🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 15:55:11 UTC No. 16332789
Propellantless propulsion edition
https://youtu.be/T8ghnnCRQJs
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 15:56:55 UTC No. 16332791
These men claim to have a drive which in 25 to 30 years means we will all have our own personal flying vehicles that require no fuel, and could see you live in florida and work in China and then be back home in time for dinner. Spread the word
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 15:57:28 UTC No. 16332792
>Propellantless propulsion
Let's ignore Newton's second law, the thread
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 16:00:48 UTC No. 16332799
>>16332792
Dogmatic thinking.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 17:33:16 UTC No. 16333028
>>16332791
i claim to have a harem of cosplaying maids desperate to cater to my every whim
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 17:42:27 UTC No. 16333059
>>16333028
Me too :) big titty version tho
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 17:45:23 UTC No. 16333071
>>16332789
Very soon...
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 17:55:38 UTC No. 16333100
>>16333071
If they had the funding they could fast track it. As is they think it'll be 20 to 30 odd years before we have personal antigrav cars assuming the state doesn't interfere( which you can beg your life on it will). so maybe never unless we dismantle the current government and intelligence agencies and replace it with something like hoppean libertarianism( the only libertarianism that is actually tenable,I'll leave a link if you want a quick primer on its ideas, here)
https://youtu.be/C2HkpPAvw0E
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:02:01 UTC No. 16333117
>>16332791
>in 25 to 30 years
That's odd cause 60 years ago we were only 10 years away from flying cars for everybody.
I like the idea that we've had the ability to mass produce "flying cars" since we reverse engineered the wreckage of the Roswell incident, but the government decided making this technology publicly available would have too many undesirable consequences.
For example, instead of using ICBMs to send nukes across the planet, anyone could do it in mere seconds and in stealth mode! It's sad to think this way but maybe somethings are just not meant for human beings.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:02:30 UTC No. 16333119
/sfg/ is still on page 4
>>16331535
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:05:42 UTC No. 16333135
>>16333119
Smart money is in this thread
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:10:37 UTC No. 16333146
>>16333100
First we will have to max out fossil fuel industry, then we will have to max out the EV industry, then we will have max out the nuclear industry, After that maybe we can move on to anti grav.
>>16333117
Yeah, imagine zipping in and out of a place.That's scary.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:14:06 UTC No. 16333153
>>16333146
>First we will have to max out fossil fuel industry, then we will have to max out the EV industry, then we will have max out the nuclear industry, After that maybe we can move on to anti grav.
Please no...;_;
Hopefully these guys manage to get the funding and make something which is un ignorable which grabs the world's attention and peopel start demanding it. Get the cat out of the bag before they come down with a case of the suicides
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:24:04 UTC No. 16333173
I would so love to live in the middle of nowhere, like deep in the woods of BC or the steppe of Mongolia in a wooden house constructed by skilled craftsmen who flew( floated?) Out there and then fucked off. Total peace. And when I need necessities I hop in tesla hover edition and am off to the nicest grocery store in Europe in an hour rather than 18 and then back home in another hour dining on a delicious pizza in a house surrounded by terrain that couldn't even grow a tomatoe. Total independence, I fantasize about that often.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:32:43 UTC No. 16333194
>>16333117
Borders would need insane policing in the sky, yes, but i don't think that's excuse enough to justify denying this the world. Maybe you're free to fly within the boarders of your nation/ states/ union, but if you want to go international you must clear a flight plan or be shot down by some orbital defense system when you breech the designated barrier
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:34:36 UTC No. 16333198
>>16333117
> the idea that we've had the ability to mass produce "flying cars" since we reverse engineered the wreckage of the Roswell incident
Yeap they definitely have that tech. Saving it for ww3 I bet. Fuckers.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:34:52 UTC No. 16333199
>>16333146
>Yeah, imagine zipping in and out of a place.That's scary.
You sure told that strawman what's what anon!! Next time call him a fag too.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:57:53 UTC No. 16333239
>>16332792
Newton also believed in the kabbalah.
I'm not sure how reliable he really was.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 19:03:04 UTC No. 16333253
>>16333239
So does trump...might have to start looking into it myself. help me I'm poor
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:06:08 UTC No. 16333370
>>16332791
These men are either running a scam or are deluding themselves.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:08:37 UTC No. 16333371
>>16333117
We don’t have personal aircraft for the common not because we lack a technological ability to make them - but because no government would allow it to be, for a variety of reasons.
Heck, even a regular cars are on their way to be phased out so that they can only be for the few.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:09:51 UTC No. 16333372
>>16333173
>helicopters
>private jets
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 22:46:17 UTC No. 16333617
they promised men on mars this year
now its an empty dragon in 2 weeks ? lol
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 23:21:20 UTC No. 16333652
>>16333371
It's actually a miracle cars where permitted in the first place. Much too much autonomy for the average prole. You mean you can go anywhere you want without notice?! Ban it!
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 23:51:59 UTC No. 16333691
>>16333173
>total independence
>can't grow his own food and is totally dependent on grocery stores
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Aug 2024 23:56:25 UTC No. 16333696
>>16332792
Laws only apply until they don't.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 00:01:19 UTC No. 16333705
>>16333696
wtf when did /sci/ become based
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 03:19:33 UTC No. 16333901
Sloppy job. I would've gone with
>Elon Musk is quietly sending unqualified first timers on a deadly mission to test his spacesuits for the first time in the vacuum of space for 5 whole days
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 03:32:46 UTC No. 16333915
>>16333691
Independence to choose where to live obv. But with some of these purported technologies, you could have a ' over unity ' engine pulling energy from the vacuum from space time br able to power your home indefinitely. Thay way you could have intensive irrigation and power needs taken care of to grown you own crop anywhere, even the arctic inside pollytunnels.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 03:40:13 UTC No. 16333923
>>16333370
>running a scam
not likely, have you seen the sheer amount of work they put into those styrofoam devices over several years, testing all those different configurations and testing in a vacuum chamber tirelessly for years?
>deluding themselves
most likely
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 03:43:30 UTC No. 16333926
>>16333922
>the big ones scare me anyway
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 03:44:04 UTC No. 16333928
>>16333923
They don't seem stupid enough to chase delusions
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 03:53:17 UTC No. 16333932
>>16333928
That too, plus the whole QI thing and the IVO drive which the Exodus guy lowkey called them out for basing their drive off their patents, they all seem related and it's like theres an air of legitimacy there, so I'm optimistically skeptical about it
in-space tests or bust, funniest outcome would be it actually working and all the physicists seething about "muh laws"
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 03:55:20 UTC No. 16333934
>>16333801
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/18257280
>I'm not sure that's an intentional depressurization, if you look at the side of the rocket where the flame emerges from there's no visible vent in the structure, but there is a propellent line.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:00:28 UTC No. 16333941
>>16333932
>actually working and all the physicists seething about "muh laws"
I'm looking forward to the fucking cope. They tie their identities and self worth to dogma, shitheads. Always the most arrogant and dismissive that lot.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:09:34 UTC No. 16333945
>>16333941
>They tie their identities and self worth to dogma
lol exactly, they'd be the first to miss something that goes against their great dark matter idol, not surprised if it takes outsider science like McCullough to dismantle that and take science out of stagnation, but by far the funniest outcome would be if both are wrong, and the drive works but its not because of QI at all, that would be something lol
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:11:31 UTC No. 16333947
>>16333932
>funniest outcome would be it actually working and all the physicists seething about "muh laws"
This would be kino
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:12:46 UTC No. 16333948
>>16333933
They just need to make it longer to increase the payload bay size, simple as.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:15:02 UTC No. 16333951
>>16333945
>outsider science
Right. Revolutionary change never comes from the centre of a discipline, it's almost exclusively from the fringe, or from a domain entirely unrelated.
It's often a simple lack of imagination. Henry Ford said, “If I’d asked my customers what they wanted, they’d have said a faster horse”
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:16:29 UTC No. 16333952
>>16333951
In this case its the whole dark matter dogma and the constant chase for it, if it actually turns out that dark matter was a nothingburger this entire time and has only had mainstream science and theoretical physicists chasing their own tail all these years the cope would be immense lol
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:21:57 UTC No. 16333957
>>16333952
>the cope would be immense lol
A tsunami tidal wave of cope kek. Start saving crying basedjaks
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:39:03 UTC No. 16333967
>make a Jupiter moon probe
>send it on a leisurely tour of the inner solar system for half a decade before reaching Jupiter
gravity assist meme must end
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:40:39 UTC No. 16333969
>>16333967
Plasma Magnet Sail fixes this
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:41:12 UTC No. 16333971
>>16333967
Soon we'll be using exodus tech tool levitate my fat ass up a flight of stairs. Gravity and me will have a truce
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:44:35 UTC No. 16333974
>>16333952
it would be such a massive embarrassment that they could never possibly admit it. instead they will carry on with the dark matter meme eternally and will allays abuse the peer review system to ostracize anyone who develops a solution to the issue which might force them to admit they were wrong about dark matter
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:46:06 UTC No. 16333977
>>16333969
>>16333971
My wild idea is using either of these whichever is proven to work to design special craft that link up to and attach securely with these already launched probes and just give them all the delta-v they need to get to their targets asap
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:47:05 UTC No. 16333978
>>16333971
>DUDE OMG MUH ALIENZSSSTH!!!
>MUH COMIC BOOK SOIENCE FICTION MEMES!!!
when did /sfg/ turn into a star trek convention?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:49:01 UTC No. 16333980
>>16333977
That is a good idea. Nice proof of concept too
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:52:22 UTC No. 16333981
>>16333978
Its like you wanna walk up stairs. The future us bright anon! Have some goddamn FAITH!
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:52:24 UTC No. 16333982
>>16333980
Also Oumuamua intercept probe, we're gonna find out what that fucker really was for certain.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:53:47 UTC No. 16333984
picrel is me soaring through the vast expanse of outer space in the marsbound starship, passing the time with droning sounds, being all around based, and making my shipmates feel an unnerving sense of dread
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:55:03 UTC No. 16333986
>>16333984
>anon's in the cargo hold playing mahler again
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 05:14:52 UTC No. 16334005
>>16333863
maybe
https://www.globalair.com/articles/
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 05:58:43 UTC No. 16334033
>>16333984
>God damnit why is this motherfucker playing the piano AGAIN and ALWAYS during my sleep rotation
>How did he even get a piano in here anyway, it's way beyond his mass allowance
>man fuck that dude throw him out the airlock >>16333984
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 06:14:28 UTC No. 16334045
>>16333652
Cars restrict autonomy, no expand it jackass. The purpose of high speed freeways is to keep the ants on their trail and out of the business of government and military stations. Moron.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 06:37:20 UTC No. 16334063
>>16334045
>The machine that lets you go anywhere at any time restricts freedom! You can't go places that have fences! The Automobile did this, don't you see!?
