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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16450266

Shoulders of Mechanical Giants edition

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Anonymous No. 16450268

first for pebbles

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Anonymous No. 16450271

Bezos left holding his dick (literal) for 24 years still nothing to show for it.

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Anonymous No. 16450272

Reminder this was staged at page 10, ignore any seething from the failstager that states otherwise.

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Anonymous No. 16450273

>>16450266
Seems like a lot of bloat. Lots of redundant members not doing anything. Delete it all

Anonymous No. 16450274

>>16450273
elon musk go take your horse medicine.

Anonymous No. 16450283

>>16450272
but there is no other thread other than the one that went to page 10? is this a pre-emptive measure or something

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Anonymous No. 16450284

hi guys :D don't forget about me

Anonymous No. 16450290

Now that Harris looks to be losing, is Bill Nelson going full unhinged political and asking to lock up Musk?

Anonymous No. 16450291

>>16450283
yes, because the early stager is actually this autistically obsessed with breaking the rule, he got burnt during IFT-5, spammed like a retard, got banned, and has been on a crusade ever since.

Anonymous No. 16450292

>>16450284
Why? Your not gonna be doing anything interesting for years.

Anonymous No. 16450293

Has anyone found out what happened to that astronaut that was taken to hospital yet? It seems weird that they're keeping it secret unless the lady got knocked up or something.

Anonymous No. 16450295

>>16450293
She's space pregant. Zero-G caused hyper-fertilization, she's having octuplets.

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Anonymous No. 16450299

>>16450284
stfu

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Anonymous No. 16450307

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1850002750417048043
>Starship 33 has been revealed! Shown fully assembled for the first time. This is the first next generation design Starship and is expected to fly on flight 7.
>10/25/24

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Anonymous No. 16450309

In 10 days, Elon will be either the most powerful man in the world or uberfucked.

Anonymous No. 16450321

>>16450309
He's fucked either way, largest scam artist in human history. Sells scam cars that kill people. You should really watch ThunderF00t on Youtube, then you'll see what he's really like.

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Anonymous No. 16450322

>>16450309
Elon should've just kept his fucking mouth shut and quietly lobbied both parties like the defense, real estate, and oil industry does. By openly supporting a side he puts himself in a situation where he can actually lose.
>b-but lobbying bad and speaking his mind is the honest thing to do
it's not about integrity, it's about making sure he can actually achieve his goal of colonizing Mars.

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Anonymous No. 16450330

>>16450309
The biggest play in history

Anonymous No. 16450332

>>16450322
Lobbying won't make you able to make the drastic changes necessary to achieve that goal. He took a bet, and if he wins he will be in a far better position for these next four absolutely crucial years than if he just kept his mouth shut and remained non political.

Anonymous No. 16450333

>>16450309
Hell of a fucking gamble for the man to bet fully on one Trump instead of playing both sides. Hope it's worth it then.

Anonymous No. 16450336

>>16450309
In 10 days from now, I'll be here either doomposting ironically as a way of coping, or gaanposting as a way of celebrating.

Anonymous No. 16450339

>>16450333
The die was cast with the last election and the draconian tyrannies exercised in it.

Anonymous No. 16450341

>>16450309
some swing states have said its going to take like 10-13 days to count the fucking votes
so 10 days might be the election day, but this thing might drag out if trump doesn't win decisively in a landslide

Anonymous No. 16450342

>>16450322
A week ago I agreed with you. This goes beyond Elon. There's a big schism among the elite right now, new money (tech) is on Trump. Elon is just a sperg about it (like everything else). Keep in mind that in the last five years they have
>released a man made virus during the presidency of the first guy not hand picked by the CIA since Nixon
>stolen the election like they do in third world countries
>had their guys rally radicals to storm the capital like they do in third world countries
These people are obsessed with power for it's own sake. They would kill everyone not in their grasp if they could get away with it. Elon isn't exaggerating, these people are anti human extinctionists. No matter what friends he makes, no matter what money he spends, they wouldn't let Mars happen for the same reason they didn't let South Africa happen, and attempted to prevent America from happening before that.

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Anonymous No. 16450343

>>16450332
If he loses then the democrats will do everything they can to charge him with crimes and seize his assets. Besides Trump only has four more years, there's no guarantee that the next republican candidate has his charisma, and the next democrat candidate will still want him put away. Elon can probably get to Mars in four years, but he won't be doing much after that if the pendulum swings back left for the 2028 election.
Betting on the next four years isn't worth it when he needs a decade to secure a Martian colony.

Anonymous No. 16450345

>>16450343
JD Vance is pretty charismatic actually

EBOK No. 16450350

Fags

Anonymous No. 16450352

europa clipper more like gayropa shitter haha

Anonymous No. 16450354

>>16450343
He wouldn't be able to do it at all if he didn't take this bet. You're not going to be able to launch Starship at the cadance and scale required for it period. Deregulation needs to happen, which he needs to support Trump for happening.

Anonymous No. 16450364

who would musk prefer as next potus?
JD vance
or
DEsantis

or
a wildcard/dem?

Anonymous No. 16450368

>>16450342
please go back to your containment board sweetie, /sci/ isn't for you

Anonymous No. 16450372

>>16450341
God I fucking hate US politics.

Anonymous No. 16450375

>>16450364
De Santis if he bends the knee
Vance can be after DeSantis with Barron as his VP

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Anonymous No. 16450378

>>16450271

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Anonymous No. 16450379

Spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16450380

>>16450378
brutal

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Anonymous No. 16450381

>>16450295
>she's having octuplets.
Octojellys

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Anonymous No. 16450383

>>16450378
Man, I kinda feel bad about that.

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Anonymous No. 16450395

>>16450341
That's how long they think it's going to take to get fake mail-in votes printed in China and then, oops look at what we found behind a disused lavatory!
>>16450372
It's all from the corrupt Demorats. Reminder that from Reagan to 2016 we only had Democrats and Bushes as POTUS. It's also likely that Obama is one of the people behind what happened in 2020, the only president not to just fuck off and retire, he fucking moved to DC after his 8 years.
>>16450343
>there's no guarantee that the next republican candidate has his charisma
He actually found a VP candidate who isn't the typical Neocon box of rocks, and there's still DeSantis.

And now it's time for me to find an airlock so I can get back to talking about spess.

Anonymous No. 16450396

>>16450291
did someone really get mindbroken by the tower catch?

Anonymous No. 16450411

>>16450341
5th circuit court blocked this shit yesterday, citing federal law which overrides state law. Not this time fucko.

Anonymous No. 16450423

>>16450396
some anon was doing early stages long before tower catch

Anonymous No. 16450426

seal status?

Anonymous No. 16450429

>>16450426
tortured

Anonymous No. 16450434

>>16450426
Forced to listen to mumble rap.

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Anonymous No. 16450447

>>16450426
rocking to metal

Anonymous No. 16450454

>>16450322
Biden administration and Californian government started fucking with Elon before Elon got partisan.

Anonymous No. 16450458

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TViIk4Py6lc

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Anonymous No. 16450463

>>16450426
In peril

Anonymous No. 16450466

>>16450454
I remember when Biden didn't bother to invite Tesla and Elon to this EV initiative meeting back in 2021. It was the moment I felt that the administration was on the warpath against Elon from then on.

Anonymous No. 16450468

>>16450379
so did the shuttle thing prove to be a success?
im excited to hear more about it!

Anonymous No. 16450471

>>16450272
yeah that guy is a freak. he made a second page 10 bake a few threads ago since he's totally demented
>his late bake
>>16447313
>the real page 10 bake
>>16447194
he even bizarrely had threads ready to delete (I checked and I noticed a lot of frog threads suddenly disappeared) so it seems he always has shitposting threads here to delete as needed so he can force a "real" page 10 bake.
what a fucking autistic loser I'm actually kind of shocked. pretty sure he's also that early staging retard so he's just having a big mental trauma.

Anonymous No. 16450473

>>16450307
Why build version 2 when they already have version 3 planned out?
Why go out of your way to have an out of date design even before it flies

Anonymous No. 16450475

>>16450466
Exactly. The DNC had already picked Elon as a target to stir up public sentiment against because he was
>wealthy
>visible and widely known
>a white male from south africa
>ran non-union companies
They probably also figured he would be an easy target, with republicans not coming to his defense, because republicans don't like electric cars. They miscalculated on this count; republicans don't Elon's cars but they don't hold that against the man personally.

Anonymous No. 16450476

>>16450322
>quietly ignores the fact that Demonrats chose to harass Musk before Biden even got elected

Anonymous No. 16450477

>>16450434
>mumble rap
something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDakzFJfZ4c

Anonymous No. 16450479

>>16450342
dont forget its not just a manmade virus, its a manmade virus funded by the Fauci and his allies AND elites like Bill Gates and WEF working to depopulate earth because they believe there are too many humans alive

Anonymous No. 16450490

>>16450479
Isnt blob gates a new money?

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Anonymous No. 16450498

>>16450490
No. His parents were rich, and their parents, and their parents too. Bill Gate's great grandfather was the president of a bank. By American standards this makes Bill Gates "Old Money".

Granted, none of them were nearly as rich as Bill. But nonetheless, they were rich.

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Anonymous No. 16450500

>>16450490
billg's parents were already elites, he just happened to become a nerd hero in spite of that

Anonymous No. 16450503

>>16450498
Bill's great-grandfather; his mother's grandfather:
>James Willard Maxwell (1864–1951), was president of the National City Bank in Seattle from 1911 to 1929 and a director of the Seattle branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.
director of a branch of the federal reserve. big deal, even if his great-grandson has since eclipsed him.

Anonymous No. 16450504

>>16450473
v3 is probably a paper rocket at this point, so need to do engineering work for it and some of it will be informed by the testing done on v2

Anonymous No. 16450505

>>16450471
this is why we must adhere strictly to the staging rule now to spite these people as hard as possible, schizophrenics should be bullied everywhere they go for being obnoxious losers.

Anonymous No. 16450506

>>16450307
hop wen?

Anonymous No. 16450507

>>16450155
Wow holy shit. TRUCE. Based Bezos!!! BB

Anonymous No. 16450510

>>16450475
I don't think its really that republican don't like EVs, its more like they don't like this specific thing being forced down their throats, especially as EVs have been pretty expensive

Anonymous No. 16450511

Anyone else having problems with 4chan's new update? No matter what I do I keep gettting redirected to /pol/.

Anonymous No. 16450512

>>16450479
you are retarded and a schizo, not everything is connected, sometimes shit just happens, in this case chink fucked up and ate bat soup.

fucking hell i hate connectedbrained retards like you because you're basically a tool for these big orgs, you unknowingly create a bunch of perfect reasons for normalfags to never ever engage with conspiracies, no matter how well-founded and sketchy they are, because they're scared of being labeled the same group as you people.
methinks it's unironically a strat for the deep state to get morons like you riled up so nobody ever actually looks into shit.

Anonymous No. 16450516

>>16450510
They think hybrids and EVs are for weird nerds of questionable sexuality. Even now that my father loves Elon Musk for being aligned with Trump, he can't stop ranting about dick sucking faggots in teslas and how ugly the cybertruck is.

Anonymous No. 16450520

>>16450504
im mostly annoyed because v3 has 6 vac engines which look much nicer and gives engine out redundancy. also the stetch tanks of v3 are necessary to have the performance to complete artemis, so v2 is sort of a waste of time. The single benefit i see is they will waste less vac engines on losing dev ships

Anonymous No. 16450524

>>16450516
thats pretty funny

Anonymous No. 16450529

>>16450512
wasn't the lab leak confirmed?

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Anonymous No. 16450533

>>16450511
they'll have a fix for that in two weeks

Anonymous No. 16450540

>>16450490
his money is entrenched. he retired from microsoft more than 20 years ago in 2000 and has been doing background elite stuff. He was funding the covid "bat lady" researcher from the Wuhan Labs AND he was at the same time funding the same vaccine company, of which he profited billions right as covid took to the stage. He then divested from the company right after his vaccine company skyrocktted

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Anonymous No. 16450546

>no big launches in a week
>immediately descends into pol and x tier bait

Anonymous No. 16450548

>>16450529
Yes. We even have crimes of wrong doings by Fauci and his various friends trying to scrub all evidence, not using gov emails for fear of discovery, asking FOIA (freedom of information act) lady on how to scrub from search results by replacing word characters with numbers and shit to hide from transparency records, using personal emails, etc.

Anonymous No. 16450553

>>16450548
can you show literally any evidence for this?

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>>16450516
>he can't stop ranting about dick sucking faggots in teslas and how ugly the cybertruck is
True and based

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Anonymous No. 16450559

Favorite Ivpiterian moon?
For me, it's Callisto.

Anonymous No. 16450560

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/why-is-elon-musk-talking-to-vladimir-putin-and-what-does-it-mean-for-spacex/
>. He has used social network X (formerly Twitter) to push an increasingly partisan viewpoint and peddled a stream of ideas and theories that can accurately be described as misinformation.

huh? like what?
one that comes to mind is that Pelosi husband gay hammer thing but was he really "peddling" that as much as asking if its true or not

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Anonymous No. 16450562

>>16450546
Well, this is now /sfg/ - Schizo Frenzy General. Which means that discussing VASIMR is now finally on topic :)

Anonymous No. 16450565

>>16450546
Tell Elon to push for an election night Flight-6

Anonymous No. 16450566

>>16450562
electric engines are for mass cucks

Anonymous No. 16450569

>>16450560
to add to this, the article reads like run of the mill partisan mainstream "news", which is pretty disappointing, peddling many of the talking points they peddle (without actually being necessarily true at least to the extent that the things get repeated)
the fact that the news just pretends that a multi-year attack on Musk hasn't been going on and this WSJ story is just something new and unprecedented (and as such should not be taken with a massive grain of salt due to previous bullshit claims) is itself quite partisan IMO

Anonymous No. 16450571

>>16450512
Not him and this is a good point and it pisses me off how the conspiracy became a catch-all totally washed out term, just like "racism". Of course that helps real racists and crazy conspiracy kooks and hurts immensely reasonable people who have reasonable doubts that are being silenced and discarded as "conspiracy". And when the media shut down a certain point of view as a "conspiracy" they always exploit this tactic. They try to lump all the "doubters" together to discredit and ridicule those who have reasonable concerns by finding and quoting more extreme points of view on the same topic.

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Anonymous No. 16450573

Speaking of schizoshit, what happened to the QI drive? I know the one launched in 2023 apparently had like a malfunction or something, did a second one ever get launched and tested?
Even if it's retarded, I wish it was real so spaceflight would be so much easier.

Anonymous No. 16450575

>>16450569
to add yet again, funnily enough Berger hasn't actually posted the article on his X feed for some reason
why?

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Anonymous No. 16450576

>>16450559
Amalthea for the view
>muh radiation belt
We're removing that

Anonymous No. 16450578

>>16450569
>>16450560
>that can accurately be described as misinformation
Really disapointed how Berger came out as an NPC shilling leftwing propaganda like that. Its not based on fact but rather on reputational laundering assertions pushed as "fact".

Anonymous No. 16450579

>>16450575
he's embarrassed by it and knows he'll be berated for it

Anonymous No. 16450580

>>16450477
I dunno. I don't listen to jungle noises.

Anonymous No. 16450583

>>16450576
>Amalthea
I was going to say the same, anon... you copycat.

Anonymous No. 16450586

>>16450578
yeah and something as clearly as propaganda as this
fucking anonymous random sources
give me a fucking break

Its like writing an article about Berger that I heard from some anoymous sources that he likes to fuck dogs, and that there was an article like this a few years ago too implying this somehow makes the claim more believable

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Anonymous No. 16450588

>>16450566
They are key for flights beyond Mars

Anonymous No. 16450589

>>16450571
exactly, my guess is they get a few paid plants to rile up the connectedbrains in order to peddle a new bullshit schizo "theory" every so often
flattards were clearly an example of this, it makes perfect fucking sense that this was a minor little movement that got co-opted and signal boosted by cianigs in order create a perfect strawmen attack against anyone with serious evidence of a real conspiracy behind closed doors.
whistleblowers just get ignored because of this.

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Anonymous No. 16450595

https://x.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/1849937778747781305

even foust is posting this in an extremely disingenuous way
Nelson didn't say the report is concerning, he said that IF the report is true, that is concerning
this is completely different
If Foust fucked dogs on the regular, that would be concerning
the fact that someone posted some shitpost article about Foust fucking dogs is in itself not really concerning

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Anonymous No. 16450597

>>16450595
https://spacenews.com/nelson-says-reports-of-musk-putin-conversations-concerning/
>WASHINGTON — NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said he is concerned about reports that Elon Musk, chief executive of SpaceX, has had discussions with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
>“I don’t know that that story is true,” Nelson said at the conference. “I think it should be investigated. If the story is true that there have been multiple conversations between Elon Musk and the president of Russia, then I think that would be concerning, particularly for NASA, for the Department of Defense, for some of the intelligence agencies.”

incredibly disingenous even at the start of the article
why are they doing this?

Anonymous No. 16450600

>>16450595
I think Musk entering into the political theater has buck-broken Foust and his subtle EDS

Anonymous No. 16450602

>>16450595
Nelson actually said Musk should be investigated.
AND THEN, said if if its [after investigation], then its concerning.
Political partisan brainrot in fullswing. Its just another reputation laundering.

Anonymous No. 16450610

>>16450600
both Berger and Foust have destroyed their reputations as objective neutral reporters with this
not sure whats going on here, are they personally writing these due to being very pro-democrat? are they being pressured by their editors somehow? is there some editorializing going on and their names are put on these stories to give them more believable (as both journalists have had good reputations until now of mainly being objective and factual)

>>16450602
reputation laundering makes sense but they have to see that this makes them seem partisan, no?
and if Trump wins, which he is favoured to do at this point, then this torpedoing of their reputations was all for nothing pretty much
why comment at all?

