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๐Ÿงต /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16452715

mini tiles - edition

previous >>16450266

Anonymous No. 16452721

I love Big Black Cohete

Anonymous No. 16452723

no communism talk in this one please

Anonymous No. 16452725

Guys guys, Starbase commune(ity).

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Anonymous No. 16452733

>>16452732
because who needs payloads, right?

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Anonymous No. 16452735

https://x.com/michaelsrockets/status/1850411369096429825
>They indeed are starlink

Anonymous No. 16452736

>>16452735
why did people think they weren't?

Anonymous No. 16452739

>>16452735
>tiled
KINO

Anonymous No. 16452740

>>16452735
heat tile Starlink would be a flex to have on a house

Anonymous No. 16452741

an interesting thing about human shit is it can be used both for methane and as fertilizer for plants that produce oxygen

Anonymous No. 16452743

>>16452740
they should sell special edition tiled panels

Anonymous No. 16452746

>>16452741
Not at scale. Methane and air will be processed by machines.
Feces will be strewn around the Martian surface to make sure it's contaminated

Anonymous No. 16452751

>based Bezos liquidates Blue Origin and gives everything to SpaceX because he can see that SpaceX is more effective than Blue Origin ever will be
realistically speaking, would this even accelerate SpaceX's development? Are they even bottlenecked by money?

Anonymous No. 16452752

childhood is wanting to colonize mars because it's le ebin red planet
adulthood is realizing venus is infinitely more viable

Anonymous No. 16452753

>>16452733
Well, the first step in their goal is propellant transfer/depot so technically the tanks are the payload.

Anonymous No. 16452755

>>16452751
no and no

Anonymous No. 16452756

>>16452751
no. the bottleneck right now is regulatory interference. IF that gets cleared up under drumpf so that the future agency that handles spaceflight just basically gives them the go to launch whenever they want, then it will become production speed and number of launch sites that is the limiter. it will never be money, due to musk's warchest and the moneyprinter that is starlink

Anonymous No. 16452758

>>16452733
Not all starships have to be the same, anon. Some will be used as tankers, others will be optimized for payloads.

Anonymous No. 16452759

>>16452752
oneill cylinders make more sense than venus colonies.

Anonymous No. 16452760

>>16452751
onboarding that many engineers would slow SpaceX down, I think
the threat of culture dilution is real

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Anonymous No. 16452762

Friendship ended with Kyplanet, now Dreksler Astral is my best friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVyZrOf5KZc

Anonymous No. 16452763

>>16452751
The only things worth keeping from blue origin would arguably be the results of their materials research.
Like their "Super light completely re-usable fiber heat shield" but even then I don't think that has much application.
Their rocket is a rube goldberg device compared to SpaceX's rockets. I don't know about their other blue lagoon shit and I don't care either.

Anonymous No. 16452766

>>16452763
>Their rocket is a rube goldberg device compared to SpaceX's rockets
elaborate. NG seems like a pretty reasonable design. clever mix of modern ideas with oldspace ballast to keep if from being too good.

Anonymous No. 16452770

>>16452715
Are any old tiles for sale as collectors item? Bonus if they touched the vacuum of space

Anonymous No. 16452772

>>16452770
if you want one that went to space you're going to have to fish it out of the indian ocean yourself.

Anonymous No. 16452773

>>16452770
>touched the vacuum of space
every single one of those are at the bottom of the indian ocean

Anonymous No. 16452775

>>16452773
the flight 2 ones are in the gulf

Anonymous No. 16452776

>>16452773
>implying they haven't been scooped up by submarines

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Anonymous No. 16452778

>le rube goldberg device

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>>16452766

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>>16452772
imagine wanting to touch anything that was in the indian ocean

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Anonymous No. 16452788

>>16452784
Please, this is the science board

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>>16452788
shoop'd

Anonymous No. 16452792

>>16452772
I'm sure some Chinese fishermen could hook me up

Anonymous No. 16452795

>>16452752
tell me where is the hydrogen in venus

Anonymous No. 16452799

>>16452740
heat tile roof would be good to have so the blue space lasers don't Hawaii your house

Anonymous No. 16452801

>>16452799
wut

Anonymous No. 16452805

>>16452746
enormous, hermetically sealed shit chambers will float around in space fermenting at low g and you will like it

Anonymous No. 16452808

>>16452799
yeah or you could just use blue shingles

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>>16452805
They'll let anyone become an astronaut

Anonymous No. 16452812

cows in space

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Anonymous No. 16452815

Europa Clipper is gone by
NASA Artemis II in development
Also speaking of Blue Origin and SpaceX. What about Virgin Galactic

Anonymous No. 16452816

>>16452812
your mom will never be an astronaut

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Anonymous No. 16452819

>>16452732
someone tried to do estimate

Anonymous No. 16452821

>>16452812
Imagine the poor guy that needs to take the starship with the cow. Theoretically you just need one cow and 10,000 frozen eggs, but that's still a whole cow. Imagine being stuck in a steel tube with a shit production machine. That guy better get a free ticket, and like 1% off every beef sale

Anonymous No. 16452825

>>16452819
60% of a cubic kilometer is still nothing to sneeze at.

Anonymous No. 16452829

>>16452819
its over. what the hell are they going to store in here? vast haven 1 will have to be put in new glenn instead kek.

Anonymous No. 16452830

>>16452829
>what the hell are they going to store in here?
Uh, nothing. First starships are for depot running.

Anonymous No. 16452831

>>16452788
>literal tsunami of shit

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16452832

>>16452751
Adding a bunch of BO diversity retards to SpaceX would only decrease SpaceX's productivity and capability

Anonymous No. 16452834

>starship will OBLITERATE every oldspace with its 1km^3 capacity
>starship will DESTROY the competition with its 0.8km^3 capacity
>starship is nothing to sneeze at with it's 0.6km^3 capacity
----You Are Here----
>starship is very good at what it does with its 0.4km^3 capacity
>s-starship is uhhh... with it's 0.01km^3 capacity
>spesx is only temporarily in a deficit, tthey're about to make a comeback I swear!
>elon was a hack anyway, I always loved BO

Anonymous No. 16452837

>>16452821
the cows could be trained to operate systems
they produce carbon and methane
cows make shit plants crave
plants use carbon to create oxygen
cows eat plants

methane and oxygen make rocket fuel
???

Anonymous No. 16452840

sigh, 50 ton starship is going to be a reality. not even 100 tons.

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Anonymous No. 16452842

>>16452834
Only good post ever made on /sfg/

Anonymous No. 16452847

time for wider starship

Anonymous No. 16452848

someone put a milker in the centrifuge

a cow jumped over the moon

Anonymous No. 16452850

>>16452715
I missed out teenage love.

Anonymous No. 16452854

>>16452850
at least you won't miss the next launch

Anonymous No. 16452859

>>16452848
Elon should fly a cow over the moon as a joke, but animal rights groups would storm starbase and destroy the ship if he tried

Anonymous No. 16452865

>>16452751
?

Anonymous No. 16452868

>>16452732
>>16452819
JUST

Anonymous No. 16452876

>>16452865
Least confused /sfg/ poster.

Anonymous No. 16452877

>>16452751
>>16452763
BO material research and ISRU research is some serious stuff. Oldspace solved these things decades ago but werent allowed to use them due to politics. BO literally hired those same boomers who originally solved the problems, so they clearly took mountains of trade secrets with them. The best and msot valuable thing about BO is their treasure trove of patents.

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Anonymous No. 16452880

>>16452726
>>16452728
>The USA has a $35.3 trillion national debt
Is space mining the only way to fix the American economy? Because deep sea mining will fuck up the planet.

Anonymous No. 16452881

>>16452880
Deep sea mining *shouldn't* affect the planet at all if it's done properly, but it is sad to think about pristine (near sterile) environments being disturbed.
But never underestimate the ability of corporate cucks and their government handlers to increase the environmental impact of profit 1000 fold.

Anonymous No. 16452887

>>16452780
fucking cool. this stuff is so much better than starblunder by felon musk.

Anonymous No. 16452888

>>16452859
If he could prove a cow can orbit the moon and return safely to land, maybe that would prove a methane capture unit is a good idea for more than just landfills.

The difficulty is in securing the cow and in providing food, water, maybe a conveyer belt system and work robot to provide emotional support and cleanup duties. I hear they can lift somewhere around 20 kg, IIRC.

Anonymous No. 16452897

https://x.com/Space_Time3/status/1850650128123629726

>Booster 12 is being transferred onto a transport stand inside Mega Bay 1

Booster 12 being reused would be a thing.

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Anonymous No. 16452899

>>16452898
gee bee two are

Anonymous No. 16452901

>>16452898
this is absolutely cringe and childish

Anonymous No. 16452903

>>16452901
Its literally indistinguishable from reality.

Anonymous No. 16452904

>>16452903
Sad state of reality, tbqh.

Anonymous No. 16452913

enteric fermentation produces methane and carbon dioxide
plants produce oxygen from carbon dioxide
capture the methane and oxygen to make rocket fuel

>???
profit

Anonymous No. 16452916

>>16452880
The national debt isn't what your think it is and space mining is retarded

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Anonymous No. 16452917

We need to seed microbes and plants on Mars now.

Anonymous No. 16452918

Elon is Dark Gothic MAGA now

Anonymous No. 16452919

shut the fuck up.

Anonymous No. 16452920

no fuck you

Anonymous No. 16452921

>>16452913
It would take 144 acres of aspen and 3,520,000 cows one year to produce the propellant required for one starship stack.

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Anonymous No. 16452922

>>16452918
Always was

Anonymous No. 16452923

>>16452922
lol, fukken saved

Anonymous No. 16452924

Melania has such a cute commie accent

Anonymous No. 16452927

>>16452880
That should be a great incentive to win the space race because if they go with deep sea mining, which they absolutely shouldnโ€™t, other countries will also have access to the ocean.

Anonymous No. 16452931

>>16452922
Libelon Erjacket??

Anonymous No. 16452935

>>16452913
>he didn't do the math

Anonymous No. 16452937

i peed in a cup and drank it. guys, it's actually not bad

Anonymous No. 16452940

>>16452452
>>16452441

We need views exactly like this for every single moon and dwarf planet in the solar system

Anonymous No. 16452945

>>16452921
okay, we'll make that happen

besides, fermentation happens faster and more efficiently in zero gravity

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Anonymous No. 16452947

>>16452945
>Mars covered by millions of cows
Sounds dope

Anonymous No. 16452948

>>16452940
>dwarf planet
*planet of short stature

Anonymous No. 16452949

>>16452945
no we won't
we'll use machines

Anonymous No. 16452953

https://x.com/america/status/1850676323108405700

Anonymous No. 16452954

Jupiter is

Anonymous No. 16452957

>>16452881
>done properly
What does that even mean? Mining is a heavily cost-benefit driven industry, right now that means trawling the seabed for nodes. Having ROV's handpicking nodules into a basket isn't cost effective.
>Near sterile
There's actually a bunch of life on these nodules that takes decades to grow back not to mention the effect that removing those metals might have on dark oxygen production.

Anonymous No. 16452959

>>16452953
Good God man it's a miracle he hasn't been shot yet. He really needs to stop putting himself out there like that

Anonymous No. 16452960

>>16452881
There is no proper way to do it, deep sea life depends directly on those nodules to exist.

Anonymous No. 16452967

wait who did trump just say he had a secret with and he'll say when the election is over? Was it elon?

Anonymous No. 16452968

>>16452957
When I say near sterile yeah, there's bacteria and it'll take thousands of years for the bacteria's ecosystem to recover.
We still don't know what impact dark oxygen has on the wider ecosystem. Don't get me wrong, I'm on the side of limiting seafloor mining until we know what the fuck is going on.
>>16452960
Yeah, and human life and advancement depends on minerals. Unfortunately deep sea mining has already established a new cartel and the science of it all is obfuscated.

Anonymous No. 16452970

>>16452967
I think he was talking about a congressman, he was talking about how he thinks he (reps) will win the house. dont know what it is, internal polls probably.

Anonymous No. 16452972

>>16452970
its over

Anonymous No. 16452974

>>16452972
Kamalabros...

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Anonymous No. 16452976

>One first stage imploded during transport due to pressure mis-management
>Another first stage exploded around the same time during nominal pressure testing (not over-pressure), damaging the high bay.
>Only first stage left is the one that was supposed to launch Blue Ring

New Glenn isn't launching before the end of 2025.

Anonymous No. 16452978

>>16452976
Sorry, all second stages.

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>>16452967
Musk had SpaceX blow up Intelsat because Intelsat was the means by which overseas intelligence agencies (Mossad & their EU bitches) were controlling the Dominion voting machines

Anonymous No. 16452981

>>16452959
>BREAKING: Authorities raid the residence of "The ULA Sniper". Elon still in critical condition

Anonymous No. 16452985

>>16452976
>that image
holy shit kek.
For a company so secretive thats a SpaceX level RUD. sad how this is happening after 15 years of development

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Anonymous No. 16452988

>>16452985
Here's another for you.

Anonymous No. 16452990

>>16452976
makes me like the program more, they can't top starship falling over in the highbay though

Anonymous No. 16452997

>>16452847
this, increment up to 9.5m and start the development process over

Anonymous No. 16453000

Bros I'm telling you this "all in" thing from Elon is a nail biter, and even if you wish he didn't do it, you're going to miss these days. You're going to be chasing this high again I fucking promise. When it's been done with for years and we're on the moon, you're going to miss the danger, the anxiety sex, the town halls. You're gonna think, man, elon still shitposts on mark cuban but it just doesn't hit the same. You're gonna be begging him to pull some crazy shit again.

Anonymous No. 16453003

>>16452953
Based beyond belief

Anonymous No. 16453005

>>16452953
he seems to be enjoying talking to public too much, i hope he doesnt become addicted to doing political rallies.

Anonymous No. 16453007

>>16452756
>buys twitter to gain public influence
>backs Trump to gain political influence
If the end result is deregulation that allows SpaceX to speed up 10x then Musk will become a trillionaire in the next 20-30 years

Anonymous No. 16453008

>>16453007
it's nice to see Bezos standing down for once too. He stands to gain as well from the death of the FAA

Anonymous No. 16453012

>>16453000
Wasted trips.

Anonymous No. 16453013

>>16452898
lmao this pissed off spitter

Anonymous No. 16453015

>>16453000
Honestly I wish he didn't do it.
I feel some happiness seeing someone putting themselves out there for something he thinks is extremely important (even for selfish reasons) but this is a risk that can't be sweep under with money.

He could have kept quiet and let more reasonable people speak for SpaceX's accomplishments and merits to the reasonable people that has regulatory control. Hopefully expelling the crazies.
SpaceX can also survive without the government's help, even if justifiably angry about other companies basically stealing billions.

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Anonymous No. 16453017

Say something nice about it.

Anonymous No. 16453018

>>16453000
No I'm not.

Anonymous No. 16453019

>>16453015
Yeah I'm not keen on the idea of him being killed off either but he's also gonna need a hell of a lot more government co-operation to actually settle mars.

Anonymous No. 16453021

>>16453000
He sees the way the wind is blowing.

