🧵 /sfg/ Space flight Generl
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:03:19 UTC No. 16264606
Kino edition
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Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:09:16 UTC No. 16264619
elon is going to die of old age before we land on mars if they dont hurry up
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:12:22 UTC No. 16264626
>>16264612
Starship is female, therefore the flaps are female.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:13:18 UTC No. 16264628
>>16264620
Yes and I’m going to seethe especially it Bozos throws out a “welcome to the club” tweet once Musk gets a demo Starship there
I HOPE ESCAPADE BLOWS UP AAAAAH IM COPING SO HARD
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:15:18 UTC No. 16264632
>>16264620
Blue origin cant even get to LEO.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:15:23 UTC No. 16264633
>>16264628
Is Starship even going to make it this window? We're waiting until 2026 now aren't we?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:16:24 UTC No. 16264636
>>16264632
They have a Mars mission planned for three months from now
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:17:27 UTC No. 16264638
>>16264636
With what rocket?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:18:36 UTC No. 16264641
>>16264638
New Glenn. I don't think they're even planning on test firing. Just sending it
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:20:54 UTC No. 16264644
>>16264624
wiggle wiggle wiggle
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:21:03 UTC No. 16264645
>>16264620
All those promises Musk made, and where did they bring you? Back to me.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:21:09 UTC No. 16264646
>>16264626
Seeing this live I almost fucking cried. Unironically hopped like a faggot (it was the highlight of my week).
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:21:48 UTC No. 16264650
>>16264633
It may make it to LEO this window.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:23:06 UTC No. 16264652
>>16264620
spacex can go to mars any time they want, but they're waiting for starship
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:24:16 UTC No. 16264653
>>16264620
Does spaceX flinging a tesla roadster around mars count?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:25:42 UTC No. 16264654
>>16264620
This doesn't make any sense, why not use a falcon hea-
>The spacecraft is being built by Rocket Lab
kek
lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:27:18 UTC No. 16264656
>>16264654
They were going to launch as rideshares on a Falcon Heavy but Psyche got delayed
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:29:00 UTC No. 16264658
>>16264653
>a tesla roadster around mars count?
No, its in a heliocentric orbit, not a Martian one
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:31:11 UTC No. 16264661
>>16264658
But it's going to crash on mars in a couple of thousand years!!
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:31:34 UTC No. 16264662
>>16264628
kek
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:35:19 UTC No. 16264668
>>16264663
He named his kid "Geometry"!
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:35:37 UTC No. 16264669
>>16264626
no, the flaps are shotas
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:35:47 UTC No. 16264670
>>16264620
They will miss the window, and it won't be close
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:36:20 UTC No. 16264672
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:36:55 UTC No. 16264673
>>16264636
>three months from now
and they are still farting around with mockups >>16264624
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:37:21 UTC No. 16264674
>>16264661
It will be intercepted and brought to Mars as a joke/publicity stunt much sooner than that
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:37:26 UTC No. 16264675
>>16264668
>adopting kids
figures he's a cuck
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:38:15 UTC No. 16264677
>>16264668
So he'll go through life being called "Geo", I presume. There are worse 21st century baby names, to be sure.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:38:38 UTC No. 16264678
>>16264626
I kissed my girlfriend (male) and clapped when I saw it
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:39:10 UTC No. 16264679
>>16264620
It will both explode on the pad and deliver the spacecraft to the wrong orbit
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:39:16 UTC No. 16264680
>>16264674
It will be displayed in the von braun museum on olympus mons.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:39:38 UTC No. 16264681
>>16264668
wow his wife is lowkey hot
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:40:41 UTC No. 16264683
>>16264675
unfortunately for him there's no way to get a girl pregnant by eating doo doo
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:43:38 UTC No. 16264686
>>16264683
>by eating doo doo
is there something behind this statement?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:45:26 UTC No. 16264690
>>16264686
Literally just this guy who's been saying this shit for years on here
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:45:30 UTC No. 16264691
>>16264681
She's a chud too apparently. Happy the kids are white at least
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:56:25 UTC No. 16264702
>>16264683
Arthur Issaac eats shit?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:02:09 UTC No. 16264712
>>16264706
It's absurd to throw their lives away for Boeing's sake. Dragon has the extra seat capacity, and they need to bring them home in proven safe vehicle.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:04:38 UTC No. 16264716
>>16264715
absolutely phantasmagorical
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:09:10 UTC No. 16264730
Travel tips to Starbase? Planning for IFT-5
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:12:20 UTC No. 16264742
>>16264730
How? We don't even have a date
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:17:00 UTC No. 16264758
>>16264730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPa
these might be somewhat outdated now, but basically there are no toilets or other amenities there and it takes 20 minutes to drive back to the nearest gas station, you have to go through a border guard check and there are semi-frequent road closures, if you drive like a retard on to the beach you might get stuck
these are from a year ago so they probably say you can go look at the rocket garden, can't do that anymore as the road has been subsumed into starbase now
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:17:25 UTC No. 16264760
>>16264742
The plan is in the earliest preliminary phase, more of a whim at this point
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:18:53 UTC No. 16264768
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:20:21 UTC No. 16264774
>>16264758
>but basically there are no toilets or other amenities there and it takes 20 minutes to drive back to the nearest gas station
Just piss on the fence
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:39:52 UTC No. 16264806
Sadly the storm is predicted to weaken significantly
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:41:31 UTC No. 16264809
>>16264806
nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:42:42 UTC No. 16264811
>>16264806
Bezos bros...
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 19:54:25 UTC No. 16264832
>>16264806
yucatan spaceport when?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:01:26 UTC No. 16264839
>>16264832
You'll need to go back in time almost 200 years and make the Americans annex all of Mexico.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:04:00 UTC No. 16264844
>>16264839
all? just a port, some remote coastline, and a road connecting them
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:11:56 UTC No. 16264854
>>16264612
hii
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:13:21 UTC No. 16264856
>>16264620
NASA's probe will, as far as a Blue spacecraft it depends on a) when SpaceX does a demo landing (in 3 years in Elon time) and b) whether SpaceX or Blue are awarded the MSR replacement.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:13:42 UTC No. 16264859
>>16264854
heyyyyy :3
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:18:36 UTC No. 16264875
>>16264856
Blue isn’t getting MSR I’ll tell you that right now.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:21:47 UTC No. 16264880
Hey guys, so OFT-5 still scheduled for August 15?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:23:53 UTC No. 16264886
>>16264880
July 16
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:51:02 UTC No. 16264918
>>16264886
August 15
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:51:11 UTC No. 16264920
>>16264914
69 million is a pretty good deal for a falcon 9, no? nasa doesn't usually pay the sticker price
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:52:37 UTC No. 16264921
>>16264920
price dumping
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:04:20 UTC No. 16264937
>>16264612
I KNEEL
I SQUEAL
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:07:46 UTC No. 16264943
>born too early to enjoy legal cunny and the birth of space flight
>born too late to enjoy the death of kikes, the resurgence of cunny, and the golden era of space flight
>born just in time for a life of suffering in the dark times of western civilisation, as we piss about sending women and dei to the iss
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:17:29 UTC No. 16264961
Daily reminder that Skylon will never happen. RE's press page is full of Hydrogen cell planes and the UK govt. review on SABRE development shows how far behind schedule they are.
>https://www.gov.uk/government/publ
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:23:18 UTC No. 16264970
>>16264961
Who are you trying to persuade? I think every anon on /sfg/ knows it and VASIMR are stupid/not going to work
I’d throw QI in there but I think there are still a few people who are still clinging on. That’s about all I have to say about that though
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:24:52 UTC No. 16264975
>>16264970
QI doubters need to put their name on a list so when McCulloch is proven right we can blacklist you fags from the stars
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:36:16 UTC No. 16264992
>>16264975
at this point QI is nothing more than one crackpots theory
maybe get some experimental data in orbit and people would start to pay attention
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:42:05 UTC No. 16265002
>>16264706
>if it's boing, you're not going (home)
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:47:01 UTC No. 16265005
>>16264999
>GFS
Don't give a fuck. It's Euro or nothin.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:50:23 UTC No. 16265010
>>16264920
Does this mean it's the lowest $/kg NASA has ever launched?
