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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16288620

boeing shartliner edition
why is nasa such a shitshow?

previous >>16286216

Anonymous No. 16288621

Fuck space

Anonymous No. 16288624

Fuck urf

Anonymous No. 16288625

>>16288621
I would, but it lacks suitable holes.

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Anonymous No. 16288638

>>16288630
crazy that you can make a fictional movie and everyone just believes it. the founding fathers did not prepare for this

Anonymous No. 16288639

>>16288638
But it said "Inspired By True Events" in the opening credits

Anonymous No. 16288649

>>16288639
That means they took historical events and made it a playground for their made up nonsense.

Anonymous No. 16288651

>>16288639
There is one scene where John Glenn stops the launch process and demands to personally speak with the negress who made the calculations. I'm pretty sure something like this did not happen.

Anonymous No. 16288653

>>16288639
I remember they did a poll of the br*tish and most of them thought "The Boy in the Striped Pajamas" was a true story lol

Anonymous No. 16288656

>>16288653
The movie is a little one-sided

Anonymous No. 16288657

>>16288651
it defeats the whole point of having a capcom but whatever

Anonymous No. 16288659

I really need an explanation as to why the ancient piece of shit Soyuz was the ONLY way for anyone to get to orbit until Crew Dragon while the largest space industry on the planet can’t make Starliner work? What the FUCK is going on? Why is fucking Soyuz working and Starliner isn’t? Ecxplain.

Anonymous No. 16288660

>>16288659
S____ I_ H___

Anonymous No. 16288661

>>16288659
because soyuz's had more effort put into it over 60 years than starliner has?

Anonymous No. 16288662

>>16288659
Europe should nuke itself out of shame for not developing at least orc-tier human spacecraft

Anonymous No. 16288664

>>16288659
Soyuz predates the moon landing so they've had time to work out any bugs.
Starliner was planned by Boeing to be cost plus, so they didn't really worry about it. It was just going to be another way for them to suck up NASA's billions. Unfortunately for them SpaceX not only succeeded but beat them by five years so they never got more than the original sum. Not only did they get $4bil from NASA, they had to spend another $1.5bil of their own money. All this while the best aerospace engineers are taking a pay cut to work at SpaceX. It was always doomed

Anonymous No. 16288671

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEUG1v8fSjg

Local news story on SpaceX relocation plans to Starbase.

Anonymous No. 16288674

Also HOW is SLS cleaning Starship’s clock like this? I get that SLS is wildly expensive, but it FUCKING WORKS, Starship does NOT. Forget reusable tech, it can put exactly ZERO kg into orbit currently. ZERO. It literally doesn’t fucking work. SpaceX has the best design lab on the planet and enormous funding from large government contracts and has.been building and testing furiously — and yet SLS is reheating old tech and parts. We’re engineers of that era just THAT much more talented? Is it just screwing themselves trying to reach an unrealistically aggressive cost ratio? What is it?

Anonymous No. 16288680

>>16288674
Heres a (You) since you put allot of effort in to bait nobody will read.

Anonymous No. 16288683

>>16288659
it just works

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Anonymous No. 16288686

>>16288674
so true bestie

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Anonymous No. 16288689

>>16288659

Anonymous No. 16288691

>>16288686
curvature of earth demonstrated

Anonymous No. 16288697

>>16288674
low quality bait, you're probably underage.

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>>16288674
obligatory (you)

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Anonymous No. 16288700

>>16288674

Anonymous No. 16288712

The bait post above made me realize that both starship and sls are designed for reuse.

Starship for the flight hardware, sls for the ideas, contractors and pork.

Starship is still working on its reuse goals, but sls reused everything it was meant to before it ever took off.

Anonymous No. 16288718

Is it proper to say mars belongs to the earth? Because humans are here and we control basically everything?
Is it more proper to say “Mars belongs to the Sun” (or, mars belongs to the solar/sol system, I guess)
In my opinion: Mars belongs to Earth, but if I think about it too hard… the sun doesn’t belong to the earth! It’s the other way around, the Earth obviously belongs to the Sun; which dwarfs us with its superior gravity and its unfathomably energetic nuclear activity

Anonymous No. 16288721

>>16288712
i mean, SLS was excellent at re-using the pork grifting technologies developed alongside the shuttle, they were even more efficient this time at sucking as much money as possible into useless grift.

Anonymous No. 16288724

>>16288718
everything in the universe belongs to humans. God made it all for us.

Anonymous No. 16288725

>>16288718
rare /x/post that i approve of having in here

Anonymous No. 16288726

>>16288718
What if we were to capture the sun?
Build a cage around it and use it for our purposes!
Then the solar system would be ours.

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Anonymous No. 16288727

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1814366082385224060

Anonymous No. 16288729

>>16288718
>be sun
>shitty little monkeys evolve on a planet in my solarsystem
>hmmpf, they're way below me
>fastforward a few million years
>they built a cuck cage around me and steal all my energy away from me, even a CME won't do anything to them anymore, they just think it's pretty!
>they won't even let me die in peace or go out on my own terms, they keep removing the heavy metals in my core and adding more hydrogen!
soon we will own that bitch too, the void, the stars and everything in between belongs to humanity, all male aliens will be killed and their females used as our subservient little sex slaves.

Anonymous No. 16288733

>>16288729
We'll create synthetic life forms long, long, long before we meet any aliens.

Anonymous No. 16288741

>>16288733
you think it'll take us longer to drill through Europa's crust than to make synthetic life?

Anonymous No. 16288743

>>16288727
If he lands it on the FAA HQ, everybody gets a free taco.

Anonymous No. 16288749

>>16288741
With the planetary mission directorate at NASA being the way it is and no fire under the asses of politicians to make it happen, yeah, probably.

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Anonymous No. 16288750

>>16288727
A reminder that the new trunk turns Dragon into a deep space vehicle.

You don't need a heat shield capable of handling Lunar return velocities if you can propulsively decelerate.

This will remove the key niche that makes Orion (and thus SLS) indispensible for the Artemis program.

Anonymous No. 16288752

>>16288750
>You don't need a heat shield capable of handling Lunar return velocities if you can propulsively decelerate.
holy shit true, then you can launch distributed Vast or NG modules to link up with the deep space Dragon and you basically have a mini-Gateway

Anonymous No. 16288754

https://x.com/relativityspace/status/1814375659583746349

Relativity comes out of hybernation

Anonymous No. 16288758

>>16288754
Oh right, the Terran R guys, I legitimately forgot what they were doing.

Anonymous No. 16288763

>>16288754
>the aggressiveness of that music
Based.
Lo-fi ambient electronica needs to get out of the way; space is about going hard.

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Anonymous No. 16288778

der 7-8 raum vector ist der bluthimmel bewegung durch programmgeometry.

Anonymous No. 16288780

I can't believe Elon Musk died of Ligma

Anonymous No. 16288781

>>16288780
who's steve jobs?

Anonymous No. 16288784

>>16288639
That's just for legal liability. The movie was about 98% true

Anonymous No. 16288791

>>16288750
Wait is there not a heat shield on the deorbit dragon? How is the last of the crew going to get off or the pilot that's taking the ISS down going to survive?

Anonymous No. 16288794

>>16288791
They will burn up with the ISS

Anonymous No. 16288795

>>16288791
Crew will return on seperate vehicle.

Anonymous No. 16288800

>>16288791
you could have figured this one out on your own champ

Anonymous No. 16288801

>>16288791
The Orion crew will be still be stranded there, to guide her down.

Anonymous No. 16288806

>>16288727
>high impulse, low thrust
too bad VASIMR isn't ready, sounds like an ideal testbed and application for it. Instead we get bog standard monoprop thrusters, just a lot of them.

Anonymous No. 16288807

>>16288791
They will send up a Starliner for the final crew return flight

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Anonymous No. 16288811

>>16288630

Anonymous No. 16288813

>>16288729
>muh narcissistic power fantasy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_(psychology)#Narcissistic_personality_disorder
Two characteristics of someone with narcissistic personality disorder are:[28]
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior)
A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, wealth, beauty, or ideal love.

Anonymous No. 16288816

>>16288813
non-sequitur

Anonymous No. 16288817

>>16288813
>Dream of doing big things
>ThAtS bAd AcTuAlLy
Seethe harder.

Anonymous No. 16288818

>>16288806
too low of thrust

Anonymous No. 16288820

>>16288813
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

Anonymous No. 16288821

>>16288818
are any of the ion thrusters under development powerful enough for this task?

Anonymous No. 16288825

what's the current status for shart-in-mart-liner?

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Anonymous No. 16288828

>>16288825
Still in orbit as a monument to the necessarily deleterious consequences of affirmative action for competency and capability.

Anonymous No. 16288830

>>16288821
not without a hilariously large power source, imagine the deorbit tug having solar panels larger than the ISS

Anonymous No. 16288835

>>16288727
>easier to develop a new craft than remove and tie up the panels
NASA. Whatever, happy the money is going to SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16288889

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1814412765039034728?t=XybHV9Mc7CVR9tHCywwuPQ&s=19

Anonymous No. 16288892

>>16288889
Sounds like six to eight launches -- four if it's for Starshield.