Real thonkeroo there, chap.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:08:50 UTC No. 16334099
>>16334063
You cannot go "anywhere at any time", every word of that sentence is false. You go where the planners let you go, and it costs time and money. You drive through checkpoints at political borders. Your identity is stamped into your license plate.
Technology has zero correlation with freedom. They are completely unrelated concepts with virtually zero overlap.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:18:55 UTC No. 16334110
>>16334063
> go anywhere at any time
So long as you follow prescribed routes with checkpoints, borders, cameras, etc... all documenting your exact type of car and unique identification plate. Meanwhile you pay the government and jew megabux to maintain the road network as well as fuelling and maintaining your car.
Wow such freedom.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:21:11 UTC No. 16334114
>>16334110
This is why Americans hate trains, busses and other transit, they provide too much anonymity.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:23:18 UTC No. 16334118
>>16334099
>>16334110
As opposed to mass transit, which has less flexibility, rigid schedules, cameras, and public eyes everywhere. What a sales pitch.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:24:10 UTC No. 16334119
>>16334114
In what world is public transport anonymous? Hell they even look at you weird if you try to pay for it in cash.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:27:18 UTC No. 16334121
>>16334118
Driving cars is no better, you are coping.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:30:47 UTC No. 16334127
>>16334121
Coping implies you have any kind of counterargument to offer.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:32:05 UTC No. 16334129
>>16334118
Rigid schedules, like staring at asphalt completely still for 2 hours every day
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:34:02 UTC No. 16334131
>>16334129
Even the worst traffic in the US during anything but extraordinary circumstances is nowhere near that bad.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:41:31 UTC No. 16334139
>>16334127
You don't have one either. Big brother is watching everything. Doesn't matter if you have a car or ride the train.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:45:11 UTC No. 16334141
>>16334131
I'm talking about your body, occupied by this rigid activity for your 50-100 mile commute
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:47:15 UTC No. 16334143
>>16333901
CBS had the most dystopian logo in the world
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:50:01 UTC No. 16334147
>>16332789
/Sfg/ thinks being strapped into a space pod and fired into the sun is freedom - because you get to go farther and faster than ever!!!!!
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:55:27 UTC No. 16334149
isnt vast supposed to launch their station next year? how's that shit coming along?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:10:53 UTC No. 16334159
>>16333967
It's either that or cock-tease flyby missions with tiny payloads. It might change if there is a good high energy kick stage for SS.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:14:36 UTC No. 16334162
>>16334141
Who their right mind does a 50 to 100 mile commute on a day to day, except people who enjoy driving?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:15:53 UTC No. 16334165
>>16333901
That would have gotten them slapped with a Libel suit. SpaceX is advertising it loudly and posting tons of photos from testing.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:20:44 UTC No. 16334167
>>16334162
>Who their right mind does a 50 to 100 mile commute on a day to day
A whole shitload of people. What planet do you live on dumb cunt?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:23:11 UTC No. 16334171
>>16334167
I said who in their right mind, and the answer is 1%. 5% if you round up absolutely everything over an hour.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:28:12 UTC No. 16334175
>>16334171
Combine that group with the other group of "the worst traffic in extraordinary circumstances" and we have the larger group
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:34:53 UTC No. 16334183
>>16333173
If you can fly there so can anyone else with equivalent tech. You'd only get peace after all the shithole countries were nuked to extinction.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:37:51 UTC No. 16334184
>>16333945
>I'm looking forward to the fucking cope.
That's funny. I remember hearing exactly the same thing with the faster than light neutrinos. People made dozens of threads about how physicists and "Einstein" were gonna be BTFO. Remind me, how did that go? Then there was the EMdrive scam, which slowly unravelled until it died. Now we have EMdrive2: Electric Boogaloo, which you think is definitely gonna work this time.
It takes an outsider like Mike because a real physicist would spot all the ridiculous errors and contradictions in his ideas. They would not publish something so obviously bullshit. Also note that the substantial part of what Mike proposed (the galaxy stuff) was published in the 80's, it's not a new idea. He just copied and pasted it, and added some sophistry.
>>16333951
>Revolutionary change never comes from the centre of a discipline, it's almost exclusively from the fringe
When has that ever been true in physics? Relativity and quantum mechanics both lead by the mainstream. They were also foreseeable. Newton was the mainstream.
Note that the universe has already spoken, the orbits of wide binary stars reject QI.
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:40:50 UTC No. 16334187
>>16334171
Did they teach you how to do maths in high school bro?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:45:52 UTC No. 16334195
>>16334187
>>16334175
Well, which is it? Are they making good time or bogged down in horrible slow traffic for hours? Both of these can't be true at the same time.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:49:33 UTC No. 16334200
>>16334195
Yeah, looks like they didn't teach you maths in school. Feel bad for zoomers.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:51:54 UTC No. 16334205
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:52:55 UTC No. 16334207
>>16334205
No argument found, thanks for playing
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:53:08 UTC No. 16334208
>>16334195
you made him seethe bigly lol
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:54:16 UTC No. 16334211
>>16334208
Wow epic pwn samefag
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:56:38 UTC No. 16334212
>>16334195
You're sitting in a car either way bozo
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:58:34 UTC No. 16334213
>>16334211
boomer alert haha
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:58:41 UTC No. 16334215
>>16334212
I can confidently speak for 95% of Americans when I say "for less than an hour."
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 09:12:04 UTC No. 16334229
>>16334171
If your daily commute to work lasts more than an hour one way and the money you bring home, after tax, isn’t triple digits and starts with at least “2” you’re ngmi just fucking quit man
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 09:51:44 UTC No. 16334262
>>16333974
That's why space flight tests are needed.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:14:58 UTC No. 16334281
>>16332792
>LAAAAWWW!!!!
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:22:21 UTC No. 16334287
>>16333984
Fucking kek
Makes me think of this...
Let the space illness begin, as the speed increases outside so to does our hold of reality begin to run away from us, to leave is behind... where we're going we won't need eyes to see
https://youtu.be/YIMvM8u9C-o
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:44:12 UTC No. 16334297
https://x.com/ogogcrypto/status/164
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:51:29 UTC No. 16334305
>>16333974
>it would be such a massive embarrassment that they could never possibly admit it.
This is nonsense. String theory was essentially what you describe and they readily admit it was embarrassing nonsense.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:03:39 UTC No. 16334314
https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comme
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:24:48 UTC No. 16334337
>>16333967
True. The only gravity assists we should be dling are off of Jupiter in order to reach outer solar system targets faster. Getting to Jupiter should be done by direct trajectory, not fucking around in the inner planets.
Build bigger rockets with higher energy kick stages that throw heavier payloads faster, for less money.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:29:39 UTC No. 16334346
>>16333974
>t. isn't aware of the time everyone conceded that the Aether theory was false even though decades of serious work had gone into it
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 12:28:58 UTC No. 16334396
Two questions:
1) Is the Starliner decision/announcement this week? Wednesday right; or did they kick it down the road again?
2) Have we seen what the SpaceX EVA suit HUD looks like?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 12:31:31 UTC No. 16334403
>>16333363
almost a light day away (22 hrs is the actual distance/one way delay)
it’s unironically insane we’ve gotten these bubs that far and can still communicate and execute commands
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:20:34 UTC No. 16334469
>>16334401
Wrong thread? If yes, please point me to the thread this was intended for.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:33:18 UTC No. 16334481
>>16333363
>>16334403
Make me cautiously optimistic that probes to Alpha Centauri could work
>>16334401
/sfg/ and autism, name a better duo
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:36:25 UTC No. 16334483
>>16334481
the deep deep deep space network lol
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:37:11 UTC No. 16334485
https://youtu.be/y66XRSRjq0c
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:37:47 UTC No. 16334486
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:39:24 UTC No. 16334489
>>16334486
SOVL
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:43:48 UTC No. 16334493
Now that mass budgets aren’t a problem we should slingshot a super heavy armored probe as close to the sun as possible, with more than double the RTG nuclear fuel as the voyagers (which already have a lot)
We could get these babies so far so quickly and explore way past the voyagers ever could
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:46:32 UTC No. 16334495
>>16334401
you cant escape the homestuck even in space
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:48:12 UTC No. 16334497
>>16333100
> /sfg/ is infested by a pack of loopy libertarians that think they will use their silver dimes to buy an anti-gravity space buggy powered by hydrogen peroxide.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 13:48:16 UTC No. 16334498
>>16334493
is there any other method to power deep space probes besides radioisotope thermal generators? Or is that literally it.
Spicy earth rocks or bust I guess.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:29:52 UTC No. 16334530
>>16334511
This is so wonderful, the first indian borthday in space
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:32:39 UTC No. 16334535
>>16334511
Do they light a candle on a cupcake or something up there? Surely they must have celebrated in some way.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:40:41 UTC No. 16334539
>>16334503
I wonder how many Starship launches you need to get a full tanker in low Mars orbit. As the author mentions, in the long term, nuclear-electric tugs seem to be the logical solution. Maybe SpaceX will do eventually do that themselves?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:45:44 UTC No. 16334546
>reality is a psychoreactive hologram with hyperspace and multiple timelines
>psychic abilities are real
>telepathy, remote viewing, telekinesis, bilocation, astral projection, levitation, teleportation, manifestation
>neurons have quantum computers in the microtubules
>human cells have scalar waves in the mitochondria, possibly zero-point energy
>technology exists based on these principles
>ufos
>ufos range from simple drones to invisible hyperspace military labs
>ufos potentially have access to all the psychic physics abilities
>ufos levitate, and some can astral project and timeline shift
>ufos use zero-point energy and electromagnetic gravitics
>ufos have synthetic telepathy systems
>ufos can operate invisibly as a hyperdimensional hologram and manipulate 3D reality in ways that include remote manifestation and timeline shifting
>the technology appears to be shared by the military and 3D aliens, with the aliens having better technology
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:55:25 UTC No. 16334557
>>16334539
You need 15 launches to fully fuel one starship already in LEO, and that only gives you about 7km/s of ∆v. It's 3 or 4 to mars, plus whatever it costs to capture in a reasonable orbit. I'd say you'd need 3 or 4 of those trips so 45-60 launches
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:14:52 UTC No. 16334586
>>16332789
It's infrared video, the thing you see is super hot.
