Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:45:01 UTC No. 215867

>>215864
wrestlers fear the azumanga daioh no kata

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:58:10 UTC No. 215869

>>215867
SEOI NAGE

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:20:22 UTC No. 215873

>>215864
>Are you excited for the return of (single) leg grabs?
quick rundown?

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:30:10 UTC No. 215874

>>215873
Leg grabs are returning in 2025 in japan open

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:56:43 UTC No. 215913

>>215874
this some kind of trial run? are the IJF going to watch the tourny and be like "no no no, this looks too much like wrestling" and ban leg grabs again?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:50:09 UTC No. 215927

>>215864
Is breaking your finger as common as people joke about?
>T. Wrestler look for something to do

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:12:34 UTC No. 215928

>>215927
no, tearing a nail or getting nail problems is prevalent though

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 13:40:20 UTC No. 215969

>>215927
hygiene standards are high in martial arts, like all of them. so no

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:20:34 UTC No. 216006

>>215913
I hope not. I'm 5'7 so I really need that shit.
I heard a rumor that is related to the somewhat diminished Russian (and surrounding nations) presence in Judo do to the war and whatnot. The japs and the frenchies no longer feel threatened by them so naturally the wrestling side of judo is up for grabs, "olympically" speaking

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:31:44 UTC No. 216007

>>215927
Breaking? No. Sprains are common however.
>t. Sprained finger and two toes in the past year

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:54:13 UTC No. 216015

>>216006
>The japs and the frenchies no longer feel threatened by them so naturally the wrestling side of judo is up for grabs

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 22:35:02 UTC No. 216085

>>215864
Anyone here know anything about the judo scene in Los Angeles? Which schools are both competent and injury-averse? I'm trying to talk my friend into training so he'll be more fun to throw around on holidays but he's getting old and has some injuries from other physical activities.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 23:17:59 UTC No. 216087

>>216085
In my experience pain comes from wanting to win
Only retards push an old man ton his limit
If your friend prioritizes landing safely he's safe
Also avoid ukeing for tai otoshi
But always be uke

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:57:38 UTC No. 216115

>>216087
>In my experience pain comes from wanting to win
>Only retards push an old man ton his limit
A novice has very few tools to assess that and sometimes old men need to be told to not push themselves to their old limits anymore.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:29:23 UTC No. 216134

>>216115
>A novice has very few tools to assess that
my instructors push grips and breakfalls hard and it works for me
i have other hobbies as well so i prioritize falling safely to the detriment to my ability to grapple effectively

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:33:53 UTC No. 216135

>>216087
pain comes from the dumbass that trains 5x a week but still has shit randori and wins through pure strength and boderline tackling and stiff arming you

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:35:35 UTC No. 216136

>>216085
if it's a good school the injury rate should be low and horror stories should be almost non existent. ALMOST

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:49:21 UTC No. 216150

>>216085
I heard good things about legion

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:51:35 UTC No. 216151

>>216136
It's interesting when you think of horror stories there's almost always an obese person on one side of it

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:51:23 UTC No. 216189

>>216135
Right I mean any competitive game right now there's plenty of 1000x games per season played and hardstuck in the same division
I still blame the cobra kai win at all costs mentality
I for one get bigger whiplash the harder I try when I invariably get osoto'd
>>216151
On the other hand the obese guy at my gym often fucks himself up, all I have to do is survive and 3 minutes later he looks like he was waterboarded while wrestling with a python in a hotbox in peak summer

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:52:04 UTC No. 216285

Sitting at seiza should be a fucking submission holy shit. I have a promotion next week and it's the thing I train the most, I cannot literally manage 2 minutes sitting like that. And I'm not obese.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:47:49 UTC No. 216310

>>216285
It's a fake western thing
Nips sit on pillows if they're going to be down for an extended period of time and elderly people aren't expected to do it at all

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 23:36:22 UTC No. 216321

>>216310
god i wish my face was that pillow

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 17:46:45 UTC No. 216341

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 18:41:11 UTC No. 216343

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 04:59:21 UTC No. 216374

>YOU WILL-UH DO 1000 PUSHUPS
>AND YOU WILL-UH LIKE-U IT

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:03:54 UTC No. 216375

>>216374
I won't do the push ups
I won't do the jumping jacks
I won't run in circles
I WILL show up to class 15 minutes late if you try to make me

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:04:42 UTC No. 216376

>>216374
imagine a match between kimura and riner

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:10:50 UTC No. 216377

>>216375
YOU WILL-UH BUNNY HOP-U 1 KILOMETERS
YOU WILL-UH PRACTICE-U UCHI MATA ON TREE

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:14:39 UTC No. 216378

>>216375
YOU ARE DIS-A-HONORABLE

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:25:46 UTC No. 216379

>>216375
if that's all they're making you do you should be greatful
any traditional gym will make you do handstands, shuffles, cartwheels, front rolls before finishing off with uchi-komis
which is the most essential part of the warm up to get you actually warm for doing judo

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:55:07 UTC No. 216380

>>216379
Why do you think I don't go to judo? I don't need some old fat guy telling me to do gymnastics up and down the mat

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:59:43 UTC No. 216391

>>216375
>I WILL get injured and then complain how dangerous judo is

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 10:04:15 UTC No. 216392

>>216380
If you can't do that part with ease you shouldn't be practicing a martial art
You're like a toddler who wants to ride a motorbike before they can crawl lmao

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 16:09:23 UTC No. 216413

>>216375
>petulant manchild complains about having to do what teacher says
I’m sorry, what do you train again? Surely it’s not “nothing”, right????

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 16:44:30 UTC No. 216416

>>216391
I've seen more people get taken out from doing somersaults and neck bridges than in actual judo accidents, and the judo accidents that do occur are from uncontrolled crashing body weight which is going to blow your shit out no matter how warmed up you are

Hell I've seen at least 2 occasions where someone goes down because their foot got caught between the seam of the mats during the laps 30 seconds into class

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 16:46:41 UTC No. 216417

>>216392
You dont even need to be able to do it either. Most of what they want out of you is rolling and ukemi.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 16:53:09 UTC No. 216419

>>216416
on regular forward jogging or reverse ball-of-the-foot-slide jogging?

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 18:38:24 UTC No. 216423

>>216419
Regular ass running

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 18:44:55 UTC No. 216424

>>216423
...i dont even know what to say to that

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 04:58:53 UTC No. 216459

>>216310
I thought pain was the point, along the lines of "by sitting this way I make my legs numb so you know I won't attack you."

