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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16332789

Propellantless propulsion edition

https://youtu.be/T8ghnnCRQJs

Anonymous No. 16332791

These men claim to have a drive which in 25 to 30 years means we will all have our own personal flying vehicles that require no fuel, and could see you live in florida and work in China and then be back home in time for dinner. Spread the word

Anonymous No. 16332792

>Propellantless propulsion
Let's ignore Newton's second law, the thread

Anonymous No. 16332799

>>16332792
Dogmatic thinking.

Anonymous No. 16333028

>>16332791
i claim to have a harem of cosplaying maids desperate to cater to my every whim

Anonymous No. 16333059

>>16333028
Me too :) big titty version tho

Anonymous No. 16333071

>>16332789
Very soon...

Anonymous No. 16333100

>>16333071
If they had the funding they could fast track it. As is they think it'll be 20 to 30 odd years before we have personal antigrav cars assuming the state doesn't interfere( which you can beg your life on it will). so maybe never unless we dismantle the current government and intelligence agencies and replace it with something like hoppean libertarianism( the only libertarianism that is actually tenable,I'll leave a link if you want a quick primer on its ideas, here)

https://youtu.be/C2HkpPAvw0E

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Anonymous No. 16333117

>>16332791
>in 25 to 30 years
That's odd cause 60 years ago we were only 10 years away from flying cars for everybody.

I like the idea that we've had the ability to mass produce "flying cars" since we reverse engineered the wreckage of the Roswell incident, but the government decided making this technology publicly available would have too many undesirable consequences.
For example, instead of using ICBMs to send nukes across the planet, anyone could do it in mere seconds and in stealth mode! It's sad to think this way but maybe somethings are just not meant for human beings.

Anonymous No. 16333119

/sfg/ is still on page 4
>>16331535

Anonymous No. 16333135

>>16333119
Smart money is in this thread

Anonymous No. 16333146

>>16333100
First we will have to max out fossil fuel industry, then we will have to max out the EV industry, then we will have max out the nuclear industry, After that maybe we can move on to anti grav.

>>16333117
Yeah, imagine zipping in and out of a place.That's scary.

Anonymous No. 16333153

>>16333146
>First we will have to max out fossil fuel industry, then we will have to max out the EV industry, then we will have max out the nuclear industry, After that maybe we can move on to anti grav.

Please no...;_;
Hopefully these guys manage to get the funding and make something which is un ignorable which grabs the world's attention and peopel start demanding it. Get the cat out of the bag before they come down with a case of the suicides

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Anonymous No. 16333173

I would so love to live in the middle of nowhere, like deep in the woods of BC or the steppe of Mongolia in a wooden house constructed by skilled craftsmen who flew( floated?) Out there and then fucked off. Total peace. And when I need necessities I hop in tesla hover edition and am off to the nicest grocery store in Europe in an hour rather than 18 and then back home in another hour dining on a delicious pizza in a house surrounded by terrain that couldn't even grow a tomatoe. Total independence, I fantasize about that often.

Anonymous No. 16333194

>>16333117
Borders would need insane policing in the sky, yes, but i don't think that's excuse enough to justify denying this the world. Maybe you're free to fly within the boarders of your nation/ states/ union, but if you want to go international you must clear a flight plan or be shot down by some orbital defense system when you breech the designated barrier

Anonymous No. 16333198

>>16333117
> the idea that we've had the ability to mass produce "flying cars" since we reverse engineered the wreckage of the Roswell incident

Yeap they definitely have that tech. Saving it for ww3 I bet. Fuckers.

Anonymous No. 16333199

>>16333146
>Yeah, imagine zipping in and out of a place.That's scary.
You sure told that strawman what's what anon!! Next time call him a fag too.

Anonymous No. 16333239

>>16332792
Newton also believed in the kabbalah.
I'm not sure how reliable he really was.

Anonymous No. 16333253

>>16333239
So does trump...might have to start looking into it myself. help me I'm poor

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16333270

/m/ is leaking

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Anonymous No. 16333363

I love them.

Anonymous No. 16333370

>>16332791
These men are either running a scam or are deluding themselves.

Anonymous No. 16333371

>>16333117
We don’t have personal aircraft for the common not because we lack a technological ability to make them - but because no government would allow it to be, for a variety of reasons.
Heck, even a regular cars are on their way to be phased out so that they can only be for the few.

Anonymous No. 16333372

>>16333173
>helicopters
>private jets

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Anonymous No. 16333422

JUICE flies past the Moon in less than one hour.

https://blogs.esa.int/rocketscience/2024/08/19/join-us-live-as-juice-flies-past-the-moon/

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Anonymous No. 16333617

they promised men on mars this year

now its an empty dragon in 2 weeks ? lol

Anonymous No. 16333652

>>16333371
It's actually a miracle cars where permitted in the first place. Much too much autonomy for the average prole. You mean you can go anywhere you want without notice?! Ban it!

Anonymous No. 16333691

>>16333173
>total independence

>can't grow his own food and is totally dependent on grocery stores

Anonymous No. 16333696

>>16332792
Laws only apply until they don't.

Anonymous No. 16333705

>>16333696
wtf when did /sci/ become based

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Anonymous No. 16333901

Sloppy job. I would've gone with
>Elon Musk is quietly sending unqualified first timers on a deadly mission to test his spacesuits for the first time in the vacuum of space for 5 whole days

Anonymous No. 16333915

>>16333691
Independence to choose where to live obv. But with some of these purported technologies, you could have a ' over unity ' engine pulling energy from the vacuum from space time br able to power your home indefinitely. Thay way you could have intensive irrigation and power needs taken care of to grown you own crop anywhere, even the arctic inside pollytunnels.

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Anonymous No. 16333923

>>16333370
>running a scam
not likely, have you seen the sheer amount of work they put into those styrofoam devices over several years, testing all those different configurations and testing in a vacuum chamber tirelessly for years?
>deluding themselves
most likely

Anonymous No. 16333926

>>16333922
>the big ones scare me anyway

Anonymous No. 16333928

>>16333923
They don't seem stupid enough to chase delusions

Anonymous No. 16333932

>>16333928
That too, plus the whole QI thing and the IVO drive which the Exodus guy lowkey called them out for basing their drive off their patents, they all seem related and it's like theres an air of legitimacy there, so I'm optimistically skeptical about it

in-space tests or bust, funniest outcome would be it actually working and all the physicists seething about "muh laws"

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Anonymous No. 16333933

stop its already dead

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Anonymous No. 16333934

>>16333801
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1825728075243598071
>I'm not sure that's an intentional depressurization, if you look at the side of the rocket where the flame emerges from there's no visible vent in the structure, but there is a propellent line.

Anonymous No. 16333941

>>16333932
>actually working and all the physicists seething about "muh laws"
I'm looking forward to the fucking cope. They tie their identities and self worth to dogma, shitheads. Always the most arrogant and dismissive that lot.

Anonymous No. 16333945

>>16333941
>They tie their identities and self worth to dogma

lol exactly, they'd be the first to miss something that goes against their great dark matter idol, not surprised if it takes outsider science like McCullough to dismantle that and take science out of stagnation, but by far the funniest outcome would be if both are wrong, and the drive works but its not because of QI at all, that would be something lol

Anonymous No. 16333947

>>16333932
>funniest outcome would be it actually working and all the physicists seething about "muh laws"

This would be kino

Anonymous No. 16333948

>>16333933
They just need to make it longer to increase the payload bay size, simple as.

Anonymous No. 16333951

>>16333945
>outsider science
Right. Revolutionary change never comes from the centre of a discipline, it's almost exclusively from the fringe, or from a domain entirely unrelated.
It's often a simple lack of imagination. Henry Ford said, “If I’d asked my customers what they wanted, they’d have said a faster horse”

Anonymous No. 16333952

>>16333951
In this case its the whole dark matter dogma and the constant chase for it, if it actually turns out that dark matter was a nothingburger this entire time and has only had mainstream science and theoretical physicists chasing their own tail all these years the cope would be immense lol

Anonymous No. 16333957

>>16333952
>the cope would be immense lol
A tsunami tidal wave of cope kek. Start saving crying basedjaks

Anonymous No. 16333967

>make a Jupiter moon probe
>send it on a leisurely tour of the inner solar system for half a decade before reaching Jupiter

gravity assist meme must end

Anonymous No. 16333969

>>16333967
Plasma Magnet Sail fixes this

Anonymous No. 16333971

>>16333967
Soon we'll be using exodus tech tool levitate my fat ass up a flight of stairs. Gravity and me will have a truce

Anonymous No. 16333974

>>16333952
it would be such a massive embarrassment that they could never possibly admit it. instead they will carry on with the dark matter meme eternally and will allays abuse the peer review system to ostracize anyone who develops a solution to the issue which might force them to admit they were wrong about dark matter

Anonymous No. 16333977

>>16333969
>>16333971
My wild idea is using either of these whichever is proven to work to design special craft that link up to and attach securely with these already launched probes and just give them all the delta-v they need to get to their targets asap

Anonymous No. 16333978

>>16333971
>DUDE OMG MUH ALIENZSSSTH!!!
>MUH COMIC BOOK SOIENCE FICTION MEMES!!!
when did /sfg/ turn into a star trek convention?

Anonymous No. 16333980

>>16333977
That is a good idea. Nice proof of concept too

Anonymous No. 16333981

>>16333978
Its like you wanna walk up stairs. The future us bright anon! Have some goddamn FAITH!

Anonymous No. 16333982

>>16333980
Also Oumuamua intercept probe, we're gonna find out what that fucker really was for certain.

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Anonymous No. 16333984

picrel is me soaring through the vast expanse of outer space in the marsbound starship, passing the time with droning sounds, being all around based, and making my shipmates feel an unnerving sense of dread

Anonymous No. 16333986

>>16333984
>anon's in the cargo hold playing mahler again

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Anonymous No. 16333995

thots?

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Anonymous No. 16334005

>>16333863
maybe
https://www.globalair.com/articles/a-legend-reborn-production-of-wwii-era-flying-boat-restarts-with-next-gen-catalina-ii?id=6213

Anonymous No. 16334033

>>16333984
>God damnit why is this motherfucker playing the piano AGAIN and ALWAYS during my sleep rotation
>How did he even get a piano in here anyway, it's way beyond his mass allowance
>man fuck that dude throw him out the airlock >>16333984

Anonymous No. 16334045

>>16333652
Cars restrict autonomy, no expand it jackass. The purpose of high speed freeways is to keep the ants on their trail and out of the business of government and military stations. Moron.

Anonymous No. 16334063

>>16334045
>The machine that lets you go anywhere at any time restricts freedom! You can't go places that have fences! The Automobile did this, don't you see!?