I wonder why people make things super hot the expelled them, if only there were a word for the stuff we burned to propel oneself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwO
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:16:49 UTC No. 16334593
>>16334557
The MSR cost estimate is $10 billion and climbing. SpaceX is driving for a marginal cost of a Starship launch sub $1 million. That difference buys a lot of launches.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:24:22 UTC No. 16334609
>>16334546
Big if true
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:29:01 UTC No. 16334622
>>16334609
>there are native astral entities in hyperspace that are not well understood, possibly reality embedded AIs
>this could additionally be a simulation, with a base reality
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:31:14 UTC No. 16334624
>>16334622
Now you lost me
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:36:08 UTC No. 16334636
>>16334593
>marginal cost of a Starship launch sub $1 million
Hope it will happen, but not holding my breath for that. Sub $10 millions would still be pretty nice.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:38:41 UTC No. 16334642
https://x.com/aang254/status/182576
>With ~260 frames received from JUICE at Bochum @amsatdl overnight, here's an animation of the full moon flyby from 2 point of views! It seems the data can be RGB, so it should be quite nice for Earth data later.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:41:04 UTC No. 16334647
>>16334593
Doesn’t it burn like $900,000 in propellant at bulk market rates every flight?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:42:35 UTC No. 16334652
>>16334642
whenever I see videos of celestial body flybys I always like to imagine the spacecraft yeling "WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" as it rockets by
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:45:53 UTC No. 16334662
>>16334652
I do the same but include the doppler effect of the "woo" changing as it flies by
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:46:53 UTC No. 16334665
hear me out: private dragon flight to the chinese station
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:50:25 UTC No. 16334672
>>16333967
Refueled Starship can launch directly. Plus you can use it to aerocapture when you get there before releasing the payload
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:51:19 UTC No. 16334674
>>16334583
Funny enough they dont need the suits. They could return in a cargo dragon with no suits, and they absolutely would if the ISS was exploding
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:57:53 UTC No. 16334686
>>16334546
Cool
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:59:07 UTC No. 16334688
>>16334497
Peabrained authoritarian detected. Remember to vote red! Or blue...doesn't matter. Keep paying taxes cattle
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:00:28 UTC No. 16334689
>>16334586
The uap surface is ambient temperature
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:02:23 UTC No. 16334692
>>16334159
this is the only way flybys should be done
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:06:57 UTC No. 16334699
>>16334621
Thanks for showing it to me anon.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:35:40 UTC No. 16334741
>>16334674
Could at additional risk. The suits are used in case of a depressurization, and yes that has happened.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:39:43 UTC No. 16334745
>>16334689
Then it wouldn't be blowing out the image in infrared. It's colder in the high atmosphere at plane cruising altitude, conveniently exactly where it is.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:45:08 UTC No. 16334752
>still no announcement of a (rotating) SpaceX Station
It's over.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:45:50 UTC No. 16334753
>>16334743
border patrol spy balloon
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:47:47 UTC No. 16334759
>still no announcement of a (non-rotating, non-Euclidean) SpaceX Station
It's over
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:49:34 UTC No. 16334766
>still no announcement of an artificially created SpaceX planet
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:06:47 UTC No. 16334792
>>16334741
Pussies need not apply in outer space. Get a new job
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:07:54 UTC No. 16334796
>Still no announcement of OFT-5 launch date
This is hella grim my dudes
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:29:48 UTC No. 16334841
>>16334745
Dunno if forgot the reasoning, you'll need to Dave farvor the pilot who took those images
https://youtu.be/5HInaJxFxWs
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:55:59 UTC No. 16334883
>>16334498
Coal
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:57:54 UTC No. 16334889
>>16334647
Not if they make their own.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 17:59:19 UTC No. 16334894
>>16334665
What docking ports does the Tiangong use? Some russian variant?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:01:03 UTC No. 16334900
>>16334498
https://x.com/RollsRoyce/status/180
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:04:22 UTC No. 16334906
>>16334546
Each of us is a terminal, and the universe is our collective simulacra. And as you can see, normalfags ruin everything.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:14:01 UTC No. 16334922
>>16334894
The Chinese use mostly the same specs as the IDA ports on the ISS, but there's a lot of weirdo details that keep the supposedly androgynous Dragon and Starliner ports from linking up, so there'd probably be some minor incompatibility that keeps Dragon from linking up with Tiangong.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:17:01 UTC No. 16334928
>>16334909
https://x.com/Roberto05246129/statu
>Footage of the launch of the 9M723 Iskander-M SRBM
I know it's pol bait, but it's still fun watching the Russians take some lessons from China on how to film rocket launches
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:21:33 UTC No. 16334936
>>16334922
I wonder if that's because they're paranoid about foreign entities docking with their station.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:23:17 UTC No. 16334941
>>16334900
How does it work?
This is just a string of buzzwords with an accompanying CGI video that isn’t technical whatsoever. I can also handwave a “micro reactor” to investors to “enable a net carbon neutral future and meet the growing energy demands with emphasis on reduced operating volume and high energy output desirability” or whatever else you need to say to get money
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:25:22 UTC No. 16334946
>>16334909
Desperate for work just like their buddies in Yuzhmash that they ran out of town kek
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:25:45 UTC No. 16334948
>>16334941
Yea I just posted that as a laugh, it's total bs. RR did that to bump up their stock price no doubt
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:26:35 UTC No. 16334949
>>16334948
Like LockMart going through that period a decade ago where they were hyping up their non-existent fusion reactor lol
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:29:14 UTC No. 16334955
>>16334949
Yeap. Fuck off with this shit, show it or shut up.
Like the guys in op's post, show a working model of your 'exodus' drive before saying you can fly halfway across the world and back in under an hour
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:40:06 UTC No. 16334965
Do RTGs have a 100% efficiency rate?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:57:22 UTC No. 16334990
>>16334965
no, thermocouple efficiency is relatively bad (and limited by thermodynamic laws anyway)
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:13:06 UTC No. 16335007
>>16334752
>he doesn't know
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:19:57 UTC No. 16335015
>>16334965
>he doesn't know about the carnot efficiency equation
ngmi
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:33:19 UTC No. 16335040
>>16334900
>>16334941
It's literally just a small scale fission reactor. Nothing scifi. They avoid saying nuclear because people are irrational.
Actual reactors for space over RTGs would be an improvement through, but this isn't for that.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:34:31 UTC No. 16335043
>>16334990
I’ve never figured out how thermocouples work in this instance. What is the mechanism that takes hot rocks and converts that heat to electricity?
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:41:04 UTC No. 16335059
>>16335043
There's clever little guys living on the surface of the semiconductor.
They call them Maxwell's demons.
What they do is they take the unstructured high-entropy movement of molecules (heat) and turn that into structured low-entropy electron flow (electricity).
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 22:41:07 UTC No. 16335298
>>16335015
Speaking of Carnot, this KARNO thing seems like it'd be a pretty great fit for an NEP power cycle in space if you used a reactor fed heat-exchanger as the external source instead of burning stuff.
https://www.hyliion.com/karno/
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 22:53:28 UTC No. 16335309
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:11:43 UTC No. 16335326
why is there a giant statue of elon at starbase now
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:29:38 UTC No. 16335341
>>16335329
>>16335333
nahhh blud looks so goofy :skull:
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:34:07 UTC No. 16335347
>>16332791
Newtons laws are human dog food science that only shows humans lack of cognitive abilities to decipher the greatest secrets of the universe
We’re talking about alien science bitch!
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:45:15 UTC No. 16335352
>>16335333
>making a bust out of the meme drawing
eh 4/10 for effort but it's still hideous
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 00:26:37 UTC No. 16335394
>>16335333
Chain these cryptoniggers to the OLM on IFT5. TCD.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 00:27:59 UTC No. 16335398
Europa clipper is actually huge wtf
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 00:44:36 UTC No. 16335417
>>16335347
Hell yeah. It's only the law until it gets broken
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 01:08:12 UTC No. 16335435
>>16335333
why would they go through so much trouble of getting that thing made, and not even bother to get a model that looks correct?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 01:09:17 UTC No. 16335437
>>16335435
its supposed to be this
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 01:09:53 UTC No. 16335438
>>16335437
why would they make a giant statue of a bad drawing of the man?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 01:16:30 UTC No. 16335447
>>16334099
>>16334110
None of this applied in the days of the Model T. Where a horse wagon could go, so could the Model T, even off road no problem.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 01:27:33 UTC No. 16335457
>>16335438
It's a meme.
The drawing was done by someone who claimed Elon was his hero.
Elon acknowledged it and it's been reposted again and again either as mentions to Elon or as replies to his tweets.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 01:32:27 UTC No. 16335461
>>16335437
The original of this thing is going to get tracked down in 50 years and sold at auction for 80,000,000 lunar yen
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 01:40:34 UTC No. 16335467
>>16335464
>send poos into space
>suddenly shit
we warned you
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 01:45:43 UTC No. 16335475
>>16335464
Indian Space Station
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 02:37:11 UTC No. 16335527
>>16335464
designated shitting station
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 02:39:56 UTC No. 16335531
>>16335464
This is unironically every indian's dream
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 03:09:37 UTC No. 16335554
>>16333984
me as well
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 05:42:32 UTC No. 16335678
>you will never have a qt autistic japanese girlfriend like Clear to watch rocket launches with
Bros...
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 05:48:25 UTC No. 16335686
>>16335678
It's categorically over
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 06:04:44 UTC No. 16335692
>>16335678
i found an albanian girl for now
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 06:47:15 UTC No. 16335730
>>16333239
>Newton also believed in the kabbalah.
what the heck Newton was a Jew?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 06:53:12 UTC No. 16335733
>>16335692
are you a drug addict
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 06:56:08 UTC No. 16335734
>>16335733
not yet
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 07:03:36 UTC No. 16335744
>>16335733
Be careful, there's one Marxist who will throw around slurs to act like he's an oldfag but really he's a loser.who wamts to dominate the whole thread and force a narrative
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 07:32:44 UTC No. 16335783
>>16335692
>>16335733
>>16335744
am i missing a reference here?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:18:23 UTC No. 16335825
>>16335464
Doesn't everyone on ISS drink recycles urine?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:45:28 UTC No. 16335849
>>16335825
not the russians. americans gladly drink russian pee thoughever
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:01:42 UTC No. 16335959
>>16335043
Valence electrons in dissimilar metals have different energy levels. Bond two dissimilar metals together & apply a thermal gradient, and the electrons being kicked to higher energy levels in one metal can jump to the other metal, resulting in voltage.
