๐งต /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:07:09 UTC No. 16457245
Dark Forest Edition
HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
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๐๏ธ Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:12:46 UTC No. 16457250
get a life
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:13:39 UTC No. 16457252
>>16457250
Get a girlfriend
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:14:07 UTC No. 16457253
>>16457252
How?
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:16:03 UTC No. 16457257
>>16457250
i can't, i'm a skeleton.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:17:48 UTC No. 16457259
Fuck I voted. Musk must win.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:21:10 UTC No. 16457263
>>16457260
what about the starliner anomaly?
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:23:23 UTC No. 16457266
>>16457263
I meant as in Occurred on Halloween
Yeah the banging noise was spookier in a mystery sense
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:32:15 UTC No. 16457272
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:33:11 UTC No. 16457274
>>16457254
We should remove this
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:34:17 UTC No. 16457276
>>16457260
Why did he pull the lever bros
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:39:02 UTC No. 16457281
>>16457274
but how would you breathe.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:45:52 UTC No. 16457284
>>16457281
Oxygenated fluorocarbons in the rectum
https://www.livescience.com/mammals
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:56:37 UTC No. 16457290
>>16457245
Gay halloween failstage edition
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:13:12 UTC No. 16457304
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:16:48 UTC No. 16457308
>>16457301
thank god. this scam was going on for too long.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:17:09 UTC No. 16457310
>>16457301
I hate to be blunt but, about damn time
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:59:40 UTC No. 16457332
>>16456994
>Why the fuck do they keep making the tanks bigger when the engines continue to get better and more efficient?
https://youtu.be/oNFdR-UpZS8?si=G9J
Eager unironically has one of the best videos on this topic, the tl:dr is that reusing your second stage has MASSIVE payload penalties.
Expending a rocket that is normally fully reused does something like triple the LEO payload.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:09:09 UTC No. 16457337
>>16457332
eager is a hack. i woudlnt trust him as far as I could throw him (he's obese)
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:09:18 UTC No. 16457338
>Shuttle was a fat piece of shit because of Air Force requirements for Vandenberg launches, which never happened
Post Apollo spaceflight history is such a tragedy
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:10:19 UTC No. 16457340
>>16457337
>t. inflation fetish astronaut
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:19:16 UTC No. 16457349
Crazy that Elon will have to 100x the US lox production if he wants his starship cadence to be a reality
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:25:10 UTC No. 16457355
>>16457349
That Starship rapid cadency is not even a serious plan, and won't be for the next few years.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:34:07 UTC No. 16457367
>>16457349
I'm surprised he hasnt given any help to Casey Handmer with his rube goldberg co2 to oxygen machine. Especially since its powered by Ssolar which Musk always shills. That tech is needed to 100x lox production without devistating the environment.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:03:41 UTC No. 16457386
I cannot wait for all the tears on here come next Tuesday.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:06:54 UTC No. 16457392
>>16457338
I want to see the world where shuttle had the original smaller wings. She already flew like a brick, what happens if you remove 30% of the lift?
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:07:27 UTC No. 16457393
>>16457386
four years ago i didn't bring up the election once in /sfg/ because i knew trump was going to lose, and i didn't want to have to regret running my mouth when it happened. you should consider the same.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:09:12 UTC No. 16457396
>>16457393
Seems like youre doing the same this year, idiot. I wonder what that means huh?
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:17:02 UTC No. 16457404
>>16457393
4chan isn't your troon discord, you aren't afraid of running your mouth here
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:21:26 UTC No. 16457409
>>16457393
>nooo my heckin reputation on an anonymous pumpkin carving forum
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:25:16 UTC No. 16457414
Fluid transfer is planned for March 2025
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:25:56 UTC No. 16457415
>>16457414
kinky
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:26:57 UTC No. 16457416
>>16457414
Time to drain the main vein
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:49:18 UTC No. 16457440
>>16457409
based and topical
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:53:32 UTC No. 16457447
>>16457441
denaturalize musk
nationalize space
cancel starship
give gibs to niggers
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:57:54 UTC No. 16457455
>>16457260
I never knew anyone survived
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:03:28 UTC No. 16457462
>>16457441
>experts
Is anyone actually meant to buy this lol, what's the point? Trying to get MAGA people to think he's an illegal?
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:09:08 UTC No. 16457468
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:09:25 UTC No. 16457470
>>16457301
You're telling me a startup aiming to develop a single stage to orbit spaceplane has gone under? That is in sane.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:12:04 UTC No. 16457472
>>16457337
Can you give me a bullet point list of things he's been wrong about or has misled his audience on? Real question not bait
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:13:57 UTC No. 16457474
>>16457414
source?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:13:58 UTC No. 16457475
>>16457470
they were never even trying kek. it was some small group in a brick shed just scamming the british ministry of defence for contracts on hypersonic jet engines they would never produce
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:15:47 UTC No. 16457479
>>16457441
>They deport him
>China writes him a blank check
Ni hao :)
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:17:05 UTC No. 16457482
>>16457414
Here is the source
>the cadence NASA is looking for is launching on a bi-weekly basis
https://youtu.be/VyjYETLJjHs
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:19:33 UTC No. 16457484
>>16457260
>Ten seconds later Mike 'mini' Alsbury would be dead
Is that true? I thought he died when what remained of the plane crashed in the desert. Like the Challenger situation.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:19:36 UTC No. 16457485
>>16457482
4:27
CHOJNACKI [[SHA-na-KEY]] SAYS THE CAMPAIGN FOR THAT PROP TRANSFER
4:29
IS SET TO BEGIN AROUND MARCH 2025 WITH THE TEST BEING COMPLETED OVER THE SUMMER.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:20:03 UTC No. 16457486
>>16457482
Astronauts have "office hours" at SpaceX where they did walk employees and give recommendations, talk about things that they would like to have on HLS.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:25:14 UTC No. 16457489
>>16457367
>That tech is needed to 100x lox production without devistating the environment
To produce LOx on Earth you run a large air compressor array to pump dry air into a large high pressure tank, then use a combination of pre-cooling via active refrigeration and expansion cooling out of a nozzle into a collection chamber to produce liquid air in high volumes.
This dirty liquid air is then pumped into a fractional distillation column which outputs liquid oxygen, as well as other products like LN2 and liquid mixed noble gasses. No chemistry is required, and it's cheap.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:26:22 UTC No. 16457490
>>16457489
distilling air is easy but FUDniggers are desperately grasping onto any straw left.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:28:24 UTC No. 16457492
>>16457475
Yeah the fact that anyone took them seriously shows how far away from reality some space fans are, unlike me, who takes Starship seriously
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:30:01 UTC No. 16457496
>>16457490
It's almost cute, like the bugs that cling to the underside of rocks and run around when you flip them over
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:31:34 UTC No. 16457497
>>16457482
Should clarify that its' bi-weekly per pad
>Week 1 - Pad A
>Week 2 - Pad B
>Week 3 - Pad A
That interview has actually made me more optimistic for their chances to actually get an uncrewed HLS demo by 26, I still want an update on the mock-up though
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:32:33 UTC No. 16457499
>>16457253
Throughout much of human history and prehistory bride kidnapping has been widely practiced.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:35:12 UTC No. 16457502
>>16457441
Did you know that you can just make a fake screenshot and retards on this site will believe it?
https://x.com/search?q=from%3ABBCBr
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:38:11 UTC No. 16457504
>>16457497
>Starship could be launching once per week in 2025
I'm ready to be hurt again
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:39:06 UTC No. 16457506
>>16457468
Distasteful.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:39:51 UTC No. 16457508
>>16457506
stfu no-fun nigger
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:41:04 UTC No. 16457509
>>16457489
What can be done with the enormous amount of excess LN? Is there any use of LN that will become viable with much lower cost?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:49:29 UTC No. 16457516
>>16457509
put the excess LN on starships and ship it to orbital storage
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:50:12 UTC No. 16457517
>>16457506
maybe he shouldn't have pulled the lever
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:53:53 UTC No. 16457522
>>16457509
One pertinent use would be as a coolant for the compressed air vessels, making the entire plant more efficient and avoiding a gigantic overproduction of nitrogen (and therefore avoid needing to somehow solve transporting and distributing the LN). Imagine Phoenix offers to pay for a buried liquid nitrogen pipeline and uses it for district cooling of roads and public spaces, lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 23:19:38 UTC No. 16457539
Elon lost US citizenship
Billions must learn Chinese
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 23:39:36 UTC No. 16457553
Rogue Planets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1h
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 23:59:24 UTC No. 16457565
>>16457559
>another energiafag ITT
COMRADE
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 23:59:53 UTC No. 16457566
>>16457497
did the approval for 25 launches per year out of starbase go through yet? or are they still limited to 5 or 10
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:01:10 UTC No. 16457567
>>16457565
I miss it ;_;
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:01:51 UTC No. 16457569
>>16457553
Love this guy!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:04:59 UTC No. 16457572
>>16457509
Make a cubic-gauche nitrogen factory for the next generation of rocket engines that are 100% green, require no oxidizer and are completely renewable.
Just a thought.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:08:28 UTC No. 16457578
>>16457562
>the way that nose opens
this would have never worked kek.
i remember seeing this image over a decade ago, takes me back to the time of falcon xx
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:22:01 UTC No. 16457587
>>16457583
spaceguy5 said sapcex fans would not like the hls interior. what does he know that we are missing?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:24:29 UTC No. 16457589
>>16457587
i think he has mistaken the interior of his janitor closest with hls
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:25:58 UTC No. 16457590
>>16457583
But what about the mag boots.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:32:17 UTC No. 16457592
>>16457560
reminder that the Russkies only built it because they thought the Amerikanskis couldn't have made something so useless
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:33:07 UTC No. 16457594
>>16457592
They built it because any excuse for big rogget is a good reason.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:34:30 UTC No. 16457596
>>16457592
>they thought the Amerikanskis couldn't have made something so useless
i dont get what the military capability of shuttle was meant to be.
capture enemy satelites? good luck when they build them with a self destruct.
conduct a single orbit mission from vandenberg? what is even the military advantage of that?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:36:11 UTC No. 16457597
>>16457596
the chair force must have been smoking the good stuff
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:37:33 UTC No. 16457599
>>16457596
It was an elaborate joke.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:41:35 UTC No. 16457601
>>16457587
He probably thinks we're wanting/expecting some ultra-sleek minimalistic Dragon-esque interior when that's exactly what I'm hoping we don't see.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:56:34 UTC No. 16457612
>>16457601
the minimalism and design over function spacexdoes with interiors and suits is the worst aspect of the company.
SpaceX should focus on doing it the best they can and it will end up looking iconic.
SpaceX suit design is so dire that the ULA suits would actually look better if they were white instead of retarded blue
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:57:56 UTC No. 16457614
>>16457612
>the ULA suits
huh
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:03:40 UTC No. 16457617
>>16457614
The blue ones they use on memeliner
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:05:52 UTC No. 16457619
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:10:38 UTC No. 16457622
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:14:15 UTC No. 16457623
>>16457612
Sounds like you're promoting style over function. You want equipment to look like le based gemini/apollo program stuff because to you that's "comfy"
>SpaceX suit design is so dire
In what sense? It's there to do a job and it appears to do it very well.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:15:24 UTC No. 16457624
>>16457509
Export it to Mars. Increase Mars' atmosphere, and reduce Earth's atmosphere. Win-win
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:30:49 UTC No. 16457630
>>16457489
I bet they can undercut other companies that produce all the trace element gasses through economies of scale so there's a product. As someone else suggested, district cooling through pipelines is an option, but that's going to be location dependant. Can also yugely undercut anyone who sells liquid nitrogen. Not going to pay for the giant setup that will be needed but could take some of the sting out I imagine.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:31:16 UTC No. 16457631
>>16457583
>Prop transfer now Q3 2025
Was Q1 2025 earlier this year after HLS and AIII got delayed to September 2026.
Guess HLS is ~6 months late compared to this timeline.
Not that SLS and Orion will be ready for Early 2027.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:40:44 UTC No. 16457638
>>16457635
As should be expected.
Out of all the VTVL demo videos from China I've seen, only one doesn't look obviously flywheel stabilized.
Inherent issues with engineering culture in China. They can't even mix concrete properly unless they have a state official holding their family hostage.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:42:15 UTC No. 16457640
>>16457619
That was Dodd doing the floss?? Holy shit hes even more of a Redditor than I thought.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:44:35 UTC No. 16457642
fuck you
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:44:54 UTC No. 16457643
>>16457638
flywheel stabilized rocket boosters????
the flywheel would have to be massively massive, how could they possibly fly it?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:45:59 UTC No. 16457645
>>16457642
what has you perturbed today, emotionally unstable anon?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:46:08 UTC No. 16457646
>>16457642
Who are you saying this to
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:46:50 UTC No. 16457647
>>16457643
Because they're just hop tests, not upper atmosphere shit.
Make the payload 50% fuel and 50% flywheel. You can even see gyroscopic precession on one or two of the landings as soon as the legs touch the ground.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:47:42 UTC No. 16457648
>>16457645
I also post ___ you things since its funny to pretend to be that anon but I think this is the original
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:48:18 UTC No. 16457650
>>16457648
giant pussy
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:49:46 UTC No. 16457651
>>16457646
same guy as this >>16456529
and probably the one making the comments like this: >>16446249
probably the mentally unstable early stager who's had a stick up his ass ever since he got banned for spamming the catalog with fake stages during the booster catch.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:53:29 UTC No. 16457653
Estimating the size based on the Tianhe module, it seems that the Haolong cargo spaceplane will be roughly comparable to X37B, although a wider (both fuselage and wingspan).
Considering lack of service module, compactness of having a fully reusable spaceplane with both engines and pressurised docking port and access from behind without any "visible" "oms pod" ,I don't expect it to have payload much higher than the required minimum (1.8t up, 2t down,7m^3 pressurized )
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 01:58:45 UTC No. 16457658
>>16457587
He probably thinks we are expecting the whole volume to be habitat and a giant unpressurized garage is going to make us sad
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:00:05 UTC No. 16457660
>>16457631
>march is Q3
??????????????
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:01:00 UTC No. 16457662
>>16457660
reread
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:01:17 UTC No. 16457663
wen IFT-6?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:03:35 UTC No. 16457665
>>16457663
No one (including SpaceX) knows
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:05:33 UTC No. 16457667
>>16457337
I recall pictures of him being posted here and he's not.
Also there was someone calling him a "larper" in the comments of his recent shartliner video lel.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:06:50 UTC No. 16457668
>>16457663
NET Second half of November.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:07:09 UTC No. 16457669
A quick bit of maths using prices I could find available.
4k tonnes oxygen per starship full stack launch works out that you need about 19k tonnes of atmosphere put through distillation which yields
34.5t Neon per launch, $330 per kg, 11.38m
10t Helium per launch, $30-70 per kg, 300k-700k
2t Krypton per launch, $2-5k per kg, 4-10m
So somewhere between $16-22m per starship launch at those market rates. Can you find buyers for that much gas if launching super regularly? Probably not but that covers their helium and argon needs and will definitely help fund the whole operation.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:11:50 UTC No. 16457673
>>16457669
helium and krypton needs sorry brain fart
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:17:44 UTC No. 16457679
>>16457669
what the hell there's that much helium just sitting around in the air? I thought the point was you had to mine it and then it was unrecoverable. how is helium shortage a real thing?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:18:17 UTC No. 16457680
>>16457669
inb4 SpaceX switches back to krypton thrusters for starlink because they have so-damn much.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:19:45 UTC No. 16457682
>>16457679
Cost. Always cost.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:21:56 UTC No. 16457685
>>16457680
No, because Elon will make some awful Superman joke
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 02:31:45 UTC No. 16457695
>>16457679
Wait until you figure out that most of the world doesn't actually believe fossil fuels are organic in origin.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:15:32 UTC No. 16457723
>>16457722
haters will say its fake
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:20:03 UTC No. 16457728
>>16457722
idk, looks unfeasible. I think wire catch is the future of booster reuse.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:51:01 UTC No. 16457745
>>16457737
Ars is not an european website. And its average commenter is far worse than anything that could ever come out of that entire continent.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 04:09:46 UTC No. 16457764
>>16457475
There's a video you can find on YouTube if you look around of Skylon's "factory" and it's the most direshit. I am talking pre-Falcon 1 success SpaceX-tier shit. Which you think at first, "Okay, well, they're just starting out!" And then you remember they've been around for like forty years.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 04:12:42 UTC No. 16457769
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 04:20:12 UTC No. 16457772
>>16457669
I am retarded. Are you talking about distilling the atmosphere to acquire liquid oxygen and then selling the accumulated trace gases that you aren't going to use?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 04:52:30 UTC No. 16457788
>>16457772
I just realised I am also retarded and that it's probably not feasible because neon, helium and argon have liquefaction points around -250 compared to -180. I guess it's still doable but it's probably super energy intensive to cool it down that much more.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 04:52:48 UTC No. 16457789
>>16457772
Das rite. It's their plan, anyway.
