🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Sat, 5 Oct 2024 23:59:10 UTC No. 16411492
MAKE MARS GREAT AGAIN - edition
previous >>16409484
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:00:07 UTC No. 16411498
Totally not infected by /pol/ newfags
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:00:22 UTC No. 16411500
>>16411498
silence, mudfoot
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:01:45 UTC No. 16411504
>While oxygen tank number two on the Apollo 13 spacecraft was an accident waiting to happen, another problem on the Saturn V rocket could have destroyed Apollo 13 before it reached Earth orbit. During the second-stage boost, the center – or inboard — engine shut down two minutes early. The shutdown wasn’t a problem, as the other four engines were able to compensate for the loss by operating for an extra four minutes. But why the engine shut down is a mystery that may have saved the mission.
>“A catastrophic failure should have ensued,” said Apollo engineer Jerry Woodfill, “and would have, except for the unexplained behavior of the engine’s shutoff system. In fact, even the NASA Apollo 13 accident report fails to deal with the seriousness of the event.”
>When the center engine shut down, it caused a few moments of uneasiness for Mission Control and the crew. Speaking after the flight, Commander Jim Lovell said that when NASA gave them the OK to carry on with the flight, “We all breathed a sigh of relief on the spacecraft. Hey, that was our crisis over with and we thought we’d have a smooth flight from then on.”
>Woodfill said that the quick assessment in Mission Control was that a minor electrical signal failed to keep the engine operating so that it shut down prematurely. But that wasn’t the problem.
>What happened was the Saturn V rocket experienced dangerous so-called “pogo” thrust oscillations, a problem NASA knew about. While a fix had been planned for Apollo 14, time did not permit its implementation on Apollo 13’s Saturn V.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:03:15 UTC No. 16411507
Space Force Lunar guantanamo
1,000,000 pop Mars colony by 2050
Asteroid redirect, Destination Urf
Venusian cloud dwellers
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:04:41 UTC No. 16411509
I feel for the Europa clipper enjoyers who bought flights to Orlando not like this
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:06:49 UTC No. 16411510
>>16411492
CUP
RS
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:08:12 UTC No. 16411513
>>16411504
>The Apollo 6 mission carried a mock lunar lander of more modest mass than the “full-up” lander which Apollo 13 carried to orbit. With the added mass for Apollo 13, the pogo forces were suddenly a magnitude greater in intensity. A mission report said that the engine experienced 68g vibrations at 16 hertz, flexing the thrust frame by 3 inches (76 mm).
>Woodfill said that if the center engine had continued running a few more seconds, the oscillations may have destroyed the vehicle. “That engine was pounding horizontally up and down, a quarter foot, at the rate of 16 times a second,” he said. “The engine had become a two ton sledge hammer, a deadly pogo stick of destruction, putting enormous forces on the supporting structures.”
>“It is, to this day, not fully understood, but it had something to do with fooling the engine’s thrust chamber pressure sensor that pressure was too low,” said Woodfill. He has studied the mission report, but says the complete analysis of why the engine shut down isn’t included.
>“Though the shutdown command came from a low thrust chamber pressure sensor assessment, actually, the engine was operating correctly,” he said. ” The sensor had nothing to do with the pogo phenomenon. For some inexplicable reason, it was like something sucked the pressure out of the chamber and a sensor turned the engine off. But no one knows exactly why.”
>Woodfill said those who later examined the situation said it was altogether lucky that the sensor shut down the engine. “Something intervened, stopping the engine from pounding its way from the mount into the fragile fuel tanks. This would have destroyed the Apollo 13 launch vehicle.”
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:09:59 UTC No. 16411514
>>16411498
One candidate wants to enable Mars, the other wants to regulate SpaceX to death.
That's just the undeniable case.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:10:24 UTC No. 16411515
>>16411492
Hecking BASED!
Elon and Trump gonna win the White House!
These too BASED Zionists are gonna help Based Israel destroy Gaza, Lebanon AND Iran! America will be at war in the middle east for ANOTHER couple decades!
FUCKING BASED! I LOVE ZION DON AND ZION ELON! MAZEL BASED TOV!
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:10:56 UTC No. 16411516
>>16411498
>I hate mars/spacex
Fuck off troon. Go back to your safe space leddit
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:11:45 UTC No. 16411517
>>16411515
>Posts a canadian vtuber
What did he mean by this
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:14:02 UTC No. 16411521
>>16411495
I wish Gateway was good for something because the idea of a permanent deep space station is cool.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:14:17 UTC No. 16411522
>>16411517
>Posts the worst EN vtuber
Fixed.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:14:36 UTC No. 16411523
>>16411509
good for me as it means more days off from work
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:15:03 UTC No. 16411524
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:15:27 UTC No. 16411525
>>16411521
Gateway is actually a really bad design as a space station (it is literally not controllable with the RCS if Starship is docked) but PPE+HALO+robot arm+unpressurized sample storage+CRV is a pretty great setup for an NEA / Venus flyby cruiser.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:15:38 UTC No. 16411526
>>16411498
You can refuse to drink but you can't stop elon from taking us to water.
Btw guys I clearly need a different idiom for this
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:15:51 UTC No. 16411527
>>16411522
TRUE and REAL
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:16:53 UTC No. 16411529
>>16411521
Stick it at EML2 (or L1) instead and it can be of use as an industrial processing station.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:18:27 UTC No. 16411531
>>16411517
Making the case for Canadian annexation
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:18:33 UTC No. 16411532
>>16411515
That artist draws the best clocks.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:19:01 UTC No. 16411533
>>16411498
enjoy earth, faggot
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:19:38 UTC No. 16411534
>>16411532
How can you say that and then not post a single timepiece?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:20:14 UTC No. 16411535
>>16411526
You can lead a poster to new idioms but you can't... fuck
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:20:16 UTC No. 16411536
>>16411534
Kronii is a very fine piece.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:20:29 UTC No. 16411537
>>16411534
Let it go. SHES FUCKING GONE.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:20:54 UTC No. 16411538
>>16411526
You can bite Mitt Romney's hand but you're still getting locked in the dog cage on his car's roof?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:21:58 UTC No. 16411539
>>16411536
>>16411537
I legitimately have no idea what's going on.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:22:18 UTC No. 16411540
>>16411539
it's >>>/vt/ stuff
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:24:23 UTC No. 16411541
>>16411521
why not put one in orbit around Mars?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:28:49 UTC No. 16411545
>>16411537
but enough about ame
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:30:46 UTC No. 16411550
>>16411541
Starships are going to come in hot and aerobrake
A space station around mars in the early stages would be pointless, especially some cuckbox
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:31:18 UTC No. 16411551
>>16411515
Fed
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:32:00 UTC No. 16411552
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:32:02 UTC No. 16411553
>>16411550
If they're going for cargo landing in '26 they need to figure out landing real quick. Are cargo ships going to be closer in design to HLS Starship, with legs and landing engines placed up high? Otherwise how in the fuck will Starship land?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:35:23 UTC No. 16411555
prediction: the new heatshield will have more problems than the old one
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:35:34 UTC No. 16411556
>>16411498
We're going to gaan so much you're going to get tired of gaaning
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:37:24 UTC No. 16411557
Gaan status: We
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:38:02 UTC No. 16411558
>>16411498
erm uh... krystal, uhh... ula snipers.. uhhh cirno poster... errr... we gaaan..
ha ha u see..
im one of you guys...
i know the rocket equation btw
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:39:10 UTC No. 16411559
>>16411552
Based
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:42:03 UTC No. 16411561
>>16411541
Mars SOI is probably the least useful place in the solar system for electric propulsion because Starship can SSTO+Aerobrake+ISRU. SEP is king for NEA missions, Venus missions, and Mercury missions where the sunlight is strong and there's not enough CO2+ICE for methalox ISRU.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:42:12 UTC No. 16411562
>>16411513
>68g vibrations at 16 hertz, flexing the thrust frame by 3 inches
God's subwoofer.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:43:25 UTC No. 16411564
>>16411562
Lunar Dubstep
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:45:05 UTC No. 16411565
>>16411553
HLS is not applicable to Mars
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:53:58 UTC No. 16411576
>>16411565
Well then, how's a Starship gonna land on Mars
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:56:13 UTC No. 16411577
>>16411524
Astoundingly efficient means of regulatory capture.
Why pay lobbyists and spend decades lawcrafting behind the scenes when the President is personally asking you to help gut and reform regulatory agencies?
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:58:24 UTC No. 16411579
>>16411571
femboys are the earths of the universe then
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:58:40 UTC No. 16411580
>>16411576
normal starship plus legs
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:00:09 UTC No. 16411581
>>16411492
His transformation is COMPLETE
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:00:36 UTC No. 16411583
>>16411571
Yes and rogue planets are the sigmas
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:01:46 UTC No. 16411584
>>16411580
But, the mass penalty!
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:01:54 UTC No. 16411585
Do you think we'll encounter aliens in our lifetime? If so, what do you think they'll look like?
I'm not memeing, despite this pic. I thought of something: dolphins and sharks look basically the same, even though they aren't closely related. Dolphins are much closer genetically to humans, yet they look more like sharks because of the environment they live in.
Knowing that, if there was an Earth-like planet, would an intelligent species look more or less like a human? Being bipedal, two arms, a head with sensory organs?
What are your thoughts?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:02:47 UTC No. 16411586
FAA pls, gib loiscense, I'm more deprived than a sponge in the sahara
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:03:32 UTC No. 16411588
>>16411576
just like it lands on Urf, only a little slower
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:04:56 UTC No. 16411589
>>16411585
Crab creatures are the default nature form, otherwise whatever the fuck type of lizardmen the dinosaurs would've been
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:05:17 UTC No. 16411590
>>16411584
I guess we could just hope it doesnt tip
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:06:09 UTC No. 16411591
>>16411585
she looks like she fucks human men
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:06:48 UTC No. 16411592
>>16411585
I don't really think aliens exist, the statistics argument is far too hand wavy for me. The magnitude of things that need to go right for a self replicating system to evolve beyond basic chemistry is likely much higher than our best guesses. Not to mention the amount of places in the universe are outright hostile to life outweigh the places that aren't.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:08:49 UTC No. 16411595
>>16411588
>just like it lands on Urf
In the sea? On Mechazilla?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:09:27 UTC No. 16411597
>>16411585
Humanoid, with booba. Milk is the perfect food for high-brain-mass organisms. The more intelligent, the bigger the booba
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:10:17 UTC No. 16411598
>>16411577
I dont even think it's bribing at this point
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:11:33 UTC No. 16411600
>>16411585
No.
At most we might encounter some primitive microbal life on another planetoid in the solar system, most likely Mars. And the reason would be because of interplanetary pinball kicking bits of life around.
Ayylamos are just the modern version of fairy folk.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:11:34 UTC No. 16411601
>>16411591
Well she can't because she's not real. Clear, on the other hand, can be kidnapped and held in the 4ASS rape dungeon.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:13:21 UTC No. 16411604
>>16411595
on FAA
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:13:52 UTC No. 16411605
>>16411604
There is no FAA on Mars, and Godwilling there never will be.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:13:54 UTC No. 16411606
>>16411600
>>16411592
Based on what? Gut instinct?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:14:18 UTC No. 16411608
>>16411606
gut instinct is seldom wrong
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:15:20 UTC No. 16411609
>>16411604
Total FAA death
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:18:36 UTC No. 16411611
They gonna kill Elon if Trump gives him his DOGE position.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:30:14 UTC No. 16411623
>>16411558
Spanish is such a poetic language
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:33:08 UTC No. 16411626
>>16411608
But it's often misinterpreted
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:42:06 UTC No. 16411635
looks like he lost some weight
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:48:46 UTC No. 16411637
>>16411635
Mass autism strikes again
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:55:58 UTC No. 16411640
I can't sleep right now, seeing the LED street lamp has made me think of the outer solar system. How dark would it be for humans on Pluto? Would it be as dark as night under the pale moonlight? O
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 01:55:59 UTC No. 16411641
>>16411591
She does fuck human men (me)
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:00:08 UTC No. 16411644
>>16411641
Fucked your head, bro. Get some help.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:00:28 UTC No. 16411645
>>16411640
At noon on Pluto, it's brighter than the full moon on Earth. You'd be able to walk around and read just fine.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:02:49 UTC No. 16411647
>>16411644
From whom? My Krystal pillow?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:07:41 UTC No. 16411653
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:12:03 UTC No. 16411656
OH NO NO NO
>In a paper posted on the arXiv preprint server Sept. 30, a group of observational astronomers reported on observations of a set of 18 Qianfan, or “Thousand Sails,” satellites launched in August. The satellites are the first of a constellation that may ultimately consist of more than 14,000 satellites.
>The study found that the brightness of the satellites ranges from magnitude 8 when low in the sky to magnitude 4 when nearly overhead. That makes the satellites, at those higher elevations, bright enough to be seen by the naked eye — which can see objects down to magnitude 6 in dark skies — and well above the threshold of magnitude 7 recommended by professional astronomers it mitigate interference with major groundbased observatories.
>“Qianfan satellites are brighter than magnitude 6 except when observed at low elevations in the sky,” the astronomers note in the paper. “So, they will adversely impact professional and amateur astronomical activities unless the operators mitigate their brightness.”
https://spacenews.com/brightness-of
https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.20432
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:13:22 UTC No. 16411658
>>16411656
>“Humanity is clearly approaching an inflection point where we need to take action to preserve our sky as a window to explore the universe from Earth. Satellite companies are not interested in producing this unintended radiation, so minimizing it should also be a priority in their sustainable space policies,” said Federico Di Vruno, spectrum manager of the Square Kilometer Array Observatory and co-director of CPS, in a statement. “Starlink is not the only big player in LEO, but they have a chance to set the standard here.”
why is foust using the article to attack spacex? the headline is about chinese satellites but the article is mostly about starlink.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:17:21 UTC No. 16411660
>>16411658
>company in the west does something
>Nooo you can't do that!!!
>China does it worse
How many times does this need to happen before these retards get the picture
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:19:51 UTC No. 16411664
>>16411577
because the president is useless without congress
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:21:56 UTC No. 16411666
>>16411664
The President has this neat power called recission where he can just choose not to spend money and send it back to the Treasury. He can also instadelete regulations.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:23:45 UTC No. 16411667
>>16411660
There is no helping or teaching these people. I regularly encounter Chinese weed farmers who don't speak a lick of English, buy up cheap properties and just sell weed all day right in front of cops who give no shits. Probably CCP sponsored, probably lace some of that shit with fent. The only end for anti american cosmopolitans is to be ripped apart in the gutters of their own cities. Human spaceflight.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:24:40 UTC No. 16411668
>>16411662
whats lil milton gonna do?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:24:54 UTC No. 16411669
any studied at TUDelft? I read their programme in Aersopace Engineering is t3 in the world. I have the opportunity to go there next year, but it costs a many penny :|
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:27:15 UTC No. 16411672
>>16411668
delay europa clipper
sign more people up for free starlink
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:41:20 UTC No. 16411682
>>16411676
elon has some mickey mouse ass huge hands
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:41:44 UTC No. 16411683
>>16411676
>a payload of...
>say no more
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:48:08 UTC No. 16411688
>>16411656
>>16411658
Because he's in China's pocket book.
>American company does bad thing
>Anger
>Chinese company copies bad thing
>Anger pointed at America again, conspicuous silence about China
They're unironically traitors.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:48:17 UTC No. 16411689
>>16411686
naw bro is stuck in 2016 /pol/ mode
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:49:59 UTC No. 16411691
>>16411689
/pol/ was actually kind of fun in 2016 before endless tides of agitators, retards, and morons came in and started shrieking.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:53:27 UTC No. 16411693
>>16411689
He grew up in apartheid SA. He knows.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:55:35 UTC No. 16411694
>>16411683
honestly, how would you guys react if he invited Trump to Starbase for IFT-5? (assuming he wins)
It would probably be the final straw for liberal spacex fans
>>16411693
of course sbarky goons to blue archive lolis
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:57:10 UTC No. 16411697
Can I spoonfeed and ask for a vulcan GEM exploding webm? I want to show my family and make fun of ULA
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 02:59:21 UTC No. 16411700
>>16411694
>liberal spacex fans
If by liberal you mean TDSers and Democrats, there's no such thing at this point.
