Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:51:52 UTC No. 16301042

>no astronauts who also have olympic medals

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:53:12 UTC No. 16301043

>>16301038
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:54:01 UTC No. 16301046

SPEHS

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:55:13 UTC No. 16301048

Could this work?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:56:50 UTC No. 16301051

>>16301038
How long until comfy satellite servicing space tug owner-operator becomes a profession?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:02:13 UTC No. 16301056

>>16301048
no lol

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:02:46 UTC No. 16301057

>>16301051
they are going to be autonomous so never
maybe a single person could control a fleet of them though

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:07:15 UTC No. 16301062

>>16301048
how much fun would it be doing a senior thesis that's just making a new rocket in kerbal

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:11:33 UTC No. 16301069

>>16301043
kek, fuck earthers

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:21:03 UTC No. 16301087

>>16301048
It's possible. Using an EDS as its own second stage to deliver itself empty to orbit is a bit of a trick, but the Ares V EDS should have had about 8 km/s of dV in the tank when it was fully fueled and carrying no payload, so getting into LEO after staging off of a 2011-era Falcon 9 Heavy is far from impossible. The real problem is getting the 250 tons of hydrolox up to the depot to refuel it once it's in orbit.

The real question is why would you want to. If the EDS has 8 km/s to work with and you're planning on refueling it from a depot, you'd be better off just launching that on its own with a few GEM-60s strapped to the side and forget trying to balance it on top of a Falcon.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:21:42 UTC No. 16301088

>>16301042
only because Jonny Kim doesn't want any olympic medals

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:25:18 UTC No. 16301097

Propellant Depot Requirements Study

Advantages
>Tens of billions of dollars of cost savings and lower up-front costs to fit within budget profile
>Allows first NEA/Lunar mission by 2024 using conservative budgets
>Launch every few months rather than once every 12-18 months
>Provides experienced and focused workforce to improve safety
>Operational learning for reduced costs and higher launch reliability.
>Allows multiple competitors for propellant delivery
>Competition drives down costs
>Alternatives available if critical launch failure occurs
>Low-risk, hands-off way for international partners to contribute
>Reduced critical path mission complexity (AR&Ds, events, number of unique elements)
>Provides additional mission flexibility by variable propellant load
>Commonality with COTS/commercial/DoD vehicles will allow sharing of fixed costs between programs and “right-sized” vehicle for ISS
>Reduces multi-payload manifesting integration issues

Issues
>Congressional language
>Requires longer storage of cryo propellants than alternatives and addition of zero-g transfer technologies
>Volume/mass constraints (e.g, fairing size)
>NASA loses some control/oversight
>Added complexity of common CPS/depot
>Launch capacity build-up
>Aligning LEO departure plane with departure asymptote location for small NEA departure windows given LAN precession

It's ridiculous that SLS offers no real advantages and congress still forced NASA to build it. It's expected that they care very little about space exploration, but it's downright sabotage. SLS is already a bottlenock, but it is not yet so apparent, because neither Starship or BO lander are ready. For the next decade or so NASA will be stuck at the rate of 1 mission every few years, or worse, depending on Boing's performance. That gives Chinese a huge opportunity to catch up and overtake NASA.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:42:49 UTC No. 16301113

>Former astronaut Sen. Mark Kelly started spy balloon company funded by China
>Before becoming a senator, Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., was not only an astronaut, but he also co-founded a company that specializes in spy balloons, which was funded, in part, by a venture capitalist in China with close ties to the Chinese Communist Party.
Is Kelly a foreign agent?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:43:53 UTC No. 16301116

>>16301038
>BASED Depot
uhh based?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:44:57 UTC No. 16301119

>>16301116
Yes, ACES based.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:46:43 UTC No. 16301122

>>16301113
I hear he's got an identical body double

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:50:27 UTC No. 16301128

>>16301113
He's more of a free agent. It's just that he was bought out best by foreign money

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:52:22 UTC No. 16301133

the real /sfg/ is here >>16291209
this thread is a spam thread

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:54:21 UTC No. 16301138

>>16301133
hmmm
no

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:07:25 UTC No. 16301147

>>16301133
hmmm
nyo

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:07:56 UTC No. 16301148

>>16301133
I'm not visiting your gay thread

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:08:16 UTC No. 16301150

>>16301133
Go fuck yourself.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:11:31 UTC No. 16301155

>>16301087
>The real problem is getting the 250 tons of hydrolox up to the depot to refuel it once it's in orbit.
Is it? In the study the depot was launched first, then refueled a few times with tankers that fit inside regular Falcon 9 fairing. After that EDS was launched, refilled at depot, docked with lander and capsule and burned towards Moon.

I'll try to find and post it later.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:16:25 UTC No. 16301161

>>16301133
Why does your thread always have poop eaters?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:27:46 UTC No. 16301174

>>16301116
LH2 is cringe

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:35:17 UTC No. 16301181

Nope, not gettin' out of this chair.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:41:27 UTC No. 16301191

>>16301113
half the people in congress are foreign agents, a few of them for China

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:58:04 UTC No. 16301211

Guys im a space nerd but if you think about, /spaceflight/ makes no sense, whats the point of sending plobes or humans beyond LEO? From what we know until now , the whole universe just sucks except planet earth, literally the flour under your feet are more interesting than any part of the solar system, why you want colonies on mars or the moon when theyre inert deserts because of the radiation and nothing else? And exoplanets? Too far away and intellestelar travel is impossible. There arent aliens either, probably they dont even exist and if they do, theyre too far away to cantact to them. I know were all very passionate about the space, but If you use your logic, were just wasting time and money for nothing valuable

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:00:08 UTC No. 16301215

>>16301133
Have fun in there

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:01:57 UTC No. 16301217

Which large solar system bodies do you think humans will ever land on?
this general takes it as a given that humans will step on mars some day. will anyone ever bother to set foot on oberon, or never in a million years even if we have the technology? will people ever go within the atmospheres of gas giants and live to tell the tale?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:05:23 UTC No. 16301222

>>16301217
Human landing on Phobos and/or Deimos

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:09:01 UTC No. 16301224

>>16301211
You stay here then, queer.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:11:45 UTC No. 16301225

>>16301217
The smaller shitbox moons will be dismantled

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:11:53 UTC No. 16301226

>>16301217
I believe in Venus, baby!!!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:16:53 UTC No. 16301229

earth is winning the olympics medals tally
other planets btfo
and it's only day 2

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:19:58 UTC No. 16301232

>>16301211
The accuracy with which you've imitated the subtleties of genuine engrish makes me concerned for your mental health

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:25:00 UTC No. 16301237

>>16301211
L becomes R, not the other way round. Retard

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:31:58 UTC No. 16301240

>>16301211
posts like yours are a diamond dozen on /sfg/
do better

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:43:54 UTC No. 16301252

>>16301113
Yes.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:44:24 UTC No. 16301256

>>16301237
I sat through a presentation at the IAC where a korean grad student told us about his team's research with locket plopellant.
That kid was so nervous he looked like he was going to sweat through his suit jacket.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:44:47 UTC No. 16301257

>>16301217
it's gonna be like mountains on urf. even if there is no practical reason to send anything but robots, someone will organize an expedition and spend years in transit, just so his name will be put down as "first man on X"

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:45:28 UTC No. 16301259

>>16301217
>>16301226
We will terraform-chill Venus and ranch dinosaurs on its surface.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:46:53 UTC No. 16301261

>>16301038
>it has a Marylin Monroe skirt

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:51:22 UTC No. 16301265

>>16301226
Venus cloud cities are bullshit no matter what way you look at it

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:53:54 UTC No. 16301267

>>16301259
you wanna go to venus, just to become a chicken farmer?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 01:56:20 UTC No. 16301271

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:00:32 UTC No. 16301277

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:09:42 UTC No. 16301287

>>16301267
Bigger scaly dinos.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:33:00 UTC No. 16301301

>>16301217
>ganymede and callisto are almost as big as mars
yeah its over, jupiter will be the second largest powerhouse in the solar system after earth. its not even close. mars will lucky to be 3rd.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:35:14 UTC No. 16301303

>>16301301
as it should be

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:36:37 UTC No. 16301307

>>16301301
>after earth
Earth will kneel to Lunar dominance

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:37:40 UTC No. 16301308

>>16301307
Luna is part of the Earthsphere
also the Jupitersphere will have dominance of Sol

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:43:02 UTC No. 16301311

>>16301256
That didn't happen

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:45:47 UTC No. 16301312

>flight 3 makes it to orbit
>flight 4 makes it to orbit
>elon says flight 5 starship has a 60% chance of surviving re-entry and the booster has a 50% chance of being caught (this is not relevant to the point I'm making)

at this stage why aren't they confident enough to send a starlink payload? They know that they're most likely going to achieve orbit

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:47:33 UTC No. 16301318

>>16301311
It happened at the 2016 IAC in Mexico

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:47:40 UTC No. 16301319

>>16301312
they need to do engine relights in orbit before they will be confident putting Starship in a stable orbit

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:59:28 UTC No. 16301320

>>16301267
They fear the Venusian chicken farmer

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:00:10 UTC No. 16301321

>>16301267
ORGAN FARMER
ORGAN FARMER

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:39:17 UTC No. 16301343

>>16301097
>NASA
SpaceX is profiting enough at this point that they don't need to worry about losing NASA contracts as a consequence of doing private exploration missions. There's going to be American flags on Mars without a NASA logo in sight. China has way too much engineering to catch up on

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:42:06 UTC No. 16301346

>>16301301
>jupiter will- ack!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:43:21 UTC No. 16301348

>>16301217
We should strap rockets to Venus and push it into the habitable zone

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:45:14 UTC No. 16301350

>>16301343
>There's going to be American flags on Mars without a NASA logo in sight

You're certified insane if you think they will let musk upstage NASA like that.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:53:03 UTC No. 16301357

>>16301346
Simply drain the radiation belt

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:55:18 UTC No. 16301359

https://x.com/Carbon_Flight/status/1817754775196201035
THEY ARE NOT STUCK, CHUDS!!!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 03:59:09 UTC No. 16301362

https://x.com/Kristennetten/status/1817655396385075357

50% chance of catching the booster on IFT-5
70% chance of heatshield surviving on the starship

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 04:02:10 UTC No. 16301364

>>16301357

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 04:42:14 UTC No. 16301408

>abi sending claire a rose
clabi bros we are so back

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 04:54:55 UTC No. 16301425

>>16301301
>ganymeme
lmao, good luck with that radiation, jupitard

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 05:39:57 UTC No. 16301460

>>16301359
If this were true, why do they frantically need to reassure us every minute? Should it not be self evident? Surely NASA has decided a return date for the crew

