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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16609371

Saarship launch 8 attempt 2 - edition

previous >>16606739

Anonymous No. 16609375

>>16609371
FIRST FOR EUROPE

Anonymous No. 16609376

>saarship
nuclear holocaust of india please PLEASE PLEAAAAASEEE

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Anonymous No. 16609377

>>16609371

Anonymous No. 16609378

third for zubrin

Anonymous No. 16609379

>>16609376
no saar please

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Anonymous No. 16609381

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1897707132276896092

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16609382

Buy Gamestop

Anonymous No. 16609383

Where would the potentially massive starship legs even fit?

Anonymous No. 16609386

>>16609383
they will be mounted externally like on HLS with the windward side ones being shielded

Anonymous No. 16609387

>>16609371
you should have made a thread that looked unrelated to starship so the launch thread diversion is maximally effective

Anonymous No. 16609388

>>16609382
jesus, what a cult

Anonymous No. 16609390

https://x.com/jackiewattles/status/1897724008201961862
>Intuitive Machines CEO Steve Altemus just addressed employees at a watch party in Houston. Honfirmed the vehicle is intact, delivering data, generating power — but "not enough," hence Intuitive Machines' efforts to shut down certain components to save energy.

Anonymous No. 16609392

>>16609390
I really do hope it’s dust on the panels, although I’m not exactly sure how it would get there.

Anonymous No. 16609395

>>16609392
engine wouldnt shut off

Anonymous No. 16609397

>>16609390
>Intact
But no mention of "upright".

Anonymous No. 16609398

>>16609395
it probably tipped over and kept running

Anonymous No. 16609399

>>16609395
Yeah but how does the dust curve back on the lander instead of away from it?

Anonymous No. 16609401

>>16609395
what trajectory would get dust kicked up by the engine onto the panels? It's in vacuum, no dust cloud floating around

Anonymous No. 16609403

>>16609401
it's not really vacuum because you just pumped your landing area full of your exhaust

Anonymous No. 16609405

>>16609381
What is this Eric guy on about? I didn't see anything in that statement blaming Space Force for rocket delays.

Anonymous No. 16609406

>>16609377
>Vetruvian Lander

Anonymous No. 16609408

>>16609403
there's no atmosphere to contain the exhaust

Anonymous No. 16609409

>>16609405
Bruno expects most of the payloads to be delayed because of their extreme exquisiteness. So, there is no reason to hold them to a schedule like that. I mean, come on. These payloads are exquisitely unique and irreplaceable. We can shift to the right, just a little.

Anonymous No. 16609411

>Intuitive Machines’ lunar lander, Athena, touched down on the Moon at approximately 12:30pm ET (1730 UTC). For more updates, please check @Int_Machines and tune in to the post-landing conference at 4:00pm ET (2100 UTC).

https://x.com/NASA/status/1897735915235131437

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Anonymous No. 16609412

>>16609256
>I actually have a stockpile

Anonymous No. 16609414

>>16609411
>Landed side ways, but it landed

Anonymous No. 16609415

why don't they just land with skates instead of l*gs

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Anonymous No. 16609416

>>16609411
Lets Go! Round 2!

Anonymous No. 16609420

>>16609415
Why don't they land with a bouncy castle?

Anonymous No. 16609421

rational machines > intuitive machines

Anonymous No. 16609422

why don't they just land

Anonymous No. 16609423

instinctive machines

Anonymous No. 16609425

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1897737876819132846

Updateee

Anonymous No. 16609428

If you make it spherical, you won't have this problem.

Anonymous No. 16609429

>>16609420
PICKLE RIICK

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Anonymous No. 16609431

Why did they even make Nova-C taller than it's wider?

>Dimensions
>Length 3 m (9.8 ft)
>Diameter 2 m (6 ft 7 in)

Anonymous No. 16609432

If you don't even attempt to land you wont have this problem

Anonymous No. 16609433

SpaceX will build tower on Moon before landing

Anonymous No. 16609434

>>16609431
it’s not that easy in landerery

Anonymous No. 16609435

some guy just violated the exclusion zone on a bicycle

Anonymous No. 16609437

>>16609431
>muh height
retard, it didn't tip over because of CoM issues, it tipped over because the fucking leg broke off

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Anonymous No. 16609439

>>16609425
its over

Anonymous No. 16609441

>>16609439
fell for it award

Anonymous No. 16609442

>>16609439
>>16609425 (You)
its over
almost fooled me, and I posted the fucking link

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Anonymous No. 16609443

>>16609439
Nope.

Anonymous No. 16609444

>>16609442
forgot to add lol

Anonymous No. 16609445

>>16609439
I wish. I’m going to miss the launch because of my commute but I don’t work tomorrow.

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Anonymous No. 16609446

>>16609437
Consider the following

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Anonymous No. 16609447

>Post yfw 0/2

Anonymous No. 16609448

>>16609446
or they could get their GNC guy to stop hitting the surface at 10mph

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Anonymous No. 16609449

https://x.com/cybertruck/status/1897730605519192098
>Godspeed, friend

Anonymous No. 16609450

>>16609448
Or they could use stronger legs.

Anonymous No. 16609451

>>16609449
buy an ad Elon
better yet buy the website

Anonymous No. 16609452

Just cut engines and inflate airbags in the last 10 seconds and bounce/roll to a stop like Opportunity/Spirit

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Anonymous No. 16609453

you may not like it but this is what peak stability looks like

Anonymous No. 16609454

>>16609450
Okay solution but that's mass inefficient. A soft touchdown with zero lateral velocity in 0.16g and no atmosphere shouldn't be the hard part.

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Anonymous No. 16609456

>>16609453
The Japanese tried that and it landed on its head, engine pointed upwards, instead.

Anonymous No. 16609457

>>16609454
>mass inefficient
We are in post-starship society

Anonymous No. 16609458

>>16609449
is that ship 26

Anonymous No. 16609459

>>16609454
and yet here we are

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Anonymous No. 16609460

>>16609456
Dumb lander

Anonymous No. 16609461

>>16609457
Starship is going to have to soft touchdown, too. If it pulls an IM-1 it just explodes.

Anonymous No. 16609462

>>16609460
needs correction

Anonymous No. 16609463

>>16609461
it will have abundant mass margins to install strong and wide landing legs

Anonymous No. 16609468

>>16609457
we live in a starship is currently in a r&d society. and intuitive machines is OVER society.

Anonymous No. 16609469

>>16609382
shut the fuck up, just please shut the fuck up

Anonymous No. 16609470

>>16609452
>inflate airbags
>in space

Anonymous No. 16609471

>>16609470
yes

Anonymous No. 16609472

>>16609469
>>16609382

kek Dumbfuck Hedgies

Anonymous No. 16609473

Im-2 might not have flippes over, the solar cells could just be facing away from the sun or shadowed. It's the south pole. The sun's low.

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>>16609470
You heard me.

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Anonymous No. 16609476

WHELP

Anonymous No. 16609478

It's officially over
>The landing appears to have had an issue. There is one pic which shows it may have tipped over; not generating full power (which may indicate it's tipped over) and engine did not shut off on landing which it should have done (if in upright position). Press conf at 4PM ET

https://x.com/redplanetrick/status/1897745470539341934

Anonymous No. 16609479

Kek

Anonymous No. 16609480

>>16609475
That looks stupid as hell, give me metal any day of the week.

Anonymous No. 16609481

>>16609376
>Saarship
Nice meme I've got there.

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Anonymous No. 16609482

>>16609476

Anonymous No. 16609483

SPACE
IS
HARD

Anonymous No. 16609484

>>16609476
>>16609478


What is this Amateur hour!

Anonymous No. 16609485

>>16609476
I really wanted to see a photo from the permanently shadowed crater made by Micro Nova hopper. Do I have now to wait for Artemis 3? Or will VIPER be reactivated or is there another mission that will do it?

Anonymous No. 16609486

>>16609390
Is adding wipers to panels really too hard?

Anonymous No. 16609487

It's even funnier the second time

Anonymous No. 16609488

>>16609484
That guys is a NASA employee

Anonymous No. 16609489

>>16609478
On the stream, didn't some woman say the engine still running indicated it was upright? kek

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Anonymous No. 16609490

https://x.com/VardaSpace/status/1897720121965396459

Anonymous No. 16609491

Moon is hard

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>>16609480
I'll give you metal any day of the week.

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Anonymous No. 16609493

hop status?

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>>16609489
Here is a simulation from the expert
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1897748180059734468

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https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1897748180059734468

Anonymous No. 16609498

awaiting for thunderf00t to debunk IM...

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Anonymous No. 16609499

>>16609495
>>16609497

Anonymous No. 16609501

Is adding wider landing legs too hard?

Anonymous No. 16609502

>>16609476
this is why you F5 BEFORE burning retro

Anonymous No. 16609503

>>16609498
Not an Elon company so it ain't gonna happen.

Anonymous No. 16609504

>>16609497
Would be comical

Anonymous No. 16609505

>>16609501
Wider legs is planning for failure. Only losers do that.

Anonymous No. 16609506

>>16609501
Wider legs are heavier

Anonymous No. 16609508

>>16609506
Raptor 3 will solve this
(unironically)

Anonymous No. 16609509

Just beef up the landing leg suspension and cut engine 2 feet above ground. How hard can it be?

Anonymous No. 16609510

>>16609508
I wonder, spacex is no stranger to mass autism.

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Anonymous No. 16609513

>>16609511
use case for LIDAR/SLAM?

Anonymous No. 16609514

>>16609506
If the first mission failed because it fell over it doesn't matter if wider legs add 20 pounds, you need to include it on the next go around. They failed to address it at all and it just tipped over again!

Anonymous No. 16609516

>>16609513
use case for WIDER LEGS

Anonymous No. 16609517

>>16609511
rocks is hard job

Anonymous No. 16609518

>>16609513
Sounds like that would add a lot more complexity when they could add wider legs and be done with it.

Anonymous No. 16609520

>>16609513
It didn't have LIDAR?

Anonymous No. 16609521

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mMJxIttBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mMJxIttBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mMJxIttBc

NEWS BRIEFING

Anonymous No. 16609522

>>16609516
>>16609518
>add wider legs
>land on taller rock

Anonymous No. 16609523

>>16609511
>when oyveying and shutting it down finally backfired

Anonymous No. 16609525

>>16609520
If it did then it really makes you wonder why they can't land on flat ground

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Anonymous No. 16609526

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1897754053263999237

Anonymous No. 16609527

>>16609511
What is the solution to this? Especially if it’s something big like HLS?
Each leg getting a dedicated laser or lidar sensor?

Anonymous No. 16609528

It IS on the moon, but then so was the last one.

Anonymous No. 16609529

>WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE AT THE CORRECT ATTITUDE

O
V
E
R

Anonymous No. 16609530

"We don't know the ships attitude. We have images, but won't show them"

Same problem as before.

Anonymous No. 16609531

>>16609529
TIPPED

O
V
E
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Anonymous No. 16609532

>>16609527
Sure why not

Anonymous No. 16609533

>>16609522
Clearly the answer then would be even wider legs to avoid the even taller rocks. The space leg arms race.

Anonymous No. 16609534

Shitty coding again, methinks

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Anonymous No. 16609535

It's...... over......

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Anonymous No. 16609536

>"Hey, when you think about it, when you don't mention the mission failing, the mission was a success!"

Anonymous No. 16609537

>>16609535
SALE

BUY BUY BUY

Anonymous No. 16609538

>>16609535
They are never getting another contract, it's fucking over for them.

Anonymous No. 16609539

>>16609535
buy buy buy buy buy

Anonymous No. 16609540

>We ran our cryogenic engine flawlessly!
>We orbited the moon in perfect coms link!
>We had a great mission!

BUT DID YOU LAND ON THE MOON????

Anonymous No. 16609541

>LANDING ON THE MOON IS EXTREMELY HARD

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Anonymous No. 16609542

kind of copey
I guess it went better than last time

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Anonymous No. 16609543

Occult NASA lady..... SPACE IS FAKE

Anonymous No. 16609544

>>16609540
They did, yes.

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Anonymous No. 16609545

How come Firefly succeeded on the first attempt?

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Anonymous No. 16609546

such is life...

Anonymous No. 16609547

>>16609541
"Give me $20, I'll pay you back tomorrow"
I dunno, you never paid me back from the last $20 I lent you
"COMOOOOOOOOON"
Ok ok-

Hey where is my $20??
"Money is hard"

Anonymous No. 16609548

>>16609545
Those choose the correct name. If they choose fire"land" then it would have failed the landing since they tempted fate. Naming the lander "Intuitive" was the worst thing they could have done since nothing about space is intuitive and the name is tempting fate.

Anonymous No. 16609549

>>16609545
Mandate of heaven

Anonymous No. 16609550

>>16609548
this is why Ultra Safe Nuclear Corp will never succeed

Anonymous No. 16609551

Starship stuck the landing on third try too.

Anonymous No. 16609553

>>16609545
flatter landing location, passively stable lander, more conventional thrusters (hypergolic)
basically they tried to make a simple semi-conventional MVP instead of a rube goldberg machine that Inuitive Machines seems to be doing with its rovers on top of rovers and other random ass shit

Anonymous No. 16609554

SFG is ALIVE

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Anonymous No. 16609557

>Congratulations to Intuitive Machines for putting another lander on the surface of the Moon

Anonymous No. 16609558

>>16609550
kek NTA but exactly. It’s the same thing with Astra putting stupid little googly eyes on their mission control monitors before having even one (1) success.
No horseplay until you can price yourself. No silly mission names. No childish gimmicks. Have some successes first, THEN start having fun.
Anything else is arrogance and cocky

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Anonymous No. 16609559

https://x.com/NASASun/status/1897666708300562876

Anonymous No. 16609560

>Congratulations on landing your second mission on the moon!
If I crashed my car twice into my house on the drive home from work, I would not call it parking in the drive way twice.

Holy fucking COPE

Anonymous No. 16609561

>>16609527
downward facing lidar and vision sensors to avoid boulders and slopes.
it's also possible to remote override, but landing prop margins need to be large to buy time

Anonymous No. 16609562

>>16609559
I’m so autistic I knew this was parker solar probe looking at Venus, bc they’ve released similar footage before. I can now identify missions and planets from pattern recognition

Anonymous No. 16609563

>>16609562
nope, it's the Solar Orbiter

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Anonymous No. 16609564

>Chief Growth Officer
Definitely doing a great job

Anonymous No. 16609565

>>16609560
lol it’s like saying the Columbia disaster was pretty much a success because it went to orbit and, technically, came back to earth

Anonymous No. 16609566

>>16609548
This is the correct answer. Names are POWERFUL.

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Anonymous No. 16609569

kino

Anonymous No. 16609570

>>16609553
>rube goldberg machine
Nova C looks like a satellite bus with legs

Anonymous No. 16609571

>>16609565
>congratulations to Columbia landing at Texas and Louisiana

Anonymous No. 16609572

>>16609553
The Moon isn't really great about doing "flatter." Blue Ghost came down in a fairly unchallenged area and there was more than enough topography and obstacles to make it auto-divert off of its original landing target. IM-2 was also planning to land near the pole which doesn't present as many clean landing zones as other regions.

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Anonymous No. 16609577

Let's discuss Titan.

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>>16609569
same vibes

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Anonymous No. 16609580

>>16609570
it needs to land in a specific orientation with respect to every rotational axis or it doesn't get any power
if there is a small stone or the slope is just a little bit off flat, it falls over
the fact its not passively stable or powered without very specific things happening makes it more complicated than it needs to be

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/space/spaceship/nova-c-lunar-im-1-mission

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Anonymous No. 16609582

>>16609580

Anonymous No. 16609583

>>16609580
It's a very unintuitive design.

Anonymous No. 16609585

>thunderf00t will not be streaming

what the fuck happened to /ourguy/

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Anonymous No. 16609586

>>16609572
The moon is so low gravity a tiny motor and a long carbon rod could flip it the right way up. Would use like 100 grams of weight

hell deploy 3 meter carbon booms so that it can never land wrong even on rocky surfaces

Anonymous No. 16609587

>>16609572
> IM-2 was also planning to land near the pole which doesn't present as many clean landing zones as other regions.
exactly my point
they chose a more challenging landing location i.e. less flat hilly area instead of a plain, whether its absolutely flat is pedantry

Anonymous No. 16609588

>>16609585
day drinking is starting to catch up with him

Anonymous No. 16609589

>>16609572
Great let’s send a giant ass Starship there with humans in it

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>>16609476
US is now literally behind India levels technologically, big Oof

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Anonymous No. 16609593

>>16609586
reminds me of this unintended feature I made one time

Anonymous No. 16609594

>>16609593
kino

Anonymous No. 16609595

>>16609593
>Jeb looks in in awe

Anonymous No. 16609597

Who the FUCK cares about IM3? It's a dumb mid latitude mission, anything of value is at the poles. And they fucked up their polar mission.

Anonymous No. 16609598

>>16609593
Very nice

Anonymous No. 16609599

>>16609587
They chose to land at the pole because their primary science payload was a drill that was going to be investigating potential ice deposits

Anonymous No. 16609600

>laser data was unexpectedly noisy this time
>they root caused last flight failure to laser being off instead of enginnering decision to not ensure safe landing with camera and imu only
>they didn't try their utmost to totally fix tipping over as a possibility
>they didn't add extra solar panels on the sides even though that would have dramatically helped both them and the japanese lander last time
>they had state confusion with the engine firing while grounded
>they SPACed
absolute joke of a company. ngmi.

Anonymous No. 16609601

>>16609569
le sex

Anonymous No. 16609602

>>16609599
maybe they should learn how to land (at all) before trying to do polar missions

Anonymous No. 16609603

>>16609600
sadly I can't disagree

Anonymous No. 16609604

>>16609569
I hear Rafales fuck like gogo dancers.

Anonymous No. 16609605

>>16609600
Third time is the charm!

Anonymous No. 16609606

>>16609600
>>laser data was unexpectedly noisy this time
like from the regolith being kicked up?

Anonymous No. 16609607

>>16609600
I wish this wasn't the case but some companies have it and some don't. This one clearly doesn't.

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Anonymous No. 16609609

uhh

Anonymous No. 16609611

>>16609609
BUY THE DIP

Anonymous No. 16609612

>>16609609
Imagine buying and expecting a big payout because the lander succeeded in landing and losing all your money because the lander fell over again

Anonymous No. 16609613

>>16609600
You’d think if the laser not even activating last time was the (seemingly sole) problem for mission failure, they would have covered their asses BIG TIME to ensure it worked completely and flawlessly

Anonymous No. 16609615

>>16609607
in this case it seems to be a handful of lead architects being retards.

Anonymous No. 16609616

>do you know what you're doing?
Jesus

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>>16609593

Anonymous No. 16609618

>>16609615
That's all it takes, once those kinds of people get lead positions then everything below them begins to fail. Happened at my job as well, there was one team that was filled with "the rejects" and somehow one of them got into a position of power and has been actively fucking things up. Get enough of the rejects into positions to dictate how things are done and it doesn't matter if everyone under them is Einstein, nothing good can be produced at that point.

Anonymous No. 16609619

>>16609616
lmaooo

Anonymous No. 16609620

>>16609616
What?

Anonymous No. 16609621

>we fit out at the limits of the SpaceX fairing
>the center of gravity was very low

Anonymous No. 16609623

>>16609620
IM press thing, one of the journos directly questioned the 'low-cost approach' after citing their failures.

Anonymous No. 16609624

> IM crashes another lander

Well, at least they're consistent.

Anonymous No. 16609625

Hopper is still deployable?

Anonymous No. 16609626

Just keep launching!

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Anonymous No. 16609628

>>16609624
Consistency is the first step towards profitability.