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 05:30:44 UTC No. 216461

>>216459
It's just considered a polite way to sit down, and also you're only sitting like that either in a tatami room or on a pillow so of course it hurts if you're doing it on a western style floor

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:28:13 UTC No. 216488

>>216459
if you do research you'll find a lot of weird unspoken rules of sittinv
>you can sit anyway you want just dont have your feet facing the sensei

as an example

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:51:57 UTC No. 216490

>>216310
>fake western thing
I had a Korean instructor who was born under the Japanese occupation and we sat seiza or cross-legged in his class, with the implicit preference seeming to be seiza and the latter seeming to be a concession to Western preferences.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 17:26:34 UTC No. 216545

>>216416
there's nothing like forgetting to stretch before weekend class and going sore from all the tension of being thrown at mach 10

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 04:45:46 UTC No. 216636

>forced to do groundwork with a girl half my size
>get to her back, pelvis on her ass
>trying to get lapel grip and get a clock choke but cant get the fucking grip
>she starts to push her ass into my dick and says really loud "YOU LIKE THAT?" before laughing
>dismount in fear of being ousted as a perv
>mfw
I wish we could ban women

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:12:56 UTC No. 216637

>>216636
>anon FORCED to touch a woman
>immediately goes for the ass
>tries to choke cock
>surrenders because women are icky
wrestling might be more your speed.

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:34:38 UTC No. 216639

>>216636
>anon physically recoils from a woman’s touch
Lmfao

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:46:47 UTC No. 216642

>>216636
>can we ban wom- *ACK*

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:04:36 UTC No. 216643

>>216637
correction
>surrenders so his gym-mates don't think he likes girls

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:34:08 UTC No. 216645

>>216637
>>216639
>>216642
>>216643
women can rape men

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 12:03:50 UTC No. 216652

>>216636
>she starts to push her ass into my dick and says really loud "YOU LIKE THAT?"
I'VE FOUGHT *OOF* MUDCRABS MORE FEARSOME *AAGH* THAN YOU

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 17:34:20 UTC No. 216657

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKfM5iOqoKw&t=16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM_mg9nvcdY

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 18:54:06 UTC No. 216661

>>216642
how could sakuraba lose like this how will wrestlers ever recover :((

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 18:56:34 UTC No. 216662

>>216661
there are no losers in that webm

Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 23:29:36 UTC No. 216820

>>216657
Very interesting interpretations.
>>215864
Just in case you guys don't know, in the kodokan youtube channel there are actual instructionals made by world class judokas. I didn't notice because the titles were all in japanese, I thought they were interviews or something.

Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 00:51:21 UTC No. 216828

>>216820
real niggas watch Mercuryu Judo

Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:04:16 UTC No. 216862

>judo
>just show up to class consistently and participate and you'll eventually learn throws and their names

>bjj
>show up to class and pay $150 for an instructional about footsweeps even though you should have learned it in class

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 09:38:19 UTC No. 216915

>>216862
let's see judo's ne-waza

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 11:59:58 UTC No. 216918

I got promoted yesterday :^). Only an orange belt, it does make me feel awkward to be relatively old (22) and have what's usually a kid's belt, but what the hell.

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:37:33 UTC No. 216919

>>216918
>what's usually a kid's belt, but what the hell.

junior ranking orange belt would be white-orange

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:39:00 UTC No. 216920

>>216919
or is it yellow orange?
I know some schools the junior ranks deviate after green.
Instead of brown they go purple.
and i know some of them dont do the split color rankings.

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:05:03 UTC No. 216930

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:25:36 UTC No. 216933

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 22:28:13 UTC No. 216938

>>216919
I mean having such a low rank. It isn't about the color specifically.

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 23:03:24 UTC No. 216942

>>216938
well enjoy the color change while it lasts
you're gonna be a brown belt for a very long time once you hit it

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 00:12:41 UTC No. 216945

>>216942
Thanks. And yeah, my chances of being a black belt are slim for the next decade since I don't want to compete, and if I do it's unlikely that I'll get very far since I can't dedicate myself fully to judo.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 06:02:37 UTC No. 216955

>>216933
sumi gaeshi my beloved

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:51:05 UTC No. 217054

>>215864
What's /judo/ favorite striking style?

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:55:21 UTC No. 217066

>>217054
for me, its judo.

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 20:07:09 UTC No. 217124

>gently sweeps your lead foot
Heh, nothin personnel

Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 23:06:29 UTC No. 217128

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 14:24:24 UTC No. 217175

>>217124
my honest reaction

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 13:33:00 UTC No. 217279

I'm not sure if I can post here but there's a fuck ton of instructionals available in rutracker.
I love these guys but I'm not paying 20/30 bucks for a video kek.
https://rutracker.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=1591

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 15:55:29 UTC No. 217288

>>217279
You can't, I'm contacting my attorney right this very minute.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 16:17:55 UTC No. 217291

>>217279
>$20/$30 per video
a new belt costs that much and you learn that shit in class

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 16:44:24 UTC No. 217293

>>217291
I'm personally anti-instructional because I don't see the value in them for the time spent let alone if people actually pay for them on top of that

if there's any instructional I'm interested in it's likely just a specific section which I'll watch one time at 2x speed and catch the gist of it "oh that's pretty cool" and that's it. People trying to actually learn large amounts of material from them are in a rough spot

these are the only belts I wear now, best in the business if you ask me
https://www.kataaro.com/

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 18:26:57 UTC No. 217295

>>217288
DAMN IT you even got dubs
>>217291
Partially, but with these instructionals you learn from a world class judoka, combined with set ups, training/uchikomi methods, etc.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 21:17:59 UTC No. 217309

>>217124
>RAPIDLY GOES IN FOR A HIP GRAB AND USHIRO-GOSHIS YOU

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 21:54:45 UTC No. 217314

I'm a blue belt shitter and I found a place that runs a weekly 1h wrestling class close to my home.
Do you think it's worth it to improve my self-defense? I'm short so single legs sounds good to me.
Keep in mind my judo club only trains 3x a week (1 of them is conditioning only) and there is no way to increase this.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:34:19 UTC No. 217326

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:44:29 UTC No. 217327

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:46:09 UTC No. 217328

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:46:31 UTC No. 217395

my training partners keep trying to break my legs with shitty tani otoshis and kosoto gakes/leg reaps
what's the most graceful way i can tell them that i think their technique may be wrong or dangerous?

