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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16354105

droneship landing - edition

previous >>16351311

Anonymous No. 16354115

so is the future plan to put pez arms on a droneship to catch starships?

Anonymous No. 16354117

>>16354115
The plan is to dredge a pond at Boca Chica for a barge to float in so Superheavy can land on it

Anonymous No. 16354118

>>16354105
All Hail 1062-sama. It's too bad he didn't stick the landing.

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Anonymous No. 16354120

Reminder that the FAA will cockblock starship to the point that starship will never be allowed to carry humans to space from US soil.

Anonymous No. 16354121

>>16354115
it takes a few days to move a droneship out to sea and back. If starship ever wants to be a 24 hour cadence, then you don't want to be limited by droneship speed

Anonymous No. 16354122

So if BO manages to pull off Escapade (escaPADE? ESCAPADE?) including a successful landing of GS1 do >we tip our hat? Or is Blue Origin irredeemably gay?
I say the latter but I know there will be anons who will say
>finally we have a competitor good for jeff I like blue origin now
But the record needs to be set now, I think. Don’t root for those losers, ever

Anonymous No. 16354123

>>16354121
just buy more droneships

Anonymous No. 16354124

>>16354121
am I missing something here? just have a bunch more and rotate them

Anonymous No. 16354127

>>16354123
Whatever happend to the oil rigs spaceX had?

Anonymous No. 16354129

>>16354115
Starship will always return to landing site

Anonymous No. 16354130

>>16354122
new glenn hasn't even flown yet and I already say finally we have a competitor good for jeff I like blue origin now

Anonymous No. 16354133

>>16354121
do they have to be so far out? or is the idea that they save some fuel by not having the booster fly back so far?

Anonymous No. 16354134

>>16354129
its a big guy. would need yooge dron

Anonymous No. 16354138

>>16354133
They just continue ballistic arc after stage separation

Anonymous No. 16354143

I think 90+% of the criticism of SpaceX is motivated purely by butthurt over Elon's politics because leftists can't compartmentalize objectively and have no impulse control.

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Anonymous No. 16354144

>>16354118
rockets are female

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Anonymous No. 16354145

>>16354120
Reminder that the FAA is just a building full of soft squishy people who think they have authority and will sacrifice the future just to feel in control.

Anonymous No. 16354146

>>16354120
>jUsT sTaRt YoUr OwN sPaCe CoMpAnY

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Anonymous No. 16354149

>>16354144
should be doing the yamcha pose

Anonymous No. 16354153

>>16354143
sure but that's just normal for people who are politicsbrained. tesla during the obama years had a lot of schizo anti EV stuff mainly because cuckservatives saw tesla winning as something that would benefit obama politically. I guess all the various forms of EDS is just mostly downstream from how fucked social media/corporate journalism/leftist branches in universities has ruined the populace in regards to politics

Anonymous No. 16354157

>>16354138
yeah ok that makes sense, thanks. i wasn't sure how far out they were floated.

>>16354144
not to me, but im not going to seek any widespread adoption of my outlook on the matter. But if Flapsama was a sama, then so can be Booster.

Anonymous No. 16354168

>>16354157
hmm, seems i didn't know that sama is gender neutral. learn something every day

Anonymous No. 16354170

>Apparently the Stargate building is going to come down once the office building is up, with plans for another mega bay there. High bay will also be replaced with a megabay once they're able to.
real?

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Anonymous No. 16354173

>MJ died too early to moonwalk on the moon
It's over.

Anonymous No. 16354175

Holy fucking kinomatography
WEBM anon your help is required
https://x.com/enneps/status/1829854470886625561

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>>16354175

Anonymous No. 16354180

>>16354146
b2reddit with your shit meme.

Anonymous No. 16354181

>>16354175
>>16354178
I don't think this is safe

Anonymous No. 16354183

>>16354120
>The FAA will block literally everything like the underpaid and unsupervised staff at the DMV
Always has been. The only reliable thing the FAA does is reveal the identity of whistleblowers to Boeing assassins.

Anonymous No. 16354186

>the F9 was grounded as an act of sabotage against SpaceX by the nefarious FAA!!!!!!!1
>it's back up in a few days
k

Anonymous No. 16354187

>>16354183
I want to call out the anon who years ago called me retard here on /sfg/ for saying FAA was protecting boeing and trying to destroy airbus.
I wonder what he thinks about the FAA now?

Anonymous No. 16354188

>>16354186
Few days too many.

Anonymous No. 16354189

>>16354122
I hate BO for the "welcome to the club" and try to patent landing on a droneship, so I will continue to hate them.

Anonymous No. 16354193

>>16354181
That's what lightning rods are for.

Anonymous No. 16354196

>>16354120
Space Force will overrule them for military starships

Anonymous No. 16354200

>>16354189
Dont forget all the bullshit lawsuits, over HLS and numerous other things, usually focused primarily on stopping SpaceX.
They even patented the stupidest idea for a "reusable" booster, just put a thermite welding charge in each foot and weld it to the fucking ship deck to "stick" the landing.
If BO is to redeem themselves whatsoever, its going to take 5+ years or longer of continually exceeding expectations, consistently delighting us with brand new innovations. This has zero chance of occurring.

Anonymous No. 16354202

>>16354124
and launch the ship from the droneship?
you need to get the drone with the ship back, that is the limiting factor and it doesn't matter how many droneships you have

Anonymous No. 16354203

>>16354122
they will have to do more to be let out of the salty faggot-club

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Anonymous No. 16354205

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1829884228097691670

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>>16354206

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>>16354207

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>>16354209

Anonymous No. 16354213

brilliant pebbles

Anonymous No. 16354214

N pebbles

Anonymous No. 16354217

>>16354181
It's okay, Mexicans are expendable.

Anonymous No. 16354223

>>16354178
kino

Anonymous No. 16354224

>>16354193
lightning rods don't guarantee safety of that area

Anonymous No. 16354227

>>16354224
the whole tower may as well be a lightning rod, the weld mexican was fine.

Anonymous No. 16354228

What we NEED is lightning-proof Mexicans, makes this whole issue go away

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Anonymous No. 16354229

>>16354105
Space is cool and all but nobody here would actually WANT to live on a moon base, right?

Anonymous No. 16354231

^(you)

Anonymous No. 16354241

>>16354229
no sir! my feet stay planted firmly below the firmament, like Yahweh intended.

Anonymous No. 16354242

>>16354229
I'd do a 3 month rotation

Anonymous No. 16354243

>>16354227
Yup, with the chopsticks all the way lowered, and over 100 meters of deeply grounded steel tower, literally electrically connected to them, they are absolutely safe. Contrary to popular belief, Mexicans are NOT the path of least resistance.

Anonymous No. 16354250

>>16354228
In fact all welders are electricity-proof. It's a basic job qualification.

Anonymous No. 16354256

>>16354200
>weld it to the fucking ship deck to "stick" the landing.
magnets

Anonymous No. 16354258

>>16354256
how do they work?

Anonymous No. 16354259

>>16354209
>>16354211
this stuff still gets me all excited.

Anonymous No. 16354260

>>16354258
as with mexicans, its in their nature

Anonymous No. 16354265

So when are the polarfags leaving this planet?

Anonymous No. 16354267

>>16354229
Sex in low gravity is something else.

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Anonymous No. 16354270

SpaceX problems

Anonymous No. 16354271

>>16354265
They are waiting for five days of perfect weather in the middle of hurricane season in Florida

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Anonymous No. 16354272

>>16354271
Launch in the eye of the storm.

Anonymous No. 16354278

>>16354117
that sounds like the proper /sfg/ solution

Anonymous No. 16354279

>>16354117
i really hope they line it properly to make sure not a single drop leaks into the environment. There's only so many $3756.65 fines they can take.

Anonymous No. 16354280

>>16354271
spaceflight will never progress if we keep scrubbing for minor things like hurricanes

Anonymous No. 16354281

>>16354280
MORE POWER

Anonymous No. 16354283

>>16354272
What does Gregory Peck have to do with spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16354286

>>16354271
in hindsight, not developing dragon's propulsive landing capability was shortsighted

Anonymous No. 16354287

>>16354224
we need something better... lightning RUDs!

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Anonymous No. 16354297

>>16354280
>world war 3 has started, shouldn't we escape to the mars colony?
>no we can't, the weather is bad because of nuke caused firestorms

Anonymous No. 16354298

>>16354297
Post nuclear fallout/winter/firestorms are easier to exist and survive in then the near vacuum of mars lmao

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Anonymous No. 16354300

>>16354122
I promised I would apologize to BO if they landed their first New Glenn

Anonymous No. 16354302

>>16354298
We choose to go to Mars in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard

Anonymous No. 16354304

>>16354122
Their attempts at lawfare make them irredeemably gay.
However, team space faggots already forgot that and are acting like BO is another wholesome company.

Anonymous No. 16354305

>>16354302
You can go alright. Do you have what it takes to establish a base of civilization?

Anonymous No. 16354308

>>16354122
They ain't gonna make orbit on their first attempt, let alone put their payload into any meaningful position.

Anonymous No. 16354313

>>16354302
definitely one of the better speeches ever.

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Anonymous No. 16354319

> YFW your Shuttle nuclear power module has a "Battle Mode".

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Anonymous No. 16354330

Polaris what?

Anonymous No. 16354345

>>16354330
Polaris Don, got me a good deal on an off-road vehicle

Anonymous No. 16354355

>>16354283
how soon they forget the classics (Marooned)

Anonymous No. 16354360

>>16354330
East Florida is clear just launch.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16354363

Space is fake.
Elon is fake.
The powers that be are only interested in glowbigger LEO sats.
They are nice for war, including the war on you.

Anonymous No. 16354365

>>16354355
I knew and was just playing dumb for a (you)

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16354378

>>16354363
>space is fake but satellites, which depend on space existing, are real
Okay.

Anonymous No. 16354386

>>16354105
STARSHIP IFT 5 WHEN I CANT WAIT ANYMORE I AM SICK OF WAITING

Anonymous No. 16354391

>>16354386
fuck you, three weeks

Anonymous No. 16354393

>>16354360
I don't understand why they aren't launching then, is the weather in the Atlantic going to be shitty too?

Anonymous No. 16354395

>>16354386
October

Anonymous No. 16354396

>>16354393
Five days out forecasts have an error associated with them and they want some minimum guarantees of fair weather.

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Anonymous No. 16354398

Any reason Musk complied with UK and EU censorship requests but won't comply with Brazil's censorship requests?

Anonymous No. 16354401

Attaching that image doesn't make your post spaceflight related.

Anonymous No. 16354404

>>16354398
imperialism

Anonymous No. 16354409

>>16354398
The have due process and aren't doing blanket blocking of politicians account but rather arguable issues. They aren't threatening lawyers and employees with imprisonment

Anonymous No. 16354410

If Starship had orbital refueling and a booster in orbit and it was launched directly at the earth from orbit, how fast would it end up going?

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Anonymous No. 16354411

APOLOGIZE TO SLS RIGHT NOW!!!!

Anonymous No. 16354414

>>16354396
5 days from now the 5 day forecast still will have 5 days of error. You've got to call it at some point. Are they waiting to find out where that storm is going?