Anonymous No. 16453022

>>16453017
Its an image

Anonymous No. 16453023

>>16453000
Replace every instance of "you're" in that post with "I'm" and then its correct.

Anonymous No. 16453026

>>16453000
>"all in" thing from Elon is nail biter
Like Falcon 1
Like Falcon 9
Like Cargo Dragon
Like F9 landing
Like Crew Dragon
Like Falcon Heavy
Like Starship launch
Like Starship bellyflop
Like Starship landing
Like Starship Launch System launch
Like Starship reentry heatshield survival
Like Starship controlled reentry
Like Superheavy controlled simulated landing
Like Superheavy controlled catch

Anonymous No. 16453027

>>16453017
sad that shuttle centaur didnt happen. shuttle was/is iconic.

Anonymous No. 16453030

>>16453017
>imagine having to launch 6 astronauts just to put up an unmanned interplanetary probe

Anonymous No. 16453033

>>16453000
Nah, he literally can't live any other way and doesn't know what to do with himself when things are normal and calm. His psycho dad and growing up in south africa fried his amygdala when he was young.

Anonymous No. 16453034

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1850691657303519451

BASED. Trump win would 100% push increase funding towards NASA and explosive growth of SpaceX is in order sparking the next space industry revolution

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Anonymous No. 16453037

>>16452887
>this is what passes for bait on here now

Anonymous No. 16453040

>>>/wsg/5718498

Anonymous No. 16453041

>>16452917
all you need to do is build a chamber on Earth that recreates the Mars surface environment and then just keep dumping life into it until something sticks, then take that and transport it to Mars and watch the planet come alive

Anonymous No. 16453042

>>16453040
i dont think i could cringe any harder

Anonymous No. 16453043

>>16452980
PATRIOTS ARE BACK IN CONTROL, BOYS

Anonymous No. 16453044

>>16453041
>Dump life into it
>The only things that stick are mosquitoes
>2100, mars' biomass is entirely mosquitoes. Mosquito storms roll around the planet periodically, draining the life from any martians unable to return to their habitats in time.

Anonymous No. 16453047

>>16453034
Trump should mention that supporting the spaceflight industry would create a lot of jobs, that angle would fare well with the votes I'd reckon.

Anonymous No. 16453050

>>16453012
>>16453015
>>16453018
>>16453023
>>16453034
When was it, it could've been a year or two ago, I asked /sfg/ who wanted to personally go to space, the moon, mars, wherever. I was expecting to hear from mostly people who despite loving space, but were afraid to go. To my surprise, the replies were unanimously affirmation. They seemed equally shocked that I would suggest someone here might not want to go to space.

So I ponder this, were the people who weren't afraid of the violence, the speed, the black abyss outside that will boil the saliva on your tongue and lights out - are they telling me they can't ride a predicted landslide election?

Funny because elon is afraid to go to space but he knows this election is an easy lay up

Anonymous No. 16453052

>>16453044
yeah well there's always a worst case scenario

Anonymous No. 16453053

>>16453050
>elon is afraid to go to space
Headcanon. Musk is just not interested in LEO or even the moon, except as money making. His goal is 100% Mars, the rest are just side quests that have little to no real interest other than to support Mars

Anonymous No. 16453056

>>16453040
wow takes me back 8 years
>>16453042
seriously why the attack on titan theme

Anonymous No. 16453057

>>16453050
>elon is afraid to go to space
Elon doesn't want to die prematurely and knows that spaceflight will be pretty risky for a while. He wants to die on Mars but won't go until the momentum of the colony effort can carry it past his death.

Anonymous No. 16453058

>>16452976
source?

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Anonymous No. 16453063

>>16453040
it sure is remarkable that the owner of one of the most influential media platforms on the planet is forcing spaceflight to the forefront in a presidential campaign. with that said, i still want everyone involved in posting political content to feel bad for shitting up /sfg/.

Anonymous No. 16453064

>>16453044
We've been over this >>16208805
Venus is for mosquitos

Anonymous No. 16453065

>>16453057
>Elon doesn't want to die prematurely

I understand, no one here fears for the outcome of the election, they just don't want spaceflight to die prematurely.

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Anonymous No. 16453067

>>16453065
>no one here fears for the outcome of the election, they just don't want spaceflight to die prematurely
These are more or less the same thing in this instance

Anonymous No. 16453068

>>16452736
people were hoping that they were the catching arms

Anonymous No. 16453070

>>16453067
That's the satirical part

Anonymous No. 16453071

>>16452880
i really hate the asteroid mining meme. we're at least decades away from it, probably a century even.

Anonymous No. 16453073

>>16453034
kek, even lil X was at the rally. Based.

Anonymous No. 16453074

>>16453062
Saved. I wonder how much visibility one would have on Venus on average, given those thick clouds and the intense pressure.

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Anonymous No. 16453075

Earth bros... I thought we were "the blue planet"?? why are we getting water mogged by fucking moons of all things...

Anonymous No. 16453076

>>16453074
http://mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm

Anonymous No. 16453077

>>16453070
Are you ESL, retarded, or a chatbot?

Anonymous No. 16453078

>>16453075
>NASA: *yawn*

Anonymous No. 16453079

>>16453075
the real question is how we got to be the blue planet when neptune exists.

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Anonymous No. 16453081

>>16453077
Are you mad?

Anonymous No. 16453082

>>16453075
Only oceans with whales in them matter.

Anonymous No. 16453083

>>16453076
What do you think are the odds of Venera-D being successful? I unironically give it a 99% of failure, after all it's Russia who we are talking about. Hell, 75% it doesn't make it out of Earth's atmosphere during launch. I reckon they literally only had 1 single successful mission beyond GEO in their entire history, or 1 and 1/2 if you count ExoMars? 50/50 anon, abstain from replying.

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>>16453082
So only your mom's bathtub matters?

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>>16453085
No

Anonymous No. 16453088

>>16453082
send whales to callisto, got it.

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>>16453083
>Hell, 75% it doesn't make it out of Earth's atmosphere during launch.
that's the most frightening possibility

Anonymous No. 16453093

>>16453083
Not good, 45 years is basically starting over from scratch and if the ISS is any indication notes and lessons learned weren't even written down.

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Anonymous No. 16453094

>>16453076
>venus gets more dehydrated the deeper into it you get

Anonymous No. 16453097

>>16453094
Retard here, when did you learn that it never technically rains on Venus's surface, since all those raindrops actually evaporate way before ever hitting the ground? For me, it was some weeks ago :(

Anonymous No. 16453098

whoever wins the presidency needs to improve the space force because it's still a joke

Anonymous No. 16453100

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16453101

>>16453094
>>16453097
It's a supercritical fluid at that density anyhow

Anonymous No. 16453103

>>16453071
Except that in China and India they donโ€™t really overinflate the cost of space exploration, so they are more likely to get there first if the USA doesnโ€™t do anything.

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Anonymous No. 16453104

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Anonymous No. 16453108

i think flight 6 should be delayed so i can make it in december on holiday.

Anonymous No. 16453112

>>16453034
>starship is now right wing coded
its over for liberal/leftist spacebros...

Anonymous No. 16453113

Just in case anyone was wondering the EDS posters on /g/ have outed themselves. It's who you thought it was, you don't have to look.

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Anonymous No. 16453114

>>16453112
Spaceflight has always been right wing coded

Anonymous No. 16453116

>>16453112
I wonder how many people at SpaceX now hate Elon because of his political stance. There must be so many people who idolised him but are now suffering major cognitive dissonance.

Anonymous No. 16453117

>>16453116
Survival of humanity is always important

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Anonymous No. 16453118

>>16453116
what is she thinking rn?

Anonymous No. 16453122

>muh mars landing
Amateurs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNOwPOwJr04

Anonymous No. 16453124

>>16453116
Suburban mom that works at spacex here. We converted the break room into a crying room. I have a "we believe" ... "science is real" sign in my yard, it wasn't supposed to be us.

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Anonymous No. 16453126

spacex should release their starlink traffic control algorithm or something. the one that avoids collisions with other objects in space. it can become the standard like tesla's supercharger network.

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Anonymous No. 16453127

>>16453122
Yoink

Anonymous No. 16453129

>>16453126
NORAD does that also
https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/

Anonymous No. 16453130

>>16453058
https://youtu.be/616kKbZM1PM

Anonymous No. 16453131

>>16453126
shouldn't they also give away Starship technology so that everyone else can also have reusable Starship as well?

Anonymous No. 16453132

>>16453118
>she/her
kek, ohnono!
I bet she would still open her legs for Elon in a heartbeat though

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Anonymous No. 16453134

would it make sense for launchers like rocket lab to open up a launch management business kind of thing, where they get your payload on their rocket or some else's if electron isnt available for whatever reason. you just hand over the satellite and the fee and rocket lab handles the rest.

Anonymous No. 16453137

>>16453134
rocketlab sats launch on falcon all the time if that's what you're asking.
they even go one step further and build the satellite for you. just tell them what you want and hand them a lot of money.

Anonymous No. 16453138

FUCKING LAVNCH ELAN BASTARD
STOP POSTING ON TWITTER YOU FUCKING RETARD

Anonymous No. 16453140

>>16453138
its X the everything app now chuddie

Anonymous No. 16453142

>>16452752
Based. But benis needs sunshades first

Anonymous No. 16453143

>>16453034
>I saw this rocket coming down and I thought "Oh! It's gonna crash into the gantry, oh no!"
He is /sfg/.

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Anonymous No. 16453144

I'd like to see someone try this hang glider landing with modern robotics

Anonymous No. 16453145

>>16453116
Most if any are at Hawthorne where they don't have to interact with him. All the chuds are at Starbase.

Anonymous No. 16453146

>>16452751
That's not how it works ELAN is a polarizing figure. I bet the BO woketards would just resign

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Anonymous No. 16453147

>>16453122
I fuckin' love that special

Anonymous No. 16453150

>>16453145
I hope insprucker is still a chud. I haven't seen him on the website for ages: (

Anonymous No. 16453151

>>16453137
hmm i never knew rocket lab was doing that

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Anonymous No. 16453152

>>16453151
for example, varda's drug lab satellite winnebago 1 was built (partially? entirely?) by rocketlab. but launched on a spacex transporter mission. here's some other spacecraft they build, with another varda capsule on the right.

Anonymous No. 16453155

>>16453113
>/g/ still believes musk personally promised all of us a manned trip to mars by 2020/22
why can't they just go and look up the original dates. is it really that difficult to read more than 2 lines from a wiki article?

Anonymous No. 16453157

>>16453104
no one's gonna follow up on where this is from?

Anonymous No. 16453159

>>16453157
I dind't see a spacex or musk post on x about it and anon didn't provide a source so I just assumed it was from one of the early hops and anon was pulling my leg

Anonymous No. 16453160

>>16453157
ksp

Anonymous No. 16453161

>>16453113
>It's who you thought it was
Rust trannys?

Anonymous No. 16453167

>>16453073
Who the fuck is lil X?

Anonymous No. 16453168

>>16452898
Based

Anonymous No. 16453169

>>16453167
musk spawn

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Anonymous No. 16453174

It's going to be a landslide

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Anonymous No. 16453182

>>16453174
A landslide of American boots sent to Iran for Israel.

Still not voting.

Anonymous No. 16453184

>>16453182
>>16453174
>>>/pol/

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Anonymous No. 16453186

booster 12 is on the move, out of the megabay

Anonymous No. 16453188

>>16453174
https://x.com/pmarca/status/1850745182255456437

Anonymous No. 16453190

>>16453174
Dark. Gothic. MAGA.
Elon always wins in the end. Shouldn't have tried to stop him, Biden.

Anonymous No. 16453193

God I cant wait for this election to be over.

Anonymous No. 16453194

>>16453193
Mars beckons

Anonymous No. 16453197

Can Elon get things progressed far enough in 4 years of having all these fuckwits off his back that when the next round of fuckwits get voted in, it's all too far gone for them to stop?

Anonymous No. 16453202

>>16453197
Elon and crew are competant enough to make sweeping changes within the bounds of the constitution. Any administration following would likely not be competant enough to reverse all of it

Anonymous No. 16453209

>>16453197
Honestly I think if Elon gets his bureaucratic guillotine and survives 4 years, the benefits to every day life will be so evident that you'd have to boil the crabs all over again.

Anonymous No. 16453210

>>16453202
He better get the world's most unreal security detail using schizo black project tech if he tries this DOGE thing. Because there will certainly there will be a monstrous amount of money applied on finding ways to remove him from existence by many, many powerful people. He knows it too.

Anonymous No. 16453211

>>16453210
>In other news, Elon Musk has suddenly developed Aphasia following Trump's re-election.

Anonymous No. 16453219

>>16453083
They have to make it out of Earth orbit first

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16453224

JET IT UP

Anonymous No. 16453225

>>16453197
If he turns into the Soros of the right shit is going to get a lot weirder politically speaking, because nobody with vision has hit the political scene in decades.

He's looking at the next 20 years (which is about all he has left before senescence kicks in) and realizing unless progress goes balls to the wall for those 20 years he will likely not be on Mars when he dies. We're being treated to the rarest of all things: a motivated rich guy. Like Carnegie, Elon knows he can't take it with him.

Anonymous No. 16453226

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4VtCBX2d4s
>First look: Rocket Lab's Neutron launch site

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Anonymous No. 16453227

>>16453226

Anonymous No. 16453232

>>16453225
its not just any motivated rich guy, he is probably going to become the first trillionaire and has succeeded in multiple different separate industries (and looks like this politics thing is going pretty well too)
he might actually be a large part of a general transformation of western politics in general, kind of difficult to estimate what its going to entail though
free speech in Europe too through Americas cultural hegemony? more efficient governments? AGI and humanoid bots are going to come during this 20 years so that complicates things a lot too, though Musk has talked about high universal income (vs basic universal income), but I don't think UBI is generally very popular with the right

Anonymous No. 16453235

>>16452825

> 600 m3
> 60% of a cubic kilometer

Finest science forum on the Internet.

Anonymous No. 16453236

>>16453235
0.6 cubic kilometres (km^3)

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Anonymous No. 16453240

>>16453236

> 0.6 cubic kilometres (km^3)

Anonymous No. 16453241

>>16453240
Are you retarded

Anonymous No. 16453244

>>16453240
moron
it's a cubic KILOMETER
that's a SI prefix of ^3

1000 cubic meters

Anonymous No. 16453245

>>16453232
>UBI

Citizen's Dividend is objectively better in every way.

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Anonymous No. 16453246

>cubic km = km^3

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Anonymous No. 16453248

>>16453240
come on man

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Anonymous No. 16453254

>>16453236

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Anonymous No. 16453255

/sfg/ in the 2nd grade

Anonymous No. 16453257

>>16453244
a cubic kilometer is not made of 1000 cubic meters

Anonymous No. 16453266

Newfags getting rused again, classic

Anonymous No. 16453271

>>16453266
I even tried to help here >>16453241
Another newfag for the /sfg/ discord starboard I guess.

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Anonymous No. 16453272

It would only take ~300-400 starship launches to take all of earth's fresh water off-planet.