The American left is, at present, the true enemy of real progress in space flight.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:03:12 UTC No. 16411704
>>16411694
At this rate he will either be the POTUS or a retired former President when that happens. So I don't see what the big deal would be. Normal people don't have an existential crisis because a man is watching a rocket launch.
>>16411693
koharu what are you doing here
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:06:40 UTC No. 16411708
I wake up yet again with a hatred for it seems all federal agencies and all branches of government. Only the Space Force can stem this righteous anger.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:11:25 UTC No. 16411711
>>16411694
>liberal spacex fans
No such thing, they hate SpaceX, they hate Musk and they hate the SpaceX goals of Mars. Look at reddit's spacexlounge board, they banned or deleted any mention of the Mars 2026 announcement. Thats the leftists site and its infected with people shitting on Musk/SpaceX.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:22:18 UTC No. 16411717
>>16411711
>Thats the leftists site
Reddit is a wholly owned subsidiary of Mossad, the Newhouse brothers who inherited it from their father are the American counterparts of Robert Maxwell's offspring. Advance Publications has been linked to Mossad & the CIA going back to the 20th century when Si Newhouse was still around.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:23:14 UTC No. 16411719
>>16411640
About the same as just after sunset. NASA has a calculator for this
https://science.nasa.gov/dwarf-plan
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:24:00 UTC No. 16411721
>>16411711
But... all those cat subreddits...
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:25:18 UTC No. 16411723
>>16411721
Its all about Trump/right wing now
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:25:38 UTC No. 16411724
>>16411640
About like under the stadium lights of a football game at night. Perfectly fine to see by, but there's no warmth to it and no plants will grow.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:25:59 UTC No. 16411725
Elon sounds like a special kind of retard speaking right after Trump.
my god, I thought Trump was already retarded.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:28:13 UTC No. 16411728
>>16411711
Counterexample: Berger is 100% a liberal SpaceX fan.
But they're certainly few and far between these days.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:30:51 UTC No. 16411732
>>16411700
>>16411711
>>16411728
do you think liberal Spacex employees would tolerate a trump visit?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:31:27 UTC No. 16411734
>>16411728
As space reporters go, Berger is fairly objective. But he still cracks with his inability to understand why Musk bought twitter and think its a bad decision. He cant see how its literally putting Musk in close proximity to the most powerful person in the world(if Trump wins) and plows through the beurocracy nonsesense, strategically speaking.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:32:41 UTC No. 16411737
>>16411732
>kate won an emmy
wtf for what
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:33:15 UTC No. 16411738
>>16411737
For some spacex thing, not sure which one. I think it was commercial crew or someting
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:33:52 UTC No. 16411740
elon getting the nobel peace prize
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:35:18 UTC No. 16411742
>>16411740
For saving ukraine
For saving NC
For electric vehicles
For commercial space industry
I mean in terms of effective philanthropy, the guy is doing so many.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:41:14 UTC No. 16411749
>>16411711
>a place for relaxed and laid-back discussion.
>No jokes/memes
Why do people read this and not immediately 180 the fuck out
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:41:22 UTC No. 16411751
>>16411745
I wonder if the leftists will continue to seethe as Musk sends Starship to mars with Trump clapping in the background shot
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:44:24 UTC No. 16411756
>>16411498
>>16411538
If these are the same person, it explains a lot.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:45:28 UTC No. 16411758
>>16411751
>I wonder if the leftists will continue to seethe
i can already see the riots and legislation getting drafted to stop it
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 03:47:26 UTC No. 16411762
>>16411758
More , I'm talking about the so called "space enthusiasts" who dont want to acknowledge the Mars ambition o the Musk/Trump's political declaration. If trump wins, the chance of Musk achieving his goal increases from 30% to 90%.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:03:42 UTC No. 16411773
>>16411762
I hope Elon thanks Trump and says it couldn't have happened without him when the first Americans walk on Mars. It will break so many brains.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:07:50 UTC No. 16411777
>>16411773
He will. Elon is pretty humble and has no problem giving thanks where due.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:10:12 UTC No. 16411780
>>16411777
He thanked Butigeg when they worked together to fix the problem of airspace being shutdown/starlinks being confiscated. He's practical/humble when need be but also also practical/forceful when need be as well.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:10:50 UTC No. 16411781
>>16411777
checked
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:19:15 UTC No. 16411784
>>16411745
What's the analog of this
Let's say I just really loved the fuck out of a green energy and followed wind and solar technology religiously. Then a big CEO endorses a certain political party. Am I supposed to be torn apart by this, WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR? lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:20:08 UTC No. 16411785
>>16411784
There's actually bipartisan support for solar and nuclear now. Kill the windmills, save the whales.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:20:33 UTC No. 16411786
Starship once again being restacked.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:22:09 UTC No. 16411787
>>16411785
Democrats hate nuclear because it doesn't solve inequality. They hate solar panels on homes because their donors (Warren Buffet) runs coal plants and wants solar panels on homes banned in his states.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:23:37 UTC No. 16411788
>>16411786
don't care unless it has FTS installed
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:23:48 UTC No. 16411789
>>16411787
>because it doesn't solve inequality
They hate nuclear because it doesn't give them a crisis to continue the push to install communism.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:27:29 UTC No. 16411794
>>16411756
Its not I posted fp and have been lurking since. Making that clear though here.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:37:39 UTC No. 16411798
>>16411786
don't care unless van zanten is piloting
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:38:20 UTC No. 16411799
>>16411788
NOTAM already released. L2 says Oct 13th is a certainty. Quit being a doomer
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:39:29 UTC No. 16411800
>>16411640
you're very lucky anon, nasa has an entire website to answer this question
https://science.nasa.gov/dwarf-plan
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:39:54 UTC No. 16411801
>>16411798
Something strange about the mission commander... can't quite make out his face
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:45:11 UTC No. 16411807
>>16411799
cope chud
you have no FAA license
although launching on a weekend would be kino since I wouldn't miss it due to work
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:45:17 UTC No. 16411808
>>16411801
FTS wont be necessary in that case
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:49:12 UTC No. 16411810
>>16411807
Shut the fuck up retard. FAA license will drop two days before you idiot
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:51:08 UTC No. 16411811
>>16411694
>honestly, how would you guys react if he invited Trump to Starbase for IFT-5? (assuming he wins)
Almost a given, might have imvited him already
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:52:56 UTC No. 16411812
>>16411694
>honestly, how would you guys react if he invited Trump to Starbase for IFT-5? (assuming he wins)
Not important enough imo. Whats important is when it launches to Mars in 2026 (assuming Trump puts a guy who greenlights SpaceX on FAA admin). Then SpaceX will go BRRRRRRRRRRR
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 04:53:16 UTC No. 16411813
OFT-5 is launching October 15
Oct
F silent
Tober
-1
5 5
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:19:29 UTC No. 16411826
>>16411825
all womxn are bisexual so yeah
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:21:48 UTC No. 16411828
>>16411662
Blue Origin gulf climate seeding project designed to disrupt SpaceX florida operations Mk1
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:26:07 UTC No. 16411830
>>16411780
>practical/humble when need be but also also practical/forceful when need be as well
would you say... Elon has mastered... the art of the deal?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:29:39 UTC No. 16411834
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richar
>Breaking Down Elon Musk's Big Beef With The FAA
>Oct 1, 2024
>“He needs to resign,” Musk wrote last week on X, the social platform he owns.
>Musk called out Whitaker for alleged inaccuracies the administrator made about SpaceX during an unrelated hearing the day before, where he defended delays the FAA imposed on an upcoming SpaceX Starship launch.
"""alleged"""
>The FAA had licensed the launch for later in November, months after SpaceX’s desired mid-September timeframe.
They had not and have not licensed anything yet
>Whitaker said the delay had to do with permitting laws and an environmental analysis around sonic booms, which the launch could create when it attempts to return the rocket booster to earth — a first for space flight
A first for ... what? A least pretend to know about the subject matter. You don't hate them enough.
>It’s generally a bad idea to feud with regulators who “could make life miserable,” said Harry Kraemer, a professor of management and leadership at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management. “It’s the last thing a company really ought to be doing. You’re asking for a headache,” said Kraemer. Musk persists, he added, because of his “ego.” “He doesn’t think the rules apply to him.”
Don't feud with the agency making things miserable because they might make it miserable some more? And pay no attention to BO doing the same thing mentioned in literally the next paragraph.
>“We don’t need another bully like Boeing,” he said. “It’s time for the FAA to do its job. It hasn’t in the past, particularly as it has pertained to Boeing.” — Jim Hall, former chairman of the NTSB
So the solution is a regulatory crackdown on SpaceX.
Picrel is from a different article about how the FCC suddenly decided orbital debris should be regulated by them and their ongoing attempts to expand their regulation of that domain.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:32:50 UTC No. 16411835
>Go to mars
>Stand around not doing much for a few days
>Go home
That'll be $1,000,000,000,000 + tip
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:35:47 UTC No. 16411836
>>16411662
>161.9kt
Potential Atlantic basin record or a tie depending on how NHC rounded it.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:37:06 UTC No. 16411837
>>16411834
>>It’s generally a bad idea to feud with regulators who “could make life miserable,” said Harry Kraemer, a professor of management and leadership at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management. “It’s the last thing a company really ought to be doing. You’re asking for a headache,” said Kraemer. Musk persists, he added, because of his “ego.” “He doesn’t think the rules apply to him.”
Communists believe you should fear the government. Free people believe government should fear the people. The government serves the people, and not the other way around.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:43:13 UTC No. 16411841
>>16411837
>>“He doesn’t think the rules apply to him.”
This is such lazy and predictible thinking. The rules are literally made up on the spot half the time and often serve no purpose. Congress isn't even sure what the rules should be and the regulatory framework itself is experimental. The FAA was instructed to use a light touch. The FAA was instructed to streamline the regulatory process. They did just the opposite.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:44:44 UTC No. 16411844
>>16411835
I will stay on mars and instead gift a nice big rock back to Earth
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:47:11 UTC No. 16411846
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:48:14 UTC No. 16411847
>>16411835
If I'm going to mars, I'm dying on mars. Fuck going back to earth.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:49:22 UTC No. 16411849
>>16411844
SpaceX should bring a huge slab of Mars rock back, seal it in glass, and gift it to the White House as the President's new desk. It would make the most ornate throne look like cheap overcompensation.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:51:27 UTC No. 16411851
How over is spacex when trump doesn't win?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:52:16 UTC No. 16411852
>>16411849
Tuned mass damper at the top of future Musk tower.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:52:18 UTC No. 16411853
>>16411851
The dems need spacex to continue the ukraine war
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 05:56:09 UTC No. 16411855
>>16411849
That would be based
>>16411846
I love this image. You can tell someone is a real human or not by asking them their opinion on mountains. Or ships.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:03:07 UTC No. 16411859
>>16411852
That too. Mars has lots of rocks.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:05:02 UTC No. 16411860
just for clarity, can sfg please compile a list of FAA officials that need to be eliminated?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:05:08 UTC No. 16411861
>>16411851
DoD, NRO and their underlying agencies aren't going to go back to the old days of a couple ULA launches per year. There's a major paradigm shift already underway due to the greatly increased cadence and lower costs. Somewhere right now future NROL payloads designed for Starship are being designed, budgeted and built.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:05:35 UTC No. 16411862
>>16411732
>On September 14th, SpaceX and NASA received the 2019 Emmy Award for Outstanding Interactive Program, honoring their combined video, social media, and interactive coverage of Crew Dragon’s inaugural launch, orbital rendezvous, docking, undocking, reentry, and splashdown – a true tour-de-force.
She was on the team that won a collective Emmy. Though a trained engineer, she works primarily as a science communicator for SpaceX, and it was in that role that the Emmy was won by the team.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:10:47 UTC No. 16411864
>>16411784
People used to get over this type of thing after the initial outrage. The Florida Citrus Growers endured boycotts when they hired Anita Bryant and later Rush Limbaugh as commercial endorsers of Florida orange juice. But that was in the pre-social media days and now angry activists can keep outrage over something rumbling at a low level indefinitely. Those who hate Musk for not being the Real Life Tony Stark they thought him to be will continue to whine and most of society will just ignore them.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:19:50 UTC No. 16411868
>>16411863
>Computer, freeze programme. Age wife down. Resume programme.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:26:26 UTC No. 16411869
>>16411864
He is real life Tony Stark though. They just don't get they're the bad guys.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:48:53 UTC No. 16411880
>>16411585
There are no aliens.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:51:43 UTC No. 16411883
>>16411851
It will become completely a REDGOV asset as that will be the only path of survival for all of elon's companies
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:52:11 UTC No. 16411884
>>16411835
Actually it's just a few billions at most
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:59:11 UTC No. 16411886
>>16411884
1000 of them or so
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:59:34 UTC No. 16411887
>>16411851
We'll just end up living in the timeline where there's actually competition between America and other space powers as opposed to America totally dominating everyone and making all the rest irrelevant.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:59:58 UTC No. 16411888
>>16411740
they give that award to people who drop bombs (Obama), not people who work for actual peace (Dennis Rodman)
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:03:43 UTC No. 16411890
>>16411552
thrust to weight was so small omg, look how slow it lifted off
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:14:41 UTC No. 16411896
>>16411890
There's a reason every post Apollo SHLLV proposal started with strapping solids to the first stage. The SSME, Merlin, and Raptor have really spoiled us for first stage TWR.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:15:46 UTC No. 16411897
>>16411896
lmao imagine the absolute G if they stuck with the SRB first stage
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:29:51 UTC No. 16411904
>>16411890
It just wobbled into the air, I thought it wasn't going to make it
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:33:43 UTC No. 16411909
Penis cobbler! Stinkus slobber :)
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:40:26 UTC No. 16411917
>>16411909
go back to bed Tory
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:50:00 UTC No. 16411926
>"elon is the only reason why america can still send people into space"
how many spacefags chimped out at this
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:51:53 UTC No. 16411930
>>16411926
probably a lot fewer than before shartliner stranded crew on the ISS
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 08:00:14 UTC No. 16411937
>>16411917
A cowpoke never reveals his secrets, folks
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 08:44:40 UTC No. 16411971
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 08:47:48 UTC No. 16411973
>>16411662
>HAFS-B changed it's mind and now agrees with HAFS-A
>887mb
>167.5kt
it's over
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 08:48:52 UTC No. 16411975
>>16411445
>>16411449
here you go guys
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 08:57:41 UTC No. 16411983
>>16411849
yes
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 08:59:32 UTC No. 16411985
>>16411975
now make lightning shoot from his hands
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:00:23 UTC No. 16411987
>>16411975
the FAA in shambles
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:11:42 UTC No. 16411997
>>16411975
the suit blowing backwards slightly adds perfectly to the idea that he's landing with some forward momentum.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:18:05 UTC No. 16412002
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:21:41 UTC No. 16412006
https://youtu.be/0sdTt0IA4u0?si=enK
timestamp where trump talks about musk a bit
25min
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:27:37 UTC No. 16412009
>>16412002
>filename
KEK
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:39:06 UTC No. 16412016
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:40:42 UTC No. 16412017
>>16412006
https://youtu.be/0sdTt0IA4u0?si=sf6
starts to talk about space exploration at the timestamp (56:57)
>we will lead the world in space exploration
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:52:45 UTC No. 16412026
https://x.com/thejackbeyer/status/1
>Booster 11’s Aft Dome was moved from the Port of Brownsville to the Massey Outpost this evening. That… was something special.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:53:07 UTC No. 16412027
>>16411786
"I am once again asking for your FAA support"
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:56:36 UTC No. 16412031
>>16412028
lmaaoooo
imagine the seething when they start deleting sections of agencies, so many paper pushers are going to get sacked
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:57:16 UTC No. 16412033
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 09:59:21 UTC No. 16412037
Are we back?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:01:42 UTC No. 16412038
>>16412037
If I had to guess this is just to apply pressure on the FAA
they don't want a successful booster catch before the election
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:17:10 UTC No. 16412049
>>16412048
>When you see a Raptor upskirt
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:27:45 UTC No. 16412057
>>16411526
You can lead an earther to space, but you can't make him stop being a goddamn earther.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:28:20 UTC No. 16412058
>>16412053
You got that from twitter
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:29:39 UTC No. 16412059
>ctrl f: Trump
mods can we kick out these /pol/tards?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:33:17 UTC No. 16412061
>>16411513
>>16411504
Two explanations:
>violent shaking of the engine caused low pressure areas to form in the combustion chamber, just like "the beer bottle trick".
