Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 19:55:16 UTC No. 223108

>Inb4 assblast anon starts bitching and moaning again for making a new thread because of image limit reached
Also, first for Asasoyryu

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:09:11 UTC No. 223110

Nabatame bros how do we respond

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:11:24 UTC No. 223111

>>223110

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:13:07 UTC No. 223112

>>223110
>that one basho thread where a Russian anon saw that "girl" brag on 2ch about it and reposted their tweet

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:14:18 UTC No. 223113

>>223110
Lmao oh no
Dickatame

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:20:49 UTC No. 223115

>>223112
I found that thread
https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/106972229/#106978380

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:25:26 UTC No. 223116

lower the dohyo
create a womens division
remove 1 foreigner per stable rule
mandatory training and qualifications for oyakatas

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 20:33:46 UTC No. 223117

>>223110
I don't understand. Nabatame send his dick pic to some prostitute who was actually a man?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 21:14:42 UTC No. 223120

>>223110
By sending another.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 21:57:56 UTC No. 223122

>>223117
He is Thai, after all - there was no way he'd get through an entire career without at least one ladyboy-related allegation.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:00:26 UTC No. 223123

>>223110
>>223111
Given his age when it happened, shouldn't the police get involved against the hooker for sexual exploitation of a minor?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:04:43 UTC No. 223124

>>223117
It was a trans chick which makes Nabatame the first LBGTQ+ rikishi and that is so h*cking epic my fellow Redditors!!!

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:05:57 UTC No. 223125

Tobizaru intai coming in 3... 2...

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:10:33 UTC No. 223127

>>223125
2 basho suspension. The man knows no shame, he won't retire unless he's forced to, and they won't force him over something like this.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:12:13 UTC No. 223128

>>223116
raise it
build a steel cage around it
allow tag team matches
all training should be televised and structured like the world strongest man contest

I want to see truck pulls, atlas stones, everything.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:18:55 UTC No. 223129

>>223125
Has anything been proven?

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:19:21 UTC No. 223130

>>223116
>>223128
weight classes
royal rumble
elo system
U20
U17

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:19:50 UTC No. 223131

>>223116
>>223128
American Gladiator bros, we need to make sumo radical.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:23:04 UTC No. 223132

>>223129
There is this.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:29:34 UTC No. 223133

>>223116
>Remove the dohyo, have the spectators form a ring around the rikishi like a school playground fight
>Force foreigners to paint their mawashi with the design of their national flag, the same applies to hafus and other mutts
>Create a women's division, but sell it to Aylo (formerly MindGeek) immediately
>Remove oyakatas and stables entirely, force rikishi to panhandle and set up illegal toll roads to survive
>One basho a year to be held on top of Mount Fuji
>Remove all age, height, and weight limits to join professional sumo, advertise career changes to overworked salarymen on the night train home
>Every mono-ii is an automatic torinaoshi
>Rikishi must get a kachi-koshi in their final basho or retirement requests are denied
I've just fixed sumo. Thank me later.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:35:37 UTC No. 223134

>>223132
this is nothing though

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:41:41 UTC No. 223135

>>223134
"Please continue to support him, he's a nice guy and most of the allegations are false. He loves children and has a fantastic smile, he's not a bully!"
This is coming from his conservative Japanese personal fan club, and this is the best they can do to spin it. It's pretty much official now that Tobizaru is an absolute asshole, the only question now is how much punishment he's getting.

Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 23:52:04 UTC No. 223140

>>223116
Fuck off back to /redddit/ already, you piece of shit tourist faggot.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:08:22 UTC No. 223141

>>223131
I would watch this, random people going up against rikishi in an American Gladiator style event.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:47:12 UTC No. 223142

>>223141
Closest we get is the ocassional rikishi on jap game shows vs other ahtletes, but they are usually very safe challanges.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 06:55:23 UTC No. 223157

>>223132
>>charming and innocent smile

he has what? he's retard-looking MF with one of the worse sumo currently.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 06:56:25 UTC No. 223158

>>223110
orange cock?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 07:25:16 UTC No. 223161

>>223110
He sent tubgirl?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 07:42:18 UTC No. 223162

>>223135
>He a good boy!! He didnt do nuffin!

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 08:04:13 UTC No. 223164

>>223116
No weight classes but a weight limit of 330 would be good and then watch ura become Yokozuna

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 08:32:38 UTC No. 223167

>>223123
From the thread linked, this happened around March 2021. If that's right, he would have just turned 19.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 10:15:17 UTC No. 223169

>>223110
>>223115
Lmao I was in that thread. I just remembered it as some random low ranker. Can't believe it was Nabatame all along.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 10:15:40 UTC No. 223170

>>223164
330 should be the minimum weight limit. Twinks can fuck off to another sport, sumo is for the bloatlords.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:02:51 UTC No. 223173

hakuho cup soon

https://www.youtube.com/live/ihDRQoEi-NA

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 14:16:48 UTC No. 223175

>>223170
Shut up fatass ura could do kino like this every fight if everyone was pushing 400

https://youtu.be/IQtK0mHkSWE?si=wQRmvjuMPiERR68R

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 14:17:49 UTC No. 223176

>>223175
Wasn’t *

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 14:48:30 UTC No. 223177

>>223175
Takayasu weighs 400 pounds.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 18:02:20 UTC No. 223190

>>222512
This definitely doesn't include all of the fights, but these are some of them from the Fuji TV tournament.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL60ei_akshMhsng95btxqMtHSHyyt1vhT

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 18:08:02 UTC No. 223191

>>223190
It's all or nothing as far as I'm concerned. What's the deal with these yearly Fuji TV tournaments, anyway? How many days are there? Do rikishi actually care about them? I would assume they's save themselves for honbashos where performance influences ranking.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 18:45:52 UTC No. 223193

>>223191
it's 1-day tournament, juryou makuuchi only. They even list Terunofuji as intai and Kitanowaka as kyujo, so I guess they're all expected to participate. It's up to you if you want to win the 2.4mil yen for makuuchi yusho.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 19:44:52 UTC No. 223194

>>223193
Did Hosh compete as a Yokozuna or as an Ozeki?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 20:08:05 UTC No. 223195

tatsunamislop showing horseshitryu's promotion ceremony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhWNVUTP7B8

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 20:09:02 UTC No. 223196

>>223193
Wait, if it's only one day, then what's the format? I can't imagine a playoff between all 1-0s.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 20:10:12 UTC No. 223197

>>223194
He did the yokozuna dohyo-iri, so I'm guessing as yokozuna.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 20:11:21 UTC No. 223198

>>223196
Single day knockout tournament. Six rounds total for makuuchi.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 20:24:41 UTC No. 223199

>>223197
>they didn't save it for a grand tournament

Fucking weak

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 20:27:50 UTC No. 223200

>>223199
The first yokozuna dohyo-iri is always at Meiji Shrine, and he also did it at Tokushoryu's retirement event. In months where there are regional tours, he'd also perform it at each even then as well.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:06:38 UTC No. 223202

>>223194
yes he did as yokozuna and he lost to takayasu

>>223196

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:13:50 UTC No. 223203

>>223202
>inb4 lol hoshoryu lost to takayasu

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:31:58 UTC No. 223205

>>223195
This beyaslop is decent for practising Japanese listening at least.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:44:13 UTC No. 223208

Why don’t they ever show Mitas practice matches on sumo food? Mita is who we want to see.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:45:49 UTC No. 223209

>>223208
He probably practices alongside roga or in other stables, I could be completely wrong though.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:49:38 UTC No. 223211

>>223202
>he fucking blew it

I knew he would
he's going to lose the next basho too and I will forever think of him as an illegitimate yokozuna

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:50:39 UTC No. 223212

>>223208
Possibly he requested it to hide his tactics, he's definitely considered an up and coming threat and his rivals would study his videos if they could

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:00:22 UTC No. 223215

>>223211
The last time a yokozuna won the Fuji TV tournament was Kisenosato and look what happened.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:03:42 UTC No. 223216

I expect a Yokozuna to win every single time. That's the weight of the title.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:05:36 UTC No. 223217

>>223211
Hosh got promoted because of how good he was in the clutch. Relax, he'll go at least 12-3 or better in March and either Y or JY. Screencap this.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:06:36 UTC No. 223218

>>223216
hakubabs...

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:08:19 UTC No. 223219

>>223217
He'll go 2-3-10

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:11:10 UTC No. 223220

>>223219
Leaving to prevent his injury from ruining his career... what a great yokozuna...

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:11:17 UTC No. 223221

>>223216
What if there are two?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:11:54 UTC No. 223222

>>223221
Then one of them should win against the other in a day 15 playoff.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:12:10 UTC No. 223223

>>223221
Then every basho should come down to a 14-0 face off between them. The loser gets taken out back and shot, Old Yeller style.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:12:26 UTC No. 223224

>>223221
The one must decapitate the other until only one remains.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:15:04 UTC No. 223225

>>223223
What if there are three?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:15:08 UTC No. 223226

>>223211
>>223215
The Fuji TV tournament isn't particularly serious even with the cash prize in consideration (which was reduced due to the scandal). He should be fine unless the yokozuna hangover gets to him.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:16:30 UTC No. 223227

>>223226
If his willpower is anywhere near as strong as we saw in the last 6 days of January, he'll do just fine. No one is more furious about his 3 losses to maegashira than him, and if he's anything like uncle then the fury only makes him better.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:33:45 UTC No. 223228

Roga looked like a child against Onosato
Just walked out

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:39:12 UTC No. 223229

>>223228
OnoGODS WW@???

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:40:22 UTC No. 223230

>>223229
Onosato is going to zensho the next basho to begin his yokozuna run

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:41:45 UTC No. 223231

>>223230
I'd bet against a zensho but the idea of Onosato getting the yusho while Hoshoryu merely puts up a solid performance isn't an unlikely scenario. Just don't forget that Takeru exists and requires souls.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:46:02 UTC No. 223232

>>223230
14-1
That loss? Abi after another nodawa at the tachiai + pulldown.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:47:37 UTC No. 223233

>>223232
He won't get matched against Abi at all. His loss will be to Midorifuji who said fuck it and tried a nodowa for the first time.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:49:30 UTC No. 223234

>>223231
But also don't forget what Hoshoryu did to Takerufuji in January.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:50:33 UTC No. 223235

>>223234
>The bronze bull cannot charge if you simply lift him off the ground
I haven't forgotten. Nor have I forgotten his casual head throw of Onosato.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:54:30 UTC No. 223237

Can't believe they had a whole tournament and the best footage we get is from a cellphone in the nosebleeds

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:56:27 UTC No. 223238

>>223237
This is what happens when you cover up a scandal so badly that all your sponsors end up dropping out. Only reason why the tournament itself still went ahead is because the tickets were already sold.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 23:11:12 UTC No. 223241

>>223238
Can't believe Tobizaru wearing lingerie and Nabatame's dick were that big of a deal.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 23:30:24 UTC No. 223242

>>223237
America should order Japan to televise any and all sumo events with full English commentary, or Hiroshima gets it again.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 23:37:12 UTC No. 223243

>>223242
Has there been a single rikishi from Hiroshima or Nagasaki since 1945?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 23:42:29 UTC No. 223245

>>223243
Is that a serious question?

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 23:53:38 UTC No. 223246

>>223245
No, I know the answer is no because their bloodlines ended when they couldn't resist gigachad uranium energy.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 23:56:51 UTC No. 223247

>>223243
Lots. You can sort by shusshin on sumodb.

Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 23:58:07 UTC No. 223248

>>223247
Any worth caring about?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:19:25 UTC No. 223251

>>223243
Many. Of the current active, Nagasaki has Hiradoumi and Tsushimanada. The rest are lower division shitters.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:33:58 UTC No. 223252

>>223246
k

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:35:22 UTC No. 223253

>>223252
Why does the rope look so small on him?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:36:01 UTC No. 223254

>>223253
>gigachad uranium energy
apparently.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:36:36 UTC No. 223255

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:38:19 UTC No. 223256

>>223255
Kino fight. Makes me wish a true thruster like Daieisho was a zuna contender.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:41:22 UTC No. 223257

>>223253
Probably just a snugger fit. Most modern tsuna seem to sag a bit.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:54:39 UTC No. 223260

>>223242
We could make them do it just by withholding Shohei Otani games for a month

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 08:14:37 UTC No. 223274

>>223208
>>223212

I had been wondering if that was just an oversight but after the latest video with Roga where he and Mita specifically reference their practice bouts, I'm guessing they're doing everything to expedite his becoming a sekitori.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 13:59:31 UTC No. 223280

who tf is mita

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 14:52:14 UTC No. 223283

>>223280
the newbie without chonmage in futa's videos (not the underage boy). he seems actually talented compared to the stable shitters.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 14:58:40 UTC No. 223284

>>223274
That would make sense to me. After all, this is the only time when Mita is going to be relatively unknown to his opponents, being a tsukedashi debutant when most of them came up fighting eachother in the lower divisions, so the longer he can take advantage of that, the better it'll be.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:00:53 UTC No. 223285

>>223283
>he seems actually talented compared to the stable shitters.
He's already third highest in the stable, he'll be in makushita joi for March.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:10:46 UTC No. 223286

>Shodai
>Married with son

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:04:01 UTC No. 223296

>>223286
Wasn't Shodai being married common knowledge?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:18:46 UTC No. 223297

>>223296
Apparently not, I certainly didn't know (or care to find out desu), but the chris video did say that he'd been keeping it hidden deliberately

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:21:20 UTC No. 223298

>>223297
I'm sure I saw a clip of him dancing with corn at something wedding related and just assumed he was married.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:54:10 UTC No. 223300

>>223296
I assume that anyone who's been in the top division for a while is married. There are obviously some exceptions, but a high-ranking rikishi is a great marriage prospect - tall and/or strong, reasonably famous, and relatively rich. Unless he's a "confirmed bachelor" he's going to get snapped up sooner or later.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:57:34 UTC No. 223301

>>223300
Noooo but they're fat

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:58:35 UTC No. 223302

>>223301
Due to buildup of fat at the base of the penis they likely almost all have pretty small dicks too.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:59:22 UTC No. 223303

>>223302
Is this even really a thing? I've lost like 80 pounds the past year and my dong doesn't look any bigger. Do you have to be like super obese for it to matter?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:01:25 UTC No. 223304

>>223303
Fupa is one of the last areas to lose fat

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:03:46 UTC No. 223305

>>223303
Gonna need some proof anon ;) It's okay just pretend you're Nabatame and I'm a Thai ladyboy.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:12:32 UTC No. 223306

>>223305

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:23:44 UTC No. 223307

>>223303
It's BS.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:35:42 UTC No. 223308

>>223306
Sumo wrestlers can't drive. This edit sucks!

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:39:33 UTC No. 223309

>>223308
He's in the passenger seat.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:40:20 UTC No. 223310

>>223308
They have steering wheels on the right side amerimutt-san

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:41:10 UTC No. 223311

>>223310
Don't even pretend that was deliberate, you twit.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 18:43:09 UTC No. 223312

>>223311
it wasn't deliberate, but I don't see a steering wheel. Do you?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 21:06:37 UTC No. 223317

It's that time again. We've witnessed Hoshoryu's promotion, argued about modernization, and discussed the latest round of scandals, but the next basho is still weeks away. Do we have to hope someone like the sumo historian or the bike autist arrives to entertain us, or does anyone have anything original and interesting to discuss?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 21:08:50 UTC No. 223319

>>223317
Sumo should lower the dohyo down to ground level and eliminate ring out victories. If they have to brawl into the crowd before one of them falls, so be it.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 21:22:09 UTC No. 223320

>>223317
>does anyone have anything original and interesting to discuss

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 21:23:49 UTC No. 223321

>>223317
Shodai married a Dinner Lady.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 21:32:04 UTC No. 223322

>>223317
If we can find some better footage we could talk about the fujitv tournament more

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 21:59:36 UTC No. 223324

>>223317
We could pretend we're a stable again and post heights and weights and shikona, it was mildly amusing last year seeing that the thread is an almost perfect split between twinks and fatties. Does anyone remember what our stable was called?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:02:28 UTC No. 223325

>>223324
I propose 無名山部屋 for the stable name.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:22:51 UTC No. 223326

>>223325
Basado. Now give us which part of the shikona is stable-related. Or do we just go like Anonikuni, Anonoyama etc..

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:26:15 UTC No. 223328

>>223326
>Now give us which part of the shikona is stable-related
Uhhh the entire thing?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:33:37 UTC No. 223329

>>223328
He wants to do a theme like the -fujis or the -umis

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:36:29 UTC No. 223330

>>223329
Oh. Slap 無名- on the front and call it a day. Dibs on 無名の里.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:38:18 UTC No. 223331

>>223330
I'm gonna need more help with this kind of thing, I don't know any Japanese

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:40:01 UTC No. 223332

>>223331
Well give me your favourite rikishi and I'll try to use their name to give you an anonymous shikona.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:45:57 UTC No. 223333

>>223332
Onosato is my favorite, with Takerufuji and Hiradoumi in second and third, respectively.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:47:40 UTC No. 223334

>>223333
>Hiradoumi
I dub thee 無名の犬 (Mumeinoinu (Anonymous Dog)).

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:48:26 UTC No. 223335

>>223330
無名の豚 reporting in. I volunteer for chanko duty.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:49:53 UTC No. 223336

>>223335
>Pork again? This is the 6th day straight!

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:53:45 UTC No. 223337

>>223331
Me neither, but Google translate says he just dibbed on Mumeinosato, which sounds about right to me.

I'll go with 無名丸. "Anonymous sphere."
185 cm
200 kg
Looks like a perfectly round meatball. Fights like a bigger Takakeisho. His stablemates say he bulked up on american crunchy snacks.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:54:56 UTC No. 223338

>>223337
Literally just Nabatame by the time he hits makuuchi.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:56:13 UTC No. 223339

Apparently, Hakuho cup starts in about an hour. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ihDRQoEi-NA

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:58:16 UTC No. 223340

>>223338
Would be kino, but it ain't happening without some leg breaking surgery. Nabatame is basically the same height (2cm taller, to be exact).

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:59:31 UTC No. 223341

>>223340
He's still just 22 so there might be a little more height left in him. Still laughing at his gooner right arm being a legit weapon.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 23:00:28 UTC No. 223342

>>223337
>american crunchy snacks
I believe it, a bag of cheetos is like 2000 calories

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 23:51:51 UTC No. 223344

>>223334
I appreciate the effort but I don't really want to be a dog lol

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 23:53:56 UTC No. 223345

>>223339
Looks like it's starting
there's a black kid there for some reason

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 23:55:33 UTC No. 223346

>>223345
>there's a black kid there for some reason

https://combatpress.com/2024/05/video-nfl-star-micah-parsons-gets-humbled-by-sumo-wrestler/

Please anon we're talking about the Hakuho Cup not a random Tuesday at Arashio.

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 23:57:54 UTC No. 223347

>>223346
Am I wrong?

Anonymous at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 23:59:01 UTC No. 223348

>>223347
>黒の山
Ngl, Kuronoyama would be a decent shikona.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 00:01:21 UTC No. 223349

I spy a white kid too, back to the camera

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 00:06:29 UTC No. 223350

Is there a schedule?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 00:09:53 UTC No. 223351

>milkman gyoji

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 01:59:46 UTC No. 223353

>>223350

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 02:05:48 UTC No. 223354

>>223353
Thanks.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 03:01:47 UTC No. 223357

>wearing shorts with mawashi
haha faggots

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 04:05:27 UTC No. 223362

>>223339

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 12:52:01 UTC No. 223371

>>223317
Sakai Tadamasa credits Hitachiyama and Umegatani II with being at the center of the late Meiji sumo revival, but gives the circumstances of Umegatani I's yokozuna promotion in Meiji 17 (1884) as having provided the spark which set about the sumo revival in the first place.

Sakai claims that sumo was on the verge of dying out altogether when Umegatani I arrived, and that he wrecked everyone's shit thoroughly enough to get noticed by political figures. He received a yokozuna license from both the Yoshida Tsukasa and the Gojou in February; and, in March, the eminent figures of sumo were summoned to wrestle before the Emperor on the grounds of the Enryoukan (pictured).

While the imperial lineage had gone to watch sumo matches often enough throughout the years (tenranzumou), this was supposedly the first time since the Heian period (794-1185) that the imperial family had actually *hosted* a sumo event of their own. As such, all the oyakata and rikishi came dressed in their finest montsuki haori and hakama. Umegatani performed his yokozuna dohyou-iri in a mawashi commissioned by Itou Hirobumi, the most powerful politician in Japan at the time. The matches went on for around 8 hours, and the Meiji emperor was reportedly enthralled throughout.

The book I'm looking at doesn't have any details on how the bouts went, but I'm sure there are details somewhere out there. If nothing else, this attention from important figures incentivized a renewed investment in sumo, which then brought about the so-called golden age of Hitachi-Ume.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 12:53:42 UTC No. 223372

>>223371
Emperor in the top right looking stern, Umegatani in the middle looking somewhat scared.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 13:00:30 UTC No. 223373

>>223371
>>223372
It's been a few years since the Emperor last attended a basho, no? IIRC the current Emperor only attended once since his enthronement, while the previous Emperor was an avid fan and tried to attend every Aki.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:01:25 UTC No. 223375

>owie neewedles hwurtie

THIS?!! Is our next yokozuna?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:07:17 UTC No. 223377

https://youtu.be/Je3y80b9_QA?si=MTRnlALs12W-OL82

Any updates on this kid?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 15:05:01 UTC No. 223378

>>223375
No hinkaku. But that's what we all expected, isn't it? I was still rather disappointed with his lack of gravity and dignity. The giggling, the laughing, he was like a teenage girl during the promotion.

I guess it's just his personality. Not my taste.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 15:07:41 UTC No. 223379

>>223378
>I was still rather disappointed with his lack of gravity and dignity.
He's 25 man, fuck off.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 15:32:35 UTC No. 223380

>>223377
He took 3rd place among 6th graders in the Hakuhou Cup in April 2023 and seemingly has not been mentioned since. There is a single reference to a "Kumagai" making it to the Best 8 in a regional children's tournament in July 2024, but with no first name included, so it may or may not be him.

The way his family name is spelled is also the name of a city, and the name of an amateur sumo blogger (?), so that's all I could find.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 15:42:17 UTC No. 223382

>>223380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez6p6KqOB8U&t=729s
Here's the footage of him (left) losing in the Hakuhou Cup.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:03:22 UTC No. 223384

>>223382
>spending 5 minutes staring at the tachi-ai like he's an ozeki in makuuchi

lad got cocky, way too cocky

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:04:26 UTC No. 223386

>>223379
>he's only 17 years and 2,920 days old!!!!

Lol

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:45:46 UTC No. 223390

>>223384
He's 12.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:03:30 UTC No. 223392

>>223390
Funny, that was the same excuse used to defend Hoshoryus behavior.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:15:34 UTC No. 223393

>>223379
I expect everyone to behave in a dignified manner while out in public. This is even more of an expectation for a professional during a solemn occasion. I expect someone taking on the duty and responsibilities of a Yokozuna, along with the privileges inherent to the role, to take it seriously and conduct himself with as much dignity as he can muster.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:17:46 UTC No. 223394

>>223393
Then you have unrealistic expectations. Also consider that as a Yokozuna (or any major public figure), it probably becomes very difficult to realize when you're actually "in public". If you expect a 25 year old to be solemn and stern at all times, that's on you.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:23:54 UTC No. 223395

Why do zoomers think their childhood continues until 29?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:34:32 UTC No. 223396

>>223395
If you've lived through your 20s with other people living through theirr 20s, you'd have a good grasp of what people in their 20s are like. Especially people in their early 20s.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:35:49 UTC No. 223397

>>223395
Because yokozunas Kitanofuji, Taihou, Kashiwado, and Chiyonoyama smuggled guns into Japan and went unpunished.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:36:45 UTC No. 223398

>>223396
Everyone older than 20 lived through their 20s you fucking retard

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:40:06 UTC No. 223399

>>223398
Not true at all. That's like saying you've gone through your English textbook when you've clearly only read the first couple pages.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:05:48 UTC No. 223400

>>223399
It's still an idiotic line of argument unless you think we're all underage, which we aren't.