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 18:30:15 UTC No. 217407

>>217395
Ua nage

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 19:12:20 UTC No. 217410

>>217395
gaeshi(counter) him.
>shitty reap
>reap him with the same throw back
>osoto gaeshi
>profit

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 19:31:51 UTC No. 217411

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 19:41:25 UTC No. 217413

>>217395
>Hey man/bitch please don't do that you can injure my legs
Okay sorry
You carry on and if he does it again:
>Listen I can't do randori if you're trying to harm me permanently, I have a life outside of this and I need my knees
That's it.

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 19:49:25 UTC No. 217414

>>217395
ask him to help you practice a new technique (its kani basami and you are going to break his calf on purpose without warning)

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 01:20:58 UTC No. 217420

>>215864
After training for more than a year I've had my first bad class, and fuck it, I'm going to bitch about it here
>brown belt retard appears
>perhaps not even a brown in judo, but a brown at japanese jiu jitsu, but he had the bright idea of practicing with us today (there are usually parallel classes)
>okay, fine I usually think the more the merrier because we're a niche sport in my shithole
>this fag starts speaking weeaboo japanese, answering "hai" to our sensei
>we're the national judo training dojo in our country, and while we keep a lot of traditions, we don't go full retard like this guy
>starts yelling to bow at the beginning, we usually bow but never with a mongoloid yelling
>injures a kid while doing uchikomis, keep in mind that this kid usually trains with us (adult kyus) and never had a problem because he's tough and flexible.
>somehow slams into his hand, I go check on the kid and thankfully nothing too bad, has to stop training for the day
>my turn to do newaza randori with him, taps out after I immobilize him
>we reset, he get the better of me, retard tries to wrist lock me
>gayest shit ever, barely felt it, ripped my hand out due to sweat and strength
>gets my back
>goes for the hadake jime and fails
>he taps my back
>I ask him what's wrong
>says he had my back already, and he was going to break my jaw, so he stopped it
>say okay, stretch his hand and leave mad as fuck
>retard tells me I'm not allowed to leave the tatami and tells me to fix my judogi
>At this moment I start pondering if he's actually serious, and he is
>class over before I can reply

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:03:50 UTC No. 217433

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:37:34 UTC No. 217437

>>217420
this anon again,

i forgot to mention the brown belt is a 9-year-old

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:12:22 UTC No. 217555

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 14:39:19 UTC No. 217633

>>217433
I'm a noob but doesn't this give more damage to him than the other guy? Seems like he slammed his head on the mat.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 23:41:38 UTC No. 217665

How do I stop thinking about Judo when having sex?

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 01:12:58 UTC No. 217671

Judo 2025 rule updates are out. Some notable changes:

>yuko is back but only for newaza
>bear hugs are legal as long as you don't fully clasp your hands together
>"Positive activity in ne-waza will be taken in consideration" whatever that means
>gripping inside the sleeves is legal, gripping inside the trousers is legal in newaza
>use of head to throw and defend is allowed (outside of cadets)
>korean seoi is legal again (outside of cadets)
>leg grabs are NOT back (but you can grip the belt and skirt from below as long as you don't stall)

https://www.ijf.org/news/show/judo-presents-the-new-rules

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 01:27:11 UTC No. 217672

>>217671
if they want to choose to be left behind by not allowing leg grabs then so be it
they want to expand judo then it needs to allow everything bjj does, that's the direct competition theyre fighting against and losing

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 05:48:07 UTC No. 217680

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 05:48:42 UTC No. 217681

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 05:48:58 UTC No. 217682

>>217671
>leg grabs are NOT back (but you can grip the belt and skirt from below as long as you don't stall)
I hate Judo.

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 06:05:32 UTC No. 217683

>>217682
You'll notice the person demonstrating is a morbidly obese European, and the panel behind him is half women and nobody in the room is even Asian

This isn't judo

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 12:31:45 UTC No. 217698

>>217671
everybody was hyped for leg grabs making a comeback and now they pull this shit

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 15:53:20 UTC No. 217705

>>217671
>bear hugs are legal as long as you don't fully clasp your hands together
>leg grabs are NOT back
>oh but you can grab them by the leg as long as you don't stall >:)
Do the heads of IJF just have a serious blue-balling fetish or something? Like what the fuck? They just seem so fucking smug and enjoy ruining everyone's expectations.

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:26:48 UTC No. 217706

>>217671
Well at least they're going to give newaza some more consideration but the rest are a fucking tease

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:10:23 UTC No. 217707

>>217671
>here are the new rules

>same exact rules as before

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 18:19:16 UTC No. 217718

>>217671

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:34:30 UTC No. 217726

>>217671
>wait for every boomer that knows leg grabs to die
>reintroduces leg grabs
>every black belt that doesnt know leg grabs has go flock to the few millenials and zoomer dojo that know leg grabs

would be hilarious if this is a long form plan to just net a ton of money to specific judoka

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:53:38 UTC No. 217727

>>217726
it's because americans are the main characters and allowing leg grabs would overnight make our judo team the worst to the best because we have a distinct edge from scholastic wrestling none of the irrelevant countries have exposure to
it's another yoroupian scheme originating from their inferiority complex

Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 23:11:53 UTC No. 217743

>>217671
>bear hugs are legal as long as you don't fully clasp your hands together
holy cope

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 02:19:19 UTC No. 217752

>>217727
>we have a distinct edge from scholastic wrestling none of the irrelevant countries have exposure to
Practically all of the strong judo countries (other than France I guess) have strong wrestlers as well.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:26:00 UTC No. 217776

>>217743
that gif is retarded.
you cant beat that arm in a competitive situation

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 17:51:59 UTC No. 217786

>>217671
https://youtu.be/aSE7p_rhfyc?si=J4xLMn30zsuUIbu_

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:45:15 UTC No. 217793

https://youtu.be/_M9GTgz41lQ?si=QK6VrqhK2K-7Sx20

This entire thread on suicide watch

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:34:07 UTC No. 217813

Would shotokan be a good striking art to complement judo?

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:46:02 UTC No. 217814

>>217813
kyoukushin or bust dude

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 03:36:46 UTC No. 217819

>>217814
kyokushin is the best because one time 60 years ago 3 guys won some but not all of the fights against random thai boxers and that proves it

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 04:22:10 UTC No. 217823

>>217819
>this one time at rhe forbidden kumite of 380bc

sold
im sold where do i sign?

