly good reason an orbital launch vehicle needs to be launched from a mobile platform? This feels like an icbm with plausible deniability.

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Anonymous No. 16264351

Russian space station time table was signed by head of Roscosmos:
2027 first science-energy module launched
2027-2030 additional 4 modules launched to form station's core
2031-2033 launch of 2 additional modules

Soyuz-5 joined project of Russia and Kazakhstan first launch planned 3rd quarter 2025. New signed contract between Kazakhstan and Russia include at least 2 launches every year from 2028 to 2039

Amur-spg reusable rocket development continues. New engine created for this rocket tests will start in October this year

Work on super heavy rocket frozen in 2018 will continue based on data gathered from Soyuz-5 launches

Anonymous No. 16264353

>>16264348
I can't really think of anything, if it's not an icbm then it's gotta be something related to the military.

Anonymous No. 16264357

>>16264351
>soyuz 5 flying in a year
I'll believe it when I see it

Anonymous No. 16264371

>>16264357
You can say that for everything in this "time table"

Anonymous No. 16264373

>>16264371
Well sure but all that other stuff requires soyuz 5

Anonymous No. 16264378

About Soyuz-5 in a recent interview

>Currently, the components of the first flight launch vehicle are being manufactured. The first stage engine has already been manufactured and delivered to us, part of the sets of on-board equipment, tanks and rocket compartments are being manufactured. Most of the elements for the assembly and welding of tanks have been manufactured.
>We plan to deliver the rocket to the cosmodrome in the third quarter of next year. The first launch of the launch vehicle is scheduled for the end of 2025. We hope that by this time the ground infrastructure will be ready.

Anonymous No. 16264380

>>16264334
Except there really are a few ways that it can try. First of all, it has to know where it is in orbit, so it can know when it's getting near "bad" places, and have a good idea when to stop forwarding data. And then it has to relay data, so in a part of the world where there are no ground stations, there's nowhere to get internets from unless you have the frickin' lasers set up.

Anonymous No. 16264381

>>16264378
What kind of engine does soyuz 5 use?

Anonymous No. 16264388

>>16264381
RD-171MV
Basically the RD-170 without as much gimbal and more thrust.

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Anonymous No. 16264393

https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1808146819727204735

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Anonymous No. 16264394

>>16264393
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1808157976911364355

Anonymous No. 16264396

>>16264394
Wrong, it's aliens

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Anonymous No. 16264398

Fuel: oxygen-kerosene

Anonymous No. 16264405

>>16264302
It means the radiation pattern of a beamformed phase array does not have holes in it and it is not very high gain. If you want to deny coverage to an area crossed by the wave then you have to design an effective phase-shift key because otherwise physics says your broadcast is going everywhere and there is nothing you can do about it. This is something the ITU knows, which is why they work to deconflict frequencies rather than coverage areas.

Anonymous No. 16264416

>>16264348
All the major players are running through the cold war first strike/second strike playbook but for space instead of nukes. There's a space arms race but they aren't going to admit it.

Anonymous No. 16264421

>>16264398
>named after glusko
In what way?

Anonymous No. 16264434

>>16264348
Generally you want to build a rocket inside, but to launch, the rocket must be outside. There are a few ways around this:
The building can open or otherwise move. This has its own problems but has been done.

Alternatively the rocket can be transported to the launch site and lifted onto a stationary launch platform. This requires cranes that either have to survive launch or leave the area prior to launch.

The mobile launcher is a 3rd option, that makes different compromises. It essentially moves the loading onto the launch platform into your assembly building. You end up leaving different equipment at the launch site, and depending on how you design your mobile launch platform, it could be moved by a separate system that then departs before launch or under its own power and has to ride out launch.

Each option has pros and cons. And each has its own analog in the missile world.