And it's one thing for a 12 year old to act childishly. It's quite another for a 25 year old Yokozuna.

I can't believe I even have to respond to this dumb shit.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:11:17 UTC No. 223402

>>223400
>I can't believe I even have to respond to this dumb shit.
You don't. You're not even good at it, so maybe you shouldn't. Someone called me a zoomer because I acknowledged that yeah, if you put a 20 year old in front of a camera he might pull a face. Ridiculous fucking pearl clutching. If you want to complain about him not deserving to be yokozuna, why not just start with him never winning two consecutive yusho instead of trying to lean on the bullshit non-criterion they added just to block foreigners.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:16:48 UTC No. 223403

>>223402
Where did you get a 20 year old from?
If I didn't respond, a dumbass like you might actually think they were right about something, so yes I do have to. I'm pearl clutching because I want a 25 year old (specifically note that this is not 20 years old as you deceptively stated in your bad faith argument) YOKOZUNA to behave like an adult with some dignity.

Read back through the threads if you want to see me shitting on his win record, most of those are my posts anyway, shitnuts.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:22:21 UTC No. 223404

>>223403
>I'm pearl clutching
Yeah no shit. Stop it. If you don't have anything substantial to say then just shut up. Try having some hinkaku yourself instead of larping as an angry old Japanese man.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:28:40 UTC No. 223405

>>223404
>Stop it! You're being mean! Stop!

Lol are you actually underage? Well geez kid, I'm sorry I insulted your favorite wrestler but it wasn't personal.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:29:45 UTC No. 223406

The truth is, no wrestlers care about hinkaku anymore. Most of the top division is university grads now so they act like frat boys instead of having discipline whipped into them as teenagers. The top division guys who aren't university grads see this and act the same.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:10:50 UTC No. 223407

>>223406
>no wrestlers care about hinkaku anymore
>anymore
Hinkaku, in its capacity as a sumo term, was invented and codified by YDC chairman Takayoshi Yoshitaka in 1987 as a direct response to Futahaguro. It was subsequently used only to argue that foreigners could never become yokozuna. It had never meant anything before 1987 and was never used as grounds to criticize any rikishi re their legitimacy or 'sumo-ness', regardless of their behaviour.
I have a book from before 1987 which dedicates several pages to tearing into yokozuna Nishinoumi II as a complete fraud who bought all of his wins, blackmailed other rikishi, took bribes and was affiliated with yakuza. The word "hinkaku" does not appear in this book.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:11:52 UTC No. 223408

>>223407
Takahashi Yoshitaka*

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:28:20 UTC No. 223409

>>223407
Yeah right the Japanese had never even heard of dignity before 1987

Fuck off retard

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:31:22 UTC No. 223410

>>223409
Did you just skip over the part in the commas? Read the post again but try to stay awake even when you hit the punctuation. (Comma omitted out of respect for your condition)

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:31:50 UTC No. 223411

>>223407
In other words, it's one of those things that existed but didn't need to be outright spelled out until Futahaguro fucked everything up.
Originally yokozuna were supposed to be the public face of sumo to the shogun and imperial court, and Hitachiyama famously performed sumo in the US in front of the President to improve the image of sumo and Japanese people in general. Of course they would need to act with dignity, because they represented all of sumo. If a yokozuna acted like a tard then the highest authorities would think that all sumo wrestlers were tards.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:34:08 UTC No. 223412

>>223411
Thanks for writing this up so I don't have to. Goddamn.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:36:08 UTC No. 223413

>>223378
>>223393
even oyakata said he himself was taking sumo life too serious and didnt not enjoy the success much. He said to neph to enjoy it and he does. What's wrong with smiling and gigling? he's 25. He's still behaving better than his uncle.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:39:32 UTC No. 223414

>>223411
>If a yokozuna acted like a tard then the highest authorities would think that all sumo wrestlers were tards.
You didn't read the post either. His entire post is about a yokozuna, Nishinoumi II, being a scumbag. It's NOT "one of those things that existed but didn't need to be outright" and I don't know why you think a yokozuna buying wins and blackmailing people somehow demonstrates some high standard of dignity yokozuna were always held to. His post demonstrates the complete opposite.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:39:45 UTC No. 223415

>>223413
He's not behaving better, just differently. Uncle was a warrior and everyone could tell. Nephew is a little girl and everyone can tell that too.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:40:56 UTC No. 223416

>>223414
No, it doesn't, moron. The exception proves the rule, just like Futahaguro. If he wasn't an embarrassing piece of shit he wouldn't have been mentioned in that context, like the proper Yokozuna.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:41:14 UTC No. 223417

>>223414
Is there any evidence of Nishinoumi II's behaviour other than one guy's schizo ramblings? Takatoriki thought the same about Hakuho and nobody takes him seriously for obvious reasons.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:41:22 UTC No. 223418

The idea that the definition of 'dignified, adult behavior' is '24/7 hyperstoic complete suppression of all sense of child-like engagement with and of life's experiences' is one of the most absurd, ridiculous ideas I have ever read. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your miserable, wretched soul.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:43:10 UTC No. 223419

>>223418
And your hyperbolic, child argument convinces nobody of anything except that you're a twit that can only argue in bad faith. You might as well be on Twitter.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:44:35 UTC No. 223420

>>223419
Your continued screeching like a stuck pig at all this is very undignified. In fact, it's far less dignified than I've ever seen Hoshoryu behave.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:45:31 UTC No. 223421

>>223420
I thought you didn't care about dignity. Now you're resorting to personal attacks?

Lol. Lmao even. Sorry I rekt your ass.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:48:52 UTC No. 223422

>>223416
Again I learn that information can only cure ignorance, nothing can cure stupid. You'll be buried in a dunce cap. God bless.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:54:55 UTC No. 223424

>>223422
Yeah, you and that other guy are absolute fucking retards. I know you think you're the smart one here but that's the opposite of what's happening. You're a fucking drooling dipshit and arrogant beyond belief.

Burn in hell. Fuck your god. Only morons believe in silly fairy tale men in the sky, you embarrassing piece of dumb shit.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:01:52 UTC No. 223425

>>223378
The JSA are probably fine with it since he's promotable as hell. I imagine he'll grow into the role as he's still on the young side of things. If you were expecting another Akebono with the face of a serial killer it ain't happening.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:06:04 UTC No. 223426

>>223425
Onosato will give me the fierce and unrelenting Yokozuna I want to see

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:08:11 UTC No. 223427

>>223426
that dude already has a bullying scandal, how mad's the dude who's furious about hoshoryu making a funny face gonna be if HE gets promoted?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:08:55 UTC No. 223428

>>223427
I am that dude, dumbass.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:11:32 UTC No. 223429

>>223427
Onosato's "scandal" is fucking pathetic. Being complicit in underage drinking? Fucking hell most people do that of their own volition, that's baby shit. It only blew up because the JSA wanted to wag their finger at him at least once before he became Ozeki.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:13:22 UTC No. 223430

>>223428
>A bully's fine, great hinkaku there!
>Making a funny face in a photo? SHAMEFUL
Sounds like you really do get the true meaning behind hinkaku (keeping foreigners out) well.

>>223429
You don't understand the issue of power harassment, I guess. If he was doing it of his own volition there wouldn't be a problem. It wasn't Onosato buying a pack of Coor's for his underage buddy, it was him forcing some kid he's supposed to be taking care of to drink beyond what he was comfortable doing.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:15:51 UTC No. 223431

>>223430
That's still baby shit desu, Onosato WILL be a daiyokozuna. Crazy to think that his Ozeki run contained two yushos.

Here's a question, who had the best Ozeki run in sumo history? Onosato has to be up there.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:23:48 UTC No. 223432

>>223431
In terms of yusho yes, Onosato is only the second to have two yushos in the three basho before ozeki promotion, the other one being Minanogawa back in 1933/34. However, his 9-6 in between meant he only had 34 wins over the three. The record for total wins in an ozeki run is 37, shared by Yutakayama, Hokutenryu, Wakanohana III, and Tochinoshin.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:26:37 UTC No. 223433

>>223432
Tochinoshin
>*cracks white monster*
now THAT was Ozeki.

Although desu if the guys with 37 wins didn't yusho in the first two then they didn't have to deal with yusho sickness mid-Ozeki run.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:35:23 UTC No. 223436

>>223433
>yusho sickness
Doesn't actually exist, guys who yusho have a higher chance of getting a higher score than guys the same rank who don't yusho. "Yusho hangover" is confirmation bias, when yusho momentum is more likely.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:37:15 UTC No. 223437

>>223436
If yusho sickness isn't a thing why did Takerufuji do so badly after winning huh???

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:43:52 UTC No. 223438

>>223437
He was injured bro and he did fine, better than Roga ever has

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:45:23 UTC No. 223439

>>223438
What did Roga do to deserve these shots you are firing???

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:56:39 UTC No. 223440

>>223439
Preview of the next scandal. In the recent Futagoyama video, Roga mentioned that he couldn't go home for New Year's since it was too far away, so he'd "find somewhere to stay". It turns out that Roga has been "staying" with every bored housewife in Katsushika. That's why you rarely see him in practice videos, and that's why this guy is seemingly attacking him for no reason.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:57:44 UTC No. 223441

>>223440
>Roga has been "staying" with every bored housewife in Katsushika
Yeah, me.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:55:21 UTC No. 223444

>>223440
lol I hope that's true

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:34:17 UTC No. 223453

>Tanikaze, which of these bikes would you prefer: the Dogma F12 or the Canyon Aeroad CFR? Whichever one you take, I will have the other.
>Raiden, I will leave the decision to you. If the velocipedic concern shall determine one's place in history, then no better can my judgment in this matter be vested than unto the hands of my friend.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:40:06 UTC No. 223456

this was the pre-basho sumo stable power rankings >>217607
how have they changed post-basho?
clearly isegahama is probably down some, but hakuoho & takerufuji has strong showings? does isegahama still rank 1st place? arashio is definitely down, tatsunami is probably up, but their other two salarymen both made MK, so maybe not up so much

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:41:57 UTC No. 223457

new tatsunamislop has arrived https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg0gm7s36bE

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:47:19 UTC No. 223459

>>223456
Miyagino is going to be reestablished, so all their rikishi should be counted separately from Isegahama.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:48:09 UTC No. 223460

>>223456
I feel like stable power rankings would be better organized as a tierlist as opposed to a list.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:00:18 UTC No. 223461

>>223459
Not until it actually happens. Things can still fuck up.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:00:35 UTC No. 223462

>>223460
>as a list.
I meant a list in the sense of just giving everyone a specific rank as opposed to lumping stables in different grades of quality.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:14:08 UTC No. 223463

How did Off-Basho General go from being a 3 post a day thread a couple months ago to being a 70 post a day thread currently?

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:16:58 UTC No. 223464

>>223463
New yokozuna.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:29:33 UTC No. 223465

>>223463
People venting their grievances

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:44:10 UTC No. 223467

>>223463
New yokozuna and at least one autist can't handle the fact that reality refuses to conform to his absurd preconceptions.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:48:20 UTC No. 223468

>>223463
we might as well just stay on /sp/ if we're going to have multiple pph

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:52:38 UTC No. 223469

>>223468
It'll calm down after a few months. This basho was just an extraordinary case.

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:54:01 UTC No. 223471

>>223456
Ikazuchi moves up the rankings for sure
Ajigawa gets on the list too
Onosato up to O1e & Shirokuma getting either J1 or a full makuuchi promotion should advance Nishonoseki's rank

Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 23:56:16 UTC No. 223472

>>223469
>It'll calm down after a few months
gang TMD will be filling up the thread with Joke-ozuna and No-kozuna posts come April

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:32:02 UTC No. 223473

>>223467
There are multiple autists here and that's why we're getting so fiery lately

I like it
fire is better than dead

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:43:32 UTC No. 223474

MANLETS WILL THEY EVER LEARN???