Real thonkeroo there, chap.

Anonymous No. 16334099

>>16334063
You cannot go "anywhere at any time", every word of that sentence is false. You go where the planners let you go, and it costs time and money. You drive through checkpoints at political borders. Your identity is stamped into your license plate.

Technology has zero correlation with freedom. They are completely unrelated concepts with virtually zero overlap.

Anonymous No. 16334110

>>16334063
> go anywhere at any time

So long as you follow prescribed routes with checkpoints, borders, cameras, etc... all documenting your exact type of car and unique identification plate. Meanwhile you pay the government and jew megabux to maintain the road network as well as fuelling and maintaining your car.

Wow such freedom.

Anonymous No. 16334114

>>16334110
This is why Americans hate trains, busses and other transit, they provide too much anonymity.

Anonymous No. 16334118

>>16334099
>>16334110
As opposed to mass transit, which has less flexibility, rigid schedules, cameras, and public eyes everywhere. What a sales pitch.

Anonymous No. 16334119

>>16334114
In what world is public transport anonymous? Hell they even look at you weird if you try to pay for it in cash.

Anonymous No. 16334121

>>16334118
Driving cars is no better, you are coping.

Anonymous No. 16334127

>>16334121
Coping implies you have any kind of counterargument to offer.

Anonymous No. 16334129

>>16334118
Rigid schedules, like staring at asphalt completely still for 2 hours every day

Anonymous No. 16334131

>>16334129
Even the worst traffic in the US during anything but extraordinary circumstances is nowhere near that bad.

Anonymous No. 16334139

>>16334127
You don't have one either. Big brother is watching everything. Doesn't matter if you have a car or ride the train.

Anonymous No. 16334141

>>16334131
I'm talking about your body, occupied by this rigid activity for your 50-100 mile commute

Anonymous No. 16334143

>>16333901
CBS had the most dystopian logo in the world

Anonymous No. 16334147

>>16332789
/Sfg/ thinks being strapped into a space pod and fired into the sun is freedom - because you get to go farther and faster than ever!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16334149

isnt vast supposed to launch their station next year? how's that shit coming along?

Anonymous No. 16334159

>>16333967
It's either that or cock-tease flyby missions with tiny payloads. It might change if there is a good high energy kick stage for SS.

Anonymous No. 16334162

>>16334141
Who their right mind does a 50 to 100 mile commute on a day to day, except people who enjoy driving?

Anonymous No. 16334165

>>16333901
That would have gotten them slapped with a Libel suit. SpaceX is advertising it loudly and posting tons of photos from testing.

Anonymous No. 16334167

>>16334162
>Who their right mind does a 50 to 100 mile commute on a day to day

A whole shitload of people. What planet do you live on dumb cunt?

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Anonymous No. 16334171

>>16334167
I said who in their right mind, and the answer is 1%. 5% if you round up absolutely everything over an hour.

Anonymous No. 16334175

>>16334171
Combine that group with the other group of "the worst traffic in extraordinary circumstances" and we have the larger group

Anonymous No. 16334183

>>16333173
If you can fly there so can anyone else with equivalent tech. You'd only get peace after all the shithole countries were nuked to extinction.

Anonymous No. 16334184

>>16333945
>I'm looking forward to the fucking cope.
That's funny. I remember hearing exactly the same thing with the faster than light neutrinos. People made dozens of threads about how physicists and "Einstein" were gonna be BTFO. Remind me, how did that go? Then there was the EMdrive scam, which slowly unravelled until it died. Now we have EMdrive2: Electric Boogaloo, which you think is definitely gonna work this time.

It takes an outsider like Mike because a real physicist would spot all the ridiculous errors and contradictions in his ideas. They would not publish something so obviously bullshit. Also note that the substantial part of what Mike proposed (the galaxy stuff) was published in the 80's, it's not a new idea. He just copied and pasted it, and added some sophistry.

>>16333951
>Revolutionary change never comes from the centre of a discipline, it's almost exclusively from the fringe
When has that ever been true in physics? Relativity and quantum mechanics both lead by the mainstream. They were also foreseeable. Newton was the mainstream.

Note that the universe has already spoken, the orbits of wide binary stars reject QI.
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2024MNRAS.527.4573B/abstract
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019MNRAS.488.4740P/abstract

Anonymous No. 16334187

>>16334171
Did they teach you how to do maths in high school bro?

Anonymous No. 16334195

>>16334187
>>16334175
Well, which is it? Are they making good time or bogged down in horrible slow traffic for hours? Both of these can't be true at the same time.

Anonymous No. 16334200

>>16334195
Yeah, looks like they didn't teach you maths in school. Feel bad for zoomers.

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>>16334200

Anonymous No. 16334207

>>16334205
No argument found, thanks for playing

Anonymous No. 16334208

>>16334195
you made him seethe bigly lol

Anonymous No. 16334211

>>16334208
Wow epic pwn samefag

Anonymous No. 16334212

>>16334195
You're sitting in a car either way bozo

Anonymous No. 16334213

>>16334211
boomer alert haha

Anonymous No. 16334215

>>16334212
I can confidently speak for 95% of Americans when I say "for less than an hour."

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16334229

>>16334171
If your daily commute to work lasts more than an hour one way and the money you bring home, after tax, isn’t triple digits and starts with at least “2” you’re ngmi just fucking quit man

Anonymous No. 16334262

>>16333974
That's why space flight tests are needed.

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Anonymous No. 16334281

>>16332792
>LAAAAWWW!!!!

Anonymous No. 16334287

>>16333984
Fucking kek

Makes me think of this...
Let the space illness begin, as the speed increases outside so to does our hold of reality begin to run away from us, to leave is behind... where we're going we won't need eyes to see

https://youtu.be/YIMvM8u9C-o

Anonymous No. 16334297

https://x.com/ogogcrypto/status/1643340990500012035

Anonymous No. 16334305

>>16333974
>it would be such a massive embarrassment that they could never possibly admit it.
This is nonsense. String theory was essentially what you describe and they readily admit it was embarrassing nonsense.

Anonymous No. 16334314

https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/135revf/amazing_footage_of_cylindrical_ufo_filmed_by/

Anonymous No. 16334337

>>16333967
True. The only gravity assists we should be dling are off of Jupiter in order to reach outer solar system targets faster. Getting to Jupiter should be done by direct trajectory, not fucking around in the inner planets.
Build bigger rockets with higher energy kick stages that throw heavier payloads faster, for less money.

Anonymous No. 16334346

>>16333974
>t. isn't aware of the time everyone conceded that the Aether theory was false even though decades of serious work had gone into it

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Anonymous No. 16334396

Two questions:
1) Is the Starliner decision/announcement this week? Wednesday right; or did they kick it down the road again?
2) Have we seen what the SpaceX EVA suit HUD looks like?

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Anonymous No. 16334403

>>16333363
almost a light day away (22 hrs is the actual distance/one way delay)
it’s unironically insane we’ve gotten these bubs that far and can still communicate and execute commands

Anonymous No. 16334469

>>16334401
Wrong thread? If yes, please point me to the thread this was intended for.

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handled that cloud nicely

Anonymous No. 16334481

>>16333363
>>16334403
Make me cautiously optimistic that probes to Alpha Centauri could work

>>16334401
/sfg/ and autism, name a better duo

Anonymous No. 16334483

>>16334481
the deep deep deep space network lol

Anonymous No. 16334485

https://youtu.be/y66XRSRjq0c

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>>16333363

Anonymous No. 16334489

>>16334486
SOVL

Anonymous No. 16334493

Now that mass budgets aren’t a problem we should slingshot a super heavy armored probe as close to the sun as possible, with more than double the RTG nuclear fuel as the voyagers (which already have a lot)
We could get these babies so far so quickly and explore way past the voyagers ever could

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>>16334401
you cant escape the homestuck even in space

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>>16333100

> /sfg/ is infested by a pack of loopy libertarians that think they will use their silver dimes to buy an anti-gravity space buggy powered by hydrogen peroxide.

Anonymous No. 16334498

>>16334493
is there any other method to power deep space probes besides radioisotope thermal generators? Or is that literally it.
Spicy earth rocks or bust I guess.

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Spoiler: Starships. Lots and lots of Starships.

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4844/1

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>>16334511
This is so wonderful, the first indian borthday in space

Anonymous No. 16334535

>>16334511
Do they light a candle on a cupcake or something up there? Surely they must have celebrated in some way.

Anonymous No. 16334539

>>16334503
I wonder how many Starship launches you need to get a full tanker in low Mars orbit. As the author mentions, in the long term, nuclear-electric tugs seem to be the logical solution. Maybe SpaceX will do eventually do that themselves?

Anonymous No. 16334546

>reality is a psychoreactive hologram with hyperspace and multiple timelines
>psychic abilities are real
>telepathy, remote viewing, telekinesis, bilocation, astral projection, levitation, teleportation, manifestation
>neurons have quantum computers in the microtubules
>human cells have scalar waves in the mitochondria, possibly zero-point energy
>technology exists based on these principles
>ufos
>ufos range from simple drones to invisible hyperspace military labs
>ufos potentially have access to all the psychic physics abilities
>ufos levitate, and some can astral project and timeline shift
>ufos use zero-point energy and electromagnetic gravitics
>ufos have synthetic telepathy systems
>ufos can operate invisibly as a hyperdimensional hologram and manipulate 3D reality in ways that include remote manifestation and timeline shifting
>the technology appears to be shared by the military and 3D aliens, with the aliens having better technology

Anonymous No. 16334557

>>16334539
You need 15 launches to fully fuel one starship already in LEO, and that only gives you about 7km/s of ∆v. It's 3 or 4 to mars, plus whatever it costs to capture in a reasonable orbit. I'd say you'd need 3 or 4 of those trips so 45-60 launches

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Anonymous No. 16334583

"How"? More like "If".

Anonymous No. 16334586

>>16332789
It's infrared video, the thing you see is super hot.
I wonder why people make things super hot the expelled them, if only there were a word for the stuff we burned to propel oneself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwOMwAGVwvs

Anonymous No. 16334593

>>16334557

The MSR cost estimate is $10 billion and climbing. SpaceX is driving for a marginal cost of a Starship launch sub $1 million. That difference buys a lot of launches.

Anonymous No. 16334609

>>16334546
Big if true

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I was sorting my images and found this gem of a post from last year. I decided that I want people to see it again.

Anonymous No. 16334622

>>16334609
>there are native astral entities in hyperspace that are not well understood, possibly reality embedded AIs
>this could additionally be a simulation, with a base reality

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>>16334622
Now you lost me

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>>16334593
>marginal cost of a Starship launch sub $1 million
Hope it will happen, but not holding my breath for that. Sub $10 millions would still be pretty nice.

