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🧵 /sfg/ - space flight general

Anonymous No. 16570964

rescue mission edition

trump and musk are going to rescue the astronauts that boing and nasa stranded in space

previous >>16567782

Anonymous No. 16570970

I think we should launch both of them into space on a one way trip

Anonymous No. 16570990

>>16570970
Why does it upset you that they're rescuing stranded astronauts?

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Anonymous No. 16570996

>Cell Mutations
Beware the mutant, the heretic, the Martian

Anonymous No. 16571001

>>16570964
We need government funding for a big ladder and a really long rope.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16571002

How is the female helicopter pilot causing that crash in DC and the fact that affirmative action is now illegal going to affect future astronaut selection? Women won't be able to compete on merit and skill, so does this mean there will no longer be any female astronauts?

Anonymous No. 16571003

Non-/pol/ thread

>>16570999
>>16570999
>>16570999

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Anonymous No. 16571014

Fuck yeah, political /sci/ence

Anonymous No. 16571043

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885089037112791069

The FAA has been hiring literal retards as a priority

Anonymous No. 16571046

>>16570964
Can we kill the commies while we're at it?

Anonymous No. 16571082

>>16571003
the astronaut thing is space flight related. just because the president is involved (of course he is) doesnt make it political. get over it.

Anonymous No. 16571086

>>16570996
You know this makes me think. How do we avoid a microplastic hell on Mars? There has to be a lot of early colony uses of plastics so a simple ban isn't that easy right?

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Anonymous No. 16571110

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxow1asyMHw
starship launch tower at the cape is getting foundations drilled and the gigabay area has already had some ground clearing/work done

chopsticks on tower two in boca chica installed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rskaOP1LB_E

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Anonymous No. 16571118

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3bGXchBI-k

flametrench progressing

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https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1884969562782720087

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https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1884460101412479442

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Anonymous No. 16571126

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1883626956580847994

Anonymous No. 16571128

>>16570964
This one really set the estronaut off

Anonymous No. 16571130

>>16571128
longest post I've seen from him ever

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Anonymous No. 16571139

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

H3 launch coming up in a few days

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Anonymous No. 16571141

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4924/1

Anonymous No. 16571143

>>16571141
Couple years too late Paul

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Anonymous No. 16571145

https://spacenews.com/europe-awards-900-million-contract-for-argonaut-lunar-lander-development/
>The European Space Agency is also positioning Argonaut, which has a capacity of approximately two metric tons of cargo, as a potential asset for future NASA Artemis lunar missions.
>As part of Artemis, NASA directed SpaceX and Blue Origin last year to develop cargo variants of their Human Landing System (HLS) landers, capable of transporting at least 12 metric tons to the lunar surface.

ESA awarded Alenia Space a contract to develop a lunar cargo lander
its going to be delivering 2 tons vs the 12 tons that was the goal for HLS
what Starship actually delivers remains an open question, how much could it do? 100t?

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Anonymous No. 16571149

https://spacenews.com/artemis-contractors-defend-current-architecture-as-fastest-way-to-return-to-the-moon/
>“What we need to do is tell the people in the new administration and anyone we can talk to this about is, hey, the fastest way to get humans back on the moon is to stay the course,” he said. “Things take a long time to build and certify and, if you throw them away every four years and start over, that’s probably the slowest and most expensive thing we could do.”
>“Stay the course. Let’s put humans back on the moon and let’s go do the things that we’ve been tasked to go do,” he concluded. Others on the panel, including officials from NASA, Boeing, and ground systems contractor Amentum, agreed, but did not add to his comments.


SLS contractors shitting their pants

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Anonymous No. 16571150

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RATtBPh-mrA
>Blue Origin's Rocket Park

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Anonymous No. 16571163

>>16571141

Anonymous No. 16571167

>>16571125
SOVL
>>16571150
Souless

Anonymous No. 16571177

>>16570964
this is so fucking retarded, I've lost what little respect I still had for musk with this publicity stunt.

Anonymous No. 16571182

>>16571177
what stunt? rescuing the astronauts?

Anonymous No. 16571185

>>16571086
Reject the weakness of plastic. Seek the strength and surety of steel.

Anonymous No. 16571186

>>16571128
Berger seemed pissed off too. I don't get it

Anonymous No. 16571195

>>16571086
There's no oil. The conditions that make disposable plastic viable on Earth will not be there on Mars. It is still possible to make for industrial processes, but will be incredibly energy and water intensive. Also not for nothing there's no environment. Everything will be recycled by a machine

Anonymous No. 16571196

>>16571182
Trying to make it seem like Trump has anything to do with it

Anonymous No. 16571197

>>16570999
>>16570999
>>16570999
^real stage

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Anonymous No. 16571198

>Trump asked if he would visit Starship

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Anonymous No. 16571204

If American astronauts have to suffer to stop Boer von Braun and his cheeto fuhrer, surely that's a price worth paying?

Anonymous No. 16571209

>>16571204
>suffer
>astronaut in space

Anonymous No. 16571213

>>16571003
>>16571197
you will never be a woman

Anonymous No. 16571214

pebbles

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Anonymous No. 16571216

https://x.com/cnunezimages/status/1885145113422176420

Anonymous No. 16571237

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Me1K25fwQ
getting tired of this 40 year old slut sticking her tits into every video

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Anonymous No. 16571245

>>16571216
k-kino...

Anonymous No. 16571247

>>16571216
soon we'll get something like this but for missile row

Anonymous No. 16571251

>>16571182
>rescuing the astronauts
From what? Free spacewalk, and six extra months of experience?

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Anonymous No. 16571270

https://x.com/bscholl/status/1885184074299343170

founder of Boom Aero

Anonymous No. 16571271

>>16571196
This is straight from the Trump school of public relations: You're upset or confused by these most recent antics, but you're not talking about the Sieg Heiling any more.

Anonymous No. 16571272

>>16571251
Way more rehab than they signed on for

Anonymous No. 16571273

>>16571271
The sieg heils dominated their thoughts for a week. Bad idea when the trump admin obviously is ready for TBD

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Anonymous No. 16571282

>>16571272
>WAAAH WAAAAAAH MUH REHAB
>I GOT TO SPEND A YEAR OF MY LIFE IN SPACE OH WOE IS ME
soulless perma-earther hands typed this post

Anonymous No. 16571283

>>16571282
What else astronauts do outside of going to space

Anonymous No. 16571291

>>16571216
gigabased

Anonymous No. 16571294

>>16571271
>ou're not talking about the Sieg Heiling any more.
lol thats right. on to the next currenthing! the ride never stops!

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Anonymous No. 16571295

>>16571272
>instead of just piloting the Shartliner to ISS and back, Williams actually became the commander of ISS (for the second time), and performed her ninth spacewalk, making her top female astronaut, with most EVAs

Anonymous No. 16571308

>>16571270
Heritage lol

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16571310

So now that we're in the phase of week 2 of Trump admin, how many of you protested and castrated yourself?

Anonymous No. 16571311

>>16571270
Don't tell him about the computer systems that control the nuclear arsenal

Anonymous No. 16571312

>>16571270
>>16571308
I've got a heritage VCR but I still use VLC to watch stuff

Anonymous No. 16571314

>>16571270
Trying to make a new program would cost billions and it would be somehow much worse and crash all the time.

Anonymous No. 16571320

>>16571314
Wouldnt it cost trillions and take a billion years to make? How did modern life even came to be? It seems like everything is impossible magic that cannot be improved upon.

Anonymous No. 16571321

>>16571320
We are a cargo cult society living in a post-apocalypse but nobody can tell because the zombies aren't rotting.

Anonymous No. 16571324

>>16571314
have they tried not hiring indians to make it?

Anonymous No. 16571326

>>16571324
Impossible

Anonymous No. 16571333

>>16571216
Modern day cathedrals

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Anonymous No. 16571342

>its real

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16571343

I wish to discuss the recent helicopter-plane crash

Anonymous No. 16571344

>>16571342
WE

Anonymous No. 16571347

>>16571343
There's nothing to it. Automated crash avoidance would have avoided it. A universal flight path of every flying object relayed to all aircrafts in the vicinity would have avoided it. Encrypt it, white list it, if you have to. Just going by word of mouth and field of view, personal judgement doesn't cut it in 2025. Its just dumb humans not implementing basic 21st century transponder system

Anonymous No. 16571348

>>16571141
Let me guess, Paul's solution to all this is "to fund NASA properly". Yay, Boing and Locksneed laughing all the way to the bank :^)

Anonymous No. 16571349

>>16571347
>Automated crash avoidance would have avoided it.
but what it stop the helicopter pilot flying directly into the other plane's path?

Anonymous No. 16571350

>>16571349
You know it wouldn't, why ask?

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Anonymous No. 16571352

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrAGGV-hpVM
>Blue Ring Pathfinder

Anonymous No. 16571354

>>16571343
The Biden FAA fucking caused it

Anonymous No. 16571355

>>16570803
Trying to build structures that can't be damaged by meteor strikes is retarded. You need to build many structures over large areas so that no meteor strike can destroy the entirety of any one critical system.

But obviously if it's a major design criterion you should just put everything you can underground instead. There's already a nearly infinite shield that you don't need to construct.

I rate your idea hexagonal city/10 (really dumb idea)

Anonymous No. 16571356

>>16571344
HAVE

Anonymous No. 16571357

>>16571352
now they just need a servicing sat that can come up and add/remove cubesats attached to the blue ring

Anonymous No. 16571358

>>16571086
Most or all water will be actively recycled, so you just need to ensure this process removes microplastics.

Anonymous No. 16571360

>>16571355
spreading things out is expensive and people want to live close to each other

Anonymous No. 16571361

>>16571141
Just build an alternative launch provider with higher cadence and lower prices, Paul, you faggot.

Anonymous No. 16571364

>>16571357
they could use another blue ring for that

Anonymous No. 16571366

>>16571360
Then live underground or risk being destroyed by a single falling rock. It’s not my problem.

Anonymous No. 16571370

>be FAA
>don't have enough funds to stop air crash
>DOGE still wants to cut your funding

Anonymous No. 16571371

>>16571352
how come they can only fit 3 tons on it? what happened to NG lifting 45 tons? what are they doing with the other 42? what a waste

Anonymous No. 16571372

>>16571370
>Oopsy poopsy we accidentally approved 2 flight paths that resulted in a collision
>That'll be 69 billion dollars + tip
Quote from the FAA

Anonymous No. 16571373

>>16571370
its not a lack of funding, its incompetence and going out of their way to hire "minorities" and actually disabled people

Anonymous No. 16571374

>>16571370
>don't have enough funds to stop air crash
You are retarded.