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 21:50:30 UTC No. 16265011
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:06:30 UTC No. 16265031
>>16265010
Black Brants are cheaper
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:17:08 UTC No. 16265045
>>16264914
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1808260
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/n
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:17:24 UTC No. 16265046
>>16265011
I love how we have /pol/ bots in here that reply to online political shit talk buzzwords like "squeal" automatically, it's a really cool feature.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:23:39 UTC No. 16265050
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:24:10 UTC No. 16265051
>>16265031
if only they went to orbit
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:24:40 UTC No. 16265052
>>16265011
back to /pol/
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:26:08 UTC No. 16265058
>>16264669
>you will never be held down and raped by starship's flaps
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:26:52 UTC No. 16265060
How do you ground the ISS’s circuitry?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:29:53 UTC No. 16265065
>>16265060
they have a bucket of soil with a metal rod sticking in it that they connect to
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:30:47 UTC No. 16265066
>>16265060
You don't; everything in orbit is floating.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:30:58 UTC No. 16265067
>>16265060
thats the neat part
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:31:06 UTC No. 16265068
>>16265060
>>16265065
the funny part is the bucket cost taxpayers $328 million when you can achieve the same effect with a home depot bucket (which is what spacex uses for grounding dragon capsules)
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:41:24 UTC No. 16265075
>>16265068
If the dirt isn't from the shore of a specific Alabama river then it won't work right
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:44:19 UTC No. 16265078
https://spacenews.com/save-freedom-
>We need to keep the ISS in orbit sucking away billions in perpetuity because.. because we just should, ok!!
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:47:22 UTC No. 16265081
>>16265066
So?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:54:38 UTC No. 16265085
>>16265081
Floating is a real term, anon.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 22:58:14 UTC No. 16265090
>>16264715
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:00:25 UTC No. 16265092
>>16265068
Orion is reusing shuttle orbiter Atlantis’ grounding bucket
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:02:48 UTC No. 16265094
>>16265085
Ah I see. You can understand my confusion hopefully. I pictured physically floating wires behind the panels on ISS.
Can you explain what “ground” means in this case? Is it just a reference point?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:03:33 UTC No. 16265097
>>16264839
>double the size of Califonia
please, no
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:07:30 UTC No. 16265103
https://x.com/katlinegrey/status/18
Roscosmos signed degree to build/launch Russian Space Station in 2028. Guess it looks like ISS is the end of international cooperation
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:08:15 UTC No. 16265105
>>16264680
von Braun city will be on the Moon, anon
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:11:14 UTC No. 16265112
>>16265103
Multiple countries are coordinating together to make Artemis + Gateway a success.
Russia, China and others are coordinating together to make a research outpost on the Moon.
The end of international cooperation? Want to delete your post and try again?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:11:53 UTC No. 16265115
remember when musk said it wll be a month til next launch... last month?
when will you idiots learn?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:12:47 UTC No. 16265116
>>16265115
Never. Where do you think you are?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:14:25 UTC No. 16265120
>>16265115
Pending discussions.
Which he later updated the timeline by saying end of july.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:14:57 UTC No. 16265121
>>16265115
August 15
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:15:35 UTC No. 16265122
https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/
>Firefly has decided to stand down on today’s Alpha FLTA005 launch to give the team more time to evaluate data and test systems from the first attempt. We will work closely with the range and our NASA customer to determine the next launch window. Stay tuned for more.
And Firefly decided they it was a good idea to acquire three more launch sites because...?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:17:42 UTC No. 16265128
>>16265122
How forthcoming are they when they find issues?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:21:00 UTC No. 16265133
For those interested, the roster poll for /sci/'s 4cc team is up >>16264933
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:42:20 UTC No. 16265165
>>16265128
Probably not very. If this turns into a long delay most people are going to go back to having forgotten that they exist, so there's no real need for them to say anything
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:07:15 UTC No. 16265177
>>16265115
Elon said it. I believe it. That settles it.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:08:04 UTC No. 16265180
>>16265133
We arent interested this isnt /sci/ this is /sfg/. Entirely separate, do not ever come back you scum fuck
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:12:54 UTC No. 16265183
>>16265103
Another W for space race accelerationists
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:16:04 UTC No. 16265184
>>16265103
russia should abandon this stupid notion and assemble a large modular manned deep space ship instead. soviet trek.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:16:34 UTC No. 16265185
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:17:35 UTC No. 16265187
>>16265133
Not spaceflight
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:19:37 UTC No. 16265188
>>16265105
That doesn't seem right. Mars was always Von Braun's objective
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:21:22 UTC No. 16265189
>>16265094
yeah
the ISS can easily become charged, and thus not be "ground" anymore so the whole thing's just floating
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:23:46 UTC No. 16265190
>>16265188
yeah but von Braun only ever got to the moon
call the main street Nixon Rd or something to really drive the point home
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:43:44 UTC No. 16265203
wtf is happening with ksp
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:45:15 UTC No. 16265205
>>16265060
They "ground" things in space by connecting them to the metal body of the spacecraft. Kind of like how a car's electronics are "grounded" to the car frame.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:47:35 UTC No. 16265206
>>16265203
what do you mean?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:48:16 UTC No. 16265207
>>16265112
International cooperation means Russia and America
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:52:30 UTC No. 16265213
>>16265207
bingo
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:53:38 UTC No. 16265214
>>16265211
Bros... I think hes going to take an entire major moon for his own there.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:55:09 UTC No. 16265217
spacex in elon's time: we're going to colonize mars
spacex in his son's time: we're going to colonize the gas giants
spacex in his grandson's time: we're going to clease the earth
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:56:12 UTC No. 16265220
>>16265211
>Uranus is a stretch goal
I always find it hilarious when the best living argument for great man theory exhibits the sense of humor of a 13yo redditor
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 00:58:56 UTC No. 16265221
>>16265217
We can pull that timeframe way forwrd
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 01:21:22 UTC No. 16265241
>>16265211
yes
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 01:48:42 UTC No. 16265262
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status
>This quote’s unverifiable, but is supposed to come from a Space Pioneer staff:
>I told the boss at the beginning, it's not good or bad, the steel cable is not firmly fixed! You have to use more steel cables to fix it! But the boss didn't listen to the advice, saying where would he go to buy steel cables? Go to the city for a run and you will be shipped back tomorrow. It will be July 1st tomorrow. You can't delay it until July. You have to ignite the test today. Time is running out!
>The result was good. The thrust of the 9 engines igniting at the same time was too great. After all, the test bench did not fix the rocket and flew up! Fortunately in misfortune, the experimental team members were fine and a little frightened. When the rocket fell, it landed on a barren mountain in no man's land! No one was injured!
>The lesson is profound. Next time, it is estimated that the test flight will be moved to no man's land in the Northwest desert. The first flight of Tianlong 3 is estimated to be postponed for half a year!Thank you all for your understanding, concern and support. Put it away.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 01:51:17 UTC No. 16265267
>>16265262
see, the Chinese don't know how to do either good old smekalka like the Russians or to do it properly like the Americans
a Russian would have just fired it at half throttle and pretended it was a good static fire, while an American would have postponed the test
instead, the Chinese fucked it up and embarrassed the entire Chinese nation
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 01:55:41 UTC No. 16265270
>>16265262
>This quote’s unverifiable, but is supposed to come from a Space Pioneer staff
It was revealed to me in a dream
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 01:57:11 UTC No. 16265273
>>16265211
sure, voyager 2 already achieved it. I don't really see musk doing it though. maybe a nasa or esa probe on one of his rockets.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:06:15 UTC No. 16265281
>>16265103
...with blackjack AND hookers!
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:06:28 UTC No. 16265282
>>16265270
it confirms my racial biases so it's good
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:08:12 UTC No. 16265284
>>16265262
This is disgraceful to their entire nation
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:11:33 UTC No. 16265286
If you go to the wikipedia page for the United States and change the language to Russian & scroll down it claims a CCCP flag flew on Apollo 11. At least I tried to translate the caption and I found an image on wikipedia labeled as such.
Never heard of this before though
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:13:44 UTC No. 16265287
>>16265270
The English translation is shit, but the original Chinese is fine. At the very least it came from a Chinese person.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:30:08 UTC No. 16265303
>>16265286
I've never heard of that
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:33:51 UTC No. 16265310
>>16265262
6 months delay and it should still be the first Chinese company to launch a Falcon 9 clone. Really taking "Move fast and break things" to heart
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:41:35 UTC No. 16265315
>>16265286
>>16265303
I see it on the Neal Armstrong page here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9
HACA really dunked on them by bringing their own flag to the moon first
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:41:38 UTC No. 16265316
>>16265303
any clue where that display is?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:42:49 UTC No. 16265317
>>16265316
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memor
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:46:23 UTC No. 16265320
>>16265303
>This flag of your nation was carried to the Moon and back by Apollo 11
This feels so patronizing, like such a backhanded compliment.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:46:26 UTC No. 16265321
>ift5 is NET 6 weeks away
these timelines are so slow
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:01:31 UTC No. 16265330
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1808
>When the acceptable margin for satellite deployment is measured in kilometers but your GNC team delivers it within single digit meters. This is why small sats choose Electron.
Big ULA energy
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:12:22 UTC No. 16265334
>>16265330
Yeah that's some ULA cope graph tier stuff. Rocketlab donzo.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:20:29 UTC No. 16265340
>>16265330
Hey they gotta get a few more paychecks in the bank before the rest of the rocket industry closes up shop.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:20:41 UTC No. 16265342
>>16265330
congrats to rocketlab. they must be getting so much business that they're having no issues at all paying for neutron's development.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:34:23 UTC No. 16265354
A few spaceflight predictions on metaculus right now https://www.metaculus.com/questions
>Which manufacturer's vehicle will return astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore to Earth from the ISS?