>Divine intervention, probably by Apollo himself.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:40:17 UTC No. 16412065
>>16411837
>he thinks the rules don't apply to him
>he shouldn't feud with government regulators because they will invent, bend and break the rules to ruin your life if you don't genuflect to them
These two sentiments, simultaneously expressed, reveal a statist authoritarian.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:55:12 UTC No. 16412075
>>16412072
retarded
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:00:06 UTC No. 16412080
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:01:24 UTC No. 16412082
>>16412080
shitty normalfag-tier label meme, kys.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:02:55 UTC No. 16412084
>>16412083
this one is slightly better.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:13:42 UTC No. 16412096
>>16412088
i would decouple that hotstage if you know what i mean.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:15:09 UTC No. 16412097
>>16412096
We got loads of megastructures out of them. You should be happy with what we gained for OUR years.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:16:00 UTC No. 16412098
>>16412083
I'm tired of frogs, what would a Spurdo shoop look like?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:17:12 UTC No. 16412099
Page 1 discourse is always so shit. We need our own board
>>16411835
Newfag
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:30:24 UTC No. 16412104
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:37:14 UTC No. 16412109
>>16411492
Why can't we have moon racing, /sigh/?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:47:29 UTC No. 16412113
>>16412099
If you make a habit of sage posting, it at least keeps your own posts from bumping the thread back to the top of the first page, keeping it out of view from the rabble.
It won't hurt the thread, because most people don't even know what sage is, much less how it works, so it gets plenty bumped.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:51:10 UTC No. 16412117
>>16411581
Punished Elon, a man denied his launches.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:57:40 UTC No. 16412121
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:59:02 UTC No. 16412122
>>16412108
Aha
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:00:03 UTC No. 16412124
>>16412122
You do, as aforementioned. Attributes to emotional intellect.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:05:38 UTC No. 16412131
>>16412124
All that
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:09:05 UTC No. 16412133
>>16412124
is this a bot
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:10:27 UTC No. 16412135
>>16412104
The second tower impact reflected in its eyes is a nice touch.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:12:11 UTC No. 16412136
>>16412133
Is this a faggot?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:24:27 UTC No. 16412140
>>16412136
No, this is Patrick
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:32:57 UTC No. 16412144
>>16412059
Yes, once they become irrelevant due to the FAA and the current administration being stripped of their ability to hamper spaceflight, the topic of this thread. Until then, it's on topic.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:36:05 UTC No. 16412146
>>16412025
>Hurricanes hitting Florida is a rare event
They really believe the universe flashed into existence the moment they gained consciousness.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:45:21 UTC No. 16412149
>>16411851
the USG wants space-based interceptors by the 2030s so that basically means funding Starship development using the military budget.
Both Kamala and the Don will fund it.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:57:09 UTC No. 16412154
>>16412146
For the west coast. Hurricanes don’t usually form in the gulf and then move east.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:59:29 UTC No. 16412158
>>16412148
Not the worst photo of him, desu.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:17:57 UTC No. 16412169
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:19:38 UTC No. 16412173
>>16412148
Have you already forgotten about the weed smoke and shirtless pics?
This is nothing.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:32:04 UTC No. 16412184
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:34:20 UTC No. 16412186
>>16412179
He is so fucking autistic lmao. He just instinctively looks down during handshakes, but manually looks up. He literally can not stop his head from pointing down during a handshake or fistbump or something. There's a lot of videos in more casual situations where he does this. He's literally me
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:36:57 UTC No. 16412195
imagine voting for a fucking TV star just so some other guy can get """his""" rockets to another (useless) planet
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:38:57 UTC No. 16412198
>>16412195
Imagine a faggot free sci, where posts like your didn't exist, and you as a person never visited sci
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:39:59 UTC No. 16412199
>>16412195
still beats voting for the alternative lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:41:09 UTC No. 16412203
>>16412179
I think this is just some weird thing he does
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:42:10 UTC No. 16412205
>>16412195
seething faggot kys
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:48:33 UTC No. 16412214
>>16412195
I don't have to imagine it
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:49:22 UTC No. 16412216
god i wish i was a rocket
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:52:19 UTC No. 16412220
>>16412148
>Be autistic
>effortlessly mog 3 industries full of supposed competent normal people
Autism is just the next stage of humanity, normie cattle will be purged.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:52:57 UTC No. 16412221
>>16412198
NTA but
>>16412198
>imagine me using 4chan as a safe space
There is this website called "reddit" (I bet you have visited it regularly) where you can start your own subforum as a safe space. Try it (and stay there, faggot)
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:53:32 UTC No. 16412222
>>16412220
name the third
starlink doesnt count as its just an extension of spacex
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:55:27 UTC No. 16412226
>>16412222
Space, Electric cars, neural implants
>but it been dun
Yeah but fuckers we're too lazy to move the tech and inch in 20 years
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:57:11 UTC No. 16412228
>>16412226
neural implants are a meme
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:59:51 UTC No. 16412229
>>16412228
Just like electric cars and reusable rockets.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:01:31 UTC No. 16412230
>>16412195
Whats funny to me is that chuds think trump winning is gonna change something about the current state of starship
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:01:32 UTC No. 16412231
>>16412229
i will literally hack ur mind and turn you gay
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:02:39 UTC No. 16412233
>>16412230
Federal agencies are slowing it down, this is not complicated
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:03:23 UTC No. 16412234
>>16412233
federal agencies have discretion and bureaucracies
the POTUS can't change that if they disagree
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:05:22 UTC No. 16412235
>>16412234
homo. Talk about the fed talk about the Jewish
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:09:58 UTC No. 16412237
>>16412234
Their heads are appointed by the president and anything beyond actual law passed by Congress is enforced at their discretion. Starship progress is determined by the president.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:11:51 UTC No. 16412240
>>16412231
You cant hack me I'm behind several proxies and have Shrub installed.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:12:05 UTC No. 16412241
>>16411658
Astroniggers should be thinking about how to build telescopes in space, but like every other academic they can't survive without engaging in petty squabbles and turf wars that commit them to championing the merits of a single approach, no matter how stupid it is.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:13:17 UTC No. 16412243
>>16412237
they can just ignore their head for years
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:19:34 UTC No. 16412254
>>16412243
if they ignore it then the head and congress can start making progress, or they can circumvent the FAA alltogether by citing national secuirty or whatever with a executive order or something similar
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:23:43 UTC No. 16412258
>>16412246
There won't be one.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:28:26 UTC No. 16412263
In actual news, reports that FAA has cleared F9 for RTF tomorrow
https://x.com/Free_Space/status/184
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/184
>Next weather briefing for launch of SpaceX Falcon 9 with ESA Hera asteroid probe is 5:30 pm today. ESA PAO says they've been told by SpaceX that FAA has cleared SpaceX for launch of Hera. Awaiting confirmation from FAA on that. (Or did did I miss that @jeff_foust? )
>I've heard the same about FAA approval, but nothing official from SpaceX or FAA. They're really trying for a launch Monday, since that may be the last opportunity for a while.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:28:40 UTC No. 16412264
>>16412258
>oh my god 17 year olds with parental consent were flown out to a billionaires private island
what
horrors
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:29:40 UTC No. 16412268
by the way a knocked up 14 year old with a 30 year old druggie boyfriend ? No big deal in modern America, she should totally be allowed to get abortions no questions asked
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:29:53 UTC No. 16412269
>>16412241
Total astronomer death
They're the same people that think putting a multibillion dollar car roover on Mars every few decades to take pictures is fine
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:30:04 UTC No. 16412271
>>16412059
Sure, just vote for Trump so we can have spaceflight again, faggot.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:30:52 UTC No. 16412273
>>16412258
Any words or images posted without a source are assumed to be fake until proven otherwise.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:31:05 UTC No. 16412274
>>16412069
kek
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:32:39 UTC No. 16412276
>>16412104
It's perfect
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:35:10 UTC No. 16412280
>>16412195
Imagine buying a rope and hanging yourself, then go do it
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:36:40 UTC No. 16412282
>>16412221
>you have to worship retarded opinions
No, die.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:40:34 UTC No. 16412285
>>16412221
Free speech doesn't mean all ideas are equally good. The value of free speech comes from being able to adopt good ideas and discard bad ideas, so free speech without criticism and evaluation is worthless.
On 4chan, this criticism takes the form of bullying retarded faggots such as yourself.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:41:35 UTC No. 16412287
>>16412230
Yes
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:45:50 UTC No. 16412291
>>16412278
Ok got some additional information
This is a specific waiver for Hera, the investigation is in its final part, NASA already accepted the results so gave the go-ahead for Europa Clipper. BUT it's still not finished for commercial and starlink mission.
However given NASA's requirement for no F9 launch around Clipper, and the current solar storm, this probably isn't a problem for Oneweb and Starlink.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:46:56 UTC No. 16412292
>Declare Starship as national defense critical (it is)
>testing occurs at rate of development
>China and Russia humiliated and btfo
The problem is half the media/congress/academia are Chinese shill traitors
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:59:05 UTC No. 16412301
>>16412292
The dick riding levels are off the charts
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:02:15 UTC No. 16412303
>>16412277
Such a sperg lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:03:30 UTC No. 16412307
>>16412291
waiver for Hera and Clipper only is bollocks, what's different compared to Starlink?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:07:22 UTC No. 16412310
>>16412071
nominal
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:08:11 UTC No. 16412311
>>16412291
Alright confirmed
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/184
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/184
>From the FAA: "The SpaceX Falcon 9 vehicle is authorized to return to flight only for the planned Hera mission scheduled to launch on Oct. 7 from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. The FAA has determined that the absence of a second stage reentry for this mission adequately mitigates the primary risk to the public in the event of a reoccurrence of the mishap experienced with the Crew-9 mission.
>Safety will drive the timeline for the FAA to complete its review of SpaceX’s Crew-9 mishap investigation report and when the agency will authorize Falcon 9 to return to regular operations."
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:08:47 UTC No. 16412313
>>16412292
This absolutely is the solution. Along with cancelling SLS, overpriced NASA shit missions, and several other Artemis projects that are dumb. Artemis will continue, but hugely restructured, and NASA needs it too.
The question is, to what extent does the president have power?
Is it a commander in chief thing, declaring it somewhat militarized? How to stop the greedy equitable jobs program senators? They are wasting all of the budget.
There are plenty of real "experts" who will testify in front of congress, what is indeed stupid, slow, overpriced, risky, and just a bad idea. So Elon as D.O.G.E. has some backing here
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:09:51 UTC No. 16412316
>>16412307
politics I guess, you could argue that Hera and Clipper have launch windows they need to hit which could delay them for years if they miss
a few weeks for starlink would not cause similar delays
but the fact that NASA is allowed to risk a launch while an investigation is still not finished and SpaceX can't seems to be just politics
can't SpaceX make their own risk assessment too? What makes NASA more competent in this manner compared to SpaceX? I would argue SpaceX is the most competent and knowledgeable actor with respect to this, easily
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:10:42 UTC No. 16412317
>>16412310
working as intended
nominal
just swamp gasses
you didn't see it
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:10:51 UTC No. 16412319
>>16412310
lmaoo
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:13:56 UTC No. 16412320
>>16412313
congress has the power of the purse, so they actual decide the budget
the admin needs to have congress on their side too and with everything its always about compromises and political capital
not sure how much certain congressmen want SLS pork train to continue but I would guess for some its something like their top priority as many of their constituents rely on the jobs or jobs that flow from them
SLS doesn't need to be cancelled, Starship just needs to be allowed to fly (though it would be good if it was cancelled, the actual politics going on is a bit opaque)
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:15:28 UTC No. 16412322
>>16412310
observed
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:16:18 UTC No. 16412324
>>16412311
NASA is already ok to launch $5 billion spacecraft on Falcon 9, but FAA still "investigation" lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:16:31 UTC No. 16412325
>>16412310
The video's reflection in its eyes is priceless
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:20:37 UTC No. 16412329
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:21:08 UTC No. 16412331
>>16412099
>It'll only cost 10 billion dollars according to elon's fantasy projections
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:22:18 UTC No. 16412332
>>16412327
>white male democrat hates his country and his people
what else is knew
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:23:26 UTC No. 16412334
>>16412329
>soros
antisemitic conspiracy theory
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:24:01 UTC No. 16412335
>>16412329
>He gets billions in contracts!
Yeah that's how companies work, you give them a contract and they deliver the product you asked for? What is this bald faggot raging about? What "tax cuts for billionaires"? I think that's just a thing his ilk say, there's no actual meat to the statement.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:24:22 UTC No. 16412336
>>16412327
>former astronaut
and big leftie lapdog
>Dana Bash
so basically this is outright propaganda
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:24:53 UTC No. 16412338
>>16412334
what do you mean? they are openly donating
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:25:55 UTC No. 16412340
>>16412335
gets the uninformed retards riled up when you bring up billionaires
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:26:34 UTC No. 16412341
>>16412331
We know raptor cost, we know ship cost, we know starlink revenue. You don't know any of that because you're a newfag
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:28:58 UTC No. 16412347
>>16412320
Then fuck Artemis, Elon should do the minimum already signed for, then decline bidding on future projects for NASA.
Go to Mars, and go it alone. Fuck the US government if they're doing this shit, NASA will never fund it, the military could, but even that is sketchy and would come with too many unacceptable conditions.
Just clear the bullshit hurdles via Trump, get critical mass infrastructure really quickly, leading to offshore platforms, then abandon the US government later on, if hostile administrations replace Trump. (they will)
The advanced tech products people want, like Starlink and commercial launches, will provide the money, fuck depending on governments or wall street Jews. Nothing ever gets done.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:29:23 UTC No. 16412348
>>16412345
Intelligent rocks
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:31:05 UTC No. 16412350
>>16412246
In just 2 years he aged like shit
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:31:16 UTC No. 16412351
>>16412348
I'm pretty sure they're slower and have less maneuverability than ground systems
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:31:37 UTC No. 16412352
>>16412148
Wow, i'm going to vote for kamila now.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:31:57 UTC No. 16412353
ITT: eternal seething from alt-right redditors
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:32:13 UTC No. 16412354
>if the democrats win I'll go to prison
>If the democrats win it's the end of democracy
>If the democrats win they fuck your dog and kill your wife
Has anyone told Musk that there is currently a Democratic administration in the whitehouse?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:33:07 UTC No. 16412357
>>16412354
>>16412353
Take a hike, space-hater.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:34:57 UTC No. 16412359
>>16412327
I've heard that most astronauts absolutely hate 'lesser qualified' people getting into it, and want to keep it as their own little club for eternity
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:35:01 UTC No. 16412360
>>16412347
yeah sooner or later some hostile obstructionist government will probably come again, even if Musks government efficiency commision gets something done
they will just cut out the rot, but it will come back gradually
that is just something that happens to bureucracies, not sure you could design a system that is somehow self-cleaning perhaps
but the same bureucratic rot happens to big companies too, they just get disrupted at some point by new startups
but nation state governments disruption is much less unpleasant usually
war or revolution or perhaps rarely some widespread reformations
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:35:03 UTC No. 16412361
>>16412357
>you HATE space if you don't support my side
Is there a biggest proof than this, that Americans are mentally ill and brainwashed?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:35:28 UTC No. 16412362
>>16412341
Should be easy for elon to do himself then right?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:37:30 UTC No. 16412363
>>16412354
>the democrats are currently jailing their political opponents, but they want to jail more
>the democrats have political machine controled one-party in rule is some but not all of the country, and they want to expand this
>the AFT will kill (although not fuck) your dog and they're currently doing everything they can to kill Americans in the Carolinas
Tell me, when I ask you to imagine an apple, what happens in your head?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:37:54 UTC No. 16412365
>>16412361
Yes but unironically, if you don't support dissolution of worthless modern governments and formation of colonial space states you don't support spaceflight and also guzzle cum.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:38:40 UTC No. 16412366
>>16412362
yes and he will if he has to
the government just needs to get the fuck out of the way
the fact that you don't know this means you are completely ignorant of the issue
at this point over half of the revenue that SpaceX gets is from Starlink and its growing very rapidly
SpaceX will be able to self-fund the mars missions with Starlink revenue and later if its necessary, Musk can divest from his other companies (or when they are mature enough like Tesla in a decade or something, pay dividends which Musk could then funnel into the colony)
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:39:41 UTC No. 16412367
>>16412365
>yes but random non-sequitur and more FUD
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:39:53 UTC No. 16412368
>>16412361
Your words are worthless and wasted.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:40:10 UTC No. 16412369
>>16412354
>there is currently a Democratic administration in the whitehouse
Yeah, and it's been fucking terrible for space
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:40:58 UTC No. 16412371
>>16412360
Musk's private efficiency program is negotiating the largest payment package in history by lying to the board of directors and shareholders, paying millions to settle sexual harassment claims, posting D.o.G.E. memes to suck up to Trump and lying about hurricane Helene.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:41:10 UTC No. 16412372
>>16412367
No it's just kind of an ironclad argument you should already understand if you've read any books about modern power structures or near futures outcomes.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:41:48 UTC No. 16412373
>>16412362
He is you utter moron. You're clearly a newfag, you don't have the slightest idea what's going on here. What could compel someone wholly ignorant on a subject to argue about it? Lurk and learn or fuck off
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:43:13 UTC No. 16412377
>>16412329
>supporter has a conflict of interest
Wow. And there mark kelly was, in the womb of the ISS floating in the vastness of space when it just came to him.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:43:28 UTC No. 16412378
>>16412371
lying? he fucking 10x the value of the company and 10x the revenue, the package was earned
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:43:34 UTC No. 16412381
/sfg/ - Seething Faggots General
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:44:43 UTC No. 16412382
>>16412378
Stop sputtering, sperg.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:47:00 UTC No. 16412383
>>16412382
you need to go and stay go
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:51:15 UTC No. 16412394
>>16411541
If you want an orbital base, Phobos is right there with regolith to cover the hab from radiation and possibly water to mine
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:52:50 UTC No. 16412397
trump wants to do star wars? chances of this happening?