Good plan imo.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 05:12:22 UTC No. 16457800
>>16457788
>>16457789
It doesn't work. The energy alone would cost more than the market rate of those elements.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 05:15:46 UTC No. 16457801
>>16457800
If only they knew someone who could help them vertically integrate power.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 05:28:02 UTC No. 16457808
>>16457801
They couldn't get approval on the plant near Boca, forget about the amount of energy they'd need for this.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 06:42:45 UTC No. 16457859
>>16457441
BBC is a tabloid news outlet. Posting this is a ridiculous waste of everyone's time.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 07:05:19 UTC No. 16457871
>>16457313
good creepypasta but
>normies actually believe this is real
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:01:00 UTC No. 16457900
MAGA folk should bet the farm on Elonโs fraudulent voter scheme and his fake tickets to nowhere in space. Face it, youre never going to Mars with Leon Scamusk at the helm. Better hope NASA comes in to save SpaceX and that Kamala goes easy on them by jailing Musk only and not the entire upper management.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:05:55 UTC No. 16457903
https://x.com/RealPatrickWebb/statu
It begins.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:08:59 UTC No. 16457904
>>16457509
Convert it to Ammonia and start stocking up on fertilizer for Martian farms
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:09:41 UTC No. 16457905
>>16457337
he's harmless. and he's not obese!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:11:20 UTC No. 16457906
>>16457502
Care to exaplain, muskrats?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:12:30 UTC No. 16457907
>>16457906
>Care to explain
Nope.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:13:30 UTC No. 16457909
>>16457482
Thank you for sharing, cool to see
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:14:26 UTC No. 16457911
>>16457900
Checked
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:16:02 UTC No. 16457913
>>16457906
Whatever happened to that pedo guy?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:22:18 UTC No. 16457915
spacex can do like 5 launches per year from starbase?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:23:50 UTC No. 16457917
>>16457915
They've filed for 25. The Human Landing System deputy director said they're aiming for a launch rate of one flight every two weeks next year.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:24:14 UTC No. 16457918
>>16457913
Off fucking kids in caves in Thailand.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:26:34 UTC No. 16457919
>>16457906
So even Trump was after him? Hmmm
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:28:48 UTC No. 16457920
>>16457919
Every one wants to pretend that anything will change with trump as a president, but the reality is that nothing will change and all the actual people in charge will be the same.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:33:47 UTC No. 16457921
>>16457441
>>16457906
Not spaceflight
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:35:11 UTC No. 16457924
>>16457767
Falcon Nigger
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:49:51 UTC No. 16457932
>>16457920
Your preemptive cope is delicious
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:58:23 UTC No. 16457934
>>16457932
nta but he's right, i know there's a lot of tourists right now who only heard about spacex because of these election shenanigans but while trump winning would be good (it would probably stop the death cult from putting more pressure on), there's not going to be some dramatic change in who's in charge. all those old as fuck politicians who don't give a shit about spaceflight will still be in the senate and trump will only have marginal effect.
i saw this same shit during 2016 lol, why does everyone so vastly overstate the amount of power and influence that the president has?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:00:50 UTC No. 16457935
>>16457934
Oh so you think Kamala isnt going to go after Elmo and instate righteous people that will prosecute the fuck out of his treasonous ass?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:09:28 UTC No. 16457936
>>16457906
Not spaceflight, kill yourself
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:18:51 UTC No. 16457939
>>16457935
you're such a fucking retard, i literally just told you that preventing that will probably be prevented by a trump presidency, and nothing else will happen.
did you even read my post or did your eyes just go red with rage because i'm not sucking off politicians as hard as you are?
it's a fucking game dumbass, who's in the presidential seat has only marginal effect on the state of this country, there are many other, more complex, more hidden factors at play. but that doesn't appeal to sports-team brained people as much.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:19:51 UTC No. 16457940
>>16457939
*ignore the first prevented
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:27:27 UTC No. 16457942
Christ, this place sucks dick at night. Starbase and Cape Canaveral time are the only important time zones on Earth, every single night this gets proven by the dramatic drop in quality posts. Basically, check the live cams at Starbase, if its dark there, this place can be totally ignored. Its not like anyone from irrelevant and incompetent places, in the middle of the American night have "news" or anything important to say, its just shitposting all night long, every night. Maybe you non-Americans should just focus on making cool space payloads, and hire a lunch company from America. Europe could make a last grasp at relevance if they put 100% of their resources into telescopes, probes, instruments and landers, clearly launch vehicles are not within your grasp.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:33:02 UTC No. 16457947
>>16457276
Inspiration for Mouthwashing.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:34:59 UTC No. 16457948
>>16457942
It's mostly the Asian continent up until probably... now-ish.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:37:16 UTC No. 16457949
>>16457942
European communists are more interesting in regulating SpaceX and Starlink
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:39:49 UTC No. 16457951
>>16457947
If you are the anon who originally posted about Anya and Mouthwashing like a week ago, let me tell you that I've been autistically obsessed with this game ever since, aaahh fuck you.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:57:59 UTC No. 16457957
>>16457942
European communists are more interested in regulating SpaceX and Starlink
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:04:38 UTC No. 16457963
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:06:02 UTC No. 16457965
>>16457963
sfg is only 3 people
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:07:17 UTC No. 16457967
>>16457965
And I'm all three of them.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:07:41 UTC No. 16457968
>>16457965
3 people or not, why would he say the exact same thing twice? unless its a joke it seems like a bot misfire. but who would benefit from bots making mild statements on 4chan?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:08:40 UTC No. 16457970
What happened to anon who started building his own rocket engine? Did die in an explosion?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:09:48 UTC No. 16457972
>>16457968
Maybe it's a bot, maybe it's not. Who cares? We're stuck with them anyway.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:12:57 UTC No. 16457974
>>16457669
>34.5t Neon per launch, $330 per kg, 11.38m
neon STARBASE sign when?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:15:06 UTC No. 16457975
>>16457679
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha
You only have to mine it to find large quantities of it that got trapped instead of leaving the planet.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:21:04 UTC No. 16457977
>>16457971
This is impressive and high budget, it looks ready for deployment. Notice the fine details, such as the Rover Cam taking this excellent image has Martian dust all over its lens. In reality this would actually happen, so they accounted for most of the unknown unknowns, already!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:27:18 UTC No. 16457980
>>16457963
>>16457957
Tranny
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:28:18 UTC No. 16457981
>>16457472
No he can't, he probably doesn't even believe what he said. It's just a meme cause pressure fed astronaut called him a reddit larper in one of his videos without justification.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:29:15 UTC No. 16457982
>>16457472
You're arguing with a reddit tranny that posts thundernigger
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:31:39 UTC No. 16457985
>>16457980
source?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:35:39 UTC No. 16457987
>>16457985
common sense
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:37:52 UTC No. 16457988
>>16457981
>I'll mindlessly repeat what a youtuber said
Why are so many "people" like this? It's such a common behaviour.
>"Why is this movie bad?"
>"The youtuber said so, watch his review."
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:39:57 UTC No. 16457991
>>16457987
so no source.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:42:18 UTC No. 16457992
>>16457596
Best idea I've ever heard is rather to retrieve american spy satellites. See back when the air force got involved in the shuttle program they still used actual film in their spy sats, which means it couldn't be wirelessly transmitted and you had to go retrieve the film when the whole sat reentered. This was painful and expensive so what the idea was was to go the spy sats in the orbiter, take out the film and put new film in and then bring it back down like that. Was definitely better than what they were doing before.
Then digital cameras were invented. Suddenly the air force wasn't interested in the shuttle anymore.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:47:17 UTC No. 16457996
>>16457971
India on course to surpass Russia and Europe, of course.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:48:08 UTC No. 16457999
>>16457971
Looks like something a dung beetle deposited there. Fitting.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:49:26 UTC No. 16458001
>>16457951
No, that was me. You are welcome.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:56:04 UTC No. 16458007
>>16457991
so, you're skeptic about common sense?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:56:12 UTC No. 16458008
>>16457260
release the footage
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 10:59:52 UTC No. 16458013
>>16458001
kek, it was quite a trip. I loved the Evangelion references, too.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:00:43 UTC No. 16458014
>>16457988
He's not doing it cause he believes what pfa said, he's doing it cause what pfa said pissed a lot of people off.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:08:47 UTC No. 16458019
>>16458007
no, but appealing to common sense, when that's not what you're using, and also not providing a real source in substitutes, is bad.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:13:25 UTC No. 16458023
>>16458007
hey, that sounds familiar.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:18:13 UTC No. 16458027
>>16458023
so the guy calling people trannies was common sense sceptic all along?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:34:58 UTC No. 16458037
fags
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:36:58 UTC No. 16458039
>>16458037
look at him. he's GLOWING
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:41:49 UTC No. 16458042
>>16458037
early stager seething
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:42:57 UTC No. 16458044
I wonder if mass immigration to western countries and the millstone they'll have around their neck because of it is going to make the future of space flight and human expansion unfeasible.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:45:38 UTC No. 16458047
>>16458044
humans will expand to the other planets but they will all be poc
you WILL live on mars in your goypod, you WILL have a diverse ethnically balanced crew, you WILL eat your recycled vegan goyslop
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:48:21 UTC No. 16458048
>>16458047
I don't mind if people are high caste and intelligent, or at least civilised. But that isn't the description of 90% of our new neighbours and doctors and engineers and heart surgeons. Idk why we can't just be left to have our own functioning society without the burden.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:04:20 UTC No. 16458055
>>16458048
>I don't mind if people are high caste and intelligent, or at least civilised
Regression to the mean means that you should mind. Victor Glover may be a fine and able fellow but reason tells you that you don't want his grandkids in your habitat
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:04:58 UTC No. 16458056
>>16458044
We just need to get the self sustaining city on Mars. At that point an Earth collapse just means no refugees
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:07:12 UTC No. 16458057
>>16458055
Yeah, I guess there is no way to cope about this. It is only a bad thing and it does threaten the future of humanity. Imagine if africa had nukes. That's a fucking spooky thought. I guess western countries have enough agents to ensure that does not happen.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:15:35 UTC No. 16458061
>>16458057
If Africa had nukes they'd blow up in the silo because no one took care of the solids or the door or something
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:20:47 UTC No. 16458065
You know, as a kid, I used to watch all these stupid drama shows on TV, and along with the stupid chinese/japanese cartoons, I thought they were so unrealistic that I sorta stopped watching them. But now as I follow the space industry, with Musk industry, I see all the cliched drama surrounding it. The backstabbing villains, the fake crocodile tears, the concerned trolls, the nepotistic bought/paid regulatory agencies, the political sabatoges, the corrupt officials, the corrupt media, etc.
Like what the fuck, how are real life emulating the "unrealistic" cartoon shits so closely?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:23:25 UTC No. 16458066
>>16457951
On god I just saw an LP of this yesterday and have never posted about it outside of /v/
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:26:34 UTC No. 16458069
>>16458037
fuck-you-poster, it's over
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:34:52 UTC No. 16458078
>>16458065
history knowers know that it's always been a clown world.
most people just didn't know about the clown facts.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:36:05 UTC No. 16458079
>>16457992
This makes sense. So Shuttle was completely useless for the military when it started flying kek.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:43:14 UTC No. 16458084
>>16458079
*basedttle
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:50:22 UTC No. 16458087
>>16458084
yikes...
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:51:09 UTC No. 16458088
>>16458087
meant to say sรณyttle, fuck moot
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:53:01 UTC No. 16458089
>>16458065
It's always been a high school lunch room all the way up
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:53:24 UTC No. 16458090
>>16458061
>>16458057
nukes are about as expensive and ddifficult to maintain as they are to newly manufacture. Only about 15% of russias nukes work despite them being an alltogether more developed species compared to bantu. If Africans are able to get and maintain nukes then they have to pass a level of regime competency which ensures they probably wont go tribal warfare on one another. South African whites disposed of their nukes because of fear of negroes with the button, but by 2024 none of those nukes would be in working order anyway. Look at Jeets and Pakis for example. They can maintain nukes and their governments are competent enough to not go to war over random shit, despite ruling 90IQ dalits
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:53:33 UTC No. 16458091
>>16458065
Humans are very petty and vindictive. They gossip endlessly and cause drama. Mostly the weaker individuals cause divides and seperate groups into factions to gain a sense of control and support.
Unironically a society with functioning autists would be a straight utopia. No politics because everyone knows objective fact from fiction. Autismo dictator taking us to colonise Ma.... oh wait...
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:54:46 UTC No. 16458093
>>16457349
He will just build some air liquefaction plants on site. He has the cash to do it.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:56:39 UTC No. 16458094
>>16458093
>some air liquefaction plants on site
don't they need a loicense for this?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:58:01 UTC No. 16458097
>>16457349
>there's a demand for it
>there are no suppliers willing to step up for the free money
>musk builds his own supply chain
Same thing with lithium refining, same thing with battery production, samething with electric vehicles, same thing with rocket industry, and now same thing with lox, methane, etc.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:58:44 UTC No. 16458098
>>16458090
oh boy you're gonna get a bunch of tankies angry with this one.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:01:10 UTC No. 16458102
>>16458091
The fact that normgroids feed off gossip and drama fries my brain. we are like a different species. Most normgroid 'men' have minds almost indistinguishable from women.
Truth and what is good/bad is dictated by the herd and the feelings. I never trust a normgroid who is into SpaceX and Mars. You can bet your ass they would not give a shit if there wasnt a social ecosystem around it.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:05:28 UTC No. 16458106
>>16457722
fuck, they already caught up?!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:05:49 UTC No. 16458107
>>16457942
Just rangeban the rest of the world, including the People's Republic of California
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:06:15 UTC No. 16458108
>>16457260
I thought Alsbury was just unconscious too, but never woke up in time and didnt eject. Was he really killed that quick?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:06:26 UTC No. 16458109
>>16458097
Literally Factorio.
Relatedly, as someone who has never played Factorio, how's the new space expansion?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:06:38 UTC No. 16458110
>>16458102
I discussed empathy with a friend and that was an unbelievable experience. I keep getting told autismos have no empathy, I have no empathy etc. But I do care about people. Apparently empathy is actually just putting yourself in someones shoes and then imagining the experience as if it were you. I had a friend who's parents divorced, I don't care, not my parents, but I was sad for him and invited him around a lot because it was sad to see him sad. I imagined that to be empathy but actually it's some egocentric concept where you imagine it to be you in that situation, therefore you are sad for yourself so that translates to being sad for someone else. Like I don't imagine Laika as if it was my own dog, I imagine the dog being taken off the street, the traumatic experience it must have experienced and how it's life was cut short.
Normal people are fucking weird and the more I learn about my differences and the way most people think, no wonder world is falling apart.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:09:16 UTC No. 16458113
>>16457971
If they evacuate the air in the capsule or drop it from a crane to kill the inhabitants they'll get an even more faithful simulation of an Indian manned spaceflight mission.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:11:20 UTC No. 16458118
>>16458108
>The coronerโs section of the Kern County (California) Sheriffโs Office performed an autopsy on the copilot,
which determined that his cause of death was multiple blunt force trauma.
Not really sure if this means he was whacked by debris during the break up, or he was killed on impact with the ground.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:13:56 UTC No. 16458121
>>16458094
Why would they? You could ask that question about anything. The only thing they might release into the air is... air.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:16:06 UTC No. 16458125
>>16458091
>Unironically a society with functioning autists would be a straight utopia
SpaceX basically is this already. Just engineers all the way up. Bodes well
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:16:42 UTC No. 16458126
>>16458078
thank you for correcting the clown record
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:18:21 UTC No. 16458128
>>16458090
>Only about 15% of russias nukes work
Source?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:22:22 UTC No. 16458131
>>16458128
He did some experiments in his head. The reliability of their nuclear forces would be top secret knowledge whether the source was Russians or our glowies.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:22:34 UTC No. 16458132
unironically, why don't we just settle the moon first? why go to mars, where it's far more dangerous and there's no real benefit?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:23:20 UTC No. 16458133
>>16458126
The clowning will continue until morale improves, like it or not.
We need D.O.G.E. more than ever.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:24:31 UTC No. 16458135
>>16458132
we are settling both, whats the problem? moon is closer so has its benefits. mars is closer to the asteroid belt (less delta V to get to any asteroid from mars than Earth to moon). plus the abundant co2 and water on mars is a huge plus for any colony.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:29:47 UTC No. 16458137
>>16458132
>unironically, why don't we just settle low earth orbit first? why go to the moon, where it's far more dangerous and there's no real benefit?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:30:13 UTC No. 16458138
>>16458128
He doesn't have one, but it's right to question the state of their missiles given how poor the regular military is and how expensive maintaining a nuclear deterrent is(let alone one supposedly larger than the USA's).
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:32:06 UTC No. 16458141
>>16458135
mars is more dangerous. We can get useful practice on the moon first
>>16458137
there's resources on the moon though.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:35:52 UTC No. 16458146
>>16458138
>nukes
>missles
Two different things
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:41:32 UTC No. 16458152
>>16458128
the fact that most industry required for maintaining the delivery systems either was part of a different post-soviet state, was sold off, or otherwise decayed.
most of the missiles they claim to have still use hypergolics and a country with that kind of budget simply cannot keep the liner on all of them intact forever, it's pretty much a garuantee that most of their ICBM's from more than 20 years ago are decayed.
the nukes i can't speak for, the primary charge probably still works but i can't speak for the electronics or the hydrogen charge.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:43:07 UTC No. 16458156
Magats, you crying yet?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:44:00 UTC No. 16458157
>>16458156
no, why?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:44:36 UTC No. 16458158
>>16458157
Fag
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:45:04 UTC No. 16458159
>>16457788
Sell is as โmisc noble gas mixtureโ for a discount.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:45:06 UTC No. 16458160
>>16458152
>ask for source about nukes
>people keep talking about missiles
Why?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:45:11 UTC No. 16458161
>>16457256
lol did you notice the gorilla?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:45:22 UTC No. 16458162
>>16458158
not an argument. now answer like an adult. why should we be crying?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:45:59 UTC No. 16458163
>>16458110
Yeah, what we experience is sympathy rather than empathy. In my experience autistis seem to feel more sympathy than normal people, probably because that neural pathway is used more heavily compared to how it would be in someone who can feel both sympathy and empathy.