Anonymous No. 16288896

fags

Anonymous No. 16288899

>>16288896
where?

Anonymous No. 16288900

The ideal budget for NASA is zero

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Anonymous No. 16288901

>>16288889
https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/3844604//

Anonymous No. 16288908

>>16288901
Hmmm something about this is fishy

Anonymous No. 16288918

>>16288901
>>16288908
>awarded a $661,025,403 modification
>from $3,338,974,597
>to $4,000,000,000

Anonymous No. 16288926

SubsidyX
<Original joke. Do not repost>

Anonymous No. 16288929

>>16288901
>>16288889
NSS launch. Probably moved away from Vulcan to SpaceX.

Anonymous No. 16288932

>>16288749
I think a private organization will do it long before nasa WSVG

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Anonymous No. 16288939

>>16288901
>>16288889
Both ULA and SpaceX got money, though we don't know what exactly for.

Anonymous No. 16288944

>>16288939
Also very round numbers. Weird.

Anonymous No. 16288970

Just watched the Wild Wild West. (Astra, Planet, RocketLab).

It was pretty cool

Anonymous No. 16288971

>>16288970
Shut up nigger >>>/lit/sffg

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Anonymous No. 16288982

>The largest robotic arm on the ISS, Canadarm2 weighs 1,800 kilograms and is used to hold crew members during EVAs, move station modules, spacecraft, orbital replacement units and Dextre on the US Orbital Segment. The ROS does not require spacecraft or modules to be manipulated, as all spacecraft and modules dock automatically, and may be repositioned or discarded the same way. Each Strela crane weighs 45 kg and can perform all necessary tasks, with substantial weight savings, less complexity and less maintenance than the Canadarm2 and the European Robotic Arm.
Who is in the wrong here?

Anonymous No. 16288983

>>16288939
>>16288889
>>16288901
brilliant pebbles

Anonymous No. 16288998

>>16288791
expendable crew

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Anonymous No. 16289002

>>16288982
>can preform all necessary tasks
>except relocate itself
>or dock unpiloted modules/vessels
>or dock the shuttle
Its Russian propaganda, why use advanced western robotic arm when good ol' hand cranked Russian ladder is available

Anonymous No. 16289003

>>16289002
Why would it need to do those things?

Anonymous No. 16289006

I shit my ass and now I pee poop!

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Anonymous No. 16289015

>>16288982
has
>nasa developed a million dollar space pen that can write upside down, underwater, and in a vacuum
>the russians used a pencil
vibes

Anonymous No. 16289018

>>16289015
graphite flakes/dust were an electrical/fire hazard, especially in the high oxygen environments that a lot of early spacecraft used

Anonymous No. 16289067

>>16288791
Use a fire extinguisher to Tiangong and hijack a Shenzhou to return home with a great story to tell.

Anonymous No. 16289068

>>16288791
Crashing this space station, with no survivors.

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Anonymous No. 16289086

>>16288830
What if they hook directly to the ISS's power supply?

Anonymous No. 16289089

>>16289086
They have to keep the Starliner crew oxygenated while de-orbiting. Can't do that if you reroute the power

Anonymous No. 16289094

>>16289089
kek

Anonymous No. 16289096

>go outside this evening
>its pinkish-orange because the cloudy skies are sucking up the sunset
>feels like mars
>feels weird and depressing
good luck to the colonists

Anonymous No. 16289098

>>16288889
most likely starshield or that space force megaconstellation

Anonymous No. 16289109

>>16289096
they should get astronauts from the western states where wild fire smoke blots out the sky for a couple months, they can handle it

Anonymous No. 16289121

>>16289096
Mars doesn't have a Mexico movie filter bro, it looks just like urf during the day.

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Anonymous No. 16289128

>>16288791
MOOSE

Anonymous No. 16289129

>>16288791
They expect one of us in the wreckage brother

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Anonymous No. 16289130

>Falcon 9 triple-header
>LC-39 and LC-40 launches are scheduled 8 minutes apart

Anonymous No. 16289132

>>16289130
oh shit forreal?

Anonymous No. 16289134

how's it going on the Chinese space station

Anonymous No. 16289145

>>16289132
If Next Spaceflight is to be believed

Anonymous No. 16289151

>>16289134
nobody cares what's happening on the iss, let alone the chinese station. you could even put them together and still nobody would care.

Anonymous No. 16289154

The space shuttle external tank had a wall thickness of 2.5 mm, what is the tank thickness of the SLS?

Anonymous No. 16289184

>>16289154
More than that

Anonymous No. 16289193

>>16288659
Because soviets designed their shit to fucking work, not to milk money out of the government's teat.

Anonymous No. 16289195

>>16288727
>oops we accidentally boosted it into a higher orbit and are now making it a museum

Seriously, allowing it to go down is criminal.

Anonymous No. 16289203

Hi

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>>16289203

Anonymous No. 16289223

>>16289203
Hi! I'm poopyass! Thanks for posting

Anonymous No. 16289239

>>16289223
Go change your diaper >>>/pol/ will help you

Anonymous No. 16289246

>>16289239
Would you shut up man?

Anonymous No. 16289248

>>16289151
clearly we need to replace astronauts and experiments with space reality TV to get funding for space flight development.

Anonymous No. 16289249

>>16289248
There was going to be a show like that but it must've been quietly cancelled

Anonymous No. 16289277

>>16289195
why dont they graveyard orbit it? Eventually it will be feasible to return it to earth. It's like if people hundreds of years ago sank a historically significant boat instead of just beaching it

Anonymous No. 16289298

>>16289277
NASA released a whole paper on why they are deorbiting it instead of the other options, go read it.

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Anonymous No. 16289309

I hope the weather's better for flight 5, Flight 2 still has the best off-board launch footage by far.

Anonymous No. 16289314

>>16289309
Two more weeks

Anonymous No. 16289317

>>16289309
as long as we get a launch before 730am local time I don't care (then we'd get some daylight during ship reentry in the indian ocean)

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Anonymous No. 16289319

>>16289317
They're revising the flight plan for flight 5, and with any luck, that won't include a nighttime reentry and landing because Ship 29 made a soft splashdown.

Anonymous No. 16289323

>>16289319
has there been any word on whether they're trying an in-space raptor relight this time around? Otherwise I don't think the flight plan for the ship itself will change itself

Anonymous No. 16289328

>>16289298
Tldr?

Anonymous No. 16289333

>>16289328
It's going to fall apart due to heating cycles and become a cloud of space junk.

Anonymous No. 16289368

>>16289323
No, but it's assumed that they'll make the attempt, because it's the last hurdle before they can start carrying real payloads.

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Anonymous No. 16289369

>>16289298
source?

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Anonymous No. 16289371

55 years today my dudes

Anonymous No. 16289377

Wasn't falcon supposed to return to flight this weekend

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Anonymous No. 16289385

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yonYf6zoR0Y
>Viewer Spaceflight Questions 2.1

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Anonymous No. 16289391

Another oldspace retard down. A few more and we're onto a more reasonable generation.

Anonymous No. 16289396

>>16289371
Gonna be 60 before they go on the moon again.

Anonymous No. 16289405

>>16288835
its like 40 years old

Anonymous No. 16289416

>>16288813
>explicitly believe in humanity, something greater than myself, and their ability to one day conquer the stars and everything else
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE LE ALIENS
>YOU'RE NOT THAT SPESHAAAL
yeah i know sperglord, i'm not, but humanity (white people) are, and we will claim it for it is our birthright. those without human spirit (you) will be left by the wayside, mostly forgotten but occasionally remembered in history as the naysayers that formed all their self-confidence from their belief that pessimism and self-hatred was equal to intelligence.

Anonymous No. 16289421

>>16289369
>book about Colorado
what state does the Z man live in? Anybody know?

Anonymous No. 16289435

>>16289405
No not the ISS, the deorbit vehicle. Elon is saying it needs a low max thrust because of the panels. How hard would it really be to just cut/tie them down? I don't know anything but that seems cheaper than $800mil. I guess space is hard

Anonymous No. 16289443

>>16289130
Did they say why the last one failed?

Anonymous No. 16289444

>>16289435
I thought about this too back when he said it and my only thought is, where would you put the panels after some EVA welding or whatever to get them off?
The roll up soft panels might not be a problem (assuming they can be rolled back up) but the stiff panels are quite large and a lot of pieces of the station in general came up
in the shuttle bay door (so nothing today can really take it back down) and like half the hardware on the station is hard-bolted together; not designed to come apart

Anonymous No. 16289445

>>16289421
Dr. Z dwells in Colorado I think

Anonymous No. 16289447

>>16289444
I'm literally saying tie them lengthwise against the ISS with rope. I'm not sure why that wouldn't work.