Anonymous No. 16450611

I am DEEPLY concerned by recent reports that some anons here think they hate journalists enough. They do not.

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>>16450595
I would simply not speak privately to foreign adversaries!

Anonymous No. 16450616

>>16450610
>why comment at all
They have nothing left to lose now. Right now the reputation laundering to hurt Musk is to sink Trumps' allies so that he doesn't win. The attack angle on Musk is as such, "Trump is close with a guy who is betraying the country by talking to Russians in secret! WOW HOW UNAMERICAN! TRUMP HAS THAT GUY CLOSE TO HIM? A NAZI RUSSIAN ASSET!!!"
What has Bill Nelson to lose if Trump wins? He'll be dead by the end of Trump's term anyway. But he has more to gain by pushing his political partisan views so that his leftist party wins the election

Anonymous No. 16450617

>>16450611
Breaking story anon, keep us updated as it develops.

Anonymous No. 16450621

>>16450309
>uberfucked
how?

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Anonymous No. 16450623

>Starlink is heavily used by Ukraine
>SpaceX is the biggest reason the US still has space superiority over China and Russia
>Elon wants to move away from fossil fuels which will make the west less dependent on Russian exports
>Elon builds all his factories in the US, protecting American jobs and trade
>his other companies are keeping the west ahead in technology and economy
and yet despite all that, he's considered a russian spy because he allegedly talked to Putin a few times? wtf is wrong with these people. Elon has done more for the west and America than every 21st century democrat party politician and voter combined.

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>>16450426

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Anonymous No. 16450636

>>16450426
suffocating

Anonymous No. 16450638

why did berger turn on elon anyway? why throw away your journalistic integrity? do they have dirt on berger?

Anonymous No. 16450639

>>16450633
this seal was so fucked man, he didn't have a chance fighting against a fucking genius predator like that.

Anonymous No. 16450640

>>16450638
Berger cant help with the torrent of propaganda coming his way. He's held out pretty long but with Berger along with Foust, they're just cracking

Anonymous No. 16450642

>>16450426
leaking helium

Anonymous No. 16450643

>>16450638
maybe some dogfucking kompromat

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Anonymous No. 16450644

new sloss
>A deep dive into the Artemis III Low Earth Orbit alternative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGT-8PHSVso

Anonymous No. 16450645

>>16450511
/pol/ world sadly

Anonymous No. 16450647

>>16450639
He escaped though?

Anonymous No. 16450648

>>16450644
This is just so Orion has something to do, isn't it

Anonymous No. 16450649

>>16450512
>it's just coincidence that a biowarfare lab was researching gain of function in coronaviruses in the city where the coronavirus pandemic started
you are very smart

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Anonymous No. 16450650

go fuck yourselves, Grauniad

Anonymous No. 16450660

>>16450623
>because he allegedly talked to Putin a few times
It's the sound bite narrative that sticks when it comes to EDS atm. Pretty close to the election too. Screw long-term consequences or whatnot should the accusations be nothingburger, gotta cancel him NOW.

Anonymous No. 16450661

>>16450660
Truth doesn't matter anyways, people will associate him with that now.

Anonymous No. 16450664

>>16450661
I just call them retarded NPCs, whenever I hear anyone parrot anything the mainstream media says.

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Anonymous No. 16450665

journoscum waited too long to dredge up anything about elon that could actually stick. ironically if they hadn't had EDS for so many years their accusations may have held some weight now but they blew their social capital so they simply are speaking to the zealots now. markets have spoken though. the invisible hand remains supreme. A second Trump presidency and the true dawn of the Space Age is coming

Anonymous No. 16450667

>>16450636
what the fuck is that

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Anonymous No. 16450670

>>16450665
No one trusts media except the demonrats, even then demonrats know better than that

Anonymous No. 16450672

>>16450638
I wonder if he'll crawl back after this whole thing blows over or will people perpetually remind him of whatever partisan nonsense he's doing now.

Anonymous No. 16450673

>>16450667
supposedly it's an eel that's stuck in the seal's nose, it's not an uncommon thing strangely enough

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Anonymous No. 16450677

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1849914261482652113?t=ZEymg64rwuY4LUn-ogcYmQ

transcript of the diablo 4 call

Anonymous No. 16450678

>nsf are our last hope for space news
we're doomed

Anonymous No. 16450680

>>16450670
fuck off poltard, stop shitting up the thread

Anonymous No. 16450681

sad that the only people pro-space now are /pol/tards. leftists and liberals are simply anti-human. worse than wild hogs. need to be put down

Anonymous No. 16450682

>>16450681
half of poltards think that space is fake

Anonymous No. 16450684

>>16450682
100% of liberals and leftists think spaceflight is racist and that blacks need the money more

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Anonymous No. 16450686

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850192346274836746

Anonymous No. 16450688

>>16450681
>>16450684
holy shit go away

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Anonymous No. 16450690

>#drumpf loses the election somehow
>musk si arrested, spacex broken up and sold to boeing for $1
>starship is shelved, starliner on top of sls is the way to go
>another 30 years of space dark age is upon us
wake me up

Anonymous No. 16450691

>>16450677
It's great how despite all the concerns, IFT-5 did really well against all odds. Hopefully, they'll do much better in Flight 6.

Anonymous No. 16450692

What happened to VISE?

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>>16450688
>concedes the argument then whines
jew too huh

Anonymous No. 16450696

>>16450690
if that happens I'm moving to china and investing in all the meme spacex copy companies

Anonymous No. 16450697

>However, IVO and Trident were passed over in the Discovery 15 and 16 selection phase in favor of DAVINCI+ and VERITAS, both missions to Venus.
What the fuck is wrong with these faggots?

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Anonymous No. 16450698

Based Elon

Anonymous No. 16450699

>>16450694
what are you on about? the only argument is that you people are shitting up every thread and you're proving my point with every post you make

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Anonymous No. 16450700

>>16450690
>another 30 years of space dark age is upon us
For you, gwello

Anonymous No. 16450701

>>16450699
sorry bro but your leftist politics are anti-human and the political parties you support want to cancel all human space flight. yeah WOW guess space became political. kill yourself pronto to reduce your carbon emissions

Anonymous No. 16450704

>>16450690
boeing is shuttering its space business

Anonymous No. 16450706

>>16450636
>>16450667
>>16450673
>A few years ago, for example, another seal was found with about four inches of eel hanging out of its nostril. The team was worried about the potential danger to the seal: It was wheezing a bit, and if it dove deep or tried to swim, the nose eel might have created a passageway for water to enter the seal’s lungs. The research team decided it was worth capturing the seal—for no more than 60 seconds—to try to remove the nasal invader.

>In practice, the removal took no more than 45 seconds, even though that eel turned out to be almost two feet long. “We are pretty sure the complete animal was removed, as the skull was found, but some fins or spines may have come off the eel during the removal,” the researchers wrote on Facebook. “The seal did not struggle very much, and no blood came out when the eel was being removed.”

>This latest nose eel was also removed, with a “slow, steady pull.” The seal was unharmed; the eel, however, perished.

Anonymous No. 16450707

>>16450682
I adamantly refuse to accept the premise that "space is fake" posters are real anons, those are 100% shitposters and not a one of them believe in that trash. They can try to convince me that's what they really think, I'm just not going to believe their silly lies.

Anonymous No. 16450708

>>16450701
I don't support any parties. go away

Anonymous No. 16450709

>dutch leftist whining that this place isn't like reddit again
unironically why do they go to places full of people they hate? madness

Anonymous No. 16450710

>>16450693
I hope it makes a sprooyoyoying sound when it jumps.

Anonymous No. 16450712

>>16450708
centrists by definition support the party with the largest social and political control so no you're just a delusional leftist and really need to kill yourself ASAP since you're 100% NPCbrained

Anonymous No. 16450713

>>16450708
It's not about parties you stupid fucker.

Anonymous No. 16450714

>>16450712
>politics has to be like console wars

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Anonymous No. 16450715

>>16450710
It's in a vacuum bro, so no

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Anonymous No. 16450718

>>16450647
no he didn't that was another video, this one gets swept off his ice sheet, cornered, bubblemogged and then torn to pieces
https://youtu.be/fs8ZveNZQ8g?t=137

Anonymous No. 16450719

>>16450713
>the political parties you support

Anonymous No. 16450721

>>16450708
>pleading neutrality when one of the political parties is trying to shut down the world's only space program of note

Anonymous No. 16450723

>>16450714
>one party wants to stop all human spaceflight
>it's like xbox vs the playstation
yeah NPCbrained like I said and now I'm absolutely certain you aren't white

Anonymous No. 16450725

>>16450682
That means there's other half that supports it. Meanwhile 100% of demonrats want space to be canned, musk to be killed, etc for their communist ideology

Anonymous No. 16450727

>>16450649
>biowarfare lab
can you give me proof that it was a biowarfare lab?
i swear you schizo's just bring this shit up like it's common knowledge and everyone should know.
show me some fucking evidence retard.

Anonymous No. 16450728

>>16450712
good for them. i'm not a centrist so i don't give a shit. i support poltards not shitting up every thread, that's my full policy

Anonymous No. 16450729

>>16450718
he's fine

Anonymous No. 16450730

>>16450715
we should terraform luna so we can hear the hopper bounce noises

Anonymous No. 16450731

>>16450721
i don't plead neutrality. i'm anti-poltard, since they shit up every thread with their complaints and twitter ragebait screenshots

Anonymous No. 16450732

>>16450727
>can you give me proof that it was a biowarfare lab?
Journalists said it wasn't.
>that's not sufficient proof for you
You don't have journalists enough.

Anonymous No. 16450733

>>16450728
yeah leftist kike coming here to whine is what you are we already know

Anonymous No. 16450735

>>16450727
Get this anon a sandwich and something to drink, he's been in cryo for nearly 5 years!

Anonymous No. 16450736

>my politics are screaming about /pol/ 24/7 but uh I'm not a leftist I swear

Anonymous No. 16450737

>>16450708
>>16450731
>I don't support any parties
>i don't plead neutrality.

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Anonymous No. 16450738

>>16450729
I assure you that he wasn't

Anonymous No. 16450739

>>16450307
the starship lifting jig there is sexy engineering

Anonymous No. 16450740

>>16450736
who are you quoting

Anonymous No. 16450741

>>16450698
yeah i had just found and read this.
pretty cringe NTRshit, what a shame, could've been something great but the weird obsessive focus on NTR put me off.
why are japs like this?

Anonymous No. 16450742

>>16450737
Yes. sorry your mind is too limited to understand that

Anonymous No. 16450744

If you dont remove the communist, they will kill the space program. There is also a strong 50% chance the commie is a European trying to insert himself into American discourse.

Anonymous No. 16450745

I don't care if the democratic party breaks up spacex and makes it illegal for private companies to explore space. I'm not political. I'm just here to whine about some /pol/ posting I noticed. Actually I'm going to derail the thread by bitching about it but really it's your fault for not agreeing with my politics (which I don't have but uh coincidently allows for the complete eradication of the future of humans in space)

Anonymous No. 16450746

>>16450709
not me lol, i was busy looking up orca videos
how many times have you done this while i was gone? i haven't paid any rent and yet i live rent free inside your brain.

Anonymous No. 16450747

>>16450700
our population will call it progress until the last white man is hunted down and killed

Anonymous No. 16450748

>>16450458
This is kinda heartwarming

Anonymous No. 16450750

>>16450740
probably whoever felt the need to reply to that bait since they felt attacked. I bet it's a big fat BROWN KIKE hahahahahha

Anonymous No. 16450751

>>16450573
The company that fucked up the first test offered to fly it again, but the mission isn't until next year annoyingly.

Anonymous No. 16450753

>>16450729
nigga he tried to get back onto the icesheet and then got yanked into the water by 3 hungry orca's.
he's fucking dead.

Anonymous No. 16450755

>>16450745
>I don't care if the democratic party breaks up spacex and makes it illegal for private companies to explore spa
If you dont care about space industry, then fuck off to leddit. Clear as that.

Anonymous No. 16450756

>>16450746
>how many times have you done this while i was gone?
0 since you always respond in less than a half hour

Anonymous No. 16450758

>>16450732
>meme answer
i hate journalists perfectly fine.
should i get a journalist to make an article that states gravity is real then? are you gonna respond the same way to that?

Anonymous No. 16450759

>>16450744
Europeans' attitudes towards political matters are precisely why the ESA will never accomplish anything. Innovative and ambitious organizations like SpaceX can only exist i America (and only be copied by the chinese.) The only thing Europe is good at is wasting resources on corruption masquerading as muh social programs.

Anonymous No. 16450760

>>16450737
i could share literally every single political opinion with you perfectly and still hate you for being an obnoxious faggot who refuses to actually talk about spaceflight.

Anonymous No. 16450761

>>16450738
>>16450753
he'll walk it off, just a little shaken up

Anonymous No. 16450762

>the one dude who hates that innocuous meme about journalists is seething again
literal reddit infestation lol

Anonymous No. 16450763

>>16450750
>i'm being a nuisance and people are complaining about it. clearly they must be the enemy
you're no better than the kikes and niggers you complain about

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Anonymous No. 16450764

hey /sfg/ what was your favorite apollo mission?

Anonymous No. 16450765

>>16450750
>y-you got baited
lol, you're upset.

Anonymous No. 16450766

Soviet Space Image Catalog
http://mentallandscape.com/C_Catalog.htm

Anonymous No. 16450767

>>16450760
I talk about space flight every single day. The reason you're mad is because people in this thread are acknowledging the political reality of SpaceX's future hanging in the balance of a partisan election, with one of the parties out to destroy Elon Musk because he's a rich white man with non-union companies.

Anonymous No. 16450768

>>16450697
I was excited for Trident :(
Launch in 2026, Triton by 2038

Anonymous No. 16450769

>>16450756
i've been elsewhere for the past 2 days lol.
completely mindbroken, this nigga will see me everywhere now, he's gonna check his walls for me.

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Anonymous No. 16450770

>>16450764
It's hard to beat number 11

Anonymous No. 16450773

>>16450767
no, because i agree with that, but it's been repeated to fucking death.
do you need to give a fucking sermon every single day about this?
shut the fuck up, faggot.
you could be telling me the sky is blue every 2 hours and i'd tell you to keep your retarded mouth shut just the same.

Anonymous No. 16450774

>>16450765
>y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-you
yeah looks like you did
>>16450763
you want us all to die on earth. worse than anything desu

Anonymous No. 16450776

>>16450774
>S-STOP QUOTING ME IN SPIRIT IT'S NOT FUNNY
lol

Anonymous No. 16450777

>>16450764
I don't know, I need to reread the flight journals first.
https://www.nasa.gov/history/afj/index.html

Anonymous No. 16450778

>>16450767
And let's not forget that leftists used to like space a few years ago when they thought that space was too difficult and unprofitable for private companies to ever succeed at it, making it the sole domain of governments, and therefore the perfect place for their "gay space communism" aka the secular cult of star trek futurism.

SpaceX turned that theory on its head, rapidly eclipsing what any government-run space agency is capable of, making a huge mockery out of the ESA in particular, proving that only capitalism can take humanity to the stars. Leftists will never forgive Elon Musk for this. They want him dead.

>>16450773
>noooo you can't just talk about the future of space flight in a thread about space flight, I'm tired of hearing about that!!!
Crimea River

Anonymous No. 16450779

>>16450759
It's a bit unfair to compare ESA to private companies. ESA is just European NASA. Don't expect efficiency by a gigantic government agency. Or in this case it's not even run by one government but multiple countries on a continent

Anonymous No. 16450781

>>16450764
17

Anonymous No. 16450782

>>16450764
Apollo 1

Anonymous No. 16450783

>>16450769
sure and yet every time I mention I notice some gay ass dutch leftist style posting here you turn up ;)
>>16450776
>l-l-l-l-l-l-l-lol i'm serious dude I did the only thing I know how to do

Anonymous No. 16450784

>>16450778
you're not talking about the future of spaceflight, you're just directly whining about the election like a little bitch.

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Anonymous No. 16450785

>>16450770
holy fuck that looks like one of the little guys from amongus
did nasa base their space suit design off of the amongus guys?

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Anonymous No. 16450787

>>16450782
based fried chicken enjoyer

Anonymous No. 16450788

>>16450783
no, i watched you fruitlessly try to find me a few weeks ago, and you're doing it again here.
sometimes i break out of the cover of darkness to remind you that you're really bad at finding me.
>NOOOOO STOP MAKING FUN OF ME
kek

Anonymous No. 16450789

>>16450784
NOT SPACEFLIGHT. JANNIES BAN THIS POLTARD HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTION

Anonymous No. 16450790

>>16450787
hmmm, crispy

Anonymous No. 16450791

>>16450789
>instant seethe
my work is done.

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Anonymous No. 16450793

>>16450718

Anonymous No. 16450794

>>16450764
>>16450781
I also like 17 because it was the most impressive from a stats point of view. longest EVAs, most distance covered, most roggs returned

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Anonymous No. 16450795

>>16450764
13 is pretty harrowing, it could have been a tragedy quite easily.

Anonymous No. 16450797

>>16450794
uhmmm acktucally 16 drove further with the buggy

Anonymous No. 16450799

>>16450788
so you admit that a few weeks ago you saw me call out your posts correctly and you admit today that I successfully called you out since here you are whining about it. cool. typical high level dutch faggot thinking on display

Anonymous No. 16450800

>>16450779
>ESA is just European NASA.
No, they're much worse than that. NASA at least invests in the development of commercial space industry, via programs like COTS, CCDev, etc. A substantial portion of NASA may have to be dragged kicking and screaming through these processes, but it still gets done. All the ESA is good for is making Ariane-affiliated bureaucrats rich.