Autistic sympathy is probably why autists are vastly overrepresented in the set of people who care about humanites future beyond their own lifetimes. It always baffles me when people openly say they don't care about what happens when they die.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:47:11 UTC No. 16458166
>>16458157
The melon felon is losing in a landslide in just a few days!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:48:09 UTC No. 16458167
>>16458166
not really. the polls are all showing a trump win. but you dont want to hear that
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:49:44 UTC No. 16458169
>>16458160
Them nukes ain't going anywhere without missiles to put em on.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:50:26 UTC No. 16458170
>>16458167
i cant wait to drink the tears of magachuds from my blue origin mug.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:50:45 UTC No. 16458171
>>16458167
Come on anon, everyone with half a brain knows that polls are pointless nowadays.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:51:29 UTC No. 16458172
>>16458167
I thought all polls are fake or is it only real if your guy is winning?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:51:33 UTC No. 16458173
>>16458171
2020 and 2016 they eneded up being biased towards the dems. "the polls are off" is true, but always in the same direction. so if they are predicting a trump win that tells us...?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:51:44 UTC No. 16458174
>>16458169
You said nukes, not missiles. I never asked for a source about missiles, I asked for one about the nuke claim.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:52:19 UTC No. 16458175
>>16458167
If you havent noticed, they most definetly arent. You will reply with cope after checking them saying theyre all phony but come next Tuesday you will be crying like a little bitch
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:52:41 UTC No. 16458176
>>16458173
the polls arent off, its just that demonrats always win the popular vote
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:54:00 UTC No. 16458178
>>16458175
the polls arent phony, they are spot on. currently averaging at trump + in the popular vote. dems need +3 to have a 90% chance to win.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:56:01 UTC No. 16458179
>>16458178
Marist gave her +3 idiot, and in the swing states at that and they got 2020 spot on. They also did polling showing Rs did infact cannibalize the election day vote with early voting, and turnout is lower among men both during early and for those making plans to vote. Its fucking over
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:56:16 UTC No. 16458180
>>16458177
*crisps her butt to shreds during reentry*
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:59:16 UTC No. 16458182
>>16458180
h-hot
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:02:24 UTC No. 16458185
>>16458179
Cool. If you're so confident why not put your money where your mouth is and cash in.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:03:57 UTC No. 16458188
>>16458160
because it's kind of irrelevant.
no delivery system = no weapon.
any nukes they cannot launch, they might as well not have.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:04:57 UTC No. 16458189
>>16458187
who the fuck is that? it sure as hell isn't musk
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:05:17 UTC No. 16458191
>>16458174
well i'm not the guy who originally made the nuke claim, just pointed out that it doesn't really matter whether or not we're talking about nukes or missiles, both are necessary for a nuclear weapon to actually be used.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:05:28 UTC No. 16458192
>>16458188
>nukes are a solely strategic weapon
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:06:29 UTC No. 16458193
>>16458163
>It always baffles me when people openly say they don't care about what happens when they die
It's very common and extremely selfish and frankly vile. I cannot fathom not wanting to leave some shred of positivity on humanity. I don't care for my nation, it does not care for me. But I want humanity to conquer the galaxy. If there are no humans or trace of humans in 1 million year it'd be absolutely devastating waste of potential.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:06:46 UTC No. 16458195
>>16458192
they are mostly a strategic weapon yeah.
tactical use of nuclear weapons would prolly escalate to strategic pretty fast.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:07:43 UTC No. 16458197
>>16458192
For the moment they kind of are. Their use against a non nuclear state guarantees massive proliferation and I'm sure the chinks told them they absolutely don't want that.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:09:15 UTC No. 16458199
>>16458189
youre faceblind (sign of autism)
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:09:20 UTC No. 16458200
>>16458194
Wrong. Kamala will prosecute Elmo Husk once shes in.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:09:50 UTC No. 16458201
>>16458109
High IQ, high agency people exert their will upon the world. This is what Musk hires in people. High agency and high IQ. Anyone who says "it cant be done" without offering up a 1st principle analysis is getting fired from his company. And the one that hires will be one that can do any job barring physics law and even then it can be engineered around the limitations.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:10:01 UTC No. 16458202
in the spirit of spooky time, what do you guys think of literal graveyard orbits.
do you think future belt inhabitants would leave their dead in transponder-marked space coffins in designated resting place orbits?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:11:02 UTC No. 16458203
>>16458200
it's not that simple.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:12:48 UTC No. 16458204
>>16458202
i'd prefer if we just make a planetoid out of corpses instead.
keep piling dead bodies onto eachother until their gravity is strong enough to stand on, then keep going.
i want a 200km diameter sphere of corpses in space.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:13:08 UTC No. 16458205
>>16458128
>Source?
It is /k/anon for /k/atamites
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:14:21 UTC No. 16458206
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:14:24 UTC No. 16458207
>>16458205
it's horseshit, but the fact that they can only launch a tiny amount of the nukes they possess is very much true.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:18:21 UTC No. 16458212
>>16458205
>h-haha look guys russia is le based and trad
so embarrassing.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:18:53 UTC No. 16458213
>>16458207
Russians have stolen and sold everything not nailed down since 1991, but not that particular part of the armed forces.
Right?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:19:49 UTC No. 16458216
>>16458213
YES!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:20:15 UTC No. 16458217
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/18
Elon's been talking to various nuclear physicists about nuclear engineering for his plans for Mars, along with rad shielding issues. I wonder how many extensive communications hes had with various nuclear scientists since he himself is also a physicists as well with backings from many other ties to physicists.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:20:18 UTC No. 16458218
>>16458213
stop asking questions comrade.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:21:19 UTC No. 16458219
>>16458217
solarbros is this the end?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:21:56 UTC No. 16458221
>>16458219
You will live in the cave with your reactors.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:22:33 UTC No. 16458222
>>16458219
Solar is guaranteed. The question has always been can they ALSO get nuclear to augment it, but thats a question for regulatory agency rather than engineering wise.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:25:38 UTC No. 16458226
>>16458199
Wait a second, face blindness is related to autism? uh oh
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:27:47 UTC No. 16458227
>>16458217
Just some fraud chinaman
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:30:27 UTC No. 16458229
>>16458199
you don't have to pretend other people are autistic just because you can't wrangle an AI
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:38:45 UTC No. 16458235
>>16458217
>>16458219
trust the plan
https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/1
>When Zubrin pointed out that it would require 6-10 football fields of solar panels to refuel a single Starship Elon said "Fine, that's what we will do".
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:40:30 UTC No. 16458236
>>16458194
>K...KEEP ME UPLINKED
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:42:18 UTC No. 16458240
>>16458235
>"Fine, that's what we will do".
Except they won't
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:48:00 UTC No. 16458242
>>16458194
Everything will change. The future is not predetermined. Our choices matter.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:54:35 UTC No. 16458247
>>16458242
Choice matter if you're someone, but democracy is just an illusion of choice.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:08:11 UTC No. 16458260
>>16458189
ai musk
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:16:35 UTC No. 16458264
did you vote yet?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:18:40 UTC No. 16458266
>>16458264
Not american faggot
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:19:22 UTC No. 16458267
>>16458266
you better be chinese cuz otherwise you don't get a seat in the spaceflight discussion
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:21:48 UTC No. 16458272
>>16458266
that not a problem in democrat states, asking for ID is banned anyway
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:26:00 UTC No. 16458276
>>16458264
Yes. I dont give a fuck about all other stuff on the ballot so I just put random stuff there. But my state doesnt matter anyway, it would only amount to popular vote cast.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:33:31 UTC No. 16458287
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:44:50 UTC No. 16458299
69.420% is the prophecy and it will come true
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:56:59 UTC No. 16458315
>>16458313
Hubble
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:57:31 UTC No. 16458317
>>16458315
Both
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:09:16 UTC No. 16458332
>>16458287
bit late with that inspect element, anon.
responding immediately might've been more believable.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:11:20 UTC No. 16458335
>>16458332
that's not me dumbass
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:16:56 UTC No. 16458342
>>16458335
Oh are you back? Did you see I fixed your stuff ^-^
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:18:24 UTC No. 16458344
>>16458182
idk if Orion should be a mentor...
What a chad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4O
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:45:10 UTC No. 16458377
>>16457906
Elon got it wrong when he called that guy a pedo and apologized, but everyone who called him a diver never apologized.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:53:36 UTC No. 16458394
>>16458090
>Only about 15% of russias nukes work
Don't look up the W47 and W58, Anon. That's those you should know of. And fuck off to /k/.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:59:16 UTC No. 16458405
>>16458394
Minutemen, Sentinel and Tridents use W76, W78, W87 and W88 warheads.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:00:29 UTC No. 16458406
>>16458405
And you will never get any reliability information about weapons currently in use unless a major and extremely severe leak happens.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:02:55 UTC No. 16458408
>>16458388
Spaceguy5 is right when he says starship doesnt really work for Mars visits by itself, let alone colonization. Zubrin is a jewish fool and Mars Direct literally doesnt acount for life support weight at all. It's impossible to keep 3 people alive in the 'tuna can' lander for 2+ years with the space available.
For a Mars Direct Starship Style you would need a separate Starship full of consumables just to keep 10 people alive.
If Starship can deliver dozens of tonnes to orbit at a comparible cost and cadence to f9, then it sure as hell can build a nuclear space ship. It's a bummer that NASA never got to fly nuclear rockets in the 70s because if they did then the precident would already be there.
A practical manned Mars archietecture will sue a nuclear space ship with Starships as the shuttle to and from Earth/Mars
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:12:07 UTC No. 16458424
>>16458408
We don't even need Starship for Mars. If someone actually wanted to go there, it could have been done 10 years ago, with a fleet of F9, Atlas V and Delta IV Heavy, but nobody is actually working towards it. All NASA does are countless studies and discussions.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:14:03 UTC No. 16458428
>>16458408
Discord tranny
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:15:53 UTC No. 16458432
>>16458428
/pol/ tranny
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:17:14 UTC No. 16458436
>>16458424
>If someone actually wanted to go there, it could have been done 10 years ago
flags and footprints is a 100 billion dollar problem if you're thrifty. nasa isn't, musk doesn't want flags and footprints, and no other group has that kind of money.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:17:53 UTC No. 16458439
>>16458432
Fuck off cross site poster. You can take your castration pill to yourself
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:31:48 UTC No. 16458470
>>16458424
true, artemis would have been easy too if it was based on a 2 stage NASA built lander assembed by 2 flights of falcon heavy. the whole hls thing is a circus. imagine giivng the most difficult and tehnically challenging thing to private enterprise. if spacex wasnt the miraculous force it is then the chance of artemis happening would be exactly 0%
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:35:31 UTC No. 16458479
https://x.com/The2x4/status/1852205
HLS interior is stupid big, 2 floors so far, horizontal beds
Artemis Astronauts will live in spacious luxury on the moon
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:36:40 UTC No. 16458483
>40ft ceiling
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:39:26 UTC No. 16458494
>>16458485
Based Blue Origin?
If Bezos tries to ape Musk I'm here for it.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:40:45 UTC No. 16458499
>>16458479
>5 bedrooms on a 2 person lander just to drive home how superior they are to everyone else
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:42:13 UTC No. 16458505
>>16458394
>russia is discussed in an in any way negative light
>instant damage control
lel
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:43:38 UTC No. 16458510
>>16458505
>5 hours later
>"instant"
Also pulling random numbers out of your ass is not "discussing"
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:47:37 UTC No. 16458518
>>16458499
>>16458479
I hope in the next HLS report, we get pictures of some of the mockups to show just how big of a difference it is, and to tease the world to the degree of opportunity at hand.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:49:33 UTC No. 16458523
>American lunar landers going from barely bigger than a broom closet to a godamn 2-story penthouse
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:49:46 UTC No. 16458524
>>16458510
i doubt i'll ever get concrete numbers, but even giving them the benefit of the doubt, it's pretty obvious they cannot support the kind of arsenal they claim to have. not to mention the fact that they go out of their way to lie about most things.
after everything seen in the last 10 years, you should know to be more than skeptical of everything that state claims.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 17:53:09 UTC No. 16458536
>>16458524
I don't doubt it. But once somebody starts pulling random numbers you quickly go from reasonable suspicion about a failed state straight into /k/ope.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:05:35 UTC No. 16458558
>>16458523
HLS Starship is expected to have a 2-story penthouse suite with an upper airlock and cargo storage, and a 1 car garage with dual redundant floor airlocks for lunar egress and an elevator to allow up to 4 astronauts to travel from the airlock to the lunar surface or 2 astronauts with several hundred kilograms of cargo per trip. Going from a broom closet to a mobile HAB is a generational leap frog by today's standards, but ironically not one at all, if the US didn't shutter its space program into sleeping dragon mode after the collapse of the USSR.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:08:20 UTC No. 16458560
>>16458536
for sure
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:13:01 UTC No. 16458572
>>16458558
>>16458523
where is the hot tub?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:15:20 UTC No. 16458576
>>16458572
hot tub is useless for over 50% of the flight profile of the ship, standing shower on the other hand is practically guaranteed as the majority of the time the ship will spend on the surface of the Moon.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:15:42 UTC No. 16458577
>>16458523
>Americans will have a moon lander bigger and more luxurious than the average European house
It makes me tear up with how beautiful that thought is.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:16:17 UTC No. 16458580
>>16458576
we need to see female astronauts showering naked to educate us in a fun and memorable way on how slow the water droplets fall.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:18:03 UTC No. 16458583
>>16458580
r9k is >>> way anon
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:19:25 UTC No. 16458589
>>16458580
Really makes me think. It's a spacious, human centric environment in completely different gravity. This hasn't existed before. Showers etc would be surreal. Imagine them doing a standing flip or something. This will be super cool
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:20:03 UTC No. 16458592
>>16458141
space (usable volume) is a resource and one that is plentiful in leo
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:20:20 UTC No. 16458593
>>16458589
Yep, videos of astronauts doing almost anything inside will be surreal, they never had that opportunity with the LEM
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:22:43 UTC No. 16458596
>>16458141
>We can get useful practice on the moon first
Like "we" got useful practice on the ISS for thirty fucking years you stupid nigger? Spending a hundred and fifty billion without having a sure answer for deep space travel? Yeah before the moon base we should practice with a moon space station, kill yourself
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:23:40 UTC No. 16458598
>>16458189
>anon learns about ai generated content
I hope you're staying warm so far from the sun
What kind of power generation do you use?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:24:22 UTC No. 16458600
>>16458589
you could probably run around the inner wall skylab style if you run quick enough
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:24:41 UTC No. 16458601
>>16458192
>nuke your own territory gambit
sasuga
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:26:04 UTC No. 16458606
>>16458572
imagine relaxing in your hot tub with champagne after a long day of looking at roggs and calling up your buddies on gateway who are stuck in a closet drinking their own piss for a week.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:26:58 UTC No. 16458607
>>16458202
If you're dumb enough to waste precious biomass, someone smarter will take it
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:29:44 UTC No. 16458610
>>16458600
Makes me wonder if there's even a reason to bother with full floors. If you weigh 30 pounds you could just climb up the wall and use a handhold
The moon might lend itself to some really weird three dimensional architectures
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:30:45 UTC No. 16458612
>>16458598
a kettle
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:32:59 UTC No. 16458616
>>16458408
Well reasoned answer
Blank insults yup shills be here
Anyway as good as nuclear maybe in space the regulatory burden is currently insurmountable. Any spare effort outside of tanker StarShip should be used to reduce bureaucracy.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:36:13 UTC No. 16458623
>>16458485
Blue Origin will be punished for Bezos holding back WaPo's endorsement
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:36:20 UTC No. 16458624
>>16458204
Using reasonable estimates of density (1 kg/l) and mass (75 kg/person) you'd need roughly 10^17 corpses. It doesn't seem very realistic. People would be mining for resources before you got to that point.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:38:22 UTC No. 16458632
>>16458505
>>16458524
Flood of lies and propaganda is all they have. If there military worked they would have done as they claimed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB8
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:39:48 UTC No. 16458637
>>16458628
>has problem being called cis though
lmao
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:40:15 UTC No. 16458638
>>16458628
Trans arc incoming?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:40:38 UTC No. 16458639
>>16458637
TTD
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:41:28 UTC No. 16458641
>>16458628
>earth LEO to mars LEO
So the nuclear shuttle that von Braun proposed 70 years ago?
Based.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:41:33 UTC No. 16458642
>>16458632
Take out those last two and you'd have a lineup to be proud of
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:42:31 UTC No. 16458645
Fuck off back to your shithole
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:42:51 UTC No. 16458646
>>16458642
replace them with firefly alpha and electron to really show the breadth of american innovation
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:42:55 UTC No. 16458647
no
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:43:19 UTC No. 16458648
>>16458645
Baby first swear word? are you a fifth grader?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:43:40 UTC No. 16458651
>>16458586
Trust the plan
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:45:15 UTC No. 16458653
>>16458645
>>16458647
(You)s aren't upvotes, you can respond to the people you are responding to.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:47:01 UTC No. 16458656
>>16458651
>Quantum rudder
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:47:22 UTC No. 16458658
>>16458651
>quantum rudder
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:48:11 UTC No. 16458660
>>16458593
People doing things in 1/6 g in a spacious shirtsleeve environment should be the end of moon landing deniers but they'll just claim cgi
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:48:38 UTC No. 16458662
>>16458651
fuckit breakthrough starshot that shit, smallest possible form factor with integrated drive, mass produce 1000000 of them and launch them all at once swarm style, prolly reach Proxima in 5 years or so
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:49:38 UTC No. 16458666
>>16458660
it's AI they're all claiming now, so fuck them
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:50:55 UTC No. 16458667
>>16458610
people are lazy and won't do the exercises to keep the necessary strength to use such a layout
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:51:23 UTC No. 16458669
>>16458660
I don't mind the space is fake guys so much now that there's about to be a whole planet without them. I guess most planets don't have them but you know what I mean
>>16458656
>>16458658
Hive mind
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:51:24 UTC No. 16458670
>>16458128
Does it matter? Like one missile can carry enough warheads to take out the entire Californian coast.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:52:17 UTC No. 16458672
>>16458662
breakthrough starshot is retarded. building 10000 really shitty probes for 1 destination? send them to every asteroid, every tno, every moon of saturn and caelus and neptune
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:53:17 UTC No. 16458674
>>16458479
>Something went wrong. Try reloading
every single time, shitty website
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:54:35 UTC No. 16458677
this girl boss absolutely dunks on your hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiA
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:55:02 UTC No. 16458678
>>16458670
The smaller pure fission nukes most likely work, but the larger boosted fission nukes most likely have not had their specialist, extremely expensive maintenance.