Anonymous No. 16289448

>>16289371
Anyone else watching Apollo 11 this evening? its a great moviedoc. awesome saturn V launch sequence

Anonymous No. 16289449

>>16289447
Because the panels don’t bend like that
Plus the US Astronaut corps has too many engineers and shuttle-era over thinkers… not enough cowboy astronauts who know how to wrangle

Anonymous No. 16289450

>>16289333
this, or maybe get hit by something and do the same. don't want a cloud of junk in a high orbit like that. it'll take forever to deorbit by itself.

Anonymous No. 16289451

It would be great if we could even take one of the later modules off and bring it down, but we don't have the tech for it now.
I'm not sure that Shittle could even land with one of the modules in its cargo bay, it might be too heavy.

Anonymous No. 16289452

>>16289449
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't need to bend them. Just stack them up and tie them to the big flat part. You can even use a three million dollar aerospace grade rope if you really want to

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Anonymous No. 16289469

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U18lle1xBAA
>How Will SpaceX Starship Overcome This Problem?

Anonymous No. 16289470

>>16289377
I thought that too, did the faa go home for the weekend before giving them the all clear?

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Anonymous No. 16289471

>>16289435
How would the panels make it harder to thrust? It's not like there's any drag acting on them. Centre of mass wouldn't matter since they are symmetrical.

Anonymous No. 16289473

>>16289469
I'm not telling you.

Anonymous No. 16289474

>>16289452
Real Planetes hours. How long until in-orbit servicing becomes viable?

Before you say 'never', realize that this is what the ISS crew basically are already. They spend much more time doing repairs and maintenance than on "science," and what they call science is mostly just following step-by-step directions radioed to them from the ground. The reason astronauts have 6 PhDs each is because it's hypercompetitive, not because they actually need the skills.

Anonymous No. 16289476

>>16289469
i know how to do it.

Anonymous No. 16289477

>>16289471
The problem is probably more to do with breaking the panels like twigs if you had high thrust. You want to deorbit the entire station, not break everything apart and leave 50% of the station in LEO

Anonymous No. 16289478

>>16289471
The low max thrust limit is because the panels are floppy. They're designed for an environment where basically no forces are acting on them
>>16289474
Yeah I bet 70s NASA would've handled this differently. When space is fuller and everyone up there is private, you'll probably see some cowboys again.

Anonymous No. 16289480

>>16289474
there are startups with the goal to do in-orbit servicing already

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Anonymous No. 16289489

>>16289474
Nigger, you can't simply EVA and start pulling cables off. Do you know how much dicking around you have to do just for a basic assembly EVA? It's not that easy in de-construction-ry
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GbZQEIGIbI

Anonymous No. 16289491

>>16289471
theres only so much stress they can take before they snap off and envelope the entire world in an impenetrable layer of deadly shards forever.

Anonymous No. 16289497

>>16289435
>How hard would it really be to just cut/tie them down
That requires astronauts do long eva work to remove something and then have those parts be controlled deorbited as well. This requires few more launches to do the job.

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Anonymous No. 16289503

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jn6d9VarI
>New Launch Tower is Rising Quickly | SpaceX Boca Chica

Anonymous No. 16289510

>>16288727
Imagine the headlines if something went wrong
>SpaceX TEARS APART the space station (no elaboration)

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>>16289503

Anonymous No. 16289513

>>16289469
What is the problem? I don't watch clickbait videos that don't actually say what the video is about

Anonymous No. 16289516

>>16289513
Fuck, I'm never watching this annoying fag again.
The problem was the freezing point of methane and boiling temperature of oxygen being really close but it's actually not because they're kept at higher pressure, making the difference higher.

Anonymous No. 16289518

>>16289516
cool I guess I don't need to watch it then, lmao

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>>16289518

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>>16289520

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>>16289521

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Anonymous No. 16289526

>>16289385
his answers

>nuclear rockets
unimpressive

Anonymous No. 16289529

>>16289526
>>16289385
>nobody self-funds nuclear rockets
Yeah, no fucking shit. How can anyone do this if the core mechanism of the technology is kept under a gorillion locks and they guy with the keys is an 80 year old that takes 5 minutes to open each locks. Fission rockets will never EVER be self funded. The only way market funding returns to this sector is whenever fusion gets solved in the next 15-20 years and the focus is on miniaturization.

Anonymous No. 16289536

https://youtu.be/4OS9kq0-ssg

There is an interesting point in Hullo's video. He said that right before Bridenstein became a NASA admin, a Lunar rover was concelled and because he was really interesting in exploration of the Moon, he brought it back as VIPER. Now, under another admin, they're concelling the Lunar rover again.

Him and Jurczyk were really one of the best people at NASA in recent years.

Anonymous No. 16289543

>>16289536
lol, and he openly said that it could be a political move because NASA doesn't want private companies doing their job

Anonymous No. 16289545

>>16289489
wow these guys are fast!

Anonymous No. 16289556

>>16289543
>because NASA doesn't want private companies doing their job
What a retarded move if that's the reality of it all
>Private companies offering cheaper and more reliable access to space
>NASA becomes ass-mad
>Shoots itself in the foot in protest
>Govt. see's NASA as incompetent
>Awards more missions to private companies

Anonymous No. 16289558

Is SX still having autogenous pressurization issues with Starship?

Anonymous No. 16289561

>>16289556
I would accept this explanation if NASA was an efficient and stringen organization but everyone knows it's pretty much the opposite. Especially not with that orange frankenstein rocket eating up the huge part of their budget.
We can only hope for a different administration at the end of the year.

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Anonymous No. 16289562

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1814657805351071778

Anonymous No. 16289568

>>16289562
americans are such rubes. they see $42 billion vanish and their first instinct is that it has to be incompetence. any other country in the world would know exactly what to call it.

Anonymous No. 16289570

>>16289568
For some reason everywhere in the world investment into expanding internet infrastructure ends up vanishing

Anonymous No. 16289574

>>16289562
To be fair, what exactly is Joe supposed to do? It’s not like the gooberment could somehow rescind the contracts and re-award them to Starlink

Anonymous No. 16289576

>>16289570
Romania has better internet infrastructure than USA.

Anonymous No. 16289580

>>16289574
Yes they could. If the contractor has nothing to show for 42B then of course they could terminate it and ask for the money back

Anonymous No. 16289587

>>16289574
Government can do whatever it wants.

Anonymous No. 16289588

>>16289574
sleep joe's administration put the pressure on the FCC to withdraw the contract in the first place

Anonymous No. 16289591

>>16289576
How much of that infrastructure actually useable? Not Romania, but here they just laid down bunch of cables all over the country, but it's pretty much impossible to connect to it, there's a cable running like 30 meters from my house

Anonymous No. 16289592

>>16289556
Which entity in the government do you think it is who awards those contracts to private entities?

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Anonymous No. 16289605

>>16289591
Optical cables are all over Eastern Europe
If I were to make a joke, I'd say it's because plastic optical cable can't be stolen and sold like copper cables

Anonymous No. 16289610

>>16289605
I'm from eastern europe and like I said they just laid a lot of optical cables that connects to nothing

Anonymous No. 16289612

Sam Harris on Elon Musk's recent Twitter outbursts:
https://youtu.be/E1GROJPCPV4?si=ZsgMeeTOMpeTRr-r&t=2498

Anonymous No. 16289613

>>16289605
balkanoid here, my internetspeed is pretty sad.

Anonymous No. 16289619

>>16289613
im on 3g cell phone data 10km from the tower in the woods. its been really shit for weeks now. i think summer is generally worse due to the sun or something. same every year. if i can hit 100kb/s its awesome.

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Anonymous No. 16289622

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1814666180356878703

Anonymous No. 16289624

>>16289605
no internet in Iceland? kek

Anonymous No. 16289625

>>16289612
Sam Harris has severe TDS, so bad he basically cut ties to people who didn't have as bad TDS as he had

Anonymous No. 16289628

>>16289622
>anyone with millions of dollars who wants to be a space traveler and help build a new civilization on Mars should be able to do so

Anonymous No. 16289631

>>16289625
apparently he's not on good terms with Elon either. If he was he could be influencing Martian religious policy.

Anonymous No. 16289645

>>16288729
I agree in principle, but I am unconvinced that there would necessarily be male and female aliens.

Earth itself provides counter examples even among macroscopic multicellular life, even among vertebrates, and even among mammals. Male seahorses incubate eggs, male birds are the beautiful ones, and there's enough to write about hyenas to fill whole books.

But supposing there were male and female aliens, why should we expect them to be more sexually attractive to us than any other non-human animals? Many mammals are easily classified as male or female in a way that's analogous to humans, but very few people find dogs or apes or badgers sexy.

There are many perfectly fertile human females who due to one defect or another, or even simply age or plainness, are below the standards of the type of men who would genocide alien races in their quest for alien pussy. If not they could simply stay on earth fucking fatties, grannies or double baggers. Is it reasonable to expect alien females to be more attractive to human males than actual human females?

tl;dr aliens are likely to be ugly and not hot and not resemble the female sexual ideal ingrained in human males by millions of years of evolution, and on that basis I expect they will make bad sex slaves

Anonymous No. 16289647

>>16288791
They're leaving with the Axiom space station

Anonymous No. 16289648

>>16288970
not spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16289649

>>16289006
tyfys

Anonymous No. 16289652

>>16289628
or if you have some valuable skills then you could probably become a colonist/worker

Anonymous No. 16289654

>>16289006

>/wsg/5617333

Anonymous No. 16289656

>>16289648
kek

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Anonymous No. 16289662

HAPPY MOON LANDING DAY EVERYONE!