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 05:53:52 UTC No. 16301468

>>16301425
>>16301346
radiation is solvable. heavenly body size is not.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 06:12:43 UTC No. 16301485

>>16301408

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:23:55 UTC No. 16301528

Are we going?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:33:06 UTC No. 16301537

>>16301364
>>16301357
just build giant faraday cage grounded to aether to capture suns charged particles
radiation belts will dissipate over couple hundred years

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:55:41 UTC No. 16301556

>>16301116
Indeed

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:57:07 UTC No. 16301558

>>16301556

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:06:16 UTC No. 16301563

I think about Mars a lot.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:07:37 UTC No. 16301564

>>16301556
It sure is

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:08:38 UTC No. 16301565

>>16301116
Hello, depot department?
You're going to want to see this.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:09:39 UTC No. 16301567

>>16301217
Holy crap Mars is an undersized piece of shit

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:10:48 UTC No. 16301568

>>16301217
Venus is the real prize. Look at the size of it. There must be a way to unfuck it.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:43:54 UTC No. 16301591

>>16301567
it may be small but its still around the same landmass as earth

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:54:33 UTC No. 16301599

If they decided that those funny rocks on Mars actually have life on them, what would happen to Mars landings
>uh your giga rocket might damage important fossil records, so actually nobody is allowed to fly there until we study them with remote drones first

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:25:37 UTC No. 16301620

>>16301591
Until we flood half of it with water.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:26:37 UTC No. 16301622

>>16301568
>>16301348

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:27:53 UTC No. 16301624

>>16301217
I can say with certainty that humans will never land on Io. The radiation there is so bad it'll instantly kill you.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:29:17 UTC No. 16301626

>>16301567
It's actually the perfect size: enough gravity to make normal life functions possible, but cheap enough gravity tax to become the hub of humanities push into living fully in space.

>>16301568
Imagine escaping one gravity well just to throw yourself down an even deeper one.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:30:34 UTC No. 16301627

>>16301624
lead starships

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:33:22 UTC No. 16301628

>>16301568
Theres a couple options to unfuck venus but they both have pretty serious downsides.
Theres the solar shade option, basically shade venus until all the CO2 freezes out. Problem is now you have to get rid of a all the frozen somehow.
Then theres the seed with hydrogen option, this has the advantage that it creates an ocean that'll cover 80% of the planet. Downside is getting all that hydrogen to venus.
Unfucking venus is way harder than unfucking mars.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:34:22 UTC No. 16301629

>>16301627
>just add drymass!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:39:13 UTC No. 16301633

You know what you should do with this gey thread. Stop making it.

Kys now

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:42:15 UTC No. 16301634

>>16301599
As someone actually currently training to be a paleontologist such a concern is total bullshit. The fossil record on mars is probably extensive and even if starship kicks up some rocks theres still gonna be tons of fossil evidence. Not to mention that fossils are likely to only exist in former marine environments, so just don't land directly on a former marine environment.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:44:42 UTC No. 16301636

>>16301628
Build a giant solar death laser that just blasts all of its atmosphere away.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:47:25 UTC No. 16301638

>almost august
its been a rough year for spaceflight but we'll pull ahead if we keep fighting

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:49:05 UTC No. 16301639

>>16301636
Problem with that is now venus has no atmosphere.
And if you stop at about earth atmosphere it'll still be almost entirely CO2, which even if you can get life to convert it to oxygen will just leave a 100% oxygen atmosphere. We all should know the problem with that.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:49:18 UTC No. 16301640

>>16301634
Dude. If they find so much as a fossilised bacteria dung, the whole planet will be permanently off limits except for super duper contained science missions whose sole mission is trying to prove there is some kind of microbe somewhere and this will go on forever because the goalposts will just keep getting moved.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:50:28 UTC No. 16301641

>>16301636
I like your thinking, get it done.

>>16301639
>Problem with that is now venus has no atmosphere

Problem?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:51:16 UTC No. 16301642

>>16301639
Yeah but blasting it down until it would be about 1/5th of Earth's atmosphere in pure oxygen after conversion would make it much easier to deal with. At that point it'd only need to be given a bunch of nitrogen.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:55:14 UTC No. 16301643

>>16301642
It would be better to use the nitrogen thats there already. Not to mention this method makes no water which is vital if you can't change venus's rotation.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:57:13 UTC No. 16301644

>>16301643
>if you can't change venus's rotation.
The death laser can do that too.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:59:52 UTC No. 16301646

>>16301644
So versatile

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:01:16 UTC No. 16301648

>>16301644
I find it doubtful it can do that over geologic timescale, let alone a civilizational one.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:01:21 UTC No. 16301649

>>16301640
How are they gonna stop SpaceX?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:02:10 UTC No. 16301650

>>16301648
Bigger laser

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:02:27 UTC No. 16301651

>>16301648
Some anon here said that it could be done with a bunch of mirror satellites so a death laser could definitely do it too.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:03:50 UTC No. 16301653

>>16301649
>How is the government where a company runs from going to stop them from doing something?

Yeah you're right, how could they possibly do that.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:04:22 UTC No. 16301654

>>16301651
>an anonymous user on 4chan said it, I believe it, That settles it!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:07:56 UTC No. 16301658

>>16301640
just ignore the planetary protection retards
not only are they wrong but they are retarded
permanent habitation will mean much more extensive research than just one-off probes

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:08:23 UTC No. 16301660

>>16301599
This is why NASA is always pretending not to see obvious signs of life right in front of their eyes.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:08:56 UTC No. 16301661

>>16301653
that is where lobbying comes in
I don't think its going to be a problem

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:38:08 UTC No. 16301680

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:45:57 UTC No. 16301684

This 3D printed model of Starship really shows just how Space Shuttley it is becoming. Obviously many huge improvements over the Shuttle but still, visually it is starting to converge.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:51:29 UTC No. 16301688

>>16301684
Both are reusable orbital vehicles. Of course they're going to be similar in several respects.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:56:05 UTC No. 16301694

>>16301046
wheres the payload?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 11:56:53 UTC No. 16301696

>>16301684
Speaking of reusable vehicles, is there any news on jarvis? Is it still a starship ripoff?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:02:05 UTC No. 16301701

>>16301564
>>16301558
>>16301556
based valves dunking on shartliner

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:06:43 UTC No. 16301706

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:00 UTC No. 16301709

Blasting off the Venusian atmosphere seems ill advised. There must be another alternative to cooling it down and somehow sucking it back down into liquid form.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:48 UTC No. 16301711

>>16301660
based nasa
>ooo it could be life, we're just not sure, better give us billions of dollars to fund msr
>oh no the samples were inconclusive and we used them all up so you can't look yourselves. If you give us some more billions we can send some astronauts to look
and just keep doing that until mars has permanent settlements.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:14:16 UTC No. 16301716

>>16301696
everyone forgot about it
even Blue Origin

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:20:12 UTC No. 16301719

>this thing ws gonna cost 40 billion in dev and cost 1.6 billion per launch
How? How does just a shuttle srb cost more to develop than sls and cost half as much to launch?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:32:27 UTC No. 16301725

>>16301719
the costs expand to fill whatever price is politically feasible

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:33:08 UTC No. 16301726

Is it just me or does Antarctica with the ice melted off bear a striking resemblance to the terrain on Venus?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:42:39 UTC No. 16301741

>>16301726
It's just you.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:46:17 UTC No. 16301742

>>16301350
And the means which NASA and the wider government will use to prevent that upstaging is not to better than Musk and land on mars sooner; they will use regulations to prohibit him doing so, slowing down human progress in spaceflight.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:47:53 UTC No. 16301745

>>16301741
Heres a "realistic" map of terraformed mars from reddit in comparison.
However it's not realistic in the slightest because redditors are midwits.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:09:44 UTC No. 16301761

Launches this week
>JUL 30 - Atlas V / Space Force spysat
>JUL 30 - Electron / Japanese commercial radar
>AUG 02 - Falcon 9 / Starlink
>AUG 03 - Falcon 9 / Cygnus to ISS

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:17:30 UTC No. 16301770

>>16301719
Things the US government is great at: pooling resources and making next-to-impossible tech happen (a la Saturn V)

Things the US government sucks ass at: doing stuff “cheaply”

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:35:30 UTC No. 16301785

>>16299385
>>16299404

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1817914479809872202

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:36:44 UTC No. 16301786

>>16301785
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1817915736645407231

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:49:48 UTC No. 16301806

>>16301785
That's crazy

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:54:53 UTC No. 16301812

>>16301785
Thats
In
Saaaaaaaaane

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:56:31 UTC No. 16301813

>>16301563
My wife finally told me to stop talking about it all the time

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:57:48 UTC No. 16301815

>>16301217
Hmmm Titan. Look at all that nitrogen. I'd love to push it somewhere else

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 13:58:33 UTC No. 16301816

>>16301786
Only shop ULA Brand Memorabilia(tm).
Tory needs to eat too.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:02:15 UTC No. 16301822

>>16301745
https://x.com/terraformedmars
Some more accurate maps for those interested. Like, 7m resolution accurate

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:04:32 UTC No. 16301825

>>16301822
There might be enough crater lakes to keep the place green without a world circling ocean

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:14:04 UTC No. 16301834

>>16301822
While certainly better than the redditors take I still have problems with the greenery and weather patterns.
Like why does everyone of these simulations make a uniform green? Do they not even try to account for the tharsis rain shadow which is still visible on mars to this day? The east side should be drowning in water while the west side should be a desert. Not to mention the glaciers on the tharsis mountains are way too small for a world with this much water.
>>16301825
Thats not how moisture circulation works. If nothing forces moisture out of the air there then it won't fall and all those crater lakes will slowly drain.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:22:05 UTC No. 16301841

>>16301834
Realistically a civilization able to move teratons of nitrogen around the solar system would likely not find much challenge in moving water around a surface

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:24:21 UTC No. 16301843

>>16301815
Titan a fuck, Ganymede got that rizz fr
>>16301761
>Polaris Dawn delayed again for the sixtieth time
Never going to get leaked space orgy pics at this rate

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:25:06 UTC No. 16301845

>>16301841
You assume theres any value whatsoever in making the martian canals real.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:27:38 UTC No. 16301847

>>16301785
Some project manager thinks they're going to get promoted because they found a way to increase image license fees by 10000%. It doesn't matter if it is detrimental to the company as a whole, as long as they get to show that under their leadership, they made their little corner of the company more profitable.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:34:21 UTC No. 16301852

Instead of terraform other bodies in the solar system, why not bioform our bodies to be compatible with the incumbent conditions on those heavenly bodies?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:36:00 UTC No. 16301855

>>16301852
>why do we use tech that exists rather than tech that doesn't exist????
quoting u

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:36:08 UTC No. 16301856

Elections were a mistake and Elon is going insane

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:39:30 UTC No. 16301860

>>16301719
When you have no other customers and have to amortize R&D across a handful of launches the price goes way up. Engineers are some of the highest paid people in the country so even at a conservative 100k/yr/person you're looking at 50-100 million a year alone just in labor plus their army of support staff and fabricators. At a conservative 1:3 ratio and an average of 80k/yr/person you're up to 90-180 million per year. Then you factor in facilities specifically built just for this rocket (manufacturing, testing and shipping) and materials and you're already at a billion before actually bending metal. Then add your guaranteed cost plus profit margin, say 20%...