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https://x.com/aang254/status/1825768565594603946
>With ~260 frames received from JUICE at Bochum @amsatdl overnight, here's an animation of the full moon flyby from 2 point of views! It seems the data can be RGB, so it should be quite nice for Earth data later.

Anonymous No. 16334647

>>16334593
Doesn’t it burn like $900,000 in propellant at bulk market rates every flight?

Anonymous No. 16334652

>>16334642
whenever I see videos of celestial body flybys I always like to imagine the spacecraft yeling "WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" as it rockets by

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>>16334652
I do the same but include the doppler effect of the "woo" changing as it flies by

Anonymous No. 16334665

hear me out: private dragon flight to the chinese station

Anonymous No. 16334672

>>16333967
Refueled Starship can launch directly. Plus you can use it to aerocapture when you get there before releasing the payload

Anonymous No. 16334674

>>16334583
Funny enough they dont need the suits. They could return in a cargo dragon with no suits, and they absolutely would if the ISS was exploding

Anonymous No. 16334686

>>16334546
Cool

Anonymous No. 16334688

>>16334497
Peabrained authoritarian detected. Remember to vote red! Or blue...doesn't matter. Keep paying taxes cattle

Anonymous No. 16334689

>>16334586
The uap surface is ambient temperature

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>>16334159
this is the only way flybys should be done

Anonymous No. 16334699

>>16334621
Thanks for showing it to me anon.

Anonymous No. 16334741

>>16334674

Could at additional risk. The suits are used in case of a depressurization, and yes that has happened.

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Anonymous No. 16334743

aerostat

Anonymous No. 16334745

>>16334689
Then it wouldn't be blowing out the image in infrared. It's colder in the high atmosphere at plane cruising altitude, conveniently exactly where it is.

Anonymous No. 16334752

>still no announcement of a (rotating) SpaceX Station
It's over.

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Anonymous No. 16334753

>>16334743
border patrol spy balloon

Anonymous No. 16334759

>still no announcement of a (non-rotating, non-Euclidean) SpaceX Station
It's over

Anonymous No. 16334766

>still no announcement of an artificially created SpaceX planet

Anonymous No. 16334792

>>16334741
Pussies need not apply in outer space. Get a new job

Anonymous No. 16334796

>Still no announcement of OFT-5 launch date
This is hella grim my dudes

Anonymous No. 16334841

>>16334745
Dunno if forgot the reasoning, you'll need to Dave farvor the pilot who took those images

https://youtu.be/5HInaJxFxWs

Anonymous No. 16334883

>>16334498
Coal

Anonymous No. 16334889

>>16334647
Not if they make their own.

Anonymous No. 16334894

>>16334665
What docking ports does the Tiangong use? Some russian variant?

Anonymous No. 16334900

>>16334498
https://x.com/RollsRoyce/status/1804199223191105978

Anonymous No. 16334906

>>16334546
Each of us is a terminal, and the universe is our collective simulacra. And as you can see, normalfags ruin everything.

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Anonymous No. 16334909

"And I will answer -- Nyet."

Anonymous No. 16334922

>>16334894
The Chinese use mostly the same specs as the IDA ports on the ISS, but there's a lot of weirdo details that keep the supposedly androgynous Dragon and Starliner ports from linking up, so there'd probably be some minor incompatibility that keeps Dragon from linking up with Tiangong.

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>>16334909
https://x.com/Roberto05246129/status/1825305661237792996
>Footage of the launch of the 9M723 Iskander-M SRBM

I know it's pol bait, but it's still fun watching the Russians take some lessons from China on how to film rocket launches

Anonymous No. 16334936

>>16334922
I wonder if that's because they're paranoid about foreign entities docking with their station.

Anonymous No. 16334941

>>16334900
How does it work?
This is just a string of buzzwords with an accompanying CGI video that isn’t technical whatsoever. I can also handwave a “micro reactor” to investors to “enable a net carbon neutral future and meet the growing energy demands with emphasis on reduced operating volume and high energy output desirability” or whatever else you need to say to get money

Anonymous No. 16334946

>>16334909
Desperate for work just like their buddies in Yuzhmash that they ran out of town kek

Anonymous No. 16334948

>>16334941
Yea I just posted that as a laugh, it's total bs. RR did that to bump up their stock price no doubt

Anonymous No. 16334949

>>16334948
Like LockMart going through that period a decade ago where they were hyping up their non-existent fusion reactor lol

Anonymous No. 16334955

>>16334949
Yeap. Fuck off with this shit, show it or shut up.
Like the guys in op's post, show a working model of your 'exodus' drive before saying you can fly halfway across the world and back in under an hour

Anonymous No. 16334965

Do RTGs have a 100% efficiency rate?

Anonymous No. 16334990

>>16334965
no, thermocouple efficiency is relatively bad (and limited by thermodynamic laws anyway)

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Anonymous No. 16335007

>>16334752
>he doesn't know

Anonymous No. 16335015

>>16334965
>he doesn't know about the carnot efficiency equation
ngmi

Anonymous No. 16335040

>>16334900
>>16334941
It's literally just a small scale fission reactor. Nothing scifi. They avoid saying nuclear because people are irrational.
Actual reactors for space over RTGs would be an improvement through, but this isn't for that.

Anonymous No. 16335043

>>16334990
I’ve never figured out how thermocouples work in this instance. What is the mechanism that takes hot rocks and converts that heat to electricity?

Anonymous No. 16335059

>>16335043
There's clever little guys living on the surface of the semiconductor.
They call them Maxwell's demons.
What they do is they take the unstructured high-entropy movement of molecules (heat) and turn that into structured low-entropy electron flow (electricity).

Anonymous No. 16335298

>>16335015
Speaking of Carnot, this KARNO thing seems like it'd be a pretty great fit for an NEP power cycle in space if you used a reactor fed heat-exchanger as the external source instead of burning stuff.

https://www.hyliion.com/karno/

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Anonymous No. 16335309

>>16332789

Anonymous No. 16335326

why is there a giant statue of elon at starbase now

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Anonymous No. 16335329

oh fuck it actually is a cryptoscammer

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Anonymous No. 16335333

the chris chan of cryptoscammers

Anonymous No. 16335341

>>16335329
>>16335333
nahhh blud looks so goofy :skull:

Anonymous No. 16335347

>>16332791
Newtons laws are human dog food science that only shows humans lack of cognitive abilities to decipher the greatest secrets of the universe

We’re talking about alien science bitch!

Anonymous No. 16335352

>>16335333
>making a bust out of the meme drawing
eh 4/10 for effort but it's still hideous

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16335394

>>16335333
Chain these cryptoniggers to the OLM on IFT5. TCD.

Anonymous No. 16335398

Europa clipper is actually huge wtf

Anonymous No. 16335417

>>16335347
Hell yeah. It's only the law until it gets broken

Anonymous No. 16335435

>>16335333
why would they go through so much trouble of getting that thing made, and not even bother to get a model that looks correct?

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Anonymous No. 16335437

>>16335435
its supposed to be this

Anonymous No. 16335438

>>16335437
why would they make a giant statue of a bad drawing of the man?

Anonymous No. 16335447

>>16334099
>>16334110
None of this applied in the days of the Model T. Where a horse wagon could go, so could the Model T, even off road no problem.

Anonymous No. 16335457

>>16335438
It's a meme.
The drawing was done by someone who claimed Elon was his hero.
Elon acknowledged it and it's been reposted again and again either as mentions to Elon or as replies to his tweets.

Anonymous No. 16335461

>>16335437
The original of this thing is going to get tracked down in 50 years and sold at auction for 80,000,000 lunar yen

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Anonymous No. 16335464

What the hell is going on up there?

Anonymous No. 16335467

>>16335464
>send poos into space
>suddenly shit
we warned you

Anonymous No. 16335475

>>16335464
Indian Space Station

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Anonymous No. 16335481

>>16335394
Teatime in the flame trench.

Anonymous No. 16335527

>>16335464
designated shitting station

Anonymous No. 16335531

>>16335464
This is unironically every indian's dream

Anonymous No. 16335554

>>16333984
me as well

Anonymous No. 16335678

>you will never have a qt autistic japanese girlfriend like Clear to watch rocket launches with
Bros...

Anonymous No. 16335686

>>16335678
It's categorically over

Anonymous No. 16335692

>>16335678
i found an albanian girl for now

Anonymous No. 16335730

>>16333239
>Newton also believed in the kabbalah.
what the heck Newton was a Jew?

Anonymous No. 16335733

>>16335692
are you a drug addict

Anonymous No. 16335734

>>16335733
not yet

Anonymous No. 16335744

>>16335733
Be careful, there's one Marxist who will throw around slurs to act like he's an oldfag but really he's a loser.who wamts to dominate the whole thread and force a narrative

Anonymous No. 16335783

>>16335692
>>16335733
>>16335744
am i missing a reference here?

Anonymous No. 16335825

>>16335464
Doesn't everyone on ISS drink recycles urine?

Anonymous No. 16335849

>>16335825
not the russians. americans gladly drink russian pee thoughever

Anonymous No. 16335959

>>16335043
Valence electrons in dissimilar metals have different energy levels. Bond two dissimilar metals together & apply a thermal gradient, and the electrons being kicked to higher energy levels in one metal can jump to the other metal, resulting in voltage.
You can imagine it like a ball bouncing on the floor landing on a nearby table. Once the electron is "stuck" in this high energy state it exerts a pressure (voltage) on the surrounding electrons, causing them to flow around the circuit, which generates electricity.

Anonymous No. 16335989

>>16335959
Nice thanks. Do you know any specifics on the metal bonding? Is it an amalgam of specific metals?

Anonymous No. 16335997

>>16335527
Kek

Designated shutting space

Anonymous No. 16336002

>>16332789
Their patent for the drive

https://patents.google.com/patent/US11511891B2/en

Anonymous No. 16336007

https://www.exoduspropulsion.space/

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Anonymous No. 16336016

>>16336007
I really, REALLY hope that something comes out of this or similar research because I want propellantless propulsion to exist, but
>Exodus Effect(TM)

Anonymous No. 16336020

>>16336016
Kek. They need a marketing campaign. Something along the lines of 'roads are for fags...your not a fag, are you?' bound to work.

Anonymous No. 16336039

>>16336007
Alright, nazi thread it is. Goodbye everyone

Anonymous No. 16336045

>>16336039
Be sure to leave in your car pfffhahahhaa

Anonymous No. 16336068

>>16332789
Their energy efficiency promises sound a bit loony.

Anonymous No. 16336131

>>16332789
Speaking of, what's up with that guy who sent his propellantless propulsion experiment to space?