Anonymous No. 16571376

>>16571370
boeing should build planes that dont crash

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>>16571343
https://x.com/amuse/status/1885335310642356269

new angle

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Anonymous No. 16571378

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1885331236316426531

4 more weeks

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Anonymous No. 16571382

>>16571378
so what will the goals be this time? a repeat of IFT 7? Or will they add something else on top of that? IMO achieving orbit would be pretty good for publicity and to clear up the negative opinions that formed after the last failure, even if that is ultimately meaningless from a technical standpoint.

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Anonymous No. 16571383

new law: as the number of space traffic around a celestial object grows, so too does the volume of atmosphere around the object, due to the gases and microparticles emitted by the spacecraft

the atmosphere of the earth will expand and we'll end up with a light haze around even the deadest of worlds like the moon

we'll call it brap's law

Anonymous No. 16571387

>>16571378
why not sooner? elon is president now

Anonymous No. 16571389

>>16571387
Seriously this, /sfg/ told me that starship would be launching way more now.

Anonymous No. 16571390

>>16571382
they are not going to do some purely PR launch, the public is completely ignorant anyway

Anonymous No. 16571392

>>16571389
because SpaceX isnt ready

Anonymous No. 16571393

>>16571392
You mean /sfg/ lied to me?

Anonymous No. 16571394

>>16571393
Yes

Anonymous No. 16571395

>>16571393
Yes. SpaceX is the one doing the investigation, and they don't know what caused the failure

Anonymous No. 16571396

Elon forgot about SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16571398

>>16570837
>Rokot-M
looks like this is a false alarm based on the reported drop zones in the NOTAMs. More likely to be a Soyuz-2v or a missile test.

Anonymous No. 16571404

>>16571342
Yeah at this rate the fucking thing is going to be renamed the 昆仑 Second Economic Region. This shit is pathetic

Anonymous No. 16571416

>>16571370
I do think this crash can be blamed on Elon Musk

Anonymous No. 16571418

>>16571377
Which one of these is the heli and which is the plane. Also how could've a collision occurred when both objects are so bright. Are the pilots blind?

Anonymous No. 16571422

>>16571377
>chuds claiming the heli pilot was a tranny
please be true please be true please be true this would be too fucking funny

Anonymous No. 16571426

https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-mars-dream-is-back-how-to-go

new Zoo-brine
reasonably based and only a touch retarded

Anonymous No. 16571427

Anyone else doubt these plane crashes even happen? Remember when than plane allegedly crashed into the petangon? And all we got was a single UFO tier quality recording of the crash.

Anonymous No. 16571448

>>16571427
every time I hear about a celebrity or whatever dying in a plane crash I think it's bullshit. planes don't crash. Yuri Gagarin? shot down. William Anders? weird way to fake your death when your already 90 but whatever.

helicopter crashes on the other hand I buy. fuck those death machines

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Anonymous No. 16571456

>>16571196

Anonymous No. 16571458

>>16571177
Anon, Russia's space taxi is no longer available for US astronauts. Why do you want to sabotage the US space program?

Anonymous No. 16571459

>>16571456
If I was """""stuck""""" on the ISS I wouldn't be complaining.

Anonymous No. 16571460

>>16571456
This is disgusting

Anonymous No. 16571462

>>16571456
I know it'd be a bad decision for various reasons, but if I were Musk I'd use this as a chance to visit the station myself, since it could easily be read that way. It'd be costly and wouldn't change anything beyond getting the Boeing crew back a couple months early, but I'd do it anyway because it'd be cool. It might even bolster confidence in Dragon if the CEO rode it to space and back, but I don't expect him to actually take that risk. I would though.

Anonymous No. 16571463

>>16571459
Did those astronauts ever complain? I'm sure it was inconvenient because they didn't have stuff for long term visit until later, but that's what they train for.

Anonymous No. 16571464

>>16571460
Cheap political points from people who don't know better.
They're coming back on the exact same schedule as before he took the daddy chair again, but who knows or cares about that?

Anonymous No. 16571466

>>16571128
This one what?
Sauce?

Anonymous No. 16571467

>>16571237
>totally not an ad
>please watch my tits

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Anonymous No. 16571468

Any comments about this video?

https://rumble.com/v5g7119-big-thank-you-to-the-faa-for-slowing-down-the-reptilian-invasion.html

This dude says that the FAA was saving earth from reptilian invasion and electromagnetic radiation death by delaying Starship's flights.

Anonymous No. 16571471

blue ring is the future

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Anonymous No. 16571472

>>16571216

Anonymous No. 16571474

>>16571468
seems plausible to me

Anonymous No. 16571476

>>16571462
I would bet my entire net worth that the oldspace consortium would take the opportunity to just kill him.
>another SpaceX rocket blows up, this time with Elon on board
ULA sniper but real

Anonymous No. 16571477

>>16571456
Retards purposefully taking this to be a literal statement rather than a fluff statement. When your brain is on propaganda, you cannot take the common sense path.

Anonymous No. 16571478

>>16571477
What are you even saying

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Anonymous No. 16571485

>solar escape velocity 617 km/s
>solar wind velocity 400 km/s
so it falls back to the Sun?

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Anonymous No. 16571492

>>16571396
He doesn't care about it unless it's to give Trump some PR points

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16571493

For those interested we're about to play /int/ after the current game >>16571486

Anonymous No. 16571495

More like Boing, cuz if it's Boeing, I bounce

Anonymous No. 16571509

So, are they going to make new suits for the stranded astronauts that can interface with the dragon crew capsule?
Did they keep the starliner suits at the ISS or send them back down with starliner, and even if they kept them up there, could they even be used to work with crew dragon?
Would spaceX even allow it if nasa asked to make a jerryrigged interface to get it to work?

Anonymous No. 16571512

>>16571418
The one moving left-to-right is the helicopter. The one coming straight toward the camera is the plane.
>both objects are so bright
The plane is only that bright because you're staring into it's landing lights; it's not nearly as bright (though still quite visible) from the side, where the heli is.

Anonymous No. 16571513

>>16571493
>wheel_stop
I miss xer

Anonymous No. 16571514

>>16571487
What is this type of graph called?

Anonymous No. 16571521

>>16571487
>Vehicles are not to scale

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>>16571493

Anonymous No. 16571527

>>16571485
unless boosted to high velocity by something else or it falls toward another mass then i guess so.

Anonymous No. 16571528

>>16571509
What? Crew 9 only sent 2 people up so those 2 could come back which obviously included suits too. Now they are waiting for Crew 10 Dragon to be ready, so when Crew 10 goes to ISS Crew 9 comes back.
Crew 10 got delayed because new Dragon needed more time.

Anonymous No. 16571530

>>16571487
oh no, it has EDS too

Anonymous No. 16571531

>>16571082
The trannies can't stop projecting their own obsession with politics on everyone else, they can't help themselves, they have zero self awareness, they're too low IQ to control their emotions and paranoia.
>I go to /sci/ to shill my political agenda therefore everyone on /sci/ must be exactly like me

Anonymous No. 16571532

>>16571528
Are crew dragon suits one size fits all?

Anonymous No. 16571534

>>16571532
No idea to be honest, but I doubt it needs to fit perfectly just for flight suit.

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>>16571514
mission schematic

Anonymous No. 16571537

>trannies
uh oh, my sperg radar is going off!

Anonymous No. 16571540

>>16571462
Dude, Musk must be one of the most hated people in the world at the moment, perhaps only behind Trump and Putin, it's a fucking risk to have him anywhere close a rocket, you just know they will try to sabotage it.

Anonymous No. 16571541

>>16571493
where on the globe will the spent rockets land?

Anonymous No. 16571546

>>16571472
>I've seen things you people wouldn't believe

Anonymous No. 16571547

>>16571541
I want to put my rocket inside shuttle chan and spend it if you catch my drift

Anonymous No. 16571550

>>16571547
I'm afraid I don't, could you explain?

Anonymous No. 16571553

>>16571532
SpaceX suits are custom fit.

Anonymous No. 16571554

>>16571537
you will never be a woman

Anonymous No. 16571556

>>16571540
stop going to EDS safe spaces

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16571558

>>16571541
hopefully in /int/'s net

Anonymous No. 16571561

>>16571554
that's right
and you will never be a man

Anonymous No. 16571562

>>16571531
i'm not a tranny thoughever, i just make fun of all politician fellatio.

Anonymous No. 16571563

>>16571550
nta, but i think (only think, mind you) that he desires to rendezvous and dock with 'shuttle chan' for payload insertion. Could be wrong

Anonymous No. 16571565

>>16571554
why are you saying that, you're implying i want to be one, i'm a man, was born one, and i'm happy with that.
you will never be a man however, you lack the testosterone.

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Anonymous No. 16571566

https://x.com/DimaZeniuk/status/1885355530597593282

Anonymous No. 16571568

>>16571566
This is blue board

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Anonymous No. 16571569

https://x.com/DimaZeniuk/status/1885358975132024905

Anonymous No. 16571570

>>16571568
*Blue Origin board

Anonymous No. 16571576

>>16571570
Oh yeah? Then where are my stock options?

Anonymous No. 16571578

>>16571576
in orbit, you just have to go get them

Anonymous No. 16571584

>>16571576
If Blue Origin was publicly traded, where would the valuation of the company stand?
More than ULA, but not much more. Without the single payer billionaire, the business would have failed. Will they ever reach breakeven?

Anonymous No. 16571588

>>16571553
So how are they going to custom fit these suits for them when they are up on the ISS?

Anonymous No. 16571590

>>16571584
>Will they ever reach breakeven?
they barely even reach the kármán line lmao

Anonymous No. 16571591

>>16571584
Blue has no income outside of New Shepard, their valuation would be lower than you think.

Anonymous No. 16571594

>>16571588
anon they are not making skintight plugsuits

Anonymous No. 16571598

>>16570964
How much is Boeing paying to compensate the taxpayers and the astronauts for all the trouble they caused by supplying defective spacecraft to NASA?

Anonymous No. 16571599

>>16571594
still, probably a first, going up in one type of suit, going down in another.

Anonymous No. 16571601

>>16571598
>Boeing
>paying
Lol.