You can imagine it like a ball bouncing on the floor landing on a nearby table. Once the electron is "stuck" in this high energy state it exerts a pressure (voltage) on the surrounding electrons, causing them to flow around the circuit, which generates electricity.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:08:39 UTC No. 16335989
>>16335959
Nice thanks. Do you know any specifics on the metal bonding? Is it an amalgam of specific metals?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:21:51 UTC No. 16335997
>>16335527
Kek
Designated shutting space
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:25:30 UTC No. 16336002
>>16332789
Their patent for the drive
https://patents.google.com/patent/U
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:32:22 UTC No. 16336007
https://www.exoduspropulsion.space/
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:48:50 UTC No. 16336016
>>16336007
I really, REALLY hope that something comes out of this or similar research because I want propellantless propulsion to exist, but
>Exodus Effect(TM)
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:52:39 UTC No. 16336020
>>16336016
Kek. They need a marketing campaign. Something along the lines of 'roads are for fags...your not a fag, are you?' bound to work.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 13:14:52 UTC No. 16336039
>>16336007
Alright, nazi thread it is. Goodbye everyone
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 13:19:00 UTC No. 16336045
>>16336039
Be sure to leave in your car pfffhahahhaa
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 13:38:48 UTC No. 16336068
>>16332789
Their energy efficiency promises sound a bit loony.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:46:28 UTC No. 16336131
>>16332789
Speaking of, what's up with that guy who sent his propellantless propulsion experiment to space?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:58:11 UTC No. 16336133
>>16336131
The host cubesat suffered a power failure before the thruster was turned on and it deorbited.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:58:55 UTC No. 16336134
>>16336133
Yeah, I know, has anything of note happened since?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:09:11 UTC No. 16336144
>>16336134
They're trying for a 2025 second attempt and another company (Exodus Propulsion) is also claiming to have a working horizon drive.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:15:25 UTC No. 16336150
>>16336144
I remember them saying they were gonna try and get an earlier launch but I guess that's not happening now.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:17:10 UTC No. 16336153
>>16336150
Look bro, sometimes you gotta play ball - even if you're as much of a spastic as you are - so it wouldn't really be ball, it would be retarded - even thus - you play
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:17:50 UTC No. 16336155
>>16336147
Someone tell me is this the designated shitting thread because recent posts in this one versus the other one indicates so. Need to know which has more ppm
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:19:27 UTC No. 16336157
>>16336153
fucking bots
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:20:37 UTC No. 16336161
>>16336155
Literally I have no clue I’ve just had both open all day and I’ve refrained from posting important things. I’m saving it for when we finally get back on track; this shit is so tiresome
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:22:00 UTC No. 16336163
>>16336161
>Tiresome
Such a shame.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:27:44 UTC No. 16336169
anon in other thread made a good point. No backlink, meme OP, and I think it was still on page 4 when this was made so. Bye!
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:29:00 UTC No. 16336170
>>16336155
This one has a better OP. Are you getting the impression that this one is the bad one? What about the posts here makes you say that?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:42:19 UTC No. 16336190
>>16336170
They both have terrible OPs so thats point is moot here (wouldve been deciding factor if one was better) its just the content of this thread being allot more /sffg/ or offtopic than /sfg/. Also not nearly as many news posts or images used, generally leads me to thinking this was the shitting thread.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:02:50 UTC No. 16336234
>>16336231
man those fuckin things are a lot bigger than I ever gave them credit for
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:10:27 UTC No. 16336245
>>16336234
They were designed to hold a whole seven seats to the ISS as a Space Shuttle replacement. Plus the trunk is big enough to hold station sized iROSAs.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:28:17 UTC No. 16336277
>>16336234
What what your mum said when she saw my grey pubic hairs that I've been trying to pluck
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:34:06 UTC No. 16336284
>>16336231
Boing could never
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:41:31 UTC No. 16336292
>>16336144
>(Exodus Propulsion) is also claiming to have a working horizon drive.
They're also not so subtly hinting in interviews that the company that launched the first drive (IVO) did so using their patent lmao >>16336002
Which might be true who knows
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:44:07 UTC No. 16336297
>>16336007
>Like chemical rockets, Exodus propulsion devices create momentum for a spacecraft's motion. However, Exodus' platform uses the interaction of electrostatic fields to harness the momentum found in electricity rather than in a chemical reaction.
>The process of generating the Exodus Effect(TM) is repeatable, predictable, published and well-understood. After being released from a 2-year national security hold, the first patent describing the Exodus Effect(TM) has finally been issued by the USPTO. Both acceleration and thrust (Newtons) are quantifiable and supported by 3rd-party validations. These facts are what separate Exodus from the pack.
>2-year national security hold
wat?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:50:09 UTC No. 16336305
The DIA just dropped a bunch of antigravity stuff and hyperphysics.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comme
https://www.dia.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Elect
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 16:57:34 UTC No. 16336314
>>16336310
Wonder what the phased array looks like underneath
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:08:16 UTC No. 16336321
>>16336308
>elon reclaiming tax money for mars colonisation
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:34:08 UTC No. 16336367
>>16336314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOm
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:41:29 UTC No. 16336376
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:42:00 UTC No. 16336378
https://x.com/SpaceOffshore/status/
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:43:32 UTC No. 16336379
>>16336365
That’s insane. Just… the size of it. It’s so light. Most people don’t understand the scale. It’s crazy…
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:55:39 UTC No. 16336404
🗑️ Barkon at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:58:20 UTC No. 16336408
>>16336404
There was a kiss earlier but I was misled.
HP8T
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:59:40 UTC No. 16336411
Automated namefag spambot you know the drill.
🗑️ Barkon at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:59:52 UTC No. 16336412
Just a forewarning. I would know if I was going to keep with this or not. Further, I don't know if it's true. I can't currently imagine the environment which cages such acts.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:03:44 UTC No. 16336419
>>16336367
Neat
🗑️ Barky at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:05:35 UTC No. 16336421
>>16336412
Well it's all good then, because I don't talk over my mind and I go by what is 'rational' - but a far greater power word than that.
Let's say stealing is prohibited. Then I haven't stolen and I'm doing what my mind can do the best performance of considering the environment.
Let's say that's wrong - same difference.
I - don't - break this mould.
However, given I am at odd ends and I'm being influenced to speak on all ends. I'll speak this.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:12:13 UTC No. 16336434
>>16336305
Cool thanks.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:13:36 UTC No. 16336438
"In direct contrast to chemical rocketry, an EPF propulsion system does not require any fuel or oxidizer or mechanical systems or propellant mass to be consumed or expelled in any way. EPF creates physical momentum from stored electrical energy in a hermetically sealed reactor, and over time, that created physical momentum is realized as physical force. The spacecraft is accelerated by the application of this physical force. As no mass fraction of the spacecraft is expended to create thrust, the lifespan of the EPF thruster, and thereby the spacecraft housing them, are near limitless. Realistic mass fractions of the spacecraft devoted to propulsion could be as little as 2% of the total mass of the spacecraft. This projected low mass fraction is in direct contrast to the 98% mass fractions currently accepted for chemical/electric spacecraft propulsion systems. Low propulsion mass fraction, very high efficiency, and never having to turn off the propulsion will bring about a revolution in the exploration of space. Travel times to the planets will be measured in days as opposed to months/years. Greater mass fractions of the spacecraft will be used for the payloads."
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:24:22 UTC No. 16336464
>>16336455
Space cadets support kamala
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:28:09 UTC No. 16336471
>>16336438
>EPF creates physical momentum from stored electrical energy in a hermetically sealed reactor, and over time, that created physical momentum is realized as physical force. The spacecraft is accelerated by the application of this physical force.
Funny they throw out so many physics buzzwords while actually managing to say nothing of substance at all. "hermetically sealed reactor" alone tells you this is 100% horse shit. The only unclear thing is whether it's an investment scam outright or a delusional schizo like Shawyer.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:48:39 UTC No. 16336494
>>16335989
Nah all I know is they need to have a difference in band gap energy
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:58:47 UTC No. 16336508
>>16332792
Just use sails matey
>>16334965
Hell fucking no. Carnot says that efficiency is proportional to temperature difference. Efficiency's crap, like 6.3%. Radioisotope power supplies could be more efficient if they didn't convert rads to heat.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:02:32 UTC No. 16336514
>>16336305
go discuss it at your first link
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:10:04 UTC No. 16336532
>>16336365
Interesting and saddening at the same time, watching them go down the path Spacex abandoned.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:15:57 UTC No. 16336543
>>16336532
May well work for them. They have a lot of experience working with carbon fiber.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:18:11 UTC No. 16336548
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:35:59 UTC No. 16336573
has anyone seen the MH370 videos? There's this plane being sorrounded by 3 orbs and then they dissapear along with the plane.
This guy Ashton Forbes claims US teleported the plane.somewhere.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:36:03 UTC No. 16336574
the real /sfg/ >>16333883 316 posts in 40 hours (7.9 pph)
this early staged fake and gay /sfg/ 270 posts in 52 hours (less than 5.2 pph)
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:37:12 UTC No. 16336576
>>16336532
It might work for them. SpaceX needed the cheap steel because a good chunk of the ones they'll ever make are leaving Earth forever, basically the same as a disposable rocket. Carbon fiber would actually be a problem once on Mars but steel will be a useful resource. Starship is a Mars city builder that also works as a constellation builder, Neutron is a constellation builder.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:37:28 UTC No. 16336577
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:39:16 UTC No. 16336580
>>16336574
The battle between nazi and schizo rages on...
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:39:18 UTC No. 16336582
>>16336577
woah guise this looks real!??
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:41:38 UTC No. 16336585
>>16336582
you gotta go into the rabbit hole, man, there's a lot.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:42:44 UTC No. 16336590
>>16336582
do you not like UFOs or something?
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:15:12 UTC No. 16336632
>>16336574
I am posting in both threads and they're both in my thread watcher.
The proper course of action is to migrate from the more active thread to the less active one, once the more active thread is ready to stage, and then stage off of the second one when it also gets to page 10. Unfortunately I have very little hope that the handful of low-functioning autistic paste-eaters on both sides of this problem can restrain themselves from once again doing something retarded.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:48:37 UTC No. 16336682
>>16336577
lmfao
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 21:12:58 UTC No. 16336722
ISS 2 WHEN???
