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Anonymous No. 16455224

Lost Future Returned edition

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Anonymous No. 16455227

*prt*

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Anonymous No. 16455232

>>16455230
Explain how this design works if you love it so much

Anonymous No. 16455235

>>16455227
>>16455230
sounds like you've got a leak

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Anonymous No. 16455240

>>16455238
Fuck off retard

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Real thread:
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Anonymous No. 16455258

>>16455224
Are you ready for the Mercury lander? It's about to land, at 2045.

Anonymous No. 16455266

>>16455236
>>16455238
>>16455250
this is the real thread
kill yourself

Anonymous No. 16455269

>>16455258
They're planing on Falcon Heavy still being available in 2035?

Anonymous No. 16455273

>>16455269
Doubt it. By that time they will have refilling properly figured out

Anonymous No. 16455274

Flight 6 in November?
What would be the new goal?

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Anonymous No. 16455279

>>16455258
>2045
I dont think ill live that long desu

Anonymous No. 16455280

>>16455274
Vacuum relight of the raptors plus more heatshield data, not much else to do with Block 1.

Anonymous No. 16455281

>>16455274
Expanded testing for starship; raptor relights, fuel transfer maybe.
I think we'll need to see at least 2 more catches of superheavy before spacex is confident with it.

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Anonymous No. 16455288

>>16455279
Hopefully Starship would make a Mercury direct possible.

Anonymous No. 16455292

>>16455273
You don't even need refilling. Just slap the lander with a big kick stage into a starship and put them in LEO.
>>16455258
also, 10 year transfer is incredibly slow. give it a bigger breaking stage.

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>>16455258
>10 year SEP cruise to get there
Very gay. E-sail can get there in under a year with a sample return lander
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261836653_Electric_solar_wind_sail_applications_overview

Anonymous No. 16455297

>>16455274
Open the door and have it actually work this time.

Anonymous No. 16455304

>>16455297
Why haven't they tried that in Flight 5? I had pretty much the same suborbital profile.

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>>16455224
BREAKING NEWS!
THE FIRST V2 STARSHIP S33 IS PRODUCING CLOUDS

Anonymous No. 16455307

>>16455305
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Anonymous No. 16455308

>>16455238
>>16455250
>>16455236
this is why we follow the page 10 rule, specifically to bully schizophrenics like these.

Anonymous No. 16455309

>>16455224
pic source?

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Anonymous No. 16455343

What does Blue origin do in 2025?

Anonymous No. 16455344

>>16455343
go back to your containment thread schizo.

Anonymous No. 16455345

>>16455343
Hopefully reach orbit

Anonymous No. 16455362

>>16455343
Pressure test first stage, engine test first stage, then full stack. Second stage will explode on the launch pad during pressurization.

Anonymous No. 16455364

>>16455343
Blow up New Glenn

Anonymous No. 16455366

New Eager Beaver
https://youtu.be/rJr360r_LfQ

Anonymous No. 16455372

>>16455366
This guy is a sleezeball

Anonymous No. 16455373

>>16455372
He's a trustworthy expert

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Anyone care to tell me why Elon is supporting Trump now? Doesn't seem great for his image...

Anonymous No. 16455377

>>16455376
1. fuck you
2. Harris will make Mars impossible so she's gotta go
3. man who has paid $10B in federal taxes wants to cut federal spending

Anonymous No. 16455378

>>16455376
Biden's admin snubbing him constantly fucked him up I'd reckon. Besides, his online reputation ain't exactly stellar for years at this point.

Anonymous No. 16455384

>>16455376
He wants a commercial war against China because he cant compete with them in electric cars because tesla is shit

Anonymous No. 16455385

>>16455376
Big schism between new money tech guys and old money right now. Elon is just being a sperg about it

Anonymous No. 16455387

>>16455376
I honestly don't understand it either. And before anyone gets on my case, take your blinders off and look at how this political system actually operates. Look at Trump's biggest donors. They aren't Elon. Hell, fucking one of them doesn't even have an official public image (I'm not making that up). All Elon is doing is creating a sycophantic image of himself concerning Trump that is largely going to backfire because Trump's literally never shown loyalty to anyone before for more than a few months. People will literally destroy their careers and lives for this dude, and he couldn't give less of a shit. At least with the Dems you can literally buy their loyalty, and not be a jackass about it. Just go right down the middle, give money to both sides, be quiet about it, and no one gets angry at you on top of being able to call in political favors regardless of the outcome potentially. That's how this has always been done, we only hear about the people who make a lot of noise because they're the outliers. Liberal media literally couldn't give less of a shit if you donated to Trump so long as you also donated to their candidates too.

Anonymous No. 16455388

>>16455376
Trump is going to win the popular vote, if anything supporting Harris would be a massive blunder at this point for his image.

Anonymous No. 16455389

>>16455377
>Harris will make Mars impossible so she's gotta go

Explain how trump will make mars possible

>wants to cut federal spending

Its funny you say that when musk literally lives off federal spending

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Anonymous No. 16455395

>>16455343
The same thing they do every year, Pinky, fail to reach orbit.

Anonymous No. 16455397

>>16455376
One big reason I guess is he still has to operate here for the foreseeable future and doesn't want things to keep going along the path his home country did.

Anonymous No. 16455398

>>16455389
improved launch cadence through regulation cuts, no bullshit lawfare, cheaper methane, improved domestic manufacturing capacity to make supplying the colony easier

Anonymous No. 16455399

>>16455376
Democrats, at best, don't care about spaceflight. Many of them actively oppose it.

Anonymous No. 16455400

>>16455376
Because if Democrats win, the country will continue going down the route of South Africa.

Anonymous No. 16455401

>>16455387
The schism between the two might be inevitable looking at Trump's history with his loyalists but how bad it is depends on how much Elon "interfered" with Trump's administration. So far Elon's agenda and Trump's are aligned but with the efficiency agency promise, that might be where things can get messy with all the strings attached.

Anonymous No. 16455403

The big problem with Elon is that he's cringe

Anonymous No. 16455414

>>16455403
you're cringe murray

Anonymous No. 16455418

>>16455387
>>16455401
Seriously. DOGE aint happening. the first time Elon proposes something crazy he will get fired.

Anonymous No. 16455423

>>16455376
Not inviting the CEO of tesla to an electric car summit. FCC bulshitting starlink out of the satellite internet program. Regulators on his ass for stupid shit everyone ekse in the industry does too.

Anonymous No. 16455437

>>16455376
Democraps don't support Strategic Defense programs. The money SpaceX will make from launching Brilliant Pebbles (only possible with a Republican administration) will be enough to pay for a Mars colony.

Anonymous No. 16455438

>>16455400
This, except America turns into South Africa under Republican leadership too, just 10 years later than otherwise.

Anonymous No. 16455442

>>16455438
What a grim future

Anonymous No. 16455443

>>16455232
It just werks

Anonymous No. 16455444

Nobody knows that Tom Mueller reposted gay porn on his twitter account

Anonymous No. 16455448

>>16455387
This was a bigger problem for him than donating to get relief from the unions or 3 letter state agencies. His unforgivable sin was buying twitter and capturing their best information weapon that becomes better and better as time goes on and tv/publications sunset. If you think twitter to X made a big difference for 2024, wait until 2028. Other than making an everything app like china, free speech is a common essential American value and I really think that's one of the reasons he bought it. You've surely heard elon's professed reasons for his gambit, but you said nothing about them. He didn't like the woke mind virus destroying urban california and making it impossible to do business there while leading his son to transgenderism. Twitter was a way for California to rule what felt like the town center for half the planet and steer public sentiment, whether that ever made sense or not. Open borders was a path to more Californias. How much would he have to donate to the dems to stop all of their plans for domination? The things he wants he can only buy from trump. If he's right that they were close to achieving uniparty control then there would be no competitor to go to.

And as I was saying, something something spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16455449

>>16455444
delet this

Anonymous No. 16455451

My personal go-to-space roadmap is actually kind of coming together, just not in the way I was expecting.

Anonymous No. 16455454

>>16455389
>Explain how trump will make mars possible

Trump started this coming moon mission remember? They were able to keep it alive during the biden administration. If we have 8 years of R from here that's easy mars, if it's only 4 years nasa will have to be creative. There's room for hardware pork in the mars mission because spacex at best could only do rockets, ships, and suits.

>Its funny you say that when musk literally lives off federal spending.

I think he said, 2 trillion off 6 trillion. There's so much stuff to get to before musk cannibalizes himself. And that would be EV incentive shit if that happens, which I don't think tesla even needs. He's the lowest bidder and best product for space so that's the beginning and end of that conversation.

Anonymous No. 16455457

>>16455438
10 years for me to prepare is better than 6 months

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Anonymous No. 16455463

Every person I've met irl that dislikes Elon Musk has been a lisping FLAMING homosexual.

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>>16455463
easy thing to happen when you ony talk to people you met off grindr

Anonymous No. 16455477

When did the other thread get btfo

Anonymous No. 16455481

He might actually lose btw.

Anonymous No. 16455483

>>16455387
>>16455376
realistically, colonizing mars in elon's lifetime is going to require a much larger economy than america currently has. the gop probably won't be able to pull it off, although you can always hold out hope for some ai-fueled growth explosion. but it's never going to happen under the democrats as they're currently constituted - not the same party that spent $5 billion to build 7 EV charging stations, or $11 billion to build 0 miles of high-speed rail track, or $40 billion to give 0 people rural broadband access. until the democrats are wiped out and forced to totally reboot, they have proven beyond disputation that they have no interest in achieving anything big as a nation. they're only interested in making sure that success is rationed out according to their sex and racial quotas.
as long as boeing and bezos play nice, the democrats might even be friends to some limited space program. but they're the enemies of ambition.

Anonymous No. 16455487

>>16455483
unironically AI + teslabots will turn the whole world upside down

Anonymous No. 16455489

>>16455483
trumpy will lose and elon will kiss kamalas ring ifyouknow what im saying

Anonymous No. 16455490

>>16455487
when do we get full self driving? i bougt a tesla in 2024 because i thought it as coming in 2015

Anonymous No. 16455493

>>16455489
You joke now but just wait until she actually wins you fags will all be in here crying that ynwgtm

Anonymous No. 16455496

>>16455483
>colonizing mars in elon's lifetime is going to require a much larger economy than america currently has
Martian self-sufficiency can be achieved exclusively with Starlink profits.

Anonymous No. 16455502

>>16455496
Starlink's looking like taking a sizeable chunk of global telecom revenue over the next 5-10 years, maybe 20-30%. Potentially much more but we don't want to get our hopes up.
Which is a big number. Would value SpaceX on the market somewhere between 10 and 30 trillion. Enormous cost reductions as well, as telecom companies currently run well into the red due to the enormous cost of physical infrastructure and maintenance.
SpaceX should be able to scrape by.

Anonymous No. 16455503

>>16455502
retard. Maybe 20-30% of satellite based telecoms, but that would actually be an underestimate

Anonymous No. 16455507

>>16455502
Even 5% would be an exceptional quantity. 1% is a more plausible, high extraordinarily optimistic case, which would constitute $14 billion annually.

Anonymous No. 16455509

>>16455502
>wires in le erf cost more than launching a fucking satelite
found the retard

Anonymous No. 16455511

>>16455509
Thanks to red tape, jurisdictions, inconsistent regulations, and high deployment costs because of the associated overhead, this actually is the case.

Anonymous No. 16455515

>>16455509
It cost the government in my country 25 thousand dollars to run a 5 metre trench from a pit to the front of my house.
Yeah, it costs more. Retard.

Anonymous No. 16455517

>>16455509
google fiber would have been everywhere if it's that easy and cheap

Anonymous No. 16455520

>>16455502
>20-30%
retard, 2-3% would be absolutely awesome success!

Anonymous No. 16455523

Telecoms sell debt. A fiber install can cost upwards of 30 thousand dollars in Australia, but the company and their upstream distributor takes on that debt on the understanding that you'll then be paying ~100 dollars per month (hopefully) forever, eventually paying down their liability.
The reason this is possible at all is because there's nothing better than fiber, and once someone has a fiber install they're a fiber customer for life. Best latency, best reliability, durable hardware.
It's a business model that completely and utterly shits the bed if a competitor comes along. The competitor doesn't even have to be better, they just have to take a relatively small percentage of customers away and the companies go bankrupt real fucking quick.
Most telecom companies are balanced on a knife edge. Starlink meanwhile continues to march onwards towards sub-50ms latency globally while not having any of this complete garbage sucking away progress.

There's part of my retarded take.

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Anonymous No. 16455526

>>16455483
>$5 billion to build 7 EV charging stations
Huh, interesting.

Anonymous No. 16455528

>>16455526
if you want anyone to take you seriously then don't be so lazy that you screencap text written by an ai. you may well be right, but nobody's obliged to believe you unless you come up with a real source.