Anonymous No. 16609629

>its important that we learn
next time make the solar panel orientation even more precise

Anonymous No. 16609631

What if they add a drone on a string and attach the string to the to of the lander. That way when they fall over a third time they can activate the drone and have it pull it into an upright position

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Anonymous No. 16609632

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1897760082131403064

Anonymous No. 16609633

>Starship explodes for the 7th time without making it to orbit
>tHiS is FiNe!!111!!111 itS calEd iTeRRaTiVee DesDign

>Intuitive Machines manages to land on the Moon twice but has trouble with their orientation just like many young people
>THEY ARE A BAD COMPANY

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>>16609632

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Anonymous No. 16609635

https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/1897759723153506412
>"I really think Mars is going to be one of the biggest profit-generating endeavors in history." - @shaunmmaguire
>"(We need) nuclear power plants in a box, vertical farming, surgical robots, self-assembling fabs in space."
>"I think all the second-order businesses that spin out from this are going to be outrageously valuable."

Anonymous No. 16609636

>>16609631
What if they added inflatable balloons they could fill to raise it up?

Anonymous No. 16609637

>>16609449
wtf is that supposed to mean? the speed of god?

Anonymous No. 16609638

On the flip side it wasn't a regression.

Anonymous No. 16609639

>>16609633
SpaceX started with extremely simple MVP rockets, they didn't start with Starship

Anonymous No. 16609640

>>16609633
>Intuitive Machines manages to land on the Moon twice but has trouble with their orientation just like many young people
jej

Anonymous No. 16609641

>>16609633
obligatory (You)

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Anonymous No. 16609642

>>16609636
That could also work

Anonymous No. 16609643

FUCK CLPS! cheaper spacecraft ain't working, just build fewer and build them RIGHT!

Anonymous No. 16609644

>>16609642
>parachute
>in a vacuum
/sfg/ is a brilliant

Anonymous No. 16609645

>>16609476
shittiest possible legs to put on a moonar lander

Anonymous No. 16609646

>>16609644
We are talking about a balloon here, not a parachute.

Anonymous No. 16609647

>>16609490
saarda space jabpoopal

Anonymous No. 16609648

>>16609521
just now:
>and thats what these contracts are written for, to allow for misssteps or failures...
but not basically the same error happening two times in a row?!
How can you build this, fuck up the landing manouver, then build basically the exact same thing once more, and fuck up the landing manouver AGAIN?!
The Indians have managed to land something on the moon FFS.
Like do they expect "me" (as a taxpayer) to fund an exact repeat of the previous 2 failed missions a 3rd time?

oh and:
> the same error happening two times in a row?!
please dont make me eat my words and explode again just like flight 7 starship, pretty please?

Anonymous No. 16609649

>>16609545
way better legs/feet, center of mass

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>>16609633
>has trouble with their orientation just like many young people

Anonymous No. 16609651

>>16609643
its clearly working somewhat, inuitive machines design just seems overly ambitious and complicated
maybe they nail it the third time, the mountain said that on IM-1 they could barely control the lander and now it was basically a breeze so clearly they have improved a lot
doing it this way just seems kind of unnecessarily risky, what if the NASA contracts stop?
instead they could have landed a simple lander to show that they are capable of doing it and then start making it fancy

Anonymous No. 16609652

>>16609633
kek

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>>16609651

> clearly they have improved a lot

Yeah, last time they crashed then fell over on their side.

Anonymous No. 16609656

>>16609635
>Mars will need to buy a lot of stuff and that makes it a profit center
Okay great, but how does Mars make money to pay for any of that? That's the part that has never made any sense?

inb4
>well uh elon is going to sell lots of cars and satellites and stuff and will then generously fund all the mars colony stuff as an act of charity
wonderful. but not sustainable.

Anonymous No. 16609658

>>16609454
You know what's also mass-inefficient? 100% useless mass because it's fallen over and can't do its job.

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Anonymous No. 16609660

we iz need mo' moneh fo' them pograms

Anonymous No. 16609661

>>16609656
the mars colony could own a part of SpaceX and then own the technologies that are developed as a result of trying to build the colony
then you make money by applying that tech back on earth, at least that seemed like the argument
the colony itself being a massive RnD project with monetizable research

Anonymous No. 16609662

>>16609648
>please dont make me eat my words and explode again just like flight 7 starship, pretty please?
you jinxed it. At least now we know who to sacrifice as a scapegoat

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Anonymous No. 16609663

"Stop me if you've heard this one before."

Anonymous No. 16609664

>>16609639
and all three of them blew the fuck up and VCs ran for the hills

Anonymous No. 16609665

https://mainenginecutoff.com/podcast/296
BIG JIM

Anonymous No. 16609666

it will fucking explode

Anonymous No. 16609667

>>16609656
Mars will export Martian rocks/regolith, Martian grown foods, cutting edge research and technology, and tourism.

Anonymous No. 16609668

SOMEONE BAKE A LAUNCH THREAD ALREADY

Anonymous No. 16609669

>>16609408
Moon's gravity is sufficient that landing exhaust will kick up a cloud of razor dust that will circle the surface and land back, some of it anyway, where it was kicked off from. Which may be sufficient to impact the power production. This is in addition to any dust that got kicked up straight up and then came back down and deposited on the panels. Moon's gravity is 1/6th Earth's, but for dust, that's 1/6th too much. Lack of atmosphere is irrelevant.

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Anonymous No. 16609670

>>16609666
fuck you satan

Anonymous No. 16609671

>>16609668
you do it

Anonymous No. 16609672

>>16609478
If you fail the same way TWICE when landing on the Moon, your entire design team needs to be fired. Holy fuck.

Anonymous No. 16609674

>massive prop leak on the tower
it's over

Anonymous No. 16609675

who is this skelly tranny

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Anonymous No. 16609676

I just woke up. How did the moon landing go?

Anonymous No. 16609677

>>16609676
As usual

Anonymous No. 16609678

>>16609676
shit went sideways real fast

Anonymous No. 16609679

>>16609676
close flyby at -90 degrees attitude

Anonymous No. 16609680

>>16609676
Well, it landed.

Anonymous No. 16609681

>>16609527
HLS is big enough that most "boulders" aren't really a problem. The sheer mass of the ship will crush the rock, and the Starship is expected to have independent electrical control on the positioning of the legs to adjust in case there's an angling invariant. But for small landers with fixed legs and no option for balancing, you need use what Ingenuity did on Mars: a basic fucking camera and AI based navigation to avoid the boulders. The fact that they didn't even bother to implement this after the probe tipped over last time is incomprehensibly retarded. They KNEW the Moon doesn't have ideal flat ground to land on, and that the probability of boulders that would tip the balance is high. Intuitive Machines is Intuitively Retarded.

Anonymous No. 16609682

>>16609676
We're on the Moon!

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>>16609664
it wasn't the same issue
engine failure (Merlin 1A), harmonics and engine control issue (Merlin 1C) are all different problems

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16609684

>>16609676
why do space companies have so many cute girls working at them? you never see this many cute women irl in the US. its mostly fat ugly hippos.

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Anonymous No. 16609685

>>16609674
ITS OVER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kzdUmBIUus

Anonymous No. 16609687

GO FOR PROP LOAD

Anonymous No. 16609688

>>16609683
who tf asked bro

Anonymous No. 16609689

>>16609685
Jesus, what happened to NSF?

Anonymous No. 16609690

>>16609609
The sell off is entirely justified. Structurally incompetent to not consider the possibility that the place you're sending your landers to is inhospitable to conventional landing patterns, and that you need to basically overengineer for the possibility of everything going wrong during touch down and then over time, scaling things back as needed. They went with SpaceX's "best part is no part" by applying "best brain is no brain." Every failure is a success if the brain is smooth.

Anonymous No. 16609691

>>16609651
NASA confirmed that they don't plan to launch the experiments it had for looking for ice ever again. It was our last chance and they fucked it up

Anonymous No. 16609693

>>16609689
sold out to the streamer meta, COME ON GET HYPE

Anonymous No. 16609695

> FH8 go for prop load

Anonymous No. 16609698

>>16609671
I would but I don't know how to get the twitterx link for the OP

Anonymous No. 16609699

>>16609691
>VIPER cancelled
>IM-2 flipped
Hopefully going to a permanently shadowed crater will be a part of Artemis 3.....

Anonymous No. 16609700

I made my last hot chocolate for Wednesday's flight before it got scrubbed. Now I do not have any hot chocolate for today's flight. This is really pissing me off.

Anonymous No. 16609701

>>16609700
*makes hot chocolate for you*

Anonymous No. 16609703

>>16609670
omg its the /g/ girl that hates itoddlers

Anonymous No. 16609704

Launch day? more like... SCRUB

Anonymous No. 16609706

>>16609700
Hopefully there won't be those digit posters again. Well.... uhh... IF DIGITS THEN IT WILL BE SCRUBEBD AGAIN

Anonymous No. 16609707

>>16609704
scrub my sweaty balls

Anonymous No. 16609709

>>16609704
hold, sike, hold, scrub

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Anonymous No. 16609710

get EL creaturo off the screen already

Anonymous No. 16609711

>no fog
SOVLLESS

Anonymous No. 16609712

>>16609710
Why does he think that hair looks good?

Anonymous No. 16609713

I been strokan mah peen in preparedly for this launch. WISHING LUCK TO THE SHIP OF STARS

Anonymous No. 16609714

>nsf mods dilating at any mention of "gulf of america"

Anonymous No. 16609715

>>16609714
no politics in chat o algo

Anonymous No. 16609716

>>16609710
It should be an ITAR violation for a foreign adversary to own the leading media organization feeding propaganda and surveillance about the Starship/American space program.
Can we get a PATRIOT to do it instead? And no, its not Tim fucking Dodd. I mean a true blooded American organization.

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Anonymous No. 16609718

We will never colonise the outer Solar System. We will never go past the asteroid belt. Mars and the Moon will be the extent of human space exploration. Probes will be used to explore Alpha/Proxima Centauri. We will never go further than that.

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Anonymous No. 16609720

>>16609712
Hes a repressed tranny for sure. You can tell by the shape of the face. Very similar to the skitzo criminal face

Anonymous No. 16609721

>t minus 40 mins to starship launch
>118% board activity
It's well and truly over, isn't it?

Anonymous No. 16609722

PROP LOAD
>PROP LOAD
PROP LOAD
>PROP LOAD
PROP LOAD
>PROP LOAD
PROP LOAD
>PROP LOAD

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Anonymous No. 16609725

>>16609688
fuck off zoomer

Anonymous No. 16609727

>>16609717
that was a piece of plastic used to guide the stack
not vital or something

Anonymous No. 16609728

Resticky the leftovers on page 10, janny.

Anonymous No. 16609729

>>16609724
>is launching
will launch*

Anonymous No. 16609730

Launch ETA? My family is calling me to dinner......

Anonymous No. 16609731

>>16609718
That’s not so bad I guess. Remember that 12 men on the moon and no boots ever on mars is still a real possibility.

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Anonymous No. 16609732

Dear Baby Jesus, please can you make Elon's rocket explode? That would be so fucking funny. Thank you.

Anonymous No. 16609733

>>16609725
Oooh you so got me bro!!

Anonymous No. 16609734

>>16609718
>We will never colonise the outer Solar System
Why not? Some moons of the outer Solar System seem to be interesting and habitable assuming you can handle 0.1 gravity long term or have the ability to artificially make gravity. Also the gas giants have a lot Helium-3 for fusion, which could be the main source of energy somewhen far in the future.

Anonymous No. 16609735

>>16609732
No, Inshallah

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Anonymous No. 16609736

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1897780923581472872

VALVE ISSUES, DELAYED UNTIL TOMORROW (sike)

Anonymous No. 16609737

>>16609732
stupid frogposter, pray to adult jesus like a real person

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Anonymous No. 16609738

>>16609666

Anonymous No. 16609740

I really hope they will have different videos and new information for the pre launch stream. I don't want to hear the same again.

Anonymous No. 16609741

LAUNCH THREAD
>>16609739
>>16609739
>>16609739

Anonymous No. 16609742

>>16609371
>Saarship
you jest but starship wouldn't have been possible without H1B indians

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Anonymous No. 16609743

Tacobell is my methane
My asshole is a raptor
That was a good pre-launch shit

Anonymous No. 16609745

>>16609742
They're called GOLD now, chud

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16609749

Launch thread

>>16609748
>>16609748
>>16609748

Anonymous No. 16609753

>>16609749
delete this

Anonymous No. 16609757

>>16609749
Other one already got stickied

Anonymous No. 16609758

https://youtu.be/7CjPUDTWhJ4
MAXQUTE

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16609760

>>16609730

One hour from now or so.

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Anonymous No. 16609762

godspeed starship

Anonymous No. 16609763

>>16609758
She finally made a new thumbnail, the flight is going to be a success

Anonymous No. 16609767

>>16609758
Max-qute

Anonymous No. 16609771

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1lPKqMQbAWLKb
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1lPKqMQbAWLKb
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1lPKqMQbAWLKb

SPACEX IS LIVE

Anonymous No. 16609778

Is Kate married?

Anonymous No. 16609786

> 27 minutes to launch

Anonymous No. 16609788

dinner scarfed, family snubbed
ready for hop!

Anonymous No. 16609803

>>16609788
>Notifications: paused
>Company time: burning
Go for maxqute

Anonymous No. 16609814

how can it be that she's grown even more beautiful than earlier this week?

Anonymous No. 16609818

>>16609762
o7

Anonymous No. 16609819

>>16609814
are you talking about Clear or Starship?

Anonymous No. 16609823

>>16609819
baka

Anonymous No. 16609824

>>16609819
kate

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Anonymous No. 16609831

Dan fell off

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Anonymous No. 16609834

Elon's Cross

Anonymous No. 16609837

>>16609831
Yeah somebody needs to buy this guy an electric razor.

Anonymous No. 16609839

>>16609831
Men age like wi-ACKK

Anonymous No. 16609841

>>16609819
both

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>>16609831

Anonymous No. 16609848

>>16609844
He looks like a hobo now

Anonymous No. 16609849

>>16609844
He's floridaman-maxxing

Anonymous No. 16609853

>>16609839
He just needs to shave and use some sunscreen to stop being red, his skin looks like it's still soft and youthful.

Anonymous No. 16609863

sweaty starship-chan...
contemplate the smell

Anonymous No. 16609868

>>16609853
you are right, he's a beautiful young man with the complexion of babys bottom

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Anonymous No. 16609869

Good news I found some hot chocolate in the cupboard

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Anonymous No. 16609872

> checks for wedding ring

Anonymous No. 16609883

500k vs 2m viewers, "wdr" aka attempt 1 vs this live

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Anonymous No. 16609889

>>16609869
blessed

Anonymous No. 16609891

cute pinguine starship flaps

Anonymous No. 16609908

>>16609891
>flightless bird
not a good sign

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Anonymous No. 16609923

This better be good.

Anonymous No. 16609943

>>16609923
DO IT FOR HER

Anonymous No. 16609952

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous No. 16609953

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FFFFFFFUUUUUCK

Anonymous No. 16609956

It's over

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Anonymous No. 16609969

TRUST THE PLAN

Anonymous No. 16609975

HOLD 40

Anonymous No. 16609982

We're back

Anonymous No. 16609984

DÉCOLLAGE

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Anonymous No. 16609985

woosh

Anonymous No. 16609993

>>16609371
Is there any way for the athena IM2 mission to not be a complete failure at this point? Not even going to lie - I'm a little gambling stock faggot but it's not even about money at this point. I'd be ok with it if Athena got fucked because of some unforseen consequences. I thought that they'd at least fix their fucking shit and learn their lesson from IM1 but haha noooooooooooooo, why should they? Just gib monies plox NASA. Fuck, I'm mad.

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Anonymous No. 16610009

GLORY
>TO
THOSE
>THAT
LOOK
>FORWARD

Anonymous No. 16610012

I'm more nervous for this launch than any other

Anonymous No. 16610017

Launch tower isn't fucked, go for catch

Anonymous No. 16610020

UH OH

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Anonymous No. 16610024

See ya nigga

Anonymous No. 16610027

>2 engines dead
IT'S

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Anonymous No. 16610028

2 raptors out on boostback

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Anonymous No. 16610030

G A A N

Anonymous No. 16610035

CHAT THEY AIN'T GONNA BELIEVE THIS, TWO BOOSTERS OUT BUT STILL A CATCH

Anonymous No. 16610038

>>16610027
No big deal. They'll relight like last catch.

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Anonymous No. 16610063

oh shit shit shit

Anonymous No. 16610066

>One didn't catch

FAK

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Anonymous No. 16610071

yay

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Anonymous No. 16610080

its routine now, doesn't matter if some engines don't light

Anonymous No. 16610098

I thought the chopsticks were a dumb idea, but now I am a fan.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16610105

NOOOOOOOO
WHAT

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Anonymous No. 16610121

Fuckity shit!

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Anonymous No. 16610123

its fucked

Anonymous No. 16610128

It’s fucking over

Anonymous No. 16610133

rip Starship

Anonymous No. 16610139

NOT AGAIN

Anonymous No. 16610141

uh-oh

Anonymous No. 16610147

It's actually over

Anonymous No. 16610149

Do I remember wrong or stream numbers are lower than they used to be?

Anonymous No. 16610153

OKAY WHO THE FUCK HIT THE WRONG BUTTON? I KNOW IT WAS ONE OF YOU FAGGOTS.

Anonymous No. 16610154

thunderf00T WON

Anonymous No. 16610157

Computer, play that song from Gravity.

Anonymous No. 16610158

Would you buy a ticket to Mars from SpaceX?

Anonymous No. 16610159

Oh come on

Anonymous No. 16610160

Told you those jank mods they added to the ship wouldn't work.

Anonymous No. 16610161

the fuel readings as the thing flips around like crazy is humorous

Anonymous No. 16610165

SELL SELL SELL

Anonymous No. 16610175

Yeah -- might want to tighten up QC on Starship.

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Anonymous No. 16610176

>two tip overs in a row
>two Starship disintegrations in a row
>two jerk offs this morning in a row

Anonymous No. 16610180

I am going to kill myself

Anonymous No. 16610183

block 2s seem to be completely fucked
what the fuck happened

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Anonymous No. 16610187

Ouch another failure.

Anonymous No. 16610188

>>16610183
POGO

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16610194

NUMBERS DECIDE WHERE IT LANDS

Anonymous No. 16610196

>Lost telemetry
It's so over

Anonymous No. 16610200

SpaceX sisters....
Not like this....

Anonymous No. 16610206

Where is that pic of Elon and the crash debris???

Anonymous No. 16610208

I'm blackpilled.

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Anonymous No. 16610211

time to move on to v3

Anonymous No. 16610213

ariane 6: 2 successful orbits
starshit: 0 successful orbits
the future is here

Anonymous No. 16610216

>>16610194
Bezos' mansion

Anonymous No. 16610217

>>16610158
I could think of better ways to suicide.

Anonymous No. 16610220

on the other hand, brace for kino reentry debris

Anonymous No. 16610222

If this isn't a signal for Elon to get the fuck out of bureaucracy and back to work, I don't know what is.

Anonymous No. 16610224

>>16610194
I N D I A

Anonymous No. 16610227

they completely redid the avionics, maybe thats the problem?

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Anonymous No. 16610234

This one better had been loaded with fireworks for a more spectacular show over some island full of brown dumbfucks.

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Anonymous No. 16610235

my decision to become a rocketlab fan is paying off but I'm not happy about it

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Anonymous No. 16610236

NOT AGAIN

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Anonymous No. 16610240

What's he filming?

Anonymous No. 16610241

>>16610194
Elon’s house, checkem

Anonymous No. 16610243

>>16610183
Elon became a meme politician instead of focusing on SpaceX. It's actually over.

Anonymous No. 16610248

>>16610227
did the new avionics tell an RVAC to explode?

Anonymous No. 16610251

EUROPE 1
AMERICA -2

EUROPE IS WINNING! APOLOGIZE TO EUROPE!!