Anonymous No. 16450801

Elon Musk topics are more space flight than literally anything else

Anonymous No. 16450802

>>16450791
>>16450680
yeah instant seethe indeed

Anonymous No. 16450803

>>16450795
great movie though, thank you kevin bacon

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Anonymous No. 16450804

>>16450686
normiefags can't comprehend time shorter than a second

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Anonymous No. 16450805

>>16450799
>this desperate for validation
i'm gonna leave you to wallow in your sadness again, see you next week when i remind you again that you've accused 5-10 more random anons of being me like a schizo.
enjoy your self-induced mental illness.

Anonymous No. 16450807

>>16450795
true, they should make a movie about it

Anonymous No. 16450808

>>16450762
he can't help himself, always starts seething massively lmao

Anonymous No. 16450809

>>16450802
no, from you.
i know you're not very smart but try and keep up.
oh and control your breathing, you're hyperventilating.

Anonymous No. 16450810

>>16450805
>you've accused 5-10 more random anons
literally every single time I've thrown it out you reply immediately after crying about it. just accept that I can spot a leftist faggot from the netherlands. like MAYBE if you didn't start spamming me after I said it what you're saying now would be believable but you never ever do.

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Anonymous No. 16450811

>>16450764
Apollo 16 because it had the GOAT John Young

Anonymous No. 16450813

>>16450784
they are the same thing right now you retarded faggot

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Anonymous No. 16450814

>>16450764
ASTP

Anonymous No. 16450815

>>16450809
>>16450680
>>16450682
>>16450728
>>16450731
unironic display of intense projection currently. as expected from our "nonpolitical" seethe poster

Anonymous No. 16450817

>>16450810
no, because i've gone back and seen like 3 random accusations that literally nobody responded back to lol
you're losing it anon, take your lithium

Anonymous No. 16450818

>>16450815
you've quoted several different posters, but do keep trying

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Anonymous No. 16450819

>>16450815
kek

Anonymous No. 16450820

>>16450817
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/16424676#p16425211
got you this time ;)

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Anonymous No. 16450821

>>16450814
Based

Anonymous No. 16450822

>>16450764
Apollo-Soyuz

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Anonymous No. 16450825

>>16450814
Some day this new cold war will thaw and we will get to see Starship have an orbital rendezvous with... another Soyuz lul.

Anonymous No. 16450828

>>16450825
imagine a soyuz launching from mars, glorious

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Anonymous No. 16450830

>>16450820
>all the way back to IFT
lol
anyway, before i go, can i ask one final question?
why are you so obsessed with my nationality.
from my perspective, it seems like the only thing you're even capable of bringing up, but i'm not sure why that's supposed to feel threatening.
my guess is you're a flagbrained retard, who came to 4ch on one of the flag boards and obsesses over flags 24/7.
you claim not to be a /pol/nigger and yet any time /pol/ is brought up in a negative light you jump in to defend it.

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Anonymous No. 16450834

>>16450830
>literally cannot stop ranting about /pol/
we get it dude, you don't want to talk about space flight. you can stop now.

Anonymous No. 16450835

>>16450830
I've taken note of you ever since you derailed a thread by getting into a screaming match with another dutchanon while you acted like a typical leftist. then I noticed how you always seethed about /pol/ even when it barely brought up. given like the three times I've called you out you've instantly replied I think I'm doing pretty well.

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Anonymous No. 16450836

>>16450828
Nothing else can take the extreme cold there except baseduz. Americanski rocket must be launched from tropics or catch chill

Anonymous No. 16450837

why do people keep bringing up all these old government makework programs that had absolutely no vision and eventually were cancelled with nothing to show for it

Anonymous No. 16450838

>>16450834
i'm not the one constantly bringing up a /pol/thread anon, that was and still is you, 24/7
/pol/ is a husk of a board that died a long time ago, being inhabited by nothing but tourists, as it is now a gateway board for normalfags to invade through. and yet for some reason you seem genuinely suprised that everyone hates it.
one might question why that is.

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Anonymous No. 16450839

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ypmxFrSYo
>SpaceX is FAST... Starship Booster 13 Static Fire Complete | SpaceX Boca Chica

Anonymous No. 16450840

>>16450800
The EU is a bit of a meme as a whole imo. You only need to cross the border to your neighboring country and they'll have an entirely different work culture and stuff, and on top of that you're communicating with your second or third language (English). Let's imagine ESA manages to pull ten thousand top tier engineers from all over Europe, it seems like it would be a nightmare managing everyone. It just makes everything a bit more awkward. And nobody is patriotic for "Europe" either, in the same way someone at NASA might be like hell yeah let's make America achieve this thing. I don't care what's going on in France

Anonymous No. 16450841

>>16450830
its just a convenient identifier

Anonymous No. 16450842

>>16450836
>Soyuz can't launch to anything lower than 51 degrees inclination, effectively barring Russia from participating in China's space station
>collaboration with America only made possible by America's ability and willingness to launch to such a high inclination for the sole purpose of being friendly to Russians.
Kind of sad in a way, but perhaps for the best.

Anonymous No. 16450844

>>16450835
>a bunch of extremely emotionally written fanfiction about the time where i made fun of some /pol/niggers and you went out of your way to intentionally tell everyone there about /sfg/ like it was your life's mission.
>i think i'm doing pretty well.
you replied to a different anon this time as well bud, you have literally not managed to guess correctly once, you're desperately trying to convince yourself that me seeing your posts and then making fun of you is a confirmation that you got the right guy, you didn't.

Anonymous No. 16450845

>>16450797
My stats show 27km for 16 an 35km for 17

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Anonymous No. 16450846

>>16450838
>literally still ranting about /pol/

Anonymous No. 16450847

>>16450841
but you haven't identified him at all, he's literally pointing this out to you right now.
you're being baited anon, you need to calm down.

Anonymous No. 16450850

>>16450847
you are schizophrenic

Anonymous No. 16450852

>>16450844
listen every time I post it you have a huge seethe with more than a half dozen posts. I don't believe it's not working and I'm going to keep doing it. Have fun being a dutch faggot leftist or w/e but I don't really care haha

Anonymous No. 16450853

>>16450847
i think he's gonna call you dutchanon now lol.
this could be a fun game, i'm gonna try and use some of the indicators he looks for to pretend to be this "dutchanon"

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>>16450839

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Anonymous No. 16450855

>>16450738
I will avenge him

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Anonymous No. 16450857

>>16450854
pretty cool montage of the static fire from like 6 different cameras in the middle of the video

Anonymous No. 16450858

>>16450855
>i-i will avenge him
you wont do shit

Anonymous No. 16450859

>>16450855
I wonder if you could thaw out a frozen whale from the surface of the moon and still eat the meat without issue? JAXA should test this.

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Anonymous No. 16450860

>>16450785
common misconception but the apollo space suits and amogus are both based on ancient mesoamerican tribal dress

Anonymous No. 16450861

>>16450512
This old news man

Anonymous No. 16450862

>>16450859
a lot of the volatiles would quickly sublimate away anon. hope you like freeze-dried whale.

Anonymous No. 16450864

>>16450860
WE WUZ ASSTRONAUTZ N' SHIET

Anonymous No. 16450865

>>16450859
SpaceX should launch a blue whale carcass on Starship as the maiden launch

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Anonymous No. 16450867

>>16450865

Anonymous No. 16450868

>>16450860
>see that guy with an animal head on his head?
>its a space helmet
>see that ancient art that looks like a human?
>its an alien

Anonymous No. 16450870

>>16450738
Well I'm sure he tasted fine.

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Anonymous No. 16450871

>>16450858
>you won't do sh-ACK

Anonymous No. 16450872

>>16450644
Is this the less autistic eager space?

Anonymous No. 16450873

>>16450867
just freeze-dry it

Anonymous No. 16450874

>>16450872
no, he basically posts strictly about Artemis/SLS/Orion

Anonymous No. 16450875

>>16450871
Look at that massive blue tongue.
Imagine getting your ass tongued by that big boy.
In space, no less.

Anonymous No. 16450877

>>16450860
>top left
proof mayans had baseball
>top right
proof mayans had furries
>bottom left
proof mayans had BDSM
>bottom middle
proof mayans had cowboy hats
>bottom right
proof mayans had the Michelin Man.

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Anonymous No. 16450878

>>16450718
These fuckers are way too smart

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Anonymous No. 16450886

>>16450364
isnt JD hand picked by the tech bros

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>>16450884

Anonymous No. 16450891

>>16450889
golem get ye gone

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Anonymous No. 16450892

>>16450878
we should be very thankful they don't have limbs built for dexterity.
humanity would be doomed.

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Anonymous No. 16450893

>>16450764
15 because cars are cool

Anonymous No. 16450897

>>16450893
>muh stamps

Anonymous No. 16450898

>>16450878
I'm not impressed, they've never managed to invent fire.

Anonymous No. 16450899

>>16450898
to be fair it's pretty hard to start a fire under the sea

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Anonymous No. 16450900

>>16450889

Anonymous No. 16450903

>>16450898
literally the only reason why they and octopuses haven't yet is because they live in water and don't have dexterous limbs.
it's the same with wolves.
wolves ended up getting gimped on their road to minmaxing intelligence because they didn't happen to have the limbs perfect for tool use that we did.
the tool use intelligence reinforcement selection process never happened with anyone but humans and to some degree apes.
if you genetically grafted hands onto a dog and allowed them to do their thing for a few million years they would probably discover fire.

Anonymous No. 16450904

>>16450884
huh I thought the block 2 were stretched more than that

Anonymous No. 16450905

>>16450903
wolves and dogs still lucked out anyways by having the social intelligence to hunt and live alongside humans who can use tools and light fires for them

Anonymous No. 16450921

>>16450905
yep they ended up in lucky spot nr 2 basically.
cats are arbiters of their own fate however and chose willingly rather than being slowly bred into it. which is why they are more based than dogs.

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Anonymous No. 16450929

>>16450595
>>16450597
I'm doing my part!

Anonymous No. 16450930

>>16450924
das ist sehr reine kinomatografie.

Anonymous No. 16450934

>>16450889
menacing

Anonymous No. 16450938

>>16450929
journalists: "let's leave out key information and add quotes from randoms that help push an agenda"
lay people: wowwowow elon musk is pure EVIL
people in the community: foust you bitch

Anonymous No. 16450943

>>16450686
>a SpaceX rocket control cycle is the same duration as a Minecraft tick

Anonymous No. 16450948

>>16450943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk5J-wOYOFM

Anonymous No. 16450951

>>16450943
there's only so many lengths of time

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Anonymous No. 16450954

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1850196748880211983
>Starship 33 at Massey's test site this morning for cryo testing.
>10/26/24

Anonymous No. 16450955

>>16450943
The rockets are controlled by redstone machines running in a headless java edition server process.

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Anonymous No. 16450956

but guys, twitter told me it was just king chud elon whining about the FAA and the rest of the company was just ignoring his nonsense and are actually buddies with the FAA?

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Anonymous No. 16450958

https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1850050685510852665
>Ship 33 on its way to Massey's for cryo testing. Stay tuned! #Starbase #Starship

Anonymous No. 16450959

>>16450958
>tiles already falling off

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Anonymous No. 16450960

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1850007614781882432
>Starship 33 being prepped for rollout tonight to Massey's test site for cryogenic testing.
>10/25/24

I know this was in the previous thread but the minitiles are cool

Anonymous No. 16450962

>>16450956
What is the source for this low quality post?

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Anonymous No. 16450964

>>16450959
don't need 'em

Anonymous No. 16450965

>>16450962
transcript >>16450677

Anonymous No. 16450967

>>16450962
elon himself retard

Anonymous No. 16450968

>>16450962
the diablo gameplay elon posted yesterday(?)

Anonymous No. 16450971

>>16450929
Community Notes alone make the twitter buyout worth it

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Anonymous No. 16450972

>>16450473
>>16450504
>>16450520
V2 gives them heatshield data, control software data, re-entry heating data on ship and booster, etc. Hardware rich development means build everything all the time always. If SpaceX hadn't tested Raptor 1 because they were waiting for Raptor 2 which was obsoleted by Raptor 3, the "real" engine they would still be trying to design it to get it work first time. This is the SLS development cycle, autistically engineer and test and simulate everything so it works first try, but not really because you inevitably missed something, so you need to go back and do hundreds of thousands of hours of more autistic engineering because each test article costs eight billion. This is the engineering project management equivalent of the invention of Calculus, it is just better than what people were doing before. Starship / Superheavy is multiple orders of magnitudes better than its competitors, and this style of development cycle is the main reason why. This is what the secret sauce is, and people still don't get it.
Always be testing.

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Anonymous No. 16450983

don't screenshot my posts, stalker

Anonymous No. 16450992

>>16450983
>dont worry guys hes talking to me

Anonymous No. 16450993

>>16450975
Starlink reddit is consistently the only one that hasnt been taken over by leftists commies. Every other board seems to have been taken over by leftists. Even the spacex boards and the tesla boards.

Anonymous No. 16450994

>>16450993
teslamotors is fine, and teslalounge, and spacexlounge, and even r/space to some extent, are all fine.

t. terminally online Redditor

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16450996

>>16450686
A divine wind saved it. Thank you again Shinzo.

Anonymous No. 16450997

https://x.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1850229317378412690 crew 8 medical thing is over, all fine

Anonymous No. 16450998

>>16450997
it was obviously a nothingberger from the start.

Anonymous No. 16450999

>>16450996
the sniper missed

Anonymous No. 16451011

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/26/elon-musk-immigration-status/
babe wake up your daily musk libel

Anonymous No. 16451014

>>16451011
not spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16451015

>>16450903
And this is why intelligent aliens would basically look like humans. You can't do shit if you don't live on land and have hands

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Anonymous No. 16451021

>>16451011
They've been worked up into a frenzy
https://archive.is/0w8oW
Also lol
https://archive.is/5J2et

Anonymous No. 16451022

>>16450997
>Jeanette Epps was observed overnight at Ascension Sacred Heart Pensacola following an incident that occurred during an in-flight intercourse with her crewmates. Out of respect for her privacy and in compliance with HIPAA regulations we cannot publicly disclose any information detailing her medical condition.

Rumors are flying that she bumped her head. Do people not have anything better to do? That's her own business.

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Anonymous No. 16451024

Space tourism will succeed because you are selling the greatest drug/toy known to man

Anonymous No. 16451027

>>16451011
so they weren't in the country illegally, it was under a student visa

Anonymous No. 16451031

>>16450727
Kill yourself immediately.

Anonymous No. 16451032

>>16451027
On the other hand if they were saying that he was there illegally and they don't like Musk, are they saying illegal immigrants are good or bad

Anonymous No. 16451034

>>16451027
also, I would say there is a pretty big difference between canadians coming to the US after they have already studied here, have actual student visas and then work compared to what is happening on the southern border of the US now

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Anonymous No. 16451036

>Polaris Dawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaJmUUtr2SI

Anonymous No. 16451042

>>16451036
who needs bulky space suits anyway? track suits and motorcycle helmets get the job done fine.

Anonymous No. 16451043

>>16450309
>86 days

Anonymous No. 16451049

>>16451036
kino

Anonymous No. 16451052

>>16451043
can the biden admin do something to fuck with him between election and the inauguration?

Anonymous No. 16451058

>>16451011
>>16451021
Such a blatant hate on Musk/Tesla. Why does the company even keep such a raging hater like this?

Anonymous No. 16451060

just vooted, elon better have made the right choice this way.

Anonymous No. 16451063

>>16451058
Bezos owns the washington post bro....

Anonymous No. 16451066

>>16450378
>Suborbital Flights
Suborbital flights flown by Blue Origin provide suborbital research access for the MIT community.

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous No. 16451067

>>16451052
I mean yeah, it's the president. Will they? I'd bet my life savings, no.

Anonymous No. 16451068

>>16451066
>buy pack of estes motors from local hobby shop
>sell suborbital flights to MIT
find a flaw with my business plan

Anonymous No. 16451070

>>16450623
they just ignore Bezos' and Gates' decade long relationship with Jinping and Putin

Anonymous No. 16451071

>>16451068
what's stopping MIT from cutting out the middleman (you) and buying their own estes motors? at least BO's rocket is a wee bit harder to replicate

Anonymous No. 16451077

>>16451071
I'll pay a lobbyist to take the MIT president out to dinner at an expensive restaurant.

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Anonymous No. 16451081

>>16451080
How can plumelets even compete?

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Anonymous No. 16451082

Ship catch attempt in IFT-7 or 8

Anonymous No. 16451083

>>16450322
Elon may have singlehandedly swung PA into Trump's favor by being as outspoken as he is, and publically supporting his PAC. He genuinely believes that if he does not do this, SpaceX will not be allowed to go to Mars
>>16450380
>>16450383
>>16451066
That didnt really happen, The Orbit is a satire account

Anonymous No. 16451084

>>16451080
This is a fantastic demonstration of Ve = Isp * g0.

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Anonymous No. 16451085

Guess who's back

Anonymous No. 16451088

>>16451085
isn't this basically what the shuttle reuse/refurbishment looked like

Anonymous No. 16451089

>>16451085
hammer that thing back into shape and they could definitely use it again

Anonymous No. 16451090

>>16451080
source?

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Anonymous No. 16451091

>>16450996

Anonymous No. 16451093

>>16450867
Just send two

Anonymous No. 16451096

>>16451080
hard to believe starship is so old that most cameras were still in black and white at the time

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Anonymous No. 16451101

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850251345145757835

Anonymous No. 16451107

>>16450732
>>16450735
>>16451031
>all this whining
>no proof
so it was bullshit and you're mad someone questioned your schizo theory, got it.

Anonymous No. 16451108

>>16451015
which means there's a large chance they can be sexy and we can have sex with them

Anonymous No. 16451111

>>16451101
>phones will work everywhere
wtf I hate spacex now

Anonymous No. 16451112

>>16451101
+60N gang. Might as well live on Mars.