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:47:49 UTC No. 223475

I hate onosucko but after the horshityu pity promotion I hope he makes it to zuna. Mongolians (other than hakuho) deserve to be launched into the sun horshityu is going to be a kinboshi dispenser and has no hinkaku.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:48:59 UTC No. 223476

>>223475
Nephew got a yusho equivalent and a yusho with an excellent playoff. Don't call his promotion pity like he's K*senosato or some other form of garbage.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:54:01 UTC No. 223477

>>223110
hahaha
knobatame

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:57:38 UTC No. 223480

>>223477
Whoa good one anon

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:11:03 UTC No. 223481

>>223476
Kisenosato's promotion WAS a pity promotion and it still mogged Hoshoryu's. I can't believe nephew dickriders legitimately try to argue that beating maegashira is more impressive than beating multiple yokozuna and ozeki.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:12:40 UTC No. 223482

>>223476
If he doesn't yusho in March then he will be worse than Kisenosato, simple as that.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:13:21 UTC No. 223483

>>223481
What yokozuna was Hoshoryu supposed to beat in his last two basho exactly? What a fucking gaylord of a post.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:20:56 UTC No. 223484

>>223482
I'm going to be picking him in my fantasy sumo tbdesu. No one is going to be more furious about the prospect of the new yokozuna underperforming than Hoshoryu.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:23:13 UTC No. 223485

>>223483
It's not Hoshoryu's fault there were no yokozuna for him to beat. Doesn't change the fact that his run was less impressive than Kisenosato.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:24:09 UTC No. 223486

>>223485
>t. Stevie fucking Wonder

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:44:49 UTC No. 223489

>>223486
>t. helen keller

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 01:56:08 UTC No. 223490

reminder

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 02:08:07 UTC No. 223491

>>223490
blessed Hakuho
we will never see his like again

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 02:23:05 UTC No. 223493

>>223456
Pending banzuke:
S+: Oitekaze
A+: Isegama
A: Kise
B: Takadagawa, Tatsunami
C: Sadogatake, Arashio
D: Kataonami (will probably drop)
F: Everyone else

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 02:43:00 UTC No. 223496

>>223493
I really like kise stable but they are on the decline big time. Other than kinbozan having a fluke performance all they have is Ura and he won’t make it back to Sanyaku. All their juryo guys are getting old and about to get bounced by the young up and comers.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 02:49:44 UTC No. 223499

>>223490
Kisenosato beat Hakuho twice for his rope, which is better than going 1-1 with KotozACKura no matter how you want to cope.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:07:59 UTC No. 223502

>>223493
Oitekaze is going to lose 2 or three out of the bottom end of juryo, Daieisho was their only KK amongst salarymen. No way should their ranking go up

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:09:55 UTC No. 223503

>>223496
>kinbozan having a fluke performance
he won juryo in november, anyone who wasn't expecting double digit wins from him wasn't paying attention

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:14:24 UTC No. 223504

>>223499
Kisenosato had the 2nd most career wins against Hakuho. He also had the 3rd best winning percentage against Hakuho after the two mongs who got kicked out

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:14:27 UTC No. 223505

>>223503
Winning juryo should be the expectation for a makuuchi guy who falls down to juryo.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:14:34 UTC No. 223506

>>223503
Is he going to be in yusho contention this basho? Call it now if you dare

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:18:49 UTC No. 223508

>>223502
tobi is also getting a long suspension and will end up in makushita or below, oitekaze pretty much has two sekitori and should be ranked somewhere around where sakaigawa it

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:20:23 UTC No. 223509

>>223493
I think any stable that has at least one sekitori doesn't deserve F tier, even if they only have one juryo jobber.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:27:52 UTC No. 223510

>>223506
he'll be low joi which is slightly above his natural rank, 7-8

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 05:57:42 UTC No. 223516

>>223453
hehe, god I love bikeposting

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 07:02:54 UTC No. 223520

>>223504
>He also had the 3rd best winning percentage against Hakuho after the two mongs who got kicked out
Not even close to third. What are you on?

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 08:27:04 UTC No. 223525

>>223453
Fuck you, I laughed.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 13:12:28 UTC No. 223528

Hosh's dohyo iri somehow seems both drawn out and rushed at the same time. His shuffling is over way quicker than just about any other zuna. Low marks from me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5Boz6lShA

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 13:31:55 UTC No. 223529

>>223528
He has been yokozuna for what, two weeks? Just wait for the end of the year and he has ironed everything out and developed his dohyo-iri style.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 13:35:53 UTC No. 223530

>>223528
Tsubotaa has a whole thing on the subtle differences of everyone's dohyou-iri even before they get to the stomping.
http://tsubotaa.la.coocan.jp/yokoki/yokoki29.html

There's also a mind-breaking dohyou-iri style inheritance graphic with four different branches of modern-day Unryu style.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:39:29 UTC No. 223532

>>223529
They should start practicing the dohyo-iri BEFORE the promotion. I bet some of them have done.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:48:07 UTC No. 223534

>>223453
>Sumo
>Roadbikes

Gross. Some fat tire bike with no dropper and maybe an ebike version is the ultimate bike. the commuter kind may even be better.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:02:13 UTC No. 223540

>>223534
I shall respect your opinion on which bikes are best for rikishi when you show me your shimenawa.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:03:31 UTC No. 223541

Cycling is so cringey and gay and associating with sumo is the most they can do to lend their gay hobby some masculinity

>it's not gay
Yeah tell it to your multicolored spandex, fruitcake

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:03:58 UTC No. 223542

>>223540
b-but then I could never get married...!

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:22:16 UTC No. 223544

>>223541
You can't complain about multicoloured spandex when we watch big, sweaty men grapple wearing loincloths every other month. Sumo is one of the most homoerotic sports in existence and we all know it.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:44:21 UTC No. 223546

>>223544
I would argue that wrestling is five times more gay than sumo, unless you are a barafag
people don't usually consider fatness to be attractive

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:47:29 UTC No. 223547

>>223544
Sumo is absolutely bereft of sexual attractiveness and you know it. It's a sport of functionality.

Pic related!
I was going to post this just on it's own but it's actually does tie in here

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:52:54 UTC No. 223548

>>223540
im the original bike poster, of course i know whats best

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:53:24 UTC No. 223549

>>223547
>absolutely bereft of sexual attractiveness
kek

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:00:41 UTC No. 223551

>>223546
its fans, yes, but this is 4chan and one trip to trash or d will let you know that there are vile degenerates that would love to have an ugly bastard like gonoyama sit on their face without wiping
>>223547
>noone has built 200kg of muscle before
Peak thor brian. eddie maybe. i don't think Z ever got that heavy, but you could include him

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:12:02 UTC No. 223554

>>223547
>Sumo is absolutely bereft of sexual attractiveness
Say that to Tobizaru in his women's underwear.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:29:56 UTC No. 223557

>>223551
None of those men were lean at their peak weights. Thor was reasonably lean at about 150kg, but could certainly have cut more. Teru knows what he's talking about, you'd have to be inhuman to be 200kg lean.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:34:27 UTC No. 223558

>>223551
>>223557
The only people who could be lean 200kg were roided up bodybuilders with dehydrated saran wrap bodies back in the golden age of bodybuilding when everyone was snorting roids and coke for breakfast. The kind Vince McMahon would jerk off over before his own steroid trial.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:37:11 UTC No. 223559

>>223558
Yeah, one of those guys - a seven-foot Ronnie Coleman, perhaps.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:41:02 UTC No. 223560

>>223544
>Sumo is one of the most homoerotic sports in existence and we all know it.
Nothing in the world can be homoerotic unless you are homosexual. Judas kissed Christ, and Yuujirou raped Joe William, and neither of these things were homoerotic.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:46:14 UTC No. 223561

>>223560
>Judas kissed Christ
On the cheek! They were European! COME ON!

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:57:30 UTC No. 223563

【Zak News】He's been crushing practice bouts with other makuuchi rikishi, going 13-2 one day and 19-3 the next. Is he back???

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:07:51 UTC No. 223564

>>223557
thor still had abs at 210kg.
nobody cares about lighting maxed 70kg "lean" because skin and bones only rwinks definition of real size
you also have greg kovaks +190kg off season

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:17:21 UTC No. 223565

>>223564
1/2Thor is literally 50% hgh

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:45:59 UTC No. 223568

>>223564
Your bloatmaxxed weight is not the same as the weight of your muscle. Thor's roid-bloated intestines pushing his abs out doesn't make him lean.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:55:27 UTC No. 223569

>>223568
>Your bloatmaxxed weight is not the same as the weight of your muscle. Thor's roid-bloated intestines pushing his abs out doesn't make him lean.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:06:14 UTC No. 223570

>>223569
His point was that despite "having abs", halfthor still has significant bodyfat and is thus not 200kg of muscle.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:25:08 UTC No. 223571

>>223570
You cant be 100% muscle. Taking it literally is pointless. In this context, thor is basically what terunofuji is getting at.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:37:09 UTC No. 223572

Shishi is officially Russian now. The new borders have been draw up and Melitopol is in Russian territory.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:44:12 UTC No. 223573

>>223572
>There are now two Russian sekitori

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:44:49 UTC No. 223574

>>223571
He isn't - the context is sumo. It refers to the fact that a good proportion of a 200kg rikishi's body weight is fat. The same applies to peak Thor or other massive strongmen. Both categories have bulked up to the largest bodyweight they can sustain for optimal performance in a contest where bodyweight is an advantage. He's saying "We have to sacrifice an aesthetic physique in favour of a powerful one".

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:47:06 UTC No. 223575

new Chrisslop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQFNZt8UGww
seems like Zak is over whatever injuries were hampering him during the 'sho

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:59:30 UTC No. 223576

>>223574
Another issue with the Halfthor route is that that training is only going to train him basically just in doing those exercises. That's why WSM contests are just...exercises. Sumo is a whole other beast and half of it is skill, not size.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:08:01 UTC No. 223577

>>223574
The context isn't sumo if he says no one, unless there is something he said before the cc in that image.
The tradeoff is irrelevant to this conversation. What matters more is that people are overestimating bodyfat percentages. Thor is probably 16 to 19% bf there. Ray Williams, king powerlifting squat bloat lord, was only 24%. Brian shaw was under 18 at +400.
>>223576
this is a more correct way to evaluate. Its hard to build muscle and stay injured with sumo's schedule. there isn't really room for improvement once you make the top ranks. you get maybe 2-3weeks of spoty training before in-between basho practices, tournaments, and events makes ideal training strenght/size basically impossible.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:17:40 UTC No. 223578

>>223577
I think he most probably did say something before that, it would be quite a strange video if there was just a jump-cut to Big Teru saying random things like "No one has ever built 200 kilos of muscle before". He's clearly giving his general opinion on something - and since it's a video by a sumo stable for sumo fans, the topic is probably related to sumo. In his final year or two as an active rikishi, he struggled with maintaining his physique due to worsening diabetes, and people could see that he was shrunken and deflated looking despite weighing in at much the same size as previous tournaments where he looked a lot better. He knows well that your muscle to fat ratio is important and it's only natural for him to be discussing things in that context.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:25:49 UTC No. 223579

>>223578
If you wanted the context I can give, since I posted that. Teru was talking to Matsui during the training visit to Shodai's stable, Matsui was saying he didn't want to gain any fat, only muscle. Teru said he had to, and he should aim for 200kg. Screenshot was about here in the convo.

https://youtu.be/YfJ4bT4Lsj8?t=162

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:38:53 UTC No. 223582

>>223579
>Matsui was saying he didn't want to gain any fat
How does someone end up anywhere near sumo with this impression? Good thing the Yokozuna was there to set him straight.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:44:27 UTC No. 223583

>>223579
Heavier guys are naturally stronger because that have to carry all that extra weight around every second of their lives. Muscle manlets like the Wake bros and other lower ranked ones can't compete because they're too vain about their physical form.
>b-b-but muh Chiyonofuji, muh wolf an sheeeiiiittt
Rare case of a guy who is able to will himself to train 18 hours a day, he ate as much as Akebono, but burned it all off in training.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:50:16 UTC No. 223584

>>223582
>Lobo con Esteroides

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 21:02:52 UTC No. 223586

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/18f834e0fb6c4d4349792214da643e4ecba604c6

6-story 2.5billion yen new isegahama stable in ryogoku; it should be finished in a year, not bad. Also, Miyagino bought a land as well, before the scandal. That land is in limbo and cannot be used, kek.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 21:12:59 UTC No. 223588

If the sneaky japs at the jsa don’t give hakuho his stable back I’m going to start a petition for trump to nuke the kokugikan

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 22:25:51 UTC No. 223591

>>223586
>Also, Miyagino bought a land as well, before the scandal. That land is in limbo and cannot be used, kek.
This has been in the works for an extremely long time.
https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202109280000097.html

Apparently, it wasn't paid for by Hakuhou, but by a tanimachi, and has been used as a parking lot in the meantime.