Anonymous No. 16571604

>>16571598
Taxpayers are paying for privilege of using Boeing stuff

Anonymous No. 16571607

>>16571598
Air Force One planes are to be delivered by the end of this year, free of charge.
An apology, and incentive for keeping the contract. Air Force One will eventually be a SpaceX vehicle, but not this decade.

Anonymous No. 16571617

>>16571607
Surely boeing wont let their DEI hires put together airforce one right?

Anonymous No. 16571621

>>16571347
>A universal flight path of every flying object relayed to all aircrafts in the vicinity
A system called TCAS already does this. Airliners have it. However, small and military planes are not guaranteed to have it which is retarded in an age where you can buy something like a Starlink antenna for a few hundred bux. But there is something even more basic: Aircraft should never cross the glide path to an active runway.

Anonymous No. 16571631

>mining and agriculture will be the two biggest industries on mars for 100+ years
we were born to early to witness the mechanicus

Anonymous No. 16571639

>>16571631
Foundary will be bigger once mining becomes commododized. Processed metals and ore processing will create the future of mankind. Be it for starship production or for computer chip fabs on Mars or robots or vehicles

Anonymous No. 16571641

>agriculture
>on MARS
>metal processing
>on MARS
/sfg/ is retarded

Anonymous No. 16571648

>>16571641
we gaan

Anonymous No. 16571649

the biggest martian industry will be streaming content creators

Anonymous No. 16571653

>>16571641
well where would (You) do it?

Anonymous No. 16571655

>>16571649
Janitors cleaning solar panels

Anonymous No. 16571657

>>16571653
Agriculture on earth, metals from asteroids? Earth has a free life support system and asteroids have valuable metals and volatiles with no gravity well to keep them trapped.

Anonymous No. 16571659

>>16571653
on earth obviously. Just kill all the inhabitants and turn it into a farm world. Doing anything else would be a waste of resources, time and manpower.

Anonymous No. 16571661

>>16570990
>My straw man totally isn't obvious
>My fallacious argument isn't obvious
Not them but you have a very obvious mental disorder.

Anonymous No. 16571667

>>16571657
>martians buying food from earth
lmfao food security is the #1 priority of any nation. no food = no people. they WILL go to war to secure food sources. mars WILL produce 100% of its own food.

Anonymous No. 16571668

>>16571657
>Agriculture on earth
The same earth that indians trod and shit on? That's disgusting.

Anonymous No. 16571677

>>16571667
Yeah sure, grow food where the people are. He said it would be one of the biggest industries and I interpreted that as agriculture on mars somehow being desirable beyond supporting something else. Personally I think mars has too much of a gravity well compared to the moon and asteroids, and it would be more practical to colonize those first since they could export precious metals or volatiles to LEO to have more of an economic case.

Anonymous No. 16571686

>>16571621
Below 1000 feet (as in this crash), TCAS will give a traffic advisory (TA) warning of potential collision, but won't give a resolution advisory (RA).
There's no technical reason for this, it's simply a choice of risks -- enabling RAs at low altitudes risks a pilot blindly obeying a "descend" RA into a building/antenna, while disabling it risks a pilot taking no action while waiting in confusion for an RA that never comes.
In both cases, the pilot is in the wrong -- the first pilot has the responsibility to decide whether a resolution is safe, and substitute a different resolution if necessary, and the second pilot should already be identifying the other aircraft once they get a TA, and has the responsibility to avoid a collision regardless of whether they get an RA or not. But pilots will make those errors eventually, and it's just a question of which will result in more crashes.

Anonymous No. 16571696

>>16571686
Ultimately there is no way for ATC to confirm when a pilot says they "have the runway in sight" or "have the other plane in sight"
because all the hardware involved is archaic

Anonymous No. 16571700

replace pilots with AI

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Anonymous No. 16571737

>>16571448
I'm still sore about Stevie Ray Vaughn

Anonymous No. 16571740

seems like there is a pretty big purge going on in the government
this is going to get entertaining
I wonder how long it will take to hit NASA

Anonymous No. 16571742

>Relativity is now worth ~$100 million, down from over $4 billion
zuck should buy it

Anonymous No. 16571758

>>16571737
>SRV
>Lynyrd Skynyrd
>Randy Rhoads
Planes suck.

Anonymous No. 16571761

>>16571514
It's like a gantt chart but for one event at a time

Anonymous No. 16571769

>>16571740
It won't hit NASA, but the EOs targeting government contracting are reaching all the people NASA pays to do missions. A lot of people are finding out their contractually-mandated busywork is going away. I hope the IT security mandates get reviewed too.

Anonymous No. 16571778

>>16570964
Why didn't Biden order this months ago so that they wouldn't have had to be stranded in space for nearly a year?

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>>16571778

Anonymous No. 16571841

/sfg/ has perished

Anonymous No. 16571843

>>16571841
>general gets invaded by bots
>regular posters leave
>bots shut down
>dead general
more common than you'd think.

Anonymous No. 16571847

>>16571841
W E E K E N D

Anonymous No. 16571850

>>16571843
>/sfg/ returns to its normal activity level when nothing newsworthy is happening

Starship launches really spoiled anons

Anonymous No. 16571853

>>16571847
you mean to tell me that most esefgee regulars are out there partying and drinking right now?

Anonymous No. 16571857

>>16571591
VC is retarded and Bezos has infinite funds, valuation would be higher than you think.

Anonymous No. 16571858

>>16571853
and talking to women. which begs the question, why aren't you?

Anonymous No. 16571860

Latest rumor is that the new senior human spaceflight advisor at NASA is michael altenhofen; SpaceX's Director of Human Spaceflight Sales and Products

https://www.glexsummit.com/explorers/michael-altenhofen

Anonymous No. 16571861

>>16571860
>source?
>"I made it up"

Anonymous No. 16571862

>>16571631
>agriculture
If you're limited on space, energy, and water, plants are not the most efficient way to make basic food molecules. They're all just hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen. With the right chemical reactors, your Martians will technically be nuclear powered

Anonymous No. 16571864

>>16571657
>asteroids
Stupid new faggot nigger do we really need to have this conversation every week?

Anonymous No. 16571865

>>16571861
My source is at NASA
but wait and see

Anonymous No. 16571866

>>16571677
>economic case
Mars will be colonized for half a millennia before asteroid mining is viable.

Anonymous No. 16571867

drop tha colony already

Anonymous No. 16571868

>>16571858
because whenever I talk to them about spreading the light of consciousness throughout the cosmos they look at me weird and leave

Anonymous No. 16571875

>>16571868
I've been thinking lately about the inevitable woman shortage on Mars. What the hell do we do about that?

Anonymous No. 16571876

>>16571875
are you saying... Mars Needs Women?!

Anonymous No. 16571878

>>16571875
we're going to have full-time ai-powered e-gfs that surpass real ones in every way within 2 years, why fret about it?

Anonymous No. 16571880

ERRM, where is that New Space film that was supposedly going to drop today? I need something to watch on this Friday night, stat.

Anonymous No. 16571893

>>16571875
I saw them grow a sheep in a bag, can't they do that with people? Just ship in the eggs from earth

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Anonymous No. 16571909

>>16571607
>Air Force One will eventually be a SpaceX vehicle, but not this decade.
Air Force One will be a Boom Overture; Starship will be Space Force One, naturally.

Anonymous No. 16571923

>>16571909
You suck billionaire cock. You suck big black veiny hairy cock.

Anonymous No. 16571934

>>16571923
>You suck billionaire cock
as long as that gets us to mars...

Anonymous No. 16571954

>>16571607
>Air Force One will eventually be a SpaceX vehicle
space force one will be.

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Anonymous No. 16571957

>>16571956
I prefer the H1 rocket

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>>16571957
I only have h3 and h2a I'm afraid

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Anonymous No. 16571970

>>16571383
I HATE NUCLEAR MTVS SO MUCH

Anonymous No. 16571974

>>16571970
Copernicus was beautiful, you shut your whore mouth.

Anonymous No. 16571977

>>16571974
You’re so dumb it’s unreal

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Anonymous No. 16571978

>>16571974
debunked by snopes

Anonymous No. 16571982

>>16571456
Another Trump W

Anonymous No. 16571986

>>16571866
A bit late, but why? Think of all the reasons to colonize space.

>Materials for orbital structures to avoid launch cost
>Perpetual sunlight for solar farms
>Elements rare in earths crust
>Microgravity

Mars is similar enough to earth that I don't see what benefit it would give over just living on earth itself with the free life support. I challenge anyone to give compelling reasons to colonize mars at a large scale over doing things on earth or smaller airless bodies.

Anonymous No. 16572000

>>16571986
Mars colonization/industrialization has a clear path. It is possible to do as soon as we have a vehicle, and full self sufficiency is possible.
>Materials for orbital structures to avoid launch cost
Launch costs are not so high that operating in space is cheaper. Consider everything Earth has: labor, supply chain, full industrial stack, etc. Getting goods to space is the cost of the commodity plus launch. Making goods in space removes the launch cost, but how much more expensive is it? Also, is all your space infrastructure in one place, or does everything need to move around? dV is still a constraint.
>Perpetual sunlight for solar farms
Please don't tell me you're talking about beaming power to Earth.
>Elements rare in earths crust
Asteroid 16 Psyche is 4.5 billion times the mass of all metal mined by all humanity ever. This basically isn't relevant right now. Also, digging a deeper hole will always be cheaper. The Earth's crust has like 10x more mass than the entire asteroid belt including Ceres.
>Microgravity
If this was valuable for manufacturing we would know for sure by now. Companies have been working with the ISS for decades.
> I challenge anyone to give compelling reasons to colonize mars at a large scale over doing things on earth
Because I don't want to be on Earth.
>or smaller airless bodies
Because they are worse in every possible way

Anonymous No. 16572001

>>16572000
I fucked up my math. Asteroid 16 Psyche is 4.5 MILLION times the mass of all metal mined by all humanity ever. The point stands.

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Anonymous No. 16572002

Almost thought I got a surprise package from NASA for some reason.

Anonymous No. 16572006

>>16571860
Senior human spaceflight advisor isn't even a position at NASA

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Anonymous No. 16572007

>>16570964
>trump and musk are going to rescue the astronauts

so sorry to hear mang, rizzle in pizzle ass 'fro nuts.

Anonymous No. 16572015

>>16572000
>Asteroid 16 Psyche is 4.5 MILLION times the mass of all metal mined by all humanity ever
>Earth's crust has like 10x more mass than the entire asteroid belt including Ceres
Sobering. Just did the math, we have mined 0.0000000000006% of the Earth. We're a ways off from a Dyson swarm it seems.