Anonymous No. 16451113

from a plane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFitYDdqAik

Anonymous No. 16451124

>>16451096
>cameras
That's an oil painting dude. They hadn't invented color paint yet, let alone cameras.

Anonymous No. 16451130

>>16451113
You could get very close to starbase with an airboat.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16451138

>>16450290
As much as I want SpaceX to succeed Trump winning absolutely means Ukraine loses its much needed funding. I don't mind if SpaceX takes an extra year or two to get to the moon that's still beating China by a large marge.
And as we just saw for flight 5 the democrats actually seem willing to work with Musk if enough pressure is applied so it might not even be different under kamala anyway.

Anonymous No. 16451139

>>16451138
Why do you keep reposting this copypasta?

Anonymous No. 16451140

>>16451138
>I don't mind if SpaceX takes an extra year or two to get to the moon that's still beating China by a large marge.
Fuck off back to trannit

Anonymous No. 16451146

>>16451138
>Ukraine loses its much needed funding
Trump would end the war day 1, no need for funding or loss of life.

Anonymous No. 16451148

>>16451139
Even worse why is it still getting replies?

Anonymous No. 16451154

>>16451113
When you see it from this angle, that base is in such a weird place

Anonymous No. 16451173

>>16451080
Erection inducing image

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Anonymous No. 16451176

https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1850232002387071100

Anonymous No. 16451180

>>16451176
/sfg/ common knowledge

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Anonymous No. 16451188

>>16451180
You'd think so but dummies keep posting magnetic gizmos to put at Mars L1

Anonymous No. 16451192

>>16451180
Everyone on Earth thinks Mars colonization step 1 is an artificial magnetic field

Anonymous No. 16451194

>>16451188
>>16451192
I thought the main problem not the atmosphere getting stripped away, but the solar radiation.

Anonymous No. 16451200

>>16451192
Everyone outside of /sfg/

Anonymous No. 16451204

>>16451200
I don't identify as an Earther

Anonymous No. 16451211

>>16451200
as we all know, /sfg/ is a place of great consensus

Anonymous No. 16451214

guys my mommy is not home yet. who will look after meif she is gone missing?

Anonymous No. 16451215

starlink f9 YAAAWWWNNNN

Anonymous No. 16451221

>>16451214
we'll look after you until she comes home

Anonymous No. 16451229

>>16451215
i am so sleepy....

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Anonymous No. 16451234

>>16451214
Now then, now then, why don't you come with me?

Anonymous No. 16451235

>>16451176
>>16451188
>>16451192
The magnetic field protects against losing atmosphere on a less massive planet like Mars which gets blowtorched without one and allows lighter gasses to escape Mars' gravity. Mars' current atmosphere has a lot more heavy isotopes of carbon and argon.
This is why Venus has no hydrogen (outside sulfuric acid) despite being earth-sized, the hydrogen got heated up, then got energy from the solar wind and sailed off into space.
Any terraforming naturally would be very expensive and you don't want your investment slowly blowing away and having to continuously top it off

Anonymous No. 16451237

>>16451188
can't have a working compass without

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Anonymous No. 16451239

>>16451235
that's why you would paraterraform only over where you needed it

Anonymous No. 16451240

>>16451237
GPS makes this largely irrelevant

Anonymous No. 16451241

>>16451240
but gps is soulless

Anonymous No. 16451244

>>16451240
>you VILL use the electronic jew!

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Anonymous No. 16451245

>sfg

Anonymous No. 16451246

>>16451235
This, and additionally the resources and energy needed are tiny in comparison to global terraforming. The planet will gradually heal itself even if we do nothing.

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Anonymous No. 16451249

>>16451237
If you can't navigate with the Martian moons and an ephemerides you don't deserve to make it

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Anonymous No. 16451261

>>16451258
sovl

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Anonymous No. 16451263

https://vocaroo.com/1ac8vFa4iHtQ

Earthers must be purged

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Anonymous No. 16451264

Starlink is literally destroying our night skies and you muppets will still support it because musk owns it

Anonymous No. 16451266

>>16451264
And? Earth is on its way to becoming a hive world within the next century. You won't be able to see shit in the sky anyway

Anonymous No. 16451268

>>16451138
posted it again award.

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Anonymous No. 16451269

>>16451264
"Starlink will destroy our night sky"
"SpaceX will pollute ozone"

This is the spacex equivalent of "Trump nazi"

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Anonymous No. 16451274

Musk is blowing holes in the ionosphere and you're voting for his cheeto rapist pal? Ugh.

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Anonymous No. 16451275

>>16451269
this was from 2006

Anonymous No. 16451277

>>16451275
oh yeah? well, uh, you're dutch!!!

Anonymous No. 16451285

City shitters shouldn't be allowed to talk about the night sky. LEDs have obliterated it.

Anonymous No. 16451289

>>16451275
Iridium is such a cool name for a sat constellation. Viasat is perfect for an uncreative but competent bureacracy which never wen tthrough a 'startup' culture.

I can predict if a company will succeed by its name. All companies which fail have retarded scam names.
SpaceX is such a good name that I thought it was from a comic book or something when I first heared it in 2008

Anonymous No. 16451294

>>16451258
Is anything sexier than a NASA worm on white aerospace hardware? It is eye candy; such a good simple but affective design

Anonymous No. 16451295

>>16451285
Because they went with cheaper, wider, and brighter instead of more expensive, dimmer, and more focused fixtures with less scatter.

Anonymous No. 16451299

>>16451264
Musk will also build up a solar power microwave transfer constellation

Anonymous No. 16451303

>>16450589
At first, I thought this post made sense, but on second thought, I think it's just a plant trying to make me accept and propagate a bullshit theory to discredit the REAL conspiracies.
Not today, CIA!

Anonymous No. 16451307

>>16451289
the only naming department where they fail is starship
starship is a retarded name and i'd honestly have been happier if they'd kept it at BFR.

Anonymous No. 16451309

>>16451303
well then i'm just gonna have to kill you instead.
face the wall champ.

Anonymous No. 16451311

>>16451307
I've always thought "Phoenix" would be a nice name for it. Maybe not imposing enough, but it fits into the mythological creatures + birds of prey theming for Falcon, Merlin, Raptor, Dragon, etc, and also with a spacecraft that will pass through the flames of reentry and then be reused

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Anonymous No. 16451312

>>16451294
>The modernisation of NASA in the 70s was part of the US Federal Design Improvement Program – an initiative instigated by the NEA (National Endowment for the Arts) at the behest of President Richard Nixon. Under this scheme, more than 45 federal agencies, including The Department of Agriculture and The National Zoo, had their graphics critiqued and redesigned: New York design studio Danne & Blackburn was tasked with the job of modernising NASA’s logo.
Based Nixon gave us the worm
>For all its modern appeal and design rigour, the logotype was retired from official use in 1992. According to NASA’s new administrator at that time, Dan Goldin, the worm was disliked by the agency’s employees and complaints had been received about the logo’s “incompetence and lack of projection”. However, some argue that Goldin was motivated to make the change by more than just design aesthetics. According to Bert Ulrich of NASA’s Public Services Division, older members of staff at NASA remembered the old meatball insignia with fondness as it represented NASA in the Apollo days, before the 1986 Space Shuttle tragedy. The Newport News Daily Press suggested in an article published on May 23, 1992 that Paul Holloway, then director of NASA’s Langley Research Center, may have dealt the death blow to the worm in a conversation with Goldin. “You know how to lift the morale of NASA?” Holloway reportedly asked Goldin. “You can do it by changing the worm.”
Cringe boomers and a jew administrator took it away
https://www.creativereview.co.uk/nasa-worm-logo

Anonymous No. 16451317

>>16451307
Falcon is sort of gay too, especially since the name came from Starwars.
Starship will likely be called longship by people looking back in the future, which is a good name. our forays to Mars now will be like the early viking settlements in north america.

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Anonymous No. 16451329

>>16451317
>our forays to Mars now will be like the early viking settlements in north america.
This is a terrible precedent considering the Nords either died or went back

Anonymous No. 16451335

>>16451329
>considering the Nords either died or went back
what do you think will happen to a settlement on Mars eventually?
We must push and push and push, but it will not be clean or linear. For our very first attempt to work would be miraculous, and I wouldn't count on it. Making a self sustaining civilization on Mars is insanely difficult. It will require the political, social and economic power to remain in place for a hundred years without interruption.

Centuries from now when men return with superior machines, they will look on what we did and marvel.

Anonymous No. 16451341

falcon 9 launch came and went with only a single mention, half an hour before it happened complaining that it was going to be borning

Anonymous No. 16451345

>>16451341
What does borning mean

Anonymous No. 16451346

>>16451341
no Clear, no mention

Anonymous No. 16451347

>>16451345
it means I'm not very good at typing

Anonymous No. 16451350

>>16451341
>WAAAAAAAAH YOU CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT WHAT I SAY YOU SHOULD WAAAAAHHHHH
shut up

Anonymous No. 16451358

>>16451341
Good good, it's becoming mundane, boring even. The sooner the Starlink constellation initial buildout is complete the sooner the Mars and deep space constellation buildout can begin.

Anonymous No. 16451361

>>16451341
Let's talk about the impact of the election on future human spaceflight instead

Anonymous No. 16451366

>>16451361
Based subverter of topics

Anonymous No. 16451368

>>16450512
>not everything is connected
Everything is connected, anon.

Anonymous No. 16451370

>>16451341
we aren't railfans
>dude this is the 19th flight for this booster!!!
>no way, this booster launched the first oneweb sat!!
>this is the very same booster that launched cargo to the ISS!!
>I watched the whole video even though it was the same as the other hundred!!

Anonymous No. 16451371

>>16451345
When girl get pragnant

Anonymous No. 16451379

>>16451371
Can i sex you mom?

Anonymous No. 16451381

>>16451379
I have no mom ;_;

Anonymous No. 16451384

Where does Bill Nelson go after this? Back into the political arena? A job at SpaceX perhaps? Retirement doesn’t seem to be on his radar despite his age

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>>16451384
Hes just gonna get btfo and put in a nursing home

Anonymous No. 16451392

>>16451384
Anon he is visibly decaying like Biden. Let them die.

Anonymous No. 16451395

>>16451311
phoenix would've been nice.

Anonymous No. 16451397

>>16451395
Gaybo

Anonymous No. 16451402

>>16451264
I do not like Jupiter.

Anonymous No. 16451403

>>16451402
Does it mock you? With its smug aura?

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>>16451403
NTA but Jupiter is so fucking smug

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Anonymous No. 16451406

Just voted for the total colonization and subjugation of Mars and the rest of the Solar System.

Anonymous No. 16451408

>>16451406
and fascism and racism!

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Anonymous No. 16451410

>Here is the version of the previous infographic, but with internal tanks visible! As you can see, the payload bay space is a bit tighter now

deeply concerning

https://x.com/BingoBoca/status/1850322954459996266

Anonymous No. 16451411

>>16451410
Block 2 payload volume is actually such a cope

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>>16451408
Those are just bonuses anon. Starfleet-1 departs during the 2028 launch window to Mars, bearing an entire colony's worth of building materials and supplies.
Then it's ever-larger fleets each launch window, until the work is done.

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Anonymous No. 16451413

>>16451406
>>16451408

Anonymous No. 16451414

>>16451412
>Starfleet-1
Oh god they're really going to use this nomenclature aren't they.

Anonymous No. 16451415

>>16451370
>>16451370
>I watched the whole video even though it was the same as the other hundred!!
I still do this, but agree we aren't foamers

Anonymous No. 16451416

>>16451410
Absolutely pathetic. They are going to have to stretch the fuck out of it.

Anonymous No. 16451417

>>16451414
What would you name it?

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Anonymous No. 16451418

>>16451414
You could always call it the First Martian Expeditionary Armada instead if you like, but Starfleet is shorter. Each colony wave can be Starfleet-2, Starfleet-3, etc.

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>>16451417
The Great Armarsda

Anonymous No. 16451420

>>16451417
I would start with zero, for one thing, especially since the first one has to be uncrewed.

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Anonymous No. 16451424

>>16451397
>flaming bird of resurrection is gay
fuck you

Anonymous No. 16451426

>>16451418
>>16451417
the mayflower fleet

Anonymous No. 16451427

>>16451418
realistically how close would they actually be? A km? If one of those blows, the entire window's cargo is toast

Anonymous No. 16451428

>>16451419
I want to build massive hive cities inside all mars' volcanoes and bury a massive atmospheric processor in the middle of each of them

Anonymous No. 16451429

>>16451424
It is kinda troon-coded. Elon won't go for that.

Anonymous No. 16451431

>>16451423
Why does he look like he was made by Gerry Anderson?

Anonymous No. 16451433

>>16451416
how long can it be stretched before the tower cannot lift it high enough to clear the booster?

Anonymous No. 16451434

>>16451427
Probably nowhere near close enough to be a problem, but it does make me wonder how many loiter orbits are going to be taken up by parked Starships awaiting their next window.

Anonymous No. 16451436

>>16451429
>troon-coded
the phoenix is a mythological figure you twat, you'd have to be fucking retarded to think it's trooncoded, kill yourself.

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Anonymous No. 16451437

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1850316050211950759

Anonymous No. 16451444

>>16451436
If it's mythological then it has no real-world characteristics, and changes with the era. Right now it's clearly a tranny bird.

Anonymous No. 16451445

>>16451437
kek, melon getting snubbed by Trump even before the election

Anonymous No. 16451447

>>16451437
Would you take a BO spacecraft to the moon if it meant you got scuttled?
I mean, you gotta do whatever it takes to get to the moon, right?

Anonymous No. 16451448

>>16451437
how many refuling flights for blue moon to make it to the moon?

Anonymous No. 16451449

>>16451418
Starmada is better, yes I came up with this just now.

Anonymous No. 16451450

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1850327454348628216
New Isaacman post

Anonymous No. 16451451

>>16451448
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>>16451450
In the replies, there is picrel. Isaacman is a Vast knower, and Haot again presents the sanity of Vast. They arent planning big things immediatly, it happens step by step, piece by piece.

Also FYI they have updated their website, looks like plans beyond LEO have been made. Will do a summary of this soon.

Anonymous No. 16451456

>>16451450
I thought his name was Jared? Now everyone is calling him Rook

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>>16451455
which one of these accounts is you?

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>>16451456
His tag is Rook, and many just call him that. It seems interchangeable for him. Also, look at this.
>>16451458
Kek cant tell ya

Anonymous No. 16451460

>>16451449
Nobody let Elon hear this because he'd probably laugh once then seriously go with it.

Anonymous No. 16451462

>>16451450
could I get a TLDR I have the attention span of an ipad baby on crack

Anonymous No. 16451465

>>16451462
no, you're clearly aware of this problem, don't ask me to enable it.

Anonymous No. 16451467

>>16451462
Sure
>Nearing end of post-flight Dawn obligations
>Took 14k people to make mission possible.
>SpaceX has a sense of individual ownership and a drive to improve rapidly that could be felt.
>Conducted many tests with team like O2 flammability and ESD to ensure safety
>Got to talk with Starbase team on IFT-5 preflight
>Talked with Starbase postflight and saw B12.
>Energy there is confident and feel the grand vision isnt far off
>Visited Starlink factories, saw a bunch of that shit
TLDR hes showing off the level of access he got to the company and its employees by doing this mission, and they are almost done with everything they need to do.

Anonymous No. 16451471

>In early 1943, two days after the death of Nikola Tesla, the Federal Bureau of Investigation ordered the Office of Alien Property Custodian to seize Tesla's belongings.[9] Trump was called in to analyze the Tesla artifacts, which were being held in government custody.

Donald Trump mentioned his uncle John Trump in the Rogan interview.
This uncle was a professor at MIT, the same institution that contracts with Bezos to do "sub-orbital" "experiments".
Coincidentally, he was also one of the people asked to recover sensitive document's from Nikola Tesla's hotel room after his passing.

>Tesloa
Elon Musk

Anonymous No. 16451472

>>16451459
W8 theyre planning a lunar artificial gravity demo on this bitch. This is Haven-1 not Haven-2 as well, this is soonish. Also
>2 weeks
kek

Anonymous No. 16451473

have you guys heard of the Mu Arae system?
I wish I could go on a grand tour of it...

Anonymous No. 16451474

>>16451471
What is Tesloa?

Anonymous No. 16451476

>>16451473
I feel like this is some covert way of redirecting me to porn like the hawaiian Krystalnigger does so I'm not going to search this.

Anonymous No. 16451481

>>16451455
Imagine my shock when you can tether two starships together faster than they can get a stepping stone in orbit

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>>16451476
meds
you can just search "Mu Arae" on YouTube to see that im talking about a real star system

Anonymous No. 16451483

>>16451481
But you cant do this. And SpaceX wouldnt even want to do it anyways.

Anonymous No. 16451486

>>16451481
if they were gonna do this it would be in the renders.

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>>16451476
you would be right
god why the fuck is there porn of that

Anonymous No. 16451488

>>16451482
Muarae would be a good sci-fi name for a planet

Anonymous No. 16451489

>>16451482
KEK ITS KYPLANET BAIT

Anonymous No. 16451491

>>16451481
You'd never get rid of the oscillations.

Anonymous No. 16451493

A Grand Tour of Mu Arae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kApXC3U75Gk&t=7s

Anonymous No. 16451496

>>16451493
Gas Giants more like Ass Giants
Waste of matter

Anonymous No. 16451497

>>16451379
ok :3

Anonymous No. 16451498

>>16451497
kys

Anonymous No. 16451499

>>16451496
There are probably some hydrogen mining platforms left by ayys for us to use

Anonymous No. 16451501

>>16451497
[math]\unicode{x1f62}[/math]

Anonymous No. 16451504

A Grand Tour of Mu Arae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kApXC3U75Gk

Anonymous No. 16451506

>>16450956

I can't read the valley talk. can someone translate it properly?