Anonymous No. 16336133

>>16336131
The host cubesat suffered a power failure before the thruster was turned on and it deorbited.

Anonymous No. 16336134

>>16336133
Yeah, I know, has anything of note happened since?

Anonymous No. 16336144

>>16336134
They're trying for a 2025 second attempt and another company (Exodus Propulsion) is also claiming to have a working horizon drive.

Anonymous No. 16336150

>>16336144
I remember them saying they were gonna try and get an earlier launch but I guess that's not happening now.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16336153

>>16336150
Look bro, sometimes you gotta play ball - even if you're as much of a spastic as you are - so it wouldn't really be ball, it would be retarded - even thus - you play

Anonymous No. 16336155

>>16336147
Someone tell me is this the designated shitting thread because recent posts in this one versus the other one indicates so. Need to know which has more ppm

Anonymous No. 16336157

>>16336153
fucking bots

Anonymous No. 16336161

>>16336155
Literally I have no clue I’ve just had both open all day and I’ve refrained from posting important things. I’m saving it for when we finally get back on track; this shit is so tiresome

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16336163

>>16336161
>Tiresome
Such a shame.

Anonymous No. 16336169

anon in other thread made a good point. No backlink, meme OP, and I think it was still on page 4 when this was made so. Bye!

Anonymous No. 16336170

>>16336155
This one has a better OP. Are you getting the impression that this one is the bad one? What about the posts here makes you say that?

Anonymous No. 16336190

>>16336170
They both have terrible OPs so thats point is moot here (wouldve been deciding factor if one was better) its just the content of this thread being allot more /sffg/ or offtopic than /sfg/. Also not nearly as many news posts or images used, generally leads me to thinking this was the shitting thread.

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Anonymous No. 16336231

>https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1826287323048452601
Double Dragons readying for flight ahead of the Polaris Dawn and Crew-9 human spaceflight missions

Anonymous No. 16336234

>>16336231
man those fuckin things are a lot bigger than I ever gave them credit for

Anonymous No. 16336245

>>16336234
They were designed to hold a whole seven seats to the ISS as a Space Shuttle replacement. Plus the trunk is big enough to hold station sized iROSAs.

Anonymous No. 16336277

>>16336234
What what your mum said when she saw my grey pubic hairs that I've been trying to pluck

Anonymous No. 16336284

>>16336231
Boing could never

Anonymous No. 16336292

>>16336144
>(Exodus Propulsion) is also claiming to have a working horizon drive.
They're also not so subtly hinting in interviews that the company that launched the first drive (IVO) did so using their patent lmao >>16336002

Which might be true who knows

Anonymous No. 16336297

>>16336007
>Like chemical rockets, Exodus propulsion devices create momentum for a spacecraft's motion. However, Exodus' platform uses the interaction of electrostatic fields to harness the momentum found in electricity rather than in a chemical reaction.

>The process of generating the Exodus Effect(TM) is repeatable, predictable, published and well-understood. After being released from a 2-year national security hold, the first patent describing the Exodus Effect(TM) has finally been issued by the USPTO. Both acceleration and thrust (Newtons) are quantifiable and supported by 3rd-party validations. These facts are what separate Exodus from the pack.

>2-year national security hold

wat?

Anonymous No. 16336305

The DIA just dropped a bunch of antigravity stuff and hyperphysics.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ewlvql/the_dia_reading_room_just_dropped_over_1500_pages/
https://www.dia.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Electronic-Reading-Room/

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Anonymous No. 16336308

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1826291198845153636

Starlink on our carriers now, unbelievably based

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Anonymous No. 16336310

Shiplink

Anonymous No. 16336314

>>16336310
Wonder what the phased array looks like underneath

Anonymous No. 16336321

>>16336308
>elon reclaiming tax money for mars colonisation

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Anonymous No. 16336367

>>16336314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOmdQnIlnRo

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Anonymous No. 16336376

>>16336231

Anonymous No. 16336378

https://x.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1826309717062549754

Anonymous No. 16336379

>>16336365
That’s insane. Just… the size of it. It’s so light. Most people don’t understand the scale. It’s crazy…

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Anonymous No. 16336404

>>16336379

🗑️ Barkon No. 16336408

>>16336404
There was a kiss earlier but I was misled.

HP8T

Anonymous No. 16336411

Automated namefag spambot you know the drill.

🗑️ Barkon No. 16336412

Just a forewarning. I would know if I was going to keep with this or not. Further, I don't know if it's true. I can't currently imagine the environment which cages such acts.

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>>16336367
Neat

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🗑️ Barky No. 16336421

>>16336412
Well it's all good then, because I don't talk over my mind and I go by what is 'rational' - but a far greater power word than that.

Let's say stealing is prohibited. Then I haven't stolen and I'm doing what my mind can do the best performance of considering the environment.

Let's say that's wrong - same difference.

I - don't - break this mould.

However, given I am at odd ends and I'm being influenced to speak on all ends. I'll speak this.

Anonymous No. 16336434

>>16336305
Cool thanks.

Anonymous No. 16336438

"In direct contrast to chemical rocketry, an EPF propulsion system does not require any fuel or oxidizer or mechanical systems or propellant mass to be consumed or expelled in any way. EPF creates physical momentum from stored electrical energy in a hermetically sealed reactor, and over time, that created physical momentum is realized as physical force. The spacecraft is accelerated by the application of this physical force. As no mass fraction of the spacecraft is expended to create thrust, the lifespan of the EPF thruster, and thereby the spacecraft housing them, are near limitless. Realistic mass fractions of the spacecraft devoted to propulsion could be as little as 2% of the total mass of the spacecraft. This projected low mass fraction is in direct contrast to the 98% mass fractions currently accepted for chemical/electric spacecraft propulsion systems. Low propulsion mass fraction, very high efficiency, and never having to turn off the propulsion will bring about a revolution in the exploration of space. Travel times to the planets will be measured in days as opposed to months/years. Greater mass fractions of the spacecraft will be used for the payloads."

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Anonymous No. 16336455

How is Musk doing things like picrel going to affect SpaceX?

Anonymous No. 16336464

>>16336455
Space cadets support kamala

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Anonymous No. 16336471

>>16336438
>EPF creates physical momentum from stored electrical energy in a hermetically sealed reactor, and over time, that created physical momentum is realized as physical force. The spacecraft is accelerated by the application of this physical force.
Funny they throw out so many physics buzzwords while actually managing to say nothing of substance at all. "hermetically sealed reactor" alone tells you this is 100% horse shit. The only unclear thing is whether it's an investment scam outright or a delusional schizo like Shawyer.

Anonymous No. 16336494

>>16335989
Nah all I know is they need to have a difference in band gap energy

Anonymous No. 16336508

>>16332792
Just use sails matey
>>16334965
Hell fucking no. Carnot says that efficiency is proportional to temperature difference. Efficiency's crap, like 6.3%. Radioisotope power supplies could be more efficient if they didn't convert rads to heat.

Anonymous No. 16336514

>>16336305
go discuss it at your first link

Anonymous No. 16336532

>>16336365
Interesting and saddening at the same time, watching them go down the path Spacex abandoned.

Anonymous No. 16336543

>>16336532
May well work for them. They have a lot of experience working with carbon fiber.

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Anonymous No. 16336548

>>16336231

Anonymous No. 16336573

has anyone seen the MH370 videos? There's this plane being sorrounded by 3 orbs and then they dissapear along with the plane.

This guy Ashton Forbes claims US teleported the plane.somewhere.

Anonymous No. 16336574

the real /sfg/ >>16333883 316 posts in 40 hours (7.9 pph)

this early staged fake and gay /sfg/ 270 posts in 52 hours (less than 5.2 pph)

Anonymous No. 16336576

>>16336532
It might work for them. SpaceX needed the cheap steel because a good chunk of the ones they'll ever make are leaving Earth forever, basically the same as a disposable rocket. Carbon fiber would actually be a problem once on Mars but steel will be a useful resource. Starship is a Mars city builder that also works as a constellation builder, Neutron is a constellation builder.

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Anonymous No. 16336577

>>16336573

Anonymous No. 16336580

>>16336574
The battle between nazi and schizo rages on...

Anonymous No. 16336582

>>16336577
woah guise this looks real!??

Anonymous No. 16336585

>>16336582
you gotta go into the rabbit hole, man, there's a lot.

Anonymous No. 16336590

>>16336582
do you not like UFOs or something?

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Anonymous No. 16336596

>MUH ALLIIEENNNZZZSSSTHHHH

Anonymous No. 16336632

>>16336574
I am posting in both threads and they're both in my thread watcher.
The proper course of action is to migrate from the more active thread to the less active one, once the more active thread is ready to stage, and then stage off of the second one when it also gets to page 10. Unfortunately I have very little hope that the handful of low-functioning autistic paste-eaters on both sides of this problem can restrain themselves from once again doing something retarded.

Anonymous No. 16336682

>>16336577
lmfao

Anonymous No. 16336722

ISS 2 WHEN???

Anonymous No. 16336737

>>16336632
The other thread is still getting more posts than this one even though it is on autosage and this thread is still bumping.

Anonymous No. 16336749

>>16336737
its all me

Anonymous No. 16336771

>>16336737
>autosage
Irrelevant

Anonymous No. 16336814

>>16336438
>momentum from stored electrical energy in a hermetically sealed reactor, and over time, that created physical momentum is realized as physical force
preposterous

Anonymous No. 16336895

Electromagnetic spacetime continuum propulsion system for space travel

Anonymous No. 16336897

Method for creating a rapidly changing energy shell of quantum fluctuations about masses for acceleration without mass ejection

Anonymous No. 16336945

>>16336231
This one picture shits on all of crewed aerospace. Especially considering there's another dragon currently docked at the ISS. Show the sheer gap between SpaceX and the rest of the market.

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Anonymous No. 16336989

>>16334674
>They could return in a cargo dragon
What I had been hearing was that they might return in the cargo "section" of a Dragon, which would be below the four seats.

Anonymous No. 16337034

Hello

Pluto orbits with an average orbital velocity of 4.743km/s but it's orbit is highly elliptical, so as it moves from perihelion to aphelion we see orbital velocity range between 6.1kms and 3.6kms

Earth's orbital velocity average is 29.78, orbit is very not eccentric (0.167) and so velocity ranges between 29.29 and 30.29.

So, with pluto having a variation in orbit velocity over twice that of earth as it completes it's orbit, I find myself wondering: if you were somehow able to live 270+ years to experience both periapsis and apoapsis, would you feel any different? It's a huge relative change, 30% of the initial orbital velocity and as I said, over 200% of what we experience on earth

Or am I retard

Anonymous No. 16337041

>>16337034
There's nothing to feel; the changes in relative momentum are all on the curvature of space-time and do not impart any observable force for an outside observer.