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:40:52 UTC No. 16301862

>>16301855
Both halves of your statement are a bit iffy.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:43:24 UTC No. 16301864

>>16301862
Now that we have starship all the tech necessary to terraform worlds is in place. Everything else is just scale.
Bioforming humans to survive in a vacuum is currently not even theoretically feasible.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:47:49 UTC No. 16301866

>>16301856
>nooo elon has different political opinions than me so he must be insane
N

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:50:40 UTC No. 16301869

>>16301866
Elons political opinions are totally informed by whats best for mars settlement. It certainly ain't gonna be the dems who scrap the PP restrictions that basically outlaw human missions to mars.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:52:04 UTC No. 16301871

>>16301856
Kek yup

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:58:40 UTC No. 16301876

>>16301866
No, but people who are obsessed with politics and fight imaginary wars are.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:05:14 UTC No. 16301883

>>16301813
Sorry to hear that. Will you still be able to see your kids?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:10:02 UTC No. 16301890

>>16301822
The simulated rivers look like shit, but it's hard to get nice rivers and a freshly terraformed Mars is going to have fucked up rivers anyway.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:13:26 UTC No. 16301895

>>16301852
Because ur more likely to look like this than an actual human being by the time you get upgraded to survive on a vacuum world

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:16:39 UTC No. 16301898

>>16301895
that's sick where do I sign up?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:29:27 UTC No. 16301909

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdTkwB1VLXA
>Starship 2.0: New Hardware Spotted | Starbase Update

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:35:01 UTC No. 16301914

>>16301845
Realistically by the time a Martian civilization imports enough nitrogen to have a sky instead of a pressurized volume, every square km will already be inhabited. You might have groups who, in tearing down their plastic sky, would find their managed environment changing from Hawaii to northern Canada, so they'll leave it up. An actual terraformed Mars would be still be extremely artificial.
>>16301856
He accidentally retweeted the great replacement theory which while true, is antisemitic. He is now forced to repeatedly and loudly proclaim that it's about votes and not a millennia old semitic resentment. Him being so vocal recently is the opposite of what you think. The lies are worth it for Mars.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:35:04 UTC No. 16301915

>>16301852
Praise the Omnissiah!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:49:52 UTC No. 16301926

>>16301914
Funnily enough I would think that a canadian environment, at least on a wet mars, would be one of the external environments where plastic tents wouldn't work cause they'd get weighed down with snow.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:59:35 UTC No. 16301938

>>16301864
You overestimate one and underestimate how much of the other has already happened.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:09:22 UTC No. 16301947

>>16301938
The other basically has happened, all thats needed is to fix the flap issue and then demonstrate orbital refueling and thats it.
How am I overestimating living in a vacuum? Even the animals that can survive a vacuum can't do anything in it.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:11:09 UTC No. 16301950

>>16301926
I suspect a civilization that remembers -125°C won't have much trouble locally melting some snow

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:13:17 UTC No. 16301953

>>16301694
Its a side-mount booster

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:14:27 UTC No. 16301957

https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1817955882204119209
> We have {double} the exciting news!
>Production is complete on our twin spacecraft headed to Mars for @ucbssl and @NASA ESCAPADE mission.
> Blue and Gold are now preparing to be packaged and shipped to Cape Canaveral for launch.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:16:17 UTC No. 16301959

>>16301950
You live in the south don't you?
Melting snow is a pain in the ass.
Why do people itt just assume that a society which has terraformed mars no longer needs to care about practicality or economics?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:22:34 UTC No. 16301967

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1817957248964182187

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:39:57 UTC No. 16301985

>>16301097
>Propellant Depot
The fuck did you just say to me?
You little punk!!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:40:57 UTC No. 16301988

>>16301643
If you're already building giant mirrors and shades. Using those to create an artificial 24 hour day wouldn't be hard rather than actually spinning the planet.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:44:28 UTC No. 16301995

>>16301988
Problem with the mirrors and shades is that in order to keep venus a livable temperature you need more shade than mirror.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:53:30 UTC No. 16302007

>>16301959
A civilization that can move teratons of nitrogen between planets will find generating the heat necessary to melt snow trivial
>>16301947
>Starship therefore terraforming
Starship is able to facilitate the logistics required for extraterrestrial self sufficiency. We're talking about moving a container ship's worth of machines over a decade. Terraforming would necessitate energy and automation orders of magnitude beyond what we're currently capable of. I don't know what the difference is between a glow in the dark goldfish and a moon person would be, but I highly doubt it has the same scaling issue.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:56:00 UTC No. 16302014

>back to comfy terraforming talk
Who's ready for IFT5 to ruin this place for a month straight again

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:56:30 UTC No. 16302018

Suggon Deesnuts

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:59:12 UTC No. 16302021

>>16302007
>A civilization that can move teratons of nitrogen between planets will find generating the heat necessary to melt snow trivial
No, it isn't. You sound like boomer white women asking why can't they make it summer all the time if they can put a man on the moon?
The tech to end snow on mars has nothing to do with getting nitrogen to mars and one has no effect on the other.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:02:25 UTC No. 16302025

>>16302018
No fun allowed.png

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:06:57 UTC No. 16302028

>>16302018
Actual manchild

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:09:41 UTC No. 16302030

>>16302018
thats insane

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:15:03 UTC No. 16302036

>>16301719
Me when I get a "test X part in upper kerbin atmosphere" contract

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:27:49 UTC No. 16302050

>>16302007
>A civilization that can move teratons of nitrogen between planets will find generating the heat necessary to melt snow trivial
doable sure, trivial no. today we can move millions of tons of raw steel around the world every year but it's a pain in the ass to get snow off of anything except airports, interstate highways and thoroughfares within cities.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:27:59 UTC No. 16302051

>>16302018
Why doesnt Newsome arrest Elon? He directly insulted him and questioned the state authority. Newsome must make an example of Musk, seize his property in California and arrest him

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:32:59 UTC No. 16302054

IFT5 when?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:33:04 UTC No. 16302055

https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1817965602537095274

Blorgin/Rocketlabs teaming up to send something to mars to beat SpaceX this coming winter.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:34:26 UTC No. 16302057

>>16302054
4-6 weeks

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:35:01 UTC No. 16302058

>>16302054
October 15

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:35:42 UTC No. 16302060

>>16301346
draining the radiation belt provides an enormous amount of electrical power as well
it's a giant magnetic battery

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:36:13 UTC No. 16302061

>>16302055
Lmao Rocketlab implying BO will miss the launch window. Newsflash, they are going to miss it bigly!!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:37:35 UTC No. 16302064

>>16301556
>>16301558
>>16301564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDVX_CizAdg

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:37:46 UTC No. 16302065

>>16302055
I’m going to charter a boat in minecraft and just keep floating into the exclusion zone at T-1 min to ensure they cannot launch.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:40:32 UTC No. 16302068

>>16301634
bro, former marine environment describes an entire hemisphere of Mars

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:41:05 UTC No. 16302070

>>16302021
Retard. The energy and automation required to do that would make a snowblower drone pretty trivial.
>>16302050
Something doable now will probably be trivial in 300 years. Trivial meaning something like, not a significant expenditure of said civilization. I mean we're talking about a hypothetical future point where you're measuring interplanetary mass moved in amounts larger than asteroids with names. You think snow will be some existential problem? They won't even think about it

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:43:05 UTC No. 16302073

>>16301642
currently venus has about 2 bar of nitrogen on the surface

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:45:06 UTC No. 16302076

>>16301709
if you can harvest hydrogen from saturn or jupiter you can turn most of the CO2 into water and carbon dust, and then you can send the nitrogen to Mars

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:45:50 UTC No. 16302077

It’s actually going to be lame as fuck if there is plenty of fossil evidence for PREVIOUS life on Mars, but no evidence of current life.
Though I suppose ‘something’ is better than nothing.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:46:50 UTC No. 16302078

>>16302070
>The energy and automation required to do that would make a snowblower drone pretty trivial.
No, it wouldn't. Are you retarded? You can do interplanetary travel with just normal chemical rockets and you don't need any more automation than we use on current interplanetary missions. All you need is a work camp on pluto or triton, some clever gravity assist plans and a lot of starships. Thats it, no magic required.
>>16302068
Just land on the hemisphere that isn't, I don't see the issue.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:48:16 UTC No. 16302081

>>16302077
there being fossils makes it more likely for there to be life currently

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:50:00 UTC No. 16302083

>>16302077
the rover shot a pic of a crab like thingy

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:54:56 UTC No. 16302089

>>16302070
do you consider keeping an airport open in a blizzard today to be trivial?
the energy expenditure is nothing next to running a city, much less the world. but it's still constant fighting to deice every plane, to plow and salt every runway and then depending on the location of the airport, truck the snow out (on roads that have to be plowed) or burn it and dump it down drains. the requires coordination from hundreds of people and dozens of multi million dollar machines. to keep one airport running. and sometimes it's not enough.
snow is such a major pain in the ass that controlling a planet's worth will never be "trivial". no matter how much you wave your hands.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:56:50 UTC No. 16302093

>>16302078
This retard thinks you can terraform Mars with starships
>>16302089
And this retard thinks tech and energy costs will be the same 100s of years from now. I give up

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:59:52 UTC No. 16302097

>>16302093
>And this retard thinks tech and energy costs will be the same 100s of years from now
see this shit? this is the handwaving.
>energy costs will go down. machines will also cost less money
>this will happen to the extent that snow management on a planetary scale will not only be doable, it will be something they don't even bother to think about