WOOOO YEEEEEAAHHH

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Anonymous No. 16289663

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1814662803547988046
>An update for you: USSF-106 is our first national security space mission on Vulcan. Finishing up for transport to the Cape. (Our second mission is already there and waiting)

Anonymous No. 16289667

>>16289628
Elon makes money in order to fund his Mars colony. If he has enough money from other sources he can afford to hire qualified colonists rather than charge them to go. (The welders he's paying to build Starship right now aren't multimillionaires paying for the privilege.)

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Anonymous No. 16289671

What are they trying to hide with this blur? Is this Japanese rocket porn or something?

Anonymous No. 16289679

>>16289667
that is how it is going to have to start in any case
but there needs to be permanent colonists that want to live there at some point, perhaps that can be done through people paying through work in some sense instead of paying for the trip, but they would pretty much have to work at the colony anyway even if they paid for the trip

Anonymous No. 16289687

>trying to find trump's speech regarding spaceflight
where is it? there's like 500 speeches this week

Anonymous No. 16289692

>>16289652
>or if you have some valuable skills then you could probably become a slave to your rich overlords

Anonymous No. 16289694

>>16289663
Biden and musk are USA lunar landing posting today and you guys are blackpilling

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Anonymous No. 16289696

>>16289671
It's just ITAR being inconsistent. We've seen much clearer views of this section before.

Anonymous No. 16289697

https://x.com/WarPath2pt0/status/1814647579340128305

Anonymous No. 16289698

>>16289692
even if you became an indentured servant I'm pretty sure they would let you leave
you would just have debt
assuming AI and robots don't make western countries semi-post scarcity or something but that would take time in any case

Anonymous No. 16289699

>>16289696
hol up why are they building the same rocket again?

Anonymous No. 16289702

>>16289698
We're already arguably post-scarcity.

Anonymous No. 16289704

>>16289702
Far from it dweeb, it costs me $200 USD to go restock my pantry with necessities

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R

Anonymous No. 16289708

>>16289704
>necessities
you can feed yourself for much cheaper if you just lower your standards a little bit.

Anonymous No. 16289712

>>16289708
We're not post-scarcity then.

Anonymous No. 16289713

>>16289708
Then it’s not post scarcity

Anonymous No. 16289714

>>16289708
still not cheap enough to be post-scarcity

Anonymous No. 16289717

>>16289714
bigot

Anonymous No. 16289719

>>16289679
Even if it started as a "company town" there would still be the wives and children of employees, and then retirees and anyone who quit but wanted to stay. Pretty soon there would be a sizable non-employee population even if there was never anyone who paid to go.

Anonymous No. 16289720

>>16289694
>biden
>posting
come on, man
let's not discuss fantasy

Anonymous No. 16289721

Manned space exploration is hardly gonna happen before we reach singularity

Anonymous No. 16289723

I think that Eager posts here

Anonymous No. 16289724

>>16289704
Yeah, but you could get that food for free (and probably more) from a combination of SNAP and food pantries

Anonymous No. 16289726

>>16289705
me, helping out after someone says nigga

Anonymous No. 16289729

>>16289724
The same goes for housing but why are we now judging societies’s progress from the benchmark of our bottom-of-the-barrel social programs? Textbook earther move here

Anonymous No. 16289731

>not buying bags of flour in the bulk and then cooking it in water and eating it
you guys are paying and order of magnitude more for your food than you should.

Anonymous No. 16289736

>>16289729
It's not a question of standards. It doesn't count as "scarcity" if someone is merely too proud, ashamed or lazy to take free things.

Anonymous No. 16289737

>>16289729
If anything, the fact that people turn down free housing and food proves we ARE in a post scarcity society.

Anonymous No. 16289739

>>16289736
>>16289737
These are not offerings intended to be given to everyone, opposed to something like say UBI.
Look at the median/mode standard of living on Earth

Anonymous No. 16289740

>>16289731
I lived on rice, eggs and multivitamins for a time, and for another short period it was just milk and coffee powder.

I prefer not being poor, though.

Anonymous !5o/rIrnqRk No. 16289741

Test

Anonymous No. 16289743

>>16289741
You failed

Anonymous No. 16289746

>>16289741
You're still gay

Anonymous No. 16289749

>>16289739
>Look at the median/mode standard of living on Earth
We're talking about countries such as Germany now. Countries which can produce cheap abundant food.

>>16289740
Wish I could have the willpower to quit my consoomeristic diet and feed myself kinda like you did. Why the multivitamins though?

Anonymous No. 16289759

>>16289749
I was not confident that rice and eggs alone would be enough to prevent vitamin deficiency.

Anonymous No. 16289767

>>16289696
MOOOOOOOOODS

Anonymous No. 16289768

>>16289622
>Please NASA give me more money for my mars dreams!!

Why dont he just spend his money? He said he will send a red dragon to mars like 10 years ago, and now we got falcon heavy and dragon he wont do shit because JPL didnt give him a coin, what a fraud, first show us to can reach the moon and stop talking

Anonymous No. 16289772

>>16289696
How to we convince Tim Dodd to release the unredacted version of the Starbase tour.

Anonymous No. 16289786

What do we make of all the different types of non-chemical rocket engines?

Anonymous No. 16289788

>>16289645
>what is convergent evolution
I have faith there will be sexy alien women worth fucking. For the human form is the ideal for spacefaring civilizations

Anonymous No. 16289792

Reminder that animals without wings will be inferior in low g scenarios.

Anonymous No. 16289802

>>16289768
not what he said and he will spend his own money
it wasn't about JPL giving him money, it was JPL blacklisting him from all future contracts if they did the project
so this is not so much NASA giving Musk money as it is NASA not getting assdamaged and starting to obstruct Musk
SpaceX will have more free cash flow from Starlink soon than what NASA yearly budget is

Anonymous No. 16289816

>>16289574
>EV
GM leads the EV!
>Rural internet
We have no highspeed internet!
>Spaceflight
ULA leads the way!

What is this called? Musk derangement syndrome?

Anonymous No. 16289834

>>16289792
titanmaxxing by flapping my wingsuit and flying around the entire moon with minimal energy

Anonymous No. 16289837

>>16288651
maybe the boys in the striped pajamas were the friends we made along the way?

Anonymous No. 16289847

>>16289768
>red dragon
Senator Shelby threatened to withhold all NASA money if Elon did that, because it would require the Falcon Heavy to demonstrate the same capabilities as the SLS. He's retired now but all their efforts are going to Starship so it isn't happening

Anonymous No. 16289852

New steve1989 vids today. Got me thinking. What are they going to eat on the mars trip? Surely not astronaut individually packaged food like on the ISS right? They have extra space for more advanced cooking methods. Steam ovens? Microwaves? Will they eat different stuff on mars?

Anonymous No. 16289856

What would NASA even do without spacex?

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>>16289852

Anonymous No. 16289859

>>16289385
>old eager space intro
fucking hell I hope not

Anonymous No. 16289860

>>16289852
Crummy United States Meals Ready to Eat.
There will probably be a fridge / freezer of some sort but fresh ingredients will likely be used first, then you go to MREs until your next shipment arrives from Urf

Anonymous No. 16289861

>>16289469
This almost put me to sleep, plumbing and fluids and valves and shit is by far the most boring part of rocketry holy fuck

Anonymous No. 16289862

>>16289852
bugs

Anonymous No. 16289863

>>16289857
>>16289860
Nah. They totally have time to rehydrate freeze dried stuff. MREs aren't meant for longtime consumption anyway (blocks you up)

Anonymous No. 16289865

>>16289792
Birds require gravity to swallow and may die of suffocation or starvation in lower gravity. Genuinely sorry to break it to you

Anonymous No. 16289866

>>16289816
Musk avoidant syndrome

Honestly makes me want Trump to win almost cause you just know Biden will come down even harder on Musk in response to his $45 million monthly donations to him

Anonymous No. 16289868

>>16289788
Same actually, aliens that look more like humans/Asari will be easier to get along with I think

Anonymous No. 16289871

>>16289856
Putin would start charging $200-300 million per ISS ride

Anonymous No. 16289873

>>16289802
>>16289847
Muskrat are really stupid, i am really interested how you guys gonna cope when in 5-6 years not even HLS is done

Anonymous No. 16289877

>>16289873
What's your problem faggot we both explained why it didn't happen

Anonymous No. 16289886

>>16289861
>plumbing and fluids and valves and shit is by far the most boring part of rocketry
when you take out plumbing and fluids and valves what the fuck is left?

Anonymous No. 16289887

>>16289886
I meant spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16289888

>>16288727
Really should just boost it to a higher orbit. NASA is run by jews that are trying to destroy the wests greatest monuments yet again.