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 22:39:08 UTC No. 223593

God so love world that He gave His Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins on a cross then three days later rose Him from the dead,
that we receive the free gift of eternal life. Just look up and ask Him.

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:04:46 UTC No. 223595

>>223593
Jesus Christ would cap out at lower Sandanme if he was lucky

Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:07:34 UTC No. 223596

>>223593

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 00:42:44 UTC No. 223600

>>223595
>>223593
Jesus was a carpenter. More likely that he'd be a yobidashi that builds the dohyo and raises the tsuriyane.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 02:49:39 UTC No. 223604

The "if the minimum is above your current then you lose the difference if you get demoted" provision for mochikyukin is really dumb and annoying to calculate.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 04:21:55 UTC No. 223607

>>223604
>The "if the minimum is above your current then you lose the difference if you get demoted" provision for mochikyukin is really dumb and annoying to calculate.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 10:43:36 UTC No. 223614

>>223604
The best thing about calculating mochikyukin is that you don't have to. Nobody outside the JSA has to give a single solitary shit how much any given wrestler gets paid, you can just not care.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 10:57:08 UTC No. 223615

>>223583
>Heavier guys are naturally stronger because that have to carry all that extra weight around every second of their lives.
If you were to remove all that fat from both guys, they would be stronger, yes. But the thing is, you can't. The fat one has to carry that weight all the time and waste his strength doing so, and he'll still be slower than the leaner guy. In sumo, being difficult to move has a huge advantage so most rikishi are fat, but being difficult to move isn't strength.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 11:51:45 UTC No. 223616

>>223615
There's no such thing as a singular measure of strength. Being heavy isn't the only reason why rikishi are difficult to move, their ability to resist being pushed is a form of strength. Likewise, a man who is excellent at arm wrestling might not be very good at Olympic weightlifting, that doesn't mean the arm wrestler isn't strong, it just means his strength takes a different form.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 12:06:15 UTC No. 223617

>>223616
No one is comparing two athletes from two different sports here though

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 18:01:34 UTC No. 223631

>>223615
Takanoyama was shit tier never even got KK
Gagamaru got JY, kinboshi & sansho prizes
discussion ended

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 19:52:07 UTC No. 223637

>>223617
https://combatpress.com/2024/05/video-nfl-star-micah-parsons-gets-humbled-by-sumo-wrestler/

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 19:55:49 UTC No. 223638

>>223637
>6'3 245lbs
Twink detected

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:01:00 UTC No. 223639

>>223638
Asakoryu...

Speaking of which, the Oompa Loompa is back in Makuuchi for March. I hope he's developed his throwing game because he sorta got chewed out by the fatsos last time.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 21:02:39 UTC No. 223645

Will he survive

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 21:26:40 UTC No. 223647

>>223645
Teru beat Hakuho. Tobi beat Teru. Tobi wore women's underwear. Just put the pieces together yourself man.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:54:28 UTC No. 223650

>>223647
Ouroboros...

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:56:57 UTC No. 223651

>>223650
That fight wasn't actual sumo. Have you even seen it? It was genuinely embarrassing.

Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:59:33 UTC No. 223652

>>223651
Actual sumo hasn't been attempted in 2000 years.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 00:42:13 UTC No. 223662

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 05:45:58 UTC No. 223668

>>223575
>>223563
Punished Zak will make things right he’s the mc after all

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 07:47:11 UTC No. 223672

>>223652
I thought the small panel had Onosato in it for a second.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 14:15:25 UTC No. 223684

>>223652
>whole arc is just the God of Sumo and his rival Kehaya jobbing to the main fighters, and the bootleg Hakuho being portrayed as a sore loser.
what did Itagaki mean by this?

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:05:15 UTC No. 223694

>>223652
I wonder if there's a physical replica of what those old shorts look like instead of just drawings.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:30:02 UTC No. 223696

>>223684
>the bootleg Hakuho being portrayed as a sore loser
I wouldn't take that as an insult, every Baki character is written to be a sore loser at least once.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 21:11:52 UTC No. 223703

>>223652
>Nomi broke a rib of Taima with one kick, and killed him with a kick to the back as well.
You mean like that?

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 22:08:20 UTC No. 223707

>>223703
We should bring back kicking for a few bashos. It'd be fascinating to watch the lads try to develop a new meta.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 22:21:27 UTC No. 223712

>>223707
I think we'd see fewer instances of a kick leading to a win, compared to instances of a kick leading to the guy falling on his ass because the opponent telegraphed it.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Feb 2025 22:54:13 UTC No. 223726

>>223712
Kakuryuu.... ;_;

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 01:23:13 UTC No. 223746

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 01:29:23 UTC No. 223747

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 06:43:13 UTC No. 223755

>>223650
Tobizaru gave Hakuho the strategy to defeat Shodai, the Lord of Chaos.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 11:46:53 UTC No. 223758

>>223746
Tell me your wife doesn't put out without telling me your wife doesn't put out.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 12:39:51 UTC No. 223760

How would Sumo change if it was fought best-of-3 instead of best-of-1 like now?

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 13:14:39 UTC No. 223761

>>223760
Takakeisho would have died from dehydration on day 4.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 13:14:42 UTC No. 223762

>>223760
Everyone would fight half as many days, spread out over alternating days. Makuuchi would have to be split into two divisions otherwise you'd see a ton more clown bashos with lower maegashira yusho simply because there wouldn't be as many opportunities for lower ranked front runners to face higher ranked competition.
Either that or literally everyone dies because you're suddenly forcing 2-3 times the number of total bouts.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 13:56:53 UTC No. 223763

>>223760
Lighter, fitter men with better endurance would have an advantage, and so the average weight would fall.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:01:48 UTC No. 223764

>>223760
>>223761
>>223762
>>223763
Tbh, it wouldn't change that much. They do 20 bouts in a row sonetines as part of pre-basho practice. They could take 3 bouts a day. Each bout usually lasts only a few seconds anyway.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:05:02 UTC No. 223766

>>223764
There's a difference between practice and competition.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:50:34 UTC No. 223769

>>223763
More bouts also means higher chance of injury which also favors lighter builds

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:59:31 UTC No. 223770

>>223769
>>223763
Lighter guys would have a higher risk of injury because it's easier to throw them around.
Meta would focus on generically large guys who just lean on each other and do nothing until one of them gets an advantage, after which the other guy would just give up than risk injury resisting. It'd be rather boring. We'd get an entire top division full of Hokuseihos.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 15:20:00 UTC No. 223773

>>223770
That meta is easily exploitable for any individual fighter, because the man who relies on speed and lateral movement will rack up wins against immobile blubber golems. With smaller men having a higher chance of injury, that's random chance and individuals can't choose to rely on it in the same way.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 15:29:18 UTC No. 223774

>>223770
>Lighter guys would have a higher risk of injury because it's easier to throw them around.
Huh? Then why is there no evidence of this as of now?

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 15:31:36 UTC No. 223775

>>223774

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 15:39:08 UTC No. 223776

>>223774
If you ever wrestle in your life you know that a bigger opponent can easily injure someone lighter

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:13:23 UTC No. 223780

>>223760
>>223762
>you'd see a ton more clown bashos with lower maegashira yusho
Best of 3 would massively reduce sumo's extreme variance in results. I would expect to see almost no non-yokozuna yusho ever.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:14:59 UTC No. 223781

>>223776
you're a larper, not a wrestler

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:21:06 UTC No. 223782

>>223780
Variance in results means nothing when most fixtures are made of wrestlers close in rank. The first week all the joijin beat each other up while lower maegashira fight each other. If the joijin are tight while there's a clear front runner among the lower ranks then it makes it easier for that lower ranker to yusho even if they do middling against the joijin frontrunners in the second week.
To use Takerufuji as an example, he only went 3-2 against joijin. He yusho'd because all the joijin were beating each other up in close matches while Takerufuji was able to feast against other lower maegashira and a juryo visitor for all of week 1. Best of 3 wouldn't change this.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:38:57 UTC No. 223784

>>223782
>he only had a winning record and only won because he won, what a piece of shit

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:39:01 UTC No. 223785

>>223782
>Variance in results means nothing when most fixtures are made of wrestlers close in rank
Reduced variance would mean that an M14 would become more distinctly superior to an M15, and an M13 superior to an M14, and so on. It is not so presently because of the small sample size. You might see a weird clownish shuffle for a year following the change, and then things would be set in stone.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:40:53 UTC No. 223786

and I like how you try to make it sound like it's something that happens every other basho because guys are "feasting" on lower maegashira when in reality Takerufuji was the first to do it in over a fucking century

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:51:47 UTC No. 223788

>>223786
You seem to be mad just because I used Takerufuji as one (1) example of how matchmaking works.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 17:59:00 UTC No. 223789

>>223788
don't attack my boy

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 18:12:09 UTC No. 223790

These are the only rikishi to win a yusho from Maegashira 9 or below. There were no entries for 10, 11, 15, or 16.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 18:32:48 UTC No. 223794

>>223790
Are you arguing that all of them faced the exact same quality of competition over the entire tournament than the joijin frontrunners did? If not then you've completely lost any understanding of what the argument is.
>>223785
If it was best-of-3 while still have everyone fight all 15 days then yeah, there'd be less variance. But the scenario presented was one where they would have to have sekitori alternate days instead in order to account for the higher workload across the entire tournament. So each bout would be best-of-3 but there'd only be 7 or 8 bouts like the lower divisions would have, which would greatly increase variance.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 18:33:52 UTC No. 223795

>>223786
The fact it doesn't happen often is proof that it's a result of the matchmaking system. Generally speaking, a rikishi will be ranked where he ought ot be based on his skill level. Takerufuji is thus particularly lucky to be in a position where he was so clearly underranked.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 18:43:54 UTC No. 223796

>>223794
I wasn't making an argument either way. Initially I was defending Takeru, but with this I was only presenting data, make of it what you will.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 19:41:47 UTC No. 223801

>>223790
>0 in the space of 81 years
>Then 3 in the space of 4
?!

