🧵 /HEMA/ General
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:38:09 UTC No. 195383
/HEMA/ General - Power of God and Anime Edition 3
>What is HEMA?
HEMA stands for Historical European Martial Arts, sometimes also called Historical Fencing.
It's reconstructing how to fight with swords, daggers, polearms, and other weapons based on old European fighting treatises
>What does it look like?
Inside the World of Longsword Fighting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zu
Back to the source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DB
Martin Fabian Sparring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8Q
>Where can I find these treatises?
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Main_Pa
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Categor
>Where can I find HEMA clubs near me?
https://www.hemaalliance.com/club-f
https://hroarr.com/train/clubs-gear
https://ifhema.com/ifhema-members/
Previous: >>177304
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 02:03:47 UTC No. 195386
Heh, buttcheeks
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 02:16:31 UTC No. 195387
Why do the degenerate pedos who jack off to children's cartoons always feel driven to spam their masturbation material where they know it doesn't belong? 4chan has dozens of boards dedicated to children's cartoon masturbation materials of all sorts, why aren't they enough to satisfy the masturbators? Do the masturbators have some sort of mental illness that compels them to spam their pedo cartoon pics in places where they know its unwelcome?
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 04:15:25 UTC No. 195402
>>195387
>pedo cartoon pic
>tits halfway to her elbows
Anon may be a degenerate mentally-ill coomer but it appears he has an adult woman fetish. Cartoon women have been used in arms treatises for decades at least.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 04:27:59 UTC No. 195403
>>195387
>OMG YOU POSTED A DRAWING OF A FULLY DEVELOPED ADULT WOMAN?
>YOU FUCKING PEDOPHILE
take your meds, schizo
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 10:14:08 UTC No. 195436
>>195387
Just to upset people like you
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:42:31 UTC No. 195460
>tranime OP
It's over for HEMA
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 18:34:55 UTC No. 195466
>>195460
Astronaut gun meme
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:02:47 UTC No. 195468
>>195460
>complaining about anime
>on 4chan
Newfags get out
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:52:08 UTC No. 195473
>>195460
HEMA was over when painted masks and colorful jackets were allowed. It was over before it even started, in other words.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:49:17 UTC No. 195656
>>195518
Tiny pecker compensation albeit
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 10:41:30 UTC No. 195664
>>195656
keep telling yourself that
>t. 8 in
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 10:47:21 UTC No. 195666
>>195656
>first thing he thinks of when seeing a dude with a muscular body is "wow, I wonder what his penis looks like"
Who's the faggot here?
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 07:08:59 UTC No. 195755
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 08:05:03 UTC No. 195759
>>195383
Kendo vs HEMA (sorry)
https://youtu.be/8oJAsVZGDS0?featur
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:55:11 UTC No. 195769
>>195383
Hema is just a bunch of autistic larpers beating each other over the head with rubber weapons because there are zero actual consequences to just lunging in and wailing on a dude, unlike actually fighting with weapons. Fencing has a similar problem.
Unless we’re willing to go back to gladiatorial combat or medieval melee standards, Homo will remain the gayest sport on earth for a long, long, time.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 21:43:55 UTC No. 195841
>>195769
>rubber weapons
Are you retarded?
>there’s zero punishment for just lunging with no regard for your own safety.
You’re definitely retarded then. I guess there’s no punishment so long as you don’t mind being concussed with blunt steel.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 22:15:43 UTC No. 195845
>>195769
Did you just find it out? It has been known for years now.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Apr 2024 23:01:07 UTC No. 195853
Got a Sigi King a Month ago and one of my Teammates (wom*n) told me that it was too pretty for training because it would get ruined? Is that true? Isnt wear and tear normal?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 00:49:55 UTC No. 195873
>>195853
She's complimenting your sword and you might be autistic.
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:02:15 UTC No. 195892
>>195769
True
t. former HEMA fag
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:43:44 UTC No. 195958
How much do armored combat gym memberships usually cost?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 00:14:05 UTC No. 196013
>>195769
/jsa/fag bait used to be believable
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 00:16:10 UTC No. 196014
>>195984
What is this goofy ass shit? Why is he using a saber with a parrying dagger? And why is the saber user going forwards instead of going breaking distance into neutral after getting parried? Looks like some lame choreography thing.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 13:44:31 UTC No. 196075
>>196073
>bonk
Anonymous at Wed, 1 May 2024 18:31:48 UTC No. 196103
>>196073
The opponent doesn't want you to know this but the gauntlets on his hands are free.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 10:07:30 UTC No. 196191
HEMA peaked in 2015. My countrys scene never recovered after Covid and seemingly everyone is trans now. Which is fine but I do miss sparring the sort of guy the new club image chases off. Bigots i guess. I remember 20 years ago the first response you got when talking about Fencing was ‘isn’t that for girls’. Now we push the marketing that it is.
It worries me that no one has actually founded a club here in 15 years and with the cost of living no young people are travelling to compete now. Its ogre.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 15:15:39 UTC No. 196205
>>196191
>everyone is trans now
there weren't enough girls, so we had to make them on our own
Anonymous at Thu, 2 May 2024 16:14:50 UTC No. 196217
>>196191
>everyone has axe wounds
Who could’ve seen this coming
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 00:35:15 UTC No. 196258
>>196191
I dont get people that obsess about HEMA not having enough hos doing it.
Like bitch shut the fuck up and fence who gives a fuck who does what focus on yourself.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 04:07:41 UTC No. 196276
>>195984
If one of you posts me at SOM someday without asking I'll be pissed.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 05:03:25 UTC No. 196285
>>196276
It's already publicly available on Youtube. Why get mad if someone reposts it on a Cornish dry stone wall building forum?
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 06:44:51 UTC No. 196292
>>196285
The principle, I guess. No good reason.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 07:25:58 UTC No. 196295
>>196258
Girls ruined my club including the one I happily married.
Its a touch sport with lots of armor so an easy male space to infiltrate. I don’t mind having them around but within a year or two they were singling out Beta’s and complaining they were being creepy when observably only they were distracted from swordfighting.
The Japanese arts knew to enforce standardised genderless uniforms. Perhaps they predicted garish painted on leggings and the effect such attire has on groups of women. At my club I have proposed enforcing early Renaissance modesty standards to hopefully chase them off. Women can spar okay against men (without hope of winning) but against eachother it breaks down into TwerHau only slapping matches. Weakly tapping at the wrists. giggling and apologising. DESPICABLE scenes. I HATE THEM. They all want to get raped. Knowing this is the key to coaching womens combat sports. The war of the pink flesh can’t come soon enough if we could just spar with sharp swords or just hammers once every 3 months as I have also proposed I could get rid of them all immediately. Let the club virgins have at the bodies. Never expected to pine for the ‘virgin duels’ days of HEMA.
If more men were able to read the hot garbage that gets posted on the Esfinges forums especially here in the US they would agree with me. Next time you’re coaching a girl quietly as her ‘Want raped?’. She’ll reply in the affirmative. Trust me.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 10:13:11 UTC No. 196307
>>196276
Tell us which one's you so we know who not to post.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 12:44:08 UTC No. 196311
>open hemaratings.com
>longsword has a troon specific division (underrepresented genders)
>no other weapon has such section
I blame ttrpgslop and other nerd media. When will they be cancelled on Tiwtter for putting women and trannies appart?
Anonymous at Sun, 5 May 2024 21:08:15 UTC No. 196641
Need to make a gambeson soon just for ren faire purposes and I already bought some prequilted cloth. Does pic related pattern look okay? All the ones on youtube have these elaborate patterns that I don't have time to download or buy. I do have a tape measure though. Will this work okay enough?
>>195460
>>196191
My girlfriend's brother told me that USA HEMA is a bunch of trannies and fags anyway. I just want to get into it so I can feel like the equivalent of a level 1 D&D fighter one day.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 01:56:55 UTC No. 196656
>>196311
>open HEMA general
>nonstop discussion about trannies
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 02:55:26 UTC No. 196658
>>196656
It's easily the most obnoxious aspect of HEMA that you can't discuss bluntly in mainstream HEMA settings so it makes sense that anons would take the opportunity to vent.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 May 2024 14:58:11 UTC No. 196689
>>196641
Seems pretty ok, but then it depends on what's your purpose. Has it to be historically accurate (and if so, for what century)? Do you need more protection, more mobility, or a compromise of the two?
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 02:15:43 UTC No. 196759
>>196689
I want it to be a comfortable undergarment for this chainmail hauberk:
https://www.museumreplicas.com/mail
I wanted to do a super-realistic hand-sewn historically-accurate-tools-and-met
Anonymous at Tue, 7 May 2024 11:48:31 UTC No. 196785
>>196759
A simple design won't be as comfortable as a well tailored one. You might find it a little cumbersome on shoulders, armpits and elbows: if the gambeson is thick and rigid it kinda forces you to stay in T pose. Nothing impossible to deal with, especially after breaking in it using it for some time, just don't expect the same comfort of a HEMA jacket. You can add some gussets here and there if you're willing to put a little more time and work in it, they help a lot.
Anonymous at Wed, 8 May 2024 23:27:26 UTC No. 196986
>>196785
That's what I'll do most likely. Just cut the fabric today. I'm excited for it even if it's kinda shit I like the idea of it being cut without a pattern. It seems more "real" that way (even though I cheated and used prequilted fabric but whatever).
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 16:09:35 UTC No. 197054
>>196658
Funny, none of the trans people I fight annoy me, unlike the cis dude who won't stop making fucking lightsaber noises while sparring
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 16:27:12 UTC No. 197058
>>197054
Lamest attempt at bait award.
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 19:22:01 UTC No. 197073
>>197054
>the cis dude who won't stop making fucking lightsaber noises while sparring
Get the based department on the phone immediately
Anonymous at Thu, 9 May 2024 23:23:30 UTC No. 197103
>>195853
I've seen multiple sigi king's break earlier this year, right at the base where the crossguard meets the blade. They weren't all that old either so be careful of that
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 04:23:23 UTC No. 197975
>>196191
I'm planning to grab the learnings over a few years and then go make my own HEMA club! With no rainbow flags, and hookers!
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 18:45:17 UTC No. 198041
>>196014
The parry dagger is with what looks like a cup hilt rapier. The saber looks like a Swiss saber used in the mid 16th century before the parry repost saber style really developed. That being said it is awkward and choreographed.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 18:52:54 UTC No. 198043
>>195984
That really looks like he just let it happen
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 19:14:23 UTC No. 198045
>>198043
I assumed it was some kind of cooperative demonstration. Was it supposed to be a competitive bout?
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 04:13:23 UTC No. 198107
>>198091
what if you hit them with the flat part instead of the sharp part
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 04:21:37 UTC No. 198110
>>198107
That is martially valid and described in several manuals as a way to incapacitate people without killing them
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 04:26:53 UTC No. 198112
>>198110
but what if you're trying to kill them, or trying to not kill them, now there's a right and wrong way to do each.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 07:22:55 UTC No. 198129
>>198112
>but what if you're trying to kill them
A non-lethal shot can set up a kill shot.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 10:01:59 UTC No. 198134
>>198110
I guess if you are a thin skulled sissy that is. You are NOT knocking me out with the flat of the blade dude. Don't think such a technique is useful unless you are doing it against someone who is unarmed and can't slice back.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 10:03:00 UTC No. 198135
>>198129
>Striking someone's head with the flat to set up a lethal shot when you could just strike with the blade.