Trump proposes reviving Reagan-era ‘Star Wars’ missile defense program
>Speaking at a rally in Laconia, New Hampshire, Trump promised to build a “state-of-the-art missile defense system” that would cover the entirety of the United States, dubbing it America’s own “Iron Dome.” Adding credence to his proposal, he brought up the famous “Star Wars” missile defense program touted by former President Ronald Reagan, which was scrapped due to the technology being out of reach.
>“You know, Reagan proposed that many years ago, Star Wars,” he continued. “He proposed it many, many years ago. But at that time, there was no technology. It was just, like, it looked good. But we have unbelievable technology. We should have them.”
>The system Trump had in mind was known as the Strategic Defense Initiative, nicknamed “Star Wars” after the popular movie at the time, developed in 1984 at the height of the Cold War. The system would be based in space and use lasers to shoot down Soviet nuclear ballistic missiles before they could plunge back down to Earth.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:54:06 UTC No. 16412401
>>16412310
amazing work
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:56:51 UTC No. 16412404
>>16411684
#Mongs4Mars
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:56:51 UTC No. 16412405
>>16412397
>Laconia, NH
Uhh bros
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 15:58:37 UTC No. 16412410
>>16412354
yeah, and every day is worse than the last
maybe you didn't notice but they've stopped all meaningful progress in spaceflight
p.s. neck yourself
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:00:45 UTC No. 16412417
>>16412412
Don't do reentry burn then. The chinks don't do that either.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:01:30 UTC No. 16412419
Chances of skilled non Americans being allowed on Mars? Take me with you bros
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:02:36 UTC No. 16412422
>>16412419
Only if you're female and pass certain criteria
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:03:20 UTC No. 16412424
>>16412412
Dismantle the FAA and scatter their employees over the sea as chum for sharks.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:08:12 UTC No. 16412428
>>16412397
Based.
>>16412405
It's a nice town.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:13:01 UTC No. 16412433
>>16412410
Yep, SpaceX were blocked from the HLS contract under the Democrats and Starship was cancelled.
Only with an automobile tariff exemption for Tesla from President Donald Trump can save spaceflight.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:14:00 UTC No. 16412435
>>16412433
HLS selection was done during the early days by Trump appointees who were promptly fired for doing it.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:23:28 UTC No. 16412444
>>16412435
And after that a second HLS contract was awarded to Blue Origin, who was likely "supposed" to have it before SpaceX entered the race and brutally shoved aside all competition.
Imagine a world where NASA selected BO's nonexistent lander and Alpaca as the redundant option.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:24:18 UTC No. 16412447
>>16412310
>Soon, every payload will be FIRE
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:35:36 UTC No. 16412461
>>16412435
>>16412444
The final selection was in 2021 and the reason that only one lander was selected was because a republican controlled Congress did not provide enough funding.
Later we get the blue origin lander as well because a democratic Congress provided enough extra funding that NASA requested, it's hardly blocking spaceflight.
Anyway I think Musk should have remained more apolitical as he was in the 2010s, this pathetic cynical dicksucking he is doing for political favours is the exact opposite of what their philosophy is supposed to be, and it's how SpaceX will become oldspace.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:36:09 UTC No. 16412463
>>16411835
>$1,000,000,000,000
So cheaper than the F-35 program? I'm fine with that.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:38:04 UTC No. 16412466
>>16412461
holy cope
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:50:50 UTC No. 16412480
>>16412461
>oldspace
That was simply a factor of the contracting model (costs+guaranteed profit). No company can remain healthy that way.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:52:51 UTC No. 16412483
>>16412461
he was attacked repeatedly, he stayed apolitical for years
it doesn't work
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:54:07 UTC No. 16412485
>>16412461
and what do you mean by "their philosophy is supposed to be"?
I'm genuinely curious
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:00:23 UTC No. 16412495
>>16412310
sasuga anon
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:01:39 UTC No. 16412500
SpaceX mission is to make humanity multiplanetary
whether that involves politics or not is irrelevant
if the political climate is healthy, staying apolitical makes sense, if the political climate is "going to space is dangerous and we have to ban it", then obviously to achieve the mission, you have to change the political climate
Musks companies and by extension SpaceX has always been about getting things done by whatever means necessary, using the government to their advantage is not some foreign thing to them i.e.see subsidies and government contracts
thinking you can even do spaceflight without getting the government involved in some way is pretty naive and going from government to politics is not a big stretch
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:03:21 UTC No. 16412503
so why did they restack starship?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:04:17 UTC No. 16412505
>>16412503
We are going
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:05:14 UTC No. 16412506
>>16412503
IFT-5 next week
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:07:12 UTC No. 16412511
>>16412461
>Later we get the blue origin lander as well
And you think this is a good thing? You like this, you wanted this and champion it as a right move?
You actually think like this? You motherfucker?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:19:45 UTC No. 16412532
>>16412461
in a just world people like this would be promptly strangled without ceremony and stacked like cordwood
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:19:49 UTC No. 16412534
https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/1
SpaceX letter to FCC about Omnispace obstructing them
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:26:51 UTC No. 16412542
I wonder if a reflight of IFT-4 is to provoke some type of response from the FAA.
If Musk/SpaceX is correct that some people in the agency are directly interfering with Starship progress, they wouldn't be happy at even a redo of IFT-4, but without modification of the flight parameters they very well can't say much without looking like direct interference.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:31:17 UTC No. 16412550
what the heck bros. I was just watching the Balkan news channel when I saw Elon with Trump on stage. The fuck?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:32:14 UTC No. 16412552
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:33:18 UTC No. 16412554
Ayo when is the Hera launch?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:39:23 UTC No. 16412560
>>16412554
tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:40:29 UTC No. 16412562
>>16412560
I am excited about planetary science missions!
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:42:58 UTC No. 16412565
>>16412562
yeah it seems pretty cool based on that 3min explainer
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:43:59 UTC No. 16412566
>>16412565
>>16412562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXM
this vid
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:44:12 UTC No. 16412567
part of me wants Dragonfly canceled because it's budget tripled but the other part of me wants me to keep Dragonfly because it's legit the best planetary missions we had in decades
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:44:46 UTC No. 16412568
>>16412560
It's going to check up on the asteroid that DART smacked into? That's pretty cool, I wonder if the crater left by DART will look any different than normal ones, apart from looking newer that is. It'd be real neat if any bits of DART were embedded in the crater.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:46:04 UTC No. 16412569
>>16412568
>It'd be real neat if any bits of DART were embedded in the crater.
would be very kino.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:46:41 UTC No. 16412571
>>16412463
>F35 program gets you thousands of new fighter jets with new features (Vertical takeoff and landing, stealth, etc.) for yourself and all your allies
>Mars mission gets you some rocks and makes some middle aged autistic men happy
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:49:15 UTC No. 16412578
>>16412560
>the dinosaurs had no defense against asteroids because they never had a space agency
N-NO WAY
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:49:15 UTC No. 16412579
>>16412571
Yes, blowing up goat herders is definitely a better use of money than colonizing our nearest neighbor planet.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:50:55 UTC No. 16412581
>>16412550
We dark maga now
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:51:23 UTC No. 16412582
>>16412571
>VTOL
>new
ffs
t. bong
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:51:37 UTC No. 16412583
>>16412579
Yeah it is because mars colonization has no value-added proposition
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:52:21 UTC No. 16412584
>>16412583
wrong
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:52:27 UTC No. 16412585
Falcon 9 pioneered VTOL
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:52:28 UTC No. 16412586
>>16412579
>colonize mars
>immediate immigration by space sandniggers
>mars society collapses in a decade
gj retard
>kill all arabs
>no space sandniggers to assault you
>mars society flourishes
it's that easy
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:53:19 UTC No. 16412589
>>16412584
Where are the fields of gold and cocaine on mars?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:54:29 UTC No. 16412591
>>16412589
what does cocaine have to do with this?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:54:37 UTC No. 16412592
>>16412585
the LEM was VTOL tho
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:55:18 UTC No. 16412594
>>16412591
You need to extract value from mars somehow
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:55:25 UTC No. 16412595
>>16412583
Incorrect.
>>16412586
Let me know when Somalia has a space program and I'll worry about it then. Shit, NGOs don't even have a space program anon, you can't just load people up on a raft and float it to Mars.
Your supposed problem does not and will not exist. The only immigration to Mars we'll have to keep in check is Chinese.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:55:35 UTC No. 16412596
>>16412594
no you don't
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:56:34 UTC No. 16412599
>>16412595
>Incorrect
You autists always make short dismissive statements because you have no explanation for how the colonization of mars would be a positive sum relationship
>>16412596
Yes you do
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:57:02 UTC No. 16412600
>>16412594
cocaine is not that valuable.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:57:51 UTC No. 16412602
>>16412600
Okay, substitute something more valuable in it's place that you can find on mars.
What is it?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:58:18 UTC No. 16412604
>>16412599
wrong
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:58:32 UTC No. 16412606
>>16412589
Gold is useless on Mars aside from tiny niche uses in electronics and scientific instruments. Besides, SpaceX has asteroid access.
Cocaine can be synthetic, Mars will be confined, and boring at times, so they will be the richest planet in the known universe with thousands of designer drugs and advanced in-situ resource chemical manufacturing.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:58:41 UTC No. 16412608
>>16412571
>Mars mission gets you some rocks
It's not a mission dumbfuck, they're sending several hundred tons of cargo as soon as next window to get a base started. Some of the first people to arrive might stay there
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:59:25 UTC No. 16412609
>>16412602
meth
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:59:35 UTC No. 16412610
>>16412608
Not happening, Elon is going to have his hand out for hundreds of billions
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:59:41 UTC No. 16412611
>>16412583
>it has to make money or there's no point
This is how I know you're Dutch
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:59:47 UTC No. 16412612
>>16412605
musk showw fealty to the alpha male
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:00:04 UTC No. 16412613
>>16412542
>IFT-4 2:electric boogaloo
What would even be the point though, they wouldn't be able to gain any meaningful data from Starship as they've changed the flap profile and clearly the upgrades to the internal tanks worked to keep the booster working post-stage separation.
The only benefit would testing to see how the new tiles and ablative work during re-entry, they can't even do any of the in-flight tests they did on IFT-3 without a change to the license.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:00:42 UTC No. 16412614
>>16412610
What are you even attempting to say?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:00:47 UTC No. 16412616
>>16412610
did you see what Musk did with Twitter?
he really cares about the mission
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:00:48 UTC No. 16412617
>>16412606
Okay so what's the value proposition for colonizing mars. What's the positive sum relationship?
>>16412611
It has to make money or there is no point, that's correct
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:00:54 UTC No. 16412618
>>16412602
Mars drugs. What happens if you smoke mars perchlorates? Anything can happen
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:02:19 UTC No. 16412622
>>16412617
making life multiplanetary, having a place where you can go live without retards and the mean IQ being something like 120
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:02:27 UTC No. 16412623
>>16412614
>Elon is going to waste tens of billions of dollars on a meme base that will get abandoned if governments don't bail it out
Not happening, he will ask for money or to transfer the burden of maintaining it to government
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:02:29 UTC No. 16412624
>>16412595
niggers always find a way, anon.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:03:08 UTC No. 16412625
>>16412622
>making life multiplanetary, having a place where you can go live without retards and the mean IQ being something like 120
They will dump Haitians on Mars as soon as it's successful
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:03:20 UTC No. 16412626
>>16412621
it = twitter
not musk personally
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:03:30 UTC No. 16412627
>>16412599
Incorrect.
>>16412617
>It has to make money or there is no point
0 (zero) human spirit detected.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:04:04 UTC No. 16412629
>>16412594
If Elon throws enough Starlink money at it to make the colony self-sustaining, then you really don't need to extract any value from it.
A colony which is materially self-sustaining is inherently economically self-sustaining. It develops a semi-decoupled Martian economy that exists on the basis of trading Martian goods and services among Martians. Earth isn't explicitly necessary beyond the initial kickstart, which Starlink is perfectly capable of providing. Elon is essentially "purchasing" a new locus of civilization and economic activity, not establishing a venture to extract value for Earth.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:04:05 UTC No. 16412630
>>16412617
>It has to make money or there is no point
You are scum and I'll be glad to leave you behind
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:04:20 UTC No. 16412631
>>16412625
who will?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:04:42 UTC No. 16412633
>>16412617
Value proposition of mars is putting a void of space between yourself and 80 iq monkeys, their midwit enablers, and the psychotics running banks and countries.
So somewhere near priceless.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:05:08 UTC No. 16412635
>>16412617
To watch the Earth degenerate and die, with equity mandates for all the world's niggers, Muslims, and other turds, special education is SO important in failed societies, the IQ is going to drop rapidly, everyone worth a shit will leave for a societal do-over, while the home planet flounders in incompetence.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:05:48 UTC No. 16412636
>>16412623
Utter moron. Do you think current day Elon would invite government involvement in his endeavors? At least attempt to have a coherent position
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:05:52 UTC No. 16412637
>>16412602
Spice
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:06:01 UTC No. 16412638
>>16412602
>>16412594
Once there are people on Mars they will sell their labor, much like is done in other places. Many kinds of work do not require one to be physically present at a particular location.
Some people will do work for off world entities and some will produce the goods and services necessary to support the colony directly.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:06:05 UTC No. 16412639
>>16412625
>>16412624
This is a fetish for you or what
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:07:15 UTC No. 16412641
>>16412629
yeah, its basically asking what is the benefit of earth existing
what would be the benefit of starting a self-sustaining country that can not trade with other countries? well the people living there are a separate economy just like the global economy is self-sufficient right now
Mars has a lot of space, will have a free-er government
why do people do anything at all? money (i.e. way to get resources or services) is just an instrument to do something else
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:07:55 UTC No. 16412642
>>16412623
He already wasted billions on a meme rocket with the express purpose of building the meme base.