Boeing 74%, SpaceX 20%
>Will SpaceX attempt to catch a Starship booster with the tower in 2024?
85%
>When will SpaceX first successfully catch a Starship booster with the tower?
Median date of March 1, 2025
>Will SpaceX land anything on Mars before 2030?
25%
>When will successful sample return missions occur for the following destinations?
Mars median date of July 17, 2033
>Will the New Glenn launch vehicle reach an altitude of 100 kilometers in 2024?
33%
>When will Artemis 2 successfully complete its mission?
Median date of May 30, 2026
>When will NASA next land astronauts on the Moon?
Median date of March 10, 2029
>Will China land the next person on the Moon?
25%
>When will a free flying commercial space station become operational?
Jan 31, 2031
>Will a non-test ASAT weapon be used against a satellite before 2030?
30%
>When will a living human first reach a distance of one light year from Earth?
Median date of October 3, 2295
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:36:03 UTC No. 16265356
>>16265303
>this is the only soviet flag that will ever get to the moon (and back)
What a mad lad
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:38:29 UTC No. 16265359
>>16265320
>"Hey bro, I heard you were having trouble in the bedroom department. Can't get it up (to orbit), huh? Don't worry. I fucked your wife for you."
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:41:04 UTC No. 16265361
>>16265354
If the astronauts get immolated or stranded, tumbling in a decaying orbit does betting boing still pay?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:43:38 UTC No. 16265365
>>16265363
>it slowly drags up the texas coast, destroying everything in its wake before hovering over new orleans for a couple of days then shooting across the eastern US with F3-tornado levels of winds
starbase is just the beginning...
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:51:30 UTC No. 16265376
>>16265286
>>16265303
I expected this to be baffling Russoid cope and instead learned something new about Apollo 11.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:57:28 UTC No. 16265386
>>16265363
The storm will be fairly minor by the time it reaches either shore, no different than a conventional rainstorm
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:04:09 UTC No. 16265394
>>16265361
that's covered under "one or both remain in space beyond august 30" and currently sits at 4%
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:04:29 UTC No. 16265395
>>16265388
We're collecting levels of starliner data previously thought unattainable
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:05:31 UTC No. 16265397
THIS
*CLAP*
IS
*CLAP*
WHY
*CLAP*
WE
*CLAP*
CREWED
*CLAP*
FLIGHT
*CLAP*
TEST
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:06:47 UTC No. 16265398
>>16265356
We need to rename KSC to Nixon Space Center
sage at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:09:28 UTC No. 16265400
>>16265388
>1st flight completely fails to make the orbit
>2nd flight has thruster issues
>3rd flight has human beings on board
What the fuck? Why? SpaceX had like 20 successful flights of the uncrewed variant and then the crewed variant went flawlessly before they stuck people on it. I know these two will probably get home safe, but what the fuck is going on here
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:09:37 UTC No. 16265401
>>16265398
nixon needed to fight the political pressure to gut nasa harder if he wanted a legacy like that
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:18:43 UTC No. 16265413
>>16265400
man I keep forgetting to turn of the sage after replying to Terrance Howard threads
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:19:41 UTC No. 16265414
>>16265401
Is nixon to blame for the shuttle, I need a definitive yes or no
I really want to like nixon
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:25:38 UTC No. 16265417
so what's the minimum announcement window before return they'd do for starliner? I figured it would be at least a week but they're getting awfully sketch about it
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:27:53 UTC No. 16265420
>>16265417
I think it has to leave on the 7th at the latest I believe? So not looking great. Terrible timing too, the poor bastards are getting roasted either just before, on or just after independence day kek.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:29:15 UTC No. 16265422
>>16265414
ultimately no. george mueller was the guy who made the shuttle a life-or-death issue for nasa, and nixon's OMB probably saved nasa from making an even stupider shuttle by noticing how stupid the economic justifications for the dolphin sex shuttle were.
on the other hand, nixon was in a position to push for a much more ambitious space program than we ended up with. it would have been somewhat unpopular (although public opposition to apollo spending is a little overrated) and it would've meant picking fights with congress and the new york times editorial page, but he could've done it. he picked bigger fights on stuff like vietnam and won those, but space just wasn't a priority for him. agnew's space task group was set to recommend pushing for a manned mars landing in the 1980s (when agnew expected to be president) before nixon found out and put the whole thing on ice. i'd much rather have a spiro agnew space center than one named after nixon.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:36:17 UTC No. 16265432
>>16265420
>poor bastards
my gut feel right now is only the white guy will be made to return in the starliner. the diversity chick is going to be kept safe and sent back with a dragon
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:44:33 UTC No. 16265451
>>16265447
I can already tell half the replies now to that being brought up are EDStroons screaming about mars
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:50:34 UTC No. 16265456
>>16265414
you should hate Nixon but that's because you should hate all politicians
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:50:41 UTC No. 16265457
>>16265432
She can return any time
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:51:54 UTC No. 16265460
How far would one of these need to be boosted to get out of earths magnetosphere so greenpeace doesn't freak out? I am assuming you could put it on a suborbital trajectory somewhere around the arctic so it doesn't need too much delta V from the chemical boost stage.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:52:29 UTC No. 16265461
>>16265460
just put it on greenpeace headquarters
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:07:47 UTC No. 16265477
If the US and soviet programs were 100 percent in cooperation since 1945, would we be nuking the moon today to mine liquid methane or whatever? Was western europe ever even relavent
From what i understand the soviets had a good program they were just poor as fuck and couldnt compete
Also interesting to note that soviet return capsules had instructions on the outside printed in english as well as russian in case they landed in the continental us
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:11:24 UTC No. 16265483
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:13:07 UTC No. 16265485
>>16265460
reminder that the greenpeace crowd freaked out about galileo flying past earth for a gravity assist because they thought the danger of two RTGs containing a grand total of 35 pounds of plutonium entering the earth's atmosphere was too great
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:16:46 UTC No. 16265488
>>16265485
Look I don't think even the left takes their complaints too seriously anymore, but I am pretty sure any project involving them would have pretty major restrictions on how much fallout can be put into the atmosphere and I like my fantasies to be somewhat realistic
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:17:48 UTC No. 16265489
>>16265488
*them being orion drive spacecraft
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:21:03 UTC No. 16265490
>>16265488
if you're not kicking up dust clouds on the ground then you're not creating fallout. it's not that hard to loft something up to 250km and let it inject into orbit up there.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:27:01 UTC No. 16265502
>>16265490
You still get some fission products no matter the altitude, and if you launch too close to the equator you can starfish prime all the satellites. Thats why I am wondering how high the magnetosphere is around the poles, there you could have a much more manageable orion drive launch without having to loft the craft too high (250 km would certainly be a nice number if it was high enough!)
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:30:21 UTC No. 16265506
>>16265502
>Thats why I am wondering how high the magnetosphere is around the poles
now that you bring it up that might actually be why they were talking about launching from alaska in the dyson orion book
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:43:55 UTC No. 16265520
>>16265485
Flying nuclear material on a Falcon 9 is probably statistically safer than the fallout from depleted uranium in a plane crash
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:59:15 UTC No. 16265526
>>16265520
why is there depleted uranium in a plane crash
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 06:01:55 UTC No. 16265528
>>16265526
sometimes the balancing weights are made of it, this comparison is somewhat pointless since depleted uranium is minimally radioactive so its more like lead than a nuclear material
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 06:02:53 UTC No. 16265529
>>16265528
it's lead that very conveniently tells you where it is
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 06:19:43 UTC No. 16265546
>https://spacenews.com/nasa-assessm
>WHERE ARE MY LANDERS, ELON???? WHY ARE YOU HOLDING UP ARTEMIS??!?!
as predicted the other day, as soon as bad news hit boing nasa would drop a hit piece about HLS to distract the public
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 06:48:58 UTC No. 16265576
>>16265568
Bruh did it even have straps? That nigga started flying immediately
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 06:59:02 UTC No. 16265583
>>16265568
Can't China do anything original??
