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Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:35:22 UTC No. 153389
Are rare submissions worth learning or is it better to know just a few and be good at them?
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:45:14 UTC No. 153392
No submission is worth learning.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:49:32 UTC No. 153394
>>153389
Of course theyre worth learning if you take the judo approach of threathening with a rare throw/submission to scare the faggot then getting an easy kuzushi and ippon.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:06:58 UTC No. 153401
>>153389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wy
I'm not sure i understand the diffrence between some
"martial arts"
and gay porn.
I see 2 men "wrestling" often half naked, grabbing, holding, squeezing almost hugging each other, their legs sometimes (often?) get wrapped around the other guy.
They often get their legs spread, cause i guess this makes them more vulnerable.
And thats good for gay sex i mean fighting, right? fighting?
Aside from lack of clothes in porn.
Is that the only diffrence?
Maybe i need to ask lgbt?
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:16:50 UTC No. 153403
>>153401
your latent homosexuality is showing if you see any physical contact between men and immediately your mind goes to sex
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:17:03 UTC No. 153404
>>153401
There is nothing sexual in grappling.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:35:25 UTC No. 153405
>>153403
If you a manly strait man, can't you knock out a guy from a distance of like 2-3 feet with 1 or 5(quick) hits?
Why would you hug them and rub your flesh against theirs, and wrap legs around?
How is that not gay?
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:45:55 UTC No. 153406
>>153405
>How is that not gay?
because I'm not getting sexual arousal or gratification from it?
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 13:39:35 UTC No. 153793
>>153392
Fpbp, the only grappling worth learning is escapes & that which supports escaping. But what do you expect. Martial arts have become combat sports. Now the most "pressure tested" of styles is filled with homoerotic faggots that ironically unironically mock any proponents of any vision of Martial Arts that doesn't fall within their gay for pay model. Like everything else, industry has ruined martial arts.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:23:27 UTC No. 153797
>>153793
Combat sports are better than martial arts
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:30:01 UTC No. 153799
Learning how they work, knowing their names and mechanics, yes. You really don't get to control which one inspires better understanding of the entire idea. Actually using them, actively seeking an avenue to win with them, less so if you're not a full time fighter or grappler. There's no reason to learn anything new if you're content to work on what you already have, but almost everyone can benefit from occasionally seeing another way something works.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:44:27 UTC No. 153802
>>153797
Better at what?
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:13:29 UTC No. 153804
>>153389
Take whatever the fuck your opponent gives you to win. This isn't a video game where you max out your submission stats or something. Learn everything you can. Winning is winning.
>>153793
I have never seen someone so thoroughly ass blasted by jits. Lol. BJJ wins again.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:16:04 UTC No. 153806
>>153804
>troon logic
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:19:36 UTC No. 153808
>>153802
At hurting people who are hurting you
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:22:46 UTC No. 153810
>>153806
>hurr durr I'm a dumb nigger anyone who disagrees with me is a troon
This is your brain when you post on 4chan instead of training.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:46:08 UTC No. 153822
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:48:57 UTC No. 153824
>>153822
Unlike you I'm an AMMA fighter. I don't have the luxury of theory crafting a min maxxed paladin that does mantis boxing and senegalese wrestling. I need to win, or I lose. It's that simple. Learning jiu jitsu is mandatory to win. Get over it dude.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:15:37 UTC No. 153829
>>153824
Not even arguing that you shouldn't know submission grappling, but saying you NEED it to win is a load of bullshit, get over it dude. I get it, you've spent a bunch of time, money, & effort getting them BJJ dicks all up on you and you feel the need to instinctively defend it, you're suffering from Stockholm-Syndrome, it's ok. The gimmick has been great for marketing a sport, but at the end of the day that's all it is. A gimmick sport.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:23:08 UTC No. 153831
>>153829
Post your fight record or lower your tone when you speak to me.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:33:01 UTC No. 153833
>>153831
>LARP harder than me or lower your tone.
Ftfy
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:36:40 UTC No. 153834
>>153833
You'll never know the joy I feel in my heart for being authentic. You will always only think about or opine on what I actually do. All you can do is watch as I actually engage with something you're passionate about but to weak to be involved in.
You're a fightcuck, and that's ok.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:48:43 UTC No. 153836
>>153834
>tough words make me legit
Mmkay troon. It's a good thing you're being so authentic in the process of making so many claims about yourself. Truth be told I have never competed, so I don't have any record to give you, assuming you mean some sort of Am/Pro circuit. But if you're about to just throw out some ?/?/? format number and pretend I am just supposed to believe you, pic related.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:02:52 UTC No. 153858
>>153793
>>153806
>>153822
>>153829
>>153836
>that shitty boomer meme you made
>the statistics that don't really argue anything
>multiple mentions of gay, troon, etc.
Is this an autism thing or what? This (sexual?) aversion to BJJ is really strange.
The threat of a broken limb or strangle is really powerful in MMA. Just like the threat of a take down, repeated leg kicks, a miserable Khabib pin, etc...
The whole "only learn enough to survive" thing is retarded and lazy. A few more hours spent on kimuras/front headlock could win a fight but you're obsessed about homoerotic scenarios.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:08:18 UTC No. 153860
>>153858
>ad hominem
>denying facts
>not a denial
The jew of martial arts.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:11:28 UTC No. 153862
>>153860
>seething
>not taking meds
>doesn't train
>making bad memes
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:20:57 UTC No. 153864
>>153862
>Keep seething!
>BJJ wins bigly
>Creates whole other thread to bitch about how legit he is.
>>153850
Thats cringe, even by this boards standards.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:30:40 UTC No. 153868
>>153389
It depend what you want
>Surviving a fight in self defense
>Gaining more PPV when you fight an MMA championship
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:46:26 UTC No. 153869
>>153868
Far as submission moves go you only really need front/rear naked, armbar, legbar, and triangle. It's the same as striking where retards take the same basic movements and reinvent them over and over again, when all they really did was change the angles & slap a new name on it. Like when you look at the chart of judo throws and how many of them are just repeats with tiny changes that aren't really significant & come about naturally through practice. But one retard once upon a time wanted credit for naming something so... here we are.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:51:55 UTC No. 153871
>>153824
>mandatory
Yes and no
The mix of bjj, wrestling, boxing and muay thai or another kicky art is considered a golden standard but if you removed 1 of the 4, you would probably still be good enough with the other 3.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 20:31:04 UTC No. 153876
>>153802
You actually exercise and the approach it's a lot more practical, six months of combat sports it's better than six years of martial arts
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:04:27 UTC No. 153879
>>153869
>legbar
What in fucks name is a leg bar
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:56:07 UTC No. 153890
>>153879
Probably kneebar. The "front naked" is more mysterious for me but I guess he's talking about the guillotine or ezekiel choke.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jul 2023 16:46:40 UTC No. 154386
It's such a bizarre approach to even end up with a question like that.
If you are doing a grappling art for years as a hobby there is no good reason to avoid learning less common techniques.
One of the things I love about grappling is there is always something to learn, modify, or refine.
While with striking there are only so many ways to effectively throw a punch and you can get pretty good at throwing them all in a few months.