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:02:17 UTC No. 16302102

how many nucular bombs can starship carry

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:03:59 UTC No. 16302108

>>16302097
Not the future generally, dumbass. The specific future we're talking about where Mars is colonized. You need serious advancements in automation and energy to get there. The only reason you could possibly think that snow on the roof would be remotely an issue for a terraforming civilization is because you don't understand the scale involved at all

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:07:14 UTC No. 16302113

>>16302093
This retard thinks you can't terraform mars with starships.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:15:06 UTC No. 16302125

HOW MANY BOMBS

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:17:17 UTC No. 16302127

>>16302125
about 3.50

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:18:07 UTC No. 16302128

>>16302125
ask your parents

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:21:14 UTC No. 16302133

>>16302102
for the warhead alone, its about 1kt yield per kg weight.
so a starship with 100tons of warheads would yield about 100megatons.
if you want them mounted on a missile, it gets a lot less

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:21:50 UTC No. 16302136

>>16302133
Let's assume MRV

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:22:12 UTC No. 16302137

>>16302113
Explain how you can

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:27:09 UTC No. 16302144

>>16302137
>make self sufficient colony on mars
>get some criminals on a starship towards pluto/triton to make a colony
>force them to mine nitrogen ice there
>send it back to mars, no need to land just release their cargo to aero capture
>have a ton of starships and prop depots to make sure you can send nitrogen ice as fast as it's mined
>use gravity assists wherever possible.
There, easy.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:28:02 UTC No. 16302147

>>16302133
why would you want them mounted on a missile? starship is already a missile.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:30:55 UTC No. 16302153

>>16302147
sure, if you want all of it in one spot. if you want to spread them out to different targets, you need to individually boost them a bit.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:35:44 UTC No. 16302158

>>16302144
That would take roughly 30,000,000,000,000 flights of starship. So yeah, you really don't understand the scaling issue.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:37:32 UTC No. 16302162

>>16302158
this is what mass drivers are for, just launch a ton an hour every day for a thousand years

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:40:09 UTC No. 16302170

>>16302158
just double the amount of starship flights every year and you'll be there in about 42 years :D

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:41:15 UTC No. 16302171

>>16302162
A ton an hour every day for a thousand years would get you 0.00000029% of the way there. Please go learn why Elon Musk is always yapping about orders of magnitude

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:43:18 UTC No. 16302175

>>16301408

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:45:45 UTC No. 16302180

>>16302175
yeah we saw it

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:47:42 UTC No. 16302182

>>16302133
if i calculated it correctly, you would need 24285 starships with 30 kt sized nukes which makes 3333 nukes per starship to make a fireball that reaches every part of russia. nukes are overrated.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:48:22 UTC No. 16302184

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1817990291858801048

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:52:09 UTC No. 16302188

>>16301995
what's the problem with reflecting some sunlight somewhere else?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:55:25 UTC No. 16302195

>>16302158
Still only a scale issue and not a tech issue.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:56:20 UTC No. 16302196

>>16302102
a B61 is about 700lb

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:58:20 UTC No. 16302201

>>16302195
It is such a scale issue that it becomes a tech issue. We don't have that level of automation right now.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:58:21 UTC No. 16302202

https://www.faa.gov/media/82786

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:59:42 UTC No. 16302207

>>16302202

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:00:34 UTC No. 16302209

>>16302184
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/although-its-not-final-spacex-just-got-good-news-from-the-faa-on-starbase/
>As a part of this multi-year process, the Federal Aviation Administration completed a Final Programmatic Environmental Assessment in June 2022. Following that review, SpaceX received approval to conduct up to five Starship launches from South Texas annually.
>SpaceX has since launched Starship four times from its launch site in South Texas, known as Starbase, and is planning a fifth launch within the next two months. However, as it continues to test Starship and make plans for regular flights, SpaceX will need a higher flight rate. This is especially true as the company is unlikely to activate additional launch pads for Starship in Florida until at least 2026.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:00:55 UTC No. 16302210

>>16302202
flame trench for 1st tower?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:01:01 UTC No. 16302211

>>16302207
SpaceX is gonna flip boosters on their side after being caught.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:02:21 UTC No. 16302214

>>16302209
>This is not the final word. In the parlance of the FAA, this is just milestone No. 3 in the seven-part process that results in a final determination. Up next are a series of public meetings, both in person in South Texas and online, during the month of August. The public comment period will then close on August 29.
>SpaceX asked the FAA—which has federal authority to regulate such activities in order to protect life and property on the ground—for 25 annual launches and 50 total landings, 25 for Starship and 25 for Super Heavy. The company is also seeking to conduct up to 90 seconds of daytime Starship static fire tests, and 70 seconds of daytime Super Heavy static fire tests a year.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:04:34 UTC No. 16302219

>>16302209
>5 annually
So it is just shuttle 2.0

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:04:39 UTC No. 16302220

https://x.com/FAANews/status/1817968469503082565

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:05:17 UTC No. 16302221

>>16302180
saw what

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:05:41 UTC No. 16302223

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1817957008278257726

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:06:06 UTC No. 16302224

When IFT-5?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:06:16 UTC No. 16302225

>>16302211
But... But what about rapid reusability....

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:06:32 UTC No. 16302226

>>16302219
It's the old license, retard. They haven't even reached that limit yet.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:06:51 UTC No. 16302228

>>16302219
that was the initial amount of launches, they are seeking 25 annual launches now

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:07:11 UTC No. 16302230

>>16302219
Set to increase to 25 annually with the new modification

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:07:18 UTC No. 16302231

>>16301825
This is basically what northern Canada looks like

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:10:56 UTC No. 16302237

>>16302202
the boundary is shaped so retardedly lmao

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:13:31 UTC No. 16302241

>>16302231
>cold
>lakes
Damn you're right. The landscapes on Mars will be rings of quiet pine forests sandwiched between crater walls and crater lakes. Excuse me while I despair over the unbelievable kino I will never get to experience

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:15:38 UTC No. 16302246

>>16302133
>>16302196
wont it need some special mounting adapter? obviously cant fill the whole fairing with fissile material. It should be remote detonated at the right altitude too for max impact. It will need to go through the whole belly flop maneuver

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:16:03 UTC No. 16302247

ESG hound is seething lmaoo

https://x.com/ESGhound/status/1817992195682545712

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:16:46 UTC No. 16302249

>>16302182
You dont need nearly that much to materially heat up the planet for millions of years

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:18:21 UTC No. 16302254

>>16302249
>nuke Mars
>water and CO2 refreezes over tharsis only decades later
What now muskrats

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:22:07 UTC No. 16302260

>>16302254
Did you fail reading comprehension class? Yes you did

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:23:39 UTC No. 16302263

>>16302254
We will have nukes dropped to ring in the new milleniums.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:23:56 UTC No. 16302264

>>16302231
>>16302241
Yep, and add moss covering everything

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:27:21 UTC No. 16302269

>>16301825
We shouldnt do this, it ruins the natural state of how we found it. Mars must stay pristine from human destruction

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:29:10 UTC No. 16302271

>>16302269
mars will be exploited

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:30:15 UTC No. 16302272

>>16302269
Counterpoint, I'll kill you

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:31:16 UTC No. 16302276

>>16302269
this is why you'll stay an Earther

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:40:22 UTC No. 16302285

>>16301726
>>16301741
Antarctica and Venus have somewhat similar looking (superficially at least) topography because it was formed by volcanism as opposed to tectonic activity. That being said, Antarctica has lakes, rivers, canyons, mountain ranges, craters, and the works.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:42:16 UTC No. 16302289

>>16302108
You are mentally handicapped and I am sorry for you

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:43:24 UTC No. 16302290

>>16302269
nature exists as a starting point for us to paint our will onto. it's what God wants.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:44:46 UTC No. 16302293

>>16301745
>create a map of mars that just has the lowlands filled with water with the colors dictated by what looks like elevation
>might as well have been just mars but x mya
>call it terraformed
wut

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:48:52 UTC No. 16302300

>>16302285
antarctica is so fucking cool. i hope the ice all melts and we colonize it

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:49:10 UTC No. 16302301

>>16302289
If you followed the conversation you'd see that I was right and they didn't understand the scaling issue even a little

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:50:26 UTC No. 16302302

>>16302289
actually you would see that this anon>>16302301
is wrong and I was the correct one.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:53:54 UTC No. 16302309

>>16302302
No no, he was wrong and I was right

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:53:56 UTC No. 16302312

>>16302285
volcanism is tectonic activity what are you talking about

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:55:13 UTC No. 16302313

>>16302312
You know what he means faggot

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:56:00 UTC No. 16302314

>>16302077
Somehow the evidence is mounting for past life on Mars at least and yet without proper sample returns and human inspections it is still up in the air

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:56:25 UTC No. 16302315

>>16302108
>colonized
Fuck I meant terraformed. Did I just have a two hour long argument over a typo?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:57:19 UTC No. 16302316

>>16302202
Starbase will grow larger!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:00:09 UTC No. 16302321

>>16302220
Oh god here we go again.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:02:18 UTC No. 16302324

>>16302272
based

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:02:23 UTC No. 16302325

>>16302220
Will they do public hearing? If so someone must prepare a new bingo

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:03:11 UTC No. 16302327

>>16302316
that boca it too chica

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:04:43 UTC No. 16302330

>>16302327
boca twoco

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:05:56 UTC No. 16302334

starchica

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:07:13 UTC No. 16302336

>>16302314
They already found these all over the place.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:09:46 UTC No. 16302341

>>16302336
That's not real and you know it.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:12:34 UTC No. 16302343

Reds (all kinds) are not welcome in this thread

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:14:39 UTC No. 16302347

>>16302343
火星是我们火星人的。

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:16:44 UTC No. 16302349

>>16302343

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:28:00 UTC No. 16302366

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:29:01 UTC No. 16302368

>>16302366

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:30:06 UTC No. 16302372

>>16302368
lot of landing areas

>Consistent with the 2022 PEA, landings that occurred downrange on a floating platform would continue to be delivered by barge to the Port of Brownsville and transported the remaining distance to the Boca Chica Launch Site over roadways.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:33:25 UTC No. 16302377