Anonymous No. 16610254

TIME TO STOP WORKING FROM HOME ELON, GET BACK IN THE OFFICE.

Anonymous No. 16610259

So what island is going to get nuked

Anonymous No. 16610260

>>16610251
Europe can never into space.

Anonymous No. 16610261

>>16610213
It would be hilarious if ESA and Chinks catch up.

Anonymous No. 16610265

>>16610240
supposed to be happy reactions for another promo vid

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Anonymous No. 16610266

Time for more reentry footage

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Anonymous No. 16610267

Anonymous No. 16610268

are there videos of the reentry yet?

Anonymous No. 16610269

New Glenn on Super Heavy.

it started as a joke....

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Anonymous No. 16610272

usa usa usa?

Anonymous No. 16610274

>>16610267
>JUST

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Anonymous No. 16610277

This is Ground Control to Major Tom

Anonymous No. 16610279

>>16610267
Tice gets sexier every stream. OMG...

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Anonymous No. 16610281

Anonymous No. 16610282

>ship catch attempt postponed again
I'm getting blueballed hard

Anonymous No. 16610286

>>16610269
>>16610272
Fucking hell she's so beautiful

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Anonymous No. 16610289

>>16610235
Why not? Elon is deserving all this failure for acting like a complete retard.

Next one is going to blow up the tower.

Anonymous No. 16610294

>we're gonna get a ship to mars
>time passes
>we're gonna get a ship to moon
>time passes
>w-we're totally gonna get a shit to sspace...

Anonymous No. 16610297

a few more iterations and we'll be back to ift-5!

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>>16610269
its going to happen....

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Anonymous No. 16610301

Post debris fireworks.

Anonymous No. 16610305

>>16610261
Apples with oranges.
The point of starship is to be reusable, ariane6 was never designed for that.

Anonymous No. 16610307

>>16610236
this actually goes hard.

Anonymous No. 16610308

this is kind of retarded

Anonymous No. 16610311

>>16610305
At this point, Starship can't even reach orbit

Anonymous No. 16610316

>>16610261
The Chinese will catch up, the Euros will continue to be their own worst enemy

Anonymous No. 16610317

>goes all in on politics to get the FAA off his back
>now the ship can't even get it up (to orbit)
the most ironic outcome is the most likely isn't that right elon?

Anonymous No. 16610320

>>16610305
>The point of starship is to be reusable

Yeah about that...

Anonymous No. 16610323

>>16610305
the point of ariane 6 is to be useable, which puts it ahead of starship

Anonymous No. 16610327

THREAD THEME
THREAD THEME
THREAD THEME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kguaGI7aZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kguaGI7aZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kguaGI7aZg

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Anonymous No. 16610330

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1897794299384807486

inb4 interstellar edits

Anonymous No. 16610331

>>16610305
the point of any rocket is to be USED
saarshit is a long long long possible infinite way away from that

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Anonymous No. 16610337

Launches were more successful when a Democrat was in the White House.

Anonymous No. 16610339

the most important payload which was lost on this flight was data

Anonymous No. 16610344

I'm losing my faith in starship bros, next one will make it, right?

Anonymous No. 16610346

Reentry videos are coming in
https://x.com/NStewWX/status/1897795175633592384

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Anonymous No. 16610349

EAGER BROS...
https://x.com/eager_space/status/1897796227103686732

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Anonymous No. 16610350

can you fix v2?
just move on to v3?

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Anonymous No. 16610351

Lisan al Gaib!

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Anonymous No. 16610352

>https://x.com/davidaj_fh/status/1897795271167250832
SHIP RE-ENTRY OVER MIAMI

Anonymous No. 16610354

>>16610346
expect most of these to be fake for a while

Anonymous No. 16610355

Fuck twitter fuck X whatever you want to call it. FUCK IT.
People are posting footage of the breakup but X SUCKS MAJOR ASSHOLE as a video streaming service so it’s just 144p pixelated GARBAGE

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Anonymous No. 16610357

I agree with based Casey, when are we going to launch east from Vandenburg
basically all inclinations are accessible without overflight of cities

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Anonymous No. 16610361

FUCK V2

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Anonymous No. 16610373

Anonymous No. 16610378

>>16610352
No way, that's the Starship, it should be way past Florida at 20,000 km/h

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Anonymous No. 16610386

We're back to this it feels like.

Anonymous No. 16610390

it landed in the florida area https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1j59qt5/starship_from_my_house_in_orlando/

Anonymous No. 16610391

/Sad Flights General/

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Anonymous No. 16610394

>>16610357
worst possible time to post this at

Anonymous No. 16610398

Is this rapid destruction, eh, supposed to, lead to, a manned mars mission?

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Anonymous No. 16610406

Is Elon gonna reimburse all that jetfuel?

Anonymous No. 16610407

>>16610357
*scatters debris all over new mexico*

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Anonymous No. 16610409

KINO

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>>16610398
At this point it's getting delayed by years.

They are still nowhere near getting the actually hard parts right.

Anonymous No. 16610412

>>16610398
No it’s supposed to lead to a 10 year delay for the Artemis program

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Anonymous No. 16610414

>https://x.com/MrGilyard/status/1897796482129908152
Looks like it was visible from Florida

Anonymous No. 16610418

there is quite literally no way to sugarcoat this

Anonymous No. 16610419

>>16610398
Yes, the fine astronaut organic particles scattered evenly across the martian surface will help organics to grow and produce oxygen to bring about the new martian atmosphere.

Anonymous No. 16610423

sir a second ship has hit the ocean

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Anonymous No. 16610426

>>16610418
Yeah this is a disaster.

Anonymous No. 16610427

> It is also speculative, but the call out for "vehicle safed" suggests SpaceX & FAA did revise the conditions for activating the FTS, so the IIP was likely tracking somewhere into the open ocean? We should be getting some visuals from people downrange confirming entry of SS as a single piece, vsi thousands of pieces as on F7.

One big piece of debris instead of thousands of tiny pieces. Guess that's progress.

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Anonymous No. 16610428

>Super Heavy relights its engines multiple times and sticks the catch
>Ship shits itself during a single burn
What's their problem?

Anonymous No. 16610429

>>16610418
Yup. Time to stop working from home, Mr. Musk.

Anonymous No. 16610432

>>16610391
good one

Anonymous No. 16610434

I'm not seeing them launching anything to Mars during the next window at this rate

Anonymous No. 16610435

I am now convinced that even if the FAA gave SpaceX some kind of hypothetical “infinite launch” license, they’d still be exactly where they are at today.
The problem wasn’t the FAA. It wasn’t regulation. The bottleneck is SpaceX themselves.

Anonymous No. 16610436

>>16610409
My God, Bones. What have I done?

Anonymous No. 16610437

>>16610418
Time to get the fuck out of Do(d)ge and focus on the mission.

Anonymous No. 16610438

>>16610428
They have a lot of work to do on vibrations. This is likely the same fucking issue as previous flight on this jank block of starship, only kicked slightly further down the flight than first.

Anonymous No. 16610441

>>16610434
Moon program is also fucked. No way this is getting rated for human flight any time soon.

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Anonymous No. 16610445

This whole spaceflight thing isn't working out. It's time for man to return to the simple things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_03FWDBZG0

Anonymous No. 16610446

ShartX needs to be nationalized.

Anonymous No. 16610450

elon's going to save SLS at this rate

Anonymous No. 16610451

>>16610411

They had Starship v1 reentering to splash down. Something is effed in v2 that's making it rudd before orbit.

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Anonymous No. 16610455

https://www.twitch.tv/tpain/clip/TemperedIgnorantHeronOSfrog-aowJ27rcgpBY8mlU

Anonymous No. 16610456

>>16610438
just go back to V1 downcomer those worked every single time

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Anonymous No. 16610457

https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1897795136056442923

Anonymous No. 16610459

>fucked up moon lander
>fucked up human moon lander
This is the leading nation in spaceflight btw. This is as good as it gets. We suck as a species

Anonymous No. 16610460

>>16610435
They managed to copy the parts Falcon 9 already perfected just at bigger scale, but can't do the new stuff right.

The #1 issue is still heat tiles and they are not even making progress there.

Anonymous No. 16610461

FUCK
SLS does not look that bad now

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Anonymous No. 16610467

>>16610459
meanwhile europ:
>another success

Anonymous No. 16610468

>>16610463
literally no one cares. SuperHeavy at least works
(until they move on to the next block and it fucks up as well)

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Anonymous No. 16610471

If I was China I'd just copy the Super Heavy with rest not being reusable. Starship is not going to work.

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Anonymous No. 16610472

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1897795895393181875

Anonymous No. 16610473

that tower catch was super sketchy
or was it the camera angle?
idk

Anonymous No. 16610475

Whoever the project manager is for the booster is probably secretly feeling pretty smug right now.

Anonymous No. 16610478

>>16610473
I think a bit of both
>>16610463

Anonymous No. 16610479

It's the leak again, isn't it?
Should have waited for that FAA investigation to finish

Anonymous No. 16610481

>>16610455
I wonder if he caught the full re-entry, would be hilarious if his footage was the best to analyze

Anonymous No. 16610483

it looks like its still tumbling as it fell through the atmosphere
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1897795043290746880/vid/avc1/720x1280/tBbTPT3gsz8xnYnO.mp4

Anonymous No. 16610485

was pressurefed/thunderf00t right?

Anonymous No. 16610486

hey guys I just woke up and was trying to find footage of IM-2 and flight 8, but I can only seem to find IM-1 and flight 7
where is the new stuff?

Anonymous No. 16610487

>>16610470
My question is why didn’t the flight computer have the wherewithal to say
>oh fuck, some engines just died and I’m going into an unbalanced force spin. Better shut these engines down
I’m not an expert when can accept that I may be wrong—but this looks like jeet coding to me

Anonymous No. 16610488

>>16610470
Mr. Musk's wild ride.

Anonymous No. 16610494

>>16610442
>altitude:50 km
incredible cameras

Anonymous No. 16610497

Fuck it: just put a F9 second stage and a Dragon on top of SH

Anonymous No. 16610501

>>16610494
superheavy's just really big and really easy to see compared to everything else

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Anonymous No. 16610502

>>16610470
>>16610488

Anonymous No. 16610503

>>16610485
Who?

Anonymous No. 16610505

Gulf of drowned muskrat

Anonymous No. 16610507

Let that sink in

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Anonymous No. 16610508

Definitely another fire in the aft section. It looks like one of the vac engines had some damage happen after stage sep cause there's damage present at 7:47 that isn't there at 3:52

Anonymous No. 16610510

>>16610470
>11s in puffs.
Poof goes the fuel lines/raptors.

Anonymous No. 16610513

>>16610494
There's these boomers in Florida that sometimes film launches and they basically use 2 giant telescopes as binoculars for their camera, on a WW2 naval anti-air turret mount

Anonymous No. 16610516

https://kick.com/wvagabond/clips/clip_01JNPXETMPHAN0Y6DXJZ4XH7V6

Anonymous No. 16610518

>>16610508
Could you make it smaller?

Anonymous No. 16610519

>>16610508
https://x.com/jackywacky_3/status/1897796181478027470
Engine blew up, probably took others with it

Anonymous No. 16610520

>>16610473
All of the catches and booster landings are sketchy as fuck, suicide burns are just insane to watch

Anonymous No. 16610521

>>16610485
I'm more worried about the feasibility of rapid reuse of the heatshield part. This failure is completely tractable.

Anonymous No. 16610524

>>16610508
>553x273
anon...

Anonymous No. 16610525

>>16610521
>This failure is completely tractable.
IT HAPPENED TWICE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous No. 16610529

>>16610508
It looks like a specific part of the engine that started glowing. You can see the same thing on the other engine to the right.

Anonymous No. 16610530

>>16610521
then why aren't they tracting it?

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Anonymous No. 16610532

>IM-2 failed in the same way that IM-1 failed
>IFT-8 failed in the same way that IFT-7 failed
poetry

Anonymous No. 16610533

>>16610519
Nice spot

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Anonymous No. 16610538

>>16610508
Something definitely fell off the engine at some point

>>16610518
>>16610524
I took some screenshots from discord and I'm too lazy to go find the actual timestamp on the stream

Anonymous No. 16610539

>>16610519
yikes

Anonymous No. 16610543

>shit day in us spaceflight
Thanks Trump.

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Anonymous No. 16610549

>>16610538
the camera is engulfed in flames as well, there is an orange hue

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Anonymous No. 16610550

>>16610513
As does the DoD

Anonymous No. 16610555

>>16610470
just realized the moon was in shot on the first spin, kino

Anonymous No. 16610559

>>16610525
Thrice actually

Anonymous No. 16610561

SPACE IS HARD BROS, I BET IT WAS A CANADIAN SABOTEUR

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Anonymous No. 16610562

>>16610470
Sure looks like one of the vacuum raptors grenaded and took the other engines with it, you can even see some pipe burning on one of the vacuums earlier

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Anonymous No. 16610564

It’s so over it’s unreal

Anonymous No. 16610565

>>16610550
yeah but the boomer one has a chair

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Anonymous No. 16610566

When it rains it pours
>inb4 Escapade is cancelled

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Anonymous No. 16610567

GOES-16 SAT CAPTURE

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Anonymous No. 16610568

raptor 3 will fix this

Anonymous No. 16610569

>>16610564
ESA won. China won.

Anonymous No. 16610570

>>16610520
Booster is capable of hovering unlike F9. Obviously they don't want to spend much time doing that due to fuel burn.

Anonymous No. 16610571

>>16610564
is it gonna be more fake news about nasa layoffs that didn't happen?

Anonymous No. 16610575

>>16610571
kek

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Anonymous No. 16610577

Euro Gods
I kneel

Anonymous No. 16610578

>>16610567
>-A- (too quick for full ack)

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Anonymous No. 16610583

Elon better take notes on how to actually build a rocket

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Anonymous No. 16610584

>https://x.com/John_Winkopp/status/1897798335336980961
At least it's kino

Anonymous No. 16610585

>>16610564
That's just gonna be some shit startups calling it quits.

Anonymous No. 16610587

>>16610568
Seeing as it's vibrations, they got bigger issues than just raptor reliability.

Anonymous No. 16610588

Maybe there is such thing as iterating too fast

Anonymous No. 16610592

so when is the next starship launch?

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Anonymous No. 16610595

why is truthful so optimistic

Anonymous No. 16610597

>>16610592
August

Anonymous No. 16610598

>>16610595
this chinky leaf knows if he keeps a positive attitude he’ll get more engagement from Elon

Anonymous No. 16610599

>>16610592
january

Anonymous No. 16610601

>>16610562
>the chilled CH4 pumped through the engine bells to keep them cool ignited
Hasn't this only happened like once or twice? It nearly happened on the shuttle iirc.

Anonymous No. 16610602

>>16610595
tfw no anime bf

Anonymous No. 16610605

Speaking of FAA, you think they'll ground them?

Anonymous No. 16610606

>>16610592
2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16610608

>IM GONNA INVESTIGATE OOOOOOO IM INVESTIGATOOOOOOOOONG

Anonymous No. 16610609

F

Anonymous No. 16610610

>>16610587
Raptor 3 is so beautiful, it will imbue the rest of Starship with success.

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Anonymous No. 16610613

i'm starting to lose some hope anons...

Anonymous No. 16610614

>>16610605
they didn’t last time so, no. The license will be fine. SpaceX just have their hands up their ass and don’t know what to do right now

Anonymous No. 16610617

>>16610595
Those people really don't understand that getting this thing through the atmosphere is 100x harder than anything they did before.

Anonymous No. 16610618

>>16610610
>inb4 it causes the ship to RUD on the launch pad

Anonymous No. 16610620

>>16610595
because that would be funny

Anonymous No. 16610624

>>16610617
bro they can't even get to SECO

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Anonymous No. 16610625

not much to look forward to

Anonymous No. 16610626

seems weird that the gimbal engines are so tough but the basic vacuum engines cause so many problems

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Anonymous No. 16610628

>>16610513
The early ones were converted from anti-air turrets, but they're purpose made these days. Though the design is still pretty similar.

Anonymous No. 16610629

>>16610610
Fuck Raptor 3 we need to go back to Raptor 2.0

Anonymous No. 16610632

>>16610617
That’s literally the whole point you retard, they can’t make SECO

Anonymous No. 16610634

I have completely lost interest frankly.

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Anonymous No. 16610635

>>16610625
wait wait, march 15th coming through

Anonymous No. 16610637

>>16610629
These are all raptor 2s. I don't think they've launched any 3's

Anonymous No. 16610639

How do the Raptors keep getting LESS reliable?

Anonymous No. 16610643

can we go back to starship v1 or did elon throw away the blueprints?

Anonymous No. 16610644

Literally all they had to do was survive one more minute and we would see a landing. Fucking retarded company

Anonymous No. 16610647

>>16610643
we lost the technology

Anonymous No. 16610652

>>16610639
Build rates will increase until quality improves.

Anonymous No. 16610654

>>16610639
Too much minmaxxing on hardware and/or work force talent

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Anonymous No. 16610655

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1897803612098900131

Anonymous No. 16610657

>>16610639
all the good engineers flee to other space companies since they are more chill. nobody wants to work in a pressure cooker their whole lives.

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Anonymous No. 16610658

Death spiral

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Anonymous No. 16610661

>>16610595
Because to Starship watchers this is nothing new. It's a minor setback.

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Anonymous No. 16610662

remember what they took from you

Anonymous No. 16610663

>>16610639
I'm wondering if maybe this had something to do with the extended ground test of the engines on the ship because it was definitely a vac engine that exploded and those aren't meant to be lit in atmospheric pressure. Maybe something got damaged and they didn't notice due to the schedule? Or inb4 it was due to the minor collision with the hot stage ring yesterday.

Anonymous No. 16610664

>>16610637
They are not Raptor 2s they are Raptor 2.5s, aka leaky explody boys

Anonymous No. 16610668

>>16610658
Lol

Anonymous No. 16610670

>>16610605
I think it is time to ground them until they sort their shit

Anonymous No. 16610671

>>16610657
Kate is a good engineer, she'll get to the bottom of this.

Anonymous No. 16610673

>>16610568
weren't they supposed to fix the leaks?

Anonymous No. 16610675

Nationalize ScamX, woman president NOW

Anonymous No. 16610676

>>16610634
I'm starting to feel like I should just come back in 6 months when they start to make actual progress. Like, what have we got to look forward to in the next 12 months? More of the same booster catches and ship re-entries? Maybe ship catching? Maaaaybe block 2 booster?

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Anonymous No. 16610677

Miss me yet?

Anonymous No. 16610678

Some times the best part is not no part, but the one that doesn't explode.

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Anonymous No. 16610679

>V2 is over 300 tons heavier, so the staging happens earlier and TWR drops to 0.88
>Raptors have to work harder to get vehicle to orbit
>Raptor 2 and its piping systems are extremely susceptible to leaks when operating at full power (that apparently hasn't been fixed yet)
SpaceX has a big problem

Anonymous No. 16610681

do we have a flight test 8 image?

Anonymous No. 16610682

>>16610663
This, I recall they have to put a special ring device on the vacs so that the bell doesn't get destroyed during static fires, they probably damaged it during the long static fire

Anonymous No. 16610683

>>16608026
>>16608026
>>16608026
>>16608026
>>16608026

AS I SAID

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Anonymous No. 16610686

gas leaking into the engine bay

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yNGaLDlwrDKj

Anonymous No. 16610688

>>16610677
We have a valve problem, Mr. Mueller. Please proceed to the local public bathroom to assist!