Anonymous No. 16572017

>>16571986
There is no real good reason rn. We can easily go to the moon, strip mine it, build rotating space habitats, have a multi-trillion dollar space industry, and then go colonize mars in the same time it would take to pool all our resources into colonizing mars instead. Notice how every space startup company that isn't spacex is focused on orbital or lunar operations, and barely anyone is focused on Mars. That's because it's a waste of resources currently. But this board sucks musk off too hard to realize he only says the Mars shit because it makes headlines and he is severely mentally handicapped.

Anonymous No. 16572018

>>16571909
I really hope Overture works out. I see alot of the same bullshit naysaying comments from internet cretins that boomers were making about SpaceX fifteen years ago. The airliner industry is due for a major shakeup, as seen by Boeing's incompetence and general industry refusal to innovate. There is a market for supersonic jets as evidenced by the fact that there is a thriving economy catering to business class travelers.

Anonymous No. 16572019

>>16571970
A thousand second specific impulse is a clear advantage over chemical.

Anonymous No. 16572024

>>16572019
>clear
Eh?

Anonymous No. 16572025

>>16572007
you have to be over 18 to post on this website

Anonymous No. 16572027

>>16571909
I still have doubts in boom's future. Fuel prices will only get higher, so even with the greater areas of operation with quieter sonic booms I still don't see it being profitable

Anonymous No. 16572034

>>16572027
It will probably go lower in the nearish term due to Trump eliminating roadblocks to new drilling projects. I think as long as people are willing to spend several thousand dollars on business class seats, they'll be willing to spend several thousand dollars on a supersonic flight.

Anonymous No. 16572072

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885572228709851366

Anonymous No. 16572076

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885508628582474040

Anonymous No. 16572082

>>16572076
Needed infrastructure for offshore Starship launch would be incredible

Anonymous No. 16572086

>>16571198
Link to vid?
I can't get over how whimsical this timeline is

Anonymous No. 16572090

>>16572086
The question was about the recent Blackhawk crash site, not Starship.

Anonymous No. 16572091

>>16571847
It's been like this for weeks now

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Anonymous No. 16572094

>>16572072
2025... I am remembered

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Anonymous No. 16572101

>>16572094
yyeeeaahh!!!!

Anonymous No. 16572112

>>16572019
It's not that simple, because every reasonable nuclear thermal engine thus-far proposed will absolutely decimate your mass ratio.

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Anonymous No. 16572119

wish expanse

Anonymous No. 16572120

So tired of people rejecting the linear no threshhold model. The real death toll from the Chernobyl nuclear disaster is about 16 000.

Anonymous No. 16572121

>>16572120
>So tired of people rejecting the linear no threshhold model.
The LNT model is moronic, it assumes the human body has no capacity to recover from small amounts of damage. As if each time you burn yourself on a hot pan while cooking you come one step closer towards dying of third degree burns, when in reality you easily heal from small injuries and there is no cumulative damage.

>The real death toll from the Chernobyl nuclear disaster is about 16 000.
Source: It came to me in a dream!

Anonymous No. 16572122

>>16572101
what game is this from?

Anonymous No. 16572124

>>16572121
Radiation fucks up the dna in a particular cell. Each time this happens there is a small chance this cell now becomes a cancer cell. The more radiation the the more often cells get their dna fucked up. The less radiation the less mutant cells. There is no mechanism to create a threshold here.

Anonymous No. 16572125

>>16572122
the game where the schizo forgot his meds

Anonymous No. 16572130

>>16572124
>>Radiation fucks up the dna in a particular cell.
So does getting burned on a stove. Human bodies have numerous mechanisms to clean up damaged cells. Cancer only manifests as a noticable affliction if the body's ability to clean up the damage is overwhelmed (the "threshold") or if you get extremely unlucky and for some reason that cell is simply missed before it's too late (not linear.)

Anonymous No. 16572131

>>16571909
The entire point of using a 747 instead of a normal twin engine widebody is that it's bigger
Engine redunancy is all well and good but if you can't at least fit as many staff and ECM kit in the new one they'll just beat the engineers until they handmake a new 747 centuries after the production line rots away

Anonymous No. 16572134

>>16572125
you talking about yourself? what is it from?

Anonymous No. 16572137

>>16572131
Staff are bloat, they can telecommute with starlink or something. You can pack a whole lot of modern ECM into a very small package these days, a 747 is no longer necessary for that.

I think the real issues are endurance and ETOPS certification.

Anonymous No. 16572139

>>16572134
It's not from a game, it's an incoherent image made by some manner of schizophrenic. Why do you think it's from a game? Are you trolling?

Anonymous No. 16572151

>>16570964
Make Astronomy Great Again

Anonymous No. 16572154

>>16572151
Astronomy has never been great and will never be great. The famous astronomers they teach you about in school all funded their activities by selling astrological fortune telling services to rich people. That was their only commercially valuable "skill", because astronomy isn't actually good for anything

Anonymous No. 16572157

>>16571875
Neuralink solves the consent problem

Anonymous No. 16572159

>>16572137
Having staff on AF1 is critical for security
transmissions can be used to track the craft as well as be compromised
AF1 is a mobile command post just as much as it is a presidential limo

Anonymous No. 16572163

>>16572159
Think about what you're saying.
>transmissions can be used to track the craft as well as be compromised
>AF1 is a mobile command post just as much as it is a presidential limo
It cannot simultaneously be radio silent and be a mobile command post.

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>>16572154
>astronomy isn't actually good for anything
>calendars aren't necessary for advanced civilization
Yeah man we'll gather our armies together on the first day of spring
-- when exactly is that?
I dunno lol

Anonymous No. 16572170

>>16572169
We had calendars sufficiently figured out two thousand years ago. The Julian calendar is good enough, the Gregorian is just a minor tweak to that. And for any of that kind of work you don't even need telescopes. The most useful astronomy has ever been was during the age of navigation, but that has long passed and been surpassed. And again, none of that work even needed telescopes.

Anonymous No. 16572172

>>16572139
oh, that makes sense then.

Anonymous No. 16572173

>>16572101
what the actual fuck

Anonymous No. 16572179

>>16572154
>astronomy isn’t good for anything
>astronomers can predict the future and will charge rich people a mint for this info

Anonymous No. 16572184

>>16572163
yes it can
by picking and choosing where and when it transmits
which is aided a lot when most of the work can be onboard

Anonymous No. 16572197

>>16572151
Starship will, spam those space telescopes

Anonymous No. 16572201

>>16572154
>massive universe full of things that can collide with you
>just don't look lmao
sfg_is_retarded.webm

Anonymous No. 16572202

>>16572154
Astroonomers go home, this is a space flight thread.

Anonymous No. 16572205

>>16572017
Every part of this post is wrong.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16572219

this is an intended /pol/ thread and almost only /pol/tard posts.
this isnt a science board anymore, this has become a pseudo-science neo-liberal far-right extremist echo chamber.
the mods on /sci/ try to act like they are just passive, but will ban you without hesitation, when you try to fight this with fact checks threads and a real discussion.

the aim of this is to destabilize democracy, science and social consensus on topics by spreading lies, misrepresentations, manipulations, trivializations, distractions and insinuations.
this process can be traced back to super-rich indiviuals and powerful interest groups from the political and economic segments worldwide, either through propaganda media, money or direct influence on social platforms.
this is about ensuring the dominance of global capital and safeguarding existing power structures by conveying that prejudices and emotions represent reliable opinions and thus a united attitude of the population should be shared.
they simply know their reign would fall so they decided to kill democracy in the entire world.

dont let this bullshit mislead you, anon, only personal exchange with other people in real life can provide honest answers difficult or complex topics.
if you are undecided about what is right or wrong on a certain topic, just wait and see how things will turn out on it.
the sincere one will not change their explanations and opinions but the liars will be forced to adapt their fairy tales.
you will always recognize them by that.

4chan is officially dead.

Anonymous No. 16572223

>>16572219
I'm a bit flattered that powerful interest groups give a shit about /sfg/.

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Anonymous No. 16572232

>>16572130
bigot

Anonymous No. 16572233

>>16572201
to be fair, he does make a good point that it would be fun if we were instead happily surprised that an indian city gets deleted by an asteroid in 2032 than having to wait long and gruelling like an overdue videogame release.

Anonymous No. 16572234

>>16572219
>waaaah I split the thread but anons went to the drumpf one instead of mine
Get over it anon, ffs

Anonymous No. 16572240

>>16572234
i share in the sentiment that the weird obsessive fanboyism around trump is extremely gay but i'm not gonna write a paragraph complaining about it it.
i hope the next OP will be less gay and salivatory than this one, should be an illustration of india getting hit by an impactor.

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Anonymous No. 16572241

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
DRRRUUUUMMMPHHHH!!

Anonymous No. 16572242

>>16572219
>talking about /sci/
Not reading all that, lurk more. Faggot :)

Anonymous No. 16572243

>>16572241
Little more to the left please

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>>16572219
>neo-liberal far-right

Anonymous No. 16572248

>>16572241
Little more to the subcontinent please

Anonymous No. 16572250

when are we going to see manned missions undergo exponential growth like launches have? so far the manned ones seem kind of linear in growth. i thought we were supposed to see an explosion in the number of manned missions by now.

Anonymous No. 16572251

>>16572250
blame nasa for ditching 7 seats dragon
basically doubled the per seat price

Anonymous No. 16572254

>>16572250
SpaceX didn't want to invest into that.

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Anonymous No. 16572266

https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/1885707775017398321

Anonymous No. 16572269

>>16572219
didn't read
fuck off

Anonymous No. 16572273

>>16572266
If this is true then it's very bad for starship program.

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Anonymous No. 16572274

>>16572246
I fucking love freebase cocaine. Seriously hope Elon starts promoting it.

Anonymous No. 16572275

>>16572273
not really

Anonymous No. 16572276

>>16572266
>technicians get told by management to skip checks
>management get a promotion
spacex is in serious trouble

Anonymous No. 16572279

>>16572275
If that was too tight of a schedule for them then they are not launching shit this year, was it 25 times this year lol
QA check problems seem to be haunting SpaceX since last year.

Anonymous No. 16572280

>>16572266
SpaceX is throwing them under the bus even though they know this isn't the reason it exploded.

Anonymous No. 16572283

>>16572266
is this corroborated by the war criminal?