That's just pointless asshole.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 10:06:24 UTC No. 198136
>>198041
Looks more like a cut and thrust/military rapier. Still, why is he closing the distance as he cuts? You can see that the cut would have landed on the hilt of the blade and nowhere near the sweetspot of the blade.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 10:15:25 UTC No. 198137
>>198135
git gud
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Prellha
Anonymous at Sat, 18 May 2024 11:21:29 UTC No. 198138
>>198137
inb4 meyer is sport fencing
Anonymous at Sun, 19 May 2024 13:50:56 UTC No. 198238
>>198137
A hit with the flat against the opponent's blade. That is, merely to set up something else. I was talking about something else, you absolute cretin.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 May 2024 00:08:11 UTC No. 198293
>>198238
>>198134
read knigga read
>however, while striking step well around towards his left with your right foot, and as soon as it hits or connects, pull it upwards and wrench out simultaneously towards your left side and nimbly strike from the outside with inverted hands again towards the same opening, that is with the inverted flat when it strongly rebounds in a ricochet motion
Anonymous at Mon, 20 May 2024 13:22:25 UTC No. 198330
>>198293
>The Prellhauw (Brellhauw, Rebound Hew) is a strike in which in which the flat of the blade is presented which then bounces of the opponents blade to another or the same opening. This strike is one of a number of Joachim Meÿer's named strikes.
The flat bounces on the blade to then strike with the edge to the opening you choose.
Read knigga, read.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 May 2024 13:50:15 UTC No. 198333
>>198330
Read beyond the first line you stupid ass knigga. Second play is a double prellhau. Here's a video for your adhd arse.
https://youtu.be/c99g35wqPeU
Anonymous at Mon, 20 May 2024 15:21:24 UTC No. 198337
>>198333
Meds now.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 18:04:06 UTC No. 198441
>>198405
nice
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 00:19:41 UTC No. 198462
>>198405
That's rough, going back after having been gone for a while.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 15:01:38 UTC No. 198505
>>198462
I found it like riding a bike, but because i've been training in other stuff while away my cardio hasn't suffered and I was much better at fighting in lower positions
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 17:40:14 UTC No. 198519
>>198513
I want to please Meyer's ghost by squatting whenever possible
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 21:17:45 UTC No. 198536
>>198495
You mean ritualistic warfare that doesn't ammount to anything besides muh national pride and is a waste of blood? What of it?
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 22:24:48 UTC No. 198542
>>198536
>and is a waste of blood
Do you know how many Indian and Chinese men there are?
Anonymous at Wed, 22 May 2024 22:33:38 UTC No. 198543
>>198542
You know what, you are right. Factory accidents probably are a bigger issue.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 04:51:39 UTC No. 198566
>>198110
I cant think of a sword where thats the case. Swords are not effective purcussion weapons. except for the back if its not bladed. Seeing as the sides of the blade bend and/or have to much surface area to to consistanty effective bludgeoning force.
You are not doing anything usefull hitting someone with the side of most any saber for instance.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 04:59:03 UTC No. 198567
>>195383
Im having some trouble with one handed moulinets, specifically the one coming from the bottum up from your off hand side (cut 4). the other 3 diagnal cuts im completely fin with, but that one it always seems like my wrist locks upfinishing it instead of fluidly completing the circle. I think it has something to do with me pronating and supinating my forearm, and maybe because the inertia/weight boing into my thumb instead of my other 4 fingers. anyone else have this problem?
https://youtu.be/7AjQHkBX9OQ?t=240
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 05:00:56 UTC No. 198568
>>198495
so sad these poor 3rd world countries cant afford guns :(
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 12:45:35 UTC No. 198584
How's the concussion and hearing loss risk for full contact rapier fencing? I can deal with leg injuries or busted ribs, but I just can't be risking noggin bonks like armored brawls require for tl;dr reasons. I know ppe isn't perfect and eye injury etc can happen. Foil fencing doesn't appeal to me though.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:05:37 UTC No. 198585
>>198584
My club's only had 2 concussions in about 7-8 years of sparring, in one case from a sword point managing to find a joint in the helmet. I'm not sure how you'd ever get an eye injury through the mask though. Much more likely to get a hand injury from what I see.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 15:44:33 UTC No. 198611
>>198584
Very unlikely unless your protection equipment is dogwater or yoy opponent is an asshole. Rapier is the safest weapon to spar as hard as possible with, you can only get fucked up if your opponent goes out of his way to actually hurt you.
Speaking of concussions, how come there are no fencing masks that use propper suspension like a costruction helmet or bike helmet does? Could be useful for longsword sparring.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 15:46:56 UTC No. 198612
>>198585
If a blade snaps and the mask isn't rated to withstand it, then it can pierce through.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 17:57:50 UTC No. 198629
Went ahead and joined a club. $200/mo which was steep but included training at a gym 4x a week with the coach so whatever I needed a gym anyways.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 17:59:47 UTC No. 198630
>>198629
What the shit man. 200$ a month is fucking ludicrous. You could buy a new sword every 2 months for that price. Real fucking expensive.
t. Pays 20$ a month to be able to go 2 says a week (it's the only place near me where I can do this)
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 19:04:17 UTC No. 198633
>>198630
Yeah its because of the whole personal training package as part of the gym he works with. If I were only meeting up for sparring and events then it'd be much less. Which will probably be my situation later.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 21:25:53 UTC No. 198649
>>198633
Uhhh, just do SS for 1 month brah.
Oatz n squatz ass2grass brah.
No need to pay allat.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 00:01:43 UTC No. 198666
>>198612
Well that would be like
>Opponent thrusts at face
>Blade snaps
>The thrust continues with the now sharp broken edge going through the face mask
Is that right? I would think it would be rare to get thrusted hard enough for that to happen.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 08:49:15 UTC No. 198699
>>198666
It has happened in olympic fencing, altho lunges in there are way deeper than what you see in HEMA. It can still technically happen but the risks are way lower.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 15:23:11 UTC No. 198717
>>198612
can=/= likely, which is what realy matters. You CAN also slip and impail yourself through the armpit, doesnt mean its a good idea to put a foam block in your pit.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 15:46:15 UTC No. 198720
>>198717
New fear unlocked
Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 21:55:22 UTC No. 198938
>>198717
Ok nigga lol. Just say you are too broke for a 1600N mask.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 08:34:09 UTC No. 199010
What unarmed martial art/combat sport do any of you think would be the best to cross train with HEMA? At first I thought that the best options would be either boxing or MMA. Boxing has a lot of focus on distance management and many coaches train with the "hit and don't be hit" philosophy, which is fundamental to evade doubles. On the other side, I believe MMA is a good mix of grappling and striking, and it could translate well to my fencing due to how attacking with a sword can be done either without controlling the enemy blade and requiring to break distance into a neutral state afterwards, reminiscent of striking; or while keeping control of the enemy blade up until you wound the opponent to make an afterblow not possible, which is reminiscent of grappling, as it's a constant tug of war for control over your opponent. Is there is something else that I should take into account or any other options?
Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 11:18:23 UTC No. 199033
>>199010
Boxing is a meme, and so are most other martial arts because the rules are too stringent and they don't compete against each other. MMA is the only practical martial art because it came to exist as a result of constant freeform competition.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 May 2024 18:39:51 UTC No. 199075
>>199010
Do judo.
longswordTournamentThrow.webm
Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 14:40:22 UTC No. 199143
>>199033
The point is not to excell at any of that but to rather use it as cross training so that I benefit in HEMA, like increasing hand eye coordination and footwork. Also, I know everyone likes dunking on boxing, but a fuckton of good MMA strikers had a competent career as boxers before. Still, I think that MMA might still be the better choice.
>>199075
I have done Judo and it gets mogged by greco-roman and freestyle wrestling. Judo is mostly hip throws that are done by grabbing the opponent's gi and a few foot sweeps. Don't think that can properly transfer to HEMA except for very niche and specific situations.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 15:26:51 UTC No. 199144
>>199143
>throws that are done by grabbing the opponent's gi
Many of these can be adapted to no-gi throws with about half a second's thought if you have reasonable competency and more than two brain cells. I've used hip throws, ankle blocks, sacrifice throws, and kata guruma in Dagorhir. Being able to grab hold of a HEMA jacket gives even more opportunities.
Anonymous at Tue, 28 May 2024 23:54:38 UTC No. 199161
>>199143
>Judo is mostly hip throws
For sport full of nerds you sure are a fucking retard
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 07:53:27 UTC No. 199202
>>199161
For being a judoslutta you sure don't know much about your martial art. It sucks ass, SPECIALLY the olympic variety, which us what most people train, which has a LOT of stuff taken out from it. You look like an outsider, and the fact you needed to reply to me dissing on Judo on this thread proves how much of an inferiority complex you have. Go back to your containment thread, retard.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 08:36:03 UTC No. 199205
>>199202
>>199143
>judo bad because olympics took stuff out of it
>greco roman good even though it has an even more limited ruleset than judo
You do not train.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 08:45:46 UTC No. 199207
>>199205
Greco-roman wrestlers would own you.
https://youtu.be/VXYqqx8DwFY?si=Xov
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 13:44:32 UTC No. 199232
>>199207
>posting the biggest noodle armed faggot imaginable who doesn’t even understand the rules of judo in his takedown video to prove your point
Holy shit, HEMA nerds get this faggot in line before he makes you look even worse.
What’s incredibly funny to me is the knowledge that the guy who’s been constantly trying to talk shit about judo while claiming he learned wrestling from YouTube was actually just a HEMA fag the whole time. Fucking embarrassing lol.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 18:43:24 UTC No. 199261
>>199207
There was an entire thread where this video got BTFO >>197626.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 20:17:04 UTC No. 199266
>>199010
Well, first look around to see if you can find anyone who teaches pugilism (usually from the 1800s) and/or anyone who teaches western-style wrestling. If you can't get historical wrestling, then freestyle (what they teach in high schools) works as well. Maybe if you're in a very special and/or very Greek area you could even learn the pankration. Why only do HEMA for swordsmanship when you could also do it for striking and wrestling?
Main problem with all that is availability of course, just because it exists and you want to learn it doesn't mean anyone near you teaches it. Failing all that just do MMA, you'll learn what you need from boxing and what you need from wrestling. Just make sure you're not in a stealth BJJ gym where you spend all your time rolling, everyone loves that shit now.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 23:25:58 UTC No. 199288
>>199217
>>199232
>>199261
Samefag taking the same bait 3 times in a row.
I did judo dude it's just lame. If you put a guy that did freestyle for 3 years against a guy that did Judo for 3 years, the freestyle wrestler would win with ease.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 23:29:17 UTC No. 199289
>>199266
Yea I'm not interested in BJJ and that would have the least carryover into HEMA.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 23:37:13 UTC No. 199292
>>199288
>I did judo
You took 1 trial class of judo and have been seething for 3 months >>189557
Anonymous at Wed, 29 May 2024 23:41:52 UTC No. 199293
>>199292
I'm not that guy, schizo. I did judo when I was like 11 and got to the orange belt.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 01:20:03 UTC No. 199302
Can't believe it took me until now to check if there is a 4chan hema group
Does anyone here have a black and orange or black and brown jacket? I'd like to get a spes ap light jacket with a bit of orange, but there's not a lot of patterns online I can find. Would appreciate any inspiration
Infact, post your gear if its not just black
>>199266
>Just make sure you're not in a stealth BJJ gym
Man, the nearest gyms with availability seem to be that, and I live in a big city. Wish it was more popular to teach wrestling to oldfags out of highschool. And all fighting gyms are even more expensive than hema. Whatever, I don't need additional brain damage
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 01:41:50 UTC No. 199305
>>199288
>If you put a guy that did freestyle for 3 years against a guy that did Judo for 3 years, the freestyle wrestler would win with ease.