Don't be a retard.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:09:00 UTC No. 16412644
>>16412642
Go be retarded on some other board faggot, fuck off
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:09:19 UTC No. 16412645
>>16412629
You're not going to replicate the supply chain of modern life on a mars colony with a couple billion dollars per year in starlink profit, it requires millions of people living there at a minimum
>>16412630
The point of Cathedrals was to enhance the transcendent experience of mass and the worship of God
>>16412631
>>16412633
>>16412635
You know exactly (((who)))
It will get destroyed immediately if it's ever actually successful
>>16412636
Yes, who do you think keeps all of his businesses propped up? Its mostly government contractor money or subsidies
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:09:40 UTC No. 16412647
>>16412637
I don't think magic worm poop exists in this universe
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:13:23 UTC No. 16412651
>>16412645
>You're not going to replicate the supply chain of modern life on a mars colony with a couple billion dollars per year in starlink profit, it requires millions of people living there at a minimum
the rough goal is a million people, yes
a couple of billion per year (lets say 3) over 20 years is 60 billion
but Starlink will have much higher profits than that, could be something like 10bil a year pretty easily
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:14:01 UTC No. 16412654
>>16412327
>some retarded anons wanted this for VP just because he was an astronaut
This motherfucker would have just hindered SpaceX, and given Bezos (a billionaire) everything. The fucking irony.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:15:07 UTC No. 16412656
>>16412569
sadly at the speed it impacted the probe probably just vaporized, i seriously doubt any bits of it are left.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:15:14 UTC No. 16412657
>>16412186
this and literally me too - he's trying to bow slightly bc he's a weeaboo at heart but maintain eye contact. it makes it look like those starfield npcs kek.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:18:14 UTC No. 16412660
>>16412630
building designed to please imagined deity is not the ideal example anon?
>>16412633
>and the psychotics running banks and countries.
surely you meant psychopaths? Also who are these psychopaths running banks and countries? Name them?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:18:48 UTC No. 16412661
>>16412645
Starlink hasn't even launched the entire initially-proposed constellation. The existing constellation isn't running at capacity. Subscriber growth is nonstop. Revenue growth is explosive, on track to hit double-digit billions in a year or two.
Starlink PROFIT will hit double-digit billions in the early 2030s even if trends start slowing.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:19:48 UTC No. 16412663
>>16412658
lmaoo, was just reading other stuff about ASTS, they are coping about the Trump endorsement
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:19:54 UTC No. 16412664
>>16412656
so you're saying when bullets hits rocks they also vaporize?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:20:42 UTC No. 16412666
>>16412660
>building designed to please imagined deity is not the ideal example anon?
If he's imaginary, explain how the shroud of turin was fabricated by a 13th century monk
Look your God in the eyes
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:21:49 UTC No. 16412668
>>16412661
>Starlink PROFIT will hit double-digit billions in the early 2030s even if trends start slowing.
Starlink charges over $100/month which is not competitive with ground based carriers, it's only used in rural areas without ground infrastructure.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:21:53 UTC No. 16412670
>>16412660
>Also who are these psychopaths running banks and countries? Name them?
Name any CEO or high-ranking politician and the odds are you're naming a psychopath. They filter to the top of organizations very reliably. Anon's mistake is thinking that Martians will be escaping this phenomenon—it's one of the closest things we have to a law of sociology.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:21:55 UTC No. 16412671
>>16412666
look at your digits
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:22:31 UTC No. 16412673
>>16412664
Depending on the speed and density of the target, yeah sometimes. Still, I think anon is wrong out of sheer hope that there's some little bits of metal stuck in that crater that'll show up in photos. I don't expect a solar panel sticking out the side like a cartoon but something.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:22:35 UTC No. 16412674
>>16412658
https://x.com/longmier/status/18429
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:23:01 UTC No. 16412676
>>16412670
damn for a moment there I thought you were gonna say Jews. But damn you're right I'm pretty sure lots of these CEOs are psychopaths that can't feel empathy.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:23:17 UTC No. 16412678
>>16412630
>cathedrals don't make money
Very poor example. The Catholic Church is one of the largest corporations in history.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:23:53 UTC No. 16412680
>>16412660
>building designed to please imagined deity
Wrong. Idiot. The separation of stem and the humanities has been a disaster. Also, it's a great example. Great expenditure to create something beautiful, and the payoff is that centuries later we still have something beautiful. That's the only reason you need.
>>16412666
Not relevant
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:24:40 UTC No. 16412681
>>16412668
which covers tens of millions of people...
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:25:29 UTC No. 16412684
>>16412680
>Great expenditure to create something beautiful, and the payoff is that centuries later we still have something beautiful. That's the only reason you need.
Where's the beauty in bringing back some mars rocks and people living in some white vacuum sealed domes for a few days again?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:25:41 UTC No. 16412685
>>16412680
>Great expenditure to create something beautiful, and the payoff is that centuries later we still have something beautiful. That's the only reason you need.
100% human spirit detected
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:26:02 UTC No. 16412686
>>16412680
can we please extend this argument to astronomy.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:26:25 UTC No. 16412687
>>16412681
Most people in the world live off <$10 a day, it's already the biggest player by far in NA and Europe for rural areas
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:27:07 UTC No. 16412688
>>16412685
Fuck I want to live in a rock so bad bros. . . .
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:27:14 UTC No. 16412689
>>16412668
It covers the entire planet. Most of these places will just skip the step of installing ground infrastructure on the path to an American standard of living. It's also the only option for every plane and boat on earth. The telecom market is one trillion dollars a year, were only talking about capturing some single digit percentage of it.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:29:05 UTC No. 16412690
>>16412676
This is pretty well-researched, anon. Or, as well-researched as it can be when the population you're studying is neurologically well-equipped to conceal their own nature. Psychopaths are either smart enough to leverage their way into reasonable success or they end up in prison. Occasionally one, then the other.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:29:23 UTC No. 16412692
>>16412689
1% of 1 trillion is 10 billion
Telecom profit margins over time are slim, meaning the profit margin will be around 30% absolute maximum
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:30:01 UTC No. 16412693
>>16412687
non-whites will naturally pay much less than any whitey has to pay, thats normal
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:31:12 UTC No. 16412696
>>16412345
Did Raytheon buy him? This would cost trillions easily. If SpaceX could do to defense rocketry costs what they did to space launch I'd maybe get it.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:32:18 UTC No. 16412699
>>16412613
They should run the IFT-5 flight plan anyway.
>lol what u gonna do about it
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:32:28 UTC No. 16412700
>>16412658
Might give them a small boost? Proves the viability of the business really, as the rest of the market still pretends SpaceX doesn't exist otherwise
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:32:43 UTC No. 16412701
>>16412694
>>16412688
Not tunnels, geofronts. Massive open spaces we can build cities in. It's the ideal solution to the "outside" problem until Mars' atmosphere has been thickened enough.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:33:23 UTC No. 16412702
>>16412684
We're not going to spend a couple days in a tent just to bring back some rocks. We're building a city far away from you.
>>16412685
Fellow man
>>16412692
Even with your hypothetical three billion, building a full stack from scratch is only like $100,000,000. We don't know the refurbish and refly cost yet but it's already shaping up to be lower than F9. This is a lot of money if the government isn't in charge of spending it
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:36:42 UTC No. 16412706
>>16412696
Anduril is trying to do to the defense industry what SpaceX did to space launch, but yeah I'm not sure
he is talking to some people in a state with an existing company in that which I assume is one of the old Primes
would have to use something else than them if you wanted to actually start doing stuff in earnest
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:39:37 UTC No. 16412707
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:43:36 UTC No. 16412712
Why is this US election more bizarre than any other?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:44:03 UTC No. 16412713
>>16412709
But can it reenter with a melted wing
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:45:14 UTC No. 16412715
muskiddies btfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Y
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:46:14 UTC No. 16412716
>>16412712
It always gets weird
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:47:05 UTC No. 16412717
>>16412674
Umm sorry sweety, the (((FCC))) is part of a global conspiracy against mars colonisation, this is FAKE NEWS from FEMA about hurricane HARPlene
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:50:16 UTC No. 16412719
>>16412715
this dude is the european version of thunderfoot
made a video about the tesla semi being impossible for instance (tesla is in the process of building the factory for it right now)
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:50:47 UTC No. 16412721
>>16412717
he kind of did a version of this at the speech where he told Elon to "get over here" and Elon obediently did it.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:52:44 UTC No. 16412723
>>16412712
It's the last one.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:54:49 UTC No. 16412728
>>16412611
sorry autistic /pol/nigger but that was someone else.
did you really get this upset because someone pointed out that you will never belong?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:55:41 UTC No. 16412730
>>16412719
The Tesla semi is retarded though because it's substantially heavier than the standard tolerance for most bridges.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:56:02 UTC No. 16412731
>>16412712
It's like console wars but in real life
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:56:05 UTC No. 16412732
>>16412728
holy shit why do you always think everyone is the same guy
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:56:41 UTC No. 16412733
>>16412730
wrong and extremely retarded comment
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:57:13 UTC No. 16412734
>>16412733
It's not wrong, not that you've ever looked into it though
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:57:42 UTC No. 16412737
>>16412730
like this is pretending to be retarded level shit
please stop
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:58:15 UTC No. 16412738
>>16412707
5/5 bretty gud :DDDDD
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:58:43 UTC No. 16412739
>>16412734
are you serious?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:59:33 UTC No. 16412741
>>16412735
>safety of the middle of the ocean
FAA more like faaggots
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 18:59:36 UTC No. 16412742
>>16412664
does a bullet travel at 6.4 km/s?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:01:50 UTC No. 16412744
>>16412728
Reply to me again and I'm sending you a tikkie
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:05:46 UTC No. 16412750
>>16412744
>tikkie
just looked this up. I can't believe this is real.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:06:15 UTC No. 16412751
>>16412701
in case of an asteroid on collision course with mars we will also have the falling building systems from evangelion.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:06:32 UTC No. 16412752
>>16412735
Wait, what happened with the Crew-9 mission?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:06:45 UTC No. 16412753
>>16412750
wtf
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:08:13 UTC No. 16412754
>>16412753
why are they like this
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:09:46 UTC No. 16412757
>>16412754
the dutch need to be banned from the mars colony
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:10:54 UTC No. 16412759
>>16412732
i don't "think" that, there's one retard who is directly responsible for all of the newfaggotry afoot and he apparently thinks mentioning the nationality of person that noticed him is making an impact.
went out of his way to damage control on multiple occasions when the topic of the recent flood of newfags was brought up.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:11:03 UTC No. 16412760
>>16412750
it's some payment app like any other?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:11:03 UTC No. 16412761
>>16412754
That's fuckin hilarious, truly swampjews
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:12:02 UTC No. 16412763
>>16412757
we will make your mars colony more efficient than you could ever dream of by yourself.
plus, we already have tons of experience in terraforming, something no other nation on earth has.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:12:12 UTC No. 16412764
Why colonize Mars when Antarctica is more habitable, is closer and has more density of resources?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:13:31 UTC No. 16412766
>>16412764
EARTHERS could be here, he thought to himself
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:13:41 UTC No. 16412767
>>16412751
Mars cities will need their own Iron Dome/Star Wars defense systems to protect against eventual Earther aggression.
>>16412764
You wanna go dig that place up, be my guess.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:14:40 UTC No. 16412768
>>16412767
yeah yeah sure.
but we'll still have the retractible gravity buildings just in case.
and because it looks cool as fuck.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:15:23 UTC No. 16412770
>>16412329
So disingenuous that nothing coming out of these politicians mouth are believable. He knows very well what the core issues are, deregulations, borders, immigrations, etc.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:15:36 UTC No. 16412771
>>16412764
because Mars is far away enough to need to be fully self-sustainable and independent
there is no point in making Antarctica self-sustainable due to the proximity to other civilization, which means it will never become self-sustainable
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:16:36 UTC No. 16412773
>>16412354
Yeah, thats why they targetted his companies, his reputation, his family, his life, etc already. Or did you forget all t hat?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:17:26 UTC No. 16412777
>>16412768
It does look pretty cool.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:17:54 UTC No. 16412778
>>16412773
Not to mention that the harassment, attacks, and efforts against him are escalating because when you destroy a man while saying "Democracy! Democracy! Democracy!" there are procedures and images that have to be maintained.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:19:10 UTC No. 16412779
>>16412760
>he doesn't understand that normal people don't bill each other for 1 coffee
Outed yourself Dutchfag
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:21:11 UTC No. 16412782
>>16412764
fuck off with your sensical arguemnt I want mars
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:24:25 UTC No. 16412788
>>16412782
its not sensical, colonizing Antarctica is pointless while there are many good reasons to colonize Mars
its not because there is abundant resources there or because its easy, its despite these things
if mars was an earthlike planet you would still have the same reasons (and perhaps some new ones) to colonize it, i.e. make life multiplanetary so one extinction event doesn't wipe humanity out, because its cool, because its a forcing function for making rocket and space technology better, because it lets us experiment with new types of governments (a bit like with the US)
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:24:38 UTC No. 16412789
>>16411975
You might be wondering why Elon openly supporting the other candidate drives lefties on twitter insane.
It's because they zealously self-police. You'll meet ones who suddenly go into a panic at the mention of Donald Trump or whatever. They are signaling desperately that they DO NOT APPROVE. They are terrified that they will lose their status within their own pecking order. You might think "wait but that's like cult behavior".
It is.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:25:50 UTC No. 16412792
>>16412621
the far right thinks trump is too moderate so yeah
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:28:23 UTC No. 16412796
>>16412621
these people never met a genuine far-righter in their entire lives
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:28:26 UTC No. 16412797
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:29:37 UTC No. 16412799
>>16412792
We're pretty happy about his recent rhetoric actually
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:31:55 UTC No. 16412802
>step 1: send cargo ships to mars containing all materials
>step 2: send humans to construct base
What's the problem, exactly? We should've had humans on Mars decades ago. All other problems have been solved. Food and water can be stocked up for months, oxygen can be made through electrolysis, radiation is a meme... so what gives? Thank fuck for SX and Starship because it seems this world is ran by kikes with no foresight or vision whatsoever. Yeah, there's a lot of risks, but so what? Everything we have done until now required risking lives and many sacrifices. What happened to the NASA of the 60s?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:32:58 UTC No. 16412804
>>16412660
please go spaz out about atheism somewhere else
no one else cares how much you hated sunday school
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:34:02 UTC No. 16412805
>>16412802
Sending that much shit was too expensive, and landing needs to be propulsive. Getting back is even more difficult, and the trip each way is nearly a year. MOST of the shit sent to Mars has failed, something like 60%. It's a very difficult problem if you don't have a Starship
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:34:08 UTC No. 16412806
>>16412799
He needs to prioritize results over rhetoric.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:34:17 UTC No. 16412807
>>16412676
por que no los dos?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:34:56 UTC No. 16412810
>>16412802
>What's the problem, exactly?
rockets to get there are rather unaffordable
that always was the reason
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:36:11 UTC No. 16412811
>>16412701
this isn't even pop-sci
what kind of magic do you use to hold the walls up?
please, don't tell me
I already know it's fucking stupid
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:36:44 UTC No. 16412813
>>16412690
got link to research?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:39:08 UTC No. 16412814
>>16412811
Air pressure.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:41:06 UTC No. 16412816
>>16412811
https://wiki.evageeks.org/Geofront
magic
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:41:10 UTC No. 16412817
>>16412566
Video fit for consumption by ADHD riddled faggots such as myself
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:42:13 UTC No. 16412818
Reminder that if you think gas can't flow from lower pressure to higher pressure you're a physics brainlet.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:43:44 UTC No. 16412819
>>16412621
Trannies dont understand that Musk is an individual and X is a separate entity
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:43:50 UTC No. 16412820
gas flows uphill, liquids flow down hill
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:44:36 UTC No. 16412821
>>16412764
Mars roggs aren't buried under a mile of ice.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:47:16 UTC No. 16412826
>>16412811
>what kind of magic do you use to hold the walls up?