Anonymous No. 16610689

>>16610626
They have those big flimsy bells

Anonymous No. 16610691

they'll HAVE to refly a booster on the next mission in order to maintain hype

Anonymous No. 16610693

>>16610688
seems more like a seal problem

Anonymous No. 16610694

>>16610679
>Raptor 2 ... apparently hasn't been fixed yet
Raptor 3 will fix this

Anonymous No. 16610695

>On 7 September 2024, SpaceX announced that it would launch the first uncrewed Starship missions to Mars in two years, aligning with the next Earth-Mars transfer window. Elon Musk shared on the social media platform X that these missions would focus on testing the reliability of landing Starships intact on Mars. SpaceX plans to launch five uncrewed Starships to Mars during that transfer window.[17] If successful, the company plans to begin crewed flights to Mars in about four years.[18]

Anonymous No. 16610696

Neutron > Starshit

Anonymous No. 16610697

Bunch of flights diverting to alternates or returning to origin kek

Anonymous No. 16610698

>>16610691
Nah why do something interesting when you can just refly the same mission profile for the millionth time?

Anonymous No. 16610700

>>16609666
lol, what did i tell you guys

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Anonymous No. 16610701

>>16610693
Payback's a bitch.

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Anonymous No. 16610702

https://x.com/jackywacky_3/status/1897796181478027470

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Anonymous No. 16610705

It never even began.

Anonymous No. 16610706

Literally worse than last flight. Holy shit

Anonymous No. 16610708

How is it NASA can stop hydrogen molecules from leaking but Muskrat can't stop methane from leaking?

Anonymous No. 16610710

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU

SPIN ME AROUND

Anonymous No. 16610711

elon's gonna have to announce a newer and even skinner starship v4 to fix all the problems they're finding

Anonymous No. 16610712

Well, there it goes the highlight of my week. Now, back to my shitty life.

Anonymous No. 16610713

>>16610708
That's what he gets for pushing his engines above 300 bar

Anonymous No. 16610714

Pls explain, why did the hop campaign feel fun and iterative but recent flights have felt stagnate and sloppy?

Anonymous No. 16610715

>>16609923
>>16609872
imagine fucking her throat while she tries to retain composure for the webcast

Anonymous No. 16610717

>all the graphics cards were scalped
>the lunar lander fell over
>starship blew up
everything went wrong, fuck today

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Anonymous No. 16610718

https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1897805456698917082

Anonymous No. 16610721

>>16610626
Leak was coming from the center engines.

Anonymous No. 16610722

>>16610711
Elon is going to announce skin in the game and the VP of raptor flies on the next Starship.

Anonymous No. 16610724

>>16610337
yeah but we had less of them

Anonymous No. 16610726

overheating in a vacuum
issue prolly already solved in raptor 3's

Anonymous No. 16610728

>>16610718
ginormous if true

Anonymous No. 16610733

Bloody basterd musk fix the rockat you mother fuck

Anonymous No. 16610735

Being a spaceflight fan is just suffering at this point. I should get another hobby

Anonymous No. 16610736

They messed up the harmonics of the ship with the new version, everything in that skirt leaks

Anonymous No. 16610738

>>16610390
it came down between Turks and Caicos and the Dominican Republic

Anonymous No. 16610739

>>16610595
I just looked at the Falcon 9 history and thought i would see one fail after the other, but it took over 20 flights before it failed to get to orbit.
They had 6 V1 Starship test flights and one failed V2 test flights and anticipated to do a Ship catch in the next flight, yet the failed to test their heatshields which they said was the main objective of this flight. There is something really wrong with the Starship developement.

Anonymous No. 16610740

>>16610718
First engine failure
07:39 for Flight 7
08:04 for Flight 8

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Anonymous No. 16610741

>>16610726
>vacuum engine
>doesn't work in vacuum

Anonymous No. 16610742

>>16610407
>>16610394
what if that's what I want

Anonymous No. 16610744

>>16610736
rocket is too wide. I told you chuds it needs to be thinner.

Anonymous No. 16610745

>>16610736
Melkor singing a different tune

Anonymous No. 16610747

>>16610741
You could say it sucks.

Anonymous No. 16610748

Is this what boomers felt when they were seeing Shuttle fail miserably at every single of it's design goals?

Anonymous No. 16610749

>>16610736
It's not that easy in harmonicery

Anonymous No. 16610751

>>16610658
>>16610659
That's amazing. Is this what a supernova would look like?

Anonymous No. 16610752

>>16610714
Because the FAA didn't delay the fuck out of a test every time something went wrong.

They have to build a new Starship, a new Booster, test them both for issues for about a month, and then wait another week on their hands and knees for the FAA approval. And then do it all over again when the vehicle leaks. The SN tests were fun because SpaceX would launch tin cans in the air and watch them explode and it wouldn't matter because the tempo always stayed the same.

Now we watch the fat retarded incompetent incel spend a goddamn month working on this bigass rocket only for it to do the same fucking thing over and over again. It isn't worth it like it used to be. It isn't fun, just aggravating that there is zero progress EVER

Anonymous No. 16610753

>>16610748
What? No. Shuttle did its job. Limp to LEO while optimizing jobs

Anonymous No. 16610754

>>16610414
How are people still so fucking clueless

Anonymous No. 16610756

https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1897795080221544876
>YAAHHHH watching elon musk fire another 300mn dollars of us taxpayer money into the gulf of starship.... and wreckage in ... 3.... 2.....1 ... and.......
i hate him so much

Anonymous No. 16610757

>>16610736
Is there any saving V2? Can harmonics be un-fucked with minor adjustments?

Anonymous No. 16610758

>>16610752
Musk claims he isn’t spread thin but I think he is. And even if he’s not, mentally and physically, he still owes it to himself to take a step back from DOGE and perhaps even Tesla (he claims tesla occupies most of his time) and FOCUS ON STARSHIP

Anonymous No. 16610759

>>16610748
Shuttle worked fine until blowing up that hooker one time. Starshit doesnt even make it to orbit

Anonymous No. 16610762

Should have shut down the 2 remaining vacuums the moment the other 4 went out instead of letting them burn for a minute on camera.
That was a very dangerous situation since the asymetrical thrust and the tumbling can potentially change the trajectory and make it pass straight over some caribean country.

Anonymous No. 16610764

>>16610756
rare thunderCHAD w

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Anonymous No. 16610765

https://x.com/edwards345/status/1897806963658088684

Anonymous No. 16610766

Shotwell should fire 10% of the workforce and threaten another 10% layoff if there is another failure of this magnitude next flight

Anonymous No. 16610767

>>16610757
switch to 18m diameter.

Anonymous No. 16610768

>>16610712
yeah, same

Anonymous No. 16610770

>>16610766
decimate the workforce every time there is a failure

Anonymous No. 16610772

>>16610766
You can only decimate the workforce so many times...

Anonymous No. 16610773

>>16610756
>Entire Starship stack costs 300 million usd
source?

Anonymous No. 16610775

>>16610758
All those are darpa projects he's just the public face.

Anonymous No. 16610776

>>16610765
>after falcon 1 flight 3
hidden diss,
showing just how down BAD we really are.
its flight 9 next with no orbit.... FLIGHT 9999

Anonymous No. 16610777

Okay wait wtf just saw “an astronaut” stripping on a houston flight. Who was it??

Anonymous No. 16610778

>>16610758
I think he's minmaxing Raptor too quickly. Instead of boosting the pressure of Raptor they should have switched to using 6 weaker but stable RVac engines. Then eventually after we have gone to the moon and shit he can gradually ramp up the pressure back to the target until he gets them to stop exploding. All he is doing is delaying everything by trying to make the most perfect rocket that utilizes the "strongest and most efficient thrust ever." He needs to chill the fuck out and focus on straining Raptor later and get this thing into orbit so it can do the refueling tests and put Starlinks in orbit. His priorities are backwards

Anonymous No. 16610779

its fine, I'm already over the failure
just fix it and move on

Anonymous No. 16610781

>>16610779
This nigga experienced all seven stages of grief in like an hour

Anonymous No. 16610782

>>16610779
There is no fix except Raptor 3. He tried everything else, it didn't work, it still leaked

Anonymous No. 16610783

>>16610778
this can't be real, nobody can believe these rockets are ever going to the moon or mars

Anonymous No. 16610785

>>16610783
Unless you want to wait 30 years to see us land on something that isn't earth, Starship is the only option.

Stoke isn't ready
Peter isn't ready
Bald jewish man isn't ready
NASA would bankrupt the fucking universe if they tried

Anonymous No. 16610787

ThunderG0DS WON

Anonymous No. 16610788

>>16610778
?
Everything works fine in static fires on Earth
They should be able to test the vibration of launch on Earth too

Anonymous No. 16610790

>>16610785
that's exactly what will happen though

Anonymous No. 16610792

>>16610778
>All he is doing is delaying everything by trying to make the most perfect rocket that utilizes the "strongest and most efficient thrust ever."

Fucking this, this was my worry when I saw how obsessively he was chasing Raptor perfection when the engines are already good enough to do basic operational flight, that this would end up hampering getting Starship up and running and it is, fuck

Anonymous No. 16610794

>>16610788
>works fine in static fires on Earth
Not in space it doesn't. It leaks and pisses and explodes all over the place. You just watched it happen

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Anonymous No. 16610795

>Still can't be dethroned
Impressive, to be honest

Anonymous No. 16610798

>>16610788
Not a flight environment, clearly something happens at 145km and after hotstaging that fucks up the Raptors

Anonymous No. 16610800

Are we beginning to bump the ceiling of the "break things fast" philosophy?

Anonymous No. 16610801

>>16610683
Yeah, this "block" or whatever the fuck they want to call this jank is just not it.

Anonymous No. 16610802

>>16610795
Fuck everyone involved in canceling Saturn V and keeping us stuck in LEO for..... 50 something years so far

Anonymous No. 16610803

>>16610792
Like I said, just add the three extra engines already and lower the power

Ol' Musky I know you lurk this board

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Anonymous No. 16610805

https://bsky.app/profile/kateconger.com/post/3ljaollbus22h

Anonymous No. 16610807

>>16610778
Yup. It was impressive and exciting seeing musk tweet out new random milestones like 300 bar, new insane thrust records, etc. But I think he needs to fuck off and give raptor the “merlin treatment” only after he can get the thing working.
Starship simply has too many critical design milestones that need testing and like 90% of them require actually getting to orbit safely. That has yet to be seen

Anonymous No. 16610809

>>16610788
Their fixes from last test only kicked the problem further along in the flight.

Anonymous No. 16610810

>>16610802
Saturn V was literally cheaper and more capable than Shuttle. Cancelling it was a sin

Anonymous No. 16610811

>>16610800
Yes, they need to do suborbital hops with Starship up over the Gulf of America until they figure out what the fuck goes wrong with it at ~140km, that way the flight path doesn't threaten several island nations and require major airspace shutdowns and slows everything down

Anonymous No. 16610812

There's only so much stuff you can skip because "it just works" when you're still in experimental stages and each stack has something different about it, the first scrub was the perfect example of them getting way too comfortable with skipping some procedures like WDR which can still reveal issues.

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Anonymous No. 16610813

>>16610805

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Anonymous No. 16610816

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1897810082001568019

the lens is covered with orange haze at the later clip (there are two short clips joined together)

Anonymous No. 16610818

>>16610805
Ive seen enough, this faggot needs to get to work at boca chica and fuck off from the goverment. Install Jared as administrator, make sure Trump gets a good guy on the FAA, and just fuck off back to starbase. This shit needs to get sorted out now or USA and China will be fighting neck and neck to return to the moon in 2060 after decades of delays

Anonymous No. 16610819

>>16610758
Musk spending a single minute on Tesla is absurd. He needs to stop and focus on rockets.

Anonymous No. 16610820

>>16610800
Not really, these are test vehicles that would be scrapped anyways
Obviously means they aren't able to test reentry which is a key part of this whole thing but
whatever

Anonymous No. 16610821

>>16610811
What's wrong is they are trying to cram methane at a gorillion PSI into an engine without it going out the wrong hole. Raptor is too high bar

Anonymous No. 16610823

>>16610445
we peaked here

Anonymous No. 16610824

>>16610812
>WDR
V3 is already a future. Who cares. Let it rip

Anonymous No. 16610826

Tough crowd today. You guys used to joke about ULA snipers and bezos sabotage. Now its all finger pointing directly at SpaceX. The whimsy? Simply gone

Anonymous No. 16610828

>>16610821
Probably an overheating in a vacuum issue + getting the shit shaken out of it, you can't test on Earth

Anonymous No. 16610830

>>16610826
Failures used to mean lessons were being learned. Now it seems it is simply incompetence.

Anonymous No. 16610831

>>16610826
It was hit by a Canadian ASAT missile

Anonymous No. 16610832

>>16610826
Cause it happened before already just 2 months ago

Anonymous No. 16610833

>>16610807
Yep, and still not being able to demonstrate orbital and refueling capabilities at March of 2025 is not good. The engines can be perfected later, now is not the time

Anonymous No. 16610834

>>16610778
I said months ago in here that SpaceX should focus on making SSSH operational first before bothering with recovering and reuse. I still believe this is the better way forward. Getting Starship into orbit reliably and deliver meaningful payload should be the only target right now.

Anonymous No. 16610835

>>16610826
I just want to see the damn thing in orbit man

Anonymous No. 16610838

>>16610807
>Starship simply has too many critical design milestones that need testing and like 90% of them require actually getting to orbit safely. That has yet to be seen
THIIISSS

What's with all the Raptor focus, Raptor is not the full ship

Anonymous No. 16610840

>>16610838
Raptor 3 will fix this

Anonymous No. 16610841

>>16610828
>overheating
Doubt it. Gases were leaking out of places they shouldn't moments before the engine detonated. Shit is just too high pressure for those shitty joints to handle. Those engines are probably screaming trying not to automatically unscrew themselves from Starship's ass every ignition

Anonymous No. 16610842

>>16610826
Now we're interested in figuring out wtf is going wrong because we want to see Starship succeed more than we wanna make jokes about it

Anonymous No. 16610844

>>16610782
Can't they put Raptor 2 in a steel condom and weld it shut?

Anonymous No. 16610845

>>16610826
two (looking like) identical failures back to back is kind of bad

Anonymous No. 16610848

>>16610826
Doing the same error twice in a row is incompetence, simple as is

Anonymous No. 16610852

The worst part is thunderf00t now has a solid case for missed time tables

Anonymous No. 16610855

airplane tracker status? where are my hold circles 3 seconds after attitude loss

Anonymous No. 16610856

>>16610840
Raptor 3 cannot interface with the current ships is the problem. We are trapped with the shitty Raptor 2.5s

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Anonymous No. 16610857

>>16610826

Anonymous No. 16610858

>>16610758
>Musk claims he isn’t spread thin but I think he is
He's wearing a fucking bullet proof vest everywhere he goes nowadays.

Anonymous No. 16610863

>>16610858
Yeah cause there's so much starship orbital debris raining down

Anonymous No. 16610864

>>16610856
SpaceX just needs to blow up the rest of the current ships so they can start building new ships with Raptor 3 (which will fix this.)

Anonymous No. 16610865

>>16610446
good news - it essentially now is!
bad news - its still musk

Anonymous No. 16610866

We need Musk V2, improved performance, less adhd

Anonymous No. 16610867

>>16610864
Best case scenario is that the next flight (which will inevitably end in failure) will feature the Booster heading way off course directly into the V2 storage warehouse

Anonymous No. 16610868

>>16610826
there was a few jokes earlier. Everyone's frustrated. I mean we're already 1/6 of the way through the year and we had two failures. "Learning" my ass, this is probably going to be the same fucking fuel line as last time. Pathetic

Anonymous No. 16610869

>>16610865
>it essentially now is!
kek, lefties got monkey pawed

Anonymous No. 16610870

>>16610835
I don't even care until the ship lands. Which means even if Musk finally pulls his shit together for IFT9 I will still have to wait for IFT10 for my dopamine hit.

Nothing can progress until the ship lands on the tower. Once that happens nobody will ever have to worry about ships/boosters exploding or stupid delays ever again. It will be a golden age of space kino and rapid reflights. The fact that we are regressing and making it less far into space each time is unbearable

Anonymous No. 16610871

>>16610865
>>16610869
Actually lol'd

Anonymous No. 16610872

Another laughing stock on Elon Cuck. Good. Keep 'em going

Anonymous No. 16610873

FUCK

Anonymous No. 16610874

>>16610679
>V2 is over 300 tons heavier
please say this isn't true

Anonymous No. 16610875

>>16610446
Maybe DOGE can take it over

Anonymous No. 16610877

>IFT 7
>First Raptor dies exactly 5 minutes after ignition
>do 1 minute static fire
>k so it was harmonics
>it's definitely fixed now
>IFT 8
>Raptor shits itself 5 minutes and 25 seconds after ignition
Great job SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16610878

>>16610873
please, no profanity

Anonymous No. 16610879

Surely they can just launch another one soon? Musk took over the FAA just for this right?

Anonymous No. 16610880

>>16610867
Elon isn't smart enough to downgrade or upgrade the booster. He is stubborn. He will come out with a tweet 20 minutes from now saying something along the lines of
>HURRDURR WE HAD ANOTHER LEAK WITH RAPTOR 2.5 GUYZ, THIS TIME WE WILL ADD EVEN BIGGER VENTS AND EVEN MORE FIRE SUPPRESSION IN ORBIT. 42069 BTW I AM LE MEME LORD XDDDDDD

Anonymous No. 16610881

The silver lining here is that catching a flyback super heavy lift rocket booster stage with a tower featuring giant catching arms has suddenly become boring and routine

Anonymous No. 16610884

>>16610881
I thought that was what would give SpaceX the most trouble, not the second stage jesus christ

Anonymous No. 16610886

>>16610879
1 or 1.5 month delay mostly likely

Anonymous No. 16610887

>>16610884
Same lol

Anonymous No. 16610890

>>16610880
10 minutes later he'll be back to blaming biden and whining at some minor celebrity again...

Anonymous No. 16610891

>>16610879
There's no point in launching again until they redesign the whole thrust section of the ship or do some throttle profile wizardry so that the whole thing doesn't shake itself apart

Anonymous No. 16610893

>>16610884
It's not that easy in notleakinghighpressuremethanetry

Anonymous No. 16610895

Privatize SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16610897

SpaceX, where the hard is easy and easy is hard!

Anonymous No. 16610898

>>16610879
S35 looks nearly completed and ready to begin cryotesting but it probably needs modification now

Anonymous No. 16610900

https://x.com/Blobifie/status/1897701208686837765

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Anonymous No. 16610902

Anonymous No. 16610903

Hmmm, so this is how it feels to be a Euro or a Jap or a POCKOCMOC fan...

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Anonymous No. 16610904

>>16610819

Anonymous No. 16610905

>>16610870
>Nothing can progress until the ship lands on the tower.
Nothing can progress until Starship goes into orbit reliably. What's the point of recovering the second stage 100% of the time if the second stage explodes on its way up nine times out of ten? Rapid reuseability is a mean, not the end.

Anonymous No. 16610907

>>16610904
This is Elon Musk winning over all Republican tesla shorters

Anonymous No. 16610910

Trust the plan

Anonymous No. 16610911

>>16610884
> not the second stage jesus christ
Yeah, had Starship performed flawlessly, but booster recovery been a fuck you'd still have a functioning LV.

Anonymous No. 16610912

>>16610910
w-what's the plan?

Anonymous No. 16610913

8 launches and only 3 times ship managed to complete its engine burn
reee
reeeeee

Anonymous No. 16610914

>>16610756
>>16610773
Actually, given that the booster was recovered successfully, he seems to think that just the ship costs $300 million.

Anonymous No. 16610916

Every SpaceX manager trying to hype up their team by talking about the Falcon 1 failures rn

Anonymous No. 16610917

>>16610772
actually you can do it infinitely, but the final employee might not be feeling to well after a couple decimations

Anonymous No. 16610920

>>16610905
Anon…orbital capability comes before ship tower landing. You can't do ship tower landing without orbit. Recovering both stages means nobody has to wait for new hardware or lengthy investigations, just relaunch immediately. That's why it is such a huge deal getting that far.