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:38:11 UTC No. 16302383

They should land somewhere where it is a day

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:38:24 UTC No. 16302384

>Piping plovers and red knots regularly or occasionally use habitat within the gravel plume area for foraging and resting. The noise and activity associated with engine ignition likely cause piping plovers or red knots that may be close to the VLA to flush prior to the creation of the gravel plume. This behavioral response would likely prevent physical injury or death from the gravel plume. To date, no piping plovers or red knots have been found dead or njured following testing of the Starship and Super Heavy launch vehicles. Since piping plovers and red knots do not breed in Texas, no immobile eggs or chicks would be present in the vicinity of the VLA, and none would be exposed

Bird might get pummeled with gravel lol

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:41:15 UTC No. 16302388

>>16302383
It's too hot to land on the sun during the day

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:43:47 UTC No. 16302392

>>16302202

there is a 50 page document as an appendix modeling starship noise

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:46:56 UTC No. 16302394

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:50:27 UTC No. 16302400

>>16302388
Unbelievable, but true!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:55:28 UTC No. 16302409

>>16302384
Should I just make a bird sanctuary and just
>see now they won't go extinct, now fuck off
What a retarded detail to focus on

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:01:10 UTC No. 16302418

>>16302409
there is like 20 pages of stuff like this focused on animals

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:03:23 UTC No. 16302422

https://x.com/AdrianDittmann/status/1818026331369840840

he cant keep getting away with it

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:03:45 UTC No. 16302424

Alternate camera angle on the Tianlong-3 accidental launch

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:05:32 UTC No. 16302426

>>16302424
he didn't fly so good

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:08:14 UTC No. 16302431

>>16302422
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1818025663842107842

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:09:19 UTC No. 16302433

>>16302424
Based China won't let regulators do shit about it.
This company is poised to succeed

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:09:44 UTC No. 16302434

>>16302202
nice filename for the pdf

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:25:02 UTC No. 16302460

>>16302247
>ESG hound is seething lmaoo
Do we know anything else about ESG other than he's retarded? I'd love to troll the bastard, but I need something to run with.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:30:31 UTC No. 16302465

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:32:25 UTC No. 16302466

>>16302465
>government listening to its people is.... Le BAD!

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:38:50 UTC No. 16302473

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:40:28 UTC No. 16302475

>>16302202
btw doesn't this kind of confirm there is not going to be a flame trench?
there is a similar water farm as with tower 1

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:55:43 UTC No. 16302484

>>16302394
5 booster and 6 ship static fires per year indicates a new stack produced about once every 2 months. suggests that production may already have reached the point where it can support artemis.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:00:51 UTC No. 16302488

https://www.spacex.com/updates/#starship-sonic-boom
tl;dr: Starship will produce sonic booms. We measured the sonic boom from Super Heavy and it will be worse than Falcon 9 but don't worry.

(They don't mention directly the sonic booms from Starship orbital reentry, which might represent a bigger problem)

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:04:10 UTC No. 16302490

>>16301967
>infinitely cheaper
Considering that nobody has been hooked up yet by that shit, there should be a divide by zero in that math. So yes, infinitely.
It's just a scam to make more government jobs to hire people to do nothing useful, other than happily voting for those who create more government jobs.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:07:54 UTC No. 16302495

>>16302201
What fucking automation do you need that we don't have? Plotting routes through the solar system is a solved issue. You don't need automation to mine nitrogen ice. Theres nothing we don't have.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:07:59 UTC No. 16302496

>>16302051
ok bro

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:11:13 UTC No. 16302498

>>16302466
The common mongrol scum do not get to decide this

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:13:20 UTC No. 16302500

>>16302064
>Not this time.
kek

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:23:16 UTC No. 16302507

>>16302495
Anon. We're talking about moving three quadrillion tons of ice. I don't know how to explain to you what that means. That's a million times the amount of iron ever mined in history and you want to mine it in space and send it to a different planet. The systems you would need to do that on a human timescale do not exist.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:23:37 UTC No. 16302508

>>16301855
>why do we use tech that exists rather than tech that doesn't exist????

>forgets he's on /sfg/

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:24:06 UTC No. 16302510

>>16302431
SpaceX must take Venezuela - build tropical Brutalist base and launch complex..
Pic somewhat rel.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:24:11 UTC No. 16302511

>>16302424
The government is going to be able to figure out which apartment that was filmed in and have a talk with the people there about embarrassing the country to the world.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:24:45 UTC No. 16302513

>>16302507
Who gives a flying fuck about human timescales?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:26:28 UTC No. 16302514

>>16302513
Are you terraforming Mars for the bug people who will emerge a billion years hence? What the fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:27:57 UTC No. 16302515

>>16302514
We're terraforming mars for the people who will soon be living there. Who the fuck else?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:29:00 UTC No. 16302517

>>16302510
>Equatorial coastline
Quick someone claim the current leader is dictator or something, we need some new launch sites

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:30:34 UTC No. 16302518

>>16302515
Humans? Then why are you saying human timescales don't matter? You aren't being coherent

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:32:54 UTC No. 16302520

>>16302518
What the fuck do you mean by human timescales? Are you talking about the length of a human life like most people? Of civilization? Or of the entire species?
If you're using a non standard definition then your confusion is understandable though no less stupid.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:35:23 UTC No. 16302521

>>16302517
Elon Musk is already ahead of you

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:42:20 UTC No. 16302529

https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/spacex-talks-land-recover-starship-rocket-off-australias-coast-2024-07-29/
>WASHINGTON, July 29 (Reuters) - SpaceX is in talks with U.S. and Australian officials to land and recover one of its Starship rockets off Australia's coast, a possible first step toward a bigger presence for Elon Musk's company in the region as the two countries bolster security ties, according to three people familiar with the plans.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:46:21 UTC No. 16302532

>>16302529
>The plan would be to launch Starship from a SpaceX facility in Texas, land it in the sea off Australia's coast and recover it on Australian territory. Getting permission to do so would require loosening U.S. export controls on sophisticated space technologies bound for Australia, according to the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:48:29 UTC No. 16302535

>>16302529
https://archive.is/GkK0w

Big. Its a 20 hour flight in traditional airplane between US and Sydney Australia. Reduce it down to 40 mins.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:48:53 UTC No. 16302536

At this point the Starliner crew might as well just step out an airlock without a suit. Everyone knows they're doomed.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:49:15 UTC No. 16302537

>>16302532
the first orbital rocket attempt from Australian soil being a Starship would be baller

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:51:47 UTC No. 16302538

>>16302537
wasn't black arrow launched from australia?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:53:09 UTC No. 16302539

>>16302424
more like Tianjianglong, am I right?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:54:12 UTC No. 16302540

>>16302466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:54:30 UTC No. 16302541

>>16302538
You remember correctly: RAAF Woomera Range Complex

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:59:25 UTC No. 16302545

>>16302495
this is isaac arthur levels of handwaving away anything that isn't discovering new physical principles as an engineering problem

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:00:42 UTC No. 16302546

>>16302529
beijing will never approve this mate

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:01:47 UTC No. 16302548

>>16302546
lol they can't do shit, this is nowhere near china anyway

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:05:30 UTC No. 16302549

>>16302422
>>16302431
My enemy's enemy is my friend.
And it's good to have friends with space lasers.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:06:53 UTC No. 16302550

>>16302511
they should give him a medal for showing the intense power of glorious chyna

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:11:11 UTC No. 16302553

>>16302424
Unironically kino, thanks china

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:12:29 UTC No. 16302555

>>16302545
it's not an engineering problem.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:13:06 UTC No. 16302556

>>16302529
>>16302532
Holy based m8!
Hopefully this can be the start of an Australian-Texan alliance.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:17:52 UTC No. 16302558

>>16302207
expect mass riots and protests soon. they dont want to become the new chinese villagers.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:20:49 UTC No. 16302559

>>16302422
On a technical level, Elon has his own tried and tested ICBM backlog and could theoretically deliver a payload of pretty much any volume or mass to anywhere on Earth within a ~15 meter diameter circle in under an hour if he so bothered

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:21:26 UTC No. 16302560

>>16302538
it wasn't so much launched as released

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:21:52 UTC No. 16302561

>>16302555
>mining nitrogen on pluto and sending it to mars is not an engineering problem
yeah, you're right
I apologize

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:23:29 UTC No. 16302562

>>16302559
SpaceX could probably pinpoint a warhead within a meter’s tolerance if the DoD needed them to.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:24:55 UTC No. 16302566

https://x.com/vast/status/1818064624178417996
NEW VAST ANNOUNCEMENT. Hopefully more info on their current progress?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:26:02 UTC No. 16302567

>>16302566
i sleep

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:26:53 UTC No. 16302568

>>16302538
That and a leftover Redstone Sparta from the US Army

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:27:07 UTC No. 16302569

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1818034138018152767

video

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:27:34 UTC No. 16302570

>>16302566
Can't that Haot guy shave his neckbeard and take a proper picture?
He looks incredibly bad and they keep using that pic everywhere

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:28:01 UTC No. 16302571

>>16302520
Human timescales meaning on the order of centuries. For example, you would need to mine by mass, 1000 times the iron ever mined by human beings, in ice per year, and then launch it to a different planet, from a planet that isn't Earth. You'd finish in 1000 years. That is not just a scaling problem.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:28:08 UTC No. 16302572

>>16302569
https://www.spacex.com/updates/#starship-sonic-boom

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:30:52 UTC No. 16302573

>>16302561
Apology accepted, don't let it happen again.
>>16302571
>not taking into account scaling laws
What, you think iron was mined at an equal rate though all of history?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:36:45 UTC No. 16302575

>>16302572
OH GOD
OH GOD
OH GOD
IT'S GONNA BE LOUD
IT'S GONNA BE LOUD
IT'S GONNA BE LOUD

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:37:26 UTC No. 16302576

>>16302573
dude why are you being retarded right now. you've spent all day insisting that bringing 3 quadrillion tons of nitrogen from pluto to mars is not an engineering problem. i don't know how to explain why that's retarded. if you're in this thread you should just know already. are you the same guy talking about sending prisoners to pluto? god damn man stop posting

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:38:05 UTC No. 16302577

>>16302576
Not an argument.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:41:29 UTC No. 16302582

>>16302431
kek
now I wanna see elon land a dozen starships around the venezuelan parliament, eject a couple hundred mobile infantry in power armor each, take over venezuela and turn it into a massive private launch base

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:43:28 UTC No. 16302584

>>16302577
just explain the whole process so we're not arguing over nothing. what infrastructure are we sending to pluto and what goes on there?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:46:28 UTC No. 16302590