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:15:25 UTC No. 16265594
WHEN IS THE NEXT STARSHIP FLIGHT BROS
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:18:21 UTC No. 16265595
>>16264626
are individual parts of a female human... female?
is a tit female?
is her ear female?
interesting question.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:20:57 UTC No. 16265599
>>16265594
Early August
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:21:00 UTC No. 16265600
>>16265594
2 more weeks
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:24:17 UTC No. 16265602
>>16265594
Approximately 14 days
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:26:22 UTC No. 16265607
>>16265595
Your gf's dick is male
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:42:31 UTC No. 16265620
>>16265546
>She noted, though, that the HLS effort faces “a lot of technical challenges.” The next major milestone, she said, was an in-space cryogenic propellant transfer test, which she said was planned for early 2025.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 07:52:00 UTC No. 16265622
>>16265546
>All lies! i heard the rumors that there is a huge progress in the secret undergound batman caves where SpaceX is testing dozens of their Starship variants, and we just don't see it because we are not worthy, and because SpaceX doesn't owe us to show anything! And you know what - its actually the spacesuits that are holding the lunar landing from happening. The Starships are ready, there are going to be 9 test flights THIS YEAR ALONE! Deep underground they test them in secret, there are like underground bases the size of Mamoth cave where Starship variants are being tested, rotated, baked in thermal cameras to test the solar radiation, tested in the collosal vacuum chambers and we don't see it because its a secret of the company, we see just 0.0001% of the testing, like the top of the Iceberg of the incredible progress happening with Starship in complete secrecy in the secret ungerground testing facilities! Its just so secretive, because its private company and its their proprietary technology, and they don't owe us cattle anything, they will just roll out the ready Starship HLS out of the cave one day in 2026 and you will all see it! Just one day is empty pad, next day is Starship HLS standing there along with Depot and Tanker - all erect and ready like Musk's manhood before he makes his 40th child ! You will see it! Here is artistic impression of how it looks like, i saw it in my dreams!
EDS mental illness comment lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:12:35 UTC No. 16265642
>>16265546
The suits, orion, mlt2, sls are all nowhere near ready
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:25:56 UTC No. 16265652
https://x.com/J1NFENG/status/180836
So it was using clamps. Ropebros vindicated
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:28:17 UTC No. 16265654
>>16265642
Speaking of ML2, where the fuck is it
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:33:18 UTC No. 16265659
>>16265620
NASA was going to have to delay Artemis regardless. Lunar Gateway isn't ready and neither is Orion. Also what this anon says, too >>16265642
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:33:54 UTC No. 16265660
>>16265654
what happens to the first one?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:34:40 UTC No. 16265663
>>16265654
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bech
It's still a bare set of prefabbed steel beams hooked together and set on top of the crawler that will be moving it around. Interesting note about how it is built of "special steel" which leads me to believe they are still trying to find ways to mitigate the SRB exhaust corroding the tower. Fuck SRBs, all my homies love liquid boosters
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:36:07 UTC No. 16265666
>>16265211
yes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ura
but i wonder if they would use a starship, it would only make sense if they want a bigger orbiter and probe but i assume that could cost too much money and time for nasa.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:38:03 UTC No. 16265671
>>16265660
Once ML2 is ready ML1 gets taken apart and completely rebuilt for the Block 1B/2 SLS
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:38:03 UTC No. 16265672
>>16264854
*BANG BANG*
>CAM ON SPES SEX
*BANG BANG*
>SCOR SOM FACKIN GOALS
*BANG BANG*
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:44:50 UTC No. 16265682
>>16265330
This is actually more important than you think to satellite operators, especially if you're doing earth observation because your orbital velocity determines how long you can look at a point on the surface
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:15:18 UTC No. 16265707
>Pete Conrad priced a new DC-X at $50 million, cheap by NASA standards, but NASA decided not to rebuild the craft in light of budget constraints. Instead, NASA focused development on the Lockheed Martin VentureStar which it felt answered some criticisms of the DC-X, specifically the airplane-like landing of the VentureStar, which many NASA engineers preferred over the vertical landing of the DC-X. Just a few years later, the repeated failure of the Venturestar project, especially the composite LH2 (liquid hydrogen) tank, led to program cancellation.
Why was the spaceplane cult so powerful?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:43:13 UTC No. 16265724
another slow week at starbase
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:02:56 UTC No. 16265741
>>16265707
Because it was the only part of NASA spaceflight where the best engineering minds weren't former Nazis.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:03:51 UTC No. 16265742
https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1
>>16265724
going to start stacking the tower soon
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:17:13 UTC No. 16265757
>>16265747
What was their excuse for not liking this? Disruption or was it something else?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:21:20 UTC No. 16265766
>>16265742
>>16265744
>>16265745
wow man, crazy. that's insane.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:22:35 UTC No. 16265768
>>16265747
Tory Bruno is also a massive snake in the grass, nobody can be trusted these days.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:26:45 UTC No. 16265771
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:29:42 UTC No. 16265772
>>16265766
yeah
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:31:40 UTC No. 16265773
>>16265386
“conventional” rainstorms for Texas have recently just been giant derechos and supercells lol
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:32:55 UTC No. 16265775
>>16265438
So what's a 9m mirror in orbit supposed to do?
They certainly can't install it in Hubble, not that it's even necessary.
I guess it'd just be another thing for astroonomers to complain about flashing their telescopes.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:35:27 UTC No. 16265777
>>16265477
>a rocket named Rocket
kbro
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:41:25 UTC No. 16265779
If SpaceX takes over SLC-37, Blue, who are right next door to it, have to pack up their toys and fuck off every time there's a launch or a starship catch attempt. At worst they'd lose access to their own launch pad and production site one third of the year.
As for why did BO decide to build production infrastructure critical to their day to day operation right next to an active launchpad...
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:42:02 UTC No. 16265781
>>16265775
>I guess it'd just be another thing for astroonomers to complain about flashing their telescopes.
that is the entire point man
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:44:39 UTC No. 16265782
>>16265773
The real problem is when they stop moving.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:45:55 UTC No. 16265783
>>16265502
>>16265506
Launching from the magnetic poles is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
>In theory, it is possible for a magnetic sail to launch directly from the surface of a planet near one of its magnetic poles, repelling itself from the planet's magnetic field. However, this requires the magnetic sail to be maintained in an "unstable" orientation. Furthermore, the magnetic sail must have extraordinarily strong magnetic fields for a launch from Earth, requiring superconductors supporting 80 times the current density of the best known high-temperature superconductors as of 1991
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:46:09 UTC No. 16265784
>>16265757
> Both companies expressed particular concern on the effects such a high flight rate would have on other launch providers.
Also racist and -- ummmm -- sea turtles? Any of those around that need protecting?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:53:39 UTC No. 16265793
>>16265220
Compared to the sense of humor of a 13yo anon?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:56:06 UTC No. 16265797
>>16265400
I think both boeing and nasa wanted them to get started on their contract asap.
Boeing especially cause their space division is losing 1.5 billion a quarter right now.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:03:41 UTC No. 16265801
>>16265707
may you one day realize anon that the spaceflight cult is nothing but a heretical offshoot of the original spaceplane cult
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:07:02 UTC No. 16265805
>>16265793
Well you can't post teenage anon humor on twatter.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:13:59 UTC No. 16265809
>>16265568
high energy static fire
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:15:05 UTC No. 16265810
>>16265775
A 9m mirror with gyros and rcs such that is always angles from the sun directly to the nearest ground based telescope would actually be a pretty cheap and easy satellite to build.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:25:11 UTC No. 16265817
Would it lack dignity if it was shaped like a pickle and exclaimed “I’m Pickle Rick” each time it landed [math]\unicode{x1F914}[/math]
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:27:23 UTC No. 16265818
>>16265817
that's insane
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:41:01 UTC No. 16265820
>>16265818
yeah
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:45:19 UTC No. 16265824
>>16265568
>>16265576
lol
https://x.com/cnspaceflight/status/
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:50:55 UTC No. 16265830
>>16265824
>The ground system didn't fail!
>the mechanism connecting the rocket to the ground failed
Why
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:57:12 UTC No. 16265835
>>16265830
https://x.com/j1nfeng/status/180836
A little more information. People are saying this test stand was designed for TL2, a smaller rocket with less thrust. No modification work was done to the test stand prior to loading TL3 and firing, so the hook mechanism straight up failed as soon as the engines fired essentially
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:03:09 UTC No. 16265838
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:03:56 UTC No. 16265839
>>16265824
a minor setback
>>16265838
I
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:06:02 UTC No. 16265842
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:27:22 UTC No. 16265857
>>16265835
iterative test stand design
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:32:51 UTC No. 16265859
>>16265857
Lol this is why we test
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:34:29 UTC No. 16265861
>>16265857
kek
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:40:17 UTC No. 16265867
ni'r
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:43:37 UTC No. 16265872
>>16265869
Very skeptical of some of the stuff said on this chart.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:44:51 UTC No. 16265873
>>16265869
How do you even make it?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:46:15 UTC No. 16265876
>>16265869
love to work with compounds so well-understood that they have question marks in their comparison charts
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:46:19 UTC No. 16265877
>>16265869
You get even better results with fluorine
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:48:13 UTC No. 16265879
>>16265876
You'd hope that it's because it's ridiculously high and not because they couldn't be bothered to test it.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:49:45 UTC No. 16265880
>>16265869
Seconding >>16265873. I can't find information about it.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:51:00 UTC No. 16265883
>>16265879
Everything on the last column is because they couldn't be bothered to test it.