We are so close to that too, it just keeps fucking exploding in space so we never get to do it. It would take like a 2 second extra prograde burn to change the flight profile, hence why Musk wants to do it immediately after these ships stop exploding

Anonymous No. 16610922

>>16610912
to meme epically XD

Anonymous No. 16610925

>>16610922
HAHA DOGE AMIRIGHT

Anonymous No. 16610926

If you instead imagine the Starship program as a bahamas firework project, it is a stunning success

Anonymous No. 16610928

>>16610595
because he's a teenager

Anonymous No. 16610929

>>16610912
6 low-pressure RVacs

Anonymous No. 16610930

>>16610922
You see, it is funny because "Department of Government Efficiency" can be abbreviated as DOGE. This is also the name of a famous meme. The meme consists of a picture of a Shiba Inu dog, accompanied by multicolored text in Comic Sans font in the foreground. Let that sink in!

Anonymous No. 16610931

Honestly the booster has been performing WAY beyond my expectations. All the ship tests made it look so difficult, all the failed landings, explosions, fires... and now they are just catching the booster like it's nothing, meanwhile the ship keeps failing or having problems every flight. Just think about the beating the booster skirt and raptors take during reentry and it still works but the ship leaks and explodes while just flying level.

Anonymous No. 16610932

so the only fully successful flights were 4,5 and 6 (booster recovery isn't essential)
i don't consider 3 to be a success since losing altitude control would affect payload deployment

Anonymous No. 16610933

>>16610863
kek

Anonymous No. 16610934

>>16610931
In other words, the ship is a piece of shit

Anonymous No. 16610935

>>16610926
kek

Anonymous No. 16610938

I dont even care anymore. Tory is going to go to bed and have such a good sleep tonight. Meanwhile I am malding

Anonymous No. 16610939

>>16610925
>>16610930
>I'm a memer like you!
>please like me
>please like me
>please like me
>why can't my money pay for you to like me

Anonymous No. 16610940

>>16610931
I propose the Starship switch over to super overpowered RCS at 120km that prevents the ship from rolling out of control even as parts of it are exploding behind it

Anonymous No. 16610941

>it was 20s away from shutting down the RVacs

aaaaaaaaaaaa I hate how fucking close to SECO these RUDs are, THE TEASING

Anonymous No. 16610942

>>16610940
SuperDraco RCS

Anonymous No. 16610944

>>16610942
>hypergolic
YUMMY

Anonymous No. 16610945

>>16610929

Yeah. Simplify on one engine type then work the other issues.

Anonymous No. 16610946

>>16610900
>https://x.com/Blobifie/status/1897701208686837765
spokey

Anonymous No. 16610947

>>16610941
20 seconds is a lifetime in orbitry

Anonymous No. 16610949

>>16610931
>Just think about the beating the booster skirt and raptors take during reentry
Just think about Booster V3 deleting most of that (best part is no part) and the same troubles as Ship V2 happening to it then

Setbacks for everyone!

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Anonymous No. 16610950

Press S

Anonymous No. 16610954

>>16610950
>JUST THINK OF THE BARS THOUGH BRO I KNOW IT LEAKS EVERY LAUNCH BUT YOU CAN FIT SO MANY BARS ITS UNREAL
-elon

Anonymous No. 16610957

What if the RVAC got damaged during the botched stacking? In other words it was the engine bell that contacted the clamp guide that broke off.

Anonymous No. 16610959

guys I had to go to work after the booster catch
did it go well?

Anonymous No. 16610964

>>16610959
Yes the booster catch went well

Anonymous No. 16610965

>>16610957
Interesting hypothesis, but personally I think it's just as unlikely as it getting damaged by a botched hot stage ring separation.
Based off the flight footage it looks like the RVac started failing towards the inside, more near the sea level raptors and not the outside connection ring

Anonymous No. 16610968

>>16610957
Unlikely, it looks like they did a pretty thorough inspection afterwards. My guess is either hard to notice damage from the long static fire or once again leaks and fires caused by vibrations

Anonymous No. 16610969

>>16610954
They really need to get the hell towards raptor 3s, these 2s are shit.

Anonymous No. 16610970

Based Musk. He brings the nebulas to us, since they are too far away.

Anonymous No. 16610971

>>16610969
Isn't raptor v3 even higher pressure?

Anonymous No. 16610972

>>16610920
Don't kid yourself. The first landed Starship will not be reused, and probably the next several ones as well. They would have plenty of opportunities to test proper orbital reentry with operational launches. SpaceX is too preoccupied with reusability when it's not even usable. Classic putting the cart before the horse.

Anonymous No. 16610973

We will look back on this day and laugh. But unfortunately, today is today, and we must now lament

Anonymous No. 16610974

Ok, so a fire, from where?

Anonymous No. 16610975

>>16610972
Funniest part is that starship would be the best launch vehicle even without reusability. Spacex is gimping themselves for no reason

Anonymous No. 16610976

>>16610969
>leaks out of openings even more violently

Anonymous No. 16610977

>>16610965
The ring wasn't jettisoned until later, but I suppose contact during hot staging could occur nonetheless. If engine startup was sluggish or asymmetric contact could occur. Possibly even without those conditions.

Anonymous No. 16610978

>>16610972
Bro superheavy is kicking ass and they can't even be bothered to toy with reusability of the upper stage because it cant even keep its TPS together much less survive to SECO. Reusability, at least for the upper stage, isnt even within grasp right now. That is how dire the situation is currently

Anonymous No. 16610979

>>16610974
from Starship

Anonymous No. 16610980

Muskrat just keeps on losing, lmao

Anonymous No. 16610981

>>16610974
The joints between engines and ship lines leaking fuel and oxidizer + hot surface or spark

Anonymous No. 16610982

>>16610974
Raptor 2.5 engines don't have a perfect seal on the puck they attach to. There are tiny gaps high pressure gas can escape from because they are a separate replaceable part that gets screwed onto and off of the ship

Anonymous No. 16610985

>>16610982
This should already be solved, I thought the government forced them to test seals?

Anonymous No. 16610986

>>16610470
A single RVac took out all 3 sea levels simultaneously. That's a huge fucking design flaw.

Anonymous No. 16610987

>>16610985
Kek

Anonymous No. 16610988

>>16610986
Minor inconvenience

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Anonymous No. 16610989

https://x.com/BCCarCounters/status/1897820905381703738
>Expected. The @FAANews is requiring a mishap investigation into Flight 8 of Starship.

Anonymous No. 16610990

>>16610986
It doesn't matter. If an rVac engine blows up the mission is over regardless. What it needs is more rVacs, and less pressure in them

>>16610989
See you guys in April

Anonymous No. 16610992

>>16610778
>Model 3 automation too far problem
>repeated itself in Starship's factorio giga autism run
kek

Anonymous No. 16610993

>>16610989
How do you manage to get a cursor stuck in a screenshot

Anonymous No. 16610994

It is not lost on me that raptors also failed on Super Heavy today. PIECE OF SHIT ENGINES

Anonymous No. 16610995

S34 engines were subjected to a 60 second static fire, they used the same engines?

Anonymous No. 16610996

>>16610989
Doesn't Elon control the FAA?

Anonymous No. 16610997

>>16610994
Less engines went out last time. All this just proves the only reason these missions keep failing is because Felon Husk is pushing his engines too far

Anonymous No. 16610998

>>16610975
They are blinded by the shiny title of fully reusable rocket and forget rocket exists to put payload into orbit and they are 0/8 so far.
>>16610978
That's my point. They should have created a operational launcher first a la what they did with Falcon 9. Prove you have a stable, reliable, and most importantly operational system first, then experiment and iterate on it. Instead they spent so much time and effort chasing the perfect fully reusable rocket that will work on the first operational launch and have nothing to show.

Anonymous No. 16610999

>>16610995
yeah
whats the point of doing the test if its not on flight hardware

Anonymous No. 16611000

>>16610973
Now is the winter of our discontent

Anonymous No. 16611001

>>16610994
I blame the retarded OLM-A design which even with the addition of a deluge system is still reflecting too many shockwaves back toward the booster.

Anonymous No. 16611002

>>16611000
two sn-11's in a row...

Anonymous No. 16611003

>>16610998
At this point SH is fine, making a 9m diameter expendable upper stage as a plan B shouldn't be too difficult

Anonymous No. 16611004

>>16610997
>Felon Husk is pushing his engines too far
Apparently not because they can barely make it to the upper atmosphere

Anonymous No. 16611007

>>16610990
You keep mentioning turning the SLs into vacs but how are you gonna fit them in the current 9m skirt? Also what about TVC?

Anonymous No. 16611008

>>16610999
To reveal issues that could occur anywhere, not just the engines.

Anonymous No. 16611009

>>16611001
Um, anon, the entire booster is between the shockwaves and ship. Booster wasn't the problem today.

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Anonymous No. 16611011

>>16611003
I trust it's not difficult to make a reliable and expendable second stage, but someone in SpaceX has to have the clout and the will to push for it.
Where is Shotwell when you need her?

Anonymous No. 16611012

>>16611001
The shockwave stuff is way overblown. The first launch pad launched several ton blocks of concrete at superheavy and she almost shrugged it off. Vibrations aren't what is causing leaks and explosions, the overkill pressure of the engines is

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Anonymous No. 16611013

so it seems the vibration heading up the booster into the ship is really breaking things. I think a redesign is in order, putting the starship on the side of the booster should help. Actually, while we're at it, we might as well do away with the chopstick catchment of the starship and keep that to the booster, so we can enlarge the wings a little to enable a tried and true traditional flight landing. I think this would be a pretty novel concept that would work well

Anonymous No. 16611014

>>16611009
My reply was about the booster, which had two engines fail to relight during boostback. Anon was also talking the booster, AKA super heavy.

Anonymous No. 16611017

>>16611010
Don't let Boeing see this. Delete.

Anonymous No. 16611018

>>16610998
The requirements as so different it does not make sense. Space x is trying to design a truck that can be used over and over. A normal rocket is more like an f1 car and only has to survive the length of the mission. Turning an f1 car into a truck would be harder than starting from zero.

Even if the entire project is a failure the booster opens up a world of possibilities as it is right now . Like your saying though they should just build a ship with a flat top and no tiles and work on getting it into orbit and launching payloads.

Anonymous No. 16611019

>>16611003
>>16611011
They couldnt even make an expendable upper stage right now if they tried with the way things are going, that is the current dilemma

Anonymous No. 16611021

>>16611010
Dios mio, el ogro de las areospace

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Anonymous No. 16611022

they should have listened

Anonymous No. 16611025

>>16611010
The booster would have to be expendable and also way too overpowered. You can probably use something like 12-15 engines to lift Orion

Anonymous No. 16611026

I have become doomer the consumer of blackpills

Anonymous No. 16611028

>anons advocating for expendable design
/sfg/ has fallen

Anonymous No. 16611029

>>16610995
its not the engines that are the problem, its the propellant seals with Block 2

Anonymous No. 16611030

>>16611010
My keyboard is covered in vomit. Thanks a lot, asshole.

Anonymous No. 16611031

>>16611007
I didn't say turning SLs into vacs I said add three more vacs under the skirt and make them all moderately weaker.
>TVC
Just take it easy on the thrust and they will be fine. It is basically irrelevant for now whether they operate at super high pressure or low pressure because superheavy has already done the hardest part of the TWR problem by that point (especially with an extra 3 vacuum engines giving more thrust).

Anonymous No. 16611032

>>16610990
*june

Anonymous No. 16611033

>>16611032
>2026

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Anonymous No. 16611034

>>16611028
I have always maintained that reusability, like every other design choice, comes with tradeoffs.

Anonymous No. 16611035

>>16610998
I think the logic behind that was that they already have a cheap operational system with Falcon 9, they don't really need another and focusing on reusability of the full stack right away will get you to the reusable state quicker than iterating through a non-reusable starship

Anonymous No. 16611036

>>16611013
turns out nasa had it right all along... what a world

Anonymous No. 16611037

>>16611013
to mitigate any issues during hostage, i would suggest mounting the booster windward on the ship

Anonymous No. 16611038

>>16611028
expend is fine if someone is paying for it and if the spacecraft is expensive like the $6bn for Europa clipper

Anonymous No. 16611039

what if the rules of space forbid second stage reuse

Anonymous No. 16611041

>>16611028
>anons advocating for stuff that goes to space
yes, anon, shocking I know

Anonymous No. 16611042

Simply premix the methane and oxygen

Anonymous No. 16611043

>>16611028
An expendable Starship would still have a lot of use cases even if it doesn't the raw $/kg that reusable does.

Anonymous No. 16611045

>>16611043
The shuttlefication is going along as expected

Anonymous No. 16611046

was it harmonic response this time or what

Anonymous No. 16611048

>>16611043
They already sent it to orbit and back down safely twice (thrice?). All they literally need to do is go back (on Raptor)

Anonymous No. 16611049

>>16611019
yes they could, they could just start doing Starship Block 1s if they wanted expendable upper stages

Anonymous No. 16611050

>>16611046
Harmonics has nothing to do with it, it was leaking. If harmonics caused the damage, these fixes should have worked. Musk is just a retard using overpowered raptors the ship cant containf

Anonymous No. 16611052

>>16611039
If by rules you mean physics then you could argue they just about do. Making a low maintence reusable heat shield is hard enough for Earth and even harder for Mars as there is greater exposure to atomic oxygen on the latter which eats the shield in addition to burning it.

Anonymous No. 16611053

>>16611028
Three expendable Starships would launch more mass than Falcon's entire 2024

Anonymous No. 16611056

>>16611046

Raptors have this problem where it randomly decides to spaz out (not always) at very low propellent levels. This was always the problem even when they were doing high altittude ship tests. You can see it in the earlier IFTs too when they tried to do the vacuum engine restart, they had to skip because it was tumbling right after SECO.

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Anonymous No. 16611057

>>16611050
MORE POWER

Anonymous No. 16611058

Musk gave up on reusable F9 second stages for reusable Starship second stages that don't work

Anonymous No. 16611059

>>16611019
Rollback to Block 1 design. They can simplify it further for mass production by removing the heat shield and header tank.

Anonymous No. 16611061

>>16611034
you are very smart

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Anonymous No. 16611064

>>16611061
t.

Anonymous No. 16611066

>>16611059
and flaps and a bunch of shit
but they don't want an expendable upper stage, they already have the Falcon 9

Anonymous No. 16611070

>>16611066
Except for the fact that F9 stage 2s have been failing at higher and higher rates recently hahahah

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Anonymous No. 16611071

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1897757240230121907

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Anonymous No. 16611073

powerful

Anonymous No. 16611074

Fuck it I'm bullish on Blue Origin now

Anonymous No. 16611075

>>16611071
truly a witch

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Anonymous No. 16611076

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1897773672028340494

I think Musk was in a cabinet meeting or something
first time he wasn't watching a starship launch live?

Anonymous No. 16611077

>>16611076
pilot G2 spotted

Anonymous No. 16611078

Shameful display from Spacex
I didn't expect them to have the same exact failure twice, did they forget they are supposed to learn from previous iterations?

Anonymous No. 16611080

>>16611078
>blame muh harmonics
>muh fire suppression will stop the firing from happening
>leaks and explodes again
>oopsie
I knew this launch was going to be terrible

Anonymous No. 16611081

Shameful display from Intuitive Machines
I didn't expect them to have the same exact failure twice, did they forget they are supposed to learn from previous iterations?

Anonymous No. 16611082

>>16611081
lmao

Anonymous No. 16611083

Chances they launch in a month and it explodes again in an identical way? lmao

Anonymous No. 16611084

>>16611081
I see what you did there

Anonymous No. 16611085

Today sucked ass

Anonymous No. 16611086

>>16611081
>blame muh center of mass
>muh upgraded avionics will prevent the tip over from happening
>lands and tips over again
>oopsie
I knew this landing was going to be terrible

Anonymous No. 16611087

>>16611083
50/50

Anonymous No. 16611088

>>16611066
I can tell they don't want to by the fact they haven't.
I'm saying they should and it would have been better if they did.

Anonymous No. 16611089

>>16611088
At this point Im not sure if theyre focused on testing raptor 2s or if they just expect raptor 2s to work and theyre really trying to test block 2 ships but raptors just keep inadvertantly blowing up along the way.
Does this make sense? Hopefully it does

Anonymous No. 16611091

>>16611089
Why didn't the block 1 ship have issues with raptor 2?

Anonymous No. 16611094

>Arianespace won

bleak

Anonymous No. 16611095

>>16611088
why?
I doubt it would substantially cheaper from $/kg to orbit and there would not be many payloads other than starlinks right now
if a reusable ship was years away and starlink required starship, then maybe they should but I don't think it does and its not years away anyway

Anonymous No. 16611097

>>16611091
The raptors weren't that strong compared to the ones they use now. They decided to use a bigger ship but the same number of engines which means they had to hike the power

Anonymous No. 16611098

>>16611089
the problem isn't the engines, its the new feedlines and so on

Anonymous No. 16611099

>>16611098
Nah, it's the engines. The feed lines got much better, they are properly insulated now

Anonymous No. 16611100

>Euros unironically won this round
Kek

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Anonymous No. 16611101

>all this speculation
know the facts
understand the truth

Anonymous No. 16611102

>>16611097
need to add another vac engine and dial back pressure

Anonymous No. 16611103

>>16611099
thats irrelevant, its a different architecture that gets shaken around easier and gets loose
the engines themselves are fine

Anonymous No. 16611104

>>16611097
Just so we’re clear: the issue is for sure the engines then?

Anonymous No. 16611105

>>16611097
Source for this?

Anonymous No. 16611106

Alright /sfg/, time to segregate into
>the problem is the ship
or
>the people is the engines

Anonymous No. 16611107

at least this time it failed before losing comms, so they probably did get some useful data

Anonymous No. 16611108

>>16611102
Yeah

>>16611103
>muh harmonics
For the last time, the methane did not leak out of the rear because it was "shaken too much"

>>16611104
Yeah, one of the engines started leaking and then detonated

Anonymous No. 16611112

>>16611103
I’m sorry, but I simply do not buy this

Anonymous No. 16611113

>>16611108
So you are simply saying that the reasons that spacex gave for flight 7 were bullshit? Are you retarded?

Anonymous No. 16611114

>>16611113
Unironically yes. They tested for harmonics and the problem still occurred, at almost the exact same time too. One of the engines started leaking fuel through and it shat itself. We already have the live footage and the PC footage showing it happen in real time

Anonymous No. 16611117

>>16611114
That simply means the fix didnt work, not that the reason for the leak wasnt the too gigh amplitude resonance

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Anonymous No. 16611118

uh oh

Anonymous No. 16611119

https://x.com/Degen_Zee/status/1897808441814794740
>Just saw Starship 8 blow up from our flight

Anonymous No. 16611120

>>16611118
huh, a negative spacex headline that doesn't have elon musk's name in it. that's refreshing

Anonymous No. 16611121

>>16611118
No more federal funding for those airports, and everyone is fired.

Anonymous No. 16611122

>>16611117
The fix didn't work because fixing architecture doesn't do anything to seal the gaps made between a super high pressure engine and its fuel line

Anonymous No. 16611123

>>16611118
pilots are HUGE drama queens

Anonymous No. 16611124

>>16611122
Nagga block 1 used raptor 2s as well
The problem is the new archictecture of the feed lines like spacex said, you are retarded

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Anonymous No. 16611125

>>16610470
Where's the freebird edit?

Anonymous No. 16611126

>>16611118
post moar KINO pls

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Anonymous No. 16611127

>>16611126
as you command

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Anonymous No. 16611131

>>16610463
Are the engines that don't relight during boostback but work fine for the landing burn just having an ignition problem that's eliminated because of the heat from adiabatic compression here?

Anonymous No. 16611132

>>16611124
Retard. Block 1 didn't use raptor 2.5. I just told you, you can't just scale the ship up and expect the engines to accelerate the same. Block 2 starship is bigger, so they used the stronger engines.