Anonymous No. 16451509

Everybody watch the kyplanet video, then discuss!

Anonymous No. 16451511

>>16451504
>>16451509
not space flight related, this is astronomy stuff

Anonymous No. 16451512

>>16451511
If only he had made a video on sensationalism and space colonization...

Anonymous No. 16451513

>>16451264
Jupiter is a big guy

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>>16451513
4 moo

Anonymous No. 16451520

>>16451489
you misspelled "kysplanet"

Anonymous No. 16451521

>sfg is now a coomer discord thread
ift-5 really did a number on this place didn't it?

Anonymous No. 16451523

Sensationalism and Space Colonization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGWRURx8CGs&t

Anonymous No. 16451525

>>16450309
>they're trying for flight 6 on 11/11
Going to be the sweetest victory lap or the saddest, most low energy thing.

Anonymous No. 16451527

>>16451525
could be the last flight ever kek

Anonymous No. 16451529

>>16451527
Why?

Anonymous No. 16451530

>>16451527
If that happened half of /sfg/ would legitimately turn to terrorism.

Anonymous No. 16451532

>>16451525
no way
looks like they are gonna spend more time working on B13 since B12 almost aborted the catch erroneously not to mention that they also need to reinforce the chines since critical equipment for the landing burn was almost taken out

Anonymous No. 16451533

>>16451530
who says we haven't already?

Anonymous No. 16451535

>>16451521
how new are you?

Anonymous No. 16451536

>>16451530
>>16451533
you wont do shit basement dweller chuds

Anonymous No. 16451537

>>16451498
teehee!

Anonymous No. 16451538

>>16451536
this anon is a federal agent. do NOT listen to what he posts

Anonymous No. 16451542

>>16451530
>>16451533
>>16451536
Post nose

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>>16451535
erm im not a newfag look i have this funni meme that only REAL /sfg/ regulars would find amusing or something

Anonymous No. 16451544

>>16451525
good, I have that day off from work

Anonymous No. 16451545

>>16451082
is that supposed to be where the catch arm will go?

Anonymous No. 16451547

>>16451542
gb2>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16451548

>he brought up /pol/ again

Anonymous No. 16451551

>>16451082
not a chance in hell the FAA lets them reenter a starship overland by flight 8

Anonymous No. 16451552

>>16451082
cope
did you see how the heatshield looked like lava on flight 5?
no way they're gonna be allowed to bring that back over land

Anonymous No. 16451553

>>16451082
whats that gay latch? is that where i put my cock in your dad?

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>>16451542

Anonymous No. 16451556

>>16450576
>2cm/s surface gravity
Surprisingly useful. Enough to be able to build things with gravity in mind.
>in 3.5 minutes you would fall 440 meters but hit the ground as though you'd jumped down only 1 meter on Earth

Anonymous No. 16451557

>>16451370
rockets are cooler than trains

Anonymous No. 16451558

>>16451555
this dickhead.

Anonymous No. 16451559

>>16451555
I worry it might be too pointy

Anonymous No. 16451560

kek, that nigger was disappointed when Elon rejected taking a picture with him

Anonymous No. 16451561

>>16451560
fucking black nigger only concerned with vanity. fucking black nigger.

Anonymous No. 16451562

>>16451506
Prior to this flight they have been FAA-driven in terms of time. Meaning, that they've been sitting around waiting on the FAA. This time they weren't. And conceivably won't be for the next flight either, which, according to the speaker presents a potential problem where they haven't had adequate time to thoroughly study the data or the vehicle between flights.

Anonymous No. 16451563

>i hate black pipo nword nword nword
>heh now i fit in with the chuds

Anonymous No. 16451564

>>16451560
What are you talking about?

Anonymous No. 16451565

>>16451562
well it can't go worse that flight 5?

Anonymous No. 16451566

>>16451564
Elon is currently hosting another town hall.

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Anonymous No. 16451567

cones

Anonymous No. 16451568

can this guy greentexting just shut the fuck up

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Anonymous No. 16451571

>>16451448
>>16451451
Please consult the graph

Anonymous No. 16451572

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16451573

>>16451560
Weird how elon will go from one city to another and its either a place with a bunch of normal people who understand the point of a town hall or dumbfuckistan that think its an elon fan convention

Anonymous No. 16451574

so elon just plays video games while being slobbered on by SpaceX engineers?

Is this really the secret to a successful new space company? Does Bezos have it all wrong? not enough Diablo?

Anonymous No. 16451576

>>16451571
How many blue origin rockets are capable of reaching orbit right now?

Anonymous No. 16451577

>>16451574
what if instead we just had a sane owner, that pays attention to his companies and doesnt shit all over the efforts with his dogwater diablo gameplay?

Anonymous No. 16451579

>>16451571
>10+ starship/superheavy launches
its actually 17+, kek.

Anonymous No. 16451580

>>16451574
what do you think chris kemp plays while his engineers brief him on test failures?

Anonymous No. 16451581

>>16451576
None of them, and that's the best part, because no rockets, no risk!

Anonymous No. 16451582

>>16451082
Are we looking at the black plate or the hole?
Because the hole looks like a plumbing thing

Anonymous No. 16451583

>>16451545
People are speculating that the square heat shield is a cover for some type of deployable catch hardware.
The slots underneath being for lifting

It's extremely similar to the starlink covers but it makes zero sense for it to be starlink in that position.

Anonymous No. 16451584

no fuck you

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>>16451579

Anonymous No. 16451586

thank you, next

Anonymous No. 16451588

>>16450975
>[Europe]
>[North America]
>[Europe]
>[United States]
kek, poetic

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Anonymous No. 16451589

>kamala wins
>biden issues order to arrest felon husk during interim period of exchange of power
>kamala revokes elons security clearance, siccs DOJ on him and nationalizes SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16451591

The left now goes after Bezos, hope this would push him further to the right.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2024/10/washington-post-bezos-amazon-prime-cancel/680421/

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>>16451585

Anonymous No. 16451594

>>16451591
Everyone knew it was a sinking ship but they would be punished if they didn't get on it. They have to make an example of him or everyone heads for the life boats and the charade is over.

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Anonymous No. 16451596

>>16451591
Bezos has been pro at keeping his mouth shut and donating to dems. He made one move for his newspaper to stay objective and not endorse, and now he's immediately a boogieman. At least he can share the heat with Elon, and realize that there is nothing that will make rabbid libs happy short of total fealty.

Anonymous No. 16451597

>>16451591
he would still be a limp dick faggot who contributes nothing to spaceflight other than being the leech who takes launches away from spacex with an irrelevant and antiquated rocket.

Anonymous No. 16451598

>>16451597
word
bezo's pocket book takes away talent from SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16451599

>>16451597
capitalism thrives on competition.

Anonymous No. 16451602

>>16451591
This is a bed of his own making. That it finally came back to bite him in the ass and he decided to lay off it (at least a bit) is not something worthy of commending.

Anonymous No. 16451604

>>16451598
thats actually the one good purpose blue origin serves. its a vacuum for the useless maggots that got into the spaceflight sector, but are paycheck leeches that dont work with a purpose like getting to mars and are only in it for the money. since life is easier at blue, and they get paid more than spacex, the lazy fucks always go there, leaving the highly driven workers to continue to spacex, willingly taking lower pay (like i would once im out of college)

Anonymous No. 16451609

>>16451599
not when the competition is generations behind the industry leader.

Anonymous No. 16451610

>>16451604
SpaceX doesn't pay shit in general. The guys welding and wiring Starships and super heavy boosters are below the going rate for their fields.

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Anonymous No. 16451611

chirstmas is coming up /sfg/, what are you asking northrup grummanclaus for this year?

Anonymous No. 16451616

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16451618

>>16451597
New Glenn is straight up superior to Falcon 9.

Anonymous No. 16451619

>>16451610
and they gotta live in bumfuck Texas
good thing SpaceX has a bar

Anonymous No. 16451620

>>16451618
is it superior to starship?

Anonymous No. 16451621

>>16451618
qrd?

Anonymous No. 16451622

>>16451618
yes but falcon 9 launches once a week and new glenn has launched never

Anonymous No. 16451624

>>16451620
the fact that starship is going to spend all its time launching starlink and mars missions means that it's not actually going to be that hard to compete with in the commercial sector.

Anonymous No. 16451625

>>16451620
We will have to wait and see. There are a lot of big problems with starship which I'm sure you know about.

Anonymous No. 16451627

>>16451622
OK but nobody asked. the point I was making is that new Glenn is not antiquated compared to falcon. launch cadence has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous No. 16451628

>>16451627
bezos is late to the party
simple as

Anonymous No. 16451631

>>16451627
really not making you case by comparing new glenn to a rocket that first launched 14 years ago

Anonymous No. 16451633

>>16451631
yeah obviously new Glenn is mega late. doesn't change the fact that it's superior to falcon heavy for any mission and has greater payload than starship v1

Anonymous No. 16451634

>>16451599
No it doesn't. The opposite. Read Thiel

Anonymous No. 16451635

>>16451577
Instant failure, you'd also be laughed out of the room if you said this in front of SpaceX employees who've gotten texts and e-mails from him at 2am. He literally lived at Tesla Giga Factory, Twitter HQ, the SpaceX hangar at KSC, Starbase for weeks and months at a time until things were to his liking and then goes back to video games. He lives in his own perpetual kali yuga and the cycle will repeat soon.

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Anonymous No. 16451636

>>16451633
>new glenn superior to falcon heavy

Anonymous No. 16451637

>>16451636
i don't believe this chart

Anonymous No. 16451638

>>16451636
new glenn sisters...

Anonymous No. 16451640

>>16451636
fake. Look at the numbers and use critical thinking

Anonymous No. 16451641

>>16451640
does bezos pay you or do you do it for free?

Anonymous No. 16451642

merlin uses ignition fluid, but how does raptor light?

Anonymous No. 16451644

>>16451642
torch ignition

Anonymous No. 16451645

>>16451599
>capitalism thrives on everyone min maxing so hard they don't have any money left for high risk innovation

Anonymous No. 16451647

>>16451642
i don't know

Anonymous No. 16451649

>>16451642
wooden match

Anonymous No. 16451651

>>16451618
Not if the cadence is low

Anonymous No. 16451652

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2452967-nasa-is-developing-a-mars-helicopter-that-could-land-itself-from-orbit/

I need a non-paywalled version of this

ORBITAL HELICOPTER

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Anonymous No. 16451655

I like new glenn and want to see it succeed

Anonymous No. 16451656

>>16451627
Falcon 1 is "antiquated" and still mogs every existing smallsat launcher on cost/kg, inflation-adjusted

Anonymous No. 16451669

>>16451642
Pyrokinesis

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Anonymous No. 16451674

Did any of your Mars crackpots stop to talk to an actual Mars Engineer before making your wild plans?

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Anonymous No. 16451688

>>16451675
Thousand-foot PLOOM

Anonymous No. 16451701

>>16451674
This latinx faggot posts on threads

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>>16451656
based falcon 1 chad

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Anonymous No. 16451703

>>16451652
apologize

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Anonymous No. 16451708

>>16451674
Does he think people will go there if there's no way to survive?

Anonymous No. 16451709

>>16451674
>It would be unethical to send humans to another planet without infrastructure
How the fuck are we going to build that infrastructure without sending humans there first? Robots can only do so much. what a pea brain

Anonymous No. 16451714

>>16451640
Let me guess, you don't know what C3=0 is

Anonymous No. 16451717

>>16451655
I think it will and yet have almost no impact on anything due to glacially slow cadence and reuse costs only marginally better than expendable.

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Anonymous No. 16451721

This is actually a really good point. Why IS Musk planning to export Earth's water and air to Mars? It seems like it could be harmful to the Earth's ecosystem, no?

Anonymous No. 16451723

>>16451721
Half of Africa still has water and half of China still has clean air so it seems like there's still too much air and water to go around.

Anonymous No. 16451734

No need to export anything, there is enough of it on Mars. I'm denying you the dopamine hit.

Anonymous No. 16451735

>>16451721
>spooky invisible nothingness will kill a man in 3 years
yeah ok buddy

Anonymous No. 16451736

>>16451735
this
radiationfags are so retarded, kek

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Anonymous No. 16451738

>In 2022, ARCA announced the AMi Exploration Initiative, effectively pivoting its business model away from the commercial launch sector and towards cryptocurrency and asteroid mining. The AMi program will utilize the AMi Cargo vehicle and EcoRocket Heavy to mine valuable materials from asteroids. Beginning in the late 2020s, the company plans to start a series of asteroid mining missions to return valuable metals (mostly platinum) to Earth for sale. It intends to fund this venture primarily through the sales of the AMi token, an upcoming cryptocurrency on the Ethereum blockchain. Since then, it appears ARCA is shifting its main focus away from AMi, and towards the CER/military-related programs.
Thoughts on this Romanian Space startup?

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Anonymous No. 16451739

>>16451738
>cryptocurrency
>asteroid mining startup
>european

Anonymous No. 16451740

>>16451738
i would like to make a seed investment on behalf of orange girl, if you know what I'm saying

Anonymous No. 16451749

what's the math 55 of rocket design

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Anonymous No. 16451758

Musk in the mud

Anonymous No. 16451759

>>16451750
>>16451754
I think I saw something like this in a Kerbal Space Program video once

Anonymous No. 16451764

>>16451618
I'm sure it will be when the pressure vessels stop randomly exploding/imploding and they can get more than a rocket mannequin onto a launch site.
I'm excited for the alternate reality where Blue Origin is actually a competitor in space but all they have at the moment is some very cool looking aerospace tech in various states of disassembly, and no fucking numbers about the vehicles performance at all.
They scrapped almost the entire project in 2021 when re-designing the second stage to be re-usable. All that we know is "Big rocket. 7 engines on booster.". There's no specs that still apply at all, other than confirmed numbers of implosions/explosions.

Anonymous No. 16451778

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1850364680495337882?t=8j9EodMGJa5qp6cnKqJYyQ&s=19

>Elon wants to ride on f9 drone ships
>I want to ride on f9 drone ships
WE ARE

Anonymous No. 16451780

https://x.com/cbs4rgv/status/1850305514124538356?t=qYFSyfDn1cVso243E-Tz6Q&s=19
Standard highway getting upgraded and they adding another lane.

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Anonymous No. 16451781

>>16451778

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>>16451780

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Anonymous No. 16451785

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850400989385216013

Anonymous No. 16451786

>>16451785
I'm getting dyson sphere vibes, brehs.

Anonymous No. 16451788

>>16451785
Is he secretly Romanian?

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Anonymous No. 16451790

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850397222183022624

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Anonymous No. 16451791

https://x.com/america/status/1850340249362125038

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>>16451790
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850327261649551455

Anonymous No. 16451794

>>16451791
I don't think Elon understands which side he's pandering to

Anonymous No. 16451795

>>16451674

This is what JPL hires. Cancel all their contracts, raze all the buildings and expand the adjoining frisbee golf course over the enDraadtire site.

Anonymous No. 16451796

>>16451794
I don't think he is pandering to anyone, just stating what he believes and wants

Anonymous No. 16451797

>>16451791
Starmada is better. Someone get Elon to see this.

Anonymous No. 16451798

>>16451794
>pandering
Yes, Elon is merely pretending to be a nerd.

Anonymous No. 16451800

>>16451624

"Hey Elon. Customer out front. Can we spare say a dozen Starship launches next quarter for him?"

"Can do."

"Thanks. I'll let him know."

Anonymous No. 16451801

>>16451419
>>16451449
>>16451797
Starmarsda

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Anonymous No. 16451802

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850313141571482095

notably Tom Mueller was 41 (he quote posted the same post by Arjun Khemani yesterday)

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>>16451802

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Anonymous No. 16451804

https://x.com/texas_lizard/status/1849940996576158054
>Everything we are is on the line...

Anonymous No. 16451807

So where do they put payload in starship

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Anonymous No. 16451809

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850267586988216371

Anonymous No. 16451810

>>16451807
they stretch the ship to be as long as the booster

Anonymous No. 16451812

>>16451809
Well youre usually not rock hard when you piss.

Anonymous No. 16451816

so what are the chances that New Glenn actually launches in November? I'm thinking pretty slim
At this point I don't see it as impossible that Starship V2 launches before New Glenn

Anonymous No. 16451819

>>16451816
0. Bergers Law, it will get delayed

Anonymous No. 16451821

>>16451816
November 2025? Not terribly likely, fully integrated testing is currently being held up by their actual first launch vehicle repeatedly blowing up.

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Anonymous No. 16451825

You know what really grinds my gears? MARTIANS.

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Anonymous No. 16451826

>>16451809
HAHAHA FUCK

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Anonymous No. 16451827

>>16451809
Just make the suits like this, problem solved

Anonymous No. 16451828

>>16451782
Damn, that tower catch put Texas on notice

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Anonymous No. 16451836

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850430101516660840

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Anonymous No. 16451839

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1850336656970371386

Anonymous No. 16451840

>>16451622
>yes but falcon 9 launches 2.5 a week and new glenn has launched never
>>16451627
Falcon will be 15-20 years by the time New Glenn comes into service. By that time, Starship will be obsoleting Falcon 9, not New Glenn. And I highly doubt New Glenn would reach once a week launch of F9, let alone match Starship.

Anonymous No. 16451843

>>16451840
plus what will NG launch? Kuiper, I guess.

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Anonymous No. 16451845

https://x.com/elon_docs/status/1850413422141214858

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Anonymous No. 16451846

First Starship crewed mission to Mars in 2029, Berger's law will be applied to this, so it likely slip to early 2030s.