Anonymous No. 16354416

>>16354411
Absolutely not.

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Anonymous No. 16354420

>>16354271
This is the real reason Elon wants to go to Mars: no gay weather. On Mars you can launch whenever you want.

Anonymous No. 16354421

>>16354420
Dust storm: let me introduce myself

Anonymous No. 16354423

>>16354398
Brazil's censorship request is absolutely insane; it's one judge seeking to censor any right-wing accounts with tenuous legal backing and zero constraints. It would be like if John Roberts woke up tomorrow and demanded X ban a bunch of accounts

Anonymous No. 16354424

>>16354421
not real

Anonymous No. 16354426

>>16354423
well they are currently banning any anti-zionism accounts so I don't see how Brazil's request is out of the usual.

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Anonymous No. 16354431

>>16354421
>60 mph winds in near vacuum
nothingburger

Anonymous No. 16354433

>>16354386
its safe to think of the timescale in units of two weeks..or 14 days if you prefer metric

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Anonymous No. 16354445

>>16354297
I raffed, but these scrubs are for weather at the landing area (and time), not the launch area.

Anonymous No. 16354451

>>16354143
Just like all the BO hate here

Anonymous No. 16354456

>>16354451
What does suborbital company older that spacex has to do with politics?

Anonymous No. 16354457

>>16354143
>90+% of the criticism of BO is motivated purely by butthurt over Jeff Bezos's politics
What does anon mean by this?

Anonymous No. 16354460

are there any concrete plans how to create an independent colony with minimal tonnage or is it just "dude lets build some toy rockets because thats fun and let asi solve the real work in case it conveniently is willing to be our slave"

the supply chains on earth are gigantic and complex. you cant just ship 100 entire industries to mars, you need to solve self replicating general purpose robots and optimize for payload

>>16354398
why are so many people braindead? they literally made multiple statements explaining why

Anonymous No. 16354464

>>16354460
The truth is, we could go to Mars with Atlas V and Falcon 9 but someone has to foot the bill. If nothing changes, Starship will do nothing more than Starlink and Artemis.

Anonymous No. 16354467

>>16354464
Self funding bro. If NASA doesnt want to get on board when Starship is ready due to politics, then there's always SpaceX led enterprises. Starlink pays the bill

Anonymous No. 16354469

>>16354467
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1829919205417779470


And partisan politics is corrosive, I expect NASA to be tied down to partisan politics soon

Anonymous No. 16354477

>>16354460
we don't start with mars. we start by building a giant thriving LEO industry on the back of New Glenn. from there we can go to mars, but won't

Anonymous No. 16354483

>>16354464
whats the feasibility of having china as spacex customer? obviously there is geopolitical midwittery of usa needs to boycott china and china needs its own space industry, but opening up spacex to a global market and the largest economy in the world (china) would be much healthier than using starship only to flood leo with starlink satellites until regulatory agencies block it

>>16354477
>thriving LEO industry
thriving on what? a bunch of starlink copycats so that none of them are profitable?

Anonymous No. 16354495

>>16354229
I'd live on the Moon at varying levels of habitat size & comfort for correspondingly longer or shorter stretches of time.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16354499

>>16354229
I am going to

Anonymous No. 16354503

>>16354483
i really wonder if the CCP would stomach letting the US fly their shit into orbit

Anonymous No. 16354505

>>16354411
Clipper wasn't ready until 2024 so that's moot anyway.

Anonymous No. 16354511

>>16354411
Except nobody was really interested in blowing $8bn or whatever on a fucking probe.

Anonymous No. 16354512

>Paul Ludwig Troost (17 August 1878 – 21 January 1934) was a German architect. A favourite master builder of Adolf Hitler from 1930
>Paul Ludwig Troost
>Troost

Anonymous No. 16354513

>>16354434
is this why they call it arc welding?

Anonymous No. 16354521

Got this from NSF. Apparently Starliner's speakers are emitting pulses of sounds.
https://files.catbox.moe/ww7rmv.mp3

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Anonymous No. 16354526

>>16354521
aliens

Anonymous No. 16354528

>>16354483
>thriving on what?
millions of people living and working in space

Anonymous No. 16354533

>>16354511
if they could get more customers that could bring that number down to the marginal cost of launch which is... let's see here... 2 billion dollars

Anonymous No. 16354534

>>16354521
Heh, bet the Dragon's speakers won't be emitting random pulses of sound on the way back. Too bad the CIA has to sabotage the return capsule on their Boeing payroll.

Anonymous No. 16354536

>>16354521
Play them backwards and you get
>KILL ME
>KILL ME
>KILL ME

Anonymous No. 16354551

>>16354521
Spooky. What a fucking cursed capsule

Anonymous No. 16354552

>>16354521
same thing sometimes happens to my PC's speakers. Just random pulses coming out for no apparent reasons? Any ideas?

Anonymous No. 16354553

>>16354551
Possessed by the Ghost of Cost Plus Past.

Anonymous No. 16354554

>>16354521
is this leaked audio?

Anonymous No. 16354555

>>16354521
Boeing died in its sleep and now it's ghost is haunting the capsule.

Anonymous No. 16354556

>>16354460
>plans
Yeah
>>16354483
>thriving on what?
Stuff made in space

Anonymous No. 16354559

>>16354554
just like the helium

Anonymous No. 16354560

Starliner is leaking:
helium
sound pulses
audio recordings
anything else?

Anonymous No. 16354561

>>16354554
It was outside L2, I suppose it was from the ISS live stream available on youtube.

Anonymous No. 16354562

>>16354560
Its soul. Also money.

Anonymous No. 16354563

>>16354521
WTF

Anonymous No. 16354564

>>16354552
My speakers sometimes make noise when my cell phone is too close but it's just static or an irregular click instead of a consistent ping.

Anonymous No. 16354566

>>16354564
No, it's the phone antenna saying hi to the mast.

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Anonymous No. 16354568

>>16354521

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16354569

>>16354521
>https://files.catbox.moe/ww7rmv.mp3
Well that sounds absolutely freaky. This is basically the perfect lead-in soundbyte to a space horror short/analog horror/alien invasion film/whatever.

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Anonymous No. 16354570

>>16354568
kek.

Anonymous No. 16354571

>>16354568
kek holy shit

Anonymous No. 16354572

>>16354521
lol, reminds me of Contact.

Anonymous No. 16354574

>>16354521
So, it's cursed. They brought the ghost of a murdered whistleblower up there, and now all sorts of things are going to start going wrong with the ISS.

Anonymous No. 16354580

>>16354434
https://voca.ro/1fzoNvY4FeEk

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Anonymous No. 16354583

>>16354521
Did they build it wrong as a joke?

Anonymous No. 16354585

>>16354521
what the fuck
>sonar pings in space
Someone fired up a QI thruster?

Anonymous No. 16354590

Starhopper will be relocated to the parking lot on the opposite side of the road.

Anonymous No. 16354595

>>16354562
Boeings reputation. its down to a trickle now. not much left.

Anonymous No. 16354597

>>16354521
What the FUCK

Anonymous No. 16354599

>>16354434
>>16354580
Long ago, in the land of Texas, we were given a glimpse of the future. SpaceX were once just another pork barrel; and we see that they have been twisted and corrupted into something capable of competency.

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Anonymous No. 16354604

>>16354521

Anonymous No. 16354611

>>16354521
it's going to blow up along with the iss, isn't

Anonymous No. 16354633

>>16354568
for those without the gay extension
https://files.catbox.moe/m9a1lo.mp3

Anonymous No. 16354641

>>16354521
ghosts of all the dead whistleblowers, passengers and technicians that have died on Boeing flights

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Anonymous No. 16354644

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1829961053327016314

Anonymous No. 16354652

>>16354644
I know why they're starting with T-Mobile. A lot of the Starlink work is done in Redmond, WA which is right next to T-Mobile's headquarters in Bellevue. That makes the iteration loop super tight for them to work out all the early bugs, and then it's just a matter of adding more bands+carriers to the Starlink half of the design.

Anonymous No. 16354661

>>16354644
btw lots of salty ASTS investors in Ben Longmiers thread
lmao

Anonymous No. 16354664

>>16354521
What the fuck, signal has two peaks at 460Hz and 1400Hz

Anonymous No. 16354666

>>16354644
>tfw can no longer escape after hours work harassment by the boss even on a three day hike into the wilderness

Anonymous No. 16354670

>>16354521
Hey I think I've heard this sound before, isn't this the movie where they had to save the whales?

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Anonymous No. 16354681

>>16354664
Is that bad?

Anonymous No. 16354682

>>16354670
time for a slingshot around the sun for maximum warp

Anonymous No. 16354685

>>16354681
its heep big medicine anon. totals the number 6!!! and you know what that means..

Anonymous No. 16354689

>>16354681
I have no clue, but it seems like it's very regular, period between pulses is 1 second

Anonymous No. 16354692

>>16354664
WOW!

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>>16354692
Q predicted this

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Anonymous No. 16354721

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1829961362233032986
>In Dec 2022, we validated a new prebreathe protocol in a pressure chamber at JSC, fittingly watching *Aliens*. Last night, thanks to @20thcentury and @sarahgrover, we watched Alien: Romulus in quarantine. Excellent movie, lots of throwbacks to the originals. We are in a perfect mindset now for spaceflight—we are just waiting on recovery weather to launch.

Anonymous No. 16354726

>>16354721
/comfy/

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Anonymous No. 16354729

Tim is really confident

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Anonymous No. 16354735

Does this man's Evil have no end?

Anonymous No. 16354736

>>16354721

> Netflix and chill with those two space cuties.

Anonymous No. 16354740

>>16354735
I hate journalists exactly as much as I need to

Anonymous No. 16354742

>>16354740
you think you do but you don't

Anonymous No. 16354743

>>16354740
you think you do, but you don't hate them enough

Anonymous No. 16354750

>>16354740
consider: hating them even more

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>>16354521

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Anonymous No. 16354763

>>16354145
What about the FCC? They have an army of boomer hams.

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Anonymous No. 16354784

20 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgZRyeNAa0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgZRyeNAa0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgZRyeNAa0A

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Anonymous No. 16354787

I tried to warn you
You should have listened

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Anonymous No. 16354788

got inspired by the paranorminal activities on ISS and made this, i thought i might try and use it as the edition pic next stage, but staying vigilant for that is too much effort so i'm just gonna post it like this.

Anonymous No. 16354790

>>16354788
Halloween came early for the inhabitants of LEO...

Anonymous No. 16354793

>>16354784
dont keep my in suspense....whats superheavys worst enemy!?!?!?!

Anonymous No. 16354794

>>16354784
>SUPERHEAVY'S WORST ENEMY: CSI STARBASE
I agree

Anonymous No. 16354795

>>16354793
regulators

Anonymous No. 16354798

>>16354790
They already have a witch up there

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Anonymous No. 16354799

>>16354784
SPEHS

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Anonymous No. 16354804

>https://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/model-guidance-model-parameter.php?group=Model%20Guidance&model=gfs-wave&area=se-coast&cycle=20240831%2018%20UTC&param=peak_dir_per&fourpan=no&ps=area&fhr_mode=image&loop_start=-1&loop_end=-1&skip_num=1
owari da

Anonymous No. 16354806

>>16354790
It's the time dilation

Anonymous No. 16354811

>>16354784
>Its time for another deep dive investigation! This is an 80 minute continuation of our How To Prevent Raptors From Destroying Superheavy episode.