Anonymous No. 16453273

reminder that megagram is a better term than ton. ton is confusing and inconsistent

Anonymous No. 16453274

>>16452805
so giant cosmic jenkum pots?

Anonymous No. 16453275

>>16453272
from a glance at that image, fresh water is approximately one cubic Ohio

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Anonymous No. 16453278

>>16453272
MUSK CAN NOT BE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH THIS

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Anonymous No. 16453288

>>16453272
I dunno anon you're several orders of magnitude off

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Anonymous No. 16453289

>>16453288
No it's correct you just have to convert from miles to km. 325.087 km, musk could dump it all on mars.

Anonymous No. 16453296

>>16452731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpCPgHVBV1s

Anonymous No. 16453313

>>16453225
>We're being treated to the rarest of all things: a motivated rich guy. Like Carnegie, Elon knows he can't take it with him

Feels fucking good man. Long overdue.

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Anonymous No. 16453314

can somebody give me a timeline on when I can start throwing fondue and wine parties at my mediterranean styled villa on a "swinging singles" only spin-hab? I'm really getting sick of being stuck down here with all the riff raff.

Anonymous No. 16453320

>>16453314
November 6 all being well.

Anonymous No. 16453330

>>16453211
>>16453210
I feel like this wont help us get to Mars. I'm not sure we can do it without him

Anonymous No. 16453336

>>16453232
UBI or whatever someone can come up with to determine how goods and services are gonna work in a semi-post-scarcity world where humans dont need to work. we need something, some purpose, some kind of currency or else we'll all turn into virtual reality vegetable niggers. im actually a bit concerned how humanity bifurcates. some will be content living in VR, some will be zoo animals for agi, i just hope some make it to Mars

Anonymous No. 16453342

>>16453330
SpaceX can run itself now, the most important thing is squeezing the last drops out of America before the money system is fucked and clearing out all the dipshits and laws for a time so he can build giant launch complexes with 24/7 cleared launch corridors and 0 government inteference. Elon is right, if it doesn't happen now, it's over.

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Anonymous No. 16453356

https://x.com/rpoo/status/1850746060605436094

reposted by musk

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Anonymous No. 16453359

>>16453356

Anonymous No. 16453364

>>16453356
There really is a chance for America to dominate the entire century if Musk was put in charge of efficiency department. It would put America back on the right track.

Anonymous No. 16453366

>>16453364
I still think its somewhat unlikely they can change as much as they want to simply because this will probably require multiple changes in law
can people in different agencies be fired freely? if not, then thats pretty different from how Musk runs his companies
maybe if the republicans get the house and senate in a major way and congress is actually behind Trump
simply winning the presidential election won't be enough (helpful for the 4 years sure, but enough to make real changes? I don't know)

Anonymous No. 16453368

>>16453364
It won't, it just gives a window. The fiat currency system is going to 0 and then it's all over. But if he can gut spending, we can extend the end long enough hopefully to get enough people and materials off this shithole planet.

Anonymous No. 16453369

>>16453366
>because this will probably require multiple changes in law

The executive branch has some really broad powers. If he backs Elon it can happen.

Anonymous No. 16453371

>>16453369
I'm not sure about Trump. He was pretty meh in his first term, I dunno if Elon would really move the needle on things as far as the government side is concerned.

Anonymous No. 16453372

>>16453371
First term was naivety. Second term should be more focused.

Anonymous No. 16453373

>>16453371
2nd term presidents know they got nothing to lose

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Anonymous No. 16453374

>>16452715
how does it feel?

Anonymous No. 16453377

>>16453374
I don't care about some desert death cult schizobabble

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Anonymous No. 16453379

>>16453377

Anonymous No. 16453382

>>16453374
Eat my dick, kike

Anonymous No. 16453386

>>16453382
are you gay?

Anonymous No. 16453387

>>16453371
I would think it's likely they will fall out again when it's time to execute. They are very much the opposite of each other. Musk is bad at the media game but his ability as a business leader is extraordinary, and it makes Trump seems like a summer ant in comparison. Musk would barely be a billionaire if he had invested his PayPal money in S&P 500. Trump hasn't beaten the market with his inheritance.
If Trump is willing to be a Reagan like figurehead and not assert himself things could work out.

Anonymous No. 16453390

>>16452819
>5m straight section
that's still bigger than my house, and the tapered section is another two stories on top of that, I think it'll be fine

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Anonymous No. 16453391

>>16453374
Desu he looks very unflattering in that photo. I guess he looks ugly in general. Then again I'm not gay

Anonymous No. 16453403

the cat died

Anonymous No. 16453404

>>16453254
Damn, starship is gonna be huge

Anonymous No. 16453405

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuL4tfc10AA
Zeihan finally giving some recognition to Starship

Anonymous No. 16453406

>>16452829
Vast is launching Haven 1 on a falcon.

Anonymous No. 16453407

>>16453405
lol he is completely clueless about the technical aspects of what actually happened
thinks the boosters have been discarded and this is the first time they have been reused
but I guess he gets the idea about full reusability compared to previous partial reusability and what the cost implications of that might be

Anonymous No. 16453413

>>16453407
The dude's only good at making doomer videos on America's rival nations, not spaceflight companies. I dunno why he decided to make that video, it's clearly not in his ballpark.

Anonymous No. 16453420

>>16453405
He's a fucking retard paid off actor to shill for NATO gay buttfucking industrial war complex

Anonymous No. 16453421

>>16453314
sorry you're actually going to be psychologically subverted retard nigger cattle that will castrate your own offspring and worship black people while having homosexual relationships in virtual reality dressed as an anime girl

Anonymous No. 16453422

>>16453131
They basically do the legal parts of this

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Anonymous No. 16453429

>>16453421
Extremely troubling

Anonymous No. 16453445

>>16452834
I'm laughing over here as the Musk Cultists keep moving the goal posts. We went from 100 tons cargo to orbit by 2023 to kvetching over how regulators are blocking all their progress and how it doesn't matter that Starship isn't launching cargo to space because being a tanker is OK and all we need right now....except it's not. On top of the fact that Space X has yet to send a fully loaded tanker into a stable orbit. I don't think they can. Elon has basically achieved 1953 levels of space exploration.

In 1961 Soviet Russia sent Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin around the Earth for a full orbit and 108 minute flight. He then returned safely to the Earth. Space X and Starship haven't done this and can't do this. It's a literal stainless steel beer can. There are no crew capabilities and no real cargo capabilities. They have had huge issues controlling the spin of Starship once it separates and filling it with liquid will only make that feedback loop worse.

Our society doesn't reward smart independent critical thinkers. It rewards compliant NPCs who don't ask questions. That's why our world sucks and why science and discovery have stalled and died in the hot summer sun.

Anonymous No. 16453447

>>16453445
>In 1961 Soviet Russia sent Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin around the Earth for a full orbit and 108 minute flight. He then returned safely to the Earth. Space X and Starship haven't done this and can't do this.
bro just forgot about falcon 9 and dragon

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Anonymous No. 16453448

>>16453447
debunked by thunderfoot and the washington post

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Anonymous No. 16453451

>>16453445

Anonymous No. 16453465

Is there any technical reason satellite megaconstellations couldn't replace cellular networks and terrestrial ISPs entirely? (Assuming it's possible to change hardware and protocols as necessary, and that it's possible to obtain sufficient bandwidth)

If SpaceX can launch thousands of satellites in a day, why shouldn't they?

Anonymous No. 16453466

Now this is how a neat and tidy modern space station looks. Everything is perfect. Astronauts look young and clean. You can even smell the fresh air from here.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMoomWmIkww

Anonymous No. 16453469

>>16453465
It's starting to look like no.

Anonymous No. 16453470

>>16452821
They already send cows via airliner and via ship. The main difference will be the length of the trip.

Anonymous No. 16453471

>>16453465
Because of how far away they are, the general signal throughput of Starlinks is much more limited than terrestrial cell phone antennas. Physically, Starlink direct to cell is not capable of serving a dense population center adequately.

Anonymous No. 16453472

>>16453470
Yeah, 8 months sharing air with a fucking cow. That's what I'm saying

Anonymous No. 16453476

>>16453465
serving the densest cities might not be cost effective compared to ground infrastructure, but where that cut off actually is unknown
satellite based connectivity is encroaching and there is going to be some zones where ground based infrastructure and satellites compete

Anonymous No. 16453478

>>16453465
Sounds like a good idea if you want to make communications vulnerable to attack or Astronomical events.
Also how big of a satellite antenna would you need to get good bandwidth using mobile device power?

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Anonymous No. 16453480

>>16453466

Anonymous No. 16453483

>>16453034
Increasing funding for NASA just makes old space revenue increase

Anonymous No. 16453486

In Hell massfags will be forced to shave off pieces of their own body with a dull pocket knife until they weigh less than 20 pounds, at which point the process starts over

Anonymous No. 16453488

>>16453483
There's a great chance of cancelling SLS

Anonymous No. 16453489

>>16453044
You haven't thought this through. Without other organisms, mosquitoes can't survive. The larvae need to eat and the adults feed on plants in addition to their blood meals.

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Anonymous No. 16453490

>>16453466
ISS is disgusting

Anonymous No. 16453491

>>16453082
After Trump retires he will start a new career as a whale psychologist on Mars

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Anonymous No. 16453492

Why are fuel tanks spheres and not cylindroids?

Anonymous No. 16453494

>>16453490
Skylab sucks. Where am I supposed to put my 45 Thinkpads (all broken)
>>16453492
Go blow up a cylindrical balloon and get back to us

Anonymous No. 16453495

>>16453108
You should be ground into a fine paste and the paste should be used to write a warning to others on a billboard

Anonymous No. 16453496

>>16453027
the potential for Starship/Centaur still exists

Anonymous No. 16453497

>>16453472
perhaps the indian space agency could take care of this aspect of the program?

Anonymous No. 16453499

>>16453124
kek

Anonymous No. 16453500

>>16453491
Areocetology has a bright future

Anonymous No. 16453502

>>16453125
The least plausible thing here is the idea that old space would charge only $500 for 24 bolts

Anonymous No. 16453505

>>16453391
>that brutal hairline
>that brutal jawline
i find young musk so magnetic, but he was smart to get a hair transpalant and jaw surgery.
The world is so vain. If he was bald with a recessed jaw then all normies would view him as a weird loser. The biggest pr msitake of Bezos was losing his hair

Anonymous No. 16453506

>>16453197
If they get control of the house, the senate and the white house, this could be a totally different country in 4 years. The supreme court is already in the bag.

Anonymous No. 16453510

>>16453240
non-old non-straight

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Anonymous No. 16453512

>>16453494
Just put them in a balloon and shove them out of the airlock. The drag on the balloon makes it all reenter

Anonymous No. 16453513

Chink dragon on top of a BO-style hopper
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNSU5FmdhU

Anonymous No. 16453514

>>16453497
>solve for cow poop and astronaut food
You're a genius

Anonymous No. 16453515

>>16453512
>no external moving parts
Wait a minute this is genius

Anonymous No. 16453516

>>16453476
I live in a sort of rural area and got Starlink when it was beta since all that was available was 20mb dsl. It was great and I had it until earlier this year when gigabit fiber came to town thanks to government subsidy. So they are competing with terrestrial ISPs in underserved areas. Plus their increasing domination in plane and ship internet and the starshield constellation.

Anonymous No. 16453518

>>16453496
centaur v delivered most of the way to an earth escape by starship would be doing direct transfers to kuiper belt objects.
American space capability in general would be so powerful if politics were put away. All the oldpsace clowns could focus up on making a LEM ripoff and could have done artemis 3 half a decade ago by flying the LEM on falcon heavy. The LEM for Artemis would need more delta v than the OG, so worst case scenario launch the ascent and decent stages separately and mate them around the moon before orion arrives. Instead we have the clownshow of having to develop an all new sueprheavy lift launch vehicle and land its skyscraper upper stage on the moon because oldspace are a no-show and Blue Origin won't cooperate with SpaceX.

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Anonymous No. 16453519

>>16453492
ease of manufacture would be my guess, but you do see discoid tanks sometimes

Anonymous No. 16453520

>>16453182
both parties support Israel you fuck

Anonymous No. 16453522

>>16453494
do they really have a collection of broken thinkpads?
is there no room in the dragon trunk to take them to the repair shop?

Anonymous No. 16453523

>>16453471
>Starlink direct to cell
Sorry for not spelling this out more clearly. The question is explicitly not about using existing cellphones and not about being limited to the planned size of the starlink constellation.
Obviously you would want to use more satellites (the launch capacity will exist shortly) and use different frequencies, protocols, hardware, etc.

Anonymous No. 16453526

>>16453478
>vulnerable to attack
I'm not seeing how satellites in orbit are easier to attack than ground infrastructure

Anonymous No. 16453528

>>16453523
You would need to allocate a lot more spectrum to covering the needs of phones if you used orbital networks, and the supply of bandwidth is at a premium. It's technically possible, but it would cost you in spectrum.

Anonymous No. 16453529

why can zoomers not produce SOVL like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXeUkrlxQ98

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Anonymous No. 16453531

>>16453522
According to this Facebook meme, the shuttle brought at least one in 2015

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Anonymous No. 16453532

Buncha mental midgets in this thread who can't understand volume isn't the same as area

Anonymous No. 16453533

>>16453514
plus religious idols and in flight entertainment.

Anonymous No. 16453535

>>16453532
>The prefix kilo- is a metric system prefix that means "thousand" and multiplies a unit by 1,000. It comes from the Greek word chilioi, which also means "thousand". In the International System of Units (SI), the symbol for kilo- is the lowercase letter k.
I wonder what we'd call ONE THOUSAND cubic meters dumbass

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Anonymous No. 16453537

>>16453533
I'm not yet convinced religious idols are unnecessary for leaving the bounds of the noosphere.

Anonymous No. 16453539

>>16453519
it's more common to choose toroidal tanks for that form factor

Anonymous No. 16453542

>>16453537
you bring the noosphere with you when you leave the earth because it's made of human thought, the only way you can actually leave the noosphere is by death
it's a metaphorical thing, not a real thing

Anonymous No. 16453543

>>16453542
>it's a metaphorical thing, not a real thing
I'm not going to have a theological argument in /sfg/ but I'm not convinced

Anonymous No. 16453544

>>16453197
You know I hope the incumbents losing what looks like is going to be twice now, doesn't mean we've seen the end of 8 year administrations. But politics might just get hotter and hotter.

Anonymous No. 16453545

>>16453157
its from some guy's model rocket
i saw it on xwitter

Anonymous No. 16453546

>>16453159
>early hop
lol they didn't have rvacs in the early hops
its from some guy's model rocket

Anonymous No. 16453547

>>16453543
how about go fuck yourself then.

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Anonymous No. 16453551

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/spacex-has-caught-a-massive-rocket-so-whats-next/
eric berger starship timeline! get in here and rate the dates!