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 06:24:47 UTC No. 217826

>>217823
just get a friend and practice at home by following these instructions :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQBBSLtReNk

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 06:29:47 UTC No. 217827

>>217793
sometimes i do wonder how the black belts at our club got so good when all they teach is warm ups, gymnastics and similarly kata-esque technique
it fucking sucks being taught watered-down judo

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 07:34:38 UTC No. 217828

>>217827
It's interesting, in the west you find these old white guys with the strict honorabu traditional methods
And when I went to Japan it was chill as fuck, the nips just hung around and played it wasn't all stuffy and strict or anything

It's just more fetishizing of the far east and this fictional culture westerners think they have

Turns out sports are meant to be a fun hobby, imagine that

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:48:25 UTC No. 217831

>>217814
The only kyokushin place I can attend is a weekly 3h long saturday class because it's a 1h travel.
Shotokan I would be able to train 2x 2h classes a week.
Or I can just train muay thai but I wanted something without boxing gloves and there are no mma classes here.

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:42:57 UTC No. 217847

>>217831
>without boxing gloves
If this is for self defense proper muay thai mogs the fuck out of shotokan, at least for an adult hobby practitioner

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:46:52 UTC No. 217848

>>217847
Yes. It's for self defense and buying a gun/knife is not an option in my country.
Maybe I should just train muay thai like you said bacause it has classes everyday. Elbows and knees are nice to have.

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 22:45:34 UTC No. 217853

>>217813
>>217848
From a historical perspective, yes. Jigoro Kano and Gichin Funakoshi were close friends. From a practical standpoint, you're more likely to find a good muay thai school than shotokan school.

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:59:37 UTC No. 217862

>>217776
skill issue

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 04:40:53 UTC No. 217872

>>217831
Basically every Karate guy that can actually fight does "kickboxing" at this point. Anyone going out of their way to do some niche sport like kyokushin or lethwei is probably there because they can't hack it in the big pool. Unless you just really like the sport (like American judoka), do the most popular full contact one.

>>217847
I would honestly TKD over Shotokan at this point. Even if the rules are weird in the grand scheme of kickboxing, at least the focus on Olympic competition means you're actually practicing landing body and head kicks against a moving target. Shotokan ime is much more about the kata and athletic demonstration aspects than punching and kicking an uncooperative opponent.

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 22:28:19 UTC No. 218271

>>216379
>>216380
When I think judo I think of jigoro kano
It's a hobby for me and I have a stand up job with delicate finger tasks
Anyone who insists on being a pseudo carnie just to do what amounts to manhandling is retarded
Also if good self defense is done on the street anything I need to warm up for is retarded because i won't have time to do all that stupid shit when a rapist wants my asshole

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 23:31:59 UTC No. 218277

>>216933
This is bullshit because if single legs were allowed he would have been taken down

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:22:09 UTC No. 218300

>>218277
Single legs are allowed in sambo and stuff like that still happens. Sumi gaeshi can be a single leg counter on its own.

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:28:59 UTC No. 218303

>>218277
Single legs are allowed in sambo and stuff like that still happens. Sumi gaeshi can be a single leg counter on its own.

And if you want to act like it's something that would only happen because of the jacket and wouldn't happen no-gi, it works in wrestling too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZIJ7FPiGgQ

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:30:07 UTC No. 218304

>>218277
Single legs are allowed in sambo and stuff like that still happens. Sumi gaeshi can be a single leg counter on its own.

And if you want to act like it's something that would only happen because of the jacket and wouldn't work no-gi, it works in wrestling too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZIJ7FPiGgQ

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 00:49:32 UTC No. 218382

>>218304
Holy shit, first time I see a sumi gaeshi executed like that, fuckin tuff

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 06:35:40 UTC No. 218397

>>217793
I wholeheartedly agree with all this. This is something that's bothered me since I started judo, and it's become a sort of elephant in the room. The gap between a textbook throw and its practical, randori version has become too big in some cases. There's too much emphasis on drilling the "right way" not the effective way, which would make Jigoro roll in his grave. Even as you're taught the basic textbook movement, you're basically left on your own to figure out how to execute that throw in an actual fight. Uchi mata is a big case because the standard textbook version is so comically wrong and ineffective. Consequentally the "real" Uchi mata took me years to figure out, as I'm sure its taken others, and that's a sign something's not right in the teaching methods. I haven't trained for months now but last time I did, I was learning more from watching pros and copying them on the mat than from my own teachers. I think overall the way judo is taught needs a reform or else it's going to rot and decay. It needs to self-criticize and adapt instead of adhering to the dogma of textbook throws.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 11:55:08 UTC No. 218403

I have man tits and a weak upper body..do you judokas do any gym sessions outside of your judo stuff to make yourself stronger? if so what? dont laugh at me i'll kill myself

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 20:53:45 UTC No. 218416

>>218403
I work out 8 days a week.
Sunday to Sunday

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 01:56:29 UTC No. 218429

>>218403
Yeah. My training outside judo is the only thing keeping me from being ragdolled like I was when I started. Just do basic bodybuilding exercises + cardio at the end. The biggest game changer for me was bench press and kegels for ne waza (even though you rarely bench press your oponent in the ground) and squats and abs machine for stand up fighting.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 02:00:58 UTC No. 218430

>>218397
It's how the Japs have been training for a long time. Rote learning. Even legends like Kimura were like
>do osotogari a million times against trees and shit
>spam it in matches until it works because your oponent's leg looks like it's been hit by a 2002 honda civic driven by a crackhead.
And this is hearsay but the frenchies have been training like this. Warm up and right into randori. They don't do nearly the amount of uchikomis like the japs.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 02:30:46 UTC No. 218433

>>218430
>It's how the Japs have been training for a long time. Rote learning.
That's a western myth kept alive solely through muh exotic orient fetish/racism. The Japanese today train much closer to the way you think the French train; warm up with uchikomis followed by hours of randori. It might've been true back in Kimura's time when the first westerners were starting to seriously get into judo, but they haven't trained that way in decades and you can easily debunk it with a quick browse on Youtube. Hell it was already debunked in the video from the first post of the reply chain.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 02:31:51 UTC No. 218434

>>218429
>basic bodybuilding exercises
Any recommendations on what program you follow? I'm thinking of just doing something that involves squats, deads, military press, bench press and pull ups, the basic stuff for a good foundation.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 02:42:05 UTC No. 218437