Anonymous No. 16337045

>>16337034
You wouldn't feel anything. The forces flinging Pluto around are acting on you the same way
>if you were somehow able to live 270+ years
Well I guess you'd feel old

Anonymous No. 16337046

It seems rather counter intuitive to me, hence my am I potato question. At what scale do we stop experiencing acceleration effects? How massive of an object do we need to be on? Or am I being retarded once again

Anonymous No. 16337053

>>16332789
>0:24 - interview start
>0:25 - "forget the science for a second, let's talk about commercialization"
We're never getting our flying cars are we.

Anonymous No. 16337055

>>16337046
I think the easily way to think about it is just because your accelerating in your orbit relatively, your actual energy state hasn't changed thus you feel no acceleration.

Even gravity assists where you accelerate into higher energy orbits by passing a body is a net zero in energy. The body acts on you but in direct proportion you're acting on the body you are passing by.

Anonymous No. 16337072

>>16336365
I want to see a strongman lift the whole thing

Anonymous No. 16337073

>>16335007
qrd?

Anonymous No. 16337077

>>16337053
That interviewer was way out of his depth, where did they find that guy jeez

Anonymous No. 16337094

>>16332789
so from what i've read into this its likely the intense electrical charge interacting with the chamber producing a force. Also the math in the patent is incorrect apparently.

Sad.

Anonymous No. 16337110

>>16337073
https://www.vastspace.com/roadmap

Anonymous No. 16337126

>>16337094
oh that's disappointing, I guess the in-space test will deboonk it for good and we can move on

Anonymous No. 16337375

>>16336455
he already burned all bridges
it's all in on red now

Anonymous No. 16337424

>>16337053
Lol. Yeah they're gonna have to go through some people like thst to secure research funding

Anonymous No. 16337439

>>16336632
>I have very little hope that the handful of low-functioning autistic paste-eaters on both sides of this problem can restrain themselves from once again doing something retarded.

Be nice if the janitors could do their job

Anonymous No. 16337446

So is it happening or was it fake? I want to play Star Citizen in real life so bad bros.

Anonymous No. 16337458

>>16337446
>is meme drive happening bros

Until proven, it's absolutely not

Anonymous No. 16337459

>>16337446
It's always fake and will always be fake until someone comes up with something that does not get energy and momentum for free.

Anonymous No. 16337463

>>16337459
People in the 1800s would have considered nuclear power as energy for free. Who is to say that there isn't a force we aren't aware of that can be tapped? Dark matter is a fucking joke. It's pretty obvious that the standard model is either flat out wrong or missing some huge and really important parts.

Anonymous No. 16337464

>>16337459
It's always fake, but schizos will continue to believe in it and not stop talking about it until it gets properly dis-proven. (and even after that for some schizos)
That satellite dying before they could test it was annoying for those of us who are tired of hearing about it.

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Anonymous No. 16337468

>>16337446
Physics is a bitch

Anonymous No. 16337474

>>16337464
What about plasma magnet drive? Needs no new physics and is also pretty much proven by the way charged particles interact with Jupiter's magnetic field.

Anonymous No. 16337483

>>16337463
If you know where the energy and momentum comes from and it doesn't produce them for free, then it's not a free energy device. If it produces constant velocity for constant energy input, it is a free energy device, which contradicts Noether's Theorem. If it is a constant displacement device, it requires the existence of preferred references frames which would massively contradict General Relativity. If it steals momentum from something else, now we're getting somewhere.

Anonymous No. 16337484

>>16337474
still a meme drive because someone has to build one that works

Anonymous No. 16337489

>>16337484
Project Orion is a meme drive? Solar moth? Beamed propulsion? No one has built those

Anonymous No. 16337492

>>16337483
>which would massively contradict General Relativity

You mean the THEORY which has giant fucking holes and doesn't explain very important aspects of the observable universe? The THEORY that has had multiple decades, shitloads of speculative research and umpteen gorillion dollars devoted to finding an imaginary particle with constantly changing properties to try and fit in to make the THEORY work? 0 results for all of this btw.

That's some dogshit science son.

Anonymous No. 16337493

>>16337489
The difference between a laser and a proper Death Ray is that high energy physics starts doing things that ruin your laser before it can ramp to Death Ray level power. Nukes work as advertised. Solar Moth and Beamed Propulsion are memes.

Anonymous No. 16337494

>>16337492
Science pro tip: pointing to stuff that General Relativity can't explain doesn't help your case when you're trying to disprove it about stuff that it explains just fine.

Anonymous No. 16337496

>>16337493
How is solar moth a meme drive? It's just a big parabolic mirror that heats water/propellant. Take your meds boeing executive.

Anonymous No. 16337497

>>16337496
Because your bigass solar mirror needs to be hilariously light to perform as expected and not have focal issues. It's a meme because it can't be built with known technologies and techniques.

Anonymous No. 16337499

>>16337494
If your "universal model" fails to address critical functions of the universe and you need to invent undetectable magic particles (that change their properties every time an experiment fails to detect them) to explain it, there is probably something really badly wrong with your model. This shit is not science, this is wanking over one dudes theory rather than trying to come up with a theory that actually explains the observable functions of matter.

Anonymous No. 16337503

>>16337499
Nobody likes coming up with free parameters to explain the gaps in a model, but the reason why people do it is because nobody has better ideas. Yeah, people have alternate explanations for things that General Relativity gets wrong like Modified Newtonian Dynamics, and yeah it elegantly explains the things Relativity gets wrong. But the problem is, it doesn't explain a whole bunch of the shit relativity gets /right/: it has worse predictive power than Relativity, which means it is at best and rather optimistically, incomplete, and at worst, it's just plain wrong. Until that is sufficiently and thoroughly addressed, Relativity remains the objectively superior model, and the alternatives will remain actually, literally useless.

Anonymous No. 16337505

https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1826353791123284050?t=g2aN_Lo0ar8GLLBmAP0kqw&s=19

Anonymous No. 16337508

>>16337503
Reminder that schizo McCulloughs model is superior to MOND and explains everything up to and including the bullet cluster while also explaining the problems with galactic rotations and mass distribution. This is an experiment that can be performed for a fraction of the endless dark matter hunting to either be disproven or disproven. "Scientists" don't care about science anymore, it's basically all dogma now.

Anonymous No. 16337510

>>16337508
>There is an experiment that can be performed
Then do it; there's a million and one defense contractors who don't get a shit what universities think, they want the next big thing.

Anonymous No. 16337515

>>16337510
>Then do it; there's a million and one defense contractors who don't get a shit what universities think, they want the next big thing.

Point in case that scientists don't care about science. Here is a theory that neatly ties everything up but all these fuckheads are too busy huffing their own farts and circlejerking over dogma to spend comparative pennies to give it a go. Old mate had to beg DARPA and a literal fucking who company to give him a chance. Of course the test bed "failed" so it's likely bullshit but that's nit the point here.

Anonymous No. 16337525

>>16337515
Why not list the experiment? You're doing a lot of complaining about it not being done, which we don't actually know, for reasons seemingly decided on in advance.

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Anonymous No. 16337539

I just don't understand why everyone ignores my theory, it explains everything. "Scientists" actually HATE science because they ignore my genius theory

Anonymous No. 16337541

>>16337525
Fuck off newfag

Anonymous No. 16337542

Previous/parallel thread

>>16333883
>>16333883
>>16333883
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Anonymous No. 16337549

>>16337505

Anonymous No. 16337551

>>16337541
Or you could just list the simple experiment. I was around for those threads too, I just forget what the hell it was because it's been something like a year.

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>>16337549

Anonymous No. 16337557

>>16337554
>posting this in the schizophrenia thread
brave

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Anonymous No. 16337561

Starlink installed on USS Lincoln

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1826291198845153636

Anonymous No. 16337562

>>16337551
Reps newfag

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Anonymous No. 16337565

>>16337562
You started panic flailing as soon as someone who engaged with the premise asked for a single detail.

Anonymous No. 16337568

>>16337565
>redditor seething about gatekeepers

Like clockwork

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Anonymous No. 16337570

Good metaphor for this thread rn

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Anonymous No. 16337578

>>16337570
>the slight pan up expecting the vertical launch before dropping back down to the rocket power slide

Pure kino, love this one

Anonymous No. 16337613

>>16337565
Just don't engage with schizos lmao

Anonymous No. 16337621

>dark matter bad!
Remember that physicists have 90 years of researching neutrinos that hardly ineract with anything at all. A new particle that is even more elusive is the conservative approach to astrophysical enigmas we've observed. It may not ultimately prove to be the case but the idea doesn't come from nowhere.

Anonymous No. 16337628

>>16337561
starshield when

Anonymous No. 16337639

>>16337628
>read starshield wikipedia page
>it's talked about as everything from normal starlink internet except exclusive to the military, to real-time surveillance spy satellites, to missile warning and tracking, to straight up being brilliant pebbles
wtf

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Anonymous No. 16337679

>>16336558
>That the very idea of using ICEs in space applications is not entirely absurd is proven by the recent decision by ULA to incorporate an ICE into the latest version of their venerable Centaur 3rd stage.
>It is an inline 6-cylinder design inspired by the classic V-8 engines built by Ford during the 1930s.
>rotary power will drive an electrical generator and rocket propellant pumps
>“waste” heat will be used to help pressurize the LH2/LO2 propellant tanks
>the engine exhaust will exit a low pressure, axial thruster to settle the propellant tanks.
>Fuel for the ICE will come from GH2/GO2 boiloff.
wtf this is nuts. Why doesn't ULA do groundbreaking/experimental shit like this anymore?

Anonymous No. 16337688

>>16337497
It doesn't need to be especially light, at all. It's meant to be used on low TWR spacecraft, kinda like a NERVA competitor.

Anonymous No. 16337691

>>16337459
https://youtu.be/9JSpvCZeb6M&t=53m31s

Looks like they stumbled across zero point energy recently. They gon get suicided

Anonymous No. 16337697

>>16337483
>If it steals momentum from something else, now we're getting somewhere

That's precisely what he says is going on. This link here above details that briefly

Anonymous No. 16337704

I hope whichever anon has been grouching about the political OPs sees the schizophrenia going on right now and regrets it

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Anonymous No. 16337709

All this schizo-posting is to hide BO fuck ups

Anonymous No. 16337713

>>16337691
This shit is retarded. If you have proof of a genuine free energy energy device, they are going to kill you, period. All you can do is unload your device schematics to every single youtuber, university, engineering company, file upload site, etc... and hope that it gets through.

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Anonymous No. 16337715

Schizos out of my general

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Anonymous No. 16337718

How it should look like with the blue sliding front

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Anonymous No. 16337724

>>16336957
Thats my birthday!