Anonymous No. 16453552

>>16453255
i used to build cities with these and destroy them with earthquakes(shaking the desk)

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Anonymous No. 16453555

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1850883914434240985

I have some internal urge to call him faggot every time I see the name, but I don't want to get blocked on X

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ EBOK No. 16453556

Mouf

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Anonymous No. 16453558

>>16453555
>>16453551

Anonymous No. 16453559

>>16453551
>spacex rumoured to be attempting a ship landing in Australia or the Johnston Atoll in the pacific
>multiple sources confirming a target date of next year for propellant transfer demo
>one source saying starship can't handle landing on a slope of greater than 1.5 degrees on the moon

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Anonymous No. 16453564

https://x.com/christiandean_/status/1850599895939293280
>What have you got done this week?

Anonymous No. 16453567

>Destroys your hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u8_fp1TtJE

Anonymous No. 16453569

>>16453567
Not watching, what were the 6 supposed lies?

Anonymous No. 16453571

>>16453559
>one source saying starship can't handle landing on a slope of greater than 1.5 degrees on the moon
LMAOOOOOOOOO
looks like 18m chads are vindicated!

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Anonymous No. 16453573

>>16453559
just find a flat spot to land on

Anonymous No. 16453574

>>16453569
Trump good
Elon good
Tesla good
SpaceX good
Republicans good
Democrats bad

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Anonymous No. 16453585

>>16453551

Anonymous No. 16453587

>>16453571
ITS was 12m wide, I don't understand why they went with 9m, now they are stuck with a pencil rocket.

Anonymous No. 16453588

>>16453587
>fattest payload bay ever built
>pencil rocket
are you also mad that the first steam ships weren't panamax?

Anonymous No. 16453590

>>16453588
>panamax
bro we've already moved on to neo-panamax and the true final boss malaccamax

Anonymous No. 16453593

>>16453590
these things take time. 27m gigaship eventually but 9m is the current state of the art for rocket manufacturing.

Anonymous No. 16453595

>>16453571
They should deploy an orbital mirror array around the moon and melt the rocks to make a perfectly flat surface

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Anonymous No. 16453596

>>16453590
>malaccamax
The true final bass is the chinamax apparently.

Anonymous No. 16453598

>>16453588
There's a limit to how much more they can stretch the starship, not to mention they can't add more engines to it either.

Anonymous No. 16453600

>>16453596
>chinamax
>can't navigate the grand canal
worthless

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Anonymous No. 16453602

>>16453598
>they can't add more engines to it
I beg to differ

Anonymous No. 16453607

>>16453596
>Unlike Suezmax and Panamax, Chinamax is not determined by locks or channels, or bridgesโ€”the Chinamax standard is aimed at port provisions
Slightly different than the others. Capesize/ULCC also exists which are too big for anything and spend nearly their entire lives at sea. Maybe we'll see Staship variants like this.

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Anonymous No. 16453614

Its time

Anonymous No. 16453616

>>16453614
>Meters
>Pounds
>Tons
Go home, you're drunk.

Anonymous No. 16453624

>For this reason, SpaceX may attempt to vertically land Starship elsewhere first. There have been rumors about a partnership with Australia, and one source told Ars that SpaceX was scouting the Johnston Atoll in the Pacific Ocean earlier this year. Such locations would allow for a safer return of Starship to land. However, such an approach would also necessitate landing legs.

Anonymous No. 16453628

>>16453520
>both parties are controlled by Israel you fuck
ftfy

Anonymous No. 16453630

>and each launch puts a serious dent into the US production of liquid oxygen, which is used by various customers, including hospitals.

Anonymous No. 16453634

>>16453630
liquid oxygen production will scale

Anonymous No. 16453635

>>16453630
who are you quoting?

Anonymous No. 16453636

>>16453624
Why not land on Omelek?

Anonymous No. 16453638

>>16453635
Berger

Anonymous No. 16453640

>>16453624
>However, such an approach would also necessitate landing legs
Just copy the old design.

Anonymous No. 16453641

>>16453559
>can't handle landing on a slope of greater than 1.5 degrees on the moon
these are rookie numbers

Anonymous No. 16453642

>>16453587
They kept shrinking the design because it was in development hell for half a decade and manufacturing 12m carbon compsite tanks was too hard. Switching to stainless was a bold decision of despiration, but by thne the design was already undersized.
the 12m ITS is the minimum viable diameter to make the archietecture work. Not scrapping the smaller designs in favor of a staniless ITS was Elons biggest mistake. Pencilship will never make it to Mars landing. Meanwhile ITS was built with big wide landing legs from the get go.
ITS had the form and performance to be the universal space ship, and now they will have to jerry rig a pencilship for each niche application raising the cost of everything

Anonymous No. 16453644

>>16453602
looks sexier than the shuttle anus with 6 vac engines, and thats saying something.

Anonymous No. 16453645

>>16453614
light this MTHRFCKR!

Anonymous No. 16453647

>>16453614
sometimes i think it was all a dream and that i will wake up tomorrow with an interplanetary transport system on the pad. then i remember.

Anonymous No. 16453651

>NASA's Lori Glaze says at the LEAG meeting this morning that an investigation has determine the root cause of the Orion heat shield erosion seen on Artemis 1, confirmed with arcjet testing. She declined to disclose that root cause.

Anonymous No. 16453652

>>16453651
Thats not a good sign.

Anonymous No. 16453653

>>16453651
that's good. hopefully they will be able to implement a fix this decade

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Anonymous No. 16453657

>>16453526
One asat can easily take out a satellite but ground assets are protected by interception systems

Anonymous No. 16453660

They don't need two towers to test orbital fuel transfer, asshole!

Anonymous No. 16453661

>>16453657
if you belive that anyof these "asat" systems work then i have a bridge to sell you.

Anonymous No. 16453662

>>16453661
they've been tested, they work

Anonymous No. 16453665

>>16453661
WTF are you talking about, isn't that the whole reason for the wolf amendment?

Anonymous No. 16453666

>>16453657
here's a fun little math problem for you.
how many starlink satellites are there?
how many asat missiles are there among all countries?

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Anonymous No. 16453668

>>16453641
Just reconfigure for horizontal landings then.

Anonymous No. 16453669

>>16453668
extremely homosexual nasa logo

Anonymous No. 16453670

>>16453669
You can be in charge of the decal, anon. I trust you on this.

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Anonymous No. 16453672

>>16453670
Heres a logo with some cheat hair

Anonymous No. 16453673

>>16453405
>this was the first time a booster was recovered

This guy has no idea what he is talking about.

Anonymous No. 16453675

>>16453480
Can any AI virtuoso chop the jumping Elon in gay Trump cap meme over a few seconds of one of those fake CSS propaganda vids? It would be funny to see him siding in in the background.

Anonymous No. 16453677

>>16453673
This guy is only famous cause he satisfies the american market for "china collapse in 2 weeks!" stories.
He's been doing this since 2007.

Anonymous No. 16453678

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

two more weeks

Anonymous No. 16453682

>>16453668
those poor engine bells. would need some nice tall landing supports because given how long it is, one rock sticking up in the middle and you've just put a hole in the side.

Anonymous No. 16453685

>>16453640
>Just copy the old design.

Starship would almost certainly use a leg based on Falcon's.

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Anonymous No. 16453689

>>16453630
Apparently this is the size of a 5000 tons/day oxygen plant. Not something you can just plop in Starbase. Unless you raze the village.

Anonymous No. 16453690

>>16453685
>She declined to disclose that root cause.
Starship is going to be caught anyway and skirt with small legs would be a good enough crash zone.

Anonymous No. 16453691

>>16453630
>>16453689
If I was the owner of the oxygen production plant, I would just start expanding it, as demand will continue to increase even more.

Anonymous No. 16453692

>>16453685
you think they could just fasten unmodified falcon legs to a starship? would they be strong enough and to stand starship up under lunar gravity?

Anonymous No. 16453694

>>16453692
You would need more than four but otherwise yes.

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Anonymous No. 16453696

>>16453668
nearly there

Anonymous No. 16453707

>>16453673
>This guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Zeihan is peak dunning kruger.
He has this same oblivious retardation on every topic he talks about. He's a reminder of how little people know and how even if you think you have a surface level brushing knowledge on a topic you almost certainly already know more than 99% of people.

Anonymous No. 16453709

>>16453696
looks suspiciously like the lander from Aliens

Anonymous No. 16453713

>>16453696
Now we're cooking

Anonymous No. 16453715

you wouldn't need a fuckhuge plant to produce oxygen if you just let people mass produce low energy nuclear reactors to transmute elements and get your oxygen that way

Anonymous No. 16453718

found peter becks youtube channel-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAYsTdSD0nI

Anonymous No. 16453721

https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/how-cheese-slice-almost-derailed-rocket-test
Cheese reveals GNC shortcomings
>Impressively, the cheese stunt almost caused a rocket failure. โ€œYes, it was indeed Gruyรจre, and it almost caused a disaster! The cheese created an aero effect that led to the rocket over spinning,โ€ Marciacq explained to Interesting Engineering.

Anonymous No. 16453725

>>16453662
And how many are currently deployable?

Anonymous No. 16453729

>>16453662
found the northrop employee.

Anonymous No. 16453733

>>16453715
exactly, thats why so many companies are turning base metals into precious metals using nuclear physics. need lithium for batteries? just take some carbon from the air and split it in two.

Anonymous No. 16453736

>>16453709
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SpX8bVEmJo

Anonymous No. 16453739

>>16453721
>students performed the most important rocketry test in Europe so far
>the Gruyรจre Space Program
interesting times

Anonymous No. 16453744

>>16453739
are they from the town of the same name?

Anonymous No. 16453746

>>16453585
I am assuming the target starship gonna be in the orbit waiting "for a while", right? Or is the plan to launch both kinda simultaneously.

Anonymous No. 16453748

>>16453746
Given what we know about boil off rates, the current cadence will work fine

Anonymous No. 16453752

>>16453744
cant tell so far but one of their supporters is the Canton of Fribourg which is the region where the town of Gruyere is. Impressive work no matter how cheesy their pranks are. They are really showing everyone else how to fondue it properly.

Anonymous No. 16453753

Soros backed DA is now suing Musk. LMAO. Its Musk vs Soros.

Anonymous No. 16453755

>>16453746
if its anything like the Agena target vehicle used during Gemini it could launch anywhere from a couple hours to several days in advance and just wait for them to find it.

Anonymous No. 16453756

>>16453755
you know nothing about what youre talking about and it shows. clown

Anonymous No. 16453757

>>16453753
For what?

Anonymous No. 16453759

>>16453753
>illegal lottery

it's not a lottery
nobody had to buy anything
just sign a simple petition to be eligible for the prize give away

Anonymous No. 16453761

>>16453759
Exactly. Its just simple incentives and Musk isnt even asking anyone to vote one way or another, just that they vote, regardless of whom.

Anonymous No. 16453764

>>16453753
They are trying to call Elon's sweepstakes a lottery despite the fact that by definition a lottery requires paying to enter.

Anonymous No. 16453766

>>16453753
The desperation in recent days makes me optimistic

Anonymous No. 16453771

>>16453761
yeah it's hilarious how they spun this as "paying voters"

just because you sign a 1st Amendment petition doesn't mean you can vote
for example, I'm sure non-citizens could have signed and won but they aren't allowed to vote in federal elections

right
non-citizens aren't allowed to vote for the president
just want to be sure we're all on the same page here, and the teeming millions imported over the last 4 years and given free drivers licenses aren't going to be illegally voting in this election

all these people so concerned about "election interference" are definitely going to be keeping close watch to make sure that doesn't happen I am sure

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Anonymous No. 16453774

>>16453756
ok buddy

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Anonymous No. 16453779

>>16453118
>STEAM
>arts

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Anonymous No. 16453798

>>16453779
virtue signaling like the she/her thing
repeal the 19th amendment

Anonymous No. 16453802

>>16453796
He hates being stuck to Earth
He can't help it
Look how he strives for the heavens

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Anonymous No. 16453812

>>16453796

Anonymous No. 16453818

So let's game out how quickly a Trump Presidency will lead to boots on the Moon

Anonymous No. 16453823

>>16453796
Now I get it, it's an X. Is this just his autistic love for X, or... is this some weird occult ritual of a billionaire?

Anonymous No. 16453825

>>16453802
he's iteratively testing his automated launch and landing capabilities along with inflight maneuvering. Who knows what he'll do next, or when.

Anonymous No. 16453826

>>16453823
it's how an autist naturally jumps

Anonymous No. 16453829

>>16453818
Even with elon on board I say they barely make 2028

Anonymous No. 16453830

>>16453818
he can't bring any dates forward but he'll probably try his best to make it happen by the end of his presidency

Anonymous No. 16453831

>>16453818
Absolutely nothing will change

Anonymous No. 16453840

>>16453818
we're going, I dont see how Trump could accelerate it at all since HLS is taking so long. Hopefully before the chinks is all I can say.

Anonymous No. 16453841

>4 Starships using the equivalent of the entire nations daily LOX capacity means SpaceX will need to increase LOX production by an order of magnitude. It won't be tenable to keep trucking in these propellants, a pipeline or on-site production facility will have to be built both in Texas and in Florida.
there's always a new bottleneck on the horizon...

Anonymous No. 16453843

>>16453840
The next admin could request more money for NASA in the FY2026 budget request, could direct NASA to allow commercial options in place of SLS-Orion etc etc.

Anonymous No. 16453844

>>16453841
At least there's oxygen everywhere. What the fuck is the helium solution?

Anonymous No. 16453846

>>16453844
switch to argon, nitrogen, or hydrogen for all current applications.

Anonymous No. 16453847

>>16453844
hydrogen was always better

Anonymous No. 16453850

>>16453843
Money won't fix anything and commercial options at this point wouldn't move faster than Orion

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Anonymous No. 16453851

I bring bad news , people .

Nasa eliminates Shackleton crater rim (red arrow in the image) as a possible landing site. Now it is investigating many other alternatives like :
Peak near Cabeus B
Haworth
Malapert Massif
Mons Mouton Plateau
Mons Mouton
Nobile Rim 1
Nobile Rim 2
de Gerlache Rim 2
Slater Plain

Link to the article : https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-provides-update-on-artemis-iii-moon-landing-regions/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=NASA&utm_campaign=NASASocial&linkId=636875424

Anonymous No. 16453853

>>16453851
why?

Anonymous No. 16453855

>>16453851
noooo not shacklenigger crater!!!!!!

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Anonymous No. 16453856

why would you give up such prime position to mine resources?

Anonymous No. 16453858

https://vocaroo.com/1oGJrZIm8cra

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Anonymous No. 16453860

>>16452715
Are you ready for the next Lunar landing?

Anonymous No. 16453861

Relight next or no?

Anonymous No. 16453863

>>16453860
when?
>>16453861
they already relit on landing right, just not in space

Anonymous No. 16453865

>>16453844
>>16453841
build an air compressor

Anonymous No. 16453870

>>16452751
>realistically speaking, would this even accelerate SpaceX's development? Are they even bottlenecked by money?
Least retarded /sfg/got.

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Anonymous No. 16453871

>>16453863
Planned for November.

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Anonymous No. 16453875

>>16453860
>>16453871
looks like a more sensible lander design than nova c

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Anonymous No. 16453877

>wait 15 minutes to make a post
>post
>have to wait 15 minutes to make a second post
why are they trying to kill off the site?