There is literally an official SpaceX infographic for block 1 block 2 and block 3 starship that SHOWS the different thrusts they put out, you might actually be retarded

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Anonymous No. 16611133

I'm about to start a new job with an oldspace company. After tonight's launch, I feel pretty good about myself.

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Anonymous No. 16611134

>>16611105
>>16611124

Anonymous No. 16611135

>>16611133
I start a new job on monday with a prime contractor, but it involves semiconductors, so I have no idea if they'll be used in space even though there's an areospace division.

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Anonymous No. 16611137

Block 2????
More like block 0/2

Anonymous No. 16611138

>Prior to the end of the ascent burn, an energetic event in the aft portion of Starship resulted in the loss of several Raptor engines. This in turn led to a loss of attitude control and ultimately a loss of communications with Starship. Final contact with Starship came approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds after liftoff.

Anonymous No. 16611140

>>16611138
I'm having an energetic event right now

Anonymous No. 16611143

https://x.com/DrChrisCombs/status/1897802928880337216

checklist: barren

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Anonymous No. 16611145

NEW ZUBRIN

Anonymous No. 16611146

>>16611143
Raptor 2.5 and its consequences have been a disaster for space rocketry.

Anonymous No. 16611148

>>16611145
Unironcially true. Zubrin is right.
Zubrin is an american Empire supernationalist which makes total sense if you are a space-head.
US empire is first place by far for space activity. There is no contest agaisnt them within white civilization.
They must win. if they self sabotage then its over.

Anonymous No. 16611149

starships wouldnt be failing if we could allow foreign talent to work on it. its time to annex canada.

Anonymous No. 16611150

>>16611134
>years out of date
retard

Anonymous No. 16611151

>>16611149
>Hello Saar this is Maple Johnson with Starship tech support

Anonymous No. 16611152

>>16611150
>years out of date
Who cares? It's still true. Block 2 ship raptors are stronger than block 1 is my point.

Anonymous No. 16611153

>>16611145
t. guy who hates the constitution and the west

Anonymous No. 16611154

>>16611148
>US empire is first place by far for space activity.
Wrong, China is, only exception is SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16611156

>>16611145
He wanted Kamala elected and he wants a forever war in Ukr. Faggot!

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Anonymous No. 16611158

>fuel feedlines
that's right wing disinfo they are at 6 bar.
if anything leaking it's the 500 bar preburner plumbing. also looked like the regen manifold was leaking methane.
but yeah block 2 ship has the engines throttled up higher

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Anonymous No. 16611159

BLOCK 2? MORE LIKE BLOCK 2 MONTHS DOWN THE DRAIN

Anonymous No. 16611160

>>16610877
just gotta move faster and break things harder

Anonymous No. 16611161

why do they even need the attic? early ships didn't have it.
they added it for hot staging but maybe it's better to harden stuff or put it in the nose instead of making an enclosed space around all the engines that forms a pressurized furnace cooking everything

Anonymous No. 16611162

God I hate the state of spaceflight right now

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Anonymous No. 16611164

>IFT-8 failed so hard not even PFA can believe it
https://x.com/PantslessMadman/status/1897818202798698722

Anonymous No. 16611166

>>16611164
who?
don't answer

Anonymous No. 16611167

has the memeking420 and overall cool guy commented yet?

Anonymous No. 16611170

>>16610971
I remember someone saying they had less leaking issues with them but I don't remember where I heard that.

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Anonymous No. 16611171

Elon Musk said the reason Starship failed is because we don't post enough Krystal porn

Anonymous No. 16611173

Block 2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16611175

>>16611173
better than the block tuah meme

Anonymous No. 16611176

>>16611158
It is very frustrating to watch two flights in a row go down in flames all because Musk insists on flexing on other space companies about engine pressure

>>16611170
Something something flanges

All I remember about Raptor 3 is they don't really have joints or places gas can leak through

Anonymous No. 16611177

>>16611145
Write another National Review piece on it zoobrin

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16611181

Internal view showing the failure point of flight 8. Look in the bottom left, you can see the leak.

Anonymous No. 16611182

Do not watch that

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Anonymous No. 16611184

>normies now think spacex's rockets explode all the time, unlike the rest of the industry's
interesting phenomenon to study

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Anonymous No. 16611187

>>16611181
looks like a penetration in the aft section

Anonymous No. 16611188

>>16611187
I wonder what caused it

Anonymous No. 16611189

A rock. A fucking rock. There’s nothing on the Moon but dust and rocks; how the fuck do you not have a contingency for this?

Anonymous No. 16611191

>>16611184
They ran sitcom re-runs instead of later Apollo missions.

Anonymous No. 16611192

>>16610996
Today Trump reminded agency heads that they control their agencies and not Elon

Anonymous No. 16611193

>>16611192
Evidently elon doesn’t even control his own company or hardware

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Anonymous No. 16611194

>slept through the launch
>start watching it when I wake up
>still excited to see whether there's another catch
>check text from my grandma
>"nice to see the successful catch"
FUCKING SPOILERS

Anonymous No. 16611196

>>16611193
Or is so bad at his job that he keeps making SpaceX make retarded decisions

Anonymous No. 16611197

>>16611184
Don't ever tell an EDS sufferer that every single non-SpaceX rocket ALWAYS explodes shortly after launching, their mind will just collapse lol.

Anonymous No. 16611198

>>16611196
Occam’s razor, this is likely the truth

Anonymous No. 16611206

>>16611145
NIGGER

Anonymous No. 16611209

>>16611145
pot calling the kettle black right there

Anonymous No. 16611210

Have these failures all started since they switched to Raptor 2.5?

Anonymous No. 16611212

>>16611210
it all began when i started drilling tiny holes in fuel lines

Anonymous No. 16611214

>not a peep from musk
miss the old days when he would actually engage and answer spacex questions after important launches or failures.

Anonymous No. 16611215

>>16611152
zero evidence of this has been presented

Anonymous No. 16611216

>>16611214
Give it a few hours, he's busy at the moment.

Anonymous No. 16611217

>>16611214
hes too busy stringing up his engineers to tweet

Anonymous No. 16611219

God I love a good /sfg/ melty.

Anonymous No. 16611220

>>16611181
What can they do to reduce fluid sloshing

Anonymous No. 16611222

what can we do to help spacex

Anonymous No. 16611223

>>16611154
>only exception is SpaceX
where do you think SpaceX is?

Anonymous No. 16611224

>engines turn off
y

Anonymous No. 16611225

>US has blocked Ukraine from satellite imagery and intelligence
further proof that every country should be investing heavily into spaceflight. the rewards are massive.

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Anonymous No. 16611227

>>16611226
art

Anonymous No. 16611228

>>16611134
Longship is looooong

Anonymous No. 16611237

>>16611226
T CrB Nova when it goes

Anonymous No. 16611239

>>16611226
why can't it look this good when it's doing the right thing?

Anonymous No. 16611240

>tesla sales are down and stock is crashing
>starship keeps exploding
And all of that started when Elon started trying to "fix" earth problems.

Anonymous No. 16611241

>>16611187
I'll give you a penetration in the aft section
*unzips dick*

Anonymous No. 16611243

No one will respond to you because they are in cope mode right now.

Anonymous No. 16611244

>>16611187
more like penetrate the ass section

Anonymous No. 16611247

>>16611148
>Zubrin is an american Empire supernationalist
he's only in it for the ZOG

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Anonymous No. 16611249

>>16611182
too late

Anonymous No. 16611250

>just make the ship bigger lmao
I guess it's not that easy in rocketry.

Anonymous No. 16611251

just woke up
>starship failed again
what a cursed ship

Anonymous No. 16611260

>>16611154
>The US is first in population, only exception is China and India

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Anonymous No. 16611267

Apparently there is a mushroom that contains a compound that turns into MMH inside your body when you eat it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyromitra_esculenta

Anonymous No. 16611269

Idea: like a big springloaded syringe that forces the fuel into the enigne

Anonymous No. 16611274

>>16611267
Is this really a good time to try mushrooms?
I want dat Chinese rocket fuel in my veins

Anonymous No. 16611284

idea: we should work to stop being so reliant on spacex

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Anonymous No. 16611285

This is what you get for joking about my flawless first mission's vibration loads. The harmonics and leaks will continue until respect for high energy architectures improves. You've been warned.

Anonymous No. 16611286

>>16611145
Nah. I think Elon is aware that focusing on starship would be too short sighted for sustainably setting up a colony on Mars before the collapse. He needs to stabilise the gov

Anonymous No. 16611288

It occurred to me that, after these two Ship failures, Blue Origin may actually have a unique opportunity to steal the spotlight from SpaceX in the minds of normies (at least for a little while) if they actually manage to land the booster on their next New Glenn flight in addition to delivering a functional payload to orbit. You can bet that the MSM is desperately looking for a spaceflight champion other than Musk's company.

Anonymous No. 16611290

>>16611288
>Blue Origin may actually have a unique opportunity to steal the spotlight
kek

Anonymous No. 16611292

flight 9 will be fine

Anonymous No. 16611297

2026 Mars dream pretty much died this flight

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Anonymous No. 16611298

I need a therapy dog
we all do

Anonymous No. 16611301

>>16611298
I need a therapy wolfwife.

Anonymous No. 16611304

What was SpaceX thinking writing software that doesn't turn off all the engines if one engine fails making the thrust imbalanced?

Anonymous No. 16611305

How many test flights did Saturn V have before they got it right?

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Anonymous No. 16611306

To those niggers that said Elon getting political was good, I am proven correct that it was a shit move now two flights in a row. Where is my god damn apology??

Anonymous No. 16611307

>>16611194
tell your grandma I love her

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Anonymous No. 16611308

Elon Musk is under a memetic curse because of his H1b meltdown. Success will not return until he disavows India.

Anonymous No. 16611309

>>16611305
Several, counting the entire Saturn 1/1B program.

Anonymous No. 16611313

>>16611101
>as of 5/7/14
Didn't age well

Anonymous No. 16611319

>>16610461
>my spirit will rise from the Alabama swamps and the world will know I was right
t SLS

Anonymous No. 16611322

Wider starship wouldn't have this problem.

Anonymous No. 16611323

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/cqjdyn95k90o
>SpaceX confirm say di ship wey no get crew bin suffer "one fast unscheduled disassembly" as e dey climb enter space, and lost contact wit di ground.
>Di ogbonge SpaceX Starship, di largest rocket wey dem ever create, spin out of control small time after dem launch am. No injuries or damage don dey reported but fotos from pipo from di Caribbean Sea island nations show di remains as e dey rain down from di sky like fire.

Anonymous No. 16611324

>>16610826
Because I am seeing SpaceX expand rapidly in size, but I am not seeing the results scale at the same rate. I worry that SpaceX is turning into yet another bloated rocket company that has peaked.

Anonymous No. 16611326

>>16611323
bbc ahead of the curve with belter language support

Anonymous No. 16611329

It's Biden fault

Anonymous No. 16611330

>171k jobs were lost last month, the highest since the great recession
unemployed: please, we need work, we're desperate
spacex, tesla, neuralink, etc.: we have lots of positions open
unemployed: not you

Anonymous No. 16611331

Why did the chopstick arms continue to swing round after it caught the booster?

Anonymous No. 16611332

>>16611331
They are quite wobbly

Anonymous No. 16611333

>>16611101
># of states involved
>41
Is this suppose to be some kind of (Pro)? The only reason this is ever done is not for the benefit of the program or agency, but to make the states vote in its favor because it creates jobs and make the states have skin in the game. Much easier to vote against something when it has nothing to do with your state.

Anonymous No. 16611335

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1897884969164222785
>It was an upper stage / ship failure desu.
>But we learned a good amount in building the new ship design and the flight.

Anonymous No. 16611336

>>16611335
I double-taked for a second thinking that elon used 'desu' in a tweet lmao

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Anonymous No. 16611338

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1897841723851645064
>With a test like this, success comes from what we learn, and today’s flight will help us improve Starship’s reliability. We will conduct a thorough investigation, in coordination with the FAA, and implement corrective actions to make improvements on future Starship flight tests

Anonymous No. 16611340

elon may be cheery on twitter but in reality he's firing alot of spacex employees

Anonymous No. 16611341

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1897883255380029524
>Today was a minor setback.
>Progress is measured by time. The next ship will be ready in 4 to 6 weeks.

Anonymous No. 16611342

>>16611330
I don't think those jobs were actually "lost". The number probably changed to reflect more accurate the reality of the job market. Kind of like how they pump up the numbers by messing with statistics and how they count things in order to make the numbers look better.

Anonymous No. 16611344

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1897882353298506137
>Rockets are hard

Anonymous No. 16611345

>>16611341
>4-6 weeks away
>Wait 2 weeks
>only 2 weeks away
>wait 2 weeks
>still only 2 weeks away
Lovely

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Anonymous No. 16611347

I feel like a dummy for believing SN1 would be orbital in October 2022 or whatever

Anonymous No. 16611348

>>16611340
I'd fire some too, the SPHEREx launch has been repeatedly delayed

Anonymous No. 16611350

https://x.com/astroferg/status/1897851331362107482
>Here is my 80mm refractor's view of
@SpaceX IFT-8 debris flying south of Florida, be sure to check out the full 4K video with the view from the 11" telescope as well:

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Anonymous No. 16611351

https://x.com/astro_Pettit/status/1897911131924041844
>We saw the Starship 8 breakup in the upper atmosphere and fall back to earth from the ISS

Anonymous No. 16611354

>>16611284
Falcon 9 is very reliable and still dominates the market.
Starship is an experimental program.

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Anonymous No. 16611359

>>16611341
>next flight is in 2 months
Jesus

Anonymous No. 16611361

>>16611340
Since you can read minds, what am I thinking about right now?

Anonymous No. 16611362

>>16611361
roggs

Anonymous No. 16611363

>>16611361
that cute tranny you just talked to on discord

Anonymous No. 16611365

>>16611354
Space travel only has two requirements, "space" and "travel". Starship is almost six years old and hasn't done either yet.

Anonymous No. 16611368

>>16611365
>space
every starship test has been exoatmospheric since like IFT2, blowing up at 140km altitude is blowing up in space
>travel
debris traveled downrange

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>>16610993
Maybe he uses ShareX like me?

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Anonymous No. 16611372

>>16611101
Unintended self-own.

Anonymous No. 16611373

>>16611338
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-8
Starship’s eighth flight test lifted off from Starbase in Texas at 5:30 p.m. CT on Thursday, March 6. The Super Heavy booster successfully lit its 33 Raptor engines and propelled Starship through a nominal first-stage ascent.

Approximately two and a half minutes into flight, the Super Heavy booster shutdown all but three of its Raptor engines as planned for hot-staging separation. Starship then successfully lit its six Raptor engines and separated from the Super Heavy booster to continue its ascent to space.

The Super Heavy booster then relit 11 of 13 planned Raptor engines and performed a boostback burn to return itself to the launch site. As Super Heavy approached the launch site, it relit 12 of the planned 13 engines at the start of its landing burn to successfully slow the booster down. The three center engines continued running to maneuver the booster to the launch and catch tower arms, resulting in the third successful catch of a Super Heavy booster.

Starship continued its ascent to its planned trajectory. Prior to the end of the ascent burn, an energetic event in the aft portion of Starship resulted in the loss of several Raptor engines. This in turn led to a loss of attitude control and ultimately a loss of communications with Starship. Final contact with Starship came approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds after liftoff.

Starship flew within a designated launch corridor to safeguard the public both on the ground, on water, and in the air. Following the anomaly, SpaceX teams immediately began coordination with the FAA, ATO (air traffic control) and other safety officials to implement pre-planned contingency responses.

Anonymous No. 16611374

>>16611373
Any surviving debris would have fallen within the pre-planned Debris Response Area. There are no toxic materials present in the debris and no significant impacts expected to occur to marine species or water quality. If you believe you have identified a piece of debris, please contact your local authorities or the SpaceX Debris Hotline at 1-866-623-0234 or at [email protected].

With a test like this, success comes from what we learn, and today’s flight will help us improve Starship’s reliability. We will conduct a thorough investigation, in coordination with the FAA, and implement corrective actions to make improvements on future Starship flight tests.

Anonymous No. 16611376

>no significant impacts expected to occur to marine species

Anonymous No. 16611377

>>16611308
Trve
Bro lost his mandate of heaven with that stunt.

Anonymous No. 16611379

Okay so IFT-9 in april 24-ish

Anonymous No. 16611380

Time to hire some russian engineers, muskrats.

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Anonymous No. 16611384

>>16611373
>an energetic event
why are they sugarcoating this?

Anonymous No. 16611385

>>16611384
sounds a bit like rhetoric to me

Anonymous No. 16611391

>>16611341
lol
lmao

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Anonymous No. 16611397

https://x.com/IterIntellectus/status/1897803905624318034

Anonymous No. 16611399

>>16611373
Is that almost copy pasted from last flight

Anonymous No. 16611400

>>16611373
Here is what you would say if you were a man
>Prior to SECO an explosion took out several raptor engines causing Starship to spin wildly. This ultimately resulted in a catastrophic mission loss as the vehicle reentered the atmosphere uncontrolled and broke up into pieces. Aircraft debris zones were activated. The debris landed inside a safe corridor and no one was hurt.

Anonymous No. 16611408

>Every engineer wants to work at SpaceX
>like a soulless corpo, Musk gives them subhuman working hours and pressure
>they burn quickly out
>talent leaves but no problem, graduates are begging to work for us
>burn through the entire engineer population of the US, only Musk worshippers fall for that anymore
>"no problem, there are millions of great engineers that work insane hours in india..."
Musk, you fucking retard

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Anonymous No. 16611410

>>16611408
fun fact, humans can only put in about 4 hr of actual productive (office-type) work per day, and only about 20 hours total per week.

Anonymous No. 16611414

What the fuck happened to starfactory? It's been "coming online" for the past fucking year and we're launching hardware faster than we can build it. Where the fuck is V2?

Anonymous No. 16611415

>>16611410
Source?

Anonymous No. 16611416

guys you realise that when 2030 rolls around spacex will only just be starting to experiment with in orbit refuelling right?

Anonymous No. 16611419

>>16611416
s-shut Up!!!!
MARS NEXT YEAR

Anonymous No. 16611420

>>16610926
We didn't even get pretty fireworks this time around...

Anonymous No. 16611421

>>16611420
Wait if >>16611409 is from this one, never mind

Anonymous No. 16611425

>>16611414
>Where the fuck is V2
Exploding

Anonymous No. 16611427

>>16611421
Theres far less footage this time. With Flight 7 you had people on planes and cruise ships posting about it. Spacecraft burning up has unironically become routine.

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Anonymous No. 16611433

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiF2Jr50zOk

apologize

Anonymous No. 16611436

>elon hangs out in dc
>starship program halts
isn't he just a businessguy that procures stuff for cheap, why is he essential

Anonymous No. 16611438

Oh, IM-2 died hours ago. Impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkRSWm0vAaM

Anonymous No. 16611440

>>16611438
today was a red day for spaceflight

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Anonymous No. 16611442

Kinda funny seeing normies doomerposting 'haha spaceman bad' when this is just an average Thursday for the spaceflight sekrit club

Anonymous No. 16611443

>>16611433
>at this point spacex will be lucky if they launch starlink in to LEO
lol

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Anonymous No. 16611446

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1897960784321208734

Anonymous No. 16611447

>>16611446
regime change in south africa soon

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Anonymous No. 16611449

https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1897845938062082462

Anonymous No. 16611452

>>16611449
>flight 9 explodes the same way

Anonymous No. 16611453

>>16611433
one thing this dude doesn't seem to understand is that its not just about building some one off working rocket, not even about building a fully and rapidly reusable rocket (which is already what he doesn't seem to understand)
its about building a factory line for rapidly and fully reusable rockets where these things can be cranked out by the hundreds and thousands
a ship blowing up, even two in a row, is not really that much of a setback if you have that in mind
the point is to spam these

modifying some intricate rocket (i.e. a prototype basically) to become a mass reproducible thing is not easy or might not even be possible
SpaceX might have to re-design much of the rocket after the fact and for what? getting to orbit? they do that every other day anyway, its irrelevant

Anonymous No. 16611457

I think people *really*, and I emphasize that word, what SpaceX is trying to do here

its not to make a big rocket, its to build a city on mars
this rocket is just a means to an end
for a city to become any way realistic, they have to send massive amounts of cargo to the surface of mars relatively cheaply
so you need a very cheap launch vehicle and a lot of them, something that has never been seen before in spaceflight
people building one off artisinal space ships don't know really anything about mass manufacturing, Musk does

Anonymous No. 16611464

>>16611453
If that's the point then why not just make them expandable to reduce weight?
All the reusable shit is just scifi marketing scam at this point.