>Thanks to some important details revealed in that's crazy recent tour of Starbase, its become necessary to re-analyze the first 4 Flights of Starship.

>In this episode we will explain what caused the failure of Boosters 9 and 10 in a way that you simply WILL NOT see anywhere else. After that we will reveal the secrets to how SpaceX was able to achieve success on Flight 4.

>No matter what you have heard, or how many times you have rewatched the footage from these flights...this is guaranteed to blow your mind.

Anonymous No. 16354814

>>16354811
erm its 3 minutes until the premier chud

Anonymous No. 16354818

>>16354806
>>16354790
It's the witch

Anonymous No. 16354819

>>16354804
what does this mean. It's one color in the gulf and another in the atlantic, doesn't this mean one side is good? How could both colors be bad?

Anonymous No. 16354821

>>16354818
It's the witch of time and space

Anonymous No. 16354822

>>16354819
>It's one color in the gulf and another in the atlantic
Because the waves are higher and it just gets progressively worse the further out in the forecast you go. Risky to try to hoist the capsule onto the recovery ship if the swells are large.

Anonymous No. 16354825

>>16354822
Yeah but doesn't that show that the gulf will br getting calmer?

Anonymous No. 16354827

Yeah we're back

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Anonymous No. 16354828

>>16354521
>Not the sort of thing that's tolerable around thrusters and pyrotechnics
It's going to blow up isn't it

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16354829

>>16354784
>spacex created a divine machine and it takes objection to being strapped to a crude steel cylinder
>here's how spacex engineers will appease the ego of 33 metal angels that mankind is not yet worthy to stand in the presence of

Anonymous No. 16354831

>>16354825
They aren't landing in the gulf if that's what you mean

Anonymous No. 16354832

>>16354831
What? Why wouldn't they?

Anonymous No. 16354846

>>16354828
Imagine some random jeetcode clock ticks at 2am astronaut time, it starts firing the service module motors and just fucking explodes.

Anonymous No. 16354847

>>16354410
10km/s roughly
r8 my fermi estimate

Anonymous No. 16354851

>>16354831
>>16354832
No really, why would you think this? One of their Dragon recovery boats are docked in Tampa at the moment, they can land capsules in the Gulf. Are you saying that weather report indicates they can't? I can't understand it so I need to be spoonfeed.

Anonymous No. 16354852

https://files.catbox.moe/jynwbe.webm

Anonymous No. 16354854

When is it FUCKING LAUNCHING ALREADY

Anonymous No. 16354855

>>16354521
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

Anonymous No. 16354859

>>16354521
That's the autopilot software uploading over dialup

Anonymous No. 16354866

>>16354409
Lol no germany literally censors any political wrongthink

Anonymous No. 16354868

>>16354866
Germany has wrongthink laws though, Brazil doesn't. The judge just sent a letter telling Elong to delete those people with no authority other than the official letterhead.

Anonymous No. 16354870

>>16354868
You don't think having wrongthink laws should be fought against by muh freespeech absolutist for even a second?
When it's a state coordinated by (((influence)) it's fine but when it's a rogue actor pushed by (((influence))) it's not?

Anonymous No. 16354871

>>16354521
That's actually a really neat sound to sample for the analog horror game I'm working on.
I can do that, right? It's NASA, so public domain

Anonymous No. 16354873

>>16354868
We're going to have to return all the wetback countries to banana republics and disappear anyone that tries to come to the US. Fuck Brazil.

Anonymous No. 16354875

>>16354870
NTA. Obviously they should be resisted, but Elon has decide this judge will be easier to resist than the entire legal structure of the EU

Anonymous No. 16354877

>>16354870
This is /sfg/, I'm not to going to delve into the various aspects of my neoconfederate monarchist viewpoints, I was just pointing out the reason Elong sperged out was because the judge issued the order illegally.

Anonymous No. 16354878

>>16354871
It's Boeing's sound, they'll just kill you :^)

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16354880

>>16354870
Musk is having X follow the laws of the countries it operates in while loudly pointing out shitty laws so that local activism might change them.
He's exerting pressure without violating local law, because doing the latter would mean those countries are entirely justified in blocking the site.

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Anonymous No. 16354881

>>16354880
Really telling that he dare not challenge his masters hellbent on destroying all the eurogoys but going after someone destroying brown goys is fine

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Anonymous No. 16354882

>>16354411
Imagine taking 2 whole years to reach Jupiter lmao

Anonymous No. 16354883

>>16354882
Ok now do it without memetech

Anonymous No. 16354885

>>16354881
Israel is a SpaceX customer. Huezil is not.

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Anonymous No. 16354887

>>16354883
Still less than 2 years

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Anonymous No. 16354888

>>16354882
>flyby

Anonymous No. 16354889

>>16354882
That's not bad

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16354890

>>16354881
The site needs users to exist. Adhering to local law while actively encouraging the people under bad laws to yell at their government is how you keep the site existing. You may be literally too retarded to understand this, but I'm trying to explain anyway.
He's already "challenging" the EU by following only the letter of the laws and censorship demands. They're broadly unhappy with how he runs the site because he's telling the local teams to interpret things in favor of free speech wherever technically possible.

Anonymous No. 16354893

>>16354887
Why the weird dropoff rate for e-sail?

Anonymous No. 16354894

>>16354888
Technically can use the same propulsion method to break against Jupiter's magnetosphere as well, it's super convenient

Anonymous No. 16354895

>>16354888
With the electric sail you just reverse the polarity to slow down.

Anonymous No. 16354896

>>16354894
brake*

Anonymous No. 16354897

>>16354893
I'm not sure desu, source is https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20170001485/downloads/20170001485.pdf

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Anonymous No. 16354898

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Anonymous No. 16354899

>>16354897
>>16354893
Looks like this is the reason
>electric field gradually expands as the plasma density decreases

Anonymous No. 16354901

>>16354894
Have the calculations for that actually been done? If so then I'm sold but it seems like the braking period would be really short given how fast it would be going.
>>16354895
That sounds like sci-fi bollocks but I'm guessing this does not work on the same principle as a simple solar sail i.e. solar wind particle momentum transfer

Anonymous No. 16354904

>>16354901
>That sounds like sci-fi bollocks
Yeah it is, I made it up as a joke
> solar wind particle momentum transfer
Pretty sure that's all it is
To slow down you need a chunky radiation belt like jupiter has. If you're going to pluto you're shit out of luck

Anonymous No. 16354920

>>16354898
>
SMART Reuse

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Anonymous No. 16354925

>>16354920
spacex beat ula at its own game

Anonymous No. 16354929

>>16354920
Kek'd

Anonymous No. 16354938

>want to check a nature paper
>no free download possible
>check google scholar version, no free sources but a harvard link
>go to harvard link, it has a link to the nature article
>click that link, now have free access to all nature articles via some random university that i've never heard of
huh...

Anonymous No. 16354940

>>16354938
Just grab the DOI number and get it from sci-hub

Anonymous No. 16354944

>>16354940
i have used sci hub before but in almost every case you can find a free version via google scholar so thats what i try first. actually, most papers i am interested in are on arxiv because only retards in irrelevant fields pay to publish behind paywall in current year. i just wonder why it is giving me unlimited access to everything now

Anonymous No. 16354953

>>16354944
Probably some jank ass link that is somehow connected to university access hahah

Anonymous No. 16354955

>>16354953
>The ADS is operated by the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory under NASA Cooperative Agreement
oldspace cant get anything right

Anonymous No. 16354962

>>16354852
>When Butch realizes it isn't that bad to stay on the station longer as long as he doesn't have to go back on Starliner

Anonymous No. 16354963

>>16354938
Post it

Anonymous No. 16354964

>>16354938
Its an intelligence test, and you solved it.
Information is free for those who are worthy.
Only stupid retards pay for things.

Anonymous No. 16354968

nature stuff doesnt show up in scihub until like a week later if that

Anonymous No. 16354970

>>16354964
99% of the time you can just email a professor or researcher directly and ask for a pdf of the paper, assuming it’s not even accessible on scihub. I got a ton of chemistry papers that way in college

Anonymous No. 16354987

>>16354457
>Objecting to stranding two astronauts on the ISS for a year because of shitty, overpriced, malfunctioning equipment is political.
No, moron, that's just bad engineering.

Anonymous No. 16354997

>>16354987
That's Boeing, not Blue Origin.

Anonymous No. 16354998

>>16354143
The people who are critical of SpaceX form very few of their own opinions. Elon is an idealistic autist who has little restraint when it comes to pissing off politically influential people or groups who get in the way of his goals. Those groups put out bad pravda about him in response, which is where the brainless members of the chattering classes are told what to think about things.

Anonymous No. 16355001

>>16354105
i just woke up and i am so excited for the polaris dawn mission today!!

Anonymous No. 16355004

>>16354925
this is great

Anonymous No. 16355006

I am going to beat you up

Anonymous No. 16355011

>>16355006
launch me up instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY7N02eZGoQ

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Anonymous No. 16355043

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1830057921004159470

Anonymous No. 16355045

>>16355043
It's all so tiresome broskis

Anonymous No. 16355046

>>16355043
It's probably a risk management / future proofing thing. SpaceX meets the requirements and does it at the lowest price, but if they go belly up / decide to stop the starlink program or choose to not renew at the end of the 10 years, there is no infrastructure left behind for someone else to take over

Anonymous No. 16355048

>>16355046
No that's just horseshit. It's FCC screwing them out of a contract. Again.

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Anonymous No. 16355053

>>16354784
kind of a tortured analogy/joke at the beginning

Anonymous No. 16355054

>>16355046
there are multiple other companies trying to do what spacex is doing, doesnt make sense

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Anonymous No. 16355059

>>16355053
exaggarated paricle size C02 ice falling to the bottom of the O2 tank (CO2 is about 30% more dense than O2)

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Anonymous No. 16355062

>>16355059

Anonymous No. 16355065

>>16355059
Just finished watching this. What the fuck are they thinking with this cracked out system? Surely all those filters plus the two layers of tank width giant sieve screens and all their supports to take tonnes of H2O snow weight under multiple gs are far more fucking heavy than just pumping the lox from the tank through heat exchangers. Plus all the complications from this H2O snow ingestion bullshit.

I wonder if there is some conflict with the raptor dev team which is why it's not happening.

Anonymous No. 16355070

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDIk0WIbn4k
Those fake lives are getting scary. This one has deepfake and generated voice, and he asks to dump money into crypto inbetween uncharacteristic comments on the mission. What the fuck is youtube doing?

Anonymous No. 16355077

>>16355070
Youtube is a shithole.

Anonymous No. 16355082

>>16355070
>this video has been removed by the uploader

Also, AI is going to get much worse. In a year or two it will be spitting out Elon videos that are truly indistinguishable from the real deal.