Anonymous No. 16453878

Space mining is as much of a meme as space elevators btw

Anonymous No. 16453882

>>16453860
>ghost hardware
>doesn't exist
refreshing honesty

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Anonymous No. 16453884

>>16453877
skill issue tea bee aitch

Anonymous No. 16453887

>>16453877
phoneposting? even so what is moot thinking?

Anonymous No. 16453890

>>16453877
Seems to work here, even on cellular data.

Anonymous No. 16453891

>>16453689
Time to build the Sabatier plants.

Anonymous No. 16453892

>>16453877
Stop posting from new IPs retard.

Anonymous No. 16453893

>>16453887
mert is kill

Anonymous No. 16453894

>>16453887
no im on my pc

Anonymous No. 16453895

>>16453894
Did you eat your 4chan cookies?

Anonymous No. 16453897

>>16453850
>commercial options at this point wouldn't move faster than Orion

You can replace Orion with a Dragon with an embiggened trunk (like the ISS deorbit vehicle) that uses propulsive deceleration rather than a beefier heat shield in order to handle Lunar return velocities.

Anonymous No. 16453898

>>16453897
Take astronauts to orbit in dragon and take them to the moon on HLS.
The department of government efficiency will make it happen.

Anonymous No. 16453899

>>16453895
nope, i didnt do anything. i assume its a bug, or maybe an A/B test, but probably a bug since i doubt they care enough to test.

Anonymous No. 16453901

>>16453898
How do you return

Anonymous No. 16453903

Elon finally convinced me to register to vote (swing state resident) but I think I fucked it up. Sorry Elon! I did my best

Anonymous No. 16453910

>>16452825
it's about 2 cubic kilofeeters

Anonymous No. 16453912

>>16453903
Nobody cares

Anonymous No. 16453913

>>16453903
you are going on the no-mars list

Anonymous No. 16453914

>nasa budget: ~25 billlion
>annual return to the economy: ~75 billion
why doesnt every country have their own civilian space agency then? 3x ROI sounds like an amazing deal.

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Anonymous No. 16453918

>>16453914
corruption in latin america sucks ass

I feel sorry for these little Mexican guys on Peregrine 1

Anonymous No. 16453919

>>16453913
:( why? I accidentally registered in two places I just don't want a felony

Anonymous No. 16453920

>>16453901
Rendezvous with another Starship

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Anonymous No. 16453922

>>16453919
NO MARS

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Anonymous No. 16453924

>>16453914
75 billion make believe dollars doesn't buy very much

Anonymous No. 16453925

>>16453924
USD is the only real money. everything else (maybe barring yuan) is monopoly play pretend cash

Anonymous No. 16453926

>>16453920
40 refuels for a single mission?

Anonymous No. 16453927

>>16453914
A surprising number of countries do have space angencies but they just rent satelites built and launched by the USA and rarely Europe

Anonymous No. 16453928

>>16453926
no

Anonymous No. 16453929

>>16453898
If this happens SLSanons will legitimately turn to terrorism.

Anonymous No. 16453930

>>16453926
Still 100 times cheaper than SLS

Anonymous No. 16453932

>>16453922
You don't understand, I want to vote! Just not enough to drive somewhere and interact with someone

Anonymous No. 16453936

>>16453914
the entire F1,F9,FH,SS development cost has been 11 billion over 20 years. How much ROI is that? Defund NASA, they are irrelevant

Anonymous No. 16453938

>>16452763
>>16452760
>>16453146
I did say liquidate it. E.g. sell off everything, then give Elon the money.

Anonymous No. 16453939

>>16453893
no, he works for boeing now
in all seriousness moot joining the fight with Elon would be an epic comeback

Anonymous No. 16453941

>>16453870
Thank you.

Anonymous No. 16453946

>>16453914
This is hilarious book cooking, they hope you aren't going to read a 400 page report to see what they counted.

Anonymous No. 16453947

>>16452751
Blue is working on things SpaceX isn't, don't let the overlap of launch vehicles distract you.

Anonymous No. 16453948

>>16453914
Wow, Americans drink that much tang???

Anonymous No. 16453950

>>16453947
>overlap of launch vehicles
huh??? blue origin has no orbital launchers!

Anonymous No. 16453951

Our queen just posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3WTxZOJkDA

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Anonymous No. 16453953

>>16453951
not space, not flight, not spaceflight
this general is Trump adjacent but still

Anonymous No. 16453955

>>16453950
You are doing the same thing as the EDS crowd saying Starship has yet to make orbit.

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Anonymous No. 16453959

>Nightmare fuel for the next sci-fi thriller, the space spider craneโ€”shown here at NASA_Langleyโ€”was a concept invented in the 1970s as a means of constructing or moving components of large structures in space.
https://x.com/NASAhistory/status/1850930530264445027

Anonymous No. 16453960

>>16453955
Starship has flown numerous times. New Glenn doesn't even exist, all they have is a metal tube they cart around to make sure it fits out the door.

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Anonymous No. 16453961

>>16453923
taken by donald pettit or matt dominick I think since they are known photography buffs.
almost as good as what I could get with a telescope on Earth.

Anonymous No. 16453962

>>16453959
It's cute.

Anonymous No. 16453964

>>16453959
This is horrorfying. Imagine seeing the in the backrooms. Oh my god

Anonymous No. 16453966

>>16453959
snib sneb

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Anonymous No. 16453967

>>16453962
There will be an anime girl version before the end of the thread

Anonymous No. 16453968

https://x.com/esherifftv/status/1850967257964224713

Booba

Anonymous No. 16453970

>>16453968
>retards actually think humans run youtube
It's all algorithm

Anonymous No. 16453974

>>16453967
god i fucking love anime girls.

Anonymous No. 16453976

>>16453960
you sound like an insufferable faggot I hope you aren't like this in person.

Anonymous No. 16453977

>>16453976
if stating factual information makes him an insufferable faggot then i slobber on wet precum laden schlongs as well.

Anonymous No. 16453978

>>16453976
>I can't stand you pointing out that Blue Origin has existed for longer than SpaceX and yet has never put a single object into orbit
Sounds like a you problem.

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Anonymous No. 16453981

>>16453951
We have only one queen

Anonymous No. 16453986

>>16453978
it's not 2023 any more. be4s deliver payloads to lunar orbit. new glenn flight hardware is functionally complete.

Anonymous No. 16453987

>>16453981
wtf that's not boxxy

Anonymous No. 16453988

>>16453986
ula hasn't been bought by bo yet.

Anonymous No. 16453989

>>16453959
i welcome our new spidercrane overlords

Anonymous No. 16453990

>>16452733
I would pay load for you, alright?

Anonymous No. 16453991

https://vocaroo.com/141308g1rQzi

Anonymous No. 16453992

>>16453981
bikini on a pig.

Anonymous No. 16453993

>>16453960
See you are doing the exact same thing the EDS crowd does.

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Anonymous No. 16454002

>>16453993
The crowning achievement of the New Glenn project is ULA launching a rocket.

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Anonymous No. 16454005

>>16453981
that's not usui clear

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Anonymous No. 16454011

>>16454005
I want to make her squeal in bed like she did when the booster got caught

Anonymous No. 16454013

>>16454002
You need to put more effort into this.

Anonymous No. 16454016

>>16454013
Sorry.
"Blue Origin's second stage test two months ago was a massive success, as only 2/3rds of their mission slated vehicles exploded".

Anonymous No. 16454023

>>16453844
Wasn't the plan to use no helium? Where is it used in StarShip?

Anonymous No. 16454025

>>16453689
Time for Boring Company to get busy.

Anonymous No. 16454033

dont sleep on blue.

Anonymous No. 16454037

>>16453976
I'm 70% sure this is the communist from earlier

Anonymous No. 16454042

>>16453689
needs more power
UGH UGH UGH

Anonymous No. 16454044

>>16454016
Thank you, now remember that the origional comment that started this was about not getting fixated on launch vehicles.

Anonymous No. 16454046

>>16454033
my mattress has a blue color.

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Anonymous No. 16454048

If you could have sex with a rocket, which rocket would you have sex with? For me it's the Falcon 9, I love how elegant it is and how gracefully the boosters land.

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Anonymous No. 16454049

>>16454048
shuttle

Anonymous No. 16454051

>>16454048
Why are you shoving these up your ass anon.

Anonymous No. 16454052

>>16454033
I might, possibly, be guilty of sleeping on the 24 year old company that's making Falcon 1 era Spacex tier mistakes.
Sorry.

Anonymous No. 16454054

>>16454051
I'm not shoving them up my ass, I'm shoving my dick up them (right in the nozzle and cumming in the kerosene tank)

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>>16454048
Sorry I'm jetsexual and the F-35 was specifically designed to make me horny

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>>16454048
>>16454049
>>16454054
do not the rocket

Anonymous No. 16454060

>>16454049
thats a dump truck

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Anonymous No. 16454062

>>16454048
Ariane 5

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Anonymous No. 16454068

>>16454062
>brown eyes

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Anonymous No. 16454069

>>16454048
looks designed to hit the spot if you know what i mean. anyway, fopr me its got to be the V2...she was a beautiful little Fraulein, so tight und so, classic lines yah?

Anonymous No. 16454070

Falcon 9 looked disgusting--covered in soot--in its rotting fairing while launching. Very very disrespectful.

Anonymous No. 16454072

>>16454054
just so long as you aren't suffering from either over or under expansion everything will be ok

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Anonymous No. 16454073

>>16454069
I was just about to post V2 too, very cute, I love her Hugo Boss uniform and the fear she strikes into the British and striped pajama-wearers.

Anonymous No. 16454076

>>16454073
and like all high class escorts she runs on liquid ethanol. whats not to love?

Anonymous No. 16454078

>>16454068
>brown eyes
nothing wrong with that

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Anonymous No. 16454079

>>16454049
shuttle has the perfect backside, amazing bubble butt uncomparible to to others, which flexes when she takes off. but she is a bit stuck up and doesnt put out due to all the attention she gets. buran has a small rear which she is ashamed about, but she is really jealous of shuttle and wants badly to do better than her in every way. She will let you go up her rear every day if you just let her launch

Anonymous No. 16454084

>>16454079
that's a very interesting backside which leads me to believe that the rest of the creature is probably overly complex and high maintenance...not given to a good relationship you might say.

Anonymous No. 16454085

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanophilia

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Anonymous No. 16454088

>>16454048
Half-American Japanese trad wife

Anonymous No. 16454090

satellite servicing confirmed for unprofitable industry
https://spacenews.com/satellite-servicing-industry-faces-uncertain-military-demand/

looks like a bunch of startups are about to go out of business

Anonymous No. 16454092

>>16454090
looks like they have to enter the cock servicing industry.

Anonymous No. 16454097

Its Flight 6, no more IFTs since we probably go full orbital next time. OFT is a gay and antiquated name too.

Anonymous No. 16454098

>>16454090
such is the nature of startups

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Anonymous No. 16454104

>>16454048
I love big girls

Anonymous No. 16454105

>>16454092
a true growth industry with potential for aggressive expansion

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Anonymous No. 16454107

>>16454048
can't beat those wide hips and thick thighs

Anonymous No. 16454108

>>16454105
think im love with that hydraulic ram

Anonymous No. 16454109

>>16454090
current satellite design is not modular enough for on orbit maintenance to be viable beyond isolated cases in LEO. it's much simpler to launch a replacement, especially for anything beyond LEO.

Anonymous No. 16454112

>>16454105
it's a big industry but i hear it's hard to get into

Anonymous No. 16454116

>>16454107
looks like your typical burned out roastie ngl

Anonymous No. 16454117

>>16454108
Faggot loves ramming large and long objects up his ass big surprise

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Anonymous No. 16454118

>>16454048
Energia. Without any doubt.

Anonymous No. 16454119

>>16454078
you are not white and never will be

Anonymous No. 16454120

>>16454112
just needs a firm grasp of market conditions, a finger on the pulse of what the customer demands.

Anonymous No. 16454121

>>16454119
>>>/pol/ off you go. Someone start posting the black Starship rocketgirl as repellant

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Anonymous No. 16454123

>>16454121
>the anthropomorphizer is some brown thirdie
figures

Anonymous No. 16454124

>>16454123
saarship

Anonymous No. 16454125

>>16454123
The whole /sfg/ discord is laughing at you btw

Anonymous No. 16454135

>>16454125
theres a discord too?!??!11

Anonymous No. 16454137

shut the fuck up

Anonymous No. 16454140

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16454141

What if we used sprokane as rocket fuel?

Anonymous No. 16454143

>>16454135
Sorry, but I've turned off invites until after the election. Ask again then.

Anonymous No. 16454146

>>16454143
for the heckin love of elon, dont get my gander up like that!

Anonymous No. 16454147

>>16453696
someday a billionaire is going to build one of these and fly it on the moon

Anonymous No. 16454149

Shenzhou 19 press conference in one hour, we'll know the astronauts.

Commander will likely be Cai Xuzhe, although Zhang Lu and Lu Boming are possible. Then very likely two of the third PLA astronaut group.

Anonymous No. 16454150

What NASA Does for You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKN62JBCWVo

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Anonymous No. 16454155

>>16454125
uh oh the trannies have arrived

Anonymous No. 16454161

>>16454155
>he doesnt know
Back to the sharty moron. This is a trans accepting general, we dont need you chuds around here.

Anonymous No. 16454166

>>16454146
it's dander, retard

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Anonymous No. 16454168

>>16454161
Elon is anti Troon so we are too

Anonymous No. 16454169

>>16453689
Yes you can, they even used to have a refrigeration plant of that size before they dismantled it because of permitting needs getting in the way.

Anonymous No. 16454172

>>16454168
>we

Anonymous No. 16454174

>>16454168
>>16454172
Incorrect. I was anti-troon before Elon was because they're trying to convince kids to repeat their mistakes in lieu of admitting they erred.

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Anonymous No. 16454177

>>16454166
ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK

Anonymous No. 16454195

>>16454168
I'm actually fairly pro trans rights but I try not to let it get in the way of my posting here.

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Anonymous No. 16454200

The next /sfg/ edition will be frogs in space edition. There are two ways that could go and Im not telling you which it is

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Anonymous No. 16454202

>>16454200

Anonymous No. 16454204

>>16453947
>Blue is working on things SpaceX isn't,
it's true
they've completed dominated manned suborbital flight (excluding the airline industry which is millions of times bigger)

Anonymous No. 16454207

>>16453951
>jewish canadians talk about us politics
wow, thanks for this treat
also, kill yourself

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Anonymous No. 16454208

>>16454204
BEHOLD! Manned suborbital flight!

Anonymous No. 16454209

>>16453959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIfvcWCZZ7w

Anonymous No. 16454210

>>16454208
kek

Anonymous No. 16454213

>>16454202
was he okay?

Anonymous No. 16454215

>>16454208
12 payloads on that flight.
Left flotation device, right flotation device, life vest, t-shirt, shorts, underwear (jocks and singlet), four limbs and one head.