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>>16451845

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Anonymous No. 16451848

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1850359760555831703

>Are you interested in funding exotic propulsion or energy generation techniques?

Anonymous No. 16451850

>>16451839
> If you warm Mars up it will have an ocean on about 40% of the surface a mile deep if you just warm it up. It can be an Earth like planet. This is important for the longevity of consciousness. There's always some chance that something can happen on Earth.

Interesting, I knew there was quite a bit of water but 40% is a lot

Anonymous No. 16451851

>>16451850
40% of the surface a mile deep is pretty shallow, but yeah I suppose people imagine it as a rocky hellscape.
Just all permafrost. Insulated by rocks and dust on top. If you exposed the ice to solar heating a lot would sublimate in the daytime temperatures.

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>>16451791
https://x.com/iam_smx/status/1850349832579223891

clip when he was actually given the jacket

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Anonymous No. 16451853

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1850335796374777969

Anonymous No. 16451854

>>16451839
>First starship to Mars this year
HUH?

Anonymous No. 16451855

Considering New Glenn has had it's actual mission flying second stage explode twice, and it's first stage explode (which took out the high bay), does anyone actually think it's going to deliver in the next two years?
Blue Origin isn't really into moving fast and breaking stuff, aren't these absolutely enormous setbacks?

Anonymous No. 16451857

>>16451836
Desu I never got this argument. Does Old Ballast Bill have to tweet a congratulations every time he shits a log?

Anonymous No. 16451858

>>16451854
the quote is wrong on the text
what he actually says in the first 34 seconds is

>Well I think we can..
>You can travel to mars roughly every 2 years, every 24 months the planets are aligned and you can travel from earth to mars and we are actually at an planetary alignment right now, or in 2 months, and in roughly 2 years there will be another planetary alignment and that is when we intend to send the first Starship rockets to Mars
>Yeah

Anonymous No. 16451860

>>16451857
but these aren't "shitting a log"
these are historic milestones
first private astronaut spacewalk, astronauts further away than they have been in 50 years, the first orbital class booster landing on a tower

Anonymous No. 16451862

>>16451857
If Elon recovering stranded astronauts/providing emergency services to natural disasters/providing partisan telecom to Ukraine against his best interests/catching a fucking atlas V with a giant robot is him "shitting a log" then I'd like to see what things he actually has to comment on.
Elon's the only reason the US owns space again, and the entire Artemis program is dependent on his shit.

Anonymous No. 16451863

>>16451857
Elon wants to be acknowledged, big reason he started sucking up to other side

Anonymous No. 16451864

>>16451858
oh that makes more sense

Anonymous No. 16451865

>>16451857
A major mile stone for commercial human spaceflight industry by a NASA contractor that paid and funded the program.

Biden had plenty of chance to both take credit and to praise SpaceX/Tesla/Starlink, but his admin has been actively trying to disrupt/destroy them.

Anonymous No. 16451869

https://x.com/bridgitmendler/status/1850275616496779679

I am begging you guys to look at the replies to this tweet and the tweet it's quoting.

Anonymous No. 16451870

>>16451869
so basically phased array antenna ground stations compared to the current parabolic antennas that are used
makes sense I guess

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>>16451869
https://x.com/bridgitmendler/status/1844018177724059833

Anonymous No. 16451876

>>16451870
It's important to remember who this woman is, and then look at the replies and the insanely disproportionate number of likes.

Anonymous No. 16451877

>>16451876
you mean jeets hornyposting or what? I don't know who she is

Anonymous No. 16451878

>>16451876
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgit_Mendler

oh a former child actress ok

Anonymous No. 16451880

>>16451872
"lmao we figured out basic RF engineering"

NASA's guide for student cubesats has a section about getting a FCC license to broadcast to your satellite and mentions any ham radio operator can do it

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Anonymous No. 16451884

>>16450954
V2 Ships have significantly less TPS coverage.

Anonymous No. 16451885

>>16451884
probably saves a bunch of mass

Anonymous No. 16451888

>>16451884
Could be a sign the re-entry trajectory is going to be a lot longer of a glide on a controlled descent

Anonymous No. 16451889

>>16451791
They still have jackets left over from a 20 year old show?

Anonymous No. 16451890

>>16451869
? I dont get it. Idk who this is, what's the big deal, nor what's so bad about the comments. Your post is retarded

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Anonymous No. 16451891

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1850455174193578097

Anonymous No. 16451894

>>16451877
>>16451878
>>16451890
She's the chick who did an interview a few months ago talking about how it's unfair that Elon gets the contracts that he does. The comments on the initial tweet praise what she's doing, but throw shade at Musk and Starlink.

Anonymous No. 16451896

>>16451869
I saw several identical comments from different accounts, I wonder what percentage of replies to that post are made by bots

Anonymous No. 16451905

>>16451674
with that logic, we need to pull out of Antarctica IMMEDIATELY

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Anonymous No. 16451906

>>16451721
>>16451735

Anonymous No. 16451908

>>16451750
>>16451754
>>16451756
>>16451757
>>16451758
It's the ghost of Otrag!

Anonymous No. 16451910

>>16451750
Is this a fucking bottle rocket

Anonymous No. 16451912

>>16451910
No, it is a victorian era steam rocket and I'm not joking

Anonymous No. 16451918

>>16451896
the state of twitter got so bad that you can't even tell anymore if it's bots or real people

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Anonymous No. 16451920

>>16451912
Based, honestly.

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Anonymous No. 16451936

https://x.com/AshleyKillip/status/1850465265118773458

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>>16451936

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>>16451937

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>>16451939

Anonymous No. 16451950

>>16451493
fuck off

Anonymous No. 16451955

>>16451633
>it has superior payload to the version of starship that's never going to fly payloads
okay.

Anonymous No. 16451956

>>16451955
He's right though, beats starhopper too.

Anonymous No. 16451957

>>16451956
beat by dick

Anonymous No. 16451958

>>16451750
how are they getting the money to continue this scam, did they trick some clueless venture capitalist?

Anonymous No. 16451960

>>16451958
Scott Manley was officially name dropped by the company as being a significant source of lost VC funds due to a video he made on it, so yeah I guess that's how they make money.

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Anonymous No. 16451967

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1850361644238471600

Anonymous No. 16451969

>>16451791
"We want to make Starfleet real" needs to get added to the bingo card.

Anonymous No. 16451975

>>16450943
>50 cycles
>Minecraft is 20 ticks/s
huh?

Anonymous No. 16451979

>>16451579
>>16451593
dude who whines about "poltards" spotted

Anonymous No. 16451980

>>16451967
That makes the judiciary system all the more important.

Anonymous No. 16451981

What is the final solution to the anti-poltard schizo?

Anonymous No. 16451985

>>16451979
this post is the dutchflaggot falseflagging beware

Anonymous No. 16451987

>>16451979
>d-dude who whines about "poltards" spotted

Anonymous No. 16451989

>>16451981
A glorious Trump Victory

Anonymous No. 16451991

>>16451987
>d-d-d-d-d-dude who o-o-o-o-overuses greentext stuttering s-s-s-s-spotted

Anonymous No. 16451995

>>16451979
>d-dude who whines about "poltards" spotted
this is definetly the anti-poltard schizo

Anonymous No. 16451996

>>16451967
>technological direct democracy
Council faggot where are you? They're using my idea, get fucked

Anonymous No. 16452002

fuck you.

Anonymous No. 16452013

get fucked lmao

Anonymous No. 16452018

>>16452002
>>16452013
found the anti-poltard

Anonymous No. 16452021

>>16451967
To be dësu it bothers me that Elon Musk is an atheist

Anonymous No. 16452028

>>16451593
Is this retard actually disputing the cost estimated by GAO?

Anonymous No. 16452032

>>16452021
yeah if he was a based christian he'd be pro-immigration and pro-miscegenation and pro-israel and that would be way cooler

Anonymous No. 16452041

>>16451593
>Source: A furfag working on and defending the Artemis program to death

Anonymous No. 16452075

>>16452021
Don't worry about it, Someone's going to start a movement about it being a Christians' duty to spread Gods' creation to other barren worlds.

Anonymous No. 16452092

>>16451889
Space Force, not Star Trek Enterprise. Space Force is a branch of the US military, formed about five years ago, Star Trek Enterprise was a television program in the early 2000s. I'm not at all clear on how you made this error.

Anonymous No. 16452096

>>16452021
>Elon Musk is an atheist
good

Anonymous No. 16452104

Why can't NASA just use SPMTs to transport SLS?

Anonymous No. 16452105

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16452108

>>16452041
if you can prove that hes lying he would be fired already. hes only allowed to slander starship with true information.

Anonymous No. 16452117

>>16452028
GAO should be investigated for corruption.

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Anonymous No. 16452131

JAXA employee cosplaying as HTV-X

Anonymous No. 16452140

>>16452131
every cute JAXA workers should by law be forced to dress up as Clear for the entire month of October every year

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>>16452131
max-Qute

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Anonymous No. 16452170

>>16452131
vs.

Anonymous No. 16452172

I love chinese hypersonics sector, all the glimpse that we have of it are amazing
>They launch HASTE-style hypersonic flying test bed on a bi-weekly basis
>They literally have ISINGLASS style X-15-speed rocket-reconnaissance drone that does regular flight over east asia
It's funny, they absolutely have top tier capabilities that can sink every american carrier in 2 hours, but it also doesn't matter because the americans can also do that to the chinese, and future wars won't be fought with carriers

Anonymous No. 16452180

>>16452131
SOVL
>>16452170
soulless

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16452182

>>16452180
i’m trans btw (by the way)

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Anonymous No. 16452187

>>16452131

Anonymous No. 16452190

>>16452131
what happened with that guy who was posting in here asking for halloween costume ideas?

Anonymous No. 16452199

>>16452170
nice teeth

Anonymous No. 16452212

>>16451936
>>16451937
>>16451939
>>16451940
its over

Anonymous No. 16452219

>>16451937
>>16451936
>>16451939
>Confirming to the flame trenchcels
Lol 5 years of failure

Anonymous No. 16452222

>>16452219
>last 5 years of launching starships with success
>failure
you're coping hard, they launched many times with the showerhead design and you're in denial.

Anonymous No. 16452225

>>16452092
>I was given this jacket... it's got Star Trek Enterprise on it
Are you blind or what

Anonymous No. 16452230

Does starship need sabatier process to get people back? Can you land fuel or send fuel to LMO, can you stop boiloff on mars? No one will go to mars in 4 years if you can't get back.

Anonymous No. 16452231

>>16452021
shouldn't you be crying about the firmament instead of polluting 4chan

Anonymous No. 16452232

>>16452225
Space Force put Enterprise on their jacket?

Anonymous No. 16452233

>>16452230
probably have to send methane there initially and some power infrastructure to keep it from boiling off, O2 can be extracted from the atmosphere easier (no mining for water necessary)
a few nuclear plants would sure be convenient

Anonymous No. 16452237

>>16451591
rats always flee a sinking ship first

>>16451996
Musk is retard-tier when it comes to civics unfortunately.

His system would result in factionalism, and people who aren't qualified to work on a given system voting down the more relevant ideas of people who actually are simply because they have more people.
Basically it turns Mars into a popularity contest.

Instead of having a system where the best people from each section are elevated through election by their peers to govern as part of a command team, you have one where mediocrity, the lowest common denominator, and regression to the mean will reign instead.

Anonymous No. 16452241

>>16452237
>people who aren't qualified to work on a given system voting down the more relevant ideas of people who actually are simply because they have more people.
how is this different from what we have now?

Anonymous No. 16452243

>>16452241
god anon you're so fucking smart I'm so glad you're here to point this out

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Anonymous No. 16452246

shart trench

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Anonymous No. 16452251

>>16452246
This pic made me want a spaceflight company management sim game.

Anonymous No. 16452253

>Debunks your hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1lq6Jv-Fmk

Anonymous No. 16452255

>>16452251
Goddamn, why hasn't anyone made a Starbase Tycoon game yet? SNES had an airline simulator 30 years ago, surely it can be done.

Anonymous No. 16452259

Do you ever talk about SpaceX or space in general with your coworkers? Since everything is intermixed with politics, as soon as you say something nice about SpaceX or Musk, you pretty much outed yourself as an extremist. I knew some coworkers who praised him 5-6 years ago. I don't want to find out what they think now. Fun times.

Anonymous No. 16452260

>>16451980
I think they should use a inquisitorial tribunal system.
The adversarial system wouldn't work on Mars, at least not in it's early period.

But that means that the security section could have a lot of undo influence over judiciary proceedings.
Can't think of a way to balance this out.

>>16452241
That indeed is a problem with mass democracy.
Maybe you noticed.
In Earth political schemes, citizens aren't split up into blocs based on the critical systems they are collectively responsible for operating and maintaining.
No, every person votes for their single representative regardless of their use to society. This causes them to split into monolithic red team/blue team on a national level.

Key difference here is there wouldn't be a reason to factionalize since regardless of the size of any given section they only have one seat on the council, and maybe a backup in case something happens. This means a large group can't simply dominate Mars politics.

That's why I have divided the citizens into sections responsible for electing an expert from among them to the Supreme Council, and decided to periodically shift a fraction of each section to another section for cross training as a matter of protocol.

This fosters a broadening of competence and critical redundancies in case of injury or sickness, along with a sense of interconnectedness and camaraderie between sections that would otherwise grow increasingly distant and eventually come to odds over some retarded vote they all have to worry about.

All that mitigates this inherent difficulty with voting on everything because that task has been delegated to the most qualified people from each section as chosen by that section.

Anonymous No. 16452263

>>16452253
>tankie something
yeah no thanks

Anonymous No. 16452266

>>16452259
>you pretty much outed yourself as an extremist
I do this whenever possible, no I will not sit down you will hear what I have to say.

Anonymous No. 16452267

>>16451649
This is actually how Soyuz engines light up btw

Anonymous No. 16452268

>>16452259
my coworkers were impressed by the catch and did not mention elon musk at all in the short conversation we had about it.

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Anonymous No. 16452277

>>16452267
holy based
pure KISS engineering

Anonymous No. 16452282

>>16452237
You are unbelievably stupid.

Anonymous No. 16452284

>>16452260
>critical systems they are collectively responsible for operating and maintaining
This is a communist fantasy.

Anonymous No. 16452285

>>16452260
so a caste system.

Anonymous No. 16452291

This video absolutely OBLITERATES Felon Mu- sorry, Elon Musk

Anonymous No. 16452293

>>16452285
it's almost like those form naturally for some reason
the part of that to avoid though would be it being hereditary, you should be able to rise through the systems with hard work and intelligence. Everyone in the spot best suited for their capability level.

Anonymous No. 16452295

>>16452291
felon husk is a dead giveaway that someone is baiting. actual eds sufferers call him leon or elmo

Anonymous No. 16452297

>>16452293
Upward mobility based on competence?You mean just like in the free market? You're a dumbass

Anonymous No. 16452300

>>16452285
the caste system didn't have any voting, and didn't put their divisions on the same level
this body politic would be composed of equals
a Supreme Council would effectively be the legislative, executive, and judicial branches rolled into one

the question for me is how they relate to the command structure

>>16452284
>>16452282
lmao
direct democracy is unbelievably stupid, unless you're Athens and the only way you get a vote is if you join the city's military and provide your own gear, and that's why commies get suckered in by it

Anonymous No. 16452302

>>16452253
this guy made a completely retarded video about the Tesla Semi when it was unveiled saying its going to be impossible

Anonymous No. 16452304

>>16452297
are you claiming the free market doesn't have a caste system? It's not directly stated or laid out but it's obviously there. It's just based on money and not competence.

Anonymous No. 16452307

>>16452300
pretty much all the people on the colony are going to be highly intelligent, care about the colony and invested in it working out
you would think these traits would be much more pronounced later as well even with a higher population

Anonymous No. 16452308

>>16452300
>my collectivist utopia will only appoint the most qualified people because... it just will!!
>>16452304
The competence based upward mobility of the free market freed the world

Anonymous No. 16452316

>>16452293
>>16452304
the word you're looking for is "division of labor"
that is something people do naturally

this is reflected in the specialists that would be assigned to operate and maintain critical systems like life support and power

these tasks require familiarity and specialized knowledge, which is why you want a group dedicated to studying and monitoring those systems to learn more about it
it's silly to assume everyone will have to do everything

>>16452308
>collectivist utopia
wait, did you just assume a single individual would be responsible for operating life support systems

or that nobody at all would be responsible for providing power to the colony
you hate the idea of responsibility because you refuse to clean your room

>>16452307
if they are so intelligent then they will support the system that places the most qualified people as recognized by their peers into seats of undisputed authority

Anonymous No. 16452320

>>16452316
Please fuck off. This is not spaceflight related.

Anonymous No. 16452321

For the sake of human spaceflight I hope everyone here who can votes for Trump

Anonymous No. 16452322

Hey I'm a typical richfag from Earth who just bought himself a ticket to your Mars colony!
Me and my clique of richfag friends outnumber you because we're the only ones who can afford the price.
I can't wait to start VOOOOOTING on all the critical projects you are working on.

What do you mean I'm not qualified?
THIS IS AN ATTACK ON DEMOCRACY

Anonymous No. 16452326

>>16452320
see >>16451967

before you start bitching at me for singlehandedly solving Mars politics again, direct some hate at the twitter screencap posting

Anonymous No. 16452327

Go be a communist in venezuela bro

Anonymous No. 16452331

>>16452326
All the space news comes from the social media owned by the owner of SpaceX. This is not like a twitter screen cap thread on a different board you may be more familiar with (and should consider returning to)
>>16452322
>he's actually advocating against voting rights
You're putting me in a self defense situation

Anonymous No. 16452333

>>16452327
>you don't understand, venezuela didn't work because I wasn't in charge!