>>16302575

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:47:38 UTC No. 16302591

>>16302582
Caracas Spaceport would give cause to make the Darién Gap railway a reality.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:58:15 UTC No. 16302601

>>16302431
Musk should start a PMC and take over Venezuela.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:08:17 UTC No. 16302607

>>16301364
It really is that easy

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:10:01 UTC No. 16302608

>>16302511
nice headcanon

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:13:00 UTC No. 16302609

>>16302584
>doesn't respond

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:15:15 UTC No. 16302612

>>16301301
The Jovians will be the trve spacers. Martians will be always be insecure wanna be urf larpers if they go down the terraforming route

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:17:17 UTC No. 16302614

translators please advise

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:23:11 UTC No. 16302616

>>16301634
We're never gonna find shit sending remotely controlled gorillion dallar rovers to flip over rocks. We'll dig up space dinos when we start doing road cuts and excavating dome city foundations.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:26:09 UTC No. 16302620

>>16302616
>We're never gonna find shit sending remotely controlled gorillion dallar rovers to flip over rocks.
At this point I'm convinced that they're making sure this doesn't happen so the demand for gorillion dollar rovers never goes away.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:26:41 UTC No. 16302621

>>16302616
>domes

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:32:51 UTC No. 16302626

>>16302614

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:36:06 UTC No. 16302630

>>16302591
Caracas is basically ideal for SSTO HTOL, or Starship RTLS. Right on the equator and high altitude. It's in a mountain valley with no easterly sea access so Korou is still better for dropping stages in the water.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:41:13 UTC No. 16302632

>>16302626
It even gets the katakana wrong. You'd be better off praying or using your imagination.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 00:43:08 UTC No. 16302633

>>16302626
No
>>16302614
Top Left: "It becomes wavy starting from here"
Top Right: "The bangs have a straight-cut vibe(?), it's cute"
Middle Right: "No bangs"
Bottom Right: "With bangs it suddenly looks a lot like this person"

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:14:33 UTC No. 16302650

>>16302614
Starship chan is NOT a nigger. Pure, silver skin. In fact you could make a case for starship chan wearing blackface.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:21:10 UTC No. 16302655

>>16302614
Why do girls think bangs are cute? I think it's one of the ugliest, laziest hair stylings

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:24:30 UTC No. 16302660

>>16302655
It's cope for foids with 5heads. You will never a normal sized forehead foid with bangs.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:29:59 UTC No. 16302662

any idea as to when we could actually see a starship landing off of australia? it seems like something that wouldnt happen for 3-4 years.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:31:01 UTC No. 16302663

>>16302601
I think Goldcorp is already working on it

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:34:14 UTC No. 16302666

>>16302660
Oh so it's like a body positivity/anticompetition thing. Like when girls shower their one obese friend in compliments, knowing full well they keep a whale around to make themselves look better

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:38:05 UTC No. 16302673

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzDKoKfYwI
Well, someone's getting started on their stream early
T-9 hours

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:38:21 UTC No. 16302674

>/sfg/ - womens' hairstyles

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:40:04 UTC No. 16302676

>>16302674
I NEED STARSHIP LAUNCH OK

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:40:48 UTC No. 16302677

>>16302666
no because its feminine for women to have round faces since its nubile. its more like wearing corsets or butt/hip pads or padded bras. its meant to make the woman look more feminine/attractive to men.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:51:19 UTC No. 16302686

>>16302674
Fun /sfg/ /tv/ /fa/ crossover fact:
By October 1978, most of the actors for 'The Black Hole' had been cast, with the exception for Jennifer O'Neill cast as Kate McCrae. O'Neill had been told she needed to cut her hair because it would be easier to film zero-gravity scenes. Initially hesitant, she eventually agreed and brought her personal hairstylist Vidal Sassoon to the studio. O'Neill consumed multiple glasses of wine during the haircut, then left the studio noticeably inebriated and was subsequently hospitalized following a car crash, which cost her the role. Yvette Mimieux was cast the following day and agreed to have her own long hair cropped.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:56:05 UTC No. 16302689

>>16302677
she's ugly, and bangs make her barely less ugly?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:57:13 UTC No. 16302690

Anybody got that pic of the cute girl with the major forehead with a F9 landing on it?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:39:01 UTC No. 16302740

>>16302532
>>16302537
Moving cargo for launch from Australia is going to be a trick. Over-water transport is the only option with the capacity to carry payloads up to 8 meters wide. The Airbus Belugas are limited to 6.7 meters on circular payloads. Antanovs and C-5s are smaller.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:39:28 UTC No. 16302742

>>16302662
never ever
there's not many indian ocean soft landings left before they start to bring them down near hawaii or the launch site itself. The indian ocean landings are designed to be as far as possible from any land so unless things go terribly wrong you will never see them fly over your house.

The only chance would be if point to point starship actually takes off, but even then ITAR would probably preclude any non military landings of starship on foreign territory for a long long time

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:41:15 UTC No. 16302746

Here's a landing leg for ESA's Themis grasshopper-sized methalox VTVL demonstrator built by MT Aerospace and currently undergoing tests....

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:42:25 UTC No. 16302747

>>16302746
And here's a landing leg for ESA's Themis VTVL demonstrator built by Almatech and that underwent test last year.

Yes, these are two different companies making legs for the same vehicle.
Yes it's pure ESA geographic return grift.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:43:41 UTC No. 16302748

>>16302746
>>16302747
And neither are planning on flying test hardware before 2027

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:45:50 UTC No. 16302751

>>16302748
i'll take 3 years away over never

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:48:21 UTC No. 16302752

>>16301719
Hey /sfg/ i am back from a long break!
I am here to remind you that the SLS actually costs far FAR more than 40 billion in dev

You see SLS is essentially just constellation, all the dev costs for that can be rolled into SLS

Factor in all the costs that NASA doesn't want to include like salary for employees that technically don't work on SLS but everything they do is work on it, and then all the ground equipment and facilities that are only used for SLS but AREN'T included in costs

the real cost is 200+ billion in dev and 4 billion per launch +4 billion for orion

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:51:52 UTC No. 16302755

>>16302751
It's already been delayed by 3 years (2022->2025)
Quite shameful, in the meantime chinese companies that were literally founded *after* the start of the Themis program did some grasshopper test.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:53:47 UTC No. 16302761

>>16302529
australia should just build a starship port already
fuck gilmour space

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:59:59 UTC No. 16302764

>>16302752
actually, SLS is free because the taxpayers are paying for it.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 03:05:30 UTC No. 16302768

>>16302601
He could live up to his true destiny as a Bond villain.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 03:12:20 UTC No. 16302776

>>16302686

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 03:31:15 UTC No. 16302793

>>16302761
Abos will break into the methane tanks and try to huff it

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 04:08:27 UTC No. 16302819

/sfg/ - Stupid Faggot General

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 04:09:15 UTC No. 16302821

>>16302819
Yeah, you

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 04:30:09 UTC No. 16302830

>>16302819
stay mad, nigger

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 05:07:52 UTC No. 16302844

fun space fact: i have never made a bad post on /sfg/

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 05:14:54 UTC No. 16302845

>>16302844
Silence proontfag

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 05:38:25 UTC No. 16302851

>>16302424
God damn those apartment blocks look nice. This might seem like a bizarre remark to some people, but as a Russian, those buildings look a lot better than 90+% of apartment blocks in my city. If that wasn't China, I would have been jealous.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 05:57:52 UTC No. 16302866

>>16302865

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:10:36 UTC No. 16302871

>>16302866
old news, NASA already publicly said it's unrelated to the shartliner disaster (for now)

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:23:44 UTC No. 16302881

>>16302871
>NASA already publicly said it's unrelated to the shartliner disaster

Do you really believe it?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:38:01 UTC No. 16302890

>>16302881
no, but that's the official word so until there's rumours of spacex beginning to prep a dragon I'll stick to that

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:38:23 UTC No. 16302891

>>16301346
>>16301364
its actually much much much much easier then terraforming, you can just have ELF radio satellite constellations powered with big solar arrays (or nuclear) to drain the belt and rapidly clear out large areas of charged particles.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:40:17 UTC No. 16302894

>>16301624
just cover io's orbit in a constellation of satellites generating large amounts of radio waves. could be done in only a decade or so with a few hundred mars based starships

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:42:13 UTC No. 16302895

>>16301217
i wonder who will be the first organization/company to send humans to mercury, and when it'll happen

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:58:17 UTC No. 16302902

>>16302895
Mercury such a dump, giga nigga Delta v needed, not enough atmosphere to aerobrake, surface is a rolling wave of fiery death.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 07:20:07 UTC No. 16302919

In before ULA has changed its photography licensing because someone had a vision of an unavoidable failure of the Atlas V rocket and they want to limit the imagery of the failure

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 07:34:04 UTC No. 16302926

in 20 years commercial passenger spaceflight will be routine and normal. kids growing up wont know what its like to live in a world where humans only live on a single planet. for them, a one-planet civilization is ancient history.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 08:01:06 UTC No. 16302940

been away from a few days. Any new on
a)date of next Starship flight
b)FAA merlin investigation
c)When Starliner is coming back

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 08:03:39 UTC No. 16302941

>>16302940
In order:
Next Starship flight is late August to early September.
The Merlin investigation concluded that the cause of failure was a leaking Oxygen sense line that chilled the engine when the liquid oxygen evaporated into space, which made the starting fluids gummy and the fuel mix exploded when they tried to light it. They deleted the line because it was redundant and have resumed flight.
No idea.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 08:03:44 UTC No. 16302942

>>16302940
Obtober
doesnt matter
No

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 08:04:58 UTC No. 16302944

>>16302941
>>16302942
Thanks

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 08:08:02 UTC No. 16302946

Print a cute sat launchers

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 08:08:13 UTC No. 16302947

>>16302422
There's nothing more pathetic than a communist clinging to power.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 08:17:33 UTC No. 16302950

>>16302947
You could say the about the two party democratic system

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:37:39 UTC No. 16303004

>>16302950
No one was talking about China yet Chang.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:41:27 UTC No. 16303009

>>16303004
But China is one party communist rule? Check your bot glownigger, it's malfunctioning.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:44:29 UTC No. 16303011

starting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SntfDzw4Ml8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWQNxvCC_Y0

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:45:23 UTC No. 16303014

>>16303011
>ULA

I hope it blows up

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:46:01 UTC No. 16303015

>>16303011
1h to launch

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:46:18 UTC No. 16303016

>>16302793
due to ITAR or whatever, the launch site will have American security
who will have absolutely no qualms about gunning down some animals

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:46:26 UTC No. 16303017

>>16303014
its one of those spysats that go around geosync orbit and inspecting foreign sats

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:51:01 UTC No. 16303022

>Second stage acceptance campaign completed!