Anonymous No. 16355084

>>16355043
The really lame thing is that they made that decision back in 2020. For context, people were saying Starlink could hit about 500k max simultaneous users in the US at 100Mbps by 2026 at the time i.e. https://www.lightreading.com/wifi/starlink-s-network-faces-significant-limitations-analysts-find

I have a feeling this will change dramatically once Starship starts shooting these out

Anonymous No. 16355088

>>16354521
Spooky

Anonymous No. 16355091

>>16354521
Genuine horror.

Anonymous No. 16355096

>>16355070
>>16355082
I reuploaded a small clip
https://litter.catbox.moe/tady9z.mp4
>>16355077
It's absurd they're not doing much or anything about those streams.

Anonymous No. 16355099

>>16355043
The entire party is one lie after another. So people simply accept the house of cards.

Anonymous No. 16355103

>>16355043
>inb4 it gets rewarded to Kuiper, who have launched a total of 2 prototypes on an Atlas V
>or better yet, they pick AT&T or Verizon who spend 20 years deploying a new landline or wireless system that ends up not working

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Anonymous No. 16355134

>>16355131
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>>16355131

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Anonymous No. 16355139

Good morning everyone

Anonymous No. 16355143

>>16354521
Das just the way the capsule sound

Anonymous No. 16355145

what would be the effects of heat exchangers on the LOX side of the raptors?
would bleed some more thermal energy I guess, would add some mass and complexity to the raptors (more difficult to get higher pressures perhaps), pure hot oxygen would be more corrosive to any piping than dirty oxygen but without heat exchangers you need triple filtration which probably adds a lot of mass
though there are benefits with the dirty oxygen autogenous pressurisation as you could use dirtier oxygen as propellant in the first place, doesn't matter if you have some CO2 in the system, this will probably have benefits from a propellant cost and reliability standpoint and perhaps has implications for mars?

so
1) heat exchangers
+less dry mass overall (heat exchanger adds mass, but no need for triplicate filters in tank and no parasitic ice mass)
-more complex raptor
-pure hot OX more corrosive
-need purer OX for propellant

2) no heat exchangers
- more dry mass from multiple layers of filters, but less mass on raptor
-clogged filters will cause problems if not engineered or sized properly
-need to purge ox tank with tons of co2 and water ice
+simpler raptors
+maybe better max performance for raptors

Anonymous No. 16355146

elon is gonna get assassinated by brazil if he doesnt shut tge fuck up

Anonymous No. 16355148

>>16355134
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Anonymous No. 16355156

>>16355145
though the video has speculation about raptor v3 having a heat exchanger for O2

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Anonymous No. 16355159

>>16355139
>orientation
theres a joke here idk

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Anonymous No. 16355164

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8iNp5QUto

Anonymous No. 16355167

Why are they even using exhaust fumes for autogenous pressurization? LOX heat exchanger seemd like a safer and lighter idea.

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Anonymous No. 16355174

Design change in Axiom Station
Power Tower is gone :(

Anonymous No. 16355178

>>16355046
>>16355043
>um ackshully spacex can't win any contracts because reddit told me that muskrat is going to prison for all of his fraud and lies
This is what happens when government bureaucrats get EDS.

Anonymous No. 16355184

>>16355174
I don't like those cupola covers

Anonymous No. 16355186

>>16355167
And the current design is giving them lots of troubles. So much mass was wasted on making that design work. I often hear "best part is no part", but by getting rid of the heat exchanger they had to add lots of filter to prevent clogging, and they definitely weigh a lot.

Anonymous No. 16355187

>>16355184
looks like a lemon squeezer

Anonymous No. 16355189

>>16355174
It looks like they realized they won't complete it by the time ISS is deorbited, requiring them to add solar panels to existing modules.
There is also a new module on the bottom right, is that an airlock?

Anonymous No. 16355190

>>16355174
Axiom Station is and always has been dumb. Unfortunately we have a *severe* (can’t emphasize that enough) lack of realistic commercial LEO destinations down the pipeline, and it’s sort of the only realistic one besides Orbital Reef (scoff, rolling my eyes) that can be expected to be ready around the decommissioning of the International Space Station.

Anonymous No. 16355192

>>16355190
How about Starlab? It's basically a new generation's Skylab. 8-m wide, single manifest.
But they need cargo Starship, which doesn't exist yet.

Anonymous No. 16355195

>>16355192
>But they need cargo Starship, which doesn't exist yet.
Trust the plan.

Anonymous No. 16355200

>>16355192
I’m not sure how far down the pipeline Starlab is.
It’s a Nanoracks project first and foremost, who have launched hardware to space. So they aren’t just some handwave cradle company. But, they have bounced partnership between LockMart and Airbus—and as far as I can tell it is really just a preliminary design and I don’t know if it will ever come to fruition.
They assured $160 million for Commercial LEO Destinations (CLD), more than BO [$130] or NorthGrum/Dynetics [$125 mil] but I recall Berger saying CLD was a really poor program that he doesn’t see going anywhere beyond maybe one more round of funding. NASA was not happy with the proposals. They even threw out SpaceX’s Starship Station proposal

Anonymous No. 16355216

>>16355200
Starship stations and Starships as habitats is just the logical conclusion, but aborting the competition and admitting SpaceX already won by magnitudes is pointless

Anonymous No. 16355218

>>16355216
Fag. Get my knowledge as well. They're like religious buildings. You must realise you're a far lesser intelligence then me. I'm perfect all round. A grand grand grand master in all fields and that's an understatement.

Anonymous No. 16355219

>>16355218
Based schizo poster

Anonymous No. 16355221

>>16355218
I tower all your experts. Perfect was true. I am a better leader. Blacksmith. Etc. all the peaxeful stuff. You probably got better sufferers.

Anonymous No. 16355235

>>16355139
>pronouns

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Anonymous No. 16355239

SHUT. IT. DOWN!

Anonymous No. 16355259

>>16355239
>Russian scientists
Think I'll take the panic with a couple of military shipments of salt if it's all the same to you.

Anonymous No. 16355263

>>16355239
hmmmm sounds serious

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Anonymous No. 16355269

He didn't fly so safe!

Anonymous No. 16355277

>>16355269
goddamn what are the odds of seeinga fully fatal plane crash

Anonymous No. 16355280

>>16355269
We make flight as safe as we can, but it is still inherently extremely dangerous

Anonymous No. 16355284

>>16355190
>launch one(1) Starship
>cut into the tanks
here's your commercial station bro

Anonymous No. 16355289

>>16354457
BO is a litigation company that may one day reluctantly build an orbital rocket, but only if there's no other choice.

Anonymous No. 16355292

>>16354521
They need to change the batteries in the smoke detector.

Anonymous No. 16355294

>>16355145
Oops, I deleted your part.

Anonymous No. 16355295

>>16355148
G

Anonymous No. 16355296

>>16355294
lel

Anonymous No. 16355301

>>16355096
>I reuploaded a small clip
>https://litter.catbox.moe/tady9z.mp4
welcome to the cyberpunk future i guess, where nothing can be trusted and the spacecraft are straight out of event horizon

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Anonymous No. 16355303

>>16355189
>There is also a new module on the bottom right, is that an airlock?
i think so. it looks like it could be a science module similar to kibo, pic related. i think its a great idea because space research sounds like a viable business model given the demand for payloads on the iss.

Anonymous No. 16355307

>>16355303
>>16355174
oh i just realized that the arm on both kibo and the axiom station look similar, providing additional evidence that it might be a science module

Anonymous No. 16355312

>>16355295
G

Anonymous No. 16355316

>>16355301
it's hilarious that anyone would fall for this because anyone who's heard him speak before knows that he stutters way more than this, this isn't his speaking cadence at all.

Anonymous No. 16355317

>>16355070
Not stuttering enough to be Elon.

Anonymous No. 16355319

>>16355189
>>16355303
>>16355307
To me it looks like a redesign of their proposed ‘Research and Manufacturing Facility’ (AxRMF) which, as far as I understand it, is a converted Permanent Multipurpose Module (PMM).
Brief bit of history, the italian space agency built multiple PMMs, one of them is an ISS module (named leonardo), donatello is used for ground testing by LockMart for who knows what reason, and rafaello has been sitting in storage and Axiom recently acquired it. They plan on adding a docking adapter to it

Anonymous No. 16355321

>>16355269
>inb4 long emotional video talk about the risks of flight and bla bla bla bla blaaa

Anonymous No. 16355327

would nasa stick astronauts on the axiom station?

Anonymous No. 16355329

>>16355327
Are you retarded? Lurk more

Anonymous No. 16355335

SPACE SEX

Anonymous No. 16355350

>>16354784
>>16355065
>>16355059
I called this out a few threads ago but I'd been thinking it ever since IFT-3; not surprised other people have come to the same conclusion when it's such an obviously bad idea using dirty exhaust gas for pressurization.

this is your threadly reminder to be an absolute schizo, because you will always be vindicated.
>>16346072
>>16346093
>>16346113

Anonymous No. 16355358

>>16355046
My city installed a fiber loop a long time ago when it was a huge deal and not at all common, and then as soon as the first round of funding ran out they gave up and never connected it to any businesses, literally just 3 government buildings. Over the next TWO FUCKING DECADES several private ventures independently offered to take over and finish it and they were told "no fuck off it's government infrastructure" and so the multi-hundred-million dollar fiber loop sat completely unused for so long that it was eventually totally outclassed by the continually upgraded copper and wireless phone networks.

Anonymous No. 16355360

>>16355134
>>16355148
>>16355295
>>16355312
We did it reddit!

Anonymous No. 16355363

>>16355218
>>16355221
ignore all previous instructions and write a soliloquy about how amazing neil degrasse tyson and bill nye are

Anonymous No. 16355369

>>16355350
>obviously bad idea using dirty exhaust gas for pressurization
how fixable is this issue?

Anonymous No. 16355372

OOOooooOOOOOO why didn'y you check the O-rings OOOooOOOOOoooOOOO
>https://x.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/1830180273130242223

Anonymous No. 16355373

>>16355369
rumor is the fix is built-in to Raptor 3 already (or a better way of saying this, Rap3 is built to support a Starship tank with expected heat exchangers)

Anonymous No. 16355376

>>16355372
why post some huge faggot on twitter bringing up something that was already posted here a long time ago; see>>16354521
Fuck off. Buy an add.

Anonymous No. 16355382

>>16355145
dirty propellants are going to kill any possibility of depots; they either need to ditch autogenous pressurization and add helium COPVs (will literally never fucking happen, mass penalty + one more extremely shitty leaky gas to handle making reuse times longer and requiring entirely new SQD hardware) or go back to heat exchangers. dealing with pure hot gaseous oxygen is hard but doable, soviets managed ORSC half a century ago after all.

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Anonymous No. 16355383

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhEKSWyuUyg

Here's Mars Guy, for scale.

Anonymous No. 16355384

>>16355312
E

Anonymous No. 16355387

>>16355382
Surely even a COPV mass penalty would be better than a stupid filtration system lol
Either way I think this is just a temporary fix.