Anonymous No. 16452335

>>16452322
>sorry goyi- I mean anon, you aren't part of the banking guild so you don't get a say on what we do

Anonymous No. 16452338

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16452340

>>16452237
>election by their peers

what could go wrong

Anonymous No. 16452341

>>16452199
*lips

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>>16452341
they're obviously teeth, you're an idiot

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16452345

It is funny since syndicalism is one of those turbo online lefty beliefs so to see someone espousing it pop up here really makes me think. 100% this is also one of the fags who cry about /pol/ every thread

Anonymous No. 16452346

>>16452182
>>16452263
>>16452335
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16452347

>>16452345
>>16452346
Holy fuck do I never miss

Anonymous No. 16452349

>>16452347
what. what is syndicalism

Anonymous No. 16452350

>>16452327
nothing about that shit is communist and you know it
as if the idea that someone or a group of people is held responsible for providing people with oxygen is somehow against property rights

oh wait, you probably want to CHARGE people to breathe instead of COMPING it
lmao get fucking airlocked richfag tardfaec

>>16452331
>nooooooooo
>you NEED to allow me to vote on things I have no knowledge of because I gave a private corporation money
top kek
richfags never learn

>the social media owned by the owner of SpaceX
if it's on topic enough to post Musk talking about Martian civics, it's on topic enough for me to demonstrate why Musk doesn't understand civics

Anonymous No. 16452352

>>16452345
I honestly think it's a /pol/ teenager that got his notions about politics from bait threads, vibes, and HOI. It isn't coherent enough to be someone that read a book (or watched a breadtuber)

Anonymous No. 16452354

>>16452340
Go on, I'm still waiting to hear why that's a disaster waiting to happen.
Because it makes perfect sense to me.

Anonymous No. 16452356

>>16452350
You don't understand civics. Everyone in this general has been telling you you're retarded. Next time don't share your opinion because it isn't thread relevant and frankly it isn't informed. If you'd like to suggest some books or something then just drop them and move on but from here it seems like an autistic fantasy

Anonymous No. 16452359

wait do people in this thread actually think direct democracy isn't retarded just because le funny doge man can't think of anything better

Anonymous No. 16452361

>>16452354
It's literally a government formed from Union bosses. Tell me how you think that would go

Anonymous No. 16452363

>>16452359
Please go back to wherever you came from

Anonymous No. 16452366

>>16452356
direct democracy is lowest common denominator regression to the mean slop and everyone with a passing familiarity with civics knows that

the only reason it worked some of the time in Athens is because most people in the city weren't allowed to vote

voting priveliges were restricted to the military class, end of story

for all the autists screeching ITT about how my solution is dumb, there are literally no arguments against it
whereas I have outlined several reasons DD is DOA already

Anonymous No. 16452367

This spergfest is being done by the guy who always screams about "poltards" btw

Anonymous No. 16452370

this feels allot more like botting with how fast the long messages come out. similar vibes to that russian missile bot spam, just as an example not as in its contents.

Anonymous No. 16452371

>>16452259
Yes. Even though he's not into anything and a lefty, he's still my friend and discuss some cool stuff as friends do. I only shit on people online for their own fault for buying into media. My friends already know about Chomsky's critique of media propaganda machine that elites use for spreading propaganda. So they have strong distrust for media as well. Not necessarily red pilled, but black pilled.

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Anonymous No. 16452372

Mars will be governed by sortition
Simple as

Anonymous No. 16452373

>>16452366
This guy just completed high school civics and thinks he can run the world

Anonymous No. 16452374

>>16452361
Not unions.
You seem to be fixated on this as a "labor" issue.
Labor unions come from disputes between workers and employers as to compensation.

The sections on Mars would be responsible for operating systems that, if even one should fail, would cause the colonists do die in agonizing fashion.
Continuing to survive in a hostile envirome IS the compensation, the classical Earther labor dynamics wouldn't even exist.

That's why these people and the systems they operate need to have equal representation in government.
No one system is superflurous, each one needs to be operating for the colony to survive and the primary functions of the state so constituted should be to ensure they continue operating.

Anonymous No. 16452375

>>16452259
Whenever there's a Starship launch I stop the show and all my employees gather to watch it

Anonymous No. 16452379

>>16452374
Wrong and stupid. My life is already supported by people running machines. Water, food, shelter, transportation, etc, etc. These are all handled fine a bunch of companies. Adding air into the mix does not change your political or market requirements one bit. It just adds one more commodity. Your visions of a Mars colony are uninformed at best, delusional at worst.

Anonymous No. 16452380

>>16452367
i redirect anons to /pol/ when necessary but i dont do anything more than link the board. was dealing with strep throat anyways i just got here.

Anonymous No. 16452383

watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMoomWmIkww

Anonymous No. 16452384

>>16452383
nty

Anonymous No. 16452386

>>16452345
i think people might be crying about /pol/ because a /pol/fag came up here and intentionally tried as hard as he could to flood the place with newfags.

there's really no reason to defend /pol/ unless you feel somehow personally hurt by it.

Anonymous No. 16452387

Obsessed

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>>16452321
That goes without saying. Voting for the top whale psychiatrist.

Anonymous No. 16452389

>>16452379
>Water, food, shelter, transportation, etc, etc.
so you live in a city and can't grow your own food or build a house or drill a well
it didn't used to be like that you know, there was a time when people didn't rely entirely on corporate monopolies for survival
this lack of self-sustainability on an international scale, the JIT supply chain, is exactly why civilization itself is under threat of collapse if just one of the links fail or if there were a burst of solar radiation of pole shift that fried the electrical grid across the planet

>These are all handled fine a bunch of companies.
companies like Duke Energy, Norfolk Southern, Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, etc, etc
wow, I am so filled with confidence

who owns the water you drink anon
they are responsible for the microplastics and fluoride in it
good luck getting them to do anything about it

So let me get this straight, you UNIRONICALLY want to charge people on Mars for the air they get to breathe.
For a private coroporatiion to be able to turn off your fucking ATMOSPHERE if you didn't pay them their funkopop allotment.

Anonymous No. 16452390

>>16452386
nta but 2nd part is true

Anonymous No. 16452391

hey guys
on Mars the oxygen you need to breathe will be a COMMODITY you have to pay for

but don't worry, because you get to VOOOOOOOTE in our patented Direct Democracy (tm)

Anonymous No. 16452392

>>16451937
would skateboard/10

Anonymous No. 16452394

>>16452392
Debbit

Anonymous No. 16452395

>>16452291
sorry forgot to link it, xd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F9QzXjUB10

Anonymous No. 16452396

>>16452389
I live on five acres in the middle of nowhere dumbass, and in any case no one on Mars is subsistence living. You're either living nearly indistinguishably from the average gigafactory employee or you're dead.
>So let me get this straight, you UNIRONICALLY want to charge people on Earth for the water they get to drink
If extracting and processing it costs money, the money has to come from somewhere
>>16452391
I mean there's free air but it's 6 milibars of CO2

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16452399

Thread reminder. If you don't like the current /leftypol/ spam then you're /pol/ and need to leave. /SFG/ is pro kamala after all (no non-faggot politics allowed though)

Anonymous No. 16452400

>>16452391
whats your point? direct democracy is a good idea for a mars colony. representative democracy wouldnt work well with so few people. lottery elections would work too.

Anonymous No. 16452401

>payload bay reduced by 30%

Anonymous No. 16452405

>>16452401
time to stretch it out again

Anonymous No. 16452407

>>16452396
>If extracting and processing it costs money, the money has to come from somewhere
it doesn't cost money, it costs energy
so you see, the power is critical to life support

Does money generate energy?
No, money is a placeholder for the barter system at the end of the day. It's a tool we use to make exchange between two interested parties easier.

Money is going to be irrelevant to any early Mars colony because everyone involved will be a single interested party.
At that point, economic exchange of any substance will be between them and Earth.
Earth quite naturally be interested in investing in Martian endeavors with the idea of extracting some value for themselves out of it.

But the entire Mars project is about making life interplanetary, not Earth profit margins.
Profits will play a role in getting people on board to that end, but as soon as you start restricting access to life sustaining necessities like fucking air based on who is willing to suck your cock, other colonists are going to start thinking about killing you instead.

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Anonymous No. 16452412

>>16452405
Fuck that. ITS NOW

Anonymous No. 16452413

>>16452400
>direct democracy is a good idea for a mars colony
why

>representative democracy wouldnt work well with so few people
it would because you need a designated decision making body not only because it's simply more efficient and higher quality as a result of the selection process, but in order to not cause rifts between the voting blocs that would necessarily arise between colonists in a DD scheme

the sections are critical not only to the maintenance of physical systems that allow the colony to survive, but to the political system too

>lottery elections would work too
no...

Anonymous No. 16452414

>>16452407
This is completely nonsensical. Please stop posting.

Anonymous No. 16452415

>>16452412
>version 6
falcon xx was peak sovl

Anonymous No. 16452416

>>16452414
get btfo richfag autist

Anonymous No. 16452417

>>16452412
What’s now?

Anonymous No. 16452419

>>16452388
Once we establish communication with whales we will design ships to bring them to the stars with us, the dolphins too. If octopi quit being so obtuse then they can come along too.

Anonymous No. 16452420

>>16452417
The image is a few years old, needs updating

Anonymous No. 16452422

>>16452412
I want Elon to start calling Starship a Big Fucking Rocket again

Anonymous No. 16452423

>>16452413
All of this is predicated on the idea of centralization of critical systems. You can avoid risks with redundancy, like if there are three of them operated by different companies.
>>16452416
It's nonsensical. He explains that money is used to translate value between commodities like power and life support while saying money isn't necessary. Then he starts talk about profits on Earth. This isn't coherent

Anonymous No. 16452428

>>16452399
Kek anon got btfo

Anonymous No. 16452433

>>16452259
>with your coworkers
I don't have a job

Anonymous No. 16452435

>>16452423
>commodities like power and life support
those are not consumer products like corn, gasoline, etc

they are systems, that if they were to fail, will result in the death of colonists
that potential for failure is not acceptable, and the primary task of Martian government is to ensure these SERVICES remain online for the continued operation of the colony

>predicated on the idea of centralization of critical systems
yeah, you want a representative from each one of the sections that operate these systems to coordinate with command authority
see, centralization allows for coordinated relief efforts in the event of an emergency

>avoid risks with redundancy, like if there are three of them operated by different companies
now we're talking
who do these companies report to
see, to me I think we do need redundant systems but they should all be under the supervision of a central governing body

Consider this.
Are you going to have three different communication systems run by different competing interests that won't share proprietary coding and signals with one another too?
That sounds like it could become a problem.

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>>16452440

Anonymous No. 16452442

>>16452435
>the primary task of Martian government is to ensure these SERVICES remain online for the continued operation of the colony
Sure maybe the government pays them from taxes, I don't care. You don't need to integrate it into the command structure.
>centralization allows for coordinated relief efforts in the event of an emergency
FEMA is notoriously worse than a collection of Baptist charities. How new are you? Elon was butting heads with FEMA like a week ago
>who do these companies report to
Their customers
>they should all be under the supervision of a central governing body
Seriously how new are you? SpaceX was butting heads with the FAA like last week
>Consider my headcannon
No. Androids can call iPhones, Verizon can use AT&T towers.

Anonymous No. 16452443

>>16452441
Insane

Anonymous No. 16452445

>>16452440
>ywn get a whiff of Io
>>16452443
yeah

Anonymous No. 16452450

>>16452428
Leftists always cry to janny

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Anonymous No. 16452452

>>16452443

Anonymous No. 16452453

>>16452442
>You don't need to integrate it into the command structure.
Command is very interested in their life support, power, and communications working as intended.

They will appropriately have the authority to enact legistlation designed to ensure that continuing functionality, to detain and try those who would interfere with those essential functions, and in the event of an emergency elect from among their number a dictator to see out the crisis if they were unable to reach a unanimous consensus on mitigation.

>FEMA is notoriously worse than a collection of Baptist charities.
FEMA isn't elected by the people.
They are appointed.
The Supreme Council would do a better job than FEMA because they would actually be aware when their communication systems fail.

>customers
their "customers" would be the same people who are extracting the oxygen and growing food
by the way, horticulure section could also potentially provide oxygen too since their plants need CO2 to thrive
face it, the economic system you are familiar with on Earth is uniquely unsuited for a thriving Mars colony

>the FAA
see section on FEMA
none of them are elected, they are appointed

Anonymous No. 16452457

>>16452452
Holy FUCK, free energy idea:
Tidal heating constellation around jupiter. They then transmit that power

Anonymous No. 16452459

>>16452452
looks lumpy

Anonymous No. 16452465

>>16452459
Earth is lumpy too.
Check out a geoid sometime.

The furthest point on land from the center of the Earth is in Ecuador.

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Anonymous No. 16452468

There WILL be a war on the solar system soon. Earthers Confederation System vs Asteroid Belt and Jovian System Republic

And it will look like this :
https://youtu.be/NkF2zEzqWR4

Anonymous No. 16452479

>>16452468
Whoever made this, bravo: https://youtu.be/RMlM1w4uO9M

Anonymous No. 16452480

>>16452453
I'm not sure why I'm arguing. It's not like your idea will ever be implemented, it's not like you'll ever be in charge of anything. Elon wants direct democracy and a free market and that's what'll play out.

Anonymous No. 16452487

>>16452468
>>16452479
So Children of a Dead Earth did have an impact after all?

Anonymous No. 16452503

>>16452480
>free market
on air
you realize you are actively advocating for charging people to breathe and hydrate
that's not a free market, that's the people who control the atmosphere and their Earth handlers dictating what you do and are allowed to say

that shit is literally never getting implemented and if it does it will be a nightmare for anyone involved, least of all because the perps are getting airlocked
and I doubt Musk would support that idea either
even if he's thickheaded enough to keep up the DD meme

Anonymous No. 16452515

>>16452354
Some people are more equal than others

Anonymous No. 16452516

>>16452468
these basedfi works with gatling guns on spaceships are so silly.
Real space combat will be like naval combat on mega steroids.
Ships engage from maximum distancce only limited by the curvature of the earth and the fact that projectiles lose energy to the atmosphere.
The only limit to engagement distances in space combat will be the delta v you can impart on projectiles. Exchanges of fire will take place over months or years. The only safety will be being very deep or very far out of the suns gravity well giving you a high relative velocity to incoming projectiles making them easier to avoid. gatling guns are useless. if you destroy an incoming projectile there is no atmosphere for the fragments to lose their kinetic energy to.

Anonymous No. 16452518

Do you think we will see Tesla Bots heading to Mars in a Starship Block 2.5 (Ship 64 f.e) in 2026 ?

Anonymous No. 16452519

it's hilarious to see anon viciously attacking FEMA, FCC, FAA, etc, then turn around and defend the dominance of private corporations in space

do you simply not realize that those aforementioned regulatory agencies exist primarily to defend the embedded corporate monopolistic interests that bought off the people who appointed them, and to hamper the efforts of potential competitors who are simply smaller than those industrial giants who can afford the ridiculous costs imposed on the entire sector by said agencies

Anonymous No. 16452521

>>16452516
>Ships engage from maximum distancce
Do you intend to shoot beyond the precision of your weapons + the ability of the enemy to dodge those weapons with enough reaction time?

Anonymous No. 16452522

>>16452518
Possibly.

Anonymous No. 16452523

>>16452518
Yes

Anonymous No. 16452529

>>16452519
There shouldn't be any regulatory agencies. Humans should be able to do the most amount of stuff without any regulatory framework. If people want to build houses, they shouldn't have to seek 10 different approval process. If people want to build a rocket tower in the middle of swam next to an ocean in a rainy season with hurricanes every other month or so, they should be able to do so without being fined a million dollars for spilling some small drinking water that was used as a means to dampen noise and heat energy from the rocket.

Anonymous No. 16452530

>>16452515
some sections will have more people than others by necessity
which is a problem when trying to governmentally operate on a colony wide level under direct democracy

even if one section is smaller than another, both should have an equal say in government if their roles are equally essential to the operations of the colony as a whole

those exceptional individuals and their skillset will eventually become known to the people they work with regularly, which is exactly why procedures should be instituted for their peers to elevate said individuals to the highest seat of power

Anonymous No. 16452531

>>16452519
You're having a cringe /leftypol/ moment btw

Anonymous No. 16452538

>>16452529
>If people want to build houses, they shouldn't have to seek 10 different approval process.
I agree.
Have personally seen what happens when someone for example wants to build a barn, does it better than any approved contractor could because they have the knowledge, but is made by the state to halt work until they do all the autism shit the pencilpushers want.

Basically every corporation you can imagine working in space would have to report to these regulators because they are based in certain nations.
This is why SpaceX has to report to the FAA, which is unelected.
Which is why any Martian government should be independent of Earth corpos.

If Earth corpos want to do buisness on Mars, they should have to respond to the Martian government. Not an Earth one.
Now imagine Earther government response when independent corporations are founded on Mars.
It's gonna be bad.

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Anonymous No. 16452540

HOP WHEN

Anonymous No. 16452546

>>16452540
14 days

Anonymous No. 16452556

>>16452516
the gatling guns are CIWS for shooting down missiles/drones
if you damage the guidance/RCS, the hit probability goes down to near zero

Anonymous No. 16452564

>>16452412
>Still rendering Superheave with legs

Anonymous No. 16452568

total commie death

Anonymous No. 16452569

>>16452521
>Do you intend to shoot beyond the precision of your weapons
If your have enough fuel for course correction then you remain precise at any range.
>the ability of the enemy to dodge those weapons with enough reaction time?
aeroplanes dodge anti aircraft missiles by pulling maneuvres and confusing the computer guiding the missile. asuming computers get better then confusing them will get harder and the role of human pilot will largely be replaced by computers making reaction time irrelivant. the primary defense will be maneuvre, so the way to be at an advantage is if the enemy missile doesnt have much maneuvring fuel left after the burn to intercept you.