Even twice as dense LOX would be the holy grail of propellants, but go ahead and mass produce some first.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:52:16 UTC No. 16265886
>>16265869
Because O8 is easier to produce, for one thing
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:01:50 UTC No. 16265891
>>16265880
>>16265873
I'm not sure what the chart means when it says disuper oxide, it could either be Super-oxides or Tetraoxygen probably the latter, in which case there's very little literature on it given it lasts around a micro-second before the van der waals complex dissociates
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:08:12 UTC No. 16265898
>>16265880
>>16265891
you find the paper hosted on multiple websites if you type the filename into a search bar
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:09:34 UTC No. 16265900
>>16265898
I've already found it. I don't think it says how to make it.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:19:54 UTC No. 16265911
>>16265835
so it's another Ariane 5 moment, only in hardware instead of software, and without an actual payload lost
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:27:52 UTC No. 16265920
>>16265902
Why is stoke using kerolox instead of methalox?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:34:41 UTC No. 16265922
>>16265920
they aren't?
First stage is methalox, second stage is hydrolox
https://www.stokespace.com/rocket/
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:36:45 UTC No. 16265925
>>16265922
this is too thicc. i appreciate what they're trying to do but none of it matters if your rocket isn't correctly proportioned.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:38:36 UTC No. 16265927
>>16265925
They're doing what SpaceX does. Get a minimum viable block 1 and then scale into a longer block 2 using the same width.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:42:48 UTC No. 16265931
btw what the fuck is going on at Blue Origin? the stoke founders left BO just a few years ago and look what theyve done
the managment fucking sucks balls there
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:43:16 UTC No. 16265932
>>16265929
they've gotta keep the alien bodies stored somewhere
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:43:44 UTC No. 16265933
>>16265931
Blame the oldspace guy bezos stupidly put in charge of the place.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:45:45 UTC No. 16265935
>>16265933
didn't he come from honeywell? that seems less oldspace and more just generic ceo-who-looks-good-on-paper-because
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:47:45 UTC No. 16265936
>>16265935
Honeywell might not have a huge presence in space, but it's certainly old. They're just another MIC appropriation-whore.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:48:40 UTC No. 16265937
>>16265935
>>16265936
turns out i was wrong anyway and the honeywell guy got replaced by an ex-amazon guy last year
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:50:10 UTC No. 16265938
>>16265937
>ex-amazon
Great, so software-style management techniques applied to hardware. What could go wrong?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:50:54 UTC No. 16265939
>>16265938
Isn't that essentially what elon did?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:51:38 UTC No. 16265942
>>16265898
What a weird paper, it assumes that O4 is chemically bonded in the same way Ozone is to get the 217kj/mol figure, which it isn't and then goes onto suggest Rubidium as a key component of which we only make a few tons globally to make 300t of propellant at a cost of $10k/ton vs the $160/ton of LOX. A 30% increase in performance vs a 6000% increase in cost is not going to work.
Even the references don't give any sources on Tetraoxygen, it's all about Super-oxides.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:53:12 UTC No. 16265943
>>16265931
Yeah it’s a gay company with no long term goals or game plan
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:54:12 UTC No. 16265945
>>16265777
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokot
>Rokot (Russian: Poкoт meaning Rumble or Boom)
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:55:06 UTC No. 16265946
>>16265939
>run program for free
>fails
>debug
vs
>launch rocket for $100,000,000
>fails
>debug
I still can't believe this has proven to be a viable business strategy
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:55:38 UTC No. 16265947
Speaking of, would switching starship to ozone be worth it? Sure the extra isp isn't much but ozone is much denser than o2 and thus you'd need smaller tanks and less dry weight.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:55:38 UTC No. 16265948
>>16265835
actually new images are showing that it was the flanges on the rocket that ripped off, clamps worked fine! So the flanges were either under-engineered or using substandard bolts.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:57:00 UTC No. 16265949
>>16265946
>>launch rocket for $100,000,000
>>fails
>>debug
Thats exactly what spacex does, have you not been paying attention to starships development?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:58:06 UTC No. 16265951
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:58:23 UTC No. 16265952
>>16265949
Yeah man that's what I just said
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:05:44 UTC No. 16265958
>>16265211
>ur anus
Old joke
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:07:12 UTC No. 16265961
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:07:19 UTC No. 16265962
>>16265947
ozone is not stable so much more difficult and expensive to handle than oxygen
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:14:27 UTC No. 16265970
>>16265962
The stability issue is fixed by adding about a third normal oxygen. Thats why the isp benefit is so small.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:17:28 UTC No. 16265974
>>16265924
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18085
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:22:12 UTC No. 16265980
>>16265947
>p.102
> For it has its drawbacks. The least of these is that it’s at least as toxic as fluorine. (People who speak of the invigorating odor of ozone have never met a real concentration of it!) Much more important is the fact that it’s unstable— murderously so. At the slightest provocation and sometimes for no apparent reason, it may revert explosively to oxygen. And this reversion is catalyzed by water, chlorine, metal oxides, alkalis— and by, apparently, certain substances which have not been identified.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:25:03 UTC No. 16265982
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:33:02 UTC No. 16265991
>>16265982
>p.103
>The boiling point of oxygen is 90 K. (In working with cryogenics, it’s much simpler to think and talk in absolute of Kelvin degrees than in Celsius.) That of ozone is 161 K. On shutdown, the inside of the oxidizer lines would be wet with the ozone-oxygen mixture, which would immediately start to evaporate. The oxygen, with the lower boiling point, would naturally come off first, and the solution would become more concentrated in ozone. And when that concentration approaches 30 percent, at any temperature below 93 K, a strange thing happens. The mixture separates into two liquid phases, one containing 30 percent ozone, and the other containing 75 percent. And as more oxygen boils off, the 30- percent phase decreases, and the 75 percent phase increases, until you have only one solution again— all 75 percent ozone. And this mixture is really sensitive!
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:56:33 UTC No. 16266030
well, this is it. we should be proud of all the progress starship has made before HARP destroys it. if the towers make i think they will be great tourist attractions. the high bays will end up in a heap in the rio grande along with our hopes of reaching mars in this decade. it was a good run.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:04:06 UTC No. 16266038
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Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:10:33 UTC No. 16266045
>>16265103
Reminder that Russia begged China to put their Mir2.0 into an orbit where they could reach it and China cucked them.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:11:13 UTC No. 16266046
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:12:22 UTC No. 16266047
>>16266046
the heat shield seems pretty far along
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:13:23 UTC No. 16266049
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:15:08 UTC No. 16266051
>>16265334
"Missing" by 5m isn't ULA Rhetoric over Results tier. Hobbitlabs are allowed to be proud of that.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:15:20 UTC No. 16266052
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:18:42 UTC No. 16266056
Do you think IFT-4 will happen before the second tower is finished?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:19:46 UTC No. 16266059
>>16265942
It's just another meme.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:20:06 UTC No. 16266060
https://youtu.be/I4zto6KRnWQ
SFG related game
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:20:19 UTC No. 16266061
>>16266056
2nd tower will take at least 3 more months
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:20:32 UTC No. 16266062
>>16266056
no. beryl
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:21:39 UTC No. 16266064
>>16266056
yes and i've never been more certain of anything
cut my nuts off if it's not true
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:22:22 UTC No. 16266066
What is SpaceX currently doing to prepare for IFT-4?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:22:56 UTC No. 16266068
>>16266066
time traveling
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:24:10 UTC No. 16266069
>>16266066
replacing tiles and testing chopsticks
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:26:42 UTC No. 16266072
>>16266060
Is this just a prettier and shitier version of Children of a Dead Earth?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:28:36 UTC No. 16266075
>>16266056
Maybe, here's my artists impression of S29 during reentry
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:29:55 UTC No. 16266080
>>16266075sage
damn dude that looks mint, for some unexplainable reason i'm certain that's exactly how IFT-4 will look
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:37:45 UTC No. 16266090
>>16266030
What the fuck are you talking about
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:41:45 UTC No. 16266095
>>16265400
>I know these two will probably get home safe, but what the fuck is going on here
Boeing is such a massive company that the government is basically floating them to prevent a full collapse.
They were found guilty of committing fraud (again) and because this was the second time they were caught, the government is giving them a plea deal that forces them to pay a ~$260 million fine and hire some guy to make sure they don't do it again. That's it.
If SpaceX had done the same, Elon would be thrown in jail.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:43:32 UTC No. 16266099
>>16265671
Once ML2 is operational + the third and final Block 1 SLS has flown then ML1 will be mothballed.