>>218429
>kegels

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 03:31:32 UTC No. 218441

>>218433
My Japanese sensei learned by a million uchikomis. And he's 25. They also did hours of randori, but I willing to bet the frenchies do a lot more. To settle this we would need more than a video or anecdotes.
But hey I'm not Japanese nor have I trained over there. We would have to actually ask one how are they training right now.
>>218434
Bench press, wrist curls (very important as well), bicep curls, barbell squats, push press, hip thrust (>>218437 I meant something like this you fag, but you get the gist anyhow) and push press with dumbells. That's what *I* do and perhaps not the best for judo, but generally as long as you do the basic stuff you will be fine. The point is to not bother doing the weird shit olympians do in instagram.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 05:58:28 UTC No. 218462

>>218441
Seems like a lot of upper body work in general, which makes sense since we're throwing people around...I'll consider that for sure.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 16:47:00 UTC No. 218481

>>218403
Yeah I've been lifting to get stronger for judo. I am doing Greyskull LP. It's a basic routine, nothing complicated. What actually cost me was all the bulking and eating. I was a skinny kid most of my life and not used to eating 3k cal a day with lots of protein. Took me some time and effort to adapt (and money). But it pays off.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 04:17:11 UTC No. 218565

>Greyskull LP
bleh

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 04:41:31 UTC No. 218566

>>218304
another, this time in judo

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 04:08:31 UTC No. 218647

>>218565
Nothing wrong with GSLP

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 05:15:00 UTC No. 218653

>>218647
ehhhh...
>3 sets of heavy squats followed up with 3 more sets of hamstring curls and split squats
>deadlift and rdl day after hamstring curls and low bar squatting
>le deadbugs
>leaving 5 whole reps in the tank

you'd be better of with 7-day full body U/L split, one upper exercise one lower exercise. A few warmup sets followed with a maximum set and maybe, JUST MAYBE some rest-pause sets after.

Judoka aren't powerlifters, GS and SL are powerlifting routines with the vocabulary to show for it. Trust me, you're not gonna be feeling good trying to do osoto drills or uchi mata drills after deadlifting and rdling on the same day with 6 total sets. Given that you actually give intent into 4 separate hard exercises in a one hour frame.

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:28:33 UTC No. 218685

>>218653
I should've mentioned that I'm doing GSLP phraks variant, and not lifting on the same days as judo. pic related.

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:53:45 UTC No. 218691

>>217793
chadi said this is bullshit and shintaro agrees
which jutuber am I supposed to belieeeeve!!!

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:15:34 UTC No. 218762

happy new year, /judo/. may all your ippons come true. any judo goals for 2025?

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:05:53 UTC No. 218767

>>218762
Get a girlfriend, hopefully.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 06:54:13 UTC No. 218771

>>218397
Then lets do it bjj style.
You and your partner have 5 minutes to drill uchi mata after i show it to you once. If you ask me to show you again you're gay and if you cant do it in live randori the first you arent getting anywhere in judo.

have fun :) also half the class is on """theraputic""" dosages of trt and hgh and doesnt know how to hold back.

>spreading judo goes out the window
>shit becomes a giant filter
>judo becomes more obscure than it already is in comparison to a bjj school at every major shopping center/strip mall
>Kano rolls in his grave anyway

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 06:56:55 UTC No. 218772

>>218771
People need to learn to do the throw somehow is the point im trying to make. And if spreading the philosphy and maxim of judo is one of the major goals making it bjj style where everything is go big or go home is just gonna hurt it. BJJ is already getting tons of hate in recent months because people are just realizing how insanely salty it is

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 07:50:08 UTC No. 218773

>>218772
because jiujitsu is for pretty girls

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 07:52:33 UTC No. 218774

>>218773
kek

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 10:02:23 UTC No. 218776

>>218767
wrong. first you get the black belt, then you get the bitches

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:40:57 UTC No. 218818

I have tried both judo and wrestling
With wrestling I was taking people down in sparring within a few lessons

With judo I felt like I didn't know what the fuck was going on and it was stupid

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:06:01 UTC No. 218821

>>218818
Skill issue

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:17:00 UTC No. 218836

>>218821
Yeah judo has a skill issue

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:37:26 UTC No. 218838

>>218818
Play chess and then try judo again

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:49:09 UTC No. 218853

>>218818
>can take down wrestling chuds
>can't take down judo chads
rekt

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 10:24:33 UTC No. 218857

Literally can’t win a fucking match
Second time going to the examination
I can’t get a fucking green belt

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:23:20 UTC No. 218859

>>218853
No beginner can take any beginner down. At most it's sloppy falling over after 1 minute "tandoori"

If I can grab the legs and body lock I can take down any judoka dweeb with ease

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:47:18 UTC No. 218863

>>218859
>If I can grab the legs and body lock I can take down any judoka dweeb with ease
umm akshually that's illegal

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 18:44:37 UTC No. 218878

>>218818
I started wrestling as a young child and persisted though my time in school. I later got into judo under a high-quality instructor and loved it. Unironic skill issue, on your part and possibly on your instructor's.
>sparring within a few lessons
Scholastic/folkstyle wrestling does not allow high-altitude throws and is designed to avoid injuring student athletes. You can put a new student into wrestling sparring and the risk of serious injury is very low as long as the weights are similar and nobody is too out of shape. In contrast, falling wrong in judo sparring can easily injure you very badly. Some judo schools will allow new students to spar in ne-waza (ground work) before nage-waza (throwing techniques) and some will impose the restriction on ne-waza that there are to be no chokes or joint locks with new students, only pins, making it much more similar to sparring in scholastic wrestling.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:09:35 UTC No. 218880

>>218863
Yes that's why judo is massively unnapealing to people now

>Let's take away the easiest and most high percentage stuff and make people learn low percentage highly situational risky moves!

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Jan 2025 15:17:04 UTC No. 218941

>>218880
>>218859
>if I can't touch people's legs I am unable to take anyone down
skill issue

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Jan 2025 15:29:52 UTC No. 218943

>>218941
Nothing happens in Greco matches for minutes at a time because of that rule so yeah. Point proven

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Jan 2025 10:51:42 UTC No. 219002

>>218653
>GS and SL are powerlifting routines
KEK

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Jan 2025 01:27:30 UTC No. 219038

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Jan 2025 01:44:54 UTC No. 219039

>>219038
I know the seoi nage with the guy grinding his machete on the ground is fake, but I have never seen this, is this one actually real?