Anonymous No. 16452570

>>16452564
even the newest render is clearly a few years old

Anonymous No. 16452571

anyone pretending that they can charge you to breathe should be depressurized before they do it to you

Anonymous No. 16452575

>>16450682
yeah they think space is fake, the earth is flat. and Isntreal did 9-11. they are so crazy aren't they?

Anonymous No. 16452576

>>16452571
You gotta get over yourself. Things cost money

Anonymous No. 16452578

>>>/co/146115931

Anonymous No. 16452585

>>16452569
>If your have enough fuel for course correction then you remain precise at any range.
If you refer to the weapons themselves that means that all warfare out there is going to be composed of drones, in some form of another, then those drones have to get close to bring their ordnance to effective range, aka a range that the enemy cannot reasonably scape from and from which the error of shooting/exploding is acceptable, because even if it is a gatling gun or a laser is not going to always perfectly align with the target at absolutely any distance
>making reaction time irrelivant
Even if "internal" reaction time is 0 and you have perfect information, it is not the same knowing whether you have 5 seconds or 5 minutes to calculate a maneuver that is optimal for your an unoptimal for the enemy, ie: Maybe your engines do not have the adequate thrust to push you away in time or maybe for simply swiveling the turrets to shoot down the incoming projectiles(a destroyed projectile does not maneuver nor explode within your vicinity).

A hypothetical scenario: The enemy throws his drones, the mission o these drones is to get close enough to explode their Casaba-Howitzers. If they are 6 hours away from me it is a battle of deltaV because I am going to try to outspend them before they reach their kill zone, if they are 6 seconds away the best I can do is try to wiggle a lot and hope, but in no part of this scenario the range never stops mattering, because the drones do have a kill zone that depends on their inherent precision, the speed of their ordnance, the probability of kill according to the enemy's ability to react(in time and space) and the enemy's actual defenses.
PD: Also I just realized that we have reached a point where we might consider missiles suicide drones and revisionists will refer to missiles as primitive suicide drones and rockets as self propelled bullets.

Anonymous No. 16452588

>>16452578
What do you think this is? /Elon Musk worthship general/?

Anonymous No. 16452590

>>16452588
I mean anon let's be honest here

Anonymous No. 16452591

>>16452576
>I own the water AND the air.

"people" like you shouldn't even exist in the first place
literally everyone would be better off if that weren't the case

space, thankfully, is devoid of your kind

Anonymous No. 16452592

>>16452588
Nah, that thread is just a good collection of 'elon haters greatest hits'

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Anonymous No. 16452593

>>16452571
>>16452576
>Company: I will charge you for these resources
>Colonists: No, you shall surely die if you try
>Company: Very well, public resource it is
Done

Anonymous No. 16452595

Seething all day huh. Grand use of time for a leftist

Anonymous No. 16452596

>>16452588
see >>16451967

Everything our Doge Elon says is sacrosanct.

Anonymous No. 16452598

>>16452571
like how on earth they charge you for water? you don't have to pay for it, but then you have to find your own way to not die of thirst. if you can find your own mars air you don't have to pay the communal air fee.

Anonymous No. 16452603

You are actually charged for air indirectly through carbon credits

Anonymous No. 16452604

>>16450842
It also means that launches to the space station are visible all the way up and down the eastern seaboard, which is cool

Anonymous No. 16452606

>>16452591
>live on a rock devoid of anything that could support life
>someone is willing to deliver to you the resources that will let you live, for a marginal cost, because it costs them
>ERMMM, YOU SHOULD GIVE THAT TO ME FOR FREE
Sorry nigga, the megacorp will not be delivering the next shipment of thallium.

Anonymous No. 16452607

>>16452593
But why would the company still make air if they can't charge for it? I don't understand what you aren't understanding
>>16452591
Why would an entity not own a resource it processed

Anonymous No. 16452609

>Gandalf.
breathe the free air again my friend

Anonymous No. 16452610

>>16451591
>The left now goes after Bezos
They hated him already, second only to Trump and Elon, he is one of their favorite billionaire whipping boys.

Anonymous No. 16452612

>>16452610
they love him whenever he's "competing" with elon and hate him whenever he's alone

Anonymous No. 16452614

>>16451593
Reminder that nobody actually knows how many refueling flights will be required. Anybody who authoritatively states a number is making it up.

Anonymous No. 16452615

don't be silly, no one is going to be charged for air per se. it will be covered under poll tax for residents and tourist tax for visitors.

Anonymous No. 16452616

>>16452607
>But why would the company still make air if they can't charge for it?
It aids humans (crucial component) to be alive, which is the optimum state of an employee.

Anonymous No. 16452617

>>16451960
>>Scott Manley was officially name dropped by the company as being a significant source of lost VC funds due to a video he made on it,
how salty are they?

Anonymous No. 16452618

>>16452598
>like how on earth they charge you for water

if they own the water they are responsible for microplastics and fluoride in the drinking supply
oh wait, they only "own" the water when it's convenient to them

any time they accidently mismanage the lakes or reservoir (Duke Energy NC Lake Lure Dam) it's an Act of God

>>16452606
nice corpo shill you got there
it would be a shame if something were to happen to it

>>16452607
>Why would an entity not own a resource it processed
Hmm?
Who is responsible for providing the colony with oxygen if not the colonists?

Who would be charging them to breathe again?
Oh right, the colonists themselves.

tfwyhnf

Anonymous No. 16452619

I think it will be free or baked into prices in all communal places, like how target doesn't charge you for the fact the store is air conditioned, but if you want to run your AC at home it's going to raise your power bill.

Anonymous No. 16452621

>>16452616
I mean if it's a SpaceX base sure, but we're talking about the hypothetical self sustainable city of a million people
>>16451593
Lol even their pre-assembly line expendable prototypes are only a $100m. 17 flights would be $1.7b which is still competitive with SLS. Even worst case everything he has nothing

Anonymous No. 16452622

>>16451967
>direct democracy
Trying to stop corporations from lobbying representatives to control the government is horribly antisemitic.

Anonymous No. 16452623

mars colonies are gonna operate the same way ships or submarines do
worry about government when they're big enough to warrant such things.

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Anonymous No. 16452626

>>16452619
>all communal places
but anon, that'll be everywhere

Anonymous No. 16452627

Nobody has told me so far how a Raptor is suppose to remain "healthy" for 8 months in deep space and fire reliably at the most critical point in the mission (landing burn to Mars surface) (Either it fires perfectly or Mars has a new crater on its surface)

Anonymous No. 16452628

>>16452618
>Who is responsible for providing the country with water if not the citizens?
>Who would be charging them to drink again?
>Oh right, the citizens themselves.
You fundamentally do not understand what an economy even is

Anonymous No. 16452629

>>16452627
What would happen to it? It's space

Anonymous No. 16452632

>>16452618
dig a well on your property. get water from the stream. you're only paying to have treated water pumped into and out of your house.
when your mars house has an electrolizer box to make it's own air and a field of solar panels to power it, you won't need to pay the air man. until then it's cough up the money for services provided or suffocate.

Anonymous No. 16452638

>>16452632
Yeah. First priority for local production will be life support parts. They'll be all over the place

Anonymous No. 16452644

What if Trump actually wins. Will have some type of 'carte blanche' regarding SpaceX ? And the ministry of efficiency, wtf is that ?

Anonymous No. 16452645

>>16452644
*Will *Elon* have some ...*

Anonymous No. 16452647

>>16452628
Who do you think is producing oxygen on Mars?
Earthers?
You're a hypocrite and will never understand exoeconomics.

>>16452632
>dig a well on your property
>get water from the stream
and if you don't own property
what then
to die, if your ilk would have it

just because a river runs past your property doesn't mean you own the river or can do whatever you like with the section that you claim
there are people down stream who are affected by your pollution and dumping activities who have as much stake in the river that you do, if not more

>mars house has an electrolizer box to make it's own air and a field of solar panels to power it
oh
and I assume you must have transported installed those solar panels yourself
won't share or put in with anyone else in the colony because you're so very independent

>you won't need to pay the air man
suppose your box fails
do you think the colony isn't going to help supply you
think about this for more than a minute

>cough up the money for services provided or suffocate
what kind of money do you suppose you'll use on Mars
USD
YEN

or maybe instead, the services you provide for the colony will be returned *in kind*

Anonymous No. 16452648

>>16452644
do you even know what a "carte blanche" even is
it's nothing without the authority of the crown or the ecclesiarchy

Anonymous No. 16452650

>>16452627
Space radiation keeps it well

Anonymous No. 16452652

>>16452578
Aaaaaand the jannies nuke it.

Anonymous No. 16452653

Leftist now wants a barter economy

Anonymous No. 16452654

>>16452647
Why do you keep bringing up Earth? No one is talking about Earth. A Martian that uses his wages to purchase or manufacture more and more life support until he maintains an oxygen/nitrogen producing array that he can sell the output of to the local government should be able to do that. Earth isn't involved

Anonymous No. 16452655

>>16452652
Too many wrong opinions were being posted.

Anonymous No. 16452657

>>16452647
>what kind of money do you suppose you'll use on Mars
USD
>the services you provide for the colony will be returned *in kind*
Yeah after I use the wages from those devices to purchase different services

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>>16450782

Anonymous No. 16452659

>>16451245
sextant fondling general

Anonymous No. 16452660

>>16452654
>Martian that uses his wages
Martian colonists should be well compensated for their efforts.

>manufacture more and more life support
purchase has nothing to do with the operation of life support systems
manufacturing does
this effort should be made with the cooperation of the Supreme Council and the full resources of the colony as a whole

>he can sell the output of to the local government
He is already getting paid, isn't he?
His service to the colony is expected, because he has already been compensated and services from the colony rendered.

>Earth isn't involved
it is though

Anonymous No. 16452661

>>16451955
>it has superior payload to the version of starship that's never going to fly payloads

Not to mention that the Starship payload figure anon is using is for a fully reusable Starship config.

Anonymous No. 16452664

>>16452657
>purchase different services
services don't need to be purchased
that's part of the compensation package
your own service to a particular section is obligated under the terms of the Martian constitution

Anonymous No. 16452670

>>16452588
yes

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16452671

test

Anonymous No. 16452672

>>16452588
yeah
why else would /sfg/ cover the robotaxi event and the town halls?

Anonymous No. 16452677

I'm going to move to Mars and be a NEET
free oxygen will be mine

Anonymous No. 16452678

>actual communist on /sfg/
what did we do to deserve this

Anonymous No. 16452680

>>16452677
NOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT!!! MY (not authoritarian) COUNCIL WILL KILL YOU!!!

Anonymous No. 16452683

mars will be a neo feudal system just like my sci fi novels or I'm not going

Anonymous No. 16452686

>>16452644
Trump appointees in the FAA and every other relevant regulatory agency will fast-track Spacex approvals in order to avoid Trump's ire, and Elon's restructuring of those agencies via the efficiency committee will probably make that fast-tracking even faster.

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Anonymous No. 16452692

>>16452686
Imagine monthly Starship test flights all summer in 2025.

Anonymous No. 16452695

>>16452686
There's already GAO and bipartisan support in congress to restructure things to get the FAA out of the way, it's the whitehouse being useless and a lame duck presidency that has held it up. I'm skeptical that Elon's ideas will be able to overcome the decades of inertia built up in DC but things should still improve nonetheless.

Anonymous No. 16452701

>>16452695
All the regulatory agencies are technically executive branch. Elon could do some serious damage if Trump felt like signing off on it

Anonymous No. 16452702

>>16452678
shill detected

>>16452683
you can swear fealty to me personally
then I will tell you to gather together a free company to hostile takeover teh planet

Anonymous No. 16452705

>>16452627
It's called "engineering", "testing" and "redundancy"

Anonymous No. 16452708

the biggest takeaway from this thread is that

Elon Musk fundamentally does not understand The Lord of the Rings because it is too long for him to read

Anonymous No. 16452710

>>16451969
I was saying this one here a couple weeks ago, he needs to by some land near the Golden Gate bridge and do a groundbreaking ceremony where he announces he's building Starfleet Headquarters and he would instantly have all the Trekkies pledging their undying loyalty to him.

Anonymous No. 16452711

>>16452708
he just needs to watch the ralph bakshi film adaptation

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Anonymous No. 16452713

>>16452708
based
tolkien is rough reading to some

Anonymous No. 16452716

Someone push us to page 10 its like a few OPs away. And no I wont do it myself I swore off baking

Anonymous No. 16452717

STAGING
>>16452715
>>16452715
>>16452715
>>16452715
>>16452715

Anonymous No. 16452718

>>16452717
Page 10 achieved nvm

Anonymous No. 16452719

>>16452717
God damn it

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Anonymous No. 16452724

https://x.com/peterrhague/status/1850576687483719806

Anonymous No. 16452729

>>16452075
>Pardon me, but what does God need with a Starship?

Anonymous No. 16452737

>>16452729
>what does god need with a printing press? better stop printing bibles.

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Anonymous No. 16452793

>>16452737
>t.never watched Star Trek V
zoom zoom

Anonymous No. 16452794

>>16452793
more SOVL in that one than all the other movies combined

Anonymous No. 16452803

>>16452794
I remember watching it in its original run and noticing freaking WHEEL RUTS on the god planet because the location team wasn't paying attention.
You can't see it on a VHS pan-n-scan, but you can see it on the DVD.
>What does god need with a four by four?

Anonymous No. 16452814

>>16451543
Explain the significance of fungal muffins immediately

Anonymous No. 16452823

>>16452585
>If they are 6 hours away from me it is a battle of deltaV because I am going to try to outspend them before they reach their kill zone, if they are 6 seconds away the best I can do is try to wiggle a lot and hope
In both scenarios survivng is a matter of your delta v vs the drone. If you have less delta v than the drone then the only variable is how long it takes you to be destroyed. Being high or deep in the suns gravity well is not really about time to intercept and more about the fact that something intercepting you will have spent a lot of delta v to get to you.
At the ranges and velocities of space combat you would want to intercept a drone with a drone. Bullets are useless. It's like trying to shoot a jet down with a rifle but at dozens of times the relative velocity and thousands of times the range. Dumb munitions will be tools of earther primitives

Anonymous No. 16452885

>>16452692
Max 6 per year from Boca Chica -- launches, that is. I wonder if they'll try P2P demos from Florida

Anonymous No. 16452900

>>16451790
Elon is only the richest man in the world because of those under-the-table jobs he did in school

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>>16452803
Those wheel ruts are how Kirk realized that he wasn't dealing with the real God

Anonymous No. 16452926

>>16452627
if anything, leaving it stored on earth with an atmosphere containing oxygen and water is more dangerous to long term maintenance compared to space

Anonymous No. 16452961

>>16452926
this issue is thermal flux. if the raptor is on the surface of the moon for a month getting slowly roasted on one side and frozen on the other, this could cause a problem (yes i know the sun does rotate from your perspective onthe moon, but there is no atmosphere to conduct heat away)

Anonymous No. 16452963

>>16451738
bargain bin cam girls are romania's sole commercializable natural resource
the availability of even cheaper e-pussy from south america destroyed their country

Anonymous No. 16452969

>>16451839
>starships to mars in a few months
何thefuck

Anonymous No. 16452979

>>16451876
She's the Kavanaugh accuser's niece
Multigenerational scum

Anonymous No. 16452982

>>16451967
Gigabased

Anonymous No. 16452986

>>16451980
No, the judicial system is primarily about correcting harms that have already occurred. An ideal society, and especially one with minimal laws, must focus on prevention. The current civil legal system enriches only lawyers and ghetto lottery winners. The current criminal justice system punishes the innocent and the guilty in almost equal measure, and doesn't rehabilitate criminals.

Anonymous No. 16452991

>>16452237
>thinks the best people are elected in representative democracy
nigga are you retarded?

Anonymous No. 16452992

>>16451896
>The MESSENGER spacecraft was a space probe mission to the planet Mercury (2011–2015[27]). This was the first deep-space mission to use a phased-array antenna for communications.
I don't get what the fuck ooh and aaahing is all about to be honest.

Anonymous No. 16452998

>>16452375
You own a strip club?!

Anonymous No. 16452999

>>16451870
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MESSENGER
Launched in 2004, to fucking Mercury with a phased array antenna.

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Anonymous No. 16453010

>>16452814
uh its a funni joke about how there's fungus on mars or something and also something about spiders i guess

Anonymous No. 16453032

>>16452961
so just shade it with some mylar tents
ooooh so difficult

Anonymous No. 16453060

>>16452503
>you realize you are actively advocating for charging people to breathe and hydrate
>that's not a free market, that's the people who control the atmosphere and their Earth handlers dictating what you do and are allowed to say
>people need to provide something in exchange for the work of others rather than forcing them to do it for no compensation? how horrible, this is absolutely dystopian

Anonymous No. 16453106

>>16451872
lol
perhaps they never heard of communications satellites
or Starlink for that matter
>>16451870
starlink is phased array antennas

Anonymous No. 16453109

here let me respond to a post eight hours later with retarded greentext while there's a new thread
oh you don't want to provide oxygen for the colony unless we suck your dick or give you Earth funbucks

that's okay, I'll just do that job for you instead because I'm not a garbage person
sorry not sorry, no free air for you personally though corpo shill
suck my dick

Anonymous No. 16453115

eww, you want me to serve other colonists without direct financial compensation
and all I get in return is their services
why would I want to do that

give me slips of paper backed with debt instead
that's how you create oxygen
what's energy

>richfags literally cannot even concieve of doing anything for reasons that don't involve fiat currency

Anonymous No. 16453120

>>16453106
and phased array antennas are just old military tech finally reaching a consumer friendly price point.

Anonymous No. 16453400

>>16453109
>>16453115
I love encountering genuine autists on this site.