It cannot be modified to support Block 1B SLS.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:44:33 UTC No. 16266100
>>16265931
If I had to guess, a lot of things: They're not quite as vertically integrated as SpaceX so any supplier fucking up (and there are not that many alternatives because of ITAR) means a delay. They reportedly don't do nearly as many hours as their competitors do (I expect the ex-Amazon guy is going to start working them like warehouse temp employees any time now). They've had to redesign things more than once after testing found issues, but their fabrication techniques can't keep up with the demand. And of course, turnover, and engineering is very sensitive to personnel issues.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:46:41 UTC No. 16266102
>>16265742
>>16265744
>going to start stacking the tower soon
Didn't you faggots say they were going to take like 6 months to build the OLM-2?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:48:26 UTC No. 16266104
>>16265979
Buying another penis compensation boat?
>>16266056
>>16266066
IFT-4 was last month, retard
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:48:30 UTC No. 16266105
>>16266102
OLIT is different from the OLM
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:50:27 UTC No. 16266108
>>16266105
Shhh dont tell the newfag those acronyms he barely knows what IFT means
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:51:40 UTC No. 16266109
>>16266090
if you'd pull your head out of starships ass for a half second you'd know that starbase will be hit by a hurricane in 3 days. not a tropical storm - a hurricane.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:52:13 UTC No. 16266111
lol there is a spacex fandom wiki
https://starship-spacex.fandom.com/
https://starship-spacex.fandom.com/
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:52:48 UTC No. 16266112
>>16266105
>OLIT is different from the OLM
God I hate so many shitty acronyms>>16266108
>he barely knows what IFT means
Insufferable Faggot Trannies
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:53:49 UTC No. 16266113
>>16266111
>spacex fandom wiki
I'm not an IFT
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:55:47 UTC No. 16266116
>>16266109
latest run has it over 100 miles south
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:00:10 UTC No. 16266122
>>16266116
yea well, the euro is being dumb. the consensus with the other models is it's going to either hit boca chica dead on or head north to houston. if the other models are saying it's heading to houston, and euro says its going to be 100 south in mexico then it's probably going to be somewhere in the middle. guess where that middle is, rocket man.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:00:45 UTC No. 16266123
>>16266113
Youre a newfag is what you are. A dirty subhuman newfag that needs to go back
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:00:54 UTC No. 16266124
nothing ever happens so its going to miss starbase
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:01:04 UTC No. 16266126
>>16266122
me and my dog both say it's going to be south, guess where the middle is now fagboy?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:02:04 UTC No. 16266128
>>16266122
They said euro was dumb when it showed Sandy making a left hook into New York harbor too.
Meteorology isn't a fucking democracy.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:06:49 UTC No. 16266132
>>16266128
meteorology is just guesswork
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:08:06 UTC No. 16266134
>>16266126
the middle is still boca chica. next time let your doggo do the talking, youre stupid.
>>16266128
please see picrel
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:10:25 UTC No. 16266138
>>16266134
Again - this isn't a democracy. Euro has the best track record and euro puts it south.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:13:26 UTC No. 16266142
>>16266138
i see you back here on friday to tell you i was right.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:15:46 UTC No. 16266145
>>16266138
Euro model exists in the context. What can be, unburdened by what has been.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:24:21 UTC No. 16266153
https://x.com/Harry__Stranger/statu
>With the help of 30cm satellite imagery I've mapped out the aftermath of the Tianlong-3 'launch' and subsequent explosion. Debris from the rocket appears to be scattered across the scorched terrain.
>Interactive map on @Soar_Earth
http://soar.earth/draw/1154
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:42:46 UTC No. 16266166
>>16266153
Cowboy rocketry is the only way to space
There WILL be explosions but you learn from them
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:49:17 UTC No. 16266174
>>16265929
Probably the sample return freezer labeled here.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:53:31 UTC No. 16266177
>>16266166
In this case the lesson learned was "you actually need to go out and buy some cables to hold the rocket down. A few chinesium clamps is not sufficient."
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:59:47 UTC No. 16266187
>>16266174
Youre retarded. Dont post here ever again you worthless muttoid mongrel
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:02:12 UTC No. 16266193
>>16266177
live and learn
Let the chinese cook, as the other anon said from a few days ago
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:02:38 UTC No. 16266195
>>16266192
>>16266187
Samefag
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:03:13 UTC No. 16266197
>>16266192
2011 called it wants its macro back
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:05:07 UTC No. 16266207
>>16266174
Thank you for the info. Also dont listen to this >>16266187 faggot anon you make quality posts
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:07:54 UTC No. 16266214
>>16266195
Wrong
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:16:29 UTC No. 16266230
>>16265103
How many T-72 launches will this take?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:19:39 UTC No. 16266241
>>16266192
This is hilarious!
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:21:44 UTC No. 16266242
>>16265214
None of uranus' moons are very interesting, but it would be nice to get more data on them.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:24:19 UTC No. 16266246
https://x.com/NASAArtemis/status/18
>One of our NASA Astronauts, Andre Douglas (@Astro_AndreD), has been selected as the backup crew member for the Artemis II mission around the Moon. Douglas will train alongside the rest of the crew and will fill in if needed.
Backup black's been announced.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:25:21 UTC No. 16266247
>>16266242
lies why does /sfg/ think space is “interesting” and of scientific value only if it makes for pretty photographs?? Newsflash pretty much every planet is a gray ball, more or less, but each solar system body is wildly different than all the others
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:27:25 UTC No. 16266252
>>16266246
They cloned Glover
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:29:07 UTC No. 16266253
>>16266246
remember when astronauts were chosen because they were the cream of the crop and not because of their skin color or sex organs?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:29:38 UTC No. 16266254
>>16266246
>>16266252
It is very important that if the black guy gets sick we have another black guy ready to take his place. Yes, it has to be a black guy don't be racist shut up stop asking questions.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:31:50 UTC No. 16266257
>>16266253
Astronauts were actually chosen based on their height.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:32:08 UTC No. 16266258
>>16266247
all those moons aren't exactly doing us much good unless they make for pretty photographs, now are they?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:33:25 UTC No. 16266260
>>16266253
>>16266254
You know literally nothing about him. The only reason you dont outwardly hate Glover is because /sfg/ was sensible enough to realize that he is a capable man regardless of his skin color and you just went along with it. Every astronaut is more than capable enough, just because he is black doesnt mean hes a bumbling moron they gave a ride to because of supposed diversity practices. He is likely 10x more accomplished than ANYONE who posts in this general and you cant see past his skin color to see his achievements. Pathetic /pol/tards need to go back.
>inb4 glover hate
And thats how you know theyre newfags.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:34:52 UTC No. 16266261
>>16266260
>You know literally nothing about him.
Don't hate him either, doesn't mean the picking of astronauts is fair or without bias.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:37:06 UTC No. 16266266
>>16266253
>Douglas is a Virginia native. He earned a bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering from the United States Coast Guard Academy, a master’s degree in mechanical engineering from the University of Michigan, a master’s degree in naval architecture and marine engineering from the University of Michigan, a master’s degree in electrical and computer engineering from Johns Hopkins University, and a doctorate in systems engineering from the George Washington University. Douglas served in the U.S. Coast Guard as a naval architect, salvage engineer, damage control assistant, and officer of the deck. He most recently was a senior staff member at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab, working on maritime robotics, planetary defense, and space exploration missions for NASA.
The man doesn't have Jonny Kim's resume but he seems solid. His twitter is just retweets of space shit without any signal boosting of the derangement you see out of official NASA feeds during the Wrong Months.
>>16266254
We also have a backup Canadian if something happens to Jeremy Hansen
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:37:24 UTC No. 16266267
>>16266261
Skin color plays absolutely zero role in choosing astronauts. This profession is as selective and merit based as it gets, you refusing to acknowledge that basic fact means you will NEVER go to space.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:44:23 UTC No. 16266277
>>16266134
hot off the press
IT’S OVER
https://x.com/spacecitywx/status/18
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:48:23 UTC No. 16266285
>>16266267
https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-spac
>NASA will land the first woman and first colored person on the Moon, using innovative technologies to explore more of the lunar surface than ever before.
It is listed as a specific mission objective and has been front and center of Artemis' public outreach from the beginning of the program
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:49:46 UTC No. 16266287
>>16266277
It says S for tropical storm right there when it hits land. Also hurricane track predictions five days out. That cone of uncertainty is humongous
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:50:02 UTC No. 16266288
how do we move spacex away from methane to environmentally friendly fuels?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:51:40 UTC No. 16266291
>>16266267
Except
>>16266285
This. What are the odds that the black guy's backup is another black guy? I bet you the woman's backup isn't a black guy, it's another woman.
This says nothing about the quality of the astronauts, their character or professionalism, all that is assumed because they are astronauts. The criteria for selection is what's being criticized, not the astronauts themselves.