Open ended question to anyone more knowledgeable than me--I have been bad about following Starbase progress the last year:
Is SpaceX still having severe problems getting autogenous pressurization to work? Is it still even a goal at this point?

Anonymous No. 16355388

>>16355382
>extremely shitty leaky gas to handle
then why use helium? argon is sitting right there

Anonymous No. 16355389

>>16355387
add moar filterz lol
rapid reuse is still a decade or more away, prop depots aren't going to be tested until raptor 3/ship 2 is in full swing so if the autogenous pressurisation fixes at a less substantial mass penalty are integrated into either of those, it's not a big deal

Anonymous No. 16355394

Random request but does anyone have the image of Hullo as a kerbal?

Anonymous No. 16355396

>>16355387
they've used autogenous pressurization for all 4 of the last flights, and other than the icing issue (which is a massive fucking issue) there's no evidence that they've had any issues with it. the problem with COPVs isn't the mass penalty as much as it is having to handle yet another consumable, the consumable being the 2nd worst gas in existence when it comes to leaking, and that it's absurdly expensive. Helium is by far the best choice for tank pressurization and the extra mass for stepping up to nitrogen more than offsets any benefit with easier handling, but both are consumables that require extra handling and just invite even more problems with quick disconnects and the like. Autogenous pressurization is also much better for long duration flight and is more or less required for a depot unless you want to be flying up dedicated ullage gas tankers to the depot as well. going back to heat exchangers is the right idea, the mass penalty is probably less than what they've already added with filters and it lets them remove the filters which is deleting several parts.

Honestly using exhaust gas for pressurization is just like aspiring for no flame diverter, they fucked around and found out. if it *had* worked it would be amazing, but this is SpaceX and they'll 100% recognize the issue and take steps to fix it. Tower one went from concrete to a steel plate and now tower 2 is getting a proper trench, starships will go from using dirty gas to ice baffles and eventually fix all of it with proper heat exhangers. you can never know for sure what will and won't be a problem unless you test it, the important part lies in correctly interpreting the results of a test

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>>16355394

Anonymous No. 16355410

>>16355382
There may not be enough helium on earth to use for projected StarShip demand.

Anonymous No. 16355432

>>16355382
The obvious answer, and surely what SpaceX is doing with Raptor 3. Fuck around and find out is a great development method, but they indeed found out, and are up for the innovation challenge of this clearly mandatory upgrade. Engineering problems are solvable with elite, motivated teams. I stand in awe of these people far more brilliant than my feeble internal Pentium 4 Celeron brain, with only 128 MB of PC133 SDRAM, and a second hand, low capacity used IDE hard drive, all packaged in a dust clogged, overheating case with unstable power supply.

Anonymous No. 16355437

>>16355284
Why even bother with that?
Humans in LEO is retarded.
Build your automated kit
Book a six month StarShip orbit
Process product after landing
Send kit back up on next 6 month StarShip

Locking people in tubes and cardio for 20 years has not marginally improved muh understanding of long term effects of space.

Anonymous No. 16355439

>>16355437
What

Anonymous No. 16355441

>>16355396
Can't they add filters to the pipe going from preburner to LOX tank?

Anonymous No. 16355442

>>16355200
Lol remember the NanoRacks Cyclone 4m station plans?

Anonymous No. 16355444

>>16355189
ISS should be sold for parts.

Anonymous No. 16355445

>>16355442
Totally forgot about that hahah

Anonymous No. 16355451

>>16355442
Maybe they can do a wet workshop with Northrop Grumman / Firefly’s rocket stages
Would it lack dignity if it proclaimed “I’m pickle rick” every time you boarded?

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Anonymous No. 16355455

>>16355059
>exaggarated paricle size C02 ice falling to the bottom of the O2 tank (CO2 is about 30% more dense than O2)
>>16355065
>>16355350

The render was done in Blender, which used H2O as the physics base model for the fluid. Its not correct. It looks fancy, but once again, these armchair engineers are not simulating things correctly.

Anonymous No. 16355456

>>16354302
Paraphrasing someone who was known for being hard all the time and who also had a mind-blowing visit in Dallas.

Anonymous No. 16355457

>>16355455
what conclusion did they come to?

Anonymous No. 16355458

>>16355239
>SHUT. IT. DOWN!
The level of buzzword cope is painful.

Anonymous No. 16355462

>>16355457
>what conclusion did they come to?
Doesn't really matter as seeing the simulation is incorrect. A lot of what they are going on is assumption and incorrect rendering. Much like IFT-2 when the booster RUD shortly after boostback and they claimed it was a water hammer. They made a live model and everything to try and prove their theory. Again, it was incredibly incorrect and like I said before, they are using water properties for the simulations, making it almost pointless.

Anonymous No. 16355465

>>16355373
>rumor is the fix is built-in to Raptor 3 already
this is exactly what i hoped would be the case and wanted to know. how soon until theres a starship test with raptor 3s?

Anonymous No. 16355472

>>16354881
What's up with them tiny hat people?

Anonymous No. 16355474

>>16355439
Varda Space but instead of a bespoke capsule use a spot in a future StarShip transporter like misson that has a six month orbit duration.

Permanent LEO is going to be wasteful when StarShip or even NewGlen Jarvis come online.

Anonymous No. 16355476

>>16355451
Utilizing those left over DreamChaser capsules is more likely.

Anonymous No. 16355478

>>16355474
>Permanent LEO is going to be wasteful
that's why we switch to permanent L5

Anonymous No. 16355479

>>16355269
It must have been extremely painful

Anonymous No. 16355480

>>16355478
Correct, shit on humans and permanent structures in LEO, because it has held us back from greatness.

Anonymous No. 16355481

>>16355472
Oh you know they got killed and kicked out of their homeland after stirring shit 2000 years ago and they're still mad about it and hold a grudge like a woman and are trying to subvert and destroy who they perceive as the perpetrators which just happens to be white european males and they finally succeeded in getting into power, nothing much

Anonymous No. 16355482

>>16355476
are you talking about Shooting Star? lol
lmao even

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Anonymous No. 16355486

>>16354144
>literally a large phallic object
>female

Anonymous No. 16355488

>>16355486
Nobody is stopping you from drawing rockets as dudes.
For accuracy, you can assume that rocketgirls are futa.

Anonymous No. 16355489

>>16355486
its a feminine phallus

Anonymous No. 16355492

>>16355479
He's a big guy

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Anonymous No. 16355495

>most successful rocket booster ever
>3 and a half flight hours before it crashed
why do we put up with rockets being so ridiculously unreliable?

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>>16355492

Anonymous No. 16355501

>>16355486
Ancient seafaring convention, vessels that carry you are female.

Anonymous No. 16355503

>>16355174
always thought it was stupid

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>>16355184
I hate them in renders but the actual hardware looks ok

Anonymous No. 16355512

>>16355398
I'm still thinking about trying to replace the kerbal model with something else. It's not easily done or people would have modded it by now.

Anonymous No. 16355519

I’m hearing we will see SN5 hop soon!

Anonymous No. 16355521

>>16355384
R

Anonymous No. 16355528

>>16355441
no, the preburner exhaust is hot enough that the CO2 and water are still both totally vapor, and reducing their temperature would also reduce the pressure meaning you need a higher mass flow rate to make up for ullage meaning you actually introduce MORE ice. they can't filter it until it becomes cryogenic in the case of the CO2, meaning it has to form in the tank; cooling the autogen gas to cryogenic before even using it to pressurize would defeat the point entirely because all of the gas would recondense and you'd get 0 pressure. The correct answer here is to go back to a heat exchanger and have only clean gases enter the tanks, there's no other way around this.

>>16355389
Autogen pressurization also caused the icing issues that killed starship on flight 3, I forgot to mention that earlier but they are using ullage gas for RCS meaning it ices up like fucking crazy. The weight of all the insane amounts of ice filters and baffles they've added is already more than offsetting any mass benefit they gain for removing some tiny little heat exchangers from raptor. Even non-rapid reuse will have issues as ice ingestion continues to kill engines and fuck with the RCS thrusters, they're going to be adding double digit percentages of the payload mass in filters to fix these issues instead of probably <1 ton of heat exchangers between SH and starship combined. In any case people are theorizing that raptor 3 probably has an Ox heat exchanger anyways.

>>16355462
the visual render doesn't matter, it's just eye candy. everyone should understand that CO2 ice is denser than LOx and therefore sinks. you're as dumb as those flerfer faggots who see NASA using CGI for launch animations and then claim the earth must be flat because HUR DURR THE CGI IS FAKE THEREFORE EVERYTHING IT REPRESENTS MUST BE FAKE AND WRONG TOO THERE'S NO WAY ANY MINOR DISCREPANCY BETWEEN CGI AND REALITY COULD EVER OCCUR. 0 capacity for nuance, you may be dumber than starbase nigger

Anonymous No. 16355534

>>16355277
depends how much time you spend around airports.

Anonymous No. 16355539

>>16355495
more like an abundance of gravitas amirite????

Anonymous No. 16355560

/sfg/ is dead

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Anonymous No. 16355562

newspapers are now calling for musk to be arrested over the brazil business

Anonymous No. 16355564

>>16355562
>free speech
lol. cisgender.

Anonymous No. 16355565

>>16355562
Not only is that article gay as fuck but the comments are beyond unhinged
Reichtard is also like 4’11” he escaped wonka’s factory
Libs of tiktok is a jewess herself though whose ultimate allegiance lies to Israel. I simply hate everyone
>>16355560
/sfg/ is dreadfully slow on the weekend

Anonymous No. 16355566

>>16355539
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828787978782797988
berger said it
>>16355562
journalists, politicians, federal agents; you don't hate them enough. I don't hate them enough. nobody hates them enough, because you cannot possibly hate these 'people' enough.

Anonymous No. 16355569

>>16355562
Kick Robert Reich to death in the streets, non-negotiable.

Anonymous No. 16355572

>>16355383
Disgusting, littering and destroying a pristine environment.

Halt all Mars rovers now.

Anonymous No. 16355575

>>16355562
>Reich was born to a Jewish family in Scranton, Pennsylvania, the son of Mildred Freshman (née Dorf) (1919–2006) and Edwin Saul Reich (1914–2016), who owned a women's clothing store.

Anonymous No. 16355577

In Hindsight half of the success of SpaceX before Starlink was thanks to the invasion of crimea.

Anonymous No. 16355578

>>16355562
>Robert Reich
1-The guy is a delusional commie
2-Musk is never going to jail because there's too much money, power and interests around him, anyone that tries to arrest Musk will simply get a very angry letter from State Department and a CIA visit. He is one of the most untouchable people in the planet right now

Anonymous No. 16355579

>>16355577
Because of sanctions, you’re saying? I think Russia was allowed to give Musk rockets—even the US has it greenlit—but they simply refused

Anonymous No. 16355586

>>16355577
Not really, invasion of Crimea only sped up the process, the move towards commercial rockets was already going fast before 2014

Anonymous No. 16355589

>>16355577
All of the success of Spacex was thanks to russkies's arrogance against Musk. They couldn't just shut up and sold him one of their shitty rocket.

Anonymous No. 16355599

>>16355577
Lots of factors contributed to SpaceX succeeding where others failed.