I wrestled all through school and then switched to judo as an adult. It's a different skill set and there's a bit of a learning curve going from one to the other. Assuming identical quality of the grapplers and their coaches the outcome would depend on the rules and setting of the fight. If they know the rules and setting ahead of time, they're going to train to that instead of pure wrestling or pure judo and correct any blind spots in their training.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 01:41:53 UTC No. 199306
>>199293
Damn bro you trained for like 6 months as a prepubescent kid? Clearly you’re an expert.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 03:31:07 UTC No. 199322
>>199302
BJJ is insanely popular, so even MMA gyms can end up doing mostly that just because it is technically part of MMA.
I mean I get it. BJJ is a relatively low-risk martial art that meaningfully resembles childhood roughhousing, which is why I think it's so popular with modern touch-starved men, and thanks to the Gracies it definitely still has the reputation of being a killer martial art for "da streets."
HEMA's not "practical" but I don't care, I've been in all the bar fights I'll ever be in at my age.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 03:35:22 UTC No. 199323
>>199289
What would piss off BJJ dudes but is totally true; HEMA is built from warfare and in war it's simply not practical to spend 5 minutes wrestling around on the ground. You need to make dudes into casualties in less than a minute and be standing to move on to the next.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 10:14:09 UTC No. 199355
>>199323
>muh le epic warfare
Ehh, it's more like you don't have the chance to do BJJ stuff when there's sharp and pointy shit involved
Doesn't matter if it's a it a duel, a battlefield, or being attacked by bandits in an alleyway. Point is that with stand up wrestling I can at "increase" my skills for "feeling the blade" in a bout and with striking I can hone distance management and reflexes.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 10:16:22 UTC No. 199356
>>199306
Shut up already you obsessed faggot, Judo is and always will be the stuff you make kids learn after class. Even Karate is way better. Now gtfo and back to your thread nigger.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 10:21:31 UTC No. 199358
>>199355
I can AT LEAST increase*
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 11:17:42 UTC No. 199361
>>199323
HEMA isn't built from warfare, it's built from historical sport fencing and duelling
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 12:41:46 UTC No. 199369
>>199356
>obsessed
Really ironic coming from the guy who’s been seething literally for months
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 17:55:54 UTC No. 199389
>>199356
>Judo is and always will be the stuff you make kids learn after class
I'm sorry your Mommy abandoned 11-year-old you at extracurricular programs you didn't pick while she got railed by her clients but this is an 18+ website and we're talking about big boy judo.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 04:28:24 UTC No. 199459
>>199010
>What unarmed martial art/combat sport do any of you think would be the best to cross train with HEMA?
Boxing for the reasons you mentioned. MMA is fine, but if your intention is to train it to supplement for HEMA, there's a lot of superfluous stuff that you won't ever use.
As far as wrestling goes, I'd say Greco-Roman/judo/sport sambo are good since wrestling in HEMA tends to start from more upright positions. Folkstyle wrestling would be good for armored fighting with its pins and rides letting you shank someone at your leisure. If you want the experience of mixing striking and grappling, something sanda or combat sambo would be fairly applicable.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 09:06:18 UTC No. 199472
>>199369
Not me tho. Sorry but most people don't care for Judo. Now go start flamewars in the /jsa/ thread pretending like you post here.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 11:27:24 UTC No. 199478
>>199361
That would be wrong because there are a good amount of HEMA sources that are explicitly aimed at military personnel, clearest example would be the sources regarding the training that infantry military officers got for the use of the saber during the Napoleonic wars, many times including exercises and techniques to use against bayonets. There was also training in the use of swords for cavalry, as unless you were a dragoon or lancer, you would mainly fight with a sword against either infantry or other cavalry. Lastly there are sources that teach the use of the bayonet, which instructors studied to later teach soldiers.
Previous to the Napoleonic wars sources also taught more "formal" styles for the sake of teaching instructors and "bodyguard" type roles. Many works treat "self defense" type scenarios. Not "self defense" in the sense of modern "disarm this dude doing this elaborate and retarded technique", but just knowing how to use a sword to defend yourself from criminals.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 12:27:46 UTC No. 199479
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Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 13:17:25 UTC No. 199482
>>199472
>be retard
>irrationally hate judo because mommy made you go when you were 11
>talk shit and samefag in multiple threads
>get BTFO everywhere every time by multiple people
>continue seething for months
lol, lmao even. Cope. Reminder that you were the one who was initially talking shit about judo while praising wrestling despite training neither
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 14:28:28 UTC No. 199490
>>199482
Meds now.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 20:10:44 UTC No. 199518
>>199010
Boxing is only good for boxing. It doesn't work outside of the constraints of its own rules.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 20:22:11 UTC No. 199521
>>199518
>punching someone in the face doesn’t work outside of boxing
Bruh
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 21:13:48 UTC No. 199529
>>199521
Main problem with boxing is the gloves. The gloves are quite large and change your tactics significantly, both how you punch and how you guard. All pugilism sources I'm familiar with teach you to punch in a completely different way, you punch with your fist vertically aligned and use your bottom three knuckles instead of the top two. That's to protect your knuckles/fingers. Martial arts that teach punching horizontally with two knuckles typically have wrappings and/or gloves; boxing, Muay Thai, etc; that protect your hands from injury while doing it that way. The big gloves are also much better shields than your bare hands are and get used in a way that wouldn't really work with bare hands. And IIRC in the pankration you only strike the head with an open palm and never a closed fist.
That said I guess it depends on how you train HEMA, since you'll have gloves while sparring with steel.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 21:19:38 UTC No. 199530
>>199521
>>199529
Oh, and the wrists. You align your three knuckles directly with your forearm which helps your wrist absorb the impact without bending weirdly.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 22:50:44 UTC No. 199536
>>199518
I'm not going to punch people in HEMA, the point is to train cardio, footwork and distance management skills through it that can carry over to HEMA. That's the point of cross training.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 22:55:46 UTC No. 199537
>>199536
Even the footwork doesn't apply outside of boxing.
Anonymous at Fri, 31 May 2024 22:57:56 UTC No. 199538
>>199537
>Even tho Destrezafags love getting offline like boxers do.
Schizoidberg at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:23:50 UTC No. 199544
>>195473
It's just getting started. All we need now is to get some actual athletes in there. I'm a fat retard and I can pwn nerds who been doing this for over a decade
Schizoidberg at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:26:44 UTC No. 199545
>>195769
There's a lot of variety of hemp now. I think most people fence with steel now? Buhurt people knock each other out.
Gladiators were usually pretty fake and gay.
Schizoidberg at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:30:34 UTC No. 199546
>>196013
I keep seeing HEMA ppl talking shit about JSA on Reddit. What is it, Japanese Sword Association?
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:37:12 UTC No. 199547
>>199546
Japanese Sword Arts. They are infamous for being very closed/insular and never sparring or sparring only under extremely hard to meet criteria, specially by older/more experienced practitioners. "I will only spar you if you have at least 2nd degree black belt" type stuff. Basically the only ones that spar are kendo and other similar ones, which have incredibly rigid ruling about whether a hit counts or not and whatnot.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:38:24 UTC No. 199548
>>195769
Post body.
Schizoidberg at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:38:52 UTC No. 199549
>>196641
HEMA is almost entirely overrun by pinko commie faggotry. I try to stick to smaller clubs now. Most people in the larger clubs aren't worth sparring anyways. I watched in real time as a dude was transitioning from a normal opponent to a bitch that tires after two swings and cries about breaking a nail.
Schizoidberg at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:40:23 UTC No. 199551
>>196656
That's literally what HEMA is now
Schizoidberg at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:43:30 UTC No. 199553
>>198107
A legitimate tactic from Meyer. You can use it to bend your blade around your opponent's sword, slap him, then use the rebound to cut him from the other side.
Schizoidberg at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:47:58 UTC No. 199554
>>199033
Marrozzo recommended wrestling.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 00:52:45 UTC No. 199555
>>199554
What passed for wrestling in his time was probably a hell of a lot more free style than our modern sport equivalents.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 01:13:47 UTC No. 199557
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 03:58:33 UTC No. 199563
>>199553
why not just slap him and leave him to live the rest of his life as an embarrassed slapped man
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 04:08:47 UTC No. 199564
>>199563
There’s theories that flat blade attacks existed primarily for the reason, to be a good Christian and demonstrate that you could have killed/maimed your opponent but chose not to. If he continues to
Fight is when you would follow up with a lethal blow.
Schizoidberg at Sat, 1 Jun 2024 09:04:06 UTC No. 199598
>>199563
Ah, yes. Chivalry.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 16:12:12 UTC No. 199906
Is it a good idea for me to put some sort of padded cloth lining inside my practice cup hilt rapier so it's a little bit more comfortable? Some manufacturers like Hanwei sell them with lining inside too (pic rel)
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 00:06:57 UTC No. 199968
>>199906
Depends how loud you want the bowl to ring
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 11:54:28 UTC No. 200019
>>199906
Yes but it has to be in some pride colors
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 12:11:08 UTC No. 200021
>>200019
>erm lining is for fags!!!!
Insecure pencil neck award.
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 18:20:43 UTC No. 200057
>>199522
judo gene was the ref?
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 18:26:54 UTC No. 200060
>>199202
>go to judo
>taught by old farts
>ask for leg shit and forbidden shit
>they usually get a twinkle in their eye for the heyday
wow is that so hard
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jun 2024 20:42:29 UTC No. 200086
>>200060
This guy touches tatami.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 21:43:11 UTC No. 200412
>>200057
He actually was...!
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jun 2024 13:33:21 UTC No. 200731
My biggest weakness when sparring is my general inability to fully commit when I should. I tend to fumble many maneuvers because of this. It also doesn't help my general lack of experience and accidental telegraphing (been doing this for 10 months). What's the best type of solo training I can do to fix my lack of "commitment"? Happens with all weapons, altho specifically when using the rapier.
When I was younger and I was into boxing I had a similar issue. I could easily punch the bag at full power but something inside made me weaker when I fought against another opponent when it wasn't technical sparring. I know I won't hurt my opponent if I commit appropiately, but I don't know if this "reflex" is in any way related to my lack of commitment.
Plz help.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jun 2024 14:35:44 UTC No. 200732
>>200731
Honestly I don’t think this is an issue you can solve solo. What I would reccommend doing is making intentional small goals during your sparring sessions. You may end up doing “worse” than if you play your normal game but remember sparring is training, you’re not trying to win anything.
Here’s an example of a sparring goal you can use. Go in with intention to use as little retreating foot work as possible. Invite and push your opponent into the fight, and then force yourself to stay in the engagement.