Don't obfuscate.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:52:03 UTC No. 16266293
>>16266288
Personally I support switching starship to a chorline triflouride and UDMH engine cycle.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:52:39 UTC No. 16266294
>>16266285
We were discussing ISS astronauts you moron. And what public outreach says is nowhere near as influential as you think on the hiring process for astronauts. It is literally meaningless, they could change it at any moment if the candidates they are looking at arent up to standards and public outreach cant do anything about it. AGAIN THIS IS ISS ASTRONAUTS WE WERE DISCUSSING
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:53:26 UTC No. 16266296
>>16266293
Based absolute uninhabiter.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:54:06 UTC No. 16266298
>>16266294
>We were discussing ISS astronauts you moron
No, you were discussing Artemis II
>One of our NASA Astronauts, Andre Douglas (@Astro_AndreD), has been selected as the backup crew member for the Artemis II mission around the Moon
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:54:30 UTC No. 16266299
>>16266294
>We were discussing ISS astronauts you moron
No, we weren't. We were talking about how Victor Glover's black backup has been announced for Artemis II. Are you sure you're in the correct conversation?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:58:39 UTC No. 16266306
>>16266267
you are wrong, Artemis is pretty much about putting a woman and a black man on the moon
they talk about it every single time, its pretty much their catch phrase
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:59:39 UTC No. 16266307
>>16266294
fuck off retard
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:02:57 UTC No. 16266310
>>16266301
Musk creates miracles after miracles. Consistently.
If he's not the avatar of God, then I dont know how is.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:05:39 UTC No. 16266315
>>16266277
does this mean meteorology is a democracy?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:11:48 UTC No. 16266320
>>16266301
>held back by regulations
When will this meme die. If you can't point to more than one regulation that's affecting SpaceX negatively then it's just a harmful lie.
No I do not have EDS
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:12:33 UTC No. 16266321
>>16266320
>No I do not have EDS
yes you do
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:16:50 UTC No. 16266324
>>16264624
New Glenn is real, you've seen it down at KSC
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:22:35 UTC No. 16266333
>>16266328
Neat. Lets hope this month.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:23:53 UTC No. 16266336
>>16266320
EDS shows themselves like this easily.
They easily ignore the fact that SpaceX was forced to delay the launch for nearly 3 years because of FAA trying to re-assess if they had to reassess. Like faggots
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:24:08 UTC No. 16266337
>>16266333
Shut up muskrat
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:26:23 UTC No. 16266339
>>16266336
Uh oh! The Musk cocksucker is getting angry guys!
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:35:53 UTC No. 16266349
>>16266320
Whatever gets us closer to Mars
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:35:54 UTC No. 16266350
>>16266337
>>16266339
faggot
>>16266336
That's a just problem with slow bureaucracy not a specific regulation
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:36:30 UTC No. 16266351
https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/18085664
>Very interesting. A joint China-Kazakhstan statement today says the pair will "promote mutually beneficial cooperation in the moon and deep space ... and explore the possibility of commercial use of the two sides' space launch sites."
It looks like the Kazakhs are getting pretty close to signing on to the ILRS. It's interesting that Baikonur might be getting some new tenants after the Russians pull out. If China does ever launch anything from there it'd mean that Baikonur could finally see something going to its natural 46 degree inclination.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:38:12 UTC No. 16266353
>>16266350
>furiously sucking elons 2 inch chode online
Dont you feel ANY shame?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:41:35 UTC No. 16266356
>>16266351
China absorbing the Central Asian soviet sphere of influence.
>>16266350
>That's a just problem with slow bureaucracy not a specific regulation
Well its the problem of EIS regulations, they had to do a comprehensive multi agency wide analysis. So it took a really long time to complete.
https://x.com/unnamed_coder/status/
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:41:37 UTC No. 16266357
>>16266328
where does he think hes going?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:43:50 UTC No. 16266358
>>16266357
For a pack of smokes; he'll be right back.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:49:28 UTC No. 16266364
>>16266336
Let's be honest with ourselves though, the FAA environmental reassessment dragging on for so long is the perfect scapegoat for why we had such a massive gap between test flights once they went from just SS doing hops to IFT full booster shit. Lest we forget, they were working on Stage 0 the entire time. They never stopped working and are still working, but shit like the fondite pour didn't happen until relatively close to IFT-1. We also have to consider the engine switch that happened during this time as they progressed from Raptor 1 to 2. Then you have the multiple changes made to the booster and Starship all along the way. Being frank, if they had launched anything back in 2021 or 22 into a suborbital mission profile, it would have probably only revealed:
>Raptor 1 isn't going to cut it.
>Fucking hinges.
>We need better tiles.
Elon even tweeted out that they are still working on figuring out how to make a tool that easily removes tiles because, according to him, currently you need to snap them off. Remember how, for instance, they figured out that the initial pez dispenser would have caused a catastrophic failure to the ship? They did that without ever having to go to space. I guess what I am saying is that they were clearly testing models even when they were stuck on the ground waiting for different pieces to come together. It's fun to scapegoat the FAA, and we got some kino out of the hearing (CSS doxxing himself, "roll the bones", that insane "Native American" chick, etc.) but I think ultimately the FAA actually saved SpaceX from a narrative of being behind on Starship simply because you can always point to the environmental review and say it was the cause, rather than potentially a dozen failed test flights that might have happened and contributed effectively nothing in terms of updating the architecture the program because they would have been flying completely outdated hardware the entire time.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:50:09 UTC No. 16266365
>>16266364
TLDR this I'm not reading your wall of text
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:52:08 UTC No. 16266368
>>16266357
what do you mean think?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:52:53 UTC No. 16266370
>>16266365
TL;DR - The FAA dragging their heels was probably a good thing for SpaceX from a PR and gathering actually useful data point-of-view.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:00:05 UTC No. 16266380
>>16266356
China really is desperate to get more launch site capacity. All of their existing launch sites are government run and regulated, built around workflows for older and less efficient rockets, and are required to prioritize government payloads. Their commercial LSPs are trying to open things up with boat launches, but those seem to have refurbishment issues that make higher launch cadences difficult to impossible. Opening Baikonur up to Chinese commercial launches would bring in a lot of funding that Kazakhstan would love to see, given how hard it's for them to squeeze rubles out of Moscow.
And if Baikonur became a Chinese launch site it would be a huge bitchy insult to the Russians, which I'm sure some groups in China would love.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:09:28 UTC No. 16266391
>>16266328
>>16266333
it wont be allowed to fly until shartliner is back home safely. even though nasa doesnt have any real control over it, they'll put enough pressure on spacex to delay the flight.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:10:29 UTC No. 16266395
>>16266351
>china
>needing baikonaur
lol
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:10:31 UTC No. 16266397
>>16266391
Why and how?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:14:30 UTC No. 16266403
>>16266397
boing will pay off some congress critters to put pressure on nasa
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:16:00 UTC No. 16266407
>>16266364
SpaceX isn't going to sit around doing nothing for 3 years while they wait for FAA. Dumb fuck.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:17:30 UTC No. 16266409
>>16266403
There have been a lot of retarded things posted in this thread and that is definitely one of them
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:18:21 UTC No. 16266411
>>16266407
Youre the retard in thinking they have a choice
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:19:07 UTC No. 16266412
>>16266411
They have a choice if the choice was given. If you cut off their legs, then they have no choice.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:19:48 UTC No. 16266416
>>16266364
i might be inclined to give this more credence if starship hadn't shown marked improvement on every flight so far. raptor probably didn't suffer too much from the delays but everything else likely did.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:22:10 UTC No. 16266419
Polaris Dawn NET July 31
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:23:29 UTC No. 16266423
>>16266407
And they didn't. They worked on Raptor 2. They worked on Stage 0. They continued prototyping Starship. You are missing the narrative here. There is an incredibly high chance that every single launch that might have happened would have ended in catastrophic failure. The delay worked in SpaceX's favor because it allowed them to mature the system without ever having to launch, and minimize the total launches. If we had to go through a two year stretch where Starship exploded or disintegrated in one way or another, you can be certain this would have been spun as "SpaceX continues to show no progress with troubled Starship program". There would have been reporters putting questions to Ballast, and allowed him to weaponize the situation. Think about how insufferable the EDS crowd would be. I'm honestly relieved that they didn't get these opportunities, all because they didn't launch.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:25:24 UTC No. 16266426
>>16266423
>I know all this hypothetical settings because I have visited a trillion other universe where SpaceX took all the different variables into account and have seen a zillion trillion launch failures with 100% certainty, trust me bro, SpaceX has 100% failure rate because
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:25:43 UTC No. 16266427
>>16266423
>There is an incredibly high chance that every single launch that might have happened would have ended in catastrophic failure.