>Our final hot fire tests verified the HelixVAC engine & stage performance for flight, with a 400+ second run time & just 1% unburnt propellant at engine cut-off.

>Stage 2 is now on its way to @SaxaVord_Space!

https://x.com/rfa_space/status/1818209923400130786

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:55:20 UTC No. 16303023

>>16301211
because some people have innate urge to explore and expand while overcoming all the difficulties, you will never understand.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:08:31 UTC No. 16303029

>>16303016
>who will have absolutely no qualms about gunning down some animals

Bro, your launch site will get cancelled within 10 seconds of firing on abos. Abos here are even more precious than your sacred niggers. Also you won't even be able to build the site because it will be up north which is full of feral gibs abos and they will camp it out. Only gas companies are allowed to bulldoze abo protests, Elon stands NO chance.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:16:11 UTC No. 16303035

>>16303029
so the gas companies are allowed to solve the abo problem but you think Elon won't be able to?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:20:12 UTC No. 16303037

Did anyone save the Spanish mission control video from Miura launch?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:25:49 UTC No. 16303040

>>16303037
why did they yell "LAUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH"?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:29:07 UTC No. 16303042

>>16302584
We're sending the same infrastructure we'd send to any other airless world to mine, similar to plans for the moon. Oh and people and equipment to do the mining.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:31:24 UTC No. 16303043

>>16302764
>free
>pay

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:34:31 UTC No. 16303046

>>16303035
Gas companies are deeply embedded with all our politicians, allowed to do almost anything. Elon is basically the antichrist here, he had to beg, plead and sneed for something as basic as a storage battery and only got it though by the skin of his teeth. Draw your conclusion.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:37:04 UTC No. 16303048

>>16303046
it's actually because the US State Department is in bed with the oil&gas companies, and there's a 50% chance that the US administration will go to bat for Elon here depending on who's in charge

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:37:59 UTC No. 16303049

>Turn on ULA stream for a launch
>Some morbidly obese black woman doing weather forecast

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:39:36 UTC No. 16303050

we gaan

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:39:49 UTC No. 16303051

>>16303049
the timer has said 4 minutes for the last half an hour

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:39:57 UTC No. 16303052

>>16303049
SHE THIICCCCCCCCCCCCCC

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:40:29 UTC No. 16303054

>>16303048
Bro, we don't even sell our oil, gas and coal to you LMAO. It all goes to Japan, SEA and China. You have literally nothing to do with our resource economy.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:40:49 UTC No. 16303055

>>16303051
Welcome to ULA launches, son.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:41:50 UTC No. 16303056

>>16303049
a cross section of America, representation matters!

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:41:51 UTC No. 16303057

>>16303054
all countries belong to America

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:42:14 UTC No. 16303058

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhfwTfUseVw
>July 30 LIVE Broadcast: Atlas V USSF-51

official stream
3min to launch

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:42:52 UTC No. 16303059

THEY'RE ACTUALLY STARTING THE COUNTDOWN

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:44:02 UTC No. 16303060

>>16303058

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:44:35 UTC No. 16303061

It's gonna scrub

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:44:51 UTC No. 16303063

>>16303058
for me, it's clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zch2So5ez2w

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:45:02 UTC No. 16303064

inb4 anomaly

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:45:14 UTC No. 16303065

>>16303057
OK but China owns us now so I guess not.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:45:36 UTC No. 16303066

ignition and liftoff

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:46:38 UTC No. 16303067

frosty

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:46:53 UTC No. 16303068

>>16303042
retard

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:47:39 UTC No. 16303069

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:47:43 UTC No. 16303070

>>16303068
I accept your concession.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:48:41 UTC No. 16303071

SRB jettison

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:49:48 UTC No. 16303073

>>16303071
Do these land on a barge or back at launch site?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:49:49 UTC No. 16303075

>video feed has ended because of the security situation
its over

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:49:54 UTC No. 16303076

>>16303070
I hope to God you stay on Earth

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:50:16 UTC No. 16303077

>>16303073
yes

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:51:42 UTC No. 16303079

>>16303076
Planning to go look for fossilized life on mars. Whats your space plans?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:53:32 UTC No. 16303081

OMG IT'S SO SECRET WE CAN'T EVEN SHOW YOU THE MECO

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:54:07 UTC No. 16303082

>>16303075
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:57:30 UTC No. 16303084

>ULA can be kino
Why did no one tell me
>>16303079
I probably missed the boat on being part of the Mars labor force. By the time they're accepting people with my qualifications (normal engineering degree guy) I'll be too old. I am betting on a moon vacation in my retirement though. If it gets down to $50k a trip inflation (or change in currency) adjusted then I'll likely be able to do it. I doubt any stations will be large/developed enough for reasonably priced tourism in my lifetime

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:58:20 UTC No. 16303085

This was leagues better than the best Falcon 9 launch. Absolute snakino

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:05:03 UTC No. 16303090

>>16303085
I know you're baiting, but I'll post anyway.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:05:33 UTC No. 16303091

>>16303084
>If it gets down to $50k a trip inflation

Lol lmao even by the time getting semi basic retards off world in significant amounts is possible, its going to be like $500k trip minimum adjusted for paper jew money, hope you have chosen your investments wisely and aren't stacking printed inflationary war money like a moron.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:10:37 UTC No. 16303096

>>16303091
I'm talking about 50 years from now, when Starship has had thousands of flights instead of four. Or arguably 0

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:11:19 UTC No. 16303098

>>16303091
I think 150000$ tickets might be plausible in my lifetime
t. in 20s

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:12:09 UTC No. 16303099

>>16303096
>50 years from now

Would you like me to post the historical inflation chart for the previous 50? Spoiler: you don't

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:12:37 UTC No. 16303100

>>16303098
You think 50 years of SpaceX progress, with at least 20-30 years of Elon driving it, will still leave the price that high?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:12:55 UTC No. 16303101

>>16303084
personally I'm just blue collar and know how to scuba dive

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:13:38 UTC No. 16303102

>>16303099
None of my assets are in currency dumbass. That isn't even what we're talking about. Holy shit what a retard

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:13:51 UTC No. 16303103

>>16303100
You gotta take into account inflation.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:14:51 UTC No. 16303104

>>16303101
Unironically they will send guys like you before the PhDs. We've been doing science remotely the entire time and some desk faggot is not going to be useful for spending 12 hours in a pressure suit setting up an air miner

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:15:05 UTC No. 16303106

>>16303084
I'm already too old for frontier work so I'll just stow away in the pressurised cargo compartment then make my living as a jack-of-all trades

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:15:22 UTC No. 16303107

Starship v50 will likely have some kind of nuclear propulsion. Also the current design is ludicrous for deep space missions.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:15:44 UTC No. 16303108

>>16303090
?That's not AtlasV?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:15:44 UTC No. 16303109

>>16303104
I need to start filling out my dive book at some point in the next ten years lol

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:16:30 UTC No. 16303110

>>16303102
>None of my assets are in currency dumbass

Nice, good for you, I hope you have some hard assets and not just overvalued stocks! Also that is exactly what we are talking about. I hope whatever you have invested in outperforms the ugly vertical inflation line, good luck because everyone is going to need it!

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:16:42 UTC No. 16303111

>>16303107
Fold-out plasma magnet nacelles

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:21:20 UTC No. 16303115

>>16303100
Take a look at what a house cost in 1974 and compare it to the same house now. Housing is the most accurate expression of inflation. Now extrapolate for another 50 years but make it much, much worse since in the near future interest payments will become 60-70%+ of GDP (see PRINT LOTS OF MONEY TO PAY DEBTS).

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:26:23 UTC No. 16303116

>>16303103
Yeah but you don't know what inflation will be so when you talk about this stuff you need to just use current dollars. Otherwise we discussion becomes impossible
>>16303110
I don't have any assets in stocks either. Why are you acting like a cursory glance at /biz/ is some arcane financial knowledge

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:29:03 UTC No. 16303117

>>16303116
>no currency
>no stocks

I hope for your sake you aren't invested in real estate, but judging by your self satisfied, smug attitude I expect that's exactly what you are balls deep in. Oh dear.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:29:35 UTC No. 16303118

>ULA: 3 launches in 7 months
>SpaceX: 3 launches in 36 hours
So much for competition

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:32:06 UTC No. 16303119

>>16303116
>Yeah but you don't know what inflation will be
What I can see is the trendline for the past century and make a prediction where the price will be based on that.
If you did that 50 years ago today your prediction would've been pretty accurate.
I'd bet a substantial amount a prediction you made for 50 years out today based on the trendline would be pretty accurate.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:34:20 UTC No. 16303120

>>16303116
>Yeah but you don't know what inflation will be so when you talk about this stuff you need to just use current dollars

Holy financial moron LMAO, want to make a trend line on this chart mr finance phd?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:34:33 UTC No. 16303121

>>16303117
Maybe he's a silver stacker

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:39:28 UTC No. 16303122

>>16303121
No precious metal bro talks like that moron

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:41:39 UTC No. 16303125

>>16303117
Industrial real estate in rapidly growing regions of the US. High capex low opex. Somewhat insulated from market shenanigans.
>>16303121
>>16303122
I have as big a silver stack as my wife will let me lol
>>16303120
No one said inflation doesn't exist, I'm just saying that you can't have a useful discussion about cost measured in dollars unless you ignore it.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:02:05 UTC No. 16303146

>>16303110
stocks are partly ownership in hard assets and I would say they are generally safer

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:07:44 UTC No. 16303155

>>16303125
>I have as big a silver stack as my wife will let me lol
Never mind her. On Mars you can have a new space wife

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:08:28 UTC No. 16303156

>>16302377
is this permanentor only for launches?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:10:04 UTC No. 16303157

>>16303125
>No one said inflation doesn't exist, I'm just saying that you can't have a useful discussion about cost measured in dollars unless you ignore it.