Obviously it’s not smart to not use your disengaging footwork when you need to in competition, but in sparring it will force you to work on the things you need to work on.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jun 2024 17:56:01 UTC No. 200748
>>200731
You're hurting your opponent by not fully committing and not allowing him to train properly and it's an inefficient use of your time and energy to show up and perform half-assedly. Perhaps close your eyes when you do pell work and envision your training partner or set up your protective kit on the pell and strike that so it looks more like a person in order to condition yourself to participate fully in practice.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jun 2024 19:03:48 UTC No. 200749
>>200748
I am intellectually aware that what I'm doing is possibly harming my peers, but it still feels like something deep in me stops me from commiting enough to anything seemingly violent in any way unless I want to actually harm the person in front of me. I guess that just doing more pellwork is the only think I can do besides sparring. Maybe LARPing in my head that I hate the man in front of me and I must humiliate him.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Jun 2024 19:36:13 UTC No. 200756
idk what yall about but i just like swords
swords are cool
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 09:36:59 UTC No. 200855
>>200731
When one of my partners has trouble committing I usually made them do the strike against me and I'd guard several times in succession then one of them I wouldn't guard then start having them strike with me blocking or not with them focusing on always striking with commitment
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:53:05 UTC No. 200862
>>199546
>>199547
Any martial art, it doesn't matter what, is invalid unless open sparring happens. Otherwise, you end up the way China did when MMA was introduced, and millions of Chinese found out their traditional martial arts isn't shit against a guy kneeing you in the face and then taking you to the floor. Sparring is essential to find out what works and what doesn't. Hell, half the things in the HEMA manuals don't work under sparring conditions. They'll work when fighting an inexperienced newbie, but rarely anyone who has been doing it longer than a year. I'm thinking specifically of longsword and messer grapples. There's a reason everyone hangs out in longpoint at tournament.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:58:35 UTC No. 200863
>>200731
>It also doesn't help my general lack of experience and accidental telegraphing (been doing this for 10 months).
Then you're beating yourself up for no reason. Nobody is good at 10 months. After two years, you'll have no problem. Really, what becomes muscle memory is the reading of distance and your opponent's body mechanics. You won't have to be told that when someone is making baby steps forward they intend to lunge, and that you should cut into their blade and extend your point. You'll just do it.
>>200749
Sounds like your problem is calibration. You're afraid of hitting hard because you can't control yourself when you swing. That's a skill you have to develop, and the way you develop it is with sparring and having an opponent tell you, "That's too hard." Otherwise, you're going to get bounced at a tournament.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 13:05:34 UTC No. 200865
>>200756
I like swords. I like messers and jians especially. Imagine my chagrin when I found out Chinese people use a jian like a rapier, and not like a messer.
>I saw a Chinese martial arts dude fight a Dutch guy with a messer, and the Chinese guy was utterly baffled by the Dutch man cutting into the blade and then false-edging into his chin, over and over and over.
>it's because he was hunched over in some weird Giganti pose, but while holding the jian in longpoint
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 13:54:13 UTC No. 200869
>>200865
Are you sure the Chinese guy knew what he was doing? I'd say the jian is closer to sidesword than anything. There are thrusts sure, but jian is very cut heavy.
Here are some videos from Scott Roddel, a Chinese swordsmanship expert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7O
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 14:53:44 UTC No. 200879
>>200869
Any videos of him sparring? Those deflections are huge movements that don't look practical.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:16:31 UTC No. 200886
>>200865
>messer
The Chinese equivalent is dāo (刀) (literally "knife" in English and "Messer" in German) and can refer to pretty much any single-edged blade. Jiàn (剑) are double-edged straight swords of various sizes.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:19:23 UTC No. 200910
>>200863
>Otherwise, you're going to get bounced at a tournament.
I don't think it would be an issue in a tournament, if anything the problem wouldn't be there. The context is completely different here.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:20:42 UTC No. 200911
>>200865
>Imagine my chagrin when I found out Chinese people use a jian like a rapier, and not like a messer
Dude, it's a thin long straight blade, why do you think it would handle like a messer?
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 00:24:34 UTC No. 200982
>>200911
some Jians are basically built to be rapiers, but it's a more generic term. Covers everything from a gladius to arming/militia swords to full on Zweihanders, depending on period and use.
Taijijians are generally what you're thinking of though, they get a bunch of use in modern Chinese opera and martial arts movies. probably where you get the strongest rapier impression, too.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:12:09 UTC No. 201050
I finally found a fairly local place that teaches a few courses, but the beginner's course only teaches longsword.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Jun 2024 14:26:30 UTC No. 201122
>>201044
Those arent women those are Christian monks
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 20:34:07 UTC No. 201232
>>201122
I.33 is also known as the Walpurgis manuscript, after a figure named Walpurgis shown in the last sequence of the manuscript.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jun 2024 21:23:10 UTC No. 201239
>>201236
Our enemies may rest but rust never sleeps
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jun 2024 11:59:39 UTC No. 201283
Sup boys, I have participated in one "HEMA" group in my entire life. That is Houston, TX ARMA, an organization lead by this guy. The "flat on my strong" guy. I never stuck with it, this was like 12 years ago, but why does John Clements get so much hate? I don't even think the criticism is valid. I've watched Matt Easton talk about how blocking with the flat is bad, but honestly I think all of the HEMA people are micky mouse pussies, no offense. In ARMA it was hardcore. We beat eachother with no protection and I often walked away with bruises and cuts. Personally I feel like that's how it should be. Not this sport fencing bullshit with too much protection. Just pure, raw sword fighting. Personally I've come to the realization that all the fighting techniques are bullshit when it comes to real battles. None of it has anything to do with formations or warfare. But anyway, what's yalls opinion on John Clements? Is he based or just a prick? I never met him, only studied under his peons.
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jun 2024 17:19:17 UTC No. 201321
>>201122
No tonsure, no monk;
also lurk more.
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Jun 2024 17:58:16 UTC No. 201325
>>201321
The text literally refers to them as priests
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Jun 2024 06:11:31 UTC No. 201390
>>201325
Most of the text referes to the priest and the student, in the last pages the students is replaced by Walpurgis.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Jun 2024 07:49:36 UTC No. 201391
>>201325
Thank you for confirming you don't know much about I:33
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 19:03:37 UTC No. 201840
>>195387
How about you fuck off back to pleb bit where you belong
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jun 2024 22:09:21 UTC No. 201857
>>201544
>>201583
>anons will complain about the one sport where they can hit troons no problem
It's like you guys are TRYING to be miserable
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 00:18:48 UTC No. 202187
>>201857
I don't want the company of a mentally ill man who tries to force everyone to participate in his fetish. I don't want the social cancer these retards inevitably inflict upon hobby spaces. I don't want autistic kids getting groomed into self harm. I don't want tomboy genocide. I don't want men invading women's HEMA and creating an environment where my wife and sister don't feel safe in restrooms and changing areas. Troons in HEMA are not a net positive, even if you can hit their safety equipment with blunt swords.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 19:10:22 UTC No. 202257
>be me, poorfag
>trying out local longsword class
>unable to afford all the gear for sparring
>talking with someone else about class
>he says "no helmet or armor anon if this were medieval times I'd cut you in half, easy"
>reply "but this is modern times, so I would just get my gun and shoot you through your armor"
>acts like I said the most upsetting thing
>coaches pull me to the side, tell me to avoid making death threats
>but I was just responding to what he said in a similar way
>you're new here anon, you don't understand
>wtf he said he'd cut me in half
They redirected me to their general etiquette rules and shit, but man, I don't understand that point of that exchange
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:21:04 UTC No. 202267
>>202257
You and the club both sound autistic
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:37:52 UTC No. 202316
>>202257
some people never stop playing pretend
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 22:50:26 UTC No. 202375
>>195383
so this is a completely retarded question but seeing as i cant find a LARP general i thought id ask here
i wanted to use three clubs identical in length as weapons because im playing a jester are there any actual manuals or manuscripts that focus on combat with two one handed weapons?
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:03:55 UTC No. 202378
>>202375
Two equal-length batons is a staple of FMA, you might try their thread if you don't get a good answer here. >>>/xs/eskrima
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:25:41 UTC No. 202381
>>202257
and there lies the fault with most HEMA clubs, they think their version of fencing is more "real"; therefore it is more practical. Then they make the jump and delude themselves into thinking they're learning a practical skill.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 01:06:08 UTC No. 202387
>>202375
The Bolognese school covers two swords, IIRC. Also Giganti but I don't think rapier would translate well to club. You could also kind of use Pringle Green cutlass and pistol, maybe.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:23:48 UTC No. 202398
>>202375
>bro is gonna LARP as a juggalo
I didn't expect people to still be down with the clown.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:34:26 UTC No. 202400
>>202257
You're being a sourpuss nigga.
>>202381
You're being a fag that got owned at sparring and tournaments nigga.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:24:55 UTC No. 202402
>>202398
Some of the very first people I met in Dagorhir 10+ years ago were juggalos. At least one of them routinely went out in public with a painted face, trip pants, and a sleeveless shirt showcasing his hatchetman tattoo.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:48:59 UTC No. 202416
>>202415
Haven't really noticed a juggalo problem in the game, just happened to meet those guys right off the bat. Dagorhir isn't any more of a LARP than HEMA and they both attract some similar subsets of weirdos in my experience.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:07:49 UTC No. 202422
>>202416
>Dagorhir isn't any more of a LARP than HEMA
Nigga you put on costumes. HEMA is experimental archeology.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:28:05 UTC No. 202424
>>195769
I do buhurt. It always makes me laugh when we get a HEMA guy in, and he realizes I ain't stopping just because he's popped me in the head.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:28:07 UTC No. 202425
>>202422
HEMA also puts on costumes, as do most other sports. Dagorhir is boffer combat with no roleplaying game attached. Its combat rules have been used to develop actual LARPs like Amtgard and Darkon but Dagorhir itself technically isn't a LARP.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:07:21 UTC No. 202426
>>202425
>protective equipment is the same as dressing up as an elf
Dude, I...
>>202424
What's your bench brah
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:54:52 UTC No. 202456
>>202426
>Dude, I...
you what, paint fag shit on your mask and wear troon socks to tournaments while LARPing as a swordswoman?
>>202445
>Olympic fencers also put on costumes by that definition
Yes, that's my point. You'd look at least as ridiculous wearing fencing garb in public as you would Dagorhir garb or football pads. Wearing special clothes for a game doesn't make it a LARP. Dagorhir has the Live Action but it is not a Role Playing game--no character sheets, no storyline, no setting, just boffer combat in funny clothes.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:23:04 UTC No. 202475
>>202426
Try telling with a straight face that puffy pants are a necessary protective equipment and not a costume
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:52:02 UTC No. 202488
Lads I have a question
I want to do British military saber. Is the Kvetun Easton mkIII worth the money? Is there a comparable, cheaper alternative?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 17:30:19 UTC No. 202515
>>195383
>>195383
What do you use for target practice at home? I use my boxing standing bag, admittedly since I already have it for boxing, but I also like it cause it provides a moving active target and you can kind of simulate binds with the stand. ofc, on the negative, its a small target and doesn’t quite simulate a whole body.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:19:40 UTC No. 202562
>>202515
I put a hole through a tennis ball and hung it with with paracord.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:20:59 UTC No. 202563
>>202475
I don't wear puffy pants? Take your meds nigger.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:22:09 UTC No. 202565
>>202456
>3 troons paint their face masks therefore all HEMA practitioners do it
Go dress up as an orc or something nigga lmfao.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 02:00:28 UTC No. 202579
>>202565
>3 nerds wear pointy ears and therefore all Dagorhir fighters do it
You might be close to getting it Mr. Poofypants.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 05:34:29 UTC No. 202604
>>202579
Here’s the real difference, retard, HEMA is an actual martial art where the focus is on fighting. Dagorhir, or amtgard, or whatever other LARP group you’re a part of (sca included) is a game with martial elements. Some particularly extra autistic members of HEMA clubs might dress up like historical freifechters, but that is not the end goal of the sport. Contrastingly, larp groups are ABOUT being in character and doing improvisational character acting. If you are honest with yourself, you can admit the martial elements are secondary which is why you don’t just have straight up tournaments like hemafags do and instead create characters and stories for them.