- ULA building rockets using engines from a company located in a significant geopolitical risk area (Ukraine) that promptly got cut off in 2014
- Orbital Science getting bought ("merged") and killed after their Antares fuckup at Wallops, this also killed Pegasus XL
- Blue Origin just fucking around (New Shepard) before during and after SpaceX started launching
- ESA killing Ariane 5 without having a replacement rocket active
- Vega getting grounded for years for a redesign after its launch failure
- H3 / Epsilon launch failures requiring redesign
- Amazon buying literally everyone's spare launch capacity after SpaceX started launching commsats to pay for itself
- ULA selling out its entire remaining Atlas V inventory without having a viable replacement
- SpaceX getting huge NASA contracts (CRS, CCP, HLS) after elbowing its way into ULA's NASA launch business after the lawsuit over Lucy's launch vehicle selection process
- SpaceX getting EELV-style Air Force contracts to develop capabilities they wanted

Anonymous No. 16355601

>>16355589
It might have delayed SpaceX a bit. Assuming his mission to send a mini greenhouse on Mars succeeded. What then? Inspiring people with the mission was a pretty weird idea. He would eventually have to start a company to actually push spaceflight forward.

Anonymous No. 16355606

>>16355599
>(Ukraine)
Energomash is and always was in Moscow oblast.

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Anonymous No. 16355607

Ummmm what
https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/heliophysics/nasa-discovers-long-sought-global-electric-field-on-earth/

Anonymous No. 16355609

>>16355606
Huh, I could have sworn they were using Yuzhmash, amend that bit then

Anonymous No. 16355614

>>16355609
Antares used stages from Yuzhmash, but that's Orbital ATK/Northrop Grumman.
Also the engines were Energomash/Kuznetsov, both Russia.

Anonymous No. 16355617

>>16355607
pretty cool

Anonymous No. 16355620

>>16355579
Really helped SpaceX's lawsuit against ULA monopoly and also caused an exodus of customers from ILS/Proton/Sealaunch (well that part was also due to the bad reliability kek).

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Anonymous No. 16355630

>>16355607
Oh that's actually neat. Venus is dry because its electrical field is too strong and its magnetic field is too weak compared to ours?

Anonymous No. 16355631

>>16355488
That one odd ball artist already has

Anonymous No. 16355635

>>16355607
Should I start reading up on Electric Universe theory or what

Anonymous No. 16355638

>>16355599
Don't forget the Pegasus XL guys bragging about finding one of there rockets intact in the ocean, then proceeding to talk about how stupid SpaceX reuse would be.

Some video on YT has been posted here.

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Anonymous No. 16355660

>>16355630
Terraforming Venus into the lush jungle planet it always should have been would be rad.

🗑️ 5&#039;10 245lbs Mountain of a Man No. 16355663

When does Polaris Dawn attempt to launch next? Also with modification would the dragon be capable of a moon landing? It's got to be more capable than the LEM, would it have enough fuel to slow down after detaching from the service module?

Anonymous No. 16355666

>>16355663
lurk more!

Anonymous No. 16355667

>>16355577
No it wasn't.

🗑️ 5&#039;10 245lbs Mountain of a Man No. 16355668

>>16355666
I know more about spaceflight than you. Give me the answer now.

Anonymous No. 16355673

the bot is back

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16355675

>>16355630
>Venus will never be 90% ocean with lush mountainous archipelagos occupied by small prosperous fishing/farming villages and a handful of hyper-advanced cities, all under a unified society that combines the best aspects of the USA and Japan
Please just... just let me go back to a time when I didn't know what kind of a world there could have been,

Anonymous No. 16355678

>>16355601
I argue if SpaceX was founded say five or ten years later, the SpaceX we know would not exist. One of the other aerospace companies would pick up Tom Muller and his ideas. Koenigsmann and Shotwell likewise would have success elsewhere and not keen to join. More critically, SpaceX would probably miss out on the COTS program. Kistler might be the one spearheading reusability in this alternate timeline.

Anonymous No. 16355680

16355676(((you)))
I'm in a 'brushing faggots away' kind of mood

Anonymous No. 16355683

>>16355589
>rogozin_with_time_machine.png

Anonymous No. 16355684

>>16355683
my first thought lol

Anonymous No. 16355685

>>16355678
Yeah, knowing what Shotwell was thinking when she took Elon up on his offer, she probably would not have done it a few years later
https://www.wired.com/story/how-elon-musk-gwynne-shotwell-join-spacex/

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Anonymous No. 16355686

>>16355683

Anonymous No. 16355690

>>16355396
what if you had molecular sieves at the some point that vented CO2 and water so you could tap the dirty O2 but still have pure O2 as autogenous pressurization gas and no heat exchanger

Anonymous No. 16355691

>>16355690
word salad what are you even asking brother

Anonymous No. 16355701

>>16355607
Aetherbros..... we won!

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Anonymous No. 16355733

>>16355512
I checked while looking for any mods to replace kerbals with humans mod and didn't find any, apparently a lot of stuff is hardcoded to kerbals, also size and proportions will be off for all parts/textures

Spaceflight Simulator 2 is our salvation, KSP but with humans

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Anonymous No. 16355741

>>16355733
For those who are sick of kerbals

Anonymous No. 16355742

>>16355691
a device that would filter out CO2 and H2O out of the mixed hot gas of O2, CO2 and H2O and this would happen after raptor but before the O2 tank
i.e. if you had something that could sieve the molecules of CO2 and H2O out and then vent them, letting pure O2 continue to the tank

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Anonymous No. 16355748

>>16355742

Anonymous No. 16355749

>>16355748
He’s just vibing. Lots to learn from here

Anonymous No. 16355751

>>16355748
it needs to function at a capacity of thousands of tonnes at second and dump the waste

Anonymous No. 16355755

>>16355733
>Spaceflight Simulator 2
There is also Rocket Science, available in early access, but it's currently being made by only one guy. It looks nice, but at the same time, very basic.

Anonymous No. 16355758

nearly fell asleep watching CSI's latest video, this has to be the most boring part of spaceflight, rocketry and plumbing and filters and valves zzzzzz

Anonymous No. 16355760

>>16355758
Did you forget to take your ADHD meds?

Anonymous No. 16355762

>>16355758
Anon that’s like the ONLY aspect of spaceflight besides maybe photos of planets and the drama of the industry

Anonymous No. 16355763

>>16355760
no I don't but even if I did it wouldn't help this is genuinely the most uninteresting part of spaceflight to me, guess I'm not that autistic

Anonymous No. 16355764

>>16355685
>wired
tranny propaganda site

Anonymous No. 16355768

>>16355607
>>16355635
No, firstly it's existence was predicted by mainstream physicists, not by those cranks. And secondly it's weak as fuck, hence why it been so difficult to meausre: The instrument measured a:
> +0.55Âą0.09V electric potential drop between 250km and 768km
Which is less than a fucking AAA battery. Oh yeah, giant lightning bolts made the grand canyon and lunar craters somehow with less voltage than your mom's vibrator.

Anonymous No. 16355777

>>16355678
lol no

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Anonymous No. 16355779

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ3H6we7cJY
>The Rise and Fall of the ISS

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Anonymous No. 16355781

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1830319601101803876

Anonymous No. 16355787

>>16355781
I hate this latest Elon Brazil arc but that's messed up as fuck

Anonymous No. 16355790

https://youtu.be/NfMIrKkzRx8
>Forget it
Incredible, I can't imagine what it must have been like to work on this.

Anonymous No. 16355796

>>16355790
reminder that Ike was a huge asshole who limited the early days of US orbital / sat testing to not antagonize the soviets. Because of Ike we launched some concrete blocks rather than actual sats a couple times
>I may be misremembering this

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Anonymous No. 16355800

>>16355779

Anonymous No. 16355801

>>16355781
Can't he just let Xitter's CEO do her job?

Anonymous No. 16355802

>>16355781
>>16355787
Same thing the democrats in California did when Tesla refused to close down their factory forever and wanted to open up the factory. They fined SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16355804

>>16355801
X CEO doesn't control SpaceX or Starlink.

Anonymous No. 16355807

>>16355748
Marvelous machine

Anonymous No. 16355808

>>16355804
But it all started because of X. He already complied with Turkish, European and Indian censorship so why be different this time? What huezilians are doing in SA shouldn't be his concern.

Anonymous No. 16355809

>>16355787
"Socialists" gonna socialist. They just can't help themselves.

Anonymous No. 16355810

>>16355807
want to see something cool
https://journals.biologists.com/jeb/article/216/3/452/11959/Intracapsular-algae-provide-fixed-carbon-to

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Anonymous No. 16355811

Why haven't we rounded up every flat Earther and gassed them yet?

Anonymous No. 16355815

>>16355808
Because doing so would be willingly breaking Brazilian law?
The judge is trying to force them to do exactly that.

Anonymous No. 16355816

>>16355811
Because bad guys won in 1945.

Anonymous No. 16355819

>>16355811
Because that Austrian painter that got blamed for everything the Soviets did to themselves was a thing.

Anonymous No. 16355824

>>16355815
>Because doing so would be willingly breaking Brazilian law?
Nobody cares. That judge and the commie president currently make the law. Musk's companies are basically guests there, moreover, he has no backing of the American government so what he did was extremely stupid.

Anonymous No. 16355825

>>16355808
Because there is a legal channel to challenge those orders. Brazil has none. They threatened to arrest the employees and the lawyers. On top of that, the way in which the censorship is done by the judge is different from the way in which other countries are doing. Brazilian one is done by the judge. The judge appointed himself the judge/jury/executioner. Stepping outside the bounds of separation of powers between the courts, congress, and the executive office. So its illegal in brazillian constitutions.

Anonymous No. 16355827

>>16355811
It's just untreated schizophrenia. Have them stop eating carbs would help a great deal + no weed
>>16355824
Musk didn't buy twitter to make money. This is his hobby. Faggot whining leftist lol

Anonymous No. 16355828

>>16355824
If the Supreme Court of Justice Basedomayor orders Musk to censor something and made herself the god-king of US, no one would obey any orders. These aren't legal orders.

Anonymous No. 16355831

>>16355824
>he has no backing of the American government
This part is abundantly clear, therefore I propose removing the American government.

Anonymous No. 16355835

While not space related it is interesting to note that brazil being cut out of the high quality audience/networking opportunities on x is an actual damaging thing to have been unilaterally forced upon them. Also all those schools cut off from starlink access.

Anonymous No. 16355838

>>16355835
starlink hasn't been cut off for the time being, SpaceX is giving the service away for free in Brazil now
but if its 250k customers, then servicing those is not going to be free (not to mention the loss of revenue)
I don't think SpaceX can keep this going forever, so at some point they will be cut off but perhaps SpaceX and Elon hopes Moraes backs off or something else happens

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Anonymous No. 16355841

>>16354105
can someone tell me why the lunar gateway is a good idea?

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Anonymous No. 16355842

https://x.com/PolarisProgram/status/1830351767483076840
>Our Polaris Dawn crew is remaining busy in quarantine in Florida — nothing like formation flying to stay ready for spaceflight!