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 15:38:49 UTC No. 219166

>>218653
>6 total sets

latic acid is a thing, that's even back ny scientific study. Wanna know how to get rid of it? Right after you finish leg day go ride a stationary bike for 30 minutes.
Also if all you can do is 6 sets you're a pussy.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 16:06:38 UTC No. 219167

>>219166
Depends on if you are actually trying on those 6 sets or are just DYEL and half-assing them (like GS has you do). Trust me, you've probably never even reached mechanical failure on an exercise before. Let alone 6 times on two very similar leg exercises. And on top of that going to Judo for 2 hours.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 17:30:52 UTC No. 219176

>>219167
This shit reeks of larp

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 19:52:30 UTC No. 219192

>>219176
You reek of shit.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:03:46 UTC No. 219195

>>219192
nope, i have execellent hygenic practice as required by martial arts. The average person is disgusting to me because they're ok with literally breathing in their own fecal matter particles.
fart in their car and clothes and just letting it sit and not using a de-orderizer or disinfectant. Absolutely abhorrent. Then there's that whole subset of retards that dont wash their hands after they pee

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:09:52 UTC No. 219196

brush your teeth before class you sick fucks

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:16:24 UTC No. 219198

>>219195
Think that's bad? There are entire countries where people don't use water to wipe their ass.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:19:02 UTC No. 219199

>>219198
do they at least wash their hands properly?
>between the nails, on the palm, between their fingers, the back of the palm, etc?

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:30:08 UTC No. 219201

>>219199
in the UK there was an indian restaurant and the inspectors found microscopic fecal matter wall to wall all over the kitchen and the judge decided there would be no action against them because the chef argued that wiping his ass with his hand is part of his culture and the judge agreed it would be racist to stop him from doing it

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 20:32:54 UTC No. 219202

>>219201
That's fucking disgusting dude.
People need to wash their fucking hands.
This shit is how pandemics start.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 21:00:44 UTC No. 219204

>>219195
>He uses disinfectant after he farts in his car

Max soi

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 21:05:31 UTC No. 219205

>>219204
>he shows up to class smelling like shit

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 21:33:24 UTC No. 219209

>>219205
You know what bugs the shit out of me, people who show up to class already in their Gi. Knowing that they sat in their car (or god forbid public transport) in that uniform, sitting in other people's filth.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 21:51:53 UTC No. 219212

>>219201
Bongistan is beyond fucked.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 07:15:05 UTC No. 219251

>>219205
>He follows his farts with a can of deodorant

Peak oversocialised female brain soi

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 11:31:00 UTC No. 219260

How much does your classes cost? \

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:50:12 UTC No. 219264

>>219038
reminds me of a similar throw between one of the rioters and an african(?) police

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 16:19:09 UTC No. 219282

>>219260
1

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 16:24:52 UTC No. 219283

>>219260
1 Ugandan dollar

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 16:26:36 UTC No. 219284

>>219251
you're a larper that doesnt do martial arts.
No one wants to randori with the guy that smells like shit.
You cant smell it but other people can

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 16:27:49 UTC No. 219285

>>219284
it's like those retards that bathe in their own piss from bottles
they think it increase pheromones

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 16:31:31 UTC No. 219286

>>219195
>fart
>take off all your clothes and disinfect them
>clean out your entire car and disinfect that too

What if you farted twice? This is so obviously unrealistic there is no way you actually do that shit. At most you hose yourself down with cancerous aerosol chemicals and call it "disinfected". Maybe you huff glade plug ins because you think that's clean lmao.

Dude you are out of your fucking mind. Fucking bubble boy delusions.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 16:55:48 UTC No. 219287

>>219286
keep telling yourself that fart fetishist

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 18:49:42 UTC No. 219299

>>219260
they're FREE

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:36:05 UTC No. 219306

chadi bros, I think it's over for us

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:38:48 UTC No. 219308

>>219306
why? what happened?

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:45:17 UTC No. 219311

>>219308
he went off about the videos saying uchikomi teaches you the moves wrong calling it bullshit, even though he's a literal who thats calling an olympians opinion wrong
and now everyone has turned on him for getting uppity

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:48:19 UTC No. 219312

>>219311
that uchikomi video has been a shitstorm of fuck. everyone in my club is talking about it

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:49:35 UTC No. 219313

>>219312
thing is everyone is talking about it but nobody has a good counter argument to it aside from saying that's bullshit
why is it bullshit?
because I don't like the opinion!

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:53:53 UTC No. 219314

>>219313
My sensei said something along the lines of: "Uchi komi is meant to teach you how to enter and have Uki be a PERFECT tool to practice kuzushi. Uchi komi isn't meant to simulate the technique we use during shiai or randori but the ideal technique that uses as little strength as possible." Which kind of made sense? I don't know.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:55:15 UTC No. 219315

why the FUCK does NOBODY like Osoto Otoshi?

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:59:53 UTC No. 219317

>>219314
>Uchi komi isn't meant to simulate the technique we use during shiai or randori but the ideal technique that uses as little strength as possible
the technique that uses as little strength as possible is the one that works though

lets say a person is a pro, their job is to throw people, if they don't do that they don't eat
certainly their method is the most efficient, they aren't going to land on doing a technique in a way that makes it harder for them to win
form follows function

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:00:27 UTC No. 219318

>>219311
absolutely deserved.
>Drilling is dumb and doesnt work
even though that's verbatim how they learned it

>>219314
yes that's correctly. Your sensei just explained what a drill is to you.

>>219315
situational throw

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:06:57 UTC No. 219320

>>219318
>even though that's verbatim how they learned it
the argument is they didn't learn it that way
they learned the uchikomi which is wrong and then in order to actually do the throw you have to figure it out yourself later on to make it workable

how many times have you heard "this is the way you do it on a test, but this is how you'll do it in randori"
so why even show the test way if it doesn't work

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:08:20 UTC No. 219321

>>219317
>maximum efficiency, minimal effort.

No one said learning judo is easy.
All these youtubers that are trying to be influencers and saying uchi komi doesnt work or we should get rid of randori(like what jimmy pedro is saying) should be ignored.
These are all essential elements to learning judo. They're one of the reasons why getting that sweet shiney shodan rank takss 5 years and not 10 like in bjj
like what this fucker in bjj is saying. (>>219036)

bjj isnt refined
there is no template cirriculum as their own major governing body is practically non existent.
Usa judo, usjf, usja and ijf as well as the kodokan all have their own cirriculum if you dont want to make your own and their own requirements. Because of all the refinement within the governing bodies and the sport itself it only takes 5 years to get your black belt.

People actually listen to the practicioners that care in Judo. It's not like bjj where people will only listen if you win.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:10:36 UTC No. 219322

>>219320
>how many times have you heard "this is the way you do it on a test, but this is how you'll do it in randori"

never because my instructor is a seasoned competitive veteran that's been doing it since leg grabs were a thing.
maybe you should go to a different school...?