Anonymous No. 16454216

>>16454213
He dieded :(

Anonymous No. 16454217

>>16454202
what was elon doing there

Anonymous No. 16454220

>>16454217
thats not elon musk you fucking idiot.

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Anonymous No. 16454222

>>16454220
prove it, it looks like him

Anonymous No. 16454225

>>16454220
nonsense that was him doing his signature jump >>16453796

Anonymous No. 16454230

>>16454225
KEK

Anonymous No. 16454231

>>16453981
is it possible to remove the face?

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Anonymous No. 16454235

>>16454231
whats wrong with the face?

Anonymous No. 16454236

>>16454231
It would be extremely painful...

Anonymous No. 16454238

>>16454236
she's a big girl

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Anonymous No. 16454239

>>16454231
In short? yes.

Anonymous No. 16454240

>>16454236
she has a big face

Anonymous No. 16454242

>>16454235
don't do my girl miss piggy like that

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Anonymous No. 16454246

Shenzhou 19 Crew
Cai Xuzhe, 2nd flight, was operator on Shenzou 14
Song Lingdong, 1st flight, ex-PLAAF (Chinese air force)
Wang Haozhe, 1st flight, CASC AALPT Liquid Propulsion engineer

Anonymous No. 16454248

>>16454246
Heh heh. Dong.
Huh huh. Wang.

Anonymous No. 16454250

>>16454246
Lt Ching,
Sgt Chang
Pvt Chong

Anonymous No. 16454252

>>16454195
it should get in the way

Anonymous No. 16454254

>>16454240
4........

Anonymous No. 16454256

>>16454246
they all look the same to me

Anonymous No. 16454257

>>16454254
U!

Anonymous No. 16454259

>>16454246
>Wang Haozhe, 1st flight, CASC AALPT Liquid Propulsion engineer
is this their first non-military astronaut?

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Anonymous No. 16454263

>>16454259
2nd, 1st was Gui Haichao for Shenzhou 16 in 2023

>From 2014 to 2017, Gui Haichao was successively a postdoctoral researcher with the Department of Earth and Space Science and Engineering, York University, Toronto, Canada, and the Department of Aerospace Engineering, Ryerson University (Toronto Metropolitan University since 2022), Toronto. Since 2017, he has been an associate professor with the School of Astronautics, Beihang University. His research interests include spacecraft dynamics, nonlinear control, and estimation theory, with an emphasis on applications to space systems.[4][5]

Although IIRC they're all *technically* military since the astronaut corps training is partially military-run, just not of military background,

Anonymous No. 16454267

>>16454263
>Estimation theory
Ah yes, the major of every Chinese engineer.

Anonymous No. 16454279

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxKzpajLbYto7sN4JayIcanKSeunzSkAtN

Anonymous No. 16454281

>>16453851
For those wondering: they abandoned shackleton because no suitable landing site could be found. Starship can't survive a 1.5 degree incline on landing

Anonymous No. 16454283

>>16454281
Hopefully blue moon MK2 can land there.

Anonymous No. 16454286

>>16454281
without wanting to go against what burgerman says, surely it can't be that hard to build self levelling legs for lunar gravity

Anonymous No. 16454290

>people correctly predicted that there would be one female taikonaut based on the morphology in flight suit in one blurry picture
Can't hide that...

Anonymous No. 16454298

>>16454279
shoo shill

Anonymous No. 16454303

>>16454286
put a few mirrors in orbit and melt roggs to make a flat spot

Anonymous No. 16454305

>>16454303
you said that before you stupid fuck

Anonymous No. 16454307

>>16454286
They should shoot a self levelling structure/rod into the lunar surface then land on it.

Anonymous No. 16454308

>>16454305
thank you for paying attention
any particular reason it wouldn't work, or you just think it's impractical?

I know almost nothing about rocks

Anonymous No. 16454315

>>16454308
shine mirrors at the rocks in your back yard and see what happens

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Anonymous No. 16454327

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/28/jeff-bezos-washington-post-trust/

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Anonymous No. 16454333

Can someone post the swastika edit

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>>16454333
funnily enough the swastika edit was the only version I had

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Anonymous No. 16454349

Wow

Anonymous No. 16454350

>>16454341
yes, "edit"

Anonymous No. 16454353

>>16454349
Yikes

Anonymous No. 16454355

>>16454349
>has to specify that the skeletons are evil
how PC are these people? of course skeletons are evil.

>this just in, Felon Muskrat disrupts indigenous non-binary skeletons ecosystem (onscreen)

Anonymous No. 16454356

>>16454327
>But the fact is, I didn't know about the meeting beforehand
>Even Limp didn't know about it in advance
Lmao there's no way Jeff didn't know.

Anonymous No. 16454357

>>16454315
thanks, asshole
my backyard is now a pit of boiling lava

Anonymous No. 16454360

>>16454355
>of course skeletons are evil.
wtf, rude.

Anonymous No. 16454362

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16454363

>>16454355
my grandpa is not evil

Anonymous No. 16454364

no fuck you

Anonymous No. 16454365

idiot

Anonymous No. 16454367

Indeed, kudos to @JeffBezos

Anonymous No. 16454373

how will they likely build a landing pad for starship hls? you're going to need alot of concrete.

Anonymous No. 16454376

>>16454363
No but his skeleton is. Original sin is stored in the bones.

Anonymous No. 16454378

>>16454373
ship the concrete to the moon on a starship hls.

Anonymous No. 16454380

>>16454373
just launch a couple dozen ships with premixed concrete in the payload bay, and be quick getting to the moon so it doesn't set in the payload bay.

Anonymous No. 16454383

>>16454373
build it out of tarmac

Anonymous No. 16454386

>>16454373
bring epoxy to mix with regolith

Anonymous No. 16454387

>>16454373
use the descend engines to lift off a bit before lighting the raptors

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Anonymous No. 16454388

>One of the winner of the chinese "COTS/CRS" is a spaceplane by the ADRI 611 subdivision of Chengdu Aerospace
Kewl
They recently made the WZ-8 hypersonic rocket plane so I'm sure they could do something fine.

Anonymous No. 16454392

>>16454376
He could've had his skeleton baptised you don't know

Anonymous No. 16454398

>>16454355
The language is chosen for emotive purposes. It's supposed to evoke the feeling in the reader that Elon Musk is childish.

Anonymous No. 16454405

>>16454373
just melt the surface of the moon with a laser or a large lens or some mirrors
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-42008-1

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Anonymous No. 16454407

>>16454405
kinda slow

Anonymous No. 16454411

>>16454373
Forget the landing pad, the EPA will require a full water deluge system on the moon.

Anonymous No. 16454422

>>16454411
Liar

Anonymous No. 16454425

>>16454422
think of all the wildlife it'll disrupt

Anonymous No. 16454428

the moon belongs to all people, therefore it should be kept in a state of preservation to ensure it's religious heritage and natural beauty. all colonies will have to be located underground on the far side of the moon.

Anonymous No. 16454429

>>16454422
>>16454425
They'll have to import piping plovers. Then an atmosphere for the piping plovers. Then a new batch of piping plovers (unasphyxiated).

Then do an environmental impact statement of HLS takeoffs on the environment of those piping plovers.

Anonymous No. 16454430

>>16454407
>13cm2 a minute

OK but what thickness that's pretty important. Bet it wasn't thick at all. Have to do pass after pass. Need a gigantic fuck off setup to do it in a reasonable time. Which sounds cool.

Anonymous No. 16454432

>>16454428
no, the moon belongs to America, and anxiously awaits the arrival of our astro-men.

Anonymous No. 16454440

>>16454327
The comments contain more salt than the oceans of Europa

Anonymous No. 16454449

>>16454440
the "bezos kowtowed to trump's threat" angle is monumentally stupid. "my wife wasn't sleeping around, she was raped" level of cope.
no, she is a whore, and jeff bezos prefers not to pay tax on unrealized capital gains.

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Anonymous No. 16454458

>>16454055

Anonymous No. 16454459

>>16454458
is it because it looks like labia minora?

Anonymous No. 16454460

>>16454459
Kys

Anonymous No. 16454464

Leon will get locked up for his illegal voter scheme and SpaceX will follow suit with the FAA grounding its fleet and the FTC suing for monopolistic operations.

Anonymous No. 16454472

>>16454460
why? isnt that literally the point of the meme, that the plane looks like a vagina?

Anonymous No. 16454479

>>16454459
Sounds like some hentia shit

Anonymous No. 16454483

>>16454428
>the moon belongs to all people
no

Anonymous No. 16454487

>>16454483
Yes it does. You have no say in this.

Anonymous No. 16454489

>>16454487
wrong again. its "belonging" is the same as any other part of the cosmos, think Earth

Anonymous No. 16454493

is that fag that said he was leaving 4chan forever because he couldnt wait 15 minutes between ban evading still here?

Anonymous No. 16454500

The moon belongs to whoever can take and hold it

Anonymous No. 16454508

The moon belongs to me

Anonymous No. 16454510

>>16454500
>>16454508
Native Americans can curse you for this blasphemy
The moon is not a graveyard to bury the dead.

Anonymous No. 16454517

>>16454510
Aboriginal Australians already have burial sites on the moon.

Anonymous No. 16454520

>>16454517
The Maori held rights over it long before the aboriginals did

Anonymous No. 16454521

>>16454517
this comment has me thinking about in the distant future, when there are asteroid mining companies headquartered in australia that still have to check in with the local abo corporation to see if they're allowed to mine a certain celestial body or if it has cultural value (the body will always be claimed to have value even if there is no historical record of the abos ever having known it existed)

Anonymous No. 16454523

>>16454521
Yeah I was thinking about that last night mate, but more in terms of Australia being the best site to de-orbit asteroids into (but abbos will cry about it falling on their ancestor no matter where it lands).

Anonymous No. 16454537

>>16454521
In the distant future earth will be an asteroid bombarded wasteland so I don't see that being an issue

Anonymous No. 16454539

>>16454520
The Maori literally beat the sun so it would go slower in the sky
Based

Anonymous No. 16454543

>>16454508
Sounds good anon, hope u can hold it with ultraviolence. I'll join ur nation if it's chill.

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Anonymous No. 16454548

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxsFodjVbs4
>SpaceX's Next-Gen Starship Rolls Out | Starbase Update

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Anonymous No. 16454549

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiaJA4Zlojw
>Rocket Lab Founder Peter Beck reveals his vision for the space industry's future | TC Disrupt 2024

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Anonymous No. 16454550

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T46xBXK7N4
>That Was Quick! SpaceX Already Static Fires Their Flight 6 Booster! - SpaceX Weekly #138

Anonymous No. 16454557

>>16454548
>>16454549
>>16454550
Buy

A

Fucking

Advert

Anonymous No. 16454560

>>16454557
tankwatching is literally why this general was started

Anonymous No. 16454562

>>16454560
Find something more worth our time

Anonymous No. 16454563

>>16454562
are you retarded?

Anonymous No. 16454565

>>16454560
Yeah it was cool when it was ghetto streams from a retard or two watching dirt become a launch complex. Not uncountable grifters posting their gay shit.

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Anonymous No. 16454566

>>16454548
spacex might do a full replacement of the tiles, previously they had only replaced tiles and added ablative around the forward and aft flap "fairings"
but they have started to replace the flap surfaces and tank surfaces now at least to some extent

Anonymous No. 16454569

>>16454565
okay so what do you think is the point of this thread now? or is the problem simply the youtubers?

Anonymous No. 16454572

>>16454566
It's ITAR to the extreme but I want to know how TUFROC stacks up to Avcoat and Pica-X, thunderdome style

Anonymous No. 16454573

>>16452967
x.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1850692969906524174

Anonymous No. 16454574

>>16454569
The point of the thread is to talk about spaceflight. Not to spam gay grifter links.

Anonymous No. 16454576

>>16453725
less than the number of Starlinks that exist lol

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Anonymous No. 16454579

>>16454574
>talk about spaceflight
>no not like that

Anonymous No. 16454583

How many more times do you think Starship will be stretched? 2 is a tiny stretch, 3 is a significant stretch but I suspect they might stretch it two more times before finally freezing the design.

Anonymous No. 16454586

>>16454583
3 seems close to maximum but they might not get there during one iteration step
I think you the different types of starship are going to be differing lengths

Anonymous No. 16454590

>>16454572
TUFROC looks to be superior, if only for the fact that it might be able to reuse it for one more flight.
PICA-X
>https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20140005558
AVCOAT
>https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19680021275
>page 32 is interesting
TUFROC
>https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20190030273

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Anonymous No. 16454594

>>16454327
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1851077429709951349

Anonymous No. 16454596

>>16454579
I've got a cool website for you called reddit.com frogposter

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Anonymous No. 16454597

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1851017442585092117

Anonymous No. 16454598

>>16454597
Starlink still gonna be raping the quiet zones. They are just beam forming to avoid the astroniggers. Earth is fucked anyway.

Anonymous No. 16454599

>>16454596
when was the last time you actually talked about spaceflight? like substance, not shitposting

Anonymous No. 16454600

>>16454599
About one post ago, unlike your grifter spam

Anonymous No. 16454601

>>16454597
Just fucking put them in space already.

Anonymous No. 16454604

>>16454599
When did (you) last post about spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16454606

>>16454600
spamming nigger nigger nigger is shitposting

Anonymous No. 16454609

>>16454606
Looks like you make up 3/7 uses of nigger in this thread

Anonymous No. 16454614

>>16454604
I'll stop posting alltogether for a few weeks, not like much discussion is going on anyway

Anonymous No. 16454624

>>16452967
>>16454573
neat

Anonymous No. 16454626

>>16454573
it's going to be catgirls, isn't it

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Anonymous No. 16454647

>>16454626
https://vocaroo.com/1iikP796Lwuh

Anonymous No. 16454667

>>16454590
>if only for the fact that it might be able to reuse it for one more flight.
its an improved shuttle tile with a thick protective coating. hence the TUF

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Anonymous No. 16454680

The Moon is so bland and boring bros, why are we wasting our time

Anonymous No. 16454681

>>16454680
the moon is a quarry for our voyages to the stars. we could strip mine the moon in the most destructive ways possible and it will still be better than when we started

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16454687

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/for-some-reason-nasa-is-treating-orions-heat-shield-problems-as-a-secret/
>Another report released by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) in June said a preliminary analysis of the heat shield problem suggested to engineers that "the permeability of the material was lower than their models had indicated."
Once again, GAO reveals what nasa tries to keep secret. God bless.
With this nugget of new info I think I got a good idea of whats going on with the heatshield. Heat penetrating deeper into an ablative heatshield would cause pockets of superheated gas to build up under the surface and eventually pop like a pimple. Just like I expected this isn't an issue that can be solved by just rejiggering the entry angle, gonna need a full heatshield redesign.

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Anonymous No. 16454689

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/for-some-reason-nasa-is-treating-orions-heat-shield-problems-as-a-secret/
>Another report released by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) in June said a preliminary analysis of the heat shield problem suggested to engineers that "the permeability of the material was lower than their models had indicated."
Once again, GAO reveals what nasa tries to keep secret. God bless.
With this nugget of new info I think I got a good idea of whats going on with the heatshield. Heat penetrating deeper into an ablative heatshield would cause pockets of superheated gas to build up under the surface and eventually pop like a pimple. Just like I expected this isn't an issue that can be solved by just rejiggering the entry angle, gonna need a full heatshield redesign.
>forgot image

Anonymous No. 16454691

>>16454681
wont you think of the tides??