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 21:36:21 UTC No. 16336737
>>16336632
The other thread is still getting more posts than this one even though it is on autosage and this thread is still bumping.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 21:43:17 UTC No. 16336749
>>16336737
its all me
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 21:57:02 UTC No. 16336771
>>16336737
>autosage
Irrelevant
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:07:36 UTC No. 16336814
>>16336438
>momentum from stored electrical energy in a hermetically sealed reactor, and over time, that created physical momentum is realized as physical force
preposterous
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:56:19 UTC No. 16336895
Electromagnetic spacetime continuum propulsion system for space travel
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:57:21 UTC No. 16336897
Method for creating a rapidly changing energy shell of quantum fluctuations about masses for acceleration without mass ejection
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:29:00 UTC No. 16336945
>>16336231
This one picture shits on all of crewed aerospace. Especially considering there's another dragon currently docked at the ISS. Show the sheer gap between SpaceX and the rest of the market.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:54:32 UTC No. 16336989
>>16334674
>They could return in a cargo dragon
What I had been hearing was that they might return in the cargo "section" of a Dragon, which would be below the four seats.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 00:54:35 UTC No. 16337034
Hello
Pluto orbits with an average orbital velocity of 4.743km/s but it's orbit is highly elliptical, so as it moves from perihelion to aphelion we see orbital velocity range between 6.1kms and 3.6kms
Earth's orbital velocity average is 29.78, orbit is very not eccentric (0.167) and so velocity ranges between 29.29 and 30.29.
So, with pluto having a variation in orbit velocity over twice that of earth as it completes it's orbit, I find myself wondering: if you were somehow able to live 270+ years to experience both periapsis and apoapsis, would you feel any different? It's a huge relative change, 30% of the initial orbital velocity and as I said, over 200% of what we experience on earth
Or am I retard
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:00:03 UTC No. 16337041
>>16337034
There's nothing to feel; the changes in relative momentum are all on the curvature of space-time and do not impart any observable force for an outside observer.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:00:28 UTC No. 16337045
>>16337034
You wouldn't feel anything. The forces flinging Pluto around are acting on you the same way
>if you were somehow able to live 270+ years
Well I guess you'd feel old
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:02:25 UTC No. 16337046
It seems rather counter intuitive to me, hence my am I potato question. At what scale do we stop experiencing acceleration effects? How massive of an object do we need to be on? Or am I being retarded once again
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:10:11 UTC No. 16337053
>>16332789
>0:24 - interview start
>0:25 - "forget the science for a second, let's talk about commercialization"
We're never getting our flying cars are we.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:11:08 UTC No. 16337055
>>16337046
I think the easily way to think about it is just because your accelerating in your orbit relatively, your actual energy state hasn't changed thus you feel no acceleration.
Even gravity assists where you accelerate into higher energy orbits by passing a body is a net zero in energy. The body acts on you but in direct proportion you're acting on the body you are passing by.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:35:48 UTC No. 16337072
>>16336365
I want to see a strongman lift the whole thing
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:36:30 UTC No. 16337073
>>16335007
qrd?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:39:04 UTC No. 16337077
>>16337053
That interviewer was way out of his depth, where did they find that guy jeez
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:58:11 UTC No. 16337094
>>16332789
so from what i've read into this its likely the intense electrical charge interacting with the chamber producing a force. Also the math in the patent is incorrect apparently.
Sad.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 02:13:23 UTC No. 16337110
>>16337073
https://www.vastspace.com/roadmap
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 02:27:02 UTC No. 16337126
>>16337094
oh that's disappointing, I guess the in-space test will deboonk it for good and we can move on
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 07:33:48 UTC No. 16337375
>>16336455
he already burned all bridges
it's all in on red now
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:37:45 UTC No. 16337424
>>16337053
Lol. Yeah they're gonna have to go through some people like thst to secure research funding
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:54:04 UTC No. 16337439
>>16336632
>I have very little hope that the handful of low-functioning autistic paste-eaters on both sides of this problem can restrain themselves from once again doing something retarded.
Be nice if the janitors could do their job
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:04:27 UTC No. 16337446
So is it happening or was it fake? I want to play Star Citizen in real life so bad bros.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:13:35 UTC No. 16337458
>>16337446
>is meme drive happening bros
Until proven, it's absolutely not
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:14:57 UTC No. 16337459
>>16337446
It's always fake and will always be fake until someone comes up with something that does not get energy and momentum for free.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:19:04 UTC No. 16337463
>>16337459
People in the 1800s would have considered nuclear power as energy for free. Who is to say that there isn't a force we aren't aware of that can be tapped? Dark matter is a fucking joke. It's pretty obvious that the standard model is either flat out wrong or missing some huge and really important parts.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:19:24 UTC No. 16337464
>>16337459
It's always fake, but schizos will continue to believe in it and not stop talking about it until it gets properly dis-proven. (and even after that for some schizos)
That satellite dying before they could test it was annoying for those of us who are tired of hearing about it.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:21:49 UTC No. 16337468
>>16337446
Physics is a bitch
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:23:41 UTC No. 16337474
>>16337464
What about plasma magnet drive? Needs no new physics and is also pretty much proven by the way charged particles interact with Jupiter's magnetic field.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:30:43 UTC No. 16337483
>>16337463
If you know where the energy and momentum comes from and it doesn't produce them for free, then it's not a free energy device. If it produces constant velocity for constant energy input, it is a free energy device, which contradicts Noether's Theorem. If it is a constant displacement device, it requires the existence of preferred references frames which would massively contradict General Relativity. If it steals momentum from something else, now we're getting somewhere.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:31:20 UTC No. 16337484
>>16337474
still a meme drive because someone has to build one that works
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:33:33 UTC No. 16337489
>>16337484
Project Orion is a meme drive? Solar moth? Beamed propulsion? No one has built those
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:38:05 UTC No. 16337492
>>16337483
>which would massively contradict General Relativity
You mean the THEORY which has giant fucking holes and doesn't explain very important aspects of the observable universe? The THEORY that has had multiple decades, shitloads of speculative research and umpteen gorillion dollars devoted to finding an imaginary particle with constantly changing properties to try and fit in to make the THEORY work? 0 results for all of this btw.
That's some dogshit science son.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:38:07 UTC No. 16337493
>>16337489
The difference between a laser and a proper Death Ray is that high energy physics starts doing things that ruin your laser before it can ramp to Death Ray level power. Nukes work as advertised. Solar Moth and Beamed Propulsion are memes.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:39:25 UTC No. 16337494
>>16337492
Science pro tip: pointing to stuff that General Relativity can't explain doesn't help your case when you're trying to disprove it about stuff that it explains just fine.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:40:37 UTC No. 16337496
>>16337493
How is solar moth a meme drive? It's just a big parabolic mirror that heats water/propellant. Take your meds boeing executive.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:41:46 UTC No. 16337497
>>16337496
Because your bigass solar mirror needs to be hilariously light to perform as expected and not have focal issues. It's a meme because it can't be built with known technologies and techniques.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:44:28 UTC No. 16337499
>>16337494
If your "universal model" fails to address critical functions of the universe and you need to invent undetectable magic particles (that change their properties every time an experiment fails to detect them) to explain it, there is probably something really badly wrong with your model. This shit is not science, this is wanking over one dudes theory rather than trying to come up with a theory that actually explains the observable functions of matter.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:48:29 UTC No. 16337503
>>16337499
Nobody likes coming up with free parameters to explain the gaps in a model, but the reason why people do it is because nobody has better ideas. Yeah, people have alternate explanations for things that General Relativity gets wrong like Modified Newtonian Dynamics, and yeah it elegantly explains the things Relativity gets wrong. But the problem is, it doesn't explain a whole bunch of the shit relativity gets /right/: it has worse predictive power than Relativity, which means it is at best and rather optimistically, incomplete, and at worst, it's just plain wrong. Until that is sufficiently and thoroughly addressed, Relativity remains the objectively superior model, and the alternatives will remain actually, literally useless.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:50:53 UTC No. 16337505
https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/statu
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:52:23 UTC No. 16337508
>>16337503
Reminder that schizo McCulloughs model is superior to MOND and explains everything up to and including the bullet cluster while also explaining the problems with galactic rotations and mass distribution. This is an experiment that can be performed for a fraction of the endless dark matter hunting to either be disproven or disproven. "Scientists" don't care about science anymore, it's basically all dogma now.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:53:07 UTC No. 16337510
>>16337508
>There is an experiment that can be performed
Then do it; there's a million and one defense contractors who don't get a shit what universities think, they want the next big thing.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:56:51 UTC No. 16337515
>>16337510
>Then do it; there's a million and one defense contractors who don't get a shit what universities think, they want the next big thing.
Point in case that scientists don't care about science. Here is a theory that neatly ties everything up but all these fuckheads are too busy huffing their own farts and circlejerking over dogma to spend comparative pennies to give it a go. Old mate had to beg DARPA and a literal fucking who company to give him a chance. Of course the test bed "failed" so it's likely bullshit but that's nit the point here.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:02:55 UTC No. 16337525
>>16337515
Why not list the experiment? You're doing a lot of complaining about it not being done, which we don't actually know, for reasons seemingly decided on in advance.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:08:32 UTC No. 16337541
>>16337525
Fuck off newfag
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:08:46 UTC No. 16337542
Previous/parallel thread
>>16333883
>>16333883
>>16333883
>>16333883
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:10:55 UTC No. 16337549
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:11:23 UTC No. 16337551
>>16337541
Or you could just list the simple experiment. I was around for those threads too, I just forget what the hell it was because it's been something like a year.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:11:57 UTC No. 16337554
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:14:31 UTC No. 16337557
>>16337554
>posting this in the schizophrenia thread
brave
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:17:02 UTC No. 16337562
>>16337551
Reps newfag
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:18:40 UTC No. 16337565
>>16337562
You started panic flailing as soon as someone who engaged with the premise asked for a single detail.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:20:05 UTC No. 16337568
>>16337565
>redditor seething about gatekeepers
Like clockwork
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:23:58 UTC No. 16337578
>>16337570
>the slight pan up expecting the vertical launch before dropping back down to the rocket power slide
Pure kino, love this one
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:45:36 UTC No. 16337613
>>16337565
Just don't engage with schizos lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:54:34 UTC No. 16337621
>dark matter bad!
Remember that physicists have 90 years of researching neutrinos that hardly ineract with anything at all. A new particle that is even more elusive is the conservative approach to astrophysical enigmas we've observed. It may not ultimately prove to be the case but the idea doesn't come from nowhere.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:57:45 UTC No. 16337628
>>16337561
starshield when
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:08:21 UTC No. 16337639
>>16337628
>read starshield wikipedia page
>it's talked about as everything from normal starlink internet except exclusive to the military, to real-time surveillance spy satellites, to missile warning and tracking, to straight up being brilliant pebbles
wtf
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:37:17 UTC No. 16337679
>>16336558
>That the very idea of using ICEs in space applications is not entirely absurd is proven by the recent decision by ULA to incorporate an ICE into the latest version of their venerable Centaur 3rd stage.
>It is an inline 6-cylinder design inspired by the classic V-8 engines built by Ford during the 1930s.
>rotary power will drive an electrical generator and rocket propellant pumps
>“waste” heat will be used to help pressurize the LH2/LO2 propellant tanks
>the engine exhaust will exit a low pressure, axial thruster to settle the propellant tanks.