Anonymous No. 16572286

>>16572279
wrong, they will just learn from this and go on like they always do
a RUD due to some failed check vs a RUD due to going beyond some material limits is irrelevant if you test and iterate rapidly
in this case they just need to change some QA procedures and/or vet the people checking stuff more thoroughly
doesn't change the larger trajectory in any way, shape or form

Anonymous No. 16572287

>>16572280
bad management will often look for a scapegoat to sacrifice instead of fixing the issue

Anonymous No. 16572290

>>16572273
the concern troll

Anonymous No. 16572293

>>16571641
Mars yam, have you ever had a Mars salad? Have you ever had a Mars cheesy baked potato that blew your socks off?

Anonymous No. 16572295

>>16572219
Cool.

Anonymous No. 16572298

>>16572293
Yeah but the cheese isn't even real. It's made from bioengineered algae.

Anonymous No. 16572300

>>16572286
rapid iteration is pointless if they don't have enough time to implement iterations

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Anonymous No. 16572306

>>16572266
Forgot to check yo staging

Anonymous No. 16572310

>>16572305
whats the gun for? killing earthers?

Anonymous No. 16572312

>>16572151
The only great astronomers were great mathematicians and great men.

Modern astronomers are birdwatchers with telescopes, who waste other people's money on gay projects to image things no one cares about and impede the technological and economic advancement that made modern astronomy possible.

Anonymous No. 16572314

>>16572310
That's what all guns are for.

Anonymous No. 16572315

>>16572169
Retard. We don't need big gay radio telescope #54673 to measure the length of the year.

Anonymous No. 16572316

>>16572250
First we need the hardware that enables getting to Mars and staying there.

Do your own flyby cuck missions if you must but I'm glad that no one else wants to.

Anonymous No. 16572317

>>16572287
Yes scapegoat is the word I was looking for

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Anonymous No. 16572318

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOlpKN7ZOTo
>"NEW SPACE" Frontier Film

the new space documentary is out (trigger warning: features Trump and Musk)

Anonymous No. 16572320

>>16572232
y u mad tho

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Anonymous No. 16572321

>>16572318

Anonymous No. 16572328

>>16572318
I saw Obama

Anonymous No. 16572330

>>16572320
Why the linear no threshold model is true is obvious

Anonymous No. 16572332

>>16572330
It obviously isn't true, nobody except political activists take it seriously.

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Anonymous No. 16572334

>>16572094
omg

Anonymous No. 16572335

>>16572328
*obongo

Anonymous No. 16572342

Where can I see if SpaceX ever sued any employees?

Anonymous No. 16572345

>>16572334
>eager is an ancient martian
checks out

Anonymous No. 16572347

>>16572342
just use a chatbot with search like grok or chatgpt (they just added it) or perplexity

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>>16572342
grok

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>>16572342
chatgpt with reasonin and search (the free version)

Anonymous No. 16572352

>>16572342
why would they? where did you hear that?

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Anonymous No. 16572353

>>16572342
perplexity
seems to be no, they haven't directly sued their employees
on the other hand I'm pretty sure Tesla has multiple different times due to data breaches and stuff like that (stealing FSD code I think)

Anonymous No. 16572354

>>16572347
>>16572349
>>16572350
Thanks. So I guess they literally never sued one of their employees?

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Anonymous No. 16572364

>>16572312
>waste other people's money
a minuscule percentage of a penny out of every dollar in taxes. Don't tell me you think it's better off spent on feeding the poor...
>gay projects to image things no one cares about
fuck you, dumb nigger
it is mankind's imperative to explore, catalogue and conquer the universe. Astronomers are one part of this effort and sure as hell matter more than anyone on this faggot site. Earth based astronomy is becoming a dead end though, I will concede on that.
It is my greatest hope than in a hundred years /sfg/ will talk about people living in the solar system with the same kind of contempt we currently have for earthers.

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>>16570964
THE TOWER IS COLLAPSING... ITS OVER STARSHIP BROS

Anonymous No. 16572404

Do they ever stop working on OLM between launches, it's not looking very reusable

Anonymous No. 16572407

My libtard sister said SpaceX was stupid because they got sued by a card game.

Anonymous No. 16572415

>>16572407
You can just hit her and she'll stop making that noise around you.

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Anonymous No. 16572417

Are we going to build a statue of Mars Ultor in the Martian city?

Anonymous No. 16572426

>>16572266
>fired if you rush to meet schedule
>fired if you miss schedule
what do you do in this situation?

Anonymous No. 16572427

>>16572417
mars the avenger

Anonymous No. 16572429

>>16572426
get fired and replaced with someone more competent

Anonymous No. 16572431

>>16572426
Continue the work after launch, expendable welders

Anonymous No. 16572432

>>16572426
Go work at any other rocket company and live a more normal life

Anonymous No. 16572435

>>16572318
only 90 seconds in and this shit is so generic im cringing

Anonymous No. 16572437

>>16572318
watching later. trailer looked pretty good

Anonymous No. 16572439

>>16572435
It was pretty boring

Anonymous No. 16572452

>before new space there were only two ways to make money in space: telecommunications or earth observation satellites
uh, what are the new ways? because those are still the only two ways.

Anonymous No. 16572456

>>16572266
Yeah. Elon's brain is cooked from ketamine. It was nice dreaming with you all, but it's over. Don't do drugs.

Anonymous No. 16572458

>>16572452
Scamming investors

Anonymous No. 16572461

>>16572275
>>16572290
are you guys completely brain dead? this is not good, and just one more thing in a continuing pattern of things that are not good.

Anonymous No. 16572464

>>16572439
that guys has a damn museum in his office

Anonymous No. 16572467

>>16572435
>>16572439
You now remember that only a tiny fraction of people even know that the Shuttle stopped flying, and the rest of the audience is who space documentaries are for.

Anonymous No. 16572470

>>16572266
inb4 they put suicide nets around the star factory.

Anonymous No. 16572473

its got lots of nice footage. nice recap of early spacex

Anonymous No. 16572479

>>16572461
you are retarded

Anonymous No. 16572485

>>16572467
>Shuttle stopped flying
pretty crazy, this happened in 2011, basically 14 years ago, yet people still haven't got the memo. almost like nobody gives a shit about space.

Anonymous No. 16572487

>>16572479
nice argument faggot
the rocket blowing up is only good if they learn from it. if they're being pushed so hard they're just burning through time, hardware, and money with absolutely nothing to show for it then it is not good for the starship program.
>it makes me concerned so you're concern trolling
get a grip and look at reality

Anonymous No. 16572494

>>16572487
>if they're being pushed so hard they're just burning through time, hardware, and money with absolutely nothing to show for it then it is not good for the starship program.
that's cool fanfiction but this isn't happening anywhere outside of your head.
starship program is doing just fine.
i swear you can point to literally any ambitious development project like this and find instances in time where there was a fuckup and anyone who had any interest in it started dooming like coked up chimpanzees.

it's fine, calm your tits, nigger.

Anonymous No. 16572495

>>16572487
but they are learning every flight
you are retarded

Anonymous No. 16572499

>>16572494
>>16572495
This >>16572266 does not bode well and you're coping or delusional if you insist otherwise

Anonymous No. 16572504

>>16572499
can you explain in your own terms how you think it "does not bode well"
do you think this is an exceptional thing that happens rarely at spacex?
if you go into panic mode every time some engineers get fired at spacex you should have been doing that 24/7 since the very inception of the company.

Anonymous No. 16572509

>satellite servicing
>asteroid mining
>data centers
>space stations
so these are the business sectors of space that the video thinks are next
hmmmmm

Anonymous No. 16572510

Heil Elon

Anonymous No. 16572512

>>16572509
the dude that made the documentary has a series where he interviews startup founders, a bunch of them in the space sector

Anonymous No. 16572514

>>16572504
>intentionally skipped checks
>to meet schedule
>were fired
The conditions the engineers were given were impossible, and then they were punished for not meeting the impossible conditions. The goals of management separating from the realities of engineering was the main problem with, I'm going to say it, the shuttle.
>>16572509
>asteroid mining
I want to go on a killing spree

Anonymous No. 16572515

>>16572512
>varda which isnt a proven business model
>some girl trying to make super bacteria to terraform mars
>firefly which is going out of business
hmmmm

Anonymous No. 16572517

>>16572509
Can someone explain data center in space, others I can understand, but no data centers.

Anonymous No. 16572523

>>16572514
>The conditions the engineers were given were impossible, and then they were punished for not meeting the impossible conditions. The goals of management separating from the realities of engineering was the main problem with, I'm going to say it, the shuttle.
like what happened with Starlink and Raptor production?
please
people that were too slow and not up to the task were fired, people that were up to it were promoted or hired and things started going forward at a good pace again
and by the sounds of it this thing was pretty minor compared to what was going on with starlink and raptor

Anonymous No. 16572524

>>16572517
same reason why there are so many trannies popping up in the community but so few women...lotta IT fags are also spaceflight fans

Anonymous No. 16572525

>>16572517
its free real-estate

Anonymous No. 16572527

>>16572525
What do you do about heat and radiation?

Anonymous No. 16572528

>>16572517
getting data to and from space is nearly free, that's probably where the idea comes from. why anyone spent more than 20 minutes on the idea is another story.

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Anonymous No. 16572529

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBmoJZxs_I8
>SpaceX Starbase Texas Launch Tower 2 Pad B Concrete Work and Launch Complex Views 4K

Anonymous No. 16572530

>>16572485
That's what makes them worthless e*rthers, anon.

Anonymous No. 16572532

>>16572527
deal with it

Anonymous No. 16572533

>>16572514
>intentionally skipped checks
>because they didn't manage to meet the schedule otherwise
>were fired because this caused a problem
right, so like has happened hundreds of times at spacex, and with starlink as well.
>The goals of management separating from the realities of engineering
rather that a mistake in engineering was made and has been learned from, as has happened hundreds of times at spacex.

you want to doom, that's fine, but you need to stop trying to pretend that this is the default opinion that rational people choose.

Anonymous No. 16572534

>>16572266
>Not accurate
- Elon Musk

You retards gotta stop automatically believing people with "insider" knowledge

Anonymous No. 16572537

>>16572353
I really do think it was the federal hiring lawsuit that made elon go all-in

Anonymous No. 16572540

>>16572527
protect
reject and
eject

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Anonymous No. 16572541

>>16572534
>>16572266
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885778796097282442

Anonymous No. 16572543

GROK TUAH!

Anonymous No. 16572546

That's what you get for trusting space news from someone other than berger

Anonymous No. 16572548

>>16572546
And Davenport and Sheetz and Foust.