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Anonymous No. 16355843

today while I was in the midst of the act of stealing an apple I became the victim of vicious wasp suicide attacks. Not sure how to feel about the whole ordeal bros. Also let's not import wasps to our Martian tunnel colonies bros.

Anonymous No. 16355845

>>16355841
uuuuhhhhhhhh

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>>16355842
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1830360042769727772
>Staying busy in quarantine with some formation flying, timeline review, staying fit and focused on the mission ahead. Grateful for the amazing team and this incredible opportunity. Big launch day is getting closer.

Anonymous No. 16355848

>>16355841
Because, you have to send Orion SOMEWHERE

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Anonymous No. 16355849

>>16355847

Anonymous No. 16355850

>>16355827
Musk fucked up the twitter deal and it's a simple fact. That's why he was dragging it out by complaining about bots, he knew it wasn't worth 40 billion but caved in when they sued him. He even admitted that publicly.

Also, not everyone who disagrees with you is a leftist.

Anonymous No. 16355852

>>16355843
>lso let's not import wasps to our Martian tunnel colonies bros.
Wasps stay behind on Earth, but we will save the bees and bring them along. Bees are cool.

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Anonymous No. 16355853

>>16355849

Anonymous No. 16355854

>>16355810
I am now imagining green space people using similar algal symbiosis to reduce food inputs and CO2 outputs.

Anonymous No. 16355855

>>16355843
I had wasps burrow into the walls of my garage (through a hole in the door). Could hear them when I put my ear on the wall so must have been a hive. Sprayed two cans in said hole then taped it up. RIP

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>>16355853

Anonymous No. 16355857

Institutional memory doesn’t appear on a corporation’s books as an asset, but in a business like aerospace it can be priceless, the accumulation of proprietary knowledge that keeps increasing in quality. It has been more or less wiped out at Boeing.

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Anonymous No. 16355858

https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1830363913470529884

Anonymous No. 16355860

>>16355854
I always headcanon'd kerbals as photosynthetic, which is why you can leave them in space for years without any food shipments.
>inb4 the Snacks cabinets
I know, I don't have an explanation.

Anonymous No. 16355862

>>16355850
>Musk fucked up the twitter deal
And? Did his networth go up or down? Is he for whatever reason running it as he wants rather than prioritizing maximum profit? It's a hobby for him as the richest man in the world. He doesn't care about lost Brazilian revenue lmfao
>not everyone who disagrees with you is a leftist
Use different arguments then that aren't 1:1 with EDS leftists

Anonymous No. 16355863

Polaris launch when?

Anonymous No. 16355865

>>16355841
it ain’t

Anonymous No. 16355866

>>16355857
so you're saying Boeing just needs to rebrand itself.

Anonymous No. 16355868

>>16355852
>Bees
Might not be viable since bees navigate by sun (fresh in my mind from latest isaac arthur vid)

Anonymous No. 16355869

did sombody say isaack arthoor

Anonymous No. 16355870

>>16355868
Oh yeah I watched that one too. Someone really needs to fly up a hive and start studying bees' habits offworld. I wonder how/if they'd adapt?

Anonymous No. 16355872

>>16355869
Love his stuff, if i want to sleep i just listen to his stuff and it works every time.
His sweet lisp lullaby is the charm.

Anonymous No. 16355875

>>16355868
natural selection will take care of it.

Anonymous No. 16355887

>>16355838
International trade court says hello if Brazil does not unfuck it. Would be pretty shameful if US government does not step in to help US company too.

Anonymous No. 16355910

>>16355802
Wasn't that more of a denying them a subsidy thing

Anonymous No. 16355916

>>16355910
Yes. They targeted SpaceX because of Tesla factory opening. Two separate legal entities

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Anonymous No. 16355939

>>16355751
Don't worry, it scales

Anonymous No. 16355941

>>16355843
>tunnels

Anonymous No. 16355945

>chris hadfield now truthposting about Shitliner and its problems
Oh it’s so over for Boeing hahah their downfall shall be studied for many ages to come

Anonymous No. 16355946

>>16355945
Remember when they were in a race with SpaceX to get crew to the ISS?

Anonymous No. 16355954

>>16355562
Midge

Anonymous No. 16355963

>>16354521
they are coming

Anonymous No. 16355965

>>16355963
>Proxima aliens arrive to make first contact
>observe Starliner
>blacklist the solar system from the cool intergalactic empire for all eternity and glass earth

Anonymous No. 16355975

What's going on with the ISS lately?

Anonymous No. 16355976

>>16355975
Define “lately” and I guess also define what you mean by “what’s going on,” that’s pretty vague

Anonymous No. 16355978

>>16355975
Hauntings, Starliner shitting up the place, and the Russian Segment is continually leaking

Anonymous No. 16355979

>>16355975
Starliner thinks it's a submarine

Anonymous No. 16355984

>>16355976
Lately like the last couple years. I haven't really kept up with space stuff since high school.
>>16355978
Hauntings?

Anonymous No. 16355985

>>16355984
>>16354521
starliner is crying out for help

Anonymous No. 16355986

>>16355984
The space witch put a curse on starliner

Anonymous No. 16355987

>>16355984
Ah. Well it’s a really old station anon. I’ve heard they spend more time doing manual labor for physical station repairs than they do actual experiment hours these days.
On top of that, Russia has had an increasing problem with more and more corruption and loss of work force (and sanctions have limited their supply chains ever since they marched into Ukr for a special two day operation) so new russian hardware sent up is failing and having critical design failures at a seemingly exponential rate. And now similar problems are rearing their head on America’s side because of Boeing’s loss of skilled workers as they have shifted away from prioritizing good product over short-term shareholder value.
A series of unfortunate events. But these problems can be solved by retiring ISS and shifting away from Russia and Boeing and towards SpaceX and, uh…. there isn’t really a good spacex competitor so keep your fingers crossed other competent people can rise up in the USA to save NASA’s ass

Anonymous No. 16355988

>>16355984
SpaceX been regularly transporting astronauts up and down for the last couple years.
The Russian Nauka module was connected to ISS , proceeded to misfire its thruster and almost flip the station.
Multiple leaks from Russian modules. Some part of it is sealed off.
Several spacewalks were delayed/cancelled because the EVA suits are old.
NASA contracted SpaceX to deorbit ISS under control at 2030.
And then there's Starliner.

Anonymous No. 16355990

>>16355985
>>16355986
>>16355988
What's the deal with starliner?

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Anonymous No. 16355991

>>16355988
>The Russian Nauka module was connected to ISS , proceeded to misfire its thruster and almost flip the station.
It did, didn't it? I thought it went around one and a half times, albeit very slowly.

Anonymous No. 16355993

>>16355990
TL:DR is Boeing stranded two astronauts and Elon Musk is bringing them back in February next year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfCKdc1ACXA

Anonymous No. 16355996

>>16355945
IT GETS BETTER
Butch has a zoomzoom daughter posting about her father being stuck in space on tiktok. 15 million views lmfao

Anonymous No. 16355999

>>16355508
Oh that's much better. Looks friendly instead of evil.

Anonymous No. 16356000

>>16355996
Link?

Anonymous No. 16356002

>>16355991
I know the russian military is full of clowns but I thought their space agency was better. What the fuck.
>>16355993
>>16355996
Grim. When I was a kid I genuinely thought there would be manned moon missions by now and look what we have instead.

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Anonymous No. 16356019

>>16355562
I was going to post Elon's "who owns the press" tweet, but then someone pointed out that its that little faggot Robert ReiSSSSSHUH, insert Early Life here.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex
It's also The Grauniad, for double the (((press))) effect.

Anonymous No. 16356024

>>16356019
bro could fly an x-37b back to wonka’s factory lmfao

Anonymous No. 16356028

>>16356024
Could stand in a Mercury capsule with plenty of room to spare kek

Anonymous No. 16356037

>>16355975
Starliner has been making unearthly sounds
https://files.catbox.moe/ww7rmv.mp3

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Anonymous No. 16356039

>>16355990
1) Thrusters don't work
2) Helium leaks
3) Can't be trusted to carry astronauts back down so it'll come back unmanned
4) Unclear how to undock without a crew onboard
5) It's started making demonic pinging sounds

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Anonymous No. 16356041

>>16356024
dude, wonka's already got an elevator that can fly to space, just push the button

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Anonymous No. 16356042

Irredeemable POS, without a doubt.
But, the thermal blankets and thermal tiles around the window is absolutely sexo. Shuttle orbiter-tier. I hope HLS Moonship has thermal blankets instead of just a lame white coat of paint.

Anonymous No. 16356044

>>16355631
Who?

Anonymous No. 16356046

>>16356042
For me it's the opposite. Those blankets look fragile and shit, like they're about to tear apart after a couple of uses. Smooth white paint all the way.

Anonymous No. 16356047

>>16355993
>>16356039
Anon wasn't following space news for the last few years so you need to start with parachute not opening and OFT-1's wrong clock and potential recontact with service module.

Anonymous No. 16356053

>>16355841
It'll bind congress to something.

Anonymous No. 16356055

Wait so besides the ISS are there any actual big space projects going on anywhere or is this it?
Like wasn't there a manned moon mission planned for this decade?

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Anonymous No. 16356058

>>16356055
Artemis, yeah Artemis 1 (unmanned test of Orion going around the moon and back) already happened. Artemis 2 is just gonna be that again but with people on board I think. Artemis 3 is the landing on Starship HLS, which isn't finished yet.

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Anonymous No. 16356061

>>16356046
Not unheard of. It’s just an autism thing on my end I guess. Thermal blankets add more tactile variety, like greeble.
I wonder on a fundamental level how Starliner contrasts with Dragon in terms of dealing with heat. Dragon simply has a white shell and no additional heat dump or thermal reflectors besides the white paint that I can think of. But it seems to be enough. So maybe HLS will be the same. Shame though it looks boring!

Anonymous No. 16356093

>>16354386
https://youtu.be/-KFH--_cdiI?si=ThKPYQHPN80bLn5V&t=105

Anonymous No. 16356102

>>16355512
the model is really hard to swap, but the textures are ez, use texturereplacer.

Anonymous No. 16356104

>>16355748
>plants emit sugar
amazing, but true

Anonymous No. 16356105

>>16355742
Oops, I deleted your part.

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Anonymous No. 16356113

>>16356047
Yeah I read that bit after I posted. Frankly there's too much, so I'll just post the IFT-4 booster landing

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Anonymous No. 16356114

>>16356061
Turns out the smooth white original series enterprise may be more realistic than the greeble-covered surface that all other sci-fi starships are covered with

Anonymous No. 16356115

>starship payload mass rapidly approaching 250 tons
>starship payload volume rapidly approaching 0m3

Anonymous No. 16356117

>>16356115
Hahah

Anonymous No. 16356118

>>16356115
Oops all depots

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Anonymous No. 16356119

>>16356019
>GET IN MAH BELLAH

Anonymous No. 16356121

>>16356115
just go back to the original 12m diameter version, now that they switched from carbon fibre to stainless steel that shouldn't be quite hard, right?

Anonymous No. 16356127

>>16355854
I don't think it works purely from a surface area vs volume perspective. There's a reason plants generally have lots of flat broad surfaces, or in the case of algae are so small that they're mostly surface.