Anonymous No. 16455533

>>16455528
Okay then. Some of it's from this Reuters article.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/teslas-ev-charging-team-layoffs-threaten-slow-bidens-program-electrify-highways-2024-05-10/

Anonymous No. 16455535

>>16455523
Starlink has some extra charge for "congested areas" but apparently they're trying to stop that. I guess it's literally to stop so many people around urban areas from signing up until they have sufficient infastructure.

I was thinking of getting the small panel, starlink mini, but it's still really expensive for what it is. But then again, there is no competition in reality if you want portable satellite internet because the alternatives are painfully slow. I guess it's actually not that bad, but the initial charge is expensive considering they're getting it direct to the devices in the next few years so the panel is worthless. Poorfag problems. Cost nearly ยฃ500 to get started, the ยฃ96 a month of ยฃ50 a month for 50GB.

Anonymous No. 16455536

>>16455471
what's grindr?

Anonymous No. 16455538

>>16455483
It's not going to take as much as you think. If Starship works we'll see a city for the cost of a space telescope

Anonymous No. 16455541

>>16455538
but you can't build a city on earth for the cost of a space telescope...

Anonymous No. 16455542

>>16455535
Yeah. Don't get me wrong, starlink is comparitively shit right now but if it continues improving at the same rate (plus starship pez) it's going to dominate literally everything other than the high throughput of fiber.
Can't wait to see 5G towers made redundant.

Anonymous No. 16455545

>>16455542
>Can't wait to see 5G towers made redundant.
Lmao, they are littered all over britain and they are hideous. I believe they are hauwei technology, and ironically they banned hauwei phones from being able to access 5G because >le chinese spies or some shit.

Really short sighted as usual.

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Anonymous No. 16455546

Does anyone play kerbal space program? Sinked around 80hr the past week or so into it. Pretty fun.

Anonymous No. 16455547

>>16455528
Honestly AI screencaps would be a huge improvement over headline screencaps

Anonymous No. 16455550

>>16455545
There's one right behind my fucking house in the middle of an empty paddock. Been there for four years and has never turned on.

Anonymous No. 16455554

>>16455546
of course we do. I havent got much to show atm because its on my other computer.

Anonymous No. 16455555

>>16455526
>>16455533
So they are backing out? But it doesn't say why. But it's also weird that I haven't heard elon say why either.

Anonymous No. 16455557

Don is losing rn btw. Mars colony in grandchilds lifetime lol lmao

Anonymous No. 16455559

>>16455366
It's funny, his videos are like a reverse Thunderguy. Same ancient video style with all the colors on a plain black background, and just talking into a mic with no fancy cuts or stuff, but instead of just shitting on a thing for clicks, he's just autistically evaluating it

Anonymous No. 16455561

>>16455557
source?

Anonymous No. 16455562

How does living in water work in 0G? If youre less dense than the water, is there any top you float to? Or do you just stay in the same position? What differs in microgravity?

Anonymous No. 16455563

>>16455376
Biden-Harris is trying to stop Musk at all his companies with all the lawsuits. They're trying to destroy him and his company. When Biden-Harris closed the door on Musk, the only other option is to support Trump and force it to keep the door open.

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>>16455546
Haven't played in a year or two because KSP2 soured it for me, but yes. Been thinking about getting back into it again lately.

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Anonymous No. 16455567

>>16455546
of course

Anonymous No. 16455568

>>16455562
no. same reason convection doesn't work in zero g

Anonymous No. 16455570

>>16455567
and you're proud of this chode of a rocket?

Anonymous No. 16455571

>>16455570
no but it's the only recent KSP screenshot I have

Anonymous No. 16455573

>>16455571
>>16455567
some girls don't mind rockets like that, you shouldn't let it bother you

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>>16455565
>>16455567
Kino, trying to do my first duna landing over the next few days. Been building a few and landing them on Mun to get more of a feel for if they'll make it. I think my final stage is too big with not enough delta v. How much delta v would I need from orbit for Duna and back? I have ~4250, ap 180k, pe 70km.

Anonymous No. 16455575

>>16455562
https://iss.jaxa.jp/en/kiboexp/theme/second/pmlatter/zebrafishmuscle/report/
I'm too lazy to find a better source but they had fish on the ISS and they oriented themselves to the aquarium light in the same way they would do with light from the sun on earth. I'm pretty sure after a while the fish got lazy and boring for another reason i cant remember, there's a video somewhere

Anonymous No. 16455577

>>16455574
If you use an optimum transfer window, and only use aerobraking to capture at duna & kerbin, it should be ~3300dV. 1100 to get a duna atmosphere intercept, and 2200 back (incl. ascent, 60km orbit, and optimum transfer to kerbin atmosphere intercept

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Anonymous No. 16455582

>>16455574
follow this like a bible

Anonymous No. 16455586

>>16455496
This. Ignore all other replies and doomers.

Anonymous No. 16455591

>>16455258
>$1.5B
ffs

Anonymous No. 16455593

>>16455489
Elon won't let her win. He's the kingmaker now..

Anonymous No. 16455594

>>16455577
>>16455582
Thanks, it seems doable then with this craft.

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>>16455546
For many years.

Anonymous No. 16455600

>>16455594
worst case scenario you can probably get them back into duna orbit and send a rescue mission at the next transfer window

Anonymous No. 16455601

>>16455258
I don't understand, when is oldspace going to end with this bullshit? are they going to continue with their ridiculous grifting till the heat death of the universe? If we have to wait 20 years for one mission to one celestial body at a time, then we might as well go extinct before having settled the solar system. This pace is unsustainable and laughable, how infuriating.

Anonymous No. 16455603

>>16455601
No listen you don't understand, it costs 2.8 billion dollars to find out if there's dust and magnets on mars. This is important. See all those sensor things? They do loads of super-complex science. We have to cover the whole thing in science foil so the knowledge doesn't leak out.

Anonymous No. 16455605

>>16455600
Yeah, just practicing docking now actually in anticipation.

Anonymous No. 16455606

>>16455601
Imagine all the remaining other worlds that still haven't got an orbiter or a lander: Io, Callisto, Phobos, Rhea, Miranda, Triton, Eris, etc etc etc. It will be the year 3000 and we'll still be launching 1 multi-billion dollar probe at a time, space is hard, gradatim ferociter. Maybe by the year 4000 we could send the first thing towards Alpha Centauri at this pace, if we haven't been enslaved by a sadistic, omnipotent ASI by that point.

Anonymous No. 16455612

>>16455606
I'm personally hopeful that starship actually works as a solar system exploration vehicle, and we wind up with a couple of dozen of them out on science missions.
To me orbital fuelling is the great enabler for that.

Anonymous No. 16455613

We will rename the solar system to be the Elon system. Alpha centauriand put an F infront of everything so we will then be called the felon system by them, which makes sense because this system is nothing but crooks

Anonymous No. 16455615

I should get a different hobby, sometimes being a spaceflight enthusiast is just suffering.
>>16455612
Yeah, I'm hopeful on that, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FNxOgHEbs8

Anonymous No. 16455616

>>16455613
More likely Elon will become like Caesar, the title for the rulers of Mars.

Anonymous No. 16455618

>>16455615
See you tomorrow

Anonymous No. 16455621

>>16455615
First Man soundtrack goes perfect with Starship footage, gives me goosebumps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJuumS8bl0
>>16455618
lol, true.

Anonymous No. 16455627

>>16455490
You only need a handful of people to teleoperate these things from orbit

Anonymous No. 16455630

I heard you guys like spaceplanes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vFc3vEkEPE

Anonymous No. 16455633

>>16455630
ai generated..?

Anonymous No. 16455634

>>16455633
yeah right, chinese are known for making ridiculous cgi shorts like that

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Anonymous No. 16455640

https://x.com/davill/status/1851498623949029778

New Glenn doing something..?

Anonymous No. 16455642

>>16455640
Bob Smith must be proud.

Anonymous No. 16455647

>>16455640
exploding in the hangar

Anonymous No. 16455648

>>16455647
Rolling to the pad.
Last time I heard about them transporting a stage, it imploded.

Anonymous No. 16455651

>>16455647
expendable hangars

Anonymous No. 16455655

>>16455640
Time to play a game of "pathfinder article or the real thing?"

Anonymous No. 16455657

Thoughts on doing an Astronomy degree in my spare time? I'm guessing it's mostly going to be physics and math. I was going to do biology because that's been largely what I've done in the past but I'm excited at the challenge of learning something I've never really done to any extent. Long term neet at the moment, I may as well do something productive that can give me a career ones the meds are figured out. Might just be a meme but it's stem and I'm sure I could easily blag a career from it in the end. Plus the university has a really nice observatory I want to use.

Anonymous No. 16455658

Are you all garbage too?

Anonymous No. 16455662

>>16455258

> launch in 10 years
> cruise for 10 years
> for the inner system

No more slow ass Missions designed to keep science drones employed for life.

Anonymous No. 16455663

>>16455640
Static-fire when?

Anonymous No. 16455664

>>16455657
more like data analysis on top of physics
if you already have a biology background, use it to springboard yourself into something relevant to mars colonisation/greenhousery

Anonymous No. 16455665

>>16455657
I hope your spatial reasoning skills are well-developed, because astronomy math (and advanced physics) will be far beyond anything you've had to deal with in the past. If you do observing you're obviously going to lose a lot of sleep over your career. Line up an internship somewhere to make sure this is something you want to do the rest of your life. In recent years the size of the field has grown and shrank dramatically as funding has been messed with. You'll need to become very familiar with how the grant game is played

Anonymous No. 16455671

>>16455658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTV74nDwy3w

Anonymous No. 16455672

>>16455389
Trump won the election once and his term was quite good. He isn't the Hitler 2.0 that the media wants you to think he is.

>>16455376
>Explain how trump will make mars possible
For one, he founded the Space Force, so he is clearly pro-space. He also speaks quite fondly of Elon and his projects, and they have a play where Elon will help him trim down the government. This is basically Elon being pissed off about the licensing bullshit in the same way that we are and addressing the issue directly.

Anonymous No. 16455673

>>16455657
Do xenobiology.
Not joking.

Anonymous No. 16455681

>>16455673
One of the modules is about the search for life in the universe. I think that'll be a fun goofy topic but nothing too serious. Just the usual stuff.

>>16455664
>>16455665
Yes it seems to be a more engaging industry to get into and will take more brain than even biology I'd think. I'm confident I'd adapt, acedemic work does seem like a strategy to stay in work though. I guess I'd have more information on the direction I'd be suited to during the course. It's one of the few exciting fields that seem prosperous and constantly changing and learning.

Anonymous No. 16455684

>>16455672
With how absolutely crazy surreal all of this is, I seriously wonder how much FAA fedposting on /sfg/ this past year was done by Elon himself

Anonymous No. 16455685

doing amal with starship girl.....hngg

Anonymous No. 16455686

>>16455685
go to sleep, anon

Anonymous No. 16455687

>>16455541
you can if you don't have to pay taxes :)

Anonymous No. 16455692

so, is artemis iii happening on 2026 or is there going to be another delay because of starship?

Anonymous No. 16455702

I actually find Niel Degrasse Tyson entertaining and he provokes alternative lines of thought.

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Anonymous No. 16455713

>>16455702
He is reddit manifest.
His field is the life cycle of stars.
His dissertation was calculating how to count stars.
That is all he fucking knows. Every other topic he talks about, he is uneducated in and unqualified to do so. Which explains why he's such a fucking retard.
Everything good about him is just rephrasing Carl Sagan or repeating reddit factoids.
There is zero original thought in that man. He doesn't understand physics, he's fucking retarded when it comes to biology, he just plain makes up history, and he's caught frequently in the middle of lies (especially when it concerns his ego).
He met Carl Sagan once. He was in the same room as him another 2-3 times. Carl Sagan wrote him a letter when he was a teenager because Carl Sagan wrote everyone who was interested in space letters.
The difference is that NDT inflated this to being "mentored" by Carl Sagan, and the lie became so deep that in the end it landed him the job as "black science man" in the modernized Cosmos series.
Before Cosmos he even wrote that he was mentored by Sagan into one of his books. Since Cosmos, because he's been called out on it so much, he's very careful about explaining that he was *never* mentored by Sagan and he was just an inspiration.
But the damage is done already. His entire career is shit. There are real science communicators out there, alive or dead, that are a hundred times more rigorous, inspirational and honest. On top of that, they won't teach you to be a pompous know-it-all.

Anonymous No. 16455714

>>16455702
none of those are actually true so you finding that is the result of a subpar intelligence.

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Anonymous No. 16455717

>>16455713
>There are real science communicators out there, alive or dead, that are a hundred times more rigorous, inspirational and honest
true true ^-^

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Anonymous No. 16455719

>>16455717
Fuck me I nearly fell for that.