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Anonymous No. 16264443

>>16264421
In its name

Anonymous No. 16264444

total bird death
>>>/gif/27471428

Anonymous No. 16264454

>>16264348
>>16264353
Kind of a stretch but you could integrate it in a clean and climate controlled hangar and then drive it out arbitrarily close to the equator. Sealaunch thought the benefit outweighs the trouble of towing the fat bitch to sea. I imagine driving on public roads to be quite cheaper and faster.

Anonymous No. 16264458

>>16264421
that's literally the name
"Scientific Production Association Energomash named after V. P. Glushko"
the whole thing is the actual name

Russian institutions get off on having long names
the longer the names, the smarter the people working there

Anonymous No. 16264459

>>16264416
please explain your analogy
what is the first strike?
what is the second strike?
how does the first strike prevent the second strike?
if your answer to all three is "space" I kill you

Anonymous No. 16264460

There's no way to sugar coat this. A category 5 hurricane is going to directly strike Starbase soon.

Anonymous No. 16264462

>>16264444
what a retard lmaooo

Anonymous No. 16264463

>>16264460
nothing ever happens

Anonymous No. 16264468

>>16264459
First strike: ASAT
Second strike: Rapid response satellite replenishment (either on orbit spares or easily launchable replacements) and more ASAT

Russia and the US also appear to be going for mission kill (lasers, paint, EMP) and China is going for disruption (ground station compromise / satellite compromise). I seem to recall a very odd Chinese Army graphic indicating one second-strike response is actually to launch cheap suborbital sats for temporary battlefield use.

Anonymous No. 16264472

>>16264444
California Condors are well known to be among the most retarded birds. Literally went extinct in the wild in 1987. They were reintroduced in the Grand Canyon and Mexico, and their population has been gradually climbing. Still critically endangered, current population 561 (up from 27 in 1987, before conservation efforts)

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Anonymous No. 16264499

>>16264249
>Every company needs a mascot. What is SpaceX’s?

Anonymous No. 16264520

>>16264348
astra didn't launch from a truck but they basically sold the pentagon on how they could launch from anywhere on three days' notice. being able to launch from places where you can evade detection is useful for a lot of things besides ICBMs.

Anonymous No. 16264555

>>16264398
>>16264443
>>16264458
This has "Repeat the line." energy

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Anonymous No. 16264563

>>16264557
Is that what he does after every transporter mission?

Anonymous No. 16264564

>>16264563
On those occasions he feasts on faeces.

Anonymous No. 16264568

>nearly half of all humans will develop myopia in their lifetime because they stay inside too much
people in space colonies are going to go fucking blind. we're going to need less pods and more large open areas.

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Anonymous No. 16264569

It's over

Anonymous No. 16264570

>>16264569
Been Cat 5 since last evening

Anonymous No. 16264571

>>16264393
>martian imperial dreadnought uses its gravity lance to vaporize an e*rther warship, colorized 2250

Anonymous No. 16264575

>>16264569
Hopefully it dumps so much freshwater

Anonymous No. 16264578

>>16264569
This is why we need to remove the atmosphere.

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Anonymous No. 16264590

>>16264569
we're talking cat 6 levels here
https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/07/yes-you-should-be-a-little-freaked-out-about-hurricane-beryl/

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Anonymous No. 16264593

https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1808195520793661628

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Anonymous No. 16264597

>>16264568
Make Andalite dome-ships that carry a whole forest across the stars.

Anonymous No. 16264598

>>16264590
the comments are awful even for ars, avoid

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>>16264569
It just became a Cat 4 again after you posted that.

Anonymous No. 16264602

>>16264590
shoulda never banned sulfur dioxide emmissions

Anonymous No. 16264609

>>16264606
>>16264606
>>16264606
Stage

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>>16264590

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Staging
>>16264607
>>16264607
>>16264607
>>16264607

Anonymous No. 16264634

>>16264348
because it is a "swords-to-plowshares" launch system. START rockets are based on the Topol mobile ICBMs, going back decades.

Anonymous No. 16264643

>>16264598
about to read them now, anything I should be aware of?

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Anonymous No. 16264660

>>16264597
Macross colony ships would be better.

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>>16264564