Anonymous No. 16454703

>>16454557
Retard

Anonymous No. 16454709

>>16454691
kek

but in seriousness we can remove a fraction of the moons mass for construction, but shouldnt take more than 10%. If we do then the axial tilt of the earth will become unstable

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Anonymous No. 16454719

>[Docking diagram! #We have a space shuttle ใ€‘"HaoLong "cargo space shuttle has a large cargo up and down capacity, excellent flight environment and disposal guarantee efficiency, can further reduce the cost of space station cargo transport through multiple re-use, and with the existing cargo transport system to build a safe, reliable, diversified, flexible and efficient space station heaven and earth Together with the existing cargo transport system, it will build a safe, reliable, diversified, flexible and efficient space station cargo transport system, and actively contribute aviation wisdom and aviation power to China's manned space project. It is revealed in advance that the "Haolong" model will make its debut at the 15th Airshow of China, where it will be displayed in a comprehensive manner at the Commercial Air & Space Booth of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC). See you at the airshow [love you] [love you] #HaoLong Space Shuttle Aviation made #Small Flyer take you to see the airshow

Chinese are making a space shuttle

https://m.weibo.cn/status/5094914226128953

Anonymous No. 16454721

>>16454709
>10% of the moon
That's double the mass of the entire asteroid belt including the big ones
Asteroid mining faggots btfo once again

Anonymous No. 16454722

>>16454719
>China makes dreamchaser first
wasn't on my bingo card

Anonymous No. 16454725

>>16454709
if they just take it from the far side no one will care

Anonymous No. 16454732

>>16454722
>dreamchaser
It looks more like an X-37B knockoff

Anonymous No. 16454736

>>16454732
>>16454722
Either way, China making an equivalent hardware option ahead of the the commercial option first and launching it would be the ultimate brown nosing moment for non-SpaceX american aerospace.

Anonymous No. 16454752

>>16454689
imagine flying back from the moon with a heat shield worse than the Apollo missions

Anonymous No. 16454753

>>16454736
i dont give a shit. shut up about being mean about dream chaser. you arent team space.

Anonymous No. 16454754

>>16454722
>>16454732
Hasn't Dreamchaser been 'almost ready' for like a few years?

Anonymous No. 16454756

>>16454753
I'm team space EXploration.

Anonymous No. 16454757

What is the work culture like at NASA? Can I read somewhere about it?

Anonymous No. 16454762

>>16454757
The post office but with STEM people

Anonymous No. 16454768

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16454769

>>16453573
she's not flat tho

Anonymous No. 16454771

>>16454689
Its called "mal information". Information that is true but harmful if people hear it as they may form their own opinions that is counter to the official government narrative.

Anonymous No. 16454780

>>16454757
Good summary here. Rant starts at 31:32. Unfortunately the reddit faggot hosts interrupt him several times
https://www.youtube.com/live/Jd2oVbt_Z_U?t=1892&si=Kca7qXhHLX5QAeyN

Anonymous No. 16454809

>>16454780
Jesus Christ, those 3d soijaks are so fucking annoying. Just let the man talk.

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Anonymous No. 16454825

Don't doubt ULA

Anonymous No. 16454828

>>16454825
Is Vulcan basically dead once New Glenn becomes operational?

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Anonymous No. 16454830

>DoD is raising its Proliferated Low Earth Orbit (PLEO) Satellite-Based Services program from an initial $900 million ceiling to a projected $13 billion
lel

https://spacenews.com/pentagons-commercial-satellite-internet-services-program-soars-to-13-billion/

Anonymous No. 16454831

>>16454828
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

Anonymous No. 16454834

>>16454830
smart stones

Anonymous No. 16454835

>>16454830
This is actually a good thing

Anonymous No. 16454838

>>16454757
Casey handmer's blog. or watch the recent offnom. it's a nightmare

Anonymous No. 16454842

>>16454689
Yeah it looks bad but it would have totally been survivable. Maybe it will be survivable again.
I say make no changes and fly the second mission with crew.

Anonymous No. 16454843

>>16454780
not watching but I know its casey handjob because you faggots suck him off so much and his scam clean energy business.

Anonymous No. 16454849

>>16454780
his mention of cost of living is interesting.
that's actually a big boon for spacex employees looking to work at starbase.
cost of living in or near brownsville is way cheaper than most of those tech centers out there.

Anonymous No. 16454850

>>16454830
I see this as a massive handout to Blue Origin.
Just bribe congress, they will fund your stupid rocket and Kuiper constellation. Jesus Christ, its so obvious that this is a Jeff Bezos paycheck for his fucking lame 3rd tier me-too rocket and satellite technology. But that doesn't matter when you use your money for evil now, does it?
SpaceX will do 80% of the heavy lifting, Blue Origin will do 20% but collect 80% of the funds, mark my fucking words

Anonymous No. 16454856

>>16454850
Itโ€™s cool that youโ€™re assmad but most of that money is probably going to starshield.

Anonymous No. 16454859

anyone got that picture of musk in a spacesuit and trump sitting next to him?

Anonymous No. 16454862

>>16454842
Sure the main support beam of the bridge cracked halfway and it looks bad, but that family SUV would have totally survived, maybe it will survive again.
I say make no changes and send the school bus across.

Anonymous No. 16454864

>>16454862
They knew the risks inherent to the job when they signed up to be schoolchildren.

Anonymous No. 16454865

>>16454842
>>16454862
>>16454864
Astronauts are super expendable, literally a million people in line to take their place.
Risk criteria should be loosened so a loss-of-crew occurrence is 1 in 10.
Don't like it? Sorry bro, shouldn't have been an astronaut then. Stay on the ground, and never leave the house without a helmet if they're risk-adverse pussies.

Anonymous No. 16454873

I never understood the reusable astronauts meme

Anonymous No. 16454881

>>16454873
If you only hire guys with 6 PhDs you can slow things down and ask for more money because they're too important to risk. Keep in mind NASA's real incentives

Anonymous No. 16454883

flashy feldspars

Anonymous No. 16454885

>>16454873
Men on mars get so much easier when you accept that itโ€™s a one way trip.

Anonymous No. 16454889

NASA hungers for more dead astronauts

Anonymous No. 16454892

What Ketamine dose did he take for this speech?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6osJYjs1TRE

Anonymous No. 16454893

That Puerto Rican joke is gonna cost him the election isnt it. Elon and SpaceX will be fucked sideways by the FAA afterwards

Anonymous No. 16454894

>>16454893
This isn't working and your team should pivot away from it.

Anonymous No. 16454895

>>16454892
he's just acting like a normal autist in an overstimulating environment. source: i have extensive experience both being an autist in public and being high on psychedelics in public.

Anonymous No. 16454896

>>16454894
>>16454894

Anonymous No. 16454898

we should turn puerto rico into one giant launchpad

Anonymous No. 16454900

>>16454892
Man what the hell, this is like I'm watching pro wrestling

Anonymous No. 16454901

>>16454898
>In conclusion, while Puerto Rico has some natural advantages for rocket launches, transforming the entire island into a launch facility is not feasible due to numerous practical, environmental, and social considerations. A more balanced approach where space activities coexist with other developments would likely be more sustainable and beneficial for all stakeholders involved.
grok disagreed with me. it doesn't the the vision I do

Anonymous No. 16454903

>>16454900
It appeals to Americans

Anonymous No. 16454904

>>16454895
I love the man but don't kid yourself. K is going to start being a real problem for the Mars city

Anonymous No. 16454905

>>16454898
What a retarded idea.
We should turn Puerto Rico into several normal sized launch pads.

Anonymous No. 16454906

>>16454895
>high on psychedelics in public.
jealous, I hope to do my first acid test at the halloween parade. Sure to be something I'll never forget.

Anonymous No. 16454907

The Grok and the election could turn out to be major failures

Anonymous No. 16454910

>>16454906
>voluntarily MK-ultraing oneslef

Anonymous No. 16454912

>>16454910
Worked out great for ken kesey

Anonymous No. 16454914

>>16454903
I actually mean the audience too, everyone's constantly cheering and shit. It's shot so similarly too, guy cutting a promo and then a bunch of spectators cheering behind him lol. Just need to put someone through a table

Anonymous No. 16454915

>>16454892
ketamine is a an anesthetic dissociative retard

Anonymous No. 16454916

>>16454893
literally no one cares about Puerto Rico and anyone who has had to deal with people from there can relate to what he said.

Anonymous No. 16454917

>>16454895
ketamine is not a psychedelic

Anonymous No. 16454918

>>16454906
That seems like a dreadful idea kek, but you're probably right about never forgetting it. Never tried acid myself, it seems like a lot with how long it lasts

Anonymous No. 16454920

>>16454915
and people still do it when they go to parties. You must live under a rock

Anonymous No. 16454921

>>16454918
NTA but yeah, I've had a few tabs sitting in my stashbox for like a year because setting aside a whole day is difficult when you have a life, and you DO need a whole day cleared up.

Anonymous No. 16454922

>>16454918
I'll be with friends who'll tard wrangle me, it'll be fine.

Anonymous No. 16454925

Methamphetamine is the engineer's drug

Anonymous No. 16454926

>>16454916
500k of them in Pennsylvania.

Anonymous No. 16454927

Wild how there's more people having psychotic breaks than ever, there's zombies filling the street, and tech guys are still like
>yeah man drugs are good for you
You fucking retards got psyoped into zapping your own noggin

Anonymous No. 16454928

>>16454927
you sum it up well. And all the people that are into psychedelics are weird.

Anonymous No. 16454930

>>16454927
I actually feel like there were more zombies a few years ago. Theyโ€™ve ben mostly cleaned up, at least in my neck of the woods.

Anonymous No. 16454932

>>16454920
Yup and they don't act like Musk at MSG when they do

Anonymous No. 16454933

>>16454925
Dusters are the programmers drug.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16454934

>>16454921
Yeah, shrooms are cool because it lasts for like four hours, 12+ seems a bit much especially if it turns out shitty

Anonymous No. 16454935

>>16454927
HE SMOKES WEED

Anonymous No. 16454938

>>16454934
Legit only got the acid cause it costs like half the price of the shrooms he was selling, probably for this exact reason lel.

Anonymous No. 16454940

>>16454927
>>16454928
if me abstaining would somehow affect the enforcement of vagrancy and trafficking laws in states i don't live in then i'd happily do it. but if ernst junger is weird then that's to the discredit of normalfags everywhere.
>>16454934
and once you get to a certain age the prospect of losing a night of sleep because you took it too late in the day becomes scarier than the prospect of a bad trip

Anonymous No. 16454941

>>16454597
>>16454830
i can already hear the astronomers screaming

Anonymous No. 16454942

/sfg/ Smoking Fent General

Anonymous No. 16454943

>>16454940
>once you get to a certain age the prospect of losing a night of sleep because you took it too late in the day becomes scarier than the prospect of a bad trip
Lol this is so bad for me, I get CEVs with weed, can't sleep at all when I'm on it.

Anonymous No. 16454944

>faggot lefts always seethe and cry about "poltards"
>but give them a minute and they'll spam the thread about the half dozen drugs they use
grim

Anonymous No. 16454945

>>16454944
yep, just like elon

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16454946

NO POLITICS OKAY IM GOING TO YELL TO JANNY BUT UH ANYONE ELSE LIKE DOING FENT VIA THEIR BALLSACK????

Anonymous No. 16454947

>>16454946
>>16454944
why is this guy having a melty again?
can someone get this guy a medic?

Anonymous No. 16454948

>>16452751
The Everyday Astronaut BO tour has made me somewhat less of a BO hater. Though while O'Neill cyliders are pretty cool it still smells like a hideout for the elites once shtf.
>>16453492
A sphere has the minimum surface area for a given amount of volume and thus spherical tanks are the lightest for a given volume. When we get to composite tanks also complicated fibre composite things.

Anonymous No. 16454949

>>16454947
Gonna prescribe me some oxy?

Anonymous No. 16454950

the berger article made me realize how far away starship is from going to the moon and mars, but also how close it is at the same time. six years is a long time, but then you realize that we're ONLY six years away from space colonies.

Anonymous No. 16454951

>whoa us taking heroin in our asshole is on topic OKAY CHUD

Anonymous No. 16454952

HOW CAN THIS BE BEATING US HE SMOKES FENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16454953

>>16454757
>work
>NASA
Seriously?

Anonymous No. 16454955

>>16454948
>smells like a hideout for the elites once shtf.
And thatโ€™s a good thing. Elysium was about how desperately we need to get away from the dirty rats that are poor people.

Anonymous No. 16454956

>>16454950
It's an odd feeling. On the one hand, I want it to be done now. On the other hand, "done" means a truly sustainable presence in space for all time. The genie doesn't go back in the bottle. China would aspire to it, other companies would aspire to it. It's the hardest part of operating in space solved, because every problem downstream can be solved with more mass. Normies online talk like it's a lunar lander, but it's a human presence in space for eternity.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16454957

>>16454948
this dude loves the hustle and bustle of the city with fent zombies shitting on the street outside your door

Anonymous No. 16454958

>>16454944
I told you we'd produce recreational drugs on Mars. I told you, I was right, you will not stop us.

Anonymous No. 16454962

>>16454958
yeah and free air and water for all too comrade

Anonymous No. 16454964

>>16454955
Most of those elites are terrible people and I want them dead.
>>16454957
lmao, imagine living in a US city
I've a squirrel buddy living on a tree right outside my window.

Anonymous No. 16454965

I hate all of you

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Anonymous No. 16454966

>>16454948
Even with free rockets an O'Neil cylinder doesn't make sense. Also if I wanted to see Brunelleschi's Dome I would just go to Florence instead of risking my life to see BO's plastic replica in orbit. The vision is nonsense

Anonymous No. 16454968

>>16454966
how do you know bezos didn't buy the real dome and move it?

Anonymous No. 16454969

>>16454966
your soul is weighed down by gravity.

Anonymous No. 16454970

>>16454950
blud really thinks we are having space colonies with 20T to the moon starship :skull:

Anonymous No. 16454972

thank you

Anonymous No. 16454973

>>16454970
you gotta start somewhere. even a small outpost counts as long as its permanent and growing.

Anonymous No. 16454974

in oneil cylinder / von braun wheel, could you just move the opposite direction the ground is spinning at the same speed to be weightless? If it's that easy to fly why don't I ever see that in concept paintings? Then if you had structures in the center that didn't spin you could actually use the interior volume instead of it just being "sky"

Anonymous No. 16454975

>>16454973
tell me how you feel about the international space station.

Anonymous No. 16454977

>>16454975
fuck that tell me how I should feel about the international space station

Anonymous No. 16454978

>>16454949
no, some valium, or whatever bipolar people need.

Anonymous No. 16454980

>>16454974
too lazy to do the math, but I suspect you can't run that fast. and you would loose grip as you get faster.