Anonymous No. 16455720

>>16455717
pic is unrelated to the post

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Anonymous No. 16455721

New Glenn rolling out

Anonymous No. 16455723

>>16455717
holy shit his hair is a mess, also why can't he just shave

Anonymous No. 16455724

>>16455713
>>16455714
I like the parts when he speaks slow and mysteriously.

Anonymous No. 16455725

>>16455723
His hair is long to hide his neck.

Anonymous No. 16455726

>>16455724
you are socialbrained and very easy to manipulate

Anonymous No. 16455727

The perfect crossover doesn't exi-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsZD2wF1vw

Anonymous No. 16455728

>>16455726
kek

Anonymous No. 16455729

>>16455692
Man, I hope it's not gonna get delayed but I dunno at this point.

Anonymous No. 16455733

>>16455555
Woah, nice quints

Anonymous No. 16455736

>>16455545
Same here in NZ, they malded in parliment and banned a bunch of chinkshit but our entire fibre network backbone and end devices, almost every camera install, all the cellular shit, etc etc etc is all chinkshit.

The future war when China flips the switch and 95% of our silicon demon shit fails or goes malicious is going to be absolutely hilarious. I'll go out for a few days hike and come back to our nation conquered. What an unreal fuckup.

Anonymous No. 16455738

>>16455736
Mate it isn't a fuckup, commonwealth countries got conquered by chink adjacent sympathizers in the 90's.

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Anonymous No. 16455745

>>16455738

SKY HOOK IS YOUR ONE TRUE GOD OF SPACE No. 16455755

>>16455258
Wow!

If only there were a space station at the Earth-Moon Lagrange point that would allow easy access to any part of the Inner System without need for complicated launch/transfer windows. If only we didn't pursue ANCIENT technology of chemical rockets launched from the surface of Earth that has MANY MANY inherit flaws in it's implementation such as this transfer window bottleneck......if only you faggots weren't literal retarded faggots who follow literal scam artist Elon Musk in his literal do nothing cock rocket to no where.

This is what you deserve because you are all stupid losers. You get nothing, because you are nothing. As soon as you literal idiots are done literally wasting your lives doing literally nothing, call me.

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SKY HOOK IS YOUR ONE TRUE GOD OF SPACE No. 16455756

>>16455280
How many billions of dollars and 6 flights and the only goals are MAYBE relight the engines in space and then crash the Starship again for more "heat tile data". Mind you Apollo and Space Shuttle already figured our heat tiles somehow. But sure spend the next ten years learning what we learned in the 1960's.....not a scam at all.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Barkon No. 16455757

>>16455755
Barkon approved post.

Anonymous No. 16455759

>>16455657
Where exactly can you get a job with an astronomy degree? Hard mode: no academia.

Barkon No. 16455764

>>16455756
Make a sneaky call and enter the matrix. We're here for you

Anonymous No. 16455767

>>16455759
A planetarium, a-la NDT.

Anonymous No. 16455769

>>16455343
They will make a mock up of an even more advanced rocket (New Musk) and increase their New Shepard launch cadence.

Anonymous No. 16455775

I know it's cliche but I was just reading about the crewed vostok missions and the whole concept is metal.
The descent module is a titanium sphere you eject out of at 7km up and parachute to the ground.
They truly don't make astronauts like they used to.

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Anonymous No. 16455778

>>16455546
Yeah, for more than ten years. The past two months I've sunk another couple hundred hours into a heavily modded career save I started a few years ago.

Anonymous No. 16455779

>>16455640
>horizontal
>doing nothing
This is what we've come to expect from BO

Anonymous No. 16455780

>>16455778
What's preventing us from building a spinhab IRL?

Anonymous No. 16455782

Starlink is launching soon

Anonymous No. 16455783

>>16455657
I'll allow it, but only on the condition that you regularly issue press releases: "I don't mind Starlink at all!"

Anonymous No. 16455786

>>16455778
What mods are you using? I was going to start a new save with a new bunch of mods.

Anonymous No. 16455791

>>16455786
Looks like he's using Nertea's mods, at least for the content.

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Anonymous No. 16455793

>>16455786
-Breaking Ground DLC
-JNSQ and dependencies
-EVE, Scatterer, DistantObjectEnhancement, Planetshine
-Ad Astra (a visual pack for JNSQ)
-Restock and Restock+
-Everything ever made by Nertea; i.e. Near Future, Far Future, Stockalike Space Station Parts Expansion, CryoEngines, etc.
-Community Tech Tree
-SpaceDustBunnies, a JNSQ config for SpaceDust
-KerbalKonstructs (Installed because JNSQ includes special support for it, but I never use the extra launch sites)
-SCANsat
-Final Frontier
-Tarsier Space Technologies (telescopes are fun)
-TechTreeKompacted and HideEmptyTechTreeNodes, just visual tweaks to the tech tree

Get everything from the forums and install manually, CKAN is worthless. Also, if I were putting together a new install now I would definitely include KSP Community Fixes.

Anonymous No. 16455799

>>16455793
That telescope mod looks so fucking cool, I wanted to look for mods which allowed you to enjoy space exploration through observations, experiments, theory etc. It would be cool to discover real world concepts in Kerbal, exactly like that telescope mod where it takes pictures of galaxies etc. I'll definately use that and research the rest.

I used that CKAN and it definately over complicated quite a few mods I installed but the forum was fucked which made some downloads a bit more difficult. Forum seem to be back up which is really great news.

Anonymous No. 16455800

>>16455546
Real scale kerbol system with unmodified stock parts is very fun. The stock parts all seem to be pressure fed which gives extremely tight delta v margins. Since there is no spaceplane heat shield I found that you can actually make a shieldless LEO spaceplane which survives reentry if you stay in the far upper atmoshere long enough

Anonymous No. 16455801

>>16455555
They literally already have charging stations.
The government incentives is probably what encouraged them to establish NACS to basically say they have 25k+ charging stations.

They can layoiff people now that the design is standardized. Only so much to improve on a giant glorified wall wart.

Anonymous No. 16455802

>>16455721
Go Blue!

Anonymous No. 16455803

New Glenn is real, I've seen it down at Cape Canaveral.

Anonymous No. 16455806

>>16455535
I got hit with the congestion charge, 30$ so the bill is now 120$. If I didnt work from home and really hate Verizon it would be silly to continue to pay so much. The only other option being cellular hot spot.

Anonymous No. 16455807

if you zoom all the way outthere isa centaur v in plar orbit but itsmoving much faster than any object. any idea whats going on? testing out the bob lazar ufo in its payload bay?
https://satellitetracker3d.com/

Anonymous No. 16455808

>>16455542
Starlink used to suck for TEAMS, now its very smooth.

Anonymous No. 16455810

>>16455806
Is that an extre 30 per month? Damn that's fucking steep. Again, poorfag problems I guess. But is the performance good? I assume the congestion is actually making a measurable impact on performance. I was going to get one when I briefly lived in rural Scotland, would've been cool just to have. It cost like ยฃ650 or something to start then iirc. I was getting 7mb/s and like 400 ping that rural broadband internet.

Anonymous No. 16455813

>>16455780
The entities that can are either ignoring SpaceX or waiting for Starship

Anonymous No. 16455815

>>16455808
>>16455810
Damn good compared to my alternatives and now a lot better.
Just ran a test
Down 141Mbps
Up 8
Ping 27, Down 113, Up 30

Had 60$ symmetrical 100Mbps in a small rural town. Now even father out, even Whisper Internet is unavailable.

To your point Im not wealthy but can afford to pay for a phone and internet separately.

Anonymous No. 16455816

>>16455815
Found a test I took from January 2024
D 30 U 12 P 73 PD 63 PU 43

Anonymous No. 16455820

>>16455463
>love SpaceX
>hate Musk
Simple as.

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Anonymous No. 16455821

>hate Musk

Anonymous No. 16455823

>>16455793
adding onto this, deferred rendering (https://github.com/LGhassen/Deferred), volumetric clouds (can be found on cs.rin.ru) and parallax continued (https://drive.google.com/file/d/12RHICIEHIiS-BLuCfVAUq4z881UAPC9Y/view?usp=drive_link and https://github.com/Gameslinx/Parallax-Continued/blob/master/README.md for install instructions) are all 10/10 for visual enhancement

Anonymous No. 16455826

>>16455721
Rolling out to where? Another hanger for it to sit in and do nothing?

Anonymous No. 16455827

>>16455820
go back

Anonymous No. 16455831

>>16455793
>-KerbalKonstructs (Installed because JNSQ includes special support for it, but I never use the extra launch sites
You should, they're fun! I landed a bunch of shit on a Laythe island and and when I felt there was enough stuff/crew to justify construction I put a launch base there.

Anonymous No. 16455835

Why is it that only few billionares have their space programme and only one (and hopefully two soon) are successful?

Anonymous No. 16455836

>>16455835
Because it's a huge upfront investment with a long ROI assuming you do manage to secure government funding.
If all you care about is making money there are better ways to do it and most billionares became billionares by only caring about making money.

Anonymous No. 16455837

>>16455835
Earth is a greedy whore and fights like hell to prevent her children from leaving.

Anonymous No. 16455839

>>16455835
Well, half of billionaires are retired and just look at the industries the others are in, in the top 5 are bezo and musk, zuckerberg, some retired software guy and a french fashion company.

Anonymous No. 16455842

>>16455835
>and hopefully two soon
Based peter beck enjoyer

Anonymous No. 16455843

>>16455839
You seem to think there are only a few while forbes puts the number over 1000.
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#79e0e493d788

Anonymous No. 16455845

>>16455826
Iโ€™m sorry youโ€™re buck broken.

Anonymous No. 16455848

>>16455843
No shit, I kept it to the top 5 cause I'm not going through a 1000 billionaires and listing why each one isn't making rockets.

Anonymous No. 16455849

>>16455835
I wish there were more billionaires who invested heavily in anti aging. That would make it possible for us to experience much more space exploration and colonization, maybe even the colonization of another star system.

Anonymous No. 16455852

>>16455849
>immortal federal and surpreme court judges
No.

Anonymous No. 16455853

>>16455852
Just assassinate them every decade or so.

Anonymous No. 16455855

>>16455849
Musk doesnt believe in it, particularly he doesnt believe people should live more than 100 years as that has a chance of giving more power to the elites than it already does today with extreme power accumilation.

Anonymous No. 16455856

We all know our favorite billionaire, that's an easy choice. Obviously zuckercuck. But who's our 2nd favorite billionaire?

Anonymous No. 16455857

>>16455849
Tangentially related, but if given the opportunity, and assuming the technology is there, I would 100% choose to be cryogenically frozen. I don't have much in this world, so I'd rather watch the future and see the colonization of this solar system with my own eyes.
>but you would miss the first martian missions
meh. I'll be watching all the replays in 4k, one after the other, in my comfy Titan cottage, all while pulling up the sfg archive to see what anons were saying on that day.

Anonymous No. 16455858

>>16455856
Robert Bigelow

Anonymous No. 16455859

>>16455858
You're meant to say Musk

Anonymous No. 16455864

>be called robert BIGelow
>company produces inflating products
wew

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Anonymous No. 16455865

>>16455857
>go into cryo
>"aw man the future's gonna be so cool"
>get unfrozen an indeterminate amount of time later
>see pic related

Anonymous No. 16455866

>>16455835
Being a billionaire isn't enough. You need to spend multiple (tens?) of billions to make your own successful space program if you fund it yourself. There are few people with that much to spend and fewer who would be willing to lose that much on a hobby.

Anonymous No. 16455867

>>16455835
Musk is notoriously overoptimistic. A realistic appraisal of the space situation is that the tech is so far away that its worth doing almost anything else over space stuff. SpaceX is moving mountains and doing miracles, but still, Starship is basically capable of Apollo Von Braun style and not much beyond that. Economically viable settlement on other worlds is still distant science fiction.
It's not something I like, but it is the way it is

Anonymous No. 16455875

What about space hotels then? They have been "5 years away" for a decade or two now. Surely at least that could interest a billionaire or two

Anonymous No. 16455877

>>16455875
Vast

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Anonymous No. 16455882

>>16455875
Maybe once full reuse is a thing. For the $60M price for one seat in a week long Axiom ride in cramped dragon you can buy a pretty big yacht. You really need to be a space enthusiast to consider it.

Anonymous No. 16455886

>>16455875
Profitable space hotels are a joke. It will only happen if Starship is wunderwaffe, and even then you would be catering to a very narrow customer base of a couple thousand thrill seeking multi millionaires, only a small fraciton of which have any interest in space.

Anonymous No. 16455887

>>16455882
not to mention the very real possibility of death
spending millions to gamble on a whole number percentage chance that you might die isn't very appealing.