Anyway I keep hearing that Nasa is looking at a reusable manned spaceplane, which will use heritage SLS components. What do you guys think?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:56:14 UTC No. 16458682
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:56:40 UTC No. 16458685
>>16458674
refresh again
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:58:15 UTC No. 16458690
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:58:43 UTC No. 16458692
>>16458598
kek, I wonder why sfg is so popular in the oort cloud
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:59:16 UTC No. 16458696
>>16458670
saturation matters yeah, if you want to take out the entire californian coast, you want way more than that in order to make sure enough gets through to actually do that.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:01:16 UTC No. 16458698
Not clicking, buy an ad. Fuck you.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:02:41 UTC No. 16458700
>>16458696
the horror. hopefully they all come with proper proposition 65 label.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:04:34 UTC No. 16458703
>>16458696
Sure, but when you claim you got like 6000 warheads and in reality only like 10% actually works it's still 600 fucking warheads lmao. That's more than enough to vaporize practically every population center in the US even if only like 10% of that number makes it to the target.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:09:15 UTC No. 16458707
>>16458703
I mean 1 nuke does a lot of damage but no modern nuke is in the megaton range. Kiloton nukes to huge damage but the city still exists afterwards.
Most of them would have to target US nuclear and military infrastructure, its not like Baton Rouge and Rochester are critical targets.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:11:20 UTC No. 16458711
>>16458708
Isn't that just the airlock?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:11:30 UTC No. 16458713
>>16458708
Wow! thanks mister!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:12:53 UTC No. 16458716
>>16458703
you're mostly right but there's a bit more to it than that.
in a first strike scenario (for russia)
they'll want to not just strike population centers, but also military infrastructure, command bunkers, comm relays, and missile silos are all things you want to hit as a first striker to weaken the retaliatory strike, that's a lot of extra targets that require a lot of extra missiles.
now lets say russia is the one retaliating against a US first strike, same deal, they'll want to make sure that even if half of of their silo's and missile subs get taken out or otherwise damage, they'll have enough left to perform a proper countervalue strike.
for both of these scenarios you actually want a lot more than you would need just to hit population centers, i'm just not sure if russia has that kind of quantity anymore, they'll probably heavily wound the US in a nuclear exchange, but might not be able to outright doom them to M.A.D.
china's probably starting to reach the point where they CAN do that with their arsenal though, so they've basically replaced russia as the main strategic nuclear rival.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:13:54 UTC No. 16458718
>>16458708
art-deco-bros, it's over
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:15:57 UTC No. 16458722
>>16458707
Iirc Russian warheads are in the 0.5 to 1 MT range and the ICBMs like the SS-18 are equipped with 10 of them. That is just one missile able to launch 5 - 10 MT worth if nuclear warheads, and much more effectivally than using one big 5-10MT warhead as the damage will be spread out over a larger area than simply most of the energy going upwards.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:17:31 UTC No. 16458723
>Starship preparations to return to the Roberts Road facility
>SpaceX is laying the groundwork for expansion at its Roberts Road facility at NASAโs Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Driven by a commitment to future advancements, SpaceX continuously enhances its infrastructure along the Space Coast. These developments include new buildings, property expansions, and Starshipโs production in Florida.
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/202
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:20:10 UTC No. 16458725
>>16458722
500kt to 800kt* according to this, so not 1 MT but close to it.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:20:22 UTC No. 16458726
>>16458723
tentbros, we're back
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:24:14 UTC No. 16458729
>>16458725
>half the ICBMs use liquid propellent
lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:24:32 UTC No. 16458730
>>16458708
Better than my room
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:24:33 UTC No. 16458731
ITT we view a nuclear exchange at the most basic level of video game stats and ignore the delivery systems, target priorities, defenses, geopolitical situations etc.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:26:06 UTC No. 16458732
>>16458722
Yes but that still needs targetting concentration. San Diego stops existing but why even bomb Utah? Its not like Russia is going to launch the nukes anyway so this is all hypothetical, especially after the latest failed ICBM test.
>>16458726
Like the Native Indians knew, tents are the optimal shape.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:26:07 UTC No. 16458733
>>16458716
The loss of social capital means that America may disintegrate after even the loss of a handful of key cities. It isn't the 50s when the people would could be expected to pull together and rebuild. Race war and starvation are likely which is better than the glassing Russia would get but still VERY ugly
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:28:34 UTC No. 16458736
>>16458733
what's your favorite space ship?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:30:12 UTC No. 16458740
>>16458716
Population centers are pretty low in the importance list. Any command and control facility, silos, military ports (and deep water ones), bases. Hardened facilities would be targeted with multiple nukes and not just one. I wish the faggots at /k/ didn't dox oppenheimer twice, his threads on nuclear strategy were cool.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:36:36 UTC No. 16458745
>>16458672
>Sure, just throw away the advantage of redundancy by numbers
>Sure, just throw away the advantage of stacking photos to improve resolution
The Starchips are going to be tiny, there's no science to be done by these in the solar system that cannot be done by a larger more capable probe.
It's only purpose is getting within 1AU of Proxima Centauri b during a flyby to take some photos.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:41:46 UTC No. 16458751
>>16458745
so what is /sfg/s estimate of the minimum mass of a probe that can do useful work on arrival and transmit data back? 100 kg?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:42:20 UTC No. 16458752
>>16458708
>Tfw the airlock alone is more spacious then the LEM
Feels good man
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:43:27 UTC No. 16458754
>>16458751
>useful work
not possible. spae exploration is a dead end and completely useless for mankind
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:46:06 UTC No. 16458757
>>16458754
you're going on the no mars list
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:47:39 UTC No. 16458759
>>16458757
my death note I made in middle school has more credibility than your mars lists
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:56:35 UTC No. 16458772
>>16458217
>rad shielding
this is like the most important thing nobody is talking about
but I have a solution
on Earth, our electromagnetic field or "magnetosphere" protects us from solar radiation
so all we need to do is produce a similar field around a spaceship or colony and you're golden
problem is, you're going to need a nuclear reactor for that kind of output which necessitates internal shielding too
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:58:27 UTC No. 16458775
>>16458772
keep the engine bay pointed at the sun
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:00:43 UTC No. 16458779
>>16458708
people really need to get away from the "eggshell" white look
that shit makes you go crazy
just go with dark green instead
or even color coding
literally anything else except puke green or blue would do
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:03:07 UTC No. 16458782
>>16458779
>literally anything else
vantablack then
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:05:45 UTC No. 16458785
>>16458751
Depends on where you're going, how long you want to it to take and what you want it to do?
IKAROS weighed 500g and had dust counters and Gamma Ray detectors as instrumentation with a 14mx14m sail.
If you're talking about sending a voyager level probe (~700kg) to Alpha Centauri it'll take 40-50yrs if it can get to 0.1c, the sail would be absolutely massive as well; 1kmx1km at minimum.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:11:35 UTC No. 16458793
>>16458377
>Elon got it wrong when he called that guy a pedo and apologized
He was probably right, but couldn't prove it which thus necessitated the apology.
>white guy living in Thailand
>not a sexual deviant
The odds are VERY slim but that isn't sufficient proof in a lawsuit.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:14:00 UTC No. 16458794
Why is Elon terminally online?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:15:54 UTC No. 16458798
>>16457337
>(he's obese)
He literally isn't. You're a liar, nobody should trust YOU.
face cam in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEu
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:18:31 UTC No. 16458799
>>16458677
lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:20:02 UTC No. 16458803
>>16458772
not funny
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:21:37 UTC No. 16458805
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:22:15 UTC No. 16458806
>>16458798
trannies on suicide watch
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:24:34 UTC No. 16458810
>>16458772
>, you're going to need a nuclear reactor for that kind of output which necessitates internal shielding too
Nonsense. Just put it on the end of a very long boom, then you only need enough shielding to shadow the habitat portion of the craft.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:35:58 UTC No. 16458822
>>16458805
thats not a woman...
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:35:59 UTC No. 16458824
>>16458799
Kek this response should work better than it does. Why is video essayist the #1 career path of trannies? Imagine caring about the opinions of the clinically insane
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:36:50 UTC No. 16458827
>>16458822
>implying I even clicked it
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:37:52 UTC No. 16458828
https://www.mdpi.com/2673-592X/3/1/
>A Review of Magnetic Shielding Technology for Space Radiation
"use superconducting magnets to effectively recreate the benefit of Earthโs magnetic field and deflect incoming space radiation before it ever reaches the spacecraft. This type of radiation shielding technology has been studied since the dawn of human space exploration in the 1960s"
>superconducting magnets are a key component in nuclear fusion reactors
>>16458810
>put it on the end of a very long boom
but how are you supposed to cool it down like that
sounds kind of complicated, like if something goes wrong it's the most dangerous EVA ever just to attempt remediation
maybe I just don't know enough about it
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:44:13 UTC No. 16458836
>>16458820
>ESG outs itself as a BO paid opp.
typical
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:45:36 UTC No. 16458839
>>16458820
still seething that his little article only created 2 months of delays rather than the indefinite closure of starbase as he promised
lel.
we really should put crazies like this into isolated chambers again.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:47:34 UTC No. 16458841
>>16458828
>if something goes wrong it's the most dangerous EVA ever just to attempt remediation
And putting the reactor INSIDE of your space craft makes remediation any less dangerous? Lmao.
If something goes wrong with the reactor you don't EVA to fix it. You jettison it. Your idea reminds me of this little Soviet incident:
>The second accident was a cooling system leak which occurred in 1967, shortly after refueling. Finding the leak required breaking through the concrete and metal biological shield with sledgehammers. Once the leak was found, it became apparent that the sledgehammer damage could not be repaired; subsequently, all three reactors were removed by blowing them off the ship with shaped charges above a burial site off Novaya Zemlya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:48:19 UTC No. 16458842
>>16458839
He needs to be made to pay for those two months.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:55:03 UTC No. 16458846
>>16458842
ESG Hound, you mean Eric Roesch? Eric Roesch of 475 Hartford Rd, New Britain, CT 06053? Who can be reached at 860-348-9100? That Eric Roesch?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:56:08 UTC No. 16458848
>>16458847
we need to send more probes to the ice giants
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:57:02 UTC No. 16458850
>>16458846
>Connecticut
Why is this consistently the state with the most insufferable cunts?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:58:45 UTC No. 16458853
>>16458848
We need a Triton lander. WTF is NASA doing. Nearly 40 years since the last Uranus and Neptune visits.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:59:39 UTC No. 16458856
wooooww janny doesn't want me posting an eco terrorist's name and address
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:00:56 UTC No. 16458859
>janny tries to put tooth paste back into the tube
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:01:10 UTC No. 16458860
>>16458841
>putting the reactor INSIDE of your space craft makes remediation any less dangerous
yes
because it doesn't involve transporting components in a very lengthy EVA and allows you to respond faster
>If something goes wrong with the reactor you don't EVA to fix it. You jettison it.
but then you're kind of fucked aren't you
like, that power supply is very important for reasons
>breaking through the concrete and metal biological shield with sledgehammers. Once the leak was found, it became apparent that the sledgehammer damage could not be repaired
can't we think of a better solution though
this is not my area of expertise
I think it would be better to have cooling systems built into the main frame of the ship rather than be separated from everything by a fuckhuge boom, but maybe you have a point about that being safer.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:02:03 UTC No. 16458861
>>16458723
>>16458726
>building a shitty tent directly on top of the already completed deep foundations for the first Florida mega bay
This is the worst sign Ive seen so far, why are people cheering for this? They have other land, to cannibalize your own very expensive and long lead time mega bay foundation, which as already permitted, means the project is fucking delayed for the next several years
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:04:53 UTC No. 16458864
>saw a few astronaut costumes last night
space is back
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:17:26 UTC No. 16458868
>>16458860
>but then you're kind of fucked aren't you
You're already fucked because there's no way you're fixing your reactor in space. You jettison it and use solar power or batteries to keep life support online for the duration of your abort mode, whatever that might be.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:23:50 UTC No. 16458871
>>16458868
>there's no way you're fixing your reactor in space
it might not be impossible if it's just related to the cooling system
but depending on the problem it would be
it is easier to jettison if it isn't built into the frame, but the boom also introduces complications
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:28:31 UTC No. 16458875
>>16458861
It's not great is it.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:30:18 UTC No. 16458876
>>16458871
>>16458860
What you want is a TRIGA reactor, not only because its extremely safe and reliable, but you can actually cheat on the rocket equation with it by heating hydrogen propellant far beyond the reactor temperature by pulsing reactor output.
Neutrons transfer the heat so no convention or similar is involved.
It can also operate as a regular Nuclear Thermal rocket engine if you need high thrust.
And yes, TRIGA reactors are impossible to break. They are installed in various schools around the world and have zero dangerous incidents.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:33:26 UTC No. 16458879
>>16458876
>And yes, TRIGA reactors are impossible to break.
They haven't let me play with one yet!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:34:15 UTC No. 16458882
>Launch Forecast from Bryce
>Commercial heavy-lift growth will be driven by megaconstellations, notably Starlink.
>Small launch vehicles will not grow from their 6% market share.
>Dramatic uptick in missions to the moon.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:36:34 UTC No. 16458886
>>16458876
sounds legit
personally, I like the idea of LENR for reasons that do not involve NTP
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:48:45 UTC No. 16458901
>>16458882
>Small launch vehicles will not grow from their 6% market share.
probably why no ones building a new one (except the retards at astra lol). people seem to cottoned on to the idea that the small end of medium lift is infinitely more valuable.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:50:44 UTC No. 16458903
>>16458853
>WTF is NASA doing
writing gay race communist treatises
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:52:02 UTC No. 16458905
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:52:08 UTC No. 16458906
when spacex gonna have moon orbiting sats?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:55:31 UTC No. 16458909
>>16458264
Just did. Walked 3 miles to drop it off. I did it for you Elon. Wore my SpaceX cap. Yes, I'm a 1. To Mars.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:56:21 UTC No. 16458912
>>16458853
>WTF is NASA doing
Designing missions that don't need a 12+ km/s delta-v budget and over a decade of travel time to get to their destination
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:59:17 UTC No. 16458916
>>16458901
Astra's only slightly retarded. The Defense Department is willing to pay a lot for things that aren't really economical, and Astra's found something they think they can chase
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:00:56 UTC No. 16458922
>>16458912
>spend an additional several decades designing a probe to lower the travel time by a few years
sasuga nasa-sama
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:03:03 UTC No. 16458926
>>16457992
That actually makes sense as to why they wanted all that crazy shit. It wasn't for offensive spying, like stealing enemy satellites. It was leftover wish-list items from before the digital camera revolution that happened only a few years earlier.
They also had wanted the MOL, which was going to be a manned spy platform masquerading as a science space station, but that idea died even faster.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:05:03 UTC No. 16458929
>>16458088
>newfags can't sันpost
the proper term is "Shittle"
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:08:30 UTC No. 16458933
>>16458785
figures like these actually make me optimistic. even in the anaemic state of goverment spaceflight today, space agencies already do missions whitch are 20+ years long with ludicrous rube goldberg gravity assists. its easy to imagine a 50 year mission being carried out when people at jpl already spend that kind of time tinkering with mission plans to nowhere
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:09:58 UTC No. 16458934
>>16458912
is we getting aero-gravity assist?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:11:28 UTC No. 16458937
What is the point of JUICE?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:13:23 UTC No. 16458939
>>16458708
>plushie tiles
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:15:02 UTC No. 16458940
>>16458939
>nigger cirno will go to the moon
what a timeline
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:28:05 UTC No. 16458951
>>16458903
kids these days think saying mentioning capitalism makes them smart
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:32:22 UTC No. 16458956
>>16458876
>other anons have also had the idea of abusing the elastic scattering cross-section of hydrogen vs the fuel/clad to power a rocket
Nice. The problem is that you have to match the rate of neutron production to the mass flow rate of the hydrogen, while also designing a core that has an insane neutron flux, but is still controllable.
The whole thing would be balanced on such a knife edge that it would never be adopted.
Also TRIGA probably won't work because you would have to wait for the heat buildup in the fuel to dissipate enough for reactivity to swing back, which is centuries compared to the mass flow rate in a rocket.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:34:15 UTC No. 16458958
>>16458951
you have to dispense with tenure and purge higher education or nothing will change
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:35:29 UTC No. 16458960
>>16458934
How predictable are aerogravity assists?
I imagine even small variations in the atmosphere could throw you off quite a bit over the distance of a few AU.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:39:11 UTC No. 16458965
>>16458946
axiom is on the verge of bankruptcy. this shit is unlikely to ever launch.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:46:07 UTC No. 16458972
>>16458779
yeah lets get some wood veneer in our space ships
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:49:42 UTC No. 16458975
>>16458972
Anon you don't understand.