I actually don’t think there’s anything wrong with that if you enjoy it, by the way, but you are being dishonest if you consider it a real martial art.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:41:29 UTC No. 202608
>>202579
Literally every Drahorhir person wears cosplay of some sort. They are dressed up as a fantasy warrior of some sort and sometimes as a fantasy race while at it. I have looked up pictures and never find anyone dressed up in "plain clothes", specially if they are in a tournament.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:43:20 UTC No. 202609
>>202604
You don't know anything about Dagorhir and you're ignoring what I'm telling you about it. Amtgard is a LARP originally built on top of Dagorhir style combat. SCA has some LARP elements depending on what you're doing in the organization. Dagorhir is combat sport/battle game with no story or role playing game attached. Without the martial element there's nothing left to Dagorhir, it's literally the entire game. This has actually been a problem for Dagorhir versus the other organizations because there's no official activity support for non-combatants which limits the options for dragging your family along to events and practices.
>HEMA is an actual martial art where the focus is on fighting
HEMA is a branch of scholarship with a combat sport attached. Dagorhir is a combat sport with loosely historical/fantasy aesthetics attached. I would argue the latter is more focused on actually physically fighting.
>which is why you don’t just have straight up tournaments
Interestingly, the stronger tournament scenes for stick/boffer games in my experience are in some of the LARP groups, likely because they have extra motivation to actually win and have larger participation numbers. Dagorhir often seems to have a weaker talent pool than Amtgard, for example.
>if you consider it a real martial art
I don't know that I consider it a "real martial art" but it's definitely a real combat sport. The worst habit you learn in Dagorhir from a martial arts perspective is not protecting your head since it's not a legal target area (except for projectiles), but otherwise you learn some good body mechanics, grappling entries, aggressive shield work, and so forth. I primarily come from a wrestling background and got to apply that all the time when I fought in Dagorhir; grappling is always allowed by the rules, unlike in HEMA competition. HEMA as a whole is more of a martial art than Dagorhir but sport HEMA in isolation is probably about as much of a "real martial art" as Dagorhir.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:51:10 UTC No. 202611
>>202609
> is combat sport/battle game with no story or role playing game attached. Without the martial element there's nothing left to Dagorhir, it's literally the entire game. This has actually been a problem for Dagorhir versus the other organizations because there's no official activity support for non-combatants which limits the options for dragging your family along to events and practices
Holy fuck so you faggots are so gay you engage in bigger combat as a hobby, despite steel and wood combat being available to you, for no fucking reason with no role playing involved? That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard of. Why are you doing this?
>HEMA is a branch of scholarship with a combat sport attached. Dagorhir is a combat sport with loosely >historical/fantasy aesthetics attached. I would argue the latter is more focused on actually physically fighting.
LOL, Lmao even
> Interestingly, the stronger tournament scenes for stick/boffer games in my experience are in some of the LARP groups, likely because they have extra motivation to actually win and have larger participation numbers. Dagorhir often seems to have a weaker talent pool than Amtgard, for example
Then why are you doing it? I genuinely do not understand. If you want to larp, go to a larp group. If you want to fight, why not do so with wood or steel?
>I don't know that I consider it a "real martial art" but it's definitely a real combat sport
lol
> The worst habit you learn in Dagorhir from a martial arts perspective is not protecting your head since it's not a legal target area
LMAO, there have been studies done showing the head is the second most safest target to attacks, followed by the hands.
>I primarily come from a wrestling background
Ok buddy
> sport HEMA in isolation is probably about as much of a "real martial art" as Dagorhir.
555-555-5555 Come on now
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:52:10 UTC No. 202612
>>202611
> Holy fuck so you faggots are so gay you engage in bigger combat as a hobby, despite steel
*boffer combat
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 06:53:08 UTC No. 202613
>>202609
You say Dragorhir is more physical than HEMA. I say, again, what's your bench brah.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:02:39 UTC No. 202614
>>202608
>Literally every HEMA person wears cosplay of some sort. They are dressed up as a renaissance beekeeper of some sort and sometimes as a fantasy gender while at it. I have looked up pictures and never find anyone dressed up in "plain clothes", specially if they are in a tournament.
You're more likely to see Dagorhir fighters in plain clothes at weekly practices, though the culture around that varies by region. Larger events have rules about attire. Costume as a sport uniform does not equal a roleplaying game.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:10:20 UTC No. 202615
>>202614
>HEMAfags are troons even tho it's a loud minority while cosplay is mandatory for boffer tournaments.
Stop being so disingenious, bro.
Again, what's your bench son? This is the third time I ask, and you won't even acknowledge my request. Makes me think you are a pencil necked nerd and not the "true fighter" you claim to be while calling us sissy fags as a whole collective.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:13:03 UTC No. 202616
>>202614
You write this as if hemafags don’t wear normal gym clothes when they’re not in kit. You’re completely deranged.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:13:41 UTC No. 202617
>>202611
>f you want to fight, why not do so with wood or steel?
Two main reasons:
1) It's the cheapest. You can build a sword for ~$10 and you don't need any other equipment. You can just show up, borrow a cheap loaner stick, and start swinging.
2) There's a different set of safety concessions when you pad the weapons instead of the fighters. I like grappling and can do that more in Dagorhir than SCA (which I also like) or steel combat (which usually stops on the ground).
>LMAO, there have been studies done showing the head is the second most safest target to attacks, followed by the hands.
This goes back to the point of safety concessions. A Dagorhir sword is built to be incapable of causing deep bruises or breaking bones (though it can happen) so hits aren't really a safety concern unless they're rattling your brain box.
>If you want to larp, go to a larp group.
It's fun to fight without the complication of a roleplaying game. Even the LARP groups that do boffer combat (Amtgard, Darkon, etc.) have martial practices where they stickfight without the LARP element attached.
>Ok buddy
Wrestling is the only combat sport present in pretty much every single school in America, I don't know why that sounds less plausible than being into the comparatively rare sports of stick and sword fighting.
>>202613
I've been slacking after moving to a new place (no nerdfighting, either) but last time I was in the gym:
bench 5x5 235lbs
squat 5x5 385lbs
deadlift 5x5 415lbs
I used to do a lot of high-rep stuff for wrestling and not worry too much about 1RM but I want to pull 500lbs off the ground at least once in my life.
>You say Dragorhir is more physical than HEMA
It's a different kind of physicality, you can haul off and punch people with the edge of your shield and grappling is always part of the game. I like both fighting formats.
>>202615
What's your deadlift?
>the "true fighter" you claim to be while calling us sissy fags as a whole collective
You are illiterate.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:18:30 UTC No. 202618
>>202616
You're either illiterate or stupid. My point is that both HEMAfags and Dag fighters wear normal clothes when they're not in kit. I've worn gym clothes, jeans, and milsurp pants to both. Neither HEMA events nor Dagorhir battles are Live Action RolePlaying games, they're just fighting games with goofy aesthetics.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:18:47 UTC No. 202619
>>202617
I can diddly 460 for 3 reps.
Btw I doubt you did 5x5 for deadlift cause no one basically does that. And less so with that much weight. I don't believe you did that much deadlift volume every fucking week. So I hope those aren't made up numbers.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:20:19 UTC No. 202620
>>202617
Many HEMA tournaments have grappling involved. Holy shit dude you have no ides about HEMA and it shows.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:21:55 UTC No. 202621
>>202609
>HEMA is a branch of scholarship with a combat sport attached.
There are way more poofypants and painted mask wearers than treatise readers out there
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:23:01 UTC No. 202622
>>202621
Samefag. Or a jsafag fucking around.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:38:13 UTC No. 202626
>>202619
>I can diddly 460 for 3 reps.
Nice. You have any goals on that front or are you just trying to stay strong?
>Btw I doubt you did 5x5 for deadlift cause no one basically does that.
That's not even that much from an athletics perspective. I was doing 3x18 (lighter weights, obviously) two days a week when I was staying in wrestling shape. I figured to focus on getting stronger for the sake of getting stronger instead of focusing on muscular endurance for wrestling I should do heavier sets of fewer reps and 5x5 seemed like a good meme number so I stuck with that for a while for the big three.
>>202620
>Many
Not all? Was that maybe what I said? Read twice before you reply.
>>202621
Is that a new-ish trend? A regional preference? When I was dabbling in HEMA a few years back there were a lot of guys who wanted to ramble on about theory and do slow work instead of suit up and spar, part of why I stuck to retard stickdork sports--already had enough reading to do without holding book club during gym time.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:59:50 UTC No. 202630
>>202626
These "book" theory nerds you cry so much about have fucking pwned me at sparring even with me being younger and fitter than them, so you should probably show them some respect instead of being existentially scared of theory.
My goal is pulling 480lb for 3 reps.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 08:11:12 UTC No. 202632
>>202630
I'm not scared of theory or crying about nerds, I just don't want to stand around and have an academic debate during what should be a fighting practice. Outside of scheduled fighting time I'll happily talk theory and I'll gladly show up to scheduled slow work, but when it's time to spar it's time to spar.
I actually have a fencing book in my reading rotation right now, pic related. I saw it recommended in the Olympic fencing thread. I've barely started it but it's a fun read so far.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 09:29:44 UTC No. 202636
>>202626
>I was doing 3x18 (lighter weights, obviously) two days a week when I was staying in wrestling shape.
Just curious, what weights did you use for squat bench and deadlift when you trained them for 3x18? If you did rows I'm also interested
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 12:55:40 UTC No. 202651
>>202632
What weapons do you practice?
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 21:01:07 UTC No. 202674
>>202632
I was the one who reccommended that book. I also am baffled at your reasoning that you would rather do boffer fighting than steel fighting because you think HEMA in real life is constant academic debate in real life rather than just on the internet.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 21:33:42 UTC No. 202683
>>202651
>larpfag
Not only is he a master with every single medieval implement out there, western, eastern, and otherwise, he is the king of all combat forms, could win the olympics if he wanted to (he's smart but lazy) singlehandedly beat all of Russia, and is so tough when he once got shot at the bullets got scared and crawled back into the gun
There is no arguing with larpfags, their egos are off the charts for how shitty their "sport" actually is. The adult version of kids genuinely thinking winning in fortnite is the same as being on seal team 6
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:21:02 UTC No. 202738
>>202636
I honestly don't remember; if I find my old gym notebook before the thread dies I'll post it. It fluctuated a good bit depending on what felt right in the context of recovery and the other training I had going on.
>>202651
lately I've been training the following weapons at home, in order of priority:
>pistol (daily holster work and dryfire for anywhere from 1 minute to 1 hour, make it out to the range roughly every other month)
>FMA knife (most days of the week, brief drills as the mood strikes)
>Olympic epee (a few times a week as the mood strikes)
>SCA single-handed stick (same as epee)
>rifle and carbine (dry fire roughly once a week, live fire same as pistol)
In the near future I want to study HEMA staff techniques. I'll probably take SCA stick and Olympic epee out of the rotation for that. It's always intrigued me as a historical weapon and seems like a practical skill to have when hiking, just need to get around to finding a good staff (looking at Purpleheart hardwood and/or rattan staves) and finishing up a few books that are cutting into treatise reading time/energy. If anyone knows of any good compendiums of staff resources please let me know, otherwise I'll just be scouring Wiktenauer.
In the past I've been in an Olympic fencing club and have trained lightly with some HEMA rapier guys. I've done FMA knife, baton, and machete work. I've mostly fought in Dagorhir and SCA heavy and to a lesser extent in SCA fencing, Amtgard, and Darkon.