It's a cavern, the walls are already held up by nature of it being a natural cavern.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:47:38 UTC No. 16412829
>>16412806
tsmt
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:48:08 UTC No. 16412831
>>16412824
elections come first
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:48:50 UTC No. 16412832
>>16412567
same thing with JWST and MSR. And SLS and Orion. They’re interesting things worth chasing on paper but the prices and managerial incompetence is insane. On one hand it’s fine because America can front any spending bill (USA effectively has unlimited money and if it REALLY comes down to it we can always just brute force Titan missions, manned mars and lunar missions, MSR to beat China, etc) but the sad part is that NASA funding works through a bureaucratic process so that funding only comes in waves and when projects such as MSR blow up in cost and resources, it slows down other things like Dragonfly—when Dragonfly blows up it slows down potential future projects like Uranus or Neptune missions
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:59:25 UTC No. 16412840
Should we check if the Apollo poop bags have been sterilised by 50 years of the UV and cosmic rays? Imagine if they weren't?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:06:29 UTC No. 16412843
>>16412840
>Should we check
No, much like how the sunken ships at Pearl Harbor are considered permanent tombs, those bags of poop should be eternal memorials to man's progress in space.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:19:03 UTC No. 16412850
>>16412840
>>16412843
I think the Apollo 11 site should be left alone aside from a dome getting placed over it for preservation. Extremely careful and limited collection of items from 12-17 should happen, though.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:27:30 UTC No. 16412855
>>16412645
the point of cathedrals was to generate pilgrim traffic to build the economy of the town (tourism)
That said, I think cathedral-building is a good model for big space initiatives like Mars colonization. It was a multi-generational effort that did not expect returns for a hundred years, yet fostered an army of craftsmen, architects, and artisans. Hard to do that under the burden of a four-year election cycle.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:27:53 UTC No. 16412856
>>16412820
Brainlet. What is density
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:28:25 UTC No. 16412857
>>16412560
>>16412554
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1843015
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:29:22 UTC No. 16412859
When Trump loses and SpaceX is persecuted by the FAA for being owned by Musk youre going to be real mad that he didnt keep his opinions to himself. Dork MAGA was a real good play chuds.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:32:41 UTC No. 16412860
>>16412857
>15%
it's over
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:38:05 UTC No. 16412866
>>16412859
Would you fuck off already, god damn
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:41:05 UTC No. 16412867
>>16412760
Other payment apps allow you to make payments, but are not designed around sending payment requests to your friends
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:42:10 UTC No. 16412873
>>16412867
Why is Netherlands so weird bros. They have so much legal drugs and prostitution and now this.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:43:40 UTC No. 16412874
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:51:51 UTC No. 16412880
>>16412859
elon will be emperor of mars and execute his opponents
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:04:00 UTC No. 16412889
>>16412866
>>16412874
>>16412880
Either you are god damn stupid, have IQ lower than 85 or you are below 18 y.o
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:05:41 UTC No. 16412891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRd
Perseverance is using a steep but smooth exit ramp out of Jezero crater to get to interesting science targets on the outside. Now it’s struggling in a kind of Martian mud and resorting to unprecedented moves to reach its goal.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:06:27 UTC No. 16412892
>>16412891
building this giant contraption without counter weights is hella fking retarded
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:06:36 UTC No. 16412894
>>16412397
seems more plausible with lower launch costs and a dedicated military branch.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:07:35 UTC No. 16412896
>>16412891
Why counterweights? You think the arms moving will shake everything?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:08:02 UTC No. 16412898
>>16412892
>when the chopsticks rip right off
Oof
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:08:50 UTC No. 16412900
>>16412859
Government that persecutes people for politics is an evil government. I wouldn't be mad at Musk for anything the government does out of ill intent
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:09:37 UTC No. 16412902
>>16412891
glad this guy is doing regular updates on Perseverance
>>16412397
space weapons are banned
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:17:13 UTC No. 16412905
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:24:47 UTC No. 16412912
>>16412405
Don't worry about it
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:30:35 UTC No. 16412916
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:34:00 UTC No. 16412920
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:38:54 UTC No. 16412925
>>16412916
two retards carrying a box into some random boomers home
and another retard filming
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:41:36 UTC No. 16412932
>>16412925
You seem upset
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:44:22 UTC No. 16412934
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:45:51 UTC No. 16412935
>>16412826
>natural cavern with a sky in it
1-800-COME-ON-NOW
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:46:51 UTC No. 16412937
>>16412856
>calls others brainlet
>doesn't know what density is
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:47:35 UTC No. 16412940
>>16412920
Nice. I wonder if Starlink is sending their GPS data to the 911 operator for accurate location response.
>>16412916
Nice.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:50:34 UTC No. 16412944
>>16412903
that's beautiful
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:51:32 UTC No. 16412945
>>16412944
Kys
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:58:42 UTC No. 16412949
>>16412945
Kabloona You Seem
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:02:41 UTC No. 16412953
>>16412925
seethe
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:03:48 UTC No. 16412955
If Trump really does win, how long until the next NASA budget is chosen and allocated? Seems like the prime time to finally kill SLS
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:04:09 UTC No. 16412956
I HATE EARTHERS
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:05:48 UTC No. 16412958
>>16412859
blow it out your ass cuck
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:07:31 UTC No. 16412959
>>16412945
I don't have a sister
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:09:13 UTC No. 16412960
>>16412955
SLS will continue to be funded until Starship launches uncrewed to Mars in 2026
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:10:35 UTC No. 16412961
>>16412955
President has zero control over budget
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:10:36 UTC No. 16412962
>>16412960
ffs
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:17:28 UTC No. 16412963
>>16412962
It'll only launch once between now and then.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:19:45 UTC No. 16412966
>>16412963
$12 B just for that time
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:25:34 UTC No. 16412972
>>16412969
launch the rocket elon mustard sir
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:27:17 UTC No. 16412976
https://x.com/jasonjoyride/status/1
>Almost 3,000 satellites are launched per year and that number will only grow.
>Virtually, all satellites use custom designed busses, despite their payload missions being similar.
This is definitely wrong right? Most of the sats are Starlinks and they all use a standardized bus.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:29:20 UTC No. 16412980
>>16412969
Does Ship 30 have the same flap placement as IFT-4? Do yall think we're going to see a similar burn-through like last flight?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:31:43 UTC No. 16412983
>>16412980
yes, but flap hinge area has had temporary fixes to hopefully not have hot gas flowing through again. Even if it burns through again, v2 ships are only 2-3 flights away which remove that pain point entirely
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:34:27 UTC No. 16412986
>>16412757
Nee.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:37:32 UTC No. 16412988
>>16412980
>>16412983
Some pictures have also shown that on and around the flaps they doubled-up on the filler that they pack between tiles.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:39:30 UTC No. 16412989
>>16412980
So basically, Flight 5 (B12 / S30) and Flight 6 (B13 / S31) are still Block 1 which uses Raptor 2's and old fin placement but with electric TVC and thousands of improvements over time
Flight 7 (B14 / S33) will be the first Block 2 stack. In theory still Raptor 2's but this time, this type of ships are ready to deploy payload, fins are placed much further back and many more optimizations. I would say , this Block is ready to test reusability. Also, in my opinion, Block 2 ships will have Raptor 3's mid 2025 i would guess. This would eliminate the nasty problem of autogenous pressurization contamination (pre burner exhaust into the tanks)
I hope it helped
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:48:41 UTC No. 16412999
>>16412983
>>16412988
>>16412989
Thanks for the info anons
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:50:14 UTC No. 16413000
I am from the future. I will share my wisdom to you /sfg/
>Trump will lose the election leading to Musk losing his marbles completely
>Shotwell will retire next year
>Starship test campaign will be drastically hindered by the lack of progress and make no real advancement for two years
>Blue Origin lands New Glenn on its first launch and steals most of SpaceX's custemors and workers that wants to get away from Musk thereafter
>SLS will not be cancelled
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:51:03 UTC No. 16413001
>>16413000
is pretending to be retarded when everyone knows you're pretending still fun, anon?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:55:48 UTC No. 16413009
>>16413000
Fuck off with this gay shit
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:57:32 UTC No. 16413015
>>16412976
>Virtually, all satellites use custom designed busses
And this is a problem because? Standardization just codifies mediocrity.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:59:54 UTC No. 16413020
>>16413000
At least make it somewhat believable.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:01:06 UTC No. 16413022
Milton will end SLS but also Clipper.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:05:09 UTC No. 16413026
>>16413000
I am from the future as well. But future where this guy just shit his pants because he has the -ism.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:06:34 UTC No. 16413028
>>16412900
remember the last time americans got persecuted? they fled england to found a new country on a new continent. this time they'll create a planet sized country.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:10:25 UTC No. 16413035
>>16412902
>space weapons are banned
only weapons of mass destruction, however nukes are proliferating (china, north korea, iran?), and russia and the US tore up a few nuclear weapon treaties over the past 20 years. the direction moves towards striking off the ban on wmds in space.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:10:51 UTC No. 16413036
ScamX wont be landing shit on Mars until Husk bends the knee to Kamala and turns himself in. Trump will lose and you will be happy with Shotwell owning SpaceX.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:14:09 UTC No. 16413042
>>16412955
>how long until the next NASA budget is chosen and allocated?
its chosen every year. the fiscal year starts on oct 1.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:17:38 UTC No. 16413047
>>16412969
/sfg/ in 2026: IFT-5 looks so primitive in comparison to current gen
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:22:15 UTC No. 16413054
>>16413047
Shut up nigger
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:36:57 UTC No. 16413082
>>16412857
Falcon needs to be more resilient to weather. If it were soyuz launching that would be an 85% go.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:40:39 UTC No. 16413088
>>16413015
Not even true Boeing, Lockheed, and Northrup have had sold satalite busses for years.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boe
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:40:50 UTC No. 16413089
>>16412961
They control NASA's direction. I don't know who could convince Trump to do this but he could refocus NASA to Starship oriented exploration payloads. Call it something or other, and make the goal something vague outside of a very clear number of probes per year. It's about time someone pointed them away from mass autism and shit rockets
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:44:24 UTC No. 16413097
Jim Free should be in jail
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:54:32 UTC No. 16413116
>>16413105
why are they always young girls, lets see some young boys
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:54:52 UTC No. 16413117
>>16413089
Artemis is Trump's baby. If Elon can prove he gets a moon landing faster without SLS he'll do it.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:56:17 UTC No. 16413121
How do we know there isn't another earth on the other side of the sun with the same orbit as us?
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:57:52 UTC No. 16413124
>>16413116
all vehicles are female silly
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:59:04 UTC No. 16413126
>watch challenger disaster documentary from Nat Geo
>expect a detailed explanation into what caused the explosion
>all they are talking about is the teacher and her feelings
>the cause explained in a form of a single slide at the end
fuck that, I've wasted an entire hour
At least the book gave me what I wanted.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:02:14 UTC No. 16413132
>>16413047
/sfg/ in 2026: Man I can't believe we fell for the Starship scam. Now we're years behind China to land on the Moon. At least Musk is in jail and SpaceX got nationalized.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:03:12 UTC No. 16413134
>>16413132
I bet you'd like that wouldn't you
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:12:34 UTC No. 16413148
Musk needs to genuinely be dismissed and bought out. He's ruining SpaceX.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:14:34 UTC No. 16413151
>>16413121
NEA trojans would be distributed at 90 degrees ahead/behind instead of 60 degrees.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:14:54 UTC No. 16413153
>>16413126
go read Truth, Lies, and O-Rings, that has all the detail you could want
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:16:32 UTC No. 16413156
>>16413153
Yes, that's the book I meant, but I need to read it again because I don't remember it all.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:16:59 UTC No. 16413157
Daily reminder that there is zero reason to go to mars
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:18:00 UTC No. 16413159
>>16413157
thank you for reminding me.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:18:18 UTC No. 16413160
>>16413157
Zero reason to climb mountains or to go diving as well.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:19:07 UTC No. 16413162
>>16413160
Good point, we shouldn't do those either
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:24:09 UTC No. 16413166
>>16413148
fuck off reddit
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:28:10 UTC No. 16413169
>>16413105
she's high energy
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:30:48 UTC No. 16413173
Ah, so the doomposter is the sharty nigger, no surprise. I bet he's a foreigner, too.
Not our problem there isn't hope in whatever shithole you spawned from.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:31:24 UTC No. 16413174
>>16412663
ASTSQ is the new TESLAQ
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:32:47 UTC No. 16413175
>>16413157
It's a white thing, you wouldn't get it
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:33:56 UTC No. 16413177
>>16413175
love my boy WvB but this rocket was fucking stupid.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:34:28 UTC No. 16413178
>>16413175
I'm Whiter than you and going to Mars is dumb
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:36:41 UTC No. 16413179
>>16413117
Surely SpaceX can work something out with FH and Dragon and return to Moon within two years while costing less than the second SLS tower.
It's only a question of political will.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:39:32 UTC No. 16413182
Is it possible to launch a rocket to orbit that never leaves its launch country's borders? like direct to geostationary without making any laps or even drifting that far off straight up from the launch site
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:41:02 UTC No. 16413185
>>16413157
>there is zero reason to survive the apocalypse
Yeah, for your race. Ours will go on.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:42:42 UTC No. 16413187
>>16413182
Theoretically, sure. Gonna be expensive AF.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:42:47 UTC No. 16413188
>>16413177
Mars had more atmosphere in the 70s so it made sense
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:43:28 UTC No. 16413189
>>16413178
One drop rule, you either are or you aren't. "-er" implies not.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:43:58 UTC No. 16413190
>>16413187
I mean, for a country on the equator. Obviously if you're not on the equator, there's no destination orbit possible.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:44:07 UTC No. 16413191
>>16413189
Don't be ridiculous, no one is completely white. Maybe in the days of the pioneers but not now.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:45:47 UTC No. 16413192
>>16413188
NOOT NOOT
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:46:32 UTC No. 16413194
>>16413188
that explains away the spaceplane upper stage but not the retarded shape or propellant choice.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:47:03 UTC No. 16413195
>>16413157
I see at least one now
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:47:18 UTC No. 16413196
>>16413097
Didn’t Free say something last year about HLS starship being “behind schedule” or something and also indicate that a second HLS option should be chosen under “traditional funding” aka cost-plus gibs
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:52:15 UTC No. 16413198
>>16413194
>shape
anon, this is engineering, they would've figured it out.
>prop choice
they would've abandoned it after relight issues anyway
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:54:13 UTC No. 16413199
>>16413175
>>16413178
>>16413189
>>16413191
Amerimutts cant be white
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:55:34 UTC No. 16413200
Dont make me tap the sign >>16411498
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:00:06 UTC No. 16413202
>>16413198
Why should there be relight issues?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:02:11 UTC No. 16413204
>>16413199
Thanks, VanDijk. We'll let you know when we need more expertise from do-nothing Europoors.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:03:23 UTC No. 16413208
>>16413202
Sorry, not relight. I'm so used to talking about Starship now. With that prop combo it was difficult to reliably ignite in the first place so it never went anywhere. It's also toxic so now it never will
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:08:52 UTC No. 16413213
>>16413204
Im from argentina and to me, americans are non white subhumans
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:10:32 UTC No. 16413214
>>16413213
how's your Argentinian space program doing?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:11:25 UTC No. 16413215
>>16411656
Total chink death
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:14:25 UTC No. 16413218
>>16413214
They didn't get any of the good Germans
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:14:41 UTC No. 16413219
>>16413213
lmao. thank you for your response.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:15:15 UTC No. 16413222
>>16413213
based, it's good to put mutts in their place.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:17:53 UTC No. 16413224
>>16413218
They didn't get the ones that built the rockets, they got the ones that built the camps that built the rockets
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:35:51 UTC No. 16413242
>>16412621
There is no contradiction here. Elon is allowed his own opinion.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:39:39 UTC No. 16413246
>>16413214
>>16413218
>>16413224
We sent a monkey to space like 60 years ago but we stopped caring
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:59:05 UTC No. 16413263
>>16413222
>Saturn
>Apollo
>Pioneer
>Mariner
>Voyager
>GPS
>HST
>JWST
>Falcon
>Starlink
>Starship
at the top
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 02:14:48 UTC No. 16413277
>>16413222
>>16413263
Do you know what the difference is between America at its best, and everyone else? When Americans see a contest, they root for the winners because they're winning, and the loser because they're the underdog, and Americans love a come from behind victory. Everyone else? They want a winner. They want a winner, and they want that winner to remain the winner, and it makes them angry if someone else is going to be the winner. America at its worst is what happens when the people in power start trying to be like everyone else.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 02:28:39 UTC No. 16413293
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 02:40:09 UTC No. 16413308
>>16411784
You're fighting for the long term objective of the success of your cause, not the person who achieves it, because that being is largely irrelevant beyond some praise in the history books--which society largely dismisses within 3-4 generations of the event itself to being "oh, that's cool; anyway, here's the latest and greatest" (which accepting all the benefits of the original endeavor as being systemic and foundational to society in a way that can't be undone).