My guy, this is 4chan. You don't need to reach into my pants and try to clickbate me
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:28:19 UTC No. 16266432
>>16266391
that doesn't make any sense, Polaris Dawn is going to be free flying and not go anywhere near the ISS
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:29:38 UTC No. 16266435
>>16266432
Maybe NASA is asking SpaceX the right to use Polaris Dawn vehicle for emergencies
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:29:49 UTC No. 16266436
>>16266423
>it allowed them to mature the system without ever having to launch
lol, you don't understand iterative development
I'm 100% sure the development would have been quicker if they were allowed to launch, doesn't matter if those tests "failed" in the mean time
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:30:39 UTC No. 16266438
>>16266426
With two years of extra prep time, until the last flight, SpaceX did have a 100% failure rate with Starship. That cannot be denied. The launches were kino, but they were failures.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:31:45 UTC No. 16266442
>>16266435
they cant, polaris dawn dragon is retrofitted for EVA activities. it doesnt have a docking mechanism.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:32:03 UTC No. 16266443
>>16266438
Suppose they launched that 2 years ago, now they have 2 years to perfect the starship. They would likely have been running dozens of perfected Starships by now. If not for being held back for those 2 years.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:32:06 UTC No. 16266444
>>16266435
no, there are 2 others in refurbishment which they could use in an emergency I'm pretty sure, there is no legitimate reason to delay Polaris Dawn due to shartliner
>>16264138
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:33:05 UTC No. 16266446
>>16266440
>india today
What do you expect you shitjeet. Nobody but your kind reads this fucking garbagep
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:33:07 UTC No. 16266447
>>16266438
you don't understand iterative hardware rich development
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:36:07 UTC No. 16266452
>>16266440
I really wish it was. The fact that Falcon has been able to drag its hegemonic balls across the launch industry unchallenged for an entire decade is one of the biggest embarrassments in modern spaceflight.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:38:40 UTC No. 16266455
>>16266438
>>16266447
to spell this out for you, what defines success or failure for a hardware test is not if it explodes or not, its if you get useful data or not
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:40:02 UTC No. 16266458
>>16266440
>india today
Lol
Lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:06:49 UTC No. 16266497
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>"For our base design, we're designing around return to launch site propulsive landing," said Merritt D'Elia, manager of propulsion for the MLV program. "We'll iterate through all of these things, but we're fundamentally architecting for reusability. Not just architecting, we're planning to do it."
Firefly is making a F9 clone
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:06:52 UTC No. 16266498
>>16266301
I’m glad carmack is at least still interested in following the private sector despite not being active in it anymore. He was way ahead of the curve!
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:07:55 UTC No. 16266499
>>16266497
>But MLV will be more than twice the diameter of Alpha, requiring new tooling on Firefly's production floor. Firefly more than doubled the size of its engine factory to accommodate production of the larger Miranda engines. MLV will be able to deploy payloads of up to 16 metric tons (35,000 pounds) into low-Earth orbit when its booster flies in expendable mode.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:11:05 UTC No. 16266503
>>16266499
>In the six weeks since the engine blew up, Firefly engineers found the cause and implemented fixes in the next Miranda test engine and put it on the stand to kick off another series of hot-fire tests. It takes less than five minutes to walk from Firefly's engine factory to the test stand, so engineers inspect one engine after a test-firing and then quickly change how the next one is being built.
>Sometimes, Firefly's comfort with test failures has clashed with the conservative culture of Northrop Grumman, one of the largest US defense contractors. But a visit to Firefly's engine shop allayed those concerns.
Firefly also seems to embrace the hardware rich iterative approach
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:12:56 UTC No. 16266507
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>However, six months later, the two satellites have yet to become operational. According to the German publication Der Spiegel, the antennas on the satellites cannot be unfolded. Engineers with OHB have tried to resolve the issue by resetting the flight software, performing maneuvers to vibrate or shake the antennas loose, and more to no avail.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:22:01 UTC No. 16266522
>>16266507
German overcomplicated engineering is shit. You need an American engineering mindset. Simplify everything.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:25:18 UTC No. 16266531
>>16266522
the saturn v SHLV wouldn’t have worked without the paperclip germans… but it also wouldn’t have worked without the americans offering practical solutions to the classic german turbofuckery design ideas
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:27:11 UTC No. 16266535
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
>Still a fair bit of uncertainty, but the latest outlook for Starbase and Hurricane Beryl is not terrible. Maybe some tropical storm force winds on Sunday or Monday. Several inches of rain. But I don't envision anything catastrophic right now. Will keep tracking.
It's important to remember that nothing ever happens
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:30:33 UTC No. 16266539
>>16266535
american weather forecast models arent as good as europeans. only just now are we discovering that it's likely to turn into a hurricane again once it enters the gulf of mexico.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:34:12 UTC No. 16266544
>>16266535
https://x.com/SpacePadreIsle/status
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:35:01 UTC No. 16266546
>>16266544
it begins
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:36:02 UTC No. 16266550
>>16265970
bro it decomposes over time and then does a phase separation at low enough concentrations which ends up concentrating all the ozone together and causing an explosion
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:51:37 UTC No. 16266592
>>16266544
yawn
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:52:10 UTC No. 16266595
>>16266555
Who needs a complicated model when you can just go off of vibes. That’s what the storm is doing.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:53:13 UTC No. 16266597
>>16266555
It's a beautiful day in the USA
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:59:10 UTC No. 16266608
>>16266497
are they still planning to make it big enough to do useful full reuse?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 21:00:11 UTC No. 16266611
>>16266499
so that's a no
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 21:04:19 UTC No. 16266617
>>16266555
I can see my house from here
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 21:38:05 UTC No. 16266676
>>16266440
>india today
Dalit, please
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 21:39:53 UTC No. 16266680
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 21:47:32 UTC No. 16266700
>>16266522
don't just build one when you can build two for twice the price
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 21:51:47 UTC No. 16266710
>>16266700
They did build two. Neither of them worked
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 21:54:33 UTC No. 16266711
>>16266320
>simpsons pfp
every single time
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:03:44 UTC No. 16266732
>>16266710
germoney forgot the most important lesson of all >>16265397
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:06:02 UTC No. 16266740
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Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:09:09 UTC No. 16266750
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:10:10 UTC No. 16266751
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:11:12 UTC No. 16266752
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:25:59 UTC No. 16266764
https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/
>We are go for another Alpha FLTA005 launch attempt tonight with the target liftoff at 9:04 pm PDT. Alpha and all 8 NASA payloads remain healthy. Livestream begins at T-30 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/live/VWAg2v
Who's ready for another try?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:35:26 UTC No. 16266777
>>16266764
I just shit my pants!! Go Firefly!!
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:41:34 UTC No. 16266788
is the production site starbase or does it include the launch site too? or is it called something like starport?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:42:35 UTC No. 16266789
>>16266788
So before I answer that, how new are you? Dont be shy we were all new at some point
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:43:30 UTC No. 16266791
>>16266789
im not new im an olderfag than you are
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:43:43 UTC No. 16266792
Starbase has been destroyed
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:45:30 UTC No. 16266794
>>16266791
Oldfags dont ask these basic questions. No need to pretend like youre old to fit in, just say how new you are and I can answer that question.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:46:51 UTC No. 16266795
>>16266788
the whole area is called Starchica
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:47:00 UTC No. 16266796
>>16266788
its called PICKLE RICK base
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:58:10 UTC No. 16266806
Dude what if we painted starship green and when the tower catches it there are loudspeakers that play I TURNED MYSELF INTO A PICKLE STARSHIP MORTY IM PICKLE STARSHIIIIIP
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:58:22 UTC No. 16266807
>>16266792
that's insane
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:59:24 UTC No. 16266809
>>16266806
yeah
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:59:37 UTC No. 16266810
>>16266795
>Starchica
spacex missed an opportunity here
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:01:57 UTC No. 16266812
>>16265546
>noted that schedule assessment is independent of the readiness of other aspects of the mission, such as the Space Launch System, Orion spacecraft and new lunar spacesuits
I'd say
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:07:08 UTC No. 16266821
https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1
>Great progress at Stennis. The team is methodically working through more than 300 integrated tests bringing the test stand and Archimedes to life. We are into the big tests now with spin primes (pictured) complete and all the data looking good.
They're really taking their time with this
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:08:40 UTC No. 16266826
>>16266821
This is where SpaceX was with Raptor in 2012
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:13:17 UTC No. 16266834
>>16266821
They’ve stalled out of talent and resources and they’re desperate. Too beholden to the shareholder
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:13:17 UTC No. 16266835
>>16266747
>>16266750
>>16266751
>>16266752
Little Boca Chica, bros..... ;__;
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:13:26 UTC No. 16266837
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:40:19 UTC No. 16266878
>>16266795
and when there's a RUD, it's Star-chica-BOOM!
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:47:30 UTC No. 16266888
>>16266737
>WAI
nah that guy is cancer, did you notice how all the people working for him vanished?
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 00:21:32 UTC No. 16266917
>>16266888
I know he is a faggot, but this video has no commentary
just a flyover
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 02:28:59 UTC No. 16267032
>>16266752
i feel bad for boca chica village. those people had a hidden away little piece of paradise. miles from other people. now it's a giant construction site. i bet it was a great place to live before space x.