>>202674
My main reasons for favoring boffer over steel historically are availability, convenience, and cost. My particular gripe with the specific HEMA groups I encountered in real life are as I described but I understand that there's a full club spectrum from all-sport to all-academic. My personal sample size is small because I've never lived anywhere where HEMA was bigger than SCA or boffer games.
>>202683
Was it in-character or out-of-character when the elf-eared LARPer fucked your troonwife?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 21:09:56 UTC No. 202741
>>202738
>I honestly don't remember; if I find my old gym notebook before the thread dies I'll post it. It fluctuated a good bit depending on what felt right in the context of recovery and the other training I had going on.
Pls post even in new thread, really interested.
>>pistol (daily holster work and dryfire for anywhere from 1 minute to 1 hour, make it out to the range roughly every other month)
Do you train for IPSC?
Seems like you become very weapon focused (I don't see a lot of wrestlers that lift heavy turn to
training to use different weapons, usually such people go to BJJ or just stick to lifting). Why? Is there any philosophy behind this turn?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 23:16:58 UTC No. 202753
>>202738
>>202738
>I do a bunch of home practice
Nigger please this is what you sound like
>pistol (CoD)
>rifle (Fortnite)
>Sniper rifle (Halo)
>Shotgun (CoD again)
>demolitions and explosives (R6 Siege)
>Longsword (Dark Souls)
>Polearms (Dynasty Warriors)
>Lightsaber (Battlefront II)
>Karate (Street Fighter)
>Dragon Shouts (Skyrim)
I'm reminded now of 90s guys who insisted they were too lethal for regular sports practice, only to be noodle-armed mcdojo bitches or mcfattyfats
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 23:32:03 UTC No. 202754
>>202738
>bro I know everything, I troon at home all the time by myself with no one around
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
fuck off, lol
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 00:28:48 UTC No. 202760
Wtf
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 05:27:53 UTC No. 202787
>>202741
>Pls post even in new thread, really interested.
Will do. Might take a while because it's packed away and I don't know where.
>Do you train for IPSC?
I should get into that someday but I just shoot casually with my friends when I visit my hometown. We have shot timers but we mainly use them to analyze what we're currently trying or to score short impromptu challenges. Some of those guys actually travel to compete in different formats, some of them are just gun autists, and some of them are content to show up and magdump into the berm. Trying to stay good enough to not get accused of being one of the ones who merely magdump into the berm is a decent motivator.
>usually such people go to BJJ
I did judo for a bit and I really enjoyed it. Should go back to it.
>you become very weapon focused
>Why?
Largely because I grew up in rural America shooting and hunting while reading fantasy novels, folk tales, and history books. By the time I started wrestling in first grade I knew how to safely shoot a .22 from rest and had toy swords that I used for chasing birds around ponds at the parks. I used to read the Museum Replicas Limited catalogues back when they had longer historical blurbs and made a couple wooden swords with my grandfather and great-grandfather. Knights and cowboys (knights of the Old West) were the coolest guys a kid could grow up to be. I saw a theater production of Don Quixote for a Spanish class field trip and found him relatable.
>Is there any philosophy behind this
A man has a duty to be capable of protecting his family, and a Citizen his community. Some Socrates bits along those lines that I like:
>Xenophon's Memorabilia 3.12
>Socrates chastises his friend for not staying in good enough shape to be useful to society
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hoppe
>Xenophon's Memorabilia 1.6.1-10
>Socrates mocks a sophist for promoting soft lifestyles which ruin men
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hoppe
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 05:51:59 UTC No. 202788
>>202753
>>202754
I'm sorry you're too mentally ill for your parents to let you keep firearms in their basement. I'm training at home because I moved to the middle of nowhere and the nearest martial clubs are at least an hour away. Any sport or martial art I've ever trained from organized sports in school to literal LARPs has recommended solo training in between practices/classes, anyway. What's your home routine?
>bro I know everything
I'm not claiming anything close to that. I have mediocre exposure to several things and solid exposure to a few. My stated current training volume is low and not at all impressive. Go for a run or do some hard pell work to calm yourself down before reading and replying next time.
>pistol (friends/father)
>rifle (father/grandfather/friends)
>Sniper rifle (I want to learn PRS from my friends but have never shot past ~300yd and have never had to use a DOPE card or calculator)
>Shotgun (father/grandfather)
>demolitions and explosives (wrecking bar and sledgehammer; fireworks on the 4th of July)
>Longsword (held a HEMA longsword a few times and messed around with a longsword-shaped stick in SCA, would definitely like to properly learn longsword fencing someday)
>Polearms (Dagorhir/SCA only)
>Lightsaber (I have a flashlight in my pocket)
>Karate (three trial classes at two schools)
>Dragon Shouts (anyone can yell at asian people)
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:01:14 UTC No. 202805
>>202788
Dude, this anon (>>202683) fucking called out your bullshit before you even wrote it out. You don’t do shit, have a million excuses, and still claim to be master of everything.
Fuck right off lol.
>hurr durr muh guns
I’m an American, buying and owning a gun is trivial and if you think dry firing at your mirror like Travis Bickle makes you a badass then you’re a retard.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:06:28 UTC No. 202806
>>202805
You are illiterate.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:14:46 UTC No. 202809
>>202806
Noooooo you read my whole cope post, I’m not claiming to be a master of everything I’m just saying that I’m a demolitions expert because of Fourth of July fireworks
Lmfao, nah. train in real life and then I’ll give a shit. You talk like a 12 year old with something to prove.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:24:38 UTC No. 202813
>>202809
>I’m just saying that I’m a demolitions expert because of Fourth of July fireworks
Literally the opposite of what I'm saying you fucking retard. Are you ESL or do you have a severe learning disability?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 15:57:30 UTC No. 202815
>>202813
Cry more, you don’t train. Gtfo of the thread
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 16:14:45 UTC No. 202816
>>202815
>t. doesn't own a pell
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 16:29:27 UTC No. 202818
>>202816
>t. https://youtu.be/OYWGF8Hrkg8?featur
If you are so retarded that you don’t recognize that drilling at home is only supplemental to actual training there’s no point in talking to you.
Imagine being a LARPer who LARPs as a HEMA fencer lol
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 16:32:36 UTC No. 202819
>>202818
>recognize that drilling at home is only supplemental to actual training
I do recognize that. If you had reading comprehension you would have realized that. You're getting worked up over things we probably agree on because you can't read.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 16:47:07 UTC No. 202820
>>202819
>worked up
Lmfao, nice projection from the retard boffer guy who doesn’t actually train
Imagine LARPing as a LARPer
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 16:54:44 UTC No. 202824
>>202820
Caesar LARPed as Alexander, et cetera. If you're not LARPing as a LARPing LARPer who LARPs what are you even doing?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 17:10:34 UTC No. 202825
I am the LARPer what LARPs at midnight
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 10:44:19 UTC No. 202889
>>202738
>at home
Only really useful as a noob when it comes to HEMA or FMA or olympic type fencing. Homeboy you gots to spar.
>muh HEMA equipment is too expensive
dude you are practicing like 10 things at once
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 10:48:53 UTC No. 202890
>>202788
Post body.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:45:51 UTC No. 202901
>>202889
>Only really useful as a noob
Everybody does solo drills for skill refinement, reinforcement, and maintenance until you're at the level that you pay someone to act the part of your grappling dummy/heavy bag/pell/etc. The best grapplers, fencers, and stick fighters I've personally met all engaged in solo training (in addition to regular training, obviously).
>Homeboy you gots to spar.
No shit. There's no one around to spar anymore, see: "I moved to the middle of nowhere and the nearest martial clubs are at least an hour away." Until I figure out how to get a raccoon to stand en garde or find a neighbor with the right kind of autism my only option for now is training on my own.
>muh HEMA equipment is too expensive
It was back in the day when I was first getting into this stuff as a broke college student. A full set of protective kit plus steel weapon is more expensive than a single boffer sword made with a PVC pipe and dense camp pad foam.
>dude you are practicing like 10 things at once
I'm doing very, very minimal skills maintenance with some of the weapons I've picked up over the years.
>>202890
You could have an Aldo Nadi or Adolfo Cotronei physique and still agree with my points that:
>Dagorhir has no character sheets, story lines, etc. and is therefore not a RolePlaying game by definition
>the full corpus of scholastic wrestling is allowed at every Dagorhir event; different stick/sword sports have different grappling rules
>boffer with no worn safety equipment is substantially cheaper than blunt steel with worn safety equipment
>solo training is useful as a supplement to group practice, or to keep the rust off when group practice is unavailable, in essentially every sport
I don't claim that solo practice beats live practice or that Dagorhir, etc. is superior to any other stick/sword nerd sport. Genuinely not sure why you're finding any of this controversial.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 16:56:14 UTC No. 202905
>>202901
>people who use books and theory in swordfights are retards
>no anon you're the retard
>actually I do foam sports and a bunch of other stuff too, I'm an expert, bookfags don't know shit
>foam sports are gay and the other shit is gay self-practice you don't know shit
>waah why is everyone so mean i just want to get respected as a foam sword knifefighter gunman pro shooter sca king olympic fencer that I know I am I just don't have anyone to spar with
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 17:45:39 UTC No. 202908
>>202905
I will reiterate my suspicion regarding your literacy. You are tilting at windmills and strawmen.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jul 2024 18:02:41 UTC No. 202909
>>202908
>noooo I didn't say that shit you're all understanding ym masterswordman black ops rifleman skills and words wrong
Going to link you post by post then, bitch
>bookfags are retards: by you
>>202632
>people calling you a retard
>>202620
>>202621
>>202630
>No I'm a tough cool guy who has guns skills and foam skills: you
>>202738
>everyone pointing out self practice is meme and you're a fag
>>202753
>>202754
>>202805
>waaah I'm right you're wrong respect my foam dick please: you
>>202901
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 02:05:45 UTC No. 202937
>>202933
His excuses make no sense because he’s literally just coping. Bofferfags are lazy and stupid but want to be thought of as a real martial art.
It’s really embarrassing considering HEMA is itself thought of as a dork sport amongst other martial artists. Imagine being the dork’s dork.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:18:26 UTC No. 202969
>>202909
An astonishing lack of reading comprehension. I don't think bookfags (other than myself) are retards and I don't think any of my hobbies are exceptional. If you're ESL and having trouble understanding English syntax I would be happy to work through any confusing sentences with you.
>>202933
Sometimes, yes. However, the clubs with the most loaner equipment tend to charge the highest fees. The less-stocked clubs I've seen have much less loaner equipment for sparring and still charge more of a fee to practice than boffer sports, which typically have zero fees for practice and only charge to cover site rentals for events. This would be less of a factor for me today but was a deterrent when I was a student with no money. It's also relevant to consider cost if you're the one organizing a group: you can get a lot more people swinging swords/sticks if you can make them for under $10 each and don't need to buy protective clothing in many different sizes and that smaller pile of loaner equipment will be easier to transport to whatever park you use for practice.