If you get hung up cause the guy leading the charge endorses the wrong person, you weren't interested in the cause, only the person; which shows that your resolve towards the cause itself is fickle and weak.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 02:50:02 UTC No. 16413318
>>16412860
Hera may be delayed a year or two.
Or else SpaceX should give ESA a Falcon Heavy upgrade free, on the house.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 02:54:23 UTC No. 16413324
>>16413166
>>16413159
>>16413160
Why do you reply?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 02:56:53 UTC No. 16413326
>>16413191
>no one is completely white
That's a new type of cope
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 03:07:13 UTC No. 16413335
>>16413321
Now it's complete
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 03:25:49 UTC No. 16413357
>>16413335
The head on the curb should be a plover
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 03:31:32 UTC No. 16413364
>>16413357
it should be this
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 03:35:38 UTC No. 16413375
>>16413191
Over 90% of American whites have zero nonwhite ancestry. You are coping.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 03:41:11 UTC No. 16413390
>>16413213
kek, another argentinian in this general? the world is such a small place, boludo jaja
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 03:53:26 UTC No. 16413410
>>16411851
anti-ICBM development is back on the table as tyrants like monke are using it as shield to facilitate its imperial bloodlust. Effective countermeasures demand mass deployment in low orbits of cheap interceptors to kill the missiles before they can even properly stage. This is going to get funded one way or another and spacex crew is the only one capable of even doing the job. Now if musk remains as a controlling force in the company shareholders or if the machine has to brute force circumvent political hand wringing in the executive branch is another matter
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 04:02:36 UTC No. 16413418
>>16413410
One of these days you're going to deglove your penis reposting about this
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 04:44:13 UTC No. 16413463
>>16413460
what is he saying to him?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 04:45:59 UTC No. 16413467
>>16413463
>"We tie the FAA bureaucrats to the plover nests."
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 04:52:07 UTC No. 16413473
>>16413463
>"The beetles are behind all this. You have to kill their queen"
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:08:21 UTC No. 16413492
reminder, the fcc voted to take funding away from starlink based on party line, with the two republican commissioners approving starlink funding and the three democrat commissioners voting against spacex
corruption, hatred, and lawfare
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:27:32 UTC No. 16413508
>>16413492
Yep, and clearly the traditional big internet service providers and cell providers have the democrats in their pocket. Pure corruption, squarely on the democratic party, in plain sight. And they always claim the moral high ground with their wokeness.
Hurricane Milton (lol at the name) is set to do another $100B in damages, and disconnect loads more people, just before the election, PROVING the democrats would rather kill people than allow direct to cell and Starlink everywhere for remote and vulnerable communities, funded by big gov as essential.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:30:47 UTC No. 16413512
>>16413508
the fcc allowed it today https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1842988
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:33:19 UTC No. 16413514
>>16413512
Pure damage control. Because the optics of the situation was a horrible, stinking fart stain on their faces.
Change the whole policy immediately, cancel the failed contracts, and admit wrongdoing, then I will accept their apology.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:35:33 UTC No. 16413516
>>16413512
this is for direct to cell, not the BEAD funding for the dishes
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:41:34 UTC No. 16413519
Musk & Trump should preempt the Wednesday disaster, by shipping tens of thousands of Starlink terminals into the path, and enabling DTC across Florida BEFORE the corrupt FCC says okay.
Fuck you niggers in charge, make a point.
Major hurricane strikes WEDNESDAY, its MONDAY. Enable it all now, and fuck the FCC and democrats, who would only allow it with great restriction 2 weeks late.
The still have shit on their faces, and its NEVER coming off.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:42:25 UTC No. 16413520
>>16413512
smoke & mirrors
They're counting on FEMA blocking deliveries again. Except the plan will fail in FL because they don't have a dem governor who will remain passive and only activate 175 national guardsman for a statewide emergency. FL will be prepared.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:46:55 UTC No. 16413524
>>16413204
>this guy tried to call me out as dutch in 3 posts and has failed and gotten the wrong guy every time
did i give this guy PTSD?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:53:09 UTC No. 16413532
>>16413524
you are spiritually dutch
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:54:43 UTC No. 16413534
how much would a cup of coffee on Mars cost? visiting a Dutchman there would be very risky
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:00:35 UTC No. 16413539
>>16413534
do you grow your own beans? maybe $100. if not, then $50,000.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:10:54 UTC No. 16413546
>>16413534
Chicory is an adequate substitute
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:11:55 UTC No. 16413548
Free money
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18430
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:12:23 UTC No. 16413549
>>16413539
If we assume an order of magnitude decrease in cost per kilogram from F9 to Starship, it's actually about $7 a cup if you're shipping instant coffee.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:12:33 UTC No. 16413550
>>16413546
lol its tea
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:12:50 UTC No. 16413552
>>16413519
The track has way too much uncertainty to preemptively distribute them at scale.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:13:28 UTC No. 16413553
>>16413550
Coffee is also a kind of tea
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:16:27 UTC No. 16413554
>>16413553
Well, congratulations, you made me wonder and now I'm not sure if this is true or not. I am leaning slightly away from it being true, because the coffee bean is a part of the plant that is botanically desired for consumption, while tea is more like a vegetable, where you take the parts of the plant that don't really want to be eaten and consume them anyway. It's the same as the difference between fruits and vegetables.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:18:20 UTC No. 16413556
>>16413549
need to send about 5kg mass to orbit for 1kg to get into mars, or that is at least the ballpark numbers that musk has been saying
if we say 200 $/kg to LEO, then 1k $/kg to mars
you need something like 15g of ground coffee for a cup of filtered coffee (and 2.5dl water, which would cost something too depending on the state of development of the colony)
just the ground coffee would be $66
assuming you had a water reclamation system with 97% efficiency that would still be 7.5g of water
so about $100 is in the ballpark if you have $200/kg to LEO
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:25:49 UTC No. 16413562
>>16413556
Water should be basically free on the colony right from the start.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:25:52 UTC No. 16413563
>>16413550
The coffee substitute is much darker.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:31:44 UTC No. 16413566
>>16413556
Yes this is why many modern scifi stories involve people bringing live coffee seeds to grow off world. It becomes an investment, a small upmass for a planetary coffee monopoly. Chicory is much easier to grow outdoors on Earth, but in space all growth is artificial, so you just change the parameters in one greenhouse hab.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:32:36 UTC No. 16413568
>>16413552
The entire State of Florida could have DTC emergency communications established tomorrow, that will work on any nigger's phone with LTE, which is all phones.
Starlink stations can temporarily warehoused with all local first responders in likely path for non-partisan distribution.
Simply the right thing to do, because we CAN! What is up with this obstructionist bullshit, its a shit stain on Democrats.
>>16413550
>lol its pee
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:36:24 UTC No. 16413573
>>16413563
>no caffeine
whats the fucking point then lmaoooo
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:40:18 UTC No. 16413578
>>16413574
Bepis colony
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:42:25 UTC No. 16413579
>>16413556
4g a cup with instant coffee
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:44:17 UTC No. 16413581
>>16413579
Instant can be pretty good if its brewed with care and freeze dried rather than heat dried.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:48:52 UTC No. 16413584
>>16413554
So coffee is a soup, then? Or a broth?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:49:54 UTC No. 16413585
>>16413584
A juice
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:50:38 UTC No. 16413586
>>16413574
Based, now we're talking.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:55:45 UTC No. 16413592
>>16413562
it wont ever be free and certainly not from the start
even when the colony is somewhat advanced you can calculate the cost of water (you need to have the infrastructure and maintain it, which means both mass from earth through tools and labor of the actual colonists, the labour perhaps being more valuable here with the alternate things they could be doing)
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:57:35 UTC No. 16413595
>>16413592
Ok fine, so cheap as to be irrelevant to the cost of a cup of coffee.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 06:59:02 UTC No. 16413597
>>16413553
>>16413584
>>16413585
Coffee is a kind of infusion. Tea is also an infusion. "Tea" is it's own category within infusions, but I think coffee is pretty much its own thing within the broader term of infusions.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:02:13 UTC No. 16413601
>infusion
Pretty broad fucking term there pal
Soup is an infusion
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:04:35 UTC No. 16413605
>>16413604
There are loads of ESA projects to discuss like uhhhhhhh
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:07:20 UTC No. 16413606
>>16413604
Watching these losers try to talk 'kets is embarrassing.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:10:38 UTC No. 16413607
>>16413595
but thats not true
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:11:38 UTC No. 16413609
>>16413605
Hera is launching today funnily enough >>16412554
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:12:04 UTC No. 16413610
/sfg/ - stimulants and frappuccinos general
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:20:38 UTC No. 16413619
>>16413553
"tea" is a kind of leaf, not a drink
you can boil other leaves that are not "tea" and they have medically theraputic benefits
coffee is not tea, made from seeds not leaves
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 07:26:53 UTC No. 16413627
>>16413512
>>16413508
telecom industry is shitting itself in fear now that it's exposed how obsolete and compromised they truly are
good
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:03:59 UTC No. 16413652
>>16413649
>To further shift Blue’s culture, Limp highlighted a number of key leadership additions: Allen Parker as CFO after past executive finance roles at Zillow and Amazon; Jennifer Pena-Leanos as chief people officer, after running human resources in Limp’s prior Amazon Devices team; Ian Richardson as senior vice president of manufacturing operations after a long stint as SpaceX production director; and Tim Collins as the vice president of global supply chain after previously leading global operations for Flexport and Amazon.
> “We’d like to [be delivering] about an engine a week by the end of the year. I’m not sure we’ll get exactly to a week, but it’ll be sub-10 days … [and] by the end of 2025, we have to be faster than that,” Limp said.
>“It’ll be adventurous. It’ll be fun. I’m excited about it … but if we [don’t] stick the landing the first time, that’s OK. We’ve got another booster right behind it. We’ll build more,” Limp said.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:06:16 UTC No. 16413653
>>16413652
>Ian Richardson
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:08:58 UTC No. 16413657
>>16413653
Is there ANYTHING they don't shamelessly steal from SpaceX?
Good think SpaceX doesn't file patents on rocket concepts.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:10:47 UTC No. 16413660
>>16413657
yeah, products
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:16:30 UTC No. 16413666
>>16413657
getting to orbit
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:26:57 UTC No. 16413674
>>16413653
crazy how people get executive positions after working for a few years. 30 year olds should not be VPs.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:30:00 UTC No. 16413675
>>16413674
elon was like 31 when he started SpaceX
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:30:09 UTC No. 16413676
>>16413534
Is coffee good for you?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:33:44 UTC No. 16413678
>>16413676
woooah
are there anime featuring oneill cylinders :o
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:34:33 UTC No. 16413679
>>16413676
I'm drinking my 4th cup of coffee of the day right now
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:38:14 UTC No. 16413682
>>16413679
more than 3 cups a day causes alzheimers
https://alz.confex.com/alz/2024/mee
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:39:40 UTC No. 16413683
>>16413682
I don't believe you
not going to open that suspicious link
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:46:32 UTC No. 16413687
>>16413683
https://academic.oup.com/nutritionr
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:47:27 UTC No. 16413688
>>16413682
>correlation = causation
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:49:39 UTC No. 16413691
whats next for space warfare after missile defense? i need inspiration.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:50:18 UTC No. 16413692
>>16413682
It's a virus, don't click on that link.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:52:11 UTC No. 16413694
>>16413687
that confidence interval is so wide it makes the whole study pointless
if the effect exists, its minimal
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:56:35 UTC No. 16413699
>>16413682
I believe you but I don't care
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:57:25 UTC No. 16413702
>>16413687
>risk factors are causes
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:00:13 UTC No. 16413704
>>16413671
Unlikely due to the cape being on the opposite coast. Negligible storm surge and cat 1 winds at worst.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:03:43 UTC No. 16413707
>>16413692
This is true, it's a cogitohazard, I clicked it and now I'm not gay anymore
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:05:43 UTC No. 16413709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKz
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:13:39 UTC No. 16413715
>>16413683
zased
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:18:50 UTC No. 16413717
>>16413709
I didn't know I needed this until just now. Thank you anon, very cool
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:27:02 UTC No. 16413726
>>16413512
Why is the FAA so much worse than other agencies? The FDA gave Neuralink a breakthrough device designation and the FCC has been giving Starlink more and more bandwith
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:33:49 UTC No. 16413733
>>16413674
You should die a painful death
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:35:17 UTC No. 16413735
Imagine swimming in space
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:45:02 UTC No. 16413739
>>16413726
Agencies are made up of people. So you have the administration who is already hostile, but even worse are agency employees with a serious case of EDS scattered throughout the mid and low levels. The FAA just happens to have more than usual due to shitty hiring even by government standards because all the recruiting effort is spend on hiring and training air traffic controllers.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:53:38 UTC No. 16413744
>>16413676
Ive switched to paraxanthine. I sleep better, cum harder, and have a bunch of pre. Good stuff and feels like a smoother perk up
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:05:40 UTC No. 16413755
>>16413208
>Hypergolics
>difficult to reliable ignite
Dude, you fucking introduce the two substances together and they party.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:13:17 UTC No. 16413759
>>16413755
It's not that easy in hypergolery
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:33:24 UTC No. 16413770
>>16413737
needs a koozie
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:39:32 UTC No. 16413780
>>16413709
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1843
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:40:34 UTC No. 16413781
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:43:32 UTC No. 16413784
>>16413780
nasa: we need roggs from mars
spacex: hey we can do th-
nasa: NOT YOU
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:45:10 UTC No. 16413789
>>16413780
Starship will land an Electron rocket on Mars.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:46:06 UTC No. 16413791
>>16413789
Which will then be loaded back into Starship with a crane, and shipped back to earth
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:46:57 UTC No. 16413792
>>16413781
>mission architecture
>we propose using starship to land our pooper scooper and then return it
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:51:35 UTC No. 16413795
>>16413780
They'll send Peter Beck to personally retrieve roggs.
He's a hobbit so they'll get huge mass savings
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:03:50 UTC No. 16413814
>>16413780
What is the dollar value of this contract?
Under $1M?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:17:44 UTC No. 16413843
>>16413682
I think that between the aluminium powder and the microplastics it's basically inevitable on my end anyway
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:19:51 UTC No. 16413848
>>16413780
>>16413814
it's $625k, this is just who was chosen to go forward with further study out of all the submissions made a while back.
https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/fpdsp
Rocketlab, Spacex, Aerojet Rocketdyne, Whittinghill Aerospace, Quantum Space all received awards with varying descriptions
Rocketlab:
>Contractor to provide rapid studies for the Mars Sample Return (MSR) program."
SpaceX:
>CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE RESEARCH REPORTS ON STUDIES OF HOW TO BRING MARS SAMPLE BACK TO EARTH
AR:
>Contractor to provide research reports on studies about how to make MARS Ascent Vehicle lighter and more efficient.
Quantum Space:
>Contractor to provide research reports on studies of how to bring Mars Sample back to Earth.
Whittinghill:
>Contractor to provide research reports on studies about how to improve the MARS Ascent vehicle by making it lighter and more efficient.
curiously spacex shows an estimated completion date of their study of next week as theirs was awarded back in July. I doubt we'll get many public details but it might be worth a FOIA in a couple months if no additional details come out
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:23:58 UTC No. 16413855
>>16413848
adding to this, looks like some awards were above the 900k filter - BO got $1.3m, locksneed got $1.4m, northrop got $983k
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:37:03 UTC No. 16413878
>>16413780
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/184
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:40:49 UTC No. 16413888
>>16413755
It's not up to me man, they abandoned it because of lighting issues, I don't know why. The reason is probably scrawled on a 50yo piece of paper in an inaccessible file cabinet in Huntsville
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:42:30 UTC No. 16413891
>>16413855
le oldspace tax
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:46:09 UTC No. 16413896
>>16413878
The only viable plan is to build a rover to go get the samples, and launch it to Mars during the next window.