Anonymous No. 16454982

>>16454975
i like the iss but space stations are different because they're not permanent. maybe one day they'll be built to last hundreds or thousands of years like >>16454966 but for now they're temporary.

Anonymous No. 16454984

>>16454974
Oneill thought of that. He wrote about human powered aircraft as a form of sport/ recreation on his islands. To me it seems absurdly dangerous because to be weightless is to have the ground moving under you at the speed of a bullet train.

Anonymous No. 16454985

>>16454966
imagine how many leaks that would have from micro meteorite impacts

Anonymous No. 16454986

>>16454974
>If it's that easy to fly why don't I ever see that in concept paintings?
because the point of an o'neil cylinder is that it's a spaceship where you DON'T fly. there was one episode of babylon 5 where they did something like this but i think it was too confusing for the audience.

Anonymous No. 16454988

>>16454962
All native Martians will have an inherent God-given right to breath and hydrate, it will be part of the Martian constitution.

Anonymous No. 16454995

>>16454984
The atmosphere will be rotating, too. You'd get pulled "up to speed" as you approached the "ground"

Anonymous No. 16454996

>>16454893
When late night comedians are mocking democrats for clutching their pearls you know it was dead on arrival.

Also note how they pivoted away from making Nazi rally analogies.

Anonymous No. 16454997

In the Mars case
>Earth gets completely destroyed
>Industrial human civilization lives on to conquer the stars
In the O'Neil cylinder case
>Minor recession or war on Earth
>Resupply gets too expensive to be worth it and the place is abandoned

Anonymous No. 16455000

>>16454997
You're an idiot
>In the actual oneil cylinder case
>earth destroyed
>Cylinders began asteroid mining and all continues as normal

Anonymous No. 16455001

>>16454997
>>16455000
the important part is earth getting completely destroyed. the rest is details.

Anonymous No. 16455003

>>16454985
That station in the picture is at least a hundred km in diameter, you'd think large sheets of synthetic diamond windows would be easy by then

Anonymous No. 16455007

>>16455003
sapphire would be easier to produce from lunar materials.

Anonymous No. 16455008

>>16455003
you're either assuming very big humans or very small kilometers i think

Anonymous No. 16455010

>>16455008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMiKyfd6hA0

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Anonymous No. 16455011

>shenzhou is launching in a couple of hours
>zero discussion about it on /sfg/
spaceflight general? more like spacex general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tQBX-iEt-M

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Anonymous No. 16455012

>>16454948
>>16454955

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>>16455008
They should just send tiny people to space and save on mass

Anonymous No. 16455015

>>16454062
the Ara-ariane 5

Anonymous No. 16455017

>>16454995
You'd still have terminal velocity parallel to the ground, so about 200km/h. more than enough to absolutely ruin your day.
>>16455003
looks more like 5-10km, maybe 20

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Anonymous No. 16455018

>>16455003
Windows probably won't happen, light pipes are easier and safer

Anonymous No. 16455019

>>16455003
wth are diamond windows gonna do against space debris?
it's traveling super fast and the large size of an O'Neil cylinder makes getting hit by one far likelier than a smaller station

Anonymous No. 16455021

>>16455000
>asteroid mining
oh no no no no

Anonymous No. 16455022

>>16454986
>video calling a girl who lives on an Oneil cylinder
>So you see I'm standing on the ground now, but if I want to get fucked in all my holes with a flying zero g gangbang with my robot bulls I just ride my bicycle that way
>wait thats really weird you can fly? what?

Anonymous No. 16455023

>>16454997
>>16455000
>earth destroyed

mine earth problem solved

Anonymous No. 16455024

>>16454121
it's not even >>>/pol/
he is just wrong.
>>16454119
Schwarzbraun ist die Haselnuss.
>>16455019
The holes will be tiny and I guess we'll need a process to fix them, but that isn't an impossibility.

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Anonymous No. 16455025

>>16455023
Consider the following

Anonymous No. 16455026

>>16455021
did you fall for the โ€œasteroid mining is a memeโ€ meme?
Its not cost competitive for terrestrial use but in space at that scale it absolutely is.

Anonymous No. 16455027

>>16455022
>so anyway, we've been talking 5 minutes, here's my venmo

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Anonymous No. 16455028

>>16455021
If it's impossible then humans are confined to the Earth and Mars. Is this your contention?

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>>16454940
>the prospect of a bad trip
I've experienced levels of fear I thought were not possible.

Anonymous No. 16455034

>>16455025
read it again

Anonymous No. 16455035

>>16454978
they need antipsychotics, same thing people that believe Musk schedules need.

Anonymous No. 16455036

>>16454922
You have no idea what's coming

Anonymous No. 16455040

>>16454964
>I've a squirrel buddy living on a tree right outside my window.
Oak tree?

Anonymous No. 16455042

>>16455011
Make it the edition of the next thread so we can continue to ignore it.

Anonymous No. 16455043

we need a chinese eric berger

Anonymous No. 16455045

>>16455028
This is not true. Launching things from Mars is easy. Industrialized Mars opens up the stars. Also
>if it were true it would make me sad :(
is not a good argument
>>16455026
You need to process the stuff too. Unless you're fully self sustaining, Earth is involved. You need the machines to maintain or replicate your station with undifferentiated space rocks as the input. This is a tall order. I don't see something like that being built just to hang out, I'm sure it'll happen but it'll immediately be propelled towards Epsilon Eridani

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>>16454938
your dealer is a fag. lemme know if u need something cheap

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Anonymous No. 16455050

>>16455045
>Industrialized Mars opens up the stars
No, only an industrialised solar system does that. Mars is too earthlike to teach us what we need to know

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>>16455046
fuck off with your faggy mushrooms

Anonymous No. 16455055

>>16455050
Lol we tried learning about deep space travel from a space station and look where that got us

Anonymous No. 16455057

Reminder that druggie bottomfeeders wngts.

Anonymous No. 16455058

>>16455057
reminder that
>In 2018, for example, he took multiple tabs of acid at a party he hosted in Los Angeles. The next year he partied on magic mushrooms at an event in Mexico. In 2021, he took ketamine recreationally with his brother, Kimbal Musk, in Miami at a house party during Art Basel. He has taken illegal drugs with current SpaceX and former Tesla board member Steve Jurvetson.

Anonymous No. 16455059

>>16455058
Reminder that Musk wngts himself

Anonymous No. 16455060

>>16455040
Not much of a tree guy but if I think it's a maple. Never actually thought about it before and I can't really check in the dark.

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Anonymous No. 16455062

>anons suddenly shocked to learn that people who dream of the stars often like to get high
lol, lmao even

Anonymous No. 16455067

>>16455062
You dream of it but will flip burgers on Earth for the rest of your life

Anonymous No. 16455068

>>16454719
>a space shuttle
not a space shuttle but I see why they play that up for propaganda purposes. its just a rip off of dreamchaser which will fly first.

Anonymous No. 16455072

very federal conversation going on right now i see. hows your workday going boys, catch any incels to jail or have you been reassigned to this board because of previous failures to meet quota

Anonymous No. 16455074

>>16455062
>a sativa is a cerebral, joe rogan type high
>you'll be seeing galaxies in your head and doing math equations
>>16455058
Musk likely has acquired savant syndrome due to getting smacked around as a kid. The LAST thing we need is him rewiring or "fixing" his brain

Anonymous No. 16455075

>>16455011
once youve seen one of these youve seen them all. ill watch when it launches incase it blows up.

Anonymous No. 16455076

>>16455067
No u

Anonymous No. 16455080

>>16455074
>Musk likely has acquired savant syndrome due to getting smacked around as a kid.
source?

Anonymous No. 16455082

>>16455046
I mean thanks but it's not like the shrooms were expensive. I really think he just gave me the acid for so cheap cause he couldn't sell it.

Anonymous No. 16455086

>>16455074
regardless, it's not as if he started doing drugs at the age of 47. that's just when people started keeping track of it because of the rogan podcast.

Anonymous No. 16455092

>>16454982
a moon base is literally just a space station on a large object

Anonymous No. 16455093

>>16455092
my house is a slightly drafty moon base

Anonymous No. 16455100

>>16455092
maybe if you're a surfacecuck, us tunnelchads will enjoy the riches our Moon gives.

Anonymous No. 16455101

>>16455100
Surface base for excursions outside, tunnels for cozy living underneath.

Anonymous No. 16455102

>>16455093
is your house able to hold 760 torr of pressure with no leaks and recyle all the air you breathe and water from your piss?

Anonymous No. 16455103

>>16455102
He said it was drafty.

Anonymous No. 16455106

>>16455103
your dad was drafty when i fed him full of beans and did anal

Anonymous No. 16455107

Very poor post

Anonymous No. 16455109

fuck you

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Anonymous No. 16455123

what went wrong

Anonymous No. 16455125

>>16455123
they designed it to fly around on earth instead of flying around in space. rookie mistake.

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Anonymous No. 16455126

At what point does Mars develop enough that tariffs on Earth goods are the main source of revenue

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Anonymous No. 16455132

>>16455123

Anonymous No. 16455135

>>16455101
Are Moon dwellers Hobbits?

Anonymous No. 16455137

i just realized that a moonbase is going to need at least two landing pads with one rocket always fueled up and ready to launch in case they need to evacuate

Anonymous No. 16455139

>>16455137
Why would you need to evacuate?

Anonymous No. 16455140

>>16455135
We will be, yes
>>16455139
Enemy attack

Anonymous No. 16455142

>>16455139
who knows, im just extrapolating from the ISS since the moon base is going to be a NASA base first and foremost

Anonymous No. 16455144

>>16455123
fuel consumption and noise

Anonymous No. 16455145

>>16454830
genius gravel

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Anonymous No. 16455149

>>16454830
luminous particles

Anonymous No. 16455151

>>16455137
evacuation is impossible kek. any minopr medical issue will lead to the death of the crew.

Anonymous No. 16455152

>>16455017
>You'd still have terminal velocity parallel to the ground
terminal velocity occurs when the force due to gravity equals the force due to air resistance
why would you reach "terminal velocity" parallel to the ground? what is the force balancing air resistance?

Anonymous No. 16455154

Someone push us to page 10

Anonymous No. 16455155

>>16455126
wouldnt making money off tariffs require a large consumer population that companies are desperate to sell to? Like if I'm an Earth company that makes electronics wouldnt I just export to other countries on Earth will perhaps billions of consumers? Even if Mars had millions of people the tarriffs on top of insane transport costs dont seem worth it.

Anonymous No. 16455156

>>16452715
IT'S TIME FOR STAGING!


STAGING!!!
>>16450266
>>16450266
>>16450266
STAGING!!!

Anonymous No. 16455158

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16455160

let it be known that we are on page 9

Anonymous No. 16455162

>>16455142
Just have an independent emergency shelter in case of life support failure on the main station
>>16455140
>We will be
I am OK with this.
>>16455152
good point. however depending on how fast or slow you approach the "ground" the air velocity will increase. depending on your closure rate it might be better or worse for your body.

Anonymous No. 16455170

>>16455156
I almost went full autist there

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Anonymous No. 16455173

>>16455011
T-10:00

Anonymous No. 16455174

>>16455156
Obviously a major malfunction.

Anonymous No. 16455176

>>16455011
I'll peep it. Maybe they die.

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Anonymous No. 16455177

slightly more spacious than soyuz

Anonymous No. 16455180

>>16455177
or the taikonauts are slightly smaller than cosmonauts

Anonymous No. 16455181

>>16455177
smol yellow astronauts

Anonymous No. 16455182

>>16455180
russians are also small

Anonymous No. 16455183

>>16455180
Cosmonauts have always been on the smaller side. Standards opened up a bit after NASA astronauts started flying on the Soyuz-TMA but Star City's never been in the habit of recruiting the biggest guys Russia produces.

Anonymous No. 16455187

Small Soyuz capsulet was not big enough to accommodate large American astronauts.

Anonymous No. 16455189

This is Shenzhou-19? Did How many of those previous 19 were crew rotations to their station?

Anonymous No. 16455193

>>16455189
12 was the first.

Anonymous No. 16455194

>>16455177
>>16455180
>>16455183
The chinese did in fact scale up Soyuz.

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Anonymous No. 16455196

>>16455189
1-4 were unmanned test flights, 5-7 were free orbiting tests with crew, 8 was an unmanned docking test to Tiangong-1, 9-11 sent crew to Tiangong-1 and 2, and 12 was the first one to their current Tiangong station.

Anonymous No. 16455198

>>16455196
>>16455189
Impressive launch cadence, lots of crew to orbit. I like that.

Anonymous No. 16455199

>>16454825
He sounds disappointed.

Anonymous No. 16455211

>>16455198
They've got a regular launch cadence going on now since they're keeping their station continuously crewed, but Shenzhou-1 launched in November of 1999, and the first crewed launch was in 2003. China's manned spaceflight didn't really move out of testing and into operational missions until 2021.

Anonymous No. 16455219

>>16455198
I was just checking this. they launch twice a year, every 6 months. Soyuz also launches every 6 months and Dragon launches crew to the ISS every 6 months (not counting Axiom and other private costumers). So all of them launch twice a year for 6 manned space flights a year +1 because SpX on average launches a dragon 3 times a year, only 2 for NASAs ISS expeditions. Boeing hasnt got a launch cadance yet. I wonder if they would replace a SpX launch to the ISS per year

Anonymous No. 16455221

Staging now puts us at page 10. No I will not do it myself.

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Anonymous No. 16455225

REAL
>>16455224
>>16455224
>>16455224
>>16455224
>>16455224
STAGING

Anonymous No. 16455226

>>16455221
But I won't do it either

Anonymous No. 16455234

STAGING
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>>16455161
>>16455161
>>16455161
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Anonymous No. 16455243

>>16455234
This one was made at page 9.

Anonymous No. 16455251

>>16455234
sorry buddy but this guy beat you to it
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Anonymous No. 16455252

>>16455054
this is less impressive

Anonymous No. 16455253

>>16455072
I half expect (You) are the fed, but my day is good, thank

Anonymous No. 16455261

>>16455082
Yeah. I have synthesized DMT, and even if you do a shitty job you have more than enough for generations. LSD is cheaper because you'll be done with it before its done with you. For this reason I prefer the mushroom

Anonymous No. 16455263

>>16455234
kys

Anonymous No. 16455271

Why is that schizo early staging once again?

Anonymous No. 16455296

>>16454828
Contractually, BO has to make engines for Vulcan before NuGleen.
Also, it has to actually launch to become operational.

Anonymous No. 16455298

>>16454946
the balls are where propellant is stored

Anonymous No. 16455310

>>16455123
>>16455144
and decent enough internets that you don't need to go NYC to London in 6 hours

Anonymous No. 16455314

>>16455271
either schizophrenia or bipolar syndrome.

Anonymous No. 16455315

>>16454828
Completely different weight class.

Anonymous No. 16455333

>>16455011
For the last time, we don't give a fuck about China or their Mir 2 derived Falun Gong space station.
Go work now.

Anonymous No. 16455441

>>16454825
Inshallah ULA will go bankrupt soon