Anonymous No. 16611466

>>16611457
>its to build a city on mars
and exploding starships will do this how exactly?

Anonymous No. 16611467

>>16611449
It's SpaceX. They might proceed speculatively for speed. If it turns out to be the problem tear it down or crank out another one.

Anonymous No. 16611470

>>16611464
because rapid reuse with high cadence -> low cost of mass to orbit and subsequently mars

>>16611466
blowing up starships is the result of the method of development which will get you to the finish line faster and quicker than the alternatives (which won't get you there at all)

Anonymous No. 16611471

>>16611467
yeah

Anonymous No. 16611472

>>16611330
90% of job openings are fake, they just farming CVs and SSNs

Anonymous No. 16611476

lots of sugarcoating ITT...

Anonymous No. 16611478

There is an immense difference between learning from failure and failing to learn. The last flight was quite obviously the latter. Let's hope this one won't turn out the same way...

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Anonymous No. 16611481

Why is Raptor still leaking?

Anonymous No. 16611483

>>16611464
and like I said, making the second stage expendable would just mean they have a slightly chaper (maybe) rocket that happens to be big, compared to F9
it might not even pencil out to be much cheaper in the end
SpaceX is after a step change in cost compared to their current already operational system, not incremental cost decrease

Anonymous No. 16611484

starship went crazy huh

Anonymous No. 16611485

>>16611481
They pushed for higher pressure at expense of everything else and now the problem is baked into the engine design, they likely can't get rid of it completely because higher pressure = more leaks

Anonymous No. 16611487

>>16611485
And they have to do higher pressure because v2 is much heavier. If only they could add more engines instead.

Anonymous No. 16611488

>>16611481
Trust the plan

Anonymous No. 16611489

>>16611485
v3 to the rescue, trust the plan

Anonymous No. 16611494

>>16611476
No I trust the plan

Anonymous No. 16611496

>>16611351
Poetic really

Anonymous No. 16611498

>>16611494
anon, the plan IS sugarcoating

Anonymous No. 16611499

>>16611494
Two more weeks

Anonymous No. 16611501

>>16611397
lol

Anonymous No. 16611502

ok but what about intuitive machines? are they going to have to close up shop now or do they have funding secured for IM-3?

Anonymous No. 16611503

So what's the point of the hotstage ring? What do they gain by jetisoning it? Just leave it attached all the way down
>muh dV
I thought mass autism is dead

Anonymous No. 16611505

>>16611449
works or doesn't work, it still has to launch
maybe don't bother with the heat shield as much

Anonymous No. 16611506

>>16611503
It's really heavy and in the place you want to have a lot of mass the least, at the very top which makes it much more susceptible to tipping over

Anonymous No. 16611507

>>16611410
thats some absolutely delusional eurononsense

Anonymous No. 16611509

>Starship blows up the exact same way
>12 hours pass
>Elon retweets a statue account that was outed as an indian crypto scammer
Yeah it's been nice posting with you guys but I think I'm going to find a new special interest for a while

Anonymous No. 16611510

>>16610682
they need to build a gigavacuumbay to do the tests properly

Anonymous No. 16611512

>>16611507
Euros are the one leading the aerospace now
You ameritards can't even launch a rocket with it exploding or land without tipping
Meanwhile Euro Gods get it right on the first try

Anonymous No. 16611513

>>16611216
Yeah busy tweeting about politics

Anonymous No. 16611515

>>16611503
its a retrofit and I guess not jettisoning it on V1 of booster would fuck up the boostback and/or landing due to one reason or another

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Anonymous No. 16611517

>>16611512
https://x.com/PhysInHistory/status/1897918654404079794

he reposted this too

Anonymous No. 16611518

>>16611503
Because booster was uncontrollable when they left it be

Anonymous No. 16611521

>>16611515
They jettison it after the boostback burn tho

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Anonymous No. 16611522

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1897958133835743635

Anonymous No. 16611525

>>16611522
Lmao, just how much is he seething right now
How about less chainsaw waiving and more rocket working muskrat

Anonymous No. 16611527

>>16611408
He seems to think the success comes from his self hating self torture work ethic he imposes in everyone, instead of just not having one engineer's entire job be technical documentation for one screw like traditional aerospace companies.

Anonymous No. 16611529

>>16611522
kek

Anonymous No. 16611531

>>16611509
we need someone to come and disrupt the elon spergout industry. He is quickly outliving his usefulness for the mars effort

Anonymous No. 16611532

>>16611531
Half of elon’s success comes from him being a whimsical reprobate. Someone like Jeff Bezos or Peter Beck or Tory Bruno couldn’t do a Starship-like rocket. Too serious, too scared of failure, not bold and whimsical enough. Elon Musk’s antics are a double-edged sword—he can be annoying but this behavior also drives SX to slither past roadblocks that would otherwise hold up companies like BO and ULA

Anonymous No. 16611533

>>16611532
past tense, anon.

Anonymous No. 16611537

>>16611487
Why didn't they do that with V2? There is space for 3 more RVac

Anonymous No. 16611541

>>16611537
Is there?

Anonymous No. 16611543

>>16611537
show me on the doll where you fit 3 more Vac engine bells

Anonymous No. 16611544

>>16611506
what about when its built into the booster though? maybe hotstaging isnt the best idea

Anonymous No. 16611547

>>16611533
nah, I've seen similar whining about Musk since the Starship programme started
whether it was Tesla, the Boring Company, Neuralink, buying twitter, starting xAI and now running DOGE, there has always been a bunch of shit he has been doing aside from SpaceX
yet here they are
the seething was much worse in fact after IFT-1

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>>16611541
>>16611543
Here

Anonymous No. 16611550

>>16611544
v2 booster is going to be bigger and the manufacturing for the hotstaging will be lighter and more integrated
right now the hot staging ring is basically an ad hoc hacked together solution to keep the programme going forward

Anonymous No. 16611551

>>16611548
nah
it just needs to go to 4 RVac engines in a square

Anonymous No. 16611552

how does /sfg/ feel about 2 rockets exploding in a row? is it ogre?

Anonymous No. 16611553

>>16611552
it is unfortunate

Anonymous No. 16611554

now that booster reuse is solved, they need to be making more Starships for testing

Anonymous No. 16611557

What's the point making a gazillion engines, if they're also working on a newer version of the same engine?
>our fancy new V3 is more powerful, more reliable than the old ones
>but we will keep using these old janky ones because we have like 500 of them
>engines fail, don't learn anything about what you actually want to test

Anonymous No. 16611559

>>16611554
might make sense to switch some engineering resources around to focus on Starship for a while

Anonymous No. 16611561

>>16611557
but they did get far enough to test a bunch of other things even if V2s fucked up from time to time
they have water landed the Starship 3 times now
without manufacturing a bunch of "obsolete" v2 raptors they could not have blown up hundreds of engines that were necessary to do these tests which would have meant years of delay waiting for V3 to get finished
and I'm 100% certain that these tests inform how the engines function as well and the other related systems which then get fed into the development of V3

Anonymous No. 16611564

silencer would stop vibration
>>>/wsg/5828412

Anonymous No. 16611565

If they launched from Cape, no one would give a shit about a little mishap

Anonymous No. 16611566

>>16611548
Probably decided against it because they would need to redesign a lot of stuff.

Anonymous No. 16611567

>>16611566
Didn't they make like thousands of changes?

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Anonymous No. 16611569

>>16611442

Anonymous No. 16611570

>>16611564
make starbase and brownsville a special economic (elon) zone

Anonymous No. 16611572

>>16611442
>1st full stack with first few raptors, expected to blow up
vs
>7th and 8th full stack blowing up the exact same way
The point of blowing these things up is to learn. Something is clearly fundamentally wrong in a way it wasn't before.

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Anonymous No. 16611575

At what point to we declare the twitter yes-men an existential risk to humanity

Anonymous No. 16611578

>>16611552
it was extremely painful

Anonymous No. 16611579

>>16611552
its in fact 8 rockets exploding in a row

Anonymous No. 16611580

does anyone have screencap, where elon says adding more ventilation and firesupressant will fix vibration

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Anonymous No. 16611583

>>16611575
what is wrong with Elon's brain where he needs approval from this revolving fuck

Anonymous No. 16611585

>>16611580
I don't think thats what he said

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Anonymous No. 16611587

https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1897988242344951866

Anonymous No. 16611588

>>16611301
*foxwife

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>>16611587

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Anonymous No. 16611591

lol
lmao

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Anonymous No. 16611592

https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1897990636092981460
>The Launch Site sustained some damage after this flight as well, with GSE seen in these images and other equipment scattered around the site

Anonymous No. 16611596

>>16611591
a leak caused by more vibration than expected
he does not imply that the fire suppression would fix the vibration itself, I think SpaceX said they tried to do something else to fix that
the fire suppression in this case would just be a temporary measure so they could keep testing other systems like the tiles but I guess it wasn't suppressive enough

Anonymous No. 16611597

there's gotta be a point where all this destructive testing is pointless right? like you need to stop and go back to the drawing board cause you keep fucking up?

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>>16611592

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Anonymous No. 16611600

https://x.com/jmanfloppy/status/1897994800739111341

Anonymous No. 16611601

>>16611537
I feel like they need to do 6 rvac in the long run in order to support engine out. Right now if any of the vac engines go out you're kinda screwed due to the asymmetric thrust and I'm fairly certain (speculation) the center 3 are unable to compensate for an entire rvac that far off-axis. If they have 6 engines, then if one of them goes out you just shut down the opposite one and maintain symmetric thrust.

Anonymous No. 16611602

>>16611552
>how does /sfg/ feel about 2 rockets exploding in a row? is it ogre?
it sucks BUT we get some crazy ass kino out of it, so it's acceptable

Anonymous No. 16611605

>>16611600
>>16611592
what are they?

Anonymous No. 16611608

>>16611597
we are nowhere near that
and it isn't even certain that the problem is the exact same as in Flight 7, it just looks quite similar and people are speculating
it could be something related but still distinct

perhaps there was a leak, that got suppressed and by itself wouldn't have been a big deal, but there was a problem with the vacuum nozzle getting too hot or whatever (which by itself would not have been a problem either perhaps) and then you had these two minor problems combining into a major problem
we don't know yet

Anonymous No. 16611609

>>16611587
>>16611592
maybe it was just me but it seemed to linger on the pad for longer than usual. could have been just the camera angle but i thought for a few moments that it wasn't going launch at all.

Anonymous No. 16611612

>>16611605
vaporization systems for cryogenic cooling of the propellants

Anonymous No. 16611613

>>16611601
only need 4 for that

Anonymous No. 16611614

>>16611609
I thought the same thing

Anonymous No. 16611615

>>16611552
It all depends on the reason, and we don't know all the data.
If it's solvable with some tweakings it's not serious, if it requires to start over the design it would be quite bad.

Anonymous No. 16611616

>>16611591
Is this about ITF7 or ITF8?
Hard to tell

Anonymous No. 16611619

>>16611616
its the same mission

Anonymous No. 16611622

>>16611616
it was about flight 7, but it seems like it was still a problem for 8.

Anonymous No. 16611625

>>16611591
Maybe they should triple-check for leaks?

Anonymous No. 16611627

>>16611602
that cope worked last time. Not so much now

Anonymous No. 16611629

>>16611627
Why would anyone need to cope? We're not SpaceX employees or investors.

Anonymous No. 16611632

>>16610826
once could be a fluke, getting unlucky with some 1/1000 chance of material failure or the likes happening.
No part has a reliabilty of 1, only 0.99 or 0.999 or something, could just be bad luck.
twice (in a row) is a pattern. there are fundamental design flaws with block 2 and they need to go back to the drawing board.

Anonymous No. 16611633

>>16611629
>We're not SpaceX employees or investors.
correct. We're elon dick suckers. Admitting that our god emperor can fuck up is heresy to us!

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Anonymous No. 16611635

You have to remember that Ship V2 was supposed to fly with Raptor 3, not Raptor 2, and that's causing them problems. Since V2 is heavier, Raptor 2's have to run a high/full power, causing leaks and if you read Elon's post, they know that they can't prevent leaks from happening, so they are forced to cope with fire suppression and more venting.

The big question is, why is Raptor 3 still not ready?

Anonymous No. 16611636

>>16611635
Because Elon won't stop working from home and get back to the office.

Anonymous No. 16611637

>>16611627
my copometrics are reporting nominal thanky ou very much.

Anonymous No. 16611638

>>16611636
What kind of difference could he make? Do you want him to whip Mexicans or what?

Anonymous No. 16611639

>>16611638
I just want him to practice what he preaches.

Anonymous No. 16611641

>>16611635
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1819779440752181445
>Important to note that the induced mass (mass required by a given engine design that is not the engine itself) of Raptor 3, while far better than Raptor 2, still has a lot of room for improvement. Thrust will exceed 300 tons with Raptor 3.x (thrust/mass>200), enabling 10,000 tons of thrust at liftoff and there might be up to 5 sec of Isp gain over time.
>Getting close to the limit of known physics.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1781188584084582905
>As it turns out, future versions of Raptor will ultimately exceed 700k lb-F! Honing T/W, Isp and reliability are much harder than thrust though. Rocket engines desperately want to explode.

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Anonymous No. 16611642

Thunderf00t won

Anonymous No. 16611643

>>16611633
Good news, Elon Musk doesn't actually have anything to do with SpaceX, he's just a conman and the engineers are doing all the hard work

Anonymous No. 16611644

>>16611639
He's too busy raising the fertility rate.

Anonymous No. 16611645

>>16611642
when he wins he loses. its a vicious circle

Anonymous No. 16611646

>>16611645
i wonder why Elon never calls him out on X

Anonymous No. 16611648

>>16611641
>will exceed
>might be
>future versions
kek, he's at it again and muskrats will gobble it all up

Anonymous No. 16611650

>>16611646
he's afraid of getting irreversibly owned

Anonymous No. 16611651

>>16611641
One of that's odd to me is the complete lack of pressure to make Starship operational. Eighth integrated flight and the rocket is still in the testing phase. It kind of doesn't make sense, because usually you release a product that's good enough and then improve it over time. That's what they did with Falcon 9 after all, it was operational since its first launch.
In comparison, Starship looks like a hobby project, where they don't have to worry about any timeline, deadlines or the money they lose.

Anonymous No. 16611653

>>16611651
Starship is just substantially harder than falcon 9. As well, as an established company with a consistent revenue stream from starlink they now have the privilege's of doing it like this and not having to put out a minimally viable product.

Anonymous No. 16611654

What do you think is the probability that Starship will be rapidly reusable within this decade?

Anonymous No. 16611655

>>16611651
They needed Falcon 9 to actually have a business model. Now their business model is internet subscriptions, and they can just dick around with Starship while making money with Starlink. Of course SS is needed for the gigabit satellites, but that's not a make or break thing at this point in time

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Anonymous No. 16611662

>>16611646
giving him more attention isnt a good idea. faggots like chunder are just flat earthers in disguise. theres nothing that can ever be said, or achieved, that they can't twist into yet more negative bitching.

Anonymous No. 16611663

All this gimmicky shit like hotstaging and insane pressure engines is just to cope with the fact that Starship is a fat bitch who can only put 40 tonnes into orbit isn't it?

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Anonymous No. 16611665

>>16611453
Doesn't matter. The point is, if you are spending billions and hiring the world's best, it should've worked by now. Something is wrong with the design that not even the world's best can solve.

Anonymous No. 16611670

>>16611665
>webm
wish people spent even a fraction of this effort on other parts of spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16611672

>>16611648
these are old posts retard

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Anonymous No. 16611673

>White House may seek to slash NASA’s science budget by 50 percent
Are we winning?


https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/white-house-may-seek-to-slash-nasas-science-budget-by-50-percent/

Anonymous No. 16611674

>>16611665
why should it have worked out by now? retarded comment

Anonymous No. 16611676

>>16611672
kek, thanks for proving my point then

Anonymous No. 16611677

>>16611674
because he said so and his expectations are the perfection of reason and informed commentary.

Anonymous No. 16611678

>>16611673
economists have been warning us for a long time now that the US economy is headed for a really bad time. either donny's crazy 4D chess works out for us, or its a global depression.

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>>16611673
>In many ways, NASA's science directorate is the crown jewel of the space agency. Nearly all of the most significant achievements over the last 25 years have been delivered by the science programs: Ingenuity flying on Mars, New Horizons swooping by Pluto, images from the James Webb Space Telescope, the discovery of thousands of exoplanets, the return of samples from asteroids and comets, Cassini's discovery of water plumes on Enceladus, a continuous robotic presence on Mars, and so much more. Even the recent lunar landings by Firefly and Intuitive Machines were funded by NASA's science directorate.

Anonymous No. 16611680

>>16611616
>ITF
Only trannies call it that

Anonymous No. 16611681

>>16611674
>we don't need to succeed
holy cope

Anonymous No. 16611682

>>16611673
yeah it's fucking over. I told you all they'll fuck things up. Good job on saving 0.000000001% of the budget guys! Fucking lunacy.

Anonymous No. 16611683

>>16611681
>by now
and they have succeeded, getting further and further
booster catch is now completely routine for instance

Anonymous No. 16611685

>>16611683
>getting further and further
not further and further into space, that's for sure

Anonymous No. 16611687

>>16611470
>the alternatives
Jeffrey finally got something into orbit after over 20 years of Gradatim Gradociter. Once. We're still waiting for his second time.

Anonymous No. 16611690

>>16611673
Deorbit the ISS instead. Only focus on breakthrough human exploration not lame presence on an useless piece of shit.

Anonymous No. 16611691

>>16611687
yeah but i wasn't even talking about getting to orbit, thats not a feat
I was talking about a fully and rapidly reusable launch system

Anonymous No. 16611692

Why can't they just get rid of SLS?
That would free a ton of money for science

Anonymous No. 16611693

https://www.youtube.com/live/UJy8VOmXy1k
guys

Anonymous No. 16611695

>>16611691
>thats not a feat
it is for starshit KEK

Anonymous No. 16611696

>>16611692
this. theyve done well with roboprobes and should stick with those. rockets are not their thing these days.

Anonymous No. 16611700

>>16611670
Usually only half of his is dedicated to SpaceX. But for views SpaceX obviously needs to be front and center.

Anonymous No. 16611701

>>16611692
that's... not how government budgets work... NASA's budget isn't just some bank account they withdraw money from. If they cancel SLS then they'll just lose that money. Not saying that's a bad thing, but they can't just mail more budget to their science department from another program.

Anonymous No. 16611702

>>16611503
>when they do thing it will never change
>so why did they do that!
Grow up, you brainlet concern troll faggot, it's temporary. Right now they just need hot staging to work at all, and it unbalances the landing to keep it there. Eventually they'll get around to the obvious of cutting hot stage gaps into the top ring.
Make it work first, then optimize it later.

Anonymous No. 16611705

>>16611695
they haven't attempted to go to orbit yet

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Anonymous No. 16611707

IT HAPPENED AGAIN

Anonymous No. 16611708

>>16611707
is this new? i thought it was kill.