Anonymous No. 16289897

>>16289886
Fire, smoke, and Delta-V

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>>16289096
The sunsets on Mars is blue, would be pretty cool to see for real

Anonymous No. 16289923

>>16289298
Did producing that paper cost millions of dollars and take 5 years, too? Why should we care what they say anymore?

Anonymous No. 16289933

>>16289897
>no fluids
>fire and smoke
okay

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Anonymous No. 16289935

>>16289474
Astronauts should really be bluecollar oil-rig workers.

The real reason they have 6 PhDs is because they want them to be careerists who stick to the script and be married to NASA. So nobody reveals the classified stuff, or the bureaucratic grifts, or the big fuckups.

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Anonymous No. 16289940

>>16289933
What's the matter Anon? Never heard of solid fuel rockets before?

Anonymous No. 16289947

>>16289645
I think there's a small chance that alien females could be sexy

Consider that alien life may not even look that strange and could be surprisingly earth like. If the environment isn't that different, and they are carbon based, life could develop in a similar way to earth, like a broad application of convergent evolution. Even aliens in fiction aren't that alien, we just use earth's ocean life as an inspiration for land dwelling aliens, because ocean creatures are the strangest point of reference we have. In reality, something mammal-like could be common as far as alien life is concerned.

Then consider that primates and hominids are especially prone to develop intelligence because they are physically capable of tool use.

The final piece of the puzzle is beauty. I think our intellect gave us an enhanced perception of beauty, which is more universal than we think. We then used that perception of beauty in the process of sexual selection, which is why humans are by far the best looking primates. An intelligent species of sexually reproducing aliens may produce offspring that are palatable to us for this reason. Imagine an alien race capable of painting themselves or carving marble statues of themselves equal to earth's masters. It's actually hard to imagine they could be that ugly.

Anonymous No. 16289948

>houthis promising a major attack on israel soon
we ready for more missile intercepts in space kino?

Anonymous No. 16289955

>>16289625
Sam Harris has always been a clown bullshit artist, its good that his terminal TDS has finally revealed this to more people.

Anonymous No. 16289957

>>16289947
>I think there's a small chance that alien females could be sexy
The human body plan is the superlative vessel to house intelligence. Furthermore, all intelligent life is made in God's image.

Anonymous No. 16289960

>>16289645
All they really need is a slimey hole of the right size

Anonymous No. 16289961

>>16289957
irrelevant, we're talking about women

Anonymous No. 16289962

>>16289947
I hope they look like Asari and Twi'leks

Anonymous No. 16289963

>>16289625
Good for him. Most of us don't have the luxury of cutting out all the garbage people out of our lives.

Anonymous No. 16289965

>>16289961
Any species with internal gestation of young and a bipedal stature will need wider hips to bear them, so that's at least one highly probable secondary sexual characteristic that would carry over in females.

Anonymous No. 16289970

I have been wondering, how true is it that someone born and raised on the Moon would actually reach monstruously tall sizes? Because it seems like an extrapolation from the idea that gravity pushes us down, anyone know any related studies?

Anonymous No. 16289975

>>16289970
How the fuck would we know until it happens

Anonymous No. 16289978

So why did Biden cancel VIPER?

Anonymous No. 16289979

>>16289948
Not spaceflight sub 100 km fuck off back to >>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16289980

>>16289978
Back to >>>/pol/ you brownoid thirdie

Anonymous No. 16289981

>>16289933
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyl-terminated_polybutadiene

Anonymous No. 16289983

>>16289975
Well, taking into account the many times I have read it I thought it was an idea with some degree of rigour.

Anonymous No. 16289988

>>16289981
>Scroll down
>The land speed record attempt Bloodhound SSC was to have used HTPB with a high-test peroxide oxidizer, but that plan was altered in 2017.

That would have been a very expensive way to commit suicide

Anonymous No. 16289991

>>16289988
No guts no glory.

Anonymous No. 16289993

>>16289978
He hates space. That's why we must vote Trump in November, to Make America Great Again!

Anonymous No. 16289996

>>16289980
Nice deflection, but you didnt answer my question

Anonymous No. 16290010

>>16289978
He is a nuclearchad who knew that $600 mil+ for a shitty rover is GAY and that it would ultimately be better to scrap the parts and send them on a nuclear SP lunar mission, which is happening anyways

Anonymous No. 16290015

>>16290010
But the money was already spent. Why are Democrats so wasteful

Anonymous No. 16290019

>>16290015
its somebody elses money so who cares
just increase the tax rate

Anonymous No. 16290035

>>16290010
Didnt his nuclear "chad" get arrested for dressing up as women and stealing their underwear and is now in rehab for mental illness?

Anonymous No. 16290047

>>16289957
>Furthermore, all intelligent life is made in God's image.
If by some miracle we find sexy aliens. That alone will make me a firm believer in God.

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Anonymous No. 16290048

For those interested /sci/ plays /sp/ in the summer cup today >>16290008

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Chinese scientists propose information superhighway between Earth and the moon
>The full network of 30 satellites and three lunar ground stations would provide real-time communication, navigation and monitoring services to global users
>it would be able to monitor and track moving targets as small as one metre (3.28 feet) in the region between the Earth and the moon, known as cislunar space
>“The competition for resources such as orbital slots and radio frequencies is already on, and will only get more intense in the future. There’s an urgent need for China to establish a top-level road map to develop cislunar space infrastructure and gain a competitive edge in the emerging cislunar economy.”
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3270910/chinese-scientists-propose-information-superhighway-between-earth-and-moon

US Prepares Jamming Devices Targeting Russia, China Satellites
>The terminals “are small, transportable and low-cost satellite communications jammers that can be deployed in austere environments to protect” US forces
>The first 11 of 24 Remote Modular Terminal jammers will be deployed in several months, and all of them could be in place by Dec. 31 at undisclosed locations
>The new terminals augment a much larger jamming weapon called the Counter Communications System that’s already deployed and a mid-sized one called Meadowlands “by providing the ability to have a proliferated, remotely controlled and relatively relocatable capability,”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-19/us-space-force-prepares-jammers-to-blunt-russia-china-satellites
https://archive is/goyl7

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Anonymous No. 16290055

>>16290051

Anonymous No. 16290061

>>16289933
>>16289940
look at all that solid exhaust, dumbass

Anonymous No. 16290063

>>16290048
fuck off
not elon
not science
not spaceflight
not math
not even engineering

Anonymous No. 16290064

>>16290051
>TWO geostationary space stations
>two satellites in NHRO to maintain a continuous eye on Gateway

Anonymous No. 16290066

>>16290063
von Braun and Elon are on the team, you no fun having fag

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Anonymous No. 16290068

>security officer - night shift
It's our time to shine

Anonymous No. 16290070

>>16290048
>not elon
He's on the team as "Apsie African."

Anonymous No. 16290076

>>16290061
Oh, are we going extra smartass and using the mathematical treatment of gasses as fluids, now?

Anonymous No. 16290120

>>16290076
>are we going extra smartass and using the mathematical treatment of gasses as fluids
>/sci/ - Science & Math

Anonymous No. 16290122

>>16290063
lurk more fag, this has been going on for years

Anonymous No. 16290123

>>16290120
There's regular conversational parlance and there's mathematical rigor. This conversation has fuck-all math.

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>>16290076

Anonymous No. 16290127

>>16290123
>regular conversational parlance
so you're saying you just talk like a fucking retard all the time?

Anonymous No. 16290129

>>16290127
Of course I do. Where do you think we are?

Anonymous No. 16290131

>>16290129
touche

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Anonymous No. 16290133

Even solids can be made fluid. Therefore I refer to everything as a fluid.

Anonymous No. 16290137

>>16290068
>thinking you'd ever pass a security check

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Anonymous No. 16290143

Why is Polaris so dim right now? It's so dim I may as well not even register it on my star map. I'm standing on a hill a few kilometers outside Warsaw and the only stars I can really make out right now are Vega, Deneb (pictured r/l), Altair just below, and Arcturus towards the city.

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>>16290122
>>16290066
we're up

Anonymous No. 16290150

>>16290143
Can you see it with the naked eye? I can see it pretty well from the middle of Houston at night, even with the insane light pollution. Granted, it isn’t the brightest star in our sky. But for comparison I usually see sirius, altair, deneb, etc very clearly.
Could be a cloud or something?

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>>16290150
>Can you see it with the naked eye
If the hint of yellow I am seeing is Polaris, then just barely visible enough to try and line up on the chart. The light pollution here must have gotten even worse since they began mass adoption of LED street lamps. It's humid but there are no clouds to speak of right now. Sirius is not visible here at this time of the year, its below my feet.

I need to go back to the Carpathian mountains or to West Pomerania for another comparison.

Anonymous No. 16290154

According to what I am reading, Saturn should be brighter than Polaris tonight (0.9 magnitude vs 2.0).

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Anonymous No. 16290157

somebody bought and gifted him a blue checkmark
lol he's mad

Anonymous No. 16290166

>>16290157
lmaoo based

Anonymous No. 16290168

>>16290157
Heh I thought he was going to just ignore it. I saw someone just did it for CSS as well.