I NEED wood paneling and shag carpeting in my space ship or else I will go space-crazy!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:49:42 UTC No. 16458976
>>16458965
Can't Elon just buy them?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:51:06 UTC No. 16458978
>>16458946
not a great size, but at least it's not gateway
>>16458965
nasa may keep them alive just to see this through. plus the artemis suits
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:53:03 UTC No. 16458980
>>16458976
for what purpose?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:53:33 UTC No. 16458981
>>16458980
to waste money
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:54:15 UTC No. 16458983
>>16458981
He has the trump campaign for that.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:54:47 UTC No. 16458985
>>16458965
Can't Bezos just buy them?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:06:43 UTC No. 16458990
>>16458388
>european
>space
kek, keep the esa around so I can keep laughing at them
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:08:33 UTC No. 16458992
>>16458577
It's not good enough. We need to make the landers bigger and the European houses smaller.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:10:09 UTC No. 16458996
>>16458991
spacex does Starship
meanwhile the government and boing goof around doing x-37 for 30 years with absolutely nothing to show for it because Earth to LEO is literally 99% of the difficulty
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:11:10 UTC No. 16458997
>>16458995
just don't screw up next time lol and u won't lose money
Don't make fixed price bids on stuff you aren't sure of lol
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:12:07 UTC No. 16458998
>>16458963
>what you you mean we can't roam around in the radio quiet zone with our starlink antennas?
It's a technological miracle they even have service to begin with
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:13:55 UTC No. 16459000
>>16458667
they will if there's no fucking floor!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:14:01 UTC No. 16459001
>>16458993
so is the life support outside the airlock?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:15:34 UTC No. 16459002
On September 23, 2024, Blue Origin performed a static fire of the second stage of the New Glenn launch system at SLC-36. Based on media releases from Blue Origin, this static fire utilized the deluge system. While Blue Origin applied for a permit for the LC-36 deluge system on May 31, 2024, no permit has been issued to date and the system may not be placed into service. This static fire appears to constitute an intentional unauthorized discharge of untreated industrial wastewater to the environment.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:16:49 UTC No. 16459003
>>16459002
I don't give a shit about wastewater discharges.
blue can run it 24/7 with no permits for all I care.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:16:58 UTC No. 16459004
>>16458963
>people using satellite service in a way that previously was possible but illegal are now blocked as they should be under law
oh nooo, that sucks
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:19:30 UTC No. 16459007
>>16458995
elon is wrong. starliner would start with iss then transition to the small space stations. we cant let spacex be the sole spaceflight option.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:20:08 UTC No. 16459008
>>16459007
which small stations
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:22:01 UTC No. 16459010
>>16458731
I hope one day the world can see past our various differences and get rid of all nuclear weapons by firing them at California
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:22:29 UTC No. 16459011
>>16459007
Boeing is canning Starliner first chance they get
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:23:16 UTC No. 16459012
>>16459008
axiom, i think its down to two modules now. vast is aiming for dragon to support their larger station too.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:24:37 UTC No. 16459014
>>16458839
s/isolated/gas/
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:30:39 UTC No. 16459018
>>16459012
axiom is just a website and space travel agency
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:31:08 UTC No. 16459019
>>16458741
>Something in space tech is better and a hundred times cheaper
>Space fans are sad because it's not like the good ol' days where you could spend 15 thousand dollars on a single bolt
Nostalgia And Spending Administration
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:34:37 UTC No. 16459021
>>16459007
Shartliner will not transition to other space stations, the only booster it is certified for (Atlas) is end-of-life and it will never be certified to fly on Vulcan because Boeing is tired of wasting their money.
> we cant let spacex be the sole spaceflight option.
They aren't. NASA flies their astronauts on Soyuz too.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:36:33 UTC No. 16459022
>>16459021
no company is going to fly soyuz to their commercial space stations any time soon
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:38:33 UTC No. 16459024
>>16458963
>Felon Muskrat only delivered 99.5% of what was previously 100% an impossibility
Look! Another failure! I'm surprised it didn't explode!
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:39:42 UTC No. 16459027
>>16459022
they'll ride on gaganyaan then
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:41:23 UTC No. 16459028
>>16459027
the coders who fucked up starliner were from india. gangangayaan is a homeless man's starliner.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:43:01 UTC No. 16459031
>>16458995
does elrond not know how many space stations are being made atm to fly before/after ISS? hes such a spaceboomer sometimes.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:45:22 UTC No. 16459034
>>16459021
>NASA flies their astronauts on Soyuz
Foreign countries don't count
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:45:23 UTC No. 16459035
>>16459022
Commercial space stations don't exist. NASA uses both Soyuz and Dragon to get to the ISS. SpaceX is FACTUALLY not the sole spaceflight option.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:46:27 UTC No. 16459036
>>16459026
imagine the smell.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:47:26 UTC No. 16459039
>>16459031
how many of them have contracts with spacex to launch their stations? oh right, none
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:47:47 UTC No. 16459040
>>16459035
>Commercial space stations don't exist
uhh, what do you think genesis I and II were?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:49:23 UTC No. 16459041
>>16459002
>This static fire appears to constitute an intentional unauthorized discharge of untreated industrial wastewater to the environment.
It was treated with rocket engines before release
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:50:08 UTC No. 16459042
>>16459040
Satellites. Nobody ever flew to them, so they certainly weren't space stations in any meaningful respect.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:50:36 UTC No. 16459043
cost plusis obviously open to predatory business, but whats the alternative?
if spacex didnt exist costplus would be essential.
what is the government supposed to do if shartliner runs out of money after 15 years and with 90% of development done? paying them more is the only solution
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:52:47 UTC No. 16459045
>>16459007
>>16459031
elon just let slip the existence of starship science vessels that no commercial space station can compete against
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:52:55 UTC No. 16459046
>>16459043
Costplus was never essential. The alternative is the government stops being corrupt and tells companies to be profitable on fixed price contracts or fuck off and die.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:53:39 UTC No. 16459048
>>16459002
>>16459041
Seriously, this shit needs to end immediately, I wont defend Blue Origin willingly but this is absolutely clown world for the sake of clowning around. Its a fucking rocket launch facility for God's sake, what did they expect? Donald Trump is the only chance we have.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:54:35 UTC No. 16459049
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:54:45 UTC No. 16459050
>>16459045
There's no money in orbital science labs. There's no commercial value in sprouting beans and slurping floating balls of tang in orbit.
Communication and earth observation satellites are how you make money in space.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:55:55 UTC No. 16459051
>>16459046
ok, so in a world without spacex:
>boeing abandons shartliner
>the US has no manned orbital capability apart from orion
where do you proceed from here?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:56:20 UTC No. 16459053
>>16459050
There absolutely is money in science, you just have to undercut wasteful government contracts.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:56:28 UTC No. 16459054
>>16458993
I can't understand any of this without an mspaint drawing
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:57:26 UTC No. 16459055
>>16459051
in a world without spacex we have Ares :^)
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:57:59 UTC No. 16459056
>>16459051
Space before SpaceX was a giant waste of money makework project
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:58:39 UTC No. 16459057
>>16459055
do you like your payloads shaken?
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:58:56 UTC No. 16459058
>>16459056
>Space outside of SpaceX still is a giant waste of money makework project
fixed that for you
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:01:44 UTC No. 16459060
>>16459058
even with spacex you have retarded wastes of money like the whole dragon capsule thing
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:02:19 UTC No. 16459062
>>16459056
i agree it was a circus, especially the pointlessly manned shuttle missions. do you think obama was right to command nasa to end manned flight and focus on earth sciences?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:02:32 UTC No. 16459063
>>16459053
Decades of science experiments in space and so far the only useful result is
>look kids, the floating tang forms into a ball! look at these floating M&Ms! you should become astronauts so you can eat floating snacks like me
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:03:54 UTC No. 16459064
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:04:50 UTC No. 16459065
>>16458751
500 tonnes, but that'll be considered a small spacecraft in the era it's built.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:05:35 UTC No. 16459067
>>16459051
Give the contracts to another company. Terminate the contracts if/when they fail. Repeat until you either find companies who can do what they say, or until you realize that the whole thing is a waste of time anyway and get back to launching satellites.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:11:10 UTC No. 16459072
>printing human tissue
they need to be stopped
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:13:42 UTC No. 16459075
>>16459045
what where?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:14:46 UTC No. 16459076
>>16459072
>send small ship to habitable exoplanet
>prooont your colonists
what is wrong with this?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:16:20 UTC No. 16459078
>>16459067
there arent enough companies in the space industry due to how small and expensive it is, and the development times are upward of 1 and a half decades so you cant afford to have a capability gap that long. Even starship has been in development for a decade by now
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:17:25 UTC No. 16459079
>>16459076
can someone offer a good reason why we dont do this?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:17:41 UTC No. 16459080
>>16459078
What industry are you going to do in space that isn't more economical to do on earth?
No, don't say asteroid mining.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:19:41 UTC No. 16459081
>>16459080
retarded, esl, or just no reading comprehension?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:20:18 UTC No. 16459082
>>16459078
its expensive because t hey give out 100 million dollar contracts at a drop of a hat for doing basically nothing
meanwhile you could be hiring mexican welders to make some 3 stage orbital rocket
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:20:56 UTC No. 16459084
>>16459081
Assume that starship existed today, ready to fly as many commercial contracts as you want. What industry are you going to do in space that isn't more economical to do on earth?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:21:09 UTC No. 16459085
Breakthrough starshot gives me the shits. The idea is mostly sound but it needs tens of thousands of monster probes, not stupid little faggot chips. It's an idea for the mid term future when ISRU space manufacturing is deployed at scale. Their energy should be spent on designing practical laser sail solutions for use in the solar system. Expensive to build emitters at the destination since you have to get there with gay chemical shit but once up and running you can send stuff really fucking fast almost whenever you want to. No more waiting for transfer windows and taking months/years to arrive. Should be easy enough to scam a billy or two from some VC rubes and I bet that's enough to design and build a big earth-moon link capable of sending large vehicles which would be step one. The laser emitters you can get off the shelf now are pretty wild and not even that expensive. They would be very effective air defence systems right now on earth if it wasn't for this retarded atmosphere. I'm damn fucking sure a big array in space can punt a craft up to speeds plenty fast enough for swift interplanetary transport since we aren't talking about doing 20%c anymore.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:21:14 UTC No. 16459086
>>16459079
because SLS is still crap in any configuration
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:21:21 UTC No. 16459087
spacex is to blame for the astronaut health problems according to the tech blog gizmodo
>As the industry favorite, SpaceX faces significant pressure to keep up with the accelerating pace of commercial spaceflight, especially given founder and CEO Elon Muskโs sometimes overly ambitious goals and timelines. The company may need to slow down to assess recent malfunctions and prioritize safety moving forward.
https://gizmodo.com/nasa-tells-spac
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:23:09 UTC No. 16459089
>you could be hiring mexican welders to make some 3 stage orbital rocket
do it.
would be the funniest shit ever.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:23:30 UTC No. 16459090
>>16458909
>drop it off
If you aren't voting in person on election day you might as well just throw away your vote
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:23:32 UTC No. 16459091
>>16459084
"the space industry" was a reference to the aerospace industry. aka all the companies that already exist on earth making rockets, satellites, and other equipment for use in space and associated systems.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:27:28 UTC No. 16459092
>>16459091
Right, so the point remains that there isn't any money to be made in launching starships kitted out as laboratories, because nobody has any commercial or industrial use for such science in the first place.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:28:41 UTC No. 16459093
>>16459076
>>16459079
Can't proont the human spirit
The cololnists would be p-zombies
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:29:16 UTC No. 16459094
>>16459082
Stoke space is the prime example of what you are talking about, a few hundred million to develop two different engines from scratch, one ffsc, one hydrogen, as well as build multiple upper stages, integrated hot fires and first stage almost ready for testing. They have done it about as efficiently as you can, a few years from nothing to a fully reusable vehicle. I expect them to be launching next year. But it's not going to be a starship, only a few tonnes to LEO. They will eat up contracts that are withering waiting for a launch vehicle but it's a retard size jump from a vehicle like that to starship. You need billions, maybe 10+ for a big dick vehicle. Launch locations are going to be a problem going forward too. SpaceX has nabbed pretty much the only viable site stateside so everyone else is going to be cucked at the cape. Getting any kind of usable cadence from there for fuck off huge rockets is going to be a nightmare.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:29:38 UTC No. 16459095
>>16459092
this whole conversation was about nasa giving out contracts. who cares if there's money in space it doesn't factor into the discussion
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:31:40 UTC No. 16459096
>>16459092
There are plenty of research applications waiting for microgravity facilities. Biotech being the main one. They will pay for a 0g lab that is actually of a usable size and don't have to spend 9999999 dollars getting their shoebox sized power limited cuck shit to the ISS.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:31:45 UTC No. 16459097
>>16459087
Journalism as an industry should be illegal on mars.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:37:09 UTC No. 16459098
>>16458606
>me on the starship relaxation deck
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:38:17 UTC No. 16459099
>>16459076
you're putting real humans out of the breeding buisness, and it's not even sustainable
basically the most evil thing ever devised
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:39:24 UTC No. 16459100
when you 3D print someone, you own them legally
they are your personal property, and you can terminate them whenever you like
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:39:24 UTC No. 16459101
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:39:30 UTC No. 16459102
>>16459098
gross, fuck off. no posting webbed feet.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:40:31 UTC No. 16459103
>>16459101
its definitely not that big.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:41:21 UTC No. 16459104
>>16459101
>>16459103
it's 0.6 of a kubic cilometer, it's way bigger than that.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:44:11 UTC No. 16459107
>>16459103
looks pretty big to me from the render
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:44:16 UTC No. 16459108
>>16459101
starship is WAY too thin. its obvious they should have gone with a 20m design.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:44:46 UTC No. 16459109
>>16459070
so no significant scientific discoveries came out of the ISS. however the most important thing of all, helping to launch the newspace industry, got zero mention.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:45:16 UTC No. 16459110
>>16459099
>you're putting real humans out of the breeding buisness
have you checked the birth rates recently? real humans aren't forming baby's anymore
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:01:15 UTC No. 16459120
>>16459102
>focusing on the feet
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:02:01 UTC No. 16459122
when will spacex create a fully and rapidly reusable launch pad?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:02:18 UTC No. 16459123
>>16459097
What was the reason for the hospitalizations?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:04:35 UTC No. 16459125
>>16458997
What would have happened if SpaceX was the only bidder that actually remained. Can they force a second bidder back into the contract for the sake of redundancy?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:04:49 UTC No. 16459126
>>16459120
i know youre the footfag posting womens feet in these threads.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:06:13 UTC No. 16459127
>>16459092
if a starship launch can be within an order of magnitude of affordability as spacex claim, then well funded universities and colleges would be able to afford funding a 0g space lab, on the proviso that it is eventually returned to earth and refitted for the next customer
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:06:15 UTC No. 16459128
>>16459123
There was only one hospitalization. The woman.
The others were taken to the same hospital to obfuscate the identity of her.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:08:18 UTC No. 16459130
>>16459125
There's only like 5 years left for the ISS with not many crew runs. No one is going to bother bidding even if NASA opens up the contract with generous terms. Who would even bid? I have a hard time seeing anyone buying shartliner project either, you would have to be insane. It's ogre. SpaceX is the sole US human launch provider for the foreseeable future.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:21:49 UTC No. 16459134
>>16459090
Nah it was an official return site staffed by two police officers. Was /comfy/. Handed it to him, he checked the signature and date, and then placed it into the box, thanked me, and gave me le sticker. I'll track it just to be sure but this is how you early-vote in my state. That or "on-demand" where you apply for and fill out a mail-in/absentee all right there at the office and hand it in. Anyway, I feel better about it than the thought of using those gay machines. Yeah it's my first time voooting.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:23:33 UTC No. 16459136
>>16459130
I guess kinda meant in general. Like imagine if everyone pulled out except for SpaceX for HLS (a stretch, but as an example).
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:29:43 UTC No. 16459137
>>16459136
VGH... WHY DIDNT WE BUILD THAT
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:30:12 UTC No. 16459138
Crazy how the US has possibly the most dogshit and corrupt voting system in the world. African warlord tier. Got a bad feeling about this one and like Elon says, it's over after that. It's also over if trump gets in but doesn't do shit in regards to deportations or cracking down on voter ID and also doesn't let Elon go apeshit on the government.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:32:02 UTC No. 16459140
>>16459138
0% chanceDOGE does anything beyond complaining and getting Trump to fire some token low level public facing employees who get rehired by the next admin after services noticeabily deteriorate.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:32:11 UTC No. 16459141
>>16459130
NASA is still going to need crew transport services after the ISS takes its big swan dive. A new contract could cover late-life ISS services but would mostly be written with an eye towards taking people to the new commercial stations
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:34:57 UTC No. 16459146
>>16459140
Yeah I agree. So it's over then. Hate to see it.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:35:29 UTC No. 16459147
>>16459140
>there's no possible way for you to ever fire someone who works for the government the worst possible thing you could ever do is try to do that it just doesn't work that way the government will always be huge and you just can't ever try to do anything about it just accept it
I hate faggots like you more than you can possibly imagine
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:35:52 UTC No. 16459149
fuck you
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:39:20 UTC No. 16459151
rape cats
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:40:31 UTC No. 16459152
>>16459147
This isn't just firing someone who works for the government. To make any meaningful difference to the incoming debt collapse would necessitate axing like 50% of them, exposing big names who have grifted billions of dollars, cutting off the teat to almost all of America's biggest fuck off companies, etc...
You really see that?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:41:08 UTC No. 16459154
>>16459147
you can obviously fire people from the government. but how do you make the government fire themselves? it's set up in such a way that firing mid to high level government functionaries would require some seriously revolutionary power plays. Trump has no record of being a competent politician or businessman so he will forget about DOGE and just be a poor man's Regan.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:43:28 UTC No. 16459157
>>16459154
Midwits are so tedious.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:44:58 UTC No. 16459161
>>16459140
You vastly underestimate the enormity of bloat in politics.