Anonymous No. 16572552

I suppose it’s an odd question but I am currently reading a book that states that one-third of all food consumed worldwide is fermented, and that fermentation as a process for human consumption, whether intentional or not, constitutes one of the worlds largest industries.
Everyone always talks about getting starters going utilizing the natural “yeast in the air,” but would that really be able to work in a [presumably] hyper-clean and controlled environment that will exist on future moon and mars settlements?

Anonymous No. 16572553

ESEFGEE LIED TO ME!

Anonymous No. 16572554

>>16572553
About what

Anonymous No. 16572557

>>16572552
Simply aerosolize live yeast cultures and spread them around the closed environment.

Anonymous No. 16572561

>>16572552
isn’t it important for babies to be exposed to lots of natural yeasts and bacteria here on earth? I wonder if that would be a problem in a hyper sterile colony filled with pasteurized MRE meals and stale recycled air

Anonymous No. 16572562

>>16572554
liquid fluorine is not dangerous, and you can absolutely drink it.

Anonymous No. 16572567

>>16572562
Well its a good thing you caught that lie anon, it would kill you if you drank that. Whoever went around saying that its safe to drink should not be trusted.

Anonymous No. 16572568

>>16572534
Sudoer doesn't even have insider knowledge, he just steals shit from other people.

Anonymous No. 16572569

>>16572561
if you're talking gut bacteria they get most of that from their mothers.

Anonymous No. 16572570

>>16572568
which is why I put it in quotations

Anonymous No. 16572573

>>16572251
and the lunar dragon

Anonymous No. 16572575

space data centers getting dropped on the faa

Anonymous No. 16572584

>>16572546
Berger has Musk derangement syndrome now. So do Sheets and Foust. Daveport seems more curtailed though he seems to promote Bezos a lot early on when they had no achievements.

Anonymous No. 16572586

>>16572584
Leave. Pronto.

Anonymous No. 16572588

>>16572586
Sorry but this isn't reddit

Anonymous No. 16572591

>>16572586
Anon can stay, but you can see yourself out.

Anonymous No. 16572596

>>16572575
Every starlink is a space data center.

Anonymous No. 16572598

>>16572588
>>16572591
just because a well respected journo doesn't agree with you once doesn't make him EDS. Fucking braindead tourists infesting MY /sfg/
Trump is the best thing to happen to space and the worst thing to happen to this general.

Anonymous No. 16572600

>>16572584
>Berger has Musk derangement syndrome now
source?

Anonymous No. 16572605

>>16572541
Of course he would say that
This just makes it more likely

Anonymous No. 16572606

>>16572600
>>16572598
Read his 2nd book. Last chapter. Read his latest article.

Berger has EDS and its showing more and more.

Anonymous No. 16572608

>>16572600
He was seething about the "go get those astronauts" order from Trump

Anonymous No. 16572612

>>16572600
the voices told him

Anonymous No. 16572616

>>16572608
He should seethe about BS theater.

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Anonymous No. 16572617

Berger is plotting to assassinate Musk? wow

Anonymous No. 16572618

why dont investors invest in foreign space startups? whats korea got cooking?

Anonymous No. 16572619

>>16572598
have you been reading his articles lately?

Anonymous No. 16572624

>>16572608
It wasn't even an order, it was just a political statement. "You go do that!"

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Anonymous No. 16572629

Mars has a lot less surface area than I thought

Anonymous No. 16572631

>>16572629
cute and funny planet

Anonymous No. 16572632

>>16572629
same landmass as earth

Anonymous No. 16572633

>>16572629
Isn't it about the size of Earth's above-water land? I seem to recall someone wrapping just the continents around a Mars globe and it fit pretty perfectly. Maybe it was the moon, idk.

Anonymous No. 16572634

>>16572633
the moon has a similar size as asia or eurasia

Anonymous No. 16572637

>>16572629
No oceans wasting space.

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Anonymous No. 16572638

>>16572629
well dwellers... i d-don't feel so good

Anonymous No. 16572639

>>16572638
thats enough for maybe 100 billion at most. we need more solar systems.

Anonymous No. 16572641

>>16572639
Now imagine how many trillions or quadrillions that could be if we used o'neill cylinders instead

Anonymous No. 16572642

>>16572639
We should add a couple extra planets to this one, just for fun.
>inb4 muh resonance
Get a new one

Anonymous No. 16572644

>>16572639
I’m going to start a tobacco farm on proxima centauri b

Anonymous No. 16572647

>>16572638
Eris is mine. She's cute.

Anonymous No. 16572651

>>16572617
very organic

Anonymous No. 16572652

>>16572647
You can have her, as long as you don't lay a finger on my dear Dysnomia <3

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Anonymous No. 16572653

we need an alternative un-biased news source

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Anonymous No. 16572655

can't see shit, captain

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woosh

fuck you clouds

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>>16572655
Perfect flight conditions.

Anonymous No. 16572666

>>16572598
Your /sfg/? please post proof of ownership

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Anonymous No. 16572669

stuck it

Remember when this was amazing?

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>>16572669
Anything becomes routine after the 200th time.

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>>16572672
The further it is from the knife's edge of success or failure, the less dramatic it looks.

Anonymous No. 16572683

>>16572660
comical really. like one of those long gags

Anonymous No. 16572685

>>16572552
>[presumably] hyper-clean and controlled environment
If the ISS is anything to go by, it will be anything but.

Anonymous No. 16572686

>>16572606
> 2nd book. Last chapter
And? Berger is right. I care about the dream of Mars, and I'll support Musk as long as he does too. It is less than obvious that Mars is the first thing on his mind right now.

Anonymous No. 16572688

>>16572660
Bird is like sqwaww fuck

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Anonymous No. 16572689

>>16571377
that small medical transport plane crash in Philly

Anonymous No. 16572690

>>16572686
Barrier to Mars is the government. You dont have a functioning brain.

Anonymous No. 16572697

>>16572690
The British and German government is the barrier to Mars? Go look at where he's been spending time.

Anonymous No. 16572698

>>16572606
>>16572686
just so this thread doesn't turn into argument via apophasis, here's the passage i imagine both of these anons are arguing over:
>Just as great individuals have great strengths, however, they have great weaknesses. Some of these failings have been on display in his running of Twitter/X: the vanity, the vindictiveness, and the double-talk about freedom of speech while curbing views he does not like. Social media is not rocket science, and Musk does not seem to be very good at running a company that does it. Moreover, Musk’s purchase of Twitter has deepened his addiction to the service and, for complicated reasons, pushed him further from a Libertarian outlook into far-right conservatism and conspiracy theory mongering. Musk is absolutely entitled to his political opinions, but he is not required to share them or let them guide his decision-making at Twitter. He has alienated a lot of people.

Anonymous No. 16572699

>>16572686
Musk is a grifter and you're retarded, Patel.

Anonymous No. 16572701

>>16572685
Great point actually. Imagine making kombucha on Mir, that shit would be fermented in less than 24 hours [math]\unicode{x1F602}[/math]

Anonymous No. 16572702

>>16572689
lmao, the light was so intense from the explosion all the lights with photoresistors turned off

Anonymous No. 16572704

>>16572698
This reads like a reddlt post written by a midwit using more words than necessary to sound important while loading up on the logical fallacies.

Anonymous No. 16572705

>>16572697
You need Europe to be stabalized. Unstable Europe leads to war, which threatens the entire earth.

Anonymous No. 16572706

>>16572702
>lmao
settle down Beavis

Anonymous No. 16572707

>>16572685
Why are woman allowed to have long hair in space? Shit gets everywhere and into everything.

Anonymous No. 16572708

>>16572705
unstable europe leads to world war which leads to rapid advances in aerospace technology and the highest standard of living in all history in the united states

Anonymous No. 16572709

>>16572698
>double-talk about freedom of speech while curbing views he does not like
hits hard after he genocided the groypers
>He has alienated a lot of people.
We've seen space programs cancelled by the next president. He has basically guaranteed that Mars will be a private endeavor now.
>>16572705
This is really reaching

Anonymous No. 16572712

>>16572704
The ones with Musk derangement syndrome all take the status quo leftist propaganda to be the true statement of reality

>>16572708
>>16572709
No, its what the reality is. Europe is near the brink of war. Instead of prioritizing realpolitik, they're prioritizing ideological one. This leads to nonsense escalation of war for no reason other than a vapid ideology. And you know, if I think about it bit more, its not even ideological, its just purely partisanship.

Anonymous No. 16572714

>>16572705
Europe is long overdue for a purge.
The west is better off just letting it happen and staying out of it. The worst mistake in modern history was getting involved in WW1 and WW2.

The US would already be on mars and you'd be 90% white and speaking German.

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Anonymous No. 16572716

>>16572707
Cuter that way

Anonymous No. 16572718

>>16572712
Ignoring the subject matter completely: the writing is sloppy, the logic is incoherent, and the grammar is atrocious. Whoever wrote that is not an intelligent person.

Anonymous No. 16572720

>>16572714
The problem of a purge in Europe isnt European purge, its America being involved. The threat from the government's insane appetite for war is the real threat to Mars

Anonymous No. 16572722

>>16572718
Berger wrote it

Anonymous No. 16572723

>>16571086
glass and steel

Anonymous No. 16572728

>>16572698
So a run of the mill shitlib lmao

Anonymous No. 16572745

Is it not insane to anyone else that jared fucking isaacman will be the NASA admin?! Feels like I’m living in a dream still

Anonymous No. 16572748

>>16572745
Great man theory is true. People over a half century forgot that.

Anonymous No. 16572751

>>16572745
Turns out that Patriots really Are in Control

Anonymous No. 16572752

>>16572745
No. We need competent and active people in spaceflight to lead NASA. Infact, it could be seen as sanity being brought back to NASA. When you have decades of insanity, you think that is normal.

Anonymous No. 16572753

>>16572751
Very true and very fortunate

Anonymous No. 16572754

>>16572745
I just can't believe Orange Man did what he said he was going to do
>Freed the J6 prisoners
>Freed Ross Ulbricht
>Didn't throw RFK Jr or Tulsi under the bus
>Put Elon's guy in as head of NASA
All within like an hour of inauguration

Anonymous No. 16572756

>>16572751
The La Li Lu Le Lo?!?

Anonymous No. 16572758

>>16572756
all I'm saying is that there's been a lot of talk about repurposing oil rigs in recent years.

Anonymous No. 16572763

>>16572745
Imagine if he becomes first person on Mars too

Anonymous No. 16572773

>>16572637
Yeah but we’re going to add oceans to it as soon as we get the chance.