Anonymous No. 16290171

>>16290157
that's fucking hilarious.
seethe little man, seethe.

Anonymous No. 16290174

>>16290157
He gets alot of cool perks though, he should use them befoe he loses it

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Anonymous No. 16290182

How come Elon an atheist is able to visit the Pope but me a Catholic can't go see the Pope?

Anonymous No. 16290184

>>16290182
The Pope is also an atheist. Francis doesn't want anything to do with weirdo theists.

Anonymous No. 16290188

>>16290137
>Sir we have downloaded his 4chan posts and they are full of talk about genociding earthers with redirected asteroids
>He's perfect, get that man his gun

Anonymous No. 16290204

>>16290182
trust the plan, the conversion WILL happen. Many are saying space will be catholic.

Anonymous No. 16290208

>>16290157
faggot seething

Anonymous No. 16290210

https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1814792228025278791

Numale has a preview of a video hes working on

Anonymous No. 16290213

>>16290210
looks like shit, should've just been Apollo 11 patch logo merch

Anonymous No. 16290242

>>16290157
I will buy him another one as soon as this one is canceled

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Anonymous No. 16290248

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1814790937236718026

Anonymous No. 16290249

>>16290248
He's not going to win anyway

Anonymous No. 16290252

>>16290249
Never say never.

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Anonymous No. 16290254

>>16290252
You just said it

Anonymous No. 16290257

>>16290254
kek

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>>16290254

Anonymous No. 16290261

>>16290248
Well well well

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Anonymous No. 16290263

>>16290248
It's SO over for regulatorcels

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16290267

its now extremely prudent that Trump gets in I guess, if we want spaceflight and Mars/Moon base to accelerate

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16290268

>>16290263
Trumpamania finna get us back to the Moon by 2028

Anonymous No. 16290270

>>16290154
BUZZ LOOK A SATURN
WHERE
BAHHHHHH

Anonymous No. 16290271

>>16290157
>impossible
If he deleted his account, the blue checkmark would also be deleted

Anonymous No. 16290274

>>16290248
Based. He tells the truth.

Anonymous No. 16290276

>>16290271
I will be here waiting to encheck the new one.

Anonymous No. 16290280

>>16290263
most bs regulations are going out the window, their plan is to make America full on accelerationist nation again.

Anonymous No. 16290304

>>16289788
Alien women will definitely have booba. Milk is the perfect food, and necessary for developing big brains. The more intelligent the aliens, the bigger tits their females will have.

Anonymous No. 16290306

>>16290182
Pope knows about aliens. Elon knows about aliens. They met to talk about aliens.

Anonymous No. 16290309

>>16290182
Is the one with the long hair the tranny that got disowned?

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Anonymous No. 16290311

uran is pretty cool

Anonymous No. 16290312

>>16290157
>whore for Elon
ummm is he slut-shaming? Nothing wrong with being a SW

Anonymous No. 16290314

>>16290306
if Elon knew about Aliens then why is he so hellbent on Rocketry instead of pursing more exotic propulsion technologies?

Anonymous No. 16290315

>>16290267
Too bad Kamala is going to wipe the absolute floor with Orange Man

Anonymous No. 16290316

>>16290315
hehehehehuehueuheuhehuehuuueue

Anonymous No. 16290317

>>16290315
not sure about that, even Biden is smarter than her in brief moments where isn't acting all demented.

Anonymous No. 16290320

>>16290314
He knows which technosignatures herald instant annihilation via light speed black hole transit or local dimensional collapse

Anonymous No. 16290326

>>16289741
failed, you have to delete the contents of the name field to remove the tripcode

Anonymous No. 16290329

>>16289562
kek this isn't even true, is it? A cursory search shows that Spectrum is already connecting homes. Hope Carr is getting good money from SpaceX at least

Anonymous No. 16290331

>>16290174
looks like he's already "lost it", lel

Anonymous No. 16290350

>>16290315
>Last minute change
>To a candidate who couldn't win a debate in her own primary last time so they had to force her through

Anonymous No. 16290356

>>16290248
Haha love Trump and Elon. MAGA

Anonymous No. 16290371

>>16290314
Knowing about aliens doesn't mean having their technology, *obviously*. Rocket technology works today. Exotic propulsion might take decades or centuries to figure out.

>>16290320
And that too.

Anonymous No. 16290387

>>16290314
The aliens are the ones who told him that non-chemical propulsion to orbit is big gay

Anonymous No. 16290390

aliens are the ones building spacex rockets and buildings

Anonymous No. 16290392

>>16289852
does nasa still refuse to test cooking methods?
last i heard anything involving heat is an instant no

Anonymous No. 16290403

tomorrow is going to be a busy day

Anonymous No. 16290408

Well, new heatshield is done. Didn't people say it would take months to finish retiling the new heatshields? Why are there always these losers?

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>>16290392
America once again lagging behind

Anonymous No. 16290412

>>16290408
too be fair it did take a while

Anonymous No. 16290421

>>16290412
39 days is months. Always the laggards

Anonymous No. 16290422

>>16290409
Based taikonauts enjoying their cat innards grill and soju while shartonauts are chewing their cold reconstituted bean paste washed down by recycled piss water.

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Anonymous No. 16290427

>>16289852
Bruh that Chinese space MRE was NASTY, that can of cuttlefish ball things in juice had me gagging. The packaging was kino though.

Anonymous No. 16290428

>>16290426
UUUOOHHHHHH STARSHIP TUMMY EROTIC ToT

Anonymous No. 16290432

>>16290409
this how you deal with space rats watch and learn erong ma

Anonymous No. 16290451

>>16289723
>I think that Eager posts here
He was the /sfg/ Solar Chad™ from a couple of years ago

Anonymous No. 16290463

>>16290451
Based solar chad, nuclearcels malding

Anonymous No. 16290473

hey guys,im back on /sfg/ after 6 years. how is bfr coming along?

Anonymous No. 16290480

>>16290473
Approximately 2 more weeks

Anonymous No. 16290502

>>16290426
Man starship has such a great presence.

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>>16289947
>Imagine an alien race capable of painting themselves or carving marble statues of themselves equal to earth's masters.

Anonymous No. 16290511

>>16290509
Makes me seethe to this day how bad they fumbled the kino potential of this

Anonymous No. 16290540

You guys see the hbo doc shitting on astra?

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Anonymous No. 16290542

>>16290540

Anonymous No. 16290550

>>16290511
yeah, I had high hopes for Prometheus, couldn't wait to see it, and then rolled my eyes so much while watching it I came out dizzy

Anonymous No. 16290563

https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/1814851201969856648
>I've heard a lot about dire NASA funding wedges, and almost nothing about NASA's ongoing catastrophic productivity collapse. I worked there for four years and the only times I got in trouble (coaching conversation with manager's manager or higher) was when I made the mistake of putting into writing ways I had found of saving significant sums of money.

Anonymous No. 16290568

>>16290563
The post is longer, but if this is true then it seems like there are a shitload of "low hanging fruit" technology cost wise in the areas NASA is the only "provider" now
Sinply making them focus on science might not be enough

Anonymous No. 16290573

>>16290563
Defund or abolish NASA

Anonymous No. 16290574

>>16290563
>>16290568
>NASA is an incompetent tax subsidy for brown people, trannies, assorted faggots and military industrial complex grifters

More news at 11!

Anonymous No. 16290592

>>16289612
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1814881735382880496
>I literally have zero interests Russia. Tesla has no operations there, SpaceX directly competes with Russia for space launch and Starlink is a key asset of Ukraine.

>Sam Harris is a pompous hypocrite (writes book about how lying is terrible and then advocates lying to keep Trump from being elected) who is visibly and audibly detached from reality. How far he has fallen.

Anonymous No. 16290593

>>16290542
FUCK OFF PEDO

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>>16290542
What is he supposed to be holding? A pringle? feather?

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Anonymous No. 16290602

>>16290593
I'm going nowhere

Anonymous No. 16290606

>>16290602
so the anti-anime schizo was right?
another conspiracy theory confirmed

Anonymous No. 16290622

>>16290426
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1814860386442559838
>Starship 30 with a new improved heatshield has been lifted onto the static fire transport stand tonight for movement to Massey's test site tomorrow.
>7/20/24

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Anonymous No. 16290652

https://ringwatchers.com/article/s30-tps

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>>16290652

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>>16290542

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Anonymous No. 16290672

>>16290652
underlayment, areas with the new black felt also have the old white felt on top of that

Anonymous No. 16290677

>>16290672
>more heat shield
Why don't they just go ass first while burning an engine like the booster?

Anonymous No. 16290678

>>16290677
suborbital speed vs orbital speeds

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>>16290563
https://x.com/ashleevance/status/1814896275328045083

Anonymous No. 16290682

>>16290606
At the very least there is a serious miswiring of the brain if they have the urge to convert everything, including men, to women.

Anonymous No. 16290685

>>16290677
even if that worked, the engines would need to stay on for way too long.