Anonymous No. 16611710

>>16611600
cool, the new OTRAG rockets have arrived!

Anonymous No. 16611711

>>16611707
Yesterday was fail the same way day

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Anonymous No. 16611712

oof..
https://x.com/Int_Machines/status/1898018154380427501

Anonymous No. 16611713

>>16611707
>the center of mass is low, we know how to control our spacecraft

Anonymous No. 16611714

>>16611708
Does that look fine to you?

Anonymous No. 16611715

>No private individuals or companies are currently able or willing to independently pursue boundary-pushing, breakthrough science missions like Europa Clipper, James Webb Space Telescope, or the Parker Solar Probe
E S A
C N S A
J A X A

Anonymous No. 16611716

>>16611707
>>16611712
USA USA USA!

Anonymous No. 16611718

>>16611707
>>16611712
looks like it even tipped with the solarpanels down
lmaooooo

Anonymous No. 16611720

>>16611707
>Americans can't even land without tipping

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Anonymous No. 16611723

>>16611721
Yeah, RIP.

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Anonymous No. 16611724

>>16611707
Was manufacturing outsourced to Australia?

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Anonymous No. 16611725

>>16611682
>keep doing the same science over and over
>someone nootices you aren't doing much new science
>noooo you can't cut muh SCIENCE!

Anonymous No. 16611726

>>16611721
If we have civilizational collapse later generations who eventually return to the moon can still witness the failed landers. What a shame.

Anonymous No. 16611728

>>16611707
What am I looking at here?

Anonymous No. 16611732

>>16611707
Hahahahahahah

Anonymous No. 16611733

>>16611701
This but the average /sfg/ anon is 12 yo muskrat so they wont get it

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Anonymous No. 16611734

>16611725
cute bait attempt

Anonymous No. 16611735

>>16611673
>We need to fix Earth first
To go to Mars, right?
Right?

Anonymous No. 16611736

>>16611728
a moon lander lying flat on its face in a crater on the polar region of the moon, sending that pic before its drained off its batteries and dies

Anonymous No. 16611737

>>16611720
topkek

Anonymous No. 16611738

>>16611701
SLS budget is earmarked by congress (aka the opposite of progress)
NASA can't just spend that money on something else

Anonymous No. 16611740

>>16611734
Where's the studies on the effect of partial gravity on the human body? All we know is "earth gravity ok" "zero gravity bad", and we learned that 20 years ago.
We need to know about the effects of Moon and Mars gravity levels on the body.

Anonymous No. 16611744

>>16611740
Anon be reasonable. Do you know how many jobs would be lost or disrupted if we answered those questions?

Anonymous No. 16611745

>>16611673
You think they'll pull the plug on stuff like Voyager? I think so.

Anonymous No. 16611746

>>16610985
jej

Anonymous No. 16611747

>Companies like K2 (and others) are trying to bring down the cost of a satellite bus that could do meaningful planetary science. But they're not there yet.
who is K2? who are these other companies?

Anonymous No. 16611750

>>16611721
Ahahaha called it.

Anonymous No. 16611751

>>16611707
Why don't they design wider landing legs, with spikes or clamps in them?
Why don't they RCS down just as it lands?

Anonymous No. 16611753

>>16611733
im almost 30

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Anonymous No. 16611754

now we got berger derangement syndrome

Anonymous No. 16611755

>>16611754
Never forget the extra "e" in ArseTechnica.

Anonymous No. 16611756

>>16611754
he's right tho

Anonymous No. 16611760

>>16611751
the center of mass is very low man trust me bro please just one more landing attempt please bro

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Anonymous No. 16611761

What are the chances of a failure on the third flight as well

Anonymous No. 16611763

>>16611761
it is a certainty

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Anonymous No. 16611764

>>16611754
And to think I used to like that site. Its been pretty solid tech reporting since the 90s, now its a branch of the DNC HQ and just another liberal echo chamber.
If they want to stay in business, they need to simply delete the comments and forums, sending these uses off into the void. Its like they have the cure for AIDS in their very hands, but refuse to click the OK button.
Press it. Seriously, press the fucking button.

Anonymous No. 16611765

>>16611761
If they don't scrap current design? 100%

Anonymous No. 16611766

>>16611761
It will fail again if that non White female doesn't come back to the SpaceX stream

Anonymous No. 16611767

>>16611761
Probably not the same kind of failure

Anonymous No. 16611768

>>16611747
https://spacenews.com/k2-space-raises-110-million-to-scale-up-satellite-production/
>The fresh capital injection will help K2 Space accelerate production of its “Mega” class satellite buses that the company claims can be built for under $15 million per unit with lead times of less than three months. K2 Space and its investors are betting that as launch costs continue to decline, the industry will move toward larger satellites, countering the recent trend favoring small satellite constellations.

K2 are trying to knock Lockheed and Boeing out of the satellite bus market. Given that they're doing most of the sub-assemblies in-house instead of contracting out to Honeywell or wherever they're got a decent shot at it. The "and others" is probably referring to fellow travelers like Rocket Lab.

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Anonymous No. 16611769

https://x.com/SpaceForceDoD/status/1898001843499794897
>The X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle-7 (OTV-7), the U.S. Space Force’s dynamic unmanned spaceplane, successfully deorbited and landed at Vandenberg Space Force Base, California, on Mar. 7, 2025 at 02:22 a.m. EST.

Anonymous No. 16611771

>>16611751
Yeah they could design something infinitely more stable but that's not sexy

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Anonymous No. 16611772

>>16611740
retarded illiterate troglodyte. ISS doesn't fall under the science budget which is what is getting slashed here. Now sit the fuck down kid and let the adults talk.

Anonymous No. 16611774

>>16611721
:(

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16611775

>>16611247
He's obviously not though. Do you even know what ZOG means?
He is famously pro Ukraine which is NOT a ZOG project.
ZOG (Zionist Occuiped Government) means working for the benefit of Israel to the detriment of American foreign policy. Think Iraq for example.
The Ukraine war is a massive W for American foreign policy.
It is no surprise that when the Zion Don got elected the USA cut off Ukraine. Israel wants all the foreign aid for themselves so Donny is sabotaging foreign policy to support them.

BTW all the anti ukraine stuff in the media is Russian propaganda. There is nothign to complain about. Ukraine has recieved just over 100 Billion total from America and in exchange is smashing the second most powerful army in the world nearly for free.
The annual UK military budget is 57 billion for context, and we have less than 80k troops. so America has paid over 3 years far less than the cost of fielding 80 thousand british troops and in exchange has devistated Russia. Best deal in history. But Zion Don doesnt care about American Empire, he only cares about Israeli Empire.

Anonymous No. 16611777

>>16611769
what a crazy ass 24 hours its been

Anonymous No. 16611778

>>16611775
>we
stop embarrassing us retard

Anonymous No. 16611779

>>16611663
at this point I don't even know anymore
>>16611707
AHAHAHAHAHA
Does this keep happening cause their lander is too tall or because they're shit at programing landing software?

Anonymous No. 16611780

>>16611106
>the people is the engines
Onions Starship

Anonymous No. 16611781

>>16611778
I bet you consume political media for entertainment, and you think I'm the retard.

Anonymous No. 16611782

>>16611761
Actually believe it or not this time it’s not 50/50, it’s 100%

Anonymous No. 16611783

>>16611721
It fucking died? Holy shit how are they so bad at this?

Anonymous No. 16611785

>>16611284
idea: you should work to stop being such a faggot

Anonymous No. 16611787

>>16611783
Space is hard please understand

Anonymous No. 16611788

>>16611764
Why the fuck would you want to cure aids?

Anonymous No. 16611789

>>16611775
>The Ukraine war is a massive W for American foreign policy
Isn't the whole point just to undercut Russian gas to prevent them from getting too much money from the EU? Didn't China just pass the US as the EU's largest trading partner? Can't Russia just sell their raws to China? None of this helps us. Foreign policy has been coopted for the profit of the political internationalist class. We should be making friends.

Anonymous No. 16611791

>>16611779
>Does this keep happening cause their lander is too tall or because they're shit at programing landing software?
height is irrelevant. Center of mass is all that matters and IM-2 was fine in that aspect. No, the problem is with jeet coding and the fact that they failed to implement lessons from last failure. Kinda like spaceX in the last flight......

Anonymous No. 16611792

>>16611740
Forget the studies, where's the actual artificial gravity prototypes? They have been theorized a literal century ago and we still don't know if they're feasible or astronauts would just puke all over the place

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Anonymous No. 16611795

https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/1898028603809710417
>Bro led the development of v2 Ship and left just before Flight 8

"my work here is done"

Anonymous No. 16611798

>>16611789
>We should be making friends.
not with ziggerstan, no. They have nothing relevant for spaceflight and are only running on fumes now. Allowing them to do as they please is a good way to lose half of europe
>inb4 europ is irrelevant
they're at least trying to do stuff in space, as pathetic as they are. That already puts them far ahead of most other organizations.

Anonymous No. 16611799

>>16611795
>extending the ship's mission profile from hours to to minutes

Anonymous No. 16611800

>>16611707
Big day for space companies failing the same way twice

Anonymous No. 16611801

>>16611795
which company did he flee to? we need to watch out for them to have any sudden disasters.

Anonymous No. 16611802

>>16611635
Because Raptor 3 is the one that's going to be mass produced, and as we should all know, building something that can be mass produced is an order of magnitude more difficult than simply building something that works.

Anonymous No. 16611803

>>16611795
"So, why did you leave your previous job?"
job coach would say, never bad mouth a previous employee, coworker, or boss

Anonymous No. 16611804

>>16611779
Tall landers are a difficult design choice on their own. The moon only has 1/6th Earth's gravity but inertia remains the same no matter where you go, so tipping risks are magnified. All of these landers are needing to hunt around to try and find a clear landing zone means that they're usually trying to touch down with some horizontal velocity, and then they get tipped right over.

Anonymous No. 16611805

>>16611791
Yesterday was an unfortunate lesson incompetency

Anonymous No. 16611806

>>16611798
>ziggerstan
There is no way you have a rational opinion on this
>UK
You guys have already been invaded and you did nothing. Does this have some sort of vicarious appeal for you?

Anonymous No. 16611807

>>16611805
*complacency
Sorry I’m trying out voice-to-text but it sucks and I’m not proof reading before posting

Anonymous No. 16611809

>>16611795
Isn't propulsion system the problem?

Anonymous No. 16611811

>>16611340
He just said it's a failure as far as the upper stage is concerned but the big picture is driven by iteration time and they're going to launch again in 4-6 weeks. I wish it was every week.

Anonymous No. 16611813

>>16611809
thats the joke
doesn't mean these things are necessarily connected though

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Anonymous No. 16611818

https://x.com/JoeB_Photos/status/1898007454698352664

Anonymous No. 16611820

>>16611707
This company is fucking retarded

Anonymous No. 16611825

>>16611789
>Isn't the whole point just to undercut Russian gas to prevent them from getting too much money from the EU
It's the other way. They don't want EU to have cheap Russian gas and therefore cheap energy.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16611826

>>16611789
The Ukraine war is an incredibly good way to reel Europe back in. Nordstream was BLOWN UP by British divers of the Special Boat service at the behest of America. This war has set European-Russian integration back decades. Without it America would fade in relevance on the continent because Europe would be energy secure through trading with Russia. Now Europe has to get energy from overseas and depends on the US navy to secure it.
America "making friends" with Russia is the quickest way to undo all the progress in a flash.
As we are already seeing Europe is splitting form America in foregin policy. It's utterly retarded of Trump. Biden's realignment strategy has been completely ruined and now Trump will blame Biden for all the fallout.

Anonymous No. 16611827

>>16611802
Aren't they already mass producing Raptor 2?

Anonymous No. 16611828

>>16611820
there arent enough smart engineers to go around

Anonymous No. 16611829

>>16611827
No. They're only producing a few hundred.

Anonymous No. 16611830

>>16611826
so if you don't give a shit what europe thinks of america, then there's no reason to want to dump hundreds of billions into a war that serves no strategic american goals.

Anonymous No. 16611831

>>16611826
>Biden's realignment strategy
You mean chasing the EU like a simp when they choose to start turning to China?

Anonymous No. 16611833

>>16611830
What do you mean? Did you even read what I wrote?
The point of realignment is to realign americas satelite states in Europe. This obviously serves American interests. The American financial system would impode of America withdrew form it's Empire. The secret to low dollar inflation relative to all other currencies on the planet is that everyone globally wants dollars. With Trump fucking foreign policy it will ultimately destory the American financial system too. Important to you if you care about price inflation.

Anonymous No. 16611834

>>16611831
Like a simp? I would argue that waging a war and comitting acts of terrorism against European infrastructure is not a simp move. But you do you sweaty.

Anonymous No. 16611836

>>16611826
>Nordstream was BLOWN UP by British divers of the Special Boat service at the behest of America
No, it was blown up by ukrainians.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/11/nordstream-bombing-ukraine-chervinsky/

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Anonymous No. 16611837

https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/1898033592191582430

Anonymous No. 16611838

>>16611522
How embarrassing
for Dan

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Anonymous No. 16611840

When will we hear from VP of Raptor Jacob McKenzie?

Anonymous No. 16611841

>>16611836
NO it was the CIA

Anonymous No. 16611843

>>16611799
lmao

Anonymous No. 16611845

>>16611833
other than france all of those states are in terminal decline and they're run by some grating bitches.
>The secret to low dollar inflation relative to all other currencies on the planet is that everyone globally wants dollars.
and that isn't costless - it's given american manufacturing a major competitive disadvantage over the decades. if that was the price of keeping the red army from rolling through the fulda gap, fine, there's a case for it. if it's the price of keeping putin out of kiev? then it's not worth a whole hell of a lot, and there's a lot of satellite states that need us way more than we need them.

Anonymous No. 16611847

>>16611777
It's the space age, whether we notice or not.

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Anonymous No. 16611850

>>16611841

Anonymous No. 16611853

>>16611845
I agree with you that strong dollar is bad for American manufacturers exports. Fair point.
I would argue though that America is a place with very mature high tech industries partly because imports of parts are very cheap. If the dollar ebcomes very weak then America will degrade into a raw material/low value added goods economy like Russia or Ukraine.

Anonymous No. 16611854

>>16611825
>don't want EU to have cheap energy
Some allies we are. God damn I hope Trump refocuses national security priority to domestic manufacturing. Crippling allies (white) while the rest of the world grows is a fucking retarded strategy

Anonymous No. 16611858

>>16611795
sounds like he really did own it

Anonymous No. 16611859

Soon we will have 4 spaceflight threads.

Anonymous No. 16611860

>>16611085
>t. not ESA

Anonymous No. 16611861

We have 3 pictures left to post, be careful and only post meaningful pictures.

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3 pictures? I have just the thing

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Anonymous No. 16611864

I win

Anonymous No. 16611867

>>16611853
mmm, i don't buy it. up through the 80s we were manufacturing most of our semiconductors domestically and we were still the best in the world for computing. china's on the verge of reaching tech parity with us without needing to have a global reserve currency. if you could find some example of a country falling off in tech because of a currency devaluation i'd be interested in seeing it. it certainly isn't russia in the 90s because they never had a well-developed computer industry to start with.

Anonymous No. 16611868

Staging

>>16611866
>>16611866
>>16611866

Anonymous No. 16611876

>>16611867
>if you could find some example of a country falling off in tech because of a currency devaluation i'd be interested in seeing it
East Germany was the tech hub of the eastern bloc, then lost all it's mature tech industry once it merged with West Germany and suddenly had very weak purchasing power.

Anonymous No. 16611884

>>16611876
but how much of that's just due to a collapse in demand under perestroika because the ussr could suddenly buy all the computers they wanted from japan and the us? i'm not saying you're wrong, but i'd need to look more into it.

Anonymous No. 16611890

>>16611884
youre right, that was also at play

Anonymous No. 16611898

>>16611240
we don't have time to solve earth problems, we need to be focusing on space problems

Anonymous No. 16611907

>>16611898
it seems to me that certain, recently observed, problems in space could be solved on earth before they ever become a space problem. space problems can be solved on earth and earth problems can be solved in space. if the recently space problem hadn't happened due to proactive and preventative earth-based space problems there would have been no space problem and certainly no space-related earth problems following. its a cycle. the cycle of life.

Anonymous No. 16612019

>>16611802
But they can't even build something that works.

Anonymous No. 16612036

>>16612019
>(you)

Anonymous No. 16612100

>>16611707
is this loss?

Anonymous No. 16612114

>>16611861
>>16611862
>>16611863
>>16611864
failure just before staging is the theme of the day

Anonymous No. 16612145

>>16611907
yeah okay your soul is weighed down by gravity, please catch this asteroid

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Anonymous No. 16612148

>>16612114
>>16611864
stupid frogposter

Anonymous No. 16612150

>>16612145
>asteroid
perfect example of a space-based problem having very real earth-based implications and solutions.

Anonymous No. 16612154

>>16612150
throwing asteroids at earth isn't a space-based problem, it's a space-based solution

Anonymous No. 16612159

>>16612148
h-how?!

Anonymous No. 16612160

>>16612159
anime website

Anonymous No. 16612165

>>16612159
I assume they're either a jannie or they deleted a picture they posted earlier in the thread.

Anonymous No. 16612170

>>16612165
I simply noticed that there was a deleted image and we were one image shy of image limit

Anonymous No. 16612227

>>16612154
who's throwing?

Anonymous No. 16612228

>>16611840
>Tom DeLonge with dreads
>All The Small Things in Raptorv2 are going wrong

Anonymous No. 16612238

>>16611745
If we miss out on Voyager at 50 because of Musk and Trump's retardation and not the spacecraft failing I'm going to be very mad.

Anonymous No. 16612240

>>16612238
but anon, you're already mad

Anonymous No. 16612241

>>16611522
>US taxpayers
>spending billions
Mr. Dowd has no clue what the fuck he is talking about, perhaps he confused SLS with Starship? Why don't twitter blue checkmarks ever complain about SLS??

Anonymous No. 16612256

>>16611740
>>16611792
ISS never should have existed in the first place, it only exists for political reasons. From Mir we already knew that long duration in zero g is bad for the human body. The successor to Mir should have been a spin habitat, like von Braun intended.

Anonymous No. 16612261

>>16611826
>Nordstream was BLOWN UP by British divers of the Special Boat service at the behest of America.
Germany has issued an arrest warrant for a Ukrainian. Germany wouldn't blame Ukraine unless they were damn sure it was them. If they were going to just randomly scapegoat somebody they would blame Russia.

Anonymous No. 16612286

>>16612241
yeah. bring up how much money gets used on some engine refurbs for that and it all goes quiet.

Anonymous No. 16612338

>>16611333
At the time ULA's business was like 90% government contracts so it was a reasonable point.

Anonymous No. 16612345

>>16611368
>140km altitude is exoatmospheric
This is your brain on KSP

Anonymous No. 16612364

>>16611779
>Diversity is our st-ACK!

Anonymous No. 16612539

>>16612256
ISS was built to do corporate research.

Anonymous No. 16612628

>>16612345
NTA but anything over 100KM is recognized as not in atmosphere and in space.
If you want to argue semantics, then anything in LEO is not considered in space because of atmospheric drag, this includes the ISS.

Anonymous No. 16612754

>>16612628
But there is an atmospherd on Titan, which us over 100km away from earth's surface.

Anonymous No. 16612865

Starship Flight 9's Launch Date: 04/16/25.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sUHj6sNjTA

Get hype

Anonymous No. 16612926

>>16612865
>five and a half weeks
wtf I can't wait that long
fix this elon

Anonymous No. 16613294

>>16612628
>over 100KM is in space
yes
>over 100KM is outside the atmosphere
no

The ISS is both in space and in the atmosphere.

Anonymous No. 16614003

>>16611771
>implying the current thing is in any way "sexy"