Anonymous No. 16455891

https://x.com/TheRealBuzz/status/1851628221013622787
Buzz endorsing Trump (and crediting Elon for his work in spaceflight)

Anonymous No. 16455892

>>16455835
Afro-American excellence.

Anonymous No. 16455893

>>16455875
NASAs official lineis that they want to replace ISS with commercial space stations, but the reality is that ISS will not be replaced. ISS itself is meant to be open to anyone who wants to buy space for experiments or a flight, so in that sense its already a commercial space station, and its had less than half a dozen tourists in all that time.

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Anonymous No. 16455894

>>16455857
>in my comfy Titan cottage

Anonymous No. 16455895

>>16455891
I was expecting crystal porn

Anonymous No. 16455898

>>16455893
NASA is leaderless and directionless. A Trump presidency may change that, but probably not much. Pence was more of the NASA guy, the best thing Trump will probably do is stand back and let commercial space do its thing. Which may mean private space stations, or it may not.

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Anonymous No. 16455900

>>16455891
Unfathomably based

Anonymous No. 16455901

>>16455891
https://x.com/realhomerhickam/status/1851630359168885020

Anonymous No. 16455902

>>16455891
Why is spaceflight a partisan issue in the US? Shouldn't both parties care about it, you know, for the greater good?

Anonymous No. 16455903

>>16455891
this will be the final straw for leftists who still pretend to be pro-space (but don't want humans to go to space).
the death cult will now full on see spaceflight as a right wing topic.

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Anonymous No. 16455905

>>16455224
Is it be possible to heat Titan with fusion bombs that you may could build in mass with the Helium 3 of Saturn? Or maybe even changing the orbit of small moons.

Anonymous No. 16455906

>>16455891
Amazing

Anonymous No. 16455907

>>16455902
determining what constitutes the 'greater good' is a political and ideological question. it shouldn't be a surprise that different ideological coalitions have different ideas about how much of a priority spaceflight should be.

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Anonymous No. 16455910

>>16455891
suspect character

Anonymous No. 16455913

>>16455910
just wait until you find out about the men who created the united states of america

Anonymous No. 16455917

>>16455902
Because US spaceflight is now 90% SpaceX, and by extension Elon Musk

Anonymous No. 16455918

>>16455902
>the greater good
Explain the direct positive impact of spaceflight on black inner city youth.
There is none so itโ€™s not part of the โ€œgreater goodโ€

Anonymous No. 16455921

>>16455917
Maybe they shouldn't have alienated Musk then?

Anonymous No. 16455922

>>16455845
When's it launching then?

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Anonymous No. 16455924

>>16455913
Suspect nation

Anonymous No. 16455925

>>16455922
NET November but Iโ€™m sure theyโ€™ll find problems in the static fire and push it out to December or January. Doesnโ€™t change the fact that this is flight hardware moving to the test stand, not some prop get transferred between warehouses.

Anonymous No. 16455927

>>16455887
>>16455882
Don't you also have to do a fuck ton of training even as a tourist to go into orbit?

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Anonymous No. 16455930

>>16455918
All honkeys will leave the Earth so they will be its unchallenged kangs

Anonymous No. 16455931

>>16455925
>Doesnโ€™t change the fact that this is flight hardware moving to the test stand
source?

Anonymous No. 16455932

>>16455921
The snubbing of SpaceX by the Biden's administration was a major mistake. They're an easy photo-op material but instead of keeping them close, the administration decided to fuck with them for some reason.

Anonymous No. 16455933

>>16455894
>years away from earth
that's not something bad

Anonymous No. 16455934

>>16455891
imagine being him.
you're one of the only human beings to touch down on a celestial body, it happened decades ago, with the combined might of western engineering excellence. you've slowly watched all your friends and fellow astronauts die, and the dream die with it as funding for spaceflight dips.
you've watched the shuttle fail to deliver on it's promise as well as killing more astronauts.
you've seen spacex's rise to power and success at making space exciting again (and also way cheaper).
then when spacex dares to take the next step and fulfill the lost future you were promised with it's new vehicle (see the OP), all those lefties who kept harping on about le cosmos and le basedence all these years while spitting on the bare notion of increasing space funding, try to stop it, because they're petty and don't like the guy running the show.

it's pretty obvious what he was going to vote for, he wants to see mankind take the next step before his deathbed, he could disagree with literally everything else in trump's agenda and still vote for him, this is the final straw, no more lost futures.

Anonymous No. 16455936

>>16455931
Dave Limp you stupid nigger >>16455640

Anonymous No. 16455937

>>16455934
*on another celestial body

Anonymous No. 16455939

>>16455936
yawn, wake me up when it actually does something

Anonymous No. 16455950

>>16455934
>>16455937
...so hes a chud?
going to the moon was a mistake.

Anonymous No. 16455951

>>16455932
It's because he doesn't use UAW labor at Tesla and SpaceX is outdoing bluestate darlings like Boing! and assorted ISPs. They had to snub him or their donors and union muscle would abandon them.

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Anonymous No. 16455953

>>16455950
He LITERALLY shot down communists in Korea. He's a war criminal

Anonymous No. 16455959

>>16455953
*hero

Anonymous No. 16455961

>>16455953
Killing commies is based

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Anonymous No. 16455964

200th starlink launch

Anonymous No. 16455966

>>16455964
The only one that can catch up is Blue. You need a reusable heavy lifter to quickly build your megaconstellation.

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Anonymous No. 16455967

>>16455891
Theres a lot of the expected stuff in the replies, for and against and moon hoaxers.
But I did not expect how weird some of these are.

Anonymous No. 16455969

>>16455967
Not a bad idea, if you want to be able to manufacture stuff up there hemp is a viable alternative to needing petrochemicals to make plastic. Plus you're going to want to be growing things anyway so the infrastructure for farming will already be required anyway.

Anonymous No. 16455970

>>16455964
>>16455966
A lot of the rockets that exist or are in development wonโ€™t even have 200 launch careers. Vulcan wonโ€™t. A6 wonโ€™t (not that europe wants to launch megaconstellations). Neutron is very unlikely to. Itโ€™s really only new glenn that stands a chance of rivaling (pre starship) starlink.

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Anonymous No. 16455971

World famous space traveler Buzz Aldrin officially endorses Trump for president

Anonymous No. 16455972

>>16455970
>neutron is very unlikely to
what do you base this on?
if they can figure out falcon-class rapid-reuse i think they'll hit that figure pretty easily, especially if they're there to pick whatever spacex is too full to take on.

Anonymous No. 16455981

>>16455971
Why doesn't anybody ever read the thread before posting, just to make sure the news hasn't already been posted? That used to be common etiquette.

Anonymous No. 16455982

>>16455972
Their launch license from Wallops is very limited. I don't remember the exact number, but it was like 12 launches a year.

Anonymous No. 16455983

>>16455964
Would have rounded out the originally planned 12,000 sat constellation, assuming no losses and only launching the original design.
There have obviously been losses, and design revisions mean F9 can't launch 60 anymore, but it's pretty wild to see that number of launches actually in play. I remember in 2019 watching the first ones go up, thinking "damn, 200 launches just for Starlink is going to be a huge undertaking, I wonder how long that'll take," and it turns out the answer was five years. F9 cadence progress is absolutely unreal.

Anonymous No. 16455984

>>16455972
Rocket Lab simply doesn't have the right stuff

Anonymous No. 16455985

>>16455983
I wish they hadn't added sunshields, I loved getting to see the post-launch trains in the night sky above me after having seen them launch on stream earlier that day, such a cool feeling.

Anonymous No. 16455986

>>16455972
Itโ€™s going to be late to the being late to the party party.

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16455987

female astronauts who set foot on other worlds need to have the feet in question photographed for future generations. to not do so would be insane.

Anonymous No. 16455988

>>16455971
Senescent man endorses another. Big deal.

Anonymous No. 16455989

gross
fuck off

Anonymous No. 16455991

>>16455964
I just simply don't get how any other megaconstellation will be able to compete (in a free market environment). Spacex will just continually be able to outcompete in price/speed/features while the rest will have to eat the charge of using their shit rockets. Obviously China will have their own incentives but what is Amazon even thinking at this point.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16455992

>>16455989
>human female
>gross
i'm trans btw if that matters!

Anonymous No. 16455999

>>16455918
Explain the direct positive impact of black inner city youth on spaceflight.
There is none so itโ€™s not part of the โ€œgreater goodโ€

>implying negroes don't benefit from satellite communications
>implying negroes don't benefit from mandated affirmative action employment of them in the spaceflight industry
they benefit from spaceflight massively even though they contribute nothing to it

Anonymous No. 16456000

>>16455982
and? they can change that launch license if they think they can get higher cadence, spacex did this with falcon, what's the big idea?

Anonymous No. 16456003

>>16455991
>but what is Amazon even thinking at this point.
It's the anything but Elon/spacex choice.

Also expect Amazon to pull the old adage of showing up at trade shows to trick clueless out of the loop boomers.

Anonymous No. 16456004

>>16455991
I'm sure there is some goverment bux to be had for the 2nd constellation that is not SpaceX. DoD at least doesn't want to be left alone with a sole supplier.

Anonymous No. 16456006

>>16455991
I feel like given how much of the internet AWS hosts amazon stands to benefit from some sort of vertical integration. Not sure whatโ€™s in it for anyone else.

Anonymous No. 16456008

>>16455988
They're always based and experienced middle fingers to the chuds until they disagree with you, then they're senile and irrelevant, because you don't actually care about anything that doesn't bolster your group-think, which you've tied to your own sense of validation and self-worth, and it leaves you a hollow thing, incapable of having any standards or principles.

Anonymous No. 16456011

>>16456000
It's not that easy in rocketry.

Anonymous No. 16456015

>>16456008
I'm fine with limiting the maximum age for office. Biden should never have been president either.

Anonymous No. 16456017

>>16455991
>Amazon is required to launch and operate 50% of its satellites no later than July 30, 2026
lol, lmao. Furthermore, why is Amazon doing this? It's like if Starlink was from Tesla. SpaceX would only get the launch revenue and none of the service revenue.

Anonymous No. 16456018

>>16455988
Anon is right, you were never a fan you fairweather fag.

Anonymous No. 16456020

>>16456004
>DoD at least doesn't want to be left alone with a sole supplier.
They clearly don't care about that because they have a money printer and unlimited budgets. Since when has anyone in the federal government ever cared about impoverishing their paypig citizens via inflation?

Anonymous No. 16456021

>>16456015
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16456023

>>16455982
The original Falcon 9 launch license for SLC-40 from 2008 was for 6 launches per year with a goal of increasing to 12/year once the program had "matured." Starting with 12 launches per year for Neutron isn't unreasonable for a program just getting off the ground.

Anonymous No. 16456025

>>16456004
>>16456020
It is very likely they will have a congressional mandate imposed requiring at least two launch providers for national security reasons, similar to the one for construction of nuclear powered warships.

Anonymous No. 16456029

>>16455902
>Why is spaceflight a partisan issue in the US?

Spaceflight gives people hope for the future, victim status is central to left wing ideology in America.

Anonymous No. 16456030

New StarTalk just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUNt9zsz3c

Anonymous No. 16456037

>>16456030
I dont care about black science man

Anonymous No. 16456041

>>16455902
It's probably more about Musk and unions proximally, but if you think about it, corporations taking over space has been depicted as the bad future in science fiction for quite some time.

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Anonymous No. 16456053

>>16455800
Space plane you say

Anonymous No. 16456056

>>16456041
This is because most successful scifi writers and nearly all hollywood writers are insufferable leftists. "Here's a scifi story about how my kind of socialism is the one that actually works!" or "Weyland-yutani is totally a metaphor for George Bush, because both are obviously evil."

Anonymous No. 16456057

>>16456056
Was Heinlein the last sci fi right winger?

Anonymous No. 16456059

>>16456057
calling heinlein right wing seems like a stretch

Anonymous No. 16456063

>>16456059
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress reads like 1712 rehearshal of individualist assertion against people oppressing and stomping the freedoms of others and Starship troopers is like someone threw into a blender a load of militaristic values, styles and ideas from around the globe and built a world around what came out of that.

After I finish reading a book about technocracy I will check "have spacesuit will travel" but now I come with certain expectations after reading the aforementioned.

Anonymous No. 16456073

>>16456059
He had a weird mix of esoteric individualist views, which he'd summarize by just saying that he was a libertarian because it was simpler than explaining in detail. He liked the idea of maximizing individual freedom to the point where he found a lot of fans in the counterculture, but he also liked a strong, militarized world government as a means of avoiding nuclear war. He probably most at home in the lib-right political quadrant, and honestly, that really lines up with a lot of the kinky shit he was exploring in some of his later works.

Anonymous No. 16456075

>>16456073
>He liked the idea of maximizing individual freedom to the point where he found a lot of fans in the counterculture, but he also liked a strong, militarized world government as a means of avoiding nuclear war
>Maximize individual liberty
>Strong militarized world
Never served did he?