Anonymous No. 16290698

>>16290664
>ablative
So much for reusability

Anonymous No. 16290707

>>16290698
???
it's a backup in case the main system fails.
they'll probably reduce and eventually remove it as they fly more and the main shield gets more reliable.

Anonymous No. 16290711

why isn't the other chopstick arm getting upgraded?

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Anonymous No. 16290714

>>16290672
At this point just cover the whole thing in tiles

Anonymous No. 16290721

I FUCKING HATE HEAT SHIELDS

Anonymous No. 16290724

>>16290721
Hybrid metallic TPS / methane sweat cooling.
Install once, never have to worry about your TPS ever again. You take a small but pretty much insignificant mass penalty.

Anonymous No. 16290725

>>16290714
get that ugly NASA log off there
fuck NASA

Anonymous No. 16290804

>>16290563
>$250M project projecting towards $600M
YIKES. No wonder VIPER was cancelled

Anonymous No. 16290810

>>16289612
>Sam Harris
Trump Derangement Syndrome
Vax Nut
Musk Derangement Syndrome
>Anne Applebaum
CIA asset
Warmongerer (Iraq/Ukraine)
Discrediting Hunter Biden laptop story
Discrediting Nord Storm bombing as "russian"
Also boardmember for "Global Disinformation Index" which runs to discredit any conservative talking point and prop up Leftist talking points

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Anonymous No. 16290846

>>16290426
>>16290622
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1815022091948761168
>A wider view of Starship 30 at Massey's test site this morning on the static fire test stand.
>7/21/24

Anonymous No. 16290847

so the booster had a static fire and soon the ship is going to static fire too
a week or two until IFT-5?

Anonymous No. 16290849

>>16290847
ift 5 in 13 to 15 days, exclusive

Anonymous No. 16290857

>>16290847
dos semanas

Anonymous No. 16290884

>>16290563
Based handjob.

Anonymous No. 16290891

Has the VIPER matter been discussed?

Anonymous No. 16290893

it continues...

>The Israeli military said its Arrow 3 missile defence system had shot down a surface-to-surface missile projectile launched from Yemen on Sunday before it crossed into Israeli territory.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-says-it-intercepts-missile-fired-yemen-houthis-say-they-targeted-eilat-2024-07-21/

arrow 3 is used to intercept targets in space
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_3

Anonymous No. 16290898

>falcon 9 flights got delayed until next week
boring

Anonymous No. 16290905

>>16290847
August 15

Anonymous No. 16290907

>>16290898
when is FAA gonna clear Falcon 9

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Anonymous No. 16290911

>>16290907
two weeks

Anonymous No. 16290912

>>16290907
never. it's over for hack fraud scamlon husk

Anonymous No. 16290922

I've been told that Elon and the entire Starlink team is freaking out. This incident has been a major wake up call over their sole reliance on the Falcon 9 and have begun exploring other launch options. They've already contracted ULA to launch Starlinks instead of the mass simulator on the next Vulcan.

Anonymous No. 16290930

>>16290390
no es verdad

Anonymous No. 16290932

>>16290665
i like her boobs and attitude

Anonymous No. 16290934

>>16290922
they could launch it on falcon heavy, its not grounded

Anonymous No. 16290940

>>16290550
>>16290511
film making is too important to be left to film makers

Anonymous No. 16290944

>>16290563
>>16290573
congress should pay elon directly with no middle man
$25 billion straight to elon's bank account, tax free every year until he asks for and receives more

Anonymous No. 16290947

>>16290944
kek

Anonymous No. 16290951

>>16290944
This is what Elon is doing for Trump except not every year but every month.

Anonymous No. 16290960

You Muskrat scum need to get a grip. SpaceX just got Fal-con 9 grounded with their awful ecoterrorist engineering and none of you say a thing? WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Anonymous No. 16290964

>>16290951
He's donating to a pro space super pac, but trump thinks it's directly to him, but thats ok. thats good that he thinks that

Anonymous No. 16290965

>>16290960
https://youtu.be/dNr7nXvntO8
no

Anonymous No. 16290970

My farts smell awful today

Anonymous No. 16290973

>>16290944
This is a good start but they need to grant Elon personal sovereignty over outer space and sole regulatory authority over space launches everywhere on Earth

Anonymous No. 16290998

>>16290944
make brownsville an autonomous USA territory with martial law under personal jurisidiction of Elon Musk

Anonymous No. 16291005

>>16290891
to death, I’m afraid

Anonymous No. 16291007

space colonization is the most important thing that civilization should be focused on, its more even more important than reversing climate change or mind uploading

Anonymous No. 16291012

>>16291007
wrong

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Anonymous No. 16291014

>>16290998

Anonymous No. 16291016

>>16291012
whats more important than space colonization? aka making sure civilization and life survives any number of likely imminent apocalyptic scenarios.

Anonymous No. 16291017

>>16291016
>making sure civilization and life survives any number of likely imminent apocalyptic scenarios
Why would you want this?

Anonymous No. 16291025

>>16291017
Because, we're life?

Anonymous No. 16291026

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/07/vast-space-station-roadmap-to-2030-and-beyond.html
1 more year bros

Anonymous No. 16291031

>>16291016
>whats more important than space colonization?
elon

Anonymous No. 16291032

>>16290563
It's generally understood that NASA is a pork funnel, but it is rarely, if ever, publicly discussed how it happens. The NASA OIG has constantly advocated for funding to be evaluated for performance, but time after time it is remarked that NASAs definition of performance differs significantly from business and legal contexts. The Mobile Launcher 2 contract has been a massive and ongoing shitshow but the OIG found it was NASA's inability to set requirements that causes most of its problems. They start programs without a goal and figure they can just amend their way to the final result.

Anonymous No. 16291035

>>16291016
Space colonization is that ultimate survival plan. We need to move from one planet to another. This isn't an option. Its not a backburner plan. Its the #1 priority for survival of our species today. Anyone that tries to slow down needs to be put down like the rabid dogs they are

Anonymous No. 16291038

>>16291032
Imagine you worked at a company with no customers and guaranteed funding. Your coworkers would murder you if you suggested that the organization should be accountable for how it spends money.

Anonymous No. 16291043

antinatalism is the way

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Anonymous No. 16291048

https://x.com/peterrhague/status/1815068520444575953

heard it here first, Musk is about to heist the whole solar system

Anonymous No. 16291052

total antinatalist death

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Anonymous No. 16291057

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815082747272081751

Anonymous No. 16291063

I'm gonna practise anti-antinatalism with your mom

Anonymous No. 16291064

>>16291048
Anti-human death cultists are unreal. Why dont they just commit sodoku and fuck off

Anonymous No. 16291066

Kelly '24
astronaut president

Anonymous No. 16291068

biden has officially withdrawn from the presidential race
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815080881981190320

he was okay for spaceflight aside from his EDS, so it makes me worried about who his replacement will be.

Anonymous No. 16291069

we need to fix our problems down here first( by using anti-natalism) before spreading the problems to the moon (we are the problem)

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Anonymous No. 16291070

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1815084815156498442

Anonymous No. 16291071

>>16291070
THEY'RE GOING

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>>16291070

Anonymous No. 16291073

>>16291068
He will leave with a legacy unmatched. The new president will be the democrat nominee. He will be a young likeable person and Trump won't be able to match him.

Anonymous No. 16291076

>>16291073
Pray tell me how a young nominee could find financial backers?

Anonymous No. 16291077

>>16291073
blew up the economy, let millions of illegals stream into the country, pushed DEI into everything making the competency crisis even worse, was such a weak leader that multiple wars were started, destroyed the publics trust in government through draconian policies during covid and general censorship and constant lying

Anonymous No. 16291079

>>16291068
They have three months to convince the country they are a serious, functioning party after eight years of demonstrating their utter incompetence. They are frantically rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. I hope they do seriously run Harris so we can see what a "glass cliff" actually looks like.

Anonymous No. 16291080

Biden to not seek reelection. Trump won.

Anonymous No. 16291081

That's insane.

Anonymous No. 16291084

Why is Elon such a retard?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815087759838806200

Anonymous No. 16291085

>>16291076
plenty of financial backers willing to finance anyone who is running against Trump

Anonymous No. 16291086

>>16291084
don't bother, not krystal.

Anonymous No. 16291089

>>16291026
>artificial gravity station
>2030
why has it taken the species this fucking long

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Anonymous No. 16291090

lmaooo
kamala fucking harris
its joever

Anonymous No. 16291092

we're in dire need of some launches, i'll even take suborbital at this point

Anonymous No. 16291093

>>16291084
Oh so now his age is irrelevant? It was actually the d33p state cronies pulling the strings!

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>>16291090
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933

grim as fuck but there's still hope since she has to be selected by the democrat party, just as trump was selected this week

Anonymous No. 16291098

It will be Kamala, not because they want her, but because the money already pledged and donated to Biden can only be used by her now, from a legal stand point. Too much chaos, if it's not her.

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>>16291094
didnt someone here say the other day that the ticket is going to be harris-kelly? if mark kelly is the vp and the vp is in charge of the national space council, then maybe there's a bright side to all of this.