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:11:37 UTC No. 219325

>>219322
he even starts his instructions with
>in competition

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:29:21 UTC No. 219368

>>219321
Unlike BJJ, there's actually a lot of sports science out there for judo - it's just in French, Russian, and Japanese.

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 03:29:01 UTC No. 219404

>>219368
as you can see from the bjj thread if you even attempt to talk about sports science you'll get labeled a schizo and shouted down for speaking against the infallible gracie methodology

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 03:37:02 UTC No. 219405

>>219404
the trans gracie metod

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:43:19 UTC No. 219424

i hate kata i hate kata i hate kata i hate kata

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:15:00 UTC No. 219431

tried out judo. pretty fun. reminds me a lot of dancing. not too sure if i do like it or it's because i had a good teacher showing me the basic stuff. only concerned about practicing because it takes me a while to understand and move my whole body at once. dont mind putting in the work, just need something like a doll or some shit that i can practice over and over again like a sperg.

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:22:11 UTC No. 219433

>>219284
T. Peak soi scared to randori with the big boys so only tries to prey on the small twinks

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:41:51 UTC No. 219434

>>219431
>reminds me a lot of dancing

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 14:17:30 UTC No. 219436

>>219433
i dont really care who i do randori with.
Im a big dude, it takes a lot of force to hurt me, hard to move me too

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:00:00 UTC No. 219438

>>219436
>im a big dude
holy larp

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:10:30 UTC No. 219440

>>219438
can we not derail a thread on a decent board?

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 20:20:28 UTC No. 219455

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c-2mA6ke7rk

It's going down!

He won't show though

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 20:33:32 UTC No. 219456

>>219455
what a faggot dude

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 20:52:55 UTC No. 219457

>>219456
i dont understand why he is doing this. What is the point in all of this?

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:27:25 UTC No. 219458

>>219457
Because we all agree that judo is in decline, Mostly that's due to the European sphere of influence

But this is just his way of trying to make it good again

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:30:22 UTC No. 219459

>>219458
Then why not just give funding to dojos that need it? so they can keep the lights on and run promotions for their club?
Doing all of this makes no sense and just causes unnecessary drama

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:42:42 UTC No. 219460

>>219459
It's martial arts and might makes right
All this talk and no action, just take it to the mat and let the people decide who they want to stand behind

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:57:53 UTC No. 219464

>>219460
>It's martial arts and might makes right

if that's the case i hope shintari goes full unhinged and breaks hapans arm or something because this kiddy shit is tiring

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Jan 2025 22:55:13 UTC No. 219475

>>219464
He can't if he wanted to, he's US national level which is the lowest piggu you can be
Even a smaller Olympic medalist is far above that level

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 15:50:37 UTC No. 219556

>>219460
So if Shintaro wins we just keep learning the wrong way? Or shit, idk. Maybe it is the right way.
This is so retarded anyways. This is what the Olympics has turned Judo into, a bunch of people thinking they are flawless and can't take any real criticism, and when they do they start sperging HARD. Even some kids are like this, it's seen in all levels.
>>219431
Yes it will teach you to dance too. Judo got me laid indirectly because while I'm an autist I danced with a girl in a party instead of getting drunk in a corner
>>218857
Fuck the belts. Learn 3 throws, use them in randori and have fun.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:06:18 UTC No. 219557

>>219475
This
Even in the video you can tell Shintaro is in full damage control mode.
Judo has flushed all moral codes down the toilet for some fucking medals. Kano was right about the olympics all along.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:34:04 UTC No. 219563

>>219556
>So if Shintaro wins we just keep learning the wrong way?

why do you want judo to be like bjj so badly?
if you wanna drill one throw for ten minutes and rank based off of getting it right the first time in full force no holding back sparring why not just do bjj

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:49:50 UTC No. 219568

>>219455
koreans aint shit
they couldnt even win their own war all the way
then their own governmwnr tried to enforce martial law and lost.
Top kek

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 19:00:51 UTC No. 219570

How would you use your judo to take down an armored knight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVLJ4NUQz6I
Feels to me like 4 guys could easily grapple a knight down and stab him through the visor.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 19:27:15 UTC No. 219572

>>219570
Polearm guy should have gone for a leg instead of the neck
taking him to the ground is priority one, you can't beat a knight standing

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 19:32:13 UTC No. 219573

>>219568
They have the best girls though
I've sexpatted my way through the far east and laid all manner of gooks, chinks, japs, and seamonkeys
They are the best

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 20:38:31 UTC No. 219591

>>219570
>How would you use your judo to take down an armored knight?
That's more or less what buhurt is.
>grapple a knight down and stab him through the visor
Go ask the HEMA guys about that, they'll have loads of material for you. >>>/xs/hema

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 21:15:22 UTC No. 219596

>>219556
>This is what competition has turned Judo into
ftfy

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Jan 2025 21:52:36 UTC No. 219600

>>219596
>>This is what the french has turned Judo into
Now you got it

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 00:30:04 UTC No. 219612

>>219600

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 00:30:17 UTC No. 219613

>>219563
I didn't even imply that. But you just happen to be the best example of how Shintaro and his minions are in full damage control mode, complete with irrelevant fallacies.
>>219596
No. Competitions are still a part of Judo. Randori is collaborative, competition fighting is not. It's yet another way to test what you have learned. That doesn't mean we have to introduce a bunch of faggot rules.

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 00:42:10 UTC No. 219616

>>219613
>But you just happen to be the best example of how Shintaro and his minions are in full damage control mode, complete with irrelevant fallacies.

touchè

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 03:23:24 UTC No. 219627

>>219612
I've seen a weirdly disproportionate amount of jews in judo. Is that a thing or just my regional experience?

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 03:28:03 UTC No. 219628

>>219627
it's in the name man

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 03:57:42 UTC No. 219631

>>219627
There is this Muslim dad that told the fat old boomer sensei that his son is not allowed to bow during class because it's against their religion

And fat old boomer sensei was based and said okay then he can't do judo

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 04:15:43 UTC No. 219633

>>219631
based

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 07:31:57 UTC No. 219645

>>219631
fundies iffy uh
kano got the stiffy uh

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 16:03:02 UTC No. 219668

I'm probably doing it wrong but this feels so easy, even easier than osoto gari. Like I can just heave to one side and heave back, forcing all my body weight down and about 7/10 times I'll get them to fall

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 16:04:22 UTC No. 219669

>>219668
forgot pic

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 16:55:46 UTC No. 219673

>>219668
Train with heavier and stronger people then. But shit if it works for you then it works for you.