Anonymous No. 16456079

>>16456075
>In January 1924, the sixteen year old Heinlein lied about his age to enlist in Company C, 110th Engineer Regiment, of the Missouri National Guard, in Kansas City. His family could not afford to send Heinlein to college, so he sought an appointment to a military academy.
Is it that hard to look it up?

Anonymous No. 16456086

>>16456079
It was retorical, anybody that has gone through military life for anything beyond a contract or a lifetime understands that individualism has a top limit. So unless he was positing the idea that people are free as long as others are not, it is schizophrenic.

Anonymous No. 16456099

>>16456020
DoD got burned by excessive consolidation (fuck you Bill Clinton) and single sourcing in aircraft so they want to avoid similar problems in space.

Anonymous No. 16456103

I truly hate flat earthers.

I would genocide them before even (((them))).

Anonymous No. 16456106

>>16455967
and the braindead zombies in the hidden replies

Anonymous No. 16456107

I can't wait, bros.
When is the next Starship flight?

Anonymous No. 16456111

>>16456107
Half a month. Give or take a few days.

Anonymous No. 16456113

>>16456107
Spaceflight is so tedious, nothing ever happens

Anonymous No. 16456115

>>16456111
A fortnight?

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Anonymous No. 16456123

Titan is a planet.

Anonymous No. 16456126

Hopeless.

https://www.youtube.com/live/feF41iREr90

I hate the modern world.

Anonymous No. 16456127

>>16456123
yeah

Anonymous No. 16456128

>>16456123
>Titan is a moon.
ftfy

Anonymous No. 16456135

>>16456057
I thought Jerry Pournelle was more so. I'm sure there are lots of others, since there is so much military sci-fi.

Anonymous No. 16456137

>>16456135
>there is so much military sci-fi.
If there is something I want to know more about is how we are going to kill each other 200 years from now.

Anonymous No. 16456153

I have yet to see /sfg/ refute jelly babies.

Anonymous No. 16456158

>>16456128
>Titan is a steaming pile of SHIT
FTFY

Anonymous No. 16456159

>>16456153
I have yet to see any jelly babies.

Anonymous No. 16456164

I got banned for posting astronaut feet... care to explain?

Anonymous No. 16456167

>>16456153
There is no data on micro-g fetal and childhood development. There is no data on partial-g fetal and childhood development.
Micro-g is probably pretty bad, looking at long term effects on adults. Partial-g is basically an unknown, and it's possible that any significant gravity is enough to give the body enough of a physiological "signal" to properly maintain and grow itself. Moon kids might be unable to exist on Earth for any significant length of time, or they might acclimate within a month, we just don't fucking know because the government has failed to conduct research on this so far.
Absolute worst-case scenario, preggos and children have to live in rotating creches. This is basically as simple as building a circular train track in a bowl.

Anonymous No. 16456175

>>16456030
buy an advertisement faggot

Anonymous No. 16456177

>>16456164
>I should be able to post my gross fetish in a spaceflight thread waaah

Anonymous No. 16456178

>>16456153
there is no jelly babies to refute, you haven't shown us any, twerp.

Anonymous No. 16456180

tesla fans have been real silent since this dropped...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_7IPm7f1vI

Anonymous No. 16456182

>>16456164
retarded AIslop+foot-fetishist = insufferable faggot
they should've rangebanned you instead, cunt.

Anonymous No. 16456183

>>16456123
The Moon is a planet.

Anonymous No. 16456191

>>16455902
Spaceflight has been partisan since day 1. Remember the Apollo black protestors?

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Anonymous No. 16456199

Sauron sends his fume to rain ash on starbase
https://x.com/tjc_12/status/1851566431244358126

Anonymous No. 16456201

In 6 days theres a 50/50 we never to go to Mars.

Anonymous No. 16456204

>>16456199
fuck you gaia, we're leaving, don't get in our way or we'll kill you faster.

Anonymous No. 16456205

>>16456180
So jerky and wobbly. Tesla's control algos blow them out of the water.

Anonymous No. 16456210

>>16456205
I aint never seena teslabot demonstrate the dexterity or speed of that boston dynamics robot. Teslabots shuffle like an old person and have never crouched to pick up an object

Anonymous No. 16456215

>>16456210
>tesla bot
>2022
>boston dynamics
>1992
Do you have anything insightful to add?

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Anonymous No. 16456221

>>16456199
Did that volcano check with the EPA/FAA before doing this?

Anonymous No. 16456222

>>16456221
I wonder how the SpaceX workers who had to deal with the environmental review felt when they saw this forecast

Anonymous No. 16456227

>>16456073
>really lines up with a lot of the kinky shit he was exploring in some of his later works.
Such as?

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Anonymous No. 16456237

>Up next: Integrated launch vehicle hotfire.

https://x.com/davill/status/1851726138344902734

Anonymous No. 16456239

>>16456180
yeah model predictive control is cool

Anonymous No. 16456241

>>16456180
robot cunny is getting closer and closer.
i hope i can (in my lifetime) buy a nandroid with built in womb and gene-splicer so i can impregnate the robutt and they make flesh women obsolete..

Anonymous No. 16456246

>>16456237
What videogame is that?

Anonymous No. 16456247

>>16456177
>gross

Anonymous No. 16456253

>>16456246
Arma 3

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Anonymous No. 16456256

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS-lRlfm8xk
Starlink launch coming up in T-10:00

Anonymous No. 16456258

>>16456246
UFO Enemy Unknown

Anonymous No. 16456264

>>16456256
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1YpKklnVYPYGj

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Anonymous No. 16456269

https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1851731242221531473

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Anonymous No. 16456286

>>16456256
>>16456264
And everything worked perfectly yet again

Anonymous No. 16456287

>>16456215
oh so youre moving the goalposts?

Anonymous No. 16456295

>>16456287
Oh, so you're a retarded faggot?

Anonymous No. 16456308

>>16456295
you like getting raped by facts because youre homo. i understand.

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Anonymous No. 16456320

How is SpaceX most likely to transport Starship stages to the pad at 39A once it's complete and ready to go? My assumption is that they'll just carry them separately on SPMTs on the regular road like at Starbase and take the path indicated in the screencap through the gate I assume is in the fence off to the right of the main front gate.
This is, of course, assuming they'll be coming from the direction of the VAB.

Anonymous No. 16456326

>>16456320
hop from starbase

Anonymous No. 16456327

people who say that trump will betray musk dont understand trump. hes smart and loyal. has no track record of betraying anyone.

Anonymous No. 16456329

>>16456320
they will probably just roll them on their side and attach the pointy bits at the launch site

Anonymous No. 16456338

>>16456308
Oh, so you have homosexual fantasies and project onto others?

Anonymous No. 16456339

>>16456327
Pence would like a word

Anonymous No. 16456351

>>16456320
The environmental assessment talked about a breakover so they will likely be shipped on their side.

Anonymous No. 16456353

>>16456339
Pence threw Trump under the bus.

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Anonymous No. 16456356

>>16456353
Wrong, Pence did his job and Drumpf tried to have his supporters hang him for it

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Anonymous No. 16456366

>>16455981
He endorsed him again chlorophyll breath. You probably think one endorsement is enough like you think one wrist watch is enough.

Anonymous No. 16456368

>>16456366
imagine being a pioneer and then coming back to earth and rotting for 55 years

Anonymous No. 16456369

>>16456356
Yes, Pence did the job of a traitor.

Anonymous No. 16456370

>>16455902
spaceflight is hormonal

Anonymous No. 16456371

>>16456356
monke.

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Anonymous No. 16456373

>>16455891
WHITEY ON THE MOON

Anonymous No. 16456376

How tall will martian trees get

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Anonymous No. 16456377

>>16456373

Anonymous No. 16456383

Jello trees

Anonymous No. 16456384

>>16456376
250m? Depends on the species and health (and ceiling) but I think that would be the theoretical maximum

Anonymous No. 16456392

>>16455903
>this will be the final straw for leftists who still pretend to be pro-space (but don't want humans to go to space).
>the death cult will now full on see spaceflight as a right wing topic.
https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/1gfphd2/buzz_aldrin_endorses_trump_citing_space_policy/

you were right. they're fucking mad. mask is off.

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Anonymous No. 16456393

>go on chinese forum to check Shenzhou 19 reactions
>As usual, openly discussing the date of any upcoming launch is illegal and will get you banned, so everybody uses euphemism, again usual stuff for post-covid chinese space forums.
>1000 post/day thread controversy about the fact that Shenzhou 19 astronaut Wang Haoze (picrel) isn't a Han
>Dozens of people saying that she shouldn't be an Astronaut because, as a Manchu, she doesn't eat dogs like "proper chinese"

God I love china.

Anonymous No. 16456394

>>16456393
>born in 1990
wtf she's a child

Anonymous No. 16456397

>>16456384
Theoretical maximum is exactly correlated with gravity, so ~350 metres.
But that's with earth's atmosphere. Water boils at negative 5 degrees C on mars.

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Anonymous No. 16456399

>>16456394
1990 was 34 years ago.

Anonymous No. 16456402

>>16456393
she defintely looks like a manchu. wouldnt look out of placein one of those shit 2d paintings the chinks used to make in the qing era

Anonymous No. 16456404

>>16456393
Aren't chinks used to sucking Manchu dick and eating Manchu pussy by now? Those guys mogged them for 3 centuries.

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Anonymous No. 16456405

>>16456392
>Buzz Aldrin talking about space is not space related
lmfao

Anonymous No. 16456406

>>16456392
other than trump saying some rockets are cool, I still dont see how red or blue teams make that much of a difference for space

Anonymous No. 16456408

>>16456405
>Time to die off, old white man
>(no matter your accomplishments)

Anonymous No. 16456409

>>16456406
FAA. /sfg/ will shape policy now.

Anonymous No. 16456410

>>16456406
>reps will say something meaningless and forget about musk after a few weeks
>dems will imprison musk, dismantle his business empire and rape his dog
it's that simple

Anonymous No. 16456412

when trump responded to the aldrin endorement he didnt even seem to know who aldrin was kek.
no mention of the fact that aldrin was the second human to ever walk on the moon, just generic "hes a great guy" bullshit.
shameful.

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Anonymous No. 16456415

>>16456410
his dog? unforgivable

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Anonymous No. 16456416

>seething communist
Enjoy your time in the crystals

Anonymous No. 16456417

>>16456406
Its really hard to imagine a blue president announcing a big mission or directive like men to mars because they have the "problems here on earth" constituency.

Anonymous No. 16456418

>>16456412
The entire Earth knows who Buzz Aldrin is.

Anonymous No. 16456420

>>16456417
It's just not feasible to make life multi-planetary when we have growing concerns on earth, like how to most efficiently surgically hollow out children without their parents knowing.

Anonymous No. 16456421

>Uhhhh, both sides are exactly the same

Read this, dumb bitch

https://homerhickamlifetimes.blogspot.com/2024/09/how-i-got-sacked-by-kamala-harris.html

Anonymous No. 16456425

>>16456406
Blue = better for earth science
Red = better for the big crewed programs
that's the tradition.

Anonymous No. 16456427

well, it's a decent start to an article, but it fails to mention the attacks on spacex
https://payloadspace.com/space-policy-in-a-harris-administration/

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Anonymous No. 16456428

>>16456412
>aldrin was the second human to ever walk on the moon
Second is right after first

Anonymous No. 16456430

>>16456402
>she defintely looks like a manchu
What are the key features?

Anonymous No. 16456433

>>16456425
Earth science is gay. Just a bunch of nerds looking at the sky or studying rocks.

Anonymous No. 16456435

>>16456430
Stronger facial features (i.e. having a nose bridge and jawline), taller, fairer, stronger.
More mongolian/korean/etc looking, instead of the squashed bug Han.

Anonymous No. 16456436

>>16456418
no they dont lmao.

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Anonymous No. 16456438

Saturn V is still the most frequently launched SHLLV
That must change

Anonymous No. 16456439

>>16456421
Mike seems like a cool guy.

Anonymous No. 16456441

>>16455662
MAXIMIZES HERITAGE COMPONENTS

Anonymous No. 16456442

>>16456393
>so everybody uses euphemism
Such a poetic culture

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Anonymous No. 16456443

Oh no SpaceX bros, it's not looking good for us!

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Anonymous No. 16456444

>>16456438

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Anonymous No. 16456446

>>16456443
It's Spacexover

Anonymous No. 16456447

>>16456443
>>16456446
spex bros... how do you respond without sounding mad?

Anonymous No. 16456450

>>16456447
Lets try spewing racist/fascist rhetoric, that usually works

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Anonymous No. 16456451

>>16456447
I wouldn't say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say. And that's what no one did.