>>202937
HEMA clubs are a lot harder to find than boffer sports or SCA in America in my personal experience. As an example, one of my interactions with HEMA was in a city where the guy who ran the local HEMA school would train with the SCA fencing group to try to recruit there and to fence far more people than he had available at his HEMA classes. Maybe you live in some city or foreign country where HEMA has greater popularity but that's what I've encountered in a number of regions stateside over the last 15 years or so. SCA started in the 1960s and Dagorhir in the 1970s but HEMA didn't really start to take off until the 1980s or 1990s so the former two are much more established here.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 15:38:39 UTC No. 202977
>>202969
How many times do you have to get btfo before you leave the thread? Are you just pretending to be retarded?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:44:22 UTC No. 203012
>>202977
I don't feel BTFO at all. I've been in /hema/ off and on since /xs/ started and I'm not going to leave just because one retard can't read.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:27:36 UTC No. 203035
>itt: LARPfag who just got executed pretends the thread secretly loves him and he’s the cornerstone of Hema general
Next you’ll be putting on a trip code and acting like even more of a faggot
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 00:48:30 UTC No. 203046
>>203012
>one retard
Holy cope
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jul 2024 01:17:52 UTC No. 203050
>itt: illiterate loon tilting at strawmen
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:50:55 UTC No. 203327
>>196641
imagine playing dnd and complaining about trannies and fags
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:28:40 UTC No. 203331
>>203327
D&D stays at the game table. Troons try to get you to participate in their fetish roleplay anywhere you find them.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:47:55 UTC No. 203335
>>195383
>Where can I find these treatises?
Do you guys have physical books that you like? It'd be cool if somebody had a project going like the Loeb Classical Library but for HEMA texts.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:00:46 UTC No. 203346
>>203183
Why asking us when you can directly ask to Fiore. That's the point of Fiore's Mail.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:42:11 UTC No. 203357
Newfag here. The closest club to me is about an hour from where I am and it seems they meet 1-2 times a week. Is a commute to a from a place this far normal for you guys?
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:59:09 UTC No. 203359
>>203357
When I was a teenager I used to drive 45 minutes twice a week to do judo since I was in small town with nothing else around. I know people who drive over an hour to do HEMA with my club today. Whether or not that’s worthwhile is up to you.
Start listening to audiobooks in the car or something if you do decide to do this and it won’t feel like wasted time
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 04:38:31 UTC No. 203363
>>203359
Will do anon. Would you also recommend practicing forms and stances at home or with your club under proper guidance?
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 04:57:24 UTC No. 203365
>>203363
Ask your coach about what stuff you should be drilling at home, don’t just start watching YouTube videos and try to figure shit out from there. You can do that after you have a good grasp on the basics. To many new guys get way too excited and start trying to learn techniques they don’t properly understand the use case or movements for.
When you first start, en gaurde is going to feel like an incredibly awkward position. As is the basic footwork. Once you have someone show you how to sit and how to step proper you can start drilling that at home then get feedback when you return. Just remember, the value of home drilling as a beginner is not learning new things but reinforcing the things you are already being coached on. This shit is probably going to be boring but it will help you immensely in the long run.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 07:51:00 UTC No. 203381
>>203363
Remember
>good coach acts like the retard in the fight so you learn how to move properly and take advantage of certain scenarios
>bad coach tells you to act like a retard, fight slow, and pull punches because he's so cool and awesome he needs to show how he's the badass
Understandably, there's a mix, especially when coach needs to teach you proper form, but you'll pick up quick which coaches actually want to see you grow and which are the faggots trying to jerk off about being an ebin swordfightan mastah (who will still lose to Meth Mac and the hipoint he got 20 minutes ago)
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 14:42:47 UTC No. 203396
>>203381
You sound like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 19:24:32 UTC No. 203422
Could there be made something like those VR haptic suits that make you feel pain using electrodes, but instead of it being a videogame thing, it's something you wear under the jacket so it makes you feel pain whenever you get cut or stabbed by the opponent's practice sword? Shouldn't be too complicated or unsafe, right?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 07:46:30 UTC No. 203484
>>203422
Please don't push your bdsm fantasy on HEMA, we already have to deal with too many freaks.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 08:09:31 UTC No. 203485
>>203484
Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door, /sp/ is two blocks down.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 12:21:58 UTC No. 203509
>>195383
Oh no HEMAsisters! we got too cocky
>>16827999
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 12:22:59 UTC No. 203510
>>203509
>>>/his/16827999
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jul 2024 15:46:28 UTC No. 203523
>>203509
>even tho /his/ knows as much history as the history channel
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:06:31 UTC No. 203908
>hating on the meyer puffy pants
I get painting your mask.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:58:07 UTC No. 203912
>>203509
>>203510
>/his/ is full of complete and utter retards who don’t know or care about history
Is this supposed to be news? Have you not seen the 50 daily thread on how aryans were actually every single society in history? They “we wuz” harder than the black Israelites.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 21:03:18 UTC No. 204175
>>203422
People will do anything except buy gear and go spar.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 22:02:09 UTC No. 204183
How can a complete newbie know if a place is good or not?
There's an open even this 21 at a local club (the only club), I'll go to check things out and maybe register myself, But I want to know what I should look for, if there's even anything to look out for. I'm interested in sword and rapier, they seem to only do longsword but there is one video of someone using a rapier and dagger.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 06:57:45 UTC No. 204257
Retard, here.
I don't have access to a car at the moment so I don't have access to a HEMA club.
Is there like a good youtube channel that'll take me through drills or something so I can fuck around in my room?
I'm not expecting to git gud this way what I'm thinking is maybe I can be fit enough to hold a sword and shield up for a whole session without getting gassed if I fuck around now.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:45:06 UTC No. 204269
>>204175
This is for sparring thoe. Learn to read. You wear it under your jacket as you spar.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:12:17 UTC No. 204288
>>204269
I don’t blame him for not actually reading your post, it was cringe and fucking stupid.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:35:02 UTC No. 204317
>>204269
>This is for sparring thoe.
Nah you want to try something stupid to make a video or get attention, which would take away from your time sparring like a normal person. Stop trying to be a hematuber, just put your gear on, and spar.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:38:10 UTC No. 204318
>>204257
>Is there like a good youtube channel that'll take me through drills or something so I can fuck around in my room
What's your weapon? How high are your ceilings? Your light fixtures are in danger.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:17:25 UTC No. 204330
im considering attempting this hobby, but all of the videos of it seem to be so boring. it doesnt even really look like a workout, the weapons are light and you never use power since thats irrelevant when youre just trying to tap a person literally anywhere to get a point, or whatever. all the nuances im sure there was originally in sword fighting is reduced to 'hey look ive trained my dexterity at manipulating a stick in front of my body'. i mean, obviously i know nothing as a complete outsider. im not sure that it looks fun. i dont think i have seen any clip that could be considered a showcase of athleticism, at best just wheeling the stick around quickly to graze someones finger, and then they seperate. is there any other viewing material than this kind of thing?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:20:40 UTC No. 204332
>>204330
is there some form of the 'sparring' where you dont instantly separate the moment someone touches the other person once? do you get more points if you hit in particular areas?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 09:54:37 UTC No. 204335
>>204330
Yes, HEMA is boring to watch. I recommed you to find another sport more suitable for your taste
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:22:56 UTC No. 204336
>>204330
It's probably boring to watch most of the time unless you participate enough to understand the nuances of what you're watching or imaginative enough to envision what wounds would be created by each scoring hit.
>a showcase of athleticism
What does this mean to you?
>>204332
You might like buhurt.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:35:37 UTC No. 204347
>>204336
okay. im sure there is a lot more nuance involved then how it looks. also, i just hoped that maybe it was physically demanding enough to incentivize getting fit, im searching for that life long hobby that will be both fun and a reason for me to always stay in shape.
my last question is: how likely would you say it might be to sustain a moderate blow to the head doing this, compared to something like kickboxing. also, this buhurt thing is wacky, interesting and thank you.
im sure any of you would attest that this is a fun hobby. just wish i didnt have a medical issue that might prevent me from trying something like kickboxing. this is what happens when you wait too long to get into something youre interested in, your capability just fades away..
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:51:17 UTC No. 204348
>>204347
sorry to come into your thread all negative. my favorite place is the entire world is the renaissance faire. i am desperately needing to try to meet people roughly my age and in my area. I am guessing that the HEMA club 30 min drive away might be one of the only places. I am guessing that the people there could be similar to me. i also know that the hema place here performs at the ren faire sometimes, which sounds fun. sadly if there is similar precedent for head blows to kickboxing ill just have to take up knitting instead. god damn it, i just wanted to get into a combat sport.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:58:15 UTC No. 204353
>>204330
>>204347
>the weapons are light
>i just hoped that maybe it was physically demanding enough to incentivize getting fit
The weapons are weighted to be pretty close to the real thing. If you're not already fit, then I guarantee you'll gas out quickly should you ever spar.
>you never use power since thats irrelevant when youre just trying to tap a person literally anywhere to get a point
People don't just stand there and let you tap them. You need power for many actions in HEMA.
>just wish i didnt have a medical issue
such as?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:24:53 UTC No. 204354
>>204353
okay, those are encouraging things to hear. my only issue is significant retinal thinning from my very shit vision. they say it causes significantly higher risk of retinal detachment from a blow to the head. i have absolutely no clue how careful i need to be or if it is even significant. my eye doctor said 'live your life, basically anything should be okay except for something like boxing' so im really at a loss. my vision is -8 diopter which is like twice as bad as when they first telling you you have high myopia and thus retinal thinning. i dont FEEL fragile. ugh, sorry for polluting your thread with all this bullshit. i need a meeting people hobby that i will actually enjoy desperately.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:36:30 UTC No. 204356
>>204354
US President Teddy Roosevelt took up judo/jiu-jitsu after detaching a retina during a boxing match and deciding that a President shouldn't be blind in both eyes.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 16:06:14 UTC No. 204407
>>204354
It's certainly possible to take a hard hit to the head, but it's rare
In a year of longsword sparring I got hit maybe twice in the head with any force, but it was never all that bad through the helmet. Not remotely close to a concussion
Generally your opponent isn't going to put full power into a swing.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 16:11:07 UTC No. 204409
>>204257
i don't mean to piss on your parade but you will learn so many bad habits
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 16:32:31 UTC No. 204412
>>204407
sounds safe enough. i am currently researching parallel things to HEMA to try and get myself more interested, things like larping, and this 'buhurt' thing which i probably couldnt do but its funny watching these people trundling around wacking each other clumsily.
researching other uses for a sword training thing is helping make this more interesting. i genuinely looked at larp stuff for several hours yesterday
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 18:30:46 UTC No. 204424
>>195383
Something I always found neat was the single gauntlet often worn on the offhand by cavalry during the english civil war. To protect their rein arm.
It would be interesting if there was a fighting style that incorporated it on foot. I could see someone holding up their gauntleted fist to protect their head like the back hand in a boxing stance while the main arm wields a sword.
I know something similar was done in Pringle Green's Naval treatise, but using a pistol flipped backwards as an off hand arm guard.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:09:57 UTC No. 204434
any red flags you can see on the website for this local place?
https://www.steelringacademy.com/
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 02:58:44 UTC No. 204444
>>204434
flags arent red idiot.
They are black and white like a checker board.
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 04:14:51 UTC No. 204447
>>203357
I have to do basically that. Honestly you're lucky to have anything available at all, it's a pretty niche hobby.
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 04:24:44 UTC No. 204448
Why does gayszlen make losers so fucking mad?
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:02:39 UTC No. 204488
>>203357
I live in a major city with 4-6 clubs in it and my commute within this city on public transport is about an hour for any one of those clubs. Yeah, it's pretty normal.
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jul 2024 23:57:33 UTC No. 204502
>>204448
They mad cause bad.
>Captcha: RAPR
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 00:35:59 UTC No. 204511
>>204444
it looks okay right, i might be trying this relatively soon...