You could fire 90% of the government blindly overnight and a month later you wouldn't even notice anything different.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:45:58 UTC No. 16459163
Please check my pinned post on the discord.
Its got tips and tricks on how to vote multiple times.
Do your part.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:46:00 UTC No. 16459164
>>16459157
let's check in 2 years from now when Trump has sidelined Musk and no major government restructuring has happened.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:58:03 UTC No. 16459170
>>16459161
if you fired at random you would be cutting equally from productive sectors and unproductive sectors, so productivity would go down 90%. Government workers have very low productivity per employee and this isnt something which is easily changed. Elon did it with X, but it was a small company with less than 10k staff, and he had dictatorial control over everything in the business. With DOGE he is dealing with a corporation 300x the scale with orders of magnitude more beuracracy, all while having extremely hampered access to internal workings of the agencies due to the inevitably hostile attitude of department managers, and the fact he doesn't own them. All while having literally zero executive power.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:00:16 UTC No. 16459172
>https://arstechnica.com/space/2024
there's almost nothing in the article about spaceflight. ars has turned to clickbait.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:03:37 UTC No. 16459176
>>16459170
>if you fired at random you would be cutting equally from productive sectors and unproductive sectors
LOL implying the government has a 50/50 ratio of employees who are productive. My fucking SIDES.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:14:10 UTC No. 16459183
>>16459176
can't tell if you are baiting or a mega retard.
if 90% of government employees are unproductive and 10% of government employees are productive, then if you fire 90% of all government employees at random you will be firing 90% of the 90%, but also 90% of the 10%, so there will be 90% less productive employees.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:17:27 UTC No. 16459184
>>16459079
>>16459076
humans already print themselves
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:17:59 UTC No. 16459186
>>16459172
Ars has always been clickbate. Berger's articles are the only regular exception they've had for years
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:18:28 UTC No. 16459187
>>16459084
smash asteroids into earth
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:19:34 UTC No. 16459188
>>16459183
I don't give a fuck about your pilpul, make them draw numbers from a jar and whoever draws the number "1" from a random selection of 1-10 gets to keep their jobs. If they can't be productive in their job going forward then they get fired and replaced with someone competent.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:19:47 UTC No. 16459189
>>16459087
there's no law in space
which means it's legal to kill journalists and politicians in space
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:23:23 UTC No. 16459193
>>16459183
0% of government employees are productive
the us federal government doesn't produce ANYTHING of value
if they made anything worth buying they wouldn't need to take money from people under the threat of imprisonment
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:25:00 UTC No. 16459195
IFT-2 anniversary coming up on the 18th. Hopefully we are back to normal by then?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:26:06 UTC No. 16459196
>>16459170
>federal government employees
>productive
What, specifically, do they produce?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:26:20 UTC No. 16459198
>>16459193
you know there are valid jobs outside of producing finished products?
thousands of employees at spacex don't actually produce stuff.
Elon Musk doesn't actually produce stuff. He's a genius at business management.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:27:29 UTC No. 16459199
>>16459161
>>16459170
>so productivity would go down 90%.
Not that anon but 10% vs 100% of "very low productivity" might actually be hard to notice. Also real productivity is in the private sector and you keep all of it, and they can keep more of their money. They should obviously try to keep the parts and people of government that do something but taking a hatchet to it is vastly preferable to doing nothing while the debt gets higher and higher.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:29:50 UTC No. 16459200
>>16459101
kind of mcmansiony
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:29:53 UTC No. 16459201
>>16459196
they maintain public infrastructure and provide military force to strengthen the dollar through bringing the globe to heel. they also do massive wealth redistribution from upper working class to lower working class to prevent the deaths of millions of people as the natural result of capital distribution.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:30:57 UTC No. 16459202
>>16459075
think about it, there are more space stations coming, his statement would only make sense if they would also be obsolete
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:33:01 UTC No. 16459203
>>16459183
If 90% of government employees are productive and you fire 90% of workers at random, then you end up reducing effectivity by 90%.
Correct.
You'd also reduce wage spend by 90%. And you still wouldn't notice anything different.
The remaining staff would. Their workload would increase. But you? No, your life is run by private companies.
Companies are still driven by outcomes and profits. They don't stop working when you fire someone in the government, it's the opposite. The companies pressure the government until they yield.
Nothing would change.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:33:51 UTC No. 16459204
>>16459201
>maintain public infrastructure
I've been to third world countries with better infrastructure than the US. The majority of the infrastructure here was built in the 60s-80s and is being held together with billion dollar grift duct tape. Also, they don't produce this, they are just bean counters who poorly distribute stolen money to "preferred contractors"
>provide military force to strengthen the dollar
Alexa, can we please see the purchasing power chart of the US dollar from the 1960s to now? Lol lmao even
>some commie gibberish
OK go away and kill yourself
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:34:37 UTC No. 16459205
>>16459050
You don't actually know this
Because the science was so expensive, the fruits of the experiment had to justify the price tag. If it was inexpensive industry could search for 0g processes.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:35:16 UTC No. 16459206
>>16459201
>public infrastructure
They don't do anything here other than rubber stamp.
>They shoot brown people
Yes, I guess this is important.
>Trickle down economics
lmao
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:37:53 UTC No. 16459208
>>16459204
>Alexa, can we please see the purchasing power chart of the US dollar from the 1960s to now? Lol lmao even
Now measure the Dollar against ANY other currency over that time period retard.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:40:44 UTC No. 16459210
>>16458027
yes apparently according to space xwitter he's a bigot since he doesn't like pronouns and he even defended slavery
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:42:23 UTC No. 16459212
>>16459208
Looks great, thanks for your inquiry.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:47:38 UTC No. 16459219
>>16459212
>compares it to a precious metal
thank you for conceding.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:48:32 UTC No. 16459221
>>16459219
You're right, I compared money to a currency. Sorry. Lmao.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:52:10 UTC No. 16459225
kek, gold isn't a currency any more than a share in the S&P500 is retard. Its a precious metal. You have never in your life paid for something with a chunk of gold. Gold is a commodity and stopped being a currency when the gold standard was abandoned worldwide.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:52:43 UTC No. 16459227
>>16459225
fuck off to >>>/bant/pmg
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:54:49 UTC No. 16459230
>triggered a glowbot on the fucking spaceflight thread
Wow, crazy. Gonna buy some more.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:56:31 UTC No. 16459231
>>16459230
no youre just being an annoying faggot. consider buying some trump yes then as well moron
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:01:59 UTC No. 16459236
>>16459234
>space station
not spaceflight related, fuck off
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:06:25 UTC No. 16459239
fuck you
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:21:38 UTC No. 16459249
>>16459207
I want to like the idea of a spaceplane for reusable first stage, but the concept has been thoroughly BTFO by vertical landing boosters.
Small crew transport vehicles are the last hope of the spaceplane.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:26:07 UTC No. 16459254
>>16459236
huh?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:33:40 UTC No. 16459261
I'm thinking the big unpressurised cargo space has been written off to make space for the hot gas thrusters, that or the mock-up is nowhere near final and is just a a box ticking exercise for when the NASA people rock up.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:48:04 UTC No. 16459272
>>16459261
didn't they shrink the cargo and increase tank volume on the starship V2 design?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:02:16 UTC No. 16459278
>>16459261
>>16459272
HLS mockup isn't anywhere close to being the right hardware.
It's the nosecone from ship 22 which was originally an extremely early prototype of a starship with a payload door.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:07:48 UTC No. 16459282
Its a blowout for Harris on Tuesday. Plan your careers at SpaceX accordingly. Blue likely to become much more competitive if Harris admin selects them for contracts over SpaceX, even if just more often and not more than SpaceX overall. Not much else will really change than what is currently happening, maybe Elon gets his security clearance revoked but he just doesnt do nearly as much at SpaceX as you would think.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:08:05 UTC No. 16459283
>>16459279
Never considering a TNO mission isn't even in the cards right now
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:15:25 UTC No. 16459287
>>16459283
Well that's disappointing
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:15:48 UTC No. 16459288
>>16459282
If the US chose blue as their launch provider, it would cut out.. uh.. about 10% of their launches.
It would also completely cripple the US' space presence, as Blue Origin won't have the capability to provide that many launches for half a decade, even if everything goes perfectly.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:19:26 UTC No. 16459289
>>16459287
Starship can get 45 tonnes there in 3 years in one launch if it flies expendable.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:23:24 UTC No. 16459290
>>16459289
we dont need 45 tonnes, New Horizons was only about 450kg so thats like 100x more than needed. Maybe get there faster?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:27:56 UTC No. 16459291
>>16459289
Whoops my mistake, that's Jupiter.
Neptune is about 7 times farther, so still shitty timeframe.
That's without gravity assist, though.
Re-fuelling starship in orbit would be the one to get out there in a reasonable time then. Have a third stage deployed when starship is depleted, yeet a 1 tonne probe or something.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:54:17 UTC No. 16459303
>>16459291
Would it make a big difference to fully refuel a stripped-down expendable specialized Starship (i.e. big fairings, no heat shield, no SL engines, gigantic kickstage) in a highly-elliptic Earth orbit instead of doing it in LEO? Or would this be highly inconvenient, say for the number of tankers and time required, and only done for very specific missions? I'm very excited about this hypothetical capability of Starship. Imagine sending a multi-ton orbiter+lander+rover to a Kuiper Belt object in a reasonable amount of time at just a fraction of the cost of New Horizons.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 05:09:49 UTC No. 16459309
>>16459282
humanity really needs to stop being so reliant on spacex and america in general for spaceflight. by now we should have half a dozen or more significant space powers. spaceflight has been a thing for almost 70 years now.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 05:16:12 UTC No. 16459313
>>16459303
Of course. It'd make a huge difference.
I'm excited about the solar system capabilities of the platform too, but everyone's stuck on the capabilities of over-engineered test vehicles.
The real silly thing is a brand new first flight starship is still miles cheaper than any other disposable launch vehicle and more capable. Retards think Starship will only ever fly 100% re-usable, even when SpaceX has always offered fully expended missions in the past.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 05:21:13 UTC No. 16459315
>>16457441
got shot down earlier, he was legal the whole time.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:20:53 UTC No. 16459332
What telescope does everyone own? Skywatcher 130p here. I want a new one.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:20:54 UTC No. 16459333
I remember when you niggers were in here defending the Twitter buyout and his grouping with Trump. Hows that going huh? All that money shouldve gone to SpaceX like I said and he shouldve kept his head down. Holy fuck, you morons I argued with then must feel really fucking stupid now with OH at just +3 huh? Thanks a million Elon you fucking idiot. Go ahead and screencap this too if you want, I will GLADLY admit I was wrong if Trump wins on Tuesday but thats not happening at all.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:22:33 UTC No. 16459335
>>16459332
I got one for viewing eclipses and thats it. I would get into it if I didnt live in a big city with fuck tons of light pollution
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:25:33 UTC No. 16459338
>>16459332
acog
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:26:10 UTC No. 16459339
>>16459338
What gripes do you have with the stars that you would aim your gun at them?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:28:52 UTC No. 16459343
>>16459339
>>16459338
The moon, shoot the moon please with the highest calibre possible. Cunt gets in the way constantly, absolutely sick of the rocky dust nonce.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:29:27 UTC No. 16459344
>>16459309
Astrabros...it's time...
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:30:31 UTC No. 16459345
>>16459332
GSO 8", baader eyepieces
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:34:07 UTC No. 16459352
>>16459332
I just use digital zoom on my phone
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:37:44 UTC No. 16459355
>>16459332
I don't have a telescope, I use my own eyes.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:37:45 UTC No. 16459356
>>16459352
Is your phone the hubble telescope?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:38:09 UTC No. 16459357
>>16459332
reminder that Tycho built a madlad observatory (Uraniborg) without telescopes and still did fucking insane amounts of precise celestial measurements
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:40:17 UTC No. 16459358
>>16459333
I'm worried about spacex when Elon has his eventual meltdown with trump losing.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:41:36 UTC No. 16459359
>>16459358
same...
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:41:42 UTC No. 16459360
>>16459345
nice
>>16459335
I have decent enough skies, on a really good night I see a feint milky way overhead. I sometimes night drive into the countryside but in england everywhere is polluted really. If you drive it's worth it. A few times a month. Catching a glimpse at everything on your list you make prior to leaving is a nice feeling. 2hr just cozy and quiet watching the sky.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:42:37 UTC No. 16459361
$500 budget, what telescope to get?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:45:03 UTC No. 16459363
>>16459361
used 8-10" dob, spend the rest on a good 12-15mm eyepiece and a 2x barlow. Or a 25-30mm wide FOV eyepiece if you want to look for deep sky objects
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:45:04 UTC No. 16459364
>>16459360
I want to drive out to stargaze, but I'm too scared that I'll get murdered on the side of the road or something lol
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:46:07 UTC No. 16459366
>>16459363
where do I find used dobs
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:48:20 UTC No. 16459367
>>16459364
It is nervous to start with but it's fine, I'm sure you'll be fine unless you live in a 3rd world part of your country.
Prop up somewhere dead off any major roads. All lights off, use a red torch to set up. Maybe bring a nice warm drink. Last time I heard a bunch of sheep, one was sick and scared me a little. I'm england so no wild animal can kill me, we only have foxes and eagles. But I guess in america it's a little different. Star gazing with a shotgun for protection, wow.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:53:06 UTC No. 16459372
>>16458963
The headline angle is so disingenuous. But with communism, you have to lie about every single thing.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:54:35 UTC No. 16459373
>>16459012
There's dragon and there's Starship. Now they have 2 access to manned space flight.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:55:38 UTC No. 16459374
>>16459186
Berger recently wrote a hitpiece against Musk about some nonsense.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:57:09 UTC No. 16459375
>>16459366
facebook marketplace is a good start. tons of people bought a telescope during covid and then stopped using it
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:58:06 UTC No. 16459376
>>16459374
>hitpiece
It wasnt a hitpiece, it was genuine concern for Tuesdays results you fucking numbskull. And it looks like his predictions of a Harris presidency are going to be right god I literally just posted about this earlier. What fucking ever. Ill see you on Tuesday when Im proven right that he shouldve kept his head down, you niggers egged him on into the political scene, you reap what you sow. Fucking hell.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:02:14 UTC No. 16459378
>>16459376
musk mindbroked himself via Vivian, Grimes dating the trans dude, being booed at the Chappele show, and a couple other things. He then concocted a thesis in his head that Rs = less regulations (which is complete bullshit) and down the rabbit hole he went.
Concerning!
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:06:24 UTC No. 16459381
>>16459376
>its not a hitpiece
>publishes the standard hit piece about Musk being a Russian agent with 51 intelligence officers writing letters
>cites fake concerned trolls as as legitimate reaso
Blah blah blah. This is 2020 all over with the Trump russia hoax that the Biden admin crafted.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:15:31 UTC No. 16459382
My favorite thing about Niel Degrasse Tyson is when he has petty twitter feuds with people over words or some other form of semantics.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:17:09 UTC No. 16459383
>>16459382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYQ
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:22:19 UTC No. 16459390
>>16459383
He is profound
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:27:18 UTC No. 16459395
>>16459364
Yeah, the guys I find stargazing are worried about that too.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:29:56 UTC No. 16459397
>>16459376
>4chan convinces the world's most important man to kill himself via political suicide.
God damn it.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:31:40 UTC No. 16459398
>>16459382
He's just trying to mask his political views by using words that he thinks are vague enough to not implicate him, but everyone else knows he's full of shit
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:33:31 UTC No. 16459400
>>16459398
>"nooo you can't le heckin' use god speed reeeee!"
He totally BTFO'd that keyboard warrior on twitter, investing his time into petty online arguments is in fact based and does not imply he's a petty social brained mong.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:57:50 UTC No. 16459418
Fuck you
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:00:11 UTC No. 16459421
>>16459418
He doesnt capitalize the f you messed it up anon
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:06:06 UTC No. 16459426
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/quwt
Actually really insightful
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:06:13 UTC No. 16459427
>>16459421
the bot/schizo is evolving
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:09:34 UTC No. 16459430
>>16458776
She fukken died
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:20:46 UTC No. 16459435
>people actually think there is going to be a regular election
Lmao. Trump's plan is to have states fail to certify their votes. If that happens, there won't be electorates who vote for the state. If the EC can't convene, it goes to the House to decide who the president is by vote. This is literally how the provisions are written out in the Constitution. Who controls the House right now by a clear majority?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:32:25 UTC No. 16459439
>>16459435
not spaceflight, go back
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:45:00 UTC No. 16459441
man i can't wait for the election to be over and for all of you retards to turn back to fucking normal.
election time /sfg/ has been the most awful fucking state this general's ever been in. it's like kamala and trump came in and manually sucked 50 IQ points out of your brains.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:53:52 UTC No. 16459448
>>16459374
I missed the berger article does anyone have it
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:59:24 UTC No. 16459454
>>16459441
The problem isn't election. The problem is politics of the incumbent hellbent on destroying Musk and all his business
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:59:34 UTC No. 16459456
>>16459441
If Trump wins then we go to mars by 2035. If Trump loses Elon will be executed. Biggest happening literally ever and it directly relates to space flight.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:00:53 UTC No. 16459458
>>16459454
this general isnt /elon/ either
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:01:14 UTC No. 16459459
>>16459376
it was a hitpiece
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:01:53 UTC No. 16459460
>>16459458
Sure it is. Its SpaceX Flight General. You came in as a tourist from reddit. You got lost. Its time to hobble back
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:02:15 UTC No. 16459461
>>16459458
the only reason this general exists is starship and the only reason starship exists is elon
so you are in fact wrong
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:04:05 UTC No. 16459462
>>16459461
Then go ahead and rename it on the next one.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:05:31 UTC No. 16459464
>>16459462
No need for it. SpaceX is the spaceflight industry itself. You came to the wrong niegborhood.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:25:38 UTC No. 16459477
>>16459279
1000m telescope (enabled by Starship) will allow us to have a good look at it
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:26:44 UTC No. 16459478
>>16459278
>extremely early prototype of a starship with a payload door.