Anonymous No. 16456452

>>16456451
sounds like a sci-fi wank

Anonymous No. 16456454

>>16456421
Homer HICKam is a retard drivelling southerner

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Anonymous No. 16456456

>>16456444

I take it Musk is back to being portrayed by a european in the upcoming nigflix adaption kek

Anonymous No. 16456459

>>16456454
West Virginians are the most powerful race.

Anonymous No. 16456460

>>16456454
And Kamala is a low IQ brown monkey.

Anonymous No. 16456461

>>16456376
No wind so no structure. They likely won't get much taller than palm trees

Anonymous No. 16456464

>>16456460
Now thats a new low. WOW.

Anonymous No. 16456466

>>16456460
you really think thiswill help your guy win the election? ... have fun with 4 more years of brat.

Anonymous No. 16456467

>>16456376
Two kilometers.

Anonymous No. 16456470

>>16456456
look at my african-american over here

Anonymous No. 16456471

>>16456464
>>16456466
I'm literally shaking right now. I was not prepared to see such hate. I tried taking all of my meds but it's not working. What can I do??

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Anonymous No. 16456473

I haven't heard any updates on SMART Reuse recently, how is this program going? It seems like a real winner.

Anonymous No. 16456474

>>16456447
>5/22/14

Anonymous No. 16456475

>>16456474
That's only ten years ago, you can't expect much to change in the space industry in merely ten years. Space isn't easy, things are bound to move slow.

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Anonymous No. 16456477

>Iโ€™m a conservative. I voted for Ronald Reagan twice, for GW Bush twice, for John McCain, Mitt Romney, & Nikki Haley.
>Iโ€™m voting for #KamalaHarris because we need to defend the free world and canโ€™t do it with a corrupt treasonous Putin-allied lunatic pervert in the White House.
https://x.com/robert_zubrin/status/1851591559042490512

Anonymous No. 16456478

>>16456477
I always knew he was a cuck. just die old man, space has moved on.

Anonymous No. 16456481

>>16456477
The funniest part is that Trump would be a better option for his beloved Ukraine than Biden, but he's too insane to realize that.

Anonymous No. 16456484

>>16456477
russia derangement syndrome

Anonymous No. 16456490

>>16456416
>the last thing a regulatory agency sees

Anonymous No. 16456514

>>16456473
they havent been given reusable models of the be4 yet so there is no point pulling a party trick. they arent like spacex with trying to grab flashy headlines.

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Anonymous No. 16456522

>>16456473
>helicopter recovery
like god intended

Anonymous No. 16456529

fuck you

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Anonymous No. 16456531

>>16456433
>studying rocks
Hey rocks are important too

Anonymous No. 16456540

>>16456529
What has you perturbed, friend?

Anonymous No. 16456547

>>16456540
no one liked my communism idea so it angers me to see you have fun exchanging memes

Anonymous No. 16456549

>>16456547
well, communism is for cucks, so deal with it

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Anonymous No. 16456550

>>16456547
If it's any consolation, I think your communism idea is just as funny as the other memes.

Anonymous No. 16456553

>>16456103
I hate all kind of earthers, not only flat.

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Anonymous No. 16456554

>Buzz Aldrin's endorsement was as much seen as Schwarzenegger's
nice

Anonymous No. 16456555

>>16456554
doesnt surprise me a guy named "black nigger" in german acts like one

Anonymous No. 16456559

>>16456473
>sustainably
nice buzzword retards

Anonymous No. 16456566

>>16456473
it's going

Anonymous No. 16456568

>>16456477
Based Kamala will nuke Russia!

Anonymous No. 16456569

>>16456393
there are some funny parallels with how chinese internet culture treats (((manchus)))

Anonymous No. 16456570

>>16456547
i didn't realize friedrich engels posted here

Anonymous No. 16456571

>>16456406
the democrats are trying to kill spacex
die, fag

Anonymous No. 16456572

>>16456571
is there any reason i should believe this?

Anonymous No. 16456573

>>16456393
it's based to have somebody bringing news from a forum that isn't reddit or twitter for once. do they have any consensus thoughts on the state of chinese or world spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16456574

>>16456554
cool roggid

Anonymous No. 16456575

>>16456572
disingenuous faggot
fuck off and die
there's so much evidence you can not in good faith claim you haven't seen it

Anonymous No. 16456577

>>16456572
fuck off concernfag

Anonymous No. 16456578

>>16456574
ching chong rogget

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Anonymous No. 16456580

>>16456578
i like chink rockets

Anonymous No. 16456581

>>16456406
red team is friendlier to spacex rn, but remember, politicians do not actually care about space at all. musk deep down knows this, he's just trying to get the most out of this situation.

Anonymous No. 16456582

>>16456580
silly frog poster

Anonymous No. 16456583

>>16456554
many beetles died when that pic was taken

Anonymous No. 16456586

>>16456581
SpaceX doesn't need politicians that are friendly. It just needs politicians who aren't actively hostile, as Biden and Kamala are.

Anonymous No. 16456587

>>16456392
>Does he not know that Kamala Harris is the chairman of the National Space Council?
The NSC met 8 times under Pence compared to only 3 times under Harris.

>>16456393
>8k slow motion drone video of rocket test folded 1000 times
>full post test debriefing of everything that went right or wrong
>you can't discuss rocket launches
>gweilo can't even go near rocket launches
the duality of china

Anonymous No. 16456588

>>16456554
a booster for each village

Anonymous No. 16456591

>>16456588
and the second stage for all of them, when it explodes in LEO after delivering the payload lmao

Anonymous No. 16456599

>>16456199
Really strong southerly winds here the past couple days causing. It's usually smoke from fires and not from a volcano though.

Anonymous No. 16456605

>>16455902
Because the Biden admin went after Musk, SpaceX and wants to stifle the resurgent space industry. Its based on marxist identity politics and economics policy about how rich=bad, white=bad, man=bad, straight=bad, individuals=bad, private companies=bad, etc.

Anonymous No. 16456607

november 6th can't come soon enough

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Anonymous No. 16456612

why does Japan use solid rocket motors? it's not like they have an ICBM industry to maintain.

Anonymous No. 16456625

Hail Musk.

Anonymous No. 16456629

>>16456612
They're simpler, easier to maintain, and fail less.
Kinda funny, eh?

Anonymous No. 16456632

>>16456103
tsmt
>>16456553
what about hollow earthers?

Anonymous No. 16456634

>>16456456
he looks like terrence howard

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16456635

Trumpet losing btw

Anonymous No. 16456637

>>16456635
trvthvnke

Anonymous No. 16456639

>>16456393
cute

Anonymous No. 16456642

>>16456477
>jew votes democrat
YOU DON'T SAY

Anonymous No. 16456649

>>16456612
They have to maintain murica's

Anonymous No. 16456652

https://archive.is/0OOxB

Another hitpiece from NYTimes about Musk as they report on SpaceX

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Anonymous No. 16456656

>>16456635
keep on seething, keep in mind the polls are always + a couple of percent democrat

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Anonymous No. 16456687

remember this based lander?

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Anonymous No. 16456705

Somewhat off topic, but it's probably interesting news to many anons in here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/1gg5106/ksa_the_ksp_replacement_from_rocketwerkz_seamless/

Anonymous No. 16456707

>>16456705
Interesting, but will have to see how the rockets fly, thats the difficult bit. otherwise its just space engine

Anonymous No. 16456709

>>16456707
Yea it's too early to really get excited, but it already seems like it's off to a better start than KSP2 was.
Starting from the ground up and involving some of the OG KSP devs is promising. It kiiind of sounds like they may even be getting Felipe onboard.

Anonymous No. 16456717

>>16456705
>Our studio actually was in the bidding to make KSP2 and we made it to the top three bids. The final step was a call Private Division. I put a lot of work with the into a good design document and opted to keep the focus entirely on this design and the technical aspects of the project - this was a serious problem for two of the people on the call who said we were the only pitch that did not contain art. Obviously out studio wasn't chosen.
What a familiar story.

Anonymous No. 16456720

>>16456705
Fucking based
I hope we get something out of this, people have no idea what a massive EPO opportunity it is
Hell, ESA got some stuff added on word of mouth alone

Anonymous No. 16456726

>>16456717
those initial pitches were scrapped anyway, nate simpson lied to 2k for 4 years then they wanted it done so they rebuilt the game over KSP1 getting rid of none of the technical debt they wanted to

Anonymous No. 16456727

>>16456709
felipe has his own ideas about how a kerbal sequel ought to be done that he's hinted at in interviews before and i doubt they'd be compatible with this. if he's on board i bet it's just in some advisory capacity, which is fine.

Anonymous No. 16456736

>>16456612
Why do you answer your own question? They want to be nuclear capable in a very short timeframe if necessary. Maintaining both liquid and solid rocket families would take more resources.

Anonymous No. 16456745

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wEjAC6Qm6fg

Great short, he's actually too smart for the interviewer and he's always 2 steps ahead.

Anonymous No. 16456746

>>16456393
>>16456402
>>16456404
>>16456569
What the fuck is a "Manchu?

Anonymous No. 16456747

>>16456746
Looks like someone trying to force a meme using a shortening of "manchurian."

Anonymous No. 16456749

>>16456747
grow up, manchu is the term for that ethnicity.

Anonymous No. 16456752

>>16456749
Literally nobody outside Asia cares about Chinese ethnicities.

Anonymous No. 16456755

>>16456705
I was thinking not a week ago that it's a genuine mystery that someone else hasn't created an alternative in this genre. There's a few others but they severely lack substance and the engine looks boring.

This is exciting.

Anonymous No. 16456764

>>16456123
youre mom is a planet

Anonymous No. 16456766

>>16456752
whats your point?

Anonymous No. 16456768

>>16456766
Mostly that I'm an asshole who missed some of the initial context, apparently.

Anonymous No. 16456770

>>16456755
They have, you just haven't heard of them. There is Juno, which left early access but still feels barebones and Rocket Science that's early in early access.

Anonymous No. 16456771

>>16456770
I've seen Juno, looks meh. Something about it looks very arcade like which KSP isn't, even with goofy kerbals. I like the look of it as an aerospace mess around but it seems to lack substance. Planes look awesome though, that's what KSP fails on. Genre is bigger than I anticipated, I'm excited.

Anonymous No. 16456776

>>16456770
>There is Juno
My memory is kinda fuzzy, so I looked it up and realized it's SimpleRockets 2, they just changed its name.

Anonymous No. 16456786

Any Brit in? Thinking of doing a few A levels in my spare time over the next month or two. I am ADHD so can hyperfocus and do 6hr intensive a day no issue, but is it too ambitious to complete 2 or 3 A level by Feb next year? I kinda want to go and do a proper degree in astrophysics or something.

Anonymous No. 16456792

>>16456786
>hyperfocus
quit with the meme shit

Anonymous No. 16456793

>>16456786
I dropped out twice so dont want to talk about it. not because im stupid (the opposite in fact) but because I cant socialise well and became an alcoholic.

Anonymous No. 16456796

Is Alex here?

Anonymous No. 16456801

>>16456793
>I dropped out twice so dont want to talk about it
Dropped out of uni twice, college twice and fucked up some career opportunites along the way. Each time was very much due to people, recently I've been diagnosed with bipolar, they are certain of ADHD and autism but that takes far longer than psychiatric disorders. I was an alcoholic from 18-feb this year, so about 6 years or so. Now being given meds and treatment. It makes me realise that it's basically hammering a square peg into a round hole endlessly when you try to be a normie so you've got to do everything in your own way. At least this has been my revelation. We're brought up in contrast to that idea, we must all be very similar and if not it's like a pack of dogs that nip at you, blame you for things and totally misunderstand you. Such a simple change in mindset, feel like a brainlet for not understanding this without a spacker lady telling me I'll never fit in,


I'm sure you have it in you and I hope you will succeed. I don't know your situation but I empathise. I don't think being a normie is all it's cracked up to be. Probably the sense of belonging wherever you go is the best part.

Anonymous No. 16456803

>>16456792
If I like doing something I will do that with no care for anything else in the world including meals, washing exercise etc. If I don't like doing something or it's stressful it's like paralysis. Doing things underpressure is extremely helpful too.

ADHD is bonkers but I think practically everyone has it to some degree like a spectrum. The high functioning in society I believe is very much down to their neurochemistry combined with intelligence, but their neurochemistry is so underappreciated and intelligence is given too much credit.

Anonymous No. 16456805

At least in the short-term, all food on Mars is going to be in the form of MRE's, right?

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Anonymous No. 16456808

>>16456805
algae, beef jerky and 4000IU vitamin d capsules

Anonymous No. 16456817

>>16456808
I take 5,000IU of vit d3 with vit K a day, doctor said he's rarely seen such high vit d levels. That stuff clearly works.

Anonymous No. 16456819

My mother said she'll get me a Falcon 9 for christmas but I wanted a Falcon Heavy, she's such a bitch.