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 02:41:44 UTC No. 204520
>>204488
>I live in a major city with 4-6 clubs in it
Very nice
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:17:38 UTC No. 204562
im guessing essentially everyone uses this longsword, and if you invested in a different weapon it would just cause problems most of the time? im guessing its not so much about 'choose a path' at the beginning?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 19:19:41 UTC No. 204574
>>204562
Which longsword?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 19:44:38 UTC No. 204577
>>204574
sorry im dumb, i just meant 'longsword' in a general sense, as opposed to one of these other weapon types. im asking about how likely it would be to ever attempt approaching a different hema weapon. seems like all the clubs just use longsword right? if you walked in with some other hema weapon, would they be forced to give you the time of day?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:33:47 UTC No. 204578
>>204562
>>204577
Seems like you've fallen victim to a common misunderstanding here, where you "choose your weapon/style" and then fight others with their own weapons/styles in mixed sparring. HEMA is not like this, it's virtually 100% matched weapons, and most of the variation within the remaining scrap of a percent is just people doing rapier with asymmetric off-hand devices. In fact, a club doing a lot of mixed weapon sparring is one of the surest signs of a McDojo there is in HEMA. There are a number of reasons for this, of which the chief two are that all the historical treatises cover matched weapons almost exclusively, and that there's very little actual art in mixed weapons fighting: one guy just has a clear advantage and will use 2-3 simple methods on repeat to assfuck the other guy.
Having said that, yes, longsword is the most common HEMA weapon and if you roll up to longsword night you'll have to do longsword or leave. Second most common is rapier, then sabre, then sidesword, then all other shit is in a small lump of eccentricism on the side of those. Note that many clubs do several different weapons on different days (evenings) of the week. It's actually pretty rare for a club to be strictly longsword-only unless it's very new.
It ought to be obvious that you can never *force* anyone to give you the time of day with any weapon whatever, also. Where would the force come from?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:34:28 UTC No. 204579
>>204577
Really depends on the club. Most clubs are focused on learning one set of material; it's not like they hate you for doing a different set, they just won't want to do it with you, they're focusing on something else. Like if you went to a pickleball club and wanted to play tennis;
>okay but that's not what we do here.
Like any other martial art choice, which type you commit to depends almost entirely on which clubs you have available to you. If you're near a longsword club and all they do is longsword and you want to do HEMA, you better do longsword. But if you're near a Spanish smallsword club and they all do smallsword and you want to do HEMA, you better do smallsword. Or if you're near a Slavic saber club you better get a saber. Only if you're lucky enough to have more than one option can you start thinking about your preferences between Italian single sword or German longsword or Spanish rapier or whatever it is that's available.
If you're stuck practicing on your own you can do whatever you want, and if the idea is to plan ahead for when you might be able to join others; German longsword is very popular, yes, and would be a good option.
Are you thinking about needing to buy something?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 21:31:39 UTC No. 204583
>>204577
>seems like all the clubs just use longsword right?
You’re retarded
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 22:06:39 UTC No. 204587
>>204578
>in mixed weapons fighting: one guy just has a clear advantage
It's a fun handicap when there's a sizeable skill gap.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 00:12:07 UTC No. 204601
>>204583
sometimes, people use the word all, colloquially to mean the vast majority anon!
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 00:48:29 UTC No. 204603
>>204579
>>204578
thank you very much. im getting closer to going in for a trial class.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:22:28 UTC No. 204634
>>204601
>most clubs only use longsword
That’s still retarded, retard
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jul 2024 17:59:53 UTC No. 204653
>>204603
Yeah, just go for it man. Don't ruminate too long, go find out.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jul 2024 17:54:36 UTC No. 204998
>>195460
>anime website
>anime mods
>anime jannies
>anime threads
sorry zoomer, you have to go back
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 03:03:42 UTC No. 205131
what do you think about poleaxes? They are the ultimate weapon:
>pointy stick
>hammer
>axe
>spearhead
>hardened staff
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:46:45 UTC No. 205262
I am incredibly bad at sparring with the rapier. I get mindblocked and don't know where to even begin. Doesn't happen as much when doing longsword, saber, or sword and buckler. Feels like I have hit a plateau like after 5 months of HEMA when it comes to the rapier. How do I git gud at sparring so I don't get constantly fucking smoked? Should I speak about this with an instructor or something?
t. has been into HEMA for 14 months
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:51:33 UTC No. 205353
>>204653
i actually managed to get myself out there today. finally getting to attempt a hobby such as this. it was fun, it ticked all the boxes that i had drawn up for potential long term hobby to invest in. i was very clumsy. the footwork is confusing to me. but it was my first day. more importantly than anything else, i liked the people who were there. definitely seemed like fellas i could get along with easily. surprised at myself that i managed to actually go in after a week of shitposting and being stressed. ill be going back on tuesday. i will try to... figure out the footwork or some sort of basic drill on my own in the meantime, i guess. im looking forward to getting up to the skill floor. i bet the sparring is fun.
they had me sparring, on the first day, i used someones loaner equipment and the jacket was just used by a guy, completely wet all the way through with his sweat, my dogs were like why the fuck do oyu smell like a different person when i came back. it was funny though. the feder is slioghtly heavier than i expected it to feel, which is good. my 'sparring; was with a kind fella who came at me so incredibly slowly, so retardedly slowly but clearly it was necissary since i was fumbling. i didnt want to just use my instinctual reactions, i was trying to remember the ocean of shit the instructor had poured into my ear earlier. feels like it will be along time until i am competent. but since i liked the people i will be back. this will probably become my serious hobby in time now. the people were nerdy but not too nerdy. one guy immediately, i mean immediately started talking to me the moment i walked in and invited me to this larping group, lmao. im looking at the discord he sent me to right now. wacky stuff. maybe, after awhile i could try that. i just cant believe how quick he was to invite me to this thing, it's like he was a paid recruiter or something. really funny though.
also gave me a bit of back pain after
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jul 2024 02:40:39 UTC No. 205356
>>205353
do any of you have some sort of basic noob bitch video with some repetative drill i can do over and over while holding a stick or something, id like to be a little more comfortable with the footwork and the super basic cuts next time..
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 15:58:33 UTC No. 205840
>>205356
This is something you should ask your new club. It sounds like they are friendly, almost to a fault. Just ask for what you can do at home so class isn't just learning what you forgot between classes.
Doing the wrong solo drills or doing them improperly will just grow bad habits. Unlearning shit is harder than learning shit.
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 17:21:37 UTC No. 205853
>>205840
i had day two yesterday. it feels like a place that is sort of less serious and very inclusive. im excited to continue. about half of the people there were these mega nerds, and they were all vetting me trying to probe and see if i was nerdy like them. I am of course, but i dont really look it or act like it. i made the mistake of telling my family about this hobby today. just severe gatekeeping, when women hear about something that may be considered nerdy they immediately segue into 'do any of the boys there have girlfriends?' because thats how women differentiate between an evil, pedophilic rapist man and a normal man, if any woman has graced the male in question with the enormous privilege of basking in their radiance. they dont want me associating with people who might be nerdy. well, they can go fuck themselves, this is the most interesting sport ive seen so far and yes, it definitely does seem like that turbo nerds are my people or at least i can get along with them very easily. i went out with all the instructors to a bar after class and i was like, these are absolutely my people after all!
now im having some sort of 'who am i' crisis today. i shant tell anyone about this hobby every again, people just dont understand anything. particularly women whose brains can only ever operate in the realm of 'pop culture social currency is the only form of value that exists'
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 17:34:54 UTC No. 205856
>>205853
i should note that they definitely do have very experienced people in there so im not concerned that there wont be like, enough serious people so i can get actually good at the hobby. theres definitely plenty of talent. maybe i have to admit that i felt slightly unsure about the amount of giga nerds there. but i also may be one of them myself, just repressed. or perhaps i think that im better than them and that i should invest in a hobby with more attractive people? ive always felt most at home around nerdy folk. i dont even know. im just dumping paragraphs of shit here to try and clear out my head. sorry for clogging up your thread
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 03:35:21 UTC No. 205904
>>205131
Not very interesting in terms of technique from what I've learned.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 03:38:51 UTC No. 205905
>>205853
>>205856
The thread probably needs bumps however it can get them. Yeah, HEMA's a nerdy hobby, but you know on the inside that you're learning real shit. And if you're sparring there's a real competition element that washes away most of the speculation about it once seen. I don't think anyone could watch a sparring match with actual steel and feel like it's a soft sport.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:42:41 UTC No. 205948
>>205905
Yeah the sparring is what weeds out the star wars jedi lightsaber nerds from the group.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 19:27:54 UTC No. 206009
>>205905
>>205948
these comments resonate with me. i cant wait to actually get to the point where i get to be somewhat competent and have a real back and forth with someone. probably no going back after that point
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 23:02:51 UTC No. 206025
>>205353
>invited me to this larping group
Which game?
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 23:13:47 UTC No. 206028
>>205853
>>205856
If you get strong and healthy and practice your social skills women will perceive your nerd hobbies become charmingly eccentric quirks. If you're a greasy neckbeard with shit posture who can't carry a conversation it doesn't matter whether your hobbies are nerd hobbies or normie hobbies.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 23:15:01 UTC No. 206029
>>205904
well, it's a weapon not a dress, anon.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 23:15:14 UTC No. 206030
>>206028
>If you get strong and healthy and practice your social skills women will perceive your nerd hobbies become charmingly eccentric quirks.
*If you get strong and healthy and practice your social skills women will perceive your nerd hobbies as charmingly eccentric quirks.
Changed my phrasing halfway through and fucked it up.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 23:23:06 UTC No. 206031
>>206029
I just mean it doesn't seem like there's as many valid techniques for it as a sword because it's bigger and heavier.
Anonymous at Mon, 5 Aug 2024 23:38:52 UTC No. 206564
So it shouldn't take long to learn the techniques and take them to sparring. Hema may be a sport, but doesn't stop people from learning new things. That's like saying Animal Farm isn't worth reading because it's short.
Anonymous at Mon, 5 Aug 2024 23:39:52 UTC No. 206565
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 15:02:24 UTC No. 206646
>>195383
does this shit still exist? I thought corona killed knight larping off?
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 21:20:15 UTC No. 206742
>>206646
Both. Numbers took a big hit but it's still around.
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 23:34:52 UTC No. 206763
>>206646
From what I've been told, people stayed inside and read their treatises which brought more historical accuracy back to the sport. I started after covid so that's what some of my teachers and buddies have said. Also solo drilling was huge so now more people have lacked for handwork or grappling training.
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 13:42:09 UTC No. 206820
I'm looking to by my second feder and I've been keeping my eyes on SIGI Gothic or King in shorty configuration. Anyone had experience with them?
My club specializes in fiore so I've mostly been using techniques from his treaties with a few meisterhau mixed in here and there. I find my distance management to be rather dogshit so to compensate my subpar largo, I often rush in to stretto/grappling to score points. However in close range I discovered the standard size of Regenyei feder (my first and current feder) to be rather bulky to maneuver around, especially the blade length would make it get caught in my opponent's blade/crossguard while trying to slide in between for some sneaky thrust/halfsword
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 23:38:28 UTC No. 206923
>>206763
>people stayed inside and read their treatises
>Also solo drilling was huge
Only LARPers do this.
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 00:14:02 UTC No. 206927
>>206646
>>206763
What really happened is that people would still go out and spar, but they'd put face masks under their fencing mask. It made it super hard to breathe for no good reason solely to make it look like they were doing something for covid compliance.
Anonymous at Thu, 8 Aug 2024 00:47:50 UTC No. 206934
Where can one buy real hema swords? Not just flimsy wall decorations, but real quality made swords built to take a beating.
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Aug 2024 14:03:24 UTC No. 207149
>>206934
Purple heart armoury
Superior fencing
Swordshop
Swordgear
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 08:52:52 UTC No. 209341
What