The fuck are you even talking about? This is the most dumb shit I have ever read.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:34:53 UTC No. 16303170

>>16303156
if I had to guess (too lazy to read), this is something that has already been happening for launches and yes only during launches, in the future for landings I guess too

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:40:42 UTC No. 16303174

>>16303125
>No one said inflation doesn't exist, I'm just saying that you can't have a useful discussion about cost measured in dollars unless you ignore it.
>you can't have a useful discussion about the future value of this paper money unless you ignore it's previous half century of massive inflation and predicted inflation for the next half century based off extortionate debt repayments and the history of all fiat currencies ever

Yeah, I'm thinking you should just McFucking kill yourself nigger. Also your shit is gay and you talk like a fag so you definitely have no silver/gold or any other precious metals.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:53:25 UTC No. 16303182

What the fuck is wrong with you people
>>16303157
are you the pluto fag? you might just be irreconcilably stupid
>>16303174
>useful discussion about the future value of this paper money
That's not what we were talking about you fucking idiot we were talking about the value of a trip to the moon. The most convenient way to measure the value of something is in dollars. Inflation is a change in the value of the unit of financial measurement, and real assets maintain the same inherent value as the dollar value changes around them. Therefore the currency is completely and utterly irrelevant to technical discussions which are about inherent value (moon trip vs income, moon trip vs assets).
And yeah I have had a gold and silver stack since 2019

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:55:38 UTC No. 16303188

/biz/ autismos get out
None of this is spaceflight

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:56:26 UTC No. 16303190

>>16302548
>lives in a Chinese colony
>surrounded by Chinese people every day
>all real estate is owned by the Chinese
>"the Chinese can't do shit"
interesting perspective

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:56:36 UTC No. 16303191

>>16303182
real assets do not maintain the same inherent value and change with the circumstances as well

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:59:35 UTC No. 16303194

>>16303191
Which is why you just apply current value to everything when having a discussion like this. It doesn't make sense to add extra variables that we don't know. You could've said a moon trip would cost 3.4 gold ingots and I could say well in 2037 they discover a gold deposit in North Dakota so it's actually 5.6 gold ingots per flight. We're just talking about future Starship cost relative to current Starship cost. We all know what inflation is

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:59:35 UTC No. 16303195

>>16302655
t. Japanese girl non enjoyer
you don't even merit my contempt

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:05:42 UTC No. 16303197

>>16303029
>unnecessary gasoline pipeline just outside the security perimeter springs a difficult to fix leak for no obvious reason
>low racial resistance to petrol ends any attempt at "organized" protest

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:09:10 UTC No. 16303201

>>16303197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt0NcaxmGHo

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:10:12 UTC No. 16303203

>>16303043
When you eat a free sample at the grocery store, someone pays for it. Aside from natural resources it is generally the case that anything free is provided by someone, often at considerable expense. (Free objects in the mathematical sense are no exception: they're either natural resources hanging out in some Platonic realm or someone is creating them in their head)

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:10:15 UTC No. 16303204

>>16303201
just pay them off with some petrol

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:13:57 UTC No. 16303211

>>16303182
>That's not what we were talking about you fucking idiot we were talking about the value of a trip to the moon. The most convenient way to measure the value of something is in dollars. Inflation is a change in the value of the unit of financial measurement, and real assets maintain the same inherent value as the dollar value changes around them. Therefore the currency is completely and utterly irrelevant to technical discussions which are about inherent value (moon trip vs income, moon trip vs assets).

Most brutally retarded or gaslighting post I have ever read with my own two eyes

Holy fuck

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:15:36 UTC No. 16303213

>>16303211
No one was saying inflation didn't exist, just that it was completely irrelevant to the discussion. Which it is. This is /sfg/ not /biz/

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:17:08 UTC No. 16303214

>>16303201
The first SpaceX mission landing in Australia should be called rendezvous with rama rama

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:17:09 UTC No. 16303215

>>16303201
yeah nah they fakin sleep in the road mate

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:18:46 UTC No. 16303217

>>16303213
How is inflation irrelevant to the purchasing power of INSERT FIAT CURRENCY HERE in 50 years time?

Please do elaborate

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:25:13 UTC No. 16303226

>>16303217
Because no one was talking about the purchasing power of the currency, God damn. I've explained this like three times now, I think you're just too stupid to understand it

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:27:02 UTC No. 16303228

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vwC90DrPD8
>Ship 30 Rolled Back for Launch Preparations | SpaceX Boca Chica

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:28:51 UTC No. 16303230

>>16303201
This is incentive enough for indigenous people everywhere, its proven. Just look at what Listerine and a few shiny things did to the injuns in North America. I cannot think of a more bribe-able people than a bunch of rural illiterates who will have an epic windfall for voting 1% of their barren land gets fenced and another petrol complex and town for SpaceX bros gets built. Australia is a natural partner for Starship, should they choose to accept it.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:28:51 UTC No. 16303231

>>16303228
2 weeks?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:30:18 UTC No. 16303232

Behead inflation posters. Roundhouse kick inflation posters into the concrete. Throw inflation posters into a volcano. Curb stomp pregnant black inflation posters. Slice inflation posters with a katana. Slam dunk an inflation poster baby into the trash can. Push old inflation posters down the stairs. Vaporize inflation posters with a ray gun.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:32:46 UTC No. 16303234

>>16303231
2 weeks to get the stack ready, 2 months to wait for FAA to mosify the license for catch attempt

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:35:48 UTC No. 16303238

>>16303226
What are you even talking about? You are so stupid it's hard to quantify.

>>16303232
Yeah thay would be great, how about we start by not using a paper currency that is infinity printed from nothing at the whims of megacorps and banks? Sounds great

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:36:46 UTC No. 16303239

>>16303228
Is this the ship for IFT-5?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:37:25 UTC No. 16303240

>>16303234
and then destack, stack, destack, stack, destack and final stack

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:39:47 UTC No. 16303243

>>16303239
yes, ship 30

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:46:36 UTC No. 16303248

>>16303238
not space flight

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:47:25 UTC No. 16303250

>>16303248
Neither was your post dumb cunt

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:50:19 UTC No. 16303256

>>16303250
I haven't posted I just woke up. Try keeping it space flight related

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:55:38 UTC No. 16303263

>>16303256
Cool story bro

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:08:48 UTC No. 16303272

>long duration mission ready
ohhh I was wondering why they were up there for so long

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:13:11 UTC No. 16303277

>>16303272
They really spending taxpayer money to advertise a capsule that no one can ever buy, can't make this shit up

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:13:46 UTC No. 16303278

>>16301567
And? It's still large enough to theoretically do everything we do on Earth on. Even the smallest rounded moons can have multiple large cities.
>>16301222
Why?
>>16301301
Jupiter moonmogs every other planet, but Titan mogs every other moon.
>>16302895
No point. We will have a human colony in the Jovian system before anyone sets foot on Mercury.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:20:46 UTC No. 16303284

>>16303277
Well actually if you consider inflation then the average person will be able to buy a seat

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:22:23 UTC No. 16303286

>>16303278
>Why?
Mostly because if you can get starships to mars and have refueling infrastructure set up then doing a moon landing on the Martian moons is trivially easy. Starship itself has about 7800 km/s deltav, with that you can a mission to either phobos or deimos easily, hell if you do an orbital refueling then you can do both in one go.
A Martian colony will have a lot of excess launch capacity, might as well do some moon landings to see what we can learn/flex on the urthers.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:22:55 UTC No. 16303287

>>16303272
>mission ready
>safely
>sustainably
>leading the future of commercial spaceflight
wow

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:25:51 UTC No. 16303292

>>16303272
>>16303277
>>16303287
Support American talent, no matter what.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:29:07 UTC No. 16303298

>>16303286
>Why?
>Because you can
That's a good enough reason for me but I doubt it'll happen any time soon. All Mars resources will be devoted to building up a full industrial stack. The only thing valuable enough to justify launching a Starship from Mars is people, otherwise they wouldn't do it at all. Once Mars is fully industrialized though those shitty moons are probably going to be turned into gravel to be placed outside a steel cylinder and wrapped in kevlar either as a cycler or habitat

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:30:47 UTC No. 16303299

Anyone know the rough difference in broadband latency (ms) between Starlinks at 500km and O3b mPOWER at 8000km MEO?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:32:00 UTC No. 16303302

>>16303284
B8/8

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:34:12 UTC No. 16303303

>>16303299
50ms right? Just light speed?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:37:35 UTC No. 16303306

https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1818289261122138485/

>>16303299
Starlink avg is ~20-30ms right now. O3b is probably close to ~150ms or so.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:43:27 UTC No. 16303318

>NASA discovered in ground testing that the thrusters melt

>Boeing couldn't have possibly discovered this in ground testing

>just don't fire the thrusters goy

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:44:08 UTC No. 16303321

>>16303306
what evidence do we have for that olm redesign?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:49:23 UTC No. 16303331

>>16302614
>Starship block2
more like Black2

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:50:43 UTC No. 16303334

>>16303228
they really need to build a parallel road

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:50:45 UTC No. 16303335

>>16303331
Fail quads

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:50:51 UTC No. 16303336

wtf you can’t just “launch” a rocket, think about the sonic booms think about the industrial water discharge, I’d rather us fix problems here on earth

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:50:55 UTC No. 16303337

>>16303318
Another boing moment

Those niggas dead

F

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:53:58 UTC No. 16303342

>>16303336
Cool crabs, did you take one home?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:54:04 UTC No. 16303343

>>16303318
okay but isn’t this the third time they’ve sent the capsule to space?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:55:25 UTC No. 16303345

>>16303336
what happened to this crab bucket post?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 14:59:30 UTC No. 16303351

>>16303318
I have an insider (I know I know)

It's not good

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:08:00 UTC No. 16303358

>>16303345
I'm not a janny but it looked like trolling outside /b/ to me.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:38:11 UTC No. 16303415

Tianlong 3 pathfinder - doesn't have engines, it's just for testing GSE.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:47:53 UTC No. 16303420

>>16303272
Literally all of that is a flat out lie. Could they be liable? Can I sue for false advertising?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:48:40 UTC No. 16303421

>>16303415
wish.com rocket ship

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 17:15:57 UTC No. 16303436

>>16303415
Amazing how this took below orbit 23 years

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 17:30:17 UTC No. 16303446

>>16303436
don't be so rude, they got side tracked making a human rated sounding rocket

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 17:31:52 UTC No. 16303448

>>16303446
Is it really that hard to take the leap from a human rated sounding rod to a human rated sounding rocket?

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 17:57:30 UTC No. 16303461

Did anyone even realize an Atlas launched recently

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 17:59:58 UTC No. 16303464

Russians not saying anything about the stranded astronauts is kind of a dick move

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 18:01:06 UTC No. 16303465

SMART reuse is just around the corner, right?