Anonymous No. 16456821

>>16456745
Stop feeding this cunt into my algorithms.

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Anonymous No. 16456822

Look how little space there is for cargo.

Anonymous No. 16456823

>>16456752
Yeah, thats due to the CCP's efforts to eradicate regional histories inside its "borders".

Anonymous No. 16456825

>>16456805
Yeah food is just not enough mass to be a priority for local production. Doubly redundant food for a crew of ten for a launch window is 20 tons. Obviously a problem without starship but a total non issue if you have a dozen. Even after it can be called a city I wouldn't be surprised if staples are still shipped, with some local veggie and meat production

Anonymous No. 16456826

>>16456822
My house fits inside the payload bay :( it isn't that small

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Anonymous No. 16456830

>>16456822
So little space.

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Anonymous No. 16456835

>>16456822
it's over

Anonymous No. 16456836

Our guy is being taken out of context again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jgev_YGl44

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Anonymous No. 16456837

>>16456830

Anonymous No. 16456838

>>16455891
>Old white boomer is a conservative
I really do not get how everyone was so surprised.

Anonymous No. 16456840

>>16456822
1-cubic-kilometer-bros, it's over

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Anonymous No. 16456844

>>16456840
>starship will OBLITERATE every oldspace with its 1km^3 capacity
>starship will DESTROY the competition with its 0.8km^3 capacity
>starship is nothing to sneeze at with it's 0.6km^3 capacity
----You Are Here----
>starship is very good at what it does with its 0.4km^3 capacity
>s-starship is uhhh... with it's 0.01km^3 capacity
>spesx is only temporarily in a deficit, tthey're about to make a comeback! I swear!
>elon was a hack anyway, I always loved BO

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Anonymous No. 16456850

>>16456844
Starship was the sizzle
New Armstrong is the steak

Anonymous No. 16456853

>>16456850
This is outdated, based on patent filings seems like BO is going for the same thing as stoke.

Anonymous No. 16456855

>>16456840
you mean 1 kilometer of cubes lol

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Anonymous No. 16456858

>>16456853
"Tiles? A failed technology. Actively cooled base shields are the path forward''

Anonymous No. 16456859

>>16456850
An MS-paint drawing is as far along as New Armstrong has gotten.

Anonymous No. 16456875

>>16456158
Wow. What a faggot you are.

Anonymous No. 16456876

>>16455503
starlink is already >50% of satellite telecoms you blathering inbred retard nigger

Anonymous No. 16456877

>>16456822
So, New Glenn has now unironically more payload volume, right?

Anonymous No. 16456881

>>16456853
>BO is going for the same thing as stoke.
relegation to EFL League One?

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Anonymous No. 16456882

Reading that NYT article and this made me laugh out loud.

>"How dare you use vertical integration? HOW. DARE. YOU!?"

Anonymous No. 16456884

>>16456877
>using prototype test articles to guess anything
Starship has never been to orbit either, it's over.
More likely they just went with the same overall height so they didn't have to change their construction equipment but stretched the tanks inside

Anonymous No. 16456886

>>16456877
>comparing expendable second stage to a reusable one

Anonymous No. 16456888

>>16456656
RCP leans R with predictions, and a president has never been underestimated 3 times in a row by pollsters.

Anonymous No. 16456891

>>16456882
Whats it about?

Anonymous No. 16456896

>>16456891
Search the thread for the link. It's just them bitching about SpaceX and Elon.

Anonymous No. 16456901

>>16456877
kek, and more mass. 100T is a meme number made up by Elon 8 years ago. The real LEO payload is unironically near 30T compared to New Glenns 45. And when it comes to high energy trajectories there is not even a question as to who wins.

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Anonymous No. 16456905

>>16456901
Hydromeme was hydrochad all along? I don't know what to do with this knowledge, I'm in turmoil

Anonymous No. 16456907

>>16456891
The Establishment-horrifying scenario of a fast growing enterprise that is executing on its goals and doing a way better job of it and making profits while bidding at low cost than any of their would-be competitors.

Anonymous No. 16456908

>16456901
trying too hard to fit in
go back to shitter, troon

Anonymous No. 16456909

>>16456901
>Elon says it's actually 50 tons with an early booster
>This guy keeps revising it downward
Stop gaslighting.

Anonymous No. 16456911

>>16456901
>remove flaps, heatshield, header tanks, and have expendable upper stage like nooglin
>payload to LEO is suddenly triple digits
it's just that easy in SpaceXery
ship 26 was never meant to fly, it was just to remind bezos that even with only very rough early stage prototypes starship is always better

>>16456896
you could just quote it, lazy ass
>>16456891
it's this >>16456652

Anonymous No. 16456913

>>16456901
New Glenn is 45 tonnes to LEO.
On paper. Discarding second stage.
Not only are they not going to hit that 45 tonne target for another 1-5 years, but in the spirit of fair comparisons if you expend Starship second stage (Cheaper than expending New Glenn's second stage) it can launch 45 tonnes directly to Jupiter.

Anonymous No. 16456916

>>16456909
Elon always lies, he didnt even seem confident in his statement.
Guy was like "Uhmm.... About.... 45 Tonnes?"
Which means the real number is much lwoer

Anonymous No. 16456919

>>16456913
>but in the spirit of fair comparisons if you expend Starship second stage (Cheaper than expending New Glenn's second stage) it can launch 45 tonnes directly to Jupiter.

Yeah, after 40 refuelings LMAO

Anonymous No. 16456920

>>16456919
That's one shot from the ground.

Anonymous No. 16456922

>>16456882
without taking a position on the economics, it's a bit of a different attitude from how seriously the nyt took vertical consolidation within industries when the politics were reversed https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/business/dealbook/att-time-warner-legacy.html

Anonymous No. 16456925

>>16456822
>the guys who solved multiple problems in spaceflight that had been open for decades by inventing solutions that were widely considered impossible are too dumb to add space for a payload
being tortured to death is too good for you

Anonymous No. 16456926

>>16456925
Sir, who are you quoting?

Anonymous No. 16456928

>>16456844
Your copypasta is gay (derogatory)

Anonymous No. 16456929

>>16456916
>The real number is much lower
t. speculative claims pulled entirely out of your butt.

Anonymous No. 16456931

>>16456919
troll and retard

Anonymous No. 16456934

Andrew Tate should enter the space race

Anonymous No. 16456936

>>16456926
If you are not aware that greentext is not always a direct quote, perhaps you should lurk more, faggot

Anonymous No. 16456937

>>16456877
New Glenn is still smaller by like 100 cubic meters, but the difference is quite small.

Anonymous No. 16456938

>>16456934
>What color is your booster?

Anonymous No. 16456940

>>16456937
0.9 cubic kilometers is still quite big!

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Anonymous No. 16456941

How small will it get when they add legs?

Anonymous No. 16456942

mmmmm
piss water
https://youtu.be/ELcppd90ttw

Anonymous No. 16456943

>>16456941
Depends if they decide to cut Superheavy's boostback prop margins/add more prop to the booster.

Anonymous No. 16456946

>>16456942
you think you dont drink piss water too? like your water was created ex nihilo?
aka pisswasser btw

Anonymous No. 16456947

>>16456941
this is jsut sad. its over.
anyone who was planning to fly big payloads in starship is also going bankrupt lol

Anonymous No. 16456948

>>16456946
My water comes from burned hydrolox.

Anonymous No. 16456950

>Big brother smirked, 'Facts are whatever I say they are. For example, starship payload bays are small. Really small. You could fit 60% of a cubic kilometer in the palm of your hand.'
>'That's not true,' spluttered Winston. 'I was on an E2E yesterday. It's the biggest damn thing I'd ever seen - my house could fit inside it.'
>'No!' boomed Big Brother. 'It was small! Welcome to Tiny Bay World, Winston. Enjoy not being able to fly on starship on account of it being too small, you idiot!

Anonymous No. 16456953

>>16456948
but the atoms of oxygen and hydrogen came from my piss, and you drink it.

Anonymous No. 16456955

>>16456953
what is oxygen if not the waste product of stellar metabolism? we are made of star-piss. we are a way for the universe to piss itself.

Anonymous No. 16456956

>>16456947
Theyโ€™ll just put their payloads on nuglin
>>16456950
kek

Anonymous No. 16456963

Why can't they just launch Starship to orbit?

Anonymous No. 16456965

>>16456963
not enough space for fuel to get it to orbit

Anonymous No. 16456966

>>16456963
elon doesn't understand that you need a perigee ABOVE the karman line.

Anonymous No. 16456969

>>16456963
>>16456965
>>16456966
Because they need to certify the ship's deorbit capability before they can get a license to actually leave it in orbit.

Anonymous No. 16456970

>>16456963
Raptors donโ€™t work in space.

Anonymous No. 16456971

>>16456963
the vehicle barely holds togetherthanks to immense weight of filter after filter in the tanks to keep the ice at bay. 3 lights is too much and the ship will epxlode

Anonymous No. 16456976

>>16456963
They just can't. They lost the technology.

Anonymous No. 16456977

>>16456963
it will only be orbit capable with raptor 3. raptor 2 doesnt have the performance.

Anonymous No. 16456983

>>16456963
it's not that easy

Anonymous No. 16456985

>>16456963
itโ€™s not that easy in rocketry

Anonymous No. 16456986

>>16456938
Kek

Anonymous No. 16456987

>>16456963
dude, they only got like half way to orbital velocity, do you really think they could just orbit? if so i have a bridge to sell you..

Anonymous No. 16456991

>>16456983
>>16456985
but it's that easy in hivemind-ry

Anonymous No. 16456992

reminder that elon's spending tens of billions building datacenters because he hopes that grok 3 can tell him how to build a rocket that actually works

Anonymous No. 16456993

>>16456963
umm space is hard sweetie. of course a reusable saturn V type rocket would require 12 refuelling steps. its just science. so no sweetie.

Anonymous No. 16456994

>>16456941
Why the fuck do they keep making the tanks bigger when the engines continue to get better and more efficient? It'd be like building a car one year with a range of 300 miles, but then with the next year's model you increase the MPG by 30% and then decide to replace the trunk with a larger gas tank because... reasons.

Anonymous No. 16456995

>>16456994
goyim reasons. trump is a giga kike who wants to launch more rockets with less payload to sell more.

Anonymous No. 16456998

>>16456992
How did we go from
>Xitter will go bankrupt!
to
>xAI built the largest supercomputer on Earth

Anonymous No. 16456999

>>16456994
What if the test ship before was just capable of carrying it's own weight?

Anonymous No. 16457000

ahh a skeleton!

Anonymous No. 16457002

>>16456994
Because Starship is FAT

Anonymous No. 16457004

>>16456994
starship v1 had NO VIABLE PAYLOAD

Anonymous No. 16457006

>>16456998
I think itโ€™s kinda funny how the lefty cope wenโ€™t from โ€œitโ€™ll be dead in 3 monthsโ€ to โ€œitโ€™s full of nazis nowโ€ like it wasnโ€™t full of nazis before.

Anonymous No. 16457007

>>16457004
They could put some piping plovers inside.

Anonymous No. 16457008

>>16456994
let me askyou: why do you tink they never flew a dummy payload on the 5 test flights???

Anonymous No. 16457009

>>16457006
Scientifically speaking, if you aren't castrating your children, then you're a nazi. Nazi

Anonymous No. 16457010

>>16457007
it would be very inspiring watching them flutter around on ift3 as the atmosphere drains from the bay door

Anonymous No. 16457012

>>16457004
It did, not putting tons of payload mass on board is explicitly why flight 2 failed.

Anonymous No. 16457016

>>16456998
>xAI literally built the largest super computer on Earth
No? Not even close.

Anonymous No. 16457017

>>16457008
There must a big problem behind the curtain. So far every Starship was on a suborbital trajectory, but it still had Starlink dispenser. They build a dummy satellite and test doors and the deployment mechanism, but they didn't. It's very concerning.

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Anonymous No. 16457019

>>16457016
NVidia says it's the biggest one

Anonymous No. 16457020

>defending negative mass margin on /sfg/
baka tbqh senpai
We here only support rockets and companies that deliver results over rhetoric.
Go Team Space! Go ULA!

Anonymous No. 16457021

>>16457019
>ai supercomputer

Anonymous No. 16457022

>>16457017
I think they're just testing other stuff at the minute, as soon as they do a in-space relight of the raptors I bet they start testing payload stuff.

Anonymous No. 16457023

>>16456994
the new engines aren't significantly more efficient, but they are significantly more powerful. it's more like upgrading the engine in the car from 200hp to 300hp, but MPG has only gone up 5%. Once raptor 3 is common they should be on ship v3 with the longer payload AND tank length

Anonymous No. 16457026

>>16457017
a sober minded look at the development proves it has been an utter shitshow. i hope they can make the mars dream happen but there is a LONG way to go. we are only 10% of the way down the road to a viable rocket which can do it

Anonymous No. 16457028

>>16457019
Literally not a supercomputer. It's a network of switches. You may as well call Comcast's ISP infrastructure the largest supercomputer in the world.