Anonymous No. 16337731

Stephen Wolfram has some thoughts on ftl within his new paradigm
https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2020/10/faster-than-light-in-our-model-of-physics-some-preliminary-thoughts/

Anonymous No. 16337733

>>16337713
That makes sense, assuming you don't care about money

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Anonymous No. 16337734

implosion you say?

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Anonymous No. 16337745

SPEHS

Anonymous No. 16337747

>>16337715
blue origin? more like blown the fuck out

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Anonymous No. 16337763

https://x.com/Gillis_SarahE/status/1826500365740822546

Anonymous No. 16337779

>>16337763
>man has zero body hair
hmmmmm

Anonymous No. 16337781

>>16337763
nice ass

Anonymous No. 16337783

>>16337763
Why do they look like they stopped during their daily jogging routine?

Anonymous No. 16337789

>>16337783
because that is exactly what they did

Anonymous No. 16337792

Finally a MILF is going to space

Anonymous No. 16337798

>>16337779
Probably for competitive swimming or something.

Anonymous No. 16337804

>>16337798
Its for sex preversions and everyone knows it

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Anonymous No. 16337806

https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1826607826636316822

Anonymous No. 16337807

>>16337806
2 weeks?

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>>16337806

Anonymous No. 16337824

>>16337763
SEXOOOOOO

Anonymous No. 16337829

>>16337718
>Jeff getting scammed by oldspace to build a closed testing environment
this keeps getting funnier

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Anonymous No. 16337833

>Flying fighter jets and shit
And this will help them in space how..?

Anonymous No. 16337849

>Kowsky-Frost Anti-Gravity Quartz Experiment - 1927
https://www.theorionproject.org/en/documents/Kowsky-Frost.pdf

>Levitating Quartz Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyb9bZ5r-AU

>Thomas Townsend Brown - Early Anti-Gravity Research
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown

>History of Anti-Gravity & Trans-Dimensional Physics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taW4bs1dggY

Anonymous No. 16337855

>>16337483
>it requires the existence of preferred references frames which would massively contradict General Relativity
This wouldn't particularly be a bad thing. GR doesn't break if there's a preferred frame, it just becomes incomplete

Anonymous No. 16337871

>>16337833
I think its about team work and team building mostly, maybe getting used to high pressure situations

Anonymous No. 16337875

>>16337833
Jared Isaacman likes doing cool things.

Anonymous No. 16337877

>>16337833
Spaceplane training

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Anonymous No. 16337884

Are we going?

Anonymous No. 16337887

>>16337833
Who cares how? Fighters jets are cool.

Anonymous No. 16337891

>>16337833
Space belongs to chair force forever.

Anonymous No. 16337895

>>16332789
/sfg/bros, can anyone explain the current viability of the skyhook concept? I haven't really heard much about it unlike space elevators (which I understand are not feasible for material science reasons and needing a sizeable space industrial base to construct to begin with)

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Anonymous No. 16337917

https://x.com/astronautnr7/status/1826572204093452728

Anonymous No. 16337918

Can't wait until Starship reaches Mars and the billion dollar rover meme dies

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Anonymous No. 16337920

>>16337895
It's a meme.

Anonymous No. 16337929

>>16337918
MSR....

Anonymous No. 16337932

>>16337895
It is viable and you can make it with current materials. But it would now involve the skyhook scything through the orbits occupied by satellite mega constellations so it won't be built

Anonymous No. 16337957

>>16337833
G-force training? It's more interesting than just sitting in one of those spinning things.

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Anonymous No. 16337968

>>16337806
>>16337808

Anonymous No. 16337976

>>16337895
For Earth they suck for the same reason all tether based systems suck here, gravity is too strong & required velocities are too fast.
Skyhooks are a replacement for reusable boosters, except they're more complex, present a single point of failure that can cripple your launch industry, and are harder to use than reusable boosters.

Anonymous No. 16337978

>>16337918
Same, and same goes for orbiters and landers.

Anonymous No. 16337982

>>16337976
>Skyhooks are a replacement for reusable boosters
Aren’t they the oposite? They still require you to get up into the upper atmosphere to hook on. If anything they’re a replacement for reusable second stages. Cutting out the middle man between booster and kick stage.

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Anonymous No. 16337984

>Adjusted for inflation, Curiosity has a life-cycle cost of US$3.2 billion in 2020 dollars

Anonymous No. 16337986

>>16337918
What the fuck else would JPL even do? They don't do any mass production. Would they just make another mass optimized rover the size of a building? They either will need to change course completely or adapt in an absurd way to justify their existence

Anonymous No. 16337995

>>16337986
Moxie was cool. Ginny was cool. Maybe they can keep making one off tech demonstrators to throw on other people’s missions.

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Anonymous No. 16338014

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1826629020953538879

Anonymous No. 16338016

>>16337968
I was wondering wtf that shape was in the previous blurry photos.
This belongs on the booster, not the ship.
Make it huge on the booster, like B.O.'s stupid feather, but 1000X cooler

Anonymous No. 16338032

>>16337763
...where's her ass?

Anonymous No. 16338037

>220,000–330,000 lb
What's the use case?

Anonymous No. 16338038

>>16333901
i hate the media so much. why cant they celebrate the revival of the space age? why do they always try and ruin everything good in the world?

Anonymous No. 16338048

>>16338032
Negrolatrous zoomers are not welcome here

Anonymous No. 16338049

>>16338037
Your mom to orbit

Anonymous No. 16338053

>>16338037
Use the vehicle to build a satellite constellation to pay to use the vehicle for Mars colonization

Anonymous No. 16338065

>>16337895
you're gonna trigger that autist

Anonymous No. 16338082

>>16337459
>something that does not get energy and momentum for free.
>for free

This is my rudimentary understanding of it by piecing things together but it seems that these asymmetric capacitor thrusters seem to take it out of the quantum vacuum

https://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/2021/11/a-thrust-from-nothing.html
>There will be then a quantum void between the plates that will pull the electrons out of the cathode faster than expected and this will add momentum to the system which will thrust towards the anode. A thrust from 'nothing'.

So it's not "nothing" but the quantum field which we know isn't empty but more dense than expected
https://www.quantamagazine.org/waning-dark-energy-may-evade-swampland-of-impossible-universes-20240819/.
>The quantum fields that permeate space fluctuate in strength, never staying exactly at zero; particles continually spring into existence and disappear just as quickly. These quantum fluctuations should contribute to the energy of ambient space. But when physicists do the math, they find that the effect could be as much as 10^120 times bigger than the observed abundance of dark energy.

Hence why these could be considered quantum void thrusters

So the physicists can bitch and moan all they want but it seems like the energy available from the quantum void is effectively infinite from our perspective and they've found a method and device to tap into and extract energy from this quantum well so to speak.

Anonymous No. 16338087

>>16338082
>quantum vacuum
>quantum void
>quantum field
>quantum well

goddd that's the most quantum babble I've ever written, I think some of these are redundant and I'm still skeptical but yeah we'll see

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Anonymous No. 16338100

https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/21/the-new-generation-of-heavy-lift-rockets-rising-to-challenge-spacex/

Anonymous No. 16338105

>>16337525
>>16337510
The one you're thinking of is the IVO quantum drive that launched on Transporter 9, failed due to satellite bus allegedly

Same company is working on a repeat drive, then there's Exodus working on their own similar attempt for even longer than IVO and iirc they've got in-space experiments in the planning stage

So if all of these fail we'll know its all BS and can move on

Anonymous No. 16338107

>>16338100
>used SLS picture in article about challenging Falcon 9
The hate is still not nearly enough.

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Anonymous No. 16338108

>>16338100
>Currently operational heavy-lift rockets

Anonymous No. 16338111

>>16338100
>SLS in the heavy lift category
Is the Mega Moon rocket really so weak?

Anonymous No. 16338114

>>16337463
>It's pretty obvious that the standard model is either flat out wrong or missing some huge and really important parts.
Neither QM nor GR are flat out wrong, just like Newtonian physics aren't flat out wrong. All of them were the best at predicting behavior of things before a better theory was invented/discovered. But otherwise, I agree.

Anonymous No. 16338115

>>16338100

> Challengers
> SLS and Ariane 6

Yeah, bet Elon stays awake nights worried about them.

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Anonymous No. 16338117

>>16338108
>The rocket race is far from decided. Take a look at the next generation of launch vehicles that will make their debut over the next few years.

lmaoooo, I think these people might actually believe this? or is it just EDS

Anonymous No. 16338118

>>16337094
>its likely the intense electrical charge interacting with the chamber producing a force.
But the force stops as soon as the capacitor plates are space enough mm apart to stop producing it, so that explanation doesn't make sense

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16338124

new /sfg/
>>16338089
>>16338089
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>>16338089

Anonymous No. 16338125

>>16338124
We're on Page 6

delete that thread, retard

Anonymous No. 16338126

>>16338124
>page 6
Fuck off

Anonymous No. 16338128

>>16338124
kys

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Anonymous No. 16338135

>>16338124
based
fuck this shitty schizo thread kill it asap

Anonymous No. 16338138

>>16338124
newfag

Anonymous No. 16338139

>>16338124
fucking newfag retards always thinking they're saving the world by making a new thread

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Anonymous No. 16338153

>>16338082
So does it conserve energy or not? I'm not talking about conserving momentum, just the overall energy.

Anonymous No. 16338162

>>16338153
I think its drawing energy from the quantum vacuum (via the Casimir effect), which is insanely energy dense beyond the expected calculations of theoretical physicists see:

https://www.vlatkovedral.com/the-worst-prediction-in-the-whole-of-physics/
>However, if we calculate the quantum vacuum energy of the universe it turns out to be 120 orders of magnitude bigger. Hence: the worst prediction in the whole of physics.

Is it so hard to conceive of the possibility that we might have found a way to tap into and exploit the near-infinite energy out of the quantum vacuum and use it for momentum/power?

Anonymous No. 16338163

>>16338149
retards gonna tard

Anonymous No. 16338164

>>16338149
Kolodny be like:
>lemme write that down and make an article about it haha Musk is finished now!

Anonymous No. 16338168

>>16338149
Who?

Anonymous No. 16338174

>>16338168
a source CNBC uses in its reporting often

Anonymous No. 16338176

>>16338174
Definitely not Sheetz, he has integrity at least and not an EDS agenda

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Anonymous No. 16338198

The Red Chinee will have swimming pools on the Moon before the US can land.

Anonymous No. 16338212

>>16338162
>Is it so hard to conceive of the possibility that we might have found a way to tap into and exploit the near-infinite energy out of the quantum vacuum and use it for momentum/power?
No, several sci-fi writers have done so (but I don't really read, so the only example I can think of is vanometric power from Rimworld). But I need peer reviewed papers and repeatable experimental evidence.