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 16:59:50 UTC No. 219674

>>219673
i weigh like 240lbs im commonly used as an uke for technique purposes and demonstration

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:24:39 UTC No. 219749

>>217279
Could I, in theory, watch these videos and learn Judo decently? I just want to be able to perform a takedown if someone gets in my face and buy some time to run away. Some of the Judo takedowns I see on YouTube seem like they could send someone to the shadow realm.

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 14:19:13 UTC No. 219750

>>219749
Depending on your autism, athletic intuition, and training resources you might be able to build a skill set well beyond that of the layperson, but it would really be more efficient and yield better results to have an actual practice partner if not an instructor.

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 16:06:56 UTC No. 219753

>>217279
They're available on btdig too.

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:57:15 UTC No. 219770

>>219749
Most likely no. Maybe some boxing can do the trick if you don't want to train with other people or can't afford to.
If you want to learn judo from the ground I recommend going to the kodokan's youtube channel.

Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 23:38:47 UTC No. 219792

>>219749
no, there are a lot of ways to inflict kuzushi on someone and the same way isnt gonna work on everyone which is why weight classes exist in fighting.
If you wanna use judo for self defense take classes.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Jan 2025 01:40:53 UTC No. 219807

>>219750
>>219770
>>219792
thanks anons. I might start combat sports if I ever get tired of Pickleball.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Jan 2025 03:05:34 UTC No. 219808

The judo subreddit is ironically better than this general for technique info. There are some real autists there who actually have the rank and experience.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Jan 2025 03:26:31 UTC No. 219809

>>219808
This is just a non serious forum dude
everyone in this thread likely uses reddit as well
there is even a thread discussing reddit
>>210677

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Jan 2025 03:27:32 UTC No. 219810

>>219809
This place mostly exists to be unfiltered

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:08:41 UTC No. 219966

>>217793
The only thing this video has showed me is that either the majority of people here and on reddit are children that believe anything anyone with big wins like happan would say or that they're retarded
because the requirements for entering the olympics are to enter(not even win) one other compeitition as all you need it competitive experience

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:11:12 UTC No. 219967

>>219966
because the entire point of katas and uchi komis goes out peoples head as if they dont exist for a reason.
imagine only knowing 4 throws and being unable to complete your nage no kata in front of judges becuase a fucking korean told you to. imagine having ti learn a new throw at a white belt level as a black belt
because you never went through any kata. This entire video is silly

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:14:10 UTC No. 219969

>>219967
not only that but when you ask any of them why they agree with happan it's usually a very childish retort. Like you'd have to be a genuine child or mentally disabled to not realize that the form is going to change in randori. of course an uchi mata isnt going to be a kata uchi mata in randori. Who said otherwise? no one

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:17:05 UTC No. 219971

>>219969
the entire point of uchi komis and kata is to teach you the movement and kuzushi of the throw not how it's done in randori.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:18:12 UTC No. 219972

>>219971
and so that way when you do do it in randori you know how to do the movement. so if you escape an ogoshi you can do a left legged uchi mata, etc. because you know the core movement of uchi mata

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:55:20 UTC No. 219990

>>219969
>>219971
spending years practicing something that doesn't work in practice is aikido tier. it's a disgrace for judo knowing the whole point of it was jigoro discarding all the ineffective shit from traditional jiu jitsu. hanpan is doing nothing wrong, he's just helping judokas save years of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NoHE1o380Y
look at him teaching a poor old fella who's been doing a useless osoto gari for 33 years because that's how they tell you to do it. is this what you want for judo? rigid, antiquated methods and judokas who realize their mistakes after a lifetime

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 14 Jan 2025 01:21:30 UTC No. 220005

>>219990
im startong to realize that there are likely more children than adults in this thread because if you needed someone blocking your osotogari explained to you than you are either a child or have serious problems

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Jan 2025 05:04:02 UTC No. 220027

I don't know anything about judo.
Tell me about uki otoshi. It looks like some Akido shit to an outsider.
Does it work? Does it come up often?

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Jan 2025 05:41:59 UTC No. 220030

>>220027
It doesn't really come up often, and people don't really train it except for the kata to get their black belt, but the idea of cutting the corner and doing a wheel with your hands is a pretty fundamental thing.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Jan 2025 06:31:39 UTC No. 220038

We had a good laugh today when I fit into uchimata 3 times with an upward pull and then when I did it on the 4th I pulled down

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Jan 2025 06:51:01 UTC No. 220040

>>220027
>Tell me about uki otoshi
>Does it work?
Yes.

>Does it come up often?
No, it's fairly uncommon. It's very timing/momentum reliant, more-so than other throws.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 12:18:26 UTC No. 220099

So what's a good way to learn and practice if I'm a slow retarded sperg that needs to go over and over again until it clicks?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:19:28 UTC No. 220106

>>220099
Uchi komis are literally just drills where you dont execute the throw completely
so that.

you literally learn this in class

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:22:44 UTC No. 220108

>>220106
i forget a lot of teenagers use this website so they straight up dont listen to their instructor

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:57:18 UTC No. 220131

>>215864
Hey faggot OP, the old thread just now died. Wait a little longer before making the next one and actually link to the new thread from the old thread this time.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:56:58 UTC No. 220137

>>220131

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:13:29 UTC No. 220148

>>220131
Why are you, and you only, the one who gets so ass-blasted by there being two threads up at the same time? It's not like the old one is gonna get bumped and you won't be able to find this one.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:48:38 UTC No. 220210

>>220137
>too lazy to fix the number
not worried about it

>>220148
I'm not the guy who called OP a faggot in the last thread, just the guy calling OP a faggot in this thread. The issue is that it splits the discussion into two threads and prematurely kills the discussion of topics in the old thread.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:50:53 UTC No. 220211

>>220210
im not fixing the number on purpose.
Any newfag that comes to this thread needs to figure out the reference.
We need inside jokes. liven up the thread a ligtle

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:54:37 UTC No. 220212

>>220210
it doesnt
you can just cross thread. like so >>218323 in a new thread.
main problem starts is that some people dont obessively memorize or remember what they posted.
but it'll continue the discussion

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:17:52 UTC No. 220215

>>220212
>main problem starts is that some people dont obessively memorize or remember what they posted.
Correct. A problem that is largely averted when you keep the discussion in one thread.