Yeah this is totally deprecated. The current Starship paradigm is you go up, peer out the window, and come back down. You don't need a door for that.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:40:36 UTC No. 16459487
>>16459254
Staying in one place in space is NOT space flight.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:41:15 UTC No. 16459488
how bad are the riots going to be?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:42:08 UTC No. 16459489
>>16459488
spaceflight?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:44:29 UTC No. 16459490
>>16459489
space riot
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:45:33 UTC No. 16459491
>>16459488
Starship will land on FAA building
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:48:24 UTC No. 16459495
>>16459488
MAGATs will sperg out even more and will have to be put down, hard. Musk will be arrested.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:51:37 UTC No. 16459497
Trump won't win, Elon will continue with starship as per usual, Trump will retire and golf, the FAA will become more lenient until starship is launching dozens of time per day, the USA will land on the moon in 2027, 3 years before China, musk will land people on Mars in the 2030s, but a colony won't be built for another 100 years, alar osts will be wrong as usual, the liberal Democratic establishment will keep existing as normal
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 09:57:30 UTC No. 16459499
Are you going to get McDonalds on Wednesday?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:18:52 UTC No. 16459504
>>16459497
IF Trump loses, that's a big IF, then Elon runs for president or someone he backs very closely and wins in '28. Then the USA becomes an enormous space industrial complex which totally transforms the political landscape of the planet, meaning humans settle on Mars by 2040. Where of course, Elon is the grand tsar.
So really, it's a win win in my books.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:23:21 UTC No. 16459506
>>16459504
Elon couldn't run for president
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:24:44 UTC No. 16459508
>>16459504
Elon is African. He can't be prez.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:25:27 UTC No. 16459509
>>16459506
>>16459508
didn't stop obongo
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:37:57 UTC No. 16459517
>>16459509
Well, for Elon to do that he has to get a health director to verify his birth certificate naturalizing him, and then kill them in a plane crash on an airliner he owns a year later.
I don't think Elon could get away with something like that.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:49:15 UTC No. 16459524
>>16458055
Anon, he would set the new mean. That's how evolution works. If regression to the mean just meant always returning to one preset point like you believe then there would be no evolution.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 10:49:20 UTC No. 16459525
>>16459488
>digits
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:14:05 UTC No. 16459539
fucking sake ran out of delta v at duna, got to send a massive rescue now.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:22:25 UTC No. 16459541
>>16459278
They took the door part too literally kek
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:26:49 UTC No. 16459545
>>16459524
>then there would be no evolution
Yeah, it's not real. Evolution has been disproven over and over and yet soienticists still cling to it.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:27:42 UTC No. 16459546
>>16459290
you could bring enough propellant to enter a close orbit or even land
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:37:53 UTC No. 16459552
>>16459509
Elon is way too famous and well known to get away with doctoring a birth certificate
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:51:42 UTC No. 16459557
>>16458993
Why are there heat tiles on it?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 11:57:03 UTC No. 16459559
>>16459557
The Mexicans can use the practice.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:11:18 UTC No. 16459564
https://x.com/damienslash/status/18
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:14:17 UTC No. 16459566
>>16459564
>Comedian/Level 9000 troll
I guess it was a bit, I was keking. That was fucking hilarious.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:15:03 UTC No. 16459567
>>16459566
no he is serious this time
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:15:44 UTC No. 16459569
>>16459564
Post this on reddit and see how many upboats you can get from people thinking he's genuine
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:21:08 UTC No. 16459572
>>16459504
Musk isnt as sharp as he was 20 years ago. He would just structure the country around whatever technological fad took his fancy in the moment. Maybe he would let millions of people die in blackouts by restructring the energy grid to feed massive supercomputers for gAyI
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:35:55 UTC No. 16459578
>>16457367
are you stupid? that's a CO2 to Methane machine, that also produces oxygen as a byproduct of electrolyzing the hydrogen for the conversion
it's cheaper to just freeze the oxygen out of the air
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:23:58 UTC No. 16459609
>>16459572
I'll be honest the fake stock market tech investment money buying up real electricity and driving up prices for the real economy has me very concerned.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:37:22 UTC No. 16459613
>>16459441
I dunno If we're even gonna get rid of the /pol/tards. If haris gets in all the chuds are just gonna keep complaining and if trump gets in he'll just fall out with musk again like he did last time. Elon Musk being so publicly political has killed this general.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:42:33 UTC No. 16459616
>>16459578
I fully expect SpaceX to build various iterations of solar farms for air liquefaction and CO2 to methane conversion. This is both good PR in that they would be working to decarbonize spaceflight, but also they need the data for their interplanetary ventures.
Most of the fuel will however come from pipeline.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:45:18 UTC No. 16459618
>>16459613
Are you new to the internet? Every four years everywhere online is like this for weeks. It goes away
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:47:23 UTC No. 16459620
hello, /sfg/. i would like to discuss politics. does anyone in this space flight general thread know a place to discuss politics on the internet.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:52:37 UTC No. 16459625
>>16459618
Nah, Elon has never been this political before and unfortunately we're basically /elon/ so it's not gonna go away unless something major happens.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:53:54 UTC No. 16459627
>>16459620
If you're not worried about spaceflight for this election, then either you're not paying attention or you dont think spacex is relevant or you are in some denial land. Politics and spaceflight is intrinsically tied together, this is especially true now that communist party wants to destroy Musk and his business.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:54:04 UTC No. 16459628
>>16459620
Basically anywhere right now
>>16459625
With any luck, starship will speed up enough that it doesn't matter. Which I guess is the point
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:54:25 UTC No. 16459629
>>16459332
I have two but they're very dirty and I don't know how to clean them or how to get extra eyepieces if I can clean them.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:57:39 UTC No. 16459631
>>16459625
>now
lol
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:59:59 UTC No. 16459632
>>16459627
Why do these communists then not use their power maximally to sabotage SpaceX now? Is he going to do so after the election as a lame duck if dems lose?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:00:23 UTC No. 16459633
>>16459625
>Nah, Elon has never been this political before and unfortunately we're basically /elon/ so it's not gonna go away unless something major happens.
He never had to. The only political issue of 2020 was whether Biden would target Tesla/SpaceX somehow. I had made the prediction that he would and he did and everyone called it schizo. But we know where that landed. The signs were already there prior to the election with the California shutting down Tesla's only factory at the time(every other car factory in US was open at the time cause they were outside california), which would have potentially killed Tesla. And with Trump supporting Musk on reopening his factory, various democrats calling Musk evil, running their mouth on TV to blast Musk as evil billionaire, I knew that the stones were set on how the next 4 years would be like. Prior to that, 2016 election had nothing to do with spaceflight politics. It had nothing to do with Tesla either. Nothing would have happened, politically. 2020 was when the democrats targeted Musk.
2024 is still unfortunately a continued targeting of Musk by the democratic party. The political party fundamentally does not want Musk to exist. "Billionaires should not exist." "Private companies bad". "Cars bad" etc etc. They see SpaceX as a threat to their political ideology, their communist ideology about how individuals are evil.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:01:40 UTC No. 16459635
>>16459632
How to out yourself as a non-/sfg/ anon in one easy step.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:03:34 UTC No. 16459636
>>16459632
they have been doing that for years already
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:03:46 UTC No. 16459637
>>16459632
>Why dont they?
They have been. They've launched a dozen different lawsuits. They've tried to shoehorn in multiple laws to stop/slow SpaceX/Tesla. They've used regulatory agencies to stall all of Musk's companies. ALL OF IT. They've been funding/encouraging foreign countries like Brazil and EU to attack Musk's companies. Brazil's leader was personally installed by Biden admin. They have shown both absolute intent and absolute willingness to attack Musk in all vectors, with all his companies.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:16:17 UTC No. 16459644
>>16459635
>>16459636
>>16459637
So Biden has been pulling out all the stops to hurt SpaceX with all means and yet the government keeps awarding and honoring contracts to SpaceX.
So either he is unwilling or is constrained from actually hurting them beyond adding some friction. Even if Kamala wins no one is forecasting some massive senate or house flip that would provide cover for major action. Kamala would be similarly constrained.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:17:49 UTC No. 16459646
>>16459644
Death by thousand cuts.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:21:18 UTC No. 16459648
>>16459644
Just Because Biden has done so doesn't SpaceX SpaceX and all of Musk's companies has take it. The reason it hasnt been completely successful is because Musk has his own defense as well. But like any war, there would be stalemate. However that doesn't mean there isn't a war or that Biden admin or Harris admin would stop the war and call for truce. There's not an once of peace offering from the Biden admin that's launching these attacking. And not an once of scaling back the attack.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:23:18 UTC No. 16459653
>>16459644
the problem is that Starship will need to increase cadence massively in the future to do what Musk wants to do
even if this just stays as what amounts to slowing down everything, its still unacceptable (but it might escalate to something worse eventually)
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:24:42 UTC No. 16459657
>>16459648
And the only way to stop this war is to remove the Biden-Harris admin completely and return the government to normal status where it wont target domestic political enemies. The Biden admin is the most corrupt political admin in the US history. Nixon's spying doesnt even amount to this much of political corruption. The Obama admin spied on Trump based on Hillary's hired information who created the fake Trump Russia gate conspiracy that put the FBI on his tail and coordinated with Biden admin to stop and debunk the release of Hunter Biden laptop stories. Then they tried to lock up Trump with frivolous charges regarding Trump's hush money not being classified as campaign funds or shit.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:27:47 UTC No. 16459660
>>16459657
And further this admin is morally bankrupt as it tries to create an uneven playing field by punishing political enemies. The Starlink contract withholdment, the Starlink-Petagon negotiation being leaked to CNN as a hitpiece material, the fake Starlink-Ukraine shutting off narrative that Biden admin is pushing, etc. As it pertains to SpaceX, this admin is completely corrupt.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:35:02 UTC No. 16459665
Why are you acting like Biden is the one pulling the strings?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:36:11 UTC No. 16459667
>>16459644
>adding some friction
Unacceptable treason, off with their heads.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:37:07 UTC No. 16459669
>>16459665
Musk has been personally mentioned multiple times by the admin, all in negative ways. And if I remember right, there were multiple times where the admin personally called on to investigate and "go after him". In his own words.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:39:19 UTC No. 16459671
>>16459633
I can't believe "Cars bad" was taken over by these fucking faggots. They could've said something about efficiency or bank loans but no, you're a racist polluter and we need cities that keep track of you. Fuck I hate driving so much
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:42:55 UTC No. 16459675
>>16459667
I haven't seen Gates or Bezos cry so much publicly about government lawsuits against their companies. For a supposed alpha Musk sure acts like a bitch.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:45:13 UTC No. 16459678
>>16459675
Some people hold it in and show off a fake persona. Musk has no filters. You prefer a filter because you think thats the "real and authentic" person. It says more about you than about Musk.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:46:58 UTC No. 16459680
>>16459678
Yes. And their companies are still around and very dominant. Maybe Mr. Autism just can't handle the big leagues.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:47:48 UTC No. 16459681
>>16459675
He did have some dealings behind the scenes like how he met Gavin Newsom a few weeks back to fuck with the California Coastal Commission thing so it's not like all he does is bitching on Twitter.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 14:48:04 UTC No. 16459682
>>16459680
Their companies aren't threatened with dozens of lawsuits that are all tied to the founder/leader because those founder/leaders donate to the political party of evil and corrupt.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:12:33 UTC No. 16459698
>>16458152
why would the hydrogen charge decay, it's just lithium deuteride, right? that's not radioactive or chemically unstable, it's not going anywhere
I'd be more worried about the tritium igniter
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:13:38 UTC No. 16459699
>>16458170
Jeff came out against Kamala (he came out neutral)
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:16:01 UTC No. 16459700
>>16459699
No way Kamala would let that WaPo fiasco slide if she wins. They'd be gunning for BO too.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:26:56 UTC No. 16459708
>>16459700
They lost ~200 million dollars worth of subscribers just by Jeff not allowing his company to endorse a candidate. Its insanity.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:27:00 UTC No. 16459709
>>16459700
Maybe that party shouldn't have power if they're going to so blatantly attack people/companies they don't like for petty personal reasons? Sounds like authoritarianism to me.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:37:14 UTC No. 16459713
>>16459712
I think either side winning will be equally as funny
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:40:00 UTC No. 16459715
>>16459713
there is a possibility of an electrical college tie. that would be funny
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:40:22 UTC No. 16459717
>>16459712
>doesn't have an adblocker
L
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:42:33 UTC No. 16459718
>>16459717
the least you can do for this terrible site is disable yours. where would you go to discuss spaceflight if 4chan goes away?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:43:26 UTC No. 16459719
>>16459718
>where would you go to discuss spaceflight
outside
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:43:51 UTC No. 16459720
>>16459718
I already pay for pass, what else do you want from me
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:44:03 UTC No. 16459721
>>16459719
where other people are? no thanks
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:45:12 UTC No. 16459722
>>16459720
I tried to pay for one, payment went through, but I never got my confirmation email with the password or whatever.
They got my $ so I guess that's what's important.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:46:25 UTC No. 16459723
>>16459622
i like the new tile layout, less on sides and more on top
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:51:57 UTC No. 16459725
Starship is still too pointy
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:53:47 UTC No. 16459729
>>16459725
starship can only do 30 tons to LEO so lets fix that first
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:55:05 UTC No. 16459730
>>16459729
I think it would be more accurate to say that it can only fit 30tons
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:55:58 UTC No. 16459731
>>16459730
it's a cubic kilometer of storage onboard, which is 10 tons of water (1 g / cubic decimeter)
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:58:20 UTC No. 16459736
>>16459729
>source: my ass
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:59:04 UTC No. 16459738
>>16459736
do you have a better source?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:07:37 UTC No. 16459741
>>16459738
Elon Musk, 50 tons. Since you're a troll, you'll say that he's lying and the actual figure is worse, because "it's Elon," with no evidence to back that besides his schedules and the similarly floated limits on Falcon Heavy that obviously inspired this line of trolling.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:26:13 UTC No. 16459748
why do /sfg/ fags have to be total mindless tesla shills? its nothing to do with spaceflight
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:27:34 UTC No. 16459751
>>16459748
>no mention of Tesla in the thread except for arg about Biden admin targeting Musk
Sounds like you're in the wrong thread. Maybe wrong site, reddit is your friend.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:33:06 UTC No. 16459755
>>16459719
thats gay
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:45:50 UTC No. 16459764
>>16459332
Not an astronomer because I'm heterosexual
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:45:53 UTC No. 16459765
>>16459748
Nobody is talking about tesla? I don't even drive and have face blindness for car models, it's all the same shit. What did you mean by this non sequitur post accusing /sfg/ of something demonstrably not true?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:46:23 UTC No. 16459766
>>16459756
>V3 has much more propellant and only slightly bigger payload bay
>and it's ugly af
it's over
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 16:50:55 UTC No. 16459768
>thread is full of faggot opinions about America during overnight euronigger and foreignoid hours
they're incapable of producing anything at all of value
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:02:58 UTC No. 16459775
>>16459756
disgusting. i wish it were all a dream. starship is just a starlink launcher.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:05:30 UTC No. 16459779
>>16459775
>starship is just a starlink launcher
always was
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:08:33 UTC No. 16459780
>>16459718
that might be a good thing. the discord is now where most of the good discussions take place.
/sfg/ in 2024 is only good for containing newfags and tourists and those who got banned from the discord. Just follow rule #4 No Politics. It's not that hard.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:09:52 UTC No. 16459781
>>16459766
if it works, it works
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:12:35 UTC No. 16459785
>>16459766
>ugly af
I fixed it. Elon Musk hire me senpai
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:14:06 UTC No. 16459788
>>16459785
Also you could lose rotational control of Starship in exchange for making it look cooler
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:18:07 UTC No. 16459789
>>16459785
looks like unnecessary mass to me
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:22:27 UTC No. 16459790
>>16459788
looks like shit
you're going on the no mars list
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:24:17 UTC No. 16459792
>>16459789
>unnecessary mass
Just put them slightly toward the leeward side like the forward flaps are so you don't need to put the mass of extra tiles on the hinge connection line and can have the body do some of the thermal blocking instead
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:28:23 UTC No. 16459797
>>16459756
extend dong
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:28:45 UTC No. 16459799
>>16459756
does anyone seriously think v3 will ever land on anything other than the catch tower?
pressurefedastronaut was right... its never gonna happen.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:30:53 UTC No. 16459802
>>16459792
If I had to guess the flaps are just going to get smaller and smaller when they find out how much control authority they actually need
the less dry mass they are, the better the marginal cost of mass to orbit will be
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:30:58 UTC No. 16459803
>>16459799
We WILL drink coffee 60 meters above the Martian surface and you will like it
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:32:52 UTC No. 16459805
>>16459802
Elon will add twice the amount of flaps, including tail flaps, and then replace raptor 3s with NOOKS. Best part is every part
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:35:37 UTC No. 16459806
>>16459799
on the moon no, HLS will end up being entirely different ship
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:35:41 UTC No. 16459807
>>16459497
Normalcy bias - the post
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:37:09 UTC No. 16459808
>>16459756
Make it 12 meters wide and you can halve the length of the propellant tanks while keeping equivalent storage volume.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:39:16 UTC No. 16459810
>>16459807
>if I call it a bias, I WIN!