Anonymous No. 16572787

NASA doesn't want you to know this, but Mars isn't read due to iron oxide. Mars is actually made of cinnabar.

Anonymous No. 16572788

>>16572787
No that’s Mercury

Anonymous No. 16572791

>>16572788
They got the names mixed up, that's why NASA is trying to cover it up. It's a very embarrassing mistake for them.

Anonymous No. 16572796

how does one maximize their launch watching enjoyment

Anonymous No. 16572799

>>16572796
watch clear’s streams

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Anonymous No. 16572801

>>16572796

Anonymous No. 16572803

>>16572796
Substance abuse

Anonymous No. 16572804

>>16572801
>sfg discord
you lie

Anonymous No. 16572806

>>16572796
Edge for three days straight, then release at max q.

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>>16572804
thats the trannycord where they arrange their tranny transhumanism spam raids on /sci/

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Anonymous No. 16572826

>>16572788
kek geology joke

Anonymous No. 16572830

>>16572824
ground telescopes are getting crazy

Anonymous No. 16572843

>>16572801
>trannycord
ngmi

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Anonymous No. 16572861

They'll do this to Starship too, how do we stop them bros

Anonymous No. 16572863

>>16572861
Stop?

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Anonymous No. 16572871

How can SpaceX even compete?

Anonymous No. 16572878

>>16572861
just let them seethe, they wont stop no matter what

Anonymous No. 16572881

>>16572861
Vandalism turns the public against them.

Anonymous No. 16572887

>>16572861
I have a crazy idea.... now stay with me here.... I know it's crazy... it's a REALLY far out there idea.... but maybe.... JUST MAYBE..... elon could not throw up the roman salute on national television?

Anonymous No. 16572889

>>16572871
China might as well publicly execute a hundred villagers on live TV after each launch, and people would rather pay attention to Musk's antics instead. Such a strange world we live in.

Anonymous No. 16572904

>>16572861
they want to suck elon's cock? i don't understand the sticker

Anonymous No. 16572910

>>16572904
the ol' SEC treatment

Anonymous No. 16572912

>>16572887
and this helps who exactly?

Anonymous No. 16572913

>>16572912
kek

Anonymous No. 16572929

>>16572861
>mfw the guy that shooped this unironically saved a hate symboI onto their hard drive

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Anonymous No. 16572930

So you all believe 25% tariff on the materials that support Starship production is good why?

Anonymous No. 16572933

>>16572930
Short term pain for long term gain. Hire and buy American. Everything should be made in the USA.

Anonymous No. 16572935

>>16572930
Starship's steel is made in Alabama.

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Anonymous No. 16572938

>>16572936
h-he's fast!

Anonymous No. 16572957

>>16572938
Graditam

Anonymous No. 16572958

>>16572957
ferrero rocher

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>>16572957
Gradociter

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>>16572958
Ferrero Rocher®

Anonymous No. 16572976

>>16572936
How many rockets can you possibly fly? This is getting stupid

Anonymous No. 16572986

>>16572973
Space manufactured chocolate when? Imagine how sugar crystalisation in zero g affects the pallete

Anonymous No. 16572993

>>16572808
>get a nice transhumanism/post-scarcity worldbuilding thread going
They want to talk about worldbuilding with no desire to do what's necessary to build that world. I want most of the same things they do, but I have enormous contempt for these people because they're willing to work against our best chances at that future because they don't like how it's being done or who's doing it.
For all their deep-future speculation and smug atheism, they seem to think that if "Orange Man and Felon Huskrat" are responsible for the dawn of space colonization it'll amount to some kind of original sin for humanity spread across the universe.
They SHOULD want the most efficient route to their paradise future and they SHOULD recognize that these people they think are their enemies are the only ones enabling it. However, they'd prefer to destroy that future and live in fantasy than cooperate with icky politics, and for this reason I hate them.

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Clear live for H3-22 carrying Michibiki-6!
launch window doesn't open for another ~90min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQkXey6jfMk

JAXA stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZkj9FkYMyQ

Anonymous No. 16573005

>>16572936
all these rockets waiting for FAA clearance
disgusting

Anonymous No. 16573007

>>16572887
When even the ADL comes out and tells you to touch grass you might want to take a step back and reevaluate your life.

Anonymous No. 16573010

>>16572887
It was funny and he should do it more and keep forcing the ADL to gaslight the public. I don't know what dirt he found on them but it was clearly astoundingly bad.

Anonymous No. 16573011

When's Flight 8? This is boring. 25 flights this year my arse.

Anonymous No. 16573012

This JAXA stream's got some nice countdown music.

Anonymous No. 16573014

>>16573011
flight 8 is gonna blow up too and then flight 9 is next year

Anonymous No. 16573015

>>16572930
>>16572935
1/20 of steel used in America comes from Canada.

https://www.trade.gov/data-visualization/us-steel-executive-summary

Anonymous No. 16573017

>>16573015
Sounds like American machine shops and steel makers are gonna need to pick up the pace.

Anonymous No. 16573020

>>16573011
NET the end of the month according to FCC filings.

Anonymous No. 16573029

Why are bugs so soulless?

Anonymous No. 16573031

>>16573029
clear is cute

Anonymous No. 16573048

Countdown all the numbers

Anonymous No. 16573049

Clear has spoiled it

Anonymous No. 16573052

Just slap some starlinks on the rocket

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Anonymous No. 16573057

Clear would be very popular if Japanese had a proper space program

Anonymous No. 16573068

the japanese are silly

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Anonymous No. 16573074

>>16572887
That's insane

Anonymous No. 16573075

>>16573074
Yeah.

Anonymous No. 16573078

>>16572653
Substack is your only real choice at the moment
all formal media organizations are just political propaganda with no substance
Gonna take at least a decade of purging before actual journalism returns

And space will suffer for it, since Ol' Musky is the only one not embezzling all the money they get, and he's persona non grata

Anonymous No. 16573081

>>16573078
Proper journalism will never return as long as people still enjoy clickbait

Anonymous No. 16573086

>>16573078
I haven't completely written off berger, foust etc even if some EDS and TDS shows through every now and then
just have to keep it in mind that they have that bias when reading their articles from now on

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Anonymous No. 16573087

https://spacenews.com/iphone-starlink-compatibility-sends-direct-to-smartphone-stocks-sliding/
>Shares in Globalstar, which enables connectivity beyond the reach of cellular towers on the latest iPhones via a far-reaching partnership with Apple, closed down nearly 18% the following day. Constellation developer AST SpaceMobile slipped 12%.

Anonymous No. 16573088

Clear is globehopping very cutely

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Anonymous No. 16573090

https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/01/rocket-report-spacex-tosses-away-a-falcon-9-a-somalian-spaceport/

Small Rockets
>UK government injects $25 million into Orbex.
>Turkey may develop a spaceport in Somalia.
>Firefly expands Alpha launch plans to Wallops and Sweden.
>MaiaSpace targets 2026 for debut launch.

Medium Rockets
>Arianespace inking deals for its new rocket.
>SpaceX expends a Falcon 9 rocket.
>India marks first launch of 2025.

Heavy Rockets
>New Glenn represents a milestone moment for Blue Origin.
>Space Force has big dreams for ULA this year.
>April 2026 a “no later than” date for Artemis II.

Anonymous No. 16573091

>>16573088
She's in orbit

Anonymous No. 16573092

>>16573088
clear is a man

Anonymous No. 16573093

>>16573090
>April 2026 a “no later than” date for Artemis II.
Jesus, at this point spacex being late with HLS would look bad for spacex

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Anonymous No. 16573095

Turkey developing a spaceport in Somalia
pretty good location from a latitude + sea in the east situation but I wonder about the infrastructure (and unstable government)

Anonymous No. 16573096

>>16573093
you believe the Artemis contractors will get there?
I'm thinking Artemis 2 goes ahead and that will be the last one
they won't get faster or better

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Anonymous No. 16573098

>>16572653
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/it-seems-the-faa-office-overseeing-spacexs-starship-probe-still-has-some-bite/

https://x.com/MaximZavet/status/1880403878589657343
two old week clip in the article that I had missed

Anonymous No. 16573099

>>16572887
this is one of the most feminine reddit-style posts i've ever seen.

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Anonymous No. 16573100

>>16573098
https://x.com/MaximZavet/status/1880657470160621713

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Anonymous No. 16573101

I'm planning to go on vacation to Japan in a couple of months. What are some spaceflight things to have a look at?

Anonymous No. 16573102

>>16573101
kidnap clear and post pictures of her belly.

Anonymous No. 16573103

>>16572887
It's the Martian Salute

Anonymous No. 16573105

>>16573101
Go to JAXA Tsukuba space centre and if you have money + time, get a flight/ferry to Tanegashima

Anonymous No. 16573110

>>16573102
And bring her to the /sfg/ rape dungeon. We gotta settle this 'is she a woman' thing once and for all.

Anonymous No. 16573113

>>16572312
>gay projects
>interpreting JWST data is gay
the very mentality of this board is a nutshell

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Anonymous No. 16573121

https://www.fastcompany.com/91270027/trump-acting-faa-administrator-chris-rocheleau-deadly-plane-crash-aftermath
>Michael Whitaker, the FAA’s most recent administrator—a 30-year aviation industry veteran, who was unanimously confirmed as FAA administrator by the Senate in October 2023—resigned on January 20, as President Trump took office, following continued public criticism from Elon Musk, Trump’s close adviser, who called on Whitaker to “resign.” Musks’s issues with Whitaker were personal, having to do with fines the Whitaker-led FAA proposed on SpaceX, Musk’s space-technology company, over alleged government violations in two of its rocket launches.

Anonymous No. 16573130

>>16573095
The Neo-Ottoman empire is really starting to come together

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Anonymous No. 16573138

>>16573103
Guess I'm clairvoyant.

Anonymous No. 16573148

>>16573110
she's a girl but I will make her into a woman.

Anonymous No. 16573192

>>16573101
nork rockets flying into the sea of japan

Anonymous No. 16573195

>>16572426
meet the schedule without rushing
it's the same thing anyone has to do under tight constraints
but if it's really not possible you need to communicate that upwards while still doing everything you can
I don't know how this isn't obvious
what kind of conditions do the rest of you work under?

Anonymous No. 16573200

>>16573195
he just wants to doom and
>uuuuh this isn't looking good guys!
post

he doesn't actually have a coherent argument to give.