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Anonymous No. 16338237

>>16336310
That's the Kymeta OneWeb terminal. They're using both.

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Anonymous No. 16338253

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd6o6NJK14U
>Do We Need All These Rockets? | Starship | New Glenn | Ariane 6

Anonymous No. 16338277

>>16338253
Yes, next video.

Anonymous No. 16338280

>>16338253
ariane 6 depending on who "we" are

Anonymous No. 16338285

https://x.com/Jordan_W_Taylor/status/1826642233300582869

The Martian Industrial War Machine will be powered by CO2

Anonymous No. 16338286

>>16338253
NSF running out of ideas, most boring video they've made

Anonymous No. 16338297

>>16337982
No, the vehicle a skyhook would swing up into orbit would much more closely align to the design requirements of an upper stage than a booster. They'd need to handle coasting in space, manage radiating waste heat, deal with high atmospheric heating, carry a bunch of propellant for maneuvering once in orbit, etc. Meanwhile a reusable rocket stage can optimize for spaceflight instead of needing to take off from the ground, and a reusable booster can be developed and built for much lower cost (and in my opinion lower operating costs as well).

Anonymous No. 16338302

>>16337986
Ideally they'll fucking die at the hands of a much more efficient company with a better design philosophy than "make everything, even the wheels, ultra high performance cutting edge tech".

Anonymous No. 16338310

>>16338032
in my mouth
>>16338198
>reaction between lunar regolith and endogenous hydrogen
>endogenous hydrogen
so this thing is supplying hydrogen and reacting it with oxygen pulled from regolith to make water? or what?

Anonymous No. 16338313

>>16338285
CO2 as a working fluid still needs either a solar or nuclear heat source to generate power.

Anonymous No. 16338315

>>16338174
wait, what? I thought ESGhound was just a meme, do they take him seriously? lmao

Anonymous No. 16338316

>>16338315
yes the following article uses ESG hound as a source and I don't think its the first time

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/12/spacex-repeatedly-polluted-waters-in-texas-tceq-epa-found.html

Anonymous No. 16338318

>>16338315
He is actually an expert in his field. Unfortunately his field is digging through environmental legislation.

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Anonymous No. 16338321

https://x.com/pronounced_kyle/status/1826687940673912946

I think the vid itself is still a concept

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Anonymous No. 16338322

>>16338321
https://www.reflectorbital.com/energy

Anonymous No. 16338325

>>16338322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hUNCtDTIZc

Anonymous No. 16338341

>>16338321
>>16338322
>>16338325
This is so fucking stupid man. Some napkin math assuming ideal everything shows that it's like 5x more expensive per watt than building another solar array. Factor in realistic reflectivity, percentage of mass actually devoted to the mirror and not the controls and structure, atmospheric losses, utilization, bleh. Terrible. This shouldn't have made it past the first discussion about it. If you're selling an actual commodity like electricity then you need to be cheaper or it doesn't work. I'm pretty sure I did the math and it actually works the opposite way, you can make money by beaming Earth power to space despite losses because of the cost per watt on Earth vs space.

Anonymous No. 16338353

>>16338341
>I'm pretty sure I did the math and it actually works the opposite way, you can make money by beaming Earth power to space despite losses because of the cost per watt on Earth vs space.

handmer talks about that constantly
not really sure what kind of napkin math these guys were using but I kind of doubt its just for more baseload solar, has to be more expensive (i.e. replacing batteries as you can do solar at night, so it would cost more than just basic baseload solar amortized over the day + batteries)
hard to say if it works out in that case either though

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Anonymous No. 16338383

>>16338353
I'd bet they're expecting to replace peaker plants or something, reflecting during the evening at the peak of the duck curve where electricity is most expensive.
This has all the marks of being a great pitch for a guy that knows business but not physics. Increase utilization of established infrastructure, serve the market at peak prices.
Unfortunately it will never be cheap enough to be competitive.

Anonymous No. 16338385

>>16338135
tsmt

Anonymous No. 16338391

>>>/pol/479213875
Hey now this looks familiar...

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Anonymous No. 16338397

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1826707864527982764

https://blogs.nasa.gov/boeing-crew-flight-test/2024/08/22/nasa-boeing-chart-course-for-starliner-return-review/

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>>16338397

Anonymous No. 16338400

>>16338397
>we will announce that we will announce our decision on starliner shortly after the election

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Anonymous No. 16338404

https://x.com/cnunezimages/status/1826698816197984467

Anonymous No. 16338425

>>16338321
>>16338322
There's something extremely evil about this that I can't put my finger on, the people who support this idea should be entombed underground to protect the rest of us.
I get vague notions about normies hating the light pollution caused by this so much that, in typical normie fashion, they blame all of spaceflight, and as a result some commies in government sieze the opportunity to ban industrialization of space or something horrifying like that

Space activity should remain as invisible to the normie as possible until such time that space activity is self sustaining & normies cannot stop it anymore.

Anonymous No. 16338436

>catalog
>2 /sfg/ threads
Mods, the fuck?

Anonymous No. 16338441

>>16338436
we've had multi-sfgs off and on for months now. used to be the mods were good about keeping it to 1 only

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Anonymous No. 16338451

>>16338425

Anonymous No. 16338453

>>16338425
Only backyard wanna be astronomers care about light pollution. The environmentalists and commies are already against US spaceflight so nothing changed. I can see it being useful in disaster response where continuous daylight may help search and rescue.

Anonymous No. 16338454

>>16338322
>>16338321
>VC with a braindead idea masquerading as new space
It's such an obvious grift

Anonymous No. 16338464

>>16338436
>>16338441
I'm pissed at the anons who cannot behave & make early threads

Anonymous No. 16338465

https://www.youtube.com/live/imizYKVRmh4
casey dryer is a huge fag

Anonymous No. 16338466

>>16338453
There's a difference between a soft indirect airglow from thousands of street lights & buildings vs a harsh light in the sky hundreds of times brighter than the full Moon glaring down on people's housesat night.
The glare is obvious but the additional heat may be what puts it over the edge for people, especially in already warm climates. I already want to murder my neighbor because of his bright ass outdoor light.

Anonymous No. 16338469

>>16338162
All of these schemes are fundamentally non-conserving because their theory of operation continuously imparts momentum-energy at a constant rate. Kinetic energy increases with the square of velocity, and any momentum extraction regime that doesn't involve equal costs elsewhere in the system means energy is created from nothing.

Anonymous No. 16338476

>>16338391
Whoever told /pol/ about /sfg/ was a fucking retard

Anonymous No. 16338485

>>16337833
astronauts do fighter jet training

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Anonymous No. 16338487

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1826722530713100723

Anonymous No. 16338489

>>16338487
https://x.com/Yrouel86/status/1826724163299729872

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBuLesJg0Hs&t=1120s

Anonymous No. 16338490

>>16338321
fucks like this got vc funding but not me lol

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>>16338489

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>>16338489
fuck

Anonymous No. 16338502

>>16338487
>>16338489
>>16338490
>>16338493
>>16338496
With allies like that in public office, its no wonder that Boeing is the way it is. Shelby's retirement seems more conspicuously scheduled now too: he left just before all the shit hit the fan with Boeing.

Anonymous No. 16338509

>>16338487
>orion on falcon heavy
orion is the problem at this point, not sls

Anonymous No. 16338523

>>16338509
The price tag of SLS is a huge problem in and of itself; also call me a a hater (I am) but one launch doesn’t mean the good ol’ Boeing rot isn’t deep within this rocket somewhere. Shuttle,as an example, exploded on its 25th flight and that’s back when oldspace had GOOD engineers

Anonymous No. 16338527

Man I'm sure glad there's no one associated with Boeing at the top of NASA leadership now

oh wait

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Anonymous No. 16338532

>>16338487
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1826728180377682321


LMAO

Anonymous No. 16338533

>>16338523
SLS is at least functional, unlike Orion which is about to be delayed to 2027

Anonymous No. 16338536

>>16338532
>More in Reentry
Never change

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Anonymous No. 16338537

>>16338487
>Shelby
I thought that human roadblock to space had fucking retired, what's he still doing here?

Anonymous No. 16338542

>>16338537
this is about historical stuff, not current

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Anonymous No. 16338543

>>16338509
>orion is the problem at this point, not sls
Both are a problem, you should know this anon

Anonymous No. 16338544

>>16338537
The man may be retired, but the dream lives on.
No fuel depots in space!!!!

Anonymous No. 16338545

>>16338532
Top kek

Anonymous No. 16338555

>>16338542
Oh oh oh, my bad
>>16338544
I want the first one to be named the Richard Shelby Memorial Orbital Fuel Depot

Anonymous No. 16338558

>RFA Identifies Turbopump as the Cause for RFA ONE Test Failure

>In an update on LinkedIn on 22 August, RFA COO Dr. Stefan Brieschenk announced that the company had completed an initial internal review. In what Dr. Brieschenk describes as “very preliminary” findings, he explains that the company has identified an “oxygen fire in one of the turbopumps” as the root cause of the incident.
>“That engine and that turbopump have run before without issues, wrote Dr. Brieschenk. “Eight engines ignited. We had multiple back-up and safety systems in place that were supposed to shut everything down – but things did not align on Monday as planned.”

https://europeanspaceflight.com/rfa-identifies-turbopump-as-the-cause-for-rfa-one-test-failure/

Anonymous No. 16338562

>still no berger article comparing trump and kamala's space policies

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Anonymous No. 16338566

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1826734612133151044

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Anonymous No. 16338569

https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1826717117368180774

Anonymous No. 16338570

>>16338566
Zing!

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Anonymous No. 16338571

>>16338569
https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1826719821406580989

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>>16338571

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>>16338574

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>>16338575

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>>16338576

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>>16338578

Anonymous No. 16338583

>>16338575
another one ripe for the
>pathetic
edits

Anonymous No. 16338614

For reference

>>16338089
>>16338089
>>16338089

Anonymous No. 16338621

>>16338490
What was the idea?

Anonymous No. 16338630

>>16338621
medical devices

Anonymous No. 16338639

>>16338630
Don't want to get too specific? I get it.
Baiting VC isn't about good ideas though, and you shouldn't mistake people that have a lot of money for being smart. Space is hot right now and the idea makes good business sense if you don't have the real numbers like I said here >>16338383, so they got a ton of money for a fundamentally retarded idea. Seriously though look through the dumbest startups you can find, and look through their investors' twitter or whatever they have. Unbelievable how dumb a multimillionaire can be

Anonymous No. 16338642

>>16338566
lel

Anonymous No. 16338648

icymi https://neuralink.com/blog/prime-study-progress-update-second-participant/

Anonymous No. 16338650

>>16338639
well its in the same industry as neuralink, except my idea is more like the software that works with their hardware

Anonymous No. 16338651

Does Jeff Who have fake muscles (like implants)? Just saw his arms on estronaut's interview and they have weird flaps at the inside of his elbows

Anonymous No. 16338658

>>16338651
Hormones and roids. Artificial gains.