Captcha: MMMM

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 19:56:51 UTC No. 223804

>>223801
Teru was fucking Teru, yokozuna level wrestler coming back from injury. Abi was consistently sanyaku until he had to sit out a tournament for injury. Takerufuji rose really quickly, and aside from a two tournament injury has been consistently strong his entire career to date. Easy to see how any of them were able to take advantage of inferior competition for the first week and a depleted joi for the second. Really the only outlier is Tokushoryu. Guy came out of nowhere to 14-1 Y and then fell off the face of the planet and retired less than 4 years later.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 20:04:03 UTC No. 223805

>>223781
No I teach grappling, and I saw often big guys injury the smallest, and in sumo I think is even more easy for example to injury knees and ankles because they are super heavyweight,

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 20:05:31 UTC No. 223806

Did Akebono have knee problems? He's the heaviest rikishi in history iirc.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 20:33:30 UTC No. 223808

>>223804
>Tokushoryu
Hakuho and Kakuryu were both kyujo for that basho

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 20:50:53 UTC No. 223810

>>223806
He's not even the heaviest ever, that goes to Ōrora Satoshi, but the heaviest to hit the Makuuchi division would go to Konishiki.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:09:33 UTC No. 223811

>>223810
>the heaviest to hit the Makuuchi division would go to Konishiki.
So crazy. Back in Konishiki's day a guy like Konishiki wouldn't have even made it out of Juryo.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:13:00 UTC No. 223812

>>223806
His knees degraded over time from the shiko until they exploded in 1994. Konishiki, being an asshole, told him to fight through it and the wins would heal him, and after it became clear that that wouldn't work, he got surgery followed by months of rehab.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:18:34 UTC No. 223813

>>223812
Crazy he managed to last another six years after that.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:26:21 UTC No. 223816

>>223790
what about m18, there should be one of those on the next banzuke

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:30:02 UTC No. 223817

Aonishiki & Tochnoshin

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:32:41 UTC No. 223818

>>223805
you don't teach anything, you're a larper and you suck at it, everyone knows you're lying.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:52:56 UTC No. 223820

>>223817
Obviously edited. Aonishiki isn't that tall.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:07:39 UTC No. 223821

>>223817
Isn't that Gagamaru?

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:14:31 UTC No. 223822

Anyone here knows how to get the number of kyujo occurrences per fighter off of sumodb? I've seen a paper cite it as source for such data but I haven't found a way to query it.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:15:22 UTC No. 223823

>>223821
No, it's Aonishiki. Who's Gagamaru?

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:36:02 UTC No. 223825

>>223822
The rikishi lists have the total stats for each wrestler. For specific periods of time, you'll have to do a custom query and add all the results up yourself. Fortunately, the format of the site makes it really easy to copy and paste into Excel. Just don't group the results by rikishi on the site, and sum everything in Excel or another program instead.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 23:40:12 UTC No. 223832

>>223812
I think Konoshiki was just a true believer in the whole sumo toughguy ideology.

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 23:41:52 UTC No. 223833

>>223817
aonishiki (forma de alcohol)

Anonymous at Sat, 15 Feb 2025 23:43:42 UTC No. 223834

>>223816
none for 18

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 01:01:49 UTC No. 223841

>>223832
Konishiki was already crippled by that point. This was after he'd lost ozeki and was about to go 5-10 at M5e. He knew what he was saying.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 03:12:37 UTC No. 223851

>>223821
You're thinking of Lady Gaga.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 04:56:11 UTC No. 223854

>I heard you had a monkey problem you need taken care of.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 11:45:27 UTC No. 223870

How much does it cost to send a kid to somewhere like saitama sakae for 3 years of high school

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 12:37:15 UTC No. 223871

>>223870
If you have to ask...

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:43:44 UTC No. 223879

>>223854
Almost surprised he doesn't need the knee braces just for day to day walking around.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:10:40 UTC No. 223886

>>223879
I don't think we'll ever know how close we were to the Day of the Knee. He might not have the big braces on but I bet he still wears the sleeves and takes painkillers. Hopefully he sheds the weight fast and gets down below 300lbs.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:16:34 UTC No. 223887

>>223879
Pants are baggy enough he could be wearing braces.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:06:43 UTC No. 223895

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:11:20 UTC No. 223897

I hope his haru basho effort won't be so lame as his shake with oats which didn't mix well at all lol

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:14:57 UTC No. 223898

>>223897
mine do that too, it's fucking impossible to get that shitty protein powder to fully mix
I could sit here for 10 minutes and shake my shit and it'll still have pockets of unmixed powder

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:21:17 UTC No. 223899

I lol'd

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:21:55 UTC No. 223900

>>223898
how about shaking the powder+milk first, then pour it onto oats + add anything else and mix.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:27:55 UTC No. 223901

>>223900
I only use milk and protein powder
sometimes I don't even bother to try mixing it really, I'll just chew up the chunks, it's kind of good

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:28:21 UTC No. 223906

>>223897
Please understand, he's limiting himself so his true power doesn't get found out by his rivals in the makushita meat grinder. It didn't mix properly because he hasn't had any practice mixing, usually he just eats it by the handful.

Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:24:12 UTC No. 223922

>>223900
I think the main issue is not going liquid first, to keep the powder out of the corner areas

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 00:53:50 UTC No. 223923

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 03:58:31 UTC No. 223929

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 05:59:21 UTC No. 223934

I thought practice mawashi were supposed to be cheap. Like $8 or something.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 06:21:54 UTC No. 223935

>>223934
Aren't the sekitori ones $20k a pop? $100 for the practice ones still seems super cheap to me considering.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:35:44 UTC No. 223953

>>223935
Yes, but those are traditionally woven silk. The one he's referring to is just cotton.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 13:34:07 UTC No. 223954

>>223953
If you think of how much an ordinary cotton garment costs, a mawashi is actually really cheap. It's several metres long and quite wide, so it can't be churned out as easily as simple and small designs like t-shirts, and the market for them is incredibly niche since only sumo wrestlers (professional and amateur) wear them so it can't be a large industry that saves money with the economy of scale.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:25:04 UTC No. 223960

>>223954
It's a niche market but also captive. And textiles are easy to produce.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:16:37 UTC No. 223964

>>223960
Captive markets are usually the most expensive. You should see how much traditional craftsmen charge for other Japanese cultural items.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:25:47 UTC No. 223966

>>223934
>>223935
USA Sumo has them at $110 for the standard white ones, and $170 for the thicker black ones, plus shipping, and they import them from Japan.
They need to be durable enough that you can train in them every day for years, they're not cheap fabric.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:24:55 UTC No. 223977

>>223966
Now that is wildly overpriced.
I'm sure you could buy a bolt of whatever fabric and get the sides hemmed for a fraction of that brice

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:26:36 UTC No. 223978

>>223977
Would it be as durable as training mawashi though?

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:32:18 UTC No. 223979

>>223978
Maybe. I've never seen a mawashi up close. Is there anything else different about the fabric or construction?

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:34:46 UTC No. 223982

>Watching Chris Sumo's video explaining shikona
>Hiradoumi is from Hirado city, which is near the sea (umi)

Well, okay I guess.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 21:07:29 UTC No. 223985

>>223934
10400 yen is about $8

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 21:09:34 UTC No. 223986

>>223982
based Chris

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:33:52 UTC No. 223990

>>223985
xD

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:14:42 UTC No. 223996

>>223982
That's how an enormous number of shikona work. If it isn't a location, it's a reference to something meaningful to them (Churanoumi) or emblematic of them (Soukokurai).

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:34:16 UTC No. 223998

>>223982
>Chris Sumo
>His real first name is Chris. The second part of his Youtube shikona refers to his interest in sumo wrestling.

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:40:15 UTC No. 224000

>>223998
Eikokunokichigai

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:55:09 UTC No. 224001

>>223996
Or Yamato (the Battlecruiser upgrade in Starcraft).

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 00:15:09 UTC No. 224002

>>224000
Hakokurai (破国来)

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 00:59:28 UTC No. 224004

The next yusho winners:

>Makuuchi
Onosato, in a playoff with Hoshoryu
>Juryo
Nabatame
>Makushita
MIta, in a playoff with Yamato

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:02:37 UTC No. 224013

>>224004
Aonishiki has the inside lane at Osaka.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 09:32:38 UTC No. 224020

>>223954
>>223966
Yes, but I've seen the 800 yen number several times over the years.
https://tachiai.org/2020/08/29/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-mawashi/#:~:text=Someone%20coming%20in%20a%20minivan%20to%20grab%20a%20piece%20of%20dirty%2C%20smelly%2C%20two%2Dyears%2Din%2Duse%20coarse%20cotton%20which%20costs%20%C2%A5800%20new.%20That%E2%80%99s%20%247.50.%20Why%3F

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:58:26 UTC No. 224024

>answer the call

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:06:19 UTC No. 224026

>>223790
You can just do m9-m99 or whatever instead of running it individually

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:23:56 UTC No. 224028

>>223804
>face of the planet and retired less than 4 years later.
tokushoryu was floating between makuuchi and juryo since 2011. he really had the devils luck that tournament. only other meagashitters and were doing well enough to fight him in the later half of the tournament and they only had takakeisho in position to fight from sanyaku on the last couple days. he won it at 34, retiring at 37 isn't bad with 12 years as a salaried wrestler

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:31:59 UTC No. 224030

>>223886
>don't think we'll ever know how close we were to the Day of
its basically impossible to shoah your knee with those football donjoy braces on unless you take a a konishiki directly to the joint. your more likely to break your leg like a guy on my team in college had happen getting landed on by a dlineman
doesn't do shit for the arthritis

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:47:52 UTC No. 224052

Place your bets on the next Ozeki.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:14:05 UTC No. 224063

>>224052
It has to be Kirishima right? I'd choose Daieisho, but he's a bit too unpredictable for me to be sure.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:38:52 UTC No. 224068

New ep of Dosukoi Sumo Slop co-starring Kisenoslopo has been translated

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:45:21 UTC No. 224070

>>224052
Oho.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:25:29 UTC No. 224084

>>224068
>THE DOUGH YO

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:27:37 UTC No. 224087

Less than three weeks now, boys. Hang in there.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:33:08 UTC No. 224091

1st post-promotion tatsunamislop has arrived https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMu5be7sVgA

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:56:24 UTC No. 224092

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:59:53 UTC No. 224093

we should sponsor a keshomawashi

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:25:20 UTC No. 224095

>>224063
Funny how both of them are on the start of an Ozeki run out of nowhere right now. Nobody expected an 11-4 from Daieisho and Kiri magically ended up back in Sekiwake.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:05:26 UTC No. 224105

>>224091
I didn't like to watch sumo food videos until this channel
gonna be rooting for the tatsunami bois in the next basho

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:06:36 UTC No. 224106

>>224105
Who's your sumoshi?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:17:43 UTC No. 224107

>>224106
I have many favorites but if I have to pick one I'm gonna say Hosh

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:49:21 UTC No. 224110

Onosato bros what’s going on at nishonoseki stable. Sake bottles up the asshole isn’t a good look.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:47:01 UTC No. 224115

>>224110
More like HOMOsato roflmao

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:59:27 UTC No. 224116

>>224110
Castle Nishonoseki has become a gay torture dungeon

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 14:06:29 UTC No. 224117

>>224110
lolololololo, I guess they watched too many episodes of gakinotsukai

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 14:19:29 UTC No. 224119

>>224116
Kisenosato never smiled while he was active. Now as an oyakata, he has absolute power over several young men, and he's grinning ear to ear in every photo. Coincidence? I think not.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:45:01 UTC No. 224123

>>224110

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:52:19 UTC No. 224124

>>224115
>>224116
>>224117
>>224119
>>224123
>Takaseido sits on the floor and spreads his legs, exposing his anus. Kirinryu holds his legs down to keep him in that position. Tomokaze then shouts "Set!" and shoves the bottle into Takaseido's anus. A few seconds later, as soon as Tomokaze pulls out the bottle, Takaseido writhes around, crying out "Ouch! Ouch!", perhaps due to the effects of the alcohol. The wrestlers are laughing their heads off at the sight. Tomokaze then makes Takaseido put the bottle of sake in his mouth and pours the sake into it. Takaseido stood up, smiling broadly and making a "good sign" with both hands for some reason.
Supposedly there is video of the sake bottle buttplug incident as well

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:54:14 UTC No. 224125

>>224110
It's just lads being lads having a laff, nothing wrong here

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:23:24 UTC No. 224127

>>224124
>The Nishonoseki-beya drinking challenge
>buttchug a bottle of alcohol every time there is a drinking scandal at Nishonoseki-beya
>buttchug another if Onosato caused it

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:28:51 UTC No. 224129

If only hokuseiho had shoved sake bottles into his juniors asses and made them buy tampons instead of gluing their wallets shut he still would wrestling.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:29:01 UTC No. 224130

So 224124 is about a drinking game for this Nishonoseki-beya? So this guy was the one that started it or something?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:37:45 UTC No. 224131

I'm not taking any of this seriously

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:46:04 UTC No. 224133

>>224131
We know Hakkaku-oyakata

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:57:21 UTC No. 224135

>>224129
Dumb gaijin should have used traditional Japanese glue.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:54:43 UTC No. 224141

>>224110
>>224124
QRD? Out of the loop on this one.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:01:34 UTC No. 224142

>>224141
Buttchugging under ex-Kisenosato's watch. Indications of serious and long-running alcohol issues at the stable. Hazing and hi-jinks, probably not illegal but terrible publicity. Expect Onosato and his heya-mates to perform poorly in the upcoming basho.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:21:49 UTC No. 224146

>>224142
When was this particular ass incident?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:28:07 UTC No. 224147

>>224146
It seems like 2022. The punishment for hakuho was that he hid bad things that were happening in his stable. Kisenosato has hide the butt chug incident for 3 years. JSA better lay some serious punishments down for this hidden power harrassment.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:34:13 UTC No. 224150

>>224147
Kisenosato will be ordered to say he's sorry, and his stable's booze budget will be reduced by 10% for six months. It's harsh, but fair.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:41:01 UTC No. 224152

>>224147
>The punishment for hakuho was that he hid bad things that were happening in his stable.
And the fact that he wasn't even living in his stable. Kisenosato can just say "yeah they were goofing around but I was there to make sure it wasn't anything serious and I apologize for the embarrassment caused by the video going public." With Hakuho it was "he's not even living there so obviously his house devolved into anarchy."