Anonymous No. 16291101

>>16291098
She's an unpopular throwaway scapegoat

Anonymous No. 16291102

>>16291098
But I don't like her

Anonymous No. 16291103

>>16291098
Brokered convention. Obama people don't like kamala. Will be interesting

Anonymous No. 16291104

>>16291098
that's a myth

Anonymous No. 16291105

>>16291084
Was it so democratic when no one important run against Biden in their 2024 primaries because of party discipline?

Anonymous No. 16291106

>>16291103
>The 2024 Democratic National Convention is scheduled to take place from August 19-22, 2024 in Chicago, Illinois. This will mark the first time Chicago has hosted the Democratic National Convention since 1996.

Anonymous No. 16291108

We know how fond Elon is of Putin these days; he's even repeating Putin's final solution plans for Crimea and Ukraine on Twitter without being asked, probably believing Putin revealed them to him because Putin considers him an important world leader. This thing is about egos and ideology. Musk actually likes Putin and Medvedev because he thinks they're "based" and "tough" and he considers them allies in his fight against liberal "wokists", who in Musk's view destroy everything. And Putin knows this, and he's spurring it on. Putin is Ex-KGB, he knows how to work gullible fools. Injecting distrust and division into western societies is Putin's number one goal, and manipulable narcissists like Musk are a perfect vehicle for that. That's what's happening here. Not business interests.

Anonymous No. 16291110

didn't ask

Anonymous No. 16291112

>>16291085
lmao

Anonymous No. 16291113

>>16291108
Go eat some more lead

Anonymous No. 16291114

anyone else have this box set growing up and watch the fuck out of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkZvpq1IZ0

Anonymous No. 16291115

>>16291113
He probably shouldn't, that looks like the problem he has in the first place.

Anonymous No. 16291117

>>16291113
coherent argument

Anonymous No. 16291121

It's afraid. No longer a slam dunk.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815091075431678146

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Anonymous No. 16291122

Faggots who keep posting unrelated news. What is the thrust to wight ration of the articles you posted?

Anonymous No. 16291124

>>16291084
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1815088145051873756
I don't think he's the retard

Anonymous No. 16291126

>>16291122
Musk has made it related by heavily backing one candidate with his platform, words, and money. Should a democrat win they could fuck him over even more in retaliation.

Anonymous No. 16291127

>>16291124
Yeah totally not a puppet bro. He's your run of the mill president.

Anonymous No. 16291128

>>16291105
JFK ran. He was banned and excluded entirely. Its entirely undemocratic

Anonymous No. 16291130

>>16291126
yeah I really REALLY don't get why he thinks its smart to be a MAGAtard all of a sudden. If the Dems win, his reputation and ability to make progress is fucked

Anonymous No. 16291131

>>16291124
Did Elon sleep through Trump's first presidency?

Anonymous No. 16291132

https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1814946723921367334

China's mars sample return project

Anonymous No. 16291135

it's stupid how even smart people like musk are tricked by the 'homeless people near my place of business = I must vote for Rs' schtick

Anonymous No. 16291136

>>16291126
Elon Musk has made a gamble so to speak and he will either win or lose a lot. Thoughts?

Anonymous No. 16291137

>>16291132
First to dark side of the moon
First to return sample from the dark side of the moon
First to return sample from Mars possibly

Anonymous No. 16291139

>>16291136
the problem is he's dipped his toes too deep into the moron tub, I worry he'll scream stolen election if Trump wins

>>16291137
*FAR side of the moon you spacelet

Anonymous No. 16291140

>>16291126
There are a dozen or so lawsuits filed against his companies by democrats right now.

Anonymous No. 16291141

>>16291092
Nothing ever happens, and when something happens anyway, we pay it by even more nothing happening afterwards.

Anonymous No. 16291142

>>16291092
FAA grounded Falcon9. We've lost the weekly candence.

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Anonymous No. 16291145

guys look!

Anonymous No. 16291146

>>16291068
>he was okay for spaceflight
was he?
I really can't think of anything positive I could point to beside commending for *not* cancelling everything Bridenstine and Trump had started.

Anonymous No. 16291147

>>16291068
Byeden

Anonymous No. 16291148

>>16291081
Yeah

Anonymous No. 16291149

>>16291068
I enjoyed when the boden admin sued spacex for being racist and not hiring more non-americans

Anonymous No. 16291150

>>16291145
Even 4chan is participating in the defaming of Musk's image now.

Anonymous No. 16291151

>>16291084
He's so retarded he's worth $244 billion. God I wish I was retarded

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>>16291145
I have adblock specifically so I don't have to look.
Companies do not have my consent to advertise at me.

Anonymous No. 16291154

>>16291104
no problem!
so are most democrat voters

Anonymous No. 16291155

>>16291151
You can be smart at one thing and retarded at another

Anonymous No. 16291156

That one of the richest people alive wants to shut Sam down makes me want to hear Sam more.

Anonymous No. 16291157

>>16291156
sam who?'
is this some EDS schizo shit again?

Anonymous No. 16291158

>>16291135
Elon is an empiricist
Of course he would act based on observations

Anonymous No. 16291159

Elon has forgotten that it was the Obama-Biden administration that bailed out Tesla in 2009 during the financial crisis.

Anonymous No. 16291163

>>16291135
those are the direct result of democrat policies

Anonymous No. 16291166

>>16291159
so what? Biden has been nothing but hostile

Anonymous No. 16291170

>>16291159
They were bailing out everyone back then, they had bailout fever.

Anonymous No. 16291173

Tourist trap derives from the information asymmetry between tourists and the market.

Anonymous No. 16291174

>>16291105
It's an unwritten rule in every democratic nation that you don't run against the current president if he is from your party. Dunno why but probably to stop discord that could make voters lose confidence.

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Anonymous No. 16291175

>>16291173

Anonymous No. 16291180

>president is literally senile and has been senile even before he became president
>noo muh democracy!
why are americans (both Ds and Rs) so mentally ill? and why are you even talking about this shit in a thread dedicated to space flight?

go back to >>>/pol/ you fuckers.

Anonymous No. 16291184

>>16291180
space is inherently connected to politics since a government agency (NASA) is the principle driving force behind the most important space project at the moment (Artemis) which hinges on exec branch support

Anonymous No. 16291185

>>16291180
non-Americans have no place in spaceflight
you are off topic

Anonymous No. 16291187

>>16291090
kamala is a horrible choise :D

Anonymous No. 16291188

>>16291185
more than half the posters in this thread are foreigners.

Anonymous No. 16291190

>>16291100
is mark kelly old space or new space?

Also why does he get 3 space sybians?

Anonymous No. 16291192

>>16291188
If they had anything of value to contribute to spaceflight they would have already moved to America.

Anonymous No. 16291196

>>16291156
what are you talking about? Anyway if you listen to sam you'll want to listen to sam less.

Anonymous No. 16291199

>>16291190
kelly is sane and smart and knows how to play the politics game. He was the pilot on shittle Return To Flight.
He was an independent before being a D for Arizona.
Would be a fine component POTUS, and would hopefully break us out of this blizzaro politics environment and get the Rs back to running normal people like McCains

Anonymous No. 16291202

>>16291180
sorry we don't know what its like to live in a country where you don't get a cool space program no matter who you pick

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Anonymous No. 16291203

>>16291156
Pajama Sam?

Anonymous No. 16291204

>>16291196
I already listen to him and he's pretty based. He even stands on the right side of the race and IQ controversy.

Anonymous No. 16291210

>>16291199
Imagine a President whose primary interest for his four (or eight) years in office was enhancing America's presence in space and doing everything possible to expand human settlement off-world.

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stage
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Anonymous No. 16291213

>>16291211
terrible OP

Anonymous No. 16291228

>>16291211
FAA here, I'm grounding this thread until someone makes a new one

Anonymous No. 16291235

>>16291157
Sam Hyde. Bill Gates wants to shut him down for speaking the truth

Anonymous No. 16291237

>>16291159
And you forgot Tesla paid back in full with interest within few years. Then Biden tried to kill Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, etc.

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Anonymous No. 16291241

>>16291228
I abide by the FAA's ruling

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permission to restage?

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>>16291243
permission granted

Anonymous No. 16291256

>>16291243
The longer you wait the worse it is

Anonymous No. 16291257

>>16291211
Activate FTS for this stage

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>>16291257
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stage eta 50 s

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passing max-qute

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CORRECTIVE STAGING INITIATED
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Anonymous No. 16291277

>>16291211
Warning to no go to this thread, go to this thread instead
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Anonymous No. 16291411

>>16291203
this was my favorite game as a kid

Anonymous No. 16291422

>>16291072
That is the coolest fucking thing ever. SOVLFVL

Anonymous No. 16291478

>>16291108
>putin is ex-KGB
he was a pencil pusher loser who hardly ever did anything important when he was in kgb lol, nobody cares, he's revealed himself just to be a gambler who got lucky for a while rather than some genius strategist.
also musk is not fond of putin at all, are you mad?

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