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:40:49 UTC No. 16459812
>>16459807
Sorry anon extremes don't happen anymore, were surfing the bell curve
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:42:37 UTC No. 16459813
>>16459808
Make it 18m wide and you can make me erect
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:42:43 UTC No. 16459814
>>16459808
They probably would have made it 12 meters already if it was that easy, everything in starbase is made for 9m ship
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:44:50 UTC No. 16459815
>>16459814
The lead time for procuring the buildings is longer than the time it's probably taken them to realize they need a bigger ship.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:45:57 UTC No. 16459816
>>16459810
>Nothing EVER happens
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:47:14 UTC No. 16459817
>>16458939
I can't believe they're releasing a new dekafumo Cirno
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:47:38 UTC No. 16459818
>>16459815
there is no hurry, the critical thing is getting reusability working
after that they can increase the payload by stretching and after that maybe make Starship 12m or 18m, but have a fleet of Starship 9m already working, launching stuff and all the while SpaceX learns and iterates on stuff that is directly transferrable to the fatter ships
pivoting to a fatter ship directly would be inefficient
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:48:38 UTC No. 16459820
>>16458965
relativity space is about to go bankrupt too
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:50:10 UTC No. 16459821
HLS looks like shit wow
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:50:31 UTC No. 16459822
>>16459019
/sfg/ - spending frivolously general
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:51:29 UTC No. 16459823
new glenn launch please
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 17:57:17 UTC No. 16459826
>>16459051
we lose hope in American dominance and Russian Propoganda about how the West is Falling hits a lot harder
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:00:32 UTC No. 16459829
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:01:47 UTC No. 16459830
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:02:18 UTC No. 16459831
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:03:11 UTC No. 16459832
>>16459829
>>16459830
>>16459831
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/185276
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:04:01 UTC No. 16459833
>>16459831
>more fucking Tesla touchscreens
S O V L L E S S
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:05:50 UTC No. 16459835
>>16459834
>to the stars... what kind of future is that?
What the fuck is with all of these mutants that hate their own species' survival
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:06:14 UTC No. 16459836
>>16459834
>since this dropped
Literally nobody has even looked at that bullshit until you posted it. I recommend that you go away and don't come back.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:07:09 UTC No. 16459837
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:07:52 UTC No. 16459838
>>16459834
more posts confirming he is an absolute fucking faggot
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:10:03 UTC No. 16459839
>>16459834
I don't know or care who that is.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:10:19 UTC No. 16459840
>>16459833
Brainless post, even modern fighters have touchscreens
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:10:33 UTC No. 16459842
>>16459833
what do you expect boomer? the future is touchscreens
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:11:15 UTC No. 16459843
>>16459830
>wake up to a blood curdling scream
>cant find my crew mates anywhere, space suits are still in the airlock
>oh god oh fuck oh god
>they hid in the unused voids behind the crew bunks to fuck with me
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:15:23 UTC No. 16459846
>>16459831
>real HLS is revealed
>the TVs aren't windows, they are actually TVs
its over
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:15:28 UTC No. 16459847
>>16459840
>>16459842
Cringe
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:16:37 UTC No. 16459848
>>16459847
this guy hates tesla so much he says inane shit on a space flight forum
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:19:12 UTC No. 16459850
>>16459829
I love wasted space and potential
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:19:17 UTC No. 16459851
>>16459849
What the fuck? You only need half this space, IF that, to store that many bunk racks.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:19:27 UTC No. 16459852
>>16459849
>20 bunks
space Big Brother when?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:20:37 UTC No. 16459853
>>16459848
>hates Tesla
Meds
>>16459851
It isn't what it will look like in the end, just a testing prototype
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:25:12 UTC No. 16459855
>>16459851
It's more efficient for the overall floorspace to only expose the entrances.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:26:03 UTC No. 16459856
>>16459829
>>16459830
I'm calling it now, one of these days we're going to learn the hard way that you need to require an unlock from HQ or passcodes from two people to access critical hardware. If you have redundant systems, they also should be in two different locations. Eventually these ships will have a large enough crew that the chance of someone succumbing to space madness and taking a hatchet to shit becomes too significant to ignore.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:27:20 UTC No. 16459857
>>16459364
just bring a gun?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:37:32 UTC No. 16459861
>>16459364
>>16459857
there is nothing to fear. shooting someone in the head and driving away is as easy as it sounds. nobody can bother you if you take the shot.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:37:55 UTC No. 16459862
>>16459829
>>16459830
>no fire place, maybe an lcd one if we are lucky
>no wet bar
>no shag carpet
>no conversation pit
I know its 2 years old but this is not looking good
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:43:15 UTC No. 16459868
>>16459865
mars vehicle won't have it either
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:48:06 UTC No. 16459869
>>16459698
you're right, i'm wrong, forgot that deuterium is stable.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:48:54 UTC No. 16459870
>>16459865
glass is for homos, they put glass up their anuses
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:49:32 UTC No. 16459871
Realistically starship will only be able to carry like 10 people max to Mars
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:51:08 UTC No. 16459872
>>16459871
elon husk scamming people again, only 500k colony by 2050
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:51:28 UTC No. 16459873
>>16459871
realistically only 3 max. for 10 you would need a separate supply ship following them
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:52:52 UTC No. 16459874
i read a comment that said europe's IRIS2 constellation isnt meant to just provide their own starlink, but to provide their rockets with enough satellites to launch to keep their rocket program alive. if true, i think this will become the standard amongst major space countries. they'll have their own large national constellations as a kind of subsidy to keep their launchers alive in the face of spacex.
it's going to be expensive but if it happens we'll see the number of annual launches explode. we could see 1000+ launches per year before the end of the decade.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:52:56 UTC No. 16459875
>>16459873
Isn't that given? But they would still need year worth of supplies in the one carrying people
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:53:27 UTC No. 16459876
>>16459873
no you wouldn't
stop lying dumb gorilla nigger
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:55:42 UTC No. 16459880
>>16459874
TOTAL ASTRONOMER DEATH
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:57:24 UTC No. 16459881
>>16459865
EVA suits won't have windows either. Camera and VR headset is safer
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:01:02 UTC No. 16459883
>>16459881
unless the camera or vr software crashes
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:02:21 UTC No. 16459885
>>16459880
They'll have advertising drones by the end of the decade. Drones following you around at night making sure you know where to buy a burger.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:02:24 UTC No. 16459886
>>16459883
you can use a backup camera in space
you can't use a backup helmet in space
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:09:07 UTC No. 16459892
>>16459886
if the camera breaks how will you install the backup?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:09:46 UTC No. 16459894
>>16459865
It's a mockup. The screens are simulating windows. The latest renders still show windows.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:10:55 UTC No. 16459896
>>16459869
yeah, and the ignitor having decayed just means there's a huge variability in yields, right? like they're all going to fizzle with kiloton yields
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:14:46 UTC No. 16459898
>>16459897
what are those cylinders? oxygen and other gasses? is the orange water?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:15:05 UTC No. 16459900
>>16459897
https://x.com/AndreiBtvt/status/183
no fun allowed, this is sfg
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:15:15 UTC No. 16459901
>>16459899
i can save her
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:15:42 UTC No. 16459902
>>16459898
That's the Tang dispensers.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:16:21 UTC No. 16459904
>>16459894
>latest render
>still has solar panels
The panels were replaced by gay Tesla batteries a long time ago
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:17:48 UTC No. 16459906
>>16459898
spare rocket propellant
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:18:42 UTC No. 16459908
>>16459900
im tired of bait posters
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:19:15 UTC No. 16459909
>>16459899
>max diameter: 17m
Not to worry, she will RETVRN
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:22:38 UTC No. 16459911
>>16459898
Missiles.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:23:25 UTC No. 16459913
>>16459909
they are definitely screwing the numbers on that one. booster is clearly said to be 12m and the ship is the same or less. Maybe they are including the fins so the maximum circle it could it in.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:23:56 UTC No. 16459914
Falcon 5 when
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:24:07 UTC No. 16459915
>>16459892
obviously you'd have several cameras on your helmet, maybe even your torso. Hell you could even do some real smart shit like installing cameras on your gloves or tools to help with precise work
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:25:37 UTC No. 16459918
>>16459904
that makes no sense you retard
you go on the no mars list
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:26:19 UTC No. 16459920
>>16459918
so who else is on that list?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:27:06 UTC No. 16459921
>>16459920
a lot of faggots
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:28:04 UTC No. 16459923
>>16459748
>>16459833
>>16459904
why does this nigger keep comparing everything to Tesla? another case of EDS?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:30:10 UTC No. 16459927
Tesla is the spacex of cars
spacex is the Tesla of rockets
rockets is the spacex of cars
spacex is the rockets of Tesla
Tesla is the cars of rockets
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:30:23 UTC No. 16459928
>>16459840
you realize that's beyond retarded and trying to operate a touchscreen during high G manuvers is fucking harder than flipping a switch because your arm shakes right
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:31:33 UTC No. 16459930
>>16459842
touchscreens are retard tier glorified babysitting devices for toddlers who can't operate a keyboard and you should feel bad about ever shilling for them
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:32:01 UTC No. 16459931
>>16459928
the future is direct neural control, no screens at all, just featureless pods
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:34:35 UTC No. 16459936
>>16459931
that's even worse because you can pass the fuck out during a high G roll
basically if you want to put a fucking touchscreen in your cockpit you should just stop and replace your pilot with an automated or remotely operated system
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:41:19 UTC No. 16459946
>>16459915
if its all cameras you may as well stay in the base and control a surface robot while seeing everything with a vr headset attached to an array of drones
<<< like this
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:42:47 UTC No. 16459948
>>16459946
no that's gay and retarded
with cameras you still see what you'd normally see
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:43:14 UTC No. 16459950
>"noooo you cant just launch military satellites into space, ONLY WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT!!1"
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
a fucking joke
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:44:13 UTC No. 16459951
>>16459940
>have pet squirrel
>don't get its rabies shots
skill issue
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:45:12 UTC No. 16459954
>>16459950
retard.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:47:22 UTC No. 16459957
>>16459950
>Despite concerns about Muskโs erratic behavior and reports that the billionaire has had regular contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Saltzman said he had no concerns about US government collaboration with SpaceX.
there it is.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:48:04 UTC No. 16459958
Ionosphere-M satellites are being prepared for launch from the Vostochny cosmodrome โ what are their tasks?
On November 5, we will observe the launch of the Soyuz spacecraft with scientific equipment on board. The Ionosphere-M devices No. 1 and No. 2 are part of the Ionosonde project, which solves the tasks of monitoring near-Earth space, studying ionospheric plasma and wave processes in it.
In addition to ionospheric sensing, the instruments on the satellites will study cosmic radiation and electromagnetic fields.
Simultaneously with the Ionosphere-M observations, plasma density measurements using the resonance sensing method on the SamSat-Ionosphere cubesat satellite are also planned. The spacecraft will be launched together with Ionosphere-M as a side load consisting of a total of 53 small satellites.
Read more about the project on our website.
Photo: Ivan Timoshenko
Source: IKI RAS
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 19:56:45 UTC No. 16459965
>>16459940
Yup.
>>16459951
raised the squirrel for years, where is it going to just spontaneously get rabies from? No common sense in our government at all.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:00:29 UTC No. 16459967
>>16459958
Given that Russia has exited the market of selling launch to other countries, I expect 100% of their payloads to be military. Either earth observation or communication.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:10:50 UTC No. 16459980
'ate sharks
'ate beetles
luv squirrels
simple as
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:16:45 UTC No. 16459985
>>16459967
There was a military launch in the begging of a month from Plesetsk and will be another one from Voatochny in the end of November.
That launch will be for science
The Ionosonde project is aimed at solving the problems of monitoring near-Earth space and fundamental research of space plasma and wave processes in it. During the project, it is planned to create a space grouping of four Ionosphere-M satellites and one Zond-M satellite.
The ionosphere is an area of the Earth's atmosphere at altitudes from 50 km to about 2,000 km, which contains, in addition to neutral atoms and molecules, also charged particles โ ions and electrons formed under the influence of solar radiation. Due to this, the ionosphere conducts an electric current and is able to reflect or distort radio signals.
In addition, electric currents arising in the Earth's magnetosphere also pass through the ionosphere, so it is the most important element affecting geomagnetic activity: the formation of magnetic storms, the appearance of auroras, and so on.
But studying the ionosphere is difficult. In fact, it can only be reached with the help of an artificial Earth satellite. Satellites for ionospheric research and monitoring should be equipped with devices capable of measuring the main parameters of cosmic plasma โ particle concentration, composition and temperature, as well as parameters of electromagnetic fields and wave radiation generated in the vicinity of satellites or coming from remote areas.
But if we take measurements only at the altitude of the satellite's orbit, then we get data only about this area. What happens above and below her is anyone's guess. A device capable of probing the ionosphere at different altitudes and presenting the results in the form of an altitude profile can solve this problem. Such a device is
called an ionosonde.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:29:17 UTC No. 16459997
>>16459985
The complex of instruments on Ionosphere-M satellites is designed to measure the parameters of ionospheric plasma, cosmic radiation and electromagnetic fields:
LAERTES ionosonde for measuring the vertical distribution of the electron concentration of ionospheric plasma. The device has two main operating modes. In passive mode, it works as a radio spectrometer in the frequency range 100 kHz โ 20 MHz. In active mode, it is used as an ionospheric locator in the same frequency range.
PES is a receiver of signals from GPS/GLONASS navigation satellites for determining the characteristics of the ionosphere by radioโexchange method.
The BEACON is a transmitter of coherent radio signals at frequencies of 150 and 400 MHz. According to the signals received from the MAYAK device at ground stations, the density distribution of ionospheric electrons will be restored by low-altitude tomography.
NVK with magnetic and electric sensors is a receiver-analyzer of electromagnetic waves in the low-frequency range up to 20 kHz for measuring natural cosmic plasma radiation and signals of artificial origin from power grids and ground-based low-frequency transmitters.
SPER/1 is a plasma and energetic radiation spectrometer (ions and electrons in the range 0.05 keV โ 100 MeV) designed to monitor plasma entering the ionosphere "from above" โ from the magnetosphere.
GALS/1 is a spectrometer of galactic cosmic rays and magnetospheric radiation (electrons and protons in the range from 0.15 to 600 MeV).
SG/1 is a gamma-ray spectrometer in the energy range of 20 keV โ 10 MeV.
BKUSNI is a unit for controlling the operation of devices of the target equipment complex, collecting measurement results, broadcasting the flow of information to a telemetry system for transmission to Earth.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:34:34 UTC No. 16460003
>>16459996
either a threat of physical violence or latent homosexual tendencies
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:39:21 UTC No. 16460008
>>16459996
Spanking as punishment, not as a kink fetish. Which tracks for how old Biden is, but it'll be viewed entirely out of concept, because corporal punishment has long since been diluted from normal cultural and behavioral patterns in society today. As using violence to establish standards of discipline and manners doesn't always work well.
It's just an old fart being weird. Glad he's not on the ballot in being president again for next term.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:42:31 UTC No. 16460011
>>16459936
what is this brain damage post
spacex has autopilot because they aren't boing
If you pass out it doesn't matter if you have touch screens or switches, what the fuck
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:52:43 UTC No. 16460016
I'M GENUINESLLY HATING ELON RIGHT NOW, FROM A GUY WHOW AS WITH HIM UNTIL THIS YEAR.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:53:49 UTC No. 16460019
>>16459849
I wonder if they will hear each other masturbating.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 21:04:08 UTC No. 16460025
>>16460016
seethe, cope, mald, dilate etc
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 21:33:45 UTC No. 16460050
>only 12,000 jobs were added in October in the US
how can we create more space jobs?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 21:58:10 UTC No. 16460075
>>16460050
There will be a huge labor shortage for space jobs
They'll just all be on Mars
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 21:59:38 UTC No. 16460077
When?
https://x.com/RuiHuang_art/status/1
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 21:59:53 UTC No. 16460078
>>16459951
>actually you didn't follow the rules so the state can break into your house and kill your pet
die
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:00:26 UTC No. 16460079
>>16460075
I can't believe Mars hasn't added even a single job to the Martian economy this quarter. I'm voting for a different Elon next election.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:02:09 UTC No. 16460081
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:02:21 UTC No. 16460082
>>16460011
>spacex has autopilot
I know.
so why even include touchscreens
why even bother sending people if everything can be automated
who needs redundant manual control systems in case of error AMIRITE
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:02:53 UTC No. 16460084
>>16460077
>covering an aerodynamic vehicle with greebles
>implications of space elevator
>space station
>implications of FTL
sci fi SLOP
>>16460079
You know we can't add more jobs until the next arrivals dumbass
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:05:09 UTC No. 16460089
>>16460081
>election days away
>non-trump op
Are you trying to sabotage this election?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:11:08 UTC No. 16460100
>>16460079
We can't add jobs to Mars without immigrants from Earth
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:18:06 UTC No. 16460106
>>16460082
>who needs redundant manual control systems in case of error AMIRITE
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:18:51 UTC No. 16460107
>>16459829
monumentally stupid
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:19:07 UTC No. 16460109
>>16460082
>teacher: there are no dumb questions
>you:
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:23:45 UTC No. 16460115
>>16460107
username cropped and page 10, what a lucky guy
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:33:19 UTC No. 16460122
>>16459290
>we dont need 45 tonnes, New Horizons was only about 450kg
450kg wasn't all that was needed, it was all they could send on the available rockets at the time. NASA would have jizzed their collective pants at the idea of being able to send 45 tons worth of equipment to Pluto.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 23:04:07 UTC No. 16460189
>>16459856
Kanedaโฆ
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 07:51:19 UTC No. 16460660
Musk should move space x to india where he'll have less red tape.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 07:58:09 UTC No. 16460666