>Fuel for the ICE will come from GH2/GO2 boiloff.
wtf this is nuts. Why doesn't ULA do groundbreaking/experimental shit like this anymore?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:42:16 UTC No. 16337688
>>16337497
It doesn't need to be especially light, at all. It's meant to be used on low TWR spacecraft, kinda like a NERVA competitor.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:43:43 UTC No. 16337691
>>16337459
https://youtu.be/9JSpvCZeb6M&t=53m3
Looks like they stumbled across zero point energy recently. They gon get suicided
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:49:44 UTC No. 16337697
>>16337483
>If it steals momentum from something else, now we're getting somewhere
That's precisely what he says is going on. This link here above details that briefly
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:58:24 UTC No. 16337704
I hope whichever anon has been grouching about the political OPs sees the schizophrenia going on right now and regrets it
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:02:16 UTC No. 16337713
>>16337691
This shit is retarded. If you have proof of a genuine free energy energy device, they are going to kill you, period. All you can do is unload your device schematics to every single youtuber, university, engineering company, file upload site, etc... and hope that it gets through.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:10:52 UTC No. 16337724
>>16336957
Thats my birthday!
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:14:14 UTC No. 16337731
Stephen Wolfram has some thoughts on ftl within his new paradigm
https://writings.stephenwolfram.com
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:15:40 UTC No. 16337733
>>16337713
That makes sense, assuming you don't care about money
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:33:04 UTC No. 16337747
>>16337715
blue origin? more like blown the fuck out
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:01:37 UTC No. 16337779
>>16337763
>man has zero body hair
hmmmmm
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:03:16 UTC No. 16337781
>>16337763
nice ass
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:04:23 UTC No. 16337783
>>16337763
Why do they look like they stopped during their daily jogging routine?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:09:35 UTC No. 16337789
>>16337783
because that is exactly what they did
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:11:03 UTC No. 16337792
Finally a MILF is going to space
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:15:04 UTC No. 16337798
>>16337779
Probably for competitive swimming or something.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:22:37 UTC No. 16337804
>>16337798
Its for sex preversions and everyone knows it
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:24:17 UTC No. 16337807
>>16337806
2 weeks?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:24:37 UTC No. 16337808
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:36:36 UTC No. 16337824
>>16337763
SEXOOOOOO
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:39:27 UTC No. 16337829
>>16337718
>Jeff getting scammed by oldspace to build a closed testing environment
this keeps getting funnier
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:50:05 UTC No. 16337849
>Kowsky-Frost Anti-Gravity Quartz Experiment - 1927
https://www.theorionproject.org/en/
>Levitating Quartz Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyb
>Thomas Townsend Brown - Early Anti-Gravity Research
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoma
>History of Anti-Gravity & Trans-Dimensional Physics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taW
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:52:23 UTC No. 16337855
>>16337483
>it requires the existence of preferred references frames which would massively contradict General Relativity
This wouldn't particularly be a bad thing. GR doesn't break if there's a preferred frame, it just becomes incomplete
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:02:36 UTC No. 16337871
>>16337833
I think its about team work and team building mostly, maybe getting used to high pressure situations
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:04:12 UTC No. 16337875
>>16337833
Jared Isaacman likes doing cool things.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:05:15 UTC No. 16337877
>>16337833
Spaceplane training
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:14:07 UTC No. 16337887
>>16337833
Who cares how? Fighters jets are cool.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:19:48 UTC No. 16337891
>>16337833
Space belongs to chair force forever.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:23:18 UTC No. 16337895
>>16332789
/sfg/bros, can anyone explain the current viability of the skyhook concept? I haven't really heard much about it unlike space elevators (which I understand are not feasible for material science reasons and needing a sizeable space industrial base to construct to begin with)
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:41:48 UTC No. 16337918
Can't wait until Starship reaches Mars and the billion dollar rover meme dies
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:43:09 UTC No. 16337920
>>16337895
It's a meme.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:55:59 UTC No. 16337929
>>16337918
MSR....
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:00:36 UTC No. 16337932
>>16337895
It is viable and you can make it with current materials. But it would now involve the skyhook scything through the orbits occupied by satellite mega constellations so it won't be built
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:19:02 UTC No. 16337957
>>16337833
G-force training? It's more interesting than just sitting in one of those spinning things.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:26:28 UTC No. 16337968
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:31:26 UTC No. 16337976
>>16337895
For Earth they suck for the same reason all tether based systems suck here, gravity is too strong & required velocities are too fast.
Skyhooks are a replacement for reusable boosters, except they're more complex, present a single point of failure that can cripple your launch industry, and are harder to use than reusable boosters.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:32:26 UTC No. 16337978
>>16337918
Same, and same goes for orbiters and landers.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:34:34 UTC No. 16337982
>>16337976
>Skyhooks are a replacement for reusable boosters
Aren’t they the oposite? They still require you to get up into the upper atmosphere to hook on. If anything they’re a replacement for reusable second stages. Cutting out the middle man between booster and kick stage.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:36:14 UTC No. 16337986
>>16337918
What the fuck else would JPL even do? They don't do any mass production. Would they just make another mass optimized rover the size of a building? They either will need to change course completely or adapt in an absurd way to justify their existence
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:39:48 UTC No. 16337995
>>16337986
Moxie was cool. Ginny was cool. Maybe they can keep making one off tech demonstrators to throw on other people’s missions.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:55:50 UTC No. 16338016
>>16337968
I was wondering wtf that shape was in the previous blurry photos.
This belongs on the booster, not the ship.
Make it huge on the booster, like B.O.'s stupid feather, but 1000X cooler
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:15:00 UTC No. 16338032
>>16337763
...where's her ass?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:19:19 UTC No. 16338037
>220,000–330,000 lb
What's the use case?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:19:31 UTC No. 16338038
>>16333901
i hate the media so much. why cant they celebrate the revival of the space age? why do they always try and ruin everything good in the world?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:26:23 UTC No. 16338048
>>16338032
Negrolatrous zoomers are not welcome here
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:26:26 UTC No. 16338049
>>16338037
Your mom to orbit
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:31:25 UTC No. 16338053
>>16338037
Use the vehicle to build a satellite constellation to pay to use the vehicle for Mars colonization
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:41:53 UTC No. 16338065
>>16337895
you're gonna trigger that autist
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:50:28 UTC No. 16338082
>>16337459
>something that does not get energy and momentum for free.
>for free
This is my rudimentary understanding of it by piecing things together but it seems that these asymmetric capacitor thrusters seem to take it out of the quantum vacuum
https://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot
>There will be then a quantum void between the plates that will pull the electrons out of the cathode faster than expected and this will add momentum to the system which will thrust towards the anode. A thrust from 'nothing'.
So it's not "nothing" but the quantum field which we know isn't empty but more dense than expected
https://www.quantamagazine.org/wani
>The quantum fields that permeate space fluctuate in strength, never staying exactly at zero; particles continually spring into existence and disappear just as quickly. These quantum fluctuations should contribute to the energy of ambient space. But when physicists do the math, they find that the effect could be as much as 10^120 times bigger than the observed abundance of dark energy.
Hence why these could be considered quantum void thrusters
So the physicists can bitch and moan all they want but it seems like the energy available from the quantum void is effectively infinite from our perspective and they've found a method and device to tap into and extract energy from this quantum well so to speak.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:53:33 UTC No. 16338087
>>16338082
>quantum vacuum
>quantum void
>quantum field
>quantum well
goddd that's the most quantum babble I've ever written, I think some of these are redundant and I'm still skeptical but yeah we'll see
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:03:02 UTC No. 16338105
>>16337525
>>16337510
The one you're thinking of is the IVO quantum drive that launched on Transporter 9, failed due to satellite bus allegedly
Same company is working on a repeat drive, then there's Exodus working on their own similar attempt for even longer than IVO and iirc they've got in-space experiments in the planning stage
So if all of these fail we'll know its all BS and can move on
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:03:21 UTC No. 16338107
>>16338100
>used SLS picture in article about challenging Falcon 9
The hate is still not nearly enough.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:03:25 UTC No. 16338108
>>16338100
>Currently operational heavy-lift rockets
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:04:17 UTC No. 16338111
>>16338100
>SLS in the heavy lift category
Is the Mega Moon rocket really so weak?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:05:30 UTC No. 16338114
>>16337463
>It's pretty obvious that the standard model is either flat out wrong or missing some huge and really important parts.
Neither QM nor GR are flat out wrong, just like Newtonian physics aren't flat out wrong. All of them were the best at predicting behavior of things before a better theory was invented/discovered. But otherwise, I agree.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:05:41 UTC No. 16338115
>>16338100
> Challengers
> SLS and Ariane 6
Yeah, bet Elon stays awake nights worried about them.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:06:44 UTC No. 16338117
>>16338108
>The rocket race is far from decided. Take a look at the next generation of launch vehicles that will make their debut over the next few years.
lmaoooo, I think these people might actually believe this? or is it just EDS
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:07:09 UTC No. 16338118
>>16337094
>its likely the intense electrical charge interacting with the chamber producing a force.
But the force stops as soon as the capacitor plates are space enough mm apart to stop producing it, so that explanation doesn't make sense
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:09:53 UTC No. 16338124
new /sfg/
>>16338089
>>16338089
>>16338089
>>16338089
>>16338089
>>16338089
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:10:23 UTC No. 16338125
>>16338124
We're on Page 6
delete that thread, retard
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:10:29 UTC No. 16338126
>>16338124
>page 6
Fuck off
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:11:27 UTC No. 16338128
>>16338124
kys
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:13:24 UTC No. 16338135
>>16338124
based
fuck this shitty schizo thread kill it asap
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:13:54 UTC No. 16338138
>>16338124
newfag
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:14:23 UTC No. 16338139
>>16338124
fucking newfag retards always thinking they're saving the world by making a new thread
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:17:43 UTC No. 16338153
>>16338082
So does it conserve energy or not? I'm not talking about conserving momentum, just the overall energy.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:20:50 UTC No. 16338162
>>16338153
I think its drawing energy from the quantum vacuum (via the Casimir effect), which is insanely energy dense beyond the expected calculations of theoretical physicists see:
https://www.vlatkovedral.com/the-wo
>However, if we calculate the quantum vacuum energy of the universe it turns out to be 120 orders of magnitude bigger. Hence: the worst prediction in the whole of physics.
Is it so hard to conceive of the possibility that we might have found a way to tap into and exploit the near-infinite energy out of the quantum vacuum and use it for momentum/power?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:21:12 UTC No. 16338163
>>16338149
retards gonna tard
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:22:02 UTC No. 16338164
>>16338149
Kolodny be like:
>lemme write that down and make an article about it haha Musk is finished now!