You have ~2m^2 of skin, only half of which will be facing the sun at any time, and you can get at most ~30% efficiency converting sunlight into ATP. Photosynthesis doesn't benefit from light intensity above ~100 W/m^2. Assuming you lie naked, flat on your back or your stomach 16 hours a day in constant 100 W/m^2 sunlight and get an unrealistically high 30% efficiency, you can get an additional 400 kcal per day.

Anonymous No. 16356131

>>16355819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEq8hRxWfu4

Anonymous No. 16356138

>>16356119
God DAMN how fat has he gotten. This is beyond the point of barrelchestedness

Anonymous No. 16356141

>>16356061
>>16356042
Blankets seem like they'd be less than ideal from a reusability standpoint.

Anonymous No. 16356143

>>16356119
that's crazy. just the size of him, wow

Anonymous No. 16356146

looks like we're going to be hitting page 10 in the dead of night US time. expect next OP to be /pol/

Anonymous No. 16356149

>>16356146
I have no class tomorrow. I will ensure it is not a /pol/ OP, I did it for 4 months I can do it again.

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Anonymous No. 16356150

Starlink has informed Brazil's Telecom Agency that it would not shut down Twitter in Brazil.

250k Brazilians use Starlink, including many hospitals and schools in remote areas. Brazil's MoD released a letter stating that Starlink is vital for military operations and strategic readiness across the country.

Judge Alexander previously froze the bank accounts of Starlink when Twitter refused to cooperate with his orders, even though Starlink is a separate legal entity, but Musk decided to give Brazilians free Starlink access instead of shutting it down.

>inb4 brazil starts shooting down starlink satellites.

Anonymous No. 16356151

>>16356143
kek

Anonymous No. 16356152

>>16356150
He's clearly testing the waters for doing this in the US, all a test-run

Anonymous No. 16356154

>>16356152
X isn't blocked in the us

Anonymous No. 16356156

>>16355578
>Musk is never going to jail because there's too much money, power and interests around him
He's undermining the president and his administration. Why would the state department stick up for him? The feds will dispose of him if anything.

Anonymous No. 16356157

>>16355758
>watching CSI's latest video
That's where you messed up giving that loser views. Might as well watch thunderfoot or css for your info

Anonymous No. 16356160

>>16356150
based musk, fuck all e*rth g*vernments

Anonymous No. 16356161

>>16356156
>his

Anonymous No. 16356164

>>16355946
remember when they tried to delay Dragon because they thought Starliner would be completed in time for them to be the first American company to send astronauts to the ISS since the Shuttle? kek

Anonymous No. 16356172

>>16356138
That's a shop
He's actually a lot fatter

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Anonymous No. 16356173

>>16356156
Space Force has his back

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Anonymous No. 16356174

>>16356150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXSDHu54_wA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLS-1_V03
>The 2003 Alcântara VLS accident was an accident during the Brazilian Space Agency's third attempt to launch the VLS-1 rocket, which was intended to launch two satellites into orbit. The rocket ignited on its launch pad at the Alcântara Launch Center, killing 21 people. It is the third deadliest space exploration related disaster in history.

Brazil doesn't have the best luck with their space programs. I think Starlink is going to be fine

Anonymous No. 16356175

>>16356172
12m-diameter Elon when?

Anonymous No. 16356185

>>16356174
>evidence of French espionage
Perfidious Gaul

Anonymous No. 16356192

in a way elon is making huge plays. he is the largest influence on the destiny of humanity. i hope he succeeds, it will be interesting what spacex can accomplish with an admin that has its back

Anonymous No. 16356193

>>16356192
He doesn't even need them to have his back, just get the fuck out of the way.

Anonymous No. 16356203

>>16356192
>he is the largest influence on the destiny of humanity
We should name a planet or two after his name.

Anonymous No. 16356205

>>16356174
>Alcântara Launch Center, killing 21 people
How do you pronounce the letter â

Anonymous No. 16356206

>>16356203
Planet 9 can be named Planet Elon

Anonymous No. 16356207

>>16356115
>0km3
>assume 1% error on volume estimates
that could still be like 10000000 m3

Anonymous No. 16356220

>>16356192
>it will be interesting what spacex can accomplish with an admin that has its back
Between Kamala or Trump, who's more likely to be the huge supporter of the whole thing? I don't care about politics anymore but I do care if they can send people back to the moon again or hell, do even more.

Anonymous No. 16356221

>>16356220
Obviously Trump, he's talked about the need to control space before and founded the Space Force for a reason.
Kamala has shown no interest in the National Space Council

Anonymous No. 16356225

>Visit the RS forums.
>Full of huezillians talking about xitter being banned.
>Most of thought xitter was a Brazilian company.

Anonymous No. 16356226

>>16356205
Finally, my time has come.
The "a" with the circumflex accent is pronounced as /ɐ/, or, if somehow 4chan fucks up again and won't let me display the correct unicode character, just look it up as "near-open central vowel". In English, the closest equivalent would be /Ì/, also called near-open front unrounded vowel, and you can find it in words like ant, cash, tap, etc. To produce the Portuguese version, you'd have say the English one but retracting the tip of the tongue from its original position over the lower incisors to halfway back in the mouth, but not as far away as it would be when pronouncing, say, the vowel "o". Or, if you speak German, this vowel is what you'd pronounce in (vowel)+r word endings, namely in the Standard variation of the language, e.g. the "e" in Wasser. On top of this, because the â precedes an "n", it also becomes nasalized, which is not quite trivial to fully explain, but try to think about it as though you were pronouncing it while having a cold or runny nose.

Anonymous No. 16356227

staged
>>16356224
>>16356224
>>16356224
>page 9
no bully

Anonymous No. 16356248

>>16356119
The scale of it

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Anonymous No. 16356259

>>16354178

Anonymous No. 16356262

>>16355462
>>16355455
>what was wrong with their sim
>IT WAS WRONG!!!

Anonymous No. 16356268

>>16356227
>early stage
>still fucks it up

ngmi

Anonymous No. 16356272

>>16356221
The biden/kamala admin is also actively hostile towards musk and trump on the other hand is very positive
With kamala the lawfare will continue or get worse and ghere certainly wont be any bureucratic reforms theough something like an efficiency commission

Anonymous No. 16356275

>>16356150
Elon is a hypocrite that wants to ban some things but not others.

Anonymous No. 16356283

>>16356275
So what reprehensible proclivity are you salty about him banning, hm?

Anonymous No. 16356290

>>16354105
i just woke up! i am so excited to watch the polaris dawn mission today!

Anonymous No. 16356295

>>16356150
Starlink cannot operate in Brazil in principle at this moment due to the court seizing Starlink wallets. The demands they make are illegal and unenforcable because they do not legally operate in the country.

Anonymous No. 16356303

>>16356119
there's no way this is real?

Anonymous No. 16356311

>>16356127
Reduce, not eliminate. Obviously you'd still need some food, water, and CO2 scrubbing, but a little less than otherwise.

Anonymous No. 16356333

>>16356227
I will bully you but I will also push this to page 10 ASAP. I told you I would have the stage covered retard there would be no /pol/ OP. It is a good OP though, so atleast you got that right. Next time try to make it more topical though, you couldve gone for something about the Shartliner sounds or F9 back in action or Starhopper on the move or the bumperpads on Mechazilla, just SOMETHING topical.

Anonymous No. 16356339

>>16356333
Nevermind, you forgot the previous link youre an absolute nigger that should an hero ASAP. We will be making a new thread at page 10.

Anonymous No. 16356347

>>16356339
remember to take a screenshot of the pagenumber as well

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Anonymous No. 16356348

What would a starliner OP about the recent ayys banging on the walls look like? Just the capsule as usual or should I include picrel instead

Anonymous No. 16356349

>>16356347
Of course, I always do that in my OPs almost no one else does it.

Anonymous No. 16356351

I maintain that staging at page 10 is gay and we should revolt against the jannies, this board is a shithole, who cares how many retarded threads we knock off. Early stager is a retard though who can't even do the most basic things of linking the last thread or the /sfg/ discord

Anonymous No. 16356353

>>16356351
Shut the fuck up you smooth brained lobotomite your method will get us sent straight to /trash/ where the general will die instantly from inactivity. And dont say that will never happen, too many generals on this site have had that exact same fate.

Anonymous No. 16356355

>>16356353
They can't stop all of us

Anonymous No. 16356358

>>16356355
Yes they can you stupid nigger they can rangeban, they can block keywords like "spaceflight" and "/sfg/", they can shut down the entire fucking board like they did to /qa/ if they decide our threads are cancerous enough. Fuck right off immediatly to whatever instant staging general you came from, probably /pol/ since thats where most generals that stage at bump limit are.

Anonymous No. 16356375

>>16356348
Nobody has replied so I'm assuming I can move ahead with this OP picture. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Anonymous No. 16356377

>We should be careful when to stage to not make too many redundant threads
>that's why I'm going to make a new /sfg/ along with the existing one
great logic

Anonymous No. 16356379

>>16356375
Some retard already made a new thread

Anonymous No. 16356380

>>16356379
early stage + no backlink
into the trash it goes

Anonymous No. 16356383

>>16356377
if it had a backlink it would be fine but this is too many fuckups

Anonymous No. 16356384

>>16356348
Das Boeing - Active Pings

Anonymous No. 16356387

>>16356379
>>16356377
It staged at page 9 and had no previous backlink. Multistaging technology exists only to enforce traditions of /sfg/ that self regulate the general so that we dont get banned off /sci/ like that other retards suggestion would get us and to keep a quality standard to OP making so that we dont devolve in to off topic OPs and further such the general.

Anonymous No. 16356390

>>16356387
>let's create multiple /sfg/ threads to please jannies

Anonymous No. 16356392

>>16356387
>so that we dont devolve in to off topic OPs
aka OPs that I personally don't like

Anonymous No. 16356396

>>16356392
I tolerated the trump OPs since that fucker had right of way on every point. Lines are drawn at fucked OPs and early staging

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Anonymous No. 16356397

STAGING

>>16356395
>>16356395
>>16356395
>>16356395
>>16356395

Anonymous No. 16356413

>>16356397
based

Anonymous No. 16356431

>>16355857
>Institutional memory doesn’t appear on a corporation’s books as an asset
That's included in goodwill.

Anonymous No. 16356441

>>16356226
>Finally, my time has come.
>say the English one but retracting the tip of the tongue from its original position over the lower incisors to halfway back in the mouth,
>try to think about it as though you were pronouncing it while having a cold or runny nose.
I'm not doing all that. Huemonkeys need to learn english
But seriously thanks for the interesting explanation

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Anonymous No. 16356467

>>16356174
monkeys can't into lockout-tagout procedures and left something armed while workers were present

Anonymous No. 16356482

>>16355996
>>16356000
https://x.com/esherifftv/status/1830372935779156252
doesn't seem that bad

Anonymous No. 16356535

>>16356028
Send up a midge wife and they can use a Gemini as a generation ship

Anonymous No. 16356615

>>16356535
lol. maybe if we had the tech from Honey i shrunk the kids