Anonymous No. 16338698

>>16338648
not spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16338707

>janny cleans up /sci/
>leaves both /sfg/s up
thank you janny

Anonymous No. 16338708

>>16338698
>/sfg/ - Elon Musk general

Anonymous No. 16338720

>>16338708
Sometimes we talk about Astra.

Anonymous No. 16338746

Sometimes we do, anyway.

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Anonymous No. 16338773

>>16338569
>>16338571
Lmao he's actually legitimately paid off by SpaceX isn't he? Fucking kek

Anonymous No. 16338777

>>16338773
>Said the shill

Anonymous No. 16338786

>>16338532
>Shelby on a jet ski
/sfg/ before /sfg/
(also requesting if anyone has it)

Anonymous No. 16338855

>>16338777
trips confirm

Anonymous No. 16339081

>>16337554
>ohhh this looks interesting
>>16337549
>it's a fucking Wheatstone bridge
yawn

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Anonymous No. 16339090

https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1826811394911777089

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Anonymous No. 16339094

https://spacenews.com/nasa-adds-three-companies-to-launch-services-contract-for-smallsat-missions/
>NASA announced Aug. 22 that it selected Arrow Science and Technology, Impulse Space and Momentus Space for its Venture-Class Acquisition of Dedicated and Rideshare (VADR) contract. That selection allows them to compete for task orders for launching specific missions, typically small satellites willing to accept higher levels of risk in exchange for lower launch costs.

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Anonymous No. 16339096

>>16339094
>A NASA fact sheet about VADR, though, continues to emphasize the use of small launch vehicles. That fact sheet, linked to in the NASA press release about the addition of the three companies to the contract, listed five examples of venture-class launch vehicles available for such missions. Three of the five — Astra Space’s Rocket 3, Relativity Space’s Terran 1 and Virgin Orbit’s LauncherOne — are no longer in service, and Virgin Orbit itself went bankrupt in 2023.

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/nasa-lsp-fact-sheet-for-venture-class-5-21-21.pdf?emrc=2c0f40

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Anonymous No. 16339100

>>16339096
the document is from May 2021

Anonymous No. 16339142

>>16338476
it goes without saying that they're retarded if they post on /pol/

Anonymous No. 16339143

>>16338082
>quantum
Stopped reading there.

Anonymous No. 16339145

>>16338562
An article that says neither of them really care about space wouldn't be very interesting.

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Anonymous No. 16339163

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1826757687918690802

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Anonymous No. 16339164

>>16339163
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1826762209172881838

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>>16339164

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>>16339163
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1826761659056058659

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Anonymous No. 16339167

>>16339166
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1826764602941866468

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16339168

>>16339167
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1826776099046785344

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Anonymous No. 16339169

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1826776099046785344

Anonymous No. 16339179

>>16339164
>we won't be free floating

Pfffft. So they are just dicking around the capsule exit port on some monkey bars? Hardly an EVA, mega gay. My excitement for this mission has gone to 0. Oh well at least spacex makes some fiat buxx.

Anonymous No. 16339181

>>16339179
they are testing all the most difficult and important parts with this but making it safe by staying behind the capsule with respect to micrometeroids
what difference would free floating make?

Anonymous No. 16339185

>>16339179
Polaris 2 2026 screencap this

Anonymous No. 16339188

>>16339181
>with respect to micrometeroids

NASA tier safety complaint

Anonymous No. 16339189

>>16339188
not really

Anonymous No. 16339192

>>16339189
Yes really

Anonymous No. 16339194

>>16339192
you don't think micrometeroids are real? are you retarded?
why take unneccessary risks that don't advance the tech in any way?

Anonymous No. 16339206

>>16339194
Micrometeors are so rare as to be basically non-existent for a few day mission duration. The ones that do exist are typically fast enough that they will punch straight through the capsule or not quite punch through and create a whole cone of spalling metals.

Anonymous No. 16339207

>>16339194
OK cool no more EVAs forever then by this logic

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Anonymous No. 16339209

>>16339206
wrong on both accounts, they are quite common and generally not bad enough to "punch through" dragon
its completely pointless to take extra risks if you aren't going to learn anything substantial from it

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20230014465

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20230014465/downloads/SpX_Dragon_MMOD_Inspection_Campaign_20231003.pdf

Anonymous No. 16339213

>>16339207
do you jump out of the window when you have to go to the store? you aren't going to break your ankles every time so why not
I'm talking about unncesessary risk, Polaris 2 might very well have a free floating EVA helped by this exact flight by characterizing how much MMOD they need and so on

Anonymous No. 16339216

>>16339207
Ideally yeah. What do you need them for?

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Anonymous No. 16339229

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_vA81o73hE
>What is MMOD Shielding?

a space suit is never going to be as protected from micrometeroids as capsule or space station

Anonymous No. 16339231

>>16339209
Eyeballing that chart, something like 0.02/hr with a maximum depth of maybe 2mm over the large surface area of a dragon capsule. Wow that sure looks like an absolute nothingburger.

Anonymous No. 16339236

>>16339231
The spacewalk is going to happen at 435 miles instead of 250miles the ISS is at and the spacesuits don't have the same shielding as the dragon
so again, you are fucking wrong and retarded, the altitude might affect the characteristics of the micrometeroids and the suits themselves are going to be more suspectible to micrometeroids than the outer shell of dragon and not only that, its going to be much more critical

as I said fro the start, completely unnecessary risk

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Anonymous No. 16339246

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1826925463333142569

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>>16339246

Anonymous No. 16339249

>>16339236
>The spacewalk is going to happen at 435 miles instead of 250miles the ISS is at

And?

>the spacesuits don't have the same shielding as the dragon

A sub 2mm penetration of soft ass aluminum is not going to penetrate the thick ass layers of a space suit, maybe at worst would need a piece of duct tape to cover the tiny hole and a plaster to cover the booboo.

>the altitude might affect the characteristics of the micrometeroids

How? This is all relative to the velocity of the astronaut. Unfounded speculation.

>as I said fro the start, completely unnecessary risk

OK, no more spacewalks then, 1 micrometeor every ~500 hours with a 2mm penetration depth is too scary I guess. Should probably just stay here and fix our problems here on earth.

Anonymous No. 16339251

>>16339249
>Unfounded speculation.
exactly, that is why it doesn't make sense to take unnecessary risks
by taking Dragon there and returning it, they will be able to study the environment at those altitudes

Anonymous No. 16339256

>>16339251
Cool NASA post. In fact I'll give this a post-apollo NASA stamp since no Apollo astronauts would have given a shit about a 400 vs 200km orbit when the negligible strike rate of a nothingburger at 200km is once every ~500 hours over the surface area of an entire capsule.

Anonymous No. 16339262

>>16339256
what would they learn by making the umbicilical longer exactly? you haven't answered that

Anonymous No. 16339270

>>16339262
>what would they learn

This is a richfag circlejerk space tourism session with a veneer of science to make them not seem like rich douchebags.

Anonymous No. 16339278

>>16339270
ah, of course
there you go, though your r*ddit spacing >>16339249 did already give hints about your underlying thoughts
and once again you didn't answer the actual question

Anonymous No. 16339291

>>16339278
Responding to different points is not reddit spacing and you should kill yourself. You also didn't respond to my reddit spaced points so I'll wait for you to do so first.

Anonymous No. 16339320

>>16339291
I did respond, from the start my point has been that doing a free falling spacewalk would present unnecessary and unknown risks which you are basically confirming in your posts
you just don't seem to care about these risks and that SpaceX and the astronauts should just do it anyway, even if you can't present any good reason to do so
you just started screeching about richfags all of a sudden lmaoo

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Anonymous No. 16339370

me facing certain death from super scary lethal micrometeorites

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Anonymous No. 16339386

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1826953089846231467

Anonymous No. 16339388

>>16339386
What happened to Kuiper? They did that prototype launch and nothing since then.

Anonymous No. 16339389

>>16339386
does he know for sure? could those be prototype kuiper antennas?

Anonymous No. 16339392

>>16339388
Wasn't ULA supposed to launch some Kuiper test sats for the second Vulcan flight, but they won't be ready, so they have to use a mass simulator instead?

Anonymous No. 16339394

>>16339388
I guess its still progressing, saw some article yesterday about Amazon expanding a Kuiper factory but didn't read it thoroughly

Anonymous No. 16339395

>>16339392
Second Vulcan flight was supposed to launch Dreamchaser.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16339397

>>16339392
kuiper has 2 prototype satellites, but I guess not
would be weird to install them on your freetime yacht just for some very intermittent testing, especially two antennas

Anonymous No. 16339398

>>16339389
kuiper has like 2 prototype satellites in orbit, but I guess not
would be weird to install them on your yacht just for some very intermittent testing, especially two antennas

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Anonymous No. 16339428

https://x.com/Lori_Garver/status/1826819475632537956

pretty funny considering what they've been doing during the current administration
lmao

Anonymous No. 16339435

>>16339428
that's how you know she's lying

Anonymous No. 16339447

>>16339388
one launch scheduled for an atlas V later this year
one launch scheduled for new glenn later this year (lol)
two launches scheduled for RS1s later this year (lol?)

Anonymous No. 16339468

>>16339395
thanks, it's been a while
Dreamchaser being late is more annoying

Anonymous No. 16339522

>>16338310
Right, and the easiest way to transport Hydrogen is water
You ship water to the moon, electrolyse it to recover hydrogen. Then react the hydrogen with lunar oxygen, and bingo - you have water

Anonymous No. 16339654

Staging

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>>16338089
>>16338089
>>16338089

Anonymous No. 16339682

>>16339143
>>16338087
You think I didn't notice? I'm aware

Anonymous No. 16339862

>>16337639
So?

Anonymous No. 16340086

>>16336308
>>16336310
great!! now the russian asset can track all the usn ships in real time.

Anonymous No. 16340172

>>16340086
It’s not a russian asset lol, you’re retarded

Anonymous No. 16340229

RFA:
>We are quite confident that this is not related to the design
LMAO how? How do you light your turbopump on fire without a design failure?
I think they did that shit on purpose. They were forced by their owners to push for an unrealistic launch date.
They realized it was gonna be a shitshow unsuccessful flight then and destroyed the vehicle to get more time and roll the improvements they want into the second one.