Of course this will need to be hosted by Starship, which will also have an orbiter and heavy capacity for a return to Mars orbit vehicle. And it will need payloads for the 2026 unmanned opportunity to go.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:59:02 UTC No. 16413900
>>16412873
there's a Dutch bank that once issued perpetual loan in 1600s and still keeps collecting on it
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 11:59:30 UTC No. 16413901
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRh
Hera status? Anyone? Last I heard, weather was only a 15% chance of go
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:00:55 UTC No. 16413903
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:01:11 UTC No. 16413905
>>16413901
We don't watch space launches here, we only talk about urfer politics.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:09:41 UTC No. 16413913
>>16413911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:10:23 UTC No. 16413914
>>16413911
Ambitious, for a company that has yet to launch anything but a sounding rocket.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:11:34 UTC No. 16413918
>>16413914
A sounding rocket that made it 46 out of its intended 80km I might add.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:12:34 UTC No. 16413920
>>16413919
Investor bait.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:12:44 UTC No. 16413921
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:14:48 UTC No. 16413925
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:15:50 UTC No. 16413927
https://x.com/PLD_Space/status/1843
> And to end on a high note...
>We present LINCE, Europe's first private manned mission program.
>We seek to equip Europe with the capability to transport astronauts into space and bring them back to Earth.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:17:52 UTC No. 16413930
>>16413920
>>16413918
>>16413914
certainly a ways to go
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:22:06 UTC No. 16413936
>>16413934
Its the cancelled Falcon 5. Gay!
How about something exciting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddS
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:22:33 UTC No. 16413937
>>16413934
I guess the Miura 5 >>16413919 here is a microlauncher but actually orbital instead of a sounding rocket
Then Miura Next is a F9 clone with a crewed capsule on top and 2 sidebooster Heavy and 4 sidebooster Super Heavy versions
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:24:12 UTC No. 16413940
>>16413936
no, for some reason Miura Next and Miura 5 both have 5 engines
I guess the Miura 5 has just smaller engines and they are going to develop completely new bigger engines for the F9 clone (Miura Next)
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:25:38 UTC No. 16413943
>>16413937
https://x.com/AndrewParsonson/statu
>Miura Next Heavy breakdown:
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:27:27 UTC No. 16413945
>>16413943
the fact that they are just (well other than the 5 engines) shamelessly copying Falcon 9 makes it more likely to happen IMO
one of the european smalllaunchers (and wannabe small launchers) will probably succeed eventually with the captured inner market of EU
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:27:29 UTC No. 16413946
>>16413936
New Shephard Mission NS-27 Webcast
Delayed by 3 hours.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:27:58 UTC No. 16413947
>>16413896
Why not have percy deliver the samples to whatever they end up sending?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:28:29 UTC No. 16413948
>>16413945
https://x.com/AndrewParsonson/statu
>Miura Next Super Heavy breakdown:
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:29:30 UTC No. 16413951
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:30:25 UTC No. 16413955
>PLDspace
more like OLDspace
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:31:10 UTC No. 16413959
Enough of this PLD shit, at this point you're just spamming.
Summarize it when its over, or post the .pdf of slides, we don't need 55 posts of that shit
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:32:08 UTC No. 16413960
>>16413913
>hey you seen that video with spacex landing 2 boosters?
>could you copy that and add two more boosters in the background?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:33:00 UTC No. 16413962
>>16413959
Yeah especially when there's so much other quality news going around like musk talking about politics or trump talking about politics or how Americans aren't white
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:34:19 UTC No. 16413965
>>16413962
So it's either politics or rockets that will only ever exists in powerpoint slides?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:34:59 UTC No. 16413967
>>16413965
Yes and the FAA is to blame
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:35:24 UTC No. 16413968
>>16413961
>moon transfer capable
wow they're just saying any old thing now.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:36:27 UTC No. 16413970
>>16413962
Hera and New Shepard are launching TODAY. SpaceX is preparing the full stack for IFT-5 full wet dress rehearsal. Today.
Who cares about some AI generated Falcon copy, its all empty promises, do you think we fucking care?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:37:56 UTC No. 16413973
>>16413968
yeah seems like they are promising basically anything lmao
but you could argue that planning the architecture to have a 2 booster and 4 booster version from the start is better than trying to tack it on later, which probably makes it more complicated
but they haven't even reached orbit yet
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:44:28 UTC No. 16413981
>>16413919
>They fell for the undersized second stage meme
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:49:00 UTC No. 16413986
>>16413965
Welcome to pre-SpaceX /sfg/
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:52:29 UTC No. 16413989
>>16413986
Painful desu
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:05:45 UTC No. 16413996
>>16413000
threadly reminder that the dude who predicted Trump being shot in the ear also predicted he would win and the 2nd Great Depression would begin shortly thereafter
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:27:02 UTC No. 16414011
>>16413986
There was never any such thing.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:30:38 UTC No. 16414014
I just woke up, how's the weather for hera?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:31:03 UTC No. 16414015
>>16413213
有种你再说一遍
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:33:03 UTC No. 16414016
>>16414014
The webcast still begins in ~75 minutes
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mis
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:34:59 UTC No. 16414020
>>16413573
You could extract caffeine from a plant that is easier to grow and add it to a coffee substitute that is a closer approximation to coffee in terms of aroma, color and flavor.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:38:16 UTC No. 16414022
>>>/pol/484064541
Based thread
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:41:07 UTC No. 16414023
>>16413674
VP is not an executive position. Even SVP is not an executive position. In large corporations a VP title is frequently given to someone who deals with other organizations in order to make those at the other organization feel like they're being taken seriously.
Some consulting firms have more VPs than non-VPs.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:43:16 UTC No. 16414024
>>16413678
>this radius
>oneill cylinder
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:43:56 UTC No. 16414027
Just got around to watching S1 of For All Mankind. The plot lines are shit but the lyrics did a great job on the lunar surface sets
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:45:43 UTC No. 16414028
>>16413678
gundam is all about oneill cylinders
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:46:25 UTC No. 16414031
>>16414027
the plot is just going to get worse, much worse
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:47:15 UTC No. 16414032
>>16413970
This is a 4chan thread about spaceflight you fucking retard, you post about rockets until we hit page ten and then we do it again
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:47:16 UTC No. 16414033
>>16414027
>lyrics
Writers lmao, fucking phone posting kms
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:47:48 UTC No. 16414034
>>16413687
>relative risk < 1 for less than 4 cups per day
This is evidence that normal levels of coffee consumption are correlated with positive outcomes.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:52:08 UTC No. 16414038
>>16413880
>spaniards
Good luck finding 10 people who are willing to work 40 hour weeks in the whole country, let alone a whole company's worth of hard workers. They will never build anything.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:53:25 UTC No. 16414041
>>16413911
in reality: zero boosters landing ever
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:28:41 UTC No. 16414078
europa clipper's second stage isn't reentering either is it? so that mission should be go to launch too, barring weather issues
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:35:39 UTC No. 16414083
Is Hera a cool mission?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:35:55 UTC No. 16414084
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1843298
live
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:36:52 UTC No. 16414087
>>16412728
Don't forget. You're here forever
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:37:29 UTC No. 16414089
>>16414083
I think so, it's gonna go check out the rock that DART impacted, I'm eager to see what the artificial crater looks like up close.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:41:58 UTC No. 16414093
The FAA currently has a proposed rule that would require evaluations of design and equipment as it relates to "cyber security" specifically as it relates to airplanes being more connected to the internet and it calls out satalites specifically. I can't help but wonder if this will not be used as yet another way to attack starlink, requiring more analysis, and paperwork, when the FAA is already overloaded.
I am willing to bet they will grandfather in old systems too, so it will keep the entrenched players in, while starlink needs to slog through red tape to replace the old providers.
The FAA didn't care about connectivity, until SpaceX came and provided a good service and began taking over.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:42:36 UTC No. 16414094
This better be good.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:43:16 UTC No. 16414095
>>16414094
it's a falcon launch. you've seen them before. you know what they look like.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:44:08 UTC No. 16414097
>>16414095
yeah but this one has john insprucker on commentary
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:45:28 UTC No. 16414098
oh it's john reddit
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:49:33 UTC No. 16414099
>>16413878
Hmm
Is it money for a concept study or Phase A of a contract to actually do MSR
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:49:53 UTC No. 16414100
never noticed the rocket wobbling a bit as the arm retracts before
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:52:47 UTC No. 16414102
>wooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:55:42 UTC No. 16414103
>>16411492
Anyone else saw the spinning heads?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:56:07 UTC No. 16414105
fairing sep
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:56:53 UTC No. 16414106
>>16414027
This just got me thinking, what's a better tv series about space programs, For all Mankind or Irina the Vampire Cosmonaut?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:57:07 UTC No. 16414107
>zip ties on your 363 million euro payload
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:57:17 UTC No. 16414108
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:57:53 UTC No. 16414109
>>16414107
yeah, what of it? you want it to cost 364 million euros?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:58:18 UTC No. 16414110
>observation
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:58:24 UTC No. 16414111
HERA going to end up with shaken baby syndrome at this rate
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:59:19 UTC No. 16414112
It's so fucking over
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:00:20 UTC No. 16414113
When is the booster going to land?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:01:46 UTC No. 16414116
>>16414113
The first stage just popped, they cut away from it
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:01:48 UTC No. 16414117
>>16414108
>>16414110
>>16414112
samefag doomer
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:03:03 UTC No. 16414122
>>16414112
Had one last ride
Gave it all she got
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:03:30 UTC No. 16414123
>>16414113
Never, it was sacrificed to the god of delta-v
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:03:31 UTC No. 16414124
>>16414113
>this mission marks the 23rd and final launch for this Falcon 9 first stage booster, which previously launched Crew-1, Crew-2, SXM-8, CRS-23, IXPE, Transporter-4, Transporter-5, Globalstar FM15, ISI EROS C-3, Korea 425, Maxar 1, ASBM, and 10 Starlink missions
>>16414117
what, it's funny
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:03:36 UTC No. 16414125
>>16414113
right about now
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:04:48 UTC No. 16414129
>>16414124
I didn't realize they allowed reused boosters on crewed flights as early as crew-2. I thought that was a newer thing
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:04:55 UTC No. 16414130
>>16414106
For All Mankind is more accurate and grounded (within reason, compared to anime) but certain elements leave a bad taste in your mouth.
Irina has less substance but handles the limited story well, the whole vampire thing is mostly a red herring since they're basically just gypsies with a skin condition. I'd like a season 2 where they ramp up to a moon race, that'd be neat.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:06:54 UTC No. 16414133
>>16414106
>what's a better tv series about space programs, For all Mankind or Irina the Vampire Cosmonaut?
Watch Star Cops instead
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:07:14 UTC No. 16414134
>>16414106
Planetes
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:07:14 UTC No. 16414135
>>16413674
He's like 40
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:08:24 UTC No. 16414136
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:09:20 UTC No. 16414137
>>16414106
not enough glimpse behind the Iron Curtain to see what went right to make the Soviets win the race in their timeline.
Irina was neat. Would like to know how much research into the actual Soviet space program was done to fill in the notSoviet details.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:09:27 UTC No. 16414138
>>16414106
Rocket Girls. Doesn't take much to be better than SENPAI
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:10:16 UTC No. 16414140
>>16414138
Nobody ever mentions this one, but I liked it.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:11:44 UTC No. 16414144
>>16414138
not many other series use PHYSICS to explain why it is CG doing the CT
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:15:40 UTC No. 16414149
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_
Weird
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:15:54 UTC No. 16414150
>>16414147
But NSF says there is no evacuation order.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:16:06 UTC No. 16414151
>>16414129
I'm always amazed at how many historic missions these things have
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:16:52 UTC No. 16414153
>>16413930
I like this guy's physiognomy
very conquistadore
>>16413934
this guy not so much
I give them 50% chance of making it
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:17:37 UTC No. 16414154
>>16414130
Irina is based on a series of light novels, the first season is book 1 and 2 and there's 7 volumes all together. Weirdly book 3 seems to be about the fake US trying to mix vampires into their space program but it looks like they get to the moon eventually.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:19:18 UTC No. 16414155
>>16414137
>not enough glimpse behind the Iron Curtain to see what went right to make the Soviets win the race in their timeline
They're doing a spin off of For all Mankind called Star City that's supposedly all about that.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:22:18 UTC No. 16414157
>>16414154
No news of a second season as of early this year.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:28:08 UTC No. 16414162
>>16414022
giving this nu/pol/ creature a pity (you) since nobody else wanted to give him a little attention.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:33:54 UTC No. 16414164
>>16414155
Korolev not dying?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:34:22 UTC No. 16414165
>>16413955
This but unironically, they were founded in 2011 and only got a sounding rocket to reach 46km.
Also
>Want to launch in late 2025
>Don't have an engine test fired
>Hope to do "turbopump qualification" before the end of the year
>Uses two different engines types for S1 and S2.
ngmi
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:36:19 UTC No. 16414168
>>16414165
they are going to use a completely new engine for Miura 5?
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:38:12 UTC No. 16414172
>>16414167
Why aren't we colonizing Didymos? It's almost as big as mars.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:38:23 UTC No. 16414173
>>16414137
Reading the Kamanin diaries certainly makes you wish for a series about it. It'd certainly be grim tho, his diaries are just depressing, guy quit soon after Soyuz 11 after all..
>That time gagarin broke some bone while jumping out of a window to avoid his wife while he was flirting with some nurse?
>"On his return from space he landed successfully. Here, unsuccessfully.”, the other vostok cosmonauts used to joke
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:38:53 UTC No. 16414174
>>16414172
because it looks like a rapist
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:39:33 UTC No. 16414175
>>16414155
Korolev doesn't die, soviet material science is a little further ahead than reality so that they can make valves for the NK-15 that can be opened (and shut) hydraulically. This means they would be able to test fire engines before launch
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:39:57 UTC No. 16414178
>>16414168
Two completely new GG engines yes (~200 kN and 70 kN respectively). The miura 1 engine is pressure fed.
Then Miura Next will use a completely new kerolox ORSC engine (~1100kN).
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:40:20 UTC No. 16414179
>Juventas and Milani
did they call the two cubesats after football teams? lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:41:13 UTC No. 16414180
>>16414178
what the fuck
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:45:07 UTC No. 16414186
SES-2
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:49:18 UTC No. 16414194
>>16414180
Yeah it's stupid, they've long shown that their propulsion team is definitely not one of Europe's best and fastest.
Shame, putting 9 (or maybe 12-13!) of their 200kN engine would give a rocket that'd be quite larger than all their european competitor, and actually in a range where retropropulsive recovery starts to be viable.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:50:04 UTC No. 16414196
in other news jeff is testing his new sounding rocket
https://www.blueorigin.com/live
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:51:26 UTC No. 16414198
>>16414196
>>16414197
Sir, this is a space flight general.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:54:20 UTC No. 16414202
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 16:27:35 UTC No. 16414250
>>16413927
>>16413928
>>16413930
Everytime I see PLD Space, I think it's a typo from OLD Space. The keys are right next to each other!
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 22:29:58 UTC No. 16414749
>>16413848
>we launch starship
>with optimus onboard
>optimus has a deployable solar pack that doubles as a sunshade
>optimus goes on a journey
>walks to the samples
>bends over and picks them up
>stores them into a carry on pack
>walks back
>4K streaming connection to Starship with overhead Marslink at all times
>optimus returns to Starship
>takes the elevator back up
>Starship launches on a free ballistic trajectory back to Earth
>sample retrieved
>least complex architecture ever
>check pls
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 22:31:55 UTC No. 16414750
>>16413937
>>16413943
>>16413945
>>16413948
>>16413951
>RocketLab aesthetics and sizing with SpaceX vision
Good on them.
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Oct 2024 01:04:22 UTC No. 16414909
>>16413375
this is true
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Oct 2024 06:18:17 UTC No. 16415183
>>16415075
That's what happens when jannies delete threads, shartyfag.
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Oct 2024 09:20:50 UTC No. 16415374
how is this still on page 9
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Oct 2024 09:46:12 UTC No. 16415388
>>16415374
Spam thread production seems to have taken a hit.