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Anonymous No. 16457031

>>16457010
t.

Anonymous No. 16457033

>>16457020
>defending negative mass margin on /sfg/
Do not bully Alpaca

Anonymous No. 16457035

>>16457028
>t. hasn't updated his knowledge of large scale compute since the 1980s

Anonymous No. 16457037

>>16457022
It just seems weird, because they did a door test only during Flight 3 and not a single time since then. I hope they will surprise us with Flight 6, because seeing the same flight profile once again would be quite disappointing.

Anonymous No. 16457040

>>16457035
It's literally a network of switches.

Anonymous No. 16457041

>>16457037
the door was such a disaster that they have not figured out the new design yet.

Anonymous No. 16457043

>>16457037
It means the first test was a failure

Anonymous No. 16457044

>>16457041
>>16457043
Designing a door surely can't be that hard.

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Anonymous No. 16457045

soon
the seething will be unlike anything you've ever seen

Anonymous No. 16457047

This fuckin website. I can't tell if you guys are trolling or if the Artemis discord is raiding

Anonymous No. 16457048

>>16457044
the door opens inward and because the payload bay is mostly air tight it made the door too ahrd to open in space and broke the mechanism. My 'why dont they just' take is they should add a valve to empty the atmosphere beforeopening the door, but they probably know something more troubling which i dont.

Anonymous No. 16457049

>>16457047
Space is hard

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Anonymous No. 16457058

>>16457047

Anonymous No. 16457060

>>16457047
Starship current payload bay being laughable is a fact

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Anonymous No. 16457068

>>16457060
But it's just a hollow ring of steel? Just make it longer. Am I missing something? Changing the exterior of a test article to increase the size of an unused payload bay while they're focusing on reentry would seem like wasted effort and an added variable where they don't need any

Anonymous No. 16457069

What's going on at SLC-6 which SpaceX started leasing some time ago?

Anonymous No. 16457074

>>16457068
Longer = more weight = need more fuel = bigger fuel tanks, they really fucked themselves with 9m rocket

Anonymous No. 16457093

>>16457040
That's what all supercomputers are.

Anonymous No. 16457097

>>16457074
they could easily reduce the size of the rocket and have it compete with falcon 9. more payload is irrelivant.

Anonymous No. 16457100

>>16457074
Should have gone with 8.4 like the clearly superior SLS

Anonymous No. 16457101

>>16457097
It's relevant when starlink 2 is still waiting to be launched because f9 fairing is too small

Anonymous No. 16457107

>>16457101
just make it real short and launch one v2 at a time. get creative!

Anonymous No. 16457108

>>16457074
How many feet do you need to stretch the tanks per foot of stretched payload bay?
>>16457101
Too small height wise or width wise? This sort of this is why I(>>16457047) assumed someone is being disingenuous

Anonymous No. 16457109

>>16457108
at least 1 to 1

Anonymous No. 16457111

>>16457066
>hydrolox first stage
cringe

Anonymous No. 16457119

>>16457108
Keeping everything else the same, a 12 meter Superheavy is about half the height of a 9 meter Superheavy. The upper bound on how tall the stack can be holds steady at ~100 meters of propellant split between the first and second stages.

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Anonymous No. 16457122

In-flight in-atmosphere Starship refueling.

Anonymous No. 16457123

The people who decided on a 9m starship have names and adresses.

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Anonymous No. 16457125

>>16455224
Greenhouse effect is fake. Look at this graphic. If there were no atmosphere, there would be 7 rays reaching earth, and with atmosphere it's just 5. Checkmate atheists.

Anonymous No. 16457127

>>16457122
WTF anon this is a blue board

Anonymous No. 16457128

>>16457123
Are you talking about the Musk compound?

Anonymous No. 16457129

>>16457122
cocka!

Anonymous No. 16457130

>>16457123
yes we all know who Elon Musk is.

Anonymous No. 16457134

>>16457040
That's every modern supercomputer retard

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Anonymous No. 16457135

>>16457122
Only for spessplanes

Anonymous No. 16457136

>>16457135
spess planes, we have felled teh emprah

Anonymous No. 16457138

>>16456950
best post in the thread

Anonymous No. 16457139

>Liquid oxygen comprises a significant majority of this, and each launch puts a serious dent into the US production of liquid oxygen, which is used by various customers, including hospitals.
>Put another way, launching four Starship rockets in a single day would consume all of the nationโ€™s liquid oxygen capacity for that day.
soo... how long until we start seeing hit pieces about spacex/musk stealing all the oxygen from sick children in hospitals. I give it a couple of weeks before this goes mainstream lol

Anonymous No. 16457141

>>16455232
Membrane is held aloft by air pressure acting on the underside. Membrane uses anchor tethers to maintain shape. No upper limit to area covered, though sectioning off large areas of pressurized land for redundancy in case of a major rupture is a good idea.

Anonymous No. 16457142

>read thread
>a quarter of it is retards intentionally doomposting about a prototype starship's payload capacity for (you)'s
people who are this addicted to attention should seek professional psychotherapy.

Anonymous No. 16457143

>>16457139
What's old is new again
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-29/spacex-oxygen-covid-pandemic

Anonymous No. 16457144

>>16457139
Just make more lox. Itโ€™s right there in the air. Just stick it in a freezer and youโ€™re done.

Anonymous No. 16457145

normie pop sci tubers are making starship videos now
https://youtu.be/7sHHVJz9hRQ?si=3IZw6N9vsgmgJJXK

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Anonymous No. 16457147

>>16457145
ohnohnohno....
whats this???

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Anonymous No. 16457148

>/sfg/ fellates Elon with 1% less enthusiasm than usual
>muskrats lose their minds

Anonymous No. 16457149

>>16457000
>spooky trips checked
what is the spookiest thing in spaceflight? any dead satellites or probes that came back to life? unexplained signals?

Anonymous No. 16457152

>>16457149
The spookiest thing about space is the unsurvivable vacuum, temperatures, and radiation. There are no surprises.

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Anonymous No. 16457153

>>16457149
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_delayed_echo

Anonymous No. 16457158

>retard makes up fantasies in his mind about starship payload
>constantly asks for attention
>refuses to take medication and visit his shrink
>instantly outs himself as the affected party when this is pointed out

Anonymous No. 16457160

fuck you

Anonymous No. 16457162

>>16457147
but the booster does go into space after separation

Anonymous No. 16457165

anal with starship girl...

Anonymous No. 16457166

>>16457162
doesn't matter
he calls it falcon super heavy which is unforgivable and shows how little research he does
>>16457165
extremely gay and cringe

Anonymous No. 16457167

>>16457166
>gay and cringe
my favorite <_<;;

Anonymous No. 16457168

>>16457143
huh, I have forgotten about that. And of course, ULA received zero backlash whatsoever as always kek
>>16457144
Sure, they would have to ramp up their production with more air separation units (more paperwork??). But this is only half of the issue, there's also the part about methane.
https://www.energy-cg.com/NorthAmericanNatGasSupplyDemandFund/NaturalGasDemand_MethaneFuelMuskStarship.html
According to this, and using the year 2019 as reference, 3 Starships a day would be almost twice the daily average of US demand for methane.I've heard there were plans to install a pipeline that could bring in methane from Brownsville LNG terminals, so that you don't need a gorillion trucks coming in every day, though I'm afraid this could end up being a regulatory nightmare.

Anonymous No. 16457169

>>16457166
eaborate how dominating a girl so hard that you use her ass as a pussy is gay?

Anonymous No. 16457170

>>16457148
comedy remains illegal on /sfg/

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Anonymous No. 16457171

>>16457169
but that's where poop comes out

Anonymous No. 16457173

>>16457171
This, gross.

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Anonymous No. 16457174

>>16457165
absolutely based.

Anonymous No. 16457175

>>16457149
black holes are pretty spooky, though they're paradoxically hard to miss
(Except if micro black holes exist/can be created, these would be reaaaally spooky)

Anonymous No. 16457176

>>16457074retard

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Anonymous No. 16457177

>>16457168
>I've heard there were plans to install a pipeline that could bring in methane from Brownsville LNG terminals, so that you don't need a gorillion trucks coming in every day
No bro, its all going to be synthesized on site with solar energy, Elon said so

Anonymous No. 16457179

>>16457175
>"Yes, yes, we've all heard the philosophers babble about "oneness" being "beautiful" and "holy". But let me tell you that this kind of oneness certainly isn't pretty and if you're not careful it will scare the bejeezus out of you."
โ€“ Anonymous Lab Technician, "MorganLink 3DVision Live Interview"

Anonymous No. 16457181

>>16457171
>>16457173
you do realise mucus and blood come out of the vagina and its milimeters from where piss comes from?

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Anonymous No. 16457182

>>16457181
and?

Anonymous No. 16457184

>>16457181
Agreed, the female body needs a complete redesign.

Anonymous No. 16457186

>>16457182
so putting your dick up a girls ass and making love to her guts is actually hygenic and based.
vaginal is for procreation with the right one. Would you actually want to procreate with 20T to LEO Starship?

Anonymous No. 16457187

Do you think Musk has visited /sfg/?

Anonymous No. 16457188

>>16457187
no, he thinks blue boards are for fags

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Anonymous No. 16457189

>>16457186
yes

Anonymous No. 16457192

>>16457189
Sad. She's clearly not the one. The closest thing to sex she should ever get is mercilessly flicking her clit while getting done up the butt.
Can't even carry a payload. Can't even avoid flap burnthrough. Can't even land at the tower!

Anonymous No. 16457196

>>16457031
would it be possible to build a larger vacuum chamber to suffocate more birds at once?

Anonymous No. 16457199

>>16457187
No, he has a mind of a redditor stuck in 2010.

Anonymous No. 16457206

>>16457199
Miss those days. All of you ruined a generation with your negativity.

Anonymous No. 16457208

>>16457074
>thin tank walls are really heavy compared to thousands of tons of propellant
there's no way to sugarcoat this
you need to gas yourself immediately

Anonymous No. 16457210

>>16457208
liquid gas

Anonymous No. 16457217

>>16457210
kek

Anonymous No. 16457233

>>16457139
SpaceX will sooner or later produce LOX and probably argon from air, and methane via the Sabatier process.

Anonymous No. 16457237

>>16455224
Are you ready for another staging drama?

Anonymous No. 16457238

>>16457179
Based Alpha Centauri enjoyer

Anonymous No. 16457239

>>16457237
i dont see a lot of drama.
if some retard gets kicks out of staging early and getting his thread deleted after that's not my problem.

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Anonymous No. 16457246

>>16457245
>>16457245
>>16457245
>>16457245
STAGING AT PAGE 10

Anonymous No. 16457247

>>16457187
much like how God has turned his eyes away from creation in disgust, Elon saw the quality of the posts here and left
this is the outer darkness, a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth

Anonymous No. 16457248

>>16456822
>>16456835
Aren't they planning a taller version later though? Seems like this one is sort of a temporary design with testing prioritized over payload. Presumably so they don't have to modify the tower until later.

Anonymous No. 16457249

>>16457145
Cold Fusion is washed
Jeet garbage

Anonymous No. 16457251

>>16457248
yes, but how else are you going to get the attention that your parental figures wouldn't give to you? he must doompost because people calling him a retard for it will be the closest he'll ever have to being friends.

Anonymous No. 16457264

I understand why Starship has no payload: Air weights 1.3kg/m^3, which means with 1 cubic kilometer of payload volume, at lift-off, Starship is pushing uphill more than 1000000 tonnes of air!

Anonymous No. 16457267

>>16457264
but it does have payload, it has 100 tons of payload, you're lying, why are you lying?

Anonymous No. 16457318

>>16456901
>The real LEO payload is unironically near 30T

Gotta love how the EDS crowd are slowly walking that number down hoping no one notices.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16457319

>>16456994
>Why the fuck do they keep making the tanks bigger when the engines continue to get better and more efficient?

https://youtu.be/oNFdR-UpZS8?si=G9JWnI81ix40Xc0M

Eager unironically has one of the best videos on this topic, the tl:dr is that reusing your second stage has MASSIVE payload penalties.

Fully expending a rocket that is normally fully reused does something like triple the LEO payload.

Anonymous No. 16457322

>>16457181
>mucus, which you swallow over a liter of every day
>blood, which courses through your entire body keeping you alive
>piss, a sterile liquid
as opposed to LITERAL STINKING BROWN SHIT FECES DOODOOCACA

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Anonymous No. 16457429

>>16456858
>you won't need tiles or active cooling if you never reach orbit!

Anonymous No. 16457532

>>16457429
boomer cartoon gif