Anonymous No. 16573203

>>16572517
It’s really fucking dumb. The biggest requirements for a data center are power and cooling, which on earth can be solved with a power outlet and river water.

In orbit you need to build your own power infrastructure and actively cool all your hardware, which is massively complicated by the lack of a heat sink.

Plus your hardware needs to work without any human intervention or you'll need to arrange to regularly send astronauts to perform maintenance. Either way adds orders of magnitude to the cost compared to paying a guy to replace hardware on earth.

Anonymous No. 16573205

>>16572552
>one-third of all food consumed worldwide is fermented
What staples are fermented? Rice, corn and potatoes are eaten as is. Are they counting baked goods with yeast in them? Even tofu is generally not fermented.

Anonymous No. 16573206

>>16572561
>>16572552
yeast lives on human skin
anywhere with people is not "ultra hygienic"
just relax

Anonymous No. 16573209

>>16572686
You are a gay retard.

Anonymous No. 16573211

>>16572722
yeah

Anonymous No. 16573213

>>16573205
NTA but kimchi, miso, onions sauce, rice vinegar and mirin, for rice asian countries
Potato countries would be things like beer, sauerkraut, pickled vegetables
Scandinavian countries historically lived off of preserved fish I believe
I don’t think the staples themselves are necessarily fermented - but enough of it has been incorporated into the diet of almost every culture because things like refrigeration to preserve food is still a relatively new technology

Anonymous No. 16573216

>>16573090
>big dreams for ULA
lol, lmao even
this is like having big dreams for a carrier pigeon service after the invention of radio

Anonymous No. 16573217

>>16573095
Good news for people who want to see space pirates

Anonymous No. 16573219

>>16573101
You could visit Boca Chica before you go

Anonymous No. 16573229

>>16573095
expect hijackers ransoming the rockets before each launch

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16573259

>canada will specifically target elon and his companies for tariffs
looks like america's hat wont be launching anything into space any time soon

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Anonymous No. 16573261

>>16573229
>fly explosive drones into Starbase at night and land in scrubland
>threaten to RUD Super Heavy when its fuelled and counting down unless paid in btc

Anonymous No. 16573265

>>16573261
send out a spare booster to hover above any nearby villages until the threat is removed

Anonymous No. 16573302

>>16573100
wtf the heat shield tiles are just york peppermint patties

Anonymous No. 16573313

>>16573005
>FAA
anon, they have no jurisdiction over Japan's glorious H3 rocket

Anonymous No. 16573314

>>16573302
SHHHHH trade secret

Anonymous No. 16573329

Buran my beloved

Anonymous No. 16573353

Nothing to talk about

Anonymous No. 16573354

>>16573353
unfortunately most of the industry shuts down on the weekends

Anonymous No. 16573358

>>16573353
unfortunately, shartship is turning into every other oldpspace rocket. Except those at least worked when they finally were built.

Anonymous No. 16573360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVNtUN57hPU
>now that the administration has put their hands on ISS crew rotations and safety, does it mean if the starliner astronauts have to stay, that Trump and Musk stranded them there for a couple more months? Guess we'll see ;^)
sloss has succumb to EDS

Anonymous No. 16573362

>>16573360
What garbage, I'm not clicking that shit.

Anonymous No. 16573363

cartel using weaponized drones south of rio grande valley

Anonymous No. 16573364

>>16573360
>someone makes a joke related to current politics
>REEEEE EDS EDS EDS AAAAAAAAAAAAA
holy shit you tourists are easier to trigger than twitter trannies

Anonymous No. 16573365

>>16573364
there's no difference

Anonymous No. 16573367

>>16573358
except it isn't, and you're trying desperately to create a consensus around this and failing.
if this was an oldspace rocket, the program would only ever see 1 launch and be cancelled a month before the scheduled 2nd launch.

Anonymous No. 16573368

When Flight 8? I'm bored.

Anonymous No. 16573369

>>16573364
gomenasorry I was just trying to make a joke. maybe I should have added 'it's so over' or 'i can't believe sloss would betray us like this'
Also I think it's kind of funny you think a tourist would be watching a 4hr old video made by a niche youtuber on Artemis updates.

Anonymous No. 16573370

>>16573368
March

Anonymous No. 16573371

>>16573368
feb 20 is the earliest date

Anonymous No. 16573372

>>16573370
Left, left, left right left.

Anonymous No. 16573373

>>16573358
>>16573367
yep and instead starship is making incremental improvements in the exact same way that the most succesfull rocket of all time: falcon 9 was doing.

there is a palpable panic to be noticed in any current day "criticism" of starship, even a year ago i wouldn't have seen this level of histrionic and fervent hyperbolic antics.
they really are scared as fuck that full-scale starships are regularly being launched, when even the booster functioning with all engines on takeoff was supposed to be impossible and they would never ever ever be able to do it, same thing with the catch mechanism.
their fear of starship becoming fully realized is coming to fruition.

Anonymous No. 16573376

>>16573367
how many launches have we seen this year anon? When's the next one? How many were we promised this year?
It is clear to anyone with even a speck of rationality left in their heads that spacex is stagnating and on it's way to regression.
>>16573373
who's """They""", anon? I'm interested in what kind of schizo delusions you're seeing.

Anonymous No. 16573377

>>16573368
Feb 24th

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Anonymous No. 16573382

KNEEL

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Anonymous No. 16573387

>>16573376
>How many were we promised this year?

You seem to think it is 25, mind giving a citation?

Anonymous No. 16573388

>>16573382
15 years late lmfaoooo

Anonymous No. 16573390

>>16573360
What exactly is the problem?

Anonymous No. 16573395

>>16573376
>how many launches have we seen this year anon?
one, because it's literally the beginning of the year.
>How many were we promised this year?
we weren't "promised" any because that's not how this works, there is no contract made with you that starship has to launch 25 times or it's a failure. spacex puts out assessments of what it thinks it might be able to pull off, reality tends to put a wrench in those gears. you're not "owed" some arbitrary level of progress to delay your obsessive doomerism, and if we used this same method to judge falcon 9, it would be a complete and utter stagnating failure because it never quite reaches it's ridiculously lofty cadence "goals" each year, even if it makes clear and resounding progress regardless. turning the impossible into late is what spacex specializes in.
>who's """They""", anon?
people with an unnaturally obsessive hatred of starship, like yourself, since most of the deranged conclusions you keep drawing could only be made out of a fervent dislike of the rocket in question, they're not coherent.
i'm not going to theorize about why this is, could be any number of reasons, some more common than others, i'm just pointing out the elephant in the room which is your obsessive behaviour and attempt at consensus forming.

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Anonymous No. 16573399

actually, according to this chart I found on my pc we are right on schedule

Anonymous No. 16573400

>>16573399
>only 11 launches this year
its over

Anonymous No. 16573402

>>16573400
>trusting spacex promises ever
you had it coming

Anonymous No. 16573404

>>16573382
gay

Anonymous No. 16573434

>>16573387
>Gwynne Shotwell, the president and COO of SpaceX, has said that the company plans to launch the Starship 25 times in 2025.

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Anonymous No. 16573438

>>16573434
anon, greentext isn't a citation

Anonymous No. 16573456

>>16573438
That's a quote

Anonymous No. 16573462

>>16573456
who are you quoting?

Anonymous No. 16573467

>>16573462
Are you retarded

Anonymous No. 16573475

>>16573438
The materials being referenced came from this live talk she gave last year. It's about 42 minutes long, but it's the source of everything we're talking about now: https://www.youtube.com/live/zt8WrIAa2Ok

>>16573456
You're supposed to link your quote's source. The referenced text produces zero search results.

>>16573462
He's not properly quoting anybody, but going by recollection. Perhaps not surprisingly, he did not remember things correctly: https://spaceexplored.com/2024/11/27/starship-could-replace-falcon-and-dragon-in-less-than-a-decade/

Shotwell did not say they intend to launch 25 times in 2025, but the FAA did give authorization for up to 25 launches. What she actually said was:
>"We just passed 400 launches on Falcon, and I would not be surprised if we fly 400 Starship launches in the next four years."
>"We want to fly it a lot."
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/spacex-president-predicts-rapid-increase-in-starship-launch-rate

Anonymous No. 16573476

>>16573456
It's not a quote though, it's someone deliberately misquoting Shotwell.

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Anonymous No. 16573480

>>16573399
Wrong chart

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Anonymous No. 16573487

Is this retarded?

https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/domes-are-very-over-rated/

Anonymous No. 16573488

>>16573487
looks like casey reads /sfg/

Anonymous No. 16573491

>>16573487
All forms of speculative Martian geo-engineering are pointless until they get real data on the ground load bearing conditions.

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Anonymous No. 16573499

>>16573487
It would be extremely aesthetic.

Anonymous No. 16573501

>>16573499
>inflatable plastic sheet held down by ugly metal cables dug into toxic poop coloured mars regolith
Nah.

Anonymous No. 16573507

>>16573501
I don't see any of that in the image posted, anon.

Anonymous No. 16573509

>>16573507
because you didn't post a picture of mars.

Anonymous No. 16573511

>>16573487
>>16573499
>go to mars/moon
>dig holes in a grid very deep
>put in rebar and pour in concrete
>now pour a giant slab of concrete that rests on top of it all.
>now dig out all the dirt under the slab and dump it on top of the slab
>the concrete poured in the holes now become pillars.
>you now have big space shielded by radiation&small meteorites where you can build whatever you want.

And this job can be done by blue collar workers, just give them the tools.

Anonymous No. 16573514

>>16573499
so long as they do not delve too deeply

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Anonymous No. 16573517

growing calls in the UK for their own iron dome, possibly to include interceptors that can hit targets in space

>Concerns over gaps in the protection of British skies were heightened this month when it emerged RAF Typhoons were unable to shoot down ballistic missiles fired from Iran into Israel.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk-missile-defences-inadequate-against-russian-attack-ex-ministers-warn-3333144

>Each branch of the UK armed forces has a system to repel incoming missiles...but it stops short of preventing attack by an intermediate or long-range ballistic missile
>The only capability the UK armed forces have to stop ballistic missiles are the Sea Viper and Sea Ceptor air defence missiles, which can be fired off Royal Navy Type 45 destroyers.
>There are only six of these battleships and not all of those are in UK waters. Its radar is short range and Viper and Ceptor cannot shoot down a hypersonic missile.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk-iron-dome-needed-guard-against-russian-attack-defence-review-3512317

Anonymous No. 16573536

>>16573517
Skylon Spitfires when?