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:48:51 UTC No. 224153

>>224147
Hakuho got punished for not living at his stable. A bunch of guys drinking is basically a non issue.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:52:18 UTC No. 224154

>>224130
Onosato wasn't at the heya yet in 2022, so he isn't to blame for anything in the new article.
Daily Shinchou, the tabloid which is bringing this up, didn't name any of the people in the room for these videos except those actively involved. Pic is what the heya's membership was at the time.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:54:59 UTC No. 224155

>>224142
>Hazing
From the sounds of it the guy was into having it shoved up his ass. Just lucky he didn't turn into the one guy one jar rikishi.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:06:28 UTC No. 224156

>>224091
horseshitryu working on his own rope instead of letting the low rankers do it for him?
404 hinkaku not found

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:11:12 UTC No. 224157

>>224124
Harumafuji wondering if he should have gotten his money's worth.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:16:52 UTC No. 224160

>>224152
>Kisenosato can just say "yeah they were goofing around but I was there to make sure it wasn't anything serious and I apologize for the embarrassment caused by the video going public."
Abi got everyone permanently banned from social media for making a video of him taping up Wakamotoharu. It should not blow over that easily for Kisenosato, even if it ultimately does.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 21:06:25 UTC No. 224164

Is he really your homie if he won't shove a bottle up your ass?

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 21:07:11 UTC No. 224165

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 21:11:43 UTC No. 224166

>>224165
A+++ foreshadowing, well done lad

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:13:47 UTC No. 224173

>>224160
Wouldn't surprise me if they blame Tomokaze and in turn blame Nakamura Oyakata since Tomokaze is a Nakamura loyalist and went with him after the split.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:38:42 UTC No. 224174

Rikishi be normal for one day challenge: Impossible

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 23:05:15 UTC No. 224176

>>224174
It happened 3 years ago and no one complained about it. The guy getting the bottle up the ass was a drunk dumbass the same as the others. Move along, citizen.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 00:06:20 UTC No. 224180

>>224176
>no one complained about it
You not having heard a complaint is not the same thing as a complaint never being made.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 00:07:22 UTC No. 224181

How do you think Nabatame trains his right arm hahaha

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 00:10:30 UTC No. 224182

>Watching old sumo content
>Tochinoshin's first basho after losing Ozeki, he needs 10 wins to re-earn Ozeki
>This shit

https://youtu.be/f_Ll-zlT0sE?si=eRVIj7KC_b-_L754&t=744

HOW DID ABI EVER KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THAT FLOWCHART BULLSHIT

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 01:12:33 UTC No. 224185

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 01:44:19 UTC No. 224187

>>224185
CRAM ONE UP MY SHITHOLE, SENPAI

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 02:10:39 UTC No. 224188

We've gotten two scandals and the banzuke hasn't even been released yet.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 04:53:18 UTC No. 224191

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 05:57:18 UTC No. 224194

Now I know the real reason why Shirokuma had to use wheelchair

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 10:59:39 UTC No. 224200

>>224110
Ig we know why sumo’s train flexibility

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:07:46 UTC No. 224206

>>224188
Is this a scandal tho? It's just an old video of dumb drunk dudes doing dumb drunk shit. Obviously not a video Kisenosato would want to surface but it's not like there was a victim considering the guy was into having the bottle shoved up his ass.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 15:19:25 UTC No. 224211

>>224206
Any consent given is to be questioned given the bottle pushers outrank the sake reciever. Otherwise I would agree.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:01:06 UTC No. 224212

new tatsunami video
let's pore over it and find new examples of Hosh lacking hinkaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYjG1MuQMjk

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:48:01 UTC No. 224214

>>224212
Tatsunamibeya have given their official ruling on romanization. The age of Hepburn is over, now is the time of Nihon-shiki.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:25:42 UTC No. 224217

>>224214
Why Syunrai and not Hosyoryu?

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:30:21 UTC No. 224220

>>224217
Because the real answer is that they did not even think or care about which is more correct and just slopped some subtitles in there for the gaijins

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:42:27 UTC No. 224221

>>224220
>The kanji are on screen, what more do the gaijin want from us???

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:46:40 UTC No. 224222

>>224212
God I love Tatsusloppa.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 19:37:18 UTC No. 224224

>>224214
It actually was Shunrai in one of the videos
maybe it's like that because of their instagram account? dunno

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 20:33:23 UTC No. 224227

>that guy who watches sumo food and other beya videos as "bulking" motivation
what exactly is wrong with that guy

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 20:44:59 UTC No. 224228

>>224227
It's the opposite for me. The fatness and gluttony is vicarious and helps me cut.

Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 21:08:07 UTC No. 224230

>>224212
sumoslop crossover ep with guest stars roga & nabatame

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 00:29:46 UTC No. 224236

New sekitori photos for the JSA website were recently released.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 00:31:27 UTC No. 224237

>>224236
Please tell me Onosato has a photo where he doesn't look like a serial killer.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 00:33:56 UTC No. 224238

>>224237

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 00:51:43 UTC No. 224239

>>224238
Pretty good.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 01:33:38 UTC No. 224241

>>224239
nah, looks too chinky

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 01:49:06 UTC No. 224242

>>224238
I don't love it

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 01:58:09 UTC No. 224243

Trannytame looking good

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 01:59:36 UTC No. 224244

>>224243
>that mustache
lol you'd think they'd shave for picture day

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 03:51:00 UTC No. 224247

>we don't drink at tatsunami stable.....

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 03:58:08 UTC No. 224250

Rikishi are expected to drink, it's manly
And extra manly to drink large amounts

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 04:34:34 UTC No. 224252

>>224250
its also a great way to put on weight

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 05:19:58 UTC No. 224253

>>224244
Wakamotoharu clearly missed the memo if that was the case.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 06:49:21 UTC No. 224254

>>new bottle opener at nishinoseki
15yo, wtf

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 11:01:07 UTC No. 224258

>>224254
They only recruit lads who won't get asked for ID on the beer runs.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 14:47:59 UTC No. 224265

>>224253
They let him get away with it because he has the best shinpan bows during the entrance ceremony.

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 14:49:58 UTC No. 224266

it's over

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 16:33:27 UTC No. 224276

You "scandal" fags are gay.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 16:47:52 UTC No. 224277

You gay fags are scandalous

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 16:49:28 UTC No. 224278

>>224276
Almost as gay as doing ass-to-mouth in front of all your friends.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 17:05:04 UTC No. 224279

>>224278
Buttchugs are a party classic. Everyone was doing it after Jackass did it.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 17:09:24 UTC No. 224281

>>224279
>The anal-obsessives on TV did it, so it isn't gay!
>I used to do it with my friends, nothing gay there!
It's incredibly gay. If you have ever done a "buttchug" you are, at the very least, gayer than an ordinary man.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 17:24:35 UTC No. 224283

>>224279
doesn't matter, it's still gay...and jackass was full of degenerates anyway

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 17:24:39 UTC No. 224284

>>224281
So is your entire issue here that it verges on homosexuality and nothing else?
>you went near a butt! That's GAY! you're GAY! Butts are GAY!
OK. I'm not gay. They aren't gay.
Like what exactly is your point here? What do you think you're accomplishing? Calling straight people gay doesn't make them gay because you're deathly afraid of butts.

Do you flagellate yourself after taking a shit? That's almost as gay as touching your penis to take a piss.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 17:30:08 UTC No. 224285

>>224284
I think that enthusiastically inserting a phallic object into another man's rectum is very gay. I think it's very telling that you're getting so defensive, and likening this bizarre, disgusting, and fully intentional pastime to "going near a butt".

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 17:34:02 UTC No. 224286

>>224285
You're a moron and your pathetic overcompensating is what's telling, you dumb faggot. Just another self-hating fag in the closet trying to convince everyone else how much he hates men lol. You think you're pulling it off, fruitcake?

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 17:37:36 UTC No. 224287

>>224286
My dude, you're defending literal anal play between two (or more, if the story is to be believed) grown men. There is no way you can spin this as being a normal, heterosexual thing to do.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:27:01 UTC No. 224294

>>224287
Yes, I am, because it's not a sexual act. That's the problem with shit today, people always sexualize every little thing. You can be friends with a man and not want to have sex with him, anon. Rikishi are a lot closer than most people. They live together, they train together, all day, every day. Having sex with eachother does not even enter into the equation, anon, and that's where you're missing it. These are utterly platonic relationships and YOU are inserting things that are not there.

I can absolutely spin this as being a normal, heterosexual thing to do because while it is gross, and I would never do it, it's just drunk guys doing dumb drunk shit and that's all it is. It being a bottle in an ass is tertiary, basically, beside the point. You're saying it's about the butt and about the bottle being shaped like a penis (weird observation but ok) and I'm saying it's about the drinking and NON-sexual shenanigans with friends.

ANYWAY
let's go back to talking about sumo

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 20:12:47 UTC No. 224297

>>224294
The mental gymnastics on display here are incredible. "The bottle in the ass is beside the point" - no, the bottle in the ass is the focal point of the entire scandal. You don't see it as having anything to do with sexual matters, but your opinion is not authoritative, most people consider anal insertion to be at least tangentially sexual, especially in a regimented, all-male environment. It is a matter of fact that sexual assault and abuse is far from uncommon in this sort of scenario - boarding schools in England, frat houses in America, and so on, and it's naive to think that the same kind of dynamics don't exist in the world of sumo. It's a closed world and you see very little of the goings-on behind stable doors, which is why it makes the news when something like this is revealed. And finally, the scandal is one of power harassment - you have a much older, higher-ranked rikishi engaging in disgusting and undignified activities with men who aren't really in a position to say no to him. These aren't friends or brothers or equals, these are juniors and senors, and it's impossible to determine what is due to willingness (drunken inability to consent aside) and what is due to coercion. This is not "shenanigans" it's a deeply disturbing incident that ought to cost several men their jobs.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 20:22:37 UTC No. 224298

>>224294
>>224297
will you two get a fucking room already, I'm trying to do shiko over here.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 20:22:52 UTC No. 224299

>>224297
>The mental gymnastics on display here are incredible:

Ftfy

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:04:07 UTC No. 224303

>>224276
>Scandalfags are gay
>Getting your homies to shove a bottle up your ass isn't
Huh?