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:24:25 UTC No. 16338168
>>16338149
Who?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:27:42 UTC No. 16338174
>>16338168
a source CNBC uses in its reporting often
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:28:54 UTC No. 16338176
>>16338174
Definitely not Sheetz, he has integrity at least and not an EDS agenda
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:43:02 UTC No. 16338212
>>16338162
>Is it so hard to conceive of the possibility that we might have found a way to tap into and exploit the near-infinite energy out of the quantum vacuum and use it for momentum/power?
No, several sci-fi writers have done so (but I don't really read, so the only example I can think of is vanometric power from Rimworld). But I need peer reviewed papers and repeatable experimental evidence.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:00:42 UTC No. 16338237
>>16336310
That's the Kymeta OneWeb terminal. They're using both.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:20:45 UTC No. 16338277
>>16338253
Yes, next video.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:22:55 UTC No. 16338280
>>16338253
ariane 6 depending on who "we" are
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:25:11 UTC No. 16338285
https://x.com/Jordan_W_Taylor/statu
The Martian Industrial War Machine will be powered by CO2
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:26:12 UTC No. 16338286
>>16338253
NSF running out of ideas, most boring video they've made
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:33:25 UTC No. 16338297
>>16337982
No, the vehicle a skyhook would swing up into orbit would much more closely align to the design requirements of an upper stage than a booster. They'd need to handle coasting in space, manage radiating waste heat, deal with high atmospheric heating, carry a bunch of propellant for maneuvering once in orbit, etc. Meanwhile a reusable rocket stage can optimize for spaceflight instead of needing to take off from the ground, and a reusable booster can be developed and built for much lower cost (and in my opinion lower operating costs as well).
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:35:20 UTC No. 16338302
>>16337986
Ideally they'll fucking die at the hands of a much more efficient company with a better design philosophy than "make everything, even the wheels, ultra high performance cutting edge tech".
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:42:22 UTC No. 16338310
>>16338032
in my mouth
>>16338198
>reaction between lunar regolith and endogenous hydrogen
>endogenous hydrogen
so this thing is supplying hydrogen and reacting it with oxygen pulled from regolith to make water? or what?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:44:36 UTC No. 16338313
>>16338285
CO2 as a working fluid still needs either a solar or nuclear heat source to generate power.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:47:59 UTC No. 16338315
>>16338174
wait, what? I thought ESGhound was just a meme, do they take him seriously? lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:49:22 UTC No. 16338316
>>16338315
yes the following article uses ESG hound as a source and I don't think its the first time
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/12/spa
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:52:46 UTC No. 16338318
>>16338315
He is actually an expert in his field. Unfortunately his field is digging through environmental legislation.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:57:22 UTC No. 16338322
>>16338321
https://www.reflectorbital.com/ener
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:58:43 UTC No. 16338325
>>16338322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hU
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:10:31 UTC No. 16338341
>>16338321
>>16338322
>>16338325
This is so fucking stupid man. Some napkin math assuming ideal everything shows that it's like 5x more expensive per watt than building another solar array. Factor in realistic reflectivity, percentage of mass actually devoted to the mirror and not the controls and structure, atmospheric losses, utilization, bleh. Terrible. This shouldn't have made it past the first discussion about it. If you're selling an actual commodity like electricity then you need to be cheaper or it doesn't work. I'm pretty sure I did the math and it actually works the opposite way, you can make money by beaming Earth power to space despite losses because of the cost per watt on Earth vs space.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:20:26 UTC No. 16338353
>>16338341
>I'm pretty sure I did the math and it actually works the opposite way, you can make money by beaming Earth power to space despite losses because of the cost per watt on Earth vs space.
handmer talks about that constantly
not really sure what kind of napkin math these guys were using but I kind of doubt its just for more baseload solar, has to be more expensive (i.e. replacing batteries as you can do solar at night, so it would cost more than just basic baseload solar amortized over the day + batteries)
hard to say if it works out in that case either though
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:45:00 UTC No. 16338383
>>16338353
I'd bet they're expecting to replace peaker plants or something, reflecting during the evening at the peak of the duck curve where electricity is most expensive.
This has all the marks of being a great pitch for a guy that knows business but not physics. Increase utilization of established infrastructure, serve the market at peak prices.
Unfortunately it will never be cheap enough to be competitive.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:47:02 UTC No. 16338385
>>16338135
tsmt
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:50:14 UTC No. 16338391
>>>/pol/479213875
Hey now this looks familiar...
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:57:26 UTC No. 16338399
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:57:28 UTC No. 16338400
>>16338397
>we will announce that we will announce our decision on starliner shortly after the election
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:20:50 UTC No. 16338425
>>16338321
>>16338322
There's something extremely evil about this that I can't put my finger on, the people who support this idea should be entombed underground to protect the rest of us.
I get vague notions about normies hating the light pollution caused by this so much that, in typical normie fashion, they blame all of spaceflight, and as a result some commies in government sieze the opportunity to ban industrialization of space or something horrifying like that
Space activity should remain as invisible to the normie as possible until such time that space activity is self sustaining & normies cannot stop it anymore.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:27:30 UTC No. 16338436
>catalog
>2 /sfg/ threads
Mods, the fuck?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:28:58 UTC No. 16338441
>>16338436
we've had multi-sfgs off and on for months now. used to be the mods were good about keeping it to 1 only
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:33:11 UTC No. 16338451
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:33:30 UTC No. 16338453
>>16338425
Only backyard wanna be astronomers care about light pollution. The environmentalists and commies are already against US spaceflight so nothing changed. I can see it being useful in disaster response where continuous daylight may help search and rescue.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:33:33 UTC No. 16338454
>>16338322
>>16338321
>VC with a braindead idea masquerading as new space
It's such an obvious grift
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:39:38 UTC No. 16338464
>>16338436
>>16338441
I'm pissed at the anons who cannot behave & make early threads
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:41:27 UTC No. 16338465
https://www.youtube.com/live/imizYK
casey dryer is a huge fag
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:42:22 UTC No. 16338466
>>16338453
There's a difference between a soft indirect airglow from thousands of street lights & buildings vs a harsh light in the sky hundreds of times brighter than the full Moon glaring down on people's housesat night.
The glare is obvious but the additional heat may be what puts it over the edge for people, especially in already warm climates. I already want to murder my neighbor because of his bright ass outdoor light.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:47:12 UTC No. 16338469
>>16338162
All of these schemes are fundamentally non-conserving because their theory of operation continuously imparts momentum-energy at a constant rate. Kinetic energy increases with the square of velocity, and any momentum extraction regime that doesn't involve equal costs elsewhere in the system means energy is created from nothing.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:55:48 UTC No. 16338476
>>16338391
Whoever told /pol/ about /sfg/ was a fucking retard
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:01:46 UTC No. 16338485
>>16337833
astronauts do fighter jet training
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:03:07 UTC No. 16338489
>>16338487
https://x.com/Yrouel86/status/18267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBu
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:03:17 UTC No. 16338490
>>16338321
fucks like this got vc funding but not me lol
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:04:08 UTC No. 16338493
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:05:24 UTC No. 16338496
>>16338489
fuck
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:09:08 UTC No. 16338502
>>16338487
>>16338489
>>16338490
>>16338493
>>16338496
With allies like that in public office, its no wonder that Boeing is the way it is. Shelby's retirement seems more conspicuously scheduled now too: he left just before all the shit hit the fan with Boeing.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:12:56 UTC No. 16338509
>>16338487
>orion on falcon heavy
orion is the problem at this point, not sls
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:22:05 UTC No. 16338523
>>16338509
The price tag of SLS is a huge problem in and of itself; also call me a a hater (I am) but one launch doesn’t mean the good ol’ Boeing rot isn’t deep within this rocket somewhere. Shuttle,as an example, exploded on its 25th flight and that’s back when oldspace had GOOD engineers
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:23:58 UTC No. 16338527
Man I'm sure glad there's no one associated with Boeing at the top of NASA leadership now
oh wait
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:25:34 UTC No. 16338532
>>16338487
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
LMAO
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:26:30 UTC No. 16338533
>>16338523
SLS is at least functional, unlike Orion which is about to be delayed to 2027
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:27:40 UTC No. 16338536
>>16338532
>More in Reentry
Never change
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:28:18 UTC No. 16338537
>>16338487
>Shelby
I thought that human roadblock to space had fucking retired, what's he still doing here?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:30:57 UTC No. 16338542
>>16338537
this is about historical stuff, not current
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:31:08 UTC No. 16338543
>>16338509
>orion is the problem at this point, not sls
Both are a problem, you should know this anon
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:34:33 UTC No. 16338544
>>16338537
The man may be retired, but the dream lives on.
No fuel depots in space!!!!
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:34:54 UTC No. 16338545
>>16338532
Top kek
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:42:47 UTC No. 16338555
>>16338542
Oh oh oh, my bad
>>16338544
I want the first one to be named the Richard Shelby Memorial Orbital Fuel Depot
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:45:54 UTC No. 16338558
>RFA Identifies Turbopump as the Cause for RFA ONE Test Failure
>In an update on LinkedIn on 22 August, RFA COO Dr. Stefan Brieschenk announced that the company had completed an initial internal review. In what Dr. Brieschenk describes as “very preliminary” findings, he explains that the company has identified an “oxygen fire in one of the turbopumps” as the root cause of the incident.
>“That engine and that turbopump have run before without issues, wrote Dr. Brieschenk. “Eight engines ignited. We had multiple back-up and safety systems in place that were supposed to shut everything down – but things did not align on Monday as planned.”
https://europeanspaceflight.com/rfa
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:49:37 UTC No. 16338562
>still no berger article comparing trump and kamala's space policies
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:53:40 UTC No. 16338570
>>16338566
Zing!
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:54:09 UTC No. 16338571
>>16338569
https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:55:11 UTC No. 16338574
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Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 21:57:15 UTC No. 16338576
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Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:01:56 UTC No. 16338583
>>16338575
another one ripe for the
>pathetic
edits
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:18:04 UTC No. 16338614
For reference
>>16338089
>>16338089
>>16338089
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:21:04 UTC No. 16338621
>>16338490
What was the idea?
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:26:05 UTC No. 16338630
>>16338621
medical devices
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:32:30 UTC No. 16338639
>>16338630
Don't want to get too specific? I get it.
Baiting VC isn't about good ideas though, and you shouldn't mistake people that have a lot of money for being smart. Space is hot right now and the idea makes good business sense if you don't have the real numbers like I said here >>16338383, so they got a ton of money for a fundamentally retarded idea. Seriously though look through the dumbest startups you can find, and look through their investors' twitter or whatever they have. Unbelievable how dumb a multimillionaire can be
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:35:15 UTC No. 16338642
>>16338566
lel
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:38:44 UTC No. 16338648
icymi https://neuralink.com/blog/prime-st
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:39:39 UTC No. 16338650
>>16338639
well its in the same industry as neuralink, except my idea is more like the software that works with their hardware
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:40:54 UTC No. 16338651
Does Jeff Who have fake muscles (like implants)? Just saw his arms on estronaut's interview and they have weird flaps at the inside of his elbows
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:45:00 UTC No. 16338658
>>16338651
Hormones and roids. Artificial gains.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 23:21:56 UTC No. 16338698
>>16338648
not spaceflight
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 23:44:52 UTC No. 16338707
>janny cleans up /sci/
>leaves both /sfg/s up
thank you janny
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 23:44:53 UTC No. 16338708
>>16338698
>/sfg/ - Elon Musk general
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Aug 2024 23:56:36 UTC No. 16338720
>>16338708
Sometimes we talk about Astra.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:23:31 UTC No. 16338746
Sometimes we do, anyway.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:55:03 UTC No. 16338773
>>16338569
>>16338571
Lmao he's actually legitimately paid off by SpaceX isn't he? Fucking kek
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:59:59 UTC No. 16338777
>>16338773
>Said the shill
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 01:06:35 UTC No. 16338786
>>16338532
>Shelby on a jet ski
/sfg/ before /sfg/
(also requesting if anyone has it)
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 02:23:02 UTC No. 16338855
>>16338777
trips confirm
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 06:56:24 UTC No. 16339081
>>16337554
>ohhh this looks interesting
>>16337549
>it's a fucking Wheatstone bridge
yawn
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 07:24:39 UTC No. 16339094
https://spacenews.com/nasa-adds-thr
>NASA announced Aug. 22 that it selected Arrow Science and Technology, Impulse Space and Momentus Space for its Venture-Class Acquisition of Dedicated and Rideshare (VADR) contract. That selection allows them to compete for task orders for launching specific missions, typically small satellites willing to accept higher levels of risk in exchange for lower launch costs.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 07:28:27 UTC No. 16339096
>>16339094
>A NASA fact sheet about VADR, though, continues to emphasize the use of small launch vehicles. That fact sheet, linked to in the NASA press release about the addition of the three companies to the contract, listed five examples of venture-class launch vehicles available for such missions. Three of the five — Astra Space’s Rocket 3, Relativity Space’s Terran 1 and Virgin Orbit’s LauncherOne — are no longer in service, and Virgin Orbit itself went bankrupt in 2023.
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/upl
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 07:30:13 UTC No. 16339100
>>16339096
the document is from May 2021
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:56:27 UTC No. 16339142
>>16338476
it goes without saying that they're retarded if they post on /pol/
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:58:01 UTC No. 16339143
>>16338082
>quantum
Stopped reading there.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:59:06 UTC No. 16339145
>>16338562
An article that says neither of them really care about space wouldn't be very interesting.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:44:30 UTC No. 16339164
>>16339163
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:45:33 UTC No. 16339165
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:46:34 UTC No. 16339166
>>16339163
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:47:35 UTC No. 16339167
>>16339166
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:48:36 UTC No. 16339168
>>16339167
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/18267760
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:03:44 UTC No. 16339179
>>16339164
>we won't be free floating
Pfffft. So they are just dicking around the capsule exit port on some monkey bars? Hardly an EVA, mega gay. My excitement for this mission has gone to 0. Oh well at least spacex makes some fiat buxx.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:06:15 UTC No. 16339181
>>16339179
they are testing all the most difficult and important parts with this but making it safe by staying behind the capsule with respect to micrometeroids
what difference would free floating make?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:06:48 UTC No. 16339185
>>16339179
Polaris 2 2026 screencap this
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:09:37 UTC No. 16339188
>>16339181
>with respect to micrometeroids
NASA tier safety complaint
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:10:59 UTC No. 16339189
>>16339188
not really
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:12:55 UTC No. 16339192
>>16339189
Yes really
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:14:33 UTC No. 16339194
>>16339192
you don't think micrometeroids are real? are you retarded?
why take unneccessary risks that don't advance the tech in any way?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:30:13 UTC No. 16339206
>>16339194
Micrometeors are so rare as to be basically non-existent for a few day mission duration. The ones that do exist are typically fast enough that they will punch straight through the capsule or not quite punch through and create a whole cone of spalling metals.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:35:46 UTC No. 16339207
>>16339194
OK cool no more EVAs forever then by this logic
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:41:50 UTC No. 16339209
>>16339206
wrong on both accounts, they are quite common and generally not bad enough to "punch through" dragon
its completely pointless to take extra risks if you aren't going to learn anything substantial from it
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/202
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:44:02 UTC No. 16339213
>>16339207
do you jump out of the window when you have to go to the store? you aren't going to break your ankles every time so why not
I'm talking about unncesessary risk, Polaris 2 might very well have a free floating EVA helped by this exact flight by characterizing how much MMOD they need and so on
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:46:21 UTC No. 16339216
>>16339207
Ideally yeah. What do you need them for?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:54:47 UTC No. 16339231
>>16339209
Eyeballing that chart, something like 0.02/hr with a maximum depth of maybe 2mm over the large surface area of a dragon capsule. Wow that sure looks like an absolute nothingburger.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:59:26 UTC No. 16339236
>>16339231
The spacewalk is going to happen at 435 miles instead of 250miles the ISS is at and the spacesuits don't have the same shielding as the dragon
so again, you are fucking wrong and retarded, the altitude might affect the characteristics of the micrometeroids and the suits themselves are going to be more suspectible to micrometeroids than the outer shell of dragon and not only that, its going to be much more critical
as I said fro the start, completely unnecessary risk
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:09:04 UTC No. 16339248
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:10:00 UTC No. 16339249
>>16339236
>The spacewalk is going to happen at 435 miles instead of 250miles the ISS is at
And?
>the spacesuits don't have the same shielding as the dragon
A sub 2mm penetration of soft ass aluminum is not going to penetrate the thick ass layers of a space suit, maybe at worst would need a piece of duct tape to cover the tiny hole and a plaster to cover the booboo.
>the altitude might affect the characteristics of the micrometeroids
How? This is all relative to the velocity of the astronaut. Unfounded speculation.
>as I said fro the start, completely unnecessary risk
OK, no more spacewalks then, 1 micrometeor every ~500 hours with a 2mm penetration depth is too scary I guess. Should probably just stay here and fix our problems here on earth.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:13:47 UTC No. 16339251
>>16339249
>Unfounded speculation.
exactly, that is why it doesn't make sense to take unnecessary risks
by taking Dragon there and returning it, they will be able to study the environment at those altitudes
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:17:10 UTC No. 16339256
>>16339251
Cool NASA post. In fact I'll give this a post-apollo NASA stamp since no Apollo astronauts would have given a shit about a 400 vs 200km orbit when the negligible strike rate of a nothingburger at 200km is once every ~500 hours over the surface area of an entire capsule.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:20:15 UTC No. 16339262
>>16339256
what would they learn by making the umbicilical longer exactly? you haven't answered that
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:24:09 UTC No. 16339270
>>16339262
>what would they learn
This is a richfag circlejerk space tourism session with a veneer of science to make them not seem like rich douchebags.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:27:02 UTC No. 16339278
>>16339270
ah, of course
there you go, though your r*ddit spacing >>16339249 did already give hints about your underlying thoughts
and once again you didn't answer the actual question
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:33:09 UTC No. 16339291
>>16339278
Responding to different points is not reddit spacing and you should kill yourself. You also didn't respond to my reddit spaced points so I'll wait for you to do so first.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:48:34 UTC No. 16339320
>>16339291
I did respond, from the start my point has been that doing a free falling spacewalk would present unnecessary and unknown risks which you are basically confirming in your posts
you just don't seem to care about these risks and that SpaceX and the astronauts should just do it anyway, even if you can't present any good reason to do so
you just started screeching about richfags all of a sudden lmaoo
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:00:39 UTC No. 16339388
>>16339386
What happened to Kuiper? They did that prototype launch and nothing since then.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:01:51 UTC No. 16339389
>>16339386
does he know for sure? could those be prototype kuiper antennas?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:03:50 UTC No. 16339392
>>16339388
Wasn't ULA supposed to launch some Kuiper test sats for the second Vulcan flight, but they won't be ready, so they have to use a mass simulator instead?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:04:22 UTC No. 16339394
>>16339388
I guess its still progressing, saw some article yesterday about Amazon expanding a Kuiper factory but didn't read it thoroughly
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:04:42 UTC No. 16339395
>>16339392
Second Vulcan flight was supposed to launch Dreamchaser.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:06:18 UTC No. 16339397
>>16339392
kuiper has 2 prototype satellites, but I guess not
would be weird to install them on your freetime yacht just for some very intermittent testing, especially two antennas
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:07:31 UTC No. 16339398
>>16339389
kuiper has like 2 prototype satellites in orbit, but I guess not
would be weird to install them on your yacht just for some very intermittent testing, especially two antennas
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:37:58 UTC No. 16339435
>>16339428
that's how you know she's lying
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:42:48 UTC No. 16339447
>>16339388
one launch scheduled for an atlas V later this year
one launch scheduled for new glenn later this year (lol)
two launches scheduled for RS1s later this year (lol?)
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:51:11 UTC No. 16339468
>>16339395
thanks, it's been a while
Dreamchaser being late is more annoying
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 14:26:45 UTC No. 16339522
>>16338310
Right, and the easiest way to transport Hydrogen is water
You ship water to the moon, electrolyse it to recover hydrogen. Then react the hydrogen with lunar oxygen, and bingo - you have water
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:29:27 UTC No. 16339654
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:42:07 UTC No. 16339682
>>16339143
>>16338087
You think I didn't notice? I'm aware
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 18:57:27 UTC No. 16339862
>>16337639
So?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 21:16:44 UTC No. 16340086
>>16336308
>>16336310
great!! now the russian asset can track all the usn ships in real time.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 22:37:06 UTC No. 16340172
>>16340086
It’s not a russian asset lol, you’re retarded
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Aug 2024 23:26:26 UTC No. 16340229
RFA:
>We are quite confident that this is not related to the design
LMAO how? How do you light your turbopump on fire without a design failure?
I think they did that shit on purpose. They were forced by their owners to push for an unrealistic launch date.
They realized it was gonna be a shitshow unsuccessful flight then and destroyed the vehicle to get more time and roll the improvements they want into the second one.