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:04:46 UTC No. 224306

Its nice to see that our esteemed correspondent Chris-sensei is too classy to do a video about this one

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:06:14 UTC No. 224307

>>224306
He will and he'll use our in depth analysis when he does

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:06:47 UTC No. 224308

>>224306
He'll complain that they didn't use any lube.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:28:30 UTC No. 224314

>>224306
He's waiting for his inside source (an ex-yobidashi's second cousin) to tell him what the higher-ups in the JSA are REALLY saying.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:32:26 UTC No. 224315

>>224314
Chris will read the minds of Nishonoseki wrestlers with his telepathic abilities and then do a video about it

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:35:23 UTC No. 224316

>>224315
>I have it from inside sources that the only reason Onosato allowed himself to be scouted for Nishonoseki was because he himself has a fetish for having things shoved up his ass

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:49:09 UTC No. 224318

>>224316
That look in his eyes was because of the bottle of sake all along.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:50:24 UTC No. 224319

>>224318
They just never took it out.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:07:21 UTC No. 224322

>>224319
>Yokozuna by 2026 or another one goes in!

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 01:25:48 UTC No. 224331

>>224294
>because it's not a sexual act
Was there a sumo move?

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 01:30:37 UTC No. 224332

i may be 30 years old but i WILL become sekitori and bring back sumo sideburns

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 01:30:57 UTC No. 224333

>>224331
It's kinjite because a sake bottle is considered a weapon.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 01:44:32 UTC No. 224334

>>224332
Most based post in days.
Godspeed sideburns anon.
Gyoji should be forced to grow a beard as well.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 02:03:47 UTC No. 224335

>>224254
Looks older than half of makuuchi

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 02:35:29 UTC No. 224338

>>224332
>>224334
>sideburns
fuck that, no half measures - bring back the full bearded rikishi

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 02:50:07 UTC No. 224339

>>224338

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 03:02:20 UTC No. 224340

>>224338

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 04:14:22 UTC No. 224344

New Plime Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28rbknJEl_s

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 06:52:38 UTC No. 224351

>>224344
It's kinda shit considering it didn't even go over his yokozuna run

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 09:03:35 UTC No. 224355

We haven't heard that much from Kotozakura. Yusho inbound!

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:19:42 UTC No. 224363

>>224344
3/4 of his rikishi videos are just re-watching a yusho.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:30:41 UTC No. 224364

>>224303
I was referring to scandals in general.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:36:11 UTC No. 224365

>>224338
>>224340
Any facial hair really.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 16:58:13 UTC No. 224370

>>224351
The prime time videos are always shit. It's just a shit series that they totally phone in because they don't take us seriously as fans.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:15:14 UTC No. 224372

>>224370
I wonder how much of that is a communication problem. Have the copyright agents who are taking down the NHK streams with thousands of viewers never explained the scope of the problem to the NSK? Maybe they think the stream viewers are Japanese people trying to avoid paying for cable?
Nobody ever leaves money on the table like this.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:29:59 UTC No. 224373

>>224372
I've wondered about this too. I know sumo is niche but yeah if you combined all the streams there are tens of thousands of viewers that the JSA is just letting swing in the wind rather than bring into the fold. Maybe there's some nationalist edge gatekeeping behind that, I don't know. Maybe they just don't see the economic sense in it. I mean, it's true that currently foreign fans like us contribute essentially nothing to sumo, in the monetary sense. Not to say none of us have spent money there, but generally, we don't bring any spending to the table. That's partly our fault but mostly their fault, because we have essentially no legitimate options for this. Either way, it looks like we're worthless and that might be influencing them as well.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:38:23 UTC No. 224374

>>224373
If you don't give someone the option to give you money for a service it's not their fault when they don't give you money.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:45:52 UTC No. 224375

>>224374
Preaching to the choir.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:53:23 UTC No. 224376

>>224344
>>224351
>>224370
Just compare to the quality of something a fan made- for free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhkKAOt-OvE

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:55:18 UTC No. 224377

>>224373
Tens of thousands of viewers who watch for free doesn't necessarily mean tens of thousands (or even thousands) of viewers who will pay for content. How many paying viewers would it take to make it worth doing? How many non-paying viewers can be supported by the paying ones? How much would an official Gaijin Stream undermine already-existing domestic and foreign methods of watching sumo, and would there be enough paying viewers to balance it out?

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:00:11 UTC No. 224378

>Hire Natto
>Give him the resources to actually make his site professional in looks and functionality
>Let people watch old bashos for free
>$10 one-time charge to watch the entire current basho
Something. ANYTHING. Since his basho days are clipped and timestamped he could actually add cool features like being able to watch a random rikishi's entire 15 days without the need to make a video specifically for it since your browser could just jump between timestamps on videos.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:00:11 UTC No. 224379

>>224373
>>224377
If NHK World had live coverage every day instead of just 1, 8, 14, and 15 then there would be literally no problem. I can't imagine re-running the same late-night cooking and sightseeing programs is so important to them.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:01:00 UTC No. 224380

>>224377
>undermine already-existing domestic and foreign methods of watching sumo

You mean paying for a vpn and then illegally paying for Abema? Or donating money so a pirate streamer can buy dragon dildos?

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:04:35 UTC No. 224381

>>224181
It's been revealed as pure natural coomer talent

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:09:23 UTC No. 224382

>>224378
>hire a waito piggu that has been stealing from us for years
If you even suggested that to the JSA they'd crucify you.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:10:20 UTC No. 224383

>>224378
They don't need to hire anyone, just make the existing content more readily available.
NHK World already does daily highlight videos themselves. You don't need to hire Natto for that. But unless you actually have NHK World and watch when those highlights are aired then you'll miss them completely because they're not uploaded online. NHK World only puts shitty 5 minute tournament recaps on their website, for no reason.
Likewise, NHK World already broadcasts the tournament live, but only for 4 days out of 15, and again with no way to go back and rewatch them. Why not all 15 days? Why no archive? Mindboggling. Put them on YouTube, do up a Roku archive channel, something.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 19:25:37 UTC No. 224384

>>224355
He is focusing preparing and praying to the Kami he’s gonna fix the blunder his money hungry countrymen made. The black belt he wears requires a steady mind and dedication.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 20:30:28 UTC No. 224387

Cosby and Leno prepare to do the deed to a jonidan underling, February 8 1993.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 20:31:31 UTC No. 224388

>>224387
>beard
>weird mawashi
>no mage

What is up with this dude

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 20:37:27 UTC No. 224390

>>224388
I assume it was just a Japanese guy they had access to, and not an actual rikishi.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 21:23:47 UTC No. 224391

7 of the 10 rikishi to not get promoted to yokozuna after a 2-basho performance resembling Hoshoryu's would eventually became yokozuna anyway. The exceptions are Chiyotaikai, Kaio, and Takakeisho. Of those 3, Chiyotaikai is the only one to not post a losing record in the subsequent basho - the one which would be their yokozuna debut.

In this way, long-term health/fragility seems to be something which the NSK takes as a major weight when considering yokozuna promotion. Kaio and Takakeisho were both notably fragile, and Chiyotaikai had taken 2 multi-basho kyujo in the 2 years prior to this 'tsunatori' here, if we can call it that. Kaio and Takakeisho are often touted as two of the strongest ozeki ever, and this is probably why.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 21:29:39 UTC No. 224392

>>224391
Note that unlike the rest of them, Hosh's jun was a 13-2. Regardless of how weak his yusho was, the 13-2 was enough for them to call it a yusho-equivalent, which none of those others got. This made his January yusho enough regardless of how many wins he got.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 22:04:28 UTC No. 224394

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 22:13:54 UTC No. 224395

>>224394
In England, only the version with the fingertips toward the viewer counts as a peace sign. The one with the fingernails towards the viewer means "Fuck off". Other countries don't seem to observe this distinction, which is fair enough. However, in a few short months Hoshoryu will be travelling to England for a sumo exhibition, with himself as the focal point due to his rank. Wouldn't it be a tragedy if his hinkaku was irrevocably shattered on an international stage by telling respected foreign journalists (and by extension, everyone who sees the photographs) to fuck off? One could argue that the hinkaku of the entire JSA would be in tatters. I wonder if anyone will warn him.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 22:18:59 UTC No. 224396

>>224395
Judging from his Tupac shirt, Hosh likely enjoys American hip-hop culture and this is where he gets it from, where there is indeed no distinction between hand facing.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 22:20:31 UTC No. 224397

although it would be funny if he knew it and was doing it intentionally

I would like him more if that was the case lol

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 23:36:35 UTC No. 224399

>>224396
could be but not necessarily. there are plenty of cases where the japs use the peace sign within their own pop culture.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 00:11:19 UTC No. 224401

>which way, mongolian man

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 00:13:41 UTC No. 224402

>>224351
>>224370
Chris seethe

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 00:15:43 UTC No. 224403

>>224402
I hate Chris though. The story telling the video is just shit. Okay, he wins his first tournament back in the top division. Then it suddenly cuts to his intai announcement. Retarded.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 00:16:17 UTC No. 224404

>>224383
>But unless you actually have NHK World
It's one of those free channels you get with an antenna.

>NHK World only puts shitty 5 minute tournament recaps on their website, for no reason.
??? They do post the full daily highlights online.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 00:18:11 UTC No. 224405

>>224404
>full
They post makuuchi only, cut to ribbons with as little extra footage as possible
and you're lucky if they post it within two days

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 00:18:38 UTC No. 224406

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 00:24:57 UTC No. 224407

>>224406
What is happening in that photo? Why is Nishonoseki like this?

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 00:47:24 UTC No. 224408

>>224407
Most of the text visible in that image looks to be exactly the same as the online article, except for the top right paragraph. Hopefully there are more new details than that, but we'll have to wait for someone to post photos of the rest to know.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 02:39:10 UTC No. 224414

The only new detail I want is to find out that the idiot filming got kicked out.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 02:59:43 UTC No. 224417

>>224414
Sorry, his filming that was ruled to be yusho equivalent and he was promoted to Yokozuna instead.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 06:45:15 UTC No. 224421

>>224383
Bro... the highlights are aired four times online, then posted for viewing at will with a one-day delay. They also post them to the NHK World Youtube channel permanently now IIRC.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 07:07:21 UTC No. 224423

> 相撲協会に問うと、
>「当事者に聞き取った所、当事者全員がふざけてやったことであり、本人自身(編集部註・貴正道)もいじめられたとは、全く思っていなかったと確認しました。しかしながら、ふざけてやったとしても度を越しており、師匠二所ノ関に注意いたしました」

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 07:32:44 UTC No. 224424

>>224406
>Trash tier 'zuna
>Trash tier 'kata

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 09:17:01 UTC No. 224425

>>224406

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 12:01:31 UTC No. 224427

>>224421
Piracy is a service issue. Nobody is going to pay the JSA unless the JSA can provide a better quality product than Natto can.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 12:52:41 UTC No. 224429

>>224427
>Nobody is gonna pay
>pay
All the NHK World options are free.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 13:47:38 UTC No. 224430

>>224429
I know that. I'm talking about the people who think NHK World offerings aren't good enough, and keep asking for a full stream (or an edited Natto-style digest) directly from the JSA. Anon up there cited tens of thousands of viewers for the bootleg Twitch streams as if that was an argument that it would be profitable for the JSA to do so.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 16:50:04 UTC No. 224442

new Chrisslop is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnIP9ohoiHE

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 17:04:22 UTC No. 224444

>>224423
I'd be interested to see if the fact that a video exists changes their tune at all. This is them declaring that the actual bottle service itself wasn't a problem - it's hard to think they won't have anything to say about the video.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 17:09:50 UTC No. 224446

>>224430
>the highlights are aired four times online, then posted for viewing at will with a one-day delay
>Anon up there cited tens of thousands of viewers for the bootleg Twitch streams as if that was an argument that it would be profitable for the JSA to do so.
Nobody willingly watches archived sports. It's either live or there's a service problem. If they charged me $15 a year for access to the raw feed from the truck, I would probably pay it.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 17:10:34 UTC No. 224447

>>224423
I told you guys it was a nothingburger

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 19:06:54 UTC No. 224452

I wish I had low ranker houseslaves to do chores and make me food

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 19:30:15 UTC No. 224454

>>224447
Nishonoseki is Japanese, of course it's a nothingburger. A Mongol would have been deported.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 19:39:00 UTC No. 224456

>>224452
Some anons can dress up in maid costumes for you.

Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:07:52 UTC No. 224457